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"josh gibson foundation" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"One of the things that the families has done, we have started our own alliance, which is called the Negro leagues, players, and families alliance. And so with that being said, you'll hear more of us working together as one voice. Promoting illegal leagues, promoting our descendants and just getting to more awareness of these great players. And I would say this where I turn with a tad, you know, you know, the pandemic, you know, we had a bad year in the pandemic. In 2020, but I think it also brought a lot of us together. There's a lot of people I have met I will never have met with this whole campaign process just going through the pandemic. A lot of things has changed during a pandemic, a lot of things has changed on the whole black lives matters movement. You know, some people feel as though that negotiations would not be going to Major League Baseball record books if it wasn't for the Black Lives Matter movement. And so the pandemic in 2020 was an interesting year. And we were going to try to capitalize on that and bring these all these guys to Ted, do you have anything to add to that? Well, yeah. We touched on, well, first of all, Sean's right on 42 for 21 is not going to be static. We're going to publish this list and then now here's where we do need to recruit others because I'm not a writer. Gary's an excellent writer. What little I've read is Sean, he can write. I'm not a writer. But Gary's intent is for us to publish monthly might be a little ambitious, but an article, of course, Ben, you certainly can submit, but we will be posting with an eye towards the hall, but not necessarily just the hall. So that's one aspect. But I wanted to comment about other improvements to the hall system that we can advocate and one as Sean was talking about the makeup of the voters. The whole their vet com typically has Hall of Famers, executives and writers. And God bless them all of them know their baseball, but the Negro leagues go back now 75 years. So if you watch them as a teenager, you're 93. You know, so there's really not too many people who have a great knowledge there. So I think it's important to bring back an expression. I don't like using, but a segregated committee, you know, segregated segregated to Negro league expertise and about segregated to Negro leaguers only. In order to get this job done right, these are players who were punished by segregation, and now they're punished by integration of a Hall of Fame ballot. And that shouldn't be allowed. There are 37 now players in the hall as Negro leaguers with Biden buck just joining that list. Of them, 33 of them went on from segregated ballots. Only buck and bud and rube and ray dandridge went in from integrated ballots. So I think that's another improvement that can be made to the current system as ugly a word as segregation is. I think it's necessary because of the history of the country, unfortunately, prior to 47 and continuing through this day. As you noted in the press release, you're not necessarily saying put all 42 people on your list in, although I guess you probably wouldn't object. But you also write there even if all of those 42 were to be added to the Hall of Fame it would still bring the percentage of black and Latino players from the segregated era to 34%, which is ten percentage points or 22% less than the 44% representation of black and Latino players in the integrated at era. So if you just go by the math, it seems like there is a lot of ground to make up there potentially. And of course, you did not have opportunities for a lot of black and with players to play during that era, at least at a high level in professional leagues. So I guess that makes it more difficult, but even so there's a long way from proportional representation there. And a lot of great candidates who are still outside the black room there. And as the press relief mentions, we're not looking for proportional representation 30% would be an improvement, of course. But I don't feel that there's what's the old remedy quota. I'm not looking for a quota system here because that would also limit the number of entries and I'm not so sure of 42 covers everyone. I just want to give a fair and just look at everyone in wherever it falls. It falls. Certainly 17% doesn't do the job. Well, we wish you both the best with your efforts and we will link to the press release and the list of players from the poll results. And of course, you can find out more about 42 for 21 at 42 for 21 dot org. You can also find the Josh Gibson foundation at Josh Gibson dot org. We have been speaking to Ted nor and Sean Gibson. Thanks very much, guys. Thank you. All right, we will take a quick break now, and when we come back, we will be joined by doctor Sally yerkovich of Columbia University. We'll tell us what the.
"josh gibson foundation" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"There have been other life lessons to that effect. This has been a weird little intro for me, isn't it? We're leaving it all in. I don't know, guys. We're toward the end of the year. Very tired. I didn't expect to be tired admitted to summer. I don't know, anyway. So those ones rankle for me because, you know, especially with guys who are trying to sustain momentum or pick up momentum or really close and deserving and you know it has a negative impact on them when that stuff happens. So I don't know. I struggle with whether we take the whole thing too seriously or not seriously enough and depending on the day my answer can change because there are moments where I'm like, but you know like a person is waiting to find out if this great honor that they care about is going to be bestowed on them. You just send out a blank ballot, man like talking to that. And then there are other days where I'm like, we just need to unplug this discourse and plug it back in because it's so so serious it's going to collapse under its own weight. You know, here's an episode that's entirely about the Hall of Fame. Yes. And I don't want to be too self serious. You're right. No. But it's not an easy decision, but it's ultimately not like the highest stakes of anything in the world either. It's just high stakes when it comes to baseball, I guess. Yeah. And as I've said in the past, it matters. It matters a great deal to these players and to their families and to the fans who rooted for them. And so I think, you know, having some reverence for that is appropriate, even if we can kind of properly place it within the broad spectrum of things that we need to worry about in the world. This does matter to people, and so we should make sure to try to do right by it. So, yeah. And I would never send in a blank ballot. Either send in one with some names checked or not sent in one. Yeah. As I decide which of those things to do, I'm planning to make a little pilgrimage to cooperstown at some point before the end of the year when these ballots are due, because I haven't actually been there since I was a kid, and I don't really remember it all that well and it's changed a lot in the intervening years, of course. And I'm hoping that if I just stroll through the rooms and look at the plaques that maybe that will bring me some clarity. And I live in New York State, so I don't have to cross the country or anything to get there and I won't be too far away from it. Maybe in that week between Christmas and New Year's Day we'll go and take a little tour and see how I feel. And we can probably leave the ballot reactions alone for a little while. We will link to where you can find those things. They are very well chronicled and of course you can find Jeff's continuing coverage at fan graphs where I was amused that he just lumped in but Clemens showing and so into one giant post that would stay. It's like, just get this out of the way in just one go. Let's not string this out here if you want to read about these guys. Here they are. Yes, just the lump payment. So that's there if you want it. Yeah, Jay's thoughts on that little group are well documented and have been for over a decade. And some of it, I mean, is some of it sparing us having to run individual posts for some of the more noxious members of this class. I mean, like, sure, but also the real constraining factor was that because there were two era committees that met this year. There really was an actual crunch in terms of time because it is important to J to profile everyone on the ballot before ballots are due because I think that he does offer a perspective that voters find useful and he takes that responsibility seriously. So that was the 95% of it. And then 5% was that we have sure talked about that group enough. I mean, some members of it more than others to be clear. I don't think that everyone is quite as noxious as the rest, but all right. Well, let's get to our guess and we won't even take a break, let's just roll right into our first segment. We are joined now by two of the three people behind a new committee called 42 for 21, which is bringing attention to deserving Negro leagues and black baseball candidates for upcoming Hall of Fame at elections and trying to ensure that we won't have to wait too long for those elections to occur. One of our guests is Sean Gibson, the executive director of the Josh Gibson foundation, whom we had on last year to talk about his campaign to get the MVP award renamed after his great grandfather, Josh, Sean, welcome back. Thank you for having me, man. I'm glad to be back. And our second guest is longtime Negro leagues researcher and writer historian Ted nor the founder of sabers, Jerry maloy Negro league conference hello Ted. Good evening there, Megan and Ben. And we were supposed to be joined by Gary Gillette, who is also involved in the committee, but he had a power outage not long before this episode. So we will talk to Sean and Ted and guys if you could give us some info on how the committee came to be and what it stated aims are. We will link to some information and press releases that you've put out. But I don't know who wants to take this exactly. I think I'll take that. I'll go first and then Sean can jump in. We were inspired by Sean's yearlong effort to get the major league most valuable player aboard named renamed after his great grandfather and the experience that Sean brings for the past year is he's a very valuable of the three of us he's been beaten the bushes for a year. I bring a modicum of experience in Negro league history, and Gary is our Jack of all trades. He's, you know, an overall baseball expert and he's our political person, so I don't know how much help I'm gonna be..
"josh gibson foundation" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"One nine from one thousand nine hundred sixteen against the philadelphia buttocks then from two thousand nine hundred against the orioles and the orioles again. You know the orioles. Have something in the red sox. Which is why. Taylor pulled out the robert in dino sand and the open because he wanted to flashback to that point it's it's really weird The big hit in that game last night. Last one for you ryan mount castle getting the orioles started with his thirty third. Home run. What's your sense in the wild card race or do you need the rookie of the year race in the american league. You know it's interesting. I mean i think he might win it. You know i mean. I was really pulling for and hoping we might see wander franco when before. He missed some time with an injury. Just because it's amazing when the number one prospect of baseball plays like the number one prospect in baseball when he gets to majors. But i do think that those two weeks that he missed sorta per his case when of course he had fewer games played to start with but he did tie the record. It did the for the on base streak for twenty or younger at ended last night game where he did retrace twice but he didn't reach base safely Which is just a funny thing with housetops. Work when you reach on narrates not to send that straight But i think that while he was out you know mount castle kind of solidified that i know a scarcity is going to get some votes but his season was very first half heavy and i know he also homer lots night but a lot of that came in the first half so in my eyes. I think it's down to wonder. Franco and rhyme castle luis garcia's going datum votes pitching wealth for the astros for sure. But i think that's more in that kind of third-place ranch right sarah. Thanks for doing this. And i think what needs to happen is that you need to spray champagne in your mom's is trying to win the division. What do you think. Oh my gosh. I'm so down and maybe we can. I'll tell her to cut this off comments early so can be a surprise when she listened back mesa. Drive me buster. She's air bottom. Is the chief executive of our weekly quizzes. The graphic artists who's gonna be sending ballfields all across america. All around the world or you can go to his website. Tom dot com todd. Worry today i am in beautiful pittsburgh pennsylvania. It's a wonderful morning and let me guess. You're going to ballpark today. I am going to a reds pirates game this evening at pnc park a jewel of a baseball stadium located on the which rivers that. I'm not sure. But i'll find out later. Because going to the game with the Shawn gibson. Who is the great grandson of the legendary josh gibson and he writes Yup he runs the josh gibson foundation. And if you're going to pirates game you got to go with some pittsburgh royalty well and and josh and is definitely Pittsburgh royalty for sure that that's really cool. That sounds like it's going to be a fun night All right before we get to this week's quiz. Let's talk about this week's forgotten franchise buster. Of course i had to do this. This week's forgotten franchise the negro leagues homestead grays are celebrated as one of the greatest clubs in history winners of nine straight league titles from nineteen thirty seven to forty eight. There were eleven official world series in the negro league era nineteen twenty four to twenty seven and nineteen forty two to forty eight and the grays played in and won more than any other team with five total appearances. Three victories so in preparation. For this week's assertion i reached out to shawn gibson who i just referenced And great grandson of the great hall of fame catcher josh gibson starred for the grays and he gave me some noteworthy fax to share so starting out in pittsburgh's homestead neighborhood. The greys were originally a loosely. Constructed team of state youths who played similar neighborhood teams under the name of the blue ribbons at times sponsored by establishments like the carnegie illinois steel mills and the harbison walker brickyard. The team eventually became known. As the murdoch graze in one thousand nine ten players met to reorganize the team as semi pro squad to play local white clubs and other company based nines and possibly influenced by a common employer with many of the players. The homestead steelworks. They renamed the team the homestead grays so the homestead grays had two homes are kind of like the the tampa bay montreal race. They played in pittsburgh and washington from nineteen forty until the club disbanded in nineteen. Fifty one owner cumberland posey struck a deal with washington said or owner clark griffith to share the grays with washington. Dc as a financial benefit to both parties and as a way to provide washington's large african american community with quality team in negro lead. Laura buster the are considered to who to.
Families of Negro Leaguers rejoice in MLB's decision to recognize league
"On wednesday. Mlb announced that it was quote unquote elevating negro leaguers. Two major league status within its official historical record which helps explain why google searches for the name. Josh gibson suddenly started spiking. Baseball says it's figuring out how to include negro leagues statistics into its canon of sacred numbers. And there is no resume quite as legendary or as mythical as that of the late josh gibson. The catcher that satchel page once unambiguously deemed the greatest hitter. Who ever lived. So i called up shawn gibson. Josh's great grandson and the executive director of the josh gibson foundation to understand what mlb's decision to elevate his great grandfather means to him. Well first of all. I don't like the word elevating. I think it should be more of a merger because niggly baseball player or major league players as well. So that's first and foremost this. And i want to bid tuesday night as josh gibson's greg grants and i woke up as josh jacobs. His grandson asher to cerebral calls questions about this happened. Literally when people say happen literally overnight it literally happened overnight and to wake up and see that in lobby made the announcement and josh gibson. Now what we consider not just one greatest league baseball players he. He'll be considered one of the greatest baseball players of all time and so for us in our family. It's a great honor. Ona understand josh. What you heard growing up from family from friends about how your great grandfather considered his own career compared to those who had the opportunity who were afforded that opportunity to play in the majors for jars. You know and the other great negro baseball players you know. They knew they were great players. They didn't even know by to tell him that it was just a decision At that time it was in that era. that kennesaw mountain land is denied the opportunity to play in the majors but did not stop him. They barnstorm against a lot of white baseball players. And you know as well as we know. I know is that a lotta times. They beat the white ball players in. So that's something right there. And so when i totally stories just in our family. There's we call josh gibson big josh. 'cause josh gibson junior of course is the sense that you can't say jockey get confused. I wanted to ask you about one of big joshes more famous nicknames. He was called very famously. The black babe. When you hear that sean about your great grandfather how does that make you feel you know. Let's say this bridge. Stevens bakers great grandson. He's one of my good friends. We go back and forth back and forth on this all the time. I didn't know that okay. Tell me about your relationship with him. And what you guys talk about on this regard. That's great so burn. Stevens is bait roof. Great grandson and so we always talked about. You know josh gibson's compared to my grandfather. And i'm like well that's what you but if you ask me about. Bay roof is a white josh gibson. So we go back and forth. Is we always say our people always say Yankee stadium was called the house. Ruth bill in ice t's brent are okay but who hit the furthest home running stadio i give them on that one. Well i mean. I want to even push that. Story further sean. Because i grew up going yankee stadium. He's the only human being to ever hit a fair ball out of the park out of the house. That babe ruth ledley built. I don't want to rub it in his face to. I don't go that far. I just say the furthest rebel. We all know he headed out. The ballpark. we know is over near babe. Ruth kane close no all seriously. I've heard several stories two different stories. I heard it. It's out of the ballpark. Been a heard from some players that hit like the top tier of moammar. So you wrote a piece of the undefeated in august about your grandfather's name being on the mvp trophy. And that may have been unthinkable at one point but now it does feel like there could be momentum towards that. Why is this important to you and your family. Then the peak kinda fell on our lap on. This happened to read an article about terry pendleton barry. Larkin and mike schmidt. Making a case to remove kennesaw Mountains landers name off the mvp award and it gets to okay. Well here at a names that they're considering replacing the name with in his frank robinson branch rickey and go shoot josh gifts literally again on the phone with my board directors. I said listen. We just found herself in a race. Let's see how we can win it so for us. I'm hoping that the vwa taking consideration of this and really think twice when they make a decision to rename this after josh gibson but this mvp war if this may not. The jaw is just about josh gibson. This will carry on the legacy of all the other great players as well. Who were denied the opportunity. So josh gibson is carrying several thousand players on his shoulders but his vp award the page. Family the buck leonard. Cool up a bail family. Turkey stars fan oscar charleston. Family all great players will all celebrate. It'll be named after josh. But every time i speak about this i'll make sure represent all the family members who were denied the opportunity