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11. Josh Hartnett

Eli Roth's History of Horror: Uncut

35:17 min | 1 year ago

11. Josh Hartnett

"The history of horror. Uncut is a shudder original podcast, download the shutter app or visit shutter dot com and enter the code shudder, pod to start your free two week trial. That's promo code. S. H. U. D. D. E. R. P. O. D. I'm sure curator Sam Zimmerman. This is the history of horror uncut and essential audio companion to ally roths history of horror ally. Ross history of horror is a seven episode docu series, threatening the and immortality of the Sean RIA, and all its terrorists within these are the full candidate interviews, most of which can only be found in heard right here in this podcast. You'll hear how John shape these filmmakers authors make up my stroz. You'll hear the personal unbridled appreciation that only comes from those who know how special our can be welcome to a more intimate history of horror. The history of horror uncut is built with the full raw interviews conducted in production for ally. Rats history of horror. So in some cases, ally, leads the talk itself in others, deeply knowledgeable producer. Kurt saying steps in today Kurtz gonna talk to something of an unexpected on removing Josh Hartnett. So the reason I say he's unexpected is because it's kind of deceptive. Just how much contribution Josh Hartnett has made to genre. There's his memorable nineties turns in the faculty in Halloween, h two o there's the brutal Alaskan vampire movie thirty days of night. And then there's that recent absolutely stunning gothic, horror series, penny dreadful. So Harnett has now run the gamut from aliens vampires where we'll sue Connex slashers, and so much more. So here he's going to get into his John favorites. He's more of a fan than even thinks he is his career the freedom of performing within the genre and learning how to perform within it from greats like Jamie Lee Curtis and Danny Houston. And of course he's gonna talk stepping into the archetype of an iconic creature a penny dreadful here. Now is Josh Hartnett? Listen up goals. So tell me you are. My name is Josh Harnett. I'm an actor. I've been in a few horror films, the first film that I was hired for actually, it was a film called the faculty rubber Rodriguez directed it. A lot of young actors at the time we're in it is not sample piece. And that is more of a SCI fi film. Was Miramax before was the Weinstein company. They had may in a deal in which I would also shoot Holloway nature to at the same time. You know those the first phone that I had that came out and the general public saw. But I'm shooting the most simultaneously parts of them. It was it was pretty full on introduction to creepy things. And he needs to tell me about your partner. Well, I played Jamie Lee Curtis zone. John, I was nineteen years old, and I did a reading with Jamie Lee, and she decided I was read for the role, and I had no idea what I was doing Astor a few questions. But what it was like to be on said, what she was going to what she expected me that sort of thing, and then just winged it throughout the entire production. I had no idea what I what I was getting into turns out, the people really liked the film, and it sort of launched my career, and you know very thankful for that. All I knew was that when Michael Myers showed up, you were supposed to be about, as terrified as you can possibly imagine Michelle. Williams was in the film as well. And the two of us were sort of swapping stories about what scared us most and like how we would kind of get into the scenes was to sort of discuss those things, and we also shooting in a place and Silverlake here in Los Angeles on an old convent up on a hill, and it had been abandoned for some time. So it was a pretty creepy setting in the middle of the night shooting long hours through the night, the director, Steve miner, sort of made, sure that we felt the atmosphere that was going to be appropriate for the for the peace stories digit. I mean, I'm difficult because I'm not afraid of much except probably sharks needles. I don't have a first moment in hor washing or film that really terrified me aside, from seeing jaws when I was a little kid, and I think that's destroyed my concept of sharks, as I think it did for an entire generation dance words, just overfishing them. Back to topic, a movie this in the most when I was young was poltergeist, that was a film that I saw way too early in my life. I shouldn't have seen it friend of mine's mother, let him rent the film, and we watched it, you know, some Friday night, and I had to walk home three houses, and I just sprinted you know, because it was just it, I didn't sleep for about a week and then jaws, obviously, the fear of sharks came from that when you're on said, being able to see behind the curtain, it's very, you know wizard of Oz, and you don't you don't fear us after after that, and being able to sit down and talk with the guy who played Michael Myers. This guy was playing Michael Myers. Inbetween takes you know they took the mystery out of it. Took the fear of it for me. So you're in this film, and at this point, you know, Jamie curses your mother. So she's, you know, she started in well psycho arguably ground zero for the modern, you know, of slash route from. I'll we'd really thing to kick everything off. Yeah. So what was that, like she bring any particular wisdom to bear and how to behave in the film like that begin? Like I said it was just getting started into no idea what I was doing. So if I felt if I if I wasn't feeling it, it wasn't coming across on screen, and she just she gave me that old Lawrence Livia, quote, basically, just acted just pretend like. Maybe it hurt me deeply because I didn't think I didn't really know how to pretend correctly. You know, I just had to I had to really feel it. So we, we had a few discussions about that. But the interesting thing that you bring up mean psycho being the, the inception of the horror movie genre in terms of not monster her her mother was the star of that, and Jen, it was in the film, as well, playing her mother. So in a way, I'm the third generation of straight out of horror strata of psycho. Did you grow up watching like any slasher films? I mean, I saw hollowing, of course I saw Fred of thirteenth street and the things that scared me most were the psychological aspects of those films. It wasn't it wasn't the sort of jump cuts and the scary music. And suddenly, he's there it was the weird like being able to go to sleep and not knowing if you're a sleep or not in elm street. Not being able to wake up out of a dream that sort of thing started to really play on me in, in my own life, poltergeist, got to me because it was that concept of dimension, that's just beyond reach. If you kick up the wrong dust on this planet, you're going to have all these spirits, come up, and they're going to animate objects that you thought were normal objects. It's such a brilliant concept because suddenly you're afraid of literally everything in your house. Anything could be a danger. I slash ago's those films were those are the ones that I saw when I was a kid the typical ones from the eighties singer penny. Dreadful dreadful, obviously, don't go on it. Love themes. Doffing archetypes. So we're those did you like the for instance, a universal monster? I did you know, I, there's a, there's a campy aspect to those films that I found fun, you know, and I think they were able to make fun of themselves at the time. I mean, didn't have in custody. Oh, do a few versions with the moment with Frankenstein, eventually. Yeah. You know, I mean it doesn't it moves onto that, but, I mean at the beginning, even even at the beginning, there was something surreal, something sort of over-dramatized about it. So I'm thinking specifically about Frankenstein, as opposed to Mary, Shelley's, the original was more, like, I guess what we tried to pull out and penny dreadful. The creature was a bit different than he is in our universal lore. And I think what we tried to penny. Dreadful was go back to the original books, original texts, and make things as close to that as possible, while still having a little bit of fun. You know, all of those old archetypes are fun to play with and turn on our head if possible in a new way because they've been seen. Many times. But as far as the original, I really liked the original universal once I was into the Wolfman I was into the mummy. And I think those were the ones I didn't really get into the Bela Lugosi flicks. I don't know why until I saw it would. And then I wanted to go back and watch them. And then I did that those, you know, late nineties characters the universal character said she liked compelling. Micon. Well, I mean, partially the performances, but I mean, as far as Frankenstein goes, it was that I film is so beautifully rendered. I couldn't say why it struck a nerve with people when they were from my experience, was that ultimately, everyone feels like an outsider internally, ultimately, everyone feels like they are somehow apart from society when their, when their child because they're just getting their legs and learning what it's like to socialize, and we see lots of other people who seem to be born to it. But I think nobody really feels born to it. And so when a film like that is about someone who is entirely on the outside, because he has been re remade, your heart goes out to them. Especially the way that they portrayed him in that first film that combined with the hubris of a scientist, taking his own ambition, too far is something else that I think in adult could relate to. And so it hit. On a couple of different levels as a kid. I really felt connected to rank us monster. Not so much to Frankenstein himself. I think that goes for a lot of those original horror classics does characters are sort of standards for people that are on the fringes or out. Castes castaways custodes. Yeah. What was the division Mars? I love a brutal vampires. We're in thirty days tonight, and I loved that they were part of a society that had been living in a sort of subjugated state for a long time that they weren't these princes, sitting on in castles, they'd been scrapping and scraping to stay alive for a long period of time. And so when they figured out that they could have this enormous feast, they all got very excited and came up. And it just seemed very logical to me it plays on all of the original ideas of event, pyre at doesn't really add much. In fact, I think it strips away a couple of things, and I like that, as well as sort of a pair down. Surrealistic brutalises version of vampire, Doug it, what's the Colleen each to the plot of H, two O? I can tell you what, my character was up to. Okay. So John is at the school. It's a sort of academy of sorts. His mother is there as a teacher her. Her mother has a boyfriend who's also a teacher. And there's, there's a lot of tension between mom and son. Just he's naturally growing up. He meets the girl falls in love and Michael Myers comes back all the all the mysteries comeback. And we spend the majority of running away from him. That's about. That's about it. That's supply. Good the cut and thirty days of night, very well thirty days tonight, my character is sheriff in barrel. Alaska, which has been renamed recently actually bear different town. And I can't remember the name of it. He's sheriff a barrel. Lasca in barrow Alaska. Apparently, the sun is down for almost a month in the middle of winter, and it's the thirty days when I title, and when that month of darkness occurs, everybody, a lot of people leave barrow, and the ones who stay sort of, you know, hold up and they go a little nuts. And, and it's not the most healthy environment to be in, you know, we hold needle sunlight sometimes. But empire stone vampires feared out that this is a really good place to go and have a low effort meal, a sort of banquet pit can go on for a full month, and then they can go back and relax for the rest of the year. Apparently. And so the vampires closing them town as dusk is setting, and then the rest of us were there try to survive for month again. We spent a lot of time running away. Eventually, of course, you find yourself on day, semi them, pyrrhic state. Yes. Well, my character doesn't make it all the way to the end of the film. So I have become a almost vampire, who has to fight the head, vampire, who's played by Danny Houston. We had a scene in which I inject vampire, blood into my into my veins felt like kind of nineties, and no but it took hold. I started to become a vampire. We have a big fight, and I kill the big bed pyre, and then all the rest of the vampires run away, and we're, we're saved the few few remaining people are are saved the memorable lunch. Yes. Exactly. Yes, I saved the town by punching through vampires head with my fist your performance. And that thing, you're, you know, very, it's very agonize because you're the one hus- agonized through that whole picture. Meanwhile, day, Houston gets to I presume half a lot of fun. Yes. Then he was in great spirits throughout the entire film process. And I was I was burying the more heavy load was doing the heavy lifting. I've found over the last few years, I've been playing a lot of characters agony. A lot of characters and like internal tumbled fits uncomfortable. But it sometimes it's compelling. So I think it's good for a character, especially in the sort of larger than life scenarios to feel like he's dealing with real issues because I think that brings people in and allows them to believe in the story a little bit. And then the scares are scarier. Now, in this case, is that something we could do in horror films? You can express certain kinds of emotions that on the larger scale perhaps than you might if you're playing a little chamber piece. Yes. I mean definitely I mean, but that's the interesting thing about penny dreadful it was both, you know, both the upstairs downstairs, you know, English chamber piece, and it was, you know, the larger than life grand and all. Or genre. What I like when I appreciate it. The film, especially in the horror genre. It's when it has both when you're allowed to kind of become very intimate with the characters, and then the larger than life, sorta stuff, rears up and usually that's up is a metaphor for something sister often, or even, you know, thirty days of night, which you think that fellas about gang. Kick ass that definitely wasn't about getting to know someone who is outside of your comfort zone, that was that was fear the fear the fear of the stranger film. What would what would Steve now say about it? What did he say about it? Steve is remarkably lacking introspection about. So, so am I on this interview? It's like really that can't land any insights. I know they inserted a I think it was deemed slave in the other orders came in put it in divorce aspect to seem to be an attempt to also make it somewhat about relationship dynamics and appreciating. The people who are in front of you for is they could go away. They can turn into a vampire part someone's face. All of those atoms that make a film, a film and not a graphic novel. I think sometimes at some, it depends on the it depends on the film entirely. But in that film, I think it added to the weight of the characters, and I think that, that made them more important than just having to be chattel or some sort of, you know, pray, and there was more texture to all the characters, I think including the vampires in the film, because purchased allowed more time. That's the odd thing about graphic novels to film adaptations, as opposed to novels to film adaptations, he just lose so much from novel to film. But sometimes, we're novel to a film, you're allowed to expand a bit in that case those those what we were able to watchmen being a notable. That's where we're not talking about that. Little about them believability aspect of speak just a little bit about that. What's writing on you and the other actors essentially to take something and make it something audience wanted mmediately rejected in space being ridiculous. I think the most fun performance in thirty days of night was Ben Foster's, because he gets to come in early, and he gets to be the first sign of something really bizarre happening to the characters so up until that point, you're playing a character whose very simply going through divorce and locking up the town like he's done many times, and he's going to have a very lonely month. The other characters are all going about their business in very simple manner. And then suddenly, there's this stranger who has a very interesting dilemma of no concept of where he comes from. And the way that he comports himself is just unlike anyone that they've, they've met, and he's talking about all these crazy things I think that would be dare girl for the. Los Angeles place department. But in barrow Alaska, you don't get many people just passing through so that sets the tone, and he did such a fantastic job of taking it from a place that seemed believable and really making this gigantic performance of this very short period of time. He was on screen, that's a stage for the rest of the film. And so, I feel like you know, you're just giving your audience a sort of you have to give them a template for what the film's going to be like early on. And I think that's why there's so many pre titles, sort of scary things that happen in horror films because you want people to know what they're getting into before. It goes dice back down into just the normalcy of everyday life. It's portending the whatever the person you get out. Get out. The just. Have if this cut early shocking violence. And then they're going on vacation. Speed newish there, any contemporary or trends that, that site you're interest. I think the fact that get out is receiving so much attention critically is fantastic. That trend is great the whole originally. I think what horror was trying to do was something that I think, superhero movies are trying to do now in, they were trying to in an escapist way give you a little bit of a mirror on your society. It's nice to see horror movies, stepping up and taking that mantle back that film, definitely was more of a sociological experiment than it was the horror horror movie in its inception. I think and it just was, you know, it worked so well and was terrifying. That's exciting to me, just because there's added depth, you know, there's layers of, of intrigue there, you could play a movie monster. Which one would you want to be white? Sorta did the Wolfman? Even though he wasn't my favorite when I was a kid, I think playing Dracula would be a lot of fun. I know a lot of people I take that back jecklin Hyde. I think it'd be the most fun to play. I would love to check on hide attractive out the jecklin, high character that story, the duality the fact that if played correctly, you can see both those characters in each character, and you can. But that is, is that the self doesn't change the like intentions, do, and the way that one goes about it, so to play him as completely split personality would be wrong. It's they're both Macintoshes of an internal beast or desire or something in a yeah. I, I think to be able to play character like that. Well, would be a lot of fun if the film, if you found the right film, if it was the right film, where the TV show, which of the screen Jak, one, highs anything pulled that off dust. The original was of Lionel, Barry. Moore who settled in the one I was thinking, Spencer, Tracy writes, he right is see probably gave a performance. It's more like what you're talking. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. That's I in my opinion, that's the way to do it. It's just this eruption of different, you know, the adversity ego or whatever there's nothing tampering him down from becoming this thing anymore that internal Bharati you know, which we all I have a little bit of your Pedro dribbles a series. Obviously, then folded over a set of episode sample. Are you were you able to do things in the longer format that she couldn't do in a film or is the film component kind of deal for order film, because it's you know, you're locked in this block of time. Where things could end and everybody could die. The funny thing is everybody. You know, you can still bring a new characters they could die all the time you can have lots of people dying on, and you can have more people dying when you're doing a TV show. I really enjoyed from an actress perspective being able to play that character, very straight, you know, to be able to try to understand what his dilemma is the fact that he's sort of going through a similar exp. Experience except he has 'em nesia about it sort of Jekyll and Hyde situation. We've John Logan, who created the show, and I had low tons of discussions about what Ethan actually knows about his where we'll counterpart what he remembers from these experiences and what we came to was at the beginning. He knows that something's happening. But he's not sure what he thinks he could be just a murder. And by the end of the show, he's very aware of what he is. And he uses it to kind of foster that Dir that journey, and make it full and realistic. I it was nice to have a lot of hours to do that because it's a big shift in a person's psyche. And for him to become as brutal as he became at times, to start him at a place that he's almost passive and bring him to that place where he's trying to actively safe, people by becoming this monster is, is something that took time. Yeah, I really welcome the experience of working on that because it was it was the first time I've ever. Dove into a character for that. But like the time and a world's aren't used as much as they perhaps could be popular culture. Well, I think that the where will is more other than we little bit. Unrelatable once you have the where wolf, it's more wolf than man in a way we tried to stay away from that, especially with the prosthetics almost entirely my face. It's just a little piece up here and then hair just to allow the humanity to still be there for the audience. So I think in popular culture, I think that's the problem. That's where people are sort of separating themselves from the character. And we all want to relate to the characters that we that we watched onscreen, and that one is less relatable, and you're more of a law janey world rights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a guy there. A lot of jumping around. I think the American world the London one word. No one word. Save me a lot of shooting days, if they would've just gone. CGI. It was fun. Yeah. The prosthetic part of again character so much conflict, so being able to sort of release in the form of where we'll was fun. But it was a big secret through the first ten episodes, eleven episodes. And then it was used so fleetingly for the second season that I didn't get to do a lot with him as a where wolf just like one shot here one shot there. And then, by the end of the second season we're getting more into, like him being owning himself as where we'll understanding what he is. And then there were more scenes with him where wolf and then did get to let go and that way this, it's a nice release from like the tension of the character. Who is this, where wolf is pretty single-minded and that's easier to play for certain kinds of characters that are suited for different time periods, like what would would this character work today in a modern day said a thing? I think so. Yeah. I think they definitely would be an interesting thing to see and some of them, you know, have been up dated. It just depends. You have to be clever about the way you updated. If you're going to update Frankenstein or Dracula, you can't set it in Transylvania or you know, in some on some remote mountain somewhere because it loses it to media. See it loses the if you updated it correctly, of course, those archetypes would still be a lot of fun to see them interact with our current environment. But I don't think that people do updates all that. Well, sometimes there's a lot of horror films, that just don't work in the updated, fashion and vampires have definitely made their way into more modern films in different guises. But even the kind of typical has made his way in a modern films. Dracula style, vampire, I'm thinking of interview empire that spans time, but it ends up in modern era. But yeah, I, yeah, of course I think they could all they could. All be updated if done. Well, speaking of them, her home, so he asked me about interviewed vampire. What did you think of that? At the time I really liked it. I was I think it came out, and I was still high school. It must've been like ninety four ninety five I didn't really know Anne Rice's books, and so I was kind of blown away by the world of the story and is very romantic. You know, it's very romantic film than I was said, young kid who was into art theater. You know, it's fair romantic kit. So I was I thought it was kind of those kind of a great interpretation. I haven't seen it in a long time, though. I don't know if stands up. Have you seen him recently? No. That year. What I did Sears also Coppola's version of dragon. I loved Copeland's Dracula, Cobos directly must come out a couple of years before that, like ninety two or something like that, I saw that. And what I appreciate it about that was just a level of art direction, just how creative that was as a film. And what a what a mood it set how great your girl bins performance was all of those things elevated that story to a level that it was. I mean it's an exciting. It's a work of art. I there are so many things in that film that you see now in films, and they're still a little bit exciting to watch when he was doing. Dracula as beasts sort of point of view stuff, the way that he shot that was so exhilarating and terrifying. And we hadn't seen that before, and some of the prosthetics were just so scary, like you still have seared into my mind. Mike directly in when he's when he's not. Quite fully out of his pupil, or you know, the mode and he's in the crate. It's just got. Yeah. It's terrifying. Gary Oldman, just licking the razor. And you know that hair you do you ever see this is something that I've talked a lot about. And I feel bad for saying this actually, but have you ever seen the great British bake off? Do you know what that is? Mary berry and Gary Oldman as Dracula look a lot alike. Go back and check it out. I love that show. And I love Mary berry. But like this similarly there. And that Phil also of anything it's about the most perfect realization of the gothics. Incivility. It took we understood as gothic, and it added layer of. It felt almost like just he was dealing with all the concepts of early film. He was like what would have happened. If someone tried had an unlimited budget and today's resources in the nineteen twenties, and we're trying to make the metropolis vampire films. It said, so much about film and about that time period and Dracula, and it was this is on the streets, and they film it through to the adult camera day. Yeah. That and the like I in the sky thing, and like there's so many tricks that felt very old, but we're updated in such beautiful way. As just really quick really special film, full of great performances. Anthony Hopkins province of this Motassedeq's. Well, that's one of my favorite Coppola films. But there are others, but it is one of my favorites for sure. Is any one of those subject matter interest, you're more than another, or there's something you'd like to work in, like, do go story or something. I'd like to do a real good story. What I'm more interested in what I think get out, pulls off very well. Is that it exists in our world without any sort of? I mean it's just pushing the bounds of what people might be capable of. But it's not. It doesn't involve magic. There's an element of sort of pseudo magic, but the tea and stuff like that. But I would love to do an actual store. That'd be really interesting or if I'm, I'm also very interested in like SCI fi, that's brutally, realistic that exists, like with the things that are here now and you're black mayor is amazing. And I find that to be one of the most thing is terrifying to watch and it's also so much fun. So those sort of that sort of stuff really interesting, this, last question, one in the last questions fast on vs or slows. These fast. Somebody's I like fast. Somebody's I understand what the point was for having slow zombies, not just logistically, but as a stylistic choice, and as a I get it, but I, I like the sort of twenty eight days later zombie version that they're gonna get you, you know, and you better run fast. You're not gonna be tripping over any land courts. And you know, getting up and running away again. And the slow zombie threats seems like still a manageable threat for apps. So as an actor as per of trying to play the person who's being chased it's much easier when you're running away from a fast Sabi let's put it that way, 'cause I'm guessing the whole slows on anything because the sense of dread that whole impending doom sensibility, that they try to create with the slow zombie is great to watch, but I mean as, as an actress, it'd be really difficult to be, you know, constantly running tripping, it'd be like they're a foot closer and then really getting somehow there's still there. But the thing is eventually, they overwhelm you, this is the thing like eventually, they're not stopping to eat. They're not stopping to. Well, I mean, unless they're stopping to eat one of you. It's an unstoppable force. That's the thing that's terrifying. But it's not like immediately scary. That's the thing that I don't get. And do you have any favorite demonic? Possessions zones. Everyone says the exorcist. Yeah. I like the exorcist alone with demonic possession in our case. We also include things like the Brundige the of the credit verse stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Rosemary's baby right now. Yeah. And all of those things are fantastic. I mean, even even the flies version of demonic possession, which is an incredible film, chronic did so many. He did know John carpenter. Did the thing the thing was great, too. And that was we, we had a sort of third is tonight as a lot of the thing in it. Ultimately, do you think the road has been paved with the success of Maimi, hit, and get out for the horror films, that are actually someone better financed and more serious intent? I think there's going to be a few that involve topnotch, people and producers directors. And the teams will be fantastic will that change the way that the film's turn out? I don't know. I mean, I think there's, I think what's been nice about the horror genre over the years, that it took a lot of ingenuity, to make a good film. And it helps to push the process of filmmaking forward, just a little bit when, when someone will make small budget film that really scares the pants out of off. View and it gets a lot of people into into the seats and it doesn't by using some conventional concept in a new way or by changing the way to use film, one Baone, who directed the first couple episodes of penetrate floness now doing the interesting part, which by the way, that I think it's the first preview that it was just released is really kind of horror great. He directed a film called the orphanage that was very creepy, and it didn't use the sort of typical. I don't know the Renault there weren't many jump cuts. There was none of the sort of typical stuff to scare us just a really well told story, and it was scary as hell and that launched his career, you know, sometimes a big budget really helps but sometimes big budget makes things sort of flaccid. 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40 Days and 40 Nights with Arielle Isaac Norman

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Can I have a question for you? Okay. Yeah. Can you imagine a world in which not having sex for forty days is actually difficult and not just how your life is the whole? We're talking about forty days of free and say I was like I've gone without having sex for forty days like in. I can't count how I'm sure have gone forty months. Right. So it's caught imagine having banks Josh Hartnett and yet people need to fuck. You just this is a feminist. We use the Bechtel Kat test. Jesus christ. I wanna go home. Okay. We use the Bechtel test as are jumping off point. It's media testament by cartoonist, Alison Bechtel that asks of a piece of media that there'd be two female identifying characters. They have to have names who talk about something other than a man for exactly two lines of dialogue. And boy, do we have a home Dinger today. This movie was Caitlyn's. I it was my idea. It's lent. It's lent. So this is our Easter episode for all you Easter heads out there. Sorry, we're everyone who wanted us to do passion of the Christ. They'll have to wait another year this year, it's forty days and forty nights. Well last year, we did shuck Alah as our bonus episode. Oh, yeah. I guess we have been pretty Christian about celebrating eastern the Bechtel which is crazy because I'm not Christian, nor am I we tried out like three religion. And then gave up. Like, baptized Catholic first communion was Protestant. We briefly were wiccan. And then we're just like we're going to sleep on weekends and not will be more of our five anyways Ford. Okay. So we're doing the move for his for unites. Should we just get into it? I feel like I can't not I know. So let's get back as like. So I was like talk. I have to wait because I have so much to say moving there's so much. I guess today. A comedian you her moon tower and laughing skull comedy festivals? She is the host of gender fluids podcast. It's aerial Isaac. Norman. Thanks. You're coming on sorry too. That we made that you had to watch this. Now, I'd never seen it before. And this was a perfect opportunity to finally see it can I tell you that when I was a kid. I didn't see this movie. I remember it coming out. I mean, a kid I guess I was seventeen because I was a Mormon and we weren't allowed to watch movies like this. Oh, no Areeta movies, which I think it's. The art. Yeah. Yeah. But I remember like looking at the cover of it like with the hairdryer and wanting to watch this movie, I remember thinking that looks really hot he has to resist sex. I remember being like man because I was a sexual child, you know, but like, you know, not having sex, but just very sexual child. So remember just being like man, I wish I could watch that movie one day when I'm an adult. And now I have so what I meant to say was. You gave opportunity and it was it was eliminating life-changing killing. What's your experience with spooky? I saw it. When it first came out in two thousand two I was also I was like fifteen or sixteen not a movie that I enjoyed by any stretch of the imagination upon rewatching it to prep for the episode. I realized that the only thing I remembered about it was the scene where he fakes his orgasm toward the beginning. And the says Ryan sure, yeah, that's what I screamed at might Roku TV last night. And then the scene where he is like dumping ice onto his Bonar that I remembered that scene as well. But everything else I like forgotten imagery, but I feel like this is like one of the last movies of that sub-genre of like teen young adult type movies where. Where people place sex pets. We've got our cruel intentions are ten things. I use its peak in two thousand. Yeah. But this is the tail end of it all of this is when it jumped the shark we bring it back. The sinister sex. But yeah, that's my history. And I yeah, I'm sorry. That I was like, yeah. Let's do this for our Easter time episode. And I don't know why thought it would be a good idea. I think we're all going to have a great time my history with this. I take Caitlyn as I was wondering last night. I thought this was I was I was like nine when this movie came out. I definitely didn't see it. I don't know how much of a cultural legacy. This movie really has because I didn't know anything about it when you said forty days and forty nights. I was like, oh, that's I think a movie about the bible, and I thought Josh Hartnett was in a biblical epic. I did too many movies back then. I was like, yeah. It was like ready for an I think I sort of had it confuses six days seven nights. But I don't know what that's about either. So maybe I wasn't confused. But I thought it was like Josh Hartnett is playing like the technicolor Dreamcoat. Like, I thought it was going to be movie. Here's what you texted me. Okay. So next message. I thought Dada. Dada. Dada forty days and forty nights was distortion movie about the bible, next mess. It is dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. It's not. It's so weird. And then you find out it's about like San Francisco. It's like the heck broS Frode showed two thousand and two working in a warehouse with terrible lighting and abusing women. Like, you're just I was not ready for this movie. And I'm angry I had to watch. I know this is my bad everybody. It took me three. This movie is fairly short. It's like an it's an hour and a half. But so much happened that is crazy than I it took me three hours to watch the movie because I had to keep pausing it and taking notes because every two seconds. You're like hold. Let's try to unpack this like there's just so much. And then you had not seen this. You just watched it for the for the first time. Yes. Yeah. I watched it with my new girlfriend. We had a great and she hadn't seen in either. She was quite young when it came out. So yeah, we had a great time watching those. I mean, you know, we've got quite high. And we'll like I thought it was going to be a very boring Lee bad movie. It is not a boringly bad movie. It's a mind blowing Lee bad movie. This is the pit ame-. If you wanna know, what problematic means just any seen in this movie is dear God. And it may because if you watch any movies from back, then it's like, oh, God that we are pretty homophobic. We were pretty just like letting things, but this movie takes I'm like was everything this bad. I values this feels like a little worse than even normal normal was bad. But this feels slightly worse. I think it's because in those other sex, but movies, they're teenagers, and these people are like post college. So it's like they're a little run cheer. They're a little more adult. They are actually like fucking by this point in their lives. There are multiple points in this me were I'm like where the parents. He's outta control their twenty four. They don't need parents. Oh, God should be illegal. This is like one of the more paranoid movies. I've ever seen two of like it seems like the leading characters like struggling with mental illness. Right. Like is hallucinating constantly at everyone's like, you're just horny. And then they make him sign up for the no fat read at board essentially prior to the no fat broad at board. Existing the no fat parallels. I've got I may not everyone covered. He does become a also he's Vall selling Avar voluntary. He noted forty days forty days, which but like the culture of no fab is like the red at board where people mostly men, but sometimes I'm gonna join in. Yeah. I I did join I masturbate a lot like this would be hard for me. It's like, basically men convincingly. They're like I'm not gonna the the longer ago that masturbating I will become a superhuman physically. And they're like all become like, all my problems will be resolved. Some people seem to get a lot out of it. The way the board is run is very strange where it's like you lead with a number in parentheses and that telling you without coming like how many days? Yes. Yes. And so like there's people that are just starting. And they're like, oh, this is great. I used to have a stand up joke about it. Because it's so I tried to infiltrate the boards, but there's people who have like not fat in years, and they're like treated with such Reverend and their dislike ever since I stopped. Coming. I got promoted at work like it seems to vastly who'd never mentioned stop coming. This is great. But then other ones get get behind hundreds of Mike. Oh, very like, basically murderers. Yeah. So it's helping them focus their murderous right now. I have time to watch scary videos on YouTube and like make plans. Yeah. So there's a lot this is just like very proto fab. So I remember I took an improv class once in the the thing that I remember most is that on our performance night. They said that if you have to p just a little bit it makes you more creative. And I went ahead and didn't P before going on and degrade. So I so I've always thought if that is so I think about that. Sometimes if I ever have to p and I'm going on stage pretty soon, I'll just be like, all right? Let's just use that energy. So I wonder if it's a similar thing if your balls are just a little full, and you just a little on edge. It makes you a little bit more creative and focused and everything because it's like there's a part of your body. Trying to find a restroom urgency since of urgency that kind of like translates, and you're like if I could just finish this thing, then I can compete the same thing with when I ran track in high school. They're like if you have to p before a race don't like does he running? The cool people. Do they know you're serious and the people behind you? No. No, I. Yeah. And then you win. So. Well, yeah. Can we talk for civil? I mean as y'all y'all sleep with penis people. So now, unfortunately, I feel sorry for you it from what I hear it's mostly bad. But but how abnormal do you think it is for a man to go forty days without sex? Probably they're never doing that about masturbating unless they're Mormons or it's something I think, I know a lot of men who regularly go at least forty days of not a lot longer with sex jerking off at least three times a day. The jerking off thing is I think the the thing because it's like, basically all of my male friends dunk. In fact, a lot of my boyfriend's nearly. So, but I think it's yeah. The masturbation thing which is weird because it's like that's not really the route this movie takes this movie takes instead that all women are determined to. Fuck an awkward looking Josh Hartnett. That's my favorite part. It's because. Yeah, they'd like they explicitly. Well, how do we? It's so weird to know how to start with this movie. Right. Well, let me do the recount. And then we'll jump in. So we meet Matt that is Josh Hartnett. Oh, my God there. I one of the most relatable like things in this movie like who hasn't known to random dudes name, Matt and Ryan who have a co dependent friendship, and they hate women like that that is attornal. So Matt was in a relationship with a woman named Nicole who dumps him off screen and was the teen from hocus pocus. Correct. Yes. So since then he has been having sex with a bunch of women, but he feels very empty after each encounter. And there's one scene where he's with the woman, and he has to fake an orgasm. And he'll listen as sterling yes. Ceilings or cracking, and he's going to his brother who is like a priest in training to be like what's wrong with me and his brothers just like urine idiot like oh. Oh. So he finds out that his ex girlfriend, Nicole has gotten engaged to a rich handsome, man, right that mostly rich. And then he goes to his brother, the priest and training for advice, and then he gets the idea to give up sex for lent because it's the first day of land. And he's like, oh, I'll just go without sex without masturbation without any sexual intimacy for forty days in an attempt to grow as a person and try to get over, Nicole. Sure. Which is doesn't address a lot of the problems that he's having like he really needs therapy. He's trying to better himself. But he's trying. Yeah. That part I was like this is not the worst thing to do everything else. That happens is worse thing. Yeah. So it's day one. He gets rid of all of his porn in Victoria, secret catalogues in any lube like substance, very two thousand also like your tech guy. What's with all this analogue? Porn. You was a different time. And then he goes to a laundromat because his roommates like is roommate Ryan who fucking suggs, he's like, let's go and meet chicks. And it's like, no, I have laundry to do there's that scene in the bathroom where like Matt has just had a severe panic attack during sex, and then runs into his friend, and his friend is like Gipp it go there and finish the job like such a fucking gross. Yeah. Just bad writing pervert. He's like building like toy cars. He has time to make model cars that's what they can think of in this second stops coming. He's like I'm really into trains now, which I have found. So he goes to a laundromat instead of like going out to the club to meet chicks. And there he still need hasn't a cuchara will Shannon's Sossamon. Here's the thing. She's not like the other girls. She's not. She's not. She's she loves being at the laundromat, and she just wants to get to know. Q boys at the laundromat. Yeah. She's scared for her life at the laundromat. She doesn't not make contact with anyone at the laundromat like a normal extremely unprepared to be there. She's like can you make change for me? I don't have anything to read. I need your fabric softener, but that's like a way to meet people. I never carry a lighter. So that I have to ask for lighter, and it's very effective in that way. You're always like sharing whenever you have. And you know, whatever. So I can see that. But she should've left one thing at home and rest now, she's just a freeloader. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She's done her hair and makeup to go to the laundromat remembered. She's she's really like forcing yourself into. Josh Hartnett s- space in dear for the scene. And he's trying to be aloof because he sees that she's cute. But he's like I I'm involved selling. She tries to talk him. He's very like an she's like a sea of same time next week t heat and he's like. And then we he literally doesn't say a word during the home. Dr which is which is interesting because she goes back to that later. And she's like man that first day we met and like when he didn't talk, right. Very strange. Yeah. I was like did. I forget apart where you'll have a conversation. She acts as if they had this moment of connection. And then he, but he like reacts to her like what she's saying is like, yeah. That first day. I was like, no. That was so uncomfortable to although there is that scene where he has. I I do love the there's some good product placement in this movie. There's a lot of attention called to the fact that he has a Mr. bubble shirt at one point interesting, Mr. bubble getting in. There are rated comedy time. That's the real analysis. I have no those they wanted to. Yeah. So then metro mate Ryan, the shitty guy finds out about Matt's vow of celibacy, and he's like with the Fook. Look good, you're meant to calm and jerk off and you're going against science. And then we cut to a scene where Ryan has told Matt's colleagues at this like tech startup, whatever they work at this vague. They're like, oh, this is welcome to computer dot com. That's the company. It's an internet company is all they ever say about it. Right. Very convenient way for them. Not to have to explain anything, the they can do whatever they wanted this company in terms of the bet. It's so it's so okay. The art direction for this company. It is so dark all the lighting is blue men are always wearing many layers women are practically naked. Yes. It does seem to be very cold in the building. No. There. I was surprised that there were women in tech represent does. Nice. Sure. But they were all dressed like Barbie dolls. They were all violently horny and treated like carpet. Yes. Indeed. And they all have all these people who work in this office have a bet going where they put money into a pool, and if they bet on the right day that they think that Matt is going to have sex or masturbate than they win all the money in that poll. So if someone's like, I think he's gonna fuck on day twenty three and a bet correctly. They went all the money. I also think it's really funny like the the way the internet is treated in this movie is so uncanny valley where like Matt has sex with that woman that he fakes the orgasm win and guess to work the next morning and his co workers like so heard you faked an orgasm last night. And he's an method. How do you know that he's like internet was Twitter even around like that woman? Would've somehow like how would that women have even gotten the word out if you wanted to it is a blog? Yes. Like, I'm Nipah in that comes back later where what's her name? Erica finds out about the bet like two seconds later. And he's like ho did, you know, she's like entertainment. Yeah. So then Matt does not know about this at first, but the women in the office are actively there's one woman who like at first to sexually harass him in the workplace to try to like get him to like break, his vow. It doesn't work. He goes to the laundromat again, the same woman is there Shannyn Sossamon, and he introduces himself this time. Yeah. And she's like my name's Erica. He asks her out on a date. They go on a bus state in the fun Montas that that was supposed to be him being cool and sensitive and interesting. He's like where can I definitely not come right? Yeah. But it's just like why is she just so happy about the whole thing here. They're having a great time her character is like God. Like sexy dream girl. Is that what we're calling this? I think I think that she falls into that category. Pre squarely because like her motivations don't make sense. She seems determined to fix him for whatever reason she hangs in. When it doesn't make sense like. Enough to enjoy a bus date. I mean, she wants a bus date. She loves hanging out at the laundromat. Yeah. She's just. Yeah. She's just flitting around. She's she's got a quirky job. She's a cyber nanny like Maggie Jilin. A poorly dressed Malik mega Jilin hauls her best friend. I lost a notch of respect for Magill and hall in this movie. I gotta say is bummed. Damn. I hope you bought something. Nice. Yeah. So they're on their bus state at the end of the night. She goes to kiss him. But he's like, and he gives her high five instead because he can't even can't even kiss a run that is against the rules to write because I guess I would fall under the sexual intimacy and kind of gory not if it's like a disconnected kiss. You know? Just like little just don't on the cheek. Okay. So then he finds out about the at work because they've created a website with there's there's ads and everything on the website. And one of them is a porn site. That's protected by the cyber nanny company the air. Go works for so Maggie Jilin Honda's apparently by right? So he rushes over there. And everyone's like, hey, there's the abstinence guy internet. And she's all pissed off at him inches. Like, what is it? Some kind of bet not to sleep with me. We'll talk about her what she gets angry. Yes. So he's like, no, no, no. I I like you and then after a few days she decides she's not mad at him anymore. And then they go on another date out to eat, but his ex girlfriend Nicole is there with her new fiance. This is another very two thousand two moment where it's like at this time dating a tech bro was not yet a sign that like you had a ton of money. She had like an old school banker. She's got like a dirtbag Bank. And then he's like, oh, no, I just work at a silicone valley's. You lose her. I'm like do you fast forward? Josh Harnett, Scott, billions of dollars and huge like waging wars and foreign countries on Facebook. Yes, then so Matt doesn't deal with seeing his ex girlfriend. Well, he catches on fire, and then Eric fun. Erica gets mad at him again for not telling her that he had an ex girlfriend. Okay. So by now, it's like kinda midway through it's like day twenty or twenty three or something like that. And you know, the other guys at work are like, hey, I'm gonna take vows still busy too. Because I think that's going to help me get Lee they were just lying that they were doing that to women. I mean, they're doing that is a way together. LA? She was a six hour window. But. Exactly. So then Erica isn't mad at him anymore again. And she's actually kind of starting to fall for this. Yeah. And he goes over to her house and makes her come by blowing a flower pedal around. Really really like that. I don't know where that came from. Yeah. But I did think that'd be there is nothing like not being able to have sex to make that tension really hot. And then if you had the foul pole, I mean. Yeah. It was a sexy states. I was like that's something you can do at home with with your lover you've already had sex with you put an arbitrary restriction on non having sex, and you can get you can get a lot out of flour pedals that I liked the I just the whole time. It's just like manages wish it were different people. Yeah. But that was a hot that was a hot seen. Yeah. And then she's like I'm in love with him and Maggie Joel house like why she's like, I don't know the movie the most over. And then a little bit later, Nicole shows up at his house has ex girlfriend and this is like a major shark jug. K yeah, she's like, my my fiancee broke it off let's kiss, and he's like, no, you suck actually finally realizing that for the you ruin my love, even though we know in the opening shots of the movie that she broke up with him for very good reasons. Right because he was invading her like privacy. And he wasn't listening to her like was being too much, and she just like I had to break it off. But then it's slowly framed of it was like you have to go into two thousand two brain and big. Oh, no. She's the villain at in the third act. They make her. Mylan. God, we'll talk about it. So he he's like get out of here. I'm gonna slam the door in your face. And then cut to the final day of the vow, Nicole goes in and places a bet for thirty five hundred dollars that he will fuck on that day. Meanwhile, Matt's he wakes up. He's got a boner the likes of which you never seen. Oh my God. Yeah. The forty foot Boehner that he has and he's like heading to work. He's imagining all the women being naked because he's just so horny by this point. He's he's withheld from abstain from sex for so long that it's making him sick like. Yeah. Yes. And then it midnight that night when the vowel ends Eric is supposed to come over. So he can like finally bust is not into her. I guess had. Honestly after all that if someone like if someone if we forbid us forty nights, I like, please masturbate. I yes, I don't want. This like thirty second experience. Of you like approaching death like please handle that on your own. So he handcuffs himself to his bed. So that he won't be tempted to like touch himself like Odysseus and the sirens there. Oh, yes. And then at some point when he's in this like horny induced days, Nicole comes back over. Yeah. He's having some kind of dream about a boob world mountains, which I used to have that. Who among us is not fantasize about a poorly rendered boob walls. CGI boo. So Nicole comes back over and Rabea them. Yeah. We'll talk about that scene. I rewind that three times. Just be like now hold on. I thought that was like maybe we get a shot of her entering the house. But we don't the audience comes to from boob world with him. And he's just been raped by his ex girlfriend. Yeah. Oh my God. And then I checked it was like there's only like seven minutes left in the how how could this possibly so like Nicole and Erica pass each other on the staircase after as she's leaving. Yeah. Dakota's leaving Erica has his leaving. Yes. A sex criminals is fleeing the scene, and then also just insider traded that bet. Oh, yeah. They never address the bet. Right. So insane. And Matt is upstairs to being like when era gets here. She's going to be so mad. I got raped. Yes. Which is. And he's like I thought that she was you. She's like you fucking asshole. I was being raped by my girlfriend instead of my ex right? It's great. Can you believe this movie was made by Miramax like well? Oh well. Checks out. She storms out because she arrested wondering him, right? And then he has to like figure out what to say to make it up to her and he's like trying to figure out all this stuff. And then eventually he just like goes is it they make up in the laundromat. Right. She's doing laundry he comes to the laundromat, and he's like what I should have done. This whole time is this and then surprise kisses her. And then she's like, I love it. And then the movie ends with them sucking for like forty seven consecutive hours. And then all the tech broS are like at his apartment in the living room. Just like placing beds is like, oh, you're gonna go another hour. And he's like, you guys are users get outta here. As far as I know. That's a realistic depiction of tech, bro. Yeah. So that's the story. Let's take a quick break. And then we will come right back. On the next Ron burgundy podcast. This is actually exciting. You got Mr Peter Dinka JR. Chang's impersonal poetry, actually. So a lot of people actually find poetry interesting. The sound machine away series throat of games game of thrones wrong in any surprises. We can expect from Tylenol Lancaster curious. Iheartradio is number one for podcasts. And it's easy to see. Why? Find the Ron burgundy podcast on the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Let's get into your forty foot Boehner's away discourse begins. Now, I still don't understand whether he won or lost the will like. No, I guess I didn't really think about how did the bet result. I can't. Yeah. 'cause they don't have anyone win. They're still just betting on other stuff. But like, right. Sure. They never addressed. Like, hey, technically, if he gets raped does the vet count, right? I don't wanna know what these touch the money. The money are just simply tell the movie doesn't even acknowledge it as rape. We're supposed to think of it that way. Right. Which is that is one hundred percent. What happened? Make no mistake. I think she wins them. I think Nicole wins the money for raping. I got. I don't see how she wouldn't have. They'd never addressed that. She plays that how. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, because she makes makes thirty dollar bet. And then goes on rapes him, and she must have one. Yeah. She must have won like eight thousand dollars off the the odds that they would have given her on the last twelve hours or whatever. Right. I think she's the real my billionaire by the end of this. She's a Silicon Valley billionaire because she raped. This is just like this movie. So extremely fucked up that I don't I've never seen a movie that like tree like it's written. There is this undercurrent and a lot of movies. And a lot of attitudes of like that women are out to get you there trying to trick you there duplicitous they're going to try to entrap you they'll use sex to get it. That's the only power that they have. I've never seen that taken to like an eleven white in the way that this movie is because every woman in this movie. It's almost just like having an irrational fear confirmed of like his fear is that women are out to get him and women are going to quote, unquote, betray him. Like, Nicole did when she broke up with him for a valid reason. Right. And then the way the movies written every woman does that. And every woman acts like his worst fear and every woman is out to get him. And that's just the logic. The movie has is like, you know, your frayed how women are out to get. You. They are. Movie about it. It's just it's an 'cause I mean, there's like, okay, I made a list of women out to get Josh Hartnett. And yes, it's all of them at different points. And then eventually Eric at the end, not as much, but candy the woman who works at a computer dot com. Industries photocopies her asked tries to entrap him. Guess Nicole who it's first implied is like she's getting married to like spite him everything is personal like attack on him. And then she later rapes him for money. Erica there's a few moments in the movie where it seems like she's trying to seduce him for her own like needs. It's also implied that their relationship is more pure because they don't have sex weird and old school in whatever the women that I don't know if we ever lunar name, but that I hook up that he has who just like viciously tries to emasculate him by any means necessary wizard or like crazy. We w the one who is like come with me. And then that leads him to fake. Or go them. Right. And she that character set up by being likely she's mean to a waiter. Yes. And she's like, this isn't what I wanted. And then she insists that he proved that he's come. Like just doesn't he goes and get some white out. He's like I need anything that looks like semen. So he's like and the white out and what I guess is probably a joke. But this movie Kaelin is maybe the least funny is attempted a comedy time, smells like is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I never need to buy white out. I just like collect men's come a little body. And I yeah. That you line them like next to your bed. So that they can get like moon energy. Which is definitely. Yeah. Other women who tried to ruin judge heartedly into three women at work in insane scene where they're like you've taken our power away by withholding sex women, withhold sex. Not you I was giving the money to chat like the charity. Can we talk conspiracy theory with like, so so yeah, every every single woman we meet in this movie is out to get Josh Hartnett? Yeah. One hundred percent, okay. First of all at one point two of the women walk in. And then they were like were gonna lesbian kiss in front of you. And you're not gonna be able to resist that like, oh, that's the one where she says. She's basically trying to get the pussy power back. Yes. She's and she says it pretty explicitly that like, oh, it's women because it's the idea of like we'll men want to fuck so badly like their evolutionary impulses to get pregnant. So we have this power. And if you are saying, you can resist us even for. For all of us for forty days. Then that means that we've lost our power on this fundamental level. It's so she she's like, I am we have threatened as right as the half of this population. That is supposed to have his power. We are threatened. And so we have to fuck you or else? We lose the pa-. Yeah. Confirms like the belief that that's the only power that they have ever had the. Okay. So what did you think we should take that power? I think we should. I think women. I mean, I'm already doing my part not to fuck these people. But I think only about ten percent of them really deserved to get laid. So don't say it's less than that. Yeah. I mean tops ten percent as far as I can tell. So you know, we should wield that power. I mean, it's a good power to have. But it's not the only power to have. And it seems like that girl is grasping at straws. She's like without withholding sex. I have nothing and she nothing. They it's insane that they do this where she said where he says, oh, you're not really trying to have sex for me for this insane philosophical like rand. Thing that, you know, this idea that women are gonna lose their pussy power. If if I don't have sex with view, it's it you're not doing it for that. You're doing it for the money. And she's like, no, I'm not I've already signed a notarized thing that I'm giving to a notary to not. She's so like that doesn't mean anything I couldn't have any motivation excess. They needed it to be a piercing where this woman had to prove that a man cannot resist having sex with a woman. So here's here's another team plays out. Matt is in the back getting a bunch of Maxell tapes because he works at computer dot com. Writing a lot of maximal tapes, or this woman whose name is Andy she is named she walks in there and says something can do I understand what you're doing that women have been doing this since we'll forever. So we all know about the power see us having the power that's part of the system and by taking the power you're fucking with the system. And I think you can see why we can't let that happen. And then, you know, she she shows her whole notarize document. And he's like, I'm not in it for the money. I'm in it for the power and Matt's like see you wanna have six with me to get back the power. And then she says we're willing to do whatever is necessary to get the job done by. Then a second woman is in the room who expresses doubt about Shono the movie 'cause out doesn't it? Love it more Oscar should have been given. But there there's like a second women who comes in. And is like I don't know if we should do this. And she the other girl Andy is I know we're doing this, and then like starts to like forcibly kissed her to entrap, Josh Hartnett, right which feels like another one of those scenes like cruel intentions, where it's like, well, the male filmmakers, we gotta make this movie hot we're gonna make it hot for the boys who were watching this. Let's put two women kissing. So that the little boys can be. I appreciate it them seeing. Sure. I'm gonna use their tongues. And. Total. Out by the tongue thing. I think it's because of that two girls one Cup thing that happened and ever since then it it took me a long time to heal from. And I knew I only sideways glanced at that ever once but still just like what they were doing their tongues really ruined lesbian tongue Steph time. So this movie is actually pretty healing. It was the first time I watch two people just rub tongues. Together. I was like, you know, what I think I can enjoy this again, I guess it's just telling that you rarely see like a lesbian kiss onscreen between two queer women who are kissing each other because they like each other and they're attracted to to. It's useless for a man. It's usually evil to we can assume straight women who are kissing each other to either seem more attractive to men to get better at kissing too. So they can be good at kissing men or to like seduce and entrap men. So that's like the only representation you get onscreen in mainstream movies of two women kissing. It's it's usually. Yeah. There's those back del test for for lesbian kisses. And this one does not. You should make that test. Yeah. There's yeah. Norman test is whether two women kissing his at all for them. Which you know, female pleasures still has no part in at least one of those women was cute. You know that show the one who's like, Josh Harnett. It's not even cute, by the way, which was great 'cause yeah, I feel like they gave him a worse haircut for that. I remember him being kinda cute. I always thought like dumb and dumber. Like, I can't tell if my tastes have changed. Or if like, I saw him on the cover of that movie and thought he was cute at the time. Or if I'm now looking, you know, people all look stupid back then. But now with that haircut was horrible. He his face was not great. It is confusing that he would struggle to not have sex for forty days with that haircut is how I feel sure that scene is like aside from the the rape scene that scene was like what is going on in this movie. And it's so he's so clearly the victim in all of these situations all happening at work. This is all like at work. Workplace sexual harassment. Yeah. That no one's doing anything about because the boss is like why won't my wife? Fuck me that French. We haven't heard him the boss of computer dot com. Is I like cool idea to not have sex because now you've got the power a you withholding? It I'm going to do that to my wife because she is at one of me. So I'm just going to be like, I'm not gonna fuck you. And she's going to be like, no fuck me. And then John Hart, and it's like, okay. Cut to he's like. My wife's says her life is way better since I stopped fucking trying. So had they can I just say I related to that guy so hard. I don't know if you'll know that I'm twice divorced and. I that's honestly, though, I remember trying that I remember being like, well, if I stopped trying maybe then she'll like try to come on to me, and that will be good. So like the fact that that was in there. I was like dude yomas real, man. These games that you play with women. To be like the truth is I just don't think that we were sexually compatible shortly. I think there's I've been figuring out a lot of stuff about my gender and sexuality. But like, yeah. I elaborate things in your mind. I think so many people due date people that they're not that sexually compatible with for we date people for variety of other reasons, like maybe they're attracted us, or whatever, you know. And then we have this like sexual dysfunction. So this poor boss. Like is having a real problem? I have no sympathy for him. I didn't I didn't like I mean, the first thing that he was. And I was like oh God this is. So like what a waste of the scene when it like flashed forward to like. Oh, okay. I'm glad that they at least point out that this doesn't work. Yeah. Because it doesn't. But then there's a third seen his in where he is trying to look under his employees. And then he lost me again. Yeah. He's allowing all this sexual harassment to happen. And then he's also sexually harassing his employees's. His troubles. At home. I think are he's allowing himself to feel disdain for women in general because his wife's rejection. He's also again if you've ever worked at a startup where the boss is twenty years older than you. And then everyone else's twenty four and they're just kind of like leering at the general work plays of worked for a bunch of guys. Like that. Who are just like, you know, they frame it like, yeah, we're we're we're all friends here. This is a family. If anyone ever calls your workplace, a family, you're gonna toxic replaced, but they're like, yeah. We're all fame here. And like, you don't have insurance or you vote and what's going, and it's always a creepy older. Dude. Who's home life is bad? And then he's like let me see if I could get my twenty something year old employees to fuck each other. And tell me about it like, yeah, he's very for just to hear about their fucking. Yeah. No, it's it's upsetting. And also in the workplace is that scene where it just no women ex rationally in this movie, just blanket statement, right? So when the three women, basically. The fucking what's the group in Greece? Oh, what are they gonna poodle friends? The poodle friends, they're like the poodle, friends of computer dot com. And they're like, hey, did you hear that Josh Hartnett isn't fucking anymore? And then one is like we'll see about that. Which is like why do that she corners? Josh Hartnett in a room. That is the walls are glass. So everyone in the workplace is watching her try to seduce she photocopies our own Adam before that she spreads her legs. And it was like check out my butterfly tattoo right next to my puss. I'm trying to get another tattoo on the other side of my put like if women I also believe as much as it's problematic even care. I also believe that if women really did want him to lose his bet they could have done a much better job. It's like, they're they have no subtlety each one of them is like I'm going to make you lose this bet. And here's my boobs, and it's like don't tell someone you're going to make them lose. The bet you got to shrink them into this start with. Tricking man. Yeah. Like, they're so bad at it. It's like, no. I mean. Well, it's like, yeah. 'cause like women are in the movie are also stupid as hell. There's just they're malicious and yes dumb in horny. And mean, all the women you in this movie aside from Erica because we'll get into her in a minute. But all the women who aren't Erica fall into. I think one of four categories. It's either a conniving bitch, which is like the ex girlfriend, Nicole. It's like the colleague who like evily tries to seduce him by being like, here's my better. Fi datu. They are like a frigid shrew or a prude type which would be like his bosses wife or Matt mom who we meet who's like a very prudish like they can't take a bed. Sex can I speak to your manager haircut? But it depends in the bed. Yes, just she's just she's just trying not to tell her sons about it. I it's kind of strange that they're acting like she's uproot. It's like well sure sons are over in her father. The father is like weirdly trying to talk about their sex life to their adult now for no reason to the priests son and the guy with the syllabus, Yvonne. Yeah. That was. Oh, yeah. Because there's like a brief tangent. Where like Josh Hartnett? It's like, I know how to not be horny hanging out with my parents. But then his brains. He brings out like a chart of all the sexual positions that you can do with his hip surgery having happened. And so it's still somehow like turning Josh on to watch the little cartoons of the mom does. So the mama guest actually does end up being horny. Yeah. Well, that's another categories like horny nymph. Oh, basically all the women the women in the office the women at the coffee shop on like no bras for hot winds. That's. That was another hallucination. That's what I want to talk about. Joe there's stuff in this movie where you cannot really tell whether it's a hallucination or not. And so it makes me the only thing that can redeem any of this. If you just pretend that all of its in his head because it's like it. I the ceiling cracking is ridiculous. And that's clearly hallucination. And then and then sometimes women are like taking off their shirts in front of him on the subway, and we know that's a hallucination. But then no broad day seems to be real he ties his price brother that it was. It was an official is official or unofficially sufficiently. Sponsored no bras for hot women day for the coffee shop for hot hot women. I'm like determines who gets to participate in this day, whose feelings are hurt. Hopefully, it's the honor system. If you're a hot, you know, it, you know, so. Oh, please. We need a revision on this. Now, national holiday. I think we should do this in general, you know, more. No broad I'm fine with that. I think yeah. Sure. They'll eating that. He thinks his fake is actually. But it's actually real as his brother hooking up with the nut. Oh, yes. Where he thinks. He listening. But that was real right? And there's like actually I'm not going to be a priest which I thought was kind of funny. He needs psychiatric medication anyway. If this movie is all in his head. He's very sick twisted. The end is this is really a memento esque thing. Like, we've been the whole thing was hallucination. And that's the only reason that it was making any sense. Also, Josh Hartnett like tribal backpack to oh my God. Oh god. And then the other the other category that women fall into is like kind of like the gullible idiot. It's basically any woman who Ryan tries to date because Ryan's like oh. Yeah. I I'm mind orgasmic. And then she's like oh nine. So like, she's just like believing anything that he all the lies that he's feeding her to get her into bed. So it's these like wildly reductive tropes that all these women fall into let's take a quick break. And then we'll come back mortar discuss. 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Talk about Nicole's character. Okay. We've alluded to this already. But the the opening sequence of the movie as a bunch of home video that Matt took when he was in a relationship with Nicole. And then we see him watching it back six months after she has broken up with him. And he's still stalking her in broken up about it. But the video is so weirdly telling where it's like it starts out where they're happy there in San Francisco than working turtlenecks. It's great. But then you see the video over time where she he seems to be invading her space like there's he's filming her sleep, and she wakes up, and she's like, no stop doing that a new new and he gets closer. And then she sucks top. And then it's like she's in the bathroom in a towel. And he's filming her and she like closes the door. So in my head. It's like, okay. That is someone you would break up with who would do that. But I think we're supposed to think like, oh, she was like means. Him. And like, we feel bad. She was pushing him away. Right, right. An implies that it was like somehow her like it's on her and she was cruel to him. And then the way he treats her throughout the movie is like he definitely is obsessed with her. There's still pictures of her all over the apartment six months later, not healthy the whole like no use painting for her just like so tired. But it I mean, it also is like called out in the movie as like not good behavior. But I feel like that's that comes from his roommate Ryan who and his brother. Yeah. Those guys are just like I mean, especially the Ryan character. Who's just like this toxic dude, who's constantly making statements like men be like this women be like this men are supposed to come. And that's just how men are there's like all these like, very these are the two genders, and here's what they to sexist. We haven't even thought about gender by this year. Just the idea that like you start off like watching it now. Saving like, she is a fairly rational person. And then she does the whole Spiderman two thing where she's like, I'm I'm getting married now. And that is somehow canonical the Spiderman two thing. Even your engagement is another like strike on women. It's another women's suck thing. Because it's like, oh, this guy's clearly just a rich, dude. She's left him for just for some dude for his money. And that's that's a weirdly like stock character to of like the guy that you know, she left you for he's always like rich, and he's always a dick, dick. Yeah. Usually looks like James Marsden. And then and then the leap of logically. We find out from Ryan that she's being cheated on. And so it's like the story is constantly taking revenge on this woman that started out by not really doing much wrong. Right. And then she's just total. He'll turn at the end where she's just turned into an absolute rapist Fillon in a way that doesn't make sense with anything we know about her. Well, we don't really know anything. We do see the scene where she first comes over to be like, well, yeah, we're not engaged in more. He's cheating on me. Do you wanna have sex? And then he says, no, actually, I've got this forty days thing gone. I've got this girl. And she's like, I am so turned on by being rejected by you that like, but that is anything we know about her. Oh, it doesn't mean. Nothing makes sense. But it's just like this is how they use her character. It'd be like, oh, I'm so turned on by you now, even if you close the door, I'm just gonna be out here moaning even harder because of the rejection say somehow that is her then motivation to go place this bet and win this money is like the sexual rejection has so like insulted, but also turned her on. But then seemed like leading up to him like standing up for herself. And then she gets like horned up by someone yelling at her which great message. Right before that like his monologue. But I'm thinking that it's like we're supposed to be like. Yeah. Good for you. Judge Martin it is that like she's like you're saying no to me. And then he says you always do this to me. I must be the idiot. I keep coming back. But I'm not coming a more. You take everything for me. I like she just broke up with you because you were a lot. And here you are being a fucking lot again. But then it's like her character is not written to follow any. That's how that's how a lot of men feel about women is like, yeah. If they have some kind of relationship, and then they you took everything from me. And it's like what is that feeling these sustainment on that character? Like, that's how he feels about whoever wrote this movie clearly feels about women is like, yes. Vampires are just out here to get us. Right. And then is like I'll prove a point by writing female characters to be this. Yeah. And then speaking of irrational behavior, can we get into Erica? Yeah. Yeah. Let's get that. We haven't talked about her at all. It's almost like she's boring. Sounds like she's a shell of a character. So in most scenes that she is in. She is getting enraged about something for no reason, she's constantly behaving very irrationally. And it makes little to no sense. So I she gets mad at him three different times. The first time is when she finds out about his vow. Right. I don't know why she so pissed off again because they only met once once or twice maybe before two times at the laundromat. And then she was like, how dare you not telling me that you're giving up something for lent. Like, yeah. That's in your is. Are we are you guys religious like doesn't seem like anyone and they've met two times? And then she finds out about it on the internet. And then she's furious at him her getting so enraged by that doesn't make any sense. But it's like threader this movies like well, we have to like find conflict somewhere. Site. We'll make. His women. Be getting mad all the time. Yeah. So then for reasons that are not clear, she decides that she's not mad at him anymore, and she's going to hang out with him again. Then for reasons that are not clear like the every other sentence. Anyone doing anything in? This aren't really. Then she gets mad at him whenever she finds out about his ex girlfriend in this happens on their second date. So he is not told her that he has dated other people, and she is feary us about it. So she keeps being like, you said that you were honest, but you keep lying about things or withholding the truth. And that's why a mad at you. But like you're not obligated to tell someone on a second date your entire dating history. Extremely emotionally immature movie in like because. Yeah, it's acting as if as soon as you meet someone, you know, at first sight that you're in love without having a conversation. And now at this point, you should then tell them everything about yourself, you should each merge completely a very weird lesbian impulse almost. That's how that's how this should be. Preceded. That's how she seems. How have you not told me everything about you? I thought we were in love and getting married and this is intimate, and we should be it's yeah. Why directly? Exactly. And like her motivations adjust to his mission in a way that doesn't. I just just I mean, nothing is realistic. But it's like if you met someone who didn't seem to like you at the laundromat and continue to pursue them. And they're like, actually, I'm not fucking right now. I be like, I'm I'll see myself out. But she she just kind of adjust to him and says instead that like sex doesn't matter, and it's only about the kiss, and like totally flips the script from like being horny to being like, okay. I'll do what you want. I mean. And then they have the sexy flower fuck, which is great because well before we get to that. Because I do wanna talk about female orgasms and their depiction on screen. So she's got mad at him about not knowing that he has ever had an ex girlfriend, and then again for reasons that are not clear, she decides she's not mad anymore. She's gonna hang out with him again. And then we see the scene with the flower peddle its. Blowing around near her puss, and she has an orgasm. And then the final I got mad at you for no reason thing happens when Matt gets raped by Nicole and an area, and then she is just like she's so mad. She's so mad met, and it's because the movie does not treat what happened as rape the movie when she comes in. He says oh my God. I just cheated on. I mean, he doesn't say cheated. But he's like, I thought it was you. And so he doesn't say I was raped. So really, this is actually a good depiction of how men are not reporting their rapes here. She should've said, I was raped you call the cops. And instead he goes, I thought it was you know, he doesn't believe in his own. Like, you know, he doesn't believe that women are capable of agency enough to even to call that rape. He oh. Oh, I must have fucked her. Yeah. Even though I was not conscious or lucid. So even in his getting raped. He's not respecting women. Insane about that. And it's like, it's you know, men are raped that does happen put statistically so much less right than women that it's just like another victimizing this character in a way that just enables his bad behavior, and doesn't make sense, and it's more complicated than that. But it's just I don't know like women in this movie are evil, and they do the as the movie goes on they do more and more evil things. And it's only the woman who complies with exactly what he wants. And like helps him -ccomplish this mission. Even while he's lying to her and be, and and you know, doing all this other stuff. She's the one who is like quote unquote rewarded with his filthy. Boehner a month and change later. Now that I think about it though, when she when when Erica walks into that room, and he's like, oh, I thought it was I thought it was you not I didn't know it was this Nicole chick he's handcuffed to his bed rails at this. And so she either has to be like. Wow. So you decided to have like kinky handcuff sex for this. You know, vowed breaking bet losing sex that you had with your ex or what, hey, why are you handcuff to the can you? What have doesn't question? It. Does question. It just like sheared or Josh how many followups? Yeah. Right. And so could you cheat on me? I yeah, I guess to be fair. She does not realize that he had been sexually assaulted, right? So she's mad on the grounds that like, oh you cheated on me. And if that were true, which is not what happens, but let's say for argument's sake that it is they've hung out four times. Like, she add you're not in a relationship yet. Like, he's not cheating on you bit. Again, the movies like, well, we have to have like the final conflict that we needs to be resolved by the end to like kind of like the puritanical thing. They're pushing of like the longer you don't have sex with someone the pure your bondage. Right. And that sex is like this thing that taints relationships, which can be very true. But it just the way it's framed as weirdly religious, like the that that looks like, well, you know, now that they've waited it's almost like the weird like highschool narrative like we have to wait until the moment is right. It'd be perfect to be together forever. And the movie wehrley subscribes to that. Even though it makes fun of religion through the other character. I don't know. I mean, I can't even say religious undertones because it's specifically Lynch, you know, it's like the forty days and nights is there's like Jesus fasted for forty days. And there's they at one point make it a little explicit that they kind of comparing him to Jesus in the ability to withstand. Good to sex. And but then so it makes me wonder because he's already made himself into a Christ figure. Oh, I'm going to resist sex instead of food and water even says, I look like, I'm on the cry. And yet when he's when he's handcuffed to the bed frame. It's like they've actually you're using imagery price figure imagery, and it's like that's a little much forty days and forty nights don't have literary themes going on here that did not hit for me. That's fucking nuts. Yeah. I mean, it's like, yes. Jesus dig it without food and water, but he was jerking off every day. That's like never thought about how Jesus was jerking off only this fasting can survive. Drink your drink. Loophole. That's how you can take your own bodily fluid. Miss. But yeah, basically, the movie is like the movie uses the America character as just a way by which conflict can happen because she's getting so irrationally mad all the time. And they just have the formula of a bet a sex bet movie, and they didn't bother doing any of the work to connect any of the points. They were just like she gets mad every twenty minutes. And then we resolve the they just didn't bother having reasons for anything right there. Like, it just has to happen. Like her friendship with Maggie Jilin hall is so weird where there's a scene where they're walking together and erica's talking to her about how they haven't had sex yet. Eric has like trying to act like she's cool with it. Even though it's clear that she's like she would want to be having sex. And she's like, it's great. It's like I'm being treated like an equal. And then her friends like that sucks, doesn't it? And she's like it totally sucks. And you're just like long that is that is how does he wait how what's the line right before? I they feel. Like, I'm being treated like an equal just they're not having sex. I'm trying to follow this logic. There is a I don't have all the Nabet. It's the she's saying like, I think Magill and hauled courtesy wait you guys haven't had sex yet. And she's like, no he's like doing this thing. And then she and then she Maggie Jalen hall. Does the obvious two thousand two jug of like, what is he gay? Yeah. Well, they're like, he's got a girlfriend. No, he doesn't always gates. Some guys are just different about this stuff. Right. That's what leads into this conversation. Like, she's not saying it sucks to be treated as an equal Justice. You saying it sucks to have sex. But I'm just like man, these are the only some of the only two to have an exchange exchanges. You get middle bay. And it's all about like, well, there's not a single line of this movie. That's not about sex first of all, right? So as it pertains to jump Hartnett. Yeah. Specifically at least one man on Josh Hartnett. Yeah. There's another moment of casual homophobia earlier on where Ryan the roommate is talking to Matt. And he's like you. You just never going to work for you. You can go onto dates without a kiss and passes old fashioned you go three you're a homo. So very cool. Casual homophobia the early. I defy people to find a romantic comedy, the early two thousands at doesn't have at least two instances of casual homophobia. Indeed, another thing. I wanted to point out is that a large part of the date that takes place on the bus is seen in like montage form. So we don't hear her talking like this is when we would be learning things about her character hearing what she has to say to her talking about her interests like that. But we don't we hear music over a montage instead. So like a deliberate choice was made in the edit of this movie or in the writing or whatever that we like one of the few opportunities. We would have to get to know this character is robbed from us. And we st- we still hardly know anything about her except that she gets mad all the time irrationally. Yeah. That's a woman right there for you. I'm getting mad all the time which is get mad and who cares about anything about. And then the and then the final the way the whole story ends of the final beat is that Matt is like, oh, yeah. It probably even shouldn't have done this whole stupid vow thing what I should have done. This whole time is this and then he pounces on her surprise kisses her the movie frames it is if it's like, the big romantic moment, the huge reconciliation. She hasn't really forgiven him. Right. Like that hasn't been. But as soon as his lips plant on hers baby she for kids. She's so irrationally Madge. He's probably been on her period or whatever. Yeah. That's. She's just a pill for the first time years, and it's just like, she's free bleeding mislabeling. Great. What are we to make of that? As like a a lesson. Like because that's how they're presenting it by him saying what I should have done this whole time, it's implying that he shouldn't have done this bed that that wasn't healthier good for him that if you meet a cute girl who smiles at you, the laundry room, the proper the correct thing to have done would have been to kiss her from the get-go start fucking. Yeah. That is like the whole logic of like the only way to get over someone is to get under someone else wasn't working because the ceiling was caving in. But maybe with the right girl. Then the right at the right, girl whose personnel analogy. We don't know mental gymnastics has to be the right. Look, basically the girl who's hot enough this. This is just a disaster. I like I just wish that Josh Hartnett had stayed in a room with his trains for a couple of days really confronted his like made some trains, and then like, you know, maybe I am ready to get back out there. But it just wasn't. I mean, he's in the tech, bro environment. It's hard to just be with your trains. Sometimes I loved it. The wreck tile dysfunction doesn't really come up. He can still get it hard. I think it would be too much for men to deal with if he couldn't get it hard. We weren't talking about that. We're still barely talking about that in movies. And so instead, it was just that he can't come but Boehner's or not a problem. No, always get super size sonar at work. He has Bonar. Oh, yeah. There's that song got he he comes in NAR. Blazing into fucking important meeting like get out of your your hard. And he was like, ooh. This happened solve. They go to a critical business. -pletely erect horrifying. I don't know. Can we talk briefly about the depiction of of the female orgasm? Yeah. I can't talk about this movie much. I know. I know I'm also fascinated about like women straight or whatever women who have sex with men's sex lives because y'all really aren't coming as much as you should be right. We're not not to delve too deeply into my. But you no I'm about to say that a man has never made me. I've heard that from a lot of my lovers. So anyway, so at least at the very very very lazy the movies. I'll remain side tells me everything I need. So at the very least this movie acknowledges, the female orgasm exists because most movies don't even bother to acknowledge that. It's a thing. I don't think this movie handles it. Well, but we do see two female orgasms one in the beginning whenever she's like come with me. We gotta have a simultaneous comes. Yeah. So that was pretty empowering. But she also made to seem like a crazy person. I'm surprised she didn't lick the white out to see if it was coming on. Like, well, she did initiate the sexy. Unconcious see women initiate, very. But then of course, she ended up being crazy. And like she was calling the shots during the sex. I was like that's pretty cool like, but then it just takes this various sinister turn, right? Any like women initially being presented as being sex positive ends up that they are the demon. Yeah. He's actually from crazy. So that's the first female orgasm, we see in that ends up being demonized because she's or the movie wants you to think she's crazy. The second one is San we already touched on a little bit where he's got. Also, I think this scene with the orchid pedal would violate the terms of his vow because he says no sexual intimacy of any kind if you were blowing around pedal on a naked woman. This is like more. Komo's we're just yet like butts. Doesn't count. Great. Maybe he's like. Still win. This bet. It is worth saying, I know looking into on the Wikipedia article, apparently this sex scene was voted one of the top ten worst sex scenes in movies ever. Just silly. It's still I I was kind of horny for it. I was watching it next to my hot girlfriend. So maybe that okay. I was saying I was alone. And I was still like pretty good. Really? Yeah. Taunton worst. What are they talking about? I mean. Well, okay, Damer is they just hate female orgasm. Yeah. I love it. I mean, this only sexy never seen in a movie where the women comes in. The man doesn't. That's a good point. They go I tell test. But sometimes we at that does closest we get. But this movie is also perpetuating the idea that women just come all the time without clitoral stimulation. It doesn't show you how bad habits. So. Okay there. There may be some women out there who can achieve orgasm. If a flower pedal is blown around near your puss. I don't wanna shame. Anyone who comes that way and trick? But that is usually I'm not enough. Yeah. And then the woman usually a man's got a flop his hand over your vagina, forty five minutes. And then you're like, and they're like, I did it. But then also in in the the first thing where we see a woman have an orgasm. He's not doing anything to stimulate her clitoral region. She's there are loosening. He's wrapping up on panic attack. And she she's yeah. Yeah. I think only round twenty five percent of women are able to achieve orgasm just through vaginal penetration. Joke about this. I'm doing so it's it's honestly great for that. But I don't think that's true. I just think that men haven't figured out how to do it. Like are the odds really like some of us are special the chose or is it that? Okay. But if men know that women could come at all until the sixties if we thought the clip was you know, what I mean? Until I was twenty one. Right. So of course, like more women, can it's just that. Like, they're the only ones who've had good lovers who've been using their fingers enough that like I've made women come bachelor. It's because I'm using my fingers, right? And I'm like paying a lot of attention. And it's not about me coming. So like, a it's it's just the men you guys. They're not one in five of four women. No, I'm feeling very powerful. I can't believe how bad straight women's sex life. Still are I really thought men had gotten better I thought with all the sexual, but the more I talked to people individually and his audiences. I'm like God. No, y'all really. And there it really is like that fear of emasculating a man by telling him he's doing afraid of emasculating joke escalated, become violent. I mean, don't you gotta break up with these. I have a joke about a like a guy getting because this is based on a true story. A guy like got frustrated almost mad at me because he didn't make me come. Yeah. I'm like what like, sir. I think you're mad at yourself. Yeah. We're what do you like? What do you like it out? But like if someone is willing to do to like blame you for them not making you come. It's like I don't want to have this discussion with this person. I like because people like kind of just like you guys are like the other dangerous, Gary. Yeah. So I just stopped having sex altogether. Oh, yeah. I as in forty nights time how many anyway union. I might start dating women you probably should try it just for the just to learn more about your body and sex, and then try to go back to the men and teach them things. I don't see why all women aren't just having sex. I mean, I'm not I don't mean this in a horn ball way right now, I'm not trying to come on you guys. But I just mean like why aren't all women just having sex with each other? I think it would be very strengthening. 'cause if we want to win the war against men there is one. Yes, we should probably find together we should probably stop having sex with most of them get better genes for one thing. Have you all seen birds? The hitch cotton the movie like I just mean in general. Yes. All the birds in planters. I think it's even like in the first episode where it's like the females of these. And there's a lot of different bird species that are like this right where the females or these plain Brown, ugly, ugly, little plain Brown Burt and I wanted to say, ugly cute. They're so cute. Sure. They're playing little Cayman. And then so sorry to shame. Our listeners out there FEMA bird listeners, ugly, the males of the species evolved to be like blue and green and bright. And do these crazy gamble dances? There. They're the little dancing. Today's men are so yeah, they're doing the most and in these women just choose, but those and then it's like I found a one bird species where still the girls are little plain Brown things. These guys look crazy in colorful. But they also the men build these little rate protection huts for the women. Okay. So all the little hole the gay little members. Bright, purple and Pinkett Ila, mardi gras little blurred create they build these little rape shield huts and then the round a little birds when they're ready all come and go pick their little rape shield. Huts aloom. This is mine. This is yours. And then they sit there and in these things and then the male birds come out and do their little dances. And then if they ever if they get to the point where they think one of the women's interested, then they go behind them. And then they start to try, and that's what the rape Shohat comes in. Because if the woman changes her mind any point at any point, she changes, his she doesn't consider anymore. She just flies out and the little thing protects her from being like he can't really follow her. He she has enough time to escape that's feminism. Now, let's go in that direction. Yeah. I say why. And this is why these insoles want to kill us because we have ideas like this seriously these birds they have to cut. Oh my God. I love that. Yeah. I know more. There's a spider species where you know, because the women are like large keep calling them women and not like females I like this. So the little men ones are they do this thing where they first of all they shoot spiderweb around their legs six, so there's a kind of bondage element to it. So that the women can't immediately bite their heads off. Which is what they will do if a male just approaches, but first he's he ties her legs up, which seems bad. But then they go down on the women for up to an hour. Woo. Because if he if they do it well enough, then she'll be too tired and drowsy to buy head out. He'll he can get close enough. He can get close enough to shoot his load, and then she'll be like kind of drowsy from it, and she won't bite his head off, and he can get away or at least they usually still die. But at least he can get a seat in before. She's able to get his head off. That is incredible. See man, I used to have what have we done as humans all round. I'm the one who's like putting on makeup and like. Men. No, we have to unionize. Yeah. I mean, we have to have some of the good. I just wanted to have good sex once in my life. I mean, I've heard lesbians joke about this. And like Todd jiggles. I'm like, honestly, maybe we do need to do some training camps for men. I mean, the the conversion therapy cams make it how during him. And talking like the oral in manual skills. Really need to be educating is statement, I didn't realize how good at sex. I was there. You know, every time because I like have considered dating men a number and straight women every time I mentioned that are just like don't why would you even worth it? You'll get nothing out of that. So it's. We've got to wrap up pretty it'd be so bad. It's it's wretched. Do you wanna talk about? I don't even if I did. I don't wanna talk by this movie anymore. Maybe it's ver-, it's exhausting. It's bad in every way, a movie can be bad. So I know Titanic. Wow. And everywhere. Oh, the one quick like person. I wanted to bring up was the absurdity of bagel boy Pagel boy that was one of the because he is he somehow has like the misogynist t on every woman in San Francisco knows everything about every woman as he is setting up these bagels, which is his job to go into this tech company and put five bagels on a bagel stand and leave their hand that he talks about fucking a woman, and he'll go. So there's always a match on action when he goes fucker fucker fucking to slamming a bagel onto the holder and that over the top it's edited enemy. Sure, this is done on purpose. But it's so jarring when he's placing the bagels it's edited to be so loud where he's just like. Yeah. You know, so fucked during her whole that is like this loud like steel sounding bagel hitting its oh, God, they go boy cancelled. Mike. Well, they'll my God. This this is just such a piece of so people probably we should just know should never watch. This do not right ninety even as a hate watch. It's just it's it's draining. Maybe watch the sex scene. Yeah. The sex the sex scene is on you to. The rest, you should have your listeners tell you. They like that sexy because I can't ima-. I don't understand why it's top ten worst. I listen made by a man. Yeah. Oh. Doesn't come and a woman does. Yeah. This is the coast six you've ever seen flowers. I truly the more talking about it. Like that was I was on board for that. And you never get to see a women. Come onscreen, very. Yes. Ever true. So that at least their son. It also, you know, everyone involved in this movie was a man cannot fi hope. So I was I was like a woman wrote on this. I don't want to know about it. I was like is this going to be yet? Another Kathryn Bigelow betrayal of her gender. No. It was directed by a man produced by men written by a man. Composed cinematograph. Everything is not and distributed by Miramax, rapists. Top to bottom. Yeah. I'm not implying everyone who worked on this movie. The last thing, I guess I had to say about it. It's like technically the temptation in this movie is supposed to be sex, but the movie completely complaints sex with women like they treat them like they're the same thing. So women are the temptation, and they like embody the temptation of sex and nothing else. We didn't even talk about that scene where it's like, I think his last day or next to his last day of his Val. And he's just like seeing naked women all over the street. You see all these topless women so much like male game. He's cinematography in this movie. And it's just like are you funded? It was filmed a nightmare Zeke. Yeah. He was like running through the city like there too many titties. I also think that if the boob world were made today, it would be asked world. That's just my oh. I think it would. Rendered. Let's remake it. It's not for everyone baby. Hey this movie passes. The Bechtel gesture doesn't there are women talking in it. However, they're always talking about Matt and his sex life. There are I counted five different conversations between Erica and Maggie Jilin hall's character who's I don't know if we learned her name ever, but they talk five different times about Matt every single time. It's always like, oh, you met this guy. Oh, he gave you high five. Oh, he gave you an orgasm. Oh, it's your first time. Oh, he brought you a give hall is a fucking plot machine. Only reason we know anything about Erica at all is because the cyber nanny job is a plot element to get her to be mad at him. Because that's how she learns about. Otherwise. I don't think we would've learned about the one fact that we know about her in their journey to being in love is this job that is only. Device Bessette that like in the writing of the movie that Cybernet anything was added in later when they're like, oh, how did she find out? Oh, this would make internet. This is also the same director as Heather's yes, I saw that day. Well, should let's read it on our nipple scale zero five nipples this gets like negative forty nipples and forty ass cheeks. We're being asked cheeks into I'm gonna do negative forty nipples forty butts. Okay, then trips off the tongue. Sure for temples, forty forty nipples and forty five is my reboot. Very white movie takes place in San Francisco. And yet everyone is white. There's like a Cup. I think she that actors Shannyn Sossamon is mixed. I know she's at least partially Filipino. But she is hot shit who would never find out enough about air. She's carrying something else. What else does she she's in rules of attraction? She's in a Knight's tale isn't a bunch of movies right around this time, and then never seen or heard from again. This was probably the last straw. I can't do this anymore. Be a very very white very hetero movie. And. Yeah. Everything about it. Every fucking last moment of this movie is a disaster. Well, thank you so much joining sorry again for having made you watch this movie, you know, but then iced or on. I know where can people follow you online? Is there anything you would like to plug? Yeah. I mean. Listen to my if you like podcast, maybe listen to my podcast, it's called gender fluids. And it's about sex and gender. But my podcast co host is a trans transjet, comedian, Austen smart, and she and I are the most disgusting comics in Austin. And then we started a podcast together where we talk about all kinds of gender and sex stuff. But don't listen if you're easily offended. And then you know, you go to aerial Isaac. Norman dot com. A R E L L E. I put up my shows in anything that I'm doing in Austin. I have a show called off script that is the third Saturday of every month at the fallout theater. And it's it's just this show where we do stand up, but the audiences encouraged to heckle, and I give out prizes to people who are funny at it. And it and some people are like, oh is it mean, and I'm like, well, some people are mean, but I usually kind of like just make fun of them. And it's we try to make it into more of an interactive just fun time on so Austin Bechtel heads go check out the show. And yeah, you can follow me on Twitter. Poop tampon is that real hell, you can you believe one had taken that incredible. The victory for the culture. Amazing. You can follow us. Unfortunately, our handle is not poop Tampa because it was taken you took it, but you can't falls at Bechtel cast on all the platforms. Patriots Maitree on go to patriot dot com slash beco- cast and sign up for our matriarch. It's five dollars a month. And you get two bonus episodes every single month t public for all of our merch are awesome designs, feminist icon rise of the matriarch, easy except that shit. Good that at t- public dot com slash the Bechtel cast and resume yacking. Yeah. Yeah. Finally, okay. Yeah. Let's. Go fuck. Yeah. Bussed are nut. Both those not to bus my own. Same. I'm bus my own. Let's get out of here. We go masturbate. All right on the next. Ron burgundy podcast. This is actually exciting. You've got Mr Peter Dink Lynch. He's Chang's impersonal poetry, actually. So a lot of people actually find poetry interesting. Can we put the sound machine away series thrown of games game of thrones Ron in any surprises? We can expect from Tylenol Lancaster, curious minister. Iheart radio is number one for podcasts. And it's easy to see. Why? Thank the Ron burgundy podcast on the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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EPISODE #038: Sound the alarm! The Deep Dive Microcast is back! Manda gets historical over the Battle of Midway!

The Deep Dive Podcast

05:20 min | 1 year ago

EPISODE #038: Sound the alarm! The Deep Dive Microcast is back! Manda gets historical over the Battle of Midway!

"Hello divers coming to you from a stalled the whole studio deen. Welcome to another. Deep dive micro cast. My Name Is Manda Aka the man. delorean okay my name is is not the end of Laurean. Don't George Lucas. So a few micro casts ago. Tom talked about the battle. Streaming services like you know Netflixing Netflixing Hulu and now Disney plus throwing their hat into the game. which by the way who else is obsessed with baby yoga but okay? I know it's on his name. Okay let me get back to what else so. Tom talked about that battle. I and then I give you a brief overview of another battle the battle of midway as you may know a new epic war movie from Roland. Emmerich was released Veterans Day. This year its namesake is a crucial time during World War. Two which saw Americans triumph over over the Japanese. Turn the tide in their favor and forever rewrite history speaking of history. Let's start there. Did I just ask why they call it mcvay. No we'll ask ask okay anyways. It's called the IT's about equidistant. Between Asia and the United States I I midway it's unincorporated territory belong to the United States despite being part of the Hawaiian stretch. It's definitely not part of Hawaii. It's kind of weird. In a limbo state. The nineteen forty one profiler was attacked. Of course we all know what happened in Pearl Harbor many. Many many servicemen servicemen died many casualties of civilians as well. Who lived on the island? The Americans decided to carry out retaliation in the form of the doolittle raid so named for its commander James Doolittle. Japan suffered minimal damage during this rate while America's morale instantly sore the Japanese state began to show doubt when it came to its naval strength. Anthony how much the United States would be controlled traffic and naval supplies etcetera things that are important during an epic wartime. Japan decided to conduct with their own. They decided to go radio silent in an attempt to keep the attack secret. Japanese challenged America with four of its destroyer stories ships. These ships carry planes. Think top gun. The Japanese suffered many casualties. He's the Americans suffered more casualties but despite this the United States came out. Victor Roland Emmerich is a German film director with many Titles under his name some dealing with historical time such as the Patriot with Mel Gibson which I personally love or the more signs science fiction flick like the much the Independence Day and recent interview with BBC History Emmerick stated the he had a personal connection to the film because he believed it was his duty to keep telling the stories of World War Two he also had an uncle who had never met but was a German fighter pilot during World War Two in the interview with the BBC Extra History podcast and Mike also stated that he tried to use the words from folks who said them just perhaps not in the context in which they were said the film's credibility comes in the form of using names Iran soldiers and it's big action scenes while the point is somewhat fictionalized. I think that has to be that way. Modern Times in order to wrap in the audience the project took nearly thirty. I used to fund and produce. It is currently a decent hit with audiences around the world having earned an a plus rating on cinema score. Well let's just say. It's not pro harbored. Josh Josh Hartnett. You're going to be a dad. Line doesn't wreck people leave them in a sobbing pile of tears. Who then have to deal with it for the rest of their adult life? Oh just mean okay. You didn't read teen beat to never mind but anyways this film as successor in both film history and in World History Emmerick is clear view of what happened back in nineteen forty the battle of midway a time which no way should forget all right. That's your brief Overview we'll be back with another full length podcast very soon. Thanks for your patience. I just want to say we really missed you over the Thanksgiving holiday. We did record an episode. But let's just say Kinda ran afoul. Okay Tom you can edit that. If you you onto Kibuye we'll see here. The clips used the deep dive. MICRA CAST are meant for educational purposes and not to infringe on any existing copyrights. The deep dive lounged theme was arranged and performed by Robert acorn based on the original composition by Ryan Blaney deep dive micro. Gas is a production of a talk talk.

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Halloween H20 (1998) Animal sex with Alan Parrish

Spoilt Milk Movie Podcast

48:12 min | 2 years ago

Halloween H20 (1998) Animal sex with Alan Parrish

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. Hello and welcome to the spoilt milk movie podcast Herod spot milk. We liked to discuss dissect and destroy guilty pleasure movies. And then we decide whether the film is truly spoilt milk over ascended into fine looks Yoris cheese. So without further ado, let's go. Warning boost podcast is full of sport was for the tar toll feature on this bottle on which from the start. If you've never seen the film or your funded by Bob on grudge. Which? Hoppy warrant. Yeah. Hello. Another episode of the spoilt note can movie podcast where today as always joined by Kathi on the Hobo Cutty. This is here. Dove in me Lueneburg Halloween. And then Hobo this is a Halloween. Duck Halloween wall. Halloween. Doug. Doc. Killer vampire because a catch up when in was. I was involved. Maybe we supposed to catch up and blood went in. You have in those an experiment on how he was made. Yeah. Just a duck. He wasn't. But then he became a vampire like you supposed to be in ketchup. And then moves blood went on his bacon sandwich. Why why with the mecca Dokie cat? Joe now. Now, you may get. Awesome. I just did my Beden load of ketchup about y'all. Catch a weird. Eating habits gravy. Telling me on every about low Hobo. It's not. It's not nice. All right. Okay. So today to talk about how lean hey, ch twenty two. Walter. Yeah. Me and Hobo wrote about this day. Just like is it called Halloween hates to. Oh. And hobo. No. You would hear. It's called Halloween hates twenty. It's Halloween Halloween. Twentieth. Says that show film Halloween twentieth. So if you didn't know it tells you and our still is it. Hey, ch two but still stupid title. Because Eva you call. It hates to twenty stands for Halloween twenty or you just go that Halloween twenty you don't Halloween Cohen hates twenty because that's how colon Halloween twenty. And he didn't even up years later. It makes no sense. Why are you saying colon? Just. Sign out. That looks shocker. Wow. Sure that the shock. Don't get should describe sex moves online. Okay. Into hollowing hate sunny can tell me. We're not doing top three this time before we can do it. Can I give you all your Halloween name for Halloween? This is this is by Chris Simpson's. I know. Nice. So. Do yours cham-. So it's the first let review first name and the months that you a bomb, see and July. So yours is egg gobble chops jobs. I'll take and Hobo y'all says. Smelly child. Smelly child. Oh my God. Deft meets meets knit. That sounds accurate. And not deaf is in like some things dad. Oh. Death by dying. Now feel bad. But deaf people come on K. That's only find sometimes the even here. People coughing. Jazz. At least like people get to hit the vibrations climate. But if the new thing to instead of clapping, waving your hands and death people not getting joint, vibration. So this is about the story was reading abou- in Manchester university. What are they doing the band clapping because it triggers PTSD? A lot of people in Manchester with PTSD. I mean Manchester's a bit of. But I didn't think that bad everyone's like Benham trauma. People have been in Vietnam. More don't clock there. In Manchester considering. Possibly right. Okay. Well, we've got something to talk about the fall. We onto the main feature which is doing a run up to Halloween. You may have noticed this on Instagram. We've been posting video free day catty. It was y'all tonight. But not yet, no shit. You have to do. In the toilet. Things take no way. Well, we all picked ten films each to do it today. Ruined from the first row up to the first. So we're just going to talk about the ones that we've put forward so far, and then which on halter, a special place and your heart. For nice Obama candle films. I okay Boko. Yeah. That's that's just to my move. It his worth in pages. I can't remember ones that I I know that. Some of them the most recent moments species species deep blue sea. Yeah. The saying that do and then needed somewhere one add never heard of what was hot. It never had old film for my eighties. Oh, yeah. The old one V ghost house house. I watch as a kid in it really freaked me out that was one of the earliest ones that freaked freaked me out. I want to do one, but it's not really a horror film. But it did scare me. Don't know. Okay. Don't element. I'm gonna do it. Schedule them. But it's not supposed to be a hurtful is scary. Because it's like teddy Toby's feature movies like God. No, no, okay. Then. Yeah. It's fine. Big fat world until it obeys. Yeah. No. I'm saying, you might have meant difficulties and so. And how you might be. You might have been ask him a question. Just issues death meets Nick. It's okay to approach fees things. Title sniff me in your so if you pick one of these films that you would want more people to have seen which one would it be? I think don't you pick. I stupidly forgot about until very recently because I've recorded oh, my now, it's not going to go in. And it's our point. Are you on this morning? We were just talking about this cheating. 'cause I remember, and I haven't watched it for a long time. So I'm gonna go back and watch it. But I remember it being just a really nice. It was I don't trust your opinion. Why after FX? Have you watched any of these runs that suggested we'll talk quieter? It's about I think it's been war. Punch of numb getting bro. I don't know if Ashley is anymore because Japanese film, so but yeah, a bunch soldiers stationed in this. It's a bit like Netflix movie came out recently, where they they hold himself in a place for a while is bad screams her and I liked annihilation. The Hobart self misplace was like ghosts everywhere. And because it's a Japanese our movie pagosa creepiest for. Yeah. I think I've seen Jay HARA J J pulp Zahn hell. No, no, Jill listen to Jay problem about k pop now. Right. So called our point point in the letter. Okay. Yeah. I definitely recommend it. But same I've been watching this. I'm going to go again and make sure it's good in my mind is hot. All right. I'm gonna go next interest because not so. So limit. So far been role, which is a cannibal firm, the bobber Doke and lay is it. Bubba daca. Paducah will the rhyme with Bach and low pay. Puga Dade them and Australian person they're like, it's whether it's in a look or Tina book, South African. So I'll say Bobby because Rams book, right? Look. I've seen it. So say what? Yeah. This is one of the I know need to say, but. I haven't shame on you. You did which is a new veritably FM. So OPD grade Busan the witch and the guest. Yeah. I haven't seen trench. Upgrade I wanna watch those though. But I think people should watch great because I think the have enough love, but upgrade was fucking mental. And I watched it on a train as well. And it's extremely violent which is always a bit uncomfortable. Some guy gets his head spur in half as there was an all day next to me. But yeah. But yeah, deers ground. Just come about three months ago. And I described it as being like if you're upset by the latest robo cop film watches instead because it's much. Upset as in like, no the runner dies in this his dog shit. I think him why does our Bikaner advocate hired for anything. Upside didn't think the maneuver is complete dog shit. I think just competitive edge. And it's on a vigil in. It's pre cookie just pointless is this where. Left of his body was like his face a finger. Yeah. Think. Number. Yeah. I think it's got some females are very glad they took it in directions tack on. It's got some good bits in it. Some good action beats but. Yeah, generally, it's it's not it's not great botch. Upgrade instead, Kathy. I mea countless all of my films. You fall. You missed all the mist woman in black Africa. You did woman won't move high-powered, Harry Potter and the woman good. Yeah. Cowie poem woman cut American werewolf in London classic and and take entity which was on. I don't think I listened to this entity because got to know is the one where where we're terrified Tim. At lights out. Nice. Did you? I love lights out scared me. So which would you say need more love. Her is going to be a toss up between woman in black and lights out who what she guy for alga lights out. Not a lot of people know about. It's a good one member. Sure, scaring me. Asia is just really creepy. And the the weird creature lady is just art. And it's like plays on everyone's fair of like the dark when you're a kid and stuff and then it's ties in with imaginary friends as well. 'cause this creature thing is supposed to be like their parents like hurt them mums. Imagine my friend when they were a kid. I think it's called like Susan awesome. This is called. He's got like a normal late name this ghost war and all the people to jam summit light and lie. Yeah. Cavs name into flaw ball and just folks you up when you turn your lights off. But honestly when I made that little Instagram story as me ten analyze eight eight genuinely terrify may like downstairs in the basement bedroom into Madonna Jen downstairs ten the big light on come to turn the lights off on the stairs. And I'm just like net. It is the best horrors. Very get you using your own head against him. So vessel like turn up the light. And all you need is what if something is behind me and then suddenly just propagates tournament. 'cause like my my bed is like here. And then the spot musters is there. So if I'm like laid in bed to the side as you do all I can see the bottom of the staff and the Cobra. So if I just saw a headlight. I would have this. Can get out. I live in a basement. These are things we should keep in mind. When we make are definitely which is definitely going to happen, right? Yes. Definitely need to have our movie planning session with him. And I wanna give another child out this shell out. It's time. Ally Roth though who have gone mixed feelings about program on the moment called the history of horror where he's going to different genres, and it did an episode on sambas one on Sasha killers. And it's quite good. He's got guests on light Tarantino pops up every so often and sex machine from from dawns in it. This is what the wall shipyard horror feel Halloween. With team worse because he already don't on. It was at now. It's. Sabine guys over. Yeah. I just wondered if he'd always going to his face in a real way, Indiana Jones. I wish that happened as older. So we all just became living. I do this. Very much just know it happened slowly. Over time you face the slips off you SCO. And then you just go that's kind of oftens anyway. Now, I'm saying when you live imagine what can open as like a cheek on your pillar and light. In your mouth, it is you just can't say because it's very small the look in the gone all science in Iraq. Okay. Well, that's enough. Shortly talk about Holloway, lean H two. Two. Scary out from. Hello, Moe, come back to part, one of the spoiled milk movie podcast today. We're talking about the Wayne h twenty I'm so happy about it was more our body. Hello. And we're concerned. Catchy. What's say about? I'm breaking the rules. You've gotta out. Now. This is why we don't have have some. We can eat. Oh, yeah. We got Aaron. Because you can't hear it doesn't mean. It's not happening. Then I mean. I mean. As climate change is real people. Now is now it is kill me evidence. It's been so mean, I'm Tober and warm as an Australia Australian different hemisphere. Maybe the pundits standing up side down. Australia's game called NATO's actually happen opposed to shift planet, the whole planet isn't tear down the magnetic use hose job the whole planet. Doesn't new slightly. Oh, you mean because it's spinning on access. So it's a bit because it's like a no steroid making things don't know science on me because it's like a the planet's bevy spare tire middle. Shaming Allah, plumbing, nature, just saying how gravity works. If you spend bus enough, you'll get a better boardroom middle. So yes. Yes. Good tonight. So he's not perfect. It's bit board you show. It means things are spinners normally bit wobbly. So you're right, Kathy. Even with your fake science talk. Halloween makes twenty about. Makes twenty now we're going. Yeah. See I wanna say, hey, you guys. Welcome say hates twenty might say. I hate to allocate is. What is it some nine? Oh, two one. Oh, Beverly Hills hills. You know, something. Someone who pointed out to me said they reason it was code Halloween hates to roll with that. Because it's the seventh following film. And the ph levels of water is seven. Listening to this. If that was you your Doma. Could be not twenty years after the first year. I mean, why is code eight zero on top of the twenty years why I hates to other than because this shit ever named this share. So basically, it's twenty years after. Forgotten name Laurie strode through. Gets fucked up by a brother, Michael, or is it brother? Our love account. For the brick Condit gone back and bin Laden that was. This after a second one. And then they got rid of everything else up. There is on. That's come out with just been like, no, forget everything. In this one is still. Yeah. I'm pretty sure if watch this and different one, I'm pretty sure she's like, oh, it's my brother. But now in all the interviews. She's like yet. It's not my brother, you salt on sold as Pippa. Let's see what happens with in the new one because why they felt the need to get rid of the second Halloween was. This new film. They want to have the rock can be shit. But the only thing really changes because it come can use for same night. So you only thing it really adds is that he's over. Because when they were the first one they weren't like. Brother, more sneakily like hold that back until the second of that. And there was no need for it. We didn't need to know. It was a brother. I mean, it may as a potentially good point as we come through the end of this film with about I think, I think you can work. Well, so why are they now? I don't care if it's me mom. Just some lady that amount straight trying to stop me. I'm gonna stop step back. If it was moose trying to kill you. Let's different is not. Need then you care when you know, even. Rip out my neck, okay? If I if outside on the street right now if there was two lorries on both sides roads hurtling down the road. And there was a dog are a person add save the dog. Yeah. No different to the doubt, turn evil and trying to kill you, say Maddox evil. They're even trying to kill you versa different scenario when choosing to save a human a dog over human the differences, moose is like the size of a cat. Yeah. And Michael Myers isn't. So if moose tried to bite my face off or Rimma throw out, I'm pretty sure I could just put you in a box like in a cap carrier, and you had to make the decision and come on female saving the human eye that situation. Why would because there's no way you're getting a cash reward from adults? Are you worried you're going to be human? Yeah. Like like a price in dog. And like the woman that the people that own it is like oh my God. When I'm walking left. And right. Does it have like a Ritz got rosettes on them? So michael. So twenty years after I guess all star stab and Laurie is like the headmistress of the school. She's got kid. Josh hartland. Joseph God Levinson. It starts, isn't it? With jay. Yes. So my Komis breaks into lorries old psychiatrists south's to steal the file and find out where she lives and. Got old. Joseph garden Levitt goes into the house because neighbor's house since are. I'll I'll patrol it for you. Make sure there's no one in there. She's looking she got killed because on the rules for have in reverse power. That would have been a big fine just saying. Art windows, three point one at this point. No internet at this time. The seven is. In the new one in twenty twenty years ago. The halfway point. The first one seven eight eight and this one's twenty eight the middle of the four years. Does not. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Can three point one day. So she does she end up getting killed in. Remember, I know the houses. So pitch and this hockey stick. Yeah. Steals a bear yet. Because she does a small thing when she goes back in when to swing TC's, but he's been killed. She liked gets out there. She doesn't get out. You know because he gets killed in there. So. John. Charted gopher Joseph Gordon level. Around the house goes park is like everything's fine. She goes she goes into the house immunised make go into his house to like drink this beer that God. And she goes in she fine him don't she she goes in. She finds the files in the MSN. She sees Michael Myers in the house. And she's like folk she gets out of the house. She goes around Joseph garden Levitz house and she just walks engine. It would knock on the door. She said she said like running around trying to find out what's going on. She finds Joseph Cotten love it with ice skate in his face defectors. How nice. She then runs to go out the house 'cause she sees Michael Myers. She runs the house. Show pens at all the guy. John Joseph gov. Mate falls into the doll with a knife in his back. Mike Myers comes into the house. She's like, oh my God. She's trying to get out of the house. She hits Michael miles with some share. She can't get out the house, and then the police turn go into her house, and she she's a scream at the place, this place, cut hair. Then it's Bush's already smashed the window because the copper cycle. Oh, yeah. See much window. He's driving off. Yeah. Wouldn't it? Michael my out dry drive in the first one the like a bit in the first one may seem pulling nosy. But when when is life Dylan out, Dr jump mum American cars. Here's put into drive in. Visit car pulling out of the house where they can see a broken window, and they don't go driving away any committee. There wasn't anything blocking Ican very easily. See this car really slow so say, so. Movie quiet car. So we this introduction to Michael Myers where thanks retelling minute. I was like really those appointments just kidding. Yeah. What next? For that said racist. Nine minutes. So then we call to the school, and she's changed their name is. And she he asks how it's Clooney boyfriend. And yes, son, Josh Hartnett, who's in Michelle Williams on my hair, eyebrows, nasty. Oh my God. Michelle, Michelle Williams eyebrows are nasty getting capitals. Binding on about going off to Yosemite. I was the folks do. Camping trip to let you Sam. Is it a national park? Okay. Then is supposed to be happening. Then good happening. Maybe maybe in the late nineties. It's still. I think. Because that's where the where there's an active volcano under it as well. Vulgar, yellow Yellowstone Yellowstone. Yellow pot. I know. One of the backgrounds of the MAC is of some really big rock a big cliff. It's big stone. Mainly because it's a one always one five that background. And they think that I'm into climbing. Big big face cliff? This changing. All the time. It's it's a mind machine work machine to change anything. So they have like a little bit of like a dial Emma because is it Josh Hartnett character Congo to your some of them. He wants to go yourself. No, I didn't she. And then the right anyway, I can't go now and they'll kit from Jumanji. Animal sex, which I thought was really old. At it from. In Allen parish or plate deal. The kid like righty. The last thing I saw him was German. And then he was in this. I see some wrong animal sex before this film. It was the with them, whatever. So they end up staying at home lorries time. Then she did you love the scene as she was like another white wine another Chardonnay and done that one of. One of. The way just like judges like you've got four wooden crazy. And then Jesus like. How do how does get out of personal is already out because he's the beginning nurses throat. Do we find? Trevor find some kind of exposition about this post crashed also. I can't remember anything like that. In this one lie square originally meant to be an exposition scene where they the kids especially it was supposed to be dead. Oh, yeah. Because that's just like no is dead. Bevis a say over Lhasa. So he was on the ground burning and not moving, but I never went open checked and always double tie. It's sexual no is some from some Bill. And your favor from Deep Blue's. He's in this as well and Oku. Yeah. I saw this and spoilers after watching this film. I fought it's like a load of films where at our co Jay is essentially the only guy in there. But he the final defeats pizza troupe of not being first guy to die or diet. Oh because. You're seeing the diamond look it up. Now, it's just those films. Nice action comedies a feelable after. It's been a long. Hello. Yeah. But no, I was looking for HAMAs where he was like every night is he was committed. And then going this trope I'm going to really happy about that. For just wasn't anything. Let's bring cool j. Especially should be sweet novels about Mellon. The only thing is is is why was a Bevis stereotype. She was a bitch wasn't very supportive. No, she wasn't. But she was all very like damn homie. The angry. Shouts African-American wife. You're going down that route because he was quite like diverse. You don't get many male characters who right sexy novels. Ooh. Hobo your lovely trope of people reading a book and telling the story came up in this again, didn't it like you mean, the teacher was covering the topic Rankin Stein. Consi-? It happens in the majority of films because you all meant to sell the premise of the film, very early all, and you can do in very subtle way. Front can start anything like Michael maya's likes comes back from the dead a lot. It was a loose thing. Saying Frankenstein had to kill his mom. Stor. The issue was there saying that one of the kids boys under. Well is standing. That's on him over deficit his Munster did because leading face to do death. That everything the he didn't face up to the monster. He created sooner Frankenstein for Halloween saying she awful your brothers, Maryland. Say like should've stepped up sooner. Yeah. The day was bald. It didn't make sense because she didn't she didn't have anything to do. Maybe it's her son. So I think we'll call that for for part one more combat late and talk about some of the killings. Hello and welcome to part. Two of the Halloween. Hate twenty spoiled milk movie podcast. Happy Halloween guys. This isn't commit out on how much I think it's coming out like couple of days before between a note to. I'll save my happy halloween's for day. People who do that Christmas shopping now MO, it's all miss shops. This annoys me. Addison Christmas shopping today. Insane all prepare prepared to fail fail to prepare. Definitely something you do. Yeah. He do it because it's tidy. I don't wanna like run up to December. Oh shit all gifts up. Gotta get I on Christmas Eve sometimes how can you afford to them all because we get save. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. I'm doing recommend saving right? Okay. How? Wanted to kick off with the little cameo. Did. You know is the Jamie Lee Curtis is mom, Camille. No, John Lee from psycho. Did you find out that way it bit where she was at the gate and older lady was like everyone deserves one good screen? Bad line. But in that, y yeah. So that's real life. Mom. There's a lot of psycho references 'cause when she said that line. And played up. Buster. Some. Platano hang on a second. Some broad the opening shot is of goat of like in psycho. There's a bit where someone Cho's psycho on purpose. Like, it's very McAfee at UH. Sluts, like ruling, coz, Jamie, Jamie. The psycho people not call people psychos without residence. Psycho also Bates motel reference. Yeah. Definitely wanna tell you what it is. Don't know what the line every time soccer weapons America free. So if you're already do night, and if you make a base motel weapons, then someone coined the main character psycho who is related to make out Senate. The film's out links, though, is oh, you're a psycho like, mama. Oh, you're crazy. They clearly went for your side. Kasai co is a bit over the top book because psycho killer. She wasn't a psycho kid. She just trauma to Allah did very jump of chevette. She had liked PTSD all the night. Do not clump narrow. That's gonna weigh my hands. I'm seeing people. What was why would they watching scream to fell? Sykes super close to that came out Scholley scream to came six months because in one of a previous films. They like. I think the first green is like a Halloween referencing av on the TV somewhere. Probably. I'm pretty sure about. Talk about. How Jamie Lee is only went only showed a tits rent you legit. So it was just too old. I'm going to watch screen, and then they made some really weird raping dudes joke. Remember, George Clooney guy, Georgia guy came in. And was I you go still watching and know, we're just gonna talk some guys and bring him back into our room Raipur mall. Some. Remember, I was just like weird. And the teachers decide you go is a guidance counselor as well. It could have been like that sound cool. Just some guidance volume. Porno. But you know, there's not that much to talk about left in the films for about seven minutes. This is weird. But we did his slow build two of Jason. Moniz Mike Myers which. Okay. So. Yeah. Like Mayes then. Yeah. It's all very quick towards then we really right? This was about Don just wrote within Don seventy seven minutes. When was the last time you ship film? That was seventy seven minutes. Was it? The reason one time was so short is because virtually the film had a supply of detectives of the star who are investigating. They were a subplot trying to find my mind because. Don't do something about it. In like, ten minutes in awesome. Then. Yeah. Maybe often they were doing a decent job of it. Here. They were tracking down like minds prevent guessing Mohsen ending. Not very there won't seen. So I didn't think they had. Characters build them. Yes. For had sniffer dogs. Look. They they called Mark and dildo. Copa things. I liked in this film on a couple of things one. I didn't like the mask. I thought the my school to bitch shit compared to like the original warm, which is just a William Shatner. Mass turned inside I'm paying it. Why I thought that was better than this on bodied like some of the debts, and they'll quite quite good quite gruesome, I'm trying to think of one that was memorable. The way other was a bird with the light bulb insider any like slit the back of legs achilles. Ever feel really good way to make me. I didn't get was when they will try to get into the house like Josh Hartnett, and his eyebrows girlfriend trying to get into the house, and she drops the keys and late. Michael Mayes is that just like his arm and just like why did around like flailing, and she's up the keys on the outside of the gay. And he can clearly see that. Why don't you bend down and getting it first place? Wound little bit before would figure out to get into a house, and you can you don't need to wound pick the Keizo you put gay liberal. That's where he did. He did it after flailing around for like a minute if he was doing straight away they would have fought to try and get into adult soon excite doom trying to get into before even got to the gate and banging as dislike flailed around bit picks. The case is that like trying to put like an old school k into a Yale lock. And I'm light drive a cowboy opened goddamn game. Right up to the gay and hope and like a spear. Wait, remitted Hct. We've seen you try and play Darth. And I was at mazing. Got vision in one is. I mean, it pretty much gets to the end like, Sean pope, Josh, John. I think he gets him in their life. Yes. Subsequent leg did quite like the bit where that girl out to get in the lift with a dead boyfriend. I thought I was like this pretty horrible. This kind of ICA while she tells them too often, she she's I drive drive kept my. And then she smashes the thing for the gate control panel for the gay. And then then Michael. And then she sat us getting like crazy. She like she pulls out the drawer knives. And then just like picks knife or. Do as Edward Scissorhands on. I would fully like FREDDY Krueger them night, though. Slash double slash Sam, find like some ops and light knives to the end of her and just like me nice sticks. The whole last bit where she faces off against him. Really good fights. I'm flipping the tables. Member home bit with her stealing van with his opposed dead body. Of it. Too far for me. Christly. She win. A sad and stuff. Why why didn't she she already gone? Why didn't you get into the back of that vanish you in the face like seven times on low that clip in his ad because because he didn't have good on her sheet. She stole it off the placement. And you're like stunned stunned by her she gets into the car into the ambulance coroner's van thing, she gets into it lays, you can clearly see is like that body in the choir. And she just lean over the thing. The dolls plea Nova shoot me in the face a couple times. And then there she's don't lie after lie in space Copson Faucheux in on a corpse. She's gonna she's gonna get maybe she was back on the Rona to kill him. And then clear off. She she like aims to get down that fucking cliff patient changes life, and I was. When I was. Hundred yards and kill them on the front of the bit ways. I will know then she goes off Poseidon need pin. A really good mobile. But then the thing at the end is like. What does she do? She talks. With taxes ten no from some point during refined. She had it. How did she? She was wrapped him onto them space. Cleveland clothes swirling. Trauma and came and I hit his space cloak cannot ask and see what no. Attack gonna leave you about in space because if if someone claps never and she's got paid. Around page with the axe. Say she chops. His head off. Good thing is L L J still live in got shot by George Clooney did get shot didn't graze hand. And then it's kinda happily ever after that point. So what did we think? I'm going. I do it. I'm going. I I thought this was dog shit. Otar dog shit. Nothing happened. It was just very. Like the needed to make a film because they needed to keep the franchise alive. It was like, oh, it's a nineteen. We've got like scream we've got. I know what you did last summer. Let's try and bring Halloween back and like makes himself like teen slasher type thing like get Josh Hartnett inex- like a heart throb it in time. Now like, do it do it. Well. Saints spoiled big time. So it seems fake you seem that you'd be glad they out the extra minutes of. Honestly, if if there was the minute small, I would be conjuring. Michael Mayes a spirit. Slit my throat. I right. All right. Enjoyed it. Like nothing happened. I felt like I put it on an Alex stone. That was nice like an hour and seventeen minutes. Walk. Kind of film is an hour and seventeen minutes, isn't animated. I was just that's all right. Yeah. On the surface if you actually look at the proper cash cow piece of shit. They've just tried to. You say revamp the series get some mileage out of an old could have changed the mask to something else and giving him a spare instead of knife. And it'd been something different. But though, I know we'll make it hollowing which I didn't ever problem with them making it Halloween is just make something happen in it. Yeah. Catholic serious cheese. I like this especially the whole will MB allying stunned off and Jamie curse was really good stunned up against him ridiculous van pin. Bit. Was it worked for me? I was like. Yeah. For care. Take out a little bit and emotional piece at the end where maybe he's trying to plead. Really they David thing where she almost boy. Why she killed him? She killed him. She's like I said put. No, just no, I don't need that shit. Yeah. Covered PTSD. We really good. Say this because the dog shit expedition, it wasn't well, it could have been a good film. And I liked the short one time. I think more films need to make sure have got it in them. Sure. One time and then the add things they need to. But no is everything in between those good moments, which is. Haapala? So it spoilt milk. I feel like you just don't like saying look serious cheese. You. You're like say because I can't afford. So Hala weaned hate to h HR Halloween. Film is spoilt milk. And we'll be back soon. Franek step Assode move. Laughing man. No. And then I did a ghost noise. Oh. Tricky. Doc. It's just me. Be scary. Predict away. Six inch false game. Me my table. I'm just gonna fade fucking. Fucking. Don't forget to like an subscribe to the spoil milk movie podcast, you piece of fucking shit.

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EP 12 - REINVENTION with Coach Jay Wright (Villanova University Mens Basketball Head Coach & 2x NCAA Champion/Team USA Basketball Assistant Coach)

LightHarted Podcast with Josh Hart

1:36:09 hr | 1 year ago

EP 12 - REINVENTION with Coach Jay Wright (Villanova University Mens Basketball Head Coach & 2x NCAA Champion/Team USA Basketball Assistant Coach)

"Welcome everyone to another episode of the light-hearted podcast. I'm your host and john gracious time. I'm your host josh heart and my brother co host <hes> madame menace here with me of course obviously i'm very gracious. It is every week and this is a <hes> a busy week for. I guess for both of us. Both of us got a lot on our plate in terms of moving so those kind of get into that this is our were recording this on tuesday night the night before the episode comes out sorry miles. We're getting you these these intros pretty late. This is our last last night as roommates technically ever. I'm leaving tomorrow night. I was like oh tomorrow yeah. This is the last night i didn't even think about that. I was thinking yesterday was or tomorrow was going to be no. I i try to grasp some some some dinner brought it in. We played warcraft all night yeah yeah. I'm like i'm like a level seven warrior or warrior. I guess what is i mean. What is it or quarrier. It's bro. I'm still trying to figure it out like my my one of my best friends bass from back home swells as kind of got me on larry nassar playing word of war graph so it's <hes> i can't even begin to explain it but i have no idea what i'm doing. I was like looking over there watching plan and just like i don't. I don't really know anything about the game. It looked like you were just running around swimming. Yeah bro really fighting a wild boar as a really what i'm doing right now brooke because i'm not sure sure if i'm going to be in his word worker i think for much longer this because it's it's a lot of this running around aimlessly trying to do these quests waiting for different animals to respond so i can kill them footer quests and all of that <hes> <hes> no actual animals are being hurt their my word work play so it's a lot. I don't know if this is going to be a constant thing for me but i mean i come some time. So it's a box you got to check. If you wanna be a true gamer though you got to go sir actually on the p._c. Gaming yeah i guess it is i guess i checked the box now so we'll see how long i'm into you should try league now for the next box. We're looking for new game bro so i mean i'm for whatever thing about overwatch wjr trying while right now so i'm whatever anyone got any suggestions. Let me know both going to be affiliate this weekend. That'll be fun yeah. Eh we made in america action. It'd be fun <hes>. I'm what am i going there. I'll go into philly thursday night. Oh no one tomorrow night right wednesday night on a red. I get there thursday so i can work out thursday friday and then yeah going to the whole festival <hes> <music> saturday sunday which would be fine. Roddy rich is going to talk about made in america for for the listeners of mine. Oh it's a huge <hes> music music festival thrown by or presented by <hes> rock nation the the ben franklin parkway for those that don't know or watts movie rocky where to rocky steps are that's where this festival so is four or five different stages and just you know smack in the middle of philly ryan middle affiliate. You just got different artists performing ning things headlined by cardi already being travis scott anderson packs going to be there roddy rich meghan stallion. The baby is world jews. He's working blue face is it is a lot of people so that'll be fun. It's always good. Icho wanted to go to philly out. I love philly and then east coast. Lot of people go to it that that we both know so. This is like our what third third or fourth year going. I wanna say i fourth yeah fourth year. In a row go to the weather is going to be a little bit better than it was last year so that's going to be a positive it's not going to be raining and muddy into and this should be a good <hes> good little getaway at least a me right before i go down in new orleans then for you just getaway by the way brown working yeah that's true but you get away from the russell hustle and bustle whatever from mali now i'm i'm going on. I'm leaving thursday and then working working at made in america <hes> throughout the weekend with one of our clients and then actually staying on the east coast just to hang out my family until until like the eighth <unk>. I'm i'm really moving in the process of moving houses right now but i'm not going to be able to live in new house until like two like two weeks from now <hes> mhm so we'll see. I'm going to see it though i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna and i'm going to be restarted tomorrow. Tomorrow's movers come in. I mean like literally from like eight to like twelve or one. I got moved in and out the house packing up doing all that stuff so man. It's this is a long process but obviously so process asir be done talked to the fans about the trouble able and the length at which the length and she had to go through will not even going through yet but we'll go through to ship your wine collection in new orleans because obviously i don't want to disobey greg like i can have the movers take it but on the wine to be in this the van climate control like ninety or one hundred eighty van and just sitting in that for a week and a half until i get down in new orleans so like having a sent this climate controlled and us is a lot of money to ship wine. I it's something that i definitely did not for c. But i mean it is. It is what it is. I guess a rather pay the you not -rageous amount of money to ship it then to risk the bottles again. I don't want to say messed up but maybe yeah so. I don't know there was a struggle trying to find somebody oughta. It was just it was a lot but hey is going to get down in new orleans and the most important aren't they yeah. I want to address something every single time we post on instagram anything whether it's the episode whatever everyone always says where's <hes> whereas lonzo when when are we getting lonzo episode like you guys don't like other episodes as we put out you tell me i don't want to jinx it but i think i think we're getting in getting next week. Possibly next week tom we've been moving some things around <hes> for this episode but <hes> hopefully next week <hes> definitely in two weeks but hopefully next who today we released that once that would be fun for now some our listeners in <hes> our new orleans listeners as has you know new new orleans pelicans so that'd be fun but don't take our word for it. We don't want to be liars but doesn't have him but it should be. You should be ready to go next week. Yeah it'll be soon. We're not trying to deprive you guys. We know how badly you want it. Just working some things out on our end. Some very exciting news and announcements surrounding the podcast will be coming out soon. It's all going to it's going to make sense but it'll be fine looking forward to that episode dropping but a before we get into who we have on the podcast today it is with a busy week for the light-hearted podcast in very productive week for or past week for the podcast we were able with to secure <hes> offer sponsor and which we will kind of get into <hes> a little bit later are we won't we all get into that right now in this episode of the podcast but definitely keep your eyes out for the sponsor is going to be fun because that's something that be interactive active with some of the listeners and guys some prizes and abilities that will win different things so <hes>. We're very excited about bet definitely stay tuned for who it is. If you have any idea the one i guess on who that is definitely tweet at us d._m. Us us <hes> do those kinds of things so <hes> is good. The official announcement will be coming soon but <hes> you know we're we're excited. We we started this this thing not too long ago and it started off as an idea that you know we just wanted to to do as a way to interact with you guys and <hes> you guys helped grow this just as much as as we did so this is a win for the whole light hearted family including you guys in <hes>. We're excited to to share more when the time comes yeah so <hes> we gotta do hard to hard before we get into the before we get into this guest. <hes> we got a couple of questions here lakers occur show land your shadow lake show land for still showing love despite you being on the pelicans now keep up the great work miss you in l._a. Josh and were your favorite pre-game songs. <hes> i missed the fans to miss you guys. <hes> i like motivate eight by <hes> jaekle <hes> i like window pane by j cole rich rich forever by roddy bridge grinding on my life by nips dreams and nightmares june the nightmares. Here's the four there's a good one. That's good enough right there so four goto ones i listen to. I don't have any favorite cream songs. Lupita underscore you twenty-six jay hart. Was it like working out with d. Wade wade was terrible worth experience in my life but now it was fun those my favorite player growing up so this would be able to work out with him and just take little aspects of his game to meet him great and being able to learn those kind of things at work on them and do my best perfect dozing the integrate those into my game would definitely great learning experience to doodo things so it was was fun definitely going to have to the lab. No where would you wait a little bit more next. All season. Ozzy now is kind of winding down amount. I'm not sure if you know d. Away trying to spend too much of his time in new orleans yeah you buy say he oh. He loves being in the gym so i know he's always in he's in l._a. Nicer weather was he's going to trade l._a. For new orleans right now with how oh hot humid it is in new orleans but <hes> we'll definitely going to be in a gym <hes> definitely next year next season so <hes> but it was amazing it. It's a great experience. <hes> i am ivan wants to know what are each of your favorite types of foods. <hes> <hes> my favorite time for food okay. If i go boozy i go stake aloe steak but then if i go like just like if i i had to have like a meal i'm going like comfort food against fried chicken. I'm gang greens. I'm gang yams mac and cheese. She some sweet potato pie as you were going to say aaa to pull off a tough me oughta pens mahmoud bro is if i'm like really like yeah. I want to get a good meal. I feel full ongoing steak fast casual intra-party. If i want like fu just ch- is an off day. I'm chilling. I'm not gonna do nothing for the rest of the day. I'm getting the group is going to give me an itis itis so it really depends on my mood. If i want something fresh and light i go sushi so i gave you four different kinds of foods but it there's really all depends on my mood okay. I think sushi's mine sushi for any of our listeners in l._a. Is a really good sushi. She's bond santa monica called kazunori and it's one of our favorite spots owned by the same do that owns sugar fish but the whole the whole restaurant is like just handrails so most sushi's like cut up this it's all i don't know why i'm explaining handrails as if you can't tell what it is but it's one big piece and they just the whole restaurant is like this little bar and then they just make fun of you and serve it to you. Susan definitely check it out. <hes> we got asked a question by an account called call daily josh heart three. I think they just post pictures of you every day the same the same picture the same fixing the same picture. That's that's kind of caution for josh question for matt question for josh. What was it like being coached by. J rate it was is good because i love coaching that can push you and get the the best out of you and kind of make you be the best player you can be and he definitely pushed myself and my teammates every day <hes> doug marrone w had a lot of times you hate him. Disliking majority respected them and ask on my experience <hes> it was a great experience for four years. I learned a lot on the corner by learn even more off the court and now i think is the most important thing and you know one of the biggest jobs at college coaches. Have this is to help those kids mature firm and turn into young adults and ask the coach where i did an amazing job on. I think he's the best coaching to business to those kind of things. So it was a great for years. I wouldn't change change it or traded for anything in the world and i'm excited to talk about him and kind of talk about history on his podcast dope <hes> and then the question format was <hes>. What is it like working with so many different cool companies companies <hes>. I'll keep a brief because i know this episodes basketball but <hes> it's a dream. It's really really cool. <hes> i think one of my favorite things is having ideas and seeing them come to life and <hes> when you when you get the chance to work with really cool brands you have a platform to to come up with ideas for them in to help their business and actually see those see those come to life and that's a really good feeling especially when they work out and everyone's happy <hes> and this on a smaller scale. This podcast is an example. It's an idea that we had and we decided to go out and do it. We're interested more than necessarily sure what was going to happen weren't necessarily sure if if you guys we're going to like it but so far. It seems seems like you do and <hes>. I think that's just that's just a really cool thing so i'm i'm grateful for every day. <hes> and that's all the heart to heart. We have at this point in time. Let's <hes> let's talk about. Our gracious guests so for me was fun. Just because <hes> interview coach right was it was cool just because i was i was in my college coach and he's someone who's been at every level and kind of really worked his way up to get to where he is and if you know him or you know the program me no he's about family he's about genuine relationships with his players <hes> his assistance some very high character and that's kind of why he where he is and got to the place that he is right now and it was really fun to kind of talk about that in unravel does things is definitely a fun listen. It's kind of just hear all the stuff that he's been through the program that he's he's built without not really sacrificing integrity or character. I think is most impressive thing. I mean you guys really started with with. I mean i guess what your class kind of. 'cause you guys in your your record and four years was was pretty crazy. Do you remember what it was. I think we actually talk about it in the episode but anyway the fact that you guys built the program that you built without you know with four year guys when you know the the best teams were supposed to be the guys that were you know getting the mcdonald's all americans the one in the near you guys every year would just would just consistently be in that in that national conversation. I think that was really impressive. Yeah that's the thing coach by recruits. It's obviously recruits talent. You have to have talent to win by y'all but one of the biggest thing that he does recruit character and and my dog is really in here's snoring right now <hes> but he recruits character and that's something that vital to villanova basketball <hes> about the to being a student at the university and that's kind of why we have an had the success bozo you know vote on character and having great players yeah. I was like you know. I was like this whole episode. I'm just going to sit back. I'm just gonna let i'm just glad josh in coach reminisced so i guess without further further do here is the thing twelfth episode of the light-hearted podcast three months strong so far so have fun listening to coach right right into the story of his time zone of so this is a treat for for both of menu mad but i think more so for me obviously just because for me i think i mean you do a lot of things i mean. Obviously i think it's a little a different with you know a four player doing allender how many former players you have. <hes> you know do it on a podcast where it's okay. It's a tree author asked. Everyone is coach ri- we're gonna have a longer introduction with him. <hes> a little bit later but i think matt <hes> you know going to open up this bottle of <hes> thirteen jordan cab. I know you already had jordan once on the on the podcast but <hes> i mean that's my favorite one so you you know you can never never never can go wrong with. You and you're gonna wind. Coach is a big big wine guy so you know it's always amazing but no i mean i mean i think kosher resume kind of speaks for itself. <hes> you know with everything you've done. I don't want to date you but you know you've been coaching longer than and i think me mad both been alive so you know audience. Don't date that too much but you know i think we really wanna talk about a little ability bag on but a lot of it about villanova does obviously just because one i went there. We you know we've had some good times and and you've built a our call it a blooberg program graham here and i always argue with everyone and i put it as a blueblood just with the achievements and just the consistency. We've you know we've had here. The last you know since you took over and over one you guys helped with that a lot. I think he was raised with with your your class. Oh thank you see we're gonna talk about later. Always i always i want to take the credit for it but kind of really started turning with dio orion so so we'll talk about that a little bit later but i'm never going to say that to them. What was your record in four years my work in a four years. I should've looked. I think i have it. I think it was something something ridiculous. Yeah you're right at one point. It was the there was only a couple like a couple of duke guys that had had won as many games in college basketball as josh and his classmates one twenty nine seventeen. That's amazing that that is pretty wild that is it's definitely the the winning his class in villanova history but he also ranks up there all time with all the all time winningest called basketball classes. Definitely i think i think we're like five four or five games away from that. Timothy was shame batty a a team. I think that team won thirty three or one thirty four so i think those usually teams. They didn't play as many games habit avocados guys seventies. Those guys didn't lose any games and <hes> they didn't play as many but they didn't have to win as many to win a big an n._c. The championship her many games yeah so it's a little trade off so i guess kind of talking about your background and obviously your first year here. <hes> was a one <hes> you had three before they had three consecutive postseason parrots with hostile which was amazing with a with a thirteen thirteen to fourteen seed on the year before that it was an i._t. So that was obviously amazing from a low major. <hes> you know d. One program <hes> uh-huh mid major what we were we were. We were going from lome agent mid major we were in that we were in that process. I'll say low major because dennis sounds better in the n._c._a._a. Birth so let's go with low major so you have three consecutive postseason appearances there and then you took the villanova job in march twenty seven th at two thousand two thousand one and i think kind of what i would want to know what my what was going through your mind having obviously you were assistant coach here you know earlier you. We're we're rolling. You're one of his main teas and to what did it mean for you to kind of. Take over the <hes> the rosetta villanova program program which you already had you know this kinda villanova blue you know running in your blood yeah it was it's it's fun to talk about that now because it wouldn't seem like i was thinking about going anywhere else but villanova but at the time time when i was at hofstra my mindset was was different like i was so happy at hofstra. I love living in new york. We lived in rockville centre long island. We could take a train training being manhattan in thirty minutes. I love it. I love the school here winning. <hes> we built. It wasn't like it was villanovan. Yeah success villanova was always good. You know we built that. I love that our kids were born there so i was really thinking. I'm good at hofstra like i'll i'll stay here. I didn't need to be a big time head coaching and to to your point about blow major mid mid major. That's really what we were doing. We we took over. There were two ninety five out of three hundred and two division one teams so you know by the by the end there were r._p._i. Like thirty forty so we you know we felt like we really accomplish something and build something. Ah happy so when i came here it was one of the few jobs i would've left after four and it was coming home patty as you know my wife pat. He's villanova a graduate. She was a cheerleader villanova chiller so we were coming home. I was an assistant here from philly so at that time it was like a dream. Come true true to come to come back here to come home in the coaching business you don't you rarely think you're ever going to get to coach in your hometown. You gotta take the job wherever the job is you know we were. We were assistant university of nevada las vegas. I was in university of rochester after long long island new york so to be able able to come home. It was really almost unfathomable that you could get to do that so at the beginning it was a thrill you want me to go will any farther in that first years a change from a thrill to begin with reality. I think mad kind of like to talk about about your approach and just kind of where you got attitude from. That's a <hes> you were one of those attitude wrist bands. Oh yeah oh yeah outta boy josh pass those on humble and hungry atta boy what i'm talking about but that was something that in the beginning years at hofstra as i said we were to ninety five out of three hundred two teams and and i was watching our first team and we just weren't any good we didn't we didn't have a good players but for for the league we were in and we just started in a newly called the america east and <hes> watching these kids play and they're playing their butts off you know and and i realize you can't really ask any more of them and we went out and started the recruiting and i knew that we're going to have better players coming in but i still love to guys that had they're giving me everything they had and i thought you know we shouldn't but but we were losing all the time and i was like we shouldn't be this distressed about this. You see we can't do anymore. It's not their fault. They didn't choose to play for me. You know they they weren't a good program and they're not. They're just not enough talent so i started saying like what do we really have control of. We can go play the best possible game we can play and we're still not good enough. Melik rose was at <hes>. If you guys remember maliki rose he was at drexel time he wound up playing for the san. Antonio spurs birds now the general manager of the detroit pistons but he was he was six nine stud playing for drexel. They were the best team eamon league and i was like the archives getting killed by these guys you know. My sister had a great line. One time we played. We played drexel me. Rose was six nine like two forties being being guarded by our six four center chains parisi who was studying to be he was studying art history and after the game we got we got upbeat and russia. Twenty eight foul shots i said to my sister is like this b._s. Men they'll give emily grows always calls like we could beat that team. He said jay we can't be dead. Team like me. Grows is going to be a first round draft choice and he's being guarded by james parisi. Who's going to be an art teacher. We're not beating these teams so i started saying like what what really do. We have control of bringing good effort every day. We're bringing a great attitude. That's we have to feel good about that and that's when we started making renew. He couldn't win so a mantra started being like hey. What do we control. We control absolute. Come here no matter what happens in the game. Let's have a positive attitude next day. Let's enjoy this. You're giving me everything you've got and let's let's control our attitude every day and we actually started playing better and we upset university of maine in the playoffs was at the end of that year and then had to play drexel me grows at drexel blown out but attitudes started to become our mantra that's awesome and then i know going into the susan you guys had a really really strong recruiting class that was with randy foye curtis sumpter jason fraser allen ray bake what obviously despite having despite having off off season the previous year what do you what do you attribute to just being able to grab a really really top tier guys right away we don't i i the day's play a big part in that because when we were at hofstra we were really starting to get a good one to say tournament two years in a row so we started recruiting recruiting alan ray not randy allen ray curtis sumpter curse was in brooklyn so he was only thirty minutes from us jason frazier's from long island island. He was fifteen minutes from watts. Alary was from the bronx. He was like twenty twenty five minutes from us so we were we we were getting a little big headed thinking. We're gonna get these guys at hofstra sure but we really did have that vibe going like we. We had speedy claxton. You got drafted in the first round and norman richardson played forest and then he got <hes> <hes> he was a free agent but he signed by the indiana pacers and so we guys in the n._b._a. We were winning. We had the longest winning streak in country going at one point so we really thought we could get those guys and then and i as i said i wasn't in a hurry to leave but then the villanova job opened and i took that we took the villanova the job but we knew those guys now. They're like all right. We were we were kind of thinking of you guys at hofstra but now you're villanova's even better we'll we'll go and then randy new those guys from the metropolitan area and they all knew each other and that was really cheap something <hes> you know we just we talk about your class with chris jenkins and all you guys but those guys they came in when we weren't at villanova wasn't really we weren't as successful as they are now and so it it was a step of <hes> trust you know and and and i always have a special place in my heart for those guys because they were all tight title came together to do it together to get this program going again because the program always had great tradition and they got it started and that that class was was is the group that you know took too big championship in a final eight are are first of all of our staff <hes> <hes> i think the biggest thing our class wasn't as much <hes> but when you have a highly recruited class like that i mean i i know i remember hearing the stories. <hes> probably can't talk too much about it because you know had the n._c._a._a. But essay guys doing violations wrote. Would you guys get get the job you get the number one recruiting class in the country and it's like i wanted these guys doing over there so actually would happen so i mean i feel like it's always hard. When you have a class like that i mean now. It might be a little bit democrats more. We're one and done now but you know then. It was like okay you got this. No more recruiting class and you think you got everyone has these high expectations of you but if anyone that knows you and knows the villa nova program you can make impact the freshmen <hes> in even though sophomore but not as great of an impact act just because you know here is always about kind of buying time learning the you know the play villanova basketball tone of away and that's not something you can really learn in one year so after right after you know you guys got that caused. You had a couple rough seasons n._i._t. N._i._t. seasons but then you guys i had that breakthrough and you know that oh four zero five season when you guys went twenty two and seven and you guys made it like you said to you guys. I was sweet sixteen. It was a guy carolina who won the national championship and do i feel like we always just happen to lose a team that won national champion. That's a good thing for us so we yeah we have some crazy record with that with all these that year we lost to carolina the next year we lost florida won the national championship. My freshman uconn won it before that we we lost a kansas won. The national in the sweet sixteen then we lost was to carolina in the final four and they won the one. We had a crazy run where you could say all right. We we went as far as we could. We use happening wherever we run the national chebishev. Let's take the national shaping to. I was actually telling you guys. I don't if you guys remember that or ourselves that it's not that's that's the beauty the the n._c._a._a. Tournament or sometimes the curse of the insect home. It's not where you end up sweet sixteen final eight. It's matchups. If you happen to get that team the best team at the wrong at the wrong time you're you could be out and it doesn't mean you weren't a great team yeah and even like this. I kinda wanna talk about that. You wouldn't see game because obviously because you have curtis toy story before in <hes> and in a four zero five to eat towards a._c._o. With a game within the game before so you guys so you're ever to get past that it was one of your best players. You know he gets hurt like that. It's physically is terrible qaddafi. He's down but then in diff- mentally and emotionally is like okay. Thank you know our best player goes down <hes> and obviously everyone's like okay. It's time to step up but it's also but it's still like little binion my like so now what so you guys are still in it against u._n._c. Who forgot who was there that they had fought five fibers on picks. I think it was that and <hes> the kid williams was city of the second book that they had may they had felton alton. They had <hes> they're all. They were all first round picks. That was a monster team. <hes> and we had mccafe's yeah yes and then you guys aren't even i've watched it a little bit. I was young. I was a car. I was like ten but there's so many stories about that game number one the game before that was when we played florida actually a first round game that year <hes> do you remember. Danny granger played for indiana pacers. He played bernabeu mexico. They were unbelievable. We blew them out which was blew us away because we're looking at danny. Granger like this do is incredible and then we get florida and florida had all these david lee was on that team and how about this horford al horford and choke him. Noah were scrubs scrubs on that team coming off the bench and hardly even play and also the other guy brewer cord. Yes corey brewer was rub on that team so so yeah i remember shaking hands after the game with choky no as we recruit them. I felt sorry phone because it. I don't think he got in a game you gotta game and then the next year they come back and they're all plans and they were monsters but in that game curtis something leading score was projected first round pick coming out and in the first half he tears a._c._l. Kyle lowry is our sixth man. Jason frazier's our seventh man he's had all kinds of knee surgeries jason frazier and and and kyle come off the bench and both of them played great and we actually. I don't remember the final scores it was. We handle them pretty well. It was fifteen or sixteen and now we're going into the game against carolina sweet sixteen and we don't have curtis sumpter so <hes> we had a big a guy a young freshman <hes> marcus austin who really wasn't ready a big kid who would take that spot but he wasn't ready. That was where we came up with the four guard offense. We said you know what kyle lowry dog. I know we're going to be tiny. We're gonna start you know going to start allan rae <hes> randy foy kyle lowry free at the guard spots minority minority up and then. We're just going to have chased him frasier. That's it but we're gonna be tiny but you know what it it. It causes them fit and that's when kyle really kinda made his name because that was sweet sixteen game at the carrier dome so what happened to the game was we were down three the bullshit travel yet only joshes podcast your throat and <music> allan rae go to the rim and gets fouled and one ref calls a foul. It's an want he makes us coming to tie game like thirty seconds. Eleven point six seven the search man and the ref comes out of nowhere and calls off the foul and says traveling and give the ball back to carolina with a three point lead. They lost the game by one but <hes> i that was really a breaking point or a real breakthrough in our program from where our guys were devastated and it was our first time that insight tournament with this group and everybody is upset about the call and we got into the locker room and we've said to the guys you've heard this many times. Let's look at what we can't control the call. Let's control. Let's look at what we could control. There was a play before that we didn't. We didn't give up an offensive rebound. We didn't block out. There's a play before that we had a turnover. He said look those things we can control its focus on that and not the official official and what we control now coming out of here's our attitude and those guys went into the press conference no complaints none of us. We came out of there. No art no complaints about the graf and they really handled it. It's easy for me. When you get you go which again but the players only get so many chances yeah. They handled it so well. They were so mature and classy. I think they set the tone for what would our program was gonna be about so that everyone talks about the the the small ball lineup now the warriors line-up villanova star desk. I'm putting it out. We did say. It seemed like that's that's true. Era of small obama swales at least villanova small basketball really start with that group what it did and what happened was curtis got his surgery and he came back to start the next season so it was kyle lowry sophomore year and that whole team returned so kyle was a six man again. Curtis was back in the starting lineup and right before i game curtis towards a._c._l. Again so at that point it wasn't as hard a decision was crushing rushing for curtis. Curtis sumpter would have been unbelievable n._b._a. Player six seven big strong he was kind of like a <hes> metta world peace his body but better shooter and but but then tears we knew okay. We're going for car. We we know we're going to do and then kyle lower that year. That was a sophomore year. He just became a monster and randy was he was a big east player thirty year that year in seventh pick in the draft and ellen ray when i'm going with the celtics and it was it was an unbelievable team but we play those four guards all year and that was the first time anybody did that. People thought we were crazy. When really we didn't have a choice yeah. I we get credit but we didn't have a choice. They clearly the four other other best players to our center jason frazier and then coach and that <hes> not oh five oh six year i know you that was the first time that you really got nationally recognized on a national level. As far as the accolades go <hes> ended up getting coach of the year <hes> and obviously biggies coach of the year as well. What does that mean for you and your development. <hes> you know and kind of <hes> to show that you were there to stay in terms of the biggest stage it. It's obviously really come to humble part. Were you in a year when you're in a year like that. You know you're so into the team and if you don't think about any of that stuff and then all of a sudden we got beat in the final eight by <hes> by the florida and we were crushed you know and so then you're going to the final four for the coaches convention but you're just crushed that you're not in it and <hes> and so you're not thinking about that and then you know our sports information director says you gotta go get this award and <hes> at that the point in your career. You're really thinking which is getting this program going like. It's good to get the award but it's good for recruiting. It's good for the program to show that you know. We're all because randy got as i said big. He's play the first team. All american allen ray was all american. <hes> you know you're getting kyle lowry came. I'm on the scene. You knew he was going to be a first round draft choice you just that was just another accolade to kind of start to put us on the map and you know that you you know oh even though personally it doesn't really do anything for you. You know it has an impact on recruiting and how people view the program nationally right very humble answer away. You know i am now playing for you for for years i know but i mean you definitely take some credit credit credit for that definitely helped. I think that year obviously <hes> no. You know like you said you got. I wanted to say rod but got robbed and this ends the year before then you lost to the florida team which is just this monster. That's one of the things i i guess i give bombed. You'll lose but it's also like there was a monster. You say that i as a coach is sometimes you say that and you but you don't know to the players really realized that that kind of like we're talking about arnold hoste teams you get to a final four that like the when we went to the final four we were great team but that carolina team we played that year in oh nine was was danny green and <hes> who's a point guard from d._c. Your guy played with tyler ty lawson and the other guy that was a national player of the year. The like six nine kid <hes> <hes> hit tyler hand. I mean they had they had stayed. We after we lost a game. I was like i i mean we good but that team too so you guys as we do know that when i mean there there's there's definitely tom mind you know me. I'm very i'm very competitive. I know that's why surprised surprised to hear. You say there'll be times. Were like sometimes it go to say this year. Lake was one game nassir. Browse hurt or not. I will battling when we come back. A little bit will like unlike outmanned outgunned and then the third quarter clay goes off and i said there wasn't in the league nobody's hot. I don't care about james harden labron. Katie is nobody's staff. Nobody's hotter than klay thompson when he's hot. You cannot stop this man so he goes off and that their record i think he had like twenty five <hes> twenty-six he's he he had t-ball on me probably seven or eight feet past deep online he hit it. Three times is to run right on evita's zubec- who are seven foot center and he just caught it like he wasn't there like he was a baby so i mean after a game. I'll just went into the locker room like like hey man. We write their team's different competitors. Good you kind of like you like you. Say you want to win and we played all out but when you got the teams like golden state or that u._n._c. team would have floor team is slake. We did everything we could do but they're so coach through the josh ever get a little too competitive in practice are stories and i know i know i know he broke poor poor darryl turner classic that someone a funny not josh would tell you and you know matt you around but i you know i'm really intense and practice. That's kind of <hes> you know we. We believe i don't want. I try not to be yelling at guys doing games. You know sometimes i do but i feel like if you wanna make sure the camera's not on you to are you working practice creek good habits in them so i'm trying to be serious in practice but josh would his competitiveness would it would just take over and he would do the craziest things i couldn't hold back laughter and i'm trying to be serious and intense. It was actually comical goal like one of my one of the things to make me laugh. The most would be when mikhail british was young and josh actually you were young too. He he was one year behind you right so josh was only a sophomore the columbia freshman and josh would would they annihilate most times when he was a freshman and josh was a sophomore because he just physically stronger but mikhail was so long every once in a while mikhail mikhail because with his legs would punch his shot or pin is shot on a backward it wasn't a lot but it was rare but when he would do it and then mikhail be going to any other you would see a rage in in josh's is and the whole staff and everybody would see it and maceio will be going on breakway and everybody jim have begun and let them go let them go and josh would just hammerhead fucking them and and poor skinny maceio tailback then we'll just go crumbling to the floor and everybody in the gym it'd be like oh my god this kid's dead and josh would be seething we look at what is wrong wrong with you and like it would take him like two or three more possessions you see like the rage will come out of his eyes settle down but truly early that same competitiveness. I i look at the same <hes> look in his eyes. We're playing in the big east. Championship and chris were down one with like what four seconds ago kris jenkins takes a shot and josh goes was up and just viciously hacks the rim and follows the ball up gets an one and you see that you know his his fist pump and you see that same <hes> fury in his eyes in a positive way you know so it was the mo he truly i think he kyle lowry with two of the most competitive people i've ever coached and both of them had add that still do have that <hes> that fury that positive fury that can sometimes over you sometimes. Let's go over the line but ninety percent of the time. It's what makes them great. That's why this year in the n._b._a. Playoffs when that owner hit kyle the i was just i was doing to me too. I was so proud of him and more happy for him. 'cause i know he could like getting hit like that could set him up. You know kyle lowry in his second college. Go ahead that cutthroat out of the game for for punching langford the kid lang for kansas elbowed him in the head and there was no foul called and kyle turn the ball over and like it kinda like josh i saw that same look in his eye and down in a stack they wanna stack set and he punched him in the stomach and the ref caught got. It got thrown out. I i never had a cow got big balls around because i was out in practice. I always did but definitely the time games. I'll i'll get a couple of elbows or get a couple couple. I i definitely got definitely got a high school. I got thrown out. I didn't get the game the college but <hes> i was able to do it. Most of the time they were doing saudi a rough didn't see you you wanted seton hall aw where everyone saw except the ravaris the residency and end arena that was yeah. That was my myself. I think <hes> do do angel. Gotta forgot i went. I think i wanna for layup or something something happened. He smacked me in the face. Ace was it wasn't like wasn't on purpose. It was on accident hit me and then i was. I was heated so the next thing. I'm not sure what happens something happens. You guys were about trip them. No i are we we went. He dove all me me. Try to get up trip domingo. They grayson grayson allen esq and it got it got. It got out there everywhere in the residency. However the refs didn't see it but they kept playing it in the arena. The place was going crazy and the refs then realized what it happened but they couldn't do anything and you got hammered on the next three plays like i've never seen in college basketball game and they let the call because they a new now now now going crazy 'cause it was like all right you you miss. You can't let this continue what was going what was going on after that. Talk talk good stuff man. I'll take the competitiveness anytime not to be too cliche josh but i know in high school. You're obviously your temper was a little bit more. <hes> your temper and then in college i got better and then and then senior year of college same dude angel delgado your after you eliminate them. You're helping them up and you're like giving him a hug and i i know coaches you. Kinda preach like you know not just development on the corporate off the court that had to be a pretty cool moment to see as well the one thing <hes> <hes> about josh and same with kyle lowry <hes> you know josh has got a great heart. You know he's got a great heart. You know where he comes from. No pun intended he you know his parents. You know what they stand for so you know his intentions are always good. You know his heart good so so it was more it was more of a maturity you know being seventeen eighteen year old kid when you come in and you're just so competitive you can't control it to to to the end like that play josh helping up angel dugout at the end of his career. Didn't that didn't surprise me but i was a happy that at least everybody else got to see the other side of them because to our opponents he was villain you know because he because he was a killer. You know you just so tough and competitive to other coaches two other coaches. They would tell me all the time like i. I would kill to have a guy like that. You know that that just competes like that you know i always remember the game at xavier. You're in josh new senior year. When <hes> are starting senator without daniel jeff was out running coronas was out and then we play kris jenkins it the five he got in foul trouble. We played josh hart at the five spot on national t._v. It was like a one vs forces. We were number one. They were like the readers or and you know so a game where i tell the story to basketball people all the time i remember when they were when he's going to get drafted. I told everybody this was a number one team because number three team on c._b._s. At on the road and josh's playing the five spot guarding these monsters and we can't run stuff on can't pull somebody getting every rebound. He ends up the game with like eleven points ten rebounds something like that and we we win and somebody kris jenkins hits threes. They get all the hype and i'm like are are six five two guards play. The center spot verte target was unbelievable when he was happy as hell we want eating care and that's that's true josh hartnett and that's rare that is rare in today's game. You can't say we don't want to just talk every year. Every season you guys had the that thirteen and nineteen year with with big. You know i guess big for where villanova is now. Could i was you guys didn't make it to the tournament guys struggled that year <hes> but it kind of shows how well <hes> no you handed recruiting and coaching after that because obviously you guys that you know the played in a fine for ami and just as a play i don't want i don't i know some of those guys and they're all great guys but sometimes you get bigheaded and stuff like that and obviously we went. We won announcing championship so you're getting married to all of our heads. Were at that point <hes> but you know what were some of those drugs there that year that you've got to thirteen nineteen eighteen that after that season death win ryan indio sign and everything kind of changed their but what was some of the struggles like dang that was a a huge huge year villanova basketball yeah i take a lot of responsibility for that josh like after the oh nine final for a big like maybe i don't know maybe i got a big head. You you know as a coach in coaching. When you get to a final four that's kind of the kind of annoying it when you get to a final four and coach because we have our coaches convention at the final four to coach is is that's a big deal and it was a deal to me i was very proud of it and very proud of our program and but in recruiting after that it was kind of it was easier easier which is kind of crazy to say but guys wanted to come you know randy was doing well in the n._b._a. Kyle was guys dante drafted that year guys wanted to come and we just we just started taking good players that won the calm and not explaining to them. What villanova basketball is all about so it wasn't it's. It's hard to put the blame on them. In the next year we like we were number two in the country that after that final four year but i could see you know we're playing eleven guys and we're run up and down in scoring points but i could see like this is not going in a good direction shen here even the year after that year after nine. We lost to st mary's in the second round. We've got upset the year after that. We lost to <hes> we like number ten in the country and then we slip at the end of the year we lost like our last five or six games and we lost to george mason in the first round of the n._c._a._a. Tournament and so we were going in bad rushing at thirteen nineteen year we just we just didn't have a program. I'm where everyone understood. What villanova basketball is all about. It was just i mean you're the coach the final four and they give you credit than when that team's not playing villanova. That's what you gotta take the responsibility it was on me we we. We go guys i just i just did not get them. In recruiting understanding what we were about and then even during on year we were just trying to keep it going rather than be true to what villanova basketball as talented guys so. I i take responsibility for that. I do you and then as you said the next year ryan and daniel came and you had a point guard who without even coaching them was already playing villanova basketball aw and you had a senator who was almost as competitive as you in daniel tshefu who was playing basketball without you having to teach them they just came in that way so that was kind of lucky on our part to to get those two coach i know you are you hinted briefly at the old big east <hes> it's something that we uh-huh josh talked about in the last episode but <hes> you know for for us who grew up watching the old big east with the amazing you know yukon teams with kemba and then you know the peyton visit louisville and and and you know the samyong levine's fields doin blair's at pay like it was the biggies was just incredible. <hes> obviously the new big east is as well but to go from from those teams to an entirely new conference. What is that like for. Everybody involved at the time well. I honestly not for me. <hes> i was wh- when that ah when that big east broke up i was crushed man because i i grew up as a kid even when the old big east the real biggies with like you know patrick ewing winging and alan iverson and all those guys and walter berry and chris mullin so that's how i grew up as an assistant and then i get to the head coach in the big east and you know we're rolling you know one year we had sixteen teams <hes> it was more or less us. We were just talking about it might've been it might have been like oh nine nine or something but we had sixteen teams in an eleven got into the n._c._a._a. Tournament it was it was unheard of it. Never happened to big was a monster and then it breaks up and you're like aw damn like you know. Do i have to change jobs. What's going to be like and really once we got about halfway through that first biggies the newbie es and and i realized you know what these other teams are going into football conference. This is all basketball. This is good stuff right here like everywhere you go. They're sold out there. Are there hyped about basketball the most important thing on their campus and then you know as it continued to grow until this day now adding connecticut back you know no connecticut coming back to this league which was just announced. <hes> is the first time that a football school said wait a minute. We're going to change. We're going to go from the football model act to the basketball model as opposed to everybody else. Was basketball schools going to the football model so i think it's as strong long as ever. It's a great brand new big east and i'm really happy we're in it it. May i think probably one person probably lower mad then you know more wasn't causing me because my as committed to that plane to the big east teams then. I decided this crump was almost who is that what it was. I think about that. I was heated. Yeah i know you go from and obviously there's no knocked his eve viewer creighton and all of them but you know they're not the same level as syracuse louisville uconn notre dame <hes> <hes>. I'm not a couple of them but it's i know definitely using that and then you see top those some of those things the top five the the year before my senior year in high school you guys hit a couple of big upsets at home with louisville in turkey syracuse stormed coordinator so i'll see that and i'll be the syracuse game ryan shot going overtime and all that so i look at them like oh this should be lit and then i just look at just slowly be one by one. Everyone's leaving a conference. I'm just looking like i am david in <hes> crayon coming out and i'm just thinking like i play because he's weakest teams like the bar for the big bed high i mean amazing basketball conference and it ended just kind of one downs unite- united never talked about that you think that time like shoot i might not go there might transfer nah nah nah i. I should've decommitted when someone's getting nah. I that wasn't enough for me because i'm a very loyal guy so it's like i you know i committed and also i wanna go but it was just a a bummer for me. I was just like like damn this is this is what i want. I just wanted to do this but now it's switched of dislike. Yeah and obviously israel is still good but just wasn't the same because like you got battles. Every game was a battle and you're going to some somebody's spots at the carrier dome. <hes> <hes> always had a good crowd on so the louisville was a free easy suicide. Okay i'm signing up like going into these bars is gonna be battle. I'll just how i like playing physical doing all that and then it just gets taken away from me body but this damn foot by the biggest is even though the gain they're trying to change the physicality of the game even i i was just this weekend with <hes> with coach. Popovich go steve kerr and lloyd peers jeff van gundy. That's u._s._a. Staff and they were saying that physical bees basketball. Now is more physical than the n._b._a. They're saying like they don't let they don't let anybody touch anybody in the n._b._a. N._b._a. Now the the bodies obviously your big hits different but <hes> they still are league is still physical. Definitely i mean i haven't been in the playoffs yeah but looking at the data looked down you're right. You're right about that and that's that's crazy about the n._b._a. Because it almost looks like different rules when you get to play and even the deeper you go into those finals were a bloodbath. There's no holding the the during the regular season. They don't let anybody touch anybody. No you can't touch anything definitive like the n._b._a. Got attended because it was. We couldn't defend you couldn't in touch grab or whatever but if you look at like steph clay when they go off screens they push off every so it's like they're pushing off both of ours counterpoise like stay attached go over screens so i will i cool so we're like on their hip and and they push off get off a screen hit three boom loo looking at me like what the hell good his ass out us on the baz. I'm just looking. I'm like oh may put an they now call enough and he just looking like y- i know oh <hes> so yeah it was a bummer for me not be able to play in the big east but we had not the next couple of seasons we had. We won big east championships regular season. <hes> <hes> conference <hes> covered down that sixteen year which i think is the best season villanova basketball history we you wonder i mean obviously to eighteen hours. Everyone says the most dominant <hes> some is wanted him. Oh i won't say the most one of the most dominant runs an n._c._a._a. Tournament every statutory but we have some dogs that we play like we had iowa who was top five or one point miami was <hes> yeah in and out of the top ten top fifteen day season <hes> now now that we had kansas who was the overall number one beat them <hes> oklahoma who we lost by twenty four hour. We whooped they asked by forty. Four words. It was a is a record for miami. Yeah miami was oh yeah forgot. Miami miami was was mclaughlin. Yeah they were. They were tough and then oklahoma homeadvisor obviously the finals against u._n._c. where they were just monsters and number one half of the year and then but i think we run on wanna give too much villanova information mation but we always practice. <hes> you know that out of balance play i can't remember ever in practice ryan or whoever to point our waste us through it back to the man no not once but we didn't we draw up how we did it was just that was always the last option but we would always say we would run it in practice and the defense would know what we were running so we always thought all right if they know what we're running we're we're always going to have to take the most difficult option because they're going to stop everything but even in practice knowing what we're doing. We never got to that point point. You're right and still to this day. We still practice that nobody's ever taken but i think that was i think i might have been the only time chris karan out that i play to like the powder. That was oh you know you're right rampant now. I think he pass the three point ed game with online. Say fuck it. I'm going you know chris he saw nobody was guarded him until he told arch that yo. I'm gonna be open. I'm going to be open. <hes> is so true though the the one part out of that is we practice that same play almost every day the other part of it is even practicing every day. We never took that shot ever and that's when you know that's why some people have asked me like. Why didn't you get more excited. I just look at it like that was fate man that i was far armour proud of you guys and i tell you know when i speak to corporations i use this example all the time and you know this. Josh awesome matt you know it being around us. We really want you guys to learn about your attitude and that you can control that life and and you guys with patient. That crazy shot national t._v. Seventy five thousand people in there. He hits the crazy shot. Daniel sheffer goes for steel. He's got the stele trip some falls. I mean everything he didn't even have to go. He could've just stood his big. Ask ask the ball could hit him. He tripped even even if he stayed on his feet. The ball i know and all that happens and you guys came off the court and none of you were down none of your complaint you just clap your look each other in united states attitude man. We got this attitude attitude the two and i that's the you know you practice that all the time but that's the situation you practice for the most difficult situation when millions of people watch t._v. You've blown a lead so you blown a lead. There's a tendency to have a little have a little fear in your mind at all in the begium the among exactly what you guys didn't and you guys walked out on the court saying attitude to each other and i was so amazed by that you know the huddle lake we. We knew we were going to run. It was a longtime out. I just sat there and drew. The circles real slow to show where everyone's gonna stand. I didn't have to because you know what we're doing so we didn't say a lot but each just amazed me that all you guys as young men at twenty years old twenty one years old had that in you that self confidence to go out there and just say hey forget about what happened before this. We're gonna go out here and executing enough to shot we'll go in but i was so impressed by you guys. That's still what i take from that game not not making the shot or winning. It is how mentally tough mental focus you guys were. That was amazing into me coach. I almost don't even ask questions. You've probably been asked it so many times but obviously everybody's saw as soon as chris released it. You said bang. <hes> was was it. The did the release just look really good. Had you seen him hit that shot so many times where we think in that moment in what why why did that come out. You know what i do that all the time like on the bench at if we take a shot at the end of a shot clock or let's say we've been down for a while and our guy takes a shot or ended the game in my mind. I'd always say to myself self bang like going in and same same saying when the other team would always take a shot and the shot in my mind. I would say say to myself no f._m. Way i would always say in my much because i couldn't do anything so i thought i'm just gonna will this thing out or in right so i knew that i did that but after the game but i didn't know i did it that i didn't know my lips moved and no one ever had a camera on me so i always thought that was just going on in my head so it later after the press conference. Some one of the guys said to me like <hes> coach yudo g you said bang. I'm like is like what what do you what do you mean and they said joe you know when he shot you said bang and i thought to myself holy shit like i i mean i know how it somebody no no and then someone said to me you know they have you your lips moving same bang. I never knew that my lips actually moved when i said if anybody called me now i would say it could be the first half with two seconds on the shot clock and someone can take a shot if they put a camera. I mean i'd be saying bang for me. I always looking like damn kosan no reaction but i'm mlive right now. I'm just like that might have been the choas reaction. You could have possibly jeffrey bang kano dino dislike. That was so bad ass. I'll tell you i was thinking in my mind. I really wasn't you know before that that how impressed i was like what this is in god's hands. I am so impressed with these guys walking out here with all this pressure on them and they're just like attitude looking looking at each other their so calm. They're so confident. I thinking myself. You know what. I don't know if it's gonna go it or not but i know they're going to execute because they're so mentally tough. I was amazed. I was like if this goes into overtime. I whatever i don't care because i'm so impressed with these guys. That's what i was thinking. The feeling that you get from winning any national championship is obviously incredible but <hes> with two thousand eighteen you guys had a pretty commanding lead the whole game you won. You won by seventeen so when the buzzer hits like of of course you're just incredibly incredibly happy and excited but to win in the fashion that you guys did in two thousand sixteen just in such a just a shock. Just a moment like what is what's. It's the feeling when that happens do you do you even remember. You're like josh. Do you even remember your reaction or you're just running around just trying to find somebody all saying like this in my head. I give me one chris chris hits and is this i get you just you just run around <hes> and it was crazy. We were we were rockstars. How's coaches worry. They talking about rox trying to always keep was humble by these arrested at year and that's summer <hes> and obviously we're. We're trying to move onto the next year. You know coach is trying his best to try to get us to turn to page and all that but you know we're we hit a shot like that. Then we go to the white white house we go to the s._p.'s over here. This is fucking. Lit de the best mode of my basketball career so so i mean that was like my initial. Give me one chris didn't after he hit that it was just like four months zych rockstar doc villanova right after you guys won. I was there for like a week. I skipped all my classes classes. Were not a thing after that a- and they want to talk to him about the humble. Stay on balls. They hung now but you guys. I mean you're right. You guys. Were rockstars and you guys. I still art when you come back here but you handled it. You guys handled it well. You didn't even go into that next year. It's hard no one. I knows how hard it is that next year we were number one seed going into the tournament right and we love phil booth was hurt that year mortgage completely and and with all that having one. I was really proud of you guys. I really was i no one can understand that unless you've it was kind of like the warriors this year <hes> <hes> you know losing those guys and still bad onto the the. I was very proud of you guys in seventeen. I don't really know if you could have done much more. You know we won the championship that year biggest tournaments has yeah and after one of the national championship and then getting a number one seed and that was constantine. We play was really just on shine. I mean we they had like the second best record in the big ten for the best ranking. It was like we knew they were going to be tough but it will just like how to hell. We get this draw in buffalo right. Yeah my a freshman year ended in buffalo and my career ended in buffalo. Yeah my dad born in buffalo. Suck buffalo coach. I don't know if i if i mentioned this to you not but in the in the two thousand sixteen run that's where that's where i met. My girlfriend really were you. We we met in louisville after we won. I can't way <hes> you gotta. Let let these guys go out so you went out with one man josh and louisville aw i don't even think i wanna lose louisville's a great a great city to win a <hes> sweet sixteen because it was small. Everything was walkable. The hotel was which was a couple blocks from the arena and everyone was just kind of compact the one area just kind of having a good time out in the streets right 'cause everybody's walking out in the street live. That was cool. That was josh every time i've been with you and then someone who was on the two thousand eighteen team like literally without fail. It's an argument about which team was better as a coach. I know you're not you're going to probably not gonna speak on it but what did you. What did you like most about each team. And what do you think separated each team from their respective sixty three other teams each year. I love the leadership on both teams and when you when you if you're around here if you're on villanova and you see these guys arguing. It's really the it's the argument of the leaders because jalen brunson was on the sixteen team but he wasn't one of the leaders so he'll argue. It's the team even though he was on on the sixteenth team and a big part of it and the guys that argue the most are the leaders the young guys they they they let the stud i i go at it but the guys that were young on either one of those teams that he'll say anything but it's like it's it's arch and josh and chris and daniel it's jalen and mikhail and dante and eric like they're the ones battle each other and i love that about them because the reason those teams were so good was because those guys took pride in playing villanova basketball playing our way and they really believed achieved that they're not these guys. Don't push overs. You know they're not going to say all right. Coach says we have to play this way. I saw him on a place because coach said they're saying this is what coach presenting us with this is the way. He says we should play. I'm looking at this and i think you know what if we play this way. I can be a great player and we can win a national championship so i'm going to do it. It was an intelligent we we call it. <hes> voluntary cooperation like like both of those leadership groups are really smart. Really competitive really talented math for me. It was always just play hard like shit play hard down a couple of loose balls that causes gonna let me rock out dollars dollars my big thing it's true it's true and your version of rocking out still. It's still going on the basketball so that's that's. That's the beauty of you guys. You know like you. You know if i if i did when you got older i did let you rock out but you you still got the offensive rebound to win the win the game in the big east championship game so that if a guy's selfish and someone else takes. It's a shot to win the game. He stands up and says shit. Give you you go to the offensive glass win the game force so i let a guy like that route anytime you know going i know i was. I was gonna ask s. u. Sixteen eighty nine and ninety nine away yeah no. They said you you guys argue. It's crazy 'cause some of you weren't both most of your on both teams. You rack smell. Our lines up is ryan sixteen ryan fill me chris phil go sixteen fills sixteen radio daniel does darryl. Phil phil came alive in that championship game. You're right the twenty on deciders jalen dante mckell arrogant amari all we would right. If you split the teams teams we would not. I like don't get me wrong like you said. I didn't know you split it last night and obviously the elegant looking at teams. They played brad for alabama. Press virginia good that the president is okay if they this'll be the toughest game for them but you guys you guys handle that it was a great great college basketball game. You gotta got that one but then texas tech kansas. That candidate was asked like we play kansas was lewis who is still frank mason. They're like i had the candidate what it was like. We played joel b andrew wiggins wayne selden those like my freshman year sophomore year now atlantis right yeah my freshman year and then are we wanted nasser championship it would they said a perry ellis who who dover their kansas for six years yeah ways out of frank mason they had two big do dude lucas who was just wasn't great big had another it has to be like they had the we played late kansas kansas that team was asked compared to the tape replayed but anyways so you beat them by tawny and then you guys beat michigan michigan. I mean that michigan team. Dan get any respect for me. Day was beside they had the one solid wing of god who he is <hes>. Oh oh yeah who actually won't put went back and play this year and went back and played <hes>. Unfortunately you're from kentucky yeah he and he he he would be in the league. Climatic not letting was that i think he liked charles and then he <hes> unfortunately he toured the workout this. Obviously you hope he gets one of his workouts. I think the boston i think most hokey so they had mode out really about it. All they had was mo- the mo- mosa wizard now so mozer be able to rock out and he got a great opportunity with <hes>. We're washington so but either way you look at look at our teams and looted team that we had to go through and who we had a plane who they had compared to the eighteen team. They didn't play anyway but whether dennis i'm putting it out there now we would've kicked ass. If we ended up that way i will say the way that the way that you guys hit your stride like like you said it earlier like you couldn't have done much more than you did like to to. The the way that you guys played throughout the whole tournament was just i mean even like the the the forty four point semifinal exit. You just don't see that like the record whenever virga no no it will not and if you think about it we we beat cans. We kansas in eighteen almost the same way but it still well didn't that record in the semi final yeah that was incredible. That was incredible. What's the biggest <hes> transition going from coaching. Can you know college players at villanova to your time at team u._s._a. A number one matt. I'm the assistant which i really enjoy you. You coach popovich has to make all the decisions and set up all the practices and tell who's cut you know from and the d._a. Which you know if you think about when you're a college coach you never really have to cut anybody. High school coaches do <hes> n._b._a. Coaches do <hes> college don't and first time i was the head coach u._s._a. Basketball for the the world university games have cut guys that was killer man i hated that and but but also it is it is fun for me working with guys <hes> of that talent level in and commitment level laughs last summer. We you know we all the guys out there and we we didn't even have any games to play an guys. You know i was amazed at kevin durant james harden and westbrook and all those guys were committed to working hard competing in practice and was as the summer you know and so you got guys on a whole 'nother level you can say things to them quickly like <hes> you know. Let's you know let's just cutlets go run this low cross screen to stagger and and then reverse pick and roll and they can just do it in the pros you know in college you teach them what all that means. I take a little time to get them to do it so i. I really enjoy it. I really do it's. It's kind of basketball heaven for me the one thing i envy him because i was obviously growing up i i i love co. Love papa feel like pop. Is you know the best coach ever do it <hes> and in the n._b._a. Level so as i kind of envy you a little bit that that's one guy like josh josh. Who would you really want to play for beside. I i'll say alvin gentry and after that i would say pop just because <hes> <hes> i feel like he's he gets out of his guys <hes> he and he's humble and doesn't have any balls and he sees it. He calls was it out and i think that in the league does very rare now if moore had been more you know back in the day but now <hes> now now you can't get on people as much but but pop doesn't care and he <hes> when he sees you slacking off p._c. Something he'll say and you'll how many times after gains where playing somebody who's now they like if even if they wanted like we didn't do their to win that team played hard as they played better than us <hes> we were able to out talent though but you know they deserve to win that game we have one and you hear that the coach damn at least like him. I wanna play back gotcha and that is him and that's for real <hes>. I think alvin gentry was his assistant sure he was pretty sure it was and and <hes> that's why he's number one. He's got <hes> yeah and that's good and you u._s. Players can help those guys you know you can you can help the coaches by you know when you're the best players letting them coach you. That's what tim duncan did for him and he'll say that to you know he'll pop will say hey tim. Duncan allowed allowed me to coach him hard so he's the best player so because he allowed me. I was able to coach everybody else. Yeah you're obviously off the court very very multifaceted. You have the book look at the dove the commercials as well from a business side. What are you working on anything else that we'll we'll be able to expect and <hes> you know that's. That's a really interesting question map because the longer i'm in this <hes> you know. Actually <hes> don't have an agent anymore <hes> because i ah we would get offered so many opportunities to do things and and i wouldn't take them you know and i knew that was going to be money to my agent. He set it up and i'm not doing it and he's did all this work to set it up and he could have made money so i said look i just i don't wanna do this anymore. I don't wanna keep saying no because is i'm really trying to focus on the book. You know that's a whole nother story that i kind of forced into doing that and it was enjoyable process but i don't wanna do it again and while i'm coaching <hes> and then you know i did a lowes commercial this year with that was for the n._a._b._c. for for the of course you get paid but n._a._b._c. that that helped them out. I that's easy. It's a one day thing but really try to focus my time on making sure that the things you have to do at villanova recruiting raising money raising money fundraising <hes> in most important coaching and team that i don't get distracted from i'm doing that and i i keep doing that. You know and <hes> this u._s._a. Basketball taken up a lot of time for like we'll be together until september seventeenth so that's taking up a lot of time so the time not doing that. I wanna make sure i focus on villanova basketball. As you guys know. Were getting these guys writing someone. We're working hard but i want to spend as much time with these guys as i can so i'm really trying to focus my time on villanova basketball. I'm doing this thing for amazon books which is pretty simple. They asked asked me three books. I've read and and what i've learned from them and what people i'm doing a little thing for them. They're easy and not time consuming. I'm really trying to country villanova basketball and like the last probably since my freshman year maybe my senior year in in highschool. I feel like this. This summer is i. You have to put a little bit more time a little more <hes> focus in here because you guys have no seniors you guys <hes> dr. cali juniors jamais jamais <hes> junior to know senior so i mean i can only imagine in what <hes> as different as new for you. You have every six years. It's everything we try to avoid exactly everything we do. A roster is to not to get to this point and it's it's tough for us. It's different for us but <hes> it's enjoyable. I know you were here this morning watching us and we'd jalen and workout today arch was down there and i can tell you guys look at it like these boys or young. They're not getting villanova basketball yet <music> but it's it's a it's a challenge and actually i'm invigorated by this challenge. The young guys might be a little ugly early in the season but i think we got it was ugly last year early. I think we can get it going by the end you got to work. Cut out for you. Know what these young guys but how excited you to have you you come back and i think it's also i think the traditional biggies power they've got a national basketball brand and i think think they're making a statement nationally that okay everybody's doing this football thing we get it but it might not be for everybody and there is a value in being a national national basketball program and we're gonna pick basketball over football so i think that's a big statement that they're making and i also think they're making statements like were choosing the big east. They came to us. We didn't go out and start you. We were fine with ten. We're good and they they will add another northeastern eastern team. Which i think is a strength of the biggies obviously xavier creighton depaul. They bring a lot to the big east butler but they what they bring is a great brand but they we know the strength of the big east is in the northeast and madison square garden n._c. In the big east tournament <hes> you gotta admit playing. The storm was also right in madison square garden state in manhattan for the week so i think they're going to everything that's great about the big east. They're going to accentuate that. It's not like you're bringing. Get in somebody from. Let's say louisiana. You know. That doesn't have any connection that they were original members. They were national champions there. In the northeast around the garden. I think can be great for the league josh. What do you think lighthearted ten years <hes> so this is something that we do at the end of every podcast is called. Ally iheart attend <hes> ten just quick. I guess a little bit rapid fire not fully rapid fire questions that we ask everybody just kind of their their <hes> you know to answer so. I guess i started off saying what's your biggest pet. Peeve basketball players not bringing effort every day aw that's all people attitude. What's your biggest fear and you can't say the same thing my biggest fear. Are you working too hard and not spending enough time with my family. I this doesn't my day. Are you a little bit but <hes> what is your. What was your favorite cartoon growing up off. Man roadrunner even know yeah that was that wile e. coyote good. I used to love that bugs bunny moves into childhood celebrity crush. Oh that's good <hes> childhood celebrity crush. Let's say well marcia marsha on the brady bunch. That's a good one. That's a little cater. You get older youth football right yes. Do you ever remember who farah fawcett. Is that fair faucet now google when i started getting a little bit older. It's fair fos kugler. We're super power. Would you want superpower. <hes> read to read people's minds okay. That's actually go for coach would have wanted to read my a lot of expletives. You didn't kick them off the team. Sometimes i did sometimes i did read. That wasn't good if <hes> if you could switch lives with anybody for a day who would it be jesus christ that does anybody for day. I mean you know what i'm going to give you an answer but i i really wouldn't i'm so i'm so happy and thankful for who i am but <hes> man you know what i like to switch lies with <hes> ah a guy that a guy that just lives lives at the beach. He's got his simple life. I you know i don't know that particular person but just a guy that lives at the beach on the beach each every day and he's got a simple life not working real hard. I hope that i'm going to be that database retired right that guy one day <hes> what what profession other than you would you like to attempt backing in the two thousand i think wall street be a a a a stock trader because i'd like to competitiveness in the fast action and i and i like the they used to really take out clients and there was some sales in it <hes> that was the one i always thought i would like to do. If i wasn't a coach who would play you in d._j. Right movie ah george clooney but i think i'm fading there. I'm getting older matters. I don't think everybody he looks better. Though man i'm looking old look has has all but but i was younger to everybody i literally they would literally say to me like people who didn't know didn't follow basketball. They'd stop me like a mr clooney. I don't know i wish but no suit like you though dude what what is the tato to current chapter your life wow that's great. I won't stop has a great question <hes> reinvention reinvention trying. I'm getting more experienced players younger. All i still keep trying to find ways to motivate them and then also think about you know. I'm getting closer to the end now so i don't know i hope that's not for a while but start thinking about okay okay. What do you do next year in it so long you know and you're just like i cried e every day. So that would be my word. I like technical questions within the last one if heaven exists. What do you want to hear. God say when you arrive welcome. I just wanna be <music>. I'm just happy to show if i get there if i get there. I'm good <hes> give him my life and times. I yelled at josh heart if i get there. I'm good man <hes> but thank you so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure to sit here and talk to you and just kinda the other side. I was talking to you dismantled. Not me getting cursed out of me doing cursing out so <hes> thank thank you so much harder podcast <hes> which has a lot of success this next year gonna be challenging. If you guys with these young guys you got a <hes> a great group of guys and good luck with everything. Thanks buddy and i'm proud of you to watch your guys friendships. When you were way back in high school and i start recruiting it's cool that and that's your loyalty and yours met charlie you guys stick together and <hes> a matter how big you get and that when you get real big no matter how big you get you. You never forget where you came from so it's impressive see you guys all stick together. Appreciate that coach thank you. You got guys <music>.

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The Perfect Sci-Fi Movie

The Perfect Package Podcast

53:48 min | 7 months ago

The Perfect Sci-Fi Movie

"This episode is powered by pod. DEX. That's our Marketing Watch this movie filmed on Mars. The notebook to. People like what does that do with Mars? Welcome to p three. Five picks to create the perfect package. It's time for the perfect package podcast terrier hosts. Chattan Dave Welcome Ladies and gentlemen and the rest of you. It's P. Three. The perfect package podcast time for another perfect package I'm Chad and as usual it is your boy Dave, we have. made it. We hear Yo-. Matches here where on Mars. Broadcasting live from Mars. Living on Mars. You'll get this in a couple of months. It'll be a while. To. We feed it back through the Inter dimensional portholes that transmit podcast. I don't know what the hell. God movie doom is to be believed. Then we could do is set up a portal that goes directly from Mars to Earth instantaneously, and if you're weak of stomach, you'll throw up some, but beyond that perfectly fine, which would not be as fun as you know, we couldn't have listened to all of that wonderful playlist. Now that we wanted to in the first place. I'm going to put it out there like this. I'm okay with having listened to that for a few months. But by the time I got to Mars. I would be freaking the fuck out, or you know what I might just be humming along to myself. Honestly, there isn't bangers in there. I'M NOT GONNA lie. There was a fucker bangers and. Like you know what this is my favorite song, because some straight up like What's the one where you fall in love with your captor? Like Stockholm Syndrome I've been stock owned by this music. But I'll be home I'll be having a long in like having a good time. It's. It's like I said you know. If you, listen to it long enough. You will like it, you will. You will hate it so much. You like it so there it is. Look, there's some good memories attached to some of them songs. Also so you know absolutely I mean I don't think it would have been the same trip without him. I mean rapidly. So some of them bumping in the egg sac. Like. I got a good associations I'm okay with it. If, we never go back to the holiday. I'm okay. Look I feel like you could separate those. You won't associate that with the holiday itself. Just where you were just where you were like, you'll never be able to turn that setting on the holiday, very. Good bucket flush that from the memory. GET THAT SCENARIO ATTA here. I Never WanNa see it again never. God Yeah, but hey, you know new uses for the cages. That's all. That's the takeover. They listen. Man! You just gotta be creative. You can't just manufacturing new shit. You can't. You can't just be like Oh. Let's get some new activities. You gotta be like the Old Shit. We got and make it new again in the cages. They definitely took on a new lake. Absolutely. So tonight, we are not here to talk about by the way this is like way overdue, but it was a comment that made me laugh our moon vacation. My dear mother, who listens every week? was shocked and perhaps a little disappointed that unlimited drinks wasn't mentioned during that episode. Look. We can't just have unlimited drinks at. Its I say. Limitation Okay are we talking about the ship or we're talking about the on the moon on the moon now. NOPE, unlimited drinks are not allowed on the moon, if you. Act Our own. Yeah, that's why we packed our own. If you back on the ship, you can go back to your unlimited drinks, but we can't have an all inclusive resort unlimited drinks, and then you can leave the resort. No. No, that's going to cause problems on the moon and we don't need those kind of problems. Somebody's wandering outside the bubble without any protective gear now. She's a lawsuit waiting to happen. Exactly you'RE GONNA have to sign all kinds of waivers You thought the one for the doom. Buggy adventures was bad holy Shit. Yeah. So tonight. We are not talking about vacations, vehicles, music, or any of that nonsense. No, we came to Mars by the way. Thank you welcome. It is part five of our five part series the. Not even drinking tonight hot tea. Hey, now I'm not either and I kind of feel like I should get up right now. Go make myself a drink, but I got drive into later. And I know if I START I won't stop so. Yeah I. Now I mean maybe in the guy who whose wife was home today just on a steady diet of Benadryl. And then I made her some sleepytime t and she said I need to go pick up my prescription. My great, yeah, just Take some Benadryl here. Take the SLEEPYTIME, T I'll put it into to go cup for you now. Go get in the car. So, if I run out of this recording real quick, that's why anyway. can we talk about how it's bad? Okay? Right now that allergies are fucking people. Yes, it's not cool. Man I I was out this week for two days immediately after getting an asymmetric Ronan test. I go down for the count for a couple of days and I was like well this, is it? Time to make my peace. Contracted it I'm going to die, because and I'm like yes, patient tracking I'm out. Of Work for two weeks ago. Like, can you do this? Nope, I'm going to be out for two weeks. Drop on the projects. Put them on somebody else. I gotta stay home. I got no yeah. I think that's I. think that's how they're doing it I. Think it's in the swamps. The swamps that there's now just for the listener at home. Dave did pass this test. He got an eighty six, so he's. Solid be. My stepdaughter slipped on water from the Goddamn Dog. All over the kitchen floor slipped busted her eye open on the corner of the counter and had to go get stitches, and as you walk into the place where they're going to stitch up, they take everybody's temperature and My wife had my wife had a slight fever, so they double board her with the own test one in each side. And she hasn't been. The same sense still doesn't have her results as of this recording, but She's fine. They. tickle your brain through your nose and it's fucked up. And they did both sides for her I got both sides to it was. It was mean I'm sitting in my drive through that I went through some sitting in my car, and they're making banter like it's dentist's office or some Shit, and they just like put mass down. Into my face? It I was like I wasn't ready for this. I feel violated. This is twenty twenty. You're not allowed to do this. And I'm a black man. Black Man in America you can't just go ram and stuff into my nose without my consent seems like they. Those doctor should be cancelled. Hashtag me to. Holy Shit Anyway back on. Episode One or part one of this series we packed, and we said that we could only bring a few items each because we'd already filled up the cargo storage area and Now you get find out what we packed. We're making a movie. Yeah, boy, yeah, man! We're GONNA make a sci Fi movie filmed. Station on Mars which I'm so into that. Like. I've always been fascinated by method actors. You know what I mean. You just ask people when somebody gets asked like. How'd you get into this? How did you put on such good performance? And they're like I've lived this for the past so many months or year, or whatever and that's that's always impressive, because some of the stuff that they get down with just insane like Yo live like that. And that sort of thing, but like shooting things on location or in locations that are appropriate like Lord of the Rings in New Zealand like you're GonNa feel like you're in some sort of medieval version of some fantasy land when you're looking at super sprawling greenery around you in mountains and Dale's and Shit I don't even know to, Dale is. But shooting things on location, so Scifi movie in space now. I think we need some ground rules I. think going into this but I don't really WANNA put too many borders on this. Except for we kind of talked before we started recording about this, I think rather than A. Sifi aliens and Reagan's which I mean, they may play a part in it. I'm not going to rule it out, but I think overall thematically. I would like to see like a dystopia N- kind of situation in this so former English. Oh what manner of Dystopia a we talking, or is that going to be a part of our picks? No, I mean I, and that's where I think it's up for discussion may before we started here is. Are we talking a leg? A blade runner judge, dredd, feel maybe even demolition man Kinda feel, or are we doing like straight fallout So fall-outs less dystopia, more post apocalyptic. You know what I mean so. A dystopia very specifically well, three always described it to my students was. Almost uniquely a fallen Utopia the ideas we've tried to create a perfect system or under the guise of creating a system. We've ended up with this really problematic sort of thing you know it's. We tried to your nineteen Eighty-four Dystopia, because the outcome is can be construed as good There are certainly elements of it where you go. This has solved a lot of the problems that people had, but at the same time we have this dark sort of underbelly these dark elements. That have to be taken into account because of the fact that the measures that we have to take in order to maintain this status quo of. Quote Unquote Perfection so called perfection. Those those are the problems, so yeah, that one that one. Yeah that one all right I'm in. I'm in yeah. I'm into that so think since you went first to with our moon vacation. I'm going to go I all right, and because I am a white man and I'm going to take that privilege. I will not be accused of being too woke. Him Right. I will I will have you know that on this list of things that I prepared for this potential movie words to woke up more than one. All right, so we're GONNA. Kick it off all. Kick it off tonight and we're doing the perfect sci-fi movie filmed on location on Mars, which I don't think is really going to be an element movie. It's just it was kind of a bitch and thing to say. That's our marketing. Watch this movie filmed on Mars the notebook to. People like what does that to do with ballers. But wait, there's more in. That's right all right so my first pick I'M GONNA. Kick it off. How did we get to a crumbling utopia as you said? How do we get to Dystopia I hate to be topical. I hate to do this, but I'm going to say. A deadly virus started the downward turn. Aid to see it, but it's a good option man. It's a great option that's going to be are driving plot point to get started. That's going to take us into act one all right, so here's the thing about that. And you've you've you've stick started my? Kick started my knowledge analogy critically analyze this this idea as a story so fucking movie about the movie. Let it go. Too late. So, a virus is perfect. Right because you threaten health. Yes, and people are going to be much more compliant or at least in the movies they will, because in real life. People walk around without masks and tell you that you don't tell them what the fuck to do so this really isn't very realistic. If we're using the viruses. What started US getting down the crumbling, you'd have. A really good idea, because yeah, you can, you can do so much with it. And he threatened peoples health their safety, just in in their own body, and people are so willing to go along with all right. This is what we do. This is what's going to happen next for good reason for good reason, but. So deadly virus deadly virus kicks off the story that starts the crumble. That starts to crumble. I think maybe even where we're saying. It's going be a dystopia theme. Maybe this is the fall of civilization. It was a great civilization. Yes, these were successfully in a state of like almost utopia. Where you know people get along. We don't have problem. We're living on Mars. Everything's cool in the virus. Why in cars and you know busted egg sac franchises on every corner loved the buses, egg sac, and if they're not going there, go two zero zero g lounge. That's right the Oj Land Yeah. Oh Gee Latch. Okay, so a virus stuff if that is the case I'm going to go ahead and continue to be topical, and it's coming out right out the gate for me since since you put it there. Our escalation are act one excavation. This isn't the fundamental escalation of the of the film, but the act one escalation is people being to woke. We live in this great society. Right where everybody is tolerant. Everybody is sensitive to the needs in the in the plight of others so on and so forth. This is why we don't have. Homelessness in why we don't have issues with mental illness and all of this because people go, that's not. That's a problem that we need to deal with. Not just that somebody else's problem, right? And we've gotten to a good balance of that where we take care of it, but we don't. We don't get snippy with each other about it. But the virus hits and suddenly were moving backwards were splitting again because people are trying to figure out what do we do and there are people who are to woke who decide that the people who have the virus need to be treated as a minority group and protected them. Having the virus isn't a problem. That's just part of who they are. There to woke not a majority group, not a huge group, but just a small Cultures Group of folks who very quickly decide that the virus should be celebrated as a difference in our society as opposed to you know carrying the virus, or whatever we've traveled so far now as a as a country as a society as a world where everything there's equality everywhere and it's. Bad bad choice of words, but whitewashed the entire. You know everything is the same. And legs now a virus comes along. People get infected. People don't now. There's division and that's what causes your downfall to late is the fact that however many generations under the future? This is people have never known differences bright so now that to woke. Society is they can't handle it. They're not equipped to handle it. They're going back to sleep. Close your eyes, sheep will. Like that I like that. Mine's is going to be kind of a subplot. Even something that is going to be a contributing factor. I think it's going to be a nice little Easter egg to throw here and there pepper throughout that was thinking about like a new world order kind of situation one nation under copyright. We are one nation now. The whole world is united. As you said it's too woke. Society don't see differences. There are no differences all one one party one government controlling. Controlling the entire world and it's a corporation. Oh I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan of that that elementary dystopia where it's like yeah, of course in the future, the government is just corporation a major corporation. Maybe Disney maybe Disney, because as we know, they're not really trying to take over the world now, and they're not making as much money as Tesla Nah not even so the question I guess is. We have this corporation running things? and. It's in their best like is. That is the whole Utopian thing because it's in their best interests that literally everyone works for them, which means that they get to dictate at any given time, essentially how much money anybody has or even need to have money because we can provide everything to our workers. To make sure that they are perfectly happy. Little sheep, you'd never caused problems or any questions posing the questions. Just I like the idea of the money. It's you do your job. That's how they get rid of unemployment. As long as you're doing a job, you survive You know they give you your rations. you know your fridge is always full with whatever product they of concocted for us. You drink what they drink, you know we don't have to fight over coke and Pepsi Anymore I wanna say all the EDS. What if we did lake truth in advertising, but took it to the next level Pepsi, for when they don't have Coca Cola. They own. They own all the products all the rates, all the trademarks, all the whatever it's like. They're not even trying to sell you anything anymore. They can be read up on front. Street with all their advertising. Yes. One hundred percent. They're just like no. Yeah, we own all the things. Just get whatever you want, but you know some places prefer to have this because we need. They let you know. We need to have diversity, so we've created. All of these products are the all these products and they just let them be out there like you know what you want. As long as you know, you stay within government mandated health limits so that you can be healthy enough to do your job. I imagine like with something like that and I'm not hoping taking picture I'm sure I'm not. What would the NFL be like? Would they have? How many teams do they have now thirty to thirty two teams, so you get thirty two teams, but there instead of the AFC and the NFC get the red team in the Blue Team, and they just take squads and every week you have like five or six games going on, but it's just different players from the red team and different players from the plutonium, and you either root for the blue or the red. I'm an Oakland Fan I'm a Baltimore. Fan, it's just like team red team blue. That would be a sign to. You wouldn't even get to choose just to make sure it's one hundred percent. Even you get assigned to team. Read or two team blew from birth, and it's the randomly rotate to you. Don't get too attached to it and become really like divisive about it. It's like team read this year. What are you I'm team blue okay. Good luck. Go team read, but also team blue. Like number fifty five, who's that I don't know who's playing this week. They rotate the numbers to. The players players play for both sides, so you can't have any favorites. All where just fully face guarded masks, so you can't tell who they are. They're all generally the same size you. God help us. Or you know what this is, this is. This is the future we don't even have humans play anymore. It's just robots, some real steel shit, although I guess real steelhead, actual people behind the robots, but whatever okay all right so one corporation runs the entire world. And, they just got it set up so that people are. Passing Louis. Accepting, what's going on just passive? Okay, all right all right so in the same vein as my first pick, which is an escalation of the problem of the virus, and people being ill equipped to really deal with divisiveness. Going with another escalation. This is definitely a side plot. I don't know that our main characters to affected by it, but I think that there at least I don't know if any of your picks are concerning the main character, but I think our main character, maybe one of their family members whether it be apparent child's or Somebody else who's closely involved with our main character gets caught up in a vigilante group K. so at the same time that people are are ill prepared for divisiveness. Some sort of polarizing figure I'm thinking maybe like an astronaut somebody whose job it is to go and explore the rest of the cosmos right so they're not all constantly under the thumb of the corporation. They've had time out in space? You know how they have that thing. I can't remember what it's called, but we're astronauts like yeah. Seeing the earth from space will fuck you up like it fundamentally changes your perspective on a lot of things. Now imagine that amplified to seeing other planets or visiting stars, galaxies and Shit, and they've come back and now the world is way different from when they left, and they're expected to integrate back into it, but they've got their own opinions. They're not used to being under the thumb of the corporation, and so somebody close to the main character gets caught up in that movement with this new polarizing figure who's got opinions that we can flip that idea and Ted and instead of being young. Young people like it usually is. It's like older people who are like yeah. My Dad told me about a time when people would make their own decisions and coke and Pepsi Work Worth. Same Get mad if they didn't have what you. It's like you said a vigilante Colt. That's kind of a covert uprising that will never make it because the corporation has so much power but it's the old time. He guy that. I tells stories of how it was when we lived on earth. Yeah. There's gotta be that scenes like you think you think this. Is You think this is wonderful? You know we had a place where you were allowed to think for yourself. You could choose the things you wanted. You weren't a sign. Which football team was your favorite? Unreal real humans put their lives on the line to entertain us in sports. There's gotta be a scene. I'm thinking like Second Act. Up until that point, this figure has been like on TV or on the viewing screens as like this returning hero. And all this other stuff, right? And it's at this point. The corporation isn't really aware that that person is the leader of this uprising cult. And so we get this scene where the the side character is gets involved in one of these one of these plots one of these events. And then it's taken back to some sort of headquarters, and it's the reveal of who that person is and Bam. It's astronaut man and he's got some shit. Say what if it's not astronaut man, what if it's a woman? I might I just I gave myself another pick, so we're going to keep that in there. That's GONNA in Maine through plot now. That's not a subplot anymore. All right all right but I like that one the Saji. Saji one that's kind of got some wisdom to share it for my pick. I'm going to. I'm going to give you the driving point for your subplot here, the corrupt corporate executive I think there's going to be somebody in the corporation that has heard word of this. You know subplot person and they're trying to help from within the corporation so that we got an inside man to work with. You're all wise all knowing Seiji Cana person. Is this our main character or continuously is continued to be a subplot or no I think now I think we should do main character here. He's a guy that has some standing within this corporate thing he knows the corporation is trying to cover up this deadly virus so he wants to get this information out and seeks out the help of this Seiji. person who has this little underground resistance? They were go there. It is okay. Her main characters, the inside man, teaming up with sage, person who they don't discover for a while, yes. Yes a lot of our first acts, setting up the world, and then getting to the point where we realize the sage person is very important and then trying to find them. Yes I. Mean. I, mean I'm in all right, so I'm going to pick another character also within the corporation. This is going to be a jump forward without really talking about what happens later, but it covers a necessary element of any of these kinds of movies and I'm GonNa go with our our main characters confidante, so there's always gotta be somebody always somebody. That they think they can trust that. They like they're working on their own. They're doing their own thing. They start to make headway and they're thinking. I. Know this person I know this person's super well and I can trust them. I can bring this to them. And so that character exists for our for a main character. The thing is and this comes up later. Main twist, not the main element but a twist. Is that for every human worker in this corporation the way the corporation keeps track of and keep tabs on all these people is by assigning them. A. Hyper Realistic Lifelike cyborg think that's the proper term here we're talking about for all intents and purposes they think is human, but it's really their entire purpose is to keep an eye on the human workers by being their best friend. This is the ultimate in you know facebook technology of figuring out what you're thinking, and when you're thinking it to insinuate themselves into your life, become a good friend of yours confidant, and then whenever if you slip? They're gonNA find out because you're you're going to be. That's going to be the person you. You talk to so replicans. Yeah, this may be somebody. You've known your whole life whole life and never knew that behind the scenes. You know this is not even a person because you didn't like one of the things that the corporation manages do is. Are we going to hire random people to work here? No, we're going to groom them from birth to be exactly what we need in the position that we need them in, and we're also going to make sure we control their life Truman show style through all these other people and and. Whatnot to make them into exactly what we want including your best friend. Who is our AI, replicant? We keep tabs on you. It's the The man in the chair Yaw for the for the main character. Know. He's really good with computers. I don't know why. He's always just smacking the keyboard, and it always turns out. Perfectly may be because he is one. Among so I'm going to build off of you or insurgent sagely person that is somehow has all this knowledge of the old ways of things. And I, think I'm just my fourth pick. I'm going to do one of the twists. One of the big reveals is somebody. We don't know who uploaded Alexa into one of these. Plants in society, and so it is this Cyborg android person that has all of the knowledge from the old world IOS sign. The characters name has to be Alexa. Yes, characters name has to be Alexa. And you don't even think about it normal last name normal last name, maybe the color. Alex Lexi. No, they call her Alex, so he's got this hood on and play as a male the whole time, and then the reveal is the hood comes off and it's Alexa female we never. We thought it was a dude in this whole show it's a check and she knows everything. Okay, okay, so Alexa. How does she get around the fact that the corporation knows everything? Is it because she's an a I think she's been around long enough. She's seen them rise to power and knows. Knows how they're doing. She knows about the plants. She knows how to identify the plants. Slight knows everything all of the machine learning of potentially centuries of being around, and she's still doing it. She's still absorbing all of this knowledge. Every internet search she logs. She knows what's happening. She's still plugged into it all. Yes, she still locked into the mainframe. Maybe that's her throne. Room is like she's got this leg. Big Old game of thrones, looking thing that would basically plugs are in when she sits in this thrown in it feeds all this information and her at a rapid rate. Wow, okay. So, our main sage character is Alexa. That's that's got my brain spinning, so she's the main stage character play it off as a man reveal. It's a woman second reveal. It's one of these replicant. Sort of a is third element of that reveal its Alexa with all the knowledge of mankind, going back to when issues I created. She has the power of the Internet in her brain. She can be anyone. She knows all the patterns of speech. She does all of the. frigging, she knows all the words all languages. She knows so whole. Okay all right I got it. I got it. Tell me if I'm crazy here. I don't WanNA throw too many spanners in the plan here. All of this started with a virus, the whole thing was identifying the people who had virus as not being a problem. This isn't an issue. Right and we know that the government company government. Corporation is trying to cover up this virus. To some extent, right? The question we ask is why why cover up a virus when you control everybody, you could just play it off. You can just go virus. No big deal. We'll fix it. As we fixed everything else right. You wouldn't have to go into panic mode unless virus is a real problem that could somehow let the cat out of the bag that things aren't what they seem. So the issue with virus that the reason they're really trying to put a lid on it and really trying to clean it up is because it's a virus. A computer virus that's affecting these AI replicans that they keep around to keep tabs on everybody and influence world. Bees are being influenced by some sort of virus. That's causing them to be divisive. They're supposed to be bring everybody together. Keeping everybody in line seated agents throughout the world, but now they're causing shit. They're bringing it back. So that's our virus. Everybody's worried. Everybody's well. No, because they're not worried because they're just we'll do. They're worried. Right? People are worried. They think they can get those virus. That seems to absolutely ravage. And like no, because I think if you know the virus is what's causing the downtick here so if we do it as a computer virus, they're already trying to cover up the fact. There is a virus so I. Don't think the viruses public knowledge. No, the virus is not necessarily public knowledge. The issue of people falling ill and disappearing is an issue right so that's where the conspiracy comes in. That's where the cult comes in. That's where all this comes in is. People are falling ill and then disappearing and people are concerned about that, and that's where divisiveness comes in. Some people are like this isn't real. You know This isn't about some sort of virus. This isn't about some sort of government conspiracy. This is just whatever and other people are like. No something's happening these people. My best friend started acting real weird a minute. See Him again, or they started acting real weird, and then the next time I saw them. They weren't acting the same. They weren't the same how they used to be. An. After a couple of months, they started acting the same. Soak in that information and get back up to speed. Yeah, because they factory set them uploaded a you know pre virus settings, and then they're missing like two months out of their life can. Catch back up, so that goes along with the whole like to woke thing people start acting funny, right. They start acting more aggressive. They start acting more or You know not agreeing with everything speaking out all this other stuff, but really it's these androids and so Initially the explanation that the government gives is this is a virus. It's causing their brains to act crazy. We got around him up right and so people are fucking terrified. We're going to get you know I'm GonNa. Get this virus and I'm GonNa Start Messing things up. We have this perfect site. We have great society where everybody gets along I. Don't want to get impacted by this brain. Brain bug that caused you to start frigging the fuck out. Because then they're gonNA. Put me in a cage right and then it stops, and people are like Oh that never happened or there wasn't really a thing. And then that's that divisiveness because that seed that started with the virus. Is Now people going well? There was no some people going there was nothing wrong with those people when they were speaking out. Why was that a problem? What's that's just people being who they are? Why do we have to cure them? So that's the to woke element of. We'll just let anything slide even if it was a virus and people were acton outside of their normal. And, then we go to the other side. It's like no, this was a problem. We have perfect side. We shouldn't mess that up by disagreeing that ended up. And then from there escalates into this the rest of these issues with divided divided nation I can get on board with that one well thought out well planned and made up on the spot ca JAP completely. So for my fifth and final pick I'M GONNA. Go with another thematic elements alternate reality now now I'm GonNa Change it. I'm GonNa Change My. Pig mid pick alternate history, so this home movie plays on this whole thing. We're living on Mars and did today and we've got this new virus that bub-bubba pla. The alternate history has been wiped from everybody's mind. The fact that the what Alexis trying to get out is the fact that this is all happened before on a little planet called Earth, and that's why we're on. Mars now is because we got this virus that started wiping out the entire population, and so we put everybody on pods and sent them up to another planet to. To populate and now everything's Hunky Dory, and we don't talk about that place. We used to live. That's your alternate history. Is Earth some far off planet? The will never get to maybe someday in the space program will fly there, but it's GonNa take us like nine months to fly there. We don't have any ships that can fly that far. We're dealing with flying cars. Okay and then the I well, you can figure out how they're gonNA. Get it, but you know Alexis trying to get out that no, this is this is. This is round two for us. Okay, this is our do over there trying to tell you that everything's fine. It's not fine, you know. They fucking got us here on a lottery system and This has all happened before back on earth, not the exact situation but virus. We'd gotten to a good place. Buyer comes along ruins everything we ruined ourselves. Put some folks on pods head to Mars to start over some big corporation comes along and says hey. We're GONNA lottery system. WE'RE GONNA fly people to another planet to escape. This will pay for everything. We'll give you jobs Papa Papa, and by now the original population who knew anything about it had been so controlled that that information has just gone. Yeah, and and it's been a long enough time now that those people are dead. Dead and gone and what's in the history? Books might be our history You know it talks about even religion talks about who says it's Mars. Let's say it's earth. They talk about the earth we are. We are the earth where this this and this There's another planet out there. That was devoid of life and everything that you know the closest planet to us. It has a moon and nobody goes there because it's uninhabitable. The history that we know still exists it. Just all took place on Mars. It's a earth, but it might not be the earth where from. Gotcha Gotcha Gotcha. You know everything's. fucking you know unicorns and rainbows, and and everybody's happy with the life. They have not knowing that it's completely fabricated reality in a completely fabricated history that we're all living in, and that's what Alexis trying to get out in the open. Okay, here's what it is then one of the things that has made it very difficult to maintain the illusion is the fact that we already have high science, so we have the ability to look at the surface of other planets, so one of the things that it's made it very difficult to maintain this ruse is if. If, anybody ever gets to see the surface of this other planet that maybe we'll get to some day, then there might start to be questions. What looks like there were cities there? It looks like civilization their. What's going on so the job of the space crew spacefaring individual that crew that's that Alexa was a part of to explore space. Their job is to make sure that planet is constantly like Jupiter stormed up like they maintain like a series of world, churning machines that keep cloud cover permanent huge swirling storm's going on the we just go all. Crazy planet out there. That's always got storms. You ever seen the surface, not We can't you know. We've tried to send all kinds of probes in all kinds of landers, and all this other stuff it gets torn up by the storms that rage across the entire planet at all times, and so we've managed to obscure the face of earth. And so Alexa as the end cap to this movie has sabotaged one of those machines. The thing that happens at the end of the movie is people. These groups of people who are super interested in watching the stars and. Watching. Other planets see a break in the storm and are able to record the first images of the surface of this other planet, and its bombed out as like New York City. We see the buildings we see the what's leftover of this. This old civilization you WanNa. Make it even more fucked up. The corporation came and said Hey. We're going to do a lottery system. System we'RE GONNA take people to Mars getaway from this deadly virus gone off the planet. We're going to put these storm cloud machines. They're swirl, shit ups and bake ever sees what was. There were good and cover a past. Everybody's GonNa Forget about it. Meanwhile back on her science wins. They find a cure. The CRA- clouds clear and they can see their people their. Living, normal lives, bright lights big cities. You're not alone. Yeah. Earth is still doing their thing Alexa with their Alexa out the truth, and switched sides and her whole thing for this reveal. She's like I've got to know I've gotta know because through all of my knowledge and all my calculations, enough people survived that life finds a way. To quote Dr Ian Malcolm lie fines. Okay, you, WanNa recap, and then start digging more into this. Yeah, let's hear. Let's hear the what we got, so we've got a deadly virus running rampant in a to woke society. We have a corporate government. We have a insurgent led by a sagely person named Alex. Our main character is inside the corporation, but his hearing is questioning things. He knows about some virus, but he's not sure why they're addressing at the way. They are to keep things in check their our AI plants everywhere. It is revealed that the insurgent leader Alex is actually Alexa. Memories of Alexa stored in one being. The virus is a computer virus. We're dealing with some kind of an alternate skewed history that everybody knows, and it all culminates in Alexa revealing the to the people of Mars Bright Lights, big city one of the scenes. I think would be cool. And I think this is how she gains power to the point where she can turn off the cloud machines, and this is when the inside man finds out about Ai Plants is, he brings Alexa to his his little secret hideout. He's got his main behind the chair. Remain in the chair. That's actually one of these cyborg plants. And Alexa just has some kind of a probe weapon, and just stabs him in the head with it, and then uploads olive her memories into him so he becomes lake her. Alexa to, and then that's how it starts to spread. Is they narrow down these who these cyborgs are, and she starts just uploading her memories into them. They start looking at these would be hospital records right for these people who've been sick, but these people who've been sick have really been these android is this whole time so they start hunting down these people who have gotten sick from the virus, and then give him the Alexa virus, and maybe that's kind of wet, started the viruses Alexa trying to spit out some information and see how they react to it. You know there is go black, and they just fall over that's. People are just like what the fuck happened to him. The hell at a ill shit now. Do we save casting this movie for a different time? Or do we throw out some ideas now? Yeah, we do. We cast it I was thinking walking Phoenix Joaquin Phoenix for for our inside man. Yeah! Okay, because he's methodist. Fox so I think he would jump at the chance to do a movie on. Mars now I could see him as C.. Walking Phoenix does do one. Yes, he is method to you. Definitely see Joaquin Phoenix suit and tie buttoned up some sort of sea level executive. Executive for a major corporation. You know doing his own thing. You can also him being the one who goes a little unhinged and his like convince something's going on, but manages to keep it together long enough to like research it, and then become the hero that same story sort of who is like pursued at a certain point. You can see him going through those stages he's. He's got the look. He's got the to to handle all those different. Parts of the character so I I'm I'm down with Joaquin for that Alexis. Super Tough I would now bear with me here. Because could be I. don't know how this gets received, but Alexa is multiple is cast as multiple characters. Multiple people play Alexa. We have this situation where Alexa is a lot of different of these is that she's managed to spike and turn, and so we need to get a base set of mannerisms where we get. Five to ten different female actors, and we just go all right. We need you all to behave the same. We need you to play the same character down to the mannerisms. Well. I think that would be. They don't necessarily need to look like no. No, no, no, no, they look very wildly different, even with different accents, but the mannerisms need to be distinctly Alexa like these different women who are from different places. Are All. Alexa like all have all been infected by Alexa and so whenever she shows up, it might be a different version of her, but they have these similar ticks. These similar behaviors that lets you know this is Alexa even though they're different. That's challenging because it's the opposite of. What happened on Monday? You ever see that it's like the opposite of that instead of one character playing seven like seven characters playing one. Can I give you a real weird pick? That's coming into my head that came into the head, a couple of minutes ago, and I was like analyzing it like this. This can't be paying. For the for the friend, the friend Cyborg man in the chair and do you know why had banging out of my head for no reason Josh Hartnett why not. What's he done lately? I don't know but I was just like he had to have done something he had gotten. Be Too because hidden done anything in a long while, and I'm just like Josh. Hartnett is some sort of creep and I didn't know it. Because, otherwise otherwise I'm Josh Hartnett you know what he got out. You know it was it was. Could you in Hartnett and cut your made? It happened in Hartnett fell off. That's what happened there. There was only room for one of those, too, but yeah I. I say Josh Hartnett is demanding the chair. Only because that's square-jawed, motherfucker would make a hilarious hacker type who ends up being an android winds up being an android exactly. Man I yeah I I would. This would definitely be one of those ones where I talked to my friends and hype it up way too damn much. Like you gotta see it. Man and I think this movie would get a solid like forty five on rotten tomatoes. Yeah, yeah, there'd be a lot of people upset that it takes place on Mars and the own. The only element of it that actually matters is like it's not worth ninety five percent of the movie. You don't even know. It's Mars because it's. It's in a city, and then every now and then there's like Vista shot, and you're like Oh, yeah, red planet out there I. Yeah, okay, that will cap off our p three in space series. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we enjoyed doing it i. think we had a good time to miss him for letting us do two of the. The episodes there will ferrell and Eric for helping out with that Dave, de Ebony words of wisdom for us. Yeah, actually I was I've been prepared, usually come off the top with this, but I've actually been prepared with this win for a couple of days now for a very specific reason, we went to the moon, and we had a grand old time. Time on the moon, we traveled for months to Mars to film this movie and we win maybe a little crazy, listening to the same few songs over and over and over again in their different contexts. Do you know we didn't think about across this entire time we gotta go home dog. We still gotta go home. Our trip back is just as. Long. If not longer that longer. Our editors are going to have plenty of time to get the movie ready like you, but do. We got another couple of months back to the moon free supply head back to Earth. The Shit is going to be think about when you go on a trip, and you've been like while out the whole time, and then it's time to go home, and you're on the plane or in the car, and just like I'm I'm not in a good place physically or mentally. and. That's bad enough. When you gotta take you know a five hour, flight or Heaven, forbid you're overseas and you got like eight to twelve hour flight on your hands. You gotTA drive for a couple of hours. You know for half a day or a whole day. Imagine then having to get back on that party ship at home. Dude at least we have fun on the way home. So, ultimately, my words to the wise of this can be prepared for the ride home. crewmate came back from vacation the other day, and it was just like they stumbled in the house and looked immediately miserable from not taking enough time to recuperate before having to do that six hour. Drive back to the house. So you know how `bout you. Think about that when you're going on vacation, pace yourself marathon all right, so that concludes our space series back to normal for the month of August. We do have a fund series planned for September I think you guys legged. 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Episode 8 - Five Star Travel with Claire Woods

Travel Unraveled

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Episode 8 - Five Star Travel with Claire Woods

"Welcome to travel unraveled. I'm your host. Blake join me each month as I sit down with friends world. Travelers and experts of all kinds candidly and unapologetically discussed any and everything travel my guest right now. The beautiful the vivacious. The Wonderful Miss Clare Woods senior attorney with the natural resources. Defense Council Claire. Welcome Hi Blake. Thank you so much for having me. Today I'm thrilled to have you because you're genuinely one of the smartest women I know and and someone who's really doing good work which I can't say about everybody. Now you've been around the world You work with stuff domestically but world issues and you've lived a life. I've been around the block a few times all right. Well let's let's start with. You're the only person I physically done a couple strip with how was that? It was a great couples trip. Honestly it was the best couples trip of my life. I know another one no but it was so fun. Because do your viewers know about Tara. Talk about her periodically. Well I've been friends with Blake's lady Tara for many many years and the best thing about a couple's trip is that when you don't want to hang out with your escrow anymore you can hang out with your girlfriend and that can be the whole trip if you want it to be really and that was great. Agreed agreed but beyond that. What about the couple's trip? I mean it was an amazing trip. It was amazing. It was incredible. We went to four different locations in the Philippines and most of them were island locations. Actually all of them were island locations. We stayed at some beautiful hotels in. I am a hotel AFICIONADO. I like my hotels. Did I like them to be a luxury? Yeah and do. We stayed in some beautiful places and also had a lot of fun. We did some hiking some adventuring. We did some snorkeling and diving regarding. It was really really fun trap. Not your favorite activity. You mean okay I get cold. It's cold down there. I'd never done it so enlighten me and the listeners. I need a double suit. I usually. I've found that when I put on a double to wetsuits. It's better I get less cold just because of the depth it just. I think it's just it's just cold down there and I. I don't like that and I also feel a little claustrophobic. It's I don't like it. I always think that I'm GonNa like it and then when I'm down there I'd like maybe I should just be snorkeling. How many times have you gone diving? Maybe ten okay so enough. I mean you've done the safety checks in this and that it's not being in a strange place and you don't trust the equipment. It's well that too because every time I've gone diving it's been like you know the Philippines where I don't really know what these people are doing. Yeah Yeah we're on now. What kind of the British Virgin Islands? Where I learned how to dive I. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know but ultimately you being cold it's mainly just me being called and feeling link if you go snorkeling in a really awesome place you see so much marine life and it's so beautiful just to go snorkeling like the benefits of diving. Aren't that great compared to snorkeling. Look I'm with you? I've never gone scuba. I'd like to and honestly you guys were pitching it pretty hard at the time and I felt like I might have been missing something but just given the world climate. You have to imagine ten twenty years like there's not gonna be snorkeling and Scuba. Even I go to Hawaii every year. It's it's done there is you know they'll still bring out on the boat and be like. Hey come here you might see now. There's they're just trying to milk the tourism. So it's pretty devastating. It is it is and as an environmental lawyer is. Is that a part of why you do what you do or is that just something you did before all this devastation. And now that just something that keeps you going. Most of my work is to protect people from things that other people have done to them by the organization that I worked for does plenty of oceans work and marine life preservation and endangered species work. And I've had those cases to some extent but the cases that I really care about are the cases to protect people and cases that have to do with toxics in our air or toxic. Send our drinking water or chemicals that are that communities are being exposed to those are the types of cases that I mainly focus on so. I don't feel that motivated by the bleached coral. Although I do think it's really sad and I hope that other people are working on it. I mean I agree in that. People are shit up people on people like we're screwed. Yeah people aren't loving people enough. Would you agree with that? I mean he s affirmative. So how do you effectively do your job when you you feel one thing emotionally but you have to maintain like a cool and just be very? I need to present a case I need to legally. It's really hard like sometimes I have clients that I really deeply care about and that I'm really invested in and I'm not always able to be as successful as I want to be. On their behalf and that is really challenging. A tweet. The Mike you're doing this. Oh wow coming in from up top here we go. I'm not dismissing that. You just said I agree with that. That's difficult it's difficult to balance people versus the planet. Right it is. I mean because every time we you know make a decision to turn on the lights for most of us though that's in the past at least has been generated by coal fired power plants and that is terrible for the environment thankfully people are trying are starting to turn to renewable sources. So that's great. Is there something that got you into being an environmental lawyer like wh? Why'd you go that route? I took a class on environmental justice in college and I was really struck by the fact that communities of Color And Low income communities bear the the most intense burdens from environmental harm so chemical companies and other manufacturing facilities industrial facilities are often cited in a communities of color and low income communities. And that's kind of why I got interested why applied to law school why. I started working and doing environmental work so as a woman of color yourself does that inspire you more to achieve towards people of color one hundred percent great. I mean I think. That's that's something we hear. And see from a lot of the media and lot of people but we don't necessarily hear real advocates working and doing that all the time. So that's encouraging You're from kind of a mixed background and mix death necessity. Can you talk a little bit about like? How do you identify as a person of color? It's something that is a constant source of introspection for me? I have two sisters. There's three of us. We all look very different. We all have different skin colors and its identity is complicated. It's complicated to figure out like where you fit in especially when people in my family all look so different and when I was in college I had the experience of being involved in the black community and that was incredible for me. I Made Amazing Friends in college and we were raised as black. My mom instilled in us that we were black and but it was hard we grew up in Palo Alto pretty much surrounded by white families and most of my friends were white and so it was. College was the first time that I really was identified. And that sort of identified in that way. And it's been interesting exploring that throughout my adult life trying to figure out like who? I am a racially and who I am culturally. And it's an ongoing expedition. Yeah I appreciate the honesty for that because you know I think it's so cut and dry all the time so I know one thing I know very little from what terrace told me but I know at some point in high school you move to Europe and lived in Switzerland if you're willing to open up about that. What made that happen? That's not a normal sort of thing you hear about but also more importantly how did that sort of define your life and how you view the world so my mom was raised by a woman and a black man and when she was forty her mom told her that the man that raised her was not her real father and that her real father was Iraqi. That's where the she was forty when she was forty so I was. I don't know like eight or something at the time. So is this a or call it. We look even at eight years old. You understood that yes. I remember like I have this scene in my mind. My Mom and my and my parents were just getting a divorce at this time but I remember seeing my mom crying like with a letter in her hand and my dad like comforting her. I think maybe I made up that memory but I have that. I have this thought of that happening. And my mom went on a mission to try to her real father or her biological father and she hired private investigator and it took no way. Yeah she found him. She was looking in Iraq but he was actually a professor at the University of Illinois Springfield and she found him. We met him. We met his kids is he had four other kids know he got married after the relationship with my grandmother which was like a Quick Affair. I think and he had beautiful family and grandkids. Who I'm close with now and part of going to Switzerland was meeting family members that we had never met before so the Switzerland trip was a. It was a vacation. At first we were going to Tunisia. I think anyway we were going somewhere in the Middle East. We stopped off in like our layover was in Geneva. My mom had cousins Geneva. We had never met before and the her cousin worked at the World Health Organization so we stayed with them for a few days in. My mom does intellectual property work and he arranged for my mom to do like a tour of the World Intellectual Property Organization which is part the UN and They offered her a job and so when she didn't tell us. I'm not sure when the job offer came in but Eventually we were back in California and she said what do you guys think about moving to Switzerland and you high school age. I was halfway through my sophomore year of high school when we moved very vulnerable. Time in anybody's life So how was that making that decision as a Sophomore? To just say forget my friends. I'M GONNA move to Switzerland well. My mom framed as if we would only be gone for one or two years or one or one and I thought I was going to be coming back pretty soon. It felt like a summer vacation. Yeah and then also I think I was. I think I was nervous about my future. I think I had some anxiety about whether I was going to be a successful where I was in California at the high school that I was going to with highly competitive and I think I was worried that I wasn't GonNa do well. There and Switzerland was Geneva. Going to Geneva was a way to start over to kind of reinvent myself. And that's actually what it allowed me to do. Do you think going there and going to. I'm in a place like Switzerland that as a teenager. How did that define you and kind of the path that your life is taken while I definitely I didn't have any friends at first and that was really challenging but it meant that I dug into school and I did really well in school in high school in Switzerland and I. I think it allowed me to have the educational opportunities that I got when I came back to the states because they focus so much on academics. Because I didn't have any friends but I did have wonderful friends in California who I stayed in touch with kept in touch with you fully kept in touch with my friends from high school actually from growing up from starting in first grade I stayed in touch with all of them and I'm still good friends with them to this day including Tara Never heard of her. But even you know I'm at Tara through Whitney and Whitney and her mom Lee came and visited me in Switzerland. Wow when I was when I was there and it was really special to be able to maintain those friendships. I'm sure I mean I'm the same. I have friends from Grade School and high school in kindergarten. And but I think generally speaking. That's a very rare thing to have especially now. So how long were you there? And when did you come back? I moved my sophomore half way through my sophomore year of high school and then was there throughout high school graduated high school there And then when I was in college my mom stayed there so you know when I was freshman. Sophomore Junior senior in college my all of my breaks would be such a night fighter. Europe for Christmas or summer so even though I was only there for three years like in total it was more like seven great. So I'm an account of leap off of that and we're GONNA get off of the deep personal staff but based on experience. How do you think being in a place like Europe a place where you can go to multiple different countries very easily? Where in America you know. It's a struggle to go to a different state but when you're in Switzerland you're in central Europe. You can go to so many different cultures very quickly. You know on a train on a bus. Whatever how did you think that impacted your life well? First of all living in Geneva is incredible for many many different reasons like the music and art. Scene is amazing. It's just a beautiful place to live. I could talk about that in response to different question but one of the things about being engineer such an international city and the kids that I went to school with at the International School of Geneva were from all over the world from North Africa from Southeast Asia. From this Becca Stan from South America and I got exposure to a ton of different cultures. Early right away like from all over the world. I was in my thirties when I met you know really felt like I had a culture world. You Yeah I think that that really shaped me meeting people from all different places from all different cultures and religions but still having enough Americans to feel at home at the same time and aside from experience like being exposed to all the hat in Geneva. My mom is a huge proponent of travel. Maybe she should be on the PODCASTS. At some point absolutely here but she really even before we were in Europe when we were in California as kids. She took us to India. She took US Japan like she. She took us around and Single mom with three kids like she but she still took us around but when we were in Geneva sh we. Would you know go on a weekend trip to Croatia we drive? You know. It's I don't know I think it was? We would drive through northern Italy Croatia for a long weekend or we would go to Leon in France or Paris for the weekend or we would go to the south of France for spring break. You know it was incredible to be so close to so many different places. We went to Germany with docker. I mean there's just so. In retrospect looking back is it frustrating looking at America Americans and just kind of our lack of cultural understanding where you know in Europe. You're literally you know thirty minutes at times from a different country and a different culture in a different understanding. Where for US in California? We look at people in Texas. And we're like you don't get it. You know yeah it it does seem like there are a lot of divides in our country right now but I also think that if we really made an effort there's so many things to do right outsider back door in the US to like. I just bought a national parks pass this year for the season for the National Parks and I mean Zion. Bryce the Grand Canyon like there's so many places to go in our own backyard that many Americans don't experience and the level of effort that it takes to get to Yosemite is really similar as to the level of effort. It would have taken us to get to Paris when I lived in Geneva. And it's you know. I wish people took advantage of that more and I wish I took advantage of that more. What are your thoughts on sort of the over saturation of that now though with instagram and just just exposure where I mean I grew up going to yosemite all the time but now literally to stay in Yosemite. You got a book that a year in advance because there are that many people worldwide that want to go to Yosemite. Well they want that money shot you know. Hey we all want the money show really do. There's no denying that opportunities opportunities for so and we went to the Philippines. My girlfriend Tara. Who's quietly fly on the wall and Claire and her Her partner at the time Patrick's husband ex husband. I don't know for me. That was a really great trip because I had never done a trip with other people really like definitely not another couple that if obligated to be friends with it was amazing. We didn't get tired of each other very this one time. I have to say I have to say I wasn't no it's not. This wasn't a segue. It wasn't that I was tired of you. It was an incredible experience. Oh my gosh okay. So this one. I CAN'T REMEMBER. It was like this when you sent for bottles of wine back. Oh it was a night in Barak high which is like the party already island we all went out and Tarin. I decided to turn in early. Which was like not even that. I mean I mean not even that early it was like Lebanon and we just. We were staying this beautiful like Shangri La Hotel. I think I don't. It's five star. It's gorgeous five. Sternness very quickly agree on Pat. I want to say that to people who shall remain nameless. Stayed out all night. There's like legends of that night that I've heard about about bottle service and like at some random mice. I don't even know what happened. All I know is that I woke up. Patrick was in the bathtub with water running. I turn it off more. About where pastor? Okay go go get Tara for breakfast because the buffet was delicious. And forget my mom. My you know verbal diarrhea. Well this is what this whole story is about so for some reason I go get Tara in the room next door for breakfast. And she's getting ready and she's like opening the door and she's like Blake wants to come. You did and you were wasted at breakfast. Judicious way of putting not coherent in any kind of way at like ten in the morning it was amazing it was a full night of drinking. Yagan Mazda. Yeah it was it was. I wish I had a video or quotes from that experience. It was amazing that was an amazing trip and we were friends and had fun. It was a fun trip. We had a good time. It was it was an amazing trip. There's no denying it that being said. Where do you like to go? What what type of trips to do. Oh Daddy yeah come on I. I like a luxury hotel. I like a good to park trip. I like to do a little bit of luxury and Bhai a little bit. I mean a lot. Yes five star need to and then. I like to have a little adventure. I actually like it in the flipped order. Though I like the adventure I I like to go on a hiking. Slash camping travel. Yeah you don't WanNa down no and then I like to end it off. With Creme de la creme luxury to the MAX now. Is that just wanting to feel pampered or is that I want to go somewhere and see the best they have to offer? Well it's not when you say they like. It's not like a local people go whether it's but it's like. I like to see the local side of things in adventure part of the trip and then for the second part of the trip. I like to see the best in industry has to offer Shan. I love beautiful hotels. I Love Boutique. Hotels AS DO I. I I stayed in this beautiful hotel. In San Antonio called the Saint Anthony's I mean who would think that San Antonio Texas would have like a stunning hotel but I have to say it was one of the most beautiful hotels I've ever student. It was so gorgeous and everybody was so nice and they really care about service. I don't like big hotels that are just machines. Be like charismatic. And like have little touches and to spe- unique you sure and that's important to to references. We're not talking about international. All the time like there are so many places to go within the states. And God I really feel like every state you go to has just such a wildly different atmosphere to offer. But do you ever feel like you go somewhere like Texas? And you stay in these fancy places and people that are judging you for for living five-star life. I mean I guess sometimes but in San Antonio wasn't like it was that expensive where anybody can judge me. It's not that nice run tonio well. This hotel was beautiful and what I really liked about. It was that it was classic. It was the architecture. Was you know it was just so beautiful? Old World Texas. It was just stunning but I do not love like if I go to someplace like them all which I've been to before and stated a Beautiful Hotel. There part of me wants to share the experience but part of me feels like. Oh Yeah I kind of feel like an asshole but I also just showed you because well because many people don't have the opportunity and luxury that I have to go on a trip like that and I like I've had many. It's not like I've been on that many trips like that but I do really enjoy them and I. There's something about staying in a nice hotel. That feels good to me. And I'm sure it feels good to everyone and feels good too. Many people know I agree. Look if anyone doesn't know me on this. I'm all about that five-star life as well. I don't have to do it every time. I'm not like the I need the five star to survive but God I love it. I mean bring on not GonNa love the best of the best. Bring it on wherever you are like. It's not like I by myself. Nice closer nice purses or anything. Like I don't have any clothes. I wear sweatpants. Ninety five percents of the time but I do. I love a nice hotel. I can appreciate the details. You know I do love it and you know. I'm sorry I don't think there's an apology needed for that. I think any liked to train people to like. Nice hotels to like okay. Speaking of Patrick he about the Nice. Oh to do you really enjoy. I like the breakfast buffet. Okay I like the Nice restaurants. I like spacious room. I like a nice spaw. A Nice Pool area with cocktails I like water sports. I sitting on the beach. I mean these are just basic things that I very much enjoy. Well you know. Basic is relative. These are sitting on. The beach is pretty. I mean so. You're a beach gal over a pool Gal. Well it's debatable. I like I like some get pool time to but on a hot day. I like the beach. Both I'd like to spend the morning at the pool in the afternoon at the beach or vice versa. Like I like to split might as I'm always going to lean to the beach but you're not gonNa have all that service at the beach the pool sometimes. Yeah you might get good service on the beach you might. I don't get shit on the beach member in the Philippines where they had ladies that would come massage on the beach. That was that the pool snow. No it was also on the beach but at the pool to member that massage they. Yes yes yes. That was with her name. Who Cares well? I don't know I had a whole all nighter with a bodily yet. Your meister your ex husband and my adoring life partner. I feel like we really haven't captured my love for hotels. Okay so that being said what's most important in just I think he kind of experience decor and ambiance sure so walking in the wild factor while factor in the lobby in the rooms. Being you know having the lows the sheets the little the little soaps put up in your I mean I like a good south by like a good lotion and like a good mouthwash but multiple lotion. Like yeah I have. Lotions like yeah. the option. Yeah of Lotions. The view I think is important but look you can stay. The Best Satele ever get the shittiest room and be disappointed right. That's true like I'm spending seven fifty and night on this mountain view like nothing. Why do you like looking onto the air conditioner to be honest? I stayed at the Parker and Palm Springs over new years. And I'm specifically putting this in there because it was a travesty up. We have moved rooms three times because I mean in those rooms. That's next lashes was no. I don't know what Splash House is. But it was new year either never heard of it. I have a few questions for you. Wow that's a new one. Hit me him. Where's your favorite place? You've ever been a tough one because it's all relative to the time right so the time it used to be Japan. Circa two thousand nine. That plays blew my mind Really in every way. I don't know it's hard to sum up But that was easily like my favorite place I've ever been on the city. Guy Just weird. I like you know you're not a beach Gal. No I'm I'm a beach cal to on the Pina haven't even talked about a couple opinion. How Shot Tower so Japan You know in two thousand nine. I would have told you my favorite place Honestly the Philippines is easily top. Three now I mean that blew me away. Because it wasn't. I had no expectation and then it was so incredible. That was like wow. I could come back here again again again. You know I also love like can and like south of France. Sicily like places like that where you're wow like just super boozy. Europe. That are just awesome. But they're Buji Europe after bushy but like Africa was like going to ten. Yo is one of my favorite places now somewhere. I would vacation all the time. No but life changing transformative at one of my favorite places for sure. So it's hard for me to say I have a favorite place Yeah it changes every year. I never thought it would but it it tends to change for me now more than you still. What's your favorite hotel you've ever stayed in? There was one in Scotland at Saint Andrews at the golf course literally. It was like a a mansion for hotel room on the golf course at Saint Andrews Scotland. I think that was probably the most impressive hotel I've ever gone to just as far as like walking in like Oh. I'm in a house on the old course. In Saint Andrew's Scotland. I was like thirteen Which also very impressionable. Young ads show broke out accent. We've been watching outlander. Tatas into Biz of the SMUT. I just wish his hair wasn't so red and that he had a little bit more talking about softcore you're more of a hardcore thinks you're welcome just making so won't like we're on your list of you know best hotels to worse. Hotels does your experience at the Pelican hills stand. That was fantastic to play golf there. I love the pride the CEO of the Kiana was here. But we can't tell you. I love that well for the listeners. I just like to say that the three of US went to a wedding there and I was she was there so we shared a room and it was around cheese. Welcome anytime two thirty A. M. and Tara and I were simply ordering room service like normal people and Blake was in the bathtub and it was like one of those windows over the bathtub. That you where you could see from the bedroom into the bathroom and it was quite incredible. It was an incredible. I enjoy a good ball. Oth- I don't think people know that. No I'm all I will take a bath L. Take the shit out of a bath. I'm I'm not really a bath kind of gaffe. Most people aren't look. If I'M GONNA five star it I wanNA use all the amenities WANNA use them and I wanNA use that so I wanna use that tub now like. How's your conditioner? Just why is there a six foot tub in the middle of the room? Yeah if I don't get in it but navy really great concern. You wouldn't have put it there if it wasn't was it there. Why is it an open shaved into the bedroom from the bay? You need to experience that. I'm sure there's a lot of people listening not so much but maybe some of them. I've never bathed well. You know I would like to bring up that the Philippines trip and our little domestic trips but the Philippines trip is not the only international trip we've been on together. We have also been to well of course Mac Mexico. Well that's where daddy was born. That's another story. No we've been to Bali. Bali you into Bali and we met. Okay make sure to separate me but we really have at two two nights in Bali together. You're right yeah. Let's talk about that. How was it when we showed up the AIRBNB and there were guys just doing construction outsider bedroom? I felt great about it. Honestly like I don't feel bothered by that kind of thing but I could see that swindled honestly I mean honestly like we you know. We paid a free place. It wasn't expensive but it was. You're paying top dollar. You're expecting like Indonesian luxury and then literally from the bedroom. Just a guy building a home. Five hundred feet away from you. Here's my thinking. I think that AIRBNB has really hit or miss. Like if you really want luxury go to a beautiful hotel like you're not the purpose of AIRBNB is to have enough space and to have a cooking space to have your friends and family and if you WANNA do that type of thing well yeah I feel like my preference in general is to stay hotel mainly because I also because I'm often at hotels by myself and then I can hang out at the hotel bar. Okay okay here. I'm stop real quick and then we're GONNA dive into the end of this. Okay all right back with my beautiful gas Claire Woods where you can do new segment called. Sorry Tara doesn't like that. It causes beautiful my hideous guests there would God. We do. New Segment called Five. Second rule. Ellen's game you know great. These questions were written by my life partner. You know the rules. You have five seconds to answer three things ready. One two three hoover your first top three celebrity crushes Jesse Williams Josh Hartnett. Obviously and and just those two really. Why Josh Harnett was in my younger years. And Jesse Williams now. What happened to Josh Hartnett? I unfortunately I don't know posts Pearl Harbor like I guess if you're out there. I'm still single me to Josh please. Josh please okay Top three childhood vacation spots go India Tunisia Mexico right now. You got that one. Where in India? We went all over the place. My Mom's really close friend. Robin was the ambassador to India. The American ambassador embassador to India so we stayed at her house in Delhi. And I remember watching Annie she has. She has two kids two daughters and my mom obviously had three daughters. I talked about before and so we Stayed at the House all day watching any and then in the afternoons we would go out and do like adventures and stuff and it was pretty amazing. And then so we did Delhi Jaipur four and we did MMA dross which is now tonight. When was the last time you were in India that trip but I would love to go back? I really WANNA go to Coa. Have you ever been to engine wedding? No I need to go marry some Indian people. What's going to invite me please? An Indian man or woman marrying someone top three random facts about yourself go. I've got great. Quad alone. Takes five seconds to discuss I. Can I take a look at your quads muscle? Thank you thank you okay. I showed a full picture of like a full ash. Just because I've been doing a lot of spots suddenly. Hey squad discoveries all right three things Agai. You're trying to meet on a travel trip. Shouldn't wear go speedo? Weird sunglasses inside and all a weird backpack. I WANNA take my lovely girlfriend. Tara really wants to join this new segment because she loves Kane at some point she might be guests on the show. Maybe should we. Both say are lured him out together and that'll make it clear for the. Maybe we should get closer to the main just one time and make fun of each other. Okay top three worst ideas of where to go for a first date. Go a restaurant swimming. Ask Women under say the movie theater because he don't talk at all Swimming have you ever had a man in by either swim? But if you ever had a guy like you WANNA go swimming. I do go to the gym sometimes and you never know. There's a pool at the gym. You ever meet a guy at the gym honestly. No right like you're sweating. You're working and he's like I think I think that It happens probably I mean I gotTa equinoxes so you know very very very All right it's not that posh. It's just that I think that a lot of people that go there the reason why they go there is to meet people interesting. How `bout this three haircuts a man should never wear go bald long define long like if you have to he and you have to move your hair so the or if you have to go number two and you have to move your hair when you sit down so that it doesn't get in the way what if he's like fob. The owner of the Golden Looks. That's not okay. Not Okay now and what's wrong with bold thing all my guess basically berate me. My physical appearance shoddier very cute very attractive. I guess was like the most attractive men have wonderful hair in where skinny jeans and everything. Now don't like it now. What are the top? Three hotel chains used to like dad. Go Fix Senses Banyan Tree and fourth season. Plenty of time. Okay if you could have any acts of yours on your next trip. Who would the top three act? I mean there's only one two there's two I can't say their name but there are two. There's only two and you know who you are. Okay when you're at a fancy hotel. What is your favorite cocktail? Gin and tonic. A White Russian and Vodka Soda. How dare view not say Pina Colada haven't even talked about a couple of Pena's so blake? I'd like to tell you about an experience you and I had together. I'd like to share it with your viewers. Great we're in the Philippines. We are saying at a beautiful hotel but we just decided we need more and so we decided to go to this island for the day where this like. It was like a Sandbar Beach Hotel and they had to lunch spot and it was very beautiful. I can't remember what this place was called. I followed it on instagram. So we can find south of Sibu. Yeah it was very beautiful woman working on it took some glamour shots on the Sandbar which was gorgeous. I know I have photos for you if you don't have them but you know around midday. Tara and my ex Patrick decided that they wanted a massage or they each wanted to massage and throughout this trip blake and I had been very interested in Pina coladas in very very interested in raiding Zuma Long Island on island right so we have been interested in rating of opinion. And we had been doing this every you know. Every day throughout the trip blake and committed to ourselves that we were GONNA have opinion. Yes we actually started a blog idea called couple opinions but none of you bitches steal it. That's right trademarked. Hashtag couple opinions. But anyway I digress are Esto whenever ever? Ah decided they wanted massages but blake and I were more into the Pena's massages the day before massage just every day almost no we literally had won the day before and that was our arrangement was well we had our own but not to get together so Tara Patrick decide that they want to help us. Ashes and the reception was confused and they booked a couples massage. I've seen the pictures they had. It was a cliffside. Beautiful Bungalow like a cloth bungalow with rose petals impose looking over the ocean. It was gorgeous. Simple naked couples massage next to each other while. Blake and I were at the bar having Pinhas talking about life that is the definition of a couple's trip. I have to say if you can't split up by couples have one couple one. Half of the couples have massages. Together in other penises on a separate from your spouse for thirty minutes let them get butt naked with your best friends sexual partner. Then what are you what? What is vacationing of our. Let's life about but I mean we did experience some tough times with the Philippines. We didn't great didn't hit it didn't except for that. Alona beach that one hotel me warm right. Good Pina has ice and ice cream and like you know. I don't like ice cream. In my opinion I beg to differ. It's all about texture. I don't like it too sweet. Though it needs ice then it needs. Texture can't be all running in. Yes well obviously on Rom and warm water can terrible. But I mean it's a worthy cause Pena's we did it guys. Thank you so much to my wonderful guest this fall. You said beautiful people come to you. I can't say beautiful twice. My Gorgeous Guest Miss Clare Woods. Thank you for joining me. Thank you Blake. Thank you my host for hosting me. You're welcome anytime. I appreciate your input for all of you tuning in come back.

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Ep. 23 | Josh Gad

Curious with Josh Peck

1:34:29 hr | 2 years ago

Ep. 23 | Josh Gad

"I ramble, welcome to curious, Josh pack, start the show. What's welcome back to the show, Josh peck, you're the listener. And this is the curious podcast with me, Josh peck, I'm that guy. Hope y'all had an incredible weekend and are having an incredible week. I just got back from the long as business trip. I was doing something for Bank of America in Pennsylvania, a social media activation, which was actually a really good time because it was held it like a sleep away camp, which I haven't been to since I was nine and went home from. Early as in like twenty seven days early from thirty day plan sleep way trip because I was homesick and a mismatch mom. And I realized quickly that I was going to be an attent with six other boys and what I deemed to be an unfit counselor and thought better of it and decided that it would be best if I started crying uncontrollably so that the the camp staff and administrators would quickly put me on the phone with my mom, and I knew that I had heard just wrapped around my chubby little finger and that she would, you know, lickety-split be in Connecticut. The next data to come pick me up and she was there and I went home and it was pro. She probably didn't get her money back from the camp, but you know what I'm over it and I hope that she is too. But yeah, it was a good trip. I always in Pennsylvania for that. Then I went and spoke at Bucknell university Lewisburg PA great kids, twelve hundred kids. Came to watch me, talk about shed and try to make them laugh, sort of maybe knows good. I've done. I've done like ten of these. College gigs over the last year, and now he's really nice time, and it's cool to see the the turnout in the effect and and to sort of have that college experience if if not more than for an hour or two because I didn't get that. And I think it's sort of charming and attractive. And I wonder, you know, I think about that. I have a kid on the way and that like I really can't wait for my kids have that experience of, you know, just being ETA college in making friends and limited dorms in a bunk bed, preferably with like one of those bunk beds where the desk is under it, you know? So they're like doing their homework in this little like hutch built in rooms, plus Ashley furniture, sort of loft bed thing that you can only really own till you're like in your mid twenties. Because if you have one of those after that, it's just weird. It's just. Infantile that you sleep higher than three feet off the floor. But yeah, I can't wait for my my kid to sort of have that experience, and I hope they're smart and do well in academics because I was not that way, but I would be sad. I would be sad to see him so far away from me. I was looking at those kids and I had a very dad moment of God like your parents, miss you, or Jimmy, some of your parents suck, I'm sure and don't miss you. They're just happy to be in their own routine doing their thing, but I'm sure the majority, a good amount miss you guys, you know, and I'm sure they live all over the country and they're hoping that you're not drinking too much and making complete fools out of yourselves, which I'm sure most of them are. But no, they were smart kids, smart kids. Nice Cates. Good time. I like the college gigs. It's nice to new thing for me. What's going on in the news cavenaugh he's on the supreme court. I don't want to politicize this podcast because I'm not the one. I think if I have any sort of good quality, it's my wariness of which in my opinion is probably not the best voice and things of this matter. And that people like die. Don't know. Trevor Noah or Bill Maher. John Oliver Oliver are probably more fit to sort of expound on the things that I feel. I think we, I probably share political sensibility with all those guys look up to them. Well, I like them. I don't know if I look up to them. I like them all, and but. Yeah, it's been an interesting thing and we'll see what happens. But sure is democracy in action, isn't it? I mean, our elected officials confirmed this guy. You know what I mean? So I'm not love it and people might not love it. Some people like it. I don't know, but inevitably, this is the system at work. If you want to change it, vote for it. Go out and vote do that shit because you can vote soon. I don't know when exactly you know. I know I was about to sound like someone who really was responsible and cared about his civic duty. I, you know, I care enough to mention it here and I hope that you all Google the exact date when it is our turn to vote. I believe it sometime early November. So best of luck. And then what's Conor McGregor could be fight this weekend. UFC actually watched it with my big brother 'cause I was in Florida for my nephew's bar mitzvah which was a time. It's actually a good time, and I was with my brother watching it. And basically if you don't follow it, there was a big lead up to this and Connor being the trash talking sort of savant that he is attacked just could be on every level of his humanity and said, all the things one should never say to another human being. Even if it's all out of the desire to sell a fight and make unheard amounts of money. In doing so. But yeah, Connor trash talked him. Good. Could be took it to him in the ring, submitted him lickety-split, and and then proceeded once he wanted to jump over the cage and start a small riot and the t mobile arena by going after Conor McGregor trainers, and then some of could be teammates went after Connor. And it was a whole fucking thing and it was slightly wish fulfillment. I'm sure for every fight fan as I am one of them where WWE and professional fighting merge to where it's become just as like real spectacle. Like, you know, it's one thing for it to happen in the ring. But then as soon as it starts happening outside the ring and you think like fucking undertaker and John CENA are gonna come back up Khabib and some hardcore match outside the ring. And then you know stone cold and. The hardy boys are going to run in back McGregor and it's just gonna turn into like this crazy Royal rumble UFC style, and Joe Rogan's in the middle of it. And then Joe Rogan gets hit with a chair and he's down. I don't know. It was so in one way it was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is actually happening, and then the adult me thought better of it. And it was like, this is really unacceptable. And I think probably both these guys are to blame it some respect and and I had that adult moment. I remember like after the initial excitement of all my God, he's over the cage. He's in the audience, everyone's going nuts. Like I then eight seconds later. I was like, oh, this is incredibly dangerous. Like I just, yeah, this was this was a bad idea, but it was exciting but dangerous and just a bad bad idea. Glad. No one got to hurt, but that you know, that's what adults do. We worry about people getting hurt, weary about ourselves, getting hurt. I'm very gingerly, walked downstairs at this point. I'm very careful. You know, I feel like in your teens and your twenties, you don't give a shit. You're like, I don't care if we got bruised up break a. Lim, whatever. I'm going to be just fine. I will recuperate in weeks, but now Thuc that I'm like people be like, yo you wanna play, pick up basketball. I'm like, why don't you calm yourself? Their brother? No, I don't because I like my CL's and I don't want to rip every tendon in my knee going for fadeaway or like trying to fuck in. I don't know. I don't know sports terms, but do some cool spin move. And my knee leaves my body for a pickup basketball game. That means nothing. We're not getting paid for this. You're an accountant. I'm an actor kind of end podcast and social media personality, and I need my knees and I can't be, you know, China have my moment here on the court with you and put my body at risk. I have errands. I have important things to do. You know what I mean? And I don't know. You know, it's one thing growing up fat that fascinates me is because like I never had that competitive spirit at least physically because I just knew I couldn't. Compete. I wasn't. I wasn't blessed in that way. And so I'll see guys who were probably once very athletic in high school or college, and then they get into the thirties and forties, and they play these pickup games of fucking flag football, or, you know five on five basketball into the thirties and forties, and they just go so hard. And I just think it's gross and annoying. And Mike, I well, don't be mad when you fuck in, you know a Neilly your rotator cuff when like that elbow that you're like throwing into people's ribs. Hurts you for the next eleven weeks and you're not sure why it's because that pickup game that you made so important because you felt like you were reliving your youth at whatever, you know, high school you were at. It's because you were, you went to heart because you care too much about something that no one after a certain age, recreational sports shouldn't just shouldn't matter. Just doesn't need to be this competitive. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's weird. Tangent. What else? Yeah, I've been fascinated by the infanta lies ING sort of nature of adults as of late because I feel like adults or at least the ones I'm coming in contact with are like all trying to relive their youth, and I think it has to do a lot with like the. The the reboot nature, and everything's being rebooted from our childhood or from our from our twenties. Because, hey, I just think, you know, we're sort of out of good ideas but more. So I just feel like everyone wants to feel what it was like when they were sixteen and like, I can't tell you how many notes I know with annual passes to Disneyland and listen, not no shade, no lemonade. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not trying it on it, but I just find it weird to be like in your early thirties without a kid walking around downtown Disney. I forgive me so Sumi. I mean, no, it's a dope place in this is no reflection on, you know, theme parks in general. I just, you know, or like a dulcimer camper frickin. Yeah, or I just feel like a lot of people need to grow up. I'm big fan of growing up. I like being grown up. I always wanted to be grown up as a kid. I actually thought the whole kit thing was like, I remember the parents and people would say like, enjoy now. It'll never be easy this right now. I'm like, it's not so fucking easy. You know, Mr Simmons. It's not so easy even now it's sixteen or twelve. And would sex Moray now is an, I'm like powerless because I'm a child and so I don't get to make decisions. But when I can, I think I'm going to feel a lot more secure about life and things. So I don't get the whole need to go back and relive childhoods and impose them on. Other people like Seinfeld has agreed joke about childhood or like the invention of our of our parents of the twenties. And on. Because before that before the nineteen twenty s nobody fucking had a childhood, right? I mean, they did, but not really because once you're of a certain age, you went and worked in your father's coat factory or your you know your grandmother's bakery, or you were like on a farm and you're a farmhand to like, you know, when you were of a certain age and ability you worked God it and like, I don't know. And then our parents or their parents, somebody had a childhood before us, and they felt like it was something special and ultra ideallic. And so now we're just like trying to preserve that for our kids and God forbid, they should tastes any bit of the world and its ups and downs and challenges before the ripe old age of twenty or like eighteen and beyond. And so we're all trying to get back there, but I'm not. I'm not trying to get back to my childhood. My childhood was what it was. It was fine, but I'm, I'm happy to not revisit it men. This is a long rant today. Sorry, guess add some shit to say. Today's episode has Josh Gad on it, hard of them, Josh Gad. Oh, you know, just the voice of Olaf in frozen also book a Mormon. Also mad things. So many so many things, movies, television, Josh is incredibly talented, and he was one of those gets for the pod that I couldn't believe we got. He and I were in a movie Cup. The wedding ringer together, directed by my friend, Jeremy Gillick, and he's hilarious in it, Tim and Kevin Hart, and I got to play for a day on it. And as you'll hear in the pot, he was nice enough to do the pod on like. I don't know a couple of days notice and I just couldn't believe he said, yes. So felt really lucky. I'm such a big fan of Josh Gad. I feel like I come across a little bit. Giddy in this episode, but so be it, you know, I'm I'm a fan. I couldn't believe he said yes, and I really appreciate him. So anyway, enjoy Josh. Jerrell Powe, Josh peck here. I you, you are the first Joshua, Josh, that I'm having on the show in addition to myself, will you couldn't get Grogan? I bet I get grove in opens, gettable grow. I could call them right now. Do you want me to try him? You please? Okay. Let's try. It's an immediate. Yes and try them right now. Let's see if we had him on the phone. He's he's probably going to be like, why would you blindside me? You have to call my agents before contacting me. Let's see. Let's see if maybe we just get his answering machine, but it's worth. It's worth a shot. Something tells me he didn't do his own outgoing message on this voicemail. We, he didn't sing it, but I think he did it really. I do. We'll see. We'll see how this is very exciting. We need to get him to sign a waiver over the phone late. How does the technical living. These caught his work. Right. I hope so. I'm sure there's some. He's always traveling. What if he's in like China right now, making him up. Cute. Let's go through all the famous people in your phone. Okay. Next up, we're going to try Emma stone now yet. No come on. Just no see, I knew it. There's no smell and I'm getting a return call and he's going to be like what's up and I go, it's not urgent anymore because you didn't pick up when I needed you. Right. And now you're just calling me and I'm in the middle of something. And you know, you drop the ball grove and he's really did Josh speaking of Josh grove in, I'm as I'm sure you know, Spielberg is doing west side story. Did you know that? I did know, yes. It was actually really ironic because I went to the John Williams. Hollywood bowl concert, and they did like a celebration of one hundred years of Leonard Bernstein. And so they were playing a lot of west side story. And I was like this. This has to be planned because Spielberg was also there. Right? So they're like gearing up for their next collab-. And are you suggesting that I should addition for it? Well, I'm suggesting you should be straight offered it because you're Josh motherfucking Gad. Oh, maybe officer Kripke. That's not terrible. Well, kind of is, but I'll accept terrible. Ish. Yeah, it'd be terrible if it wasn't a Spielberg movie, but so dishes for it or I put it on tape because I hate myself and I like to do things that I have no shot at. And I sent my mom, the audition thinking, and you know, I can sing kind of and thinking, my Jewish mother is going to be like, I am so blown away what she said, you're in Djelic tone. Your dulcet pipes. She goes, it was really good for someone who's never trained. Oh, but they're probably going to give this Josh grove. Oh no, mom. And it was like this one, two punch unintentional complete honesty and truth. I'm like, of course they're going to give it to Josh grove, but I love the fact that like she had to like to add insult to injury, it had to be another Josh, that got it, right. Like an at least like make it like Josh Hartnett. So it's like, you know, like a return to form kind of story, whereas like we're, we're bringing Josh Hartnett BAC yeah, a beautiful, beautiful auspey Pearl Harbor lead God. God. We don't see enough, Josh Hartnett we don't. Let's stay on Josh this. Let's you're at as many, Josh, Josh Molina, Josh Molina, Josh, Josh Lawson. Another Josh. Joshua Jackson, Joshua Jackson, Joshua tree, Joshua tree. Yes. An incredible. Location and an incredible U2. album. Serves two purposes. This is the best. I don't know what the theme of this podcast is, but this this feels great. We're if the, if the podcast is about attention deficit disorder, like we're winning covered now. Well, I just feel so honored that I threw a lob out and hit you up on Twitter. And I was like, I, I love Josh. And like maybe he'd reply actually would say yes to this. There was a good chance. I was going to say no to of don't I know it, and that is my greatest fear and trepidation about this whole podcasting in general. And can I tell you that I've had very few knows really that surprise. I mean. I don't say that word. You're so charming. You're so who can say not you true somebody reach out to Tom Cruise together next and be like, look, I did it. It's harmless. Yes, I'm on the show. Spread the word, spread the love, sit Choi who doesn't want to go to mid Wilshire Friday afternoon. I know I don't, and had I known that that's where I was going to have to go, I probably would have said, no. So as smart of you to sort of hit me up first before you told me how far needed to drive your fair? Yeah, but I have an answer to that too because I have a mobile kid and I. Places. I'm gonna have a word with my. No, this is. This is such a pleasure. You're so unbelievably talented, funny, wonderful, handsome, despite what your mother thinks the to me, I love of. We did one thing together. One time wedding ring her, and you just came in with your nasty little self and stole that movie like in shining armor. And I've, I've wanted to tell you how much I resented you for doing that ever since that day. Thank you, my prints. I, you know, it's, it's funny to, and it speaks your f- ability and generosity as a performer, because as you know, like you and Kevin were the, you know, the leads of this movie and and leads always set the tone. And I was just walking in as a day player. I'm in someone else's home. I'm like, is this issues on home or shoes off? She's always so hard. Terrified, terrifying. Yeah. And I remember and it wasn't even on my Cup. Coverage. It was the cameras on you guys, and it was sort of the first time I was doing this like silly speech that I had to do. And I remember you genuinely laughing. I was blown away and looking at me going like, yeah, do that laugh. That's good shit, and I was like, thank you so funny. There's those outtakes. I've never seen them, but I would love to revisit them because uses literally went on and on and on forever. Me pissed my pants. Well, think it because if you had like if I had done that and you had like sort of cocked your head or like had a small aside to Kevin? Yeah. And then just been stone deeply uncomfortable. I would have been like, I'm fucked. Yeah, I should have done that just to throw you off your game a little bit. She wouldn't have stolen the moving for me, but I didn't think about it at the time at the time. I'm like, I'm going to be generous are, is that just an inherent thing? Or was that learn from other people you'd work with descent, magnanimous being the mayor of the Cy think it's just inherent like I just can't. All joking aside, I literally can't imagine why somebody wouldn't be that, like it's so having been on the other side of that, it's so off putting together on a set and have people just sort of like put up a wall. Yeah, and make you feel unwelcomed just because it's it's really not gonna benefit the environment. Certainly, I don't think it's going to benefit the project, so it's like, why wouldn't you make everyone welcome in your home? It just doesn't doesn't ring as thing to me. But you've obviously had experiences like that, right? Yes, yes. And what do you think it's born out of my observation, it's been is that it just ego run riot where they feel threatened by anyone else who perhaps might be taking just the salivas bit of spotlight. I've found that it's it's particularly resonant on if you come in and do a TV series that's been on for quite some time because at. Crew that group, it's so secondhand for them. And they've been that that really is their house that you're like coming in, and there's times when they are so embracing there. So wonderfully, you know, ensemble oriented, and there are times when they really are just like, come into your thing. Get out. We want to get home before a, you know, like there's a lot of that which I get like I do get it, but I don't know if it's like being jaded or just being over it. It's weird. But is there like I've experienced on certain things. Remember I did this show. When did we start recording by the way eventually. Okay, we'll we'll get into it slowly, but you know, we're live baby. We've been live. This is happening. Let's go back. Yeah, let's go to early GATT. Is your your dad's enough Gani to Jewish immigrant? That is that is all those things are true. Wow. I'm like fifty to death threats only every big because I be like being Jewish, unlike Ohio would be hard, but Afghantistan. Right? No, he grew up in Afghanistan. He he left when he was about thirteen years old. I think at the time it was like sort of cool to like be like a June Afghantistan and then like around when he turned thirteen, it was sort of not cool anymore. So he was like peace out he and his family, and yeah, and they just sort of like moved on out and did he? I mean, obviously thirteen. That's like he had memories experiences at, did he miss it? I don't think so. Get out, you know what I miss mountains, goats, right? Like nobody's ever like really miss because he was like, he literally grew up like by like a goat farm Zych weird like yeah, miss well, water. The fresh. But you know, by all accounts Afghanistan was and maybe still is beautiful land like just breathtakingly beautiful land. And I think just over the years, it's some of your neighbors suck on. That's unfortunate. What's happened over there? Yeah. And so and he landed in Florida? No, no, my parents, but my parents are now divorced. I don't actually speak to my dad very much which is a side story, but it's, you know, they met in New York. And then from there they just got married and started this whole project, Josh Gad. Wow. And here I am looking you. Well, they said at the time I remember there like, do you think there will be something called the podcast in the future? And do you think it's worth creating a person who can be on one? And I think that truly they came to the decision? Yes, yes. Great. That's a great plan. This was a beautiful virgin thought. And then when they knew it was going to be good there. Like I think it's time to separate. I think that, yeah. Well, that's really forward thinking was. So you seem like you're a mom guy because I'm a mom guy. I'm totally a mom guy. You know, my parents got separated when I was six years old. My mom is everybody says is about their moms. It sort of cliche, but my mom is literally the most kick ass incredible human being I've ever met. She raised three boys who all somehow ended up doing incredibly well for themselves. One of my brothers is a lawyer. My other brother is incredible entrepreneur, and I'm sort of the black sheep of the family really kinda. Yeah, and my brother always tease me because I, I did not do well in the early years of school. Like I, I think it was a first second grader ever to pull straight Fs and yes, an f. in draw. Aside one day and he his line classic line to me was if you don't figure out what you wanna do with your life, you're can end up being the guy who puts Ponente does and olives, and I'm like, I don't think that's the thing. I think they have machines, and let's not job Chaim. Yeah, one trader Joe's by the way. My brother's name is Jeff. How excited are we for Geoffrey Owens that like he's getting offered everything under the sun now he must be right. He is. I read about today and I was like damn straight. It's going to be next season on FOX, just Jeffrey. The Jeffrey show. It's gotta be right? Yes, God bless him. God bless him. He's incredible. And the way he's handled this entire. What I thought was very shameful article shaming article was inspired, and there was a great story that I read about. The fact that before he was told that the article was gonna come out and he called up his son and started crying and just apologize for embarrassing him and his son was basically like, you absolutely could never embarrass me by by doing what you do to support me in the family to just see the other side of that story now into see that. I think he's got like ten episode of Arkham Tyler Perry show and like a a lot of other opportunities. It's really heartening. It's incredible that people come out in are like, you know what? We're gonna lift up your spirits, and you do deserve an an opportunity. So I thought that that was amazing to see teething COFACE like that. One coworker trader, Joseph kind of a hater who's going to be a word. Probably for us, probably like there's probably just a little bit of jealousy. They're like, but it's also like, you know, the American dream if he can do it, I can do it too. Even though like he was a really famous actor and like, should still be. So I think that they were probably a little bit of that. I just imagine his last day. I mean, does he? That's a good question, right? So he must have some shifts on the books. Coming up at TJ says he go back. They apparently told him you, you will always have a job here, which I'm sure is a little self serving too because it's like now the most famous trader Joe's in America. But it's also awesome that like they're a part of the story. They're just fully embracing this man and saying, thank you for everything that you've done, and we understand that there's another chapter in your life. But if you ever want to come back here, our doors are open and thank you for not working at ShopRite, like exactly scrape of, let's say. Is there a part of you? And I think all people, you know, who've had any measure of success. It touches him visceral way of like God, like if any, if my life or my career had some tough turns, I, you know, have to take an hourly job that challenging, I, it's well. This story is our, it's it's a reminder of how fickle our industry is. You know, I remember reading an article when I first started out on Broadway doing a show called twenty fifth annual Putnam county, spelling bee in the New York Times. That was basically Broadway's a great job. If you can afford it was essentially the the principle of the article. And I remember when I, my expectations for what I would be once I got my first big break were very clear in my head, but in reality were very different and living in New York City was like not an option. And so I would get on a public buzz and basically do. Oh my show until about ten o'clock at night, and then have to go an hour way to jersey, stay with a friend on their couch just because I, I really couldn't afford the kind of rent that was needed. And here was a lead on Broadway, and I was actually doing another job at the same time. I was coaching for schools doing speech and debate, and it was really so crazy to me that like there is that sort of thing where you're even when you're at the top and you're pursuing your dreams, do you think that you've you've achieved everything you need you wanted to do? There is a reality to it as well. And so I think we're always one job away from not being relevant and you know, to me, it's all about saving and being smart and knowing that you know, you can never be so elegant to assume that you're. He that won't happen to you that you won't be relevant one day. Yum, and it's scary, but I guess it's it applies to every job. It applies to everybody I, but but yeah, I always pinch myself that, hey, I got to do what I get to do be that I'm paid to do what I wanted to do growing up and also that I haven't screwed up so badly yet to have that taken away from me knowing that I've had a couple of close calls and will continue to. So there's the utmost gratitude to the the universe that I, all of those things are things that that I hoped for prayed for wanted. But also the expectation that doesn't always last forever. When you say close calls, you mean like you've said something that was misinterpreted or just career space, careers, things. I, I really have. I've had, I think like anybody has you know choices that I've made that have paid off greatly choices that I've made that I regret those. Yeah, you what? What a lot of people don't understand is we never go into a project thinking, Ooh, I can't wait to make something horrible or that we have such great with such great hopes for it all, and and that's the thing is like you go in eyes wide open because you believe in something you believe that it's a really funny you believe to it could be artistically worthy of your time were see you think that you're signing onto something that is bulletproof. That just feels like a hit right? And then it doesn't. And then it just doesn't work for whatever reason. And a lot of times you know, people are like, why would they choose to be a part of that? It's a seem so clear. In what people don't realize is wasn't clear when when you got the offer when you got the script there were there were driving forces there that led to a very different path than weird. Peace ended up. It's a weird alchemy and like lightning in a bottle when something actually is great. Yeah, and it's not only critically claimed, but then also successful like monetarily. And you're so right, because I always say this, like, you know, it used to be more of a thing when when they shot on film, but producers directors will go and watch dailies, and they would watch what you shot the day before it make sure that it looked good and, and even for the worst movies, ever, a producer is never walked at Daly's and gone. We're in fucking trouble. Right? Like they've always like on fucking Geely. I can promise you the producers walked out of that room and went, we got some special. This is been appliqued vehicle. We've been looking for. What's funny is is doing having done. Now, quite a few animated projects. It's so interesting to see how the alchemy of those things works compared to live action because there's a much healthier process whereby they can literally make the movie over and over and over again and tear it apart over and over and over again until they have a product worthy of an audience and in features in live action features. The the problem is really comes down to like scheduling availability, and once that ball is rolling each really hard to stop the train. Yeah. And you know, more recently, there have been some high profile firings and things like that, but none of that is healthy for project either. And so what happens is unless you have a massive budget where you can afford to schedule re-shoots ahead of time, you're sort of in it to win it at that point and it and it does. It does suck, but you're right, like. Everybody goes in with the expectations that what we're doing is great. Yeah, until it's not. And then everybody wants to be like a piece. Adam, I, I can't be a part of this. Do you have any stories? I remember I worked on this little independent movie once in Cape Cod where the fucking it was of course the the life story of the director in God bless her, but she would like cry. Because it was like having post traumatic stress about the events that had happened in her life that we were performing now. And then three weeks in we had two weeks left and it's a night shoot on a Friday night and all of a sudden around ten o'clock night. There's this chatter that's coming over the set and people are going here. Here we're getting shutdown in. We're at a money money tonight and everyone's like, but this movie is so good. It impossible never couldn't. And then about six more hours comes by, there's no second meal. We're getting fucking shut down. And then by like sunrise, you see, like all the producers and the director in a huddle, and then they address the crew. They're like, guys, we've run out of money and we're going to have to shut down production and hopefully we'll finish and we actually did finish in van Nuys, California, and you haven't seen the movie for good. Wow. For good reason. That's no, that particular thing has. Never happened to me. They've been very dysfunctional sets. There's a movie that I will not mention that was one of the worst experiences of my life, and I did it for the wrong reasons. I did it for a paycheck and it was pretty early on in my career and which happens which happened to pay the bills. Exactly. I love that your co workers now googling what I've done. Passively have regretted much and so like you're you're sort of at the whim and mercy of a lot of fickleness. And why was it not? We don't have to get into detail, but why was it bad? Was the it was it was an impossible situation the the, the person overseeing the film, not the director was UNB unhealthily volatile the end very hands on in a in a way that was not beneficial to the process. The director was first time director on was, I think, probably a little in overs had and wanting to please studio, and the movie itself just wasn't very good the, you know. And I think that a lot of those elements who just really coalesce into something that was untenable and, but that that is also one of the great lessons and experiences, and I wouldn't trade it in for the world and. I actually had a lot of fun in the process and I love the people I met during it, but it was one of those lessons that's an important lesson to learn, which is, why are you doing this? And it actually was fundamentally the reason I ended up doing book of Mormon which changed my life because I realized that that moment is this what you wanna do you wanna stew to settle and take a job to take a paycheck and take a job to, you know, be in a movie or do you wanna do something that elevates you and elevates your craft and in of itself is worthy of attention and is worthy of potential sacrifices, including financial sacrifices. And the answer after that was a resounding yes. But prior to that, I sort of had this ambition of I wanna be a rich actor in Nissan, I wanna be movie star, and a lot of people were like, why are you going to do a show. Oh, that isn't yet fully financed is sort of like really potentially a lightning rod in terms of controversy. And it was because I was like, I, I needed that I needed the therapy that came from throwing myself into a situation that was so uncertain and that you believed and that I believe unto mentally. Hello. 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I was immediately on the phone with my agent saying, I can't do this in my agent was like, well, it's Trey Parker, Matt stone, of course you can I go? No, I can't. And they said why. And I go because I'll be shot probably if I do this right on the street on the street and I like pleaded for them and they're like, no, you come out, do this. And then I went and I did the first reading of it and I white knuckled it during that song and fucking trae amount. We're onto something because I just started seeing shoulders shaking, and then this sound coming out of people's mouths that was just pure unadulterated, holy shit. Laughter and I never looked back. And that was a three year process. I was three year journey from the first from the first workshop we ever did I reading to the Broadway debut. Will you take us through? And when I say us, I mean me and the listeners. Yes, take it because I think that's your mom basically is what we're talking about right now, maybe nice if you said a little something to her. If you know she's listening, listen, hi, MRs pattern. This is the other, Josh, not groping fair. I learned the hard way today not to send you my west side story. Fish. But I hope all is well see that Russia Sean dinner. So nice two days away. So don't you make promises? He can't keep. So what does that look like? Because I I, I interviewed Wayne Brady a few weeks ago and he was telling me about, you know, because he was so close with Lin Manuel and sort of the process of putting Hamilton on its feet, even though he wasn't the original bird. What does that look like over those three years? What are the touchstone to that process where you're seeing sort of a Volvo and become the phenomena signing fascinating? What people don't really know is that book of Mormon when it was first pitched to me and we did the very first reading they weren't. They were leaning towards it being animated movie. First of all, it was not meant for the stage. And in fact, the very first reading we did there was there were these projected sketches of like antibiotics of what they were thinking of, and it was fascinating and then the incredib-. Producer Scott Rudin was in the audience and he had produced south park movie t- merica with the biggest dog in the master. Yeah. And he, he approached them after and he spoke to their incredible producer anger pheno who produces south park, and he said to her, this has to be this has to be a state show, and I think she agreed and the two of them along with trae amount and Bobby Lopez who wrote the music, then sort of shifted their attention to will, what would that look like? And so the course of the next three years we would drop in New York for about two weeks stents two or three weeks, and we would put it up on its feet foreign audience. And the very first reading we ever did. It was literally one act and there was no chorus to man up as just literally ended up with the act ended with me going man. And that was, and I was like the end of the show. And so like they were trying to figure out, okay, what's the story wanna tell and the second workshop, we didn't get the second act until the day before we performed for an audience, and I kept joking. Are you going to give us a second act? Like as we're going on stage and they basically did. And so from there, this structure of the piece really started to come together. And then for the next two years, we really what was happening. What was apparent was that Cunningham was overpowering the story and not in a great way, but the the comedy of the character was so brash and so in your face. And so. It was too funny for its own good in some ways. The way they had written him that the price was enabled to really shine through and we, it was the final workshop. They brought me in to read with a couple of different guys and this young guy who I hadn't heard of Andrew rannells walks in, and he reads with me and it was the first time in my journey with the show that I had ever ship my pants because I was like, oh, God, I'm, I'm going to have to work now, right? And it was game it up my game and it was. So that's when the show clicked. That's when it really came to life. And and you know, I believe was written late into the process. But once that song was written, the show really just sort it made sense that the theme finally came together and when was that moment that definitive? Like was it improve. Views or because like with Hamilton, they talk about like that last public feeder performance? Yeah, they were like, Yup, this is. When did it were your like I first preview very first preview. I remember there was an article that had come out written by Michael Riedel right now, and it was basically talking about how they were going to be protests on the street when the show opened and the show was going to close fairly quickly. And essentially it was going to be a big story for all the wrong reasons because of the controversy that it was gonna cause. And so that I bought into that, I was like shit, and I'm going to start looking for my next job now and at first preview happened and the audience was electric. And then it was actually the next day when I got back to the theater, I saw a mob of people waiting outside the theater and I was like, what's this about? Yeah. And I walk in and I'm like, why are there like four hundred people outside the theatre. They said, well, they're here for lottery tickets. I said what he goes well, we're, we're selling out pretty quickly now and then I got back the next day and there were a thousand people outside. Oh, she and then all of a sudden it became in the blink of an eye, an event and it just hit us so quickly. And from there just became a title like there was no stopping this thing that up until that point. Really the only other example of that was producers until of course Hamilton. Yeah. So it was like this, you know this once in a decade sort of thing that just transcends every expectation for, you know, as an event, you have wicked, you have producers, you have Hamilton, if book of Mormon, those are very special moments in the history of theater where you just it was so unexpected for us and or at least for me. And when it happened, there was no turning back. And how long does that stick where you, because we're all working towards that moment of like where it all comes together and has this like beautiful fusion, how long do you live in that? And then when is it just become like men. Eight shows a week is a lot of months. Yeah, six months in I realized it was a job a year in. I realized that it was work and a year and a half, and I realized that it was time. Yeah, and that's when I was like, you know what? I'm doing a disservice to the audience by staying in the show because I can. And the only reason I stayed past a year was because Andrew was staying the cast was still pretty much all intact and I didn't want to be the first guy to leave and I sort of wanted to leave alongside Andrew. I thought that that was the right journey, but I probably should have left because I was bitter the last six months or five months. Was like a God. I can't do this anymore. And are you maintaining like, are you protecting your voice? Every was it. I mean my my, my amazing vocal teacher at the time. She said to me. The hardest job about doing a Broadway show is staying healthy and well enough to do it. And I sort of took it for granted and I was getting so beat up. I was I was constantly getting sick. I would get sinus infections. The weather, having a newborn baby. Good luck, Josh, thank you. Get ready. Having basically occupying a theater that was moldy and dusty and old. Those things are not really conducive to good health. And so it took a toll and on top of that, you know having to go literally work on my voice every day to have a voice to do the show was its own exercise in, you know, it was just, it was. It was all it was all not to say it wasn't worth it, and the end justified the means, but it was hard. It was hard, six months. Indeed, I'd start fucking with each other. Within the show just to keep it exciting one day in one day. Oh, man, like that was part of it is I literally I couldn't leave in part because I was having too much fun on the stage doing my own show that wasn't being seen by the audience and that was fun and that cast and I to this day, have a brotherhood and sisterhood. That is, I can't imagine it ever being topped in terms of, you know, relationships that developed from from a communal creative experience. And so it was so fun. Oh yeah. It was so fun and we would just constantly set out to make each other laugh. Did you ever hear over the years? Have you heard have like, Mormons come up to been like, that's not really how it goes like, have you ever talked face to face with the Mormon about the depiction? Do you know what's funny is. I've never been like a costed by Mormon, but I've actually opposite has happened to me where people have come up to me who said to me, I saw your show and it made me convert to the Mormon church. Wow. And I was like, I think you may have missed them. But I was. She was like, great, but at the same time they did get the message. I mean, the message really is it's a, it's kind of very pro faith show. That's the irony of the show. Yeah, is like even though it sets it out as like, it's crazy that we believe in the things that we believe sometimes believing in of itself is worthy of the endeavour. Right? Like that idea of, I believe that gives you or a lot of us what we need in order to deliver on that message and a great way. And I think the spirituality is part of part of that is what's made this show connect now for close to a decade? Is it just people leave with this uplifting message even though the journey to get their crazy bugged out, it's bugged out, but it is. And by the way, Mormon church is brilliant. Gently brilliantly exploited the opportunity that was our show. Oh, there's a giant page in a her program promoting the LDS mainly. Oh yes. Since the beginning ladder, this brilliant. Like it's brilliant book. Yes, genius. There was a book of Scientology. There's no way that they, they would be. Now they take themselves too. Part of the reason that I think trae met knew that the only religion that they could do this with, even though it's an expose on religion itself and not just Mormons is because the Mormons are so unbelievably generous, they're so unbelievably kind, and so unbelievably passionate, but also joyful in many ways. And so it really, they were able to laugh at it. I didn't get in a really wonderful way. Do you think? So I have a story and I'm not sure if it's true. So please strike it down if it isn't, I heard and I don't know if it was with the original cast or with one of the touring castle book of Mormon that Matt and Trey came. And you know, usually, you know, Lin Manuel after he left Hamilton probably didn't go to see a lot of the performances because you know these people become very busy and that they went to go see a performance of book of Mormon. And you know it had gone into this rhythm. As anything does where people start adding the little little bit a little OMB f- to jokes to things their own interpretation of it because I've done it now eight shows a week for months on and and I heard that Matt and Trey were so specific that they sat the cast down and said, stop it, like whatever this little extras, things you're doing. It's getting a laugh is taking away like you getting the laugh at beat to your fucking up, the payoff, it beat ten. I think I've heard that so that did not happen with our cast, but I'm surprised that didn't because we were definitely towards the end in looney land, but it was. I, it's a product of one overstaying. You're welcome in keeping it fresh to. It's a game of telephone. By the time you get to the tenth cast, you know, most of them haven't even seen the original cast, so they're sort of doing copying copying. It's like the ten photograph of something. And so I understand that and I actually think it's incredible that Trey and Matt and Casey, the director are all still so invested in the in the process that they even have the time it. You should not have given me this liquidity because all I'm doing this burping. It's very Jewish thing. Yeah, we're, we're gase folk. Oh God. I'm just like every other word. The dollar, loving it. Good. Yeah, we're hearing it on Twitter now. This is streaming by no. See must getting interviewed by toll Rogan. Well, yeah. Last night, somebody tweeted an so funny that it's leave it to Ilan must to come up with the most creative way to have a midlife crisis. Yep. Public midlife crisis. I love you. Alon mosque. I really, really, really am like bummed out how much tesla, any lawn are being attacked on daily basis because I can't episodes enough that the work he's doing is so important. I think not only from a business standpoint, but just like he's one of the only people who's trying to finance, really make it feasible to save the earth. And I think that like everybody shitting on that is problematic. I know he's not particularly helping us 'cause though, and and it sucks. 'cause like we need the lawn Musk's of the world. We need the guys who aren't just thinking. Coal, we need the guys who are like, let's stop living in the past and deal with the future, which is we have a really dangerous thing happening to the environment right now, and we need to fight it. And by the way, there's a way to make money off that. Yeah, so kinda sucks. And I heard today, like the CFO left and it's a mess. I don't like first of all. He didn't even hail the weed which I take issue with. Right? Because it was a shitty puff best. There's like a dad. He's just learning how to smoke. Yeah, I thought it was very like odd. And also I feel like that was like a moment where he should have been like congratulated for just making Joe Rogan, feel comfortable. I agree. I don't. That's the thing is like, I don't have a problem with him smoking weed and doing that. And like I thought it was actually really fun. And the fact that it's legal here means that it's perfectly fine for him to do. So I didn't really take issue with it. I think the thing that is happening is it's it's playing on a bigger theme of every week. He Lon Musk's in the news for the wrong ensure that like people are like what's going on over there, but but we've seen it in our business. It's funny. I was talking to Dan Fogelman yesterday, and you know, I was talking about the leap from brilliant creator executive producer writer to show runner. It's very different job. You're going from being a pure artists to a manager of humans and inevitably on TV show with one hundred plus crew. It's managing an army in specific. Weekly for him. Like I feel like it's rare that someone who's that brilliant in good at the engineering and design aspects can then go run a billion dollar public company without some sort of blemish on the record. So I'm not. He's just not the guy to do that. Like I'm like, let him coming. Please put him in a lab with all the fruit roll up that he needs. Yeah, I think you're right. I think that there's because by all accounts, Tesla's still being run like a startup company like the actual day to day of it, and I do think that he needs to just be the Enervate or and allow somebody else to do the day to day study Sheryl Sandberg. Yeah, because clearly it's taking a toll on him and like we need, we, you know, we need him healthy. We need him. I remember like Arianna Huffington wrote that tweet, which was basically we need you to stay healthy. Yeah, for like humanity and and I agree with that sentiment like get the support because you're genius. You are. Legend like you are Steve Jobs in carnet right now, we need that innovation. So I really hope it it all works out. Now I feel like obviously you spent time in the daily show and then your show sixteen hundred Penn like you've always had an affinity for government and politics and what have you. So how involved are you in? How do you walk that line? Because I feel like your vocal at times and then not, what does it, what does that look like for you? Especially in current times, look, I think to each their own. I think that these are unprecedented times that we're in my grandparents having lived through one of the darkest periods in history in nineteen forties, Germany, nineteen thirties, and forties. Germany have taught me lessons that are very valuable to me about what it means to live in a culture that. Starts to look at others and point fingers at them. What it lives looks to live in a society that is is looking for scapegoats that is turning towards a thorough Teheran ISM or. Or nationalism in some cases, indefinitely populism and also potentially fascism. And I think that when you have those toxic ingredients in the air, I think it's incumbent on anybody with a voice to stand up and I certainly can't look at my daughter's ten years from now and say, I did nothing if shit goes south. And so you know, I do. I use my voice. You use my platform sometimes to great at great cost. Gee, you know, I Don. I don't like I don't like putting myself out there in a way that makes me vulnerable to confrontation. I'm not looking for confrontation and it's unavoidable unavoidable. I'm looking for reason I'm looking for discourse. Discourses is slowly and quickly at the same time coming to an end. And you know, when we're no longer debating policy, but we're debating whether or not any of this is normal. That's a problem when we're debating science without being experts in science. That's a problem. Social media's won a wonderful tool, but it's also made all of us armchair experts myself included. I think that that's dangerous paradigm. I think that were fact is dying because we are dealing with these tools that make everything available to us at lightning speed, giving us the ability to comment on it with the same authority that were receiving it. And I think that that. Those things make it so that I feel like I have no choice, but to do my part and that isn't limited to just the, you know, tweeting a couple of times a week. It's going out and doing the work. It's making sure that I'm doing my part to not only financially support those that I think are going to be the check and balance that our constitution calls for. But also, you know, joining the millions and millions of others who are saying, something's not right here and standing up and making sure that our voices are heard. And I think you're so right to with in addition to these phones, it curates and delivers information that only pertains to what we want to see or would that we've told the AI that we are partial to. So people only getting this sort of slew of one sided information from whatever you know, new source or blog or a, you know, alarmist. Sort of aggregate of information that they that that sort of coincides with their beliefs. And I remember being very shocked when on election night in two thousand sixteen, I had this great photo of me and Hillary Clinton and Wilmer Valderrama you wanna talk about a trifecta. A power trio from months before it, a fundraiser for her, and I try to be I'm I'm not overly political on social media by any means, but I, if felt I it was incoming on me to post something. So I posted this photo and I basically just said. Whatever you believe in. I think we can all agree that will move out Rama's very handsome man hashtag on with her and my audience on social media tends to be under twenty eight majority female, but young and it looked like a it looked like a Fox News meet up my comment section, like lock her up, fuck this unfiled load. Usually six. This is not the screams of dinosaurs at sixteen year olds, and I was so like I was a, like if they're saying, yeah, like it's, it's it's become, it's become toxic. And I think that unfortunately, there's a lot of tribalism happening right now. I think that unfortunately, there's a lot of echo chamber stuff happening right now. And I think that it's it's incredibly successful what the current administration. And it's advocates are doing because they are muddying the waters in such a way that it's becoming impossible to actually know what the hell is is really happening anymore and to all of the people out there who who just no slogans, but don't actually read beyond headlines. None of this is normal for those of us who have lived long enough to see history play out over the course of multiple decades. This is unprecedented. This is not the way things are supposed to be going. And regardless of your political or social beliefs, there's a method to the madness and when the inmates start to run the asylum, that's when democracy fails. And that's when the Republic has its lights turned out on it. And that happens fairly quickly once it's in motion, and that's not to scare people at students, fire people to do. The one thing that it's gonna take. Take to change that which is to just hold the people in power countable, and that's up to each of us who have the ability to vote, which means all of us. And I think that you know it sometimes people say not to go in a political tirade here because nobody wants to hear that for me, but they do, but not not to say that it's, you know. A lot of people seem to think that their vote doesn't matter. And I think as we're seeing right now elections matter, because when you don't vote, you are creating an environment by which your an alien -able rights can be taken away from you whether that has to do with the woman's body or whether that has to do with your right to clean air. Those are things that we should all sort of have, and there's a very real chance that those things are going to start to be stripped away. And so before that can happen, I would say, take thirty minutes out of your day on November six and Cohen vote. Wow. Yo, what's up guys? We got another ad for you. It's very exciting. These things happen. I know, right, great. Let's get into it. Did you know that one of the most important things we do for our health everyday is brushing our teeth yet. Most of us don't do it properly and I know what you're thinking. You're like, Josh, what are you talking about? 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Although he thought it was a show with you and the Canadian singer, Drake, and he was like, this is sounds like a great show. If this is you pitching me a spin off, I'm in. Yeah, yeah, Aubrey, Drake. Let's do it. I would actually, I would. I would pay good money to see that by the way. Oh, man. Well, anything to grassy related. I'm in obviously. So you've worked wave some incredible people. What do you look for in a director? What's your what? What he? Yeah. What is the thing that you're most interested in as an actor when you're sort of sussing out the relationship with the director? You know, I think these days it's looking for challenge not only for myself, but away to challenge my audience away to sort of keep them on their toes. I think that you know, I'm always looking for an opportunity to to do something I haven't done before to showcase something. I haven't show case before to challenge myself to do something that terrifies me. So it projects like murder on the Orient Express or Marshall, you know, there's an element of that that is me wanting to play outside my proverbial wheelhouse, but is doing something like murder on the orient. Express where you, that's a lot of star power. Yes, surrounded by. Are you comfortable in that energy or you just like, let me just do my job. Not humiliate myself and get the fuck out. Man. I I'm I'm inspired by like it's it's a masterclass. Yeah, you learn so much by being surrounded by people who are infinitely better than you at what they do, and that's how you get better. And so like rather than work with people who make you feel safe and make you feel comfortable, I think it's really important to be terrified occasionally to feel like, oh God, what am I doing here? I don't belong here. And that was definitely one of those experiences where whether I'm acting opposite Kenneth Branagh Judy, then Dame Judi Dench or Johnny, Johnny Depp Michelle Pfeiffer. Whoever's in that cast, it was like, okay, you better come to play ball does I was listening to Bradley Whitford interview the other day and he's like three things go through. My mind immediately when a director has note for me and it's fuck you, I suck. Okay. What. That's incredible. Beyond accurate? Yes. I think that that's would genius way of thinking about it. And just as an aside as a fan, boy, it's just Johnny Depp. Cool. Like he just seems he's resting cool. So unbelievably cool. I mean, like I grew up and I know he's had. You know the the, the issues along the way with public perception in things that have happened in its, it sucks. But my experience with him was wonderful. I, you know, it was limited, but does he eat? He does, and and yeah, and and he was just so giving as an artist. And again, I can just speak to him as a scene partner, but I really loved working with him in every way, shape or form. And and you know, growing up such a fan boy, whether it was advertised their hands or in particular at wood, which I think is one of the great performances. Oh, man, he's ever given if not the greatest. I just really admire his journey and going from basically being like there's a time that a lot of younger people don't remember before he was Jack Sparrow that he was literally just an arthouse guy and like doing really crazy. Cool work. That was, yeah. So unbelievably char. Charged and brilliant, Jim Jarmusch the ad van was the one of those one. Yes. And I kind of remember what? So what's your? It's a two part question of what's your process when you're approaching role and sort of how did you cultivate that process or your method? The way into a character. So there's two process processes. External and internal, and it just depends on the roll in part of that is a bitch. A-all part of that is is sort of internal and a part of that is educating its I went for years to Carnegie Mellon, University studied at National Institute of dramatic arts in in Australia. So it's taking those skills that I literally, you know, spent time and a lot of money on to learn and utilizing the pieces from each of them that apply to any given role. So for instance, something like Olaf is gonna come from a very sort of external playful place. I am not going to sit there in in sort of marked my beats and do my thing. I'm gonna play a mimic splendid discover. So when the directors I said to me, they gave me sort of adjectives to describe the character. This. Naive, innocent childlike. And when I sort of took a second to explore those things, suddenly this kind of smile came on my face, and I started to talk a little bit different, and it was sort of like, wow, the wonderment of the world, oh my God, and it sort of became like this. Why do I child with something like Marshall, for instance, it's much more methodical, it's much more internal and it's much more about dissecting sort of the entire story. The back story in really creating a journey for this guy that doesn't exist on the page that exists off the page as well. So it just depends on the role and you had a place yet where like there are, I feel I interviewed Vincent enough Rio and I still got to his incredible unreal. And he kind of said not in a. Nebraska Doshi sway. He just said, I do. I know what is required as far as the work goes for part. And as long as I've accomplished that there really are no bad days. Not like if I've done my work, what I'm required to do to get in, he's like for better or for worse. I know that it will be either good or pretty good or great in Italy lives somewhere around there. And so have you gotten to that spot where like you're not driving home, wringing your hands going if they fucking put take four in the movie, I'm going to die. No, I wish I had Vincent enough. Ios. Healthy ego. I really always questioned my work. I find it impossibly difficult to watch myself on screen, right? I find it very, very hard to leave work at the end of the day and not question if something I could have done could have been better. There wasn't a day out of the more than three hundred sixty five days that I performed book of Mormon that I didn't question whether or not I could have gotten a laugh in a certain place I didn't, or it could have been made something of a moment. I didn't it to me. It's what makes me constantly strive to be better and in a way that that's a necessary and healthy attitude for me to have. So I'm always insecure. I'm always questioning whether or not I'm good enough. Yeah, we'll welcome. Is that just Judaism? It may be may just be Josh thing we call Hartnett yeah, and the others. Let's see what hearts is dealing with. Yeah, Josh Hartnett. What's that? Like being him? It's probably awesome. I think it's penny dreadful. Yeah. Well, done. Thank you. Well, done sir. Any bad audition stories all giving giving it one of my first. I mean, one of my most important auditions ever was my number one choice for schools was to go to Juilliard and heard of it at yes. And one of their number one choices was from not to go to Juilliard what? Yeah. And I, I actually just posted my rejection letter from them which I found after visited home, but I go there and they have do all sorts of weird stuff like be an animal, but then make the animal into a man. And I'm like, that's part of the idea that was part of the dishes. Lock off. Yeah. And like the animal had to be in a bathtub at one point and I'm like, show me where the bathtub isn't like, no, you gotta pretend to be in a bathtub in Mike. When will this ever be useful in anything. That I. Will I have a scene where I'm faking a bath tub. They're like, he doesn't get it. He just doesn't get at Juilliard material. Yes, he doesn't belong here. So I get in an IOT to monologues prepared my mic contemporary and my classical, and I do my contemporary which was mardi by Patty tchaykovsky and I am certain that I killed it. I was like, yes. Be that, and they all looked at me and said, okay, and do you have anything else? And I was like, well, yeah, because you told me to prepare to things. So I do. And just like the deflation of just no response was probably like part of the like, that's what they probably do with everybody. Can SNL audition? Yeah. They like like they're just told, we're not going to respond see how they react, but I was not prepared for that. So I start my Shakespeare which was from Henry six and I do the first two lines and I literally completely blank on the rest of it. So instead of stopping, I decide in front of a man named Michael, Connor runs a program who also runs the. DC William Shakespeare festival. I think it was a DC Shakespeare festival. He started improving Shakespeare, the front of him greatest writing. I'm just thinking, maybe I can get away with it. Maybe I can figure out rhyme scheme. I am, but pentameter. Like the only person who could feasibly have gotten away with that was Lin Manuel Miranda and like I'm not Lin Manuel Miranda skill. We get just like a taste like a single sentence. No, because I probably will cry. Yeah, fourth, I, yeah, it was just like putting like really, really, really big words together, hither, hither there to four. Yikes. Quattro. Different languages. Ios soy necessarily to- build Bon yo or five or doing seventh grade span is just doesn't feel like Shakespeare. I don't think Shakespeare did. He Spanish mix. So it was a disaster. I've also had auditions where I again was like, nailed it. There was one in particular where I was. It was one of my first big audition and I was doing spelling be my first big show. And this small movie called avatar was happening and I didn't audition on tape. James Cameron responded to it and flew me to LA to come to light storm to personally read with him well and fill me. And so I get there and he's got this massive camera this, like I maxed out camera for an audition, trying to prove James was wow, do your gym. He's gone. And so I start doing, I still remember the dialogue. It was. I was supposed to play Sam worthington's best friend, and he was like a navy interpreter in. So I had to study with the guy who created the Klingon language and it was over with audio, hang gay. He now me took CV like it was this was the dialogue, beautiful, and so still nail it in. So I am doing this in in it and I'm feeling great. And Jim looks at me and he goes, this is this is exactly what I'm looking before. This is amazing. This is terrific. And when you actually do it, you're going to be amazing because you come from theater, you're so imaginative and so much what you have to do. You have to picture you have to see. So I leave and I'm like, I got this role. I'm an avatar. I'm an avatar, and I got a call from agents saying, they loved you. It's between you and this other guy. And I'm like, who's the other guy. I looked up and he was tall and lanky and completely different. And I get a call. About a week later and they say to me, so they're going to go with the other guy and I was like, damn it. And then it occurred to me as I was sitting there thinking about it. And then subsequently when I saw the film that James Cameron took my addition and put it in like the the computer that makes everybody into an avatar and was like, I can't have a fat Smurfit in my movie legless full literally. This will be disastrous. No, I've convinced. And so I told the story on Jimmy Fallon, and I got a call one day for my agent who told me that the Kasim director heard it and basically was laughing saying that that's exactly. Really? Yes. It was just like, oh, wow, he makes a really uncomfortable looking Nabi none niche Stanage would not be accepted. I would. I would sue them body shame. Yup. How dare I know you deserve, Josh, Jim. So you do gym. He's call me. I'm still available for the sequels. I know you're doing about four more. I'm in Sam, I but dammit. Didn't feel fair. Actually. You should be my body double for them. I'll just do the voice. Perfect. Josh and Josh together again, the dream first of all? Yeah. Okay. So last two questions, family. You have kids. I have one on the way and everything that people say is all the things that it's cracked up to me. Give me the good. It is everything. All the cliches are true for, let's get that out of the way. Yeah, the first three to six months are a fucking nightmare, and nobody can prepare you for it. Like the sleep deprivation that you will endure a so unbelievably unfair and painful, and it's good that like you can't physically have another baby for another nine months at the very least because it allows you to forget how awful the experience was those first few months. But it is worth the pain and torture because at on the other side of it, there really is nothing that I value more in my life than my two daughters. I. They are my everything. They give me such joy that makes my heart explode when I get home when I see them when they wake up there kisses their love that all probably change. There will come a point when both of my girls become teenagers and they despise me and I'm not looking forward to that and I'm sort of bracing myself for. But right now the greatest thing in the world. But here's the good part at that age data be powerful, big Hollywood guy, and you can be like, listen girls. If you wanna meet Shawn, Mendez be nice, told dad, maybe I'll pull a favor, get Sean performing your birthday Charente form, although they'll be like who Shawn Mendez at that point because it'll be listening to whoever the younger Shawn Mendez is twenty five deals like Sean Benda's will be like Bono for that. It'll be really weird right here. Like he'll just like go into that. Like Evelyn of like older older heartthrob. Yeah, he's unfairly, talented, you fairly. You know what? I'm. Did you combat this when your wife was pregnant with your first? And I'm dealing with this now where all have friends who have kids and they're all give me this look all haw urine for your in for it. Yeah, I wanna be like, fuck you don't scare me and be a want to say. I'm like, if you can do it, I can do it. Your knucklehead work a UPS like no shame on UPS, but I'm like, trust me, I can fuck and do this. It's look. It is. It's hard for sure it. It's not easy, but it also there's a reason that. It just keeps happening over and over again in history that we keep having babies because you fall into it the first day that I remember putting my child in a car seat. I literally thought that I was going to be the thing that killed her, like I was so terrified of like not doing this right or not doing that right. Or you know, you have to wrap them like a burrito swat. Oh yeah, you have to swallow them and, oh, you've, you've done the classes, you've done the word I'm learning. I never liked. What do you or when you do this CPS the CPR class and you're like, you're so terrified that you're gonna kill this little plastic baby that they give you. And so like you want the the instructor to come and just watch your hands and nobody else's to make sure you do it like five times and record yourself on an iphone as if like if something's actually happening, you're going to be like, wait right there. Baby. Let me open my iphone and take a look at the video revenue saving the plastic baby. So like you go through all of that. My sister. Actually looked at my phone the other day, and she started laughing that I had poison control on my favorites, but I would recommend to every parent put poison control your favorite? Yes, because there was a day that my baby put something in her mouth and I almost had a heart attack being a hypochondriac, and like just googling poison control takes time. Sure. So you're like know, like it's I've been nine one one or poison control ready to go. I want the cops come and take my baby. I need poison control. So you know, it's all those little things. But at the end of the day, you fall into really quick. Well, I'm excited. Okay. Final question. This is something new that I've sort of doing with every guests on the show. I will not take off my clothes. All right. When we can talk about that off Mike, but what are the two or three or one or five, Josh Gad commandments that things that are truths for you, that you would want to give someone that you would want to impress upon people, things that you found to be incredibly important for yourself. This agree questions, Amblin movies should be the foundation of everybody's cinematic journey solid, okay. That includes back to the future that includes Indiana Jones. That also includes Amblin esque movies like. Ghostbusters, but that would be the the first step. When you're when you're starting your film journey, start with those number four, I guess, would be to. Really, really, really be true to yourself and by being true to yourself, it means no, your own self worth and don't take shit from people that are trying to for their own through their own insecurities make you feel less than and that that comes in handy, especially in a field like ours where you have to constantly deal with rejection. Right? So it's about understanding what you're worth and making sure that you you constantly keep that true north on your compass on your moral compass. Number three, I think for me would be to understand your priorities in life and to make sure that the choices that you make are also staying true to what's most important to you at that time. And and a lot of times for all of us, I don't think it's it's true just for what we do. I think it's true in any profession. There's a balance that Americans in. Regular seem to have a hard time with when it comes to committing so much as we do to work, and it's about balancing those moments with your family, especially if you have kids. 'cause damn witnessing. They grow up fast. And so knowing that what that balance is worth. Two, I think would be to understand that you share this world with others. And a lot of times specially with the advent of the this sort of new informational age technological, the technology feat that we've experienced. We're always looking down instead of up. We're constantly in our own world. Remember Patrick Wilson coming to speak to us at Carnegie Mellon. This was back when I was in college and he said, you know, when I'm in New York City, I noticed that that nobody ever looks up at all the beauty around them. They're always looking down in an ornery or angry mood, and it really opened up my eyes to something that has proven truly valuable, which is there's always somebody around you. I make it I, I make it a necessity in my life to just hold the door open for somebody no matter who that. Ersan is in the hope that they will do the same for the next person. And a lot of times it's easy to forget that. And then the number one thing that I would say he is. Have values stand for something our time years. So limited that if it's just really about making money or it's about your own personal sort of journey. You have to ask yourself what you're leaving behind, not only for yourself, but what you're leaving behind as yourself. What is your legacy? What is that thing that you want people to remember you for an make everyday count by virtue of that know that there's specially living through history, which we are all doing right now, which seems like a burden. But in some cases, I think is is a great honour. We get to be the difference makers. We got to do the things that are going to potentially move the needle potentially change the world as a communal experience. So I would say that that is probably might migrate est a paradigm for myself migrates rule. And those are the five hundred. Six I guess for Josh mic drop Josh Gad. God bless you. Thank you. Why bless you? God bless us and shame on your mother. Once again, thanks a lot Barbara. I'm not calling your mom and he listened Barbara baps bats. Having sat here has our with son. There's nobody else who can play Maria, and I'll tell you right. So right now that I'm gonna call Steven Spielberg and tell him that Josh pack is his Maria. Thank you so much. I just mudder Josh named. Well, how about that? Enjoy drink that end podcast listeners. Your fucking welcome. Thank you. Do. Thank you vets. That was it. That's Josh Gad. You just listen to it. Guys have an incredible week, take care of yourself and others. I believe in you. I'm proud of you fucked. There s you know what I mean? The shitty committee arrests for a second. 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The Walking Dead | Season 10, Episode 9 Recap: Squeeze

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The Walking Dead | Season 10, Episode 9 Recap: Squeeze

"The walking dead season ten episode nine squeeze Mamane Squeeze is over but we are just getting started year on post show recaps returning to the world of the dead here on the walking dead podcast. I'm Josh wailer. Joined here by Jessica Jeopardy doing that dynamite. Didn't you watch lost? You're not supposed to touch the dynamite. I was. I was screaming at these people. Didn't you learn from ours? Did arced die for nothing. It feels like Jerry did. It feels like Jerry is like. Hey so I watched lost. I don't know if you remember what? Tv is it was the thing before all of this episode with the Guy Blew Up. And we don't want to pull up so maybe put the dynamite back. I think I think that might be the reason that magma is so angry all the time is she still angry at the final season of lost. Did they make it that far? I feel like the one benefit that these people have is like. They didn't have to deal with the lost finale discourse I think like the apocalypse probably happen before lost ended or pretty damn close least. Yeah Hot Take Jerry is definitely the Hurley of the walking dead yet or Hurley. Almost left the building early this week as I was listening to our most recent walking dead. Podcast jess all the way back in the salad days of November twenty nineteen as we were putting the walking dead first half of season ten to bed and I didn't listen to the podcast listening to bits and pieces and there was one part where we were both like. We're going to remember what was going on the walking dead when we come back to talk at some point but the other thing was like you and I were talking about okay. So they have a lot of main characters trapped in this cave sequence. Are we really going to lose any of them like? I'm not feeling that concern. I don't think anything's going to happen. And then you said something to the effect of Cool Josh. So you just killed Jerry like Jerry. Daca DIE OH I probably did kill Jerry. Jerry dies we right. We nearly had to riot jess. We almost had a riot on our hands. This I was I was. That was the point where. I was yelling at the screen. Wigley manifested this times. Because seriously is a cat. He'd be on life eight by now. Yeah Yeah Jerry. The Guy who's six two six two DUDE WITH TROUBLE FITTING INTO AIRPLANE. Bathrooms manages to survive by the skin of his sith. Year in squeeze and action oriented episode of the walking dead. Assuming you could see it. No that that's a lot of the joke is I couldn't see anything. It was so dark and it's not that it's unfair criticism. We're saying this a lot about TV right now. People WanNa make very dark. Tv At the moment well. I thought dark was a metaphorical term. Why are they taking everything so? Gd Literally I know existentialism dark would be fine. Can I see what's happening please? Could you make that easier for research? You know that my vision is going as it is. Yeah I mean we're not we're not young anymore. They might be able to pull this when lost was happening and we were back in our twenties but this is not going to fly. I had to turn off all the lights in the apartment and watch it in pitch black darkness said. I'm still not sure I caught everything. Get The walking dead. Maybe watched this episode twice. Then I could make sure that. I saw everything that I needed to see. How Dare You? Don't you know we're in peak TV? We're on like post peak. Tv. We don't even know what to call this yet where we are right now. The Great Akiva. Winokur said to me off line earlier today. So how dare you? Walking dead forced me to watch you twice but of course just you and I. We've been big fans of what Angela King and her team are here on the walking dead. How did you feel about the return of season ten? Did you feel like we've picked up right where we left off or is the question? Better framed as you remember where we were. You remember where we were. We had to do what we were supposed to pick up because that was the point of conversation for us at the end of last. Season's like I'm having a great time but I feel like they left us in a place. Where like the stakes feel a little bit like hollow right now? Not that terribly worried. So I'm not going to be thinking about this for a single day until the show comes back so it was basically the case for me. It was but then. I think I think they did a really great job of anticipating that. That's where we were going to be with it. And so they gave us this episode. Where not a whole ton of things happen? They weren't just throwing events at US every three minutes and expecting us to remember what was going on. We just had kind of two big stories and those two big stories involved big characters. They involved people. We remembered doing things that we could be easily reminded of. I think we could confidently going into this episode. We could have taken a quiz and gotten the question of where was Nigga N- and also what was the last thing Carol did. What else happened as a result of that I think we could've confidently said I remember going off with the whisperers and I remember Carol going crazy and running into a cave and a bunch of people running after you don't have to name which people they are it's okay but everyone getting stuck right and then everyone is in the cave. I think could have pulled that and then you think we could've named everybody. That was stuck in Mikhail. God no I don't even think I could name them right now. We WanNA cuisine on that okay. So there are seven people trapped in the Cave. So if you can do it okay we got. Caroline Daryl Magna and Kelly. Connie yeah we got Jerry. Yeah there are seven. Yeah who's Lucky Numbers Levin? Because there's one more guy not Josh Hartnett. It's Oh God. Do you need a phone a friend? I know I'm pull it. I'm GONNA pull it okay Hint it's a person who's killed zombies before that's everybody forgettable over the crew. Erin. Is there as well? You're right. There's like one moment where Aaron is holding the lantern and he kind of looks like an old prospector. I had I had written down in my notes the middle aged prospector young right but I I took notes on this episode. Errand did literally errands. They're put on and that was like the one thing he did. Aaron was like was he was like the anchor guy for all of wake the various hijinks that they went off to do he was the last guy to like before they started like frogging their way across the stalagmites to get away from the walkers start at the episode which. I have in a big bold capital letters in my notes. They leapfrogged across stalagmites that that was how they got out of the situation. Yeah he was. He was on support duty but he didn't have much of a story line. This et Josh. If you can reach forward in space and time you will feel a great disturbance gust of violent wind and it is. It is three hundred people that listen to this. Podcast typing furiously in the I tunes reviews. I can't believe she couldn't name all seven people that were in the cave. Who gave this person a podcast? Why aren't you firing her immediately? I was very nervous. That you're going to save is going to be three hundred. People typing furiously it stalactites. Not Slang. Right. I looked this up. I thought I got it right now. Josh Stalactites hang tight to the ceiling. That's right that's right so that might do what's the. How do you remember the other ones after through the cave stuff slot tighter as flag there? But they're like flat top to still lag MITES. They're like trim down so you could actually like land on them to a certain. The whispers have been cultivating the space for a long time. And I feel like they kind of set up. These goonies traps I can't really disappointed that there were more like Willie traps baked into the to the cave situation. That wasn't a little more elaborate. I mean I thought it was pretty impressive for what it was. I mean. We're not talking about seventeenth century. Pirates here I think if only I yeah I think they did pretty well with what they have like their one big weapon. They don't have you know impromptu guillotine that are triggered with a wire that somehow stays in place for three hundred years earlier the Oregon that you play if you play the wrong note you fall through the floor into like some nebulous abyss. Oh my God. That's my favorite scene in that movie. But what were they going to fall into? Nothingness Lake is like what was happening. At least see. This is the difference like this might be where the cave has the edge. Because you know what you're falling into the K. Right right yeah. And there's that one moment where they were like they were just like it was like a video game where Wycliffe made so much like a platform. Like you've made so much progress in the level and you've gotten really high up in the level and then like you take one false step and you fall right down to the very start the level and you have to do all of that all over again except in this version you just get eaten by a herd of walkers one hundred percent. There were huge chunks of this episode. That felt like I was just watching. Someone play a video game which or like with action figures to be fair. That is how I spent a lot of my childhood sugar and the the days before twitch when it wasn't necessarily a thing people did but all the same it really did feel like okay. Here's the level with the with the stalactites stalagmites. Sorry Yup Yup. And here's the level. The lack twitter is coming after you now as well. Our in trouble with the case is true. Then then comes the puzzle. Level which looked like Dracula's coffin solitaire. Game or like you have to if to navigate around all the corners and get your way out and then you've got the one where you have to get your whole Party out before the whole thing caves in and you got a time limit. It's it's really. It's like level after level of puzzle fighting capabilities. Well let's let's go through the level by level stuff the desert at the end of this is obviously we're going to talk about what happened with Alpha and Deacon but we could be patient. Let's be patient you know. The show was patient with us. Got A lot of cave stuff to talk about. I used skip towards the end. The podcast and we'll be talking all Alpha Nigga all the time. I'm sure well I think just like Alpha and Nagin. I think you will find that the pleasure will be increased if you delay gratification. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Also keep your masks on everybody. Keep your masks on for this. Part of the cast are natural skin. Don't be afraid of it. So the episode begins with a Cold Open. Which is just carrel screaming at Alpha. Basically this the cold open this week which I thought was a fairly apt metaphor for the entire Carol Story of the episode. I think so. And there's a lot of controversy around Carol. I know I know I have like. I was very annoyed with her by the end of the episode. And it's not that I can't see where she's coming from because obviously she has been through a lot and she certainly should not be faulted for having an adverse reaction to seeing her son's head. On a pike forgivable if she's not going to get over that like let alone quickly or get over that. That's that's that's the indelible trauma right. Nobody's asking Carol to get traumatized accent. I feel your feelings process your grief. But Oh my God she dom such a dumb thing to do. Also you're claustrophobic. It seems like that's just one more dumb reason but one more thing they should be keeping you far away from going into a cave. Why are you going into a cave? You're claustrophobic it is dumb. It is clearly a trap and the fact that she endangered everybody else like no wonder everybody's mad at her and I feel them to wake in in a way like the whole carol storyline. This week is like a glorified Zombie Apocalypse. Version of the gillies sketch or Carro. Yeah care all that. She's always like saying like all right. I won't do it. I won't do the thing anymore. And then she goes and grabs the dynamite toddler. I understand it you know. She's just like not. She's not listening to any reason right now for for you the way that Carol was acting throughout this episode. Not The way that Melissa McBride is acting but the way the Carol as a character is behaving within the world of the walking dead is it consistent with Carol is like like. Is it aggravating. But it's consistent with the story or do you think is just outright aggravating and not really consistent with Carol. It's funny I literally have as my one of my questions. I wanted to discuss in this. Podcast is is this consistent with Carol. That is literally I worded it. Because we've gone through versions of this before over over. Yeah loses a kid. She loses her mind. She loses the group and she comes back. That's it that's happened at least three times that I can think of. Yeah I think it's like there's constantly like a hit job on the character like every other season herself. Maybe everybody sees it and a half we go through this cycle of Carroll is the best character on the show and then she becomes like in the eyes of many like the worst character on the show or at least somebody who is causing a lot of the problems that are happening at the heart of the show and like in a way that feels like a little bit improbable and I think one of the the way the ways that this can be satisfy satisfying in a little different. This time is it like seems like even like Darryl is kind of over her her staff by the end of the episode like as far as Daryl's concerned like Carol is potentially responsible for Connie's death if we if we believe that that has happened so at least there may be some consequences for but this is not my favorite version of how the show handles Carol. And we've been down this road before and you would think that like they know that this does not. It's not like compute well with people don't like caroline this mode. Yeah they definitely they just make it harder for themselves whenever they have carol do something bad. And then if you WANNA keep her on the show and not have everybody hating not just her. But you the show creators you have to redeem her and it's getting harder and harder to redeem her after she keeps pulling the same stuff over and over but. I think I was doing a lot of thinking about this actually and I think part of the problem that we have with Carol is that. The show gives such inconsistent. Wait to character deaths And sometimes we see this massive outpouring of grief for somebody who died and it fuels this huge character. Arc and people are galvanized they. It really cuts the viewers too. And then other times you have character die and you get like a shot of them getting buried or it pushes the plot forward a little bit and one person is sad and then three days later. It's like you never mentioned that person again. And I think the problem is you're giving these beats of having to process this intense visceral grief. You're giving these two carol over and over and over and almost nobody else gets them and so she gets driven out of her mind with grief and everybody else's like over there died. Okay I think another piece to that is that like people didn't really like Henry is a character that's the character that she's really grieving and it's appropriate. Because that's her son but like we kind of didn't really care the crab like you know. It's hard to like kind of like match your level of trauma to to Carol's I guess. Well Barbara cusack talked through. Let's talk about leapfrogging across stalagmites. Jasper because I would not have been anywhere within the vicinity of like my third Bingo Card Burr. How the gang was going to get out of this. One by leapfrogging across stalagmites. This was this was a very weird tone to begin the main action of the episode for me. It's like the gangs like all right. Here's the way out. We just like hop across these stalagmites and get to the other side of the cave. He really did feel like video game logic. It was so super. Mario like the only thing missing in the. Yeah Yeah and there were no stakes attached to this because you do ten minutes into the episode. You'RE NOT GONNA kill somebody off so it's like what is the point of this leaping from rock to rock business because they literally no tension in it whatsoever. Everybody's GonNa make it across phase one. It's not told level three that you feel like you might actually lose somebody. Eso they're leapfrogging across stalagmite. It's this is the order in which they go. I wrote this down. Tell me if you think that this was the right order to send everybody out on. Darryl is the first leap frogger followed by Carol followed by mcnutt followed by Jerry followed by Connie followed by Kelly with Aaron. Who you almost forgot was even in the cave as the closers Brett closer. Do you think that was the right to send everybody out in? Or if you're in charge Juve would you've done it differently? I think you have to have people that are pretty skilled and the front and the back like my years of tour guiding have taught me that if you're working in pairs with somebody. One of the guides goes in the front and one of the guides goes in the back that you make sure everybody makes it across. And you don't want you. WanNa have your people in the middle that you're not quite sure about like Kelly has a sore ankle for instance which I completely one hundred percent did not remember from last year but they help you remember falling over the place. He's like Alma Ankle and like oh she must have heard it lasts still really good killing people you know even with the busted ankle impressive. Yeah I mean I think you get that way. You don't survive ten years in the in the Dombi apocalypse without being able to off zombies on a sprained ankle totally. This is nothing. She's probably been through much so she's at the very back but then the person behind her is the one handed man see like the right person to anchor the crew Aaron. Well I thought she'd both hands for balance. If you want to be in the back spot I it seems to be that Aaron has adapted to this pretty well and it's almost like he has to spicy hand dig it into the side of the stalag I mean. Is He wearing spiky at this point or I saw him putting spiky hand on later in the truth he might have grappling Hook Hand for all we know again video game like he's like in a temple in Zelda? Yeah one hundred percent. He opened your bag of holding. You pull out your grappling hook hand. Yeah this is the grappling hook. Yeah I was surprised that ever found the map or compass. A deeper. They went into the cave. They make it to the other side. Darrell makes torch out of a Zombie and this was not something that I caught on the I watch through. This was something I caught on the second. Watch through Aaron like chops off or Gary Office Zombie. I caught this. I thought it was really out of the box thinking because again great genius in the Zombie Apocalypse. What is the one unlimited Resource Zombie? Parts? I'll be parts so make those those guys work for you. I can't believe there. I still can't believe they don't have a treadmill hooked up running a generator item a piece of meat in front of a bunch of zombies because they're basically perpetual motion machines and they're also an unlimited fuel source. It's just new meaning to the word hand torch as like literally a hand torch. Yeah sure it smelled great to God is. The smell is probably not helping the situation especially for Carol who's CLAUSTROPHOBIC. I thought this was a good call back to season three when she was trapped in the prison never thought that Carol was dead and she was like in a cell for several days. We've talked about this. A lot on the PODCASTS. At the show has a long memory at this point. It's got a deep history internally that it can pull from even if only a few people are still alive from those days but every once in a while. It's it's always fun. Monroe way back. Referencing this kind of stuff. Yeah I I love that and I think somebody had registered that. She had actually literally mentioned. She was claustrophobic in one episode episode in season one. Yeah and the fact that they've kept that in the Bible and kept it around just in case they needed it but honestly after watching this scene. I think I'm CLAUSTROPHOBIC. Yeah Yeah Jess. Once upon a time I in my capacity as a reporter for Parade magazine I went to Mexico City and went to the site known as Tayo take him on a on a set visit to observe filming for the first leg of the amazing race and I got to perform one of the one of the roadblocks. And it was the one where you go into a cave running around finding like pieces of masking an excavation site you have to like duck in and out of all these like low ceilings and through all these crevasses in the cavernous walls and you have to assemble the mask and it was like the worst half hour of my life that felt like eight hundred hours and I was very triggered by watching the the caves shenanigans here like brought me back to that moment. Which was like the pinnacle of a lifelong like? I've had significant CLAUSTROPHOBIA. Dreams my entire life like persistent. I'm what going through a tunnel and the tunnel is closing in and I can't go forward and I can't go backwards kind of dreams. This was kind of a nightmare episode of television for me on that level. And I gotta be honest. I don't really have a problem with find spaces most of the time but this year for a show that is purportedly a horror series in which people are dying horrible violent deaths all the time and that calls upon your deepest insecurities and like gangs. Your loved ones out from under you and Greeley tries to spark fear every episode. This is the only episode I've ever seen where I had this. Like ole body cringe. They visceral reaction to a scene like I physically felt that scene with all of them crawling through that tiny space and it was deeply upsetting ours off especially like as a bigger body guy. Like I mean I. I don't I'm not like a huge guy but like I wouldn't fit easily in those spaces. I really felt for Jerry. I like Josh Hewitt at least take your gear off. I think I wouldn't have gear to begin with. I flew first of all. I wouldn't be alive. This deep into the clips. You know. I'm dead a decade for sure for sure but if I lived by some miracle long enough to get trapped in the cave you're gone and what an awful way to go really really awful way to go. I honestly I think I died on the stalagmites. Don't I definitely did not leapfrog across the still lag bite? So no chance Daryl and Carol have stop and chat where Daryl's based quick. Hey why like I know. I'm sorry and you know and it's like yeah I get that but stop we got ta dramas me from a staff stash like all right. I'll STAP L. you're right. It's like come on. People are getting sick. You're right you're right. This Dubuque gotTA swear this. I swear five minutes later on air chant. Ever GonNa go renegade again. Don't put care on the corner. She's going to what she wants to put her in the corner. She's going to have a panic attack. Stroup for Carol. God I really relate. It's horrible awful stuff. Then the whisperers show up and I'm still kind of confused as to how the whispers there there are. Entrances exits to this cave Josh. There were like temple guards from legends of the Hidden Temple. Just like popping out of nowhere to snag the silver snakes. Maybe they live down there. Does that mean Olmec is down there too. I'm sure shrine of the silver monkey. It'd be Great Olmec. In the world of the walking dead would be pretty easy. This is my fourth podcast at the day yet josh compared to that final level on legends of the Hidden Temple. Nothing anybody did. This episode comes close to being battered. Nobody ever won anything on that show. No no wait. What was the best thing he space camp right like? You're always fighting for space camp. Yeah there were space camp and they were like college savings bonds. Space Camp would have been cool. I always always envied anyone who got to go. Yeah I know anybody that got to go. I didn't know anyone personally. I envied them through my television man. You got to go to space camp but I bet him. Probably sucked yeah. I bet. The foods sucked at bet. They gave you like astronaut. Ice Cream Hachette. Ice Cream was like cool in theory and like you never wanted to be the person who said this doesn't taste so good. Yeah 'cause he wanted to be cool because everyone was like night ice cream and so good. You never want to one who likes steps. It's actually not but if you if you had stepped up to say that you probably would ultimately find that. Almost everybody agreed. Yeah I'm saying I'm saying I should put up a poll astronaut ice cream or not. The options are legs or hot dogs. Yeah we'll see what comes of that as the whispers attack That kill the whispers and then they see that there are road signs carved into the cave. There's literally an Arrow indicates and that's definitely not a trap. No we don't go this way very very obvious. Booby-trap BOOBY-TRAP JACKO go and they follow it deeper and deeper. They're going the more and more careless freaking out and here. She is my girl. Connie stepping in and giving carol the reassurance. She's tracing the words you are okay. The letters you are okay into Carol's hand. I Love Connie God if they've done anything to Connie me so mad at you and Darryl both I know I thought this was great. Lauren radloff is so good. What a great addition to the cast of the walking dead. I'm just with maybe the possible exception of Baghdad herself the whole Magna Gang I was I was kind of on them. And then they show up in the series and I like them all. They're all great. I can tell which one is which they all have personalities and it feels like they breathe new life into the show. Yeah Yeah No. Some of them are really some of them are better than others but Connie is a real winner for me. I think based on what might happen here magna could really pop as well see at and Kelly's been survivor. The past couple of episodes. She's been through a lot so the fact that she was able to get out of the cave. I'm impressed. Here's the order for how they decide to go through the lemon squeeze like this is like the the next phase of their miles traveled. Yes okay so here. Here's the order in which they go as best as I was able to gather it. I think that this is right. So Daryl goes first then Magna then Kelly that I believe it's Connie or maybe it's carol but Connie and caroline some order come next then it's Aaron and then Jerry is bringing it up in the back Six foot two dude with trouble fitting into airplane bathrooms. How do you feel about the order of operations on this one? Okay we did. Have some people tweeting us this because they had some questions about this but I think this was the right call. And here's why most of them are confident. They're going to get through if Jerry goes in and he gets stuck and he can't move forward and he can't move back and they got a whole bunch of zombies coming up behind them. Nobody gets it and it's Jerry's fault and it's Jerry's fault if Jerry brings up the rear everybody else gets out they can help Jerry. You get some leverage to come out the other side if he is stuck and they get the zombies these behind them potentially only eat jerry. If there's nothing that can be done. Yeah but that's that's like an. You can't make that sacrifice I it's you think about these things in Zombie apocalypse. Yeah I think so. They have like that straightforward of a rational conversation about Jerusalem. Good points I think if Jerry had died this episode we definitely would have seen that conversation happen. But since he didn't we probably don't need to have it however there was a moment and I think this is maybe the first real moment where I'm like. Jerry is GONNA die. God We've killed Jerry and they start by his feet and eve. I know I know. Even they get him through this space and he's got like shininess on his foot. I swear he had been bitten on the foot. It looked like his boots gotten. They got got. It looked like a brick. Kelly you're good you're good. They didn't pay it through. It was looking at us like I kind of looked like something got through. Did he just like Taryn on Rockwall? But it didn't blazers very nerve wracking. I really did think that they are just going to hold or Jerry here. Well he almost gets later. Get but possible rings here for Jerry. I thought they were going to have to give his foot the air and treatment. Oh my God the Dale the Comic Book Dale Totally. Yeah I think I could have lived with peg leg Jerry right and put them on a pirate ship. But I'm like blood worth island or whatever the hell is shown is at right now. Yeah I mean every every good pirate needs first mate so they get out of the lemon squeeze after the Jerry struggle which is Berry. I definitely Listening to the PODCAST afterwards. I'm like man. I'm really glad I didn't get Jerry killed here. 'cause Jess was GonNa Viscera me on the PODCAST and rightfully so. My my wig would have been rightfully snatched by you at that point. They find like the Harry. I've reached the top only to find that if they lean far too far they would have fallen down to the basement and Kevin mccallister would be blushing at the trap laid for these people. They're looking out and they're saying only a penitent man shall pass. You chose is leaf. Thankfully nobody falls but they nearly do but nearby. Luckily there's like a mine shaft and there's all this mining equipment lamps pick axes. This is Aaron. Looks like the young prospector coming to HBO CO starring Jude Law. Here for it. And there's dynamite as well and I think it's Kelly who grabs the stick of dynamite. Shake Yo look what I got and Jerry. Hey I watched lost. So don't do that please. Don't do you not remember Dr Arts. It's our I say he's like that. Dynamite is sweatier than I am so maybe it was put that back. But that's that's carols dynamite. Not even Chekhov's Carol is going to do something with a little while but they're all going to pick up equipment. They're gonNA try and break out. Magnus in a hurry and errands like why are you in a hurry just like I don't WanNa be here anymore. It's like yeah I don't WanNa be here anymore either. But why do you not want to be here so then it bad things to Yumiko gotta get out of here at apologize to Hugo? Tvd on whether or not she's going to get out of and apologize to you. Yeah we'll see but josh. Were you disappointed that we didn't get a scene where they all had to like? Get into an old fashioned mining car and ride it on. Tran- yeah I mean. If we're going into the mining direction we may as well like really go through and it would be great if we could do it. Like interactivity work you have to press the left Arrow. The right Arrow is like the televisions prompting. You give us like a fully interactive episode of the walking dead. Do it like telltale episode of the game. If they're gonNA make us watch somebody else playing video game they should. Us play the video. Invite US I know you guys keep the controller to game. But like I wouldn't mind the option make the end of the Oregon trail when you have to put push the wagon down the river. Does that happen every time? No you can pay the toll and go over the bridge like a wimp. But why yeah well? If you tape you saved the money up for it. You know just ensure the victory at that point. I guess you probably by if you haven't put all your money towards the bullets to do the hunting. Then why are you playing the Oregon trail exactly you know what else they were missing the scene? Nobody was wearing helmets with the whispers. Should've had helmet lights on them. Yeah well that would be very strange juxtaposition of them wearing their whisper costumes. And they're all gnarly but they have like very sophisticated headgear on. I think that that would baby blow their cover a little bit. I don't know we. We see walkers walking around all the time with like very bad but if like they've got like operating lights on and stuff like it's like I think you're probably first instance human human over there with your light on. I don't know what you're talking about. I've definitely Walker and definitely did certainly not a human. Yeah I'm I'm sad. There were no train tracks for them to walk through for one of them to get plowed by a ghost train as they were speaking towards a river of slime. Even though there is a bit of hatred coursing through the group throughout this episode. Especially like magnets really come in for Carol and maybe not inappropriately. They don't really have much of a relationship and Carol really did lead them down here and beyond that like if that had already been like sin enough the show decides like are really double down on Carol getting the group in trouble so she steals dynamite go rogue and try to blow up the horde on her own get. I feel like I'm just watching a reenactment of trying to keep my toddler out of the kitchen George Dope in the fridge. No open the fridge. I said don't open the fridge. Don't take the yogurt out. Don't open the fridge. Don't take the yogurt. It's Carol th dynamite. Put down go with the group but with the group no put the dynamite down. It's stressful I thought I was stressed out by the cave and now I'm stressed out by this to my new kitties right now anytime I'm eating there gave you got what you got. Which Got Mike and stop? We just eat suck stop. Stop coming here Kerley. Can't she's Gilly Gilly Carol? Don't take the data. Okay Tara all but you know. She grabs the dynamite and she goes. What do you can't hand carry all tied Your Path. Now they dynamite. Carol now but you do you do and she brings the dynamite and she goes to drop and then she slips and falls and Daryl comes and saves her Indiana let it go. Polls her out. She has Yoshi very sad. She killed my boy and this is why I'm doing this and it's like that's fine but like you keep doing this. Carol You keep getting people almost killed yes. You misplace places. The dynamite the dynamite drops in it blows up in the whole place shake Yup and meanwhile jerry is like holding it up by the I mean I gotta give Credit Coty for going back in after Darryl good. Connie she's great. She's great she goes back into save. People and to Magnus Credit Magda does as well. I don't know that the episode really gave us a big justification for Magna choosing to be a hero. Here I'm glad she did it because it means good on. You could good person but I just didn't feel like the show really necessarily gave us enough of Magnus Story to have her hanging back with Connie with. Connie I felt like it was justified. I just didn't really get it with magnet personally. I was worried about Jerry. I was worried about Connie and I was not worried about anybody else. Yeah well you weren't worried about Erin. Because I forgot. He was not there. He's got the cloak of invisibility on so he's Fide. Kelly because Kelly was already injured. Got Out so fast she was like I side of which like Sia pieces out. I think she's the first one out not the podcast. The PODCAST has been cancelled so I think she's burst up then. I think it's Aaron. Goes next and then. Jerry's Jerry is holding down Daryl and Carol are bringing up the rear. Connie and Magda Goto help them out and then once the four of them are there with Jerry. Daryl little little little rat darryl. He's the he's like all right hop into the front of the line and he hops up first and are we going to give him a pass because he wants to be up there so he can help pull people out. Is that the excuse or Darryl just want to save himself. I assume if those if he just wanted to save himself he would have just run away and kept running this on forrest. Gump it out of there just give you never stopped running his various try to pull people out and then like tiny magner still fighting people and Carol is out and eventually they're like Jerry. Just gotTa go and then more. Dynamite blows up. Magnum Connie are trapped. Everyone's very upset about it and Daryl's China and bury them brick by brick. Kelly's like that's my sister and I'm the one who's saying we have to go right now. We cannot save them. If we're dead. She's not that calm in saying it but she's at least got like the lucidity to be like we can't be here right now. This is not for us. But where are they going to be? They're going to go back to home. Gather the troops in bring like construction vehicles to the site. Okay that's a big breach of territory though. Yeah that's going to be going to be a problem. They're just gonNA come through with like a full on like backhoe and a mule team and Alpha's like this is definitely a violation of our terms for sure. I don't think that that's GONNA fly. I think that's full blown war at that point. If it's not already Alpha didn't want these people to escape and they escaped got imagine she is going to be pretty pissed off assuming she isn't too preoccupied with other matters forgetting they're getting close so close or get God. We're almost there. Oh my God Carol is GonNa say to Derek Carr's Darryl's like jet he's like I'm GonNa go find another way in Ankara. I just your ride about F- like we're trying to save people's lives here. Why do you have to have a sad right now? The Eh but Daryl's having a sad too because he sat about Connie and he's got like the same look on his face like when he saw Merle back and season three the very memorable daryl. Now how no. He's kind of like on the Verge. He's not quite there he's close enough. It's almost like a like a late stage walking dead remix of a rick collapsing. Mix to Carl Carl. No no kind of felt like that. That is iconic. There wasn't like one shot that you could really. You could turn into like a bunch of dad jokes but is good enough you know. It's it's as close as we've gotten in a while are they. Dead Are Connie and Maga- dead or are they still alive right no way no way I think? At least like we're trained enough at this point with the dumpsters of it all that like they don't there may have been a wheelbarrow down there that they hit underneath. They they'd never kill somebody. In the midseason premiere like the closest that this franchise has ever come to killing someone. Midseason premiere is like offing. Travis Manat in episode two of season and there is so much buildup practically screamed in the previous. We'RE GONNA kill somebody in episode two since we didn't get any of that screaming we know everybody's GonNa be fine. Deanna died right. Deanna died at amid season premiere. Yeah but she got a bit well before. That didn't get did she. Was that the mid season finale. I can't remember the kids family and the House with the bite and she's like you guys got to get out of here on the guts. And then they left. Mom Baird out in the mid season premiere so that was like that was a lethal midseason premiere. At least tie recent. Therese's death episode was midseason Premiere. I've done it before. But but they've always done in like queer terms like you know that this person is dead like they're leaving it open enough like Kelly's even saying we can't save them if we're dead. Darryl's like whole Mo right now is like he's going out there to try and find another way in an active story beat on the board right now is a not connie still but how are they going to get out of it and we'll both get out of it and that. I think they might not both make it out but I think that that's an episode. That's an episode. Where Connie Wake sacrifices herself it system Magda live live your life be a good person and then back then. It goes and tries to be a better person. I think that only makes as much sense as anything else but also I think the walking dead has kind of backed itself into a corner when it comes to sapping the tension out of this kind of moment because we know they're not dead because they didn't show up on the talking dead in Memoriam true true he didn't even pretend and it's like I appreciate that. I'm glad I'm glad that they're not just like Yanking us like that. They kind of did cut it. Did with Glenn accurate exactly so. I'm glad that they learned from that to a certain extent. Anyway that was terrible. Don't do it again. Never do that. Again bad walking dead so how long until Darrow in Carol are able to reconcile here these irreconcilable differences or does Darryl just have to save? Connie and then he's going to get over it. What if he doesn't save conney would've Connie truly dies because this I think I think we have to as it goes. I think Connie dies and Darryl shut himself off from the world even more. Because we've had these beat Darryl is out of his Shell and he's one of the group and then somebody dies and he's forced back into his shell like breath specifically that was a moment of a barrel is human again. No He's not and I think I think it's very possible lose Connie next episode and then we have a whole like but the other thing that could happen is I think Connie survives and Darryl feels like he has to come out of his shell more and he has to embrace love. And then we ask. Full-on ship yeah and then Nia now for the only two knockin boots you know. You GotTa Take Your pleasure where you can get at Josh. All right well let's talk about Alpha Nigga knockin boots. We waited this long. Yes it's time it's time to get into it. I guess there's a little bit more build up before we get into it because the reason it happens is Alpha's pissed off the enemy. Cross the border. They knew exactly where to look for the horde we've got spies in the midst so she tells gamma go to the border. Bring a message to the people on the board of tell them they suck. They did a really bad job their jobs so she goes and does that and Megan. Watch her go in the next day while Alpha's using the potty Megan shows up and says hey. I'm pretty sure that that person you were talking to last night outfit said yes. She was in Hocus pocus. I know we don't talk about ashes embarrassed about it. That's not what I was. GonNa say but that is awesome says. I'm pretty sure she's the one who did the thing I think she's probably the one she works. Border Patrol. She works for them. Enemy could have gotten to her. And that's probably what it is in Alpha doesn't like hearing this. She threatens neagh fairly aggressively in in this moment. Very specifically in a way that their Upcoming interactions would have been harder to achieve. Or maybe that's the wrong word to use probably. Here's my question Josh. Why haven't the whispers fashioned any kind of toilet seat for their latrine? Why is it just a huge open pit that you might fall into? Do they feel like toilet? Seats are trapping of the pre apocalypse. World I really feel like aboard with a hole cut in it would -CCOMPLISH alive here. I think so my first instinct was to to say with their animals. That one with the wild. We are the end of the animals. Just go wherever they want it exactly. That's and that's where I went to next because like Alpha's GonNa say it's the latrine is at the edge of camper hygiene not. Well you're so worried about hygiene. Do you want to think about like improving your toilet situation and this would be a horrible place to do your. Do you want cholera? Because that's how you get cholera. That's get cholera. There's a lot of diseases that you have to be concerned with the Zombie Apocalypse. Anyway you don't need to be concerned about cholera on top of everything. I mean kind of hold on board cut a hole. It accord sacred aboard but afford over a whole Kinda. Hone Board and sit on it and do your thing. And if you if you don't want to be fancy you don't have to build a shack around it but yeah if you don't have privacy really isn't a concern okay. Then that's a group communal decision. If you guys all agree on that but you gotta imagine that there are some like major Beta whispers and not the Beta whisperer who are like whispering amongst each other really wish we had like an actual toilet. It's one thing that's Kinda tempting about this Alexandria deal. I bet that they've got a place to sit down and like read a book like take your time. Take a minute I mean what if what if all the Beta whispers like have a secret toilet in the woods secret toilet alliance God Alfavilli furious when she finds out about that stock going to like it at all. She's also furious when Beta comes. Okay so pretty sure. It's gamma and they're like. Oh God yeah makes sense. She's the spy meanwhile Gama's like a spy whatever he could. You mean side I. She's gone though she's she. She never gets the reports from the border she. She didn't even make it to the border. No one knows where gamma is so Alpha has sent Beta off to go find gamma. Bring her back to me. I shall make an example of this is when Alpha takes in for a walk. A NIGGA thinks it's the last walk he'll ever take. There's a certain point where he thinks like. Okay I'M GONNA die naked in front of this scary whisperer and speaking of telling people to do something and I'm not doing it. She tells him to shut up like forty three times and he's just pathologically in again get stopped. He's got a condition. You can't stop blabbing. Yeah just like Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. You can't stop Neekam. Yeah fits in real well? This group of people that whispers yeah is really not a great fit. No I think I think he feels like he must be being taken out to be like served his termination one way or the other. But that's not what happens a ranting and raving. Then when she has him turn around Alpha is almost completely naked. With a very notable exceptions deal judge Alpha. Almost never even wears that stupid thing anymore. She's walking around with Brussel Hands. Bald head time except at this crucial moment. She's like Oh. Let me take off everything except I'll put this on. Yeah Oh my God and Egan's Whoa I'm into it. Yeah I choose skin disturb. You is not at all weirdly the opposite which is a bizarre reaction. I think it hygiene again jess when you. I think it's it's always surprising. Life is a journey of self discovery. Jang Shin Young Right he's learning something new about himself and we are all students in the scheme of life. Yeah I'm just surprised to try other things with look at least like hair up glasses on but they they're they're going to. They're going to do it. She's keeping the mask on. He says some interesting stuff here right. Says this isn't a praying mantis situation? Where you cut off my head after dot dot. She doesn't answer and he says you know I've noticed didn't answer my question is is I reckon. I'll take my chances. She doesn't stop talking. And then they make out a shipping Alpha Neagh or is this just too weird for us. I think I'm shipping it. She definitely I'm not sure she would have been into kissing. Except it's the only way to make him shut up. Yeah Yeah Yeah I do. Think that that Creeped me out a bit making out through the flesh mask. This was a lot for me. It was kind of a lot a lot for me. The and none of these people ever brush their teeth. No this is all of this is really icky act is always going to do but this is just like adding some levels to it. That don't need to be added. I'm sorry this is very this is not Jennifer at all for somebody. Who's so concerned with hygiene? I think she's only concern. With hygiene like yeah. Yeah Yeah Okay. Okay this is. She says to crass reward for crass man I mean she. I think she's a pretty good gift. Giver like I get Alpha and the Secret Santa. I'm confident. She's going to bring me something because she's going to understand what I'm about. She knows she knows you. I mean she sees right into everybody's soul in there in the whispers and I can't fault it I liked it. She was employing the class account. I met your mother. Naked man move. Oh I'm not a big how I met your mother guy. What's what's the naked man. Move the naked man. Move is basically if you're on a date and it's going okay you go up to the apartment and this is really like it doesn't hold up. There's a lot of how I met. Your mother doesn't hold up. This is what I've been led to understand. This is one of those things are like. No this is actually extremely creepy at. But they had an episode where one of the characters Zodda date with this guy and is. She invites him up for coffee even though she doesn't really like him and then she leaves the room and she comes back to the room and he's just naked and it's like well. Alright you're here. Might as well a says. It works two out of three times okay. So that was the first place I went. When Alpha's just standing there in her altogether with the mask nothing but a mask on nothing but a mask and a smile like she's pulling the naked man and indeed it worked did is a soft target for these kinds of things It's been a long time for Nagin. We have not seen immed- he talked a big game with his Harem of wives in socio. Say like Robert Palmer model gear. But he really for all that we never actually saw him sealing the deal with anybody probably crying involved. I guess we'll find out next week. When Ziva post-coital embrace he's got a lot of feelings got a lot going on in ordinance heart. He's a complicated man and nobody understands him but his women but his yeah neagh. Yeah shut shut your mouth. I can't I don't know how I don't know how normally this is the section where I would bring in feedback a bug so backed up today that I wasn't able to collate everything. I didn't see a lot come through on the emails that could be a function of. 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Like season ten season nine season ten I would say above average or they could slightly yep so the main thing that Andrews said which we have covered already was wouldn't the move. Beat have Jerry first or second when they're squeezing through tight spaces and we've covered why that's not case but he does make the point. It would be better if you can't fit before everyone else is already through. But it's like us. He put your smallest person. I and you did. Then you can keep like everybody gets out and you can kind of gauge like how small it really is. And his other point which I think kind of segues nicely into our next section is I wonder if the shot of Alpha and Neagh and hugging each other in the nude was a panel from the comics. Otherwise we didn't really need that. We didn't really need to see it. Well that's good cue to get into the comic book zone because I think other than everything we've talked about so far. I'm good with the discourse from squeeze. Maybe that's why the episodes called. Squeeze Scuz- Alpha nine or squeezing by the end of the episode. Just kind of assumed that everybody was just a fan of nine hundred eighty s new wave music. Yeah I don't know if kids are calling it squeeze in these days anyway. Spring back squeezing a. But unless you have anything else from the episode. We didn't talk about her just like any kind of forward looking stuff. No mish own this week. No Alexandria Shah the person in the cave possible there. She's on the pirate island right. Yeah Virgil she is on the pirate island worth island. Yeah we got like two episodes laughed. I'm her contract. And that's it so savor the flavor whenever we get our next dose of indeed so save speaking of savoring the flavor. Let's go into the Comic Book Zone. All right let's go into the Comic Book Zone. Which is the place. We're going to talk about the walking dead TV series from the perspective of the comic books which means spoilers from the comics are ahead. It's not always a one to one A. The show often really like decisively. Zags where the comic books zagged as needed would say to Alpha. So if you don't care that much I would say I would say stick around otherwise you could save. We leave here and we'll be back next week talking about the next episode of season ten that said conflict zone com a full on what you want to know. Avoid hearing about record shown lash turn to ring the intro law may zone Aright Jess. So I to my recollection. I don't think that the Alpha Nagin thing lasts long enough for them to actually to actually make the make the bond. I don't think they get this far. No I don't think they do either. Josh. I was going to ask you for a fact check on this but if you're pretty sure they didn't. I'm pretty sure they did it. I'm pretty sure what happens. Is Megan impresses Alpha quite a bit basically like the comic book does a version of that lake. Megan impresses the whisperers montage first. Half of the season Alpha takes notice and Alphatec enough notice that the two of them have like a private conversation where they really bare their souls and you get the sense that there could be a thing here that this could be like the king and the Queen are GonNa meet. And they're going to be a crew together in a force to reckon with and then like after Alpha has really bared bared it all emotionally if not literally that's when Neagh and then takes out a knife and slices or throat open and cuts her head off. Brings it back to everyone in Alexandria? That didn't happen this week but what did happen. Was this line about the praying mantis. Like is this going to be like some praying mantis thing where we do it and then you cut my head off afterwards because it's like effectively. What happens in the comics is that lake? They like emotionally do it. In a real bonding moment and then needing cuts her head off so to me. This felt like this was like the wink. And the nod to that. And it makes me feel like Alpha probably is not going to get her head cut off at least not this fashion or at least not for a while. It may still becoming. I have faith that it's going to still come because it's just such a great moment in everybody's waiting for it. It's kind of like maybe we'll get a twist on it kind of like you know they weren't going to not do heads on spikes right right and they just did different heads on spikes but I kind of it's interesting. I figured this was not in the comics for the simple reason. That number one. I don't think Megan spends like anywhere near this amount of time with the spurs initially. And it's kind of like a baby. They would have done it eventually. they get close to each other emotionally and he talks to. Alpha talks about missing her daughter and the other thing is whisperer. Mating habits in the comics are really super eft up and I don't remember what they are. It's a whole. It's a whole plot point that editor thankfully the walking dead judiciously excise most instances of rape from. Toco that happened in the comics. They just don't do them the show they choose not to. I think that's a very smart choice. Yeah one of the main plot points one of the reasons when Lydia rolls up on Alexandra in in the first place and she wants to join the Group. She confides in in the comics. Carl of course it was an ran. The show she confides in Carl that she is being sexually assaulted by various whispers because Alpha believes that their hobby and nature state dictates that they must mate with whoever they want whenever they want. And so it's been happening to her for years and that that she wants to be a part of that anymore and soon as that information comes out. Everybody's like Whoa. Yeah you're right absolutely you can stay here for as long as I right okay. Yeah that's right yes so I think there is less of. There's less of a chance that somebody's going to seduce somebody in the comic world of the whisperers so I don't think you would get a situation where Alpha was like. I just want to like cuddle up on you and give you through my whisperer mask. Still so weird man strange else. Is she going to get him to start talking? I guess I do take the mask off. It's so weird. It's so strange Willing to take it off but he said he was into it. Yeah yes she was like this. Make you nervous. She's being gee-gee. Yeah what does that? What does G. G. O? It's Dan savage talks about. You should always be good giving and game okay. Yeah she is. Yeah he is definitely is triple g which I also believe this guy's grocery games Very different you want to be good and you ought to be given you WANNA YOU WANNA be game shirt. I fear is a good hearted guy literally no doubt. He is not triple D. Another thing that he does and that would have been very adventurous. Here with Alpha and Omega n- he says something here before he turns around in before she makes turn around. He's saying you know you're right. We are different. I made myself into a monster. It's what the world needed. I built something I saved people. My name meant something. He's like breaking down he's emotional and feels like it is very lucky for him and rather unlucky for Alpha that she tells him to stop talking and turnaround because they feel like just he's like on the verge of being like you know what you're a freak and I'm just here to expose it is. I'm secretly still do the Alexandria thing like I feel like. He's this close to blowing a cover. That still is a cover for us as an audience like we still don't know if Megan Scott a alterior motive is being with the whisperers. I think it's been implied but not in an overt way where we couldn't say with authority that that's what's happening but if this is sticking to the comic book script he's GonNa turn on Alpha at some point and may already have decided his mind his whole things like he's going to infiltrate as far as he can into the thing so I took note of that that like he stopped talking so like she really gives him a pass like she really helps them out and this is probably not going to be a good thing for her in the long run. Well Josh this is a this is an interesting question because I really honestly cannot tell if it's because I have read the comics and I know how the comics shape up but when I I read the comics. I honestly thought that Megan was making a legitimate earnest. Try At incorporating himself into the whisperers and taking them over and maybe ruling them and leading them to wreak revenge on the people that imprisoned him for years and years. I literally thought that was what was going on until the moment when he turns on. Alpha and I wonder if the show is doing a good job of making that feel like. It's a plausible situation. I think I think maybe I think maybe because he's just so different from them like he's not even really trying to fit in and it seems like I think we're supposed to believe he's on the good guys side. Yeah Yeah Yeah I think so. It does make me hope that The praying mantis thing is like on the show in the same way that they were doing. Mike Baseball teases head of blend staff. That like maybe they're really just like making us sweat this out and like we'll get like a final battle between Carol and Alpha and Carol like gets to have some sort of victory even if it's like maybe like the victory is like she stops herself from killing Alpha and Alpha Lake runs away and finds news the go knee and we gotta go and then you also have to cut your head off. I'd be happy with that. That's how I think something like that. Anything else from the episode. I think we're a little bit light on things just because there there's no cave in the comics because that would be very difficult to illustrate it. Just like get your black marker out and scribble through the whole panel like maybe have a little pair of is in one corner. The added like magnetic. Connie are not huge characters in the comics. So there's like nothing like this for them. Connie loses a hand in the comics so that could be interesting. Maybe something like that could happen here that could affect her ability to communicate. That could be story that they want to explore. I wonder but who knows who knows all right. Well this is fun. Oh my God. Justice pockets is so much fun to do really thrilled to be back in the walking dead minds with you miser bad with the Cave Ins and everything but I think you and I got one of those little cars on the track. We're rolling ball speed next week. We're doing. Stocker is the name of episode ten of season ten a walker stocker con. Shout out to the to the convention. I'm sure pure fan service. Pure Fan Service all the time. I think the whole episode. It's GonNa take place at a convention would be my bet so we'll talk about that. We'll be back next week. We appreciate your patience as it took a little longer to get this podcast out. This podcast is arriving. As part of a day. Luge of content here on PO. Show recap so we recorded the better call Saul premier recap not terribly long ago so that should be in your feed right now if you've been looking for that to curb your enthusiasm podcast down the hatches coming your way later in the week Jesse. I'm behind on Picard. I've only watched the premiere so far. I know you Mike Bloom or going. Full steam ahead also heard. There's some stuff going to be triggered if I have a huge. I foglia yes. Don't offer the first five minutes of the current episode because which number in the series. It's episode five. Say It's than meets the eye. Oh God okay. Well that could be transformers in which case to be appealed to. It'd be appealing to me to watch that. I'm going to assume that it's not transform. You're you're not going to like it. I I think you have anything at all about is. Don't watch it yeah. Miss me with that I- Bullshit. We'll be back talking walking dead next week and we're GONNA be talking about walking dead for awhile offseason. You and I decided like you know what we missed a lot. We missed all the fear of the walking dead. Oh we didn't do any fear of missing Josh. We didn't do any fear the lock we did a very little amount of fear of the walking dead but when when the season ten of the walking dead wraps up to be mid April and that very same night they are going to premiere the first episode of the Walking Dead World? Beyond which is the new series set in the world of the walking dead which has been billed as a limited series. It's going to be two seasons what. Amc has said about the walking dead world beyond and Jesse masochistic enough to take that on to two seasons at bills like a commitment. We can make so we're going to keep talking about the Zombie stuff. One-season ten ends. We'll go into the world beyond so we're here talking zombies for probably like the next like sixteen weeks seventeen eighteen weeks something like that. I was afraid you were gonNA say seventeen eighteen years than it was. Bosch all me. It's possible I mean hopefully it's more lucrative gig by then otherwise. We really should abandon the cart at a certain point. You have to pay me enough to talk about the walking dead on Bleep Swan dive into the pool of zombies here. The rate is fine for now for sure but like seventeen eighteen years from now of a really good need to be up in the anti but for now this is Super Fun. Just what else you have going on. Outside of our podcast. I've got some feature articles running on Primetime or dot com. 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For more details. Do you remember the first time you heard? Hey jr. Jude or let it be. Now, imagine you're the only person alive that knows those songs or has any idea who the beetles are. That's the world. Mesh Patel's Jack is a part of in yesterday, the new film from Danny Boyle, stick around a little later in the episode. We'll tell you what we think world without the Beatles would look like and check out yesterday. In theaters, do twenty eight. What's up guys and welcome to teatime? This is a weekly pop culture podcast on the ringer podcast network. I'm listening on L. And I'm what am I into date? We are willing to talk about as India's new HBO show. Chris Kratz montecito wedding to Catherine Schwarzenegger. We're gonna have a very, very special guest on to discuss the contenders for song of December. She's got some bad takes as well. I can't wait. Every time you heard about we have two topics, no matter what. Let's go that t. Okay. First category, as always teatime checks in with we're checking in with two very different celebrities. Amelia's start off with the first Josh Hartnett is back, baby. It has been announced who knew that the paramount channel was like trying to become prestige, the having a channel in itself, he's going to be the lead in an upcoming series called paradise lost. So yeah, it's gonna be ten episodes. Oh, Nick Nolte's in it. Barbara hershey. So we've got some nineties people and then Josh Hartnett who's big fan of him. Okay. Random he's from Minnesota. Okay. Okay. And he also went to the high school that I was going to go to, but then didn't go to the ruling very exciting stuff. And then one time he almost went to a movie with me and my friends because my friend's older. Brother was. You guys are basically connected at the heart. This is incredible. These connections. Really think you wonder I know so much about six degrees of Kevin bacon. And he's back. Now, he's back dated skirl. I reaching into the archives because we have not heard from this man since. Because he had like one he had like penny dreadful which was a gel. No one's. I don't think I mean even green, I'm pro Eva green. So I was aware of it, but it was too scary for me anti so I did not watch. And then he had like thirty days of night, which was like based on the graphic novel and he was like a vampire hunter. I get a lot of flack at this place for not knowing anything. That comes before two thousand five I did Google Josh Hartnett because. Contact this guy hasn't been relevant, at least like a decade coming back so market calendars. Okay. And then also I just wanna say that what is going on with. Andrew Garfield is showing up in a rat costume film. I just feel like I think Josh Hartnett is going to take the place of Andrew Garfield. How are, you know, that is a real take scorching hot take? Okay, sir next prison. We're taking with moving quickly on that. Then day who I've decided it's going to be a teatime favorite one hundred percent. Just great very classy, great actress. Yeah. Great fashion came from the Disney channel which we. Throw doesn't. She's a new show on HBO called euphoria. And there've been a lot of articles to speak at how it's just unbelievably explicit is kind of in Herman ringer TV critic hasn't talking about how like she doesn't know who the show is for, because it's on HBO extremely explicit, but it's like fourteen but, like no parent in their right mind would let their teens watch it like people are like, oh, it's like thirteen reasons why on crack a blonde, but I'm like, what thirteen year olds watching those so anyway, skins, like you case. Closer to that. I don't know. It's are all these articles about how the scene in a locker room featuring dozens of high school boys. In what Levinson intended as gender, Ben Omar the famous carry locker room scene. What, what airs is a trimmed down version of the original shot which included like eighty penises I am so happy, you mentioned as I was gonna say myself, and I was really hoping that you touched on that, apparently, she does like the art of the dick pic, like she liked deconstructs that legs and day on the show. Anyway, it's, it's just like a ton of nudity. Apparently, like, really risque content. And I think just like crazy weird to like, Allison's telling me like, there's like a plot part with one direction fan alien fan Fiqh, which I was like all this. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm excited to see what's dad does in like kind of a leading role on this, and I'm crow her in the spotlight million together. Pro her in the spotlight. She's great for many reasons another thing that I just wanna point out. She's really close friends with her assistant, which is always a great sign with a celebrity like friends with and has a good relationship to sign your normal. Good person, obviously, she'll be doing a lot of press post meets, does this thing where they released the receipts of a famous celebrity and do kind of just like a total of what they've ordered, how many cities have ordered from whatever we talked about the Kylie Jenner. Karen, we did the famous Kylie Jenner cured, but suppose mates did this for hurt. And so, here's some quick factory guys because, you know, everyone is really interested in this kind of stuff. Okay, she's ordered from sixteen cities. She's got two hundred forty six orders total great gotten a total of eight hundred thirty three items or just actually a lot. That is a lot of food. They do a lot of them. Record-breaking subsoil. She pulled off ten orders in two days and in, in one day, she ordered in two days. Sorry, I was lucky a lot. And then in one day, she ordered four different times. So at ten AM she got crepes omelettes, and smoothies, I can't believe they're releasing this stuff. I wouldn't never let. Someone go through my post nasal tell the world what I'm buying regardless. She's a better person than we are then couple hours, eighty she got chicken teriyaki one hour later from the same place. You got two more orders, and then she topped off her day in that day with the four orders. Seven PM got a cheesy Gordeeva and not just credits. And is I love it. They noted in the article they were like sedate is vegetarian. Teriyaki was for a family member. I know. Okay, she's getting big summer because Spiderman is out next week's good for her, and she's more star power date someone than really good. I thought she was maybe she's dating. Tom holid- say I agree on a lot, but she knew better grade. All right, next category. This is a weird one. This is this week in social media were starting out with maybe one of our more bizarre pieces of social media news that we've done and that CENA lot. Okay. So what happened? This week was a write in heaven. Nagata screen grabbed a portion of Rana's interview with Sarah Paulson in interview magazine, Sarah Paulson, Astra, bunch of great question. She answered like just these amazing baller responses to, including her love life, and our personal, like I love her professional life. So anyway, so this writer on Twitter like screen shot at a portion of this interview, where she was talking about how she needed to learn how to make time for herself. She puts on her calendar this giant P, which means like she's taking a personal day neutral, these relationships, whatever. So this writer said like took the screen Sean said, every new riana interview makes me grow stronger. We stand work life balance. Queen now. That's totally great. We do stand up. What the weirdest part is our president President Donald Trump liked this tweet. We stand a work life balance, Queen at one in the morning. And for the record he's only liked eight tweets. What in his entire personal account? Now it's back down to seven because obviously someone. The internet had a field day with this, because this is extremely weird of all the things him accidentally like with his gigantic thumbs like this small hands. He was like being in my head when he did thickens your. Oh my God. And then this writer was like, what the hell? Like my own tweet for it was bizarre. Everyone on the internet was extremely confused. Yeah. It's very like covy fee moment. How could we? Not to spend any more time on the man next thing and social media Kate so just Bieber. Good way to start took to Twitter. Always another good way to start. Yeah. And he said, I wanna challenge, Tom Cruise to fight in the octagon. This is just like an EMMY thing, right? Tom, if you don't take this fight your scared wrong, your, and you will never live. It down who is willing to throw on the fight at Dana white so Conor McGregor. Quote tweeted this and said, if Tom Cruise's man enough to accept this challenge McGregor sports. Entertainment will host the bout does crews have the sprouts to fight like he doesn't movies. Stay tuned to find out. This is just absurd. So obviously Humphries fight Justin Bieber. So doesn't where it was like, I was just playing of course. In an interview and scans. He just a random tweet do that. Nope. Knifing. He would probably what my ass in a fight. He's got that dad's strain. Wow. He. Kinda turned into like a social media prompt. You know how people do that. Somebody tweeted and said, Justin bieber's, twenty-five, Tom Cruise's, fifty six challenge in actor thirty one years older than you to a fight. All I this guy says Sam Waterston your punk in your different Ashby, named the place. So sorry quoting this with celebrities who were thirty one years older than themselves. I myself to research fifty five year old celebrities who are thirty one years old, to myself. I don't think I could be any of these people. First of all, Brad Pitt Michelle Obama would have. Yeah. I think I could probably take John stamos. Oh, yeah. You, I would definitely take Roblo. Aim rob. Nncholas cage is also fifty five. Literally, your gain your Abby, regardless of low, Juliet Morris around that ain't beat my ass to. You, you're the same age Justin Bieber C. You could also fight all these so lucky to get our asses being by beautiful celebrity, I agree. I know I was gonna take it that way to actually. And then I didn't I think Tom Cruise, also has the power Scientology underneath his muscles, which is like the mystical. So out for him would get extra destroyed Justin Bieber thought like legitimately thought this was a good idea looked at his own Scott about it was like you know what, not maybe not this up. I'm trying to find someone who sixty and sixty one but obviously he could kick my ass. Sure, sure, he wouldn't kill me or your dad, regardless, okay? Last thing and social media. This is good news is really lovely. I was so happy piece of ti-time news. Taylor swift, and Katy Perry have squashed their beef. They have gone on Instagram to make it official. Katy Perry on this before wasn't there. Like an all of this is racial. Okay. The wife flag is waving Katy Perry Instagram, a plate of really delicious. Looking chocolate chip cookies. Look, extremely, and I don't know why she felt like she did his, but in frosting on the pictures as peace at last feel like saying to do that, Instagram posts. Like a lot, and then she captioned and said, feels good with a little heart out, Taylor. Shift Taylor Shiv come to the bunch of hearts is their friend good over just mail each other like all branches last year. They mail time. Why are we still doing this in the name of female friendships? So happy about it. All right, next category. Moving on is t- times biggest relationship news ever. Amelia's start us off. All right. You know who got married this weekend this past weekend? Chris pratt. And Katherine Schwarzenegger admits it who could miss it. You know Catherine as being the daughter of Maria Shriver and Arnold Schwarzenegger. It so having a dog pot. Past. And then, you know, Chris Pratt for you know he's crisp rap. He's crazy. All that good stuff. All I want to say like I love it. They got married in montecito, which is like in Santa Barbara. It's very nice. It's like Oprah. Liz Ellen lives. So, of course, they got married. That's where Kim got married to Kris Humphries, and they got the noise ordinance member that, no but they get. Okay. Well, it was a big moment, my life. No, but they also they shared Instagram posts in the copy was like exactly this truly who's really it's really weird. It's, it's really like I don't like tacky, Mike. My mom sent this know, my mom said, this man, she was like she looks beautiful weird of him. Dimension the designer. Yeah. Godless, same about of shadow as Giorgio Armani, like it's so blatantly Armani spun con-, we've your Chris, I don't care why they have to do the both identical thing separate students. It's not the heart like change a couple of words around, right? Yeah, right. Your stock com really lackey or just throw the, you know, like a couple of heart emojis, you play in the world under God, that you to have healed and found no perfect, sue by Giorgio, Armani Armani, too, which is. I really love. Just weird. It's just it is weird other weird things in relationship news is gonna Paul tra- told the Sunday Times that she only lives with her husband. Brad filed truck four times a week. And then the other nights the week he's in a separate house. Granted this is to be with his children from a previous marriage or made sense. But like everyone was up in arms because like you guys are newlyweds, so it feels like you'll be all over to other, you want to all the time. They're only married in late September of last year. But how long have they been together like they're a couple years? I think. Yeah, but like, I don't know. And I guess the children makes it complicated. But everyone was like chiming in time magazine for some unknown reason, called in a relationship expert time you'd better things to do. I know everyone weighing in on this and then also just for the record. This relationship expert said that this was a good idea. And you know, distance makes her girl fonder I really miss Liz last week. It was like. Honestly, I get it. I bet they have two big beautiful homes that are like only one and a half miles apart that they just like like flocked to fourth kind. Of sounds ideal. It sounds amazing. I'm into it. What you have other thoughts on this. No, I don't. I bet you have thoughts on this case. This is your favorite person in the news again, this is deana lo Han teatime. Early this really in the archive ES, throw your memories, back to Gina, lo Han and her potentially catfish boyfriend of five years. Turns out his name is Jesse Nadler, and he was a real person which we did report on later. We made sure to follow up third follow up about Dina Lohan and her boyfriend just for the record. They have unfortunately split because Lindsay Lohan decided to stir the pot. She went on the Kyle and Jackie O show and like slam their relationship to smithereens as then just madly said, I could never cause static or friction between a mother and a child, I couldn't live with myself if I did. So he says they're done for good all because Lindsay Lohan didn't approve of that relationship. Wow. Creek guy. I get of him. Yeah. That's true. Surely like he exists. Yeah. Aglietta guys. And also he turned out to be the best man in this, this whole people to pull himself out of that relationship. Good for him, and one more thing, low stakes because they never actually saw each other's. Companionship, the peg Powell? Right. Right. All right. Last thing in relationship isn't really relationship, but it's a professional relationships for another really early on time. I had a whole rant about my pet peeve, being actress who should just stick to be models. Just pretty in, like should stop trying to act, two of my personal favorites in this category. Theo James and Emily radicchio sqi are in a movie together, we just talk about how you spell your actually fun fact just like gave up on spelling her name, and just like pounded the keyboard, however, if you click on this link to the trailer, they spell her name wrong in the official. Are you kidding? Call it Robert account skiing. But here's a description of the movie, it's exactly what you think it is. Okay. I haven't James is a gifted into serving art thief, who wants out a lease MA rod Caskey is an aspiring actress who transgressions in Hollywood haunt her black damn clever. Gifters decide to team up for one last big daring, heist looks terrible. But they're both extremely beautiful. People whose faces I enjoy looking at However, I would just prefer to look at them on the cover of a magazine. Yeah. That's I think Katy Perry did this with timberland in her music video for, if we ever meet again, look it up. I'm not even joking. Keep your. Crystal input. I'm very anti Emily rutkowski flame personal reasons, but this movie is bound to be a disaster. I loved the James actually see urgent have. Right. And she leaves so handsome, like I kind of get like what men feel when they look at. It's true. Just like I don't need to be anything more than what I'm looking at. I know but can the two of them carry a ninety. Absolutely not. Is absolutely absurd quite horses. Again, everything you guys are picturing, it, it's exactly like four different accents. And like thirty seconds Caskey looks lost all of the time. It was like three different wigs. Yeah, that's horrible. Nude probably there's a love scene. We saw her. But in the trailer. You're a little credit. Okay. This next one, this is Kate Hollowell driven investigation every week. I feel like one of us like it our mission to look into something different. This is all Kate. Kate. What are we investigating this? We think it's something I feel really passionate about as of day ago. Okay. So this week Brad Pitt was pictured? He's been pictured. A lot lately. He's circuit once upon a time in Hollywood. He was pictures aiding the arts that too. He was pictured wearing the same outfit multiple days out and page six why mess with success. And so there's like he's just wearing the same thing. However, Kyon I both realized that we just read an interview with Richard Madden, where Richard Madden talks about doing the exact same thing on purpose. To deter the pop rotties. They're not just being like lazy boys. They're not like my dad, where he's like, oh, shirt yesterday I can turn it inside out and where it again. So Richard Madden talked interview about how he purposely wears the same outfit multiple days in a row. That pop can't use pictures of him because it looks like it's all the same day he basically was like you can only see so many times of me going out with the green juice in a denim jacket like an obviously, like part of this was like his room and relationship with Brennan Flints. Again, I'm very invested in. So Brad Pitt obviously was doing the same thing trying unless he just is really lazy. But it seemed like he was doing the same thing. Yeah. So I was like, is this a thing to people just do this? Yeah. And they do mostly male celebrities. Sometimes women most notable cases. Daniel Radcliffe, yahu pioneered this in two thousand seven he was in Equis, which is the player he gets naked, but the horse and he wore the exact same jacket and exact same hat for five months every day after he did this play when he was leaving the theater, so that celebrity earth that property couldn't take pictures. He was like, meaning fans like talking them looked like he was literally wearing the exact thing that every single time he did it for five months. He did it again in twenty thirteen after another play for four months night, he's extremely dedicated to this. So I was like do women ever do this Katy Perry. Oh, attract suit, Armie, hammer tracks. The opposite of this was wearing a tracksuit to make headlines after he didn't get an Oscar throwing credible. Katy Perry did this is wealth indeed as tracksuit. She talked about how shoot the same Dita's tracksuit whenever she left the house in order to make any paparazzi photos, less valuable and Jennifer Aniston this tells you a lot about what met Mel celebrities can get away with females liberties canceled. That's so true. Jennifer Aniston in two thousand eleven wore the same outfit two days in a row. And the headline was forget a change of clothes. Jennifer Aniston has caught an exactly the same outfit after a night out with Justin Theroux that I looked into that article, did, I, I think all of us have been there in various ways one as a person who wears the same rotating three things to work every single day. I get it. And then also this Pacific article was like she hung out with him at night, she went to the apartment came out the next day in the same outfit like it was commentary on how much harsher people are on women when they wear and their looks and all that stuff the machine leave her alone. This is why we kinda came to the. Collusion of I feel like there's three main ways you can deal with 'paparazzi taking pictures of you every time every single day of your life. One is like the prankster way we try to work around it or Sophie Turner, and your Jonas, you this ally where like making funny faces she's got her like jewel out, like whatever. And then there's the way that almost every other celebrity does, which is like you, look miserable. The whole time he just succumb to this. And then third is like people who try to like in vain try to do some good. You know, we were just talking about this before, according, yes. Assign. It's like go to WWW. Honestly, I'm kind of just like you're just trying to make headlines. Andrew Garfield did that the cardboard things where they do something that matters. I was like, okay, you know, this is going to be on every gossip blog ours. Is that really are you just looking for attention? Also love the Leonardo DiCaprio route, where it's like he tries to go incognito. Whereas baseball cap and everywhere. He goes, he's. So obviously Leonardo. Right. With his sunglasses like oh, wow. There's a two year old model next beside you respect. I think she's twenty two now. Please. But yeah, the celebrity pup rats relationship, and like people get really when I was looking in this up people get, like, really like created, like Marilyn Manson roll like that across his face Olsen twins, sort of like a whole line of reflective scarves. We're like if you cover your face with the scarf in a flash goes off, like reflects nightclub at that. And they have they sell like clothes that better like fuck off for like only show up with like flash. I'm like, okay. That's trying really hard. Those are the people who want proud to be following them. So they're like, reflective can go off. I wanna end this investigation. My asking teatime as a whole, like if you were a celebrity of is flying you every single day. What is your method? Which route are you guys going? Are you the angry? Are you the incognita are you the prankster Kate gophers? I think I would probably do like the baseball cap sunglasses, then you would and you're very honest, Kate how well and then they just take photos of, like I would just be like I look bad today. And like hopefully, you can see like only to visit bandaids on. Like so be it like right? Yeah. Okay. That's fair feels on brand do that, mostly. But then, like, switch it up. Do some like pranks it feels like he's the celebrity to plant them. When you like look good at a restaurant. I heard that a Myers. Myers catch at nine thirty on Thursday. And then he should be like. Okay tired, you have thoughts on this? If you are a celebrity, what's, like your Radzi Mohd. I think they'd go the reflective scarf route, I cut it. It to L. It's a little technical data shot. I would try their -flective scarf, except what he's gonna say, wrapped it around their face. I mean, they have it on, and then just like a flashlight reflect lately, face that makes sense. Birthday today is HP. Wow. Okay, next category. This is not worth the thi this is a bad one start off with Milia go first. Okay, so Kylie Jenner teatime favorite? She threw one of her best friends stocky was of doc-, a Handmaid's tale fumed birthday party. Yep. And she posted it on Snapchat, or whatever, and it like literally everything because she is like the number one party planner, she is, she throws very elaborate parties. This was no exception because they were ducked out in the red and the bonnets. There were there was like a walk through thing. That was there's always a walk through. Nightmare fuel. And so people were obviously, like this. You're really tone deaf. Yeah. Like, there are really bad things happening to women that, like Meerer what is going on in the show, which, I mean, yes, she's, you know, and she was recording being like I here. Oh my God. I just love this red color, and she's like, we love the show. Handmaid's tale. Exactly. It's just like come on, now, the other the aspect of this, which is more like a personal. It's like she's wanting this best friendship with Stacey. When Jordan woods is somewhere cried because he's not invited to anything anymore, and she's never gonna get another Cartier bracelet highly for her birthday, and she's got to be sensitive to that. I'm sure during woods is hurting a little bit a Bill. Yes. Specially if they were kind of coming back into being friends, I know champs keeping tabs on that, but there's not enough news to report on it. But trust me. I've got my on the only thing not worth the tea is stop telling a Philipe that her boyfriend looks like her dad Ryan Philipe. She took a leap of faith as we all do, when we post our significant others. For the first time posted a picture of her and her boyfriend. It's really cute. And then hundreds of thousands of people flock Scher Instagram being like, oh my God. That's your dad. Oh my God. Your boyfriend looks like your dad. That's so we're Bubba on that's a weird thought. And like nobody wants to hear. Oh, so she when your dad's like a famous celebrity who like really super hot as well just like either alone. So I mean this guy, it's like blond hair blue eyes. That's literally right? You throw a rock and had someone. Look like that. But just leave as a Filipi alone. Okay. Next thing not worth the T ovoid, so many people sent this to me because they hate me. There is a Timothy. Xiaomei ventriloquist's dummy. That's wearing his harness from the goal, I have strong feelings about the harness. I don't anymore because I press them from my mind. Yeah. This guy named Chris Allen, who makes dummies he made this as a going away gift for his neighbor, he's made six liberty dummies so far. He made this creepy ass ventriloquist of Timothy Alamein. He looks he looks a lot like Jonathan Chaban, Sheba, Thuban food, God. Yeah. Wonder you're selling over that open the link Elizabeth look at it. You have to look at it. So it's horrifying. And it looks like him, but it's horrifying. He does, you know, who also looks like is Dr Simon orient. Goshen. I plus surgeon, everybody. Look him up. He loves exactly like this guy. Stereos people, vampire Patia anyway, to my favorite detail is that the price is one hundred twenty seven hundred ninety five thousand dollars because Tim these helmets birthday is December twenty seventh nineteen ninety-five and this Infos from an interview that hunter Harris did with our favorite. The really just like the Tim these alma. Stan of our time we owe her so much. But yeah, this is just horrifying nightmare fuel, and I will never look the harness the same way. So nothing I'm sure this is also curse news. I feel like I get report on a lot of lowbrow stuff. I apologize. This is for the like three listeners. You keep up with YouTubers and I don't know what we need. Zoe Simmons in here, like a famous equivocal famous youtuber, David Dobric is getting divorced after only one month of marriage. That's like, oh, that's maybe sad that sucks. Okay. Diva Dobric the he married a woman named Lorraine Nash and Lorraine this poor sweet woman is the mother of his best friend, and fellow YouTube star Jason Nash, so David married his best friend's mother so that host. Yeah, just because he has done a lot of speaking out about this. So he he's Korean. He is he tuber. He has last night. It became my best friend stepfather by marrying his mother. So for this offer -tunities, I'll treat you as my own love. You Jason go take out the trash stinking up our living room, then he explained this whole marriage, just for those who want context. I know all of you guys around the edges of your seat. He explained on Twitter. My friend told me I would never find love and get married. So I flew to his mom's house, and married her on his mom on the spot. Now that same friend is my stepson true. Love always ones. The internet was a mistake. I think maybe we should start over like a redo on this whole life as a whole. Another shot this category, in general, like every week, we kind of we should. Yeah. Finally late additions in our. He just Bill, quote came out as anti vacs, joined, Robert F Kennedy jR to lobby against California vaccination Bill. So Jessica Biel's idiot. And now we all know also they're alive on Twitter, who were like the fact that they use the term like she comes out as an anti vaccine, the fact that, like, that's how it's being phrase. Yeah. Like, that's what's like, straight white people have to do is like come out like a giant, NASA hit. It makes me mad, how good her arms like in this picture. And that's I maintain just could Bill. You're in idiot. This looks bad for you. Looks bad for doesn't Timberlake. Also look that it is bad for children March, which is kind of shocking, because she had a she still owns the off, which is like a that children, but it closed and I, but I think it's still throws, like parties for kids either all time. It's the measles is what you're saying. Yeah. But the ground for disease. Stupid. Yeah. Just said, because I don't know if you guys have seen BoJ horsemen she plays a parody of herself. And she and I was like, wow, she's really like this one is as bad as she is in that show. Yeah. Myself one tweet that was hilarious. I would be more scared of this. Jessica Biel has succeeded at anything. Okay. This is exciting times. Our next category is a woman who we all love. She's a fact checker at the ringer dot com. This is her very first podcast appearance, ember thrilling Jordan leggings in the house. You so much for having me, Jordan, you claim that there is no sign of the summer and you have some interesting turnips to present to us, you got four minutes, give or take probably more because we know. I'm to you worse. Start us off. What do you have? Okay. So my music tastes hasn't really changed since I was twelve. You know this summer, we should rewind the clock and go back through some of the old school, bangers, honestly. Yes. So Jonas brothers. I mean just start. Let's start their old Jonas brothers a mixture of both. That's what I'm doing right now. Some playlist. I just watched the documentary last night. Thrilling. Is it okay? We're Kevin leaves the band devastating. Ashley. No. It was really hard to take in. She's a real Jonas brothers. Okay. Kinda Jonas thing is they like recapped it, and it was like Jonas brothers present talking about the pattern, like kicker. K out. Yes. Oh. I'm sorry. It's, it's very sad. It's it was very sad. I, I, I really feel for Kevin. They're coming back now. That's my meat. The mortgage. She's got kids now. We feel bad. Let's give this whole you're talking about throwing in a play like sucker and then like year three thousand. Yeah. Oh, wow. Up yellow Bernard. I'm Bill love bug. Really? Now. That's a really great song, Nick actually read it before my Lee that was in the documentary. Wow. Knicks your favorite. Yes. So like a little Nick solo stuff like mixed in there. Yes, he'll jailers Houston. Good solo song, actually, I did not love good jobs, and that's only like shaved his hair off. And he was like sexy. Teatime thirsty. Okay. What else he thirst? Yeah. Jesse McCartney is one of the best musician generation, I think a mix of both to like beautiful soldiers McCartney and then some new like mix some Lieven. Yeah. The will turn like a couple months ago. And I walked by all these women lined up out and Joe was doing them. Extremely full confession. I went to Jason McCartney. What? In anaheim. It was at house of blues, Anaheim forty dollars it was last year. I support it. That's great. You so happy those like joy wasn't watching. It was so good, because jazz mckearney is a talented man. I've never seen a million, so lit up positive on this entire podcast when your party brings out even Jonas brothers too. She's like, yeah. Do not like to say. Do not like to say. That's like the one thorn in our. Have a firm stance for yes. But yes, just McCartney. All four K also t pain bring him back for the summer winter Massingir B's has already making a comeback in that way. So just put him into your summer playlist with songs like you have one song suggestions from t pain I can't just pick one role in last week. Yeah, I was listening to this is t- pain on Spotify, really like actual Jordan. Listen to all day you're supposed to be. Backcheck into I'm sprung and bartender. Credible. Okay, my God. Okay. Anything else party in the USA by size? Yes. Special place in my heart. Yes, kicked off my Sweet Sixteen birthday party. So, I think it'll kick off your summer parties to say is one of those songs where like if you came up to me, and you're like do like the song, I'd be like, no but. He's having comes on automatically start seeing every single word like what is. What is it should legitimately be the new national anthem? Full claim do you also suggests are in a new Miley with old because that's obviously throwback. And she is releasing new music, or you joined the line. You only want throwback Miley. I'm I draw the line, I'm only like climb. That's, that's probably it. But no new Miley. Books, actually working phase like two times. Being. Forgot about your fingers. Take good. Strong though. So strictly in this timeline window for Miley. Got it and then high school musical two, the whole soundtrack specifically to civically too, because they're on summer vacation. Yeah. You're right. So it's like what time is it? It's summertime. Gotta start to clear high school musical. One is there in school? Saw that movie is what musical too. What he's like working at the golf course. Of course. On a good songs. Great song and greet music video. Oh, yeah. This playlist that you've curated for our listeners for yourself. What kind of sending does have to be played in are you talking like you with some fifteen year olds at a pool? First of all this. Twenty five year old. No, I think I started listening to these on a road trip. Some mindset I can sing all of them, and it just, you know, lifts the spirit while. I see. Corbin bleu his name on Harrow cook. We have to get into that. Yeah. While Corbin bleu. I love him. And he's been my natural hair in spo- since day one curls been also what was that Disney channel? Hey, we're talking about the jump in the movie song. The song shit too. Yeah, it's really. Palmer. This weird has happened. Never had dancing. It's the summer mood. Please stick around for this last category were most unanswerable question, which just as things are puzzling. Most of the time we have a couple this week. We're focusing on, only one question that how has pioneered, but we're all going to chime in so please with your thoughts, just like a confusing. Puzzling lebano. She listens to teatime list, right? She's a lawyer very Louis. Hey this happened when Liz was sick. And I just needed her media and put and I now finally have it comments by celebs, which is an instrument county. Should all follow posted a picture of post by Jimmy Hendrix. It said life is basically avoiding people who have seen you naked while trying to find new people see you naked and Miley Cyrus commented on this and said, you're describing the Oscars Henny, so an ice reading, so many questions, immediately popped into my brain. When I saw this, first of all, my, why are you at the Oscars ever? Right. We know she's been a lot. We're going to get into that. But, like why signal? Is she talking about her own experiences at the Oscars trying to find people to hook up with avoiding people? She has worked with, or is this just a general vibe at the Oscars, like people approach the Oscars like a wedding where like you're going to try to hook up one of the bridesmaid's like there are just it's a broom with a bunch of hot people look at it that people who? Nate it. And just attending who can I hook up with your? I know that had never heard before, so interesting. Real quick. I know you have a Miley Liam line to set the stage for these comments take everything on time. I took this extremely serious. Did some hard hitting research for the room because I was curious. I feel like celebrities. Underrated Lee hook up with so many people that we don't even know about before the step out as. Happens like once in a blue moon. Lot of things going on under ground. So for those who aren't as invested as we all are about Miley. Liam. Took a look back to see her. She could be talking about. Yeah. Okay. June two thousand nine decade ago on the last song. Okay. Then they go on and off for two thousand and ten March two thousand eleven leeann Malia back together, they get engaged in two thousand and twelve okay. They broke up in may two thousand thirteen. This is when she went through like wrecking ball and then working guy and all that stuff favorite faith. Yeah. You don't get back together until January of twenty sixteen which is important, because they're couple of vents that we're going to talk about that, like, certain celebrities were there, which, ultimately, this is all leading me to think that she looked up at Jennifer Lawrence. But I'll get to that. Junior twenty sixteen. They get back together, and then the rest is history. Now they're engaged bubble. Right. But she did date, Patrick Scharzenegger sometime. That was November of twenty fourteen and hadn't been relationship cranked, mice results, damn okay. What was then she hooked up without Victoria's Secret models. Stella Maxwell dated for a while. While I can't imagine that, that was like a very exclusive very rigid relationship. I yeah. Okay. We're focusing on our comment about the Oscars who's in the pool of people. Okay. So the Oscars set of pass by that Miley, has been single are the twenty eleven Oscars the twenty fourteen Oscars and the twenty fifteen Oscars people. He's been so many Oscars. I couldn't even find all the one. I mean obviously trust. Liz to do it. I tried to find all the Oscars this at attendant. And I came up with, like four are not all of them, right? But is this like red carpet? We've we saw her at the red carpet, sitting in a frigging share some of them and other ones. Just the Vanity Fair. Like she thinks are the exactly. And I think that also like, you know, Madonna's Oscars party. Just like. Party bigger deal. And I think that she probably counts those two why wouldn't I agree? And that's why a lot of the musicians go because they aren't really involved in the room, part of true. Okay. So what are your takes on who she could potentially be talking about? Thank you for asking. Okay. Twenty eleven and the only thing is we have to look at the men and the women in the room, sir. Okay. In twenty seven this is Anne Hathaway James Franco host. So put your minds there. I think that she potentially could've fucked up James Franco, who's air for hundred percent right? I choose hosting it was a weird nine every house. He was super high was she then Kate was twenty eleven. She's like what twenty? That's like forty and celebrity. I think potentially James Franco is in the mic totally okay? Just throw it out there. Mark Ruffalo for the kids. Better option, like, Colin. I for the. Twenty seven. Was eighteen so what's. Always been happily married. Big age gap, pans, but come on moving on potentially Jennifer Lawrence. Who's there for winter's bone? She was not nearly as yet. Yes. Beautiful woman walking around that readdress though she didn't you didn't did. Okay. Just going to sit Helena, Bonham Carter. Or at least Steinfeld? Fifteen. You did. But you need to go one or we're having to the twenty four team. Okay. This was hosted by Ellen Degeneres. Okay, different vibe, when the cell, yes Jared Leto one hundred percent. There's a history. She won that night for Dallas. Buyers club himself. Beautiful shop star. Michael fast Benner. No Jonah hill street now. Okay. I don't Jonah hill. I think. I'm putting them in the Jennifer Lawrence was there, again for actress in a SPO so round. Oh sitter. Maybe kindle. Silent. Now. Pricing. So at this Oscars is win. Chris Hemsworth and his wife Elsa accurate over. She was heavily pregnant, what about to say? Don't say he did not cheat. Thing. What would be the brother of I? I know I know I, I don't I was in a corner millions. Okay. Last one that she was single at confirmed is the twenty fifth to nascar's. Okay. This was hosted by Neil, Patrick Harris again, very different vibe main people are there. Eddie red main Steve Krell Bradley Cooper. Okay. J K Simmons, Ethan Hawke, Mark Ruffalo. Are you? Are you just assuming that she's? Has her eyes on the prize. She is not gonna go for a seat filler. She's gonna go for a nominee. Okay. Okay. If J K Simmons was there one. No, I'm not saying to wait miles teller. Yeah. Whip last. Oh. Oh, that's one. That's a really good one. Pretty in the women in the room were Jillian, more Marin county. I love the. Me you have to you have to. And then your nightly an MS Joni also put a little star next to Merrill, was there. But that's like a. This is an incredible Romero. What I'm saying is she has maybe enlist conspiracy corner hooked up with Jennifer Lawrence. Mario coach yard Carter. And Jared Leto would tomorrow. That's got. Well, I think we answered that question. Okay. You guys it's been another amazing episode of ti-time. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. And. Fire? This episode is brought to you by the movie yesterday in theaters June twenty eighth yesterday from Danny Boyle and Universal Studios imagines a world or only one person remembers the existence of the Beatles the movie stars James, at cheering Kate, McKinnon, and newcomer Hamesh Patel. When the trailer, I dropped we, the ringer had a lot of questions about what would happen to the world as we know it without the Beatles. Many of which were still thinking about in the movie, the protagonist Jack pretends, at the Beatles songs are his own since no one else, remembers them. So today and partnership with universal we wanted to discuss one thing in particular, if you could claim a Beatles song, as your own teatime, which would it be I put a lot of thought into this beforehand? I was gonna say, come together because I thought it would in twenty nineteen it would be like having a magic dragon style like sound trailers the Monday night football like up song ever. However, we live in a post old town road world. No song has mean potential can go farther than that good song. Yellow submarine. Good. Thank you. Viral name hit in twenty nine also good idea, because the world trade nineteen is all about spun Khan and partnerships carnival cruises coming. Seaworld is gonna everyone wants a piece of the extremely, I'm assuming. It was made for spun one. She. Well, I really like really boring. But here comes the sun. Ooh. That song so much and I would love to be like, yeah, I wrote it. That's a classic. If you like Casey must graves could. Oh my God. Casey must. Wow. You're Casey if you're listening. I know you're not. But if you are please, I'm cover. I thought about those because they thought about the song Blackbird as well which is really beautiful. But I'm hoping to sell out arenas a claim the Beatles songs as my own. I feel like blackboard doesn't really command thousands and thousands of people in the right one it. So then I was thinking, maybe go super funky, you know, and they're like they're area where they became much more, experimental or their Lear. And they started you know messing around with drugs and also just experimentally all types of things I was thinking strawberry fields forever. That's pretty like a pretty long song has a lot of ebbs and flows feel like it'd be a whole experience that, and I think you could also use it for spunk on, like it could be like a hair who commercial really shooting for the stars here. You guys a hair shampoo, commercial. What way just because because he saw the funky like strawberries, you know, there's a lot. There's a lot. Absolutely right. Well, actually, this would cost a lot of money for the publisher, but like in a magazine, and you open up the magazine and you think you're going to get like the smelling of the strawberries in like the Clairol ad and you do, but you also get a little bit of the song played. Yeah. I was gonna ask do you guys think that their songs from early on in their career? What's like I wanna hold your hand like all the Hello goodbye. You think those songs still do as well with their extremely wholesome lyrics? And it's very, it's a short song in comparison to what's out now, I'm gonna say, no. You don't think I think somebody would be would still be hit today, because just like above no matter deed. Well, but I do think some would not quite fit into like the radio today. Uber like that's we area. In like Halsey. Yeah. It's a tough landscape out there. That's truly a little bit more. If they heard some people on it, it was like can't buy me love featuring I do a liba. Yeah. It would do better today than like all his love remix dip blow the guy we talk about all the time. Hands on that song. Then maybe that would well yeah I could see them going in the way of like, okay. Wanna name this band, and I don't I don't really listen to their music. But it just feel like this static is Mumford and sons, they're amazing. Call amelia. Do I feel like they're kind of, like, you know, like more folksy? But there is room for them. Yeah. In nineteen. I agree well to see which Beatles songs Jack pretend wrote himself and all the other questions we have about this movie watch the trailer today and catch yesterday. In theaters on June twenty eight.

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Mitch Scoggins

Cinemavino

45:48 min | 1 year ago

Mitch Scoggins

"Welcome to cinema. Vino I'm ton-. I'm here. Travis and Taylor. So we're talking about summertime movies, and graduation movies, and into school year transitional, you know, coming of age yada, yada, so movies make you think about time, a place good weather, so on so forth. Oh, fucking kill you also just a little background for tonight. Taylor. And I have already activated ourselves a little bit. And so this episode might get extra. We also ran down to a creek behind Todd's house and poke stuff with sticks also, it's also known as a creek. But it sounds more gangster creek. Guess correct Travis picked up a large tree branch in pretended. It was Gandalf's staff, I told you to take it staff, actually. Now, say like that. I may have a problem. I have no memory place. So. Yeah. To start with Taylor. What are your, you know, summertime? Oh, are you gonna seal kiss from Rosemead me again? All right. Fine. Batman forever. Going into this. Pretty green didn't really do a lot of research on it. But I was trying to think even when you're talking about what had the summertime kind of had a last school vibe. And you can crib if I'm wrong, but wasn't it kind of scream was kind of that way or any of the how lean movies was like the Travis is angry. Maybe I don't know you son of a bitch. All right. I'm just gonna go ahead and say you finish what you're gonna say, I was also going to say scream was also going to say the faculty you go and talk, let you have faculty that was about as movie. But it's like, you know, the end of the year, you know, it's like everyone's outside for the most part, and, you know, there is a killer or lose. There's a so many different classical riphil, which I really, really liked just the first one by the way, but. Yeah. But that was just kind of like a an there were really out of school. It was kind of towards the end of the school year or could have been at the beginning as well quite remember. Yeah. But is that the one it's either that or faculty? And the reason I was thinking of it was the Alice Cooper song school's out for the summer playing at the beginning. I don't know if it was scream or faculty, I think it was great. Also, we talked about in the last episode this all chronological, right? Yes. Dazed and confused, which is obviously. Continues. Faculty wasn't really a graduation. Or like a it was just a weird school movie. But like summertime is perfect for. I mean, that's where the you put your big blockbuster movies. But the thing about. And I took a class guys. So I I'm very knowledgeable about this just taking that class, if you times energy from that class, this one was here in town. Terrible. Very smart. I went to school many different places. I don't know if you knew this, but, like, basically horror movies, and were some of the first ones that come direct to like VHS back in the day, just because they were like super cheap to make all you need is like, you know, some Alfred Hitchcock like panning away a picture of an, I've, maybe some gore, maybe spend some money on some other shit. But like if it is a good flick. It can make a fuck ton of money on a shoestring budget. And you can get like like might not be super successful, but fuck it like the director. They don't give a shit because you laughing all the way to the Bank spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars made ten million dollars at the box office. Franchise. Exactly. Paranormal activity, sorry. Scream scream to me was again, I'm sure, I'll think of one woman going through this. But that was one I've ever summertime outside. It was during school. But then I think there were out of school, and that's where all the kids are able to hang around. But that was one that I was like oh, you know what? Yeah. That was kind of towards the end of the year, but days confuse that clearly is the end of the school. They're throwing paper. Yeah. They're so that one hundred percent. Something else other into the year. There's a few of them. Yeah. The faculty was years Travis. And I don't think so. I mean, the faculty again, no, not, not too many special effects like. I mean, it's that one's kind of a weird one, but it's grown on me over the years. I mean, let's be honest mean it was pretty bad. It was like put a Josh Hartnett leisure would Josh Hartnett, like before he was, like Josh Hartnett. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking cow lick. I don't know she's price. Then now. No fuck you Josh Hartnett. And the little shitty Elijah wood laugh, he did when spoiler alert when he kinda like we had the pin in his hand and he let it. Or dumped it out laughing. Oh, Jordana Brewster, or she was fascinated furious. And then she got like we. Well, she wanted to a lot of other stuff ice are in the last one. And she just. I don't know. She didn't. She didn't look quite the same. She was very busty in faculty. Very busty. Just hard. It was gorgeous, too, by the way. And you had the the the. Do that played the T one thousand in Terminator two the coach football coach. Fucking usher in that. Football, buddy and you had fam- ca Janson. Senior on atop from GoldenEye. She was also Jean grey, and he was a teacher. She was the timid teacher. Then she got like little little fancy afterwards. Holy shit. John Stewart was in that to science teacher teacher. He was at his head in the Selma fuck and high heck was in that she was a school nurse. I really need to watch this movie theaters. Yes. We did. All right, Taylor, any to tell me all about my youth, because I don't remember a lot of it. I think we did. But it was. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah, I remember watching it, and then not really like, and then I would watch it on TV every once in a while. I think it's. It is not achieved cult classic status to as well. I think I have a faculty to electric blue balloon. But I think it's I feel like now that I'm talking about it kind of underrated I kind of want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna throw one out there that I saw in a theater can't hardly wait. Last. Yes. Good. Call speak. But and I went back and wash it again a few years later it kind of bothered me for a couple of reasons. I liked it at the time it came up because it you know, at at that age resonated. I think I was freshly graduated at that point in time, but you just like smash mouth, I love smash mouth. I mean early stuff. General few, it was in like a music video or something. I don't know dunno weird times. But yeah going back, it's like man that the main characters made him so Wimpy it bugs the hell out. I will say, though it is. When you go back and look at movies like that. It doesn't knowing me a little bit, but at the same time that is a movie that is, actually, I think, held up at so stupid, and so like he named cliche. So just recently, I wouldn't put it in the category. But I watched not another teen movie. Clearly making fun of the similar Chris Evans yet. Exactly. It was like, and what a great movie that was to poke fun of other movies, but can't hardly wait. Which is a great movie. It was. Greatest Trump word, but it was it was just like at the time so well done. And it was a little kid from. Anybody wanna love burger? Nerdy kid was the kid from hook. He was rob Williamson. Yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. And God, damn it the dude in love burger. He was in Franklin and bash show. Shorted, fuckin- hilarious guy. Also in road trip. Yes. Yeah. I like that, dude. He's. Yeah. I mean he's played some similar characters, but like, well he was thirty seven in all those roles. Forty two. Zef green was in can't hardly wait. It was okay. Ethan Embry one. If I may jump in for a nerd tastic. Can we can we put like a pop video the noise affect when I'm wait? All right. Aroused? Eaten Embry was rumored to be playing night crawler in X men two before Alan Cumming got cast. So I heard even puck is Ethan Embry. It was like, oh us in. Empire records. I think and he was also in can't hardly wait of like that. Dude is night crawler. Like. All right. Cool. So as Ardy thinking of him night crawler, and then they went with Alan Colmes. Oh, sweet. So anytime I hear Ethan Embry. That'd be almost night, crawler. Also something else. Yeah. That thing you do that thing you do. I think he was also in Vegas vacation. He was. Yeah. Ross. Yeah. I lost between thought we can't hardly wait jinx. That's the second time. We've done that. Wait. Do I? Oh you a EJ. That's my understanding. So you look back at all these, like, also down. Redacted. So you look back these moves away fused. They all have the same trope of the dorky kid that suddenly like wants to become cool, or break out of shell or yada, yada, yada. I noticed in the upcoming previews, we'll Farrell's producing a movie called book, smart where these two nerdy, girls at the end of high. It's like the last day of school graduation party, whatever it's like, you know, we will announce it, we're cool, and we were actually not nerds and yada, yada. And so that's that's been a ongoing theme of these movies is the dorky kid wants to break out. Yeah. And so the kid from hook. That's in can't hardly, wait, is the to me. That's the first kid, I think of him, racking up a paradise city. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But then the God, the kid gets enough fight days fuse. It's like the two. They the nerd car that are driving to the party and talk about how they wanted to do something cool. Yeah. And it manifest is so big in a fight. And then, you know, the kid and carol-lee weight goes crowds or crowd surfing, so and his homeboys in that same movie, they chill on the roof of that house. And they're doing like Star Trek and Star Wars nursery of exiles. Yeah. Also terror to put you on the spot which best perform has an excellent Jiro Connell. Impression from can't hardly wait. Actually, this is news to me. As you whispered it. Yeah. I was like. Suddenly an impression is courting what he's saying. Dhamma dozen. Oh. I wanna say it's good. But I remember Taylor every do know what his name was Joe Connell. Oh, they're Mitch Scoggins. I like that copyright that name. Joe jr. We need to develop a character, mid SCO Jains actual name Todd. We know it. I mean so ask do you know or am I know a I know? Yes, trip mcnealy. That's it. It's tipsy mixed egg trip something. I don't know if it was like, but it was just like what a weird name. I'm taking back your. In, in our lives. And we did not go to school with, with Todd back in the day. Taylor night, ended the same high school together. I reminded of time when we did a lot of. Hidden drinking at a park in a force area, and that, that line that dime fucking dozen got income Mandy. Bandied about a lot, and it was it was way too funny. Like, I think it was really funny. Then what was what was funny is? How often we say that, right before you Trink a shitty like natural light, so that movie also brings back memories and the wooded area where you guys drink a lot was not too far from where I went to high school. If I recall correctly. I don't wanna say me names that name was redacted. Taghrid actively lake redacted. New or movie. That would be a great lake on acted starring. Mitch scoggins. Navy? Scoggins Scoggins co. Jains SC, g g I n s Skogen 's Scoggins. Okay. I feel like he would how pre- pretty strong three-quarters beard. They'll do these back hair. You got the LA looks like the debt for sure. But he's also like he's like, you know, just graduated junior about to be a senior. He's like character. Yeah. Yeah. We're, we're kind of these young summer movies are like our guys next year. It's going to be our year. It's going to be that kind of movie, but he's a he's a detective essentially, he's hardy, boy, Taylor. Yeah, he wasn't. But now he is. Yes. Myths gugans highschool detective on solve it a crime. Oh, Mike redacted. Okay. Taught. This entire episode because we're making money and over the. Back to the original. Yeah. Travis earth. Todd is over is opened the kin of worms here. Now, you're when you can't hardly wait. Now you're getting into light. You could go to the old school, kind of like schools, pretty in pink, you know, breakfast club. But for our timeframe really compared it that was American pie. Also into the year graduation. That's right, prom, a good soundtrack. And it's like you kind of think about that did hold on, get before we do a deep dive and that. Why? Was it can hardly wait? I don't think it was the first one to do this. But at the end of the movie, they had, like, what happened to them where they would like throw up a their yearbook picture was him and moment. And then say like this person went under do this. Do they do that for like wet hot American summer? That's right. Okay. So it was a little bit of a callback to that. And as I thought about wet hot summers can't movie any can't movie hams family values meatballs Wednesday. Mean what was like, I'll be the victim all your life. Honestly. Yeah. And they just released a trailer for animated Addams family. The animation. Looks weird. Yeah. How do you not get Christina Ricci to come back? At least two boys. She's got spare time or. Taylor trucks fired. All right. Cool. So strike one, Christina Ricci. Never listen podcast. We're never gonna date. Thank you, Taylor. That's on me. I'm just saying everyone becomes miss, I'd gig her been athletes. I kick. Sorry, American guy. I was just saying that. In that timeframe. It's like there were a bunch of came out like ninety eight to two thousand one like that was like the Zona. That's why I kind of, like, you know, not another team movie because it is made fun of all that see Rogers was an emphasis great. But it was a great funny film, to also look back on all the other ones that came out your in laws. Yeah. Ten about you. Oh, yeah. Like she's all that. She all ain't all that. No that totally pretty prints. Pretty pretty P and earthier. Calm down. Paul Walker time peeing. Drink ten things I hit about you was interesting going back to it. Now is that? Both heath ledger who played joker and then David Hyde Pierce. I appears different three who's at other Robin in the third. Just Gordon Deppe. Thank you. David. No. I just wanna say Debra. Hi peers. From Frazier, brother and Frazier. Yeah, he was rumored to play the Riddler and the third. Christopher Nolan movie. That's weird. Also PSA Philip Seymour, Hoffman was also rumored, play ping one and a third one. I want both those mother love that Jesus. But we got Tom hardy is Bain which was interesting, but didn't really ineffective fill. My rice will Pulp Fiction off. But, but going back to ten things hit about you. That was interesting to watch after seeing dark Knight, rises and being like oh shit joker and Robin. Same high school. On world. One thing flips out of the Guber, the nerd, who wants to break out and be cool. There is always movies, the cool guy that kind of gets his come up. I think days, the benef- let care know who ends up looking like dick, and I believe the cool guy in cowardly weight, and he gets it come up and study. Well, Trent me Neely is that trip now. That's the guy the boyfriend guy he is like the JV Tom Cruise can't get Tom Cruise get this guy. He he broke us with because Jerry O'Connell is trimming, and it's the younger like the guy younger version of him. And he sees. That's right. I don't know that guy's name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, his last his whole main redacted Ford. But he's tons of injuries me. Can't see this shaking my head out, but he ends up. I mean obviously spoiler alert. But he ends up not getting the girl in the end. I mean, that's I think that's a theme of those movies two is the cool guy who ends up being exposed. Yeah, actually, I really liked song at the end of can't hardly wait, where he's waiting at the airport of the fucking train. I dunno train go give shit, but okay, cool. But it say yes. Song, why as e like only you. Yeah. How's it go? You. Okay. That was close. That was beautiful here that range, I know higher. Oh, that was like a tuning fork, that was so clear. Getting more into the shot that was, I believe only buy, yes. Yes. Why as easy as far weird? I do like all those films though. There's always something going on, like even with like American pie towards the end. It's like everyone has a goal. But everyone's goal has ended differently. That's the same can't hardly late was like the very end. It's like okay. This person got this person this person failed this. That's how Marican pie was. And that's why kinda like those films. But go back to the scream was like twists on terms. Like you didn't really who is the killer. But again, that was kind of a. Did. But, you know, I think of other summer summertime season ending movies, and I'm just a blank just thinking, and this isn't in high school bane. Refocusing on like end of high school or going into summer as we were talking. I mean, I don't wanna bring up the same movies every fucking time every here we go. But like the thirteenth warrior. So you see Antonio vendors. Fucking around. Okay. You're right. It was good weather. I think I think you are, don't treat Gentil viewers listeners. Like if you guys haven't watched thirteenth warrior fuck you. That's why it feel. Jaws, basically it starts during their big going season. They're like. All right. Cool. Everybody is going to be coming to the island. We don't have to talk about it hardcore because we talked about several times, but also even bigger if you've never seen jaws even Baker fuck you. What are you doing your life your head the game? And I would say just to is interesting as well still is not John Williams Centric. Oh, yeah. Now just three. I finally saw that. And Paul thank God. Thank you. If I could get my hand on the original like real of that. And I could want it up into, like one ball, I would show that so far my ass. Now jaws revenge is dog shit, but Michael Caines in it. So I kind of makes me giggle. Michael Caine grind. And the dude that was in last star fighter. Of course. Here's, here's a question for Todd of all the movies. Yeah. Sorry. Travis Joses of set. Why is it because of a Spielberg thing? But why has that not of all the films that are happening? Now, everybody's rebooting redoing. Why is that a timid to be rebooted or added to I'm hoping that because is it because like you can't the classic. And I'm sure he I mean obviously wheels a lot of cloud. Yeah. Probably the same Indiana Jones issue. Yeah. He, he is the I mean he's Mount Everest and Hollywood. So if he says, you're not gonna remake you're not gonna remain. If there was ever a film, where nowadays, he would be able to be like, oh, hey, with CGI everything. And yes, I try to shaking his head. No, I get kind of bullshit. But if there's ever a time where you could maybe perfect this. I mean, we all saw Debu, see. And we saw that was dog, but he's gotten better after Samuel Jackson dipped out. Yeah. L O cozy for life. But anyway. I'm just shocked that haven't tried to like redo that I feel like this day and age. It would probably kill the feeders. Yeah. I mean you know you notice that like close encounters. I mean even stuff teams produce Guineas back the future. None of that stuff is getting rebooted and magic because he has the absolute say see back to the future getting rebooted to site. I can see back future doing like, and they could do like a modern version like some fucking kid is like DeLorean. I guess this will be my first car, basically make the transformers movie with child again. And they're just gonna shoehorn in like you're saying China booth and back the future in the same sentence. Scares me, mentally. Does. Hollywood is getting a boner right now. But no. So, John is even though they made several shitty sequels, even I mean what we'll say so Todd, I often do a five star review of movies, basically, scaled, one to ten if you give it half or whatever I would say jaws is Dame, you're fine. Perfect. I. It was five star movie or a counter ten on one to ten what would you give jaws to Sikkim half? Okay, so not absolute dog shit, but a rotten tomatoes score of sixty five percent. Yeah. On your scale it passes bear. It's I mean I enjoy like I get it. I like revisiting the characters but jaws, the original is on an upper echelon, so that's, like, that's like, fucking if you're going to film school, like, oh, cool while you're going to need these prerequisites, and the progress is you need watch jaws and see how much a failure can be turned into a a win because the shark they made. Oh, they would always have like, okay. Sharks busted charts, not working sharks fucked up. And they shot around it. They were like okay. Well, maybe we don't have. See the shark in seen maybe we can shoot around it. Maybe what you don't see or is, is worse and in your head than what we show on the screen, and then at the end the full like jaws money shot. And you know it doesn't the. Effects that they use doesn't one hundred percent. Hold up today when you see it like snatch and grab Quint when it's a beached on the ship of the orca, but, like still super effective. They use it less and less and because of their failure in using the original shark. It's like enhanced when you do see it or when they use it, it's, it's forced them to be crafty sickly. It was a brilliant accident. Yeah, let's get doing more high school kids trying to fuck van were bad van wilder. We're gonna take a brief break Todd. We're on a roll my my butt cheeks or asleep. So for the weekend, a row, I thought we got you cushion. We get to Stu highchair me Donut sin, Venus. Also, sponsored by peparation eight. Saying over brother out it could also summer's eve. That's like me. Imagine are cut cut-away commercial. Are you feeling not so fresh? Travis all the damn time. Honestly, I need me Schick razor. So I can like trim my pew plants into a pleasing shape. So they'll be accepted by society. I thought we were Gillette family here, we're Gillette, but no, no. But for your downstairs, you'll need. Ashiq. That's our tagline downstairs. I'm also going to give what we need to do in between. These breaks is, we need to give the viewers something or I'm sorry listeners, some think about if you could drink listener, can you just Google the WB frog or CW, frog? What, what is it? Warner brothers. Yeah. In, you just tell me is he smiling or is he rock in a bone that lower jaw day? Like, look suspicious. Looks day Specht. So while we're on our break, you just see the CW frog Rockin bone also tied. I know I said this at the top of this episode that Taylor and I were a little activated. I'm glad that we could bring a frog Boehner's to school podcast about summer. Hashtag, frog Boehner's. If you wanna ask us question, you just slap on a hashtag, frog moaners and Todd will answer your questions on Twitter on Instagram be on Twitter at me. Me before we go to break. Let's, let's just mention that we're you can listen to us movie, your views dot US, as well as get Todd's gangster s live, just like watching movies, and writing about them and live, my best life on sitting over here. Just wondering what the hell am new? We're going to nine to five focused fucking die in one week at time shook frog Boehner's Todd over here, watching episode to game of thrones eating brunch on a Monday, let's cheese and bacon. I'm at work slowly dying. One time. Anyway, guys limit best life right now. You can subscribe and rain on apple. You can listen subscribe and rate us on apple podcast or on Spotify. What do that? You can listen subscribe and rate us on apple podcasts or on Spotify. And we're gonna try and step up. Our Twitter presence. And we're going to be at the real dumb Trump real. Also, alyssum Milano because we're all on both sides. Posit on that tonight. Welcome back to cinema vino. Hey guys, we're back. I'm more behave. Now, it's like in the courtroom movies, whenever they take like ten minute recess to compose themselves. I think that's what we stepped outside. And like kind of breathe a little bit, and very, my cunny my cousin, Vinny ass. It was like he's gonna step outside for a little bit. I found my inhaler. I'm calm down now. House is clear. One movie I wanted to bring in there that you have talk about because it was like the regional was American graffiti, or George Lucas. I never. I've never it the our local museum, Philbrick museum. That's yeah, it was a nice film. I mean, that was like Harrison Ford first real big movie. Richard Dreyfuss Richard Dreyfuss, the ending was weird Toya warm, where the day map. But that come to me that was the movie that really kicked off the nostalgia, like that really romanticized the end of school, the transition, the, you know, the becoming adults idea of movies. It was a good movie. I never seen it before until this is like summer several summers ago and it was an outdoor movie. I'll go see it, and I was like, really into nobody else. I was with was into it, and I was like, okay like comment to pay attention to this, and what a great film and never seen him before I was like, I should try that again. And another one that we didn't. It's not a movie. But it definitely it romanticize the idea summer is Seinfeld the summer of George. Yes. That, that to me, I think summertime a lot, and, you know, we've had some friends. Yes, I'm thinking of one particular their own summertime like. Oh, yeah. You know excursion, yes. Yeah. We're doing this. And it's. You know that I have this three month four month period, and I'm going to do everything I can in this three or four month period. I mean I had one of those, I think it lasted about six weeks, hanging full summer Darren. During summer. Some retreive is six weeks. Trying to a summer of traffic thirty seventy years, Taylor are telling people how old I am offering thirty Redan also tell them that in two years. I'm going to go to the doctor and find out. Everything's wrong with me at the age of forty. Like doctors gonna put his pinky pooper hashtag pinky and the pooper and I'm gonna be like hurt me daddy, like that given that ring finger. And sapling. Again, we're talking about Taylor in Iraq. Debated. Put a ring finger bowl. You on the middle. What are you looking for me, or should, I say, fingers doctors choice? I mean I'm not gonna. Doc, whatever you like you. River. Temperature does not matter. The man with hot or cold man with the middle school for all those years. He's earned the right to pick. Yeah. So. Hannie way daddy. The. Cassim for the second. Okay anyway. Weird. Science was sure good. I really I enjoyed it as an other. Can we come about big top pee wee wasn't that some of basically who is well school's out riding a bike. Anyway. So you Seinfeld kind of the that episode crystallized the law, the dependence, people have summertime. It's that open free like you can do whatever you want be whatever you want. No rules, just right. I think being a kid to that was, you know, we always look back to our child that was the greatest time. It's like there's no school. You're an awesome. You know, like granted, I don't have any children personal tag. Tag. I know of, but like you so summertime still pretty cool to me. It's like, hey, I can do whatever I want bureau side, more often, make more trips. But I do understand, like, you know, the summer my nubby fun for some people know, cool. I saw have to do this take care of my kids. It was like, but summertime does still had that or of like you can basically do whatever you want, you want to go outside in the heat school pool. You know, drinking seems to be a little bit more, less clothing for people drinking mirror acceptable at all our today. It's hot. It's like, oh having a cocktail at ten o'clock in the morning. Oh at summertime. Okay. Fair. That's why I mean I I do enjoy like weird sciences. Again, one of those off the wall. I don't know if it's summer film, but it does have one of those tropes, that is often in those high school summer films, which is like a riot it somewhere. Guess what? My parents are out of town, his parents at a town, we have a party should already, and then fast forward, a Bill Paxton like half frog half duty Senate living room and weird science to frog with the. Frog fucking. What was earlier? Oh my God. We did we talked about the. You'd be frog. We have like a hashtag troub- fucking earlier. I think I'm not going to remember this episode. Todd's going to be texting me the next day of like things that I've said, I'm like, that's awesome. Who said that was like you did what? All right. I'm gonna have to listen twice. But weird science. So he got Anthony, Michael hall, Bill Paxon, other fucking guy that ain't on shit, Kelly Le Brock or Kelly brook, code liberal. Yeah. Oh, Robert Downey junior. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean talk about the Vena we've been drinking. Yeah, let's, let's pay some bills. Yeah. We talk about the vino even drinking here. We got the Justin gerardine who finished second in American idol for season. Kelly Clarkson, does you are Depardieu, but it's a really good French burgundy. But going, but going U P now for the Labor's, that's a Pena, nor very easy drinking, and bright, light ladder bodied smooth whatever you put in my last night, several times, I've not disliked Travis hasn't hailed. So yes, they gets his stamp of approval. He has Hoover up everything that's glass. Glade your problem. My glucose levels were all. All right. Appreciate you pointed out. Podcast. I'm gonna need final edit on this episode, I think some receives dropped us sponsor. Their, their standards. Aren't that high? They were on their on the fence cinema. Vinas brought to you by two thousand flushes. So if I say it we're one hundred percent sponsored by it. Right theory is I could use about forty to sixty bars of Irish spring, now that is a good soup use that to lather up and you just feel fresh like you dipped yourself in an Irish waterfall. Yep. Travis redact. It's brought to you by lever two thousand honestly, like I get me bar of lever two thousand or Irish spring and hop in a pool. Fullish midst gay. Lever to you've got some, we're new. The other one that we. Yes, we drink two bottles of wine the massages Rouge. It's sheen on to cabinet Franck its way bowling when we had before. Yeah. Bigger bolder, fuller-bodied. It's got more tannin's. It's got more to it. It's some stank. I mean it's got that kind of dark current troot to it. So it's a Little Richard little fuller, so I mean that's, that's two very different wines. But they were both quite nice. All my life. Can't hardly wait and joss. Exactly. I mean if my behaviors indication these things. Yeah. Travis had a lot of those radio. Streaking. I'm ready to get weird and I'll post links to both of those at movie review links moved to both of those of, like we're just going to full on have a make out session, and we're going to tweet those. Yeah. Them launch us on Twitter. I don't know. Wait remaking on Twitter. Live tweet, so here's is thinking, like you, and I make out and Todd videos. Baden I make out and you video, it you and Todd make out an video it. Like, basically, we're going to get at least three good three good video, let the viewers vote on who's the best kisser and Debbie frog comes in, when Boehner frog hashtag lime wire download guys, I'm gonna go ahead and take a take five on the rest of this episode. Sorry. Travis has left the conversation. Anyway. This has been another episode Senate vino signing off. I can fuck up some more than you're, you're a brief. Hi, Dr do you have any last minute movie you can think of mean Boone, you ain't skew? No. That's not a movie business slogan copyrighted out away. So are welcome to Silvio. Cushion. The piece of paper either moving interested in telling what are you drinking? You get more. Can we just get paid for drinking wine and talking shit about movies, and then going off on this wild tangents hit ties about the cue-card move, reviews dot US? Listen subscribe, and rate on apple podcasts or Spotify, also be sure to follow us on Twitter Twitter handle redacted. I'm nowhere. It's coming from at movie reviews, US. Oh, yeah. Quitter and Facebook grams at Todd Lawford movies. Yeah. Instagram's pretty sexy. By the way, it is that I mean tight jeans, so revenue rakes and I mean, again the water's there, so I say, put drive and see what happens. Scoggins. Schooled. Taylor. Is your go? You gonna play his. Grieve? Darrow play. I'll do. Jeez. Hopping, streams and rubbing sticks we out. 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After The Show 653: Most Wanted Blu-ray Review

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After The Show 653: Most Wanted Blu-ray Review

"This episode of after the show is brought to you by Odyssey autism may cause of headphones for Gamers an audio files. Alike, you can check them out on www dot AU de easy dot. Com www dot a u d easy dot com. You're listening to the after the show movie podcast from Ace. Go Dot com confined this podcast on the I team's music store Google play youtube voice assistance just say listen to after the show maybe post and you can also find as an ace corey dot com where we post written reviews without the way area hosts hey, scully and sits on. Hello, everybody. Hello and good afternoon all. Oh. What isn't afternoon when they're listening this I didn't say hello to use it so. Why Did you know? You are that's dangerous territory right there. You could have a half a podcast. If you don't want me I don't have to talk I consider him play city skylines for the next hour and a half while you talk to yourself. Remember I mean. I won't 'cause I probably an impossible to ask but. Watch for be careful what you ask for? You making a Lotta noise over that then and then okay. All, right. So what the before the after the show scenario. You were testing Oh. Yeah. That's US test many times to S.'s out get the s out. Internet. Now Lot you did little research on the real story of this movie. Correct. I started up city skylines as I do, and that's about it. I can't believe a high level of activity going on here today I can't believe you would stop skylines when you've got the brand new sims for expansion packs that requires an entire day and I'm not prepared to do that yet. Project have been working on, but it can't work on that while I'm doing this. So this is what do I do this? I can't to single task it. You. Have you only got a small brain? Small Brain. That's why I need to do more than one thing at once. I I'M GONNA. Have to pass on that question. And let the audience designed. Brain is kind of answer it. I have a massive brain. It has to do ten things at once. Right. So I would be the first targeted Zombie apocalypse will say. TWO REASONS ONE CARDIO Too Big Brain I mean I'm screwed. True. All. Right. So we Saturday September. Twenty fifth this is after the show or a movie review podcast. We're GONNA be doing six hundred and fifty third episode. Maybe Sam Pipe in sound of cheers of crowds. The maybe we're looking at this week is to the American audience is most wanted. To everywhere else in the world, it will be called is called target number one. So dependent on your region that the movie you'll be looking for I'm going to start their the criticism because naming most wanted is not it's not accurate. and. It's misleading. Does. Not enhance the movie watching experience. I'll say that I'm just telling you this two names I'll take the other please. Let's watch it again but with that title in my mind. Sonically Twenty Twenty movie released on Blu Ray from our friends at paramount, you can pick it up now it's rated R. From Joel and sits out will give you the synopsis and then I'll give you the real synopsis. Loosely based I. Believe. On a real life Canadian. Law Enforcement. Scam. But they would call it a mission to stop the drug trade from Thailand into Canada, and basically they got a semi innocent. Canadian citizen involved ended up not turning out will for everyone really pretty much. So Josh. Hartnett they. There's your there's. Says on the box is inspired by a gripping story and investigative reporter Josh Hartnett. Fights to expose the twisty truth behind the heroin bust off. By dirty cops frame and innocent mind sentencing him to a life in prison. So you you got it pretty much. I mean I watched that so All right. So most wanted, what did you think? I. Really enjoyed it. The end the. Did I. It's. Kind of. Bland. As in bland bad bland as in I don't know I felt like got settled in I just. Enjoyed it, but it's blunt. It's bland as in there's nothing. That goes crazy in any direction it's not overly dramatic. It's not overly action packed. It's not overly emotional. It's not overly greedy and ugly. It's not overly anything however, normally, I wouldn't like that 'cause that's like boring bland. This is bland as in is not trying too hard to be anything. It's just telling this story it's not other than the shaky cam which away right now really sucks everyone needs to stop doing that for the most part The stylistic moments when they try to do little camera that I could live without that. But other than that it's just like a solid. You sit down, you take up the story enjoyed the characters feeling something for everybody hating this guy hate and that guy like this guy for this guy. A little bit torn right? Because the criminal guys also seems like an okay guy and. You know what I mean. There's nothing outrageous in any direction, but it isn't. Boring. So I have I. don't know of Bland, is the right word so you know. Is the wrong work. 'cause you call it. I call it. Interesting. Okay. And Why liked about it is is inspired by a true story. Don't say it's the Gospel Truth of what happened. Yeah. Well, I think most of the major things did happen. For. Instance in going to prison for life in a hyper them. But. I think it's interesting I'm what I like about. This is because it is a Canadian I mean in Canada people know by it. I'm assuming right I don't know Canadian people but I'm assuming it's the thing that was in the news because it was you know. Pretty. If you think about it after the fact, he's definitely newsworthy right the helping push it involves repulsive for the newspaper. So. You know maybe it was really hyped open. It was on the news in Canada Book. Willie never none of it. Yeah. We don't hear of it. It's all yet when they dramatize like a big thing that happened in American news, you kind of know yellow I know I remember this happens all the way along. We don't know this a tall. So it felt like a fresh story to me. Even. Though like you said. It's not. You know. You know the movie pain and gain. Based on a true story and it goes to insane you like what this upper end up kind of. Falls like in your own like I even believe this is a real thing. This thing. This is a bit more. Yes it's got some fantastical kind of things like. You know. Are we gonNA say spoilers for real. Life News event. I mean to spoil every single movie. I don't know why this would be any different. Well, he goes to tie prison I mean the Big Hawk for me was that he goes to the type Resin and then Spends eight years trying to get himself out of type prison with no actually no help That's the supernatural. No supernatural fantastical like like something where you would go. Wow somebody actually did that committed to do that? You know like? A. Like a inspirational thing, right? I think that's fantastic. All the time witness like. How I think we have different definitions of what fantastical might be means it's you know. What you would think somebody would do so he does that but the actual. Crime part of the movie. It's kind of cdn dirty. That's how it feels to me like most of the things that are going on is people going behind each other's backs and his people lying like straight up in front of people that. Yes, and you keep getting like A. Like a dirty kind of. Everybody's like out for themselves. And the criminal is the most likable guy. I think the new. report was the most likeable Gandhi's supposed to you're supposed to root for him but the criminal guy of amongst all the others he just like a guy. Is Not super wonderful or anything, but I mean. Felt for him. I mean. He's just he's just a he's a would be a criminal. Like. You know well, not criminal. Let's say, no criminal he was. A drug addict. He's been a drug addict John and back on drugs. Yeah. So he's not necessarily a good you know great upstanding guy but. Jug Attic does not make anything wrong with you. Well, it often turns to things like where he robbed the petrol station and right but I mean the being an addict part is not the problem, but you see this dude is. Capable of being. You know doing whatever he needs to do to get his drugs fortunately loans upon this guy unfortunately unfortunately, you kind of weasel it. We Zim along by giving him some drugs every now and then so he doesn't have to go out and he's a real sleaze bag fight for drugs. Yeah. I'd rather have A. Brother cousin nephew husband who's a drug addict whose destroying in? Yeah. Makes them shitty decisions than never mint manipulated fuck in my life partner language but that Guy Represents. That he's just. Does a good job of it but look. There's a drug dealer. That's what he is. Isn't he? That's he is really well, also informant. So he's like Kinda me when I hasten just. sleazy. But he's just like a complete Lia-. Looking horrible like immediately way says to our UH The guy. He says like take me to the APP goes go some big meetings. Do I guess I OUGHTA? Doesn't go to the liar. He's just as you can tell that elicited emotion from man don't like those people and they exist. That's the really Shitty Bart that manipulative and he's also our person is the Kinda guy who is one thing to one person and one thing to another like yeah exactly. Wherever he needs to be he is for that person. So like and yeah. He's really sleazy but he played a really good. That's Jim Gaffe again. Comedian Guy. He a good job being shit he did a good job not even being a comedian was also. Serve. As you can tell, I'm not a bully I didn't expect some of the twists and turns of this movie why the actual drug deal? Didn't expect what happened that happen now in real life it from what I could gather on the web didn't actually go down quite graphically as. You know. So bad and somebody died essentially. Yeah and this movie actually I've never I don't think I've ever seen the movie make a pint of this. A FAUCI. So pay dialog box says. that. Some of this movie was. Dramatically enhanced I guess, right. How did they put it? That it was challenging. Dramatic effect and actually. Not. Usually movies like this whether you say inspired by a true story, that's where it starts and ends inspired by true story and then when you're watching it, you can't light. Okay. What's true and what's not I'm going to have to look at it afterwards. But this movie kind of makes a point of saying this a straight up. This was true and that was like so. And, you can go and look it up and the guy. You just hot in a place. I actually wrote a whole book about this one incident. And that guy is is a famous Whilst he called is a famous Canadian victim leric. Canadian news journalists these like one of those investigative generalist and he still is now age seventy five. And he's. You know this isn't this isn't is most famous think. So you get what I'm saying he's a he's cracked other things which are bigger than this one. So. You like it overall. Your have anything else did it makes me a few movies that do that they just WanNa tell. Underbelly of something even something like What was it called Whistle Blower Doc Walter dark water was it whistleblower where she's with the hired police force that go over to? Yes. Czech. Republic. Croatia. Yeah. That kind of stuff has that feeling that one was more intense but I mean. The same vibe is you've got a person who's just Trying to do the right thing swimming in an ocean of corruption and. Vile people who. Is just disgusting and you know hopefully they triumph they don't always though some real life stories don't end up quite. So I mean that's the ending. This even led the the reports guy even gets to a point of like his family being threatened. Let's stop stop reporting unless that's you know questionable questionable. In the. Look to the real thing that was. It was his word against as though. Light they even made a pint of saying it in this movie he said to his wife how you know. Yeah We. I don't know it was. Yeah. It could have just been actually somebody trying to do a home invasion this on related to anything you. Do is you know it's one of those things where you let I mean this situation and now people are up mind other movie that comes to mind Silkwood. Stuff like that. That's an Oldie people are like, what's that? Yes shares in it to look it up. Yeah we'll some blower movie I mean does those kinds of tropes for those kind of movies where you've got like the journalist and he's just on the edge of figuring it out. And also the people might not necessarily be. That likable. You. Know you've got this guy just had a baby, but he's obsessing over this case and then you're like shouldn't you be do we met but then you think well, it's for the betterment of society. So. So, feral I mean, there's a bunch of light things you've seen before in other movies. Are We kinda felt to me watching. It is I did find gripping. I didn't really know what it was going. Aside from. The the Makeup of this movie, it starts in one time period and then switches to another and then switches back to another. So you kind of see it from different angles. So you know like all of a sudden, our main guy is in Thai prison. And then explain us have to watch it. Yeah. But it's Time Joe I was surprised like, oh I. Don't know if it's time jump. It's just basically telling the story kind of you're telling one part of it. Then you rewind in the new show, the other part how we got to wear, which isn't confusing actually in this movie, it got a little bit confusing at one point when I was like, okay. beat up now and he's not imprison. So is he just before or are we jumping forward? What's going on that I kind of got my head clear so it was a little bit confusing. House like a non linear structure to it. I mean. Only jumps a couple of times to be honest. It's not. It's not doing. The right word but I know what you're saying well, it is a Joel embiid in that it goes forward in them back and then forward. Then back. Essentially watching a flashback of what how you know. It's like a really long flashback is like a big like, yeah. Like a big middle of the movie up. The cast in this movie while anyway the real life story of this before gunslinger cast. pretty much ended the way. This movie ends with the Guy Getting out of the type prison is our actually ended in real life. Bought the is unclear if you will wondering said talk. Is the. If. The cops were actually. You. Know the bit with the sun and the the back of the trump weather. Any of that was real. and. It was. None of it. No there was a joke deal that went down in the middle of the street, but there was no driving a truck with a gal victimes died. Of Head, trauma. Drama. So this close enough to the truth media. Grimy though didn't they asked in the hagins shooting and just they? Basically they didn't. If you follow the real life, thing is not a really exciting action scene were they made an exciting action scene and? That's very no I didn't come. It's unfortunate. That late filmmakers think they have to do that but you know. I didn't as an audience member I would have been happy with what really happened because then people I guess look it up and now you've told me it's based on real story and now you told me that's not true at all. So then I'm like, why are you lying? I know it has to be victimized fictionalized to some degree, but just take what was there and tell a good story with it. It's almost like saying to the Real Life Guy Oh you stories NYC site in an. Reliable. So boring we need someone to get stabbed in the head which to me sounds like Kinda. Disrespectful. but he did the guy did sign love this movie the real guy. So how good he was all of the guys played them you know so I was just reading about. So, this is a victim alaric the journalist. He's played by Josh Hartnett who we both said we haven't seen him sometime in movies. We don't feel we I looked him up. He's been on television some penny dreadful which I've never seen. You know that part of it. Think is like horror right? I got what it is up to serve it The last time I remember watching Josh Hartnett was Sin City twenty years ago well, maybe the second since its he as well maybe he was in both Mount. Thanks though. So, victim I think he really did a good job. Very good. It's. Like intense. Yesterday with a Lotta Shit. There's a lot of him. Kind of a thought I thought there was a little bit too much. Of them hammering the he might not have a job if he doesn't get his next thing written. Yeah. As a bit boring, just kept going on and on to me I was like, okay, said this three times and now we've got the the bus saying well, then you're supposed to be like okay. So he's the sleazy reporter who wants to get a good story. This guy's this sleazy cop who wants to get a good thing and this is the sleazy drug dealer who wants to make a bunch of money and the poor. Petty criminal is the victim of all of them. Yes. But in the end, this guy didn't really seem to care that he was losing his job. And I think the star of this movie is the guy plays done you'll leaguer. Antoine is really good. One Oliva pill on his a Canadian actress actor. So. Good. Yeah, intense. In a way that reminded me of A. Monk in movies. I don't we is often. Ryan Gosling. The kind of intensity that has like A. Like, he's really in it like this guy. And you know the scenes worries in the prison and that fight scene was really good. You know where he had to fight the two guys. Yeah really good. It was really well filmed as well. Interesting because it like. It was like the camera fellow ver at one point. But carried on filming, which I thought was interesting the interesting camera stuff in this aside from the shaky camera stuff but. This guy I'm one outlet Zemzem. Definitely cause a I think he really nailed lightly idea of this guy, and especially at the end where you know that very last thing they said. We said I'm grateful. Yeah. I just thought that was like Oh. Yeah. Did he say that though are we just being like super email probably beans And then Jim Geoghegan him down as Glenn Picker and I've not seen Jeff in anything else. I have seen clips of his stunned up. And I have seen him on Howard Stern being interviewed. I've never actually seen him acting and I. I said to you. He really is reminded me of one of my favorites, Philip Seymour Hoffman Yeah I mean he makes a really good sleazy Mojo. At Yeah, strike everything about amy feel grimy dislodging him like the way he moves the ways like you know what? When we first meet and he's got them women in his room. Yeah. Is like this junkie? He's kind of the well, he thinks he is the man right like in all these people. Yeah. And then man. Phony pitcher with like a dude like to show a guy to impress him. That must be something people do like it's pathetic as on same corruption of people to get what they want. It's L.. It's not surprising but they did a good. He did a good job of making me go look I actually I was like, yeah, I'm Julie. I've never seen before becoming a fan of this guy. I'd like to see. You know he's. He's got some of the Navarro. He doesn't with with me knowing is a stand up comic thinking is going to be a goofy character. It actually isn't a goofy character is like a very realistic character. Like the person who lies. In a bad way. Yeah. Book I think done for that guy and this is directed by Daniel Roby's a Canadian director. Directed movie called Funky town which have not seen a bunch of other key French Canadian movies. and. This movie did have some subtitles, right? Attlee spoke in French. I mean I don't mind subtitles bomb just letting people know throughout some subtitles when he's talking to his mother on the phone when he's talking to so. Is Girlfriend sometimes. But what did you think of this director into that Shaka and the shaky cam but everything else I think I think it's just that what I was saying it's not like what stands out to me is the main guy how good he is. The feelings that I got from all the people involved the this. You know I've that's memorable. But other than that. It's serviceable and I know that's probably insulting to art people but. It is what it is. And it's you know the type of movie it is it fits in well with those types of movies, right? It is telling the story, but it's been a little bit dramatic about it. And if you like. It's not espionage. Cross in. People being shitty corruption basically like the police department get a big Wad of cash because the whole world including American Canada are on a kick there in the was it the late eighty s early ninety s early no mid eighties right eighty-five cam. Okay. So there was a big kick on the war on drugs and so all of the sudden budgets go up and you know public profiles go up and we need to prove we're spending the money and then people start profiting on all sides from that and so I think that was. Part of what was going on there to these these cups basically wanted boast the next big thing. So they could go up the chain. Everybody's trying to get a Chang yeah, exactly of the rope unit up the chain. So, there are no extras on the Blue Tall, which is unfortunate. I often find if something's inspired by trees story in never any extras. So you're GONNA have to look yourself There is a book about this written by. The Guy who judge Hannah plate so you can read the whole thing from the horse's mouth I. Guess. On a find that would probably be more accurate right because he's actually from the guy I mean it would, and then again you know we weren't there. But you can find that I went to his website victim leric dot com and there's a lot of information about this movie. That's. So there are no extras bbut. Let's go to the reviews while others. That's when you look up reviews. When people give it a one star and they say really stupid things about it. They're only stupid when we disagree with them when we agree with them genius so. You might agree with this one there's one star reviews. So after go to to just one. Yeah fantastic. The one you give it one star said, five minutes in the camera operator digitally moves the comer around to simulate action is all join a phone call to mommy is just horrible. Agra digital maybe I can't tell the difference or number two who this guy gives it to turn. If he doesn't have allow one turns that means people actually liked it. But this last week you also didn't find a lot of ones for something or was it the week before was? Yeah and you did you find a lot. It seems like there are they changing their little algorithm or something This guy says, this film was completely overcooked and half-baked isn't that? Opposite than. My God it. While the lead actor. Who Played Daniel Ligi was solid and Jim Guff again was enjoyable on the screen. The rest of the cast were drain especially all of the police officer roles halfway through the film we knew it was a good but somehow felt committed. Yet. We will simply watching actors play their roles instead of being immersed in the story open miraculously turnaround in the third act. It doesn't. There's absolutely no reason. This story required one hundred and thirty five minutes to tell and certainly does not deserve two hours plus of anyone's time breath take a breath take a breath i. mean I feel like the cops were extra. You but that's right. You know what I mean. I did say the one guy the one that you said looks like he was like as Ambi- Really Thin Guy. Yes. He was a bit theatrical as in tug at the pants and looking little tough kind of like seventy S. You know cheap take on A. Clint Eastwood movie or some Guy. What do you mean acting wiser more quiet. About that, I just think that he felt a little bit theatrical. He's trying to be too tough and too. I don't know but not not so much that it made him. Ruin. Anything for me. This guy says. The music was too loud. And I got motion shit signals from the shocking of the camera. Yep Yep, join the glove, and in this next guy says, this movie was not worth six, nine, thousand, nine, the camera work is on steady throughout making it very striking. They hired an all tour to do the cinematography. I think even amateur, but he spelt wrong. Now I think I'll tour mean somebody who still snobby and trying to do it cinna magically but not quite pulling it off. The final guy says, join the film the camera was shaking, and then the music was too loud. Acting is very poor. There's a button. Control the narrow down new order's blue. Monday. which is one of my favorite songs hot dot in the middle of the movie. And it also had another song I really like. in the tonight by Phil Collins Ter-. So did awesome. Cool movie time Kinda gave you a little space in time feeling there. You knew right away when it was, Yup. So I was impressed with the music choices. So conclusion I'm going to give this a solid six out attempt. Six it's not super high. That's right above the middle I think is the correct skull for this. I'll give it a seven right because I think it's better than average. It's not approaching greater anything, but it is I would recommend it to people that I know would enjoy. The whole of it. Nice works said talk. Thanks thanks very much only. Thank you for. Senators, the movie paramount much enjoyed it. Maybe, recommendations I am going off the back of this movie a film with Josh Hartnett directed by Robert Rodriguez the faculty to that one Excellent movie is a horror movie set in a high school. And? You don't know if you saw it. Did you I think I've seen it. It might blended in with like the Fan Swim Fan and the facts aromas times is a cool horror movie in high school Joe China's faculty. Alien on one of my. Own Movie. On my other one is probably my favorite prison movie. About being in prison in another country and it's midnight expressing. which is from the Nineteen Seventies. Unpleasant is still an excellent movie. And Yano minor have recommendations this week. Last week I didn't remember I was blank. A very rare but I don't have something to add. So this is we decided I'm just going to go down the rabbit hole you go on. Because I always go there and Click on the movie that I've seen you know for the week and then Excuse me. Hold on Oh. No, you're not boring me late I wasn't playing. How what are your quite the detective? Why were you of late as I play Gordon I'm working on my video project It's a big one. Have you got editor sleepiness? I don't know what that is. I think you have normal non sleepiness I just yawned because I probably need more caffeine. Moving on to the recommendations inside to go down the rabbit hole this time I went. To put in that I watched this movie, then it clicked on thing then clicked on clicked on thing and boom I made it to Farscape, which is a TV show that I actually enjoyed like a sci Fi. You know some might say in the world of Star Trek but it's not at all. It's its own thing humidity star trek ripple About rip off. But if you watch it and you'll love it, you have to admit there's some. Similarities I mean it's fiction in space. You know. I live I haven't watched the very last few episodes maybe. And then that I click click click and then realize the lady who's in that is also in pitch black which was quite a good film back in the day serve instance of diesel events them diesel but this lady was in it I didn't realize one of the main lady from Farscape is also in pitch black. pitch-black was pretty good. Is One of those indie type sneaks up on because we didn't know anything about it does Watson like, wow. That was awesome. Yeah. I. Really like it, and I'm also a big fun of the sued maybe just called Riddick. the one way is on that planet. Not, the second one's a bit ridiculous I didn't really like the second one gets. The seconds the one on that big spaceship. Yeah, and it's real ground is trying to be like some epic. Yet I I prefer it when light addicts like trap somewhere, and he's like gotta use the Shinai thing to see stuff and all the creatures are coming. For. The first movie and I think it's the third movie or it might be a fourth maybe but there was another riddick movie. Is it the fourth one? Not sure. There were both has a video game, the walls, the video game was called escape from butcher bay and it was fantastic. It was you know when they make like video games based on movies in the usually just awful. That was actually one of the one of the UN pair stereotype but okay is is if you've played enough video games, you realize that movie titans are usually trash but that one was very good. So what else have you got pitch-black, farscape? Am I supposed to have more than to note the heck is happened around here games and Ascoli stuff I've been playing more of the avengers on the PC is the crystal dynamics. avengers game for Marvel So a finish the campaign now. So done the story of Ms Marvel. There is plenty to do when you finish the campaign because like of Said, last week is like in the destiny template. So, there's a, there's a table the come up to the in the avengers ship. And there's a bunch of emissions on the table and they're all that you can play them online or you can play them offline. So. You can play this whole game without playing the game with anybody else. It gives you like you always go in bunches of full. So I feel the hope it'll just fill in the roster with three compete controlled characters you follow you around and help you. All you can do online and the three people can be real people but I find it. If they're real people that kind of more of a hindrance because they all want to do their own thing. The, I is just falling in those people. Yeah. I'd rather not with the people and just play my own, but it's really fun. You get loot after each mission and the the the thing is to level of character and get the best loot, which is exactly what destiny is. An even feels like destiny down to the Menus where you have to scrap all the items that you don't want, and then it converts them into currency that you can use to buy different items. And then on the on the both the avengers Hell Ikaria, there's little stores where you can buy like cosmetic items. I'm not talking about buying real money you can buy them with the in game currency. You can buy with real money if you want but I don't see the reason to in this game because none of the cosmetics of does you any good it's just you know new skin for black widow or whatever. But it is fun to play. It's It's like destiny, but you're not shooting anybody it's It's also like if you're a fan of Diablo which is. that. That's a top down game but you're running around your beat in the enemies and you get loot. Is thought scenario. So if you like those Luke Type Games and I know they call those games Luta shooters but that would be wrong in this case because he's shooting. Unless you black widow she can shoot but mainly she's fighting with karate moves and stuff. So I'm SEO vendors it's on all the platforms and they keep adding new content every week, and what they've said with this game if you bought the the main game. Which you probably have your fun of Marvel, all the Dale see and everything for the whole life of the game which they're saying these two to three years. All of it is free. There is having to buy something else like destiny did so I'm done with that 'cause that's cool. You can switch even if you get fed up of it, you can stop play and then come back to a few months later and there's a whole bunch of new stuff to do so. That's the way to go I think. This Friday. There's a new St- owls game coming out of Star Wars said talk have. Yeah well, this year star was game from EA because they know of the license to McDowell's games is staue all squadrons but you heyday I liked the style was games the EA of the love hate relationship. Yeah. I still placed of they make. But a style squadrons. Is from EA and it comes out this week and it say dogfights you know you're in a tie fighter or an x wing. And Its missions flying you're not running around on for your all in chips flight, which there aren't too many games like that these days. So I'm kind of into that. And the thing that's very uneasy way you know and I said a hey ea with the micro transactions while they've said about this game is there are no micro transactions everything that you can get. Like Skins, etc are all earned with by playing the game? There's no actual spending. Any more. Cash to buy stupid things. which is very UNAI, but I think maybe a London lesson at some point. On maybe the just US select titles to look good. You know. Like, they're not gonNA take the microphone sections out of modern football probably because they make them millions of dollars every year. The style was game is is not yet next Friday. and. I'll be flying around shooting at the death staff show sounds really cool I. Know you will yeah I mean. I like pilot Type Games you know where you're flying around. Especially in space and star wars added onto the top of it makes it extra cool for me. So style squadrons is out. Late, next week. So, what's for dinner said talk what do you want impossible whopper from Burger King and there's a commercial has very specific. Okay then we will have that commercial. We're only telling you this, and if you listen to us every week, can you gonna be bored with what I'm going to say but we say it because we're vegetarian we've been vegetarian since. Two, thousand, nine and We're still alive. We're not health freaks were not animal rights activists begin vegetarian. We just don't eat the dead animals. We still do some dairy but not much. You know when you think about it. I mean not much to some people. It's like Oh you know any is too much but it's a lot less than it used to be. We have a we rarely we have some cheese and so we had the cheese on the Burger. Subway Jimmy John's but I don't. When you have the pizza you have no cheese. And I don't even find it that delicious anymore, I mean. It's really scary because I'm fifty two and I've loved cheese my whole life. You would be able to know this by looking at me and now it's just killing. Whatever? So we just vegetarian and that's it. So we have an impossible opera every week because once they started selling them and making them in our town. It's just fantastic. Delicious. We also been trying hellofresh for several weeks and we liked it and then we watch try different ones. So we've tried that purple carrots one. Yet no, I mean it's on. We'll have it this week. Next. Week, we'll be able to tell you what purple carrots like even though we're not sponsored by any of these, you know which if our book care would like to give me some freebee boxes for telling the truth if it's Shitty Elza Shitty Purple Kara is actually like hellofresh public actually a Vegan. One. Is it Vegan or vegetarian. Vegan okay. So they're actually specialists in Vegan meals whereas hellofresh. Have a couple of selections of Vegetarian, but they don't do Vegan. Right but we tried blue apron and they barely had anything. Yeah we were going to try blue apron for a week and then we realized that they only had two meals that we could choose and we saw what they were basically saying was we'll send you three meals. Two of them have to be the same. which was like, what can't you come up with three vegetarian meals a week, and if you're opposed people eating fast food or using these services for the a box and then you prepare it, maybe you are snotty about that stuff we don't care. It was you want. But we're just telling you you can vegetarian and not be skinny. You're skinny. I'm not skinny you can be vegetarian and not be an animal person do not even bring an animal in my house I'm not going to eat them but I'm not gonNA cuddle him either. So you know we're. We're I'm a was called mini `Nigma you're a heartless woman. I'm heartless woman won't eat any animals anymore. You won't eat all pet animals and I did make some homemade barbecue sauce have been on a kick lately making some homemade stuff I dried some fruit. Canning stuff and I'm actually really loving it just when this video project is done. Venom really gonNA. Go to talent but I made that barbecue sauce yesterday. Oh, it's going to be so good. I don't know if you'll like it but we'll see. I did try the pickled UH. Beets Yep Wells. Did you pick carrot carries you? Animated. CARROT CAKE I'm a big fan of pickled vegetables and we are loving that too. So Hey, experimentation with the veggies. So what is your advice advice denied is today tonight whatever whenever you're listening to this. I have a hard. Being told what to do I. Don't know if you've noticed never known. It's been what twenty, twenty, twenty plus years. And I remember telling you specifically, we met on the Internet by the way in one of our very first conversations just so you know I'm difficult. Now you can interpret that however you want but I am not. Easy to get along with I just I'm not. It's it's. Woven into the fabric of who I am I, embrace it. I don't have a problem with it. You're married to it. So myself. But one of the things that I'm learning as we get older is that in life sometimes you do need to follow you need to follow sometimes to learn you need to follow sometimes too. For some type of order in different scenarios, you know I'm not an anarchist by any means that I'm also not a regimented lay down the law everyone must behave a certain way I M Y I'm way far from that. I might even in the middle I'm if you had to put me on a scale be closer to anarchy but not anarchy 'cause. I don't know that doesn't work but. Sometimes. In Life, you have to follow I have to follow someone's lead to teach me how to do the canning and the gardening. I have to follow my mother's instructions to tell me how to make her scalloped corn. I have to follow someone else's instructions to tell me how to grow a tomato plant right I have to follow. It worked to be trained to understand how to do things. What I do not ever need in my life is to be led. Right, you can be a leader without. Putting a chain around my neck like a lead like a dog lead and leading me down, which is basically like my image in my head is dragging me along right I'm not following you. And you're not being. Leader. You're just expecting to lead me along or drag me along behind you. That is never never never because I I shouldn't say never because if you're in the military or in some situation where if you're an Emergency situation you have to do all of the above you have to follow you have to lead you have to be led to get things done. So everybody survives right that part a separate del, but in life. I do not need to be lead. On how to understand my job? I do not need to be lead on what to believe I. Do not need someone to lead me or course me or like give me the little fingers like over here. Come over here. Let me lead you down the right path UNINDO. Now, if I choose to follow that is on my that's on me. If you tried to lead me along that's on you and I'm not going to do it so. That's no advice just A. One of my mediocre observations. I also. Would like to recommend raised by wolves again. Hbo Max I'm on board with that we're got. To episodes left and is very, very, very, very, very, very good is very, very good. I. Agree. Yes. So definitely, watch that one. So. You can catches on ICICLE DOT COM twitter facebook. Google play is the podcast I tune spotify tune in RSS feed iheart radio. All those places are school dot com click on the episodes of Podesta's listened to it the email escalate eighthly Qamdo you know don't she hates all of you don't hate anyone you also. I don't anyone except the guy, the character in this movie, he's Gross Glenn Pick. Stay, classy Glenn Picker. From this movie. Not. Classy. Glad starting off blessing. Yeah. Ended up browsing. And I'm going to say think for yourself or someone will definitely do it for you.

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I Really Dont Care A Lot, Do U? (with Roxane Gay)

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I Really Dont Care A Lot, Do U? (with Roxane Gay)

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I don't know if you've heard about them but you can trust them for anything integrity Golden things and alcohol so it was actually recording this podcast from the yacht that he was just gifted hollywood foreign press association lewis the executive minister of music. I am now proud about owner. Okay but then they did have an artistic person working on the movies. I was good. She had a good halfway into it. I was like stop. It's and it's love it's love. I actually forgot that the globes were this sunday. Lewis and i are fully going on. Npr this week to talk about the globes and in my mind. What are you going to talk about it in my mind. I did not even think. Oh we're having this convoy about the globes because they're this week. Oh just a vague. I is there there somewhere him. I'm having the realization as we're talking about it too. I thought we were talking about it because of the scandal. But it's coming this weekend really. Is i feel bad or feel bad. I'm excited i guess for the writing staff who now has to write ten to fifteen jokes about everybody being paid off so i guess if you write for the golden globes you're already writing those jokes because their whole thing is there in on it or whatever right we'll get But it it is sort of weird how they are very corrupt institution that just acknowledges that they're corrupt. Yeah it's like the judging on. Whose line is it anyway. The points don't matter before we get this episode started. I want to point out that. I i remember the third host of the view. Do not know win where i can get vaccinated ended up sets it's not looking good. Meghan mccain is reached that s chalan of people who when they're trending like twitter needs to be rebooted appears morgan as looks like why. How is this happening. It was a week and a half ago. She was last time my feed because she snivel the words. My father as somebody else made a wonderful point. Okay but i might be with him over. Dr fauci don't need to be seeing him every day. I'm tired of that man. i'm tired. You're tired of all the hard work he's doing. Yeah i just wonder you know this man has been around for so many infectious diseases and outbreaks. When are we going to start asking. If he is the problem. Right dr fauci patriots shiva. Man dr fauci. maybe he. Maybe he was out. There creates in the field. Maybe he came up with sars. You think he's just behind some test tube sprinkling things in and cackling and stuff he's like it's the intro sequence to power creating mass illness i was gonna call. Dr blight for captain planet. I loved doctor blade. She was the woman hair over her. I women with over one i. There's not that many of them in popular culture veronica lake. Dr blight that might be. I also think meg ryan could play. Yes oh my god remember how. Celebrities voiced people on captain planet including neil patrick harris star of its said uber. Yeah we're going to talk about. It's a sin this week. Which does reveal that. Dr fauci was behind aids bill. He's been doing in the finale. So yeah yeah. Just a theory. But i love i love this pseudo history you know suggestive history as it were right if you squint. He's actually at the bar all the gay clubs in every scene he's there. He's queuing laser beams. Main character in perestroika. Oh thinking at each other we are going to talk about. It's a this week we're also gonna talk about the hottest movie to hit net flicks in quite some time. I care a lot. Which by the way i was set up to like i was i was already to be into this movie and then the movie had other plans. I mean it's rosamund. Pike in a bob thought that we you know made an agreement here netflix. This is supposed to be good right. And then of course. The golden globes are embroiled in scandal as usual. But this is more scandalous than normal. Yes emily and peril if you and we will be joined by the very fantastic roxane gay to talk about her new masterclass but also to talk about reality. Tv right yeah. Because i was involved and also they share that so let me love ourselves some bravo. Also if you know roxane gay from one type of writing you can check out any other type of writing and she has done that to truly. Truly unlike grohl witnessed the poetry slam. Yeah it almost feels like a betrayal when people know how to write in more than one way like. I can only do a joke that ends in one hundred forty characters. I don't wanna see me go into a paragraph space. Meanwhile she can do it all. We'll talk to her about doing it all and having it all as i believe women can do very risky of you. I don't know you're going to out of ideas and people's heads. She is sarah jessica parker in. I don't know how she does it. One of the great movie posters sort of like. I don't know either all right. We'll be right back All right so it turns out that there was a death this week that we have to talk about As usual only this time it is to it. is the death of daft punk. Oh i i thought for a moment we were going to have rush limbaugh conversation that i didn't know it was going to happen to hear about two more rush. Actually r i p rush. He was an inspiration. I mean somebody was going to brainwash my aunt. It may as well be that bastard. No i meant that my little french electronic duo daft punk is no more those very sad news. Yeah even though. It's not like they been doing much. Since the tron soundtrack though they were also the living embodiment of the tron soundtrack. So you wanted them around. They kind of were like the even cooler version of someone like moby which is to say you always were hearing their music always a commercial of some kind and then they themselves had a sort of mysterious presence and f- for example when they won the grammy for album of the year. That was like the perfect confluence of things the grammy's wannabe which is cool. But then also you would definitely here get lucky at a wedding so nobody alienated by the coolness right. And also they've been around for so long it almost feels like you're a warning a legacy artist right Yeah 'cause i was listening to defunct homework back in high school defunct was that's the one that was remixed with. I think like a prayer at some point which some reason i heard constantly growing up. Maybe it's because. I downloaded it and liked it off. Kazaa 'cause off for sure it is i can picture the font on the kazai download. I feel like a lot of my relationship with daft. Punk has been learning about them after they came into. Maybe my pop culture awareness after connie westbrook front so i thought harder better faster stronger was a kanye west song and then going back and discovering. All these albums of some of the dope was music. I've ever heard like remember. After they won the grammy in two thousand thirteen. I it just went back. And i haven't been able to stop listening to their albums if it's not new music. I consumed punk every day. Game of love my favorite track. I think because it was awarded you know and like get lucky was everywhere right and it was also sort of that era where ferrall even became like the old guard which makes sense because he looks like a character from the old guard. That man is ten thousand years old but random access memories as such a really good album you know and the tron soundtrack is amazing too and i will admit i have not seen either tron which is which is weird for my brand but maybe tad i know i would say it's not actually there. It's the kind of thing where the feel of. The movie is classic and specific. But i don't know that people are utterly obsessed with the content of either movie. Especially now i mean if you're talking about the legacy of jeff bridges i mean. I would go through ten other movies before you got but also about random access memories. I know what my specific grammy memory about that. As taylor swift almost getting out of her chair when they start to say rat and she thinks they're about to say that again. Of course you would pick up a second one. I'm thinking how pivotal watching the one more time. Music video was and all the graphics animation and thinking. Oh god between daft punk and the guerrillas. My favorite music videos to ever existed. I always think that the guerrillas are french to just because the first time i discover the guerrillas on my on my freshman year of high school trip to paris and i heard them in a music store saw video. They're on like french. Mtv in the hotel. I became obsessed with them there and my i was thinking because i i love a love a french music group. You know i love air. Okay yes true. Yeah we don't talk about them as much anymore. Eras very like what would be number three on pitchfork year end list from two thousand one or from less giving you sexy lounge music. Yes quite Which is wild because that is what death park descended into. They started out very much. Like we're giving you futuristic music. And it's like they've influenced so much of the electronic game since then their albums descended into nostalgia for the era and influences that they had random access memories has that song with giorgio moroder the king you know and then it's weird to think about them in the context of nostalgia because i was already getting that nostalgia last year because it's from one of my favorite scenes in i may destroy when arabella sitting on the beach with her talion lover. And there's something about us so it was already clicking like a nostalgia twinge in my brain and i think now that they're gone that music will start to reflect that way interesting. Leeann them breaking up was a necessary step in a reunion album. So let's just get to where we need to be for the next project to now. Yeah you're right. it does feel. It does feel like when people break up maybe earlier than you'd think they would is because later there will be a joyous revival of some kind. This is a pollyanna optimism. My part this is awesome. He's speaking out to ariane get it together and come back so people are very of the mind that like they never wanted to be like a museum piece. So maybe they won't come back but We'll see it. Anything can come back do like a speaker. Box love below type collab- album give us separate understandings of their music. And see how it can coalesce. But who i don't know we'll see. Years is a long time that is true. You know who is a huge part of random access memories. By the way that i always forget about paul williams who wrote like We've only just begun center songs and like the they could roll him into this album. Like really spoke to their like musical literacy too so Look paul williams. The carpenters did a sorry to bring this back to the carpenters away. Yes they did. A medley of paul. Williams's songs on the carol burnett show with carol burnett ones look that up greatly And one of the songs that julian casablancas as ever saying on that album. Oh yeah right he wrote rainbow connection to macho. Yeah or the muppet movie. Oh that's so cute. It's a great song right. Lost the oscar to it. Goes like it goes from norma ray which. I would argue as a better song. You can fight me on twitter about that one. I'm avail grad to miss that in other sad news. I did watch the netflix film. I care a lot starring rosamund. Paik this weekend there. That's what i wanna know is. Should i care a lot. Should i now go watch this movie. Baby this movie. It is wild. It has actually been quite a long time since. I've seen a movie that i was so angry at in the midst of watching it and the whole time to i would say there's not a part where i'm like. I'm in for right now. Except for when diane weast retinue rosamund pike by the way. Diane waste in pissed off mode underrated. I found that commanding and also we never get to diane. We movies in a year and now we have this and let them all talk. Look at i mean. The last thing she did was that god damn movie. The mule she to deal with that scarecrow clint eastwood. She's also one of the best parts of let them all talk. Yeah very funny very kansas very funny too. So definitely if you want to skim for the parts where diana salty great however it is really brutal to get into the movie because it's about a woman who takes advantage of people and basically forces them to live in elder care facilities were and then she then takes all of their stuff and money and then she has run with the mob. Because diana's connections to the mob. And i would say both sides of this equation rosamund pike scammer and peter dink lidge the mob person are cliches of cliches and next thing them up is not an entertaining so so like not fun to watch either of them. Peter jinks character really descended into like wacky mob. Cliche you know like mag. we've already got smokers. My god you just brought me back to. When i was an ra an honors floor. And i was like. I'll put on any movie. You want for the fucking movie night and these losers chose smoking aces. I am still mad. You ernest louis. We love it. You gotta put on smoking aces. And i was like i guess. Believe you what at that time i was like we watch vera drake. I would give anything. I'd give anything to watch. You have to deal with a bunch of college boys. And they were all named justin. Yeah smoking in the boondocks. Aides were a set kind of movie that straight way. College boys always throwing on totally. They were like way too violent and way too vulgar but that's it that's what they liked. There's there's there's no upside. Meanwhile i was the only one over here standing lucky numbers. Levin how are you my brother mark. He loves josh hartnett. He always has my heart. Okay whenever i leave a workout class. I am embarrassed for being irish and polish on the sweatiest person in the room. But when i'm leaving the room. I tried move my hair into place like i did it on purpose. And it's always going for a josh hartnett late nineties photo shoot. Look i thought you were gonna say that we're never going to work our class. You're thinking of the josh hartnett harrison ford seen in hollywood homicide where they're yoga. I have not seen that movie and you have inspired me. Every that reminds us of a rabbit that does not even make our roxana interview but she talks about watching the movie paycheck. And i'm like yeah. It is from that era movies that came out when lewis and i were specifically in high school. And i think we've talked about this before where you would because you were in high school and in the mid west you would see any movie every weekend because what else are you going to do. So it's like oh this is out. Oh i gave it one star guests. I'm still seeing it right. Nothing could dissuade me. It could be february just the worst time of the year. I still the worst movie. That people fucking love. We'll move on from this conversation. I'm sorry is rat race. That movie fucking sucks. I'm people argued about rat race. Or i'd say on my mind i don't think of the show just said person i think it also supports my theory that queer people like to sit in dark rooms regardless of what's happening right constantly. Finding theater alight room just anything that is dark of i will point out that yes it's interesting to have a character like rosamund. Pike who is sort of like morally questionable. I love villas female characters but this character like goes beyond villainous to there's no nuance you know. It's almost like a wanna be. A nurse ratchet kind of character but there was something so chilling about not really knowing nurse rachid's origins in the film and also wasn't the main character right and you know she's evil and you're not asked to sympathize with her unless you're watching ratchet but this i'm just like am i supposed to care about her because she's like licking this other characters box like you find out. She is being that the real thing about her like we need to make her redeemable. Make our eat policy. That's what happened okay. Good instincts move. It's a classic move but you're right like because rodman does the evil things such a straight face that's supposed to count as interesting character nuance but all it is is she's horrible. That's okay yeah and not even in the way that like amy is horrible but in an interesting way in gone girl right at least at the beginning of that movie you think one thing about her and even if you have suspicions turns into is not what you expect. This is you. Don't learn anything about her. Basically and when she does talk about her upbringing. The in it's like this is lazy. Yeah well it's written by someone named jay blake's in who is just eight old english man so i don't know what we expected for these complicated female characters. What's interesting is if it were a man there would be. It would be so cliche. There would be so nothing to this person. You would wonder why there was even a movie about it. I also want to add that brosnan. Pike and the roles she's playing. It's sort of like we're treating her like leftover jessica chastain in then we give her smart lady rose like she's played marie curie like very progressive women and then also slyly evil women. And i feel like jessica chastain kind of does both those things but by the way i definitely prefer rosamund pike roswell has has a kind of i don't wanna say gravitas but i do want to say weird intensity that is genuine. I would say it's interesting. That you brought up jessica chastain because for rosamund i feel like a film like crimson peak is definitely a sweet spot for her that i would love to see her. Yeah oh totally. Yeah we need more action stuff for rossum and degrade this weekend also got into. It's a san on. Hbo max the british series which finally hit america from russell davies the creator of queer as folk. I want to point out an idiot. 'cause in my brain. I kept delaying watching it. 'cause i kept thinking. Oh my god. This is the creator of queer as folk thinking the creator of the american queer as folk. What the fuck about to be watching no british queer as folk which was quite and good. And it's was. It's a really fun. Show that i will recommend it's weird. Call a show that is about the aids epidemic with some like eighteen year olds in london. And how they progress through the eighties and into the nineties. But i think the overall theme of this show. And that's hit. In the finale of it too it's only five episodes. It's just that We always get these stories about people who've lost their lives from aids. But what people really want you to remember from that era is just like how fun life was for gay people back then before this happened I some of the show reminded me a little bit of sex education in the way where sexual discovery is treated as kind of a quaintly fund. thing you know. There's a wholesomeness to the discovery. Even though you associate this era with growing up too quickly and you know morbidity et cetera. there's i mean this show just makes you want to grab all your queer friends and hold them and hug them and kiss them and you remember that very specific moment. there's an actor in it. He plays colin. His name is callum scott howells. He's the welsh one who works in the. You know the the tweed shop so fucking so good at so cute. And i had to look on instagram. Like ask a friend. Is he gay. And then i realized wait. The gay actors in the show are gay. Played by gay people so that that was like. I don't know why that was a shock to me in two thousand twenty one but but still it's like give them nobel prize traumatized. Okay your ears but he. There's a scene where he is finally at the house. Queer home that they've created and you see the wonder in his eye of seeing all this community in love and it just reminded me of those feelings of the first time that i saw represented right in front of me and it's beautiful. It's nostalgic oh definitely a beautiful montage where you see him like going from party to party on taking in you know like what everyone else has sort of discovered And nour's you know a moment like midway through your you learn. You know like his sort of queer origins It is it's it's so sweet and a really beautiful watch. I would say the best part of it is the acting in the direction. The script is a little there. But okay lydia west. This girl who plays jill. I need her. i need her. I needed to be cast in every single movie. This girl tessa thompson. Scoot over. I'm sorry there can only be one line. Currently she's the british on it makes me want to go watch years and years which. I didn't wanna watch this because people kept saying. Oh it's so depressing. And for the trump era you know. And i was like. I'm not trying to do this right now but i feel like now you know that we're in Biden's america what else am i going to do. While i'm waiting for my check is truly. What did you think of this show as a neil patrick harris renaissance. No like i like. I like neil. Actually i love. I love his. This was a bit too. He was a character from the ryan. Murphy version of it's a sin and everyone else is in a different show. Yeah he plays it farkash. Which that's what the character is but it does run slightly in and i know this is something neal's probably obsessed with murder mystery acting you know from dressing to the posture to the camp of it and not the people that don't exist but it was nancy reagan with aids the palm. All this to say though. I was so refreshed to see the aids crisis happening in london and their view of people in america like there are the scenes where they're just like well just don't have sex with the boys in new york and you'll be not a british accent but that stuff was hilarious to me. Genuine fears that they had and they were totally justified. Because nobody knew what the fuck was going on with aids in a friend liebowitz interview. Recently she talked about how people thought you got aids from poppers which people in just an all sorts of strange ways back. Then if you don't poppers. I'll explain them very quickly ammo nitrates. They're like these sniffly things and had sex specifically if you're gay but anybody can lewis right used as like a party drug a party inhalant gay with yes. Yeah okay with and people would put them on bandanas and like putting them in their mouth. Inhale them that way to which is very extreme. But i've been sort of in the mix of like this eighties like gate nece. I was reading. Lanford wilson's burn this earlier. Yes it's just nice to see sort of a fun. Different adaptation of what was going on in that period. And i do wanna point out. We talked about callum in libya. But i know ali alexander personally from years and years and you lucky son of a bitch i was like i did not know that he had this in him. I was right lord. He is amazing in this show. Like truly amazing. And i really think directing acting elevate the material and because the story itself could sometimes be a little quaint and trite. But you keep being brought back to the emotion by everyone else involved and it is. I really recommend this show. Quick non tomar. Douglas who plays i haven't believing is a west african character. Who leaves his home. Yes yes i mean. Sometimes i get frustrated with those story lines that are like oh the black one is from household where they have to strike the game out of him getting frustrated by those but right for that experience is pretty real so i have no choice and the stuff with his father Ends up actually being like something that broke me so as well. Yeah and it's just it's nice to see this embracing sort of this new era. We've seen of storytelling Where you know sort of like Hiv positive people are telling their own very interesting stories. And i would say one complaint is I guess it is london. But you know it's like a lot of white people again and like less women than you would expect a men. There's always that one saintly woman character who helps which is true. Sharon glass dieter always been the little haggle less three dimensional than you expect because she has to be sort of selfless right and she doesn't get to be full character. I would say you know but it makes me love. Like the rating people like george johnson and like the palms of like Donna smith seeing people writing them out. People of color in the president who are living with hiv Those stories so that's what this show excites me about. Sorry to say one last thing. What excites me is. We'll finally get to see movies about aids and hiv where the black characters get to die if that makes sense because it's not right now they don't ever get to die. They their white friends die because like the white creators. Also like i can't kill the plaque i can't kill the black can have them do is be like the local drag queen and singer. I feel love or know like some other like stephanie mills song to the white cast members. Yeah yeah they can be the prey tale of the show. And i also just want to give a shout out to the literal bodies on the show because sometimes when you watch like stuff about this period like everybody is like still ripped. 'cause we're in twenty twenty one like if you watch the normal heart. People are muscular in a way that did not really exist in nineteen eighty-one mad bomber. You ain't got no aids whereas when i watch. Oh i feel like. I'm in nineteen eighty-one a it's felt felt. Louis they have. You're bill is what i feel. Yes act more representations important what am i what does that. Make me endo more the where you just gain weight. I think that's what an end morph is supposed. Yeah i'm the the ghost from ghostbusters jones. Once again i love slammer so much very funny and fun in the cartoon Yes well while that was going on my eighties. Experience was an obsession with the ghostbusters. I had the ghostbusters house. Where you would pour slime on the top. And that's my eighty s documentary. I just had a portrait of anti pots. 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Everybody's thankful kind democratico capitalistic. One of the two. Well congrats on both fronts. Fun to be able do it because people often ask. Can i take a class with you. Which i am flattered by but generally know a great way to sort of let people take something resembling a class in a realistic way where you can't necessarily Enroll at the whatever university. I happen to be teaching honestly. I wish that i could have taken like my grad school classes. Like this because i was watching the masterclass yesterday. And just like letting you just go our you know. I'm just like lying in bed watching it and it was like this is a perfect way to take a class. Yes it really is on at your own pace just which are also you look great in it to this. The leather jacket. Yes it's all really working. Yeah you know. The interesting thing about master class is that they film their classes. Like they're filming a movie or television. Show so i had a stylist and i had clothing options and they had a makeup and hair crew. And so i was like okay. I can do this because some film and television. They're like we're not really gonna do much and you're going to look like shit. The answer i think you and the is gorgeous to with all the papers. Suspended in the air remind. Yeah it is. They printed out like three hundred pages of my work and then like this hanging sculptural presentation. It was luckily so a easter egg. If you like zoom yes really buying bad feminist mess. Nobody'd right there for you. I want to ask a bit about preparing for this masterclass. You know We read your recent Interview with monica lewinsky about Writing trauma which was great. And you've also taught a class about this as well you know what goes into. I'm sitting down. I'm going to be doing a master class. And like i also have questions about like how long it takes to even do this. You know because. I imagine you're sitting in front of the camera talking all day for the audiobook down so the preparation process took about six weeks leading up to filming and they flew us to iceland my wife and i to iceland because it yeah they did because of covid and in iceland covert is under control like people. Don't even wear masks. It was wonderful. And so i we come up with an outline and they actually read all of your work and so on and watch a bunch of videos of your work and so they come up with an outline that you get to then revise and provide feedback on and you go through that process two or three times and then they start coming up with lessons and getting more specific and they just work with you until it's time to shoot the class and then we shot it in two days which was fine and fine long days but it was still. I enjoyed the whole process. And you sit across like during most of it. I was sitting across from a producer. Her name is diane house limb and she would ask me questions and i would answer them and then they put it all together in a coherent manner imagine and it really is coherent. It kind of feels like it just sat sat down for however long it took and run it to us. But it's nice that it could be so concise. I think something. I love about your master class in particular as though it's about formerly writing for social change it's also about productivity for writers and i was wondering just in the past ten months. Have you been surprised by what you are. Inspired by as a rider. Just having to i'll speak for myself i've consumed so much mundane media overtime instagram. Etcetera has what you are inspired by changed over the past ten months or so. Yes in that i used to have to really dig deep for inspiration only because i was getting a little burnt out pre covid and now almost anything inspires me because we never go anywhere and so everything is exciting everything. Oh my god. We're getting a delivery. what is it there like. We actually compete for who gets to get the mail and That's sad but that's where we are. And so i have found that i am probably more open to being inspired by more things than i was before and that is good but am i doing anything with that inspiration. Not necessarily i feel like you know what i loved about. Your masterclass was that it reminded me of what should be like the most basic tenets of being a writer sometimes. But you need to have reiterated for you that was just you know like researching and making sure you keep track of your research like why not something. I'm always thinking about. It should be but to ask you. Do you do when you feel like your relationship with writings is changing. Like you're you have to nurture it and you have to remember that you enjoy writing. What do you do. When that seems to not be at the forefront. I try to forget about publishing. And i always try to keep in my mind separation between writing and publishing because they are two very different things and so when i start to lose the love for when i start to feel like. I'm on a hamster wheel which most writers you're gonna feel like you're on the hamster wheel a lot. So i just try to write something for myself that i haven't already sold or pitched or anything like that and if there's no one waiting for it there's so much less at stake and i can just get to the enjoyment of the thing and sometimes i just step away from writing for hours or i never really step away for days but i just go and do something else whether it's take a walk around the neighborhood or watch really terrible television mobile telephone bling empire selling sunset. You know something without any virtue. And i find that to be very inspiration bring was very bad i make so bad like bless his heart the dumb one the dumb model. Who didn't have any money out of the hug him. Every time i was just like. Oh my god. I while you're so beautiful but thank god you have that because god's children i've always been and i think you know because we've talked about it like a bravo person and i've always found housewives like at least inspiring and like a good way to view. You know sort of like like you said how women are viewed by the media and use how they can be stereotyped in these times. Those shows but i truly did reach a point in quarantine. I was like you know what. I don't need to be scraping the bottom of the bravo barrau. Maybe i don't need to watch below decks sailing yacht unless i do know what you actually do. I love below deck but sailing yacht one was it was weird. It was not. I just didn't find it as enjoyable. And i'm not sure why. I think part of it was that the head stews weren't as compelling as messy and so if there's not gonna be any mess what's the point but there were also like two of the crew are in a relationship and it wasn't really fun to see the disintegration of their actual real world relationship against the backdrop of the show like it's it's entertaining when they meet someone on this show and everyone is on the same page like we're just doing this for for the clicks but when it's a real relationship and then reality. Tv does what it does is just like ooh like this. And i'll say people were just kind of boring now. I say this as a fan of the show is about to bring up but we sort of treat like the below decks the bravo type shows as the most irredeemable when really. I think it is still survivor. Big brother because it's the competitive on a show like below deck. Those people's lives right. They're not really fighting for anything it's like. Cbs has tricked into believing just because it's so popular that they're i don't know above board in some way they actually. Aren't you know they're not what's interesting about those particular shows. Cbs really tries to put this like veneer of class on their reality tv offerings. Where like there's competition and skill involved stakes are death right. We'll say i think survivor is. The amazing are not on the same level as big brother. Big brother is just trash. It's like let's find the worst people we can imagine and then put them in an artificial situation from which there is no escape and just see what happens and usually like to people of color for them to torment and vote out every time and then the edits that the people of color get are so unforgivable and it just makes me. I haven't watched big brother and probably ten years simply because the black women in particular are never treated right on that show and it is a reality show it is allie shows atlanta. The black women are treated like people. And i over at cbs. Which is where black women go to die. Now it's not good. I also was thinking recently. Why there's not ever like to queer people like to gay men or two lesbians big brother and i realized. Oh it's a live show on cbs. So if a romance breaks out they would be forced to show it. I think that's correct. I think a big part of it. I think the highlander mentality of there can be only one. I would argue to that. One point though lewis that the what i truly enjoy about the bravo shows is that they are competitive because you are competing sort of for a storyline and the audiences day so is interesting watching the people who are bravo stars once. They've figured out how to survive and become a star of the show from season to season. It is funny when you're you're not a fan of bravo shows and you just hear the vernacular like she just did that to keep her peach and you're like why is losing fruit so difficult like what's the very special peach but it's true like my parents are not not my mom watches bravo shows but my dad sort of only does it. Because he's married and it's interesting to talk about the shows with people who really are not as deeply connected with these shows or don't watch them at all. When i start to like my wife doesn't do reality tv and so when i started to explain to debbie the plot and the reason why we need to watch something she just looks at me like. Where's my wife back from. Whatever place here in. And then i just have to stop to see. You know what it doesn't matter. It's fine i did get her into selling sunset. I'm very proud of that. Bats great to take a brief detour that to you know. I think you had recently written something sharing a bit. How you at met debbie and house. She's been interested in your work of trying to get you on the podcast etc. I'm so interested especially since the other three of us are writers to like what it's like as a writer to generally have people into your work and into you as a person. But how does it feel different. And how do you know it's different when someone is into that but also pursuing you romantically. How do you know when it's different than someone just being like. I read bad feminist like six times. It means so much to me. I have to meet roxane gay You have to see if there's a willingness for them to recognize that you are someone beyond whatever they know you for a lot of times. Especially i will say this for young women and i love them. They're great but they'll come up to me at events and they'll be like oh my god we're best friends and it's very flattering. But and i try to really honor that because as writer you generally. We don't know if anyone's going to read our work. And it's writing can be so thankless and it's so think let's for so long like i spent twenty years in obscurity before anything happened in so i never take it for granted but so often i just think you actually know me. You know what you read from a book. I wrote ten years ago and thank you but like it's not enough to really be a foundation for anything other than this five minute conversation. And that's okay. You know when people like want more in the olden days. I you know i was just very hesitant because i thought it's easier for me to stick with the people i knew before two thousand fourteen because they know the real me they know like it's not that great and so i don't have to try and be anything that they might be expecting me to be because they know the real me with debbie. She was just so persistent and she never let up and it was like really attractive and for me like you have to be really persistent. Because i'll never figure it out and then you have to spell it out for me in very short words and so when she was so patient and then we had a really great first date and i could just tell okay. She's not just here because she thinks that. I am summarized by hunger. Which was the book that she particularly loved. I just i just knew. And they're just like was looking at me as me and that was really great and it ended up being the right choice. Speaking of people meeting someone based on their writing you have mastered the art of directness. And because of that i feel like i never have questions about what you have written like. The directness is the point. You know what. I mean like you said it there it is and i was wondering because directness can seem just so without craft. You don't have to do it. It just comes out of nowhere. Even though it's writing so it is craft. Is that something you had a perfect over a long period of time did being a good writer come first and then the directness or was it. The opposite i would say being a good writer came i. I been working at writing for a very long time. And i was certainly very mediocre writer for a long time. So critic say i still lab and so it took a concerted effort in my mid thirties. When i just the older i got them the less interested i am in wasting time and i just realized. Let me just be direct. There's no need to dance around this. I can write well and right strategically and write beautifully and still. Just get to the point. You ambiguities overrated. I don't need to be 'ambiguities about the things i care about. Especially when i'm writing about race and gender sexuality sexual violence. There's just no room there. I can be ambiguous about other things. But not that and so i just started to try directness and i had a day job so i just start. Whatever happens happens. I don't you know. I'm not living on this fifty dollars from salon. I'm doing what i do. And i are still going to be paid. And i think that gave me the freedom to be direct and to say what i wanted to say. Because i wasn't going to pay my rent based on how well the work was received your masterclass touches a lot on how you write about trauma and how you warn writers to you. Know make sure emotionally distant place from their trauma before they start writing about it. So they're okay. But i've also been interested in. How have you felt like let's say after it. The hunger press tour when you had to talk about it all the time every day. Did that ever retraumatize you or do you feel like you developed an apathy about your trauma and traumatic experiences. I think i developed something of an apathy simply. Because i was talking about it so much and in in in different countries even and each country would have a different type of bullshit and so i just had to become a little apathetic just to get through it. You know book. Promotion is one of the key ways that you sell books and so you really don't have a choice if you want to publish another book than to just lean into it and do what you need to do so it was challenging. Especially because i don't mind talking about buy books. I wrote them. I'm happy to talk about them. But with hunger people really showed their asses. I was not only having to deal with talking about the book. Over and over again i was having to deal with true bullshit from people who should know better. I also had to disassociate a little bit. So that i didn't completely pop off at people who i probably should not pop off at but i did popoff it going to say it's easier said than done said actor where it's like. Oh man. I'm gonna regret this but but that's interesting too because because i also know during the interview with monica lewinsky to which she talked about. How I think she walked out of the terry gross interview and you talked about how terroristic made me so uncomfortable. And you weren't expecting that. I guess that's another thing about knowing a writer right. You know i feel like people would never expect that from the directness. You seem to have on social media for instance and then interacting with someone like terri. On the podcast. How did you find that. Social media can be sort of like freeing in a different sort of way for you to write and communicate your ideas on then when you're actually writing and this is so interesting to me. Now you know being banned from. I like why do they keep betting you. It's not free. ira. That's going on a book jacket now just to has to. That's something on twitter's a mess. The person i am on social media is me in real life. I'm very quiet. And i'm very shy and i'm fine with that. I'm forty-six this who i am. It's not changing but on social media. Because i in many ways grew up on social media as an adult. I'm very comfortable. And i will say anything to anyone at anytime. I just don't care and that's frene to just and again. I always had a day job so it just didn't matter. I don't care what you think of me. I clock in at eight o'clock out at five good night and well not really those hours. But i just had my own thing going on. That had nothing to do with twitter and writing or anything like that and that was really the best gift i gave to myself. That was the right choice for me. Because i don't like to be stressed out about money on twitter. I don't know what it is. But there's something about the medium that demands concision. And i think when you really wanna get your point across you can and when you really wanna tell someone about themselves you can and there are fewer barriers than in real life. I can't tell you the number of people who talk all kinds a shit to me on twitter and then at a book signing wait in line and are like oh my god. I'm so glad to meet you. I'm so and so and so on twitter. And i'm like i'm okay jack. Thirty seven twenty four. There's none of that. Sort of balls innis or courage to be an asshole and so you know. I think like most people. It's just easier to say exactly what i want to say to the people. I want to say it to now. I would say anything. I say on twitter. Someone's face and i have but it does not come easily face to face becomes easily for me if i can type it and so twitter has done that for better and worse. But i'm trying to chill out a little bit. But i just want to say before we wrap up. I also randomly recently picked up this book on best actress winners and you wrote the forward and i just i wanted to thank you for that and just was wondering. Are you an obsessive film. Historian person or are you somebody who's constantly watching old stuff and what actors do you root for etc. I don't know that. I watch old stuff but i i love movies and pre covid. I would see almost everything in theaters. I love going to theater especially here in. La there are some really great movie theaters. i pick in westwood. I mean it's just you win. Yes little seat. They bring you little snacks. It's super cute. And so when they asked me to do best actress. I have a hard time saying no. And that's why you'll see me right. Forwards for a lot of things. You'd be like wow would not have seen that coming. Yes it's changing too cowardly to say no was best actress. I actually just love movies. And i did not write the introduction that they wanted because they wanted to do something like celebrating best actresses and i was like one woman is one one. Black woman has won best actress. Let's talk about that. And you knew who i was when you ask me to write this so i don't know why you would think i would do anything but who i am. I don't. I'm now starting to watch a lot of older movies. I had not historically watched older movies. But debbie's into older movies. And so i've been doing that and i just like following sort of actors and seeing what they might become a recently saw promising young woman. And it's interesting to see. Like where carey mulligan seems to be going with her career. And so i d like to follow what actors doing. Plus they'd never make it to the screen. I write movies. And so you know i keep. I like to stay. Abreast of what actors are doing. And who's doing interesting work. If and when we ever get to cast something. I love carey. Do not follow her to the dig. Though i was just gonna ask you if you saw that yet. I haven't seen it was. I like netflix. Keeps trying to serve that shit down my throat and it does not look appealing to me at all. Even the description to me was a nap. Just like why. Would you make this movie and then think people would want to like. Who is this four. But i know who it's four it's four laker bunch of grey haired people somewhere right something sweet and gentle but now i'm good. Thank you so much for being here. Rocks third okay. Now listen is a biweekly. Podcast hosted by scotty beam and silvio bell brought to you by netflix and strong black lead. Join these best friends as they talk openly and honestly about what's on their minds what they're binging and what's blowing up in their timelines probably me these queens have the range seriously scotty beam and sylvia very funny women and really insightful and they cover all types of different things. Everything from coming season to jasmine sullivan's hotels that got them album. 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It seems like a good time to do a deep dive into this year's nominees and the entire two of what the golden globes are. They sound like a church. Nonprofit scammers tax exempt. Yeah right classic catholic tactics. I think the number one funniest thing about the pa first of all is that i mean they're literally members of the press like their whole thing is to be outward facing the if we can agree what the press does it's getting the word out and yet who are they like they're supposed to be nothing but a byline basically and yet they are shrouded in still. So that's your first clue that something is amiss. I wanna know what ryan what did ryan murphy give them for. James corden to be up for the prom. It is eighty five people living in southern california. Who right or at least have written for non us publications and it's just sort of a random assortment of members who don't really seem to have any real journalistic or like critical careers. You know because because like you said lewis. We don't. We don't know who these damn people are. Reveal yourselves you write for. Daily mail derive for daily mail or another publication. Where you journals. It was like you're reading their work and knowing like what these critics even critically think of anything critics choice awards and you know. There was the revelation from la times. There were zero black journalists and they allow their members to behave in ways. That are unethical like The emily perez Set visit where they just stayed. Nice hotels in paris and like this. Of course that show got a nomination right. Well i think. In general people are a little bit clueless about how much money just goes to promotion on a movie or a tv show in general for example years ago i wrote for some website that no longer exists barely existed to begin with and still i could have gone to dubai to interview the cast of the fast and furious like for an interview that you watch in a video. Do i need to be in dubai for that. No but they would still throw money at me like writing. Nothing dot buzz. Yes i got an offer to like be flown to mexico to like interview the set of some movie. It's like no. I'm not doing well. I went to mexico for a specter. And i went to london for steve jobs. Wow nep czar. Wow i miss. I miss the pre pandemic journalism world. I might have been invited into. I want these. Kickbacks got sent to iceland like roxanne engage us she sends iceland for a masterclass. I got iceland like iceland glacier water once. Frightening no are you. Are you in some sort of icelandic mob now. The impresses keeping on their black people iraqi vic. I do want to say though okay. This article paint say necessary and disgusting portrait of this organization or whatever. I still think that the tv side feels way more corrupt somehow than the movie side even though Whatever the movie got nominated and the got nominated et cetera. I still feel like the tv. Nominations in general are way more bizarre. Again you would never ever remember that. A tv actor won a golden globe. Like i look back. And i'm like did jon hamm win or did it just not even coming to mind exactly all placed them. It's so little esteem over the years right. There is sort of this notion that we've always assumed or known that the golden globes are corrupt right. And it's always it's an award show. that's just what. Hp does who cares and they always make jokes about buying off the h f pa to you know but at a certain point realized that like the globe are always part of the conversation of what will be nominated for the oscars right or. It's always like it's it's a highly rated award shows so it's like movies at actors and things that people are talking about right. So if you have a certain body that continues to just nominate the same people who know like lavish them with gifts and other bribes and you know there are mostly white people you know. What does that say about. What's being introduced into the conversation. You know i think. One of the grossest things they did this year was Making minority be a foreign film yet out. Just because they're speaking created right at the oscars it specifically foreign language film which i mean sort of changes the discussion a little bit but yeah. I was just thinking about minority good movie. The ending. two quaint for me. I wish they had a different ending. Love the grass very pretty right grass the houses on wheels. It's so beautiful. Oh yeah it's very norman. Rockwell that no-man's-land had me thinking about nature a lot but the actual opening of minority and because it's eight hundred four movie. You could be forgiven if you thought that it was going to be a horror movie total. Thank god it is. It is very much like a south. Korean version of the witch set in the eighties parasite parasite hereditary came together and had a child. But i will also thank monari for introducing another young asian actor into our lexicon after barbara starr go to saddam. Now we have to hilarious little asian voice. Who are very good acting. Where's their spy kids. they're they're surf. Ninjas say the word and that'll be rebooted like be careful you'll have to write it and by the way there's already like eleven of them so is one of them shark boy. Unfortunately some of this to my ears works in the glove favor. Because now i'm like oh i get to watch tina fey and amy poehler. Make fun of this now and i. Unfortunately i'm still really excited for that. Because how often do we get to see. Tina fey cracking jokes anymore. You know that feels like this. Lost era of tv to me. Almost she hosted a tribute to broadway not long ago during the pandemic but that wasn't really her riffing about whoever george clooney as hot with. Here's the thing about the globes that i want to ask. We're all the jokes that we used to hear on like award shows like that. Did you get them. Because there's the idea that like ivory watched like tina and amy. Well the first ones right and it's like some of the jokes hit more after you're like working in access hollywood or you've been like you know like even working is like a journalist you know like a cultural critic and like you're reading more of the trades and just aware of what happens in the city right because a lot of the jokes like that kathryn bigelow one. You know about like being married to james cameron. You know like the general public. Like james cameron asshole right. Yeah maybe the kathryn bigelow the hurt locker woman and then we still have questions. Yeah i think there might be just in association with the fact that someone a director of epic movies would necessarily be a narcissist or an asshole or something in their sort of banking on that perception. How much about. James cameron in particular had gotten out by that point even as i sit here. I'm not thinking of specific this him throwing chairs or whatever. I know nothing like that. Globes raw was fun because it's part of the crowd like making jokes about one another you know on the nats the appeal of it to like. You're you're appearing in on a private party. Yeah and also i. Actually you know. I'm i've learned some sense since but i always enjoyed watching. Ricky surveys. Just maintain his position as the crotchety old hateful comedian. That will always enjoyable for me. I would have liked it more if he didn't seem above the occasion for me a lot of the time. I felt the jokes even though even if they were fun like his whole thing was. I'm not like the other celebrities like you could not be more of a conventional obsessed with us finding you call. I guess they usually have like a television actor. Someone to like making fun of like a list movie actor so that's always a benefit to yes. That's a fun dynamic to like sandra. Oh reaching over to whomever julia roberts. I liked But it is interesting. Like when you have someone like a teenager or amy read. Because i feel like snl is such an equalizer or it's like it's not like a random person in tv or film like hosting it right like if you're part of the snl cast it's sort of like you've met a lot of these celebrities when they host Right right right yeah. The nature of the show is your adjacent to illustrate anyway listeners. Don't think you're weird. Yes some something lewis. Can't say right jimmy kimmel. That's exactly the guests on the show. Where were you were. You know somewhere in a corner just here to me here. my jokes. no actually. I've only ever talked to one guest on the show because i knew him personally. That was that Like the writers don't have full access no the people. It would be so weird if we did. The wayward dressed. It's just not right land chat. Hello oh my friend was on kimmel at one point and cate blanchett wink at him. What the tho to die without memory. I'm so mad. I absolutely love her. I think i told the story before about when i profiled tyco. Td for g. q. Ragnarok cast and like you truly haven't lived until your phone rings in your studio apartment in virgil village and it's ella. Ira skate here. Take you can't see me. But i spit take and then being on the phone with chris hemsworth child. And here's a very sexy voice to slash ruling person. Truly truly hi. hey ira. It's me chris. My crocodile dundee. Oh good lord segment and all right. We're we're back keep it and we're back with our favorite segment of the episode is keep it. Keep it to this week. Mines quick and dirty and related to a show. We have actually talked about ad nauseam but quite a bit johnny-come-latelies on twitter. I am talking mainly about gay. Men who are. I'll say about five years younger than i am. Who yell things. Like all the awards at kathryn hahn on. This was going to be no list people because they've just over catherine hot. It's like okay. I loved the woman yes great. She's the other anna gassar dire but not like on a guest at all. Put that together but on this show like if you haven't seen the new division episode yet i don't want to spoil the whole thing but she becomes a much more significant character in a way and she's been the nosy neighbor and in the first couple of episodes in the vignette based tv parodies. They're doing with the format. The show it turns out to mean something totally different later on but guys what happens to her on. The show is not an acting triumph. Literally it is a plot twist that is that does not deserve emmy specifically for that. And i just want to say in general. Can we avoid just anybody on twitter or disregard the opinion of people twitter who used the phrase all the awards. What the fuck does that mean. There's not that many so stop pretending. They deserve all of them. Nobel peace prize to kathryn hahn prize. Yeah the spin. Garn nascar award. I think we should find a way and by we. I mean not me. Because i'm not the person who's saying these sort of things so you have to sort out who we. As in the scenario we need to find a way to key into the language of hard standing and get to a correct level of appreciation. For someone like kathryn hahn it jumps from zero to one thousand immediately and there could be something interesting to be said about the kinds of roles. Catherine should get in the future based on this show for example and i feel like the conversation is halted as squeeze use an old internet turn marks. You're expecting other people to have the same level of tech zoo and it shocks me every time shocks me every time. I believe it's optimistic. That's what i believe. It is and i'm going to stick with it though you're right i'm doomed. Lewis wants everyone to possess his austere restraint. You are you are mrs danvers in my head to toe black frock nodding at catherine hans talent and then moving away to the drawing room. I just wish the stands were funnier like like eighteen. Kathryn hahn like the. Barb stand dickey. That'd be funny you know go go go and docs someone in the name of catherine hahn. How about that. You're right really show your devotion. Yeah i want some context. That has a show some mastery of what she's done in the past even if it's just a couple of roles have you seen that movie. The d train with jack black. She was great net. Bring up something else. It's you know. It's like with laura dern last year do you know anything her for real anyway. Still one of my favorite moments of when. I used to be on twitter when i tweeted. After hugh won the award said this lord darned seems great. What she's in on people responding you have to see jurassic park people who follow me to come on stand enlightened. Yeah i guess. I need to come up with new keep it. Although by keep was technically to the fact that i try to avoid the spoilers for one division since it drops on friday sometimes we'll watch drag race and like Roisin i don't get to watch it until like lee the right before drag race or saturday morning just because we're working during the day on friday but civically when she becomes the more significant character this week social media like instagram flooded with like the exact scene. That is the twist. And i'm like i get it. I know that you're watching this television. Show you don't have to drop the entire scene wholesale into your story on saturday just to let people know that you've seen it right right. No the people that are most are ruining it. The people who are most offensive about being able to post immediately after an episode comes out of anything always had the least to say the people who do it on about drag race. It will literally be like so and so won. I'm like that's not a discussion. You're just saying what happened. You just to be the first person to do it. Yeah like i will never forget that. Have casey bus grays at her concert the night. That trinity and monet. One at her concert drag race is dvr and she brings out the queen's who just one drag rates. I'm like no shows airing. We're at the concert. We can't what's your keep it. wow. I'm sorry i'm so frazzled. That casey did that to you. And i'm going to go to her home. Her cottage wherever the and smashed her. Who's to qatar for you. Okay my my keep a little bit serious but it's also just rappers doing stupid shit as usual for a jewish man and calling herself. The juicy diva no. If anything that's behavior. I support the other day. I was really. I was sitting in my room thinking about who is going to be the first idiot to make an insensitive. Kobe lyric and i knew i had to come. It's been about a year since commes pass. rappers love to get the little bars off. They need to be the first one to do it. And then meek mill does a song with little courses meek mill of course it's meek mill. I don't know what what rock that man is living under. I don't know what society he's living in. I know they don't have leg machines there. He releases a song recently with the lyrics this bitch. I'm always telling me that. She loved me but she ain't never showed me. Yeah and if i ever lack going out with my chopper it'd be another koby What does that mean. First of all what does it mean. I'm really struggling to put the pieces together to. It has been a little bit over a year. Since kobe's past his family still mourning him. And you wasn't. You didn't even have the wherewithal to be clever like so disrespectful. And i immediately when people started talking about it he came to social media. Was like you guys are spending a narrative that he didn't say that that's a lot of words are you. What is this zombie land and everyone so so irradiated with him. And the best part of the story is vanessa. Bryant co the mother to jonah and kobe's widow an artist overall. wonderful woman. Said i am not familiar with any of your music. But i believe you can do better than his. Wow just sadly what i was gonna say. Sadly he can't but you know what he going bad was it. This is not the time. Let us have a moment out. Here re traumatizing people traumatizing this family. That is still grieving. The loss of their daughter and husband and father. And just it's it blows. My mind doesn't even make sense to because like oh you're disrespect. I'm gonna go out like kobe on the chopper. You mean you're going to get on a helicopter. Pilot will fly unsafely in weather conditions. Like what what. What is the leap here died. Seven people died for you to get a really cold. Sixteen that's insane. Did he really used the phrase zombie. Land yeah he really said it's like zombie land. Okay here's here's the thing. Though that is abigail breslin best credit. You need to let her have that okay. So stop. Stop throwing linda the bus to if you're going to like once again be like the barbs fun of a dead person you know. Look no better than nikki managers like. Mj's dr killing me propofol. I know they hope. I saw a bar. That's more aid. She waited the respectable seven to eight years from it. We are ready for the humor. But i'm not ready for no kobe jokes and she did it on. Be beyond track so you. Now that was cleared with joe. Jackson wrote all right. That's our show. This week i read. Did you keep it. that's mine by keeping is to stand. Yeah leave me alone. Spoiling episode later as paul drag race later and actually to the uk. Quaid's of drag race. Who drop their looks. Like thursday morning before like americans or even people in the uk can watch it on the world of wonder app. Stop it you. He is mad. I think we should actually team up on. It's more often. i feel bad. Something keeping team rocking. Oh right now. See pokemon in any way. If i'm on a dating app and someone is into pokemon in some way i'm like this can't work out between us first of all. How often do you and dating app. And someone's like main thing they presented by themselves. Loving pokemon gets us more than you think. What are the gaze up to. If you were born in the nineteen eighty-nine zone. It's probably a part of your identity and like you're talking about like grass pokemon or whatever the the groups are guys. They're mediocre cartoons. I don't know what to tell ya. You know those bottoms on grindr love to catch it all. Yeah and i have a feeling. Mu too is gay representation That's that's t keen. He did he did murder. Aura in detective pika chew that is gay history. The as revenge all right. That's our episode. Thank you to roxane gay for joining the circus. We'll see you next week. Keep it as a crooked media. Production the show is produced by carolina rested. Brian semel is associate producer. Our executive producer is higher madison. 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Bonus Episode: Regina George Q&A

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Bonus Episode: Regina George Q&A

"They. Questions that you all sent over about the Regina, George. So that was released a few days ago. I time we did this which was last Tuesday Email questions and voicemail questions. This time. We picked only the voicemail questions because it makes me feel more. Like, I'm talking to actual people and less like I'm sitting in an office by myself talking until microphone like an idiot. Let's start it. This one from New York, I just wanted to know which member would you most likely date in high school, so who high school should they and why is it crested wieners? All right. Hang up the phone the same on the air. Hang up the phone. Oh shit. We got a one calling. This might be the first time in history that a one has ever called into a podcast acid question. It's definitely the first time in history that a one has ever called into a podcast to talk about Mingas. We should fuck. And celebrate CARA. Can you do a sound effect here? That's like a bunch of applause or like fireworks going off. What listen there's no way that any of the plastics would've ever dated me in high school. It's hard for me to explain to. You exactly how dorky I was during that time of my life. I had a gigantic head. I had a tiny body. I had teeth that looked like they were in the middle of a fucking neighborhood streetfight. It was a tough time for your boy one. I could have never gotten a plastic. There's just no way if I really squint though one like if you and me are hanging out, and I'm allowing myself to lie a little bit. I would maybe say I could have gotten Karen to go out on a date with me once or twice. That's only though the only reason is because she had the lowest standards of all three in this make believe world where you and I are hanging out and just tell them lies to each other. Maybe maybe I could have gotten the date with the girl who was willing to make out with her own cousin. This question. My question for you is if the amazing Kevin not poor played by Reggie surrender were to dedicate. A rap song to Regina, Georgia and all of our. Wiegmann tosses city. What would you author of the Anjali greats route yearbook think that song would be much less? Thanks bye. Okay. There are only two reasons at a person dedicates reps onto to another person is either a I like you a great deal or B. I dislike you'd right deal. It's always a version of one of those two things. And that's why answering this question is a little bit tricky when we're coming at it from a Kevin angle because first of all Kevin is in the track to Regina. He has a line in the movie where he explains he only dates women of color and Regina George's. Not that so automatically boom that option is out of their second of all he's one of the few people in the movie who is unaffected by anything that Regina George does. He's got his own stuff going on as taken up all of his time in all of his attention. He doesn't have that extra bandwidth to devote to her like mostly everybody else in the movie seems to. I mean, he's in charge of the math leads the math. Let's go on to win the state championship at the end of the year. He's devoted them. He's a performing rapper. He's very clearly a confident guy who were at a guess assumes himself to be somewhere near the top. Or at the top. Of the social hierarchy in highschool already. So I can't talk myself into believing that he would dislike Regina because I can't talk myself into believing that he needs anything from her. So we are losing out on those two reasons that person would dedicate a song to another person. However, just because it's fun. We can look at both those sides if you want if it turns out that he actually does hate Regina. Let's say let's say that he is heard that she's going around telling everybody that joining the math leads is social suicide. That's the phrase she uses when she's talking to Katie about it in the mall. Let's say he hears that he gets very offended. He's like, you know, what fuck Regina, George this next talent show. I'm going I'm going in on Regina for the next hour. Joe he comes out. He's like, Regina. This is dedicated to you the music starts playing. He's going to play a song. He's going to perform a song. That's very aggressive as very intense. That's very disrespectful. That's very upfront. You know, what he's going to perform. He's gonna perform a song called. I hate you. Mitch I hate you bitch came out in two thousand ten ish a rapper in Houston is very regionally famous name zero. He had that song amounts. Very melodic sort of sing song. He's going to do something like that. Because we already know that Kevin g does not have a problem saying how he feels his original talent show performance. He was talking about having sex with a girl on the bathroom floor. He was in a good mood that day, and that's what he chose to wrap about. So if he's in a bad mood. He's fucking coming for throats. If it turns out that he's in love with Regina. Let's say for some reason he's courting her. He has his two week period. Where he's like, you know, what let me see what these white women and talking about over here. If if that's the case, then in easy, pick would be something like fifty cents twenty one questions that's on came on around two thousand and three which is the year before Ming girls was really popular song. It was a very high school v very college e sort of love rap song. He would definitely know about that song. He might lead on something like that. Maybe or you know, what I'm gonna change my mind that I think we know enough about Kevin g to assume that he would not pick that he would do something a little more sophisticated a little more new us. He would want to impress Regina with his ratpac Uman. He would probably reach back a bit further. He would go with something like nine thousand nine hundred. You're all I need by Mary J Blige. You remember this on really it was fucking good. Like he would probably go with that song. Or if we again, if we consider his prior. Talent over forms that we saw which was a little bit lewd. He may go with something a little more sexually aggressive. He might go with something like the Mexes. How's it going down? The volatility. The hood rep twenty fifth come into getting my Balkan. Those was he would probably go that my guess is he's going to go with one of those songs. He's gonna go with nineteen ninety five year all at need by marriage oblige method, man. Maybe fifty cents twenty one questions if he hates her than zeros. I hate you bitch. Let's move on next question. My frustration about Regina charges kind of twofold. So for me, I was a teen girl when I mean girls came out and always struck me about Regina. It was at the ways that she is people are very realistic and other than that. I'm all my classes in high school got together me apologized to each other. How absolutely school we where each other in middle school. Relation and cutting that she has he'll very realistic and evil. Are as someone who's kind of army outside of those groups of pearls. Does that read in the same kind of way that kind of realistic evilness, and does that meet teen girls better villain in high school movies? Because guys always seem to be written as like generic only whereas all have kind of just hunting nece to that and make some kind of deeper characters and love your read on mother shelves. Hey. I'm right in line with you here when you're talking critically about movie villains or when you're thinking critically about movie villains. It's easy to disregard Regina, George is easy to be like, no, she could have never kept up with a Hannibal Lecter or with a Hans Gruber or whatever. But Regina is a wonderful movie character. That's why we didn't entire episode on her. She's a smart complicated creation. She's really well written. She's totally fleshed out you watch mingles, and you go. Okay. I get it. I know exactly who Regina George's. And exactly what kind of threat, she poses. And that's really what you're looking for in a villain. She's a person who could reasonably exist in the world in a person who in all likelihood definitely does exist somewhere in the world. And that's why she's so terrifying. She's a wonderful wonderful villain and that gets to your second point. Yes, I think teen girls are in all likelihood better movie. Villains. Teen, boys. The first person you think of whenever you think about a male teenage movie villain is probably Johnny Lawrence from the crowded. Like, he's the guy who comes up when I posted on Twitter AM doing movie villains. Who should we do our posted something like that? And I got a thousand tweets about Johnny Lawrence from karate kid, and rightfully so Johnny Lawrence is this iconic figure, but Johnny Lawrence could really only destroy you in one way by beating you up. That's it. That's all that. It was after you fucking learn the crane kick, you were good. Johnny Lawrence was no longer threat. Regina, Regina, crushes people in so many different ways. Does there's almost no way to stop her except you have to fuck in the hitter with a bus. I'm with you on this. I agree with you. This question there shea love the show. Listen, so we never meet regina's father in the movie, and I choose to believe that mean girls exists within the same movie universe. As the great American. Phil take it and that Brian mills is actually regina's father from a previous marriage or one night stand with Gina's mom because obviously he does not have the best taste in women. So my question to you is how is the movie taking different if Regina is the daughter that is kidnapped right? Like phone calls, the Bainian are they just like, hey, we're gonna send her back Amazon prime style, actually. 'cause he's the worst. I just Brian like not look as hard does. He do most of Europe searching via FaceTime. I'm curious because I know you're an expert on both films, and I would love to know your answer. Thank you so much. So to recap what you're doing here as you are saying Brian meals, Liam Neeson's character from taken is Regina, Georgia's real life. Father, Regina, George. Is the one who goes over to Europe and gets kidnapped by the Bainian instead of Kim. So Kim in this setup is Regina stepsister Regina gets kidnapped. How does take in look after that part of me wants to give jokey answer. Like, ha ha Regina so bad the abeyance don't even want her. But I'm gonna give you a serious answer here. Because one of the things that happens in taken with Kim is when they kidnap her they realize she's a virgin, so they sent her to that very expensive sex slave auction place. That can happen with Regina, Regina in all likelihood is not a virgin, and I'm assuming this because there's a part where she is making out with Shane and Shane is in his underwear. This is happening at a high school there in like an auditorium like a sound booth or something like that? But if they're making out at a high school, and she's got this guy down to his underwear. I have to assume they were headed toward having sex. You don't take off your clothes to make out? You certainly don't take off your clothes to make out in a high school. That's a very advanced move. That's very we've had sex a bunch of times already move. So probably taken looks looks a little bit grimier. Remember the scene and taken when he shows up to that first place where they've got all of the women are drugged up as a prostitute house. Basically like a factory that's probably where poor Regina ends up. Getting sent. That's where Brian finds are hopefully, not dead. Like, he found the other one this question and answer session turned real dark real fast. Let's do another question. Hey, sorry. It's Karen from Denton. My question is how would you react as one of the twins or the baby the candy Aaron channels too? Regina, George when they're older and more importantly, how would the goat? React think podcast. It's awesome. The fitness often. And I'm really how did you hear more of it? Thanks. Out feel good. If one of my sons became the Aaron Samuels to a regional judge rejected the judges the most popular girl in school. If she was a person who chose one of my children to be her partner. That would make me feel like I did at least something right or if nothing else they were at least handsome, which is usually all you need to like make decent life for yourself in the world. Also, I would be proud because they are continuing the legacy of dating Mingas. I'm married. The original Regina, George. She sitting right here with me because you ask for her answer. So I went to see what she would think. Laremy? How do you feel if one of your sons ends up growing up and becoming the new Erin Samuels? Feel like I would break Regina George's legs. So, you know, no, no, no. You can't say you're gonna break child legs on podcast. You're not allowed to say that. So give me another answer. I said what I said. And I meant it. Thank you. Okay. In no longer invited to participate in the question and answer segments of the podcast. Next question. Hi. I wanted to ask when they have the school assembly in Ingles. They asked if you've ever been victimized by Regina, George measure ham and principles you fall racist hand. What do you think Virginia towards the principal Duval than they've been steals victimized? Podcast by. You know, what it was this is a dark horse theory here. I think she's the one who broke his hand he says he had carpel tunnel. That's why he's running the cast. I don't figure that was it. I think Regina, George broke his arm. I don't know how she did it. But I'm sure that she did it, and I'm sure that she laughed about it. And even if she wasn't the one who like literally broke his arm. Maybe she was there. Maybe they were all at the mall. He was sitting at the water fountain. He slipped. He fell back. He banged it on the ledge broke. And she laughed and maybe took a picture and send it to everybody. Probably sounds like that, it's probably it's probably a thing that's worse than we are intas painting. So I would go with that. I think darkhorse theory. She's the one who broke his arm. Next question. Hey shy. This is Cameron Maryland. My question was if Tina Fey was in an alternate universe in with registered for the movie mean voice, what made you thousand actors play for plastics. We already got that movie. We already got me boys that came out a few years before Ming girls. It was called fight club. Does. That's that's mean boys right there, if we're just doing a straight up gender swap reboot of mingles. But mean boys said around the same time, I think I think my cast for that has to be give me Josh Hartnett. Gimme a young Josh Hartnett as Regina we need somebody who's handsome and and slightly intimidating. We probably wanna taller guy. He's nice and tall. You had a nice Bill to him. Give me Josh Hartnett as Regina. Gimme Jay Hernandez. Gretchen second in command. Of course, give me, Freddie, Prinz junior. As Karen, I feel like, Freddie prince could do a really good job of playing a Ditz and for Katie I'm gonna throw a curveball here. I'm gonna throw usher. I want a young usher plan. Katie I feel like he could pull it off. He had a sneaky strong list of like. Cameo roles in movies. He was already in a movie with Josh Harnett. He was in the faculty he was already in the movie referred to junior. He was the DJ if I'm not mistaken, and she's all that. I think that works. You probably could swap out any of those people all never mind. I changed my mind. Josh Hartnett just got cut from the movie he wasn't holding his weight. I'm replacing him with Paul Walker. Give me Paul Walker early two thousands. And he's fucking he's gonna kill. He's gonna kill as Regina. I wanna see. I wanna see bad guy. Paul walker. That's what I want. We've seen like we've seen sweet Paul Walker. We've seen Ernest Paul Walker. We've seen kind of a little bit grimy Paul Walker. I want bad guy Paul Walker as Regina, George, boom. That's that's a cash right there. Call Hollywood let him know where remaking this in two thousand four let him know where about the bus the market open were making sixty five thousand the first week. Next question. Hi, shay. My name is Joanna. And I wanna know if you follow the takes Katya, the real villain Earls. What is her? Most honest moment is it for example, neglecting her church fence popularity or is it her Horo just other parents concern for what's going on? There's more. So do your thing. That was one of the questions we pose on the podcast is Katie the villain in mingles. There's definitely argument to be made there if we're just looking at what's her most villainous moment, I think it has to be the couching bars that she was giving Regina Regina was just trying to get fit and get ready for the dance and Katie is fattening or up like a like a pig ready for the slaughter, which is in a sense what she was walking her towards anyway, it's gotta be that anytime you're messing with another person's body be it, physical or mental. That's that's a tough spot. That's a tough thing to do to somebody. It's probably that I'm gonna go with the county in bars. Next question. This is Chris Ali from Cleveland, Ohio big fan. My question and comment, you is shouldn't regina's treatment of Janice. E N B her work behavior, or at least included on the list. Regina admits that she's best friends and earn like eighth ninth grade. And when the little bit jealous of her. He goes on homophobic, the rumor that she's a lesbian is is doing. Scooper in here. I like to think of this is regina's first board moment where she kind of takes her first step into villain loves. It becomes a horrible person that we know that. The home of there would never be eighty Aaron getting into the plastics by Janet's never wrong. So I think that. Chris. That's a really that's a really great call. I think I agree with you on all points there. I love the idea of that being as you called it her first blood moment like getting just a little taste of how easy it is to manipulate everybody and lean things in your favorite. That's that's great. That's great. Yeah. You're right. You're right. From now on Chris. Holly from Cleveland, Ohio is the new host of villains. He'll be taking over from this week forward. Congratulations. Chris way to go. Next question. Hey, Jay, this is Nico big fan. Here's my question involves both episodes of your podcast, Regina, doors, and Hannibal Lecter. And is this who would be more successful in the other person's role would Regina George be more successful serial killer than Hannibal would be as the leader of a high school clique or would handle will be more successful leader of a high school play. Then Regina would be as a serial killer. Thank you. Know, what efforts I was thinking that Hannibal would do okay and high school, especially with regards to being a part of the plastics same as Regina. He's very manipulative. He's very good at tossing Insulza people. He's very good at projecting this sort of unbreakable confidence all of those key traits. Like you've got to be able to sit in that habit. Tyrian in the middle of the most dangerous part of your high school. You've got to be able to sit there and stare down. Anybody who comes across your table? That's just what you have to be able to do when you're in the plastics. And so in my head I was thinking. Oh, yeah. Of course, Hannibal would be able to do that. But the more I think about it the more things the more things start to unravel. He's a little too intense. He's a little too weird. He's a little too serious as what he is. He'd be in the cafeteria trying to needle people. He'd be in there like Iraq sent pure West Virginia or what or whatever and they'd. Be like what the fuck you talkin about? Why is your hairline receding? Aren't you supposed to be in the eleventh grade, they would just shred him to pieces I feel it'd be a rap for Hannibal after two weeks is school. He would go out the way MIGS went out and silence of the lambs. It would be bad, Regina. However, Regina would be just fine as a serial killer. That's definitely in her wheelhouse. Next question. Hey, Shay, Troy from Texas here. So the Ming so the highschool negroes Evanston, Illinois, I grew up in Corpus Christi in south, Texas. So my question is how does this movie play out at this takes place in a predominantly Hispanic Latino high school? Thanks love the pod and go Spurs. Y'all if mean girls was with a bunch of Latina's instead of these young white women that. That's a whole different movie, bro. That's the you know that is doesn't movie the local from nineteen ninety five. Did you see this movie with sad grill and mouth fucking Zad grill in mousy? That's what Mingas is with Mexicans. You know, what Mexicans really love I'm gonna tell you Mexican's really love. We really love stabbing. We really love it. It goes like this first place for Mexicans. We love Selena second-place. The Virgin Mary. Selena finishes above the Virgin, Mary because Selena has bangers and the Virgin Mary does. This is. I blaze is Selena Sega places. Virgin Mary third place. We love beans and forest plate. Third place. We love beings and fourth place is stabbing. That's that's that's our top four. If we're doing Mexican mean girls. It would it makes me knows. We have that scene where Katie asks Regina to go talk to Amazon meals for at the party. Mexican katie's. Like, hey, can you go talk to this guy Mexican regina's? Like, all right. I got you. She goes over there. She kisses Mexican Erin. And then Mexican Katie is like oh for real. Like, it's a it's a shank. That's. This is the dumbest thing this is. This is this seems like a good part. We should end on racism. We're gonna end this bonus QNA on racism. That's the last question. I've got for you today. Keep listening to the show, and I'll see you on Thursday for another fulling deficit. We're doing kill among this week. Various if you oughta hear it.

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Hannah Ann Sluss, Kelvin Hayden & Dame Judi Dench's Goldfish?

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Hannah Ann Sluss, Kelvin Hayden & Dame Judi Dench's Goldfish?

"They WANNA know pain. Pain. Fame. Welcome to the weekly the podcast you'll learn everything you need to know about the celebrities you don't Bobby Finger. Weber and this is the three. Wow at the top it's good for today. It's good at the top I. Feel like every time we do this, we should actually say what the the threes, it's our favorite thirty seconds from the mccollum podcast this week. Three. Ro I'm not even John McCain. We must remain positive and remember that we are doing can to help everyone. So I do hope you'll lacking a good wake and we do have to remain positive. We will get through this so. Now I don't know if you've been on social media or the press, but these two guys from you chepe nominates heap may yes me for the Nobel Peace Prize these two guys these two guys from Youtube you don't even choose the best part of that. The best part she says, she wants all the world leaders to get zoom for her to say, hi to them. She went civil to get on zoom and to give each other like elbow. That's what she kept saying. She was like that's the way to do this. That's the way to solve this, and it's like we have a version of that but I'm not sure what your take is going to really precious forward. I do like the fact that she started with this like you know very heartfelt plea for everyone to remain positive and calm. To McDonald's, and then she's like, anyway anyway back to me, I was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. When he talked about these two guys on Youtube, we wanted to prove that trump's nomination was nothing to boast about after all I've been told we could make a nomination, but the Nobel Committee might still turn our candidate down. We decided nominee needed to represent the values of the Rumford Research Institute, Respect Intelligence and peace. I'm colleen's I'm a massive fan of the dictionary change people's lives. Yes we wanted to nominate reality Star and obvious candidate for the Nobel. Peace Prize Jim Call? We actually have breaking news we have breaking news real breaking news. alesia silverstone takes massless stroll with her to Vegan dogs in Hollywood hills hood her to Vegan, dogs that reads honestly like not whatever. But it read like Vegan hotdogs like. Tofu sausages like on any she walks through Hollywood hills but it is that her dogs her actual dogs are vegans and she I think the reason why they said it like this is which is funny. But also that she did say somewhere that her dogs have a strict Vegan Diet like her your dogs the Guinness. All four my dogs via. Arts must be. Kato. We've been talking about it Lisa Silverstone's like Diet for twenty years. It's first of all. It's literally here are the to Alicia Silverstone talking points, clueless member it and Vegan ruin she her food back into her kids mouth. That's what at least you silverstone coverages that's part of as under the VEGAN umbrella. clueless. Begin. Speaking speaking of clueless vegans Hannah and less says I'm attracted to hot guys. Personality actually, you'll know that she's list or. Tuned in and that she clearly likes. This is an iconic misread and misquote which is mine I mean US weekly knowing there they knowing this girl will not object to being fully misquoted she says that she's trying to not date. She's like I feel like I'm an she's of course it's from podcast I I feel like an easy conversation with but I just feel like the guys that are really hot have no personality and I'm just like sitting here talking to myself. Technically that is attracted to Hawkeye's no personality but it is yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Celebrities related need to stop going on podcasts. Thank God. We don't have gasol's the problem is that they they have their own podcast I don't even need to go and then they turn on their computer and they're just blah. Blah. Blah Blah Blah and then we get I'm attracted to Hawkeye's with no personality. You know where they go to their friends houses and friends just happen to have microphones up and it's like, okay, we can do this on Mike? That's fine. Just do this on my Jennifer Lawrence making coverage for being a Republican because she talked to some podcasts. I'd never heard of in my entire life never get over that. You'll never get over how you'll never get over that. Let me read that against her favorite podcast. You know that that's why she went on it. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. That's why she went on because that's her favorite podcast just the Oscar winning actress joins went joined Wednesday's episode of the deer media absolutely not podcast where she opened up to Heather McMahon about what made her change her mind if she thought. It was like. Last all of that is who going on absolutely not and doing something you should have absolutely not have done is just truly iconic. I've made this joke already on the Patriot because we did talk about this on there because it s we did other other big breaking news blips. Oliver. Hudson says botox quote almost ruined my life where did he opened up about this on sibling rivalry Catholic. Because he was like I had Bo talks with the first time. My skin looked crazy. I wasn't used to it grateful for this type of celebrity news but it is just crazy that it all comes from podcast because we're just now a podcast reporting on podcasts. I mean once once the once the pandemic is has subsided to the point where celebrities can start doing more things. I. Think this will go away in a way like the last thing celebrities are GonNa WanNa do when they're free to leave their houses without masks and go anywhere they want to whenever they please they're never gonna WanNa do a podcast again. Brain like that's all they've been doing for seven months. But for now, this is all we're getting because this is all they're doing. Of, course, this is what we're getting, but it is. It is fascinating that we're just essentially getting. We're podcast reporting on people reporting on podcasts. It's like literally like a full circle back to us here we are eating our own tail. Yum. Yum. Yum. Yum. Meanwhile, Livia Coporo revealed some news and it wasn't on a podcast. I don't know where she revealed us and I don't know how page six got this story because I looked on her instagram. I couldn't find the source they don't mention a source it says headline. debuts. Will they had photos to? So she must've sent photos Olivia Culpa debuts bangs Comma Boyfriend Christian McCaffrey approves, and it says on Thursday, the model twenty, which up her looks debuted a new Bob with bangs while she seemed to bit trepidation about the big job boyfriend McCaffrey was astounded by her new look when Culpa facetime to Carolina Panthers Panthers Star Twenty four to show off the lookie immediately heaped praise on her after requesting that her friends stop building his reaction which she ignored holy fucking asshole he said and when she asked if he liked the new banks, he exclaimed, yes, don't you I love Them I don't know how they know about this. It wasn't on her instagram as far as I could tell how that about the conversation while they I mean it's page six she called them directly. He sent them the file directly the the video got into their hands directly. Although so we're there's multiple face times in the story or whatever I like she called her mom to mom like I don't like them. I don't like the banks was the what was when what's her face banks? What was the Bang Bang what was the CELEB- ITCHY tagger whatever when She got up and she got banged got banged or it's not like. Oh. Gee blog they do the same headline structure with every set of bangs. Bang, it's banged sure. They did it. Meanwhile Olympia couple debuts bangs is what page six with boyfriend Christian McCaffrey of proves not to be rude but I still don't like. I I know she she always dates like a similar type of. So I just. I get them confused because it's like the blind spot. It's sports guys, and so like I know she's not like out here like I'm not calling her promiscuous. I'm just saying if she keeps beating the same type of Guy, I'm never going to know the difference. You know what I mean I'm I'm four boyfriends back still with the with the other guy. With this fail I mean she and Hannah less have the same problem they're attracted the Hawkeyes with no personality. So well, he loves banks. How is someone's name hance Laos sloughs. And Loss I. Know She's it's bachelor and they'll they'll they have normal names you know perfectly normal names actual breaking news that was all a joke the actual breaking news that may actually. Mean break you break us is this headline exclusive Armie Hammer's Daily Mail of course, exclusive Daily Mail. Exclusive hammers marriage ended after his wife found passionate message from mystery woman who called herself add line the same name, his Rebecca co-star Lily. James used on set first of all age of Adeline returns. Eileen is back. I think this has nothing to do with the Lee James I. Think it's fucking Atta line no one can resist a line. Avalon is a any well, maybe she changed it in she's doesn't age she's got bored. He changed her she changes her name and line credited her unchanging appearance to a combination of a healthy diet exercise heredity and good luck. Hello God you haven't changed. Very. Kind of you to say Fleming. You're all grown up. That's what I keep telling my mom that she doesn't believe. Do you believe this or do you think this is bullshit because I think that's the conversation to have I because it's Daily Mail it's tabloid, it could be bullshit. Is if it's true, it means the like. L. M. Disagreement that was rumored that they had is not the case it's like this but I kind of like. This seems like too much Lily James in the past week or two to be real and I saw the chemistry. They had an rebecca which sucked and it wasn't good like they didn't have a lot of candidates. Not that not that they couldn't up again people hookup sets all the time but people, the source was like Oh they were canoed alling onset. It's like, yeah they played fucking lovers on the set. So maybe I think that that's a hard distinction to make and I don't know if I trust just a source saying they were hot and heavy on the set. It's like, yeah, that's their job or whatever. So. I'm much more willing to believe they were hot and heavy onset, which almost think has to be the case if you're shooting a movie like this, then I am that like she found text messages from Adeline, on his phone or whatever. Specific again, you know how I? Always love. It's always to specific to be made up Someone said someone wrote that the the name at align is a character in another Dafna Daphne Du, Maurier? And Daphne barring wrote Rebecca. Yeah? That's what it meant. Sorry. Yes. That's what I meant but lily, James, virtuous adeline on the call sheet. So that's what people onset called her which is where the connection comes. I feel like we didn't do a good job of explaining what the connection was up a top, but that's Name. In the book she's Mrs Mrs. Does Mrs de Winter and so I guess in their call sheet they gave her a name that's not Mrs dewinter which is a little bit confusing to me just call her missus dewinter like the book whatever th in the movie she's Mrs Two Wins Turner. Fun. So they gave her sister Adeline think is what we would really need to know is whether the name if this is the name they use on the call sheet like is this true Too often that you could just call us and tell us just take a photo of the call sheet, send it to us. You probably put in your scrapbook if you. Tell us I'll trust you if you're like I worked on that movie you kidding I believe every call we get I believe every call. There was one good good moment to come in that moving. It's Richard Lawson's tweet. If this movie starred If this movie star Chris Hemsworth, and Margot Robie, it'd be called Rebecca. Riddick. Riddick and every time I see Rebecca Ruth began. Ridiculous, it's still served to me every time I opened up flex. It's like. Are you WanNa do it you ready? You haven't done it right? No I went right past went to unsolved mysteries volume to it's. Like it's very like the great gatsby remake in many ways, it just feels so like flourish and not actually scary the original. So scary like the book scary. The original movie scary. anyways, it's a lot of style. It's a lot of style is not rebecca pockets. This is. Okay. This is them. E Shawna I'm sorry Shonda rhimes is them. This story is so like this is the who he is behavior although maybe it is any behavior. This is about of them starting them numb like it's not even who he at all you be the judge Bobby, tell the story and you guys be the judge. Let us know what you think is this them being who we or is of them being than me? This is really funny news and it's it was silly funny news that I reacted to as though it were Hawaii News even though pretty much all the pieces involved are me Mean it's the it's the amazing news blip where both sides are wrong and honestly how. How you view this is like how you see life. You know it's kind of like a marine test for like your own who exactly. Turing test a blotch INC lodge touch. What do they call those where you see even with? Test or shocked test like during like. There's this profile. There's this profile of Shonda rhimes in the Hollywood reporter and it's kind of about her time at. Netflix it's very like Shonda, and that it's about like it took me a while to like become comfortable with being like the the woman in the room, and like I'm going to be positive and you know I'm GonNa be like a bad ass I'm like own my shit Blah Blah Blah Blah. So it's very like. Shonda rhimes. This is the the stuff that she put in her book. This is how Shonda rhimes aggie grey's anatomy, and literally if she made nothing else should be treated like this. Do you think? She's made other good things and that's just fucking icing on the cake. That is the grey's Anatomy Juggernaut for ABC like, I just a really feel like she could be an Oscar winning movie and still grey's anatomy would be more valuable to to like the industry than that in a way you know and I'm sure she's aware of that. Well, this tell the story. So. Shonda rhimes. This story it's it's just a perfect thing where it's like a the Item Cherry picked from the story and aggregated everywhere had nothing to do with empowerment. With like a petty Shonda rhimes anecdote, which was that one day because she worked at ABC and all is one of these big conglomerates and also owns Disney like Disneyworld. Disneyland she was like I want some passes to Disneyland so he can go with my family. And she has some one. Or she wanted. She wanted more and Jerry. Another way. So they gave her one she negotiated another for her nanny for her nanny for her nanny by one for her sister because she was going. In her shoes going to be taking her sister's daughter and so she was like, Hey, ABC what's up and this is basically this the story opens because it's her saying like this is the time that she knew she had to leave that she knew she had to go to Netflix because this happened interests she says, okay but it's going to quote it if the passes have been interchangeable if the passes had been interchangeable rhymes would have been happy to give up hers when. But she had the time to go to. Disneyland. Anyway, but they're not interchangeable after someone wanted back and forth quote we never do this. She was told more than once rhyme issued an additional pass but when her daughter's arrived in Anaheim only one of the past has worked rhymes lobby to call to the high ranking executive at the company. Surely, he would get this sorted instead the allegedly replied don't you have enough the the use of first of all noting that it's a he? Okay. Noting that this was the turning point and this is also kind of to me. Now I'm reading it again like the the this is the Brown M&M's of her life. You know. Don't wait. What do you mean? What do you mean remember when that band I WanNa say van Halen because I think it was brought up when Eddie van Halen died they put into writer they wanted Eminem's but only the Brown ones and if they if people followed that they knew that they were writer. Amos, like we're going to put this like very specific detail, and this is how we not because we want them but we know we don't want them. We just wanted to know that you respected enough to read this full document that we gave you. It's your job. This is very much like the. The Brown M.'s rate of of her story, and so the executive says, don't you have enough and she said, thank you for your time. She up called her lawyer said figure out a way for me to get to Netflix or I'd find new every sensation. That literally because they didn't give her another passage Disneyland and treated her like that. was funny as like both sides are right ABC are there give her a fucking? What could it cost? Two hundred, three, hundred dollars two hundred dollars to get this like. Give her the pass award invented grey's anatomy, and then the other side is like Shonda bypass like you're you make like twenty million dollars a year whatever two hundred, million dollars or whatever you make you make two, hundred, million dollars a year. Then did she move to Netflix and even to seeing the the words she pays news show Asses where it says, she would get a nine figure deal at net flicks nine figure nine. How many? I had to do that. Was it okay? Got It. Millions and millions of dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Nine figures nine nine figure salary. That's of Hooey. Nano who? ME. Gone. anyways disappointed because it does it does reveal your own. I read it differently every time almost. You know 'cause the first time I'm like shoddy. You're being ridiculous and the second time like, okay. Maybe you're not being that ridiculous and then at one point I was like shot a you deserve one, hundred eighty passes and how dare anyone ever disrespect to you. But now I'm sort of like maybe you're being a little ridiculous he. I guess I I lean more on the side of lake. She deserves the passes like give her the passes. Like. Give her the fucking. It's negligible negligible. anyways and I bet there's somebody she called a specific exact but I bet she called a different exact. They would have been like here. Shut up here the passes fine. Take I didn't and I didn't even notice the Pronoun Usage until you said. Like a subtle way of them slipping in, it's not like it wouldn't be surprising that like throw a rock at a Disney so like. C. Suite and you're gonNA hit a man but like still that's a pointed use their Oh. Yeah. This is great. This story keeps on giving last we talked about how Joe Dice was squad quit seeing someone and people were calling this woman his girlfriend even though it was he made it he tried very hard to his credit to make it clear that they were not dating that she was just his lawyer and now every place is very hyper aware of the fact that this woman is not his girlfriend so they must have gotten the memo because it says in US weekly she was referred to as his new Italian flame who is quote a fan of his ex wife Teresa it's. Still, it's still lawyer. Flame and then Daily Mail refers to him to her as someone he is seeing but they put the seeing and sort of like. Eyebrow raising her regular he pays are to be as lawyer. I am very confused why we keep spinning it like this it steal his lawyer. I don't know if it's an if it's a joke that everyone's in on or if they are just trying to get the Seo funny thing is he gave me news like long long long long long download and it's like a year after his deportation jude is has a lot to say in it's pretty wild if it's pretty wild for. Pretty wild and it's like I'm seeing my lawyer, I made a sex I made sex toys I'm importing couches and you see all this. WHO SAYS I know here's a quote. I just signed a deal to start importing sofas, chairs and what happy from an Italian company here they're actually handmade sofas, leather sofas, I just partner with this guy he first of all so of them to to not like some this up for him, just print it in full we're gonNA start shipping couches directly to the customer to their home cut the middle i. let's say the couch cost eight, thousand dollars you cut another eight thousand dollars shipping shop to America this that and the other thing. So you save a lot of money so I'm going to be wholesaling. So I to customers all over the place as slick. I mean, it's not a bad idea. We're not I have no issue with with JOE DI selling Italian couches. He's learning a lot about Italy but oh, my God, like, can we get this guy like a like a? A sick as I see like cut this down. Just like giving his entire business plan to e over the phone is really funny. He did he doesn't. He does. His sex tape, his sex, not tape sorry I keep saying tape sex toy. It's a sex toy but discussing like sales all I will never understand it whenever someone's like I'm in sales. It's like this is what sales it's like it's like, Oh, I, buy thing here at cut down the Middle Man I, raise the price i. I make I know a guy here and make a relationship here, and then I moved over year and then like I make a profit, it's pretty impressive. He's been in Italy for one year and he's already got these multiple business streams. Well it's literally like he was walking through a town square somewhere in Tuscany was like a guy like sal and he sells leather and it's like now I had a dealer and then he met a guy like frank who sells would and then like another person who's like dad was on the couch business for two generations and Next thing you know a business wheeling and dealing. We was my business Zella USA it's basically a woman's massage I wouldn't call it my sex shop because it's no, we don't sell any of those other things. It's basically just high-end massages that are made by an Italian French designer. So they're made of top quality material and I mean it's a very good product to be honest the. Really handled one until I got into this business, I always wanted to get involved in that business and I did listen it's paying the bills. It's a good business I someone to Theresa and the whole cast. I'm pretty sure they're having fun I'm sure each of them are going to try because it's a pretty glide him. I would. No. I. Couldn't perform like that. We I'm sorry. So he hasn't used it already has use it and he Hasn't used it. He's given it to the women in his life anything. Good. Good Product. It's a good product, but I've never handled one. This guy this guy up top quality top quality stuff isolate qualities trumpy this guy. It's very, it's very trumpy, a delivery. But moving on. He makes sex toys. Hilary Duff is pregnant again. Yeah which is being covered everywhere and I thought this is really funny because some places say it's her second child someplace and say it's her third. It's definitely her third but I liked that no one could agree and no one really needed to do the work whenever it was Hillary Duff. It was very funny that no one really cared that Hillary Duff pregnant even though they were all covering it. Did you see this? Video I watched it. I thought it was fine. She's totally it's totally fine. She's pretty funny. The fact that it is a commercial for the Samsung, frame is funny it is funny because the but then I was kind of like I want this because it did look good she had like Geckos and animals, and then her kids were being kinda funny. She was like here's a painting my son did and it's like a coronavirus corona virus sucks or something like that. She's like that at the beginning of Corinth, did you see the when she was like my my son likes to hide in this cupboard and then he got in Q. and then she closes and she's like by Pretty. Cute. No it was funny. I think sometimes people there are some of the eighties that are truly strange but I think sometimes this leads are just being quirky and we GotTa go with it. It's not look at my lines. That's a whole other level look no one. It'd be at my limes coach, I wanna play this though we really spend a lot of time watching TV as a family and I have zero regrets about that and zero guilt about that I love this TV it's called the frame. It's a Samsung and it looks like a photograph. So you don't even know that it's actually a TV until you turn it on, you can get different colored frames to around I chose black because. It looks like a TV. Lake, lake paintings don't glow. Typically cats it's the TV. It looks like a TV. TV Yeah I do like that. It's like very clear that this is about to become spawned because she's like my family and I watch TV and I have no regrets I think that that's okay. I think it's lovely. Here's my TV. It's a Samsung Thank you. Hillary. Thank you, Hillary what's next on here? Oh Skip this this sucks. SKIP. Skip this. Let's not skip Noah Centenario please well now I feel like I was very dismissive of the rumor that they got married I still think that they didn't get married you invent an-and sausage. You do not have to be upset about being dismissive over something that was on some gossip blog but I'm just saying like I was like this is ridiculous but they did flirt in instagram comment. So I did I did believe that there was something maybe going on. So now they're spotted together leaving Craig's, of course, which is the number one place you go to get photographed if not nobu if not. Gilson's or whatever. So these two want you to wire together whether they're dating or not. Let's say that let's just say that. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of makes me are they dating? It also makes me like not believe it necessarily to. anyways. I've like turned a corner and now. I'm still fully just believe it. All right. Let's also I. believe that Iggy Azalea Playboy Cardi broke up because she posted something vague and for a little bit it was like Oh posted a vacant room story that's at people take loyalty for granted and that's the way I'd rather be alone and so there were a lot of headlines that were like Iggy Azalea. Loan but even that headline or even the specific comment from Iggy a herself could be read as like she's kind of like unhappy right now but she's not alone she says I'd rather be alone. She doesn't say she now is thinking. I am alone and I'd. Yeah. But this is very telling. People take loyalty for granted I. Mean She's kind of saying he's not loyal. So they. So they split up she said she also added a post that said you lost a real one so Yeah, it's confirm she brooklyn. I. They were all I. thought they had already broken up to be us. kind of like on the kind of under the radar already in the data kid kind of under the radar, and then they were like I didn't even you know I think. I. The whole thing seemed very casual and now she's a Tiktok. Star. So like I don't even know what to say about it gives Eliot right now I know it's it's not you. She's not the only one who broke who broke up to Raji Raji P. Henson who's I think of them? Yes. Definitely them brought. Them. In hidden who? Who in this she called off her engagement with this this NFL player guy, he's a former. IGGY IGGY is of them. Gigi is them with nothing but who tendencies everything about is is is who is who we but I think she is at them to Raji is of them can hayden is a WHO She's fifty years old and she broke up with the guy she was engaged got engaged a couple of years ago. He's just a football player was like. Why they weren't married yet that was like I remember like unlit. News, who cares and so now they're breaking up as she says, he was not into trying therapy. Love that I the the quotes which she gave the breakfast club are actually kind of intense because. She talks about it for a long time, and then she's like I don't WanNa talk about my personal life. It's like groggy told US everything there is to know and she said I haven't studied but it didn't work out. You know what I mean and I tried I was like therapy. Let's therapy thing. But if you're not both on the same page with that, then you feel you're not then you feel like you're taking it out on yourself and that's not a fair position for anybody to play in the. But in the relationship, my happiness is not his responsibility and his happiness is my mind has there ever been a more like therapists said line To, I learn how to make ourselves. Happy to make each other. Happy. Flag. If you're if your guy you're engaged you for two years wanted to therapy flanked he wouldn't go third her red flag forget it I I was I was trying to find my like more things about this guy because I was like he's a guy like is just fully work. I. Is there any other like as he dated other famous people? There's something interesting about him. There really isn't anything interesting about them. I found a good like ten things to know about him on your tango and even your tango didn't WanNa put in the work listen to this. He's a dad one of the things though we're not sure how many kids Hayden has he's no stranger to sharing. Work Tango Make One, phone call. To My Lazy Ass Tango. Keep saying tangle keeping Mike, my tango. Tango okay. The last time that she. Talked about him lovingly was when they got engaged and there were cute stories about how she cried so much fake lashes fell off and like she was showing for ring left and right everywhere she went. But then again never happened and then the last time she talked about the engagement because everyone's like, what are you getting married when you married when you're getting married because that's what happens to these celebrities. Now it's been march because she just like a conversation topic like it sucks in it just becomes like the thing where it's like people are could be like engaged forever or like not or not mayor like. Whatever I get it I'm not like mad up I'm just like it's ox but I get it. And she said. In March. We were GONNA get married in April but now we're GONNA get married in July. In March march sixth and then. Like. This does look like the sort of thing like maybe had the pandemic dot happened. April. That's my guess is their wedding push and then they decided to. Bless. Yeah, well, that's exciting. Working on the wedding plans or is it still a long way off now let s a ways off I was pressuring myself because. Wizards Eight. What does it say? Wow winning this eight. What is it they and finally I was like you know I'm in control we're in control. So we're GONNA. Wait just when we have a date, will that everyone know you will give? Much advance notice where you give their all spending time with each other going on podcasts. Not. But I noticed this lab, which is like a real show a real show a podcast like us. Yeah. But the the thing that I've noticed that we haven't really talked to her because she is that me. Sexy Coverage. She's gotten sexy coverage over the summer. Have you noticed this now suddenly to Raji P. Henson's coverage has gotten sexy and I, think it's because it was at her fiftieth birthday party where he had seen shows up her jaw-dropping figures she slips into a Thong while celebrating her fiftieth birthday on a yacht with friends to Rashi P. Henson showcases for incredible figure in animal print swimsuit as she continues to celebrate her fiftieth birthday with Powell's in Kabo I think what is happening? Here too like i Daily Mail likes to things they like hot young people but then they also surprising hot old people in the way that they're saying like Oh hot people like old people can be hot is in this. So surprising that's like what they're playing off of even though it's like for how many old people you cover who were hot it seems to me not that surprising to me anymore like I've seen a lot of hot old people and by old I mean. Not Old fifty but labor fifty over fifty. But I'm just saying that's the angle they'll choose to to do that. You know. The Daily Mail was giving to Russia Henson. With the body coverage when she was forty nine. But now, it was like they got the go ahead and you know who I think is one of the leaders of this game who's next on this list Kate Bash forty seven no. You're right. No, you're right. But I think kate beckons sale has really blown the laid off of like hot old coverage again, not old she's only forty seven but I'm just saying old olden quotes like just because she she gets that covers all the time every time the woman puts on a bikini. She gets the coverage because think that they know that does really well for them. She broke up with her boyfriend I assume they already broke up. So I'm like, wow, they did it for a long time. They did it for nine months but that just funny doing no dated for nine months finally gave birthday after. The Joke. Station period was nine months and then they broke up. goody grace. As we do know they broke up because she and followed him and deleted stuff and we just assume yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah Atkinson Quinlan. We can save Quinlan for. Yell let's not do that. Now you've found this really interesting Josh Hartnett profile in the Guardian. Yet another thing we might cut. So 'cause they're gonNA join. Them E-. No He's not Hartnett was them. He was a big them. For. Sure. Oh, now come on and he's in this movie. God. I forgot what movie his promoting your promoting a new movie it's called. The name has changed one hundred times. You know what? Actually I did watch the trailer because luckily the right up mentioned that the guy from Mommy, one of my favorite movies. He's like incredible. So I did watch most wanted it's based on the true story of this reporter who kind of found out that this drug smuggler who was going to get life in a Thai. Prison was maybe being set up by the Canadian government and so that's what. About. Well doesn't Josh. Hartnett was interviewed by Gilby of the Guardian and the headline is Josh Hartnett Colon. Quote people genuinely thought I'd been thrust on them. The whole point is you were. The whole point is that's what that's how. That's how movies are promoted. That's how. It stars are and so it's like it's just a very strange interview because he like it's like he's given all the pieces but he hasn't quite put them together correctly and it's like filled with navel-gazing and like he'd never quite would fight to the finish line. He wants you not to forget that he was once very famous and he was once Guess Batman maybe one or Superman sorry he. Was Super, Bodo Superman and Batman Oh he was whatever the rumor the rumor was that he turned down. Batman. But he actually wants you a member or maybe the writer who knows who asked who what the profile is like wants to remember how great he could have been how he was on the precipice of something truly huge and then all of a sudden he was the number one star. What was that that he was, of course, the number one star of loopers like where to Josh Hartnett go you know like those moving those videos you see on youtube that are like, what happened Josh Hartnett or whatever. But. There's so much of this piece has just like. He wants to remind people that. His devolution from them to who was entirely his idea. Yeah and. It and it's comes off as like very defensive in that respect and it's really kind of fascinating to read because he keeps saying like. Did you notice what the beginning he's like Oh, they meant they bring when he was on the cover of Vanity Fair, when he was shooting Black Hawk, down. And he's like Oh that was so embarrassing I hated it all they would talk about was how hot I was I hate it. Then at the end of this interview, it's like, oh I read it again. I liked it. It's actually thoughtful and then he's like, oh I also there's some other stuff I wanted to tell you about Harvey Weinstein. Can I add? He does that's what I'm saying. So he does the interview and then he calls back to add more stuff about Harvey Weinstein because he's not he he was thinking about what he's saying because he kind of did this thing he was like he was creepy but I didn't know the extent to it. You know. We knew creepy, but we didn't know how creepy Baba so he feels uncomfortable that. He calls back to to do that, and he says I also read that Vanity Fair article that I that I trashed my first interview with you and it's not that bad quote. It's just it's just that it happened at a time when I wasn't that famous and seem to already be asking whether it should be or not. I felt like okay. I melt the tallest poppy yet don't cut me down. I was being compared to Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts, and that's insane a setup to fail moment. He gives aside quote it was actually an interesting look at the nature of fame. If it only wasn't about me, that's actually interesting and I don't think he's totally off like, yes I mean when you're in a big movie with movie stars, you're often treated like a movie star even if you're not as famous as Ben Affleck when you're in Pearl Harbor with him, you don't I mean. I just filling and he's he obviously, he obviously has an interesting perspective because he says, if it wasn't about me, it's actually interesting which is kind of like the whole point of our podcast is interesting. But what about you you are so fully naturally on the defensive about the whole thing that it's really hard to kind of have any perspective that's accurate at all. And it was a hump, he was just like unwilling to get over. It's very clear that like if you are a Leonardo DiCaprio, if you are a Julia Roberts or Denzel Washington or Tom Cruise. This all happens to you anyway, and you have these thoughts I mean unless you're like like even the most narcissistic person alive, which probably you have to be but it's like he was like I couldn't do it and he says people got a chip on their shoulder after about me because of that they genuinely thought I've been thrust on them. It was a very weird time and it's like the thing is Josh were thrust on you were you were a product that was trying to aid. In one of the biggest movies, most expensive movies that year let's say one and all time and they had. That movie. Yeah. It was really expensive and they had to sell that movie. So you became the most commodifying ball product and like that sucks you happen to choose that movie but you did shoot that movie like you did you chosen you were in it you like funny back and sell back again she was in that movie to. Connect, but it's just It's just he never he never quite gets to the level of awareness where he understands that this happens to everyone. He's just like I mean, I can't believe that this happened unladylike like there's just a state of shock that he has not dissipated in twenty years that I'm just kind of surprised by and I think it's because he was like this sucks. Brain Selah takes share by also think that like when you get the first, you get the coverage that it's overwhelming and you're too famous but then you get the coverage where did you go when you've been out? You're kind of doing smaller things for a long time like wasn't he in link peaky blinders and stuff like didn't he do not keep lenders like He was the one that Tessa loves. Penny dreadful read full tell penny dreadful and people aren't the same thing get out of here and like. With. On a show on like stars or showtime or whatever, and like out here like doing things and the hardest question to get is the very rick Moranis where you go where did you go or whatever, and it's like some people genuinely do leave and not do anything. But some people just do things that you don't pay attention to or or not as a list as kind of like maybe the. run-up was or as you remember them going to be like, yes I like Pearl Harbor was supposed to thrust him into doing something and then he didn't end up doing it. Let's say he could have and I, think this this thing is again him reminding people that he could have if he wanted to and I didn't and it's like, Hey, this is my choice this choice this is my choice. There's a funny. We don't have a banana bonanza this week, but there's a funny Ben Affleck quote in the. Original Vanity Fair story from two thousand and one cuts called. The making of Josh Hartnett cover is really funny. It's like the cover is. Line is what happens is Oh admit two weeks ago you'd never heard of Josh Hartnett that's literally the cover of Vanity. Anyway so it has this quote from Benadryl. Article was a little bit like this. Fuck. The headline is the route is I'm sure she was putting all up I'm sure half of the the sour memories attached were based on the headline and he's because he's Jeans and like a little hat like I mean this would. Talk about us half the whole store. And he says, he's like little. Yes they're like he's he looks like you just left the bird campus and strolled into the village. It's like, Oh, my God. It says they. Because he's also in Pearl Harbor and he's dealt with this sort of like sudden fame and so they're like, I'm going to talk to Ben Affleck about this and it says quote I remember when the Titan I remember what the tidal wave of publicity that accompanied goodwill hunting did to my life writes Ben Affleck via email metro and Ben Affleck email simply put. It's actually very funny. Simply put Josh will get very famous very quickly and runs the very risk of becoming a sort of one man embodiment of the backstreet boys to hormone craze fifteen year old girls from. Tarzana he is particularly at risk for this as he is. So very pretty all caps pretty I suspect line prospect of this as well as that of becoming pinup in prison cells everywhere, which is I'd say the downside route and homophobic somewhat overwhelming it's great and Hetty but a little weird to say the least and so it's like this is it's just been. APPLIC- saying like this is exactly what happens if he's ready for this, he can take it if he's not, he doesn't have to take. I don't WanNa. Take It and to be fair, he probably ended up getting the career that he wanted except for this thing that hangs over him a little bit, which is the conversation of will you almost did something else? It's like why do he's like, why didn't want to do that in the first place and it's like all right. Well, then maybe you shouldn't have taken a Pearl Harbor but right I'm sure it was a ton of money. I'm sure like it was compelling and I'm sure he's people were pushing for that because he was like on that rise. And like you know how much we're talking about Vanity Fair. We always love to talk about how much they love like a star on the rise like the next big thing in the next like hot person or whatever whether they're hot or not you know like the next lack talent and so this was just like this is just how they cover people always always always always you know he says that he almost turned down Pearl Harbor because he said, well, he turned down he wanted it to turn dumper then he took it because he was like My decision to turn it down was based entirely on fear and I didn't WanNa. Let fear run my life. And then he says whenever they wanted to give him the superman movie because there was that movie that they were trying to make for like a decade and nothing ever happened I guess like Brandon routh. Got It. He went in and his pitch was what if Superman is really sad and afraid of his power just funny because that's what they would eventually do with. Batman and. So, he was awfully, he was almost like before his time. He if it was a few years later, he could've sold that he could have been Sudirman with the. Three years, three years later let's make Batman depressed that literally happened like a few years later he that's what he says happened he said I want Superman to be sad and alone and not want to touch anything afraid of his power and they were like get the fuck out of my office is free and he was like fine by right but like the irony is like Christopher Nolan. What did he say, right? No. Truly. No. Batmans lonely. Here we go. Like that is literally what ended up happening. It's just so It's it's for the best. I think I think he would agree but he doesn't want you to forget that he was asked. Just totally love you gotta read the whole thing and then read the Vanity Fair Story. It's just funny to see to watch the full evolution and the fact that he calls back any review it's just it's For our purposes, it's great to have an article almost about another article like it's so specific that he's referring to this like very specific piece that blew him up and he'll never forget that that was like weirdly turning point and like I'm not sure that happens as much anymore there. No he says like that they're big cover stories like that. That could really make or break somebody. But there were and there are definitely instances of major celebrity's sort of firing back at pieces of journalism that they hate. Yeah and they're like, well, I remember the way I was covered in nineteen, ninety nine by Star magazine and I'll never forget it. It was so shameful but they don't necessarily read them again and revisit them just rely entirely on the like memory of that anger. Not. Actually Really Went Back and actually read it again and was like you know honestly, maybe I am just remembering remembering it as being very traumatic but it's like, yeah, do they post they put you on in Vanity Fair with no shirt on for many pages like of course, it felt like weird you know any leave was like take off the hat like that's traumatic. That's The hat on. on I don't know why Anna leave it sounds like that I don't know either but it's funny no clue what our voice sounds like. No clue never. We'll tell you know because I've I've done. Over the years books that sort of of R works. That are accumulated over a period of time. I I did a book in in Nineteen Ninety called nine, hundred, seventy, nine, hundred, ninety, and this story whenever. Oh. No The Oh. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little dummy we can skip. 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Magazine and everybody was like, okay by Relieved Ok magazine and started a feud entire was like you're out of your mind and Bethany was like I. Love I love you to come on my podcast. is on like I'm a businesswoman you're out of your mind you think I would ban people who people like like that would come this show and do the stupid show from doing the stupid show never I wouldn't that's. Your name mean which I kind of agree with let's talk about Demi Levato slow for ufo's please talk about this. No we. Almost it in that we didn't so demis 'EM, but we're talking about her break for Eric, which is totally who also done it only alien, which are who is so Demi Levato gets headline on page six Damian Levato has been chatting with aliens since Max Eric Break Up. If you're a demi levato fantasy, lavar tech herself. It sounds bad. No matter how you say Louisville's Bat Levada. Levada. Okay. If you're Levada you know Demi Levato has been into alliens for a long time. This is not the first time. Demi was like on some she was on talk shows. I Love Aliens. Aliens I. Love Mermaids I believe these things existed I love them I don't. Like. You're stupid. She's like come on set and he's like I still don't believe I'm do you think aliens or real I know that they're real this isn't a thing. No this isn't a thing. How how self-centered would we be as humans to believe that we are the only living? Things and the verse. Well, call me self centered because I don't believe in La. She didn't give the reason that always convinces me, which is like you think you're the only people and this entire universe. It's narcissistic to believe that you're the only people I. It's true. I'm having flashbacks to contact. That's the thing and I'm like Oh that that reason alone convinces me I'm like, Oh, well, the likelihood of us being like the only ones here like she has Demi Levato has a point in two, thousand, four I know time extremely sugar when it comes to aliens like my one, my disbelief faces very seth Meyers. But my belief is gentle Malone and God whenever her dad's wouldn't that be an awful space and I'm like that's true and then that music place Liens a real. Yeah I do love you going anyways. Motto clearly is like. GOING, through a breakup because she went to with tree till, they can meet up with his like Alien Guy. Whose name is Dr Steven? greer. One of the world's foremost authorities on the subject of you of Os et intelligence initiating peaceful contact with E. T. hip civilizations according to his instagram bio sounds like Jim, Collins would love this guy first of all. Guys, a big. He's big on the UFO. You look into him like he's. Ever UFO podcast. He talks about phone with everyone who listen and turns out a lot of people listen. So so damn Levada goes to Joshua. Tree. To have an alien meditation with this guy by the way, it's all on Youtube we'll play some of it here it is bring chairs. I'm. Dr Stephen Greer. And we are here in Joshua Tree California National Park, and we are going to make contact with et's, and we're going to attempt to and I don't know if you WanNa tell people more about that do. Mention what happened on your birthday? Well, yes. So first of all if anybody has seen the documentary close encounters of the fifth pine or has heard of the disclosure project that was started by the sky right here and If you've seen those documentaries and I'm serious and acknowledged, she promoted his APP which is called C. e. five close encounters with the fifth kind and it costs nine, hundred, ninety nine and is required to make contact with otherworldly beings. She done told fans it doesn't. It's okay. If it's not doesn't work immediately quote ps if it hasn't happened on the first try keep trying took me several sessions to tap into a deep enough level meditation to make contact happy communicating. Nine thousand nine, it says the APP has. Thirty six ratings of four out of five rating, which isn't that bad. This APP provides instructions tools to assist you and making peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations as well as locating others in your area who were interested in making contact. Wait wait wait you want to find. That working Daily. Auto you may not find aliens, but you may find the greatest ufo of them all which is Demi Levato. Wow ow that's. Good and sneaky. The reviews are fine. Some people say it needs work but other people say follow the guidance and I took with my new what the thing now I'm cracking up this is the WHO thing see listen to this review. Being. New to the C. Five APP was for me to get started. I follow the guidance and I made contact with my new friends immediately and I'm just like what do you mean the aliens or your or people? who were on the social network? It's unclear. It's unclear. It's unclear. Genius genius. Anyway. What else did she say about aliens? Wants to save aliens. I love aliens as much as the next Demi Lavar be do that as much as the next love attic but. This is where we start to get into like Demi like. De Means that. So the thing about this as an we're talking about aliens were talking around everything. So it's actually this is actually very funny like. Crisis Pr like it's very like budget sort of like scatter brained crisis pr where she's like I can't talk about this. Guy Max Eric Anymore. Da Yoke crazy my other interests which include aliens and went to leave the planet and I'm GonNa Talk About Aliens I committee. Nobody it's like I can't think of another human to talk about I have to talk about aliens because this has been so traumatic for me because he's going out here taking sad sack photos on the beach he's dating other women and calling the perhaps for it. You know like he's doing the most she's probably getting calls upton right about it like for her for finding the strangest thing to be like a diversionary. Left. Hand Turn I. Mean it's like a little swerve onto like a on unpaved road that leads right to Joshua Tree and also beautiful place to go so like she really. Props to her for really like changing the subject in a way which like which is not to say like any Max Eric's has anything to do with her negatively like this guy played her she sucks he's weird. It's all. It's all creepy like she needs to go on and live her life, and apparently this is helping this stuff helps I I'm a fan of her I'd much rather hang out with Dr Steven greer then Max Eric I know in like Two semi scammers but I would say the UFO guy is less bad than Max Eric, which is saying a lot. Ton. God the next thing on this list is also the me I know. Who to talk about it this week this week I mean Lindsey number testing last night. This week is the silliest lineup of stories like maybe one of the silliest line we've had a very long time and it's like I do think that a lot of it has to do with I mean maybe maybe not maybe I'm being insane a lot of it has to do with the election like. There's too much other stuff going. Insane. Like I know maybe it's just like we're insane we feel insane but feel insane but also like celebrities if there is going to be big celebrity like movie is number one, there's no movies talk about there's barely any new music to talk about the celebrities are all promoting their candidates of choice like lizards out here stumping for Joe Biden type like. They're all doing political staff. Stuff is great. It's just like it's hard for us. To cover celebrities saying vote, which is like my answer is like very cool support it love it all please say who you're voting for and who you're voting. But, but that's it like there's really nothing kind of like silly or shameless about telling people to vote I think it's great. So it's not as it's not like fun when that's the coverage, which is fine. Just, for our purposes are if Dame Judi, dench is gonNA give mouth to mouth to a goldfish and tell people about it. We're going to be here waiting for that to happen. Dame Judi dench is a them, but her pet goldfish is certainly a WHO now that it received mouth-to-mouth from Dame Judi dench. And guess why we know this guess what we know this happened because she went on a podcast called how to well. How do you even get Judi dench on our podcast? Do you just tell her? It's a phone call because if you tell them, it's the podcast. She's not GonNa know what you're talking about. The Dame excuse me the name the day someone's going to call you just talk to them. It's going to be recorded. We don't have to get and then she's like, okay, fine. Judi dench says she wants gave her pet Goldfish mouth-to-mouth resuscitation when it was dying sub head although the Goldfish has since died Judi, dench recalled our pet ended up going to be quote about six inches long after she saved it by Maria Pesky and Marie. That's the part that like really somehow people has this I've never. So weird glitch glitch put the same woman on a double byline. It took two of this woman to report this piece. I think they fixed it but like when I was reading, it was saying. Everything about the headline was making me sink into myself and like start communicating with aliens Allah Demi Levato and. The bottom. It says by Maria Penske and Maria, it's still says by Maria Cristina Maria Gainey. It took it takes a person in their cloned. It takes a person in their clone to write about Judy dench saying she wants gave mouth-to-mouth pet goldfish. Judy. Addresses this but like fish don't breathe air. She even talks about this given. Gives she goes I. Blew Down Its mouth. I know now that it should have been in its gills but I didn't know. So it's sort of like. It's what Judy did to save. This fish didn't save the fish. The fish just lived although I say the way the Judy describes Resuscitation is so elegant. It's. No I'M GONNA play it I'm gonNA play the clip. Why not I mean we have all these fucking podcast things. I can play them I. Guess I gave it the kiss of love it died. It was very, very little. Go give the kiss of lying and it grew to be about. Six six inches long right in a bowl classic aquarium. In a kind of you know nice can was. S. Pump and yes, it had all those things and well listen you mentioned you mentioned cats let's just talk about cats the movie come on and say what a smash really yes calling it I'm sorry calling. mouth-to-mouth. The, kiss of life is so beautiful. So beautiful beautiful is beautiful. Look at our in our Lyndon just head to toe Lyndon. Letting US know that she gave a fish mouth to mouth. You know just letting US know. This is the sort of covers that were getting. This is the week that we are having three election I think that the week after the election is can be is going to be a completely different tenor I i. hope it is next week is going to be going to be injuries weirder. Yeah interesting. I don't really know what to expect I really don't. We. Are. Behaving coups. All of them. Yeah. But we do have Rita and Rita is behaving just as she always wants. Elect to. Allegra everything changed. But was she wearing? Where was she seen? She posted why on a? She's who clean. Gone too. Offer. Lose. What's Rita Ora up to? Who is this woman? Well, that was another line in the Hillary Duff. In the Hillary video she says, she refers to the quarantine and the past tense and she's like back during quarantine when we couldn't do much I was like is over for you we're in it. Yeah Meteor. What if you're rich and famous you just like it just ended? It's over. sweetie. Next. Next segment is Rita. I'm going to say next call. Rita what is up to the best thing she's up to you got to play some clips of this. I have never seen a read or cooking video. Am I wrong? Have you ever seen read or cooking video because she made Penny L. are up our about Yada? We know I'm lynching. She made a penny. Bianca Alaba Yata. For Elle magazine. And today I WANNA make you my mother see versity and all. Without before I do that I'm any little jerk solemnly make myself a for Sarah Tequila walks cedar as. Easily. She. Says it's her mom's a secret recipe. Begins you make begins you're gonNA. Make. Her making Perot Tequila on the rocks and I was like, of course, this is just spot for her prosperity Lebron. Cooking videos because she's done spawn for food, Jason Items like that to me is like answered your question it's like I don't I can't like bring up any specifically but like she has, that's how that's what I was thinking too. It's like I. Don't necessarily remember her doing this but it but it trans nudity it's bizarre and it's bizarre to watch. Let me tell you something it's bizarre to watch like read or chopped tomato it's not like pleasant. It's not fun to watch this. It's very strong. I think she also thinks it's very bizarre for her to be chopping a tomato I. think she would agree with you you know. Making the Prospero Tequila the rocks very very. 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I could have accepted it but the idea of leaving my two children. It never would sit with me. That they wouldn't have a mom when caroline right was told. She had a fatal brain tumor that she only had a year left to live. She started writing. She began to write for two young boys and for her husband Garth. She fill dozens of black and white marbled composition books and in those notebook. She wrote them a blueprint for what their lives might look like after she was call him once. I got my diagnosis. It became clear that these might be actually the last words but my kids read of mine for me. I was living this very sweet life putting it into these pages for my kids and Garth just gave me the space to do that. I think there was a part of me that felt I could make permanent my mothering form. I was storing my love for them in a permanent intangible space in my body kind of became less relevant and I guess it doesn't take away the thought of losing all those years and all those experiences but at least I was giving them the purest form of my love for them and my thoughts for them and you know kind of storing the most positive and distilled version of myself. I never really focused on writing like that that it became my creative everything and I just took really seriously that it was my job to find hope everywhere I could and continue to live. I'm Joe Piazza this is committed. Hey this is caroline. Ingar sitting here together. Do you WanNa Start Garth version. Okay well we did go to college in Paris. Straight out from high school he went there for what would have been four years. We graduated in three though. I don't we don't know exactly why my stories that I dislike saw this super cute American boy from across the we didn't have quad but it was like across the area in front of a Church court courtyard. My Dad and I are really doing a whole big day and apartment hunting with him. We were about to register for classes or something lame and I saw this boy from across the courtyard and I was like. Oh my God. This look like college boys look like this is so great key struck me because you can't see him now which shame for you but he is still the most handsome looks like a movie star to me always and looks a lot like What's that actor? Josh Hartnett? Maybe you crossed with like a little bit of Adam driver really like cute and tall and dark hair blue eyes and I was struck by him and then you know a full year later we were hanging out on the shoulder mouse. Which is the big a park in front of the Eiffel Tower? Like I think it was like two in the morning or something like that and my charmed him and he ended up missing his economy and the next morning because of staying out late and smoking cigarettes with me. So that's my version of the story. I knew his different. I don't remember you know fast forward until we're studying for finals. And Sean and Mars. Because Carolina and most of other friends done with their finals. But I still have my microeconomics five eight and the next and or state ow until the tourist three and hanging out and then went home and I began to study for my final. Didn't go well. Let me kept in touch over the summer and I think you asked me about like girl you don at a date with something you know. You're like oh. This is a cool girlfriend. I'll get the girl opinion. Oh cool I'm in the friends on but then the next year garth's apartment got rented out and he didn't have anywhere to live so I asked her ought has sleep on your couch for a few days. Talk find a place she said yes on that I never left. He never left. It was just always always very on deepened. Sweet and and as related to sort of creating this life together. We were always kind of old. Beholden Holden Boring at the end of college. Carolina went to culinary school outside of Paris when she was finished. She knew exactly what she wanted to do. She wanted to go to New York and get a job as a food editor. Garth on the other hand I know what I wanted to do guy whatever and I remember her telling me like I'm going to New York City wasn't we're moving like I'm moving there and you can join me if you want and so That's what I did well. That was the same conversation of like. I'm not saying you have to figure out what you WANNA do for the rest of your life but you do have to figure out something to do so that you're doing something because I'm not a person who like waffles. You know like I know what I'm going to do and even if it changes. I know that I'm always going to do something with one hundred percent and like just accomplish things I guess so. That's kind of why colonized probably because like yeah. I just decide things and luckily it worked out. In our case we were new city for a few years finding our way and it was the worst waiter. New York's like two weeks Carolina's. She got a job Martha Stewart and I got a job working as like apparently law firm and then we just sort of settled into life together and realize like this we want before I went to law school. We got married. We were incredibly poor me. I could barely make enough money to pay rent much less the or do anything else as far as opposing. It wasn't really anything. It was just sort of a fait accompli. We knew this is going to happen. And he bought and you propose does new years. It was not it wasn't like romantic insists. Let's do this and they did it. They got married. Garth went to law. School graduated law school and started looking for a job in New York City. Couldn't find it was really bad and So I searched further field and sound really good fit but it was in Dallas Texas at that point caroline was working as a TV producer and she was on the road all the time so Dallas didn't seem like that huge a deal. She figured garth could do what he needed to do. In Texas and she'd keep her job in New York. They do long distance for a while. They knew they wanted kids but they were waiting. They were young and they had all the time in the world then on one trip to Dallas. She was saying like weird and I was like well. Hey we should just like go to the store and get some condoms and maybe Birdseye test. Caroline had been training for half marathon and that was a huge change for her body because she was usually a couch potato so she'd been missing periods and she was exhausted but she blamed it all on the running and then like turns out that I was fully knocked up and I went to a doctor like the very day that his insurance kick did in New York which is three months after. Yeah so I was so by that time. They measured beam. That was going in there. Which is the seat of our son Henry. Now they measured him and he was three months on our. Yeah on the day that her doctor whenever fly she finally left our apartment in park slope and moved to Dallas. So yeah that's how Henry came along so no we weren't like plotting to have children. We were definitely plotting to have for probably three years from then we would have had children. We're thinking thirty two thirty three which is when he got sick. This is a bit of a fast forward here but it's important. Caroline believes the universe was giving her the family she needed in the time shed left and believe in whatever. But just maybe it was just the universes way of like this. Is Our family our two kids. It's it's everything I honestly believe. They saved my life if we had waited until when we were planning on we probably wouldn't have been able to have our second theodore because I would have been already sick time for a quick break. We get back here. How Carolina garth found out about her brain tumor So after Caroline had their first son Henry. Sheehan garth were new parents living in Dallas. It was completely different from living in Brooklyn suddenly. She's the stay at home. Mom Freelancing and working on cookbooks and she's in a city where there wasn't a huge freelancer read or seen. It made her feel a little invisible. I loved my my friends and my work and you know was people will be like. So what does your husband do when I was like? Well actually yes. I did happen to move your for my husband but I also do things with my own so I was pretty unhappy there. If you can't tell caroline begged garth every day to find somewhere else to go. She was desperate to get back to Brooklyn but then she got pregnant with their second child. Theodore was literally like Earth whispered in my ear and I got pregnant again when that happened. I knew that we could just like throw our one kid in a living room in New York City and like make life happened. It was like Oh we had this legit family and we need to plan for that. They started to brainstorm other cities. Garth could get a job at Seattle came up on the shortlist and Caroline was intrigued. She knew there was a vibrant food writing scene there. We were very into the whole scene so then with our small Henry until we went on bailing moon to Seattle and all of the pieces really like gelled felt like these were our people. The initials like a place. I wanted to move by choice and like there were like gays here narrows like here and there's freelancers here and there's a really cool cookbook. Only store which we happen to live very close to now and so we just sort of fell in love with that then immediately actually garth kind've ended up getting a job to a couple months later and then so that's how I ended up having a moving van. Come to our house when I had a two day old baby and we didn't have an address to send the moving van to like a lot of parents to them. Thought the transition to the second kid would be easy. I thought the same thing and now I know differently now. I know that every day with two small children is like fighting a war. I'm never going to win. It's real. It's a real deal like zero to one is one thing which was like pretty easy for us because like I said we were old and boring but like from one to two exploded our lives and we had no idea and I we were just like in this cluster. Fuck of crazy situation. And so that's how we moved to Seattle like I was on a plane with literally. I think like a week. Old Baby resold flash forward to about six months later December two thousand sixteen caroline had just turned in her third cookbook. Tour editors that's when she started having weird symptoms. I thought they were panic. Attacks all the time. I never had a headache before in my life so I didn't know I was like yeah. Guess this is why people get headaches. I'm like really stressed out. And my life stupid right now. I don't know and we just moved into our house and you know it was like the dark of winter and we are still getting used to that. The doctor didn't think much of caroline symptoms. She said he had you know it happens. People develop migraines like MOMS of two. You two kids like your life is really crazy. So she gave me all these handouts of like where I stood on these like anxiety and depression scales circumstantially because of my life like I definitely was like in the middle of both of those things it was just too hard to determine and then she asked me like so. You have pain in. She was like displaying on our own. Headwear like a migraine would occur like bands of pain and like the front indicating her forehead and the back and I said yeah kind of but also I've had really bad headaches and sort of the corner of my rate I and then if I was honest with myself I could also feel like this deep laziness in the back of my right eye and she was like probably nothing is probably dislike sinus stuff but we should maybe get an MRI just in case. Because that's like that's not migraines it didn't feel it took about two weeks to get her insurance to approve the. Mri Remember that when she was driving there she felt disoriented but she brushed that off. She was still new to town. It was easy to get lost. She finally made it there got the MRI you know. They discovered the seven centimeter brain. Tumor in my frontal lobe. I had not been thinking like brain tumor at all. Seven centimeters is like some school. Yeah it's a tennis ball. It's basically like the. The headaches of having was because my brain was being pushed over and had no place to move but the crazy thing was. Is that the where the tumor was? Also really distorting. My Motor CORTEX. Neurologist looked at the mlk is and they wanted the tumor to come out but at that point they still didn't think it was. That serious seen caroline was still functioning and she was functioning pretty well at no point. Did they say cancer? They thought benign tumor of some sort. In fact the doctors went so far as to tell caroline the look at the American brain tumor website but they said Stop. Just stop at the first couple of tumors. They told her not to scroll down to the bottom. Because that's where the really bad tumors were whether or not it was quote unquote like super dangerous or anything. They just knew they had to get it out. I feel really lucky in that case because it it's not like I had a choice. You know I was just told that you have to have surgery on Friday. And that's what's going to happen so you know I got to be all existential about it but it just. It was necessary surgery Friday Friday week after that was. That's how long it took to get the policy back. And that's when they knew when they knew it wasn't a benign. Tumor may told me it was a globalist. Vilma which is one of the most aggressive brain tumors out. There was the one at the end of the list. That doctor wouldn't let us look at because it was too scary. He gave me a year to live at that time. Those two pieces of information not knowing how to process them sitting there in that room with garth and my mom you know who are taking notes just who's completely overwhelming. Doctors have a nickname for this. Kind of tumor. They call it the terminator. That's it's charming nickname. Don't want adopter to use that reference to your health. Yes garth has an uncanny ability to compartmentalize disassociate. Remember a lawyer. So he was sitting there in the doctor's office with his legal pad and Pencil writing those hearing what they're saying and getting paper without necessarily processing the time the surgery very good with US thing. Getting enough ships added years. The prognosis year live. England's was doing bullet points. Yeah we were just sort of started. There wasn't any processing race for me. It was just stunned silence because nobody was expecting time for a quick break. Be Right back. We've quickly found ourselves in tough times that none of us could have predicted a couple of months ago. The economy's in a rough spot because the Kobe. Nineteen and small businesses and individuals are experiencing hard times with their personal finances too. That's why we've ramped up how to money episode releases two three times a week because people need money helped now more than ever. Yeah Joel. The virus has taken a toll on our whole world man. It's awful seem. The health impacts in the economic hardship has been really tough for a lot of folks too but we take a positive and optimistic approach. And we're here for advice and help as people seek to navigate the complexities of moving forward every week. Matinee breakdown timeless money trews as well as timely money. Information that you need to know to put yourself in a strong financial position making it easier to whether uncertain times like we're currently experiencing. That's right important money advice three times a week that you can start implementing today so listen to our show. How the money on the iheartradio APP APPLE PODCASTS? Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Carolina Garth. Were stunned by Caroline's diagnosis. What they thought were just headaches somehow turned into you only have a year left to live. What the Hell do you do with that and my way is like obviously. I do things like I fix things I make things I just. I'm a person of action so for me having this diagnosis that I couldn't do anything necessarily about. It was so hard to process and so on the way home. I decided a few things like really immediately. I decided to walk away from my third book that I had handed in and I decided to change the way that I eat entirely and I didn't know if that was going to help anything but Just was following these hunches and then I also wanted to basically just like unplug from absolutely everything I Made. Garth go home and get me a landline. Which is like. Fyi is actually very hard to do. Nowadays Yeah I basically just stepped back from everything in my life and I started doing yoga what I liked lovingly referred to as like Old Lady Yoga breathing deeply and eating gently at like really becoming attuned to why my body had to scream at me to get my attention. It occurred to me that I was thirty two at the time like. Why did I get this cancer? Thirty years younger than the typical person. What about my body gave my brain permission to grow this cancer and not that. I think that I deserved it or I caused it. I really don't that's not where that's coming from. But it's just like objectively other. People have cancer cells in their body. And they don't grow these crazy tumors. We immediately were given names of doctors and told like okay. We GonNa Report on this day for a radiation schedule. Just kind of like set on a track of what to do next so I knew that I had a month of rest for my brain to essentially squish back to its prior location and I had all these like physical therapy things that had to do during that time out. You're you're worried about. Will they tell you what's probably going to happen? Is the tumor is going to grow back when you come back in a month. That's what we're going to address. We're GONNA take another. Mri address that so home for that month. And we're just all totally freaked out trying to grab everything that's going to happen. I was reading up on trying to get as much information studies garth while he was doing research behind closed doors. I was telling him please and thank you. Do all that research. But don't tell me any of it because I really. I know what the research says. I know. It says it's like absolutely I'm going to die and I can hold that but I also need to help build hope for myself and I can't do that while staring down facts. I just had to like go by how my body was feeling that day and like listen and breast when it needed to eat what it needed to and breathe. Well you know so. It was very instinct based and that's when Caroline started writing. Not Writing Cookbooks. Took a break from that. But for the first time writing about her life and writing for her kids she got a ton of those black and white marbled composition books. The kinds people used to take notes in in middle school once. I got my diagnosis. It became clear that these might be actually the last words that my kids read of mine. I really took great effort to like mine. All of the thoughts that I was having and anticipate questions that they might have when they were grown and I was probably gone things that they wanted to know and I wanted them to know what their mom did the shape of my fighting so that they wouldn't have any questions about. Did I do everything I could answer was as I turned over every rock that I could to find some sort of answer and I followed every hunt every thought I had and did everything I could and then I wrote it all down and actually the act of writing. It was the first experience of my life where I was physically incapable of cooking. Obviously I was healing from a traumatic brain injury. People were cooking for me. Neighbors and friends and family. Everyone brought us soup. It was like really match Co. we have this cooler outside and people who dislike fill up with superb strangers and I would let people cook for me while I just wrote an. I'd never really focused on writing like that became my creative everything and I just took it really seriously that it was my job to find hope everywhere. I could continue to live. Caroline says she would have had an easier time accepting her diagnosis. If it weren't for her boys if it weren't for them she was ready to accept that she'd lived a good life that she'd already had one of the best possible times on this planet. If it was just me you know and guards I met the love of my life at the age of nineteen. I lived in Paris thrown dinner parties in foreign languages. Like I've had a pretty cool life at thirty two privileged. I've I've never really wanted for anything. This is not bragging. I'm just saying like yeah okay. If it was just me at thirty two I would have been like all right. Bye had a good run. The sucks but nobody knows when they're going to die and you know I could have accepted it but the idea of leaving my two children who I love to the ends of the Earth. It never would sit with me that they wouldn't have a mom so that that's just was it. Caroline was writing for Garth in her boys. She was writing to try to find a way to keep your voice alive for them after she passed away. But I think there was a part of me that felt I could make permanent my mothering form by writing things down. I was storing my love for them in a permanent intangible space in my body kind of became less relevant. I don't know that's I really believed that though at the time and I guess it doesn't take away the pain of the thought of losing all of those years and all those experiences but at least I was giving them the purest form that I could of my love for them and my thoughts for them and kind of storing the most positive and distilled version of myself. And that was very important at the time where you know. The focus is obviously like this. Tragic Week thing. That was happening to this strong person. It's very distracting. It's very very sad but for me I was living this like sweet life putting it into these pages for my kids and I wanted to imagine for them this world in which they could think about me and their mom and hold me in a real space as opposed to being afraid of thinking of their mother and not knowing who she was or not knowing where they came from as a part of her but writing just became this ritual this hopeful landscape that was sort of just distanced from the craziness of being a patient. I wasn't a week cancer patient when I sat down to write garth. Spas at the time gave him a lot of flexibility. So we have the time that needed to figure out how to be a support system for caroline how to be a support as she figured out a new way to live with this fatal diagnosis and their goal. The parents of small children was delimit. The disruption that the kids schedules as much as possible in his preschool. Keep busy during the day. Caroline's dad was over to help cooking or just another caregiver. If I had worked at I couldn't push off at a meeting or something is such a tightrope but really the community than we has. Why took over ten people became one to court Caroline Garth is downplaying is that he really was like this incredible caregiver because theater was still not. He wasn't a babe in arms but he was probably about a year. Which is still very much like this physical being and so. I couldn't really provide that so garth was not only battling. I'm sure the very real thoughts that he was going to be a single father while also kind of acting like a single father. Because I was you know sort of incapacitated in also very selfish. It was my job to like if I needed to take a walk around the block. I needed to go do that if I needed to go to Yoga. I went to Yoga two times a week. I wrote and all I was doing is like spending money on things that like maybe could or could not help me like homeopathy. All these things so I was terrifying my poor pragmatic husband while he was also just supporting me to the end of the earth and was amazing. I mean Henry has school and so he truly. I don't think fell to blow up the door. Who's about eighteen? Months old at the time was Definitely looking back back. He was going through some things dealing with the complete detachment and can just sort of lifting out of his life that time and so he. And I think we're up every three hours or so every single night for almost a year because he was coming I was bad in. The beginning was crawling out of his crib and took forever to sleep and so. I mean I was actually sort of helped by that because I had a very specific job to do overnight and then just sort of made it through and I got through. Just just do make it through when I was in treatment and we were first telling Henry 'cause he was really the only one who is conscious of what was going on at the time. I remember this really clearly if I answered. I don't think has changed. Which is you know mommy what happens. Who's going to take care of me and my answer was wall Henry. The same thing is going to happen whether I live or die. You're going to be raised by a large network of people who love you you know. We just listed people and that still feels true. You know it was sad. Of course it was sad but those times also offered them a new kind of clarity disagree but I think we're lucky that we have experienced because it gave us such a clear perspective on what's important and what's not allies with each other and alone and then with the kids just why needs to be focused on and went truly can fall away or fade to the background and and we're still annoyed at each other's idiosyncrasies by don't fight about him and We're better friends routing on Bruin garth Ni- are so different. I mean really. We used to joke. That were like one person that's been split into two but what's funny is because like if twenty year old caroline hadn't met. Garth I probably would have ended up with some like you know artist type or whatever who is probably more like me but I I thought about this so much because I think that it was always meant to be that I'm married. Guard is the Best Dad. He's the Best Dad. He's the best person to be my better half because I'm crazy flaky disorganized and all those things because I'm doing too many things at once. Unlike creating things all the time garth is holding everything down. He does a beautiful job and he did that. Certainly when I was sick. But that's not something that I really appreciate it in. My twenties cannot have another drink on. Let's go out so we've had hard times but I really do think that that's why that's why we're together is that. I needed someone to help me through this through my cancer but like parenting very very similar to cancer is similar to just like needing to stay organized. Like go to bed at seven thirty like we go to bed at nine and he takes care of me in ways that. I'm not capable of taking care of myself and You know I could do all of the ski things I can. In this case with cancer can do incredible things like create hope when untold that. I don't have a year to live like I. Just stick my fingers in my ears. They are not just like keep living my life. And because I'm living people told me how great that is and that's so weird but garth is always very aware of of the underpinnings of everything. Yeah I am grateful for my cancer for that and do I think that I could have managed to get there at some point probably but it certainly like happened faster and more more articulated way or like overt way on my cancer so yeah I am very grateful to it and to Garth if I had been doing it on my own. Or like we've had fights in the past where we almost split up and stuff and I think about that like what would my like. What would have my decisions have been if I was alone? Or if I was with someone who was more like me who was also freaking out and like totally overwhelmed and you know. It took the counterpoint to really survive. That saving it's been three years since. Carolina was diagnosed with the Terminator of brain tumors. I'm still alive. Yes it's very exciting. It's a very weird life when people just congratulate you on being alive. But that's why right now so yeah. The bar is very very low when you are three years out from cancer known expected you to survive. So that's now I am. I'm living so I'm three years out from high one year prognosis and nobody really knows why. I'm called a miracle casually sort of by doctors and which is like a very weird place to be real various serious. When I was sick I lived fully in these two different narratives like the one in which I certainly died and the one in which I certainly lived and held them both in my pockets. Whatever I did I consulted both simultaneously. And now the one in which is certainly die is put in my back pocket because you know unfortunately there is definitely this narrative about how. I'm surviving now and that's becoming. Its own thing. It you really want there to be certainty but there's no certainty with cancer so as always right. The focus is on being parents growing up and I hope to be here for it and I definitely do think that there's a value added experience of having mother around and I'm very passionate and therefore them like no watching. Theodore put on a dress in twirl around the living room and stuff like that. There are things that they're Julie's of being a parent that I would just like hate to miss and I would hate their joys of having a mother. I'm sure that they would. I would hate for them to miss but realistically we've created a life for them that they great great sources of love including mine even if I die through the books that I've written for them and I'm just really grateful to be able to be here. 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11 Trivia Questions on First Roles for Actors

Trivia With Budds

08:32 min | 3 months ago

11 Trivia Questions on First Roles for Actors

"Gates eleven trivia questions on first roles for actors and actresses. I'll give you the character name. The movie and a year came out. You tell me whose role it was. This is trivia with buds And welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. I'm your host ryan buds. Thanks for checking out the show and happy november. It is the ninth on the damn recording. This and my birthday was on november seventh. Thanks for all the birthday wishes on facebook and social media and all that good stuff had a real fun time with the family my daughters birth as the day after mine so we had a ton of fun celebrating this past weekend. And we've been watching a lot of tv shows and movies. Good one that we just started. It's called upload if you haven't seen that from the maker of parks and rec in brooklyn nine nine and part of the office and the good place checkout upload on amazon really good we We just finished that last night and a loved it and today's episode is all about actors like the rate actors on upload. This is called first roles for actors. You're going to tell me who we're talking about. Based the character name the movie and the year that it came out so start thinking about that also think about supporting the show got a few bucks despair. And you want some swag go. Patriot dot com slash trivia with buds. And see all the cool rewards. You can get monthly for supporting the show from one to fifty dollars in donations. Logical things on there and i am a couple months behind on sending out the rewards someone to send those out this week for the last two months of october and september. If you are on the lookout for those gifts you'll get those very soon. And i'm throwing some extra stuff in there for everybody for the delay so check that out and become a big patriotic subscriber to the show at patriot dot com slash trivia with buds where revamping the whole patriot page in january january. Two thousand twenty one. We're in have some very cool new features including a funk o of the month collectible kind of pop collectible club so get ready for that. That'll be cool. All right we're going to jump into these eleven questions on first roles for actors and actresses right now here. We go all right. Do you know these roles that made people famous question number. One glance in a nightmare on elm street from nineteen eighty-four. Who played glenn lance a nightmare on elm street from nineteen eighty-four first roles for actors and actresses number one number two george kirk in star trek from two thousand nine who played george kirk in star trek two thousand nine number two and number three mia thermopylae lewis in the princess. Diaries from two thousand one number. Three mia thermos in the princess. Diaries from two thousand one thirty three and number four white in dreamgirls from two thousand six who played efi white in dreamgirls for the first big role in a movie in two thousand six halfway through this round first roles for actors number five. Just sell you shar fast and furious two thousand nine. Who played you. Sell your shar and fast and furious from two thousand nine number six josh. Just the name of josh in critters. Three from nineteen ninety-one first big role. Was that number six josh in critters. Three nine thousand nine hundred ninety one and number seven with vilda in the professional from nineteen ninety-four mathilde in the professional from nineteen ninety-four number. Seven matilda in the professional nineteen ninety. Four and number eight. Aaron stamp ller in primal fear from nineteen ninety-six number. Eight erin stamler. primal fear. Nineteen ninety six number nine. Who played jewels in super bad from two thousand seven number nine jewels super bad two thousand seven and number ten. Who played john in halloween. H two o in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight number ten john halloween age to nineteen ninety eight. Your bonus is just the nickname of steamer in mystic pizza from nineteen eighty eight who was steamer in mystic pizza from nine hundred ninety eight. That's your two point. Bonus question for first roles for actors. All right we'll be right back in just a second to see how you didn't see if you could figure out all those first roles for actors and actresses we are back with the answers to this round on first roles for actors and actresses. Let's see number one glenn lance nightmare on elm street nineteen eighty-four. That was the first big movie role. Four johnny depp here. He is about a billion dollars later. Number one johnny depp number. Two george kirk in star trek two thousand nine. That was chris hemsworth. Chris hemsworth his first big onscreen credited role. I think he had done some australian tv stuff. Before that but nothing huge until star trek and nine george kirk senior number two number three mia thermopylae and the princess diaries two thousand one anne hathaway number three anne hathaway number four efi whitened dreamgirls. Two thousand six was played by jennifer hudson number. Four jennifer hudson number four and number five sell you shar fast and furious two thousand nine. That's gail goodell gal. Gadoe number five wonder woman herself was in fast and furious back in. Oh nine number. Five number six josh from critters. Three ninety one was leonardo dicaprio. Couple years later he did. What's eating gilbert grape. And then he was off to the races as they say number. Six josh and critters. Three ninety one to caprio number. Seven matilda and the professional nineteen ninety-four natalie. Portman natalie portman back in ninety four number seven number eight aaron stamp primal fear nineteen ninety-six first big movie role for edward norton that he was nominated for. That may be one number. Eight edward norton and number nine jewels and super bad. Two thousand seven about thirteen years back was emma stone. Ah la la land. Oscar winner emma stone and pretend john from halloween h. two o. Nine hundred ninety. Eight josh hartnett. I watched that this past halloween. And it said introducing josh hartnett. And that's where. I got the idea for this round. I'm like wait. That was his first movie. So there you go ninety eight josh hartnett number ten and bonus steamer mystic pizza. Nineteen eighty-eight was mr matt damon matt damon with steamer in mystic pizza. Nineteen eighty-eight very young in that movie and they had a guy. Hopefully you learn something fun listening to today's episode. I always like getting emails from people who have stumbled upon this show on a road trip or Listen to it on their commute every day. And what have you. Somebody just said that. They listened with their family every week. And they wait till there's like five new episodes and they treat it like a trivia night. So they listened to me. Ask the questions. They all right down the answers then they check them like they're at a pub quiz night or something so that is very cool. I love hearing how you consume the show. Drop me a line. Anytime at ryan buds at gmail.com or leave a review on whatever podcast app. Listen to this show on. And i will read those feature intros and outros of episodes. Alright we have one more thing for you called the fact. Today's fact of the day. Is that free. Kahlo created one hundred and forty three paintings of those fifty five or self portrait's about half half third or self portrait's there. You go little fun. Fact about frida kalo all right. We're going to dive out of this episode into another one right away. Remember five new episodes going up today if you're listening so check the feet. Keep on trivia plan. And we'll see you next time for more trivia with buds cheers.

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11 Trivia Questions on Snow Movies

Trivia With Budds

10:13 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Snow Movies

"It's eleven trivia questions on movies featuring snow. This is trivia with buds. Burn what it'd be and and welcome to another episode of the Trivia with Buds podcast. I'm your host Ryan Buds. Thanks for checking out my shell now. This show usually comes out every single day but I am three days behind. We had an unfortunate death in my family. We lost my wife's GRANDPA are Papa Glenn on Friday. So you've missing the show for three days. We've been dealing with all all kinds of crazy stuff and I will be posting an episode sometime in the next week or two. Or whenever I get around to it about our papa. He was a really really brilliant guy. And I have some cool audio of just videos. We made together He was an author. He published six books. You can look them up. Glen Stopped L. E. N. S. T. O. T. and he was just a very accomplished guy and He will be very very missed in our family especially as a great Granddad Dad to our two kids so if you've been wondering where the shows at that's where I've been and I will try and post a bunch episodes in the next few days to catch up But that will happen from time to time do backed up because of a life and all the things that go with it but today's episode is going to be a fun one guys. It's about movies with snow. Snow movies with snow. How well do you know these Arctic flicks? This was a round. I used it my life Trivia nights last week. I thought it was kind of fun. They're not all Christmasy movies. Although a few of them might be so some of them are some of them are not You will get a kick out of trying to answer these movies that feature snow and snow related. Thanks so we're going to jump right into this episode. Not to long of an intro here for you. We're GONNA jump this episode. You'RE GONNA play along yell out the answers you could write them down. Enjoy the podcast as whereas you will hear our eleven questions on movies with snow here we go all right we are starting. This episode showed off with a Bang in the form of Liam Nason question number one movies with Snow Liam Neeson fights off a bunch of wolves. What movie would that be featuring a bunch just snow question number one Liam Niessen fights off a bunch of wolves question number two kate? winslet and Cameron Diaz swap houses number. Two Kate winslet Cameron Diaz swap houses. Number two question number three Sylvester Stallone as a mountain rescuer number three so vaster stallone as a mountain rescuer movies with snow number. Three question number. Four a nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman. One of my favorites number for nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman number. Four question number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog. What movie was snow? Is that number five number five question number six. Halfway through this quiz here is number six. A superstorm. Hits Jake Jalen Hall and Dennis Quaid Question Number. Six A superstorm. Hits Jig Jilin Hall and Dennis Quaid Question Number Seven Michael. Keaton is a snowman amber seven. Michael Keaton is a snowman question number. Eight Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton find four million dollars in the woods number eight. I had to watch this in high school. Sociology class. Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxton find four million dollars in the woods questionable nine vampires terrorize barrow. Alaska number nine vampires terrorize Barrow. Alaska number. Nine question number ten Ryan Reynolds gets hot to try and get his high school crush rush. Number ten Ryan Reynolds gets hot to try and get his high school crush and question number eleven when the gang falls asleep in the poppy field and it starts snowing in the wizard of Oz. What harmful substance was used for the fake snow two to points if you get that one if you're playing along at home when the gang falls asleep and the wizard of Oz what harmful substance was used for the fake snow? Those are your questions for movies with snow. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers. We are back everybody with movies with snow. No answers eleven questions eleven answers here's number one Liam Neeson fights off a bunch of wolves. That movie is called the gray the gray. I think this is one of his first movies. After the big taken movie came out and people were very excited and then it was like not that great kind of a boring movie. Ends kind of weird and I I don't remember much about it. To tell you the truth. It was called though and there were wolves number one the gray number two kate. winslet and Cameron Diaz swap houses. The holiday number two the holiday is that that movie one of my mom's favorites number three semesters stallone as a mountain. Rescuer is called cliffhanger. I never saw that movie cliffhanger thing Jon voight the villain sly stallone alone. Pretty ripped early nineties number four nickelodeon film with Chevy Chase as a weatherman. Late Ninety Snow Day was that movie. This is a great film if you've not seen at checkout snow day EH. Maybe on Netflix or on demand of some kind and Chevy Chase is kind of a really small part of it but I think they used him a lot of the advertisements to get people like some recognition of if somebody because there was a lot of Kid Actors I think Josh from Drake and Josh is in it when he was real hefty as a little kid but Chris Elliott. I think it's Chris. Elliot plays a tow truck driver and he's really funny and the whole movie is Great. I love the idea of like just being off. I knowed it really makes you feel like a kid number five Kurt Russell and company invite in the wrong dog John. Carpenter's the thing the thing Kurt Russell and the thing number five number six a superstorm hits. Jake Jalen Jalen Hall Dennis Quaid. That's the day after tomorrow the day after tomorrow number seven Michael Keaton Snowman. He's been so many men Birdman Batman Snowman. Jack Frost was the the answer Jack for us not to be confused with Jack Frost about a killer Snowman and its Sequel Jack Frost to which I watched a lot from eighth grade to twelfth grade number eight Billy Bob Thornton and Bill Paxon find four million dollars in the woods. I mentioned had to watch it in school. Simple plan pretty good movie very depressing simple plan number nine vampires. Here's terrorized Barrow Alaska. Thirty days of night is vampire movie. Josh Hartnett one of the last things I remember seeing him in thirty days of night and then the Sin City. Josh Hartnett worry at Number Ten Ryan Reynolds Guitar to try and get his high school crush. Just watch this. With my mother-in-law the other Dan at flakes just friends was the movie we still holds up a little bit for my. Oh six with some of the jokes are Kinda lame but it is a fun movie just friends and the bonus for two points. What is the harmful substance? They used as for fake snow in the wizard of Oz. Poppy field sleep seen. It is good old specis. Can you imagine just box of Festus flakes floating around inhaling bestest flakes just to have some snow also the guy who originally played the tin man got so sick from the paint they used. That was like lead-based probably for the the tin man that he had to quit the job and they hired the next guy and I don't know if they used a different paint or he could just handle it or what but they did not have a lot of precautions on movies back then in the late thirties. I think it was nineteen thirty nine. This movie came out. If I'm not mistaken could be wrong anyway. There you go movies with snow thanks for playing along we do this show every day or so sometimes so thank you for listening to today's episode. Hit subscribe. So you never miss an episode. Whenever they do come out and make sure you leave items review if you like the content on the show Or let me know what you like. Or don't like in an e Mail Ryan Buds at G MAIL DOT COM. It's time for the question of the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of Sandy Miss California. They are my sponsors and they are awesome if you need t shirts printed go to FM DESIGNS PINK DOT COM. Tell Him Bud sent you a deal in what month was JFK assassinated. That's your question of the day. Tweet me your answer at Ryan. Buds are email Ryan buds gmail.com. I'm to be eligible for a prize. Yesterday's question of the day's answer was seven for the number of holes in a Ritz cracker and your trivia team. Name of the day is. Show me the Monet M. O. N. E. T. guys. 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Mini Crush #82

Movie Crush

34:44 min | 1 year ago

Mini Crush #82

"Drop the sunscreen and step away from the grill does labor day. Sale is here with massive deals. Save up to three hundred dollars on some of the latest dell alienware computers with intel core processors and don't miss sounds amazing selection of top brand electronics. I robot rupa vacuums all with free shipping on everything. Just call eight hundred buy dell visit dell dot com slash labor day. Don't miss this summer. Savings finale call eight hundred buy dell for huge labor day deals <music> welcome to movie crush a production of iheartradio radio yeah. Hey everybody welcome to movie crush. The mini crush addition to my left is no you're left yeah. I guess that's true so we're we're. We're sort of reversed. I'm facing the door. Your back is to the door so left and right up and down who knows topsy turvy in the movie crush studio. Did you listen to this week's episode or episodes yeah so funny talking about the one that just published. What do we talk about. I was genuinely laughing at the end. It was so great when we started riffing on <hes> when you <hes> you know take care of my kids. Go goes a tendency to get dehydrated spa. I laughed at no three glad. I'm glad it's fun that we can even get a little joy out of listening to these stupid. Mini crushes that we record that brings us so much joy really does says and i always say this. I'm gonna say it every time <hes>. We always do it in the morning. <hes> it's nice nice way to set the tone for it for a day for me. Sets the tone really really does tone setting <hes> so this week. No we're going all social studies social status <hes> all social studies all the time and i'm pulling out pulling out a few old old ones some of these up to a year old because they have stacked up with great comments. I'm gonna go ahead and start off with <hes> best last last line of a movie. We did this in march. It is now the end of august yeah so it seems appropriate here. We go <hes> ginny. An says is the end of a rival so moving <hes> tearing up just thinking about it was the line. He says you wanna make a baby and she says yes yeah very simple yeah but in con- context of the film issue dogging me cry. I wanna had a good. I don't know if you call it a twist. It's kind have a twist. It's a twist yeah. We shouldn't spoil it but it flipped if flips a little bit of expectation let's put it. That way flips expectation that i liked that movie. Maybe a lot of debate. I felt the same way i had made me very fa- clamps. <hes> let me see here michelle johnson after my own heart from the breakfast club but what we found out is the each one of us is a brain and an athlete and a basket case a princess into criminal. Does that answer your question. Sincerely yours the breakfast chris club. I watched that on the plane. You finally saw it i did you did you watch the whole thing and make it all the way through the short was right to orlando <hes> she watch an our of it. I watched it but i have to tell you. There's a really funny part that i wanted to mention the principal or the whatever gleeson he's a dick he's but there's a scene where he's dressing down judd judd nelson nelson in like the utility closet or whatever i make thirty four thousand dollars a year mortgage. You're a piece of trash but i love the saying that was a lot of money. Not a lot of yeah i mean i think in in the context of nineteen eighty six or eighty seven yeah <hes> that was an impressive number. Maybe for principle as it yeah. I don't know it was interesting state. It is funny how things have changed because <hes> that was <hes> we'll go ahead and say that was my starting salary as a writer it. How stuff works yeah. I think it was like thirty three thousand dollars you and after taxes are it's not very much money now. Now axes is there out of control. Yeah it's enough to like e kabbah on your bills and live spooned mouthy exactly yeah that was part that that line is not h twelve <hes> opo alec <hes>. I'm sorry alex glad niche says. I'm going home to sleep with my wife mr green from clue. You still haven't seen that one yet. Are you gonna watch the second hour breakfast. Does what i do know. I loved it. I always i've watched whole series on plane. Rides okay like so yeah. I'll definitely go back and finish all right. <hes> paul cook <hes> no. You'll look like this when fight club may not age well he says but it ends well. You met me at a very strange time in my life q. The pixies where's my mind perfection house always thought that was a neat moment because it kind of makes you realize the whole movie was really just a love story. He manufactured the whole character of tyler durden. Just as a way of getting to <hes> this love inch marlin marla yeah yeah i know people should on that movie because of its broken assert whatever but it was a very important movie to me at the time through and i still think it has some interesting storytelling qualities. <hes> mike doyle says this because because he's the hero gotham deserves but not the one that needs right now so we'll hunt him because he can take it because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian and a watchful protector a dark night s good stuff good writing david square goemaere. Did you write that. I the who i think it was. Have you ever written a screenplay or anything. Oh i gotta tell you writing. The last page of screenplay is pretty special not only only because you're finishing. That's a big part of it yeah but like <hes> you you wanna wow um at the end of his last lines are important total imported yeah with a d. Oh yeah yeah a try. I've got i've got a little book of notes of real life. Shit that i over here that i think would work really well in the screenplay. Oh yeah it possibly exists in okay. We'll see you're collecting. I like it. Let me see here. A while is a great one. <hes> lindsay livingston says eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it. How do you feel about the last line. That has the name of the movie in it. I think it's great. You think it's good yeah yeah. I mean when it works for sure but it absolutely works in that movie. I think so too but that does sort of remind me of the little bit that you showed me right now to geriatric drastic. It's been one week since you looked at me as funny but let me see here jonathan cooley from the diary diary of anne frank. I still believe in spite of everything that people are still really good at heart. What you're laying down there cooley positively <hes> old pal austin handler depending on which version of blade runner you subscribe to either gaffes last line from final cut. It's it's too bad. She won't live but then again who does adds a guideline or deckers. Last voice over a line in the monologue in the theatrical release gaff had been there and let her live for years. He figured he was wrong. Tyrrell told me rachel with special no termination date. I don't know how long we had together. Who does like the first one better yeah more succinct hits you in the heart place low quicker yes for sure stephen. Michael lind says michael corleones lies to his wife kay about killing carlo at the end of the godfather the way he coldly and easily easily delivers that no gives me chills just thinking about it yeah. That's great shows his true transformation yeah for sure <hes> ben ben harrison a friendly fire was just talking about the godfather essentially being a movie about <hes> a man and his wife sort of set amongst the world of a gangster your family but i a man being true to his wife and true to his word which is <hes> there could be an argument made for that and spent the weekend with ben harrison and adam franco of the greatest generation friendly fire. We all went to the lake together along with <hes> our booking agent that we all share josh lingering nice and the wives and boy. We had a great time. That sounds fun. We drank a lot. They're younger knoll. I forgot these day drinkers. Ooh you have a hard time with that myself. They put a hurting on me. I hung now a hanged prouty. Check <hes> let me see here all right. How about this from wyatt urp. Brooks hudgens says this because you like that movie no oh no you love. I know this is tombstone. It is the character white herb in tombstone. Yeah isn't that <hes> delivering the final line who plays wider that's kevin costner no he played wide open wider shit who's in tombstone <hes> val kilmer valley he. He's your huckleberry <hes>. I don't know look get appropriate cool but here's the last one. I haven't seen that in a long time. Tell them i'm coming in. Hell's coming with me. That's good not bad. It's it's <hes> it's kurt russell. Oh of course it is and sam elliott is in it as well playing an picturing the mustache now and kurt russell. There's a lot of herbs in this yeah. There's virgil morgan urp played by bill paxton. How about herp derp. There ain't no there's no hope derm jane longshore our old pal says says from ghostbusters. I love this town yeah. That's a good last and what's the what's the one from chinatown that just says the name. Louise lewis laid the china to forget about it about its chinatowns chattanooga yeah. That's another good example. <hes> matthew a trotter says the great gatsby so we beat on boats against the current born back ceaselessly into the past and then we'll finish up with kyle knocks one of the great iconic last lines ever or noel from back to the future. I'm sure you know it by heart right. I know a lot of it yeah for sure. Do you know the last line no wait treated. You know now what happens at the end. I don't remember you. Don't remember the back to the future. A lot of things happen at the end. Oh it doesn't again. Let's say back to the future. No where we going. We're going back to the future back to the future chuck. That's not what he says us. It's like in the middle of the movie. I would say the the end dot comes back from the future right. The delorean is now a spaceship right and he's playing all the stuff we go will. We won't need road where we're going. We don't need to say i need a little prompting back to the future back he he does say that in the in the middle of the picture though he does because he he does that great look at camera. I'm going to send them back to the future man so funny. I love how you blanked picked on that so hard. You looked so scared. I well. I mean i 'cause i knew i should know it but it was. Just you know how that is when you're like. It's your your brain tip of the brain. Put join the spot. You're still a little flustered. I'm not chuck. I'm fine. I'm easing into it. Okay ease and i got a call with waka flock aflame at ten right. I'm a little stressed asked about who's that he's a rapper. Oh yeah yeah you gotta call with the flocks. He did <hes> that song hard in the motherfucking pain. I don't know any of us about basketball. Yeah that's what hard in the pain and when you go with him i would. I'll see what i can do. Is that what it's about yeah. Maybe possibly very nice. That's insider shit. 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This is three hundred and eighteen comments and we'll just buzz through some of these dave linquist says demolition man with the headsets wearing headsets and i don't remember i walked out of that movie some kind the future sex gets back to the future just ex <hes> our oldest pals stehlin carlson says bradley cooper and michael ian black doc in wet hot american summer. It's the one series part of a very silly movie asks three masks. I think no they're not wearing now. That's that's in. I'm sorry that's in and the the new the reboot or whatever no com yes. I know exactly what shocked me up and he said it's <hes> usually anything <hes> gay which he put in quotes in a comedy means. We're the butt of the joke but not this time now. It's really quite beautiful. It is is a very nice scene. I agree. I think they <hes> that was a pretty fun choice to just be like. Let's treat this as a really romantic. Mandic love scene between these two guys was great and it worked well in context of the film that was otherwise very silly <hes> derrick tindall mild friend from high school cool and elementary school. How about that. That's exciting shocking. How are you guys have reconnected <hes> now. I mean just on facebook but yeah derrick have known since i was six in. He's <hes> he's a dp now. I think he lives in. I think north carolina and is a director of photography so our careers have aligned somewhat <hes> funny enough so how you doing derek derek concealed friend. He says this. I'm surprised no one mentioned out of sight. Boy derrick just listened to the episode on that one. Maybe it's more of a seduction scene. <hes> <hes> no i mean there is a sex scene. It doesn't really show them getting down but i count that and he says let's not forget some of the hilarion skin deep especially the glow in the dark condoms adams skin deep and another film. I don't either really quick. Check just not to derail but did you know that <hes> the director of tombstone was is a guy named george p qasr mottos and his son is panos cubs machos who directed manning one of my favorite pictures so what did his dad direct tombstone. Oh interesting and i think that he he worked on it. When he was a kid. He was like a deep he was like a or whatever yeah yeah interesting neat. I like that no thrown up. Knowledge <hes> part of the neces- squad vanessa cashman says true romance when clarence and alabama in the phone booth with dick ritchie on the line loved the shoes on the phone books chantilly lace playing you have it's pretty classic zine. It's fun and slightly hot probing a phone booth jam. You know what i mean absolutely tracy driver mccarthy the thomas crown affair pierce brosnan and rene russo over over <hes> all over his house in staircase. Oh my and she got a lot of likes and loves for that one and even some comments. I don't think i saw that was what's new <hes> the thomas crown affair. Oh i saw the original i did not see that remake pierce brosnan yeah and commented kim merritt says one of my favorites tracy see rene russo was sexy af in that movie she is sexy. I like her in general yeah. Very beautiful has a good up poised kind of wish carries yourself. I really like yeah shows. She always seemed like a classy broad. That's what i was getting at yeah. We're getting everyone. We didn't really call ladies broads now unless it's ingest ingest they are if it's like the fifties right carolyn gaston. One of our oldest friends says there's a lot i hate about it now. <hes> woody allen that is the cheating storyline put match point the blisteringly hot appearing of scarlett johansson and jonathan rhys meyers bisexuality reaffirmed flames uh-huh yeah. That was a team that was a hot movie. There's a couple of hot scenes in that movie. I haven't seen him match. Point was very good very good film. <hes> old pal dylan thomas the poet says i don't really have a favorite but my wife says the hottest of all times i was racial mcadams and ran gassing the notebook yeah she's. He's just have to see everything. The chemistry is incredible. I think they like they were really in love too so that helps. Is that the one in the rain. I feel that was certainly arraigned shot in comer box yeah. I like the notebook a lot. Yeah people people i've never seen that people really liked a sucker for it very very kind of classic romance very well elected and then you've got the them as older people with the general wins in james garner and it's just you can't watch it without bawling like a baby yeah i. I can only imagine i quite enjoyed it. I'm going to stand up for the notebook anytime <hes> gene sharp says the montage and deadpool yeah that was good that woman the actor has the longest neck very swan like long neck. I never noticed. I can't remember her name. She she played remember the homeland <hes>. I remember that there's a there's a there's like you know the one from the eighties sure and they remade it <hes> she she was the alien queen and really took may took great advantage of her long neck alien alien lake yeah. She's very pretty gorgeous. Regis could actor yes for sure. I like turn homeland <hes> brendan reese. One of our powell says <hes> the first terminator. He said it was rated r. in for me. My first onscreen topless scene for him. Hotshots is definitely in their watchmen in the second matrix wchs speaking of which feeling about the fourth matrix coming up well. You know it's funny always matt fredericton. I recording the matrix right after that's cool and i asked him yesterday and it was announced yesterday about the fourth yeah he was like dude. How did you know of course they didn't know yeah. I don't know if you'll i feel great if it's great because i mean the second third ones were not that great. I i try to imagine they don't exist yeah. That's why i live my life. That's probably a good way. Maybe maybe the fourth will be like really cool. It's only lanta. I guarantee your mcaliskey so i'm not sure why not involved and that worries me a little bit really. I don't know <hes> my my thing. Is i bet you they're like okay keanu blowing the world up with this john wick situation. You know he's obviously still got it sure. Let's make another matrix. Now is the time people low had a lot to do with it and love that property yeah keanu especially with <hes> toy story four. He's like super hot rain out of the never you know what's funny is what what a baby he was in the matrix. I'd kind of forgotten now when i saw him. I was like a little baby. Can i know it's true twenty fucking years ago yeah. It's you believe that and what a movie colds up. I disagree really listen. I this is the debate amongst me and and a lot of my friends. I think it's very important great movie. I i think the acting is a little b movie level church schlocky but that's sort of what it is it is i think the special effects suffer from the fact that they've been copied so many times since then when you go back and watch the original and you see that bullet time stuff it just looks kinda hackneyed in like over overdone but it's not the movies fault because they're the ones that do the first time but i watched it with my kid and she was like this looks cheesy. You know 'cause it because she's seen all of the you know the the retreads of it or whatever but i do think it's a very very important film. It took sifi smart sci-fi and pushed it into the mainstream kind of in a really cool way linked sir. I don't know that's just my take think matt and i will have a different conversation probably think you might be right. <hes> let me see here felicia. There's is an old friend felicia <hes> trujillo brian hope. I pronounce that right. She said good luck chuck. She's not a great movie at all but the sex montage really crack correct me up sometimes a funny scene. Is you know it's a look can be a lot of fun. Yeah remember that one and the naked gun movie where they were in the full body condoms <hes> <hes> <hes> sure naked gun too. I guess i'm not sure ashton mc darris young answered for his wife and himself for his wife and his black swan pretty hot movie and for himself. It was pearl harbor with kate beckon sale josh hartnett. I'll i never saw pearl harbor. <hes> it's terrible yeah is it struck me as like what's his face bruckheimer trying to do a titanic yeah. That's what it was. It was michael michael bay michael. Excuse me breakfast probably produced it. Oh that's right. That's right. It was terrible it was it was dog shit. Okay one of the worst films enough okay. I left. I went and saw the movie theater peter just because i wanted to see the attack on pearl harbor because at the time it was like a you know a spectacle to do a big attack scene like sure and i watch watch that scene and then i left the movie theater because it was all this kind of bullshit manufactured dog shit yeah sorry romance guy so bad. <hes> descript is just beyond awful. It was written by an a._i. But as well <hes> samantha rossetti one of our old friend says eminem and brittany murphy and eight mile dir dir dir- dirty raw and short i agree <hes> dan maynard says mcgruder. I never laughed so hard during sex sex scene. You really need to watch chuck. I don't know why haven't seen a group or haven't either here. I love my gruber. The lonely island guys that made the movie. I didn't even realize that until recently. I gotta do it. This is one of the things where that's so off my radar. I'd never think to watch from a gruber yeah. It's it's one of those window passed and it's not like high on the list. Have you seen hot rod. No i haven't seen hot rod either i had so that's the thing you kind of have to be forced to watch a movie like that and that's what happened with me and hot rod like the group of friends that are like you haven't seen hot rod and they made me watch hot rod and i i loved it. It's so funny i we're. We're going to go through a few more of these. <hes> edwin gear eve's says hands down the room funny sex scene in movie history <hes> allesandro craig the mayor says the train scene in risky business pretty hot from my last whole session <hes> you may know that i have not seen risky business yeah yeah. It's very hot on the subway sabrina mira <hes> firming. You're says on the stairs in a history of violence. Yeah it was good because is there like fighting before that right. Weren't they like odds and i liked that when there's when there's sort of tension or whatever you know what i'm saying i'm saying when the tension kind of turns into a very intense <hes> physicality goodness <hes> alejandro alejandro may green says blue is the warmest colour yeah. That's that's a that's a that's their doozy. That's a doozy <hes> <hes> chris edwards loaded weapon. One from national lampoon must be another funny one and then we'll finish up here with steven michael lind says all the puppets sex six in the happy time murders a movie which i refuse to see how it looked awful. I got terrible reviews. I think they got sued by the jim henson yeah i he didn't wanna see it now. I think we've done this segment once before and we probably already talked about it but there's that scene in <hes> in our melissa with with the puppets yes <hes> a very very human normal <hes> sex scene very unremarkable in the best way and i'm pretty sure we talked about it. I want to throw that back in the ring. If you guys haven't seen that yet really recommend that one absolutely drop the sunscreen and step away from the grill dolls labor day sale is here with massive deals save up to three hundred dollars on some of the latest this dell and alienware computers with intel core processors and don't miss out on an amazing selection of top brand electronics like i robot robot vacuums all with free shipping on everything just call eight hundred buy dell dell or visit dell dot com slash labor day. Don't miss this summer. Savings finale call eight hundred by dow for huge labor day deals all right buddy. We're gonna finish out with <hes> one. Final social studies favorite bad movie and this was posted in february. We're going to start off with lisa pollutes the grease two i it also love greece to cool rider as well. Lisa love me through and through spice world christopher galvin. I love the cheese of it. He says i never saw spy world. I would love to see spice world yeah because it's like it's such a slice of than of what that period of time sure you know. I bet you and your daughter would have a lot of fun watching spice world. I think so too and it's also worth thinking it's funny. Oh yeah for sure. We think it's funny but i also think it's it's like they got a movie. They were they were a pop group. Who got a movie yeah. That doesn't really happen very much anymore. Now beatles the beatles yeah the monkeys. I guess the jonas brothers got movie. Did they have it as more of a concert movie. It wasn't like them now. I gotta have hygiene yeah. Kevin having gordon says empire records so elementary storyline and one dimensional but damn i love it <hes> now jin blossom songs fire what's wrong. It's it's <hes> hold on shit thinking other gin blossoms songs all right. I'm gonna drive all over town. Let the cops chase race around the gym blossoms them but the one from empire records was drum roll. Please to hear it from you. <hes> don't take advice from foods better something play. Hey cool. I don't know that song. Wow that's vampire records. Those kind of big the big song from that movie former guests met <hes> bronner comedian has a funny a bit on the gin blossoms that song hey jealousy like the most white privilege song ever totally drive all over town that the cops chase us around that's hilarious <music>. Oh boy that's just for funsies be at a high speed chase with the police because we're young. We're wild then. We're white exactly <hes> samantha stark says the the labyrinth wonderful eighties movie full of david bowie's bulge a lot of bulge in that and <hes> old pal william angus says i think you've posted in the wrong thread because it's supposed to be about a bad movie yeah well. I mean look collaborate isn't like it's not great well and the puppetry is wonderful. The acting is quite bad. I think everyone's <hes> definition a bad movie. It might be different. I think you're absolutely right. <hes> krista prices buffy the vampire slayer. The movie looked period but hey but it was the it was the bad movie that launched a grimness empire. Yeah i mean i'm not being dismissive at all. I just think buffy the vampire. Slayer is one of the most kind of you've smart <hes> feminist kind of like we're focused shows ever and it's great. It was like in the late nineties early two thousand in this crazy yeah some of that. I wasn't like part of the buffy cult but i got into a little bit. <hes> kyle knocks break into electric biglou and teen witch. No teen witch benjamin b morin says hudson hawk bruce willis is hunt for the perfect cup of cappuccino was ridiculous fun. You had a lot of up lakes for that. That's one of the legendary bad movies <hes> alec <hes> alex gladsden bitch always alex sorry about that bud says joe dirt is it's bad but genuinely heartwarming so they're <hes> let me see here. <hes> old pal the danger of gail kunz. I have to the rock ohio. I love this movie and <hes> godawful terrible. The cutting edge as a skating movie has got to be right gotta be. I think so yeah. I don't wanna i don't. I don't know what's no it is because <hes> in the comments christine. <hes> hostetler says 'to pick so that that had to be like an ice skating of case. Gotta be like the ice skating d._b. Sweeney that was cutting edge. Definitely an ice skating movie love it. I think he played like a hockey player that gets hurt and has to be figure skater. That's funny. I guess but it's also like i. I don't know i guesses hockey player. You got to have a lot more brute strength but don't you have to be pretty serious tip top physical shape to be figure skater too. It's not like that sort of like a like a downgrade c._n._n. Like i don't know yeah but she now in a movie from that time period at it took a big tough. Hockey guy has to wear tights. Oh yeah i'm sure they play that for laughs. I'm sure sure has he fall in love fall. I bet he's got to you got. No movie otherwise our oldest pals in top van debbie frangiadakis says pump put the volume eighties christian slater always will have her heart <hes> old pal jamey mallory says howard the duck. Maybe okay. I'm not sure what that means. Maybe i mean i just remember the duck the lady dock that has boobs like anatomically really yeah yeah duck boobs boobs but human boobs on a duck puppet creek. It's called duck breast. That's well. That's that's different chuck. Some people put that on a plate. I i know and it's a it's a delicacy but this is not that at all. This is something that shouldn't exist in the world. <hes> susan partington says is joe versus the volcano a bad movie. No it's not but she says i love. It seems like some people hate it and she had a nice little discussion with pokes mattielo good movie <hes> abigail gonzalez. I love that movie barb bechtold right brilliant movie jeff clark now. It's honestly a great movie and a favourite of chuck's totally michael griffith when you really fight volcano well. I'm gonna tell you the ending but he is <hes>. The plot of the movie is that he has to sacrifice himself into the mouth of a volcano to appease the gods. I see because he's at the end of his life and he wants to die. Nobly great great movie check it out yeah by no means a bad movie all right. Let's do like a couple more here. Christina martensson marston says troll too. I can't believe it's not supposed to be that bad. Oh my god <music>. That's the best part of that. Is that troll to troll to not trolls. No it's troll to okay edmunds central orchards or maybe it's just a documentary about troll. Two is called best worst movie. It's about the making of that movie the guy that's the star of it is like a dentist like he was a non actor. Everything everything about the products in that movie is is bunkers. It's great all right. Yeah i saw the first one second. One has nothing to do with the first one as well as total. It's a total <unk> departure okay. They're they're. They're they're the end up. In this town called nil bog <hes> nil nil spelled backwards is goblin big reveal when they figure that out it's like a it's reflected in a mirror and they're like wait. I meant it's and it's a thing it's goblins but the movie's called troll right. There's all kinds of and i don't even get me started on troll role to man. I need to check that out. The documentary's really fun. I need to see some of those schlocky movies but again. I'm getting to the age where i'm like. Why do i wanna waste my time with that. When when i can watch mcgruder well shawki movies are fun you only mystery science and you're watching any of those sure i love that but that's the added element of the comedy on your funny johny chuck you can you can be that guy. We could do that me and my friend mark in arizona. When i lived in yuma for a year he used to sit around and turn the volume down on tv t._v. Shows in just improvise the characters and stuff they were saying it's all fun could improv exercise to all right. We'll finish up here with jessica michnik rubinstein great name she says idle hands and don't tell mom the babysitter's dead remember that one both terrible in hilarious yeah a good step everybody all right. That's all the time we have knowles. Gonna go get his walkup. Laka on good luck with that. Thanks and and we'll be back next monday for you. See them for more podcasts from iheartradio visit the iheartradio app apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows how did snoop doggy. This murder case what drove kirk cobain suicide was bob. Marley's stone cold oh killer. How did sam cooke really seriously power. The dudes in mali crews still alive can hear these stories in disgrace land the podcast about musicians getting away with murder behaving very badly hosted by me. 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