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We had four games that everybody thought were gonna be great and as it turned out, three of them were pretty good. One of which was a blowout. We'll get to all them here in a minute then of course we have our week 10 lines of five games that we're gonna focus on from our SI Sportsbook odds and then from there we also have the midseason awards that we have to get to as we are halfway home in the 2023 NFL season. Before we get to all that, let's welcome the other man of the tandem, Gil, what's going on man? How you been? Yeah, I'm doing well. Matt, as you know, I like to brag about my wins and complain about my losses and last week was a good week. I went 12 -2 with the picks but I am pretty disappointed that I betted against Joshua Dobbs. What a game, right? Unbelievable. I'm annoyed. You went 12 -2, I went 11 -3 and I feel like 11 -3 should have given me some bragging rights for the week and yet it did not happen. So I will say on the whole, our group, yourself, myself, Connor, Orr, Albert Breer, Mitch and John our editors and Claire, another editor of ours as well that does great work, I feel like everybody's picks have been really pretty good this year. There are some years you look at picks and go, oh my god, I'm barely above 500. Right now, I've got the sheep pulled up in front of me, so the best record is Albert who's 95 -41, went 11 -3 last week and then after that, Claire Kawana is right behind him with 92 wins and then in gold it says 87 wins and then it's myself, yourself, John and then Connor Orr at 75 and 65 pulling up the rear, so Connor's got to step up. Connor is bringing down the credibility of this entire group. That's not bad for last play, so 10 games over 500? His thing is, we all do our upset picks and he's done 50 upset picks. I think I've done like 16. So that's part of the reason, but yeah, the picks are good and of course people that want to can read those over at SI .com, we put them out every week. The editors are nice enough to put that together. All right, so last week, like I said, we had some great games. We had Chiefs Dolphins over in Germany and then we had Ravens, Seahawks, which we thought would be a great game, turned out to be a massacre, Late Window, Cowboys, Eagles, which was one of the wildest games I can remember seeing in quite some time and then of course we had Bills, Bengals at the end, the Sunday night game there and so like I said, we'll get to all those. Let's just start with how the day actually started. Over in Frankfort, Chiefs build up a 21 -0 lead on Miami. Miami comes back, makes it 21 -14. They had a couple drives at the end where they could have tied the game, even taken the lead if they went for two. They got into Kansas City territory both times, but both times ended up going backwards, lose the game. They dropped to 6 -3. Chiefs, of course, improved to 7 -2. Both teams go on their bye weeks. I'll So, let you set the stage here, Gilberto. What is it to you, is it more about the Dolphins that game or is it more about the Chiefs? It is more about the Dolphins because they can't beat a team with a winning record and don't tell me the Chargers are .500 and the Dolphins beat them. They barely got to .500, so I am concerned about the Dolphins, but I don't want to let the Chiefs off the hook, Matt, and I know you've been writing about this, but the Dolphins have been pretty average. It got to a point where now Mahomes is saying, yeah, we sting. We're pretty bad. Go talk about the defense. That defense is carrying us the entire season. You know what's kind of funny, Matt? This season, it feels like the team with the best defense might win the Super Bowl, and the Chiefs still have the best defense right now, it feels like, so it's kind of a weird irony, but you expect better from Mahomes and Kelsey, but the wide receivers, they can't create separation. And it wasn't for that awesome fumble, reverse play, whatever it was from Cook there. They would have probably lost a game there, but what's going on with the Dolphins offense? Averaging 17 points against the Bills, Eagles, and the Chiefs, so I go with the Dolphins there because I feel like the Chiefs could figure it out. It's halfway point in the season, they're just cruising by, and I think something will finally break out there, but I'll let you maybe talk about the Chiefs a little more. But the Dolphins, man, you're supposed to be the most explosive offense, highest scoring, and you can't even get a first down. It's like, do they have too many home run hitters? Too many touchdown makers? How about some chain movers? How about some first down people? How about some quick outs, and just get four or five yards, and everything just feels like a home run, and they don't adjust, and they don't kind of make end game adjustments because credit to the Chiefs, and Tyreek Hill said it too, they covered, there was great coverage on Tyreek Hill, so it's kind of one of those games where like, why not get a tight end that can help you out here? Why not get some guys that can make it easier? How about go to Raheem Oster a little more? He had like 12 carries, and he's averaging 7 .1 yards per carry, so I don't know what's going on with Mike McDaniel on two, and two was pretty bad in that second half there. Yeah, he had the touchdown to Cedric Wilson, but make some adjustments, Mike McDaniel, and stop going for the home run ball, Tua. Yeah, look, first of all, I agree, I think the Dolphins are the bigger storyline coming out of the game. Like, they've now played three really good teams, and they've lost all three of them, and they came back against Kansas City, but they were getting killed in that game too. They were 21 -0 midway through the third quarter, and frankly, if Chris Jones doesn't take one of the dumbest personal fouls you've ever seen, it's probably 21 -7, and we're having a different discussion. I think your point though, man, is good with the Dolphins in the sense of like, there's timing strung off. They're just dead in the water. They have no answer for it, and we've seen that now multiple times, this year and last year. Kansas City basically said, we're going to get up on the line of scrimmage, we're going to get our hands on Tyreek Hill, we're going to reroute them, we're going to cause problems. Look, who knows them better than the Chiefs, right? I mean, they know what can cause some issues, and they actually went back and watched practice tape of a couple years ago to try to figure out how to stop them. They went back and watched how they worked against him in team drills and practice, and tried to figure out some things, and it obviously worked. But from the Chiefs' angle of this, listen, the offense is a disaster, okay? They had 46 yards in the second half of the game in a turnover. But they're 7 -2 in the number one seed in the AFC because the defense is incredible, and they're just shutting people down left and right. If you go and look this year at teams that have played the Chiefs, nobody's thrown for 300 yards. Kirk Cousins came the closest. He was up in the higher 200s because he threw a million passes. But if you look at Gough's numbers, 253 yards, one touchdown, which was a good game. That was without Chris Jones that week. Trevor Lawrence, they didn't score a touchdown. He threw 41 times for 216 yards. Justin Fields threw for 99 yards. Zach Wilson, of all people, had one of the best days against him, 245 and two touchdowns. That game. wild And then you had Cousins, who went for 284 and two touchdowns on 47 attempts. Russell Wilson threw for 95 yards one game, and in the other game, the game that they won, he threw for 114. These teams, two I didn't throw for 200 yards. Nobody's throwing for yardage against them. They're second in the league in sacks, the first in pressure rate. They've got two elite corners in McDuffie and Sneet, and so, look, the question with Kansas City is obvious. Can this offense get going? Because if the offense gets going, they're probably the best team in the NFL. I mean, if they get even borderline top -10 production out of that offense, forget it. They have the week now to scout. I was texting with some people around the team, and I think there's a general thought of like, look, it's a bunch of little things that are throwing off the whole thing. Question is, how many of those little things can you fix in the next couple of months? The good news is you have Mahalem, you have Kelsey, you've got a good offensive line, you've got Andy Reid. The bad news is they have you and me at receiver. So, I mean, that's the question. My guess? They'll fix it to an extent. I don't think it's going to be a unit that you'll look at and go, oh my God, they're incredible. I think it's probably going to be a top -10 unit right around there at the end of the year. They're in the mix, but yeah, I agree, man. The Dolphins are definitely the thing that you'll look at right now, and the team you'll look at right now and go, all right, you're going to make the playoffs, but what are you going to do when you get there? Are you going to beat somebody good, or is there going to be a one -and -done? Matt, let me ask a quick question, because you watch this team closely, and I think I watch them good enough because they're always on prime time, but all these analytics people are saying, look at the EPA, look at the DVOA. They're top five in offense in all these categories, and I'm like, I get it. You keep showing me the numbers, but I keep watching the games, and the wide receivers are not that great. They're not scoring points. They had nine points against Denver, so I don't know what it is. Maybe when you said disaster, I'm like, okay, cool, because I was trying to play it safe. Maybe they're average because there's something here that I'm missing with the DVOA and the EPA. They're a disaster by their standards. By anyone else's standards, yeah, they're probably still an above -average offense, but by their standards, they're a train wreck. I will say this. People forget it because they won the Super Bowl last year. They were somewhat of a train wreck offensively the first half of last year, too. They had a bunch of games last year. They lost to the Colts last year. They muddled through a Chargers game that they ended up winning because of a pick -six that went 99 yards the other way. They struggled offensively against the Bills. They ended up beating the Raiders on a Monday night last year, but they were down 17 -0, and they needed to come back in that game. They were not good offensively for stretches of last season, and then they're them. In January, they cranked it up, and that was it. Even on one ankle, Mahomes did enough to win. But this has been the year before that. They were 3 -4 at the beginning of the year. They couldn't score a point in that season. That was the year Mahomes played, again, by his standards, not by anybody else's, but by his standards. He played poorly. You go to 2021, and they lost in the AFC title game. They were 3 -4, and then people say, oh, well, then they came out of it. They did in terms of that they won games. Their point totals after that 3 -4 start, they won 20 -17, 13 -7. Then they blew the Raiders out, scored 41, 19 -9, 22 -9. The last couple of years, they've had stretches like this, but by their standards, they're a disaster offensively right now. By the NFL's standards, they're probably somewhere between 10 -12th in the league offensively. So, got to take it for what it's worth. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the next game here. The Bengals and the Bills will go right to Sunday Night Football, speaking of a team that by their standards is an offensive disaster, despite what EPA will tell you. I'm not here to bag on the analytics, guys. I will tell you this. I'm a big eye test guy. You watch the Bills. My eye test, I don't care that they're fourth or whatever in EPA offensively. They have not been good over the last month and change. I don't think there's any way to say that otherwise. They go to Cincinnati. They made it a little bit closer at the end, but they were down 24 -10 with a few minutes left. They score a touchdown. They get the two, but they can't get the ball back. The Bengals now, 5 -3. Winners of four straight playing like we expected them to play at the beginning of the year. The Bills are 5 -4. It has been a struggle for them. They started the year 3 -1. Since then, they're 2 -3 going in the other direction. They have a very hard schedule. We'll get to that in a moment. What was your main takeaway from that Bengals -Bills game? Just the difference in quarterback play between Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and how to cover that game. I wrote about it. I kept seeing Joe Burrow moving around the pocket and extending plays. Then I look at the boxer, I'm like, wait, he has four rushing yards? I thought he ran for a bunch of yards. I know he had that one where he had the first down kind of signal. It's just when pressure comes, he knows how to move. It's smooth. It's not like he has to speed it up. He just says, okay, cool. You're right there, but I'm still going to do what I have to do and just extend plays. Matt, when it's Drew Sample and Tanner Hudson and Erskine Jr., Trenton Irwin, these guys are making plays. Then you look at Josh Allen, when the pressure comes, it looks difficult. It's chaotic. He has to kind of see what's out there and then, okay, force a throw or miss a throw. I get the Bengals defense is better than the Bills defense, so Burrow had maybe an easier time, but there was pressure. He was fighting pressure. I get it. The second there is not as good there, but it just seems harder for Josh Allen.
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"You know, I guess the other thing I would say about the game quickly and we'll move on is the Niners to me, like right now, I think you have to say the best team in football. I mean, they have just been utterly dominant. The other thing, though, is I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment too much. And that's not taking away anything from San Francisco. They are deserving of every flower thrown at them. They've been awesome. I would right now, if you said who's going to win the Super Bowl, I mean, I think you have to say them. I mean, they've been incredible. But I don't want to be a prisoner of the moment in a sense. I feel like a lot of times in our industry that happens where it's just like, this is the last thing we saw and this is the most important thing. I think the NFL this year is as wide open as it's ever been. Like I could make a case for eight different teams to win the Super Bowl. Now I could make a better case in some than others, but I could make the case, like in the AFC. And we're going to get that here in a second. Who's the favorite? We'll talk about it in a moment. In the NFC, yeah, the Niners, the Cowboys, Eagles, but you're telling me the Niners are infallible and nobody can go in there and beat them? The Niners lost to Kirk Cousins, they lost to P.J. Walker. The Bengals went in there and killed them in a regular season game, absolutely killed them. Burrow threw three touchdowns and four incompletions that afternoon, and that was before Hufunga got hurt. So like, look, do I think the Niners are the best team right now? Yes. Would I be shocked if they got knocked off by Dallas or Philly? No, I wouldn't be. Even after this game, I mean, that is the one narrative I have seen. Will the Niners beat those two teams so convincingly? That means that's the end all, be all. That's not the way the NFL works. I have seen that happen before, where teams get roasted in the regular season and then come back and smack that other team around for four quarters. It just happens. It's football. To the AFC side, right now we've got the Ravens at 9-3 coming off of bye, Dolphins at 9-3 coming off a win over Washington. Jags at 8-4, and not only a shocking loss to Cincinnati, but also now dealing with the injury to Trevor Lawrence. It seems like it's going to keep him out at least a game. And Kansas City, who's 8-4 but has lost three of its last five, including on Sunday Night Football to the Green Bay Packers, which, if you had to sit here and bet 10 grand on one of those teams to come out of the AFC, based on all you know and what you think's you take? Yeah, if I'm putting money on it, and I know it's not the best year for Kansas City, but I have to go with what I know. I've seen them go to Super Bowls, five consecutive AFC title game appearances or whatever it is, two Super Bowl titles with Patrick Mahone, so I get they can't catch the ball. They're missing something offensively, they kind of regress on Sunday Night Football defensively. It's not the best Kansas City team, but I know the reputation, like you just mentioned. Come to playoff, it's a whole different beast. And I know when Mahone and Kelcey and Anderese call into plays, and obviously defensively they tend to do their thing as well. So I will go with Kansas City, and it's kind of more like, I don't know about Baltimore. I love their defense too, but I don't trust his passing to tackle Lamar Jackson, we've been talking about it, I think we agree there. And then you don't have Mark Andrews, he could come back in the playoffs, I don't know. But there's something missing offensively there. Miami, I just can't trust. They haven't played anybody since they lost to Kansas City in Germany, like a bunch of teams with two or three wins, and yeah, they look nice doing that, but go play somebody in December, we'll find out a little more about them when they play the Cowboys, the Bills, and a bunch of other teams. But then the Jaguars, I don't know what Trevor Lawrence, so it kind of feels like I have to pick Kansas City. Yeah, you know, I tend to agree. Look, the Chiefs have real issues. The receivers are atrocious, outside of Rasheed Rice. The defense is very good, it did have an off night against Green Bay, I would expect it to bounce back, they've been good all year long. And they might get Nick Bolton back this week, which won't hurt. So you have those things. But you know, they're vulnerable this year, in a way that they have not been in previous years. There are a lot of times you look at the Chiefs and you're just like, that team, good luck beating them. This year, you could beat them. The problem for the rest of the AFC is I don't know what team that's going to be, I mean, we saw Jacksonville play them, the Chiefs were awful in that game, they had three turnovers, they did everything they could to possibly lose. Kelcey barely played, it was his first game back from his knee injury, it was week two. Chris Jones was knocking off the Russians, the Chiefs still won 17-9, and they knelt down at the one-yard line. They played Miami, they were 21-0 at halftime in an initial site game. Baltimore is the team I look at and say maybe. The problem with Baltimore is every time we get to the playoffs, it's the same movie. It's the same thing. And now without Marc Andrews, I look at them and go, if you got to throw the ball, it's going to be a problem, right? So I'm with you, I think it's Kansas City, but is this one of those years where if the Bills get in as a sixth seed, they could just go to the Super Bowl? Maybe. Maybe they could. I'm not going to get into it now because we'll get into it later, the Chiefs-Bills, but it's an enormous game. And I've got to tell you, that's one of the hardest games to pick I've ever sat there and looked at, because both of those teams, anything's in play, anything. So, I will agree with you. I will say it's Kansas City, but you could give me four or five teams at AFC, if you want to include Buffalo, and say that team could win the whole damn thing. And I'd say, yeah, they could. And if you want to give me those same five teams and say they might not win a playoff game, but yeah, you're right, they might not. So it's very weird. In the NFC, you have like these two, maybe three teams you look at and go, okay, those are the teams and that's it. In the AFC, you look at them, but the funny thing is, if any of them get through the Super Bowl, I think any of them would have a shot to win the game. It's not like they're so underwhelming that I'd say, well, there's no way they could beat the Niners or the Eagles, they could. But it's a weird year where there's a lot of parodies, a lot of injuries in the AFC, and so that's where we sit. Let's dovetail right into it. The biggest story we've got this week, obviously Trevor Lawrence getting hurt, high ankle sprain, no surgery, but sounds as though he's pretty beat up and looked pretty beat up when it happened. They lose to the Bengals in a game that Jake Browning went berserk in, over 300 yards passing, he was throwing the ball all over Jacksonville. And look, for anybody who's not followed Jacksonville particularly closely this year, it's surprising that Jake Browning throw all over them. It's not necessarily surprising, however, that they gave up a ton of passing yards. This has been a huge problem for them all year long. In fact, overall, Jacksonville's defense has largely been a sieve, they are 24th in total defense, total yards against, and if you want to go to the passing defense, the only teams that are worse, and they're barely worse, are the Chargers and the Commanders. I mean, Jacksonville just gives up an absolute ton of yardage every game. So what is the biggest story to you, big picture? Assuming Lawrence is back here in maybe let's say a couple weeks, is it Lawrence's injury or is it Jacksonville losing that game at home to Cincinnati? It's a tough one, but it's got to be the Trevor Lawrence injury when you got C.J. Bedtter as your backup, you know, it's not looking good for you. And man, I got to tell you, I didn't realize how bad the Jaguars were defensively. I kind of thought maybe they're average, you know, they're getting by, you know, they got some playmakers, Josh Allen, the edge rusher is doing well, and that's about it. Yeah, when I was watching that game closely on Monday night, I'm like, yeah, they're not good. I get Jamar Chase was really good, but they could not stop, you know, Joe Mixon, you know, they made Jake Browning look really good. And I don't want to take anything away from him. He looked great, you know, but at first it was just kind of these quick dump-offs and quick throws and he got into a rhythm and then just started going a little deeper and deeper for downfield shots and it worked out. But, you know, if Lawrence, you know, say he misses a game or two, you have to play the Browns, you have to play the Ravens, and maybe that cost you the AFC South, and because the Texans and the Colts are only one game behind, I could still see the Jaguars making the wildcard, but I think if you don't have the quarterback there and the other part too, Matt, they don't have Christian Kirk. And it's kind of a weird dynamic too. They can't figure out how to use Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk. Like one game of Kirk's going off, one game is Calvin Ridley. I know they're similar players, but you're going to miss one of those guys and that's going to hurt you too. So it's not looking good. I know the Browns got crushed by the Rams, so maybe they can win that game. But again, it's C.J. Beathard. It's not great. It's not great. It's not the best situation in the world. First of all, I agree with you, the biggest thing is Lawrence, but I'll just go the other way here for a minute. Like, if you're a contender, you can't lose that game. I'm sorry. I don't care that Browning played well. Like the Bengals defense is horrific. The Bengals can't stop anybody. They've given them more explosive plays than anybody in football this year. They're a disaster defensively. A total disaster, which is almost impossible because I think Adaromo is one of the best coordinators in football. They just don't have the personnel. They are getting killed. I mean, you can throw the ball on them. You can do anything you want. The Bengals can't stop anyone. And yet Jacksonville, I mean, look, we didn't even talk about the fact. Is Tyler Boyd, was he taking money under the table in that game for Jacksonville? I mean, that's the worst interception I've ever seen. And I've watched the Jets all year. OK, that was when he threw that ball. I realized, oh, my God, he's going to throw it right out. Josh Allen was like, great, thanks. I mean, you had that happen. You had two turnovers on downs, excuse me, one turnover on downs and then a missed field goal from 57 yards. You had the ball twice at midfield against Jake Browning. You couldn't win that game. You couldn't do it. That's not great. Not a great sign. And you also wonder with Jacksonville, how much of this is a little bit of paper tiger stuff, their schedule this year is the NFC South and it is the AFC South. I mean, that's 10 of your 17 games. They played the Chiefs. They got they got beat handily. OK, they did beat Buffalo. Give them credit there. Beat them over in London. That's a nice win. They had that crazy game against the Saints that if Foster Moreau doesn't drop the ball, they probably lose that game or at least could have very well lost that game. This has not exactly been a tour de force here out of Jacksonville. So you look at a game like that and you got to have that game. You got to have that game. And you're at home Monday night football against a Bengals team that is reeling and you can't beat them. Like that's a game. I'm sorry. Miami's winning that game. Baltimore's winning that game. Kansas City's winning that game. You couldn't couldn't beat. You couldn't stop Jake Browning all night. I mean, that's that's as bad. And with all those breaks you got and you still lost to him. Not great. So I, I agree with you. Lawrence is the bigger issue, the bigger story. But I look at that game and go, man, I don't, I don't love it. Like if I'm a Jags fan, I'm thinking if we got C.J. Beathard going into Cleveland, I'm probably not winning that game. And then you got Baltimore on a Sunday night after that. And you better hope Lawrence can play because if he can't play, you're losing by 30 because C.J. Beathard hasn't beaten that defense. So Jacksonville's got issues right now. There's no questions. Funny how in the NFL things change. And unfortunately, of course, the reason things change. But like we were sitting here a week ago, man, going like, my God, their schedule's a joke. They got Baltimore, nothing else. Now, all of a sudden you're sitting here going, man, they can make the playoffs? Like if Lawrence has got to sit a month here, not great. Although I don't know if I'll sit that long. And then Christian Kirk got hurt. You didn't even talk about that. He might need core muscle surgery. Like first offensive play of the game, he got hurt. So Jacksonville's got a lot of problems right now. There's no question.
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"Welcome to the Ultraflex Football Podcast. Move over Pat McAfee. There's no denying that we are here to spice up your life and never forget about the good times. I'm your host, Anthony Sutton. With me, as always, is Rob Green. Man, I wasn't prepared for that change. What's up? What's going on? And Viva Forever, Ryan Wheeler. I feel so much pressure. Now we got to be better than Pat McAfee. All right. Oh, we got the... Go ahead. No, he's actually like swearing on ESPN now, and he's got like Mike Greenberg, he swore on ESPN now because of McAfee. He's actually... A little more laid back now, huh? Yeah, he wears a tank top. He's very good for ESPN, in my opinion. Go ahead. He's spicing up Disney, huh? I think I saw, didn't they have to put him on like an extra delay versus normal? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. He has to cut out the F words a little bit, I heard. Someone's got to tell him to stop the cursing. No. Why? That's what makes it fun. I'm like eight song titles through my album here, so. Oh, he's like, damn, you're doing song titles already? Yeah, I thought you had to say him first. Holy moly. All right, well, we're about to find out what your song titles were. So Tony messed up two weeks ago. He didn't get all the song titles in, so now he has an album to himself, but because this is a team sport, a team podcast, Rob and I now have to split apart, or a album between ourselves. So Rob and I have Good Charlotte, The Young and the Hopeless. My songs are A New Beginning, Lifestyle of the Rich and the Famous, Wondering, The Story of My Old Man, Girls and Boys, and My Bloody Valentine. Rob? I don't know, man. I'm not feeling good about this week. This is a lot. Seven songs and a half hour show. All right, I got Hold On, Riot Girl, Say Anything, The Day That I Die, The Young and the Hopeless, Emotionless, and Movin' On. Tony, we're all wondering, what do you have? You have the Spice Girls, my man. And I already, I've gotten already into the pod. I've already gotten Spice Up Your Life, Stop, Never Give Up on Good Times, Move Over, Denying, and Viva Forever. I still need to get in Too Much, Saturday Night Divas, Do It, and The Lady is a Vamp, which will probably be a difficult one. Hold on, can you say that one more time? What was that? The Lady is a Vamp. Like a vampire, assuming? What's a vamp? It's a vampire. And that's from the Spice World album. 1997 made me feel old AF. 97, wow. I remember watching the Spice World movie, the Spice Girls movie. I do not remember. Oh, you guys didn't have older sisters, that's why. No. All right, anyway. Movin' On. All right, speaking of Movin' On, the NFL schedule moved on. We are now in week two, so let's get to Football Talk. And I guess technically we're in week three, so we're going to recap week two. As always, we're going to start with the Bills game, go to the Titans game, and then kind of what else is going on. So, Rob, you were at the Bills Raiders game. What were your biggest takeaways? It was a fun home opener. The Bills got back to their winning ways with a nice, easy, I'd even want to say I was worried at the beginning. It was a little annoying that they fell behind 7 -0, but I was confident they would still pull it out. They did. Josh Allen ended up AFC Offensive Player of the Week, I think the 11th time in his career now, which is pretty impressive. Wow, the franchise record. Oh, I didn't know that. Nice stat. You beat Jim Kelly, it was 10 times. Well, pretty nice. Feels like a new beginning for the Bills, for sure. Nice, Ryan. Where was I going with that? I told you guys a stat yesterday, actually, that surprised me, but Josh Allen is number one in completion percentage so far this year. I know it's only two games in, but fun little tidbit there. It's crazy how much can change week by week in the NFL, and it's going to happen again this week. If the Bills were to lose to Washington and go 1 -2, then it almost feels like the game, I know it wouldn't be a must -win, but it feels like the game against the Dolphins the following week would feel like a must -win. That way, they're not 1 -3 and that far behind the Dolphins, but yeah, it's crazy how much can change in one week in the NFL. Oh, show. My biggest takeaway, and I said it last week, kind of a similar takeaway for me was last year it felt like we never got pressure on the quarterback. This year, it feels like we're constantly getting the opposing quarterback pressure, and it feels like our offensive line is playing well, so big task, which is we're physical, we can run the ball, we can block, we can get pressure. It's a good change of pace. I don't know, honestly, I'm not smart enough to tell you if McDermott's play calling is a factor in that, or if it's just Leonard Floyd, hopefully his ankle's okay, is better, and Ed Oliver's having a better year, so on and so forth. Yes, I saw his average depth of tackle is negative yards right now, which is impressive. So his average tackle is a tackle for a loss. That's awesome. That's literally the definition of blowing up a play. So yeah, it's exciting. Obviously, this win means something, but it doesn't really if you go and lose to Washington, so got to two and one. Two and one, by the way. Oh, yeah. I think everyone does the thing where you kind of... Did we just lose our host? It kind of looks like a frozen face there. Okay. Hey, frozen face. Oh, Rob, it's you and I. Let's do this thing. All right. So I didn't get to talk about the Titans at all. Can we say anything now, because he's gone? Yeah, we can say anything. Say anything, say anything. Sorry, I can't sneak any of these. Good Charlotte. Anywho, girls and boys, my takeaway is that the Titans are who I thought they were. The team that... I guess who a lot of Titans fans thought they were. The team that's probably... You are who we thought you were. Welcome back, Anthony. Thanks. They're the team that's going to beat the good teams and lose to the teams they should beat. And that's how it feels like the Titans have always been. They keep every game close. They have a shot. They have a chance in every game. So they're not quite the young and the hopeless, but they're just maybe like the mediocre. No, they're not the young and the hopeless. Oh, I thought that was one of my song titles. That's the... Oh, no. Oh, no. Clearly. Well, okay. I guess I can cross that one off my list then. Anywho, you know who else I was impressed with was the Falcons. They play a certain brand of football. It's the NFC Titans. I think I have to be a fan of the Falcons now. But just ground and pound, they came back. They were able to pull that one out in Green Bay. So... Yeah. The Falcons. To your point, there's not many teams, I feel like, in the NFL that have an identity, like a true identity. The Falcons are one that you know exactly what you're getting every week. And that could be really good or it could be really bad. Oh, for sure. One of my week two takeaways is prior to the season, it was always... And I was the one on this podcast kind of leading the charge is how good the AFC is gonna be. And then if like through two weeks, which is, again, a small sample size, it feels like the 49ers, Eagles, and Cowboys are playing just as well as anybody. And they're all in the NFC. Now, the NFC doesn't have much else to offer, but those three teams are gonna be very formidable to whoever comes out of the AFC come Super Bowl time. Yeah. At this point, their high -end talent almost seems better than the AFC with a lot of the top teams in the AFC struggling. So... Do you guys think that three of the top five teams in the NFL are NFC teams? Maybe even three of the top four teams in the NFL? I think that's fair right now. Yeah. That's crazy, isn't it? Because before the season, it was like, the AFC is so strong, so good. They have all the good quarterbacks and two weeks is a pretty small sample size, but I think... I think at this point, yeah, it's safe to say those three teams are top five. I don't even know who you would put... I mean, I guess the Dolphins are probably the best team in the AFC at the moment. I mean, the Chiefs scored 17 points against the Jaguars. And I mean, the Bills looked very good last week, but you can't ignore how poorly they looked the first week on offense. So... And then obviously, the Bengals Chargers being 0 -2 hurts the AFC's, I guess, power rankings or however you want to look at it. And then Rogers being hurt. Those are three teams that I thought were going to have a very good season. They still might. Maybe not the Jets, but the Chargers and the Bengals.
A highlight from 42: Week 1 Recap
"Welcome to the Ultra Flex football podcast where we have fun with our friends while we talk about football. I'm your host, Anthony Sutton. With me is Rob Green. Hello, hello. And Wheeler. Ryan Howdy, howdy. Tony, you do COVID well. Man, you sound really good, actually. I just realized it. Help my radio voice. Yeah, all right, cool. We got the album thing that we always do. Like I said, we're gonna go over our song title so that you guys know what to listen for. The audience knows what to listen for. We are doing Astro Lounge. The album is called Astro Lounge by Smash Mouth. Because Steve Harwell died. And apparently we're just gonna do an album of everyone who dies. So if you want to get your name on the show, just create an album, become a hit and... There's a pattern forming here. Yeah. Anyway, so my song titles are Who's There, Digging Your Scene, I Just Wanna See, Waste and All Star. Rob. I Satellite, got Radio, Stone, Then the Morning Comes, and Road Man. I've got Fallen Horses, Defeat You, Come On, Come On, Home, and Can't Get Enough of You, Baby. So we'll work those in here. This is gonna be a relatively shorter version of what we've usually been doing last year in this off season. So try to keep this around 30 minutes. We're gonna talk about football talk, which will be recapping week one. We're gonna pick games like we always do. And then we're gonna play Who Am I? So let's talk some football. Let's go to football talk. Dude, I was in my own world there. Let's try that again. Say it again. Let's go to football talk. Sometimes we're good, sometimes we're not, it's fine. I was honestly trying to think of how I could nail like three song titles in one sentence. Right, just on the road, man. We're like Josh Allen, sometimes we're good, sometimes we're not. Week one, interesting week. It always is an interesting week. We had some Fallen Horses, even at home. We had some pretty big upsets in some minds. I guess maybe not upsets, but surprises with the Bengals putting up three points. The Bills not being able to beat a backup quarterback. So let's dig in. If you've listened to this before, you know we're probably gonna start with the Bills and the Titans. I think the Bills game had the biggest news of the season by far with a future Hall of Hamer tearing achilles his four plays into the game. Four plays, man, brutal. So Rob, what happened to the Bills? They sucked. I don't even wanna talk about the Bills this week. Can we talk about another team? Let's talk about the Titans, guys. I'm on to the Raiders this week. The frustrating part for me, which we will talk about the Titans here in a second, is the thing that I've been asking for for what felt like a long time now is for their offensive line and defensive line to play better. And they kind of did. Like the defensive line was in the backfield all game. The offensive line played well enough to win the game. I mean, the Jets have a very good defensive line and they held their own. And our superstar quote unquote quarterback that got paid a boatload of money literally lost the game for us, which is frustrating. So I don't wanna waste too much time talking about the Bills. I just wanna see who your guys' all -star would have been for the Jets on offense. Who would you say, or defense, I guess.
A highlight from LGM Podcast: AFC Preview
"You know, Herbert has to go out there and he has to win a division or, you know, win a playoff game, right? You know, that's, we are firmly, he's in the fourth year, he needs to go out there, this team needs to win a playoff game this year, they're certainly capable of doing it, but if he doesn't win a playoff game this year, it's starting to become a little bit of a disappointment. This is the Lawyer's Guns and Money Podcast. Hello and welcome to the Lawyer's Guns and Money Podcast, and welcome to our annual NFL preview with Scott Lemieux and Rob Farley. Gentlemen, hello. It is finally time for the NFL to return, and thus the world is right again. Finally, Sunday has a point. God lives, finally. Not three days he's dead, it's like seven months. So, let's, we might as well just jump into this, you know, as a pretty exciting season unfolds with what I believe is the vastly superior conference this year, the AFC. And why don't we start with the AFC East, which is kind of a traditional place to start, where you've got a pretty interesting division with four teams that all have a few question marks, but all could be 500 or higher. Yeah, it's fun. So, I have the win projections from Aaron Schatz's annual almanac, which formerly under the auspices of Football Outsiders, which was destroyed by some shady Canadian company. So, the projected wins for the division are Bill's 10 .8, so basically 11, Jet's 9 .8, so basically 10, the Dolphins 8 .5, perhaps a little lower than some men have anticipated, and the New England Patriots at 8 .1, projected to be under 500 for another year. So, do we think that's, yeah, and that's probably roughly how I'd see the division lining up, Bill's winning it, Jet's wild card. I mean, the Dolphins, so I guess take those, let's go one by one. So, the Bills are interesting in that they were probably the team most picked to win the Super Bowl last year, and it was a weird year, and yet they had a good record, the underlying stats were fine, but something always seemed a little bit off about them, and then they just got absolutely, the score on that Bengals playoff game was not as close as the game, and they struggled to beat Skylar Thompson the previous week. So, I think the question is, do we just kind of write off last year, Allen clearly was playing hard for a lot of the year, Miller was injured, tons of injuries to the defense, so we kind of write off last year's an aberration, and basically say they should be top contenders again, or do we say McDonough's gonna regret that 13 seconds where he turtled against Mahomes and Tyree killed the rest of his career. I have to say that instinctively I'm kind of leaning towards the latter, that I think the Bills are still a good team, but I wonder if they kind of lost their moment and the rest of the conference, several teams in the conference are kind of pulling ahead of them, but they're still good, I may be wrong about that, but there's something I don't know, there's something I don't entirely like about the vibes around that team, I'm not sure I can, I don't know if it's my old Josh Allen skepticism or what, but I think they're like a good team, but I would rank them pretty far below the, well, there's the injury issues of the Chiefs, but if the Chiefs and Bengals are healthier, I think I like them quite a bit more. Yeah, I would say that part of a hallmark of your approach to the Bills and Josh Allen is consistency, Scott, I mean, you've got another train and you've stayed on that train, as long as it will take you, right. I mean, yeah, you know, I don't know, I mean, this is an awfully good division, but I think every team in this division has serious questions, except for the Bills, right, you know, all of the other teams are solid, right, but would you really be surprised to see Aaron Rodgers completely fall apart, would you be surprised to see Tua get hurt, you know, and who knows what's going on in New England, but I mean, you know, the Bills, you know, I have to agree with you, right, that they need to be the favorite in this division and then much depends on two things which are very hard to predict, which are Tua and Aaron Rodgers and, you know, I think we have to grapple with the fact that we, you know, we can't, you know, I think we go into this Aaron Rodgers question with, you know, sort of seeing Tom Brady ahead of him and that's probably wrong, right, because, you know, Brady is so sui generis, right, that I don't think we can take that projection and then apply it to what we're going to see out of this Jets team, so I don't know, I mean, beyond the Bills, I don't know what's going to happen, what's going to happen in this division other than it's a pretty good division, there are going to be some pretty good games, I mean, I think I do agree that the Patriots are probably going to come in last, but I would not be shocked if any of the three teams, if any of the teams other than the Bills came in last, I would be shocked if the Bills even came in second, so.
A highlight from The "My Guy" Fantasy Football Draft With Danny Heifetz, Craig Horlbeck, and Danny Kelly. Plus, a Cleveland Sports Check-in With Garrett Bush.
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We're also brought to you by The Ringer Podcast Network, where you can find new rewatchables we put up on Monday night. Me, Chris Ryan, and my dad, we did The Equalizer, one of my dad's favorite movies ever. Stealth Boston movie, by the way, so you can check that out. You can also check out a new Spotify podcast that we announced on Tuesday, Strike Force 5. Oh, yeah, all the late night hosts, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, John Oliver, Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert. They got together. They had been doing Zooms during the writer's strike, and then they decided, you know what, maybe this should just be a podcast, and we'll give all the money to our staff, and that's just what we're going to do. All of a sudden, it seemed like a great idea. I remember talking to Jimmy about it and thinking, this is a great idea. This will never actually happen. They'll never actually do this. Well, they did it, and you can follow it on Spotify, Strike Force 5. You can get it wherever you get your podcasts. Can't wait to listen to this. Super excited. Those five guys all on a Zoom together, just cracking jokes. I'm ready. So there you go. On this podcast, it's the second annual My Guy Fantasy Draft. Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, Danny Heifetz from The Ringer Fantasy Show. We're going to come on, and we're going to talk about all of our guys that we like, dislike, that we're afraid of in the fantasy football season, and then went to Cleveland to find Garrett Bush, who is kind of a big guy there. I got to say, he's kind of a guy. He's going to tell us what to expect from the Browns, who are the most confusing 2023 team. A lot of that has to do with Deshaun Watson, which Deshaun Watson, are we going to get? How do we feel about Deshaun Watson in 2023, just in general? And where is Cleveland Sports going? What's happened to them this century? All the good, all the bad. And he's going to lay all of it out for us. So this is a really good podcast. Can't wait. First, our friends from Pro Chip. All right, it's the second annual My Guy Fantasy Draft. Our Ringer Fantasy Show guys are here. Danny Kelly, Danny Heifetz, Craig Horlbeck, my rewatchables producer, always nice when he pops on the BS. So we did this last year. We didn't win any awards, but sometimes you don't need to win awards. Sometimes when something's great, when it works, you just kind of know it, and we're going to run it back. Heifetz, you want to explain what this gimmick is? Yeah, it's you text us a bunch of ridiculous categories and then we kind of build an entire show, right? No, it's fun, though. It's just like it's a draft, but it's not a draft. And then it's it's vibes. It's a vibes episode. Yeah, we can agree on this. The concept is like you go into a fantasy draft. We all have the same kind of guides, same kind of rankings, but it doesn't capture the love. It doesn't capture the irrational. I just believe in this guy. It doesn't capture Craig thinking that that Pickens is going to end up being Justin Jefferson this year. There's just some things he already is or fear PTSD from bad draft picks from the past. I actually listened to a lot of the pod we did last year, and it was pretty funny hearing some of the guys we were like completely enamored by that ended up being bust. And then there were some other ones that I was surprised by the accuracy of it. Danny Kelly, can you ever be right in a fantasy draft? Can you ever go perfect? One in a million. It's like picking stocks, you know, if you get one good one, then you're set. Last year, mine was Romandre. I listened to our show last year, too. Feel like I nailed that one. Didn't get some other ones right. So that's, you know, we don't have to re litigate those. But Romandre, I'm calling that one. The take I was proudest of last year was fearing Cooper Cup after the year that he had just not liking the scent of something. This is veteran experience. I've been doing fantasy, I think since like 1989, 1990, something like that. All right. So I'm going to rip through the categories here. And then we're going to go at them one at a time. This is not, it's a draft, but it's not a draft because if we all have the same guy for a category of two of us have it, it's fine. We're okay. Um, the categories are my one true love, the guy that we just liked the most, my crazy pills guy. Do you want to explain the crazy pills thing, Craig? Uh, I think it could go either way, right? It's either you feel like you're taking crazy pills because nobody else likes the guy you like, or it's the other way around where you feel like you're taking crazy pills because everybody likes this guy and you don't understand it at all. So there's a little variance on that one. You can go either way. There's the my I absolutely hate myself for doing this guy, which seems to happen over and over again in fantasy where you go in there, drive like, well, I'm not going to end up with Russell Wilson. Uh, that was the example I used last year. It could be the example you use again this year. I'm not even gonna spend a dollar for Russell Wilson. Then it gets to the 17th round. If you're in a booger eater draft or, you know, you have $5 left for five guys and it's like, ah, Russell Wilson, Sean Payton, and all of a sudden you have Russell Wilson and you have no idea how he ended up on your team. So that is the, my absolutely hate myself for doing this guy. Uh, there's the, I'm going to add this category. It's a little sub category. The I'm staying away from that whole team team. There's teams where you're just like, I'm out, I'm just blind out. I don't want one person from that team. I'll see, we'll see if we agree on that team. Then we have the, my shameless Homer pick guy. That's going to be really, I mean, Craig, you don't even have to go. Uh, although there could be their tickets like plus 500, but I think we know pick is going to be there. There's the, my, I wouldn't take him even if he was free guy. So you're putting them on your D and D do not draft list. I had McCaffrey as my guy for this last year, which looked brilliant for about six weeks. Then he got traded a machine of an offense. We have the, my, that 2022 booty call isn't happening again guy, which is a new category for this year. This is the, you stumbled into somebody in the free agent auction, maybe in November, you wrote them for a couple of weeks, some fond memories, but you know, as a one night stand or, you know, as a three week stand and you're not going back, then we have the, this is a classic one. The somebody's got to get points on that team guy. We just look at all the teams and like, well, I don't know. Everybody scores 300 someone's catching passes on that team. Someone's rushing for 970 yards. There is the, my sorry, I'm sorry. That's too rich for my blood guy where you look at the draft guide and you see some of the salaries next to the guys. Then you go wait at $47. So Najee Harris was my guy for this last year. And I was proud of that one. There's the, my $1 QB guy. You're not, he's not going to make it break a draft, but you're also kind of secretly stashing away in your head. And we all have our $1 QB. There is the, my I'd be afraid to look on Tuesday and see the red flag guy, which I've added this year. I didn't even tell you about this category. You take the guy and it's going great. Eloy Jimenez is the ultimate baseball example of this. It's going great. You're feeling awesome. And then you go on there on a Tuesday and there's the red flag with the yellow box that there's news. And you're just like, Oh no. Oh God, what happened? And there's certain guys who just, it happens every year. A cousin of that, the, my, I know there's a 99 % chance he's getting hurt again, but God damn, I can't resist this guy guy. Then we have the, my Cooper cup. It's a year after the year guy. So I named this category after Cooper cup. So who is it this year? They had their year last year. Don't do it again. Don't get sucked in five more. The my, I just want everyone on that offense. I don't care guy. The my it's a year too early, but fuck it guy. The my missionary position. We've all had him guy. The my, I fell for the preseason hype guy. And then finally the, my I'd never root for an injury, but he is one injury away. That guy. All right. So we're going to start with my one true love. We're going to go and we're going to go on one, two, three, four on the zoom. And then for the second round, then the second guy will go, Danny Kelly, you're up. All right. My one true love. Who is it? I got to go with Tony Pollard for the Cowboys. I'm irrationally in love with this guy. I've been saying it. I think there's nothing you can say. It convinced me that he's not the best player in the NFL. Like, like just pound for pound, the best player in the NFL. Um, you know, last year he finished as the RV seven this year. He's going to be playing, I think more snaps, getting way more opportunities. If he can get up to like the same level of opportunities as Ekeler and CMC, you know, cause he's in that style of runner. I think this guy could finish as a top three running back in the NFL. And so I am, I'm just like full as a gentleman said, full bloom in love with Tony Pollard. I just can't, I can't help it. So in the ringer fantasy guide, he's 13th right now and he's gone for $42 in auction. So you think that's low? Yeah, I would, I would, I actually had Pollard too. Wow. We all have Pollard. Wait, did you too, Krik? I'm scared now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's, well, that's, that's, this is a sign that, yeah, this is a terrible sign, but I just, I mean, just to pile on to DK stats here, Zeke had 12 touchdowns last year and Nick and Tony Pollard was a top 10 running back. Like what else do you need to hear? Like every time Tony Pollard was on the field, he was the best running back in the league. And now Zeke's gone. Like I rest my case. This is the pregame show where they all pick the same team to win a football and then that team loses. So you should probably stay away from Tony Pollard. Wait. So all three of you had Tony Pollard for this? Yeah, I can give you some. We did not discuss this before coming on. I didn't expect that. Oh, my God. Talk about groups and Jesus. You know, it's, you know, what sucks about this is that means when I have my big auction draft in a week and all my friends are going to be listening to this. And when Tony Pollard comes up, I'm not going to get them because they're all going to bid them up for $57 if I want to get them. Well, Bill's like, oh my God. Well, here's the argument. Rich Rebar, who works for Warren Sharpe, he's at Sharpe Football Analysis and he is a really good comp, which is basically Melvin Gordon was playing ahead of Austin Eckler for years. And everyone's begging for Austin Eckler to get the job. And then Austin Eckler finally got the job and the charges got rid of Melvin Gordon. And then Austin Eckler still wasn't really a first round pick. And we talked ourselves out of it. We hemmed it on. This is Tony Pollard again. It's like Zeke is finally after five years out of Dallas. And we're like, yeah, any point you get Tony Pollard, that's actually crazy. Like, honestly, you could get him for forty five bucks. Austin Eckler is going to go for 60. Tony Pollard would probably just be better than Austin Eckler this year. I kind of genuinely mean this. Tony Pollard should maybe be the first pick in fantasy football. Right? You can convince me. Kind of genuinely. Well, he does have a great offensive line. There are going to be a couple of games against bad teams where he, you know, you have him on Thanksgiving or something and he puts up the four touchdown hundred and eighty yard game. I can see it. So I guess I'm up then because you guys all agreed. You can have anybody you want. My one true love this year, Jalen Hurts of the Philadelphia Eagles, who I also like for MVP. So. Last year, he missed two games and they also blew out what what was a D .K. like seven, eight team, seven, eight games where they just like in the fourth quarter, they didn't even really have to play offense. They're just kind of running out of the string. Yeah, I don't think their defense is going to be as good this year. Sheila Kapadia on the on the NFL show has been talking about this. I think it's to be better than he thinks, but it won't be as good on it. And their schedule is tougher. But, you know, is it possible that he's like a four thousand one thousand guy with some sort of combination of 40 to D like everyone agrees they have the best offensive line in the league. Everyone agrees the one to A .J. Brown, Devonta Smith punch is way up there. And I'm saying like Schrager on TV this week was saying Devonta Smith, this is the year he jumps up to the chase class. So we have that with Dallas Goddard, who everybody thinks is the best all around tight end in the league, the guy who actually blocks and plays three downs, running backs, whatever. Put anyone behind there and they'll gain 80 yards. And then he's going to get a lot of the goal line carries. I think he's my top QB this year. I think I would take him before everybody else. So I don't even think it's that controversial. What do you think of that one? He is, I think you're right. I think the key point you have there is that he barely played in the fourth quarter last year. That's the key thing. He was already in a per game basis. He was the best quarterback in fantasy last year and he barely played the fourth quarter. Yeah. So you could argue he hasn't even reached the ceiling yet. He's our number one guy on the guide right now, I believe. Shameless plug for fantasyfootball .300 .com. He's our 21st player. We have like all our rankings there. And yeah, he has the highest floor and the highest ceiling. My favorite stat about Jalen Hurts, other than 18 rushing touchdowns in 18 games last year, Jalen Hurts had more games over 30 points than under 20. That's everything you want in a quarterback. Well, so he's number one in our guide, but I still feel like in a draft, Mahomes is going over him because of the Mahomes. It's just the most fun to have Mahomes. The R. And I actually think that's a little nuts this year. DK, Hurts is I think either 12 to 1 or 11 to 1 on FanDuel for MVP. And I think those odds are the most out of whack of all the MVP odds, because that's, if you're going to say the MVP is going to come from an awesome team, they're probably one of the five teams that has a chance to go 13 and 4, 14 and 3, something like that. He, they have the most talent on offense, I think, of any team that's going to be in the MVP conversation and we've seen him get better every year. So why is he 11 to 1, 12 to 1? Shouldn't he be like 6 to 1, 7 to 1? Shouldn't it be where Josh Allen is? I don't, is it just because of the previous like impressions that he was a, what was he a third round pick or second round pick and maybe hold on to that for too long? Or maybe it's just because he's surrounded by such a good team. I don't know. But yeah, like you said, he's improved pretty much every season he's been playing, even going back to college. You know, from everything that we've heard, he is maniacal about like working and leadership and just all the things, all the intangibles. And then, of course, you know, if he takes a jump as a passer this year, you know, that's going to be huge for him because he's already like one of the best running quarterbacks. He's double digit rushing touchdowns in the last two years. You know, everything about him screams just, you know, like the face of the franchise season. He's everything they want. And so I could see it like from a narrative point of view, for sure. It reminds me of what you used to have with Russell Wilson when he was alive.
A highlight from Part 1: USAs World Cup Collapse, Basebrawls, Jets Optimism, Life in The G-League and The OC 20 Years Later | with Gabe York and Zoe Simmons
"Coming up, an unexpected two -part podcast cameo from me. It's next. We're also brought to you by the Ringer Podcast Network, where we turned over Sean Fennesey and Amanda Dobbins' big picture feed to Brian Raftery. It's a narrative podcast called, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. You can find it on the big picture starting on Tuesday. And it is an idea I'm really excited about because it came from a class that I did as a senior in college in 1992. Me and my friend Horgs talked a movies professor into doing a special Vietnam War movies class where we watched basically every Vietnam War movie that had been made up to 1992 and then tried to write a big picture term paper about it. And the thing that was really fascinating about that class and something that stuck with me was just that whole concept of Hollywood reinventing the entire Vietnam experience under the premise of, Did We Get to Win This Time? So we got Brian involved and he turned the idea into an awesome, awesome podcast. I even went and dug up the term paper that I wrote 31 years ago. I thought it was gonna be horrendous. It wasn't bad. I was kind of proud of myself, retroactively 31 years later. Anyway, Do We Get to Win This Time? How Hollywood Made the Vietnam War. It is gonna be in the big picture podcast starting on Tuesday. So that's one piece of business. Second, new rewatchables on Monday night. It is the 300th movie that we've done. It's a special one. We're doing National Lampoon's Vacation. It was time. Meet Chris Ryan, Van Lathan. Yeah, and Van was pushing for it because we wanted to do Christmas Vacation during the holidays and you can't do Christmas Vacation. If we do National Lampoon's Vacation, super fun. Can't wait for you to listen to it. And we'll be running the video at some point on the YouTube channel, youtube .com slash Bill Simmons, where we put up a whole bunch of rewatchables podcasts in case you missed it. Boogie Nights is up there now. Goodfellas, Independence Day, just a slew of them. So if you're bored and you wanna throw on some rewatchables and watch us make fun of each other, there you go. Last but not least, I don't wanna say this is the most important, but it's certainly the thing I spent the most time on. Our documentary that we did about the G League with Religion of Sports and Ringer Films, we combined, and it is premiering on Tuesday, August 8th. It is called Destination NBA, A G League Odyssey. It's really good. We immersed ourselves into the G League season. We followed Scoot Henderson, Gabe York, Ryan Terrell, Mason Jones, and Denzel Valentine. And the big question was, what is this world like? What's it like to be in the G League? And I am really proud of where we landed with it. And we even have, much later in this podcast, Gabe York is gonna come on. He's one of the five that we followed, and he's gonna tell us what it's like as you're holding on to your dream in your late 20s. We try not to spoil the doc too much with Gabe, but I really liked him. He's probably the guy that jumps out of the doc in the most sympathetic way. So look forward for you to watch it. It is prime video, Tuesday, August 8th, Destination NBA. A G League Odyssey. You love basketball, just watch it, it's good. So there you go. This is gonna be part one of a two -part podcast. Gabe is coming up later. My daughter Zoe Simmons is coming up later because we did a whole bunch of OC stuff on the Prestige TV podcast. I was even on two of the episodes. But I ended up watching season one of the OC. And my daughter was watching with us and loved the show. And she was born a year and a half after it premiered. So me and her broke down season one from the perspective of what is it like when somebody 18 watches the OC, a show that is now two decades old. The anniversary was actually August 6th. And what she liked, what she didn't like, what people aren't doing anymore for her kind of audience. And we just dove into it. So that is much later. First, coming out of the gate, I'm gonna open a six -pack because we have a lot to discuss over the past three weeks, all the stuff I missed. So that's gonna be part one. And then part two, which is gonna go up later on Sunday night, me and Rossello doing this evergreen idea that we've always wanted to do. And this seemed like the perfect time because nothing's happening in basketball. So that's gonna be part two later tonight. Part one coming up. First, our friends from ProJax. What's up? All right, I'm taping this. It is Sunday afternoon Pacific time. And I'm gonna open a six -pack. There's a bunch of stories in sports and culture that happened over the last three weeks. I was just writing stuff down, things that would have been fun for podcast segments. I was just like, man, I wish I could have given my thoughts on that. Just gonna rip through them. So I have six and then maybe a couple bonus ones at the end. The first one, the biggest one, was the US women's soccer team, which lost today in penalty kicks to Sweden, scored zero goals in the last two games, scored one goal in the last three games, and that was off a corner kick. You could feel from the beginning that something was off with this team. It was all the ways. You knew in a checklist of what are the red flags? There were just red flags galore. And the only person who was really calling it out in time over and over again was Carli Lloyd, who was doing the Fox studio show. And she was the one person in the horror movie who knows the house is haunted. And everyone's like, shut up. You're not being patriotic. You just wish you were still on the team. She was right. She was right from the get -go. This team, you could see it before the Vietnam game when it was like, look at the new Nike suits. Look at these new suits. And they're all like styling as they head into the locker room. And they're running commercials. And every player has a commercial. There's players who've never done anything of that commercials. And the vibe was just off. They only beat Vietnam three -nothing in a bracket where goal differential was gonna be super -duper important. And that was a huge red flag. And we did the usual thing that we've been doing since 2019, 2015 of, oh, well, they almost scored a bunch of times. Oh, well, if that had gone in or some bad luck. There was just an arrogance to this team. Like they were carrying themselves like the defending champs, the same way like the Denver Nuggets would go into next NBA season. Like we're the champs. I was like, yeah, you are the champs because the season just happened. The World Cup happened four years ago. Everyone's four years older or wasn't on the team. And you could see they wanted to build the team instead of around the identity of, here are these new up and coming awesome stars that are gonna be in your life. They were really latching on to Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe. Alex Morgan's 34, Megan Rapinoe's 37. I think one of the differences between the discourse with women's sports and men's sports is that in men's sports, we grasp for angles. And if somebody is disappointing in some way, we really go nuts. Like think of how James Harden's been treated over the last 12 years. So he's one of the 35 best players ever and has taken just an incredible amount of shit. Oh my God, the playoffs, look at his game log. Oh, he choked again. Alex Morgan, who scored twice in her first two games in the World Cup in 2011, she scored once in 2015 in seven games. She scored six times in 2019, five against Thailand in a game that was 13 to nothing, one in the other six, and then scored nothing in the four games this time around. If you take away that Thailand game, she has scored two goals in the last 17 World Cup games. This is the striker. This is the one who's supposed to be the most dangerous player in the field, who's supposed to produce goals. And she hasn't produced goals since the mid 2010s on the national level. And yet it's Alex Morgan. She was supposed to be the next one. We got to keep propping her up and pretending she's a superstar. She's not a superstar. She's really honestly never been a superstar. She certainly hasn't been as impactful as somebody like Abby Wambach was. So you have the team built around her. She's got to play. They play her the entire game, game two, the entire game, game three. She plays like 95 minutes in this game today, and they don't score goals. And the announcers just won't talk about it. It's like being on an AYSO team that your kid's on, and the coach is playing somebody at striker, and everyone's like, why don't they play Sally at striker instead of the coach's daughter? It's like, oh, you know, the coach's daughter. She's got to play there. So you have that, and then you have Rapinoe, who's 37 years old, who's just, unfortunately, great career, legendary, true legend, huge big time player. And when you hit your late 30s in soccer, it's a wrap. She looked like Yudana Rapinoe, not big Rapinoe, and comes out for the last 25 minutes of this game and can't do anything, and then misses the penalty kick. That's the thing. If you're beholden to past performance, you can't expect to succeed in the moment. And I did feel like, what were this team's strengths? Speed. They had Sophia Smith, who really was bad the last three games on the left wing. Like, she just, she couldn't even connect passes. Trinity Rodman, who's a beast. Lynn Williams, who's super fast and athletic and had some really nice moments the last two games. And then Alyssa Thompson, who's the prodigy, who's the, you know, potential tiger or LeBron of this team. 18 years old, best high school player I've ever had. They won't even throw her out there. But this was not a team that could connect passes. They weren't, like, especially creative. The coaching was just bizarre, and we'll never see that guy again. But it was like, the one thing they did have was speed, especially the forwards, and they just threw that away. And Alex, you know, couldn't do anything. So now they're out. It's the most disappointing finish of the last 25 years for the women's team. And it reminds me in a lot of ways that 2004 Olympic basketball team that we had, the USA team. And I tweeted this, I think after the second game, because that was a team that was between eras, like this one was, where all the best players on that 2014, the ones in their primes, weren't that good, except for Duncan. And Duncan was completely banged up. He'd played so many NBA games the last couple of years. I think his knee was hurt. But, you know, it was Iverson and Marbury. The talent, it just was a between eras. And you had guys on the bench, like LeBron and Carmelo and Wade, who were four years away. Kobe wasn't on the team. And it just felt generationally, like we caught that team in the wrong time. The style was wrong. And we learned all these lessons and we moved on. 2008, we win. There's a documentary about it. But this team felt like it was between eras. The Alex Morgan, Rapinoe era, which was basically done. And then you have this era coming up with Rodman and Sophia Smith and Alyssa. And, you know, it's just four years from now, we'll probably be fine. But they need to re -imagine this. And I think if you're gonna learn any lesson from this, it doesn't matter what happened four years ago. It's the World Cup. It matters what's happening now. So that's one thing. Second thing. So Jaylen Brown gets this huge contract, $304 million. Some people seem surprised that it was that much money. Chris Ryan even took a shot at it when we did our library watchables. Hurt my feelings a tiny bit. Mainly because I didn't really have a comeback. Rosella did something on his podcast about how this actually makes sense. This amount of money, when you think of how the salary cap has climbed just since 2015, and it's gonna keep climbing. And there's this world you can go into where you think about just how much everything is gonna cost in the NBA four or five years from now, that Jaylen Brown at $70 million isn't actually gonna be that intimidating. The same way we feel about Tobias Harris for $40 million now, or Klay Thompson, $40 million now. Yeah, you don't really wanna pay $40 million for Klay Thompson, but you can survive it. And I think that's gonna be where the Celtics land with Jaylen. Here's why they had to do it. They're the favorites on FanDuel right now. They're plus 470. The thing that made them the most special and has made them the most special for the last five, six years is the Jaylen Brown -Jason Tatum combo. They've been incredibly successful. The team itself has made five conference finals in the last seven years. They came super close to making the finals last year. I have now gone into the what if zone with that Celtics team where what if Tatum doesn't hurt his ankle on the first play? Do we beat Miami? They were close is the point. And when you're that close, you can't fuck around. This is not Bradley Beal resigning with Washington for 50 million a year when everybody knows you can't get past the eight seed with Bradley Beal. This is different. You're trying to win a title. You're trying to keep all your optionality open. The thing that's a little scary about it, nobody seems to totally know if he wants to be in Boston. This is something we've discussed on this pod. It's been floating out there. The fact that he wasn't happy about landing in the Kevin Durant trade rumors a couple years ago. And just in general, where the league is now, where as Woj called it, the transfer portal, where people get their contract first and then they decide what they want to do. And I think for the Celtics, they know they bought themselves a year with Jalen and they are still one of the favorites to win the title. And a lot of it's going to depend on health and Porzingis. You could also, I don't want to make the case, but you might be able to make the case that Brown had a fucked up hand last year. Cause he did. Cause he sliced his hand open. It was bleeding even during the Philly series. And maybe that was why his ball handling went sideways. Listen, you got to do the contract. It just breaks your brain. I remember a million years ago, Sports Illustrated and Inside Sports say every year they would have like a salary issue. And they would talk about these guys are making $1 million a year. And it seemed like so much money. And now where we're heading with the money, plus the NBA is the meteorites deal. The moment any of these guys becomes unhappy, what do you do? Because you're paying Jalen, let's say you're paying him 55 million a year. Plus he is the trade kicker, which the team has to pay. Right? So if he decides after a year, you know what? I'm tired of being the scapegoat. Everybody loves Jason. I'm like the middle brother of this team. I want my own team. I want to go to Houston or Atlanta. You got to trade me. What are the Celtics going to do? On top of who would want out, you don't have a lot of options and you turn into what the situation Portland's in with Deem. And then on top of it, it's so much money. It's impossible to get any sort of a fair trade for the guy. So they had to do it. And optionality the that comes out of it is frightening. I remember in the early 2000s, when the first time the contracts kind of went nuts and you would see that people get signing like six -year, $100 million deals, seven -year, $110 million deals. And the Celtics really, really stupidly traded for Vin Baker. One of the worst trades of the last 30 years for Boston Sports. A trade so bad, you knew it instantaneously. And I wrote a piece that you can probably find somewhere in the ESPN archives about it, where I compared it to the end of Thelma Louise when Harvey Keitel is running toward the cliff trying to stop the car from going off the cliff. That's how I thought about the Vin Baker trade when it happened. Then it happens and you just had this salary albatross. It's a salary cap league. And you're like, wow, we just threw away 20 % of our salary cap on this trade. There's going to be a couple of those that are just franchise killers. And whether that leads to them bringing back the amnesty clause, who knows? I wish, I've made this, I've had this idea before. I wish that they had a rule in there that if you drafted a guy, every year that he stays in the team, you get rewarded in some way from a salary cap luxury tax type thing, right? So Jaylen was 2016 draft, this would be his eighth year. Maybe like after the seventh year, because that's usually like the third contract. The guy stays in the team, maybe each year after that, he doesn't count for 2 % of the luxury tax, up to like 30%, something like that. The point is the Warriors should be rewarded for keeping Draymond and Klay and Curry from a tax standpoint, that they were that smart to draft those guys, keep those guys together. They should be incentivized, the players, to want to stay with them because there's some luxury tax stuff that the team gets. And the team should want to be incentivized to take care of those guys because it's also beneficial to them. I just wish they figured out some version of that rule. Anyway, Jaylen was always signing for $304 million. Talk to me in a year, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Next thing, I missed the running back pity party. This was crazy. The running backs all got together and they were really upset about how much money they made. And I don't know what to tell you. There's too many running backs and not enough running back spots. And I don't know if you're trying to build a responsible salary cap team in a collectively bargained era, why would you spend $30 million over two years on a running back unless the running back was awesome? Nobody even wants to spend more than $11 million on running back. So I knew that this was crazy when Damien Harris, who was on the Patriots, who I thought was really good. He's maybe not an elite running back, but a good running back, right? Somebody that if he had been on the Chiefs, he easily could have started for the Chiefs. And he signed with the Bills for like one year, 2 million. And when that happened, combined with Pacheco on the Chiefs' seventh round pick, they won the Super Bowl with him. It's just, this position's devalued. I work on this player, I've been actually working on it the last couple of weeks where I try to rank the players for blue chippers, red chippers, pink chippers, honorable mention, and have this whole point system. And so quarterbacks, Mahomes, who's the alpha of that position, he's worth 10 points. And you could even see this in the point spread. If Mahomes gets hurt, the Chiefs are 10 points, nine points, whatever, less than what they would be as a favorite. They'd switch to an underdog. And you go on down the line. Jalen Hurts, I had him as an eight. I had Joe Burrow as a nine. And you go on, you keep going down, and it's like, Geno Smith's probably a two. But then you look at some of the other positions and you have to value them the same way the salary cap values them and teams value them. Guards, they aren't worth that much. Running backs, sorry, they're not worth that much. My top running back was three points because ultimately running backs don't really matter that much. In the last like five, six years, I would say Derrick Henry was the only running back that you could definitively say, this guy almost won the Super Bowl. Like he was that good. Other than that, you know, it's plug and play, quarterbacks, it's receivers. It's much harder to find the number one receiver. Every team needs one. It's much more tangible if you don't have the number one receiver. And it's much easier to just kind of scrap together the running back position. And yet people went nuts about this. We ironically had this in the NBA with centers. You know, Vucevic, who's a really good offensive player, he signed for 60 million for three years, 20 million a year. And Jaylen Brown's going to make $52 million a year. Is Jaylen Brown two and a half times better than Vucevic? No, it's just, he plays a way more important position. You can only play one center at a time. You can patch together the center position. You could have like Isaiah Hartenstein for $8 million. You could, you know, get Robert Williams for 16. You don't need to spend what Phoenix did on Eaton where they're paying $8 and $30 million a year at center. And you don't really need to do that. You kind of feel obligated if you don't want to lose the asset. But I think the NBA is going to go this way eventually where unless it is Jokic or Embiid, the center or Bam Adebayo, it's a bonus. You could argue that was already an overpay. They gave him a huge extension. The Lakers just gave Anthony Davis $60 million a year as an extension. I would argue that's a little frightening. I feel like you could patch together the center position. What really matters in basketball is having the creator. And this was the argument five years ago with Luka versus Eaton for the number one pick. And I made this argument. It was like, go look at who wins the NBA title every year. It's always the people who have the creator. There's somebody who's on the perimeter of the ball in their hands. Even Jokic, who wins the title this year, he was a creator. He's not a typical center, right? He's basically their point guard on offense who could post up. So this happened in the NBA. Nobody went nuts. And this is happening in football. And is this where football is. If you want to make the most amount of money playing in the NFL, I don't know why you would be a running back. I would be a cornerback. I would be a wide receiver. I'd be an edge rusher. But if you're a running back, you know your shelf life's probably like five, six years. You know the money is not totally gonna be there. Now they're in this, like you have people like JK Dobbins, like, I might hold out. It's like, really? You didn't barely even play in the field. Barkley said he was gonna hold out. And then, you know, probably looked at it. And the money for Barkley is like 10, 11 million. That's unfortunately the market. So you can't fix this. They collectively bargained it. And until we get to the next CBA, I don't know how you fix it. I thought it was really weird. It felt like people had nothing to talk about. And it was like, ah, let's feel bad for running backs. All right, let's take a break. And then I'm gonna finish the rest of the six pack. All right, picking up on the six pack. We're gonna talk a little more football. I talked about the running back pity party. This is a different kind of party. The Jets optimism, which has just been stunning to me over the course of July. I have Jets fans in my life. These are people that usually have no hope and are very reminiscent of the pre -2004 Red Sox fans, just assuming the worst at all times. Why does God hate us? All that stuff. And now they have this crazy optimism based on the fact that they brought in Aaron Rodgers, who I did not think was very good last year, just throwing that out there. I wouldn't say he was bad, but for Rodgers, he was bad. I mean, we thought Rodgers was, he was the reigning MVP and we thought he was still one of the five or six most impactful players in the league. And I don't wanna read stats to you for the next six minutes, but deep balls, he was bad. Turnovers, he was bad. Leadership, he was bad. And the case for Rodgers coming back would be, well, he's gonna be rejuvenated. The Jets, New York City. This is his team. He got away from Green Bay. He's got Hackett back. I get it, but he's also at an age where we've really only seen Tom Brady succeed at a high, high level at the age that Rodgers is at. I was trying to figure it out. I have my QB ratings and I had, you know, the top tier is Mahomes and Burrow and Allen and Herbert and Hertz. Those have to be the top five. Then it drops off and it's Lamar Jackson and Lawrence. And then Rodgers, probably a hair underneath him with a chance to play himself up with those guys. But from what we saw last year, I'm not ready to put him there. So he's the 10th best quarterback in the league, probably. 10th or ninth best quarterback in the league, probably. Well, they have no offensive line. And I don't understand why people keep glossing over this where it's like, hey, Rodgers and Garrett Wilson, he's one of the best receivers in the league and Breece Hall's going to come back and the defense is really good. And it's like, yeah, the offensive line is terrible. Beckton and Dwayne Brown, sure tackles again. And then you have Robert Salah as the coach, who I cannot say I thought that Jets were crisply coached last year. Whatever he was doing with Zach Wilson was insane. No idea if that guy's even a decent coach. So I'm already worried about your offensive line, the age of your quarterback, and the competency of your coach. And that's before we get into the hard knocks curse, because for some reason they're doing hard knocks, the incredible Super Bowl hype already. And then we have the schedule, which is the AFC East has just got screwed by the schedules this year. The Jets, just for quarterbacks in 17 games, they got to play Josh Allen twice, they got to play Mahomes, Herbert, Hertz, Dak Prescott, and Deshaun Watson. And then they also have to play Miami twice. We'll see what we get out of two this year. And then a really good Pats defense. And then Denver, who knows, they might be rejuvenated. So Danny Dimes, they have to play him. It is a brutal schedule, so you have that. And then on top of everything else, you're the Jets. I was there with the Red Sox before 2004, and this is probably just as bad, where you just think the worst possible things can happen is all the time. You're not allowed to have optimism when you're Jets fans. You can be cautiously optimistic. There was an entire Curb Your Enthusiasm episode once, season 10, episode seven, about being a Jets fan. And it was called, I think, the ugly section. Nick Kroll was the maitre d'. And part of the episode was about, he would put these people in different sections of the restaurant, depending on how attractive they were. But there was this other plot, Larry's buddy who loved the Jets, kills himself. And Larry becomes convinced it was because of the Jets, that the Jets killed his friend. This was only a couple of years ago. So now they get Aaron Rodgers, and everything's good. And they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't see it, guys. I don't wanna step on my football stuff too much, but I'd be shocked. And Lombardi points out the defense that everybody's ready to compare to the 85 Bears. Lombardi said they had two turnovers over the last eight games last season. So that means something too. I am dubious, to say the least. If you're gonna tell me a tortured franchise actually turns it around this year, I want a tortured franchise that doesn't have expectations. Because the Lions are another one. Everybody's ready to put them in the Super Bowl or close. And the only case for them is just pretty explosive offense. They couldn't stop anybody last year. And the NFC is terrible. But that's another one where is that a fan base that should be super excited and have a ton of hype? The one that's kind of lurking that fits in this group is the Browns. Because the Browns are actually super talented. They're in a winnable division. Burroughs already hurt. And I think they're four to one to win the AFC North on FanDuel, something like that. Their over -under is, I think it climbed up.
Bills clinch third straight AFC East division title
"The Seahawks fell to 7 and 8. The bills wrapped up a division title as David Schuster reports. Josh Allen threw a pair of touchdown passes and rushed for another as the bills ramped up the AFC east with a 35 13 victory over the bears. It's the next progression in our goal. Actually, playoffs, division title, and we know what the next one is so I got a couple more games to put our best foot forward and just try to go execute to the best of our ability. Buffalo's run game was extremely productive with 254 yards, Devin Singletary rushed for 106 and a score while James cook had 99 yards and also found the end zone. The Vikings pulled out another tight victory, defeating the Giants 27 24 on Greg Joseph 61 yard field goal this time expired. I felt really good off the foot, so I
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Yep, my wedding page must have come up. And then, I don't know if you need to Google the stats on divorce, but he must have Googled the stats on divorce. That's not a good roast joke. It's kind of a very fitting like if this is like your best man roasting you at your bachelor party in a somewhat, I don't know, appropriate and on the nose way. That's pretty good. But not from a stranger. Not from a stranger. And I group, I group that into the same category is the iber flu one because it's just so egregiously inhumanely stupid. This is really good. It's a little more yours is a little more personal. It's a little more, I mean, you really like mad eber food. I do like Maddie for, but it's mad at your foods turns out to be some sort of fraud here and the bears go zero in 17. I'm not gonna like, it's like I keep you up nights. Yeah, no, a divorce would really, that would be a huge bummer for me. I wouldn't enjoy that at all. Okay, so my quad box, I noticed you didn't mention the falcons, obviously, Gary hates the falcons. If my kids act up, I'm gonna make them watch that game. Cleveland Carolina's one. Jacksonville in the commanders. Come on, baby. That's a good one. That was a tough one to omit. You know, and 'cause I've just been so excited about this that I've had no one to talk to about it. And we're here. So I think they're going to run a lot of like 2016 Clemson offense or whatever it was 2017, 18 games in offense. And yeah, 2018 Clemson offense, Tony Elliott, and they would have both of the running backs on the field at the same time. So if they have James Robinson and Travis Etienne back there and you're playing a little bit of chess with them and maybe like Travis Etienne gets like, I don't know, like 5 or 6 balls out of the backfield starts to make some crazy stuff happen. Like he looked good and very limited action in the preseason. I think a lot of people are sleeping on him and I don't know, I think that could be like a really cool, really cool looking offense. Yeah. Now that now that the kicker kicker isn't on the sidelines.
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Com the daily cover leading up to the game about is Aaron Donald the greatest defensive player in NFL history. I talked to Dante scarnecchia, which is pretty cool. Patriots offensive line coach, legendary offensive client coach. He told me leading up to that Super Bowl patriots rams first 20 to 30 passing plays on the script were all immediate take the snap and get rid of the ball because that's all they want to do. They wanted to piss off Aaron Donald. They wanted him to have to run full speed and know that there was going to be no fruits to the labor. They wanted him to just be like, have his head bashed in with frustration. And you can see that. That's part of the deal now with him, you know? It is, it is. I mean, you think about stylistically over the years, the passing games that have quote unquote neutralize him, the forty-niners always fare well against him because the ball comes out quickly. Russell Wilson, all those years. He's a guy who likes playing later into the down. Didn't work out so well in a lot of this matchup with the rams. That's the way it goes. And the bills took advantage of that. I think the one thing we kind of quote unquote learned tonight because I don't think we have any real clarity on Matthew Stafford's health. I don't think this was a yes, he's definitely too injured, but it also wasn't a, let's never talk about this again because it's not an issue. What we did learn tonight is the bills can take on that identity. If they want to take on that identity and that's just one more way they can beat you and that's why that's why this is a really good night for the bills. And that's so scary, isn't it that, I mean, they are mid 2000s patriots level amoebic. Like they can stretch the field. They can dominate you in so many different ways. We'll see a really sexy bills running game. I'm sure at some point, the offensive line looked good. Again, I mean, I thought Singletary looked okay. James cook is gonna be fine. I mean, just by virtue of this happening, some of these guys are gonna fumble on their first Carrie. Ben Jarvis green Ellis, by the way, had a lot of fumbles in Cincinnati. Never fumbled in New England. But fumbled as soon as he became a Bengal. Fixed promptly. They told him you're a Bengal now, so fumble lots of times. Right. Yeah.
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"I get a watch that once the all 22 is out. I don't know what happened there. It looked like a miscommunication, but I'm not really sure why he thought higbie would have sat down in any way shape or form. The one that was worrying to me. And again, look, we're talking about the elbow. If it was somehow kept secret, maybe we wouldn't really think that of that much, but it just looked like a throw by someone who's not very comfortable with his body at this point. And as I said, a couple weeks ago when we talked about the rams, it's really problematic to go into a year banked up because it's not gonna get better and you're gonna have to overcompensate in certain ways and I don't know. They're well coached enough and there's enough talent that they're probably gonna make the playoffs in the NFC anyway, but this seems like it's shaping up to be a really long year for this team. Yeah, and like we talked about, it's a weird, it's a weird setup where you're only built to win super bowls. You're only built to win conference championships. And what happens when it becomes evident that that really isn't the path for you this year? You've gotten too old. You've kind of, I mean, you had a generational left tackle. That's not there anymore. And we saw we saw some of the pains that growing pains with that process. Obviously, even though this is a this is a note boom shell, I think we can fairly criticize them sometimes. We had some tough moments today. But this is still the number one rated note boom podcast. That's available in mainstream media. But yeah, I don't know what the plan is.
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"He doesn't necessarily need it. Right, like when you were on the Broncos in the really lean years, you were getting double teamed and it was terrible. And you're still making it happen sometimes, but now you get to just do the only thing that you're good at. You know? And imagine that. He was, he was doing it in a variety of ways. This was, yeah, this was really impressive. And at some point the bills are going to get TRE davious white back. And they're going to be good. I don't know what else to say about them right now. They are really, really good. And it's dumb. And other people have written this too that basically we're going to chalk this up as a disappointing season. If they don't win the Super Bowl, but there's just a good chance that they just mash a bunch of people and it's going to be awesome to watch and then they're going to play, I don't know. Like the Raiders in the first round game and for some reason, you know, it's raining out and Josh Jacobs carries the makes a 99 yard touchdown on the first play of the game and it just gets weird. You know what I'm talking about? It's just, you know, I don't know. It wouldn't be a disappointing season. Let's make it a point as a collective football watching society to just enjoy this regular season as its own thing and then let's not we'll log into the postseason later on. Yes. Let's enjoy this because it's gonna be awesome. Yes. I think that's a very good lesson. Also a very good anti tanking lesson to keep in mind. Just watch your team win games and be happy about it. Let's get to the ram side of this. We'll start with Matthew Stafford. The question is kind of, was it rust? Was it the elbow? Was it chemistry with the new guys? Because this did to me feel that reminiscent of those the odo Beckham junior early days there out in the when they got beat up in San Francisco and it just wasn't meshing with the new guys and I mean gosh, Allen Robinson. Boy, even not too much of anything. But it was not a good-looking offense tonight for the rams. 46 routes run by Alan Robinson. I think and two targets one in garbage time. And again, that's with a lot of zone looks. I should say, but boy, two outside corners who I don't, I don't know if they're, I mean, that's a number three number four corner for most teams. I think in this could be my, this could just be me overrating it way too much, but I still think that Jordan poyer and Micah Hyde are able to manipulate quarterbacks better than a lot of the a lot of the safeties in the NFL. I just think that that's something that they've kind of dug in on that they have developed a rapport with and they can kind of make they can kind of make what they need to happen happen back there. Yeah. And not that it doesn't matter. Who's playing cornerback? It obviously matters, but it matters so much less with the bills than it does any other team. Calling all podcasters. The 2023 iHeartRadio podcast awards are coming. This is the
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's really what it comes down to. It's pretty incredible. Minus, and you hate to even bring something like this up. So I'm gonna knock on wood because I don't like to, I don't like to even speak this into existence. But minus one of these plays going awry where, you know, and you've seen sometimes quarterbacks try to stiff arm, guys, you know, a lot of times you're not used to using your body and your muscle that way. You know, maybe something happened, you know, minus that kind of thing happening. He's unstoppable. He's just, he might be the best player in football. And you raise a good point, this is how teams are going to play the bills. And they're going defenses will approach them this way because you don't want to give up these spectacular long play. You don't necessarily want Josh Allen to get late into the down. The bills were willing to just do a lot of quick game stuff. And I'm sure a lot of that had to do with the countering Aaron Donald, and that was how it happened tonight. I mean, that's why Aaron Donald was not taking over the game. There just wasn't time for him to actually get to Josh Allen. So, boy, I mean, this is. Something of a continuation of what happened late last year, although it was a little bit different. It was just a slightly different version of Josh Allen and just the numbers here. 9 for ten on third downs. Obviously one interception was not his fault when it bounced off Isaiah McKenzie's chest. The second interception, that was his biggest mistake of the game. It wasn't even that bad. I mean, the throw was late, the route was probably a little too far upfield. And it was a really good defensive play. Other than that, it was as close to flawless as you are probably going to get here. Yeah, and this after playing, this is what blows my mind because and we can talk about the nebulous stuff, the expectations, all the stuff that we create that the players have nothing to do with, but when you play one of the few perfect games in NFL history against Bill Belichick and then, you know, and then you come into the next season with a better, deeper roster and then you play another punt list near perfect game against the defending Super Bowl champions. The holy shit. That's ridiculously good. That is. Undefeated teams in near undefeated teams. I'm not even starting that conversation because a lot of times they come from nowhere, like the Carolina Panthers that year that they were 15 and one, even though it's a similar offensive formula. Same offensive coordinator. It comes from nowhere.
"josh allens" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"QB NFL podcast I'm Gary gremlin. I'm Connor rohr. Connor, we are through game one of two 72. It was a little bit anticlimactic. I guess you could call it. It's kind of how you want to start off every season, start off every show, especially, but yeah, this was really lopsided. Yeah, and it flew flies against my theory that I deeply believe, which is that the NFL is fixed. Because you would have had a good you would have had a good opener. And the only reason that I bring this up now is the person who hated that take the most was Andy Benoit, our former coworker, who is now a Super Bowl champion with the rams, obviously. And I remember, I think it was one of our staff Christmas parties, and I brought this up and I was just kind of workshopping it out loud about how I thought that there was at least some sort of invisible hand sort of guiding things a little bit to make it make the desired outcomes happen in the way that the NFL would like them. And Andy was just absolutely gobsmacked by this. And was really angry that I had that take at all. Which is great because now he's a coach and perhaps working for the very machine that's trying to silence my conspiracy theories. It was an inside job all along. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I think it's the only reason I think it's not possibly true is because you couldn't have that many people keep this conspiracy secret. But yeah, you could. I mean, look, the NBA aside from the outrageous Tim donaghy stuff. You know, if they would put, I'm forgetting his name, that really old official who was like, he was just naturally such a nice guy that if a team was getting blown out, he'd start giving the other team like generous calls and that would that would bring the game closer together. So stuff like that where it's not like calling the teams and be like, okay, you lose this game and you win this game and that sort of stuff, but yeah, you can, if you wanted to, you could tip the scales, just ever so slightly. We're not talking about that today, by the way. We're going to talk about the rams of the pills. But if you guys want to get wild on this, I think we could do 45 minutes on that at some point. Yeah. Well, 45 minutes, no. I think I just kind of exhausted my time. Yeah. My take was, this might be happening here, take goes, no. No, not really. Throw some ads in there. Maybe you get to 45 minutes. Embrace debate, baby. Well, let's talk about what went down Thursday night.
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Wrong. That's so right. I don't know what I don't know what I was thinking. It was total domination from the Buffalo Bills. It was unbelievable. And by the way, Josh Allen keeps having games like this where, you know, and this is happening more and more. I think back to week 5, when they beat Kansas City or week 12. Those are two of the best games of the year from Josh Allen. And these insane performances Josh Allen's putting together are getting more and more common. And it's eventually going to elevate because as this happens more and more frequently, where it's really efficient, making high level throws and doing crazy stuff with his arm and with his legs and just putting up highlight level place constantly. But it's not just the highlights. If you're really talented, you could put a good place, but it's the level of consistency where you got four in completions and throw for 300 yards and 5 touch. Now, it's like, that's a different kind of day. That's an Aaron Rodgers level day. That's when you start getting talked about as not just a great quarterback. Josh Allen's a great young quarterback who, but we're getting close to the territory where we should probably be saying, Josh Allen's an elite quarterback. Like we're getting really close to that because his consistency levels what's going through the roof and it's crazy. Look, I'm not going to lie. The Patriots and Bill Belichick were eliminated. And I'm sad we're not going to get to see Bill versus Brady in the Super Bowl. However, we might get to see the bills against Brady in the Super Bowl. We'll see how the eagles game goes. I don't think that Philadelphia is going to knock Tom Brady out of the playoffs a little crazier things have happened. But imagine getting to see bill's mafia against Tom Brady in the Super Bowl, that would be awesome. It'd be kind of like watching two old rivals. Meeting again, you know, the bills and their old rival the Patriots. And by the way, this crazy thought, think about this. I've really thought that Tom Brady had benefited the most from Tom Brady leaving the Patriots and go into Tampa. But I'm starting to think that on top of Tom Brady really benefiting from that move. Clearly buffalo also really benefited from that move. They won the division now twice since Tom Brady left. Both years since he's been gone. And I believe that beat the Patriots now four times, which is more than maybe they ever beat Tom Brady. Like, it's crazy what's going on. I mean, think of the opportunity that has been afforded a buffalo now that Tom Brady has gone and the Patriots dynasty is weakened and the bills are peaking at the right time and I don't really know what's going to happen on the road to the Super Bowl who's going to make it. He's not, but if buffalo makes it and I'll be very happy, I really like what they're doing. I fear they're gonna lose their offensive coordinator Brian Gable after this year. And so for him to get kind of one final shot with his team and get the unfinished business finished and try to win a Super Bowl in Buffalo. That would be really, really cool. And by the way, if buffalo does not win a Super Bowl, which would be heartbreaking, they lost four in a row in the 90s..
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"I hope the plan isn't just, well, it's easier to do nothing because, oh my gosh. I don't really understand. I don't know what Joe judge has done to deserve a third year in New York. But maybe they get a new GM and suddenly it's great. I don't know. But I heard the Giants were keeping Joe judge and Daniel Jones. And it went, well, again, there's a lot of job openings and there's not a lot of quarterbacks. So I don't understand it, but that's what they're doing and best of luck to them. Apparently. Number three, number three, what am I saying? Finally, the last thing I want to talk about today. Number tomorrow, noteworthy 9 ask Zach. There's one other topic. It's in my notes somewhere. Let's talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars coaching search. Apparently, first of all, I heard two names that I love. Love, love, love. In the Jaguars coaching search, apparently they are considering Jim Caldwell to be their head coach. They're also interviewing and considering Doug Peterson. Jim Caldwell. Is the last code you got the Detroit Lions to the NFL playoffs. I love him. He got unjustly fired. Doug Peterson was a guy who I thought did pretty well. One is super cool. I mean, good coach Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl too. I'm not saying you're great suddenly if you want a Super Bowl but Doug Peterson of that got fired because the owner wanted more control and Doug Peterson didn't like that. They also the Jaguars apparently requested to interview both of the Buccaneers coordinators defensive coordinator Todd Bowles and offensive coordinator Byron leftwich as well as the cowboys coordinators. That's defensive coordinator, Dan Quinn, and offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. Now the guy, the name that got me excited though. When I found out that the Jaguars might hire him as their head coach. Jim Caldwell. Dude, are you? I really want to see Jim Caldwell make a return, become a head coach in the NFL..
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"He used that big frame, fell forward got a first down, and he also and on top of playing really, really well. Josh Allen had zero turnovers. He avoided a big negative play. I felt like what we saw on Sunday was the maturity of Josh Allen and him getting even better. That was a next step in his progression and that's how you become a top 5 quarterback. You put together games like that, week in and week out. Once that becomes the norm from Josh Allen, which we're getting closer and closer to that performance where he makes play after play, like the style of Aaron Rodgers, when you watch Aaron Rodgers, he's got like highlight reel play after highlight real players, making play after play. And when he does have a bad game or a bad play, it's rare. And Josh Allen is slowly elevating himself into that conversation being eventually an elite top 5 quarterback because as the mistakes go down and his playmaking just keeps getting better and better and better. He's going to become an Aaron Rodgers level style quarterback. And I just, oh my gosh, I didn't even, it's not in my notes. I wasn't going to I wasn't prepared to compare him to Aaron Rodgers, but what we saw like that was in Aaron Rodgers style game. He just elevate your football team and put together a bunch of long drives against a really good defense and it was really, really fun to watch Josh Allen on Sunday. And I gotta say, I hope we have this bill's patriots rivalry for a really long time. The battle for the AFC east between buffalo and New England. These are two teams that both have young quarterbacks and good coaches. I would say that buffalo has a better quarterback in the Patriots have a better coach, but it's awesome to see, I got asked a question last week that was like, hey, do you think that the Patriots are back to reigning over the AFC east? And I was kind of like, we'll see. It's very possible. And buffalo said, no, sir. No, we are not going to go down without fighting. We are, you know, we wanted to division last year. You guys kicked our butts year after year after year and buffalo said, no, no, no. It's still our division right now. You got to earn it and steal it from us and I love watching this battle between buffalo and New England and I think that would be a really fun playoff game. If we could see a third matchup between these two teams, which I think is actually probably.
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"I do not get a vote on the NFL MVP, obviously, right? I'm just a small little podcast host. But if I were voting, I would vote for colts running back Jonathan Taylor. This dude is awesome. And this is to me, this is exactly why he deserves the MVP. The colts are 9 to zero when Jonathan Taylor runs for over 100 yards. And they are zero and 6 when he does not. I mean, how else is there any other definition of valuable? When John and the Taylor is great, they win. When he's not, they lose, and to me, that's most valuable. By the way, a quarterback is won the NFL MVP award 8 years in a row. The last time we're running back one was in 2012 and Adrian Peterson won the favorite this year to win is Aaron Rodgers. It would be his fourth NFL MVP award. His second back to back, which, I mean, if Aaron does win the MVP, that's very cool. To say, hey, Aaron didn't win as many super bowls as Tom Brady, but he was a better quarterback, like more talented, he won more MVPs. He won four of them, maybe 5, we don't know what the future looks like. He won back to back at one point. I am totally fine with that narrative. Hey, Aaron's amazing. Let's praise Aaron. But just to me, if you keep giving it to quarterbacks, can we at least acknowledge it's not really, it's a quarterback award. The MVP goes to a quarterback unless something crazy happens. I would argue that crazy is Jonathan Taylor, but to me, I would give Jonathan Taylor, the NFL MVP award. I don't think I'm gonna give out. I didn't give out an NFL MVP last year either. Last year, I gave out an offensive player of the year in a defensive player of the year. I think it even better might just be to say best quarterback. Best running back, best receiver best linebacker best defensive end like that kind of thing..
Mac Jones, Justin Fields Jerseys Among Most Popular in Final Weeks Before Season
"Polly has jersey sales in the nfl. You wanna play the best jersey sales in the nfl since august first game. Okay there's five jerseys that have been sold the most in the nfl since august. I can you name any of them. Trevor lawrence nell liar. Nope he was big in april. May june okay. One is dak prescott. No liar some. Don't make sense because you'd think they have the jersey already. Tom brady tom. Brady's third over raid mahomes. his fifth mahomes is fifth. Okay all right. A couple newish quarterbacks new quarterbacks baker mayfield junior the third justin fields is fourth answers sales. Andy dalton is not in the there. Okay number one. Josh allen who makes a lot of sense and number two this guy is surprising starter. A surprising starter. Teddy bridgewater two weeks ago. It would've been a surprising starter now. Everyone says oh. I saw that coming. Mac joe mack jones.
Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes Is No. 1 in NFL Network’s Top 100 Ranking
"Top ten players in the nfl as voted by their peers has been revealed in unsurprisingly. Patrick mahomes takes the top spot followed by aaron donald aaron rodgers derrick henry travis kelsey to round out the top five josh allen moved up seventy seven spots from last season to land at number ten. Okay you probably have noticed. There was one name. I did not mentioned in the top five because tom brady actually came in at number seven on the lip. Maxine brady have been tire. Yep yep the cliff is saying brady should add tire. I understand if you wanna stick. Aaron donald in there because arrand. Donald is a better defensive. Tackle than brady is a quarterback at this moment. However defensive tackles are so much less important than quarterbacks. It is impossible not to take that into consideration brady but if you wanna put donald ahead of get it. Ready should be third. Maybe fourth on this list.
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"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"First, you're never going to regret. It took took a leap of faith and saying that. Hey, I want to go. Try this whole thing out and Italy and you know, my coaching career back home can wait, when it when it happens, it happens, but I ended up learning so much in Italy. It actually helps boost my resume and and I became a better Coach because of that experience. Yeah, my buddy Marcel one of my my close friends played in in the SEC at Missouri. I played with David Douglas in Portland and he is right now coaching in Spain in the Revival of NFL Europe and like he's like he's not making a lot but it's like, dude, I get to be in Spain and Barcelona coaching football on the beach like it's a Priceless opportunity for him as far as like life experience and just getting to play football or getting the coach football and be around the game. He says there's no. He's like all he can say is positive things. It's crazy how like happiest and how much he enjoys it. I'm in the food to me was the biggest thing like in Italy credible. Oh, just a regular pizza to them is like probably a top-five pizza in the whole country here in America. Like they take their food, very serious. It's very rich in nutrients and they got the quad ingredients and all that, but it's real. It's real organic natural. You know, ingredients, unlike how we just advertised that here at America and then we're just still using the same process foods they have real job. You know, natural ingredients and you can see them, you know, farm-to-table a lot of their Foods. James. I got to let you go you're amazing night. We've talked for, you know, between the time we recorded and the time you just talking about life, we talked for more than an hour. I want to say thank you, I really appreciate your time. And I just I see you're like living room open behind you. So thank you so much means a lot and I just I'm always rooting for you. I really I love to see you do well in life and I'm really happy for you. You're in Florida. You're doing a cool job coaching and I I'm always rooting for you. It's been a pleasure and congratulations to you again your engagement and I wish you all the best. I do appreciate you. Having me honest been a long time coming. Since the sky view cameras days. It's been a pleasure. Thank you, hey keep in touch..
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"Love lost right now. And you know, you crashed our guy and we were young Petty and steal fastest lap from you. Anything they can do these two competitors are neck-and-neck, their Christian Horner. The Red Bull team principal has been openly very, very unhappy with total will. I've seen them talk? Very friendly in the past, seems like all that's out the window right now. They are not happy with each other. They are going to fight tooth and nail to the end, it's going to be a very very interesting but this it's heating up and it's going to be very very interesting and intense from here on out. So that's one way that you know Formula One really really benefited from this past weekend at the British Grand Prix the second thing that happened. Yep. Is that the pack was brought closer together? The gap between Max and Lewis has been closed. I mean the lead Max leads Lewis 185 points 277 Lewis is now in Striking Distance of. And and even as someone rooting for Max verstappen, I acknowledge that's good for Formula One and that actually makes me happy because I would love to see Max for staff in win the form of the one title may I shamelessly admit that but what I do not want is a blowout I hate when one person wins decisively and it's not interesting and it's boring till the yet so and no I respect, dating wind but I if I'm honest with myself I don't enjoy that. I would like to see it had come down to the final race there within a couple points and I've wanted to matter all the way till eventually ended the season. I would like to see that. So when one guy is dominating the other, I don't love that. It's not my favorite thing in sports, so to see the the the Gap closed between these two drivers. That's awesome. No, Red Bull. Also only leads Mercedes now. 289 points to 285. Red Bull had a massive lead going into the weekend that lead is gone. Red Bull. Only got three points the entire weekend. They got three points from Max for staff and getting first. In the Sprint, Mercedes got three points as well in Sprint, qualifying because Lewis got, you know, they got second and third. So that's, you know, two points for second, one point for third three points total so that's neutralized, right? And wrong in the race. They got a total of 35 points for first and third place, and so Mercedes made up 35 points this weekend in their battle against Red Bull. So not only did the battle between Mercedes and Red Bull get tightened down. Also McLaren and Ferrari are very close together in the battle for third. Ferrari got second place with Charles LeClaire and 6 with Carlos Sainz, McLaren, got fourth and fifth Landon or Scott forth. Daniel ricciardo got V McLaren right now, is in third and form of the one with a hundred and sixty three points in the constructors. Standings, and Ferraris and fourth of 148 points. It's close, it's interesting. This battle between the my other favorite battle right now, inform, the one is this battle between Ferrari and McLaren? And so there's a lot of battles in Midfield. I don't need to go too much into it. I think it's interesting. What what's going on with Alpena is really interesting form. Bonds is making significant progress, but right now, the two battles at the top are dominating my headspace Mercedes and Red Bull, and Ferrari, and McLaren. And I just, I walked away this weekend thinking, like, this is really, really good for Formula One..
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"And half now. And so, take everything I say with a grain of salt, but I to me it's not as black and white box, as other stuff has been in the past. And you have to point out that Max and Luis are both very, very stubborn drivers. And the reality is that neither guy was going to pull out of that corner. And man, I think about if the roles had been reversed, if Louis had been on the outside and in the lead and Max was passing Louis on the inside. I don't think Max would have pulled out either. So if the roles had been reversed, I think the same thing would happen but to the other guy and anytime Lewis and Max verstappen race each other. It's almost the game of chicken where it doesn't end until one guy pulls ahead or crashes. They're just neither, guys going to concede an inch, they don't. And then, you know, in the replay life. It looked like, hey, Max could have done more to give Louis more room and it looks like Louis could have done more to give Max more room so it's like I I don't know. This is very muddy and very ugly and I'm curious what other people will say. But these guys are so competitive. Neither guys going to back out of a corner like that no matter who has position. And so all all the only take away I really can make from this past weekend is is it Lewis as fault or not? Some people said, some people said no, What I do know is from here on out, it's going to be very very intense, this battle between Lewis and Max is heating up there, the intense rivalry there, Max's, angry and Lewis doesn't care. All I know is as a fan of racing that's going to make some really really interesting and dramatic storylines. Come in the future. Now, Red Bull had an awful weekend. Sergio Perez, find out during Sprint qualifying, his dnf put him in last for the starting grid on Sunday for the actual grand jury. He did not get any points this weekend. Sergio, Perez did not he finished 16th in the race. The only kind of positive you can find it all for Red Bull or Sergio. Perez is that often took a pit stop with stop at two. Laps to go. He sacrificed any chance at a top ten finish but what he did in that pit stop is get new tires and get the fastest lap. So we stopped Louis from getting points for a fastest lap that kind of stole a point from Lewis and he kind of he's like I'll sacrifice appoint for me if.
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"And so I mean it's a weird conversation. I don't like talking about another man's money necessarily, but what I would like to see from Chris, Paul is to say I've made so much money in my bank career. I want to see Chris Paul, pull a Tom, Brady, and maybe put winning ahead of money for his whole. I mean, we've actually so many times, I've heard Chris Paul compared to Tom Brady. And the one thing Tom Brady is always done is said, I want to win championships and put that at the Forefront of every decision. He made with his career. Then it'll be interesting. Does Chris Paul do that? I don't know, but I'm really got, you know the same way. I'm really excited to see what happens with Ben Simmons. Like what's going? Is he going to? Where is he going to go? Who's going to take like, what's going to happen with Ben Simmons, in Philadelphia? I'm also wondering what will happen of Chris, Paul's contract situation, this offseason. Now we're real quick. I want to give a shout out to the Suns head coach Monty Williams. He went to the Bucks locker room and congratulated them in person, which takes a lot of Man, that's a tough thing to do. You lose an NBA championship and you go to the other team's locker room to congratulate them and that's almost feels like something. You really don't see. You see that in like literally baseball game and like when another team wins a tournament occasionally the coach go walk over and congratulate the other team. But here's a Monty Williams said in the Bucks locker room after the game. Remember the opposing team's locker room as they are wearing goggles? And there is tarps everywhere cuz they're about to shoot champagne everywhere. He said I want to come and congratulate you guys as a man and as a coach you guys deserved it and I'm thankful for the experience. You guys made me a better Coach. And you guys made us a better team that is Monty Williams, talking to the opposing team and their locker room after losing an NBA title. That's so classy, man. Let me love Monty Williams even more. And man, I really, I just wonder what's going to happen Phoenix next year. Other teams are going to be even better. I would imagine. I mean, there's just a lot the wet NBA West is up for grabs like a dog. Year and I would love to see Phoenix come back. I'd love to see Monty Williams win a title with this team. I'd love to see Devin Booker do well, let me see Chris, Paul get a title and I just woke up like what's going to happen? What is the future of the Phoenix Suns? Moving forward, will they be back? But of course, the story is Giannis and for many many, I mean, I years now, but I remember saying, like, can this be the year that Jonas can carry his team to an NBA title? He had helped but he watched him score fifty points in that last game six and you're like, it's just ridiculous. I I remember almost every year when I do like an NBA preview or talk about my thoughts on the NBA go, like, can this be the year Yiannis can push through and go from being, just a great player or two actually winning a title. And this is the year he did it off, he did it in his home City. And I am so at home, meaning like the place where he built his career and I'm so happy for you honest, and happy for Milwaukee. Correct? Congratulations to them the Milwaukee Bucks are a dog..
"josh allens" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"321. Oh my goodness, good morning, good afternoon, whatever it is for you. I hope you're having a fantastic day. My name is Zach. Tumblr is a strong opinion, Sports episode 369. Nice. It's a very very nice episode number. The NBA finals are over in Iraq now football season pretty crazy. We have, I saw today, there are 50 days until the NFL season begins and hold my goodness. Now, I'm so excited. I mean, I think it's very clear. Like I, that's my favorite sport. I cannot wait till football season, truly begins. And from here on out, like, I might have Austin on the show to talk about like the hockey expansion draft, that might be like on Sunday, I'll cover form of the one every two weeks. You know, there's a race about every two weeks but man like from here on out until like February or March, probably April when the NFL draft happens like dead It's football. There's now a football show for like the next. Again, occasional cover form of the one. We'll see what happens with like Ben Simmons in free agency. But for the most part, this is now a, a football podcast from here on out for like the next six months and oh gosh man. I'm so excited. It's very cold here today, it's in the sixties which, you know, it's July and Faith makes me angry, like, I really am excited to leave where I live. It's eighty degrees in Honolulu today, it's 65 last. I checked the weather and it's, it's, you know, afternoon now. So I live in most bipolar. It was a hundred seventy degrees like a month ago now. It's 66 degrees in July, I'm excited to leave excited to move. Moving has taken over my life. Now today, what we're going to talk about cuz again, next episode. Hey, football football, football film analysis. Like lots of stuff is on the way on today's episode though. We're talking about the NBA Finals game. Check out what happened. We will talk about Formula One. I do have a very, very cool guest appearance from a guy who James prices guy, I played football against him in high school, we go way back. He is now a coach at IMG Academy which is that's a whole story and of itself..
Baker Mayfield’s Contract With Cleveland Browns Extended Through 2022
"The Cleveland Browns picked up the fifth year option for Baker Mayfield. Guaranteed at least two more seasons of the man, maybe more. He gets that contract extension and he's eligible for He was selected number one overall in the draft. That included Sam Donald two spots after him, Sam Donald looking for a new start right now, with Carolina Panthers. You can also take a look at Josh Allen selected at seventh overall, he played at an M V p level last year. And then someone who did when the M V P And has a regular season record. This is just ridiculous. I think the record might be 30 and seven Is Lamar Jackson. Baker Mayfield is to do that's just like you would select the number one. How come the other two guys had better careers or better starts than you? Baker did throw 27 touchdowns that rookie year. He did regressing year too. He did light it up last year. Think Baker is the man. I think he is the long term answer. The Cleveland Browns. I think he is able to turn things around, especially with all of the talent that he has around him because he doesn't have to do it
Former Chicago Bears QB Mitchell Trubisky Signs One-Year Deal With Bills
"Announced earlier today former bears quarterback mitch trubisky signing a one year deal with the buffalo bills presumably to backup josh allen. There it is a two and a half million dollar deal with some incentives tied into it. That's injury presumably would be the other scenario. He gets beat out for the backup and he's the third. Is that one. maybe it gets cut. It's a there's a chance he'll be the backup. Let me ask you this question though. Because it's easy and it's if we're making fun of mitchell way or mitchell and that's worthy of being made fun of i think but not this. He's okay right you know. He's making more than a lot of hardworking people. You know literally do in a lifetime in this bad year but they are in the end of these players these reaching the pinnacle of their profession. And it's a billion dollar profession. They make money. They're supposed to make. I mean to me. The beauty of the nfl's rev share agreement. Is they're saying okay. The players contribute fifty percent the infrastructure. The all legacy to have the trademarks team. You know however you want to think about that fifty percent we take the money in. We divvied up and go. I mean to me that means that you can't even debate if collectively that you were jones but collectively with the players deserve their millions and millions and billions ultimately. They do that said we can. Because they're making so much money. We can have some fun with it. But i gotta be honest. I think that trubisky getting resigned by the bears was closer than we thought. Because i would make the following case. Let me ask you joan. What you would have made the odds. I don't we didn't do it at the time but right when this season let's say the regular season ended and those that remember obviously foles got her trubisky came back in play statistically significantly. Better at that point. I would have guessed about thirty percent chance. The trubisky would've had been rinse we signed in some significant way. Not like a five hundred million dollar deal but a real deal. I think the odds weren't worse than thirty percent. What would you have guessed. The is debate. I yeah i would have said probably about the same because that was a lot of the discussions i know in and around chicago that day. Did he play himself back into consideration for the twenty twenty one quarterback job and when i see him getting beat out for the job. I don't mean that. As a slight m i actually think. He's a much better quarterback than people give him credit for. I think for that kind of money if somebody comes in and outplays him buffalo's not gonna be tied to that contract like if he would have signed for seven or eight million
Dallas Cowboys Reach Multi-Year Deal With Star Quarterback Dak Prescott
"Salary cabin number for two thousand and twenty one is going to be twenty two point two million dollars all right now. Head dak prescott. In franchise tag again this will happen in a procedural sense but had to cow tried to go at this with dak prescott on the franchise tag for the two thousand and twenty one season. We've talked about this a number of times. That value would have been thirty. Seven point seven million dollars so the fact that the cow is now have him onto the books. We're talking about the value that is on the books in the books. However you want to look at the books whether they're e books or physical books whatever the case may be that value is now twenty two point two million dollars now. I know that we have all said some things about the dallas cowboys but they are not complete dummies. They surely budgeted for the franchise tag value. Because let's be honest. They came about twenty four hours. We think you know. Close to having the actually placed the franchise tag and maybe carried out with that prescott. So the cowboys have room for the franchise tag at the very least so you look at that quake matt that adam schefter was kind enough to do for you. That is fifteen point. Five million dollars that the dallas cowboys suddenly have because they've got this long term deal with that prescott. This is something that we've been saying for two years now. If you do this you can. You can kick this down the road. You can prorate it you can extended you can whatever term you want to put on it. You can spread the impact of the deal out of the signing bonus of the overall guaranteed money out over the lives of the contract so it doesn't hit you all at once. That's the one killer about the franchise tag is that it is fully and completely guaranteed in franchise tag is a one year deal so the value of it last year and dak prescott was on the tag for thirty one point. Four million dollars. The two thousand twenty dallas cowboys had to absorb that value all at once and they would have had to have done it again. Here in two thousand and twenty one but because they have adjusted that they now have fifteen and a half million dollars that they were seemingly budgeting for dak prescott that now they can apply to different areas. Maybe it is a safety. Maybe it's a defensive end. Maybe it's a defensive tackle. Maybe it's you know an offensive tackle. But they want swing tackled death whatever the case may be. We know that the cowboys obviously hold the tenth overall. Pick in the draft. They could go a number of different directions there. They wanna cornerback kayla farther patrick's retain do wanna take one of the tackles and rashawn slater as all this is. This is setting up and this is an important thing. I want you to hear me here and watch me here. You cannot waste this money. If dallas cowboys the whole point and getting this done with thac prescott besides obviously establishing having the best player on your team for the foreseeable future the point in doing this is to alleviate the salary cap space now. And i don't like the term when now if you watch us often you know that but you look state of the nfc east. It is by sudha. I mean the philadelphia. Eagles are a disaster. The new york giants doping daniel jones is legitimate. The washington football team has a great team but is void of the most important position of the game and a quarterback. Maybe they'd get somebody this cycle as we all expect quarterbacks to change teams at a higher rate than usual but the case in point is at the dallas cowboys are now. We're going to see this all day on tuesday by the way and we'll talk about it of course but they're going to be overwhelming favorites to win the nfc streit and you think about the conference that they plan is really a contender in the nfc. And i mean that with all due respect to the reigning champion tampa bay buccaneers. But you've got the bucks you've got the green bay packers and then who scares you. May maybe the rams you believe in matthew stafford but the point is thinking about the afc. I mean the. Afc has the bills and the ravens and the chiefs and the titans and the steelers and the browns. I mean you could go. A number of different ways. Did the colts have carson. Wentz ends up getting his act together and so the cowboys play in the weakest division in the weaker conference and so now they have this opportunity to really kind of take their future in the here and now they have fifteen and a half million dollars that they weren't necessarily planning on having use it and if they don't use it it is all for not so i mean we are all imploring the dallas cowboys to ultimately use this salary cap space. This is a very very very luxurious gift. That they now have been afforded that they didn't previously have so shattered of course to the dallas cowboys. Let's see here let's move. I'm i wanna talk of course about the bonus the dak prescott because well. It's stupid large. I mean it's amazing. Dak prescott has now the largest signing bonus in the nfl. You look at joe flacco. Once upon a time. Got forty million. Dollars matt ryan forty six and a half. Remember if you're on the fence about this value. We've talked about this before as well. Matt ryan became the first quarterback in nfl history to average over. He had thirty but to average at least thirty million dollars per year with his new contract that he signed with the atlanta falcons in two thousand and eighteen. That was three years ago. Dak prescott signed a four six year. Deal whatever you wanna call it. That was three years ago. They matt ryan signed that he was the first quarterback to hit the thirty million dollars a year. Mark prescott just hit forty but the reality and we've been saying this forever is that there are so many deals coming around the bend. Josh allens gotta get paid. Lamar jackson's gotta get paid. Baker mayfield's got to get paid extra calories. He's going to get paid the year after that. It's going to be time for joe burrow to finally get paid and when all of those players get paid this forty million dollars a year. Mark the dak prescott got this one hundred twenty six million dollar. Total guaranteed is sixty six million dollar signing bonus all these things that are currently the top of the nfl. The most in nfl history. That's the verbiage in determining that you're hearing associated with this and it's all literally true but it's all going to get pushed down because all of these players on this list. Joe flacco matt ryan matthew stafford at fifty million signing bonus. Aaron rodgers fifty. Seven and a half russell wilson not going to be a dallas cowboy now by the way sixty five million dollars. Dak prescott topped that all of these quarterbacks in all likelihood we'll top that that's the reality of the nfl things are always moving in one direction. It is up
What they're saying: Philadelphia Eagles, Wentz or other teams — who has the leverage?
"All about away. Bought away by the way. The miami dolphins got their guy. I just meant they got us. That dude is they got a guy young guy so let's put some. what are we talking about. Let's put the question. Then this way. And by the way i would say this right now to are coordinating producer. Pete mcconville and our producer. Allie grenade. i don't understand how we do not yet have a feature called jeff saturday. Who's high this week. I mean every week jeff. Hester name that's got to become a tuesday stable. Is this week. We make a segment out of everything on this show but markets very quickly. If the dolphins get forgetting about guam if the dolphins get to shawn watson are they the biggest threat to kansas city in the afc next year. Yeah they are. And i know i say that because i saw were buffalo did. But i'm taking the sean before. I take josh allen and their defense. I'm taking miami. Defense with the sean. Look the inspire football. You play when you have a guy at that position that you know you can't win wit. It takes it to a different level. I love how floor is coaching. But i do think that sometimes going in and out with fits magic and into mayor. Put this team in kabul unknown territory. About what their identity was offensively and the defense never had a question. About what their identity. Would you bring this on. You answer that question. That's our quarterback. Raise the level of play of everybody around you. Oh and yeah let me tell you why. Because he threw for the most yards went out of number one receive on team this year. That's how good he is. Listen this is a no brainer. I would love to see desha watson and josh allen go toe-to-toe for years to come in that division and see who can make it out and then get the kansas city potentially in the afc championship bottom line in miami. They've been trying to find the next dan marino for twenty years. They thought maybe you're still may have him into a tunga vilo but shawn watson is as much more. A known commodity will see if that plays out. Meanwhile quarterback rumors are everywhere including these that the eagles wanna move carson wentz. We know that. What kind of market are they. Finding darlington has the very latest. It could be very interesting. Plus lebron james having another mvp caliber season. You'll hear why jay williams thinks he should win the academy award as well. That's on the way this is get up on. Espn do you own. Read your home share. You and i bet it can be hard work. You know it's easy bundling policies with geico geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geico dot com on. We go get up. And another of the quarterback trade sagas continues this one involving that main carson wentz whom league sources believe is on the way out of philadelphia and the eagles may also explore options with his longtime tight. Ends zach ertz. Perhaps philly could include ertz in a wentz package to maximize trade value. Words has one year and eight point. Two five million dollars left on his contract it look. There's a whole lot of speculation in jeff darlington insider here. I'll start with you as to why no deal has been worked out with wentz yet and one of the ways that i look at it from afar is maybe eagles. Just overestimate what it is. People might be willing to give up for wentz at this point when you consider the contract that he has. It's essentially the same circumstance as jared goff in los angeles and the rams had to pay a team to take him off their hands. So is that how similar or those situations and could that be. What's holding this thing up. Well very possible. Greedy speaking with a source with the eagles who certainly understand everything. That's going on with this deal. And you know the one thing that he said. I said what's the holdup here in his answers february sixteenth. Today lear doesn't even start for another month by a bunch of exclamation points and there is something certainly to that. March nineteenth is the date that they'd have to decide on paying him. That ten million dollar rostov on this. This is the runway that they're working with now. Of course you do want to make sure that you make the most of your leverage multiple teams involved. You don't wanna lose one of those teams and then Maybe cost yourself some compensation from that other team but we can point out here that This this source also told me that there is no no trade clause in carson wentz deal so it doesn't really matter say he wants to go to the colts but they're getting more compensation from the bears. They could just send him to the bears. It wouldn't be a problem
Why 10 Super Bowl Appearances Won't Satisfy Tom Brady
"Hey thanks for joining me man. Good to be here. Seth wicker sham is a senior writer at espn and he's covered. Tom brady since his rookie year in the nfl. Words with you. Seth you are. Espn's resident. tom. Brady you've been covering brady for nearly twenty years. I believe at this point. You're the first person to report. That brady was looking for a way out of new england back when that was on thinkable and honestly kind of dangerous to suggest in the boston area. But your piece out. Today ahead of. Tom brady's tenth super bowl in tampa bay with the buccaneers. It actually begins a decade ago back in new england. What happened a couple years ago. I was in tom. Brady's house and we were in his living room and he was telling a funny story about bill belichick. It was a saturday morning meeting before a game against new york. Jets and bella. Check was watching film of mark sanchez. Running out of the pocket rolling to his right players it is heels and he had a wide open receiver about sixty yards downfield on the opposite hash. So that's an almost impossible. Throw to attempt. I mean few quarterbacks ever would try that throw even fewer would complete it and the way that brady told it to me. That ballot check was just watching the play unfold and he was like just throw it. He's wide open. Why isn't sanchez. Throwing the ball and brady's little thought bubble was hilarious because he was thinking. I would never even attempt that throw. Do you have any idea how i would look in. Tried to throw that ball. And meanwhile checks just like can't get even more open. He can't get more open. Just throw it in. The way that brady explained to me later was very interesting because he said i see each play within my limits at the time. I didn't really see the significance in that statement. But when you watch. Tom brady now aged forty three years old and the entire sporting world asking how. He's done it how he's been able to get another team to the super bowl. I looked back at that statement. And i found a lot of answers in it was brady frustrated with ballot check. Invalid check suggested as much. I wanna get deeper into. Brady's thought bubble there. I think he thought it was hilarious. He he saw it as a defensive coach who had no bearing on the reality of how difficulties throw that ball. He wasn't frustrated with ballot check. He was like a little amazed that bella check thought that that type of pass would be so easy i mean. That's that's a john elway throw. That's josh allen throw mahomes through. There's very few people who could ever even try that and here. Ballot check was talking about mark sanchez. Saying he's not going to get more open than that. Just throw the ball. As kind of an indictment on the quarterback where brady saw it as you know something that was hard to believe. Couldn't believe that that his coach thought that a throw like that with that easy. And when you look at tom brady look at the arc of his career. He's someone who's kind of always understood his limits and by understanding them so well he's found a way to transcend them so those limits that he has this keen understanding of and that being this superpower. It is something that we can. Plainly see in contrast to josh allen and john elway and patrick mahomes and lamar jackson. These absurd physical talents. And that's been clear set ever since we saw brady with shirt off to be honest at the combine in two thousand but because he is also the greatest of all time without real serious dispute at this point playing more super bowls than anyone ever by far at to ask if you fully buy his explanation that that superpower is in fact and understanding of his own limitations. At first i didn't. And i remember. I was once in his house in two thousand thirteen back when we thought he was getting old. 'cause he was going to be thirty seven when the season started. And you know he can't play forever and he said something really interesting. He said there's nothing that will be able to replace football. And hopefully it gets to appoint where there is when i retire in nine ten years and he said it so offhandedly and so smooth that it was it went right over my head. It was a shot across the bow. Here was a declaration to play until he was aged forty five and he someone who has made a mockery of conventional wisdom. And so i thought there is no way when he said that that he was someone who learned how to play football within the scope of his own limitations. But as you watch him play you actually see it on the field. And i think that it helps define him as a football player because he can't do what aaron rodgers does. He can't do it. Patrick mahomes does these sort of amazing acrobatic throws but what he can do and what he's always been able to do is pick apart a defense and bleed teams to death. And i think that that's what he was getting at when he talks about playing within his own limits because he's so deadly an accurate when he throws short.
Patriots legend Tom Brady among 4 quarterbacks facing off in the playoffs
"Legend is one of the four quarterbacks facing off in the NFL's conference championships today, CBS Cpk Ethan has more on those games. It's Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes in the NFL's conference title games all past league MVPs up incoming star Josh Allen is quarterbacking buffalo be the best version of myself and not compared to the other know three guys, too. Really Some of the best guys ever played the game for the 37 year Old Rogers of Green Bay. It could be a last chance to get to another Super Bowl. There's more opportunity, but I don't know. I mean, I really don't think that's a lot of my control. My future gives a beautiful mystery. I think brainy looks to advance to the big game with his new team Tampa Bay After a record six wins with the Patriots.
Chiefs opponent preview, AFC Championship Game: Scouting the Bills
"Later today. The Buffalo Bills make their first day F C championship game appearance since 1994. That's when they beat Kansas City in Buffalo on their way to their fourth consecutive Super Bowl loss. Today. The bills are the visitors for the first time in three postseason games against the Chiefs quarterback Josh Allen leads the bills against the defending Super Bowl champion Chiefs, whose quarterback Pat Mahomes just cleared concussion protocol on Friday. Hard tackle forced him out of the Chiefs went against the Browns last weekend. Take off this set for 6 40. If the Bills win, they'll try again for their first Super Bowl win two weeks from today in Tampa. The Bills did win consecutive FL championships in 1964 and 65. Before the league's merger with the NFL in 1970.
"josh allens" Discussed on ESPN Chicago 1000 - WMVP
"It wasn't anything, he said, and come that was clearly throwing the ball to the official and didn't he also say that Malcolm Jenkins at one point later in the game, said Norris, Jenkins said that yet generous check. It's okay. Yeah, there. Well, that's a good explanation that makes obviously that changes my stance on it. But well and go back to this, Tommy, you got supposedly Mitch. Is a great athlete. And yet is he Is he not turning and running like you used to? Because he's hurt, is he not? I mean the play going out of bounds. I got to think he did that because He just can't afford mentally. Throw his body in that in that way, a danger. What is your interpretation of that play on the sidelines? I don't know. Chris Black brought up a good point. Like a quarterback who knows it's fourth down. Does he step out of bounds? I was really weird. And I think I made that comment. When we were doing that we were watching the game on twitch. It was just it didn't make any sense to me. Now I'm not sure he would have gotten to the first down stake if, in fact he had put his head down and dove, But it just seemed odd to me that he would step out abounds at that time. I don't look, I'm not trying to tell you. He's the same athlete that Tyler Murray is or that That even you know, Josh Allen is no. He's a great athlete, though. He's a good athlete. He's more of an athlete than a quarterback. Ah, Patrick and Glenallen, You're on ESPN 1000. What's up hat? Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the call. And thanks really for being there for us all season and all year. Thank you. I have two quick points and I'll start with the clarification for why the offensive lineman is able to play for the package this weekend. That's because due to covert 19 this season, you could be elevated to the active roster without being signed to the active roster. So the Colts elevated veld here to the active roster. The Packers, then swooped in after the Colts lost and are signing him to the active roster essentially evading than the waiver wire. Doesn't that sound like a loophole that eventually will be closed? I guess it's a covert rule. Okay, so I guess this is like the flex the added flexibility that they've given teams on game day has allowed him to do this. So Is that all he wanted was that matches what else was it? I The second point is that we don't know what's going to happen, possibly in the coming hours or over the course of the off season. But if they run it back for another try in 2021, without an attempt to correct The many, many imperfections of this team, their shift this overwhelming sense of apathy. I was riled up for every game this year, and it was. It was a roller coaster of emotions. I genuinely don't think that I can do that for this same group for another 18 8 season. It's just so tough. Yeah, I get it. It's a good call. I want to know what Markey thinks. A marquees on Delhi's riding high little buffalo. Whatever scared terrified his buffalo Bill, you gotta he is Buffalo Bill put the lotion in the basket. You weren't nervous. Wait a good text chain going. We'll talk to mark about his bills. When And make a prediction. And what will happen over these next couple of days up in Lake Forest? All that with Martine Greco coming up next? You're listening to Waterloo and Sylvia on.
"josh allens" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"Have a Robin Hood of twitch who is who's been handing out subscriptions to it. There's a premium level of twitch and he or she, the Robin Hood of Twitch and the D a shows twitch. I've been handing out Free subscription, so we got to give them a hat Tip. Thanks. So much for hooking up So many of our listeners slash viewers on the D A shows twitch fee. Just search CBS sports radio every morning and you could watch us there. Now, Ben Volin. Is an NFL insider for the Boston Globe. And he has joined us many, many times and his take from June is getting dug up by bills fans and circulated around the The NFL message boards and Twitter and Bill's Mafia. Back in June, Ben Volin said he believed the Patriots were the team to beat in the A F C East. He said. I think you could have maybe even made that case when Jared Student was gonna be the starter. Now that we know it's gonna be Cam Newton. It's the Patriots. None of the other teams are quite there. Everybody's hyping Buffalo. They're coming off a great season or great by their standards. They have an excellent defense. Very solid coach McDermott bam, But I'm not a Josh Allen fan. I think they went 10 and six in spite of him last year, I expect the bills to regress. They're more of a 79 18 18. He then says the Jets were dysfunctional mess, although Sam Donald's gonna benefit from having Adam Gaze for a full off season. He says that the Dolphins air A year away. He says. The Patriots are returning a very good defense. They've got Cam Newton running the show. They're definitely the favorite to the A. F. C East. Direct respect. This obviously sounds stupid because Patriots end up being a 79 team. The bills were a Hail Mary away for being 14 and two Josh Alan and M. V. P. Kennedy and the Dolphins were better than the Patriots also, and the Sam Donald benefiting from out of gays. Definitely was not a thing this year, seemingly Can we can we hate on Ben Volin residence. It's all of our jobs to be declared of and to be defended and to have takes like this months in advance. I hate this and it's funded. Poke fun and boy I know I've been a part of those freezing cold takes tweets and all of that before. But, jeez, the guy went out on a limb and told you didn't believe in Josh Allen was that really news? Part of what Josh Allen did all year was basically put the middle finger in the air to a lot of people that doubted him proved them wrong. That doesn't mean we have to dance on everybody who was wrong. His grave. I mean, how many of these people are wrong about predictions every single week and don't have a microphone in front of them or doing interviews spots when they're trashing a guy that to their body buddies in the bar that nobody cares about. They were wrong about games. People are wrong all the time. It happens. That's the beauty of sports If we knew everything and absolute Lutely. Everything was a lock. Where would be the fun and watching sports? Everything would just be the most predictable thing ever. So I can't kill a guy for going out on a limb making a prediction and it goes wrong. It's ridiculous. But are we because we have microphones and paid professionally to do this? And to study it in to talk to pee, etcetera? Are we more responsible for good takes rather than just a guy talking at a ball? Yeah. I mean, yes, you're responsible for good takes, but I don't think then Volland having a talk about Josh Alan is just saying something to say something. I think he's watched Josh Allen play like some of us didn't have major question marks and believe they were progress. I don't think that's irresponsible to make that case just because it ends up being wrong. It is impossible. It is impossible to predict every game in sports or every season in sports. For the most part, I mean, you could figure out the MBA was probably gonna end up in the finals, but If you go out on a limb, you know, it's not that big of a women have a take. I don't think your ear responsible for doing so. Like then villain was an irresponsible for not believing in Josh Allen in the Bills. He might have a little Patriot home or ism in him, but I don't think it's irresponsible. So that I think is the key here. I also thought I didn't know that the bills were going to regress. But I worried about Josh Allen's inconsistency. I worried about his inaccuracy, and I felt as though boy, the bills have stub their toe every time we have thought that they were gonna take that next step. That it would just be par for the course of this was the next time so there was a part of me that was hesitant to embrace the Bills and Josh Allen as well. In fact, there's still part of me. That's a little hesitant to totally embrace Josh Al. But he has played so well here that it's hard not to be like You know what You gotta let all that that stuff go when he used to be. He's not anymore. I think the key here for Ben Volin was the Patriots Homer ism. Is that coming into the season thinking that they were the best team of the division?.