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Emergency Pod: It's Happening! Tom Brady is a Buccaneer!!!

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Emergency Pod: It's Happening! Tom Brady is a Buccaneer!!!

"Alright it is a very happy day in the Household Tom. Brady signing with the bucks. The chargers are out of the running of if official announcement just came out. Willie however we feel it I hate it I hate hate it I hate it I mean I never thought this day would happen. I never expected. I don't think anybody expected Brady to the bucks if you will the question. I've been saying it. Yeah but I think he would just shoot from half court you just the guide I got picked out of the crowd actually hit it for ten thousand dollars. I don't think anybody believes that Brady just didn't line up. It is. Does it line up like when Lebron made the leap he was moving? His kids moved out. His house brought a house in. La Boom. He's everybody's like Oh okay. We see radio production company. He lands untempered Tampa Bay. Now more in me. That's what makes me nervous now. There is it a fisher. The raiders are out of because I know they signed Mariota Derek Carr. Yeah the raiders have done. It's it's the box so yeah other bear still very out of it. Bears signed Robert. Quinn today have no absolutely no Cap Room That was the thing that we're GONNA most. We talked about last week's pod. The one hundred ninety nine productions That kind of leads you to believe he's going to L. A. But Jeff Darlington. Who is a brilliant? He's in his inner CERTA circle. They are friends. They hang out He he tweeted four factors to consider when thinking about Brady's next bought a collaborative coach. Anthony Lynn. You could think is that you know work with Philip Rivers. Not Aaron. Certainly A two-time coast the air more decorated coach for sure The A well-built roster even if not perceived as clear super bowl favorite good weather and then the kicker favorable proximity to NYC for personal reasons. But don't use any of those to cross teams off the list. So that was tweeted Tuesday afternoon by Jeff Darlington. So we're not crossing any teams off the list but Tampa is a hell of a lot closer to New York City where his kids are in school enrolled in New York City private schools than Los Angeles. So that would appear to be the trump card in this whole situation as far as that tweet For the jets are unsympathetic. Put up so I mean I couldn't be more excited. You know aside from the monetary value you offering this gift of Two thousand dollars drunk. I shouldn't be allowed. I love how you double down on it after you just thought it was so trump. I mean it was so to me it was it was so out of this and you know what? I should have tapped into my inner football. Because you're right this time of three agency. One thing that keeps players either on the move at home is the family right away and I should've I it but it just wasn't listen. I Love Bruce Errands you know. He's he's family. Larry Foot by Westwood's Randall L on on the steelers connection is down there so that's the one side. I'm really happy I'm happy to see. Ba finally get a quarterback that he really can just put an autopilot but he can be a be the mastermind. We know him to be you understand. He was handcuffed last year with James. Wants to write and now. Ba doesn't have to do that. Not Be all right. I you know everybody. Will you put the team together? You look for the hall. One night. He has In Tom Brady. So I'm I'm happy. In that regard. My only worry about Brady go into the buffs is sometimes when you go to new organization in particular organization like that does it trump from a big win and culture. The standard is different. He's going to have to go into this locker whether he wants to. Or not and really get after these guys from a disciplined standpoint and also from the standpoint of just experts and what that means those guys and I know you're you're you're tied personally student To the Front Office Organization. Yep It's easy to it's easy to guys to be their best and do their best. But there's a sense of confidence that you have to earn earn that through winning. They have won a lot if anything they've been holding they've been holding holding ship down but they now have to understand what winning means and you can go on a four game winning streak and still not know what winning mates so what that said. I'm happy I'm happy for you. Stephen Shade Kinda thing I know I gotta Pay Your Dumb Ass annoying me sit here like I didn't even want even want to do the podcast us into couch trying to get relaxed my mind. I was in the process of grinding some marijuana so can you sleep and I on twitter and it's just blowing up that all these people get limited. It looks like a Brady. Maybe a buck is It's it's a hell of a time to be alive. This is this is this. Is Dan age where you can say. Honestly on St Patty's dead. Tom Brady became a buck. New York City was officially. Shut down. They should they shut down. France Corona virus is spreading crazy. Yup free agencies been nuts so far nuts the trades were saying you can attack last. Campbell would have been never saw that coming area. I mean you know I. I was listening to convert a big fan of You know he he threw it out there that Brady would have ended up signing with the PATS who everybody even. If you weren't a pastor and by no means it was hard for me to see him where another. But it obviously looks like he's going to happen dude. I told Ya. Photoshop Boat Ramp. The Rumblings from Colin hurt is that once they didn't sign stuff on digs and once they're inside the Diop Brady was like I can't do it again I can't have another year a subpar year. I WANNA go out on top. I've started this thing being a word. I WANNA leave winner. He he walked out the door. I wish I could have been a flower in that room in that room when Brady Bella check in crafts sit down at Brady said you know what farewell address would've loved to see the emotions. I would've loved to see it all. Yeah so am not positive bill. Check with at the sit down. I know what the crafts for sure happened last night. You told them but let's go into the Into the like how this actually happened so we talked about it in mobile so when we sat down with John Spy Tech John spy tack. Who is the director flare personnel for the bucks went to college with Now is a bit younger than Brady. But we've mentioned at I mentioned doing mobile is like hey maybe it's happens those college connections. He said he hadn't talked for years. Which I do believe something. No one is talking about are outside linebackers coach in your friend. Larry Foot Foot Lia a buddy of Tom Brady yes I'm sure that you know that connection. John Spider In the interview I'm sure that connection certainly helped. Now Bruce Arians absolutely players coach two-time coach the ear with different teams. You know a lot of rumors have been out there about how long. He's actually going to coach Woohoo. Tom Brady that actually ties in perfectly. Because you know if he's only going to play another to coach either two three years one to three years ago that lines up with Brady's time line the bucks are now you know. I'm not trying to put these expectations in but they are all in for the next two years on this experiment and I am confident it'll work. Does that mean we'll win super bowl fifty five fifty six? I don't know that there was way too early. Heap HEAP those Expectations on The draft still hasn't happened. We still got another wave of free agency. He's really the big domino to fall. You know we got Philip rivers in India we got Teddy Bridgewater in Carolina You know a lot of things are set to happen but just an unbelievable unbelievable day. What an announcement so excited for the future you know. I'm happy for for the The money that I'm going to inherit from you from this but yeah that aside it's all about the on the field product. I'm actually going to get a winner. I just tapes of video inviting all of Patriots Nation Humbly and genuinely hop on unless they the Bucks Bandwagon. But just root for the bucks still refer your team but we also got your Guy Tom Bridge over here. All we want is your support. I don't think it works like that. I think I don't think I think it's different when it comes to football. I'm asking PATS FANS TO CHANGE THEIR ALLEGIANCES. Sanyo Different Conference. You got another team in the rear view mirror. You know we're not. We're not playing show this year some some support our right our way root for TB twelve. Who doesn't want to see him do good. I don't I mean you weren't up at your pats hater before I mean that is true now. I don't hate Tom Brady I just. He's beat me a lot. I like everybody else. It's everyone allowed us to a while. This is the thing that we also got to recognize. That he's GonNa be is GonNa be must see TV when his Hammond drew brees job right. Jerusalem got paid a million dollars for two years until my Matt Ryan. He talked about now. Teddy that division. Nfc South is when we rock. And I think one thing that Brady does the good side if you're a buccaneers surround yourself. Brady is looking at a big target like Mike Evans who he hasn't had in a long time since Randy Mars. Yup that's going to be huge. You're talking about Goodwin Godwin's That's going to be huge and you know I I'm happy for Brady Man. My biggest fear is I don't want him about less than a goat discipline competitor as you want to see him. Go out slinging on top being being assassinate. He known to be being big. Tom Terrific if we do not see that this year this probably the ultimate tragedy ultimate sports tragedy. We've ever seen well. I'll I'll tell you about what that can actually look like in a moment this. Tom Brady. Tampa. I'M NOT GONNA say is brought to you by carshield because definitely helped cars. Today are like computer. 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Now I'll give him some credit Colin cowherd who was on this a little bit earlier that Brady had made his decision. He always has the phrase. If you're not going to be good at least be interesting now. I'm hoping that the bucks are going to be very good. But if they're not going to be very good at the very least they're going to be interesting. The bucks are going to be national national. Tv players they're going to have a bunch of prime time games. They have some big matchups between the chiefs. This year. there are the saints. You mentioned twice in the division so definitely a lot of fun football I mean for me. This is a dream come. True just doesn't mean I'm working at parcel. Spores were Boston based company at least that's originated. They've founder you know went to jail for Tom. Brady is the absolute perfect spot for me to be in especially with the coming of Tampa hurts case. It's going to be an interesting story but hopefully it has a happy ending and I'm sitting here reading first of all the join in comparison makes me nauseous. Georgia fair but I try to erase it a race away in my head that he was a wizard at one point. I I try to door. That actually was a thing because every time I see a clip of him a Wizard Jersey or Patrick. Union Sonics in Orlando Jersey or Charles Oakley and a Toronto Raptors earthy or even came Elisa won't interact It makes me nauseous. It just it just it just bothers me. Some are move faster but I'm sitting here reading I guess it's fair weather note. If that's what you WANNA call it. Sounds like a guy who already kind of knew who who really didn't want to leave it. Sounds like a guy. Like for instance. I'm reading says I wanted to say thank you to all of them credible fans in Patriot. Supporters Mutt. Ma Massachusetts has been my home for twenty years is truly been the happiest two decades. I could have ever visited my life. Have nothing but love and gratitude for time in New England? Sport has been overwhelming. I wish every player could experience it. My children were born here. Raised here and you always embraced his California As zero one thing we know about Tom Brady is that he does have a heart. He sensitive he has a huge chip on his shoulder. He's quiet he's always tried to be the statesman and a teammate. I really believe he didn't WanNA leave. I'm waiting to hear once the smoke clears wants to official announcement and we roll into July and we are all away from corn. Being quarantined on the Beach. In everybody's getting ready for training camp are waiting to hear what was the relationship or what was said between him in. Belgium. Because it's Tom is loyal. He's always been well he will. He's always across La talking about guy who's taking a pay cut after winning super bowls back to back who's never been on the table and say give me my money. I'm holding out. He's a he's always there. I know he's always been no amount of work. I'm a patriot. We're GONNA win win win again. And they're gonNA and the reason why you know people say hey is. The ultimate compliment saw the ultimate form of gratitude. I really want to know what was said between him above. Because we all know how Robert Kraft is about But what will be said between Belgium because part the Mystique of Tom Brady is? Did Bella check in Tom? Ever really get along you know was. Was this really a relationship that was healthy or was this strictly because we know Bella chapters of stonewall but you hear from links old did this get soured towards the end where Belgium by time's up ready. How much did the garage? The Jimmy G. thing happened. I think for sure because it looked like that bill. Belichick wanted to keep Jimmy G. overtime so I'm certain that that had some doing. I think it was interesting because reports were that the niners were. Brady's first choice. I mean he's from that area. Have a ready made roster. I mean Jimmy. Garoppolo makes a couple of throws the end of that superbowl they are super bowl champions. Fca played by the second half So I think also what's involved in that is potentially Sticking it to Jimmy G. Again not necessarily hates Jimmy G. But The fact that he could maybe take damages job just to show we'll check. Hey like you know. Someone thinks that I'm better than Jimmy. Gm you know potentially maybe take them to the Super Bowl. A little bit of a reach. I could see that as potential motivation for him to San Francisco. In addition to you know obviously being the Katina rooted for growing up and kind of going back home so to speak of the matter. Is He's chosen the box. Unbelievable News for me. I mean this completely changes the NFL landscape We'll see have what I'm saying. One hundred percent. I mean I grew up being a kid who watched the bucks on Monday night. The Dave Sapping John Lynch In how good how? Football felt alive because the niners were building the giant giant fan and the giants will get it How the steelers were okay. But they were still like a jug. You know kind of a middle of the road team but the JUGGERNAUT. So that years with the raiders The the Broncos or how when you go back in time watching the bucks or Monday night felt different. You know you know steelers during that time. That was those. Were the days of Jerome Bettis Joey Porter and all that and those tools to defenses locking horns on paper champions right I mean I mean those are those days where madden was still. Given during the telecast so as thousand To see the box possibly on prime time all it is. I'm not going to be honest. It doesn't I don't hate it. Yeah and I mean we got new uniforms coming out with should certainly helped because the the current uniforms are pretty disgusting from being honest But you know we'll see we're going to air interview with Mark Dominik this episode. We'll get to that Momentarily let's just talk about some other. Nfl News a lot of stuff has come down in the past is the the two very big trades defined digs going for a first rounder And some like mid level picks to the buffalo bills from Minnesota and then De'andre Hopkins. That trade was puzzling deandre Hopkins in a fourth round. Pick offer David Johnson whose contract has been viewed as an albatross a fourth round pick and a second round pick basically a second round pick and David Johnson for Deandra Hopkins. What are your thoughts on these deals? I'm surprised by D. hot but I get it There's no way to Arizona cardinals. You have a young column or who shocked a lot of people last year and I actually saw him play live New Orleans when Arizona played the saints and I got to see him and I've actually met him guys. Not a big fellow walked sort of feel he when he walks on the field. He plays like he's six six four quarterback with a huge army and it's quite baffling to see but you you find yourself kind of rooting for the guy. Because he'll he'll he'll shake and throw a forty or a ball on a rope you so how did I come out of that? Little Body got played football. But you also know with Larry Fitzgerald coming on the sixteenth year that there's no way do you see Larry Plan for another year positive another year? That day was going to have to give bring on a weapon like diop to Kinda bring stability to that team Organization still trying to build up. So I'm happy for that in that regard because I have ties there Sean Office along coastal cardinals. Who's my coach for the Pittsburgh steelers? I'll I want my office coach. Because he was a big part of the reason why I stayed. There was as long as I did. He always forms. I have personal ties. It pushing past that I mentioned Kelly. Campbell shocked me. I'm looking I read Jones very shocking. Yeah Byron Jones got paid. Oh Yeah from the Miami Dolphins. They have money to spend. I mean he's a player. The cowboys just couldn't retain them. And they signed Amari Cooper five years. One hundred million dollars a franchise. Doctors didn't that money as he seeks getting fifteen million dollars a year. Yeah and so this thing is continuing to unfold. You mentioned David. Johnson not shocked by that drew brees. I didn't think he would come back another year. He signed for another two years for the million. Who that has you know has guy talk about Teddy Bridgewater going to Carolina not shot. I'm happy for Teddy but the one thing I'm excited to see is what happens with Cam. Newton though I thought that was actually a really Dick move by the panthers because they did this on the second day of Free Agency. They could have done it on the first before them. We give you permission to seek a trade so I think that actually a lot of domino's started to fall and this and I'll give you a little bit of Tell them what I know. Is that Teddy Bridgewater. It was rumored that he was actually on the bears on Monday but he was waiting on the bucks the bucks for his first choice. I believe that either Florida. Getting Yup. Yup and you know you. He would be a fit with this offense. I just did a film breakdown. People were questioned his arm strength and mobility. He's got enough of both. He's just so accurate and he's a great leader obviously with New Orleans caps situation. They can't bring him back But with TEDDY BRIDGEWATER GOING TO CAROLINA. That happened was on the act today from twelve around. One o'clock I was confused because I was like well. He was supposed to be waiting on the bucks. Then I like minutes. Later cowherd broke. That Brady had a decision so I think this decision actually was made around one o'clock on Tuesday and then the bucks no and we're keeping it tight. Lips basically told Teddy Bridgewater. All right you know. Our position has been filled out. And do your thing. That's when he goes to Carolina and Cam Newton obviously a them telling cam unique trade. Because they're about the scientific bridgewater so I think that's how the dominoes fell behind the scenes. But yeah I mean I think it's a Dick move by the panthers because it's tough because they are waiting for dominance of all but they're letting Cam Newton look for trade now after almost all the quarterback. Yeah we'RE GONNA go chargers bears. Maybe like I mean there's not a lot of jobs out there. Yeah I thought it was weird as your appointment. The timing of it but then you also you know if you watch Cam Newton because I follow on twitter. Instagram impulsive working out him kind of throwing darts at the Organization. Even the last one. He threw out Actually threw it at the the the web page or Instagram page of the Carolina Panthers when the panthers without said Hey for a well you know you've been great you push me how I didn't WanNA leave. Let's let's get. Let's make sure the narrative is I is right. So which is weird. I'm surprised Ron Rivera. Hasn't picked them up. Now we want to say Ron Rivera is not the case keenum. But if I'm Ron Rivera having cam as possibly a the number two possibly number one doesn't hurt you and actually brings you a little bit of a British Foundation. Where keys keenum is not the guy. For whatever reason he's robbing a locker room the wrong way case. Keenum just sign with with Cleveland. So it's twain housed. Yes so excuse me with that but if you have a chance to get Cam Newton that star power is going to bring. That's GonNa lift that locker because they also brought in a veteran. Thomas Davis was like maybe joining themselves. Yup Yup I'm I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here opposite here. Baffled AS TO WHY. Tha cameras kind of lingering out there. I understand the shell dishes. But he's one of those guys that he's GonNa he's GonNa give any locker when he walks to a boost especially a sense of swagger. I'm to fuse to fuse. But rather dumbfounded what the hell doing as a writer. He's the raiders. Solid the raiders. Thirty seven years old on the radio took them on you. Know gruden loves those old rusty old vets but this is like come on Jason. What are we doing here? What are we doing? Ogle like do you. You hate them that much broadcasting workout for you but do you hate home that much that you want to be a writer. It's out so Full transparency we were texting. We set this up to go at six o'clock. Adam Schefter tweet. Tampa the expected landing spot for Tom. Brady barring anything unforeseen sources tell me and Jeff Darlington. Who is the guy that's GonNa break? This Jeff Darlington Schefters Buckeye. Jeff Darlington is the Brady Guy. There's no signing date or announcement. Officially set up a brady is expected to be a buccaneer. Let's go I mean we didn't know but that's that's you haven't changed the fucking end of the world end of the world. Why not right? Why fucking up? Why why why are we did? I did not want this to happen. Yes only because I didn't WANNA patriotism up but it's the end of the world so why not let Brady be? A book is Weird Awkward. But he's had it's completely surreal completely. Surreal let's get get into our interview entirely so the interview with Mark. Dominik really good so actually in this interview we're going to theorize wear Jameis Winston has gone where he could potentially land. Because you know as we're talking about quarterback dance partners email not have one or you know. Where is he going to go now? That that job has been filled in Tampa is interviews brought to you by upstart. 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Let's see the Super Bowl win nine months from now. I mean we're GONNA we're conflicting with the postseason so we might have to wait a little bit counter too quick off and well good for you man. I never thought this day would happen on the anybody so this day happening. What a sad day to be Patriot. I mean also I mean a lot of Nonbelievers you dave and you know everybody just you know. They don't put unplugged in plugged in cell phone numbers. We Talk I unplugged Jeff Burlington. Tom Brady but I am logged in. I mean I'm not surprised tonight. Dan Pandemic the world shutdown. Why NOT All right we're GONNA leave you guys with our interview with Mark Dominik Really Fun Interview. Got Bucks. Gm Mark Dominik. A man whose work I've admired from afar for a very long time Mark thanks for being on the show today today. I'm good. I'm happy to be here. You know obviously fun to talk. A Little Ball reminisce about stories that maybe the people haven't heard but also just I'm just thankful to still be involved in football. What is it to like twenty six twenty six twenty seven senior bowl? Wow I've been coming here to mobile. I remember my first time. It came to mobile. I was twenty two years old working for the Kansas City chiefs and my first job was to pick up the rental car and take Carl Peterson. Driving here to the Senior Bowl Guy Lynn Styles. Who was an executive for the chiefs? Also this back Markus Allen Until Hanan Derrick Thomas Dale Carter Neil Smith. It was the crew. They were great and I can remember like literally. I'm working for the cheese for like two months and I can remember Carl Peterson going. You better marry the right girl. You better figure out if you really like it because this is going to grind the heck out of you and now I'm still here and I'm just saying Russ Ball who works for the Packers Russ was strength coach then and we were. I was just telling that story today when I ran into him at practice so he was laughing because he's like we got some old stories because we slather getting old. You said you've been here for a long time this shit. That's a long time and get twenty. Six years long long time I looked good. Don't you look damn fine? Don't watch the games watching the talent but has come through Especially the senior bowl. Is there any moment during this process? You like man. This guy is going to be ballplayer. Yeah you know it's funny you say that it's even more bizarre once you get when you draft class and they go that rookie me that I I. It's weird like you'll know in an instant almost when you get to that first rookie minicamp and they put him on the field you know now. You've got your draft class. You've got all these kids on outside. They're all getting tryouts. And it's like you instantaneous. We hit on that we missed. And it's just it's it's funny because you go through this in here. Yeah certain guys will stand out and be like OK guys. We're not talking about size is just not just fat. -bility yes right. Yeah just feel it. You're like okay that guy's got I mean I can remember a couple of years ago. Crowder wasn't really proud that exciting but I remember watching him. You're going shorter. Quickness gets open catches everything. Just tough kid good good worker and so he's like there's always a slot kid that comes out here every year. There's Islam receiver. That comes out of here then. Like does everything right. Does everything good but it is bizarre when you actually get to the next level and you get on that field and I bet you saw the two Willie quick. It's quick and it's like this guy's GonNa make this guy might make this guy ain't GonNa make it I can remember a third round pick. I took in our first rookie minicamp. Sadly wonderful kid. Great New Mexico. But he's a great. He went out to that. I practice and I remember walking over to coach Morris. Remorse coach at the time going out house guy. Baby were both houses and I meant to cook more. Some like we're in trouble dame's like that and it was a third round pick and he knew it. I saw it and we're like because he was a corner and his eyes were like I can't do this and you just felt in. That's the weird thing about it like you do all this preparation you getting ready. But once they get on level this kind of athlete like you at this level. It's just amazing. You know. There's certain guys like Rondi Barbara made it through your terrible terrible. We almost cut him. And we cut out Harris. If you can imagine that we turn on by the worst. We've ever gotten buccaneer St John Randall. Maybe wow I don't know when they're for that but you know it's one of those things where you just as you see it. Senior bowl is great for that though because it is a chance for them to take that next step to the next level players and see do they shrink or do they shine. And you see that I mean right now. The Toledo quarterback he sees spinning that ball really well so justin. Both quarterbacks are really doing a good job here. Those two quarterbacks are we as a GM. What do you do after that? Then after after you see the guy with the shell shock looking traumatized you know. He's already in the bank so to speak right so the only thing I think you can do there. Is You try to put him in winning situations to get that confidence back so Y- maybe not go against that receiver. Let's I'm sure and sadly because you know you. Invested a picking him in the realities. I always got frustrated in careful when you draft a guy in the fifth seventh round specifically because it's easier not fall in love with him draft every five every would draft. Have you not seen the worm like yeah? Greg says it's all happy but then somehow two months later it's like the fifth rounder struggling. Let's cut him. I'm like wait a second. We were chest bumping right and so you always try to protect those guys to give them a chance to see if they can develop. But sometimes that's manipulating some of the stuff to like. Let's try to rebuild his confidence for a little bit. Give better chance of success and see how he responds that see if his body of work can change at all his never did but it is what it is obviously a senior bowls big part of this. We got the combine coming up. A you know we talked to a couple of guys in the Bucks Organization now. Who weren't there when you were there. Not all necessarily my Greenberg was there. But how much do you? How much emphasis do you place on measurable whether it be playing time speed that type of stuff or is it all really tape interview medicals for the combine? The combines more interviews in medical. I mean yes length and all those things are part of it. You start to get nervous. The offensive Lineman if they're like thirty one thirty one and a half like that's always been under thirty to be careful but you know the bench press being zero to me. I don't care if you the bench press and the reason why I say that warranted Twelfth Brady Quinn Bench. Lot little shoes eighteen right. We'll shields. Yeah right lose a hall of fame with us and so I went to Nebraska where you weren't supposed to draft Nebraska lineman normal to those guys can play so I think the bench press is just for show so but I do think I do look at like the Combi numbers for special for skill guys like the receivers and the corners. The twenty shuttle to me does say something if you watch how they run it so you gotta be careful. You can't just look at a number. Go okay he ran a four one to twenty show which is a good time or Moro six. But it's also the technique they run it in some kids. Just don't know they haven't been trained properly to run it so then he met around four three two. And you're just looking at number one four three. It's bad makes you go back and watch that twenty shuttle make sure like. Did he get his footsteps on? Did he like miss the line or do you get awkward something? And it's not just a technique thing it's actually a stiffness where okay. I don't see him bending his knees or hips or his backers ankles or whatever. It is so numbers. Aren't that important to me. Medical is huge but I can go back to medical and that's that's the hardest hardest part number. One in evaluated player is Mardi shut. Talked about coach. Schottenheimer was great and he said the most important part of a person is six inches from the breast bone to the backbone. It's that heart. How do you measure the heart right? So that's the number one and number two is. The medical is the hardest thing to do. Because I've drafted a guy named Bryan price in the second round of the bucks. Ucla's blows his hamstring's has a rip off the bone. Who never missed. Never missed a practice in college. Never missed a game. One hundred percent healthy a medical done ever never really played for us and from what I heard. He was a wrecking practices. That point super talented kit. Tough Physical Nasty L. A. Kid Very young really hard background but brought it right in tough as nails. But then there's also like I remember Gronkowski coming through the process and we failed as medical yet. Certainly medical came back to the honked him a little bit but that would have been really good. Pick for us so it's like you know. Those are tricky trying to get through those two things so it's measuring the heart mission medical. And what do you take from both of them do this process but for me? The combines more about getting to know them personally and I think one thing looking back. There's a lot more avenues to gather more information than I probably used to initiative. Yeah so one thing I want to talk to you about specifically as you start in two thousand nine with remorse. So you came in right after Bruce L. Jon Gruden but you guys were in the market for quarterback specifically where he Morris had. He said on record that he would've taken Josh Freeman number. One overall. Didn't help ya drafts. Yes you guys are you. Guys are picking nineteenth overall traded up to seventeenth inspect Josh Freeman. What is it like when you have a guy that you know like? This is our guy when you when you fall in love with a quarterback Dave get on into the last year with Daniel Jones. That's your guy. How nervous were you guys? Were for the first seventeen picks sixteen picks. I wasn't I wasn't I was Matt coach a little bit if you know where he is hard to be mad at him. He's awesome hope. He deserves at least some more interviews to become a head coach because he was thirty. Four youngest him and McDonald's were the youngest and he deserves another chance because he's really matured not in any way but he does not capture room. He does not speak to pros. I don't know if you've met coach. Moore's L. I know so well because he was at Hofstra and Walmart recruiting visit. He hit on my sister so much. That no I love Rahim in Dan clinical flow right so he One thing I do know about until your point Especially when I can remember my regret visit to officer talking to some guys that knew him because he played at Hofstra too was that he was one of those guys that you want in the trenches which yeah in and they felt that in his wasn't coaches. Tell you though the give you the raw stuff. But when we're talking minted than you knew he would go to extra mile for you and I think a lot of players. Nali played with them. Played played you know form all walked away was like he's he's genuinely music. Israel personal and you can obviously see the turnaround that happened when he took over play. Defensive Play calling in. Atlanta was tremendously different. So the trick. Going through the Josh Rosen world. Obviously it was helpful. The regime was at K. State with Josh Renton correct. By that was a huge part so he could see him as a freshman and see. What was the character of the guy because that was the big thing in? Joshua gave you know character concerns really amusement really nice young man good parents you know obviously physically gift of six six beautiful beautiful kid like two hundred forty five pound ormuz hands right. The big hands strong arm and generally super nice It didn't help when he started talking about this through the process in terms of like I take them number one overall that was after the draft but pre-draft. He'd made it very public that he'd liked Josh because my whole goal was that we were at nineteen. My goal was to hopefully trade back and get Josh Freeman fans but then once once all the stuff came out about his desire for Josh and I wasn't I was disappointed coaches because he knew better but it was his first year is thirty four. It's okay but he was public about in the paper so I figured if it's in our paper could be anywhere so I felt like giving up a six round. Pick to get the quarterback. My head coach loves and I liked. I'm not going to sit there. I liked Josh and Josh was super talented I want. I didn't want to go to eighteen because if I go to eighteen. I might be competing with the team. That's about to try to trade up and get him right. Yeah so if you go one pick ahead. You're going to get a deal at a better value right so if I go to. I think it's the chargers at the time if I go the chargers and offer six. It's going to cost me less than if I go to eighteen. Which is only one way. It might cost me a five because there might be another team calling in trying to get Josh Rosen. Yep and so. I went to seventeen to Josh and we selected him with our first pick. And we did need a quarterback. And I've I've thought through that many years post because we had some success with Josh and then we obviously had failures but the problem was in two thousand ten you can have Sam. Bradford but that class is devoid of any quarterback also and so nine was. Josh was the last one because we're standard Sanchez. Josh and there was pat white if you remember that area and all of West Virginia and then in two thousand and ten it was Bradford in you know all the guys never made. I mean there's a lot of guys drafted but none of them ever panned out so it was. It was look number. My three philosophies tough one. I find a quarterback. I think we all know that but then then my number two is. I'm in love with the Willie Colognes of the world. I protect a quarterback. That's my number two and then you go attack the quarterback but if I can't have the guy that I need up there and I can't protect hurt the forty niners right right. If you can't keep Jimmy Garoppolo healthy. They're nowhere near there. Five seventeen twelve but you keep them healthy during the super bowl of into GM's. And I think they hit it. I think you hit it right on pretty much. Finding a super bowl went quarterbacks. Like winning lottery is damn near impossible. Does every kid could jump off. I mean we're looking at Joe Boroughs in in Shit too and all these guys and they look amazing. I mean you wash national championship. I washed it. And there's no way Cincinnati right. Now you're saying like well Joe Barrels got but that may be great but even though he even Berle's Ohio kid doesn't mean he's going to be a Cincinnati bengals doesn't mean he fits scheme doesn't mean if he's GonNa jump off jump off the charts like you expected to. I think a large part of it is. How do you get them comfortable early in? That's how you do invest. An OFFICE IN LINE IS A. Hey I. He's our guy but I get some people to protect his neck for Oiseaux he can get comfortable. Get the confidence so I'm with you. I think that's the best way of going about it and I think even feel back to MEDAC got to the cowboys. I mean Digesting Jerry. Jones is like well we like them but we know he won't be around if he's running for his life half the time we got to get some boys around to protect them. Not There are a lot of teams. They fall victim of the eye test. You're right they look look great so all the right things. You don't protect the franchise it'll be facing a franchise but how does he handle house? You handle the NFL game in Balaj Party. Me and acclimated to debt is giving them time to hand in fell game keeping them upright when especially in crucial situations so I think the office of line is. I'm not saying that because I'm off as one but it's if if I had to put all the bank all the money in the bank go give me some buildings that can help develop. I agree with you and I think as a young quarterback you gotTa have type in you have to. Yeah you gotta give 'em that outlet that easy throw and I think that's going to be watch Haskins next year. What the Redskins do with their weapons around him to find out what? He is a quarterback. Because I don't think they've provided him all the weapons that he should have a young quarterback through so one thing I want to Continue on Josh Freeman is that I believe you told the story. And that's where I heard it but him on a bi week at a gun range and kind of his undoing. So because you're going to go into the memory to keep going because I can tell you this story but what is your question. Can you tell that story for? I can't remember how much the story's been told that I can tell you owning avenue. I don't even remember so the hardest part about the story is on our bye week in. Its over Halloween weekend. And so that's usually when everybody gets about four days away right so everybody tried you come in on Wednesday you leave and you come back on Monday so you got the Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday in that happened to follow over the Halloween weekend so I take my wife and our children back to Kansas City to our family. Are we trick? Treat with all of our family and I can remember being in the house of my brother-in-law who's a high school football coach and head coach in and I get the call and I'm like what happened and it's like well. I'm like how serious is it and Josh goes to a gun range and tries to shoot a gun. That's got a heavy kick back with one hand and should use to and the trigger comes back and he's one of those kids. Were you always hear about the bullet that if you're a millimeter offer two centimeters off? You'd be dead. He was literally like two millimeters away from you to never been able to pick up a ball hit a loss damn but it didn't quite hit the right word. Sever the separate where you know. It was just a really poor choice by him And became a very frustrating issue for me just because it was like this nonsense a poor decision because I don't you can go to a gun range. I'm not anti gun or anything. But at least have respect for what you're holding Israel respect for and I'm also like you're the quarterback of this team in your gun range like let's just make choices right because you know. I don't think Russell Wilson's out of gun range. I just don't think Birdie or read or whoever and but so. That was a so when you get that phone. Car nauseous honestly. Do you go to your fines. Bourbon poor the whole thing into a glass in fucking chugging. Just because you have to get numb I was with my in laws so I did not find urban and I absolutely crush a bottle of wine or whatever it was and I was. I was in my wife. She Remembers Day. She said she's she's living members. Me Pick up the phone and she looked at me and she's like I'm worse. Because how do you go to the owners? How do you go next not? Yeah so the next thing you do. Is You pick up the phone? You gotta call the owners and tell them what's going on. Who called you to tell you director security? I think yeah if I remember that. That's kind of blurry moment. Like remember what happened. But you gotta body by that I feel like it was our director security at the time. Told me about what's happening. Because he was with him at the. Yeah that is tough so in twenty thirteen eventually move on and get a Mike Glennon. That year was kind of you. Know who's GonNa Start Great Shannon's the coach at this time. Mike Glenn comes and does a pretty good job especially considering you know his draft status and it looks like things are going to be that way moving forward. Do you think Mike Lennon was not given a fair shot. I mean he can't start playing during basically a regime change and you know Kinda got shipped off right after so yeah so we josh at a really brutal offseason from an outs- from inside perspective and probably from an outside perspective yeah. I still like Josh Room. And he's a good young man. You just see made some tough choices growing up in sadly that resulted in a lot of other people whatever it is I mean. That's that's life. We live in Nashville Ball League right. Josh Freeman was going to be our quarterback into thirteen and started the season as our quarterback and thirteen but Josh Freeman was given us all the signals of like this is a problem all the way back from January February prior to the thirteenth season and so therefore quarterback became a lot more interesting to us as an organization because after twelve. He's still had a decent. I think he threw for four thousand yards. In Two thousand twelve hundred Greyhound of the first year four thousand yards at the at twenty seven touchdowns twelve remember exactly but he had like two to one plus sure interception touchdown ratio so it was still like okay we got. We got the Josh Freeman like. Okay we're realizing a roller coaster here because ten was great. Eleven wasn't great. Twelve is great thirteen. We'll see but the obscene was really rough and it really set us off to things that happen Prior to the draft that were like concerning for us in so quarterback became. We got to look for something and so we drafted. Mike Glennon third round and I felt like he was the best quarterback class turns out thirteen. Truthfully if you go back and look at thirteen draft class which I would encourage you to do and it's clearly the best quarterback in that class but is it good enough in the Nashville bully. You know just like I said in two thousand ten. No one's really planned in two thousand ten Clinton's still has a job but has been starter. And then what happened was is we were going into the start. A season and Josh So he he had a football camp and he didn't show up on football camp. That was a red flag and so then he goes into the regular season and he's struggling and we make change. I think it was on week. Three of the regular season and then we play Arizona. And we're winning the game and I remember. Glennon was backed up and threw a pick and then threw another pick in the fourth quarter we lost Arizona Rolling in so Glennon had to be the starter as a rookie. Who wasn't expecting to be started. Still no excuse. If you're good enough you've got to perform Mike got another shot in had other shots Chicago. He's been a victim of. He's a great kid. That's why people keeps hiring this while. I was in Oakland last year which I always think it's great that Gruden head guys. Martin Glenn Likes Migrants. No but Mike always. I've always joked with Mike and his agents. I'm like you know wherever. Goes a draft a quarterback so he went to Arizona was no he goes to Chicago? Chicago and the draft trubisky but he went somewhere. And I'm trying to think of the Zona Arizona but they drafted somebody wasn't was a keiler. No was it was right before. That Carson Josh Rosen Josh Rosen. Thank you so he goes you goes to Chicago. Gets a great deal boom trubisky? He's like okay. I'll go to Arizona. Boom here comes rose incorrect so he goes to Oakland with another draft a quarterback and he stays there a whole season. But you know for Mike. He was a little forced. But when you get your opportunity you gotta go. You gotta go and get done. You don't get it. Yeah something you did. That was pretty interesting. You made a blockbuster trade which doesn't happen all that much. You traded a first round pick thirteenth overall into Sheldon Richardson. To the jets for Hillary's. I think there might have been some low level. Ones in between there was a fourth round in the following year. Okay Yeah what was that like? Because at that time he was. You know he'd just come off the injury acl but he was really the silent until that injury and Rehab Dwell. He turned the plane. All right there with Tampa not that year but the next year he made two more pro bowls after that were and so what was that like. So here's here's the thought process going into thirteen draft. I did not like thirteen draft especially the top sixteen and if you I thought it was a bad draft class if you go back again history you go look at the thirteen class and you go. Look at the top sixteen seventeen picks. It's terrible but later on it starts to get stronger. You when you get to like seventeen through thirty two or twenty thirty two pretty good class. So I'm sitting there thinking the year before were playing. I think it was the saints in the Final Game. And this is under Channel and we're thirty seconds in the NFL and pass defense. And if drew brees I think throws for like thirty more yards Willie. We're going to be the worst ever in pass. Defense History Right. He didn't so it was like we're second worst soon. So the whole goal that offseason wasn't we gotta fix the back end and for me when I didn't like the front end of the draft. And Yeah you could trade every like well if you're thirteen straight back well. Somebody's gotTA call. You always tricky just because every trade this pick. There's a lot of times during the draft room and you're like I would love to trade back and you're like pick up the phone and make sure it's still got a dial tone. It does okay. No one's calling. So you gotta make a pig. You have no choice even though you'd love to move back just unhappy so I think everybody assumes you can always trade back but you can't So going into that. I'm like we have to fix back end. So I signed to Sean Golson from Hong. Ik The hawk. Who was you know my idea when I was building this team in Tampa Gerald McCoy was my warned Sap Levante David's my Dare Brooks? The Hawk was my John Lynch. I mean that there was a plan that I was trying to rebuild what we did in Tampa because I believe that works and so the Hawk was John Lynch and if we can get one more corner. That can be my Brian Kelly Ron Barber and then we drafted Jonathan banks at your two at a Mississippi in the second round award winner. Yeah he was a Thorp Boardman and so I thought if we can do all this we can change the back end. And so we made the big trade for Rebus Gave him the big contract? But also I. I changed the narrative on it. Because I'm I made zero guaranteed money so if you do you remember this deal. I had just landed with the jets and thirteen so it was always talked about. Yeah so I gave him six years ninety six million dollars correct with zero money guarantee right so I knew that I could control him every year. No matter what so I get fired and Jason Lights allowed to cut them which is great idea. The why did the deal the way it did. Because if it's not rehabbing like we had him come in and had the doctors look at him and felt comfortable with where his knee was. But for Durell You know the only thing I felt like looking back at Rivas and what happened is he's one of those players that has sustain a certain weight range and when he gets out of it. It's not the same player and so that was a struggle. After the for me in my personal opinion I was happy for Durrell to win a championship. Yup with the Patriots go to couple of pro bowls. He was all pro when you're after we'd made the trade but that's a tricky one. Those are hard and looking back. Ideally I would been better not to make the trade being candid because it didn't pay me. It was only one year sure but the mindset was we have to fix the back end and I felt like still at twenty eight years old. I thought like you see Richard Sherman where you're hoping that he's that he's still got years in the bank and it just didn't turn out that way. Yeah and as a box fan. I applaud that moveon applauded that move at the time especially one thing I do have to ask you about. Is Michael Bennett? So Michael Bennett had torn rotator cuff. I can't wait for this is GonNa be fun. Communication going on here. I think he had nine sacks maybe not even have sachs the previous year had a torn rotator cuff from what I heard. He wanted to be back. Seattle offered him a one year. Five million dollars at this point he was. He was not Michael Bennett that we know today he was. You know interesting edge rusher speed off the edge. I could stop the run. A little bit was a nice player but had the injury. What was the reason specifically for not resigning Michael Bennett? And I'm asking this on behalf of ducks. Yeah so it's Mike Greenberg. Did you talk to him? Yes he wanted us to actually ask you. Who is the worst higher? You've ever mid Greenberg's fault that we didn't sign back Michael Bennett. No I would like to say it is but it's not so Michael Bennett. This is a good story because I think bucks fans always like this is the guy right this guy that everybody's like and I think a lot of people let's take some steps back on my shirt. Michael Bennet entered the NFL as a sixth round. Pick or drafted undrafted undrafted. By by you know no Seattle Seahawks He came in the National Football League. Undrafted by the Seattle seahawks. We loved him so Seattle cuts him and we claim him off the waiver. Wire as a rookie. And some Michael Bennett. We actually stole off waivers just like like Eric Blunt just like a guy like Ted Larsen played for fifty sixty starting to you know we use the waiver wire aggressively to a point where. I just I feel Oh coach. Lewis in Cincinnati Marvin Used to get he literally on the paper in Cincinnati. That's how we handle the practice squads. It's not how do waiver claims in the NFL? I'm like no. That's how I'm going to do it. We'RE GOING TO BE AGGRESSIVE. Steel people and we're in a flip the roster. We're going to go. So Michael Bennett was actually undrafted by a Seattle seahawks signed to the Seattle seahawks cut by Seattle seahawks. We put it in the waiver. Claiming get Michael Bennett so now. Michael a rookie with US instead and comes. Great Michael Bennett and mine. Relationship to this day is amazing. Really I love Michael Bennett. And he knows in the family knows the Bennett family know that I loved them. In fact to a point where marseils actually in a game with the cowboys came up during the sideline and said like. I'm going to be your complaint with my brother and I was like ooh. I'm not supposed to talk to you. Good is having a so now. We fast forward. Michael Ben has nine half sack's he definitely does have some injuries in his foot. That are frustrating to people within the organization the problem we had was. I don't think there was enough respect in the organization. Totally that the knapsacks weren't is important. They really were meaning like what's really half sack's like you know how hard is why wasn't ten. It wasn't like and so it became very difficult to get the funding to be able to do it. And so and the emotional support behind it across the board when I say funding a lot of people like let me owners within the Organization. There was frustration because wouldn't practice every day. You know who is guys you really that good and so I can remember. Drew calling me on the phone to Rosa houses agent. Thank you and I was trying to buy some extra time to see if we could at least match the offer and we couldn't by the time and he said I gotta I gotTa move them and drew. You GotTa do what you gotTa do. Because I don't have a choice but to this day. I wish we'd have kept Michael Bennett. I am the GM. I didn't keep Michael Bennett. So it's on me. He's a player that he knows how I felt about him. And I go to bed at night because he knows exactly what our so. I think that's good to get out because I don't know pretty sure most Buxton's do not know that if I read Joe Box Fan. They're mad at me all the time So someone ask you about and this is kind of more modern day. But you've been pretty outspoken online about James Winston. Who's the current buccaneers quarterback? He is an unrestricted free agent. What would you do if you're the gym of the Bucks with your options being let them walk? Get most likely a compensatory pick transition tag which I believe the values about twenty four million dollars for this year which means he has the right to negotiate with other teams in the bucks can have the potential to match without getting any compensation back or franchise tag which will be a one year about twenty seven million dollar deal No other teams are GonNa Pony up to I think for him. Or Santo long-term deal. What would you do if you were the buccaneers? Gm Right now. Yeah so I think when you're in those situations you have to do the whole landscape of what's going on right. You can't look in your bubble if you look in your bubble your team. You're like well. It is thirty touchdowns. He's got all these yards. But if you to me. You have to research market of quarterbacks in the National Football League in you have to look at all thirty two teams and kind of like okay. Where are we in when you start to do that right now? Now we'll see what happens with Tom Brady. But if you go through all these different teams let's just take over the NFC just to make quick Ryden NC strike Dax going to be in Dallas Right. They're going to franchise. We're going to transition out. If you told me I could trade him I would trade for over James. Just be honest with you. So Carson's GonNa stay. Obviously Dwayne Haskins going to get a shot. Jones getting shot so that divisions debt. Right now you go to the central trophies get one to north. That's old school. Essential to g twenty seven you go to North Trubisky can get one where you're no matter what bears fan sink or whatever. He's going to be their staffers GONNA be. They'RE GONNA be. There is guaranteed money. So he's going to be there so now you've got to go the West. You got collars going to be there. Rob Lowe is going to be. They're GONNA BE THERE RUSSELL'S GONNA BE THERE. They're done now you go to. The south will breezy going to probably be there because the last time issues opportunity state. You've obviously got Matt Ryan is going to be there. Carolina up in the air right. But if you're going to tell me if I'm GonNa Guess Willie I would think that they would keep Cam Newton before they're gonNA sign James Switz- I would think but maybe it's close right. But do I think they're gonNA give Jameis Winston three years ninety million dollars Mil but I I would like okay. That's one of my one concerns right so now in the NFC. We're done and we only have one team like maybe could sign James Winston so you go the AFC okay. So let's go the West so like all right. So Philip Rivers. He's moved to Florida Destined so it'd be hard commute to make it the Tampa every day. Okay but you know. Do I think Travel San Diego de la just coach Lynnwood? He knows how important this year is. GonNa sit there say like James Win. Some of up can't write can't take the chance that we all do. So then you sit there and go. Denver likes drew lock. Good finishing elway's already been public about like he's our guy if we'll see about Patrick mahomes how that works out. So they're done right scenario again. You keep moving around to all these different divisions you're like well. Where's the spot? Since going to be Joe Borough. It's going to be done. Cleveland'S GONNA go with Baker Benz Coming Back Right and Baltimore's got Lamar so I'm running out of teams okay. So now we've got les teams left. So now we're going to go to the south and we're GONNA go okay so Jacoby perset. They may not be in love with them which I understand. It's like he's a fifty fifty. Do I think Frank Reich is a James Winston guy a doubt it but okay? I'm GonNa put them so now. We got two teams possibly Jacksonville Garment Shoe close. But I'm guaranteeing you Doug Marrone is I'm gonNA put his career. I'm no he won't put us. And so you got Houston obviously and so they're out in east so the AFC so we've got Brady obviously than the three young. I mean. Miami's taken a quarterback dare and then we got bobby. Yeah probably more so snout over here. We've got two teams basically. I've like Carolina's a possibility And so I don't feel like there's so where's my so to me. That's how I always looked everything like let's look around. Let's not look at him because sometimes I can get lost in that as a team. Because you're like oh my team and you can't see the bigger picture so when I look at. The bigger picture is on long long answered question but why would I pay him any more than last year? 'cause no one's going to bid for more than last year he made. I think twenty twenty twenty one million. Yeah and so if I'm going to keep them internally if everybody Bruce Arians comes to me said like I want Jamie's then Joel Siegal. His agent. Who I've done may deals with and I'M GONNA give him one chance to say yes and if he says no then when we get to window. Because I'm not going to tamper ahead of time. Ask Teddy Bridgewater. No I think you make a good point and I think it's interesting you said because I think sometimes votes put on my gene. Gm in eat you talk about not playing favorites you you have to go around the league. You have to see what it is when it's not because most of the time what happens. Is you fall in what fall in love with a Guy Story and subject you fall in love with a Guy Story and when you do that you you tend to play. You can't help you can't help yourself and so I'm I'm on the side of Chit. Just make it work for the future rather than and you you always pay it up and you know what I wasn't there when they drafted James which is fine. I've met James Has Multiple Times. I like him. I don't know if you guys have ever met also like him and he's an unbelievably really good kid and he is a good leader. But I gotTA BE BUCKS. I gotta I gotTa be realistic about like. He can't seem to let go of the fact that we're allowed to punt and so bad and so I have to look other ways even though actually like the young man I actually do. I'll get out of here on this free agency you've made some big splash signings How important is that first? Phone call in that first opening window free agency. Oh it's huge. There has to be a lot of prep work. I think the one thing I learned at this point Looking back since a lot easier when on the media side and in two things actually have learned one number. One is the personal pride that a player has by being drafted by club is more than I realized. And you will take a discount and I didn't know that really because it's it's it's a lot of pride in there that I had no idea existed because you want to go to France because you wanna get your money but the reality is you want to get paid in this team drafted you and there's some loyalty there that I'd never knew exalt reason I mean how the agency Jilin to he'll tell you when it came time for me to to you know this is. I had a choice to go to Chicago. When might try pretty much? Dan Andrews in ship from. Hey we even pay. We're GONNA love. You can be a bear and I pretty much was hanging onto my agents ankle. Like don't don't send me even though I knew I was going to have a chance to make more money because the locker room the Brotherhood the city. All of that your happiness was you know going through a sixteen game season. One thing that keeps you fighting as your peace of mind and when you're unhappy doesn't matter how talented you are. All that common faults wakes every day waking up like I fucking hate this place all shit at the end of the day. So you're a hundred percent right. Yeah I didn't realize that existed. As hard dylan now be on the side of the more able to interact with a lot more veteran players who kind of talked to him about it and the second thing was there was times. Were you have to understand the reason why? Why did they become a free agent? And I didn't do a great job I did. Sometimes it really jumps. I failed at. Why did it become a free agent? So we signed Vincent Jackson the fifty five million five hundred. That was for Josh Room. Because it's all about five also signed Vincent Jackson because I got into understanding of like the chargers the franchise tag and they're like they're done Carl Nicks who kills me to the stakes. He was the best guard by far in the national boy that was in the League and the Mercer and all that stuff happen but Carl. Nicks became a free agent. Drew brees was unrestricted and they had a tag drew brees reading issues so that one made sense. I'll be honest Eric Right. The corner resigned from Detroit. Why they become a free agent failed on that because Detroit needed. Db's and he's a free agent. I should have seen it so as simple as that question is why is he becoming a free agent? If you can't answer that question you should sign that player to me. Because if you can't get that you're Jewish. Might be different but I need to know why. Why didn't they? So Vincent was successful because Carl would have been successful. It just circumstance. But Eric wasn't because I didn't answer. That question is simple as is. That's the one I should have worked on harder and I think that as a GM. I would encourage all of them. Take find that answer out and sometimes it's cap related. It can be personal related. Might be a wife or a child or a decision. But get to that point and you'll be a better chance of being a great example that as Antonio Brown right now as Antonio's region just tell everybody don't trade for steeler wide receiver because it ain't workin you try because everyone none of them panned out Mark Dominik four bucks appreciate you coming with former plex? Gm Mark Dominik. Willie what was your favorite part of that interview man. He's charming dude. I really enjoyed talking to I think we don't understand about GM's is that one of the hardest things to do. Besides manager team is a is making sure they're doing the right thing off the field. Michael Mudslide coaches. You know coaches can kinda scared US right. Yeah Yeah but listen if you do. Xyz You know the team to get it you can get a GM has now play cleanup a lot right because coach is only in a box right but goggin some trouble approaches like all right well now up to power to be To kind of see how they're gonNA deal which you alongside the NFL when you're GM. And he talked about it. He sitting with his family. He's having enjoyed a great night it also. He gets a call that starting quarterback of the future of his organization probably won't have a damn thumb like fig about that and so now he has to go into cleanup mode. While was there a gun in his hand was aircraft and perform was something happened illegally on and on and on was he in a situation he shouldn't have been so he has to dissect this. Oh by the way and about four to five hours. Because what happens is if you're starting quarterback you have an incident right this the meals all over. So he's he has to play art. What happened to my quarterback guy out of the? How does the team handle this at a handle the media? How do we get through this? And so it's it puts you in a in a mindset where you're like man these guys they don't get enough credit the jams really don't get enough credit on. They have to. They never really go to sleep because they always eats guy kit mess it up for the rest of the team and they're always making moves. Try to plan for the future. So it's a it's a hard job it's A. It's a tough job. It's a hard job. It's exciting job. Especially when you get your guy. I ball drafted or receiving start. A Super Bowl quarterback on franchise quarterback is like winning the lottery. I mean let's be honest. It's not I mean you feel like yeah right. It's not. It's not one of things where you can look at a guy and say there's no way is not GonNa win the Super Bowl. How many quarterbacks have come out and you buy man. This guy has everything we should be able to play next year two years later. You can't find a guy so it's hard man and that's why you see a lot of GM's call it quits. Once they do win a super bowl with a quarterback because I'll never get that guy again or another got like that in the draft again so I loved him. I thought he was a shrimp harmony. Is Fun to talk to easy going and actually met for breakfast before. Yeah we were just chopping it up and I'm like who is. Who does this? Do that knows way more about me. Then I know about him right because Yeah Yup and all all of a sudden. He's walking into a cottage where we were staying and he's talking shop with me so It was a really really cool to having a quick sit down. Yeah he was Really just such a Great Lakes. Charming is a great word to describe him. Very charming guy really enjoyed talking with them. There are some issues. Buxton's have with him. I thought he did a really nice job. Shedding light upon those Michael Bennett. Failing to recycle bin. I think was on so I was really interesting but yeah the freemen story about how he you know almost had to get his thumb to the point of where it might have been amputated was crazy. You know if that happened today you know. You think about a young quarterback who's you know been successful you know maybe not To the pets like Sam. Darnold did this. Can you imagine what today would be like? Gus was like twenty thirteen Twitter wasn't as big as it is now. Not THAT INSTANT. News Wasn't as big and speculating while his fans. But had that happened. You know in present day that would have been the biggest story probably the whole year. Phnom just absolutely really fun Talking with Mark Dominik really great guy. Wish him nothing but the best really like him. But this has been a very fun episode of the going. Podcast memorable one four Well thank you guys for tuning in with the early drop or going to be Thursdays as neural moving forward but this early draft was needed. 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How will Tom Brady fair behind the Bucs offensive line?

Buccaneers Observer

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How will Tom Brady fair behind the Bucs offensive line?

"Every year in the NFL, it's a new team. As far as goals go. We have one. Putting the. Finger. Well come to the buccaneers. Observer. podcasts Ralph Phillips. Today's June twenty third twenty, twenty eighty two days to kick off. Get to see a buccaneers football. I believe it's so few days like last time we were over one hundred. Gosh, have been that many days as we a podcast, if the NFL season goes anything like our podcast is gone, we're not gonNA have. The season we recorded a podcast Sunday, and then after I think it was like an hour and a half long podcast almost hour and a half and then. went to editing and all that good stuff post produce it and the the audio which is totally crashed. It was horrible, so we couldn't do it, so we were trying to Redo it now so here we are off of vacation. We got an interesting show free tonight. A few good things to talk about a few bad things talk about. Talk about some corona virus. Of course We got some practice squad stuff going on Buchan ears news in general chitchat going to discuss some of a weather Tom Brady's tough enough to play behind this offensive line. We got a lot to get to. Let's do it. Job Right into that and it's just jump right in to buck near as players tested positive for covid nineteen as well as an assistant coach. It came out on I guess about a week ago. That an assistant had the buccaneers staff had just returned to the facility and then the coach, it was announced. Had contracted the virus. They have closed the parts of the facilities that may have been affected, and so they're doing a proper sanitizing, and then those areas will reopen Gregg allman noted that bucks, coaches and players weren't actually interacting in person when all this happened, so the players being infected probably didn't have anything to do with the assistant coach being infected, they haven't released the names of the individuals for obvious reasons, and those who may have been in contact with any of the individuals are under a two week quarantine, so but the bucks are not actually the. The only ones in the NFL according to pro football rumors. Ten teams have had positive cases now. The NFL PA put out a statement encouraging players to cease informal workouts with other players, and actually this is little funny. Gregg allman noted that despite the warning Tom Brady and the buccaneers players are still working out together, according to you Tom Brady's instagram quote, no excuses and so Gregg? Allman put out a tweet like that, and then he had a couple of players will former buccaneers players on current Blair's can give him a little bit of pushback Chris. Kanteh's. And this is why players don't trust the media in their locker rooms or Awad, I said what do they expect from us? Do football without other football players. This isn't basketball. Yeah, the Tampa Bay. Times actually did a whole article on it. They said the NFL PA. Recommends players stopped practicing together at that in quotes. I don't know what why they had practicing together in quotes until the start of training camps in late July despite the warning the Bucks Tom, Brady and company were back at informal practice Tuesday. You know screwed Tampa Bay Times. Well. It looks like on the bucks media because remember all snitching. Yeah, remember. We did this on the last podcast when it came out that the bucks players were practising together, and then individuals from the media contacted the league that are they allowed to do this, not wearing masks. Made a big deal about it, so they could just say it's a protest I know. Done. In Anthony Becca tweeted, he said rats. You're all rats. Leave all alone Jeez I. Do not know if he was saying it tongue-in-cheek, I. Think he was you know they're all grown men day under see on the rest. You can't put people on a bubble. It does bring up some interesting points one. Our coaching staff is a lot of them are on the downside of life. I guess you could say. I don't know how to. Slope Yeah well. We've got one. Tom More what he's in his eighties. Right? You Know Bruce. Arians is almost seventy. They're in the target demographic of really being affected by corona virus, so they probably do need to take some serious precautions, and then there's the other. Issue of what are going to do during the season with this is going to keep going on I. Mean if if a guy is tested positive because they got all these testing that they're going to be having in place for players, coaches and fans. If they go to the stadium, you know they're all GonNa. Get temperature checks and all that crap, so if a player at test positive whether he's a symptom attic or not. He's going to have to quarantine for two weeks. I mean he's. GonNa Miss Practice. He's GonNa Miss Meetings. He's going to Miss Games and this is going to be happening all over the league. All the time and it's going to be three or four players a week. Guaranteed from every team is going to be quarantined for two weeks right, but then if you come in contact with the person who has tested positive, they recommend that you quarantine for two weeks old team record right I mean. How are they GONNA do that. It's going to be insane. They've got a they got. They got to stop this insanity. The NFL. Practice squads were expanded from ten to twelve players in twenty twenty. So that's GonNa help now there's internal talk about expanding to as many as sixteen to help fight with this corona virus that going to forcibly quarantine anybody that test positive, even though there is a dramatic then they're going to have to have more than sixteen people on the practice squad probably yet, but at least sixteen people the good thing of. Of It is is the NFL PA has to co sign off on this, but it's just more jobs for players. Yeah, we're opportunities. Yeah, that's that's a pretty big increase. That's foot four times thirty, two, as like a hundred and fifty more people get to be NFL players, so yeah, they'll know. It's going to be interesting how this all works out. Because it's just the right now. It just doesn't seem feasible to. Look! We haven't even started practice yet. We've already got what three people in our organization. They're quarantined. Come on, come on man. Right and they're supposed to start training camp in a month, or that's when it typically starts I. Think Bruce Arians have announced today for training camp and then had to backtrack it was. Sentenced stone yet the. What was it? What was it? We talked about PODCASTS or they go. Oh, yeah, the last time Tom Brady, and then we're practicing in somebody from the bucks organiser books media called up the NFL PA. We assume because this is really the only way it could have happened caught up the NFL PA and asked if it was legal. These. People I know the you know it's like really I. Get it man, I'm do not get it, and then that takes us back. You know we we. We Bash on the media quite a bit not not as much here lately as we used to. do respect for these guys and everything but. Who are these players that have contacted Kobe won? We don't know because a hip laws. You know they do not have to put out who it is contracted is one of the things I've always found funny with this whole coronavirus. Stuff is that you have all these media and celebrity people who have loved coming out saying? Oh, I've got corona virus or whatever I think Tom Hanks did it and Chris. Sale, Yeah Yeah Yeah. They don't do that. I, mean legally. Nobody can say they. Haven't you know even if you know they, haven't I mean t legal to tell people about other people's health issues, so they're doing it I don't know why I guess for attention. Most of these people are extreme tension people, but here we have players and coaches on our team that have been quarantined, and they have been diagnosed positive with crow virus. Our media is not going to find now. and. They're not gonNA. Tell anybody even if they do find now out because they have that. They need that access, so they're not gonNA do anything to really jeopardize that and it just makes me you know. What are these guys do? What is media do now? Book called the Nfl lee-ing when there's practices going on. Make sure they're following the rules. Care Lane You know it seems like what they do is they? Sit there and a you know they've. They've got these guys in the locker as a talk with them. And sometimes they build up relationships with unlike Dr McCoy all to melt meltdown. The whole book and here's media had over him leaving because he was their know number one inside Guy but then they they listen to these people on the podium. Tweet Adam Schefter and Those, guys you know I mean it's like they just sit there and get their news. No different than I could get it. I could watch. Press conferences that that's. What we do, we don't have any I. Don't feel like I'm any out of the loop and those guys. So, what really that, but like Adam? Schefter was the one that broke that people in the facility had tested positive. Exactly what? How did our local media are? Bucks? BEAT writers. Not Get that news I just insane to me I. I really don't know what these people do. because. They're not doing investigative journalism. They're not doing like TMZ style journalism, although with the Tom Brady, sovereign helicopters and camping out across the street and stuff, but they're not I don't know man. It just seems like a really easy job. Yeah, I think people attracted to sports journalism. Just like sports want to hang out with athletes. Were you were? You at the College for Journalism Yeah for my first year and are pretty competitive, journalism, school and Sports Journalism was the biggest draw like it was a really hard to get into those classes. He pretty much had to be like a senior and. You know seniors get to register burst or depends on how many credit hours you have, and you would have to basically log in like a soon as it opened to even get in those classes like they went. Immediately are I could understand why like you said, won't you WANNA be around the athletes and celebrities sports, but also because. The and this got beat easiest job in the world other than a weatherman. I think the weather got be the. There's no accountability whatsoever you know, and I would. If I was a weather man, I would just get in front of Cameron on say a fifty percent chance of partly cloudy and fifty percent chance of rain I'd say that every. He can't be wrong though they'd be wrong exactly well, I do have to give credit to guys like Greg, Allman who are approaching the professional a bit differently. Guys more in depth interest seen feature articles. Yes, yeah, so a lot of it is more in house though it's yeah, but he has. Gone Out in interviewed players past coaches and stuff like that, then that's what I'm talking about. Talk about you know. These guys are not investigative journalists. They're not going out and getting contacts with the players, friends and coaches, families, and just build networks of basically spies I guess and feeding that to the fan base and we've had this. We've talked about this quite a few times over the years. How they withhold information from the fan base that could be quite beneficial like to. to Sean Jackson incidents with the buccaneers and James Wisden. We found out a year after it happened basically when they were trying to run him out of town all the stuff were you know he was kicking stuff over in the locker rooms at Christmas displays and Volunteer Meeting Fall Asleep in meetings. Did something so horribly bad to Jameis Winston at some in the media said that if he ever got out that they he would never be able to work in NFL again, so we found this stuff out way after the fact, and then it's like Kevin winslow junior. How in the world did we not hear about that? Until six years after he left the team, we find out he's. He's known for carrying around A. Fake! That! He could have sex with on the road. On the planes and stuff, it's just. It's insane that. How did we not know this? He goes to court and it all comes out. You know what does the media do I? That's what I don't get. No I do know what some things they do. They really push crap I don't care about. I can tell you that right now. So what they gotta do like about Gregg Allman and a couple of other ones. You know they don't put their their political beliefs out there and they're empathy for certain players. You know they just kind of report on what they're supposed to as agenda driven. Right, so I respect them for that, but I knew know that lot most these reporters they like certain players, and they're going to present them in a good light they dislike. Present them in a bad light. That's actually a good segue to the Sean Jackson. Today because it's funny. If you've been what's up that long? When Jackson here are criticism? Was exactly this you? There was enough to criticize Sean. Jackson about on the field that you didn't have to start bad malaine him about on the stuff that happened a year ago that we can't verify never reported at the time like you can look on the field and go. Yeah, that he really needs to step it up. He's not pulling his weight, so it wasn't really necessary for them to start digging up all this old stuff and stop. were. Bashing Him and trying to make him look like really bad posts which he might have been, he could have been, but it's like. Why are you reporting about a year? After it happened, it was all in coordination with each. Always work, it's like and only when you all decided that you wanted to run out of town. So JABEX FAN is reporting. To Sean Jackson did an interview, and he commented on genius, and he's a genius me at the Sequoia Jamie's man. That dude has a lot of upside, and when I say upside playing with him, and he bought I feel like he has all the intangibles to be a big time quarterback in the League I. Think just a lot of times last year he was careless with the ball and didn't really manage the ball as well as he needed to be being a top tier. Tier quarterback in the League I think a lot of times. If you're talking the talk and not walking the walk, you know a lot of guys are not going to follow behind I'm not saying that's necessarily him, but you know more on the talk the talk. He just got to back it up on the field. I definitely think he's a starting quarterback in the NFL now Dijon Jackson is performance on the field of garbage. Let's get that out of the way now but demand. Except for Ron Fitzpatrick was stolen time well like the beginning of the season, he was okay, even when James came back, he did have better chemistry with Fitz Patrick, and that was pretty obvious, but the man never said a bad word about genus Emmer, no, not in public. Never publicly the media gave him every opportunity to do it. He never did never said a word. Yeah, it's a weird, thank you, I. Just don't trust them. It'll be flat out on the. Do not trust them, and that's a shame. It's one of the reasons why we started all this podcast. Four of it raises very small reason, but you know it's just. It's like We see stuff that happens. That is the exact opposite of what the media is trying to tell us, and so we thought hey, we want to give voice to our side of it too so. It's all about the fans. It's all about a fans. One hundred percent. The fans are what matters but out the fans there would be no football and we are the most important thing about football media likes to that they are the most important thing about football, but they're not in any way shape or form. It's a matter of fact you totally get rid of all of them and it wouldn't. It wouldn't affect football whatsoever. They are a middleman between us and the fans. Sometimes. That doesn't need to be there so here we are. We are a fan. podcast made for fans by fans about, fans. But In which we got a fan email from down under worm, women, roar, and the men thunder. You got that Handy Oh yeah okay Simen. Simon so last time we talked about Simon from Australian, and he's sent us his game experience. which if you WANNA share your game experience, please. Do you can reach us on facebook? Twitter email anything how you became a fan. I always liked those two and a fan of the buccaneers. Yeah, so I'll just read the email. Firstly. Enough to married someone who allowed me to incorporate attending a bucks game as part of our honeymoon, so there's more than one of us in the world guys. Much to her dismay at the time once the schedule came out with consecutive home, games finished the. The season this very quickly became attending two games. And why not? Why wouldn't you simply walking toward the stadium? Before the Texans game and seeing the number of people wearing bucks colors was unusual. I've only ever seen one human in person at home on in Australia sporting such merchandise when I asked him about his hat, he clearly didn't know what the NFL even was just looked cool. Funny how he said I've only seen one human. Has Seen like dogs or Kangaroos with book? Maybe they do, but he has an encounter. which this is funny because we live in Redskins, country and it's kind of a similar situation I remember the first game that I went to, and it was bizarre is being surrounded by box fans and it never happened before. It's a great feeling if you've never done it as a bucks fan, which we realized that most fans haven't done it, you know you don't get a lot of. There's more buck fans that live outside Tampa area than there are. People that are bucks fans in the area. I mean there's millions of buccaneer fans across the world I. Don't get the opportunity to go see buccaneers game. If you ever do, do it because it's awesome you. It's a weird feeling being around about. Fifty sixty thousand people who all like the buccaneers. So Awesome Simon continues. The Fan sitting nearest were all very friendly and invited us to their tailgate. The following week after had mentioned, we were also attending the Falcons game as they'd made the why slash Mrs. which I've heard term. You prefer to use feel welcome. She was cool with the idea, and if anything encouraged it, so we met up at eight am. Where I was greeted with the first of many bourbons. They've remembered I. Don't drink beer as they proceeded to prepare some of the best food. Food we'd eaten during our three weeks in the country are seats for elsewhere for this game, but we up with the people afterwards as we had enough time to before we leave for the NHL that night, I think my better half forgot. We also have the hockey game that same day Simon. You can throw down buddy starting Bourbon at eight am making it through an NFL game, and then heading to a hockey game like you can hang I think I would have been asleep in my car. Whilst both gains and losses, the fact they were closed, and predominantly one score margins for their duration meant they were exciting to watch. The game seem over much quicker as opposed to watching them on TV, but that could also be due to the time. They are on and Australia. A ONE PM kickoff is at two thirty am or four thirty am once. Daylight savings kicks in on Monday morning. That's crazy to me they. Yeah the Games! With James I. DO regret that we didn't get to a game last season because they were so exciting very very entertaining as you can say about James Entertaining, yeah and At the two games that we went to. The court was it Josh Freeman both gains the first game we saw was the redskins. Not a clue remember either. But they were losses and not exciting, so so yeah, we love to hear these kinds of things from fan so again. If you guys have, you're GONNA. Share your experience or how you became a fan will read it on the podcast and thanks to Simon for taking the time to write that all out. It was a I love that. The bucks fans embraced. Sam brought them to their tailgate. Brian some libation, exactly so hospitable. It's awesome. That's one of the things about football and sports in general. You always bring this up. You know it's very unifying. Sports are very very unifying and man we. We definitely need sports back I. Agree. I agree it is, it's the great unifier you know and especially football you get people from all different backgrounds and belief systems, and it's the world all over the world, and yet come together for this common cause. I i. do think we need to bring sports back irrespective of this virus because it is as he can tell, a lot of people are insane. We're all cooped up at our houses, I know. I'm a basket case, so we just we need. We need something to look forward to. We need something to bring us all together an alien invasion that would do it. That's my number one thing with to unite us all hailing invasion that or war with China I don't know I mean the alien invasion. We'd be united until my all. Know Hey you know what would happen. The president gives crazy speech just like an Independence Day, and then we all go out there and just kick their butts. I'm not fighting alien. WHAT THEIR LITTLE ALIENS Yeah, but there's a thousand of them. I'd get some big shoes, and would you rather fight a thousand small aliens? Thousand Rabbit size aliens or One, horse size. That's a good question. You Know Shaquille Barrett. We placed a franchise tag on our outside Linebackers, Gilbert for the twenty twenty one season. The deadline for him to sign, that is coming up and he has a site yet. Deadline is July fifteen I mean he's still got plenty of time, but if he doesn't sign it, then he's going to come to training camp or nothing like that right? That's kind of when they hold out right if they don't sign there tender. These concerns or the the negotiate a longer deal for him now you. A more lucrative and spread that out a little bit, so we can give some more caps bays. Maybe some sign Jamal Adams but Keep an eye on you. He has said Jack. Barrett is awesome. He's A. He's a great great guy. It seems like he really likes football here really likes music and he really likes the Tampa. Bay buccaneers I mean. He said their off-season. Even take you know a lower amount of money to stay with Tampa Bay. He wants to be here for the rest. For the rest of his career, and that's so awesome, so he'll get this done. He's going to sign it. I'm sure this is. Mainly due because of the the coronavirus and stuff, and maybe agents say, and we know that's trying to negotiate a better deal. We can't best deal that we can. There's no rush weather, but just keep an eye on July fifteenth is the deadline, so we've got another three weeks, basically Our team is just so i. was thinking about this the other day? Our team is so stocked full of great character people. Mike Evans Mar Pat. All across the board. Yeah, it just seems like they're all really grounded. A lot of them are family men. They're dedicated to their craft football. You know everyone's. Kinda got their head on straight. We don't have any problem personality. Yeah that's a huge huge issue, and that's one of the things Jamal. Adams, they like. I said of all the people in the secondary. If I could have anybody that was Jamal Adams said that months ago now he put us on the list of people. He wants to be traded to which I find funny. Because the rest of the teams he has his list were all big national teams or teams that have a chance to go into the super, bowl and then he put. Put us on there, so that's a good thing because you know. We're getting a lot of media attention this year and we got a good chance to go in the Super Bowl, but the issue with him. I have is I. Don't like this and the attitude of Hey I. don't like this team anymore. Trade me, you know it's just I don't want that in our locker room. It's A. Character issue to me. Yeah, it was the same thing last year with Melvin Gordon. When everyone's like he's holding out. Maybe we could get him and unlike now again. I don't care how good you are. Yes, yeah, that's what the Tom Brady is so unique in that you know here. He is considered. The best quarterback that's ever played may be the best player that's ever played in the NFL and to out. His whole career is never been about him. He's always taken less money to make sure that the team has I mean he could have got paid forty million a year. What what is Matt? Ryan supposed to get next year forty, one, billion, forty, one million. Two yeah while every. quarterbacks are getting paid twenty five thirty million dollars a year. You know Tom Brady's over getting paid eighteen, million, twenty million. You know it's like come on now. Okay? He has played twenty years, so you? Know. It's not like he's poor. No right twenty years of eighteen million dollars. But the point being it's a character thing and we we. We seem to have a whole team full of guys like that. We're just very very character driven, and they're good people and they want to be at Tampa. Yeah, like team oriented. This off off-season Cambrian. You took less money to stay here and Mike Evans has in years past restructured his contract and give the bucks a little more wiggle room, so and they all seem to have very good chemistry with each other. All the units are very tight. The secondary seems very very tight. The defensive line very sight of the front seven back very tight. Wide receivers I what I really like Chris Godwin's personality and character he's. It seems like a really good guy. Same same thing with Shaquille Barrett you know. They just seem like really good guys I don't. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm wearing. My buccaneers tenants sunglasses when we'll look at them. I think maybe, but I do think that these guys are very special well. We've gone through the period of having a bunch of bad care to people on this team. As a matter of fact, this might be the last the first year last year. There's been a long time that we haven't that. We've had bad characters on our team as his been here in the past few years where we haven't had. Back in the two thousand eleven season that WHO Karsh you know, the raigmore is with the going out with to strip clubs at the players. And fines and suspensions and Yeah and then we went through Josh Freeman his character. Prod I mean Doug. Martin went the drug problem keep. Yes, swanky Baker, who just came here for a paycheck? Not Committed worke quite a few those yeah, yeah, so yes, I like this team I guess. Every year so weird because leading up to it, you get such an attachment for the team, and then the next year Zoe's totally different or You'll lose some people that were like a core part of the year before like. Are Now. This year. And Not Hurts but. To see him. Go get a starting role. Yes, Omar, he deserves it. It still makes me sad. Heart hurts, but this is the the first year I can remember a long time where we kept so many players usually have about a thirty percent turnover rate. Yeah, we didn't really lose anybody. Such James Wednesday. Well yeah, OKAY THAT NASSIB! But Yeah Yeah. You're right I. Mean No, we. We lost wisdom, but we upgraded in. Tom Brady NASA really the only loss we had where you went home in. It sucks Bo Allen Yeah it was one of upset about. You get it. And he'll be any with the Patriots think he's at the Patriots now, so he's going to be just fine. Wide just figured. He went straight back to the Philadelphia closest. To us. So, the bugs cornerback Carlton Davis you know he changes number. He used to be number thirty three now. He's twenty four. He did that in tribute to a Kobe Bryant. Hadn't heard about that. Yes. He said Kobe was my all time. Favorite athlete since I was a kid. He's always been a guy. Take after in terms of his greatness and what he's accomplished. That was so crazy because you know we don't. We don't have time for basketball. We Watch basketball. We don't want to be other sports. There's word, but I used to watch. NASCAR HOCKEY BOXING UFC. Football right it was it was it was a twenty four hour. Seven, day week job watching and I'm sure there's some overlap there I can get having like a fall sport, and then maybe summer sport. But with that many sports, you definitely have some over. There was times where you have to sit there and go. Oh my gosh, what am I? GonNa Watch tonight. You know like a hierarchy like Oh. Yeah Buchner's I of course. It hockey was there were so many. It's like baseball. There's so many hockey games if you miss. Want US no big deal. RACY INDIANAP- through anyway so. Yeah. It was good during the summer, but once the once the the season Star for football I never watch NASCAR during football season because it's on Sundays yeah. and. You know, and then they started doing it stupid playoff stuff which out on. But yeah so I stopped watching all of it, they I'll watch now football I. don't want I. Don't I can't even watch college football because it's just the buccaneers take up so much time in the good thing about cutting out all those sports is devote more time to the buccaneers skin I always get always good, but. That's what I was saying. We got off on the. we don't watch basketball, but it's like Koby. It was just such a cultural icon and you know it was so sad. What happen and so I can feel you know I can appreciate Carlton. Making that move? It's like yeah, that's cool. It's a cool tribute either some desks that when they happen it just. Kinda feel like the earth shakes a little bit. It's like that's not supposed to be that way. It was like one of the Michael Jackson same thing you know it was just like what no and it just kind of came out of nowhere Yeah Whitney. And that's another woman Houston. When she died I was like well, that was another one I was alive. Win Elvis died. That was a big one, too Chris Cornell dying to lead singer for Nirvana Kurt Cobaine. Those things just it's such cultural icons that when they pass away. It's like a pillar. Society has fallen. Does everything Kinda of unsteady for a little bit. Weird, we're here. Yeah, the. Koby died and I read that it. It was kind of a gunshot and I'm like I don't even know. Who's he played for? But it was. In the league anymore now, but it's like you know you've seen. And, especially like him with his little girl, who also you know, it'll service. I know awful, so, but we just tank this. Now. We can thank her all Davis for that. I'm glad he said I don't have to keep a roster like open than I probably three or four games, because a bunch of them has changed numbers particularly in the secondary. You now Sean Murphy Bunting. He changed his number. Chris Godwin changed his number. What's he would receive for teen? He's fourteen now. Okay? Yeah, it's going to be weird having to get US everybody, so we do. We don't even have to get used to new people we have to assume. Yeah. That's usually my biggest issue. Every year is because I watch these guys on film every year and I watch a lot of hours of film a week, so I get accustomed to how they play and their numbers and their names and their accessories. You know like who's wearing armbands, the tendon bands, or who usually has a towel or I can't follow a lot of guys and you'll be like you Hannah. That was so I'm like how do you even know that concede the number he's gone can tell from the Yellow Jeremy Coil were those tended bands on his elbows. He still wears so it makes them easy to identify. Carlton Davis Wears Guinness Carlton Service at Gamer One of the guys in the secondary, whereas like full body sleeves. With pads, and actually it looks. Like I skateboard a Shin Pads on his four. Interesting. What anyhow get over the course of sixteen weeks sixteen games? You know watching you know the many hours you put in watching these guys over and over, and he used to see them and then the next year. When they're gone. You got to remember all the names and the numbers and all that stuff again, and it usually takes a couple of weeks to learn the new guys. Yeah, 'cause you'll go all. Look at what so-and-so's donating nutso south. That's the new guy but thankfully with our numbers on jerseys being changed, I won't have to rely so much on the accessories. They're wearing identify. Some possible redesign members. Did you see Mike Evans today they came out with his pictures of him in Jersey. That's right. As a matter of fact, there was pictures of Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski put out in the new uniforms as well. The future uniforms and I'll tell you what they look Fan Charles Start. Why is it that I bring up Mike Evans and all you can talk? Talk about it's time because we had talked about all this. The last time were recorded this podcast and we forgot about what we talked about so we're trying to I'm trying to bring it all back up. Because in the Mike Evans came out today. The picture Hilmo. It hadn't Sunday when we did this. We talked about Tom Brady Rob. Gronkowski absolutely time no. but yes, they look fantastic, and some people are getting their pewter jerseys in already apparently. You said Molly. I haven't seen I. Think. I've seen a couple but We're still waiting for ours, but anyhow pat. McCaffrey reacted to the I. Look at Tom Brady, and the new buccaneers uniform, and you gotta listen. This is fantastic. Let's take a look. Tom Brady in. Tampa Bay uniform. All my on. Are you kidding? How does handsome get better luck in? South! Jersey, that's. Not All talk perfect. Perfect look at the college looking at all three different pictures and his big braces. Success took. More now than he ever got new. England look out. Thankfully is to be a buccaneer just by CNN's Jersey, AJ Done! Yeah this is the third picture kidding me. It looks like he's twenty two again. He's refreshed. He's revitalized. He's thankful to be in a place. That's thankful for him. Tom Brady TB twelve looks brand new in a bucket nears uniform Congrat-. Also love it. Love it. Love it. Yeah, great, and in Mike Evans is pictures came out today with whom and his jersey, ill looked. Good looked good I didn't think they were spectacular. Tom Brady ones. There was actually only one picture with him in the Pewter Jersey. Same with. Yeah Yeah. It was from behind the names like catching the ball and I. Yes I. Really do often. Can they wear those serling at her? Just how remedy that that's a good question. I have no idea three times. Maybe don't know between one and three is my guess K. To look at. Checked on that one. Yeah so new uniforms is awesome. New Pictures of our guys in the uniforms are awesome, but you know what else is awesome. With all the statues being ripped down across the country, the Jerry richest in you in Charlotte, in front of the Bank of America Stadium was taken down. Just reeks of pettiness on tempers are. That's all I can think of us like I can imagine have out there in his BMW like polenta down himself like tethering chain. Pulling off his back bumper or you know, he drives a tesla come on now. Probably I duNno Card Yeah Right. Yeah! which yeah I just found that hilarious like everybody's getting in on a taken down statues bandwagon. I'm glad it's a not hit the buccaneers yet. I'd hate for them to take down the statue where the in the at one BUC place inside. They got the statues and. All. Yeah or Super Bowl era. What they're inside a building. It seems like those are usually pretty safe, I guess. For Now Let's not give people ideas. Oh I have one more piece of News Scotty. Miller got married. That's right, see. We talked about all this the. Forgot! Yeah, that's awesome man. Good for him for? It'd be miserable like the rest of last. You look me dead in the. Smile on your face. When you said. Tell if you're joking and. Joking and I don't care I'm GONNA. Make it miserable now. You're GONNA accuse me. Sauna might as well do it. Is as you're not already. Yes, so that's nice and Chris. Godwin. He's engaged right? Yeah, they got engaged John. In in South Africa. She's a What's the word athletic looking girl? God was. Fiancee! She looks like a professional bodybuilder. Almost oh, yeah, I could see I. Don't know that'd be interesting She was his high school girlfriend. I think she'd better get a ring. Put on that finger before he blows up. A crm dead. Well, not yeah, okay. Engagement Ring. But they've been together a long time. I, think like eight years or something. Don't matter man you. Get that big. Money. NFL money things change. Get that ring, so you get half. Lameta, what happens? Yes, Oh, Gosh, do we have any single guys on our football team anymore? I know we do I'm just proud of. We got a lot of married. We're very family oriented team. Yeah, so we're I. think that's important because it just a ground zero data. Verbally And they does change. You become an apparent, but you know. A marriage cooperate in a marriage of builds character. Like misery. To hard labour. Builds character. Just, kidding kind of all right, so are you ready to talk about? Tom Brady behind our offensive line Ralph did video on this A lot of you might have already seen it. It was up last week. Yeah, a lot of the media. The talking heads national media local media. Almost every article and What do you call the interviews? When these guys are talking about they? They say that their biggest concern is you know Tom Brady and. Offensive Line, saying that you know keeping him on his feet off, his back is going be Tampa. Bay's biggest challenge, so I went through and I've seen every pass play every offense of play from the Patriots two thousand nineteen season, probably at this point about. Eight times and I can tell you beyond a shadow of doubt that Tom Brady is one tough dig man. He gets hit hit hard and he gets hit a lot. I don't know where they're getting this information from I, you know. I, don't know he just they. They build these narratives and everybody just seems to go along with it. You know like they give you the impression. That Tom Brady plays against them on the best offensive lines in the world, and he's made a glass, and it's offensive line that has made him not get hurt, but that so far from the truth, I mean I was watching their offensive line from two thousand nineteen season, and they're rated fifth best fifth best offensive line for pass protection were we were ranked twenty second, and I can tell you with I would. I would put everything I own that our. Our offense of line was just as good as ours and path protected. Maybe even better, you know our big issue was are running. Backs are tight ends and Jameis Winston, style of play, which is what caused most of the pressures and sacks, and all I could sub, or at least a large percentage of Tom. Brady got hit. He got hit a lot. His thing is is that he did. He's like drew brees any any buccaneer fan. We all know how aggravating. It is playing drew brees, because you can have him in your grasp, and be taken into the ground, and he's GonNa. Throw the ball. Whether it lands at Somebody's feet or lands out of bounds, or whatever right behind offense in line, and never an intentional grounding. Call Right, and it's so annoying. I can't tell you how many times that's happened to us throughout the years. Where we're. You know you've got him sacked going down and he just throws the ball with Tom. Brady does the same thing, and he will stand there with a guy come and running at him full-bore, it holds stand his ground and chunk the ball. Just, throw it or get rid of or whatever that's the thing though he but he takes it and you know he's getting hit all the time and I looked up the stats like his pressures. Were Kinda similar to. James, Winstons I can't remember it was either the pressure that the hits were the same, but then the other one was about twenty less than and I'm watching these games and I'm like there's no way I mean. Tom Brady was getting pressured. And I want to save more than James. Winston was he just handles it different in Jameis. Winston will immediately once he feels pressure. He's looking run in escape from the pressure of times running right into line. got into the. Runner right in the guys that are being blocked and you don't get that from Tom Brady. You just don't get that. I. Don't take I saw that once. In that whole in all of two thousand nineteen, there was a couple of times where he scrambled out of the pocket, a little bit but generally he will move around in the pocket and try to stay lined up behind his offensive lineman. Depending on how they're blocking so that they don't have to worry about blocking the trying to figure out where he's at. You know what I'm saying with. With James Wisdom when he was running around, he's often. The vomit had no idea where that half the time right there, Baxter to him. Yeah third. They're trying to block a guy standing in front of them and Jameis. Winston has run over to the left and the guy there blocking just walks away from the block and goes and tackles James Winston you. You don't get that at all. At Tom Brady in know it's a your you go at Tom Brady. He's in the pocket he will avoid. Getting tackled every now and then we'll move around in their. General he likes to stay in that pocket and he will take the hit to get that ball out and he's. He did it so many times I I'm sitting there going. I don't know how this guy's getting up after some of these ads because he clobbered TB twelve diet. Right he does have that by that. Helps with patient and. Recovery Recovery I. think have been strangle a good stuff. You know he's really big into being able to bounce back from injuries, and he's only had fifteen games that he's missed due to injury, and it was all in one season that was two thousand eight. He got hurt and week one and was out for the rest of the season other than that he has not. Not Been Kissed a single game for injuries in nineteen years as starter and a lot of those games are a lot of those seasons. He was also going to the playoffs, so he's not just playing games. then. Yes, which I didn't factor in in in the video I concluded at the end I said well, I'm going to give them. I'M GONNA. Make it a tie because. Tom Brady has he's played ninety four percent of his games. Only only six percent of his games has not played due to injury Jameis Winston had five percent of his games due to injury that he didn't play due to injury and Jay was wisden got hit a lot. A lot of it was his fault or running backs, not blocking whatever whatever the reason why? He's still got hit a lot. So you know I'm like well Tom Brady's been playing for twenty years. You know that's gotTa being something, too, so you know I just couldn't figure it out. I was like well. I'm just going to make. The wash it's a tie between the two of them in Mali pointed out to me in our last podcast, he said Yeah, you know, and during the he's never missed game in the playoffs and everything and I. Oh, my Gosh I, didn't count the plane. So if you do that, Tom Brady is like ninety eight percent. He's only missed like two percent of games due to injury, and that's one is only one season. It was there in two thousand and eight, so the guy when he gets hit sometimes you see quarterbacks, you know those kind of their, or they'll get up real slow or whatever and I just bounces right back up i. mean you know he's not like jumping up and going? Every time, but you know he gets up. He aids the never seems to bother him and I've seen him. Give you watch the video. There's a couple where you get SUPLEX. Guys will warned. He got bit totally backwards another one. He got a hit the back. At full bore didn't know that guy was coming at all and lamb I mean the guy. The guy takes it and he He bounces right back from it, so the guy is tough yet. Can he play behind offensive line? Yeah, that's not going to be issued this year. All our offensive line at minimum is going to be top ten most likely they're going to be top. Five is a good possibility. They could be best Lee. Tom, Brady is GonNa make a look better than they are Jameis Winston made him look worse than the ray and especially a quarterback thinking. Get the ball out faster. Right. Yeah, he's he's. He's very decisive he's. He's not going to sit back there. And you know triple pump to the same guy before throws it to him because he can't decide who he wants to throw two or whatever he's so good at maneuvering in the pocket. Species got yeah. Yeah! I think everybody is GonNa be fascinated at how much improvement or offensively is going to have this year. Okay, let me ask you two questions because people brought this up in Youtube comments. The first is Donovan Smith you know Donovan has gotten a reputation as being kind of Slouch as far as left tackle. Go, so please talk about what you expect and your opinion on Don. Smith Beaumont Smith is a very good football player. His issue has always been. Effort effort. Yes I mean he's got the strength. He's got the size he's got the technique he does. Our Lawn Linemen said that he the strongest guy on the line is big. and. His whole issue always been being lackadaisical, not fourth a whole lot of effort, and you know the first few years or the first four years. He was here I he just sucked. You know I was so frustrated with him. And of course you know here, buccaneers observer. We never call for anybody to get fired. We were very vocal about Donovan Smith, having not earn the contract that he was given. And you know our whole thing last off season was. If you're mad about a certain player, not being here. You need to blame Donovan. Smith, because that's where all our money went. That's right. We didn't really deserved it. I mean we hold our players. Accountable will hold the coaches and ownership and all that, but you. We never call for everybody. Get caught or Farner to. It's just you know I'm a fan of the team that includes everybody from the waterboy to the ownership. Donald Smith last year got his contract. Would you get twenty million so twenty seven million? Dollars for seven. Yeah, so I think Bob China. Remember how much it was per year. Anyhow, he got a big contract. He got paid top left. Tackle money. We didn't feel like he deserved it well. He played very well last year. He played. He earned his money. I thought you know he wasn't lackadaisical. He played through. Yeah. I think that was the biggest problem with him. Is that in two thousand eighteen or prior to twenty nineteen? He would give up on a play and then turn around. Around and watch his guys sacked Jameis Winston and it was so infuriating. Yeah, we talked about that. A How dominance myth pence Donald Smith spent more time watching his sack Jameis wisdom than he did block in his throughout the season. Okay, I just looked up his contract. It's three years forty, one million with twenty, seven, million guaranteed. That's what I was thinking. So in two, thousand, nine, hundred and his cap, it was twelve and a half million in twenty twenty. It's fourteen and a half million. So he was getting paid, and he stepped up and he he he played. That well. It's so unusual to have a guy. Get paid and his. Cow Up right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's usually the other way around. Yeah, you remember that hit. He put on Marcus Peter Heaters. Dams I mean you wouldn't have seen that anytime before I don't think Everson. Try to chase anybody down to tackle. And that's what they say about our offense. We got the best tackling offensively. You don't WanNa have that but. We got it, but it was apparent that coaching made a lot of difference last year for non. Yes and he just seemed to have a better. You know he he was. He hustled on the field more and this year. He's definitely GonNa Hustle I mean I didn't I didn't I was not a big fan of his contract was not a big fan of him getting that kind of money. Very, outspoken I would not have been upset if we would've. Cutting to be honest with you, but he stepped up and impress me I. Don't have any doubts whatsoever that he's going to play top level this year. All of them are and I'm not worried about anybody on our offensive line. Okay, the second question I to talk about is the right side of that line. Because, of course we've got tristen and worse. Who is a rookie that right side of that line with dots? Last year he had some injuries. We had other guys in there. It seemed like kind of a weakness over there, so talk about what you expect from the right side of the line. I'm not worried about or right guard. He has the attitude you want from an offense. Is probably one of my favorite on the line. He's very. Jensen's probably number one cameras number two just from planter that broken arm not even make it a big deal about it i. had. No idea any had surgery and was back on the field on the arm like two weeks later. Incredible you gotTa love that and you know. He's a new guy. The rough edges a little bit, but you know he's going to get better as years go along, but it's his attitude that makes it all worthwhile to. See Him out there hitting people, you know. He's looking for people to hit him and Jensen early similar to me and play style. Jensen is a little moutier I. Think cap is, but they're both pretty aggressive like. I think yes I think they've the CAP has learned a lot from James. Yeah they they do. They're both very similar in their play Styles Trista were I? Don't know a thing about who I don't know, but I do trust that the The front office and the coaches can coach him up and I think they picked a good guy. I mean everybody talks about. He's going to be a premier offensive Lineman, so you know I've got confidence in them. I doubt very seriously if he's going to go out there and just. Lay eggs all season long. Yeah, I think we might see a little bit of adjustment I mean in the past years we've watched rookies come in, and there has been a period of them sucking, and then turning it around, so vida in particular comes to mind the guys in the seven worry, Devon white exactly so if there's kind of that little adjustment period I think we should give him some leeway there, but. I can see him. You know having a hard time at first and then kind of coming into his own, and especially with offensive lineman coach Gilbert. Last year in one of his press conferences, is that college offensive linemen are basically just like bodies in the way like they don't do complex blocking schemes and that kind of stuff, so you have to spend more time developing these offense of Liming coming out of college. Plus he's on the right side of Tom Brady Tom. Brady is going to be facing. Tom Brady will be able to see if he misses a block in. If the guys coming at them, that's what the right tackle position is not as important as the left tackle. Because of the guy gets passed a left tackle real quick quarterback. Anglesey it and get clobbered, so is it the opposite for a left handed? The very few left-hand quarterbacks in the League yeah, It's also very strange because receivers have a hard time. Catching lefthanded quarterback passes because the ball spins. It's GonNa. Ask You if that was the reason. We! Michael Vick was left handed. And I, WANNA say Jeff Garcia wasn't. He left handed camera. We have. We have one quarterback who was left Anna. I do believe. So. Yeah, just takes is different. Getting used to, and if you have a crappy left tackle, but a good right tackled and you. WanNa left a quarterback. So yeah, I'm not worried about our offensive line at all I do WanNa, see are running backs. Get better at blocking They were subpar last year and are tight ends garage Hausky. Very good at blocking, he's he's going to be our best blocking tight end. If we using the roll, which I'm sure, we will then right behind a hill would be clare as far as blocking concern. He's always good for a few holding penalties though. But none of them. None of our current tight ends are really good blockers for great blockers yeah. I think that's why the addition of Gronk was really important, because he's a phenomenal Walker, so I hope that helps rub off on the rest of the guys. Yeah, it's one of the issues know. We played about this on the podcast. Quite a bit about how football is gotten kind of distorted through things like fantasy football in madden. Where you're, you're looking at numbers all the time and we look at tight ends in specially people play fantasy football, and you go. This is a good title in your garage is a good tight end because he's got eight touchdowns year, twelve touched their. Whatever yet will. Will you know football's all about blocking and tackling and tight ends and running backs, especially fifty percent of their job, if not more, if it exists is blocking, and you can't block. You're not a good tight end as it would be. Like being a good blocking tight end, it can't catch the ball or can't run route, so you know are tight ends needs to step up, so do I running backs. They'll know about the new guy on I. Don't know if he's going to be a good blocker runs. We have another one ca lay right, isn't he? Running back, think we got ta as in the late around well, all three of our running backs last year just had. Quite a few games where they whiffed badly block star I did row did Peyton did and it's not. It's not complex blocking schemes. They were basically doing the exact same thing. Every other team running-backs John. You got back there. They looked if anybody's coming through the line. And then they go down Africa down passive. The what is coming through and Did it just seem like they didn't grasp the scheme, or was it lack of effort I wouldn't say it was lack of effort. It was just making mistakes that I don't think that they've been a whole lot of. Blocking practice. It appeared like you know they'd be catched. They'd be caught off guard, or they wouldn't. Plant their feet ride or wouldn't get low enough so. It just seemed like it wasn't. It wasn't a priority for them. Let's put it that way with the coaching staff. I wonder. Maybe, something like. Maybe they didn't do a lot of reps in practice. That just bizarre. Well in practice. It's totally different because you've got you know the defensive. Lineman in the office of Lyman will every now and then you hit each other block, but they're not going full bore. They're not trying to really do it so. Running backs don't get that in the offseason. Able to really block somebody, take a real hit, yes. So yeah, not worried about our offensive line and all and I'm here to say it that we will be at minimum a top ten off line, most likely a top-five bone prediction. Dixie God. I think I actually have a running list of our predictions for the OH. What are we go I? Don't have it with. You something open over. There will write that down right down MMA. I'll write down. We'll cover our predictions next podcast. Okay all right well. We got this podcast out of the way. Hopefully we'll check this out. Make sure the audio is good enough to put it up and Y'all. We'll be hearing this. Don't have anything coming up to talk about or announced, but if you didn't want to get in touch with us, the best way is through twitter or go to the website bucket ears observed dot com, and there's plenty of different ways to contact as their through email, or when we're pretty much on every platform, or at least the big ones. I don't know we don't do instagram snapchat still thing I. Don't know we don't do that either. We're not on TIKTOK. You're not GonNa do the Tick Tock. Sorry, what was the? What was the platform before? TIKTOK SEP was vine fine, yeah. I love that one load vines. I Love Vine Video I. Just like a youtube channel. And I feel old. You know this is why I can't do the new technologies. I say that really like it's just too much, but really what I mean is too much for my tiny brain to handle like I just can't can't get compensated to. It's like your grandma trying to show you how to use AOL. Well. That's going to wrap it up for US till. Next time bugs.

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[033] Know Your Enemy free agency edition: Atlanta Falcons

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[033] Know Your Enemy free agency edition: Atlanta Falcons

"Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcasts as row Phillips and Molly day and today, we're gonna start the first of our no, your enemies, serious free agency edition and today. We're going to talk about the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah. They're like, the least I hate them. The least of the. Yeah. Claim your right mediate the most. Oh, I don't know. That's a tough one Carolina. Probably. Yeah. I'd probably have to go CAD. Cam Newton just the pretty white teeth. He'll get knocked out. So bad. Can't stand New Orleans coach Sean page on pay. Yeah. I can't stand who sell whiny. You know, what did it for me? When he Josh Freeman dash bring then to ask for in Manhattan is like finger route and interview or something giving a press conference, and Sean Payton, we were playing them that week in office. He was like, hey, yeah. He wind to the league that Josh Freeman wasn't on the injury report. No, just some whiny. It's just so whiny all the saints and saints fans are all whining. Yeah. Fair enough. So Atlanta's head coach, Dan Quinn. They didn't do great last year. They went seven to nine didn't make the playoffs. So I think he probably felt the heat to make some changes, coaching wise. Otherwise, it was probably going to be him that got fired. So the biggest one, of course is cut are being hired. As offense coordinator back to his his old job wonder if we'll get Mike Smith is defensive coordinator. Now Dan Quinn fired the defensive coordinator, coordinator, Marquand manual and Dan Quinn. He no, he's a defensive guy. He came from Seattle. He coached their defense Alesina, boom. I think I think is that. Right. Okay. I know he came from Seattle. But I don't want to give him credit for the legion. Booms and doesn't. But so Dan Quayle is gonna take over the defence now though he's going to be the defensive coordinator. Yeah. He's not gonna have a defensive coordinator. Now. He's thinking all. Yeah. That's good for us. Right. So they running cutter he was offensive coordinator under head coach Mike Smith at Smith is well I received running backs coach or special assistant office coordinator, and you know, cut our he is familiar with Matt Ryan he's got Julio Jones bound lit up with gutter was there. Yeah. So and they have that familiar to you. So we'll see what happens and it remains to be seen whether cutter will still be bucks fan. We'll have to doping all this stuff at the thrift store. I don't think he's I don't think he was serious about it. Mike malarkey was hired as the titans coach and this. He was. Yeah. His he's to be the titans headcount. Yeah. And this is actually his second sent with Liana. He was their offense coordinator from two thousand eight to two thousand eleven and he actually started his career in Tampa Bay in nineteen ninety four you know that. Did you know that? Oh, I don't know what he was. He was ask hard questions. I need to look at my notes before and ask my questions. So that I can amount smart. And I'm like a true reporter, man, I s a hard hitting questions. I try to stop I should act like a pundit and bullshit my way through. It's the question. You woman. And then Keith Armstrong who cut are brought in as special teams coordinator, he was fired. And they brought in Ben cotton Wicca as special teams coordinator, he came from Washington. Now, he wasn't fired he elected to leave. He got the Atlanta job and left. So I don't know what the deal is there with their special teams. Can you think of anything of now like why they felt the need to replace her special needs special needs? Especially bush. Whole team. I shall teams coordinator were there special teams that bad don't recall. I don't remember when they had Matt Ryan now head met that brings up a question. Let's talk about Matt Ryan, which is on that subject. We know. Keith Goodwin is now or special teams coordinator, right Keith arms. Sean. He's Armstrong Goodwin's are of Lyman trying to gain rigging cow given here all given here. Okay. We got the we got the there's a lot of names there. Hey, we got a lot to catch up on. And remember. Okay. So this guy Keith Armstrong. All right. So Keith Armstong comes to Tampa from Atlanta. He was there special teams coordinator. Now he's God for like ten years. He was there. All Tom ever. I was there. Yeah. So he comes to Tampa. And all of a sudden Matt Bryant gets released by Atlanta. He hasn't officially been released. But they let him know that when when it's time, they're gutting. So he's going to be released. What do you think are we going to get him? And it seems to be aligned the stars land up. Well, we we hired that. Danish kicker. We already signed that's just to do tryouts during the preseason. And all that good stuff and get in get competition in there the big deal. We do it every year while I was bringing in kickers. Maybe that's our problem. I think you can make an argument either way, I think, ma'am, Brian. He's Bryant he's forty four years old. He missed him games last season because of an injury. I don't know. I mean, he's definitely on the tail end of his career. If I was any team in the league. I would wanna pick mitt Ryan up. This is where the buccaneers and we fired him. And it wasn't on good terms. He left pretty bad as well. When we got a new Nugent. Right. We was. Yeah. Heat it. Okay. But it was during the preseason. Remember they were going to let Bryant kick and had nudie kit with Nugent was doing good and Bryant gave an interview somewhere. And he was like, I don't understand why even in the competition two why why they're making me compete, basically. And then they didn't let him kick. And then they got rid of him. Yeah. It was not a clean cut. And that my friends is why don't want brought back. I just I'm not a big. Fan of cutting people on bad terms, or basically, cutting people in then bringing them back years later, or whatever. Because even even if they say, hey, I'll hold on hold grudges subconsciously. They hold a grudge. You know, they remembered they remember getting fired half to move out of town. I mean, his family loves Tampa. He's got people. Here's wife loves it. They got a house in Tampa. And all that good stuff. They've been. So so consciously, you know, he might be like ask who the buccaneers? And I don't let that when he's out there kicking, you know, so consciously because I mean kickers that the big deal any little route. I mean, look at Taylor in canton zero like once it got in his head that he was going to miss it. He hit or Glasgow. Yeah. I look at lovey Smith made lovey Smith. Is the perfect example when they hired him. I was like, no, what are you doing? And I don't know what the deal was with him. But to me if you look at it, objectively he came in. And he destroyed this team you he'd immediately got rid of all our whole offense of line. Who does that? I a head coach come in and get rid of our offense of land. It's not like we had a ban off his line either had one down here. But I mean, they were good players. Anyhow, he comes in blows up a whole offensive line, and we've been dealing with that ever since. And you know, he brought in all these free agents. He bad nepotism going. I mean, he hit his son as a secondary coach, it don't know infiltrators whatsoever. So I'm just not a big fan of bringing players. Once you mean, anyhow, I think we should just move on. And not bride is a great kicker Greg guide and everything I think he's still got some left any, but I don't I don't want to take a chance with it fair present because we're gonna have to pay them. Yeah. I mean, that's Atlanta's point was that they gotta pay him three million dollars. Right. He's gonna get his money and be like, I don't care. Yeah. Maybe so I don't know. I'm just not a big fan of hiring players that you cut before. Interesting point, not true. Try to have interesting points every now and then so aside from their shakeup at special teams the fire defensive coordinator, we talked about that they also fired their defensive assistant and defensive backs coach Charlie Jackson, and they also fired. Todd neil. Oh, this one was weird. So he's football research and development front office guys numbers guy, clipboard older. Yeah. Which is funny because cutter, and that's what we always said. He is he was the advanced statistics guy in Seattle years ago. And Dan Quinn. The season was criticized for ignoring game in a Lennox. So they fire their spouts guy. Do you do we have a gay man, Louis guy? I know we did at one point. A perusal of the website tells me we do have aid director of analytics seem as Tyler overly a new. We had some big analytics stuff going on here for a while. We also have that VR crap that J James Winstons been doing one few teams in the league. There's been doing that don't know how much it's open right because he still can't he's. Viana? How they got rid of their governor their football, research and development guy. Just in all the stats out the window. Screw go play football. Yeah. I kind of screams of desperation to me. Dan quinn. How much shaken up his staff? I wonder how much longer he's got if they don't do. Well next season. When shock me if he got caned will it's it's strange day because Mike Smith he was defensive guy. Dan, Quinn was defensive guy. And when Mike Smith was their defense was pretty good at tackling. I really liked the way they tackled but other than that they were that special and with Dan Quinn. They haven't been that special their defense last season was like as bad as ours was pretty much mirror images of each other. So it's like it's like with the when you got Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and their running game in you could put any any head coach in there, and they're going to do good. He's got like Mike McCarthy with Green Bay. I don't even know if the guy ever said anything or did anything you just stood there. He was like he could have been a cardboard cutout. And you know, they they've gone the route with defensive coaches, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. But yeah, I think you're right. I mean, they they just not did not do well last year nothing. Dan, Quinn is in panic mode extinction burst. Yeah. Was they're still near football. Hang or they're Super Bowl hangover to that is true. Absolutely. Losing when you're up twenty eight to three was last year the first year after the Super Bowl for them. Or was it dear before it was the year before last year when the eagles beat the I want to say, yeah. The year after they gutter but looked in the Super Bowl. They did pretty good. I think they went back to the playoffs. Then I remember, maybe all blurred together. So free agency. They've got twenty one players total. We had twenty five. Yeah. So they've got night on offense. Eleven on defense in one on special teams end. They've got a several starters that are up for free agency. So we'll go through one by one. And then I wanna talk about who on the buccaneers squad that darkens fans are actually eyeballing because there was a pretty good article. I read about that burst up for free agency. We've got their guard. Andy Levin trae, he's the starting left guard. He was placed on I r in September for a torn triceps. He is thirty three years old and made seven point eight million last season. He's an unrestricted free agent. So well, you know, I feel like the last few years they've had issues with their offensive line. I feel like they're always injured marian's always getting murdered out there. And he's not the only one we got guard the starting right guard. Ben garland is up for a free agency to. They're back up. Oh, this one's given. Matt Shaab you remember Matt job. He's still playing these still play code. He's Matt Ryan's backup. So he's up for free agency. They'll be in the market for Matt Ryan, every can you recall getting hurt? Now didn't even need. Did. He have any injury one time. I don't remember. It just seems like he never gets her. How is he a robot? He acts like many a I. Okay. So next we've got defensive end Eric Shelby second-stringer, but he was placed on I r last he's in in November for a groin injury made two million last season. So then we got cornerback Justin Bethel. He's a backup. I feel like I know all these names though, because we play them twice a year. He's me. Even under backups. No. By even though their backups. We'd see you know, like, Justin Bethel. I recognize that name in any case he made one point seven five million last season. He's aged twenty nine that can't be as rookie contract unit. No, okay. And then we've got defensive tackle, Terrell McClain. He played behind Grady Jarrett. He's his backup. So he was actually a starter at the beginning of the season. And then yeah was benched. So he's been in the league. He's thirty one. He's been the leaks since two thousand eleven so next week got defensive end Bruce urban he was only signed in November and was third string. I think they needed some depth facts air in their defensive line because they got injured. Oh there long, snapper. Jon condo. There. Other long, snapper. John Harris was placed on IRR December four like what is their long snapper Newin that they're getting injured? Now, we're this a weird one. So anyway, they signed John condal which that sounds like a ruthless character. Yeah. So John Connell up for free agency next. Their tight end Logan Paulson. He's thirty two. He was a starter. Also at the beginning of the season. And then he moved down the depth chart in favor of Austin Hooper Mex is strong safety Kamal Ishmail. He's a second-string twenty years old next is left tackle ties some Briley. Oh, is that how you say it? He's the backup to Jake Matthews. D do you recognize him? I feel like the name what he big at replacement. Donovan smith. No, we'll just I don't know. Not an upgrade. I just remember seeing seeing him get whooped up and down the field by feta. So I remember your the name because I remember you bring it up in the podcast before I think, and that's usually not a good thing. When you hear the office online those name strong, safety, Jordan Richards. He's a starter. He's up for contract looks like it's the end of his rookie contract. Inside linebacker. Bruce carter. He's a backup guard Zane Beatles to recognize the same. Okay. He's a backup. Boba believe we hear Wilson. Thank you quarterback bleed. Even Ray Wilson third-string cornerback bleeding bleeding bleeding, b l I d I next is. Okay. This one's a good one starter will not really start Kevin Coleman. He's up for free agency. He started after devante Freeman was injured Freeman was put on. I r he's starting guy. Now, they just pay. Devante freeman. They just paid him got him a forty million dollar contract. When did they last year? They signed him in two thousand seventeen Freeman said that right after. He gets hurt. And it's really up in the air. Whether they're gonna resign heaven Coleman because Colman's gonna get, you know, at least, a thirty million dollar contract will the before the film is paid two running backs to huge contracts. Right. Who knows if they learn their lesson or now, I don't have. But what do you do? Do you think they anything? They let him walk. Probably. I mean, if he's gonna want thirty million. Yeah. You just can't can't see them doing that again where they've got. I mean, they're having to pay Matt Ryan what twenty three million dollars? Julio Jones is getting good Lord Jones, get thirteen and a half million true flops getting fourteen million. They're gonna pay. Devante Freeman getting on the seven million. You think they're gonna pay Tevin Coleman six million five million. Yeah. They just don't have it is that I I don't know they a bunch of dummies. They might do it. I think they have too many other needs. If you already got one good running back. Well, he got injured last year and the ad golden stepped up so true enough. But I think he's replaceable. Like, you could get a serviceable running back for three million and not have John. No, let's have been doing it for you. Running-backs everywhere as serviceable backup running out. How about that? There. We go. Next. We got defensive end Stephen me's, former buck. Twenty nine years old. He's unrestricted free agent. He's a backup they got wide receiver. Justin hardy Nonni backup on a lot of these guys. Play the rotational players. I played quite bit. Stephen means playbook quite a bit. Well, they're not first on the depth chart. That's what I mean. So they're not a starter listeners wanting to say just because he's got does it get back up. So me, they didn't play good caller, not backup defensive tackle Grady Jarrett. He's up for contract is the last year was rookie contract. I would go if we could. But I know they're going to sign. Yeah. He is is good. That's why they can't spend money on Tim and Coleman resign Grady Jarrett safety Bryant poll, he's second-string. And then wide receiver more of an hall third-string. So that's the end of their free agent list. We've got to bed for the free agency rain bird Grady jerk in couple linemen Coleman their offense. They're not hurting as far as their first stringers are going, right? We're we're not doing well for stringer was pledges. So there was an article I read speculating about what players cutter might bring over. You know is going to be Ryan Fitzpatrick and jockeys Rogers, those two almost guaranteed go to Elaine. Yeah. Anybody would take what's her third string quarterback name again? Ryan Griffin Ron Griffin. They might even get hill because they cut. I don't know what he saw. I never saw the gallon field. Right. What's his he ever thrown? An NFL pairs in a regular season game now. No, I don't think. So. So maybe that'd be good for that guy. You always feel bad for those guys kinda like Mike Lennon where they kind of their their one coaches guy. And then that coach gets fired forget the chance to develop other brings. Huge opportunity when he with the Chicago. Boy, did he stick there. He was a horrible quarterback game manager. I guess, but he just had no no own foot. So ever even horrible. I would say thing he got sick so much because he would he would take a sack before. He would he doesn't really conservative. She's considering please like Southern Baptists quarterback conservative was. Our there. I all in Adam Humphreys, get your filthy hands. All right. Keep your filthy. Then birds don't even have any get your filthy wings off. Or Adam Humphreys, dirty dirty Atlanta Falcons, Danny bad's third. I'm going to be so upset if he doesn't get resigned. I'll tell you what if he gets on somebody in our division. I'm gonna be furious. Yeah. Falcons. Can you actually actually would be worse if he went to New Orleans order Carolina? He would he would chew it up. It a Carolina. Yeah. That's what I was thinking to that. Would be worse case. Would you imagine Hillman McCaffrey fairly his name size to say, why style? He's so mad. Bernard. Really, this one's we're. So we didn't really keep him. But doesn't know the Falco hallock noted that the cutter in the buccaneers really liked him. They kept bringing him back on the practice squad signing letting him go re-signing them. So maybe a possibility for they got some third string wide receivers that are up for free agencies that may be to replace them. They might be an option. He mentioned Luke Stocker ruin. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead, bro. Another team who's he with like the jets? I think I know he's not on the plug now. Now, I think he's with Tennessee titans. Same thing like the jokes. Yeah. They're lengthened. Falco Hollick said Leonard Wester brought him up. He's he is the backup. Right. Tackle for Johnson. Keeping a dirty filthy wings rain for littered western for free agent. I think so you just did this the free. Remember, we're like the worst meal booking your. In your last one. And this is actually a Washington guy is linebacker Zach vigil. He was a notable special teams player, but they're new special teams coordinator came from Washington. So this is one of his guys that maybe they went through trying to shore or special teams. Yeah. Kind of looks that way. And so they're drafting at number fourteen Atlanta's they went seven nine this season that this point with all the trades and stuff for the drafting of teams get shuffled all turn at this point. They're number fourteen. So they are looking to shore up the trenches offensive and defensive line, particularly at the defensive tackle position. Even though Grady Jarrett is he's a free agent. And they're probably gonna resign him. He's still needs a defensive tackle beside him. There's also talk that Vic Beasley has been underwhelming. So maybe they consider a defensive end, but in general consensus is they're going after defensive line road. Yes. So Atlanta's cap salary cap situation is actually pretty decent. They've got about twenty eight million in free cap space more than us. Yeah. Gosh, I hate this being cap strapped. I know this is the first time in a decade that we've had to worry about cap space. Delighted when we're gonna have to cut good players. Yeah. Probably watched them go on other teams that probably win the Super Bowl yet. What they get lipstick. Matt Ryan like I said he's making twenty three million Julio Jones a course fourteen million fifteen half-million Vic Beazley's up there at thirteen million. He's making his much Julio Jones. That's crazy. That is crazy. So I can understand them being a little underwhelmed by him when he pay on that much money. But I don't know how he's been performing. But will doing okay, I'll tell you what when they played against us, the mar- Datsun through Beasley around like he was the second potato he'd say so small. Yeah. I mean, he's he's kind linebacker Cise. So do they play three or four? Okay. Cake play a kind of same. They were going to be doing right. We flipping it around. But did they got Greg Jarrett defensive tackle? He. About far the best player on defense. I got really underrated. He's good. Yeah. Then market value for him is gonna be about fifteen million which paid that much for him pay McCoy thirteen which pay grain Jarrett fifteen that's a tough one. Yeah. Probably not now. No. I'm telling you we could put. In general, which you pay not just the buccaneers. Oh, oh, no for you. I mean, if you if you needed the defensive tackle yet. That's that's pretty decent price. I guess I guess I don't know, man. I mean, how much is how much is air Donald kitten. He's topped here. He's a top of the line until Vida dethrones him. It's coming. It's common. Yes. Iran. Donald is. He's making seventeen million this year. Good lord. That's how okay. So if you're going to say that and you Greg Jarrett was going to be around fifteen. I don't know even still he's not air Donald level. Okay. So then next year. Okay. Fair enough next season air Donald makes twenty five million. Holy crap. Are you serious enough to that? It's twenty eight million in that. That's like quarterback money. Well, I mean during MacOS may has made more money than any quarterback. We've had since he's been here. And because we don't keep them. We definitely don't recital. Well, I don't know how much the Josh Freeman Meglena. Yeah. Yeah. Me josh. Josh Freeman was only making a million any went to six and a half million in two thousand twelve and you know, he wasn't making anything. So Jeremiah was making all the money when our two tomorrow, I think Vince Jackson was up there with Jeremy McCoy. Yeah. Probably Revaz after that. Yeah. Yeah. But McCoy's always been the the top moneymaker on our team. So, you know, Greg Jarrett. I couldn't see painting fifteen million. I could see tan, but fifteen little steep and in funny how we get like this about other people's money. Many. It's it's how it is. When you are having cat problems. That's when you start worrying about before that. I was always just like. Yeah. Pay up whenever they want. I don't care. We got we got the money. So I heard people talking about cutting, Brian anger. Why money it plus he didn't do that? Well as year, I mean and do bad. Okay. All right. Have we learned nothing from the kicker situation keep Brian anger, even if you have to pay money. Well, he's not gonna work for rocks. I would pay him an extra million dollars or whatever. He just I mean, he was fantastic. But of course, we had good special teams guys too. That were helping out and last year we were kind of we got rid of all of them. Well, it's he's not bad. He's not terrible. No. I mean, he he's been great. I think he's been great. But you know, worst case he's been a little bit above average. Word a little bit above average, really get rid of him. That's what people are talking about. That'll nice doesn't make any sense. When people talk about getting rid of the kicker Matt Ryan, I was like he was great and we're like asking right on 'cause he getting older he missed field goal. Or what you know? Now. You know, you got somebody special special teams at least do an average just keep them. Right. What about came and break his name got popped up. Oh, see that's a tough one on the one hand, you're like, well, we got OJ. So you don't really need bright. You can get rid of break. But OJ has had injury problems last two years. He's gone into reserve and brain apparently this hip injury. But good now he played through that he played for. So I think when you're in pain like that it really does affect you. Yes. So we know this experience we down we play football it word paying. We're just not able to get as many touchdowns normal. Yeah. That's that's a tough one for me. He's making more than OJ Howard. Is. Yeah. Came a break. He's up in like six million. Yeah. OJ Howard's making these on his rookie contract. Okay. Well, that's the that's the nature of the bees. Yeah. But why pay camera break that much money? I don't know. That's a that's a tough one. I like Harry brain did you know, he went to Harvard play basketball. The it's just so hard. You have a player that maybe mediocre maybe with original. Yeah. Winston has chemistry in the red zone. Right. I mean, maybe he's mediocre maybe a little above average. But you get rid of him. And then what do you get? I mean. We've gone through. We had Alan cross we had Luke stop. I mean, there's a whole long list tight ends that just aren't doing bore me. A don't recall for the game food. Just doesn't look like areas us tight ends nothing. Like cut did interesting. So I I'm worried AJ might not even get the amount of balls. He did last year. I don't know it might be just because they didn't have the town tied in like OJ. Maybe so. Ahrends supposedly, you know, big about devising his plan system around players talents. And if he does that he's going to be used tight ends lot. Because we have talented tight ends. Yeah. Don't know. We'll see if that cap space money at six million, or what is it that seventy now he took him to make a seven million dollars could go to some much needed area. We tight end situation is not bad. I don't know. That's a tough one. Do we really need to good tight ends? Well, yeah. When you're starting titan is injured all the time. That's a tough one though. How about this Freemont is out of play Brown? Signed him today. When your contract they must have had to to priority or something. I don't know how they got got. You know, everybody every team in the league was trying to go after Kareem hunt. That's a surprise to me that the Browns went after him. I know they got chill there. I didn't go. They got a already a good stable running backs. But you know, he's going gonna be suspended for the first six seventy eight said, then, you know, you're not in a bind when he's suspending. Because you've already got a good running back not to shame. I was kinda hoping we jump on that bandwagon really even with Peyton barber. We've got Peyton. Yeah. I paint Barbara. I think he's going to do well, especially we chore bar offense ladder earliest get those guys playing right? But you know, you you can't ever go wrong with the skilled running back back there like Kareem hunt. Did they have to pick up his contract? I wonder not know there hasn't been any details given out other than they just signed him to when your contract. So apparently. No, okay. You know, they can sit cutting me probably got him for a good price too. I don't know, man. I think I think he was gonna go station with a lot of teams. So they probably they probably paid. It's going to be just see what they've they're paying. I think that's going to tell everything. I mean, if they're popping off, you know, ten million to him, and you know, that there was a lot of teams, and they were just a highest bidder. Did you you didn't watch it? But did you the af league af league now, but I saw a lot amounts to doesn't Clinton. Some good hit. Yeah. It's like, faster paced. I didn't watch it. You know, it's a series one and watch college football gist is too much. It takes up to Tom me watching NFL just don't have time to what she thing L. Right. But I know I might dabble in this a little bit. See what what is it like eight teams in this league? Yeah. And then we got the XFL league coming up. So it's gonna be a full year of football. Now. I don't know if I can handle it. I'm used to hibernate in from February to September. Nope. Up your energy to again, Joe Bloggs fan headed an interesting podcast the other night, and one of the things I took away from it was admitted they talked quite a depth about a kind of bragging about how the owners, and the coaches and everything read their articles and talk to them about it is that they won't tell anybody, especially the coaches, you know, they'll be like add and read it, and whatever, but they will actually call they'll and got a bitch them out or discuss things that they've written. Now, we know appear to report Scott Smith, the Scott Reynolds, he's had players calling before I know that you know, in chew him out for articles the one they got his personal cell phone number. But I just find it interesting because because to me that big gives a different take on the whole meeting. Could you imagine working down there? You've got you have to worry about your access because I pulled your access at anytime, you know, that, you know, getting into the press passes not stuff, and then, you know, the reading your stuff, and they're listening to your podcast. And then, you know, could you imagine how hard it would be to to say negative stuff about them. Right. You know? And you can't I've noticed this a lot, especially with the entrenched guys down there Ville talk about things, and they'll they'll ask you chose that cannot talk about this. Should I talk about this? What are they know a lot more than they tell us is what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, and I don't like that. Now, Joe bucks fan to their credit. They actually they're pretty negative. Yeah. This is true. They talk a lot shit. I think yeah, they do especially when it's time for a coach to get fired. You'll see Joe box van Impe report. What you're saying? I the that. Is usually I think they're the ones that started Peter or gain Andro bucks fan. I think they both. We don't want to teach over there. There was some I wanna say lawsuits whenever because Peter ports got the forum. And they were they kept posting Joe books articles in the forum in a full length. Word for word articles have users redoing it and Joe bucks got his and they sent pew report a season desist letter. Oh my God. I don't know. How far went all this. But I think that that they're not real friendly with each other. I don't think but it just makes me go. There's stuff they know like the two thousand eleven book. And here's what happened there the Noah, Spence. We know. They know what happened. They just don't want to tell us that stuff like with Sean Jackson. Rick Stroud talked about something a year after it happened. And I'm like, why don't you tell us when it happened? Now, why why save it until you're trying to get rid of him right now. It's just to me. That's just no, it's it's a weird reporting. Just don't like it. Well, then it don't get me wrong. I like Joe book saying like report, I like all these guys. But I I just really wish that sports reporting was different and better and more festive like cramp their fans. They're not reporters. Will let's not true Joe books. They have reported background. They're both from I. Yeah. They both started off the Tampa Bay times the Tribune. Oh, yeah. Well, seem on them. Not journalism. Well, you know, they're doing good doing a good service for the fans to so I just really wish that we had some good investigative reporters. Got. Mason like they just quote people. Then they give a lot of opinion on what these people are saying. Yeah, what will do is? They'll get a quote from coach, you know, and in the no like build a whole article around in what they think the coach, man. Yeah. You know? And it's just like, I don't I don't like we know when you quote is kinda like it'd be kinda like if reporters though, the Washington Post economic times all they did was listen to Sarah Sanders at the podium, and it just quoted her, you know, that's all they ever. Did. They didn't do investigative journalism. Get down dirty and find right the stuff that nobody's talking about. If they wanna keep him. You know? So I don't know. I'd like to see more of that. And I don't feel like the reporters in Tampa. They don't take any risks with what they're writing. Yeah. Yeah. They're not breaking any stories. They're not Rijo box broke the areas getting hired they call dente week before. But everybody kind of knew it was happening. They just happen to have a source that conferment. They're not they're not putting their career at risk or their credentials at risks to do anything. There's no nobody's going to biscuit. Yeah. It's it's that's why it's kind of almost parasitic that. You know, because they have to kind of do they can't go against the Dorgan ization because organization will pull access you know, in that. And they really depend on access because that's how they get you know, player will relax room quotes. And and, you know, get to note general manager is not good stuff as to access, and I understand their point of view. It's just I would like to see more of a down dirty get greedy, you know, find out about inner working stuff and share it in a not a National Enquirer style. But a kind of like a TMC style. You know, we went to. I wanna know what's up with no expense is basically what I'm kidding. What was this situation there? All right award sap said that he was invited to TA's by the coaching staff of the buccaneers. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Bruce Arians have said he wants to bring in ex players, you know, and have them come in for practices and stuff, which is awesome. I think that's. Beccles there. Oh, I see Beccles in German Koi fight. That's awesome. Mcqueen picking Michael. Beccles is old right? He played back in early nineties eighties nineties. So anyhow, I think that's anything that was on the fanatics view dot com did an interview with Warren Sapp, and he was talking about. So what is he gonna do TA just go out there and act like a born Sam? I follow him on Instagram like all he does fish. Okay. So it was hashtags on our sap, fishing and sap, not fishing. So those are the only two things he's got fishing is fishing and not fishing hip surgery. Dead during Harris, tag, no fishing, Sapna, not fishing fishing. Yeah. He'll probably go. And we'll just give speeches and all that good stuff. And I think that's cool. I like that with areas I remember in Xiang. Oh and Shanas period. They went let anybody in matter of fact, one guy got kicked off. I can't remember what I think it was Dexter Jackson the Super Bowl MVP came in for something to a practice. And they were like, no it out, you know, made big stink about it. But that was during that period when everybody was trying to run shadow out of town. So he could've done anything, right? Interesting. I wonder I wonder who else will get their books. You know, he's he's gonna be there. Vinton Jackson will be there. He's still on Tampa Jesuit show girls. You know, he's he's me works at front office as beg. He he was lamb Becker Beckwith Sam. Okay. John Lynch, Tacoma. You know, he can't because he's he's Geel before. Yeah. That's it. Comey me be like, okay. Here's what you do guys just lay down, especially when you play in the forty Niners ground don't take this game series. Made. You're gonna hurt yourself. We might. Their division are we planning? Now, we don't play the west, but you play the bottom whoever the two divisions that way. Yeah, he played the same team in the same position. You were fully got to list of people were playing team still apply. If look at that real quick, so yeah, we do play San Francisco, and we play the why we play the west as your other. There's not the powerhouse. They were division last time we played in which I think was during Jonah's thing to thirteen. I think. Did they were more settled division was monsters that was an areas is there I now. So that'll be fun him getting a play against his own division. Oh, man. That's excellent. Yeah. And that'll be cool. Get storyline to oh. You know, the NFL's going around with that the Bill all week air is plain as there's corridas. So I think we talked about the buccaneers and everybody else as much as we did Eliana. Well, and I'll tell you who will see your podcast all about the Atlanta Falcons. Nobody a falcons fans don't even want to hear a podcast about the falcon stop. We have to do this. No your enemy. We're learning. Our enemy Ralph that. No yourself and know your enemy, and you will win every battle is that how he said it to you probably should it in Chinese. All right. Well, let's going to wrap it up the next who we're going to do next for their free the enemy Carolina, neck Carolina next the Panthers Cam Newton mister smiley. I think he's going to be not the same Cam Newton anymore with his surgery. Second land second surgery. Yeah. They're really killing him over there. Yeah. He runs away too much. Yeah. But they can't defend on glowing. Right. So what do you do run off? Yeah. That's we got a quarterback at hand the ball, real good. All right. So tune in for next time. We're going to have the know your enemy Carolina Panthers mile is going to do research on that. And I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it with the rest of you anything else. Now. That's it. All right, guys. We will continue to bring you the buck news breaks. We'll probably jump on here and give you the shadow for that. Until then guy backs.

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[084] Meet the Glazers

Buccaneers Observer

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[084] Meet the Glazers

"Every year in the NFL. It's a new team. As far as goals. Go. We have one. Putting a finger. Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcasts arou- Phillips. Molly bay today's June thirty two thousand nineteen seventy eight used to kick off. But as Molly informed me. We'll have this up tomorrow Monday. So that'll be sixty nine days to kick off a big sixty nine six nine. This is what we're reduced to. Offseason so much fun like Beavis and Butthead over. Twelve. Got a follow up. No fact checks this one, I think was a couple of podcast ago. I'm not really sure I got my notes mixed up. But anyhow, we talked about Louis miss offense coordinator that didn't show up. I think it was two thousand fourteen that was Jeff Tedford. He coached in the first three preseason games in any handsome, health issues. He actually had a some heart problems, which required him to get a stint in his heart or something of that nature. And he ended up missing just about the whole season. He wanted to come back with five games left in the season. But the buccaneers organization were like we can't commit to you next year. And it just be mess up of our continuity. If we do you back in, so they released him and he went on to do other things didn't the quarterbacks coach takeover was Jacob can something like that, while we're going to. I find this to be incomplete. Ralph. We had another fact, check slash follow up, but we couldn't remember what? We were drunk. So if any of y'all can remember or find a mistake, we made in a podcast, let us know we've actually had quite a few people emails and comment saying that they want to hear my rant on time was Basinger that we cut out of the podcast last week. Don't know I'm going to have to really think about that one, because it was kind of fears, I told you Ralph when he decides to start an argument, it's basically ended right there. They used to just give up as soon as he starts in now I'm going to win. I like to sometimes I will argue just for the sake of arguing. And I'm what they call a contrarian always liked to take the opposite side of people. I have gotten an argument with people when I know that I'm totally completely wrong just to argue with them. Why you didn't go into law. I don't understand too much of the learning. The severe chronic originalism, that would drive. You can't stand paperwork. Just shoot me in the face like tell Molly all the time if I ever start worrying about my lawn or start playing golf just go ahead and shoot me because I feel like my life is over my life would be over at that point. Don't get me wrong golf is very fun sport. And it's highly addicting to plant. Yes, but watching it on TV. No, no baseball basketball low play. Nobody I can't stand watching them talk about boring. But yet Goff, my dad that is the guy that he sleeps in a room with a cot in an engine block as a table never really been into sports, except NASCAR kind of guy that will cut down trees and have a follow his face and bitch, at the tree as he's covered in blood. Win us only what was that about ten years ago, with his house and saw him. And he was so excited because the golfing match was coming on and he was all about watching Goff. Just totally shocked me. I was like, what was his person the type of person that digs ditch just for the sake of digging? Ditch just gotta do stuff, but you're not bleeding. You're not working running. So here he is in his twilight years sitting on his butt watching Goff. What would his forty year old self think but needs to be shut? Misery. What you got for. Molly mom's got a whole bunch of notes over here. She's she's well prepared for this podcast. I am. We're gonna talk about the glazers today. But before we get to that we didn't have a roster move, which I want to say, generally tweeted out that this might happen before it actually happened. See shirt in Gillian broke some news now. Really, she said, we might expect some changes to the offense of line, or we might expect a team to bring in somebody and then that day they announced, I think if you hours later, not long after that we signed the center, Josh Libya's will. He's one of the trial guys that we brought in that's correct. And we had wave Sean Wilson, I can't remember when that was last week, and then they didn't do anything with that roster spot until Friday, don't know the real going to make the team to be honest with you. Talking with some Redskins fans. They were like really sucks. Really well and he was on the saints last year but dealt with a lot of injury issues, he was depth for them. And then he ended up getting hurt. So. Yeah. Get hurt in a game or I can't remember I think it was right before we played them the second time because I remember it on the injury report in the preview for the game. Definitely don't see him making the starters wide tips anything. Yeah. And you know, as generally pointed Al Evans Smith, he is still recovering from hip injuries, which is weird. It's like both of hips. Here the problem last year. I are he played the first half last year he was rotate in and out with been Anoc, and then he got hurt and was out for the rest of the season. That's been a Aachen Kappa started rotating, guard, right, Geno lane pointed out that they're not quite happy with where Alex Kappa as in his progress. So I don't think he did that he wasn't as bad as been, but we're looking for top of the line elite guys, and I think it's probably a problem with buck near fans in most fans football fans general, we want everybody in every position to be the best and we're not going to get that on offense of line for sure. At this point, I would settle for average just an average offense of line, and Beccles was on Peter reports last podcast. And he brought up that all of our offense lineman our strength, the type of player that they are all of our different. And when you look at good offense of lines, the league like new Allan. They're all the same type of oftens of lime in their big bruisers. It's like a co keesa unit and here we have just a five guys who have five totally different play styles strength. And we're trying to make them all fit. Together. We have either an athletic line or the big bruising line, or the smart guys that can run all these goofy plays may prefer. I like the big bruisers. Yeah. We don't have that. I mean you could say Donald Smith and Dodson physically Burs and MRs person people up last few games last year. We've talked about that on the podcast when he was literally picking guys up and throwing them and then a knock to throw in the intimate Dotson who does a I think Donovan was throwing out of their own and knock was getting a little vicious towards the end to. He's kind of a bruiser Jensen Amar pet in Jensen's a little bit more athletic. I mean he's billed as. Loser. But you don't see on the field except for unnecessary roughness penalty, which are s I'm gonna put a constricts just saying he likes to hit people obviously bribed, but he's not your big big bully type guy. Right. He's more of a scrappy. Yeah. Bully Ellie more pent is, he's a smart guy. He's not a big burger. I wouldn't really say he's athletic. He can he can block in space somewhat. But I don't know. He's, he's what you would call a Jack of all trades with think verse at all very, very versatile. So, yeah, our offense of line is just a hodgepodge of different types of players. And if you do if you look at Dallas back and watch the Dallas game. I mean, those guys are huge strong. They don't move unless Vida Vegas, hold. Go back and watch that game that they were throwing our whole defensive line around, like they were sacks of potatoes. Nobody could get by any of them except for Vida. He was he was just destroy in as he single handedly kept us in that game. I can't talk about even offense without bringing up excited. So, yeah, I agree with the Beccles on that. I would like to see us have more of a cohesive, unit of guys that were of like build, like strength as it is right now, we've got all across the board. Okay. So then how do you deal with this without completely rebuilding? And we can't do that. So what's your work around for that? We're just gonna have to scrub out everything or hop is taught. Replace it with which gore. How claimed that he tried to get these guys to follow through in block to the whistle. But they did wanted to did was Jensen and that caused him to get those on this roughness penalties which if you go back and look, he was blocking these guys before the whistle. They were crap penalties. At least two of them, I think he got four, but I want to know of whistle blew after he blocked a guys. So they were BS Benadryl. But yes. Just, you know the new offense of lamb once in a good, good, good. Good win as the run game coordinator Godwin. Now goodwin. Gosh, goody getting can you remember that good win? Goodwin is who's off offensive line. Joe Gilbert, Dilbert and on from indie, too many Jason Gilbert, yes Gilbert, has got just focus just focus on these guys being tough and solid and playing through the west all plans the whistle. I mean standard around when you say. George warhawks said he was working with them to get them to play through the whistle. That kind of throws up my bullshit meter because like Ren Dax with Pune cast was saying that when they were going through drills, and not as it was just kind of going through the motions. You can't expect them to execute all the way through the whistle if that's what you're going to tolerate in ta. Yes, yeah. You've got to do it in practice to you can't have these guys go quarter speed and practice and that follow through. And then expect them to go full speed and fall through a game. And throwing all these guys with different strengths different play styles. Different bills on offense of wine. It just goes to show that cutter and his whole coaching resume was more married to the scheme than they were concerned about whether their players were a good fit for that scheme. Exactly. Yes, they were very our defense was totally bad for them. I mean, our players like most of. Cornerbacks were man coverage in college remain guys, VH threes. Man guy called Davis, man. Got. That's what they excelled in and they come in. Mike Smith has them playing zone and off coverage ten yards insanity. And we've got Noah Spence, who you know, he's a hybrid more of a three four guy. Nasa is more of a three or four guy. But we got both of them and we had them on defensive end in a four three. They're straight very strange. How we yes we were too worried about the scheme and not fitting the scheme to the players we to worry about fitting the players to the scheme. They were they were skiing is could more carriers. Right. But then coach getting players that don't fit. Their scheme is at Jason light or is that a disconnect between don't offense and the coaching staff I do as the coaching staff, not just not great at identifying talent. Will you gotta figure the first year minimum the first year? Lovey Smith was in control of the roster. He had complete control the Ross, and that was in his contract, and he was very vocal about who to draft. And you know, it's hard to tell where Jason light is really dot power. He doesn't even now seem to have full power. The roster, I think areas has got a big voice in his ear. I just don't understand why you would let I mean, I know that the GM's job is to find personnel negotiate contracts. Let stuff. But why would you not involve the head coach in that why would the head coach, not have a lot of influence over that? Yes. And I wonder how much cutter was even involved in its looked to me in this election. But lovey Smith had control the roster and he picked the draft picks. Right. And then when it cut her comes along cutter doesn't care cutters just worried about his schemes. You know his routes and designing all that mess. He didn't seem to have any input whatsoever in the they drafted. So that seem be like. Skies there in cutters gene for three years. And now it seems like areas has a huge influence in the who we pig. He's probably got more powers who we get them like does so to make sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta have to work together. Unfortunately, the light has this is the first time he's ever actually worked with a head coach before it was lovey Smith. Pick the players light just kind of yoga in cutter, nothing to do with it, and like made all the decisions, and then now it seems like there might be a kind of marriage between the two like more cohesion cooperation. But I feel like areas can work with just about anybody because he's going to damp to everything to the players. He have. Right. But there are qualities and characteristics that he prefers a player smart fast physical. He likes link. Yeah. There's quarterbacks likes nap fronts mistakes. Yes, he hasn't or better. Now, I think. Yeah but that goes back to what I was saying. It's a it's a thing with fans. We, we always want the best player at every position and we're not possibly came having. No team out. There has the best core linebackers and the best. I corps defensive linemen and the best Cornerbacks and the best safety, you're lucky to have one really good player at each position group, you know. So we look at the offense of line we go on. We want our right guard to be shirt chair from washing rents or something. But it's it's not gonna happen. We're lucky to have one or two guys like that. I'm with you. As long as they're average. I'm happy as long as they're not out there. Screwing up Tony. Benn knock was the beginning of the year or like Donald Smith. Does all the time. He screw up he quits. Yes. Right now he gets beat now. But. The effort lack of effort. Yeah. Yes. Nello phen-. Yeah. And if you if you watch it's more important for guys not to mess up than it is for them to make spectacular plays. If you watch every play where there's big yardage. It's because one two guys messed up messing up mistakes are bigger factor than having an elite player on your team that could make big plays you know, because you figure you got an elite player. He's gonna make maybe two three four big plays they're in a game. But you got somebody that sucks on your team. They're going to mess up five six seven eight times a game. Yeah, they're giving up that many plays at least right which netting if you take the good plays in the band plays. You're netting more bad plan, which is how I grade does band plays versus a good place. I don't give crap if you make a fantastic play, if you make six really crappy plays you're no good to me. Donald Smith is the king of make it bad place. I mean. In my film studies. It's I think I, I haven't really said, on account, but he averages about five or six bad plays a game. That's a lot. Is it does him? Quitting or him messing up. It's generally quitting the hill. Get beat sometimes just quit. We talk about their town. How hope hope turn around and watch the play happen. Yeah. Hell watch James get frigging nailed by defensive end that he was just engaged with three seconds before that. And here's another thing I'm into bring this up. I didn't write it down. But since we're talking on this aisle went back to watch some games last year. And you know, I'm real big into the intangibles the things that you don't see necessarily on the field as far as the play is concerned. It's the little things like after the play before the play. How guys talk to each other and stuff like that. One of my big things is helping teammates up win when your quarterback. Get sacked I believe it's off its lime in duty. And John to go over there and help him up. It shows come Roderick ship is and also believe coach. I'd say if your guy that sacked him if you're German steak, you better be the first one over there helping pick that quarterback up. I went back and I was watching the games from last year. I think I watched three of them. One was the Chicago game which I don't know why torture myself all the time. I probably watched it thirty times. But in that game the whole game we did not pick a single one of our players off the field. We would we will step over our guys laying on the field. But then Chicago every play their help each other up. You know, if guy makes a tackle he's in the pile. There's a couple of guys walk it over there to help him up that never happened with our team. And to me, that's a sign of Banting chemistry. Yeah. Especially offense lineman offense of Lyman you pick up that running back and you pick up that quarterback because those gear guys yeah, that's the whole offense of lines. Purpose their protection you protect your quarterback protecting the run game then you just don't see it. It was about four years ago, can't remember this Pacific. So I'm gonna say Joe Holly, but he was great. He would, you know, every time to got sag. He's over there helping them up or more likely knocking guys off of them to get James Winston, OB and I'm really really like that gun. There was a play with Josh Freeman where he was getting like pancaked by somebody and some that opposing player was like on top of him. I don't if they were kinda scuffling, but it offense of liming comes in their chief shots that dude. Right off Josh Freeman. He wasn't can't remember who. Might have been was was making with freemen. Yeah. Then it was definitely logging because he, he was a tough summa bitch. And he would do that. You didn't mess with his quarterback. And was last time, we saw something like that now is any of these guys may be Jensen. Maybe I don't recall seeing Jensen, but I'm sure it happens. It just hasn't happened in the games that I've been watching and looking for the okay. Listen eve watched all the game multiple times. If you haven't seen it probably hasn't happened. That's true. Yeah. So that's something I'd like to see more of. And it's, it's a small thing. But to me, it creates team bonding. I do not like to see guys on the ground in half to get it by themselves, especially if they're surrounded by three or four opponents in. There's guys will top level when everything you know, come on, get those guys off of them and helped the guy up, we talked about this from past few years at how are defense when they made a play nobody would celebrate. But last year with additional. P. It looks like he got into that celebration thing. I don't know what it was the Tomahawk or something. Yeah. And that's the first time we've seen that in a long time, you know, they make a sack and they all get together about thing. But yeah, yeah I like to see when you make a good play. Everybody, get excited and celebrate and win your guy gets tackled or your defender. And you make a tackle it's good to have your teammates come over and help you. Well, we don't have that on the buccaneers haven't had that in years McCoy, of course, would help deposing players up, but he wouldn't help his own teammates up. See we can't go what we've been twenty minutes into this, and we already talking about German town. Yeah. You know you a buck, here's fan. So what do you got for Molly? Well, I promise last podcast, we do some profiles on the glazers, they're really interesting family. So I became a fan we got together in two thousand nine and I was forced into the relationship. That him. She was a Carolina Panthers fan. That's right. Yes, Hoda, we gotta tell that story. She's a she's a Panthers. Never I wasn't a football fan. I watch my family was not really into football and he didn't really have a team did not grow. And you know, they're kind of casual the launch and on, they're not going out of their way to keep track of what's going on. He might buys a sweatshirt or whatever. But so we live in Carolina ROY to hit you. Right. So you're saying, I'm talking to Molly, and I'm like he is trying to get my pants time. So there was like follow football. And she was like I was like who's your team? She was like the Panthers. So of course, you know, I'm all well, the Panthers were it wasn't a dealbreaker then hard for you very hard, especially after this. The Panthers were paying this was back when Gruden was still a couch. So this is like two thousand eight the Panthers were paying the buccaneers on Thursday night football and this was the game where I win that's the end of Jon Gruden but in him. So I was with a bunch of my friends and we're watching this game and the buck nears. Discount wolf, it was a dip was and the whole time. I'm text of the Molly. We talk it, and showed it to talk shit that anybody, of course, extremely competitive. Bucks or losing to the Panthers that sucks. And then the girl I'm interested in is rub it in my face. And I'm sitting around all my friends, and they're all wrote it enough, as I don't even care. She. She didn't care at all. Just phony that. So anyhow. End up losing that game. I was depressed I was like upset because I was like, that's the end of the grew narrow. That's it. I mean he just phoned it in that game. It. Sure enough ended up getting rid of him, and then me and Molly got together. And I was like, okay if we're gonna be together and you're going to be Carolina fan that's going to be kind of hard. That's what she was like I don't really care about Panthers. Oh, I'm ready for a new team anyhow. So I was like cool. Let's go. And then that's win this bomber left which was the starter. And then Josh Johnson Johnson, and it wasn't until I think it was the Green Bay game Josh Freeman when he came in that you were like this is exciting. Yeah. Yeah. That have found Sunday ticket. I had to watch every Sunday. Yes in two thousand ten was great season. We had care blunt was killing people doing the hurdle Herlin, which is before, then I had seen, like, three run banks ever do that in the history of the NFL and legare comes in and he's doing three times a game. It was so exciting. He just plow people over, and it was an exciting to we had keep to leave was just going crazy out there. And we had sex addict, Kella Winslow, tearing it up on the Josh Freeman was throwing it left and right. And having all these fourth quarter comeback games. Oh man. That two thousand ten was exciting, and then two thousand eleven happened. And me. And Molly were so amped up for two thousand eleven we were we were talking crap to everybody. We were wearing our gear out every family that is Carolina. Carolina fan us. And we were wearing gear out everywhere in, in just being extremely boastful and prideful. We're like two thousand we're going all the way this year 'cause we wear our gear anywhere all the time. Anyhow, but it we, we were with with our chest on a little bit more to start two thousand eleven and it started off really. Good. And then London game happened against a cog now. And in the that was the worst football ever watched my entire life from then on the rest of the season. And we were so embarrassed. We go out sit at the bar that just kind of cover band. They're like, oh, this is bearing. And I actually think I apologize to you once or twice 'cause he was so excited to ten season. It was like, oh now just used talent. And in the two thousand twelve and then at, yeah. Ever since is just hold where. First time for me is about span was lovey Smith's, I was pregnant, and couldn't drink that would that would hear the horrible. I remember we were at the bar because we didn't have an NFL Sunday tickets. And we had to find a place that showed the game, we're not in Tampa or areas. So it's like Buchan ears or way down on the list. So we go to we find a sports bar, and that was kind of our place where if you years, and I remember go in there, and there was a table beside us, where waste in and one of the women, I think was about to get cut off and they brought shots to the table for them. And I think she got cut off and she tried to give us a her drink. And I was like, I can't I'm pregnant, and they're like, well, we should get you some cheesecake is cream. I can eat my feelings right now. The lovely regime was it was so uninspiring ball you want. You could say about cut, or at least the offense was kind of exciting you felt like off. It's on. It was exciting. But sometimes they were very lacklustre as well love. It was just miserable. Football. We've had a long time miserable football time. What bugged fans get amped up because that is gone. Those days are in the past. We're going to have some exciting exciting exciting football. And I'm excited about our defense. I think we're gonna come out just blazing is gonna be crazy watching this. What if offense hit their ceiling last year? I mean they were pretty good as possible. Can they be better? Yeah. We love better, the Sean Jackson, if he would've caught balls. He would have been we would incredibly good. Yeah. W wouldn't. He will put his arm out out there T-rex trying to catch a ball. What bothers me about this John Jackson. You can see it happening when the media turns again. Player. And that's what happened with him and immediately. I mean his performance on the field was enough to be pissed off about him. But then the media for them to turn against him and start publishing crap that they did. It was just kind of, like wait. Why are you doing this? Now what? You know it's not about his on field performance. Why? Yeah. You can watch the media, you can always tell when, yes, I is really distrustful of the whole get rid of Sean Jax, and I'm glad at this point that we did hearing that there's really ban shit, and that would probably in his career, if it had come out, but that would kind of been helpful to know during the season. That's why they were doing it. Well, we would never call anybody to be fired. No matter what now. And I'm not a big fan of one entity being judged and executioner Tony with media. Yeah. I don't think that's right. So. Her months last night, me, and Molly played man and twenty teen. The cost of the Sean Jackson out how many balls did he draw? I had like five Hughes wine over like five times, but here's the thing, don't they don't they put out the game like Madden eighteen before the Twenty-eight teen season. So then they don't even know how that's going to go up to the players as a season goes down. Avenue. He was going to drag all they should've had twelve interceptions on me. Ray. But yeah, they should've had the Sean Jackson. They're not even trying to catch passes if they wanted to be legit to the actual performance of the players, and they would have just had him out there with his hands in his pocket or something. And they get mad when the ball went right by him catching the balls from Jameis Winston. I want I want Ryan Patrick now on the ball. I don't know if that was that. I don't know if it was the only people that knows what it was Joe books fan here. They're not gonna tell us until way after he's retired. So anyhow enough commiserating. What are we got on the glazers very fascinating fascinating group of people when I came the fan? Thousand nine thousand ten and I didn't know anything about him, he was still alive, Malcolm was, but I think sickly, so I think that kids were running everything at the time when you became a fan that's became a fan. And so I'm going to start with him. Do you know anything about him awesome? He was a real estate developer righty. Well, he bought a lot of commercial properties in Tampa. Yeah. That's how they made all their money wasn't like strip malls and stuff. Yeah, it's commercial real estate. That's good money. If you get, of course, real estate scrap get into this is crazy. But remember after the financial crash two thousand eight I was like, in a couple of years, the real estate commercial real estate market is gonna crash, and never did, surprise me. In telling people have a lot of capital Marshall. Yeah. They were able to withstand the store, interesting. Well, Malcolm Glazer did not start off with anything. His parents were Lithuanian Jews that immigrated to Rochester, New York. He was the fifth of seven children in the family. He went to go work for his father's watch parts of business. They sold watch parts while the dons where he started this American story specific niche Mulkder watch, I now that his dad died when he was fifteen and he had to go and sell watch parts like door to door. And he said, it was one of the most tragic things that ever happened into his life. But it's what made him into a man. And so this man who comes from immigrant, parents and pull themselves up by bootstraps, and he's a frigging billionaire right now. Now here. Yeah. It's, it's just incredible where, you know, people talk about how the wealthy one percent or whatever you wanna call them pass money from generation to generation, they call it generational wealth. I read a book called the millionaire next door a few years ago, and eighty percent of all millionaires are new money, and most rich people. Their money doesn't last past one generation usually by the third second rations completely gone, which makes Glazer's, even more fascinating has here, they are second generation, and they're billionaires, resells, like raises his kids, right to understand business and finance crafts. Yeah. Sell you touched on a little bit. He he had a watch jewelry repair business, and then he expanded into real estate investing into single family homes in commercial buildings. Karol Rosa, then he bought the national Bank of savannah. In upstate New York, so he made some good money in real estate messing on a Bank, then he bought some healthcare facilities in Connecticut. You know, I watched the documentary years and years ago. Kate, we're what was bad or anything? But it was this guy he used to be a Wall Street banker and he quit. And he started. Gosh, I came right. I think it was like a crab fisherman. He became a crab fisherman. What, what's the deal with that? Why would you do that? And he said, well, growing up always liked money. So I got a job deal with money, and then I realized after I got a bunch of money that I really like seafood. So it got a job to and save, and that just makes so much sense to me. It's like if you want to be rich, what's the thing to do? You do something that has to do with money become a banker or an vestment portfolio manager or a hedge fund manager or something of that nature. Most of those, people aren't for I don't know, any poor bankers. Yeah. And if you like to eat seafood, become a crash Lynn. So what can we do with the buccaneers to make us millionaires to make the win? I don't now now it's make us many ultimate. We could get some football maybe too. So after the healthcare facilities he bought television stations, then he found ruined. Yeah. In New York in Georgia, Georgia. Yeah, they're all over the place. He said commercial real estate in Tampa now it's all over the country. The they have shopping centers in twenty states group, they're corporation. It's first allied corporation. It's a New York corporations generic, I now know probably they had gotten in Delaware should have been in Delaware very favorable for corporations, all these, like, huge corporations are usually incorporated in Delaware taxes. Yeah. Hook very favorable will admit there, Dan, I guess, pay a lot of taxes. But so this, first ally corporation, it's like his. A holding company for most of their real estate and one of the sons is the chief executive officer Kevin. They have seven kids, only four involved with the bucks. Seven kids are six I'm sorry. Six really didn't know that. Okay. Three notary those explore with the bucks Brian Edward and Darcy Edward well get to that. Okay. Almo- jumping into this. Shoulda raise my hand question, basically. Well, okay. So I lied invested in like International Holdings, and public companies so like the Zapata corporation shoes Spanish right now, Harley Davidson, Tonka, toys omega protein, like I guess it was real estate. Holy in the end stock. It sounds like stiff and then he tried to buy Conrail the freight company. In the eighties. But then that didn't go through, then he was the largest shareholder of Formiga in nineteen eighty eight and later with Harley-Davidson the largest holder Harley Davidson, ran that in the ground. Actually, they were they were going to eighties nineties, but he achieved control of that pot corporation, which was in oil and gas company founded by George H W Bush so when he took control of it was a hostile takeover. Type thing I don't know. I don't have that information because that's what they did with the United. Yeah. I love to look at what they did. There should read into really fascinating is a business person who make you go awesome. So the family in the nineties, they wanted to have a professional sports team. They just they wanted. Yeah. Could you imagine just being like I would love to own a football team. I would tell does only thirty two on the planet that have own football team. So crazy that, that's, that's very exclusive clo-. Yeah. And now it costs billions, I'm ruined Schneider bought Redskins. It was like four hundred fifty million. He paid for awhile, and they're worth one point. Billionaires the backs the Glazer is bonded for one hundred ninety two million in ninety five. In a twenty fifteen Forbes article they listed as being worth one point two billion two billion in two thousand fifteen. So it's probably about one point six billion. So we're point five lot of that has to do with the, the way the book and ears integrate with the Tampa sports authority in the community. The city down there. They basically the gover- the city type obey pays for everything in the glazers just make profits off of. It's really fascinating. How they extremely good business deal on their part. I think a lot of football teams do that they've gotten to now but guys were one of the first ones to do it. But the, the deal they have with the Tampa authority is extremely good for the buccaneers organization and the glazes in particular. So that's why they're worth so much money. I mean the buccaneers are losing franchise. They don't have a fan base around international fan base like the Cowboys the patriots. Good stuff. So this isn't based on actual value, as far as ticket sales, and merchandise sailing Kremlin dad, it's based on the stadium and the deal they have with the city down there. But yeah, the glaziers it very good. Business people if nothing else the late lane they're all involved in the blacks, Manchester United and then the one brother, Kevin with all. Are you said there were six kids? Yeah. And all involved in some kind of business. They're all of them business Ohka floor of them are involved with the box because you're only a thrill three of them are involved with Manchester United. So three of those four there, the six which three Joel labral average. Oh, they're cut chairman of Manchester. United, he they only have one girl, daughter and JOL and Edward. Those three or with me and you. Yes, the Kevin he's with none of the sports team not have anything to do with sports teams. But he's listed as the chief executive officer of first allied. So he is handling the real estate holdings. Apparently that company, A, N sports commissions, temperate sports authority, sports authority. Wasn't that the retail outlet sports authority? I don't remember Ideo with your so Brian Joel Darcy and Edward r the four involved with the bugs. Brian is owner co-chairman. He ever sees a lot of the day to day operations and was privy pretty pivotal in the family's purchase of the team in ninety five. He along with Jole help lobby the league to get the Super Bowl in two thousand nine and then again we're. Going to host it in twenty twenty one. So he was part of that he serves on this going to be a little tangent the NFL's digital media committee, so I'm looking up, what the hell is the NFL's digital media committee EM, any idea, you're gonna love this videos. I found I don't know what they do. But there is a ten page list of NFL the NFL committees pages painted pity big FOX. No, it's regular. She'll, she'll Justice work working committee. NFL foundation conduct committee where you're gonna read all these often. Ridiculous international committee committees Super Bowl committee, digital media, comedian NFL network committee minute that one is Jerry Jones. Did you know that? So Jerry Jones in charge of the NFL network. Wow. And Robert Kraft is the chairman of the media committee, which the difference. I've heard this fun one stadium security and fan behavior committee. Like, what what they do the who I don't get is that stadium security and fed behavior committee. What does that even mean I don't figure each stadium will do their own thing. Right. Well, they report back to the committee, apparently, jeez bureaucracy. That's like, holy cow employee benefits committee investment committee. You know what they should invest in the NFL, because I heard, it's doing really well, the compensation committee, it's just insane audit committee, and they have an audit committee. It's cranes committee engineering committee Kiessling. Okay. So what's that one must kill it? Musculoskeletal committee and they have a head neck and spine committee, this doctor Allen, sills, okay. General medical committee, health and safety medical committee. I don't know how that differs from the general medical committee spun hitting the committee. And there's a house on safety advisory committee, we should do a podcast just want all the. That's crazy. We've done like two pages here. Okay. That was a little side now. But I knew you're gonna love it, you know, how love administration I now so he's so Brian blazers chairman of the digital media committee, now he's not chairman, he's just on the committee voca. What is that? I don't now I still don't know. And that's what I went in there to look for. Look. I got over well, and by all the bureaucracy, and I just quit. What if it gets paid to build a community down to, I don't think so? Why would they do it for free? I don't know. He has a passion for digital media. I'm sure Bryan. Glazer has been inducted into the team. Obey business hall of fame. That was in twenty sixteen. Good pru. Yeah, they're real involved with the community so he makes appearances for like the Glazer family foundation. And he's also a member of the Moffitt cancer center, national board of visors the advisory board for the outback bowl and has served as chairman of the American heart association's annual heart ball. You know, you talk about you see these info, players twenty two and you go. What about? What about done with my life thing? How in the world these people have time to do all this crap? I mean that's like five different. These are just charity organizations. He's involved with. An running a billion dollar enterprise doing digital media, consultations within he'll the committee. I mean, we're people wittily find all the time to do all this stuff, I would have to say that they don't really do a whole lot with these things kind of not symbolic stuff. But, you know, it's not like they're out there actually working forty hours a week for the Glaser foundation or the Moffitt cancer center, they'd basically just show up and maybe science. Yeah. Still that would wear me out. Now a lot Bryan Glazer has his bachelor's degree in broadcast mutations. That's maybe where the digital media committee comes on. And then he's also got a lot of green from Whittier College. He's got a law degree and a broadcasting degree. Yeah. Bachelor you see a whole lot. It's very strange combination. So he's married and has two children. Interesting. So you said, Malcolm was one of how many children Devin seven then he had six Jodi, thanks. No his kids are having two three children for weird doesn't even have any. Yeah. She is the owner slash president of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers foundation. And the Glazer family foundation. So she they ever listed on the team's website. But it looks like she's just an owner. She does have a lot to do with the organs Asian. So she deals a lot with, like the facility design telling me about that. She's not as far as architectural engineering, but more, like the, the planning and design. Yeah. So she lead the planning, and design of the indoor practice visibility the training facility the stadium awesome stadium. Yeah. Incl-. She did the layout and the finishing touches of the club levels luxury suites, and the lower galley restaurant by love klobuchar. It's probably best club little stadiums in the league now. It's such a nice stadium club level. Kill you. Can't beat them. Both, ma'am. The pirate ship. Yeah. Awesome. Love our stadium. See also designed the buccaneers museum, which is where we went inside one buck plane. So when we were at practice last summer, Brian Ford, the co was walking around, if you've ever been practice you've seen him there and he is really a nice guy and engaging with fans. So we know who he was. We never been something like that. Walks. Are you? So we got to talk with him, and it was actually it was rouse birthday that I took him down there. A mile you've said it before they on them. And so we travel we hit a fly in. It's not like we could just hop in a car and had down there. It was a whole ordeal. Arms were really. Digits. I wanna laugh at that. Thought at that laugh out. So Bryan was like, well, you can't travel all this without seeing the one Buc place. So he took us into the lobby and we see the Lombardi trophy the rock all the bucket ears designs like the logos and the uniforms and then they have all the statues of the players and their about all Darcy nutrition. Yeah. Gonna give shout out of for men, great guy. He's like with me now. Does he know that? Ages. Greg, how they're extremely gracious. And everybody was also the personnel. The administrative people have just everybody was just great. We ended up walking out with a bunch of goodies. I hear let's tell this story civil walking out and everything's lockdown at one buck play. So you've got locked gates keep fiving. Keep me. Yes. And you've got the the gates at the front cars to come in. And so after, like, okay. All right. We'll see later. So we walk out and we realize we had no way of getting out of this place. I mean, there was no it's not like there's a guest exit or anything. We didn't keep up. So we kind of walked around. We really. Ended up half the call Brian full fare. Count him in his office. It was like we're kind stuck here. Can't get get out was pretty funny. So we get out, obviously didn't die in the parking lot. It was in addition to on the facilities Darcy is big with a lot of the initiatives that they have, so like the women of red that was her baby. See also launched the buccaneers academies, twenty thirteen which they serve like title, one schools, and those schools receive a courtside shade cover that promotes active and safe outdoor plan. So, I guess, being in Tampa, the kids can't get outside a lot shave. Yeah. So they're provide those schools get support from the players cheerleaders and they offer incentive based programs. They introduce ticket to the future program in twenty fourteen to incentivize continuing education, so those kids in the schools, it entitles them to. For the particularly the interview for employment with the buccaneers following their college graduation. Well, yeah, interesting. You never know how that's gonna work out. Work done, was huge in the community with his, his. His mother was killed to the cop or to be run back for. Look, here's his mom was killed in the line of duty and work done. Set up charity where he would buy single mothers homes, and he bought he's hundreds over one hundred. I know and as a matter of fact, Shawn Watson code back for the Texans grew up in a war done supplied home in that crazy. Yeah. How how crazy? So you never know what these charitable outreach is going to affect. Yeah. Like the impact they might have they don't hurt. Let's put it that way, there, so many that she's been a part of the vision mobiles or Murang'a mobile. I Clinton, the German was the figurehead of that Alesando and. In bucks for a better way would have like a whole bunch of health and educational initiatives military support so Darcy is kind of the spearhead of those, and then also the design of the facilities I did say she's not involved with Manchester United. That was from one source, but the buccaneers website says that she is so misspoke on that one. So for the four of them are involved with menu. She has a bachelor of science in psychology from American University, which is up in DC, and she's also got a law degree. She's a member of the New York state bars kissed you practices in New York. She's licensed in New York, and she and her husband JOL reside in Tampa. No children, no children interest. Yeah. Edward glaeser. He is the one who's really involved with the fan base. His commitment is to the families how on the who you. Now, I've never obviously not doing to Edward. He ever saw the overhaul of the teams marketing sales department. Any also created the member relations department which was created exclusively for the buccaneers season pass members. He was part of the decision making in the indoor practice facility. L, and then he's also responsible for the uniforms. Which we're created in collaboration with the NFL and Nike. So. Maybe that's why we don't hear much about it. Because he he's in hiding. He and his wife, Sherry are involved with a lot of film throb, it causes like John's Aid Foundation, the Crohn's and colitis foundation museum of contemporary art, Los Angeles. They also founded the bear program, which gives away, thousands of teddybears to pediatric patients at cedars Sinai hospital, UCLA, Mattel children's hospital and the children's hospital of Los Angeles. He served on the board of menu, and he's also the founder and CEO of US property trust which owns and operates real estate across the country. So he kind of followed in his father's footsteps. He went to college in Ithaca college in New York, and he actually they opened the Edward, and Sherry Glaser arena on the school campus. So he donated to his alma mater, they have three daughters in. The last Glazer child is. But he's got a lot of shotguns. Are you? Speaking from experience. He can like hire people to be a shotgun, though harsh way to be show. I want you to be shot go, and I want you to be a tree. Like a permanent cock block. What's your child professional? Why wouldn't I don't know thinking idea? Joel is the last now Jones. Meghan charge of most everything. Yeah. He's co chairman of the team, he worked alongside his father to buy the bucks in nineteen ninety five and then he also worked with his brother Brian's who get the community on board with their purchase and the building of Raymond James stadium. So they lobby the city is when it sounds like it's interesting. You know, Malcolm was such a huge guy with the buccaneers in the community and the fan all the fans across the nation new Malcolm Glazer. I didn't realize his kids were as involved while he was the owner as they were right because he had a stroke in, like two thousand six or something, but then he didn't die until two thousand fourteen so that's a long, that was like the first time I really started paying attention to his kids because then they, they took over and kind of. Yeah, we're in control the buccaneers. But I didn't realize that they have always been involved. Right. Like. Were helping him then. Right. Joel is really the one that's out front and center. He represents the franchise at all the league meetings. And he's also on several of the committee. It's he does the finance committee media committee, and international committee, which makes says we keep getting those stupid international games. Cure. On the committee, and they're like, okay, let's get a London game. Let's have five London games. She's gonna volunteer to go. All goes, I'll do it. We've done three times. This'll be the third time. Coming up this year. We haven't done it since two thousand eleven. Yeah. It's been eight years since we've gone over seas. Never been to make. Oh now are they even doing that this year? I don't remember weren't the tiger. Cisco while you look that up. I will continue. He worked with Brian to get the Super Bowl in two thousand nine and then again in two thousand eleven we're going to have it. We've got the chiefs what we playing in Mexico City, the Thiessen ransom supposed to play last year. But they the league decided to move the game, the Los Angeles when due to the poor conditions of the field in Mexico City. Great Chiesa charges. We'll play one of their two thousand nineteen games on the other side of the border not sure of the dates yet. I mean, they're probably they're not show. I look at it a lot, Joel. You're gonna love this. He has his bachelor's degree in interdisciplinary studies. American university. So that's what Peyton and barber got his degree in stands here, and we're like what is we sound like any it? We were big domes. Yeah. It's legit degree. Apparently, I still don't know what it is. He is married to Angela, and they have to children. So out of the four Glazer's, we mill that you profound here. There's five children. I think seven book, so to three and two yeah. Interesting. Yes. Three girls at least that we know. All right. Interesting, interesting. Well, that was good stuff. Molly, I feel like I know the glazers much better. Now. I feel like they're very behind the scenes. Maybe they're more involved when you're in Tampa, you see a little bit more of them. Well, they're not like Jerry Jones where he's out front sooner. Right. Robert Kraft, Robert Kraft, or Ursa Arthur blank with the falcons rush. He. He was like an evil overlord to me. Like I feel like he should be a long tail coat with, like a curly mustache. Where that he liked twirls all the time. And like a like a cane with a diamond on the top. He is. He's just like a caricature for the falcon. I took out of that. The falcons are ruled by evil. Overlord. Glazer's. I've been very quiet in their very mysterious. They're sneaky with all the stuff they do. Very, very, very good business people. Wait is why when people complain about them, I'm like they wanna win. They're not used to losing. They don't lose. They don't like they don't like the buccaneers have been losing. You figure there's thirty two owners, they want to be at the top of that list, it would be able to talk right now. They're the bottom, they can't stay in that crap. They sound like winters to me. Sounds like they've been successful and everything they've done. And plus, you know, you got your dad. You gotta live up to the got one Super Bowl took the he took Tampa from the depths of despair to the top of the mountain. They want to get to if nothing else. It will drive value of the franchise up. Yeah. Investment if their business now all the care about is money, if this argument Dan winning. We'll get more money. Sounds like they're heavily involved in the organization. And it's a it looks like it's got it's. Ten calls in a lot of stuff to exactly very embedded which you don't hear anything about it. They're not showy flashy people. Yeah. And they're not in the media time either hardly ever ever. Very interesting. Good stuff. All right. That's going to wrap it up for us. We'll have another podcasts out Wednesday. What are we going to come up with the tuck? We'll think of something between now and then we'll say something we always do, like, would have we ever not able to talk? 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Hour 2: Back In My Day

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Please we need to keep the show move. It. Start of the day start of the day in this year stat of the day start of the day start of the day. And they see a stat of the day start of the day start of the day. And they see a stat of the day start up the day start of the day, fitness. The start of the day. Hey. Courtesy of hembo at Paul hembo on Twitter Aaron Rodgers could throw one thousand two hundred and forty consecutive interceptions without a touchdown. It's still own a better career ratio than Nathan Peterman. To supplement that from pro football focus, his passer rating from a clean pocket is thirty six point four. You get thirty nine point six for spiking the ball on every play. Nathan Peterman, the the the bills the bills waived him the bills there. There's never been a franchise in the history of sports to get more in competent quarterback play than they got through their first eight or nine games and somehow won at Minnesota in the middle of that football. I know it wasn't Peterman. Peterman is I it Peterman. I feel like Peterman by himself should get everyone in buffalo fired everyone concessions people who work around the stadium. Just the entire idea that people in buffalo decided to keep starting that. When there are fifty Matt Berkeley's no longer working in the event. Barclays no along longer working in the league that you could go get. And they got one, and he was the real thing. That's my was was just like, hey, can you competently do some bootlegs out here? We don't just don't be someone who throws five interceptions and a half. Did we witnessed something special? Because if someone asked me was a worst quarterback you've ever seen. Nathan Peterman is a pretty good answer. Is this the worst? Yes, I believe that. We can I believe that we can say this for the rest of time. I believe that we witnessed the worst professional quarterback play. The worst quarterback play where someone was paid for what it is that they were doing. A paid professional give that stat again. So people can understand the opposite end of the spectrum give the stat of the day, again, how many consecutive interceptions would Aaron Aaron Rodgers have to throw one thousand how many one thousand two hundred and forty consecutive interceptions without a touchdown. So imagine him just dropping back and Aaron Rodgers his next one thousand two hundred and forty passes are all interception. He would still be better than Peterman. That's how many seasons of passes to full season is he throwing footballs nuns at some point McCarthy would bench him know. Still writing it out. Mccarthy's not getting fired. No are the pack of still winning ten games. Just because air Rogers is the quarterback Aaron Rodgers buys you at least fourteen point. That's. Even when he's giving points to the other team. I want to approach this who did Nathan Peterman just knock off for worse quarterback. Any of us have ever seen? Curtis painter. Oh, wow. That's good. Who did they bring in after Curtis? Painter. Didn't they bring some guy in that colts team that didn't win a game or one one game one game? I think they bring in some guy with funny hair. No, I think it was after Curtis painter. I think there was another one who thought he hair? Well, he just had lawyered lowing had flowing locks. But when you can't have flowing locks when you throw Peterman like you can look like the Clemson quarterback when you're Clemson, you could look like sunshine from remember the titan when you win you can't do that at the small schools when you're bad full season for Rogers. He'll average roughly around six hundred attempts. All seasons of interceptions for Aaron Rodgers. Just not stop interesting. He's not getting injured at sixteen. Games of interception. Worst quarterback ever. I am nominating. A miami. Dolphins expansion quarterback from nineteen sixty six to sixty nine. Rick Norton whose career had seven touchdown passes and thirty interception. I don't think that's as bad as Peterman seven and thirty Ryan Lindley when he started a playoff game for that's bad. Arizona. That's as bad as I've ever seen. Who was that? Former Virginia Tech quarterback who played at Arizona. Logan thomas. Oh, oh, yeah. Murderers eight but how about how about this? You will not find very much weirder in the world of quarterbacking. Then the idea the bucks have been struggling with their quarterback situation for a very long time. But Josh Freeman had one season. You could look it up where people were believing that. Josh Freeman was everything that they hope Jameis Winston would be that. Josh Freeman had one season that might be the best quarterback play. The Tampa Bay has gotten in twenty years and they've got a Super Bowl in their from Brad Johnson. That's easy to thousand at ten twenty five touchdowns six interceptions. And then he played on a Monday night for the Vikings. And it is the most incompetent quarterback display. I've ever seen now, admittedly. I haven't watched a lot of peterman's games. I've only seen the stat lines which are horrifying. But if you remember this Josh Freeman Monday night game that I'm talking about. That's what incompetent quarterback play looks like. And I just don't know how the Buffalo Bills decide again, and again to put Peterman out there while watching someone like drew greats. And like, wait a minute. Our guy is not quite that accurate. You don't even need to watch breeze. Just watch Matt Barkley well that too, but I'm just saying now imagine much frustrate how much more frustrating must be to be a bills fan though. And wait, I personnel. People thought that could do something. They benched tyrod Taylor. Remember the bills made the playoffs last year? And they decided there wasn't a ninja first time in seventeen years. They make the playoffs with tyrod Taylor. And then they say now we're going with Peterman in a game. But how do you trust that person moving forward? I think you're right. Everyone should be man. We had a poll earlier this year. Does anyone on the builds trust anyone else on the bills you realize how right vantera Davis got? This guy's crushed him for quitting you want. Then looked at Peterman said bleep that my career is over. So they make the brave move to bench Taylor. Even though everyone's confused by because Taylor is not playing poorly. This is a team that's in playoff position that bench him for Nathan Peterman. I ever start five picks in the first half. I'm pretty sure all five of them were in the first half. That Freeman game is mesmerizing. This is why Lewis show. Mccoy's the unhappiest man in the NFL twenty of fifty three for a hundred and ninety yards. And an interception. Let's go my private jetty thing. Going to fuel itself is worse than that peterman's worse than Josh Freeman is Peter and Mike what are the final numbers here because I'm gonna go ahead and call it a career on Peterman. Are you really I think he's going to? Back look out for ballot. Check out. This is what I'm telling playing a lot and Seaver. I mean, listen to me. This is what's going to happen? Peterman is never going to get a professional paycheck again. But he is going to win the collusion suit before capper, Nick. Twenty three and me, we'll help you find out more about you. Get yourself a kit and learn more about yourself. It's before we get to that, Mike. Greg Cody brought out a quarterback seven touchdowns thirty interceptions. What's peterman's rate is peterman's interception rate worse than this quarterback from the sixties? The Greg Cody has nominee. I think he's three to twelve three touchdowns. Twelve interceptions is three to twelve. Yes. Rick Norton's, actually, a little more than a four to one ratio by the way, the poster boy for bad quarterback Ryan leaf fourteen touchdowns thirty six intersects. I don't think you're doing the math right on this. I don't which who's better Peterman or your boy, Rick Norton. Well, peterman's got a four to one ratio right of of interceptions. Two touchdowns in Rick Norton's is seven to thirty a slightly more than four to one in favor of interceptions. So Naughton wins. I think smoking always affected my daily life because I was a clause. Smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended jewel. So I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. There's no ash all over your car. I would say give it a try get the flavor and satisfaction of smoking without the mess of cigarette. Asher lingering odor. Switch to Joel checkup. J U L dot com slash sports. If you don't smoke or vape don't start warning. This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive chemical donlevatar do list include the dead because if they do then Lawrence alleviate continues to be an a list actor stugatz. A list does not include the debt. I so Buster Keaton. List? Chaplain is no longer in a list. I think he is because he's such an icon, Mr. silent films, make up your mind, man. Does it change? It not you're all over the place, James Cagney Woody. Another one changes with death. Not what death of career Cagney time. VC's live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We will get to Greg cody's back in my day in just a second. But in the event that you are confused or you wanted more facts about our dissection of Nathan Peterman 's era in buffalo. Roy Bellamy has searched and scrubbed the sewers where you find all the terrible passer ratings and the highest interception rates since the NFL AFL merger and Peterman is in some really select company when it comes to pass his throne since the merger. No one is thrown the more poorly since the merger then one Nathan Peterman. It's the lowest passer rating for quarterbacks with at least one hundred and thirty attempts since the merger. It's the highest interception rate since the merger third lowest third Lewis third. Lowest my bed my bed. That's right. This bum. Scott bull and Kim McQuillan. Both of those guys were a little bit worse than that. But lest you think we're just crushing Peterman, and that people don't know what they're talking about in professional football. When the bills are doing the analysis on quarterback play. They are not alone. These are quotes, quote Peterman is ready to walk in and be a contributor from day one. He just looks like a pro quarterback. Most importantly, he will be able to get in the huddle from day one and look at ten grown men. It's surprising that Peterman is not getting more buzz. He should go. No lower than the second round. He reminds me of Andy Dalton people criticize doll to for some reason. But all these guys do is find a way to win games and put their teams in optimum situations that is two thousand seven those are the words of John Gruden. Not one of nine. I mean, you could go without saying you can pretty much just say Jon Gruden. I doubt it was two thousand seven. Eighteen. Yeah. That'd be seventeen to that. My bad my bed. Yeah. Jon Gruden was scouting and eleven year old Nathan Peterman. And thought he was great evidently. Let's go ahead and get to Greg cody's back in my day. Now, it is time to take the memory lane. Here's your guy brick could he with back in my day. Friends giving. It has come to my attention that board millennials with a hatred and disrespect for tradition of tried to invent a fake bastardize holiday. That means to knock the Turkey legs out from under the original feast thanksgiving, he originally are most iconic slice of Americana celebrated as a national holiday since eighteen sixty three but celebrated originally in sixteen twenty one when Plymouth colonists and want a no egg. Indians shared a bonus autumn harvest the reason encroachment of friends giving is wrong on so many levels starting with the name itself. A mash up of friends and thanksgiving friends giving rolls off the tongue like an obscenity. Shouted and church. Friends doesn't even rhyme with thanks one syllable, the only threat of commonality, mostly friends, giving his perf Lewis simply unnecessary. Did you hear what I just said about the first thanksgiving with colonists? And Indians breaking bread back. When corn was mazed. They weren't even relatives. And yet the idea behind the invention of friends. Giving was the thanksgiving was some something you did with mom and dad and uncle mcgillicuddy. And so you needed a second thanksgiving to share with friends dumb bulletin. You are allowed to invite your friends to thanksgiving ain't no log in it. Also, you're allowed to share a meal with friends and not have to give it a dorky name like friends giving if I sound a bit angry. It's because I am speaking as an annual thanksgiving host who regards the abomination of friends giving as diluting I take pride in mice spread lead. By my word winning. Greg's deep fried Cajun bird in this year. We have a new rule in place anyone invited to my feast is not quizzed beforehand in if they admit to having attended of friends giving event anytime in the previous month, they are disinvited, folks. It is time thanksgiving summoned the heft of almost four hundred years of tradition and history and kick the interloping friends giving clean out of the kitchen. I'm Greg Cody. And that's how it was. Back in my day, ever heard of friends giving before it is you had just mentioned it. I feel like you arguing gets a straw, man. But I may be Mike francesa in this situation saying who cares about Stanley's death. Just because I don't know about Stanley. Are you saying he's wrong? I am not it sounded like you are I want to question. Friendsgivings a well-known thing. I think you know, I asked a question is I'm saying I've never heard of it. I'm not seven called me wrong. I did not call accused me of the trumping up a straw mats. Is if d dollars. Okay. So what do we have to not two hundred fifty dollars two hundred fifty two even though I've never agreed to any of the fifty dollar fines is indeed thanksgiving. The biggest icon of Kana that there is is if I said if I said, I know you mentioned that bad in Arbor day. Opening day. Put it on the poll. Guillermo, what is more Americana thanksgiving opening day or Arbor day? That is straight talk and his brought to you by straight talk wireless, nationwide coverage and America's largest is our day. As what is Arbor day? What is it? There's no oxygen without trees. Donlevatar? My hair is unfashionably age. Inappropriate long, perhaps the longest it has been since college and may continue as such. I'm not sure why last vestiges of the. Of the extreme outer limits of midlife crisis to God's futile shield held wobbly against the encroachment of mortality, maybe the last stage before the onset of mister Rogers styles sweaters and the silent surrendering acknowledgement of official old aid. All truth. You always wrote you would be like one of America's greatest these are show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Here. Mo put it on the poll. Did you know that you could fart and burp three hours after your death and Mike rhymed, please get the high falutin music ready for public, Tori? If he starts to unspoiled one of his long winded. Polly Celebic tapestries. What do you mean if well we'll see Pablo Tori with us again, high noon, four pm he coined as he is often reminding you he coined the phrase the process for the Philadelphia seventy Sixers, so he's our seventy Sixers correspondent and Jimmy Butler has been he's being introduced right now. And how's this whole thing going to work Pablo? Because I think they're championship contender if butlers their third best player, but they're not going anywhere from the fourth quarter. He's going to be the guy who's going to be doing all the touching. Well, here's the thing. Dan, I have this pressure on this role as literal priest of the process for those who don't know I was thirty five as a pastor and married to Sixers fans at the right to Ricky fan Hsieh's podcast rap lottery party that Robert Covington attended officiated wedding in front of Robert Covington called out to him from the data's and feel pressure on that front by also feel pressure because that party is. But one example of the field that people still pay to Sam ninety. I mean, you deserve that feel to you. Do it deserve it. Like, two and a half syllable, depending how you pronounce the ill. But as a priest I feel this pressure because I have to interpret for many of the unwashed masses out there. We will of our departed creator like people look to me, and they asked what would Sam think about this trade, and it kind of like what I did a profit of some sort heels as responsibility or like all like, Barack Obama. We'd like I'm gonna come the side, my dear. Because if I weigh in things will only be more combustible. So what I will tell you is that the process won the process. The one, and I can get into legacy basketball stuff of his Dan, which you started to question with what if you look at what? The Sixers have done quietly, not only Joel Embiid nicknamed the process this Sixers organization trademarks trust the process, like two months ago on this screen if you are somewhere looking in a mini window at Jimmy Butler press conference put on hashtag T T P in the corner of the screen me. Sixers ownership which outstayed at four mentioned profit is now profiteering off of his departed image, which they thought to snuff out to say nothing of the fact their replacement for said profit what the dude who has been replaced because yet most burner accounts so on and so forth. So the process one Robert coffee didn't love you. But you were drafted player. Sorry. Sorry. I love you. But you're a euro stash guy euro stashed by the way speaking double entendre, he had both you stash over Europe. People don't mention that enough. But the point is these are two guys you copy of team player and Dan entire central of the process was we need to get stars. And the Sixers have more stars than anybody except for the Golden State Warriors. That was breathtaking. It was Brett like literally it took all of his breath away. I don't know if he's still there. He doesn't know if we're still there. I did blacked out of him as Sam Hanky. What does he think of it? I don't know I d m Sam sometimes, and it gives me like book recommendations, but didn't give any actual gossip. So I don't really same Hanky is one of the most protective privacy people you've ever met in the history of sports is he not he is. He is. Indeed. I don't I mean. It's funny that in this Jimmy Butler derby, right? You had hat Riley who did meet while wearing shorts. Now that I think about it. I was gonna make Pat Riley, very protective person. But I remember during the Jimmy V awards thing you Robbie into a room, and I was like wearing shorts and like knickers that a shirt at Pat Riley, where they're gonna say, Pat Riley, and Darryl Borey camping key were all his Cervi. And and Hanky from day. One was like I'm gonna make your life as hard as possible as a reporter. And the irony, of course, is that all that. Secrecy only built more to spend what was going on. So everything I wrote people kinda held against Sam because I did a decent job of like investigating. What was happening? Royalty's really at this point. I just want royalties. A lot of people are making money off the process. I'm this year say that I've seen Jiro doubts from it. What exactly is the process one, by the way? Well, the process has won various game that people did it take the Sixers were ever gonna win dared not at a championship level yet, obviously. But. Got who are these three who has a better big three outside of the warriors? Then the Sixers right now. That's a good question. A better bake three. Maybe maybe the raptors. Maybe no third. Oh Bacchus having a heck of a season. He is check the numbers. Danny. Tell me I'm wrong. Come on right hundred dollars. He's a good season. I'm not saying that Bach is not having a good season. I'm saying there that what he's saying about the big three is accurate. Philadelphia has three guys here. I don't even know I'm watching him beat last night Pablo. And I'm watching a player that doesn't have a whole lot of precedent for me. Like, I can't believe the things that do does at that size. Where he look he makes us on Whiteside foul out in twelve minutes. You know, and and just he's he's the most athletic thing I've ever seen it that side people need to understand something about Joel Embiid that I think it lost in all of the tweets and the trolling go and beat played organized basketball for the first time in two thousand and nine he did not play basketball until the year that avatar came out. Currently two thousand eighteen and Joel bead could've walked out of avatar one and said, I can try this basketball thing and before avatar to he's an MVP candidate in the National Basketball Association. That is insane. Describing. We had no idea how close even is to his ceiling. And that is the magic of Embiid. Now, if I mean, they know their hype polluting take on Jimmy Butler, real quick, Liz. I really have to question the veracity of your real quick. Okay. But I. I think Jimmy Butler they top fifteen top twenty player. I will also point out that he is a dude whose reputation is largely built to this point on this theater of out the mail, nap unity, and he hasn't really done anything. I'm just saying this not as a person who is trying to undercut his status as a team top twenty player. I'm just saying that if you're gonna traffic in I am the real man year, all of you guys need to get less. Soft gonna say get Harvard. That's more tricky. All you guys need help it up. The fact is what is he really done like Jimmy Butler a lot on the line in terms of proving that he can play with these guys. It's not just a oh thank God or saviors here to actually make good on that blow y was Minnesota's smarter to take Philadelphia's offer for Butler than Miami's or particularly Houston's for first round draft picks. I don't think they were based on these based on what I read. I mean, you guys can tell me, but the last the last nightmarish start of alternate reality, involved Richardson, and bam A. I would that the last offer that they were going to. I thought that Richardson was pulled off the table. Okay. There's no Richardson and that not as great. But if you're Hugh saying, you're offering the four I the problem is that top Capito has and he's trying to keep his job. This is the whole story. Like, why do you make the coach and the president of basketball rations the same guys because well, you don't do that because Tom kit. Oh now is fighting his more rational instincts, which happened to be the same rational instincts? Weirdly at Glenn Taylor, which is never a sentence that really uttered in basketball. But yeah, no. He's just a rational any way too long. And this is a fine deal. It's probably not the best way. You wanted to go shit though. Pablo wise James Cameron taking so long to give us avatar to. Here's the problem with avatar avatar one CGI was so revolutionary at the time. But I went and looked up some old clips from avatar avatar one. He doesn't hold up. And so I think if you're James Cameron and you're entering a world in which Michael bay. Had clearly mastered TGI and marvel RIT STAN Lee marvel had mastered TGI in Star Wars. I think there is some perhaps Mark health folksy in performance anxiety. And like, I don't know actually good enough to do that. I think game Cameron is very insecure about how good his GI is because that was the entire premise of avatar. What? Bach twenty-seventh in per Butler twenty eighth. I don't know what per means. But I hear you guys talking about it all the time at Bacchus better. He's more valuable. I think that the objection you might get from others. If they were objecting is the idea of Simmons and Lowery also is problematic. And then know, I don't know. That's a good question. Who would you rather have Embiid or Colli Leonard? That's actually a good question. I think I'd rather have Boston's three even though he word sort of starting off slowing Tatum struggling, that's better three sieminski can shoot. You can't. That's flaw. Simmons is fiftieth in per Larry's thirtieth. Oh, well, there you go. Nice nice using that stat that you did not wanna means. So so what do you think of all that Pablo in your face in my face per, I look forward if forgetting every substantial basketball conversation, we're having right now because it's November like, we're not hair. Honestly like this is all going to wash out by. December. You're not gonna remember this all agree that none of the staffer throwing out right now. My own included are going to make a difference when the broad James in the NBA finals to get. See you later Pablo. Support for the Dan lebatardshow podcast comes friends at rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Let's talk about buying a home for a minute because of rising interest rates. 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Oh, we're going to clash I know myself that was I mean that was remarkably self aware and introspective. I thought oh, I'm gonna just saying flat out. I'm going to plan with boogie cousins. And hand Duran going back and forth on it all the time. I would understand how Kevin Durant and Draymond green. We'd get sick of each other. Oh, absolutely. And I think I do think there's a problem there. I really do. I think there's just think they're to emotional guys very competitive and drain on his going to fight which is Steph Currys of different temperament. Kevin Durant will bear his teeth now. Right. But I do think though, regardless of all of that. I do think at the end of the season that Kevin Durant is probably going to leave there. Don't you? But you can think that all you want. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about what was happening last night and the emotions of the moment, and the idea that you've got very different temperaments there Steph curry and Klay or not built the way. Kevin Durant is right, Steph curry and Klay don't have the problems with Draymond. But Kevin Durant gets into problems with him off in the same way that he used to go back and forth with Russell Westbrook. Right. I could see how Draymond could drive a guy. Like, Kevin Durant? Crazy. I could add because Steph curry Klay Thompson, you're not gonna really his back. Right. But Kevin Durant will right? Let imagine if they weren't as good as they are right because doesn't usually winning excellence sort of smoothes all of those things while they were losing last night. And they were losing at the end of the game. And it happened at the end at the emotional time during a loss we were talking in the last segment about surgery Bacha. I am really torn here really torn. Here's why I'm torn. I actually believe in the Toronto. Raptors, However, I am done believing in the idea of surge of Baca as missing piece I'm done believing that he's having a big year. He's been great this year. I don't know if it's playing with I don't know, it's it's different than playing with the rose. But you're right. He is having a big year. And again, I will say I'm done believing in the idea of surgery Baca as missing piece I've been hearing it for forty years. He's been in the league. But maybe Kawai was the missing piece it out like surges needed that he needed to wide to play alongside of him. And now he's having the best he's ever had. Now, it's interesting that they have him as twenty five years old. He's been in the league for fifteen years already. Amazing. No way searcher Baca was the twenty five years old. He was twenty five years old when he was playing for the thunder. He was born twenty-five saying the same age as Josh Richards. Is that accurate? John Anderson is twenty five years old. Hold on a second real thought. He was making a joke that kid. That's right. He doesn't have the age. Right. He's gonna get fined for the reading internet wrong surge of buck is not twenty five years older. You telling me, I'm wrong. I mean, are you kidding me three hundred and fifty two dollars? That is insane. He's twenty nine. Get fined anyway. Yeah. It's Dan is loud. Wrong day Covey on this one. That's only five dollars. I thought the fine was fifth. I met a percent. Put this on the poll, please at lebatardshow on Instagram and Twitter. Would you prefer Alabama Clemson best of three and let's just cancel the rest of the season. If I told you right now ala Bama Clemson best of three just end the season right now. So they play both semi-final games. If it's one one they go to the national rather watch Alabama Clemson played twice than have these dumb arguments about Notre Dame and Michigan and Georgia. Now, I need to have the argument about who's left out you need the army left out the are dance. It's a time honored tradition who is the fifth team. The busted up system. It's not a bad idea though, home at home and then the third games on a neutral field. How would you do? Let's think about this for a second. Go change the unjust system. That's right. Three three games. But I I can protect their safety by again just ending the season right now, you could stop with everything all three games at Clemson. Clinton. I don't think Alabama into. We're gonna we're gonna so not one game to after game. One is part of the problem. I don't know how Nick Sabin does it. I really don't understand. You could have all these Steed, Cody on the ESPN radio smoking always affected my daily life because I was a closet smoker. It really sort of controlled my entire day. My boss is the one that recommended you'll so I decided to give it a try. You don't get any of the odor of smoking. 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Best of The Herd for Mar 18, 2020

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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Best of The Herd for Mar 18, 2020

"Thanks for listening to the best of her podcast. Be sure to catch US live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox sports radio, nfs one find your local station for the hurt. Fox Sports, radio, DOT, com, or stream it live every day on the iheartradio APP by searching heard. This is the best of the herd with Colin cowherd on Fox sports radio. here we go, it is a Wednesday. We are live in Los Angeles and this is the her. Wherever you may be in. However, you may be listening. We are on iheartradio. Fox Sports Radio F- as one XM Sirius, channel eighty three today. Last couple of days I'm just doing my radio show I walk around town. People are saying. Where are you? I turn on TV and I said well, it'd be on, TV, tomorrow that being today. It is Great Davian. It is a pleasure to have you in yesterday thirty minutes into our show. I gotTA TAXED That Tom, Brady was going do the Tampa Bay buccaneers, not a place I ever saw as a front runner I went with it. It was a celebrity slash. Wealthy source of the few friends. I have who are up in that stratosphere. This was one of them. He's a friend. He called me said Brady's going to the bucket nears icee really. And he said Yeah. It came down to the dolphins. It came down the chargers and it came down to Tampa Bay so I texted him John. goulet created this music bed so when I have to go to my phone during the show. I can at least The audience knows it's a signal that I am getting. Yes this. That means I'm on my phone getting attack, so this happened yesterday thirty minutes into the show, and I said I've never used a football source to break a massive football story but I. You know I went with it and we were right about six hours. Ahead of everybody else doesn't really matter in the end, but that's what happened yesterday. If you did not listen to our show. Let me, say this. I worked in Tampa for two years. I loved covering the team. Tampa Bay. There's a lot of five or six seven irrelevant franchises in the NFL yearly basis. TAMPA BAY SHOULD NOT BE CLEVELAND ownership in and out of coaches in and out of quarterbacks in and out of GM's got since Baker Mayfield arrived three coaches interim coaches numerous GM's. There's a reason they're bad. They're dysfunctional and ownership Washington redskins. There's a reason they're dysfunctional. The owner is a meddler Then there's organizations like Cincinnati. They're cheap. They just don't have a lot of money. then. There's organizations like Jacksonville. There's just apathy there now. Playing games regularly in London more than one this year. Tampa shouldn't be this bad. They've had great coaches Jon Gruden. Sam Wash. Tony Dungy Bruce Arians. They've had hall of fame players. That had. They want a super bowl. They've got passionate fans. Stadium can be packed. They have great facilities. That they should not be bundled up. In this Cleveland. This kind of Malays of apathy and we go ownership. Their owners are not poor. I know the Glazer family I love. The kids didn't know the dad particularly well, but when I worked there for two years, the front office was smart. The players were good. The coaching was excellent. This was not Cleveland. This was not Washington. This is not Detroit. It's not cheap Cincinnati. What is held them back? quarterback. In the. Since one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy six since Tampa has been a franchise. Passer rating. Last in the NFL seventy-three. Completion percentage. This is hard to get your arms around last fifty-six percent. Their quarterbacks have thrown eight hundred and thirty touchdowns and eight hundred fifty two picks. This is all franchises say we are just a quarter back away. Tampa is. There last everything in quarterback. They've got a wealthy owner. Passionate fans smart people in the front office. They've had great coaches. They want a super bowl. They've had great players. When I was a kid growing up, we didn't have a pro football team. In Seattle then we got one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, six, seventy seven season. Seattle got one Jim Zorn's Sherman Smith Steve, large it. It was an offensive team couldn't stop a nosebleed Tampa was the opposite. Tampa had the sellman brothers. They were great defensively. They couldn't score if you'd just been able to combine the two so I've been following Tampa forever. They were the team that came in with my seahawks. And then I went and work with them and had a blast. It was well run. Smart People. But. They never could get the quarterback right. I was looking this morning. That's why that's why Brady's GonNa fix this thing. There I quarterback. spurrier way better coach than quarterback. Then, they went to Randy Hedberg boy. Those were the days. Doug. Williams was solid, not spectacular then they had a bunch of Steve Berg's Jack Thompson Vinny Testaverde for a few years. Back to Steve Berg Trent Dilfer, my buddy. I covered those teams Shaun King Brad Johnson. Brian Greasy Chris Simms Byron left which they had the Josh Freeman years. Jameis Winston. They don't have one great great quarterback ever. The Super Bowl they want with Brad. Johnson, his nickname, perhaps mean-spirited was captain. CHECK DOWN! There the only franchise. There it, every other franchises had a guy one. Steve Young played for about an hour. There that doesn't count. So. Last year is so classic Tampa. They were seven and nine. Six of their nine losses, touchdown or less in the game late. In those six losses twelve turnovers. Jameis Winston. Jameis Winston had thirty picks last year in the last four years. Tom Brady's had. Twenty nine, so James had more last year than Brady's had in almost half a decade. The Tampa Bay buccaneers are the one franchise that can say you know what. We're quarterback away and they have been mostly for the last thirty years, and now they've got one. He's a leader. He's a winner. He is accurate. He doesn't make big mistakes. He's great at the line. They are the one franchise where I look at and go good Lord. If they could just get a quarterback, they never have using Chicago. Miami of had their problems. You think you think Denver's had their problems post John elway. They've had talented guys. Peyton manning that Tibo, even one there. y'All Miami Post Dan Marino. That's interesting players. Tannahill wasn't bad. Tanna Hill would arguably be as good as anybody Tampa's ever had. He's up there with Doug Williams. Better than Josh Freeman. His career's better than Trent dilfer. He's better player than Brad. Johnson so Brady's GonNa work. ARE THEY GONNA win a ton of games. I don't know, but they got the weapons. Let me, also say this. I work at Fox sports. Best Place I've ever worked most fun I've ever had. This is by the way a weird two three weeks stretch. That's GONNA probably be a weird summer. But I I was thinking yesterday with Tom Brady. Was Good, day for Fox. For years and years, CBS made a lot of nutty putting Tom Brady on those late games Tom Brady is now buccaneer. By the way Tampa and Tom Brady next year face Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay Patrick mom's and Kansas, city the La Rams and drew brees twice. Those are all national TV Games over great watches. They'll be on Fox. Conversely New England now which CBS leaned on is an absolute snooze. They have no weapons and jared Steinem, and they just lost two of their best five defensive players. How good are the Patriots going to be I? Said yesterday. I'm not so sure they haven't built up enough. Equity tank do a golden state. They don't have a contingency plan. They don't just let go to top defensive players. Doesn't look like. From what I can tell, they've got anything planned. Why would they go five and eleven four and twelve? Get rid of some players. Free up cap space rebuilding. Get quarterback, next year. But Tom Brady. Will win this divorce. And it may be at least in the press an amicable divorce, but he's GonNa win it for the first two years. Because he is inheriting Bruce Arians and Mike Evans Increase Godwin and a great tight end functional running backs He's GonNa. Win This puppy his. is going to be outstanding. and New England's going to be a complete bore at quarterback and they've got I believe this morning. The worst weapons in the NFL is now a weapons league. So don't kid yourself on this. The Lakers were unwatchable. The second Kobe retired Cleveland twice fascinating to unwatchable twice Golden State today. unwatchable when the stars left, San Francisco without Jimmy Garoppolo being healthy brutal. He's healthy can't take my eyes off of Aaron Rodgers every time. He rolls up on that collarbone and misses a game. You can't watch. The packers play the colts without Andrew Luck. So the consumer you control TV ratings, therefore you, the consumer control the networks. Tom Brady is going to be all over the networks for at least a year against their in. Rogers drew brees twice La Rams Patrick Mahomes CBS this morning is figuring out ways not to put the Patriots on. So, Short Term Brady for a year at least is gonNA. Get a lot of love, a lot of touchdowns a lot of attention. He'll be a topic on this show weekly New England will not don't kid yourself. Fans are attracted to stars and Stories Brady is both new. England is neither. The winner in this divorce for a year, perhaps amicable kind of sort of is Tom Brady be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern not am Pacific. On Fox sports radio F S One and the iheartradio. APP You know what's Interesting Tom? Brady is really I think. Ballot check and Brady uniquely and Both formed a culture in new. England that was several things. Very efficient, very cerebral, very detail oriented. I could make an argument that the Tampa Bay buccaneers franchise, and this is not a shot at them. It's just their reality is the opposite of new. England. New England has really zero weapons and won't spend form that is now the straight of Tampa their weapons. New England has sort of a no days off culture. No days off. Work your fingers to the bone Bruce Arians the coach of Tampa. Cocktails early. Once bragged, on HBO. Stan white coaches can't go home for dinner. The exact opposite New England is frugal, then cerebral and efficient. Tampa's talented, unbelievably inefficient, the last several years. Jameis Winston New England. The last twenty years has been defined by the greatest quarterback ever. Tampa Bay's never had one. One. New England cold weather. Tampa September October. You're playing in an outdoor Saana, believe me. I've done live shot from that stadium. Boston's an academic hub. I'll say this nicely Tampa is a strip club and I'll leave it at that. No shot intended. We. Just do the facts here. New. England's got six super bowl banners an end zone. Tampa, Bay has a pirate ship. These are the opposite the. If this was not football, it would be a midlife crisis. For Tom Brady. He's going to be productive. Is He? GonNa win. I don't know he'll win more than last year, but winning in the NFL has details. Production is in details. Houston isn't very detail oriented. They score a bunch appoints the Pittsburgh. steelers big, Ben are not terribly efficient. They're not great with the details. They score a bunch of points winning in the NFL is detailed special teams. Few penalties don't turn it over good coaching. New. England does not have the most talent. Does anybody think over the last ten years? They've been top two or three and overall talent. I do not. I do not. I thought that team. They beat that charger team. Two years ago, they beat in the playoffs by forty out of the chargers had more players. Sort of the pro bowl voters. Okay so Tom Brady is going to be productive, but he is going to the opposite of what what he has been. He has been in a frugal, efficient, cerebral buttoned-down. Every paper picked up in the hallway franchise Tampa Bay is loose, not saying they're not smart, but it's loose and talented and inefficient, and they take big swings, and it's a different environment. It's not an academic Hob- like Boston is with fifty one universities where the Celtics compete against the red sox. They've always been ahead of the curve on analytics. The Celtics have the Red Sox have. The Patriots have two different culture I think Tom's going to like it. You know it's it's again. You're dating somebody. That's more fun to goes to bed late stays up I. Think you'll like it. The question is. Will he become frustrated with it? Will there be times when he's like. We, just lost twenty, seven, twenty six, because we had extra penalties and two of our guys couldn't remember a play. Remember this to. The virus means no ta no camps. No workout Tom Lives for that this is this is not only is it a weird pendulum swing New England. To Tampa culturally organizationally. But the virus is shutting down all the workouts see you can have to do some of this on the fly. This will be the least prepared Tom. Brady has ever been as a quarterback and he thrives on details. You remember the documentary Tom Versus time. You remember that. smirked when he said God, I could just sit and watch this all day. He's drinking a lean. SMOOTHIE! As he's in pajamas. He developed asleep longer as he's made of Kale as he's eating vegetable ice cream. He's all about the details. Tampa has not been, and they're not going to massively change overnight I I just read something. This morning Tampa still can't get over the fact Tom's. They're like people in late. WHO, Brady's GONNA. Wear Pewter. He's GonNa wear orange so yeah. It is a is a big swing. It is a big swing. He'll be productive. That I, don't doubt. Todd will be productive. Really win a bunch of games. You're going against Sean. Payton you got drew brees twice year. Matt Ryan twice a year I. Think the Falconer well. Ron Teddy Bridgewater by the way is now individual Carolina unlike Cam. He doesn't make mistakes. So you get a beat teams, they're not going to beat themselves Ryan and beat himself. Sean Payton and breeze don't be themselves teddy. Bridgewater and beat himself Tampa. Historically beat itself has games one? Screwed up be sure to catch live editions of the heard Weekdays at noon eastern nine am Pacific so Carolina is basically cutting the cord with Cam Newton of never been a huge fan. A Cam I am a big fan of Teddy Bridgewater Bridgewater is now going to sign a contract three years incredibly reasonable money. Cam Newton fans are are interesting. They remind me of people who are in politics, really embedded into politics. You can give them facts, and they just don't care. People get so embedded liberal conservative. It doesn't matter what you tell them. They don't want to hear it. They. Want affirmation. They don't really want information cam fans more than any fan base in the country. Want this camps average? Cam is a career fifty nine percent completion percentage that's below average passer rating eighty-six average. He's an average player who had one great year. That it. Talented yeah, big strong, yeah, handsome! Yeah model! Yes, styles! Yeah, good not really. Not Really. I hate to break it to you well. He didn't have enough support stop. Ron Rivera was out of work for as long as the phone call took for Washington to pay him. Millions great well, just say good coach got to Super Bowl. Offensive Line's CAM had multiple pro bowlers including trae Turner who just got traded to the chargers? Defense. Mostly top ten Ron Rivera. Running backs, he had three different good ones Diangelo Williams Jonathan Stewart Christian McCaffrey Wide Receiver Steve Smith Hall of Famer. Tight End Greg Olsen. I don't WanNa. Hear. He didn't have helped by the way this offense with Teddy. Bridgewater is going to score tunnel points. He wasn't efficient. That's a CAM issue. Since his MVP, ear, five hundred quarterback was sixty five TV's and forty four picks. Well he runs around. That used to be unique now. He's not even the best at that. He average. He's an average quarterback. who had a great year? You can find kickers. You can find receivers you can. You can find running backs who have a great year but I don't want to hear that he didn't have support. How many hall of fame, running backs and wide receivers has Aaron? Rodgers had. Named the great defense is Aaron. Rodgers had Aaron Rogers. Is had less help defensively than CAM. And I would say less running back help than CAM. Well Mike McCarthy you sure he's better than Rivera all. My sources say coin flip lot of them like Ron Rivera more than might McCarthy. McCarthy's had better quarterbacks. So. Cams never had back to back winning seasons, and I've always felt that really defines him. Is that cameras. Inconsistent cameras distracted cameras a lot of interests and it's not that he I. I've said this talent is indisputable. But to be great year after year after year doesn't matter if you're a quarterback salesperson unique to be emotionally, consistent and cam is not a cams all over the map. cavs got a lot more issues behind the scenes. Anybody wants to talk about. This is a career passer rating guy of eighty-six. They're going to be better offensively with Teddy. Bridgewater. We all get caught up an arm and size. That's not what this leagues about. This league is overwhelmingly about. Don't make a ton of mistakes. Be Good on third down. Be Above average the line of Scrimmage Lotta. Guys winning super bowls that don't have cannons for arms. Jared Goff got to a super bowl. It's not a world class athlete. He lost a Tom, Brady and that Super Bowl, not a world class athlete. Tom Brady Lost Nick foles in a super bowl neither is a world class athlete. Is Jimmy Garoppolo World Class Athlete. Last four or five super bowls. We've had one world class athlete. Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl. The other thing is Matt rule is the new coach. Of Carolina and Matt Rule is all about creating cultures. That's his stamp. Right like at Baylor. He's a culture creator. What he's telling you with Cam I don't want him to be any part of my culture. I, know interest can be part of my culture. I'm going to create a different culture and I like Teddy Bridgewater as a fit, and you know people say calling you don't like Cam. Carolina doesn't like him. They signed another quarterback and he's in stolen team. Meaning they may just cut him. Minority say goodbye to him. They don't like him and they know more about it than I do. One more heard the heard streams twenty four hours a day seven days a week within the iheartradio APP search her to listen live or on-demand. Like as far as New England. We know Tom Brady is going to a very very talented. By the way, the buccaneers defense last year with Todd Bowles, who I always liked, he's a better coordinator than head. Coach was top ten in the NFL inefficiency Tampa Bay's GonNa. Win Some Games and be productive. Are they a playoff team in the crowded NFC? It's not an organization that historically has been buttoned-down in terms of details though they've had a ton of talent I think Tom Swings that pendulum a little bit they become a little more efficient, if not a lot more efficient, but it is a division where it's kind kinda hard to you know. You got you got twice a year breeze twice a year now bridgewater twice a year. Matt Ryan guys that don't beat themselves. These are going to be tight tight games. It's going to be probably the strongest quarterback division in the NFL in terms of efficiency between breeze and Bridgewater and Brady and Matt Ryan no steps not a lot of picks lot of smart dudes. Belichick has a plan because he's smart and always has a plan. I just saw this morning he. LET ANOTHER DEFENSIVE PLAYER GO! That's four total defensive players. He's let go van Noy Jamie Collins Doron. Good player rotational player sometimes starters gone to Detroit. He's done a couple of solids for Detroit. His Buddy Matt Patricia Brian Flora's coach Miami his buddy. I think they have a planet starting Jarret, Stidham. Tom Brady is already thirteen million on the cap this year, and not there so if you played an Andy Dalton. If you paid any Dalton twenty million. That's thirty three million dollar quarterback. I don't think he wants to do that. I don't believe that smart people that always have a plan. Suddenly you're off guard. They didn't make an offer to Tom. They didn't pursue Tom. They haven't pursued weapons. This feels like to me will start Jarrett. Stidham. We'll go five and eleven. Maybe six and ten put ourselves in the top ten in the draft. We built up a lot of equity. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they think they're gonNA. Win The super bowl. Look at the roster. Look at what they're doing seems to me. They're getting. Younger they're a little old. It looks like they're getting younger and less expensive. They'RE GONNA pay very few People Stefan Gilmore. They're gonNA. Pay Their ticker. They're gonNA. Pay Joe. Tony Alignment Pay, not many other people, certainly not the quarterback position. AM. I surprised that Tom. Brady left I said this yesterday when I got a call thirty minutes into the show that he was going at Tampa Bay we broke that story about six hours before your typical NFL guys. I was surprised it was Tampa. I was shocked. I was surprised. He left England, but never forget. Superstars Kevin Durant Dynasty why? What did we find out why later? Draymond green moment. And, he didn't feel the organization. Addressed Draymond Green. Why did Lebron leave Cleveland a second time. Lebron felt the organization didn't listen to him. They traded Kyrie Irving Lebron said do not who cares if he wants to go, do not trade. Tom Brady. The organization wouldn't listen to him I need weapons. These Alpha males. They want to be treated differently and if they've won titles for you. Lebron Cleveland Durant Golden State and Brady New England. Sometimes when they say stuff, listen to them. They deserve to get baby too little. Durant forgot did not forget the draymond situation he. Ignored it and he played through it, and he played nice, but he didn't forget and Lebron kept trying hard and played really well post Kyrie, but he never forgot and Brady weapons. He's wanted him I read a story. Albert Breyer. Said this morning listen. Brady grew older. Had kids found business interests outside of football and May to some degree have been done being dealt with as if he was a long snapper. I also think that Jimmy Garoppolo thing I wanNA play a bite, TJ, Hirschman Zodda had predicted on our show Brady zero percent chance he's coming back. Let's be honest about it Tom. Rela check wanted to replace him a couple of years ago. And much like durant with Golden State or Lebron KYRI IN CLEVELAND. Tomei play Nice but Tom knows two years ago. You try to get rid of me. For a guy that I think I'm still better than here's T J on. That's the reason Tom Left I. Look at the Jimmy G.. Situation where Bella check was basically he was gone. Lawyer my lawyer. Ritchie warm, he was get rid of him when he could still play. and. Bob, kraft, said no, no, no, you're not doing this, so they got rid of Jimmy. I don't believe Brady could ever get over that past. That's like your wife GonNa date another man. Okay are you okay with it? Oh, I'm gonNA stay with you. I didn't know he had a girlfriend like who's going to go for that as Brady had to put up with it. And now that he can leave, he's GonNa Leave I. Mean Michael Jordan's Hall of fame speech He Criticizes High School Coach. Alpha males may play nice and play through it, but don't forget and maybe that was the reason. Guys, it's bobby bones host the bobby bones show, and I'm pretty much sleep because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple hours later. I get all my friends together. We get into a room and we do a radio show. Share allies. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world we possibly can, and we look through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country artists are always stopping by the hang out and share their lives and music to. Wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point seven, W. MC q in Washington DC, or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio. APP, be sure to catch live additions of the heard weekdays at noon, eastern nine am Pacific on Fox sports radio F. s one and the iheartradio APP Chris Simms worked for NBC sports. He is a former buck. He reported over the last weekend. He said Hey Brady's down the bucks and the Patriots and the also reported the niners are out. He is good friends with Kyle Shanahan. And so Chris joining us on a pretty frenetic week. Let me. Start first of all Chris. Thanks for coming on I. Appreciate this Anytime Man Hey. Colin you the man I enjoy listening to you I. Watch you all the time and. Anytime I get a chance earned free. I'm down to come on with you, so you? I cover the bucks for two years. I thought I thought it was well run and smart. It was a little loose, but I I always thought there were smart people in the front office I covered. Dungy and I covered Sam wash. This is the one franchise in America. That can say you know we just. We just have never had a superstar quarterback, right? Your experience there. How does Tom and that attention to detail? How does it fit in Tampa in your opinion? Yeah, well, I mean that's going to be a little bit of a culture shock. I mean I'm sure he's going to be a little bit like. Hey, even though I'm I'm used to obsessive compulsive cross every T. Dot every I, you know type of coaches, and not to say that you know the Tampa Bay buccaneers and Bruce Arians aren't that way but come on I mean? Mean we know that Bill Belichick leads the history of football and that departments and what he's going to be quite that to your point to what you said I mean I. Think it's a city that starving for this type of player. When I was there and lost my spleen, not long after that you might remember that we were very into the Brett farve chase there before he ended up picking the The New York jets that year, so this is a franchise in. In the Glazers, who I think is really welcoming. This opportunity and yeah, we'll be as buttoned up as perfect New England. No nobody is that way, but I do think that Tom Brady going GonNa get a lot of things that he didn't get in New England with Tampa, and that is a head coach. It's GonNa show a little affection and respect, and maybe more a little more dialogue about game plan, and what to do, and how he feels, and all those things that I'm. I'm sure really appealed to Tom Brady. Let alone the team and the offense have potential with him because Brady can still throw the ball at a very very high level. His arm is still towards the top of football. As far as arm, strength is concerned I never thought the glomming I. Liked Blake Glazer kids. He's obviously in terms of wealth. He's got some ownership over in the UK with a English premier league team. Did you like the Glazers? Did you find? Find them willing to spend money and easy to talk to and the right kind of can't win in this with a bad ownership group. How did you feel they were as owners? Oh, I think the world of the Glazer family I mean first off. They have a great human human humanity side to them. They care about their coaches and the people in the organization as people They really show that with me with my spleen. My issues and you know they're they're invested there in. In that building a lot are and You know they care about their Tampa? Bay, buccaneers, and they'll they'll stick their nose in, but I think just the right amount you know to where they let the coaches and the people they hired. Run the organization, but they certainly have a good feel of what's going on, and they're not scared to spend money as we're seeing right here with this I mean. This is pretty awesome, and then the franchise tag Shaquille Barrett and getting back. Back J. p. p. and everything like that Tampa, even before Brady sign there one of those teams where you know a little asterisk next to to say ooh watch out, they could be very good next year, and of course now. This makes you feel a little bit more confident in saying that I'm a Todd Bowles Fan as a coordinator. You I've said this before Al. Gore was a great vice president. You know maybe not the president. There are guys that are built to be. Be Vice. President I think Bowles is a great defensive coordinator. Definitely I'm with you creative, and I think you know you gotta be that way this day and age the day and age of like Oh we're just gonNA line up and play to defenses, and we're going to be sound and we mess up, you know I just think that's over. Have you're not able to conform and change a week to week? Basis like we've Seen New England do for the past twenty years and. That's right. They've dominated the League for twenty years then I. Just think you're crazy so i. do like that aspect of special front seven in Tampa I mean special those two linebackers. They got you know Levante David and D- the kid from you know. I'm blanking on his name from Lsu Devon White, and then of course the defense align. They have some young upcoming superstars in the secondary so I think yes, those are things that had to appeal to Tom Brady. Let alone Whoa Mike. Evans Chris Godwin to really good tight end to. Write in a creative offense of mines, areas and left which I think they'll address one of their tackle spots. Get a running back and they're ready to roll I, think it's a real football team. Now New England we we. We've used this analogy several times. Golden State wins a bunch of games. They have equity with our fans, so they can reboot they don't need. The fans will fill the stadium several years after Michael. Jordan had his six titles. New England. My guess is they go, Jared Stidham they've already given up on four defensive players get younger. They get cheaper and they kind of reboot for a year. I, don't I do think there is a big big drop-off i? Don't like their weapons at all I have no idea what was. Is it possible, not tanking, but that Bella check saying this is a year. We get rid of some money. We get younger. It take complete reboot year, and then we get in the top eight or nine of the draft next year and get one of these quarterbacks well. Yeah, I think that's very real. I mean that's all it is. Yeah, the they're retooling now. You Know New England special. I mean they can retooling. Retooling rebuild and still make it to the playoffs. You know I'm never going to count them out here. I'm really not. There's still a lot of quality football players coaching staff that I just think the world. Of Yeah. You know to me on the outside. Looking in I know for for a fact that they love. Jared stood them. Are they willing to roll with him? You know right now and you're two of. of His career without him, playing I'm not so sure about that I. Still I still wouldn't hold wrote. Rule Out maybe Andy Dalton ending up in New England. I really wouldn't so we'll see how that shakes out, but nonetheless I do think yes new England isn't a little era here of retooling refurbishing their football team to get back at you know a level where used to seeing them at, and they're not quite. Quite there yet, but you know the the. They'll get there I know that and they're all about value signings as we know Colin like the Mir bird wide receiver. Nobody's really GonNa know that, but you know. They signed him from Arizona last year. Pretty good player who has potential to be something you know that's how they play football and I certainly am not counting them out yet. By the way I had A. I'll just say this I. had a very prominent NFL person. Tell me yesterday. Yeah, that it was brief but Jimmy G.. You could have made a call to San Francisco. They would've at least listened to the phone. Call this person said. We heard about it. You said you were the first one that said there's a rumor out there with the niners now officially done I was told yesterday right even though I didn't understand it that Garoppolo. If not on the market, they would have listened to calls. Can you give us some clarity now now that it appears you know Brady's in Tampa Garoppolo is going to be the guy. Yeah, sure no, you know I. Knew a lot really about the situation and you know from both sides from all angles. You know. Yeah, you know you said I I. Do Know Kyle Shanahan of course you know he's. He calls me. Johnny media now so. Me Okay. That's what he calls me so I don't get much information for Kyle Shanahan anymore and really try to stay out of those combos a lot of the time but I knew some people that were connected to Brady where I had to feel the situation. You know I know some people in New England. As well I do think the Brady to San Francisco thing was a very real possibility yeah I. Think I know Brady. Brady wanted it. You know I do think the forty niners from my understanding tossed around the idea and I think that's where people you know. Maybe missed that conversation a little bit, and they just thought Oh. Yeah Brady to forty niners. They just GonNa do that. Swap out Jimmy Jane. No you know I think a big part of that was if you were GonNa make that move for a forty three year old quarterback, who? You know leaves after one year just says okay. I'm too old. It's over. You GotTa get a respectable trade offer for Jimmy. Garoppolo to I think people are missing that piece of the puzzle. You just going to swap out you know I know Brady's the goat for Jimmy, Garoppolo who's just starting to hit the prime of his career. Just say Oh. We'll just make an even swap and that's it. you know I think a big factor would that would be the forty niners would have to have an offer and acquire some assets to go along with it to move on from. Jimmy Jacobs. There is great risk at signing a quarterback who's forty three years old, and maybe only plays one or two more years, or you know polls, the calf muscle you know and we to, because he is forty three and we go damn it. Oh, well. Yeah, what did you expect? He's forty-three. Those type of things happen so I do think that was a very big part of that conversation for sure, and that's what I was told yesterday that. Were suitors I mean. Let's you you and I both figure them out. chargers probably would have called. I would think so airline up probably would have called you know. I Chicago maybe call so I I think I I guess my point is. There was more to it than I gave it credit for, and you're on. You're on the front of this Johnny Media and congratulations. Thank you calling media I appreciate. Of finally. It is. Basketball's changed that used to be. It was about centers now. You can't have a second guy in the court. That can't shoot a three Clint Cappella Houston. No value because Westbrook can't shoot at three became too in the NFL. Accuracy and mobility matter the world's changing pocket quarterbacks I. Always say this Jacobson would have been the top quarterback prospect eight years ago now now he's probably number five. He's Kinda. FLACCO wish I look at Cam Newton. I don't see a huge marketplace I know I don't see I mean in journey, inaccurate drama older. I! What is Chicago Bulls so I know? What's the marketplace for Cam? I've been saying this. I don't see it would know it. I listened to their. There's certainly risk because there's no doubt about that and especially right now with the fact that teams can't. Do you know medical check INS checkups on guys. That's really gonNA. Throw a wrench into Cam Newton. You know listen I. Don't know the particulars of what happened to. To Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers, but just as it looks right now. Yeah I. Mean it kind of seems like Carolina. Did him dirty. I mean Oh. Hey, all the quarterback seats are full Hey, now you can go. See Sika trade well, okay, great I mean there's there you know up until an hour ago, there was only two teams Anita quarterback, and you just said it. The bears filled filled that hole. So now is is the CHARGERS GONNA play? You know I don't know I. Don't know I just it feels like they solve their guard and left tackle spot. It feels like they're getting ready. To put somebody in that spot like Justin. Herbert, they don't WanNa. Get dinged up right. You know that's what that BELUGAS got. Maybe one or two years left what they're trying to do. It feels like to me is we're going to get a young guy? The one thing we don't want him to get his butt kicked physically and lose confidence and makes sense. I mean you know I I have? Have no problem with that I I certainly know. Justin Herbert I. Just I've been studying him I. mean he's a special talent. He's a top ten pick. In my opinion, there's no doubt about that so if they want to go the route and and play with tyrod Taylor for a year. Hey, that's fine. I do think Cam Newton fits the style in which they wanNA play. I mean Anthony Lynn. Lynn being an ex running back them having a top five defense in football. Hey, you mentioned cam. Newton is not the type of guy that we think is going to go like thirty five or forty two. When you're gonNA, drop them back and he's just GONNA wheel and deal all game long. No, but he can play that style of football ball control. Hey, we ran the ball. Hey, cam you. You run the ball. Okay, you haven't thrown the ball and a few plays, but doesn't matter your Cam Newton just muscle in some twenty yard in cut in there. He is capable of doing that. That's what he's been doing. So you know the potential Cam Newton excites me. The chargers do need know billboard material there. Yes, you know, and that's the one thing I do. Look at it but I. that. You Know You're right Colin I. Don't know where he ends with point John. You know it makes me think Chris I know. Anthony Lynn wants to move the pocket, but. I know that and I know Spanos has said we need to sell tickets. I wonder if because there's no market for Cam. You're going to get him in a value and you draft Jordan. Love Okay and you say Okay Cam two year deal, we're GONNA SIT Jordan for two years. You both have similar styles now. That would make sense to me. Because Jordan love is gone a little Cam, I don't think he's quite as gifted, but now that that would be interesting so I could could solve in your opinion. I could solve the billboard problem right I get a good number on Cam, right and get the next cam that that is interesting, don't. Doubt some possibility there, I, it does, and of course you have a defense and a lot of things on your team that you like to where you go you, you can win now. Yes so that that I look at that, and you know the big thing again with Cam Newton is just going to be the medical checkup, and how that all plays out? Because? Yeah, you know you said it. You're right. He's thirty years old. He's been beat up. He's played the position in a style in a way that we really never seen a quarterback play. That way so does it catch up to them I think that's the fear. I would say no, not yet. You know. I would say that we're going to we. We're still going to see a few good years from Cam Newton before. This is all said and done, and the big thing is. Is like you just said to I. Mean you're not going to have to trade much to get actually maybe nothing now? There's GonNa be no competition. They've gone all in with Teddy Bridgewater. They've cornered himself there so I. 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Hour 2: Pressure on Payton?

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Hour 2: Pressure on Payton?

"G santi willan suba podcast getting on the browns train and why not got baker mayfield. He's the guy got myles garrett. You paid to be the guy now. You've got to debut on cloudy. He's the newest guy it's keyshawn. Jay will zubin presented by progressive insurance. All of our guests on the goodyear highland big story in sports this morning no hitter last night by the chicago. White sox against the cleveland indians. But off the top here cleveland. Football team making some news this morning. Bard is in project william jail. Be back next week. So it's great to have barred and key here one of the great things about cloudy signing is this is just another piece for their young head coach. Kevin stefanski was the. Nfl's coach of the year this past season dealt with a ton of adversity member. He got covid. Mr playoff game. All these crazy things happened so now. The question is moving forward. I don't think the answer to this. Question is too fancy. He's moving in the opposite direction of this question simply put which coach has the most pressure on him in the nfl. This coming season key. You and i were talking about this before. I want you to unveil to the audience just who this person is. And then i'm just going to give you one date to remember. Just tell me who you think. This is tell the audience. I'm going to give you one date and then you can go into. Why think is sean payton. And not and not fire but pressure okay. So we'll get into it in one second february seventh twenty ten february seventh twenty ten. That was the day the saints won their one and only super bowl. That is more than a decade ago. And i know the minneapolis miracle happened. I know nicole. Roby coleman happiness The game against the vikings the following year they lost in overtime kirk cousins. First playoff win. That's a tremendously difficult triple heartbreak. Last three seasons ended. But the bottom line is this is a what have you done for me lately business. And yes the saints. Have been on the cusp. But keyed has been now going on eleven years and got shot a great coach as one of my good friends in it. But it's the pressure it's the pressure that comes to bear when you you mitch and that date ten plus years since they won the super bowl having even gotten back to to lose. They've gotten back in a lot of things have gotten in the way right. I mean obviously you look at drew. Brees he's gotten older a little bit banged up. They get the minnesota miracle the ram situa- i mean all of those sorts of things they lose. They lose they lose they lose. They missed the playoffs. Then you've got the almost called the spy gate but whatever whatever bounty get. You had all of this stuff going on. He's still regarded as one of the highly regarded as one of the top coaches in the national football league. But the clock is ticking. Right now you're starting with a new quarterback all assume as james winston going to beat autism hill. That's what we assume you got all these weapons. You still going to have back. Healthy michael thomas and he got alvin kamara and you got retooled defense to a degree. You got some pieces to work with now. It's time to deliver because if you don't deliver you fall into that category. Will you want all those games and did all of these sort of things because if you have any dip at all missed. The playoffs become a wild corn on the row. People are now going to start to look at you as here we go. We couldn't win with brees. was it really all breeds. That was putting ball the number taking them to the playoffs every year. You start getting into that sort of muddy water. And i don't think you know i think they're going to be okay but it's a lot of pressure on shine to get it done because he's gonna eventually run out of time. Andy andy reid. If philadelphia successful every year playoffs playoffs playoffs playoffs. And then it was just like man we gotta do something different and they did it and they did it and he went on and now he's you know can't see jesus another story now. Maybe this is sort of the the way. It is bought for champagne in new orleans. Maybe at some point it's like you know what and he goes on to. Arizona for instance in now airs ona's great franchise for the next ten years champagnes. The best thing that ever happened to new orleans. He provided stability to instate unstable organization. Right whenever the eight you'd think about the creamsicle. But yeah exactly so like. He's provided them respect ability and he's made a respectable. He's made them a functional organization. Where people wanna go there you know you talk about. You know those black holes used to be you know the saints used to be cleveland. used to be thank. Yeah bengals or go out to oakland right. It's like where you go where you still for a couple of years and you graph money your way out you rob without the mask right. You know what. I'm saying. But i think the coach has the most is bill belichick and i know listen. He's a hall of fame quarterback but the expectation hold fame coach. I play quarterback. Who did he do that. We would think so right. We would think it. It's all his i. It's all because of him while they want. And not the guy. That's down in tampa winning super bowls and stacking on chips. But what. I'm saying is like the expectations in boston are so hot and those fans easily. Forget what have you done. It's like you have you done for me lately. The tone was set by robert kraft. And what he said robert kraft. We gotta find a answer at the quarterback position. And we're gonna drive the well so now you look at bill belichick. He went out. He spent a lot of money and free agency. You know that's something that's not typical. That's not using their forte. To go out and spend that type of money to get a a roster full of talat because it was. It didn't have the town because he had missed in so many drafts so like it. He's telling you right now that he's trying to be aggressive and he understands that he wants to get back to winning right now but he still he can get all these pieces. We've all been rousers. That had great players in every position. But if you don't have the answer at the quarterback position you're you're you're fighting left hand you're fighting you know the way you can be. And if they don't find an answer in this draft right for the future but the future especially if they take one and then now they out of the running for trading for one then you know the pressure is going to be only because the louder lie. That noise is loud down in tampa and especially if time runs it back. Then you talk about that whole narrative about who was more responsible for you know. Bill is great is a great coach arguably the greatest of all time in all sports but listen. He has a lot of pressure on them and the tone set his own. Yeah see i. I don't think there's no pressure on him. I think when you look at sean payton you now. You're taking a chance on james winston. Your the quarterback fixer. You done amazing jobs. We getting quarterbacks and studying whether it was tony romo whether it was drew. Brees and saying you know what i understand. Miami doesn't want him. We want him and the rest is history hall of fame career and now you got a swiss army knife with tastes hill but when everybody strong jameis winston in the trash you picked him up dusted him off cleaned him up. Now you gotta get the most out of him because the rest of your team is set. You need to get something out of their quarterback spot so you could continue to make the playoffs winning division and try and push to get to the next super bowl. And i think it's not a fight. I'm not saying fire. I'm saying pressure stress. I'm talking about staying up all night trying to figure out how to get to the next level. Not if he doesn't win this year they're getting ready to get rid of him. So i want to be clear so people who are listening understand that. We're not talking about firing. We're talking about pressure because bill belichick is not getting fired but right but at all and we'll see but i think but this thing the same thing exact same thing you just said about new orleans you say about that right you can talk about. They took a brun retread on a quarterback that was wants to. Mvp the only difference is the expectations in new england. It truly is super bowl or bus. I think the saints are just happy. Nonsense does not be the laughing. Stock in buffalo has came in passed them and they can't catch them at the spending all this money free agency. They're bills going to have to explain his a why he can't get this team back out of the promised land. I don't think buffalo's past them. Not whether what they wanted to visit right and division they won the division new england had them on the roads. Cam whole the ball. Don't fumble is a different game. Yeah but just saying he passed. But if that new england team would have got to the playoffs. Boss i think right now. You'll the team that you know everybody's anticipating to take that next step to be. The team that can really compete with kansas city in the afc is the buffalo bills and they haven't disappointed in what they've done in his own. The ryan all say is. I'm not counting that dude. I understand i get what you're saying and i get a little jetty and you were talking about the buffalo bills. I hate them. I understand you play for the ravens. You play for the jets. And i know your personal feelings toward the pats when the bills too late. The bills to write no right. Why so serious but you you got some different with the pats november the same way about pittsburgh so saying no what i'm saying. Man you look at this roster what. He's a simple. He spent a lot of mind. If you spend all that money and all these guys have opted out. Last year they come back and they disappoint or what. What if but he's sweating the monday finish third in their job. Magin the money. They're not spending the money bar with the anticipation that they're gonna fold no support because he identify what he needed to make the team. Better got everything you need it. Yes and if you come in third place and i know that like uncontroversial but if you come in third place behind miami who's much improved in behind buffalo. They you don't think it's going to be some pressure like what the hell we doing. Not anticipating themselves is coming in third. I know that they were what about two games. Nine seven and nine. They could won ten games. Easy in could have lost to a dead matter. You could say that about a lot of teams. But i'm just saying based on so you think the trash. They was dealing with last year on their roster. Those players. they could've won ten games easy with that right but they also when you look at their current roster and all the talent they have at the only part that you can say. They're deficient is at the quarterback position you can say they have the say argue. They got one of the best rosters in football right now but they may have the third best quarterback in the division but for whatever reason they feel different about their quarterback then a lot of other. Don't know what eddie. And that's why they draft a quarterback in the first. I don't know if they dry. I don't know that. Yeah yeah they drive you. Go away for future. Tell me oh. May i know. It'd be thirtieth. Actually tell me. On april thirtieth. They draft quarterback. I'm a. I'm a. I'm out to tech because i won't be here. That'd be the morning after the draft. Keyshawn jalen zubin presented by progressive insurance progressive. Homequote explorer is changing. The way you buy home insurance now you can go online and get a custom. Kotei time and money learn more at progresive dot com on the way justin feels had his second pro day yesterday and finally not finally but most importantly got the endorsement. He absolutely positively had to have. That's next keyshawn. Jay zubin with keyshawn barton zubin in the house this morning on. Espn radio and espn app. Do own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy. Bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com today. That's geico dot com zone. Jay williams zubay the podcast kiwi looking at what he got carl's talking to him. Well i'll shanahan hand is talking to justin feels breaking news. They're getting some leaked video because they say it wasn't open. We didn't get to see it. There must have been his second pro yesterday. There was much concern because when he had his first pro day. The entire forty niners contingent. They gave up everything to move up to three at jones's pro day john lynch and kyle shanahan justin feels said. Let me get a second pro day. Shanahan said i'm going to be there. There was the visual evidence. I'm glad you interpret reiki. Show what was what was he saying. Don't worry about it everything will be okay bomb say that no you just said everything will be okay. Just keep working young man. You're doing fine but it's the small zubin right. It's the look it's the smile it's or you look down. You'll be my book. You know looked at him. And say here you flip on that clear. Exactly what we're looking for at three spot perhaps. So that's the current. Ohio state quarterback future first round draft former. Ohio state quarterback kirk herbstreet last night with scott van pelt. Essentially saying you may have heard marcus spears say. There could be a stigma against ohio state. Quarterbacks but head coach ryan day is saying whether or not that's true whether to stereotype whatever this guy. My guy fields ready to break out of the mold. I know ryan day really well. I knew ryan day when he had to wayne haskins. And i know how ryan felt about dwayne haskins ability. I know he felt he needed another year. Not just to come back and re defenses just another year to mature and grow. And i think now looking back at it you can see why and i know this year that he feels very strongly about the commitment and the leadership and the playmaking ability and just the overall package of what justin fields has to offer the nfl. Your calls in just a second. You guys are lined up ready to talk about. Justin feels key. Your thought big second pro day for him yesterday. The visual evidence to prove it with shannahan house. It's great for him to get out there. Second time around. And i understand what marc spears is talking about with the ohio. State quarterback doesn't matter whether the quarterback is black or white. Okay is just so happened here in recent history in the years. It's been run on black. Quarterbacks out of ohio state in urban meyer system. This system is a little bit different though than trestle in urban meyer. Those quarterbacks that played for those guys were not. Nfl so to speak read. They were college football system quarterbacks because that is how they won state when you look at day system and you look at the wayne haskins dwayne haskins could have been pro ready. He was only the starting quarterback for one year. Just feels been in the system now too. There's different principles. He's asked to throw big time. Pro football passes the routes that the receivers are running or combination routes that or using the pros different than urban meyer system and trestle system way different so i think when you look adjusted feels that you really get to break things down. He's going to be ready at some point for the national football league. And i can't see where shanahan and john lynch kyle shanahan and john lynch moved up to number three not to take trae or justin feels who who gives them in today's nfl. Wayne more options than mac jones. And i understand. This is how these things go. You build it up you build it up and then all of a sudden. There's a shocker. Come draft night. Oh my god. Can you believe they took him when everybody. All the suspense says. Mac jones guy well to me looking at that clip of justin fields talking to kyle shanahan looked like a love fest Just i don't know what that means. It just looks like a love it. Your calls after bart got nothing. I want to get to the call. Okay cordial straight to the call. All right always notice okay. Corey and charlotte's got something to say to bar when she got cory. Say what you to and bar. I totally disagree with you. You said but it's personal. Better check this show you. It's no pressure He had a seventy nine teen still had a team scoring defense key. Keys point three games. We would have been ten. Ten in ticks. Like like with that roster. Come i may me coach in the nfl right now with the pass roster last year they would even want seven-game cal shanahan. He had a bunch of injuries auber roster and they still thirsty and quarterback and he still wanted what six games. But you talk about like what i'm saying. Is depression expectations. In new england. They are high. They have expectations like no other team. Because they are dynasty but when dynasty has over. What do you do after that so we asked pressure. That's why he went on and spent all this money. Where i think you win smith all that money it was a mission that he had built a bad rosser. That's why tom brady left me. And listen you making me. Do you wanna make chicken salad out of chicken. You know what so. That's what he does. I wanna keep my show bart okay this. I held it down this year. What i'm saying. So listen he he he has to figure it out so listen so like you say that build is under pressure. Then just forget all about what Craft comments next. Call's got you real quick. You're right the forty niners did finish six ten to keys point even if the pats had finished with ten wins just a reminder how tough the afc was last year you needed eleven to get into the playoffs but they easily could have been ten win. Football team back to the calls is key wants allen. Wisconsin you're on. Espn radio ohio. Hey how's it going good. Listen up this is back to something that the keyshawn shit a while ago. When you talk about quarterback and what they're able to do you also have to look at two. Did they do it against. So when you're talking about just in fields this guy has been producing at a high level period because of the competition that you're dealing with in the big ten when you're talking about michigan michigan state ohio. I mean come on. Wisconsin iowa when you look at trevor lawns and we want to say. He's next generation or office. And that you better believe. And i'll call back afterwards. Because justin feels might be the first in the second quarter back taking because his versatility. And what these coaches are going to already see in raw talent that he has they can always tweak these other things but this guy is ready with the help and the right type of coaching to be just as effective of not more than any quarterback coming out because he's prime time ready because that's the pressure he's been under bush whole career. He certainly played in big time college. Football there's no question about it. He's playing with the likes of the clemson's and the alabama's and done well michigan's whoever the big ten conference throws at him the defenses. Whatever that may be but you could see that he is going to be a talented Quarterback if he gets the right it's all about the right system in the right coaches if it may be a blessing for him before if justin feels goals to some sort of defensive minded coach that really doesn't put any emphasis on offense and can't figure it out in he may just. He may be josh freeman. Just one of those type of deal but when you go to somebody potentially like a kyle shanahan who spends nothing but time on understanding the offense the quarterback position who really gets it then you can have a successful career in the nfl. But in i think he will. I honestly think he will. I don't know why all of a sudden people have him rated lord and some of these other quarterbacks between the end of the season and now it just makes zero sense and then a false narrative about his work ethic and some of the other things that's always put out there about these young players coming out in the league just to try to get their stock drop. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't justin feels is from outside of the atlanta area paul's in atlanta and he's on. Espn radio this morning. Hi paul hey how you doing. What's up all right. Guys think is gonna be the number third question. I think it'd be filled. I think it'd be field. But i think if i don't know how atlanta passes on him with having a secession plan for matty ice and knowing that author smith is gonna want his quarterback he can hitch his wagon to as well so i don't see him fall in of the top four but i guess the question is who who is The forty niners. It's gonna take three. I mean that's that's that's what we don't know. I think that's what the drive start. Because i think it's a it'd be a run of teams that are going to try to move up. If they find that fields is dropping. Pass three so so. Let me say this. If atlanta sitting at four they need a quarterback in matt ryan is there and they want to move on from matt ryan in two years or whatever or they taken mack jones. If for some reason who is who is at three before san francisco miami. So miami was at three. If miami decided to quarterbacks going for one into in miami decided to do whatever take a lime in a tied into pits wherever at four. You still got those three quarterbacks on the board was miami going to take mack jones. Unlikely wyan the halewood. San francisco move up in front of atlanta to draft mack jones. They don't have a exactly. So we'll see the tray lance or justin fields because while in atlanta take mack jones. I'm just. I'm just trying to connect the dots now. Absolutely i mean. I think you're right on cue. I think i believe that. But listen when you hear all the experts every once in a while somebody goes full tropic thunder man. You remember trubisky was taking you remember. Jake locker was taking remember. pong was taking. We have these head scratchers. I hold them and they took. Who like every once in a while you have somebody that thinks that the genius and they see something that nobody else sees and they found the next. Tom brady right because nobody saw tom. Brady coming right so you know. Everyone's name some real bitter nasty taste in my mouth or some of them. Quarter all surprises right. I mean you that with jake. Locker really wasn't surprised because he he shows athleticism and he has some stuff he he went away the whole. Yeah he wasn't a surprise us a good quarterback in washington. He was an nfl tied guy but some of the mother too man. I what is that. A couple of minutes away from booger mcfarland. We'll talk to him about the big debut on clowney signing but first a reminder sports center brought to you by goodyear goodyear news from here on out every game a chance to create momentum to make the right past the right move the perfect shot it takes momentum to get through the playoffs it takes everything to capture a title. Goodyear more driven booger mcfarland weighing in on another number one. Pick joining the browns as they chase that elusive first super bowl appearance. How much closer does judean clowney get them will ask him after this sportscenter update another three to ground ball. Third moncada put it. Down has no hit. The cleveland indians twentieth. No hitter at sox history on. Espn one thousand in front of seven thousand one hundred forty eight socially distant fans you. Did it done. Incredible story denied a contract by the white sox. In december of twenty twenty finally kind of patched up got back together said we'll give you one year three million and it's one night he'll always remember. He actually had a perfect game. He hit a guy. He hit roberto perez on to pitch with one out in the nine. It could have been that close to perfect game as you heard when casper say the twentieth in white sox history dodgers have the most all time with twenty three the sixers over the nets last. I possible eastern conference finals preview. You would think sixers hang on one. Twenty one seventeen there were cruising in the fourth up. Twenty two brooklyn cut it to three most importantly for philadelphia though they have won two of their three regular season meetings with the nets. Right now the comes down to it turned for tiebreakers. You'd have to give it to philly. Hope you watch the gambling central broadcast last night new way to enjoy the nba gb on cloudy assigned to the browns mench. We're gonna talk about it with mcfarland in just one minute a one year deal worth up to ten million dollars. That's according to adam. Schefter see put him there with myles garrett. A former number one overall pick mayfield. The number one overall pick at cloudy the mix clowney is now going to be playing on his fourth team in four years and sportscenter is brought to you by goodyear. Goodyear knows from here on out. Every game is a chance to create momentum to make the right past the right. Move to hit the perfect shot. It takes momentum to get through the playoffs and it takes everything. Capture title goodyear. More great is a good way to describe it. The browns did last year. That was the greatest fear they've had since returning to the nfl and nine hundred ninety nine got to the divisional round of the playoffs. Dare i say even put a little bit of a scare a little one into the kansas city chiefs and now they've made not just a little addition a big one keyshawn. J. will zubin with bart scott. The house today in for jade coming to you live from above the heineken river deck at pier. Seventeen let's bring in booger mcfarland. He joins us on the goodyear hotline. Brought to you by good. You're helping you discover the road ahead. Goodyear more driven. Good morning booker. What do you make this move of. Jv beyond clowney adding to an already stack browns roster. What does it do for them in the morning gentlemen I like the move. I think when you look at your debut on clowning. He's been one of the more underrated disruptors since he's been in the league I mean he was dominant against iran. He's never really put up a ton of sack number. And i think that's the reason why he's bounced from team to team because when you're drafted number one overall you like. You're expected as a defensive end defensive lineman like they're drafting you number one overall to get on the quarterback and if you look at his career He's traditionally not able to do that. And and we can say yeah. But he's been disruptive listening. I was disrupted as a nose tackle. But i couldn't to pass the darn so therefore guess what. I got traded out of tampa windy and only played nine years when they drafted in the first round of the defensive lineman. They're doing that for you to get to the quarterback and rushed to pass and i think that's the one thing that clown got approved he can do consistently now in cleveland. He's gotta be opposite myles garrett so he's not gonna be the focal point of every offense he's gonna get a lot of one on one and he'll ever an opportunity to prove. Hey he's healthy and beat and he can finally get to the quarterback because if he can do that then this is gonna be something to behold but if he can't get to the quarterback then teams are just gonna say okay we can block him one on one and we'll still double myles garrett so I like the move. I'm not gonna be a static and lubbock dish book With this new with the off season. Move for moves for the cleveland browns and particularly this one. Where does it put them up against a kansas city team in. Afc this close the gap more and if not who is well. Yeah i mean any time you add more good players keys. It's gonna help your football team. There's this shift the balance of power. Let's just say for instance. I'm making this up totally If somehow the brown's got aaron donald. Yeah not the balance of power shifts in the afc jv on county is not shifting the balance of power. It's a another piece at. It's an already good football teams. I think it's gonna help them. I think when you look at look at the powers to be in the afc. Obviously kansas city is at the forefront. Then i think you gotta start looking at the teams. That are right on the cusp of being there. Indianapolis buffalo those teams right there. Cleveland is going to be right there. So i think it's a pool of teams and forgive me probably left anyone out that are gonna be a challenge and they gotta get better like in these. Gotta get better on defense. They got to rush the passer. Cleveland got to rush the passer. A little bit Buffalo's guy just become a little bit more explosive offensively so when you look at those teams that are right there near kansas city. They're closed but they need to add a piece or two that can help them in airs in which they are deficient book me. Ask close to draft time obviously stories come out all over the draft boards for different players for different reasons. What do you what type of competitive Miss you like in your quarterbacks and i'm asking you this for recent yeah i i think you asked me based on the triple that came out and somebody compensates bacon and if not forgive me for assuming that's what else say okay Everybody's makeup is different. You know we have this thing that we want quarterbacks to be the last one the last one in an excuse me last one out in the end. We want him to do everything above and beyond. And and have this win at all costs and truth veto everybody's personalities not that way as it pertains trevor lawrence. Here's what i'll say. Trevor lawrence only lost two games in his college career. So the god knows how to win from a competitive standpoint from a competitive standpoint he He checks that box now regardless of what he says as for as man this is. I don't have to win all 'cause i don't have to do do that doesn't bother me because when i turn the tape on and we are taped. Got the tape. Says he's a winner. The tape says from his freshman year on. He's he's been competing and playing at a high level so a lot of those comments doesn't really resonate. Don't bother me a lot a book out of these three names. I'm about to say which one which team is going to regret given their quarterback extension baker. Mayfield lamar jackson josh allen. I would rank them. Josh one lamar to baker three I think if you're buffalo. You're pretty much so based sold on. Where josh out on the the with the steady improvement where he's at how he is How he put himself into the mvp. I think you can only think that. This guy's limit when it comes to lamar. They really almost have no choice. But to pay lamar based on They changed the entire program to fit him. Okay you know. Gregg roman is now the. Oc or he kind of brought that colin kaepernick run game with the quarterback. And and they've taken it to a new level baker mayfield. Like you really. Don't have to pay him right now. Okay if you think about it. Yeah you can go ahead and pick up the fifth year option which i would do. I think he's earned that. But if i if you're still not sold on him then you can franchise twice like these teams really make themselves Feel like they are pressured to pay these kids. If i was the gm and i wasn't one hundred percent sure. Like i am going to josh. Allen i would literally give given the fifth year option enfranchising twice. What where are they gonna go again. I'm gonna go anywhere. But these teams like that. They have to go ahead and do it because everybody else is doing. And i definitely don't agree with that. And that's how you get the jared goff mistake that's how you get the carson wentz mistake but you have to pay those guys when you pay them. You paid them because like okay. Let's go ahead and pay the young quarterback and it's only going to become more expensive later on. I don't necessarily agree with that unless you one hundred percent. Sure in the josh allen situation then you go ahead and pay them if not. There's some people still on sold on the mar. I mean what are we. Keep saying he's got to get better as a passer okay. You know what. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give him the fifth year option. And if he's not where. I want him to be a franchise. Now sounds like the baltimore is going to go ahead and break the bank with him. But you gotta be careful when they're still big question marks around the guys game when you start paying forty million dollars a year. Espn football analysts joining us. This more no ki. Shaan j. will in zubin book. we're talking about. We're talking about guys being drafted and money in fifth year options and all of these sort of things. Here's a couple of guys that are gonna be drafted. This shared the quarterback spot in trevor lawrence. In in in zack wilson. But we got. Chris simms saying that he will take zack wilson over trevor lawrence based on what he's seeing. Do you agree with him on that. You know key that's his opinion and for me I wasn't has just a good a chance as anyone in this graph to be great. Or i don't know i think what we look at from from draft. Prospect profile is. Who's got who's got the greatest chance to be the best okay based on traits and measurable and all that and when you look at trevor lawrence six and two twenty five to thirty He can run if what four six athletic and move around all all these things that gives him every chance possible to be the best quarterback in this draft jaguars and not as big but he's got an electric arm. He's got an on. That reminds some of us are catching mahomes. He can make those throws he's He's he's that guy that that makes the wild throw so some people like that. Some people like meg jones. When you looking at a cerebral quarterback that i don't need. I don't need my quarterback to run around here. This is not a relay race this this quarterback mission okay. He's gotta drop back and be accurate and make good decisions with the football. I don't need into run a forty and then tag off and pass the time so some people like that i. It just depends other coaches like the challenge. Trae lands a guy who's only started what seventeen eighteen games in his career so much klay to be molded there some coaches and saying that's why i won't because i can teach him to think like me and be everything that i wanted to be. It just depends on what you won't keep. I go to birthday cows and you've been there okay. I like my stakes. Well done some people look at me and vomit. When when i hear there but you know that's what i like. I like doing state. Okay other people. I can medium rare. It just depends on what your flavor is and what floats your boat. I'm vegan. now go ahead zubin. Well they listen land through we got your career you had done left at the end of your career and the not eating food. I saw a lot of workers by. I have to go. Go to gotta go to way. We gotta go to break. Call me on my cell phone willing. Souverain the podcast the boozy vegan and just teasing on the vegan. My family my family is the deal. You know i. I was telling. Bart i could eat some vegetable insulators. You know but but when you start talking about the burgers and stuff if i'm having a burger on the real meat best around tofu burgers and no just reminder. We are brought to you by indeed when speeding up the hiring process indeed puts the dash in dash board use instant match to connect immediately with quality candidates whose resumes on indeed match. Your job description then. Use your dashboard to conduct interviews. Find out more than dot com slash credit. This morning. we're asking you on the phone lines. Hit us up eighty eight say. Espn eight eight seven two nine. Three seven seven six. We'll talk about this at the top of the hour but the tweets are flying in but get the calls. Run you fun question. Key you part. What quarterback this year is ready to take that josh allen like leap essentially going from a guy with a lot of potential to being an mvp candidate like we saw from josh in two thousand and twenty. Who's ready to pull that trick in twenty twenty one. Eight eight say espn. We'll talk about it. At the top of the hour with you on the phone lines tweets are flying in. Fell's we'll just reel off a few of them. Andrew says cuyler. Murray will be an mvp candidate. This season at steady eleven. I don't think you're right here. I wish you were said he's gonna go with drew lock and he's going with danny dimes yet. He's to these two back to back dues alike. They just woke up. Do we says. Joe burrow joe's got a healthy some players to talk about a penny seal to protect them. I gotta get health. Dave sam darnold. Without a doubt with the qualify. I agree with. I agree with dave. They're also he's been up. he's woke. No i disagree with day because if you think about a dj more robby anderson mccaffrey a competent office coordinator head coach. I mean i think he's going to have that leap you know. I think he's going to have leaping his fourth year. You say exact. Same thing about danny dimes. Look the weapons of raya weapons that this man has. It is disposal. And he's built like josh allen and he got up to twenty one miles an hour and he's more athletic people get all he has to do is make sure that he gets some tough callous. On joe you opera hands go to the ball. We presented by progressive insurance tj. We'll be the last guy at least on twitter for the moment he's going to go with jalen hurts. Who of course. The eagles took in the second round of the draft last year. Speaking of quarterback situations antonio and charlotte. You're on espn radio. The draft is two weeks from tonight. What have Gentlemen doing today. Good oh okay hey. A dole is out the altos daughter because she has a couple of days. Go out tour miami ut shining that'd be a too so let me shut out on to also okay in a way that ruth jones can't they'd be bred to run because if you ain't got no offense line nowadays glad back the lion off am secondary's sophisticated like let's talk about. Just a field is accurate quarterback to you like john elway trust me that will cash and in hand with looking at yesterday i got the next. You know where. Yeah i mean. He certainly was looking at him. I don't know if you thought or whatever but that he was looking at him as you could just tell there was something a little twinkle in the eye. Let's just put it that way. i do. We do have another angle can get another angle shot of him. I wanna see the gleam in his eye. And here's what i would say about justice fields and a lot of people aren't talking about this you know he's a baseball player. He's athletic. he could you know he. When you looking at athletic quarterbacks he can do so much for your offense. When things break down. A lot of times these quarterbacks in today's society and today's football they need to be able to get out of harm's way to play to get the receivers free all of those sort of things. He's the one guy in this draft in my in just watching him. That has the ability to do that along with trae lance well. Baseball is an attribute that you quarterbacks to have in recent years you hear about homer you hear about muhammad you hear about russell wilson you can deliver the ball from different angles. You stolen from different angles. And that's been a plus for everybody. But what i like about him is not what he did in two thousand last season what. He didn't know what he's twenty twenty. Yeah well i'm talking about twenty nineteen. i'm talking about. Twenty nineteen year always ahead. He's well two thousand nineteen where he had had. Three hundred and fifty. Four pass attempts only had three turnovers. I mean that's a lot of you know attempts but to only be able to be cleaned the football. You know that many times means that smart and can process everybody. Trust wasn't open when he threw that ball. There's no doubt about it and it'll be fascinating to see what happens again. The draft begins on. Espn espn radio. Two weeks from tonight. In cleveland on the way your calls on. Who makes the josh allen type. Leave bart's picking another quarterback in new york though not in western over. Thanks for listening to keyshawn. Jay williams zubin make sure to subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show live weekdays at six eastern on. Espn radio espn news. Or we you stream your audio this. Is adrian check out my podcast. The world with insight and analysis on the top stories in the nba adrian forging ascii are insider extraordinary reaction to the breaking news. This is the latest roads bomb an in depth conversations with some of the biggest names in the league. Thanks again. i'm good. Thanks for having me. I guess Yes thank you always appreciate you. Listen and subscribe to the wolves off wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Ep 369 - Palinuro, milagres e canibais; a sorte de Tutancmon

Túnel de vento

16:33 min | 7 months ago

Ep 369 - Palinuro, milagres e canibais; a sorte de Tutancmon

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[013] Molly and Ralph discuss Bengals, Jameis, News, the Panthers, and more

Buccaneers Observer

1:04:33 hr | 3 years ago

[013] Molly and Ralph discuss Bengals, Jameis, News, the Panthers, and more

"Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcast. This is Ralph Phillips Malet we're going to start off this week by going over Cincinnati analyze all twenty two and has some notes for us. I'm very excited here this because normally during the week he and I are basically talking about the bucks pretty much, and so two times we'll record a podcast, and we don't remember what we said in the podcast or what we had talked about outside of the podcast. So this is actually an exciting week for me because Ralph told me absolutely nothing about what he on all twenty two. You're going get some genuine conversation between. Very senate. This was an interesting game to watch. It was always enjoy watching the losses because it's easier to identify. What went wrong it's hard to identify winds to find what went wrong, it's easy to say. Oh, well, you know, we beat them to pears. They may touchdowns. We may touchdowns we won. But on the law says it's more interesting to review the all twenty two because you get to see basically why we lost Ralph off so mass chaos. He likes the prolonging the misery long as possible. Well, yes, I put on my my give alpha. Watch the ultra to and this nasty game found some very very interesting things. Now, we all know Winston messed up with his interception. No doubt about that. They were all his fault cutter did say that there was a bad route on one of them. But generally, they were all his fault. And then there were the success also think it was pretty well. That'll go into what I had to say here. Winston was a lot worse than what we thought those interceptions were nothing compared to what I saw on the game film. I don't know what's going on in his life. But he was an absolute mess out. He's he just got married. He's got a newborn. He's had the sexual assault acusations against him. You know, and that happened two years ago, but it just came to light, you know, during this whole me too movement stuff. And you know, that's got away owning pretty heavy. And then you got Ryan Fitzpatrick coming out there while he's on suspension and fifth. Magic just lights it up. So I think all of the pressure of everything we know which which all quarterbacks have pressure on it. But I think Winston has just a little bit more than most. And I think all of it has gotten to his head because this was an absolutely atrocious game on his part. The most amazing thing that I saw he missed seven opportunities for touchdowns. There were seven plays that he did not see that would have been touched up. It was incredible. This goes to the offense play calling was spectacular. I mean, they had we lost this game. This was not Cincinnati beaten up. This was us totally just losing it. And it was because of Winston does. It is no getting around that it was because of Winston, but there were seven plays that he had a opportunity for touchdown at he missed the first one was the first quarter with three or four left. He does a good past OJ Howard for eighteen yards. But Mike Evans had beat his. Man and would have had a touchdown the safety went for Howard before the ball was even thrown because Winston was staring down. And if Evans wouldn't add a touchdown on this when he definitely would have had a Mazda gain, probably forty fifty. He had his arms up Evans knew he had beat his man. He was running down the field. He had his arm up. You know, going with the ball and Winston didn't Winston with OJ J like in the middle of the field. And then Evans was down by a sideline. Evans was running down the sideline and Wisden just didn't see him. Which is you know, that's a knock I've always had on Winston. He doesn't read the field. Well, but this game was totally atrocious on his part for this. I mean seven opportunities for touchdown. We the offense coordinator whoever was calling was calling beautiful plays that were just beating them miserably. But Winston wasn't seeing them. And then that was the first one three or four in the first quarter, then at one of the three in the second quarter. This was Evans fall. He sticks his hand out and the ball bounced off his hands. But if the would've thrown at to him and strive, you know, he threw it a little bit in front of Evans was definitely catchable bounced off Evans hand, he's he's he stuck his one hand out and it hit his hand bounced off, but that would have been a touchdown and that one wasn't necessarily Winstons fault. If he would have thrown it better. You know, it would have been a touchdown, but Evans should have caught that bomb then with forty one seconds left in the second quarter. Rodgers was wide open with nobody around it for a touchdown. But Winston got under pressure and never saw him. Winston could've just stepped up when the pressure came because it really wasn't that bad. Instead he chose to roll out of the pocket and just ended up being messed up play. Which that's another thing. I saw in this game was Winston was getting ghost pressure. There was actually one play with seventeen seconds left. It was about two or three plays after this one where Winston felt pressure. And there was absolutely nobody near him. He actually. He scrambles he twists and turns around and spins and there was nobody near him. He had a clean pocket. It was very very strange. He felt like he was under under pressure. And that's the one where he throws it to Sean Jackson and ends out and Sean Jackson should have caught that ball. I mean the defender God his hand up in there. But the Sean had both hands on that ball and he should have brought it infant touchdown. That was on the Sean there. So we didn't have we got three opportunities. Now that Winston had for touchdowns and didn't go for them. Then in the third quarter with thirteen o eight left. Damore Dotson blitzes man, go by because it was it was like a slant blocked to the left, but he he didn't have anybody else to block after this. So we just stood there. And the guy that he could have blocked wasn't necessarily his responsibility. But he could have blocked got a sack on Winston. But here's the thing. We we talked about this a lot last year about this beautiful play that cutter is designed where OJ Howard is on the lettuce scrimmage. We've got max it looked like max protect in. We got a bunch. Of wide receivers over to the right? We got to tight in. And they all go out for they go out. They don't stay in the block. They all go out to to catch the ball to run routes and OJ Howard acts like he's going to block. He waits about a second. Then he goes across the front of the line and shoots down the left sideline. I think we scored three touchdowns with that last year. But he's wide open. Everybody forgets about it. He gets lost in the scrum and all the beautiful beautiful design play. And I've wondered why haven't we done that this year? We haven't done it once this was the play. They did this Howard was screaming down that left. There was nobody within forty yards of him. He was wide open and Winston got sacked and wisened didn't have to get sack. You know, he was wisdom's fault. He got sacked Dotson didn't block the guy but Winston could have easily avoided the guy just chalked it. But he didn't he he got the the deer in the headlights. Look just got clobbered, I think, you're just bitter. Jay Howard on your. Twelve point. Oh my goodness. Play. I want this week again. I'm what eight nine one seven leading the league killing it play my nemesis. This week though. He's got a monster team. Beat me last year. He won the the. This is beat your wife. Yeah. This guy he's from Germany, and he knows absolute didn't know anything about NFL football. So we got him to join our fantasy league. It's a money league. And so we're thinking all right. We got a sucker in here. Extra extra money. Now. This guy has studied typical German he studied and analysed football and every year he's in the play offs. At least the last year. He finally won the championship. So he's my nemesis. I don't think he knows that. You're he's. Yeah. He probably does not at all. He's like who is this guy. He's a puck in years fan. He's horrible. So. Yeah, this play was just so disgusting. It was like it was the beautiful play beautiful setup. It's that I love that play. It beats defenses ninety percent of the time. And it goes for a touchdown and Howard was wide open the safeties where on the other side of the field and Winston just didn't see him. So that's what the third one. No. That's the fifth one fifth. That's five touchdowns. We've missed with seven forty three left in the third quarter. Again winston. He just scrambled for no reason, he ends up picking up nine your nine yards when he scrambles, but he had to Sean Jackson had beat his man. It was open for at least thirty art past at least minimum. But with Sean Jackson speed. It would have been a touchdown because he was in front of his guy for a good two two or three yards. And I could sort of understand why the Sean might not like Jameis Winston. Because if this stuff happens regularly that would piss you off as a wide receiver. You know here. You are you're beating your man, you're doing your job and he's not even throwing the ball. Yeah. I I could see why the Sean would would get a little aggravated with that. I mean why why did Winston scramble? I mean, there was a little bit of pressure maybe coming but Winston just talk the ball and just bran and he had the Sean Jackson wide open down the field for touch. And again, if he gets that ball out, I think that's kind of an inch to hold the ball. Yeah. He doesn't sometimes some of these timing plays. We'll get the ball out fast. He just he just say, it seems like he has a hard time deciding what to do a lot. And then when he does. Decide what to do usually the wrong thing. He does it right into coverage. He does that a lot. But then with three oh three left in the third quarter west gets under pressure. He runs around in the pocket. He never sits his feet for throw after the pressure. But he had Mike Evans and beat his man again running down the left sideline could've made a touchdown. But it is Mike Evans that they might want to caught up with him. But he had open space in front of him. And he was not that far in front of the defender maybe yard or so, but he would have caught it. I mean, this is my cabinet, and it would have been at least a forty yard gain. Minimum minimum. And again Winston didn't see him didn't even look over there. So. Shortly after that Winston gets pulled out of the game. And he was just he was just horrible. You know, and I'm gonna win. I'm always of supporter, I'm a waste of fan. But he regressed in this game, really, really bad. And I don't know what it is. I don't know if injured no he had that hip injury. And then in the Cleveland game, he was limping around with the hip, and I don't know if that's messing up his footwork and stances or whatever, but something is going wrong with James west don't know if that'll be the last we ever see of him play. Talk about that. Yeah. So I've spent this past week on Monday cut her announced that fits starting. You know, you and I both wants to allow coverage on this year. And it's pretty split. There's a lot of people speculating that this problem probably the end forgiveness new Tampa badly. And I think it's a bad bad decision. Because there's something wrong with Tampa. I don't know what it is. It's not ownership. It's not coaches. It's not anything. I can I can you can point at there's something wrong there. We do not know how to treat quarterback. It's that simple. We have never. Of course, we all know we've never signed a quarterback to a second contract. But you look at the past quarterbacks. We've had on our team Steve Young Doug wins. Benny test Verde Trent Dilfer, three them one Super Bowl after they left. Our team. Steve Young hall of Famer why can't they succeed in Tampa? Look what happened with Josh Freeman. Complete meltdown complete meltdown. This guy was supposed to be faced with the franchise. He came out two thousand ten blazing came out first part of two thousand eleven killing it, and then disaster what is going on? My theory is is the fan mate the city the fan base. We don't know. It's a culture we expect too much out of our quarterbacks. And as soon as they mess up. We attack them pouts on them a group develops that wants to run them out of town seems to happen with every coach every quarterback every player on that seems like as soon as they mess up. It's there's the pack of people that just start hounding them to run out of town run them out of town. And then we just end up with the same mess over and over and over again, we gotta stop we have some point. We got to put our foot down as fan base and say we're going to stick with this group. No matter what hell or high water. We're not going to run people out. We're going to have faith in our quarterback. And I think that's really bothered Winston. I mean, look at how he was the first round draft pick. He was brought in to me. Mmediately large part of fan base didn't like one because you know, they're not fans of his college team and two because of all the off the field incident stuff. So he comes in with that. He's already got a lot of the fan base doesn't like him. So he tries to build a report with the city in the fan base. And all that. And then all this other stuff happens, and they just keep piling on piling only pollen on now here he is. He gets a spended for something. He did two years ago to two and a half years ago. And you know, he's like, I'm not that guy anymore. Whatever I don't know. But he sees the fans showing up to the stadium with beards on Channing for Fitzpatrick that's got to destroy him. You know? And that's what we do. We do this with every quarterback. I remember Vinny Testaverde was because he was blind. He was colorblind. So we put up billboards Tampa mocking him about his eyesight and Vinny Testaverde goes on he takes teams to play offs and all the hit a lustrous career. Steve it's just we gotta stop doing that. We are destroying. Our quarterback, you know, the freemen. There was rumors about the drug use. And all that good stuff. Tampa. I don't know. What y'all doing down there you'll need to close down to strip clubs or at least ban them. The players that some players in something something in Tampa is rotten. I don't know. Yeah. It's there's no loyalty, no loyalty, and you know, my first experience with this regime. I think had to go after two thousand eleven it was awful. You couldn't we couldn't continue like that. Everybody on the team should have been and they almost did clear out the whole team. But I don't even know if we should say this I feel like this coming out the closet. We were Xiang and fans I feel like I'm coming out of the closet right now. Big Shona fan, I love shop. And I I think that he's going to be a great NFL coach one could be the next Bill ballot shot. Joe? I have no doubt about it. I'll make this prediction all the time. And I'm going to put it right here on the podcast if she comes back to the NFL he will be Super Bowl winning coach, no doubt about that. What we did to the hill. And what the media did the hill was Rodney, it was the media. It was started with the media. And I think that Tampa fan base so susceptible to that there. I think there's a small contingent of fans that will always be boo birds. That are always getting hate whoever's there, but then you add in the locker room issues all those kind of distractions in that group just gets bigger and bigger until they end up running whoever it is outta town. Yeah. Yeah. And oh did not have any reason to be run out of town. And it's one of the things that bothers me about the pew report is they they didn't come out with the information that they had about iana that vindicated. They held it back in his because the media hated him because he didn't give players access to the media. But he he gave great. And he had great press conference is to love his press conference always felt pretty much everyone. Everyone looked forward to coming out because I felt like he was talking to the fans, and he actually talked football. Yeah. He didn't he didn't give coachspeak. And I think part of the reason that the media didn't like him. Is because he wasn't communicating about the player issue. He was talking football are talking about what Josh Freeman was doing on his off time, you know, the captain's vote or any of that stuff. He wasn't talking about. What was he wasn't airy? Now, all the buccaneers during dirty laundry in the yeah, the media hated him for any number of reasons. But the he didn't give them access to the player that they're used to. And they really did not like that. So they went on a tirade to get get him kicked off the team and it worked up, but the it's just a it's endemic. You know, I know a lot of Cleveland Brown fan. They have the same culture. You know, they have a losing culture. It's like when the Szanto air and stuff happened. People were going to Tampa stadium wearing the bags on their faces and the the has met suits and all that good stuff. And it's like they take they took pride in that. Right. I would never do that. It's just it's just four and to me that you would cheer for somebody on your team to do bad. But the same thing with all every single Browns fan, I know Cleveland Browns and everybody across the league knows that. There's something wrong with the Browns. And we all everybody, always points ownership and everything. No. I don't think. So I think it's the fan because every single Brown fan. I know is extremely pessimistic. They love to just sit around and complain about the, you know, and they talk about this person's bad that we need to get rid of this. It was like when Hugh Jackson got fired. Everybody's exciting. You know, we got why would you be excited about that? I mean, you're basically given up on the season halfway through the why does your rolling the dice? Now. You know, you're like, well, hopefully, the next coach won't be as bad knowing you're going to dislike him. That's really you're probably rooting against your team saying get this high draft picks for your next coat. I yes, I think that's a lot of the problem is there's been such a culture of losing in Cleveland and Tampa than we don't know how to win as fans we don't know how to support our team to encourage them to make them want to fight play. Hard for the fan base. We don't know how to do it. I mean, it's something that you know, you look at Green Bay Green Bay has had settled sold out stadiums. For decades, you know, even in the eighties when they were absolutely horrible. They sold out their fans support them. They fought the players they go to the games. They get excited about it. They know they're all sitting around chanting for their coaches to get fired. And the media's not sitting there talking about all we need to get rid of this player and that player and all that good stuff. I think you know, I I'm a big fan of being a fan. I think we are the twelfth man. I think that we have a responsibility in our responsibility is to support our team. And that means everybody on the team. That means the players the coaches, the owners that ministry of personnel. The water boys all of that. Don't call for them to be fired. That's you saying I don't like part of our team. And that's I don't understand. If you're rooting for everyone to get fired. Like, what is it about the team that he likes right? Is it the colors is at the logo. Like, I don't understand. So with all that being said, I think the best thing to do. I mean, could you imagine I'm gonna go back to the fans stuff? Could you imagine how an opponent would feel walking into Raymond James stadium with? No, none of their fans there. It's all Tampa Bay fans, or at least the maximum. We can have and them chanting and just supporting our team and booing their team and just intimidating them the opponent hostile environments. But it's not at Tampa, Raymond, James. It's almost fifty fifty. It depends on what team has come and whether and how big their fan bases and Tampa Tampa fans don't show up. They don't feel the stadium. So then the opponents feel the stadium and a lot of times you'll hear the ponies make a play and the crowd cheer because half of them are from the rooting for the other team, and it it's like you can't have that. If you have that then your team never gets that feeling of encouraged, and I think as the twelfth man, it's already. Ability to do that. We have a responsibility of fans, you know, an arts responsibilities to support. Our team means everybody on the team go to the stadium. Make noise you make it hard for the other team. That's our jobs fan. I think we really don't feel like we could have any. I think the problem is the fans don't feel like they can help that that we're not a part of winning. It's not. But you can't look at look at Seattle. Yeah. They had the whole twelve man. I mean, you go in there and your offense can't hear a word that anybody else's saying that sell loud. It's it hinders the other team they designed the stadium to amplify the sound of the fans, and they had the twelve man symbol up on the side of the building to let the fancier like that that make the fans feel they're part of the team, and you are part of the team. And he just like you don't want to Sean Jackson in the locker room. Mm complaining about James Winston as the quarterback. It just disrupts the locker must the same thing. With the fans. We, you know, we're part of the team if you have part of the fan base at sitting around complaining about part of the team, it causes division, and strife, and it's just it makes everything worse. It's not being and you're not motivating the players, right? I mean, basically the fans are almost year boss, right? In a way. I mean, if you if your boss is constantly complaining about how you're competent. How you Mack how you need to go. Are you really going to be motivated to do anything for them? Absolutely not. And then you see you see all the press conferences in the interviews. You know, players I give the players, and the coaches, they give you know, coachspeak, or whatever you wanna call it. And and all that, and I can understand it because the media the sports media. They're looking for story. You know, they're not there to support team. There's a couple of the sports journalists and I say, yeah, they're booking. Here's fans, but most of them are they're just doing a job. They don't care about team. And if they could sponsor something latch onto and rip it apart. Like a pit bull. They're going to do it. So they appealed to that contingent of fan always complaining about everything journalists journalists don't write happy stuff journalists. They like news and sensationalism. So they're going to write about this crap. Winston screwing up the game bub-bubba. And you know, rightfully so. But not every week. You know, they'll talk about bad crap. All the time. If you're a bucket near fans out there, don't listen to the media all the time you get on the spot cast, the buccaneers observer. Where we talk about the team when we can't. Thank you. Thank you enough soapbox. Let's get back to the Cleveland game. Cincinnati the Cincinnati game. That's right. I was talking about Cleveland the other thing that was surprising about this game offense of line. Did great. I know it's a it's the score shows that they had what you say five six. I think six sacks could grief. No, they did great relate. Because I thought the dump thin. No, let's getting manhandled. All done laugh out. Like three sacks on it wasn't his fault. No. I mean. Sorry there Dawson, that's my bad crap about this was surprisingly if very good game for the offense of line and been Evans got hurt. So better knock had to play the third and fourth quarter. Normally just plays first and third grade. And he did great. He did allow once that that was completely his fault. It was in the. Oh, one fifty seven left in the fourth quarter. He does a block anybody. There's nobody in front of him. So he got a stands there. And he does not see the linebacker that comes in onto the late blitz run right past him and sex Fitzpatrick. So but other than that the offensive line did spectacular. I thought there was not a lot of pressure on Winston order Fitzpatrick. And you know, those sacks a lot of them were just, you know, both of them running out of the pocket running into players. Yeah. There was there was three three sex. Actually, I've got it written down. Three sacks the second quarter with two minutes left. Evans gets beat Evan. Smith gets beat by Atkins ninety seven in the third with thirteen thousand eight left sixty nine gets beep. Dunlap. And then the one with Ben Anoc. Those are the only three where you could say that was the fault of the offensive line. But you gotta say Evan Smith going up against Atkins is not a good matchup you want, and we talked about that in the preview of this. That was just going to be a horrible matchup. We didn't hear Atkins name lot during that game. Now, not really. And it's the real reason was because offense line did a great job and the Renna Bax stay back there and block we have really fantastic blocking running backs back there. I can't believe nobody talks more about that. I mean, they they'd like to busy laying on the running backs for not not getting. Right. Would you have the offensive line? Did a really good job blocking the offense altogether. Got an a plus in this game except for the quarterback and Winston he got an e and is such a shame. It really is kinda understand why the rest of the team I watched the press conference and the rest of the team. No one was really shocked by Winston getting benched, and they really didn't seem to upset about it move to shake, well, hopefully, hopefully, we don't give up. I don't wanna go through this mess. I don't wanna get another quarterback in the draft. Or what's our third quarterback? Ryan Ryan Griffin. Who knows how that guy is? I mean one thing he's going to be paired. I'm pretty sure it once it gets out there once he'd been a backup for three or four years. Now, her really likes them cutter says not only do we don't just have two quarterbacks that could come in. We got three Griffin's just never activate because don't have enough spot. Are they going to have Winston the second stringer or are they gonna put Griffin second-stringer Winston that'll be? Interesting. I I would love to see Ron Griffin play. But I don't want to give up on Winston on a most people's the general consensus is he's he's done. He's finished. But I don't want to see him go to another team and win a Super Bowl. I don't know if I can handle it again. I mean, we've had three x quarterbacks go to teams win Super Bowls. We are not doing something. Right. And Winston has got the skills. He can do it. Now another thing that surprised me with this game. Besides the offensive line played, really. Well, like, I said did not hear Dino Atkins name Alamar pit manhandled him. They was a good battles going on Alamar pet is a good good offensive line. He kept he shut Atkins out pretty much. Yeah. Impress Anton of and Smith played. Well, wow. It was really I was I was really impressed. The really the the worst playing lineman were demar Dotson and Jensen, but they didn't play that bad, right? Actually did rows early impressed with the dolphins of London. Give them good grades on that what did surprise me on the D. Defense are linebackers. Oh my gosh. Did they play whore? Did they really yes? That's why mix it was able to run all over top of us almost every past that was caught by receiver was because lamb Becker screwed up coverage or they just weren't able to make the play the corner bags did really. Well, they were stuck to him like glue. They they do have the problem, which this is the coach thing it's got to be a coaching thing where they never ever ever turn around. And look at the ball ever. Remember that touchdown. The I think it was AJ green and call to Davis was right there. I mean, it was literally up in his face mask. If he would have just turn around look at the ball, it would've been intercession. And I can't tell you how many times I say that during watching this game. I'll say I would have just turned around. I would have been an interception and they're coaching them to play that. I don't know why I think Brent Grimes is the only one that doesn't do that on a consistent basis. And that's only because he keeps his man five yards in front of him at all times. So, but yeah. David David and Taylor, the two to lamb backers they were missing tackles. And they the biggest issue with them is something we've talked about all year long is they're getting engaged with their blockers. And they're not getting off the block. And that's why mix it was able to run so much on us because it's almost like like David and Taylor were seeking out the blocker. So that they could engage with very strange. I don't know if that's a coach and thing, and especially the Levante David because that's his forte getting off blocks and avoiding being blocked. I mean, he's just got a football sense about him where he can maneuver through lines. But not not this year. Man. They're they're going straight for the blocks and go for the ball. They're going for the blockers. And I don't understand why they're doing that. I don't know what say about that. But I will say I wonder if Kwan's absence has really affected them. I know quantum only had that half a game. That was good. He was doing this same. But I'm not talking about the blocking. I'm just talking about how they laid overall. Well, I've heard that he was. The heart and soul the defense. And you never know if it's really them just below and smoke or if trill. Yeah. Well, I, you know, the linebackers didn't play much worse than they have most of the year. They've only had one decent game. So I guess the Brown. Yes. And this was just them reverting back to what they've been doing. It's it's very strange. It's it's a coaching thing. I've got to say it's a coaching because I've never seen them. Do it to do this. That they follow for play action a lot too. There was one dog and threw it to Zoema. He was lying open because both fifty four fifty three fell for play action ran up to the line and tied in came round behind him. And he was wide open. Luckily, he dropped the ball was a bathrobe Dalton which was quite a few of those two. So on defense. It was our linebackers and our defensive line did not get hardly any pressure on Dalton. He had all data throwback. And this is not a stellar offense of line that we were going up against him. It's not bad offense top fifteen probably. But that's that's not good. We're not getting any pressure. But we didn't do any blitzen harm bellied. No blitzen, and it was mainly just rushing for the was very vanilla. Our defense was very vanilla. Yeah. Well, I mean, they put the thirty seven points on what happens guys a lot of it was because they had pretty decent field position from all. Yeah. Our defense has got to get more physical. We are missing way too many tackles that we're not doing good attacking fundamentals. We're not setting are feet. We're not put shoulder into these things. You know, we're doing a lot of arm tackles were overrunning. It's we gotta work on that that that really hurt us with Nixon. You know, there was quite a few times we had him in the backfield. And we would just miss the tackle with the IRS engaging with the blocking the blockers did not getting off with them. It's not just their problem is everybody's problem. We're not getting off our block, but the linebackers third. It's vital that they don't get caught up in a scrums. And they are how neat avai deal. He did. All right again. He was pushing guys around and every couple plays where he pushed them right back into Dalton and everything. But again there was a couple of plays where he's pushing his guy back and the runner runs right past them. And he doesn't try to tackle. Maybe he's too focused on beating his guy. It seems like no awareness. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They dropped him into coverage. Couple times. How did he doing cover absolutely horrible? The dumbest thing I've ever seen. Ashley, they dropped him in coverage. Couple times they dropped a JVP and cover to couple times both times they dropped vein. Coverage. It turned out to be a disaster. It was one time where him Taylor and David were bunched together in coverage they were all within like five yards of each other in Tyler Boyd rain right through them caught the pass and ran past David for twenty two yards. I was like what how do you throw into triple coverage in the bud? Even makes the tackle. Yeah. That was a fourteen seven in the first quarter. Very strange. Taylor looked confused on that play like, yeah. No. We're nowhere to he had no idea what he was doing. So with our defense. We gotta learn how to tackle. We gotta tackle better. Stop doing these arm tackles and basically throw in our bodies at the player. We gotta get our Cornerbacks turning around. That's why we only have wounded or -ception on the year. We're not looking for. Interception. The guys are not turning their heads around. They're not trying to get the ball. I don't understand it. And are linebackers have got to start playing better. They got start a, okay. So on defense. We got the quarterbacks gotta start turning their heads around. Not just quarterbacks linebacker to. They're doing the same thing. Turn the head around. Look for the ball. We only got one interception on the season. That's the reason why we've got to start tackling. We gotta start planting our feet putting her shoulder into guys not this one arm stuff with one leg on the ground flan in the hair launching our bodies at players, and we got to get more physical. We are just not a physical at all. We're not we're not we're soft, and I hate that. I hate being soft and our linebackers and our whole team our whole defensive got to start getting off their blocks. You know, they're getting blocked there dating with block or so not even trying to avoid blocker. You see that with Cornerbacks a lot? They do that. You know, like if a runners coming in there's a blocker there. They'll like engage with them because you can tell they don't really want to. Try to stop running running at full steam. So they'll get out of the blocker. Like, hey act. Like, you're blocking me. So I don't have to hurt myself you kind of expect it a little bit from Cornerbacks. But not allowed back now know those guys are supposed to avoid blocks. And if they do get blocked get off of it and make Tak we're not getting any of that from our linebackers. So I do have some suggestions for Jameis Winston while. We're on the subject how horrible he played one. He needs to start not just looking off receivers. But you need start pump-faking. He never pumped and I don't see a lot in the league anymore. But there was quite a few plays here where the defenders would see Winston start to wind up, and they would abandon their guy and run to where he was going to throw it. There was one instance where in the third quarter twelve twenty three left number twenty three Darius Phillips who's a rookie, by the way, stop covering, Adam Humphreys, who was left completely wide open. Win Phillip saw that Winston's. Started to wind up and Phillips ran at least ten yards towards Evans who was who. Winston was getting ready to throw to before. He caught the ball for a five yard game before the ball got to. So this guy there cornerback dairies Phillips released with Humphries ran towards Evans all while Winston was getting ready to throw and he almost got there. He was a good fifteen yards away from Evans. He almost got there by the time the ball. Yeah. If Winston would've pump fake he would had Humphries probably for touchdown. Because this guy totally abandoned. And you see that happen a lot because everybody knows when Winston starts to throw. He's gonna throw and wherever he's looking is where the ball's going to go so everybody just swarms to that area. You know, I've been thinking I've been giving this some thought, and no one's talking about the fact that he's had to be MU. Yeah. Good point. I mean, and I went through this several years ago, but it's still fresh. It's still there that it's hard. And I know he's not. Down first NFL quarterback than ever had a child during the season. But it's a big adjustment. Etta changes you in ways that you don't really understand asleep. As one of the lack of sleep is, you know. So did he have the child during the season? I think right in the pre center right before the reason his babies young. Yeah. That just changes your whole world. I six I mean, at least less than six months old problem didn't McCoy have another child dead now. We're okay. All right. So the things with Winston I think it needs to do to improve start doing some pump fakes stop staring down receivers. Don't throw in such tight coverage. You know, he he loves Mike Evans every time. Winston gets in trouble. He just looks for Mike Evans throws. It no matter how how much he's covered. But he's got to read the field better. That's his biggest flaw. He's not reading the field. It's like he knows the play. Which is another thing. I hardly ever see them. Check bound, you know, they come up to the line of scrimmage. He. As the coverage any hardly ever checks out of the play. They've called strange Fitzpatrick though, do much either. So I don't know what that is with the offense. Maybe they tell don't check down pull call play we call whatever. But he needs to he he's really on edge. He's gotta stop feeling this pressure just on not easier to say than do any needs to work on his mechanics. Now, unfortunately, that's a long list, and that's a list that shouldn't be here for years in his career, which is a lot of the criticism online. And I think that's fair. Oh, it's fair. Yeah. But think he'll do. No good to get rid of it. It's not gonna do any good. But what are we going to be left with its Patrick and Ryan Griffith bright? And then Winstons going to go somewhere in light us up next time. He plays. How long do you give him? Well, I would play hill bench him until Fitzpatrick screws up as he eventually will Fitzpatrick is not you know, he he he's been on seven different teams for a reason. You know, he's he's a great backup. But you can't depend on him. He's going to throw his game of three four five picks. It's common. And when that happens you put Winston back in there. And then you say, here's your fifteenth chance, we've given you put him out there and see and just keep working with him working with him until he develops or he doesn't develop he doesn't develop you know, they're going to move on from him. I don't think they should. But he he definitely needs to have that ax over his head all players should feel all players should feel like they don't perform gone, you know, and they should have competition. Winces never hit competition is entire career. You know, he was anointed coming in here. He was thrown into the starting role day one. You know, he's never had anybody behind him his competition in his college. He'd never did. He did say this the first time he's ever been benched. Bright, and he was only based because Fisk Patrick was playing. Well, if it's Patrick it's never playing. Well, Jameis Winston would not have been bid, and he needs that all players need everybody needed need competition. So again, we lost his game ourselves. They didn't beat us. We lost this game. Big time mainly on Winston and the linebacker. No defense. It was the linebackers offense. It was Winston penalties didn't help us. But quite a few of them were BS penalties again. And this is really starting aggravating me because I know we get the crappy graphs, but some of these are just unexcusable. There was the one at the end of the game really got me ghost in was called for unnecessary roughness on the field goal kick. So even if the guy wouldn't have made to feel they would add another shit chance, but it would have been fifteen yards closer or half the distance the goal closer. So we were screwed right there. No matter what. But in it. It was it was one where you know, you're supposed to not hit the center now when they snapped along, snapper. You're not supposed to engage with them getting engage with them both him. And I think it was Bo might not have been bow out. I can't remember on the other side squeezed in tried to squeeze him beside the. They never hit him. I don't understand why they made that call and it just all of them are like that. Then there was that one with a dairies Taylor. Our lab Becker again number fifty three got the penalty for delay of game. This was a seventeen seconds left in the fourth quarter. They were in field goal rain. But it would have been a fifty eight yarder. Put in they blew whistle on Taylor for delay of game. Because apparently he picked up the ball in started running with. Well, there's really no good footage this because like usual, the broadcast didn't do a replay of and they didn't show what the penalty was. And they do this with the buccaneers all the time. And it just a fury. It's me. But on all twenty two you can see what happens for the most part, they tackle the wide receiver. I think it was Tyler Boyd, and he falls to the ground and the ball pops out and Taylor standing there. And he sees the ball pop out and he reaches down and he picks it up and he looks around. And then that's when the footage stop. So I don't see what happens after that. But apparently what had. Happened is he started to run down field. He thought it was a live ball which looking at it adult twenty two very well could have been allowed ball. Did they ever blow a whistle? I don't know. But my point is that's not a penalty in the rulebook. There's nowhere in the rule book that says that and you see it happen all the time with players we we were just watching the Carolina game. And it happens. You know when a ball comes out of a pile or receiver drops the ball. You'll see guys pick it up and run down the field. Even after the whistle blows just in case type of thing. So why in the world did they call penalty line for the is there a special Renault than the two minutes? No, no. I looked all this up. There is nothing. Ralph has been reading the rule book. All. This one to ten only. So anyhow it takes it from a fifty eight yard kick to a what did end up being a forty two yarder. No, it would have been a forty two yard without a penalty. And devante Harris. Played a really good game cornerback number twenty two. Now, we don't know who he is. He did a pretty good at a pretty good game. Yes. So did end up being a thirty seven yard field goal. But it would have been a forty two yard field goal without that penalty. It's not that big of a difference. But everybody knows the forty yard is harder to hit them thirty yard. Or so ask Chandler catton's era Chandler, so there's that and then there was a couple more where you're just like why are they calling these stupid penalty? JP had a couple of good sacks. And he did it in the fourth quarter. You had two of them almost had three. Probably like to see people showing up in the fourth quarter. That's right. He got once one of his sack. He split the double team. I was quite impressive. Yeah. Actually, two of them. He's put double team and on one. The last second got with three thirty two left in the fourth own. We only have three people rushing we dropped Goldstone back and covered it splits. The double team gets the sack. Yeah. I'll both Sachs came in the fourth quarter. Good for you JP showing up. And then there was the the Sean Jackson the third quarter thirteen forty six left. The Sean Jackson's going for the ball and the defender, grabs his arm. Do you? Remember that one defender grabs his arm, and he couldn't lift his arm up to catch the ball. The Sean sort of fought for that ball a little bit harder. Hate me started complaining to the rest like as soon as the ball was on the ground. But it was a blatant pass interference. I how I mean you could see it on the replay on the broadcast. Hang the guy, just grabs. His arm doesn't let him lift it up to catch the ball. How they missed that one. I don't know. But then there was another one on a kickoff. Punt we got called can't remember what was got called for player out of bounds on the kick this caused the Bengals get the ball in the thirty two. Instead of the twenty-seven painting, Barbara. It was one of the gunners. He was on the outside. I can't remember who it was. But they ended up get the ball in the thirty to twenty seven. And then they go sixty eight yards and four plays. They got a nineteen yard play. A fifteen yard play at twenty six yard played an eight yard play for a touchdown in about a minute and a half. But the player out of bounce. Call was complete BS. I don't know where what are these refs? Where are they getting this rule book? I don't know. And then he gets down to feel the guy that gets the penalty called on him. He gets down the field and they blocked him in the back right in front of a ref and drifted and call it. Yeah. So he's a gutter. He's got two defenders on him. He goes towards the outside edge. They push him. They force him to go out of bound. He runs back inbounds almost immediately. Like you're supposed to do and they called him for going out of bounds. And then when he gets down to the guy caught the ball one of the gunners that pushed him out of bounds comes up behind him blocks him in the back for no, Dan REEs. The fair catch in the rest stain right? There. Didn't call it weird. It might have been paying more. I can't remember who. Molly has it written down in her notes here that it was Peyton Barbara soon. I'm gonna go with her her call. Molly was right is what Ralph saying you heard it here first and last ever again. All right. There's a whole bunch of stuff with the game. I could go through. But I'm just gonna leave it there. We we have some things we've got to improve on. We're going to see with Winston out. Now how Fitzpatrick plays. I think this is going to be back though. I do I don't think there's no way Fitzpatrick, and you've got to figure, you know, if if Winston doesn't come back cutter in light are probably gone because cutter was brought in to be the quarterback. Guru for Winston. He got the head coaching job at got rid of lovey because he had such a report with Winston at like this was the first pick of the draft. You screw that up. Yeah. You don't get you keep your so both of them want wisdom back in is soon as Fitzpatrick's starts messing up wisdom. We'll get shot and sentence not Murray. So what we got going on for the next game. What's the news? For the team here, Molly. All right. So the big news was Fitzpatrick be named a starter. We went over that. We have some roster news Kevin Minter, the linebacker that we picked up last week that plea for Zona let's released and then cornerback Davian Elliott Elliott was moved out from the practice squad. So we're still doing for shuffling with the roster can no back with return to practice this week. He's been cleared by Dr cutter were saying they have I think twenty one days to get him back on injury. Reserve or active it, okay? So just firm. Refresher he fractured. His ankle in a car accident that required circa off. So he's back Gerald McCoy welcome to baby boy this week baby. Would you say his name was Mars smart? So he's got a boy named Marcellus and his Mars Marcellus to got to Marcellus. Now, why am I Sal is one more mart? So he jerem McCoy returned to practice on Friday, but he missed earlier practices in the week. And they were saying it wasn't football related. Some kind of thinking maybe it was. So they didn't confirm that they didn't comment. But I'm just the trade deadline was this week. There was a lot of talk about this. And a lot of criticism that Jason like didn't make any moves in pick any players especially in one more lacking so desperately in the secondary. But apparently rumor had it that we tried to go for a safety. Landon Collins who plays for the giants. But the giants wanted a second round pick. And I guess we'll I give that in no other ones either obvious. Let's see what the giants said that trade deadline into Tuesday, our division standings. We've got the saints or six in one. The Panthers are five and two falcons are three and four and the bus three and four and we act dropped down. Spot falcons are now third now, we're laugh whore. Was that we go from being I in the division for the first couple of weeks and our last halfway through the season, though, we can still turn it around or only three and four saints play in the Rams this week. They share be. Yeah. I wouldn't know that saints are six in one. You know, there are only loss was against this team in the league buck any book. And here's thank you. Saint stupid coach face. Right. That brings us to the Carolina game. I'll start with the injury report. So we can get that on the way we've got Vinny curry and McCoy are returning this Li they both returned to practice. Friday. We had a, you know. No, I'm not really excited about McCoy coming back for this game. If he if he does play that he's hysterical. Not done well against Carolina. He has a hard time with the run. It's not great moon. Well, he's he's played eleven games against Carolina since he's been with the buccaneers. And he's only set Cam Newton three times key, cams is very very hard to get down. He's he's hard to sack, but they're big, and he's big and strong. And it seems like the Panthers offensive lineman give to same with the saints painted the saints offense of lemon, give McCoy heart. So I don't think him coming back is really going to benefit the team this week. I would actually like to see vita in there. And maybe they'll take that into consideration a row Phillips said you should play this league. Maybe we'll. They you know, but he's just returning from an injury. So maybe they'll give him to minor girl. Yes, split it. Maybe with maybe because they still want to see what they can do. I think they would be much better this game because they've run more than most teams. Right. But he he's got to get off those blocks and start tackling people. Right. Full participation in practice. We Mike Evans JP Danson Peyton barber. So they're all good to go for the problem going. Yeah. And we've gone three players out Rochelle he's out with a hamstring. So Sean Wilson is actually gonna play some Sylvie pain. Barbara Shaw who shot. And Evans Smith is out like we talked about. So bene- knock oh, been Catholic the activate Kaplan. I thought about that earlier nine for not research that they're going to have to think I mean who else do they have behind these guys? I think a low-key. I think back up I saw on the Cincinnati all twenty two Jensen went down with an ankle injury. But then I mean, he was down and everybody was like surrounded him and stuff, and you could tell he was on the paint on the field and pain got rolled up on from behind got. Right back up in state in a game. I like you go. It's like, you do it, man. He does look like a tough guy, and he's always like indiapol- faces. Yeah. You got you love that with offense. Joe Holly was one of the best and he just. Yeah. And day Stewart he's out with a foot any really play. But that's you know, our secondary. While it's our weak point on its Carolina. They're not really strong in their risk. So and Cam Newton's not really that accurate, especially with the ball. You're just going over all Monday to let me finish. We'll finish out the Panthers injury report. And then we'll get to the game. Previous said the Panthers. They've got Tory Smith as out, and that's it. That's it. They've got a few that were injured. They were on the injury report. But they're gonna play. So we got safety. Mike Adams out wasn't injury. Did not that less. Cam Newton his right shoulder. Greg Olsen his foot, Julius peppers. They wouldn't let him out of the nursing home. And then a lime background Ray Smith, but they all participate in impract-. So they'll. And a Greg Olsen. Maybe we gotta watch him getting into the Carolina game. But what we think's going to happen. Are linebacker has got to step it up. They've got to be on point this game. Because that's that's the Carolinas strength is their running game McCaffrey and the passing Dole's, and that's all I'm back of responsibility. Right. These guys have got to step it up their linebackers. I I'd like to see back with comeback. I don't think he will with this week. It seems too soon. And you know, who knows if he's in football shape and be ready for it or anything. But man, David Taylor y'all got to y'all got to step it up. Man, we need you all this week. And you didn't mention they gonna contain Cam Newton. You look at them on notes again now. I just know. Yeah. That's the thing with Cam noon. It's about containment tackling hills. Getting a sack on him is extremely difficult. So as a defense, I wouldn't even really try. I mean, I wouldn't make that the. Right. Because Cam Newton is worst enemy. You know? He's not an accurate passer. Sometimes I mean, he usually does about five balls during a game that are absolutely horrendous. Duck. Yeah, he doesn't it. If you combine that we wanna get came frustrated when you get him frustrated, he plays horrible. He does not control his emotions. Well, he's done this very well the past few years where he's gotten that zen thing. Remember what he used to sit on the sidelines? I'll mopey with the talent. Yeah. We wanted to do that. In the way, we do that. Don't chase him down make him sit in the pocket squeezed pocket in on him. Yeah. Keep a spy on him one of the linebackers for David spy. Maybe taylor. I dunno. I think David knows while enough to keep them as a spy, and if they see it's not a running play then go in for the blitz. You know, get get get came Newton frustrated and best way to do that as make him throw the damn ball. Because that's his weak point. You know? And if we have our Cornerbacks sticking to their wide receivers, which that should not be a problem funches is really the only why receiver they got on their team DJ. Moore's pretty good. He looks like he's coming up with. None of them are the shore Jackson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We should be able to stick to them like Kalou and Cam Newton's not gonna throw the ball on a rope to these guys accurately if our Cornerbacks can stay stick them spend their heads around balls common. We give them interceptions. I said that last week, and we could have had quite a few. But this week we can do it. But if we do that. Make Cam Newton throw the ball. He will get frustrated. That's when he gets fresh. That's a really interesting point cutter said that he's noticed Rivera has made a change in the offense this year in that they seem to be focusing on getting yards after catch without their whole throw team is very physical and their receivers will catch the ball. And to try to run you over because camp camp makes those bombs down the field. They have any chance at a twenty thirty yard -ception. It's gonna be because we're Seaver our extended the play the Kim kick without the ball. He could sell it deep. He's right. You never know where it's gonna lay that's the problem. So I'm not worried about that not worried about the deep balls. What I'm worried about his frustrate? Because what Bill don't grind you down Carolina's going to grind you down first team run. I gene five point one yards here and Cam Newton average five yard, right? Yeah. He will run quick. But if if we keep that pocket contained have a spy on him. We. Could stop it. You know and make him throw the ball. That's what we wanna do. We wanna make him some of the ball. One of the things that's happened with us into pass is we just try to rush and add him. You know, we'll blitz and all that stuff. And then we'll flush him out of the pocket. He's gone. You know, I can't tell you. How many times I screened it to the TV? Why are you doing that? You do not want. Cam Newton running. He's a big guy. They need to have like JP on JP is a good size maps for him. And it makes you wonder if maybe that was part of the appeal JP they're about the same size. I now I think if JP is not a frantic player. He's very patient player to straight will set that edge out there and watch. Can we definitely need that we I think we should have a linebacker as well spine Cam the whole time. And if if he sees its past heavy bolt in for a blitz, man. Why not speaking of blitzen Carolina? Does a lot of interesting blitzes? They do a lot of cornerback blitzes, but and Keithly Keithly does that all the time where he'll sit back there and Susie sees. It's not a run home run in. I don't know if it's if he's they've given. Him the freedom to make that decision his own. But he doesn't quite often. So he'll be a fifth Blitzer fifth rusher. I saw a tweet that Ron Rivera made the comment the key to getting Fitzpatrick pressure. Giving him do that. Because Fitzpatrick is much quicker to pull the ball down. Ron James Winston fits looks like he plays almost like a spread offense and college where he'll check his first two or three reeds and via ain't got nothing run. I could see that's probably going to pressure us. They don't have problem blitz and five six seven guys at any point in the game. They do a lot of quarterback blitzen to so fifth factor is going to have to keep his head on swivel, and again are running back to very very good at picking up the blitz. So hopefully, they'll keep running back back there with him, which they they almost always do. There's almost always running back back there with the quarterback. They'll do a blitz check and then whole run out for passive if there's nobody coming in. But we're going to have to be very very. Aware of that, you know, they are going to try to kill Fitzpatrick. And I think they're going to go for our right guard position with Ben I think you're gonna see a lot of Keithly shooting up in that gap. Yeah. Heavily the running back on that air. Yeah. You told me that are running back highly underrated for their blocking skills, but Carolina's a tough physical team. And we are not. So this is going to have to be a case of us beating them with our elites nece and not letting them grind us punch us in the face the whole gang thing. Now, we only we only watch or I only watched with you two games won the one last week against the Ray then and then watched the their loss Washington. And frankly, I was not done impressed with them and they're not making these banks Blache plays. They're not boring. But there's just a not not a lot going on. They do a lot of tricky plays on offense. A lot of that a read option stuff, and and all that. But it's all basically running plays and their passes. They're not making spectacular catches make huge plebeian thinking dunking and. Yeah, exactly. So while they're getting a yardage. They're kind of grind out. If they're going to try to do that with us because they don't want our offense having the ball. That's our. I mean, we're the best offense in the leaves tramps. So they're going to try and keep it out of our hands. And because they know once we get the ball. We're most likely going to score, you know, so they're just going to try and grind down the field of slow as they can. I now that they're again team. I just wasn't really impressed with what I want to. I think we could beat them. I think it's win. All I know you're looking at me like I'm crazy on the thrall throw the ball. I guess, but I think I think it's going to be very very difficult for us to do it the way we're going to have to do it is, you know, implement all the things Ralph just said. What we're going to have to get the long balls over the. Yeah. I don't think we're going to have any problem at all doing that. It's just whether fits Magic's going to have time. Yeah. I think OJ how are we going to have a good game? I think showing Jackson is going to have a good game. Mike always has. I think freeze is not God. Right in the middle there. Well Fitzpatrick's doesn't throw the Humphrey. I don't even know. I caught a ball before Winston came back, but Godwin. He'll probably have the same. I think our receivers are going to exploit their their secondary. Well in another thing if it's ever third one or third short. They always quarterback. Cam newton. Always they've been doing that for what seven years now. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen them run anything other than a quarterback. Sneak always know that's gonna I mean. I mean it drew Brees can just fall forward and make the yardage Cam Newton's doing it. Plus, yes. So hopefully, we can pull another one of those who was at Whitehead came around the corner whether Taylor and grabbed him from the hand tackle all that fourth and inches on the. The Cleveland game. Yeah. So we can do that against Cam. But they do have a tricky and tough officer whole team is tough. They're very physically fight for every inch to our team. Saw. It's not a good combination. I still think I'm optimistic. So what's your prediction? I'm gonna go twenty eight twenty four vodka near what? Yeah. Twenty eight twenty four buccaneers. That's funny because I've got twenty eight twenty five Carolina. Well, I hope you're right. I hope you're right. Make it definitely happened. I could see us throwing some monster bombs against these guys. That thing is division games are just different. So. Yeah, that's that's it could go to way, there's division games. You never know. It's really it might end up. Just being the bounce of the ball. You know, we might get fifteen turnovers this game we're due for a lot of turnover. Those things usually come in bunches. And we haven't gotten anything along. Well, have laid that we turn overs in our favor. Not the other way around. Gosh. Yeah, man. It makes me sad. Fitzpatrick goes out there and plays a goose egg. I don't think he will. I think he I think he has team behind him. And I think that they need to win. He's got that drive to win. We definitely we're still in this. I mean, we are still in the, you know, we're not wanted seven or something. We are. We are in the thick of the hunt. So let's go out there and win then you'll linebackers y'all. Go get off the blocks cover Olsen spy on Cam. Stop McCaffrey defensive line dude that containment Vida avai plug of that mental Cornerbacks. Stick to your receivers. Turn you can heads around get an interception or to it'd be nice offense of line but stout, but gonna come at you hard running backs pick up the blocks and the Fitzpatrick throw them bombs man because I can tell you this after watching last week and then offense of game plan. And this has been all year we have to get fit tastic offense of game plans. If we do anything like we did last week offensively week we could. Score twenty touchdown. That's what I'm saying. Like, you said did you say earlier that now I was listening to a podcast earlier today? And they were talking about Fitzpatrick when he had his breakdown with it was was a spokesman Bruce podcast, probably they they were talking about fits Hatcher game three wincing back. And it's like almost that the monkey on his back that Winston over his shoulder kind of looming. They have the possibility of Winston coming in as a fence really screws it up, and if it's dead almost that it's like fits can't take the pressure of someone else being back there. He's not the guy. So now, we know Winston isn't the guy right now. Instead Winston isn't really a threat. Winston lost the job and Fitz has it fits of has to do his thing. And that's all he has to do that. And protect the ball. I think that's his main main thing protectable because if he starts throwing turnovers out there. Everybody's going to go. We could just have Winston it doing this. Right, right. I think all the momentum is and Fitz favor though. I think he's going to have a good game. So I have Sal because I picked him up in the condo choosing ahead of me on the waiver wire I've got Jameis Winston. So I was going to switch them out. She picked him up snagged him. I'm playing my nemesis as weak uneven fence, then it's every man for himself. That's true. All right. So that's our predictions Malia Saint twenty eight twenty four buccaneers Ralph is saying twenty eight twenty five Carolina hate picking against the buccaneers. But this game just looks. It's you know, you're going up against a soft team up against a hard team. And in those cases, normally the tough team normally wins. I mean, we've got to elite wide receivers we Can Tho some BAAs, but that's totally contingent on Fitzpatrick not getting killed. You know, he's gonna. Blow up our offensive line most likely, and we'll just see it's it's really what it's gonna come down to if our offense of line can hold and if our linebackers can do their job will win will win the game. If that has, but if our offense offensive line breaks down, I don't be able to do anything they'll just to steamrolls work for winning this one. Well, I'll tell you what I was impressed with the Cincinnati performance, our offensive line, and really really impressed. I mean, if they can turn it around like that in a week to to to shut Atkinson like that one of the best in the league that was oppressive. So yeah, we can do it. So here's to hoping here's to hope. Already fellas till next week. We'll probably have an instant reaction after the game. Hopefully, we won't be too drunk, and we'll be happy because we won and what we got to start doing. We're going to start having bets. A bet stuff. I like to have bucks. Bruce did that with beer bets? We'll do that love beer bets. Okay. 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[202] Bucs news, playoff discussion and Bonus: Ralph gets on his soapbox

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[202] Bucs news, playoff discussion and Bonus: Ralph gets on his soapbox

"Every year in the nfl. It's a new team as far as goals go. We have one putting the finger observer. Podcast is out phillips bay. There's december second twenty twenty. I wonder if people realize that. I cannot hear any of that. Probably just have to pretend like. I'll do a little dance. I can't hear you could put your headphones on. But molly cannot have any delay because she just totally locks up my brain nosy. That i'm like a half to hear everything. And if i'm talking and i hear it at the same time but like two seconds lehner it's it's too much so it's really funny. We spent a lot of time. Getting hooked up to where there's no delay in. She doesn't even wear headphones. So there is no delay. Thank can listen to it. You can listen to it. I think it has as the earbuds earbuds. I have our children's earbuds which i have small ear holes so i mean they kinda fat but there are a little uncomfortable there to shore if nothing else. We are fully masters of excuses ear holes. Too small the small earl's it's been a couple of days. We got a relatively decent podcasts. Were denied going to be a lot of preaching in this one. Probably some media likes that. It's only three of the bi week. And i feel like it's been a long three days. It's going to be long two weeks now. i feel like i'm just like scrounging for buck stuff Yet the we're going to cover some of the stuff from the chiefs game some of the way. The media's reported it tony romo we're gonna talk about how fans have reacted. We got some canoes to catch up on. And we've got just us being awesome. How about that. So strap in buckle up. We gotta come into you. Know fact checks a follow up short. Because i'm not doing that anymore. Apparently love the fact check follow ups because sapping i was always i stopped doing it because i got too much other stuff on my plate. That's my excuse again. This would be a good segue. You know one of the things that we've reason why we do. The fact check some followups to hold ourselves accountable. We don't want to get on here in a bunch of crap know. Be wrong. And not hold ourselves accountable. So that's what you're looking like sure. Listeners might disagree disagree with what nothing that anyhow. The fact checking keep us accountable and we. We started as podcasts. If you're not familiar with our whole back story everything we're going to break it down a little bit for you here. We started his podcast. Because we got really tired of the media. You know when you get buccaneers information you got a very very limited amount of people that are give. You buccaneers information. Got bug news media. And then you've got the national talking heads on the sports networks are going to talk about loan that he'll get much and you get some some fan forums and gatherings knowledge stuff but when you want to really get buccaneers information you have to go through certain. Let's well. we watched for years and years and years and we started noticing that these outlets were controlling information and they were saying things that were incorrect in order to boost certain individuals up and they were saying things that were incorrect noted a tear certain individuals down. We documented this for years and it was. It was kind of a big big eye opening for us as to how all these things operate. It's not about getting truth. Information out to the fans. It is really about controlling the narrative and lifting up. Who you like in tearing down who you don't. That is what we saw now. It all started in two thousand eleven with rocky. Moore's two thousand ten with a great year was exciting. Josh friedman came in. We wore the throwback uniforms beat a brett. Farve wasn't aaron rodgers. Is that roger and it great. It was just like a new awakening. We got the new younger team. This was after going through some quite a few years of despondency under jon. Gruden seeing all of our star players retire or leave the team and the have remorse. Moore's come in and does really bring a lot of energy was exciting. Two thousand eleven rolled around we we. We ended up going tenants. Sex in two thousand and ten with raheem morris's rookie coach. Young coach in the league never coached a team before and he. We had a bunch of young guys. We didn't have a huge salary cap. We have garett blunt. Mike williams josh freeman to leave to leave. I think dead ten sixty seven was two thousand ten this. He came in in two thousand nine when he started so that was the second year. Okay okay yeah so there you go back and follow up. So the two thousand eleven rolls around and everybody was excited. Buccaneers started off like gangbusters. We would just roller think we to and we went to play in london. We flew over there. We played the chicago bears and we got out and we just laid an egg. The team was flat. Nobody look like they were trying. No defense no defense obviously was like forty five to three or something it was. It was a very game and we ought to be shocked but it was well. You know it is london you got jetlag and all that good stuff so you know we didn't really think about it. Within the rest of the season happened we didn't win. A game for the rest of the season ended up going twelve and four and four hundred would have been nice twelve four now we went four and twelve and we sat there and we watched this team full of players who had almost made the playoffs the year before. Give up on this team. They wouldn't tackle they wouldn't catch. They weren't playing. We knew something was wrong. What we couldn't figure it out and the media wasn't talionis. They totally ignored it. All they did was sit there and go all. They're playing their playmate employment but we could see it as fans that this team had quit on. Roy moore's well then ryan morethe ended up getting fired and they brought him greg yana. Now the reason why they fired greg or fired rahim. Moore's in hired. Greg was because of the personality problems. The character problems they were having little locker room now. We didn't find out about this until after the season when they fired him. We were like what what is going on here and come to find out you know. You've got legare. Blonde and dr jackson and a key to leave. And you know they're all going out to the strip clubs do drugs and where he morris was with them and all this good stuff but we didn't find that out through the news media. We found out through other avenues. Fan forums ankarlo falls and tampa. Khanna knew everybody in. That'll get us to the josh freeman story. So you know we're we're kind of befuddled. We're we're like what is. Why didn't the media report any of this while it was going on. And then we got graciano greg. Xiang oh was very strict. He very disciplined. He had a lot of rules. He kept temperature in all of meeting rooms of the certain degree he expected player to have their toes on the line. Derm pre-game workouts and loves good stuff and a lot of the players didn't like it you know. They re used to raheem morris. Oh kellen winslow was on the team. That's right which again we're gonna talk about him in the media. So we've got greg. Xiang comes in and cleans house. He gets rid of a lot of players. And a lot of the players i really liked garrett learn garrett blunt heartbreaking for me where we got rid of him and but i really liked graciano. I liked his style like he was defensive minded and i like the way he did his press conferences. 'cause he talked to the fans when he did his press conference. Some of best press conferences. I've ever watched you know. He was just really truthful in talk to the fans. He talked right past the reporters. Well anyhow come to find out greg. Yano was not real open with the reporters in the sense that he didn't give them access to players. There was times in the when he was in college. Coaching rutgers where he would keep the reporters in a certain section kind of like a little dugout section and they didn't like that reporters like to be treated special. They like to be you know given their little Buffet tables the press boxes there access to players. They're they. they've got their own attitude to how things are supposed to be. Well they didn't like greg seattle and coming into the coaching thing journalist all across the nation. Were just too pounded gregg giannotti. About how horribly is these bad personnel. Good stuff. well it weighed. It didn't take long for the local media to catch onto that train and they started attacking him nothing. It was year two. We had the mercer outbreak. A josh freeman collapsed and there was just a mess of stuff going on and the media just went crazy they. They attacked gregg giannotti. Chance they got and come to find out they were wrong. They were wrong. They were using anonymous sources that they were using gossip. Rumors all the stuff saying graciano. Christiano did the captain's vote himself. He changed the boats that that he was trying to get rid of josh freeman because he wanted my glennon. I mean there was just all kinds of crazy stuff. All of it without evidence but the media japan independent panel basically the whole fan base against graciana and this was also wind whole anti bullying campaign was gone on nationwide. And so everybody was calling graciano a bully so we sat there and watched all that and it was really tough for molly because molly as a. She's very optimistic and happy person me. I'm the kind of personality she's agreeable. I'm disagreeable fi. So i'm all up in the middle of all that mess and i'm fight with people in. Mali wants sports to be fun. It's fun for me. You drink some beer. You watch some dudes at each other fried foods. Like what jovan shitzu people she had gone through seeing the raheem morris breakdown and then she had to watch the fan base. The media turn on greg ciano and it was just no fun for her. She actually stopped watching football for like a year and the the viciousness from the media was really what made us go. What is going on because this. This is not what we're seeing on the field and this is not what we're seeing in the press conferences and is not what we're seeing in all twenty two. Yeah the press conferences. Were the big thing because we like never missed a press conference a hardly very rarely did we miss one and he was so like jovial pleasant cordial. Yeah and they just said like awful things about his press conferences. And i'm like. Are you people even watching. Like i think they kinda counted on people not actually watching them. Yes which seems to be a thing that they count on people not fact checking and following them up. So i started. I've been watching game phil ever since a game pass has come out. Used to be called something different. I can't remember what it was called. But the they pay me line rain everyone. Yeah that's right a day. it came out. I got it. And i've been watching game film on the buccaneers a ever since and i watched gerald mccoy a lot and at this point in time the media was talking about him as though he was the second coming of jesus christ and they were talking about him getting double team all the time. If you go back and read any article from dodd say two thousand and twelve to two thousand eighteen. And every time they mentioned jerem mccoy's name was followed by the amount of pro bowls he did had and how many sacks he had that season and the fact that he was double teamed all the time i mean they couldn't open their mouth of that saying it but i'm sitting here and i'm watching all twenty two and i'm seeing. He's not getting double teamed. I'm like we're what are they talking about. Where are they getting this. Double team mess from and there were times when like clinton mcdonald's being double learning more than him more michael barr. I don't think michael is on the team by them. But you know everybody else. Who's double team more than him. Right steps and everything. And if you go back to the whole buccaneers observer. Old articles i would post the double team stats and jerry mccoy was one of the lowest guys would get double teamed so i found a very strange within come to find out that a general mccoy was always in front of the camera. Who's always giving interviews. I saw him with on a stephen colbert. Were we had a losing record that year. I want to say we were to four and twelve again or or something of that nature. But yet here's jerem coil. On stephen colbert given an interview. Stephen colbert. I'm i was like what is going on here. What is that all about. So then i started looking into a bunch of stuff and come to find out. Gerald mccoy had the same agency as a stephen colbert. The same agent. And it's the largest agency in the world. So gerald mccoy really really knew how to market himself and he he paid a lotta money to a lot of people to make sure he got mark did well but one thing he did know he was very good at was be friendly to the media. And you can't get much more of a friendly to the media. The german coy was. There was never a camera that mccoy would not get in front of a microphone in the media loved him. The local media loved him because he would always give them quotes. He would always give them an interview. After every game. They would crowd around his locker room. And he would you give them interviews and then come to find out you know. He had their personal cell phone numbers he would call them up and talk till now we speculate. We don't know for sure. We speculate that a lot of the rumors and stuff that came out during the great shadow time and the lovey smith was coming straight from jerem. Coy and of course. Sarah mccoy couldn't manipulate the media. The way he wanted him and they would go along with it. They're like oh. German doesn't like this guy will trashing say oh. We heard this about this player. This coach and blah blah blah and makes the whole fan base is attacking player that coach. So we started watching all this and then finally we got fed up with it. We said okay. I think it was the lovey smith air. Or was it the cutter smith. Because lovey smith comes in they. They finally ended up running. Greg xiang they ran greg out of town to bring in lovey smith. Greg was still on the coaching staff. And all the bucks media are talking about. Oh we can get lovey smith. Let's get lovey smith. Why don't we hire lovey smith and sure enough. That's exactly what happened. And they treated lovey smith with kid. Gloves kid gloves like he was. You know basically black. Jesus they actually there was. I think it was dot com. Put it out of scott smith that did a hundred days of left he he. I got hired for hundred big essay. Expose lovey smith i as the hundred days. Yeah and lovey. Smith won the first thing he did when he got hired. Was he fired. He cut our whole offensive line and this was a pro bowl offensive line. Would they had a down here the year before. But you know donald penn. I think it's still in. The league are left tackle if the time but he fired our whole offensive line and we had to deal with that for years and years and years were still. We're just now getting to the point where we have a stable offense and i think in the past two years you could say it will before then if you recall we've had a horrible offense land we've had to deal with flops swap and people out and getting free agents and all this good and it was all because of smith he came in and just i've never seen it before a head coach. Come in and just blow up a whole unit like that. The media didn't say word and opposite. They're freaking out. I was like this cannot turn out to be good and sure enough it and we ended up going really bad get first pick in the draft and dame's wisdom and all that good stuff. I'm we had to endure. Josh mccowan. i was pregnant that year too so there was no beer. It will the worse that was miserable football. So anyhow we saw this going on and we said okay. We just can't deal with this anymore and there's so much that's not being told or that's being told incorrectly that we feel like we need to get our voice out there and you know. Kind of counteract. Hold the press accountable. Nobody was doing it at the time. Hold the press accountable and we felt like there was a there was a lack of education with the fan base. They were relying too much on the words of the press to get the information so then we decided let's start doing videos and all twenty two and just start you know. Let people see that. There's more to it than just what the press says. So that who is the one of the reasons why we started as podcast. An example of how absolutely bad the press is is kellen winslow and we've talked about hill quite a few times on this podcast now. Kellen winslow. you're not aware was just sentenced to a very long time in prison for rape of multiple people. Keller wednesday junior used to be a tight end for the buccaneers and he was a good tight end. He did as well but he did have. Attitude problems with greg. Shannon came in he immediately took off to state to seattle and went into seattle and mocked gregg. Giannotti your total. Oh of course. The media played that a gazillion times. They were just so happy with the keller winslow because he was against xiang now. Same thing happened with michael bennett. Michael bennett went to seattle and he had an option to stay here in buccaneers but he he didn't wanna stay. He went and then go with their star. Talk crap about great show there too so of course. Everybody loved michael bennett because the media hated ciano not just local media but the national media and it came out later that they admitted to this that they said when when graciana was hired they were gonna do everything they could to get rid of own. I've got that documented so now back to keller winslow junior. He ends up being a complete freak. Apparently it comes out once. He gets convicted of these rates. Charged with these rapes. After he's been out of football for a few years and had been to like fourteen he played for the jets and the bra or he came from the browns as we got it from the browns and he He was with the patriots for getting what he rounded league after he left us. Seattle august stuff but we find out later after he gets arrested. News years after the league that the guy has a complete sexual problem he used to carry like blow up dolls or sex doll torso case in case he would travel with this. He'd take it on the plane and we think that this might have something to do with the two thousand eleven breakdown that the buccaneers had gone through chicago. But we never we have never gotten anything from the media about that about the chicago thing and they never ever ever said anything about. Keller winslow now. Apparently this was widely known. Everybody knew it but nobody said anything about it. Until after he got arrested he was watching. Porn jerking off in the locker room. Like i just find it hard to believe especially someone who has no filter no control of themselves. I mean think about all the female media members you think someone like that is and that's in fact one of the things he's accused of is Jerkin it in front of some old lady in a hot tub. You think he wouldn't have done that to like a female media member just this. They knew they knew. They chose not to say anything because they probably like the guy he gave good interviews or whatever gave them access and plus he hid shadow so check off boxes for immediate was concerned. They were going to say anything bad about him. So anyhow all this is going on and we said okay. We're going to start a podcast where we try to hold them accountable. We try to hold everybody accountable and you get get a more educated fan base on and let them see some of the stuff that we see. Well we said at the beginning of the year. When tom brady came that you know there's a lot of people don't like tom. Brady's matter of fact it's thirty one other teams at the like tom brady. And there was a large possibility that the media is going to do everything they can to create as much dramas they can with. Tom brady common here because they loved that i mean. Espn might as well be called. Tmz of sports. They they live for this stuff and tom brady is just a huge all right so we said be careful of the media trying to divide the fan base the team ownership and all that. Good stuff we we. We quite a few podcasts. On that actually they because they have attempted it once that i can recall maybe twice. Well i think it's happening again. We were watching the roundabout way to get them what we want to talk about watching the game. Sunday listening to tony rama talk. I was just flabbergasted amazed at what he was saying because it was completely not true completely. Not true my eyes have seen the exact opposite of what he was saying. My eyes were seeing on the field day. Exact of what he was saying. But yet somehow i find this very strange. What he said has now been broadcast amplified in repeated by the national media and the local media. And it's filtered down to our fan base. Our fan base has been in a tizzy over. Bruce arians and tom brady and bruce arians not running the right offense for tom. Brady us not running. Enough pre snap motion or post snap motion or in snap motion or play action or tom. Brady's routes I was sitting there. Watching. tony robbins. tony romo. We were excited about him. Comment commenting on the game. And then when. The buccaneers didn't come out strong. He just started trash mean. He attacked the buccaneers but he attacked the coaching staff. And that's what he was doing. The whole time as he was attacking the coaching staff. And i it makes me wonder what what's the alterior motive behind that because the players could have been attacked very easily. As a matter of fact. I would put more of the blame on the blair players by far her than on the coaching staff. But tony romo. Didn't he chose to basically say the coaching staff screwing up now. Tony romo not the only one. We've had a whole cascade of characters who have jumped on the bandwagon. Everybody had the tmz. Sports has jumped on the bandwagon. Dan orlovsky dan quinn. Who used to be the coach of the jets. The guy snacks guy rex ryan brexit jumped on the bandwagon way. Good lord. yeah you've got you just gotta everybody is putting into. We watched a clip from the nfl. I don't ever watch these people. i think. Good morning football. I don't ever watch it. It was the first. I'd seen him the other day. Y'all got a whole list of videos of people just trashing approaching state catalyst my list but tony romo's wrong. He was wrong in what he was saying. I was sitting there while it was going on going. I can't believe he saying this win. It was really. I want to say ignorant now. I don't know tony. Romo got ulterior motives if he's trying to stir up some drama or if he doesn't like coach arians or bowls or left which i don't know what his incentive for doing that was. I want to say that it was just because he was bush. Yeah as you sit there for three or four hours pretty hard job. They got to come up with stuff to save for three or four hours. They can't have dense space. They got constantly comment on stuff and they got to act like they know what they're talking about. Even when ninety percent of the time they don't none of how. I don't pay taste of what they're saying i don't either. I'm like horrible martin ralph. Ob like did you hear that. And i'm like now what they say you just tune them out because to me. They make game worse a lot of times. I don't even for years. I i would just turn them off and put music on but now i keep them on because we wanna make sure we don't miss any information. They exception as idealistic collins. I think even idiot. And i like to make fun of him. He's he said that. As i listened for the double entendre. That makes it fun to now. Tony romo started off. After we we went three and out they went down to the chiefs. Went down the field and they scored three points and we get the ball. We go three now and tony. Romo just started taking these lower jabs. Take jabs at playcalling. You've taken jams with the big jab e had just found. This substrate was the lack of motion. I don't. I don't know what game he was watching the very first play. We had motion. I put together a bunch of clips from the game and you know we do motion a lot. Brady calls motion quite a bit. And that's the thing brady calls motion. I just found it very strange. How tony romo was blaming the coaching staff for not putting motion into the game. I play calling plays with motion when he of all people. He's an ex quarterback. He knows it's the quarterback that calls for another are designed plays with motions but ninety nine percent of the time. It's the quarterback that calls for motion. So if there's no motion being called it's the quarterback that doesn't want the motion but roma was sitting there on national national. Tv saying that the coaching staff was not implementing. Enough pre snap motion. Now there's been people that have been arguing whether he was talking about the pre snap motion or at the snap motion from what i heard. He was talking about pre motion. But then you know after this all kinds of stuff blew up. All of a sudden is at the snap. Motion became the issue which you the kind of rewriting comments. It's like. you're trying to gaslight. So you know tony romo knows that. It's the quarterback that calls for motion when he wants to figure out what the other you know whether the defense is gonna run zone. Her main he can't figure it out. Look into formation whole called somebody emotion. Where does that ridiculous like. He's little league twenty years. Do you really think he needs that much. Motion of defense know. He's like blaming the coaching staff for this. And i'm just sitting there going. What does it doesn't make any sense of. What is he talking about. You know and it's really the reason why we have this pocket so that we can call out stuff like this. Because you know it's up to brady to do that and what happened is tony. Romo said bad the national media pick up on it. They just started pounding away at it. You can't turn on a damn radio station or watch. Tv program sports channel. Now without somebody. Sit there complaining. About how bruce arians using tom brady effectively. And we've heard this before we've heard this with gregg giannotti who'd the media at mike remember. We had a great run. Defense horrible secondary. And everybody said oh you know we gotta get somebody for segment. So what. Greg shana do. He went out. And he got daryl rivas best cornerback in the league and then we ran him zone instead of mankind so everybody that everybody was saying christianity in years dowry was effectively. Yeah so it's one of those when they wanna find stuff to attack you for they just going to do it you know get around it that net also brings me up to whatever happened to the zone coverage issue that everybody was talking about for the past few weeks. You know what happened to it. Crossed davis got burned for touchdowns in man coverage. That's what happened to it or that we're not using the tight ends. Yeah gronk had one hundred yard day. Yeah you know any. He started having a good game in so then that narrative just disappeared. They try and they have been trying. You know and i think a lot of it is that we're not doing as good as everybody expected. So people are trying to figure out why. So they're coming up with silly stuff to me. It's real simple not catching the ball. We're not tackle. The be is the difference in the game. If you look at the game city game we went three and out. Because we threw a bomb to mike evans. That went right through his hands and that clay would have put us in field that would put us on their fifteen. If he would caught that would have been a field goal medal. Chances are pretty good. You know we do really good and red zone. So we probably would've gone a touchdown we would have been up seven three if nothing else. It would have been three two three. But mike evans cash rent his hands. You didn't hear anybody complain about that. Nobody there were four. Dropped passes that i in the first quarter by the bucket ears. Maybe the first quarter and a half but three of them were on third downs. Nobody is talking about. They're going went into this game. According to the petition 's were were the third highest dropped rate receivers in the league. Nobody's talking about it. Nobody's using that as an excuse as to why we are doing as well now. There are as weird because that was the excuse about tom. Brady last year was. He was not on the same page with his receivers. Yes receivers suck. They kept and passes right. And you got the same thing going on here. There's a miscommunication between quarterbacks and receivers cup said ever since aaron has been here that the very complex offense for the quarterbacks and receivers aid they really have to pay attention to. What's going on. So you know you have those breakdowns and people will midge. But they won't go. That's that's a really big part of why we are not ten. And what would we be ten one or whatever because of all the drop passes and missed tackles. Now let's go to the tackles tyreek hill catches the ball. He's running down the field. Mike edwards comes over totally whiffs on him. It happened twice where we missed tackles tyreek hill and data. What allowed him to get into the end zone. We missed quite a few tackles yesterday. We've missed tackles for the past four or five weeks that have been crucial. The rams game right before the second half they got into field goal range because of a long run after the catch where we three guys at missed tackles and that three points was the difference in the game. Wouldn't yet for some reason. The media wants to blame. Bruce arians so fans be careful out there man. Be careful what you're what you follow what you're listening to. Bruce arians has got a pretty good offense. I'm not a fan of it completely. You know it's a lot of things i would change. I would say oh. I like this more than that and everything but you know. It's gonna work you. Tom brady is having a stellar year. When you look at his stance as a matter of fact when you compare. Tom brady to all the other quarterbacks at a played in arians system especially the first year that they started in the system which is like the hardest year in normally the interceptions with through the roof. And all that good stuff. Tom brady is the best on also by far. So you know. I don't have any issues whatsoever with how they're running this team. You know the the only issue i have is that players aren't catching the ball. And we're missing tackles not horribly. We're dropping the ball every time and it's not like we're missing every tackle scrubs out there but key points were missing. It's just like we're not firing on all cylinders. Her struggle most definitely. Yeah yes if we play a plus football. There's nobody other beat us. I don't think we brought our plus game yet even against green bay. What did i say we play minus to say that bruce arians is not advertising. Tom brady or not letting tom brady. Be part of the offense and forcing him to play in place. He doesn't like such a load of crap. Read read bruce arians book brazilian says in his book and he says is their conferences quarterback his court about his relationship with the quarterback is the most on the team and he wants the quarterback to be heavily involved at every aspect of the office. He wants him to help design plays when they they script plays in. Bruce arians brought this up his press conference after the game. He said that all teams around the league now script the first their first fifteen plays their fifteen best place okay. That was new to me. I didn't know that. Now i knew that bruce arians in his book he said they strip the first thirty plays. But i think Last year he had said the baron left which is doing. Just the fifteen. I think i'm not sure. I found the book. Said the first fifteen plays pretty shows thirty because i was like wow. That's that's a lot of plans that's half the game at into the third quarter so you've got scripted. Plays and also. Tom brady gets to pick those plays. I think it's five five. That bruce arians said that he lets the quarterback. Pick his five favourite plays in. Put them in those fifteen. So these are these. are those some of those planes. are tom. brady plays you know these are the ones he's picked out that he likes bruce arians again a big old book a place. Yeah like a thousand players in that Right so tom brady gets to pick five of them and the other fifteen or scripted show. It's just so strange to me that people look at that and go. Oh yeah oh really involved in this offense then you know if he's getting picked plays and You know when you have scripted plays and that means you there's not a whole lot of deviation you're gonna do for the first quarter. Ba said that. Tom brady pick supplies. Tom brady's calling plays. That'd be news to me. Yeah now it was out this week. Well anyhow the point being that there's no problem between those two even got the media is trying to bring one up trying so hard they try to early. Yeah earlier in the season. Yeah here's a usa. Today headline bruce arians continues to tom brady. Under the bus quote he picks all the plays now. That was from two days ago so the media is trying to either format division between the two or they are just wanting to make it. Look like there's a division. I don't our there one one donau but they're being disingenuous. Can't you just can't say stuff like that. I mean it's just rumor and speculation for one and for two. There's plenty of other stuff. You could write about plenty of more stuff that fans would like to hear other than this gossip. High school drama drama. That they're trying trianon bring. Oh so anyhow. There were two things that we talked about this week that i would like you to discuss talking about what rick stroud said on his podcast about Guys like tom brady michael jordan. That kind of thing. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah yeah rick. Set on his podcast that you know michael jordan tiger woods. Tom brady all these extremely elite athletes love it. Love it when you tell them. They can't do something or that they're not going to be able to do something or that. They're failing or something like that. They feed off of like look at aaron rodgers. Still fifteen years later has a chip on his shoulder about where he was drafted because he was embarrassed to sit there in the draft. Yeah so rick. Stroud like dina this my light a fire on a brady's but it might be because he's probably a little pissed the discount terror. What's her face from sex in the city. What's her name. Sarah jessica parker discount. Sarah jessica parker from tmz sports. Ask tom brady. If you know about the rumors about them. not getting along hillman. Bruce arians and was just like it's just noise it's noise and that's when he walked out a press conference right walks but i mean he wasn't rude or anything which is like all right guys. That's it which they're trying to make a big deal about that in two but people all the media people in new england are like. Yeah no he did that sometimes. He hates luccin like he hates that. Like the whole with the other quarterback from not congratulating the other quarterbacks after the game like he just hates losing yes. I don't particularly like that but again it's like he's just competitor. Doesn't wanna lose. And yeah he might act alone pissy. But he's the goat so he can act out tower he wants. He's been throw some great. Football's it's spectacular that one that won't he dropped in my calves. Hand it actually didn't go through his hands and went beside him. Setting about things drop is that it's like it's right through their hands and it happened with antonio brown a couple weeks ago and you're just like hits you in the hands you have to catch. If it's an armed heck these guys get paid millions of dollars. Kmart great had third down right to his hands. I mean he allegory. Gregg allman brought up a good stat. Because i gotta find a it is I was screaming about this too during the game. Like certain to why are we not running the ball. Why do we keep passing it. And it was a little frustrating for me. And that's where i was like. Yeah okay the play calling in like a suspect here or it could use some improvement. I don't like those calls. But gregg allman ran down the stats. And it's he said third and two is more often than not a passing down in the nfl across the league on third into this year there were two hundred eighteen half plays with fifty nine percent. Conversions versus a hundred and fifty. Three run plays and sixty one percent conversion on third in three plays. There were two hundred and sixty two passes with a fifty five percent conversion and seventy runs soon to hundred and sixty two passing two seventy runs. And that's on third and three. So it's you know it's a pretty big disparity between the two and so it's not abnormal in the league to pass on a thirteen to thirty three and we've got guys that can catch the ball normally and we have plenty of designed. Plays that you get guys to where they can catch the ball for two or three yards. It's just. I don't know if very frustrating but i will hand it to the bucks media that they fought back on this Joe bucks fan immediately was calling this crap out there like no. Y'all are being silly then. Drama between ba and yeah and the. Tony roma's off. Dan orlovsky in the national media. Trying to act like there's areas is the problem. Yeah i did. Read an article from joe bucks fan where they said. Jeff darlington who is a member in new england and covered brady for a really long time. He's got sources with brady's inner circle and just come and those sources debunked this whole raft and they said he loves tampa he loves playing for. Ba have a great relationship. There's no reffed so take automous sources for what they're worth so Computer report. They put out an article that i was like man. Here they go. They're doing that but then they had an article today where they basically pooh-poohed all that stuff to The play action her not the play action the emotion stuff in the bruce arians fancy on their point now didn't know their prom. Brady's doing really good in this office. And you know remember. There was a couple of weeks the past few weeks. Everybody was complaining about how tom brady wasn't doing the deep ball. He was like eleven or something like that was last week that was scenario narrative. This week. he pops off. What like five deep balls. you know. it's just like most of the deep balls that have not been completed this year have been because the receivers either miscommunication were to their hands. But they dropped it. You know it's just like it's not tom brady. And it's not the plays plays are getting getting people where they need to go and they're just not executing and that's the thing about football you know. We talked about this a lot. About how fantasy football has changed. How people watch football see football in the. They think you could just take this guy scores touchdowns and put them on this team. And he's gonna keep scoring at many touchdown so that's what annoys me about the whole coaching thing and i. I mentioned this yesterday in the news. Iran but people think that oh we have a talented roster and all we need is a new coach to take them all the way. And it's like you guys are totally like that's not how football worth a football versus. How fantasy football might work. But that's not you know you got a new coach. They want their own guys. They don't give a crap that they're pro bowl. They might care as far as them being trade bait wise. They're bringing in their own guys. It's never a guarantee and there's so many variables involved in football. It's one of the always fascinated by how you know every single game you watch there's thirty stats that they that have been broken is always records being broken in every game. And that's because there's so many variables that in any given game. There's probably a million different stats. That could be broken. We don't ever pay attention to all the staff at army broken there is that they're just gonna find all these she's strange stats could bring up and go. Hey look you're the record that was broken or whatever that's weird one. There's just so many variables that you can't ever predict what's going to happen in football now when we talk about schemes and plays like the play action stuff and the motion and whether they're doing fertile routes or you know a west coast office. Whatever it's everybody seems to leave out that the players have to execute this crap. I don't care how good your scheme is. How innovative if you don't have gossip block tackle catch the ball though the ball this is it's worthless brings that up in his book. He says about fifty percent of plays are broken plays they. Don't go as their so. That's half of all your. Please not going as designed right so right there. You're starting off. You got a fifty percent success. Rate if you're lucky and that's what happened with the chiefs game if you if you would've taken the to quarter the to half and flip them everybody would have thought. The buccaneers were the best team on the field immediately. We were just dominant where we dominated that game pretty much after the first quarter scored ten more points. We scored twenty four. You know we held them. We stopped on and we gave. Were giving them three and outs. We stopped them down in the red zone a couple times and they really could do a whole lot. And if have taken us half and flip them show in the first half first or the second half. I and everything. It would have been a completely different narrative that was sad. But if you take if you take one hundred people in our cinema room and you have them all flip coins hundred times. You're going to have one person that gets fifteen or twenty heads in a row. This is a statistics thing. They actually some interesting stuff behind on that. But you can actually tell the difference between a random coin flips and people actually sitting down and writing coin flips. The if you say yeah you could tell because people don't understand that a when you flip coins one hundred times you're going to get a long string of either heads or tails eventually. That would seem abnormal. But it's not abnormal. It's usually what happens. And that's what happens if football would you try to. do you. Just try to string together a bunch of good coin flips now. The person that gets twenty two heads in a row he doing other special. He's flip the coin just like anybody else but everybody was going to go check him out you go. You know. he'd probably ended up making five million a year because he flipped coin. Twenty times in a row. But that's how it worked with football. What you're trying to do is just get more of those positive. Plays on your side than the other team and you do little things to try and help the coin toss but generally. There's not a whole lot you can do you. Could you just hope that your guys execute what you draw up so that you just start off with a fifty percent chance of succeeding. That's about the best you're gonna get on any play the fifty percent chance but you know for god doesn't block or drops the ball whatever then changes go way down and that's what happened to us in the first quarter just a bunch of bad coin. Tosses dot balls missed tackles a perfect perfect pass by patrick mahomes and tyreek hill. That one pass he threw on that slant route was perfect. It was on the dime in. Strive expert freakin nature. Really wrong about that. One you're i said when i saw him he's already put him in the hall of fame. I mean maybe but towards the end of the game he was some not too good pass now if he were to start the game off like that you know the narrative would have been flipped and everybody would have talking about how great. The buccaneers were in came city. Couldn't get their act gathering blah blah blah. So it's it's all it's all very strange and got a look at it. You know gotta look at it from all different angles just like you do all twenty two football. Yeah you can see something from one angle and you go. Oh this is how it happened and you look at it from another angle and you go. That's not how it happened at all and that's happened to me so many times. Yeah it's and actually blows my mind off. All this ball got tipped. Then i'll see another angle and it was ten feet away with our the Very very crazy. You know you need to look at all this stuff from all different angles and realize you know the media. They've got their own agenda. I will give credit to certain. Local media Rick stroud has been kind of you know he he he's not really on board with the whole bash and bruce arians stuff yet you know. He's kind of like you know everybody. Calm down gregg allman to right gregg allman. The pew report did come out with an article today. That kind of the bunked all of it. They're mixed bag. I think it was at lanier. But yet they've got a lot of different personalities so tell yeah i don't know which one but the other outlets especially the tmz sports just not. I don't even want to listen to those people. It's god hell have no clue what you're talking about trying to stir up drama so with all that being said what's going to happen here i mean are we talking about. I mean we're the brady seven and five. He seven of five. He's used to being thirteen free twelve and to get stuff right trick question. i'm stats. Yeah number brady's been in this situation three times before actually his career okay. This exact same situation when two thousand and nine patriots were seven and five after week. Thirteen guess what happened. They one out. They ended up going and six made the playoffs. They lost in the first round to the ravens. Two thousand five. The patriots were seven five two week. Thirteen yes whatever. They went ten and six they would tendency ended up making a plows. K lost in the second round to the broncos in two thousand one the patriots seven five after week twelve. They had their bye week in week. Sixteen missiles background by were easy. Just what happened there. They went ten and six went to the play offs very. They went to their win. Eleven of five and ended up winning the super bowl so this is not unusual territory for tom brady. He is very well versed in what needs to be done in. He's very good at dealing it. I'll not concerned whatsoever. We talked about this in the little ten minute news the segments. We do on youtube that it's to be really really hard for us not to get into the playoffs where we're staying out there. Basically all we gotta do is two more games. okay. I have a playoff summary an update. Today you want to go through that okay. I'm don ranching okay. So the saints are still the number one seed boo after beating the bronco. The nfl just gave them a game. And they're nine and two so the saints what nothing bloggers they give them a game the nfl. That's i just said did you. Yeah you never listen to me. So the packers moved up a spot in the search for two eight and three of their one game behind the saints and so they are fighting for homefield advantage in that number one seed but the saints have a cakewalk. Walk the rest of the season. I know a shock to all of you. They get the falcons eagles chiefs. The one page vikings and panthers the packers. I mean their schedules. Pretty easy to get the eagles lions panthers titans and the bears said the titans mighty little challenge in the bears. Maybe the seahawks overtook the rams for first in the nfc west. They are eight and three. They moved up two spots in the cd and they are third seed. They're remaining opponents as ridiculous. The giants the jets the football team. Then the rams and forty niners i know. The giants moved up though most spots this week. They moved up nine spots this week because they overtook the eagles. For first in the nfc east they are four and seven. They played the seahawks cardinals. Browns ravens and cowboys. So that's kind of a rough schedule. The rams are fifth seed so they overtook. Aren't they swapped with the seahawks. We really want that spot so we can play the nfc east. They drop down three spots. They're seven and four there one game. They are worse than five. Thirty seven four so they have one less lost than we do. So that's why they're ahead of us. They play the cardinals patriots. Jets seahawks and cardinals coming up. We are in the fifty. We no change. The cardinals had no change. They are seventh seed. They're six and five. They lost to the patriots which we needed. So they're game behind us. They play the rams giants eagles forty niners and rams. The vikings won their game. They are in the hunt. So i'm just gonna go through the first three or four teams that are in the hunt They moved up a spot over the bears. they're five and six and are now seventh set seventh second. Let's see north. The bears are ninth. See their third in the nfc north. They dropped down a spot. They're five and six. The forty niners are five and six. They jumped up a spot their fourth. In the nfc west tennessee and the lions are foreign seven they fell one spot their fourth and then of even worth so and then the guys at the bottom are still all kinds of fighting it. Out and the falcons they draw or they moved up three spots. The panthers fell two spots. They switched in the nfc south. So now the falcons are third and the panthers are fourth some fun to see Fighting or not be last and then that. Nfc is is just a cluster. They're all at the bottom. So yeah the only teams we have to worry about. That could possibly catch us. Is the bears. Vikings and forty niners. Now they're all all those are all of orth two games behind us. They've got five games left to play. We've got four. If we just went to games all of them would have to win out in order to beat us but they can't because the baird vikings play each on. This one of those two can win. I mean it's it. We would have to literally implode to not make the playoffs this year and biaz. That's all i care about is making its playoffs because once gets its offer beast. Anything can happen and yes. We're not hitting on all cylinders but we're just going to get better and once you get to the play offs you never know what can happen and i d. We've got talent. The skill all the weapons to make it to the super bowl and win it and by that time we might. We might be working together. Have all the cylinders popping. So you know my my concern is getting to the playoffs right now. Making sure we get there. Really only thing i care about. I don't care if we run any play action. I don't care if we run any motion either pre snap or snap or post nap or whatever anybody was argued about. I don't care if we run man coverage zone coverage. I don't care bruce areas. Tom brady a throw throwing pitchforks. Each hour only thing. I care about is that we make it so there and with with me with me all right. We're gonna have to wrap this up. I talked way too long and i. I didn't really have any of these outlander plan so much. It's just that you know. Feel like it needs to be said when the national media. And you've got people like tony. Romo which i liked tony romo but the stuff he was saying was really nonsense nonsense and you could tell ba. Because they started asking him in the press conferences. Yesterday tuesday monday about the motion and he looked really. I don't know if you looked confused. But he was just like you know some quarterbacks like it some don't like peyton manning wanted a whole lot carson palmer didn't want any i don't know if that's what he said but it was kind of like that it was so he was just talking about it. Like yeah some quarterbacks like it some no right but you got to impression that the media had no clue that it's the quarterback's motion asking. They asked him twice. I know of can follow up. So that'd be three questions on pre stent motion and you like what he had of ritz totally confused. What why are you asking me this. He'd probably had no idea that. Tony romo was running his mouth. Yeah and then there's the whole the play action stuff with both of them. Motion is especially what people are talking about when it's aw after. Snap motion and play action. Both of those are kind of dangerous plays a lap. It can go wrong video evidence to prove it but you know play action. People might not remember because it was so long but last week when we played the rams brady threw a screen to ronald jones who didn't catch up and brady had to throw it quickly. Which is probably the reason why. I didn't catch a ball club. Go right out of round his hands but the reason why that happened while brady was under pressure is because he did play action he had his back turned to the line and he couldn't see is common in so when he turned around there was a guy right in his face and he just kind of chalked it. I mean that's a danger with play action. You know with quarterbacks got his back to the defense and when he turns around he's got to read quickly what's going on because he he's not able to see unless of course you do the sideways play action which who gets full house right in the same thing with guys in motion as a lot. That can go wrong with that. You've got penalties matter of fact. Nobody probably remembers this because it happened so long ago. But again the chiefs game tyreek hill got an illegal motion penalty for running it going in motion. I found that finding that tony romo. They just kind of glossed over that. They didn't even really say anything about him. I might see. That's one of the problems with going in motion. You're gonna get penalty sometimes and then you run into other players you know. There's there's all kinds of stuff that can happen. You know. these things are not. They're not the end all be all. They're not gonna make us a better team. You know it's gonna make a better team us. Just doing what. We're supposed to do already catching the ball. Has kathleen block a couple of guys. Maybe tackle a couple here and there blocking zeman pretty good. Oh not on specialty in right relatively all right i do have a couple of news items that i just wanna run through real quick and then we can wrap it up ready okay. The bucks cut jack city all sad so he will hit waivers and then they promoted defensive lineman jeremiah ledbetter to the active roster from the practice squad so somebody's taken jack spot already all things buccaneers dot com is reporting that a former buccaneers defensive. Tackle chris hoven was arrested for misdemeanor. Dui and felony child neglect charges. His blood alcohol content was point. Three one he pretty impressive. There wasn't any more information on the child neglect charges. I have to think that maybe there was a kid in the car when he got pulled over and it would be my assumption. But i don't know for sure. Chris played with the buccaneers from two thousand. Five to two thousand nine in two thousand fifteen. He was convicted of dui and then in twenty eighteen. He was court ordered to stay away from his family. So haiti haiti or stuff. Like i know yeah and then the last little bit. This is bucks wire on usa. Today be. I was talking about the focus during the bye week. And he said that they're gonna do self scouting and basically they're looking at analytics. Louis said we've got every play listed that we've run all season yards the average the completions basically everything statistically for the entire season and for the last four ballgames which is usually what another team breaks down so you have statistics on yourself for the whole season and the last four to know what the other team is looking at so. I just thought that was interesting. We're going look at some stats. Medics yeah he actually. He actually said anna lyrics it call that analytics but he but he didn't use it properly. It was funny. I can't remember what he said. But i was like. Yeah that's not any experience. It was cute. it was a good effort like b. I wish people not byron. I like i like every money on the bucks. Leave our team alone allowed. Yeah stop talking crap about my buccaneers zero. It makes me mad. I get upset. I know she makes me go out and act. Foolish my honor to all right We've kept us going on way too long. So we're going to wrap it up at the play more. I'd like to say i'm getting a video out on the tony romo stuff so you can visually see i was talking about when i was saying he was gonna really just pose smoke. Everybody's but But being look out for that should be tamar but until next time lax.

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[077] Picking the roster: Offense edition

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[077] Picking the roster: Offense edition

"Every year in the NFL. It's a new team. As far as goals. Go. We have one. Putting a fucker ran on a finger. Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcast. This is row Phillips. Molly bay today is June eleventh, two thousand nineteen eighty nine days to kick off, boom, done under ninety. We had some good news about training camp today. Whatever they released the schedule. You're going to be very thrilled about this starts, July twenty six the Friday that's your very thing. They Ralph sadaqa nearest got your present. Most of the practices are at four. There's two on August thirteenth and fourteenth that start at ten and then they have a six thirty practice on August third. They will have bleachers part of it might be inside all the practices that are open to the public. Correct. The players report on the twenty fifth, and then the first practice is the twenty six. That's what they all get weighed in branded like cattle and stuff. Right. Exactly. So if you wanna go to practice, you do have to have tickets, it's free admission, but you have to go through the website to reserve your spot, unless it's going to be rainy or thunderstorm. That's a word then practices going to be outside percentage is not going to have many practices inside if he can help it right. But they will have bleachers and tents them. Hot sauna bleachers, intense. I think that they're trying to mitigate the effects of the weather by having them a little bit later. After four rather than we went at ten I think, and got it was sweltering pretty bad. Pretty bad Brazilian said he wants to mimic play times as much as possible. So they're going to have wine early in the morning to simulate the London game. They're going to have some at night to simulate Thursday night games, which is a great idea. And that's part of the reason why he's not practicing in the indoor facility is that we need to use the weather to our advantage. And if our players are used to practicing in the air conditioning that kind of defeats that purpose. You disagree with that? I don't know that Tampa, heat would just sap the energy out of you. Right. But then you're used to it. Are you though? There's a whole adage of what doesn't kill. You makes you stronger accept things like now. No radiation sun poisoning. I don't know. There's a whole lot of people that live in Tampa and do just fine inside an air conditioning watches possible. But you don't ride into that. I thought it was good. Segue. We didn't get any follow ups back checks in. Get to it. Then. Right. Follow up. Tom Coughlin is seventy two not one hundred and thirty like Molly. Definitely. He's like the crypt keeper at this point thing, all when he was coach when I was going to say he's looked old for fifty years. He's one of those babies that come out looking like Benjamin button, but they don't like verse age. Getting older. Babies, you coming out, come out looking like grumpy old men, especially the Baldwin's. Our baby Lincoln grumpy. Oh man. Joe full had a hair. She did like a coma ver- she'd, like Comber follow-up, lynyrd Wester is no longer with the buccaneers. And is with the Jaguars as Molly luckily pointed that was all that was pure luck here lack. I picked team get outta here. You had a one thirty one shot getting that, right? Really wanted thirty shot. Because I knew he wasn't with the bucks anymore. Thirty one because it's thirty two teams. Okay. Math. Math. Follow up. We were talking about the franchise records at James Winston holds. Here's the ones he holds. Winston has the touchdown record for the buccaneers. He's thrown eight. Josh Freeman is second with eighty he hold yards per game at two hundred and sixty one point two second places Ryan Fitzpatrick God with two hundred and forty seven point eight, then Josh Freeman to twenty five point six okay? They have like a minimum because this numbers are skewed Ryan Fitzpatrick's play that many. He started like fourteen games, rose. All right. He played in fourteen he started ten games. So, you know, that's, that's a big sample size though. It's big enough. You're paying us. Thank you. Brad Johnson comes in. He rounded out with two hundred twenty three point two yards per game. So Jameson pretty high up there two hundred sixty one point two a lot. He second in yards. He's got fourteen thousand six hundred twenty eight. Eight yards in fifty six games. He will eclipse, Vinny Testaverde this year, Vinny Testaverde holds the record at fourteen thousand eight hundred twenty yards in seventy six games. So there's less than one hundred yard different, so he could do it. The first game bride look at James Winston had reached that level in fifty six games took Vinny testaverde's seventy six games to get there. Well to be fair in Vinnie. He didn't have Mike Evans. This is true. And he also didn't have all the rules that balance it out towards the offense either. That's true. Now that's hit for franchise records. Jameis Winston hold. However, offend an interesting thing going to these stats James Winston. We've all heard, you know, he makes a lot of Asians. It has a lot of turnovers. That's not true in a relative sense. It's just that he has been throwing the ball so much. I mean he's out there throwing the ball forty fifty times a game. It's not how it supposed to be you want to be around about thirty. So he's been throwing more. Than he's supposed to be mainly because we don't have run a game other things because we're always behind, but he has a three percent interception ratio that calculates. Passes that he throws intercept every hundred passes three of them were going to be interceptions, now, that is lower than Vinny testaverde's. Steve berg. Josh mccown Steve Young Trent Dilfer Dugway, Steve Spurrier, Brian, greasy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh Freeman. Anton king as round bucks quarterback were all booked quarterbacks. However, Byron left, which Brad Johnson. Jeff Garcia and Mike. Glennon all had better interception ratio. But again, those sample sizes, not that big for Josh Johnson. Byron left went he didn't play that many Mike, Glennon. He starting at a season right? Glenn started eighteen games for us plate in twenty one, you're correct about by left, which, though, Healy started three games rows and played in three. So. Yeah, it's still quite impressive. I was kinda surprised and you know because that's all we ever hear about with Winston and his fumbling was blow average, to don't have the staff for that right off. Another interesting thing. It's not a franchise record but a league-record most pass touchdowns. Prior to twenty second birthday since nineteen seventy merger. James Winston has twenty two. He leads that category. Second place, a Sam darnold at seventeen Drew Bledsoe. Had fifteen in Matthew Stafford had thirteen to crazy. How young James wisdom is makes me question. When I'm doing with my life. Twenty two. He's breaking foul record. Well, like I said, don't ever compare yourself to other people you don't know the struggles. They had or how easy it was. You never know. Well, if you were born born a six foot four two hundred some guy, you might have had more of a chance to make it in NFL. Molly genetics. Didn't win that lottery. We had talked about last week, some of the things we were worried about what the season that we could see Mike could possibly go wrong, an infinite number of things that could go wrong. But we were just throwing stuff out there that had been kind of on our mind. And I had said what happens if jerem click comes in week, two inches, beats us like red headed stepchildren? I mean, that would be pretty devastating for a team that's trying to together, and you're trying to get confidence in the head coaching staff, and all that, that would possibly make them go. Well, y'all really made a big mistake there. But then it dawned on me after the podcast we got the play Kwan Alexander week one the same thing could happen imagine if we go week, one get beat by forty Niners at home. Quantel exander has a great game. Gets couple interception. Maybe run one back for a touchdown or sex. James a couple of times knocked Mike Evans out of the game, who knows kinds of stuff, and it can happen. And then we go the Carolina the next week and McCoy walks on us that would destroy our season. It would take it would take a miracle to be able to pull out of that one. So it's kinda scary not that it's gonna happen. But you never know any given Sunday that wouldn't be terrible. It would definitely not help days than lights case too much. No, not at all. I mean fairy tale. We've got to win both of those games. We can't have either one of those players do good. And lose we've got to win. And we gotta shut them down. We can win and they still play. Well, that'd be fine too. Now. That's not that's case scenario best case scenario gown in win. But if we still walk away with the w it wouldn't be as concerning. But then again, it would surprise me of German toys out for that game. Yeah. Injured and training. Camper something, did you see the domico sue video of him mic'ed up at training camp? Gosh, that was so awesome. Well, those Dan was following him around, like a puppy dog. Like he was totally banned buoying, the whole time he was like I wanna learn everything, you know. Like, well, taken down on swell coming on a little strong, buddy, giving him some good advice and gentlemen. You can see why they brought him in. Because for someone like well Golson, who has played in and the team for what three four years for him to be buddying up with the veteran like that and asking him for tips, and still we weren't willing to learn from him and eager to learn from him with the team, six years. Wow. No worse that proves my point. You know, imagine if hill in those Spence really step it up and blow, it out this year, that is going to me, be a big indictment on McCoy's leadership capabilities, because I believe, looking for anything date, his leadership capabilities, drew of reading delays there, Ralph, but wouldn't met say something because, you know, a good leader makes those around him better and Goldens have been kind of he's an average. Yeah. Run stuffer. You know, he's going to right. Tasted all guy. I mean the guys started forty eight games fours played in eighty seven come on. And what do we know about him as a good run stuff? Yeah. That's it. And Noah Spence just completely fallen off the planet. So if they come in and have a fantastic year, which I think they're going to the, to me, that's really going to say a lot, of course, a lot of people say, oh, it's the coaching is. But how much of it is correlation versus Asian? I don't know we'll find out veto and I'm gonna attributed I absolutely no doing speaking of bad leadership. Did you see the window junior? Got found guilty on some of the charges and they're still deliberating some other felony charges. But the ones he has been found guilty of so far. He's gone at least minimum fifteen years. Right. He got convicted of one rape charge. I think the old lady that he jerked it in front of in the hot tub. I don't think that one. Didn't go through, and then they were still deliberating on some of them. But the rape charges the big one to shame that said, you know. In a lot of people attribute stuff like that. They'll say, oh, well, you don't see this type of stuff in NHL or the or NASCAR or the NBA or the be it seems the only be an NFL, and then they go well, it's because the or something like that. No, it's not. Nascar drivers get much more head jerkin than football players do hockey come on now. Hockey is probably one of the most violent sports, right underneath boxing? Maybe if anybody's got it's going to be those guys. I don't know. It just seems that it also there's more football players. There's what fifteen hundred somewhere in that area of football players NFL in the NBA is nowhere near that many a couple hundred NASCAR. You've only got sixty maybe in the same thing with NHL. They don't have fifty three man. Realtors in practice squad guys and all this, the NFL's larger. So, of course, you're going to have the more odd peop-. People in it, and it's a bigger sport out of all of them. And so when NFL player gets any kind of in gets in any kind of trouble, they're focusing on it, because your sport and more is on it. They're going to report on it. This is true agenda there. They want to tone down the aggressiveness in football, so then they can point to this and say, look what it does to people, it makes you a rapist, then. Football make you're right. Bas guys. They can take out the hard hits and all that nonsense. Offloaded funny how we talk about CTE and brain damage, and all that good stuff. And a lot of people that talk about it. Our former players Chris cons worth and Phil Simms to Brancheau we've discussed this, and those guys seem fine. Well, maybe not Terry Bradshaw. On every every TV appearance. I love watching him on TV for you know, he he's pretty funny. Actor to what was that movie with Matthew McCullough? Matthew McCauley Matthew mcconaughey Khanna? Hey, where he was living at home, and Terry Bradshaw was his dad. Alive to launch. Yeah, I couldn't want to Sarah, Jessica Parker. I can't stand her. We're suppose. Yeah. Horseface. She doesn't get them my nerves. We're just being mean now. So anyhow, I think they overblown, CDs stuff, one of these days, I'm going to do a podcast about that. But I'm gonna probably make a lot of people upset because that is the flavor of the year. Whatever. Well, if you're not concerned about it. You don't care about the players. That's what they make it out to be. I guess that's makes sense. I guess, but I'm more into truth facts, not feeling not appealing supposed to be concerned about these people personal apps or something. I don't know. That's another thing with. I just not a big fan of getting all into personal. I don't care like I've said before if they carefully kick puppies, down the road that play good football team. This is right afterward talking about and Cal Winslow. That's different. I listened to that interview with low locus on the football girl. Podcasts are a lot of people talking about that. It was pretty good. Yeah. She's very personable low. Go to buffalo. Yeah. And some interesting tidbits I learned about her. She didn't start playing football until she turned forty. Yeah. Playing football. Yes. Playing football coaching football. Well, she got her first NFL coaching opportunity at fifty five one how old is she fifty five? So she does not look fifty five. No. Not at all. And the interviewer Astor like what's Regan footba? She's like I just like to hit people are really good. That's why we watch football because we linked to watch people get hit you. So her interview was really good. If you have a chance to listen to a little thing I didn't know she's a fan of the Steelers. What? Yeah, we play them. I know presumably grew up in Pennsylvania. Initially when she started watching football which she's been a football fan her whole life. She watched it there in the steel, curtain C would watch they would have the coal in wherever she lived that was in the market and the colts news from Baltimore. And so it was the Steelers then I was a fan of the students back into Lynch. Long steel curtain, Terry Bradshaw was drunk on the field. Like even the booth he played really. Winston words like Chuck it and pray wasn't he the one. What the evacuate? Only junk person can do right back. I'll go. I'll go off this helmet and you're gonna catch it. She's not the coaches during ta are working thirteen hour days, the book of your coaches. Yeah. Which is crazy. So they get there really early like six in the morning. The players come in around eight they start on the field at ten and then the players leave. And then the coaches are still there was big in the for the players, I think, told his coaches on what you if you're working, what is what is it? He says, if you're if you're working that many hours a day, you don't know what you're doing this game's not that hard. I mean that's his thing. He says, well, I don't know. They're, they're thirteen hours. Maybe maybe they're HUD from him. They don't want. That's not working, of course, would be a woman. There were questions about that, and low female podcast, the football girl. So I think she kind of focuses on that which whenever she was a journalist, I think Melissa Jacobs was the name. She's a sports journalist, I think she worked for ESPN and started a podcast, low doesn't wanna be the token woman. I mean she talked about yet, empowering other people, you know, I hope that I inspire their women if this is what they wanna do. But I don't wanna be the token woman. I don't wanna be here because I'm a woman, and she said up into the day, we're all trying to keep our jobs like jobs in the NFL are so fleeting. And you can lose it very quickly. So she's just trying to do it. She can to stay in her position or she is she'd liked to get ahead defensive line position maybe down the Rhone and maybe a defensive coordinator position. But again, she's fifty five so it's, you know, she's just starting her NFL career. Now, you know how long would it take her to get to that place? I don't know and she was realistic about it. They asked about the locker room talk around her, and she was like I don't want players to have two sons. Themselves around me because it really changes the envir- like I don't wanna be a hindrance to anything. So she said, you know, you hear you dish it back, whatever it's not really a big deal. I probably need to say to your f- bombs. Guys weren't that if there's going to be a female coach. I would imagine they want to want her to be in their cousin and talking cramped with the rest of being able to hang at sound. She sounded really down to earth and relatable as when she was playing semi professionally she played linebacker defensive end. But she got hurt in her fourth year and they actually in this league had paid a play Chrysler. Yeah. So they weren't actually she wanted make any money off of. Yeah. And she had kids at the time, she's working full-time. She had our kids. So there was kind of that balance that work life balance. But her kids are twenty two and twenty nine now, so none of that anymore. I don't think. No. She's got him out of the house, hopefully. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Ones in San Francisco, and I forget where the other one was due to Francisco. He's doing aids and pride work figures appear in San Francisco. That's what you do. I think that's what Francisco belt on. Although wasn't that movie? We watched last night was always be my baby on Netflix. It was. They were Asian Korean I and they were all different. They would say Cisco apparently there's a huge Asian population, same Pasco. Okay. That makes sense. Never been me. Neither. I California kind of scares me because it's one of those places where I think, if I ever go, I'm gonna wanna live there because of the weather. I mean it just sounds court tropical weather all the time. But man, you get so soft, which you have to do you have to live in California wants, and they live in New York City more. It's too hard new backup. Live in California gets off to the other way around go to New York. And because if you went to California from New York, it'd be a total jerk on the line people wouldn't want to hang out with you. Speaking of California, Oakland. Oh, goodness. Guess what? We're going to be watching for hard. Thanks. I. It's going to be such shit. Oh my God. Insanity Brown on the promotion like the picture. Hogging camber everywhere goes, they got so many, you got incognito is going to be there. He's trying to be a choirboy, of course in front of the camera Antonio Brown, I think Martin's back Elliott. And then Derek Carr. We don't know what the dramas with Gruden. Derek Carr surprise that he's kept their Corless long I guess there's still a chance. He could be cut joint. That is going to be a good good hard knocks. That's where my Glennon is. We'll give to the giraffe s j, j Nelson, is there to Donald Penn. They didn't pick him back up. Right. They didn't now. Oh, yeah. What he's retired. Now willingly. I'll tell you what he had a great lustrous career man. How do you think Oklahoma will do this year? They're going to crash and burn. I think Domus thing getting rid of Cleal MAC. And then getting rid of Amari Cooper was it was my blowing me. What were they thinking I gonna Amari Cooper, is by far the best route running in fell? I think and we all saw, what Camille Khalil Magna's could Lord? Why would would girton is he's mentally deficient. Greg Olsen is still there offense coordinator. How did that happen? Remember he was were hands offense coordinator with us. And then he's been at Oakland, I think, since then, and how many head coaches have they had in the meantime, they keep at least as we have been we've been running neck and neck with him. It shows the cycle of NFL how some teams we Oakland rose up with us at the same time we met at the Super Bowl, we boat. We've both fail at the same time we've been in the bottom of the barrel for the most part for the same amount of time. I think they didn't have a huge mistake getting Jon Gruden. Oh, yeah. It's gonna. Be an awesome awesome hard knocks. So that starts August sixth on HBO is right around the corner. Pontes Bertha CT. He's on their defense. Retired. Are you sure I'm almost positive? He retired. I mean what is gonna happen when vont Bertha CT in Riccione incognito he'd each other in practice? One day. If he just collecting like these big names. That's how I feel gruden's not a big name Gog groom likes to be the biggest name on the team. I don't know what he's doing to be honest with. He's got the guy from ESPN is the general manager, Mike may that guy's thinking he knows all kinds of stuff about football. So we're gonna find out. It's going to be interested as hell. He see something incognito and Bertha CT. I don't know how long before Mike. Mayock. E N Junker star going at it. No. Right. And how much power does. Mike may I actually have is he just a figurehead because grooten attain year four billion dollar deal. Or some crap was Oakland when he came to the buccaneers, he was basically, the general manager to you ended up running out our general manager so talk about ego. He's got double wide doors all throughout his house just to get his head going. In Beccles always talks about that with him too, because I think did he play under way before Gordon. Yes. Well, it should be a good season of hard knocks. Anyway, he's gonna be great. That's to me. That's when football season start is when hard knocks comes on. Well then all the preseason game start right around all just coalesce inches football football football to come out of hibernation, drink a lot of beer. Eat a lot of chips wings. I know vegan speaking of which Dermot Koi is going to wear number ninety three at the Panthers. I'm not surprised by that. I kind of was a little bit because it's a tackle. Kyle love had ninety three. He's been wearing number ninety three. So I was interested to see what was going to happen. Koi obviously paid him quite a bit of money for it. They don't just do that as like a respect thing. I don't. I mean he might have. But I would imagine there was some money, the pants as I was, like, when they're even came he was Leonard Marc, Maron, Margaret. Yeah. Paid him like forty grand or something like ten. Yeah. Boom it was fifty thousand fifty gray and he'd pay for a number. Okay. You said forty I said ten that equals fifty grand. Collectively? We were right? Yeah. Gooden twenty percent. Right. You were eighty this is this is a kind of logic to. I'm not wrong though. There was ten grand in their project car love, you know, he's second-string but he got fifty percents of the snaps last year, remember correctly. Like I said, they rotate these guys in all over the place. And I assume they're gonna keep doing that this year der McCoy is not going to be a starter. He's not going to be in front of quad short or Dante repo. It's so strange to me. Sue Kyle love who is listed as the fourth defensive tackle right now. He played a forty seven percents of the snaps defensive snaps last year. Compare that with Dante poem played fifty two percent of the snaps. Come on short played fifty seven percent of the snaps. These guys don't play. They're not three down tackles in the system. So we'll see. And it's funny because right now they have jerem McCoy listed in front of Cohen. Short jerem Koi is the starter. Cohen short is the backup. They're paying Kwan short twelve point five million base. Alary next year now Carolina Panthers doesn't having listed as the starter. These are other sites Quant shorts making thirteen million eighteen point five dead cap space cap. Hit seventeen million. Yeah. And you're gonna tell me they're going to have him second-string. I don't think so. And like I said Kyle love who took his jersey. He's fourth stringer and he's getting fifty percent of the snaps. So it's going to be interesting to see how that shakes out in North Carolina. Did you see that they got these statue up in Tampa for LeRoy Selmon? Yes. Yeah. Nice statue. They had a good unveiled ceremony with his family and stuff. Tom passenger be writer for is the beat writer. He's one guy. Oh, yeah. That's right. The data parcel, whenever he comes yet. So he he tweeted out in response to the statue being he still butthurt over the Gerald McCoy. He said that statue a smiling too much. Never sacked anyone in the fourth quarter or lead a team to the playoffs. How seriously dude? Wow. But that also got me to him. We talked about. I had an add onto my reasons why I was having to see Jeremy McCoy go and it was because of his fourth quarter performances really his second half performances, but its fourth-quarter performances were not ten great. So I decided, I was like, I'm gonna look up and see how bad the buccaneers word in the fourth quarter with Jeremy closer of the buccaneers top fifty blown leads seventeen of them happened since two thousand ten when McCoy joined the team. Well, yeah, seventeen the franchise is forty two years old seventeen out of the top fifty is thirty six percent and should have been like twenty one percent. If you just going to be average thirty that's a fifteen percent difference that was double. It's crazy. Seventeen of the top fifty blown leads happened during der. Mccoy's watch and all we ever hear. Is how bad the buccaneers were since their inception. The. That so yeah, when you're thinking, bad football you're thinking, you know the seventies eighties not saying that they weren't mad. But when it comes to blown leads the aunts have it, what, what do you call in two thousand tens and tens, the tens and tens twenty ten I can't keep up with all those newfangled technology. Found that. Interesting. Thomas passengers talking about, oh, he's never a statue. He's going to give a statue a hard time, because it never went to the playoffs or won a game in the fourth quarter. I don't even really understand the tweet all I could tell that he was head as keyboard crying, because Jerry McCoy's the paint that's almost half seventeen half. The fifty twenty twenty-five seventeen blown leads of the top fifty that's almost half the blown leads in franchise history. The top fifty. That's crazy. We blew allow leads could have been could use some stops there. Defensively been are out, right. Kind of has been God. It's gonna be glad to get rid of that mess. Washington game seeing we live in Washington territory. Can't stay in Redskins fans that Steelers fans close the good thing about Redskins fans is they only come out in their winning. So they don't come out a whole. Yeah. We see on like the first three weeks of the season and then they pretty much call the season watch. And then you don't hear from them because God, it was so bad when they had RG three like the messiah they thought they were going to the Super Bowl every year for the next fifty years now it's kind of fun watching that dream crumble. But boom. Career real quick. But remember when we played them, and we had them up, and they came back and they beat us and who was a quarterback at the time he come walking out locker and you like that. Mother. Oh, that's still Jeff. Yes. You like that. I don't think I watch TV for a week after I couldn't I couldn't bear to watch people. Gloat stuff. Yeah. That network just kept replaying that clip of him coming. I hate when they show like great plays on the NFL network or something. And a lot of them are against the buccaneers. All that really bothers me. I'm just like that bothers me Chris Kante that his last game for the buccaneers. He gets that stiff arm by the is going to be known for when he's going to be known for its, it sucks. Yeah. I liked him too good player. He was John Lynch but it was a good player. Speaking players I thought we could play a little game, so we're gonna do. We're gonna look at the roster who's on the roster and decide if the player is going to be safe if he's on the bible or guy. Sean, and I have a spreadsheet, I'm recording all of them. So I can tell you how wrong Ralph was. And you know what's funny? We're talking about who's going to be on the roster here. Gregg Allman had a article out in athletic today where he's guessing the fifty three man roster was like, really did he should call beforehand because we were going to do the same. So that was from him. I don't know that we're gonna make a game out of it. It's gonna be fun game offense. Okay. Let's start with the center position starting to middle the buccaneers have Ryan Jensen and Nate trae win. Listen as center who was made trailing. Nobody. Yeah. He's a rookie drafted free agent. Okay. So I think he's gone. I don't think he's got a chance. He might get on the practice Kwan we're gonna pick practice players. Now. I'm just saying. So my prediction is Nate trae win. He's not gonna make it. Ron Johnson Evans Smith or pretty much safe. Right. Okay. So what do you think about Nate Shelman gone? I can hear your clicking second and hence. Okay. So Ryan Jensen. He's definitely making the roster. Shake quick copy my answers. I think we're going to be pretty similar on all of these thank God. We've gotten Zach Bailey Alice Kappa Ruben Holcombe and Allie, mar pet alley. More than Alex cap is staying see I think he might be. Yeah. Okay. Sam I was going to say on the bubble but he's Yang. They kinda like him. We need some depth. A photo did pretty good last year when he sold them. These other guys on Jack Bailey, and raven hokum ruin Holcomb, where do we get him from play the buffalo on the practice squad. Oh, he used to play. He was with us last year. We waived him before the season started. Oh, yeah. He's gone. Yeah. Wave him once again. All right. What do you think about Kayla Benach Eastone? He thinks do I think he could be on the bubble, especially depending on how allowed for does colder man. I don't know what thing. About him but kosh darn it. I want him on the team. We nobody's ever said anything about him. I've never seen a picture of never nothing but with a name like that. You just gotta be able to team now. He's on the Bubby on them. What about Michael p we gotta have tackle depth? I think we'll keep Sam Evans Smith's and Earl Vern keeping both of them. I agree. Whether it's Donald Smith guy. Question. Definitely keeping dominance Smith. Definitely keep it. The mar Dodson does say Rubinho comes gonna get cut. No only leave us with one backup tackle Kayla. Better not. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Kayla behind Johnson, right? Yeah. We've got Riley Mayfield tackle and Brock ruble, gone. I think to this because I don't know anything about him. I mean, we'll keep maybe eight off into line and they said that they may bring some in that's true. All right. Let's got wide receiving corps because this is just outrageous with that ten thirteen we've thirteen receivers. Well, okay. I'll tell you who's gonna it. Mike devons Scotty Miller, really think Scouting's gonna chard prayer. Yes. How many we keep how many why receivers six seven seven seven's number? All right. Mike evans. Chris Coggan shocked Perriman. Scotty miller. We've all seen. Anthony Johnson those forward Deng confident in Beverley, I think is on the bubble. Yes. Just lots of probably on the bubble to, we've got the Xavier who Bosie Anthony Johnson market, lodge K, Jay Brandt Bryant. Mitchell core trail Simpson's Spencer Schnell in one of those guys could pop off and Vavra job that low hanging fruit there. Bubba Wilson Justin Watson. Anthony johnson. I don't know anything about those guys. So I'm to say gosh, I would put them all in a bubble. So don't really think about if you had a gun to my head, I would go with Chris guy when paramount Bubba Wilson Mike Gavin. Justin watching Scotty, Miller in the rest of cut. Yeah. But there's a couple of guys that are in there guys that they like I'm going to say that court trial Simpson. 'cause they talked a little bit about him things on the bubble. Okay. He can make it. I don't know about Scotty Miller. Where was he draft in third round draft a pretty late fourth or fifth, sixth round to relate? Yeah. So he's kind of a launch to make it. Yeah. Normally they haven't been put him in front of the cameras. Lot. Yes, I watched a little clip thing that the buccaneers did the other day where they had him in training camp. They were just focusing on him. He might be favourite to make it. My thought is that Evelyn's Godwin. Thurgood Bouchard Perriman, pyramids. Get Scotty Miller put on the bubble. It's really depend on preseason. I guess because you get these guys training camp. They busted out when it comes to actually play in the game. They just disappear. Remember Kenny pill hill. He blocked that out. And then I think all the other ones cordray Simpson, I think, has the chance to make an exhibitor who both just because of the connection topples. He came from the jets might be on the bubble. Have the chance to make just wants him Bobo. I think are on the bubble just in Watson. The team has dome kind of marketing a little bit. So do you remember him from last season? He played sparingly, right? We have a cage a Brent wide receiver never heard of him who've been around the league for a while. Oakland Seattle Indianapolis, but he hasn't played a whole lot. He's been signed and waived and practice squad than waved practice. Activated within the Annapolis in December two thousand seventeen than they waived in the next year put on reserve injury problems. It sounds like he's been bouncing around for three years. Okay. Let's look at our tight ends. That's a tough one. This is the first to easy right at Ajay and camera. I think they're staying now said they're gonna keep three most likely for as long as the fourth one can do special teams oil, right? So I, I don't know. We have Auclair Donnie earns burger Tanner Hudson. Jordan Lega, Jordan Leggett from from. Donny earth burger was with us last year on the practice squad. I think Claire, they like Claire for blocking. Yes. But to me, he's a liability in blocking just in general and he got penalized. So many times last season. You gotta have at least one Canadian team. So I would go Jay Howard. Kamer -brate join Leggett in L. Claire. Okay. I would go. Bray. OJ. Dornan legand. I, I don't think I'll clear is gonna make it put him all the ball. We're cut him. Yeah. Too gone too long. So you go keep three titans. Maybe. Yeah. Yes. Merita Donnie earns burgers, gone -tainer. Hudson gall. Yes. Enjoying lega. They might keep during leg and put him on the bubble no-go quarterbacks. Interesting one here. How many are we gonna keep? We've got four on the roster right now. James Winston blamed Gabbard ride Griffin, Nick, Gerald, I think they're going to keep James Blaine, and Nick, I think, Ryan, Griffin's gone think Ryan Griffin is going to he was a favorite of Dirk, and I think it's Nick FitzGerald is stained for his versatility because he's a lot like Tatum, hell, they've, and I'm Blaine gabbert, the likes having that veteran presence. Yes. So agree with James wisdom. Blaine gabbert, and Nick FitzGerald copy of insurance again I. Okay. So let's look at running backs. Peyton Barbara Ronald Jones, Sean Wilson, their ogan wa Bali, Bruce Anderson and Andre Ellington, Peyton barber. Ronald Jones are staying a figure. We're gonna keep four running backs. Well, yeah. This one's MU would do. Gosh. The rest of them were on the ball to me. Yeah. John Wilson, they're open Walli verse Anderson. And Andre, Ellington, you know, I'm thinking of saying under is going to make the team. But the guy had a lot of injury problems, and be might have him in here, just for training camp to help the guys out only one, I'm set on his paint, and Barbara, I don't know about wrote down. Okay. I'm putting him on the bottle. Wow. Yeah. Well, what pick was he second second round. Yeah. Yes. Second round thirty eighth overall. They might stick with him just because it's a second round pick. And it's only a second year. He had great college highlights and day Rulli talk. Walking up this Nikko confidence issues. Right. Which understand it was last year. They talked about it all the time out. He just didn't have confidence. Yeah. What, what does that even mean I don't know? I mean, how do you not have confidence? And how does that affect your football plan? But be says confidence is what makes the difference between winters lose. Yeah. So they put a land stock into an obviously. Around hallways. Remember that article ran about his Dan, Dan? And he said, the article said that they went to go meet and NFL player. They're Cowboys fans and Raja was young like, you know, less than ten and his dad took him and Roja was excited. But he was so nervous. He just hid behind his Dan, basically the whole time Shug guy. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen a press conference with you. Now I haven't either interesting. But I think that will keep Andre Ellington, for the veteran presence agree with you put him on the bubble though. P moldable pan Sean Wilson. And I think hasn't chance to make it I'm put him I'm gonna put him into the keep Bruce Anderson, I would say on the bubble and then DARA he's on the bubble Dory. You let me sit here and say they're all this time people. What you mean by now he was on our practice squad a lot last year so that death that for the offense and it does that we got the offense, don't set Senate in the book one buccaneer place. We figured it out your outcome. This is why we're reduced to seven weeks until training camp. We go to podcast coming out Friday. So you'll get more of this will do the defense, most likely, and I think I've got a surprise player the defense defensive, I think it's going to get cut. Yeah. Stay tuned for that. If you'd like to send us any comments about our picks you can reach us on Twitter at bucks underscore observer by Email at Molly Bay Buccaneers observer dot com or Ralph at buccaneers observer dot com. We're also on Facebook, you can search for I don't know how to lake I don't out facebooKcom something. Yeah. Just search for it. Search for book. And here's observer I share it on Twitter, sometimes so that helps and we're also on the World Wide Web, buccaneers observer dot com until next time get lax.

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[067] Latest Bucs news of the week

Buccaneers Observer

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[067] Latest Bucs news of the week

"Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcasts. Ralph Phillips Malley bay today is may nineteenth two thousand nineteen one hundred eight days to kick off. If you on Veterans Day, Ralph a little bit the summer call stock. Yeah. I don't remember the last time I had one, what do you got for news? Not a whole lot, Steve mad dog Dumi because passed away longtime radio announcer in the Tampa Bay area. It was really cool on Twitter reading all the tributes to him the media personalities that we now that had connections to him relationships. Yeah. Pretty much everybody down. There has at one time or another worked with Steve dooming big passing here. A big voice in Tampa Bay sports area for about thirty years. Good stories from pew report, and Rick Strahl all those guys. Yeah. It was Peter report had that fab five and that was one of their fabs. What does that? Yeah. Fab FM. No. I mean, either if we took five seconds, look into we could figure it out. Yeah. I'm going to say this and our last podcast. Mike Evans had a celebrity bowling event, Saturday. But since we didn't have it in the last podcast, I can tell you as it happens. Tell the grand station, entertainment, and college station, Texas and it really hear anything about it, how it went we talked about it in one podcast. He had a few ex auguries celebrities show up last year, unless you're had this year. We didn't get a whole lot of news from OTA's on Wednesday and Thursday. Because apparently the media was not allowed in those days, we got a little bit of the takeaways from carbon by tally on the buccaneers dot com website. She had a couple of articles nothing really stood out that much but we did have some transactions. We signed wide receiver Bryant Mitchell, who was from the CFL son with the cardinal, but didn't they waived him last week, he played with the CFL's at Menton eskimos and spent three years in Canada. So his career he's got ninety seven passes for one thousand four hundred eighteen yards in six touchdowns in nine. Nineteen games. So we had to waive undrafted rookie long snapper, Dan. God solds make room for him. So we've got one long snapper that Zach trainer still couldn't turn go off season. All right. We can even bring Dan back get rid of that. Who knows? That's a cutter move, right? There who was it was lovely Smith. At did that when we had, like hundred twelve transactions in the. Yeah. Cutting people in his bag and cutting people did that to all the time. He was the guy a receiver that they liked that they kept doing that, too. He would be on the practice squad. Martina Freddie March. Yeah. They I swear the head of cut him six times. The you're exactly right. He was cut six times by the buccaneers from two thousand sixteen two thousand eighteen Lord. He's got twenty six transactions on his bio between the Atlanta Falcons. Philadelphia Eagles in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's hilarious. He must show just just enough flashes to get attention but then isn't productive or doesn't fit in well, or yeah, this is a heck of a thing, I mean, heck of a list, we signed him, and then waived him than activated from the practice squad, and waived him. Then cutting. To the practice squad and activated. Activating from the practice squad, then re-signed teams in cutting than added him to the practice slot. Then activated him from the practice squad didn't wave deemed didn't cut him. Then added him to the practice gone than activated from the practice squad than sign the finally cut him October. Sixteenth two thousand eighteen why Friday he played in four games? Well in two thousand eighteen actually he's played in twenty six games throughout his four year career so far started none of them in two thousand sixteen. He's played in thirteen games source salad. Good backup. Maybe practice Clive guy. He had one. Touchdown. Okay. Receiving touchdown. Hellman Damase Winston had pretty good chemistry. If I remember correctly seems thing James has good chemistry with everyone. But the shell dishonest Jackson he heard about Patrick Peterson. Pop for PD's. That was really strange surprise me doesn't seem like the kind of guy that. But then, again, PD's include everything man down. Buchanan tweeted that the truth will come out. Yeah. And that you get in trouble for too much coffee sometimes. And so it really we don't know anything about what's going on yet. Then whenever will these CBA the way that said oh, now the players can say whatever they want. That's why you hear all these guys saying all when it gets the spended for these, they say, oh, I was on Atarot. Yeah. Because that's like an acceptable joke, but they could say anything. Well, that's what have Josh Freeman quite a few guys on our team saying they were doing Adderall. But yeah. He came out and said a head of time before I was he's suspended before he got into the drug program. He came out and said she on. Oh oh, yeah. There was this ROY up about his. Yeah. They were blaming Szanto for Aliki in the information, and then he said, I was just Adderall, but we know that's not true. We assume it's not true. But yeah. All the guys did. They could say whatever they want with the, the new CBA. I guess hip laws to. Yeah. The NFL's not allowed to say what they got popped for with the players can say whatever they want about what they got popped for Patrick Peterson isn't denying once however, he already said he's sorry came out. Let's an apology. He apparently like the week before he got to spend the knew he was going to be suspended. So he went to the front office, Arizona and tried to get them to restructure his contract. So he would have money the season. Oh, yeah. He he lost. I think it was like three million. Oh, he's gonna lose during the suspension. And I guess he's cast trapped don't know but and they refuse and he kinda got a little bit upset about that L, maybe ask weight, and he took his on the air cardinals office, Instagram and everything that's unfortunate. I wonder what he was using. He's gonna have to get a job at McDonalds during the suspension phase bills. I'm sure. He could ban consultant somewhere. He could get a broadcasting job. I don't think they drug test. Those idiots. Terry bradshaw. He's like unconscious pretty much every broadcast. We'll have next week of OTA's Tuesday Wednesday Thursday. I think it's the same drill media has access on his Dante does. Yes, we didn't know this until otas, star Wednesday and we were like how come we're not hearing anything from OTA's by the media. And then we found out that they weren't allowed Wednesday and Thursday. But Carman for the tally has been doing some write ups on that. I enjoy those. Yes. And she was on podcast Friday. I want to say it was locked on bucks. Can't remember those pretty good. She has a good insight. She saying it's drilling amazing at the energy and practice. Now do you remember her last year? Now I think she's new bride. So I'm thinking she might have been there last year. Do not remember any reporting from her from training camp last year. Yeah. So I'm like, what do you have to? To compare that to this. The thing about training camp every year here, all this great stuff in the season starts. And I think she's a bears fan. So I don't know if she worked for the Chicago Bears. But I think that she's from that area though she's a Blackhawks fan hockey. So, yeah, yes. She I think she worked in that area. Okay. She seems to really enjoy the buccaneers. Yes. She says there's a lot of energy and it's really hard to keep track of what's going on on the field. She says she about gets whiplash because she has to watch both ends of the field because they have to practices going on. Yeah. You know an opposite ends of the field. So she's like something happened over here. I'll look at it and then I'll hear something over there, and I'll turn my head real quick and just back and forth says it's lot of a lot of action going on a lot of energy. Everybody seems to be excited she needs to have an intern so she can cover one and the intern can cover that. Tolerant happen. Everybody has to it has to be double everybody with this terriers aging. Yeah. I mention it is kinda hard to cover it. I don't think Vernon Hargreaves back Wednesday, Thursday ruler. I don't think fattening Joe buck fan seven all the pictures Vernon's not on the field now Gregg Allman came out. So everyone made a big deal about it on Tuesday, including us about Vernon not practicing. And then it came out the next day. Greg Allman tweeted that it was injury related. And that's why burn wasn't practicing. But apparently, be a down. He should be practicing so V three he's got a really be careful. I mean he's on the bubble this make no doubts about it. The we've got a bunch of defensive backs that we drafted, he's got a lot of competition back there. And he's really shown nothing and he's been injured every year. And even when he's been on the field he's kind of gotten torch. But then again, everybody did and like Smith defense, but it's champ. He has not been worthy of his first round draft pick status so far. We picked up his fifth year option. But that doesn't mean anything that just means he can't sign anywhere else unless we cut him so we can sell cut and not lose any money, right? Yeah. It's not guaranteed until March next year whenever so he's, he's really don't thin ice. And I think the as trying to bring about lifting Bob whatever getting playing better. And if he comes to practice first day talking about who I've got a slight injury coach. I don't think I completed they and that's that'd be I said, you got he's got again his mind right for practice. So maybe it was just a small thing and be as old school. New school of us it out for a hamstring for. Yeah, he expects you to play through injury. Any eve that's really tough quarterback sent. He's coached any Rothlisberger on Louis. Burger look. Nia luck with only a what he was injured for two years. But I don't think we I have him, then, of course, Paul were. Yeah. Which he was old. So. The injuries aren't really surprised. But the Peter report had a really good found five this week where they did talk about Steve day Meg, but they also talked about the McCoy yourself and a Scott Reynolds, actually wrote a really good fab five about exactly what I said last week that the Molly was like third listening listening said, exactly what she said. But, you know, I can see where they came into savings conclusion that I'd end because it seemed obvious to me after the Vernon harbouring stuff and then it comes out. Oh, this is just how coaches, which why that didn't come out and cedar her. Why didn't the media bring that up before this isn't uncommon for him to do? We brought it up. We run it up a line in the media, bringing up before this, because they're making jerem Quayle like he's victim that be as. And so mean to him as it's unnecessary. And then come to find out be using this kind of stuff to motivate guys. So why did know draw that connection before? The book don't know why I read the book and I didn't really draw the connection till the wearning Hungary stuff, and then they started tweeting all these articles out. He does that to everybody he did it to clay Campbell, but that Scott Reynolds found five he talked about all the Buchan nears players who had been subjected to something similar. So Mike Tomlin came in back in two thousand one when he was some kind of assistant with the buccaneers, and he gave John Lynch a list of all the ways that he can improve his position. And it pissed John Lynch off. But then thirty and thirty one John Lynch had to vary accomplished seasons. I think it was not Mike Tomlin. He also told rendezvous Barbara, hey, buddy. I'm looking to get ready. You like you're on the chopping block. If you don't step it up Iran day was run. Then got man had three hundred and four interceptions. Exactly. So it worked and then, of course famously Jon Gruden comes in tells the defense, great defenses score touchdowns for nine touchdowns. And they did it to its downs. So there's a lot to be said for pissing player off to motivate them did work in McCoy's case. Apparently, we I mean, I'm still opinion then he's gone. He's out of here. But and if you know he could come and play, and be extra motivated, but Peter report and Rick Strahl. They both said that the team hasn't asked him to take a pay cut, even though they don't wanna pay them the thirteen million. They haven't asked him to take less money air restructure. We've talked about on the podcast McCoy is never ever ever ever ever had a coach treating with anything other than difference in this is the first time that he's ever had a coach. Call him out and basically say, hey, I want you to play better. I want you to you're not as good as everybody says you are, basically, we want you to earn your thirteen million, and as Scott Reynolds pointed out in his fab five go it doesn't take criticism too. Well. He had because at blocked Peter report on Twitter or Instagram or something like that couple years ago, and I guess he's never reinstated. You're no longer my good graces. I guess we can't get by without talking about. You can't do it is our biggest storyline besides J people. I think is bigger than the J P P thing currently this. Yeah. If we should find out about your McCoy here soon because minicamp starts, but two weeks and we still haven't signed Devon way, we don't have money of Backley. So we can't really make a move until we figure that out. There are other players that we could cut. But what could six players when you can cut on exactly? So it's to be interesting. But when it happens imagine, it's going to be weeks of speculation and people being upset or people being happy and it's a mixed emotions Cleveland one same. But their GM hasn't made any move to ask the boxer reach out. That's the thing. You know, the Daba could sue still out there. Yeah. He's apparently not getting any. Offers any offers it's close to what he wants because he's going to be wanting the same amount about thirteen fourteen million dollars in you know Gerald McCoy if there was a team that really wanted him. They could trade for him for very little. I mean, the fifth round draft. Pick may be or even just a player swap in Cleveland, the Duke Johnson something then you get it you could get him for a relatively low price. He just had to carry his contract number to cap. It thirteen million quite a few teams out there have the room for it. They could do it, but they're not doing it. And everybody's saying, well, because they know we're going to cut him if they can't, you know why trade for anything when you can get him in free agency when he gets cut new, you kind made the same argument about this, Sean Jackson instill. Somebody gave up a third round pick for him bride. If you want somebody, you don't take a chance of because when we cut him all of a sudden you're in competition with thirty one other teams to get him. You know if you want him you. Go out and you do it takes to get him to me. It just seems like there's not that big market because like I said, sue sitting out there, and I think he'll get a New England Josh my predict sent everyone thought about that. They like doing that. And he would take less money to go playing there. He thinks question everyone does. Yeah, go there and get the Super Bowl ring. Exactly. Wouldn't it? No same. He got bebop New England. That's right. Last season can't beat them. Join. All right. Everyone else does and sue being out there lowers McCoy's value. I think, but if we were in a release McCoy, then, then two are competing with each other for agency makes sense. So, like I said, it's just seems to me like the market's not that hot for either one of them adult adult think they're going to get the money they're looking for McCoy ensue. It doesn't appear like him because there are teams like the call some brands that have the money to sign them. They're just not doing it. Now, wonder McCoy doesn't want to take less money because there's teams out there that can that have the money now. I mean, he's not gonna make thirteen million no matter what happens unless it gets traded possibly. But i'm. I don't see if suze out there and you could potentially get him for less money because there's not a high demand. Why would you pay him jerem thirteen million tricky situation? We'll see how it all shakes out. That wouldn't that be something? Neither one of them were signed this year. They both sat out that'd be crazy. One, surprise me. Really? Well, I just think that they're they want too much money. And there's no market for it, if there were market for it sou- would have been gone already. They're not in high demand. No, clearly, it's may teens are certain their training in their TA's. And he hasn't gone to a team just to defensive tackle positions right now is not in high demand. Well there were a dearth of defensive lineman in the draft, which drew mainly down the reason for it. And it does seem that teams are going, and this makes sense because of the that teams are going more towards younger guys because they're cheaper. But then there's. Problem. Like I said earlier, it seems like younger guys get hurt quite a bit in their first and second years, coin. Yeah, but he was the old CBS or for the new CBA. So I don't know. It's just it's all strange. My brain's not working right now. I'm just trying to come up with stuff to say good expires defensive in the east play for Tampa Bay Buccaneers from two thousand and two to two thousand seven has been arrested for stalking. Sounds like another case, kind of like with the ROY Miller thing it's just a expound divorce Shan. Well, he got divorced from his wife and you know, she got protective order out against those good stuff, and she's been keeping from his daughter. And he wasn't allowed to be near his daughter, some mess. Like dad in any went to a game where she was at. And then the woman called the cops, and he was never charged with domestic violence, or anything that San. Yeah. It says that the stock and petition says that he can't be within five hundred feet of his daughter, including at her school, or any of her sporting events. But he was green and joint custody in the divorce. Yeah, I just sent you know divorce is suck, especially when you have kids and the ad and sounds like he was trying to. Be involved in her life or something win went to the sporting event. She was at addle now. Poor Greg looks old. That's what happens. I don't here. He's only forty four O's actually his daughter, that took out the stocking took out a protective order against him hours before he came to her game at the concord high school. Oh, she wrote in her stocking petition that spires, who's remarried lives in Texas showed up Wednesday, memorial field for her sporting event, even though she has not seen or talked to him in years. She said it was frightening to see him invade my personal atmosphere, and I'm terrified for the next week as they have hinted out that they will be here for a while, the girl wrote referring to spires and his wife, of course, spire said he was totally innocent. And he's pretty shocked that he was put in jail. He said that he was served a protective order. He got it but he did not notice the provision prohibiting him from being on school property. He's never faced criminal charges for domestic violence now with restraining orders protective orders now that they those things out like candy you had to have any evidence whatsoever. You just go in and you say, hey, I don't want this guy around me in a jolt of societal. From women on it's hard to get. Well, I know. I mean, why would why would a judge have any reason to not do it because if he if you don't sign a protective order in and the guy goes and kills the girl then Alex banned on the judge. So yet, they have no incentive whatsoever to not do it. Because if you, you signed a protective order, then the husband can challenge, you know. And that's kind of the way the courts are they the better safe than sorry type things I've never known anybody. That's not been able to get one. Just walk in the magistrate's office, and say, I won't want and they basically give you on would. I mean, all you have to do just say, whatever. Yeah. Which scared fear for your life. Whatever if you say you fear for your life, we're gonna give you protective order, anti stalking charge, or something out of I've never had any get one so lucky you ended up my game. Now, the Boston Globe reported in two thousand sixteen at the spires was ordered to stay away from his ex wife after he sent her threatening text messages during a dispute over finances, and visitation of their teenage daughter. He had said, no stopping until justices serve. You've been stealing from me for a long time. This will not get better for you only worse. If you're thinking about leaving you better go now. Oncoming ex-commissioner exclamation exclamation? I can't have them why they weren't gonna protect Warner this step just get so ugly, there really does like I said, especially, when kids are involved brings out the worst in people in the stock at petition his daughter wrote that spires took photos and videos over and yell at her name while she was trying to compete in sporting event, and gave her a present with a necklace a note asking him asking her to contact him over the phone, she said she was shocked. And now she's afraid to go to school. A hearing on the stock in petition is scheduled for Tuesday now parenting. He's still in jail. They're saying that he has no ties to New Hampshire could be a flight risk. And he's a danger to his ex wife and daughter. What a mess. I tell you. He's on permanent. Disability from injuries. He suffered during his career in NFL. Maybe he's got C T E thought they all. Who was aware reading about Danielle Tehran, Shimano tail nauseating. If you don't remember he was a defensive end for the buccaneers back during the grapes, Yano, period. And he died, drug overdose bright in two thousand seventeen of the combination of painkillers and alcohol. And of course, they blamed it on CD eventually, right? Yeah. His family, I think is suing for permanent disabilities and they actually won their appeal which they're turning that has really rare for that to happen till they're going to get like five grand a month or something forever. So mess. I dunno so as money. Yeah. Basically that's pretty depressing. I now let's end it on that. Depended on a depressing note, guys gave it thrown into that is tonight. So that's depressing. Everybody's going to die. I think so my prediction this podcast is gonna come out after the finale, but my prediction is that areas is going to turn to winter fell in burn. All of the Starks. I couldn't even begin to predict anything that's going to happen. It's one thing I've always loved about this show except for season. Seven Stephen seven those totally predictable. But I, I can't ever predict anything that's going to happen with this. I have wrecked my brains, and I can't come up with how this is going to end and actually the first half of the season we hated because it was the dialogue was terrible. It was predictable the night king was just punk apparently of the. What like five seasons where he's coming, and then they a little girl killed him. They built it up in the army defining the strategy, everything was just horrible. I thought in one of the main characters got killed which of course was miraculous. So anyhow, this is not a game with their own podcast. So we're not going to continue with that. Could you imagine all the people that have game with their own podcasts Natal? Yeah, a lot. It's, it's this is it and yeah, it's like the podcast has started because of the Muller report. I guess they're still nursery outstart through there. But the game of thrones they're having a prequel that's going to be starting sometime probably next year. So I guess all these people that have game with their own podcast in video channels, and stuff. We're gonna just transfer over to that. Probably yeah. Well, we're going to read the bucks after the show's over, we're yes, there's still a book behind me on a main called ov-. I read pages. You've had all weekend. We've read two pages. Okay. I guess that's going to wrap it up for us tonight. I feel like a podcast gives a share out does hit the share button and whatever app. You're using throw a link on Twitter, Facebook it wherever, you know booking your fans reside, if you want to get in touch with me can reach me at Molly Bay, Buccaneers observer dot com. San Ralph your favorite camp fax at Ralph at buggy. 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Tom Brady, Buccaneer: Inside the QB's New Routine

ESPN Daily

26:14 min | 1 year ago

Tom Brady, Buccaneer: Inside the QB's New Routine

"Is this a bigger challenge even than you anticipated with a pandemic with all is going on what you've packed overcome. Every football seasons a big challenge in one way or another and You know changing teams after a long period of time it's been different having the opportunity over this time to you know move. Then to you know, for example study, my playbook really haven't had to do that in. Nineteen years so You know you forget man that's really tough. It's never easy to start a new job even when you're Tom Brady. The nineteen year veteran of the New England patriots has a whole new system to learn Tampa Bay. Today and up-close, well, socially distanced look at how Brady is adapting. Plus learn what it's like to memorize a new team playbook from an NFL quarterback. Who's done it sixteen times Josh mccown. I'm Pablo Tori. It's Monday. August tenth. This. IS ESPN daily. Hey, Jenna, thanks so much for joining me in the middle of a move that is a lot to process at the same time. Absolutely I appreciate you having Thankfully, we are not doing this on video though because there are boxes behind me, all wall ornamentation has been removed. So they're they're looking quite bare and I am swimming in a bunch of. ESPN football reporter Jen Elaine is covered the Tampa Bay buccaneers for more than a decade and she's not leaving town just moving down the street. Another person who had to make a move fairly recently. Tom, Brady is kind of like the new transferring high schools in his senior year I. Guess like doesn't quite know where everything is maybe doesn't know who to go to for what so my first question is, just how has Tom Brady been getting situated in your city It's been quite interesting. He has in my opinion he's doing all the things right with the exception of. Getting kicked out of a public park and accidentally walking into the wrong hole. He didn't know I get it the stay at home order. If because it does allow for outdoor recreation. So it just so happened that the city of Tampa parks were closed so I'm not GonNa Fault them for that. Brady, his backyard is water. Posts oftentimes like a nightly sunset photo when I kind of feel like me and that was my thing for a while. In his news better than mine. So, yeah, he beats me at that but he's adjusting to Tampa pretty well, he's still trying to figure out where things are. In fact, he's still trying to figure out where things are in his own facility because. He's hasn't even been there two weeks now like last week was the first week in the facility. He still doesn't know where they're meeting roof is he still doesn't know where the quarterback room is and I'm not GonNa lie I don't either because of the way they've just completely moved everything around in that facility because of covid one, thousand, nine, hundred, and social distancing. I wouldn't recognize what the inside of it looks like either. We heard Brady do something that I don't think anyone has heard him do which is bemoaned the challenge of learning a playbook and he did this last week Jenna and you had a story about this on ESPN DOT com. So tell me what specifically has been so difficult for Brady to grasp about this playbook and why? It's really the terminology like every offense you know it's a copycat league right and so there are bits and pieces of of every offense and these coaches he's play callers will get inspiration from other coaches, but the terminology is the confusing part. So it's like learning an entirely new language. So how different has all been compared to what you would have seen from a regular season? All right. Now, we're essentially seeing OTA's Steph. Even though reported to training camp and everything the the workouts that we're seeing now they're not doing any eleven on eleven's or really seven on seven. Kinda throwing the ball around right and you guys catching passes against air and making sure everybody's in good physical shape and the guys that weren't able to spend the time during the pandemic down here. They're still kind of adjusting to the elements and adjusting to the weather which Tom Brady actually he instagram opposed about Tamas. Weather yesterday because it was ninety five degrees and unlike, Yep, that is August in Tampa for you. So Jenna there are some really high expectations for this team. There's even super bowl contender talk being heard around your parts so Let's talk about the team Brady stepping into and I'd like you to tell me first about the buccaneers a quarterback after this whole carousel of guys at the position that preceded the arrival of Tom Brady. Well first, and foremost, the bucks have still never drafted quarterback where they have signed him to a second contract. There was some hope that Jameis Winston might be the guy but obviously, he wasn't they parted ways with them. He's now with the New Orleans Saints. But since I have covered this tea, which I started covering the team in two, thousand, seven and. Now we're going on twenty twenty I. Mean I've covered everybody from Jeff Garcia. We're actually I interned in two thousand six if you want to consider that. But I mean think Garcia before that they've had you know they had Brian Greasy. They've had bread Johnson. They've had Chris Simms Byron left which their offensive coordinator once played for them Josh, Johnson who has just had an unbelievable careers on the Josh mccown route as far as being able to literally like just. Play for what seems like every team in the NFL like it's it's it blows my mind. How many how many stops that guys had in his career Josh Freeman they had high hopes for him. That's it didn't work out Josh mccown himself they had him. So they've had a lot of quarterbacks that. Have never had stability at that position in, of course. They're not going to have a lot of long term stability at the position with Brady but they've certainly never had a guy like Brady. then. You look at the weapons that he's going to be getting. Mike Evans and Chris Godwin to eleven hundred yard receivers to pro bowl wide receivers, and neither of them finished the season either because of injury. So those eleven hundred yards came from not even playing sixteen games each. Team they don't have a lot of postseason experience actually few guys have played in the postseason at all you know they're young they're talented and I think that they have the right mentality they just it's really going to boil down to how do they handle being in the spotlight? How do they handle playing under the microscope? So the offense is stacked and has so much going on but the defense is far more unknown. I think the casual NFL fan. So what do you find promising on the other side of the ball? A lot of things. Shaq Barrett the season that he had this past year nineteen and a half sacks and it's funny I was talking to Chandler Jones at the pro bowl and he's like man every single week I was checking on that guy and he just couldn't beat them and the thing is as Barrett he signed a one year really a very low low deal. Last year is kind of took a chance and I mean. This is the guy that was playing in the fourth preseason game and he goes from that like he's fighting for a job he's fighting for roster spot. He goes from that to nineteen and a half Saxon a year but once J. p. p. came back because of course, he had the the neck fracture last year and you got to see both of those guys out there on the field together you really started to see that pressure build move-on. David is a guy that he's one of the best players in the NFL that nobody knows about because he's a quiet guy he goes about his business. But if you ask anybody in that locker room, he is the heart and soul of this team it's a young secondary but they understand that. They were the Achilles heel of this team last year you know they understood they weren't they weren't cutting it last year and they vowed to improve and you started to see that improvement and I expect that to carry over this year. And what about coach? Bruce? Arians how's that relationship? With Tom Brady? Well areas will tell you that even though Brady is Tom Brady, he says I still cuss him out like anybody else I don't know if that has. Yet though I didn't get that follow up question in I need to I. Need to hit up coach to find out if that's actually happened, he'll use a lot of curse words and like the M. F. Word I mean he finds a way it's it's a term of endearment who also use it if he's mad at she, you know I think the thing about Aryans is you know he's always been he's always been about having these human relationships with his players and I've talked to so many people that have played with Brady Brady's the type of guy where it's like you know he'll make it a point to you're not just get to know you he'll get to know your. Family, he'll get to know your kids. He'll know your kid's name. It's important to both of them as proficient as both of them are when it comes to XS and os both of them are really really about people areas. One of those coaches even though he's an older coach, he's sixty seven years old. He's still has a very open mind and he's still he's not someone that's just set in his ways. When it comes to the offense, he is certainly willing to adapt some of the way he's doing things same thing with Byron left which WHO's GonNa. Be Calling plays she gives so much freedom to the quarterback in this scheme and that's something Brady Oh. Really like and appreciate to. I mean Jonah you've painted a pretty fascinating contrast there between Bruce Arians and bill ballot check ballot check seems to me like the withholding dad who doesn't provide the emotion in love and flexibility, but you just described Bruce Arians as somebody who not only is emotionally intelligent but somebody who has literal yards full of toys for Tom Brady to play with and all the flexibility in the world. In this offense, it seems like Tom Brady is walking into a situation where even if he doesn't quite know where things are going to enjoy exploring how to get to everything. But Arians will tell you don't call me a father figure I'm the cool uncle you liked to have a drink with he will tell you. About it before he's like a father figure on the cool uncle, you like to have a drink with. Jenna I appreciate you for being authentically yourself. Thank you for joining us today. Absolutely thank you I. Appreciate the time. Up Next on ESPN daily from a longtime books reporter and her tips for Brady to veteran NFL quarterback Josh mccown who not only learned Tampa Bay's playbook, but also fifteen others in the course of his career. Ever wonder just how far an extra mile really goes drive Mercedes Benz van and find out start with a network of over two hundred fifty authorized dealerships backed by salesforce that's ready to help you with everything from customization service to financing options on vans like the durable. Mercedes. Benz sprinter or the versatile mattress each tailored to your lifestyle with options like blind spot assist and NBA Voice Command Technology for spoken directions, weather forecasts, and more so whether you're enjoying life on the trail or working hard on the job see how far on Xtra mile can go by taking the first. 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Josh mccown is played eighteen seasons as an NFL quarterback and yes, video evidence does show he can also dunk. So I feel like you should be putting that on your resume for whatever the hell it is that you plan to be doing for the rest of your life. Maybe. So I'M GONNA. Tell you could tyrod Taylor is a pretty good ducker Josh we're now producing as of right now we're producing an NFL quarterback current and former dunk contest I. Don't know why this hasn't happened yet. We need to make it happen. I hope missing on window. I assure you that mccown has not missed his window I mean we're talking about a guy who came out of retirement to play for the eagles last year like an action movie hero who gets lured back for one more big job. So when Tom Brady who of course spent nineteen years with just one team was quoted in Genesis story saying he was having a little trouble learning a new playbook. Now, these with the bucks mccown who for many teams including the Bay buccaneers had some hard one gloating to. Finally. He tweeted something I might do better than Tom. So I started by asking mccown what he thought when he heard about Tom Struggle with the new playbook. Oh Poor Tom. I know the feeling I've lived at you know and and technically now I've I've had the same system a few times. It doesn't necessarily mean that every exact play in terminology is going to be the same. It just means that there's probably the most overlap of any. Had Sixteen or seventeen offensive coordinator's the last eighteen years. So every year in April, it's like picking up a Rosetta stone starting a new language in going. Okay I'M GONNA learn this. He's right on about how much energy it takes because he's been able to spin his springs like getting better at football and not thinking about the terminology and. When you spend time You know just thinking about the terminology and you're walking to the Line of Scrimmage and Ota's going. Okay. What are we? What's the name of this plane? What's this guy got and all that stuff I think that's best apart that. Sets, guys apart, and so right now he's probably that's why probably he's done you know the whole summer is just learning these new terms and the thing you can't do is try to do association because you'll get. Okay. This is that play that's like the play that I had. So, there's a lot of there's a lot of neuro pathways that need to be formed to memorize these systems that you need to have time doing. Well He's been in a twenty years. That's that's trying to forget a lot of stuff. So I I I'm sure it's extending his his energy. Quite a bit. So. You mentioned that playbook Rosetta Stones. How many Rosetta? Stones did you have to learn over the course of your NFL career eighteen years a pro ball sixteen, sixteen play books and? And like I said I think it changed every year for the first four years. Fifth year by years five and in I came back around probably your ten I had the same. I was in Detroit with Mike Martz got him again Chicago and why maybe twenty ten. So that was the first time I had gotten the same coordinator twice you know in gotten in the in the same offense and even then he tweaked his thing so much for the five year. So I've got a couple of big plastic bands full of play books and it's fascinating to see. You know what the crazy thing is. Pablo it's all the same freaking place like. Tapes. Like nobody's got anything cool or different or new. My marts greatest show on turf was was definitely an innovator and he did things his stuff is the most different but. It's really more how coach everybody to everybody does the same things and it's just how they approach it. You know it's funny to flip through them because you know in my son's now get into football they're in high school and they'll look like that I'm like, Yeah Dude. It's like imagine walking a lot of scrimp is you know like seeing that plan your head, but not remember are sending the huddle and seeing the plan your head. But like White, which one am I supposed to call and it's happened to me I I can remember. I want to say the jets or maybe a Cleveland. I call it a play dues looked at me like crazy I was oh my bet like wrong wrong system. Like you almost like saying it a watching, there is a gathering. I. Think you're like, is this the right system? So, in terms of these plastic bins, if you were to give us a sense of just how many pages in all if you had to estimate Oh. How many pages is sixteen different playbook over the course your eighteen year career yeah. I mean I have I have on my desk right now foot and it's two two, hundred pages at least three hundred pages. So yeah two hundred, three, hundred pages times you know sixteen or whatever she is. Yeah, that's a lot. There's plays I remember from my rookie year know and there's and there's a every system that I've been in the kind of the staple plays are the ones that that made that system popular you hold onto and I can call them and I can remember him. So it's kind of funny how that goes. You wake up and Swick when men like like you know what plane on calling you calm down you're you're still laying in bed nobody's asking you know what I mean so for sure Hold on hold on now that you volunteered that you do remember vividly at least some aspects of these playbook. So we gotta do a little play call carrion. Can you give me something from your rookie year and can you give me something from Mike Martinez playbook and can you give me something? Off your choice and other wildcard. Just WanNa give the listener a sense of just what these languages sound life. One, play from my rookie year. was. Twins right. Orbit Scott No. The twins right orbit key, right? Zero, twenty, four, F eight, and and in those digits are all routes and in ways that guy's run. But I've also, you know I've been in another system where that same play would be trips, right To jet. Black beard or something to that effect. There's some similarity in all sudden. There's people that call plays by numbers digits, and then there's people that call plays by words and and so you have this whole conversation. But that would that'd be one for my rookie year the one that kind of made Mike Martz famous was the what we call in the digits system was the F. Post row and and that one would have been a flank right? F Boone. SCAT? Right. Zero Ninety five Poe swing so that would have been that would have been a fun. Let's see my first touchdown. candlestick part was Jack Right fire press right. Zero Seventy eight F flat, and I'll do it's a James Hodges on f lap that same play Jack Rice. Fire Pass right zero seventy eight F flat is also known as. Strong right. SPIDER TO WHY BANANA Oh I've heard of that one. I was GONNA say we've all heard one Josh I was GonNa say you could have said cuttlefish four left quintuplets sixty nine pie. I don't know any of these things but spider to why Banana I actually remember from the whole rooted. Areas exactly. Exactly. So in all chance that you play with somebody that's kind of bouts through systems like yourself you'll have these special moments like we're time stops and you you say wrong and he looks at you and he's like I know what you're talking about and. He's been an assistant to and you're like, Oh cool man. Like about them up on a Whiteboard, they'd be all the same play that you would know the difference. But this is how you call it in this. This is how you call it in this system. So it's kind of funny. So number one, I, feel like you have no problem remembering very high security Internet passwords that feels like the most translatable skills. With the second of all of speaking of translation, is there a career then as a playbook translator could someone higher utilize translate Josh mcdaniels Bruce, Arians. Quite. Possibly I mean you know. It's a pretty it would probably be a pretty hot hourly, right but. But I'm sure we for something out. Yes and at the worst case, you know I, guess, you could Tom Brady's zoom playbook studying tutor. Exactly. I mean that would work. That would work for me. Safety and. Comfort amount home be able to take. Him through his playbook. I'm pretty sure that when he hits the ground running whenever these Games do start. He's going to show that he's got this playbook thing nailed and just like everything else that he's done his he's gotTa. have it nailed and and. And you know he's going to be standing at volatile to Mike and and rob and those guys, and they're gonNA be killing. Josh thank you so much for joining me. I look forward to talking to you again when you end up inevitably learning your seventeenth language. Sounds. Good. Thanks for having me on Pablo. Coming up the MAC is opting out of college football this Falk. What does it mean for the rest of the sport? Yes live sports are finally back just like the rest of us, and now that we're all getting back on the road again, the stops we make seem more special than before like stopping to watch the game at friend's place or stopping at our favorites spot to cheer every amazing shot score in win and between those stops there shell stop in to fill up with Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline. It's their best fuel ever and it'll help keep your engine running like. 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First Impressions: The Buccaneers New Uniforms

The PewterCast : A Tampa Bay Bucs Fan Podcast, Buccaneers

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First Impressions: The Buccaneers New Uniforms

"Hey since you obviously like podcast you might wanNA check out optimal living daily where simply read articles to you just like an audio book but from a bunch of different authors one short reading every single day of the year to help you grow and Lou more meaningful life covering happiness personal development minimalism and more from very popular? Writers changed my life for the better and hopefully will for you to check it out and subscribe for free wherever you listen to podcasts again. That's the podcast. Optimal living daily touchdown. Tampa Bay your touchdown Tampa Bay. You're listening pewter cast well Cobb sued pewter cast in a very very special edition of an episode it is uniform revealed day right here in. Tampa Bay buccaneer land. My name is Brent Allen. I'll be host today. Joined as always my man good friend Ren Ren what's happening pal. What's happening what's happening? It's you day yeah. Uniform Day David Puckett ears. Yeah uniform Johnny go ahead armlock. Numbers are no more there. You go there you go well yes. It is definitely uniform to everybody knows that we are live here at the uniform. Reveal and buy at the uniform reveal. I mean in our houses because everybody's more in watching it online along with everybody else but You know it's kind of a big day. It's definitely news here for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And for us as fans and it's it's time to kind of get underway. Get the reveal out and see what's happening out there so these are we are live reactions as we see the video or whatever it is that they're going to put up there but rinn before we get to that you are a long time. Buccaneer Fan. You've been pretty much since day one. I'm kind of one of those guys. I came around right after they changed uniforms for the first time back in the late. Ninety S so talk to me about your ideas of the buccaneer uniforms kind of over the course of history and where we are today. You know you've listened to this podcast long enough and you know this uniform talk. I started about two years ago. You've heard me say that It doesn't really matter what the uniforms look like. If you win they look good right. You know and enough time at least with the bucks enough time has passed between now like you can. You've disassociated the Bucco Bruce Florida orange. You know with with the Red Piping uniforms away from losing and you can just look at it for what they were and their and their sharp they are like those orange face masks on the white helmets with you know what we would call the cream cycles. Yeah of course. Yeah the Bruce's with with orange and red stripe down the down the helmet they. They looked really sharp. And then you could if you can go out there on the interweb and find pictures the last time. They did a throwback. A Josh Freeman was the quarterback and those looked really good and we actually won that game But then the no helmet rule and the bucks switch to their Peter Helmet sort of at the beginning of the Glazer areas owners of the team We haven't got to see him so you have this longing for them But at the time like they they they were terrible like the team was terrible. You know other fans made fun of us. You know players like him because other players made fun of them. Because of Bucco Bruce Errol Flynn winking with a BOA feathers. Sticking out of his at Sort of silhouette there on the helmet. So they no one like no one likes those and then we came and we switched up to. I guess the first version of what you know. And that seems to be leaked. That's sort of what they're going to look a lot like now The Super Bowl version that Dungy era version Then there was a small tweak. A little later I think to the numbers and the jerseys and then we have what we have been moved to what we have now had these the past five or six years which I lose is beginning the only problem I really had whether it was alarm clock numbers and you know what if the team would a one I would have been okay with the team with a one. I don't think they would`ve. They would've switched uniforms right but again. Maybe it's not a terrible idea. For a franchise every you know sorta like half dozen or decades so to change the uniforms If you're into that because those people that are very serious about buying jerseys half the buy new ones right right right I. I hate the idea that they changed Jersey's just to force people to sell them. Although I understand it from a from a money making standpoint but I I also. I'm the kind of person I like change. I don't like for things to stay the same forever so I like an update to the Jersey every once in a while. But I'm with you on this last uniform. The one that is now the alarm clocks the the dreaded. Oh my gosh I'm with. I actually liked them outside of the numbers. Like if you rip those numbers off. Put normal numbers on. I kind of liked him. I thought they would. I thought they were rather sharp. But it's hard you can't separate the two. The fact is they had those alarm clock numbers on for whatever reason they could never even just change that. So there you go and you're right. It's associated losing it. If we had been winning people be like all. Bring me those beautiful alarm clock numbers. Because you wouldn't care you know if you're winning you don't care you're no. This is the uniform Oregon. Stay with it but we haven't gone. I've said this before. Like sort of the perfect example is the University of Alabama like universal values didn't have the player's number or names on the back of their jerseys and when they finally relent and probably the last team to do. So maybe Penn State. I don't think Penn state has the numbers in the back or letters names in the back anyway. The point being is you know Alabama was Alabama's the fifty sixty seventy s and part of the eighties. And they're tough there. Classic and look these guys are going to pound you into the dirt. And then they fell on hard times. And it's like Oh look your outdated you're out of touch with today's player and then Nick Sabin gets there and also now the uniforms are classic and cool and and don't mess with these guys again and it's like the perfect example. So right with you I. I didn't like this. You know we keep calm the alarm clock and they shall ever be known as alarm clock. I didn't love them enough where I'm upset. This is being changed But I really don't care enough about the uniforms to like stump for it. Sure if that makes sense to cook when it to the top of your twitter profile and making a platform upon base your entire media presence and then take credit for forcing the organization. Yes exactly. I'd rather I'd rather win there you go. I'm I'm with you on that and in well let me ask you. This rent is is we go. The clock is ticking. Down here at the uniforms are going to be revealed soon. Assuming through a press conference or something of that nature video I I assume it's more than just a picture they're gonNA put out on twitter but there's been a few quote unquote leaks. Among people have described out. There are Sammer over at loose cannons. He has done a thousand mockups and of look great and some of them have not been my style and I don't like them. But what do you put any weight behind some of these leaks? What are you expecting her anticipating To See happen. Or what would you like to see happen with the new uniforms outside of just win? Yeah between Salmon all the other people that have put out sort of You know what they look like or even before the bucks officially now say we're changing them like what about this? Hey book fancy like these. You like these. I'm sure there's something out there that's very close to you. Know what they are going to be what they actually are. And I think I'm just GonNa Kinda stick will be a said because he seen him and he said at the combine that they're they're closer to the super bowl run You know they're I. I guess the first big change they had when they dumped bucco bruce in the orange and the white and went to the -puter and read. So that's what I'm expecting I hope I really do. I hope they sort of have an because they did. I mean back when they did change. Those those Went to the Putin read. They did have a you know. Florida orange cream cynical orange stripe in their pants. So you know that was. Sort of like the Odin throwback to it so I hope there's something like that it could be simple as like maybe the football you know on the helmet if they don't change the decal amount expecting or whoever makes these Reebok Nike. Whoever they are maybe the swoosh you know is that cream sickle orange or maybe like on the cuff of the sleeve and the neck might be you know or something like that but It besides that that's all I'm really hoping for a dream. Scenario switched the white helmets. So they could do the throwbacks just Kober sticker on. Yeah and I don't even know why they discount paint them for a week. I really don't but whatever But but You Know I. I really don't think that's going to happen because there is you know talks and no one's really sure if if it's GonNa be pushed through or not but it's on the table that The one helmet rule is going to be loosened or relax or maybe being thrown out the window. Altogether in the twenty twenty one season. If that happens then we will all get our wish And get to see a Tom. Brady and a and cream cycle are you. Are you hoping for any particular Like colored you wanted to keep the the red color rush. There's been I like one of the things I really like about Sam and of the mockups he's done with a pewter gleich color rush. I think those of looks real sharp. Is there a particular combination? You're looking for out there. I've been screaming for Peter Color since you know it was done. What was it Thursday night? Game where the jets and the and the bills came out and gesture all green. The bills are already like what is this right at every color blind person couldn't tell the difference exactly exactly. Yeah every every middle aged men over the age of forty couldn't couldn't couldn't tell what the hell's going on but Yeah so. I was hoping that they'd be. I was hoping like all white or all. Peter you know allred. I thought yeah. It'd be cool but you know a color that only Tampa has an and I just think that it would be cool to be able to stand out like that because I know the dolphins like Dago. Sort OF ALL ORANGE. And that's kind of like an all cream sickle. So you know that was another one I was stumping for so I think if I had my pick I would probably you know I would lease want to see. I don't know if I'd like him. You know 'cause you know a all grey Oh great. You know those. That's the color you put in like insane asylums in middle schools to calm down the patients and the kids so You know that would be the one. I'd like to see the see how you know how that works with. The helmet are well rent with that. I see here they have. I guess it's IT'S A. It's about a one minute long video. That's how they're doing this. It's not a press conference or anything like that. So why don't we take a moment? We'll play a little quick music interlude. While ran you and I watched this video. We'll check it out. We'll be right back with our initial reactions to this particular new uniform. So stay right with the skies. We'll be right back. Rehn will that's it they're here. The new uniforms are officially revealed. They are out and boy. Oh boy do they look pretty close to a lot of these leaks not exactly. They are a little bit different. I think than some of these leaks but they are pretty close. I don't even know where to begin in talking about this guy so I'll just get your first reaction to looking at these new uniforms. They look like the Super Bowl era uniforms. They do they do. They've got the ship back on. You know the side of the shoulder there are. Should we talk about sort of like the little things that have changed? I mean besides the numbers. Obviously everyone listening already seen him. Because if you if you care enough to listen to our pod you care about the graphics that goes along with this yeah so I mean the the face massive gone to black. Yeah but the helmet looks the same. Yes yes the rest of the helmet looks the same and the home and away kits. I will say Do have the orange line down the pants with. I'd like it seems to be the only spot on there except for maybe the football you know on the helmet. There was a mock out there that I liked a lot where they had two stripes across the top of the shoulder. I always thought I every time I saw that. I just kind of like way that look. This doesn't have it But yeah I mean you know. The -puter looks a little more gun metal grey than sort of like that silver crummy. It look like silver ARPITA. That's been for a while especially in back in the Super Bowl bucks was look like they took gold and silver mixed together right. So is this that you've been a flat? Not as shiny probably won't changes the color as much when they sweat in them getting those but sweat snakes would actually it would change the color of the bats right but you know so like they're out there running around two tone and you know we I guess we got our wish but yeah they won't do it all pewter almost like I said gunmetal Gray Colorado Shia. Do you WanNa talk about that. Because what I notice on the the pewter color rush whereas with the other two jerseys the home and away the regular red and white the numbers are outlined in or there is an orange. Stripe is part of the outline for the numbers ran so it goes red orange and then black on the whites. And then on the reds. It's the white number with orange and then black so there is some orange there as well but over on the color rush the pewter one. It's just a white number with red outline and everything on the Color Rush Jersey is trimmed out and read and if I if I being critical. I don't know that I love the Red Trim on all those on all that -puter but other than that I I like it. They're they're very sharp and I'll say this. I'm kind of comparing. I'm being back and forth the new uniforms versus the Super Bowl eras numbers. The numbers are similar but they are a little bit different. Like they're thicker. I think the the actual number part is thicker. They might be a little bigger but the red the the red that they're using now is more in line with the red that we have most recently had with the alarm clock. Jerseys which is it's like a deeper or like like a like a brighter red versus what we had back in the Super Bowl era. And maybe it's just the picture that was taken back then. It looked more like a like a red had a little more black mixed in it not as Bright Crimson. Yeah Yeah but But Yeah it's it's I like them. I think you know I I don't know how much of the jerseys effect you know. It's like look good. Feel good play good like I don't know how much I buy into that mantra. You know but I I. It could be interesting to see what what happens here. You know The same with a color rough series. They all come great. There is no hint of orange on it at all. No no no piping pants. There's no piping on the numbers there there. There's nothing and you know again if you haven't seen him yet and you're listening to this. What are you doing so are you even box fat and if you have it they kinda look like an Ohio. State alternate uniform is what they look like. You know The the the Buckeyes is a is a silver and red. Maybe they're still in Crimson. Who knows you know but But I you know that's a lot what reminds me of when I see it without if I look at it without the helmet you know I would say oh Ohio states like you know. We're being fancying. Cool Today. Uniform but But I like it I like the change to the pewter to the more like the gun metal grey which looks it looks actually more Peter instead of like some crummy silver gold Amalgamation I liked the black face mask. I know everyone loved the chrome facemask. I didn't like I I just I thought it was. Maybe because when like oh we're changes coming soon in like they just increased the helmet or the logo and put our chrome facemask. And it's like there's so there's like big reveal of it and how Chrome Hazmat thanks. Thanks yeah I'M GONNA go back to work now. Well Ren speaking of work so yeah I mean. That's the uniforms I I like them. I'm for them. I definitely liked them better than the alarm clock numbers. Although I don't know it's so hard for me to separate the Old Jersey away from the numbers Essentially more of a classic look. But it's not the Super Bowl era. We did not go backwards. We really didn't I don't mean classic. And buccaneers like realm. I mean classic as an uniforms period. You know this. Isn't you know the Houston Rockets? You know when they change their spaceship look like they looked like they're you know they should have been a tomorrowland sort of poster world. You know it wasn't when the Broncos went from you know you know the D. With the Horse and now there's a flaming horse and there's like three swishes half stripe up their pants and a half a stripe down their helmet You know it's a it's a pretty classic and I like Yeah it's clean. You know I think I heard Maybe Denver Crisci when say that when they tease at reveal showing them looking at the uniform? Yeah they look clean to me an interesting thing like Chris Godwin. Who's in this crisci? Dave and of course Devon White Crisci was wearing fourteen his new number which but when they filmed the first part of it showing them the uniform he was still twelve. So this is a recent shoot. Oh yeah which means or they had that change already situated along time ago but yeah now this is probably a recent right. Yeah Yeah and Eleanor. How many people took to shoot that? I don't know I don't know there's I'm looking at a couple of the still shots. They've kind of populated. There's one that shows. It's got three. The three guys individually Levante read crystals and gray and Devon's in white and they're all like running towards the camera and Devon's right in the middle and the way they snapped his his his right leg is like bent up behind him and it looks like he only has one leg. It looks like his right leg amputated Which which is really funny. I I'll see if I can't shoot that out to you That's okay it's Yeah I don't really know what else to say about these right. I mean I I A- proof not gonNA to change anything but the numbers numbers on the shoulders. I guess we should talk about it on the top of the shoulders. Yeah Yeah and that's pretty much about it. Yeah I would say in comparing these to the Super Bowl era. I think the big things that I know is the colors are brighter. It seems to me the numbers do look a little bigger. I think they're bigger on the Jersey a bigger on the on the the chest and then more space uh-huh and and it just but they're very clean. There's not a lot of clutter on these on these uniforms now. so two-tone shoulders no like no. There's there's stripes on the sleeves. That's something that's pretty rare for. Nfl teams right. Teams have stripe on the sleeves. Get the Nike swoosh on each sleeve though so you can't leave that out now but yeah and then the black face mask. I think the black face mask. I think I'm GonNa like going back to the black face mask I really do. But it's I mean honestly of all the things on the uniform that I care about the most the color of the facemask whether it's chrome or black is probably one of the least things that's like I could care less about between the two uniforms. Yeah I be. I just didn't want to be embarrassed like try to go super. You know do some stupid you know. Try to be a fashion Ford. The alarm clock numbers. I saw somebody today to these ones. That were just awful mockups but it was an idea that I thought maybe the pucks might do where they like. I said at the stripe down the pants they did it. Sort of like an angle from the hip down the front across you know the size and to the knee because it looks like a sash like a red sash pirate would wear and. I'm like I wouldn't be surprised if like like alarm clock numbers like I would not put it past them right. They're like look you're pirate so dumb but I'm glad they it looked pretty classic I'm happy with them. You know I'm not embarrassed and I guess that's that was like as much as I wanted going just on embarrassed me as a Fan. I'm with our Renoir. I think that's going to do it for us man this. I think we've exhausted the uniform. Talk there yes everybody. Go Buy your uniform. I guess read. Who's WHO's Jersey are you buying? I okay yeah again. If you listen to the PODCAST I had a matter Jersey Guy. But I'm not sure like these staunch people that that are like if you're over forty you can't wear a Jersey or you can't Tuck Your Jersey in which I I'm kind of for that one but it's your Jersey would do it everyone with it but I am a person who doesn't wear like another grown man's name on my back because I'm grown so I guess I sort of fit in with that those people but my caveat is if you're at the game by all means where if you're going out you know to with your friends to the local wing joint or local bar to watch the game where Your Jersey because that's why you bought it. You weren't for that day during the game but besides I don't wear to Publix like no. Don't don't wear it to work. You know Those things I just I just can't get echoes for any Jersey like I'm talking about basketball. You Know Baseball Soccer Baseball Jersey. The game where. You'RE HOCKEY JERSEY. I say soccer. Where where? You'RE HOCKEY JERSEY. When you go to light any gamer out watching lightning game with friends or by yourself like that's completely fine but as an accessory like a hat like home depot and throw on your Stamkos Jersey. No right no I am. I understand why people do it. I don't personally but I'm with you. My my rule is generally where the game. I'll wear at the day of the game. Even if I'm not going to the game you know like I like you know around the house. Yeah run house or you know if I'm going to have health it's Sunday. I'm going to church this morning before the game and I might wear my Jersey to church in the Lord's will be okay with it because he is but now but outside of that yeah. I don't I don't typically wear but I if if I get a Jersey to see you know because you have not influenced me in. This is just the way I've always been a jersey. I want one with my own name on the back. Like custom one with honestly my number from high school when I played football all those many years ago. Why now on the back? That's how I'M GONNA THAT'S JERSEY. So what's what's the name. What's the number from high school? Seventy is that something our pet seventy. Is Anybody Seventy two. You'd think I'd get on. Yeah he's one of those numbers that's been the last person that was seventy two. I think was Logan Mankins. And it's been it's been shifting marquette seventy four hours eighteen buccaneer Logan Megan's there you go there you go. Yeah it's it's one of those. It's nobody that like I can personally get behind so far this number job in that. So you're not getting a to on the back of your of Your seventy-two though so not doing it all right guys. Well that's going to you know we talk about how what? Four buccaneers made the all decade team. That have a total of three years service with the Bucket. No Miss So. The buccaneers came out the buccaneers. Nfl came out with their all decade team. Right uh-huh and there are four people on there that on the all decade team that have played for the buccaneers or will play for the buccaneers. Hopefully eventually and if you add up all their years of service as Abucha near it adds up to three years okay. Who are the four People Brady? Okay earlier service or a new one year service in case you're wondering Gerald McCoy did not make the real reebus. Okay what was he was he? Two years one was just the one who's been another. You're injured or something like that right. Yeah Yeah we pay him sixteen million dollars in the first round. Pick another late round. Pick for him to come off an injury. When you're kind of that was bad. That was Terrible House. Bed and then You know your boy Logan Mankins Logan had to write nope displayed one. Now we had to okay. Did he wait? I swore he played two years here. Okay anyway matter all right well. That's all right. Finally yes we have to thank everyone and and all and plus our competitors you know. Of course. I'm talking about the Knicks. Sitra site. Throw I call him. Nitro nitro sites of bucks report. He put together that sort of a march madness bracket. And you know you and I had very tough mashups individually. Personally I WANNA GET RICK. Stroud in the first round who do go. Yeah the only thing you had going for you was like Anti Stroud. People like who's is bred out. I don't know but I don't like that's not an and I went up against you. Know like the lead draft writer for the USA. Today Luque's early so we didn't have a chance but when we combine forces by all powers combined made it all the way to the final four was That was that was pretty crazy. That was an I. GotTa tell you to be quite frank that that whole thing. It was just something that was just for fun but it while honestly wound up. I think meaning a lot more to me than it probably should have and in Rennes absolutely right to everyone who voted for the Peter Cast and push through because we we and like the first round. I don't even know who he went against. It was somebody that I don't know that I personally ever heard of before. Yes there is a Lotta instagram accounts. In the first round even know existed. Not that you know. It's not a fun follow but I don't know I just not really inscription have been in there because there are different. Put up a picture and like you know doing an hour. Long podcast or writing for the paper or writing for fi fan sided or sportsbook nation. I but But they have a lot of followers. So I I kinda get yeah. We went up against a instagram. I've never even like I. I like MED. Shout out to them but but we pass that one but then after that we want to begin the quote unquote number one seed in our division. Which by the way we were the eighth seed beat the number one seat which was wd right. Which why do you think we'd be because quite frankly? I think we have better content than they do and I've listened to the when I'm down in Tampa. I don't even live in Tampa but the times I do. I'm down in Tampa. I listened to their stuff and I go. We have a better show if you and I and I truly believe this if you and I both I'm and this is so prideful for me to say I don't care if you and I were employed by a radio station. We would be one of the number one if not the number. One Talk. Radio shows in Tampa Bay. I think our show is that good. I really do you understand that. You'd have to learn about hockey and baseball though right for the rest of the for the rest of the year well because gotta fill three hours five days a week Ryan. We can't we can't talk about the buccaneers and during the off season. We're going what once every two weeks for an hour somewhere around there and they're going on fifteen hours a week. I listen I I totally understand what you're saying but as far as when it comes to bucks content and what we're doing here they And and this was this was. This wasn't just a Tampa Bay covering everybody. Kind of a thing. This this really was about bucks. Centric people and as far as that goes. I think that our bucks coverage is better than wd. I really do. I think our listeners know that I think our listeners appreciate that and I think it actually was reflected in a lot of those brackets because we weren't out stumping for. I mean we made a couple of little like kind of jokey videos but they but they pushed us up over the number one seed. Wd which which was like. Wow and then after that we went up against our friend James Money Hill and we have fun going back and forth with him. Which by the way read your video. If you guys have not seen Rennes video during that time I it's a Tiger King Spoof. It is amazing. I- cackled the entire way through watching. I had no idea what you're doing but it was so funny right. Thanks yeah yeah through that together like a half an hour And it was okay. It was okay. You gotTA SORTA pay tend to what I'm saying because almost everything I say is wrong. I call it the Peter. Pewter logo cats up somewhere and you know felt so sure of bad anything since I ran for governor of the Great City of Oklahoma you know. Is there a lot of sort of like you? Got To pay attention to what he's saying but You know sheriff. I step to do that but we didn't one take but you warned me like you can only go on twitter a minute forty or two minutes twenty at the Max Day and I went over so we had a castle when I ended up I had to cut the first part about it and the whole first part was about me explaining why. I don't look like jokes. I need you. I need you to send me the full video. We'll released at some point here but gentle rent. Yeah so So yeah but no thanks. Every here's my thing with One I mean obviously. They have way more twitter followers today. Like twenty two thousand or something but they only use her twitter page for self promotion like they don't interact with anybody you know on twitter. It's just this is our show so they don't sort of Get into conversations or answer questions from people that follow them on twitter. You know so. I think that hurt them. Because it's a twitter poll and then also you know. I do agree with you. I think you know something I said a lot. I should say a lot but quite a few times. It's like if Debbie did a better job covering the buccaneers. There wouldn't be fifty thousand buccaneer Fan podcast. Absolutely they're just letting the right. You don't really engage with with people anymore calling you know I put somebody you put something on twitter about how it said you guys are better. That's why you're wing. And they were pretty nasty to about. Wd You know us like. They really blinking blinking. Suck and I just tweeted what I just basically said you know. Was You know they've made a change and it's at college anymore? You know. Some people like Chan. Some people don't and Tom Cruise Nikki. It was like Oh. We're we're always been about the collards and then he rambled off like we do tax do facebook. But that's what it is like if you listen to the show. And all their shows they they like text will come in and they pick one they like and they'll say out loud and they'll comment on it for like two three seconds and then go on to what they were doing. You know. That's what they do. It's like it's not. It's not caller driven anymore. It's just not for me and I think it's not for a lot of people and I think when they talk books and we talk bucks. I think we blow it out of the water. I'd I agree and I. I don't want to come off as that person that you describe who was like. 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Prof. Josh Frieman, Head of the Particle Physics Division at Fermilab and Professor of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of Chicago

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Prof. Josh Frieman, Head of the Particle Physics Division at Fermilab and Professor of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of Chicago

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Please send up to info at scientific sense dot, com. And I can be reached at Gil at eappen Dot Info. My yesterday's specific Josh Freeman Who's Head of the Particle Physics Division Flimsy? that. Department of Energy, national, artery, near Chicago that Getty sub funded Russo physics he's also a professor of astronomy Ns for physics in the Catholic Institute focused logical physics at the University of Chicago. I just got a new president of the Aspen Center for physics. He's a member of the American Academy of Arts, and sciences unrefined oil at Salonika society, a fellow of the American Physical Society and that made against sociation for advancement of Science Bokan Josh. Thank you pleasure to be with you. Thanks so much for being here I want to start with sort of a general discussion on cosmology at the particular focus on your focus dogmatic doc energy. To give an idea of and audience could be a let me sort of revealed by your ignorance. revealing age Josh, I have to say but I, wasn't engineering at northwestern the as I was uncomfortable but what I did not narrow. But when I wasn't Finance University of Chicago the nineties I was uncomfortable with what I knew. So now I ready for physics. I. Think. So. So be no something happened looking point eight billion years ago we don't exactly what it is and the universe was born. It was Denson caught and over long of time it expanded and cooled down. it was what really thought to be sort of static universe, but I'm Stein and others. Abundant hobbled. University of Chicago in the twenty s threw a wrench into that theory by finding that the galaxies at all running away from us. So the problem was expanded expanding universe. Would have told us that the gravity of the stuff that'd be seeing the universe would slow down over time. expansion I mean over time. So that expectation but Nike Ninety Eight, you and others showed that the expansion of the universe fat is in fact accelerated. Are Not showing down. So now, the multiple problems right could you could you provide a quick historical journey through puzzles? Chore and that was that was an excellent summary actually end but I do need to make one correction, which is I was not directly involved in the the nineteen ninety, eight discovery but wh- get Okay. So. Yes. So as you pointed out You know Hubble and others established that the universe was expanding back in the nineteen twenties and I would say you know in the decades following that the. Our picture of. Of the expansion of the universe came together with this view that if you if the galaxies are all moving away from each other. you run that movie backward the galaxies would all be approaching each other. And then you now we now know that thirteen point eight doing years ago they would also on top of each other. And that's an event we call the Big Bang. And that's really as far back as we can go with our current, understanding the the laws of physics and so we know. The number of observations following Hubbell's. Particularly the. Of the cosmic microwave background in the nineteen sixties this relic radiation. Of Microwave that fills the universe that currently has a temperature of three degrees above absolute zero that really solidified this picture of the universe starting with a big bang and then expanding outward. From all points this emp point. So to see him be. The constantly microwave background. So this is sort of the baby picture of the universe, right? That's right. Something like three, hundred and eighty thousand years after the Big Bang. That's right. So so Exactly right. So in the very early universe, as you said, it was very hot and dense, which meant that the early universe was kind of a fog particles were interacting scattering off of each other. So frequently that they just couldn't go very far. It wouldn't travel great distances before they would hit another particle and in particular photons particles of the microwave background of light were interacting very rapidly with ordinary matter up until three, hundred, eighty, thousand years after the Big Bang, and then what happened is that by that time, the universe had become cool enough and diffuse enough. That all these charged particles, protons and electrons started finding each other and combining to form neutral hydrogen atoms. Once that happened, the photons were no longer frequently scattering they they could travel much more freely. In fact, they could essentially travel heated from that point until today. So you're right it means is when we're looking at this cosmic microwave background. Radiation. the we're seeing a picture of the universe as it was three, hundred, eighty, thousand years after the big banks. So sorry I'm sorry I needed to stop on getting some weird systems thing that says my system's going to reboot all. That's fine as updates were installed in system needs reboot in five minutes I'm going to try to stop that. From happening Okay. I don't know if I can if I if I drop off in three minutes, you'll. Okay. Apologies for that. But yet, but that's exactly right. The cosmic microwave background gives us this picture of the adult you said, baby. Universe. I would've said adolescent universe but nevertheless universe when it was much much younger than it is today. So that mechanics. These photons escape been hydrogen atoms are formed at dipping traveling. Thirteen point eight billion years or close to it. And and they get rich shifted all the way to the microwave snout, right? That's what we're seeing. Yes exactly right and so what we're seeing is Of course when when three, hundred, eight, thousand years ago. The universe was much harder. It was You know thousands of degrees. So the that light was as you said, was that much had much higher energies much shorter wavelengths much higher frequencies yet but as the universe expands the wavelength of light gets shifted from from the the the blue or from. To the red or low energy, and so most of the the photons in the microwave background today are in this microwave region which we can use to, which we can detect with radio telescopes. So how found things are kind of moving away from US Einstein didn't really like that because he wanted the sort of a static picture and so so what did he do? To consult us. So that's yeah, that's a good question. So I I wouldn't say necessarily that ironside wanted static picture it was rather that you have to remember when Einstein. was coming up with with his theory of gravity general relativity. use as well before the work of Hubble, we didn't even know what the scale of the universe was. There was this big argument about whether these nebulae these little blotchy clouds were even you know things within our galaxy or maybe they were distant other galaxies know what? Immanuel Kant called Island universes and so. So, basically, you know I think the conventional picture of that period when Einstein was working in the nineteen teens was that the universe was our galaxy of stars and if you just look at the stars in our galaxy. they're not moving away from us are moving towards yet they're moving around, but there's no net expansion or contraction. Of Stars within our galaxy and so it was reasonable. To say, okay, the universe you know the stars are just moving on these random orbits. Therefore, there's no overall expansion contraction. Therefore, the universe is static it's always been this way because there was really no evidence to the contrary, and so you're right. What happened was that shortly after inventing his theory of general relativity, which again is this new theory of gravity that replaced Newton's theory which tells us that matter curves space time and other other masses particles move in this curves space-time. Einstein realized when he applied this, he and others actually applied this to cosmology to trying to understand the universe is a whole. That it generally predicted that the universe would not be static dynamic, be expanding or contracting. He knew that the stars in our galaxy. Were not all moving rushing away from US or towards us. So he said, okay, there must be My theory doesn't predict a universe that we see it predicts a dynamic universe. The evidence is that the universe at least that we could see at that time before Hubble was static and so he introduced a new element into his theory. Called the cosmological constant. Sorry Nobody's. and Sorry. This might watch talking to me. There so I have a quick question. So young confusion, the general public has sometimes is that. Up Anything about the expanding universe is really the fabric of space time that's expanding people really see it inside our galaxy. Be Don't see it. You know our solar system expanding, right? It's all going by gravity so so Confusion right yeah. That's a very good point. We only see the expansion of the universe. On scales larger than our galaxy. Or Galaxy. We didn't even know about really that there were other galaxies at that time. So we didn't know they were moving away from us. That was only discovered in late nineteen twenties Hubble and. So. It was reasonable to assume that the universe was static Einstein and others found though when they applied the theory of general timidly to the universe as a whole. That, it would be dynamic, it would be expanding or contracting. E at the top. Now, of course, he later said this was his biggest blunder. He's reputed to have said, this is his biggest blunder because of course, he could have said Oh, my. Is expanding and he would have predicted. You know Hubbell's later discovery not clear. He really said that or not but in any case. He didn't he didn't have the gumption to make that prediction and instead he decided to introduce this new element into his theory of general relativity. that he called the cosmological constant and it's it's basically. It's A new term which. Is New in the sense that. Stein Theory of General Timothy. When you make certain approximations looks just like Newton's theory of gravity that we're all familiar with that describes apples falling on your head and satellites going around the earth. But this new term that that Einstein introduced is something that's nowhere doesn't. Approximate to anything in Newton's theory of gravity. So in that sense, it's really New and he thought of it as a new constant of nature. Thought of sort of neutralize neutralize expansion that exact information. Okay. Exactly. So he introduced this new constant precisely. So because he realized that this constant could kind of balance out. the the the effects of. In the sense. That you know gravity's and attractive. force, and so it would tend to. Make the universe contract. you need something that would sort of counter act that if you WANNA have. A Universe that isn't contracting or expanding that's just stables his static and so he introduced this constant that would be a kind of counter force. To the attractive force of gravity and he showed correctly that you could get a universe which is static, which is expanding or contracting if you have this constant and it has the correct value, and that value turns out to be so small that we wouldn't have observed its effects on the scale of stars in our galaxy, and so it was sort of a safe thing for him to have introduced and the interesting thing was What Einstein didn't realize was That the solutions, the static universe solutions to his theory with cosmos constant were unstable. So if you turbe the the universe gets slightly. From this Einstein. Static universe. It's called than it would either contract or expand, and so you wouldn't expect the universe after billions of years to still be in this static state, it would be expanding or contracting, and so in a sense he you know, and of course, hobble later discovered that the universe was expanding and once that happened Einstein said, Oh, you know that was the biggest mistake I ever made I should never introduced this term and of course, others than pointed out that it didn't even do what he really wanted it to do anyway. But so that's the lambda that's conventional lambda or schedule called land yoke, and so so then hopper state of game came forward. did he keep a date liquidation or did he just set it to seven zero or just take it out completely Well. So it was interesting I. Think you know at that time Einstein's view. I believe was just okay. Hubbell's found. That the universe is expanding, there's no rationale for introducing this constant. And so yes, we should just ignore just set to zero. and. The interesting thing is I think If you look at sort of cosmology in the twentieth century. Lambda. This term. Sort of had a very bizarre history sense that Einstein originally introduced it for the wrong reasons. And then he said Okay let's get rid of it. But then others periodically. There would be a new kind of. In cosmetology which didn't quite fit and people would would sort of drag the cosmos constant out of the closet and say oh. We can explain this new observation if we introduce the cosmos constant. Not necessarily to get a static solution, but to get some kind of solution that fits this particular data set. He does. Yeah go ahead not just August meeting at. Crotch that you can. Exactly. It was a crutch and then a few years later people would realize that this new data set they were trying to explain was wrong and so they would stuff the cosmological constant back into the closet and say okay. Sorry. We didn't mean that that was a mistake and then a few years later, some other new observation will come out and they would again pull the crotch out of the closet and again years later stuff it back in and I think people. So it's sort of got a weird reputation as this. Sort of something you're not very proud of that never dies that never dies yeah and I think really what what changed though Is. Realizations actually from People studying the physics of elementary particles. At some point realizing that wait a minute. You can't just stuff this thing back in the closet. And that in fact in. In the theory of quantum theory, you can actually predict calculate what the value of the cosmos constant should be because in quantum theory. The cosmological constant gets reinterpreted. It's not this constant of nature that you can. Choose set to some arbitrary value, which is what Einstein's view was. Instead, it was really realized that. This this actually realization came early on but it sort of took years to really gain acceptance I think the. What people physicist realized is you could reinterpret this not as a new constant of nature. But in fact, as the energy of empty space itself. there was. The, puzzle bitches university is. Extremely, uniformed ISOTOPIC. And so he needed from from the from the Big Bang perspective it needed something else I needed inflation. It sort of explain it right and so how does that that change the view of Lambert's at all? Yeah. So that's that's a good point So, in essence. That's in a way, a continuation of of this story which is. it was realized that Lambda was associated with the energy of empty space or the energy of the vacuum. And it was also realized that that energy can change at it can change just when universe undergoes certain phase changes what we call a phase transition so just like. You know you. You go through a phase transition from say water to ice as you cool it. We believe now from the physics of elementary particles that as the universe expanded and cooled, it actually went through a series of these phase transitions. And when that happens. You can show that this energy of the of the vacuum of empty space should change in it change by very large amount. and. This vacuum energy was recognized by Alan Guth and others around nineteen eighty. that. You could have a kind of phase transition where the universe would. A, what he called it Super Cooling. So you can get a situation where you cool water down, but because of external External circumstances, it doesn't immediately changed ice it sort of stays in the super cold liquid state. And Algal realize that in in theories of elementary particle, the same thing can happen to the universe and if that did, then what would happen is that this lambda? This vacuum energy associated with this phase transition would become dominant and would drive the universe to expand extremely rapidly in fact exponentially. So just the opposite of what Einstein had introduced landed to do instead of making static, it would drive this extremely. Rapid expansion which Alan guth called inflation. This would happen in his theory, a tiny fraction of a second after the Big Bang. And if it if that period of very rapid expansion last long enough. It can effectively explain a lot of the large scale features of the universe that we observe. As you mentioned. The fact that it's appears Eissa Tropic looks the same in different directions. It looks homogeneous that is it looks like it has the same properties over here as does over there and in fact, we now believe that period of inflation is also what produced all of the structure that we now see in the universe through through the effects of quantum mechanics. So making mystically Josh. So what stops that inflationary fees is a lambda cheating. At inflation happens. Yeah. That's a good question. So So the answer is in this, it's again, we don't know exactly because we don't know what the correct theory of inflation is. But again, it's the idea is essentially that this phase transition offense of eventually does go to completion. So if you super cool a liquid. for long enough eventually turns into ice and so that's the idea is that eventually? The physics of this. Of this transition goes to completion. and the universe and when that happens. This this lambda, this energy of vacuum goes away. It's it's really a a transitory properties, a property of this super cold state which then disappear. So it's not it's not a true constant of nature, the way Einstein thought of it. So. So so that so that is still sort of being. Explode but I think that is accepted idea. Inflation. Right. I. Think it has yet. It's I would say it's you know it fits all the observations very well So it's certainly a working hypothesis of most cosmologists not all but most. I know that there's an experiment going on in in Chilean and. The South for the look at the Radiation Inha and so on due to fully confirm it but it seems like a large number of cosmologists accept that and then we have this nagging ninety eight problem. which is a it was super Supernova. Right. So that gets right. So what we were just talking about with inflation. You can think of is as a period when there was something like a 'cause wants constant but very, very early in cosmic history tiny fraction of a second after the Big Bang inflation ends we go re transition to a normal universe. So called normal, which has basically matter and radiation. So photons and others. Go through this period that we already talked about three hundred and eighty thousand years after the Big Bang when suddenly the photons get free and they tr- stream towards towards US freely and then. and. Then the assumption had been that as the universe continue to expand and get more dilute the dominant force on large scales was gravitation. which would make the universe. The expansion gradually slowed down right the galaxies. over on this part of the sky are moving away from the galaxies over in this other part of the sky but gravity's still tugging between them. So you expect them to to gradually slow down relative to each other. But what was discovered in nineteen ninety eight and there were there were certainly there were definitely hints earlier for something like this going back to the early nineteen nineties but the definitive data set. Data sets was in nineteen, ninety eight, and this was two teams of astronomers studying supernovae. These are stars that that once they run through their lifetime explode. They become very bright over the course of two weeks. A star that was you know maybe comparable in brightness to standard star or less suddenly became as bright as an entire galaxy billions of stars. And What was done in in the late nineteen, Ninety S is. they realized these two teams realized that they could actually systematically discover. These supernovae rather than having to just wait for one to go off by chance. They could actually. Set up a program where they knew they would discover Supernova and that was something relatively new. That's SUPERNOVA, very rare. They go off about once per century in in a typical galaxy. So you don't just look at a single galaxy for a hundred years. That's you know that's too. But you realize if you look at. A gazillion galaxy, he's over the course of a number of nights. Then just by chance, you will see a number of the Supernova and if you have a big telescope that can see distant galaxies, then you will see Supernova. Very far away, and so that's what they did. These two teams really. Were the first to kind of have. These programs where they were guaranteed to discover quite distant Supernova in what they each discovered a few tens of Supernova. That were very far away and they found that those Supernova were about twenty five percent fainter. Than, they expected them to be based on previous observations of more nearby Supernova. You and this was really the evidence that faintness of those distant supernovae relative to what we expected was this evidence that universe that the expansion was speeding up it was not slowing down gravity, but it was speeding up to do something. which we now call dark energy. So that that brightness Josh is so is that something? You know something standard about right So so what does that make? Good. Yeah. Good question. So you're right. There's a particular kind of Supernova that they were focused on called type one a Supernova it's just a particular. We classify Supernova based on certain. Observable features in the spectrum of their life and the type one a Supernova had been found. To be as you ask, as you suggested a nearly standard candles, which which what that means is you know think of light bulbs and you have probably a bunch of different kinds of light bulbs in your house. But you imagine you know some of them may be twenty, five watts. Some of them may be fifty watt some of the may be hundred watts, but suppose you decided, okay all I want is hundred watt light bulbs and so every light that you put in your house suppose you put only one hundred watt light bulbs in well. Then if you know that all your bulbs have the same brightness. Than, by looking by looking at each bulb and seeing how bright it appears to you, you can tell how far away it is the bulbs, the lamps that are closer to you look writer than the ones farther away and if they're all hundred watt bulbs, you can actually buy detecting how much light you're getting from the nearby lamp versus the more distant one. You can tell the relative distance that they are away from you. So it's called standard candles. That's the technique that was used. It turns out these type one a Supernova they are. We think the explosions of White Dwarf Stars. And we believe for a number of reasons and have evidence to believe that these white dwarf stars when they about two and a half weeks after the explode. Are All, very similar to each other and brightness that they're all not exactly the same wattage that wattage berries up and down by maybe ten twenty percent but that's good enough to use them to to map out the expansion. So so you see a Supernova at some some galaxy you already have a distance measure to that gallon galaxy by some other means though it's decisively the brightness of that Supernova that tells you the distance and then the other piece of information you have. Is You measure the spectrum of light from sale the stars in that galaxy? That tells you what we call the redshift, which is essentially how fast that galaxy is moving away from us due to the expansion of the universe. If you have both redshift or the recession speed from the spectrum, and then you have the distance from the brightness of the SUPERNOVA. Danny, and then by looking at the ratio of essentially the the recession speed to the distance for a number of different galaxies. At different distances from us. That allows you to map out this. Cosmic expansion history, we call it. It's basically how fast the universe. has been expanding at different points in time as we go out in space and therefore back in time. And so be cloned the flounder. Those things are moving notice moving as but moving at a faster rate. time. So the universe is accelerating expect. That's right. And so that doesn't quite fit with a sort of a standard. Teary Dan so so so you have to do something to try to explain this right? Exactly. So just the way Stein introduced the cosmological constant to get a static universe. It was already well known. That if you if the universe was speeding up was accelerating and not slowing down due to gravity. That to do, this would be to again pull the cosmos constant out of the closet as we did at any time hasn't through the twentieth century, stick it back into the equations, and again if you gave it the right value. It would It would tell you that the universe starting about seven years ago St- went from slowing down to speed up. And so the initial. I would say interpretation or the simplest interpretation of what the Supernova data were telling us. Was that in fact? We had to pull Einstein's cosmos constant out of the closet yet again and. That was part of the reason I think why? Initially there was quite a bit of skepticism. In the late nineties from some quarters people saying Oh this is that same old story they're pulling it out of the closet again. To explain this later data set, you know it's just all going to go away and then they'll the Strana mors will stuff it back in the closet. But this time, it has sort of physical leading to it. Well I think it has the same meaning I mean are as I was saying before our physical interpretation of the cosmological constant did change in the intervening period. in terms of instead of thinking of it, necessarily as a constant of nature, thinking of it as the energy of space itself, and as I mentioned physicists in the meantime had thought more about how to calculate what that energy of empty space should be. So you can imagine a thought experiment I have here I have a bottle of water on my desk. I could imagine you know ceiling this bottle hooking host to it a vacuum hose, sucking all the air molecules out of this bottle. and so suppose I did that in a way that the bottle was just completely empty of molecules it had only empty space in. Now in classical physics, you can calculate what the energy of. Of. The empty space in that bottle is and it's zero. There's no particles. So there's no energy in quantum physics and this was actually recognized early on by Wolfgang Collie and others. you can calculate what the. Of empty space is in quantum mechanics. and. It's not zero in unfortunately the answer you get is in. and we know that's not the right answer. There's not an infinite amount of vacuum energy in this in this water bottle here so The point is we knew that it had a renewed that there was. A physical way to describe this. Of, vacuum, energy but we still as of yet don't have a consistent way to calculator but still. Physical the point is though that because we think it has this physical interpretation. physicists eventually realized that you know we can't just keep pulling this thing out of the closet stuffing in. It's something that in principle we should be able to calculate. You know we get infinity. We know that's the wrong answer but that doesn't tell us that the correct answer zero the correct answer if we are smart enough. Maybe something that's non zero that we haven't yet figured out to calculate how to calculate and I should say that Y-. People over time trying to fix up that calculation. But even if you try to fix it up, you still get an answer which is. Over in some cases over one hundred hours a magnitude larger than what we know to be and it's I like to say that it's you know it's really hard to make a math error that big you know if you're doing a calculation or you some numbers in your calculator, you know maybe enter the wrong digit in your off by a factor of two or five or even ten or one hundred. But to be off by a factor of ten to the power of one, hundred twenty, you really have to work hard. To make a mistake that big. So that's telling us that there's something fundamental that we're not understanding. So. So that vacuum energy is one of the candidates there's one of the candidates for the observed. accelerated expansion of the universe, right? So. So. I'm wondering Josh. So since we know what the expansion rate ev, he could actually back compute, but that number has to be for this to work. Yeah. That's right. So we know actually now quite precisely. That if what we now call generically dark energy if our if the correct model of dark energy is this energy of empty space vacuum energy again, which is equivalent to the cosmological constant. Then we know rather now just in the last few years quite precisely. How much of that energy there needs to be about. Seventy percent of the total amount of energy in the universe, the other thirty percent is made up of dark matter and of ordinary matter. So we're we we know that number. now, with quite a bit of precision compared to even five ten years ago. Okay. So so seventy percent off the universe has to be what what is called dark and. you find a sentence correctly, the vacuum energy just one of the candidates for it except the other. Candidates in the future. Or now there are other. Theories for what that could be for. So dark energy is the generic name vacuum energy is one possible in Stan. Shih Asian of of dark energy but there are others. And do I understand discussed that one of his properties eighty counter intuitive one of his properties is that it keeps increasing as the universe expands. This is sort of a runaway. expansion process and if that is stroke yes. So if if dark energy is the energy of empty space or vacuum energy. then it means that we're living at this interesting time when what it makes up seventy percent of the universe and other forms of matter makeup percent. But then as you run the universe movie forward. The other kinds of matter in the universe including us. Become more and more dilute. but but vacuum energy has this strange property that as the universe expands, it doesn't become more dilute the the density. Of Dark Energy or vacuum energy doesn't change as the universe expands, which means that as you go forward in time billions of years into the future that seventy percent number. Becomes Ninety, ninety, nine, ninety, nine, point, nine, nine, nine, nine, percent. And eventually, the universe will just be empty. And just dark energy and and it will be expanding exponentially fast much like it did We think during this primordial epic of of inflation. Now, I shouldn't say completely empty we think that actually. So this is a sort of an interesting side bit but. When we hopefully, we'll talk a bit about surveys cosmic survey probably things. Today, we can see of galaxies in our cosmic surveys. and chart them over the sky in the far distant future. you know tens of billions of years from now all those galaxies will have receded away from us due to the accelerating expansion of the universe, and we think we've we will only see a handful of nearby galaxies that happened to be gravitationally bound to our milky. Way Galaxy or to our our neighbor the andromeda galaxy. and. What's interesting about that is that that would then return us to Stein Static Universe, we would. As far as suppose in billions of years in the future, they forgot about dark energy and all that stuff they they start a new looking at at at what they see in the universe and they would, oh, there's a handful of of nearby galaxies and that's it and they would they would not discover the expansion of the universe because there would be none of these other galaxies moving away from us that would still be visible. So. So, future Einstein. Get. Suzy Chretien again put slammed in there, but there is no hobbled. That's right. That's right. Yeah. So I like to say that because because of this, this is why we need to fund Strana me. Now while we can still see all those galaxies because we only have maybe ten billion years to be able to see them before they'll disappear over the horizon. Right. Right let's let's get to it. So we have this one other issue. bitches look at the motivations of stars around the galaxy. became quite explain explain that, right. So we have to make a dog I think to sort of country. Exactly. So that's that's what led to That leads to the notion of what we call dark matter, which is different from dark energy dark energy we think is this. Stuff. which is causing the universe to the to speed up the expansion to speed up. dark matter is something which holds galaxies together. again, this was I. The first inklings of this really came in the nineteen thirties a Swiss astronomer working in California's Fritz wiki noticed that the galaxies within a particular cluster of galaxies called the coma cluster were zipping around very quickly. more quickly than they should have been given what he knew about the the masses of those galaxies in their gravitational attraction then in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Bear Rubin and her collaborators studied as you. As you noted, they studied the the orbits of stars and gas within galaxies. So spiral galaxies like our Milky Way are rotating around their center. and she could measure the speed of rotation of stars as a function of their distance from the center of a galaxy, and they realized that these stars were zipping around these galaxies much more rapidly than they should have been given the mass that they could tell was in the stars in those galaxies and so. So those stars moving. So quickly should have just been zipping out into empty space there was didn't appear that there would be enough mass inside the galaxy to hold them into those orbits. And the the analogy you can use is think of planets in our solar system going around the sun. and has the further out you go. So you go to whatever? Jupiter Saturn Neptune Neptune Uranus. the further out you go the orbital speeds. Of the planets get less and less than that simply because. The the gravity of the sun is. Weaker. The farther out you go, and so the those orbital, the year, the equivalent of a year or the time it takes them to do their orbits is getting longer partly because they're just farther out, they have longer to go. But also because they're just moving more slowly than the inner planets are. And that's what we would have expected When we look at the stars in the outskirts of galaxies that most of the mass is contained in the stars in the inner part of the Galaxy. So the stars way out there circulating. Their orbits take one, hundred, million years or more but still we would have expected them to be moving more slowly than the stars closer to the center of those galaxies, and in fact site what Ruben and her collaborators found is that they were moving roughly at the same speed at very far distances as the inner stars, and therefore, there must be some additional mass which we can't see holding those stars into those orbits and that's that's called dark matter. Suppliers. Tennis. Shoes one is those those things in the in the pitifully are moving too fast and others given the car interior they're moving that fast they will just they won't be able to stay. That's right. Authorizes Right. So there must we posit that there's something additional? In addition to all the stars and gas, we can see in those galaxies reposited there must be some additional matter. We're not seeing it in our telescopes, and so that's why we call it. Dark matter has to be something which doesn't shine. It doesn't interact with light otherwise, we would have detected it through through our telescopes. To call it dark matter it's really transparent right? Because it just doesn't interact with anything light will all frequencies will go through? Is the intervention I don't think it works, but you know it's sort of all the stars of fruiting and some kind of viscous fluid type thing. Not necessarily because again it's it's With what we don't know what dark matter is but our best. Well, first of all, we know what's not. The we we know it's not made of. of ordinary matter the stuff. So you and I are fundamentally. Were made know we have molecules made of Adam's Adam's have your nuclei electrons spinning around the nuclei. Are Made of protons and neutrons protons neutrons are made of quirks. And and we know that the dark matter is not made of of anything like that. It's not made of Cork's it's not made of electrons because we we we know from other measurements, how many quirks or Adams there are in the universe and there just aren't enough. So we so we think. Our best guess is that the dark matter is some new kind of elementary, particle? but that simply doesn't interact very strongly with the particles that we know are made of So these are a sort of standard candidate for dark matter. Is What are called and -tracting massive particles or wimps. That's not the only candidate but that's a popular class of candidates to these particles that could be perhaps as heavy as the Proton perhaps tend to one hundred thousand times heavier or perhaps much lighter than a proton. But unlike the Proton or neutron or quirks, they don't interact with the particles that that we are made of or that are detectors are made of at least not not very strongly. Right, right and so I know that there were some other like primordial black holes ideas around us but but the status call today as we sort of know the distribution of this thing but we don't know what exactly, right? Yeah. We know where the dark matter is. We know how much of it there is in the universe about twenty five percents. We can measure quite accurately. Now it's distribution in galaxies and clusters of galaxies, but you're right. We don't have a clue of what it's made of it could be the Williamson, could be primordial black holes. Wait. We don't even know the mass of these things whether it's tiny tiny microscopic or something you know of the scale of of a planet or or even a star though the our ignorance is vast there. There's a lot of. experiments trying to look for this and so far We haven't found it. And so Be. Deeply. Believe it's about twenty five percent. Off the. Total universe. So we have a seventy twenty flies, flights records. So the five is the stuff were made of. The flight is a stuff daybreak and see the other two components not and be don't know really what they are. And then be that'd be sort of movie back through time zero the display changes, right? So so equals the time equals zero. Doc Energy was close to zero relative to the other components. That's that's that's yeah. In the in most models it was it was negligible at early times. That's right. At Doc Matt was dominating Andy believe as we go forward, dot energy dominate breath so that that one expansion, George bills that necessarily lead to sort of the big rip scenario for the end of the universe. Well, that depends on what the dark energy is. So if the dark energy is This energy of empty space or the vacuum energy that we were talking about that doesn't lead to a big rip. It just leads to this continued Exponential expansion of the universe, but it won't literally rip things apart on the other hand. There are scenarios remodels. Dark energy could have the property that. So I I mentioned before that as the universe expands. Ordinary matter and dark matter become more dilute. But but vacuum energy just stays the same. It doesn't become more dilute as the universe expands but there are these models where in fact. Very bizarre. It's bizarre enough that as the universe expands vacuum energy doesn't get more dilute, but you can even you can come up with models where not only does it not get more dilute? It actually becomes more dense as the universe expands and in that case. The sort of. Sped up expansion of the universe itself speeds up in a way and what that means is you not only have exponential expansion, but you have sort of super exponential expansion to the point where not only will all those billions of galaxies disappear over the horizon. But even though those handful of galaxies that we thought were gravitationally bound to our Milky Way, they will get ripped out of orbit and then the galaxies themselves will get pulled apart and in fact eventually. Stars the Earth atoms themselves will get pulled apart and that's what you're referring to the big rip now again, that's just That's I would say an unconventional model for dark energy, but it's it's still a possible model for for what the dark energy could be. Okay okay. you the midst of a very interesting experiment. Dark Energy Survey. I guess it has been going on for two three years now and The first data has come in you. You. You WanNa talk a bit about the designer by again. So the dark energy survey actually started taking data started serving a in two thousand thirteen and finished last year. And we're now analyzing the data. So this was a survey that we designed in the early two thousands really meant to shortly after the discovery. Of. Cosmic acceleration from the Supernova that we talked about and we realized that time. That, what we really wanted to do you know the Supernova results were very exciting. We knew the universe was the expansion was speeding up, but we really wanted we realized that to make progress you know is it is it the energy of empty space? Is this big rip? Is some other form of dark energy? We realized we really just needed much more data to address those questions, and so we designed this survey to basically make a map of. as many galaxies as we could over a short period of time, and so the dark energy survey is just a large digital camera. With, about five, hundred, seventy, million pixels. So it's about the size of. I. Don't know sort of in wit. It's maybe like a wine barrel but probably twice as long as a wine barrel and get placed it built over course of about a decade it was placed on a telescoping. She lay called the the Blanco Telescope, which has a a mirror that's four meters across. So it's it's a good size telescope and over five years we took snapshots basically images over about one eighth of the sky that you could see from the Earth and that gave us some that. About four hundred, million galaxies give or take. This would be the I would imagine the largest largest Sylvia right given. It's the largest survey. Yes. I would say, yes, it's the largest survey of that tight certainly because we it goes this camera on this telescope. Has a two features one it's it's a very big camera can look at a large swath of the sky at once. but it's also very sensitive and it's on a large telescope. So we can also look very deep there are. Cameras that are on bigger telescopes, but they concede smaller parts of the sky. There are cameras on smaller telescopes. which can see more of the sky, but they can't go as deep, and so we were aiming for the sweet spot of looking covering about an eighth of the sky but going very deep so that we could map out these hundreds of millions of galaxies to try to really do two things. One is to map out this history of cosmic expansion. Much, better than they were able to do in one, thousand, nine, hundred, Ninety, eight so that we could really precisely measure how the expansion rate has changed over time and the other thing we're doing with this data is studying how the history of structure the universe. So. Early on you know we talked about this picture of them cosmic microwave background three, hundred, eight, thousand years after the Big Bang. That tells us that at that early time the universe was. Very smooth they were tiny little ripples in the density or the temperature of the universe, but they were really really tiny but due to gravity. The small amplitude fluctuations became magnified and grew to all the structure we see in the universe today, and so we realized that by making this kind of survey, we could measure the amount of structure in the universe over cosmic time. And because. The growth of structure as well as the expansion rate reflects this cosmic tug of war between dark energy and gravity we wanted to have both of these kinds of measurements to really be able to. Map out that that cosmic tug of war over you know over eight, ten, billion years. So. So you're not really, it's not longitudinal data right and it's too short at times. That's even CNN. So he is this is it the exactly what? What we do is we we have this camera. and we use different filters on this camera. So on a given exposure will put a red filter through it. and then we'll replace the red filter with a blue filter, the green filter or with the very nearly infrared filter, and so each part of the sky. We can map out. We can always see the galaxies but we can. Determine their colors. and. We. Talked about the redshift so galaxy. Further away from us moving faster away from us due to the expanse the universe will look redder. That's the origin of the term redshift than one that's nearby and moving away from us more slowly and so by measuring the colors. Of these hundreds of millions of galaxies. We can tell roughly how far away each of them is and we can kind of. Order, we can make a map that's quasi three dimensional. So not only where they are on sky, but roughly how far away they are, and so we can look at the amount of Lumpini or in the district spatial distribution of those galaxies back in time or through these slices of distance using the colors of the galaxies. Do you expect some sort of a predictable pattern. Yes. You know yeah. So exactly. So that's that's the that's the other thing that's happened. That's been quite remarkable in cosmetology is. you know there was the discovery of cosmic acceleration, but also we talked earlier about the cosmic background. When that was first discovered in the nineteen sixties. As I mentioned, it looked the same in all directions. The temperature was three degrees over there. Three degrees over here I just looked like this uniform. Is What we call Eissa thermal, just single temperature. System. But through starting in the nineteen nineties with the Kobe satellite that a number of ground based experiments most recently the plank satellite wave now mapped out very fine Differences. In temperature and as you mentioned the polarization of the conflict microwave background with extreme precision. And that's enabled us to make very precise model. For for structure in the universe at those very early times three, hundred, thousand years in after the Big Bang. So that tells gives us a real. Precise snapshot of structure that time and then we can say, okay, we know what's happened since then is gravity has amplified those fluctuations. So with the causing microwave background, we can make a prediction. For, what the patterns of galaxies on the sky should look like today statistically and by we can then go out and measure those patterns, compare them to the predictions of the theory. and that's what enables us to measure things like, okay. What's how much dark energy is there in the universe? How much matter is there? And what's what's the history of structure and of of the expansion rate? So it's we have this this comparison of what I would call late universe measurements from the dark energy survey other surveys to the early universe measurements from the cosmic microwave background. First of all the fact that they agree at all is remarkable. Because you know you're extrapolating over billions of years. But with through that comparison, we learn a lot about and we hope to learn much more about how much dark energy there is an what its nature is. It's not really the the spatial specific kind of matching right just aggregate to gate expense right and so these are all whether these are all what you would call statistical. Measurements. There's yes. So for example, one way to think of this is if I have a galaxy at a certain location in space. the theory predicts what's the probability of finding another galaxy within a certain distance of that galaxy. And then what's the problem finding a third galaxy within some other distance and so? The theory makes. Predictions of that type, these probabilities statements about the spatial distribution of galaxies also the spatial distribution more generally of of matter including doctor, and so we we compare. The theory on that on that kind of probabilistic basis. Okay okay. You you have something. So this has been going on from twenty, Kotei. Now you're into the data analysis phase. You you had people just just came out of this month. On it So what sort of the early findings? Yeah. So I think what what this recent paper did was In fact made the kinds of measurements we were just talking about these sort of. Probability measurements of if I have a galaxy here what's the probability finding? Another galaxy say within two million light years of that. Galaxy. And so. It turns out we can make many such measurements of that type. So for example, we can look at say pairs of galaxies in that way, and just look at all pairs of all galaxies over the sky. That's one measurement we do but there are other measurements we can combine that with. For example Suppose I have a galaxy that I don't know a billion light years away. And another galaxy behind it. That's two billion light years away. Well because of the gravity of that Galaxy, the foreground galaxy that's going to distort the shape of that distant galaxy because the light from that Justin Galaxy passes near the foreground galaxy on its way to us it's passing through this curb space time, and that leads to a what we call a sheer or lensing effect of this distant galaxy. which we can measure statistically. So we can. In addition to measuring say what's the probability of? Finding two galaxies a certain distance apart we can also say I have a galaxy that looks like it's sheared by this about how does that correlate with the sheer of this other galaxy nearby on the sky? So that's another probabilistic measurement we can make, and we can also say what's the what's the relationship between the sheer, the the shape of that background galaxy and the position of the foreground galaxies that I can see that's another probabilistic statement and so what we've been doing. and. What this paper does is it basically says, let's look at all the kinds of. Of probability measurements, we can make like that involving what we call two point correlations where you've got one on a galaxy in a galaxy or a galaxy in the shape of another galaxy or the shape of this galaxy in the shape of that galaxy, and it turns out that by. Those sorts of measurements give you complementary information. And now, really a whole industry of making those measurements and then finding ways to properly combine the information from those two point correlation functions together to really constrain cosmology and so what this paper was doing was I think kind of the state of the art for combining I. Think we ended up with six of those different measurements that we combine together, and that gives you in that paper we were looking at constraining. The density of matter in the universe mostly dark matter. And the current bumpiness of the universe. Or the amount of structure we see. and. On cleaning meeting out. Right Mac and the reason that's interesting because. Again, as I said, we're using these measurements. They're sort of get telling us. About the lump penis of the universe today, we can compare that to. The cosmic microwave background measurements, which again, you know the universe much much earlier as much less lumpy but which you can extrapolate to how lumpy universe should look today. And there's a question of whether they agree with each other or not, and there's been quite a bit of. Say Controversy about whether our measurements on the clumsiness and the density of the universe really agree with what we're seeing from the causing microwave background and I think. I would say that the. The answer currently depends on who you talk to some people say there's kind of what we call a tension between those measurements. Other people say, no look they look consistent with each other. And I think the real answer will come when we analyze more of our data, the the paper that came out recently was still using a very small fraction I think less than twenty percent of our data. We have much more data so-called in the can that we're analyzing now. And so are constraints on the lumping in the density will get quite a bit stronger and either it will start to agree better with the cosmic microwave background. or it won't if it doesn't agree then you then you say, okay, the the theoretical construct I was using to compare these two. Was a model that for example, dark energy was this vacuum energy or cosmology constant. So maybe we need if they're really not agreeing maybe that's suggesting. There's some the dark energy something different or could even involve some other perhaps neutrinos if I change the mass of neutrinos, these very light particles and that can affect this this comparison. So I think we're going to learn a lot. in the next. Few months when our next results come out and then in the next couple of years. When our final results come out. Whether this tension is really Significant. Pointing to some what we call new physics or whether everything looks perfectly consistent with the sort of simplest model of dark energy, and of course, there are other surveys coming after ours, which will which will attain even greater precision. So. This is sort of a scenario analysis tour. Now, right you can go in at set certain features. And see whether you're getting better better Yeah. If you like what what we typically do is say, let's assume what we would call vanilla model sort of the model with. The fewest number of knobs dials parameter model parameters. and you always start with simplicity and you see if that works. and. If it does then you say, okay at least this is consistent model doesn't mean it's the right model if it doesn't seem to fit then you say, okay, maybe I don't have the right physical model i. add in more parameters say the massive. Neutrino. The properties of the dark energy that complicates the model Generally that will give you a better agreement with between the model and the data just because you've introduced more freedom into the model and then you have your statistical. You can which you can address say with Beijing methods. Some statistics about all right is is the agreement so much better with between the model and the data that justifies having made a more complicated model and those are. Those are things that you can quantify in the context of CEO of a statistical analysis. So. So so you have a baby picture you have a picture of and then kid is fifteen years old. And you're asking Gabby actually actually predict vantage it grew and what all Grow here. Yes. All right. Okay. So in conclusion. George. If you look forward five years, we have come a long way. It seems like the data is fitting. but there, there are still questions So so what expectations five years ten years from now? From the theoretical perspective and technologies including. So perhaps, we'll get better measurements as well. So what's your on expectation say flight? Yeah that's a good question What we will certainly have more data and better data You are as I said, our survey we finished data taking. We're analyzing for the next couple of years, but there already knew surveys that some starting. Now, there's one called Desi which is a big survey using a very similar telescope, but that's in Arizona. There's a new telescope being built down in Chile called the Vera Rubin Observatory. which will do survey much like ours but it's a much bigger camera much bigger telescope and they're GONNA have ten full years to do the survey whereas we had you know a fraction of five years. So so the data over the next five ten years is just going to become. I mean it's already a lot of data now, but it's just gonNA become staggering. So. The challenge is going to be getting our methods of analyzing the data to keep pace with these technological advances which are just giving us so much more data. As you. As you acquire more data, your treatment of it needs to become much more careful because any little error or uncertainty. Can can give you a wrong answer and when you have very little data those uncertainties. Are can be masked because just your your statistical errors are so much larger, but when you have such large data sets. Our ability to model every little detail becomes much more important than so. That's the concern I have is our are people analyzing data going to be able to keep up with just the amount of data in terms of the tools they have but I'm I'm certainly expecting. you know that our understanding will improve the question to my mind is. As, we get more data or even from our from the dark. Energy. Survey. Right, now I said. Everything is consistent with the simplest picture where dark energy is just back humanity that is Einstein Marshall Constant. My dream would be of course. That we start seeing. where it's not fitting that model and we need to go to some other model of dark. Energy. Maybe. Involving quintessence something else? Maybe even a modification of gravity. that to me would be the most exciting because it would really point us in a completely new direction in fundamental physics. But yeah back to square we'll see So so but you have to, but you have to complete Josh, before all the that's right or the we only have about five fifty. So so That's funding is funding is important. Excellent. Yeah thanks so much for spending time with me. Josh This has been great and. Good, luck with. Your questions, it was an interesting discussion. Thank you. bye-bye.

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[089] Carolina Panthers All or Nothing: Initial Thoughts

Buccaneers Observer

49:18 min | 2 years ago

[089] Carolina Panthers All or Nothing: Initial Thoughts

"Every year in the N._F._l.. It's a new team as far as goals go. We have one putting the fuck around on a finger welcome to the Buccaneers Observer podcasts asses Rob Phillips Chances Molly Bay. They is July twenty first two thousand nineteen forty nine days to get off and the rookie is reported today. You heard anything about now. I just saw pictures of them like walking I think today they're just getting measured and weighed in on the same with the veterans when they come in on the twenty fifth yeah Thursday Twenty Six. We'll probably the first full day of practice fact check and follow up got one follow up. We've talked about the C._B._A.. The last one that was signed and how much the floor is for teams. What's the minimum they can pay as far as salary cap is concerned? We know what to maximum is one eight hundred eighty the eight million Samak's you could play players but there's also a minimum and that's eighty nine percent of the salary cap so that comes out to Mandalay hold on let me assure math so let me see one hundred eighty eight million two hundred thousand is the salary can't maximum eighty nine percent of that carry the one zero Moose desma points around two hundred sixty seven million nine hundred sixty eight million somewhere around there. That's the minimum teams can spend now but there's a catch you. You don't get docked if you'd spend less than that. It's actually over a four year period. The first period was from two thousand thirteen to two thousand sixteen second period is from two thousand seventeen to twenty twenty so as long as you maintain eighty nine percent average edge over that four year period you're fine so you can go down way below so I'm here and then the next year make up for awry and the funny thing of it is is that the penalty is just that you have to fork over the difference to the N._F._l.. Players Association so it's really yeah no big deal. It gets spent no matter what you're going to spend that money no matter what you found that interesting wonder what they're GonNa do with twenty twenty if we're going to change that UPA Labor was less than end to end buckles talk about it and he thinks that this C._B._A.. Negotiation Association and it's GonNa get ugly though always do yeah as far as I know no team has ever been fine for not spending enough yeah. I've never heard of that. I think it must be really hard to do spend less than not spend that money you get backlash from fans fans. Keep up with it. I mean look at our families. They were mad when he morris was coach because the Glazers we're spending any money and now everyone's pissed off that day sunlight squandered all the salary cap money can't never be satisfied. The only way to be satisfied on is if they're winning the super bowl every year. I don't know well but you figured anyone in the Patriots Fan Base Bitch about them. You know they do all the time. Somebody contingent a small contingent that once check fire and Tom Brady they want him gone a lot of people on twitter. They'll re tweet bad takes and most of them are that Mike Evans is not a great receiver idiots on twitter book and your fans are. I don't know just random comments and they're like he's good but not great. We'll wait sound as passengers shadow account he he doesn't have these big splashy highlight plays where he catches the ball and then dukes out fifteen people around for twenty Eh. Do you think that he's the type of receiver you have to see on film to be able to appreciate no not really I think you just have to watching during the game and just how consistent he is with catching the damn ball and traffic I mean he's he's a first down machine yeah. If it's third and seventy five you thought to Mike Evans most likely he's going to catch the ball. Could you firsthand and that costs that he has the potential to be one of the best buccaneers of all time and he said but for Mike it being on losing teams all the time he'd probably get some more credit <hes> if he keeps his up he'll hall of Famer. If he just keeps up with the pace he's going now. I think he's going to increase a little bit. Yeah I think so too I think this offense will be banner. It was interesting to see if they put him in the slot as a slot receiver it would make sense to me put pregnant exclusively Jordan retiring occasionally because you figure you're gonNA have a nickel back up on him or for a linebacker on call okay. You wouldn't have your your top cornerback yeah. That's what I want to ask. You is the stun corners are usually on the outside of your idea. He's to catching the ball and traffic so he goes up so we'll see the be interesting. I'll get out but yeah you put permit on outside. Put Godwin God one on the other side speedy as I I was just not against lot rec- Ronald Scott Miller. I could see as being a good slot receiver but I think it would be just so interesting to put. It's just like he did with Fitzgerald in Arizona. Bruce Arians put his best receiver in the Slot <hes> Don. They just marched down the field anytime they wanted to <hes> what was the reason for him to do that with Larry to shake it up. Was it Larry's age. You're learning to have the speeds to have Mike is really that fast not speeding. He can get a burst but he's not. That's not his niche. I guess he's more of a physical receiver speaking of physical receivers Yep boy Julio Jones. You heard that he wants a new contract yeah. He wants a new contract Lord not hold now he showed up. I can't born she'd hold out. You can do it without whole now. There's this new this new trend of players hold now and it's not necessarily what you have to do to get any contract you look at Pittsburgh's running back yeah maybe on bell he ended up not playing all season and shift the jets and not get near as much money as he wanted to hold out yes so he held out outwith the steelers forfeit his whole salary which ran fourteen million dollars thirteen million or something like that yeah so he lost all that they were going to give him fifty million a year. They got up to that point and he didn't want that so he goes to the jets and the ends up signing a four year fifty two point five million dollars contract including eight million dollar signing bonus twenty seven million guaranteed in average annual salary of thirteen point one million so he has lost all the way around yeah. I think that's that's how you have to do it. Organisation to the jets rain I mean stay enough the steelers you're at least a contender in your division. He's not GonNa know what that's like for a while. If ever again Julio John's on the other hand plays plays it smart still shows up and I think Arthur blank made a statement that they're going to reward him for it it just it just shows good faith. I think between him and Matt Ryan. That's like half their salary cap birther. I think so would you say didn't you say he meant rams like making like thirty million this year. Breezes wouldn't surprise me of Matloha's up there too though he's only making fifteen his cap hit is fifteen forty four million what yearly cash he got a forty six and a half million dollar signing bonus hundred million guaranteed in an average annual sally of thirty million dollars. That's uses he think won't be looking at something similar for Janus Ass. Probably it's going to be it's going to be twenty million a year. LOW IRON CAPS situation next year is going to be a nightmare right now. Julio Jones has a five year contract that he signed in two thousand fifteen seventy one million dollars including a twelve million dollar. Assigning Bodas forty-seven to them guaranteed annual average salary of fourteen point two five million so he's on the last year of his contract or twenty twenty is the last year and that's what typically happens right is that as they get towards center under the contract their money gets smaller and that's why oftentimes towards the end of their salary. They'll do this and say I want a new contract. You can't really fault him because this year he's only making what nine point six million thirteen point four six thirteen. That's the with his signing bonus with two point four million per year added at you also had a restructure to which gave him one point four million this year. They took it from two thousand seventeen something of that nature. I don't know being a slot damn money. There's a lot of money and he's more. I need some of that. Who Jones money speaking of contracts devon white got his finally? Nobody knows how much it is now. They haven't released it yet. I think it just happened yesterday or today can only be in a certain amount. There's a minimum maximum. They can pay these guys. I mean he was top top five graphics. What was what was he? He was fine. There is number five okay yeah so so that's all structured. I mean it's not a whole lot of leeway with that but it's four years guaranteed money every year in the fifth year option. We just don't know how much guaranteed money is or anything no details maybe by next time castle have something and when we say we we you mean all of books world exactly Rogers Disney. I WanNa talk about it a we. We've insider information. I saw a video posted on twitter from Chuck Smith. He posted a short video showing Noah Spence training at his facility facility now that really really I was really happy about that. I'm I'm big on. Noah Spence be listened pot cashing in big advocate for him for a while why he hasn't played. I would really like to know the only information we've gotten there's been rumors that hill and Butler didn't get along and that there were some personal issues yes but we don't know anything itself as very big and was such a high draft pick to just kind of Peter out not from his play. It wasn't as play play was is fine. I mean he got hurt but his on through an injury to and then it's interesting. That's the second player I've heard had issues with buckner. McCoy had issues with them to remember they got into at training camp and remember them on the sidelines on each other and like the media totally ignored it yeah I if that's why didn't keep buckner connection before they head coach together. I was sitting there trying to lip read what they were saying to each other. They were like getting up in each other's face to be separated Clint McDonald gone to help off the bench and had to get between them when everything and not a word about it from the media. If there wasn't anything said it was like is it happens yeah. This wasn't last year. It was two years thus year to seventeen so anyhow Chuck Smith he trains the likes of Miller Aaron. Donald took Smith is like the elite pass rushing trainer. You just had to say to names and I'm on-board. Did you recognize organized. Chuck Smith's name Yeah. He used to play for Gosh. I WANNA say Atlanta. He was a defensive end. Let me look this up so I don't have to do a fact check so yeah doing the search we find out that Chuck Smith played for the Atlanta Falcons. He drafted in the one thousand nine hundred N._F._l.. Draft and he played with them until nineteen ninety nine. He had a date half sacks twenty tackles three interceptions in a defensive touchdown. He also went to their first super bowl in nineteen ninety eight so which they lost it. We got some. We got some good stuff coming up at about that here. In a minute our division rivals losing super bowls so Chuck Smith is it's really good to see Noah Spence training with Chuck Smith my whole point I think I think no expense has just come out of nowhere this year into surprise a lot of people I have south because I was watching him. Oh he's the same size as Shaquille Bennett Bear Shaquille Parrot and I think I think it might be massive. I came here was one of our defensive pence. Oh yeah he's he's perfect for the system. You know he's a hybrid. He's outside linebacker size and defense van cise but when I watched it won't take when he played for the first year. I was just like wow this guy could be a lead. I mean he's got some moves. He's fast and he wasn't that good on the run on. Stop the run but then he got better he started working. He actually even said I gotTa work on my runs not and he got better as your lawn so I I think the guy can be elite elite speaking elite pro football focus though said that vitas should would have a breakout year this year and that in the last six games of the season he was the best defensive tackle or some crap like wow yeah and that goes really high on him to what he said. He is an unknown but he's got that potential beam Ralegan. You can say that every year about everybody if things fall into place is going to be an elite lyman force for a long time to come so yeah we're GONNA lose the Super Bowl for watching the all or nothing with the Carolina Panthers we got through the first three episodes Miami laughing so hard she they were they were up came out so hard in this show I mean it is really the Cam Newton show it is dumped. It would say something great about molly would be like well. He can't can't win. The Super Bowl candy was just dying. You said some one time you just popped it out about spent my beer out my nose but that show I'm very disappointed in. I don't know if it's because we just thank the panthers so we wanted to dislike the show. Yeah we talked about this after I really don't know if it's confirmation bias or I don't know what kind of bias that would be if you would never seen any shows. You didn't know anything about the Carolina Panthers. You didn't watch all or nothing previously yeah all the good stuff the one with the cardinals you might would like this one and go hey. This is pretty neat but other. It's crap well for me. It just seems really insincere. Everybody seems phony everybody. Nobody seems phony and like they're putting on an act and easy and hard knocks to that kind of do something similar yes but with hard knocks these guys the H._B._O.. Cameras are like all around them all the time but with the all or nothing N._F._l.. Films they've got cameras whereas in the offices and set up throughout the facilities in they've got cameras N._F._l.. Film cameras are all the way around these guys so they don't really know they're being on what they do. With hard knocks hard anoxia special crew that comes in and follow these guys around all or nothing isn't like these guys probably didn't know they were going to be on all or nothing until we found out yeah. I guess that's my question like do they know ahead of time that they're going to be on there because you act very differently when you know that you're being observed especially if cameras are there so I don't know if they're putting on the act and I don't really recall in the cardinals. All are now seeing whether they were doing all these speech. I mean they do a lot of speeches speeches ages but I didn't find that as grading as I entered I I don't know I assume these guys don't know that they're going to be on because it would have leaked Yeah League somehow somewhere someway right like someone when he does that make the team and then yeah and they kept it. You know nobody knew about it until two months ago on boom. Heo nothing from two thousand eight season is going to be Carolina Panthers. Everybody's like what everybody thought was going to be this season coming up yeah little. Do they know it was last season. Unfortunately we haven't got to the point where their team implodes yet yeah waiting for kind of unsettling. We're like other winning but they just signed a read so I don't know is that going to be what Ariza Rosalie agreed remember safety. He was involved with the whole kanaelay thing going to be something that tears team what what will happen to them last year man because ages blew up and I can't wait to find out all right. Let's start with upset one. That's. Is One where Greg all saying gets hurt. Everyone talks about how he is like such a integral part of the team in a him and Cam Newton have good chemistry. It didn't appear to us like anyone even liked him room. That's how I felt that awkward did that just says weird stuff and everyone kind of looks around like he's serious like he tries too hard to get people to like him or something. He keeps saying things to the younger guys about Oh. You're you'll mature one day or your mature and whatever and you can see him like rolling their eyes God yeah he did. He did not seem to have a good character personality which it's to me. There's really nobody on the team that has any any endearing personality or character very strange then again like you said it might be confirmation by because we don't like we do not like the Panthers Specially Cam Newton Kansas. They episode a tale. I don't remember happened episode two. We recorded US watching those and I tried to get the audio off my phone and put it on the computer so I could edit it so we can play it but I couldn't do it. Thanks we're missing out kind of in a time crunch. It wasn't able to do it. Maybe next we'll do combine them altogether because it was so funny stuff we were just cracking up and how silly everything was so serious. I can't see all the speeches now. We'll watch a clue with PAT McAfee. Eh McAfee get mad at you. I don't know how I can't remember now McAfee. We'll go with the now while paranoid. He's never gonNA listen anyway. who was the kicker her for the colts owner punter is he gonNA be mad about that has been a terry was the kicker in any case he has podcast now and he makes appearances and he's funny yeah? He did an interview interview where people were like. Ask them about the speeches like what happens during halftime and he said now does speeches it's not it's not like they go like all right. Boys this the fight ear live. Let's go out there. Kicking my ass legacy that doesn't happen so when they go on these shows and they give speeches all the time you're like is because they know there's a camera point and Adam. I guess what do these guys isn't there. I don't know I think that's the question I think we we would perceive it differently if we knew one way or the other well I know that N._F._l.. Films goes into the locker rooms after games and they tried to get the coaches to give speeches for all that and give out the handball him the game ball and you could tell it's always said up because the cameras are right there the coaches stain and right in front of the camera the whole team's not there yeah I mean because the whole team is fifty three. No fifty three. You're more guys is in is usually twenty. Maybe a good day standing around most of it is front office personnel and assistant coaches all standing around and the the coach always stands towards the camera and I gotTa figure the camera is there and it's like a semicircle around the coach but the coach is talking facing the camera so he's not facing everybody else. It's all set up. It's all it's all a bunch of malarkey because everybody thinks that's the way it's supposed to be because Hollywood. Hollywood is and that's what coaches do right it coach. Don't do that mess maybe every now and then they will have to come in give some raw speech or they needed to kick in the butt but it's not like they do it every halftime after every game and every practice just ridiculous but that's not the show makes it appear because they're trying to be like Hollywood yeah and did there was very little football failure football. It's all this too silly stuff and it's really still tell you this. Cam Newton is be Moore's dresser on the planet guy looks like he bathes in glue and then rolls around in a thrift shop he come walk it out one time and he had a foxtail hanging out. It's like keychain on his book bag back. At first. We thought Oh my gosh. He's a furry he is he had a foxtail hanging out the back. It was genuis riding a motorbike through the city night. It wasn't a motorbike. It was like an old electric by two weird weird weird weird no helmet at May. He had no like reflective clothing. I don't even know nothing had a headlight but ridiculous I mean it was pure. It was purely for show his whole outfit is for show usually but you know they have the cameras setup all down the street and was like twenty different Angles Hill riding this even had a car some type of vehicle in front of him that was riding with a camera on it to capture that so yet these guys had to have known they were being failed for something. I I wonder if N._F._l.. Films does this too much different teams and they don't let you know which team they're going to pick the footage for for the all or nothing and I think that N._F._l.. Films in general is all over the place all the time but they're used to having a camera interface to be like okay we want you to ride this goofy looking old steam pump and electric bicycle it really seemed on you down the street of Charlotte and we're going to be in a car and a camera in front of you a catch video and then we're going to have cameras setup all down the streets and maybe they don't say when it's four. Maybe they think it's marketing material or something yeah 'cause. They're always having to do exactly. I don't know that they actually showed did that. In the dollar nothing doing some marketing material get in front of cameras taking pictures and stuff. who was it was said? I'm really nervous read. It was read right now. It was that guy from England all that's why the London Guy Yeah Obu Joey Groggy Gog bobby their defensive end to play soccer apparently while they showed him going back to London because he came from London football team like a London American football team. That's what they call right right American football anyway he goes back and has a reunion with his team ever. They're just friends his team ruling yeah he was bigger than all of them so if the one on the white shirt yeah obviously offense offensive lineman in kind of look at them and tell which they seek out these story lines they did. I don't know man it's just it just feels so force. I would like to see like leuke cly. They did touch on the fact a little. I bet you would like to see more of that like I don't want to see the show man right football player Keith Ellison because he's obviously of film buff them talk to him about how he watches film. What's he look for? Forego `about stuff like that football stuff yeah. I WANNA see football stuff at the football program. I'm a football guy. I want to see football stuff. I don't care about your silly outfits. Your foxtail Keychain your electric motorbikes. Whether you're from London you talk funny or if you want to kneel. I don't care yeah football's care about. I did gather from keithly. I had always heard that he's a film buff but I didn't realize that what he's doing. During the game is he sniffs out plays that he's seen on film and that's how what makes them so good is that he knows what you're going to do because he studied you so much. I think that's going to work hard advantage when we play them and we too because there's going to be one game on us. As far as I'm concerned definitely and hopefully we'll throw it enough tricky stuff that they won't be able to just be able to immediately identify the play just by looking at the formation who wasn't he was talking about and he said Oh he was talking about trubisky said we only have four games a film on Hill yeah so it was like it's going to be kind of hard to figure him out a little bit so that was that was all up on that. I was like yeah this is good. This is good stuff here but. That was like five minutes yeah. They didn't touch on him very much so again. He's not a presence on the camera he's do. He's not now very serious. He doesn't have the he's not a showman showman yeah which like Kinda. I don't care turbot mess. They want everybody to be Joe Nemeth. Oh thank yeah and then they had they brought in Eric Reed and the new owner he appears to want to use Eric Reid's storyline as marketing. I think he's like let him do whatever he wants. While it will connect them with places in the community that he could do outreach with or whatever he wants to do for his political agenda we support that this is the guy that wants to move the panthers right to South Carolina. I think so yeah apparently he's moving or did move the headquarters to South Carolina where they're going to have a practice that I don't know anyhow. It seems like he's wanting to get out of North Carolina and moved the team to south. Carolina Charlotte. Isn't that far from the South South Carolina Line. It's the Carolina Panthers. They want to appeal more to South Carolina. They've already got the foods in North Carolina supporting it team trying to get some more suckers for that. Kim knew just it's ridiculous. Nicholas is ridiculous. I don't know if it's kind of the spirit of the city like you get to these cities that are Kinda hipster and that's what he reminds me. Yeah sure just trust so Dang Hall Yeah and to me again. There's no chemistry. No one really seemed to care about football besides keithly and again. Maybe it's just that they didn't show a whole lot of football and that was the problem we did see one instance where cameras talking about football on the sideline so now is an interesting side of him. I might have more respect for him. Actually says good stuff to write. What did he say man Dan something about what kind of coverage they're run in so then we could just keep running down their throat something like that I think he was talking to the tight end the too tight end that was in place of Olsen Olsen and he was telling him to you? Watch the blacker run an eye or something like I can't remember but it was. I was choking by that point. I don't remember what they were specifically talking about but it went good football and that kind of some good field general stuff here like okay. Maybe I could respect more football player. They showed more that shit and not him dressing like an idiot or going to get his haircut like. I don't care about that stuff. That's what I started off with him and speaking which Sh- we'll get into that here in a minute remind me about the cigar smoke and stuff but once I got did like about the show is that I learned that Bat McCaffrey is Ed McCaffrey Son Christian McCaffrey Cristobal does say yeah. I'm taking half McAfee McAfee patent some Christian McCaffrey is epic every saw I did not know that but if you if you would have put a gun to my head and say who does God play like I might would've said Ed McCaffrey because they look the same little short little guys that just was Ed short like Christian because the clip that they showed in the show he looked bigger than Christian. I'm like maybe Christian became a running back because he just didn't have the size. Is it a dad Dan. Oh six foot five inches. He looked lanky. He's a tough guy big guy ever seen before the Denver Broncos but yeah he took it to the Super Bowl twice I think along with a John Elway mcaffrey is the only one on that offense that I'm afraid of that. I don't WanNa play unlike Manny's GonNa Torch US every game. It's really hard to stop him. There's a stop at him. It's just limit the amount the damage he's GonNa do yeah. He's one of those players that he he's always going to get sixty yards minimum and a touchdown touchdown. Yeah we were actually talking about doing that. Sitting sitting in figuring out what's the minimum leak and hold McCaffrey floor four what's his floor and let's aim for that because he ain't GonNa Stop Inca shutting down now and their offense is good for that they have those tricky read option plays they do a lot of end arounds or they pitch it into the running backs lot of lot of weird stuff yeah. It makes it fun though they're interesting but with Cam it's easy to neutralize him yeah. He's a really one dimensional right. We're back if he wasn't in the system he wouldn't be crap. I mean he's a big guys hard to get down. That's really his bread butter yeah but if you keep him in the pocket force them to throw then you're GonNa win that all day long and that's what we did to the second game last year when we just stopped on gympie shoulders now granted he was was injured but they knew enough to exploit the injury that way and I'm not confident that had he not been injured. It would have been much different now the way he beat you with his legs right. He's like Ben Rothlisberger the athletic big strong hard to take down but he's got to move like Dan. What does run you over right yeah but Benaud drag you a little bit exactly can't my juke and and Ron Rivera says credit has fashioned a system around that type of play you could say it's no return or whatever I don't care but now I mean it pretty Dana nor looking in the box because nor sets during the Games in the box and there's really young guy beside him like looks like a teenager so young or early twenties? That's third offensive coordinator. It was defensive coordinator. You sell the coordinator. They're just taking play calling from him and he's only responsible. I think for the front seven vote. They got rid of their defensive coordinator. Last year. They fired their defensive line. Coach and I think a secondary coach yeah where you see all that we'll see hey. This is what we've only gone through the first three episodes. It's kind of boring because they're winning and we're all mad that we don't care about that. We want to see him explode. I'm excited the CR games against that well not the first one but the second although the first one was bad stopped hoped and we're going to have to listen to them talk and shit and in the epithet we might just skip them and speaking to talk Joe Books for the article the other day this goes back to the cigar smoking stuff on <hes> buccaneers had sent Bo Allen out with Casey Phillips and he went out to one of the local cigar places and learn how to Roll Cigar and Joe Butts Fan rights article about buccaneers promoting tobacco smoking and he just Kinda go off on the buccaneers organization and he said they close it with Joe hate seeing the bucks too often looking like the clown show of the N._F._l.. And this video certainly fuels that image they I took this little promo piece way too seriously. They're saying well you know their training facility is the advent health and here they have their players out rolling cigars. You know it's like what you're playing football. Dude you know these guys are GonNa get hurt on the field. Should they not have health sponsor no because of the hat I mean it's just ridiculous. It's Van I'd like Joe Buxton. I think they're probably the hardest working guys in what I like about them. <hes> is that they they do have the Fan perspective for me for open with their families but they're on the negative in of the fan base when you have a contingent of fans are very negative and. They attract those people and I think kind of poke those people to instigate a lot but they do come out with a lot of interesting stuff that from a fan perspective I find interesting but like is not something that you're GonNa see the mainstream reporters report on these guys I mean they put out ten articles a day. Probably if you want to call them articles basically blurbs but they buster but they're really deep into this stuff but you gotta figure they've been. They started as website. I think it was two thousand nine. That was the beginning of our downslide so they've just ever since they've done this site ever since they'd been joked bucks fan dot com they've had nothing good to write about. This has been crap team at crab team at crap team few teams of hope sprinkled in here and there I I give I give them a break a lot of times I do. I don't like how negative do understand that. Negatively gives me more views and they're doing this for a living so they're trying to get viewers too. I think that they sincerely feel that way to do to. In fact I was listening to Ira Calvin podcast and it was all three of them lease Steve and IRA and they were giving their predictions for the season and Steve said nine and seven which is lower than what we sat are floor prediction was ten and six but they gave Steve a hard time Lee and I remember giving him a hard time about nine and seven capital happen all of them now is not the time to be optimistic batch of team. He just go find another sport to follow. I mean if you can't be optimistic about your team. During offseason in the preseason then why even follow the sport you gotTa have some periods of hope we know I mean because if the season starts out and then it just all goes to hell you've got the off-season to look forward to but these guys don't even look forward to that negative all the time Steve Not too bad yeah. You know I I can almost tell who who writes which are I can tell I think this was definitely written. Ri Yes but come and guy really but this this article is probably one of their most highly viewed articles of offseason guarantee. You just generated controversy. Its title of of a but I'm just like come on guys. You're you're like spearhead of the FAN base why you're Kinda grasping at straws if that's what makes you upset you're just looking for something to be mad about and don't refer to our organization the buccaneers as a bunch of clowns yeah. That's what bothers me yeah like why. Let's help the team win. That's what our job is. Here's is fans. Help Him Win negatively angle and do it yeah but bureau report. They did a report in there since we were talking about Joe Buxton they did an article on David Kenny the other day on the fan five and then it's funny because we were just talking talking about him. How he's kind of fallen off one saying anything? The media just stopped talking about him. We haven't heard anything about him but then they go and they do. This wasn't a whole lot new there. They had a lot of quotes and stuff from that we talked talked about on the podcast and we talked about David Kenny but towards in there they did have some new stuff where he was talking about. <hes> he's having a difficult time dealing with coverage because he's he's a pass rush specialist in this defense. He's GonNa have to fall back at coverage. He's an outside Zayn linebacker defensive news yes so they'll probably do that with NASA to then spence NASA okay so he's just like you know. Coverage is really got me stop but he's like I'll get through it all work through it. I have to boy. I'd like to know Ma'am little baby off so they caught him baby wolf. Mathis caught him that maybe wolf I like that. He's a pass rush rush specialists. That's hard to say we can't specialist specialist for specialist even less bruising but everyone's been bitching about the pass rush. We don't have a pass rush here we got we got a specialist guys. It's fixed the fantasy football over here. That's right we got the numbers plugged them in Dorgan but we know our secondary's fixed booth told us okay but if he is not grading coverage Bruce Arians is kind of all all about using people to their strength and not asking them to do things that they can't do so maybe are they just trying him there to see what its capacity is and that might cause he's kind on the bubble that might determine whether he makes the eighteen if he shows improvement in that aspect <hes> lots of been made here recently a lot of it is because offseason but about our uniforms we can we can change our uniforms the time supposedly according to the N._F._l.. Rules we can't but I heard the other day. Ah maybe there's a contract with Nike. That's not allowing us to change our rules uniforms. It's not the same as N._F._l.. Rules Frank if arose you can change every four years. I think anyhow we can change our uniforms ars. Everybody's clamoring for us to change our uniforms one. I've said this many times on the podcast. I love the helmet loved the new logo of loved the word Mark Love Him. Love Him love him. I mean to me it's it's beautiful. It's it's a piece of art. It looks fierce. It looks mean and it's good football uniforms themselves in kind of like I'm on the fence with them and their colors and the design and all that but the numbers have gotta go gotta go. This is come from somebody watching film. I can't read Dan numbers. It is so aggravating <hes> you can't see the ones that Chopin's at all doesn't even make sense. Why would you even have numbers there 'cause the shoulder pads are really tiny will win the rain or Snow Sleeves on all twenty two when you're looking at the coaches film from end zones guys is are lined up there been overall? You can see there right so the numbers really help identify yeah but what I'm saying is that the shoulder pads so small of an area. You couldn't even see it like that far away. I can see it on like to the bears and that a lot of teams dow you could see the numbers really good yeah the buccaneers no not at all but I was looking at some man caves buccaneer man caves there was like a thread going on on twitter and people were posed one guy a really nice setup but he had all of his Jersey's he had game worn jerseys. The Guy Obviously spent a lot of money on his his man cave he had all his game worn jerseys. We probably have fifteen encased in glass framed behind his couch ouch and he took a picture with the lights on. He took a picture of the lights off in the numbers word like glow in the dark. It was really cool. You know when he when he took the picture of the flash all the numbers just popped all that's cool and then the the large numbers didn't even look bad. They didn't look like a car alarm clock numbers because you could actually see the different angles of the numbers because alarm clock numbers are very boxy. Yeah our numbers aren't really boxing. We got angles on some of the lines that and you really see it then. I was like Oh that looks bring we need but now get rid of the numbers. So what you're saying is that they designed these jerseys dark. I like the reflective stuff I do but here's my question I bring that up because ever since we've had those Jersey uniform change we've sucked when we changed changed in ninety seven whenever it was two from the cream cycle to the red boom we went to the super bowl and we were fierce monsters team and we were good during the GRUDEN era to win the playoffs in winning records all that good stuff we change these these uniforms and we suck mock question is how much do you think uniforms contribute to outcomes of games okay when exactly that we change them like in twenty fourteen right twenty thirteen we change them twice <music>. We changed them in. I WANNA say two thousand eight and then we changed them again in two thousand fourteen to Veselin limit. Let me look that up and make sure we're correct. I would change from the pewter too. I mean the cream cycles to the pewter in nineteen. ninety-seven and then in two thousand twelve they changed aspects of the jerseys and some of the callers as well. They used a black at more black accent. <hes> logo was placed right underneath the V neck of each player's Jersey Pewter became the main color on the teams Helena pants whereas before it was white pants and stuff and then in two thousand fourteen when they made a big switch to this whole redesign stuff. I interested interested to see what our win loss was like during these periods which look into it will. I'm a believer in that you know football football game of physical prowess. You've got to be fast. You've got to be strong yet to be tough. You want to reflect that in your presentation presentation. It's like when when more years used to go to war they they WANNA wear fierce outfits to basically put that little bit of fear in your opponent you Kinda WanNa do that with I think that it does contribute to how you your mindset Thaddeus. If you go out in a two pink is going to decrease your mental toughness and I think that there is a little bit of a contribution to guys perception of themselves when they go out there and they're thinking these therefore look ridiculous. Everyone elite hates them. We look silly and it's a visual thing too because your opponent when you play them I mean that makes an impact the colors and how they you know how it affects your vision genres yeah all this stuff. This is a game of inches. We're talking inches here every little thing counts and if you give guys more confidence just by having the moyer soup Kulik and stuff do that. I might make the difference between winning a game or two season then. I think we should change it. I think you you go out before the Games guys are always talking to each other from both sides. They know each other went to college and all that stuff. You brought up quite a bit what you've force your way tonight. Or what do you think about the uniform man you see that article that was written where Y'all to last place. Uniforms can't stand these things. I think we look so you know whatever just those little things matter. They add up to change them. Uniforms couldn't hurt. That's my thought too yeah I agree. I think even just just a little tweaking a little redesign alike the red the red new read yeah. I don't like the G it's it looks to geometric. It looks like arena football yeah or would you say Canadian Football A._M.. No no I mean I can live with that with them. But the numbers kind of silly logo loved the logo loves the Word Mark Love it absolutely love. Did you see Jimmy Winston some pictures of him in Tallahassee the working out on the campus there he looks lamb or let me show you this picture of this. Wow He is cut up why there's muscles popping out of his legs there was a muscle there looking crazy easy yeah he's he's he's bulked up and slimmed down. I mean he looks pretty intense forearm. What is that yeah? He's he looks. He looks a lot because he's always looked kind of doughy to me. Just like Josh Freeman Dan Marino cocaine yeah just kind of soft looking but those pictures. I'm kind of impressed I guess he has been he's gained some weight and it looks like it's been all muscle and he's lost fat. Yeah good stuff Vince Jackson. We don't hear a whole lot about him anymore but he's still active in the community in Tampa you know he's got his casks social bar down there restaurant. I think he does some real estate. He is still contributing to charities down there. He's having his a six annual the military mom's baby shower that was this weekend he just had it. He's donating ninety thousand dollars baby products to forty expecting or new MOMS in the area. Now that's nice. That's really cool. That's cool especially because a lot of these people on there from other areas the military yeah a lot of military and if you have to move you're not close to your family and you might be expecting and you can't have a baby shower because your family's somewhere else there was some sad news out today. Lights Horse Daisy Mae passed away so say I now like the day before training camp. He said he'd spilling ten hours crying. He loved that horse. Tell he'd only had her a year. <hes> apparently it was she got overheated thought other guys and as you know I don't really know the circumstances behind that but it was just really sad for him right before training camp. He signed his contract act a little bit of good news. Mike Evans has set up a scholarship at Texas A._M.. That's his Alma Mater really sad about days. I now you saw a lot of Devon's personality kind of threw. Her are involving her because he he seemed to like really that was something we knew about him and he had a lot of pride in her and it was one of his interest. You know it was sad definitely like you said Ed gave us an insight into his character. Yeah and horses live a long time. He was probably expecting to have that horse for years or so yeah so we're GONNA try to get the arrest of that all or nothing done. Maybe before the next podcast not sure her. How many episodes is her? Three was like hard to get to get through. Thank God for Beer I know but when when they implode that's GonNa win is GonNa Start hopefully they don't wait until like the last two episodes the show that yeah that'll irritate. It'll be all about how great they are for ten episodes and they don't they screwed up in season so something I just thought of in the Bruce Arians all or nothing all they talked about the super bowl that was kind of the mantra of the team. He's already talking about winning. They they kind of touched on winning and that's like it. They don't talk about Super Bowl. I mean they mentioned it. A couple times and I got in a couple of quips about high can't win one uh-huh bye-bye it in general it's not like they had that goal like it seemed Bruce Arians team in twenty fifteen all or nothing had which is the intro to our podcast insurance area in N._F._l.. Oh it's a new team. Longueuil put the PUCK and ring on it ring on it Riana solver beyond saying okay excuse as we estimate that the interest or the ultra house copyright thing. I'm not singing now you were you already know our the crew crewmembers Buchan ears even pass homers season ticket holders got their boxes this past week and they had the Bruce Arians tangles in Rome show also awesome. If anybody's GonNa want to get rid of hit us up we wanted to Kangol molly really really wanted to Kangol down looking. I've been going to the buccaneer shop every day to find one at five refresh yeah so yeah season ticket holders that are lucky enough to get the two candles. I land to see pictures onto anybody from man. Put Your pictures guys now wearing proud. You know what a lot of tangles are kind of hard to pull off so only certain people can wear tangles. Put them up there any who cares it's do it. I may have person so. I'm confident that I can pull one off. It's because I'm a big forehead five head all right so that's going to wrapping up for us. 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[085] Drinking and Rambling

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38:51 min | 2 years ago

[085] Drinking and Rambling

"Every year any nfl it's a new team as far as goals go we have one foot in the fucking ring on her finger welcome to the buccaneers observer podcasts ralph philip says is molly day today's july second two thousand nineteen sixty eight they used a kickoff it's crawling buying it seemed like it getting closer and closer but now it's like i'm going around to a halt and i mean there's like three weeks until training camp now there's that there's that in in hard knocks and then oh be all or nothing with the carolina panthers comes on a couple of weeks yeah i think eighteen okay so should now the last season right yes the two thousand eighteen season which sucks i wish i would have been this season so we could see i dunno i like watching a train wreck that's true too especially when it's the kittens rate all right that's a fact check some follow ups fact check logan mankins did not play with josh freeman as molly said making came to tampa in two thousand fourteen freeman left at the beginning of the two thousand and thirteen season boomer he was good i'd much making the tough guy good night man so mike glennon josh mccown he pointed to so i wonder how was that nail the dude on top of josh freeman i want to go back and look guys too much more true well never now i guess it's a mystery we could just make crap you're now probably looking at you follow up slash fact check this is a is a double double whammy here the panthers versus buccaneers game in two thousand eighteen we talked about where molly and i had actually made a bet on that i forgot until it we'd we'd be we bet dinner on it you got your dinner now i don't believe yeah yeah you got hammered pony up molly is huge aaron only eleven holly is huge in the dinners at all her bats dinner i have said it was a thursday night game but i was incorrect monday night game we're also talking about how the buccaneers in the the teams are worth all this money never like i i can't remember who it was we were talking about i know thee according to forbes this is in two thousand eighteen the cowboys are worth five billion they're by far the most valuable valuable franchise the the buccaneers you're down at bottom now we used to be like in the top five or ten or now the bottom where like around twenty third something worth two billion after being born in nineteen ninety five hundred ninety two million million talk about game after game you can't find that type of gaining nothing except maybe bitcoin who was what we were talking about the redskins i know i've got a list of there's three point one billion i think it was the redskins snyder bottom he bought the redskins this is another fact check a day snyder bought the redskins per two hundred forty five million in nineteen ninety nine not foreigners fifty million godson so now i think they're worth three point one billion according affords may follow up follow up my follow up that you're back to fact check my follow up incomplete if you want to make good on your money by the nfl team apparently it's a good investment it has been any half of the past twenty years thirty years i i remember back when guys were making hardly any money it with a lot money back then but there's like a million years so crap like that now it's when they had the giants are dinosaurs practice no this is the this is after the dinosaurs you know they were beaten each other clubs none of them yeah they were getting paid in like slams skiing and arrowheads fire starting before the economy capitalism free trade back in the good old days back in the good old days that you wanna be a member of the tampa bay buccaneers compete line now well here's your chance submitted to the three minute video shows off you're talented special dot invents adam buccaneers dot nfl dot com you'll get an invite to live auditions on july twentieth accepting auditions for the base snare mary drum tanner symbols invite only in kittitas will be notified v e mail during the week of july ninth through july thirteenth course auditioned information of more details will provide it at that time but hey if you're a musician complete a smear mayor with a base or hinder or something of that nature basically their ex marching band trout be awesome but a triangle where the cowbell tambourine i'm not gonna have any of that on that when you have no rhythm not at all conspiracy or son at the age of like a year and a half have better riddle well let's hope they inherited that from here that not donovan smith appeared on the m in qb podcast i read that article it in here the podcasts are was pretty good they broke down the office of linemen and i kind of have to agree with their top ten list most of the dallas cowboys i get that part i just listened to all you just listen just listen to what not any listener would they made some really good points about how hard it is they have an office of line now a good one really good one because you have to pay these guys so much money and you end up paying so much money just to be average anymore because you've got into that right that's the thing you know they come in from college and a lot of doing these spread all fences and the office of lyman don't have to do stuff they have to do in the nfl now in the in the linemen are one of those positions where it really takes years to get good at in the nfl in now by the time they get good in their second contracts coming up and that's when they get paid big money so guys like donald smith they're getting huge contracts well not performing up to that contract level there's a really good article i would suggest breathing it you get a chance to donovan smith bunker this is a woman qb yeah okay like a national i don't really know any inside a lot of it i understand the four legged like football talk why why do you are you on this podcast should play the governor's claiming her is like talking about the different types of planes never play football and i understand that aspect of it you were talking about this earlier and so much more knowledgeable you do now of course you've had a couple of drinks and you're so maybe he found in marion football smart what is that you're drinking delaware it's kilowatt orange juice an sprite while what's it called i made it up lugo it's all right and what you're saying the drinking my gold it has a job to do more tequila the game last night she she was like why she would say important at the dealer my my on my thought process dirty so instead of watching it like a sane person when when do i just freeport in an side porn and over the ice until i could see it went to compare too much and not feel great this morning so she starts before she says i'm a little nauseous from last night i had to go get a breakfast sandwich on the way the merging birth roasted oh we did it doesn't great greece yeah the greens just soak it all up settled your stomach so today i use my shot glass an i could not see the laker over the highest she goes she's like i think i was poured a little what's so hopefully feel better tomorrow around dominic smith says he's got some football so it really smart which is why be eight licenses smart guys that see that's funny because in his podcast with alli more pet when he's talking with casey philips they hardly ever talk football you know the base were just joking around the gates and all yes but if you do that all day i don't know that you when i get off work and then right talked about it more i get that i think they wanna make the players very personable yeah yeah it's more about these personalities eight is the football but it's like what we talked about with information friendly otm hey it's like from a fan perspective we want football were football fan not donovan says fan right so which is very interesting movies you picked up but he was football smart i never got that from what i've seen anything where he talked about football listen right he's talking about the different types of plays and blocking that you might do is now off into line than what you look for for in the defensive teams formations yeah like how they're lining up and how you might reactions in office of lyman so it was interesting but what i did take away from this podcast was that jp last season would practice almost exclusively on the inside the zone so yeah an he's gotta be cuts jp was working with the young guys so he'd go up against young guys highs he'd make a play on on or he would do something and then he would stop and teach the young often sublime in what he did what they needed a counter it was really interesting end it's kind of the type of guy that yes definitely the type of guy be like it's interesting in a couple of aspects one i remember last year during training camp everybody's really excited about seeing jp working on the inside of the line expecting him to do that during the season now he did it during during the season you probably do it to three times a game but not a lot not like people were expecting it may not have to ask who were the young guys he's going up against an obviously didn't help there's only so much you know it's interesting that he saw the need to do that he's essentially acting as a coach to the office of lyman no more up to really bishen yeah i don't know what he was doing it's the kind of guy that loves in that he's like another coach on the field he's a veteran leader who is taking it upon himself to work with the young guys get them up this means right which made me me rethink my prediction that were gonna get rid of j p p i mean if he's doing all that we're gonna wanna keep it but it just doesn't seem to make sense to me that were gonna keep adding seven million we could clear off the cap and we're gonna need that money 'cause we're gonna need to sign somebody right but i think if they put him on the non football injury list they don't have the pan any doesn't count against the cap we look this up and they do you know he's still in a neck brace so profootballtalk talked about that today jp posted on instagram showing himself still in the next neckbrace he's gonna have it reevaluated in two months gordon gregg allman from v athletic dot com the earliest deacon return is october that's according to bruce areas but after probably luckily not even working out all off right yeah so he's gonna elemental little rusty yeah not in shape out in football shape they were gonna have any work in the scheme were going to make a decision on him here's sue because you know once the season start he's getting that money we can't cut him in october november and not have to pay him i dunno it's i don't see how we can't not cut him we don't cut him oriented cut some other people because we just do not have money to pay for any other free agents and you know were gonna wanna get somebody before the season starts but if he's you know i mean b i is all about the leadership that day both play soccer player but for the accident he would absolutely be on the team at n b he ain't guy jp needs to put himself in a coma from like february to july something gosh it's crazy he's got some bad luck man now you we both listened to be the pure cast podcast podcasts where they had anderson lars anderson who coach bruce arians quarterback whisper yes which they of course said that no other podcast had read the book or anything and i think you said but when i when i got from was they they withhold podcasts that had been sitting down there maybe it was but we should get credit we were the first podcast arena but we even have any podcast out with a book review yeah maybe that's the name of podcast now when outlet interview lars which is as soon as i saw the interview and you're like oh gosh why don't we do that we have a lot of really big ideas and then we know whatever they want and so if we do what we have done well we could have said we thought it was wouldn't even think about thinking about it will do the interview though it interview i liked lars you really got a sense for how much of a reporter he had and how how much respect he's got yeah i mean you you got a lot of these ghost writers or co writers were they called when they actually write the book trainer ghost rider doesn't have his name on the compound gosh i can't remember the call me out a lot of ended up not liking the people they have the work will yeah but this guy really like beer they're still friends like you so yeah i like the store he talked about where a b h you talked about the he talked about where he called b a b up one night he thought it was on the west coast of like nine o'clock at night he called you up but he was on the east coast so like twelve it'd be closed there now he's like yeah i've been in the business end where it's not nyse although that wasn't you it was funny you know what i got from that he said that dna he just commands respect just an everybody the league knows everybody respects him yeah maybe tomlin like the words feel i think that's something that's probably gonna hot mike tomlin his whole career and mike was very young as far as a coach goes yeah i think he listened to much to fans over shoe probably when you don't know how much say he actually have in that decision or or influence so that's probably something that mike has learned the hard way but you brought up that dungy kind of had the same report what players and he just command respect like he just didn't wanna disappointing him right yeah you hear that i mean that was one thing would dungy guy said they they played for him they did not want to disbelieve inlet dungy down any get the same sense of bruce areas bruce bruce developer last every time they stick with booker burs is that players really like playing for as a matter of fact i only bruce the only player i've heard that had anything negative to say about bruce was a john brown the wide receiver when any he basically said that he would just over the whole relationship he had with bruce earns brace probably expecting too much from him yeah probably you know there's some people as they can't meet your expectations rather than their disappointment and i'll just kind of right you off you know plenty of people like yeah we were talking about receivers and bruce arians is he gonna have mike evans play the slot it would not surprise me as a matter of fact i i really wanna say yes he's going to get the larry fitzgerald more and it worked out great and i evans would be 'perfect in the slow you down yes did he ever playing cutter scheming assigned no strictly outside yes how one dimensional is true you know what i'm saying that blast podcasts about how good are all pence was yes it was good best oftens we've ever had buccaneers the three years four years comes here when all clued lovey smith last year the obvious really did good but i got the thinking about that they weren't exciting now saint time vent times overall i think they were a little lackluster yes they would get these big chunk plays you know ten fifteen twenty yard i understand explosives as dirk cutter like the call with with nothing would happen you wouldn't get the run after catch anything like that it'd be basically be boom catch the ball the ball down next play horrible often i can't touch down yeah i really would like to see his yards after the catch give who's good at that little scott miller watch this game table and hill where you just that little guy is fair and when i say louise little i mean he's he's like norm outside guy well this little in football right exactly you seem out on the field and he's like small the sean jackson he's like five ten lasted two hundred pounds right yeah i think he's like a hoarder forty five now let me look that up wow all of his right he's five foot eleven seventy four pounds he does not look she looks really small picture on the buccaneers website like seventeen he's twentyone did not that far off look seventeen on the field on what the guy catch the ball man he goes he's a yard after catching guy so but how you gonna do with contact raw yeah all the highlights i saw there wasn't a whole lot of contact them run everybody then it's not gonna be a nice yeah yeah he played bowling green to so it wasn't like extremely competitive where google says it you know how interesting but yeah he's a he's got the run after the catch bility will see but i would really like see mike evans get more run the ball mike evans is not fast i mean he could run down from behind by like defensive lineman you can make i think he runs out of gas engine alignment out or defensive player now i guess separation oh yeah yeah yeah when he's getting but his his bread and butter is contested catches you know he he will be anybody jumping off the ball so they don't eat out right i'm at that point right that's why i think he'd be perfect in the slot i mean you over the middle between him and howard go my gosh thank in a game make has he's always hurt man and unfortunately not gonna is probably not going to seal that see that tied in we'll rounded cutter used run with hillman those beautiful beautiful beautiful play design i dunno will probably never see that again but yeah hopefully this office will be more dynamic will have more running more runs out of the catchy should make it more interesting yeah because like i said hey we we had a great often you know as far as the passing game and all that concerned but it just it really was lackluster watching it wasn't that entertained but you know when we got the ball we could marshall fields one score i listened to ian beckles this morning end there's been a lot of talk about jay mess around the league games here good quarterback end in brought up the point that they have enough put up forty points a game just to keep up with posey nonsense because i mean then cutting stop on yes you look at the stats and the numbers and all that stuff and he really doesn't shine on that but you know when you watch watch the games yeah i mean he was half of driving team down the down every time they got the ball like whatever now he only has put up twenty points to win a game you know we now continue that if they can get the office of line reasonably reasonably good end teach what james winston how reid the field 'cause to me that's his biggest issue you know he he leaves the way too many points you know he he locks in the guys in just throws to and when there's a guy wide open running down the field if we could fix those two things with jamus yeah i mean he'll be eight top ten quarterback hey at least he's not marcus mariota that's all i got i mean he may not be peyton manning or tom brady but who is he's the best quarterback buccaneers raf right around far no deal we really wanna start over again you know i say that but we have steve young doug williams okay he's the best quarterback that's ever played for the buccaneers how to say this because i mean steve young was definitely a good quarterback he's really good quarterback with the buccaneers frightened jaanus is broken like punter rancor and spend the money so he's the best quarterbacks hectically leans dean and they're not accurate yes will go with that if if he gets the second contract it'll be the first one in buccaneers history the first quarterback ever get a second contract with the buccaneers how crazy is that insane speaking of contracts with players they nfl nfl nfl players association is in talks right now now if you're not aware of the cb eight which is agreement they have between the nfl and nfl players association is the how guys played like it's called the collective bargaining agreement that expires at end of the twenty twenty season so what they're trying to do is hammer everything out now to not disrupt so there's no strikes or anything especially now they got these this is supposed to be the one hundred season it's gonna be a big year for the nfl they're doing a lot of fancy stuff with it you know i had no idea that the hunting season yeah hundredth year the nfl so they don't want anything become muddy the waters so they're trying to get things worked out now the big issues they're dealing with this one marijuana legalization they don't wanna test guys for marijuana anymore that's inappropriate and i'm pretty sure they're gonna agree with that he thinks yes i mean why why not i mean what's that got to do with playing football you think number alcohol no no okay but then there's so many states now that it's legal in right it just doesn't make sense anymore and it's not like it's a performance enhancing drug anything it's exact opposite but the big thing the bigger issue is the players want guaranteed money they want guaranteed t contracts no more of this you know you get a hundred fifty million dollar contract with only forty five million guaranteed they want the whole thing guarantee well that's how they got there now in typical arm i know i'm i'm i'm not a big fan of any because like he said he just would give people not incentive to to perform but you know how it is everybody's always on the side of the players they see these nfl owners is the big mean corporation guy in all this but we gotta be careful that we don't believe nfl dry right 'cause they're not making money the the whole sports gonna go i mean i don't know i don't know it'd be does it a the obidos a lot more than what they change how they can oh yeah yeah they would definitely the contract would be much smaller if they're gonna be guaranteed there's no there's no hundred million dollars over five years with fifty million guaranteed now it'll be sixty million guaranteed over five years okay you know that's more palatable yeah and you know it's unintended consequences to you never know how it's gonna work out if you could predict that we'd all be making a lot of money in vegas right and that's another thing that they're bringing up in the nfl the cbs is be gambling money talk about had a divide that up 'cause a lot of states allow gambling now in players want in on that money i mean the owners were ecstatic about 'cause they're making a crap ton of money off of it how to make money off of that don't ask them how those does make money off anything i don't know what they do for a living they just make money they just exist and money appears like money in there's an issue with the stadiums is the thing that's called stadium points what these owners they're trying to do is basically getting pot going where money is put aside for stadium renovations building and all that stuff and they want that come out of these nfl revenue because owners have been the past twenty years they've been feeding off of municipalities yeah i know the city's had been basically footing the bill for all gonna come down it's i think a lot of cities are kind of sick of that yeah yeah which it's a it's a really good deal for the city's i mean it brings in revenue and all good stuff i'm a fan of it i think in that congestion right yeah some the owners have really taken it over more and having these cities paying you know just about the whole bill for the stadiums in the owners just sit back and clicked profits in cities cities are on the hook for three billion dollars for the next fifty years that's not right but i dunno will see how it all works out i hope they get this pounded out before the next cbs comes up and it's just a boom you wonder why the owners you wanna do is like they with players they want him to sign a contract before the next one's done that's what they're trying to do with the cb now's the nfl period to agree mel to expand the new contract migrant accident there will be one issue that they get hung up on an nfl piaget years is that time constraint as leverage their most likely yeah and if they see the owners are going to be willing to do certain things start forces were more right well both sides are gonna do that yeah so hopefully we can get this pounded out and there won't be a stoppage in twenty twenty i see that going forward thinking enough to china addressing our counter so much money involved in nfl common billions of dollars what's the the forty billion i think was the last time i looked and that was kind of like five years ago and that's including did you know when i did my research ended the fantasy football makes as much as tv revenue does for the the nfl ten is insane that is insane event like ad revenue or people buying in i don't know that you're saying that scene because we play it for free right right but a lot of lot of the players you by nfl dot com so league service where you get all these benefits the show you real player injuries and all that stuff we don't have that me you know where where the free version or commissioners discount fantasy league would also like yahoo and other and they have a license that from nfl okay that makes you can't use player images or logos has to be license not a license from the nfl just to do anything is and fifty thousand dollars an it's usually an exclusive license if you want to make golf tuesay's you can't end off cousy the golf channel now that i'm thinking like oh we're talking about the lack if i ever do candy okay if you want to make it cousy of sports and nfl team you'd have to pay a hundred thousand dollar license gosh let the cuts that's ten years ago last time i looked and they have probably two two and fifty thousand now so you gotta play that straight off and it's not like a payment plan you at the giving the licensing fee up front just to be able to use images likenesses and all that but it's an exclusive deal so if you make cousy you're the only one that could make cousy how these famously stop words i have to imagine it's not exclusive but that's how the nfl makes money minute could make a crap ton of money but they pay roger goodell like a billion dollars a year don't pay tribute to that's not capitalize on a jaguar i don't think he got the private jet diddy i think it was trying to get that but did you hear he got a standing ovation last week that de nfl headquarters for what for announcing that they didn't july fourth off he did i just know you guys never gotten one before never fought for he probably probably scaredy he he was published like wow i thought crowd booed up like what is this clapping i give him a private jet and just solely the nfl private dapper like you're gone we will fly around the world where you wanna go one way trip will tell you're not coming back tyron lou here's mug but you know he's got a tough job it gets pretty well yeah i'll take that john have everybody in america hate me for a billion dollars a year may get it's never like two million shares gary more then again spending a lifetime you know we're going to duck duck go that right now search engine which were bringing dot guile either duck duck go now all right well it's a a search engine it doesn't track you like a you know like google attracts everything you do man and stuff don't go doesn't it's been around for a little okay a roger goodell salary well as a top thing thirty five million a year he makes is not just drew brees drew brees makes thirty five yeah i think he's out like thirty three million this season what it only takes home like twenty thousand 'cause he's bond stupid julie he's an idiot later guillaume i know that from experience the players union now they don't necessarily wanna pay for leagues stadiums so that's gonna be a contentious issue because any money that the nfl takes out a b revenue they could split up amongst all the teams you know the the take somehow stadium rebuilding the renovation all that that's money that ain't going to blair's so that could be an issue there in the owners want this because the owners of so used to not having to foot the bill stadiums anymore so they're trying again if i'm somewhere else yeah which would probably logically be a better way to do it you know will say when he would give these players power in teen location then you know what teams wanna move and stuff and be like oh hey you know we put this money in this is armani we put a new stadium you're saying here maybe give them some leverage nah you know all this stuff is crazy now but they're still two more years before it'll be set in stone most likely this is great news this is great great great great news derrick brooks was inducted into the national high school hall of fame today i'm june thirtieth that makes derrick brooks has been inducted into every level hall the same in football college football nfl high school football that's amazing the amount of respect everybody has her derrick brooks is it just makes you proud to be a book and you're saying oh he's going to be at practice is helping the buccaneers yeah i heard him on an interview where the ira accounts men he went on there i think they do something in a recurring yes the paper to yeah and then he listen i don't listen to it every now they put about sporadically i can what i'm saying that but i think they do it once a week once every month i don't know but i listen to it when it pops up you know he apparently talks janus regular lane there ten he needs to yeah but he's going to be participating in practice is helping the guys out right bruce arians was yeah he said this you get this'll coaches all the time they say oh we want the alumni come in for practices and all that well unless you're great sean and put a he he said that but it appears he's really follow through with this we know we got warns that company is gonna help train you guys yeah we know their books is coming in you guys have any former players on his staff russians is so crazy yeah it's so weird how he just integrates everything into a football to toss the grave i'm so excited so excited to share a large anderson on the peter cast said that be as when he goes to a new team he like seeks out the veteran leadership on the team can get them to buy in immediately right which is so thin considering the gerald mccoy debacle forty minutes into this before we mentioned journal because you know you could tell the buccaneers again yeah but you're right we pointed this out in the podcast while back bruce areas the first thing he did the first player he talked to when he went to arizona was the defensive tackle darnell docket and producers who was who is a veteran leader on the defense defensive tackle first player he met well so he is in the book quarterback whisper he wants to establish a relationship with him to get him to buy into aeriens program he did not do that we were going at all right shrug not even like a meeting and then decided it's not gonna work out minnesota overtone me you know it was like immediately we movie did not want jerome according to my theory is that mccoy's got a reputation in the league right agree i had talked to people in the league that says he knows everybody in the league right very i don't have anything back it up just feeling who's got bruce arians with a dirt road actually reaching out to other alumni members to get involved with the team i think his team is in such a unique position and that were not that far removed from the super bowl team and they're still involved in a in the community in tampa could call on them to come back and they'll still have that kind of influence over the young players you will i was thinking might be coming back donald pin not as a player but count donald inlaws buccaneers and he's still got you think how come the tampa yeah i think he would come maybe help out donovan smith a little bit interesting be awesome to be i went down he lands yes and harvey yeah so a last night molly bb in madden nineteen eighteen there were clear and i wanted to put the video up because it was hilarious were women overtime yeah i was playing as the bangles ralph was the document she's randomly select i allow ralph have the buccaneers because i'm a good wise i had the run one of the five interceptions by the time we have time it was six sacks neither one of us can kick field goals or behind so maybe she's running she runs play is over time they were like five minutes left every time i thought i had her you know i'm like okay i got this she runs it right up the middle in just run for a touchdown what was it sixty yards almost fifty fifty six yards yeah something like that yeah just use ran right up the middle and i'm like why in the world do good groove actually pretty good by accident on i want all the buttons do i just push on as planned and see what happens like it worked out sometimes but other times spin move when there's nobody there oh gosh that was hitler's tack on yeah so when you know she runs scored the touchdown and i'm like i'm like why in the world just happened there because i ran a blitz tibet side that you ran in none of my guys do anything but what i did see brand got grimes come running in in tackle you're guy but then he just shedding like he was water in his right now is i guess typical so then i do i move the camera up top so i could see see exactly what happened gosh we laugh so hard there was what five buccaneers laying on the ground looking like they were doing a snow angels a molly said they looked like they were a murder victim chalk outlines rock yeah it was gerald mccoy he's got pancakes a ghost in pancakes i think grimes style before the runner got there i know he he looks like on his belly and then god backup yeah he did fall down but then he got backup tackle tackle you're already hit even like bounced off of it and i'm like yeah so anyhow i'm watching something like you know men's really got this bill mrs roosters buccaneers head back so i i wanna play clip on you'd see what the commentary salvia we probably will solaris aim at one interception for a touchdown you had where you're running then you just start doing these moves out of nowhere nobody was around you spun around a company like what am i 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[192] Las Vegas Raiders Instant Reaction

Buccaneers Observer

35:18 min | 11 months ago

[192] Las Vegas Raiders Instant Reaction

"Every year in the NFL it's a new team as far as goals go we have one. Putting a ring on her finger. Welcome to the Buccaneers Observer podcast. This is Rob Phillips. Molly Bay. Today is Victory Sunday. They it is I don't care about numbers whenever I care about is what we have 40. What was the final score forty forty-five to 2045 2:20? That is the only numbers I care about Victory Sunday. All right. Well, that was an epic beat down. It was I'm like in shock. I'm more like it's shock and awe I think is how I would describe it. I would go with that. It's a I can't I can't believe that there was that much of a discrepancy. Like I felt like Oakland kind of hung in there. I don't think they look bad. We looked up wage order one point really are we Twenty-One points ahead. I know it didn't it didn't feel that lopsided. Very lopsided the score proves that undeniable fact. Yeah. Well in the stats Tom Brady is just crazy 33 completions of 45 attempts 369 yards for touchdowns back with facts again. And I know that's gotta put our offensive line unit in the top five. At least. If not, number one. I heard on the way into the game the announcer's we bought the best defense in the league, you know feels good feels good commission. I know and then for your offense to go and put up 45 points. It's just incredible. We only had 85 yards rushing. It's only you didn't eat them. I think we had 60 of that in the first half probably. Yeah, who do you think our top receiver was Scotty Miller? Yeah, six receptions of nine targets hit a hundred and nine yards and a touchdown sweet. I know and it's like our offense who you going to stop you can stop Gronkowski. You have stop Evans. You can stop Godwin you're going to stop off around Jones. Now, we got Leonard fournette up in the mix. It's got him if you stop all those guys will be like, yeah, which is thought to Scotty Miller. Yeah. We so many options. It's a They all look good epic beat down are very happy with the results of this not gonna lie. I think I'm going to have a good week. But I feel good. Okay, what I was looking at the background, there's a big bubble machine sticking out of a box. anyhow does not look like a bubble machine to me. I don't know. Devin white I thought he was going to have a good game. You thought it was hit-or-miss. He led the stat sheet for the defense. So I'm going to take that w. And 11 tackles nine solo 3 sacks III sex. Yeah crap I get home. Do not remember that he had all three of our sacks. Damn, I know. But hats off to Devon white man hit he laid on Derek R O going out of bounds. I was really surprised. That was not a penalty. Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't cuz I would have been mad was a good hit that was a shot of the bow to the rest of the quarterbacks of the league. Yeah, we'll try running on us man, Well, that's our thing. We keep hurting everybody's best player, you know. For physical or thing after thing? And then Derek Carr when he got hurt, he got a hit the groin so we call it the groin the groin when they say he got a groin injury in these guys and they're talking about yeah song. I mean, what else are they supposed to call it? He got hit in the dick nuts. Poor guy that passed the Scotty Miller in the corner of the endzone was work of art. It was beautiful right in the breadbasket. I mean the past was perfect the cat it was a touchdown. Yeah, we had a lot of really nice looking plays in this game offensively and defensively I will say this are often. I mean it is insane look at those numbers, but they're not like as exciting as they were last year. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know James Wilson always had that it's going to happen back layer. Yeah. Yeah, what's going to happen? That's more like it. It could be a 30 40-yard pass for a touchdown. You could be an awesome play horrible place an interception a Pick 6. So at least we don't have that you're right, but it did make it interesting. Like you said, you know, I used to say that about watching Brady and the Patriots. I was like man, they win live with kind of boring. They're just not like methodical, you know, it's just moved out and see all moved down the field score, you know, it's it's very regimented and feels like explain 9, all the way down the field. The Patriots did used to do a lot of funky plays they do about four or five a game where you're like, oh that was pretty neat. You know, interesting play design. Do you think that were incorporating that yeah a little bit odd, we're incorporating a lot more Slants and Crossing routes and stuff to a Brady Brady putting his mark on this offense. the we only had four four penalties for 20 yards to the so four penalties and two games. Yeah, and then Gregg Allman was saying with Brady stats in his first three games. He threw three touchdown to three interceptions. And then in the last five games, he's thrown 14 touchdowns to one interception. Holy crap. I know they're crazy. Yeah. Well then he was keeping up with Jameis Winston on the interception. Yeah, and he's just blown past. That's pretty good. I know we gave up no sacks no interceptions, but we did have one fumble Gronk fumbled, but we recovered it. So we didn't actually lose it. Whereas which I could have swore. You can't be the first person to come out of bounds and tears. Even if you were the one that lost it So I thought for sure that was going to be a penalty but like it didn't go out of bounds. I thought the ball went out of bounds. Oh, he went out he went out of balance and it came right back in and jumped on the ball pack. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know the specifications of that penalty the specifications. I'm sure it's something simple though. Yeah. We had one interception who caught that Edwards Edwards again, but did Winfield in Winfield? Oh, yeah Winfield is Winfield Scott. There's definitely call back. Yeah, I think Edwards had a tip ball. He might have tipped this one and then it wouldn't feel caught up. Yes, you call that. Did you say he'd give this person or something? Oh, somebody said it it was like a list of the things that might happen and somebody said when feels going to get his first interception off and returned it back for a touchdown. They said so you got half earning doing it. What do you think about that? McClendon he started? Didn't notice him how he had five tackles for solo and a tfl. Yeah, I wasn't really paying attention individual players that much I was watching the rotation. We did we plead 98 quite a bit Nelson. Yeah, he was playing a lot on the right side and especially in the first half which surprised me because they're starting left tackles out and I figured they would really put jpp. They're dead, you know consistently what was up with that offensive lineman getting injected. Yeah. That was weird. That was really weird and you couldn't tell it look like it should have been on sue the penalty. I don't know if they do did something before or after the play. Yeah. Yeah was like super egregious but those type of things the the audience really needs to be able to tell him you can't just rush just can't call penalties and you got to be like what? Yeah, you know what happened? It's kind of like the the the Jensen penalty, you know, I mean the head but subdued a little bit. I mean just barely just kind of walks up to him, you know, and they need a jack showing you think you get you think. Well, you had said something really bad to the guy that's right there. I don't know but I thought it was 74 at first because he was all twisted up at his legs around the neck of Goldston. Yeah, he was like laying on him only earn. Yeah, and then they showed the the video from a from a long distance and you'll see the center was on top of it was going to happen not just dead not chosen Anto and suit came over and pulled him off and then it cut so we don't know what happened after that long before that sucks for them. He didn't look like he was too like confused by it though. He's kind of like walked off. No big deal. Like normally they're like cussing about it or upset. He's not upset at all right ready to go back and get in the sauna I guess so. now that's probably close cuz the cabin oh, that's right. Yeah. They got 284 yards receiving Nelson agholor agholor, or was there leading receiver had a hundred thousand yards? I was worried about that Carlton Davis injury hmmm. Thank God he came back out there. He's really we were talking about this during the game that God are you know, even three or four years ago. Our secondary was just absolute garbage. Yeah, and Jason light they've spent you know, what three years probably rebuilding it and it's pretty good. Now. It's been a lot of draft picks on them. Yeah a lot of capital capital paid off. I think how do you feel about Jamel Dean to that? All right. Yeah, you did I wage. He's so long. He's got that weird closing speed. He just he hears voices. Yeah, that one where he was like right on top of the receiver. He did not even look like he moved. Anyway, he just kind of was like there. The score. Okay. So here's how the score went. We were tied in the first quarter 7 to 7 and then the second quarter they scored fourteen to our three. So that kind of was where God no just kidding. We scored fourteen to their three. So that's where we really got out ahead of them in the second quarter. Well, didn't they have ten points on us to start the game or no? Yeah, I did know it was 7 or 7. Okay. Yeah, they'd scored seven and we scored seven. Yeah, yeah. And then in the fourth quarter, we scored three touchdowns man. We have really got to get this place fixed up in the background is horrible. focus focus and his background Because it distracts. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know what you're doing tomorrow then. Yep. It's on the list. Okay, Leonard. Fournette was our leading rusher. What did you think about that? Cuz it seemed like they were giving him a lot of Kerry. Well, you know Ronald Jones had he bobbled that pass and dropped it and is it right after that? It was just like four. Four. For now. Yeah kind of almost like they were light a fire under Joneses, but I don't like that though. You know, I know I feel like Jones earned. Yeah the bulk of the carries but you know area and this isn't really a Workhorse running back kind of guy. So maybe he's trying to let Rodger rust up. Hey, you know, we won so all decisions. I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I mean renter didn't do bad. I mean 34 yards and a touchdown 34-yard. Yeah, but for not only had fifty so compared to each other it's not that big of a difference how many yards per carry on? Okay. Yep. For a night and had four and a half and Rodeo had 2.6. Yeah. Yeah, so hmm. That's not good for Jones. I know for a fact waiting on his heels, but maybe that's what you need when Jones is to let him get in a full game. Maybe he's all that time, you know to like loosen up a lot of running back so like that you get warmed up. Yeah. Well, I think it's more that the defense gets tired out. Oh, that's true, too. Yeah, then again they get tired out no matter what so long Yeah, the Raiders quit around three minutes. They just ran them all they were just like, you know twice now. We've had the other upon a quit like bench their starters. Yeah. That's crazy. I guess I would do too. That's why I'm like, I'm just in awe of like it was just such a complete-game complete defense complete off-chance that offense. What's good to our special teams? We had a like a 30-yard return on our on a kickoff. Yeah. Jaydon mickens. So you were just talking about how you're like, yeah. I'm not that impressed with them know that's what I'm hoping. They do with Antonio Brown hook and have him run kickoffs back. I'm just be fun to watch. no, he's you know, he's really just health insurance like Jay Carreon said with wide receivers. I don't think he's going to I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know what we're going to do with film. But I do want to see him return kicks. Yeah, me too. But do you think I mean Mackenzie didn't do too bad. He had 19 total yards. That's really good. Yeah, he had one where I was like, oh my gosh, if you would have just kept running to the left, he would have got a yard he but he just ran out of bounds and I'm just not real impressed with him. It's not horrible, but he's had a couple times where he's not gotten yardage when he definitely could have yeah. Yeah. But it almost seems to me like they're coaching them like that because everyone else is always done that too. So know to me it just seems like his running Style. Oh Devin, white also had three quarterback heads count as quarterback hits, I think so. Yeah, so that might be because yeah, that's a great sex. Didn't have took Iraq very time. Does that count as tackles to that? He had three tackles. Did he get three tackles-for-loss? But you know what some tackles should count more than others. Yeah when you tackle their quarterback that she could sack on a quarterback going like 3 and 1/2 stats. I know get a tackle for a loss solo tackle. Quarterback here because honestly, how can you not tackle the quarterback get a sack without getting quarterback in exactly. It's a football man about twelve twelve items in the stack column from one play. Yeah one sack. Oh, this is crazy that their time the possession. They had 31 minutes just really 31 minutes 4 seconds to our 2856. Yeah. I wouldn't have guessed that. I know me neither. So they they just really couldn't move the ball. They could move it a little bit at a time. It sounds like yeah, there were averaging 5 and 1/2 yards of play to our 6 and 1/2 years to play. So selling a lot, but when you have sixty plays, right, right, yeah, they had 63 plays we had seventy and our total yards. We met 454 total yards to their 347. So we have had seven players more but two minutes Less in possession right now. We're kicking out plays dead in a hundred yards more. Yeah. So wow, I'm just kind of in shock by the whole thing. You have been right after the game. You're just like I'm in shock. Yeah. Just okay. Let's keep it up. Molly has never seen a good Tampa Bay Buccaneers football team. That's her. She became a fan the first year of humor. Yeah. We were talking about this. We went on the computer accounts on Friday night. If you guys haven't listened to it I please go check it out a lot of fun with Brent and ren thought we were talking about our football stories. Like how became we became Bucks fans and my answer is only as I married into it and Ralph gave me a hard time afterwards and said you gotta you gotta go home of better story expand on. Yeah. You got a Stockholm syndrome being coerced. I really like the box cuz my husband says Like hey Molly blink twice if you need help to do it so into the camera anyway, so I did think about like when I really feel like my fandom was cemented and it was Josh Freeman game the first game in 2009 that he had come in. This was under Raheem The Young green regime and it was Josh Freeman's first game Byron Leftwich had been benched That season and Josh Johnson. So Josh Freeman was like the boss man up and he just killed it and beat the Green Bay Packers in the creamsicle uniform. Yeah, that was so sweet. And that was my first kind of initiation and two bucks down. Yes. Yeah. It was a great season from there on out and it was the first good quarter of the next year and ever since birth. Total show and I almost have PTSD link from winning and then like when you're up and then you fall like we all know that feeling and you're like, oh gonna do not what life experience that again. Yeah, you almost expect the NFL police to come bust down the door take a win from us, you know, they're not allowed to have that a lot have that many wins. They're going to create like an age limit for quarterbacks will totally be scraped. Yes, I'm going to go. How old is Tom Brady. Yeah, 342 is the age limit? But yeah, it's just a wild feeling and to be recognized as like the best defense in the league. That was really awesome. We're home team now. Yeah, there was going to be like, yeah, they just they just curb-stomped the two two really good things. Yeah. Yeah that everybody was thinking. Oh man. These might be the Superbowl cuz I mean the Raiders beat the Chiefs and they beat the Saints, you know, come on now is like Chumps the Panthers. So, how about that game today? Yeah. Well now we need and the Saints to lose paint Panthers almost Beetle. I know it was closed class papers had it to the last few minutes off in that Atlanta game booth know Troy. That was that was the comeback game. Both of them have this thing about getting whooped them when they're fifty points ahead right Denver. I'm in Detroit. Yeah, I remember Detroit Chicago. Yeah eating home in Chicago came back and beat him and he like what how do you offer midst trubisky again? And so this team this game between those two is really the battle of the Have Nots you'll see who could give up the biggest lead and guess who won Atlanta is a good chance that that Forty-Eight three y'all you can't never live there like a last-second touchdown and there was even a pig. Detroit gotta last second touchdown and then there was a penalty after the touchdown. It was unnecessary roughness, I think are not taunting something wrong. And so there was a penalty on the extra-point moves extra-point back. Oh boo the extra point. Oh, yeah, but they need but they were tied and then with extra point they one month. So have they not made the extra-point Diana want to go a little bit of a nice twist in there with the Falcons. Yeah, give you a little hope. I'm not so good football day overall. Yeah. I wonder what are standings are and then I'm Cecil welcome. We're half a game behind New Orleans. I would imagine Yeah, that was the only thing bad about today is the Saints did not lose to the Panthers. It's not enough data yet. I know but that's okay. I'll take the win Anita and to a team that beat both of them like in your face. Yeah, and this was the decisive or just like last week. There was there was like Adam probably 4 minutes out of that whole game where I was thinking man. This might be closed. I know never thought we were going to lose like I say, yeah. Yeah because it was like in the in the third or second quarter page where it felt like they could Come back. Okay, we're five and two. Yes. No, we're number one fans are four and two for two. They've had a bike. They've had to buy and the wrong answers are three and four. And Falcons are one in six the Falcons, you know, we played to know we need to let him get up about 28,000. Oh, no, I do 28/3 let Tom Brady come back. Now we so messed up. That's why we need to do it may call to Blink sell the team. Does Matt Ryan will retire like that game cars or he goes to the Patriots? How about that? Yeah, and then we have Drew Brees go to the Patriots. So they can have a quarterback competition. Do you have the whole NFC South all the quarterbacks go there? To the Patriots to consult Bello check for losing his oh my god did the Patriots win the day? I don't know. They're now. They're they're two and four. Yeah can't who did not look good. Who are they playing again? Can't remember good question. I got it right here. Green Bay in Houston, play it again or played today San Francisco New England play in San Francisco. They lost to San Francisco. Oh my God, it was bad 2:33 to 6. Oh my gosh, they might bench Cam Newton. They need to That's bad. Yeah, Green Bay beat Houston 35 to 20. They were mad. They were mad about last week. So they took it out. Just don't want to apparently Andy Dalton Dalton Georgia. Oh, I haven't seen that like carted off to feel it was a nasty hit. I have not seen that hit. Yeah. Yeah. I heard it was pretty rough. The guy got that hit him got a ejected. He did him. He'll be fine with you might even get suspended. Who knows? Yeah. I wonder what the injury is. They said it was really bad. So Who knows what to look into that? Man, I tell you great great great day. I love these days. I love this feeling and I have a great week don't know about the rest of y'all. I'm going to be a hunting down people who have real nice stickers on their cars you talk to him in the grocery store parking lot where your gear like Frank a week like head-to-toe. Yeah pants. Yeah, I you know just consult them with a little laugh. They're they're get to say things to him. Like, hey, man, it's all right, you're doing good. Yellow don't you know that that talk down to them stuff off of fun? You know Raiders beat Jon Gruden. Hopefully see you in the Superbowl. It'd be nice. Yeah, that would suck. And Tampa beat him there be fun. I mean they could do it. They have see it's not that strong. I mean they've got the teeth the Ravens Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's only undefeated team. I think it's very first straw Tennessee. I'm just kidding. They got some good people in the AFC they'd have to get through much. They're a good team. I know I'm naming like half the teams in the NFL like none orange and I'm seeing we get the Giants next week. Oh my God. I can't wait for this. This is a Revenge game. It's always like a bye week. I know to put our second stringers in yeah. He'll be like a sneezing really cuz you know, they haven't gotten not doing this. We should not underestimate them. I thought you get burned and then it's a really upsetting if that's not what winning is about. I don't know why there is, you know, just being able to get too cocky. Yeah Brown. Yes tourism henhouse month. Yeah, so and here's to 5 and 2. When was the last time that happened? Whoa. Wow. Yes. You look that up. Looking Gregory Twitter. He's probably got it out of my staff. That's true. I was joking. You don't have to do that. Okay, great game gotta hand it to the guys. Yeah, it is a good point though, if if we go and get beat by the Giants, that'll be horrible. Stop. Stop it a Debbie Downer you brought it up you brought into the universe. That's true. I did. So yeah, we need to be on point next week and just really gosh man, you know, if we can beat the Green Bay Packers this away and we go to Las Vegas and I'm not worried about the Giants. Let's be real here. I'm not worried about is yeah. This is going to be embarrassing for the Giants fans would be awesome where we plan on that. Hopefully at home, so the fans can enjoy that I know. Cuz the Green Bay send us a primetime game too. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's Monday night, right? Why would they put the Giants on Monday night? Yeah, who wants to see? Yeah, you sure you're smart, you know, it's off of the Giants. Are you sure? Yeah. Right down to put the home team. Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yep at the Giants crap the matchup predictor on. Espn.com has us at 79.9% favored to win one of these people they never they never take the big chances. You know what I'm saying? I mean what what person have you ever said heard predict that the Bucks are going to win 41,000. So what was the score forty five to twenty $45 twenty. Whoever said stuff like never know they go really? Oh, you know what? Yes I got thank you. Yeah, Ralph prediction was 42 to 24. You know, I gave them too much credit. I know and that's not true. Yeah. Yeah, did we miss a field goal or something in there? No. I know. Yeah, so I don't know. I gotta go. I don't know Liam man. You can't play if you don't win that way. You can't win if you don't play can't fight. If you're going to play go back go big. I want to look at my score. I said 31 a 27. It was now that close I gave them too much credit to too much credit way too much. so The Giants. Okay. All right. I think I think we got a Boppy we should we should get us are second stringers. Seriously give them work at they didn't get a giant a preseason and we got some pretty good second stringers. I think they would be a good challenge for the Giants. I want to see their quarterback run again. I know I was just thinking that fall down. I was almost as bad as the butt fumble now Devin white would catch him like immediately. And run beside a looking at and really, you know, you're going to call right? You gotta tell you man, you know fall. He's like a gazelle like you so fast and you have the ceramic talking about that in the broadcast gives a man he's got fast go fast. Is he is He gets pretty hard to I think I know we should ask Derek Carr think he knows he got depleted and he went right into Jon Gruden's legs. Like we didn't suck. Yeah, that's how I was like, I was like we might broke his leg but his helmet went right into the Jewish in but he just kind of shake to no that's John Gruden man, you know rub some dirt on it off. We are how do you feel again? I went on him. Love it. Love it. Ain't nobody to we League I don't want to get a win on. Yeah, even the grude Chucky. All right. Well, we're going to go celebrate this win and finish watching the Seattle game that's going on Molly. I'm not boycotting. She's playing me in fantasy football. I played all Buccaneers. She needs fifty points. Yeah, I think about that and she has three Seattle players play and clean Russell. Well, Chris Carson, he could do that himself. We couldn't. Yes, he could no. Yes, Save. He's not Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Got me 48.0. Scotty militantly good. He got me 28. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I would have played for net. How much did he get 23 or something? Well, we know how people love to hear us talk about our fantasy football team. Everybody loves here in about everybody else's fantasy. So, all right guys, great game walk proud this week where you gear a lot? A lot of new fans out there find some Raiders fans to talk to hunt him down. Yeah could solum. We got a lot of people who watch this game never seen the Buccaneers before and they like, um, hm. So let's go out and show our fandom and give us some support. Stocking up in the the malls and shopping centers and parking lots Buccaneers. Oh, we going to the Superbowl. Yeah. Yeah beating everybody in our path. As long as a ref stay neutral. Thank you. Talking to you Saints cheaters. All right anything else to say? That's it. I had a fact-checker follow-up to start this but I forgot what it was irrelevant as in Robert. Yeah, you get so excited about a win like that. Everything else is out the window years. So we'll try to bring the facts follow-ups in the next podcast, but until then go Bucks.

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[232] Titans matchup preview

Buccaneers Observer

57:54 min | Last month

[232] Titans matchup preview

"Every year in the nfl. It's a new team. As far as goals go. We have one putting the finger. Well the news observer podcast. This is row phillips molly. Today is august twentieth. Twenty twenty one. We have Let me see twenty days. Twenty days left. Oh my gosh. It seems like if last. But i think you're right. August nineteenth august twentieth to september. Ninth bam eleven. When you say that gets me all worked up get a room. Get ruined myself. We've got a podcast for today. We're going to be covering the tennessee. Game saturday preseason game number two against the bag is a reigning world champions. Love saying that the reigning world champions saturday saturday saturday so and then we have some news. You got bucks news right. Yeah all tied together. Yeah so this is basically just the pre this is our preseason because normally we do a pre game show for sunday. This is our preseason to so bear with our mistakes. speaking of which fact checks followups blue dramatic airman's that don't make any there's only two and neither one of those a fact check the one follow up is we had quite a few people comment to us since messages in regards to trial for whatever name. Is the mayor all yet. The assistant strength and conditioning coach female on our. What one of two female coaches on our staff who is always positioned around bruce arians on the sidelines during the broadcast. Every time they show him you see her and it's something that's i've noticed for over a year now our and we were. You know who who is decided. This i mean she's she's an assistant coach and strength and conditioning coach at that. There's no reason for her. To be around. Bruce arians while we had a lot of people comment to us it may be. She is the get back coach. You know a gift at coaches somebody who is responsible to make sure that the coach doesn't step onto the field. They're supposed to stay behind the white lines the ads but they never do. They always stand in it The refs are quite lax on that just long as you don't run into them as the refs are run by their kind of go with it but there will be a get back coach. Who is responsible to make sure. The coach doesn't go too far out. And sean mcvay of the rams famously had the most animated one where. He was very very dramatic. You gotta look it up on youtube if you haven't seen a pretty funny and i think that's when they get back coach kind of became a thing with the nfl fan base. I don't think a lot of people at heard of it before that. And so sean. Mcvay kind of popularized it. Blame it on sean. Mcvay talk but i do not think. That's what it is personally. I don't think that's what it is. Because i have never seen her communicate with him or touching or or anything. She's always just kind of looking around and not really paying attention you know. She's definitely not looking at would you. When be as going off. Would you be grabbing him trying to pull him back who it was money not. We'll in another thing that makes me think that that might not be at is. We've watched some other teams that have female coaches and we've noticed that with the atlanta game. You're watching atlanta tennessee. And had the same thing. They had an assistant coach standing by the head coach. Who was a female. And you're just i. I think it's something that the. Nfl is getting teams to do. And it's not and it wasn't just land either. I think there were two other games that we watch where they had it. I wanna say the panthers. Or i want to see the panthers. Believe uniform to the yeah. I don't think it was tennessee. 'cause they wore the white this last game. But i'm it's up. I'm gonna watch regular season. Yes and we asked all y'all there listening to this keep an eye on it. Let's figure out what it is Molly said that she thought it was the glaziers darcy. You know 'cause she's into that that kind of stuff and she wanted to portray. The buccaneers are very. What's the word equality women friendly as well you know. We got the red women and rent women red. So you know. We're we're big into that stuff. And bruce arians is big into it but From what. I'm seeing really starting to pay attention to it with the other coaches in the league. Having the female assistant coaches around them seems like it's something the nfl has said. Hey you know we want women coaches and we want you to put them on camera. We want them around the coach. So that when we show the coach you see the female. There's what kind of objectify god. Yeah it's all legal. The nfl in low social media had put out a thing today saying that fifteen or sixteen of the thirty two teams now have women female coaches and they hoped to have it up to thirty two by next year. So it's definitely something that they're pushing. Its appeal campaign. so there's that That's the follow up That she might be the get back coach. So we're gonna keep an eye on them next follow up. I was talking about a boxing. And how marvin hagler and sugar ray. Leonard used to go at it. I mean they were you know. They swapped the bell back and forth but there was a third guy. I couldn't remember. His name was the the best boxing match. I've ever seen was marvin hagler vs this guy in. It's it's considered one of the best boxing matches and it's tommy hearns. That's the guy. And he fought with sugar ray leonard and he fought with with hagler like a champ. I mean it. Was it really good boxing. But because hagler and sugar ray were just a little bit better than him he never got the belt you know. And if he would if it wouldn't have been for those two he would have been the the champion for a long time. That's what i'm saying. Competition means everything. You know your competition. The establishes who you are where your position is you know it's it's all about your competition and you don't see that in nfl stats you. Don't see the for instance devon white. Was it last year. He had three sack game. And don't get me wrong. I love and i think he's great. What those three sacks were not real sacks to awful more because the quarterback slid and he didn't cross the line in devon white just walk over and touched him and then the third one he was even nobody blocked him and he just came free. So you know you go. You know others really sexy to really beat. Anybody didn't do anything so i mean on paper. Yes he got three sacks but in reality it's not like i'm not trying to make us look bad but you go. The sex don't mean as much as somebody that blows through defensive lineman in running back to get to the quarterback on third down but the minute left to go in a game. So that's what. I'm getting away with all that competition matters. You always gotta look at competition when you evaluate people. Who are they going up against. And that's that's why. I say that the last year buccaneers with the best football teams have been because of our competition in the playoffs. You know the redskins and they they were although they gave us the hardest. Most difficult time we went up gets drew brees. We went up against aaron rodgers and we went up against patrick mahomes. And it wasn't just three quarterbacks. That was those. Were really three elite level teams. We want them beat him all. I'll note that's ever happened. I don't ever recall it ever happen. You know we did it. All on the road except from homes with plato in the whole field advantage. Well now we just destroy them. We would have done that anywhere. They could have healthy offensive line and they could have had all their coaches. They could've everything could have been going right for them and they would have gotten beat by twenty five points instead of now. Yeah thirty like we did all right. That's it for the fact checks and follow ups. Let's get into some stuff man. Okay what cover some news first. And then we'll talk about training camp belknap. Good okay aright. I can't remember if i talked about out this on. No i didn't okay. So the panthers traded offensive taco greg. A little to the dolphins in exchange for a seventh round. Pick so we've got that So we talked about deshaun watson acting vows. Another follow up deshaun watson. The fbi is getting in on the investigation and someone commented that it's because of sex trafficking that's the angle that the i house so we'll see how that plays out Which could mean anything. Sex drive is one of those laws. That is extremely broad. When you think sex trafficking you think of dino de people grabbing kids and selling them a shipping container know but it's not if you a frequent a prostitute or in escort you can get arrested for sex trafficking levy's son. He got arrested for sex trafficking and the thing that he was pimps out on. That's what again trouble for They've just rebranded prostitution. Yeah well we don't really know the lovey because it never with the court so we didn't get evidence we don't know what the facts are in the case but barely wasn't that big of a deal. He got probation and a fine of fourteen hundred dollars or restitution fourteen hundred so you know it sounds through sex trafficking but you know. He could be charged sex trafficking just because he's paid somebody for sex right. Like robert kraft where he went into the Heavy end massage place. And that's what they were trying to get him for Yeah it's it's a. It's one of those big scary headlines that when you look into it you go come on. That's not let's not sex trafficking okay so we waved safety raven green who he's been injured the whole camp and apparently he was in green bay before he came to tampa and that was the criticism of him there too. I've always injured so. We waived him and that. We signed off offensive lineman brennan walton from the steelers. Good can't have enough offensive linemen. I know It'll be interesting to see the pittsburgh steelers this year held. They're gonna do. I think they're on their i. Climb eight out hanging on there. But you know mike tomlin like he always pulls it out on their always playing tough and competitive and especially with their division opponents into love that division has game. They're always good even when the browns. But now it's like the bengals even the bengals kind of put up a fight. The new browns. The bengals are the new brown. Say oranges new black. So orange is the new brand. The thing about. I like with the steelers because again we say this all the time. Yeah this is all entertainment on. The steelers are very entertaining football team. They have been my whole life. I was a steelers fan. Growing up. big swan Lambert all those guys. I was big. I was big fan. Oh well i just love that rivalry. We've talked about before. I grew up in maryland and actually in fact Well everyone was superman about the colts for like a long time mount. My dad's still will not anything to do with the colts but The ravens kind of became a thing after a like in my lifetime. Like i was born when the ravens came to town and so i grew up. You know in that area was either. You are redskins fan or a ravens fan. My family kind of fell more the raven side of it but so i grew up just like hating the steelers and didn't really matter when team you liked you just have the steelers so does totally good with and so. It's i love that rivalry. I love once. Not i will always i love that. They always have those games on prime time. You know there's a good chance you're gonna see in. Afc order they the north sea north if north game or two or three on prime time and they're always phenomenal so usually very physical physical. They're talking shit. They're biting you know and it's just it's football that football. Yeah that's one thing. I like about both pittsburgh and baltimore is they. They're tough the pushing the mouth football. They're hard football. I liked that it's da was raised. Yeah football i watch growing up. I think the pittsburgh area and like parts of maryland. A very similar similar culturally and So i think. I think actually remember deadspin doing those articles why your team and they were basically said in one of those articles about either the steelers the ray events. They're basically like the same white trash on both sides in the family. Clever people so. I just love that rivalry and so it's fun and yeah i do think i think the ravens have been on a downward slope as well Kind of along the same lines as steelers but they always seem to pull it out. You know so I don't think they are with eight once were but there's no they're fun to watch what we're we're going to try to make this a Afc north circle high talking smack. Talk a good stuff about them. Let's go back to the nfc south real quick though that made me think you talked about the y. You're team sucks. Articles i have. I don't remember recall. We had him last year. Or what was going on. That i remember they. They used to be really funny but they got they just got being. Yeah would appears like they're at the defector dot com. now in the deadspin isn't dead spend defunct. I thought it went on. I think it got well. I think there was a whole bunch of drama in the news room where they there was kind of infiltration in the newsroom and they tried to turn it into something that it wasn't host be so i i haven't even bothered to walk because i'm like i'm not interested and yet it did get kinda miano but towards the end our. Let's bring it back to the nfc south. We talked about how kayla bene- knock was signed by the bills while he apparently is michigan and he didn't make that in last too long so the saints were working out with him. I we covered this on the news and the saints signed kalem. Been anoc so he is. Reuniting which davis winston atkin orleans. I'm sure davis had ptsd. He saw k. Eleven he got the happy features looking at him. I know Oh here's some horrible legitimate Dick vitale famous bucks fan. What does the nfl nba Announced that he has melanoma some. That was it's not too bad bad kind. But he's so old you young bucks everybody over the age of thirty as old come on. He's ninety pat old so the panthers in training camp prayers to dick. You're covered buddy. Panthers in training camp. Rookie davey on. Nixon had two interceptions during training camp. The panthers record for all time interceptions by defensive. Tackle is to guess who did it. Oh i know the answer. This new twitter Brenston buckner brinson coach coach. Buck found that meet little tidbit of information now. The refs admitted they screwed up on that trial penalty. I love that yes. We were watching in the current and the referee and trial and had a So the refs came up to try on after the penalty where he got the putting his weight on the quarterback penalty and me and molly listening to it and we said you know the it sounded like they kind of politics but then it didn't at the same time waiting out. It was posted the clip today on social media. That had the audio a little bit better and it was it was. It seemed like a better. But they definitely said that they screwed up they. They told him that they screwed up. They said that was a good hit with screwed up on that one. What here's the thing is that you can like pick up the flag so ten me. It seemed like they through the flag. Then they just decided to stick with it and though dissenting voice in the huddle who probably got overruled by everybody else is sounded to me like he was apologizing. I think. I think we probably screw that one up but i think the others in the hull disagreed. He's got overruled somehow and That's what i don't know we. You know the referee committee sends out two teams when they have screwed up calls. I'm pretty sure but not one hundred percent sure about this. Pretty sure they will send out two teams if they screw up a call after the game when they do all the review and then stuff they'll send out two teams and say here are the calls. We messed up on and i would like to see that. I think they should do that every week. An accountability sheet by the referees. So not you know saying the the the calls we messed up on for every team and release it It should be an event that we keep staps on refs stats. Keep stats on refs. You know so this rafters got twelve bad calls. Whatever that'd be per game right there torment There were Officials at the bucks practice yesterday to are now on the seventeenth with earlier. In the week or scrimmage against tennessee. Yeah i guess it was monday So that that's the first time it happened at camp wonder how much they get paid for the the refs i now and get the team. Bears the expense pro split between the two teams. But yeah the they hire and bring a win so the boys feel comfortable with official rafts. And not the coaches out there as you know how that'd be like every play your team. The tennessee titans held our goes. Oh ready to talk about camp. Okay so the bucks who were held out of practice thursday include senator john molson which. Oh my gosh. Why do lyman keep getting hurt. Stop it stop it Cam gill still al. Travis johnson out. We made pope and her hudson. Peter hudson still out dude. Come on now though. Tyler johnson Leonard fournette ronald jones. Oj howard and grunk were all without shoulder pads in the morning. But they didn't a plane. So i don't know what this from pure report and then Devon white levante. jp shaq barrett also didn't have pads on this morning but I know Dave devon white was definitely playing because there were a bunch of fights are practice today. thursday and So funny because we were just talking about that in the last podcast. How we we love the fighting. We we get five of today. Be a was like you know he was talking all this ship before the joint practice like. Oh we're not gonna tolerate any fighting and today so the big. The one that started it was antonio brown. Voter was the first one. Yeah antonio brown and ona let me Chris jackson defensive back for the titans and in. I don't know what happened. I think in turn around smoke the dude and you but anyway it ended with Antonio brown took the guy's helmet off and landed at haymaker right on the job to write as much in it there's the most beautiful creature textures with it right there and Who's great i love. It love it and he did and up. They had him like walk off the field. Like go cool it down. And then he came right back and smoked up again and now and then bruce arians said that he was like. Oh i just saw pushing shove out there. And then he then he said he was a swat and flying coach Yes yeah okay. So then him. That was the first fight then. We had There was a fight between wide receiver. Fred brown on the titans and herb miller. Herb ended up on the bottom bottom bitch and extravagant. So yeah round was on top of miller and he will report saying he would not be pulled off. So i don't know what happened there. And then another Somehow devon white got into a fight. And i don't know there was a k. J. brett fight and a titans player and they were saying the peter reports that they had to be separated. But then devon why. I think this might have been the one that devon white was in and apparently there was a whole pile up. He was in the middle. He picked up a player and suplex. Tom and then he had to be pull away. And after the fight after practice he had a press conference where he said. He saw one of his teammates in trouble so he just had to get in there and help him out. Mint leaves teammate. And then the last fight was. I don't know who jeffrey simmons's on one of their defensive players on the titans would not let go for net after a play so ryan jensen got an a space of currently and It this from pure report took both units to pull them apart. Though you know you know jensen had to get in on one of them. He's just so physical or just he'd love confrontation man. Oh i love it so much and god this picture. If you have not seen this picture of antonio brown on tweet it right now you guys can go look at it. It's amazing and it's just. It's just incredible and I i didn't know this louis murphy is out there really when i wanna yeah louis murphy is former buccaneers receiver. I wanna say. He was with us through the josh freeman days. Wasn't that long of and he is a summer assistant coach with the buccaneers. So he was actually there. He's in the picture trying to break up. Antonio brown's other guy he's right there so it was an also good great day. It was an way it gets better because not only did we whipped their asses there. We also smoked in practice. Like the coaches. Were not thrilled with how they did on the tennessee side Even Variable was say was talking about how they were and you know yesterday detains had a pretty good day in practice. Drops and her yell. When's the bucks. Receivers had a lot of drops like peter report with whining about and then Apparently brady got picked off a few times and it was just now the best day for the buccaneers I wouldn't say probably worse. I don't know i wasn't there but not the best day But apparently today the bucks were like yeah. We're not going down like that. And they just went off in practice. I reading on the titans website. They had an article out about it and they just rateable raoul's happy in his press conference. They noted that they weren't able to pick brady off at all watches. Pros go rhino having a good day. So i'm very happy to hear that Louis murphy played with us. A two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen okay. So it was way after afternoon. Freeman that the lovey smith days. Yes okay so what else we have. The he was in the league for nine years. Two thousand nine the two thousand seventeen years house crazily. We followed him on instagram while ears. We're not gonna see hanes. -i the offense. Yeah he doesn't. He's not gonna play saturday but ba said he hopes he'll be ready for the third game. Okay and he is a backup center. Yeah and we just got him yeah. We drafted him. I wanna say second or third round. He's pretty safe as far as cuts go. This is deja vu all over from like two years ago. okay Okay so let's talk about this game coming up against the titans. what are you watching four on. The buccaneers side will blend. Gabbard is going to start as quarterback. Tom brady is not gonna play. What am i looking for Offense of line. Of course i would imagine that there is so painful if people The titans they did not have their starters play week one so what we were watching the second-string and as we talked about before atlanta and tennessee bo that was like their offense of why optional they were getting destroyed both teams so i expect more of that blink average going to be running. Whoever their quarterback is is going to be running yeah for sure they have a Back number thirty two thing. What's his name. He was good. He was up against the falcons. He he got off. Some pretty nifty moves. I liked him and his name is going to come to me as soon as i get. It pulled up soon as a dare darren evidence. Yeah so he's a handful and it looks like they're if preseason any any indication preceding one game. They're still going to be a running team you said. They got rid of their offensive coordinator. He is now the head. Coach of the atlanta falcons. So but they're going to change much. They're just run first team. And now they got this evans with brian hill. Back back negative up. So they They've got sick seven running backs on their roster right. Yeah so her. They're definitely a run first team so expect us to be challenged in that area and this is going to be a pretty much are string guys. I what about the rest of the first team guys. We know brady's not gonna play but does that. Mean he's not gonna have any of the first string guys out and yeah. I don't think so. So we're gonna wait 'til a week three for them to plagued which is so weird because tennessee a hell all their guys out last week. So are their starters going to start in. This is what we weird is that. I can't find it anywhere whether they're going to start their starters or not for us or them and that titans. Yeah i would imagine they would hilt. I don't know. I don't know we'll found out ramps. Yeah another thing. I want to look for is our special teams are returned and are kicking slippery and said lanta. Yeah yes very much. So they had guys number eighty rogers and number twelve well. Kinley was his name. They were both his great eighty. Got a sixty five yard punt return it. It wasn't an easy one either. These guys are pretty shifty in plus we gotta watch suck up. He missed he. Got four out of seven today sir. Yesterday i don't really care about these guys. Preseason reutgers at that much i mean. Maybe we showed. Isn't that how we got burned by aguayo. We've been burned before by kickers. Not even just to go i. Oh all of them. Like since ryan matt ryan met brian matt ryan met brian Titans cornerback janoris jenkins. Remember him he's in. He's on the titans now. Used to play for the saints. He's the one that got. Pick six against tom brady. He's going to be playing these. Titans i don't know if he'll be playing because he's a starter but did you know his name is jack rabid. That's what he goes by. Jack ramat he will not let you call him janoris. Oh really yes yes. The there was a he he got. He was interviewed on. Tv by one of the one the sideline reporters. I can't remember which one and she called him generous and he corrected her initiative again. He corrected them again and he was like names jack rabbit. I don't go about your doors and the team tennessee. Titans have his listed on the team as jack rabbit serious about that nickname. I've never seen anyone sincere about nickname. Nickname you just go buy it. But you still answer by your roy. I i don't have this weird and it's not like even a nickname that he got from some extreme circumstances it was just what he was called in. College buys coach or his high school coach. Whatever it is just stuck with him but it's not. I don't think it's his legal name. I don't think he's changed it to jack rabbit. Well and here's my question. Do they abbreviated to jack. Then it's like a normal name mountain jackrabbit jack. I don't know get mad at you. Know what can there. He's been in the league for a while. This is probably his last. Stop tennessee. titans The they'll know if he's gonna play but s can be interesting to see. You know i i wanna bling gabbard get out there and throw some little bit more honestly more. Trask in a track track. I liked to trask. I'm sorry i know a lot of people didn't but just from what i saw. He had great pocket presence and he was throwing bombs dot com perfect and edges excites me. I think it's impossible to judge anyone particularly a rookie by their first. Preseason appearance is just not really fair. And i know a lot of players get done that way. Because it's just the nature of the business and the best system that they have but especially for Draft pick baikal. Trask he can't he can't. It's sad i want to see him again. And again i just wanna keep seeing if he he holds up and maybe maybe put him in a game. Every now and then tom brady of break. Or whatever Blaine gabbert. we know blaine gabbert. We know what he is. We know who he is So we're gonna see that. I want to see a was darden. Yeah i really wanna see out there. Yes i want to see a win. I know preseason. Nobody cares about wins. Idaho i wanna win. Yeah you don't want to go into the regular season lose preseason games that never works out good. Ptsd from that so Try on. I wanna see him some more you know. He's exciting the linebackers. I am so disappointed in came. Gail i really am you know. I think i think it might be. You know they draft. Try on and i think it was just like are you serious. I will never get playing time. So maybe he's just he's waiting to be moved to another team or whatever but i don't i you get a hamstring as needed. Whatever but you know if you're not going to go out there on the practice field that you're gonna get cut you know this especially when there's five guys ahead of you who are all good. If you don't put stuff on film out there and show your just it's sad. I'd say yeah. So oh tanner hudson reality. he's gonna blow it up. He's got that wrist injury holing. What if he does probably won't even yeah probably won't. He's missed two practices this week. Well in you wonder too if ba comments kinda got to him. I don't know he's the perfect example. Just like cam. Gill you've got four tight ends ahead of you if you count macelroy You could say go roy. And -tainer hudson here at the same level but you got three anyhow yet three tides ahead of you that are gonna make tv and there's one spot may be that you're fighting for your flight into with two other guys for it and you're not gonna go out on the practice field you know what's up. Say what's this state of. The coach was everybody to me. That's a i give trade me get released me go to another team. You know indian kind of you. Can't blame these guys you know because they wanna play they wanna get out there you know get contracts get the big money all the good stuff and they know they're not gonna do it. They're not gonna be able to do it on rt cam. Gill would have to have two guys in front of hill. Basically go down with injury before he would get a shot to get serious plan time. You know and same thing with dana hudson last year. he only got a handful of plays Because we had Gronkowski -brate jay howard were in front of oj. Howard went down a bright ended up getting hurt for a couple of games there. And so -tainer hudson got to go in. Of course he didn't show anything when he went in he actually played pretty badly but You know to to sit there and think. Wow oh i'm going to bust my butt on this team practicing in this heat and you know one might not make the team just because or two if you do make the team. I'm not gonna get any playing time this year. You know a single nature of the business. I mean the plane time issue. Yeah i can see that we're that would be an issue but would you rather be on him with no plane timer limited playing time or just not be on a team that's alternative. They're hoping that other team will pick them up. But it is a very big gamble. You know and i don't think it's right these guys you got to be like a wolf man. You gotta be a take advantage of you. Gotta you gotta wait for your opportunity and it calms. You gotta take advantage on. I think tina hudson didn't do that last year. He had his opportunity. He didn't take advantage of it But still did not you know to try again this. You gotta do it man. You got to just sit there and wait because you never know it happens all the time where you know two or three guys in a unit will get hurt and in the next man up. -tainer hudson might have to start five games as i string tied in. You never know so you know you got to these gotta be like a spider waiting and for your opportunity to pounce in a way we've seen it. How many times have we seen it. We're guys they're just like a. I don't wanna play here. Because i'm gonna start so they go somewhere for hardly tell you how many people didn't want them really try here because they didn't want to be with the buck because you know we were coming off a twelve season or seven to nine them so that now though is it. We the rain chairs. Little which i loved in that tennessee. Titans article from the team website. They talked about how we were the defending champs and they were glad to see guys up against the reigning champs. And you know that caliber of opponent. Now we don't normally talk about like this. No height been a long time. Yeah the we are measuring state. You know. I mean it's the everybody that plays us going to want to beat us just so that they can say. Hey we beat the champs you know. We are the best team you know. Some people still think the chiefs are but always always the idiots but everybody's coming at us with their a game they're going to have to and they were good. They're going to want to be able to have that on their resume. We'd be tom brady. And the champs you know oh did you see that The cowboys they're saying dak prescott probably won't even play until the regular season. He's not gonna play any. Preseason that's so they gonna get Jp shack baron gonna give you a nice welcome back to the of. That's cabrillo preseason laying on your back hurting. Oh my goodness. That's going to be such a fun game. we're just going to beat a mess out of our. because i really do feel like. I mean. Just the interviews. I've seen with these guys. And all the stuff i've heard and watching them play in third practice did you. Did you see chris. God with what hand catch now. Oh my god. The guy was draped on him. I thought there was no way he was going to catch that. And he just like the ball lane did right like right in the bread breadbasket combat just like stuck his hand out and called it like a nothing like another you. You heard all the fans that were watching it. Just go who look. It was amazing tyler. Johnson who was chris guy i saw there was a tyler johnson. One-handed catch today. Oh no are you serious. Swore it was chris connor. I don't we'll look it up. We'll factor it. I wanna see the video that you're talking about so but my point behind all that was something else that i've totally forgot what i was talking about. The euro ever. Who as i don't know started. I was like oh. The chris wouldn't catch before then i was running mouth about something or just destroy everyone. Well oh no our team. Our team seems extremely fired up to prove that that last year was not a fluke. I they seem like they're chomping at the bit to get out there all. And that's what they said about today. It seemed like tampa was very fired up and they didn't like how practice went did. It was a wednesday and then thursday. They came out there. Were just absolutely animals. Are we good. Antonio brown's rip helmets off a bunch of people in the face. You jensen's out there devon white body slaying. Mba's like there was slot fly little grin on his face too he was a swatting flies. My gosh So mike rabaul and teammates the head coach of the titans our liberal when fable play. I mean i remember it. Well he played for new england from two thousand one to two thousand eight so they have three rings together him. Tom brady and apparently the last time the patriots and the titans had a joint practice and that was in twenty eighteen Tom brady had a little mini trophy. Made for raval because during the regular season that Titans beat the patriots are maybe that was during now that one. During the playoffs it was during the regular season and then the patriots went on to win the super bowl so tom brady was trolling. Was well tiny trophy. You gotta love it. It's a tom brady. Got a good sense of humor. Seemed like james harrison was on pat. Mcafee the other day and he was talking about you know. He played for the patriots briefly with tom. Brady i think a year maybe two years and he said i really wanted to hate tom brady but i could not can't him. Yes i feel like. That's how most fans in the league are. You wanna hate the guy but you know at the same time. you're watching. Probably the best athletes ever played a sport seventy people who cannot even acknowledge they do. They hit brady's arrangements would they they will. They will once he retires. Then it seems like that's when everybody acknowledges things but You know it's. We're living in a time that the nobody's ever going to beat this. You know it really is a spectacular out thing. We're witnessing it'll never happen again in sports. I know you just watch him. And you're like this is just. I mean the things that he does to a team to bring team together like look what he did to the buccaneer. He just completely changed the culture and you know we went from a team and be just as we went from team whose constantly beating itself constantly to nothing can stop us. We were just unstoppable. And i think you know you don't do that without tom. Yeah leadership is a big thing. And i don't think tom brady is a whole raw raw type leader and he's not the type of leader that was all about. I lied through actions. You know the client type. It just seems to be a very confident. Technical do All that good stuff. But he's got this leadership quality about him that the tangible now jameis winston did not have that Josh freeman definitely didn't have it. I mean josh freeman. He was embarrassed to be in front of a microphone. Heaves a really shy guy and all that good stuff and this one of the things with leadership is it's there's a lot to leadership one of the big things is that any group that follows a leader that has a leader that group takes on the characteristics of the leader. It's just how the world is. You know they'd happen to the animal kingdom at in the with humans it happens with sales. You know leadership is is infectious and tom. Brady's very technical and he's very a competitive. And you know james. Winston was very goofy. Is the word i'm going to throw out there. It's what he's always. Strict struck me as goofy and you saw that with us and our seen it we saw it with the saints. Preseason game when he was in there that the other all the other players start making these weird mistakes you know like the running back that fumbled you know they run into each other and then the run bax tripping up and the nita's boot. Fumbles the ball out. Contagious it is. it's contagious. Leadership is contagious. And you know now that you're brady came. It's it's everything seems to be very Like clockwork you know. You're not getting a lot silly mistakes and dumb stuff. And i think that's what brady has brought the professionalism. They you know show up to work. He d job bub-bubba. Yeah i. he's just raised the standard said. The bar is so high so high and to me. Like i don't wanna be that guy that's in there. You know making my team with tom brady on it. Look back guy. Yeah you know you know. It's not gonna be tom brady. Now when jamie's wisdom's a quarterback everybody knew he screw up who's gonna throw interceptions. Make silly play is now. I mean he had some great plays. But you knew it was gonna make some mistakes with tom brady. You don't get that you don't get you go if we lose his game at engel because tom brady and when he did lose us one game last year and that was when he forgot what down it was an chicago game. So we're at but you know that. Be tom brady. Y you lose a game and so you don't wanna be. The guy game was lost because of in half. Tom brady comanche later and be like. Oh dude what are you doing well. Yeah i don't wanna. I don't wanna disappoint tom. Brady trying wanna disappoint any no. I'll bet bruce arians doesn't want to disappoint tom. Brady that'd be probably the worst thing in my life doesn't pointed out really never forget that he be thinking about you. Know the shower thoughts on the done. You'd have it in your tune stone. it'd be like greatest regret disappointing. Tom brady absolutely yeah. I wouldn't even wanna be around the god because you'd be scared of disappointing game and then that'd be all you thought about for the rest of your life pressure so much. Probably i'd be worried about. Am my shaking his handwrite. Is this good i. I don't think i could speak to be nothing. Couldn't do it sweating jammie when wanna shake his hand 'cause Clammy i had that happened to me with one celebrity and it was a. I guess you could say. She was a b. c. c. celebrity. You know not not famous at all. See lift yeah probably and I'd i bumped into her. Didn't expect to see her. And i just got tongue tied i could. It's never happened to me before. And but she she's always had special place in my heart she's got the crying scene of any movie Once we're warriors say went to maybe is this once were warriors new zealand movie. Great movie great great. Great movie Anyhow so. I'd probably be like that. What tom brady to. How could you not think about at the training camp because we went for your burns a three years ago and we got to meet all up a lot of the players and it intimidating you know are we. We saw j. P. and mike evans sean jackson was there. And you know all these high profile players they are and you know. I didn't really have an issue with any of them. But can you imagine like vienna. Practice and tom brady comes over to talk to sign autographs. Stuff verse vol there'd be a stampede libyan absolute madhouse. I wonder if he does it. If any of you have been at camp this year. I don't think they're allowing. Oh they're not not doing. There's no interaction with the fans. You have to keep Keep they're not doing all. Yeah okay that makes sense. Unwashed masses the unclean. Yeah the non-essential clay goodness people germ foams. So do you think you think that the physicality that was shown at practice yesterday with the fights. Do you think that that's going to carry over into the game. Hell yes it well particularly for all the titans players got bitched up. They don't wanna go out like that. Are they gonna play cigarettes. No but i think that energy that should be. I think it'll be on chippy. Antonio brown's out there going. I'll give a thousand dollars anyway. That new or they're at least gonna talk shit about an wouldn't you heck would be a fun game. I said we watched the atlanta tennessee game and it was a good game was a good game The the the titans see mike a pretty solid team yet again this year. You got a little bit of depth going i. I can't believe they've stack the running back room like that. Good lord i know. Let's get the saints. The saints got thirty five. Who you said he reminded you a kamera and he except he's the seems bigger and stronger that camera. I was like man. Come on the do that like a team. That's got three good. Quarterbacks do it or so why receiver room or rushers. Scher's ooh offensive line or defensive. Line my goodness okay. What else you got to admit that you wanna give a prediction on the game saturday. Yeah now though. Yeah sure we on spot do hush okay link gabbert. Starting ago a seventeen to sixteen buchan nears he'll close on Low-scoring fair new. You're probably right. you're probably right. yes. I'm gonna go with Twenty sixteen buccaneers. All right. got it okay. There we go. We didn't do on last week now. We didn't we're still getting preseason for us to. We're still doing about it last time but can speak up so we should start keeping our meek. Our record public have a score sheet at the end of the year. Yes yeah. I'm gonna try not to you know. I always pick the bucks. I'm gonna try not to do that this year. I think. I said that last year too but this is so hard for me. I'm gonna try to be dead serious about mixes here. you know. Do some serious analysis. And i'll tell you guys the game pass right now. Don't don't sign up for it. It's a mess. How am i if you haven't if you're thinking about it just is wait It's a mass. But you know there's no all twenty two has no coaches film. There's no place election it's very very basic and they better bring it back because if they don't you know i'm dropping had service so a reason why i got it is for all twenty two But i had some clips. I wanted to pull up and it took me about twenty minutes to get three clips. Because i had to find him in the game you know instead of being able to just go. It's you know at eleven forty seven in the third quarter so annoying. I just don't understand how this happens every year. How can make are they hiring the same trash developers every year the issue they got some microsoft developers up in there. They they're definitely not listening to fan feedback. I can tell you that. Why would they sell the crap ana anyway above us here. Yeah all right guys. That's going to wrap it up for us till next time.

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[047] Molly and Ralph talk about Gerald McCoy, new rules, and other happenings with the Bucs and around the league

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[047] Molly and Ralph talk about Gerald McCoy, new rules, and other happenings with the Bucs and around the league

"Aw. On this team. We ourselves and everyone else around US Cup pieces for that. Ails. Because we know when we all those inches. That's gonna make a difference. Welcome to the bucket here. Desert pod. Kansas row Phillips today is March twenty eight two thousand nineteen six forty two pm anything force. Well, hold on before we start. We will do our follow. Checks. Follow up. The fact checks. Let's see follow. Jake Matthews is still the starting left tackle for the falcons. He signed a five-year seventy two million dollar contract with Atlanta in two thousand eighteen is average annual salary was fourteen point five million dollars. So yes, he is still the starting left tackle for the falcons. Can't get an we've only got one you left tackle in the division Acura line. That was the point. I was making last high counts. Okay point. Well, taken fact check we'll still on the team. I thought that I know that I was gonna say here, but check it later. Guess what? Here we are here really doing our crime. What? We were your fans we have a microphone as far as our credibility goes. Yeah, he signed a five year twenty seven million dollars contract with the bucks in two thousand seventeen but his guaranteed money is already done. So he's scheduled to make three point seven five million in two thousand nineteen I could cut him with no cap hit. Yes. So we could radically. Yeah. Probably come coming. I don't know. They might just cut the whole defensible JP Jerry McCoy Golson. Now, he's cheap Cairo Noah Spence is he going to play this year? I think so I wish somebody would tell us what's going on with that situation. But apparently brewers are hill and Buckner did not get along. Yeah. That's I think Pete report said that was an issue there bucks fan said he had some personal issues will whatever it is very very strange for such a high draft pick to basically be benched for two years rarely played. Yeah. Really he'd be three or four snaps game just about and then some games he was inactive very very strange because he's one to watch game. This guy could be elite, but he's gone nowhere. Nothing. He's not even getting snaps. I think that's gonna change. I think Brazilians is gonna come in here and bowls and they're going to sit him as an outside linebacker safe thing with the Seib NASA. And they're just going to go to town just rushing cornerback. Yeah. I think so too goal stood might be defensive tackle they might move into defensive kind of rate size. He's bigger. Too big to be linebackers in three or four. They're bigger and taller JP's build. Taller and leaner, not a small. As is. We have right. Here's a way, I think is going to be I think it's going to be Buchanan and David or it'd be the it's the middle of bags whatever you wanna call them. And they were going to have a rotation was Shaquille Barrett. Nasu Noah, Spence, and some other for probably gonna get kept Minter will probably be its own in their beyond in. Although I think he will probably being a middle America. I don't know. We got a lot of options. There got the fill done on the Shaquille Barrick video done and everything by the time. You hear this podcast will probably be able to websites to go to the website. Check it out when Dave is. I just put I took one of the two thousand seventeen season against the chargers. And I just took each play. The Shaquille was on the field and did the game for that coaches film. So it's all in sequence. It's a whole it's just back to back every play. He was on the field. Though narration. I didn't wanna take anybody's viewpoint doing framing or anything that nature. So I just went there. Let you decide. Able to single say, it's it's not it's not as exciting as the highlight reels and the video where you chop you crazy music to it. Bam. See how awesome this guy is. He never music too, though, background music. It's. Fact, check bellawood Smith's autism walk as April twenty-seventh, not April twenty six ourselves. Show up a day early. You or? Affect chick Gerald McCoy is thirty one thirty his birthday is February twenty fifth. So he just turned thirty one. He was born in one thousand nine hundred eighty. All right. We should've known that. Because we follow it with a Twitter. And I think we've been wished happy birthday. No, I don't know because he's been off Twitter leaf. It's it's flooding area and say all this stuff about saying he's not quite as disruptive for years ago. And you haven't heard a thing from McCoy on Twitter, Instagram, nothing. I'm gonna talk about this in a minute. Okay. Let's continue with our followups full Jimmy Johnson play football. Yes. For the university of Arkansas raisin back Razorbacks raising. Shriveled up. Banks he played defensive lineman teammate future. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. On that work that clip from that speech. He gave fatigue makes cowards of all favor. Quip his nickname was Jimmy Joe pup because he never stayed down during football, practices or games. Interesting. Okay. No the follow up as it stands. Now. We have Michael Vicki and coal boozer behind. Donovan. Smith hail Kobe's. Exactly. Why is he not a starter with them beam? There's so many good nicknames. We can come up with this. I should be cooter. Kunar boozer. Boozer cruiser cruiser, the I couldn't find any information hill once over except for what college went to them never heard of him in my life. There's nothing on him. Well, it's interesting because I was reading that article Buchan ears dot com put out about Louis Blaine gabbert, and they have we have four quarterbacks on the roster. Tokyo, do so it's Winston Griffin now Blaine gabbert and Joe Callahan. Never heard that Joe character Joe Callahan. Joke. A Joe Callahan. Character joe. Is names. Jim I've ever heard of him meeting there. That's the thing off season. You pick up all these guys. They signed future contracts on this off probably won't even make. Yeah. Well, when we show what we went to practice last summer. It was in July, and there were subdued their number seventy one seventy two we had to read their numbers after they signed her stuff. They were. And I don't think they seat on the team a different story. He's been in the league since two thousand fifteen didn't know that. But he's been a practice squad warrior. He's been on the practice squad with Miami came to city Cleveland and Tampa Bay he's he was signed by the jets in two thousand sixteen but then Wade before the season started. So he never made their practice squad. So he's been with five he's been with five teams. Good. Good point. He played in one game for us in two thousand seventeen he took special teams snaps in that game. And he played in nine games in two thousand eighteen. So I was all excited. I was like check out his game. I don't remember all the the season. Look to my notes. I was like I don't remember seeing him any there because he only played three offensive snaps, but he played thirty seven special teams snap. So he's been a practice squad Oreo. Now, he's moved up to a special teams warrior. Those are the two guys behind Smith. Because maybe I was like freaking out because we got rid of west or he's the only backup tackle we have. I decided to fact check myself. It was actually to podcast ago when we're talking about the ongoing Hawkins and his dog in his facts. He had a little white fluffy dog. A photo was a it's a Yorkie. Yorkie that he was thinking about buying. So he didn't even have the dog. And then he's asking if I buy Yorkie can I carry it around in a bag? So he wasn't blocked the rent. I don't know. He was contemplating the purchase of the dog in the bag. He was pissed off at the dawn do that. You can't. He was thinking about buying the dawn saying, oh, he didn't have the don't have it on yet. Yeah. I don't know. I all the Andrey Hopkins tiny down. In a bag and nothing came up. So I would assume now see if like something he'd put on his Instagram. So there is my fact check apparently JC Cornell on Twitter is saying that we offered Moore's clayborn a league minimum deal. I read about that really surprises me because I wanted to draft him. And then he went to Dallas say crap to bed, but he just didn't live up to his billing he plays. But he got. A lot of pass interference call and he was injured all the time. So now here it is. He's got no team at wants. And he's getting offered league. Minimum. That's crazy for first draft pick pushing a cornerback. Yeah. Top ten right? Was that the drive to bear? It was so two thousand twelve. Yeah. And we have lot like a top three pick up seven bare was drafted seventh. Fact check follow so needless to say, he's not taking that must be hard. Just like about somebody offered you half nine dollars to play football. But I don't know. The quarterback for having care. But to these guys know they're used to get millions half a million felt them with that offer bright. So he's going to go at least a year without any money because he doesn't wanna take half a million. That's being a little entitled there think I guess, but if you think that you're a better player that might be an insult swallow your pride in this life. That's true. There's there's a lot of egos in football. Blaine gabbert we signed into a one year deal. Buddying Blaine would have. I know now information on is yet. I don't come out. I'm sure about a month ago. Maybe more we were talking about hug, Greg. She was gone to the patriots you pointed Al he hadn't signed anything yet. Well about an hour ago, Adam Schefter reported that Greg. She was stepping down very very strained patriots defensive coordinator, if he cited and need to spend time more time with my family and phase this'll always get out of a situation. I think he because he is very stolen devout Christian man, he believes in honor, and integrity, and blah, blah, blah. And it might be the stuff with craft where he's like just don't know if I can work underneath that. Yeah. I was kind of thinking too. It might be. I don't know who knows it's very strange because he goes from being defense, according to a higher state to give a shot at the NFL again back away from it and decide it sounds like he's not going to do anything for at least. A year because he was out for two years before he took Ohio State job. And you know, he's a football guy. He's playing out right? He doesn't have any hobbies nothing football as his life goes faith family football till he talked about all the time family football, his whole life. Now here it is. He's not going back in NFL to the championship team. Right. Hasn't donate. Again. It's a be to mentor under Bill Belichick like that is very strange stuff there the interest in a find out what that's all the buck sent on bowls to at Oliver's pro day, Houston. Okay. Draft there so much talk about their so argument today on Twitter about them and white or Devon Bush. Just garbage of coding half of the fan base. Yeah. Well, I don't I don't always think about college players. I I try to stay away from the draft mess because you've said this. It's a crapshoot. Yeah. You know, it's so rare if you could pinpoint a guy this guy is going to be a franchise player for our team for the next ten years. And you're right. It's so rare normally guys in the later rounds just time that clayborn drafted top ten I would love to do that one day go through all the draft picks and see where at the best players come from. I guarantee it's not the top guys. The vast majority of them probably come from made rounds member lane. Trim Richard Saint-Louis dramtic I over on. Where's he? I think. So where gene decor- off has been inducted into the sports club of Tampa Bay hall of fame. Fantastic. All of gene. His voice is. So I kind of with the buccaneers are like, we're Lacey. They when you're listening to game he used to do the all star Adrian turning. Great actually in the article are in the tweet about that. Everyone's doing their best, gene. Teen lines. Well, good for hill. That's a good honor good award to get he should get all the awards. I mean, he's doing this for thirty years. But the buccaneers all I know, I'm sure he's all I know as far as radio commentating. I've never heard anybody else to do it for the buccaneers hope. I never do be two. Fifty looks pretty. Well, not pretty old. Loved GM. Hope he stays the announcer forever. Thank you know lot. Like is the guy from Arizona does the radio now too. Cronk from empires. New who intern sounds like Jesse Ventura? That's funny. I thought it has been the first time I was like why Jesse Ventura doing the broadcasting for cardinals. Maybe it's not him. So last thing I have today, which we've talked about this ad nauseam extra. Rick Strahl Rick Cole name Tena out with a new article on June mccord's terrible. And this is a quote, and this is actually the times marketing was quote, okay? Enough of this charade rights at drown mcquaid isn't going to be with the bucks next season. The clumsy way the bucks of hand on his departure is just reminiscent of how the organization has always said goodbye to its stars. There's go that said, they were definitely keeping the buck. The clumsy way the bucks handle this. No, no, no, no, no, no, Rick. You have bungled this from the beginning. I mean, I don't even know how he can say put this on the box in any way right came out. And I think it was just being honest to God blessed? This is why coaches employers can't be this because the media jumps on bungling everybody. The media has been talking about how Aaron should have handled it. They should've taken McCoy to the side and talk to a privately not sent this out an open. I'm like, no, see. That's that's why these guys give us nothing but blank, scripted speeches and quotes all the time because you jump on them for every damn thing. And here it is areas has given us how he's thinking, which is what I want and the media jumping on him saying, he's bungling it up, and then he should have done it this way or that way. You should have said this well publicly about McCoy. They've been very consistent. I think extremely I don't know who he talk. To within new organization. I gave him this information that said that bowls in areas had valuated McCoy and thought he was good fit. But that's not on befalls in areas. Hristo that's Rix, John richer, quoted the source or these quoted somebody in quote, anybody just said that they said that McCoy could the system to quote him. And then he turns around and says general coy we'll be here in two thousand nineteen right now he's turned around. And he say do you ever coy is not going to be a book an ear two thousand nineteen and that is blaming the buccaneers inconsistency in his reporting. Yes. So get with it. Rick. This is why I get irritated with the media. In fact, here making organization look bad because of something that you've said that wasn't correct something that you report in its on him. It's not on the bucks replicate that nobody remembers how many how many buccaneer fans or? Even fil fans know all these dang reporters news. Have you read an article who pays attention to who's writing it? And what their history is. And who keeps track of how often they're wrong this stuff? I mean, how many buccaneer fans out there? No the dipping rich, ROY, Greg. And Scott Reynolds, Mike, cook TJ res market, generally Luque's, doing just ski Steve is bits two camper. All these guys. I mean, our Kaufman, you might know a couple of guys whatever. But do, you know, do you remember where you read an article from it who wrote it now, and they can't on that? They just everybody just a bunch of junk out there. And then when they gets up to the right they walk around like a peacock. But when they get something wrong, they blame their sources or organization whenever we gets hold. The whole McCoy saying it's going to be emotional for. I think a lot of fans it's going to be controversial. And there's people who aren't going to like McCoy's not gonna like it. I don't think I don't think he likes it right now. How was he would get on Twitter Instagram, say something? Yeah. I know he's been dead, quiet and actually. Shouts article. It said that that he hasn't been on social media at all that's very unusual for right because even in early offseason when there were rumors that he was getting traded or released. He was tweet cryptic stuff. Weird students. Yeah. He was tweeden. Right. So maybe there's more weight to it at this point in the game beginning, that's what makes flip ball fine all the drama. It's male soap opera. That's bad as wrestling. But. Speaking of which we talked on the podcast last podcast about CT in injuries and all that brought up the grievance industry. And I was like look it doesn't matter. We could get rid of all the concussions every single one of them. And they're still going to compla- once you open up the door for this mess. It's impossible to close it with NFL should have done. It was told him to F off where we play football. We get hurt. We'll get paid a lot of money to do it. We know the risk bub-bubba. And I said we could get rid of all the concussions all diagnosis, whatever. And it's doesn't matter though, move onto something else. It'll be neck injuries or ACL's or MCI or shoulder whatever they're just gonna keep on keep on funny thing. I wanna come today. I'm reading the Washington Times. They've got an article entitled Washington Post entitled NFL looking into high number of lower extremity injuries. They go hunting Arlington. They talk about how concussions dropped thirty percent, whatever. But now, the doctors and stuff. Going. Gee, it seems like there's a lot of knee injuries. Maybe we should start worrying about that. And what it was like ACL injury. And then foot in England juries him string and groin injury. Which those are funny to be the groin and hamstring because they're really easy to fake goes back to what Brett grime said in his wife podcast players fake injuries. So that they don't have to play and those are the big ones hamstring groin. Track stars get hamstring street and groin injuries. And that's not even contact sport. Quarterback was it that pulling him e-? It was a total non contact injury against the bucks. I think it was Matt Hasselback with Seattle way is like two thousand and nine or ten. It was here that they went to the play offs. And they went like seven and nine and that vision was just so weak. Yeah. The one that is the playoff, but he was playing the bucks, and you could see them pull in his. But later started limping around. It was enough. Contacted report was twitching. Torque fifty at the time. You're such an ages. I just found that very humorous that right after I talked about the the grievance industry and how they get their foot in the door. They never stopped. And all of a sudden, here's an article in Washington time, Washington Post of all places Claire safety is not anything to joke about. Now. Serious issue is. Okay. Well, it's just apple rap. That's also wrap up. Well, I also have this theory that if you wanna fix something don't depend on people to fix it. Make the equipment fix it. If you want there to be no, concussions and football. Don't institute a bunch of rules because that's just going to mess. Everything up. It's that whole engineering saying we're complex something is these break. That's the NFL rule system right now. She's way too complex to mass. It's broken. We should be designing equipment to take care of this mess. Don't depend on people to fix it. Get the to do it let these guys hit each other's want. I guess. Put them in bubble wrap. Something it's like we want a wasn't. I think it was at show about dogs. We want one time like a documentary, and they're going to study the dog part doesn't really apply here. But they did a study where they were gonna throw a ball to human. And they asked the person. Okay. What's your strategy for catching the ball? And they would explain what they were going to do. I'm going to run fast, then get up under it this or that most of them do what they said they weren't going to do they all had the same day. So it's like with the dogs. Do the same thing. The thing that was the point. But it's kind of the same thing was like teaching them how to tackle differently or whatever you can think that you're doing it a certain way, but when you actually execute it it's not necessarily what you thought you were doing. I mean, how many times have you been in a mirror and maybe had a pair of scissors trying to trim your beard, and it's you can't get it spot. You know? Trimming more and more and more trying to get it. Right. Like, eventually, you're you've shaved yourself. So it's a really hard thing to do to rely on the human mind, especially such a fast paced game things are happening. So quickly can't react fast. For a good point about the. I think it was frisbees catch frisbees. Yes. But they all everybody the humans and dogs line the frisbee up over the right shoulder and had it at a like a twenty degree angle. Everything was almost it was eight it was the point. And and you're probably right tackling probably the same way, and you got to figure these guys have been doing it some of them for twenty years. That's muscle memory at that point. How long have they been doing this? Same thing. I mean, they don't even think about what they're doing out there. And then but now they're having to yes could pull it. So they're having to change the way that they've played for years. All this muscle memory. They've got overcome their intuition. It's just missed up. It's going to really mess with the game and make it less enjoyable. I really think this whole crack that blocking is going to be a mess. We've got so many rules now that like you said are totally subjective. But they're they're totally confusing. Like, nobody knows what catches anymore. Nobody knows what pass interferences anymore. Nobody knows what intentional grounding is anymore. Nobody knows what a proper tackle is any more. You know, when receiver catches the ball. Can you tackle him? I don't know. The rousse. But I know I watch games they give blow to whistle and don't get. And you're like that's not what the rules say. Yeah. So now, we've got this crack back block. And it's like that's going to be. I don't know how they're gonna do it because it happens all the time in every game. He used to be just kickoffs. But now it's every play you cannot do that. I just don't know how to do it. I think they're being towards getting rid of the punts and kickoffs that's going. Yeah. Definitely they might as well. Good causes crafts pouring. Heck now last time you saw. What was the last time? You saw any action on a kick kickoff. And plus any accent that made it through not getting a flag. That's the thing. I mean, we had Sean Jackson return one touchdown called back around. Will another rule. The jazz me crazy is the hands of the face rule. I watch I watch a lot of game film. And I see all the time as one of the things about these rules when you when you institute a ROY just like what they law in the real world. If you're going down the road, and everybody's speeding doing seventy five miles an hour and fifty five and you're only when it gets pulled over. That's not Justice a selective Justice. And I see that in football all the time like Hanson the face these guys they get handsome face all the time in the live, and especially and doesn't get cold. And sometimes it does get called and you go he barely even touched his helmet, right? There is a worse. One in the last didn't get com. Yeah. So the more bruise you have the more that crap you're gonna have where. Calls and calls. It shouldn't have been calls. And just the more errors. There's going to be. I suspect probably get New York involved. More like have somebody reviewing the calls. It's an extra layer of bureaucracy. They're just giving the referee is too much influence over the outcome of the game. Yes. Well, I said that win wouldn't referee strike happened. And they basically gains over everything I was like, oh, that's a bad bad move. Because now these guys have way too much power. Right. Look at it. Now. They're retiring early going into damp Branca's booth and making millions of dollars a stepping stone. You get famous as a referee official. And then you go into the broadcast. How can we be next jeans territory? Here's the one on FOX. I can't stand him. What really? Yeah. Because he's wrong. Do you all the time? He's the one. Okay. This was so long ago. This was just free throw pass and Mike Williams in the end zone, and they flagged touch them. I think the one the game since the last second of the game. And what happened the New Orleans? Wasn't it might've been Carolina the defender. Pushed Williams out of bounds in zone. He puts him before. He caught the ball waves came back into the end zone and caught the ball, and they rolled it usually touching because I said Josh Freeman went outside the pocket once he got outside the pocket that the defender was allowed to make contact with the receiver. This was before the ball was around. But he wasn't was not outside the pocket and even so the receiver that the defender make contact with the receiver before Josh Freeman threw the ball out of the pocket. And here's a here's what really period me about that was did not replay it at all. It was like name over. That's it boom. You know, the debris cast they did not replay it. So you could see it was it was a period. But anyhow. You made a diagram like show in the whole thing. Yes. In confronted Parral -i Garelli with it. Same striving crazy. Mike Pereira, Harare, rare. Yes, we we confronted him with the diagrams and the drew up charge. It was just ridiculous. I was furious. I was like this was this was wrong with rob Ralph. How committed to the buccaneers. Yes. Prayer when he was confronted with the fact that Freeman was not outside the pocket the rest of our wrong, and he was wrong because he was in the broadcast biz Belton that nonsense. Yes, it he said. Well, he was Freeman was getting ready to go out of the pocket. That's what he said. That's what made the call. Okay. I was like, no that's not how this works. Yes. Say that you're wrong. So we're going to have a whole bunch more of that stuff. You're absolutely correct. The game is too much hands on the referees anymore. And we see it all the time where games and on bad calls. Well, see now. That. Speaking of that, they changed the room that you can challenge passer offense and defense pass interference for non calls in for calls. Actually, nothing thinking about it. I like this a lot of. Yes, they've Lebanon calls that are clearly pattern vari-, and they don't call them. And you should be able to tell if they're not gonna call on. They should be calling him. Although I do fear for my cabins on this because he gets. He's very good at very very good in the best Malini hot in that pass interference. Although he don't get called a quite a bit. He doesn't get called on it news, much shoe. So yeah, this is gonna hurt. Mike evans. Point. I didn't think about that. Right. But then you can challenge calls to kind of bit are complaint in the last years of that pass 'interference itself, subject them. So maybe this'll be as maybe a checks and balance to that. I sure hope so you know, Sean Payton is going to be pretty liberal with his challenge. Sean Payton's a do head. I wish we could challenge intentional. Grounding calls. Jubran seven game, at least minimal. He can't help any can't see over the line rails. Well, that's all I got you got anything else. That's about it. Not a lot of news going on past couple of days. So we figured we'd get up here and get on our soapboxes and give a little bit of the what what you know, primarily made these promises that we're going to do one money Wednesday Friday or following through with that commitment to do. I tried that was your phone. I'm spending this the blame game. So do you want Monday Sunday can out Monday. Hopefully, they'll be some information coming out. We've got voluntary people are gonna start coming into the one buck place players rookies and all that good stuff rookies that rookies here soon. I think he fires. The next week. We give a week early because. Yes. But these are voluntary, right? Yes. This is interesting areas talked about when he was asked about McCoy. He kept bringing up. I talk about players that are here. Don't ask me about players that aren't here if he shows up about stuff like that. He it sounds to me like front office is expecting jerem Cloyd to not show up for voluntary. Chance to prevent he wants to be here because he has not expect he's expendable this year. He's expendable Everton's. This is the first time in his career that he's glum head coach talk anywhere near about hills. And to he's had to worry about his job is the first time in his career nine years. So am Brazilians big thing too. Is that you have to prove that you want to be there. Yeah. That's how it should be. Right. And that's kind of an extension of the accountability thing. Sal, I wonder if he's giving McCoy that chance see if he shows up for it's all on mcclinton. They're putting McCoy's fate and his own hands. Hey, buddy, show us what you got show proved out that you want to be here. It is going to be interesting because I don't think McCoy has the huge market machine behind him that he used to have ever since he got rid of his agent he ever since his age it left. CA branch did his own thing McCoy stuck with his agent. I'm pretty sure I've got this somewhere. But anyhow doesn't have the marketing power past couple years behind him. So it'd be interesting to see how this falls out. I think as it stands areas got more good better platform than McCoy does to air his side. So when this all happened, you know, every everything turns out amicably if it does if the crap does hit the fan, both sides split is going to be interesting to see whose side everybody takes on based on who who has the bigger marketing platform right now areas does I think things fan base is more United behind which is unusual. Mccoy's never had that either. He's always been a bigger star than the coach. That's true. I just thought of this all these players that were signing there on one year prevent heels. What if that's a seam of areas regimes to prevent prove it down with it? I think it has more camps. But he could be probably that you can cut other people like all standing we talked about there's a smaller guys where you could cut four or five enough to pay rookies Maki McCoy. I mean, they haven't played out said they're get rid of either. That said, you know, we wanna make sure he wants to be here. And he's not as disruptive as he was especially for the price that we're paying for him. So it's not a done deal that he's gone. I mean, it sounds that way. But I think you're right. I think it's going to be up to McCoy. I think if he goes goes into the bills and voluntary workouts and stuff goes in there and shows he's always been a great practiser. There's no doubt about that. When the guy goes bust during practice if he does that and he shows areas that he really wants to play. I don't take cutting. Now, he said that in general to we want guys I want to be here. Interesting. So next week is going to be pretty interesting aspects of McCoy shows up for voluntary work. House and very well. Be just a numbers thing. I don't know. We don't know. Latian? That's what I run into numbers. Somebody has got to go somebody big break JP their money's already during teed. Right, right. Belly could trade them. Okay. We could train him doing Lindy's tied-in. Right. I think locked on bucks talked about that. Yeah. Well, somebody's got to go. There's no question about that break JP McCoy Golson. We've got a bevy of players that we release get rid of trade whatever, but somebody has to go, and there's might be areas going I wanna see who wants to play who's going to step up show up to voluntary workouts be in this building every day because that's what he needs. He doesn't have time to build this team. And now we're gonna win. Now. He's he's flat out said this we are trying to win. But of course, lovey came in and said the same thing. Be pretty. Galster, but I feel like areas the most committed to I don't feel like his lip service with him on either. I don't take he plans coaching for more than two three years. You know, I wonder also if along was this country for it's a four year with fifth year option. So four years I'm thinking he wants to be out of here in three spin that last year, collecting the paycheck, right and other point with McCoy. They could be using this as leverage to get him to restructure deal to that was just so I mean, he's never played not once has he played for under ten million dollars. Right. I mean, maybe correct it before he made six seven million in two thousand twelve and eight million in two thousand thirteen so he could go back to that level. It'd be right restructure is deal. Maybe he comes in. He shows anyone's to be there. And then they say, okay. Well, we can't afford to keep you the. So you've gotta re restructure your deal. Either way prove that move all McCloy. So we'll see what we're going to say. I rented you that. That's okay. All right. That's gonna wrap it up. 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