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Bloomberg Radio New York
"josh gibson" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Congress in May. I'm Lisa Taylor. A special school board meeting to fire. You've all been Texas school district police chief Pete arradondo is being canceled. There was a school board meeting set for Saturday, which included a vote on his termination, the district cited due process requirements as the reason for the cancellation, and redondo told a House committee earlier this summer. He saw spent shell casings on the ground when he arrived, but believe the shooting had become a barricaded person case, and not an active shooter. President Biden's COVID symptoms continue to improve, correspondent Mara Barrett shared Saturday's official update from White House physician doctor Kevin O'Connor. We'll continue with pax lovit as planned at the antiviral, the president has been taking his symptoms will continue to be treated supportively with oral hydration, Tylenol, and the albuterol inhaler that he uses as needed for a cough. Doctor O'Connor reported that the president's tolerating treatment well sequencing results also revealed Biden has likely come down with a highly contagious BA 5 variant that's responsible for 75 to 80% of the cases in the U.S.. A small town in North Carolina will soon have no full-time police officers, all of the department's full-time officers in Kenley have resigned from their positions, leading the public to wonder why Kenley police chief Josh Gibson says he and four other full-time officers quit because of alleged negative environment caused by a new town manager. I'm Brad Siegel. A California woman accused of trying to steal a baby from a California hospital is now facing a second charge for that same thing. Scott Carr has more. Reports say 23 year old Jesse Amir and is being charged with a second count of attempted kidnapping, the original incident happened at the riverside university medical center on July 14th where she allegedly posed as a nurse and tried taking a patient's baby, hospital staff caught on and helped avoid the kidnapping, leading to mirren's arrest. Now she faces a second attempt at kidnapping charge after investigators say she came back to the same hospital and allegedly tried it again later the same day. Police said she was unsuccessful when the mother refused to give up her baby to mirin. I'm Scott Carr. Police say a man wanted for robbing a bank in South Carolina is arrested in Virginia after losing his wallet. Here's Scott kimbler. Lieutenant Ryan flood of the Greenville county sheriff's office says U.S. Marshals have arrested 42 year old Christopher McNeill in Virginia, investigators believe McNeil, robbed a Wells Fargo Bank in Greenville to I 11. He's also believed to have robbed a bank in Lake city, wi FF is reporting that that is where investigators say he dropped his wallet. Thus revealing his identity, it is expected McNeil will be extradited back to the palmetto state to face a host of charges. Scott kimbler. And now shutter private school in Northern California and three of its staffers are charged with involuntary manslaughter. The case involves the death of 13 year old autistic student max Benson. It date backs to dates back to 2018, prosecutors say he died after being restrained for almost two hours. After school officials say he spit at a classmate, it happened at guiding hands, a school for students with special needs in El Dorado hills. For the second time this week's swimmers forced out of the water at rockaway beach in Queens, New York due to shark sightings, the city's parks department put out the tweets Saturday afternoon, warning beachgoers that they were not allowed
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"josh gibson" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"The best player and best pitch? Yeah, it's been ruined. Here's my last question for you then we're gonna go. This is very important. Okay. Because my dad sent me his Boston Mount Rushmore. Oh, okay. Any other teas as the Red Sox player, which I did too. So basically, we grew up our whole life, Ted Williams is the greatest hitter of all time. He's mister Red Sox. Ironically, made one World Series and we lost that World Series. It kind of symbolized the Red Sox. He went 5 for 25, I believe in that World Series. Yeah, but it was like classic Red Sox. He's like, we've never won a World Series, but we had the best hater ever. Now, maybe we didn't win the World Series of them, but he was the best that ever. I think Ortiz took the spot from him. And I don't even think it's really debatable, but I do think some people I know Ted Williams, four of 6 and 1941, he's got to get this back. To me, it has to be Ortiz. You know, and even Ted Williams himself to his infinite credit, you know, said, like, this Hall of Fame doesn't really mean anything if Josh Gibson and satchel page aren't in it. So it's hard, you know, the steroid era is less corrupted than stats from a pre integrated baseball era for sure. You know, I couldn't agree more. Yeah. So and as somebody who championships is always going to be my deciding factor. So, you know, my Rushmore, it's funny. This is just a byproduct. Obviously, if I was a hundred and a 150, instead of in my 50s, I would probably have Bill Russell as myself. But growing up with Larry, it's just hard to not have Larry and then Brady obviously the goat of his sport, Bobby or the go to the greatest the greatest hockey player ever lived. And I mean, yeah, big poppy, it's just you had to watch it and live it every day to understand how he took this cursed moribund dead culture and transform it into like you literally expected to win. And we literally went from how are we going to lose this game to what is this guy going to do to carry us to take us home? Yeah, the three spots are secure. Brady Ortiz and then the Russell bird thing feels generational. I personally think they probably both have to be in for different reasons for me. It's hard for me not to have bird on there when it was like a religious experience.
WCBM 680 AM
"josh gibson" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Josh Gibson baseball card from Eclipse Books. All six items are yours. Hey, Luigi, Are you a baseball fan? You have any question for Leon Day? I just, You know, I've read about that. You know the Negro leagues and everything, And I think his records were fantastic. And I want to congratulate and one is, uh, on everything he's done on his accomplishments Got flush everybody Thank you very much now, before we get to some of those other prizes, I must pull Todd Bolton on the microphone. Come on Over here, Todd, Batter up air time. How's your curve? Ball there, Todd? Alright, Mike a little more towards you. Yeah. You got to speak right into that microphone area. Don't be afraid of that. You can eat it up there. As you probably know. This is the beginning of black history month and one good way to celebrate. It is taking place on February 8th and ninth in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia at the John Brown Museum. It's called the Athlete in Black America, 18 50 to 1950. It's called. It's a symposium and joining us here to tell us About it is Todd Bolton, chairman of the Negro League Committee of the Society for the American Baseball Research. Did I get that right? I'm a member. Dick Clark is our chair. Oh, the Negro League Committee is going to beat me up. Now that I made you, chairman. I'll protect you, honey, We'll get out both your bats. Yeah, I got my Leon days. I am alright. Friends. Todd has been limb owed around with Leon Day this weekend and again, we owe our thanks to Chesapeake Limo Service and Ron runoff. Todd, who is sponsoring this symposium. It's being sponsored.
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"He'll always regret his failure to include players from the negro leagues among the ghost players. Which you know looking back now makes me feel like that's enough to relegate this film to the aspen of history and it's not something that we should continue to celebrate say remake field of dreams. Call it feel fuck. Y'all and have cool papa. Bell and josh gibson oscar charleston and judy
Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
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Sports byline usa. And here's host ron and good to have you with us. For this hour of america's sports talk shows sports byline. This is going to be a very special our because we're going to talk about the negro leagues and some of the people associated with it through two authors. Who have written books about it. I'll tell you who they are and about their books in just a moment but be sure to check out our award winning website you'll see that sports byline dot com and we got a lot of neat things on their one of the things that we like about sports byline dot com is how interactive it is and if you don't have a chance to listen either sports byline or any of our other network programming. All you have to do is just go to the website at sports byline dot com and you can have them podcast. Which means if you can't catch my show. 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He passed away of course Recently but buck o'neil was one of the real icons of baseball. He's a man that grew up with the negro leagues and the author. Joe posinski spent a year on the road with the iconic negro leagues player and manager. Bucko neil the ninety four year olds a counters scores of fans and the vast repertoire of entertaining. Stories in this book recounts neal's baseball. Memories of legends like satchel page and willie mays and josh gibson and then right after that failed. Peppy will join us. He has a book out called few and chosen defining. Negro leagues greatness across the eras and pepi is the author of more than forty bucks. And this is the latest book in the ongoing series of few and chosen titles in the book. Looks at many of the great negro league players that crossed over to the major leagues like willie. Mays and hank. Aaron ernie banks larry doby and satchel page. It's a fascinating look at baseball. So good to have you with us. 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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Baseball at that time. I think one. The things i did did struggle with and realize those finding Good inaccurate documentation of negro league games and barnstorming gains at the time I found you know there was definitely a lot of advertising. You know come. Satchel page to kenosha wisconsin or whatever. Those are great But then you telling what happened in the game and opinions. They just weren't something that were covered in white newspapers. Mainstream newspapers in the early part of the nineteen hundreds. So i found myself using the pittsburgh courier and as a main resource which is an african american publication in pittsburgh You know historical you weekly newspaper And that was where i was able to find a lot of the accurate reporting Meagrely and black baseball and social issues. you know and everything like that so it was. It was very interesting to say. See the ballot and coverage. You know things that weren't covered by mainstream media that were covered these these african american publications and the reverse as well. Well was the importance of baseball to the african community. african american community. How was it looked upon. It was a huge part. You know as huge as as wait. america you know it just wasn't always publicized and and celebrate it that way nationwide within the african american community. Those games were huge. And i think one of the things that sometimes gets lost with You know white owners pushing back against integration. You know there were definitely had their racist reasons for doing so But also a business reasons you know when when they go out of major league teams on the road they were renting out their stadiums to the negro league teams and drawing out dry some of the major league teams in some instances so there was a tremendous amount of interest in the negro leagues. Without question. i mean it was enough to fill stadiums East west all star games. That they had were were drugs And you know they were covered by mainstream media as well so There's never a shortage of interest Had the barnstorming or to these african american teams can travel all over the country to any little town in america. People were coming out to see them black and white. You write about how. African americans have influenced baseball from the eighteen hundreds to the present. Give me a thumbnail description of how they've done that you know. I had a great conversation about that with pot cancer. Extra president of the eagerly dan. I flew out there and interviewed him and he said you know he put it great. He said you can go back in baseball history to any point in time and they're always african american stars. They're always black. Players for people can look up to you know whether they were black or white you know they just didn't have that opportunity to play in major league baseball. You know there were. The legend satchel teenage reached out. You know beyond just major league baseball. A bill josh gets and cool papa bell so they were always people to look up to just the point where they finally got into major league baseball and now they have a wider reach You know people were able to see them. Look up to them. And and i really do believe that that was a very Very big aspect of Of major league baseball players African american players as kids. Young black kids in the fifties and hank aaron and they wanted to be like You know and then it led to a boom in the seventies and eighties You know things like that. Kinda easier to perpetuate through the generations. You mentioned about cool papa bell and josh gibson and other names like that i don't know how much of it was Was fact it. How much is just a reputation that got out of out of bounds in sense. Tell me a little bit about the some of the great players and what they did actually accomplish. That's a good point too. And there's definitely a folklore. Do give negro league than barnstorming and the those players you mentioned. Cool papa and and satchel cage and just kids center mule suttles hidden you know. Five hundred. Eighty put homers but You know the documentations on the more structured leaks the negro national league there are stats We get major league. Baseball is gone to recognize These rarely stats as a major league. Which is great You know it's never going to be a complete picture Their records are incomplete There there are boxers that exists or are storybooks against But but you never really know you know. It was the league's were loosely. Organized time Barnstorming didn't necessarily count. So you know it is. It is kind of a. I'd say you know complete picture and that element of folklore that we just probably will never get a full full you know. How fast did satchel page pitch out. How far the judge gets fifties home runs over. Lying is these newspaper articles and stories that have been passed down. Tell me a little bit about. What was the toughest part in writing this book. That's a great question. And i i the toughest part for me was keeping in mind that You know it's too for two hundred and thirty facebook it's the size of the normal bobble But i would like yeah. There were definitely subjects. That i would loved to do a deeper dive into But couldn't do that. Because i'm trying to incorporate over one hundred and fifty years of baseball so you know tennis. The role of kennesaw mountain atlantis. In all of this. I think really deserves a very deep dive You know a and kind of on a bigger scale you know. I wanted to really kind of dive into where the tower was with integration and segregation Landis is the figurehead. He was the commissioner of baseball during the white periods. But there are a lot of questions about that. You know i think to me. The real power lied with the owners. landis you know while he you know he absolutely stood in the way of integration. You know there are some you know. He has positive relationships in other areas with african americans. he was business. Partners are here. They are very good close. If rube foster who founded the negro leagues each stood up as a judge for many You know on the right side of many rachel incidents so but then yet again you know seen as has the figure that kept baseball white for all those years you know and then there's the question You know landis died in nineteen forty four. You know there were team. That didn't integrate ten til ten fifteen years down the line after that. So what does he really the guy standing in the way. You know that. That's something. I would have loved to dive deeper into But just the restrictions on on doing a comprehensive time line. I think that was my biggest challenge. It's what to include whatnot to include. You know where to cut down. Rocco constantino is with us. We're talking about his book. It is an excellent read. We're gonna make it a selection of the month on the sports byline book corner checking out. It's called beyond baseball's color barrier the story of african americans and major league baseball past present and future we continue with more of you and sports byline..
WCBM 680 AM
"josh gibson" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"I'm Dr Bob Parana, miss our guests, Ted, nor and we're ready with this question. Where you surprise date last year when Commissioner Manfred Announced that the Negro leagues were being considered a major league. And how did you feel about it? Okay, well, I was surprised by the timing and when I woke up that day, it was not on the top of my mind, especially during this terrible year we were having with pandemic. However. I didn't know of the thought. And one major league baseball announced which they did an opinion. Lindbergh COLUMN earlier that year. Uh Is that it was thinking about it. A e don't think it would have been possible, particularly in 2020 for them not to follow through with the right thing. So I wasn't surprised that it happened. I was surprised that it happened on that marvelous day and December 16th was definitely the The best day of 2020. That's the way I felt any way too. Yep, it's been, and it's taken such a long time. But it came so quickly after iftar looked like we We're going to get there for one reason or other. And so What? Where do we move from there? Well, first, it wasn't universally, uh, a potted, of course. But I was very happy that most That to my ears of the disagreement came from Negro League supporters. Oh, criticizing it thing for late being late. But of course The alternative was for it. Not happening. Oh, yeah? Yeah, And they criticized by whether authority does Major league have to declare the Negro. There was a major league and I I'm in sympathy with that thinking, but it was the same authority that 50 years earlier. The major leagues designated six Thank you gated white leaks as the major leagues and did not even consider because I've asked officials Do not even considered the Negro leagues. 1969 So whether you like it or not. They not only had the authority but they used it to the detriment of the Negro leagues. So I don't think they're redeemed yet, but I hope they get there. The Negro League players. They already knew they were major league, but it's nice to get the AKA pack a lot. And it doesn't forgive the sins. I don't think that was the intent of the Negro leagues. So where do we go from here? Well, there were three announcements Well, two announcements that day and a third left hanging. Number one. They know that the Negro leagues were indeed a major league. That meant that six White segregated legs were going to be joined by 77 Negro leagues. Now there's 13 major leagues, and that's That's great if the whole fame is going to be an educational institution. This helps them educate what was going on in baseball and and in the country. In the first half of the 20th century. Blood and the second thing and I don't mean coop of this. The integration of the stats into the major league Baseball cannon is also a good thing. And because of the work of Larry Lester, Dick Clark and the Saber Negro League Committee and seem head And in the future, Really? Life sports Bureau is the iron the stats up. We're gonna be able to compare not just the stars, but Mark Blanchard is a good example. We're gonna be able to notice Jakey Stevens of Hildale with the Mark Palander of the Negro leagues. Spectacular glove. Uh, I am not much of a bet. Although They both could come through under pressure situations. But this is part of what we've missed with Negro Leagues. Legends are wonderful. Uh, but, uh, being told that someone staffed is in the speed of light on only goes so far, and it actually served in my opinion caricature than a Negro leagues. Allowed thunder guns. I cleaned that up there a little bit, Bob, but sunder guns tol to dismiss it. We're now when you see that Josh Gibson might not. It is many home runs of the base. Because of the number of games they play in league games. But it is great is faster than nobody has Ah, higher rate of home runs during the segregated era. Then Josh Gibson, other than the paper. I was surprised when I looked at that because I thought Jamie Foxx probably would have been number two. But he's not know skips and Josh Gibson is second. 5.9% of his plate. Appearances are home runs, and these are the kind of things also Leon Day he will now become the second picture. Uh, I have no inner on opening day. Way already talked about rap. He's gonna be The record holder if he passes muster and because they are going to scrutinize these things. With 14 straight hits, Vic Hair's going to be the winningest manager percentage wife. The guys with more than 900 gangs managed So That's that's a big thing. But the third announcement that didn't happen. And this is frustrating because it's about what I spent the last two hours talking about On December 16th major leagues were joined by their historian John Thorne, by Bob Kendrick of the Negro League Baseball Museum. By the Life Sports Bureau by Team Heads by baseball reference, calm At the National Baseball Hall of Fame was not represented. At least I'm certainly not aware if they were at that announcement, and that's the third announcement that has to happen. Or Negro League Baseball players need to be put into the baseball Hall of Fame if they're gonna do their job of educating the public about baseball between 1900. In 1946 well, when they certainly have the material. The Negro leagues certainly have the material toe. Put in another 10 or 15. Yep. And I respect that answer, but I would double it. Okay, Well, you want to take 30 or 40? Yes. Okay. Why 18% of the players in the hall under segregation or Negro Leaguers? Oh 43% of the hall Since since Jackie Or would it had been Negro leagues or non white? I'm not saying you gotta match. It would take 70 some players the match. I'm not requiring that there's other factors involved. In fact, maybe it should be 80 or 90. I don't want to be limited by that number, but I know 15% certainly needs to go in and if they want to take a short cut, there's 22. Person who's on the ballot. From 2006. They could put all in That they don't like that. There's four players on the all set the centennial team picked by the Negro League Museum in conjunction with a private sector group, and I can't call the name but Jake Odd Well, does an excellent job piling it. And before I just want to name these four names They're on the all century team that are not in the home is only four. Pick reading and John down from his pictures. Bucko knew the manager Mark O'Neil. Yeah, and there's one position player, Bob, and I think you know who that was. One position player When position player I didn't the whole on the centennial team. I hope you've been listening to me for two hours. Oh, grab diction. Is that the guy you're talking about?.
WCBM 680 AM
"josh gibson" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM
"Nor And we're swinging our bats here. With rap Dixon. I just hit about 4 60. Uh, e rap was hitting sometimes somewhere in the four 4 50 something like that. Is that correct? Yes, he is. Best year. I think it was 4 15, but I could be off. Well, you're probably right now. I'm probably wrong. I wouldn't go quite that far. Okay. All right, Then. You were wrong. And I'm right. Just looked it up. I'm sorry to report that I was right. Okay. Okay. All right now, by the way, I'm getting all excited here, but where we left off here. Legends. Yes. And I'm gonna give short shrift here. July 5th 1930 Yankee Stadium open doors to the Negro leagues. Seven years earlier, Babe Ruth hit the first home run in Yankee Stadium, and it's been forever known as the house that Ruth built. Well, until I fit 1930. You probably know who did wrap Dixon hit the first home run by an equally lingering Yankee Stadium. And I call it. How's that Dixon Rehab? That's a good piece of poetry there. I guess it is on that makes it fun. I That's especially 30 to Charleston again, showing how much like rap. He already had Josh himself Judge Wilson, Judy Johnson and really fussed or on the Crawfords. And in such my kid Now, the last piece of the puzzle he brings in rap Dixon so Wrapped IX and is on the first. Great It's for Crawford team, and in fact, only Josh don't hit him arguably. That year. 1933 the Negro leagues the same year the major leagues, didn't they start with an All Star game fans? Vote the team and wrap his voted to the very first East West Classic. The outpost both bullet Rogan both battle wattle Page. Yes. Oh, And as a zoo again, serendipity would have hit him in Charleston. He's on second. On Charleston's On first they pull off a double steal. It's the first steel in the All Star Game history. He's elected again in 1934. But as we'll see in a few moments, he was actually hurt badly and probably didn't deserve the ghost statistically and 34. But he had pulled just kids is buckling and radio hundreds to the Johnson and Ray Brown in that election. But overall, he was an All Star six times on Lee twice in the East West Classic. But six times named by, say, composing or roller Wilson or in the case of the classic fans. Now we get his pivotal year. 1934 Him and Josh Travel to Puerto Rico. Josh leads the league and hope the Winter League in Homer's wrapped leads in and steals and then a team code conclude Ium He's a player there. One of their young stars done, John Mine's future Whole thing on Eagle eyes. Oh, boy, John has to leave to go to spring training. Of the ST Louis Cardinals. He wouldn't debut in the majors for another two years, but he had to leave Concordia. So they want Josh. And just won't come without his buddy, so they get rap. This Can Korea team had Martine de ego? Hui. Happily, she 00 Sr And Attilio Vargas, also in the outfield. And wrap it 3 81, and they went on to win the Caribbean title that year. A measly 3 81 measly 3 81 now Here's where there's a puzzle here. We don't know when rap got hurt, but we knew he got hurt over the winner. He hurt his back terribly and never was the same player now. Known to the baseball world. Of course, with that injury, I have to give you one more Oscar Charleston Plug. In February of 1934. Yeah, you know, drab. Having left his proper team. He wanted them back. He offers cool Papa Bell. You filled up your stars for rap ticks. Oh, my. Oh, my Now there's another compliment the stars at Bolton and their manager, Webster McDonald. They don't think cools good enough price. They asked for the young 20 year old catcher Josh Gibson. Oh, sorry. The pecking order there, according to I'm pretty good judges of talent because Greenlee Oscar Charleston it Bolden leads to McDonald's. Is Josh Gibson Rack ticks and then cool Papa Bell. Okay? Now we move on to the regular season of 34. Unfortunately wrapped is not Playing much, but he is doing something great that you know all about. And Leon himself told me about it. He is Leon Days. First manager is a pro. And I met Lee on the same day. I didn't meet you unfortunate, Bob. I heard you speak, though at that museum. If you know the year I'd love to know it had to be 91 or 92. But it was a great meeting and you gave a great presentation. I think it might have been on the ballparks. It's not. It's not that it was on the black socks. But, uh, Leon and I got the chance to talk because Paul Dickson gave me his phone number Paul's phone number to give the Leon and that that put me on a mission to talk to him and Beyond, said rap was the best man for that job of his first manager in the Negro major leagues. He wouldn't come in as a player because he claimed he hadn't really seen him. But years later See a book. I think it's called Cool, Papa and double duty and in it, Leon gives I'm sure he did this often, but one of his versions of his old time team And he puts wrapping the young, so I love that Leon Day. I think he was a good judge of talent and saber in their scouts book They credit wrapped Dixon. Was actually being the scout. It's signed Lee on now, I don't know if that's entirely accurate. But rap boys his first manager, and I was privileged to talkto Leon about rap. Wow. Okay, That's a real important piece of knowledge that I think it is too. Okay, one thing when you move on anymore, Oscar Charleston. Could you describe this man? Yeah. Well, I mean, if you thought when I think of a baseball player, I don't think of Oscar Charlton, even though I think it was one of the greatest But I mean, it was very large guy. Yeah. He's about 591 90, dear. It is Find out. We're playing days. He was a great manager. I think he's second team in the career pole, and some people think it is the greatest manager. He's a great player, and his stats speak for themselves. And Bill James ranks on Lee Ruth and Wagner ahead of them, And I'd like to Steve Wagner in terms of segregated era. Joe Posnanski. I think I think sees the same way he just gave his top 100 of last year. But Charleston is also a great Out, is the first legal eager to move into scouting for a major league team when Branch Rickey signed him to ostensibly scout for the Brooklyn Brown Dodgers in 45. Were longer. Charleston is instrumental in the integration of the game. So that's a pretty good, simple play right there, player manager and scout and it's as a scout that he's making his judgments on rap. Dixon and Again he names rap is the all Time center fielder that he ever saw. Had enough about Charlie. Yes, I just always have thought of him as very one of the most intelligent of the o years. Yeah, and well read, etcetera, and that kind of thing, No doubt about it Well read and he hung with The upper crust. He did not finish high school. But he married a professor, his wife and a daughter of a preacher. And and he was he was the high society led or let's put it this way he could cry. Those thresholds. He wasn't bashful with only hung with and But his book and you Jeremy Beer if you want. I think he'd be a great interview. He just published his book on Charleston. And he visited Harrisburg. So Jeremy would be a great guest. Maybe so, Yeah, maybe such wrap up wraps..
Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"About the trade. I mean the only thing the only thing they could have tried to sell and speaking manhattan. It'd be like buying manhattan for beads. The only thing they could try to sell would be. Yeah he'll be there for a few months and he'll really fall in love with it and he'll sign right but and i agree with you. I think i'm i'm unsure about most things in life but olympic. I'm positive about s steph curry and his career unless he descended playing last year career with the and we wanted to go home quote unquote there there. If he signs at the lakers i would be able to put knock me over with a feather. I don't see anything in that. But real quickly. You had the gentleman on before talking about the league. I always been fascinated with the player. Josh gibson just because as a youth when they talk when they were like i i didn't know about the negro league growing up and You know it was never talked about never after and when when he was referred to as the You know the black babe ruth i was like. Whoa who's this guy. And the fact that he hits I guess on Eight hundred home runs. But not i don't know if they counted them Count the only counted like to fifty. But there was a guy. I knew from From pennsylvania when i was growing up and he's said that josh gibson was the greatest player in the history of baseball and he would just argue it an argument and i give that guy credit. Because that's before. Ken burns or anybody else came out with some of the stuff. But there's no doubt that the guy was one of the all time greats and the book i read about him. Obviously these like official tape measure but when he played in the puerto rican got to go down there over the side. You know there in the winter. They apparently whatever stadium. He would whatever the stadiums were playing. They would Beyond the stand and beyond going all the way back in the trees with ornaments hanging from them and apparently if you talk the locals out there that's where his home runs with land and they were all close or a lot of them. Were close to that. Six hundred foot range now again. You don't know that's folklore if that's you know a wives tale but you know it's just it's a cool cool. Think about any young young man. Thirty four thirty. Five brain tumor. Yeah brain tumor news. Like thirty five from what i remember. His grave didn't even have tim. Stone until the seventy s and any. I think you've had it unofficially. Three sixty three fifty eight hundred fifty nine six sixty. I was always fi. Because like you said like your buddy. Said he had the greatest player ever said. I never heard of this dude and Anyway that's all i. It was kinda cool here about josh gibson. And the negro league gets definitely Something i'd like to educate myself more on and read about Anyway down buddy. Charlie makes the comment. I appreciate it. Yeah and you know. Those guys didn't get a chance now. That's the people who say you know babe ruth stock because he played in a segregated lead. He didn't stink but yeah the competition would have been better. There's no doubt but listen. I'm just glad they finally. He is in the hall of fame now partner. So i'm just glad they're finally recognized as a major league only took over one hundred years. Our kittle come on back..
Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Is definitely in that category of you know solid You know amazing ballplayers long career Managed as well really just you know. Wanna be big names you know. They're all the formation of the league through the fifties and definitely just over. You just don't see people like that such astounding careers played with numerous teams managed numerous teams lobby and all the same. I think it is you know. Say the of fame didn't recognize this. You know quite early on was inducted in seventy six point there. There really weren't many negro league baseball players that were inducted into the hall of fame. And even now there are. But i will give the all the things you know props to to recognize that way back which you know very right should be recognized for. Yeah i got to go a couple of years ago and they made some strides one last question for you do you. I mean we we have these things legends that you said it's it's amazing and it's terribly sad that these guys don't even have one picture themselves but the the mule suttles six hundred foot home run. How how true do you think that will that old wives tale is or did he really hit a six hundred foot home run. I have no reason to doubt it. I mean you hear stories about josh gibson hitting balls out of stadiums these guys. These guys were were amazing ballplayers and you know. Compare a guy like he'll settle someone else in the major leagues. At that time he was he was probably better. You could probably hit the ball further down for a second awesome. And you your ted talk about this topic of an imagine right. Yeah all right very cool. It's camper on p. e. r. r. o. n. Make sure to check out the book. It is called comeback season available now from gallery books can. This is a great effort as a baseball fan myself. I think it's tremendous work so i applaud you. And congratulations on the effort man. Thank.
Lace Out AFL Podcast
"josh gibson" Discussed on Lace Out AFL Podcast
"Into the whole whole saud would eat the oppo. Jeez i think a maxi ghonim rock would be a great nap hundred. There was always more or will. I won't get magic wand place the magic wand than that's now he's now he's actually pretty good 'cause these first few years he these days so he didn't get the smashing bashing the first us two thousand and fifteen when breakout damn against long danny mellanby jones the first harming goodness knows it absolute styrofoam guy but you know there's an absolute star your absolute style. There's people listening to these gonna tell you what talking hoax. I don't know what they mean because listen to the official stuff from this is the one that will wanna get into and i find out more bit. You can listen wakened. I watch zero. Tom to show on my friend demand. Thank you yeah. So linked trade link dot so link. Ti dot es slash token hoax. You'll find all of our social media they or you can go to Dot com websites. coming coming along nausea. But we've got the denver grandeur barris sponsorship on the moment on the page. But we've gotta look will be bringing back We had campbell brown josh gibson jordan lewis wholesome dip. We had we had some marvellous guests last year on Lewis cracking whole phone athlete. You're the guy minister. Why jay was onboard quarterback. So we've loved having some amazing guests. We had stephen gillum. I'll why Premiership players well so Just decision to cap it off. So we've got a few Widening the wings and if you came to listen to some hoax banta. How many bring you good questions. Which love hopes and we love having a good chance. Full the fans the fans and With connecting hopeful fans around the world. With what we're doing so Had just on youtube and An advice book. If you're talking books now it's not just jews part of the showers relative that you'll you'll.
Wendell's World & Sports
"josh gibson" Discussed on Wendell's World & Sports
"Winning six lebron's winning four. Those are much more impressive than bill. Russell who went eleven championships. Big fucking deal newly end the play. Eight teams okay. Fine you wanna go ahead and make that erroneous ignorant Compensation discussing point argument all right. Well then i don't wanna hear anybody talking about the greatest baseball player of all time being babe ruth. Why is it that babe. Ruth get to pass for the era when he played when we talk about the greatest baseball players of all time if people who know the game follow. The game loved the game in love. Sports in general always wanna have these topics of discussion about who the bachelor the bachelorette the best in baseball. Either they mentioned mickey mantle. Willie mays since he just died. People might mention hank aaron. But you don't get too far before someone brings up the name babe ruth and they talk about the seven hundred fourteen home runs. And they talked about his dominance in the era that he played and they talked about the fact that if you never picked up a bat he was still be in the hall of fame because he was one of the best left handed pitchers for the boston. Red sox before he got traded to the new york yankees and went to wa being a outfielder in full time. Okay fine no doubt about it strong accomplishments. Biller demand all right. Well let me ask you something. How can use denigrate or reduce the excellence of bill russell. Because of the iran played the number of teams that he played but yet still give praise and glory and respect to the accomplishment of babe ruth when babe. Ruth didn't play the best players of his era because of segregation. And i'll say i'll say it again. Babe ruth hidden seven hundred and fourteen home runs every playing against players from the negro leagues. The negro league players were able to come in and play in the major leagues babe ruth. When the able to hit seven hundred fourteen home runs he would have a gang of them he would hit a whole bunch he would have been dominated he will have been awesome. He will have been legendary great he would have been a social icon revolutionary and move into society. He would have been all of the things he would have been. Impactful down the ballot. But his dominance would it be mitigated because other great players whether have been coming into the league and he would have had to face him. I don't know i wasn't around. There's no footage anybody who can debate. This is probably. They are dead. But i love to hear the argument babe ruth or josh gibson from those who saw both i would love to hear the argument oster charleston or honus right widener love to hear the argument of. Who was the better baseball player in terms of the negro nikolay players who are great in the major league players who are great during that time but we cannot discount either. Forget about it disrespected. Don't give it enough credence. Whatever you want to save when it comes to babe ruth babe babe ruth were gonna do the same shit about babe ruth baseball player of all time regardless of iran. He played against. How are you going to go ahead. And not down bill russell. Because he the only played in the league that had inter nineteen. Oh and by the way. Guess what that to be used for an advantage for bill russell. Because you're talking about the league where there's only eight teams. there is. No such thing as watered down because there's only eight teams so the best of the best. Just imagine how much better the nba would be instead of having thirteen. We got down to twenty four or twenty two. Just think we could get rid of the hate to say it but this year they stink so for the sake of argument. Just say for instance we can get rid of washington and minnesota and orlando and Who will stinks allowed this year. I think of three or four other teams about those players who are on that team right now. We dispersed them to the twenty four twenty two remaining teams. Just think how much better. I will have any horse in this race. I live in vegas. We don't have an nba basketball team. But think if the sacramento kings and the washington wizards and the orlando magic and miami still going to be good. They won four in a row. But if you could just you know slice off the bottom six or eight teens in put those players on the other twenty four hundred twenty two. How much better would this game be to to watch so yeah in some essence. It's not about well. He only played six to eight deleon. Bill russell played a league that was only eighteen because of the yuli played in the league. That was eighteenth. He had the face. Jerry west in elgin baylor in walt bellamy in may firm in in wilt chamberlain and all of those hall of famers. Your face them. Eight ten twelve fourteen times a season. That's a little bit harder. Ain't it ain't it. I think so so. I don't wanna hear that nonsense about. Oh yeah bullshit. This amount sense you know. Tom brady and jordan. Kobe and lebron jeeter and peyton manning. All those guys. You're doing so much better than bill russell. Because of the era that they played in that. Make them better winners. I mean you wanna debate better players have at it but as far as winning is concerned. Leadership is concerned. I i don't know what the amount of teams being in a in a league has to do with that so winning is winning and winning is winning. Winning is winning. You understand what i'm saying. Winning when does world of sports. I'm your host window wallace so glad that you could be with us speaking about the legendary the great bill russell so not only what does man tremendous unbelievable legendary iconic an american hero just based on sports it will but just based on the way he played the game basketball then you know whatever but the fact of what he did for civil rights his activism in civil rights this was demand in one thousand nine hundred ninety became the first nba player to visit africa. At the decolonization movement was spreading across the continent. He stopped and visited liberia in ethiopia. In fact in the classroom in liberia. Story that i saw a bleacher report. A student asked russell why he was there right well. Bill said that. I came here. Because i believe that somewhere in africa is my accessorial home. Well i came here. Because i am drawn here like my man drawn to seek the land of my ancestors when the students stood up and cheered. Russell broke down and cried. Man's deep is deep in one thousand nine hundred sixty one lexington kentucky exhibition game the I think it was. I think it was less. It can kentucky or someone indiana back in the sixties right. Yeah this is gonna turn out for welcome so nineteen sixty one less than kentucky a restaurant. They wouldn't seat the russell. Casey jones sam jones says standards all of the black celtic players. Right before an exhibition game. They were afraid they were there. Looking honor frank ramsey white teammate. Play that kentucky. What championship under our raging racist in a up. So the celtics went to lexington knew they. We're going to get a good crowd. Today's where the nba played the exhibition games. And you play. The exhibition game played a regular season. Game in these guys were sitting out. These guys weren't playing fifteen minutes and everything i mean. Russell the starters and everything they're playing stuff.
ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"josh gibson" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"Okay, so I subscribed to like everything that's a fun. All right, Whatever way. Whatever. You just coughed into the microphone, and you're supposed to be a professional. Turn your mic off and clear it out before you talk. Yeah. Professional? Yeah. I don't know about that. Well, then what are you doing here? Then? If you're not a pro, pal, what are you doing here? If you're not a pro, I'm about to blow your mind. Okay, let me let me finish here. Don't you don't interrupt. Know Bernie's book Bank that orb $1. Get it out. I don't have any money. That's a lie. You have money again. Many did not take every dollar your wallet. Go over there. I'm watching you get the dollar out and put it out there. Bernie's book Bank that or I only have a five. All right, well, all right, then I'll cover your next four. So okay, put the fire out. There will keep. We'll keep that if your co takes this five. Can't say I physically assaulted that get killed. All right, there's a five. It's going. How much cash Erica walks around with in his pocket. He doesn't need your five. How much does he walk around with he is he always says, you never know. When a poker game's gonna break out he comes prepared. Yeah, he's got $2000 in this sack. South side. I'd love you to poker against him. He'd be the fish at the table. Oh, take that York anyway, so I subscribed like everything My wife will always say. What do you subscribe to that for? Because I read it. Why do you get that? Because I look at it. I've got you name it. I've got it. But Koda standings from baseball Prospectus are something I love to read and that website baseball prospectus. Is awesome. And as a baseball fan, I love reading their contacts. So this morning it popped up in my email. And then I had a few people tweeting at me, Cat Man. Have you seen this? Pecota standings. Are they run their proprietary computer program for every single player once 95% of the player movement is done. And then they say, Okay, Here's where we project your team is going to finish now. Obviously, injuries trades in season late adjustments and additions can have a factor. First of all, Jonathan Hood baseball survival. In the American League, who is projected to have the best team in terms of winds. I don't know. Yankees Yankees 97 Ad 970.4 and 64.6 97 wins. Tampa finishes second that division 86, Toronto and 80 for the rest of the track. The A L. West Houston. Seven games clear of Joe Maddon. Angels. 93 wins to 86 wins The A L. Central What is the Order of finish for the top three. Well, it should be the White Sox. But something tells me that they have the Twins. First socks second. And a 13 could be the Indians or You know, uh, the Royals Minnesota wins the division with 90.6 wins. Cleveland finishes second with 85.7 and the White Sox limp in 83 wins. There's just no way There's just no way that there's no way that the Sox are third in the American League Central. There's this note. Listen, I could be pie in the sky and tell you that they're going to win the division out, right? I don't know if that's the case, but they're not third. You're not third. I don't know what you do what you're doing there, but they're not good. Not me doing it. All right. Well, I don't know what you're what you're trying to do there, but it's not third. Okay, Let's go to the National League. Don't second, eh? So what? How many wins for the socks? Did you say 83? Well, then I don't understand what they're talking about there with all that talent that the Sox have as a team that was in the playoffs last year. Was it not? Yep. Going or am I having a fever? Dream sock? The Sox were in the stocks in the playoffs against the A's last year. They were so so so now they don't get a bump up to at least the second place again. I could say for sure they could go out, right, But I'm not gonna do that here in February. But at least they'll be in the playoffs in the mix as the number two spot so their chance of winning the ale Central is 13%. Cleveland 25%, Minnesota. 61% of the time wins the division. The Cleveland makes some blockbuster deals that I missed here in the winter. Yeah, they got rid of Francisco Lynn door. And then what? Not a lot than they did They sign Satchel Paige? Yeah, he's back. Okay. Buck O'Neil. Is he over there, too? He was actually meeting with them today. Okay. Deal. Josh Gibson. So I don't know what So what? What did the Indians do to solidify themselves in that spot? I do? I don't know. Okay, so they're doing good pitching, okay? National League. The team with the most wins is obvious. It is the L A Dodgers. They have the best record in baseball, 103 and 50. It's one of 2.9 of 59.1 on your dial. Yes, correct. The San Diego Padres will finish seven games in arrears with all they've spent 95.6 wins and then no one else even close No one even a 500, Activision and L. East. Is a runaway for the Mets. 95.5 wins Washington who spent a ton 85 Philly at 83 Atlanta, who many like Barely over 500 Miami who was a playoff team, 68 wins an awful team. The Braves get pretty tonight got slipped that far back? I don't think so. Okay, I know the Mets of the hot name. You know, it's Steve Cohen, the new owner and all that I I don't see that. So here's Here's what's funny. You're gonna push the Mets all way to the top, just based on their off season, But you don't give the nationals whether you have the nationals was second in that 10 games back. Hey, the Mets will win the division, according to baseball prospectus, who's usually very accurate by the way. 77% of the time..
Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"josh gibson" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI
"18 86. At first, the Southern League of Colored Base ball ist Became the first Negro League Wasn't until 1920 that an organized African American League. The Negro National League, survived the full season. Three years later, the Eastern colored League was formed. And the following year In 1924, the Kansas City Monarchs defeated the Philadelphia Hill Dales in the first colored world. Syriza's Students of baseball will tell you, James Cool. Papa Bell was the smoothest and fastest outfielder ever to play. Josh Gibson, who averaged Batting average of 3 62 over a 16 year career was the best offensive threat of the Times. And, of course, no list would be complete without the legendary pitcher Leroy Satchel Paige, the greatest pitcher of the national of the Negro Leagues, and the elevation of Jackie Robinson to the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1945. Not only opened the doors for other African American players, it also signaled the end of the Negro leagues. And the story goes. Very short story. Okay, that James Cool Papa Bell was so fast, he could turn the light switch off on the wall and be in bed under the covers before the room got dark. That's quick Spurs flashback..
Newsradio 700 WLW
"josh gibson" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"You missed our headlines earlier. I usually try to do this of the top of the eight o'clock hour, But we talked with Jackson Carmen, but The Cliff Notes version of the headlines today, The New York Post says the Reds have been discussed have been in discussions with the Indians about a trade for shortstop Ahmed. We're sorry, Oh Presarios, a 25 year old shortstop that Cleveland acquired from the Mets, and the Francisco will adore deal hit 2 52 this past season and 46 games. He had 17 home runs with 30 doubles and 19 stolen bases the season before that. I'll make 2.4 million this year. He's not a free agent until after 2023. The Big East Conference announced that Xavier's game at Butler tomorrow has been moved to Saturday due to additional code related testing precautions. The game time 5 30 that leads into tomorrow night I have been I don't want to say I've been hosed the last two nights by cancelations. But I've been hosed the last two nights tomorrow we were gonna be on 66 30. Now we're on 69. I side note. I need your help with an off the beaten path topic. I'm a you won't find a shocking I'm very rigid and structured and mapping out my week. And when I want a slot in a topic and not to sound overly obsessed, But Wednesday night we were supposed to be on for about 30 minutes last night we were supposed to be on for 30 minutes. The U. C game was canceled. So we were on for two tomorrow. We're supposed to be on for 30 minutes, and now we're gonna be on for three. So there were things I used earlier in the week that I would have liked to have saved for either last night or tomorrow. So I'm kind of re calculating the one thing I have not worked on this week. Was it off the beaten path topic so part of your assignment if you choose to accept it, and please, please accept it is to think of something fun tomorrow night for the eight o'clock hour related to sports TV movies list. Music and we'll roll that out in the eight o'clock hour tomorrow night. You could always email me Lance at lance McAllister dot com. Those were the headlines of note today, all right. For a segment or two to run at the arena. And I like this, because I like the segments we can kind of shape into maybe a segment or to keep take a couple of calls, then move on to the next thing. Larry King. And I was reading one of the stories online this week about Larry after his passing and the line, paragraph said in an era filled with Star news men. Larry King was a giant among the most prominent questioners on TV and a host to presidents movie stars of world class athletes for that quarter century Larry King live on CNN was highlighted by more than 30,000 interviews, which seems impossible 30,000 interviews. And this jumped out to me. With an affable, easygoing demeanor that distinguished him from or intense TV interviewers. King perfected a casual approach to the question and answer format, always leaning forward and listening intently to his guest, rarely interrupting. Larry King was fond of saying, I've never learned anything while I was talking. And so I want to take a couple of things out of that description of Larry King's career 30,000 interviews. Presidents. Movie stars world class at class athletes. And the the ability that perfection he had in Doing the Q and a probing to find out things about The individual. He was interviewing the story of his the way he approached authors. He did not. Read the book Prior to the interview. He did not like reading. He didn't like reading a whole lot of background on his guest. His answer was always I want. I want to be surprised. I don't wanna know. You know a ton of stuff about I want to be. I want the curiosity be real and my response to be real when I hear something for the first time. And Larry was really good at it. It's something I'm not really good at listening so so intently that he'd have the perfect follow up question. I don't think I'm very good at that. Um, toe. Listen to the answer. I will. I like structuring an interview. I have a general idea of what I'm gonna ask going in. I'm not rigid enough to ask every single question playoff of answers, but He He do interviews without anything written down and just he would wing it, and he was spectacular at that. Here's my question. Saying, Well, what's the topic lands? Tell me. Here's the topic. We'll call this in honor of Larry King will call it sports talk Q and a Give me Give me a sports figure. Pastor present. Living or dead. Give me a sports figure. You'd want to sit down in an interview. And what would you want to ask them? For example. Can you imagine sitting down with Paul Brown? And talking with Paul Brown about the innovations. And he came up with the way the game was his vision for the game. Could you imagine asking Paul Brown about his decision to pass on Bill Walsh. Named Tiger Johnson, the Bengals coach. And then what? He thought of what Walsh went on to become. Can you imagine if you ask Paul Brown what he thinks of the Bengals franchise. Over the last 30 years. What the franchise has tried to do and what the franchise has accomplished. I would love and I'd make it like a round table. If I could. I would love to talk with somebody like Satchel Paige. Or Josh Gibson or cool Papa Bell from the Negro League and ask them about the burn storming days of the Negro League and the talent that we've, we've heard some stories about, but to have them really tell the story of what it was like facing a cool Papa bell or what? It was like for Josh Gibson to face Satchel Paige or Satchel Paige toe pitch to some of the legendary players in the Negro League over the years. I've always.
KGO 810
"josh gibson" Discussed on KGO 810
"Of Hank Aaron, hitting the home run that put him over the record that had previously been held. Bye. Babe Ruth, the legendary Hank Aaron died today. He was 86 years old. John Shea is joining us. John Shea is his national baseball writer for the San Francisco Chronicle. He also is the author of 24 Life stories and Lessons from the Say. Hey, kid, John, Thanks so much for being with us today. I've had my pleasure. So tell us the story first about his tying Babe Ruth's record, not not when he beat it. But when he tied it, because there was controversy at that time I understand between the Braves ownership in the baseball Commissioner Kun tell us what happened and then tap what happened when he hit 7 14. Well, it was at the end of the season and there was some friction anyway. I mean, bully kun, the commissioner at the time was, um You know, maybe distanced from the reality of the record, and he actually wasn't there when it was broken of all things, But but, I mean, it was so hard on Hank Aziz. We know now and maybe didn't know when I was a kid watching all this wonderful history that He was just flooded, You know, by hate mail and death threats and all the Racists wherever he went on African American from the deep South Jim Crow era. Rising to power and Breaking this record set by a white man who played on Lee against whites. You know the great Babe Ruth and looked at as a king a guy then you know who's Hank? Aaron? Well, take care and broke the record fairly and squarely and it not only I mean, obviously, along the way He opened eyes and change minds and made people aware of You know the struggles and the struggles he went through, You know, no man should have to go through mean We know all about Jackie Robinson. But all those years later It was bad for Hank to because you know his his. His teammate and former Giants manager, Dusty Baker was on deck that day, and he tells stories about how How tough it was and how the young players on the team tried to gather around and support him. But it was amazing history and that call you just played of Vin Scully. If you play it up some more. It's an amazing Call, maybe his best, and that's hard to say, because All those decades behind the mike. But when he spoke about a standing So record of an all time baseball idol. I mean, it brought It still does bring chills, Theo listeners. How long does sending ovation lasted for like 11 minutes, didn't it? Yeah, And the beauty of then was that he just You know, just just stop talking. And then when he did, um You know, spoke that he described the moment in real time like nobody could write years later. He was that good, But the beauty of then was always kind of stepping aside and letting the crowds in the moment speak for itself. But his words Were amazing. Um, the racism, the threats. It really hurt him. Um, he told a New York Times Sports Reporter reporter in that April 8th 1974 and in his words, he said, it really led up to turning me off baseball. But he said, it really made me sad for the first time, a clear picture of what this country is all about. My kids had to live like they were in prison because of kidnap threats. And I had to live like a pig in a slaughter camp. I had to duck I had to go out the back door. Ballparks. I had to have a police escort with me all the time. I was getting threatening letters every single day. All of these things have put a bad taste in my mouth and it won't go away. They carved a piece of my heart away. You know, when I read that I thought about the Reverend Martin Luther King and how we have lionized him. How we talk about what a great American hero he Woz. Hank Aaron Muhammed Ali, Willie Mays. That's the way we talk about them today, but back in the day when they were on top. When we should have been lauding them for the achievements that they were making. They were derided they were threatened. They were hated by a large portion of the American population. And it's not that long ago. And the amazing thing isn't that they hit all those home runs. The amazing thing is that they overcame that and Need the biggest and wouldn't let the racist win and changed the course of history. And it's stuff that Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle and Joe the module never had to experience. For all they had to overcome. It didn't it didn't come close to what Jackie and Maize and Aaron and banks and You go down the list of all the people who played And this goes back to the Negro leagues that cool proper bells and Josh Gibson's and folks who never even got a chance to play in the majors. That's how bad it was for them. It was ridiculous by any standards, but The thing has you? You mentioned that Hank Aaron quotas, powerful stuff. But while you recited it, I I remembered this interview I did with Hank. For the sake of the Willie Mays book 24 that came out last spring. And will unite devoted a whole chapter in the book to Hank. And you're right, Hank. That was not. That was not the peak of Hank's career. And I said, What is, he said? Well, the peak is getting to the Hall of Fame. Exhale and to be among the greats and to be rewarded for what I did on. I did a right and obviously all these years later, you know, Barry Bonds broke the record and People look at it as tainted and that the real record well, it is the real record because it says so in the stats book, but But, hey, you know, way we're all told that you know, he did it right. He did it on the up and up and more than that, he did it with dignity and style and grace. Humility and character, and he's one of the all time American heroes in my book. Yeah, on, but he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, He said, Um It was he said, Uh, now I think I'm appreciated. I never wanted them to forget Babe Ruth. I just wanted them to remember Henry Aaron and the Hall of Fame. Did that for him. It finally gave him that. And thank God. Thank God. It did. So, John, What? Woz, Um Henry Aaron Hank Aaron relationship to Willie Mays. That's a good question, because throughout time when I was a kid when I grew up reading about him when I grow up talking with him, all I heard was wasn't a great relationship. So I said, Okay. Of that, Um, let's talk to the people who know him Best, you know. Filipe Alou played six years with Hank. Six years with Willie. Dusty Baker hung out with Willie as he managed the Giants but played with Hank. Joe Torry grew up idolizing the New York Giants and maize and played with With with Hank and, you know, so I talked to the people. You know Joe Morgan, who was a great friend of both, Um Nobody. You know, nobody said anything about a negative relationship, which was portrayed over the years, um by the media or by fans. And there are some cases in the Howard Bryant book. The last hero, which came out a couple of years ago. The definitive take Erin biography and I Love Howard. But I told him I said, Listen, I'm going to bring all this stuff to hang him to bring all this stuff to Willie. Mm hmm..
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"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"You know we idolize Take aaron reanalyze All the great page. I go up as a kid. My dad talked about all these great players that he wished he could have played against as well as you got that opportunity to be a professional baseball player. So you know. I heard a whole lot about him. And i knew a lot about the negro leagues because i look forward to seeing What you know. Somebody was doing in hearing about the old times as well as open times. You know my family's actually originally from south carolina and we would go back every year and they would have a huge Community baseball tournament. And i mean there was teams from all over the place with coming out with a little kid. I remember being my dad's uniform and getting out there and handed you know all the stories about josh gibson and the great you know players that played back in the negro league and as well as some of the guys in the stores that they had around town so it was always wonderful feet and great that we got a chance to get out of church and once we got out of church with the family. Here we go straight to the ball field. Either we were in. You know nice dressed or we got a chance to go back home and put on our own baseball pants and we made a game out even as kids. Our has a large collection. Maybe even the largest of negro league baseball players. I've done those interviews. And i feel it's important to remember and capture the history of the game particularly for african americans and i'll never forget one interview i had and you may know of her peanut johnson. She was the only woman in the negro leagues. And i mean she was a good one. She won more than twenty games over four seasons Collectively each season. And i'm just blown away about you know the history of the game And what it meant Aside from what we just talked about what is the one thing about the negro leagues that people should remember about it. You know the most important thing. Is that the game was loved by so many and it's been by everybody The negro leagues represented character. They representing grace. They represented love and compassion for our community but also throughout america. And it gave you know our kids. African african american kids the opposite. Have hope that someday they could be the next federal page and they could be the next Josh gibson and they could be the next great can come through our communities and give us hope to play as well as be able to say that. Hey we came through a rough time. And i live but we also now have hoped that good will happen with. Staying athletes. Outdoor feel and competing. You know to have Jackie robinson go through everything that he did to transcend baseball into something so great to where everybody can. Actually you know live it. Love it as well as partake into it was was something that we can never ever forget and with what he was able to do. It gave all of us a chance to see how the negro leagues played a major part and baseball throughout in the history of the game and the life that those guys were able to go through times that they had to go through to make things better for all of a players down to live. You know i'll never ever forget what curt flood was able to do with major league baseball know becoming a free agent as well as not just signing because he wanted the best for the game later on was instrumental to baseball so there's so many opportunities that has happened From african americans making you're thing such a wonderful You know opening opportunities that such wonderful time for kids nowadays to have that opportunity to play worldwide is is amazing. One of my favorite conversations is with the late. Buck o neil. We had many many a conversation and he was always so positive. Hold on just a second time. We're talking baseball with former right handed. Pitcher for twenty one seasons in the majors. Tom gordon when we come back. We'll talk a little bit more about his career. how he went from starter to being a reliever. We do that as we continue across the country and around the world. We've got you on america's sports talk show. Hello and welcome back to the ron. 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This is america's sports talk show sports byline usa. Here's ron bar. Gordon has joined us here on sports. Byline again pitcher. Both starter and relief pitcher for twenty one seasons and he also won a world series championship. Which will talk about in just a second. You began your career as a starting pitcher with kansas city. You appeared in five games at the age of twenty. That was Late in nineteen eighty eight. Were you prepared for major league baseball at that time. What about the maturation process. You have to have the play at that level. Then i i tell you i was more excited i would say i wouldn't say that i was totally radio prepared. I think in a lot of ways. I had pissed so well In of course i was understanding my abilities to pitch to where he gave me that opportunity to get in there and and and and and and get some starts but i think what really mostly happened. This bret saberhagen margoob. Charlie ran those guys with such great pictures and starts to wear. The royals knew that if those guys is pitch as well as they could pitch and everything was going and everyone was healthy seasons going will we can take more chances with younger players and give them opportunity to be around so that's great superstars and for the most part helped me down the line more than anything else because i think.
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"josh gibson" Discussed on Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network
"Always nice to catch up with bob kendrick because he is the president of the negro leagues museum is the head. Negro leagues historian. And that museum. If you're ever in kansas city i urge you to stop by and take it in and of course i wanted to have bob on because the announcement was made by major league baseball that they finally decided to include the statistics from negro league baseball along with the major league baseball statistics. And i saw a quote. Bob that said by the time this stuff gets implemented and integrated with the regular major league data. The numbers will be a little bit different more complete. And i think that's what we needed to have in baseball as well. What was your reaction to the announcement by major league baseball. It was exciting. It really rise. And although i'll be honest rodney. It wasn't my initial excitement. When i first when i first caught wind of this because i was like a lotta people. I didn't even know about this. Nineteen sixty nine commission. That had blatantly disregarded the negro leagues as exactly what it is a major league and so someone wrote about it and then it started to kind of pick up some traction and there was these questions swirling around about it and with it reached me and the thought that major league baseball in some way shape form the validating the players from the negro leagues and i took a little offensive that initially because i knew so many of these players. S you did you. You know how proud they were. They knew how good they were. And they know how good their legalize and so they never thought validation from anyone and that was kinda my position. But then i had to be really look outside of myself and start to think about what this man from a historical perspective even beyond the numbers and i know people will be enamored with staff. Because that's baseball but for me the stats are only contextual. You never be able to reduce the negro league suggested pistol data and so when i started to look at it for its historical marriage is historical significance. It really dawned on me. Just how big this could be. And then as major league baseball was going through the process of making this decision. They clue me in on what was going on. And so i had to prepare. You know knowing that this was going to happen and so but it was still mad. If it's such a tremendously proud for me. All of the negro leagues baseball museum. And honestly i think all of us who called the negro leagues home in some way shape form of fashion. What does this do as far as telling the story of baseball overall in your mind bob. Well it helps remind people of just how great these leagues were the negro leagues and how courageous these athletes who as i like to say forced a glorious history in the midst of an inglorious time in american history and i do think ron that it makes the work that we do here in kansas city at the negro leagues baseball museum. That much more meaningful. Because i don't want. I don't want to see happen. Is that twenty thirty years from now. A new baseball fan will look at these statistics and see this integration of all these players there and think that it was that way all the time. It is important that they understand that. These leagues were segregated. At one point in time it was bad. No necessarily desire of those black players that they weren't included in the major leagues and so they did do create their league and this league became a great league. And i don't want that to be lost but added helps paint a greater picture a higher profile for what the negro leagues represented the courageous owners. Who financed these teams and the players. Who played against the backdrop of american segregation. This is quite significant. I've been asked by a number of people with these numbers when they're added to the major league baseball numbers. Will they change any of the records. Can you clarify that a little bit. I don't know how they're going to be integrated. We're speculating like everybody else. Along these lines but you would think that that would be some impact. I don't know if it'll be A tremendous they all tremendously but we can kind of played at what if gag. You know because now. Josh gibson's epic nineteen forty-three season rod when he hit and astounding four forty. One that's likely now. The greatest single season batting average in baseball history. If they are incorporated in that manner now his home run totals. Maybe diminish som- because now you're only looking at league games and legal paid much shorter season then the major leagues. But you know you gotta hold out of smart people who can likely take all the at bats and figure out okay. Well if he places the mini games over x. men a game he would hit these many home runs. But that's what. I was really smart. People was not very good in probability. Statistics some on the net after them. So you'll see a little bit of a teeter totter on what these records might mean. So now it's already wilson. The last guy hit four hundred. He hit four hundred. Nineteen forty eight it will. It may no longer be ted. Williams and with the monarchs now get credit for starting night baseball in nineteen thirty as opposed to the cincinnati reds and nineteen thirty five. So it's a lot of what if as we look at what might happen with the integration of these statistics and facts that stem from the negar leagues as well. Yeah my point out. Only the statistics from official negro league games will be counted by. Mlb not any ex- exhibitions. You know. I've had the honor of interviewing many of the negro league players. The that are still living and the one thing i have come away with when i reflect back on my collection of interviews with them is one the pride that they took and playing baseball the way they played and also the fact that they're i'm sure happy whether they're living or not that finally this was done. It validates their lives and their careers. Do what it does is like. I say it validates their accomplishments right and historical context and those families. Who many of them i communicated with last week when this announcement was made you're right they are bristling with pride. They are so elated that their loved ones. Many of them who have long been come are being remembered and that also resonated with me as well and so. yeah. I tip my cap to commission commissioner. Manfred for making this move. 'cause they didn't have to do anything you know this little footnote in baseball history kind of embedded and they're folk knew about this. You know unless you were a major historian of major league. Baseball probably didn't even know that commission ever existed And that is rule had been kind of implementing or this blatant mission of the negro leagues had occurred and major league baseball particularly in this year the hundredth anniversary of the birth of the negro leagues. Which we've been celebrating year long. You know in spite of corona virus. is significant and it was the perfect way to tap off. What has been an amazing centennial. Celebration of the negro leagues. We have two and a half minutes. Left you know the statistics better than anybody else when it comes to the negro leagues. What are some of the other statistics. People may not know about that..
ESPN Daily
Families of Negro Leaguers rejoice in MLB's decision to recognize league
"On wednesday. Mlb announced that it was quote unquote elevating negro leaguers. Two major league status within its official historical record which helps explain why google searches for the name. Josh gibson suddenly started spiking. Baseball says it's figuring out how to include negro leagues statistics into its canon of sacred numbers. And there is no resume quite as legendary or as mythical as that of the late josh gibson. The catcher that satchel page once unambiguously deemed the greatest hitter. Who ever lived. So i called up shawn gibson. Josh's great grandson and the executive director of the josh gibson foundation to understand what mlb's decision to elevate his great grandfather means to him. Well first of all. I don't like the word elevating. I think it should be more of a merger because niggly baseball player or major league players as well. So that's first and foremost this. And i want to bid tuesday night as josh gibson's greg grants and i woke up as josh jacobs. His grandson asher to cerebral calls questions about this happened. Literally when people say happen literally overnight it literally happened overnight and to wake up and see that in lobby made the announcement and josh gibson. Now what we consider not just one greatest league baseball players he. He'll be considered one of the greatest baseball players of all time and so for us in our family. It's a great honor. Ona understand josh. What you heard growing up from family from friends about how your great grandfather considered his own career compared to those who had the opportunity who were afforded that opportunity to play in the majors for jars. You know and the other great negro baseball players you know. They knew they were great players. They didn't even know by to tell him that it was just a decision At that time it was in that era. that kennesaw mountain land is denied the opportunity to play in the majors but did not stop him. They barnstorm against a lot of white baseball players. And you know as well as we know. I know is that a lotta times. They beat the white ball players in. So that's something right there. And so when i totally stories just in our family. There's we call josh gibson big josh. 'cause josh gibson junior of course is the sense that you can't say jockey get confused. I wanted to ask you about one of big joshes more famous nicknames. He was called very famously. The black babe. When you hear that sean about your great grandfather how does that make you feel you know. Let's say this bridge. Stevens bakers great grandson. He's one of my good friends. We go back and forth back and forth on this all the time. I didn't know that okay. Tell me about your relationship with him. And what you guys talk about on this regard. That's great so burn. Stevens is bait roof. Great grandson and so we always talked about. You know josh gibson's compared to my grandfather. And i'm like well that's what you but if you ask me about. Bay roof is a white josh gibson. So we go back and forth. Is we always say our people always say Yankee stadium was called the house. Ruth bill in ice t's brent are okay but who hit the furthest home running stadio i give them on that one. Well i mean. I want to even push that. Story further sean. Because i grew up going yankee stadium. He's the only human being to ever hit a fair ball out of the park out of the house. That babe ruth ledley built. I don't want to rub it in his face to. I don't go that far. I just say the furthest rebel. We all know he headed out. The ballpark. we know is over near babe. Ruth kane close no all seriously. I've heard several stories two different stories. I heard it. It's out of the ballpark. Been a heard from some players that hit like the top tier of moammar. So you wrote a piece of the undefeated in august about your grandfather's name being on the mvp trophy. And that may have been unthinkable at one point but now it does feel like there could be momentum towards that. Why is this important to you and your family. Then the peak kinda fell on our lap on. This happened to read an article about terry pendleton barry. Larkin and mike schmidt. Making a case to remove kennesaw Mountains landers name off the mvp award and it gets to okay. Well here at a names that they're considering replacing the name with in his frank robinson branch rickey and go shoot josh gifts literally again on the phone with my board directors. I said listen. We just found herself in a race. Let's see how we can win it so for us. I'm hoping that the vwa taking consideration of this and really think twice when they make a decision to rename this after josh gibson but this mvp war if this may not. The jaw is just about josh gibson. This will carry on the legacy of all the other great players as well. Who were denied the opportunity. So josh gibson is carrying several thousand players on his shoulders but his vp award the page. Family the buck leonard. Cool up a bail family. Turkey stars fan oscar charleston. Family all great players will all celebrate. It'll be named after josh. But every time i speak about this i'll make sure represent all the family members who were denied the opportunity
Chicago Tonight
Baseball Rights a Wrong by Adding Negro Leagues to Official Records
"And on the year of its hundredth anniversary. Negro league baseball is being reclassified as a major league that means the stats of baseball greats. Like willie mays satchel page josh gibson and thirty four hundred. Other players will be incorporated into the official records of major league. Baseball in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine special commission added the records of six early leagues to the mlb books. Dating back to eighteen seventy six but it left out the negro leagues now with the help of the elias sports bureau. It's updating the books to include the negro leagues. mlb says it's correcting a longtime oversight in the game's history
All Things Considered
MLB Marks The 100th Anniversary Of The Negro Leagues
"Baseball is marking the anniversary of the Negro leagues created 100 years ago. The league's showcased black baseball players players who couldn't play on the major teams because of the color of their skin. Only a few members of the leagues are alive to celebrate the centennial Michigan radios, Doug Tribute spoke to the only surviving team owner and others about the legacy of the legendary leagues. In 1920 owners of independent black baseball teams from the Midwest gathered in Kansas City, Missouri. At that meeting they created the Negro National Leagues had no idea they were making history. They didn't care about making history. Bob Kendrick heads the Negro Leagues Baseball museum there, he says. Faced with segregation, black owners and players kept pushing for organized baseball. These athletes never cried about the social injustice. They went out and did something about so you won't let me play with you and I create my own And they did today. Stars like Josh Gibson, Buck Leonard and Satchel Paige are enshrined in the Baseball Hall of Fame, but thousands of black and Latino players endured bigotry and racist taunts. It was Tear before the players at that time. Many Forbes owned the Detroit Stars from 1956 to 1958. She lives in Grand Rapids, Michigan, that players try of them. They had nowhere to stay because of the discrimination, so they slept in the buses. And they couldn't go in places to eat so one person would go to the back door. When get food for all the players. Pedro Sierra pitched in the Negro leagues for several seasons in the 19 fifties. He grew up in Cuba and says it was tough to adjust to segregation and racism he saw in the US It wasn't easy to see all the problem with the raise. I know all about it, herb artist. But I hadn't experienced today. Sierra lives in New Jersey In 1954 he signed with the Indianapolis clowns at the age of 16. His salary was less than 5% of what white players were earning dollars a month a month, $100 a month. And I look back and say, Oh my God. Jackie Robinson played briefly in the Negro leagues. Then, in 1947 he broke baseball's color barrier with the Brooklyn Dodgers in Cleveland, Larry Doby became the first black player in the American League. Coming seasons brought many more signings. But many Forbes sympathizes with the many athletes who were good enough to play in the major leagues, but never got a shot. Unfortunately, some of the good players by the time the time Came. They were too old to play. The last league folded in the early 19 sixties, the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum estimates there are about 100 former players still alive. Forbes is 88 worries about being one of the last left to tell the story. And I just want a if I'm worthy of represent and speaking about the Negro League because When I got involved, things was easier for me. Then it wass father one before me. Many Forbes will keep sharing her stories with younger generations and others will to Major League Baseball has a day to honor the league's set for next month. The museum has pushed back its year long celebration of the centennial to next year and renamed it Negro Leagues. 101
The Paul W. Smith Show
Peter King on decision to leave MMQB; NFL draft fallout
"Working on scattered outages as well from last week's windstorm news time seven thirty three here's steve courtney sports all rich and not a very good performance by the tigers in kansas city yesterday they wrap up the fourgame series as a matter of fact that skipper ron gardenhire referred to it as ridiculous anyway the royals get a four two win kansas city wins a series for the first time in eleven tries this season matthew boyd fourrun six hits in seven innings of work tigers in texas to kick off the first of three eight oh five tonight michael fulmer on the hill for the tigers he's wanting to two point eight zero the era nba postseason the warriors now with a stranglehold on their series with the pelicans golden state gets a one eighteen ninety two win yesterday golden state up three one there the rockets ditto they beat the utah jazz one hundred eighty seven in utah houston up there now three games to one chris paul by the way twenty seven points sanli cup playoffs the lightning advance again they beat the bruins three one they will face the capitals or penguins caps up in that series three to western conference had the golden knights of vegas shutting out the sharks three nothing marc andre fleury twenty eight saves four shutout of the postseason vegas advances at a conference final as an expansion team no less face either winnipeg or nashville the jets lead that series three games to two and justifies victory in saturday's kentucky derby was worth one point four three two million to the horse's owners and nearly as much to one texas woman who picked five straight winners in races eight through twelve at churchill downs the woman from austin texas one one point two million dollars whether eighteen dollar pick five bet steve courtney wjr sports traffic and weather first on the fives with dc straight ahead this michigan opera theatre presents the the summer came this story of negro leagues baseball legend josh gibson considered one of the greatest baseball players of all time his historic journey is told of talent heartbreak and overcoming prejudice and discrimination featuring the michigan opera theatre orchestra and chorus may twelfth through the twentieth at the detroit opera house tickets and information at michigan opera dot org a possible by general motors.