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Let's Start A Cult

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Let's Start A Cult: Trailer

"My fellow citizens Earth is in the middle of a crisis. plunging deeper into chaos know I feel your pain and your loss we can't stand idly by and let this happen we must rise up and how long Sorry, damn it. Well, this is awkward. Hi, my name is Josh L. And I'm the host of the let's start a cult podcast for each episode myself in some guys take a look at different Cults from around the world for educational purposes only and definitely not to start our own call join me. Every other week is we break down dangerous religious cults political extremist groups and every other kind of cult in between. Should I apologize for the terrible southern accent? No, let's start a cult podcast starting in October 2020.

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Introducing: Crime and Compulsion | The Murder of Junko Furuta

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52:22 min | Last month

Introducing: Crime and Compulsion | The Murder of Junko Furuta

"My fellow citizens. Earth is in the middle of a crisis plunging. Deeper into kale's no after you'll pain angela loss. We can't stand by and let this happen. We must rise up in. Sorry damn it well. This is awkward. Hi my name is josh l. and i'm the host of the. Let's start a cult. Podcast where each episode myself and some guests take a look at different cults from around the world for educational purposes only and definitely not to start our own cult. Join me every other week. We breakdown dangerous religious cults liberal extremist groups and every other kind of cult in. Between should i apologize for the terrible southern accent. Subscribe and listen to. Let's story colt anywhere. You listen to podcasts. Gas this has been. And i'm karen or back after our two week hiatus you enjoy Dude who who do so fucking where you love it. I had to redo our song. It's been two weeks since we've done an episode. Forgot what her sounds like. I like our song. I had to redo song radars on. Ooh sorry gazza. I know it's been two weeks since we've done. An episode shits gotten busy over here with job with work and john worth symphony job at work and school and kids. So i am sorry that it's been two weeks. Education miller synonym their higher learning. But and also no. I promise that we would take it easy on you guys but yeah karen said fuck. Y'all she's giving you like an even harder one last time. So i'm sorry. Yeah i don't think she is sorry. She chose one on purpose. Now i'm sorry but yeah so. I am sorry that we've been gone for two weeks but i promise we won't do that to you guys again. At least a little bit. Ben is actually going to give you guys another florida man episode next week. The crazy fuckers has been on a rampage still. Marin easter like put him in his place a superhero. He's an anti hero. Captain florida who this live in south carolina. These are their stories. What is this something. No one is listening to this episode anymore. They're all card. Sorry it's been to. We forgot how to podcast on as opposed to use words. All right so yeah. Let's let's start talking about what this podcast is actually about today. Biggs case we're covering tonight is the horrific murder of sixteen year old yoon-ku this poor girl was forced to endure forty. Four days of some of the worst most extreme and just completely unimaginable torture. I have ever heard of or four days man. That's fucking crazy. The deprivation that. Junko suffered for approximately one thousand and fifty six hours. Jesus is the kind of crime that will keep you up at night wondering how such awful barbaric and just monstrous. Humans can exist right and i can actually attest to that. I've been having nightmares and the worst time sleeping at all while i've been researching this case has last time. He's your case next time please. While we're doing florida man. I'm talking about for your case as case all right so i warned. Y'all so buckle up because this one is going to be a brutal yeah big trigger warning here like if the last one got to you a lot. Which if you're human it did but if you couldn't handle the last one just just know that it does. It is a little bit worse this time around. By all accounts yoon-ku fruita was a bright student. She never skipped school and always maintain high grades. She's just an all around good kid. She was a junior at chino. Minami high school in me sato and she was also working part time two. Today's a week at a local plastic molding chump. She had been working to save money towards a college education. Jim co was definitely a beautiful girl and she had her fair share of admires admirers. That's kinda like rural. No one can say those words like what rural rural and in here. You stop rural. So you're still ms growling. This is the random noise We've lost all the listeners. They're gone yeah but will gain new ones random. Janko had a good head on her shoulders and she was focused on her studies and preparing for future. June co did not smoke. She did not drink alcohol. She did not do drugs. I mean she was just an all around good bright kid hold. While she hit the tom she was pretty much. A parents. dream child owns like it. And i think that's important to remember throughout janko story is that she was a kid a baby. Sadly june co caught the attention of hiroshi miano who was well known as the school bullying unfortunately for june go. Miana wasn't just your typical high school bully. He was in league with the yakuza. Which is pretty much a mafia-like gang in japan. The giacosa are ruthless. One of their ritual practices. You beat sumi involves amputating the left pinkie finger and giving it to their boss as an apology. If they've done something wrong for joining a gang. I mean i think fuck joining any game. This is true for call kings especially that one though many giacosa have tattoos all over their body including their genitals as we all do. I mean you know you do. But i don't want anyone coming towards me with a needle towards milady. Bits not happening giacosa control drug trafficking in japan more specifically methamphetamine. They also largely deal in human trafficking. The giacosa seek out girls from poor villages in the philippines. They then promised to bring them to japan. They're promised good jobs with good pay and of course. The girls jump at the opportunity to help their families. Once the girls reached japan though they're forced to work as strippers and to engage in prostitution. And i know i went kind of off topic. But i think it's important to understand the type of person that miano is and the type of other boys and men that he associates with right nobody's grownup to know tobacco jingo. Miano asked her out and she turned him down. Nicely as you can imagine. Miano had an ego the size of texas. He didn't like that very much and he wasn't used to being told no so. His fragile little man ego just couldn't handle it and that's exactly what it is a fragile little male ego. I wish i could simply say that. Fragile mal egos are unattractive but by now. I think we're all aware that they're also very dangerous. I wish i could tell you how much of my time more so in my younger days. I've spent literally coming up with strategies to shield myself for men's aggressive and confrontational responses to being turned down. I mean i've heard horror stories from women in all all races Women of all ages and social class. It's all women across the board. It's a shared experience. There's actually a meme. That's been going around facebook this whole week about downloading the google voice up picking a fake name a fake number and setting up a fake reading all that so when a creepy guy asks for your number and i quote. You don't want to get gutted and a back alley if he tries to call he thinks it's a real number that meam ends with and i quote go forth and don't get murdered ladies. I mean when's the last time you have to worry about that ben right. I think a lot of people need to understand that every fucking body gives turndown naya's guys and ghazni to learn how to deal with it without murdering women wome preferably. Yes so like the fucking shit stain that he is miana was furious and wanted revenge. Of course miano felt humiliated by june komo's rejection and unfortunately this is what would later lead to june goes death on the night of november twenty fifth nineteen eighty-eight. June co was riding her bike home after work like she typically did she was approached by whom she thought were too random boys. One of them tripped her up and she fell off her bike. The two of them then ran away. Miano who'd been posted across the street ran over to supposedly check on her. Poor jingo was bleeding and bruised miano then offered to drive her home and unsuspecting. June co agreed after all. He wasn't a stranger to her. How is she supposed to know that. This was all part of miano's plan to kidnap and raipur eventually killer. Miana helped janko to get in the car. But instead of driving her home he took her to an abandoned warehouse that served as a hideout for the jacuzzi on june co. Never made it home. Once they reach the warehouse miano dragged june co out of the car. There he was met by three friends. Noble harrow me. Not though comey soccer. Joe and just sushi watanabe on all these are ship people but again props on the pronunciation or. I'm sorry if i did that like terribly wrong. Don't be fucking sorry. They're all pieces of shit. I meant sorry to our japanese listeners. In general for the awful pronunciation. I'm pretty sure they're listening to us. They know it ain't going to be perfect. Initially miana rape janko not just once but over and over again may not do comey. Saku and watanabe begged miano. Keep june go so that they could all rape as well can serious. These assholes are like grace sprinkles and a rainbow cupcake good way of putting it so the fuck quits. That they are. The dude took turns raping jingo. And if that wasn't bad enough they also gang raped her miano. Threaten june go with his japanese gang affiliation. He told her that if she tried to escape they would kill her family for hours. June co was raped repeatedly walking awful man. I remember hearing. And i don't know if it was sort and scale or even salt looks like sugar that the boys also took her to a hotel and continued raping her there. I searched high and low for that. Specific part of information couldn't find that. But instead i came across that she was taken to a park and they continued raping her there for the purposes of taking her anywhere else. I don't know. But i mean you just wanna give everyone correct information so i'm just putting it out there. I can't remember which of the podcast at once. But one of them. Like i said did say that she was taken to a hotel. But i just couldn't find that information. They could've taken her multiple places then didn't go was taken to manatt. Does home well in all actuality has parents home. their home was located and the district of adachi tokyo. As you can imagine doing coz parents were distraught about their daughter because it wasn't like her to knock him home. They called her employer and friends and no one had any information about her whereabouts. June coast parents called the police on november twenty seventh and filed a missing persons report when they reached his home. June co was forced to pretend to be monotonous girlfriend. June co spent on total of forty four days at otto's house. Those forty four days were filled with inconceivable torture and unthinkable pain. The parents knew that she was there. She was brought in and she said that she was his girlfriend his girlfriend but still like and she doesn't fucking go home. I guess the parents are you know in that. Whatever mafia family as well so they're not thinking anything out of the ordinary i mean. Don't don't get ahead at yourself for. We'll get to that okay. I always get ahead of myself. You do the absolute nightmare that jim co went through is so horrifying. And just fucking inhumane that we definitely understand if you wanna skip this one. Hey this is kate. I'm a forensic psychologist and crisis clinician. And i collect stories everything from true crime to trauma to parenthood. There's a lot more in common between depression and sociopathic the or between serial killers and podcasters. Then you might think. Are you sure you really wanna know. This is ignorance was bliss at i w b podcasts dot com and wb podcast on social media or going to now discuss the extent of her sexual assault heavy torture and her murder going to be heavy. Janko was told that she was reported missing and again her families lives were threatened. She was forced to call her parents. She told them that she was completely fine. She had run away from home. She was safe with friends most importantly she wanted the police and her parents to stop searching for her. Regine having to make that phone call that you're being tortured and then just said they don't potentially hurt your parents. You have to call them a lot of them. Like i don't know if i could like just actually get through it to where they will believe me. She was that good of a kid she was. You know fiercely protecting her family. It's crazy june. Cho's parents were confused and heartbroken by the phone call but unfortunately they believed her and the search for her was cancelled uses. It has been estimated that june co was raped between four hundred and five hundred times. Talk i up to a hundred different men. What some men were friends of the four original guys most of them are believed to have ties to the giacosa now granted that hasn't been proven with complete certainty. But we're there's smoke there's fire. Yeah at the beginning of december one night while the men were asleep. June co was able to reach telephone. She called the police. This whole thing. Though is like a series of unfortunate events one of them woke up and snatched the phone away from june co before she could say anything walk. The police immediately called back but miano told him that there had been a mistake so nothing happened with that. Obviously this awful. It's like that movie. was telephone from the nineties. Were the woman gets kidnapped and she gets locked in the attic. And there's a phone there. But then the golly smashes it so she's sitting there having the light is cellular cellular. She's having to thousands not. Yeah and you're like. I'll get paid off early two thousands but like she's like clicking wires together and calls this random person but anyway they made me think of that because she calls the cost. Wouldn't the gallic takes it away before she can say anything that pisses me off though because as the operator or as the police. Whoever answers the phone if you get a hang up call and then you call back. And they're like oh. It was a mistake. I feel like you should at least send someone out that location and check. I mean kind of it happens a lot. I just feel like it should have been. How many people would kids call nine one one. I just feel like it should have been checked. I will die on that hill. It should have been checked. Here's where things take a horrible turn for the worst and it's just all kinds of bad news. Bears already taken a turn for the worst. It just keeps taking all sorts of turns for the worse every every time. They got pissed that she tried to call the police so they began to torture her. They stopped feeding her. She was beaten repeatedly. The boys kicked her and forced her to lie on the ground naked then they took turns jumping on her back. She was forcibly and deliberately hit with heavy objects. They made her masturbate in front of them. She was constantly raped and sodomized. Miano's parents claimed to not know the extent of what was going on at first but then jim co begged to for their help and they did absolutely nothing. of course they're not gonna fucking turn their own son in. They claim to be too afraid of the coosa so they allow junkers extreme physical and psychological pain to continue wait so his parents weren't part of the giacosa now. The parents were not affiliated with them at all. Oh okay i did not know that Right so their story is that she first came to their house claim to be his girlfriend. They allowed her in then. She begged for their help but they were too afraid to do anything. Well they were afraid that the jacuzzi would retaliate. The boys humiliated her by urinating and defecating on her. They forced her to eat. Live cockroaches for their amusement. They forced her to drink her own and their urine want shit is awful. They forced her to drink their semen. They forced her to eat. Not just hirfi sees. Oh my god. There's this well. Her skin was burned with cigarette. Lighters her genitals and her eyelids were burned with hot candle wax. They cut off her nipples. And then they're most cruel and sick game started. They began inserting all sorts of objects into her vagina. They inserted scissors bottles an iron bar. Grilling skewers a firework which they exploded inside her. A liable was forced inside of her then crushed and had break. This is making my stomach hurt. Oh my god. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. All serial killers live next door to someone and dennis. Rader was no different. Better known under the pseudonym b. t. k. bind torture kill raider was an expert at the double life devoted dad by day savage killer and night. He managed to get away with murder for three entire decades. You built his children a tree house that he later stashed polaroid's of his victims and he calmed his daughters fears. When she told him she was afraid of the serial killer on the loose. The only thing. I can figure out the killer later said is that i have compartmentalized somewhere in my body. I can live a normal life and quickly switch from one gear. So the next. I guess that's why i got away with it. Would you be fooled by raiders. Act find out on the next episode of the jury room. All right guys Were back So just still trigger. One is still going to be rough but we needed that break. So let's continue. They hung her from the ceiling and use their personal punching bag. She began both urinating and vomiting blood from the internal organ damage course. June co pleaded for death but they just continuing to torture her due to that complete brutality and torture that she was subjected to june. Co was essentially disfigured. Her burns and infected body parts began to produce a foul smell so the boys lost any sexual interest in her. They tortured her more instead. The fuck man. Finally towards the end of december one of the douche nuggets decided to grow a fucking conscience and he told his parents about what was going on at miano's house and they didn't do shit probably these parents that their goddamn job good and called. The police good officers arrived at manado house answer price prize. His parents acted as though they had no fucking clue what the police was talking about. I mean these pieces of shit even invited the police to come inside and search their home because obviously they had nothing to hide. She's still there. She was still there. And then i shit you not. These damn officers acted like a mall security rent a cops with an iq of a fucking rotted cucumber and they were like no. We're good really. We don't need to come inside at all really. Obviously you're not hiding anything if you're inviting us to come inside. This kid literally confessed and your late. No want the fuck i mean. I'm not a police officer. Obviously but those stories should be but those are some pretty extreme accusations and they just didn't take it seriously. Do you think this part of they know who the parents son is. And what gang. He's would you think that had a part to do with it. I don't give a shit if he's the motherfucking president son. They didn't give the situation the importance it deserved. I'm just saying like they were probably scared for their life as well if they knew who they were dealing with. I don't care at this point. Do co. was still alive. And those officers i danzon. Obviously maybe just maybe have they done. They're damn job. she could have been saved. They failed her. A one hundred percent failure they did on december twenty seventh nineteen eighty-eight at around two thirty. A m miano and his three buddies kidnapped a nineteen year. Old girl. really on another is to. I mean there's nothing better to do with their time. They kidnapped her when she was on her way home. She was threatened at knifepoint into miano's car and then she was taken to our hotel room. Where miano and the others proceeded to gang rape her now remember earlier. I said hearing another podcast that. Junko was taken to a hotel room right. I think this girl is being confused and this situation was being placed in the janko story. It later came to lie during court proceedings that on november eighth so roughly two weeks before june coups kidnapping the group of voice had committed a similar gang. Rape is not their first time. Obviously now in january of nineteen eighty-nine nine arrived day. Started trying to figure out what to do with janko because obviously they couldn't just let her go on january fourth. They challenged june. Go to a game of mahjong. They explained that if she won they would simply set her free bullshit but if one of them one he would then get to decide how to kill. Janko is dead other way like a fucking bad ass. June kobe them. Yeah like i said. She's dead other way she still beat them. She's been raped tortured burned. They've done all these awful things to her. And she's still be bernie impressive going back to the fragile male ego. They just couldn't handle being beaten by her. It infuriated them instead of setting her free. They doused with gasoline. God and set her on fire. I mean that's all full. Please tell me this like the last thing that happened. Please tell me she was able to die after that. That is not the last thing that happens. Fucking are you serious. I am serious. The story really is awful. This is probably the worst story. I've heard and i've a lot of bad stories. I am keep going once. The fire went out. They continue torturing her she was kicked and punched while tied to a punching bag. Miano comey saku. Monaco and watanabe got grossed out as she started having convulsions and blood from her mouth and nose and from the burns that covered her body so instead of stopping they cover their hands with plastic bags. Are you fucking serious fucking did. They didn't get anything on them. Like fucking grocery bags pieces. I mean they're pieces of shit. Obviously already they tape those to their wrists so they would stay on and they continued punching all over her. They threw exercise weights at her. I mean how is she still alive. That is insane. 'cause this user writer this little girl was a bad ass. Pitch really was and you know what's all so strong it is kinda you know. Catch twenty two thing man if she could have just. I'm sure she was holding on saying that she's going to survive lie. She's gonna get through this she would have just let go. Maybe she wouldn't have had to go through a lot of this. you know. i think that that was probably part of her. She didn't think she hadn't registered that. They were going to kill her so she probably thought that if she just held on she was she was going to go back to her parents. Which is s heartbreaking in itself. Right there finally. They untied her from the punching bag and dropped her on the floor where she continued convulsing. They taped her wrist and her ankles and left her to go. Relax at a fucking sauna. He's shit while they were out enjoying themselves and having a grand old time. June finally died all alone. I mean i'll rather dow all alone then with them so her story just breaks my heart. I feel like the original phone call. Whoever answered that call whoever called back. I mean failed her. I feel like monotonous parents felt or if the cops that showed up failed her. I feel like there were so many times that she could have been saved. Know those the the boy's parents say he did confess like they didn't follow what the police they could have gone over there themselves. If they knew that the police originally didn't do anything they could have done more to still like. She was failed by so many people. Many people feel like her death. One hundred percent could have been prevented easily once they returned and found her dead body. They wrapped up in several blankets. Stuffed her body into a large travel bag and taped all around it. I hit my glasses on the mike. I'm talking and i was like plunk random noise pockets have no idea that picked up or now we're going to find out they dump the bag end to an oil drum fill. The top with concrete blocks then filled it up with fresh concrete. Miano borrowed a truck from someone he knew presumably a past employer on january fifth at around eight. Pm they loaded the oil drum onto the truck and made plans to dispose of it by dumping it into the ocean. I got a little curious about the details. So i looked at. You always get curious about the details. Yeah a little bit a. lot of so. The closest body of water to them was tokyo bay which is an inlet of the pacific ocean on the east central coast of east central honshu japan so the distance from adachi city to tokyo bay is roughly twenty five to thirty kilometers depending on which route they would take so. That's only like eighteen and a half miles so then i found three possible. Pretty straightforward routes from adachi. City to tokyo bay. So what have taken them between twenty five to thirty five minutes together deep on google maps. I spent like an hour on google maps. Probably how book these bill this anyways. Twenty five to thirty five minutes. That's not a far drive but these kids were so mother fucking lazy that on the way they pass on empty space near a development site and they just dumped oil-drum. They're like best not suspicious and won't get checked out right but right. That's what you would think but juncker fruita was forgotten there for over two months really really you know on march twenty ninth miano. An mahto were arrested for the rape of the nineteen year old. That previous december women's underwear had been found at both of their homes on november sixteenth. Nineteen eighty-eight only nine days before june co was taken a mother and her seven-year-old were murdered in the district. Which is where meena toes houses that wasn't unsolved case. It actually still is unsolved case. So the investigator thought that maybe miano and manati aware involved. Dna tested those now. The officer started questioning miano asking questions about a murder. The officer was assuming that the murder was the woman and the seven year. Old homeboy told on himself. Yeah so like the stupid dick liquor that he is. That one called me off guard. I'm sorry so that again. Dick liquor nice. Put that on shirt. That's going to be your audio clip. So here immediately assumed that manatt remix. He immediately assumed that menaka was in the other room confessing to everything about janko so he confessed everything and told the police where to find her body. The very next day police went out the development site and found the oil drum. Her body was decomposed. Pretty badly it just sat in that oil drum putrifying for over two months. She was swollen from fluid buildup caused by severe malnutrition on her ankles. Feet on hands adidas pretty common with malnutrition and tissue out. That's why she was swollen. Gotcha june coz facial features were one hundred percent on recognizable at this point from all of the beatings and all of the torture and then decomposition no the only way they were able to identify her was by fingerprints on april first commie. Saku and watanabe were arrested for sexual assault and murder on april second. Nineteen eighty nine. June goes funeral was held and it was attended by her friends and her family they closure to. I'm glad she was found yes. I'm glad that they were able to bury her. She deserves that much more than staying in an old drum one hundred percent by japanese standards and laws. They were considered underage. Though miana was eighteen. Coming through age coming saku was also eighteen. I don't know i keep calling in that. His last name is joe. I'm calling everyone by their last names. And then he's the easiest way vice versa. I'm the whole time. Good old jew actually shitty ask joe sorry may not was. The youngest at sixteen and watanabe was seventeen all fucking adults. They're not but they're going to be childlike adults. Hopefully actually all of them were given what i consider a slap on the wrist and really forgiving sentences miano which is the mastermind behind all of it received the most punishment which was a twenty year sentence. That's all that's all and has was the worst. He was released in two thousand and nine while only to be arrested again in two thousand and thirteen on fraud charges. They didn't have sufficient evidence though so he ended up being released without any actual charges. Event changed his name to yokoyama and yokoyama is pretty open about his ties to the yakuza. And he likes to flash the money he makes. He wears high end. Designer clothing drives a nice bmw and often seen at clubs and parties literally. His life is unaffected whatsoever. Now has a fucking perfect fantastic life commie soccer. Joe was given a five to ten year. Sentence wanted it was released in august of nineteen ninety nine. What he got involved pretty heavily with giacosa in may of two thousand four. He was arrested again. This time for the kidnapping and imprisonment of a man. He was only given four years for that. One yard man now. His mother is a fucking peach. She vandalized june grave because she ruined her son's life. She ruined her son's life like now. Busy now bitch. Your son ruined her life and murdered her. I mean i'm all for moms. Pretend they're kids. But no your kids a piece of shit. But then i'm not surprised that he's a piece of shit because her son goes off and murder someone as she desecrates their grave doesn't fall from the shit trie exactly may not. Oh i'm sorry on the les trailer park boys there which you have no idea what i'm talking about. I tried back when we started dating to watch like five minutes of it. And i just could not even more than five minutes now puck and nice. Katie a horrible bubbles of. What's going on what's going on. We'll watch it tonight now. Yeah no year too. Nice is it. Now you're the what's the that the drink thing that like comes running into your house and like breaks your wall i now. You're the kool aid man. We hear a sound more like the dude. Snap into a slim jim. You don't fuck no anything. who did i marry. I don't know who did you marry randy savage thing. That's his name. Please sound oh man. We just got a new logo needed another look patrol god weaker. Oh which speaking of our new logo look an awesome by the way. I don't know if you guys follow us on social media you should follow us on social media until you all the names in a bit but just real quick. Go look at our new logo there. Is this awesome. Incredible amazing artist on twitter. Her name is flesh would look her up. She is fucking insane. She is so goddamn talented. Yeah if you look at our logo you'll tell yeah she's amazing. I have no face. Monotone was given a five to nine year sentence. That's like a super random number like five to nine on yeah. He was arrested in august of twenty nine thousand nine again for attempted murder. He apparently beat a man with a metal baton. Because you know what they say. A cheetah can't change. its pants changes pans. Yeah or is it. A leopard can't change his shorts. I think they're both wearing shorts. I think you're right. Yeah ya again. You know nothing. I know nothing. And i don't know what i'm doing. What tanabe was sentenced to five to seven years. Now he's the only one who hasn't continued doing for shit that we know of at least not openly. Maybe he's really good at it now and doesn't get caught we don't know he's pretty low key and lives with his mommy home. Run say something like your face. I feel like you're you're gonna say maybe. His mom is a big piece of shit to lay the other person's mom i don't know what kind of person she is but he probably lives with her because he knows nobody wants us as after the shit he didn't mean. What do you think homeboy his name does. Parents weren't charged for shit which is also pretty insane. It blows my mind and makes me super angry. I don't know what the laws are like in japan. But that's like a necesary to murder. I mean you can go begged for her life. She begged for their help. They did absolutely nothing to helper and blatantly lied to police officers to when they came to check their son gets a super lenient sentence speaking. He's a minor so he can't be held accountable. So then shouldn't has parents be held accountable. Who is going to be held accountable for this. Fucking held accountable in years is not held accountable for shit. Tim sorry twenty. Years is still not held accountable. The four man who brutally raped tortured and murdered janko. All four of them are walking around free members of society and june her entire future was ended with unthinkable and relentless torture. She would have been fifty years old. This past january. Yes she was just a kid to like. It's hard to remember that everything that she's gone through she was sixteen. She was a baby just awful. I hate everything that she went through. But even more i hate that we know exactly. Who did all of those awful things to her. And this was not served one bit. They didn't pay for their crimes. No twenty years. I didn't even serve twenty. Years is not. She got for justice. I mean that was a really heavy one. That's all i got. I am emotionally drained. Must make is churning. Right now lease. Let's still a little bit lighter one next time. Well like i said next week. Ben is going to do episode. Two of his florida man mini series. I know we got so much feedback. You guys all seem to really really loved that. So ben's going to another one for you. Yeah we're gonna try to not go two weeks again between episodes and that's what we originally started doing but man it seems like fucking forever now. It's my fault. I ended up. Having surgery also started a new job too. So there's a little bit of of life going on life sucks. Sometimes surgery sucks paints sox as pretty rough lighter news again. If you guys follow us on social media we posted a picture of this super awesome coffee mug with our super awesome logo designed by flesh rod and we are actually going to have a. What's that word. i can't ever remember. You will way. That's at a giveaway. We're going to be doing a giveaway. You can't remember for me. I mean i remembered it in another language in my head or you say it. I can't remember. I was gonna ask no. I just honestly couldn't like think of the word. Anyway we go giveaway having an awesome giveaway. I'm we've got these awesome mugs. It go check them out. We're going to be awesome. Everything is awesome. Go watch the lego movie. It's awesome the side of the mike at probably sounded really weird. She's we'll have new. Mike stewart. She's not used to we. We tend to fall apart to the end of our episodes. So i'm very sorry if things get a little loopy right now. The bottom line is giveaway. Coup monks check a out bullet points. It's coming keep your eyes out. I was going to see if you can keep your eyes out or keep your ears. Keep your eyes over. We keep anything. Now put everything up. Everything should be up and clothed especially during cova. Nothing is out. None of your office should be exposed. what's this orifices plural. You couldn't even say give voice taking any shit from you whatsoever. I have good words what i was trying to say though before you interrupt me with your orifices talk. Don't be confused. Gross sounds dirty gigi okay. You're getting me distracting. If you're confused about what the details of the giveaways are. Don't worry we haven't said it yet. 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You can find us on the insta- you can find us on instagram compulsion. Podcast you can go to our website. Curbing compulsion dot com then an email if you really want to cast a chrome compulsion dot com. I think that's it. I don't know man you can trust smoke signals worse or no sorry. Cnc usually do sin of secrecy not sos. Crimean compulsion. why are you over. there pantomime. Doing mandala can't see your. She's over there fucking spasm. Our now planet ear- keyboard trying to get me to go dude. Summary was doing why goodbye. Yeah sorry next. Time you.

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Talk Radio - Monday Morning Quarterback NFL Week 15 Dec 23 2020

The Sports Comedy Show

29:45 min | 11 months ago

Talk Radio - Monday Morning Quarterback NFL Week 15 Dec 23 2020

"This comedy show awesome. Are the creator show and this is another gift of talk. Radio today is monday. December twenty first happy holidays happy monday. Today's theme will be monday morning quarterback once again we'll take a look at some of these games and stories that are breaking cents in us. What your on. Monday morning quarterback. I love quarterback this fun. The i it's paw on talkradio said the rams wanna shoot the whole day down there. They were Had a big loss to the jets. Yesterday they did not need that because they weren't a dog race for the nfc west now. They're a game behind seattle and Possibly might not win. The nfc west biggest. They wanna get. That's huge and there's something the our little bit of the backstory top to comment on my monday morning quarterback this story. You've not seen on the network heater on sports radio on talk radio with paul about sports. Safety is everybody in. This was back four or five months ago. Everybody's jesse just lose all their gains in. Try to get the topic. Everybody says lawrence fit. So let's just lose our gates. No do not do that. I don't believe teams have done if your own whatever you want to win that game now maybe in the last week seventeen or sixteen when everybody seeing the starters wherever you're at rap but to try to not win a game or try to go without a win just to get the next year's first round draft. There's no guarantees workout good. I don't believe in that. i don't believe the jets. Were like that either yes. They got hammered. But yesterday was clear example with a point that i was making when i said they got hammered all season they got hammered but yesterday they came to play it was simply. They're the better team. And that's what happens in sports. You don't know when the both sides take the field who's going to be the better team for that day and yesterday the jets were the very. It was very apparent. They came to play in yesterday. They were the better team. And i just don't like that subject topic. Oh just throw the game. Let's just throw the talent were next. You go for that number one that's bs. I think it's total. I'm glad to see the jets. Get on the board with the win. Random thinking. No we don't like monday. We lost to the now they did as into the apology behind seattle. We'll get to them next. We're going to cover some of these games. But that's my first money name morning quarterback scenario so get another story here over the last week or two on all the different talk shows. You know besides the ones on tv. I catch the ones on the radio as well in so who's been one topic it's kind of floated from all the different stories because it's the holidays football topic or a sports talk. Well it is sports topic but not not football. I guess anyway So the story is. Do you think die hard. Is christmas movie now. If you go back if you look at the movie die hard all of a sudden the movies like thirty years old. I have gotta be twenty five to thirty years old if you met. Reflect the first ten years after it was such a great movie. If you see all year round would play on all the stations such a great movie but then as time goes on you know who move on and you'll catch it on the classics or on a weekend or something but it kind of slipped off the radar just because time and then all of a sudden it started popping up during the holidays so the question is been asked is die. Heart a christmas movie. Even some of these talk radio shows. They've had the phone to people call in and say why it is why it isn't i say it is and i'm gonna tell you. Why as mentioned movies thirty years old in now. They only played during the holiday season. And it's not a traditional holiday movie but they're very much kids theme setting the whole thing was based around christmas. And also if you're on the soundtrack was christmas music again so i say have become a christmas A christmas movie. It wasn't his intention but the movie was so good and so incredible is now just spun off in that direction so unsure. It'll be on all week because this is christmas week and i'll probably catch it again once in a while. I love bruce willis. I love the movie. I'm sure most of you to the my answer to the question is die. Hard a christmas movie. I think it has become a christmas. Okay let's go ahead and get into on some football. Let's start with the monday morning quarterback now besides sunday we had a game on saturday. But here's the big one. Something happened saturday something. That hasn't happened quite a while but it happened. The buffalo bills went into denver. I was a little skeptical thinking the bills. Dude so good at some point. They're going to have to fall in denver to be. Wanna do it now. The buffalo bills did not fall in denver. Buffalo turns out comes up big huge win four eight nineteen. Everything was right for them. Offense and defensively and it's josh l. Stephan dates is the once you combo. People are talking to possible combo all so buffalo with this win as now eleven three in buffalo for the first time in twenty five years done something. You haven't done any division. That's been tough. I mean it's been the patriots division for over twenty years on miami couple good years but the buffalo bills win. Sec east congratulations. Forty five years in the afc allen. You're buffalo bills the twenty twenty. Afc east champions. Congratulations to them. Now for those. If you haven't been in the west side. I only started show that i'm thinking i did to be honest If you had the website. I gotta bills mafia page up. It's been real popular so you want to catch that bills mafia page. I put a lot of funny stuff out there. And that's Sports Dot net forward slash bills discussed the homepage. You can find it. It's simple bills. Mafia paid congrats. Licensed bah lau can't believe they were diet that they did it. Let's look at the game here. Real quick big numbers. It was all offense josh. Three hundred fifty nine yards two. Tv's only one sack took us out that good man because he didn't give up the ball he didn't have any any any interceptions which is huge now. The rest of the team also did good. Besides josh steffen digs hundred. Forty seven yards cole beasley becoming. His is clearly his his number two receiver. The guy squirms and gets out there. One hundred twelve yards dawson. Knox cats for touchdown. So he's spreading around. Josh allen is in the running which isn't great but it complements the passing game. And that's why it's good single terry. Have the long run. Sixty eight yards with. Td zack moss is the the. I believe the go-to runner. The rose specially on third and short. Zack mossy yards there. The point of getting out here. It's a well balanced offense. It's not just josh. Allen stephan digs. You've got some big. We've got some big big targets there on on the receiving side even even Gabriel davis in j coomer off. These guys are catching the ball. They're getting targets. And all of a sudden i think buffalo's right on candidacies tell for the next best team in the afc so they went for them. They win the division. I thought we'd play a little music for those. Who don't know that who love classical music which i get the feeling nobody ever does nowadays. That was tchaikovsky's eighteen twelve overture get eighteen twelve overture to the buffalo bills. All right that story monday morning quarterback time carson woods. Where where do we go with this. I'm having a hard time believing the stories actually true. And i've read a few of the conversations they all said the same thing carson wentz is not happy carson wentz says or so they say he says i can't believe you actually say if he's going to be benched he wants to be trade and talk about stories at scratching your head like carson you the you bid to be quite frankly because you suck now. You're team gave you week after week week after week. After we to to to to show that you can play worthy of starting quarterback but the bottom line hardwoods week after we after week. After week you sucked. Now you're on the bench because you suck and now say well if you just trade me cussing nobody wants you where you're nine million dollar contract. It ain't gonna happen. Sit on the bench and be there in you. Wanna know why because the fact that you suck the other reason is because person who's taking over your position game and hearst. He doesn't side actually. he's pretty good. And if you recall here on talk radio show. I was one who said why not here car. Give jane and hearse chance how can you. How can you keep going week after week. Because it's not working just trying to figure out why and they finally did four weeks later. Incur jerry hudson being the kid's young. But he can throw the ball he to run the ball okay. They lost the game yesterday. So let's look at the game. He still had a hell of a game. I was very impressed with him. You know arizona came out strong quicken. Arizona was in a dire win. Win must win. Scenario the deer total was thirty three twenty six arizona. Arizona came out quick fast. Sixteen did nothing but philly bounces back with twenty points in the second quarter and it was all jalen hurts. His numbers were huge. He had three ts. Three hundred thirty eight yards in. Here's where i love. Jared hurts got sacked six times. That's huge that's a lot but he didn't turn over the ball like a man. He took his sat. And that's what the thing all reflect back to. Tom brady why he's the greatest because he knows how to take in the point. I didn't place perfect. In apparently arizona learn how russian blitz front line and they got them and they were affected but he hung in there in he came back and he made a hell of a game of it in. They always had a chance to win. It didn't happen. Arizona actually score With about seven minutes left in philly had two chances. Were able to get data touchdown but a lot of his passes were right there in receivers just couldn't hold on so jalen hurts. Was good my monday morning. Quarterback carson wentz you suck and you belong on the bench and quite frankly we don't see you again for the rest of the year. Okay good fun get the car would story off my chest the students sports recap in the just kind of go over all the scores yesterday and Then we will talk about monday. Monday night football but i i may have forgot. I talk about the five star pit. I hit the five star. Pick this wiki. Let's put a little monday morning quarterback on that one the monday more my five star pick was Miami against new england now noon with his not had a good year. They're not the team they were the. Afc east now goes to buffalo but one thing that everybody always overlooked in. Maybe i knew when you because i am a patriot fans member of the things. I actually have long term memory. Don't ask more mckee's are you nonetheless the point i'm trying to make is historically new. England always does terrible in my anger. They cannot win in miami to save their soul. There are forces out there that we can't see they're effective in the psych. When new england goes to miami forget it. They're gonna lose in. That was why it was my five star. Pick with last week. Was i knew that they would go to miami lose in. Yesterday i saw the social media. Everybody was dropping on new england. Everybody thought it was the optic yesterday. Now they were and it was clear the scene even at half when they were up six. Nothing i didn't. I didn't falter caveat. I realized you guys don't realize what's gonna happen here. I thought might have been heading to a very dramatic loss for me with the miami came around in the second half so first of all the five star pick hit five star. Pick is now ten five on the year that is. Ats against the spread as we say. Bad ara pat myself on a backer. My dad used to say. Don't break your arm. Pat yourself on the so. I just can't believe nobody picked up on by the at my newman evidence beauty man and the next part of the story that. I'm gonna monday morning quarterback in. Here's what they have been talking about on the big network. Is this cam. Newton stay in should who stay in new england. Yeah i don't know his contract scenario and everybody everybody looks at cannon like oh it was a terrible year when i was just. It was a bad in another whether to know. They're not going to play off but this is not been no ordinary season. First of all. He replaced tom. Brady second of all half the team. Math is well third. The author thing covy king in a plate of big party. That's hard and he was. They were on track to to stay on contention with the east before. Kobe hit him and the division since then they have put the team back together. It's been hard for them. I think kim still a good quarterback. I don't think on has a better alternative without and the he has a better alternative without either. I think ken stays in new england in next year. My hobbies pretty bit. That's a long way down the road. Even look at bill pella check. It will have to do what he does. Best player play. But they're all thinking former unseen on being networked always been bad cancer beman which. I don't think there's a better alternative. Not that i can see these for both these teams. I think you're gonna see cam newton back to. I'm not gonna judge about nature because that's too far down the road. It's just the fact that this has been very different year and Cam newton with a lot of a lot of back or bad scenarios working against those forces. Were just strong. The biggest one obviously was fact that tom laughing. Tom left everybody else left. So it's been a tough one. I still like superman. I still like the patriots. Get over again win the division. It happens okay not can be a playoff for like twelve years avenue in the playoffs so Latins on this we wanted to our next story. Let's do a little sports. Recap look at all these games with this kind of run through and then. We're gonna talk about monday night football. We've got a good one coming up tonight. Steelers and sincere. I'll put my two cents. Because i am a monday morning quarterback you know. I wish every day was like monday that they would say. Tell me why i say. I don't like mondays. They would sit. Tell me why. I said i just want to shoot the whole day down. Monday's mcintyre back into and you just don't know what happened before. it's all just want to say tally. Why why did these way. I wanted to 'cause he's never goes away. Yes this mother. Who wants to shoot down monday with base everybody on the east coast on the west coast here. I got some fans here in. Vegas is money more shoot shootdown monday because that's the way it works. Okay i'm on a roll morning. Maybe it held too much cappuccino. My coffee. I'm not sure i don't drink. Cappuccino cream hazelnut note. I guess so. Let's look at some that's kind of your recap of the game chair off. Run through the board and sensitive. Yesterday was fifteen on the nfl. Lot of big gangs talked about the bills on saturday rebate on saturday. Twenty four sixteen. Congratulations to remain. we've they. They clinched their division as well reminders. Looking good they're probably in the number one. Seek to get that first round by. He's now that new orleans ross. The no surprise they'd be panthers. Twenty four sixteen dallas forty one san francisco thirty three. Everybody who thought dallas was done. His zeke without that wasn't to be jerry jones finally get to win and probably everybody stayed with them instead letter to the woman. Sapper dallas like everybody else in that division is just one game out of first place. I think it'd be like that. All the whole is that division is the nfc twenty seven. Houston twenty. andy. Once again this time did it home. They keep going out of a gene defense. Big philip rivers vic. I you know. I keep looking for them to fall off and they keep really wrong chicago. Thirty three minnesota twenty two Technical thirty three chicago through three minutes or twenty seven. They're just playing for bragging rights. Nobody was in a race here. Must i kept tags. Want much of it High scoring game went back and forth. Democrats randy's many yards Not that exciting. They're worth mentioning seattle. Twenty washington fifteen wasn't jin had the game or to lead in the nfc east. They needed to keep that. Lead doesn't abandon. It's all going to be cited by one game. Seattle wins on the road at least washington. Try to come back in the end. Seattle now has the top notch in the nfc west. Remember on wednesday. Last week i preview just the mc west. This week was the preview the asc. Well the big upset. The one says the we talked about the opening show jets. Twenty-three rams twenty yes. The ramp don't like monday. And i wanna ask them around widen monday. I didn't ranchers wanna shoot the whole day the whole day down. It was terrible. Jets came off strong quick and hard these for its points. The rams offensively. Dr gok look terrible. Finally came out on the second half looked like they had a chance to tie it. They could have had a kick a couple of fields. Weren't able to give the end zone jets. Finally win game congratulate us in the dnc. Gotta win one game. Thank god that that story now stuff. Already war lose to get the verve played to win in the jets. Did they want twenty three twenty big game for them sunday night. Football cleveland twenty giant sits. Cleveland needed to stay on their playoff race which they did and again the giants in that division. Where one game will decide them all. It's all over gutless. No big deal for them to losing They're there's still hunt Cleveland it wasn't close join joins to play a little bit better all on sunday night. Football the cleveland. Snap back after having lost to the ravens on the wacky final Any of the game did a great spoof by the way on. Lamar jackson is on the west side. If you haven't seen it he's funny but i. i was only a map video clip. Go to the website sports comedy. Show dot net. Go to the video page and it's called cramps. Get a kick out of it if you haven't seen it i. There's some people at the stake. Wasps second third ton. Maybe maybe i was watch her second i. I can't remember moving on to the bay. Thirty one atlanta twenty seven. And you know what that means. Don't you saw it. Was the brady bunch. Tom brady once again. This time it took the show would laugh. Group has rob gronkowski antonio brown. We had rate these guys all. Make the radi bucks. Let's not forget the rushing game. Leonard forgets even. Talk radio rapper minus two yards. That the here. Here's he ran okay backwards but he took his sack three sacks no rainbows yes the brady bunch. Good win for them. It was a come from behind win for tom. Brady and the brady bunch. They were a female required strong. Seventeen to knocking at half but the into the locker room they regrouped. They didn't have grams. Tampa bay comes on strong twenty points in the third or the finally take the lead in the four brady finds Who did you find the end. I think you've grown did find grown where grab i'm now robin catch ikat. He got three recesses. Twenty nine yards antonio brown. That's the one who got the td pass to get things going for. Net also scored two touchdowns so goodwin for tampere. They'd stay pace in the playoff race. They're not gonna catch new orleans big hundred and once again. The monkey stays on their back. They can never know. How squandered it that's sports recap. Let's talk about monday night football. We got one today. We got the steelers in cincinnati bengals. Anybody cared probably. But i can give you a monday morning quarterback to find out square and that is talked about this on last week when i did. The is since the steelers out prom now. They're a big favorite and they're expected to win and they should win this game. Other than fact in cincinnati. So you never know what happens on the roads. The problem here here comes monday morning. Quarterback is very clear. The steelers can't catch the ball. Now when you're in the national football a and when you're a playoff contending team and when you started when you were eleven and now if you can't catch the football this serious problem and if it very clear that the pittsburgh seasons can't catch the ball. And i'm not enough these long historic run one hand. Tattoo the fabulous acrobatic planes as being made nowadays. I'm talking about receivers. Wide open. Ben ben and right in their chest in both. This fumbled the ball and right other hands. They've lead the league in passes over thirty then like ten ten more drop acids than any other team. It's embarrassing become embarrassing. So the question tonight is and they know that by the way coach knows that in some of their receivers know that goes like the ball receiver. Well no you're not going to get the same receiving core. They've got a problem. Maybe those latex lots of the wellness my ignorant so the story tonight is going to be cam. The steelers all onto the football kid gets the ball or were they going to do the same antics. Fortunately the planet Cincinnati team these roles. Even if they do drop the ball three or four times it probably will be the end of the world but it will be the end of the road complaints. So let's keep an eye on that doctrine. Monday morning quarterback for tonight's game is. Let's see the steelers. Make these foolish unforced errors as it was saying tennis Nc if they dropped the ball if you can actually hold onto the ball in not have made meals have one or two four five of these ridiculous ariza and see if they're receivers can the ball and make big band look decent back to the game itself. No surprise here only big surprise. It's a big number on the spread for those who are actually the the bedding game. Fourteen points home team dog. Sounds awfully good with fourteen points. Probably gonna be cold windy to be one of these ugly of scoring games. That's the way i see. Okay guys this. Is paul on your monday morning quarterback how fun this morning on the show brought a lot of energy quite frankly you know we talked about carson winston. I'm going to say one time carson. Wentz he saw and what about the buffalo bills wanted to eighteen. Twelve overture dedicated straight to the bills star. Pick yet down mayenne is they. Got the fourth encountered a miami diehard. Yes i think die. Hard is a christmas movies. Just done somebody the whole show. That's the first time i've ever done by the way as well so all kinds of new skill tone here. Hey christmas on. Friday on wednesday we're probably. Afc break them down as well. Thanks a lot i him. The created host of the show. Paul salerno have good day.

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The Christmas Cult

Let's Start A Cult

43:28 min | 10 months ago

The Christmas Cult

"Introducing touch free payments from pay pal. A safe way for your customers to pay simply download the pay pal app and display your own unique. Qr code for your customers to scan whether europe market seller poodle pamper piano tuner or plummer signing up to accept touch free payments for. Your business is easy touch free. Qr code payments no seller fees until twenty twenty one not applicable to pay all your transactions other fees may apply shop safe with pay pow. Police departments around the country are notorious for turning a blind eye towards officers who have committed serious offenses on katherine sheffield the host of a few bad apples. A weekly podcast that takes listeners into deep dives of crimes committed by that apple officers. Not all policemen are bad. In fact i highlight a positive story. At the end of every episode. Sharing these victims stories is my way to provoke change within police departments. A few apples is available on apple. Podcasts spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Happy holidays findings josh l. Let's start called podcast. Podcast the releases. Christmas episode after christmas in What i would call successful attempt to undermine the holiday now with that out of the way. Let me introduce you guests this episode and because it's the holidays i thought why not share this episode with some of the people closest to me with that being said i guess is the glue that keeps me from crumbling because you know what they say behind. Every great podcasts cult leader is an even greater and more competent partner. And my case is different so please. Welcome to the podcast. My lovely girlfriend and partner in crime sienna damage me in our relationship. Now i feel like oh yeah this su- premium and then this other ran into how you doing. I'm good how are you good. Now how do you feel about christmas. i know how you feel obviously but explain to our audience. What christmas means to you. I love christmas. The well halloween's pretty good to you. But i don't know. Christmas is live big families. We always do a lot of stuff for christmas. And play games and trivia and stuff so and like baking with my mom and getting to like deliver the baking taller families and stuff and lots of family time and it's the style gic and snowy and nice and you'll sledding and drink hot chocolate much hallmark favorite part of the hallmark movies making so true. Well that's awesome. My second and final guest has been one of my closest friends ever since we started playing soccer together over thirteen years ago though. Most of our relationship is ripping each other and him wishing he had my soccer skills. He's still one of my closest allies and best friends. Please welcome noah. Now how are you today. I'm wonderful joshua. How're you good. Good now same question to you. How do you feel about christmas. And what does it mean to you. Yeah probably alec trash trash hallmark movies. A great don't have to do with this holiday. Like i hate christmas. I don't i don't like it. It's i typically also low backstory in my whole family's in ontario especially with. Kobe could see your family ever. Everyone's in that boat but even the past couple of years you know like i spend christmas on my own here in bc. I find it very relaxing enjoyable holiday. Why it needs to a month and a half. I've been listening to christmas. Music noticed. frame. Everyone's flack with christmas right like we start playing christmas music in october. My store actually to their credit started like a week and a half ago. I was like fuck yourself. It's like played the week of Yeah i don't know. I don't hate it i like it. I'm not ready to die. Die for it. Well you might enjoy episode. Then noah to probably hate this but Let me start this episode with a bit of a story to get everyone in the mood for this wonderful holiday episode guys ready for this amazing story i am. This is the story of the cult is it. Jesus the story. Jesus thought the calls. He thought he was jesus. Let me let me tell the story i guess about. If isn't it isn't about jesus. He is mentioned in the story. Not not this one coming up. But the whole episode he will be mentioned in the episode now now like a creepy culture like everyone died called. This is a well. It's kind of creepy when you think about it when you think about that. Wants me over the creepy exchange. The cult does. She likes naked beer. Afraid crear let me start with the story to get the microphone so you get a chance on a winter night years ago a little girl and boy sat in their bedroom huddled together listening for any noises that might threaten to disturb the quiet darkness. They were excited giddy. Even they had invited a strange man over a man they had met at the mall. They tried not to fall asleep for fear of missing their slide new friend. They had been writing to the stranger for weeks now. They knew that he had been watching them. He watched them as they played as they ate as they slept and on the day that they finally got to meet him and invited them to sit on his lap as hard as they tried to keep their little eyes open and their little ears alert they eventually did succumb to a deep temptations of sleep. When they awoke they ran downstairs to see if the stranger come. The first place they checked was their fireplace. How do you come crashing through the chimney like he promised. It seemed to their delight that he had the cookies they left firm at his request had been eaten next. Check the present bags socks. They had hung over the chimneys or the stranger to place presence inside. They knew that the stranger would only leave presence to children who had been good for the bad kids. The naughty kids the kids who bent the rules or stomped their feet wind at supper or at bedtime he would leave them something else. Eagerly they tore open their socks inside. The girls was a dull inside. The boys was a lump of black coal a punishment for misbehaving for not following the strangers rules. The little boy burst into tears. This stranger is a worshipped by billions of children around the globe children. Who do whatever they can to be good because they know if they are bad you will see them. He will add their names to a list and on that one night a year where every child awaits his special visit to their home. He will punish them because today's cult we will be discussing the christmas cult. Wow to are you guys feel about the story. Did i Did i encapsulate christmas. Pretty accurately. I mean you can put a negative on. This story is most stories that are like in folklore and stuff. They don't have a great start. Yeah that's something. Someone deeply ingrained in. Mccall would say so this is this is this is about people who love christmas like get like cults like let's everyone right but so it's not like a bunch of people together during cooling. No no we already. Did that creeping up to josh gets pretty creepy. Twenty people like like murdering each other or like people just santa claus dropping down like murdering whole families acting like a cult cult. All right so. I think next year i'll be talking about no and his new colt. Not saying i want to do it. I'm just saying talk about call. It christmas called part two so i'm going to get into the origins of the christmas cult so the christmas dates back to two hundred eighty ad when a young greek man named nicolas roam the streets of mira what is known as turkey sharing his great wealth with those in need nicholas like many leaders out. A troubled past had died during an epidemic. When nicholas was still young he became an orphan but his hardship. I'm sorry to interrupt epidemic. I couldn't figure out what. The epidemic leah took ancient history archaeology so true plague of justinian. Justin yanic plague was at the beginning of the first plague. Pandemic the world plague contagious disease caused by the bacterium. Your scindia estes. The disease affected the entire mediterranean basin europe and the near east affecting the susannah empire roman empire in especially its apple. The plague was named for the roman empire at the time he killed a fifth of the population at the capital to do though is apparently a similar bacterium to what was responsible for the black death. But it's not exact same or they don't think it was the exact same one. Okay interesting still killed A bunch of people. So we can maybe assume it's that like your hands would get an aquatic parts of your body. Would fall off you lose the nerve endings. I like to think nicholas killed his parents. Why would he kill his parents. Josh i don't know now he's he's pretty good guy at this point. Need the context of the play. Okay said or was it. Fake like this current coronavirus. Oh god we're gonna get shut down so he became an orphan but his hardships inspired to help others who were also facing hard times. His parents had left nicholas with lofty inheritance with c. cheerlead shared with those around him distributing nearly all of his wealth to the poor. I mean most call leaders he starts out being charitable good. Helping people out doesn't sound just like jim jones just like almost every call doctor nicholas also lent a hand to children. Need one instance nicholas heard a father who had lost all his money due to according to the life of saint. Nicholas the plotting envy of satan. I don't know just what the coach said lost it to satan so he probably spent it gambling or drinking or some shit. Blame it on satan. Yeah why not l. sane. Without money he cannot afford to give dowries for his three daughters. No dowries meant no husbands for the three little girls who'd be forced to turn to prostitution instead when his suck to be so ugly that you couldn't even like your daughter away today's fairness if you're like a young single person in turkey or not turkey at this point and mirror. Yeah and you have the choice between a girl. That's like fine and another girl that's fine but has money coming with her depends on a number of factors personality is the last of the list. Are we talking though you're not marrying for love you're marrying for the goats bind your families together. I guess i don't know. I don't know super hot. Chick doesn't have a dowry plain. Jane has a diary. Let's last forever. That's fit note. Troop does Diminishing will feed you for lifetime. Will they will. They will kill strokes very decision. I think i think maybe A week s bitch better looking children. There's no or he was an alcoholic gambler. We're not sure yet. But i think we're putting a lot of blame on this guy. We just invested poorly business. Faulk him right and his daughter was there a lot of investments back then for sure. Okay that wall street. You have like texts from sumer. Run your business. That was like three thousand years. Well i'm call expert not a archaeologist expert. Are you ask me anything. This is i just feel like i mean if his daughters were hot we wouldn't be having this conversation. Yeah unwilling to let these three girls to come to the life on the streets nicholas secretly delivered them three bags of gold in the middle of the night just so that they could marry pretty good guy i mean. I don't know. I didn't help any of the other prostitutes out in this time but He helped those things like a. It's like you know they hadn't become prostitutes yet. You know what i mean. He was preventing what he saw to be a turned down a bad road. Those are the rich down about when you do. I mean we shouldn't help people who are better their lives. We just help people before they have the opportunity to ruin it. So it's confirmed that no and santa hate prostitutes hurt anyone look down upon. You know maybe are gone for help. Saint nicholas only got a couple of bags of gold to help the people who are already prostituting. You're gonna help the people who are yet to prostitute. What has the highest yield on that bag on this is this is this is science. This is business. Yes in another instance nicholas arrived in to find that the keeper was behaving strangely. The charitable man sense that something terrible had happened on instinct alone. He figured out that the keeper had murdered three boys and dismembered their bodies before stuffing them into barrels in the basement. I go off alone knowing that like. He's just got a gut feeling new murdered three kids. Have you been to a pub. Before and then immediately just suspected the owner had kids dismembered and perils in. Basement sketchy on few ethnic no. Let's talk about intuition. I don't know if you could say. Hey look i know. I know this guy did from ever met someone who knows like i was on an elevator. The other day and destroyed was already in the elevator from floor. Below when i got on and i walked in his is not my eyes and i just turned around and obviously your clothes but i was immediately aware that this was someone who was not trusted. If that makes sense it wasn't it wasn't necessarily about high was dressed or what he was carrying with him. It's just like my is. That has like i know that you're up to some shit. It was not not not the same as like an eye deflect like a a nod or that you know how why people go like. What should we do that like. It had nothing to do with any of that like his eyes. And i was like you could start some shit right now. Game recognize game. This elevator could get gnarly real bonelli. You you you you meet someone you're like. Oh yeah you're not a threat but you're brenton that weird wrestling part of your brain goes like that person could capable of. Should i can see it right. That's fair join Murdered kids no. But if i had to bet on black i would like i am elevator. Murder people l. My god both you and nicholas's instinct. Were right nicholas discovered the kids and was able to resurrect their corpses. Even after they'd been heavily mutilated. Your i mean nicholas are so similar. Carbon copies like magic. Yeah this is the first instance of you know like most calls have healing rituals others have like true telling the abilities sky can bring people back to life is the oj. Chris cringle story chris. Cringle story verified like this is what happened. Verified verified through stories. I wasn't there. So what is the firsthand lo and behold. I am not over many years old. I can't do math right now. But legend of the saint who helps children spread around europe and soon saint nicholas was known as one who brought gifts to children. What started as a gift of gold and the gift of life soon transformed into more traditional presence like toys balls and blocks from twelve hundred to fifteen hundred european celebrated saint nicholas day on the six th of december. So fun fact. It wasn't the twenty fifth login. They change it to the twenty fifth. Oh my gosh. Ruining story gifts were brought to children in the middle of the night supposedly by saint nicholas himself and families would have a feast in his honor. Parents told their children that saint nicholas would only bring them presents if they said their prayers. Were well behaved. If not their beloved jolly saint. Nick would bring them nothing. So we're already getting into the Devote following you know the the the punishment that follows if you don't obey him with so why why are they why they love. This is not doing gifts yet is he. He's just giving people gold if money and he's resurrect kids. Know you just yeah. He's giving gifts now. It's expanded on now that she's moved on from the important now. He's just giving toys. Yeah yeah not gonna live. I've worshipped dude with the money in the resurrection abilities. Shit about a horse. Well kids are simple. I guess they love the balls and toys. That sounded weird. I come. However once protestant reformation began in the fifteen hundreds saint nicholas was no longer worshipped. Still parents needed a way to bribe their children into compliance. So they told them that baby. Jesus would bring them presence on the twenty fifth. So we're on the twenty fifth now. And i think this concept is a lot more fun. I mean magin a baby flying around jumping into fireplace so because they became because the culture ship protestant religion became the religion thumbs com. That's why they no longer worshipped knicks. He wasn't kosher with the protestants theralac like we can't. We can't have this resurrecting. Yeah would have been. Yeah starting to forty four right. They're not yet in. Turn calling catholicism. I wouldn't imagine so. So they're like this is Barbaric celebration but everyone had kind of gotten used to it so they were like all right. Here's a bone jesus bring presence digital. They did a lot of that though. Like like so ask allison cast spreads right. You have all these temples where there's like all these other gods and so. They know that they can't just like throw it old statues. They got people coming in. They're like yeah. We'll keep statues. Were scam changed the the speech a little bit not non about these older gods anymore. It's not just one really cool guy but you can keep your statues and they just did that for a little bit and i just started slowly changing the decor overtime. All right. that's cool. Yeah exactly all right. I just want to make sure that i was on point with why did that. No no for sure. However the kids had a hard time believing that the baby jesus was going around. You know a baby. Jesus hardly seemed strong enough to carry gifts for an like an entire continent absorbed texts saying. I'm trying to get my kids to behave. But these protestant bitches. I this story. Jesus kids aren't buying it. I don't know what i'm gonna do is this like is this verified can be yes. Kids are having a hard time believing in the baby. Jesus I saw an article. That said quote yo. This new religion is status but yes it is Confirmed that the kids were as part of the part of the story. people are buying. Yeah yeah and actually it. Goes into like yeah. Kids can believe that the baby would punish them or do anything like that so it was hard to get them to behave and follow. The you know the rules of the cult. Sure yeah and so. Parents told their children that jesus would be accompanied on christmas by a big scary assistant. Who would carry the presence for good kids and take care of punishing the bad ones. These figures were based on saint nicholas. But much more threatening one. Such finger was rue clause or rough nicholas. Another was pens nickel or furry. Nicholas if children misbehave the punishment the hand of ru claws are pens. Nickel pell pels. Nickel nickel could rain from whipping to kidnapping the most famous of these beasely. Jesus sidekicks cramp is of course a half demon half goat children with sticks to get them to behave. If he doesn't he sends them to the underworld like almost every culture has santa claus. And i'm like an anti clause in like france mike stuff right right so are inch m. Ira backup a baby comes. I'm here for you just believe me. I don't believe you get crap. Like i forgive you but this guy is gonna send you to the underworld. He's going to ban. Jesus you seem reasonable. So while the rest of your welcomed these satanic. Christmas beasts with open arms. The netherlands were not so willing to give up on their beloved saint nicholas as they began to emigrate to the new world. They took their traditions of saint. Nicholas with them. Still though the numeral did not celebrate christmas the way we do today jerry fowler author of santa claus a biography christmas quote was celebrated as a kind of outdoor alcohol. Fueled rowdy community blow out. There was no particular magical gift bringer unquote so this sounds like the perfect christmas for new guys. Yeah going to say for you. And noah the sounds like a perfect christmas. It's always fun drinking wine on christmas every weekend at our house in university of alcohol christmas. It was like we had like. Let's have a hawaiian theme parks nineties like christmas. I'm reason of course. No cult leader can stay down for long and by the nineteenth century. His most loyal worshipers worked hard to bring back. Saint nicholas into the mainstream in eighteen. O nine washington irvine wrote knickerbockers history of new york. Which showed someone named nicholas who flew over rooftops dropping presents down for good good and boys and beating bad kids with a switch. Nice is abusive. it's better than sending your your ass to the underworld. We're we're getting we're getting. We're moving into a better direction. Then in eighteen. Twenty one and anonymous illustrated poem called. The children's friend showed the first modern portrayal of santa claus. The poem showed saint nicholas clad for. He had a little wagon and a pet reindeer to pull it. He gave presents to children. Who had been good for those who had been bad. He had a birch rod ready according to the poem. The rod directs a parent's hand to use when virtues. Pass his son refuses. Oh gosh people were just awful. The kids disciplined era parenting. Yeah i respected. In fact i'm encouraged hockey's kids today walk around like fuck you got how some god damn respect santa teacher case kids. Sometimes there's less authority on. Young people have less of authority over it. Yeah i would never be like oh brandom dude. Beats my kids with a rod. Kool totally down for that. Like you can get them to behave better. That's that's the thing that's believe in lying children not necessarily but if you do it absolutely sure absolutely. Premarital sex girls vaginas have teeth. Bite your dick not. Is it true now but will they parental sex. They'll probably think twice about. I don't know that it would've stopped me but he'll mike it's might be good. Some lies justify the ends. The means justified. The ends i i guess. I find firm firmly tilted in this the very next year in eighteen. Twenty two clinch carp more road visit from saint nicholas for his children today. The pieces more widely known as the night before christmas. There you go cnn. Hoses one in this portrayal. Saint make shit for my sister's baby in this portrayal. Saint nicholas drove a slade guided by eight reindeer and thus the patron saint of children had succeeded in becoming a sensational legend. A leader someone to be worshipped by children across the world and to top it all off in the twentieth century coca cola portrayed the saint as a jolly chubby grandfather in a red suit and hat with a long white beard. Coca cola was the first one that. Oh yeah yeah. They capped off the runway. Just a random. Coca-cola basically kelly knows santa. Today is coca cola's image of it. Wow i know how outright make you this long without general knowledge. I'm like the fourteen year old. That just found out. Santa was real news so hard at school. Because like i was in like grade three or four class like this week and or the week before christmas and so many kids were like santa's not real right like santa's real right and you're like yes doll soon. Saint nicholas was widely known as santa claus. santa was praised by his worshippers across the globe. He started songs movies. Books children created new traditions to honor him including leaving him milk and cookies and writing him letters relishing in his glory. Santa made appearances in malls where he invited children to sit on his lap so he could whisper every christmas in there and any child who misbehave santa made one thing clear. It may no longer be pc for him to smack kids with a rod. You can replace that. Ps five they had in mind with a lump of ugly useless coal. not quite beating. I guess it's better. We're gonna forget about the beatings now. I miss the og. Santa do kids and cramps resurrects gold. And that's baby. Jesus baby jesus indeed. Most cult members would never consider the group they joined to be occult members of the christmas called which is the largest cult in the world with billions of devout followers are no different. It's a holiday. Well anyone outside this call might find it odd that children are sitting on a bearded strangers lap at a mall and inviting him to come tumbling down their chimneys while they are asleep at night. These traditions are perfectly normal to santa worshippers as far as mom and dad are concerned. These bizarre borderline creepy rituals are the only things keeping the kids in line without santa their children. Back talking little brats on track for life of delinquency. Well no it might not feel like i can only speak from personal experience. I feel like maybe in the month of christmas it was like yo of santa but that only works still no one in like junior. I don't i don't santa's coming is like if you told me in june be good santa's counter The i don't think you have. I don't think you have the forethought that that's a lifetime could change between now and then you're a child. Fifteen minutes is forever. yeah. I don't know how much it really really affected. My behavior morality. It was my parents harsh harsh that kept me in line. They're birch rods. I don't know man. I'm still shook that call it made. Santa looks haven't really re rebounded from that wild with santa their children followed. The rules stayed quiet and grew up to be doctors and lawyers. Did you guys grow up to be doctors and lawyers. I don't know how much we're gonna leave in from before. But i'm a car sales honest nor nor would i want to be a doctor. A lawyer i'm out on the dr one. Yeah i'm out on research some on the on the lawyer one although i guess what is this podcast if i'm not sure you didn't know what the play was like research. You're not good at it. And i wouldn't recommend a career if i don't research it i don't know it. A certain parents in the christmas called are so afraid of misbehaving kids that they've gone to new levels to ensure their child's compliancy. Some have found that just telling kids that they're being watched as not an effective way to scare them. Children must know for certain that someone is watching them at all times making sure they never stray off the good path so parents created al cute though and they have it in like classrooms and then the kids are so excited to see where it is every day like. It's not creepy excuses and elf on the shelf. You change. he moves every day and he's like watching us w. santa thing yet your scare me with moving house so you itself l. Okay so i've heard the term on the shelf never gave it any mind. Because i thought it was just one of those things it was after we saw. It wasn't around when we were young new. It was only. It's only in schools at home but like a lot of teachers do it for a classroom mouth and a lot of kids like homes like in the morning one kid was like it was in the blender this morning sally. Where's waldo and the watching you and it changes positions everyday so like you try to do fun things with it like zip line across the kitchen or a lot of them. This year did like quarantine. They quarantined in their health moscow. Yeah creepy to me. So you perfectly summed up the next two paragraphs i is awesome. And yes he said. Children are excited to see. Alpha shelf tricked their kids into believing that being watched at all times. A good thing that it is something to look forward to. It seems that once again the youngest members of the cult are easiest to brainwash the lead up to christmas eve. The night that santa has promised children he will visit them in. Their homes is a big deal in the christmas cult for a whole month families. Prepare for their leaders visit from hanging socks on the fireplace to baking cookies to dressing in hand net sweaters depicting santa's face jam matching pajamas. Yet they hang lights on their house so that santa can't miss it some families in even use special calendars to count down the days of the big man's arrival just like eating chocolate. That's true. yeah. I mean Not far against christmas advent calendars though there should be some sort of advent calendar for the entire year. I it should be different. Things not just chocolate. 'cause obviously cheese advent calendars hard. Cheese would stay good for what a chore take in and out of the fridge everyday. I'm behind a few days. I get to get the december eleventh. Was my last chocolate catch on. I'm excited it's christmas and a few days i mean. She did admit that is the reason she has like the octave it know. I mean yeah. That's one thing that i actually enjoyed of christmas. From childhood was my. We were always have had been calendars and that was always like a fun part of the month for sure. I like to argue. Be more than the rest of it. That's the consistency this. There's more than one of these days and now the whole month celebrating makes sense. Because i'm getting open. This calendar every celebration. I understand like every night present the in the morning before school because it was like today a animals fucking rules. Okay chocolate in the evening. That's so true disagree. I was beat. No did you guys do the advent calendar like you light light. The advent candle one like. It's a catholic thing you know. It's because that's why it's called an ad mccown. I was just thinking about that because the period before. Christmas is adleman. The like. there's four adleman cat candles. I hope i'm right on this. Whatever you got. You're not catholic. Are you on no. We were fishing Every week and you know catholicism christian you ties you donate church my parents. My parents thought they were gonna take his church. You want them to live morally. Teach them important lessons and then it was actually my dad ahead. Our whole family stop going so he did really super well-meant in the nineties. In the tech bubble in the boom is on stuff there were just ten percent of your Into the church. And so the first couple of years an infant dave donating that in an is years went on he was like it was just like government raising your tax bracket or make a person asking for money like he was like a beggar. Type situation like every few months they'd be like hey you know israel good to donate more. If you haven't been doing well medallion. i've i've already done fifteen percent right on twenty. What are we doing here like. Is this about the community. You asked me for money. Every four months you got super frustrated by the better off just paying taxes to the point where he was like they're asking for more than the government is asking and it's not like he yielded or gave in with the frequency with which they asked us like how. How the fuck you supposed to do that in house that right. Yeah that's fact that wasn't it wasn't like it wasn't a cult right. It wasn't like a small subset of mainstream christianity. Big church lots people whole family. Everything now when i talk is like i should've kept you. Go you church. I made a mistake make money. Were terrible money. Money was spent on christmas. Eve finally comes. Children make sure that their parents turn off the fires in the chimney and in some cases lay pillows down in the fireplace to soften santa's fall children fight to stay awake so that they can steal a peak their rosy-cheeked friend but so far no child has managed to catch a glimpse. They say that's because when santa makes his way down the chimney he sprinkles sleep powder over children's beds to keep them sleeping so there's more magic heard of that. Also i i take objection to know kids ever seen it. There is a song that quotes says me kissing santa claus. So where the fuck did that. Come from josh. It was it. Was the kids. Dad dressed up as santa claus kissing again. Tell me that. I don't believe it. You're like this is a historical text is a is a primary source. The kids saw santa claus. He wrote it down. Was it you know what were you. The kid know to see santa claus the tooth fairy. I tried to stay awake for the thirty. That's when i found a fairy wasn't my my brother. After he found out santa claus wasn't real wrote a very strongly worded letter to my parents. I love now. My mom's still has it in her safe where she keeps jewelry and other. Obviously very ornate of funding. Then she'll never throw this letter because it is the most he's in pain in the marin lettered words that he's writing so he's he's younger i it's not it's to them but it's also like speaking past missed is talking to. I cannot believe by parents have lied to me my whole life. And if they've lied about this what else have. They lied about an are they being truthful at anything else the that they think that i would never find out that they thought this maybe out makes them sad. All and i would never lied to my children about anything. And oddly enough. He turned out to be the probably the best one on unfairly. The best more speaking. I don't know what that says about lying to your kids. But he was like eight or nine years older than i was when he found out but it hit him super hard. Yeah i mean. That's a reasonable age. I think to sister told me. Of course my friends that's relic yo. Santa's not real. And i was like i asked my parents said that cannot you know what no but you gotta keep live at the younger ones. I was like this was in highschool. Goddamn no you're sixteen. This my letter is much more strong. Yeah it was. It was directed at me though. Not on christmas morning eagerly await to find out if they were on santa's nice list or his dreaded naughty list they are on his nautilus heartbroken but glad at least that insane his old age he no longer has the strength to beat them kidnap them or send them to the underworld. A lump of coal seems pretty good in comparison in conclusion when saint nicholas. I saved three daughters from a life of prostitution and resurrected three dismembered boys from the dead. He likely could never have predicted that. One day he'd be worshiped as a jolly fatman in a red sued flying down chimneys and reminding children to be good or else. I like to think that the patron saint of children will be proud of this christmas icon. He's become if nothing else. Christmas cult reminds us that parents will do anything to keep their children in check. Who can blame them. Christmas is a stressful enough time. And the last thing parents need to deal with in between shoveling their card of the snow hitting the overcrowded shopping malls with the whiny kid talking about their parents leg. Let's just be glad. There are no longer threatening their kids with the wrath of cramps. i'm gonna teach kids only about crevice where joy or no belch nickel nickel nickel yemen will think it's wildest how much to change right. Oh yeah like i knew. Everyone has the origin of saint nick. The guy who has nothing to do with is going around giving toys his father. I thought it was like a small community. Who chris cringle like. Where did chris cringle. Come like what culture. I'm sure it was just a different culture. And maybe they just hide chris cringle solely associated with satan it because they are so similar it could be that could be there was maybe another guy named chris. Cringle that did similar things. And then it. Just kinda so webster's dictionary traces. Chris cringle back to the german chris. Gandhi creamed Meaning christ child's the first documented use in eighteen. Thirty cell he later. Yeah the christ child and saint nick. Ancient of merchants and children still share the same holiday phonetic areas a lot. Most cultures most different countries would have different names or stuff. Like that but yeah. How do you guys feel about the christmas cult. I think you focused a lot on meant to discipline kids when there's like so much more encompasses like it's like you have all the lights up and like i'm sure you could have done a bit about chopping down a living tree and putting it in your house but it's like i don't know it's just. I like christmas. Things christmas. Thank everyone always talks about the commercialization of any song stuff and how people feel obligated to buy and people spend money they don't have and all that we know about that but there but like ciano. Some of my favorite times with my family are like we lived in the up at her cottage for a number of years. We go chop down a small tree off the property and that was always like a great day with news. Always like my parents wouldn't go with us so as me my brother my sister snow pants and jackets and cold and we would go my sister choose the tree in my brother and i would chop down. We carry back. And i remember. Dodd was with all the time so there are aspects of christmas. Love bunch yet. Josh was a little bit. I think she was doing it. Mostly from my benefit. Listen if we call christmas a call. We could call basically any call. Or anything occult tradition or folklore. Anything that's like you could say. Halloween is call. Yeah i mean yeah. Kids dress up in mass spin on anything. Oh yeah yeah. I will say you said this episode is going to be great. I was a cult was was around christmas time or how to christmas theme to it and yes the whole author there are. I wanted something with scandal. I want something with murder on something with like that. Sexual deviant element. Okay an hour. Just talking about the origin of christmas and Historical podcasts has nothing to do with. Cults ashtrays weird. Today i'm going to let my weirdness out elsewhere on well god don't go into work today No you'll have to hop into another one. Yeah all there are there are tons of calls that whether it's murders and sexual deviance and and stuff i wanted i will say this. Is this a superfund. Yeah i like. I like the conversation. Talk about it i. I don't know that it'll be invited back. But i would love to be invited back. No definitely definitely definitely welcome to have both you back thank you. This was a fun. I liked having goes on. I wanted to make this You know holiday. One lighthearted one i could spend with you and Special thanks to you too for coming on appreciate it. Is there anything you'd like to say to my audience fred. Merry christmas start being syrupy new kids. Now i'm tired. I'm tired of. I'm tired of hearing it tired of seeing. It's when i go outside does a lack of responsibility and ethics. I'm now instead of incentivizing them to be good. Punish them for being bad or rough. Obviously a bit. you don't have a happy holidays. I hope your families are all doing well. Wow he's gonna suck not to see each other as much given the pandemic but do what you can just become too. Yeah well said. Noah santa can you fall holidays She's over the holidays. Feel bad about it. If you're loving this podcast be sure to give us a review and tell your friends about it. If you want to keep up to date with the podcast you follow us on twitter and instagram at. Let's underscore cult. You can follow our facebook page at facebook. Dot com slash. Let's start a called pod or you can go to let started called podcasts dot com and for newsletter and. I'm super excited for the new year. I have some new segments coming up. I'll be adding an ad free version of the episodes on my fi- mia coffee page. So if you like the show want support us without having to listen to ads you know. There's another option. I would also be upgrading. The youtube channel episodes so keep an eye out for that cnn spine. The scene sneak peeks of that. Thank you everyone for listening. 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East Jefferson, Tiny Homes Plus Detroit City FC

"<music> welcome to your daily detroit for friday august thirtieth twenty nineteen. I'm sven gossips and i'm jay air stays before we get started. We've slowed down the number of shots for this week but we haven't been slowing down. There is a lot. I mean a lot happening behind the scenes. Yeah that's right. We're in the process of setting up a new home base a true daily detroit headquarters if you will. We're being deliberately koi for now on the location but that's why show sounds a little different than it usually does. If you could see this room we're in now. You'd see some new sound panels that jair and cheyenne diane built for us last night there i would say they were their state of the art sound panels chair it. It's amazing what you can do with a little elbow grease and in that home the depot cardboard panel crappy plus jay. You've been dealing with moving into a new place. That's been an ongoing saga and me well. I've been carlos for the past several days all because my fifteen year old subaru well for all intents and purposes. It's dead it's done. I'm going to donate it to the car gods in in the sky that gives you and i yet another thing in common man amin heartless in the motor city that trip my man the bottom line all will be ready to go with your show on tuesday but enough of all this stuff. Let's dive into while you're here the stuff that happened around detroit right after this daily detroit is brought to you in part by repurpose. That's that's where you can get hired by. Detroit's best startups and companies repurpose connects top talent like you with purpose driven companies based on values experience and culture fit join their talent talent community at repurpose dot c._o. That's repurpose dot c._o. Detroit's jefferson chalmers neighborhood has seen better days but it's also the focus of lots of interest from developers nonprofits and city officials the east jefferson development company and the community development nonprofit. If it jefferson east has been holding a series of community engagement sessions this week they've been seeking input from neighborhood residents and others about what kinds of businesses businesses housing transportation and other public amenities they'd like to see in the business district and surrounding neighborhoods. Yours asian will present a draft master plan and for jefferson chalmers on friday night. Now we had an interview with josh l. ing of jefferson. He's back in twenty seventeen all about the increased interest in redevelopment development activity and willing to that in the show notes will also aim to reconnect with that organization for an update here in the coming week or so. It would be really good to do that because josh allen really dropped a lot of great gems the last time you talked to talk to him because there is a lot of things happening in that neighborhood that's near the border of grosse pointe one of the things i want to mention. It's happening over there too. Is this olma kitchen spot. That's opening up in an old like kresge five and time building that i remember actually i think it's a hardware store. When i lived over that way as a kid i would actually walk over there with my dad. I remember that whole area a lot of potential there man. That's that that <hes> business district there. There is beautiful. I mean they used to live year. You know an old time longtime eastside former east side or i should say i used to live over in grosse pointe and go through there all the time and i love of that business district there but man when i was there. There was really nothing going on there. I mean things really fell off. When i was about like nine or ten yeah <hes> it was it was definitely early life going downhill but i remember distinctly when i was about nine or ten everything like closing up for good <hes> but the new stuff that's going in. There is really exciting. <hes> this all my kitchen is i guess it's going to blend chinese and mexican cuisine with like american food so like a fusion place and it's going to open up in november. What do you think of that. I it. It sounds interesting. I mean we'll have to you know prove it's going to be in the pudding and india definitely a challenging neighborhood to operate a business but norma jean has been open for. I don't know what more than a year now i spot. I still haven't made it over. There and it's on my list. You know we're going to go over there for lunch one time until we found out that they don't serve lunch but you you know hey more power to them. We do the show over there some time now. It'd be a lot of that would be a lot of fun. There's so much great architecture to talk about the vanity ballroom. That's just gotten gotten a chance to tour a couple of times. We got some pictures up on the website. If you search it's really gorgeous so my friend went to one of these open houses the design open houses the other day and he he actually <hes> told me about what's going on over there and he said he was talking to a lot of the nearby residents who frankly expressed a little bit of skepticism about the vanity ballroom because you know they said structurally it's in really bad shape other than the facade which is still mostly intact and you know a lot of the people there said you know. I'm not sure what we would use this for me. People don't ballroom dance anymore well. I think that'd be a great thing to talk to. <hes> josh about an and i understand it. It's going to get <hes> some streetscape. Escape upgrades or are there is a good chance it will kind of like in that liver annoy style because we were just over there on the avenue of fashion that huge project that they're doing. They seem to be moving along along with it but it's making a pretty big impact. I feel like a streetscape improvement plan over there on jefferson. It'd be better to pull the band aid off and do it before too. Much momentum get started yeah and we talked about it. In previous show it's one of the <hes> commercial corridors identified under the <hes> strategic neighborhood fund that you know is doing <hes> liver noise. We mentioned <hes> the rosedale <hes> business district up in <hes> on grand river and so forth <hes> also. There's been talk about a new grocery store again. We'll we'll try to get some more information about it but but <hes> it's exciting news for sure a lot of folks over there will end up shopping either down <hes> like river band or they'll go up into the village grosse pointe point sur kroger there. There's a trader joe's which by the way this is completely apo of nothing. There's anything i think downtown detroit really needs. It's trader joe's that's where people actually shop transit writers in metro detroit now have the ability to pay for smart and d dot bus fare and soon the queue line offerman dedicated gated mobile app today's the release day for the dart app which enables users to bypasses that can be used to ride smart in the suburbs and d dot in the city off from their smartphone or mobile device. The queue line is supposed to join the app starting october first users download the app create an account and upload their payment information they can then purchase passes that they can then hold up and showed the bus drivers upon boarding passes are available for four twenty four hours or for seven thirty one days all it's standard or reduced fare rates. The app was created by passport which also developed the park detroit detroit mobile app for the city of detroit jerry. I gotta say park. Detroit is not my favorite parking app. I mean not that kind of sewer parking apps or anything but i do use you better call randy. We gotta get the artisanal parking app together. I mean i will say it works. It's just not as smooth and it has like a couple more steps than i think it really needs and i also don't appreciate the fact that it starts your session before you've actually said yes. I agree to all these terms which is kinda cheap but whatever but again it works it works fine and over look this is definitely a much needed and positive step for transit in metro detroit and one. You know that now that i am songs automobile i will definitely be using in the near future. A veritable town within a city of tiny homes is coming together in the dexter lynnwood neighbourhood. Thanks to cast community services services on thursday. The nonprofit announced that six new tiny homes and that's on top of all the ones that have been reported over last few years outlets around the country while six new homes have been constructed with six more tiny homes financed by corporate sponsor app attack. The homes are designed to give housing to low income residents through a rent to own plan. Future rounds of houses will be available for those with disabilities in larger families and i'll say this right here. They look great and i told lynn one with my dog. I will not be ashamed to admit it and here's the kicker about these. I think this is really kind of interesting. This isn't a government programs like this is not something that's like a bunch of grants or whatever ever cast reverend faith fowler is making it happen through donations of money materials and time. It's real grassroots. I would say right here. This is where you come in if you think this. This is a cool project. There is actually a fundraiser where they're doing tours of these tiny homes. I actually got to see some of the early rounds. They're really cool. They all have unique designs which is really exciting. It's it's really fun because i don't like houses that all look the same next to each other. I like the unique architecture of detroit neighborhoods and i liked the they keep that going so here's the deal for this fundraiser. This is not a paid ad this is just my personal plea because i think they're group <hes> for seventy five bucks for one ticket or one hundred hundred dollars for a pair. You can go on a guided tour and check them out for yourself and i'll say this. I'm one of those guys who watches big living in tiny house all the time on youtube so this is right up my alley yeah. There's a netflix started carrying a tiny home show. I can't remember it's called. I just watched a couple episodes of the night. It was sort of like a guilty pleasure but it was it was good. It's amazing amazing. They can fit in these listening because they get into you. Start thinking about the couple. That's moving in their from their big house and all their cluttering. You're like how is this. Is their marriage gonna last. Do they really we love each other that much. Well you can get a ticket and snag yourself. A spot at cass community dot org slash tiny homes. It's been awhile since since we checked in on detroit's city f c news so we called in our good friend fletcher sharp soccer correspondent and co host of the outer drive podcast to bring us up to speed fletcher electrical to see you again. Thanks for having me really appreciate you know the chance to talk more about soccer we <hes> we love your soccer. Insights man so okay <hes> pretty good start for city in in the <hes> n._p._s. Members cup tournaments so far two games into the season perfect record six points the only team in the members cup to post a perfect record. They got a two one win at home against chattanooga f._c. And then they went last week to out to california yeah and took a four nil drubbing against <hes> i should say they posted it for annual drubbing against napa valley fletcher. I mean based on these two early results. <hes> seems like <hes> cities in pretty good form. What what does it tell us about city and the members cup the field of teams <hes>. They're really clicking. They ended the season on a sad note but they they even then they still played well in that game and you can see <hes> coach really clicking going forward are the game and napa valley. It was four nothing after the first like twenty two minutes so they kind of put it in on a first gear after that kind of chill out and make sure that they enjoy time out there but you can tell when the game like really matters like they're just crushing over which is a good thing going forward for your <hes> your professional brand that you're trying to grow and to get a four four nil result all the way out in california and that was a late game owing to the time difference and everything late game. I mean th th that you wouldn't you would expect that to be a tough game given the the travel and the the late time and everything totally you'd expect a team to be kinda tired and i'm sure they probably had some fatigue from the travel and the time zone and everything but they still impose their will early on pretty soon the probably why only four nothing and not hire <hes> just because i'm sure the mental the physical fatigue mental teak set in and and maybe got some tired legs for as a result of travel meanwhile <hes> cities lost a couple longtime players who have announced their retirements from the team. Tell us about that. <hes> yeah et david edwardson who served as a captain for the last few couple years and <hes> harris who came to the michigan bucks became a big name <hes> on the defensive end became a fan favourite with windmill celebration or something i said earlier on when they when they became a professional team they'd be losing fan favorites who might not be the professional stage of their career learning more but we're still people they love because they gave passion so in order for them to get better as a team so people have to go. This is like the first real names you're seeing who are moving giving themselves. I know said i think traveled with them to napa or he pointed them in chattanooga one of those games i can. I saw his name on the roster but they're going to be seeing them a lot less. There'll be a lot. They'll be there for like friendly's. They'll be there and support but you won't be seeing them. Dress up and uh wear the armband or anything like that. Speaking of friendlies <hes> city is next next in action saturday night at key worth <hes> they're playing the home leg of a home and away stand against the philadelphia fury which is as part of the new league that <hes> city will be joining starting next season fletcher. What's <hes> what's sort of noteworthy about this friendly. Well the theory sorry have the same color as as the trade city so that's going to be interesting to see <hes> they they are a rebrand of the team from nineteen seventy eight which was actually co invested invested by rick wakeman peter frampton mick jagger and paul simon so wow that's pretty cool back from the north american soccer league of the new york cosmos knows palay <hes> era exactly so it's really good to get a a rebrand of the right way of a name. There've been a few older teen rebranded like bethlehem steel which was a really cool all for people who don't know one of the best lower league team to ever out of pennsylvania the readers can. I've done the wrong way so it's unfortunate. This is one of the ways where it's on the right way with independent team can actually grow itself continue the name brand so should be really great to see detroit battle against <hes> a its own independent. I team with a old flavor. Yeah very cool and we should mention the away leg. <hes> city will travel to philly to take on the philadelphia fury october twenty twenty six <hes> meanwhile fletcher nissan we mentioned <hes> the new league that city will be joining next season. <hes> announced a streaming deal l. with <hes> something called my cujo which <hes> for stephen king fans are no relation but <hes> wh what's the deal there have you ever taken taking a shower and like put shampoo on your hair and it got in your eyes and you're like i can't really see anything 'cause you have that's like better than the streaming rate of my cujo. Makuto is a phone and app for your t._v. Whether it's apple t._v. fire whatever <hes> where it allows you to stream games through other people people services so i know to trade city mainly uses <hes> youtube my cujo can latch onto that and make it its own sort of thing so it's able to be broadcast for everybody unfortunately unfortunately if the team who's running. It does not have like a good system. Mike cujo will just be terrible for them and most imp e._s._l. Teams don't i know the n._p._s. L. reset to do it because it made it fair for everybody. Because some people had legit professional productions like detroit city used to be part of fox sports and now to be fair they went to youtube so everyone gives my cujo <hes> <hes> and this whole past n._p._s. L. year everyone complained about it. Even the teams had good streaming services complained about it so does he nissa who's been taking some really great steps since rebranding go to new owners partner with them. It's a little mind boggling hopefully goes better with professional teams versus unprofessional teams but at the same time i'm like wow you risk taking a chance to have awful streaming service when your brand new league <hes> b word of mouth is great when you're coming up this could potentially damage it a little bit <hes> not so much because they still have some really great teams in there but i don't understand why you do that. Also they announced the same day that the u._s. S. l. the second division in american soccer partner with e._s._p._n. So looks really bad that they're getting like legit actual coverage with legit actual proper oppor frame rate in cameras and you are having someone film it with a literal periscope so i i don't know <hes> and it shares its name with a rabid dog of <hes> of celluloid fame did not know that but you know that's ever you've never seen cujo i have not it's pretty epic man all right fletcher man. Thanks for coming down as always sharon your soccer wisdom with us here <hes> in the new center park great to thanks for having me all right. That'll do it for today's show our last for the week. We'll be back at it in full force next week starting after the labor tejan gera- spinach any plans for the long labor day weekend ahead. There's lot going on around town as every labor day weekend here in detroit and you get the hamtramck labor day. Festival detroit jazz festival arts beats and eats up in royal oak. I'm sure i'm forgetting couple mentioned the tiny homes tour yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on. I might check out one show or something over at art speeds needs but hamtramck labor day festivals always yeah get yourself some dill pickle soup and perogie all right. Thanks for listening. Enjoy your weekend again. I'm jerry stays spend gossip. Take care of each other and we'll see you around detroit.

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The Matamoros Cult

Let's Start A Cult

1:10:59 hr | 11 months ago

The Matamoros Cult

"They ever wonder what terrible thing happened on this day. In true crime history. My name is carina. Be mr for writer and host of morning cup of murder your daily true crime podcast. The dives into what murder took place on today's date in history with over five hundred episodes about serial killers murderers colts and cold cases. There's always something new for you to enjoy morning. Cup of murder is the perfect addition to your morning routine. So if you like your coffee hot but your bones chilled. Start your day with a morning. Cup of murder. Subscribe on spotify apple podcasts. And everywhere else you listen amcham say hi on social media at cup of murder. Oh and remember stay safe. Hi my name is josh l. Hosa bullets Podcast you only podcast. That calls its audience read. That's right. I did a twitter poll a few weeks ago to find out. What call my audience and you wonderful. People chose not floral spread. Welcome fred now with out of the way. Let me introduce to you my guest this week. They are both hosts of the wonderful terrible people. Doing terrible things podcast. A podcast discusses into sex the terrible people throughout history and presents it in a hilarious and thought provoking conversation for mother theresa to henry ford. They've got you covered with the best of the worst and humanity. Please welcome to the family. Amanda and laura. Are you guys doing today. Good i am all set of well now. There are a lot of terrible people currently and in in history. Who's the person you can't wait to do an episode on. I want john casey. Because somebody did mention dressing up like clowns and we both like to to cost stuff. So i think that would be fun fun. Episode video for the episodes amended. How gosh i want to cover something kind of from my home state. There was this woman that i think almost had like a baby farm kinda situation where she was and then murdering the kids so i was like good job tennessee. I heard about that actually. Was it a long time ago. Yes yeah yeah she likes she did it for the money. She got from getting social security for the kids or whatever interesting. Lovely lovely woman. Well that is definitely on brand podcast. Speaking on sticking on brand. I wanted to have you guys on for this episode because it chose a a call with pretty terrible people and they do pretty terrible things so i figured it was perfect for you guys because son. Today's episode we'll be focusing on the matamoros called an organization that consisted of mexico's most powerful drug cartels in a desperate bid for protection and security. Its members turn to the devil and black magic murdering mutilating and sacrificing humans. You've heard of the matamoros called before just a little bit. Because i i think i've also been looking up like satanic ritual abuse killings. You know for other people to cover everything so i think i glanced at one of those and i was like ooh are. They still operating. Because i don't want to be murdered them. But you are safe. Dory there Spoilers they're not around. At least i haven't heard of this before this. Is anyone for me. Perfect it'll be interesting tale for you. Then so we'll start with the leaders of this call to explain a little bit more about their background on november first nineteen sixty two a fifteen year old immigrant woman name delia. Aurora gonzalez gave birth to a baby. Boy she christened adolfo which is very close to adolf. And i'm not sure if that's a or just poor parenting but looking at what we're talking about. I think it's probably foreshadowing little bit of both. I think she had originally come to the united states from cuba to seek a better life. One settled in miami florida though she found nothing but a sea of endless boyfriends and husbands. So that's that's florida for you off disagree. After her first husband adult those biological father had died. Delete moved with her young son to san juan puerto rico and married another man shortly afterward. A couple had a child together and by all accounts blended family was living an idyllic life. They were catholic with adolfo even serving as an altar boy during however he was also made to accompany delilah during her frequent trips to nearby haiti or the mother. Son duo immerse themselves in haitian votto of folk religion that combined beliefs with roman catholicism with traditional religion of west africa so quite a mix up. I wasn't sure there was going to be some allusion to voodoo haitian Down the catholic schism in the saints. Those are included in haitians practices. That could be how it's pronounced but it's it's spelled dod so i don't know it may be actually do i don't remove that sounds like a predecessor to voodoo like it. Sounds like it could be like the darker because of just like way worse. Even who's already like kind of like steeped in mystery and and stuff. But i have like a french accent. Sounds yeah. we're their french colonies. In haiti there are actually haiti's very french. So that's possible. Followers of haitian voodoo voodoo. Whatever we're calling it mainly worship that wa a collection of deities whom they believe as intermediaries between the human world and the supreme creator bonday. And i'm going to pronounce a lot of these words wrong. So i'm i apologize to anyone in the second half of our content. We've done that so many times. It's going to be most of this episode. In one of their most important ceremonies that are called to possess a certain individual through a frenzied ritual consisting of drumming singing and dancing fruit and the blood of sacrificed animals were also offered to these days in a bid to curry favor with bonday this exposure to haitian votto caused the young adolfo to develop a lifelong interest in folk religion of a similar kind after his stepfather passed away in nineteen seventy two. The family returned to miami or delete remarried again. Husband number three however was a drug dealer and follower of the religion called palo maybe also referred to as loss through gallus dick congo. Hallo miami bay originated among central africans. Who were enslaved and forced to work in the fields of cuba. They believed that all objects particularly sticks were infused with the powers of the compound. Ula spirits whose power was outranked only by the supreme being zombie kind of similar. Guess still very spiritual supernatural interesting powers from like a higher being exactly. Yeah central to the palo. Miami bay religion was the nagano nageykina. I'm gonna say i'm telling you that constantly so then the ghana was called either made of iron or clay and was believed to be inhabited by the spirits of the dead. Human skeletal remains were placed inside by the religions practitioners who are also referred to as palos along with other elements from nature all of which were said to entice the spirits of the deceased to come into the nagano. Erica work shamans is like a shamanic. It's a does sound kind of like tiger. Too like magic Stuff but i think it's probably just like different. There's so many different league innovations of face and everything like that could just be based. Yeah they could also probably be referred to like pretty similarly to shamans and i think shaman does come up here somewhere. I'm just not sure but Yeah it's it's definitely along those lines dead to your party is throw people at a by throw some herbs stuff yourself a nice soup next humans in an article entitled making it not gonna be getting god materiality and belief in the afro cuban religion of palo monte. What title the nagano is the dead. Man's materialization his new body so to speak and it allows them to regain some of the attributes specific to life. Such as growth needs desires in pleasures. Because it has the shape. The spirit embodied in the cauldron enables the palo to physically inactive interact with it to talk with it to touch it to feed it etc which makes religious experience in palo miami bay extremely rich on a sensory level in the minds of the people following this religion there and like they're essentially bring back the dead their minds. I mean it does sound like resurrection kind of ritual. Yeah it's very much. So and i don't know if it's more like a like a zombie thing or if it's just like a spirits at sounds more like spirits to be honest. Yeah not quite nick. Romance level below own wants to below mac. Romance necrophilia talk. You know. I mean that we've talked about this. We've talked about been decorative some contemporary practitioners of paulo. My mba make use of animal bones in lieu of human ones however there are still those who yearn to remain true to the religious roots digging up the remains of the dead in order to fully communicate with spirits. The practice was so widespread in cuba that the government was forced to introduce a law that punished grave robbers grave desecrators with a thirty year imprisonment ridiculous. That's a steep president for grave robbing. Dang yeah well. I mean i guess all here graveyards are getting like just torn up. Yeah that's probably pretty traumatizing for the local community. Yeah it's kind of funny that you can get more jail time for ruining a grave of someone who's already dead rather than killing someone. Getting twenty five is like manslaughter. Give jeevan jeevan last voluntarily manslaughter and stuff like that here. I know you may be thinking you remember thinking like well. That's cuba like no first world country would do that. And that's where you'd be wrong because the grisly tradition continues to this day. And according to the miami herald grave robbers at three cemeteries in south florida. In two thousand eighteen. Had been committed by followers of palo mayhem bay. So i guess yeah. Statements still stands. I don't know if you can call. Florida first world country. But i lose all my florida listeners. I what is the great the penis of the united states basically. Yeah i mean it looks like interior so they know what they did stay now by the time. He reached his teens. Adolfo was actively participating in palo miami even going so far as to become an apprentice to a local sorcerer. We're coming down the source or there like an ad in the newspaper for apprentice. Not definitely has a business card that says sourcerer out at bars says a local homeless man. He's like look i can do. Magic watch watch may just take some of this and he'll see magic is back solves. Here's some peyote have a great time. So he and his mother also engaged in a series of crime sprees with multiple arrests for minor offenses such as theft vandalism and shoplifting. Stanzas weren't well liked by their neighbors in miami often complained to the authorities of dead animals being left at their doorstep every time they confronted the family delete was even arrested by local authorities after she was reported for harbouring over twenty seven animals in their apartment when the police arrive the described the smaller residents to be smeared with blood and feces. Creating a smell. That was impossible to forget. That's lovely so. I guess they're ordering animals. Not only for originals. Go train to command. Just go shit on your neighbor. We decided to keep getting more animals because they kept getting more complaints will blend feces tends to to make a very potent smell. It's not often looked over by others. I can't say for from firsthand experience but I can imagine it wouldn't be wouldn't be great for sure. Probably similar to smell to the porta-pottys down in florida sitting cooking. Probably some blood in those. Now i'm gonna have to look up porta potty murders so thank you for that potty go. After graduating from high school adolfo moved to mexico city in one thousand nine hundred eighty four where he befriended martin tanna george monty and omar oria to make money the four men launched a business that capitalize on adult time as a sorcerer's apprentice. They sold magic spells. They claimed would bring good fortune to the customers. These were cast using rituals that involved sacrificing a wide range of animals from chickens and goats to the more exotic animals like zebras and lion cubs. Who was that's good. That's better question. We should derail this whole episode defined the zebras. Come upon zebra. Like i understand that. Apparently lions and tigers are everywhere and florida and is it oklahoma. Where tiger king or something. Yes that was oklahoma. But yet i bet they just painted horses look like zebras. And then sacrifices definitely the cheaper way of acquiring zebras much cheaper. Yeah yeah hard. This business proved to be a lucrative venture thanks to mexico city's residents and it wasn't long before the partners began attracting as different sort of clientele. Rich drug dealers hit men and the elite of the of mexican society. All of whom were enthralled by adult. Magic and ons. Byron displays introduced to the city's high-ranking government authorities and powerful narcotics cartels cementing his role as the enigmatic mystic of mexico city. That was so many difficult words. Well in the the alliteration mystic mystic something man. I can't say i can't. I'm not going to like a fortune. Teller said sourcres apprentice. I really couldn't help but laugh that stupid move apprentice and that's just what made me think of this guy with the rooms and stuff was magic broom dancing around so i think it's kind of telling like he's meaning high ranking government officials. So that just kind of how. I don't know if you'd say. Corrupt mexican government's were back in the eighties for sure i don't know about now. I'm not gonna speculate but definitely back then. They were a little bit corrupt and just shows you. How like how magic and that kinda stuff is ingrained in mexican society which is kind of kind of neat in that culture for sure but it is interesting that he's like getting introduced to like government officials and then maybe even the situation like in. Here's this hiring drug board right. You've got all these people in the same room. Their brothers like the the high ranking government official in the narcotics cartels. They're all brothers. They're all the same accountant. He's meth dealer their biggest customers. Though were mexico city's biggest drug cartels. Who often came to adolfo before smuggling runs or every time they had to in a turf war with another group they would ask for his blessing and protection wholeheartedly believing in his mystic powers and connection to the spiritual realm. So that's kind of cool gets the promise cartel members that you're going to protect them whether it's like being somebody's oracle lake. Yeah you're do great in this war and then like half your party dies and they're like well this theory funny. Sometimes you have to get really good at like coming up with what you're readings are so that when shit like that happens. They can't hold you accountable because all you said was some of you will is yet Horoscopes like real big remain cookie. Hey i mean you have enough people believing in some really matter if it's real or true that's very true and in fact the more people that you get to believe you the more true it becomes to them because they're like well all these other people believe it. So obviously he's credible exactly surrounded by dead cats and fake in an article published in the los angeles times. Quote costanzo practices magic in mexican high-society winning adherence with his ramona's to drain away evil and he took his religion born in the congo and changed it to meet his own needs including offering its protective spells. Drug dealers news article. Yes angeles time at the app. It's just funny and like mentioning drug cartels. Look at the good. He's doing for mexican society. Adolfo was openly bisexual and had an endless stream of lovers both male and female alike. They were all recruited to join his mystical organization. And before long they're referring to adolfo as al pacino or the godfather which. I think this might be controversy. But i think this version of the godfather would be maybe better than the original. Oh my gosh jink yeah this would be a great version of the godfather should be a predecessor. Exactly remake that now for the twenty first century. That's the story we'll do it. We'll make it down. So among these followers was college student name. Sarah eldoret and she got like wild name so sarah maria eldoret villarreal was born in nineteen sixty four to a middle class. Family in maduro sokoto. The town is situated near the country's border with the united states which meant it was easy for sarah to attend high school and later university in brownsville texas at the texas south most college sarah was known as an intelligent and athletic girl. She was a straight as student who was also part of the school's cheerleading team a tall brunette with an athletic build. She studied physical education with an intention of transferring to a larger university to earn a teaching certificate in the subject. Well liked in high regarded by your peers. Sarah seemed to be on her way to a comfortable and satisfying life but underneath this veneer. Perfection was a deep fascination with the occult and the mexican drug trade. I'm picturing like you know because she's cheerleader. Picturing like kim possible theme and like her saying like cheerleading practice by four and dangerous drug smuggling by five. Hey everyone's gotta have their hobbies right. Well that's true. That's true one of sarah of former classmates antonio zabaleta said quote. She sat on my anthropology class all semester and a student always present always friendly. I never saw her. Wear an emblem in ambulante or any sign of black magic. And i am trained to watch for such things. Never heard her. Ask a weird question even when we talked about weird religion unquote. I'm not sure what he means by was trained to watch for such things because that seems like a weird thank you train which source agencies yet -ffiliated with yeah training entail. What's one of the houses with is he. I don t harry potter like a raven. Klaasen me she lived a double life a great a college student by day and a witch by night. Every evening sarah would go home to her middle class neighborhood in not amoros where she would kneel before a blood splattered alter that. She had directed in her bedroom before turning in for bed. There is no way in hell. I could have had something like that in my room. God also where did the blood come from got smeared in your room. That's the carpets. Just probably half which. And she's got like a prime rib steak that she's used for the blood or something. It's not even like a real animal in rosetta. Plus before burning on the altar of crown interest in the occult and in the drug trade was deepened. Even more when sarah date eleo hernandez riviera the uncle of one of her classmates surfing hernandez garcia and one of the region's top drug runners to two men seraphin and ilya were part of the hernandez clan a large family who had made their fortune smuggling tons of marijuana across the border. So we're date your friends. Your friend's uncle's uncles always the creepy one. Ovaries you go to a barbecue barbecue. And you know. The uncle is the weirdo. You guys could probably do an episode on this guy alone. i would imagine. He's a pretty pretty awful guy which will get. According to the united press international. Their operations stretched from mexico to michigan. A massive sprawling drug empire headed by ellios. Older brother saul hernandez riviera. Lot of autumn aims. Were thrown around. But basically she's dating a brother of the head of a cartel in mexico when salt hernandez was assassinated in nineteen eighty-seven though you leo emerges the clans new leader which meant that sarah became even more entrenched in the illegal drug trade. She was exposed to his vast network of cartel bosses gangsters hitmen as well as clairvoyance from city as the head of the hernandez drug cartel. Leo often found himself in difficult and messy situations. Because you're the head of a drug. Or i don't know what you expect to messy situation like murdering pickle. Tim messy situation to me is like a traffic ticket. What is a messy situation for a drug cartel. maybe that's as messy situation. Because he's used to the killing and stuff like that he's like. Oh this is normal. But i hate doing my launch. Getting the blood out of it. I don't know the tricks. Is it vinegar or something you use. I dunno cold water cold something like that. Does anything truly roof blood. Just time i think or or fire fire. Yes yes very true. Whenever he found himself in messy situations he turned to adolfo. not just solis. But also supernatural help and guidance. It wasn't long. Before the rest of his family followed suit falling under the sway of adolfo whom they idolized and venerated he became their unofficial spiritual leader performing frequent animal sacrifices that claimed were part of a ritual that ensured their safety and the smooth flow of their operations well. He's helping stray population situation in mexico. I i guess. I mean i s but what a way to go at it optimistic way to look like. Maybe they're not starving to death. Maybe he's giving him a good home and feeding them at that. Sounds no on that one painting a bunch of horses to look like zebras and slaughtering them is what we've decided this. This organization is not run by peter. Baby come to find out. That's how pd keeps going ritual. Magic either. get mad at the rest killing animals. They need them all young to protect themselves evil. Also it's really easy to sell a product that you can't see like it seems really easy to just be like this is gonna make your really good and in reality. They're just doing well because they're killing the most he's like none of that was all me all and my source you're welcome. You're well established drug trade. It's it was me nothing else much later. The chicago tribune would report that quote. Constanza apparently told others that the sacrifices would act as a magical shield protecting their operations from police and bullets. Begging wild claims cast invulnerability. your yeah. I cast shield. And it's like no that's not sorry larvae is not Actual thing instead of card. It's a dead animal in gollner. Ability said castro's chicken adam how they activate their shields twos just like dead animal. That's it an animal money dead animal and the promise of the lifelong success and security. Was enticing with this guarantee. Adolfo was able to wrap the hernandez drug cartel around his finger and adolfo followers were fanatics fanatics but none more so than sarah who was later said to be the most zealous and the most mysterious of them. All some say that she and adolfo were involved. Romantically of this wasn't confirmed. And you know. Probably that's probable would say in open relationship that they all could be. It could very well be every happens behind. Closed doors or open doors true for others though she was just as bloodthirsty in as evil as he was if not more terrorists really painted integrate from cheerleader drug cartel than which potentially. What's better cheerleader trustor. That's that's the as part cheerleader. How do you have energy and be happy. I know you're arctic cheerleader. Hiding something underneath there. I know it really. Sarah was only twenty four years old when she entered adolfo cult but she quickly established herself. As one of the organization's leaders she was christened latina or the godmother and her relationship with elliot combined with her loyalty to adolfo led to the latter taking over as the head of the hernandez clan. That'd be a good prequel to the godfather of this movie franchise. We're trying to build out. I guess no. We're just spitballing ideas. Just some ideas. We'll get to netflix. Later on i'll take any. That's true i heard about cuties and not on board adults. His followers set up their base at rancho santa elena which was situated less than a mile from the border it was owned by the hernandez family. Which meant that. Their activities were free from prying eyes of the neighbors and the local authorities. Before moving to rancho santa lena had used old bones dug up from graves however he claimed that the spiritual protection offered by his rituals and the naganuma cauldron would be greater with live human sacrifices. So i think you can see where this is going you. Couldn't you didn't get enough from the gray for all being you couldn't. That's not enough phones for you. You need more than they to the freshman off you gotta kill rave too damn lazy for people like meat in the freezer for a while it gets freezer. Burn you want you want that fresh meat. So he's got to go get the hernandez clan members saw no reason to doubt their high priest and set to work abducting the rivals in the drug trade and corrupt cops who had reneged on their agreements with the cartel erupt erupt. And then they never mind. We're not going to help you. So now they're dead just 'cause they reneged on the deal does not mean that they are no longer for that just means. They're being corrupted somebody for another cartel hundred percent problem. Yeah i don't see many of them just being like no. I'm too old for this. I've realized the wrongs. I've done changed. So they brought these people back to the ranch where they were brutally tortured and slain. Adolfo would boiled there remains in ghana creating a foul concoction that his followers would then drink. They will drink this shit wild. Why would you does that. Have some of the same healing properties is on the phone broth bullshit. I'm seeing everywhere. I haven't heard of that. You are seeing now up so facebook. I have not seen stores. It's my grocery stores where it's like beef bone broth and it's like it's amazing. I don't know what but something kohl's is it's all it's all the old wives tales stuff. Yeah chicken how who've six you flu has been taken over by happened. Witches and now they're just brought new conspiracy theory to add to their drinking this this broth of of people juice and bones. They do so in the belief that would make them invisible and bulletproof. Which i think is ridiculous. We're back we're back to the bulletproof shifts like the two things you can easily miss. Prove to say one. Some of the people in their cartel have to have been shot right absolutely. They have since he's been on on the payroll as their shield provider. Somebody's got shot so once the excuse for you know we'll need both i give your invisible. They can't see you to shoot you and if the whole thing is that you just don't wanna get shy. Don't eat visible. Are you invisible to your comrades because We can see you. That's exactly what i was gonna. Yeah the they they can. You can see them well. How do you think you're invisible the other people. I don't understand that like in someone else's invisible you can see each other. It's about how it works. I magic. I forgot about that visible to anybody. Your enemy true. There's a lot of ways to spin that like in a way like. Oh no you won't be able to see that you're invisible. Only other people can not the people here other everyone else can. Yeah it's wild that That they think this but So some of them even fashion necklaces and the ambulance from the bones in vertebrates of their victims wearing these whenever going on drug runs is like a good luck. Charm rabbits or something or it just the enemy. Because they're covering the way you know what put gun down. Go ahead you pets. I'm just to go now you can. You can have the money all of this. All of this shit. Right here doesn't matter. I'll see you later actually know. Just never. don't follow me. I'm going pass michigan out of your range so please don't come after me going again. Do you think i got here. Running from the cartel. Eleo was christened as the organization's executioner priest so ilya would buried to sarah just to clear that up for everyone again. He's also sound like eric and like World of warcraft like executioner priest priest classes routes classes thanking sick language. What a nerd. I started going through the races. Actually giving you the word. You're looking for ilyas chest and arms were branded with marks that adolfo sacred and this title was well deserved because according to texas monthly ilia sent three of his men out to grab the first person they could find a fourteen year old boy looking for his lost goat. They threw a gunny sack over the boy's head and took him to eleo who promptly decapitated the boy with a machete never bothering to look at his face after the headless body flopped across the floor. Yulia was struck by something familiar. It was the boys gray and green football jersey. That was familiar to him and tear flooded. Ellios dark is as he reached for the gun sacked as he had just executed his own. Nephew you'll asana damned go to was looking for sacrifice that last night look look all nats armagh. Not for that kid. That's not karma for that kid. That's karma no. It depends football team us here seriously. Hey how do you go to your sister after that building. So what had happened was he was they were. I don't know if they ever told the sister they was kind of a secret. I think he went missing. He's gone goat though. You're well that's the important. Yeah exactly get went but it. All flows thirst for blood remained unsated by the drug dealers and dirty cops that they were sacrificing in early march nineteen eighty nine. He once again claim that the supernatural protection the hernandez clam had been enjoying until ben could be made even stronger. If an anglo mail. A typical gringo was to be sacrificed. I dunno. Gringo means is a canadian. What does that mean is it. Just kinda slang for white man is slang for for well for people who aren't neethling natives of the area so like anybody who doesn't like know anything or doesn't speak spanish or portuguese or wherever the area is i think that's just a slang in sounds cool gringo nonsense he's there hunting gringos now. So as it turned out mark. James kilroy of santa fe texas was exactly. The gringo. they were looking for. Mark was a college student at the university of texas in austin where he was studying to become a doctor on march tenth. Nineteen eighty-nine mark traveled with three of his friends. Bill huddleston bradley. More and brent martin to south padre island located on the coastal tip of texas the group plan to spend their days at the beach and their nights partying at one of the many clubs in town a typical spring break vacation for any college student. During the next few days markaz friends hit up practically every bar. They could find the wee hours of march fourteenth. Saw them on yet. Another drinking binge in the red light district of the border town matamoros accompanied by other intoxicated university students. And revelers this timely. It's elected a spot called loss sombreros. Which had the shortest line compared to the other nightclubs however this particular bar was frequented for a reason just a few months before in july nineteen eighty-eight. The son of the owner of another nightclub had been involved in a shootout at the club with the man known. As l w dooby at something like that. I'm one of the most fearsome members of the hernandez cartel and his name's debbie in good old w. w subsidy nickname for like a rubber to pronounce dhabi's name for water. I hope two in the morning the boys were all drunk and ready to call it a night but when bill returned from relieving himself it was surprised to find the inebriated brennan bradley unaccompanied by mark. Where did marco according to a dissertation written by victor gomez quote huddleston remembered seeing a man described as short with bushy moustache and a fresh round type scar on his left cheek motioning towards mark but he did not think much of it he believed it was someone who kilroy had nothing after huddleston return mark. Kilroy had mysteriously vanished. Although marks companions do not recall. Exactly what happened that night. It appears that the four of them were doing to call making it easy to take advantage of them. Bunch of drug white guys on the town never good recipe for a good thing. So i don't know. I don't know because i haven't studied it in a i'm also a man but i don't know if guys look after one another quite to the same extent that women do. They're drinking absolutely not no. I knew somebody who went to another country and party too much and was on a work thing and the rest of the people lost him. He lost his phone and he was gone. The whole night in an asian country unintended. No guys don't look out for each other markets that is social darwinism or something or people just letting kind of the like certain people in the group as men were not as worried about you know being raped or kidnapped so are two main things that are why women look out for each other so it is like a more you know you can handle yourself pretty much like you don't. There's not the same feeling of life need to buy we've cited mandate a bar like i worry as you should all and i get ston. Yeah i know i know. We've experiences nothing but no it's just a thing the ingrained in us for birth hack in watch out which is great commentary on men towards women. I guess the moral of that story and it just the lower ten percent that makes a bad name for everyone and their those guys on tender. Yeah yeah no any dating. Oh i could your stories for match where i met my husband. He was one of the good ones that didn't try to solicit things. So that's good. I had quite a few out. Okay cuban which is also where. I met my husband. I didn't better on rebelling efforts to locate mark or his body were led by his parents. Jim and helen along with a slew of government authorities including united states customs agent or on neck cameron county. Sheriff lieutenant george devito and one benitez elliott. The head of the mexican federal judicial police manmohan. Oh my god. These names are so long. Just make them shorter real tough centers anyway. Yeah like i get it. You're your cop you think your important. Just use a shorter name please. So the search lasted for weeks. Aided by extensive reports from national media. Jim and helen kilroy offered fifteen thousand reward for any information that would lead to their son's whereabouts despite the sizable sum only hoaxes and false tips. Cayman as the search dried up agent orrin neck. And sheriff lieutenant george. Devito came under fire from their superiors. Who wanted the two men to return to their former physicians than focus all their efforts on the disappearance of mark kilroy the publicity generated by the case as well as the lack of leads and the breakthroughs was ruining the reputation and image of local law enforcement agencies which is why both were made to drop the search. Because what's more important finding the person that's messing or your reputation. Yeah court i've star yelp reviews guys exactly. Yeah just when all hope seemed to be lost. Though one of adolfo cultists made a crucial mistake seraphin. Who is ilyas nephew and sarah's old classmate ran through a routine roadblock on the afternoon of april ninth nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine in a belief that the concoction he had been drinking made him bulletproof in invisible to the authority. Does it make the card miserable. now wonderful. I hope that they're just no one driving. I really want to see the person's face who thought they were invisible when they realized that they are not invisible or bulletproof can see me and they're just baffled. Baffled by the thought they totally believe it strongly that they think the cops have some special bullets. That can somehow effect bullet people. And i'm sure also has put that into their heads to. There are other opposing forces because no religion is good without an opposing force. Zebra blood dipped bullets. That can pierce through invisible invincibility. I guess however he was very much visible and accidentally led the authorities to rancho santa alina. The center of the cartels smuggling operations as search ensued which turned up thirty kilos of marijuana and other drug paraphernalia the american drug enforcement agencies in the rallies new. They hit the jackpot but for the superstitious mexican cops. The ranch held secrets far more sinister than cannabis. So this guy's an idiot you just lead them all the back to the accidentally re i thought he was going to get pullover in spill the beans. I didn't know he literally. Just let them to the police. You still think he's he's like oh the. Gmc me so he's driving off and taking them there while obviously they're using their seabrook lead dipped glasses home. that's true. Yeah yeah gives them twenty twenty site on invisible people known fact such a weird belief is such a. It's such a physical belief actually believe that you are invisible is such a physical belief that you have no like reinforcement of. You're just like well. He said it so it must be true cheese. The police officers had spotted a storage shed. That contained melted candles cigarette butts empty bottles and several greasy cauldrons proof that the spot had been used to worship the devil which i don't know if i would drawn that conclusion i would have been like. Oh they must been partying or something like that. But they're like it's must be the devil restaurants filled with greasy called or they're not like worship places the devil so this is wendy's the american lawman actually off their concerns but the commandment one benitez was firmly on their side. The ordered the investigation to be called off much to the distress of the americans until a local folk healer could be found to cleanse the site. The minute the minute has rich ritual concluded the search resumed. So they're like we gotta get this place. Blessed by a page. It sean man. It's pretty funny to me to like because Select the united states isn't heavily steeped in any kind of culture by and everything so for you but for firm belief to be so inundated who the politics. The police the local government like. That's that's not deep belief for cops to call off an investigation because they may feel superstitiously. Threatened is a pretty pretty wild pretty major. Yeah well in. That might be too. Why if the culture itself is that immersed in spirituality and the supernatural than it would be natural for him to be able to convince so many people that he is this practitioner of whatever the zoo the godfather mansi shit going on over here. Yeah that's that's very true. It's it's already ingrained so it's not much of a jump to go. Hey i can do magic. Yeah or you like. It wouldn't be that unusual. It's it'd be like for us in america. Having a like the faith ealing's that think about that in such a big subset of the population that believes in that or even modern day like conspiracy theories which is like leading to leaders who believe in these conspiracy theories to become empowered. So it's very much like it's the same thing they're all. They're all different kinds of call to know. Just history repeating itself over a burn. You and on senator here in georgia now. No we don't. Oh oh yeah no. I'm sorry. I blocked that out of my memory already said hey are fifteen donald frickin know what she poses with those photos but it's ridiculous canada. Yeah it's better off. I say to rate want storm lettuce. Canada does not wanna been trying. I've been trying to help me and my husband just moved to manitoba. Don't even know there's there's tons of room there but sorry manitoba so one of the ranch. Caretakers came forward and identified mark from the photograph. That have been shown to him saying that he'd seen the boy handcuffed. In the back of suburban new properties equipment yard meanwhile in matamoros jail cell leo and sarafin who had been among the four suspects arrested at the ranch confessed to kidnapping mark and witnessing his ritual. Sacrifice marks dead. Pretty pretty much. We knew that already. But it's confirmed. Yeah i think as soon as anybody from this cult laid their hands on him. It was over yet. So according to texas monthly seraphin told investigators that he had buried mark and he led the way to mark's grave which was marked by a piece of wire sticking out of the ground on the other end of the wire had been attached to mark spinal column so that when his body decomposed members of the cult could pull up the vertebrae to make a necklace necklace. Easy string they get mad. They came up with like a quick way to get the ball. Level of lake streamlined. The field and it's just like a ton of wires sticking out the ground. Ooh i don't like that. i'll say who is. The person had tied wire onto his vertebrae. Excuse me that's arts and crafts section of the the weird shed with those probably sarah cauldrons cheerleaders with a winning dated the laundry and she was kind of a second in command. Think i don't know if she was doing too much of the laundry butts. Feminism all that. When mark's body was uncovered commanded noticed that his legs have been cut off above the knees and ask seraphin if that was part of the ritual. No seraphin said it just made them easier to bury pretty straight to the point. I popped the legs in there on top of the rest of the body. I thought didn't they have to like kokomo or something so now they're just they just did they kill people they bury them in the ground and wait for their bones to come out. Yeah they've got really efficient with this making boil it down. Also how would that make it easier. You lie them flat. They would just be the same amount. Like i wouldn't be much harder. I can't i don't understand his because you burying them vertically his deep. Why are you screaming him up. Yeah about this your edit everything else no. This guy was the same more on the lead them all there. So he's like standing straight up. Then you know what he probably was told what time they had like as a joke by one of the other cartel people delayed. Yeah you have to bury people with you know their feet pointing down standing up. That's the only way that their souls can come up soul. Yeah yeah so does it. Every time they just have him around so they can play dig really deep. Yeah he has to paint the horses they tell them. That's how they get their stripes kind of feel bad for this guy. He's got an idiot. not too bad. I guess you know it was a horrible person i have. No mercy was seraphin and eleo in custody. The final pieces of the puzzle fell into place. Gradually the entire turn of events from mark's disappearance to his eventual murder came to light going back to the night of march fourteenth twenty year. Old seraphin had been serving the rowdy spring. Break crowd trying to spot the anglo mail that adolfo had made him to bring back for another ritual. Sacrifice seraphin had embraced. Apollo miami religion only a few months before in a bid to please his uncle however he hadn't known that he would be tasked with kidnapping people so that they could be used as sacrifices to the gods still he couldn't deny that it brought a slew of good fortune that cartels marijuana smuggling business boomed while his grades at the law enforcement. Major texas south most college has skyrocketed. So this dude was going to be a law enforcement. Accrediting his gray to ritual sacrifice. Study really gross. But it's got really good. yeah fun. The marijuana sales probably would have boomed anyway this eighty s. It's not the magic buddy. I'm sorry i. I personally wonder what his grades. Oh i gotta see. That's good for me. Like this guy is. He was failings not failing anymore. And i should say us what our law enforcement classes anyway actually took some fitness and fitness. I guess it depends on what. What kind of law enforcement. Because i mean. I have like a an associate's in criminal justice but it's supposedly just like law and steph link. That like depends on if he was like at the beginning of the stages just learning about leg. although i don't know really why any of the places that are teaching this in the area would bother teaching law because it doesn't seem to matter and he's already family with the cartels. I don't see the reason is great. Up was probably because his uncle like paint somebody who's like look i know he's stupid but he wants to. Police officers a indulge him. He wants to be a corrupt cop. It's his dream basically. Yeah i guess technically being in college learning law enforcement you're not technically hired by police force yet so it's not quite as bad but he's on the track being there and anybody who's studying law enforcement should be like you know corrupt or anything. That's part of the problem we already have. It's like maybe we should real that back. A little makes a here. It's more stricter on the curriculum. Yeah exactly yeah due to these these good fortunes happening. When seraphin is landed on the intoxicated mark kilroy there was no hesitation to be had. He successfully grabbed the university student and wrestled them into their pickup truck. Approximately twelve hours after he'd been abducted. Mark finally came face to face with adolfo. Adolfo and his followers wrap duct tape over mark's eyes and mouth before guiding him through a shed it would have smelled putrid like rotting meat after the many human sacrifices that had already been carried out before him which by this point from the apartment in florida. Aldolfas probably just used to this by now. This is just the smell he revels. Maybe even better. There's a fee seat more blood dead decomposing bodies. I'm not sure which smells worse. Decomposing flesh or feces. The kind of snow staying it will do a twitter poll. What are you saying shit a comp as with with others who had lost their life at the hand of adolfo and his loyal followers mark was cruelly slain his body parts were left to boil in ghana the broth consumed by the cultists wholeheartedly believed that they were being made indestructible by young american. So how many years had they been doing this to gain visibility and bulletproof nece now and somehow hadn't determined that this isn't working circle. Sounds a little small for me. Lengthy honest a go. We just recently did like you know heaven's gate and stuff like that co-leaders are pretty good at getting people to believe shit shifted their selling. Unfortunately they tend to be very charismatic. And then if you already have this analysis. I'm surprised one of them wasn't drunk one night and wasn't like near. You should each other and see if this were like. I'm just very surprisingly bulletproof. If you're shot by one of your own it's only against enemies there so many caveats that you can put on on any kind of invisible force that you're promising to give like. Oh well it doesn't work. In that scenario ari exactly just like how. American voting only works when certain people win. And it's not really only correct. Outcome is a certain person certain giant orange potato being relocated to the present. Gloria hillard run again in twenty twenty four. I will not comment okay. We can surfin hernandez garcia was made to dig up the land in the ranch for hours. He worked under the hot sun and at gunpoint by mid afternoon. he had uncovered over a dozen corpses. All of whom bore the colts brutal mutilation. So this is after everything's happened. They made him dig up graves. I guess just him just him. Authorities are making him to get an point. Yup the authorities are making him up all the they're like. Well you buried a bunch of people you're gonna dig 'em up. Now he's got dig his frigging seven foot owl's they're probably also heckling buried them to if he did do it fida it. This'll be ways. If you doug invert horizontally is interesting to me that the guy who only started like a couple months ago is the one who is being forced at gunpoint from this morbid religion. This guy gets all the ship gets. All the news caused a frenzy especially in the towns surrounding matamoros. The majority of which contained families are two. Who are still desperately searching for answers of missing people's they crowded around the ranch and the funeral home trying to identify their loved ones amid the sea of mangled bodies many of them had travelled hundreds of miles coming from their mountain villages and farflung communities bolstered by the hope of justice and more importantly closure among the identified bodies was that of fourteen year old. Jose louise and luis garcia who had vanished on february twenty fifth just weeks before mark kilroy had disappeared. Unlike mark though did not come from a well off family which is why no search parties and press conferences were held on his behalf. his parents couldn't even afford to buy a body bag for him to be buried in his sister said reporters he had no head. She had been the one to identify the body which had been decapitated which was also missing. Its lungs and brains. She then said it was chopped off on the side. But i knew him by the shirt he was wearing. It was gray and green his favorite football shirt. So yeah so this. Is the nephew of the guy. Of the whatever's stupid name was ill. You eat out victim also. So they're they're eating. They're consuming human rights At least removing them. That's bad well. Health ads like a whole nother layer of how this crazy may have his. We have blurred that you know eating the human brain. It's kind of put holes in your brain so makes sense. It also makes you invisible so i guess if you think. You were invisible. Maybe that's why this guy was an idiot. He just he hadn't learned object permanence. You could just covers is that. He's like homer visible. If i can't see no one else can see. That's like toddler logic. The young boys parents is a darrow. And eric hotta. We're far from enraged. Though according to texas monthly they seemed relieved and even at peace even going so far as to thank mark and his family. Erica garcia said if it weren't for the kilroy none of the other men including my son would have ever been found she said to a reporter from the brownsville herald. Which is not the take i would. I would be so pissed. Gotta be mad. Unfortunately i mean if he's been missing for long time a lot of times just not knowing way way worse than you. Don't just imagining what they could be. Currently could be alive. Could be suffering. You know so. I imagine it's just a relief to have any kind of answer even if it's not and they're making mark they're not thinking like the people who him. Yeah true true which happens to be there some sort of cousin or uncle or something like that so yeah he killed his and when the poor and like it just seems very like yeah. Yeah yeah clearly. They didn't communicate with that part of the family very much. And maybe the maybe the family did so because of this reason probably their man. We don't have anything to do with you. Your fricken eating people's bones and stuff. We don't like it. Well it's you know. Of course it when a white boy doesn't happen with the well because his parents had money to expand to make it happen because before they were just yeah targeting poor villagers or corrupt cops which in mexico. I don't know of corrupt cops going missing. No doubt cared. They were just like didn't show for work. We're i don't think at some mexican boys and girls to go missing and they do nothing about it. It's almost something that's just an accepted. Actually there have been many instances girls. It's the girls of yet. Lost girl girls. Eight states I think its border that he isn't it's border say with like Was missing and it was many many years before anything was ever brought about. It happens a lot. Yeah that's terrible. Make the mexican border like the canadian. Border butts nice much much less. Smuggling i guess i don't know god's that's just no good mexican gun laws true. I've never been to the canadian border. I don't know. I know. I don't know enough about the order i everyone's always bitching about it and wants to reinforce it with walls and they don't want the canadian out. I don't know i was a joke. There is a south park about canada putting up a quarter to keep american silenced. Joe that we make yes fair. Joke can't bring you and we'll make america pay for it because that's that's that's how it's supposed to work. Well this is happening. The manhunt was still underway for adolfo. And the rest of his followers would manage to escape in the raid is a or because they took their sweet ass time checking the premises showman. The only had the one guy gun quaint. Meanwhile they're just all scrambling getting their shit together and like heading out on their seabrook fake zerorez also invisible. They drink too so an abandoned safehouse uncovered some of sarah's close which led authorities to mistakenly believed that she had also been a victim of the cult's vicious rituals done them have ever imagined she was actually perpetrator. And one of the most zealous advocates adherence. I mean that's they never discover female serial killers and stuff because they like oh couldn't done matt that sex. The just like a women couldn't do that. They're not capable of such things dumb. Dumb women are horrible justice or just the ten percent the bottom of the barrel bear equally as bad as the men are just say the humans in general just been taught to do it and as backhanded passive aggressive. Instead of the violent three weeks after the discovery of the bodies at the ranch local authorities were able to track down the remaining called members surrounding the building where they were hiding. Adolfo became enraged. Iron is machine gun and throwing bundles of money out the window. Like the godfather just the stories writing itself. So is he like say okay. I'm gonna kill you or take all this money and leave like is he just trying both at the same time like four. He's got holes in his brain from eating other people's brains ada know what the hell he's doing yes realizing that all hope was lost. He ordered one of his followers cartel number named l. debbie to sacrifice him and his lover. Martin quintana rodriguez to their gods. After moment's hesitation compiled complied and fired. The machine gun instantly. Killing the two men minutes later law enforcement storm the room and the surviving members of the matamoros cult including sarah surrendered the reign of bloody satanic. Terror was finally over. The locals considered the ranch to be a bastion of black magic. The very place where the devil dwelled on a sunday afternoon law enforcement slipped inside the property and headed to the shed accompanied by a shaman. Salt was sprinkled. On the floor incantations were mumbled and the sign of the cross was made then. Gasoline was poured oliver the shed and it was burned to the ground erasing the tangible remnants of matamoros called for good as you said the only way to get rid of blood fire. Yeah i just. It's funny to me that they went in there and sprinkled salt. I and then they were like all right now. Burn it down. Burn it all all of it. Why even blessed. I just burn it. Yeah i don't know. I'm not a religious person so i'm not sure what the uh i couldn't i guess what i what i've always wondered what happens if you get the incantation wrong than the devil. Just pops up could be spirit like a faith healer or any shamir witch. because i'd be summoning the wrong shit. Because i can't even get my words out correctly half the time. Especially because like all incantations jeffer- often in play frickin land and shit like i know how to pronounce. Thatt's chain getting that right. I'll be summoned. Like a papa. John libary or something instead. I mean i'd be okay with that. It's your state farm asian. Been your extended warranty in conclusion. The matamoros called has been a source of fascination for many years. Thanks in part to how their activities blended together folk mysticism superstition and drugs. Mexico has always been associated with the intersection between christianity and the ancient indigenous religions which give birth to practices that involve magic spells amulets potions and shamans in this country. Magic is alive which is also means that the line between the human and the devil is often perceived to be blurred and even non-existent these beliefs were even more widespread in mexico during the eighties and it was common to see strings of garlic and pepper as well as white candles adorned in office space residential areas and even public places. These were items that were used to ward off evil. Something that nearly everyone in the country was interested in from peasants to celebrities. And even to the gangsters who belong to the nation's most fearsome drug cartels. Perhaps this is the reason why the hernandez clan fell underneath the spell of the high priestess aldo costanzo. They were willing to do whatever it took to keep their business operating and their family members alive even if it meant mutilating in sacrificing innocent humans to seal deals with the devil and that's all thoughts questions comments concerns. That's very interesting. When i realized i'd never heard about That pretend colts but it's very interesting. Just how deeply ingrained into the whole area. It was not just you know a lot of times into just a cult of just you know five hundred people or whatever believe something but for the entire areas a lot of reach kind of baffling unlike. I'd heard of mark kilroy. I'd heard of this cult is from seeing some article about him or his disappearance but i hadn't dug deep into the the story or anything that i don't know it's interesting to me like you. Were saying how. The members of the cult are so loyal to each other and so supported supported. How about one guy seraphin guy. Haven't dig the holes and barry everybody but like how they can have this kind of weird sense of loyalty and family and moral code kind of within themselves. And then just go around. Murdering people was it in the name of religion like still lack of regard for human life but only certain in life. Because you know your religion no you're cool. Everybody else sucks. And that's like a bit of the propaganda right like same thing with war like any war. Go fight against another country. It's the same thing you paint them. As the bad guy. And you're okay with that morally. Even though a lot of people who go to war are good. People get convinced that that person's trying to kill you and your family so go kill them. I so it's the same idea. Which is our weaknesses. The species i guess so and this is why it'll happen again and again and again and we follow authority too much and some situations and lead a terrible things. Yeah yeah that's true too. Yeah know where. The happy ending is to this but but They were just a good thing. they're not around anymore. I mean there's mexican cartels still obviously but oh yeah well those families get closure yeah with the mexican cartels. I mean until. There's a huge. Societal shift and the police aren't corrupt anymore and the economy is stabilized and it was probably just all of these different things that have to happen. It's it's something about it. Sustaining their culture and their economy. Probably but yet. So that's the. That's the matamoros cults. I appreciate you guys. Listen to that I'd like to thank again and manda for coming on once again. They're the terrible people. Doing terrible things podcast. If you wanna give a shoutout give some plugs feel free awesome. Where terrible people doing terrible things as josh said and we enjoy covering pretty much what it sounds like done some bad things. So you'll get your serial killers. We talk about call. It's a little bit. We covered mother teresa for our first episode. Kind just all over the place. Yeah we don't really know what we want. The mother theresa theresa episode was a great first episode. That's wild one to come out swinging with. I liked that so my mom said yes. She was like your mother. Teresa for your first. Like we're going theresa dammit. Jim thome you so yeah definitely go. Check them out Once again they're terrible people. Doing terrible things podcasts. Great podcasts and definitely give a give. Laura and amanda. You're you're listening. You're listens listeners. Listen i can't pronounce words ears old your subscription. So thanks again goes thank you so much. That was a lot of fun all right well until next time. We'll see you guys later by fred.

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Ep 222: Cucking, Bulls & Sex Clubs (Ft. Mr. Slithers & Mistress D)

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Ep 222: Cucking, Bulls & Sex Clubs (Ft. Mr. Slithers & Mistress D)

"Are you ready for best. Life minus the burnout. I'm zuri hall from nbc's access. Hollywood and my new podcast out. Happiness is all about the most important. Vip you you're the star of your life so own. It joins us each monday as we discuss relationships self care career and much more. Our podcast is for mindful ambitious. Diverse millennial women who are ready for more happiness laughter. Peace and purpose. now listen to hot. Happy message every week on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey with that. It's just hilarious. And i'm just making a show. Ya know that. I got up okay. Call carefully reckless all black affect network. That's the way. I tell all my business that y'all already know and catholic comment on other people's business it's respectable but messy at the same time so make sure you tune in listen carefully reckless every wednesday hump day. The iheartradio et apple podcasts. All wherever you get show podcast. Guess what decision. We're about to make horrible decisions. Locum guys to another episode of horrible decision. I'm mandy be and i am joined by clutch trying to insure yet. If we're we're years and you still don't like any in troy david intro. That man's trying to think. When i was quiet and you showed me know i liked the show. Which one do you like. The i hate when you do your weird frenchaccent. it's not. The moaning was really fun. Whatever the advertisers have an issue with us. This is it. We had our. I call them. They were like you're like our topless into show and we're still trying to figure out why people have an issue mind you bought out. Who who's the president other dot network who we had one shot to mattie who was the woman warrior that's right e- hukou shout to all of the black women down black effects work with. I'm no there's a whole lot more hall. There was only women. There was one white woman mattie and i just love how dali did not give a fuck that mattie was on the because i was embarrassed but you know your co workers. You know you've got a cool co worker. I was like yeah. I just can't understand how these people as we don't. Oh we know why and this shit is bullshit. We're working on it and mattie johnson. Yeah we're talking to them right now because they may seven. W what are greenville shirt on in the middle of the fucking strat dali. So we're happy for team saturday. You guys see why we have been mixing and blending it up with a lot of solo episode with specifically because we want to get back to the core of horrible decisions and it's talking about kink and the lifestyle and the space in normalizing things. I'm super excited for the guest that we have today. We phrase kinda we each other differently. Do a very shameless plug ten. Nine eleven pm. Sex sells on views. Is actually how i know our guests so you guys want to introduce yourselves. Only because being in the lifestyle nicknames. What do you want to go back. I also just know y'all but i don't think we ever even be like. Hey i call him the plug. Name the greeter so if you guys want to introduce yourself and then we'll get into also how an i know the two of you look. Yeah my name is is d but i go by mr st. Because i'm a professional dominatrix. I go by the manslaughters manslaughters. Yeah the man's list manslaughter. mark jackson. He's like the go. That man is like that man in the bad man. The man and the we Mr demand you guys are a couple. How long have you guys been together. Five years oh my high. When did you guys realize that you were like. Oh we nasty. We go to the club. Go real early on from the beginning in meat in the club. Did you know we didn't meet at the cloud now. A great story so I'm a lifestyle com and an old boyfriend of mine. We were in a female led relationship female lead rela- shelbyville they'll be knowing all these words. What does that mean now. A female relationship i mean. There's there's all different types of nuances and dynamics within it but a female led relationship is basically a relationship where the female makes most of the decisions Where i want one of them. Yeah okay So and my boyfriend at the time also happen to be a cook and a cook is a guy who's a partner It sleeps with other people and yeah in front of them not in front of them not to be afraid you now. it doesn't have to be So i tasked him to find me a ball and a bull is the man that the woman sleeps with and so he found slithers and stole. He's so you no no. No no no no. So that's what is giving. That's is not intentional unintentional. I mean but she'd happens he's actually happened. So you're the ball. And then how did they grow into roman so so we so we play together and then the guy and i actually broke up so when we broke up Actually he called me that day that we broke up and i remember this guy come like on the train on the platform and like tears coming. 'cause it's so fresh now's like i don't know if you want to still continue seeing each other because the dynamics no longer there and he goes well. Why don't we just continue to hang out and see where it goes. I was like okay cool and then the just that was it. That's how it happened. Oh we've been together. Since can you imagine if like not the same some hypothetical three and then you walk up with him and then he started walking the other girl then he ends up the girl and now they're in horrible decision. Now i gotta kill both of them. I never thought i'd be like so. I was trying to spice arshat shit up eight now autumn in do some things that i mean. You have to consider and we're definitely going to get into different things of the lifestyle but also in introducing the two of you. We met you guys recently as shooting her show success for us so elaborate on that so win we were shooting sex sells. There's an episode where we go to nsf. W you guys have heard from daniel. Saint and i don't know when air hopefully tonight but in the episode daniel had only talked to fuse. Everybody's busy. Even though i know him he did. Most of that. Connection and fuse basically was like daniel already has people that he knows. That's one hundred that he wants to talk to blah blah blah. So when i walk in you know how people have a presence to where you already know. So i i was supposed to like interview couples and stuff but i really wanted to interview people that looked like they should be there no shade. So i walk in the cameraman. I don't even know if he asked you. At this point he just is drawn to d and it was josh l. Tadashi just starts filming her getting ready and she looked so beautiful. It was like a great mirror. Shot like and What everybody had pre consent. They knew they were going to be filmed. There wasn't like anyone got shot like people that went to the event that i new and then when i walk in i see these man. That's my name for him. These mcdaniels like your perfect. I was like no. They know what they're doing on somebody that just like was not giving that he walked right up to me. It was like yeah. Do you want to smoke. You want this. You want that and then mandy tells me we have a guest coming on this the plug at the sex club and when i saw who it was and i was like oh. The one who immediately offered me drugs so literally. No i've been talking about how my partner. And i i mean shit for the last year we go probably at least twice a month like i feel alive but be my partner go to the club often and the joke was him calling him the plug and her. The greeter is because i feel ideas. Always somehow one of the first people. I see when i get there. And she's always dress. I come dressed normally regulars of the club either addressed or two piece outfit. No d always has some sort of lace or bondage or garter here always has just a very or sometimes nothing honestly depending how active. She's been by the time we get there. She may just have routine. You do washes episode on probably eighty percent of the time. I'm usually naked running around wearing an taylor. So like i literally said before. We started filming. This is probably the first time. I've seen fully hearing close at all. I feel like i know. More naked than enclosed guys watch excels when you watch it. I don't know if you make it part of the clip because it was just so salacious electrocuting a person. They say them. I'm not sure Her her her on a bed. And i remember So basically when you're filming right in in a space like this there's music going so there's only one sound person that can hear my mic. Nobody else can hear what i'm saying and basically the instructed me because you're just watching a camera follow through the sex club. They're telling me to speak about what i'm seeing and i look at d. Immediately as it is electric child fucking boom mic drunk laughing. I didn't know what else to say. Because i was not ready. First of all like. I said hi to her and it wasn't like she was rude but she was just like you know. P people are very serious and their in their role they they don't get too friendly and sweet and bubbly like they're just really in their mode and the next time i'll see her she electric somebody all so i'm gonna call you mistress t when i asked you i wanted to know if possibly you were the woman the very first time i went to. Nsf w with my partner We got there really early like ten and this was during covid were maybe he. Limited to like ten or fifteen people on. This was back when it was really really intimate and my first experience there with my partner we walk in. He was still doing a live cam. Show but the live cam show was the woman that i i. I'm not. I don't remember it. Was you but how to strap on with a cross dresser. Yeah that was me right. I was i was fucking you. Were fucking a guide yet. Hills on had lousy garters. And what's crazy was this was i was gonna take. I remember. he told his mind. You and my partner at the time maybe two months fresh and we was gonna actually take kalibbala after 'cause i just nuclear deal. Yeah y- like the him have never made it there because when we went to this space not only daniel so welcoming but we did talk to you. After and i was so scared that he was that that was gonna completely scaring away to see that type of kink pegging. Yeah you repegging on notice fucking pack the sign and i'm like this nigga. I'm about to send them. Because i had no idea that that's what was going on so long. And you're super dressed in your late texan my girl. Nice outfit. why you'll uses you guys as the you said these are like key users them like that but if i have a party and someone looks nervous at the party like oh my god you gotta demand. I want the well. I also real quick. Wanna get into mr slithers because i didn't get into the reason he's called the plug. Maybe my second my maybe second. By the second time i met him he came up. Introduced just was really. I love what you do. Just know that by the way if you need anything. I got you man wanted to smoke. I said i needed anything got. He's like you know what on me on the house. Here you go enjoy and from there anyone are brought in. He's always been like what's up. Are y'all good. Everything's good from drinks. We sat in chatted wagging you know. But he's just all lovey. And i don't think i've ever even seen you in action. Which is why. I said i've seen you always just around. But someone still talks to everyone whether they're intimate or not. Just still make everyone compromise. We forget sometimes that in a sex club you can just be. You are very nervous. Fuck needs at a like he like. I said i mean bar. They looked like you. I'd be like. I feel like he would take a look at my right mean. I like to sexualize myself so league at any moment i mean trying to if it's the shoelaces on my time i to what i put on like how intimate like in my whole thing is to deliver my sex. That's what i was born as as well and deliver the end. Deliver my sex. You know what. I mean so like whoa said show. That sex has until really from the beginning to the end. What you like what you would drives you with pleasure. You is with moves you to the next thing that you put that on because it makes you feel a certain way suspect. Don't make me feel that uncomfortable but you wanna feel cute though right exactly you want you want the extreme of cuteness so that you can feel like i'm doing something right right so you sexualizing yourself in this in this part or this person his right and for me i i just want to hone what i am how i feel so. I'm going to give you my feeling when i'm having sex with you. I wanna be feeling when cammie want wanna give you my feeling when i'm talking to you and so you know what you're getting when fucking with me because i'm is a decision. You're making a decision. I have a question for you about to sexualizing yourself. I want to get into your ethnicities. Because we've only had him four years. Maybe one or two asian women on. And i wanted to talk station have you. You like sexualizing yourself. We do too obvious Has there been a point where you felt like for either of you. Maybe that's happened and it was a little too much share for the people that may not be watching on you too. Can you share your ethnicities vietnamese Completely i am traditional meaning like my parents are both black period and period poop asked. There's no nothing else that same thing like what your hair. It's curly hair. Your lights can't say you gotta be mixed with traditional black welcome to blackness like if you if you don't understand blackness if you don't know your history or whatever or you just don't know anything outside of what your your parameter show then as your fault if do with me right like my situation is. I'm a country kid from a regular black background with who grew up with eloquence and That's it not. La question no black and asian couple. Like have you guys tell us about it. Maybe a situation. In where 'cause i'm really curious especially with you because dominance there's a stereotype with asian women being super super submissive. Yeah this is yeah. This is so different is for those. Go ahead gripe to tears you speak to that though maybe the what would what would it be called bitch. Asian women are are fattest. And when i became a professional dominatrix. That was something. I had to really be comfortable with And if someone wants to pay me for my look they're paying me for my look. Like i had to make peace with that and i did and it's five was more like i don't do very plays using the words and making it about opposed to like this asian girls hot. Yeah okay like they like me because of my look oh conflict fine. I'm okay with that outside of You know my work. There has been an instance. Where a person i had met at a sex party and he told me that he has a fetish for women. And i didn't know about this at the party. I played with him. He was fine he asked for my number. I was like okay. He's like you know. Can we go out and get coffee house again. He seemed pretty fine. And i was like sure. I'll i'll go out and have coffee with you. Not a problem. And then during when we were out he kept on saying. Oh i met this woman and you know she's asian so of course. I like her so at one point. I said i said so. You only like asian woman. Because they're asian not because of their person like i like you because of your person and i was like and i don't like you because you like me because i'm asian. How can he said it in front of you is. He said that invited me. And i said and. I responded back like that. And then he just kinda like was like a okay and then after that he continued to tighter. Talk to me. And i'm not. I'm not interested. I want to ask you as a black man. Because there's a lot of not only stigma with interracial dating of course specifically when it pertains to black men dating outside of their race. Have you had any pushback from choosing to to be with an asian woman for the last five years me make this very clear. I absolutely love black women. Like absolutely i don't i don't hold that emma in our household i don't i don't cuff that. I don't change it because she's asian. She happens to be the person that's suited for me like other than that blake. If i were to choose like off the cuff like do something off like a iraq is gonna be a black woman. I perceive that shit. But i love that ever heard somebody say that comfortably in front of their partner and he's like but she is still she super right like i can't do anything about make up right but like if i'm checking for somebody's going to be somebody. Blood is no topping. If i've ever been comfortable to say that around white guys that i fell in love with even though we now that never been able to. Even though it was true. I did love that person and i wanted them to know that but i thought me saying that would completely make them uncomfortable. It will then. I want to ask you. D is that a conversation he had. And how do you feel about now. He loves me for me. Which is what you said. That's why the problem was like the like me because of my race right. I love that and i mean i i love him because he has such strong values and morals and has high standards and he stands by them. You know and that is something that i really admire about him. And i'm comfortable. You know what it says you ain't it'll be with. I really believe what do you mean so in my opinion some people don't believe is trivial auto white women about to be mad. I don't care. Don't be talking about my mama color. Have a different understanding and allegiance to other minorities. And i think you can be that comfortable and obviously i don't know i'm saying i think it's a lot easier and acceptable because you both are minorities right so you get it system degree. Not that black woman shovel but a white girl here in the al-nil just say we don't like all right. That's what i heard edited by your. I feel uncomfortable saying that in front of a white guy. But i probably wouldn't allow not no dude or asian dude. I probably wouldn't okay. You know what i'm saying is the wake. I think it probably makes me feel like. I don't know the interaction. I've never been with white. Dick so i don't know what you're talking about but i did want to get into exploring swinger terms and lingo with the to because you introduced already bull which abo- is how he came in and your partner watch but he then took charge in the bedroom right. You take charge in the bedroom. So he added a bulding. Because you introduce that you are searching for a bull that mean so a bull is the person that the woman has like extra marital relationships with outside of her primer outside of her primary another one. I do want to say that. I got this from play. Full lifestyle dot com. If you guys want to look at the full list it'll be in the description of this episode. The other one and i want to ask if you guys have is a hall pass. A hall pass is a permission for a partner to have sex with another without the presence of his or her partner. Is that something that granted. I mean we do have that. But i don't call it a hall pal. What do you call it. I just i just call him fucking around. I mean okay. So let's speak to that. Neither one of us wants to hinder the other person's joy so like I'm here to protect your pleasure and never hinder your joy. Comparatively called will. Yeah for sure conversion very we former that for me I won't the woman that i'm with to be free like an i to my wildest. Fuck mike in refined. Why do you think that is you. Think it's because you're giver d- you genuinely feel the joy. You talked about this on patron actually so i i feel you and i wanna hear i personally don't like women are cowering because of fear of what's out there I like intensity personally so if the intense is going to be hard that she needs to be able to be high like she needs to be connected to the space and feel free that she can run around and do whatever she wants. That's good advice close because it's much more of an enlightened view of life than it is in the regular club or like your i. It's silly to like you can actually talk to somebody ida. I club completely naked happens happens. It happens more often than not like in. You're not even having sex with them. Not focused on their breast of their or pussy or or. Ask your focused on them because table. Hey guys have a lot of your life is still being lived at home. Then make your home as comfortable as possible. Refuge in a waste of a sex club a sex dungeon any of that your personal end zone. 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We love the money in relationships. We're going to edit yourself. We talk back every thursday on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts you ever have conversations with friends or even men that asked you even in this club. Like people believe i. Don't i mean we're all super open here but people think like maybe you don't love someone that much. If you can let them do this or how do you love someone so much and you can watch them with someone else like. Yeah what do you. What do what's your answer them i. I'm a huge voyeur. So for me. I love watching. People have sucks you know. it's live powered. it's great. And that's why i go to the sex clubs i actually think us fucking other. People enhances our relationship and deep as it. Isn't that crazy how that works for my first time to obey in a threesome. I interviewed the girl with her new boyfriend. Yeah on the patron of easy. But it's like you realize like oh my god. I love doing this with you having been this with you. When did you guys fall in love with the now. I mean. I've i told him when i first met him. Because we met before we engage and the first time i saw him i was like oh my pussy pot when i saw are i was so romantic. I get those things that we term that. I wanted to talk to you guys about and see if you had any familiar. Familiarity with is reconnection sex. So reconnection thanks for those of you. Who are curious is sex with your partner after a lifestyle encounter with others sometimes. It occurs immediately after you are out of the presence of others. Sometimes it is delayed into the next day or so this is sometimes referred to as reclamation sex in that you are reclaiming your partner as your own however since this term might be understood as ownership in some sense of your partner most swingers prefer the term is reconnection. Sex is this something that you guys see as be important after night at the club or do you make sure you and the night with each other. Is there any rules to that. Or with threesomes house. Reconnection with you guys I don't appear color. reconnection recap the night immediately. When we start walking out the door it's automatically having a conversation like which would like it could be after the moment happen soon as they walk away like yo. What happened you see them. Having i'm flip that like we just start going into little kids like like ooh show me. Tell me how you feel like show me. Show me yours. I'll show you mind situation. Tell you how. I feel about the situation or like me. I always want her to have the most intense time. Like because i somebody put it on her like oh please do you see him and taught the sex. I what is the. What is the most amount of partners you have had at one night and affects up. I would say three. Yeah okay three or four. What's your ideal nights together because we were talking about the term with you as cockle out today and you already on us about how you wanted to have a good time. Do you enjoy threesomes. Mfl or is your ideal thing you watching for both of you. If it's a different answer i do. I mean honestly. I'm probably the one participating much more than her. Okay what you've seen like. Probably it's not like actually the the true situation like i'm probably the one she loves to watch more than anything. Make more than more than me. I love to watch while doing participating so pleasing his where i love to pleasure so And she likes to watch me. Do that tackiest heat. We're gonna get into often illustrate so your ideal knighted a sex line together. It's not fucking each other We found each other all the time. That's like dick. I'd be like fuck you each other. I mean we. We usually get started like i. I would like to proclaim the title me and my me and defending how early we get there. We be the first ones active. Maybe you were the first ones that when you got there. We were probably already playing. And you have filed veterans out. There was another party going on like a rave one time of stairs. And i guess daniels a tour to the people the site pub and the house just monica while he was given a tour like better than what we do. What was crazy thing to the sex up. I feel like we do our intro. We say hi to everyone. Because now there's regulars were kind of regular like bombie. Depp nichols up all right. Come down so we'll have our drink. And then we get into within the hour where in our own world and get into your own world and that leads us to our vanilla ship. This comes from vice and really. It's an article on the beginners guide to sex clips. Now we've had a ton of conversations about sex clubs. But i want you guys to say Or you guys to give some advice on what you should do and things to think about before you get to the sex club so whether it's a conversation with your partner how you come prepared the things that should be in your purse before you're even at the sex club. What ambitions and things should you have in mind so we have a laundry list of things you know and we're like yeah preparation. Yeah we we call ourselves a couple of pros because lovely. We have like a sex bag. We have we. We're we're very comfortable so we know each other and what each other's desires. Are you know we already had those conversations over multiple times I think that before you go into a sex club and if you are even with your partner or not understand why are you going. What is the draw for you. To go here is it voyeurism exhibition. Just wanna get a new more a lot of sex when if whatever it is why are you here absolutely I think Setting your send your standard of pace like with your partner. Okay thank you You're one person may be much much further head in their personal development. Like of of sexualizing themselves like okay. I like makoko play. I want to have a threesome with a two women. I wanna have a m. f. Or whatever you would as you want to do but you be you need to be able to consistently communicate that even in real time. I'll say the last time that. I want to the sex club. I brought my homegirl with me. Shutout medina from cocktails. And i felt like i had to be a fucking therapist that night because there was a woman who was in love with medina and she took medina to the couch they played with each other and her man charts join a medina was like no and the girlfriend kept playing and i wish we could have captured. This wanted to on but audio fucked up but we talked about it. And i felt responsible to talk to the boyfriend because you could tell. They're both at the sex club. I think he wanted to experience more and yet the girlfriend was getting all of the pleasure and he did it and you could tell that he was getting upset and i was like this is going to be. This is going to have to be a conversation. I was like you breaking couples up a lot. But that's not the conversation honestly. I think a lot of men want their first three thunder so fucking press for it. Yeah so excited about it. I mean i don't know if this would have been there. I i mean i say that because i feel if you've been around the block ewing it medicine breath. He seemed to me upset. And i was like. I hadn't experienced but like for men to act like that to be that thirsty to be in it right now. You you must not be The only reason i say. Want their first reason so bad because the people even interviewed in the in the Fees episode all of the couples that i interviewed were had never been to nsf. W and every man was like three to when you go to a sex club especially that's worth nurse it comes at a cost so it's a little more costly than maybe your average night going to a club. If you're just getting drinks because entry feet you bring your own bottle you wanna eat like yeah and so. I think that there are some times expectations specifically for men to wanna be involved instead of just seeing their partner like you guys have enjoy themselves. Can you talk about a time that you know. Obviously you guys are friends of w and you love that space but like maybe early on in your relationship a sex club. Unc where you guys had a bad experience not necessarily the name of a club but just like whether something happened there whether the way they carried it on like what's something people should look out for. I think it any space is going to be bad experiences. okay Each person has their own set of standards and the next thing is the too rigid office of your of your expectations. Your expectations provide you with an imposition on. Another person may seek. You're impose your expectations than another person because you see some want in them that you're caring. What for them. You're not letting them come to the table as an offering to you like. Hey we are celebrating our here together. Let's have some sex. What about even just the venue itself or the way that the parties carried on could be better than nnw does better. I think that you know he liked look of my partners. Loves the looking at w. and the fact that you just kind of took illegally. There's different looks. It looks like a bar or it look like a beautiful law firm. you know. there's definitely different looks from each one. I've been to you guys prefer. Certainly i think for me intimacies and thing for like how it how the atmosphere goes from me. I don't music music sound. I'm very Auditory so if if it music's too loud and i can't have a conversation with the woman next to me then the problem You know what i mean. Like how do i get hurt. How do we get intimate. How do we have we. We re screaming agency china. I've never seen sex get carried on win person yelling at each other like i'm never seen that valid right so please help me out here space. Like she's supposed to feel comfortable. So i can say my peace and you yelling her ear. Yeah says that's not that ruin normally women even regular club that it becomes annoying. Because now i'm trying to hear you over loud and now you're just too close because i'm just bothered and you know i never even thought of that time. The loudness of the music the nuance of things is how you get your things. You know what i mean like. If you're these one liners everybody says sex. Right like billy how you have. It is why somebody wants you. Do you Find that 'cause there's not many single men i go to a second club too. Often we find it in terms of price. Okay all right so sex clubs offer a couple of rate and single men are higher ladies maybe for your super discounted rate But i wanna know because when couples are coming in and want to bring in a man or maybe another cock situation lack manufacture size. A lot Do you join other couples that are couples for like to tell us about that or maybe even your experience it. Maybe i really want a guy like that is I've had that experience. I don't particularly care for the experience I don't care for the bbc language. I hate them search it. I be sir. That's what i'm watching using it to find. You're using it to call like yet right. So i'm trying to find my people so i know they're using this the this button so i'm going to press the button to get what i need but the question is like if you feel the person's a bbc or something like that make their an appendage only like you will see like woman. Dates bbc husband loves it. Like you don't really gives them a whole solid holman name like oh person white guy crushes woman on whatever right. Bbc does this same action. Same thing you are an appendage. He's a solid person. Even how the porn is listed. Yeah so like. Let me let you know the bbc. That i have a how i get down as my intensity that that leaves them is how i is move is is what i do like. We've had conversation where big dicks do nothing for like big and feels like little because he has no intensity. We don't talk about that. Yeah big dicks. Don't don't always mean pleasurable always mean. I'm going to be pleased. Really are a lot of men that come in with a big dick. That's they need a agreed so we have this. Conversation is my intensity that gets them like knocked out or has there is in becker like oh excuse to the rise clutching fucking. She's around me. Let me get game plan to get down. So how i see. Sex is how committed do you enjoy being The or because you're the cooking your relationship like how. How did you go from the bullocks will your your intensity is your sensitivity right so you sensitivity embrace the same thing like being vulnerable and being braved the same thing. They're both on the same same plane right. So cold and boggles on the same plane like absolutely love watching her play. I don't feel like. I don't feel inferior at all like it. It intensifies who. I am I also prefer like i like. Nba staus make. So if you're gonna lie we in the league somebody show no not for fucking like show me you got skills these my fucking woman like so that i knew that under raise my fucking game two. That's a little bit sport fucking using connection wanted. You put intent behind us. i don't mean to diminish to that. I say but i don't have a love that there's a little oven there and i'll tell you why for sure is a power dynamic. Yeah because like. I've never got to have like a man that's got to watch someone else with me and then like oh hell no now. I got i hill feeling like i absolutely down after be good. No he's to be like that like when we go home. I i will be like tell me all the do you wanna fuck like to hear how wild your if this is crazy. This is the kind of dynamic that is weird for me so my relationship. He is very much you like him right now. And i'm just like okay. I'll be talking and now i'm like damn nick. Did you get my nicotine but when we talk. That's the thing he is like. You know. I know who you were before because i probably over share the partner in how many i had him and so he's never wanna feel like i'm holding you back and so when we go to those clubs he'd be like you're good go go and i'm like no i'm just gonna have you But also the fact that i love that you're saying he said the same thing like i know what i do in the bedroom like. I don't mind if someone else comes in and please you and i. I want to leave that into the hor d'oeuvres. Do you have any tips for couples that are interested in the cook or bowl dynamic. What would be your tips to someone considering they haven't done it yet but they've been talking about it. What would be your advice to a couple looking to engage in this as from the woman perspective and from the so for like is it the woman wanting us. Yeah okay be honest. I think that's one of the things that i would say. Is that if you are thinking about it. Just say hey. I've been really. I really want to try someone new. How how do you feel about that and start off that conversation. It's and then also the person receiving that is being secure within themselves to say okay. Let's sit down and not feel like it is a on who they are. You know when we first started dating and also going into sex clubs and things like that year we had a lot of conversations beforehand of what this means for our relationship. How do we feel if we're in a different situations you know. We've we've talked it out. And i think that's the most important thing is it all starts with a conversation. What was your first experience like like. Did you not even together. I mean oh. How'd you know this was your thing. I it seems like you've mastered it. You know what i mean. Yeah i mean you both are very confident right like of course we all have kingston got blake. Yeah how did you know you were into this. So i became a so. I discovered be being media since i came into a cake. And this was about six years ago and i had a domestic slave. He would come in and clean my house on one of them where you get them from ta. He loved it he he didn't pay for now. I was a lifestyle dumb. I wasn't a professional. So i mean. I'm still lifestyle dot com and i was actually getting ready to go on a date so i was so while he was cleaning up. I was kinda like figuring in what to wear things like that and he told me he was. Like you know. If there's any next time i would love to help you get ready to go on your date. And as soon as you said that i was like i won't be as soon as as soon as that obviously. Yeah i was like man. I would love to be in a relationship where i can go out and like you know day or fuck other man or do in leiva let you know that. That's so that is crazy right. I didn't know so. This was very early on me. Going through my discovery of king. So i didn't even know that there was a formal name. It wasn't until about a year later. When i was in my f- are that much. My boyfriend said well. I'm a bit of a cock. And i was like what is this. And he explained all my god had a name. It has dropped people. Like i think about that. You know you met someone and ended up with someone that's into. He should have an threesome. You guys found each other like do people smell it on. I think that you do earlier right here. It also comes conversations. You know who. You're comfortable in lieu. You just know can receive the information to where once you find someone that you know you can be yourself with in and out the bedroom. It's like this huge. You know weight lifted off your shoulders especially if the woman to be able to tell your partner. I really one other like i. Text me oriented. Mommy was coming over that day. And i said bay you believe when he was going to get pushed the at four. Am and that's the conversation. I didn't feel like i had to hide it from him. In those just the way to where you guys can enjoy each other without hiding things. I want to ask you before we get into fully before we get out of here What advice would you give to a man As far as confidence of maybe entering the cook situation where he doesn't feel emasculated. Don't live in your bravado. Like i note. I mean you minna. Fragile like like paper. Thin fred with water on it. The women women run the the sex arena like the matriarch society. So you have to understand that you're offering yourself as a pleasure. Okay here's who i am blah blah blah. Here's an women will say i'm drawn to you. I would like to sleep with you. Men men If they're looking for their women or looking for their women's likes looking for fantasy for her if they are absolutely have a a fetish for this for this a king. They're looking for a man that's going to be something they're willing probably would never get as someone who so dumb. What's your dynamic name inc in your relationship now because your girlfriend's a dumb do you feel that like you're there's like seriously like are you stopping at home. Do you feel well either. Was pleased with smart. Neither one of his. I don't consider myself dom or alpha oriented those things like me and they don't want to say the little things i've given you know what is giving this. She gives dom so that right. So that's also strange because you know of those dynamics to work especially for as long as it has. You don't really see too together. Like i've definitely become a sub with my mom being he is so it's weird because you guys still both have very dumb like energy right and this is what i'm saying to you like. We figured a way to bridge our likings in our in our fetishes and our kinks versus. You must do this or i must take this place on you. Like who are you alpha to during the day. Were you walking around telling what to do they outside of your job if you're if you're a boss like people i'm down on these like if you go on field or whatever like that either so i'm not exactly like my feelings to bridge my likeness with her right so that i can get what i need and she can get what she needs. She's like some points. He's very possessive for me. I need to be to have communication. So i can move through things talk about that because i'm possessive too but released to chelsea just with me and it comes with everyone in your the deal Know like not so. We'll let me explain like when i say possessive. I like a lot of like ownership of somebody and it's not necessarily possessor you can't Obviously like the partners. I've had the people. And i'm in an aug relationship with the possessiveness comes from this weird place and sometimes i can't explain it because i am this person or people will think i'm lying because they'll see me get possessive but i wanna know what the fuck you guys are on here because you allow each other to your thing. How does your possessiveness work. I mean i. I would say overall i mean i can get possessive in certain situations. That's that's the thing. Is he aware of those situations. Oh yeah i'm eyebrow he's he's aware and the thing is you know i love him pleasing other women because there's a lot of bad sex out there you know. He won the shares. Look what i got bitch and it's coming home with me that we are we there we there. I want you to feel this way. I want to be like. We have a kid who i'm going to. Pta meetings in like other women like girl. That's her husband. Like surreal like girl. I know and she just i was just gonna ask my guys marriage actually. Yeah absolutely. i love that. He said the pizza me. But so also so go back to that. The state and i love sharing him and i think that if i could make a woman realize like know that there are men out there that plea that was. That's not out there for them. That wanna please you awesome. You know like when her eyes roll back. Lubbock there with you girl. I see it It is when she feels that she can take. She wants to take him. How do you how do you know what makes you feel that way. Take a gut feeling. I want to have sex privately. Do you guys have privately with other people. We do have sex like without each other present. I've done that before But it's kind of like. I don't know it's like a feeling that i get that. They are sending messages to him privately. We have group. We have group tax for reason. I'm i love seeing her. Say oh i think he's high. Oh my god he fucked her so well that turns me on. But if you're doing it privately and saying you know is when i've always felt like that when there's no camaraderie you're almost like going to use the word. Sisterhood between the another girl like you always wanted to be free like friends but like most unique or most girls that i brought in on me like look are over the top. But they're very clear that they're like they're for me to or not even if they're not fucking with me but like that they get the dynamic. Yeah like the. They're talking to me. They're looking at me and then it's not a real approval like go suck dick now. They know that we've got something before they do it. They like the comfort. -bility i when people don't want that. That's when i'm on high alert. That's how i did not give them. That's that's how i feel. Is that when i feel that. They are not respectful of our our relationship. that's when the possessiveness and jealousy that you check the woman on or do you check him on to make shirt look he said. It's okay i she's sick some women but is really m- hey like and is I don't like her for specific reasons or This is what she did and like from me. I'm not in her perspective right so i'm not her. I'm possibly playing or doing something. We're i don't. I wasn't aware of what did you see. Ads like mean like let's be clear what's happening. You mean 'cause i she's my fun. Has this ever happened in the reverse. Where oh absolutely. Can't we tell her. i don't even know she knows. This isn't like jerry springer. Put the camera. We were actually in the last week or something like that. And it's rare that she your last week. I mean i'm thinking of the time it was. She was sitting in the front near the door so it wasn't even of the play areas like you said i still right and She comes up to me and she rum's my bag sits down next to me. And she's like. I want you to meet. This guy says like who's this nigger somebody you like being vulnerable. How you move forward. I i looked up. Okay she's like oh he plays basketball and this and that and whatever you know basketball player rundown right and i know you like to in blow blows and he's trying to make the connection to like make sure like i'm good like he likes the things you like. Here's the bridge aimed is going to be cool. Limit his me. Okay yeah i see. I see the move okay. Okay i see the move so she started like make. Sure i'm good. And she a key like turned away and she's like i wanna fuck him. Okay like why this do right. So in my mind i'm like oh and undefined out like why you wanna fuck this dude blake and honestly it was nothing like it was just weird how we get like that like why him you mean. And out of all the dues. We've seen multiple times. Why this dude. Like said that about your man to be no like one of those things like i was like you should look like okay but like this came out of nowhere right so she brought him to me which is a hold. You generally are well She's got together. Is that way. I'm always going for her. I'm always like what do i want. Wanna have a good time. You may be talking man. He does that when we there. And i'm like pay. I'm good you can go and have fine but he'd be asked me how. How often do you get to be wild. Honestly i am starting to think it's in your head now but i'll be honest with you. I think newly. I've been to the warriors with us. I think this is but this. Is someone that genuine. Like i said if. I met him at a different time. I used to go on this podcast and say i need a nigga who will let me keep all my whole right. But i'm saying that position where but he's fulfilling and everything to where. I don't need anything from anyone. I'm so fulfill you feel fulfil. Yeah i think most people but it don't mean all on my i just haven't been there. You're not area that she can. She has the option man. I like women who have options you. I don't want. I gotta get with this dude. That do like. I wanted to be like can do it. Because she chose me makes me but it takes a minute to kind of be together. And i think for anyone listening who sees this dynamic like people have asked me like what happened bay. Because i'm fucking other people and it's like the non monogamy has been there just that after two years. That's when i was kinda like okay. Now i really understand is now. There's a comfort ability. Now i know where it's going now. Fuck someone else without being scared because when someone tells you that very you kind of like no. But i love you. I want you to know. I love you like. Don't worry i'll need other. There's a lot of reassuring that comes with that. Yeah mannheim iraq both sides. I mean but he's been like. I don't want you to ever feel like i would look at you differently. I don't want you to you know. Feel as though i'm i'm going to judge you or think of you on a lower way because you decided to be with another partner and i think that's that was so amazing about. I'm so glad that we started this show to have these because cheating or having sex with another person. The dill breaker for so many people that they're fucking holding hands right now. It's funny because my cheating but not having sex. Another person might breakers cheating. It's different it's different level of betrayal. Don't mind me if we're into this space. Where i can genuinely tell you nigga. Text me and wanted this put the in. I offered to be flown out. But i didn't really want to go to have that level of honest conversations. You do feel betrayed when you're like brr. I'm so honest with you and you still felt the need to live. I let you fuck other people in front of me in you. Still chosen new ohama. That's almost it's not. You are a monogamous couple that and you have the urge. It's like you if you're monogamous. You knew you were breaking something you knew was gonna hurt me in some way and i'm not saying that lying protecting anyone but is more that you're lying in that situation but when lying goes on within open situation is like non-negotiable hey fam- jada pinkett smith here bringing your favorite red table. Talk episode podcast. Now i want to introduce you to the most important women in my life. My mom gammy. She's really old school. Never wanted you to be in that situation like not date will at all and then we have my daughter willow. I'm going to be like my ancestors. Just do what i need to do. Listen to the red table. Podcasts presented by facebook. Watch and westbrook audio on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast. The black effect podcast network is the world's largest podcast publisher dedicated to blacklist. And we have the most influential entrusted voices in black coachella coachella. We got conversations about law social justice mental health sports and music. Whatever you need we got you. Catch all your favorite in future favorite shows on the new black effect website. Visit us at black affect dot com. Everything all black all black. Everything is right there. It's the black thing can have you guys. Were quick to get out of here in in the sense of cuc and lifestyle and swinging counts as cheating in this space. Where technically we're open. Technically we swing technically. I know you're with other people. What then is cheating in this in the sense From i think Holding back your desire and not being able to work it out like are unwilling. Wilfing willingly willfully working it out lake. You can always move past jealousy. You can always resolve an issue if you're trying to hold it back this to me. That's like a cheat to the to our team like media and you wanna same team right. You're you get beat you've got to be baseline you need to work on this and you're working on this like we in a game though right you mean you like no. You're on the line. And when she came up there inside being he likes indirectly point to scope. You just like is is more of a teach me if you're not you're willing to work it out but you will continue to like sleep at other dudes while while we're going through the situation and i'm like what would you wanna tell me what's going with your desire or a global you like. Nah i to tell you. Don't have that but you fucking on the dude. You know what. I'm saying like randomly may swap them to jewish not in spite. Yeah when you're doing these things like i don't like non monogamy when the relationship isn't good right exactly exactly that. I'm not giving you an assist the truth like we're all non monogamous situations because dot com facility. So we're uncomfortable nominee. Just fuck someone else because we can't for granted. Oh okay. I liked that you said what about you. What would be considered cheating you them bitches those tax write about them all. I know i know everything. Yeah he shares everything with me. So i think she's got the power i don't yeah zero. I would say i would say the same thing. If he's like holding back if he she tells me something even though he knows it's going to make me upset over. Sharing is necessary in a question. I need to know because my friends all over share so none of them are in the dynamic that we did or that i meant or even the charring. What do you believe in over sharing in this type of non monogamous dynamic of a relationship. Not for me. I mean i consider myself an share but was like being able to share all me with her. Is that a problem right. Like i'm absolutely going to tell her everything that i possibly can so that we can have in more intense situation that we are like having the best time and we always she feels it. She can walk around like you. Man gives me all the deeds. I'll see what the beyond because breath. It's not like good sex. Granted like girls are shady. But it's just hard like honestly we've had even listeners comment abou- oh like your sex life perfect or you're talking about relationship being this way everything so perfect then it is these well. I'm saying even making that comment people don't find the perfect partner or things that they want so it is really hard to find someone that is just as four women is like we are when we're like like i use that term but that's essentially what are minute not doing it just in this way but like yeah i get it not get what was i mean. I am saying that disrespectfully initiatives. Like people who really like. Why can't i have that instead of celebrating for you right. And that's my thing is that you know why. Why can't you say that's amazing. I need to find someone like that. So the first thing someone just as where your brother there were your friends at instead. Like i'm gonna be gone. They really i mean. I just picked up a new best friend for sure and he can. He's very similar to me. Yeah they're very similar to me in the opera when they instagram county. He's really not for that. I love that shit me. He doesn't have the sell for you but at this point he has a small gets jealous because all the men who are in the lifestyle like a lot of them do not have thrown under really. I'm going to do the other day. Who at one eighty. And i was like damn into to because i don't care absolutely don't do any the x. Follower i was. We were talking about this before we came. Listen i understand about having google of foul do tons and tons of people but honestly if my followers really u her u three hundred topnotch women tell me how dope that is like cordy be mandy. Wheezy either people who follow him. If you could pick a top five hundred. I don't know where are you going. You're the top. You don't have any magister. Fiance has offense beyond say how they think Maybe like four hundred people in a different instrument would be three hundred something like that where she actually posts every day and it's like people she fox with like. I see a lot of celebrities have the nickname the league. That'd be hit me on a fifth i want. Who led. he pulls her perfect mandy fucking with him. We fuck miami know. Don't tell me you haven't met a guy. I have recently when i went to. La he had like eight hundred followers. We really pop in party. And i was like okay. 'cause you're swimming maybe your industry person. Maybe you're not. Maybe just cool people. When i click on his instagram. Just follow these random. Like much hot girls. They all followed exactly. I felt like such a very for sure. Maybe easier though i mean no i came nigga. Whatever you want. I'm just saying like the super maybe pool right you just like you. I would secret. 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Part 1: Adolf Hitler and The Nazi Party

Let's Start A Cult

42:02 min | 8 months ago

Part 1: Adolf Hitler and The Nazi Party

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Join me every tuesday wherever you listen to podcasts to get the inside scoop on some of the most interesting topics in a true crime world. I'm also very active on social media. You can find me on instagram at mut bucket facebook at bucket murdered and twitter at the murder bucket. Hi my name is josh l. host of the. Let's call podcast the podcast. That doesn't demand mass suicide from their listener. Every single other. Podcasts does so just know that you're safe here. Now that crazy claim out of the way. Let me introduce to you. My guess episode. You may know them from the amazingly popular showed dump found dead and you may know them as john room and his prophet or you may simply no them from their terrible puns. Please welcome back from excommunication. John and patrick gentlemen how you doing today. god intro. Was that josh. I'm kinda nervous of what's going like. What's in store for the next. How many minutes or hours. We're going to do this days. Well last time. I had you guys on. I managed to convince john that he was in fact john room. Which as we all know is a military jesus figure in the south pacific islands and that he needed to get back to his people. So john i have to ask. Have you made it back to the islands yet. Not yet because we still have quarantine going on. I do have intentions of going to pacific sometime this year. So my people i shall return is coming got. That's what she said. Blame blame it on. Cova da cove it because whatever everyone else is doing it. True amazon be like oh asari due to kobe your packages due to kobe. I will not be returning to my people. Yeah well. I'm glad you're here and i'm glad you're here as well patrick. But on the both of you for this one. Because today i need to discuss john rooms nemesis and the reason for john rooms entire existence. The in today's episode of the. Let's turn called. Podcast we will be telling the story of a young boy. From an impoverished austrian family managed to crawl his way to the top of an organization. That would later terrorize the entire european continent. And the world. This is the first part. In a two part series of adolf hitler and the nazi party. In down on that ladies and gentlemen we get cancelled. Episode i blame josh l. I'm taking it goes down with me. This is the mass suicide our careers so now you might be questioning. Why i'm doing an episode on hitler. Because he wasn't by definition a cult. Leader however i would argue that he had a similar rise to power much like leader ran the party. Much like a call eater. And i believe looking at the nazi party as a cult rather than a political party allows us to view it in a different lens and maybe see something new or learn something new you know. Do you guys agree. Or am i just being a crazy podcast today. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself. I definitely think what isn't it. Considered a coal. It's a colt kotei type of movement. Exactly he fits like all the descriptions of being a cult leader charismatic. Maybe it's too big. It was too big. Okay okay so it was too popular. Is that what you're trying to say coats. More mainstream underground enough down. So he was an adolf hipster coming already down. I'm always ready. Yeah i think because it's seen as more of a political party people just don't they don't look to see it as anything else but i could argue. It was definitely a cult. And i'm here to prove that to everyone in this part one all not in part one part two will prove more of it but you guys want to learn more or do you guys already know everything about hitler. I love to learn more. But i have a question for you josh shirt. Yeah did you specifically pick to brown people to do a story about hitler knowing down the aisle. He doesn't like us. Yeah i mean. I didn't think it was. My main connection. Was john room because he was a military leader in world war. Two which fought. Against hitler so i. That's why i wanted to have you guys on race did not come into good answer good answer. You're trying to mass suicide. My career all right. Let's jump into it. Adolf hitler was born on april twentieth. Eighteen eighty nine in a small austrian border. Town called brana 'em in both of his parents came from humble beginnings. His father elouise was the illegitimate son of a housemaid and worked as a state a customs official clara poll please bulls mike that adolph's mother was allah's third wife and this marriage produced a total of five children. Gustav ida auto eight off edmund and paula. unfortunately only two of them would make it into adulthood. Gustav and ida contracted diphtheria in december eighteen eighty seven and died within weeks of each other which is super unfortunate because diptheria was like it only came around him eighty four. I think so three years and and they got it and died from it on the other hand auto passed away soon after his birth while edmund only lived six years a so pretty terrible upbringing. Know having four of your siblings pass away or yeah four of your siblings. Pass away like right away. Got to suck. How do we know it wasn't him shaking the only child minutes into downloaded. And you got conspiracy theories derailing this whole script we gotta go god damn and we're just gonna fly. He was born on four twenty two true. That's true did hitler love. We'd all he on something to do something like that. He was on a lot of drugs a joke. But i'm not gonna do it. Throw it out. I'll cut it out if it's too terrible. Terrible all right all right. We'll cut all of this suit. The whole episodes chuck just redacted the whole thing. This is like ten page. Despite this string of tragedies and their impoverished circumstances the family made do in eighteen seventy six changed their last name to hitler which was the christian name of the man who married louise's mother marianne five years after his birth. It carried her maiden name schickel gruber all his life but eventually managed to establish is claim to her husband's surname. And i think it's kind of crazy and funny how close to having a racist tyrant named aid off schickel gruber strike the evilness. I think he was going for. When adolf was six father retired from government service and moved the family to linz the capital city of upper austria unable to stay idle he bought and sold arms raising beats and spending his free time drinking and local ends. The young adolf admired his father's work ethic however the too often didn't see eye-to-eye. I'll was an authoritarian and overbearing husband as well as an aggressive in a violent father. His wife was the exact opposite. Clara was reportedly quiet and solemn working throughout the day to keep the home in top shape to please her husband. She considered adolf her favorite child and he in turn dotted on his mother. This relationship was far from healthy though according to the american historian and scholar. Louis l snyder quote despite her love however he developed into a discontented and resentful child psychologically she unconsciously made him and through him the world would pay for her unhappiness with her husband. Adolph feared his strict father. A hard and difficult man who set pattern or the youngsters own brutal view of life there was a deep tension between two unbending wills. It is probable. That hitler's later fierce treds came in part from his hostility to his father. He learned early in life. That the right was always on the side of the stronger one and quote so it of a public service announcement. Don't be hostile towards your kids or they become adolf. Hitler adolf schickel gruber. Whatever sounds like a sausage now does does i was gonna say it. Sounds like the fucking villain from venus and verb incorporated. That was a great watch too much. Come on man. I got disney plus now right to a damn flexing disney plus two. Yeah right as a child. Adolf enjoyed playing games that involve fighting and reenacting battles scenes from the bower war. His father's authoritarian nature and love to give orders playing the role of commander responsible for rescuing south african farmers from english. Concentration camps so ironic. Yes down cheeses crust his favorite game however reportedly involved shooting a rat with an air gun. I mean i get. Rats are kind of gross but not enough to shoot it. Yeah as a child to they got nerf guns back in nineteen whatever like bb guns. I think so yeah. He's got a shot on him if he could hit a rat. That's true real true. Yeah i don't know that's that's the only thing i could find on it so i don't know if he was good at it or just really wanted to do it and couldn't couldn't hit them not sure. Despite a stellar academic performance in primary school adolf found himself increasingly disenchanted with his time in secondary school. He had been rolled in real schule which refers to an educational institution with a focus on science and technology. These subjects weren't adolph's forte though and it didn't take long for his grades to drop significantly and i don't blame mine plummeted if i was just doing science and math. Yeah sure more of a more of an arts degree guy more of a lunch guy so my best subject that's pair. I don't know. In addition to academics adolf social skills deteriorate as well as classmates refuse to accept him as one of their leaders and he despised his teachers whom he believed only aimed to stuff children's brains with facts and information rather than actually teaching them. And god damn does that. Not sound like every anti-science blogger on the internet and stuff my kids heads with facts and shit. He sounds like sheldon from big bang. Theory true the young sheldon or whatever that you for their part adolph's teachers also disliked him one of them. Dr edward humor later recalled the schoolboy as having definite talent but lacking self discipline with a cantankerous and lazy personality who demanded absolute subservience from his fellow pupils. A little bit of foreshadowing. There i think soon after his father's death in nineteen oh. Three eight off dropped out of secondary school and began pursuing his dream of becoming an artist however his plans were interrupted in one thousand nine hundred seven when his mother was diagnosed with breast. Cancer clara underwent an operation to remove the tumor in her chest however it was already too late with the cancer slowly spreading throughout her body. She became bedridden an eight off took to sleeping in an adjacent bedroom so that he could be summoned anytime she needed him. His mother's diseased derail his plans though in autumn of nineteen seven eight off traveled to vienna where he was joined by one of his friends. A man named gus intended to study viola at the city's academy of music on the other hand eight off sent a portfolio to the academy of fine arts but his drawings were found to be unsatisfactory and his application was turned down. This rejection stung even more when he found out that august had scored a place at the academy of music. So i know it's a mean that adolf gets rejected and turns into a tyrant but that's not one hundred percent true as we'll see like he gets rejected the first time in this kind of just that was shitty but whatever he moved on with his life he actually gets rejected twice which will talk about the second time later upon hearing that his mother was close to death. Eight off rush home to spend her final days by your side. Clara was in great pain during this time and while she refused to complain every grimace that crossed her face devastated or son to ease her condition. She was given a shot of morphine from time to time which was extremely grateful. The cancer was too much for her frail forty eight year old body though and on december twenty first nineteen seven clara passed away or death devastated. Eight off who wrote that quote. It was the conclusion of a long and painful illness which from the beginning left little hope of recovery yet. It was a dreadful blow particularly for me. I had honored my father by mother. I had loved and quote from then on. He reportedly carried a photograph of his mother wherever he went. I believe his mother's passing actually played a huge part in who adolf became because like she was kind of connection to humanity like she was only the one he truly loved and when she passed away. I think that that was the last thing that was grounding him to that so he sounded like he got this associated with himself. Yeah and i think that is because like once his mother was gone. He didn't really have anyone else he had have. Yeah august august or whatever his name is but he's too busy playing the viola or whatever the and it's a constant reminder that he didn't make it exactly he's like grech practicing when weird flex turn to a world war. I get it. You can hit the high notes. Fuck off exactly. I will kill you take over the world i will destroy. All the viol is so that no one in the future war was about about it aka but the people he just wanted all of a olas gone just happened at the people he killed. Have the vital wild conspiracy again number two from patrick. This has a chance to go really really bad and really bad slippery slope with us to around here. I cannot wait. Because i need those. After clara's death adolf returned to vienna where he lived with august despite the hustle and bustle of the cosmopolitan city. He found himself isolated from the rest of his peers. He was completely indifferent towards them. Ignoring even the women who expressed an interest in feeling lonely inject didn't adolf threw himself into books consuming a wide variety of literature that would eventually form the basis of ideology that would later. Make him infamous. So books are bad. That's the that's what i talk about. What i'm getting from. Read only consume podcasts. Google also began painting and drawing pen and ink copies of the ns tourist sites on cards. Which would then sell in taverns with an acquaintance named reinhold on shit amish reinhold honey shit. I sell antiquities as to be my twitter name. Reinhold honey shit. You're selling a rare antique here for you. Only twelve hundred dollars buy it today. In september one thousand nine hundred eighty eight off applied once again to the academy of fine arts where he was told that he was better suited to architecture. That's burn however is lack of school. Certificates made him ineligible for admission which enraged him to no end. This anger spurred him to leave the flat that he'd been sharing with august although with little money and no friends to turn to effectively became homeless. So patrick i think you're onto something he was like. I can't stand being around your viola anymore. It'd be homeless on august bought. I blame on aug very own subject to change. The month's name to fish gruber later. August would say quote choking with his cadillac hates. He would pour his fury over everything against mankind in general do not understand him who did not appreciate him and whom he was persecuted and cheated. I had the impression that adolf hitler became unbalanced. And could you imagine what. Hitler was like doing this thing. And taking over the world whenever an august sitting there like fucking knew it at home i knew it. I knew that. I wrote a song about it here. Listen for viola which is no longer there. He's still just hitler postcards saying fuck you. I still made it. You gotta be one of those postcards with the fucking music on it you. He's taking over half the world and he's just like god damnit august. Oh shit the summer of one thousand nine. Nine saw adolf hitler living on the streets of vienna. Fortunately he was able to find rooms at a charity hostel for men by the time. Winter rolled around that year. He also received call up papers to serve in the austro-hungarian army out of hatred for his native country. He ignored them. so he's he's turned true german. For some reason i'm not one hundred percent sure. Why but he's just like again. It was during doggiest in germany. Joined a fucking army because of august or vienna. Sorry it was. During his time in vienna. That adolf i became interested in politics. He was a fervent supporter of carl. Lugar the leader of the christian social party and the city mayor at the time later he would claim that his antisemitic views were influenced and developed by carl sentiments saying that he was made to acknowledge the vast difference between regular citizens and those who belong to the jewish race was of the opinion that the latter was dirty unclean and bore the marks of moral stain on their identity. But thank you. Carl forgiving this angry young male his antisemitic views. Fucking carl carl in one thousand nine hundred eighteen. He relocated to munich in the german state of bavaria. When world war one broke out. He successfully petitioned the king to allow them to volunteer in reserve infantry regiment despite his austrian citizenship this role meant that although he was far from the frontlines he was still present at several significant conflicts including in the battle of the psalm where he was wounded in the leg in nineteen eighteen. He was also temporarily blinded by a gas attack launched by the british during the battle of epa which reportedly reduces regimen from three thousand six hundred men to just six hundred and eleven. Like all those who survived this particular battle. Eight was promoted to the rank of lance corporal. I don't know what any of those titles mean. Sorry you do yeah. That's a marine rankle right here. So those are tough guys. I'm air force. So i just sit on a desk. Drone strike people. Yeah no big deal. It was just like drink. Your coffee death. I do not wish to shit on the military it me so many times already. I just don't want them to point their guns at canada. You know we love you guys. Focus on mexico where five eight off service in world war one earned him the iron cross first class and the black wound badge. Both of which indicated that germany was acknowledging the bravery that he exhibited on the battlefield by all accounts adolf enjoyed his time in the army. You relish the feeling of being part of a group that was fighting side by side for a common goal. Well this fellow soldiers perceived him as odd and peculiar is higher ups were impressed by his willingness to take on dangerous missions even if it put his life at great risk they just hand them gun and saying yeah. Go in there and i like this episode as not very. Is that german bro. Bora from yes. Yeah why european however a soldier from his regiment named hans mend later remember him as an isolated man who often sat in silence in a corner. This would be punctuated by sudden wherein adolf vehemently attacked jews and marksist whom he believed to be undermining germany's war effort. While recuperating from the loss of his vision in a hospital northeast of berlin he received news of the armistice followed by information that germany had officially declared its defeat similar to many other germans. He attributed this defeat to traders particularly jews whom he believed had been inefficiently patriotic and thus unable to bring the country to victory. But do you guys know who loves all people and will lead you to victory. Jesus was hoping to say john room but no actually the lovely products and services that support the show. The segway i want. My ads have better lead ins. But i talk about such terrible topics possible. Especially when you're talking about hitler hating the jews. But you've gotta shove that did not see that coming so please by a service products your ad having complained yet although we'll see after the nazi today's episode is presented by skin store for over twenty years. The skin store has been the number one destination for premium. 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He joined the fledgling german workers party which was an organization that aims to promote the interests of the proletariate. Well furthering german nationalism. Their work led him to believe that. Socialism and communism were both part of a larger jewish conspiracy idea that was exacerbated by the fact that the majority of the country's socialist leaders at the time or jewish including victor adler. Kurt eisner rosa luxemburg and eugene levy more than that though in nine hundred seventeen october revolution in russia was also led by choose such as leon trotsky and george dino via in aviv and this fascinating because i hear a lot of people who oppose socialism online saying things like hitler and the nazis were socialists. Which is very clearly false. They hated socialism. Well not quite the opposite but like they blamed the socialists for all their issues basically as well as the jewish capitalists of the society. So they didn't. They weren't capitalists and they weren't socialist. It's wild that a lot of right wingers say that. Nazis were socialists to castaway all socialism as a canadian with a lot of socialist political parties. Like it's not all bad. There's a lotta good. The stimulus checks were nice to some of some people. I know free healthcare. I don't know it's not the worst thing going back to the stimulus. Jet really get two thousand a month. Not one hundred percent. Sure because i didn't get it. But i think it was something like that. It was like yeah thousand each every other week or something like that. I think it's done now. Yeah yeah but. I think it's it might be rebranded something else because we're still locked down here so i'm not one hundred per censure hundred one time we got one hundred one time and then we got another six hundred towards the end of the year which maybe survived for eight months. That we've been down there like if you don't die from corona you'll die from starvation. Whatever out as either than st go bag playing viola or something you guys are like well at the very least. Can you pay us more. And they're like not on think so. I forgot where i heard it from. Someone told me that. Kennedy's given that two thousand dollars a month and now is like what. Yeah yeah it's It was around that for say six or eight months. And i'm not sure if they rebranded as something else. I'm not one hundred percent sure but it was people who are unemployed during that time so that it was not me sadly well not sadly i guess all of these coincidences led to believe that the jews were responsible for the downfall of europe's super powers and he constantly espouse this idea to members of the german workers party with his skilled orator fiery speech and innate charisma e quickly climbed the ranks of the organization to quote spartacus educational. Which as the name. I title spartacus. Educational code it off hitler who had been ignored. When you made political speeches now had a captive audience. The political climate had also changed. Germany was defeated and disillusioned country and quote after their resounding defeat. In the first world war germany had been forced to give away thirteen percent of its territory. Which meant that over. Six million of its population as well as a large percentage of raw materials was lost. The country was also made to financially compensate the allied nations which resulted in thirty eight percent of its national wealth being given away nineteen twenty eight off left. The army and began working for the german workers party fulltime. He was put in charge of his propaganda efforts which resulted in the organization being renamed the national socialist german workers party or the nazi party for short got the name is he was also responsible for the adoption of the ancient symbol of the hocken. Crews think that's how you pronounce it or the hooked cross as its emblem. This would later become known as the swastika. the very same insignia. That will forever be associated with the atrocities that adolf hitler and the nazis would commit and i mean as as a marketing perspective goes. He's he's kinda killing it. he's got a hit. One new symbol killing it. Jesus i had to. I'm sorry we're probably josh. Welcome to the dark side. If we go down we go down together. That's right adolf enjoyed. His role in the flourishing nazi party is nine hundred and twenty-five autobiographical manifesto mein kampf. He wrote that quote. I started out with the greatest enthusiasm and love for all at once. I was offered an opportunity of speaking before a larger audience and the thing that i had always presumed from pure feeling without knowing it was corroborated i could speak and i could boast of some success. In the course of my lectures i led many hundreds indeed thousands of comrades back to their people of the fatherland and quote. He is not a very. i mean. it's obvious translated from german. But it's the sentence structures very poor. By the end of the nineteen twenty one adolf hitler had become the de facto leader of the nazi party is speeches attracted former army officers most of whom were disgruntled and dissatisfied with how germany had been treated in the aftermath of world war one among them was a man named ernst rahm an army captain and a senior member of the bavarian free corpse our border patrol east in all of aid off. He recruited others to join the strong arm squad which officially became known as this. Oh no we're not going to pronounce that one essay strom trimboli or the essay ernst. Didn't know at the time but the esa would be instrumental in adolf hitler's rise to power and all that followed afterward. And that is it. For part one of adolf hitler and the nazi party which is just getting good. Stay tuned villar to the reckoning. You start sound like a tiktoker. 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I don't tell you all this make you feel bad for him because obviously we know no twenty shitty guy goes to show you that like a lot of people are a product of their environment and he's obviously a very clearly a product of his. He didn't just wake up. One day was like fiction home. Shit up today yeah. It's just it gives us some perspective of like anyone can become this if the conditions are right and they're given the right opportunities anyone can do terrible things which is scary if you really think about it but a warning for people it is it is a good morning and i think that's psycho very important. I know you had a guest host before that you guys talk about how important mental health is just like. Hey we don't know the next person that woke up like hitler one day and had a friend like august could be the next dictator. So this is like. 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Colonia Dignidad | Chile's Secret Nazi Cult

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Colonia Dignidad | Chile's Secret Nazi Cult

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Podcast podcast that discusses strange spooky stories from the past from unicorn horns to the devil. These girls cover it all please. Welcome to the covenant. Lindsey valenti lindsey. How're you doing today. i'm doing well. Thank you for having me awesome. Great to have you so in today's episode of the let's start cult. We will be discussing the story of colonia dignidad religious commun- established in the foothills of the chili's andes mountains to outsiders. It seems like a self sustaining christian community that strive to give back to the locals however it would later be revealed that it had ties to both nazi germany and the pinochet government which killed over three thousand people will a thousand more remain missing to this day. Now lindsey. you actually brought this call to my attention a few weeks ago. Where did you first hear about it. And what caught your interest about it. I think it was something where i went on wikipedia. I think and randomly was looking up cults. Why that's just kind of the weird kind of stuff i do and just in your free time just in my free time. I'm just like what some random weird colts i can look at today. So i'm google and this one came up and i was like. Oh my god this one has it all. It's like nazis chilly. Colts child abuse. Everything you need got all the heavy hitters was like. I need to let josh know about this. Yeah all and i appreciate you bring to my attention because it definitely is a very very weird called for sure and i think it's. It's pretty well known. I had heard a lot of. Nazis had gone to south america and built communities down there. I didn't know to what degree and this definitely opened my eyes to it. Oh yes quite a few of them. I actually have a a distant relative who also did the same thing so unfortunately oh interesting. Yeah i might have to ask you about that story after afterward or leaky on. Yes all right well without further ado let us jump into the colonia dignidad. Paul schaefer was born on december fourth. Nineteen twenty one in the town of trust dwarf in germany as a child he suffered from an accident that left him blind and he was forced to make do with the glass ride i although he would later pass it off as a wartime injury which sounds way cooler than maybe getting poked with a stack. I just want to know. What kind of accidentally did he had hit in the back of the head by a bat but yeah he was playing baseball and just took a took a baseball to the i didn't like that. During world war two he served under the nazi regime as a medic and an officer with the let wealth or german air force. Lutwa thank you yeah. I don't. I don't know why i would have that knowledge. Yes you seem to know a lot about the swearing that a nazi okay. Okay all right. When germany fell to the allied powers schafer decided to hide his nazi ties. And reinvented himself. As an evangelical preacher in particular he was a fan of the american preacher william and home who was also said to have a huge influence on jim jones. The leader of the infamous people's temple cult. So good tie into our first episode. Done done done. As an evangelical preacher schaefer promoted brown hans teaching in the west germany and garnered a sizable following of impoverished war widows and their children many of whom were refugees from east prussia which was occupied by the soviet union. He also found work as a youth leader in several church. Institutions and lindsey. What is the stigma amount around men who work with in the church. They tend to touch them. And that's good. Yeah that's right on the money and not in the fun way. No not as like picking them up and throwing them or would. I don't know how you play with kids. I have no idea hitting the back of the head with a baseball bat. You know the all staff usual tomfoolery. but Yeah chauffeur's tomfoolery was definitely illegal and he was fired from all of the churches. He worked at due to allegations that he was molesting underage boys and then he decided to try to open up his own orphanage however and luckily this venture failed when he was once again accused of sexually abusing minors so he seems like a great great guy so far. He's just an entrepreneur. he's just trying to do his thing just doing his. Darnedest at there in the world. One touching time god to avoid being arrested by authorities schaefer accompanied by a few of his followers fled west germany in nineteen sixty one and sought refuge in the middle east there. He was introduced to prominent chilean embassador. Who invited him to live. In chile at the time chile was under president. George alexandria whose administration granted shaffer a farm located a few kilometers outside the city of peril and chilies linear Liniers province sure. We'll go with the government's help. He bought a forty four hundred acre ranch located at the foot holes of the andy mountains and established a religious. Commune called collina dignidad which translates to dignity. Colin and we will soon see that it was anything but dignity sounds sounds like it's going to be on the up and up. Yes that's one way to put. Founded on william m bronze teaching colonia dignidad espoused principles like anti-communism and strict adherence to the bible given schafer's passed as a member of the hitler youth and an officer of the let. Oh god left quaff left while you got this one again lutwa. Thank you for help. Every every time on that one as religious commun- was also heavily influenced by nazism of course colonia dignified began with surprise. The nazi has influence colonia dignidad began with ten of schafer's original followers. But as the years passed its members swelled. This was field. By waves of immigrants from germany who were enticed by the communist way of living which involves sustainable. Agriculture practices and numerous charity works for the local population. However what they found upon arriving in chile was something else entirely. It always starts with the best of intentions like. Oh look at this. We're such good farmers. We give back to the locals. Were all i would say happy. I would say most usually do this one. He was like i touch kids and now i need to escape germany. But also nazism yes. I also want to expose the bible and nazism to definitely go hand in hand exactly. We are now going to dive into a bit of the life in in the cult itself so among the immigrants who came to the colonia dignidad hoping for a better life was helmet. Shaef rick and his wife emmy who sold their house in northern germany and flew to chile with their entire life savings schaefer. Ask them to hand over all their money. Which was the equivalent to twenty two thousand five hundred in terms of today's dollars which isn't a crazy amount. But i guess more turned. Germany is like you're not saving a lot. No so yeah. They must've been saving that for a long time before. Then is that yes. that's crazy. The couple was told that their stay was only temporary and that they were free to leave at any time they wanted. According to their son horst though quote they were tricked. They thought they would build a place where they would do. Good works and live like good christians. They found nothing but slavery and suffering and quote so very dark also such a cliche. You can leave anytime you want. Yea we took all your money but you're free to go whenever classic like the other members of colonial dignidad helmet and emmy were forced to endure sixteen hour long workdays in brutal conditions pausing for only a few minutes d. lunch there. Exhaustion was ignored by schafer. Who preached arbit- east goten didst or work as divine service to instill in them. The belief that their labor was for a higher cause. So work will set you. free i think is just. It's just a rebranded right. Yeah pretty much. Yeah this this is my take. I twist i'm new hitler. It's like new coke but worse copyright. If i by changing around a little bit however. This backbreaking work resulted in tons of crops. Which allowed the commune to flourish. Its members who referred to as kolanos managed to construct mills craft shops hen houses stables and a kitchen. There was even a hospital that had been established with the help of the subsidies granted by president asandra and his administration a two story building with sixty five beds a maternity ward and sterile operating rooms. The colony all india dignidad hospital was a modern marvel known for its excellent quality of care. It's patients consisted mostly of locals. Who were taken there by buses hired by the colonists. I just think it's fascinating that the hospital would be so nice for some reason. That just sounds really really creepy to me. I don't know why it's kind of a kick in the butt as an american a. You're like even they get free healthcare their slaves. Oh my god they get free healthcare and we're here with stomp have to wait for five days to get sewn up. jesus particular. The hospital's maternity ward was popular among the surrounding villages mainly because of its policy of supplying mothers with four and a half pounds of powdered milk. Every month for the first six years of their child's life for the locals. This gift was practically heavensent. Now actually learned recently in an episode of behind the bastards. I'm not sure if anyone listens to it but nestle used to do this practice where they would give young mothers milk for free but just to get them hooked on it so that they would keep using it. And then these poor villages didn't have the proper sanitary ways to make healthy powdered milk and so their children would get very sick and caused millions of children today around the world. So i'm not sure what what this is but It could god could be part of it. Go go listen to behind the bastards esley episode. It's it's good. It's talks about all of that cheese as we thought the whole flint michigan crisis was bad. Fuck will that is bad. But it's a different kind of bad. Colonia dignidad may have seen like a paradise for those who didn't live in it but for its call knows it was nothing but living hell besides forced labor and working them to exhaustion shaefer also used a complex system of social controls to ensure their total obedience for instance he encouraged colino to think of themselves as an extended family one whose relationship was based not on blood but rather on their devotion to him. Each member was required. Call schafer the permanent uncle. Which was the name he chosen for himself at. I'll give them props because it is better than most of the next time. I have heard from these leaders usually like just like an offset of god or jesus or the father like you went uncle. I appreciate that hermit. Uncle just sound even crappier. that's true. Yeah because there's the whole stigma of just cause. Just call him last year. Last like sponsors. Call him that exactly. According to the american scholar quote schaefer offered his flock to possibilities appear existence in the service of god. All that was required was the regular confession of sin. His followers proved eager to unload their guilt and their confessions personally received by schaeffer in a practice called seila sausage or care of the soul became the vehicle for their salvation end quote so the took place. Each day was schaefer summoning. The caller knows in small groups discussed their sins. He made the practice seem like their only chance of salvation however it actually served to put them under his thumb even more but telling him their deepest darkest secrets the members of the colonia dignidad gave their later more control of their lives. And a lot of cults do this where they have the open agroup decent advocation where you confess your stuff and then everybody knows about it so then they can use it to manipulate you more so straight from the playbook of jim jones or any of those other ones. Yeah he's such a such a great. Uncle uncle wouldn't do that he wouldn't. He wouldn't molest children not uncle lester. A like most other call an dignified destroyed familiar relationships to ensure that each member was loyal. only shaffer. princeton's couples were required to live apart. Any baby born in the communion spent the first few years living with nurses in the hospital. That's sell messed up. Oh yeah it's definitely messed up to divide families. Even more schaefer classified the colonise into several different levels. The baby's referred to the newborns and toddlers living in the hospital while children age six to fourteen were called the wedges. I don't know. I find that fight is is it just makes me think of those like seventies style wedge shoes. Oh i was. I was just thinking potato. Wedges i like yours better but potato just snacking. All they are is snack. Which is oh god. Leave the wedges alone back after wedges uncle last year upon reaching the age of sixteen they graduated in the army of salvation where they would stay until their mid thirties they would then be included in a group called the elder servants remaining there until their fifties upon which they were invited to join. In the komo's these levels were reserved for male members although females also progress through similar tears called the dragon's the field mice the women's group and the granny's which up until the granny's is like a good names. What were the dragons were they the wedges. Those must've been the wedges right. You would think those 'cause. I could see the field mice being the people that are in the serving in some sort of military capacity like maybe like the nurses or something that makes sense. So is it an actual army though. Well we we talk about that a little bit more. But they do have like armed people in the commun- we'll talk about it a little bit in the future. I'm sorry skipping ahead. I'm sorry that's okay. That's okay one more thing so i love how. They're called elder servants. When they're in their mid thirties. Yeah is that. When you're aarp card is going to sound as a twenty-seven-year-old that's not looking great for me. I'm gonna be elderly. Jesus i i would be considered an elder at right now. So you're almost komo's you're killing it. Oh yeah i have one foot in the comatose. it's your bad foot is the one that's arthritic. It's closest to being there. Besides removing familial ties shaefer also exhorted control upon the collina's stripping them of their individuality the only personal possessions allowed to them or their pajamas. A set of work close a set of leisure clothes and a week's supply of underwear. Everything else they supposedly owned including shoes was locked in a closet which they couldn't freely access so that's not nice. I love how they have to specify they have a week's worth of underwear. That's pretty good. I don't know if i have seven days to do laundry every six days and i'm also like leisure close. I immediately right here. Leisure close goto. Like heaven's gate where there were the the tracksuits. Yeah their leisure close. Yeah the the basketball team or whatever it was i also. I don't know when they had leisure because they were working sixteen hour days. Like i can't imagine there's much leisure timing exactly. I'm just picturing it like hanging on a hook in their room as like like mocking them like. Oh here's your leisure close. Never wear them. Yeah you can wear them for five minutes before you get into your pajamas before every day. Despite these hardships the majority of the colonists were totally devoted to schaefer. Who said to be a gifted and charismatic orator. They followed his every whim even when he forbade them from engaging in private conversations with each other and from leaving the communist property. Anyone caught violating. These rules was humiliated and severely punished well. Colonial dignidad consisted of both males and females. Women were largely treated as second-class citizens who sexuality could drive men wild and force them to stray from god because of this they were required to roll up their hair into tight buns where begi dresses that hide their bodies you know basically with texas is right now. No shit yeah. Let's just just saran wrap it all up so you just like board. We can't control ourselves so we'll control you. Yeah it's your fault. It's your fault that my penis gets hard. You need to to hide that. Hide your shame. Make yourself look as unattractive as possible. Yeah exactly so that. I feel better about myself. I definitely not insecure. Masculinity helped me not want you. Help me help. Not once you. That's my slogan to run this for me. Dunkel lester uncle lester. Hope you like bags. Because you're gonna address like one god for schaefer. Making the women appear as unattractive as possible was the best way to ensure that the colonist win engaged in sexual intercourse which he considered the devils tool. This is also the reason for the back breaking work that they were made to do by. Exhausting them in the workshops or the fields schaefer hope that their libidos would become so frustrated that it would kill their desire to have sex so they had kids so. I think that backfire kid. That is hysterical. But if you think about it like if he makes them so unattractive and makes it so you can't tell that they have breast and they're like severe features isn't he making them look like his ideal lake target audience. If you will children like children god they might not find you attractive. But i think you're beautiful. I love you the way you are in your bag. Close your bunny stretching today. I just i want. I don't want to be able to tell whether you're man or woman and then go from there you just an amorphous blob at this point. And that's how i want it. Despite these measures some calling still managed to fall in love and develop romantic relationships with each other however they were still subjected to schafer's whims. There were times when you've rooted couples to and have children or then often not. He forbade them from doing so. According to the american scholar quote when a man asks shaffer for the permission to marry he entered into a game of sexual roulette. Schaefer might grantham request but then required that. He won to select the bride. This seldom worked in the man's favor for the women's schaefer chose were almost always well beyond childbearing years and quote pulling a curtain. It's all the granny's you get number five. This is mildred. She's been wearing a bag for thirty years. She remembers world war one. God the colonists may have been forced to endure these strange and humiliating conditions but many of them chose to willingly remain in colonia dignified perceiving it as a utopia amid a world overcome by war famine death communism they were particularly fearful of the latter mainly because of the horrific stories they had heard but with soviet soldiers did two civilians during the final days of world war two when they swept through eastern germany to reach berlin which is hilarious to me. Because it's like you were germans nazis. Most of you do not understand what you did. You did worse. I think in many regards weekly. I'm pretty sure they took a page out of your playbook the other way around. I think they were bad. Both of them were bad. But i don't know why they would. I guess they weren't on the bad german side so they didn't really see that probably well i don't know i have no idea it's dumb. It's dumb fear. And they're dumb people. I'll say it's all down dummies fearful of communist takeover of the world schaeffer and his followers established mentor unit to defend colonia dignidad men who were chosen to be part of it. We're trained in military tactics martial arts. They referred to schaefer as a general required to carry a sidearm at all times. So here's your army lindsey. They con- uncle general or just general general uncle permanent lester. General actually general since since the commun- had no enemies though this parliamentary unit was used instead to punish sinners starving and beating them as well studying them with rabid dogs. It did this to the members. That schaefer didn't like whom they and the rest of the colonists Referred to as the rebels. One of these rebels was a chilean. Man named franz bar was ten when he was adopted by a german couple. For no reason at all for singled him out as a troublemaker and as members of the parliamentary unit beat him with electrical cables which resulted in his skull breaking and him losing consciousness afterwards. God yes yeah not even. We're not even done yet afterwards. Bar was taken to colonia ignition hospital and imprison enough stare section where he remained for thirty one years thirty one years he was. Oh my god at the hospital barr and others who are also identified as rebels were forcibly medicated. Which made their movements clumsy and slow because of this. They sustained horrific injuries during their work hours. Since they were required to handle heavy machinery they were subjugated to shock treatment as well the physician increasing the voltage every time. They answered a question incorrectly. Okay that's a lot. But also i'm impressed and female physicians. You're like but you know progress abuse so forward thinking uncle laster. Jeez but yeah. that's awful. Yeah yeah not. It's not a good thing but One of the rebels. A man named wolfgang mueller repeatedly tried to escape from colonia dignidad is first two attempts ended in failure and he was brought back to the commun- by a parliamentary unit. Who be forcibly sedated him. Mueller managed to successfully escape in one thousand nine hundred sixty six making chile's capital of santiago where he was taken to a safe house owned by a german embassy. When schaefer heard about this he sent fifteen call those to storm the place to recapture however they were outnumbered by police officers and were forced to return to the commune empty-handed soon. Afterwards miller was taken back to germany where he went public with os happening. Colonia dignidad unfortunately for him. The authorities ignored his accusations but lindsay dino who won't captured sedate you and force you to be a slave for years. Someone who's not uncle. Lester yeah i mean probably a lot of people but especially the the products and services. That support this podcast. They will definitely not do that. I can almost guarantee it fingers crossed. Today's episode of let's cold is brought to you by db db is a scandinavian brand that makes backpacks and bags to help people on the move. Stay ready for anything from the streets to the peaks. Db's gears travel tested by some of the world's best athletes adventures and creators for the past decade db has designed and developed released and redefine the best bags in the market with db's patented hookup system. You are able to attach smaller products to your backpack roller or tote. When i'm traveling town to town to give my new age sermons always need a good bag to hold my books in to make sure the right messages spread so i know how important luggage is to traveling. Let's article is teaming up with db to exclusively offer our listeners. Ten percent off your next purchase by using the code pod. Ten or going to the lincoln our show notes db. It's time to move on time to get going and we are back see. That wasn't so bad. That was better than thirty one years in prison and a medical facility. Wasn't it so much better doesn't hurt yeah true. You don't have a fractured skull. I don't have a fractured skull. I haven't had a bunch of voltage sent through my body. So i'm feeling pretty good which i would rather that it's a friday night but some bolster me come on. I'm learning so much about you. So is my audience. Given schafer's pass. Colonia dignidad was used as a refuge by former nazis who are being hunted down by international governments and organizations. This wasn't the worst thing that the commun- was involved in though on september eleventh nineteen seventy-three never forget. Chile was seized by augusto. Pinochet never forget who led a right wing militia giunta in a bloody coup against the socialist government of then president salvador aladin to eliminate his opponents. Pinochet established the national intelligence directory. Or dina which was a secret police force responsible for identifying enemies of his regime. Those arrested were taken to torture and execution centers located across chile. One of them which was colonia dignidad so he teamed up with the fascist leaders which makes sense. Wow record scratch. Who would have guessed it not me. Many of the prisoners never came out of the commune later. A former dina officer name. Michael townley alleged that colonia dignidad had also been equipped with a secret laboratory where government scientists were day and night to develop chemical weapons among the people imprisoned in colonia. Dignidad was louis pebbles who commanded a secret anti pinochet militia. Unfortunately he was arrested by dina in february. Nineteen seventy five and taken to the religious commune where he was subjected to shock therapy. That lasted for six hours or more croats. Black friday night would not being tortured. He was kept in a dirty sell blindfolded strapped to a metal grate and denied both food and water so classic torture will be in be. Yeah you know. He was at least fed. Oh no he wasn't fed. Never mind take back. I immediately just read that and forgot about it. J just getting take that back. Colonia dignidad ties to. Pinochet remained a secret for years. That is until nineteen seventy seven. When amnesty international published a sixty page report titled colonia dignidad german community in chile. A torture camp for the dina. It considered witness accounts from tortured survivors including pebbles who fled to europe after his release from the commune. Unfortunately schafer's lawyers filed libel charges against amnesty international which prevented the human rights organisation from distributing its reports until nineteen ninety seven. Almost twenty years later. God yeah that's crazy. The lost sucks. That's my stance. That's a hard stance. Screw the law. I am the law. Donka lester however this legal battle didn't stop pebbles and other torture survivors from speaking out against colonia dignidad. It didn't take long before documentary. Filmmakers and reporters started paying attention to them in march nineteen ninety. The pinochet regime collapsed and was replaced by government headed by the former senator named petrie show l. a. aleman aleman who was one of schafer's most outspoken critics. Not only did he. Initiate a financial audit of the commun- but he also removed the state funding for its hospital and looked at status. As nonprofit charitable organization infuriated the colonia staged protests and hunger strikes but these amounted to nothing. Why would he care like okay. Starve yourself fixes a lot of my problems. When allegations surfaced that shaffer was sexually abusing children the authorities conducted several raids on colonia dignified. Hoping to catch him however they've never managed to do so which led to speculation that he had left the commune and chilly. Shaeffer did abandon colonia dignidad sometime in the nineteen ninety s although the colonists continue to live by the rules that he introduced and strictly enforced they did begin to cooperate with authorities. Though and in july two thousand five schaefer stockpile of weapons was unearthed included. Ninety two machineguns one hundred seventy kilograms of tnt and more than a thousand hand-grenades among other things. All of these were legal. I love that. It's like a normal amount of guns and like just so many angry. It's like why so. Many anchor knits thinking too. I was like that's less machineguns than i was anticipating. But then it's like there's more than a thousand hand-grenades. We have more hangar names than we have bullets people for that matter or people. Yeah exactly God a few months before this discovery though on march ten two thousand five schaefer was found hiding in an exclusive gated community called loss. Ics ics goddamn. Yeah we'll go at that. I don't care enough to announce it which was located just outside the buenos aires argentina. He was swiftly extradited back to chile and charged with being involved in the disappearance of one no a prominent political activists who had vanished without a trace in nineteen seventy six the discovery of his illegal stash of weapons. Seal the deal and the following year on may twenty fourth. Two thousand six. Shaffer was sentenced to twenty years in prison for sexually abusing total of twenty five children. He was also ordered to pay the equivalent of one point. Five billion dollars to miners who had filed lawsuits against him. Yeah a lot of money. They deserved it. Those kids not him while he deserved it to. I guess yeah losing the money. i'm now confuses what i'm saying. The kids deserve the money. He did not deserve. That's what i'll recap that with. And he deserved to go to prison and pay the money. yes he deserved. All of that and more broadly overall schaefer was convicted of twenty counts of dishonest abuse and five counts of child rape all of which committed between nineteen ninety three ninety seven however he was never punished for the torture inflicted on the members of colonial dignidad on april twenty fourth. Two thousand ten eight year old paul. Shaffer died of heart failure at the san diego chilies x. penitentiaries hospital nine years later in twenty nineteen. It was reported that the people he victimize leader of colonia dignidad would receive compensation of up to eleven thousand dollars from the german. Government seems low scenes low to me since two of them pay twenty. Twenty two thousand dollars so just got their money back with no interest fifty years later. Whatever was exactly. Oh you know what. They probably weren't still alive. You've you're right. Actually now that i think about it there. Yep they're probably dead appoint dead but their child Whatever his name horace he might be alive still so it's gotten it. Yeah to distance himself from schafer's ties to nazism. And the pinochet government the remaining members of the colonia dignidad changed the commune's name to bill a bavaria in nineteen ninety one it has since become one of the top tourist destinations in chile with a german themed restaurant and hotel. Hundreds of former. Collina's still live there claiming that is. It is the only home that they've ever known. Throughout the years. Many investigation committees have been established to figure out what exactly went down and colonia dignidad. Despite their best efforts. though many questions about the call has remained unanswered. and that is the story of colonia dignidad. The nazi cult. Yeah so messed up. It is very messed up. The fact that their dislike. Hey now we're just a cute. Little cutesy place and julia. You can come visit with our german themed restaurant and hotel. I'll be fair to these the people there now. They were probably the ones being abused so they probably stayed there and then they don't really know much else they don't. They didn't learn any practical skills that could help them in the real world so they just stayed. Yeah yeah 'cause. I'm sure a lot of them were born there. Yeah a lot of them. Were born there and then tortured. They're so good good memories. they can't leave that place for sure. So many good memories remember that time. What's his face was beaten with a cable hold i was a good day. Yeah remember when we were all high and sedated and prisoners prisoners of the hospital. That's no longer. There loved it. Now lindsey before we end off the show. We do have to do my favorite segment at the end of each cult. We do cult critiques. A so my guests. And i take a look at what we just discussed and we give it a rating of five stars as if you were reading something on yelp. We give comments to go with those stars because i realized the stars are kind of arbitrary so there whatever you want them to be. So are you ready. Are you ready to rate this cult. We'll let you say. I think i'm gonna give it. I'll give it three stars just because there should have been less. Nazism probably less beatings there. Military if they were a real called honestly had more guns of hand-grenades. Yeah although i'm debating whether i'm afraid of the amount of hand-grenades they had or if they had more guns would i be more afraid of which and i think. I think the hanger nate scare me just because it's so confusing it is. It just reminds me of what is it anchorman. Like i have a grenade. Where did that come from. Bric brick has the right to solving grenade. brick is the grenade. Oh god trident two. That's a great movie and he's the most terrifying person in that. I'd be terrified those days. Oh my god. I be so terrified of brick. So lindsey three stars. I think i would have to go with four stars. I think this checks a lot of the boxes of cult. It has the blind obedience the compound the. It's even got a military which not many calls do. Yeah i think if it wasn't for the child abuse I'd feel more comfortable giving more stars. Four stars for being a solid cult all around minus one star for being garbage people. That's that's that's what i'll go with the ourselves sustaining because they they were farming and stuff and a lot of the best. Comedians are self sustaining. Yeah 'cause it isolates stem from exactly and when you're in a country where you don't speak a native language. That makes it even harder to venture from the commune. Oh and you don't have shoes so you can't even run away in. that's right. yeah makes it difficult to run away from your lovely wife with her lazy. I and her hip hips. Well i at lindsey. I appreciate you coming on talking about colonia dignity i appreciate. You bringing this to my attention and thank you. Everyone for listening but lindsay. If you wouldn't mind please let my listeners. Know where they can find your podcast. Sure i'd be happy to you can find us online at yield crime. Podcast dot com or on twitter at yield crime pod on instagram at yield. Crime podcast where. I'm pretty much all of the podcast players out there. Probably wherever you listen to this podcast you can find us as well. That's probably true. Yeah actually and we're constantly battling for the top spot good pods. Thank you fred for listening. And thank you lindsey for coming on definitely. Go listen to yield crime. It's they have great stories there and is probably one of the most fun. Podcast names to say yield crime. You always like yeehaw. It's kinda like yield. You gotta do the arm pump when you say it. That's that's how. 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The House Of David

Let's Start A Cult

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The House Of David

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Or podger and leave a rating and review for your chance to have it read on the show now with that ego inflation out of the way. Let me introduce you to my guests this episode. They from the incredibly funny and informative. Podcast hush hush society conspiracy. Our church. Try saying that. Three times fast from princess diana to moth man. These guys cover all conspiracies known and unknown man in a concise and funny delivery. That will make you think and laugh. Please welcome to the show mystery. Mike and slick franck sanders. How you guys today super awesome doing good. Thanks for having gone josh. I love your show and definitely glad to have you guys on before we start though as the undeclared leaders of conspiracy theories. I have to clear the air with you. Guys a few episodes ago i attacked and pretty ruthlessly and they were not happy about it as you guys. Accept my apology. Not necessarily for what i said but i mean i was to q in q drips. I don't know if the yeah is warranted. So okay excited awesome. I'll stand firm and my my attack on them. Then and i will double down and make a cuban on part two. We've we might catch flack for not going in on knew about it but we'll get there eventually. That's okay. We'll take the bullet together moving on in today's episode of the. Let's start a cult podcast. We'll be talking about benjamin brunell. The leader of a strict religious cult known as the house of david claiming to be a profit from god. Benjamin started one of the most bizarre. Cult's i've ever talked about part strict religious sect part amusement park and part baseball team. The house of david had it all including terrible sexual assault charges against their leader because all leaders are terrible. Have you have you heard of the house of david until now no i. I've only heard the. I've only heard the baseball part of it and looking into i was like i wonder if this is the same colt that i'm thinking about. Why are they starting a baseball team. But yeah yeah. The baseball team part is like i mean the whole thing is a wild ride but the baseball part is definitely interesting. Funny that you know but the baseball and not the the call. So that's that's that. Thought they were a little league team. They played pretty professionally like semi-professional. Anyway we'll get into that but yeah it's wild. I ran start with benjamin's early life and how he became a cult leader. Benjamin franklin brunell was born on march twenty seventh eighteen. Sixty one in lewis county kentucky to madison and sarah and brunell. The pronounce were a poor farming family. And with ben being the youngest twelve. Money was always tight. Now there isn't much known about ben's early life when he was six years old his mother sarah and became very sick with pneumonia. The covert of its time. That's not really true. Donut me anyway Sarah passed away from her battle with pneumonia leaving her husband and family devastated by the loss. Madison's mental and financial health deteriorated as a result of his wife's death and he was no longer able to support all of his children. His solution was cold in logical. Well if i can't support them all i'll just get rid of one and ben. Being the youngest drew the short straw so Just needed him out of the house. Shortly after his mother's death ben was sent to live with his oldest brother. James and his wife elizabeth who lived in another part of kentucky. It's safe to say at the age of six. The loss of his mother father and most of his siblings was pretty hard on ben as i think it would be for most of us. Yeah i could see why became a cult leader. Yeah lines are being drawn. Definitely psychological. That's for sure. So it's around. this time. In his life that he began to turn towards religion as an answer to all the fucked up things happening in his life well. The family had always been strong. Christians elizabeth notice that ben was becoming obsessed with religion even stating that once. She saw him reciting scripture to the trees outside of their home and I probably not the only one. I think it's disgusting to watch. Someone push their religion on ants. So yeah just let them believe what they want. Poor oak trees. Yeah during this time. The late eighteen sixties. There was a christian fundamentalist movements spreading through. America led by minister thomas campbell and his son alexander. They would regularly travel through small towns through america. Preaching that christian people needed to return their to their biblical roots. They believe the church to be corrupt and that christians need to abolish the protestant church to return to united church. These preachers and they're passionate speeches. Captured the attention of young ben and changed his beliefs forever. Because before us probably preaching like pretty you know regular stuff like lover one and stuff but this is we need to chop off half of the church and get back to what we used to believe in geez. Now what is the one thing. Besides religion that every straight teenager needs porn drug slows also. Sadly warned if you answered girl at home you are correct and you win drugs. You win the drugs and porn you in the drugs and porn. Yeah yeah ben was no different as he found himself falling in love with a girl named angelina brown when he was only fifteen after only a year of dating. They decided to get married. Because when you live in the midwest and you're not dating someone who's because her cousin them down. I was gonna ask if they were related. Just by coincidence but no actually they well who knows. It's one of his long lost sisters true he did separate from them so maybe she has a different name. So it's the good sign that she's not at least first cousins true. Alas ben was not ready for a committed relationship as he would often leave for days or weeks on end while he traveled around the country and keep in mind. He's like fifteen sixteen at this time. He's just what are you doing just leaving. Flynn life to live in. Live right in the rails. he's Probably preaching you know. He's a pretty religious still so with no job or way to provide for angela. Things were looking bad for their marriage. But what is the best proven way to fix the marriage having a baby course i was gonna say a threesome. I see mystery. Mike has different ways to fix. Think outside the box. I like it and so in eighteen seventy nine. Angela gave birth to a baby girl but it was not enough to keep benjamin's attention and for the next two years. He traveled aimlessly through the midwest. The only word she ever heard from him was a letter requesting a divorce from her. All just you can keep the baby. I don't want anything to do with that. So yeah you just you know the modern day equivalent of just texting to break up with someone. It's pretty garbage. Say love is dead. The reason for the divorce letter was of course because bennett found new love on his journey. A seventeen year old name. Mary stallard and in august of eighteen eighty. They've became married because now related midwest locked that shutdown with under years. Get it to go. This marriage was clearly a lot better for benjamin as the two spent the next decade or so traveling the midwest preaching biblical scripture. His his dream marriage. Of course there was no baby. That's the issue. They did have a baby. Yeah i didn't go into that. But they do have a baby pretty soon after their marriage or or maybe. I don't know premarital sex so they can't do that there was also i didn't. I didn't write this down because it goes into too much but there was also a complication that they never actually filed for divorce like his first marriage so there was a big complication with him trying to marry marry later and so just a mess where he had to clean that he was too young to actually commit to someone in marriage so that the courts would allow him to marry this new girl. It's a pretty solid loophole. It was great. It wasn't until the late eighteen nineties. The began to fall the south kardashian movement which had been created by a british prophetess name. Joanna south qat who claimed to be the woman of the apocalypse whom the bible's book revelation spoke about I don't know much about that. But yes she's apparently the woman of the apocalypse which is a pretty cool name. Yeah i'd like to meet her. Well she's probably dead. There's to be a reincarnation somewhere actually you know what. That's probably a probably exactly what it is so you could meet her someday however they were eventually banished from their hometown. Steria ohio because you see the nells wanted nothing to do with the dead. And i mean absolutely nothing so much. So that when they're seventeen year old daughter died in a devastating accident involving firecrackers at a local factory the to refuse to attend her funeral. Residents of the fos- yes. Brutal residents of the foster area community were furious with the couple and so they were forced to leave their hometown. I think a lot of the desk stuff has to do with. Probably his youth right experienced death out young and then having it result in all these bad things that happen to him. I think that affected them like a bad juju thing and just set him down the wrong path. Exactly the something like that. Anyway i think after being booted out of ohio. The cornell's decided to relocate to the city of benton harbor where they settled on some land located on the southeastern shore of lake michigan there in nineteen. Oh three they founded religious society called the israelite house of david which aimed to reunite the twelve tribes of israel in hopes of preparing themselves to receive jesus christ upon his return to earth in the new millennium very long sentence. Yes so they're they've created the kalt role show credits. That's what we did. Yeah thanks for stopping by. Were you like in a movie when they say the name of the movie. I'm like when's the credits said take a shot. This goal was in line. With benjamin cornell's belief that he was the seventh and final messenger of god as prophesized by joanna south cod so big big shoes to fill. Yeah a little bit. Yeah more specifically. He was convinced that he had been entrusted to carry out the mission outlining the revelation chapter. Eleven verse fifteen which read quote and the seventh angel sounded and there were great voices in heaven saying the kingdoms of this world are becoming the kingdoms of our lord and his christ and he shall reign forever and ever and quote so basically wants to be The messenger of to god basically. It's always it's always to me that people that are super religious especially when you're in the mindset of being a cult leader or a member of a coal or something of the sort that you all of a sudden see yourself as this grand profit or character or a figure head. It's like where was the. Where is the bridge that gaps from lake normal minister. Who goes out and tells people about god to god chose me and i am in the to bring the apocalypse and bring jesus back in it. It's just always a funny jump to me. That's like borderline almost mental illness if not mental illness as a whole like when you're taking a verse out of the bible so literally and taking it as a direct message to you and you only That's kind of deranged e. Yeah it's definitely getting to that point. I mean there are. there are many like it's like. Where do you get your confidence from. You know. I need a little bit of that should have been a motivational speaker. Exactly and i. I feel a lot of them would be really good at it. They can probably youtube motivational speakers. Definitely yeah it's i think it's a combination of a few things and i think with it's definitely the support of his wife. Mary who i feel definitely helps convince him of this. She's she's definitely that kind of person where she supports him. One hundred percent and like just push them towards whatever he's believing in that was in a lot of the research. I was reading. So i think a lot of. That's where his his confidence comes from. severi supportive to support a great attribute and like a crappy scenario. Yes yeah it's like you need your wife to be ninety five percent support you know you gotta be voice of reason. Yeah that five percent where they're just like you didn't fuck and take out the trash last week. Yeah why did you start a call now. I have to get up early on sundays. God goddamn yeah. So i think that's definitely what fed into his specific. What would you call it narcissism. But i believe every every cult leader is slightly different in where they get their confidence to fulfill his duty as the seventh angel of god. Benjamin accompanied by his wife began visiting nearby towns in preaching to residents with his big calling message and charismatic personality. It didn't take long before. He amassed several hundred members which spurred him to buy more land until the communion was sitting on a plot that exceeded a thousand acres. It's hugh wow. Yeah it's basically it turns into a small town here shortly. New devotees of the house of david were quick to adhere to the couple strict rules. No matter how strange they seemed for instance meet shaving sex tobacco personal property and alcohol. were all forbidden. They were also required to hand over their money to the brunell to help fund their preaching and outreach work now that is standard religious stuff however even sex between married couples was forbidden and wait. Wait a second rather husband's and wife's had to regard each other as brother and sisters. Cornell's todd voters that all kinds of intercourse whether it be for procreation or simply for pleasure was forbidden by god. So yeah we bring it. Back to the incest. It all comes full circle literally can't marry her sister. Just pretend pretender wife is your system. That's fun yeah. I mean i've heard of worse called so far it's weird stuff not terrible yet the sex for pleasure thing i mean okay. I could get that if you're if you're very religious cult but the no sex for procreation is kind of puzzling. Yes we and there's that whole complexion to having a child where it's like. Oh this is such a blessing like it to some regard sirs lake especially if you're a religious person there's a religious aspect to having a child so it's like i feel like that should have scratched moorehead's that whole of it just a few more questions raised. You'd think yeah. I don't know if they were just hoping everyone would be mother marrying it. Just babies popping lifting right from god but definitely beard but do you guys know who would never prevent you from having sex or eating meat or anything else. Did you say god. Close the products and services that support this show unless it's a yawn meat burger or something then in which case. Don't eat meat. eat the beyond meat berg anyway. Enjoy some ads good segue. Today's episode is brought to you by meal. A meal is a travel booking platform. 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Twenty twenty one needs a meal plan book and love the journey terms and conditions apply in return for giving up everything they had members were promised that the city of benton harbor had been specifically chosen by god to be the place where the garden of eden would be restored thus joining the house of david would guarantee them attornal life according to the judge who spoke about the group in nineteen twenty seven quote in the minds of his people benjamin had established a kingdom separated from the world in which she had held temporal and spiritual dominance ordering the physical lives of their members and directing the aspirations of their souls and the operation of their mind. End quote kind of dark. I just like how he's with. A straight face stood in front of hundreds of people and he said ben harbor is the place all these other amazing places benton harbor benton harbor. I've never been there. But i've also never heard of it before this. So that's telling if anything the organization's strive to be as self sufficient as possible members were not only required to harvest fruit and cultivate grain. But those who had learnt important trades in the outside world were made to offer their expertise for instance. There were facilities in the commune that provided tailoring carpentry and even laundering services and electrical plant was also established which provided power to the thousands of people living on the land. So as i said like it's turning into its own town within benton harbor kinda crazy. It's definitely one of the biggest colts i've ever covered. Maybe he was right about benton harbor provided food and whatnot for like their services. Yeah so worked. Like as i said like a commune so they would. They didn't get paid money necessarily but got they got to live there. Got the food got provided all these services. I believe for free so it was like everyone was just kind of living there without money which it kind of nice to think about like. I don't know when my world would noma with all the court. Rules suv school. Yeah the no. Sex is weird. But i could i could maybe handle all the rest of the stuff. You didn't say no drugs so that's okay. Let's see there. You go silver lining. I know it didn't specifically say no drugs but please stop injecting yourself with heroin. It's the only way. I always bad heroin factory over on main street. But that's the cell to the outside people. However benjamin knew that creating income streams was key to sustaining the house of david and so it didn't take long before the communion was also playing host a public zoo a garden. A restaurant and arcade a movie theatre a bowling alley and an amphitheater. The group also invested in a miniature locomotive which at the time held distinction of being the world's largest a i take everything i said about benton harbor back. Yeah we're becoming disneyland now before it was the first this amusement park was christened eden springs to commemorate the its future fate as benjamin hope it attracted tons of people and by the mid twentieth century. It'd become the midwest. Top tourist attraction son of a bitch did it. He did it he. He accomplished as most of his dreams here. If only he wasn't a terrible person he could enjoy. It'd be talking nice things about him for outsiders. The group's members may have looked strange with their long hair and full beards however they seemed like a joyful and fun loving community content with running their communion and eden springs in fact. According to chris syria no the current owner of the house of david museum. In saint joseph mccarthy quote. It was amazing the amount of entertainment and excitement there. They wanted to have fun. They wanted to invite america into their lives. They love to entertain and to laugh and to have a blast. They always told me it was a means to an end to get them to tomorrow. Because tomorrow was when paradise was coming. End quote again. There's that apocalyptic line just in at the end but then again you know that that's like you know going back to the cunanan non thing you know. Everything's always going to happen tomorrow. Wait wait till tomorrow and then tomorrow comes and it's like well we meant the next day. Yeah we're just gonna keep adjusting until it happens until something happens like see told. You miss the deadline. I can buy a lottery ticket a million times and if i win once that's all that matters than i was right. Yes exactly locals. Loved the house of david not just for the amusement park that they had built but also because of the vibrant atmosphere that they brought to the city. Bob myers the current curator of the burn. County historical association museum explained that quote. They had a profound impact on benton harbor. Anybody that grew up here back in the forties fifties sixties and early seventies. You hear that all the time. Everybody remembers the house of david and quote up in place. It was a the time. Like i said it it is pretty equivalent to the disneyland of our time. You know what i mean like. We should bring it back. Yeah absolutely back to its former glory. This dude could have been the walt disney. He could've flake made the characters that influence people for generations thoroughly. Now he had to. He had to have a call. That scares me about this terrifying. But i mean yeah. Do we think walt disney had a secret cult. Because i almost one hundred percents. I think he's still has a cult. Isn't there that secret club at disneyland. You guys should do a episode on that. We'll dive into disneyland just If you ever need me on that episode. It'll come on for sure and i'll just trash talk disney'll walter frozen head in a vault somewhere. Yeah just flipping me off with his robotic thing however it soon became clear that despite their long working hours many members were still suffering from an excess of energy due to the no sex rule the pronounce nelson forced to address this benjamin encouraged his devotees dedicate themselves to sports which he believed dissident mind body and soul. Here's like sex. But i got the next best thing for you. Baseball in nineteen ten baseball field was built on the commune's property and it didn't take long before large crowds were gathering to watch pickup games played between members of the house of david and local semi professional teams. Four years later in one thousand nine hundred fourteen. The group launched a formal baseball team that was managed by a man named francis thorpe and featured house of david member docked tally as its lead star. The house of david baseball team began playing against amateur and for semi professional leagues all across michigan as well as from neighboring illinois and indiana in one thousand nine hundred fifteen. They entered a league for the first time and won the barron county championship the following year. This victory earned the mentioned in local newspapers with new york times. Even publishing a short feature that sean spotlight on the strange looking at excellent players. Because you've got a picture. They have like can't cut their hair or shave a huge beards and long hair. They're not even burly they're just they're like thin then guys huge beers kind of creepy looking axles. So do these sports were were. They meant as a fulfilment for their sexual deprivation. I think it started as that and then once they realized how good they got. Because i mean obviously not focusing on anything else. Because she can't do anything else so they got really fucking good at sport a baseball and i think they eventually saw it as a way to make more money so they just went all in on it Given the sensational reporting at the time contemporary historians have found it difficult to assert the role. That house david played in the american baseball history however they do know that. The team played against several of the best squads from the and. Don't yell at me. This is what it was called. It was called the negro leagues whose existence was required by twentieth century segregation laws. So obviously all black leagues that weren't allowed to play in white leagues terrible but These were the first white players to play again or not i but they were. They played like pretty consistently against people from these leagues kind of. What would you call it or forthright forthcoming. I don't know what the right word is. I'm blanking it was ahead of its time there. You yeah canaries visionaries absolutely. They were definitely. According to jacob palmer and the director of editorial content at the society for american baseball research that is a mouthful he says quote while the host david was not the first white team to play against all black teams in many cases their games against say the kansas city monarchs would have been the first time. Many fans in america had ever seen white and black faces on the same field. That was important in helping. Pave the way for integration and professional baseball with jackie robinson. Later and quote. So it yeah. They had a pretty good impact on the game of baseball like they. They helped to progress faster than most other sports. That's for sure so yeah so far. This is is the american dream here literally not having sex with your wife sister. Your wife says it's a good way. Now you say that it's a good way to prevent people from having sex be like. That's your sister have sexual. That's a solid point. That guy's sister i would. They don't sleep with their own wives. They sleep with their buddies loopholes. You know just over the pants stuff. That's all it was the fans. Besides their skirmishes against all black teams. The host of david became known for the unique playing style in a feature piece published in the guardian journalist. Ryan ferguson wrote that quote with aggressive base running skillful fielding an incredible dexterity at bat. The house of david became. Baseball's answer to the harlem globetrotters. In small towns. America people flocked to witness the their lavish show typically replant with stunts and gimmicks. The house of david became known for mastering the game of pepper where players through and bunted balls back and forth with great imagination. Crowds were dazzled as the touring players. Hit balls in their beard. Perform tricks plenty. One obscure scheme saw the house of david playing inning or two with fielders riding donkeys to brazil dr and quote and it is kinda cool like there are like it's terrible footage but it's like old footage of of them doing like these weird like throw it may it look like they're gonna throw it and then it's behind their back or it's in the other guys glove. It's it's kind of like a cool trick thing like you'd see at a harlem globetrotters event or something like that. So it's very interesting. They were having fun. There's no doubt about that. I'm waiting for the downside here. Other than this other than the sex thing also the meat and the cigarettes and the the shaving was other stuff is is that the order for you say sex cigarettes. Shaving yeah yeah okay okay. That's fair. I mean let's good order. That was basically my Corentin anyways so twenty for me. Their prowess on the field became so legendary that at one point the host of david had three different teams participating in baseball games across the united states. Naturally this generated a ton of revenue which went back to the community in benton harbor where it was used to print pamphlets and all sorts of religious literature. Non athlete members watching from the grandstands distributed these pamphlets. So they're they're like we get the money we put it back into the business kind of thing. I i wonder if they were ric recruiting at these games. Oh yeah that's Yeah just at the end there like they would so like a lot of non athlete members would go to the games and then like handle pamphlets In the standards pamphlets for the the the just for anyone watching. Yeah they just like hand the mode and and they would get a lot of people come in from those events which is a smart kits so you got to do like fun. Do you hate capitalism. Come on down to the The non sister sex communion. This led to baseball becoming a critical tool that of david. Not only use to raise awareness about their commun- but also to recruit members. The group intensified these efforts by andrew introducing unique innovation to the game for instance. They were reportedly among the first ones to use portable lights on the field allowing their team to play. Well into the night jacob palmer rank further explained that quote. The team always claimed that. It's game on april seventeenth nineteen thirty in independence. Kansas was the first night game ever played. The house of david. Did a lot to popularize the concept of night baseball and their game. Kansas did take place five years before the first major league night game but they were definitely not the first team to play baseball under electric lights and quote. So they're pushing these new innovations that even the major leagues where we're not doing at the time. Unfortunately for them though this would always Swept under the rug after shocking revelations about their leader headlines across the country. So here we go. Here's the bad stuff. By the nineteen twenty s rumors were spreading. Benjamin brunell was regular engaging in sexual activity with female members of the commune. Which that's a no you know mandatory celibacy. However that's not only that's not the terrible part There were whispers that most if not all of his partners had been underage so he was ordering cheese pizzas when he definitely should not have s. h. Bro not cool. He let the money and power to head when he was supposed to be talking to jesus or whatever he was supposed to do. I don't i'm not sure exactly. But the world in the palm of your hands man harbor could be eating rate now if it wasn't for this blasphemy. You know at first. These rumors were believed to be nothing more than false stories spread by board locals. Who are jealous of benjamin success. However public opinion turned against him. After more than a dozen women came forward and began claiming that they had in fact been forced to have sex with the self proclaimed seventh messenger of god. Local authorities did their best to get to the bottom of the allegations but benjamin would reportedly disappear whenever they sent word that they wanted to talk to him and nineteen fourteen. The chicago tribune even ran a story on how he had locked himself in a vault located behind a den of bears. In the commune. Sue escape from one force. He was ready ready for it. Contingency plans jesus check the monkey The monkey and gorilla cages. There was definitely all over the place. Let me get in the van. And don't talk to me until they've gone. He's fucking nuts but it worked for a while benjamin's efforts may have bought him some time but in nineteen twenty-three the allegations had become too many too loud and too egregious to ignore a few years later in nineteen twenty seven. Another trial was held. Although once again benjamin brunell refused to show up martinez wild that that just works like back. Then he didn't show up. So i guess i can't do the trial anymore. I won't be there yes During the proceedings testimony was heard that several young woman had been forced into arranged marriages in order to protect the house of david from being questioned by their state. Investigators a witness further claimed that the leader of the conman had engaged in sexual activity with teenage female. Members would have been made to believe that they were participating in a purification rate very manipulative than i mean. Like if you're living in this commune in everyone's praising this dude and he comes up to you and he's like have sex with me or you'll die like that's pretty because you're just a kid and who unitel because everyone else's believing him right now from from what i have heard in. You would obviously be the one to know. Isn't it a com kind of common thread among colt leaders to take advantage of underage girls. Maybe it's like a psychological power trip and just continuing that whole you know having that power over a young person or smaller person or whatever there is a lot of i wouldn't say all are under age necessarily but definitely younger leaders definitely recruit younger like us usually i wanna usually above eighteen and And then they corrupt them and basically have sex slaves for their. They're called life right so not as fucked up but pretty fucked up and there are a lot of weird sex things that cult leaders have probably mostly from. Yeah the p- weird power struggle. I'm not sure. I've never been in power of anything so i don't know what the feelings but clearly it goes to their heads and these are not stable people by any means so yeah. I wouldn't say underage necessarily for all the colts but definitely some of them and it. It is definitely a power thing. I believe so. Yeah not great. As the proceedings came to an end benjamin showed up to the court on a stretcher. Reportedly looking emaciated and week. It turns out. He'd been suffering from tuberculosis and diabetes which is supporters claimed. Were the reasons why he had hidden himself away from. Authorities found him during his time in court. Benjamin denied all the accusations that have been leveled against him however it was too late in november nineteen twenty seven the local judge ordering him to leave the house of david and a few weeks. Later on december sixteenth. He died from his various illnesses so to note this here he was never actually charged of anything. He was just told to leave which is just as fucked up definitely a stain on american Judicial system the judge told him to leave his own cul. Yeah oh yeah while. His judge has a six foot long beard. Smart of he's on it and can crank home runs like no one. Yes so all his punishment was he was ordered to leave and then he died so it was like he didn't really suffer any consequences Which is unfortunate for his alleged victims still. The judge reportedly exonerated him for his quote betrayal of spiritual faith of his victims and use of the sacred religion to gratify his lust and quote with this ruling. The state of michigan nearly succeeded in its temp. Dissolve the house of david shortly afterward newspapers carried headlines about how king ben which benjamin had taken to calling himself had been exiled from the community that he had himself built from the ground up however the house of david had become too big to simply radic eight by their leaders. Death benjamin wife. Mary assume the role of the commune's leader but being challenged it's more aggressive members. She called all her supporters and formed a rival group named mary city of david which is pretty pretty cool name. I don't know how like. I don't know how much he knew about all that stuff so i don't want to call her a feminist icon but It was kinda cool that she just let her communion after this charge pretty rare pretty rare back in the day for sure again. I don't know what she knew. So don't if she was a bad person do not taxing. This schism was a huge blow to the once thriving commune even their famous baseball team split with mary's being the more successful one due to her followers including major leaguers. Grover cleveland alexander. The tourist attraction that she had been given proved to be more popular as well especially with the chicago's jewish community who were ostracized by other theme parks and resorts. There were also drawn to the food that mary or followers serves since it contained no meat at all and was thus considered kosher it's I think it's well documented that walt disney was definitely not a fan of jewish people. So this falls in line. That's yes so you know it pays to be open minded and accept everyone. That's the lesson here. That's the message of the day. Yeah exactly meanwhile to her new audience. Mary purnell ordered to have a synagogue built on the city of david's plot so that their jewish guests could come and worship after enjoying a day of fun and entertainment. Both the house of david and the city of david continued their activities throughout the nineteen forties but the ranks began to dwindle after world war. Two mary brunell passed away in nineteen fifty three and this further decrease the membership in both commune's they still exist today. Though with ron taylor won the last of mary's followers continuing claim that the current realities of the commune's were perfectly in line with the couple's prophecy. The house of david may be a shadow of its former self but remnants of its glory days remain in benton harbor in fact eden springs is now maintained by a group of volunteers who hope that it will one day dry half a million tourists just like it did at its peak. I don't think it will. But maybe after this episode go to benton harbor will here for a nice day trip. you know. Most of the park's current visitors are those with fond memories of it. Who want to take a trip down memory lane. For instance notes left on the guest books. Read quote over fifty years ago. My father would take me to the baseball game. And quote and quote i date for grandma and grandpa fowler sixty four years ago and quote so like this like a lot of people were affected by this in the in. The area. Seems like a big deal. Yes kinda wholesome nice. There are nice parts of the story. There are not nice parts of the story but these are the nice parts end on the nice parts from these alone is clear that the house of david despite its scandals beliefs is widely regarded by many as neither a cult or religious order but rather as a welcoming community filled with like minded people. The public may have initially only seen their strange flowing hair and beards but they remember them for the huge impact they had on benton harbor. And even on american baseball ryan ferguson of the guardian. Put it best. When he wrote that quote there are often stigmas. Attached to the religious societies perhaps justly in some instances but the house of david and the baseball team. It's bond should never be forgotten. They believe trail in many different areas of life especially sports and that contribution provides a legacy to admire and quote. And that is the house of david. Pretty wild pretty wild store definitely a weird cult. Benjamin was like a like a young. Walt disney creating a beautiful amusement park out there and then ten follow his own rules and hold himself up because he had he had high blood sugar. Yeah i mean. I don't know if he died of die busy beatty's because he was eating too much sugar or just not enough. Because that's possible to attribute everything went downhill when he opened the funnel cake stand and the turkey. Burke was just punishment for being shitty arison. Exactly it's is too bad that he passed away because he should have definitely serve some time for his crimes. You know like those poor women. Just i mean there are probably happy to see him die fair but they probably wanted to see him suffer a little bit before he did understandable. That's kind of the legal system. Though you know you you very rarely ever see you know. The people that deserve to get their up incomes. Actually get it you know jeffrey epstein Go watch your episode. A know it's true. I mean he was a rich person at the time. Rich white person so yeah probably took a part in in the judicial system before we end our show it's time for cult critique which is the part of the show where my guests and i take the call we just discussed and give it a rating out of five stars as if rating it off of yelp we then give comments on why we gave them this rating. So are you guys ready to rate the house of david with me. Definitely awesome mike. What is your what is your rating. On the house of david. Four stars would come back to harbor. hang out. Funnel cake was great sexual assault. Not so much. that is a good good rating. That's fair eating. What about yourself frank. I'd also have to give this a solid four star. It's only not a five. Because i found a long vevey long beard hair in my funnel. Con candy made of beard. Hair would very entertaining. Synagogue was perfect very clean. The baseball game was nice team. I bet on one. It was good. There were so many bears so many volts within the bear bear cage. Yeah i think. I have to agree with you guys. I think i think for four and a half stars you know. I think for the most part it was just kind of a kind of a nice communion. Nice place to hang out still to this day and if it wasn't for You know a corrupt leader. I think. I think this could have been a very nice story. And it's sad had to be tainted with the terrible things that he did. But i think i think that's a fair fair rating awesome. Well thank you. Everyone for listening Mystery mike and slick franck sandwiches If you don't mind telling my listeners. Where they can find your podcasts. And any other plugs. You wanna throw in. Sure you can find the hush-hush society conspiracy our on all the social media's twitter facebook instagram just search for how society we are the only ones We're kind of like a cult and ourselves. We initiate new members every week into the secrets of the conspiratorial world. And you will die with those secrets. every monday we release episodes. And you can go to hush hush society dot com for more information. Thank you such josh. Definitely definitely recommend you guys go check it out there funny entertaining and very informative so if you love my show you'll there's a step up so so definitely go check it out. I feel most of my podcasts. I'm just steering my listeners. Await better podcast. No it's it's funny because we've we've steered listeners to yours so oh they're just going back and forth very confused they can only subscribe to one. Podcast yeah only have time for one. My commute isn't long enough dammit. New job start taking the back roads. Yeah i'm taking a trip to Benton harbor all of our episodes awesome. Well thank you guys for joining me. Thank you fred for listening and we will see you guys. Next time bye bye.

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Man Cave Happy Hour  Glyph Molecular Whiskey  Episode 26

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Man Cave Happy Hour Glyph Molecular Whiskey Episode 26

"You're listening to the podcast, Detroit network. Visit WWW dot podcast Detroit dot com for more information. Yeah. Well, yeah. Wait is literally standing up comedy is what we're doing at this point. That's my favorite kind. Is it really the sit down comedy is just it's just not that good. No, no. Kiss it down comedy. Told my wife then. She laughs at me every time. I said, hey. Welcome to the man cave. Hey. Welcome Jews Medicaid. Drake fan whiskey and smoke really finds John. All right. Here we all inside. Is happy hour. It's time man, happy are whiskey's fear. It's jars stories that go along with it. I'm Jamie plan. Again, I am Matthew FOX doubt Detroit. Once again, we head out on the road, and we find people, and we have fun. And there's, there's whiskey in town. Oh, there's new whiskey Intel. And we're at the mall CAD the museum of modern art face, like she'll don't try to figure out the acronym. Just go to the mall, cat, modern art, and then figure it out wonderful space in here. It is a great venue. And then we're gonna glyphosate Glick say, correct. All right. No choice glare. Correct. So cliff, is it spirit, whiskey or whisky. What is she says? It is spirit with flavors, spare whiskey. Not whiskey spiracy with natural flavors. Fair-play. All right. So glib whiskey. Can we we'll just simplify say, lift whiskey? Okay. With live with we call. Whiskey sort of like me. My scariest thing we have two very, very nice gentleman tonight. One introduce Josh and I want to reduce Alec as well. And these are the founders of glyphosate whiskey, thank you so much for coming down, and being in the man cave, or we'll letting us invade your space. Yeah, we're coming Russia. Keto well known for just invading space just showing up and saying, hey, we're here. Let's do a show. So. All right. So glib whiskey it as a molecular whiskey. And because I've read a couple of things just I just amazed by what you guys have going on. And so it's just the licensing the name and then you get the government involved, and thanks a lot for being involved in my life. I really appreciate that. But so you guys are having a hard time because you have a very niche of what you do is very absolutely unique. I don't know if there's anybody doing anything similar. And so you're having a hard time with being categorized, so. All right. So molecular whiskey. What is molecular whiskey to open up a hornet's nest? There's a lot of ways to answer that question. But the quickest dirtiest version is thirty so. It won't be that kind of dirty. Allergies for that for this for this show. Molecular whiskey is like electronic music for whiskey. Okay. There's a traditional well known established long standing way by which you make whisky. Yeah. In a barrel, you make music with Kano's symphony isn't whatnot. And someone comes along one day and says, well, I can digitize those notes right synthesize. It a little bit. Yeah. Then I can design them from the ground up, and I can make new sounds that instruments. Can't make where I can make sounds that instruments can make. But it's still fundamentally to be done. Well, needs to have the core elements of music. Most electronic music artists are trained musicians true. And so, but that doesn't really answer the question. What what it is. Yeah. Okay. So molecular whiskey is a constructed. Is the. It was the designed version of a whiskey. When you start with a blank slate or blank canvas of water and grain spirit as neutral, and as clean as possible jerk. And when you take one molecule at a time they extracted from their plants yeast fruits, vegetables, that is bound whiskey. Right. And that you then layer them on one at a time to sort of build it from the ground up. And so at a molecular level, it is whiskey. Okay. But every molecule was chosen for a specific purpose to do a specific task right within a specific concentration, and that's really sort of like we're talking about the design component. But that's what it is. It is. It is molecules Malaika level. It is still identical to whiskey still from natural extracts sounds like there's a process. So what does that process? Look like when you're selecting the different types of flavor notes that you're doing or trying to get out of your whiskey. What does that process? Look like, yes, Josh can probably best describe that. Yeah. So the process. So what we do versus. We take commercial whiskey. We kind of we got your. Right up there. These. Yeah. So with, like, traditional whiskey, we kind of look at the molecular fingerprint, we look at the building blocks that make up whiskey. And what we do is we after looking out what building blocks, make up whisking, what makes whissy tastes like whiskey. We source out those building locks or molecules from elsewhere nature. So that might be plants yeast other fruits apricot earlier. Yeah. And the thing that said about that was like our skied does not necessarily have like apricot in it. I might have the same molecule that makes apricots as like apricots might be one of the soldiers years, Josh L. This is like mad scientists shit. What is your background? Where where do you guys come from where do you told me about your childhood? So doesn't actually question. Because I, I grew up the stilling Akio which is like a Serbian, brandy with my grandpa, he had an orchard, and he grew. I mean he grew grapes apples, any sort of maters fermented his own wine. And he's from wave. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like Detroit big time. Absolutely. So, so that was that was my first Borei into into spirits, but I'm trained scientists study biotechnology sort of couple of companies before. So this is a venture number three classically trained is what you're saying. Right. Sure. Yeah. I just. Then is a scientist. So that's my background. So what your yeah so me, I studied science back in college. I was the person who likes switch majors like ten times, but eventually landed on wanting to become a Somali because there was such a cool intersection of art and science and culture and gastronomy to me, while so I have actually dropped out of college to become a, some kind of dedicate myself to learning about beverages and this project was perfect because it was the convergence of my two interests. So how did the to you? That was. Converge pass each other in the street. One day. If you're a scientist. No. You look like a scientist, say he's got a can of FINA pucker. Yeah, you're right. Next thing you know. Connect. We studied at the same university so university of British Columbia in Vancouver, three founders, so we have another co founder who's not here. Who's our CTO? He and I started working on it originally. And then six months, and we were like, we don't know enough about wine to finish the job. Yeah. We need to find someone. Who knows your first venture was a wine. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Before you did whiskey, let's do a molecular one. We couldn't bring the wine to where we are. Right. So the wine was just an utter fail. So the winus here. We walked away. Yeah. Sorry, I'm like, I'm drinking your whiskey new. Truck. Don't don't don't lie. C o two one Brel in that I'm a happy camp. Yeah. All right. So you started with the but the white, so I thought the wine was like a failure to the wine worked. Well the wine works. Great. Okay. Yeah. We can't talk yet about how well it worked. When we go public with some of that information, I think people will be pleasantly surprised you shut up. No. He's upset about it. This is straight up Star Trek crab. It's the replicator. Thank your d where we're at ten. Four word Yellen. I one acts and molecular -ly. It's created, and you could have, you know, expert in X year expert fluid. I just this straight up Star Trek stuff. I'm like, oh my God. These guys are like. When it's actually truly truly I just I could see where I mean, this has some deep space nine. I mean, I grew up Star Trek towered. Is that right? Right. Yeah. That's right. Sure that was on Girardi. They're part was their bar called is it forward. You did a perfectly, right? The truck party. So you grew up on the prominent where you grew up on that. Yeah. Still have the replicator, and that's all that matter factly. So this is straight up Star Trek snow, so the so you started with the wines. Yep. Sorry, we got ADD, can you tell so we started with line? And, and we got like six months in, and it was something about it still wasn't lying. And it was kinda like wine, but it wasn't quite there. And part of the issue was like, we just under know enough about, you know, a lot of the subtle nuance that makes wine itself. So we were like we find someone who knows what the hell they're talking about Josh was the president of the UB one club. It's just really capitalizing on my drunkenness. Dream. I love him. But yeah, that's kind of I kind of popped on. Kind of getting my background on wine and kind of my palate. And how join the team initially after all things working at a natural wine bar through, we him out of Admiral line mar right to do this really Star Trek. So I did that with your palate. Because you said you're like the master taster, almost is that correct? One of one of them, you do a lot of taste of the whiskey itself tinkering. So what do you what is your palate field 'cause I my palate is so novice. I taste something like tries to legal tonight. I tried it. It was completely different from what I've ever tried before. So where does your pal cone from how did you get your palate to be where it is today? Yes, I-, I explored a lot of my winds started early on in college. And I studied a lot of my wine and spirits, back then, and, of course, just dedicating a lot of time to doing a lot of tasting and like working in the wine and spirits industry. So like in restaurants, consulting writing. In retail, as well as berry taste a lot everyday, and kind of your. So you train your palate. Yeah. We'll classically trained just so we got the wind down. And then you guys are like what, what was the idea for the whisky? How did we come from to whiskey? Yeah. I mean look, when you start with a blank canvas that is water and neutral, grain, spirit, everything else is kind of, like up to you. You can go anywhere, and so it doesn't happen. Wine doesn't have to be spirit doesn't have to be beer. You can sort of, like mix and match what we really wanted to do was show. Acknowledgee isn't like one little pigeonhole. Not just whiskey. Not just wine to us anything. Replicator in love the way the second product is not going to be another whiskey want to be seen as like. Oh, that's just the molecular wisdom company. We're not sure things that are very, very different from each other. The core underlying thing is like this approach of going after him all molecule, and sort of I don't wanna say, like Wooding the craft on its head, but just saying that there's another way to think about craft then like, you know, crap is great. Like I, I was stilling you know, Randi with my grandpa, like it was a little pot still, like I, I get why people care about history tradition. I care about those things to. Right. I just don't believe that the world has to be in a box that someone else made for us. And so we just wanted to say, like what happens when what happens when we opened up that bucks your son? I I love it. So what where where does this flavor profile come from that, that we're trying in, in glimp- in, in this spirit? Whiskey with. Yes. So like early on. I mean whenever people here, but molecular whiskey the replicator people always like ask. Oh, like what whiskey do you want to emulate or copy? Right. We know we realize early on that, like, we don't wanna make exact copy of you wanna create our own unique flavor profile, so originally we were very inspired by a lot of these Sherry casks age was he's of the old world. So like a lot of the pita, nonsmoking styles, and then over the course of production, it took on more of a kind of a lighter, Japanese meets us soft Canadian style. So it's pretty, you know. Yeah. It's something that hasn't been kind of, like explorer tapped in, and it's kind of a unique offering. And that's what ultimately be wanted to do is to provide somebody that was new and unique. Yeah. It is a very unique flavor. So when I my palate is very novice. You know Jamie's palate is very novice. We do the man cave because wanna learn we really want to learn and learning from the experts like two of you just makes that makes it much easier to learn into the Carolina Catalina wine mixer. That's no, no. Never mind. We'll say us. Stepbrothers. What is what is the process because for what understand this gets produced pretty quickly? So what's the mash, Bill? Is there a mash Bill molecular mash bills? Okay. So there's a molecular Nashville because traditionally whiskies bourbons have like a mash mill. So what is your mash, Bill in what is the distillation or production process as much as you can tell us sure, I mean, a lot of the start of it is very similar to whiskey. Right. You have grain needs to be distilled, you need to get the alcohol from somewhere for us. It doesn't really matter where the call comes from because we want as neutral and as pure as possible. So no outer comes into that. That's right. So like you could control from cane or from sugar beets, or from anything but corn is cheap, especially in this country. And so most of our dislike comes some corn as neutral as possible. So it's like six or seven times still effectively, like what you'd use for the precursor vodka. And then we. Add water. That's where you start, honestly at that point. It's basically vodka you. You've only just begun we do extract some, some olives from would that we can't commercially source for actually all the color that you see is one hundred percent would extract, no caramel, color in that. There's no artificial coloring. What extra would literally an overnight extraction that we do to get the Colorado to get certain molecules out for the flavor and for Roma, you're not doing any tanning at all? It's all, yeah. Yeah. With that said, even after we've done the would extract. It is still very much hot whiskey yet is far from it from flavor profile. Yeah. So there's the there's the bottle, there's the color. Like I said, there's no artificial coloring in. They're very, very nice. Feel to it. That is all from would. And so that comes together that's updated canvas. And then after that those individual notes those molecules sort of go in the things that you would find in whiskey and the things that we've designed the making of it is easy. This happens overnight. Yeah, but the designing really hard we went through two thousand different rations. Yeah. Almost two years. But now that we've made it we can make it now and tomorrow and a thousand years, you'll be to make the same thing because it's the same thing over and over again adopt. Right. That's right. Just replicating. Right. And this is coming in at forty-three percent. So when you're making when you grab when you grab an existing bourbon or whiskey and you grab a profile of it like the molecular profile how much do you need to be able to identify the molecular structure because I mean, there's probably some rare herbs at someone would be like I would pay you to make this again. This is my last tram, you know, try to do this again. How much do you need to extract that profile? Yeah. I mean, we'll get into the weeds a little bit where with this analogy, but we're still in the very early days of the technology and the analogy I'd use is early. Xerox machines, right there. Analog and have a lot of noise in the image, and the problem is that our noise tongs or very sensitive heart. And so, so we what we do is literally not analog. It's digital but we're still. Still in the early doesn't developing the technology. Right. We're building this from a lot of his kind of like all the shelf Clement, but we're trying to like, fundamentally build a lot of new methods from the ground up. Right. And you know primary search takes time and you're creating a database profile first time. So one day, you'll be the descendant of this technology will be able to make those copies. Okay. Not yet. So, so it's kind of like the first time Jeff Goldblum sent them monkey through the thing. Right. Didn't it? Well, no. And I see that I got. Our first wine also didn't end well for anyone. So, so you pulled you now you have molecular, okay? This is kind of an apricot Rudy favor. This is kind of a smoky molecular design, and you add these molecular combinations science, boys. Help me out here. Is that the right word sure yeah go with it. It's like your name your in English major so I'm layer. We're. So, and you can kinda you kind of picked those out until okay? This Rudy flavor this Hobie flavored worked, well together and his his what we liked rows while we're putting in here yet. So you'll case you're not replicate really replicating anything yet with us really. I mean, this is the first steps towards that sort of it's man, it'll be an interesting application of the technology. We're not coming to table being like, hey guys, we're about to counterfeit all your product. So look out why people are afraid of I think that's what people look, I get it. Thank. But we can't we can't realistically live in this world. Now in this industry or if that's the kind of way that we're going to conduct business out on, we wanna make our own things that people haven't made before. And now you the database that you created, and you can pick and choose whatever you want to create that file that you wanna create but look some other makers might come to us and be like, we have ten cases left of this stuff sold. Really? Well, right. Love it. What do can you can you replicate what we are? That's right. Can you make more of it? We ran out of water Jack Daniels, never say that because they source it out of the ground. But no with the running out of product, you know, the guys can come in and really helped them out. That's right. That's never thought about that. Jill just now. Right. So talk to me. There's so many things we're going to be for an hour. I'm sorry. It sounds good. I won't we won't keep you that what tell me about the bottle, what who designed the bottle and the in the labeling, and this whole the naming who we're we're this come from. So the design is, is a good collaboration of in house, and agency work. I can tell you eighty five h is the designation. That is the version of the whiskey that we came out with sort of like little Easter egg. Okay interning meaningful, but externally meaningless. Each of the icons, we wanted something that sort of ocht, navigation like looking out onto the horizon searching for new thing. And so that's sort of where you get the, the compass rose from. They're exactly. It's a look Wednesday, Cisco where the wild west of like how you can play with new science technology as for the name, you can talk about that. Yeah. So for us, like, if we think about these molecules from analyses, like different symbols that make up the entire like big picture in that things four and five together. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So like just like putting things together like in a synergistic way, we wanted to kind of lewd to the fact that that's what we're kind of doing and with glyphosate hieroglyph flakes all these little, molecules are like symbols for the for the, the bigger picture, or the, the big, whiskey and the beautiful. Thank you. I just I just I love old concept and it's like it's innovative. It's thank you, and it, it tastes pretty darn good. Because I was, I was Mellon, and I was like I was 'cause you come in with molecular in. So I'm always going to be very chemically, and it didn't get it didn't get a strong Roma when we first hit it. I had had an easy knows two things they're getting much nothing. And then I came back in, and I was, I was saying it's fruity, and that's right, when you walked up, and I was like kind kinda apricot, going maybe ever cons. I don't know maybe some and then on the taste, what you get on the taste met on the taste. When I when I did the original tastes because we always do our first taste of anything that we've ever tried. We always do it need to get the most peer taste that we can. When I hit the first time I had a good vanilla feel too, that, you know and, and anyone else to the show knows I love that vanilla field. But it's I really help felt that vanilla that at the onset, but then after about three minutes or so it just sat in the back of your throat. And it just really coated your throat really nicely and nice warm way. But the taste was not overbearing. I it was just. You wanted to go back for more, and that's what you want. That's what. Absolutely. Layers to hang at the beginning isn't the same in the middle of smokey I had a smoky drink. And there's a smokey flavor to. I had a preconceived notion again being a blend in molecular thing I was expecting like an ethanol face in their there because you're dealing with a shining adding to it, but I didn't get an ethanol taste at all. What, but I didn't get a lot of the flavor on the first taste with the second third, I it was very fruity was very fruity on the second and third taste. And I like that. I'm a girl drink drunk. Everybody does that put an umbrella in. I'm going to have you, then you're going to local Y. Yeah. CO two. It is. Yeah. That's but I enjoy it. So here's one more question. Your San Francisco. You were in another city. And now the third New York City Detroit, as a why Detroit why she grew up in Michigan. Not too far from here. Okay. Lived in a lot of places since then, but the only place that feels like home. Riddled. But so I went to high school in west. Neighbor? Boy, went to seal so awesome. We're enjoy. So. But the reality is, we would've launched here as a very early market, even if we had no connection to hear at all because there's a lot of really cool stuff happening like cultural viable like housing weeding rethinking music that is happening here, but especially happening now. And like, look where we thinking, whiskey. And we think that this is a great place where we can tell that story choice. Yes. At the same time, you know we just launched Hong Kong last week and hunger. Very different arket terrace. Hong kong. Yeah. Kind of its own thankfully isolated place. You know, Hong Kong such a different market. It's, it's a place where you can sell a thirty thousand dollar bottle of whisky all day long about like what you can show and, and like you know what you can bring to the party and what you give to your friends, and they were like, look, we only want to bring in one hundred models 'cause we only move sixty bottles of whisky among, and they sold out one hundred dollars in the first day. Wow. So we had to send another palette and then five days later, they're like another Palais that's gonna fly. How Turner quick turnaround is. Yeah. And so, you know, it's not just the it's not just one market, right, people. Hear something for themselves in this based on, you know, whatever they bring to the table. Right. It's different things to different people. So you said you did want you did wines. Now you've done the, the whiskey out. You said you don't want to do another whiskey next. You want to go somewhere else where you're going next not yet. But you'll find out very soon fair enough after we get off the air here. Yeah. There are lawyers won't be thrilled about saying. I was looking forward to it, though. We've been up time Josh L. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Brian Christian Alec charity. Josh? Drinks are over there. Thank you very much.

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Part 2: Adolf Hitler And The Nazi Party

Let's Start A Cult

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Part 2: Adolf Hitler And The Nazi Party

"And that is why rocky road is definitively the best ice cream fine. I'll give you that if you agree that if you say that the toy stories toys are not alive one more time i will shove rex up your do you miss sitting around the table. Getting along debates about meaningless nonsense toys do not how soul so getting wings. Then you need the moral combat podcast where we take all of your favorite pop. Culture argument debate them tournament style except while we argue. It's our audience that determines the winner. I used to have trouble sleeping. I just couldn't turn off my brain now. I drift off planning my own world combat arguments. I often have strange opinions. But can't should with my family without being disowned. So i called the moral combat hotline. They had to listen. And now i can attend thanksgiving before i started listening to mortal combat. I had no friends or confidence now. Feels like i have six new friends and only one of them is imaginary and speaks and parcel top now. 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You know them dump found dead incredibly funny like a fifth of the guests. I've had on this. At this point i welcome to the show guys. How's it going good to talk to you again after a few minutes. It's been a long. You're breaking the illusion. It's been two weeks for everyone else now can can either have you sum up what we talked about last episode. This is a test and if you fail you don't dard school that's spoiler. That's one of the things factor to do. And and the and the and the other is the terrible friend august and his sarah's viola which we just learned is a giant violin not assad little tiny violin pictured the thing mr crabs has in those meetings playing my head exactly what was in my head what else he had really traumatic childhood. His father was kind of a great father figure true. Yeah not a father and his mom. The only person he loved lost the only person you loved damn bonus points for patrick i was gonna say and then he stole my thunder like always you gotta be quick because the net is gonna end up taking over the world. You better stay like yeah i should. Yeah he starting in the philippines. I am a message. I'm gonna message josh. And be like i knew it. Just sitting there with your. I'm trying to think of a worse version of like you're playing ukulele mandolin just saying i told you so. So yeah you guys. You guys are the main topics we talked about. How hitler became you. Know the leader of the nazi party We'll go back over that a little bit in part to we'll be diving deeper into the nazi party. Its history. how it functioned. What it's ideologies were and eventually it's doubtful. Have you guys had enough of hitler or are you interested in hearing about more more but wait wait. Thank god because i don't have a backup plan a captive audience so laying on blocks you guys down here in this dungeon and we can't go anywhere we are trapped. We'll jump right into it. Then when the nazi party was founded in one thousand nine hundred twenty the world side of germany was increasingly moving toward socialism and communism only three years before the imperial romanov dynasty had of russia had been overthrown i by the provisional government and then by the bolshevik party which was led by vladimir lenin these events would pave the way for the creation of the soviet union in one thousand nine hundred twenty two so a little bit of that bonus little bit of the soviet union in this episode throughout the early nineteen twenties the ideologies of the soviet union slowly spread across the region including its neighbouring mongolia. Communism was also becoming quite popular in the european continent with a number of uprisings in germany. One of them managed to form the bavarian soviet republic in one thousand nine hundred nineteen although this was short lived. Thanks to the country's parliamentary forces. This was the climate that the nazi party found itself in when it was created only year after the bavarian soviet republic was decimated it initially targeted the german working class attempting to draw them away from communism and socialism towards antisemitic and anti marxist ideologies. So it sounds like you know another party in the states not saying names shit but we will dive into that for For the most part they succeeded at the time. The political climate in the country was extremely harsh in chaotic. Given the one thousand nine hundred ninety nine treaty of versailles and the terms that it imposed on germany which had been defeated in world war one. unfortunately the jews were blamed for this loss with many germans. Perceiving them to be traitors like hitler they that those of the jewish race had been unpatriotic and unwilling to fight during the war. Which led to germany's defeat. So we talked about this last time where it was the for some reason. The jews were blamed for everything which is wild because like why wouldn't they blame the people. They were fighting. I don't understand. Why can they be like damn britain's like the rest of us. Many of these germans formed groups where they can meet and discuss a wide variety of topics with like minded people. They were usually opposed to the newly founded y mar republic and the treaty of versailles with their talks. Denouncing democracy human rights capitalism socialism and communism. So they hate everything. I mean at least a universally hated everything that's true. Well everything jews these political things and jews. They're having a conversation. Like i hate banana bread. Oh jeez it's always the end of the sentence. You have to add that in fucking crazy. People august the blame blame august saugus fault formed by a locksmith named anton drexler. And the right wing journalist. Karl harrer the nazi party started out as one of these fringe groups. Hitler had originally been sent by his commanding officer to spy on its members. However he found himself enamored with their ideologies. Instead before long has fiery oratory skills had drawn audiences in so i think this is kind of a fascinating thing that he was actually sent into like infiltrate the the group and then he was like i like with these days. Yeah that's like damn what was what was that you said about the juice taking no know what captain i i don't know if they're that bad God yeah yeah. So clearly he just he just gets roped into it and And yeah so it's kinda wild it's it's interesting to imagine. If he didn't get sent in there what would have happened. Would they're like so. Many things had to go wrong for hitler to become a household name. It's crazy it just lined up so perfectly so perfect according to the historian and scholar. Louis l snyder. Hitler was impressed with drexler's ideas. He agreed wholeheartedly. With the concept there existed a diabolical jewish capitalistic basic conspiracy which had to be counteracted. Believe that drexler was right on the one hand there were the innocent german workers farmers and soldiers on the other hand. There was a common enemy capitalistic jew from this germ cain the essence of hitler's nazism. End quote with hitler's passionate speeches appealing to a wider base membership in the nazi party skyrocketed and it turned into an actual movement that sought the unification of the entire german volk or race more than that though they believe that as the mastery they were doomed to be locked into an internal racial struggle against those inferior races including the jews for them. This conflict would only end if the german volk united in complete subservience to the state. So now they're including other races. This is the first time i've noticed it. Yeah yeah as as a white person. I don't think white people are superior. It's quite obvious with online. I mean a lot of your obsession with mayonnaise a lot to be desired. I i would say that's a weakness. Love mayonnaise. i love me. My girlfriend hates it. C- cataracts. So just wild. Yeah i have never met a white person who doesn't like mayonnaise except for my girlfriends. I don't understand so you think mayonnaise our downfall. Then that's our weakness that in spicy foods. Kind of that is true what we call spicy like boston. Pizza and there. They got the spicy meter. It's like it's like a one. And i'm like that's to spice and that's boston white spicy. This avocados is there some pepper. I i liked to live life dangerous van. That's it's always fun making fun of white people. I'm just saying that's true that's true. I think it's the only race you can make. Fun of runs like yeah. That's okay because because because the rest of us have a designated month celebrating so you guys don't. I think there would be questions if we started. November is men's month in november. But we brand. The whole month is like oh. It's for prostate branded. Wouldn't go over. Well yes exactly there which is at least prostate let this month november would be rebranded as a reminder to get your ass big man. No no no lou just mayonnaise. Don't forget to tip your doctor. What are we talking about again. I'm curious though when when is when is your month i actually don't know when asian like is an asian monther. What have what have we go by. Asian pacific islander like. We think we're all don't even know bottled up together. It's like yeah. We're bottled up together. How do you feel about that. I don't know we got fucked by spain so many times that it doesn't even matter anymore even asian anymore. Yeah we're even more spanish. That's way worse. I is the philippines is like you know. We're we're not really asian asian like when people go asian it's like you know like chinese oriented china right and then like filipinos. We're just like i don't know the mexico. Yeah that's exactly the mexico brown enough to like be asian. But i mean like indians's indians like people forget engines are asians like. Yeah we just. We just get lumped in what filipinos are. What is it that did indians are like their asian straight up as their own class as indian. Exactly like we're like we're like the same thing in the philippines is just like not in the larger scale like india but yeah i mean you know like a billion and a half people. Yeah i mean. That's true like yeah. The filipinos o'connor i mean if they're not in crazy rich asians don't exist. Oh man back. Got off topic wildly. We are great at that. So actually i was going to go off on a rant anyway. So this perfect. So so much like cults. The nazis demanded an all or nothing mentality where they lead people to believe that they are their saviors and the superior beings and that only by joining them. Will you be victorious. Usually it's more of a religious reason for people to join a group or call or something like that but this in this case it the motivation is race and nationalism. Which i find kind of interesting so jesus figure but a i don't know country feel like it's just your country your pen right patriotic with my hair. Yeah yeah yeah. Nationalism is a better into my gun. I'm sorry i need drink. more water. The comparisons get even crazier and we will go into that. Among the men whom hitler spurred to joining the nazi party one of his commanding officers captain ernst rahm proved to be instrumental in growing the organization as he had access to money that they had used to publish their propaganda advertised their meetings. In february nineteen twenty. The nazi party published. Its first program in which they outlined the refusal to accept the treaty of versailles. They also called for the reunification of the german people which has been split up when germany was forced to secede some of its territories following the first world war so you know what fair they were pretty harsh on you guys take it back yeah yours. Yeah yeah like the the allied powers where the powers at the time. The whatever you know. America the the british empire they were pretty harsh on germany which definitely created all this resentment and there is something to be said like for us to take the blame on. It is like fair. Say us like i was an office. Us nations should understand that this would push them to radicalize further but they were just pissed off and recompense for for war that killed millions which is fair as well. You know to two sides of the coin right so that was fine but the program highlighted the organization's beliefs regarding nationalism in particular. They advocated for equal rights to be granted only to german citizens or those who could prove that they have german blood. The jews foreigners and other undesirable races were to lose their citizenship rights. Well immigration of non. Germans was to be halted now. John and patrick. I have no idea where you stand politically. i'm canadian. So correct me. If i'm wrong but does not every single thing i've said so far. Remind you of them. The mega right and the human on asshole s so crazy how how much aligned it. Yeah and it's because we're undesirables so it's a me too. I'm not american. But yeah like jewish conspiracies nationalism. Undesirable races targeting. The working class concentration camps. Like it's all there and like you can say that these people are responsible for their beliefs. But if you're being force-fed beliefs from every single angle. Friends families like social media advertising. Tv like if that's constantly all you're getting then of course you're going to start believing in this. You know what i mean. And it's that that kind of thing where it's like. You can't blame the victims of the call but you can absolutely blame the fucking people that started and run it. Oh exactly and it's like a whole ass indoctrination process. You know like people just force fed this idea. And it's their way or nobody's way yeah and they wouldn't button and they wouldn't budge at all and then like to like almost the end of their term day incited shit because the the decision you know. They couldn't handle the the that was made by the people which is insane. Yeah i can guarantee you that. Well and actually i think we talked about a bit more in a few paragraphs for now that the nazis do the exact same thing where they incite violence and stuff like that to other political parties to get their way basically and i mean. Luckily america had a lot of safeguards. Thank god there were so many because it wasn't far off from me being like i don't know maybe we should build the wall point. That is so crazy that how how much aligns to what the nazi party really believe in the whole immigration thing and pulling people citizenship. out of. that's possible here to show people that. I don't know because in some regards that's kind of what they're doing to the mexican citizen. I don't i i don't mean to get too political even though this is a political party but in some ways that's kind of what they're doing to mexican people who are living here right. They're putting them in concentration camps or wanna come over and declare what is it. Is it like declare silent silence so they're not allowing people to declare asylum just keeping them in these camps which i mean i don't care how you feel about immigrants but that's it's a concentration camp basis without the killing me and actually we talked about this in a previous episode that we had and we were saying because patrick and i were you know. His parents were immigrants. I'm an immigrant and we understand that. There is a law that pertaining to immigration. And all that. And i understand okay. There are rules to getting to hear but sometime the right way yeah. The right way took us like many years. It took my parents like at least a decade to get to the us but chase when people are trying to seek asylum when they're trying to seek help because of the inhumane ways that they're being treated in their parts of the country. It's insane that you remove the human aspect of it and say like hey fuck your feelings. Fuck fuck your situation. You can't come here. we can't help you. That's inhumane that and what they separate kids kids parents. That's i think that's the worst part of it to separate your family's it's just insane. This is insane to me. It's just a crazy idea to me. It is and there's also this huge notion of when kids end up going to the system. Okay their lives become really messed up and then they end up they might end up in a life of crime and they just keep blaming. The people that are immigrants are coming here. It's like oh your people or your type of people do these types of things that you guys are bad. But let's say you put them in situations where date can't succeed at all. Yeah exactly and it's a huge drain on resources and tax money like you're better off either accepting these families in and like working through the process of getting them to be citizens or i and i don't understand why but if you're deporting like deporting the parents i would assume that they would prefer the key like should you like i want the kids to come with me and one hundred percent. Those kids are better off being with the parents. Yeah sure and and because since the perez made the decision for those kids that they should ultimately be responsible for their children to go back if deportation was the main course of action. I just absolutely. It's just ridiculous. A putting them in situations where they would end up with somebody else in a in a foreign country that's setting up a child For not successful life your and then you have citizens that hate the government all my god. I can't even ya. 'cause i lived in the philippines and i know like or john's live in the philippines to it's it's corrupt. Got money out there. You're probably not gonna make it. You know you're not gonna make a very far and when people say fuck the government blah blah like bro giving you unemployment. They're giving you a they're giving you so much things. Hope he's brought. You got nothing you gotta you gotta go collect bottles and sell to eat for the next meal you know and and i find i find america. We're getting way off. But that's okay. I enjoy this topic. But i find america's kind of in this weird middle ground of you guys have some government support systems but for the most part it's it's very capitalistic. And you're on your own. You know what i mean. Canada is perfect and i always preface that because we do have our issues. Don't get me wrong. But we have a lot of social things that allow us to keep our heads above water like those stimulus checks and stuff like that. And there's tons of european countries that we're paying people's salaries in full for the whole pandemic and those things just made life easier and you don't have to worry about being homeless about going to school. Sometimes like you know what i mean. It's those things that where in some cases the us is definitely way better than yeah like you said the philippines in some regards compared to some other countries who have accepted socialism which. I'm not pushing socialism entirely but socialist services. You know what i mean. There are a little bit behind in some regards. It absolutely and you know we should on the us. But i loved it in. Sign my life away at some point. Yeah of my life. Yeah but you're right there. There's some things in the us that that's lacking. There's a lotta people who and this is going on a tangent. But there's a lot of people were way off who who supports pro-life and and it's like all right abortion shouldn't be allowed yada yada but then after the child is the child has been birth. Then what they stop caring about them. Afterwards there's no i don't. You're getting welfare like you get welfare blah blah blah exactly. They should on the same people that they're saying Hey baby the baby and the next thing you know it's like oh you had a baby you. You're stupid like you shouldn't have done that. You can't even afford a is true. It's just the hypocrisy of it and then along with that like they they start. The previous party stopped. Try to fund planned. Parenthood with people will just saw. This place is as nothing but straight up abortion clinic but they don't know that it's a preventive medicine place or a place where they could be like. Oh yeah About smash next weekend. Let me grab like ten bags just to make sure that no fucker will pay for my babies down line type of shit but they don't know how it works go they just see it as a waste of resources but they don't know that it's helping other people prevent these types of things you know. It's just insane more. They're more preventative and like abortion. Been legal here for. I don't even know most of my life if not all of it. I can't remember but it's not like it's a thing where we just go. I'm going to get an abortion looking like a more of an educational tool as well as the preventative measure like. It's the last case like last ditch effort. If you have no other option or you're not ready you accidentally you know. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone fucks up whatever before that seed becomes more than it is. It's it's mean this is a tricky topic but it shouldn't be it should just be you do whatever you want to your body. I mean this is three men talking about abortion it really is It's honestly do whatever the fuck you one. It's not my body you know. We're all having the message should be out. There is that the resource should be available for those who needs that support or her needs help and the fact that that was being taken away. That's the fucked up part about it. I agree hundred percent so the cap that all off happy women's month. There's a lot of strong queens out. There i'd mile my wife. She's the backbone of this household. I don't i have no pride that shit. I'm i'm sugar baby. Ps aimez shut up. I ain't adamant up right. He hasn't been acting right. That's what you get. shot out. Strong women out there man. Y'all are killing it. I mean not. Like hitler killing him but gets you guys are killing it. No no so so proud of everything gel. Doing i did not think we'd get to a women's rights but we did it. You've never know what you're going to go. Check out the dumbfounded. Let's get back on track a little bit. Because i guarantee we'll get off track again with everything that's coming up so we were talking about the program that they will. They released which you know promoted nationalism and anti jewish rhetoric and stuff like that. This controversial program became known as the twenty five points as harsh as its terms. Were it appealed to the german working class since it included measures that promoted the redistribution of income and war prophets as well as profit sharing in the country's primary industries it also called for the nationalism of trusts drastic increases in retirement. Pensions and free education. All of which were initiatives that practically every german on the street supported now. These are socialist beliefs that people like to point to however i'd like to you know. Counterpoint hits nationalists socialism so none of the other races or jews are getting these benefits. It's just the just the white germans. It's like you're invited to the party but you can't show up it's like you're you're the neighbor kids having a party and you just have to watch but you can't pick the song or you can't dance either. Okay just be there. You're actually the caterer but not quite socialism. If you know what i mean. Within their ranks the nazi party sought to reflect the terms of bad made in the program aside from excluding membership to only those could prove that they were pure aryan descent. They also forbade party members to mary or engage in sexual relations with jews. In april of nineteen twenty the organization which at the time was still going by the original name of the german workers. Party officially redefined itself as the nationalist socialist german workers. Party which we talked about last episode got that rebrand going ape plus for marketing other important changes also took place with hitler chairman and the journalist. Carl horror error becoming the honorary role reich. Chairman the following few months. Which is i think that. I just thought of the office where it was dwight being like. Oh that's just into this. Just in general manager to the regional so he was the assistant to the regional manager of hitler. The following few months saw the nazi party increasingly becoming popular with hitler's speeches attracting droves of people and members. He was able to arouse intense emotions of anger and hate in these crowds which often lead to horrifying acts of violence Because of this. Hitler was sentenced to so so this is like trump inciting on. Wow crazy part is this fucker didn't get in trouble for which is at least hitler did shit. Yeah yeah because i was just about to say. Hillary was sentenced to three months in prison in september of nineteen twenty one so it is kind of crazy that we've kind of in some ways you are handling a worse than scared. Yeah yeah well not all of you. I guess half he was. He was sentenced after participating in a mob rival politician upon his release he and his former commanding officer. Captain rahme formed a private army that they called the name. I refuse to renounce or the storm section which also became known as the essay so the essay which we talked about last episode store Stormtroopers this is the way. Essentially and hitler. Dark beta bro. it's making sense. Oh my god who's like palpitation. Is pilot but i'll get a baiter in german like dark father's mcnutt maybe i think our channel translates a dark father is a number is is number three for his theory. Yeah what else does it say. Yeah i thought. Star wars was loosely based off of if not political parties was america or if it was world war one world war. I couldn't actually. I don't know that part but that could be my first conspiracy of the deb's being jar binks perfect you'll be largely hated by the community so the essay was made up of former members of the german right wing fright corpse and was led by a former air force. Pilot named hermann. Goering was responsible for protecting hitler from attacks by his enemies and tractors. They were also instructed to wreak havoc upon meetings and rallies held by. The nazi party's political opponents which often ended up in violence. But the right wing. Government of bavaria turned a blind eye to the violence that the nazi party displayed mainly because their hostilities always directed towards socialists and communists again disproving the peru the theory that they were socialists. The national government in berlin was different story. Though as news of the nazi party spread outside of bavaria they enacted decree called the law for protection of the republic. But this didn't faze hitler who proceeded to organize a rally which more than forty thousand people attended during this meaning. He called for the overthrow of the national government as well as the execution of its leaders. He's getting good and when they stormed the capitol building they were trying to kill people. Just theorized i mean. There were mike pence. I heard learn right talk. Cannibalism of your party like understanding. I could've sworn aoc came out and said that someone wants someone wanted her dead. She's a socialist. Patrick believe her right. It was cancun. Ted all right zodiac killer. Man oh i wanna talk about cancun tad 'cause you're from texas. I feel oh go off on a whole other tangent dot guy. leave it at that perfect summary. Despite these alarming statements audience was enraptured. One of them was a very wealthy and well educated man from berlin named kurt. Lodwick recalled that quote. I studied the slight pale. Man is brown hair parted on one side and falling again and again over his sweating brow threatening and beseeching with small pleading hands and flaming steely blue. Is your that look of a frantic. Presently my critical faulty was swept away. He was holding the masses and me with them. Under the hypnotic spell by the sheer force of his conviction end quote. I love the small hands. Ends hair parted on one side. Steel blue blue is this guy. We are hitting all kinds of. We're in the matrix he says. Why do you have the damn like. It'd be sold observance. Perfect it's perfect. I think he's trying to paint the picture. That hitler didn't seem so Dainty seem dainty this do this new sound. He's starting is. Hitler is only fans account. Shit check on my boy hitler's dainty small hand squad. Now all he fans five dollars and you get to see everything nine nine dollars toward griffin dole. Hang doing nine. This might be the longest episode yet the day. After hitler speech ludwig joined the nazi party where he became one of the most important fundraisers the ranks of the nazis were filled with individuals. Like luynedyk london. Whatever anger and frustration and the circumcised shit right with individuals like london whose anger and frustration at the circumstance. That germany was in were intensified. By hitler's passionate. Oratory they saw in him a man dedicated to improving their lives. Even if it meant making drastic and controversial suggestions as the ideologies of the nazi party spread its leaders began to take an even more aggressive approach towards their goals of german reunification. And the dominance of the area and master race for instance they attempted to overthrow the y mar republic through a military coup that involved their followers marching berlin to seize power from the national government on november eighth nineteen. Twenty-three hitler marched into a beer hall in munich or the state. Commissioner of bavaria gustav von. Kara was giving a speech at the time. There hitler declared a national revolution that would abolish the y mar republic which was despised and widely regarded as weak however this attempt at a coup. D'etat was quickly extinguished by the armed police proceeded to arrest and charge hitler with treason for this. He was sentenced to five five year jail term. Although he ultimately only served nine months it was during this time that he wrote his autobiographical memoir mein kopf which contained a chilling outline his political ideas and belief system as well as more nazi propaganda. According to historians hitler's lenient sentence was due to how he managed to turn his trial into political rally. Rather than being seen as a violent dangerous and instigator instead came off as a radical orbiter was merely looking out for germany's best interest this combined with the public's deep dislike for the why mar republic meant hitler was perceived as a martyr being picked on by the national government which was an image that won him along with the national party many supporters so it actually kind of backfired. The coup may not have worked physically but in the minds of many germans worked in swaying them over to the nazi party. Yeah yeah with hitler's imprisonment and the publication of mine. Kopf membership in the nazi party skyrocketed. Among those who joined it was a man from munich named heinrich himmler history. Would one day referred to as the evil genius of the third reich. So i think everyone knows heimer kamler not a nice guy now. His fanatical nationalism and the deep loathing that he had towards the jews impressed the rest of party members. Even the chairman himself because of this handler was chosen to lead. Hitler's personal bodyguard. The shulte the shuts shut staff win or the s. I have a hard time pronouncing names which is hard for me to admit because my last name is german spelled. The same as a lot of these which is scary. I show they all have the s. c. h. Which is my last name. Shell and i'm just having a tough time. But that's fine because they were shit. So but hitler's ideologies and is passionate oratory weren't the only things that drew people into the nazi party. At the time the economy of germany was in shambles with many forced to live in impoverished conditions. This was exacerbated by the wall street crash in october. Nineteen twenty nine which saw the united states recalling loans made by european countries in a bid to sustain. Its own people. Unfortunately germany had been relying on investments. From the united states to stabilize its economy when this flow of money dried up it caused millions of germans to lose their jobs overnight which through the majority of the population further into poverty in wall street. I don't know. I'm i'm thinking of all the and i know that we're on the comparing what's happening now. It's crazy how history now is like a big thing. It's crazy that i mean it's not necessarily crashing. But no it's the news it's going to. It's going yeah. The stocks will go down. I'm sorry to tell you we're not going to the moon guys. Go into the earth's core and we got first class tickets. Yes maybe we'll see it later. He's down there some of it keeping a space for all of us. He's he's taking over like the devil like the devil took over again the devils five coach. Shit you making a lot of good points. Yeah is crazy. Like the connections due to nowadays and it is true his is repeat itself. It's kind of scary if we don't stop things where it could go like. This is a red herring. There's a lot of red herrings. You cases an orange airings feeling humiliated. Humiliated defeated frustrated hungry. Many turned against the jews whose businesses had survived the onslaught of the great depression. The perception of outsiders flourishing in germany while germans himself tried not to starve to death killed their anger even more and spurred them to join the ranks of the nazi party. This growing support for the nazis was proven by the fact that in nineteen thirty. They managed to score a whopping seven seats in parliament. A far cry from the fourteen positions that they had secured during the election. Only six years prior with that. Hitler became the leader of the second-largest political party in germany. This position gave him untold levels of power which used to argue against parliamentary democracy. Instead he pushed for a single minded government with a strong mandate claiming that this would be the only way to escape the economic depression and bring the country back to its former glory germany. Where's the merch start selling merch germany. And everything shit sounds about right. I'm glad you guys are here to make this late. This argument proved to be successful. Although what really consolidated hitler's power was the display of aggression. Violence that the nazis displayed in the years that followed their dominance in the one thousand nine hundred ninety elections for instance a horde of them assaulted fifty-seven members of the german communist party in reichstag well. The essay carried out frequent attacks against socialists. Communists their actions were fully supported by hitler who by then was no longer attempting to hide his extremist views. This spurred several of the country's most well-known industrialists to fear an uprising. One that was echoed by the bolshevik revolution in russia fearing for their safety and their wealth. They petitioned the aging president of germany. Von hindenburg to give into the nazi party's demands. Despite his reluctance von hindenburg granted their request and in one thousand nine hundred thirty. Three hitler became the chancellor of germany. Now do you know which products and services won't demand hitler become chancellor of germany. God the ones that support this podcast. We're on a roll. A segue only get better and better or worse and worse depending on how you look at it. i guess. If you're the sponsor is worse than sponsors probably be like josh. This is your last chance ciller. Can we get a better please. We know you were advocating us to not make hitler chancellor lax still association. Don't make germany great again and talk about merge super suss mind. yeah like. We're glad you didn't put us in the abortion took someday we'll get there. You gotta make an aug merge though now would be dope now. You got free bread august. Yeah i love that okay. You don't have fred moore chat with fred and fred hanging out with august playing the viola removal make a shirt called the shittiest instrument like the instrument that started the war the instrument that started world war two. And it's just a picture of with the foot posters make itself. Hey this is starting to sound like propaganda that we're throwing out though maybe host theirs is not the best idea yeah. Maybe we'll start with a nice tote bag and work our way to posters. Thoughts are good white. People love tote bags that do throw everything. Today's episode is presented by skin store for over twenty years. The skin store has been the number one destination for premium. Skin care hair care and beauty products with over eight thousand different products from three hundred different brands. The skin store. Has you covered for all your hair cosmetic supplements and of course skin-care needs find. Your favorite brands like md face ola plex and more all in one place with gifts with every purchase. Right now the skin store is offering our listeners. Twenty percent off your next purchased by using the code pod. That's code p o d for twenty percent off your next purchase at skin store dot com slash pod dot list. Skin store have the confidence to tackle the day ahead. Exclusions apply the nazis launched a wave of unchecked terror across the european continent. Aided by the loyal essay s you're used to subjugate political opponents and anyone deemed to be an enemy of the party. The ss in particular played a critical role during the second world war as the self proclaimed political soldier of the nazi party. Their responsibilities were vast encompassing nearly all the state operations ice for instance the align s or the general s took care of the police force both foreign and domestic espionage and racial matters. It was the division that oversaw the gestapo germany's feared secret police who were tasked with rounding up jews and those that the nazis deemed to be undesirable or inferior to them on the other hand the way in s s or armed s were the elite combat troops who fought alongside the regular german armed forces. There were also known as fighters fanatical to the nazi party. It's all ship word is long. Germany is ridiculous. Language toting cope fiver band. That's all one word. I don't know how to pronounce it if you know how to pronounce it you know. Let's talk bag. It's tote bag subdivision. The deaths hands battalion. Jesus we're also the ones administering germany's massive network of concentration camps where they carried out a systematic genocide of the jewish race. This particular group included men like rudolf hoss the longest serving commandment of the offshoots concentration and extermination camps during the nuremberg trial. In nineteen forty-six haas sent shockwaves throughout the entire courtroom. When he wrote the affidavit that quote i commanded aushwitz until the first of december nineteen forty-three and estimated. That at least two million five hundred thousand victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning and at least another half a million succumb to starvation and disease making a total of three million dead. This figure represents about seventy percent or eighty percent of all persons sent offshoots as prisoners. The remaining having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industry and quote when the prosecution accused him of murdering more than three million people haas chillingly replied that he'd only been responsible for two and a half million as the rest had died from either disease or starvation which is crazy that he was like only and he was two and a half million. That's yeah like what are you downplaying. It like i don't understand. One is too many like jesus christ. I absolutely yeah like we have whole documentaries on people who kill one person right. Yes killed two and a half million people unfathomable like just a crazy number two in your head around like less people have died from corona so far. Yeah i mean that's not demeaning corona like you know what. I'm trying to say a terrible. I'm doing terribly right now. I'm on floundering. We'll just continue on in the end. He was hanged on april sixteenth. Hey my birthday. Nineteen forty seven on a makeshift gallo. Constructed next to the crematorium of the former auch was concentration camp. They should should have put him on. One of the gas chamber gas chamber burnham you know what i mean i yeah i definitely deserves way worse than god he deserves. They should have just put them in. The middle of germany and germany invited all the jewish people who had been torn from their homes. Place them in a place in the middle of them and just let them beat them to death. Row poetic justice right there. Yeah yeah and then like yeah. I like obviously that's that's a stretch but And violent but it shouldn't be like he took out a human aspect of what he did to those millions of people like. He deserves nothing less. Yes jesus christ. Yeah i guess the counter to that would be if we stoop to that level. Then we're no better than them but at the same time. It's like fuck him. Right stoop counterpoint. You can kind of justify that like you know for for those mass murderers you give them the electric chair or or lethal injection. But i mean at the most. I mean i'm not downplaying any of that either. I mean at the most the most prolific serial killer. Pike killed like one hundred thirty people at the most some like that. Who yeah. I don't know who it is but andrea this is nothing compared to like millions nuts and i mean as you said before one is too many more just too many is too and it's crazy that it got to that level but the contempt and hatred and brainwashing took it to that place which is again and i keep hammering this point home. We should be checked in social media and and current political landscapes otherwise might end up happening and it is happening in china right now which i have completely glossed over and and yeah like those are actual concentration camps. It's like how the fuck do we get back around to this. Yeah yeah and why is nothing happening. That's that's another topic though. Maybe we'll go we'll do. We'll do a whole dictatorship of china. And i'll never be allowed in china the ss and the nazi party. In general filled with men like haas was so entrenched in their ideologies that the death of millions of innocent people were callously written off as necessary to achieve their goals in their quest for a unification of germany and a dominant aryan race. They wiped off generations of families and almost exterminated an entire race. Unfortunately the defeat of the axis powers in world. War two do aside of adolf hitler. Nuremberg trials weren't enough to completely eradicate the ideas that the nazis espoused these remain alive and well today causing horrifying acts of aggression discrimination violence and even terrorism across the world. That is the end of hitler and the nazi party. We made it. I would like to an end. It off with the warning is still a prominent idea. We may have killed off the members but the ideologies still remain absolute and especially now with the abuse of asian. people around. the world is is ridiculous. I don't understand when we will come to a point where we're like. We stopped seeing each other as racist. And we see each other as people equals. How is it hard. Was that hard to do that. So crazy that you bring that out. Because i have a seven year old nephew and he's going to school and asked him when the new school year started. I asked him. I was like oh. Who's your friend blah blah blah. And he says whatever some name and my oh what is he like. I'm like oh what is the and he's like. Oh he's humid and i was like. Wow and but then i ask him like what are you philippino. He did get other races races. Yeah yeah he. He's just he's human. I was like yeah. You're right but which is you know like a kid can understand why can't grown adults get to that point but shows that it's like a societal. That's it's taught. Yeah exactly the hatred is taught now because you can put kids in a room with any other kid and they will play with the kid. They might fight argue. But they're not gonna find exactly over a toy they're not gonna fight and argue over race or whose superior to the other. They're just going to be like. Hey i was playing with. We should take that from kids. I think for sure nothing else. They're idiots otherwise breath. But i think there's there's also more into it than than you know like just the fact that people are kind of idiotic when it comes to seeing color or seeing all that but i think in a in a in a larger scheme of things i think the social economic reform is necessary as well. Because you're right. Some people might look down on others because of their their status in life. Like a you're middle class. Meanwhile i'm a broker for like wall street. Like i'm a look down on you because you're not in my same level therefore i don't have that respect for you and i think that's when literally shit rolls downhill and At your big. There's just so much more things factoring why we can't just respect each other as people for who we are yet and i like how you bring up class because i think if we were to look at how we're divided like race should be one of the last things on the list it should. It should be bottom of the list people but the middle class and the lower lower class should definitely be in unison and agree like fuck the the The elite percent. Yeah because they're the ones fucking you over and manipulating you into haning the racist like like they're the ones lobbying for for systems that keep other racist down and i don't i don't i don't understand. This is what bothers me every day. I'm a huge food guy. Okay and as when it comes to like diversity and other cultures and all that it would be so boring to just have one yeah quote unquote master raised. When you can go fly down to cancun. Like mr ted over here grab you. Some freaking amazing like tacos are berea or go to india and some cursory good japan have some arena all ashim and all that stuff. It's like i just hope people understand that like the more diverse. We are the more things that we can appreciate culturally in culture wise that people can kind of borrow from each other and like expand on or from and just and sometimes make something new exactly. Yeah absolutely yeah. Or sometimes i like the most. The fusion of things creates better. Amazing stuff exactly. Asian fusion restaurants is another thing like i love tacos with korean barbecue. Holy shit like combining those worlds together like. Oh my god. I mean yeah i was gonna say something but i forget what my pointless damage. The white guy lost now fox. A but it's it's what your seven year old nephew said. We're human and we're all humans. We're all in it together. If we fail we all fail the other and if we succeed we all succeed together. What we should start looking at it as well are we that good. We wrapped up the The political part of the conversation. This episode just went crazy. Yeah i mean. I think it's great. I think it's conversations to be had. Yeah for sure. I love promoting these ideas. Which is why. I love having goes on. You have brilliant ideas and i. It doesn't always come through on. Your podcast is true. We haven't we had one serious episode. It was about the whole capitol riots and whatever we turned it on super serious for like fifteen minutes. And i'm sure dummies like chase next on accident. No i think you guys have great points of view. And and. I'm glad i could get you on this episode to promote some of those and i hope even if you are right when you're listening to this going like those dump socialists or whatever you're trying to think of us i hope you take at least a few of the ideas and and at least consider some of the ideas we've promoted. I know this is at the very end. And you probably haven't gotten this part but if you have good for you and i appreciate you at least hearing out the other side. Not even the other side. I think just the human side accolades nothing to do with policy. Just just care about other humans and hopefully they'll care about you now to wrap that up before the show today. I have a new segment. That i don't know if you guys are aware of because it started up in the new year. I think i noticed listened after each cult we do something called cult critique basically my guest tonight take a look at the cult we just discussed and give it a rating of five stars. As if you're writing something on yelp and we give comments on why we gave that rating so it's completely arbitrary. You can give it a five star in a shit called again or you can give it a zero zero star and be like shit called never going there again. Whatever that's why the comments. I felt a star system was just arbitrary. So are you guys. Ready to rate the nazi party. As well as hitler. I guess thrown i. Now you can go first. I want to see which way you're going. I just gotta give it a one star. This called you. it's no good copy of what i did. I don't obviously. I did a better people have done it more. Bigly daniela one-star and i didn't go to jail it. Did he. go into detail for it. Shit i should've went first book. Damn how you can follow that one up. Do a hillary clinton impression. I did not sleep. That's bill who desert what is it. It's a women's history month and you pick. Bill canceled and john on the dumbfounded podcasts. And you can't get cancelled if you're not big enough. We got like three fans. Obviously i'm gonna give it a zero this this court wise court wise is a five like if you were into colts and you were thinking of joining a this was like it was a movement but yeah but for me. It's going to be zero. It's just one of the worse coats quoted on political party but quote unquote call one of the worst ones out there and just crazy. Yeah and. I don't know where i go from here. Because i've kind of peaked with the nazi party. But yeah definitely hard to give. The nazis a five star reviews. I can understand that. Well i appreciate you guys coming on again. I mean definitely you know those two weeks hard two weeks we put in before coming back on this podcast. I know we did this last time. But tell fred's where they can listen to the dumbfounded podcast. You want Patrick at this time oh shit put me on the spot you can find you guys find us on any platform. Just search up the dumbfounded pod. We also have no let me do this shit. Okay now okay so you want me to do and then you tell me do you. You're killing do feel inadequate. I got it You can fight us wherever you find your. I know you just listen to us. Speak smartly but we're really dumb at the dump found dead pod so you could find this wherever you find your podcast on apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher check out our website. Were on the dumbfounded. Pod dot com and also subscribe on our youtube channel. It that subscribe button while we're not going to be on a video but it right there all throw some links in the buyer. We once again josh on again after two weeks. But yeah definitely will give the dumbfounded. Listen they're amazing. To listen to as i said out of how many episodes you guys that now thirty thirty. I think we're close to a little over thirty. Yeah around thirty thirty episodes forty. Maybe when the by the time this comes out just fly through episodes. It's crazy and in those forty episodes as they said they have fifty minutes of clarity so just search that. Download the episode. You gotta listen to find the clarity just like an easter egg. Tell you which one is which thank you for listening and thank you. John and patrick for coming on today. We will see you guys next time later.

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"Jason sanjay willing to the podcast at happened last night. The amazing comeback for the under staving off elimination. They get the win. And now there's a game seven and who doesn't love a game seven no matter what sport. It is key to game seven. Can i get you tune in a little bit little bit curious enough to see who won. I mean we'll be able to do it. I'll go with you if it's something to go final but they're going to be in tampa but i'm not i'm not no i'm not setting down to figure out when it's coming on on it. That's just not input. If i text you third period. It's tied would you watch probably not. What if i sent you. Video clip of the game winning goal. Would you watch the video clip. I'll probably watch so. At least i can get you engaged. Watch it doesn't mean i'm engaged. You sent it to me. So i'm gonna watch engage. I'm not meaning. I'm engaged if i told you that meant a lot to me. Would you then say it means a lot to him. Let me let me give it a minute. It means a lot to us what i would say. I said it means a lot to han. That's cool but he likes tonight. But i want them to win so bad just because i need to get you at the coliseum. Forget because let me hooked the islanders. Maybe you had to see the honors damien. Woody was literally just failed on bell on the ground. He was celebrated jumping around like crazy. Nobody was underneath dicey. He's on jay wills present about horror fall man he jumped right back on there being d would he jumped right back up though and he told me right away he's like i just fell out like he was so happy now. Did y'all run in each other or did you text meet up. I saw we. We were in the same section. Oh same-sex looking right here on the fan boy sections some do just it was scattered about. Gideon's y'all hoes. Y'all y'all bugs went down. Below sees this so ridiculous. That building is so small. You could do that building. Tiny real small building in there for everybody knows each other. It's going to. It's like going to a reunion. You know like people always say so and so's over here you know there's the long island man in it. the game. a lot of people knew me. Alan how what's you doing. Good on the radio son all that like. That's your that's one of those things and it's like they saw me watching the game. Like the bucks hawks game so it's like what are you doing. You gotta watch this game to tell. Ki- wenski coming everybody. They won't bart scott and they want you there. That's all everybody wants. Now you've ever been to the coliseum you play for the jets you on the only went to a concert just concert which see it has to do with that boy back then it was like bad boy reunion or something weird like that like it was like a bad we. It was like puffy and all like a hip hop deal. Yeah it was like a summer some sort of summer concert with like a whole bunch of artists and yeah and i think i think bad way was the headliner. Leave but it was cool. It was a good guys back when that place was a dump. It was adapt. Yeah it was but you with the jets. You probably have. Vip got in there right. Yeah was taken care of. Let's just put it that way you'll be taken care of if they get to the stanley cup final. I gotta get a bill more time it. Yeah because we were at the marriott that marriott hotel or whatever you that. Mary was the maria. Why would you stay there. Be so i stay there. I stayed that mary for while when i first got to the jets. Well yeah because they practice at hofstra remember. Remember remember when i signed the jets us. I was one of those held out late. A held out in a missed all the training camp. I could find anywhere to live. That i was one of those one of those. I was one of those guys that you wrote about. Talk crap about keyshawn johnson this day seven of the whole sort of saying he's still still not close. Yes sean and it would be racism. Meaning he moved talking me. He is in town but not in uniform guard. City hotel No i stayed at the marriott. Gordon city hotel was just to finally got paid right up and he just took care of me. You found got paid not complaining so there's players who are playing for contracts this year in the nfl. We talked about this earlier in the show is bringing it back because we went through a list of players. And there's one name on this list that you have that we didn't get to earlier that really catches my attention so. Nfl players playing for who's playing for their contracts. Now there's everybody that's up for off. The rookie deals as peers were upright and baker. Mayfield's going to get paid josh l. But one of those from that quarterback class that you mentioned the players who playing for their next contract is sam yeah with carolina. Yes you have optimism. That like he's not going to be in that same realm as those two guys as far as know next one up a quarterback you're going to get paid whatever the market tells you. I can't imagine he. What would he have to do to even come close to getting a big deal. He's got. He's got to show significant progress from his tenure with the jets in lead his team into the playoffs. Like those guys did in showed him that. He's the future quarterback of the tee but he'd have to have a prolific season surprise prove season. Isn't it for four thousand yards thirty touchdowns nine interceptions in two fumbles. That would be pretty good pretty good for him. I still feel this is approved season. Yeah that's why you know this situation. They've already picked up the fifth year option so they could stay with the fifth year option and let him play it out or they can renegotiate the deal to give him extension it. This is the year for him to win the coaching staff over. So they can start to think about long term extension. Yeah he needs to. He really wasn't. What has any of those guys done of. Outside of a lamar jackson who won. Mvp i mean he had a tremendous. He had a conversation tremendous share in the conversation. Sam donaldson have a tremendous year and get into that conversation next year. This is upcoming season and maker may feel only been to one playoff right well. It was pretty pretty good. I understand that but it's only been one season. He's gone to the playoffs. They have approved. Sam ginn golden of wells. Well for sam. The change of scenery might be the most important part for him Rodney pete told. Espn sweet pete. That going to carolina will help him darnold. He told david. Newton quote the fans at carolina passionate and they love football took every firm base really but he said it but it's not the nastiness of philadelphia or new york. Where can get extremely personal. So that's going to be a relief for him. Now you've played in new york. You understand how it works south carolina. Too right yeah. that's true. I kind of wanted. I kind of want to take him to task here. Santona was never treated poorly here by media orphans. I don't think he ever faced any type of nastiness or anything personal no whether he was fairly criticized when he didn't play well but a lot of times he was the guys that we said. It was adam gazes fault. Not sam darnold's. I think you look at it as unwarranted criticism for guy who didn't really get a fair shot based on the things that they put around him in the coaches and so with that being said it's almost like the fan base to a degree powder on a necessarily at times when they became frustrated with him because they felt like he was supposed to everybody else up. Yes you can't lift people up. That's not good. It's just the reality of like right is is is much as i love God what's his name. Running back to old franco frank. Gore says i love frank gore. He came lift that up for going. Got nothing left. This is not frank gore from san francisco forty niners. This is frank gore who at some point. Very soon life will be a grandfather. That's you know. Frank gore and got a kid. Play college serious. Yeah like you can't lift that up. You allow his best offense a weapon in in robby anderson a gold sign in carolina because you elected not to give him money that carolina gave him is so you start to look at all of those sort of things you hired adam gates as your head coach peyton manning did say he was a good higher would be that was the that was the reference i mean i guess if you hired him based on with peyton said whatever i mean i don't you know because i'm not hire somebody based on what peyton manning says or anybody else for that matter. I'm hiring based on my knowledge. In what i know as the president general manager of a team not hire him based on. What charley casserly says not doing that. It just doesn't work for me. That's what it was though. Unfortunately but you know again for sam it is a huge year for him on many levels it could be a year when he gets them security because right now his career is pretty much. You know. it's you don't know where it's going. Yeah but words. He button a reset button carolina with christian. Mccaffrey in his former team. Made robby anderson and joe brady is the coach and whatever else they have to put around him. I think he'll be okay. I think you're going to be surprised that how effective he's going to be at the quarterback spot and if he's not then he'll be back at the beach in los angeles at some point in time surfing. Well he'll be what what happened with winston mariota. Guys he'll go somewhere and be a backup and try to continue the somebody will give him another chance but third overall pick now. He's got a couple of challenges fourth year. It's gonna be time to see what he can do. So that's the one guy another quarterback you had on your list here of players playing for a contract. His collar murray with arizona. How much of what he would. He will get financially off this year. We based on if clicks cliff kingsbury is coach going. After i think a lot i think a lot because again. They're in the position to have to pick up the fifth year option. Make a decision. A long term extensions make a decision on cliff kingsbury because in all honesty. This is the time that you really dive in. You start to evaluate the general manager. In times you start to evaluate cliff. Kingsbury because kyla murray is in arizona because of cliff kingsbury Ability to convince the cardinals organization that that's the right guy the leaders to where we wanna go. And they traded. Josh rosen based on the recommendation of cliff kingsbury right in his system. That he says is gonna take the nfl by storm and he's the young innovator and he's got the house bill the mountain backdrop. Everybody on social media goes crazy and he has all that has all that for you but it's not the best has gotten so far is eight eight and tough division. So there's lots of watch their no some money to be made. There's no doubt you'll eventually start to hear colin. Murray start to talk about highlights. Baseball has already is as you see what i'm saying. He jay wills ubi presented by progressive insurance allen haunt infra zubin august. Join us on. The goodyear hotline made this conference finals. But we're not satisfied extremely hard to his moments but jobs not done style. Even lookout air comes trade. He shook the three. They left the wide open. Sticking by rebound likely cappella. Up in these atlanta hawks. Folks never ever count the. There's been fun playing with this group. We just keep until the end no matter what the score is star is born star developing right before our eyes superstar. That's what we're wondering right. Now let's ask somebody that was a superstar and maybe still is and was also a teammate. With trae young. That's vince carter. Vc espn analyst. Who joins us right now. In the goodyear hotline. Good morning all right so you you you let me know because i always say real recognizes real is trae young growing into superstardom or is there. I mean he's there he's there this is what he wanted. He wanted this from day one when he walked into that locker room. He wanted to be a superstar. He wanted to put these numbers up each and every night and put the league on notice he just needed to learn how to go about their instill win now. He understands the formula of how to win. The organization has done a great job of putting the players that he needs to dominate and utilize all of his skills shooting passing floater loud threat. He has everything he needs. Offensively to win and be the superstar that we're seeing. Vc man something good good good let me ask you. How much confidence do the hawks trae. Young have right now after taking game. One in milwaukee confidence i mean you see the swag you see off the backboard you see shaking those haters off before you suits the three. He believes they believe you know they. They got that opportunity. It's like you think about this. Did you even think the hawks would make it this far. No so now exactly. So now that they're here and your four games away. They're going for so they believe they. They beat some of the best thing we didn't take. They'll beat the knicks. We didn't think they'll beat the sixers and now the here now. They've taken game one and have taken control home court. So yes they're confident and they believe they just need to stick to the script stick to the strip. Don't don't don't play outside of who you are. And what has gotten mir and they. They'll make this a tough series for the bucks. What what is it that the bucks need to take control back like because clearly make a damn three. We all feel like felt like a bucks should be a gentleman. Sweep coming into this series. Now what do they need to do to. Just maybe get some control team. Listen i look at how they played them. Yes you said. Make them shots first and foremost but look at defensively. I think they're not making shots. Offensively consistently and the air was being blown out of them. Every time trae young hits the three hits gets into the paint but their defensive strategy is going to have to change your. I know you don't want the big up so trey beach your big well then you. They're gonna have to trap him and get the ball out of trays hand early. Entrust that his other shooters. Don't make shots. Because right now controlled the game. He dictated how the game was going to be. Played for the hawks in real quick. Think about how. Trade play in verse the knicks in game one versus the sixers game one facilitator dominating second half this game. He was dominating from start to finish and the books can allow him to get in that group. Vince carter joins us right now. The goodyear hotline your career unceremoniously ended because of the pandemic gain the mir mira like crazy game that you guys played against the knicks over to other than it. Was you know we knew this season was over with so weird that night. I'll never forget. Just how that that whole thing and then the got all that stuff was wonderful but still. You are a teammate of trae. Young so you again have that intimate knowledge of what he was about earlier in his career. Before this moment for here so give us insight then is if you saw something about him that told you like. This is going to be something before we knew because at that time when you walked off the floor that night it was. The hawks gave up. Luca danni for this guy and now it's dallas gave up this guy for lucas. What did you send him back then. The might have told you that this was coming. I think it was a fair trade. I think every bowl teams are happy with what they got for trae met. You knew he was special. You knew he had it. He wanted to prove it. So bad day. One that yeah. I'm little but i star and i'm gonna be star and we're going to win you just like. I said he just needed to learn how to go about that and he wanted to prove so bad i can score with the best but with scoring. You want your team to win so you can move on. And now that he understands that formula he is dominating and he's making it tough because now trace quicker than some guard he gets into the paint. You step your big up. He knows the make the lobby because he has allowed threat he gets into the paint. He just florida well. Then if you you bring your defense and your shrink your defense well he has shooters so the organization realize what they have in trae young and they put the right pieces around him for him to be the star that we're seeing vce. I'm not sure of the top of my head if you played for either one of these teams are both the clippers in the sons and the western conference. Final game. Night it was. I know you play for eight. Oh man come on. I do oh. Cpi three possible return game three. Is this overweight. Takes the floor. Is it the clippers. Might as well start to look for cancun it could. It goes both ways this thing. What they're doing and how they're playing a campaign. Managing the game like chris paul deb devon booker managing the game in game. One like chris. Paul so yes. It's going to be tough for the clippers. But you've got to put some faith in tai lue and what they've done being down to every series pretty much and coming back and finding a way. Does the clippers win the series. I don't know because i think adding chris. Paul makes things a little tougher. Because we saw what chris paul did put like. What thirty five in a close game. So you have to give some some confidence in thailand and his adjustments because one. He did last series and he is. He made the adjustment of going small to to take advantage of go bare now. What adjustment will he made for game three to to find some success because right now they're searching scratching. I mean when you're you're getting blown out and then you lose in a tough one. And no chris paul there. How much pressure this paul george carey into this game after missing those two free throws that could essentially into game two for the clippers with a w going back home but he missed him. Is there a lot of pressured. It'll be placed on him to show up tonight. I think so. You probably put that pressure on himself and he could say i'm gonna go out and play my game and do what i need to do very true. What if i'm the coach. I'm put him in situations to succeed. I'm gonna get him the ball early and often. I want to get that confidence. I wanna get that bad taste out of my mouth. So we know. We're have to lean on. Paul george to play well not even just score but the make the right play and i think when they see an aggressive. Pg good things can happen for them at home. At first it was like they can't win at home and all of a sudden they can win at home. So you give them that. But paul george is this gonna have to play his game. They'll play outside of yourself. Don't overdo it but be aggressive. Biggest difference is not having those cardboard cutouts actual fans at staples. That certainly should limit to definitely. Well these see. I know you didn't you didn't play. Il played on eight different teams. It's great to have you on this tv on. Espn thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it all right. So vince carter on the goodyear hotline brought to you by goodyear. Helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more coming up a surprising shutout in a place. That doesn't have them often. That's after key. Has this from goodyear. 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At least a half dozen states will be allowed to start making money from third party. Endorsements state laws guarantee the players can profit from selling the rights to their name image and likeness in a wide variety of ways is plans to vote at some point in the next week on rule changes that could open up similar opportunities for every athlete under its authority and someone who would be is trying to get actually in the forefront of this jake olsen Former usc long snapper piano. You know him very well. He joins us right now on the goodyear hotline and jake. I know you guys are working on an online platform to kind of get to the forefront of this help maybe get some athletes to be able to book Some speaking events and what not to be able to make money off of name image and likeness. What would you like to see happen with this. going forward. And how do you think it's gonna work absolutely does. Yeah so. I think it's interesting. 'cause i say you know there's a lot of people in the space that are are kind of guessing telling you. Hey this is gonna how it's going to happen. And a lot of people are saying they're experts and i'm not claiming i'm an expert but i'm playing. I'm one of the hugh individuals who ever been in college. And actually kinda. Get a pass for this lightness. So i at least know what to expect. Or what kind of goes on when you are in college and receiving money for appearances in your name image and likeness to go through how that was possible for me but with my company engaged. My kind of goal is to steer the ship for a lot of these athletes who are going to kind of how those floodgates open for people reaching out wanting to book them for again speeches or appearances or maybe these athletes when kind of take the reins themselves and kind of create maybe pop up events where they meet fifteen half hour after practice or on random day and sign autographs Or you know maybe they want to create a sweepstakes where people can enter where the raising money for charity that they like. Whatever the deal is. I wanna make sure that A very structured process In legitimate honest. Because i say that there's gonna be a lot of chaos when it does open up if there isn't a structure there isn't a legitimate way. All this is taking care of. Someone's going to get hurt and i can't imagine that Maybe somewhere defense. You believe they're hoping someone gets hurt because if someone does get hurt this to go out the window very quickly colorado you. Now i'm twenty four man you got to you. Got the deep voice going now all of a sudden i woke me up a little. It's a little morning. I did like an authoritative. I run a company boy. I was a kid so it's like now he's a little bit older and i'm listening to him talk and i'm like damn he's getting tell. Tell jake story. Hey i'll never apologized for voice. You know i saw good. Jake is a former. Usc football player. Who as a kid Lost his vision in you know he had to have the surgery but he remained on our usc team. And i don't remember exactly which game you had the opportunity. The first snap which came was there was a stanford. It was western michigan which was his the first name in two thousand seventeen. Yeah yeah twenty seventeen. He added the first snap as long snapper of four. So that was that was pretty cool and that opportunity with that being said jake. What was your reaction to the supreme court ruling on a nine though on monday now that will allow athletes to get certain benefits associated with education. I e laptops tutoring things of that nature. Yeah well i thought that really in particular was really beneficial to a lot of athletes. you know. I think it's kind of ridiculous that they were even trying to argue against just educational benefits to some of these guys I think what was more damning about that was the language that the justices used. Which by the way you know. Unanimous unanimous vote is quite something to be said. Today's climate but it's true. I mean all these justices like this is absolutely ridiculous. What's been going on over the last seventy years practically and so. I know that there's going to be fallout from this decision. We already seen kind of some cases saying well. We're even try to go further in our in our case because we know how much support there is in how how poorly that supreme court looks down on what the has done. And it's a shame. Because i think that will open up doors that maybe shouldn't be opened You know. I think going to a salary based or your pain. Athletes from from a school sampling is something that we really need to think through. That isn't necessarily just smart to to agree on right away. I really do think that's a a much deeper conversation. The name image likeness but unfortunately the way that there's all fall now is that. Nc delay drew a line in the sand a hard line of the stand and so once that line pass everything becomes open and so instead of incrementally something or green to kind of take a few steps your few sets there. They just completely drew that line in the sand. So i'm hoping that doesn't occur in the next however many months and years of again just anything coming to the supreme court. They're they're just gonna pass it because they think then say he's been so horrendous and what they've they've done over the last like seventy years but i think name image likeness is a great start because it is fair. It's reasonable it's something that probably honestly happens already but it just needs to happen in a real structure legitimate way jake olsen former usc trojan loan. Snapper join us this morning. Kisha on keyshawn. J. will and Zubin almost said my osho back in l. a. And that got you thinking about southern california. I know right. Jackie always thinking about something california. What what resources will student. Athletes have to navigate through to kind of understand this new wave with thinking by the nc two way so that they don't find themselves in deep water right so this is kind of twofold. One is just on a personal level. And i've been asked quite a lot you know. He's just going to distract. Played from their quality of play is going to distract them from you. Know what they're there to do which is play sports and playing. Well represented the team in the University and the answer to that is they really have to sit down and say what am i passionate about. What what do you want it. Tell who wanna help. If you're just doing it for the money that's going to get old very quickly as anyone who's ever taken a job or anything strictly for money. It doesn't pan out in the end. That's not the gratification is shaking hands knowing. You're making a difference knowing that you changed. Someone's life because your actions in the story you told and so that from a personal sam point with these athletes. I want to get that and had the money's nice and it's well deserved but that can't be the priority on the other side of it you have to understand sensor is a lot of money involved any time. There's a lot of money involved. There's sharks in those sharks are gonna wanna get their hands on it if it's justified or not and so that's where again you want it. You see these companies have legitimate processes that are overseen by either comply offices. And we're working on that right now. and in that way there isn't there are situations where someone does get taking advantage of or there's situations where someone dealing with someone who doesn't have the best interest in for the athletes. There's gonna be a ton of that so we really need to be careful with that. So i'd say these athletes one check your priorities to make sure you're doing it legitimate. Don't just believe someone if they come up soon after practice. Hey i got a ten thousand dollar deal for you coming through this this this you know you're gonna make sure that goes through a strict process process at the vetted. Yeah there's no doubt about how that's the part of course anytime there's money to be made there's always people that are trying to make money off you making your money and that is somewhere. A lot of college athletes younger people especially don't have the proper guidance it can turn into a problem and another distraction that they certainly don't need j. great stuff. It was great to talk to you. Thanks so much and good luck with the company going forward. No not good look fight on a fight on my prayers man. Thank you appreciate all right. J. goal so to get on the goodyear hotline and key. That's something we trojan etiquette. But go ahead okay. I'm willing to learn as always we've never talked about that. Part of it. Is the people taking advantage of athletes. Who could make money off their name. Image likeness yeah. This is going to be those ironic that show up on. How can i now the leeches. Now wanna make any of you making your mom. You really supposed to be getting ten dollars. And you're getting too because they're pocketing the eight because they set up the they suck you into something you think. That's a good sign. This and i do the same thing. You're really supposed to begin experts. You're getting water right. Yeah and that's that's where it gets real careful so somebody like jake trying to make sure that doesn't happen all right coming up next. You know. caller let eight eight say. Espn eight seven nine. Three seven seven six turned away in and let us know. Trae young is already a superstar. That's after key. Has this from hulu still pounding on that remote control night after night. Who has all the shows and movies you love and before you ask. Do they have the handmaid's tale in grey's anatomy or sportscenter. The answer is simply. Yes whether you're into live sports or news or war winning originals and premium channels. It's time to have hulu hulu plans. They start at five ninety nine thousands of shows movies and who lose originals and you get at other premium channels in live tv as well and it's all on the same app so you're not having to download a million different things. 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Meant to you know what it takes to become a dams superstar everything. But you know what. I'll say this just like last year. You know what you got our attention. Now he's going to continue to move. Everything says he's moving in the right direction. But when you start labeling people superstars minutes crazier let's spin it five anthony from illinois last week case had something about. He can't believe that yadi was in the The all time greats. No you mean partly madness. The market madness. Yes you can't believe that he's representing when people like lebron now. I'm chicago cubs fan. I live in southern illinois and there is no one who has met more to the city of saint. Louis then yadi. I would take yati just about over any catcher. What's your thoughts. You're right look market. Loves him but lebron james is international. Okay lebron james. Like soccer player. But it's not cold international memphis. I'm just called market medicine that mark everybody market. 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Talk Radio - Monday Morning Quarterback Playoffs week 1

The Sports Comedy Show

28:52 min | 10 months ago

Talk Radio - Monday Morning Quarterback Playoffs week 1

"Hello and welcome to the sports comedy. I'm paul salerno the created and hosted the show. Today is monday january eleventh. Today's theme on talk. Radio will be monday. Morning quarterback kind of exciting. This is our first monday morning quarterback of the new year. Big day in the nfl. Yesterday we had six wildcard games. So we're gonna talk about them here on monday morning quarterback some of these big stars might not be happy. Because it's monday. I it's on talk radio. Okay thank you. Yeah some of the big names. That might not be liking monday morning right now. certainly one of them would be big ben in pittsburgh he's been on the shows artem no for retired or not but i hope they want me back. Well truth. is that want you back. You don't have a better option. That being the pittsburgh steelers some of the other big names. Who probably don't like monday with about old man. Failed philip rivers. I think it's pretty much a done deal years to retire. What a career but losing out. Here's one that's got to be really happened. Somebody who's having a tough monday morning. That would be russell wilson boy. He just got clobbered on saturday. He's got to run around the these these guns monday. Russell wilson have a top one talk about that. And then what about king henry derrick henry yesterday was supposed to keep rolling rolling rolling. Well he ruled writing to a wall of baltimore ravens and only racked up four yards per game. So he's gotta be wondering. I don't like mondays. This is the back injury. Monday morning quarterback looking always games. As i mentioned the six begins yesterday. The playoffs are in full swing. next week. go to the division round. now friday show will Do the matchups in look at that and do the mattress and look at those game for nets getting kind of look back at these and then we also have a college football championship game tonight. We'll touch on the show is over. We got a ohio state alabama. This is for all the marbles in college football. That's kind of exciting to first. Let's do a little congratulations to the buffalo bills buffalo bills. They just keep rolling will build. Take down the colts and all man rivers. That was our first game of the playoffs to start it off on saturday. Once again josh l. stephan dead's the whole team was involved in. It was a slow start but they did come back in When twenty seven twenty four interesting game because at the end there was twenty four point toward in the fourth quarter so it ended up being a high scoring. Felt like most people thought it would but for most of the game was not ice. Cream of there was only three point score by buffalo. Fill in the third quarter but at the end of the game. These were both teams. Were going back and forth buffalo too much ear once again. As i mentioned it was josh allen in stephan digs buffalo's got that quality team. It's more than just ham on the receiving they got gabriel davis ago beasley even moscow for receptions in his. He's a running back so buffalo is learning to mix it up quite well. Their defense held on. You know philip rivers as one of the persons. I said we've been talking about on monday morning. Quarterback i think we're at the end of the road for failed. He had a good game. Three hundred nine yards to. Td's no sas no interceptions. But he was just the the offense. A buffalo is truth was just simply stronger than the offense of indianapolis. Now if you remember on lascaux. When i preview this. I said the colts have a running game. The bills have a throwing game. One of these games is going to a class and it did happen in the fourth quarter and it was the bills who was able to overcome with their throwing game as they were able to put They're able to put up ten points in the fourth quarter in off the colts of a running attack offense it. They had to go in that. Put the pressure on philip rivers and he just wasn't able to convert on each time down so buffalo takes us one twenty seven twenty four first time. They win playoff game in twenty five years and so they keep going incredible game for them. They will have a home game next week. Congratulations to the buffalo bills. The bills mafia. If you haven't checked out the bills mafia page on the website sports comedy show. Don knapp is always a lot of fun stuff up there and i'll be putting some more stuff up there for them as the week continues. Okay now as. I said as i was watching the games i saw a kirk theme. I wanna talk about here in how it plays out in god. The significance of the players in that is these games were one in lost in the trenches. And when i say the trenches were talking about the front line and the first game buffalo in tennessee. That really wasn't that game was balanced. So they kind of went back and forth some of these other games. Those trenches were not balanced. It was clearly one dominating side over the other in clearly show in rome. Talk about is the rams thirty seattle twenty. The rounds are known for their good defense. they went into seattle. Shut them down now. Wouldn't you think of the rams defense too. Big names always comes up. It's always arrow donald in jalen ramsey jalen ramsey the quarterback. He doesn't let the long ball. Game by arnold donald in the middle he keeps short short. Where the true heroes were in. This game was on their front line. The ran's had four on that front line in it. Look like they were rushing five and six the whole time and they just stifled and i didn't stifled russell wilson. They sacked him five times. They made him throwing the section inception. That was a pick six. This was not the russell wilson. We know love seeing all year. And it's because that for mine they had they. Just those four men were doing with we would normally see on a blitz of six men all gained mom and it made it a very long afternoon for russell wilson. It was an incredible display by the rams defensively and that opened the door up for them. Offensively jared goff finally had to give him to take control. The quarterback wolford went down. Jared goff plans. They got a good enough offense two points on the board. That's what they did. But the story is was in the trenches. They missed the hell or didn't even have to blitz they. Therefore man rush took down russell wilson. Now if you remember early in the year seattle. They won the first four or five games in early in the year. Everybody was looking at russell. Wilson's the possible. Mvp that kinda petered out as the year went on and on and arises finally stopped taking taking root in that in that conversation but the point i'm gearing to hear as russell wilson still had a good year. He still had a little low point in the middle but he was known for his ability to make the big plays to get out of the pocket to run around the scramble to find the open receivers. None of that happen on saturday. And i mean none of had happened and i'm quite sure i thought they would have a better answer or plan from pete carroll. I'm a big p. Carol fan and that see the rams one that i wish i was still like to see The plants that is simple short. The rad's outplayed them in all came from the trenches at i'll give him that frontline defensively. Speaking the shutdown seattle seattle had no answer. It was a long afternoon for them. They only had ten points in the first half three points in the third quarter by the time they scored a garbage touchdown. The game was already over. Trenches is welcome through in means a lot on the playoffs. Because that's how you control the game during the regular season we look at all the offense. We look at all the receivers in quarterbacks and even the the running backs that king henry. We'll talk about him nice but you don't look at those frontlines and that's where the game is truly one of us in this was classic example on that ram seattle now to go further with the point of the trenches. Let's talk about tennessee baltasar. Did anybody watch that game yesterday. Turns out on. Derrick henry ended up with the wapping forty yards of rushing and the reason was because baltimore frontline on the defense. They did not allow holes. They were not. I'm dick can give it to them. We try to inside. You would try to go outside. There was no holes in because of that frontline shut him down. Derrick henry was running writing to axum wall of baltimore ravens. He was not able to going in the first half. They put up ten early points. So it wasn't that big of a deal in the first half both baltimore so fixated on him. They were going to shut down. The tannehill was able to come up with some throwing but as the game went on it was clear. The derrick henry was not able to get going. They had to go to their throwing game. Tannehill was not able to make the big plays now on the other side of the ball. Lamar jackson he just went crazy. Lamar jackson rushed for one hundred. Thirty six yards. Your quarterback run runs for one hundred thirty six. He was the leading rusher in the game. Plus they had dobbins with forty three yards and gus edwards on. He had thirty eight yards but the point being they had some back there ball talk. All of a sudden has become this premier rain team. The you know. The mark. Jackson started off with the start off terrible. But he's come on strong stronger than i realize. If you recall my five star pick was tennessee. I really thought derrick. Henry was gonna do what he needed to do it all. I thought that too. They were a stronger team especially being at home and beating baltimore once or twice in baltimore. Adding the the playoff gps jitters. I was wrong and the reason i was wrong. Because it was that frontline in the trenches where it was done on. The when tennessee was on offense baltimore. Frontline did not did not give way. They put the pressure on like derek. We go and then on the other side when moore was on offense. There was holes created four dolphins in the speed of those guys and also lamar jackson needs just the fastest quarterback once he got into. That open. filled your trouble. Because if you didn't get him at the line of scrimmage we're all the big boca players are now you're dealing with the linebackers and possibly cornerbacks and he's just as fast as them not faster. And lamar jackson was truly the the key here. He was able to get past that frontline because baltimore heading quality offensive line. There was able to push tennessee aside so a truly incredible performance by the mark jackson. Sadly the five-star pet is now ten and seven on the year. Only one in the playoffs. Everywhere i look at it. I was shocked but it was a big win for baltimore in baltimore has now become a team to be reckoned with in the playoffs. So very exciting for them. They're okay let's take a look at the game now. Here's an interesting was tampa bay washington before the game. Everybody knew or the big story was again. The frontline washington was supposed to have the big defensive front line. That was gonna keep. Tom brady check and for the most part they did they talk. It was clear if tom brady knew what was going on. He knew he did not have a lot of time and because he's been in this situation many times in the past he was able to make his quick time in place. If not throw it away. Tom brady. That's that's the thing that we love about. The brady bunch is the fact. He has disciplined even after twenty years. He took his three sacks he never gave up your section and a lot of times. He you know interception. I keep say session in the session. There was no intercession. There was no intersection for tom. Brady gave up three sacks. But that's okay but he threw the ball away a lot in because he realized he did not have a long time. Because i did have a good defensive frontline that was able to penetrate so these materialize early in this game for Tom brady he had to go to the running game in the run game was good balance for him. Leonard fournette had nineteen carries ninety three yards which was big for him. They did a trick. Play with antonio brown. He gets twenty two yards so they kinda mix it up but it is the receiving corps ultimately his tampa bay has a ton of receivers. But it was the fact that washington's frontline was able to penetrate and that made tampa goto the running game and it was a good well belts attacked by tampa bay. They were the better team. They came through victorious on. I guess the other story here worth mentioning is washington. Did had to go with taylor. Hannity for the quarterback out smith was not able to go. The kid did extremely well. It is not as big three hundred six yards. Got t. t. got tv You know hopefully we will see a lot more from him in the future. It was just kind of a bar. That alison get to go. But he he made a game out of it so washington's hanging their hat and their sees tyler panicky advocating go get in south. Huntington somebody give heineken. Give panicky on comedy. Show come on a little humor. There are going to be the afc there that division is don has kind of you at some poignant happen. It was still a good game by washington. It was in their stadium. They hung on they score late. They tried to make a game of it. It was just too much tampa bay. Wins this one. Thirty one twenty three now as i mentioned. Somebody also don't lie mondays. Somebody else doesn't like. Monday is big ended. The road for big omar. Yes ben wanna shoot the whole down the rest of his career of the seasons life. What is big. Ben gonna do. Well we don't know what big ben. And as i mentioned earlier he's out on the show this morning. He doesn't even know what he's gonna do. Fact and watching. Espn right now. In the headlines rothlisberger noncommittal on future with steelers after wild card loss. So there's no no what we do know is out gay was just ugly. Did you watch that last night. Start with the first place grid. The center throws the ball. Right over big ben right into the end zone. Riding cleveland's hand in cleveland was often runny. This game was a shocker. For a couple reasons if you recall. Cleveland was on cova protocol week. Four repairs down getting routes the coach diggity coach. They didn't open up their their training facility or practice squad till friday. The game was sunday. So these guys literally all sat around and didn't know what to do how to do it or who to do with the boy came together and i think we need to look here on this one. Kid is the front line. Now cleveland as a running team. Even though we've got jarvis landry mayfield left to throw to their a right t because they've got to quality running backs. The for the first time were injured throughout the season it was usually one or the other. But this time kareem hunt and the nick shops were together back there in those two boys were sink and they caused a lot of trouble for pittsburgh and there were holding that front line. Cleveland's offensive front line is a big brutal frontline and again. that's what i believe. This game was one. Besides pittsburgh's mistakes was the fact. The cleveland was able to push aside. Pittsburgh's defensive frontline create big holes. And if you're gonna create big holes for speed like chup in you're in trouble. And between them they rushed for one hundred thirty yards. Chuck down ranford for longer. But he had the bigger. The bigger plays from scrimmage but kareem hunt was the one who fell into it was just a truly balanced attack on the running game. They win for cleveland. They get the monkey off their back. They now not only make the playoffs. They win the game. They go the division around you know and again the arguing dramas landry. You have five reception ninety two yards and also you know the tub for for reception. So they're not just using him as a running back. They're thrown into him. Reshad higgins couple. And so austin hooper awesome. New vaccine had seven targets. So he was actually the main guy for baker mayfield to go to. And when you do that then you've got your other weapons coming in. It's a balanced offense big win for cleveland. They ran up the score. It was clear. Pittsburgh's defense did not have the answer and it was all done right there at the front line. The front line is the story on cleveland's defense. They put the pressure on big big. Ben had four interceptions. The first three in the first half in each in each case. Cleveland came back and scored a touchdown so points on turnover. Twenty one points the. You can't win a game when you have twenty one points on turnovers and that's what happened. Cleveland just ran out the clock on this one. Is pittsburgh keep trying to come back. Forty eight thirty seven big. Win for cleveland again. Monday morning being been tells say. Tell me why. I don't like mondays. Conceiving crews big been it was simply. They ran up against the better team. The reason why i'm not crucified. Big ben yes. He had a poor performance. He had a great year. If you remember they were eleven and out in the point. I'm gonna make the monday morning quarterback the season sixteen games on and then the second season would start starts now so you go back to eleven to know all this year's steelers it that was a record for the organization. They never went eleven. And now terry bradshaw never went eleven now all the great glory days never went eleven but it was clear as they were going eleven that there were cracks in the steel curtain. Those cracks came to light turns out they weren't playing the best teams. Their division wasn't all that great baltimore has hit their stride yet as they done so the rawson next three in a row the lip to the to the finish line with the good record with a twelve four record they won the division but it was clear they had issues heavy issues dropping the ball so the point is i'm not gonna hang this all on big band. I like big fan. Use it quality quarterback he had a hell of a career. I would like to come back and do it one more time. But i'm certainly not him or pittsburgh. So i don't know where they're at with this. I would like to see them. Take a little time to reflect because it's always. It's always typical after you lose a playoff game. You're out there. Now is a question of reacting. You're reacting to a loss in everything goes negative. I don't want to see that happen to big bam. I wanna see these guys take their time to review all their options. I want to come back. If he doesn't big-band you get a you still get a big nod for a great year. A great career. Yes it was the power of the game. But i'm not gonna throw on the cross crucify. I wanna see you come back and do it again. Okay guys now. As i mentioned we do have a the college football game tonight. So i'm sure. There's going to be glued to the tv sets for that. This is the biggie here. F first of all college football actually made it through the season. That's probably the biggest story here if you wanna look at the bigger picture and Congratulations to coach football. It was a wacky year. It was a dismal year was zeh befuddling year and was all because of covid so Bid they did their best to deal with it. You know how many games got postponed. Or how many games got moved around the team team b because team secret. Make it but they did. It is the point of getting that here in. They kept going the kept going in. They got the season done. So congratulations to coach. Just keep rolling. Because they didn't we have an actual. Karen season was thirty. The show must role on as the show is rolling on this show off. Let's take us. We've got a hall state alabama without just not out. Al obama it is neutral. Site is the finals. I off all right. We got a little raw. Hi these guys are going to be in the top of their game here tonight. A big big favorite here. I will on alabama's like seven or eight point favor donna. Why they're so big and their alabama. That's why they're so big. I think this. I guess what i'm trying to say. I think this would be a closer game with respect here for for such lopsided spread ohio state. They only got six games in on the year. They're six and eight. Had he had to deal with the issue alabama. Oddly enough didn't get they. Somehow they were able to get through the cove scenario. They played other. They have lebanon season. They racked everybody up. You know they would win their they win at most of their games by thirty or forty points. And that's problem why they're sets the big favor here is dating. Get hit by gobi. Maybe young stuck to the protocols. Maybe it was on. Maybe it was social distancing for whatever reason. It didn't them so but now we've got the finals and the question is is phil's is filled for how steak and to be able to go in and take down alabama great quarterback tattoo goodyear or how state is a good defensive team is well so i i. I don't know what this game has entailed for us. Hi total seventy five and a half points. That's calling in college football. Is you know if this is. We gave you could see up. Forty two to ten gamer and even higher than that by maybe a fifty five to thirty game. This is a championship game. And as i look at this game. I can understand why. Everybody's taking the points just because it's a championship game And i would lead ohio state but I think the player is going to be the under for those that are looking at that Seventy five and a half points just on a point evenly called especially because it's a it's a it's z. Championship game so. If i were doing anything there i liked the under far as the actual game goes. Let's look in hope. Her exciting one. I think ohio state finds a way. To keep this game close ultimately alabama. Is the bigger juggernaut here. I think young going to do what he needs to do. The receiving smith is gonna find what he needs to do solos waddell. These guys are gonna find the smith's got seventeen. Td's on the year. He finds a strong. I look for alabama to to come up on top in our championship game. Okay guys give that for your first. Monday morning edition again as i summarize. I think the games were won in the trenches. And we're gonna talk more about that. Friday is a preview. Next week's games a divisional round congratulations to the buffalo bills. They're rolling rolling rolling. Sadly it's monday morning for big band. He doesn't know what to do. Russell wilson he's probably still shell shocked from all those ranches get known king henry wall. What would happen hole. There wasn't a whole from kenya. Nri they got rocked. That okay guys. I want to thank you for listening. Sports common cheryl. I'm paul cereno catching friday this ready.

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Multi-Level Marketing | The Cults Of The Business World

Let's Start A Cult

58:38 min | 3 weeks ago

Multi-Level Marketing | The Cults Of The Business World

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I'm make it myself. I pretty much there. But i don't want to say anything. That's you blasts in this on a call podcast. So no no. There's there's been no one else. Joe rogan doesn't exist. So and my second guessed i have an inside joke with because he has been on so many times that he's the unofficial second host of this podcast. He is my actual co host on other podcasts. Read it on wiki. Please welcome my guest with the most appearances. Giancana gotta john. How's it going buddy. And how does it feel to be part of a podcast that has made to a full year. You'll be podcast. Been in the show for so many times. What is my fifth appearance. Officially might have been more. You know probably. Hey it's not about quantity obviously is about quality. That's why brian was very first effort. Bessinger show i'm just you know. Hey are you free. i'm like yes you up text. no. I appreciate you guys coming on. It's awesome to get both you guys on for this one because in today's episode of the let's start called podcast. We will be discussing multilevel marketing companies or pyramid schemes from leggings to essential oils. Kitchen knives these predatory brands manipulated countless individuals causing them to destroy personal relationships and lose their life savings with tasked with tactics reminiscent of actual religious cults. The way amil. Mlm's operate is definitely disturbing and this is different than a ponzi scheme rate right. Yeah are they the same. I believe i just watched the other guys again. And at the end of that movie i think it showed all these graphics showing what a ponzi scheme is how all his money these guys make in. It's a it's a it's a crime. Yeah definitely it's also quite ironic that this is what the topic is. Because i was just watching the office brian. We were just talking about earlier and it was the scene when michael scholars trying to explain is trying to get a team together jim. Jim drew the triangle. And he's like. Oh well i have some calls to make yes. That's the direction with it. I thought you said speaking of it's funny. This is the episode. I was like oh man. This is where is this going for you. I am trying to sell my course if the more people you bring on the more you can make from my course. That's that's how it works a so that's right we are talking about pyramid-schemes as most of you can probably relate to that high school acquaintance that you haven't talked to in years. Who randomly added you up on facebook and instagram. He messes you asking. If you're interested in making one hundred thousand a year. All from the comfort of your home selling essential oils right essential oils. Exactly yeah want the essential oils stuff now from friends from high school. And i'm like man what these guys get themselves into. It's like you're definitely not making that much. I i know. Trust me so have have either of you being a part of or have any stories related to mlm's before we get into it. Actually when i was dumb high schooler. I did try to get into one of those. I think it was the knife. one vector. Yeah we talk about that later actually. That's a good one. Exact vector was was one of the first ones. I kind of fell. I mean as a high schooler. You don't know anything and you're like oh this sounds cool. I want money. Like i needed money in high school. Like all i had to do was go to go to school. Go to a practice. Go to the games and then go home and do my homework. Yeah you didn't pay rent or anything so exactly. Yeah you try to get in on one of these like you didn't think. Hey let me just go get a job like you let me find. Let me go house to house selling knives. It sounds fun. John was like. I want to rip people off. I have the charisma to go and sell l. But for some reason. I kinda just woke up and just to be like. Oh my gosh. I just got duped to to be fair. It's not it's not as easy as it sounds because a lot of people are deeply entrenched in this. Oh absolutely yeah we will get into how deeply entrenched. Some people are a lot of people. Lose a lot of money on this. So it's it's a definitely a dark business practice. We'll call it that to be generous so to start things off. We're gonna hop into a brief history of multilevel marketing companies. The exact origins of multi level marketing companies or network marketing is sometimes called are fairly unknown however. Most experts believe that their concept traces. Its roots to a california. Vitamin company called neutral late corporation. And if that's not the most california company named assure sting. I think that's the direction they went with it on. It's always sunny in philadelphia. Win is selling those bary's to relieve your stress. And you hold onto that thing. And charlie's like why do i put my feet and you on your stress stress. You're not gonna use off your life and they sell all these in or something like that. I think they did the same in Brooklyn nine nine with things called neutral boom. Which is kind of probably i clean off on now. Definitely is a yeah because it was the first of its kind in nineteen thirty four. It introduced a direct sales business model that relied on loyal customers. Selling their favorite products to family and friends landing. Assail could earn them. A commission of up to fifty dollars a month or the equivalent of approximately a thousand dollars in today's money or a million canadian dollars which is probably not true but the cook conversion rate is five dollars can finally live up here naturally. Many jumped at the opportunity to bring home a hefty income and began buying the vitamin products at wholesale prices among the most successful ones were jay van. Andel and richard devos both of whom join neutral late in nineteen forty nine. After a decade of working with the company they decided to form their own business which they called amway which is short for the american way of ripping people off. Couldn't believe it. they are terrible. They prey on a lot of immigrants to to america and and try and get them to sell and buy into the product. So they're great wondering where this was going with. Call set i than like really just prey on people. The people that don't know better that are the most vulnerable. This is perfect. They're promptly american dream and they get a taste of it right away. Here's here's amway to screw you over capitalize style. So am we made use of the same direct sales model that neutrally pioneered however instead of vitamins. They sold household products like organic cleaners. These proved to be incredibly popular especially among housewives a demographic that the company targeted customers and sellers so it is kinda revolutionary where they're selling to people who are going to sell to themselves but obviously there there's there's an end because it's kinda of cannibalistic. In that style 'cause they're consuming their own market base in that way. And by the early nineteen seventies amway had become so profitable that andel and devos were able to acquire a sizeable chunk of neutral eight which enabled them to add. Vitamins and food supplements to their portfolio however their astronomical growth caught the eye of the federal trade commission which is an american government agency responsible for protecting consumers. Guys my none of them is the ftc. That sounds familiar. Yeah yeah they're there to protect you for the most part right. Did you say the last name is the devos one of them devotes. Yeah d. e. v. o. s. but it's one of those weird ones where the capital is capitalize. Yeah i wonder if it's the same same family that i think. She became the education secretary. or something. like voss's well is that her worst proceed part of that family interest. Let me check. You are correct. Actually not washes mary. She's she's married into the devos family. She's married to him. He's the she's married to the co founder of amway on well done that. They are the eighty eighth richest family in america. Worth an estimated five point four billion dollars. So that's that's where your education dollars go sorry Imagine what that curriculum would have turned into. She's would've teachers to sell the students and they can sell to them if you take this. Ap exam and then you get another person to take the ap exam. It keeps on going good catch. John good catch. I did not catch that when i was doing the research here. So that's crazy really interesting. Yeah anyway we'll continue on in nineteen seventy five. The ftc brought the company to court over allegations that it was a pyramid scheme. A business model that relies on the recruitment of new members to earn money rather than on sales of an actual product or service. Emily's fierce pushback on the lawsuit that they were involved in ended up paving the way for other multilevel marketing companies to enter the market including avalon. Pepper wear and electrolux. Just a side note. Every time i see tupperware. I think of that tick talk. Where he's like tupperware and he's like no no no let's say that slowly and he goes tub and he's like no no. It's tough tupperware doubt. The one would south from impractical jokers. Maybe it might be might be that one. Yeah yeah it's a big a big ticked up for a while anyway. The multilevel marketing industry has grown significantly since then particularly in north america in fact according to the management study guide website quote. The direct selling association of united states of america reported that about twenty five percent of its members. We're engaging in mlm channels of selling in the nineteen nineties whereas by the year two thousand nine it was found that over ninety four percent of the members have been practicing this method which contributed to about ninety seven percent of the total direct sales and quote. So it was a jump of a math is bad. But that's seventy seven almost seventy percent so Which is me yeah in span like twenty to thirty years it jumped about mine which is crazy so just goes to show how big of a spread it has as of twenty twenty approximately six point. Two million americans are said to be actively involved in. Mlm's with most of them working for either personal care or health and wellness brand unfortunately only twenty five percent of them have turned a profit with at least half dropping out after one year and after making a huge financial investment in the business. That is a very large percent. If i was better math i would've done this all out. But it's like over a million just away way over a million like just drop blues. Hundreds to thousands of dollars after investing huge. Yeah yeah hey one. Could one could argue. That podcasting is a pyramid scheme. I tried to read a joke in here about that. And i couldn't find a spot. Not you save. This zoom screen is kind of because you think about it every time you have your little call to action like a better be my subscriber and if you do tell if you become a subscriber tell your other friends. That is very true. I guess the argument would be you. Don't have to. It's free unless you're a patron john. Hey i think. I think more people would listen to us. If you know i feel like at this is coming from experience that one time. I did the knife thing every time like they had the little. What do you call that kind of the orientation. It's always super young. Guy sung yung charismatic. Dude flexing rallied is what is what is lamborghinis. Like hey i did this age seventeen. I just graduated high school next thing. You know lamborghini the next day. And i feel like we need to make that lamborghini investment so that way. We can flex people josh that smart. Okay what's our lamborghini. Investment going to be john. I don't know we buy those joe rogan. Microphone so we're doing okay so we're doing. dd guessing. john gets to drive it. Yes absolutely came up with it you. You were the most experienced josh. The cult leader. So i'm just in his inner circle at the moment that's true you all your all in my inner circle just different. Levels of rings yeah The growth of the mlm industry may be massive. however it's incredibly low. Success rate is the reason why people are often warned against joining one critiques of such companies. Point out that it's business. Model is doomed to fail. Given that product distributors are paid a percentage of the sales made by their recruits or down lines as they're sometimes called since their income is mainly hinge on the number of individuals that they brought into the brand those who are unable to recruit people. Don't earn anything at all. For example old fe. Easter spent at least six hundred pounds or around eight hundred dollars during the few months that she was with erbakan an mlm that focuses on beauty and health related products. By the time she quit she'd only managed to make back twelve pounds whore measly sixteen dollars and the story does remind me of podcasting but right now i put in so much money into i got. Let's see almost nothing. The equivalent of sixteen canadian dollars five cents thing. We enjoy doing this or the love love of it. But my gosh i will sell out so fast spotify. Come we're we're doing exclusive for twenty dollars. It'd be like you got me that much money. Podcasting exactly you guys getting paid. Meanwhile twenty two year old charlotte dickerson. Who became an air. Bond sales representative lost a staggering. Eight hundred pounds or more than a thousand dollars in just four months. The website investor. Pedia put it best. When it said quote members at all levels receive some form of commission as long as the chain keeps going the more layers there are the more money people can make think of it as a pyramid. The person or people on top earned the most while those who sit towards the bottom earn fewer commission dollars relatively few though generally earn meaningful income from their efforts and quote. Very few will make money. It'll be like the top twenty five percent like i said earlier. That's a cool that they put on their website while recruiting people know. This is no no no no. This is invested pedia which is like a financial website. basically that that gives okay financial. So they're like no. Don't do this. this is a bad idea. You you also said that people are discouraged from this business model because a lot of them aren't successful. Don't make money. isn't it also because the legal it's a it's a gray area back then. Is it hard to prove gas. Or the ftc tried to charge amway but clearly. That didn't work there still operating because they pushed back so hard because they had the money to push back and they pave the way for more companies to do this. It's a gray area. It's not illegal. It's just kind frowned upon by the government by definitely definitely people still do it and make a ton of money like billions of dollars clearly as we can see from the education secretary or whatever you guys so gray area i would say the best gripe but not illegal so that is a bit of the history of mlm's we're now going to get into the aggressive tactics that they use to indoctrinate people into their companies and it goes to call. This is the cult part. Mlm's aren't only criticized for their low success rates though for many the lies that the industry perpetuates and it's believe encouragement of aggressive and shady. Recruitment tactics are the reasons why people should stay away from brands. That use this direct sales model. For example. The mlm company vector marketing is best known for exploiting college students and recent graduates by sending them letters promising exciting job opportunities with excellent pay and flexible work schedules. However instead of legitimate nine to five those who take up the offer made to go door to door selling kitchen knives and convincing their friends to do the same and yet much like john i have a. I have a similar story to this when i was in college. I was broke at looking for a job. When i saw a sales position on indeed so i applied and they told me to come in for an interview which was exciting so i went in got dressed. Sutanto and everything Went to the building and they're probably fifteen other people in the room with me mostly around my age and we sat through like the forty minute presentation about how great knives were and shown how we could go door to door make making money and i was very pissed off. 'cause i thought i was going to get an actual job. And that's that's my villain origin story. I have to say the way you described that too. I mean the tactics are like hey come in for this job opportunity. You can make a lot of money. This sounds like the email scam you get that you just instantly delete like wire our people. I don't know letting this perpetuate this it sounds like a scam. You know well. And that's when they prey on people who are just at a college or in college because they're like lower income people looking for a job and with the job market. It's not great so they target those people and promised them the world. Some people bid in in the in the presentation. I was in some people stayed. I left right away as soon as i could. I took a donut. Because i thought that was fair and then and then i left you. Get to travel from house to house. The ones who stayed were not that sharp knife joke. I like that. thank you john. I will say my parents bought one of these cases. These knives off of. I think one of my brothers high school friends who was selling and man. They are fantastic. They are good to this day. They look like butter knives but they would've sliced through estate and it is a male. Brian speaking of knives those little products. Now go live. They are pretty good to work. I call it. it was like herbalife or something. Like yeah herbalife is one. Yeah yeah so. I tried it for a little bit and yes it did kind of help. I'm like i would never sell these. Any feels kinda a nutritional pills kinda vitamins and stuff like vitamins. Okay yeah yeah yeah. They can be helpful if you if your vitamin deficient but definitely not all of them and the essential oils are kind of bullshit and we're going to be honest. It's a colt. And then you just you know like when you go like i shop like a trader joe's or whole foods and family. And you see that now. I know she's louise like you. See those big yukon trucks with with the herbalife sticker. And i'm like okay. I'll just go to walmart today. I don't need this hour. Difference between essential oils and candles candles. Yeah there are are definitely candle pyramid-schemes. But i wouldn't say oh just like you do with essential oils. Is it just for so basically it just makes your house smell better so ver for some people. I guess i could calm them down like candles. Calm people down and it's relaxing. I guess so in that sense but they will not cure you of cancer. Which is what sometimes profit promised so interesting. You're buying these essential oils. Can i interest you in it. Himalayan salt lamp now. Exactly exactly you want to cook like a stake in that lab salted steak. There this sketchy. Recruitment method has landed vector marketing in hot water several times in two thousand eleven. The company was made to pay thirteen million dollars to settle a lawsuit that accused him of failing to pay their salespeople that appropriate minimum wage. A few years later they were again embroiled in another class action lawsuit. This time it alleged. The company was inadequately. Compensating their salesperson's. So that's where they get into the gray water brian because they're technically not paying employees. So they can. They open themselves up to lawsuits like that and vector marketing was actually forced to pay six point. Seven five million dollars to settle this. But that's like nothing in the grand scheme makes. Oh they don't really care. I mean no one's no one is hourly though like why can't like that. Sounds like if somebody won that argument and they're still not paint people. Isn't that just in case you can like immediately bring up again. Yeah i'm not a business radio. The law is fuzzy. Sometimes i guess there's probably ways around it. They probably put something in the contract. That says you're not guaranteed to make money. Maybe they didn't do that at the beginning. who knows. there's a lotta gray area with all. This should probably be illegal. They should probably just be like okay. We'll pay you for what you do if you don't sell anything that's fine like that should be what it is but it's not at least like a base pay. It's sucking too. But like i mean. I think there should all i mean. It's not like the same concept but servers. The food industry like they get paid late super low and based on the service and based on a service they get or they provide. That's then they'll they'll get additional compensation from tips. I mean i'm like i s again. That's not a really good correlation but at least offer those workers who are doing the marketing to to the people like lisa base pay. I'll take it a step. Further pay servers base pay minimum wage. So that i don't like so. If i have a bad server i don't feel obligated to tip because i've had i have good servers. I'll tip the more you know what. Yes but that's how it should work. It should be you get paid the same. And then if you do more bring in more business than you make a little more. That's the compensation but you should make a minimum wage that is livable. Yeah and that's absolutely fair that thing that goes forever else. I give you go step above what you were supposed to then you should get compensated for it like especially teachers right right right. I'm so passionate about making sure. Our teachers get paid man like this. It's crazy. why are they putting all this crap. Thanks guys i appreciate it i i. It's it's doing its job. I enjoy it but i'm gonna keep at it. I was a pain in the but as a student. So i mean i don't if you had to deal with me like i wouldn't blame for strangled me as a child back and you should email some of these teachers. Hey sorry i was such a pain appreciate it. You know you just into a better person. I wouldn't say i'm a better person. They still use as a primary source for podcast. So i'm pretty sure. They're going to slap me again if i if i tell them i didn't think we'd get into a whole pay debate but this is good. This is good healthy. Yeah it's healthy dialect. Is that the right word title. No we're moving by a log dialect. We're going with it. Sure is your show goal. In addition to promising nonexistent job opportunities to those who participate in mlm's also frequented host parties as a way to recruit down lines among those who were roped in after attending one of these. Was angela a stay at home. Mom of three from reno nevada. She found herself joining tupperware after her neighbors sister claimed to be selling them to to raise funds for her treatment before long. Angela was attending the company's weekly rallies where she was bombarded by aggressive sales recruitments and her up blinds. Who kept telling her she was failing to recruit enough people so just going to these parties and getting bombarded with hate. Because you're not doing. Your job is the worst thing. I could think of doing something off time oxygen party. No no no the worst party. These comments became even more hostile. After angela's mother was diagnosed with cancer in an interview with the huffington post. She shared quote. They said you need to use your mom's cancer as is your sales pitch you need to turn it into a party and ask everyone that cares about you and your mom to help you sell tupperware and quote all oval and it gets worse. Other sellers even began using angela's mother to sell more tupperware telling customers that they were helping raise funds for cancer treatment. Even if they weren't yeah. Oh yeah so. Could you imagine hearing your friends. Mom having cancer and then thinking coaching. I can cash in on this man knowing hands so fast. Definitely tupperware cited ahead. What are you doing too bad tupperware. Plastic hard enough that could be. That's true that's true thankfully. Angela ended up leaving tupperware shortly afterwards. Fortunately she wasn't saddled with debt and inventory unlike most other mlm participants who are often forced to unload mountains of remaining products at garage sales and on facebook marketplace. Unfortunately her time with mlm's continued to haunt her long after she got rid of her last tupperware after developing a deep vein thrombosis which is just blood. Clots basically a. She was inundated with messages on social media from people recommending that she take everything from plexus health drinks to essential oils to replace the blood thinners that she needed to mitigate or blood clots which is how horse paste became so popular. This constant barrage of messages is another aggressive sales and recruitment tactics. That mlm's us for quote huns which participants are sometimes cheekily referred to as so hans h. You ns like you'd call your girlfriend or wife or so. They reaching out to people on social media as an effective method that guarantees them potential down lines and intern and increased commission. Not all huns like sending messages though especially since up lines often encouraged them to reach out to casual acquaintances and even strangers however when they have to choose between making back the money they invested into their business and maintaining social graces than the former usually takes top priority. Because you don't want to. Most people don't want to ruin their relationships with their friends so they just take the the hit from their investment which is where a lot of people lose their money right so a lot of these people are relying on this as their main source of income like. They're putting all their chips in here. Not all of them but like it depends on the so so like i said the knife. One college students usually get brought in so they're looking for full-time jobs. Something to make money so yeah. They're putting their all into it housewives. Who maybe they're on maternity leave. Or i don't know if you have that in america but Early yeah so maternity leave or just stay home wife's or husbands that really have have to fill up their day with something and they choose to try and start a business and this is what they call their starting their business so it's not everything but it is their time and usually their families money joint money that they're they're putting into this so it's tough. Yeah that's a tough spot to be a. You have the allure of the empty promises that they give you. It's like You want to be your own boss. You don't want to be like an entrepreneur. You know to a younger person or someone that never had that growing up. That's a huge huge draw for them so it's hard to blame the people it's it's these companies have shady business practices that keeps getting away with it or the real culprits. This oh yeah. I think john read my script hit every point. I'm going to hit on. he's just he's just nailing it. He's he knows more about mlm's than from pain okay. John knows from experience of as a result though their personal relationships begin to suffer not only do huns become a source of embarrassment for their friends and family members but they may even receive. Insults verbal abuses from individuals. Who are irritated by their business. But do people only join. Mlm's because of parties messages on social media and the opportunity to take massive earnings not really for a majority of them they were led into the business with false expectations by an line who promise in the world as john said this is exactly what john just said so if you want to skip ahead just seconds. For instance. Huns often used the tagline. Be your own boss to convince others to join their. Mlm this phrase may sound incredibly simple. But you'd be surprised at just how many people are sick of their nine to five corporate jobs and are looking to find a way out. Many recruits were also lured in by glamorous photos of huns enjoying luxury vacations on tropical islands or abroad on cruise ships. The captions accompanying such images often claim that the trips were paid for by the company however they don't mention the astronomical amounts of money they had to spend on buying products just to qualify for it. So this is a classic thing where they'll give you like sales goals if you buy enough product from them they'll take they'll give you whatever gift cards or or getaway or something like that but only if you spend way more than the trip would actually cost. You know what i mean. The cruise ships. Aren't that expensive so appreciated someone similar elementary school when you would either raise money selling chocolate bars or something. If he raised one hundred dollars you get like a basketball and if you raised two dollars a ticket to some sporting and like i. That sounds familiar. Yes that that's actually that's very true. I'd never thought of that. That is the education secretary at work there. Those idiots pizza like it's tomorrow. Yeah yeah definitely that falls into it for sure. Promises of a wealthy and opulent lifestyle are among the many coercive. Recruitment methods that huns use. It has proven to be incredibly enticing. However the reality is that most recruits find themselves in dire financial straits only a few months later. However do either of you know who won't put you in dire financial straits or course you into false business practices. god here. Comes this pyramid scheme ads. Josh shell that's not always true. Goes coffee now the products and services this podcast but it would be if you got an amway. Add on this episode so enjoy some ads. What is up fred. Today's episode is brought to you by hellofresh. Do you feel like you're stuck at dinner with hellofresh. Get fresh premeasured ingredients with mouth-watering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door skip all those trips to the grocery store and count on hellofresh to make home cooking easy fun and affordable you can now enjoy cooking and get dinner on the table in thirty minutes or less with over twenty five recipes to choose from each week. There's something for everyone to enjoy. 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That's what they were singing about back to aladdin too. I can show you the world like gosh stop open. Disney rapids is episode. I'll next. Brian sees a kid selling chocolate. Just shakes them. What you're doing students do that. It's a couple of times yearly. Come in with a box of chocolates. Is she wants chocolate. Was like yes please. They're like and then i ain't gonna win for. I know i know they're asking for money. But he act like you know i can just take like notre dame for it. I'm like what discount. This is. The day i should be like. I'll bump you up half a point if you give me fair. Trade man the fair trade chocolate now next thing you know it's knives next thing you know with beauty starts a chocolate ends at a horse paste all right so we've talked about. Mlm's how they started we've talked about their shady big business practices and now we're going to compare them to cults because this is a cult show and if we have an episode cult people will revolt so the aggressive and shady tactics that mlm companies use are the main reason why they're often regarded as modern day. Cults indeed religious groups like people's temple but he used similar methods promising people that joining their ranks would allow them to attain whatever their heart desires whether it be social justice and equality or healing from a physical disease their manipulation continued long after the individual had signed up. Though will vote ease of jim jones talked about the utopia amid communism and the threat that the soviet union posed. Mlm huns painted enticing. Picture of all expense paid vacations to exotic places and being able to decide when to clock in for work which is a big plus for sure. Both religious cults and mlm's alike emphasize the titanic community that they can provide which has proven to be appealing for those who feel lonely and unsupported in real life. Which is definitely something that happens with the social media nowadays. How ever these aren't the only reasons why. Mlm's are considered cults on the website the snapping point companies that use this direct sales model were weighed against the bite model b. I t. e. of authoritarian control which was developed by american scholar dr steven hassan to describe the various methods. That cult leaders used to recruit and maintain control over other people. So it's basically a breakdown of how people control people in cults and similar structures anyway and it stands for behavioral control information control thought control and environmental control and the mlm companies. Meet almost every single element under each criteria. Which is probably not surprising. There's gonna be a plot twist doctor. Hassan is the main hun. God no no. He's a good guy he's he's defining what call so. Hey the reason why he can define it is because he created that's true. That's why i am the expert cult leader because create them. That's he's a mole for one thing huns control the behavior of their down lines through methods like encouraging them to use their free time to recruit more people and sell more products those who are failing to hit their quotas are often humiliated in team meetings or told that they simply aren't working enough even if they've already exhausted their social network sales representatives or consultants as they like to call themselves are also rewarded for good behavior for example the cosmetic mlm unique which is spelled in the dumbest way. It's spelled y. Oh you and i q u. e. unique. I hate it. You need not not so. They host an annual incentive trip for high performing huns on the other hand. Mary kay another beauty and cosmetic. Mlm gives a baby pink mercedes-benz to those who rake in tons of sales. So there you go john. That's what we need to a fun fact. I actually live a mile and a half from mary. Kay's main headquarters dance. Parking lot is wind with those cars with baby. Pink actually yes. I've actually went inside once. I'm not because i'm part of. It is for work related and they have a museum inside. Actually it's pro interesting. What is this museum just like the history of. It's really tiny. But i'm just like a furniture longest time i thought mary kay was the twins. Wjm gate nasty ashley. Well i'm sure. They use that to their benefit like for branding purposes. Probably use their names. Yeah besides behavior. Mlm also controls the information that the huns receive for instance essential oil brands off until huns at their products are powerful enough to cure anything from the common cold to the cove. Nineteen virus say. Is that a joke. Did you make that up or no. That's not a joke. I write a lot of this. Sh yup just made me chuckle because this is a there are a lot of the reason. Why so many people are vaccine hesitant definitely like essentially they're this can cure your covert to the people that have gotten covert eight times now. The only essential oil. I need is the one i used to fry chicken. Let me just say that is it. Low-fat oil no. I'd be full fat buddy. You forgot you're in texas. You need that sell low fat legal. Leave that to the live. Tards in california. My right man. I'm from california originally. I'm kidding. I don't care alliance to either so true. Paid us your america shop for today. America shot. I took a shot of maternity. Leave as well so that. This misleading information is spread through social media channels and during annual conventions where ten also fed with the brands overall positive doctrine. One that emphasizes how critics of mlm's are simply haters or sheep who are jealous of their success. According to the snapping point quote many mlm's will explicitly create an us versus them mentality among their consultants. Usually this is through discrediting ex consultants as haters whose businesses failed through their own faults. Clearly that's victim blaming and this cult behavior end quote. Yes so it's very much a. It's a team thing. And this is problems with social media in general today. But i digress. Even when they bullied they believed team We're until you're not making sales quotes. Then you're the enemy. Nece controlling the thoughts of their sales. Representatives is also something that the majority of mlm companies engage in a fantastic example of this doctrine that the spouse for instance unique claims that their products are the most advanced in the market even though quality of their makeup is reportedly berry poor. Meanwhile beach body a fitness based. Mlm convinces their huns. That they're legitimate coaches who are qualified enough to give advice about work at routines and diets in the real world though this can only be done by licensed certified professionals which beach bodies huns are certainly not and i actually knew a girl in college joined a fitness limb and she was definitely not qualified to or co device. She wasn't an outage. I'm not saying this but she just didn't study for. That didn't go to school for that or anything like that. So it was just she just one day signed up for it and then started giving advice like she was an expert. Pick things up and put them down. Yeah it's very hard to say. Lift weight make big muscles grunt. Heavy john expert and going to the gym. Those who says that workout out. I just go to the gym and go to the cafeteria you never know. Just go to the tanning bed buddy. That's true. I need to go to the tang humanly to get a ten. I got melanin. Goddamn getting dark seven sucks. Mlm's also instilled in their consultants. The idea that they'll be ostracized from the friend groups that they formed if they leave the company in fact many ex hunts have shared that they were ignored by people. they once considered friends while they're former spread. Nasty rumors about them. This form of manipulation falls under the final criteria of the bite. Model emotional control after all huns are less likely to leave once. They've seen the kind of abuse that those who have quit are subjected to so. That's very cold lake where they checks all the boxes. Oh yeah in conclusion. Given the controversial nature of mlm's it isn't surprising at all to find out that they've been involved in many different scandals. For instance roy. Lura something like that. Saddam spelling to a clothing brand that is arguably one of the most well known. Mlm's of all times was accused of coercing hans to undergo gastric bypass surgery in tijuana to improve their appearance. Meanwhile in have full surgery just to be a clothing brand seller have you guys. It's spelled. I've heard of it. You've heard of it. It's public l. l. a. r. e. The leggings right. That's lululemon might be the same. I think it's the same. Lululemon is like the legit one. Yeah so there's just a play on that title. Yeah yeah that seems to be what they do. Just name it similar to a very popular brand own aside. Not wanna fun times. I'll leave it at that order. How cheap bypass surgeries are there four. Yeah four dollars alessio whole night drinking could assume that a surgery oh by god just a little tad more. So let's say that's good because that's all they make from the mlm. So canadian dollars will last. I could buy a meal and that is my shot to canada. You know what. I'm not even putin that lightly. Oh no no. that's the wrong country. Protein put lightly. I do i do. I just get an excuse. Meanwhile in two thousand nine hundred food supplement called company herbalife was forced to pay twenty million dollars to the securities and exchange commission after it was convicted of deliberately misleading investors. In twenty twenty. It also paid one hundred and twenty three million dollars to settle criminal and civil penalties that were related to bribery case originating in china these are just some of the many lawsuits that have followed. Mlm companies over the past few years unfortunately even with these scandals. They're false promises as well as their aggressive and manipulative recruiting tactics. They continued to draw thousands of people in all of whom would have unknowingly doom themselves to losing their savings and perhaps even their sanity and that is the end of my ted talk today. Crowd goes wild. Please come back next year. So what do you guys think via. Change your perspective on. Mlm's or your your facebook friends that are in them man. I'm just thankful none of my friends have reached out to me about buying essential oils yet. They might after this episode. Sorry thanks but no thanks Just say you. You're going to teach your salary. They'll leave you can't afford this podcast. A we'll say this reminds me of you. Guys talked about orientations south to timeshares work as well very similar and actually my parents bought a timeshare which sucks so. I think it's a florida. And i don't think we've ever used it. So yeah not a great thing. But i mean it just goes to show you. Anyone can be duped. Which when i was doing this research you know i. it did. Make me feel more empathy for the people that do get roped in. Because i mean they're usually on hard times you know not in a good so oh yeah they try. They try anything right so feel bad force exactly. Yeah likely and you know it's just having having some sort of like a little bit of experience on it. There's not that much people that can actually just say like a tried it. But i was like quick enough at least to to get away from it not a lot of people. Have that option and like you said josh. These companies just just prey on people that are vulnerable. And that's just super said john. Did you have to buy the knives you so i think so. Yeah if i'm not mistaken and do you remember how many knives you bought. It was like a certain set a certain set. This is like fourteen years ago sites drawn a blank. But then you had to like buy a certain amount and then you just from there. You just go door to door to sell it right did you did you. Yeah i was gonna say. I think i did for like a week and i was like. Oh no thank you. Did you sell any couple days so you did better than think. Yeah but after a week of just like walking constantly. i'm like no. I hated that stuff in a high school. Elementary school things like that selling the chocolate selling the pizza and the cookie dough like asking people i could. I could do not not me. I go around asking people to buy something. I was the exact same way. Like we would get those. And if my mom didn't bring it up during a family gathering. I didn't sell any it was it was either to myself or or my parents and then if if it was never mentioned again i would forget about it. All came from the parents taking their place of work. Who you know like a counter or something like you know how toby daryl due to cookies in the office with kevin. I must say that little bit of experience has now led me to my podcast and career of not having any shame for promoting our show and gripping gripping yes there's one grade takeaway about it it is now that we don't have any shame that's true a been at the bottom and we're still here we'll get up there some day. We'll get up. It's only been a year now someday only been true. You're right. You're right speaking of which thank you fred. Further incredible year of podcasting for everyone. Who's listening to the podcast and become a fred. I want to thank you all of my guests who have taken the time to come on. Thank you as well as we listen to. I last episode. Where i was alone. That definitely when the good podcast listen to for a year so so special thanks to them. And thanks to my awesome guests today brian. I'm told you never forget your first. So i'm glad you could make the time today. Can i say that. I think was the second but was either hone asana wanna about. It was about japan and they would. They would force you to rub your. You're right. we're cutting all that out. I'm deleting my first episode now. Because i am now realizing. Brian was on the first episode. Apparently did forget first. So that's a navy. The first that we recorded but just didn't release i or say that you're my first real podcast. I think that's what it was. And again i started releasing Month before you did so that was the amount of experience though. I think i remember. I wanted to start the podcast. And i didn't have anyone connections or anything like that so i was just like to my buddies at home i was like. Hey you guys hop on. Now that i'm remembering yes. You were my first podcast host guest that okay. I'll take it brian. Please tell read where they can find your podcast. Alright i am the host of tv trivia pod podcast out. tv trivia right now mostly covered the office. So it's again it's just questions directly from the show. for example what's the name of michael scott's screenplay when jim imitates whitewater threes uses and again it gets more difficult from outta my most recent episode where creed is the acting manager. He has the office. Come up with an acronym for what body but binding my man but yeah. That's that's my podcast. You find anywhere you get podcasts. And following all the socials at tv trivia pod and all those will be in the shout so definitely go check. Check o'brien show. It's funny if you want you can go back to like december november. Maybe of last year and listened to the one. I was on way back my first podcast guests as well. Hey nice we were almost each other's i that's what we can say off. The first one was drunk and night. Yeah i forgot about it. It was a one night stand was with with all my friends friends and family to rope in. Hey i need you to do this for me. Chairman scheme that's what it is that's what it is and john is. This podcast ever makes money. I'll consider paying you as my co host. But until then please plug the podcast. We are actually co host on. Yes but i just want to say. Congratulations my guy for for a wonderful first year. And it's been. It's been great being in these. This is my fifth episode with you. I think this been an honor that you know you constantly think of me to a even though i'm a last minute guests at times man. Huge congratulations to you. Wishing you more episodes and more years to celebrate but as far as our other podcasts concern. 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Jim Jones And The People's Temple

Let's Start A Cult

45:21 min | 1 year ago

Jim Jones And The People's Temple

"Hello, my name is Josh L. And I'm very excited to bring you the first ever episode of The Office start a cult podcast the podcast for each week myself and some guests will dive into the wonderful and terrible world of Cults and other extremist groups. And if the FBI are listening in we are definitely not looking to wage their followers. But if you're interested, I will send you a pamphlet but that out of the way, let me introduce you. My first guest Sam would hello great great introduction off. No. No Sam. If you were hypothetically a part of my cult. I feel you'd be the guy to to mix the Kool-Aid but during during the making of the Kool-Aid you would probably forget to add the point at way too much water. So we just be sitting there drinking really terrible grape-flavored cool and just wishing we were dead. I don't hate that. It's a good bit. Yeah. It's pretty good bit. All right. I'd be glad you're okay with your role on the calls. I don't know I feel about majority of my role just as me being dumb. But but I like mixing drinks. So hey, I hate that you do push shrinks on people. I do. I do love pushing people which when we get to that part of the show not as funny not as funny as the business and my second guest is just an S. So just fine. How are you today? My name is Joe what the fuk can be Joe. If you wanted to be in this call. We have no I mean not called we'd we have no name's Jose my cult name, bro. Okay, I'll call Joe I want I will forget to do that. Actually. I don't want I don't want this to be quiet. But I feel if I'm giving rolls away. I feel you would be like my right-hand man, but eventually you would become more popular than me. And then you Julius Caesar me in the back and and take over my cult. Well, all right pot. Take like the idea though. I'm giving him ideas. I think it's going to take this has been off. One and only episode before Nest takes over the podcast on today's episode of let's start a cult. We will be talking about the peoples Temple and the chilling turn of events that led to the Jonestown Massacre the greatest single loss of American civilian life since nine-eleven are well, I guess it was before nine-eleven. So nine-eleven was I don't want to go will leave this earth conspiracy theory. It happened after nine-eleven. Oh, all right, right in the comments. You think I'm just going Stone happen after nine-eleven. How much do you guys know about Jonestown Massacre off off the top my head? Yeah the Dome nothing. I don't know anything about either of those events. Okay. What about you Justin? You know, I feel like I could throw in a big old guess but other than that. Yeah, I don't I don't feel like I was your guess. Yeah. What was what is the guess based on the brief description? I've given what is your guess on the Jonestown Massacre and the peoples Temple low-wage? I can pictures some people and some hoods, you know, believing in some crazy shit and then next thing you know, they all ran page The Village. I don't know pretty close in the first part of that hood. There is definitely hoods involved. I should maybe put a spoiler cuz you were so close. No, I'm kidding you were in that class but good. Guess we'll get to what exactly happened but first we want to start with the ring as it were James Warren Jones affectionately called Jim Jones. He was born May 13th 1931 in small town of Crete Indiana his father James named his son after himself kind of not a great bit. Like it's a called bit condescending. He was a good guy or not condescending just a little full of himself, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So James had been injured during World War One which met his family was dependent on their matriarch Lynette and I mean back in the the 1930s Ortiz pretty uncommon for The Matriarch to be the breadwinner, you know, and I mean, yeah, what what was she doing job? Yeah, it didn't it didn't really specify what issues during in that dough in but but I mean whatever she was doing it left Jim to be left to his own devices. He was all he was alone a lot and actually let Jim to begin making his way through the churches found in Lynn even going as so far as a friend local Pentecostal Minister and he began to be inspired by the preaching and the ideals of the churches that he visited any incorporate them into his own sermons, which you would share with the rest of the children in the community. So as a child he's going around spouting off religious beliefs to two other kids and he was a gifted and charismatic speaker even as a ten year old boy, but religious Zeal and the subject of his sermons often turned off a lot of his Playmates and he hated a lot of the usual activities such as Sports and dancing which led him to become ostracized from other kids his age and you love dancing as a kid Sam Twinkle Toes to call me it it sounds like he was a born leader a hero of the nation. You might retract that I mean leader sure wage. Definitely got those leader qualities the public speaking and being able to command attention real no-nonsense kind of guy wasn't down for dancing around singing with the kids. You know, he was no he was no clown or athletic. Did you say you must hurt in World War one and his dad? Oh the confusion because they have the same. Yeah. No, I was yeah, sorry. Okay, so he he wasn't hurt was like he was a cripple and War and he's ten months and I just wondering how I was also curious on how he fought I don't even think he was alive back then it would have been after the word that he was born. Okay. So his father was injured. Yeah, and actually I think it was a wage. I'm not mistaken. I think believe it was a gas attack that his father was injured by so he was out a lot of lung issues growing up and died pretty early symptoms. Not great. So additionally the Jones family wasn't really liked by their neighbors who remembered the Box generals that young Jim Held for dead animals in the neighborhood the frequency of this odd play routine unnerved his Playmates and their families the majority who believed the animals had been killed deliberately and cruelly by birth. Other than the boy dreaming them and actually in this quote on the 2006 documentary Jonestown the life and death of peoples temple. One of Jim Jones childhood friends. Chuck Wilmore says quote. I thought Jimmy was a really weird kid. He was obsessed with religion. He was obsessed with death and a friend of mine told me that he saw Jimmy kill a cat with a knife which you can already see what this is going. Most stories. Don't start most good stories don't start with anything. He killed the cat and then he he cured cancer. You know what I mean? Like it kind of fits with where where this is going. Like that's a tough hobby man killing cat killing stray animals. Well, I don't know if they're home. They might have been oh this even worse. It doesn't. Oh, I couldn't even danced. I didn't even answer the tears away. God damn it in the road to Jonestown by Jeff King Arthur claims that Jim was also fascinated with Adolf Hitler. So during during World War Two quote when Hitler committed suicide in April nineteen forty-five or dead. Enemies who sought to capture and humiliate him. Jim was impressed right skin in his book and I don't know if he was impressed that he killed himself which I mean as far as things to be impressed with Hitler is him killing yourself is probably a good thing to be impressed with him about. Yeah, maybe you could take I don't I don't know if that's a good take I know he killed a lot of people before that. So yeah, Jimmy kids just I think he's a coward and he created to Hitler killing himself and he's like, you know, if I had to go and I did all this weird fucking shit then I think I'd probably kill myself too. I don't know. It doesn't seem like that's what he would be. Well, I'm not James Jimmy, you know as fucked up by the sounds of it. So maybe he was impressed by it. Yeah. I mean anyone impressed with Hitler. It's probably not going to go. Well, you know what, I mean, especially since it's nice, I mean his dad was in World War One to be fair, but technically fought against Hitler because Hitler was in the war on the other side and you know, there wasn't a ton of media back then right? So I'm pretty curious, you know, if anything he's just he's dead. Word of Mouth what Hitler's doing ya know research done on him and he's thinking man. I'm kind of I kind of fuk with this guy like this guy down. This guy's do it. I mean, it's it's weird cuz Hitler doesn't really jive with his and and this is where it starts to get weird. I'll I'll go and so it's about to get weird been a normal child up until now stab and cats and barring them gets interesting cuz it off Hitler doesn't really mesh with Jim's morals and and like his compass and I don't know if he grew out of this maybe was just a fate, you know, when you're a teenager, you're like, oh, I love Hitler took her face. We all go through and a 4chan forum. And you're just I love Hitler and it's just I don't know if it's that but so maybe it's his love of the automotive industry, you know, like Hitler head Volkswagen into the mix and maybe it was a personal thing. I saw though. Yeah. I mean, it's possible. Let me let me go on and and and we'll see the dog. Missing part of his life. So in nineteen forty-nine eighteen-year-old Jim married Marceline Baldwin a striking woman who he had met while working in the hospital a couple welcomed a child together and went on to adopt several other children of God is at nesset. He's sort of like the Brad Pitt and Angela Angela Jolie and the angeloni and the Angelo Nyan of Olden time now Angelina Jolie so they were the brangelina long time Jim Jimmy Shalini Shalini there. Is quote-unquote Rainbow family was a source of pride and joy for Jim went off way to encourage others to adopt interracially. So you see where this gets weird. He he's a fan of Hitler but also is like he's a very against he's not very racist. He's not racist at all. He's very like a conclusive. He's very inclusive in that way. Like he's not unless you're a cat unless you're a cat or directly against Hitler. I guess. I don't know and it quickly becomes clear that the exact. Shouldn't be the end of his altruism from there. He worked as a pastor at a church advocating for integration and the end of the congregation segregation as could be expected though. This I did wasn't really welcomed by the church is existing leadership and Jim quickly found himself kicked out without a job. So he went on to like try and push for inclusion in the church and church was like fuck you. We don't like that in here like a different time. It was a different time. Yeah. I mean it wasn't that long ago less than a hundred years, which is yeah. There's been a lot of fucked-up stuff to happen in less than a hundred years. Yeah. That's true. That's true. So rather than trying to change his luck as another Parish Jim began preaching specifically to the African American communities Bird by the desire to help them rise above racism and discrimination that they were subjugated to at the time that would have been really fought way for like really forward-thinking. Yeah. There's very few people in this time. Jim Crow laws are like those kind of laws are still in place where I mean African Americans are free, but they're very much not oh, you know what? I mean? They're second-class citizens in this town. . And it's it's terrible and I mean for him to be very outspoken about this is It's kind of revolutionary. Yeah hundred percent. I think if he stopped at this point, he'd be this this would be a great story and a happy ending sucked but sadly, he does not the wheels fall off and it starts getting weird. So he he starts using quote unquote healing rituals to attract new members to his flock claiming to heal diseases and afflictions of all kinds during these events. Now this may seem a bit weird and rather sketchy to us modern audience. But Jim's healing rituals proved to be a big hit within two years. He already had a sufficient numbers of followers to start his own organization. And this is why it's kind of absurd after selling monkeys door-to-door marketing them is useful housepets. Jim was able to collect enough money to establish his own church in Indianapolis. I don't know about you guys, but these entrepreneur if Justin came to me and was like, hey, I got a monkey actually I want you to do it justice. Tell me a monkey. How would you sell me a monkey that's convincing job. Be useful be like, I don't know. Good morning, sir, if you like a monkey and then you'd be like, oh, yeah, I need be like, yeah, you know your son watches Curious George think of this guy, exactly like him probably a little Dumber but you know, that's that's the fun of it you get to teach a new things and who knows you might start AIDS like I don't know you might start a wage. I think it already started by this Seventeen. I'm sold there on that premise alone that he might start AIDS. Is it going to have sex with the monkey or you're telling the monkeys for sex? I never thought I think you're implying it. I don't understand. He doesn't have anything in the contract against it but he's not saying you can't have sex with a monkey's not saying you should know he is he is saying you should he is he's telling me directly here's a monkey that you can sleep. So Jim Jim made a killing selling sex month and then he bought a church. You know, what pretty in club Of you know, people want to have sex with monkeys. I'm not I think I think we've touched so much on having sex with animals or you get one of the baskets and back on the bike store and you put a hood over them and it's just like fuck any teeth. Like that's every kid's dream right? I also don't know if he was around. I'm willing to say Curious. George wasn't around you might have been in, Oh right. Now, I have no research or anything to back that up 3 UFO spottings way back when you know, maybe someone stole the whole ET idea from one of these monkeys that have had up. All right. I'm going to go that's not how we sold them but he sold lung cancer, which is weird really weird. I've I've never met anyone who sold monkeys so so so he gets his own church in Indianapolis from the monkey money. And in in nineteen fifty-six the peoples Temple originally called Wings of Deliverance way cooler such a cool band, man. So the church was born and it was nestled in Indianapolis, Indiana focused on Iraq. So integration and helping those in need at a time when most churches were segregated by race. This was a revolutionary unconventional and utopian idea and one that served a draw hordes of crowds to Jim sermons month. So yeah pretty popular guy right now pretty good guy right now other than the cats in the healing rituals and the Hitler thing huge and the monkey Community huge and the which healing Community. Okay. Yeah might be yeah, that'd be big in that. Okay big grifter. Yeah. Definitely Pandora sting. Yeah. Jim was charismatic and an idealist who wasn't afraid to share his views with others regardless of how contrary they ran to the status quo for instance. One of his core beliefs was capitalism was inherently evil and creating an imbalance between the world that made the rich richer and poor even poorer. He's very socialist is the Bernie Sanders wife is going to say America could have and I think Bernie Sanders was around the peoples Temple Jim strive to put his money where his mouth was establishing Avenues of people to help do good and contribute to their local school. And he's most importantly he encouraged his congregation to look past physical characteristics and circumstances of other people in a bid to go beyond racism discrimination and xenophobia that plagued America at the time Jim's work took him into a recognized and celebrated figure in Indianapolis and even served as a director of City Human Rights Commission in the early 1960s. Thanks to his tireless work with the homeless good guy, you know racist which again was the weird part where he was like, I love Hitler. I mean you didn't say I love Hitler but he respected Hitler. Yeah, it's weird cuz there's bit was I hate all Races except for my like, I don't know. He's kind of dog is a weird dude. I mean and he hates cats we can that that we can be for sure hates cats. We we don't know how I feel about monkeys. He loves selling them. And I mean if we're extrapolating off for Justin said sex monkeys, so maybe he loves monkeys too much. Maybe he loves sex. Maybe is there anything is there anything on that you adopted a lot? So I don't know if you did like a dog. This just going to it's going to adopt people and be a good person pretty soon though. Jim started started acting a bit erratically. Well, he had always perceived the threat of nuclear war to be inevitable his age groups so much that in 1962. He was actively looking for a way to survive the apocalypse this let him to an article in entitled nine places to hide published in Esquire magazine in January June 1962, which listed several locations across the globe that would purportedly remain intact even after a nuclear war among these places was Eureka, California a landlocked Area North of San Francisco that choice to be a safe place to to Sahara's that surrounded it because of this Jim decided to relocate the peoples temple from Indianapolis to Redwood Valley situated approximately 150 miles south of Eureka. So he moved a bunch of people like across the country to California because he was afraid of the nuclear war very forward-thinking. It's kind of sad that that had such an effect on people in America wage I mean like people grew up with the fear of nuclear war like all the time. You still probably should. Yeah, definitely more than ever definitely probably should be more worried about it. Now. It's kind of crazy that he just life removing. How many people at this point was he do you think he was moving like it's a 65 families. Holy so that's a lot. I mean a family could be too so it's a cult wage at this point. It's basically it's the root. This is the starting of the cult phase is the starting of where it starts to get. Oh gyms off his rocker now, but he is considering it a religion this point wings of Deliverance. He's always operated in the the church, right? Yeah. So when he got kicked out this was his way of still pushing his religion, but but doing his own thing, which I mean at the beginning was a good and no gym claims that they moved because of the nuclear war many claim that the motivated reason could be because this was also the point when they launched an investigation khong Was healing rituals. So that might be a percentage. I don't know I can't say for sure. I don't know Jim. You know what? I mean? And Jim are boys. He died a long time ago spoilers if she is dead. Yeah, the the monkey Hitler lover is dead Justin. I'm sorry to sorry to break it to you. I hope he died from AIDS. No. No, I am so in Redwood Valley the peoples Temple slowly expanded their operation the 65 families that had followed Jim from Indiana to California worked hard to establish homes for the elderly as well as services for drug addict an orphan children's their work attracted Praises from the community published in newspapers and even loaded lauded by the local politicians voted voted voted allotted allotted the media Thursday activities garnered made Jimmy into an even bigger celebrity and before long he was seen as selfless charitable and compassionate man a shining Beacon of American values and idealism damn use the Superman song. Day, this guy was good shit. I mean up until this point. He's had a few weird moments. Obviously. I mean, you can't blame em too much for I mean, you can't blame kids too much like it's it's weird that he killed. Mm. I mean all agree that still and then the healing thing. Yeah. He's a quack people are calling him a clock for the healing thing at this point, but I think as far as grifters go he's taking the money. He's getting the healing and actually putting it into good thing so far. Yeah, you can't hate that part of it. You can hate that. He's swindling people into healing them cuz he is definitely taking advantage of people but for sure he's not a terrible human being right now, but underneath this veneer of perfection and altruism lay a dark and Sinister secret while other song man filled by his principles in a utopian vision of the world. The real Jim Jones was a mental a hinged and unbalanced individual his actions would eventually spell Doom for those in his congregation. That's a little foreshadowing, you know a little bit of tees for what's coming any any questions or comments suck. On Jim Jones so far it would have been cool if he called us call Monkey Business holyshit. I would have been also a good band name might be one a cult. Well, you literally had a business selling monkeys. It would be should we you can't legally sell monkeys any more. I looked into it just on the pot or before just now. Oh, okay. I thought you just knew this off. Now. I had you can't I thought wow a long-lost trade. I am tired of working question. Yeah, what did he do to convince his sixty five families to follow him across the country. That's a good question. I'm not sure what he said to them. But at this point it's safe to say he has a lot of control over these people being this and and it is set a lot of times in in a different spots that he was a very charismatic person. So for him to convince people to move for the greater good of people I don't think is a stretch like for you and I it might be weird. As we're not we're not in a cult, right? So it's it's hard to imagine being wow, being that enthralled with a leader that that could just be like, hey, we're moving here, you know, maybe maybe that's like monkey team is made up and or bananas and he's in California. You promised them dreams of grandeur and monkeys. However, the the Dynamics of the peoples Temple started changing when they settled in California. Like I said it this is the the beginning of the the Cold War monkeys know the heat the monkeys were not there as he promised low. So from a a church dedicated to God and less fortunate the peoples Temple slowly turned into the cult that it became. It would started becoming geared towards Jones and his ever-changing whims their aims gradually became more political and more communist with members forced to pledge to all their material possessions and money to Jim some even signed over custody of their children to them mistakenly believing that the profit which was a nickname Jim soon wage. Adopted after relocating was the only one capable of rearing kids in the proper way. Oh, that's creepy. So we're getting weird. He's adopting by force now. Also, I think if anyone starts calling themselves Prophet The Oracle anything like that, we you probably have a situation. He starts calling himself some worst thing the overlord the all Mighty Overlord your clothes off every single thing. The member of the peoples Temple did revolved around the wants and needs of and dislikes of gyms. So if the profit didn't like it, they didn't do it basically which is how it would like my life to go if people don't if I don't like it, I don't want them there any way to get to know like selling monkeys stop doing it, please it's wrong. Meanwhile Jim became infatuated with power and authority even going as far to believe in the very myth that he created about himself off. His followers were required to address him as either father or dad and later your song referring himself to Christ or God good bit. So I think he's just yeah, he's he's about eighty years too early to be calling him. Daddy know what I mean. Where's daddy's monkey? And I know I'm not easily and he's legally adopting all of the children or they're signing their kids over. Yeah. Listen, most of the family members have definitely have a lot of stake in this they have given up everything. If not their children for for sure most they're material possessions. I mean moving that far they didn't have much Choice there pretty pretty isolated. Yeah, exactly. They're away from their friends family and like it's the beginning of the I'm your only the warning light. It's a it's a classic manipulative boyfriend or girlfriend, you know, right on you know that I know that I I've been there and for a boy who spent most of his childhood neglected by his parents the attention and influence that gym now possess took a totally intoxicating. Yes daddy issues, which is why you got himself the nickname dad father makes sense King Kong King Kong King Daddy, but Tension was clearly not enough from he began taking large quantities of amphetamines and barbiturates. What's that? Were Barbra chew drugs dance? Yeah, he's going to take a lot of in phetamine initially as a way to stay awake much longer. However, this is soon involved into recreational drug use which led him to experience major mood swings and exacerbated his paranoia this combined with Xfinity reading Health meant that dangerous and unhinged manned lurked beneath the image of the God-fearing and iconic philanthropist that Jim had carefully cultivated throughout the years. So he slowly turning into to the Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde, which was the crazy one Mister hyzer drive you crazy one year. I think the doctors they the good doctors East a good ticket. Yeah. I don't know how much of a good doctor is left in gym married at this point fueled by his drug abuse. Jim's paranoia led him to believe that both the CIA and FBI backed by the entire United States government were after him and the peoples Temple dead. This Thread along with the expose article that was about to be published spurred him into relocating his church. Once again no time to Guyana South America. So we're leaving the couch and then what about the Monkees? Oh, well, they're probably more finally we're getting back to what's important. Yeah, like they're going right to the middle of a dense jungle. So there are definitely I don't know if there's monkeys I'm going to assume there's monkeys that maybe there is I'm going to make a large assumption in Sioux. Maybe he went because of the monkey. Yeah, who knows he said there. I know there wasn't monkeys in California guys. But listen, you've given me everything back up until this point. I'll give you the Monkees we're going to get monkeys and then and that was it how many families of this point does? Is there any I'm curious if it's if the call it's larger at this point there is still wage that people okay going down with him a guy on a like Yeah, and I don't know. I I personally don't understand it. But I guess like if you're in that situation when you owe him everything and he dead These are children like your children have grown up thinking the students God, right? Yeah, it's hard to be like we're saying no to God. Yeah, I don't know it's weird but moving on the members of the P Temple followed Jim to South America believing in his vision of a utopian communion amid, the country's dense jungle as well as in his Charisma and larger-than-life personality in June of though Jim became even more controlling using drugs to ensure that none of his followers escaped his clutches within the compound. We're piles of mind-altering substances, including Quaaludes Demerol Valium morphine off and about eleven thousand doses of Franzen. I don't know what that is, but apparently it was a drug that helped individuals suffering from mental illness like issues. So, I mean, it sounds like a SoundCloud rappers dream. Most people's nightmare. I feel like being controlled by drugs is don't do drugs. I think that's the more of the story here. Here's the thing don't do hard drugs because a completely rational Spiritual man until he found our drunkies and monkeys. So rather than the Utopia the people's Temple was promised. They emerged face the harsh realities of living in the jungle members were forced to carry out manual labor in the sweltering tropical heat often working long and grueling hours in a bid to please Jim the agriculture Paradise. Jim promised his congregation never materialized. The jungle soils are notoriously thin and lacked the nutritious nutritious nutrient nutrient I got there. It is sufficient to grow crops despite the efforts of the peoples Temple. They weren't able to plant anything and were forced to go into town and beg for food. Most of the time they came back with discards spoiled and rotten food for the market which they had to share with one another so long. It's not looking great, you know, it went from helping people in communities in America to being just really poor and hungry. I would imagine in and sick I'm assuming Sick, I would assume a lot of them were sick. Yeah, it says in this next like in this in this next paragraph hear their starvation was made him worse by the mosquitoes that were constantly feeding on their skin as well as the snakes at the always kept them on their table. Maybe not a it's just maybe a little malaria action. Wow. Oh wow. He's also I think have that so don't quote me on that. I don't know monkeys and malaria during the dry season wage every single member participated in a bucket poor grades. Just so that their plants went died. The work was backbreaking and harsh often like it was done In the Heat of the sun, which is grow up but humidity. It's all right. Well Sam, you know Samsung website here. He wants he says grow up you moved there. It's your fault pretty much how the village going to run without the bucket brigades. It would be a great name for the call and Bucket Brigade. What does it imply though? I don't know like the wings of Deliverance economy is like you're going to heaven I think and the monkey business is just fun job. Hell, I don't know but bucket brigades got good alliteration thing but it was like yeah Stairway to Heaven, you know one bucket at a tile your pilot's gets on each other get to heaven. Yeah, you might have you fall I guess but God damn more importantly Jim Brett a culture of mistrust among the congregants. None of them are allowed to talk with one another which made Place planning to escape Jonestown downright impossible. He also planted several trusted members who were tasked to weed out those who weren't a hundred percent in on the cult. So, you know, he's starting to stir that that mister, like people can't confide in one another which makes you know getting out of there a lot harder and you're just isolated. It's safe to assume a lot of these people are just depressed and like want out there but they're too scared to to make a break for it themselves. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's they're ostracized for for feeling like rape or something wrong exactly slowly news of their awful circumstances reached family and friends back home. I don't know why it took so long but like pretty far off. If I mean, yeah now they are but if one of my friends are family like a moving to California to help this guy out. I'd be like a little strange like maybe don't but they began pressuring the United States government to take action against Jim and save their loved ones from the horrible conditions of life in Guyana, which was then referred to as Jones. Oh, there's the title of the episode roll credits. Let's see bag is Jose sound sounds so cool. That sounds like it sounds like a cool Beach town or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, like I'm going down to Florida to go to Jones. Yeah, exactly like fucked up Quaaludes. And yeah. Monkey ass, yeah exactly facing growing public dissatisfaction over there lack of action as well as their own growing, unease with the disturbing news coming out of South America the government elected and representative Leo Ryan of California to Joan's down to investigate what was really going on within the walls of The elusive Infamous compound even America who's like will allow the Klu Klux Klan to be here dead. Yeah, we're a little concerned about what's happening down there. So even there like that's enough like the governments involved at this point not even our country and we're concerned about what you're doing with our citizens down there. We're coming down. Yeah interesting when news of Representative Ryan's visit reached Jim his paranoia and fears of the government intervention increased or drastically and for him, it was probably like it's true like this the conspiracy that I've had in my life and they're coming for me. He's probably so high. Yeah. Yeah, his mind addled with drugs concluded that the visit would bring nothing but doomed to him and his loyal followers on November 14th, 1978 representative Leo Ryan arrived in Jonestown accompanied by a whole slew of newsman and relatives of the cultists four days later. They concluded their unofficial investigation and prepared to depart bring along with them for a doctor's from the peoples Temple. They did the investigation people were like I Want the Funk out of here like this guy is crazy 14 people raise their hand like, yeah. We're and to be fair. I think more people would but their families are dead. Yeah, so it's hard to be like I want to cuz what if your family's like they're they're loyal to follow what if they believe in the call and if they're young enough and if they've grown up there, yeah, they've they're probably uh, so a lot of people with kids I feel were just in the situation where they're like, oh, we're here we're staying I guess this is where it starts getting bad. And this is a warning it starts going downhill from here. So if they you don't love graphic description, maybe leave it at this it was the the representative came and he saved everyone and that's it plugged ear's Justin. I can't listen song on November 14th, 1978 representative Leo Ryan arrived in Jonestown. Oh, I already sent Louis. He's back. He's back. He came back again. I got the same amount of people know as a group stood on the in the airstrip near Jonestown waiting to board the flight that would take them back to the United States a group of armed men from the cult struck them under orders from Jim obviously how else They were only successful in killing the representative 3 News men and one Defector and I say only because there were a lot more people but I mean that's like quite a bit of people to kill like and the representative right? Like yeah, I you know, America's probably not going to be happy with that. Oh, they're like, oh you fucked up boy. No, that would give us fears. That would wrap everything up real nice. That'd be great. I mean it'd be nuking a foreign country. So that would be an issue. That would be an issue. Yeah, that would for the foreign country club the failed assassination attempt made matters worse Jim believe that those who escaped with their lives would bring the authorities ending him in the peoples Temple for good which is a good assumption cuz probably what was going to happen. So he made a last last ditch effort attempt to ensure that his congregation would continue to follow him no matter what quote he tells the people it's over. It's all over they're coming for us this Thursday. It's time to transition to the other side says Julia scheeres the author of A Thousand Lives the untold story of Hope deception and the survival at Jonestown prior to this mass suicide pact has statistically conducted rehearsals to figure out how best to carry it out. It was through these practices of these practice sessions that he found out that killing children babies first would be the most effective and discouraged their parents off and escaped with their lives. So pretty dark that they would practice this like multiple times lady. He he was killing people during the practice these weren't focus groups. They they he wasn't killing people at this time. But he was he was I I don't think anyway, I believe it was just like they were they were focus groups. Maybe they were I don't I don't actually know that so interesting that would make sense cuz how do you practice that's what I'm that's what I'm curious. Yeah, like, okay. So now you're dead. Oh, no that one and the baby at work you're crying. I'm just not believing it John. I'm just off. Leaving it cry harder than other 10. How will likely are you to leave right now? So I mean all joking aside pretty fucked-up. Yeah pretty bad that day on November 18th nearly off in the compound believed it to be another mass suicide rehearsal only realizing that it was the real thing when the youngest member of the peoples Temple started frothing at the mouse after syringes dropped a lethal mix of cyanide sedatives powdered fruit juice down their throat. So it's not great. I don't know how to say like, it's it really shity and to a certain point like like like they said they thought they were going wage the rehearsal which is pretty shity. I mean imagine being in a play. Yeah showing up for rehearsal thousands of people think it's a dry run but and you were you're hungover cuz you were partying the night before thinking no one's going to care about this. So no quote. They started with the babies said Odell roads, the only known survivor of the Jonestown Massacre it just dead. All out of order babies are screaming children's or screaming and there was mass confusion according to him. It only took about five minutes for the side and had to do his job and then the adults lined up and took a sip of the poison them prepared for them his final act as their leader their profit and their father. It's terrible. I mean this says like to think that these people were doing it willingly is like it's wrong to think that cuz their I mean guys with guns or crossbows, I believe it says here lined up behind them. So they yeah they had rows of crossbow men lined up behind them. Just waiting to kill anyone that disagreed right and I mean at this point like their children had already passed away, so I don't think a lot of them wanted to live with that kind of guilt. Yeah, there's not there's not much left for them at that point. Yeah, and it's a very Bleak way to be fair. Very dark. I mean I kind of want to skip over a lot of this cuz it's kinda gory. We'll skip to like, I mean a lot of them take it like this guy was the only Survivor obviously and I just wanted to point out. Tire you can't really blame the parents and the families cuz they were put in this situation. It was like a frog in water you slowly boil it or a lobster in water. Is that it Lobster water you slowly boil it so they don't feel the temperature rising. Okay, that's kind of what this call was, right? They started off doing really amazing things right amazing like Against Racism against the rich All Good Things. I Hate racists and I hate people so at that point, I love monkeys. You should have stuck with the monkey stuff. Yeah, I could have really changed the outcome if the Monkees had prepared the it'd be fun Pack 12, I'd prepare the Kool-Aid would have been fine. It would have been like what the fuck's would have been fine. Yeah. So when when the guy needs authorities arrived in Jonestown the following day a terrifying and website awaited them the entire compound was carpeted and hundreds of bodies. Most of whom had their arms around each other and remnants of fraud froth around their mouths syringes and cups filled with a dog. Was looking liquids were scattered all over the place. And as for Jim, he was just discovered dead of a gunshot wound to the Head some say he took his own life while this claim that his trusted nurse and more off the Fatal blow before turning the gun on herself. There's that Hitler bit, you know ended himself. He I don't know it's kind of telling to be like, oh he took he took the gun like he took the bullet instead of drinking Kool-Aid as he knew that would be the worst way to go. You know what I mean? The coward's way out basically and it and it sucks that he never got hot to pay for this like Penance but I like to think of there is a God in heaven. He's down there Burning For Eternity, you know, yeah, that's bad. That's pretty bad. According to Julia scheeres. The only thing that Jim wanted it of the peoples temple in the Jonestown Massacre was complete and utter control quote tried to control people's bodies. She said in her book, he couldn't stand it when people left the church and he would go into a rage but ultimate control and the ultimate loyalty test for him was if I order you would you lay down your life for a job? Ask for me for many of the nine hundred nine people. Oh nine hundred nine people. There you go. Nine hundred people nine hundred nine people died that day. And that's fourteen. So there was around a thousand people who follow them too. Yeah down there, right cuz you can you can safely assume probably some died from starvation beforehand. Yeah or disease or disease or anything like that. But for many of the nine hundred nine people who died that day three hundred of whom were aged Seventeen or younger they were never given a chance to say no to gym, right instead. They were forced to follow a mentally unstable control freak with an unquenchable thirst for power over their grave pretty sad story that started off start off. Okay. Yeah started off kind of hot, but questions concerns comments a lot of concerns. I mean, yeah definitely concerned home and it's I don't know. I understand why people got into it's like why people got into this group because it is it was a a group for good originally and then wage, Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. I believe that's the same Justin. So the same Customs at the same something like that. I don't know. I think it's it's kind of stupid that you know, as soon as like he was like, yeah. Oh the other side of the fucking States I would have been like fuck you pal. Like well, we'll just we'll start our own HQ here. You can go and recruit some more over there. You weird guy. You ought to have our monkeys Jim Jim. I bought them. You don't need to go there maybe was holding the Monkees hostage. Maybe you know, I mean, it's also offered because of very different time a lot less information being available to the average person and you know people always want Something to Believe In so like you said early on I mean you could see yes she had being enticing sure exactly. I mean cal cal e r n to Kali baby Khali who if anyone says that to me, I mean teaches cool cool. Who asks water fire a lot of fire not then drugs. I mean, they would have had me a drugs, right? I mean I thought you said don't do drug. No. Sorry. I mean at home water. Yeah, like yeah, it's it's tough to blame the families. I mean it is there is a certain amount of responsibility on the parents for sure that the children you can't blame it all really they were kind of grown up in that situation and four years room to believe that he was a god really shity. Not a good guy. Listen, if I were to, you know, do my own thing my own cult probably wouldn't kill everyone probably unless you had to you got somebody kill me before like the second day, but by that point he's got everyone under his thumb these people are kind of dumb in the sense. Like you would die faster from across bowed to the heart then drinking that shit. I would have been like fuck you and thrown some sign out in one of their faces, you know, go like I told them that you were there just in the hero, they needed a rebellion Leader dog. Or you would've been the first one dead very possible. But so you're you're a bit would be charged the crossbow line sure. Not a bad bit. I mean it's better than drinking shitloads, you know, waiting 5 minutes for it to click in and then you just dial horrible death. I'd rather just shoot me in the head with a crossbow little then you just drop and it's over. Well, we know how he wants to go now. He's most things across Blow To The Head ahead and grape Kool-Aid. So or you grab one of the kids that one of the crossbow like people like one of their kids and you just grab them you're like, oh, you know use them as a like a meat Shield type thing and then you're like, oh God Justin go. Shoot me you're going to go through your chip. First today is well, you wanted everyone dead. I do think that would have helped. Yeah, and I think the guys with the crossbow were definitely the most loyal to him. Yeah, cuz they must have all you're not hitting the guy the crossbow that's going to kill you like know they either didn't have a family wage. Or we're just so invested in it that they didn't care if their family had died. Like is this the event that the Kool-Aid term? Yes. This is where it derives from. It's been interesting very interesting. Yeah, so I'm very surprised. Actually you guys hadn't heard of it cuz it is a pretty big thing. But I guess I mean, I guess if you're not looking into that kind of stuff, it's not it's not on your radar really, right? Yeah. It happened so long ago or not like in the office Kool-Aid reference. I've definitely heard many times. I think most people have and it's got its kind of morbid when you really think about it, but pretty messed up pretty not great brand new great way know like the Chrome right now. Yeah. So this has been let's start call podcast. I've been Josh thanks to my guests Sam would and and Justin s. Do you guys have any closing statements closing down Shadows that you want to want to you want to show anything out anything you're working on thinking about starting a band now. Okay, James guy, which one is Dad? I mean if he'd loved his son a bit more. Yep. Might not have happened. Yeah, he was an idiot in war and came back and lived a good life of his son is something probably would have been. All right. Well who know you like Trump also like you're war heroes not in cash to have them. Well, that's good. I'm glad you're not on the same side. Yeah. So thank you everyone for listening to the very first episode and I look forward to hopefully doing more. Happy episode next time. I'm going to only have you guys on for the sad episode think there's a lot of happy Cults there might be a few. I don't know maybe some that are so far removed that they're not as bad habit or sad. Yeah, maybe a little bit of a happier ending happier happier if less than 900% it's happy or just a smaller cult. Yeah, maybe all right everyone. If you liked this episode we love for you to subscribe rate and give us a review on iTunes. If you have any questions comments or concerns about this episode, please write us an email or record your job. And send it to start a cult podcast and at the end of our next episode we might read or play your response and answer it. Thanks for listening, and we will see you next time. 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Some website summarizes the identity identity to swinger ellas just looked sufficiently yet gone far enough down that rabbit hole and he's taken on met cardona in a mystery crate match not a wrestling match or yeah. There are four mystery grayson each of ring posts. Whatever is inside of them can be legally used in the match swingers. The first open a great and he finds a framed photo of scott hall. You know sure fine is like johnny. Knox cardona the apron. Sending him into the steel guardrail to swing. Man was another crates but it comes back to bite him as his hand gets stuck in a rat trap. Both men are down after a clash of heads. Swinger fines brass knuckles in an next great but matt puts him way with radio silence before he can use them. Whatever is in the fourth and final crate cardona lakes and takes with him to the back after the match despite not being booked for the event. Semi callahan comes out to the rig looking to teach trae miguel. Another lesson to take what he wants. Callahan wants a match on hardcore justice. So he lays out an open challenge which is answered by one or trey students. Sam beal the draw immediately tastes control as he bites the hand of bill. Callahan continues to l. His opponent with an explorer suplex onto floor. Sam almost pains the haggar that with a series of rule ups. Sammy refocuses in connection with a vicious package. Piledriver to win. He sees to good at pulling up the win next up. Brian myers takes on jake. Something in a hardcore blindfold match because okay a blindfold match with hardcore rules so you can hit somebody with anything. You want to sue me. You can find them. This match came about after. Brian myers interrupted a bout between jake. Something and matt cordona on impact myers would go on injured. Jake's i By driving into the steel cage singer rig steps. That sounds familiar. What did ramos zero recognize. What was going on there tonight. Both competitors will blindfolded in a match with no disqualifications and no count outs as he tried to find their footing. The fight spills the outside. Were brian successfully lands. A shot with a trash can lead. Somehow even know can't see each other anyway. The most professional wrestler plans him to the mass but attempts to pin while jake is lying on his stomach. Something rolls around and hits a sit down. Power around for to myers uses the referees. Shield then takes off his blindfold to connect with a superkick. Mercadona comes inside with the mystery crate from earlier and slides it to jake. Who swings brian as the crate explodes open with action. Figures geico hits the black hole slam fruits as damn to score the victory so yeah it was Nice hard hitting matchin rather humorous to see all the hardcore self. That really probably shouldn't be that hard core but anyway speaking of black hole slam in case you forgot who did the black hole slam originally from third degree burns the music of tna wrestling huh. Here is down into catacombs You're listening to wrestling with fan. Bloomberg germany's interest rock says available. Flap hot matic and all major podcast sources Being for not one foot of this dang saw attracted surfeit of the blood of gallon for their their whole for life at liberty here made the sacrifice here gave their lives gave right wing able cute turn From category six disabled track from their album wars hail from right here in saint john's newfoundland which hasn't been all that sunny recently. But we're getting back to it before that. Dale oliver from third degree burns the music of teeny wrestling with two catacombs for abyss. You're listening to wrestling. Fan will mercury rony. During rust right here on potter medic and via other podcasts distributing methods like stitcher and iheartradio and i tunes and stuff like that so we've got three more matches for hardcore justice. Hopefully it's not doing too much to the time. I have for my show but i got more truncated stuff for muscles rusty show because i just have so much talk about. I just wanted to give this a fair shake because at a day when i did let to show last week i only had two matches to talk about. 'cause i recorded it the day over the day before the show was actually supposed to take place so i kind of felt bad about that so now. I'm giving them as much as i can give them. Rosemary took on tindale dashboard and jordan. Grace and lisa edwards and havoc and soo young known continuous ship match for the nocco championship and his weapons match while susan was making her entrance. She's attacked by alter ego the terrifying soo young soo. Replace a susan in a match where the winner will become number one contender for the nocco. Seidel devel- rings antonio immediately retreated floor sue havoc and rosemary take part in an undated realm reunion each other everyone surrounds dash would show prepares us a stable gun. Caleb with a k. Sacrifices himself but ends up getting stapled for his actions. Grace hits edwards with a sidewalk slam into a steel trash can young. Since jordan head headfirst into the steel chair a moments later rose. Marie spears sue before locking in upside down on grace. The demon assassin introduces a bag thumb tacks but alicia used them for two advantage on the floor. Just like eddie edwards. Has kenny candlestick. Alicia has his wife kendra. So i'm just wondering. Now if they actually had a wedding ceremony between kenyan kendra. So i assume locks into bloody glove mandible claw on edwards and they brought him back havoc. I on the top rope. When nevada appears at ringside and blinds her with powder. Willie she didn't blinder with signs jordan. Capitalizes with the vader bomb. But caleb pulls her off the pin to kneel russia's into the ring to steal the pin and become number one contender. Because you know tar heel ian. She's twirling her sadly reply mustache and she's being rather effective cowardly villain so yeah and acting like she really accomplish something. At rate nocco champagne deonna purrazzo next up defending against jazz in title versus career match. In addition to the high stakes stipulation does match will be contested under old school rules. Meaning there are no disqualifications. Anything goes jazz. Hits a spin kick for an early to count. Deanna quickly turns things around by targeting. The arm of her challenger at hugh prepares the lock into food. You are number two champion traps jazz into ropes then delivers a pinpoint dropkick that sends to the floor. Dc w. original crease separation and brings a fight to the outside where she whips the daca champagne into the steel ring. Post jazz lines. A series of strikes then connects with a modified x factor to then pays amish innovator violence with add ddt onto a steel chair but frozen kicks out. Deanna fights out to be double under hook and hits queen's gambit to score the victory effectively ending the career of jazz not effectively actually but anyway and in the main event tommy dreamer has been attacked moments before to hardcore war and dr ross will not clear him for competition so we have violent by design. Eric young joe doering diener and rhino versus team dreamer impact world champion rich. Swann willie mack eddie edwards and somebody. The rules are hardcore. warriors follows. Two men start alone for five minutes. Every two minutes newman enters from alternating teams. A match cannot end until the final man has entered after all eight men have entered. The match is won. By pinfall or submission. There are no disqualifications and violent by design while have the numbers advantage after winning the coin toss diener odors of the first two competitors suspecting that vbb man be responsible for the attack on tommy dreamer at. He jumps erste match with a vengeful burst. Offense then connects with a backpack on her. As rhino makes his way to the ring with q suspecting that be may be responsible for the attack on tommy dreamer eddie jumps ursa match with the eventual bursts of offense then connects with a backpack center. As right oh makes his way to the ring with full cue and vbb gaining their first numbers advantage. Willie mack evens the odds with kenny kendo. Stick and she'll chain then places. A toaster between legs diener whipping him with chain. Hardcore war continues as joe during enters once again turning this into a handicap match. The beat down rolls on before impact world champion. Re swan comes bearing gifts in the form of a table and street sign moment impure is trio lays in a beat down on violent by design. Eric young is the final entrance for. Vbb as he introduces a hockey stick into hardcore war. Two minutes later the clock for the final member of the team dreamer hits zero and trae miguel's music hits. It appears as though scott d'amore has replaced diener with trae hardcore war miguel's on fire as he hits a double dive to both young inner on the floor. Doering shots trae down by hitting a massive running body. Rhino drives swan through a table for two a huge tower of doom. Out of the corner. Trae hit story with a meteoroid to send him through a table to the outside. I missed the chaos young connects with a piledriver to willie score the pin an award. Violent by design the victory so that was hardcore. Dresses rather hardcore show One of those mini shows a took place on or around wrestlemania weekend. Anyone who chose not to watch it. I mean you're just gonna come off. As a world-class maniac did Asked Slamming risley newsradio on. Its back. two thousand two. You're listening to wrestling with bamboo. Gironi ring rust available. Laugh hotta and all major podcast sources do some all the little boys. What don't know how alias. Boys go pie wasted from their album. Cinco saying sorry with boys can't dance as a new. My got from seizure. Mer actually a siege. Moore's on a blow as many realizations are were on a mailing list for various musicians and their production companies management. Yes anyway and you know they send out occasionally a big old list of You know albums rusted download and play on our shows and dared one of them and before that dale oliver world-class maniac four for the former showtime. Now he's violent by design eric. You're listening to wrestling trademark. You ronnie during rest right here on paramedic and by other podcast cheering media next up. We have inex- t takeover stand and deliver a night one. So i'm not gonna go into too much detail. I'm as much as i went into just now with hardcore justice. Like i said i wanted to give do them a bit. Better justice from last week. So i'm just gonna run down the actual results for varsity shows. Because i think. I'm not going to have the time to talk about all of what i wanna talk about as much as i wish. I could zoe. Stark tony storm during the stand and deliver kickoff pete dunn defeated kushida in a match to determine who is the best technical wrestler and quite message to see on top of it. Brunson defeated is e swerve. Scott cameron grimes. La night dexter lewis and leeann roof in a six man gauntlet eliminator match to determine the number one contender for the angsty north american championship. A night to an Uk champion walter defeated tomas o. champa q. Defend his title and move to annex e uk prelude to defend his title a second time in two days. Msk wesley and nick carter defeated grilled join veterans. James drake ends. Zach abson and laguna del. Fantasma wildy young raw mendoza and joaquin wild in a triple threat. Tag team match for the vacant. Nfc tag team championships. And in the main event raquel gonzalez defeated women's champion. Eeo shirai to win her. First title in annexed state and it was quite the emotional night for her by the will quite emotional nature a lot of people and The only is at the only wo- new champions. But i think that's the only title change proper as such for that particular show not that it wasn't enough but long standing champion e. Oh sure i was able to Put off a good fight against a strong opponent who she shows herself. Apparently to say i want you to. I wanna fight you. Okay all your regret it or i bet you won't. Oh i bet. I will and boy did she. Anyway so get out the way. Oh leading wrestling news radio dry suit. Thousand two you're listening to wrestling with fan boy. Mercury rone's ring rust available lap automatic and all major podcast sources. Doc would kill kilmer's You throw all similar. What exactly the santa's sack chris fast long donna. Medicine have gone suite. That good. I could see and the senate Fast Gave the does glory hound from somewhere into west coast. I think manitoba anyway from their album. Electric dusk with issue are before they get out the way for new annex. T women's champion raquel gonzalez. You're listening to wrestling with trademark. You ronnie during rest right here on paramedic and by other podcast sharing media next onto annex t uk prelude because it happened you know the day after an takeover send deliver but thank one but before neetu so it happened during the day of so chronologically. I think this is a little bit pedantic anyway so again i'm just gonna do to results Tyler as defeated gnome dr in a heritage cup championship. No morning continue shipped match to one Mako et cetera. and amelia. mackenzie if kaley radi inex- uk women's champion and eyelid on and annex uk champion walter defeated rampage brown defending his title twice in two days. He must have been tired. And don't know maybe he needed a nap or something any rate. I'm sure he sat down afterwards. Endless grand old music like sufi number nine in e minor league only our you're listening to wrestling with fan boomers rone's rigorous available lap automatic and all major podcast sources took running around show nasa gov even saab doubt stein to the show. Rock would five back to only took wa no doubt from their toe titled with total hate before that deaf rebel. I don't know if that's one members of c fos or what's going on with differ. While i keep seeing that name and not knowing what is in reference to anyway so with symphony number nine in a minor for next to uk. Champion walter like me on facebook dot com slash ray. Rust follow me on twitter. At march bernie and subscribe to jabber -nology tv youtube dot com slash. Fan boy matrimony. No time for this week's macho fact. Randy savage can clap with one hand and macho man. Blew up the death star with the top rail will drop without a longtime ago in a galaxy. Far far away should've new old. You're watch for a and draw. You better watch for talking bill. The no right down by all all before by the time w flat on the floor. The lack of number one is coming. They become your way guitar perfect. You laid off that now your hospital before the rainy. You're all your gary. But in too late i did not don't know how thank you for your you better watch or combat to be you better watch out of my glove do in my style dude about through you. Want the goal of all tower power with semi in ring. Grow wild food. Do book back you watch for me. You better watch for the no by must show paying pain called me m not show may plots safe for the water chopin. Wendy who play with a get spotted better stock would become you a case scenario you get no change students smoke. Get and i'm about ready to go go. You better watch out. Show are consider making the donation three dot com slash life Decides after serving. Tv's use them a around him. Fresh faces your suva. No one else speed uh-huh skin grays take zoo south out. I'll anna morrissett from the collection with crazy her version of the seal song. Which when. I think i like that one better actually. I mean there's something to be said about seal version but you know i kinda liked the also like video for that particular song so and before. That's this week's much effect. You're listening to wrestling fan. Bark sharoni during rest right here. In paramedic and virus podcast sharing sources like iheartradio and sicher and i tuned in next up we have nfc takeover sending deliver neetu. Then just the results attack a little bit maybe if wanted to matches strikes my fancy all talk a little bit more about it but i think i'm doing pretty good for time now. Mad dogs and englishmen killing dane and drake derick defeated breeze. Ango tyler breeze and fandango during the kickoff to with the winner receiving a future annex t take team championship match unlike when crime. Time did that twice and didn't once receive their tag team title match. But that's just remembering things santos escobar interim annex e cruiserweight champion defeated jordan. Devlin do not interim i guess and exceed cruiserweight champion in atlanta rashtra to determine the undisputed annex t cruiserweight champion. So that mean. Now he's gonna come out to the undisputed era theme or maybe. I don't know who knows what they'll do with that net. Probably nothing as just a funny. Maybe not quite so funny thought anyway. An exceed women's tag team champions black moon amber moon and chassis blackford defeated candy. Candice laura andy hartwell for offer. Nothing of not a number in condition or anything for the women's tag team titles anyway. So those just the excuse to see kenneth lay in. Indy hartwell performing against imerman and chelsea blackhawks. I suspect none of those women had their natural hair colors. I'm looking at you candace laurie. Nash chassis blackheart. Kansas laurey nfc north american champion. Johnny gargano with siri. His corner defeated brunson reads to defend his title so johnny takeover now that he's actually a tarheel ian is now actually johnny takeover. So he didn't win as much as he probably could have to call himself. Johnny take over. He wasn't exactly did takeover carrying cross with scarlet in his corner defeated. Nfc champ in baylor to win his second and hopefully longer reign of the title so hopefully after seeing the most recent episode of inex- he will be getting some very very serious stuff from carrying cross a former killer. As i understand it he used to be killer cross now. He's carrying cross. Which i guess is technically that much more. Pg i guess what he couldn't call him killer in a company where he would have expected to ultimately go to the main roster and they would have had to rename them anyway so just renamed monies way in and scarlett. Bardo used to be not quite as serious so now she's super serious and i really like it. I gotta say and in the main event carlo. Rawley defeated adam cole in an unsanctioned match so that got a bit messy and a bit alley and a bit sloppy in a bit stinging and a bit out my i e i e i o anyway so i mean i normally play even though adam cold and win and i don't think he actually uses the theme anymore i would have not played the undisputed era theme but i don't think either one of them came up to that teams. I was expecting half expecting them both to the theme song era still in some way associated with the undisputed era. But they've oh seemed to come up the different songs. Not you know carlo. He's best theme song. But you know they can't all be shipping up to boston remember Dot com era slaving. Risley newsradio on his back since two thousand two. You're listening to wrestling with bamboo metro ring. Rust available lab potty all major podcast sources Added meaning Your opinion got this case. Our is were david Georgia jomo from right here in sunny saint. John's from land from their album half life with numbers and before that the dropkick murphys shipping up to boston from ring of honor. Music of honor accomplished united on youtube. So if you want to go do a search for music of water. I guess would probably come up with it anyway or just gonna fan boy. Mercury roni on youtube and search out that way. It's is a a number of years ago so you may take a while to find it just for scrolling down a meeting but if you do a search you'll probably find it a lot sooner. You're listening to wrestling. Fan bork. Your own during rust right here on poetic and via various podcast sharing sources so now stanford for the main event of wrestlemania weekend romania romania. Thirty seven eight. One or as i called at wrestlemania thirty seven a because i like be and anyway. Wb champion bobby. Lashley started to show with mvp in his corner. Defeating drew mcintyre by technical submission surprisingly without any technically. They weren't proud of the hurt business shenanigans with you know cedric alexander and shelton benjamin but yeah well they i guess sir just actually broke up a hood we were. It wasn't an angle where still broken. I don't understand what's going what what what what happened. Are we still out of the. Wow okay Want to get a beer. All right second-to-none. Natalia and tomato snuka won the tag team. Tormo match boy lasted limiting the rice. Wad live morgan and ruby riott to receive a tag team championship match on night. Two or wrestlemania. Thirty seven be as i so l. o. L. ing li like say good showcase of all the women in the match. I think in good wrestlemainia payday which is important thing for a lot of people's bottom lines and anyway. So cicero defeated. Seth rollins finally having a singles win on wrestlemainia and have pressing finally having a fine. I think finally having wrestlemainia match his he had a wrestlemainia before this tag team. Maybe but anyway. And he did it any wanted by swigging. Seth rollins again so sure phenomenal mose. Aj thousand elbows defeated raw tag team champions new day copa kingston and xavier woods for age as the first tag team championship with wwe. Making him a triple crown champion and almost as first title win in his first match. Not quite as impressive as the big show when he was a giant. Ww winning the w world heavily championship in his first match. But i guess you really can't live up to that one hell even big joe. Himself can't live up to that one so ann next up. Braun strowman defeat. Shane mcmahon in a steel cage match in well quite the violent exchange. I mean any wrestling matches supposed to be violent or at least look violent but this was that much more so actually ripped part of the side of the cage off at some point so i need to keep coming up with new things they can do to say. Hey we haven't done this before. Not stopping and thinking was a reason we haven't done that before. So now descending. Wrong with steve. With does anything wrong with the seal can decide ripped off it not descending right with either i guess but salabi race eight. Hannah's diablo's bad bunny and damien priest defeated the dirt sheet with the miz. John morrison just because it was a very good match for. I mean usually when they do a celebrity match. It's a tag team match. And their partner usually carries the team and the opponents usually carried to carry match little too. So i mean two of the three people in the match speak spanish and then there's the ms who may or may not speak spanish. I don't know for fact he doesn't so i mean you're the two guys probably just worked out two spots and amid said hey might earn something and it's like. Oh yeah we'll have you do this. Oh good enough. I'll be over here to corner stretching and tweeting and instagram. I don't know. I'll be here have been instagram with on as long as an instagram thong. And in the main event of night one bianca baylor defeated smackdown. women's champion. Sasha banks to win her first title really you never won. Any titles in acce- never wonder woman title and annex t to title in the main main roster which is very nice. They're good see all. These people have a nice well-deserved emotional outbursts as it were outpouring of genuine emotional state. You know as as one would in for a winning such a big match in such a big stage and -gratulations to Bianca baylor as time to watch your shine against the wall. Is they him. I'm way better than before is now needed. Signed against the pressure is building but no album. Never they hear me roar in down way better than before the needed. She posed needed against the wall. The building no never hit me was the way better than before the need. I'm they wow sweetie against the wall. The pressure's building but they hear me. Roar have been before sleep against the pressure's building but no album. They he. i'm way better than before. I'm the endorsed now. You paul the needed needed against the wall the building but never they him hebrew way better than before. I'm thinking now needed to be signed. Are you ready thinking. What's do you think that. I'd better give ready of amassed bring bleeding roughly news radio draw since two thousand two. You're listening to wrestling with van. Boomers rone's regressed available via ponta matic and all major podcast sources dance. Oh my jack and they know you might say yes. I big band. A and stuff still spending. How much astros active checking body. I say my she is is that to A violent fame's bliss tucson from there so title album and before that. Watch me shine for bianca. Bel you're listening to wrestling with fan boomer. Crony hearing Paramedic via various podcast resources. Now for this week's three weight in salt to tonight's murder capacity crowd on hand for this battle of the millennium so to wish you happy birthday to a one of my favorite female wrestlers. She's appeared in wbz's may young classic in two thousand seventeen eighteen. Hopefully it'll make a comeback for that on a side note as previously worked for national promotions. Such as ring of honor and independent promotions such as combat zone wrestling shimmer women's athletes and shine wrestling in shine. She has previously held both shine championship. Add shine tag team championships with lee. V8's in addition she has wrestled japan for raina joshi puree new show so performed an impact wrestling iterating name of jade where she is a one. Time knockouts champion doesn't sixteen. she was. This is one of bbc's one hundred women. I what is just a funny way of thinking about at any rate though. Happy birthday mia. Yim a didn't really close was took did three did took a front old. Uh-huh does burn the block. One of her may young classic theme songs before that number one for her time in exte- and certain things off another one of her million classic theme songs night owl all for me a. m wishing her happy birthday. I'm sure keith. Lee is wishing her happy birthday right. Now and the dot dot dot you are listening to rustling but fan boy. Mercury rony during rust on paramedic and via various podcast cheering services like i tunes and an iheartradio and whatever else you might have found this on. So here is the main event of the main event wrestlemania. Thirty seven ninety two or wrestlemainia. Thirty seven be whatever you wanna call it if you want to get the hashtags wrestlemania thirty seven eight and mercer media thirty-seven be trending by all means i use them in. I'm the only one using them. I thinks oh randy. Orton defeated the fiend. With alexa bliss and his corner until she wasn't in his corner anymore she was on top of that. Big jack-in-the-box thing. Which i don't know any so we'll see how that works. If she's gonna decide what. Randy orton or just happy with fiend anymore or what. She's gonna do saturno as long as it doesn't mean less alexa bliss than happy with it. Anything that results in more alexa bliss can't possibly be a bad thing. Possibly baby thing the first bad thing to came from bliss. Wb women's tag team champions fighting from underneath ny jackson shayna baszler defeated second to none natalia. And to me to snooka by technical submission after you know. Shane obeys ler booted. Natalia interface and busted open her lip. So yeah i keep up o blood and pain and yeah present when watching okay. I'm just going to go backstage. Kevin owners if he descend. Me's ane with logan paul. Now if it had said owns beat semi zane was loaded. Paul i would have been very happy. I would've said oh it's really too bad. That's not how it happened. Kevin owens picks up logan paul and beat semyon with them kabiri. A youtuber was. Oh i'm famous. Don't do this to be. Don't you know who my dad is or something along. Those lines shameless defeated ross. United states matt riddle. I don't even know who is dead. Is just going back to that quickly. Les paul. i don't know sheamus defeated roy. United's as champion matt riddle in a not surprisingly hard fought and hard hitting match as which chambers being a hard pitting muslims so I don't know it's punishment for anything or just. They just wanted to have a new champion. that happens in wrestling. Somebody does something that the promotion does want them to do so they punish them. Apollo crews defeated smackdown kennel champion. Big e a night nigerian drum fight which apparently description of it was that it wasn't an actual drum. It was. you're gonna be beaten so hard. It's going to sound like a drum. You're going to beat your opponent so hard. Sounds like a drum specifically nigerian drum apparently so because apollo crews now nigerian. I don't know if he act. I have to assume that didn't randomly say you know. I got this email from a nigerian prince. I think make a great wrestling gimmick. No probably wouldn't but any rate dow rhea ripley defeated raw women's champion oscar. So yes lot of title changed like three title changes in a row and really the only title changes that night because the only champion who needed storyline was. I think who needed to defend his title. Who needed to still be champion. I think when he walked out of wrestlemainia smackdown universal champion roman reigns with j. Lo and paul heyman in his corner defeated. Wb hall of famer edge and daniel ryan israel threat match so. I'm not saying like charlie shortly like in out of character. He's back saying i'm gonna win or also gonna do whatever threaten zoo. I mean character wise. His character needed to still be champion. More so than the other champions needs to be champion at the end of the night. Just seems like where they're going with. Roman reigns is like. I need to be champion. I need to be this thing. I need to be on top. I need to be the person you need to talk to. So i need to be the champion. Need to look up to damp the head of the table as he says so interesting to see how the go this how far they go with it. How far he's going to go with champagne if he's gonna and also pointed out if you look at the three competitors in that match. Roman reigns had leukemia. Edge had broken neck and daniel bryan had a major concussion so they all came back from what would be considered not only career ending. But you know potentially life threatening conditions though. That was quite the i mean. That's another reason. I guess not so character wise. Maybe or maybe a little bit deeper into his character knowing. He had leukemia and he fought back from leukemia. He's now the best at being what he is now. He's going to be the best and he doesn't care whether or not you want him to be the best he's going to be the best and there's no one can take it away from him because he defeated leukemia anyway. So who knows. That's what they're doing and at any rate whatever they come out with it. I'm sure the truth rains Consider making the donation three dot com slash wife of to come crumbling a mile in the cloud down in with you and town out of again. Glad you're with a odd. I g good and blur Mackenzie blues man from her album. Slam bam great wrestling name right there with burned when you play with fire before that the truth rains for smackdown universal champion roman reigns so i think i got a few minutes left to quickly run down to preview rebellion from skyway studios in nashville tennessee with the predicted attendance of zero because of course of the pandemic so we got five matches all just quickly run down former edge heads mac cardona taken on. Brian myers in a not necessarily for anything in particular. I don't think match just a singles match and we have ace. Austin with madman fulton his quarter defending against josh alexander and j. p. the through metro exhibition championship. We have doubt roseau defending harrer. Nocco ship against the to dash would would kale with a in her corner. We got thin. Juice david thinly and jews robinson coming back from japan with the impact team championships defend against the good brothers. The former champions doc gallows and caroline and those particular stipulations yet. The only had the five matches soda. Main event is mentioned earlier rich. Swann defending his impact world heavily championship. Kenny omega the e w world heavyweight champion with don carlos and his corner in a title for title match. And i guess whoever wins will be the champion of all of all the shows. I guess there could be only one. Maybe so yeah looks like it's going to be a good show mean. Usually impact does put off a pretty good show. Yeah people straight away from before they've come into it they said this is okay and a stray away from it or to stick with it or whatever so we'll see on april twenty fifth comes of all this and the ad any more matches. I mean the only like. I said the only advertised who matches for hardcore justice named it up having nine shorter relied one or two more at least so. Here's hoping anything that we can be d- allowed but we can say south pole. We mom committee say and could we could Could but we can say with you. South but also talking was the like me on facebook tiny dot com slash ray. Rust follow me on twitter at march. Averni answer scribes who. Jubran ali g. tv youtube dot com slash fan boy merchant roni awesome play live long sensor as waiting him from the album. Cover story fifty lion bain steal fifty newfoundland classics. That's draze i. 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Elliott kathy lewis in on stage. Show where they were the lead players in kind of an anthology series. It was originally broadcast sixty eight years ago. February fifth nine thousand nine hundred ninety three by the way elliott lewis did direct this show as well was entitled a corner of autumn. And we thank you for joining us on this. Tgi friday edition of classic radio theatre fifth day of february thirty six day of twenty twenty one. Three hundred twenty nine days until we're out of this year south carolina became the first state to ratify the articles of confederation on this date in seventeen seventy eight happy birthday phoenix arizona. You were incorporated on this date in one thousand. Nine thousand one. Congress passed a law over president. Wilson's veto on this date. In one thousand nine hundred seventeen banning most asian immigration to the us. Charlie chaplin mary pickford douglas fairbanks twa gripping launched united artists on this date back in nineteen nineteen dewitt and lila wallace published. The first issue of reader's digest in nineteen twenty two in one thousand nine thirty six. Charlie chaplin released the last movie of the silent bill mira times president roosevelt proposed a plan on this date in one thousand nine hundred. Eighty seven to enlarge supreme court of the united states. That didn't happen and it probably still won't happen general. Douglas macarthur returned to manila as he promised on this date in one thousand nine five a hydrogen bomb known as the tiny bomb lost by the air force off the coast of savannah georgia on this date in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight. It was never recovered. Alan shepard and edgar mitchell aboard the lunar module and terry's landed on the moon on this date in one thousand nine hundred seventy one f effort. Oh man pay right allergy and it's all right we're here. Apollo fourteen was the third mission to land on the moon and the first to land in the lunar highlands. John murtha became the first vietnam veteran elected to congress to begin his service on this date in one thousand nine hundred seventy four in nineteen. Eighty-eight manuel noriega indicted on drug smuggling and money laundering charges. In one thousand nine hundred. Four byron beckwith convicted of the nineteen sixty three murder of civil rights leader. Medgar evers in nineteen ninety-seven a civil jury in santa monica california found. Oj simpson liable for the wrongful death of ronald goldman battery against ronald goldman and battery against nicole brown. She's holding up the sign for question number one do you find by a preponderance of the evidence yes. Oj is responsible for the death of of ron goldman. The question number one is do you find by a preponderance of the evidence. The defendant simpson willfully wrongfully caused. The death of ronald goldman. The answer is yes. The jury has found. Oj simpson responsible for killing ronald goldman. June twelfth nineteen ninety-four. Our family is grateful. More verdict of responsibility. Which is all we ever wanted. And we have god. The father of ronald goldman. Fred goldman now simpson was ordered to pay thirty three and a half million dollars in damages however california law protects pensions from being used to satisfy judgments so simpson able to continue much of his lifestyle. Based on these nfl pension in two thousand and three colin powell addressed the un security council on iraq clearly saddam hussein and his regime. Stop at nothing until something stops him in two thousand eight. A major tornado outbreak across the southern united states killed fifty seven and it was a year ago today that president trump acquitted by the senate in his impeachment trial among those passing away on this date. In history actor dean jagger writer producer director. Joseph l mankiewicz actor. Doug mcclure of tom willis from the jeffersons franklin cover the founder of transcendental meditation. The ma the maharishi mahesh yogi said that on one go. Okay i stumbled a little. Wouldn't you also passing away on this date aldo. Laurie probably best known for his adaptation of the theme for mash. Suicide is painless and passing away a year ago. Today kirk douglas. This is the birthdate of a politician. Presidential candidate and bastard to the united nations adly stevenson. An actor red buttons. This is also the birthdate of hank aaron. Who passed away just not long ago less than two weeks ago or is it just two weeks ago. Yeah just two weeks ago. At the age of eighty six a video game producer and the guy behind the atari nolan. Bushnell is seventy eight race car driver. Darrell waltrip boogie boogie boogie. Let's go racing seventy four years of age actor. Christopher guest seventy-three as as actress. Barbara hershey actress jennifer. Jason leigh fifty nine from love. 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Came about as radio was in a time of transition due to the popularity of television elliott lewis and actor director writer producer wanted to do an anthology series with his wife. Catherine elliott was starring in the phil harris. Alice faye show at the time and also directing suspense will cathy. Lewis performed on many programs will starring at that time as jane stacy on my friend. Irma elliott served as director producer and actor of onstage. He also edited the episodes and wrote the opening and closings. It sounds to me. Like eliot lewis was a workaholic as we would call it today. And i will tell you this. I've listened to some of today's show in advance of doing it The show aired by the way From january first of nineteen fifty three to september thirtieth of nineteen fifty four. So we're catching a show. Oh gosh they only been going five weeks at this point in time but the show was quite delightful. And i think it's something that you really just have to dig into. It's a really delightful show show written by morton. Fine and david freakin with clayton post. Paula winslow junius matthews and byron cain performing in this particular code of the program. All right. let's hear this and by the way this was also the audition episode for this series. So you hear. Kind of hearing. What sold it to the network. Of course. it's time the network giving away. Elliott lewis was working. You know anyway here. We go onstage february fifth nineteen fifty-three a quarter of them and elliott lewis on stage elliott lewis of the most distinguished names in radio airing each week in their own theatre starring in a repertory transcribed stories of their own and your choosing radio is foremost players and radios foremost plays drama comedy adventure and mystery melodrama ladies and gentlemen mr elliot good evening. May i present my wife kathy. Good evening tonight. We're going to do a story about two lonely and lost people discovered in each other the meaning of existence. It's sad and a wonderful way. We think one of the most beautiful stories. We've done tonight. We present a new play by morton. Fine and david treat can call a corner of autumn. My name and the players harry miller and i'm joyce to silva and where two people in a very large city small part of a very large city opening scene a bar a very cheap bar and very tired laughter from tire jokes hold observation a bartender and customers customers not so much but neither is the wine and the entertainer is not so much either. Listen and that's the setting and here's the action. A man harry miller walking through the at doing mostly out piano. I look i show me where pointed to right there. Hey appointed good. I'd say he's been off the booze for how long coupla days a week job make it easier. I'm down ten bucks. You guys kill me. You know what i always say. I always say don't do that. Go ahead play. Play for us it. Actually you starve. Just keep going you. You'll find your penis is right on own. Maybe next time when we're rehearse move your foot coin water. Thank you very much. Mr harry you see anything more than almost got the more dollars. Twenty eight by all rights. Half of it's yours mr miller. I should be glad to about mr work. Fifteen bucks and food on clothes back on the booze and you choose your door back up front. Don't make any difference right. My name's harry miller. Yeah tonight practice. the week starts tomorrow. Remember i told you about the booth. All right yeah gimme some change. I want to play that. Jukebox gave me a job working together. It's very nice. I've been looking for an accompanist. Wendy's sing again. That was my last number for the night. I'm very hungry. I was just going across the street. Join that's a lovely idea. She had a mirror code. And i held it for a while. She put it on then. She put her hand on my arm and we walked out of there but the restaurant was closed and that was a shame she said because it was such a nice place an an team feel he would have enjoyed it. Missed miller i suggest something. Chestnuts and park just happened to be a chestnut vendor at the end of the block. We ought to backs but the in our pockets and there we walk to the park. It was chilly and all benches were empty but she was special. That one right under eucalyptus. Can you hear the fountain over there behind the shrubs. Does it remind you of music. That's what reminds me of. How can our chestnuts. Leaving told me my name is joyce silver. that's my stage name of course for the entertainment crowd. My real name is joy schakowsky an acquaintance of mine and the profession advised me to change it. You're a professional to. Aren't you room for twenty years. I should have known that where you play. of course. of course. Of course you know why i was singing in that place. Were experience that too. But mostly it's because i feel that performer must get to know every type of audience. Do you agree code. No no word. Now tell me about yourself. John for a long time. It's surely pio that's all you're very good very good. Mr silva is this. All you do see mr miller. You're i'd like to tell you about that before. I gave everything up to embark on a singing career. I must confess that. I worked as an executive secretary in order to save money and i had enough. I merely quit. In spite of the president of the company's protests sure career. I feel that in another month. Or so i shall be ready for booking agent. Would you mind if i you. You're the first man. I let bring me to this bench. You may put your me. We sat there for maybe an hour. My arm around her and talk. I walked her home. She lived in a small frame house that had a vacancy sign in the window. An iron gate a front and a wonderful evening truly. I wonder if you enjoyed it as much as i'd is. Your i did miss similar call. Joyce sure. And your hairy me. Good night wasn't far from skid row where she lived a couple of blocks down three blocks over and the sign. Was there fifty cents a night. And that's where i slept in the morning. I look for a room in the morning. I wanted a drink bad. But i looked for a room and i got lucky. A in cheap hotel. They used to start a piano and they put a cut in it. They took half the ten dollars. I still had left from the job in the town before this one and it was my room and my home much as it could be during the day but in kid myself. The bottle was migrate and true friends. So i bought a quart. Set it on the piano cart. So i learned i hate him. I didn't go out during the day. And when i did when it was night. Iran the bar and work three nights and after each one of them chestnuts in the park on the back under the tree and founded harry. It's almost like isn't it. isn't it. sure joyce joycean harry. Their romance with a twist on monday night. No park bench. No chestnuts monday night. Bar closed so no works. Have a romance sharing your table with two strangers to each your blue plate specials in the cafeteria a dusty doll one a dusty carnival and cost you a week's room right because she's always loved dolls since she was a little girl and the dance hall where everything is played too fast and the late movie a double feature a travelogue about africa romance. We had a harry. Wasn't it such a always real tune. I'm so happy happy. I could go on and you who Harry would charming place. But did you say that this is a fleabag and it stinks doing. It's what happened to wednesday night there as soon as you finish it for crowd jury off. You didn't wait for me. Something wrong gear. Look joyce who are we kidding whiskey on your pants my whiskey and scotch. I asked you something joy. So we kidding. 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Brought consolidation of control agencies ordered yesterday by the eisenhower administration and executive order place to functions of the defense production administration under the opposite defense mobilization the director of also ordered to take over as acting director of the economic stabilization agency and the national security resources board a series of sweeping orders to decontrol the bulk and consumer goods. Prices also reported these orders. Expected to start this week. China's premier toan lila's night urged a ceasefire in korea and resumption of to stocks on rushes shop worn turns. He warned the us monks. We are thoroughly prepared to fight the war out to the last. Us secretary state. John posture dulles giving the big western european powers. Seventy five days to show real progress in setting up a unified defense or risk cuts in america's military and economic aid for by plea from senator cap the republican of ohio. The senate committee on governmental operations voted unanimously. Yesterday to get president is now with the same power president. Truman had to overhaul federal agencies. The issue now goes to the senate floor for final action possibly on friday. Britain's kids greeted the wonderful news with mouths. dueling candy rationing ended midnight. The kids will mind today at their neighborhood. Shops of the first in rationed confectionery in three and a half years. They find those jelly beans more expensive. Though because the ministry of food also lifted candy price controls with yesterday's de rationing order. Though some of the day's top news stories is reported in the newspapers of thursday february fifth. Nineteen fifty-three on your radio on stage which continues now on classic radio theater. A couple of middle aged slobs would've tell you something else. Mostly you jewish. You're the biggest. Liar i ever met. Have you been drinking. i've been drinking. I think he was the most beautiful woman in the world. I all women are beautiful. When i'm loaded i'm sober so you're skinny your skin and your plane. No woman with an ounce of respect for listening to like that. I'm going to stay here. Listen what are you trying for a career. I know a cap animal act could sing better than you. You're trying for a romance. Who do you think i am. Joyce a prince out of a fairytale something on a white horse. I'm a forty year old rump. And i'm tired and kills me to look at you and women like you. All i've got look at you and say to myself. This is what my life amounted to. That's a gun your like. Here's to romance. Joyce here's hey no man's going to drink like that in my presence. No man's going to insult me like that comes and wants to know. Threw that bottle through the window. You may give him my name and address. I'm ashamed i'm ashamed. I'm ashamed i you. You are listening to cathy. And elliott lewis onstage. Tonight's play a corner of autumn baby. 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Sometimes we take our freedoms granted but we can lose our bill of rights and our constitution and become like venezuela or north korea failed brutal socialist regimes. We need your help to spread the good news about our amazing. Us constitution help us take back. America go to our american rights dot com. Brought to you by the american media council saturday on classic abo theater jeff chandler in frontier town from sixty eight years ago february six thousand nine hundred fifty three trouble environment valley but now the conclusion of onstage a corner of autumn from february fifth nineteen fifty. Three She left the room again of channel in the room and made that was all it was the world the world i knew real good and kano nothing time to stand up and go through a door outer street. Give the man a couple of dollars take the bottle. Find a place that nobody knew. Uncork the bottle and the great and true friend. Jean lived inside. Let him take over and warm and explode the world for you and make you king for it in the wanting for the hungry the scream inside for a skinny woman walked out of my room and suddenly. That was the reason for that. You heard me. He doesn't j technically okay. I'm on lock my mahan Easy does it mean the good. As but shoop don openess store lamar here even try to break it down with up arenas disjointed role with them. You know that. Why the would if we're lucky it. I just don't let me out. I saw lock Welcome to damara feeling today for the way you did real going way at offi sandwich on me because you did real good turn your feet apart. I don't mind at all you did so nice. Get up. look out the window as its day. right I'd like to talk ladies not in but and i'm sure she won't mind it's very important. It's important talked about us but you and me. I'm sorry for what i said yesterday if i caused you any unhappiness or embarrassment. I'm deeply sorry choice. Coffee you move. Did you get drawn though. Let's joyce what's i was married and there were. There was a little girl somewhere in there. I started to drink. It must have been a reason. Dear maybe listen to life. Started the drink and i liked it and became a drunk and it all drifted away from his wife family in job. That was a long time ago. And now i'm here. You know why. I'm here at joyce. Hey you were right yesterday. I mustn't lie to you anymore. Looks now no. I'm all the things you said. I can't sing. And i'm getting old and not pretty tired so lonesome and you were kind to me and i tried to make it all the young dream i need you. Maybe this is the way two of us would play it straight and we try to bucket together and not expect too much because neither of us are anything much except to each other. Look look at the doll. We weren't the carnival. You still got them when we were buying to each other. Just something to put in the corner and smile because get you some dinner. Dear Only i like november best harry. I know why because we loved each other a month. What are we come here. Don't benign me this place. dear. I'm so fond of chestnuts. And lift his tree out hairy. Was your wife pretty tough to remember joyce for the last few days. You've been asking me questions like that. Cut it out. I'm tired him. No dear i wanna know all about you people. You used to love rushie prettier than me. No was pretty raw. What happened to her. How did you meet her. Dear sing with the band aid for just a coincidence that you should fall deeply in love two singers harry more. Did your children look like her doesn't make you wonder who are children. Look like you were me. Our children calling school have two boys and a girl to use used to have some joyce all. That's a long time ago. legal on. Forget it how you forget. It happened to her. She divorced me dear and she got married again. I told you that. I told you that one hundred times did you never know he much as you love me. I loved her very much. I had a family. Where but i was a drunk and she left me to shut up. Shut up you'll see. Harry you'll never wanna leave. Didn't leave her. She left me happy. You know what. I can't stand the sight of you getting upset about nothing at all. Your what you are. And i'm out of my mind. I think you can be anything else. I'm what i am. Harry and you helped me see what i am or my mind. I'm closer to the g. is looking for a reason to get ron carey. I'm not gonna give you one. I love you. I wanna be the reason why you won't ever get drunk. Good night to you lady bottle. I about bottle. Great true friend waiting for me jeanie la drink the blues. That sketchy where joyce joyce stats. He'll i'm paying your pain. Get the scott. Harry drink with baby larry twenty. Fps whole buxom for me. Three hours to collect them on of cost sixty cents. Yeah i've been waiting for you. The chill joyce here there. Lie down harry. You hear joyce swear husky cost went to do to make you feel better. I'll do it. I'll tell you what do i mean it guy way joy seat i ball and you're in my way your always be in my way die. Just burn who died joyce your believing. Sorry so sorry. I need you. Nothing without you know are to us the way. It has to be the way. I wanted to be need you. I need you. There will be no more long mysterious here Owner nice sound great. Thanks need playing great joy ready. I'd snap good night. Kids really did sound one getting better all the time. Wanna go right home. What are we by. A couple of bags of chestnuts parks. Nicest time night. Benching eucalyptus tree in the fountain. Fountain always reminds me of music. Is it reminds you of using music. Joyce a corner of autumn starring. Cathy and elliott lewis. Mr and mrs lewis. We'll tell you about next week's play in just a moment. Is the army nurse corps in korea. By of course wherever american fighting men go the army nurse corps brings medical and surgical care to the sick and wounded. This fine organization has openings for at least a thousand u. nurses this week as the army nurse car celebrates its fifty third birthday. The car extended invitation to all registered nurses to join the ranks for full information. Right the surgeon general. Us army washington twenty-five dc. That's the surgeon. General us army washington twenty-five dc and now once again cafe and elliott lewis Thanks tonight to. Paula winslow and junius matthews patrons of the bar that was run by her butterfield. Clayton post clerk at the rooming house. And of course to morton fine. David freakin for the lovely story. Next week well. Have you ever given a party where everything almost goes wrong. Especially a single woman giving a party for bose and married friends so next week jack. Newman's party thank you for listening and good night. good night. music tonight. Story was composed by alexander. Courage pianist was frank lightner and the orchestra conducted by gluskin cathy and elliott theme by novel cafe and elliott lewis onstage as plants thrived and directed by mr lewis. George wolf speaking you ever forget the grateful. Look of the kid at the carnival when you found his frantic mother for him. It was worth a little extra time. That's the way travelers aid volunteer appeals. Who gives a little time each week. I'll ping the stream of travelers in trouble. Who stop at the travelers aid air rail and bus terminals make helping people a weekly ritual in your life. It was always happy but it was a delight. beloved story wasn't it elliott and kathy lewis onstage from sixty eight years ago february fifth nine thousand nine hundred fifty three on classic radio theater. Let me know what you thought about onstage. Either through our web page. Classic radio dot stream or through. Our facebook feeds or anywhere. 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Forty such unclassified blackie or a creature of habit. We have eaten in this restaurant every tuesday for weeks you know married. I pay the check through eating like now. Let's go i'm ready. I'm going to take you straight home. If you wanna be them. Cousin arrive wait. Hope said as a cab outside. Run out and see if it's vacant one. I'll pay cheque right with him. Blackie is up. good your check ser. Oh here's your money on. The meal is on. The house is to begin. thanks. But i'm not. Mr peterson. ha ha. But i know better. We have proud to have your patronage begins. I'm not mr vedic. And i'm boston blackie and i'm giving you your money hand. I'm returning it to you with. Please visit compliments of the house. Look i tell you. I am to tear up the check now. You can't pay check. That does not all right but believe me. There's been some mistake. Oh no mistake i show. You will never be a check. His feet again now back to commerce boston blackie enemy to those who make enemy friend to those who have no friends black. You won't forget to get that watch. My cousin will you. Don't worry. marry the jewelry stores up until nine tonight. You'll have it saving while we still on the window I think she'll like it. Don't you Well if you see one you think she like better get it about watches and do eleven day lavagna miss and we are all the flag driver. I'm going on right Don't bother team door blackie. Are i okoye you later now. You won't forget get that watch. Would mary i promise i'll have a messenger delivered. Thank god one. Nine one sunset parkway drive and step on it. You don't have to tell me what you call me. Mr pagans again. Now wait a minute. This gonna cost you anything. You're wrong now. Look here for the idaho so smoked judge not the famous mr vegan. The thing i'd like to see a watch plays like the when you have in the window them. I think you mean this one. Don't you say yes. That's it a lovely much ninety dollars. But naturally naturally there'd be no charge for you. Mr peter kim. Now wait a minute. My name is boston blackie. You're very modestly competing again. But i happen to know who you are. And i'm proud to give you this watch i tell you i am not repeat again. I'm always mr peterson. I meant no fant look. This is the third time in the last hour that someone is calling me. Mr peterson. i am not mr beat again and i am not accepting the watch without paying for it. Yeah his ninety dollars. I couldn't take the money from mr peter king of you can't take it from us but you can take it from me and take it from me. You're taking that ninety dollars and do me a favor with you. Believe my name is boston. Blackie the understand. Of course i understand your name. Is boston blackie. Mr peterson mary. The watch is beautiful. You shouldn't have done it. You really like it too like it. It's it's the most beautiful watch i've ever seen that. She certainly spent a lot of money on just an ordinary cousins. I haven't spent yet. Blackie got and paid him for it and beside you are not just an ordinary cut. Oh it's lovely mary. Oh told blackie not to have it in grave for you Until after you've seen is headed. And i'll be honest with truly. Is it really the kind of watch you like. Wouldn't like a watch like this. All right then you can have it engraved this evening. Said he got it brand. That's not far from here. We can run right over. I'd like to marry but my train leaves at midnight. And there's some things i have to do downtown before train time i see. I'll have it engraved when i get back all right. I guess wait a minute. I can take it over brandon's for you. I can have it engraved incentive till you or mary would you take it over the doodles for me. That'd be wonderful sure. Let's see it so eight o'clock now. I can take the watched. Brandon's right away call for tomorrow and send it to you. Then you're sure it won't be too much trouble trouble. This truly promises to be the least troublesome night of my life. knock on wood blackie. please please. oh black you please please. Oh blackie this. Is mary alice about the watch. Come down to brandon jewelry store and right away. Plenty mr brennan. Whole blackie mr brandon. Bed mood what do i do now. I never found a body before like a front doorknob. Be twenty minutes opened up mary. Viking coming all right. I don't know i think i've aged sure. Twenty minutes was money over there behind the kata. You want me to turn on a light shade. But when the street lampl lighten up. Yeah i can see the body. Now mr brennan. He waited on the a little over an hour ago. Would you to watch funny thing to. He insisted that my name was pita can take money for the watch. Joe i think he was. I wonder if it was some gag of is and the next customer. He put it on and like it. What are you talking about. I wish i knew these opening the front door policemen. I'll do the talking mary. Good evening officer. We were just about to send for one of your. Gang are a few minutes ago. Central me forgot to throw the alarm switch and we got a signal that i headquarters the matter down here. Do you know the owner of the store sam brandon. Would you know if you saw him. Dead dead tony. Flashlight over there. At the between the two candidates i this. I don't see that san brandon sure is elmo either of you both taking a little ride police headquarters. Dick calmer boston blackie from february fifth. One thousand nine hundred forty-six on classic radio theater. Here's some great news if you missed the deadline to sign up for health insurance or more importantly if you sign up for a plan that you're just not happy with you still have a choice. It's called medishare and medishare's a christian healthcare sharing program. It's been around for twenty five years. 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From february fifth nineteen forty six. The brandon jewel robbery on classic radio theater. You'll hear at police headquarters so much. You remain a sergeant soon. I'm not surprised to find you. Miss wesleyan some new inspector faraday. You don't think we kill mr brandon. Do of course he does marry doesn't he. I certainly don't think you killed him. Faraday he and disappointed in. You miss wesley. Don't either of you know better than get mixed up in these things. The body i didn't know what to do. You should call the police right away. I told him not to faraday. I wanted to have a look at the body before anything's moved. Oh you did will take your body out of here. And i know this case cheated but i with infect dot in come on just a minute mary just a minute. Are you sure you're all right. I've never felt better in my life and you've never been cleared murder any faster in your life. What i declare myself but wait here in your office. Why you waited. I found out when brandon was killed. What kind of a gun killed him and where you were at the time of the murder. You're clear so clear out of here. Both faraday. I want to congratulate you but once you proved your the good cop i always thought you outta here inspector faraday. Yeah what do you want. I'm robert winston. A belvedere insurance company claim agent. Your opposite you're on the way down in connection with the murder of san brandon. How i'm going to have to ask you a little help. Inspect them rounder. everything. I can and a stand. The police found two people with brandon's body. Yeah as a matter of fact these those people know boston. Blackie miss mary whistling. how do these people are under arrest. Of course now. they're not miss. Wesley did was walk in the store and find a buddy blanket did was come down and wake with her until the police arrived. Hold him can i. I don't have grounds. My company will give you grounds inspector. I tell part of this investigation is complete. I demand that you hold these. Two people on suspicion of murder now back to boston blackie. This has been a strange evening for boston. Blackie three times by three different people. He's been called. mr peterson. This is nothing compared to what happened shortly. After when mary walks into brandon's jewelry store with watch blackie had bought. They're an hour earlier. She finds the honor debt. When blackie john's are in the store to start an investigation they're both found there by the police. And though inspect the pharisees reason to hold mary. Or blackie brandon's matter and insurance agent demands immediate arrest as we return to our storied robert winston. The insurance agent calls on diamond dealer. You missed the bill jackson. Yes i am bill jackson. You wish to see me yes. So what'd you get the yankee name your slightly foreign aren't you slightly. But my name. It was so hard to pronounce so difficult for your americans despair lie. I decided to take one of your names. I'm bill jackson. When i'm robert winston. Mr jackson claim agent for the belvedere insurance company. I am ensured. Thank you oh you don't understand. I'm not selling insurance. I'm investigating and insurance claim. You must be the wrong establishment. Said i have made no claim now of course not but maybe you're reading the papers about the death of sam brandon Yes it was such a shame thing. The paper said it was murder. Is that so s. I'm afraid it was. Did you deliver any other pieces of jewelry. Here on my list of brandon The pc how many of those pieces did you deliver. Mr jackson high. What all of them. I was afraid of that. Afraid how do you mean sir. Ryan insured them against the with us and they're all missing one hundred thousand dollars. Good heavens mr winston. I give those jewish brandon on consignment might lose all that money no no of course not. My company will pay every cent brand. But i'm not paid will be ruined. Don't worry mr jackson. You'll get paid. But i i'm going to see inspector faraday and get them to charge boston black mary. Wesley with murder and robbery look inspector faraday his elicited a stuff. That's missing from brandon store. Look at the size of it is say. The size of it winston. Why did you let black in a wesley girl go. Because i know they didn't rob around and store or kill brandon look. Did you do your job at least up to the point of searching blankie in a wesley woman before you let them go sure but that was just routine. You have a list of what you found on right here on my desk. All ahead on. What their own personal possession. Let me see. Liz help yourself. He had a pocket knife coins. Various booze and but the usual stuff. You always find it. A man's pocket now will be having. Let's see list of miss wesley things here. One listed is latter women. Carry all that junk it. A silver chrome silva wristwatch lipstick. Various bills small coins gold ajax wristwatch. Well so what solely on his list of items taken from bryant at staw one gold ajax wristwatch. Did you see that goal wristwatch yourself. Yeah didn't describe it well. It was ajax square. Case convicts crystal. The face of the dial was yellow and the band was a black cord with a gold clip. Look at the description on his listed ajax watchmaker brandon store square. Case convicts crystal. Dial yellow numerals roman black card with gold cliff. What does that sound like you inspector watch. I found him as wesley's and watch was stolen from brandon store. That's all i need inspector. I want you to rest. Mary wesley winston. Maybe i've got don't believe in your office. Just give me one of your minutes back. They're i'll bring this wesleyan myself. A low blackie mary. Nothing particularly. I was just reading in the paper about the brand and murder. I see they still don't know why he was killed. Some stolen articles trays. The male mind brands killers. I'm concerned with that pita angle. I can't figure out who changed my name. Why like somebody. Fedora call you back expecting. No not party's been much too quiet to leave either one of his completely alone. After we've been found the body so leave the phone off the hook your call may be inspecting judge after minute. Oh i get it if it's the inspector or someone else from the police department alistair them over the telephone so you can hear her. Write a come in. Ras wesley all mr winston. How's the insurance business lines leslie. Why dill you'll always bring a policeman when you make your calls. No only in cases like this wesley that goal wristwatch. Add in your bag all that. It was bought at brandon by boston. Blackie i had it in my of orion. I got it. Miss wesley. liotta's somebody else's watches stolen property. Get your head coach. You're under arrest now. Just missed winston. Like are you still there. What do now go to headquarters with winston. You won't be there long somehow. Feel missed pita. Ken is mixed up in this. And i'm going to find out how before. I get mixed up entirely closing my favorite restaurant rather early tonight on. Oh you yes remember. What's the idea of the gun. Was the idea of calling me mr peterson. That's your name isn't it. You know very well. It doesn't put a confused with somebody else. Have to go home now. I'll take you home in his cab. Yeah convenience isn't i've had it waiting here just as it was winning here last night. When you call me mr peterson. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay cabbie already you. I my friend course. Why don't you mean where to mr peterson. Show wet toe drive to the town and then keep on going to be some fad. I get extra for outside the city limits. remember. I'm mr peterson. I don't pay for anything on now. Look both the. We're gonna play a little game. What kind of a game. A game called pekan. Your name is not peterson and peterson. Oh it doesn't and i'll tell you a funny little story. Only one other person this world. Call me mr peterson. And he know where he is now. No in that. He doesn't work there alright. We made a mistake. We thought your speech can who told you to think that nobody say nobody to me. Once more my friend and you'll be a body or have you forgotten this gun in my hand. Look if we tell you what shut up you shut up you go ahead driver. I don't know anything except that was job. Well make me laugh. Maybe i'll let you live so you drive is telling the truth. It was just a joke. Who told you to call me brandon the jeweler. But we didn't know who brandon was until we saw his picture in the paper today. Gave us on your feet again. He was a gag semi was on him. Take me to police headquarters scammy. You want to say you know. I'm not telling you in. But i think i'm on the verge of turning a killer up faraday speaking now. What do you want a ten. I'm looking firm. When i can't find him. A fine question must wesleyan. She assist boston. Blackie gave it to watch. Are you kidding me black. I'm trying to try and again look winston when i find blackie can't be found no i know oh like yep looking everywhere for you have been everywhere faraday. Maybe that's why you didn't find me. Look winston made me put miss wesleyan jail and he wants you. I know that my hope you know mouse. I'm going to arrest you. I don't want. I'll go ahead and arrest me fired. I won't mind if you book me under. The name of peter king paid again. What are you talking about a little plot to make. It looked as if i rob brandon's jewelry star is a crazy story. Yeah brandon paid a restaurant cashier cabdriver to call me mr peterson and refuse to take money from me. Why so that. When i walked into a store and our later and called me. Mr peterson refused to take money for his watch. I'd walk out without sales slip. That's all he needed to make. It appear that the watch was stolen with was going to claim them. When you said that was a crazy story you will make an understatement. I can't believe a thing like that. He inspector party never believes anything. Boston blackie says. Why should that be different from usual. february fifth. One thousand nine hundred forty six. Dick calmer as boston. Blackie on classic radio theater. I'm wia cox email address. Classic radio theater at gmail.com would love to hear from you. Want you drop note during this break. It's your play time. The next song is for and the family to get up and play your way with your play yogurt daily routine time now or shop guilty yogurt. A store near you can find your favorite in play your way with yoga leg new york times bestselling author. Bob goff is back with a new book for kids ages. Six to ten everybody always for kids shares real life lessons that show how loving everybody always can change the world of all the terrific things we can be. 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If you cancel credit stop and balance and required finance agreement may do contact us. Qualifying credit consumer plan required see details t mobile dot com classic radio theater on your favorite station now. Please of boston. Blackie from february. Nineteen forty-six brandon made a restaurant. Cash and a cabdriver. To call me. Mr peterson and refuse to take money from me. Why so that. When i walked into a store and our later and he called me. Mr peterson refused to take money for his watch. I'd walk out without a sales slip. That's all he needed to make. It appear that the watch was stolen which he was going to claim late in When you said that was a story you will make an understatement. I can't believe a thing like that. He looked party of all the stuff stolen from brandon. What's turned up. Only the watch found his wesley. That backs up my story because all brand needed to establish the of the store had been robbed was to have the police find one missing article. He wanted to establish the fact that historic been rubbed like it sounds. As if brandon robbed his own place is he was in on the deal parody and the merchandise posing the stolen is just hidden somewhere. Do you have a complete list of the missing shots at him. Look at length Some all but blackie brandon. While his own store why was he gentle. Ocalam him his accomplice. Probably the motive to keep him splitting with brandon. Say according to this list. Everything stolen from brandon was delivered by the same wholesale julen. Bill jackson and until but brandon was insured and jackson is going to get his money. Just the same doesn't seem rather odd to you with. The exception of the watch brandon was robbed of only the jewels he'd bought from jackson say that is funny isn't it. It's funny enough to make jackson laugh himself sick. Supposed jackson never delivered these diamonds and brandon then reported them. Stolen jackson still has his diamonds. Plus a cut of brandon's insurance money. Then jackson was randoms accomplice. Maybe unless winston was winston you mean he was infra split of the insurance path. Winstons men trying awfully hard to prove that. Marion ira brandon. Store all needs as proof of robbery to get his company to pay the claim. You see what you can get out. Find out about him. I'm gonna call on jackson in. Tell me anything about him. I sure am. He talks with an accent. One thing marquan. I just talked to him on the phone. It's hard to tell the central european maybe like this inspect the fodder they. I am able to blackburn. It is good to see the police working for justice. Well that's pretty close. But what's the idea if you want to talk to. A guy is something smart to talk his language Mr blackburn to talk to someone from the old country you will do business with someone from the old country miss jackson of course. Of course i. I am embarrassed. The upn jewelries highs. You know i intend to laura get declared it. Yes forget. I think we can do business mr blackbourne. How much do you want to spend. I can put my hands and fifty thousand dollars. I can let you have twice that. The mountain jewelry mr blackburn. I am afraid. I do not have that much money just at me. Show you what i have in my safe it. I will open it. I ne- jackson. Never have i seen students is and everything in my safest for sale and at the special price or why is special price. I do not ask you questions. You'll do not ask me questions. The you mind. If i use your phone bill not to have this much money on me. I don't have to send for it. We is go ahead. You will see like for fifty thousand dollars worth of the jewelry from your sake. Let you feed demand of the business with mr jackson. I can see that this is blackburn. I yes i have found the jules i want. You will bring the fifty thousand dollars you. Mr jackson is everything my friend hurry. We'll be waiting for you. Cuche have seen jackson space. When they walked in mary. it was wonderful. How long did it take jackson to confess to brandon's murder in five minutes. Why did he kill him to keep him splitting the insurance money with him and he killed brandon. Just after you left to watch you bought for me. Well black. Was that planned when i left. Brennan staw without a sales slip for that watch. Jackson was in the back and brandon told him the planet worked and then all brandon had to do was to call the police and tell him his story had been robbed. That was the moment. jackson was waiting. Four i'm spike. You got away posing as mr black. When you talk to jackson. Or amy wonderful i e you certainly but how did brandon work that pete again axel beautiful well in the first place. He saw us looking at watch in the store window several times he was standing in the doorway. The time remember. I see now how you assurance sure. His plan would work. He then went to our restaurant and arranged for the cashier. And the taxi driver to call you. Mr peterson and all that and then after i came in and bought the watch intended to call the police and describe me as the person who robbed a store have the police. Pick me up and find me with watch. Yeah but things didn't quite work that way too. They know. jackson got greedy and didn't wanna cut brandon in on the tape so he killed him and that step set knee. Is you know for a while. I thought mr winston had something to do with all this. Didn't i got to leave now. Mary what he call me. When i call you what anything anything at all except a peterson date comas boston. Blackie february fifth nineteen forty-six on classic radio theatre balance of nature's fruits and vegetables in a capsule changing the world. One life at a time. I work in healthcare and i haven't gotten even a runny nose. I'm pretty convinced that this is something to do with it. And you know what i will never be without it. It's amazing i'm telling you it's amazing. 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I mean bettas all over the okay goodman volya landing. Why don't you to play. Nurse may drunk for a few minutes. He's always smokey joe's place and he's afraid. go home. once police has gone. I guess go right over Hello i'm joe. Best bank in a private room. I'll show you. The door's locks me and say this guy's dna if you ask me on open up got your cup happened to him. Maybe you up ten pm. With all right i wanna go own. Who's holding you not going home alone. I was scared you go wait a minute. What's your name favors. Jamie davis live one. Twenty seven wrexham. No no no you go home with me. You'll watch out for me won't you. All right is a. I got attack right outside city. They're open the door. Gio twenty seven record trophy you home. I'm going home myself. All right all right. Hello and mean you up. Yeah what's the big idea. Donut mean to be off duty. Not released was what was the name of that. Grandeur tacoma last night Oh there's no. Dave i thought so first name james. Yeah where did you take him to his home. Somewhere on wrexham. What time did you take in there. I don't know about one. It's on the report. I didn't stop the report. Older man was he young about twenty five or six right. What's up. I'll tell you. Watch up one. James davis age. Twenty five was killed shortly after one o'clock this morning. No that's the state dope. Andy a friend of his front of our eight thirty admission that calling me at home. I got by here on the way over they identified. The man is james davis and somehow connected him with the davis. You took home last night. From smokey joe's monkeys and the guy didn't just have a willis must have really had something to be afraid of it on your zandi. We're taking the run over to his apartment. Okay you're gonna pay god. I'll call headquarters for a car while you're dressing police headquarters. Don't take all day andy. Mike stewart finished cloud caught up at anderson's apartment. And hold everybody all that davis case till i get there. Uh yeah my mind back opened up here outside and kicked my back. Devlin come on and kept it all away. Second room here. All boys charge that all right kevin. There's just like i left him. I got that discipline out of his closet for this. Forty five is got his hand. You gave him that too. I know sir did get it no capital. He didn't have it when i left. It's essentially this desk. Was the grandson. This when you left knows the room real neat at water pitcher. It wasn't broken either. I guess not that water used killing. Victor is heavy enough to crack. Melvin scott i don't pick it up it's probably for prince here. Looks like his pockets being rival to Look at poker chip. Yeah here's another one this guy say to you on the way home not much. He was pretty crock. Say what he was scared of. Nosair smokey joe say what he was kid. Noser there's poker chip came from notre. Your great half aunt you if you ask me. Davis made a big winning some. Join tonight then. Someone who saw him do it followed him home and bumped him all. You're right in all the way home. This junk kept muttering. They take me for a ride. I showed him. I took 'em per ride mattel. Why didn't you tell me that. The price time didn't happen to sleepy. I can think of anything else knows it. All right ed. Staging the photographers had broken murphy. Right boys back out of the way. Wait a minute captain. Look at this way See joe i know calling the all right. Don't try to be funny. She's not the. Don't give me that all right now. Where does he go. Oh down and tell right outgoing. Mr andersson's a name. Yeah have a chance. Thanks nope and now. What can i do for you mr anderson. We want you to help us. Joe show you know. I feel about you boys anything you want. The sky's the limit. You know me good. Remember that drunk. You only to take away last night. Yeah sure somebody bumped him off about ten or fifteen minutes after. I took him home. I say somebody bumped him for about ten or fifteen minutes. After i took him home in the guy wasn't bugging someone was after him. Yeah and i think with your help can find out who it was. Oh yeah well I mean because the guy was in your place you know. But i never said is on him before. How long have he been there. All not long about Thirty minutes maybe longer doing when he came in. And yeah yeah do. I wasn't paying much attention to me. Went back to the private room and ordered a bottle in and some sandwiches. I see where they've been and no. I didn't talk to him. Was he alone all the time he was there. I know i didn't take much notice. When did you. First take notice of them. Jailed when one of the weight is chrome in. Tell me that the end the door locked inside. What'd you back to the door and asked him what was wrong. Was scared for me to call a crop and tried to talk him out of it but he wouldn't open the door lock called you did. He say was scared of you. Know i wouldn't say a word. Maybe so somebody was afraid of Yeah maybe so. I we should tell you the truth. You sure wouldn't hate you. But i mean you think i did. I say that you know. But i know you don't like to have it made public joe but you run a set of games back at your place. Don't you just a social club. Netsanet campaign nothing else on me. I on gambling yard joe. I'm just trying to get you. The helped me discover who killed a guy. Okay that's why. I want you to tell me the true i've targeted joke. Yes but not all of it. I listen. I've found out that davis. That was the man's name was playing the wheel in your social club last night right. Yeah i also found out that he hit the bank to the tune of ten thousand smackers. Find out that's my own business right now you. Somebody saw him cleaned the bank and followed him home. You can't hold that against my place. I'm not trying to whoever followed them home. After i left went to his room. So the ten grand mavis woke up reach for a gun and somebody giving the works so i want you to tell me who it was. I don't know who yes you do. What makes you think that because you joe. I don't think joe local gun. I've known you're behind that curtain ever since i've been here. I dumb flat foot. You ain't got non-nato no. I've got enough to hang you. Why what listen you. We found a blue chip a blue polka chip in his pocket. That ship had some quiz scratches on it. I took it and tried it in your chip machine and it fit exactly. There's a lot. Don't interrupt me. I tried my way into your office and discover that david cleaner to the tune of ten grand. You like it. You heard davis give me the number of his house so you decided i get your ten grand back but how do you. How do i know you did it. Yeah because years ago. Joe when my dad was on this force they brought you in on a fight charge. It seems you nearly kill him. After that in two other fights in your join you invariably chose the same weapon a water pitcher. You only copper. You can't convince me on that evidence. No but you see joe. You very conveniently helped me. When you bend over davis jim your fountain pen slip from your pocket and joe. I'm awfully sorry. But that penn had your name on it Okay andy hello kaplan. Cancel your card on the davis kellen and he just got a confession from smokey joe. Best course lew headquarters originally broadcast back in nineteen thirty two police headquarters on classic radio theater. Find us on facebook type classic radio theater in the search bar like if you would please make sure we come up person. Being to conceal hosted podcasts our email address classic radio theater g mail dot com. I iowa talk. Saint this station support the advertisers and teleprinter the great radio shows were back classic. Radio theatre here on your favorite stations and the usa radio network. Did you know that birthday parties. 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Spoilers and that's where the us marshall and the smell of gunsmoke Starring william conrad story the violence that move west with young america and the story of a man. Move with. I'm that man matt dillon. United states marshal the first man they looked for in the less they wanna meet. It's a chance job at it. Makes them an watchful a little lonely. I'd seen it before. But every time had hoped i'd never see it again. Smolder ended ruin the stock slaughter runoff and family scattered all over a by the morale another doorway and others buried in the ashes of the house. All of them scalp to mutilated justice. So at first we're about fifty miles north but jeff on the pointy. My horse had gone lame from a rough for eight chasing led the nothing lost the trail on a turn back justin's riding up ahead. He stopped and waited and way wrote up to the scene together and got on. This must be the father mischie- and he was coming out of the house to help his son over there. But the corral got one indian for a nine. Yeah shanahan wait a minute. This is why there aren't any arrows around spencer repeating rifle. Sure you must have stolen somewhere. You don't know now there isn't one arrow here. The whole war party had rifles. You mean they've been buying. My guess is coming over there. Is there a little late. Whole group must be from fort dodge. I wonder who's in command and tell. Yeah again you're spreading out. Maybe they think we're indians out of the last four days. We've put in no indian. Good look as bad as we think. Hey hey look. They're they're taking their rival. Gonna charge the captain's playing safe. That's all just well. It may be safe for him standards lying about him. He doesn't need the whole troop up here anyway. I never seen before. I heard there was a neutral but for jackets. This must be be doing here. Well speak. we're looking around. And captain sam is you. Don't be insolent. gavin. What is it sergeant rockies. Hold forty four right. Second design those men. If i were you at stanford sergeant rivals on. I'll be a fool. Four of us here and eighty men behind us. You can't fight a troop of cavalry as your rifle surgeon. And i said this on them completely they make a mortgage broker. Should you aren't mr enough. Just give me a gun justin here. Here's mine are you going to tell me what you're doing here. No prisoners and taking you to put dutch lavar lagrange. Why secure these men and then with a burial party shouldn't take over an hour. Hey gory fifth. Nineteen fifty five. William conrad stars marshal matt dillon in gunsmoke on classic radio theater. Here's some great news if you missed the deadline to sign up for health insurance or more importantly if you sign up for a plan that you're just not happy with you still have a choice. It's called meta share and medishare's a christian healthcare sharing program has been around for twenty five years. 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That matt's working on the chester does know about or at least i hope Got the nichols reporting with the presents. Major got it come on up to his desk. These prisoners kept him nichols yesterday at the scene of the raid of the spencer. Rifle your thought. They might have something to do with a gun. Runners is that they wouldn't talk and they showed signs of resistance. Sir i thought it best to bring them in. Why wouldn't you talk. I got curious curious about what. Well i hadn't heard about any cheyenne's ban on the warpath lately that's one reason a lot else. I found that spencer rifle air. And i figured somebody's been selling guns to those indians. But when the captain came up with his troop. I know that there was more to it than that. Why he was interested in us than in tracking down that war party. What's going on. i'll analysts. Captain yes you know about the reservation east of here. I heard that you're on a capital thousands cheyenne's so you can move them down oklahoma way. Yeah that's right. Except for one thing i would say that lost a few of them about forty. But that's enough you saw that. Yeah who's leading them young renegade called stone eagle and. Why didn't the captain go after him. Instead of stopping to take us. Prisoner that captain's orders were the catch. You ever sell them. those rifles. Thought you might have something to do with show but he still might have been able to run down stone. Eagles party well. What good is that to other leaders. Come up and places. Stone eagle long as rifles are available. There isn't a brave on that reservation at won't hear about it sooner or later in slip away from it or catch up patrol reservation That's the whole point. I know have enough men for more than a token patrol I see a gun running his and stop. The situation will become more and more serious. I understand now major major no wait capping in. Let me explain your new out here. You did right bring in these two about his disreputable looking bears. I've seen since the border war days. Look like they've been living in the badger hole. Yes that's what. I thought expected been on a ride somewhere else. Take them out. Give him a bath couple of clean shirts and bring him back writer and then have a couple extra places set for them in the officers mess with a long time since chester and marshall dillon visited fort dutch. Well it's understandable captain of. I had known him as long as i have. No you were acting on orders captain even though your orders lack intelligence. What's that mean marshall. I'm sorry i shouldn't have major. It's not my arm. I want to know what. I meant intelligence in the military since gone. Look you're chasing all around over the prairie looking for some gun runners that you probably will never find why not. You haven't found them yet. Have no but if you were a shy. And i'll bet you could. That's what i mean by intelligent. I've asked our indian scholar. The cheyenne's hate indian scott's worse than they hate you. I know roy which i knew what to do. Major is cheap long robe on that reservation owned man See why is a friend of mine least was long time ago gone. I might have a talk with him. Impossible i'll why indians to restless. I wouldn't send you an guard into that camp while i'll go without a god kill. Any white man walked in there alone. Try to reach a long road before they do not worth marshall. I'll let you know about that. Tamara major going tonight. Yeah might help get the picture of that. Homestead earn his family out of my mind before. I try to sleep and throw your gun bella. Crushes saddle just do what god won't do any good if the cheyenne's decide they want us right. You wanted to come just lying complain yet anyway. Okay let's go gracious now. Wish ten me of bowling in late. Most of these people are asleep. Two thousand johnson his campaign off. Now now we're being watched ever seconds handsome young buck could get his first cool either by spirit us. You wouldn't want to stand in the way of a man becoming a brave which it just. I am also thinking back how they treat people that ain't he'll write off we turn them over to the squad car death now. You're even afraid of women shine women. I were being stopped. And i say let's keep walking. Don't make any quick moves per now. Long robe gatien. Let's move testimony but keep an eye on still standing my friend of long rogues. Luckily he's from the same clan white fox merida's see that medicine provo with it. That's a long robes lives. You better wait out here. Just good idea are usually we go me and my son woman will give you a buffalo robe to sit on when are now line however spent a long time since. Wait till a long long time. I know why you'll come. Yeah stone nicole. Formal bridge went fast soldier last night. It'd be more tomorrow and day after long. Rub the last time we talked. You told me it was hopeless to go on fighting the white man's army. You said that you wanted peace for your people. I am old man. My son going. You go under braves young. Their blood these hot now. They have rifles shoot many times. I should know about the rifles soon. Every brave on reservation with no then they will leave in spite of guard of soldiers at a lead. The war along rob big war many clans. Among cheyenne's i am chief only pipe fox. What clan is stone. Eagle eagle is of two moon fan but like fox braves with him. I cannot stop them. I remember what it was. Like when i was young it was different than long robe. You had a chance now. They have no chance. There have many rightly have a few. Yes but the army has got thousands and thousands of rifles long rub in the end. The shan cannot win. They must live in peace or he will be destroyed. You're a wise man. You you know this is true. You're right stony goes supplier rifles and got to be stopped. Many of your people will die. You want to know where rifles come from has tell me why stony go meets the white men who been supplying him. Now do the rest. You'll be saving lives along. Cheyenne lives for the sake of my people. I tell you place north of here place near rock mound cabin there rock mound all right. I'll find it. But i must warn you my son but i know the feelings of my people they are like powder. I know you do more than you know. Go find white men with guns. But not kill any of stone eagles warriors. If you do work we'll come and every brave rise and gone warpath by they have rifles or not one. Single schon is killed by cavalry or by you. This will happen says bad as that. I speak the truth like a long road. When it's over i'll come back and we'll smoke the piper if you come back there if i come back On martin waiting for you. Then marshall Gamonal kevin as a major was ordered to fort leonard for few days. Oh i see. I'm in command until the majors return. Did you find out anything last night. Marshall i'll i know i know they go meets the gun. Runners problem is solved. Not quite all i have to do is take my troop their way for stone eagle to come for more rifles. I can wipe out him and the gun runners at the same time. No no why not cheap long robes wise old man captain. He knows as people will so if one brave is killed. That'll be an uprising. An uprising already much. Only some forty or fifty men this be the whole cheyenne nation doesn't make sense maybe not to us but it does to them. Long road never lies. I'll chance it i'll kill. Everyone is stone eagles braves. That'll show them a cavalry's for now whereas meeting place. I am sorry katherine. Sorry i can't tell you ought to tell me very well. Then it's your duty to tell me you're all right captain but your new out here and you're too eager. Indians are the army's business. So you do what you want. I'm going back to dodge Conclusion of gunsmoke from february fifth. Nine thousand nine hundred fifty five. 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I'm serious but indian. Show up first before the gunrunners do or on something else. Just what. I thought of that myself. Yeah but what would we do. I don't know join them. I guess on now. Mr bill wait a minute require those indian with all right thank you. Don't shoot on that side too quiet in here inside drink intact already. Sendak older to shoot. Kill both of them. I didn't even get a shot off. that's still alive or you a us marshal. I'm gonna die marshawn wagon full of rifles and ammunition. I'm supplied from. Wichita ain't gonna do you no good then all that now. You're going to die too. But i mean you never late when amunition. Mba shacking stay to watch what they do to you. He must have been lying. Why should he have lied. And we better run for it. I like catch us. Easy won't be much of a fight to man against a half one hundred giant. We can kill them by god and start war. I forgot about that no matter what we do they will get those rifles unless we can destroy them on full michelle. I swear it must be thirty. Forty least gather up the wouldn't fire that wagon not it's totally chester. Look coming over that rise. Only two of them. Though scott's the war party will come when they signal. We couldn't get fire started. Hey mr dylan scott's disappeared and that's funny just out there Boy scouts were looking at captain nichols at trooping. Move very fast. I still tracking us right and slow and watch like grab them. Indians will be halfway to candidate by the time he gets here. I hope so anyway. Stony gold spanish and other is out of ammunition and captain nickel short. Didn't trust unanimity misdealing. Wow chester we better go kamara hair. I re coma why. I don't wanna get taken prisoner again. Koi still look like we've been living badger hole. I'm smoke produced and directed by norman. Mcdonald's stars william conrad as matt dillon. 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Nine five forty six thirty to trap up this hour of classic radio theater with an episode of the nineteen thirty five syndicated series frontier fighters as they talk about lewis and clark frontier heard inspiring dramatic incidents in the lives of the trail blazers of the far west eighteen hundred and three seated in his study president. Thomas jefferson is talking to his personal secretary after. Lewis your attention for you. Mr president afternoon. I'm a plain man. plainspoken yes misprint. You've been my confidential secretary now for Let me see two years. Yes two years lacking if you will. Captain have speculated why children army officer to be my secretary and many times mr president vigor. You're going to relieve me. Send me back to the troops. Komo returning you to your regiment. After lewis you know business in the army no business in the army or you don't think lack courage sack. of course. not your record and the whisky. Insurrection is ample proof your girds. Well then this deficit in just what you infer. After lewis as third president of the united states of america i contemplate sending an expedition to explore the great northwest territory beyond the rocky mountain. You captain meriwether lewis and another army officer will lead that expedition on him and thank you for your confidence and Who may i ask you to be my colleague in this undertaking man like yourself a soldier intelligent courageous man who will sacrifice his life. If need be to make this project. Success captain william clark winter eighteen hundred three at the head of twenty six men. Fourteen of them volunteer soldiers. The others kentucky boys lewis and clark was snowed in at the mouth of the missouri river near what is now the city of saint louis until spring thaws finally released them and they traveled on ever westward toward the setting sun. Oil the lewis in clock cavalcade fighting hostile indians exploring the hidden. Tributaries of the great missouri river blazing new trails through the dense but magnificent wilderness charting paths never before trump by white men winter of eighteen hundred four saw lewis and clark among more friendly redskins in what is now southeastern montana one day while the explorers or making a survey with their simple yet effective instruments. Look look clark in the valley there. Two men quite to an indian. Go right colo. One of the men is beating. The girl can't allow that correct lewis. Come up enough the blanks about already Got the daylight out of an engine. You're for make them behave. Go live now not claim girl any longer. You're married proper. That gives me more rights to whaler and i'm taking clinton faced you one for you. It will you who help. I will not authorize you within an inch of your life. And whom i you be. I'm captain louis. There's a cap o'clock. Oh my name is. George was on the way to pay visit our expedition. Don't welcome white man who beat women not even indian women. Who's this man and this indian girl. I love girls squall club. What's your business traders trappers. god neither. We're interpreters what you can. we do. Men don't know my squad does he. understanding Go ahead palaver. With or. what's your name catch. What does we mean among your people woman i see. How did you come to marry this i. I'll answer that we're listening. I want to game the chief of the ministry's she was a prisoner of war and is that true with after woman and we were captive. My man gambled fourteen horses for me. He won Your lower than a skunk brand throwing dice for a woman who we white men out here live. According to engine custom. I want women ferron square. I married this one. She can guide tool until you two men. What jobs is interpreted we do your heart army. Hey listen we get if we ever catch beating your squawking. You wish you'd lost your fourteen horses instead of a winning. This poor abused girl. He wanted to spend on youtube to the headquarters. Ten the ending go to scott west at once. Grateful to lewis and block for delivering her from the white man. Lashings sakaba julia. Many times saved the expedition from total annihilation as one day while on the plane clarke buffalo. One that right. I see him. Look ugly do waiting for that. Big bull leader to make up his mind. He's decided hegel. I must be ten thousand animals in that her. Yeah the leader seen us swerving clinical a hidden sleep this way to the country. We are coming out of that. Coach is the ought by rights guarantees. She was safe pairing that go. She's running speak for middle of the hurt leaving a blanket. It's an old indian tends to the hurting the middle. She never do. There's too many lewis. We're all comments. Clark owner out just looking good. Boop the cost of snow he spelt she hit again hurts party clark party out everybody down the club. Clark all right. My is good pot in the middle just as the country. We had intended. It should impact on either side of us with ways to help the girl safe still standing there. But she hit that bullied in the snow and look like she's waiting blanket. Look man. I can't call. She's panetta's am through unexplored forests across forbidding mountains toil the brave expedition pushing the boundaries of the united states across the rockies adding to the nation's domain broad plains fertile valleys and snow covered peaks a dominion vast enough rich enough to satisfy the ambition of king all through the long journey westward with countless obstacles blocking the bloodstain sweat-soaked path of the explorers sequoia was constantly at the site of lewis and clark the end of the month of june eighteen. Hundred five from the party at the foot of the great falls of the missouri and while making their tedious harrowing portage around the great polls lewis and clark and their intrepid companions celebrated the first fourth of july ever to be held in montana above. Great paul's they discovered that the missouri river broken into three forks with they name the jefferson the medicine and the gallatin while this country. They were deluge by numerous thunderstorms work. This into rain is a cloudburst out of this riverbeds. People the atari fallout comes to conway up ahead always taken into that rise over there and left the country. We have the right your life a real and on my shoulders tyrone my knicks curb. Pick a screen. you go. don't kick off so hard together. that's i can. I can still wanna hit that make for that. I do we here. We are sick a client to call these guys help. It's about hey elegant a bit the on trade cold war but that was wet do there buckskin garments hanging in tatters from. They're gone shoulders. Their faces deeply seemed from hunger and exposure there verify torn and bleeding their flesh seared by indianapolis they explorers finally reached the columbia river. Who know then the fifteen eighteen five around that penalties lewis of. I can't see anything. But i hear plenty. Let's see lowest. Let's see that's sweet music clock the ruler those rigors. I a few blue. Why on without mighty see the settings reciprocal along party and did victory. Crown the lewis and clark expedition an epic struggle against almost overwhelming on a journey. The gave america riches beyond human comprehension. Those pioneers of yesterday. Who followed that. Brave little band of trailblazers and descendants of today or great and lasting depth gratitude to circle. Julia the simple indian girl who dedicated to years of her life to the service of our white brothers and sisters and thus did the frontier fighters of yesteryear baffled danger the elements of nature and discouragement. To push the american foundry ever westward. syndicated in nineteen thirty five frontier fighters. In the story of lewis. And clark we thank you so much for us part of your day. 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Well i mean there's always plenty of things in the news to talk about here tonight Chris wade was actually in Just before you guys walked in the door. I guess he didn't get the memo that somebody else is going to be here and he brought a story about qualified immunity. Apparently there was some sort of a supreme court case that has that has addressed this recently. And so that's what we were going to about. I think that's a great case if you've been following that yeah yeah i read about that. Yesterday i've read about it several times. But i saw the reason article yesterday. Yeah and i. it's a great case. Can you define for our listeners. What qualified immunity is qualified. Immunity is a doctrine of the supreme court. That basically says that you can that a cop can only be found liable for civil damages. If he's doing something which has already been ruled unconstitutional like repeatedly. He should've known better right. But but it's more than he should have known better. It's like he should've known better from reading. A very narrowly defined set of presidents. Okay so basically something be obviously wrong but if there's never been a case like it before qualified immunity applies so if you come up with something really horrible and really creative to do to people that nobody ever thought of before you can't be held liable for that and nobody can ever be found liable for it because if you're not found liable for it then the next guy to do it won't be found liable for it because nobody's ever been found viable floor it before and if you write a good enough report you're going to get away with it as well now. I'm curious the story that you're reading about. Was it about a prison warden was i. Yeah he basically. He left a inmates sleeping naked in raw sewage. So it was and nobody's ever done that before our. Nobody's ever been taken to court for doing that before. So the appeals court ruled that it was. He couldn't be found liable even though it was just shocking and the supreme court found that any reasonable person should have known that that was a violation of the eighth amendment prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment even in the absence of some idiot having done it before and been found liable more or less. That's not how their club works. And so it's a change to. It's it's different from what they've been doing up till now and so. That's what makes it important. Absolutely if you wanna comment you're welcome to join us here over at six zero three. Two eight three sixty one sixty six zero three two eight three six one six zero. And so actually. I'm still trying to find the story here. Because like i said i didn't actually have it. The the piece here was was chris so we may just have to look for that later and see because the story you had talked about with raw sewage wasn't the one that i was just looking at Just now okay. So yeah we'll see what we can figure. One says that the federal court confirms that shackling an inmate during exercises cruel and unusual punishment and this had to do with qualified immunity because the warden who flouted the rule was not protected by it so if federal okay in this case rule debt shackling an inmate in full restraints while exercising qualified as cruel and unusual punishment and that the warden is not protected by qualified immunity. The this was the. Us court of appeals for the second circuit that confirmed that angel kiro formerly the warden at northern correctional institute in connecticut violated the man's eighth amendment rights when prison officials placed m edwards is the prisoner in restraints during his exercise. Time over a six month period specifically he had his hands cuffed with leg irons on his ankles and a chain tether securing those two sets of restraints to one another and they said that In twenty fourteen a lower court gave the warden qualified immunity the legal doctrine that protects government officials from certain sorts of lawsuits if the alleged misbehavior was not clearly established in a prior case law. In practical terms this means courts often acknowledged that a civil servant infringed on a defendant's rights but without a court precedent they still award that civil servant protection from accountability and the case initially followed that pattern but the us district court for connecticut ruled that while every inmate has the right to recreate free from restraints. This was not a clearly established right however the second circuit countermanded that on appeal allowing the case to go to a jury which sided with the prisoner in twenty eighteen. The district court then turn around and vacated that decision a fairly uncommon move maintaining that the warden only had enough information to know of the violation for a short period of time as opposed to the entire six months then appealed again The the bureaucrat raised the same concern which the court rejected act citing his own testimony. The warden also challenged the idea that an eighth amendment violation occurred at all arguing that the plaintiff was not deprived of the ability to attend outdoor recreation and to get fresh air and walk but the second circuit wouldn't have it. The judge wrote in the case quote. We've described the right at issue as that. Some opportunity as that to some opportunity to exercise and we cannot determine as a matter of law that the jury aired finding edwards limited ability to shuffle around in full restraints while breathing fresh air constituted meaningful exercise actually rule in favor of the prisoner in that case the award and also argued that safety justified the restraints which undermined constitutional claims but the jury was entitled to disagree. Wrote the judge. The safety justification was undermined by testimony from the prisoner credited. By the jury that corrections officers would not always employ the most restrictive shackling With moving him out of his cell around the facility so basically saying they actually put him in greater restriction when they took him out for exercise than when they had moving about the facility. Yeah so so anyway. That was the qualified immunity. The came up here when i looked on reason. We'll see if we can figure out what you guys. 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It was new to To the penguin as well at chris who is going to be in here tonight but He had had this story to talk about and it sounded really interesting because at the supreme court has actually made a ruling regarding qualified immunity. So this is a different case than what we were just talking about which is actually a recent story by billy binion over at reason dot com and this one is about a a a warden at what appears to be a conn jail. I don't it's a federal. It must be northern correctional institute in somers connecticut who was shackling. A man. Cuffing his hands and putting leg irons on his ankles and then tethering both of those restraints to each other like they used to send us to court. I don't think they tethered them together. Did they They yeah they had us both Released when we when we went to court together addressed passive twelve. They had the Velcro belt on on both of us. 'cause we managed to get my belt off earlier in the van. I remember that and special guest co host here within a nobody scott. He's the co host of a different show. Which is called conversations about freedom. You hosted with a guy named moral bob. Yes the name. He goes by and This is you're saying a brand new podcast people. Just don't even have a website yet does not even have a website does not even have a website. You can find on stitcher. Spotify and podcast. How many episodes are you into this. I started actually. He had the podcast. Before i got onto it. I started on episode fourteen. Okay and episode fifteen featured pope. Nobody over here okay. So were you like twenty something. Irish twenty five. Okay almost a half a year. Congratulations that's great. So check them out and so again. The qualified immunity aspect of this prison store. The first prison story were telling you about with the warden who was trying to claim qualified immunity because he was basically saying that he didn't know that he could treat his prisoners. Like this where it's basically during exercise time. They were shackling him down so all he could do was essentially shuffle tracking during so-called exercise and scott. You're telling done the thorazine shuffle. It's not yeah. It's not meaning bill recreational off the air. I did mention that. I before back when i was a status. was a correctional officer and it was commonplace to take a sewer in segregation and shackle them exactly like that and cut their ankles and hands and chain them together and take them out into the Cages with a single basketball hoop. And let them just walk around in a circle our like just to tease him. Yeah just the basketball hoop. You could be playing basketball but no we're not going to let you know they would do this even in the winter they just take him out in the cold and leave them there and leaving there for an hour they give him a coat. Wow that since you know they're cuffed up they would just throw it over their shoulders. Just walk around for an hour. What was this a State prison or jail. It was a prison. These are long term long term offenders prisoners okay. And how long did you work there. i shouldn't say fender. That's the term. We used in weird there. They were prisoners. Yeah yeah they didn't offend anyone most of than didn't harm anyone really where most of them there for non violent offenses i would say over ninety five percent of them where there for nonviolent. Wow wow and where was. This would stay. Can you say Yeah i i don't care i'll i'll throw them out there as correctional industrial facility in pendleton. Indiana was a government run or private. Yes it's government run but we have private prisons. We have geo corporation or whoever. And they're like almost as bad if not worse right lengthy than the government prisons. What have you heard about those I didn't work at a. go facility. All i know is at one point they brought and this was a year before i hired on at the prison. They brought a offenders from arizona. And put them in a jio facility in newcastle and they righted because well one thing there from arizona and they never got to see their families Halfway across the country no feds do that all the time right. Federal inmates get shuffled usually therapy. They purposely take them away from their families. They moved them as far away from their loved. Ones as they possibly. Can they call diesel therapy. Yeah yeah yeah. It's horrendous practice. It is horrible and the state facilities have such strict visiting room policies. That often when people come to visit like if they had a family member from arizona come visit if they were out of dress code. They would say well. You can't come in today. And they send him packing after they traveled however long and all the way across the country to spend an hour with their family member. Yep up your shorts or too short. Sorry that happened to ruin albright. I think at least more than what's disgusting. A six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty if you've been on the inside of a Facility as somebody who worked there or somebody who is being kept there and you wanna comment. You're welcome to join us here at six zero three two eight three six one. Six zero so Just continued briefly on the first story from reason about the warden qualified immunity after an appeal. Of course the first court did give it to him. The denial of qualified immunity does not mean that a defendant has been found guilty. It merely gives the plaintiff the right to sue in other words in official awarded. The legal protection is thus spared from facing the possibility of accountability not accountability itself. So there's just off the table any kind of Potential harm to Or financial harm to the person who did the actual damage to this individual case. Shackling them during exercise time and they're not only spared that though there spared even having the story told publicly in court where it can be recorded because yeah they do. They dismissed the case. Right off the bat bef- for that before has been heard at least if you if you go through the whole trial and people think that will what you did is horrible. They can put that trial on youtube or something. And or or you know. Put it on blast where people will see it. The jury reasonably determined upon sufficient evidence that the warden knowingly violated the prisoners clearly established right to meaningful exercise under the circumstances and lacked a sufficient justification for doing so so the jury's finding stood on so that's a little bit of good news but apparently the better news is here from november also coming from reason dot com ilia. Summon writing that. The supreme court has rejected qualified immunity as a defense for the first time in yours. Now is this as good as it sounds on its face. We'll find that out coming up here in moments does say that the case doesn't make any change in legal doctrine but may be intended to send a message to the lower courts will tell you more about what happened in this particular case as well where. The supreme court issued a decision rejecting law enforcement officers qualified immunity. Defense the case was taylor versus rio haas and it was the first such supreme court ruling since two thousand and four just to give you some idea of how long between these guys even ruling on a similar taste. Some kids and you know they. It's been that long since they ruled right and even a stopped clock is right twice a day so just to give you a point of comparison six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty. We'll continue here. Of course your calls and thoughts are welcome on qualified immunity. Or whatever happens to be on your mind coming up. We'll also tell you about the hugged tent. 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It's the and nobody in scott here in the studio tonight to get into the story that i had originally intended to talk about here. This evening. thanks to think penguin dot com where chris wade is normally with us You're sitting in for him tonight and He brought this one tonight from reason. Dot com ilya so men about the supreme court in a case taylor versus rio haas where they rejected a law enforcement officers qualified immunity defense the first such supreme court ruling since two thousand four which alone makes it significant now whether the court will take a more forceful action to curb qualified. Immunity in future cases remains to be seen qualified. Immunity is the notorious doctrine under which law enforcement officers and many other government officials are immune from civil lawsuits for violating constitutional and statutory rights. In the course of performing their duties unless they have violated quote unquote clearly established law. Courts have interpreted clearly established so narrowly that officers routinely get away with horrendous abuses merely because no federal court in their area has previously decided a case with essentially identical facts. So if the officer doesn't abuse the person in a similar way to a previous officer who was ruled against in court then he gets qualified immunity. That sounds great so basically the way i understand it is. They just have to be really creative. How they torture someone as long as it's never been done in that way. That's what it sounds like in this case taylor versus real jose seventy-one majority and They they concluded in the supreme court that the lower court had gone too far in granting qualified immunity to prison officials in an egregious case where they subjected a prisoner to horrific treatment. So now they're gonna share an excerpt from. I believe the majority decision in this case. So here's what they wrote. Trent taylor is an inmate in the custody of the texas department of criminal. Justice taylor alleges that for six full days. In september of two thousand thirteen corrections officers confined in a pair of shockingly unsanitary sells the first sale was covered nile nearly floor to ceiling in massive amounts of feces all over the floor ceiling window walls and even packed inside the water faucet fearing that his food and water would be contaminated. Obviously taylor did not eat or drink for nearly four days. Correctional officers then moved him to a second frigid cold cell which was a crypt equipped with only a clogged drain in the floor to dispose. Bodily wastes taylor held his bladder for over twenty four hours. But he eventually and involuntarily relieved himself. God this disgusting. I to apologize to our listeners. For sharing this with you. You're not supposed we're not supposed to pander to the lowest common denominator on free talk live but this is the actual news. Okay so like this really happened. Yeah we're not talking about poop things because we want to gross you out. This actually happened to a person so he relieved himself causing the drain to overflow which then made raw sewage spill across the floor because the cell oh man it just keeps getting worse. It lacked a bunk. So he didn't have anywhere he could like sit to escape the feted fecal matter coming out of this drain. He was confined also without clothing so he was left to sleep naked in raw sewage. The court of appeals for the fifth circuit properly held such conditions of confinement violate the eighth. Amendment's prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment. Thanks but based on its assessment that the law wasn't clearly established that prisoners couldn't be housed in cells teaming with human wastes for only six days. The court concluded the prison officials responsible for his confinement. Did not have fair warning that their specific acts were unconstitutional. So this court of appeals ruled that the confinement was absolutely cruel and unusual but because the officers in charge weren't really aware of the court cases of now cruel and unusual punishment and this didn't exactly match up with any of them therefore qualified immunity. Yeah so basically the idea of there and the thickness horrendous about that is if you do something to a prisoner. That's so horrible and creative that nobody ever thought of it before you get a free pass. That's what the fifth circuit was saying. Now the court finally again in a seven one ruling supreme court ruled that the fifth court the fifth circuit erred in granting the officer's qualified immunity on this basis quote qualified immunity shields an officer from suit when she makes a decision that even if constitutionally deficient reasonably misapprehensions the law governing the circumstances. She confronted so saying again that they're given protection if a don't really understand what they're doing. Okay they made a mystic and but see. as far as i'm concerned still there should be a judgment in that case and maybe the officer should then have the right to sue his institution and make them pay the damages based on. You didn't train me properly. But now i don't like to see the officer charged there well. The taxpayers are paying for that. That's the thing and of course you can't impose a criminal charge on an institution in any meaningful way. You can't put them in jail. You can't execute them but no reasonable correction. I get back to the supreme court's ruling. They say no reasonable correctional officer could have concluded concluded that under the extreme circumstances of this case that it was constitutionally permissible to house taylor in such deplorably unsanitary conditions for such an extended period of time confronted with a particularly egregious facts of this case. Any reasonable officers should have realized that. Taylor's conditions of confinement offended the constitution. Thank you go. It took literally a room full of raw sewage including being packed in the actual faucets and spigots. Yeah so he can't even drink can't do anything to have. A drink of water is absolutely horrifying. Took that and then a second room with raw sewage bubbling up from the great in the floor which was the only way he had to relieve himself No no actual bed in which he could escape from it and just freezing cold conditions that was enough to finally make the supreme court say okay. You don't get qualified immunity but that's what it took. Yeah and that is. That's something where if somebody told me that that happened to them in a third world prison. Yeah i would be astounded by that. I mean except. I wouldn't be because i expect these people to be fucking only on is sorry so long. He was all concerned that he was going to be the one to do that. And it was me. What were you trying to say there. I don't know i completely lost. That's one thing i can say is it doesn't matter it's the institution that's the problem All this is gonna do this court. Rulings going to do is make the officers better at hiding. They're still going to do it. Of course yes. They're just going to write their reports different. The court is right now. This is back to reason. And their assessment of the case the court is right to conclude the facts here were particularly egregious and that any reasonable officer should've been able to understand this kind of abuse violates the eighth amendment. You don't have to be a great legal theorist to figure out that forcing a prisoner to live. It's raw sewage and feces for days on end let alone. An hour is cruel and unusual at the same time. It's one thing if you're in a normal as cruel and unusual. It's like humane. If you do something really cruel all the time it becomes. Okay chance of cruel. yeah. I mean it's one thing if you're in a cell that's in normal shape and the toilet overflows and you gotta deal with cleanup situation. That's one thing yeah thought to be put into a cell where there's already sewage all over. The place stands a serious violation of any kind of human decency. Six three two eight sixty one sixty but there's more story here and we'll share that with you and you can share your thoughts with us. Whatever is on your mind. Goes here on free talk live. We'll talk about the hudson coming up. It's not a good hug. Tent coming up we have some good news indictments again. This year. Firefighters like the fire chief james hall battle wildfires around the country in hopes of containing them but firefighters can't do it alone a single ember that escapes from a welfare can travel more than a mile or can ignite and destroy your home and community get fire adapted learn simple steps. You can take now to reduce wildfire damage later at fireadapted dot. 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I'm so glad. You got through nazi-occupied german same tackling live never seen so many cops on the highway. As i did new york i really was. Did you go the northern direction. Or through the city i went by. I can't think all the will you go through new york city or you go around. I did not go through new york city coming from indiana. You wouldn't go through new york city because you're coming from around. But i feel like i was in that state forever. I was seeing a police officer in the media and probably every two mile. How it was ridiculous. Actually wasn't i. I was actually surprised. We didn't see that many Because we drove through upper state. New york kind of her like mid and then sort of upper Through albany to get here on the way back and didn't see more than a. I know four of them or something. Well yeah i saw a lot. They had a lot out today. Maybe they were on I can't think of what they call a project Thanks projects yeah so anyway. Six three two three sixty one sixty kirby what would you wanna share tonight First of all in that story you to share it was extremely disturbing. Thank you four. But who's very it's right. It was hard to rehab. And i said scott and the body copy of the indiana statue on telegraph. What's not qualified immunity. It's worth pointing out that out here. Like qualified immunity is a statute. It's something that the government politicians passed to protect their buddies in the bureaucracy so it could be repealed. I mean people are always looking to the courts to interpret it differently but if actually you know if the politicians actually cared about this issue they would just repeal it. A move afoot in new hampshire to repeal qualified. Believe there is something i got to say about that. Because i'm going to put the libertarian candidate in indian on the spot here i went to one of his events. Which one is the governor He was. He was a candidate for governor Didn't get more than like ten percent in the voters she did. He got like fourteen percent. How yeah it was alive okay. That's governor messed up. Nobody can do the all right now. What you want to call them out I went to one of his events. And i asked him to face. I was like let's see. What do you think about qualified immunity. Let's get rid of it. And his answer to me was it does not need to be repealed. It needs to be redefined. that's insane. I'm like that to me. I'm like that is not a. That's not how to answer how these people keep getting in to these nominations for these. Top spot libertarian positions. Well the answer is is that you know basically if you are absolutely if you are absolutely consistent in your libertarianism. you're going to get a very small segment of the vote and you're not gonna be able to do anything so sometimes because he won't get elected i i don't know i mean you get elected anyway in running theory indicate in theory if you don't factor in the fact that the elections are rigged. Well then shook actor that in number one but not not only that but they re that but the media will ignore you so it doesn't even elections and weren't rigged the media doesn't want you to be able to communicate because they're buddies republican democrat parties. Don't want that to happen. So the mirror carries the heart of the rigging of the election and the thing is a lot of people are still in denial over that and that's one of the reasons i encourage people to get involved with the libertarian party and work on campaigns because getting cheated twice working for ron paul work may did wonders for me becoming a a An anarchist because one that denial was broken. And i saw how rigged everything was i was like. There is no political solution because they have made that they have made peaceful evolution impossible and so therefore the only thing left is either revolution or wait for it to collapse. Okay scott. Do you think that nobody is correct. Here would this guy. This candidate in indiana what was his name. Donald rainwater would donald rainwater have done worse if he opposed qualified immunity and was more consistently libertarian with his viewpoints in indiana. I absolutely believe so he would have done worse. You would i you. You could go through. His social media feeds And every ten or fifteen posts would be. Well how do you feel about police. But how do you feel about police And where are heavily republican state. And if he would have come out and said let's get rid of qualified immunity. I guarantee you the cop suckers out there would have kirby what do you think about this guy for the bootlicker vote. Think about this libertarian candidate. He couldn't run of cal way if the got anywhere close. The what's got it is right. This is a very republican authoritarian state wide. We might have some of the most lax gun laws in state They found in numerous ways around. Those laws We have a red flag the law. It's ridiculous i mean. This is a very repressive state. I mean think about it. We got the right to buy alcohol in a liquor store two years ago sunday. Yeah yeah they. Lots of blue eyes and you still cannot buy chilled alcohol and a gas station because it's arbitrary to worry. Hold on wait. Wait just to clarify you saying that. You couldn't buy alcohol just in liquor stores on sunday that you could buy at like by any store wide really where you could go to a restaurant and order a drink alcohol so now you can actually convenience store on a sunday in by alcohol and that just happened years ago yes. I still restricted into like certain yours. They're only open from noon. Kill eight and states like that one group of people that always lobbies through that kind of is the bar owners because then shredded getting drunk at home yet about that. And you're unprepared. You gotta go spate five guys much much for a drink in their bars. So they love that. Yeah that's why every other store for downtown bar or restaurant. And i am no proof that this is but i have a little conspiracy theory about that. That whole fight in indiana. I don't want to defend indiana politics. 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Greg bring up anything you want coming up the hug tent. That sounds like fun but no no. It's a disturbing dystopia. N- crazy thing. We'll tell you about it coming up here But i we got joe. He's in michigan to kick things off here in our number two joe. You're on free talk. Live i listen to you guys. Talk about that Prisoner that they had in Feces and its own urine and stuff like that. If you did that to a dog they rushed through a uniform. Probably three in a mental hospital. Would there was just a story in the news this week. about somebody who is living in a trailer in a trailer park or wherever and they had like thirty dogs in cages. They were all in. You know rolling in their own feces because they weren't let out in a that's where they were living and that person is absolutely being charged with animal cruelty. and i'll tell you what even an anarchist society. I might bitch smack a guy who did that. I always do that to your your fellow human being And then warm coffee or whatever. I'm a. I'm a prison guard. Whatever you know. Give me a break man. They know exactly what the state thinks of. You know they don't respect us. We're just We're just worker bees to pay their Pay for their wars and us tangent. But you're not wrong joe. I appreciate that what else you wanna share tonight. Go ahead oh no i just you know stuff like that. And you know the media they they notice that Go on social media how the attitude you don't hear about you know police violence anymore and all of that because it was a political thing you know mainly they were using but You're saying you don't happen when you say you don't hear about police violence. You mean you're comparing what you're seeing in the news. Now to the sort of frenzy of coverage the media gave police abused in the summertime of twenty twenty. So it's it's you know we had an election now we're just gonna ignore it's like the police abuses ended. Well it's their police bs now. Yeah isn't there. it was back in the day. I don't know how i mean back in the day. After clinton was elected all the homeless people disappeared. You know but that's all. They talked about her forever. I was young back then. But still i remember. It's our media. Is the problem the biggest problem in this country. They're not honest and they're just gonna police violence place abuse. There's not gonna be any real reform. If anything happens it'll just be you know nipping at the edges or whatever but yeah there was an interesting couple of memes. I saw today in the tales of a libertarian telegram. Chat room where. I don't know if you heard about the democrats and the media is being is referring to kids being taken into custody in the immigration detention centres and under trump. They of course were saying his concentration camps. Yeah and they are. Now yeah now. The overflow facilities the kids are being held in quote overflow facilities of course means the exact same thing is going on. It's just being described in a different manner. Yeah and it's that way across the media is not you know this reporter or that reporter. Doing the other thing that you'll notice is how often you hear the same words coming out of every talking heads mouth like they're getting talking points from a from central facilities. It's clear well at this overflow facility. This is nineteen eighty-four. It really is so creepy walking around all government projects years behind schedule but yes it's nineteen eighty-four often miss names their projects like overflow facility or Get examples a few weeks back the cdc program which are just concentration camp. No yeah we reported on that. That was a big deal jennifer. He'll they're still rolling out that one. They're just talking about right now. That's that's in the planning stages. Yeah yeah absolutely. And if you don't think nazi germany is gonna come to the united states. Look at your very own. Cdc the and then go to read gold. It can't have patriot. Act man of the patriot. Act that was patriot. Cheek records and their you know spying on everybody. Now you've courts were secret after the patriot. Act triumph now. Now you can't even get a trial. We just saw guy today an old friend of the show. Actually i think bud was on the show a couple of times longtime listeners may remember and we had a guy in years in new hampshire. You know native Friend of a friend of the show and he was facing some just horrific trumped up charges. His own mother had accused him of inappropriately like doing things around his own. Child is own stepchild and being naked or something like that it was. It was like the kids. I'm naked getting into showers. Some they made it sound like so terrible and he was facing felony child abuse charges over what his own mother had alleged and and he was out on our front porch today. So you know he was hanging out with you. And i'm like i haven't seen i haven't seen him in a couple of years since these charges Hit him and i said did the. Did those charges get dropped. How's it going. You know what's going on with these bs because it sounded like to me knowing no yet and he said yeah that he beat the charges but what he meant when he said he beat them was that they did drop the child abuse charges and they got him to take a guilty plea for simple assault. So you didn't get any sort of you know sex conviction. So that's good but he did take a guilty plea to simple. Why did that happen. Why did you take the plea you know. Because he felt like he could beat these this case and that there was no evidence against it was just this this crazy mother of his that that brought these charges basically and so he said the reason why he took the guilty plea was because they'd held him in jail for ten months pretrial and what they told him was was that they don't know when the trial is going to be due to cove it so basically he could sit in jail until whenever it was decided right indefinitely until they decided to have a trial finally for him which again it had already been ten months of his life and so they came to him and said you can take this plea deal to the simplest salt. I think it was a misdemeanor. Simple assault charge. And we'll let you out today today. Yep wow and or you can just sit here and we'll get you the trial as soon as we can but we don't know when that's going to be doing always a criminal for life. Well he was already was already criminal but the thing is and that is not new. I mean i was in. I was in jail with a guy happen to be black guy and a lot of times. What are the most egregious. Things are happening. Two black guys. I'm i this happens to it. Happens to everybody but black folks get it worse. I mean there's no doubt about it. But i don't wanna take away from what happened. This guy. ten months of his life behind bars. He didn't do yeah. He didn't hit a kid but he pled guilty to hitting a kid just to get out of jail but the guy was in jail with they said well if you plead guilty than you do thirty days If you don't plead guilty. Your trial is scheduled in forty five days. Yeah so you do fifteen days be pretrial more than you would have done if you just pled guilty. So of course they plead guilty and then that gets hung over their head for the rest of their life so that's a way of picking and choosing the the winners and losers in society. Joe thanks for the call tonight. I do appreciate hearing from you. Our phone lines are open for you. 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They are actually renting it out to people that want to rent the dome which is pretty cool so if if you're a stripper you'd like come to fork fast. All all expenses paid send an email stripper at elect. Nobody dot com ca only female strippers. Or if i if i can find it the thing is there's going to be a lot more business for female strippers than male strippers. Because you know if if you have one of the guys at park has to take his clothes off he'll probably do it for free if you're a girl and so the Are defined. If i if i was able to find enough females to like justify taking the tent for a week then i would i would be. I would be fine with having a male night. I suspect they're not willing to rent it for the whole week. But maybe if you had enough money they would do it. I know that show too. I want to do their own kind of things there as well okay. I was thinking they were. They were going to rent the second tenth out for the whole time or the sec. What they're gonna do with the second time. I don't know oh i don't know if this is a whole new dome or like an upgrade to the old. I don't know what it is exactly that they've got okay. I know they're working on. I'll get him on the horn. I'm i got pretty cool to four fest party. June twenty eight through july fourth. You can get your rv site your campsite or your motel room from rogers campground and we will look forward to seeing you there so i mentioned this hug tent and that sounds good it does. It sounds fun. It sounds like something people need like. You know people need contact they They need human contact and unfortunately no. It is the dystopia version of a hug tent. And i. I don't know if you've seen this photo scott. I'm gonna try to describe what this looks like. There is a woman who presumably is one of the people that is in inside this colorado an elderly home and urging home. Her name is khloe. Mcdonald's she's eighty four years old and her her not her husband but her. I think it's her son. I'm not sure actually may be her husband. Anyway somebody who is. Yeah no sorry. it says. it's her son. Her son is holding hands with her but he is behind a plastic sheet. That is so like crinkled. You can't even see through it very well so you can't even see the person that behind the sheet particularly well. He's got his arms inside of some sleeps. his arm is not only okay. So there's a plastic sleeves on his arms on his own clothing. He's got he's inside a plastic sleeve and then his plastic sleeved arms are then plastic sleeves themselves. He several glove and he is double plastic sleeve double double gloved as he is then quote unquote holding hands with his eighty four year. Old mother while this plastic that and you can see it from here. Nobody you can see how how fuzzy looking. Yeah asked all i. I can't even see what's behind it except a shape right. There's a you're right. I mean and plus the guys also masked so. You can't even see his face you can't see if he's smiling. You would think that if he was behind a plastic sheet. I mean this guy's compl completely behind the sheet. It's not like he's like. Hey it's not like the sheet is hanging down right in front of him. And there's you know three feet to the left it's open. There's there's no opening here. It's just a full sheet conceals this woman the sun from this woman and and he is just sitting there on his knees. He's trying to make eye contact with her. but. I don't think that you can see anyone very well through this thing. So he's got a mask on. You can't see us. It's just so disturbing. See if i was old and i realized that if i was all i would be a great deal more jeopardy from covid but if i was given the choice of being able to hug my son or daughter versus you can not hug your son or daughter except through this tent. And you're gonna live ten years longer. I would be like why. Would i wanna live ten years longer like that. This isn't living now. Yeah i i just this hug my kid and if i die i die. In two years ago this would have been called a kink now. It's called visiting grandma. Yeah yeah it's like the latex people. I never understood that the game. He's he's like the you know. The the the transparent gam is what he is it had been at least eight months since she touched her seventy seven year. old husband. Len this is lydia hartman out two different women than is in the photo here but It had been eight months at least since she touched her husband who has dementia and has been at an assisted living facility in suburban denver for the last year. This is in louisville colorado on wednesday. She got a small taste of what life was like before the coronavirus pandemic sort of this by the way is the ap reporting. Thanks to a quote on quote hug tent setup outside of judah per village louisville hartman got to squeeze her husband albeit while wearing plastic sleeves and separated by a four millimeter thick clear plastic barrier. It's like amish dating except they use plastic instead of bundling sheet and calling this a clear. Plastic barrier is a real stretch. It's not clear at all. She says she really hugging him or just the plastic. I mean she's hugging. She's touching plastic. Yeah i mean you might be able to feel some warmth. Perhaps plastic maybe. She says i really needed. I really needed it. Meant a lot to me and it's been a long long time hartman. Who fractured vertebrae. She's seventy five years old by the way and could no longer take care of herself or take care of her husband by herself. Said she thought he was a little confused but that it was important for them to embrace again. She said we've been trying to do it for a long time. It felt good. I kept hitting his glasses when i hugged him though and he got cold. Although the setup wasn't ideal she said at least you can do something and it's important and that's how sad this whole situation is. This means something detail after her. If she would perf- if she would have preferred to take the risk i doubt i doubt was the ap either part of the establish. I don't think it's allowed. He's at a facility after if she would have preferred it. If i if i was the reporter my first question would be given the choice would you. Would you take a long life like this or a short life with real. That would have been the most interesting question to ask. I think so Number here six zero three two eight hundred sixty one sixty to answer that question. If you're in the up in your ears and you can put yourself in this situation. What would happen. What would your choice. 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It's something that allows people to connect physically together and share some warped and share some love and appreciation for their fellow man or lady and sugar baby and now all of that warmth all of that wonder has been just suck right out of the experience by the new dystopia crazy medical authoritarian police state that we are surrounded by where now at a Apparently in loveland collar or sorry louisville colorado according to the ap they now have set up a hug tent outside of an elderly home Some sort of an assisted living facility and it is one of the most disturbing photographs That i've seen in the last year. Where a man is just kneeling in front of his mother. Sitting away from her just touching her hands touching her hands. He's touching her hands through two layers of plastic. He's got plastic sleeves up his arms and then his sleeved arms or then inside of plastic sleeves that are connected to this plastic drape that is separating him from his mother. And you can't even really see through this. I mean it's it's not opaque but it's also not transparent either it. It looks like it's it is foggy off. It's very very bad and it's just absolutely terrible. Foggy is your average cops understanding the nice ghazi in bler. It's very very disturbing. And if you wanna comment you're welcome to join us here at six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty but yet people are praising this people believe this is good. This is positive and well. It's better than nothing it is but it's not as good as freedom now. It's absolutely disturbing. Let's go to your calls. Your thoughts are welcome. You can bring up anything you want. we've got michael calling from nevada. You're on free talk live. Hello michael hello thank you for listening to buy call. Certain i would. I have the solution for the military for the transient problem. That's facing them now. What is the problem. Pardon what's the problem just to be clear. The problem is how to handle it like on a ship navy ship. You got transgenders. They wouldn't know what shower to go in. Was it the men's or the women's and there would be mixed genders shower as martin. I would say probably be whatever gender. They identify michael's Solution what do you think should happen. Okay that's solution. Should be the report from the wrong attitude. It should be that they should be elevated to a premier status and have their own core because they elevated about that of the marine corps even then they shall be part of the first to attack the enemy in case of combat. And that's always the problem. See i disagree. I liked the old policy. I think that america's gays are too precious to risk in combat and. I think that they should be carefully. Herman alley band. I'm lying. i don't think that you know. I kind of like robert heinlein solution and that is where a military unit and we deal with some things that most people don't deal with so they had a single shower room and men and women used together and it didn't matter and you got you got used to it and they had sufficient esprit de corps that if you tried to touch somebody who didn't want you touching them the other people in your unit would kill you and that solve that problem I didn't understand what i'm saying. When they explain it when transgenders a part of the first wave to attack the military all of a sudden they will decide whether it be male or female if they really are a male. They'll say well look. I don't wanna be the chris way to attack the enemy. So i'm going back to what i'm originally was say. Yeah i so you you know you wanna put them in a very stressful situation in the belief that there are no well. Now i'm a diff- they joined the military because they're willing to fight and risk their lives than like somebody who is really gung ho might say. Well i'm going to be transgender. So i can go in the first wave so it might push people both ways. That's no. I don't i don't agree with your with your solution. I don't think it's going to work. So i think one. I think it's just to stop worrying about gender at all the military in the military. Yes i'm going to affirm what nobody saying here. I when i was fifteen is when the trade towers were attacked and i was fed the propaganda. I believed the lies. And when i went to enlist into the marine corps i scored high enough on the atp tour. I did not have to be infantry. But i believed in it so much that i selected to be infantry because i wanted to be on the frontlines fighting so all you gotta do. Their is create an incentive for psychopaths wig on right. Put me on the front lines. Maybe you'll have clinger's being clinger's for the opposite reason. If you remember clean for match we understood you michael now. I have a question for you. You do sound on the The upper side of your years. How old are ya. Oh eighty to eighty two. So i would like to ask the question Nobody that you were sort of asking about this This hug tent situation. If you're you go ahead. I didn't ask any questions about a hug. And we're gonna ask you a question about it. Yeah so were you listening when we were talking about the hug. Tent valley was trying to get my phone number to call you. Okay because i know you only allow shotguns. And i wanted to do away with the superficial mice. A-this that's good. It's always good to do away with that. I support that so so there's a situation where certain elderly folks in your age range are being cal. Captain these elderly homes and they're being told that they're not allowed to have physical contact with their loved ones if you were in a situation like that at age eighty two of quote unquote due to cove it. That's the excuse for all this and your grandkids or your son or daughter. your loved ones. Your family members wanted to come visit you and you had the choice to actually hug them to actually be able to touch them or to go into this hug tent where there would be a large sheet of plastic in between you and then try to have some sort of an awkward hug with plastic sheet sheets and plastic sleeves on your arms. What would your choice be. My choice would be that grandparents should not be separated at all in the rest of the family because they can baby set their family and let the two young couples go on and dances and movies and so on and they can baby sit the grandkids for free. And they'd love to do that and it wouldn't cost them anything. And that's what primitive cultures through such as in mexico and china and other nations america is unique state separate the grandparents from their family and isolate them in a home. That's the worst thing that can do psychological so just to be clear you would support actually giving a real hug to your grandchildren and your children. You wouldn't want to be hidden behind some curtain. Is that right. That's correct very good. Mike you Six zero three two eight three sixty one sixty is our number. You can bring up what you want. Mike is in maine mike. You're on free talk. Live go ahead. yeah it's interesting. You bring up the dollars with my eighty two year old father today really game. Can i gave my mother and hug a real hug. A real hug high and they weren't afraid of you know it's out of control. Hang on mike. I want to bring you back to your calling for different reasons. 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We're going to bring mike back on the air here. I know he was calling about a different reason. I wanna make sure you had a chance to get his thoughts out. So go ahead mike. Well you guys doing a great job. We appreciate it. Thank you know. We're talking about the media. And how they all say the same exact words every day and it goes back to the council on foreign relations. I i used to go. Look at the rush. Russia on the council on violations. Look at the members who would you say there. See all the. Ceo's the mainstream media all the members of the know multinational corporations that have profited from these illegitimate never ending wars. Living in for a long time and rockefeller david rockefeller. I'll never forget when i saw him say. He thanked the media for forty years of silence with regard to the new world order while the rockefeller foundation so much. Your son is not everyone. Who's in the club as a george. Carlin's club yeah. Yeah i mean maintenance. You i don't know if you've ever heard of norman dodd. No he was. He was interviewed by Griffin was put in charge. Of the reese commission least commission was put. He was put in charge of investigating the carnegie foundation. Pre world war one. This is just like the sixty seventies when he when he this investigation was going on so he went to enter the kind of foundation asked him for the minutes of the meetings pre world war one and in those minutes of the meetings they they were trying to figure out the best way to change the minds of the men in the united states and they came to the conclusion that the best way would be through war you know. Nineteen thirteen was federal reserve. Was put into place in. Nineteen fourteen was the beginning of world. War one and Then they needed a stable of historians to keep the men the people in this country in the postwar mentality in the way they did that they put the rockefeller foundation in charge of this and they couldn't find any american history professors sign on so they went over to england and they went to europe and they found you know oxford and yale all about war. Now hold on before you go on when you say the post war mentality. What is that. Well they talk about shock and awe remember. These guys are young. you may not know. I remember shocking off from gulf war. One am gulf war to in shock and awe. I mean this. It's all this post. what do they call it now. Ptsd used to be called something else. You know shells office room. War has enormous psychological effect on. Everybody involved sure my family's been in my family came here in sixteen fifty one. We've been in every war in war in america rains. We all lose the only not. You gotta break the cycle. It's it's there are no victories. No losses the bankers when the military industrial complex loses yep Wins the people who wall street and c. I a. r. one Wall street and c. See a. a o. One the dulles brothers heavily involved in the c. i. a. early on where were the the biggest most powerful wall street attorneys in the united states. We'll come back around to what you were saying before about. The was it the. Cf are try. Yeah council for foreign relations. I get these media. People that are there and these are the people who are propagating the war whether it be george w bush or barack obama or whoever it is we're talking about that happens to be you know leading the troops. They're the ones leading the propaganda in the mainstream media and they want people to believe in war even though as you put it mike It's a loser. I mean wars always a loser because it's always the poor people that are the ones that are piling up. You know as the bodies and those those people. Don't get jack from from this. It's their lives and interesting with with tom when he get in and they deprived defies a court with that with that fraudulent documents. They got from christopher steele my six christopher steele and he was in the investigation they went through. They found that he was in communications with the President of the brookings institute at the time was strobe talbott. If you look up strobe talbott. President of the brookings institute is called is nation states in the next century will become obsolete. It's his job to make sure this happens within his lifetime. Well that sounds great. What was he suggesting would replace them. Hopefully nothing well this is just.

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So the voice you just heard is one third of shots and thoughts. Podcast one third of my other podcasts. Read it on waikiki. And if requires a third podcast not even the vendors will be able to stop this man. Please welcome my good friend shawn. Salvino what is going on buddy. Too much ga-. I'm excited to be one with fred. Finally once and for all yeah. It's been a while. I mean have you on for a while. Just haven't haven't matched up. So i'm glad to have you on for this episode for share thankful to be on you so sean before we get started i have to ask you. How do you feel about murder. And more specifically mutilation. What are your feelings on that all around bad not good stuff but i guess you know i'm not overly sensitive to it but in the grand scheme of things now not good stuff not a fan but you. You won't shy away if it's presented to. Yeah exactly my wife. Watches way too. Many murderer shows murder forecast for me to be a week to it. I guess interesting. May maybe you should just be always looking over your shoulders. Then because she knows everything like how to hide a body basically pretty terrifying she says a lot of like you know if if one of us dies and then goes on wait a second year. You know what i'm sharpening the knife plotting my motor. Well i hope She waits at least an hour for us to finish this episode before she does that because because in today's episode of the let's start cult. Podcast we will be covering the story of the ripper crew. A group who terrorize chicago with a series of abductions and horrific killings between nineteen eighty one and nineteen eighty-two later it would be revealed that they would eat amputated breasts of their victim as part of their sickening satanic rituals. They may have committed these horrific murders but one of the cult members has since been released from prison. Even their leader will be eligible for parole in a few years time. Despite the authorities describing him as worse than the infamous charles manson. So sean have you ever heard of the ripper crew also known as the chicago rippers. Know holy. shit. That sounds like a comic book like a batman gang villain. Yeah that's that's a very good description. It sounds awful. Definitely buckle up because this one's starts dark and gets even darker as we go so definitely trigger warning for anyone who needs that This episode does get extremely graphic. Unfortunately sean you are stuck here so you can't go anywhere me. Are you ready to jump into the ripper crew. I guess have to be now after that warning i never. I didn't tell you what it was going to be about. But this is payback for the smut. You made me read on reddit on wicky really pair. Yeah yeah all right. The recruit is widely regarded as one of the most prolific serial killers in american history. But despite this notoriety not much is actually known about the early years of the group and its four members. Robin gach edwards spitzer andrew co corales and thomas co corrales. Those are the four members what has been disclosed to the public. Though is that robin gets the group's leader had been arrested sometime in nineteen seventy nine and charged with contributing to the sexual delinquency of a fourteen year. Old girl so starting off. Oh i mean like. I said start start gets worse if that's possible but this wasn't his first brush with the sexual related events as a teenager gets had also been accused by his family members of molesting his own sister. Yes that's that's an alabama shit. I don't know what he's doing in chicago. Walk from texas. I didn't wanna say deep south shit because we don't do that suspect alabama big alabama vibes. No disrespect yeah. That's like the middle of the country stuff so in a bid to cure him of this quote unquote sickness. His parents sent him to live with his grandmother but their efforts were in vain. He continued to exhibit other disturbing behaviors throughout the years with his wife even admitting that he loved to slice her breasts whenever they had sex. Oh he had a wife. Well that is on alone fascinating like what kind of person would be with someone like that is my first question after the first light like there's a probably naga. Yeah i mean. I guess there is like the bedia semnan crew. That's part of that. But that's the extreme end of it. Maybe but this is This is a king that definitely comes back later on. And i'm not sure what is Obsession with breasts are but they definitely Play a huge part in the killings but we will get to that at some point during his life gets found employment at pd 'em contractors construction business established in one thousand nine hundred seventy one by the notorious serial killer and rapist. John wayne casey known as the cla- killer clown he to terrorize the state of illinois. From nineteen seventy two to nineteen seventy eight and was eventually found to have brutally murdered more than thirty people. If you haven't checked out terrible people doing terrible things episode on john wayne gacy. They cover all his terribleness but it is kind of crazy that This serial killer worked for another serial killer and kind of lucky for him because he was younger at this point which john wayne gracie preyed on younger boys. So i mean if we're thinking like dexter it's too bad this serial killer didn't take this serial killer you know what i mean or yeah man out of all thirty innocent children. He killed the at least the future. Serial killer. I don't know maybe he was grooming him to become a better serial killer. Who knows 'cause definitely because that it isn't known exactly how gets met edwards spitzer and the co corrales brothers andrew thomas however sometime in the early nineteen eighties. The four began to spending time together with gets becoming the de facto leader of their group. Thanks to his innate charisma and authoritative personality. So he's basically the john of our group. Sean let draw parallels between us. Yeah okay that's fair. That's the four them would all hang out together at his house waiting until his wife left for work before heading up to the addict which they referred to as the satanic chapel dark and lit only by handles the. Yeah it's par for the course so far dark and lit only by candle light the room featured in alter draped in red cloth as well as six red and black crosses that had been haphazardly painted on the wall spread through and the copa alice. Brothers co corrales. Brothers believed that gets possessed supernatural powers which you used to control others both physically and mentally. They were convinced. The sphere of influence include them however they welcomed this idea thinking that this gave meaning to their lives and a sense of purpose. Unfortunately they believe that this purpose involve them committing a series of horrific murders Sorry yeah no that's right. They believe that this purpose involve them committing a series of horrific murders. Yeah so it's kind of weird. They're kind of weird. They're like we think he's controlling us. But we're cool with it. We're cool anything else. Where do you find the these. Just clueless idiots. Yeah be rude. Because i mean mental health and whatnot but jesus christ people. Yeah that's fair that's fair. They're probably assholes for sure. Yeah yeah yeah. I don't know where you find people like this. I mean once you find the one brother. Maybe it's just easier. The other brother just falls along but you really only finding two and then the other follows on june. First nineteen eighty-one detectives arrived at van winkle motel in villa park illinois after receiving a call about a foul odor coming from behind the lot they ventured into the area expecting to find a dead deer but encountering a decomposing body instead. It was clear that it had been there for some time. With maggots and wildlife producing it to mostly bone and a few pieces of flesh still clinging onto them. Despite the body's destroyed state the authorities were able to conclude that the it had been a murder victim due to the pair of handcuffs wrapped around its wrists as well as a gag crammed in. Its mouth would horrified. The most though is the fact that the corpse was missing. It's left breast which implied a sexually motivated killing. So there's the breast thing again. And as i said it's gonna come up many times. This was perfectly in line with the place where it had been discovered. Since the rip van winkle motel was known for being a stopover where people could enjoy quick bouts of drugs and sex. And i wonder if they work that into their ad campaign. You know like do you love drugs. Do you want to cheat on your wife will then come down to the van winkle motel we got the perfect way hookers may need to dispose of a body. It will down at the rip van winkle motel. We don't report bodies until they are nearly decomposed. How did that just a little bit of flesh. How long was that body there. It would write science. But i would imagine yeah. I should've looked that up. But i would. I would hazard to guess be at least a few weeks if not months. Which is you think it would start smelling before then. I don't know like you'd like to a couple of days. I would imagine a dead body is yeah. I guess the clientele for that motel. We're not high class. There were like used to the smell. Maybe too worried about bad smells there. I guess yeah. They're cheating on their wives and doing cocaine off hookers. So what do they care. They're using digital and dental records. The authorities were able to identify the body as that of twenty eight year. Old prostitute named linda sutton who had been abducted ten days earlier from a chicago suburb located nearby. When pete seek men the local coroner performed an autopsy on air. He found that she had been gang-raped sodomise stabbed multiple times and had her left breast cut off shortly before her death. Yeah i. I'm glad i gave a trigger warning at the beginning of this because definitely is not. It's not a light up so you are a strong guy to be doing multiple episodes of the stuff man. This is a dark. yeah To be fair most cults. Aren't this dirk. The murder called get pretty dark. That's where martyr. This is due to her brutalized state. The police were more than motivated to find her killers less they strike again however their efforts amounted to nothing and after a few weeks passed with nothing to show for it. They were forced to let the sutton case go cold. The next several months passed without any new victims turning up which led authorities to hope that the killers behind her brutal death had stopped which is great police work. Just cross your fingers and they stopped. Please don't do it again sometime in early. One thousand nine hundred to a woman named cynthia smith was abducted and slashed but ultimately managed to free herself when she filed a report. The police considered her as a lucky second victim of those behind the sutton murders a year earlier but with neither evidence nor solid leads their investigation once again led nowhere. Unfortunately for the police smith would be the only woman that ear who was lucky enough to escape from her abductors. That is weirdly worded but she was. She was lucky enough to escape but for the police. It was unfortunate because she was the only one to escape. The next few people do not escape. Yeah i wasn't being like unfortunately for the police. I don't blame. Everybody does fred. I think i'm not rooting for the killers. And this was not no no on february. Twelve nine hundred eighty to a car belonging to a cocktail waitress was found abandoned on the side of the road with his gas gauge empty. And her keys still in the ignition soon. Afterwards her naked body was discovered along the same road to the corner. Later ruled that. Like sutton she too had been mutilated tortured and raped before being killed a few days. After this hor horrific discovery another body was found in the area. This time it was a hispanic woman who's breast showed signs of being savagely bitten. Yeah and Yes someone also masturbated over her corpse which authorities to theorize the string of abductions and murders so far had been sexually motivated. Which is yeah. I think after the first one where it was like she was raped. I think that would be a yes. Levino their time crest they masturbated. Yeah that's definitely sexual now. Before i dunno i thought it was just some. I don't know. I don't know where to take this hour man as they didn't have any any information like oh yeah for sure it's now we know it's a bank robbery. Gone wrong Yep however their investigation only ramped up when the fourth victim was discovered twenty one year old lorraine borowitz ski. Who went by the nickname. Laurie had last been seen on the morning of may fifteenth nineteen eighty two walking from her apartment at elmhurst gardens to the remax office where she worked on saint charles road boss. Donald derived there a few moments later. He noticed that a pair of woman's shoes. Cosmetics and keychain have been dumped unceremoniously on the sidewalk in front of the office upon realizing the items belonged to one of his employees. He immediately called the police and asked for help in search for or whisky. Abullah warning flag was sent But to no avail the young woman had seemingly vanished without a trace four months later on october tenth. Nineteen eighty two hunters. Walking through claritin hill cemetery spotted a corpse lying. In the thick with a few articles of clothing scattered nearby. The victim was identified as laurie or whiskey. An autopsy. your later revealed that bore whiskey had been repeatedly tortured and raped before being killed with an axe body bore signs of savage beatings and the coroner also determined that some point during her captivity wire had been wrapped tightly around her breast in fact it had been put on so tightly that ended up cutting off the entire breast and objects were later inserted into the gaping wound. Who are getting out of jail. One of them is Right now once i already. Yeah ones getting out soon. The leader of this bullshit which is just insane. We'll get to the trials later but yeah they do some horrific terrible terrible things like his very few things that are darker than this. Yeah i mean. I'm all for re you know using jail as a rehabilitation you know re correction type deal now. People can change. But like what did you say. Seventeen nineteen of these how how eighteen i mean how is that life i mean. I'm sure we're about ended this good news gracious. Yeah you think this is what those charges are made for. People like this guy you could maybe make the argument and like i said we'll get to the trial but you could maybe make the argument for the followers to be a little more lenient. But still definitely their lifetime being in jail by The the the main guy should definitely be locked away for many many lifetimes. I think yes so. That was a short break. Now we're getting back to the the terrible things because gorski had been found four months after her objection the authorities theorized that after she was killed her captors for some unknown reason decided to keep her corks with them before dumping it at the cemetery. This was corroborated by families claims that they had thoroughly searched the area before the hunters made the gruesome discovery on september thirtieth nineteen eighty to a few days before whiskies body was found. Another body of the murdered. Young woman was earth in a field. In a nearby town of south barrington. She was identified as thirty year. Old shoe store shoe mac. An immigrant from hong kong who had disappeared on the night of may twenty ninth nineteen eighty-two after being dropped off by her brother he had last seen her at the barrington and irving park roads in hanover park. The same area where her body would be found a few months later the autopsy determined that she had died from a fractured skull however with her body was in such a destroyed state that her sister ling was only able to identify her by her clothes. She was wearing like. That's that's crazy like and and the first one they can only identifier by your teeth. Now that was more due to composition. But still it's just the abuse that they do these bodies Just horrific. Yeah yeah throat. Nineteen eighty two. The death toll steadily rose sending waves of tear anxiety throughout the entire state of illinois public. Spheres were exacerbated by the lack of developments in the murder investigations. Since the bodies were discovered in severely mutilated states fingerprints and other kinds of genetic samples often can be obtained from them but on june thirteenth nineteen eighty to a few weeks after a schumacher disappeared. A prostitute name. Angel york was propositioned by a man who call themselves john. It's john john damn it. No he wouldn't have been alive back then he's he's not that old upon getting into his van. She was attacked by his two friends. Who had hidden in the backseat. They handcuffed vehicles inside. Handed her a knife and forced her to make cuts up on her own breasts. Amend weren't satisfied with the wounds that she made though and one of them took back the knife and gave her a much deeper slashes. Jesus oh god. I almost want to skip this next part a big trigger winning After masturbating into the gashes he duct tape. It shut almost angel out of the van dumping on the street. She so i mean that is a terrible thing to happen but it is. I'm glad that she managed to escape. You know what i mean so she she lived yeah. They dumped her out of the on the on the streets and she actually led to the nearby police station where she told them about the experience. The authorities theorize that are abductors. Were the ones leaving. A trail of brutally murdered young women across the city. Angel can remember any specific details about the men and the van because of this the trail once again went cold. godly man. Yeah it is too bad like i mean. You can't blame her. Obviously she's traumatized but it is too bad she identify anything because it could eventually stopped a few a few more things in captured them on a little bit earlier but dna testing inc. Until i guess yeah. Maybe late eighties. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure on that but yeah definitely not around this time. Which is also unfortunate. Yeah this is kind of why you see like serial killers in this time period because it was so hard to catch them back in the day. Yeah the trail dry so quickly yes will exactly and like and if you think about it like this is only between eighty one and eighty two so within this two year span like all. This is happening. Which is just insane so quick on august. Twenty eighth nineteen eighty-two several weeks before the bodies of shoe mac and laurie baratz endure ski were discovered. The police came across. The remains of a woman named sandra delaware whose body had been dumped under the fullerton avenue bridge on the north branch of the chicago river. Delaware was found with her wrists bound. Together behind your back. Although this time the perpetrators had used shoestrings. They had also stabbed her multiple times before strangling her death with her own bra. Like the others. Her left breast was amputated as well. So i wonder if it's like i don't know i don't know much about satanic rituals because they are panic cult to be. Yeah i don't know the left breast has something to do with that but it seems to be. That's the one they focus the most on. Yeah yeah i have no idea. Oh you're not a united satanic. Lieutenant huge i myself i thought. Wwe and satanism went together right. Probably definitely vince mcmahon. Satanism good again. I wouldn't doubt yes. I don't know but the left breast seems to be the focus even though they do on some occasions both but yeah fucked up either way. We'll continue on on like the other victims. Though the coroner determined that delaware had been killed only six hours before body was found. This was in stark contrast to shoe board ski whose corpses had been kept by their abductors for months after their deaths. The following months after the discovery of delaware's body another dead and mutilated woman was unearthed by authorities a marketing executive from broadway illinois thirty year. Old rose back. Davis was found on september eighth nineteen eighty-two underneath a sterile of three storey apartment building when the police came across the remains they found the corpse naked and lying on its back located close by where sweater and a pair of blue quarter i- slacks that those close to davis identified as belonging to hers the autopsy determined that davis had been repeatedly stabbed in raped before being strangled with a black sock. Her face had been beaten up beyond recognition. While stomach showed numerous small punctures like the other victims her breasts. It also been cutting mutilated. So we'll see married this whole time. He was killing people and like sliced up her breasts. While you know they were intimate like yes. It was the white the police and be like kind of weird but my does something sort of similar. I believe she stays with them. I don't i don't exactly know why like how you would not be able to unless she was in on. Maybe who knows. i mean. 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It's time to move on time to get going. So we're getting we're getting into the Not the final victim but an interesting victim anyway. Now we'll they're all interesting endure own different ways. The next victim was found a few weeks afterwards. This time it was eighteen year old. Prostitute beverly washington who had been dumped by the railroad track that lay near chicago humboldt park unlike the other victims though the passer by who discovered her noted that she was still breathing albeit barely. Washington survived bureau deal but the injuries that she'd been left with were horrific including amputated left bresser merely slash right breast and multiple stab wounds despite the torture that she'd been subjected to washington was able to remember several important details better doctors and their car. According to an article titled the ripper crew satanic cannibal cult murders quote. A red dodge van with tinted windows had pulled up to beverly and asked how much for a date when the driver offered her more than she was asking for she became nervous a gun the van anyways she told the cops all the details but she could remember including the feathers hanging from the rear view mirror by roach. Clip driver was a slender white man about twenty five years old during her attack. He wore a flannel shirt square. Toed boots she said he had greasy brown hair and a mustache end quote. She's remembering oh one hundred percent and like just surviving that deal. Yeah very very strong of her to to to be able to even elect yeah and stay conscious the whole time and and like put it all under memory. Kudos to her for sure. Beverly said that she was made to get in the back of the van which could only be accessed through a hinged plywood door. Very sketchy already there. He handcuffed her and forced her to perform oral sex on him. Afterwards she said quote then he raped me and shove some pills into my mouth and maybe wash them down with soda pop. I blacked out. And the next thing i remember was i was in the hospital. End quote washington had only survived because their abductors thought she was dead. Thanks to her account. The authorities were finally able to attain a description of the killers and their vehicle. None of the investigators knew it yet but the man that washington described was robbing Well washington was cooperating with police officers. Get in the rest of the ripper crew. Busy carrying out another murder. This time was different though because the victim was a local drug dealer name rafael toronto. Whom they shot will he was inside a phone booth. By this time the rip recruits started to take murder-for-hire contracts and terada was there. I hit however they wouldn't last very long in this line of work because the police were closing in on them all in all between one thousand nine hundred eighty one thousand nine hundred eighty two. The ripper crew abducted a total of eighteen women. Six of whom were eventually found. Dead mutilated bodies. Amputated left breasts. This information have been kept from the public though since the police believe that it would be proved to be useful For future interogations. They couldn't have been more right so Very interesting turn of the end. They're they're like we're going to be hitman now after Abducting innocent women were going to be a trait the these colts or these killers. Just get a little bit too cocky and then a major fuck ups towards the end. Well yeah i think. That's a lot of murderers right. They they either get. I don't know if it's nervous or they get too confident and if they think they can Handle more than they actually can. Which is definitely what happens here. Yeah for sure armed. With washington's information the authorities headed by detective warn will will cause. Locos sure that we'll go with close enough ww. He's like. he's like peter parker perfect. Yeah they began to talking to you. Prostitutes hanging out in the chicago. Cicero avenue hoping that one of them knew something this paid off and they're able to locate the red van which had been parked in nearby. North central avenue sitting behind the wheel was red. Haired man that didn't fit washington's description of her abductor at all the interior of the vehicle though matched her account right down to the carpeted floors and the electrical wiring running along its walls upon questioning the driver. Police officer learned that his name was edward spritzers and the van belong to his boss. Robin gach who owned a business called arn our electrical company spitzer also told them that. He was headed to an apartment where he had been hired to remodel. He allowed the police officers to follow him to the site and once they're called gets to come over so that he to be interviewed when catch walked out of the apartment unit authorities were so shocked to see that he completely fit washington description of almost killer. He was even wearing the same shirt and boots that she had claimed to have seen him in so she nailed it like with the with the description perfect however the police officers were still surprised that he seemed calm and composed while talking to them which led them to consider if it had been a mix up of course. They didn't know that they just come face to face with a psychopath. Which is very you hear that a lot when like psychopaths when confronted with information like this. They're always like they think they can always get out of it because they think they know better than everyone just whereas normal. Yeah whereas normal people. Like like i'd be freaking out. It'd be like shit like just sweat. Even if i'm innocent. I'm like oh man. I mean i've i've not committed crimes and i would not be comfortable talking to the cops like outside of my one hundred. You see a cup drive by you. And you're like hands ten forty we're One under the speed limit like it's so that's psychopath would not do any of that Gets was ordered to go to the fifth district police station for further questioning to which he agreed during his interviews. Several police officers searched as van and found a sedative tablet which matched the description of the tablet. That washington said. She had been forced to swallow get relaxed and easy going during his initial interview. But when he was asked to come back a few weeks later for a follow up his demeanor had changed this time he was accompanied by a lawyer and appeared. More guarded otas answers. Unfortunately for him. Edward spencer hadn't been as composed during his interview after being interrogated for hours. He broke down and confessed to the murders writing a seventy eight page statement that he was the designated driver right designated. Yeah right. I didn't do anything i just drove What do you want to know about me driving. Yeah he he also said that would have sex with the process. They abducted before slicing off their breasts and bringing it back with him into the vehicle he also talked about an incident wearing get had viciously beat a woman to death with a hammer resulting in sight so gruesome that spitzer admitted to violently throwing up after So according to spitzer he was terrified of his blood. Less supernatural powers which is why he agreed to have sex with a gaping chest wound of their victims. Even if doing so disgusted him which i don't know if that's Don't act good while. I don't know if that's good to cover you know what i mean like. I only did it. Because i was scared of him. That's uh that's another level you still didn't did. Yeah it like nazis still nazis. You know what i mean. They were falling apart. They took it to extremes. I knew what they were doing. Yeah yeah in. All edwards brisard confessed to being involved in seven different murders. The authorities used his statement to confront catch however he denied all the allegations against him to scare him into confessing. He was made to watch part of the spritzers interrogation but didn't seem phased by it. At all spread on the other hand had a more visceral reaction to seeing get quote. He turned white as a ghost and suddenly changed his story. He said they had never killed. Anyone spreads her started talking real fast and trying to take back his confession. When pressed by police spitzer said that his girlfriend's brother andrew coca cola corrales killed all those women and quote so he basically when he saw gets confirmed completely. Did a one eighty. Like no i'm just kidding He didn't he didn't kill anyone like what a coward. The pages prior that. I admitted to everything. I just made up seventy ages of of story. None of that. It's all you like. You like my My horror horror book. That i'm reading. It's i know it. Has everyone's name in it. But i just use them for inspiration. That's it rob. Rob rid nothing. It was this other guy andrew. You he did it all. Yeah what a coward to one eighty but given this retraction and gets his refusal to admit anything. The police were forced to let them go. They decided to look into his background in the hopes of discovering something that would tie him to the murders after weeks of interviewing his personal acquaintances and tracing his movements for the past few months. They managed to find several damning links. Authorities discovered that in one thousand nine hundred. Eighty one gets checked into the band winkle motel for several months the three rooms next to his were also rented by edwards bedser and the co corral brothers andrew and thomas that was the year that the first murder victim in the sutton was found and her body had been dumped in the lot behind the van winkle motel which i mean as a murderer like at least trying to further away. You know what i mean like. Try the hundred meters sir. That's good yeah. That's a good enough spot. They'll never catch me return scene of the crime. You can't return to this. You know crime if you've never left it it's genius. Andrew andrew corrales was immediately brought in for questioning especially since spitzer had alleged that he was the one who committed the murders. It didn't take long for him to break. And the police noted that his confession included details about the victims that hadn't been disclosed to the public the information he gave also eerily similar to the coroner's reports which cemented their belief that he had been involved in the deductions and killings co. Kerala's told the authorities that he made use of piano wire cut off the women's breasts. That wasn't the most disturbing part of his confession. Though according to him all four members of the ripper crew would take turns masturbating into the amputated breasts before eating parts of them during their tank rituals engages addict. God yeah so these guys were fucked. Fuck is man. Yeah you ever heard that Game what is it. The cracker game. Frat boys play. No okay. we won't even go there then. If you're interested in it reminds me of that but they all eat it instead of just one person that gives you a hint as to what the cracker in total andrew corollas admitted that to be involved in eighteen murders including that of rose davis's and laurie berezovsky's he also described the killings of sandra delaware in sickening detail. I will not going to the details. Because i am tired of going into these Blame you one bit. Yeah andrew's brother. Thomas was also brought in for questioning upon learning that he failed the polygraph test. He broke down admitted to everything even confessing that they had brought most of the victims to their tanic chapel in his home in order to rape torture and murder them e claimed that they used a variety of knives ice picks to mutilate their bodies and referred to their practice of eating parts of the amputated breasts as taking communion so now kind of like a cracker right definitely. God is where we stand. Yeah yeah i've never. I've never been to a church like that but We'll we'll move on He also told the authorities that would keep the remains of each breast in a special box once when he looked inside. Thomas coca cola's counted. Fifteen of them in total thomas kerala's admitted to being involved in three murders including that of laurie bore riske's needless to say the investigators were horrified and sickened by the confessions that they have heard by the three men elmhurst police. Detective john miller even said quote. I've done many homicide cases. And i've never heard anything so horrendous. In my life. Thomas cockerels talked about raping the women stabbing the women having sex with the knife wounds and cutting their breasts off to leave what he called. Robbins mark and quote dark and just disgusting like imagine being a police detective for a major city. And he's saying this is the worst thing he's ever seen like that is saying something fisher. Yeah especially chicago. Right was chicago was yet yet. Not too much not do Long before that. I've been around ten years before that. So yeah i don't know what the what what's in the water there. But they cleaned it up since since the eighties. Only armed with these confessions. The authorities executed a search warrant on the homes of all four members of the ripper crew inside his house. They discovered the satanic chapel as well as the rifle that killed rafael toronto. Their final murder victim throughout the investigation gets maintained his innocence in claim that he had neither harmed the women nor force spread sir and co corrales brothers to do so an attempt to avoid going to trial. He declared himself insane but was deemed competent enough by numerous medical professionals who evaluated his mental state. I don't know probably insane. But still i don't know if that gives you a free pass. Yeah vows a mental expert. I'd be like oh no. He's definitely saying fuck this guy true true to be like no. You're you're not getting into this one you fucking piece of shit. You exactly gives us first. Trial ended in a mistrial his second one which began on september twentieth. Nineteen eighty-three wasn't as successful. Either spencer in the coca. Cola's brothers recanted their confession and get who took the witness stand in. His defense insisted that he was innocent. Since nobody testified against gets the jury was unable to find him guilty of the brutal killings carried out between one thousand nine hundred and eighty two instead he was only convicted of rape and battery and attempted murder of beverly washington for it. She was sentenced to one hundred and twenty years in prison. Robin gets is currently incarcerated in maynard correctional center in chester illinois. He will be eligible for parole in twenty forty two. I guess not soon like soon. Relatively twenty years meanwhile. Thomas corrales was convicted of rape and murder of laurie risky for which he was sentenced to life in prison. The prosecution had initially called for the death penalty. But the dupage county judge decided to throw this in one thousand nine hundred. Sixty illinois appeals court reversed. Thomas cockerels guilty verdict citing legal errors in his original trial. He was granted a new trial and pled guilty to the rudder of laurie Risky for ritchie received. Seventy years prison sentence in twenty seventeen. Thomas co corrales came up for parole to force them to stay behind bars. Authorities tried to have him committed as a sexual violent person inside the various murders that he participated in including that of shoe. Max whom he admitted to raping. However the psychiatrist who evaluated. Thomas determined that he wasn't sexually violent despite widespread criticism. He was released from prison in march. Two thousand nineteen after serving only half his sentence so once one turn There were a few multiple multiple psychiatrists. Thomas corrales must register as a sex offender as long as he's living in illinois. he's currently resides in the city of aurora located a few miles west of chicago. I i like to say the city. Just so everyone knows. And that city where he is to staff a heads up if anyone listening from their meanwhile his brother andrew recanted his earlier confession in which he admitted to beating rose back davis to death with the hatchet despite his claims though. The jury after three hour deliberation found him guilty of raping and murdering the young woman and sentenced him with the death penalty. The next few years saw andrew co corrales appealing several times. All of which were were denied. He also claimed to have been suffering from a schizophrenic break at the time of davis's murder and blamed his original defense attorney for failing to enter a plea of not guilty. By reason of insanity the greek orthodox church which the coca corrales brothers were part of even became involved in an effort to save andrew from the death penalty. All of these efforts thankfully failed and he was administered with illegal injection on march seventeenth nineteen ninety nine at the age of thirty five and actually andrew corollas with the last inmate to be executed by the state of illinois is. Death came almost twelve years before governor pat quinn enacted legislation on march ninth two thousand eleven that abolished capital punishment which led him to commute the sentence of fifteen inmates on death row to life imprisonment without parole. So i don't know why andrew at the start of the stick because they all seem to do equally if not worse things. So i don't i don't really understand. But how do these thomas. But yeah andrew. They're like we can't have both brothers in prison so we're going to kill one and release the other. Yeah it makes no sense to me. I don't understand the prison system. But yeah now that i'm for capital punishment but if anyone deserved it it was these four yet. Don't really believe in tap punishment but it's like there should be a special place for just obviously e evil people the worst of the worst for sure pd. Had thomas has addresses just fully on wikipedia. Which makes me wanna go over there. And beat his beat his ass. Yeah i wonder how many times not that not that we're calling for any of this would cause issues do not yet these people. They are hopefully reformed. But salina's crazy that it just just wide open. Here's i guess they have to rate. Because they're he's he's a sex offender so he has to be on like you have to know where his addresses right. Yeah so and finally edwards spitzer on the other hand pleaded guilty to killing shoe mac. Sand delaware rose beck davis and rafael toronto. On april second nineteen eighty-four. He received a life sentence for each of the four murders. Two years later on february. Twenty fifth nineteen eighty-four spencer. Once again went on trial for the murder of linda. Sutton the first of the ripper crew victims. He was convicted of aggravated kidnapping and murder which he received the death penalty as well in two thousand. Three governor george ryan before leaving office granted edward spitzer. Clemency turned his death sentence to life imprisonment parole. So you got off on on that one as well but no role so he stuck in prison right. Oh yeah which is good. Yeah hundred percents but it is funny that he was like. Yeah the guy that s- on trial for five of the murders not andrew. He's like i'll let him off but not not the other. Yeah yeah we don't like that guy. Maybe he was. I don't know. I don't know why they picked on that guy. But yeah but to this day. Robin gets maintains his innocence claiming that he was never the leader of a satanic cult. And then he never participated in the brutal murders of at least six women can newsday that his his obsession with breasts was merely an inherited family trait and no way indicates that he was involved in the killings which is a weird. I love breasts. But that wasn't me i didn't do it. I inherited it. But it doesn't mean i'm involved in killing okay. That's that's a weird way to defend yourself but okay yeah. Once during an interview gets said quote. I don't only face the injustices but nightmares that follow. You have no idea the pain and hurt phase and feel every single day. I sit here and lose. Hope i'm not an angel. But i never intentionally hurt anyone unless it was to protect myself or my family. I could never live with the killing or knowing i was responsible for taking one's life end quote despite these claims though. Almost nobody believes that gets never played a part in the abductions and murders terrorized chicago and that is the end of the chicago ripper. Crew uplifting story rate have so many questions like jeopardy not find the boxes of women like the of fifteen breast in his satanic. Like did i all of that. For or i don't charge one one murder each and i'm like reminder eight early adult the murder will your yeah. Well they focused on the murderers because there. Yeah there was a few attempted ones. Yeah i i don't know if they found the breast boxes i'm calling it sake. Maybe destroyed it. I or aided they ate a lot of them. Remember that so Yeah i know you tried to suppress it. But i'll bring it back for you. And they had a whole satanic altar in there. The women had his wife said that he liked to cut her breasts while they had sex like. How does this man. You can think himself that he is innocent. These crimes. well this is the thing with like cult leaders right. They convince themselves crazy. Things like their jesus christ or innocent in this case. But it's just as wild as claiming to be jesus christ because you're definitely not you know what i mean. You're definitely one hundred percent guilty of all of you. did this. no questions asked so. Yeah i don't know if they found the actual parts in his house but they found like all the evidence that suggested that they did this in his house which means he definitely was not innocence. I don't know how he can convince himself of this. Yeah i don't know how these guys got out of this. All this. you know. Only one of them died. The other one has libation all be either better or life in prison without. Yeah it's the weirdest thing. The weirdest thing i mean it's all weird on but the weirdest thing it means they're just like one of you guys wanted. We need one death for all of these i. I just don't get how they went from. I know it's the whole trial thing and they'd be something was stronger than the other or they write stuff in the other cases and not this one but still it seems weird that they were able to get the death penalty for one and not all four or like. He couldn't just be put in jail with no parole like the rest of them. You know what i mean. And then robin only. It's attempted murder. Not first degree busy. Man was the match behind everything. Well a breast copyright. I'm going to make sure it's called breast box now. I won't do that. I guess because the other the other three or two claimed was the wasn't him after the fact so that they couldn't 'cause they wouldn't testify against him right so i guess that's why later than the one other one. The other one did because edward. I got the worst of it and then the other ones. Yeah he's in also in life without parole so robbins dealing with parole left which doesn't make any sense. He'll be eighty nine by the time he's released. So you know cross wise prac- no no you know what i hope. I hope on his day that they release him he gets out. He sees the sun and dies. You'll see that is a little bit of hope. You know what i mean. And then just gone doesn't have the it doesn't get satisfaction of living outside of bars. But that is the rip recruit sean but before we cap it off for today it is time for cult critique which is where we rate cult after we talked about it out of five stars just like you would on a yelp review or something like that so and and don't get too worried with the five stars. It's it's kind of arbitrary. You can even whatever you want as long as you give some some comments as to why you give those those stars so gone is is the shittiest of shit honestly. It's has gone either way so it is completely up to you. There's no there's no rules to this. Whatever you say. If you go five stars. I loved them five stars. I hate them. We will accept whatever you whatever you say. So at a five star sean. What will you rate them. And why i'll go five as good human beings. One has the absolute bottom feeders of this they get a they get a one. I'd only are. They pieces are shit. I guess kinda battled what they do. They attempted eighteen murders. Only were not successful on the majority of them and left a lot of evidence. I guess back then. That's not really stuff that they had to worry about. But you know criminals. They would've got caught like after the first instantly you just awful nipple batta what they do and yeah if i could give them negative stars i would they are. All people are not advocating finding andrew or doing anything or thomas is dead at rest in peace. We're not advocating finding communists but it is internet and that's you should find it. I'm not just the is out there. Just just thoughts towards. It isn't address so you can just hate mail. I'm sure yeah. Send an average dress put From his brother just to really fuck with them because that's what he deserves that. Yeah yeah that is low. But i approve of it. Yeah i gotta agree with sean. I think one-star is a great rating. They're not even a greek cult. If we're being honest so most costs start off good. These guys did not. So i'm gonna go with the one star as well for all the reasons you said. They are terrible human beings and they deserve life in prison. I think i think andrew got off easy for. We're really being reloaded i. I'm with you. i'm i think personally. I don't put a lot of thought into depth sentences and things like that. But i'm like life in seems much much worse than just a death injection. You know what i mean. Oh not try to these wrought in in prison forever. Oh yeah one hundred percent and like i mean there's something to save a but it's clear that with the with the quotes from robin. It's it's clear. He is not repented or anything to come to grips that he did. These things and i never will so. Those are the kind of people that i'm okay with leaving behind bars for life. The other people. It's unclear if they you know realize what they've done in tried to make amends we. I hope they have. I hope they are good people now and contribute to society. Because that is the idea. I guess of prison and trying to rehabilitate. Yeah yeah. I mean there's conversation to be had about whether americans just does that but we can only eat does not. There's no discussion needed. It does not turkey much men for the prophets. they're all four profit. Nothing's america like capitalism. So yeah like profit prisons. What is as Yeah basically as low as it gets but yeah so hopefully. Hopefully they are better people now. But i also am okay with them being behind bars for the rest of life because yeah. I don't think people should be roaming around. Thank you everyone for listening sean. Don't you tell people about shots and thoughts and if you want you can tell people about read it on wiki. I'm sure they've heard enough for me. But shots and thoughts share. Let's hear about it. Yeah what's up for head shots. Thoughts is a podcast. Comes out every monday. What we do is we learn something new every week and then we take shots of liquor and then we play drinking games that equal more shots of liquor person. Give a recap of what we just learned. Our tagline is the internet's only improv comedy. Game show involving shots liquor and d twenties so you just want to come learn about random staff and then also here the debauchery that happens with three plus shots of liquor Tune in at some thoughts were on all social media at smtp od. And if that's not really your vibe you can also find me on. Read on wicky with josh and his pretty much co host at this point. John what we do there. Is we learn about something new every week as well. but we use Reddit and wikipedia as our main sources of research so are things factual probably not but is it a good time hundred percent. Yes so yeah. You could check me out on both of those podcasts. They come out every. Monday and there are a whole lot of fun. Oh social media. You could find us at read it on wiki on social media alley. That was as good man. You've been practicing. Damn i've been trying. Yeah and actually. As i was thinking about this sean this episode perfectly ties into the episode john and iran on shots and thoughts about breasts and why nipples are not okay for women but are okay for men to expose. Where did that poorly but you you just we talked about. We had josh and john on shots on talked about when did nipples become sexualize. And you know whenever you first started mentioning this as like. Wow what a perfect. I n why they sexualize and then learning about who sexualize them probably worse in his. Yeah i did not clue into this until now so you are quicker than i am so yeah if you wanna go check every shots and thoughts. That's a good episode to hop into and then listen to their whole catalog. They've got a can hundreds of episodes. I don't know hundreds but hundred at least one hundred. Probably right we are somewhere in the seventies but it feels like a hundred Close close i mean glow. That's a lot of hours of content if you're looking for content so definitely check them out. They're great and funny. And i'm glad for having him on today and i'm gonna do my plugs so if you're loving this podcast be sure to give us a review. Tell your friends about it. If you want to support us go to our. Buy me a coffee page and become a member. If you wanna keep up to date with the podcast you can follow us on twitter and instagram matt. Let's underscore cult. You can follow our facebook page at facebook. Dot com slash. Let's started called pod or you can go to podcast and sign up for a newsletter. So thank you. Fred for listening. And thank you sean. For coming on today and talking about this horrific horrific thing definitely one of the most graphic. I've done so i appreciate you. Being offered as as revenge for the smut. 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Model, Actress and Loving Spirit Wendy Stuart Gets Mindless!

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Model, Actress and Loving Spirit Wendy Stuart Gets Mindless!

"Hey all walk into a mindless morning show special interview. Sit back and relax with your house. Josh l. o. Everybody welcome to the mindless morning show. We are here with wendy. Stewart kaplan who is the host of a podcast. If these walls could talk she has her own pandemic cooking show. She has done acting. She's done modeling. she has a. She's done a lot of awesome stuff so we are going to talk to her now. Wendy how are you. I am excellent. it's for me. It's the mindless evening show. Isn't it sears. Wealth drink to that. Please raise a glass for this evening. We're all having well. Thank you guys that you great intro. Yeah i mike. I've done it all and still doing it. All and this year this pandemic for me is just been unbelievable. It was like a burst open in a whole lot of that. I'd never would have delved into before because you know what that's what the pandemic pushed you to you either. Use it or lose it. And i you know a lot of people lost at the this year you know. I'm certainly not the same in new york city where where i live. We were one of the first places to get hit so none of us could really wrap our heads around what was happening. Initially honest to god up until they shut new york. I was riding on the subway packed wall to me meatball clueless. 'cause nobody was we weren't told anything march sixth. We started hearing about it right and then all of a sudden they were talking about. We're gonna shut new york down but you couldn't really understand what that meant so you guys connect to this every single night before they were shutting it down i went out. I was in every club you right. You would do same thing. A lot of my friends who performers you know at cabarets standup musicians and you want to support your friends and when they tell you that the very thing that you love doing is going to stop it makes you want to do it. More right up until they shut new york down. I was out and then march twelve is when they shut it down. And then it dawned on me that every single way ahead of earning a living or being had come to a crashing hall. Modeling acting theatre. Stand up comedy emceeing. Anything that i could think of it. I could do was no longer and you know i never had a chance in my lifetime. I never had a survival job. I've only ever been in the entertainment industry so all of a sudden it was like boom. You're in a parallel universe. And what are you going to do. It was so weird. So that was march. Twelfth and march thirteenth is when i was standing in my kitchen and my husband is videographer on our documentaries. And he's like what. What do you think we should do. We should do something. We're creative people. And i'm like i know we'll have his show. We'll have a cooking show and he said you don't cook. I said exactly. That's what makes it fun. Make you you get you totally. Get it right so i said i'll call it pandemic cooking with wendy. Sorry i had all this food. Delivered from freshdirect chai had him naked it. Because i thought okay. I have no idea what i'm doing. This is the perfect opportunity to. We have good good camera person and i love being in front of the cameras. So this'll be easy right. It came from freshdirect. It had the instructions. So the first thing that i made was called spatchcock chicken sport this this is like the and this is actually the name of this kind of chicken. It's a chicken when that kind of split it in half it comes not cooked. But it's kind of split in half and it's a little spread eagle. His legs are going out like a in avi and it came with little side things to cook with it had potatoes and vegetables and stuff and then he had these very hard potatoes and iman camera china. Make this dish and following the directions and the heart. Potatoes wouldn't cook it all. And i couldn't figure out what i was doing wrong. Well lo and behold holding them up to the camera and somebody puts the comments. Wendy those chestnuts. Mike goodness if you know something. I i realize like i'm like so domestic. I opened up my refrigerator. You're my vegetable ben and things like chestnuts. They last forever. They're still in there from a year ago. I should have a celebration with the jess nuts a year a year after the pandemic so that was my very first episode and my episodes i break them up short. They're like five minutes pieces because quite frankly everybody in their mother's got a cooking show out there and myself. What would be fun and easy for. Pardon the pun for people to digest. Well you know these segments so the first segment was broken into five minute pieces and it was about twenty minutes if you put it all together and that way i was just letting normal person and then it occurred to me wendy in real life. You're in clubs all the time you just up in costumes. You do all kinds of crazy. Things is a performer. Why are you looking like the girl next door. That's so nice. Oh so that's when. I really exploded. I've got closets. Will a costumes wigs. I can be any character. I want right. It was great. I am on my own kitchen. There's nobody stopping me. There's no casting director saying okay. Can you tone it down a little bit. scat it right. I didn't have now for the first time in my life. i could have a pink wigs false eyelashes. You're crazy off it. And so that was what i did and we are now. We launched episode one hundred three yesterday. Awesome one hundred and three episodes. I caught with great characters on the in the mint real need deep nitty gritty of this pandemic. When i was really losing it. I came up with a character called pandemic pam. She's a flight testing. Yeah senior channel. Like i seen all the thumbnails i saw has a flight attendant something for the party store. The halloween snore and it's got a pin and pin on it. Believe me there are people nowadays. Don't even know what ben am was. Okay it kind of reminded. Me of britney spears's only fit for for that one Music video and so. I thought that's you were going for him. First and then. I realize the rest of your videos. You have a totally different outfit every time that's exactly right and it's funny. You should reference britney spears thing. Because i wasn't trying to do that but when it came out when i was done shooting. That's what it reminded me of q but no is totally organic and the beauty of it. Was you know on that episode airlines who you know when you're like plastic dishes with aluminum. I think i've made like a chicken dish. Mac and cheese and then the following episode pandemic pam flew her her whole audience to india. So i came out. I had to indian dress and i'm like oh my god. It was so much fun. And i had my issues of conde nast traveler. They are because let's face it. He's in anywhere anymore. Right right. i tried to take the worst things of the pandemic and make them funny and initially when it did this show. There were people that didn't get it at all. I have a friend who's a very well known performer. remain a named who is a gourmet cook. And he wrote to me. He said wendy. Nobody is gonna watch a cooking show pandemic cooking with wendy and i said it's a joke orig- urology understand. Listen this is a storm like none of us have ever dealt with before you have to make it funny and the facts in new york city so many people with so many not where you are because i know gone shows and i tell people that i have a circle of twenty to france in eighteen of us had cova and that's not unusual and we hadn't even seen each other it was just everywhere in new york and thank god the people i know recovered but i got sick a week after i started filming the show with you know the fever. This is the best part. You'll understand sick humor. I lost my smell chased. Oh i was. He gonna thing for months. You didn't like smell or taste anything. I was making so other than like kind of trying to stick to the recipes. I don't know what that stuff tasted. Like and i didn't tell anybody what was going on with me to like. Probably the end of may when i told my viewers. Oh by the way. I had called and by the way i still can't smell or taste a thing and believe it or not you guys that lasted until october. So thank god it came back freaking out all right. Well you freak out because you go. There's a group by joined an international group of kovic responders that have lost their smell and taste there from all over the world and it's run by researchers and i would be an on line with people like in afghanistan or china like re very remote places with the exact same symptoms that i have is. What's scary is you think. Oh my god it's never coming back and then you read things like crosses the blood brain barrier and then you're like oh man this is like so awful but guess what it did. Come back stronger better faster. It makes you smash your food so much more doubt. They're given like uman taste buds. And let me tell you and to anyone who's listening. Don't take your taste. Buds for granted their precious. You know so over the summer started another podcast for the lgbtq community have very involved in fundraising. I help a run in. Lgbtq in the tri-state area traverse city. We started show called trae versity talk and what was so cool about that was as you know bringing people in from all over the country. What you know video podcasting does is it. Lets you go anywhere without ever leaving your computer and you you read about somebody and you can reach out to them. So that was cool. I had people on him in politics. Doctors are doing sexual reassignment surgeries. Just really interesting stopped. I started that show in july. With my co-host stephen bloomer teague and then in november. I was still feeling like there was a void. I had to fill keep in mind. We're having create a lot of our own stuff now right you get it so i started this show. If these walls could talk. I was at a restaurant in new york. That my friends. Arnaldo and stephen run. It's called punchy. And they've always been an incredible restaurant to showcase talent cabaret talent new york entertainers musician avant-garde things but they've been supportive of the arts community for forever and businesses in new york and in other places have been hurting because of this and they had shut us down in new york so the only had outdoor dining. And i don't have to tell you at your dining in november and december and january was cold. So i thought what can we do. That would be cool. That would bring people to think about this wonderful restaurant at least come by and get takeout from them. So i started show cold if these walls could talk and i've been very lucky in that Worldstar media has provided me with so many of their amazing musical guests leland. Sklar ab- scott page from from pink. Floyd kenny aronoff. The drummer andrew cole. Gurion it's just been incredible last week. We had on the very well known a writer. Michael musto so. I've had a blast with that show tomorrow. We are going to be filming. And we filming on location at penn chief up inside which is great. I heard of your guests tomorrow in. She would like me to tell you. Hi how cool. Also she's very nervous so you have to take it easy on her part that the one thing i can tell you in my real life. I am the person that you know. If i have a gazillion france is the real deal and that's not always so cool to be because people will often take advantage of your kindness sherry his kind of person besides being beautiful on the outside. She's beautiful on the inside. And i love sherry story. And the reason i love her story so much is know she's living she was living will now. She's there but she'll be back you know in the states again there. She was in a very small town in canada. You know her family had a logging company. When would i ever get to meet anybody from such a different background. It's right don't we love this. Look what's happened to her for maximum. I i hang onto those stories. I love these incredible stories. Where people are plucked from nowhere array. They they rise in they shine and there. I love inspirational stories. They're the best because people that are listening to these shows they're like oh god you know there's somebody with a dream and they've gone to follow their dream and the reason i love it so much as i was a girl born in the bronx with the dream and i knew i had to follow that dream. No matter what anyone said to me. I grew up in a very of great household but very very middle class you know. My mother had been a model in gave everything in unknown model. Give everything up to marry my father and just be a housewife. Not that. there's anything wrong with that. But that's what wanted. I remember as a kid she would wear. Her mink stole when she would go to the supermarket. Mike would feel like what's up with your mother. She had a whole closet full of beautiful clothes. And i grew up seeing that glamour. But i was also raised. Oh you don't wanna do that. You know you wanna have something really secure in your future. maybe you should. She used to tell me. I should go work for the phone company. I didn't know why you know to be. Can you imagine like working for. At and t. I would blow my brains though. I can see why because you're very personal you. You're very open in super lively spirit to talk to. I mean you know so. But i was always that way and i was in this house where you know. People weren't really like that was always added the box. From the time. I was a little kid. I knew i would you choose things. I would be a model in. I would go to africa. How africa came into that. Nobody knows to this day. But when i was twenty years old. My university offered me the opportunity to go to a remote village in nigeria called. Fa they had a university. And i had to come up with a subject which was going to be chango. The god of thunder. I have always been in been interested in Deities from other cultures and traditions. What i call traditional religions why people believe in them and how they've existed for thousands of years. That is so interesting to me. So there i found myself in a village cold. Faa twenty years old and there was one thing there. I could relate to even a a little bit at. The road was made of red dirt. That houses were cinder blocks with those those tin roofs. And i would. I was the only white person besides my college boyfriend. Who was there with me. He was the filmmaker and we would walk through the town and they would yell out. Oda roy ball and i would think that bo in europe asia means a hello or goodbye so i thought they were saying hello stranger. I've found out so funny. So i'm finally told me white. Bo is the skin on an orange when you peel at the white skin so you feel like horrible like coating on it. Yes so that's why Bowman but it was all in very incredible spirit. And i met so many amazing people and the thing about nigerians in the thing about people in africa. There's a whole thing with hospitality. We have here. More walls built up around us. There's a whole with cultures there that you know you meet someone. Then you have to meet their parents then you have to meet their anti then. You have to meet their friends. Someone invites you to dinner. You can't say oh. I've got other plans you have to that dinner. It's a very very warm culture even even to this day so that was the very beginning of my african. I call it my african dream and then here we go x. amount of years later. I couldn't wait to get back to africa. So that was when i was twenty you realize i spent decades trying to get back to africa and a few years ago. My husband and i made a film. We went to cameroon and made a film about people doing gorilla and chimpanzee rescue there. Were two women that ran these rescue centers ape action africa and on chimpanzee rescue and these rescue centers are ten miles apart. They're both ape action. Africa was run by a british woman. Who gave up her whole life in the uk to do this and then sinaga. Young chimpanzee rescue center was is run by a woman from oregon a vet sherry speed. She's been doing it forever. Also they take the babies whose parents are poached and they bring them to the rescue centers and they're raised by human volunteers either local people or it could be american or european volunteers to do this. But the primate baby spends a year with a human being. Now you're probably thinking well. Why does that have to happen. Because their mother was killed and they have no idea. They have ninety percent of our dna. People don't even realize that and when we will go out to the forest With the person who is in charge of the chimp babies at a action africa. Her name was stephanie stephanie. She's a local girl with her blue fingernails. So beautiful those poor baby chimps were climbing all over her but while they were climbing was taking them to the tree and showing them you know what they needed to do to climate they have to be shown and they will spend a year with that person and then this is the most interesting part the there are families of primates in these places and they are kept in for acre enclosures. That is a very large large outdoor enclosure where they can Have their families make their nests and live the kind of life that they would have if they were released and what it's ensuring is that these primates will go onto live. Many people have asked me on. These shows are just when they've seen our films. Why can't these animals ever be released. You take him out to the forest to get melby shot and killed and the best example you think of all the protected areas in south africa the tourists go on safari but we're constantly repeated about massive elephant poaching in these are quote unquote protected. You can't protect them enough. I guess is it and the only way that this is going to stop is when there's not high prices paid for the bounty of a guerrilla hand for medicinal purposes or a rhino horn for a variety. So i've never heard of guerrillas hand being used as but dismal purposes are in certain cultures. And there's another. This is so ugly. But i talk a lot when i speak about this. Bushmeat bushmeat is any animal that comes from the jungle that is sold for their meat in the marketplace and And case in point we'll get to the pandemic on that because that's what this all started with so yada they they can sell pieces of gorilla or chimpanzee in the market place most often it's shipped to middle east or asia and search is a delicacy and while i was doing the research for this film there were people and i was never able to find out if this was true or not but i believe it probably could be in new york. I was heard that there is a small market for it as a delicacy. And it is very high priced and sir. I know you have to take the price tag off of all of this stuff and one of the ways you take the price tag off is. You've got to be able to employ the local people have either of you ever been on safari only at disney's animal kingdom okay. So far his might favor report. I don't care if it's canned. Okay us that's my. I love that park but when you go on safari in africa in kenya the local people or called the masai and what they've done they're. They're extremely well organized. And the government understood that the maasai own this land and they've developed these lodges and the musae are running a lot of the lodges and there's also been programs in microfinancing so they would much rather take it's to see these animals in the wild than shoot them for money and that's what has to happen in in more of these places you've gotta get rid of the dollar value for the head of the animal and have the dollar value for the experience of the animal and you bring people in from all over the world and it's a win win for the local people and a win win for the tourist. So so yeah. We made that film and it is so funny. I came full circle with that. And prior to that phil with were in ethiopia. We did a film called fragile beauty about the disappearing tribal people they are. The are in the southern ohio valley. The hammer people the car of people the mercy people who believe it or not or addressing the same way they have for hundreds of years which is incredible adornments animal skins. I mean when they kill an animal there it's to eat and they have every right to. They're not you know they're they. Don't go to the supermarket to buy. Food they're hunters. You're you're using all right. They're used the whole of thank you for understanding that you know because people are pictures in there like wendy. You're such an animal lover. How can you condone this. It's not condoning. This is their culture or right. They're using part of the animal. And i mean they're they're adornments. Absolutely i it's undescribable and i went there to do a film about their dress and how they use even the dried flowers everything they paint themselves belonged before we ever had body inking here tattooing. They have any themselves by making their own pain from the clay and drawing the most intricate designs and i had to explain to people here when they saw the film fragile beauty. they're like oh did they. Just do this for you. know they. They will have to take care of their cattle looking like that. I mean come on. I would be embarrassed for them to come to a walmart and see how people dress. It would be racing goal like all all out but again you know part of their culture but of infamy making these films telling these stories will go to tell one story and it turns out to be a totally different story. Because i was going to make this wonderful film short about their gorgeous fashion and were in one of the villages in god comes over and he said to me you. Malaria feels like. Oh oh yeah. I have them i said. Are you coming down with malaria. And he said no no. He said but one of the men in the village. His daughter was very very very sick. And right because this is what i come to find out that the kids in the village get malaria and a lot. This is so bizarre for us to hear a lot of them told. Make it malaria in this day. Right so he said to us listen. He said we have to convince this man to go to the local clinic so i had to invite him into our cheap and tell him that it was a gift that we were foreigners and we were so excited to be able to come to his village to make our film that could he please come in are cheap and bring his daughter. We want to help her. We had a phrase that like that. Now it wasn't that he didn't want his daughter but it's a cultural thing. It's almost like a he. How accepting accepting something from us. So i got them in the jeep and we get to the clinic and the man was very embarrassed. Why was he because he doesn't have money because they they border with cattle. Okay and you can't buy malaria medicine with the cow so again. It's the culture so i say to the nurse there through my translator. How much is a malaria medicine. Ten dollars so we got the little all the ten dollar medicine. One of my favorite parts in the film is the man grabbed my hand and he's holding onto it for dear life for saving his child but is what a fine line you know. It is between saving the child and that child and other children dying of malaria. And i was having to be able to help that child. But i gotta tell you. There's hundreds more kids out there in the world and again now with this pandemic i didn't you know i tell people when i speak all the time it each one of us can make a difference in the world. I'll do it through speaking. I do it through my films and even with pandemic cooking the amount of wonderful comments in emails. I got from people that were sick and to press. No one's dealing with the fact that my god we've been dealing with this year mental health crisis. Use is scary. It's scary to me. There should be clinics on every corner. Or you know everywhere i turned. There should be billboards with eight hundred numbers with you. Know sappy people on the other end that number when you call because this is this is absolutely crazy. People's worlds have been blown up and the ot