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The Kist & Solak Show #44: Eagles Embarrassed by Saints

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The Kist & Solak Show #44: Eagles Embarrassed by Saints

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin. So it's the Kistin Solex show presented by SP nation and leading nation. You are not flying high on the kissed end so lack show. This is forty four. Brought to you by the fine folks at Espy nation and bleeding green nation. I'm your host Michael kissed following at Michael kissed NFL as always during the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin so lacked band, man, I I know every day's a good day to be alive, but this one feels just a little less good. How you doing brother? It's a good day to be alive. It's just for other reasons that are not to the podcast relative to to a forty eight two seven loss by the eagles to the saints worst worst loss in history for defending Super Bowl champion while really. You're just pumping on all types of fun stats pre show at now you hit you trade traits. Trae Thomas tweeted that out shadowed try. It was Mike Rafah who said that seven points for the fewest. The eagles have ever scored underdog Peterson twenty four first half. Points were the most surrendered under Doug Peterson. It was the worst game the have played in a pass three years. Yeah. Total letdown total let down on the road. Not let down like didn't even expect them to play that. Well, just would have been like nice for the offense to string together to good plays men. They nobody like you. Don't get the sense that anybody on the team things that the team is good. You know what I mean? Like like, no one's. Nobody's like, you know, raw boom by nobody's got much fight to him, which can hardly blame him. The team is very very bad right now. Then you know, who's playing worse in the in the league right now, very very small teams play worse than us right now. Yeah. And it's and it's sad. Speaking of the offense. You know, we expected some sort of life from them or needed to see some sort of life before it got to the point will where nobody would give a darn what you did for the rest of the season because when it came to the games that mattered. They came very very short. They opened this game up with a three and out. There was the third down screen to Josh Adams, which I was not in love with and we'll get into play calling and everything like that. But I thought I should should've put it in winces hands and let him make a play downfield in that specific situation. I think there are people criticizing things that aren't necessarily the problem when it comes to the play calling in other situations. But again, we'll get into all that second drive. The they get a big return from Corey Clement. They go three and out. Then the third drive was the interception where the saints have on what they call drop kick coverage, and the eagles are running very common concept that we've talked about on this show to two man route combination of play action with a post route. And you get the over route coming from the other side, and what defenses can do to combat this is they can run. What's called the drop? Kick coverage where the safety will come up. And what happens is that corner. That was on the deep crosser can then kick back to a deep zone to also help. Out with that post route. And that's what you saw for. Marshon lattimore. So you saw him fade off of the off the cross or pass that off and then get back to the post. Route underthrown intercepted by Marshall. Lattimore really bad start for the offense bad start and bad game. For Carson Wentz. Just in that situation alone. Not confirming post nap that cornerback is a threat to drop back to that deep zone. Something that's been a common theme for him. Lately. Not confirming post nap in my opinion, anyway, but really slow start and for a team that really needed show some life in the first quarter. This was definitely not been. Yeah. It comes down to the fact like, you know, so he said are you Josh Adams screen call? And Carson Wentz. An interception down the field. Nelson Igor kind of not going to me that football. And you know, deep dropbacks in the pocket leading to sax on third and three right? We're gonna talk about that. By the way to go ahead. Right. Say, hey, here's the thing. Like, Mike Hourigan upset. During the game. So we were talking to each other. Because a everybody's very frustrated at heels are losing. And so everybody's just kind of wantonly critical. Just just have hazardously critical every play that has a poor result. Independent of how the results came to be right? Just poor poor analysis for process and it's frustrating when. Like beat reporters. Analysts who are relied upon to give good analysis kind of feed into the frenzy of obviously very upset. And and rightfully so fans that are upset with how the teams performing they feed into that negativity by just criticizing everything from from stem to stern criticizing play calls, despite the fact that they've liked play calls like that other circumstances had done. Well, criticizing wide receiver play in quarterback play. When it's. Oh, I it lacks like true depth of analysis. Whenever the moral of the story is this in my opinion. You can't lose to a team forty eight to seven unless literally everything is right. You can like you. You know, like, we, you know, I I'm sure you've got this going on right now. Mike, I people my mentions asking me I when we fired Peterson. I people ask me when we fired him shorts. People asking me if we cut Aguiar N Tate. So we can assign tyrel Williams. I people asking me on another go on a care member. Now where it's so weird because this team in this coaching staff is fairly close to the team in the coaching staff that wanna Super Bowl things have obviously not gotten right this season. Doesn't mean burn it all down, right? Wherever wherever you are listening to the pike s gentlemen, if I may impose upon you exercise think for a second about why it's so disappointing that the eagles are playing this poorly. The answer is because we've come to expect much. More from them. And why we come to expect much more for them because the data we have on the key players of this team includes a Super Bowl win includes a dominant twenty seventeen season. So the reason that they're such a strong instinct to say, you know, screw it like this is awful Yuna blow. It up is. Because we expected so much more. This is such a drastic is significant perilous drop off a huge delta between expectations and reality. It's how you get coaches who survive in thrive in mediocrity late Jason Garrett Jeff Fisher more Lewis lovey Smith. So they named who were longstanding coaches without great success. That's how they stick around for so long as because they meet expectation. So there isn't this fierce disappointment during the season because you expect from them mediocrity and you get mediocrity. And sometimes it's a little worse sometimes the little better. But you never thought it was going to be. Otherwise, we just want our first Super Bowl. Of course, we thought that meant everything had changed. Now, you have a team that is underperforming. Relative to talent levels underperforming relative to coaching ability. They're they're not getting lucky. They're not executing. They're not playing with fantastic effort than playing with great discipline. The play designs aren't as good. Carson Wentz is taking a step back. The office of lies with injuries the defensive secondaries dealing with injuries. There was a coaching talent drain. There's ninety five Jillian explanations for what's going on in each one of them is true certain degree. But the reason that I think that there's such a fervent, and and passionate pissed off reaction is because unlike we have ever previously experienced as eagles fans, we came to expect something better we thought that this coaching staff. This this quarterback this offense of line, this defense, whatever it was was another now that we didn't have to deal with massive disappointments from our football team. And as it turns out, of course, that's not the case. And it will never ever be the case. You know, ever like like like, you know for a long time like a team like New England has staved this off. And it seems like maybe finally might becoming for New England. You know, they're struggling a little bit. This year. Brady's got retire. And then they're come up. What is do will be done, you know? And so I think that we have to knowledge that number one. The problem is everything if this was a team that like if the eagles have hung tight with the saints on offense and the defense what has able to buy a stop in the fourth quarter, again, it'd be a little bit easier to say the problem was still the defense. And if you know the eagles defense was able to get some surprising stops against the saints generate some more pressure and the off it's only put up seven points. It'd be a little bit more easy to say. Like some have been saved at the promise. The offense reality is the vehicles got pants for sixty straight minutes is because the entire team is playing poorly right now. However, you know, if you were to look exclusively at the past four games of the season, you'd be positive that Frank Reich. Was the absolute offense of mastermind Philadelphia. Doug Peterson was a total of fake and a crutch in a a, you know, a poster not as I am just a fake. I can't remember the idiom I wanna use whatever if that's gonna four-game sample size. If you look at the twenty game sample size from the past two years. It's very clear that Doug Peterson is a fantastic. Offense of minden deserves a ton of credit you on to mean. So you can be narrowed on the four games if you want the wealth of data says that this is a team that could be very very good could be contending. They're not playing that way right now there's a ton of problems to fix Tom players need to get healthy. There's there's some serious introspection necessary from the front office, the coaching staff alike surprises it'll happen. But the problem is everything. And the reason it sucks much is because not, you know, eight calendar months ago. The problem was nothing. Right. And so it's been a drastic turnaround. We have definitely forgotten as a fan base how to deal with these types of situations in some of your actions that we're going to get to the reactions. We're gonna get. Three words where we have probably were what is all five hundred responses who's five hundred forty responses last time, I checked so. Yeah, that's that's that's wild and been dialing back to some of the criticisms that were laid on this game in lot of are totally valid is even pointed out the screen pass. I didn't like put in his hands. But like for instance, you get this third in three with four minutes in the second quarter. The eagles are down seventeen to seven in. Jeff mclean. Tweeted out quote players to execute coaches have to put players in the best area to succeed that's four down territory. The only thing that takes it out of the equation is sack. Didn't like the call. Here's the thing about that. Call you can't take a sack, right? So leave in a seven-man protection. We play action pre snap motion shows you that. It's man coverage Zakar first PJ Williams. I am taking that matchup and that protection a thousand times out of thousand if that's what I'd get. Right. So. Put hurts in wins in a position to succeed. Stephen was new sqi playing out of position at centre got beat by Sheldon rankings who is a monster. And we talked about him a bunch in the preview show. The other team makes the play sometimes I have zero interest. None in result based analysis designed to fit a narrative, even if the truth over consume of what you're saying is true using that example for me does not compute, and it doesn't add Vance the conversation at all. And I'd get it. We get pissed off when we went to put blame somewhere because it makes us feel better about the chaos that is, but we need to stop with calling everything that doesn't work bad in everything that works, for example, something like Josh Adams that is on touchdown run this perfectly blocked up something like that as something that shows that Josh Adams, for instance, is a feature back because I saw those takes too on the other side of the spectrum we need to be better at having those conversations and not just yelling at each other. That. Needs to be fired or this is because a, you know, a is because of be usually it's a much more nuanced conversation in football when it comes to that. So those the conversations that I like having with you, Ben because I know you're a rational person, and we like to go through logically and break them down not necessarily just say because you know, zero points were scored in the fourth quarter. It's all on the coaching. I mean, the execution was bad too. And it's been execution for a lot of the season. And you know, I don't I don't know where to place like like the big the umbrella of blame. But Ben these conversations that we're gonna have you know, as we progress through the season it as we look at the off season. But thing this this sucks now like you look at micro, and how can you justify what's going on with that offense compared to what it was last year? I mean Doug Peterson isn't going anywhere. So is Mike grow going to be the sacrificial lamb for what has happened so far this season? I mean, it's it's I think it's probably the likeliest move. The you can look at right now in terms of of a long-term move that there's a lot of good offensive minds in the. League and people who'd be excited to work with the Doug Peterson. With Carson Wentz. You're not gonna be bereft for options. Does it solve every problem? No. Who said kind of every problem is the problem here. It is important to know, you know, like a rising tide does lift all boats, though, in the sense that you kind of get the impression from Carson who had a really bad game that he's just trying to like power everything he's trying to get everything going like, you know, he fees feeling tons of pressure from the office of line. Obviously he's he's trying to make every single throw. And he's inaccurate. A lot of shortstop obviously took several deep shot two shots both of which turned in interceptions. As a matter of fact, which I don't hate you know, what I mean? Like, I can't you put a ball sixty plus yards down the field. You kinda need your wide receiver to help you out a little bit. Usually, you know, that's a must wide open. Your usually kind of making a jump ball contested catch situation McCarthy just generally struggled in the sense of escape ability and the and the ability to extend plays. It's not something we saw very much obviously had the picks and then Accu. Pursues all over the place and the own Carson's not inaccurate quarterback on Carson's not a quarterback who struggles to deal with pressure. Usually. I think it's simply the fact that he's feeling so much weight go down by two scores early to put this team on his back into into power of his offense. Carson a lot of pressure. I'm sure Doug is that very similar spot of were Doug is having the experience that it ain't as smooth sailing as it was last year in the scripts certainly aren't turning out the production as they were. There's no doubt of the quick touch ideas. The RPO ideas all quick short game stuff is not turning out the same production yards after the catch. He does not have the same running game on which he could kind of rely for short yardage situations. And so you know that Doug probably also under a lot of pressure in that regard in Doug feels the onus on himself to do at time. And that's why you get like, you know, first ten reverses to go to tape in an abusing eight yards. And that's why you get third in eleven screens that only end up getting ten yards. You kind. Get he tried to. You've Carson is trying to make everything happen. I think Doug who's kind of trying to get the the the burden off of Carson's back a little bit in that regards. I'm sure grow is dealing with a tunnel pressure though, he doesn't call plays. So it's mostly just weakened weak out stuff. He obviously has to step into huge shoes. Same thing goes for press Taylor ozzy's setting in John D full of both shoes. So you get the sense that if one domino were to fall become easier on any of the others for the offense. I mean. I have to deal with Subaru your day with health issues now in the offense of line in the sense that Jason Peters is clearly playing sixty five percent Kelsey goes out who guy was new skin there on the office of line struggle for the entirety of the game. I think we get in weaken. A a lot of people right now are touching back on the golden Tate trade, and yeah, like I understand the logic behind the Tate trade is talked about the time. Like, you know, this was we believe Tate will bring enough to our offense to help us become more competitive with zero competitive the division, obviously, two games in a tapes, not taken a significant amount of snaps garnered a significant number of touches he had today. I feel like six hundred bucks for the. Yeah. Yeah. So for the risk of the third round pick and the potential for basically, just the rental, none the Compaq. It's tricky right now definitely doesn't seem like Tate's providing the offensive returns clearly that we would have hoped we did as far as solving the problem. So that's there. There's another criticism that goes on the front office is a front office that seeing their twenty. Seventeen third round big received. Douglas, get smacked around the rest of that twenty seventeen class in the logic walls, Nate, Gary and shown Gibson L pump free are not offering anything substantial twenty sixteen a big v window Smallwood, Jalen mills all had most wa petunias over the past two years to release average themselves. The starters and have been unable to you know, you got at twenty eighteen class that you were a little wont for early picks of God. It's getting on the field that much Maddox goes down with a knee injury. He was kind of a crowning jewel class. Nobody else's participating this front office. That's been struggling as well to do. Good things in the draft. Like, I said problems everywhere on I'm sure everybody's everybody's job. Get a lot easier once kind of the dam breaks and somebody's really able to elevate their play. The question is, you know, at one point that can come how much is that can affect things. Philadelphia. Does not seem like a team who's gonna beat the giants. Next sunday. Like, I I wouldn't anticipate them winning that game. So you know, I it's not so much about saving the. Season as it is just being able to get the ship righted a little bit. Yeah. And flipping sized could this getting toasted up come out of the game? Sidney Jones would come out of the game. Who else came out of the game of data would come out of the game? Jordan Hicks would come out of the game. Jason Kelsey would come out of the game. Rick Levada would come out of the game. It just goes the hits just keep on common. So I I don't know unlock the biggest sports fan. I like I've said before I don't anticipate him being here after the season. So I feel you I feel anger with him. I do I mean, I don't know what to expect them to do. This patchwork secondary with been the reports. Because people have changed numbers in in whatnot. We've got new guys in like devante Bosnian stuff as the Bosnian. I'm like who's forty one? I there was one point snap. I couldn't recognize like half the second. This is just ugly. Like, you said, though, when it comes down to, you know, the Deppish that this team had are made worse with those injuries because. The drafts have not hit from what it seems like a has just beyond Carson Wentz. Those guys aren't making meaningful enough contributions to a mask some of those injuries in come in. Do that next man up thing is not happening for us that way, and obviously the secondary's a special case because they're getting just a rash of injuries in one place. But I mean who has been fantastic in the secondary for us other than Malcolm Jenkins writing run in cloud who went out early in the season. None of them really have don't think Sidney Jones played. Okay. There were couple of times where he he got ate up little bit. But I mean, I didn't the Joneses. It's literally it Cindy Jones's rookie season. Yeah. And he's playing do positions in terms of slot and outside and trying to couple Michael Thomas. I'd get it. Yeah. You can kind of call it still Soules like rookie. He had some starts last year. It's weird. The thing about the the more interesting thing with Soules not so much how much he started experience as it's that. They have been as resistant as possible to giving him reps above Jalen mills, which with how mills played is not as strong indicator. Yeah. So, you know, juries very much so Allan Sydney guys had a lot of good reps and has had his fair share bad jobs. A lot of rookie corners have Seoul is a little bit more so book that we're just wondering if that's ever gonna pan out yet knows corner, obviously is going to be a massive need for Philadelphia in terms of with round RBM a contract year. Now, he's I art is either going to bring him back is going to be on one year deal. How cheap is it going to be even if it is for a one year deal where you're still gonna have the next year's you'd better start drafting a potential star corner. You know, we didn't even get to it. Like, you know, this was discussed during the game so much other just awfulness going on. But to McGill on Hester still awful muscles does super bad. Mark Ingram goes for a hundred yards. Like like Ingram Ingram rips off like a. Thirty four yard like opening run. It was thirty eight yards. And it was tastes hills ceiling Malcolm Jenkins tastes in hills, lined up tight doubles as a wide receiver. Like like, I said, they would I thought that was adorable. Any did it a couple of times, they use tastes hill so much? They were trolling the hell out of us in using. So many of those tendency breakers this second I'll tell you right now. Sean Payton does not like Doug Peterson which makes sense Doug Peterson the end up on a couple times on the golf course in whatever. But the second Sean Payton came out with like, eight minutes left in the second through a pass with tastes inhale up seventeen to seven a drive on which the saints would eventually punt and Philadelphia would get that third three in New Orleans territory. So it could have been ten seventeen fourteen seventeen whatever still doing the second pay in the second pay through Pasa taste hill on first in ten in the second quarter. If just pay insane to Peterson like you guys have no chance of winning this game. We can turn this faucet on. Like and take my MVP candidate out and put my special teamer because hill literally special teamer and quarterback because you guys this no chance, right? And let me like that. Like the that fourth seven touched on Alvin Kamara such a good example because the game is already salted away. It's fourth and seven and paying goes. Well, let's just make sure Kamara still really good at catching balls down the field, still fine. Without you wanna make sure which I begrudge him nothing on that young. I mean, that's like we would we would absolutely for that. If it was thirty seven Philadelphia lead like we would one hundred percent be going for that. So we have to be okay with with, you know, the the hand the care and a stick I suppose when it comes around to the other way very clear from the beginning. This defense was gonna be able to do anything to stop the saints between -ticipant did especially as they crude further injury. There was going to be very little chance. The the only way Philadelphia was gonna hang in this game was the offense really turned in a blockbuster performance. Which? We didn't anticipate in the pre game shows, and we didn't see out there. So that was a that was a drubbing that that wasn't too hard to see coming, man. I really I really hated to see draft crush trae on Smith who I painted have a breakout game have a breakout game. It was the least happy of ever fell. Like, I am happy this happening. But it's the worst feeling in the world him and Keith Kirkwood, lighten it up good. Idea. Not camp believe we under looked. He didn't mention once in the previews for obvious reasons. Ben, screw this man. Let's get to three words, and let's get out of here. We all know what it is. It was a bad game. We didn't show up. It's been that. It's been the case for a lot of the season now. And yeah, we just got blown out by very very good. Very hot football team that we are nowhere in the same tier of the season end. I don't think me or you've been full ourselves into thinking that we would be in the same tier on this field today. So let's go to three words there are five hundred ninety five responses as I'm looking at it right now, are you are at be dog. Ten fire this staff with four likes. What are you people doing the whole staff yell van Braam hill at buns? Bramhall says Sixers are good which they are. I was driving back from Purdue Wisconsin the other day, and I get off again. Like, I dropped my rental. Unlike open my phone. Just to like, see what's going on. I have a Jillian notifications of messages on whatever. And it was right after Jimmy bother hit that game winner against the Hornets. Beautiful thing I love Jimmy bothering makes me happy showing Lamont at eleven. The goat says top ten pick question work. Look like we've said before I wrote my first read article for bleeding green nation dot com today in an -ticipant of this Oko check that out talking about some Clemson defensive linemen that we could be that we could be looking at because we don't know what the future holds for brand Graham, Chris long, Michael Bennett after two thousand twenty who else to Jernigan. So we may need to replace some of those pieces lament defensive line go check that out but top ten pick is very possible. I don't know how many more games team is able to put together the season as the injuries continue in continue and continue and continue to rack up. I like this one trae Alexandersson at t- underscore Ray. Eighteen says fire dog kidding? But then he also puts the thinking face emoji one like this. So I don't know why. So kidding, right? But also is he kidding? Because of the face so trays keeping us guessing man now, here's one that goes to a larger theme of what happened today's from. Jim bene- check at J Benchick. He says divisions wide open. The reason that the division is wide open that we have not talked about yet to apply that we have this Alex Smith thirty three years to the day that Joe theismann went down with a broken leg. Alex Smith has suffered a gruesome, lower leg. Injury foot. Turn the wrong way feel awful for him. Because when I was a kid I thought his name was pronounced like vise -ment like at Ryan with Heisman. That's actually why he did it. No. That's why that's why he says. That's why these men people say advisement, I say I'd say amazement because when I was a kid I read out his thought, it was nice don't they say at like five though, do they said these men actually way I shouldn't trust anything you pronounce. Okay. Lemme look this up. He's a risking quarterback. I'm not a fan of him to any degree, and I pronounce it these men because that's how it was originally pronounced changed thighs men because he was in the Heisman race in college. That's what I remember being. Anyway, I'm reading up on this right now key to continue talking about the thing. But Washington is in serious trouble. Their offense of line is completely beat up as we talked about last week Brennan Scherf going down the Volvo going down. They have serious issues there, then they lose Alex Smith. And then the Dallas Cowboys win today against the Atlanta Falcons. And with the momentum that they have going that could be some serious trouble for the Redskins. If they can't hang on a they weren't able to tie up the game with the Texans. They tried a sixty three yard field goal that hit the bottom crossbar in pinged out. So they still almost brought that game to overtime even after being down to scores. Believe it was when Alex Smith went down with the something broke into four legged we'll call it that some. Yeah. To be land and fibula while I broke, dude. I broke my tibia and kind of look like that. But not nearly as gruesome, and that's bad. News bears us. Yeah. That's going to be a fun recovery for him. I feel awful for man. That's terrible. You know to see that happen anybody that was super gruesome now that was that was just absolutely dreadful and Aikman made this point somewhere between nine and four hundred thirty times during the broadcast with that added context, it really is just shocking the loss that because eagles could a law beat that be the Cowboys loss to the saints. Obviously the extent which they loss to the saints does add to it. But they'd be five and five point with the Redskins are likely gonna drop in the division. Whilst starting quarterback to huge disappointment eagles for not winning Cowboys game. Yes. So you know, you've got four more division games to the Redskins. If you beat the giants and you beat the Cowboys. You're technically still in business. I don't. This this team played really really badly. And that's that's that's not good because that's bad. So it's tough to believe that they're going to this like that Cowboys game was a game. Like, this is a must winner, and they came out really flat. And this was a game. It was like man like we really need to pick this up in the chemo Superfly. So like, you know, what kind of expect from him here? I don't know. So it was it's pronounced these men, and that's his given names these men and then yeah. For the Heisman push. They started pronouncing it FIS men while he was trying to win the trophy this story. Screw him than any of the three words that you like before we before we get the heck out of here and start to transition to guy we got review this all twenty two. I just man draft work is looking really appealing right now. Somebody said watching the notebook and posted a gif of that movie. And I really liked the movie makes me cry time. I like movies. That's not true. I hate them cry time. But I enjoy them. I closed down this darn thing. Because I got tired of reading all the fire Peterson takes and everything. Like that. Let's see let me see if I can grab one more before we before we get the heck outta here. Don Conway at Don Conway, junior body bag game. It's the reverse body bag game for the Philadelphia. Eagles historic game will go down. No it won't. It's not a historic game. Nobody's going to remember this game at all until we played the saints next year or something to that effect. Saint frigging good, man. They are dangerous and that pass defense was in at all the Swiss cheese that we thought it was going to I'm just depressed rambling. Now. Ben, can we please end this. You wanna say goodbye to the gentlest by gentlest this last vestige? Thank you as always for listening to the kissing. So I show here on BGN radio. We do appreciate you sticking with us and reliving. What was a data? Forget for Philadelphia. Eagles fans everywhere. As always Ivan Benjamin so lack on Twitter ad Benjamin. Soul. That's the case Michael cast on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. That's K. I S T. It's thanksgiving week. So the schedule is likely to be a little bit abridged some different shows in different pairings, just as you know, I'm traveling around and obviously Stolnis cow in and kissed all themselves are with arrangements. So we do wish you a happy holiday weekend. If we don't catch it before them. But of course, you will be hearing a review shows an preview shows for the giants this week just the staffing in the scheduling and the dropping might be a little bit different. Right. I was listening. Yeah. Figured as much. I was just saying there's not gonna be as much as the show's going to be different. Because like, you know, I'm not gonna be able to do most of the shows this week for the for thanksgiving week. Yes. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to be working around that, but we're going to still be pumping out content. So the only thing it'd be missing is a is a couple few days of Mr. Benjamin. So which I'm sure our ratings are gonna take. 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Week 10 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Bye-pocalypse!

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Week 10 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Bye-pocalypse!

"Hey this is Caitlin Balaj for the Miami Dolphins and you're listening to the fantasy football. This podcast due to the fantasy footballers podcast coming to you from Pristina Auction Dot Com studios with your hose. Andy Sandy Holloway Jason Moore and Mike Right cool man unwelcome in welcome in our time. Hey Hey it's not every day but it shouldn't be any day really but it's not every day you get to use a Campbell is show intro straight from the laboratory that Kayla Balaj sound clip. It's like we ambushed him in bathroom today. Kaelin No it's terrible audio is very echoey in here but mind giving us a sound. We ran into him at the local fair he was in the PORTA quarter potty. I mean that's that's a delight Whereas yards per carry was as well all right? Well Command Tuesday November fifth. It's waiver everyday I. It's a very important waiver day. There are a lot of interesting names to bring up. Camouflage is one of them. Plow Powell Brown. How this time? It's personal for Bill Somehow still around a lot of decisions to be made by pacalypse. There are a a number of teams on. By I know Jason's League record roster needs about fourteen players this week. Goodness we'll talk a little bit later. The importance this week is monumental anya mental for most every team out there because if you have buys if your opponent has by taking a look at not just who you pick up but who do you drop. This is a week where I mean I. I have more players on by than roster spots. I need to fill that. I don't WanNa drop by math. I have to drop someone. I don't want to hobbies is hurting me. Head to toe. What is wrong with you know you might get one of those sweet like the self-named disease? Oh like the taste. Ah the Jason more disease. Wow that's real rank I mean let's let's get the disease you still order the Jason more the half I Lemonade sprite. Of course I do. It's delicious it's fresh. He stopped once. He couldn't get America to get. I want to say. 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I saw the win probability chart of the Dallas cowboys and from the moment the black cat ran onto the field old. They it was ascendant. Yeah it was a chart it was like they had a low probability of winning the game. Black cat comes and it's just straight to the moon. How does the cat just want to get into a stadium? Someone has to bring him right. They have to. That's not a cat. What's the probability that there was a cat a street cat right Tomcat? Oh everybody's going out. There somehow gets into the stadium. Adm then finds its way through a whole bunch of tunnels and doors and managed to get on the field so you think that there was a person that thought. Hey and forget the streaking thing. TOO RISKY WE'RE GONNA have. We're going to drop the cat but onto the field. They check your bags like is this under. Is this an under the shirt situation. Do they sell cats at concessions. I don't know what happened there but either way that cat getting on the field is unbelievable. Very entertaining We managed to piece together a league. One Victory Oh my on the back of Amari Cooper returning from injury which was kind of Nice. Daniel Jones was the leading rusher for the New York football giants last night. Not Saquon Barkley Sake. What had the worst game aim of his career on the ground? I think fourteen for twenty eight and then sixty or sixty six or sixty seven through the air to kind of salvage his night which he had a sixty five yard reception so six for sixty seven it means he had an incredibly inefficient night the entirety. Oh one plan from one play. Jason witten continues to own the New York giants. Eight for fifty eight Amari Cooper. Four for eighty and touchdown jar win got into the end zone on. Zeke was handed the ball twenty three times for one hundred thirty nine yards. We're still waiting for some positive regression Touchdown Weiss Physique. Yeah Yeah I mean He. Of course we saw this we. We've seen this before last year. where he I think? Last year he was the year where he had fewer touchdowns than the yardage judge employed. But he's he's got in the paper. This season Dak got off to a really slow starts such a strange game plan. I thought where take him. Apart with. Jason Witten COBB. I mean it was really bizarre. And meanwhile you gave the ball Zeke. And he's getting four to five yards every every single time. I'm all about beat on being passed friendly. But why. Are you throwing the Whitney Cobb. And not using Zeke or cooper brought it was it was very strange but they got w I do think the giants have a quarterback. I really do. I think that they should be excited about Daniel Jones. He makes mistakes. He does the rookie thing. But we've got we've got enough tape on him. Some of these throws that he's made. I liked the fact. He's willing to drive the ball downfield. Even though wasn't Peyton manning getting a one to one touchdown interception ratio his first year. He was air a turnover machine correct. He had a terrible interception ratio his rookie year. You heard it here I. Mike has not claimed that he doing back. Same thing even hall of famers can have a bad rookie ear. Yeah and and and Daniel. Jones doesn't look like he tilts win win. Those bad situations happen. He doesn't look like Sam Darnold. You know what I mean like. So far he's had some he's had some bad moments and I feel like he stays calm. Cool collected goes on to the next place. It's good You know characteristic stick for a quarterback it helps fantasy owners when you think about streaming Daniel Jones in the future that he's willing to pull the ball down and run as well six from fifty four in the ground. Let's Talk News. News notes from around the League presented by sleeper. All Right Preston Williams toys. ACL He will serve remainder of the season unfortunate. He was a bright spot on an otherwise not bright bright season for the dolphins Mark Walton was suspended for four games. This was unless something's changed since the last time miss other report this was directly correlated to the arrests in the off season. Not a new offense so he will miss four games and we will once again be staring down the barrel of Kalem Balaj Yep and updated news. This is kind of a big story. We'll talk more. We're about it in the waiver. Section but Lebanon underwent Mar.. I the jet signed Josh Adams off their practice squad however according to Adam Schefter as of a couple of minutes before this recording it is not because of Bell's knee injury per source. Bell is in one one word good so could be time. Montgomery's situation possible. Not Not likely though I mean he. He hasn't had carrie in two weeks. I think Blau pals had carries over the last two weeks I was going to simply say why maybe why debate who it is because it's not a really high Sich as not a good situation for any of you know you. You still need to be at least on red alert here not red orange. Orange Orange alert here for Lebanon Bell. You should be paying attention but to say they added him off the practice squad to block another team from adding him like people were scrambling this week. We gotta get Josh Adams Well Time. gummy limped off the field. Maybe it's related to that as well availability of time. Montgomery yeah I mean. I think that that would make a lot more sense. Todd Gumri is still out there on special teams. You know Josh Adams's replacing them. They're them at that makes sense. So we're kind of looking looking at. You know you get desperate by pock. Lips Kaelin Balaj all of a sudden the number one guy in Miami. Yeah and then you look at Blau Powell and La Belle situation. You have to monitor it a little bit. I obviously personally rather spend my fab on belies. 'cause it's known but not without if out feeling sincere pain in my body while I if you knew that Levy Obama was going to miss this week I would still probably roll honest. I would rather have Powell all if I knew love was out. I would rather have Powell the the rookie in Miami. I think he's worth whatever. We're getting ahead head of ourselves. OJ Howard ready to roll for week ten. According to Bruce Arians Bruce Arians also came out in publicly. Proclaimed Ronald Jones has earned the right to start and play more more snaps said pain Barbara. You didn't do anything wrong. You're just Payton Barber well and we talked about this early in the not you. It's you yes it's not me it's you so yeah you're you're you're you're fine. You're vanilla and we want some mint chocolate chip. So this is great news though because yeah Ronald Jones has looked like the better running back. He actually looked decent this last week. But it's been been very difficult to trust the Tampa Bay buccaneers. You don't know what they've what they were going to do. Because it's changed so many times so having areas come come out and actually declare. Look we're going to go forward to do declare Ronald to go look at the vowel. ooh It's just really nice for fantasy owners. You know if if Ronald Jones on waivers You know that's that's great great if Peyton Barbara isn't should be yeah and it it's just the eyeball test. I mean Ronald Jones made a step forward in his career. This year he added some weight he looks more explosive. You can break arm tackles which he couldn't do last year and so it is nice to get that confidence boost. Jacoby perset has a chance to play this week against the dolphins If you are the colts you're probably facing A. I mean it's a tough decision here right you just lost last week could one the game but you just lost your in a competitive division. And you're facing the dolphins you might think. Hey I can get by I with Brian Hoyer you can but you know I wouldn't take it for granted if I were them. If Jacoby COMPLA- he will play. That's I I don't think they. We'll do the wool rest him. We'll we'll take our chances with Brian. Hoyer there there in the thick of it they need to win. Paris Campbell fractured his hand. Will miss some time. Kareem hunt the soccer about him for a second browns coach. Pretty Kitchens said Kareem Hunt will definitely have a role in his his debut week. Ten against the bills coming up. What where are you at with the backfield situation on a very maligned Brown's offense? I mean you're still going to start Nick Chubb. I think he's going to be the primary ball carrier there. I do expect him to cede some work. He's GonNa lose four or five touches a game name impossibly more than that. But you're still going to start shopping and I think he's going to be great. The question is more so on the side of Kareem Hunt. Obviously this coming out is going to be involves going to have a quote role which can be anything it's it's dicey dicey proposition to start Kareem hunt week one But with this I mean I. I've looked at the league's that I'm in. There are so many rosters where you are saying. I got A. I don't have any running back on my roster because of these by weeks I've gotta go waivers pick someone up that's widely available and start him this week and it's like okay. Blau Powell. Let's say Love Bellas is gone. And so now it's Powell and Josh Adams and maybe time Montgomery for the jets Kareem among can have just as good a game. He's talented back more opportunities than Dontrelle. Hilliard Jason then. He had seven opportunities five carries into targets against Denver. You're saying Hilliard. That's what Hilliard had. So do you get to bring that up. He had seven touches. I think contest ten to twelve. Yeah I that's how I lean. Yeah I I think I think Kareem Hunt gets ten opportunities this game and that's for a guy with his talent. That can be enough now. Obviously the browns have been on the wrong side of the the field more often than not and you know the scoring opportunities might not be there for him. You'll be disappointed if you get ten. You know you get seven carries and three targets and nowhere near the goal line But but he is talented. I'm just laughing over here because he reportedly you guys talked about them blocking someone from signing Josh Atoms. Well perhaps it's the dolphins right. They lost Mark Walton for four games. I'm just picturing. You've got the bills in the Patriots here. Painting beautiful pictures on the canvas at the top of the division and here the the dolphins and jets are just a fling and fingerpainted each other. Turkey likes cocoa. I kept I kept Josh Adams from you Miami. What what are we talking about here? And did we mentioned the Deshaun Jackson News. We have not okay Sean. Jackson is having surgery three to repair core muscle injury. I doubt that he plays again the rest of the season. This is your fear. Andy you said this weeks ago. Yes we three or four as soon as it changed from Groin to abdomen injury. You were worried that he was gonNA end up needing this and I should have listened to what the instead of trading for I'm from me. Yeah Yeah that was great for me. The thing is this is a four to six week recovery timeline. So had the team you know. We don't know the details details. I am not going to presume upon their medical staff. I Sean Jackson could have very well told the team. I'm on the way back. And what do you do. You'RE NOT GONNA force a guy into surgery but had gotten surgery the surgery and you would like it six or seven weeks ago. He's back right now and he's healthy. Mistakes are made and that is you know unfortunate for this team may be you know. They make the playoffs. Maybe to Sean Jackson makes an appearance but is not going to help you. Fantasy team and then By popular request mediocre signing of the week the panthers have claimed wide receiver. Dante Moncrieff at Moncrieff was dropped over the weekend. By the Pittsburgh steelers. I mean this means that the panthers took a look at Josh Gordon said. Nah We're going after Dante Great does it. I mean the drop matters more than the signing yes signing doesn't matter the drop matters a little uh inasmuch as look deontay Johnson further submitting his role and I guest James Washington with the report Mason. Rudolph there you. Yeah yeah that's it. News and notes is always brought to you by these sleeper APP. You can download it for the latest fantasy football news and before we get into the all important by Pakalitha waivers section. Look men losing your hair. It can be up devastating. I can I can understand regardless when it happens. It's total crisis mode. But he look. You're no less of a man you don't have hair and your no less of a man if you're concerned about hair loss and anyone that wants to keep your hair look Roman makes it easy to treat hair loss without ever leaving your house. 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Well we'll put sixteen on by this week. What is the rationale here? I don't think I don't think they're considering fantasy football a ball enough in the schedule making process. That's what I believe. I just just word of Cedar Inconveniencing Mike in a severe way. It's just bizarre. A Raj you right we know. You're listening Raj. Yeah me and him. You know your clothes. I got to write to us. Okay sign sir sign that new. CBA and let's fix the scheduling. Okay thank you glad you and Roger on a short first name basis. I'm circle is Jay. It makes a big time waiver. Episode Brooks had the question before the show You're feeling better today right Brooks Brooks can you speak are you. Oh Yeah Oh. He's ready to go better. Yeah yesterday a little under the weather still thought through it and then one hundred percent maybe two hundred percents but you brought it up you said. Are there special waiver tips in mind with so many fantasy football teams missing studs right you you roll. Roll the dice your fantasy schedules out there. I have my opponent just week is only missing. One person it's not even a person it's a it's a team. It's the Patriots Defense. Oh so I don't have to face the Patriots defense this week but for a lot of opponents you know you have three or four pieces missing. I've got like three or four guys is out. How much are you considering? Your opponents needs on the waiver. Wire this week. I mean. That's a rare thing for us to do. You're not gonNA fill your roster stor with that age old. Do I grab all my all the handcuffs my opponents and fill my bench with them but this is kind of an interesting week where review pick up a certain player. Your opponent certainly can't. It's the old keep Josh Adams away from the dolphins trick. Yeah the age old time tested proven Keep Garage Adams of our. We're giving Josh Adams to my opponent. Very well yeah the the reality is it's so different for every team right like my opponent. This week has nobody on by My opponents opponent has everybody on by this week. that you that'd be me took like me as second but this is you might not be able to block. The rules are care about your team. I build your team the best you can but this is a week where or you WanNa take a peek ski at your opponent. If it just so happens that they have a position of need where they don't have someone to start and there's a clear waiver ad then yeah you make that block all right so let's talk about the wide receiver position probably owned but worth checking on is Muhammad Madison new. Now the Patriots are on bond. So this may be a situation where you check once today and you check twice tomorrow because if you are in a bypass Situation Jason just talked about it. He needs more guys and he can even drop. Some teams may be backed into dropping muhammed. snood simply because of the bye week by week problems then tomorrow is going to be an awesome date free. Drop it like it's hot. There will be so many players that should not be dropped op. That will be dropped. And if you are if you've got a good record and you know you're you're not in bipasha clips. Look those players are situation Brooks in is team. We have to drop. We've got four players on by wince hurts Terry. maclaurin and Royce Freeman. We need. I don't WanNa drop any of them but we factually have to. If we want to you know feel a roster so one of those guys is going to be hitting waivers and that's going to happen throughout tons of leagues and several teams per league so muhammed to keep an eye on them for eighty one and a touchdown on fourteen targets played one hundred percent of snaps. They need them. That's why they traded a high draft pick for him and he has shown up. It's a team with a great offense so keep an eye on him but if you look at main waiver wire pick ups for this upcoming being weak their next bed at the wide receiver position now. They're interesting for sure. Devante Parker is near the top of my list. If James I guess Jamison crowder will be number one for me. Fifty four percent own but obviously has a reporter with Sam darnold gets to play. The giant matchup is great. Should be peppered with target so jamison. crowder is at the top of my list. But devante Parker going to have a very defined significant role as long as Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzpatrick is the quarterback for for seventy sorry. Four fifty seven and a touchdown last week. He scored a touchdown. In for the past. Five Games. Preston Williams is out. Yes yes and so beyond those to eat Zach. Pascal would be the other guy to be brought up. Five for seventy six and a touchdown on six targets you. You Know T. Y.. Hilton is not going to be back for a little while. And they have Miami Yeah. Paris Campbell broke his hand T. Y.. Hilton is out Miami Zach. Pascal is a perfect guy. That's widely available in the majority of leagues and you can pick them up and start him. You know if you're I mean that's the situation we're talking about for waivers. Today's not you know stashing Mohamed Sanu yet but for this day. It's who are you playing which matchup this week. 'cause I think that's the situation. Most common is people that need need a start this week. Like Jamison. crowder is great because of the matchup. devante Parker is great because of the air yards but doesn't have the best match up in that Indie game. Who would you rather play this week? devante Parker at indy or on the other side of the Field Zach. Pascal I lean in Parker Myself Mike where yet that. I think it's Parker but it's it's very very close but I also agree that crowder would be number number one. I save it the Pascal Direction. You have percents is there. It makes me difference to me. I know you kind of feel confident. Either way with Hoyer I would like to see percent back out there crowder is at the top of the list other options though the number four on this list for me is going to be Josh. Josh Reynolds We didn't talk about Brandin cooks. But brandin cooks is with He saw concussion specialist. Yesterday we heard it was a positive visit and then today the the the news is coming out. There's really no timetable. For brandin cooks to come back. He has a large history of concussion. Problem so I'm expecting him to. He'll miss this week. I think it could turn into a multi week absence. But he's GonNa miss this week. That means Josh Reynolds time. He gets to take on Pittsburgh not the best match up but he will be on the field last week eight. He was three for seventy three with touchdown on eight targets. So he was is the guy when when brandin cooks went down. And we've seen Josh Reynolds fill in. You know admirably over in the past win the rams a wide receiver. So he's he's not at the top OP. Those I like those other three guys better but perhaps you are down in the waiver. Line in Josh Reynolds is a is an okay consolation prize all right. So here's a question question. Two guys that are benefiting from injuries to other wide receivers on their team. Would you rather have Josh Reynolds or Chester. Rogers Talk Zach Pascal Rise. He was on the field for more often. Ninety plus percent of snaps was the main guy but chester rogers. Also also very involved with Paris. Campbell and T. Y.. Hilton going out for the colts. Those who would you rather start if you had to pick one of those two guys up for this week. I'd rather play a rental. I think his opportunity is a little bit better. He actually has a jared goff and also for Chester Rogers. It's it ain't easy being cheesy easy. I get it. That's pretty. That's all right yeah. I don't mind that. No three for twenty two and a touchdown last week. I'm with Mike on that though. Job Difficult Cole. Being cheesy. That's it's not is not easy. Oh so you go. Josh Ronald might be easier. I call it. You ever tried to catch the ball with the cheeto dust on your fingertips very difficult. Very he has though unfortunately has tried that. So it's a whole nother discussion over the ball. You've also got the Tennessee. Do a of wide receivers who have been terrible title in the sense that you're not picking the right weeks. You know what I mean like. They've had great weeks. They've had good enough weeks where they say. Start me put me in in your lineup and then use your name old story. The they've told this tale to their children's children for years. I mean this is the same story book for is is it going to be Brown or maybe Davis will have a week every four times and then L. JOE new. Oh Goodbye Joni in Iraq. It's Kansas City. Sure to be affair. Aj Brown. I don't know his actual finishes on the week compared to other wide receivers but since Ryan Tannehill has been in six for sixty four for two for eleven but he had the touchdown and then this past week it was four for eighty. One I think you can so if I have to pick one I'm going with. Aj Brown you can teeter on on the edge in play either of these guys but you're you're right. Aj Brown has a little bit more. I think consistency to him. Are you thinking about Josh. Gorden Jordan as a star in any capacity this week against San Francisco. Not no I mean not really gonNA pick them up. But I don't WanNa play him so would would you. So let's say you need to start. Okay I do I do Jason. You need to start and Josh Gordon and AJ Brown out there Brown. You'd you'd rather or have even this even considering the season long aspect of maybe Gordon coming onstream. If I'm picking up a player to start this weekend like that's really important. This weekend's important I have to win I gotta get points. I'll figure out next week next week. Kobe scored touchdown in three straight games. They play Cleveland. He's another spot. Start candidate in two targets in this past game. He did but he has been productive for fantasy. How about how about Russell Gauge? I mean nine targets against Seattle. That's the Atlanta wide receiver who now that Mohammed Sununu is GonNa step into that role any CAN I. Can I interest you inaugural not really. No no I'll pass. He's somewhat interesting interesting to me. Am I dumb for that. No but deeper leagues. He's interesting. We just played. I mean you're playing roulette there too and you're you're dealing with Hooper Ridley Julio Yeah four option Atlanta wide receivers. Are you know it's not like Games too I guess. I'm just not excited. I'm sorry did uh I'M GONNA look up Justin Hardy. I'm just curious how that broke down. Russell gauge was in on fifty. Six percent of this right and hardy was fourteen percent. So I'm actually interested in Hunter Info. I believe that his he you know he's a rookie. He's on boarding. There are limited pass catching options in in Oakland. Derek cars playing great football two consecutive weeks hunter Renfro He's got the Thursday night game. You six for fifty four and a touchdown last week and had the monster breakout game the week before. He's also two percent so when I'm looking for spots art he's a he's near the top of my list of the non guys I really I really Larry I I I like to rent for. I think a talented player. And you know he's he's meshing with his team. The only issue I have in the spots start nature. There is a I. Just don't love the matchup against the chargers who have been pretty good. It gets the pass in general this year so I'm looking for a start this week. I think he'd be a little bit lower down on my list. Mike are you starting hunter in for a J Brown. ooh That's a great question I think I would start Brown. I would as well any other names that you want to bring up a wide receiver. I I've I've exhausted the names I care about. Yep Okay running backs Jalen Samuels probably owned. If he's not he caught. Thirteen passes passes on thirteen targets. This is very much like the Austin Ecuador game of three or four weeks ago. Where yes it is? What do you guys think of Mason Rudolph? I think stinks. I mean I think he objectively has been terrible. Sometimes I think he's okay young players. Don't show the deer in the headlights glances. He is very overt with them. He's shaky but then he has. You know here's like a solid quarter or two in this team's won on three straight games. So yeah I think he's okay. Jalen Samuels you gotta peak and see if he's there especially if you're and a half or four point. Pr Get. He's probably not there. It also gives me leap higher confidence for James Connor when he actually comes back when jailed samuels is putting up eight for ten on the ground and they're thrown guys in there like Trey Free Edmonds to carry the ball. Well that's the name I wanNA bring up. Now is Trey Edmunds. Pittsburgh running back stepped in as the backup for Jalen. Samuels really was is the much better between the tackles runner. Well he had A. I'm not sure how long run but he had A. I think it's I carry. It was like fifty yards data. Work work so yeah he he did not taking away from him but just much like Saquon week where you look at it. That was one play K. We got one play from Trey edmunds. What is the probability? See that tradesmen's is going to give you another one big play. I think the hard decision is some you know. He had twelve carries last week. This team can't put it on the shoulder of Mason Rudolph throughout the game aim so splitting the work. Jalen Simmons Way Trautmann's way in a game against the rams. Are you more excited with. Maybe getting you know. Twelve the fifteen Kaelin Balaj carries in Miami or ten to twelve treadmills carries on a on a Pittsburgh offense. Because you probably not you probably have to pay Fab for Caleb which will again bring tremendous physical pain yes. You won't likely have to pay as much for Trey Edmunds kamins. And I'm just wondering if there's not very much of a difference in the output yet I think I leaned the Kaylynn Balaj way I will say. It's yea yeah we saw Trayvon's get the twelve carries this past week but will it. Will it really shake out that way in. The same thing goes for Miami. I know he has been inactive basically the entire year but this team drafted miles gaskin. They did not draft Caleb laws. They tried their best to make him their starting. Starting running back it. Just he would never sees the opportunity. I think miles gaskin is a pickup to to wait and see. I'm not starting miles gaskin but what I'm saying is it will shock me to see it. Be Fifty fifty with Balaj and gaskin or even have gas can be slightly ahead of him and touches coaches yeah. They've they've already seen Balaj stink all year. I mean the the issue here is the dolphins in A. I don't WanNa pay money on the lodged over the course of the season reason you've had a Balaj with his opportunities drake with his opportunities and Walton with his opportunities the highest running back finish on any any week for any of these guys was Kenyan Drake at running back twenty three now if Balaj comes in and is running back twenty five. I think that's a pretty good outcome. That'd be great if you're struggling the waiver wire and yet twenty five. I mean it's not great but it's it's serviceable but that's to me. That's the highest Outcome for him. So I'm not if he's going to cost money if people are bidding up on Kaelin Blah. I'll I'll throw a five dollar bid out there under Or zero dollar bid in case. Nobody grabs him. I just don't want to spend my fab money on a guy that I think is going to you know. I haven't been a fan of him in general sir. I've Okay Kayla Balaj or a few weeks ago. The waiver wire darling of that time tied Johnson for Detroit. Reut Man I lean Balaj. I went to the matchup for Stafford in the lions is against Chicago which caps a little bit of upside upside not a lot of work for TI. Eileen that direction Amazingly incredibly. I mean we should have brought Ronald Jones up at the top up. Probably but he's only forty percent. Yeah and I verified that in the end just now before I brought him up because it shocked me but Ronald Jones would really be yes. Your best case scenario at running back up top claim. Yes he is. The number one claim in fact I would. I would argue that he would be the claim. over Jalen Samuels. Even though Jalen Samuels might be a better spot. Start for one week. And that's debatable. Right but Ronald Jones gets Arizona. So Oh that's super debatable. But you know this is Ronald Jones taking over. He's he's the number one running back. Pick up for sure all right. Other names Kareem. Hunt Blau Powell. If you believe led bell has an issue I'm not super excited about Palo wouldn't spend up on him. The there's not a lot of open open roster spots this week. There's not a lot. Sometimes we come into waivers and we're like this is not a play. This is a stash Mike. Ripe stashing thing is going to be difficult for a lot of teams this week and so right now. We don't have a reason to believe levittown. So are you signing Powell at the expense of somebody else. I'd I'm he's going to be lower on the list. Compared to these other running backs were talking about. How imagine that more news would come out now because of the Josh Adams signing? I'm sure looked new. York media's usually all over this oh by the end of the day will have more information there. He would obviously obviously skyrocket if Levy's out or appears to have a serious problem You know if you don't hear that he's got a problem then he's going to be much lower on my list. I'm focused on Ronald Jones Trey Edmunds obviously Samuels Kalem. Balaj and throw Kareem Hunts name into that media you guys. I'm looking to pick up and if you don't have to use the roster spot this week holding a player who's on him by week and picking someone up for the weekend you need need to get the handcuffs like if you're if you're good. Let's say you're Jason's opponent and maybe I'm going to try and block Jason for picking up a guy a prob- maybe not because you have many targets you can go after but I'm throwing Madison on my bench. Pollard Gus Edwards Rashad Penny Reichel Armstead. And All we've been saying this for a few weeks but I'm serious. This is the time if I I'm not picking up. I don't have to play him right now. I'm not picking up tie Johnson. I'm not picking up these wide receivers where we've been talking about. I'm putting Lotto ticket handcuffs that will explode in value if the if the start in front of them Mrs. Those are the players that will especially be dropped win. Waivers run tomorrow era so your drop it like it's hot. You're just opened and Tony Polish. Right they might be out there already but if they're not if people have to make waiver wires and they had to cut a handcuffed this week. Because I you know of preparation then they'll be they'll be released speaking of which if you had to decide between Darryl Henderson Malcolm Brown on your roster. If they're gonNA go and Henderson I I I would go neither. I mean you're talking about picking up handcuffs for this week. There's no greater situation arguably early than one in Los Angeles Malcolm Brown has been hurts. wiling Henderson size. Yeah I mean obviously if Malcolm Brown still her it would be Henderson but if Malcolm Brown were hundred percent healthy I assume he'd still ahead of Henderson. That's why I'm saying in the nebulous situation where you don't really know whenever there's a handcuffed situation where you're not sure is this guy. Handcuffed very easy not I would rather pivot to someone I know is a handcuff is more. Let's say you have girly if I have girly. Which only picking up right now Henderson? Until I hear that Malcolm Brown is healthy the last name I throw out. What about nine? AM hines with all the injuries. To wide. Receivers is there is. Is there the opportunity that he actually. I mean he hasn't really been heavily targeted this year. Not Interested Myself. No Yeah I mean. It's it's tough because he needs to do what you haven't seen yet this season which is get really involved in the passing game. It could happen because of the injuries to Paris Campbell at Not Hilton. I mean desperate times. Yeah I mean they're not gonNA lineup wide receiver on every play right right in the absence of Hilton and Paris. So I don't think he's still a lot of Max snaps yeah. I don't think he would be stealing. Max Snap so much as being targeted ended when he's in the game more because the lack of other options I shall we talk about titans. Yes I would've brought him up with Josh Reynolds Discussion. If I didn't no we're GONNA talk about them right now but Gerald Everett Joe is going to be another beneficiary of the injured brandin cooks. I have probably slightly more confidence in Everett's involvement than I do Josh Reynolds. Personally ever. It is fifty eight percent so if he's on a roster you can't sign them that's the way it works. Unfortunately but I'm interested in Everett as a as a spot start. Do you guys agree are yeah. He's he's a great spot. Start to me in the sense that you've already seen him have several very big games. Pittsburgh's defense is great and usually usually those really good defenses. The place you need to beat them is with the tied in with not your first or second option so I think Gerald Everett's fine the hard thing for me. Whatever it is? It's been you know a either really hot or very cold and you have the game that was against the Cincinnati bengals. That's very plus matchup for really everybody. But it's a plus mansion for tight. End Brennan Cooks went out right away. And you sought Everett's snaps. Go down the only three targets that we do make anything out of that. I read just wipe out that much. I like that. He's on the field a lot. I liked it. He has three top top five finishes at the tight end position since week. Four I just want a little upset at my tight in. That's all I'm saying. It worries me to roll out. You know just a middling pass catching option at the position. I would like a little bit of possibility so Everett or Oj Hauer. Let's let's talk. Jay Howard is pretty available. He is quote ready to roll. He's playing Arizona Cameron Break Anthony. Auclair are both pretty injured right now. I don't know if either of them suits up against Arizona. But I mean the way that I look at it and I know that it's tough. It's tough to tell anybody. Hey Play uh-huh Jay Howard because he sucked all year long but he is still an incredibly talented player we have seen him dominate on the NFL field. Before this is is a team in Arizona. That's terrible against tight end and if you say. OJ How it's going to go through the whole year without having one good game I'd be surprised. Pick a game. I mean there's a lot of things in play here to say. Oh Gee I mean I'll. OJ Howard is. I'm starting bring him this week in replacement of Zacher. It's I plan that last week so I'm putting my money. Where my mouth is? I think that the upside is there. Certainly certainly with all your waiver wire titans. The downside is one for two or zero four zero but not everybody has the upside the owner Howard can have all right well. Speaking of upside in Miami Mike Kosinski measurable Freak One of my favorite pickups. This very the high far very high draft pick Preston Williams was the bright spot for Miami. He's gone and six last week. Six for ninety five Yeah Ah Oj. Howard I'm picking will take a sick? I'm picking up. You're sick and this is just what it comes to week. Ten guys you either either do you want to be punched in the face by. OJ Howard again. Are you willing to be. He got a son. He's got a strong right hook. Bright ran seven routes last this week. Yeah the other guys. were running around the head of him which is where I think. OJ OJ Howard. A couple of weeks back. I mean when he had a bad week he was the number one routes in the League at tight end which seems impossible because he wasn't targeted that being said so Indianapolis Colts which is the matchup for sickie. Their twenty eighth against tight ends so yes. It's tempting I think the way that I look at it is if you're if you're in the realm realm where you've just been struggling with tight ends weakened weak out everything sucks then get sickie has a like I would rather have him but if I need a single spot start I'm still going. OJ Howard for the upset concerns on. Yeah I the floor is is it's dirty with. OJ Howard movie theater. I don't disagree agree with you that he can have a big game. He just hasn't this yet. Thirtieth Eighty seven fourteen twenty fifth forty second twenty-first and while a lot of things point to Kosinski being very good play the matchup. The game last week is measurable Z- That is literally his first good game as an NFL player. So you know I got a pump. The brakes little. They're fifty yards week. Six He's actually been tight-lipped he's been inside the top sixteen at the position for three of the past four weeks. I there's risk there. There's huge risk. He also plays for the Miami. Dolphins Kaczynski is risky. That's right yeah be effort for effort but yeah but but Nice public attempt could've gone with risky. Oh Wow yeah. That shouldn't be a second effort. You give him a B and c effort in five minutes. Man Chris Herndon are we under Chris. Herndon does have a match up with the giants. This week I'm sorry Ryan Griffin is running a ton ARAUZ. Chris earned his chasing the dragon man. But you can't have any confidence in them right unless you have. What if you have a week of full practice are we on board with? Chris Herndon this week if he has a week of full practice every day. Then I will be starting him this week that that's all I'm asking I he's talented. The matchup is there. We've seen a lot of these. Titans I'M GONNA need. I'm GonNa need a full week of practice does and I'm going to need at least some some inkling from the be whole actress earned and is GonNa do out there. I don't want any inklings from the bureau uh-huh inklings no ankles no winkles. Nothing's please far far away weeks. No stinks no nothing I know some people are saying. Why aren't you running after Jacob Hollister and Abercrombie? No No. You're not but Jacob last week four for thirty seven and two ran a tunnel routes Russell. Wilson's a magician. I'm not chasing after myself. He's obviously known in most leagues. He Has San Francisco this week. Ed Dickson maybe making season use reason. Ed Dickson Adam Asam Red Dixon. Ed Dixon Arthur. Mix with Jacob hollister crazy Luke Wilson. I'm not willing to take the chance myself. I mean but you are on Ed Dickson though right no no come on man. I started up red dead last night again. You in about sponsored this is not hashtag sponsor. Wish they were but Let's just say started. Dixon don't don't really adultery owelry on at least ran the third most routes at the position. It's just a one off man. Here's the deal they play against it is is is well. I mean you can do whatever you want tight in. That's literally the rule of the tight end position. But I I mean I'd rather go Everett Howard heard in fells while fells is on by For sure Johnny Smith F delany walkers not back which he may be Kosinski. San Francisco is averaging giving up four points. It's a game to the tight end position. It's just that's where I'm going to take my shot. Yeah Jacob Hollister undrafted did measurable UNIMPRESSIVE. Not Saying he can't do it you know Russel's and could turn it's getting loose well Luke. Wilson wasn't really doesn't belong on a football team. That's true. But he's still catches fastest from Russell Wilson Week to week. But if ED Dickson is out there in new rolling three tight ends I guess I'm just kind of not excited. These other namely these other names are head and Jonah Smith I know yet down game last week a good game two weeks ago is Kansas City but Delaney Walker is is out of the walking boot is saying he's good to go for practice so you're probably looking elsewhere. Yeah Yeah if walkers out though I don't mind the jet stream full stream ahead are I quarterback streaming streaming options on a week when you might need 'em who'd he got. I'll jump in here. I'm going Ryan Tannehill. He's taken on the Kansas City chiefs chiefs since becoming a starter. He is the quarterback ten in points per game he surrounded by weapons. And if if Patrick mahomes homes is back as expected I mean that just raises the over under of this game that raises the probability that that Ryan t will have to throw so I think he's a fine streamers we yeah for me. It's it's the guy we watched last night. Daniel Jones He's had some ups and downs to be sure he's he's is not a perfect prospect but you have seen monstrous games. You have him being the quarterback one the quarterback to on different weeks. And it's a matter of does is you have the right match up. I think the jets are in the process of four collapse implosion. This game is in New York. So it's technically a home game for the jets. But you know the. It's the same stadium and his rushing. I mean he was the leading rusher last last last night it just gives him a a slightly higher baseline where I believe he could get the job done He's not my favorite streamer. Certainly I would provide and I can. I'm I'm not Obviously I made on my stream. I would prefer Andy's guy but he might not be available. Jimmy Garoppolo is my streaming quarterback candidate the Seattle seahawks. You know if you look at our stream finder tool we show you the amount of points they're giving up to the The fancy quarterback position. They've given up a top twelve performance at the position for now. Six straight weeks. Their Games in San Francisco. It's on Monday night Emmanuel Sanders. There's raises the floor. You're Jimmy Garoppolo for me. And so I think Jimmy G. is a great spot. Start if you're in the boat of you know you're missing using out onto Shawn Watson. This week Tom Brady Carson Wentz. These are starting quarterbacks in your league and so Jimmy G. I have a lot of confidence in. I think there are other options. Were throwing out there. Like Derek Carr. Yes the match isn't ideal against the chargers but carbon very consistent Jason. I know you say you could do worse than Brian Hoyer. I believe that Brian Hoyer will get it done for fantasy. If he's the starter I I think that's the truth and that's all set. You free the problem. is you see you can't really pick them up right now. Because with the report of percents I mean either one percent or Hoyer. But you don't know who's GonNa play it. Yeah I think I think one of the the tight ends may very well benefit from the you know you brought up. Naim hines and we brought up Chester Rogers. I think the titans could be the ones that provide the safety valve for Ryan Hoyer and fill in for Helton and do do all of that. So let's talk. Defenses defense versus offense presented by head adding shoulders and Walmart. All right. Let's talk about streaming defense options heading into week Tan Han Mike. I don't kick it off here. I'm going with Baltimore Against Cincinnati Petra. Homerun People Baltimore's on the waiver ever wire because he didn't WanNa play them against the Patriots and rightly so but they actually played very respectably against the Patriots and now they get to take on the Cincinnati bengals and a brand new quarterback for Cincinnati Ryan. Finley good luck. Wow Yeah yeah. That's A. That's a smash playwright there. I'LL GO NEW ORLEANS THEY FACE ATLANTA's Atlanta's coming off the bye House Matt Ryan doing when we don't really know but I do know that for the last five times a defense has been played against Atlanta. They've put a top twelve defensive performance like New Orleans as well L.. Because I'm thinking about week eleven week. Eleven nor Orleans has Tampa sure and their mistake prone so you kind of start looking at evens as as if you gonNA have to split the difference prince onto defense. Is You like this week. Look at next week's matchup and maybe get a twofer one hundred percent and and New Orleans not a team that has been widely available through the year but whenever a team is coming off of by. Check your waivers because and this is this is just good advice for everyone every week. You look and you're like okay. My defense is fine my defenses. Okay still still check your defenses on the waiver wire because sometimes you're surprised that the bears have been dropped because of Xyz. There's always surprising. Defense inches out there. New Orleans will be on a lot of people's waivers coming off the bye my team this week you know Stevens versus offense and that's exactly the case here because the Miami me dolphins have yet to not give up a top twelve defense and yes that includes last week with the jets. The Putrid performance still got the job. Done the Indianapolis Colts. I have gotten healthier on defense through the last four games of Ben Top twelve this is I mean. Does your home against Miami. Fire up your colts without any any hesitation all right the segment brought to you by head and shoulders and Walmart head and shoulders offense for great hair defense against flakes visit head and shoulders Walmart sweeps CBS dot com for your chance to win tickets to super bowl. Fifty four Nice. That'd be fun. Yeah I want to go to the Super Bowl now if you win. Do you get to play in the game like just one snap. Are you gonNA cheeto fingers if okay. I know that we would like a dream. Come true but if you could actually take one snap Would you the super. Would you take knowing you are risking in permanent damage to your body. If one of those three hundred pound manages decides. We'll look at this dude. I'M GONNA blow him up. Yeah I would definitely do it you would do you have to be they kick return and you have to take it out of the. Oh I would. I would take it out of the to the one and Neil Neil a whoa of your meal and then I would fly full. You know like the airplane style like I just did it Jamal Williams when he scores ars for the first time after. You're in you now. If you actually caught the ball like you caught an actual one then you know then I would completely allow. Oh Jason to have his airplane situation because I give you a two percent chance that you can catch that ball percent two percent I can get it done. We gotta find it. NFL Punter enter. Go out film film. You know me catching some of these ponds I. It's a kickoff not that you could catch but either way. The realized realized they take like professional football players in practice. And they're like okay if you catch this dude punt practices done. That's true. They do that what they do. That with lineman frank but those guys are perfect professional football players. They've professional football analysts. They've been catching. Footballs their whole life. Just in practice I play catch with my boys always almost every day. Mike does the several that he's got the

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At the Podium #12.5: Coordinators Gonna Coordinate

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At the Podium #12.5: Coordinators Gonna Coordinate

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Welcome into at the podium. This is episode twelve point five brought to you by the fine folks at espionage and bleeding green nation. I in your host, Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed and fell today. We have to press conferences one from offensive coordinator, Mike grow one from defensive coordinator, Jim Schwartz as usual grow had praise for the offensive line. And Josh Adams saying that Adams was able to create yards by himself, which has been a big issue for this backfield. It's been lacking this season. He also talked about sticking with the hot hand, which is something that I've been very adamant about doing you. Don't see many eagles backs go for over twenty carries in a game in in this game. It worked out for them. And they had a good ground game catered to getting atoms and Clement north-south with heavier personnel packages, and it paid big time dividends for his part Jewish warts should be getting some credit for being open to suggestions from his players and being able to adjust which leads only three second half points by the giants. You could argue that that should have been the plan. All along as noted on this series. I've heard Schwartz say that he still has full access to his defensive playbook even win the injury bug. Started to hit that secondary hard. And I found that hard to believe at the time and for this game. At least it turned out that keeping it simple enforcing allied manning to beat you was the best plan of attack. So we'll see how that pans out for the remainder of the season tomorrow morning. We'll have a new kissed end Solex show. Breaking down the coaches film of the eagles win over the giants. Keep an eye out for that keep those five star reviews coming those written reviews, really appreciate them. But for now, let's get to these press conferences. We have lots of. The offense of line did an outstanding job throughout the course of the game. And Josh really kind of found a rhythm. And the next job of you know, reading his keys and even making people miss and get more out of what might have been there yet. You know, I really find. Bigger role. You know, he just been kind of coming on and making really good progress each and every week, and I think are and everybody's trust with with the ways handled everything that he's been asked to do. And we've got a lot of production out of him when he's been in there. Then a good job. Different bill. I guess average. Taller. What does he have to do to beat wise to kind of succeed with that Bill? I think I've been asked this question before I mean, he just he just plays running back. I don't think there's anything that he has to change or do differently than any other running back. Got a lot that. Yeah. I mean, he's got good vision and intimidation and can can kind of feel things I think instinctive runner and was able to bounce bounce out the whole and get out to the edge and create even more. S twenty arts. Well below average for the season was that just the way that defense buying used in. Yeah. I think he had over ten completions pass ten yards. So we are still getting the ball down the field. We missed we missed one early in the game where where we had an opportunity to to maybe have a bigger play. But it wasn't necessarily anything by design. Just was you know, the way that the game went. As receiver was need to do to kind of every down. We got good hands. And. Like, I said, we we keep you in a little bit more each week in and he's been able to handle it. So far is a really good job. Or partridges abounds that last drive? They ran at six. Well, we you know, we've talked about all season long are. Ability balances, important and. The offensive line. Just did a really good job at let a really good game plan that was in place in Josh like we talked about in Corey. And and Wendell the three of those guys combine they all did really good job in the opportunity in the ball in their hand. We're about to possess the ball and keep their offense feel. Or later in the game much with that setup zone runs. Earlier much work on sequencing two sets up the like that up. Throughout the course of its we try to package plays and put them together. And. Part of a package of plays in and cordage arby's. He set up in the right spot in the time. You know, the screen everything worked really well. We're able to get out there and distort the coverage. If you will. And both the guys got out there. Both the offense of lime were able to get out there and get the play started. Well, we spent a lot of positive I think at the beginning of the game. Couple of penalties kept us from getting the production that we want. But you know, there's still things that we want to get better at. But we did see we did, see some positives. The beginning a game that God is allowed to guys Zach around. Strikes. How was that manifested itself season where his own pace says? Yes acts having announced sanding season not only as receiver. But and everything that we're asking them to do and being a complete player at the tight end position. And Dallas is another one of these young players continues to progress is doing a really good job. You did a good job blocking? Yeah. It's good to have Richard back. Miss quite a bit of time. It was really on the com-. They're in training camp when he got injured at New England. And so it's just good to have him back. He's a solid player dependable he's got good hands. And so he, you know, he's another good addition to the tide group serve. Really streamlined the running back rotation. Twenty two carries Josh five. What was the thinking day you wanted to get one guy in its roof? Just kind of found a group and stay with the hot hand, you know, he was he was doing a really nice job. So we stayed with it. What does he do? Well, we you know, there's certain things that we're we're looking for certain front or coverage and get ourselves into the right play. And he takes a lot of pride in that. And make sure that we're trying to avoid bad plays and get yourself in the best position have good play. Their front seven is is outstanding as good as good a front front three or four the D line that they have is excellent. Their strong point of tax. They got extra excellent lateral quickness. Then get on edge and pushed a pocket in the middle. Both those guys on the perimeter Carrigan Smith, they can collapse the pocket outside, and they you know, they have an elaborate blitz package and they've been in his defense for number years. Now these guys play well together. Here. Well, we've always aren't a lot of confidence in our offensive line. And it's nice to see them, you know, in some instances starting to feel healthier certainly at this point the season. That's a positive in. We'll continue to to ride that way. Is the games defensive lines plan bigger problem this year than the alleged? Alleged. I don't know that it's been a problem. We've been as as diligent as ever in terms of preparation in. You know, these guys do they do a good job with their with their blitz pack show. It's it's another point of emphasis here this week. I. Replacing somebody. What's it been like for you to step in a role, especially when things aren't going away? What's it like to step into the role? Yeah. Well, the most important thing is you know, what we're trying to trying to do together. And. And and that's win games. And so that's what we're focused on here and team to great job last week coming out to play and I'm played played well and create another opportunity for our selves this week against a division on Monday night. So we're excited about that. Or one giants at whole time out. What's your involvement? There was the discussion on the sideline before such. Well, you know, during the course again there's up for collaboration. And and so, you know, there there's probably a brief conversation that I think everybody felt strongly about the call coach made in and we're excited about it. For that situation. Is there a place that we may choose from this? Or is it just like that situation up any kind of ace it on throughout the course of the game. It's probably both. I mean, we certainly plan for the situations. We have plays designated for those situations. But over the course of the game. You may see something you may alter that decision based on on what you're saying what you're seeing is working really, well, and you go with that. So there's you know, gut feel and instincts involved. But also a lot of planning before the before the moment. Of. Would it have been the same play? Well, I mean coat coaches finger was on the sheet. But that was the first call that he made. No, I don't think so. Senators have big. Yeah. They've got really good players at all levels. They really do think. Mason is Secondly tag on the NFL, and you mentioned swear injure who's running all over the field and very disruptive player down in the box and his making plays on the ball. Of course, Haukeland decks known him for a long time going back to Alabama. So he's a solid addition their secondary. And and you know, they got corners. So they're they're they're formidable defense, and and you know, work side about the challenge. We know they are division opponent. And our guys will be ready. I think the last couple of weeks Nelson outside at Jordan Mathews targets down g go into game consciously. Let's evolve geysers more just out of organic lead things. Go see out in the passing game. You try your we're absolutely. We know we got guys that we wanna get involved in the game and the more they're involved in the better chances to win. So you plan for those things but in the passing game coverage dictates sometimes rush dictates where the ball goes. And even though you know, you have certain plays at our up for primary guy and ends up down the line and just things that are beyond your control. And it's it's different than in the running game where you can say, okay. You know, we're gonna hand the ball to the get this guy. And he's going to get a certain number carries. You you know, you can plan as much as you want. But sometimes it doesn't always go. According to plan, we've got some good players on the offense that are out there at any given time in that huddle. And we're trying to get them all involved. There's only one ball and. So we are trying to be balanced in our tax. Just for kids. No, I haven't seen any major judgment to. I think that depending on replying and the way that they like the Bligh and. I haven't seen anything differently than than than what we saw last year. Down there. Usually catches what makes himself is that one. Yeah. I mean emigre play for the other day was able to step back and fun cut the defender off. And then now break a couple tackles again the end zones really really good play by him. And obviously a lot of trust in him car scale, Charleston is ability. He's got strong hands. So we all know that. And he's having an outstanding year. So he's just another one guys that know we're always trying to involve the wave of the align a little bit now that they're getting healthier. And you look back at that. That was part of the reason why ins haven't been kind of working the right way. I mean, I would make an excuse for anything. I mean, we're we're going to go out there and play with the guys are in the huddle. And we got there and perform the job question in New Orleans of comes back as well drive winning points. Do quarterback is third year. Well, I'm sure I'm sure it gives them a lot of confidence. You know to be able to bring the team back like like you did the day in really hasn't is an entire offense gives everybody a lot of confidence to finish the game. And and beat the giants and division win at home and create another opportunity for selves this week. Get in the red zone yet. So destined type of defied space. He's big guy. And he's he's got excellent play strengthen and and really good catch radius in strong hands catch away from his body, even in those tight spaces like you talk about he's able to create a little bit more space from self by using his by and his life. And then he's got absolutely fantastic hand. So Carson's got a lot of confidence in that. And puts it in the right spot for and beyond make play. Just one bring him up here can take. All these. I think I changed really started probably middle the second quarter more than more than in the second half. I just played more consistent. We tackled a little bit better. We tackle poorly early in that game had a lot of missile early in that game settled down in the second half. You know, made a couple of plays put him in third down and long situations, which are always good for for from a defensive point of view. I don't know if I've ever had a game like that. I think it's stroke pointed out that was most yards that ever given up in the first half of the game. But I'd like for me as most yards of ever given up in the first half of the game. And it's probably the least yards of ever given up in second half the game really hard to put a finger on. But I tell you what is the way that game. When I was really proud of the way our guys Hong in. We've all seen games like that start that way to keep rolling up on. You guys were determined not to let that happen again this week, and I'm proud of him for that. What what did you do? Yeah. You know, the biggest thing we were just having. We have so many new guys on the field. And we were having some issues with communication and execution. And we just simplified some things they were trying to us. Not hurry up tempo. Like, you would think like no huddle. But they were trying to get out of the huddle on snap the ball quick. And things like that. And like I said we had some new guys, and we had a lot of different layers to a lot of our calls, but we sort of eliminated those and. You know, worked out pretty well. Forced. Teams are doing that. Where he's added huddle huddled. It is that. Yeah. To four that's trying to cross the away. Yeah. We've seen it. We've seen from a lot of different a lot of different ways to tempo. I'm you guys know my baseball analogies. You know, there's sometimes the tempo like the what used to be known as tempo just fastball. Just on the ball gona smashes your can't every single snap little bit like pitcher Dutch to one hundred miles an hour every single time after a while it used to to hit. But after a while you get used to it, and you can take your swings. It's it's probably the hardest. When teams are thrown different change of pace. So to speak sometimes person out of a huddle going fast, sometimes going slow, sometimes double Kate and sometimes going fast. I think it said that's legit to say that it's that something is popping up across the across the lake. Last year. All about assessing. He had that again gets giants. Get into the game. I don't think he no he's he's in into the game, regardless away place. He did move around. But then we had so many we had injuries in the game that took us out of our dime package. Most of the second-half also so he played played some different positions early. But then late he played a significant significant amount of snaps at safety position or I actually played at the mic way out and the nickel slot because it took us that he had to move down because it took us out of our dime. He's a good all around player. I don't know that we could won that game. Without having a guy like Malcolm Jenkins number one that has flexibility to move to different positions. But number two the athlete's ability to do it easier said than done it's not just knowing what to do. But you know, who we were we were corner challenged. I mean, that's pretty well documented and we had an injury in the game. And he had to go in and get us through that not only got up, but we played at a high level with him in there. So they say it was certainly a key part of of that turn around from the beginning of the game today on that game. Back. He loved what do you think? He brought the brought us some energy. Day only played twenty snaps or so dim one attacks too much out there, but it was good having that rotation back. I think we re more productive with somebody other guys in their holiday. I thought I thought showed up a little bit better Fletch Fletch played in outstanding game. It didn't show up. Maybe on the stash she the way that other people do, but you know. Probably the two biggest keys in that game. We're Fletch, Malcolm when you when you're faced with the adversity race with you always want to rely on your veteran, you know, marquee players. Those two guys came through force. Keep spun I didn't I didn't see those. But I like the way responded this week. I'm in particularly again that game did not start away. Anybody wanted to start and without good leadership. You don't get out of that. And I'm sure that had something to do our leadership at something to do with being able to get out of that bad start. Guys, those young quarters, especially who hasn't played much until Sunday, we need tackle better. I mean, that's that's why I've always talks about corners. And you see the big plays down the field. And you see coverage in shows up probably more on fans and media radar than anything else. But job number one defensively is being attack. When I thought particularly early in that game. We we didn't do very good job of tackling with our corners for us to be consistent. We're gonna have to have to get guys on the ground. We need better job debt. Yeah. We were. We were challenged sorted whole game. I mean, we just knew how it was going to take us out of some packages. And how was going to ask to move to the neck? Oh, we talked about all that before the game. So when that happens, it's more just ok does what we talked about. We're gonna have to go here here here. It takes us out of this package puts us in this and nothing nothing. Really? But we're we're every everybody has injuries. We just have to you have to have a plan for when they happen. Sometimes I plan is challenging plans on times. It's a little bit easier. Mom, you know, Malcolm was able to to help us through that. Because of his versatility. Up the slack giants, which expects lead. Well, we blitzed exactly one time while we had two, but one was really poor execution miscommunicated and everything else lead to a long touchdown run. But other than that game we played we we blitzed brought five guys one time in that game play true, man. The man one time in that game and his different every single week. But we knew what we had. We knew what our challenges were. And if you're protecting your secondary like that if you're trying to put fires out there than it. The though own is goes to another group, and it went to our D line. And they were up for the challenge. You know, a couple of sacks that book is in put the giants in long yard situations. You know, it helped our coverage out on the day. Did a good job. Stop the Ron. I can't I can't say enough about how Fletch flip Fletch was was not only playing at high level, but he was playing with with the kind of toughness leadership that you expect from a guy like that. And that had a lot to do with our ability to to come out on the winning side of that. Cigna. What did you see that was fitted overall is? Yeah, you know, he went out in the first half was a with an injury. And we didn't know we were going to get him back. We are prepared to play the game without him. And then he tried to back out there. His his sack you block defensive end tight end. That's played. You gotta expect. You know, you gotta expect are your guy to make the play and Mike did got the sack backed up got a big stop early in the third quarter. He's another guy played with a lot of energy. And when the chips were down he really got going for. So I mean, it was tough for him to come back in that game. He had to really tough it out. But that was sort of would about that everybody was in, and, you know, his his energy and his ability to go in there make a place that allowed to do that tackle for a loss a big sack tackle for loss game from defensive tackle position. So certainly big part of our ability to to win that game. What's there? He's still strong as conveys got great vision. You know, he's one of those guys that even if even if you get a first hat on him he still has enough to to churn positive yards become a really important part of Washington's offense. And I just wanted guys just sort of zone block it he can get one edge power through power through guys some guys get older they lose little speed. I don't know if he has. But hasn't lost any power that he's had in the past? And he certainly hasn't lost his vision. Those are the things that carry him. On his responsibilities aided last year because you had Nigel was challenged. Also, you know, he hurt himself on the first series at a game. And was was hindered them the rest of the time. And he had he had to tough. I game out to would have been an easy one for him to take a step back and say, you know, hey, can't go, but. You know, he had a lot to do and play in different positions and things like that. I think those guys those guys played a lot in our opener played different varying amounts of of rap spoke. We need them with Jordan down. And you know, until we get your back goes guys are going to have to play for something. They can both them. They can both played better force. Bag challenge, obviously. But at least it had chanted devante offseason try to bomb. Just got here had played inside than do outside. Having said he he came up with the plays when he needed, you know, he's got some experience. He's played some nickel on the past. He played pretty good. Chicago defense last year. He played nickel pretty much the whole pretty much the whole season. So he does have a little bit experience that mitigates not being with us in training camp. Maybe as much able to he's been with a couple of different teams. I think it's been with three different teams. So concepts aren't new home. It's just terminology. But the demeanor you want for corner toughness, and and just you know, determination scrapping being able to put a band play behind him. He exhibited all those those things may not think it's fairly safe to say that everybody stadium knew that they were going to back on third down seven and he was offered a challenge. Yeah. I mean, I never afri- last week. It was a time. I think two thousand four two thousand five. Toward the end the season. I think we had two guys that began the season at the spot that they replying. You know, it just happens usually it's a little bit later in the season two. Good news is that there's a decent amount of guys that we're going to get back on the when we're going to get it back, but we're going to get back. We have some season enders. Derek Barnett, Roddy McLeod Darby? But then we have some other ones that will get them back. So there is that. Silver lining. But that you know, there is there's a little bit of there's some light at the end of the tunnel. There's challenges every week every team has challenged in some way, those happen to be ours and figure out a way to to manage it. A lot of times that goes to your veteran players. Your your leaders your marquee guys really step up and play while I think we saw that from our defensive line. We saw from guys like Malcolm Jenkins that was able to help us get that whim. Offenses a trying to attack you guys little edges. Quarterbacks tackle no different than any other time in three years that have been here. But I think our corners were probably little bit more consistent in tackling last year the year before that something that that's something. That is a big issue for us that we need to do better at to limit some of those edge on something we've seen a lot of times this year. But as far as tacking it, I don't know. It's a changes any much you really can't do a whole lot about not locking a guy. You know, there's there's some scheme stuff. But if they're going to choose to say, okay, it's running back against corner. Your coordinates be able to step up to that challenge. We certainly need to sign thing. Nassim stuff. He's a veteran player. He's got good mobility. He knows their offense. Some they're not gonna change anything. They have NEC also has a little bit of ability to run some zone. Read stuff and stuff like that. They haven't shied away from running any of them. Hey, everybody how you doing? Well, that's good. My name is Bill Matt's. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 152: McCaffrey The Stud (11-26-2018)

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 152: McCaffrey The Stud (11-26-2018)

"Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice has decided who to draft on first round cowing Gaga, and how to learn of your team got you covered dishes. China's steel leaks. He on Lee ID DP Ely. Even daily fed to see football league shawna's as we break down all the question of fantasy football. It's the Golden State media concepts fantasy football podcasts. What to the GSM see fantasy football podcast. I'm your host, Mark Souza. And with me as always the archrival Jeff now enough, Jeff how's it going, man? I'm your archrival. I'm doing fantastic as long as you're doing terrible. Law just by default your Meyer, tribal, you know, so also your friend. Yeah. I mean, you got to fulfill a lot of different duties, right? Being the co host here with me. First off before we jump into it. If you haven't checked out, the GMC podcast work. Please do so me, and Jeff we would love for you to not only do we breakdown fantasy football. We do football. We do a sports show every day. We do a soccer show a baseball show basketball. My missing anything. I think I covered at all. Yes. Football fans. Football soccer. Baseball basketball. Does what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So create. Okay. We don't do cricket. We don't do curling. But maybe one day we will with curling with more and more curlers drinking and having fun while playing or hanging just kicked out of those sports. Maybe it's a sport we'd need to dive into what do you think? If there's a drinking game of curling, then I might all. All right. So without further ado, we need to jump into this weekend fantasy football Jeff before we jump into the actual breakdowns of the positions. Who did? Well, who didn't and who we should be looking for to do you play this weekend? How did you do if you did play? I didn't win any money. If that's what you're asking. Okay. So daily what about your season along? How'd you do season-long? All right. I'm are you gonna lose? You're gonna lose. Basically it comes down to if the Texas defense plays really well. Okay. So wait, what do you need tonight? I need a Texas defense score more than like, I think it's fifteen. That's it. Well, I mean, you can happen. You got you got two guys JJ watt clown. That's why judge mental about it. Yeah. You need a bunch of bunch of set. I think the exact point is like sixteen point three or something like that. That will be very tough to do. But I am rooting for you. So I appreciate thank you. Why don't we talk about the studs? And I think the running backs kinda stole the show yesterday. But before we jump into running backs us two quarterbacks who was a stud quarterback for you yesterday. Maybe a guy who scored the most points, or maybe just the guy that you had faith in that came through. What would you see, you know, who really I had faith what they came in is. I know he had three two picks. But injury luck, Andrew look. He's been really consistent. Thirty of thirty seven is what really gets me and three hundred forty three yards. Three touchdowns minus owes two picks. And he has a near perfect game. He still had twenty four point six fantasy points in in one of the league's. I'm not sure would venture to say that he's the best quarterback fancy football say that because consistency since week four he has had at least twenty seven fantasy points. That's one two three four five six seven eight games in a row. Jeff that is incredible. He's had at least for three touchdowns in every game. Since that time at least three. You gotta handed to them. I agree with you. What a stood for for not just this week. But in the season, what a stud, I mean, if you don't have breeze or homes or off. It's him, right. Yeah. Okay. How about Baker Mayfield is my stud. He actually led all fantasy quarterbacks yesterday at the position four touchdowns. He also had two hundred fifty yards passing thirty three point eight fancy points in. In standard scoring. So what do you think about that thirty three points at us? Now, two games in a row rese had at least twenty eight points. I'm impressed. I mean, maybe the the he's rubbing off the Hugh Jackson stink. And that's what's benefiting him. And maybe he Jackson's putting that on Dalton because Dalton was poorer Dalton his actually we're naked did not have a broken somebody. Come on. Feel with an injury. Yeah. He he missed the rest of the game being replaced. They were getting blown out. So it didn't make sense back in any other studs from this that you'd like to talk about. There's a couple notable performances for quarterbacks like Josh L on the twenty eighth fantasy points. Yeah. I mean, we're is that coming from. Well, you know, all needed was Jalen. Jalen Ramsey motivation. Some bulletin board material. Yeah. He did it on the ground. He had ninety nine yards rushing touchdown. Yeah. Fifteen points forty five yard run. Yeah. That's fifteen fantasy points just on the ground loan. So. Big day for him. I think it's all quarterbacks. I really did doesn't set a good game to thirty three points. Actually, we're missing one person. Philip rivers. Yeah. Near perfect game. Two twenty two twenty nine to fifty nine yards. Three touchdowns. He's been balling this year too. So definitely a good notable. They're also genus had a great game over three Joe yards zero touchdowns Pierre everything came in and played the fourth quarter after that blowout point seven fantasy points for throwing zero yards. I don't know how it got point seven. So he I'm sorry. He rushed for seven yards. Let's move on running backs. Let you go to did it who have who had the best weekend. Is this an obvious one? Yeah. Christian mccaffrey. Yeah. He was the fancies star performer of the weekend. I'll read you his his stats. Go ahead. Seventeen rushing attempts one hundred twenty five yards rushing alone. One touchdown receiving eleven targets eleven receptions, one hundred twelve yards and a touchdown. And he gets Tampa Bay next week. So he can I mean what's one twenty five plus one twelve the money that must be a million to thirty seven. Sorry. I was joking meaning a million. Okay. You're at those quiz. I wasn't actually serious Cima, Kathy. You know that he has now at least thirty points in three of his last four games fantasy points. You mean? Yeah. Fancy ads. We don't care about real life points. We're talking fantasy. So it's crazy. That's what. All right. I'll go next. How about saquon? He had another huge game thirty three. He had that big fifty one touchdown touchdown run in any blue by everyone on the defense makes you wonder too. We talked about this in our football podcast. The dude has thirteen carries one hundred yards. They're winning the whole game. How does he not have twenty carries in this game? He twenty at travesty against the people from Penn State seven yards almost eight years per carry. If you if you would have got another seven curious that's probably another fifty years and a touchdown. I mean that and that would actually had a big game them kaffa. If you if you figure that he touches the ball that many more times, but well thirty three fancy points again another game over thirty. It's crazy. It's crazy. He's he's doing it this. I don't think you Kansas stood but he played relatively well. Gus Edwards hundred eighteen yards. Yeah. He's a notable. We talked about him in the waiver wire pickups last week. Like, you gotta take a chance on them like. He's obviously the guy to own in the Baltimore backfield. He's obviously the guy in his. I mean, he didn't have a touchdown. But one hundred eighteen yards is still very good of all you. If he's getting fifteen twenty carries a game in that offense in a running offense found again more touchdowns. It'll come it'll come I agree. He didn't have the biggest numbers. But yes, you you figure that in the coming weeks. He should have some big games. What about Nick job? He had another big game. Eighty four yards is pretty good. No doubt about it. Yeah. He's been getting twenty carries at least in every game in the last three. The offense is getting better too. So he's getting more goal-line opportunities in terms of their moving the ball down the field. More also at three catches for forty four yards and a touchdown. So he's getting more involved in the passing him. That's two games in a row where he's at a reception for a touchdown, which is pleasant surprise. Because we knew that he started off is really just being the running running back where they used Duke Johnson as the passing running back, but nice to see him get some opportunities in that regard. Yeah. She'll go to shivers. Yeah. Let's do who do you think? This is an obvious one juju Smith Schuster. He had a big day two hundred and eighty nine receiving yards one of those ninety seven yard touchdown. Unreal. There. What's the stop real quick? When you have a guy in fantasy that all of a sudden gets like sixteen fantasy points off of play like your thing. Refreshed and it was like oh. Winning by million you get ninety seven yards. If you're gonna peop- yearly you get the kitsch. And then you get the six for the TD. That's always fun. So tell me about that play in K saying, but okay. So it was well this burger was basically at the obviously three yard line. He was tackled as he threw the ball to. So it was almost like threw it up in the air and Jews doing a post route and beat his man berry convincingly to had catches the ball. And then basically out runs the safety because safety was running in a his body was going one way running the other way in fishes turned directions. And the dude basically kind of like a three sixty time motion. And as he's running down the opposite. Silane key started at running to the end zone. Stiff arms the safety so hard that he runs into the corner that was chasing juju this entire time. And makes him fall over any scores. The touchdown. Unbelievable. It was a great play. It was an unbelievable longest play the year. I think already yet things so ninety seven set the benchmark so far we're just along. All right. So I'll go go Adam theme and back into plus twenty territory and fantasy points. Eight catches one hundred twenty five yards. Touchdown. He gets back on track. Like like, we mentioned he had eight games in a row to start the season with at least one hundred yards. His last two games. He had been under. He had twenty to sixty six. We'll yesterday he gets one twenty five and Minnesota Vikings offense looks back on track. Adam feeling had himself a nice little game. Do you have another stood for wide receiver? They're willing to Lana stood wide receivers. This week were running back. On the tight end. Sure, let's do tied in Eric Brown. Eric Hebron what he do. Disappointed me last week and made me loose thirty five push-ups. But this week he said it. Hey, Jeff's, not starting me. Now picking me all scored two touchdowns on forty five yards TV on five catches. So basically fifty percent of his catches were touchdowns. Yeah. He has that ability. They've been using him a lot inside that red zone. Even handed him the ball you times. He scored touchdowns here. Yeah. That's a good one. That's a breakout performance. How about David joke? I really liked him. Well, we did our podcast week about using him as a streamer. And for me. He's a guy that I used us in daily fantasy. And I also use season-long most of my leagues Travis Kelsey, but Kelsey was on a bye. So I picked him up in a couple of these leagues. And he did not as point five catches sixty three yards a touchdown. And he's in this offense as Cleveland offense. That is now sneaky good and they use the joke. They like to use them near the goal line. Did you see touch them, by the way? Speaking of the craziest touchdown of the day. I think David joke is was the craziest one he got. He caught up the two he got pushed backwards. Yeah. And then he got pushed all the way back where he tried to jump into the guy's arms. Lovey. Stayed on his feet. And then he somehow got in obviously weirdest play I've ever seen bias because I had a lot invested in him yesterday. But I was I was jumping around and he scrubs like, oh my God. He did not do that. It was pretty weird. Look it wasn't. Yeah. It was unusual. It was fun. It was definitely fun. Maybe the funnest touchdown other than the one of of the day yesterday. It was almost like he was jumping into his arms like, Donna. It was like a dumb jump to like you're not scoring from right there. But then it all worked out, you know, like, why would you even jump? Okay. And he's in the end zone. Yes. So any other tight ends? You wanna talk about gun hausky and a touchdown. Yeah. It was nice to see him get back on the board. It's been awhile since we've had only talked about him. I mean, I touched Johnson's week one something like that. Thanks a long. That is a long streak. He's still he's still has not had a game since week one week when he had one hundred twenty yards and a touchdown. That was by far is best game. He hasn't even come close to that. Which is crazy. You know, he was the number one tied in most people picked maybe two or three but very disappointing year. So it was nice see him ERT set another big game for the girls. He's probably the best in the NFL right now hammer, Kelsey, right? Yeah. It's one and two seven for ninety one and a touchdown for earth's. That's another good game. And you know, when you look at his upcoming opponents Redskins Dallas in the Rams. I mean, he might be able to do some damage. They're here as we approach the fantasy football playoffs. Okay. Do you want to move onto defense is sit out to you. Sure. Do you have any particular leaf? I do think it's pretty obvious right away. The ravens defensive touchdown and a special teams touchdowns. So you got two touchdowns from using them yesterday. They only give up seventeen points. They end the day at twenty three fancy points pacing the. The position. So what do you? What about you? There wasn't a lot of defensive efforts. But I had to get the chargers some credit is only allowed ten points and like other solid performance and Boso at an amazing game. So I give them the credit. But we take a break. Yeah. We we should take a break. When we come back. We'll talk about some players that were just underwhelming the duds of week twelve. We'll see who you know. Maybe we thought we're going to do. Well, maybe you thought we're going to do well and talk about those players, and and see if this might be something that lingers around or if it's just a one off. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast, then checkout football podcast? Get the latest football move in off the field the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines they got you covered that's podcast dot com slash full. Dash podcasts college. College game deeds and much much more. It's football talk. The way you wanted this show. Football. Don't forget to like on Facebook and Twitter. Visit yes, podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the sim. See fantasy football podcast again, Mark Sousa and Jeff Mellon off with we talked about the fantasy studs and segment number one, the players who impressed us impressed. You impressed everybody who participates in the solovy lovely game. We call fantasy football. Now, we got to flip the coin. The other side players who just didn't perform to par guys that were disappointed in. Do. You wanna go first Jeff we'll start quarterback. Do you wanna go or do you want me to start all start? Go ahead. A guy who had a great game a couple of weeks ago and Thursday night football. But today or yesterday he had a pretty rough game Nick bowlen's. Okay. Yes. So some people invested in him this week because the matchup looked good. Yes. But he did not do good. He had best what eleven fantasy points. One touchdown two picks two hundred and twenty one yards that recipe for failure. Okay. My turn Carson wins. Fifteen fantasy points last week. He had less than a fantasy point. Two hundred thirty six years passing one touchdown. No he's had it under two touchdown passes in three straight games. Is it time to drop Carson Wentz? Yes. Sixteen total fantasy points in the last two weeks. They play Washington Dallas and the Rams and they're coming three. Do you feel confidence the Redskins this week? Yeah. Give me giving him giving you. Okay. You'd think bounce back officers. Something's up right? Just something is going on. Do you know someone who doesn't have it who Blake Bortles? Right. He had less than two fifteen fantasy points again. One hundred twenty seven yards one touchdown to picks and other hundred twenty seven yards passing. That's it. That's pretty bad. Yeah. Like him, but we kind of expect ever right? Like if you're relying on Blake Bortles and fantasy like good of all duds. You know, who didn't have much of a better day. Although I think this quarterback is really good. And I don't think he played a bad game history. But fantasy wise Aaron Rodgers their teen fantasy points. You would think that the Minnesota Vikings would pose a game where he'd have to throw it a lot like he did in their first meeting this year, but he has no two or less touchdowns in nail six street games. Jeff. He only has two games this year over three touchdowns. He's more of a twenty point quarterback than thirty point quarterback nowadays. And that's really sad. It makes sense. He hasn't been over thirty fantasy point since week six against the forty Niners on that Monday night football game since then it's been really really bad for him in terms of fantasy. It hasn't been terrible. In fact, yesterday was the worst output of his season. But if you have Aaron Rogers sees along fantasy he was probably the first or second quarterback. Taken. And he just has not lived up to the hype. Yeah. True. All season. Do you wanna move to running backs got big one, David Johnson? All right. Let's talk about his seventeen attempts sixty three yards. No touchdowns. Eight fantasy points like how can you? This guy a couple not too long ago was the number one pick for people in panacea football the offense. This not him team. Don't blame him. Okay. The messenger. I don't blame. It all when I watch him play. He still looks the same dynamic player problem is he's trying to break tackles in the backfield. So, but I agree you picked them. And you thought okay, he's going to be great because he was great two years ago. He was her all, of course. But yeah, I mean, I agree. It's disappointing. So all right. So I mean, this might be unpopular, but we have to talk about him. James garner two games in a row now under ten fantasy points. This is a guy that hit thirty at least three times upper twenties at least twice he has been performing very well. But since it became a fact that with Bill would not return for the season. He's put up seven points and now nine points at twenty five yards against Jacksonville. He had six catches for twenty yards in that game. Thirteen carries fifty three years. Denver for. Catches forty two years. He had a big fumble yesterday to or the Bullock flew out of his hands. D? Should we be worried about James Connor? I don't know. Because I don't know if he's in his head on how he back from these disappointing games. He's had if that's his back. Well, then I could see him as a hijab pick next year. But they'll how ill matters how finishes what about for fantasy playoffs this year. He has the chargers in week thirteen. He has the raiders fourteen patriots fifteen saints in weeks sixteen majority of those already going to clinch a playoff spot by that point. So they might ninety put in the starters. So he might take into that. Maybe could be maybe the saints week sixteen. Yeah, it's possible. Yeah. I guess it's something to monitor though what he looked. He was like a slam dunk in your lineup every week though. Now, you're kind of thinking maybe not right like depending on. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have another running back dead? Mac. How did he perform in less than hundred yards rushing really speaks for itself? And how good? Andrew luck did really shows. He wasn't very much needed. He had fifteen cents for only eighty five yards and he had twenty five yard run play. So just that average is pretty lenient all things considered. So he didn't play his the level of people have seen him play so disappointing. Yeah. Marlin MAC, although I think is looks pretty good, right? Like as long as healthy. He's been a nicer prizes here this week. But nice apprised real absolutely hold onto him. Definitely James white. He's a dead. He is one of fantasy football's top tell you. Michelle far Stutz. No, we didn't. He was a stud. Yeah. Yeah. But not James white who maybe suffered because Sony. Michelle was used so much James way. Only had one catch yesterday. Jeff, and he is a receiving back. Like, yes, he's running back. He had nine carries for seventy three earth, which is actually quite nice. But only one kick he's been getting he's making his money in fantasy football in the passing game. So under ten yards the second consecutive week. He's been under ten points me. And we want him. We get Crowell. Only six times for thirty yards. Very disappointing numbers. He basically said what three games this year and the rest of been very poor. Yes. Exactly Altima, boomer bust. Yeah. Okay. So do you want to move to? Sure. Okay. Good. Okay. You're going to throw that on me. Here. It is thrown on you. I'm not I'm kidding. You know, so on that actually had a really poor game. Thanks to a really good game was in Tokyo Brown. What did he do nine receptions sixty seven yards? And that's it which is like good. He also an Oprah one for passing which is good. But like for him. It's bad news the number one receiver. Yeah. Like that's kind of funny to say like owes his pretty good NFL game is not good for his standards because he's such a dynamic football player. Right. Yeah. Exactly. I got two in a row. The eagles ERT set a big game the Jeffrey and gold and take combine to have ten fantasy points. Jeffrey was three for thirty nine Tate was four for thirty. You know, when we saw this trade good down. We thought men golden Tate with Carson Wentz. It's going to open up Jeffrey it's going to open up Erz Tate soon. Get the ball is going to do good. But man, it really has not come to fruition yet. Right. Correct. Interesting. What about Jarvis Landry four fantasy point? Three for thirty yesterday. I think he's still gonna be a trustworthy. Go offense. It's weird though because their offense because the eagles struggled on offense. The Browns did not struggle in offense. Get Landry their best receiver was fourth on the team in receiving so weird weird day at least for him any other. Does he want to discuss for receiver? Brown was my main one. Yeah. Doug, Baldwin park game six points. We knew that he was a little bit banged up going in. Did you talk about a on Fridays? Talk about Michael Thomas and his pretty big monsters. Sorry. I'm watching him at a dead both of them. Yeah. Okay. Let's move onto ends. Okay. George kindle. How did he do? Titans and the NFL and he'll only had six or for forty eight yards. No touchdowns touchdowns. Right. It's like the thing. What about Greg Olsen two for eleven? He had two for nine last week at a year. Let's get things straight. Yeah. You know, he had scored touchdowns and four of his last five games entering yesterday. But he's had two catches in his last two games. He does get Tampa Bay this week. So there's a good chance that he can kind of add to that. And get right the ship a little bit because that is a plus plus matchup right there. Very disappointing. And the other wanna talk about. Not really what Bill. Vance McDonald four fantasy points. I know he's kind of a boomer bus. But lately, he's been booming more than he's been busting. We do remember him for that stiff arm earlier in the year. Gusting. The play is gonna stay with them for a long time. Like, oh, yeah. Vance McDonald the guy that just ruined career any baptize defensive back in the open field. Like you said down a little boy exactly three for twenty seven. We just haven't seen a big play from him in a while. He has scored touchdowns to us three games. But we're waiting for another big one. Another wong. Touchdown pass. Steers? Offense was weird yesterday. They put up of a lot of yards, but turn the ball overs looked all out of sorts, right? So okay. Let's move on defenses that were performers yesterday. Do you have one Jaguars two points to fantasy points? I agree. They had talking's. They had a very good match of you get to put Josh Allen on the bills. And you have that could if it was Nathan Peterman whole different story. You know, the bills at a pretty decent game. The jaguars. Are you have you been disappointed in their defense this year because they really have only had three games where they've been. Okay. Saxon Bill has been underutilized. I think is a one year thing and they only play the colts this week. That's another bad match for that defense because the Andrew doesn't turn the ball. And they've been really good at protecting Andrew. So Jacksonville defense don't play in this week straight up. You might not even away even want to keep them on your roster. I mean, they're not a good defense and the others. Yes. So you just said Jacksonville. You know, I was very very disappointed in a year. He talked probably about the Redskins on on. On things skill little bit. The eagles defense, you know. Yes, they've struggled. Yes. They have defensive back concerns. But the New York Giants their mistake prone team, you I manning, we know Jeff and that offensive line. He's able to be sect a lot. Johnson this game. No, no, not at all. They got one interception. But you would expect them to go off the eagles defense has been poor all season. But man, this is one of those games. Okay. He goes has been bad. But this is a game where they're going to actually feast, but they did not. So I was very disappointed in them any others. No. We go to break. Yes. We do when we come back. We'll be what are we talking about fantasy playoffs waiver wire pickups because we know some weeks playoffs started this week some leagues this is a must win last regular season game to get in the playoffs. So these are important important ads. We'll get right on them. When we return to you. Check out the show. It's built on the. Extreme cage fighting they got the flights covered checkout GMC podcast. Get the latest news on Pastore coming fights. Join us as we've talked to in some of the biggest things passed. Game. There's just one show to check out. Podcasts dot com slash podcast. Forget. On could follow them on Twitter. Visit GSM see podcasts dot com for more info. Welcome back to the sim. See fantasy football podcast again on the GMC podcast network. And this segment we will talk about waiver wire we'll talk about key pickups. The covered is pretty bare right now as a lot of players a lot of those hidden gyms have been picked through at this point time, especially quarterbacks if you have a if you're in a league that uses the auction for waivers at this point a lot of players don't have any any money to any money to us now that they've mostly blown through especially the teams that have been struggling looking for that lightning in a bottle type player, but we all know as we approach the the biggest week of the regular season fancy football week thirteen that these moves you're not only looking for this week. But you're you're hoping and praying. That you get into the playoffs. If results go your way. So you might be thinking about moves down the road, not just for this week again, obviously if you need a win this week is most pressing maybe you're an owner of a team that has a BI week already in the playoffs or you're looking ahead in a couple of weeks here that this week might not be to important. So we'll go through each position talk about players that you may want to consider adding to your team whether it's for this week or the week. So Jeff, I know that quarterback is pretty bare. Did you want me to start with a quarterback? Sure. All right. This might be surprising to you. But this quarterback is only forty three percent owned in ESPN fantasy leagues Dak Prescott. He's coming up at thirty one point game. He can be a little bit up and down. We saw him with two touchdowns passing one touchdown rushing. He's always a threat to run. He has now scored a rushing touchdown five of his last six football games. His next games. Oregon's the saints. The eagles the colts in the books. The books would be week sixteen that would be fantasy football championship week for most leagues. What do you think about that remaining schedule? And do you think he's a good pickup? I think he's a good pick up. But I feel like quarterbacks already set in stone for a lot of teams and people just picked up back to play them right away from touching like when the playoffs coming up all the by wigs are done now. So, but I would say pickup as and injury happens or something very played safe. And like I mentioned what if you have a better quarterback. But if you get to the championship Jeff you can use deck against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And the Cowboys would probably have to win that game. That might take advantage of the situation. You know, what I mean like that could be a pig big game for him. Okay. I guess it depends on who your quarterback is though. Well, what if you have a guy like Brady, he's not had a lot of good fantasy games as you know, Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rogers says putting up the most points as late. So you might be an option for you. Okay. Do you have a quarterback or shall I go again again? I don't have. Honestly, I don't have like, okay, I have one and he's probably a bunch taken though who Baker Mayfield Mayfield. He's so afraid in siblings. I'm just using that as a big question, right? Because he's probably after this performance this week. He's going to be taking a tiny already gone by the time. His. Matchup against Houston this coming week. It's that Houston would you be concerned? Or would you roll them? Because he has feasted on some pretty poor defenses. Bengals falcons chiefs less three weeks. It's not daunting. Defenses there but Houston presents a different challenger. But he's good as a backup. Just whoever. Like, it all depends on who you're starter. Whoever if you're gonna pick a Mayfield right now, he's your backup. And he's just going to be nice just to get injured or something happened. So you know, he does get the bingles week sixteen. If you get there. He just came off his biggest game, and that was getting singles, so yeah. So it's nice to hold onto your bench until you know, you could have a good game. Okay. Well, what about Lamar Jackson? He's still viable in the of leagues. Yeah. He is. And I think the fact of the matter is is that he did struggle passing. He did throw two picks. But he's running game is still really good. So he's still only fifty percent own. Yeah. I still think he's kind of a rish though. Although these are next three opponents, Jeff Atlanta Kansas City, Tampa Bay could be some points their true. But it should be on a team though. Yeah, he should be gone by then. All right. What about a player that? You may not have seen coming. But you got to play with me here, case keenum. No, okay. No, hold on these next four opponents. Remember this is last week rigor season first round playoffs possible. Semifinals and championship game. You ready for these opponents? Sure Bengals forty Niners in Cleveland Browns, and Oakland Raiders, it does not get more favorable than that. It just doesn't. Okay. I know he doesn't put a ton of points. But man, you got to expect he can get twenty five or so average in the next four games potentially. But I'm not going to say, that's guaranteed. Yeah. Well, we'll see. But you gotta like those that match those matchups there. Okay. Let's move on to running backs. Sure, I have a good running back with Melvin Gordon gone. This guy is definitely going to be a major pickup. That is Justin Jackson, you'd think. He'll get enough carries behind the Necker. I think so. Yes. And I think they're going to be well the thing is I think they're going to for the first game. They're going to split it evenly. Just see who does better almost and go from there equities also more. I think of a passing game threat to I think Jackson has a role for sure as running at the speed for it Ecuador is a little bit shift ear, but he's he's more of a receiver. So I know that played forty two forty four snaps and Jackson play just five, but he's still next line for a work horse touches, and I just think there's I think there's some capability form. Yeah. I agree with that. Both guys will definitely get in increase in the role with Gordon Gordon's going to be out two to three weeks. It looks like minimum in my opinion. He has an MC L spring like those those injuries user for weeks. But even if it's like aggressive. It's two weeks. Conservatively I'd say five weeks. So okay. Let's move on Gusaid words. He's only fifty three percent owned. He's not. He's only fifty percents on. After the workhorse running back he had back tobacco one hundred yard games. And I'm sure he's going to be at least in the ninety percent taken by the end of this. He doesn't offer anything in the past game. But he has forty touches on the ground. The last two games they play against Kansas City, Tampa Bay and their extra games. There's a lot of points to be had here. If he's on your team, he should be on your team if he's available. You should go get him. Do it as quickly as you can. Do you have another running back because I'm one more? Yeah. You said Gus Edwards? I'm gonna say another. I'm going to say Philadelphia running back in Josh Adams. And the thing is he's been playing awfully well his yards per carry or better than most of all the Philadelphia eagle running backs. And so I just think he can be a good. He he he played over sixty percent of the snaps since week seven, and we all know Doug Peterson loves the backfield. He loves run the ball. And well, he loves he loves run the ball impassable with his running backs loves getting ready monks involved in the offense. Right. And so I think Josh Adams can is a guy that can really contribute to your team when it comes to the playoffs. Yeah. And Doug Peterson you like yielded to he did mention. He did mentioned that they wanna give Josh Adams more carries more time. But I mean, I think what he's saying is Adams is a guy who has earned his way into the starting role in a consistent role because he did get the ball out yesterday. But I really liked that pickup. He's still available in about forty percent of leagues he should be on every roster. This is a kind of move that can win you a fantasy football championship. Because guy that in December just kills it for you in kind of comes out to win. Oh, yeah. The situations greet for them. They need a win all their games. They're going to rely on him. He's going to get the goal line carries. Josh having gamer to gets thirty fancy points. I could see happening. Yeah. Cool. So that was my last running back as well. Why don't we move over to wide receivers? There's not a lot here in my opinion. But do you have a word receiver that you're looking at? Why receiver up looking at that interesting one? But yeah, there is one I said him in the past. But I'll say him again. Josh Ronald, okay. Yeah. You're looking at that Rams offense. Yeah. Okay. What do you see from him? Do you? Do you just see his role growing? He had a couple of touchdown recently. But yeah, it can only go. It can only go up from here is what I'm saying. Yeah. He's only thirty four percent owned. Yeah. He he he is so much potential. He does have a lot of potential agree. He's somebody keep your eye out on. I have a player who's owned a little bit more. But still available in in a way too many leagues for my liking DJ more. He's still visible in forty percent of leagues. He is. Actually kinda surprising Cam Newton's favorite target other than Christian McCaffrey funchess. Missed the game yesterday. He was hurt. But even regardless his last two games, he has at least seven receptions at least thirteen point eight fantasy points in half PR scoring. He's a playmaker. He's likes to fund digs in my opinion. Where he's allusive. They can't tackle them with just one guy that run them over the middle. He had a couple of huge catches yesterday. I really like him and guess what? He plays Tampa Bay Cleveland New Orleans in Atlanta and his four four games here. That is a great great matches for him. I mean, he could be a guy who really feasts on these defenses here. The next few weeks as his role continues to get bigger and bigger. And you know, what they do him the ball every game. He's threat to take. It have a hand off to he said at least one carry in every game, but three this year. So he gets you some cheap yards on the ground. Just another way for him to break break a big place. So. Yeah. Do you have another wide receiver? Yeah. Dante pettit? Okay. Yeah. We saw him score yesterday. I think it can only means good things. Like, I know on injury as well as marquees was gone for personal reasons. So only he can he can make some more knowing they're going to try and play all their young players here the game. So he's time. Yeah. Definitely. That's that's a good pickup. He's available in a lot of leagues pretty much any league. He's available in right now kind of a sneaky one not not a lot not a lot of people are looking at him for their option. But I could see that being good. How about a player who's twenty seven percent? But I guarantee you after tonight he will not be that low key Cutie. Okay. Twenty cents love that name. I love that name. Twenty seven percent owned. He has three games of at least five catches his role keeps growing this offense. The only thing that say him back was a hamstring injury. He's passed it. We saw last week. Jeff Maria's Thomas was never ever really used in that offense KiKi is the slot receiver to shell Watson likes to throw to him. They rave about him. The Texans talk about him like he's just as good as the Andre Hopkins in terms of the lettuces them. He's a live up to it. Oh, it is. And he's not as good, of course. But what I'm saying? Is he put his offense? Alexa, throw the football Tennessee, Cleveland, Indianapolis in the jets are next for Ponant you need to get KiKi Cutie on your team. Now, if you can get him before tonight, please do it you won't regret it. I guarantee you he'll have five or six catches at least sixty seventy yards. At least he has a chance of squirrel time that often so. Man. He's a player that you need to be looking out for okay? Any any other receivers you won't go tight ends. All right. Go ahead. Lalla Jehovah retire. Okay. I have heard in from the jets. I know that we've talked about him before. But he's still widely available in most leagues. Only. Ten percent own ESPN. Chris Herndon seven catches fifty seven yards. He's getting six to seven looks game. We all know the jets don't have the best wide receivers. So the titan is important. He scored three touchdowns last six games. He's a player that can come in and sit your bench, and he might be able to be used in a one off game Tennessee buffalo Houston green bears next four Ponant s-, not the easiest schedule. But you never know. He might be worth the dirt through. This actually someone who has been really known has been talked to him a long time. But he's been used in Washington is running when you're going to say that the head that long test you on the other day he has multiple touchdowns in the last couple of games. So why not take advantage of those seem thrown to them? Yeah. Cole McCoy doesn't have the biggest arms. So he's I think he's gonna throw a lot to the middle of the field. Right. Like, Jordan Reed. You kind of see it to the forty Niners. Nick Mullins looking at Pederson the slot. And and kiddle like those quarterbacks backups. There's a reason why their backups. They don't have the the tools as some of the other starters legu-. So when they get a chance to play they're going to go to what's comfortable for them. That's thrown close thrown short over the middle. Right. So we know tight ends could be quarterback security blanket. Right. Yeah. All right. It's like I need my knee and my safety say prediction Lincoln. That's what therefore let's move on the defenses. Do you wanna do that? Sure. All right. You won't be go. Sure. The Denver Broncos defense is available in sixty. That's six zero sure sixty percent of leagues they're available in these are their next four opponents. Jeff not only are they good defense. We'd agree on that. Right. Bradley chubb. Yeah. We got von Miller they can create turnovers their next four Ponant Cincinnati San Francisco Cleveland, Oakland. That's really good. At least three those offenses are terrible at this point the forty Niners the Bengals and the raiders they provide those offenses provide a lot of fantasy points. So there's actually a decent might be underutilized is the Miami defense, and they had a good game against I know they lost their game against Indianapolis. But they still had multiple attorney had three turnovers guy with to intercept shins, and they had to force fumbles against any ambles. What is their schedule like the rest of the way? So the next scheduled. They look like next week is the play they play actually have a buy it looks like the next week. No, they play flow my bed. Do not do not see them. And then they play New England. In England, which is kind of rough. But then they come and play Minnesota who has tendencies to really lakes like chickens. Do you know what I mean? Come on, man. It's a week sixteen that I'm looking I'm looking at week thirteen weeks weeks sixteen Miami plays Jacksonville. Yes. So they play buffalo this week. Let's chance seventeen they also play buffalo. Well, mostly week. Seventeen is not. I've known some leagues I'm one league where week seventeen is still big. I don't like that personally because everyone benched by that point. But what do you do? Yeah. But I mean, you got to look at week thirteen buffalo this week you need a win. You get play. Josh Allen at home. I know that Josh had a decent game against the Jaguars. But do you expect that to happen? No. He's a mistake prone quarterback. There are not too many better options than Miami gets Josh L now week sixteen if this defense you stash him on the bench for the patriots in the Vikings game. You get Blake Bortles Miami. Probably in a must-win game in that in that week. You gotta like your chances. They're right. Absolutely. All right. I got one more for defense's go for this defense is only nine percent owned which means over ninety percent available. The Detroit Lions. And I know you're wondering I am wondering, I know you're wanting Mark Mark. Why would I start the Detroit? Are you insane? Will you're not gonna start him this week because they play the Rams you're definitely not going to however Jeff in week fourteen. That's the first round of the playoffs. They play Josh Rosen and the colonel's then they played Josh Allen the following week. You can have the lions your defense for the quarterfinal and semifinal of your fantasy football playoffs. And yes, they might not be the best defense, but they create turnovers they can get sacks. And they have two very good matchup Zor. Okay. So what do you say we go break? Sure, we're running time, but we can take a break when we come back. We'll talk about some players in particular, if their stocks are going up down what our overall outlooks are of them. Build around women. From the UFC two extreme case fighting. We got the fights covered. The Golden State media concepts women's made podcast the latest news of upcoming discussions previous matches as we talked to about the biggest names women's mixed. Martial arts. Futures. It's the women's game. You know to listen to Golden State media concepts women's podcast. Welcome back to the. Fantasy football podcast. We're in the last segment here, we talked about some playoffs waiver wire pickups that you need to look at as teams bolster for your run. I mean, this is money time. Right. You we all play in these leagues. It's time to put up or shut up, and you may have been making moves all season that have helped you you've made have made some moves have backfired. But ultimately, you are where you are. Right now, you need to set up your teams in the best position possible to win also players that we looked at these players can be used for daily fantasy purposes, of course, as we always look at match ups and things like that. Now, we gotta talk about some other things and the NFL basically stock if these players stocks have dropped have risen, I gotta tell you Jeff do the Jaguars offense. Does anyone in their offense stock go up or down with? The firing of offense coordinator, Nathaniel Hackett. I mean, he kind of scapegoat though, isn't he so I guess it all depends on how the next one utilizes. Blake bortles. Yeah. Do you think that? That I mean other than Leonard for net that that these players are worth those for the rest of the season. Bortles like, I don't know yelled in the receivers, you know, d- Westbrook purrs like this. I kind of see it. But. Losing losing offense. Like twitching offense coordinator every time like something's wrong with the offense doesn't help. Like there's twenty times. Oh, that's the guys the offense Clinton. But in reality. It's towns fault. And so it's just like maybe this is one of those times where it's only gonna hurt them rather than help them. What do you think about Doug Baldwin? He's been hurt out some really poor games. A couple of decent games. Do you think that this is a part of that we can rely on here in the weeks to come does the forty Niners twice here in the next five weeks, there porous defence you're not gonna like what I'm about to say. Doug Baldwin is a shadow of his former self. Yeah. Could be I mean. That's how I feel. He's not the same guy. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think his knee injuries. Just. Maybe worse than he's letting on. Yeah. He seems like he's stuck like in a whole he can't get out. And you know, the offense has been doing. Well, Tara walk it. He's had a really good season. He's at a really productive season. But you never know. With him. I don't know if it's gonna be a thing where you know, maybe a week or two he has a big game. And then things start moving forward. We know that he said that he does not experiencing pain, but something's sometimes he some teams sound guys lie about their condition. Let's get real. So that's how I see is like you're lying to make. Sure, your I'm fine. I'm fine. But around that, you're not fine. What's wrong? Are you? Okay. Like, you sound sad. Like, no, I'm fine. But reality. Real talk. But that's exactly how this is. Yeah. No. I understand what you're saying. Like, it's obviously, it's football too. Right. Like, we're not gonna players back. My knees really hurting me, and I can't cut like no one's saying that in the media, right? Not okay. Now, do you think that Josh Adams? We just talked about him in the last segment. He's on most teams. No, not very many teams. Not very many leagues have him available. Do you think that we can expect running back to production from him or better? I think he'd be the eagles need him to do that. If they're gonna make the playoffs. So it's put up or shut up time. Yeah. Absolutely. And then another go, I guess words. Are we seeing him be consistent has role or do you think that we might? One hundred plus yard games, really speaks to me. And he's that's a calculated risk in my opinion to start him to pick them up. That's only only leads to like, oh, he's consistent. So why not take that trans? I mean. They need they need. Somebody. Jay was there guy. And Josh Adams is more J giant than the other running backs. Are that are currently there? So I think it makes a lot of sense. But other than that, I think we're done for today. Please join us on Friday Friday, we talked about stardom and sit here the next several days, he'll be solidifying your team going forward. But as we head into the crucial weekend. We'll tell you which players you need to start which you need to sit based on the match ups based on overall performances and our Alex and our opinions, but this is a big big week fantasy football. I know for myself for Jeff and for all of you most people out there fantasy football is a lot of parody. It's designed to set up for it to come down to the last week of the regular season. 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At the Podium #3: Pederson & Wentz Post Week 3 Pressers

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22:40 min | 3 years ago

At the Podium #3: Pederson & Wentz Post Week 3 Pressers

"The. Passing donald. Our thoughts and prayers his family during this time. So keep keep the family in your prayers. Everything clear for contact, Joe. Good. Well, I say good. We're still honestly evaluating him today probably tomorrow and I'll probably have better update for you on Wednesday, quite honestly. So he still being evaluated. Yeah, yeah. Players. Late start to their season including Sean yesterday. When Carson coming back Jason Peters, having much of a preseason, does it feel like you know what you have yet? You know what you're going to have October-November kind of like. I think we have an idea that personnel sometimes sometimes it feels like you don't know the identity, maybe of your offense with with those guys. You know you, you kinda, you kinda have hopes and you kind of say, okay, this is what we think we have and an individually. We kinda know these guys, but collectively as a unit, I think you're still working through the month of September, trying to kind of figure out your identity a little bit offensively. Unless you go to the Super Bowl, you like that extra month for guys get back when the Sean sorts game one. If you guys are done in December, is it an unusual feel you've been around? It's a little unusual. But, but it's okay because because you know defense, I look at it to defense and special teams kind of carry the load early in the season and offense kind of place catch up to slow bit. And then when the offense catches his stride than than you got a good thing going on, the other thing is it's long season and and you know, we find find ways to win these games. Early makes makes a big difference down the stretch. When you start getting your guys back radio, this morning mentioned that you spoke about the holding the defense holding on the on the line, and then you get that penalty later in the game. How strategic is that and how do you have sometimes hold back and kind of pick your spots? The point things out there. All, you know, it's common practice. You know, I get a chance to meet with officials before the game. I get a chance to meet with the head referee during pre-game the come over and talk and listen to the, it's a tough job. And if they're. Something out there that we see. They wanna know about it, you know? So they can get it right, and it's not strategic. It's not, you know, planned in any way is something that we have kind of we saw throughout the game and and just wanted to bring it to their attention. And obviously it was a, it was a true hold on lane and you know they got it right. And so that it's not a competitive advantage other than we just wanna make sure everything is affiliated correctly. And if you know, I'm sure Frank had had things on their sideline to that he can he can talk to them about and then it's fair game, so to speak. And it's just common practice throughout the league. Talk about the mental reps that they're able to take. When you look at what Carson was able to do this yesterday on Sunday and what he was able to do beforehand relabel to see any movements maybe in his leadership or his decision making on the field from his time off the field? Yeah, I think a lot of his preparation through his rehab and conditioning and just talking with players talking with his guys helped him yesterday and and you know he such a competitor in any studies game, so so, well, that wasn't a perfect game now. I mean, there were some there were some flaws and there's some things that we can coach and he get better at. But I think it. There was really not a big drop. You know what? Maybe people have expected, you know. But at the same time, it's about what we expected, you know, and now we just we go up from from here and it's a, it's. It was a great game for him to play in obviously, but but I think him. His time on the sideline. Big picture definitely helps helps vote. Quarterback, where do you see the most room for improvement in his overall? Well, I think it just continues to, he continues to grow, which is the situational things you know in the game and and you know he such a, he brings such a competitive impact our offense and and toughness in at things you wanna see. I mean, the third-down scramble for the first down obviously are great plays. Third, nine scramble to Nelson are great plays, and those are things that we know he can do. And then at the same time we wanna make sure that that you know one were coaching him properly and he seeing things properly to maintain his third, we talked about situational ball all the time, and it's, you know, sure. Yards. Go line is third downs, red zone. It's all those situations pop up and and he continues to grow there and we just continue to teach and continue to progress in. And and I think too, you know, we're all learning every day. Every week players, coaches, we all continue. To grow. And that's that's resenting about. Now, Sean principally this week, and the reason I asked you guys hadn't listers question withing into the game. So does that mean he's like, you know, pretty close to vehicles using close. We'll get him in the mix again a little bit more this week in and see, you know, see where he's at a health west him. Jay on mills, obviously, couple penalties, the big play down in Tampa, the first play, but then you see the tackling the physical play pass breakups. What's your take away from his overall play these first few weeks? You know, Jalen actually been playing playing extremely well. You know, the flags yesterday. Obviously, he he's gotta get his his his off hand. You know, he's got a right or left hand. This football the off hand is is in a position where he's hooking. You just got to be cognizant of that and where that and try to get it off. But he he's always imposition. Seems like he's, he's right there to make the play. He's physical. He's toffee can come up and make tackles on the the ease been. He's been a solid quite honestly, at the corner position gives you stability on both sides with he and Rb. So again, a young player that's gonna continue more snaps, just get better and better. He's going to understand, you know, the game a little bit more and his technique, and you know. Really provide a a spark defensively of from time to time with with with, you know, pass breakups ability to what he does. Give a play to kind of forget about how porn is for you with any any athlete. Any player, especially young player, the quicker you can forget about it and move on. You know, the better you're gonna be and he can do that. You know, you can really whether it's a flag room, you know a pass or something that he can just forget about it move on. Are you giving Carson control at the line of scrimmage is still the scripted plays out of those things kind of work in hand again with that? Yeah. The first play is is scripted that we want to start with. But after that is just it's me just call and plays in into Carson based on what we wanna do and how we want attack. And then we did have a kill system built in, you know, so so he could. He can manage the the run game a little bit that way, but definitely wanted to start the game, no huddle that way for him. You were down deep threat and drifted Shelton Gibson to fill that kind of role. Y Shelton can't get on the field. Well, Renou were just, you know, without you knew a lot of scheme stuff, you know, we just felt better yesterday with some of our twelve personnel where thirteen personnel kept them in base defense. They did jump into Niccolo because then we were in our are twelve and thirteen personnel to run the football. So just the way the game can unfolded just a little bit, you know, Shelton's a young player this continuing to grow in and get get better with the offense. And and we had a package of place form yesterday, you know, just in get to. When he did go to the wrong, our good go, you do dude a lot in the game now. Not really. I say a lot of the just the structure of the defense allowed him to to get from one side to the other based on the front and the coverage and stuff we prepare and work on week. So he was he was good with his. Left. Right, right. Left. The way they played this other both played extremely well streaming tough. All three of them really put Josh into mix too with a couple of carries yet. But. Corean Wendell, both core, special teams players, and then turn around play offense and tough to do. And both these guys did a great job. You know, in in the when del runs, hard runs tough, Corey, the same way. Other young players, they continue to learn, continue to grow, get better each week and good to see. Guy. The best game, both as receivers in blockers, really? Well, they're smart guys. Deuces great job preparing these guys during the week with protection is is tough because we had so many different protections in in. Of course, we game on just understanding where and it all starts with obviously the center, the quarterback, where we point and all that. But there will sharp in the know they know how to either break off route, you know, in in in go get their protection or you know, just flat out, go get their guy, you know, and how they do the do, really your job. Five sacks several pressures. What were some of the issues protects? You know, it's it's a little both. Meaning meaning can be the quarterback a little bit. There's really three, three, three things. One offense Wang is beat. Sack happens. Second one is quarterback, hang on the ball or tries to scramble. You know, get sacked or the third one is just flat out coverage. Know they got wired and you're trying to extend the place. So little bit all three of those actually yesterday with five sacks and couple of situations, maybe just throw the ball away and and skip it and not not, which is openness situation, but they're all teachable. They're all correctable in learn from. Get some of those on Carson that doesn't need to get rid of the ball, maybe. Yeah. I said, I mean, there's someone align line or someone a quarterback in her some on the defense. So it's all three phases really affects act passed all would he was out of the backfield Gips jet, sweep action? What made that play work in whited Wendell, find space down down the field? Yeah, it, you know, it was just a play that that we actually have had our our playboy since last year and didn't really get to it, but that's opportunity with jet sweep. But a lot of teams and we run a lot of jets. We've action and it really just buys there is defensively on the on the jets. We've action just a little bit and allowed window to slip past the the defender down the same, and we caught them in the right coverage in and is great, catch grey throat. Great. Catch by window hallmarks of the. The last couple of years has been guys coming off the bench. You haven't played a much or at all, and and playing. Well, would you. You do it with your assistance due to keep guys involved during the week and also in game day who aren't playing. So when they do go into ready? Yeah, I think I think we do a great job are you know my sister to a great job in practice during the week, given these guys reps, you know. Just examples with the running backs. You know, if obviously j. Darren, don't practice than obviously Corey in when Dell and Josh out, they'll take take reps in practice. So we simulate the game best. We can in practice if Jason Peters can't go big Vigo's rubs, you know, or you know you're getting Isaac center reps or wherever it is, and you just keep preparing these guys each week and and same way on defense, you know, you're, you're getting young guys in there to play and the only way they can get better because a lot of times you know, practice reps is all they get. They don't get many, many snaps if any in the game. So the two credit to the to the assistant coaches to prepare everybody not just not just the stars get a giant or sproles or or both back this week? Yeah, they're both day to day right now. Will evaluate again on on tomorrow and players are in and see. But you know, I would expect barring any setbacks. They would both be billable. So much in the first three weeks eighty seven percent of the snaps is stable? Yeah. Shortly. He's playing extremely well us playing extremely well. I think to the with the with Derek Barnett you know, in some of the Russia's he's getting Khris long-planned well, I think it just helps the helps Fletcher, you know, Pelosi's in there taking some load. So you know, it's a, it's a combination of guys that can can allow Flechard have success in. It's just him just want to his his will to to be dominant defensive tackle. And that's what you're seeing right now. Well, the first one just Ida up Zac staredown just can't can't do that. Just brought the defender right there, and I'll just a support in the second one. Just getting ready to throw the separating. You know, and bog his arm got hit by the six day defensive tackle and just just got out. So. You know, try to try to learn from move on. Thanks. Erskine back. Just take us through how you fell back on the field is valuable. I felt good felt good to be out there kind of a longtime coming. Obviously a lot of excitement, lot of motions, but coming out the the way we did with that hot Sar going right down the field going no-huddle tempo fell good bogut. Little temple did something you requested wanted guys to beginning Duggan. I talked about it earlier in the week and thought it would be something just kinda get me started dolphins started all starting fast and any trusted us with it in obviously, result was. Turnovers game at the you should be to rust or just. Zutphen decision making. I mean, the interception guy made a great play. It's a rally throat are all the time. He just he just read right awhile in got gotta, be smart with that one. Another one's fortune stepping up in the pocket, getting hit cleanup. This things, obviously, you never want interceptions fumbles especially when you're backed up. Like we were in a couple of tough situations, but they stepped up played a good football game. Seventy plays. A lot of you guys were behind the sticks. Few players that you got him. The other one point and said, you know, of course argument against what was the message when invaded the guys in the middle of a drive, especially in that situation. Not think it was just we had the, the sack in the holding. I think it was. It was all said, second thirty or something like that. And I just the guys, let's get half of this. Let's get these hapless. Get us in third manageable. Just stay together was kind of all up in arms over the holding, whatever was necessary to stay together, stay on track in on exploit the holding defense holding of first down when we're rolling. Big lace today. Frustration award, canoes kind of expect that. I mean credit the colts defense on that. Honestly, I thought they played did some things different than we sell film, and I'm really just forces to drive, you know, they put a lot of soft zone. Coverage forces take a lot of things on need, so so really credit, the colts defense in same time we played our game in people in the right spots of sea sauce. Lot of two and three tight personnels out there. So that's kind of part of the game plan. Knowing what the goals like to do. In second quarter. When you that dive, I down you describe that play. Is that indicative of your willingness to play with the same abandoned you played with before you got her? I thought it was just a normal scramble to me. You know, obviously made a gun is in the pocket and. I now marker no for standard standard form ourselves cutter. Yet. I mean, I think with Dallas, he's shown me first of all, he's more football player on through training camp in being able to go the the no huddle stuff. I'm getting him in different situations, getting different spots, making calls at the line checks the line that you know he's very instinctive in good football player. Anonymously came a big with couple play. Loosely, his game there, which. I thought it went pretty well that obviously, emotions running high from the home. I woke up this morning, but. For me, I was just putting on worship music and just get in the zone like that. Just felt like it another game at the end of the day. Eight. I today. The children. On the run game help you today look like that was a real focused after. Yeah. I mean the running game huge. We had a lot of no-huddle kinda checks the line based on what we're getting covered wise in. They're playing a lot of soft zone covered. So you know the the running game helped us a lot in the passing game, obviously were down a little bit with roles in the JiJi out. So getting window getting Josh Adams going court. I think those those guys all stepped up in play good football. All the skill spots bogged down the dead short. What effect isn't is that having on on offense over? I think that's kind of football, football. And then I think that's where we're good coaching comes into play and getting our best guys out there also with two, three retired personnel there tonight. And I think that just was indicative of those injuries and just finding a way to to just get our best guys on the field and coaches as great job. Always scheming things up getting the right guys in the right positions in. So unfortunately, you don't. You don't want injuries, but the day you gotta with them, I think goes down good job of trouble getting the ball Aguilar, but on that last drive to third down conversions out of him both were yards after the catch. What were the plays third, five. And there's a third nine in what he do make possible today. Obviously, Melton today was a bunch going early in. Let's just part of it. You know, it's not something by any mice. Schemer designing those just their coverage. We have. Some things on Nathan on the tight ends. All kind of stepped up and played it put a good football game, third downs. I mean, those late in the game, Nelson always says a feel in being in the rights. And so you know, especially like him, Zach are the main targets that we look for third down in those he stepped up. Defense stopped him in the red zone, how to death by offense up. I think we both feed off each other offensively, seeing our defenses continually step up late in gains the have a home, even going back to last year. The first name of the year today just gives us a lot of energy and excitement on on the offensive side in knowing that if we just put one together now that defense hold in, that's what they did. You took where you said, okay, shoot, unrelieved now. I know I can. I know I can do this a couple times. We got hit of scrambler made a couple times very lucid in the pocket left right left forward. That sort of thing that any of those register light, hey, that's not really. You know, today I've been doing so much in practice, you know whether whether you guys Saud and train camper off the side with the trainers, whoever I'll have been doing so much that stuff for while now, obviously getting hit was new, but felt like felt like riding a bike in backup as events in different times in practice, different place where they said, Carson's Baxter's gonna be no limitations. Was there play like that for you in the past whatever four weeks? I don't think so. You know how nothing really sticks out. You know, it was a lot of going against the defenses, scouting quarterback. I was a little new for me, but yeah, just felt good for a while just to find out. Get out of the way it was done. If you, I mean, obviously it's us the despicable Wayne in hard-fought game with some some tough conditions out there guys really rallied around each other. The resilience I thought was huge today. We had talked about that long drive at the end. We had some really unfortunate situations. We ran in second in extra long downs, the Ford down, you know, a couple of things guys stay together. The defense stepping up the end as used for us to get us back on track. Wenches solves a couple times. Look like a lot of cover to this was emotional game where it's nine plus months is was a kind of a little bit harder than I wanna press insane, mature enough as a player to just take what they give me. Obviously, they had some might afford me. I'm coverage wise in country a little bit, but that's all. That's all that comes with it. That's as good defense over anything that you're. Mind that hold you. No, not really. I think once I got back out there got that first incompletion out of the way kind of threw that one down the field a little Gresley we rolling from there.

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RTFF #317 Week 11 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

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RTFF #317 Week 11 (Part 2)

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You know, they're play colour Byron left, which has started to get things together offensively. I kind of think they might finish strong. And I definitely think they're going to win this week. And I definitely think that Chandler Jones is going to whip up on Colt. Miller who can't block anybody at left tackle for the raiders raiders can't block anyone in terms of pass protection. And Derek Carr is playing scared and he's taken over three sacks in six of his last seven games any spiking. Fourth-down passes into the dirt in the raiders have scored ten points or fewer in four of their last five and they've been particularly incapable of scoring points on the road. They've actually had a couple of decent games offensively against the Browns in the coals. At home offensively. But you know, and you could think right back to that Thursday game against the forty Niners. The Nick Mullins forty nine or are they scored three? You know? That was in the bay area or that was at San Francisco, so. I love the court the cardinals defense plus David Johnson. At home against the raiders. Who can't they just can't stop a soul and David Johnson ball. And again, I looked at just another great back of the napkins to typical projection this week, David Johnson. So the raiders give up one hundred seventy total yards two opposing running backs and per game. And David Johnson has eighty four percent of the cardinals total yards per game among their running backs. So. I went with eighty four percent of one seventy and I gave David Johnson one hundred and forty five total yards just to begin with. I think that's right around is floor. And then you tack on you know, a touchdown or two. And I mean, he's one of the best running back Claes of the week. I think he's legit top five running back play which we've come a long way since early in the season when he was like a Mead range too, low end Rb two. Larry FitzGerald twelve and ten targets through two games with Byron left, which is play. Caller, raiders have been terrible in the slot. Stardom rookie seals Jones. Very interesting streamer this week. The raiders have been just they've just got trounced by tight ends all year. They play a new different set of safeties every week to hear Whitehead is getting beat linebacker for like seven touchdowns on the season. And. Rickie Lee Jones nine targets last week. He's run. He's run thirty seven and forty routes in the last two games. That's just ridiculous numbers of routes run. For Ricky seals Jones, very boomer bust streamer, but definitely worthy of consideration. Christian. Kirk has been kind of all over the map. And not not not the featured receivers since Byron left which took over. He could very well have a good game this week raiders give up a lot of big plays, especially on outside. But you know, he's like a fringe wide receiver three slash four slash flex. I. The raiders offense. I don't think so man we can move onto the next one. Next game. Let's get to the Broncos and the chargers. Yes. So Broncos man their running game took some serious hits from fantasy standpoint. In the last few weeks lost their starting center. Matt parodies arguably their best offensive lineman. That is in a company you with already losing Ronald Leary to torn achilles not ideal not ideal. You want your interior ofensive linemen to be intact offensive line to be intact. He's your maybe your best to run blockers on on the team. So. And then we're bringing it back Royce Freeman to turn the backfield back into three man timeshare, and what are we say on the first podcast about us. Three man timeshares. You know, you really don't want any part of them. Philip Lindsay is going to continue to be the best option. But Royce Freeman is gonna vulture touchdowns. And devante Booker is going to siphon passing aim work. And that's. It's bad news for fantasy case keenum. Not trying to mess with him against the chargers. Emmanuel sanders. Desmond king has been excellent. But. Charters? Have have given up big games to slot receivers this year number one number two mangle centers may start to play outside more. With Sean with they Sean Hamilton at Penn State coming back from his injury day. Sean Hamilton has been about fifty percent slot. Fifty percent outside a Mainul Schaffner's has been like seventy percent slot thirty percent outside but he may run more outside routes now with Daesh on Hamilton as the Broncos new third receiver. I think that Tim, Patrick we'll go back to being the number four. Jeff Hoyer men. Hire minute. Hire men. She's okay. Hire men. Jeff Hier men. Knox to their frigging game against the Houston accents in week nine. You know, I had been kind of on him and fast like every week before that until then. And of course, I didn't play him at all. And that was a great matchup against the Texans two and they removed Maria's Thomas from the offense. What would a donkey thing to not like him to not play him in fantasy that particular week? Of course, there's price is now skyrocketed, and he's facing Derwin, James and Jalil die and. Chargers defense that has been pretty good against titans. Although they are going to be without Denzel Perryman for the rest of the season. They are already lost Qazir white critical dude in coverage at the linebacker position. So. Hormones going to hire. I mean is going to have some opportunities against the chargers. I you know, I'm not gonna play him in daily fantasy personally. But with no Damaris, you know, he might end up being the biggest beneficiary correlated Sutton is still he's not a guy there. Nessler -sarily pushing targets to like he's going to get big play opportunity. He was very close to scoring along touchdown in that game against the Texans. And of course, I played him in daily fantasy that week. And I wanted him to score. But cherise right made a very good player at knock it out at the last second. And but it was like a like a would be forty yard touchdown that takes your game from you know, he had like what three for fifty seven take shit from three fifty seven to four hundred and a touchdown. And that's a massive swing in our beloved game of inches. The cordless Sidon is going to have to deal with a lot a lot of. Casey Hayward here. And I think he's a wide receiver four that actually could open up a lot of stuff for Jeff Weyermann higher amid in the middle of the field. The chargers. You know, they just they're not. They don't throw the ball very much. They just really don't throw the ball very often in that has been a problem for Philip rivers. I mean, he's having an incredible real real life year, you know, and he hasn't been bad in famous. He, but he hasn't been great in any games. He has been a top ten fantasy quarterback in one game out of nine. You know, and they don't when they're not pressed to you know, have to score. Then they're, you know, the they don't play with a whole lot of urgency, and that's fine. That's a winning formula. But it's not great for fantasy football against Denver. I think he's a fringe quarterback one without a whole lot of upside. And that means that I'm you know, look to play other dudes, I'm looking to play Mitchell Trubisky. I'm looking to play, you know, Marcus mariota. I'm looking to play either of these guys obviously on Thursday night. You know? So not ideal for Philip rivers kina now, and he's going to get a lot of snaps against Chris heiress in this game. I'm I'm still starting them in season-long but lowering expectations the best matchups. Go to tyrel, Mike Williams. They don't get a lot of targets. And so you know, they've gotta make due on four to five targets a game. Which makes them very touchdown dependent. I don't think that the chargers are going to be pressured to score here. You know, at all really, I think it's going to be like a. I don't know twenty four twenty seven. Like also like twenty seven to seventeen type of game. And so, you know, I I don't think that necessarily bows. Well for like one of them might score a touchdown, but probably not both Melvin Gordon. Melva Gordon has been incredible this year, and I expect that to continue against Denver Broncos are not going to get back. Brandon Marshall at inside linebacker after their by. And you know, the is like a major home favorite here. The charge for the chargers. Melvin Gordon is in is in a great position to continue to smash Austin echo or had a touchdown called back last week. But he just has not beginning to rot very much. Nothing doing at tight end for this team. We can move onto the next one next game. The eagles end the saints. Both teams have the potential to put up a bunch of points. My guess is the saints will and the eagles somehow will not. Yeah. I I'm I'm being optimistic on the eagles this week. You know, and I was to Optimus dick on them last week. Carson Wentz did have a good fantasy game. But they were very disappointing as a team again. I just I don't know what is the deal with their fourth down defense. I mean, they play pretty good defense for three quarters and then in the fourth quarter, they just completely collapsed. And it's really been a recurring theme, you know, and it stuck out against the Cowboys. And it stuck out against the answers in that game where they were kind of in control entire game. And then Cam came back against them. I I'm sticking with Carson Wentz. He's way underpriced in daily fantasy. I liked the just the makeup of this game. Because both of these teams can stop the run. No understand that Zeke eulogised ran all over the eagles. But for the most part the eagles have been a really good run defense this year. Hopefully, they can get back. Tim Jernigan this week. I think he's I would even raise the scoring probability on both sides you want east teams to not be running the ball. You want them to be throwing the ball? You know, throwing the ball stops the clock. Throwing the ball raises your probability of scoring touchdowns. Throwing a ball. You know, raises your expectation in terms of yards per play average yards per play of a rushing play. Is, you know, sore the average expectation for a passing play between these teams is probably like eight and a half or maybe even nine. So, you know, you want these teams throwing and I think that they will be I mean it goes without saying drew Brees Michael Thomas just the the ultimate stack ADF ESTES week. I actually like trae Quant Smith to bounce back a lot. He's going to get like hate dropped in a lot of leagues this week. But his usage was all all that. You know is very very normal. You just didn't get any targets. But he ran his usual number of routes played his usual numbers NATs. Just the Saint the flow of the game boded poorly for trae Kwan Smith who runs downfield routes. And there was no reason for the saints to throw downfield last week when you're stomping your opponent, you know, fifty one to fourteen or whatever it was. So I don't think they're going to stop the eagles fifty one to fourteen may maybe they will stop the eagles. But I think that the eagles are going to score more points than than than that. So I I liked trae Kwan Smith a lot you look at the eagles secondary. And I did a tweet about this earlier in the week that the first team secondary had Ron Rodney McLeod. Free safety. It had Sidney Jones slot corner. It had Ronald Darby right corner. Inner had Jalen mills left corner. And it had Malcolm Jenkins strong safety. And there's one dude remaining from from that now come Jenkins, and I don't think he's having his best year. I don't you just you don't see him making plays very much this season. So I, you know, they're secondary is almost the worst possible shape. And I think they can saints can absolutely take advantage of that been watching just not running pass routes anymore. They have used Dan Arnold. The have used Gino, Josh hill. They want. They wanted to use Dez Bryant, but he tourists. I now they're gonna try with Brandon marshal. So. I think that. I I'm not trying to use any of the of the saints tight ends. It's three man rotation. Maybe even afford man rotation. I think that Brandon Marshall is going to be actually more of a tight end. Then a wide receiver Alvin Kamara monster. You no good. If the if the eagles play good run defense. Good. That's good for Alvin Kamara. You want him to be getting the ball in the passing game in the eagles have given up a lot of production. In the passing game two opposing running backs. The game last week really set up well for the Bengals to I mean for the saints to give Mark Ingram the ball, more than usual. We've seen his two big games. So far this year. They both came in very similar style of games. They just controlled the game against the Redskins. And they controlled the game against the Bengals and Mark Ingram. Eight in those games. Hey, if you think that the saints are going to control this game against the eagles. You know, go for it with Mark Ingram. I think the eagles are going to show up in score points. But you know, guess what I thought that too last week in that did not happen. So eagles Carson Wentz. Yeah. I mean, I'm playing him in daily fantasy this week absolutely transparent with Zakar tes Zakar, shoot it. You know, I thought that there was a chance that golden Tate might cut into his targets. No golden Tate was the eagles fourth receiver in his first game. And I'm sure that his usage is going to rise. But. He didn't do anything to cut into Zakar its production in in week in the first week Zakar said his best game all year from a box score standpoint. So I think that is absolutely the stack there to continue to roll with our Sean Jeffrey probably going to get a lot of Marshon Lattimore, and I'll show on Jeffrey. He's looked great at times this year, but he's been really up and down in in what has been a fairly up and down passing game. And you know, there's no vertical threat to help. These guys out there really is no vertical threat in the eagles passing attack. And that has been. You know, I think that has been one of the biggest issues for them, really, you know, last year, at least it was Tori Smith they were hoping that it would be Mike Wallace. But he got injured, and they have a bunch of other underneath dudes. No one's even averaging over twelve yards per catch. I mean, I'll Shaun's at eleven point eight was Akers right around ten aga- Laura's. What like nine Igor was still the the slot receiver last week. You still the primary slot receiver actually played real. Well, five catches for eighty three. He's kinda sneaky this week. I I don't I don't think that he's going to be changed out very much. I mean, I think that they're going to continue to roll with him. You played more in the slot. Then golden Tate did golden Tate. They try to like go manufacturer touches for golden Tate. It it didn't go very well. You know, it's just I don't know it it can be hard to incorporate a receiver. In season. We've seen the which strange is that you know, when we think about the Cowboys in the eagles coaching staff. The Cowboys were able to do. It seamlessly with Amari Cooper and eagles struggle to do it. At least in the first game. With golden Tate. Running game is just an absolute nightmare for the eagles both in real life and fantasy window Smallwood. And Corey comment have been bad. Josh Adams has been good. But you know, he's like a one phase runner and he is one target in the passing game all season. And this game does not set up well for Josh Adams. I would think you should wear stashing and all season long leagues. But this game is not set up. Well for him. Eagles are big dogs on the road. And he doesn't again he doesn't play in the passing game in the saints are great in terms of rushing efficiency allowed which is Josh Adams bread and butter. We can move onto the next one Sunday night looking forward to this one. Vikings off a bye against Trubisky Khalil Mack and the bears there in Chicago. Yeah. This is a great real-life game. That is not easy to in allies in fantasy. First of all, I don't know if a bunch of these Vikings defenders in offensive lineman. They were out before the by will be coming back. My guess is that they're probably going to get back almost everyone. It was a lot of dudes. Okay. It was Riley ref- left tackle, it was Tom Compton at left guard. I think rather reef actually did come back in the game before the by. So he should certainly be back. And then Anthony Barr on outside linebacker, Andrew Sunday, ho free safety. Xavier Rhodes he did come back in the game before the by. But he could make it through the whole game. But I would guess he's back. You know, live all Joseph has been back Everson. Griffen has been back. So. That's that's a lot of town right there. The that the eagles that the Vikings were missing in the first half of the season. All those guys combined to miss a ton of games. But I mean, this is going to be, you know, a real tough task for Mitchell Trubisky who has just destroyed bad defenses. The lines were bad defense, you know, the buccaneers or a bad defense. But this is going to be a major test for Mitchell Trubisky in the scheme. I mean matinee just gets dudes open. Dudes are open all day long for the bears. And Mitchell Trubisky has done a better job than not getting the ball. Still has the head-scratching throws balls in the dirt throws into crowds. But. He also has made a lot of plays, and he's very very dangerous with his legs. And that's really the most underrated aspect of his game. He second among quarterbacks in rushing yards behind only Cam Newton. He's like a fringe volatile quarterback one play this week. I do have him in some spots this week. I think I'm gonna go with Marietta over over him. But you know, that's kind of in the range that where he is mariota versus Mitchell Trubisky. Another good thing for him. But not so good for fantasy is that the bears pass catcher core is fully back intact. That makes it difficult to sort out. You know, how Robinson of course, he looks like an alpha wide receiver one against the Troy when they don't have Darius slay. How's he gonna look against save your roads? You know, Taylor. Gabriel goes catch less last week dealer. Gabriel has. Two games over one hundred yards this season and seven below fifty five. Tree Burton has the best metric by far among the bears pass catchers against the Vikings who've been shredded by tight ends sovereignty ver-, Anthony Miller, you know, we talked about him before the season as a guy who might even be a asleep or to lead the team in receiving. And you know, he's showed that over the last five games that he that. He could be that guy. You know, he probably would need like out Robinson to get hurt again or something, but he's that type of player he's a volume slot receiver. And he's out there. He is not been at one hundred percent is gaze Blake playing in a shoulder harness. So I think that any Anthony Miller is like a like a like a lower end wide receiver three kinda riskier wide receiver three. But the matchup isn't bad at all MacKenzie Alexander. The Viking slot cornerback. The week is corner and a guy that you can attack in matinee GI may look to specifically attack. Jordan Howard completely touchdown or bust. You know passing game role. Greg Cosell recently mentioned that he thought that Jordan Howard was looking a little pudgy. You know, I'm no, I'm no one to call anybody pudgy. But I would say that he probably hasn't looked at his is premium self so far this year. And he's he's not been good unless he score touchdowns in fantasy Tarik Cohen. I think is going to play a lot more than Jordan Howard in this game. And I think that he is in all right Rb to slash flex in PR leagues. Bears defense. Also, pretty good play. Just because the Vikings offensive line is is bad. Kirk cousins has been great under pressure though this year, I am not looking to play him at Soldier Field. It's going to be cold. I can tell you right now. I live in Chicago at you know, it's it's freezing man, and it's supposed to be freezing all week long. I would expect it to be very cold on Sunday night. At Soldier Field. Right off the lake. I mean, that's you know, I don't I don't necessarily live right off the lake but it gets real cold and windy Kirk cousins, not not a good matchup for him, Stefan, digs out of feeling. You know, Adam Phelan. The the bears have done a very good job against Adam feeling. I was surprised when I when I looked this up, but it's it's only a four game sample. But I mean, they have won four all four of the battles. No touchdowns. No, sixty yard games. Something to note. You know, the we're playing at him feeling and fantasy but. You know, his his matchup is kind of difficult at least based on Stoorikhel. Battersea pitcher team versus specific into individual player. The bears have not done a good job against Stefan digs though. And I thought that that was interesting to note as well. He has had monster games against the bears. Colorado. First of all the bears have not been up single fifty our game to a tight end yet this season. Carl Rudolf has been a disappointment. Not scoring touchdowns has five targets inside the ten yard line tied for the most on the team with Adam Zealand, but it's only converted one into touchdown. Touchdown. Her bus guy. Dalvin cook looked very good. Before the by week. And he looked like a guy that maybe the Vikings. Mike's try to go back to featuring. I think latavius Murray's definitely going to be involved. But dalvin cook. Is the better option the seven yard run that he had was the fastest run play clocked by next gen stats all season that I thought that was a promising sign for dolphin Cup. Then he's got the by now is coming off. He should be good to go as an Rb to. And I do think that he's a Bilo in fantasy the rest of the way we can move onto the Monday night. Monday night was supposed to be in Mexico City. Now, it's LA chiefs. Rams. I mean is there anybody not to start? Is there anything to say about this game? That's the question. That's the question. No. I mean, we could talk about like the smaller guys. I mean, you know, the deal with Pat, Mahomes, Jared golf and girly in Kareem hunt cream hunting is an awesome play. We saw. Rams get lit up last week by the Seahawks Houdini and other starting running back. The they they they got lit up on the ground. I need. I mean, they had like almost three hundred rushing yards against Seattle or against the Rams at like eight yards per attempt. You know, tyreek on the road. You know? That's that's always that's worked for us for years at this point. Kelsey against the Rams Rams have not been particularly good against tight ends Brandin cooks against the Seahawk or the chiefs outside Cornerbacks. That's major major mismatch there. So Cooper Cup is out. And. What the Rams have done. Previously is use rubber woods at slot receiver and put Josh Reynolds in on the outside. The chiefs have played their best defense against slot receivers, you know. And there have been a number of weeks where you know, I knew that. And I still tested it and it didn't go. Well, you know, most recently Larry FitzGerald against the chiefs. Now he had ten targets and at six catches for fifty yards. And it's definitely not a terrible game. But I definitely expected more from him. And she's not given a big games slot receiver since like week two. So that is notable for Robert woods. Josh Reynolds is real real interesting here. So everyone wanted to play him in daily fantasy when so could become as two games with MC L injury. Everyone wanted to play him daily fantasy the first game. And he did like nothing. I mean, I can't I don't think you got a target. But then the second game came a no one wanted to play him. And of course, he scores two touchdowns in that game. You know? And so I think that people are probably gonna go back to him. He's real cheap anyways in this game with the I know the total is probably come down a little bit because it's not in Mexico. I don't know. Maybe it hasn't calmed come down. But I think it's still going to be above sixty and one thing that Jonathan Bailes noted Jonathan bales of action network fantasy last we've had him on the show will four he noted that there have been. In what eleven games sense over the past couple of decades that have been totals of fifty seven and a half or more all of them. Went over the total, and it's by an average of ten points. So you know, we might get a seventy point game here between Kansas City in the Rams. And you know, you want just access to that game with Josh Reynolds with you know, what are some of the cheaper pieces. Maybe Sammy Watkins, you know, another guy to me to think about is Gerald Everett who we talked about last week. He had five targets. He ran a season high in routes in week nine than week ten short a touchdown. His routes were down though. But now that Cooper cub is out for the year. They may commit to using jail every more, you know, just in the in that to game little window. He didn't do a whole lot. But you know, they knew the Cooper Cup was coming back. So there wasn't necessarily any reason to tweak their offense, but Gerald Everett. Now that they know that Cooper covers not coming back. He becomes somewhat interesting streamer in. That's really all we have to say about the game. I mean, just you know, you're playing the Thursday Monday slate on the fat DFS. You're going to want to have his penny. Dudes in here as you possibly can. Because if you don't you're going to be like looking at your winnings. And every time the ball moves in this game, you're winnings or just going to be going down down down. And that's that's never fun. The goal really should be to try to just get his find as many good values in the Thursday through Sunday games to to just be able to get access to this game with as many of your spots as many of your lineup spots as you possibly can good luck to everyone in week eleven Evan. That was incredible. As always dare, I say you were RAD today. 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At the Podium: Practice Squad Analysis & Howie Speaks

Bleeding Green Nation

24:33 min | 1 year ago

At the Podium: Practice Squad Analysis & Howie Speaks

"This episode is brought to you by cox with contour t._v. From cox you can find all your favorites all in one place it. Does it have the youtube you bet ah what about that netflix thing net flicks too and although superhero movies contour has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big in green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself okay. I think we're done now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contour contour t._v. From cox the eagles are at the podium and practice squad day here at leading green nation. This is brought to you of course by espy nation. I am your host host. Michael kissed and today we had a presser from howie roseman who spoke with the media on saturday after roster cut downs to give his two cents and answer questions from reporters as the eagles moved from a ninety man roster to fifty three man roster so that's going to be in the second part of this show here. I thought as promised on b._g._n. Radio seventy eight which was the roster reaction show with me and brandon lee gotten. I've got updates on the various moves that the eagles have made today here on sunday including filling filling out their practice squad. I think the most interesting one is the addition of giants quarterback kyle a letter to the practice squad instead of clayton thorson around five rookie from northwestern who struggled all can't and all of preseason. We're going to talk about this one more on the q._b. Sco show this week which is also going to be a preview preview of the matchup with washington quarterback case keenum but i'll give it quick teaser on that as headed into day three of the two thousand eighteen n._f._l. Draft mark scofield wrote this about about the richmond spider kyle aleta quote coming out of the senior bowl aleta was talk at the quarterback position almost every draft related conversation but questions about out his arm strength linger even after his velocity numbers at the combine were perhaps a better than expected for him. Yes he lacks an elite arm and does not have the pure velocity of other passers in this class but he makes up for that deficiency with his quick processing speed and his ability to make anticipation throws plus when you remember that most offenses function in the shorter areas of the field lalla can run an n._f._l. Offense unquote so i was there with scofield in mobile alabama to watch letter and i was similarly impressed arrest in fact i remember him in i along with benjamin solarmax sitting at practice and talking him as he went through some red zone drills and not saying that we thought he was special but he handled himself yeah well and showed us that he had the tools to at least stick around the league for a bit and be a backup option down the line with the right development track now he gets to continue that development in philadelphia so if it was a choice between him and clayton thorson i would've always gone letter and honesty several other quarterbacks that were available and i think i've been i'm pretty consistent in that regard with that. Take so while the eagles made an objectively bad pick they cut bait didn't fall into the sunk cost fallacy and brought brought in a quarterback. I personally like better and ultimately it's essentially the queue before spot indie fifth round. Pick which you know while you love to hit on those the success rate on those fifth round selections is are so low that really it's not that serious as all the criticism being flown around including by yours truly i was very critical of the beg at the time and then moving on from that but moving onto other the practice squad moves and all of this up at pleading green nation dot com running back boston scott remains with the team wide receiver marcus green which i'm going to be honest honest. I have zero idea who he was but what i found was that he was a sixth round selection from louisiana monroe five eight one ninety one small dude. He took kick and punt return duties for the atlanta falcons in the preseason. Here's a reason why he was caught to muffed punt out of seven so that's not great and only one reception for eight yards in the preseason so there's not a lot to go off of there. I mean i just looked through a couple of draft guides and i couldn't find him so he's relatively unknown. Just about everywhere be be interested to see what he can bring to the team other additions to the practice squad include offensive guard suwa opeta linebacker and special teams darling alex singleton chooses chooses to stick with the eagles instead of going back to the cfl tight and alex ellis who is impressive as a receiver but nissan approve as a blocker sticks. We talked about him on alaska's and solex. Oh speaking of titans josh perkins is in fact a back and as expected wide receiver greg ward junior has cleared waivers and sticks on the practice squad after an impressive camp in preseason and lastly from what's been announced defensive tackle. Bruce hector is staying in philadelphia. Now that's nine players and the eagles have ten dan spots and there are reports that the eagles are bringing in waived cornerback from the vikings craig james who was active for only three games last year didn't record any stats. What's the eagles. Don't have a defensive back on the practice squad right now. The only kept five corner so it makes sense that james will complete it and be the tenth touching on where some other eagles went went windows snitch would excuse me smallwood goes to washington on their fifty. Three man roster have fun with that washington. Clayton thorson is a cowboy practice squad. Yeah i would really have a hard time deciding between him and mike white mike white had a disastrous offseason process and preseason. Josh adams the running back. The eagles leading running back last here is a new york jet so a reunion with joe douglas there but just on the practice squad offensive lineman brett toth was claimed by the arizona cardinals so so it's the end of a very short era there. I'm sure there's more that i missed or this yet to be announced. Of course we'll have you covered here as we learn more and also bleeding green nation dot com. Tom will have news on every single roster moved at the eagles. Make as we gear up for week one against washington remember big news is coming your way about this podcast cast fee if you haven't yet make sure you're following at b._g. And underscore radio on twitter so you see when the news drops and we're just waiting on everything to become official and i'm incredibly excited for what that means to this feed and the type of content will be bringing to you throughout the season. It's been an incredible journey to this point and we thank you for your support center listeners. It's always deeply appreciated by everyone here at b._g._n. And we thank you for joining us on the journey that is going to be the two thousand nine hundred nine n._f._l. Season so make sure you're subscribed on whatever app you're using to listen to podcasts stopped by apple podcast <unk> a five star rating and review and most of all continue being the best listeners on the planet all right with all those updates out of the way we've still got the howie rose been press conference to get too. That's going to be injected into your ear balls right after we pay some bills to keep the lights on so we'll be right back with howie a week from saturday when he was at the podium football is finally back and nothing adds to the excitement of watching that first game like having having a shot at a million dollars draft kings the leader in one day fantasy football is celebrating the start of the season with an extra special week one contest new the users can sign up today and get a free shot at the one million dollar grand prize just by using code espy nation. Here's what you do download the draftkings app yep use that code s._p. Nation draft six players from the opening thursday night showdown between chicago and green bay and then draft king single game showdown contest the test with two and a half million dollars in total prizes already draftkings user you can get in on the action to for a limited time. Both new and existing and users can get a deposit bonus up to five hundred dollars. Don't forget download the draftkings app and use code s._p. Nation for your free shot at one million dollars dollars. Only at draftkings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility restrictions apply see draftkings dot com for details awesome. Thank you guys for coming on tonight. I know it's a beautiful day great weekend and you guys got to be away from families for appreciate at the time when there with you you know i want to start off by thanking the entire organization. Training camp is a huge process process for this organization putting together here novacare complex and a lot of people working lots of hours and <hes> on the business side on the football side and so that that whole process just wanna start by thanking everyone for taking part in that and take time same token today's tough day for us as an organization. We have a lot a lot of players that have done a lot of good things. Every single person who was on that roster week pick we chose and so having those conversations they are hard <hes> we obviously wish them the best of luck but at the same time want to thank them for all their contributions so <hes> with that question is yeah dave for us we look at the roster as a sixty three man roster and so <hes> six we look at the sixty sixty three men and how many numbers that we're going to keep their and how many on the forty six so <hes> just because we have to fifty three dozen million that will end up having to practice or wound up having to kind of only go play. We'll see what happens here in the next day or so impressive sober. What else could they've done. You know i it's interesting because you go through the whole off season and your whole goals to collect as much talent as you possibly. Can you know you want to build build a team. You want to find the right guys and then this week you really start trying to figure out roles and responsibilities and trying to to build a team and trying to find find the right fit so the guy's having the right roles right responsibilities having the right culture creating the rights sort of environment so that guys can thrive in greystone tremendous job and <hes> really i. I don't have an answer what he could to damore other than were trying to balance everyone we have at every position and what we're looking for offensively defensively on on special teams and sometimes it just comes down to looking for a specific role from that specific spot and you know when we look at at the wide receiver room and what we're looking for and what greg had done on special teams and maybe what we're looking for from that fifth receiver respond on special teams. It was just not something that he had done so. You're right great cranach medicine starting wine feel so comfortable with that group of guys while i think when you look at it you know you look at our starting group and we're really excited about our starting group and then <hes> you talk about someone like big v who <hes> it shows tremendous ability not only attack away starting left tackle in the super bowl but now comes in and plays plays guard and chose his value there and does a tremendous job for us there in our first round pick is not starting for us and <hes> now he guy that we have a lot out of confidence in and then you look at the backups that we have after that and they all versatility <hes> you really can go one by one and we're excited about. Is we have a good mix of veteran players on the offensive line and also youth that we think really can develop and developing good players that you'll try to add a tight end not just for the fifty. I remember after but the well we'll see you know i think when you look at it again a lot of things come into the equation and we think that we have versatility <music> on roster on offensive roster guys who can do certain roles and <hes> also you know what we're looking for specific to not only offense but also special teams zimbabwe types on special teams in certain positions on special teams so <hes> we will definitely add another tight end to the sixty three man roster when we look at that but we'll see how the week goes and what's available to us five drought hit on as take again. How do you look back now on the clinton <unk> cleaning forces so i think that <hes> for us when we made the decision to sign josh obviously that put clinton in a tough spot and <hes> we look we look back at the situation that we've been in the last couple years and that quarterback room and just how josh would fit in with carson sometimes we forget carson twenty six years old navy not young player and <hes> having that veteran in there with those guys and you see the chemistry developing already in <hes> real excited about the quarterback room and same token can <hes> obviously than you like oh fifth round pick but you know about that we look at it. Necessarily you know you'll see today. They're gonna be a lot of draft picks cut in in rounds that are higher than fifth round and lower than the fifth round we gotta do what's best for our football team and and build our team the way we see fit and so <hes> <hes> the same time you know things even out we added to undrafted free agents and i'm really excited about those guys too so <hes> you know i think for us. We gotta figure out what's the best. We're not gonna just keep guys on the team because we drop them around. Look at the <hes> bring back to the guys who like over here two rushers in order to comment on the decision to leave josh <unk> players good players and you're talking about you know are leaning russia and a guy who played for us in the super bowl and so <hes> those are hard conversations to have and i think it's just a testament to what we have in our room right now really excited about that. Jordan todd a tremendous offseason and you see his vision <hes> his instincts is power and then in your miles realized come on gandhara back and just what he can do obviously in the passing game as a return or his veteran leadership and then we talk about complementary complimentary roles in each room having complementary roles in and corey really he compiled off for downs and and he's a heck of a special teams player and he looks one hundred percent so we like mike how all those guys play off each other. We get the shorter term. Injuries are guys who are gonna be out for a couple of weeks but not long-term correct complicate things for you well. It's a good thing that they're short term where we're excited about that and it's a testament to our training staff and and really when you look at it are are soft tissue injuries were down dramatically this year during training camp and <hes> he knows so we're excited that those guys are gonna hit an opportunity to come back so it does complicate in terms of just how we're trying to sort everything out and at the same time <unk> are australia's set for now four o'clock but we're constantly looking to evolve and get better and continue to look for areas that we can improve and <hes> as we get some of those guys back. We'll have to make some decisions now. We're you can get into any trade talks with any teams in any specifics but <hes> i would say this <hes> anyone who is valuable <hes> at any level whether on the waiver wire whether they're available by trade i promise we look into edwards and john alex <hes> <unk>. Allergies seem to trying to go back and forth <unk> what kind of separated p._j. That's a good question you know. Both guys had really good camps and i think the day that was a tough call for us and <hes>. I think that they have a little bit different. Different skill sets you know <hes> they play a little bit different spots in our defense really for us at the end of the day <hes> we kind of went back and forth on it and decided to go with t._j. And <hes> house ousted really good job in a are pro scouts is a lot of credit for the guys they brought in from cfl that that was a good group that they brought in five safety. You know i think that when you look at those guys that group as a whole and you talk about i obviously you know malcolm in the kind of player is and then getting rodney back and how big that is <hes> then you look a- sunday ho and just really since he walked in this building. You know sometimes you get guys. Is there even different than you thought you know. Sometimes i'm bad way sometimes in good ways until you kind of them you know and he's been really one of the the big surprises houses for us through the hall whole off season and really training camp and just the kind of player he is <hes> hype presents himself everyday how he works how he studies his athleticism awesome so <hes> for for us with him and the things that he can do for the defense it's been exciting and <hes> and then bring in sip and you know we talked about out here with just about transitioning and transitioning from collecting talent to having roles and responsibilities and for sip you know this is a different role for him. He's he we started every game that he's played and he was hurt last year and <hes> now in that four safety role. We need something different from him. We need him to be <hes> really a leader on on special teams and and really good on special teams and we've had that conversation with him and team braces it <hes> he wants to win and so <hes> that's kind of where you have sips role and we know you can come in and plan defensive. We need that and then rudy ford you know rudy for us was one of those guys special teams who just jumped off the tape in he can fill specific roles <hes> <hes> you know we gotta get them right and we will and then when he comes back. I think that our fans will see why we liked him. On special teams i mean he had some speed and he can play some role roles that we're really looking through for the off season so we're excited back in look at the fifty. Three names looks on the word. Which is the third the team as a whole. I think we have a lot of talent and <hes> the question is how come together as football team. You know we started here era and <hes> we had an opportunity to talk to the team the first day of training camp and <hes> we talked about that there was town in this room but we need to come together as a team and <hes> that comes through experiences through the course of the season that comes from dealing with adversity through the course of the season. We think that we have the right character and right leadership on this team on the coaching staff on the field to do that but now we gotta go show that the other yeah. I think that you know that's that's one that probably we. We have a different opinion than maybe he's been popularly reported you know we look at that defensive and group and i know coach schwartz's talked a lot about how exciting is about derek barnett and and <hes> how dare we think is a really good football player. You're gonna get an opportunity here to start and you know we all know about brandon graham and brenda graham what he can add vinnie vinnie vinnie looks better than two years ago. You know vinnie vinnie. He's a guy that really is comeback with a renewed focus renewed energy <hes> his leadership his energy on the practice. It's been great and then works by our young group. You know <hes> if you said <hes> you were you were scouting and you're looking around and saying what young defense van the best preseason. I don't know that there's a better young defensive end in football day. Sean hall this preseason. He deserves a tremendous amount of credit. <hes> he went and he worked on his body in the offseason he came back thirty pounds heavier and they proved on the field and <hes> josh wet had a really good camp and <hes> we expect him to be able to contribute be two fourth round pick and sharieff reflected in the games and you can see athleticism and he has tools in his body and at the same time you know we have to understand too. We have to develop players persson's <hes> you know we're talking about our roster and we have a lot of guys who are good players and make good money and we got better on young players. We've got a better scouting scouting got a better coaching and <hes> we're taking <unk> along joe dr <unk> departure and iwata victim over hours <hes> ever had heavy rain in major changes in the way the call joe douglas on the phone instead of going next door his office so that's a big transition <hes> <hes> you know it. It was really fun seeing joe in new york and <hes> we miss him. Mike we miss a lot of people who who've left here but excited for him and his opportunity there and you know and deserves credit for stepping into that role and really <hes> having seamless process and <hes> he's he's. His scout has done a great job then <hes> the building together as a whole. You know this this bill right building. We have a lot of good people in this building and there's not a day that goes by that i walk in and that <hes> someone someone doesn't make me laugh usually for the right reasons and <hes> we have fun but we also work hard and i think that's tone is really sad but jeffrey ing coach peterson and <hes> you know. We just try to uphold that chemistry. Both your early on the first three guys in the draft must have doing good. They're worried contributor. Yeah i mean <hes> really excited about those three guys. <hes> is funny. When i saw joel on the field said <hes> <unk> our first three thanks don don really getting because our first three picks are pictures kind of confused by the question <hes> but andre andre as a tremendous has a chance to be a tremendous player and and he's got great work ethic and <hes> you know he he continues to work on anything that are perceived weaknesses. He's got great feet <hes> he's really <hes> into it and he's got maybe the best left of all time to learn from so <hes> that's really exciting and for him again to be able to sit there and develop and learn and and <hes> you know he he's above probably where we thought he'd be at this time which is really exciting. Miles you know miles has a chance to to really contribute to this football team this year and he he's got great combination of feet empower. I think the one of the things that you know maybe it's hard to realize till he see z. Miles and pads is how much power he plays with him and he he does not he's not afraid of lowering shoulder and really he's got some thome and so <hes> he's he's a guy that's gonna get an opportunity to player and contribute right away and i think that's exciting and then you know i think for j. j. go out and have that third preseason season game and you see kinda. The skill set that we looked at <hes> tremendous hands n._f._l. Body knows how to play big and again what what a great opportunity for him to learn from one of the best big body receivers in the national football league now sean so you know we're excited but <hes> you know preseason is one thing now the lights come come on in and those guys will have an opportunity to prove it to the course of the regular season. You only kept the four tackles <unk> second you only question the limit on the i like that you're keeping track <hes> <unk> legitimate n._f._l. Player in trayvon <hes> go into games with four defensive tackles. It's not active <unk> sort of vote of confidence that you think council be good to go wild yes. I think that that would be fair trying to think of something something funnier but i didn't have anything <hes> you know. I think that <hes> when you you talk about trayvon <hes> you're right trayvon's a an n._f._l. N._f._l. caliber player career and that was a hard cut and you know again. I think that when you do this you try to to build a ninety man roster and you try to build ninety man roster. That's really competitive. Given that has ninety guys again opportune to play in the national football league it all sounds good until you get to this point and then you have to actually cut guys who have a chance of getting claimed and losing them and then you don't feel so good but <hes> you know i think we were just trying to look at the skill sets that we had a defensive end defensive tackle and try to mix and match them and have a nice complimentary skill set in so you know assan and <hes> trayvon are two different players you know they they just they're both good players but they <hes> they have different skill sets and our other defense tackles have different skill sets and we have some defensive ends who can reduce inside if we need that and we went a little heavy at defensive pensive end but these are not easy decisions and now i think we struggled with a lotta these because of the type of players people that we had to thank you.

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At the Podium #12: The Doug Pederson Suggestion Box

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At the Podium #12: The Doug Pederson Suggestion Box

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Welcome into at the podium episode twelve brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation end leading green nation. I on your host, Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL today as usual, we have a triple decker for you. Three press conferences starting with the head coach Doug Peterson directly after the twenty five to twenty two comeback win over the New York. Giants followed by the Carson Wentz press conference act the game and Doug again from today. Monday today Doug was very complimentary of the offensive unit in helping getting the running game into a rhythm. While also praising Josh atoms for making the most of his opportunities which led him to receive twenty two carries against the giants including a game tying drive where he received five straight carries that included that touch down two point conversion he also talked about the input he received from players during the game. And I posted a clip on Twitter from in the middle of those apprehension five runs from Adams where you can see Brandon Brooks signalling to the sideline to keep it going. Keep going after him with the run game. Or at least. That's what it looked like to me. So tons of good insight on this one later on. We'll have the usual Jim Schwartz and Mike grow press conferences, and then we will resume our regularly scheduled week now that we are out of holiday week. So important games ahead including this next one against the Washington Redskins on Monday night football. So keep it here on bleeding green nation, keep leaving those five star reviews, and let's get these press conferences right now. Did you see? No. Gosh. I mean at that point. I was I was gonna win the game. And a lot of confidence in the play. Call confidence in our guys. It was. A man's on. They played zone on the play and Nellie popped right over the ball. So it was well executed by us and. Kept kept the same. Call even even through the timeout. And five minutes that the ideal in the drive started. Toward. We'd love to finish with points. And you know, obviously, no time on the clock is kind of the thought process there. I thought on the sideline Greek communication players. Offensively execute offense line. Great job today. And just making making plays in that drive to get to get us down to that. Them completion to Nellie looks like that the mashed play guys spent so much what do you like about that concept in such a big? You know, we love it. When teams play man. The giants ran today. Hit for third down conversion play to man's own play. It's something that's been our offense for you know, since I've been here. And guys know exactly what to do as well executed in. Great job by Carson hanging in there in the pocket in delivering at all. Confidence. Big win. Boosts. It boosts the com- guys are excited. I mean there, you know, it's been a couple of weeks since we've we felt this this type of this type of emotion. So they're they're they're jazzed. I mean, it's a. It's a great win yesterday. Obviously a hot really good opponent that that has real dangerous on offense. So far defense to hang in there in the second half. And do the things I did get them off the field than offensively. You know, get ourselves in a position to win the game. It's just a great boost for the entire. Klay makers to make plays Malcolm Jenkins made a big play. It seemed to start something at that point. What did you see on that play of big players that for your team from that guy defensively going? Yeah. You know, Malcolm's a great leader. And you know, one of the things that I've talked to are sort of our our leaders on the football team in just challenge down. Just got find a way to make plays and in in big situations. I think you saw it from time to time today. And that was one of really sparked I think the defense going into the second half. And then then obviously the offense. But, but you know, he he made that big play out Sean made a big play at the end of the game to extend drive Josh Adams, you know, he's a young player. Eat. He did some nice things are veteran players really stepped up today. And the delight was able to put pressure on, you know, ally. Like it's sacks. There are offensive line. Veteran group really did a nice job. So playmakers did a nice job today. I just think that sometimes you get into the game. The offensive line is really. They've been fairly they've played. Well, I mean really the entire season. That's been more consistent. Bright spots on offense. I just knew going into this game that that you know, we're going to have to kind of control the ball a little bit. It just wanted to help out some those young guys on defense, quite frankly. And and our guys really rose to the occasion they wanted the ball the second half. They were they were coming to me and keep on keep Rana coupon. They wanted on their backs. And so they did a really nice job. And. It was able to and that helps your quarterback to being able to throw the ball downfield. When when we could feel Johnson. Mindset. I told him that. I was I proud of the guys probably him for what he's gonna battle through. And just just said, hey out how good is that feel you know, and he was excited. He played played a great game today. And you know, I think the sideline was was was jazzed after that kick. And maybe that's the spark Nate. Young guys on the retard about really improved the second half after giving up time yards. I what do you think the difference was just that momentum shift? Part of it. I think our defensive line really rose to the occasion second half got pressure on a quarterback. Forced a couple of quick throws quicker. Throws. And you know, just a lot of credit. I mean, they hunt off they battled in and you know, nothing. Nothing easy. Nothing's pretty you just have to fight and scratch and get the job done. And they they did that today and proud of those guys. Win win after outing professional fourth quarter comeback. What does that do for him in the big picture as far as his development is confidence and team? I think it in his. It doesn't change the way the guy's view of he's he's still wanted leaders football team in and leaves the offense, obviously. But I think for him now to have have been through this to to to to be down. I think nineteen to rebound nineteen three it out and to come back entire game to stay patient and really allow things to unfold for him. I think as tremendous step forward and and proud of him in the way he handled a lot of the situation today. How we managed the run game made some big throws forest again took it took a couple of hits. But you know, that's that's that's playing quarterback in the NFL. And that's a that's a great step forward for him and really proud of him and his performance, and and he'll just get get better. And better each time out. It showed a toughness that all that that they weren't gonna. They're gonna fight for sixty minutes. And that was the message at halftime, thirty minutes left to go. You know, just they're just going to hang tough. I mean. Guys. Great communication in the secondary. You know, the D line. I think really really did a nice job with the run game in the second half. And forcing them to put the ball in the air, salmon and. Just a great overall great team team effort on defense. You know leaders questioning kinda count ability and effort going into this game. Did you have a sense of how the team was going to respond to kind of waiting to see how plan we had a great meeting last night at the hotel guys were guys are energized. They're in really spilled over to the to the dressing room, you know, this morning when players got here you kind of feel the excitement they excited about playing this game and getting out on the field. And so there was really, you know, guys were saying doing the right things. And and and then to come away with the victory is just makes it makes it better. In the locker room today from the second five private. Come on. Now. I mean, it's just listen. We we get together and spent about five minutes, or so, you know, at the hotel after meetings in. I basically just wanted them to understand that you know, they got to continue to trust the process got to continue to believe in. And quite frankly, you know, you can't wait for something to happen. And then believe it, you know, you have to believe at first and that that happens, and that's kind of the message last night. And I didn't talk about. I didn't talk about, you know, hey, this is a this is a must win. This is a the start of our playoffs. I didn't get any of that kind of stuff. I just wanted to make sure that they understood that we continue to trust the process one play time play together, gray communication, you know, we can get this thing. We can get this thing. Flipped. And and they did that. Just reiterated the same the same point, quite frankly. A lot of excited faces in there guys are you know, just how how resilient they are how they stuck together. Proud of all three phases because everybody everybody had a hand in this in this winter. Gone Goldman, obviously he made a great fifty fifty catch field. Also drom little punk return. Thinking crossing a little better trodden get bomb. Now when we get big. Began for us, obviously in terms of visual standings, all that fun stuff. But really mentally to show their zillions. I what you did to get down early. The way we did. And then battled back and just kind of build a lot of confidence for early all three phases. Game to come from behind and get it done today. I think that'll speak volumes about our confidence. Able to get done. Layton games earlier this year, you got to win now with less than four minutes to go. What was the difference is actually, you know, I think in all his other past games just came down to a player to hear their next today. We got it done. You know, it didn't take anything, you know, extra from us. We just had just dial it in and execute and got it done. Also, what was that light at skiing? Just progression rate, and he was the next progression. And they went on coverage. It kinda just parted down the middle. And he came up with arguably his catch the day. Is getting that. I. You know, I thought we came out and we actually were moving the ball. Okay. And then we had the penalty I drive and then the second dry we had the penalty to in both those dissects Kyushu better. You know, we've had made made some mistakes early in that in that area. And we knew what we were capable of new. We could moved the ball. We started slowing better that. Last drives that you guys vows rentable really huge for us. I mean, we always come into every wanting to be balanced, and I think the whole line place best when we are. You know, I think it gives out guys confidence and they're coming off the ball firing. And then in the passing game kinda lightens the pass rush little bit to the line loves, and we mix it up like that movements. Naked all those things that we did a really good job of that today. Twenty carries. A lot of yards of was big for us. I mean, Josh did a great job. He's done a great job. Every and everything we've asked him to do this year today. He got a little extra workload. And he did a great job and took it and ran with it. And you know at the same time the line, though, ended a great job we could lean on them. And they made some nice holes. Josh venison runs. Really? Well, and we got it done this down to. Mitch concept such things Bod. What do you like about that? It's good against all coverages, you know, as a call coverage beater and just pure progression play. And it's also one we've got a lot of rep set. You know, we've rented it all off season in some like that. So you just kind of keep it simple in situations. And we executed. Players dumb keeping things simple. And doing the things that you do. Well, was important this week was fair to say that play example of. Yeah. I think that's fair. I mean, you know, sometimes when you're in a slump, especially -fensive Lee, you want to try and scheme up things too much trying to be too perfect and sometimes guys play slower and this and that and I thought we did a good job speeco of trying to keep it simple. Just leading us play ball and doing things that we've done really all off season thought that helped us time today game help you as quarterback when you're running all fucking running running games. Best friend quarterback one hundred percent. Sure today. You know, we lean on them that big drive to to put us up late in the fourth. The first time. I mean that that was diving the I think we just had a screen other than that. It was all and often, you know, that was huge to just lean on those guys in a great job Nelson. Since the Dow's down had been targeted was zave out him. Then what is number was down is ready to go? He's always ready to go, you know, and we love now we love what he brings to the table. You know, I didn't realize you hadn't specifically gotten a target to lighten it today. And it's just the way it's been playing out. But there was he made, you know, like I said arguments based by the day, go say the need. The need. Like this week leading up to the game in the locker met words, but was large afterwards. Great now felt like it been a while since you had that feeling again and guys like I said at the beginning of this. You know, I think that's huge confidence huge confidence that notches win. But win win in the way, we did rallying back in. You know, I thought as defense I settled in you know, tremendously played amazing second half gave us a chance to win the way we did. And I think just Bill our confidence going forward the sack glow or your leg. Keep came up. Limping what happened in good? We're good. I mean guy ran into my leg and got spooked me a little bit. But you know, we're good seem like your team to three. Anyone you know, kind of pointing fingers or questioning or anything like that. You know, I thought everyone just kind of believed, and you know, offense right back out there and put a good drive together. And so I thought that was huge for us going second half and guys stay together. Not as the biggest thing we always talk about family around here. Guys, just hung together and believed in other got it done. Is there satisfying? You talked about the win then than winning than a game winning drive before comeback right now. I'm just gonna win. You know, obviously doing it from behind you never wanna be down. But coming back the way we did again. Just it's huge for our confidence offensively defensively the way they kinda, you know, stiffened up at then. And yeah, it was his big four. Good feeling. Saturday night at the meeting. His message on. I mean his messages, you know, I think more than anything was just to keep it simple. Keep a simple do what we do best and play our game. And you know, again, we started off sluggish and that's gotta fix. But after that, I thought everyone did that just kept us simple. Dial on their Simon's an executed well, and that's what led to the victory. Hansard touchdown. The way we answered in the first half offense. I thought was big for us to just come in. And I think in the first half. So just the way we answered the first half just to to go into the locker room was a little momentum. And then mouth from the interception, which was kept them off the off the board there. I'm just kinda use them Mendham going the second half that was huge. This week. Was it a view though to rebound from us? You know, I think it's important for for everybody to just come out and rebound and put last week behind us. I think we did that today. Good to see quarterbacks times judge winter losses. And also by weight game drives missing afford into one for you personally. Anytime we can get a victory in come from behind fashion. It's these volumes about the team in the resiliency of the guys on both sides of the ball. And I know personally as big to to get it done today for me ever feels the same as the giants. Paycheck. Ejected. Dallas kinda messed up on a blitz. Went him sack on you. And then you came back to catch big as some of these reviews are taking the next play reading before that. That's something that we talk about all the time is making the state just press for first of all the protection that was tough. I was really tough away. They ran that game. I'm not sure anyone could pass off. They had the perfect play call on against that. But just Dallas in really on defense. A lot of the guys whether they're rookies young guys inexperienced guys just stepping up in just building confidence throughout this season throughout this game event. That's big for us going forward, especially with all injury shakeup, and all the things that are super unfortunate that we're dealing with big for. To run on the atoms. TD that was brought back. He's that you did coach coach call down. Good afternoon. Patricia yellow guy for slouching. He did or nice. Not that sometimes. What you have to do to sustain build on what your team did yesterday can use that blueprint going forward. I think he can you know, anytime we stay balanced. I think is offense good things happen. And you're able to score points and sort of control the ball. And I think you look around the league the the common theme of teams that have that balance or are winning game. So yeah, I think that's a form that you can carry move forward. What get to that point? Was course health or just don't about Josh. No. I just think sometimes it it takes time run game. Just like the passing game. There's there's timing rhythm. There's all things that gotta stay in sync. And and you know, it just it just comes continued to continue to work in, you know. You just you just trust you trust your players trust your by accident and receivers are big part of that. And you just keep working at about. Well, I think it's something that. Has always been there. We we've seen glimpses that this season. You know, when when we rushed the ball for close to thirty times a game. That's has been been a good recipe. I think if you go back and look at the winds, I think we've been pretty successful doing that. So. The games lopsided, obviously, two different story because he had rethink your your your plan just a little bit. But great job by the guys up front starts with them. You know, a tight ends are involve receivers involve as mentioned in. And then of course, you quarterback your quarterback getting us in and out of runs. Good too, bad bad. Good. And and just, you know, making all that work. Josh. Early go to just take longer because the house. Yeah. Because remember he started on practice squad to start the season, and so the niche roles Jay Corean in window. So. Kind of knew what we had coming out of training camp. You know? But you still don't know until players play. And and then you know to his credit with taking advantage of some of the injuries. He is just kind of slowly slowly worked himself into this position. Listen, it's not to discount or discredit Corean though. Because I do a lot of great things as well. It's just the Josh now is kinda kinda taking lead in we continue to grow in in try to try to increase. You know, his his touches each week. Trusted. Was that? That does. Well, you try to control scrimmage every week. I mean, it definitely does start a front align. Indie line. That's where we game. Probably every coach pro says the same thing, you know, each week in just felt going into the game that that we had to have we had to have that kind of production. From those two groups quite frankly, we had to put pressure on a quarterback in. We also had to stop their run game which second half did a better job doing that. Then offense, really just. Continuing to, you know, put a lot on the offense line, and let them let them kind of control the line of scrimmage, and they did it. They did a really good job that throughout the entire game. Listened to your players on the ball. Jim listen to some of his guys who wanted to simplify things. Let your players employs kind of incorporate what they want. I think is important from the standpoint of these guys are playing these guys are out on the field. They're saying, you know, real speed just like we are. But at the same time, if they see something we always asking for feedback dialogue and communication that makes what we do special in. In you know, as coaches, we take it in. Yeah. We listened to and we can make adjustments during the game. You know, even even when it doesn't come out publicly. There's always had conversation after a series or two or three there's always at dialogue on the sideline. And and so it's it's just so happens that it was kind of evident yesterday that that was the case. Vine the secondary after a long cycle, Mark. I'm curious what those conversations between the country we need to simplify. Well, I can speak for the offense. Because you know, I I hear it from the offensive side. And listen, I I'm getting the the Malcolm second third hand. So I don't have I can't really necessarily speak on that. But I can speak on the offense because. You know before an image like when the defense is on the field and like yesterday, I was I was a little more mobile going to our quarterback talking to Carson count seen what he liked when he was comfortable with would move into the next series. And then and then visiting with the offensive line, just, you know, their it's not sometimes record actor different sometimes quarterbacks about plays schemes, and you know, passing game all that with the line is number hardly about place as much as it is a mentality. Right. We're we're kinda we're kinda taking over kind of dominating were kind of got a little momentum. And so just continue to trust us. And and really that was the theme yesterday with both. I would speak from outcome. I guess into. Hey, listen trust us. Let's let's get back to some of the basic some of the things we do. We do have some young guys on defenseless help them out. And it worked in the second race. It's a kind of a sense of ownership plan the guys. Yeah. Because we we incur. I encourage the guys to to speak up, and they see something say something. And again, you know, as coaches, we definitely have the final say, but at the same time. I think it I think it builds a healthy chemistry with your team. Mobile mobile in terms of talking arsons just made roaming around on the sideline mobile. Probably touch more than I normally would just a TV time out or something like that between a series b. Be just being able to walk into talk. Carson will come to me between the series as well. So I was just a way for me to go back and talk to the last two games. Goldens been targeted sixteen times, which is much as outside Nelson Jordan combined is that ideal. Is that still something you guys just gotta try to figure out? Well, we're trying to get everybody the ball. There's only one football. You know, you think about the four five receiver positions that we have two tight ends. Yeah. I mean, all part of the game plan in, you know, sometimes you you don't know where the ball's going, you know, put a certain personnel group out there, but we have a certain progression to. I mean, I've talked about game planning for Sean game planning for urge and things like that. And a lotta times it's just kind of the way the ball goes. You know, it goes to that person. So. It helped us win a game. And you know, we'll start over this weekend. Are set career highs for catches receiving yards. What is he done this year? I mean, Ozzy was good. I what is it about this? You tickets? Slow. I think it's a combination of things one. Combination of how how he's worked in the offseason how he's prepared himself for the season. He's a year older. You're wiser is understanding defense leverage. How teams are trying to either take him away or defend him? I think that's part of it. The other thing is the emergence of and really the the influx of talent on offense. I mean, you think about how Sean in you know, in the things he's done in Dallas being at that position. It's really kinda freed up Zac to for us to move around a little bit and put them into some receiver type positions and be successful there. So I think it's a combination stuff, but definitely credit to to him and how he works how he prepares in. And I think just being a year older has really helped. Well, obviously, you know. Probably at the end of the season. You can look back and say what a great, you know, what a great gracie's he had individually, but collectively we're still trying to win a football game. And he's a big part of that, you know, whether it be in the red zone around the field. So. He is on pace having a good season. But I I would. I could speak for win the football game. Whether he gets nine catches are. No catches. You know bottom line is he wants to win a game. Yesterday of any kind of ram. He's been better getting yards catching break tattle this year. He has the past few diverse while. Yeah, I think I think that's part of what's making. And you know, where we were in on the field in needed that point needed to get the end zone. It was a great first of all a great great catch stepping back through the linebacker through defender to be able to catch the ball break, the attack Guineans on those are those are all things. Back to kinda taken that to a little bit. You know, another level for him this year. Plus closer minus the giants. Was it early in the game? Right after the touchdown came back. Yes. Whole talk about this. No, I think it was early again again four th and five midfield. Try again. You know, flip feel back them up too early. And. Decision. Losses. Play earn decision. Was there one from yesterday one that that you would most have? Not yesterday was. Yesterday for the most part was pretty good. There's some things we gotta clean up detail wise, but I felt I felt comfortable coming into the game in coming out of the game. Yeah. Nothing much. I'd have to really think about it. But no watching. That this week all the guys that were that missed last week are doing really, well, you know, we don't practice Thursday. So we got a couple of days here. You know, you talk about Jalen, I think he's you know, he's doing well. He's still day-to-day Sydney's day of onto day-to-day. So, you know, these guys in Jordan, Jordan Hicks is you know, probably a little longer than that. But we'll see we'll see come come Wednesday Thursday when we get the guys back in your work on si. Nelson said that the. Plays was was involved. I'd have to check Nelson, quite frankly. I don't remember that. He's. Grow. Maybe I could have been I mean. Like more involved two minute offenses. Yeah. Yeah. Solemn of the first quarter that run called back but getting closer to. I mean, if you negate those plays, you know, we we moved the ball we score. So quite frankly, you know, we got eliminate those negative plays. It puts us in. You know, third fifteen when its third five we get the passer ferrets holding call on the second play of the game. You know, those are things just stop guys. At the end of the radio broadcast vase, leaving the field gave kind of owed to the fans. How was it to get a win own yesterday in that losing streak? Well, we haven't fared too. Well, obviously at home. And and I tell you are fans show up every single week at the link, and it was a great crowd yesterday. They were loud. And so, you know. You know, it it truly affects our opponent. And so from that standpoint credit to those people that come out in support through the good and the bad, and it was a great crowd yesterday. So felt like it was a good gesture to applaud them for for their performance to. Zac earns. Yeah. Guess. To win the game. Yeah. His targets kinda decreased. Yeah. I try to another one. I try to get going early. Gosh. I mean, you look at the first play the game was peo-. I went to went back, but it was really Zach or alshon so targeted him on the I I play the second play the game, which I went off script. I went tempo had the run played for the long long. Touchdown. The second play the game. If we huddled. It was going to be a shot played to our, Sean. So I had a dial up early in the game to try to get him involved in a game. We're on we were able to get him get him. Some touches he made a big big catch and run there in the in the fourth quarter to to set up a nice nice scoring drive. So. Yeah. Each week try to keep him keep coming keeping. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from Espy nation, and I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart it's same smart as the show about people doing things that for some reason or another same smart at the time. 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The Kist & Solak Show #108: The Sort Of Preseason Primer

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The Kist & Solak Show #108: The Sort Of Preseason Primer

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm john stolnis the host of the phillies pod hidden season one of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation look the baseball season is one hundred in sixty two games long and there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness you could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcast including the award winning the dirty inning with just inclu and trevor strunk and continued success with justin endless rozier subscribe on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app <music> kissed you copy benjamin solon. It's the kissed in seoul action presented by espy nation and bleeding great nation. You are flying high on the kissed and so lacked showed this is episode one hundred and eight brought to you by the full espy be nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host. Michael kissed follow me on twitter at michael kissed n._f._l. That's k. i s. t. as always joined by the best dog co host in the game mr nine year streak without a bad day. He is benjamin so lack. Hello follow his work at the draft network dot com follow him on twitter at benjamin select. That's s. o. L. k. hey dan how you doing brother. It's not as fun when you when you leave a space for me to do it. It's more fun. I interrupt you. I was gonna ruining my good time. I'm going to edit it. It's going to be real the old license type for your bed if that makes you feel again sweet l._a. Every day is a good day to be alive a hate summer with a burning fiery passion thousand songs so ready for it to be the over hate being sweaty. This is gross preseason. Football was today wednesday tomorrow yeah but also it's preseason football so i don't wanna be excited about got it because it just feels gross. I mean your your draft guide. How do you not love preseason football. This is when what rights this is. The thing is like i like it because i get to you. See all the bad players who i liked last year play football but then also it's awful because i get like legitimately invested like when brett ribbon who i liked picked up a game winning touchdown to john winfrey who i also liked when the broncos beat the out the helping name like i reacted like that was important to me and it was and this is a significant difficult problem because this point is indicates a pathology. I agree. I agree. I was very excited about rippin mian mian me and scofield were talking about it and we were like look at our boy. We are right. The best thing was objectively not very good ball then i know what it as the preseason right exactly and we're gonna be talking about some eagles preseason here. We really don't have a main topic but i did go to to celebrate the start of the football season. I did go out to the bar last night anti in taiwan on and had a really good time is thailand on is that it was an idiom for gay hammered yeah exactly exactly and i told you about some of my struggles this morning before recording tasty latte lasts that him at the bar and these three guys walk in with this girl and i guess they took issue with one of my buddies my my russian buddy alex. I guess was staring buddy yeah. Of course he's awesome. He's also i he lived in before. I let them know you said that so. I guess i alex was was looking at this girl little hard when she walked in they noticed it they kinda took issue to it. Later on that kind of <hes> spilled over to the dart boards where alex was playing with my scottish odyssey s._a._s. buddy. I say to him yet. No you don't want to say anything to him but the problem is the other guys that know that they just all this smallest scottish guy and and i guess it got heated and one of the guys punches the scottish s._a._s. guy in the face just square in the mug and the scottish guy eats beats it goes. Are you done yet because i'm with some ladies and points at his watch and was dead serious like i could kill you. I'm giving you the chance to like not not do anything right now and just kind of let this. Let's blow over. The guy keeps talking. Smack in the guy goes. No no no. I'm serious. Are we going to fight or not because i could do either but i would rather spend time with schedule. It feel like i have an itinerary this evening. At that point i was sitting down talking with six six three hundred fifty pound former de to lyman my friends big aac dude like with a big crew and he walks over and they get it. It finally blows over they leave. I think alex ended up talking with the girl the for the rest of the night which is funny because i guess he stole their girl right because they didn't want to fight the scottish so that was my night last night. Just wanted to get that quick story because i was one of the most back things that i've seen just just to get. I feel like yeah. I feel like you have a very eclectic group of friends. That would be fun to hang out with you know how much i enjoy because before you know how much i just objectively enjoy hanging <music> out with like very drunk people in bars being totally sober. I find it very entertaining as you've done in mobile for the senior barack hussein so i would be good time next time down florida absolutely absolutely so. Let's get to some football talking like i said before. We really don't have a main topic for the show. I just wanted to talk through some things maybe recalibrate or reintroduced some of the takes that we've formulated throughout throughout the off season and of course there's a preseason game to be played tomorrow which is fun kind of eagles titans at the link game. One doug says that he's he's not sure if once and the other starters will play. I don't think many of them will including when i was looking back on last year's first preseason game to kind of gauge what <unk> happened there and maybe use it as a guide zillion. Now isn't the jets who was that that was the steelers steelers. He dropped with my first advertisement in my first. I advertisers the practice. That was my first time like atta game in the press box. Serving financial health ruling was it to see landry. Jones and joshua dobbs south there sling in the rock obviously objectively thrilling. What was the most fun part of that game. I don't know if you remember this on through a tweet up. We're at highlighted a few names on the eagles in the steelers rauschenberg <unk> players really watching watching tonight and he will really try to figure out what the common thread with routine on i just guys funny names right and the twitter is there should be a stupid tweet that as eighty it got like significant significant run like people were sharing asking questions and debating about things in the mentions and i was just like shared to be an idiot for fun but you ask you what you redone of getting these preseason joke soft yeah so in that game so it was for the steelers that was joshua dobbs landry jones for the eagles it was has nate sud fell to an joe callahan slung around saalfeld went ten fourteen hundred forty yards two touchdowns interceptions up and down game for him. He would have better performances. The preseason callahan was a cool eight for eighteen very exciting for ninety. One yards leading rushers cory climent josh adams they both had thirty yards over five yards per carry who cares doc adams the future twenty eighteen rushing yards leader the philadelphia eagles. I think that's when the train started because he he pat over five yards per carry something like that <hes> the interesting part for for me was shelton gibson as lee receiver and i kind of touched on this with bill g. under the framework of a training camp in kind of like tempering your expectations as far as like this is a great camp he will be good. That's not always the case but givi had a good camp and was flashing more consistency. He comes on this game scores. A touchdown connects on a deep pass and for a guy who's trump card in college was the deep threat stuff that was good to see ultimately it didn't translate but what did translate godart for receptions sixty six yards and touchdown. He's a beast yeah. Now i remember this now i was. I was fully ready with every take in a chamber. I was ready to hand it. They had a great camp. He showed it off from some preseason from game wine and that's like confirmation bias one. Oh one right there with him. He's sort of the regular season so that kind of translated to other names on this receiving list are interesting to me any before i kind of get your take on this but bryce tracks. He caught three for thirty nine. I had a brief interaction with traits. I don't know if you saw this on twitter not too long ago. Maybe about about a year ago. He's hot on twitter. He's he's constantly tuning side. Yeah i mean he kind of he kind of took the summer off a little bit which is like he's one of those dudes that how do i phrase. This never played meaningful snaps in the n._f._l. But takes issue with the amount of writers that didn't play at a high level before becoming writers including women which is fun and i asked him if like hey are you going to like actually share your knowledge basic asking him. Are you gonna complain about it or are you going to do something about it because this is annoying because i didn't play at a high level. I talk about it. I'm a writer what's what's the problem here and like. He said he was gonna start a podcast and like it's a year later. I don't see a podcast so good for you to be part of the solution. You're acr- receptions real teaching tape for guys like us anyway. The other name that i was going to mention from the receivers was dietrich carter man who i love like those people that you kind of fall in love with her story in in training camp and then it into the preseason and they show a little bit and i was a big deal andre carter fan was really aware to make this roster he sold. He's still kick kick around man houston now. I think he's still in houston. I haven't really seen what he's been doing a camper or anything like that but like the point is like i was it his dying mother that that he promised that he was going to make it into the n._f._l. Was something like that right now. Listen i remember besides ago was on his brother <unk> members that he started that one game per for the eagles mike we two or three whatever was the boss of the titans and people were over the moon for unlike daily cans of not sticking team but you'd like to see i. It gets very fun to root for those small guys have one of them being able to come up and like started game for your team. That's fun part of pan right there. Do you have anybody like a leica cady. Andre carter that you think has the potential to make you fall in love like is this the preseason were ben really goes head over heels for like greg ward right right now on the team. It's hard because the team showed even so good like i'd love to tell you greg ward but i know who five of the eagles rosser wide receivers again they already so they sell little space to to warrant that player. Sticking <unk> like people are really big on carlton community right. Those are our pronounce it d._c. I'm not sure he's a six six guy that <hes> that bill has been talking about the coach been talking up due to agassi al-kadassi as the rutgers kid who came out in twenty eighteen who is just super long super tall and records in quarterback hit broadside of the the barn but the nude is the broad side of the buys giant target yeah like he said he's got he saw practice squad eligibility and so the chance you know we're we're still falling him over the course of next couple of years but it's jeffrey it's to sean jackson nelson i awards j._j. Single whiteside in that it's very likely still mac islands even though this whole injury thing with matt collins is just movies. <music> are out of this world now so it's hard to get stoked about the you know the the the young players <unk> this team is so set in it so deep ed so many different spots and so really like it'll probably end up being the preseason. Josh swept from me. He'll beat really bad. Second-string tackles on. I will vary excited added about even though it just confirms. Prior doesn't tell me anything. I didn't already know about him. <hes> so that's the only really vision like against superstar poor but then also like they're still like the players who you know are going to be around to reveal soula silica us remember my brand. You know what i mean like. Dallas still huge member my brand so when those guys make plays in the preseason because they're gonna have to play. They're not a bona fide starters. I'm going to be excited about that as well so it's easy to get excited about the preseason when you know rosters we know the eagles yeah. Joe osman was probably gonna. It'd be one of those guys to you mentioned. Josh sweat joe osborn. I don't think we've updated the listeners on this f you've been living under a rock. You might know that osman tore his a._c._l. During the sunday practice which was the one to open to the fans all the teammates you know coming over and and wishing him well at all. That's often for what we heard. He was having a great camp. He was being you know he's really technically sour rusher who is set to take some some snaps. He was making this team so it's really disappointing to see the eagles struggled with the with injuries like that already you already got komo garage hill dealing with a great three mc l. sprain which is bad in and that is kind of what led to a take the we saw this morning from our friend joe gilio who is just just on our recent megyn radio special joe yeah from the art of the take i i like joe. He gets a lotta gulf and the whole sports talk radio stigma and all that stuff he does easy takes. He takes a lot of crap because he's got takes and they're not always popular. I mean i don't like this take. I don't agree with the state but i'll say it anyway and maybe we can talk about it because a lot of people i mean we get this this question to ben like should the eagles trade for david clowney and what joe said was quote. How roseman should be on the phone. Everyday tried to trade for today uncloudy unquote so number. I kind of disagree with with the premise here i one hundred percent ensure that howie roseman has put in a call for georgia davis cloudy. They put in a call and we've heard this before on literally. Everyone doesn't matter if you're antonio brown odell beckham junior it does not matter. They put calls as in on everybody so i'm sure that they have explored this and i'm sure several g._m.'s have as well and what you do. Is you pull up to the house. You see the price tag the house and you go. That's a beautiful house as way too expensive especially when you're talking about you know clown. He's gonna want something long term. So what's your take on the client things. I just don't think it's possible it would be fun but i don't think it's possible you got league jackson. Fletcher cox derek brandon graham in the bill. You pay clowney over twenty million per year to take snaps away from one of them. At least one client is also commercial do so potentially two. It's a hard sell your you gotta. Tell incumbents guys. How's he drafted high guys who extended guys that you signed this year. You know it's a decent size deals in lake jackson. You've gotta stop and tell these players. Hey you know we we set up abyss team for you guys to play. We sold you on this plane time everything but crowns available now so we're gonna pay twenty million more for somebody. Who's not you to play football. The hard sell enough <unk> from team management locker room perspective. It's very difficult now. Clown is also tremendous talent. Every team mentally wants a crowning. The the eagles are one of the few teams in the league doesn't need a county that badly a. and b. There's the potential that clowning would not want to make the team worse. It's too far but <unk> you introduce another talent like that onto the defensive line and one month before the the season actually starts. You're really putting your in-depth upheaval disrupting what's been and established ones and twos and that's a hard thing to do in august a you're not the only wanna do that if you really need a jolt of the system early think eagles do and you're doing that schematically too because you're gonna. I don't wanna use clowney in different ways like cloudy. Isn't your typical traditional type pass rusher. You do kinda wanna move him around and that's what houston does with them too. I mean he spent over one hundred snaps naps as a quote unquote linebacker in that system because they like to stand up and have them shoot gaps in. It's super annoying because he's just crazy quick preview on and we were just like you know. I don't even know how you scheming to handle this because you just don't know where he's gonna. He's gonna do so. He's a big pain. It would be fun for him to be on. The eagles is but i mean that's kind of feels like a madman type situation so that's not something that i see happening in the future ben you said you were writing or you have written an article for bleeding green green nation about the offense and how good you think it's going to be let's flip it back to the offensive side of the ball and <hes> talk about some of the depth that you mentioned about the the but preseason which is why is gonna be exciting for us because i do feel this team is deep and that does make it exciting j._j. Are sega. Whiteside is going to be fun to watch in the preseason playing chords. We're not gonna i make rosters is going to be just obnoxious not okay. It's going to be hilarious because he's going to be mawson on. All of them and i'm going to hype up everyone as if that cornerback was dion sanders. This is what we do in the preseason <unk> welcome to august. Where is this is. This is silly. Season is the most take him on the air now so yes i have. I've a feature coming coming up on bleeding urination which is just basically in investigating the question. How good exactly eagles offense fate had come announced. The also the best offense only the best receiving courtney lee of the best defense land league. Those are three things in the best animal league. That's kind of a lot to the money offense. We had you know kamsky who's covered the the team now for awhile tweet out and sadly viz eagles off hammarby <unk> their deep and talented offensive line haven't seen a lot of <unk> size and speed the receiving weapons <unk> the best running back to the since peterson was here wetzel tremendous offense sky's the limit like you know it's it's no secret among people who cover the team in our league that the offense is the potential. There is is out of this world so the real question. I wanted to rescue us. Just how good can this let like and so. There's a couple of ideas. I don't wanna share all of them. I want you to read the article but i i want to put it in perspective this way. Let's talk a little bit about cardinal 2017 carson wentz in the halfway. Police are saturday one. He's on pace for four thousand. Two hundred passing yards thirty eight passing touchdowns nine interceptions and four hundred running yards never been don historically. We forget twenty. Seventeen carson was not an m._v._p. Base he was on a this season has never existed in the history of the n._f._l. Pace and when you look at forty two four thousand two hundred thirty eight nine and four hundred over the course of sixteen games if we're saying that he's going to be healthy or sixteen games which is everything not outreach route even remotely on reach on this team. Let's not again through twenty four games halfway bowl. The two thousand seventeen season course five hundred <unk> forty completions n._f._l. Records for twenty four games. Nobody completed more passes. Garson also attempted top five number of passes but as we kinda talked on previous spot a couple weeks ago the the whole like managing his throwing arm isn't as much of an issue as it was when mike mechanically there were some issues that he had in terms of accuracy. Now you know let him let him chocolate london slang. Let's let's throw the pill around yard will bet the ceiling for carson which people forget because of what happened in two thousand seventeen. I don't think people would forget it. If nipples lost to the atlanta falcons right nicolas lawson happens we all remember carson's twenty seven season as the pre miracle to the miracle. The adventure game in the super bowl carson ceiling productive wise is just like i'm a little scared of scientists okay saying this it's hidden mahomes the rest of the league right maybe breeze but from a running game perspective now <hes> but statistically it's like right now. It's very much view. Homes is is the aberration in the rest of the leagues buying for second statistically if you look at carson's twenty seventeen compared to mahomes is two thousand eighteen. There's no reason to believe of course. It doesn't return to that form. The the league is mahomes when everybody else right in terms of statistical production of the quarterback position which is fascinating to think about because there's been a lot of coverage coverage of the eagles being a really good offense from a holistic perspective and there's a lot of personal coverage on the homes. I don't think it should be surprising when wentz in the homes or keeping pace jason each other throughout the season relatively. You know it's like like i said it's the two of them and then clear step down the quarterback free from a production standpoint surprise anybody i think it will surprise people yeah so that item in figuring out just how statistically strong carson one's gonna be. He's gonna be fascinating number. One the number two thing that i wanna talk about which is super interesting zakar records single season record for receptions for a tied at zackhras had one hundred fifty six targets which is also history to provide four hundred sixteen receptions six more jason win in two thousand twelve is the record. How likely is it that he is. The highest reception leader for this team gene the highest target receiver for this team over sixteen game season with carson wentz. I would argue yes. It's still likely but this circles back to the main point point. We've been hitting home in dallas which is just is if urges target one for this team which last year he set the record for receiving receptions and targets targets for tight end if he's targeted one key is i'm just so like i talk more about twelve but i'm just so worried douse cartoon get five pirates again. Arthur sections thirty arts go to bed and that's going to be right and so the most did you see what godard said godard said that he could start sheltie which my god dang dan hero listen to me my king absolute go the hack off. Yeah jorissen beat up de howard you know he's been good but it hasn't really panned out yeah. I'm the fourth best tight end league here for one year plate significance nassan six games brother. I'm i'm for what a hero erz. Kill kelsey got her. That's what he's saying and even even sure on kennel which is a legend when absolute hero kindle sets the season record for yet like any player ever not even got a positive. He's which is my absolute came on but go to answer this but the sap from from <hes> she'll kapadia forty three percent of the snaps last year. The eagles have at least two tight ends <unk> out on the field <hes>. They ran the ball in those two to three to worry us tight end sets. They ran the forty percent of the time <hes> which is second lowest in the league. Only the chiefs were lower right so are running twelve and thirteen more than anybody else and they're throwing out of twelve thirteen more than anybody else besides the cheese and i think they were the second best team at throwing the ball from twelve. I think the chiefs were better. They use the news twelve personnel for la place but both are very effective with the pass from twelve go ahead got is going to be successful. It's going to be in the as a tenant. It's going to be in this offense. There's no better offensively a tight end to and there's probably no more talented tied into good but there's just a cap. There's a ceiling on health. Productive out player can be unless like your primary target is gonna the arts and then what sean daughter johnson guitar more than two sean which another super interesting thing is right now. You'll get the look look at anything. How many yards per cash will john jackson get this year. Fourteen is that usually does that look right so this is the very thing fourteen flat would be his second lowest number word career jackson averages over his career seventeen yards cadmium crazy that is a while he does good eighteen eighteen point nine last year. He's at four seasons of eighteen yards per catch. Which is crazy glossies yeah right. It's too. He just two first downs a catch mm-hmm wild. It's great and so like jackson. The the best model for jackson's upcoming season in my opinion is two thousand ten or he had ninety five targets which is one of his lower numbers forty. Seven receptions is his second lowest number of receptions in this season. He actually played a significant number of games and had twenty two point five yards per catch. That's what is jesus going over. A grand on forty. Seven catches is wild. I s. wall row has a two thousand nine. Yes vick was on the team in dozen idols mcnabb's last year so yes. This was nick's first year starting. They backyard ball. You know what i mean. That's that's the tension over this on jackson here so anyway just figuring out the eagles targets is generally impossible. Yeah i look at every which way i can't do it. I give up but the the critical thing that i that i come back to is either dallas. Got is getting it on president. Historically num- number of snaps in targets like to the point where it's it's just a massive blip on a radar or he's going to disappoint statistically relative expectation. I play and say the same pacific as getting disciplined investigation fascinating thing there flirted final thing mile sanders mean do we. We talked about this. We did for a while now. He's not gonna start the season. The star is gonna ended the season starter in the middle catch a lot of flack for calling jordan howard pedestrian on the twitter dot com but i don't care just like last time talking about twelve minutes now miles sanders anders odds best best running back that that deputy since hat here potentially potentially died. I think he's got a higher ceiling. Obviously jiwa splitting time with awful lot when he was here but even if you if you combine a ji- and blunts numbers such a true running back one is going to do that but that's changing the same as comes in as a rookie just just instantly the most productive back. Let's play doug peterson era which like i get that wrong bat running. The ball isn't super valuable but you have to do it. Sometimes if the eagles have a back who can just like ajayi was ripping off with like four point five yards per carry whatever it was like if you go back regularly ripping off five plus yard carries just give up the r._p._o. Game is actually gonna count now. It's just gonna be like you know r._p._o. Adamo novick motto sanders hughes different after it's all very interesting but anyway snap moses. This is going up the thing that i think the main i'll say this but please don't read it. The the main conclusion that i reached is like it is auto reasonable to expect the eagles calls to be less than a top three offense which is just it was insane to say legs on reasonable to expect them to be in the bottom ninety percent of the league which you know out of ten from the bottom usually so bit by a view when you go through and you try to find a way to put them there. It's carson wentz injury or 'cause they can survive injury at running back and wide receiver tied off. It's a tapper off guard at sir yeah so it's ours was inferior bust. It might sound like a home thing to say. Every smart analyst is saying it <unk> as well. There's no reason for this team to not be a top three offense barring injury. There is zero reason they are loaded with a very good quarterback that is capable capable of putting up monster stats with an excellent head coach capable of putting together excellent game plans so that's very exciting the the one note that i had before we go to break your that wanted to added onto what you're saying there the whole dijon jackson thing that yards per catch so it's interesting because you look at carson wentz winces like bosco stats and you see like the sack great only went up by like one percent from two thousand seventeen to two thousand eighteen however when you look at like the under pressure stats he took sacks at a six percent higher clip win when under pressure from two thousand seventeen to two thousand eighteen so his sack avoidance wasn't what it was the year before with the brace off with the mobility doing the magic man thing that we all remember and then finding sean jackson down the field. I think we're gonna see more of that this year and that is incredibly really fun and and again i i. I'm very hesitant very scared of getting soundbite by just saying like oh. When's this especially the gas but what people forget ca-car some twenty seventy carson was not doing things. Twenty eighteen homes was period but the person in two thousand seventeen who was closest yup to mom's doing the twenty eight teams carson. It's carson yeah absolutely again like russell wilson. I mean that's really it. That's a shortlist and so in terms of escape ability. I men with wentz is strength has always been just weird. Froze on the move at weird angles yup out of context <unk> against his body. Ill advised decisions that apparently only can can make come to fruition though weakness was you know within the <hes> mechanics quirky in the pocket marrying footwork to rhythm timing north dakota state coming out whatever right that twenty sixteen that was the problem twenty seventeen significant improvements incredible and twenty eighteen we are as you pointed out. He was still still statistically a very strong player. It was all that it was all the weakness which have improved over the past couple of years now. We're getting to a twenty nineteen season where he's back act being able to do what he does super well but the improvements in that in the pocket play have stocks in two thousand seventeen two thousand eighteen again is why like okay like what's the ceiling for carson wentz. Forgotten lenses is everything. It's the roof. It's just like the i it's. There's very warranty fear about his health acknowledged. I believe we're just going to say okay guys. Sixteen games. What's tapping of course wants to be an m._v._p. Candidate arnold candidate top once reckoned believe that's what's gonna happen yeah. I'm totally with you on that thought and we got. We got to take a quick break. When we we come back. We're going to talk about preseason and things about preseason and maybe we'll have some takes about preseason. That's up next here on the kissed and solex so we'll be right back baseba- aw truly it is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week along with john stolnis liz rozier and dr trevor drunk as we discussed all the ways the phillies villis hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribed to the good fight light and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us and we are back here on the kiss and so like show episode went away brought to you by the fine folks at s._p. Nation bleeding great nation. I'm michael kissed here with benjamin zolak ben. Let's let's dial back. Check in on the preseason game upcoming here quick before we go let let's talk a little titans guys that you might be looking forward to guys that they drafted <hes> they had a kind of a weird draft because they did the whole redshirt thing with jeffrey sovereigns or it's going to be like a majority redshirt type thing for the titans. They also drafted out nate. Davis the guard out of out of charlotte who i like f._m. He'll be going from tackle to guard i think a._j. Brown the wide receiver out of out of mississippi that a lot of people like or missed that a lot of people liked is a little banked up. I'm not sure if he's explain. I i'd have to check on that. I haven't seen an injury report or anything like that but in terms of like who you're looking forward to watch on the titans like is there anyone that kind of sticks out out to you like you're three corey. Davis might not play or anything like that like who who you kind of looking out for the titans anybody stand out yes. I really liked the titans draft. I'm excited to see what amani hooker does the iowa defensive back this safety room bananas and so we gotta figure out how we get him on the field but i like him a fair bit 'cause they got cruickshank to last year. Yeah you know he likes them. I was a fan of their draft was the only draft last year where they never reached on a single. They pay their ultimate mind board at value better on every single selection. Walker walker is going to be a good test for dillard. We don't really talk about this but this is fascinating worth noting philly according to <unk> berman zebra who shot zak with <unk> upgrade did hug we might divide exclusively right. Mark mothers playing left tackle dude. That's going to be great for as far as like film that we can like breakdown and whatnot like that's going to be one of the major takeaways but here's the thing if i give timeout calling achieving cloudy. If i am a gym the other thirty one teams be in need of a tackle michael which is like twenty eight of them and the eagles are playing by guard. You better tackling right. He's just he's just objectively not as valuable to guard the other team as a tackle. Which is how trains work because when you have a player who's there would be the other teams eligible gives you stop for him. You know and this is conditional dillard being able to be tackled three which it's huge in the preseason so this is a big preseason lottery finally found on dillard being able to win a tackle three left apple survive in your one which dealers the first round taking make sense but you and i would both say that's not locked in. We both think dillard is a longer learning curve player than some other per tackles that you begged dillard's gonna come out of a washington state system it playing in the pac twelve both which will not resemble what he asked you again fails. There's a significant technical switch and also i don't think i think that the dillard's athletic skills scouts are better tool for the college team in the n._f._l. Game and he has to learn to be more physical into women in a phone booth a little bit more some. There's a chance to go out. There and dillard does not look pretty as the eagles. I rowntree nineteen. Pick introducing peter's. There's a good chance that happens in which case he by ty dillon office tackle for dining no problem. That's not an issue. That's really okay but let's say tackle three vital regard. I mean like the four games he played for brandon brooks in the regular season it would be nice but but if he's going to be able to fight for starting tackle for somebody else semi in early days three beckon it's done on so watching <unk> is going to be very interesting but andre walker walker the outside backer for georgia from georgia for the titans against dillard. I left tackle can be an interesting one and then. I don't know we're probably not you said we're not gonna jeffrey simmons. We know we are going to get the titans injured in the line. I'm like ninety. Five percent sure that they have <hes> who's that kid. We really liked from kansas city defense tackle. Oh were ninety u._c._l._a. Last year they don't have anybody super exciting on the interior to match up against vajpai but still on the <unk> new position will be interesting to watch yeah. Yeah hamilton was the kid's name most first name. Isn't that the play josten hamilton hamilton playing eighteen yeah yeah yeah remember him yeah. He's just can't say right now. Lake the flavor twenty seven was kind of fun so that that'll be interesting to see especially with vicodin. I think playing guard could revitalize his career and you could actually be pretty useful. They're kicked in violence vitalize his career. We never once wore of idolized and then left the vitalize state. Let's get to some oh. I guess we'll do some predictions. Who do you think who do you think is the leading rusher for the eagles game. Josh adams all boys the rolling. We gotta do that again. We gotta do that whole josh adams's. This is the future back thing again it's going to be why do we drop the court. Why do we already background to what we have. Josh added but i will say if you're asking me one thing they manage sanders cena cena struggling to stay healthy. Yeah you're asking me what running back mike rowe mentioned by name and he's excited to see on thursday. That's a good way to place bets that smart insider knowledge reps. Yeah i like that what about what about receiving do you think leads in receiving as it is a chair sega whiteside nightside with four touchdowns. That'd be amazing. I mean who saad fell away is seinfeld plan yo if they play cover if they played man covered one and it's j._j. On the outside southfield sut fellas going to chuck that thing up every single frigging time. We know that that's a thing as a seinfeld is not settled a read. The defensive sort foul ryan is a champion out there sort of makes sense for cigarettes night. Agassi would be cool to see him <unk> leading game that excited now. I'll give cigarettes. That'd be fun to watch her. Single website <unk> a really strong preseason opening again. That's one of my dues. Eagles has got a really good job. Drafting my dudes past few years except for <unk>. I just bosa lisa article on three players. After step barnett was part of that i don't care about his age is in year three. He's a first round pick. It is time to go derek. It is time to go prove it because because we have a decision to make on barnette. This has to be the year. We have to pick up his fifth year option after this year so we need need to know what kind of player he's going to be. He doesn't need to be a double digit. Sack guy brandon. Graham has shown that so i mean. I don't think he's going to be either. I don't know why were whispering everyone. Everyone can hear this but ben <hes> final prediction for the score and the winner. This is super important to take this very seriously. I know you've been researching this. What was it what's the prediction for the score. Do the line on this game. What's the line on this game. There's no way the action making lines presumably they do rights heightens eagles batting line pre season degenerate <unk> bet on any <unk>. This eagle should be heavily heavily favored yeah eagles by three and a half three and a half of those thirty seven. I'm taking the i'm taking the eagles i think cellphones going to go out there and slang the rock doc baby so i'm taking over even though the titans are going to score like i dunno three points this whole game so it's gonna eagles are so deep that they're going to have a good buys on theo novice. Same thing can be said for the diane's. I wanna be a coward. The i'll take the over and i'll take the eagles as don't take the over the preseason michael. I'm not putting any real money on this preseason. I'd have to be a crazy degenerate to do that. As i place my bet dude. I'm still so not used to seeing callan moore's the offense coordinator he literally he's twelve which is coming from me. 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"On July fourth two thousand nine former NFL quarterback Steve McNair in his mistress Jenny Kazimi were found dead in a Nashville conduct. The police included the Jennie had killed McNair in a murder suicide, but was at the whole truth. The genyk is aiming really kill Steve McNair. I said there's no way that Ginny would pull that off from Sports Illustrated fall of titan available now subscribe on apple podcasts or every get your shows. The Cowboys come back from the brink and NFC wide open. Plus how the bears trending up as they head into the stretch run. The charges are real and devastating launch for the Rams offense. And white Mike have been the last all for a couple of coaches on the hot seat. We've got all of that and much more from ten on the m Huby Monday morning NFL podcasts. Hello. And welcome to 'em. Few Monday morning NFL podcast. I am Gary gramling is Andy been oy. This was week. Ten sunday. We had some we had a lot about sets today. We had some games that weren't particularly close. But we had a lot of we had a lot of underdogs pull out victories, including this Sunday night game, Andy, which is why this whole strength of schedule thing that we talk about so much time of year doesn't really mean a whole lot y always so dismissive of it because he's NFL teams play other NFL teams. We'll see. Well, I will bring that up later in the show. And we'll we'll get to also thing again fascinated five minutes never ending debate. But we're starting with the start with Sunday night game. And that was the Cowboys the who were on the brink. And everyone was ready to write them off. And Jason Garrett was going to lose his job after that Monday night. Performance. The Cowboys bounce back and get a victory in this one twenty seven to twenty I guess let's start with what the Cowboys were able to do defensively in this game things. Open up a little bit in the second half of this one. But they were they were very good up front. And obviously, those linebackers are fine with the without Sean Lee, which has not been the case in past years. Well, they have a different guy replacing Sean, Lena, latent Vander Esch has stood out on film every single week that he's been in the NFL and he's played a little bit more every week. And he was already starting to take some snaps from Sean Lee. So it's been changing of the guard. And after the game Vander made comment about how Shanley's really gotten him ready. So it's a group effort. I completely believe that. But I would be surprised Vander is not coming off the field again. So whenever league gets back. We'll see what role. It's and right now. I'm sure. It's not even on the near the back of Dallas mind. Jalen Smith who you wrote off Gary and late in Vander esh are their linebackers. And right now there is good of a one two punch release young linebackers as anyone in football. They also I mean, the loss stay and by the way, I did not write off Jalen Smith. I thought he was a relative disappointment for the first portion of his career. And I stand by that because he was a relative disappointment for the first portion of career. He's been very good this year, the forty five million dollar man Andy that linebacking core. That's who used to replace Sean Lee. Now, they got leaving it blatant Vander in there about set of anti Hitchens. Yeah. No, you know, many times Anthony ice thing. This the other day watching chiefs film because I feel like I'm always typing Reggie Ragland notes in my to myself because he's the things he's good at very good things. He's bad. He's very bad at kind of stuff that shows up on film, though. That's what other teams are noticing too. I re-. Realized as I was doing that. I don't think I've typed Anthony Hitchens name more than four or five times. All season long Higgins is just a guy. That's why they let him walk in someone else overpay them. And then they drafted a first spot. They. Are. Okay. So you're okay. So that was you were being facetious. Oh, yeah. I'm not. I'm not saying Anthony Hitchens's better than Layton band rush. That's that's you were saying Jillette. Jalen Smith was no good. So I thought maybe your whole view of Dallas linebacking core is just slanted and wrong. No. They are. They are very good. I said my my apologies. Jalen Smith earlier this season when he was playing really well, and I'm not gonna do it. Again. We're we're gonna forget I said any of that stuff in past years, and we're going to focus on the present. Now, Andy though, I do want to make one more point about a Anthony Hitchens. I always get him and Reggie Ragland confused chiefs games because Hitchens used to wear fifty nine for the Cowboys. And now raglan where's fifty nine for the chiefs? That can I can never remember which of them were fifty nine and which were whereas a fifty three and she's games. Yeah. That's a good pie. Hate that. Kind of tries me. That's kind of drives me nuts on film. And that's what September's always liked for me as guys with. I complain about that back in September. So I hear you. I feel you on that one. You know, what was interesting in this game. Gary is at Dallas early on played some man coverage on first down Vander, Asia's a big part of that fact, the two plays that really stood out to me. There were times in this game that he matched up to irks, and I don't think got them very much. I don't think he hurts a great night as he's had a great season. I don't think he punished Vander as that Vander has been an up and down man-to-man defender, so far, and I think it's because he's just a Justice to the nuance of the NFL game. But his interception came on first down. And it was man coverage. But you don't see very often. Which is why I believe went did not account for him wince was looking away and just assume no one would be there 'cause Vander dropped to a different position than you wouldn't cover three. So Cowboys stuck with that man coverage and Josh Adams for the eagles had a nice twenty nine yard run shortly after that. And all they did was Adams ran outside to the right and Zach. Erz blocked down to the left and was guarded by Vanderschmitt demand. So Vander as would have been the primary run defender was running away from the point of attack. It's called an easy release instead of block in the guy, you just run the opposite direction the ball and the man defender falls them. And now, he's not tackling the running back. So it was interesting that Dallas that and then they also blitzed early in the first a lot in the first half. Jalen Smith, your guy. He was a big Blitzer for them. So a little bit of a departure for the Cowboys. This is stuff they do normally. But they did it on different downs and use what they did some of this on I on it wasn't all third down. And I think it kept the eagles a little bit off balance. Now as the game progressed, though, Dallas settled into more their normal stuff there cover three stuff, and they did pretty well with it. But you did see Philadelphia got a feel for them later in the game. So I wish one would have gone five quarters because both offenses figured out the other defense in the second half they really day which was which is weird because. Because I mean, you know, we were midway through the second quarter. And this one felt like he was going to be a thirteen twelve type of final of Cowboys offense. I mean, look they lost Zack Martin which would have been devastating than Martin came back on. It looks like it's series injury apparently was not terribly series. Even if he was not playing it when under percent he was back on the field. But they they got it going pretty well. And obviously with the eagles so banged up in the secondary. There was something of. In unusual situation for the Cowboys where they actually had an edge with their weapons against the against the cover guys for the other team. But I thought the Cowboys found a pretty good rhythm in this one. Oh, absolutely. We talked on Thursday about what will Dallas do with Philadelphia is weaken the secondary. But Dallas does not have the greatest receiving core. This is their best night. They've had all season. I think their wide receivers looked better than any other game. But we thought Dallas would run the ball. Even though teams don't run the ball very much Philadelphia Phillies came in ranked number two run defense, but it's strength on strength and Dallas at your strength your running team. So you don't get away from your strength. And the absolutely ran the ball Elliott ran it very well and their offense of line moved the line of scrimmage, more and more as the game progress. You know, it's always interesting to Gary have you notice this with Elliott, we talk I think he's the best runner in football. I don't think it's Todd Gurley or or I don't know who else is getting credit. The best promos. Everybody says girly now, I don't know who else is getting nodded on that. I think it's Elliott though, he always seems to run with the exact temple that the play demands. He can go fast. He can go slow. He can go fast and then slower slow and then fast, his running tempo. I think is the best in the NFL. That's a good point. No, I'll I'll I'll agree with you on that. They're both really good. There's a Melvin Gordon bandwagon now too. I think he's a he's a step behind those guys. But. Here's here's why brought that up. I didn't Gordon's very good man-to-man blocker runner, which is a different type runner. I think girlies a great zone runner. And I think Elliott because of that stop start ability can do all of the above. And that's why I put him ahead of those two guys. All right. Well, the the NFC east just more and more interesting. We're gonna talk about Washington later in the show, obviously, they had another truly bizarre victories. But they they're sitting there two games up on both of these teams. The Cowboys and eagles emerges kind of waiting for the eagles to kick it in and and take this division, but seven games to go. They gotta start getting some wins. They don't look like the same team as last year. And it's weird because Carson Wentz is playing just as well as he did a year ago. They're all lines not quite the same as it was a year. It's weird. Everything's about five percent different for Philadelphia. Take a little bit here a little bit there. And when you add it all. Up. You've got a much different team even with the quarterback plane. So well, no, I mean like we say all the time. There's not that much difference between eleven and five and five and eleven in this league. And. You know, the eagles just they're not quite clicking. This point, you know, problems on the back end. Downgrades kind of everywhere else. And and that's what you get. But. Let's let's go out to let's this NFC north battle here. The the bears. Collecting the win here. Beating the lions at home. I thought this was Mitchell Trubisky is best game the season by a by a fairly wide margin. I did too. I wrote about Bisky for the extra point. I know. I know you know, that because I've seen the edits or at least I've seen the headline year proposing that we do for that article. I I'm encouraged by Trubisky because I don't think they need him to light the world on fire. I don't think they need him to become a whole lot more than what he is. That is such a complete team around on their good in the backfield. I think their receivers are getting better. They're figuring out how they wanna use trae Burton, and what that means when used a tight in the way, they're using him and then defensively with Khalil Mack back. That's probably is that the best defense in the NFC. Gary will find out Nick Sunday when they play Minnesota who Carolina guess, although there had a horrible game on Thursday to might have the best defense in the NFC. You're not gonna like my answer. Andy. They haven't played anyone. No, we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out over the last two months of the season. How good they really are. I think I think their schedule has been I'm not drawing the line. I'm not going to sit here and say, oh, you know, that they'd be this foreign five team, but they didn't beat the six and three teams. I think they'd played exceptionally easy scheduled to this point. And and we're going to find out what happens. I don't like that. You're right. I think that's I think that's sloppy and lazy. That's college football type analysis. We're doing an NFL show here. Yeah. I look at. Yeah. They're potentially really good. The one thing that sort of. I don't wanna say this is going to sound silly. I'm gonna say it worries me because I don't know if it's sustainable they are getting a ton of interceptions this year. And when they have struggled in the past, and we've kind of said, wow, they're just not getting the turnovers that they usually get. This year. They're just coming in bunches. They have I'll let me bring up the actual number here. So I don't sound like complete nonsense. But they are they're they're at I think they're at fifteen sixteen. Now, they have sixteen interceptions through nine games. I don't think that's sustainable. I maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they'll keep piling up. But I think that is a result of good teams tend to have good quarterbacks and good quarterbacks. Ten did not throw a lot of interceptions. Throws a lot of interceptions. Sam bradford. And and the Fitzpatrick win. Bam. Darnold, a young guy learning and Wyler and Nathan Peterman cetera. Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. I do get what you're saying. But we've wondered before I've always wondered why the bears don't have more interceptions over the years because play two deep zone coverage a lot though. So that's a lot of is on the quarterback. That's a lot of is. On the routes. The reason you would play that one of the reasons is to create turnovers. That's why that's the main objective of playing zone coverage instead of man to man man to man, you play that too. Great create stops zone. Coverage. You play it to create turnovers at the highest thirty thousand foot view of these things and the bears. Never did that we always said. Well, they're pass rusher away. If they can find the pass rush, they'll start making more turnovers, and I think it's gone that way, I think that's is incredibly well coached. I think the Bryce Callahan is maybe the best slot corner. In the NFL safeties know what they're doing a muka Mira and Kyle fuller outside. They don't get enough credit. That is a really fine tuned secondary that they have in the other thing is our linebackers mainly roquan Smith. They're starting to play faster. It. And by the way, I want I want to tell you about this because the beautiful symmetry the whole thing they have sixteen interceptions from nine games this year each of the last three seasons they had eight interceptions. So they've already doubled their total in in seventeen or sixteen or fifteen. I will say because I want to say nice things about the bears. I I mean, look at you wrote about it a little bit in your Friday preview column. Roquan Smith is getting better that was that was going to happen. He got in their late. Obviously yen. You kind of said, okay. If this defense is going to have issues might be early on. But you figure they'll get better with with Smith adjusting the NFL after late star. Obviously Khalil Mack got their right before the season started and. Yeah. This is it feels like. And when you look on the side of the ball, you had the new system. It looked like a team that would be better in the second half of the season the first half and this they're six and three right now. So they collected wins. I mean, that's that's that's part of the battle here. I'm going to be this'll be a fun team to watch down the stretch certain teams football's just more fun when they're good to me the bears and those bear fans and that market in Chicago, that's one of those situations. Absolutely. Yeah. And look they have they had the Vikings twice that starts next week with the Sunday night. They will host the Vikings. They have the Rams they host the Packers. So yeah, they have some games coming up here. And. Again on Thursday. They're gonna play the lions two times, and what eleven twelve days like that eleven days from November November twenty six. Thanksgiving game. Yeah. That's that'll be fun. I just wanna make one point on the lines. I I'm so disappointed in in the lions this year. I still I will never be able to wrap my head around that golden teach trade. I I know they weren't going to come to a contract agreement with him. I just I feel like they punted the season when there was absolutely no reason to punt the season. And I don't know what's going on with that defense right now. Well, and all on the note of the golden retriever, then we'll move onto a new game here because we talked about who replaces golden Tate, and I speculated would be TJ Jones or THEO Riddick, and we heard there was a port that maybe it's Brandon pal. The son drafted rookie guy. Pal. I don't know if he's even played a single snap yet. When you don't when the inhouse replacement is theoretically an undrafted rookie who has not been on the field. It means you don't have an in house replacement because you would never trade a quality starter away for an undrafted rookie who you haven't seen in live action. No matter how much we love them in camp. How good he's looking. You the beat writers there all the time. Eventually someone's going to tell them that that, hey, this guy that you haven't written about because you've been here forty nine days in a row day. Fifty let's write about this undrafted rookie who's very good just tread lightly on that stuff. It doesn't work that way. Very rarely does it guy just step up and get promoted from within in the NFL like that. And it has been THEO Riddick in the slot. And he's okay. He's been okay. He's not golden Tate. Oh that trade that traits going to bother me before we before we move on as we covered a little while ago. Here you know, giving up your season because you have a chance to grab a third round pick. 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Now, I think they have enough wins that feel confident in saying that they're gonna play January football. Yep. They. Yeah. I mean. He's there anything you. They have Joey Bosa coming back. I mean granted is the raiders today. And they're supposed to beat up on the raiders. And they did. This is a complete team though. I mean, we kind of paper for the season it was a complete team. But you know. Six wins in a row now after the one in to start. The the remaining chargers fans must be feeling. Pretty good about this one thing they've done this season. I think I think they're at the point. We can start talking details with this team. I don't think our listeners need to hear us say again that have big receivers and Philip rivers can do everything and we already talked about Melvin Gordon their defense. We've talked about Derwin James allot who again flash. Today's a Blitzer. But that was not a huge part of what they did the other guy that plays down there next to James. And I think is worth examining is Adrian Phillips their third safety who has been in on about sixty percent of the snaps their dime defense. They're not a nickel defense and with James Phillips too big safeties that can play down the box. They have a tremendous amount of versatility. They can play coverage. They can play the run with those two guys. That's a big deal. And I think if they're going to go deep into January like you've suggested Phillips and James will be a big part of. They're going to have to stay on the field. They're both having tremendous seasons. They are now. It's a it's a really good defense James was a guy in Florida state last year as he kind of worked his way back from some the knee problems. There's people wondering Yeli do shack. Thompson him. Do you make him a a linebacker the next level? He does his best work around the line of scrimmage, really. He's done. His best work all over the field as a as a rookie here. This raider steam. Look everyone was kind of wondering after they carved up by Nick Mullins and got embarrassed on Thursday night. Are they are? They completely mailing it in. I don't want to sound like some like Rah Rah, you know, like, my sport type guy but raiders played hard in this game. They're undermanned raiders went hard. Yeah. I have not had an issue with their effort on film at any point this season. I don't think they've looked very good on their line which is led to inconsistent offense. Overall, car's been the little bit up and down. Although he had some nice moments in this game and gutsy moments. They just don't have defense. They don't have the personnel. Which means they don't quite know what they're doing with their. I mean, they know what they're doing their scheme. But not really because you don't have the guys in there to run it consistently. So it's same story with the raiders. In fact, I would say from now on Gary raider games on these Sunday night slash Monday morning podcasts. We can just say see previous show, and it's going to be the same thing every single week, and we can spend the time talking about whoever beat the raiders at day. Not a lots of change in here. There's not a lot on the horizon. They're probably going to have seven or eight new starters on defense at this time next year. Yeah. That that is true. All right. Well, let's go onto let's go onto the Seahawks, and the Rams this was a their second beating of the year here and the and the Rams once again survived this one a little bit. I guess the. If you're Rams fan, you're still a little bit worried about this defense, you're encouraged by the fact that they won another close game they're five and a one possession games. Now what I thought was most encouraging was a Donte Fowler after making picking up incredibly boneheaded penalty to basically push the punt team field. And and bring the offense back got touched on this thing there he made a huge play late strip strip decking. Russell Wilson lead directly to a touchdown. I mean, he is flashing as the kind of edge presence that they they really need with his defense. Absolutely. I was wrong. I didn't think they would play them in their base three four slash five to package, and he has played in that. So he's been he's not an every down player for him. But he's been an almost every package player. And he's he he'll help if he continues doing what he's doing. They get an edge rushing presence. Dhamma consume the other side, that's Donald embroiders inside. That's what they need that that'll help. I think the big story in this game though, Gary is the other side of the ball and Cooper Cup going down with what sounds like an ACL injury. That's going to have major repercussions on that. Rams offense major repercussions. Yeah. All we know what the moment is non Kochta non-contact knee injury for for Cup. And obviously he didn't return in this one. What do they do to replace them? I mean, you have Robert woods whose another kind of slot possession type guy, Gerald Everett. My my my real guy. Jalen Smith is not my guy Gerald ever is my guy in forever. My guy a he's made a couple of plays couple touchdowns last couple of weeks. Maybe he gets bigger role. I mean, yeah. What would what do they do to replace Cup at this point? I don't know if he's not irreplaceable. But there are things he does that are irreplaceable. The guy's gonna be Josh. Reynolds at doesn't Cup was out a few weeks ago Reynolds filled in Reynolds mates and plays here and there, but he's not as good on the deep crossers. As Cup is. And then the really big deal that will never get noticed that the Rams within the organization, they talk about this. A lot is in robber woods is the other guy who does this Cooper Cup and Robert woods are so good at disguising their routes off the snap and making it look like they might be run blocking or running around. So when everybody talks about the range, you don't know if it's going to be a run play or a pass play all the players start out looking the same. That's not just a fake hand off action with golfing girly. It's not just the offensive line. It's also the way those wide receivers are taught and the way Cup presents himself as a route runner does wonders for that offense of line. They rave about it there and to lose that you lose some subtle help for those offense of Lyman. And I think it's going to have consequently, they're not gonna be as good there. So the line now has to play better in the running game. You'd never think about. A number two or number three receiver going down and having that significantly impact your running game. But for the Rams these wide receivers lineup just barely outside the offense of tackles, it absolutely will impact the running game. So Todd girlies job got harder today. Can I give you the good news for the Rams? Yes, please. They really didn't give up any big plays over the top today. Seattle. Seattle's not been a big play offense this year either. Well, they were against the Rams last time. The Russell Russell Bates plays with his legs in the in the run game. But I mean less Sunday played it was it was lock it in David more over the top. Ranson give those up. The right direction. I guess my goodness. I'm looking at Seattle's rushing numbers from this game. Russell Wilson at ninety two yards. So that inflates soom how many of those do, you know, how many were unscrambles Gary those work designed runs. I would imagine watch the game. I didn't not see many designed runs. I would say we seven or eight of those scrambles. So let's take Wilson out which is a lot of yards to take out as you know. I think those ninety if they were scramble yards. I think they should count passing gas or. Yeah. But thirty three runs for the rain or for the Seahawks for about just under two hundred yards air looks like Rams run defense is not very good. I've heard some of said I have not heard this from anyone with the Rams. This is outside the organization now at some of said Wade Phillips really doesn't think run defenses at important not not in terms of yards per carry. And you know, what he might be onto something there because the more I. I've watched every snap a Seattle on film this season. I am really impressed with their running game. But what happens is reason I said they don't make a lot of big plays. At least it feels that way. Because when you run the ball so much you're so dependent on big plays. Because otherwise, you're drives have to go twelve to fifteen snaps in this is not going to happen. So it's the whole the running the ball. We ought to have a long off season discussion and examination of really what that means. And how we define success in the running game for an offense and defense because I don't think it's just a simple as the yards. There have to be other factors. Seattle ran all over the Rams today. And they did not win the game. I mean situationally the Rams don't play from behind very often they plead from behind very early in this one of the they much went punch for punch with the with the Seahawks in the first half. And we're leading by halftime. But. If you don't play from behind I feel like that's not nearly as problematic. I mean, the issue with their defense is it's one thing to say you will will give up the yards per carry. But you can't give it the yards per carry n give up the big plays. And they've been giving up the big plays. But this this is a workable blueprint with with with what their offense does. I think it is. These teams always played tough to a lot of their games. Go tight down the wire. And there've been some defensive games last year there were and there have been some offense of gains sometimes teams just match up. Well, McVeigh has a lot of respect for Russell Wilson in what he can do coaches. Hey playing against guys that are that X factor. The guys at might scramble for ninety two yards against one day. They do I mean this used to be the surprise games where the Rams would contain. Russell Wilson the back in the Jeff Fisher days and. Yeah. Things have even out a little bit Seahawks are the underdogs now. And they've hung in there with the Rams twice this year. Let's talk. Let's talk titans patriots. And look everyone's gonna talk about what's wrong with the patriots. No, rob gronkowski today. Julian Ataman went out later in the game. The patriots are kind of limping into their by week here. They're also getting the by week at the right time. I I will speak for you. Andy and say our official statement on this show is at the patriots will be fine in the long run. And when they get to January, it's gonna be you know, it's gonna be them. It's gonna be the Steelers can be the chiefs zone and so forth. The titans though, and we've talked about the titans defensively lot. And we both liked the defense. This offense is starting to get it go going a little bit. And we were so disappointed when Delaney Walker went down a week one and said, how are they gonna make up for this today? You really saw a pretty good connection between mariota inquiry Davis. I think this is good as that tandem that that connections has looked in Davis's whatever season a half now to this point. And I think they might have something going here in Tennessee. Yeah. He has filled the Walker rule some of the stuff that they were doing with Walker that we have to do it still. We're not going to just drop this from our playbook who's the guy. Now, the guy has become Corey Davis. He's been the matchup factor. The x factor which is hard for a number one. And his in this team. He's number one receiver, and he's gotta fill some the roles of their hybrid tight end. But he's done that pretty well. He looks a lot better. I've been impressed with the season. He's had so far. He was not. A good route runner as a rookie. And we wondered is that just a comfort level thing. He missed so much time in camp and early in the season. And when guys are uncomfortable play choppy, and they don't play as fast as it. Can we've seen now that he he's not a fast guy or fast player, but he's played officially splayed fast enough, and in a well-designed off that's going to do the trick for you what they're doing that. They didn't do as much early in the season. We're seeing some of that jet sweep stuff that the Rams have been doing and leflore comes from the Rams, but they weren't doing that as much last year when leflore was there. So you know, he's been watching around the league and seeing how this can help are running game. Help are passing game just decorating our offense. They have to do it with some bells and whistles because they don't have the personnel there personnels below average overall. I've been real leflore is doing a nice job. He's he's gotten better as a coordinator. He's better now than it was early in the season. Nickel floor is going to be a head coach here. I think there's going to be a run on often young offense of coaches, everybody's everybody's gonna want the next Sean McVeigh. And we heard Zack Taylor's name get floated their Rams QB coach that right? There tells you that everybody wants to Nick Sean McVay 'cause Taylor's very new to the he's been coordinator before. But he was the Rams assistant wide receiver coach last year. I mean, he's new to the scene. I think leflore will certainly get interviews. And then it's just a folk tion of which jobs are available sometime. This stuff's a two year process to of great examples. Vance Joseph who could have had a head coaching job before he became the memories of dolphins defensive coordinator that one year under Adam gays in first-year and days brought in Matt Burke who's now they're coordinator brought him in because he said he's going to be the actual long-term coordinator. We know Vance is going to leave almost certainly after this season for a head coaching job. Well, Vance Joseph the dolphins did not. Very high that year. They just knew Vance Joseph stock was high from the previous year. Here's another example, the guy that was in this game out coach Bill Bella check. Mike Rabl had the thirty second ranked defense last season. And he got the titans job this year. Not because he went thirty two last year because he interviewed well that you're before sometimes job stuff just takes two years. So I don't know floral be a head coach or not next year. But he he'll be in the mix and it'll be probably their next season or the year after if he's going to get one of those jobs. All right. Let's let's go onto let's go a Cleveland Browns. Get win number three here and win number one under under Greg Williams. Nick Chubb had had a franchise record ninety two yard touchdown run that that sort of broke this one opened a little bit. But I kind of want to and I hate to I hate to sort of overlook the Browns on this one. I want to talk about the thousand's and their continued struggles defensively, but also they they didn't score in this one. They just didn't come back in this game. And I guess that's partly a function of of a talented young Browns defense, they did have Denzo ward in this one after we feared he had suffered a major injury last week. But. Jeez. The falcons I mean we were all ready to jump back on the falcons bandwagon. And they just they had a total dud of the game in this one. Yeah, they did. We I was on it. I was back on because I picked him to win the Super Bowl issues. I was happy to see at least have a prayer to happen again. Very disappointed not a season ending game. You know, they're four and five it's not over. But very disappointing loss early. I will be really interested to see the film on this one with the Browns because they do a couple of things either actually sound weird because he's almost two opposite things, but they play man-to-man coverage. Really well and then at times when they're hot when they're clicking. They play cover two zone. Really? Well, so very divergent coverage concepts there, that's the Greg Williams stamp. He gives you a lot of different stuff. Sometimes I if I'm being honest, I think he puts too much on his guys plates. But they've been in a better rhythm lately with that defensive stuff or at least. Times they have. I mean the chiefs lit up at times last week. But. The Browns do this once in a while they're equipped to have a breakout game, and you go here we go Browns. Here they go. It's a little bit of function of that. They do a lot of different things and some days that works for you. I still question the big picture. Yeah. Yeah. Offensively efficient. They were. Well, I want to say efficient. They just they didn't turn the ball over which was a obviously a positive here and Baker Mayfield than the seventeen for twenty actually did turn over once. That's right Dontrelle Hillier the running back through a threw an interception on on a little trick play. But other than that they. They took care of the ball. And Nick had that one really long run to sort of skew the the rushing totals but Brown's win number three good for them. Young team. You know this. This. Yeah. It's good to performed. Well, this is not even coming from one of our researchers. I'm doing this by myself. I believe this was the second time in the last three weeks at the Browns did not have a receiver with more than thirty nine yards through the air. The last time was Pittsburgh. We ate. Okay. That is that anything just let the searchers do the work. Now, I'm about to blow you away with stat to gains from now. So I just I'm not going to be impressed by that Andy. Sorry. Well, I'm not going to be impressed by whatever you've got to. Yes. Yes. You are. Came wait for it. But we got one more game to go. I the Orleans at Cincinnati. The saints are really good. I don't I don't really know how to put it the Bengals have to come up with a different approach defensively because sitting back in saying we're gonna we're gonna make this team make mistakes that that works against some opponents. I'm just we're going to let this team make mistakes. There's a difference here. Let them make mistakes. What happens is you run into a team with drew Brees? And they don't make very many mistake was it was fairly predictable. I mean, the saints end up putting up fifty one points in five hundred nine yards. This game was was was not close. Well, it was seven seven at the end of the first quarter. So I guess it was closed for a little bit. But. This was a blow out. This was a complete mismatch the saints offense going at the Bengals defense. What the Bengals do they play to deep safeties a lot which is what they did last year under Paul Guenther. Who's now the raiders coordinator? Now Terrel Austen former lions coordinator, he's running the Bengals defense. He still plays those two deep safeties. But it's a little bit of a softer -tudents not covered to it's more of a cover for you're laughing. But it's true. It's a softer cover for. So they want to make you have to sustain offense against them. Remember early in the season. I said the Bengals are an interesting defense because you watch them on film. They don't do a whole lot, particularly well, and they're not very aggressive, and yet you look up and here we are in the fourth quarter and they've only given up twenty points or so you do have to earn your yards against them. What happens is when you're not very good or very aggressive teams really figure. They start to figure you out and exploited. If they know what you're going to be. N in Europe, passive defense, you become more susceptible to designer plays that beach, and that's why you've got a wrinkle the stuff, and I'm not saying they're not wrinkling it Austin's done. Some. He's always done in a nice job with wrinkles. But I I'm with you right now. I don't think that defensive approach quite fits the person. I think they should be doing a lot more man to man coverage with these guys that they have at cornerback. And the issues are at linebacker are they fast enough there? We could discuss that. But here's a here's another discussion. It's a theoretical one. Should you? Let your linebackers dictate. Your coverage calls if you've got three really good corners. But you're not comfortable playing man because you don't have any man to man linebackers is that acceptable or should a coach live with that. And find ways around it and say, I've got three really good corners. I'm playing man coverage. I'm a bit of a trick question. Because we we see what the result is the the past two weeks or Shitsu the past games with the Bengals here. They they give the the huge second half blew the monster leading Ryan Fitzpatrick, and it was followed up by this. So. Yeah. I'd say play men just just. Nick, someone make someone do something to be you. I feel like whenever I watch Bengals games. Live the number of times a receiver makes a catch like twelve yards fourteen yards downfield. And then you see. Defensive backs come into your screen after they've already given up sixteen yards. It's it's just it's rough. It's not it's not working. You know, what's really interesting to me is Gary the buccaneers today against the Redskins. They gave up the buck scored three points despite having five hundred yards of total offense or the only team to do that since nineteen sixty. I knew you're going to try and spoil that so I didn't feel I built a built a second stat here. So that was uh. So that's not your that's not you're at that. I'm trying to get out in front of. That's not. Use spoil it a little bit ever. No to Washington Tampa Bay here. Sixteen three win for Washington. But I pulled up every every game in which a team had five hundred yards every regular season and postseason game. There are six hundred thirty two of them that a team had five hundred yards. And this was this is the first time a team had ever scored three points or fewer. Now's the bucks in this game. And the the only time in the past. What is that thirty two years that someone's been held under thirteen points? Well, getting five hundred yards. I was going to set it this center. So you kind of ruined that. So I know I have I blitz your little stat here. And I blew it up. I maybe didn't take the ball from you on this. But I certainly forced you on an incompletion because I've what you just said was not as interesting as it would have been if I hadn't gotten in there. I know I was just going to set it up like a trivia question. Well, that would have been more fun for our listeners. I guess I forgot. This nerves that are involved in this whole thing. This is not just the two of us needling each other and being jerks for forty five minutes every every Sunday night. Yeah. This was I mean this game was wild. And I don't want to take away anything from Washington. I feel like I played out Washington. The other great stat, which you probably saw and I had seen it. Ryan taylor. Researchers send it to me. Because it's just it's exactly what we've been talking about all year with this Redskins team is they are they have to be front runners to win games, and they can't play from behind the literally and it held true through this game. They have not had lead change in a game this season. The first team has won the game all night. It's more interesting. That's more interesting than their five hundred yard fun thing. Which is every dental because of the turnovers that the bucks had everyone everyone saw everyone already saw at though. That'd be change. I know. Yeah. I I was in the dark on that one. That's that is really interesting. Some might say it's a little bit boring. But that's that's fun. That is insane in twenty eight teen to go nine games without a lead change one way or another. It's one thing to to have no comeback victories or something like that. No leachate. What not even like, you know, we got a field goal on our first ride and they scored a touchdown on drive. And and that's a Li Jane they haven't even had that just whoever scored I has one every one of their games the turnoff Redskins games. Now. Then just watch. I like. Rules. It is it is. Oh, man. Yeah. But it looked Washington's at six and three right now. But I don't know. So I was thinking about this throughout the day because I gave my impassioned defensive of dirt cutter on the deep dive show on Thursday. The bucks were inside the Redskins thirty yard line six times. They ended up getting eighth hield Golda got thirty Garfield. They missed a short field goal. They missed another longer field goal still within into yards. He was a forty yard attempt. They had an interception and they lost two fumbles. Can you put that on? I mean, obviously, it's always on the coaching staff to an extent. But can you look at it and say and say, oh, this is this is a poorly coach team. I always wondered that too is how do we gauge mistakes are their reflection of coaches or not into a certain degree. They have to be. But. It doesn't come from coaching decisions. So take that part out doesn't come from game. Planning probably doesn't come from motivation or team focus or any of that kind of thing. You don't like motivate Peyton Barbara to hold the ball better. Something like that. I guess maybe you do. I don't know. I've never known how that's a hard question. I've never known how to answer it. I do know that more often than not owners will just say they'll just blame the coach I think cut is Dead Man Walking right now. Yep. I think we're gonna talk about another coach who is a who similar that which is why ask about Matt leflore a little while ago because I think he's going to. Have a couple jobs that shoes from this upcoming offseason. I mean, people are it's it's not it's not a shocker, but I think a couple of guys. Unfortunately, and I will continue to Fender cutter. But I think this might have been the end for him. And we have one other guy who. I think this was the this was the final straw today. But with that positive note, let's go to lightning round. And we're actually starting in this game is in Indianapolis. I almost said in Jacksonville this Jacksonville. At indianapolis. This is a Jaguars just disappointing season rolling on here. This was a winnable game. They had a couple of blown coverages early that led to Eric E. Bron touchdowns colts end up hanging on colts culture, still in it culture. Still into two they end up forcing a restored green fumble at the end of this one to to seal it the Jaguars had moved into field goal position. But a student shod green. Not recharge green, Rashad Greene. Fumble Jaguars Warren field goal position at that point. But never get a chance to tie it. Or maybe even when it late twenty nine twenty six Jaguars colts be be excited about the colts. Here we talked about him a couple of weeks ago. Still win a games ofensive line is ascending. They've got guys who are all drafted in the top forty in their respective years. And then Jaguars same. This was a factor today or not the factor. But it's it's the big picture of why they're three and six their defensive line is not been what it was a year ago. So better off into line for indie worst defensive line for Jacksonville. And you got to teams going in different directions in the AFC south. And I'll just say I think he's gonna come short. But throw Andrew luck into the MVP candidacy little jar of names, you keep in your house, or whatever you might do another another big game, but he has eight interceptions this year. And I swear to God at least five of them. Maybe six of them have been pleased where the ball bounce stuff. Like the chest of an open receive not even one of those like os kind of contested and deflected this guy like wide open receivers who manage to somehow bat Abol into the arms of defender who has already beaten by a couple of steps. Andy holt. I was just going to add your point the colts lead the league unofficially in self inflicted wounds in the passing game. I know exactly what you're talking about. I think it's and it's been in problem not just on turnovers but missed opportunity plays. Now, they've cleaned it up a little bit and they're starting to win. But this was an issue for them back in early October. And you wonder where they'd be now they didn't have that issue. I think they'd be above five hundred. They did it was the former VCU basketballer MO alley Cox who pulled it off today. Turning a a wide open catch into a tell them Smith interception. Miami at Green Bay Packers. Get back on track. I'm still as anyone who reads, my sunny morning column knows I am. I am. I was joking little bit in my Packers or definitely going to win the Super Bowl. I I don't think they are definitely going to win the Super Bowl. I think they're still very much in the hunt. Here I think they have a chance to collect a bunch of wins in the second half of the season. And this was the kind of game. The offense is still working things out with all the all the new receivers all the receivers rotating in the defense is getting better and better and yell. They played probably a b game. And still had no problem beating a dolphins team. That is given some other opponents some troubles here. Aaron Jones we haven't talked about him a whole lot other than to say early in the season. He's clearly their best runner, and he should be the guy. Yeah. Ball and they've now agreed with that. And then they are making him the guy he rushed for one hundred and forty five yards on fifteen carries it day at sixty seven yarder that that helps but those big ones count too. When you look at some of his advanced metrics, I saw this from Graham Barfield on on Twitter with the NFL NFL dot com. His advanced metrics is next gen stats. He's I in yards per carry first in yards gained after defender closes. Which is a subjective stats grain of salt. But I so. He's up there. I in rushing gains at ten plus yards. I and rushing success rate, which I believe is a carry a four plus yards. These are over the last two years. This is Aaron Jones ranks he's a good good runner for Green Bay. And I think he's gradually changing the makeup of this offense. And imagine what a if they have the guy at running back. I ate guy top ten running back. Imagine what this offense will look like. Yeah. No. They're going to get better as year goes on. They can't afford to slip up against the team. They should be in the season. There's there's very little margin for error. But I am sticking with my my ridiculous Packers back chiefs. I want oversee this and say like oh chiefs, someone someone found the weakness something like that. But Patrick Mahomes was kind of under siege. In this game. This is this is nice effort by the cardinals defense in this one kind of. Allowed to hang around. Obviously the chiefs got the wind, and they're still very very good twenty six to fourteen but I don't know cardinals are much better than they were earlier the season. So give them give them a gold star as well. You know, what bugs me almost as much as time on Gumri jersey. Number thing is when the allow here, we go bungle lot is when teams they win the uniforms of the two teams don't contrast as much as they could. So but as the chiefs wore their red jerseys at home today almost always do the cardinals picked today of all days to wear their red red pants. I actually I hate that that Andy I didn't them where they're white Browns Bengals violate this extraordinary degrees because there have been games where the Bengals one last year the Bengals were their orange jerseys or third jersey and the. Brownsword their orange pants that day. And it was just a cream cycle. They have is at what I call it a cream fest earlier this year had a an Easter eight game between the Jaguars who had te'o pants and the titans who had light blue jerseys. Make these teams maximized a contrast of the uniform. So that we can better. See the action drives me nuts. Are you going to cream skull Festus here, by the way the summer? I think the terrorists playing it's gonna be good. I'm sure that's much funnier than I don't know. Who that is? But I'm found their IRA's Chicago. Oh, well is he from Chicago? What do you mean? Oh, God bears the bears. No, no well yelled at you about slash couple of years ago. Now Mark Maria in here. This and yell at you about Chicago. I made some disparaging remarks about the band, Chicago. And Mark Marievic did not appreciate it. So you'll hear from him on that band called Chicago come on. You know, there's a ban Chicago. Surprised there is. But I did not know that I would've guessed because the odds why wouldn't someone of taken that name? But I know landing about the Banjul cargo could walk into my house and play their number one hit right now. And I'd call the cops. I wouldn't do. I don't know. I do not that would be a great night that'd be better than a night cream school fest. But the Saturday in the park twenty five or six four, you know, those songs if you heard the songs you'd be like, oh, yeah. That song that band. I'll give listen my muse, I openly admit my music taste is embarrassing right now in November. I always listen to Joe Joe member Joe she's saying. Get out that song get out leave right now. I listened to her. So I, but we on them out guess, not embarrassing. But I'm owning it a few years ago and the QB training camp tour someone playing a Bruce Springsteen song, and I didn't I didn't recognize it and someone mentioned, blah, blah, blah, born to run, and I didn't know what they were talking about. And he says Bruce Springsteen born to run and they played that I didn't I had never heard that song. Or at least I didn't know that. I'd ever heard it Peter King was in the car for that Peter King has been to thirty plus Bruce Springsteen concerts, and I knew it was really bad because I was like I thought oh Peter's gonna react. And I'm going to be the cute little guy here. 'cause I don't know what I get all this attention. He didn't react. He didn't find it very charming that I didn't know what born to run that was a cited know what born to run I've heard of it. But I never heard the song. Here this thing. And this is this goes back to the guns N roses stuff. These are, you know, these songs, you might not know the name of the song or the Lear. But if you heard these songs he'd be like, oh, yeah. That's so I don't mind that part of it. I do mind that, you know slash, but I don't mind the part where you don't know she got. But it said, I didn't know slash said. I went and saw him. I saw them play the Jimmy Kimmel show you you knew I after that night after that night. I had that how I learned. Yes. Only fourteen though. Well, he was also like twenty years after everybody knew flash flash slash. Oh, really scary. Really? You really pushing buttons right now and even. Ever since you spoiled my buck stat. We got to. We have the. Yeah. The bills and the jets the the game the day and look. I don't know what's gonna happen Todd Bowles. But I don't think he can be retained after after this. And you know, look the bills one in Minnesota. They are as you would say anti NFL team. Matt Barkley got the starting this one, and and brought some level of of just I don't know. Calls the water billing say, yes. And laid well before remember he played well in Chicago against Green Bay a few years ago. Eight in a game he met Berkeley is a respectable NFL journeyman backup quarterback. And I mean that a positive way. Josh mccown was disaster in this one just really bad authenticity. And I think what goes down to is the jets have regressive sharply ofensive -ly. I think they have to make a change. I think they have to get an offense of coach in there or just someone who's gonna change the approach with with what they're doing on the side of the ball because it was getting worse with darnold, and and it was terrible with mccown in this one. By the way, Logan Thomas completed a pass in this one on a fake punt. And I forgot how many X quarterbacks the bills are featuring to real tyrel prior. And. Oh, gosh. That's how many to three targets. No catches for Terrell Pryor today in his revenge game against the jets. But his bills did get the victory. They did they really did before we go to the weekend. He'd get lady bell. Do you have any thoughts on lady on bell? I mean, if you're listening to this show after four o'clock on Tuesday, you know, the answer to what lay beyond bell has done slash will do if we're talking the in the present tense for for our purposes on Sunday night. But I I'm I'm not going to be shocked. If he doesn't report at this point since it's been reported that that he probably will not and all that. But if you would if you had said this back in August, I would have been I would have been stunned that this is played out. It doesn't usually the only guy who's I think sat out a whole season is Sean Gilbert back in the nineties Durell rivers okel, not coincidentally with how Rivas handled his business. So I if this quarterback franchise tag thing is true, which I heard mixed reports. But it's my sense is it is true that if they do tag a mixture it's going to have to be under the quarterback number which means you're not gonna tag them next year. It's in everyone's best interest for belt or not show up. And they also remember they don't need Levy on Bill this year James CONNER has indeed been he's not as good of a player's bell is, but the offense has been just as good with him in there and Bill stead, which tells you Bill I think is immensely valuable but not necessarily to the Steelers. I think he's worth more to someone else. And if I were him I'd sit in go to someone else next year. It'd be nice for them deadly the bell for for the postseason -freshing. So would be pretty good. Freshly bell. Yeah. Well, when he comes in apparently, the late will work he'll come in. He'll he'll be on the exemption for up to two weeks. And and they'll, you know, they'll get him back into whatever shape. Yes. To be in before he takes the field. I him or so different is all and Connors played. Well. How do you handle that to what what's what's the message? You send the locker room if the the young guy who I'm sure is just kept his head down and showed up to work every day running back and has played remarkably. Well, one player of the month in October is going to have over twelve hundred yards rushing. Eight hundred receiving if you bench that guy for the guy who held out and everybody ripped or not everybody. But a lot of the veterans on your team publicly criticize what does that do for the locker room? I mean, yeah, has to be a human element to this dozen. They're definitely and look, I don't know if it's actually benching James Connor. I mean, they'd be in some sort of timeshare, and I imagine Connor would be taking the bulk of it for for the time being. My one criticism bell. And and I've written about this bunch. And I think the franchise tag is is has just become a complete farce. And it is not what it was originally designed to be. And it's especially harmful when it's used in the way that it is used these days on players like bell. And and it's it's an anti labor. It's it's a bull crap move by team to franchise tag, a guy who they who they deemed not valuable enough to actually sign to a franchise type contract, which would be a long term deal. But. Laving belly? If he looked maybe he was just planning on not comeback along. I support the fact that he's holding out. But I'm really he should have just reached out to someone in the light. Even just one guy to just sort of check in. And and you know, it seemed like he was more. He was trolling more than he was actually, you know, James Connor said he was he text them after games. I mean, yeah. How do we know? He didn't check in with people. Now, the offense of line seemed to be very upset throughout the first part of the year that they were not hearing from. Yeah. Now for them to figure out now or not to figure out if he doesn't show up Tuesday. All right. Anything of the week? My thing of the week. I've noticed someone's listening this deep in the show. I either huge fans of the band Chicago, which used to be called the Kogyo port authority. I think according to Wikipedia as you talk in there, Gary there either that or they're very huge nerdy football fan. So I'll give them the nerdy football fan thing. There's a certain play called ninety flip which you've seen a lot. You might not know that that's what you've seen. Just like, I didn't know that. I've heard the band Chicago, actually, but it's it's worthy action flows to one way. And then they pitched the ball to the running back the other way and a lot of teams are running more on third down and one they pitched the ball to the boundary to the short side of the field for the running back. And what teams are doing? Now is running jet action off of the chargers did in this game today, you see it at least two or three times. A week if you just flipping around watching Sunday games ninety flips a big play this year in a lot of teams that had a lot of success with it. I'm going with the I'm just gonna go with the Tennessee titans. I really liked the titans in like June. And then everyone got hurt all summer, and they were so far by the eight ball going into the season. I thought it was really gonna be a lost year. And and I'd like them more on twenty nineteen then they started winning games, and it kind of said, well, maybe they'll figure out anyway. And then they went on that losing streak and said, well that was that was cool and they were winning. But there's the way was gonna play out anyway. But the fact that Mike braille still has a steam I mean, they have improved rapidly. You know, Matt will floor Abbas. He gets a lot of credit for what's going on the offense aside the ball, but they have overcome a ton to win five games. I mean, if this was a six and ten season, you'd say know, that's that's kind of understandable. And no one will give rebel any coach of the year love because they made the playoffs last year and you take over playoff team. And you're expected to go back to the playoffs. But I think the job that staff has done and that team has done has been. Pretty exceptional this year, and they're sitting at five and four and that is a very winnable division that they're in AFC south is going to be fastened on the stretch here. Excited for the south down the stretch. Yeah. I've got some more Texans. Stats? I'm going to share at a later day saving for next year. They're playing the Redskins next week six and three verse six and three. I'm just looking at that schedule. Now. Could be good. Something's gotta be one is at one. We want to do on the Thursday show. Did we miss that? I have some Texan stats that are just just bursting teams here. 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At the Podium #10.5: The Picket Fence & Slow Starts

Bleeding Green Nation

30:00 min | 3 years ago

At the Podium #10.5: The Picket Fence & Slow Starts

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Look into at the podium. Ten point five brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at microchemist NFL today. It's all about the coordinators Jimmy Schwartz talks about the defense allowing twenty seven points. Dallas frigging Cowboys the state of the secondary. And he also strikes back about his controversial, quote, unquote, sticks defense or picket fence defense wherever you want to call. It actually makes it pretty good point about it. Although I'm not sure y'all wanna hear that right now. Then it's Mike. Rowe who is facing major scrutiny right now. Just as side note in between the scheduled work I do here as we transition from Dallas week to this upcoming saints game. I'm going to be looking at the Frank Reich offense in India to see if I can find any key differences between what Reich is doing what grows doing? So for me. The jury is still out on that. It will see what I find in from there. But today on this show, grow answers questions about golden tapin-. Twenty nine percent is naps in his debut. What will Josh Adams has carved out for himself? And of course, he's going to feel some questions about why the offense can't get off the ground early up next to your own bleeding green nation. We have the kissed end so lack show coach's film review of the Dallas game. We swear it's less hybrid to talk about it for now. Let's get to these press conferences trick or treat. And when there's not a big crowd. You guys get the whole the whole handful, usually, please take one. Just just keep. Keep taking three questions though. Guys got. What is she quarterback position with the injuries and everything you have? Well, I mean hate to get cliche. But it is what it is. I mean, we got some guys her. We got some guys are working hard to get back. We get some young players that need to fill in and make and make their way in the league. We got some guys that aren't coming back. Obviously Darby's not go come back running clouds, not come back the other guy. So I'll have a chance to get back. But our job is players job as coaches, try find try our work to find a formula that works for the guys that we have in my mind, that's the essence of that's the essence of coaching take which yacht and try to figure out it might it might look different than when than we were two hundred percents. Gordon seems to be running the season fourth. What are some of the things that you you do better stop offenses late games? Now. I think I think so many of those of come down to a play in a drive that we got chance to get it stopped. And we haven't we haven't made the play. I think part of the NFL like goes in streaks. Remember, I think it was a couple years ago that that we were giving up a bunch in the first half and second half. I think it was maybe two thousand sixteen. I I I f we gave up point second half we gave up any and and then took a lot of questions earlier this year about the difference between us between road and home and stuff. I think some of those things are just things that things that come up over. The course time those guys make plays, you know, at different times. But I think the theme of of the fourth quarter is we need to finish. And we need to make the plays when they can't we have done as reform five. We haven't made the plays when when they've been needed to be made whether it's Carolina whether it was last week whatever week it is we need to make those plays. Not just in the beginning. And we started some games pretty good. It doesn't matter sixty minute game. Dak Prescott sneak for clutch down or they were hurrying to get the live scoring defense. Many wasn't fully said is that how you view did. Is it something that you've addressed with team? Hurry up situation. We, you know, we just got to be ready to go when they put up all down. You know, we we sorta let a man without a whole lot of resistance there because we are sort of set to play in the end in the V gaps in actually misaligned one of those. You know, there's a lot of times where you get beat physically in the NFL, you know, a guy makes reception. You know, they got good players. We got good players. Sometimes that's the way it goes. Sometimes the guy, you know, make a nice run and break tackle as sort of the the basis of this league. But. That that's a particularly hard one swallow because we weren't set. We weren't ready to play right there. There's no excuse for them hurrying up. We have plenty of time. Communicates call on get set. We just we just weren't weren't there to do it. Place. You hoping he was going to be able to step into those doing so wide anybody at all. No, no, we liked. We liked vonda in that match. I thought he did a good job against Bailey. Most of the time they gave up one completion to him when he had it. But we like to we like Matic's matching up and not that we don't have confidence in and crave on. But that's just the way that that's just the way that we plan that game. Plus, we were getting Corey Graham back it just made sense the shrine accentuate that much vote. That was our our best. Our best match for slot door before us the way. It looks like we're going to have a bigger role out any play Sunday. And what does he need to do to fill that I played like a twenty seven to twenty loss. And that's the way the team played defense played that's the way he played. And I would say for anybody to play snaps on defense. That's the that's the way we played. We all need to play better. We only played a pass better. We all need to tackle better. As an individual for the rest of the way. He's got. He's got a lot of pride. He's got a lot of confidence. Hope he'll bounce back from it. But of course, of course, coming back from his hamstring. Mona don't wanna put position where it was too many snaps right in a row, we tried to manage that situation. Best. You guys are stretch pardon. I don't know. I thought we rushed really well the whole game. I mean, there was there was a lot of which is in our game plan that I just scratched at different points. Because it really didn't make sense we needed more help in coverage, and it didn't make sense to. But it's a lot of times because to form impasse. Rush was was was getting there. I was I wasn't as disappointed in the pass rush over the course of the game as I was to run defense, and that's not just a d line, but linebackers defensive bags defense coordinator position coaches, we all had we all have a hand in that. And that that that's why I was most disappointing. And that's where maybe local like we might have got run down a little bit tackling hasn't been as good. At least my vantage point is last got pretty good vantage point, very well. Why a lot of them are the same guys that are just attacking? I think I think a lot of tackling goes to positioning it goes to play in fast at goes playing confident. So I think that you know, I when you when you look at tackling, you you generally go there. I don't think we've I don't think we've looked as fast swarming defense. I think here's what happened. I think a lot of times last year. We would miss the same number tackles. But. We were just flying around so fast and guys were covering each other up. And I think that we got a lot of new faces and they're also working their way through playing off the other guy in his something. There is something to that sort of. You know, communication like offensive line knowing what the other guy's going to do. I think we got some some work to do there. There's no there's zero good defenses in the NFL that aren't good tackling defenses and Sunday night. We were not a good tackling defense. There. What do you mean? What needs to be better? All. That we haven't given up one. I now in three years playing defense. That was not that was not that. Nickel. Third and. Well, our yet. You don't want them to dump all naked. Frontal down either getting haven't haven't got any I on those on those on those calls. So I don't know what you're really talking about right there. I mean, the time like the end of the first half one that was man to man. I wasn't that wasn't soft zone. Ourselves. Own ourselves own is not. Salsa are our picket fence type defenses not been given a first down as it came was they had a fourth down short and fall starting. But remember saying sideline is at the time. That finally because I would I would include if you gave up enough yards on third down that they went for it on fourth converted. I would consider that have the defense being defeated. The biggest thing is, you know, we're certainly willing to give up ten yards. And we ran that same defense later and gave up to you. All calls. Look good. If they work also bad if they don't work. Why lifelock there? Well. Yeah. We have an Corey Graham for a month. And when he came he just came back last game. Not having Rodney, certainly changes things. We've taken approach put in two linebackers on the field. We did that almost exclusively in two thousand sixteen. We can still be successful. Whether we're nickel or dime. Last year really wasn't a choice as much as it was an assess ity, and we made it work throughout season gave us some flexibility. We can we can have that same flexibility in our nickel baggage. All the injuries. If you've got city Jones back this week. Would you play him still in the in the nickel or would you put him outside? Yeah. I think we'll cross that bridge when we when we get to it. We'll just we'll see where he is in practice week. He's got experienced both. So we'll just see how that goes. I would Mona. I wouldn't want to telegraph it either way. Generators many turnovers last year. You know, you guys worried about turnovers I'm worried about stopping the run. I'm worried about getting third down stops. We take care of those things turn overs. Come. Tackling. Yeah. I mean, you know, you have guys and in physicians to tack on again tackling a lot of times you guys look at it. As a one on one thing. I don't look on tackling a one on one thing not always that you know, the guy getting the guy down. But it's everybody else supporting him. So he doesn't have to make a two way tackle and different things like that. Plus, it's it's tough situation. Sometimes when a guy has to make a tackle when a ball is broken through our front seven. We didn't see very many of those in the past. We saw a couple of them on on on Sunday night. And I mean, I'll do respect Elliott's a great run back, but we shouldn't give up rushing yards. Like that. About as any quarterback. He's come along right now. You can't rush it. You can't cover as people completing seventy five percent up from that. Sakhnin times when when you look at the film. What I mean? How do you approach it? Well looked at the MS interception. Real. That was one. Yeah. It didn't take very long to get through sack. Real in the interception. Real is incompletions yet. Didn't take us long to get through those. You know, I think it's it's I mean, he's playing insane level right now. But it is sort of a trend of where the NFL is when I was a kid. If a quarterback complete fifty percent of his passes that was considered pretty good. If he had his many touchdown passes interceptions. You know, you know, you considered playing pretty good quarterback. And then it started becoming you need so twice as many touchdowns as interceptions, and then you need to complete sixty percent of your passes. And now pretty much everybody is like near that seventy percent. I mean, he's close. He's close to eighty seventy seven point something. How about twenty one to one touchdown interception? Is that the new I mean, he's made those things to new standards. Extremely accurate quarterback smart knows where to go with the ball. Still has good mobility Kim by time, we certainly have a work cut out for him. And he's got good players around him. And they're also I think it's maybe lost in the fact that he's played at such a high level. They're very good run team also Ingram camario doesn't matter who to handball off to they've been very consistent one team. Very good. Offensive line on. There's a reason that their number one number one scoring offense in the NFL. I dare anybody to say that they're seven faster eighth best everybody that that charts yards allowed and yards gained and everything else points business, and and they're putting up points like like like like nobody else. All. Should. Every week. There is. I mean. Sundance and letter to the editor on those thinking probably guys probably get a lot of those. I don't know. I mean every week there's there's a valuation. I I always watched the film three times. One time is evaluating the scheme and where where we broke down on a play. The next is is looking at individual players and how they played within this game. And then the last time I circle a circle back is like was this ineffective. Call is there? A better alternative in those situations. Nobody ever calls a perfect game. And you're it's always a matter of trying to figure out why something didn't work and have a better alternative for the future. I mean, I'm sure if you ask wait Phillips he would say the same things been around for about thirty seven years. I mean, he's got me by quite a few. Real quick. I would imagine that for you know, like I said, you guys know my stats what army points allowed takeaways because one is our ability to control the game by keeping points off toward the other one is either scoring on defense to help the offense or putting the offense imposition score. I mean, he's got he had a half capsule on his hand. But we got chance to have picked six early in that game didn't make the make play. Didn't didn't know? It mean the chance to to really get a lot of momentum on our side. And go those plays when they are there. We gotta make them. We can't we can't. Hunt those plays and chase those place. When you do you start giving them gaps in your on game. You start you start guessing on routes and you start looking bad in coverage. When you start chasing turnovers, we need to guard against those things. Like, I said if we do a good job stopping the run. We do a good job getting stops on third down turnovers turnovers. Come they're important to us. But it's one of those things the the harder you try to get them. Sometimes the more you press on and the less likely to get them. While hill. You got the two. Well, we face wildcat before. I think the thing it's a little bit of a different challenge with hill. Is that he plays quarterback? He plays running back. He plays tight and he plays wide receiver. So you know, you wear so many hats that you have to cover them all those aspects. I think that's probably you know, wildcat plays read option plays. Those are those are nothing new. It's all the different things you have to be prepared for him lining up as wide receiver. He's he can block like a fullback. He can block like a tight end. You know? So it does it gives you a little bit more. Did you have any more? How much are you limited schematically by all these injuries by having to play guys who have played all seasons. Schematically non we can we can run our whole our whole defensive playbook. How's it going? Seems to be cut of repeating itself that same friend, right? Will we've put a lot of energy and thought into it. And we know it's an area that we need to improve on. You've been able to do a lot better throughout the course of the game. And it's something that if it was one thing, it'd be an easy fix. But it's a little bit of this a little bit of that kind of everybody's is taking share that. And pointing things out that need to be corrected. And trust me when I say this, you know, we're we're spent a lot of time trying to get it fixed. Play scrimmage what what needs to be corrected there. What? Well, I mean, we got. Lawrence Scott got up, and I got an edge. I mean, Jack is part of the plan the outlet plan there but want to try to get contain there. A little bit on that was added RPO, and is so who who are wrong options on on that. No, it was not an RPO now. Later games. Just there's a looseness to his game that we don't see early on you see that as well. Describe looseness. Dodges said settle any seems to be just fling. It a lot care for you all about it. Just a little light early games balls or sale at all little. Yeah. I mean, certainly someone in the game nights of the night and a lot of production. And like I said a moment ago we want to to be able to do that from the very beginning of the game and everybody recognizes working diligent diligently towards. Corey. Mm Magus coverage. They're going sire what coaching went there. Yeah. I mean, it was a bang plays. As a lot of screens are where you can get it started a chance for big big play in. You know in this case it didn't work out. I made a good play. Tempo are reasonable didn't play as much as maybe you guys expected. Did you think that was the case you guys plan to play more? Yeah. I mean, we brought him here to plan a lot. And you know, how it is in the first week where he's just building the foundation, and we had thought a healthy package place that he was ready to run. He and the coaches work really hard to prepare to be ready to go in there. And coach mentioned some of that. You know, maybe taking away a little bit when we got in. And some of the no huddle stuff that we do and maybe limited play count a little bit. But we we had a healthy package. Plays form in will continue to build on that. In the first place so much eleven in so little twelve. I think it's just how the game on folded to be honest. Yeah. Sean India zone. There was he sitting global always. The communication there. Yeah. I think shine hesitated. Just slight ever so slightly as the defender played out into and I think just through the tiny off just just a little bit. I mean, both guys were really where we anticipated being meeting. Carson. And how Sean we just we just missed apply. Unfortunately, he gets though his continue. Where rally. Yeah. I mean, he was friendly right there in window, and like I said the defender caused a little hesitation there. And and I just threw off the timing. Just just enough. Scripted plays. What's your will play those games? Yeah. I'm not going to get into the specifics of how we go about our game plan that I play out a little bit more. So. Wasn't RPO. But Zach was not a primary target there. Right. We had Sean Elliott. I'm sure you guys watch watch tape of the game. So you we have both those guys in the perimeter out there. Yes. Yeah. To get Lawrence. He was on was on lords. He was on. He will he didn't need and have an assignment her. Guys. I mean, do you think that maybe I plight to lock in one of the best? I'd rushers the NFL something to consider for sure. Plays. Josh adams. Something. Yeah. We're thinking thanks from Josh. And he continues to. Warrant consideration for more playing time. I think that you know, have missed spring and most attorney camp he's really starting to to play his best ball and see Josh move forward. Has the transition Frank Reich Hewitt offense, coordinator, gone s merely as expected has that transition negatively affected the offensive. Well, sitting here with the record. I we have you know, we're not pleased with where we stand and we have aspirants to to compete for the playoffs. And I think that we still in the playoff hunt, and we can do that. And we've talked about some of the things that need to improve to give ourselves the best chance to do that. What's that would exact against? I wouldn't get into specifics of everything that we've identified that we need to get better at. Legis understand its collection is not one person. It's not one play. It's it's it's all of us. This is greatest team game that there is. So it takes all of us. No man is an island. And you know, we all know that we we gotta do better. Lenses every thirty six foot in the change of life set of Europe knowing. Well, it doesn't in the fact that we feel like we wanna score touchdown. Every time we have the ball. We're not trying to take any series off. And obviously, we know that they're playing at a high level. And you know, we understand a challenge in front of us. But our goal each. And every time we run out. There is the score touchdown often brought up importance of doing well during the Wednesday Thursday Friday, finishing during the end that will translate into how you knew during the game. So what he made of teams practice efforts. We've had we've had good prices. Good good energy at practice attention to detail and the guys have been invested each and every day, they come in here and diligent in meetings and and carry the teaching out of the practice field. So, you know, again, it's not just one little thing. But in terms of saying that we're not practicing while I wouldn't say that's accurate at all. Routed pretty close is he's clear outdoor. We could. I think Nellie would say could have gotten of the field little bit faster there on that one. The game Adams from the right? What could happen different there? We we loud penetration. And we're gonna shut that penetration down on the edge. And no, they got an edge on us in force, you know, penetrated, and they stop it Ron made a good play on the state avocation media. What you guys pile up yards at not yet over four hundred yards again of disaster. You that there's just a couple of plays that are making a difference here defeat the offenses functioning between the twenties. Yeah. I mean, we certainly are moving the ball. We're we're making first downs. And you know, we're creating explosive plays in and. But we're not doing it consistently enough. And we're not finishing enough drive. So that we're not scoring enough points. And until we're score more points. We're not gonna be satisfied in. So that's that's what we're working towards each. And every day. Everybody has that same intent. Present. Is there something that he can do better or you feel like you guys aren't capitalizing on his production? Yeah. I think it we would all stand here and say that we all need to do better. I don't want to speak for Carson. But. You know as an offense. We know that we all need to do better. Because what we're doing right now is isn't getting the results that we want. Space in del thought of that. Yeah. They'll be some things that we can do there with that. Yep. I think it's probably to be determined handed pens on the play. You know, what what the the play is it's called and what we're trying to get down with just trying to put guys in spots where they do the things that best. So we make that determination where it's it's a good play for golden. And then he'll be in there. Questions together. Is it have you guys explored the possibility that maybe went says that his best working in scripted plays? Maybe eat just more of a quarterback that likes to play in the moment where it's not as kind of premeditated. No, I don't I don't. I don't think that's the case. You don't have any evidence that would support the I mean all these plan all these plays on the game plan. And you know, they could get called at anytime during the course of the game. In fact, get repeated during during the course of the game. That's una playing really. Well. I mean, obviously. They're keeping the teams points down and they're getting the ball back for their offense. So they've got some talented players over there. And again, it's it's going to be challenging environments gonna be loud. And we we got to get a good plan put together and have a good week of practice. And and go down there and play eagle football. Yeah. We'll we'll prepare for quite a bit. 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BGN Radio #11: Eagles Defeat Colts 20-16 Recap

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BGN Radio #11: Eagles Defeat Colts 20-16 Recap

"Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention? I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. Of you. Listen. Hello, bleeding, green nation, and welcome back to another edition of BGN radio. This is episode number eleven. I'm John Stolnis. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis and are going to be breaking down the huge week, three eagles victory over the Indianapolis, Colts twenty two sixteen eagles get another squeaker at home, but they moved to two and one on the season two and at home and joining me to break down and analyze what we saw here on Sunday just about. We're recording about an hour after the game finished up is the great, Michael kissed, you know him from the Kistin Solex show and all the other things. He does here for bleeding, green nation, dot com. And BGN radio. You can follow him on Twitter at Michael. Kissed NFL Michael big win by the by the birds here on Sunday. How you doing buddy doing fantastic. Hello to you this the first podcast that we're doing together, I'm glad it's under these circumstances shadow to Derrick Barnett and Benjamin solar. I'm sure we'll get into that in a little bit. But yeah, man, big, big win a little bit of a sloppy win, but it w is. W could work on it from there once his back. All his right in the world. Yeah, and we're gonna get into everything we're going to get into the defense. We're getting it into the penalties. We're get into the offense and we're gonna get into Carson Wentz coming up here in just a minute. I want to just remind you to be a subscriber to the bleeding green nation podcast feed wanna, make sure you're doing that on apple podcast, Stitcher, Google podcast, Spotify, wherever it is you get your fine podcasting, go subscribe to the bleeding green nation podcast feed, and that's where you're gonna hear us. Yep, about this game because you know, like you said, Michael, it didn't look pretty. This was not a game that you're gonna put in the archives by any stretch of the imagination, but this was a victory. And as we always used to hear Andy Reid, say any victory you can get in the NFL is a good victory. And that's what we have. You know, this was a defense that we know plays better at home than on the road and that board self out here in the game on Sunday. But the thing obviously everyone is going to be talking about is how Carson Wentz looked. And honestly, there may have been a little bit of rust in there. Some. Where but it certainly was not there to start the game. And I gotta believe if he had a full complement of talent around him, we would've seen a much different ballgame here on Sunday as it is whence returns and goes twenty-five, thirty seven, two hundred fifty five yards with a touchdown and an interception. We saw a lot of good. We saw some bad in there. I think this is probably exactly what most people were expecting to see in his first game since last December a little bit uneven, but you saw the flashes, Michael. Yeah. And the scripted stuff early in the game was really working well. I like the way that we use the twelve and thirteen personnel tight end three tenants tight and sets with Dallas gutter who we've been screaming about Zach, ertz and Josh Parkinson's. I really count him as a wide receiver now says, I really don't line him up in line, but they were spreading it out the way I wanted. One of my keys to the game coming into it was to spread this defense results and take what was there because they're soft shells on defense, keep everything in front and then come in to attack the football. The reason that the Redskins weren't able to get points. On the board against them because they had a vertical game plan. So I liked it the way that the eagles put in some quick hitting throws for Wentz to kinda get comfortable everything in that beginning script looked looked fantastic. They March right down the field when they started to get beyond that opening script, you saw some Russ from Carson. You saw some some slow, read some, some missed wide receivers. You saw a couple high balls which were used to with once being, you know, particularly jacked up in the beginning of games so that that was there too. But then which also saw this dude is not going to change the way that he plays when it comes to scrambling around and trying to make plays in that, you know, lead to some sacks to some fumbles like you said, sloppy game, ten, ten penalties, one hundred ten yards, four fumbles. We lost one and it put the defense bad situations. But overall I didn't expect wants to come out and look like he was going to be Evie p form right away. But what we saw was encouraging looks like the Niyaz and bothering him at all. It's not causing any issues with his throwing motion or anything like that. He still moves around very, very well. So very, very encouraging signs from Carson Wentz who comes in and gives a big. W. today. And I know Brandon saw a lot of Carson Wentz during training camp and said, he looked amazing and Benjamin said the same thing when when he would watch him play during the during the summer and as we kind of got later into the preseason and some of the non contact drill that he was doing that he just he looked as athletic is as he could be and that the arm strength would was obviously there. And you know, there was some some wondering how would that bear out in game situations. But you mentioned at the f. lettuces them doesn't look like he suffered a knee injury at all. We saw him dance out of trouble on numerous occasions in this game to keep his eyes downfield exactly the same stuff we saw last year and it's just such an amazing even though he he didn't have a great day. When you look at the numbers, it's not going to be a day that you're gonna. Remember as being one of Carson Wentz his best ever. But when you look at the talent that he had around him and you consider the fact, this was his first game of the season, some of the plays that he made with his legs, some of the things, the playmaking ability that you see there just as it's so night and day compared to Nick. Foles the fact that he can extend plays when they break down like that. It's amazing to see what a the difference between Nick foles who performed admirably and a guy who is it looks like going to be an MVP candidate every year from here on out just just on what he can do on the field. Yeah. And the other thing not only just extending place, much better than foles can do falls gifts roll into his right and things start to get ugly from there. But once extends but he also challenges tight windows and I also put this up on bleeding, green nation dot com. I believe it was on Saturday about how using NFL next gen stats. You could see how this offense was going to change and the lack of separation that we're getting from the wide receivers and tight ends that we have right now because we are so depleted in that area. Foles was not as willing nearly as willing as wants to challenge those tight. Windows doesn't have the same arm, strength as Wednesday does, and that's what we saw today was whence was, you know he was putting his players in a position to go make a play on the football, even if. The coverage was tight, and you saw him throw some through some strikes in some windows that foles would have doubled tripled clutched on, especially the tip obey buccaneers game or held the ball for an average of two point, nine two seconds. So overall, you still saw a quarterback who was aggressive in his mentality in that something that this offense needs to enhance the talent around him and bring it up. Rising tides result boats type situation with him because he's a quarterback that you win because of. So he's still that same quarterback despite the Russ in all those things, he's still going to go out there and make some place at other quarterbacks just simply can't make our won't make right. And once in a while he's gonna ease gonna force. The turnover like he did on the interception on the pass intended for. Earth's tried to get it through a tight window as an ill-advised pass. He obviously should not thrown it, but he's going to convert more of those probably than he's gonna allow to have interceptions and when you're a gunslinger I know that's he fancies himself as a guy who likes to take risks, and we didn't see this team go down the field all that much in this game. A lot of it was was intermediate stuff. It was. It was within ten fifteen yards. But they don't really have the personnel to go deep right now. So I thought it was. I thought it was important that, like you mentioned at the beginning that they played a lot of thirteen personnel. If you're going to consider Josh Perkins a tight end at this point, but that we saw hurts and got a lot out on field today and you know, just slow clap, forgot her seven catches for seventy three yards and a touchdown. In this one, you see, you need to have him in the game plan. Michael. I mean, he needs a guy. He needs to be a guy that is going to be a big part of the game plan every week because especially while Sean Jeffrey is out and especially until they if they go out and get Jeremy Macklin this week and they get him up to two game spear whatever. They're gonna, be short at wide receiver. It's not a big mystery. Why wide receivers didn't really have any any numbers today? Why they didn't get a lot of attention. They're not good. They don't really. They don't have the personnel there right now. So Erz and Goddard is that's how you have to operate. If you're the eagles right now, they're kind of makeshift with how they're doing their wide receivers right now as well. And some guys are playing a little out of position. You know, we brought in Jordan Mathews. Who had two catches in and twenty one yards today, people are acting like he was gonna get sixty staps you kind of knew that wasn't the case. If you really thought up a heating, even playing the slot, it was Agla playing slot for the most part and he had a quiet day to, like you said, the game plan against this colts defense that would that soft-shell and taken away the deep pass and keeping everything in front, what they had to do was to execute and just take the plays that were there. And there were couple of times that that one's got a little more aggressive than he should have, but what the eagles were really good at doing was sitting in those off zones. And there were there were times I think it was the first drive. It was twelve plays seventy nine yards. And then you've got the last drive in the fourth quarter that was seventeen plays seventy plus yards. Eleven minutes and eight seconds. That's what the colts defense was going to force us to do. So I'm not worried about the lack of downfield shots. That's just a construct of the way that the colts play their defense. You have to execute. They're gonna make you go, fifteen plays. Eleven plays. Seventeen plays down the field and. Execute the entire way. And if you make a slip up or penalties cost you on your drive, like you saw a lot from there from the eagles or there's a drop or something in there, they end up with a sack, any kind of sloppy play like that from the offense. They really capitalize on that and get you in long down in this situation. So the eagles had the good in that and being able to do that on a couple of their drives. But then they kinda stalled out in the middle of the game was m- sloppy play. But overall, again, with the weapons that were dealing with whence came out played well, thought Dallas Qatar played really well, and that's a guy that we can get on the field and we can run the ball with him on the field to not like we can with Josh Perkins, you get him Zakar, it's you get those double wing looks and you run the ball affectively behind him. That's perfectly fine. And if you can get that running game going, you get yourself and plus situation just compla- action little bit. The offense is going to be better for that. So I'm glad to see that Doug Peterson, read the tweets and Todd got out there. Well, and you mentioned the fact that you can play guttered when you're when you're running the ball well, and the eagles obviously ran the ball well today, too, is. Listen to runningback unit is banged up, but that was a huge help to Carson Wentz on that last drive, you saw you saw Wendo small wooden clery commit, get big runs to keep the drive alive and the colts also shot themselves in the foot a little bit on that final drive to with a couple of important defensive penalties that helped eagles out. But I think one of the biggest revelations on the day to me was Wendell Smallwood. Michael ten carries fifty six yards. Some big runs. I mean, obviously he's he's has some holes in his game, but he also caught three balls for thirty five yards. He's he doesn't have great vision. He's not the most athletic guy in the world, but for this game, at least for one game, at least he was he was a real plus out there and and led. The team led the team in rushing yards actually tied with Corey Clemente who also had fifty six yards on sixteen carries, but five point six yard per carry for window small today. Listen, I mean, that's just that's stealing money. I mean, that's that's, you know, icing on the cake. You don't expect to get that from window small would. I was very close to my prediction. Said that climate would get fifteen carries a small would would get eight. I figured that was the distribution. They, they were going to go and look. The way that we talk about Wendell Smallwood has been changed so much over time just because he hasn't been available when he was on the field before he's an adequate running back. He's nothing special. He's not bad though. People are talking about him as if he's a bad running back, people are upset with him because he can't get on the field. That's the core of the issue when he's on the field. He's perfectly capable and he's, you know, he's a favorite of juice daily because he can. He can be affective in this offense. Now, again, not going to get these big door busting runs out of them, but he can be officiant. He was today, and he also showed up in the passing game, getting thirty four yard, big time, catchy, ran right up into the open, but yet the the combination of Clement Smallwood and Josh Adams who got his his first real action today really impressive. And that's really all we need with them with a quarterback. Carson Wentz as once starts to get his sea legs under him. And we start to acclimate and get some of our weapons back. Just an effective run game, just just don't put us in in negative situations because we can't get that established. That's what you saw from Clement and smaller. That's what we need right now. I can't wait to get JJ Bax JJ but the running backs to good job today. And I commend the for yen and a little bit of a heads up to Josh Adams, you know, thirty yards on six attempt. He had a twenty six yard carry in the second quarter. Got a little bit. You said a Josh Adams in this one too. So it was. It was definitely much needed for Carson. 'cause you know, hey, listen. I mean, Carson wasn't gonna I didn't. I thought Carson, which start off rusty or than he did, but you're right. Having those he, they really worked on those scripted plays during the course of the week, and you could tell that's when he was at his most comfortable until that final drive when when they when they methodically moved down the field. And you know, we saw last year with Carson Wentz to one of the biggest reason that he was successful was converting on third down specifically, third and long and converting in the red zone, and the eagles had a couple opportunity. They didn't convert on every red zone opportunity. But on that final drive, when you. You need seven, you get seven. There you go up for you force Indianapolis to also have to get into the end zone on their next possession. That's a whole different ballgame. It's the eagles were playing a bend, but don't break defense, hippie what they do when they're in cover three. But you had a feeling that the eagles needed seven on that drive in order to really ice this thing away because that forces the colts to have to go the length of the field that's much bigger hurdle mentally for an offense when they know we gotta get it in the end zone here on this last drive. So I mean, that's that's one of the things that makes that made Carson Wentz. So good last year was converting inside the red zone and they did that on the final drive as well. Yeah, I'm you see that in their play calling to, they know when they're going to go for it on fourth down. I think they know by second Downer when they hit a certain area of the field that you know in this situation, we're definitely we can take third and six or a third and twelve and get a six yard gain and be totally fine with that because we know it's going to be hard to get twelve yards in a single play against this defense. You saw the play calling kind of acclimates what the colts were doing defensively. Of course Carson, you know, he's going to be able to fit it in those windows in the situations. And you know, shout out to the to the colts defense for executing, really, really well on their end and making it hard for the eagles to convert those third along situations. I believe it was a third and long and the colts were running to high safety, which is so weird with me cooker though, because he's a deep, third safety. Awesome. At is run more cover three, but whatever police was a half hield safety on the other side of the field and sprinted over to the other side to the other safeties responsible area and was able to just get his hand on a pass that was intended for Aglona third long, a heck of a play Darius Leonard, resign all over the place. Margus hunt was really disruptive, and I give him a lot of credit because I was doubting his affect in this coming into the game. He had to get game. 'cause like Bobby Hart. And you know, some bums like that. But he, he played really well overall, this colts defense while they be may be vanilla. They force you to execute, and they also are able to make some splash plays here there. But. But yet overall in the red zone, you know the the missed field goal by Jake Elliott always hurts. And that's something that I think were increasingly going to talk with about Elliott because some of MRs just absolutely baffling and we got a cash in on his opportunities in the less we can trust him the more we have to go for it in those situations, the more stress it puts on this offense. Yeah, I mean that sixty one yard or that was week three of last year. So it's been about calendar year since at sixty one yard, but it gets a little bit more dicey. I mean, we've seen with kickers. I mean, it can go, it can go really quickly and you know he has that he has at mid range area. It seems like between thirty and thirty seven thirty eight yards where it's all it's awfully dicey in this. His miss kick today obviously was longer than that. But yeah, with Elliot, we've seen Mike, we've seen it in the league this year. We've seen kickers just have an all kinds of problems right now. Two two teams kick their kickers off their rosters because of brutal brutal play last week in third because of an injury had to go out and sign somebody else. So there's there's not a lot of talent out there. You're hoping Jake Elliott. Can turn it around, but man, some of these you wanna have confidence in your kicker, and we saw at the end of last year, I mean that huge kick at the end of the Super Bowl to put him up. Eight was a money kick. You know that he has it in him to be a money kicker. It's just a matter of him being able to do that all see, also missed an extra point in that game too. And I say, I have to go back and rewatch this game. I think something may have gone wrong with the snap in this game, but still, we know it's an issue. This is this is nothing you know. Now for sure, offensive line wise seemed as though there was some, you know, especially on the winds, fumble deep in his own territory or lane. Johnson got school a little bit. We saw Jason Peters with a couple of false starts. Seems like you know the did okay in the run game, but it was a little bit inconsistent and with pass protection, we saw Carson was running for his life. If you times, what are your thoughts on the offensive line and how they handled culture pressure today? Yeah, that's something I really want to see the film for for certain things. I do think that Jason Peters is still dealing with. The knock right now and is a little bit rusty since he hasn't played meaningful football in a while. He's just coming back. But some of some of the false starts as has got to be more in tune with the offense there. I think it'll be fine in that overall, though, you worry about the lettuces them because I don't think he's at the level of athlete that he was before the injury last year. And I don't know if that's because of the injury that he's dealing with right now or because of the injury that he that the past major injuries that he's had just sapping his athleticism and his age still adorn effective player. But you do worry about that and it's something attract long-term, the five sacks. What I wanna see from the film is, you know, were they wasn't particularly paying too much attention on it, but were they three step drops that Carson just held onto the ball bit more you no longer than he should have were? Were there open routes in front of him because he did miss some open routes in front of him being a little Russell rusty mentally after those scripted plays like we talked about or were they longer drop. So it was a. Product of, you know, holdings of the ball on some cricketing things where they got a jump set and they feel like they only have to hold that block for a couple seconds and they can work from there as bad as that sounds because you know, you've got Carson behind you. You have to block a little bit differently for Carson because he's going to be all over the place. Maybe he runs his his impression every now and then, but you know, Carson's not gonna change. In that matter. You can't ask them to change. He's always going to be like that. And there's going to be a big discussion around Carson. Does you need to calm down? He's not going to. So we need to stop asking him to. But yeah, you know, overall, like you said in the run game, the offense of line was fine, pass protecting that. Something that I would look into a little bit more and probably be put some clips on the time line and whatnot. But overall thought it was solid. I think they can play better in pass protection though. I will say that, well, let's just finish up the offense talking about just mentioned as Doug Peterson, you know, a lot of talk coming into the week about, you know how much she would miss Frank Reich, or you know whether or not that the, you know what? Frank. Rex absence from being part of the coaches room was having eagles offense. Held the clock for forty and a half minutes in this one, three hundred seventy nine yards scored twenty points, but you know, they didn't have a giant. They didn't have sproles Jeffrey Wallace and a couple of new guys in there. That's that's not bad, you know, and you've got a quarterback who hadn't played since since last December. Certainly not a bad effort there by by Doug Peterson, trying to guide his team through a game that you know, I think a lot of past eagles teams would have lost this game. This is a team. This is a championship team. These are the defending Super Bowl champions into come out and win a game. Like this is the kind of games they won last year that that helped them run their record to thirteen and two before that last game of the year against Dallas that that didn't really count. Let's flip it over to the defense now, Michael. And obviously, the guy we have to talk about first is the guy that Benjamin Sollac obviously would never want us to talk about. I saw about Derek bar net one and a half sacks, including the huge clincher on fourth goal with a minute nineteen left from the eagles for Doug Peterson said, after the game, you can see the kid getting better every week. We've all been waiting for it, Michael. I know you guys talked about it this week. You know, when we're going to see Derek Barnett actually make an impact. When were we going to actually see him make a play that a first round draft pick would make, and for this game, at least and for this one play at least Derek Burnett stepped up and made a play that absolutely had to be made. Yeah. And there's a couple of ways I could go with this at Barron, but I'll try to be try to be kind of fair with him. I could hold his feet to the fire and don't be fair. What fun is that come on now, I was saying to where was reporting week one. He was sure we all were weak too. You know, he had a plus matchup with Donald Smith, not. Not very good for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and he was a ghost and and we gave him a pass because the Fitzpatrick got rid of the ball and an average of two point two seconds. He was a, you know, on his third step in his first hitch and the ball was out seventy one percent of the time by my charting. So hard situation for him to get to the quarterback. They still got the quarterback thirty eight percent of the time. A lot of that was Blecher Cox, but Barnett still was a ghost for that game in run game. He played really well against the buccaneers wanna make that clear. One thing that Eric Barnett has always been is absolutely clutch and goes from college too. And we know it comes up with the strip sack in the NFC championship game recovers the fumble in the Super Bowl, those same type of situations that he's come up, big for the eagles of the same type of situations that he came up big for the volunteers in college. So he tends to to show up the situations that's never been his problem. His problem has been, he has not beaten us a solid tackle cleanly, and you know he's trying different moves and he's trying these spin moves and whatnot, and in a never come off, right? This is the week that we said with Anthony Costanzo out at left. Hackel LeBron Clark, you know, supplanting him out there who's a subpar talent. We needed to see something from Derek Barnett and boy, thank goodness. It came at the game. So he had he had to half a sack on a nice speed to power. Got a nice bull, rush and got that half the sack with Fletcher. Cox was still awesome. By the way, love ultra Knox had another great game. He's been excellent all season, but then it's events player the year man. Oh, he wants a bad. Yeah, he's really working towards. You looks awesome. But, yeah, I mean situation, he beats Reverend Clark clean, good anticipation on the snap gets that first step and as able to bend around that corner and just trips up. Andrew luck enough. So big time shout out to Derrick Barnett. I know a lot of people were asking me 'cause we said on the show if they're cornet got a sack Benjamin so lack would by Derek Barnett jersey. People are forgetting that we set a spin sex at something he really wants to hit that was not a spin sacks, no, no jersey for Benjamin select, but still suck at Benjamin select because Dr. Barnett showed up in a big time situation so he couldn't couldn't be more happier for them. Maybe he should get a sure z. you know, maybe we can kind of go have here, make him get assures e or something like that. Yeah. The big thing about the defense today was not so much. You know that they didn't really give up much of anything long. Andrew luck twenty five of forty only one hundred sixty four yards. Andrew luck with one touchdown. Certainly the yards per attempt there. I didn't look that number up, but that's not that's not terribly good. I could do the division with a pen and paper, but they kept TY Hilton. Check a week after Sean Jackson and OJ Howard, burn them for big games. The tackling was a lot better in this game. They didn't really let anybody get them. Deep Jalen mills, of course, got called for a pass interference on a on a long play. But I mean, you just kind of have to bake that into the cake when it comes to Jalen mills, he's he's gonna, get beat on a double move, or he's going to get along interference, call every week, no matter what. But what you see with this team and it's really amazing, especially at home with when they're when they're at home and they're backed up inside. Side, the twenty, and they use that goal line like it's a brick wall, Michael. I mean, they, they backed up to that thing and they just they don't allow teams to convert red zone opportunities for touchdowns, and they got really hamstrung with a couple of short fields. Thanks to a Carson interception and a fumble that they lost and the defense came through and held Indianapolis to feel goals each time that was the game. Really. That's the key to this game. They were able to keep Andrew luck out of the end zone and we saw Jalen mills, make a terrific play on the end zone in the end zone breaking up a pass for Ibran bronze. So this was a game in which the eagles defense again bend, but don't break. They don't get in receivers faces, but when when opposing offenses run out of real estate, the eagles defense is at their best. Yeah, it's interesting too, because the entire landscape of this game changes there were those three drives back to back to back where they were in the red zone on the I, two of them just a Rogers had to. Plays where he could haul in two touchdowns of those two different drives, and he doesn't. And that's an eight point swing. And that changes the score from a potential, the thirteen to ten and at four points on both of those drives for the touchdown. You're at twenty one ten colts as you go into the fourth quarter, that's an entirely different ballgame and moving the ball down down the field on the colts is gonna take time like we talked about with the way that they play their defense or was that he dropped those. But on the third on the third one and all the other plays around that the defense showed out and Sidney Jones showed up big time in that situation as well too big plays for him back to back. He has been playing, absolutely lights out. I'm sure there's going be calls for him than people want him to replace Jalen those on the outside. I think the eagles showed again today when Ronald Darby went down in week one, it was Russell coming into play outside. When Jalen mills went down a for a couple of plays in this game. It was received again playing the outside. Think that's more likely to for them to try out rather than move Sydney from plus six. Situation where he's killing it. But yeah, him the red zone defense itself has won two games this year for the Philadelphia Eagles. Jim Schwartz has got to be feeling himself. He needed that after the loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers more impressive for me just from an overall perspective, and we talk about what was the plan for Schwartz last week against the bucks. Because in my opinion it wasn't a good one, but this week against the Indianapolis Colts they did with needed to do they added more underneath zones because they knew that was going to get rid of the ball quick. It's quick hitting west coast style system that they have there. They added more underneath zones. They took away and muddied that I read, they were mugging and sugaring blitzes and dropping out and and making him come off and and whatnot. And I thought it was. I thought it was an impressive game plan that was very effective for the most part outside of a couple of big plays. The even had it in there were on the Andrew lucked scramble where he was able to get thirty three yards. That was that was a good play by the eagles and they saw something pre snap to where all the sudden everyone's jumping up and down in audibly to a bliss because they. I saw something that they liked, and Jim Schwartz trusted his defense to audible into like a big full out blitz at at that situation. So that was pretty cool to see him having that flexibility and saying, if you see this, then go ahead and send the dogs. So I like that mentality. But yeah, a big time performance for the defense. They only allow sixteen points. You can win any game, or the defense only allowed sixteen points in its in its critical as we get once back and acclimated and feeling like himself that the defense shows up like that. And this eagles defence at home as just is just awesome. Overall, in my have a couple blips here and there. But the overall picture is Sonny. I know we talked about this a little bit with with Brandon on the preview show, but any. I mean, and you tell you and Benjamin talked about it a little bit, but you know, what is the deal with the home road splits with the defense? I mean, it really is remarkable the we didn't see the defensive line, get a ton of pressure all game long. But like I said, when they got when when the colts got far enough, obviously the red zone defense stepped it up. But you know, they weren't able to do that last week against the buccaneers a couple of different times when they got inside the red zone. I just don't know what it is is, you know, is it crowd noise? I mean, 'cause I didn't see the the crowd was not exactly at full throat here in this game against the colts either. I can't put my finger on it. Yeah, I think it helps the pass rush because you guys like Derek Barnes and Michael, Michael Bennett who are known to key in on cadences throughout the game and really time there blitzes to get an advantage. So there's that part of it. Other than that, outside of that, I just, I don't. I don't get it and they, they asked him swertz about it in his press press conference. And he was like, I don't know. It helps the pass kind of off, but. I don't know if it helps anything else. I don't think getting on a plane changes anything. So super weird. It's it's like this phenomena that no one can really put their finger on, but outside of the pass rush, I don't. I don't really think it affects anything. Maybe it was just weird that we ran up against a an offense, Tampa Bay that is performing like it is. And maybe if you go through that that small sample sizes, things Schwartz, said he goes overall. When you look at it, you know it's kind of a small sample size to extract some conclusions from. So maybe we'll see it maybe regressed to the mean as we continue through the season. I mean, I hope it does for for the away defense because it's been, you know, pretty pretty scattershot. So that'll be something detract still. And if it continues to happen, then you know, we'll definitely have more questions for for Mr. short-sea what we're still waiting for the eagles team to play a really clean even game here. So far, three pretty ugly games, uneven games. But at two one record is is what you want. But let me just real quick. Let's talk about the penalties because another ten penalties called against the eagles for one hundred ten yards. They now have twenty seven penalties called for to sixty six after three games. And this is a team that is usually pretty disciplined. I mean, this is not. This is not a team that I don't think last year was. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I don't. I don't remember this team being heavily penalised last year, but and I know the league is calling a few more things now than they were last year. But can you put your finger on the penalties? Is this just kind of because the eagles are lacking some some stability, some important positions, like running back wide receiver and it's maybe fouling timing up on the lines or is it just a lack of attention to detail what's what's going on here? Yeah. I mean, you could you could put some of it on some guys playing in positions that they normally wouldn't in some situations that normally wouldn't also remember, you know, they've been into really close games and another game where they were trying to catch up. So some guys are trying to make plays, and you know doing some things that they normally wouldn't do. That's outside of the discipline that they've been. They've been coached, I'm sure it's going to be a focus for Doug Peterson moving forward. At the end of the day, you know, you win and ugly. I'm like that, and you can kind of let it slide because the result is there, but you can't just keep playing Russian roulette like that. We got his stopped shooting ourselves in the foot because it's it's just not sustainable. So yeah, I mean, you need some luck, but don't don't put yourself in a situation where you continually kill yourself on those drives. Because like I said, against the coast drives needed to be long, they needed to execute on every play, continue to move the ball, and some of them were just killed by by lack of discipline. One of the great things about Carson Wentz though, and his ability to convert third and longs as that he makes up for some of those -fensive penalties. You know, when when when the offensive line is called for a holding, there's an illegal hands to the face or something like that. A lot of times Carson himself can make that up and it's that's, that's really where a lot of his value comes is he covers up for so many mistakes, and a lot of those are penalties that are called on his offense of teammate. So one last thing before we before we finish up here, Michael, looking around the NFC it was kind of a rough day for a bunch of team. We saw the saints beat the falcons forty three thirty seven, but I don't know if you saw the end of that game. The falcons had a touchdown lead over the saints and drew Brees was was running trying to buy time running to the outside. And as he's running toward the left's toward the far sideline was met by by two falcons Clair's and some. Pulled off a spin move outta his rear end. I don't know how he did it. Diving into the end zone. The saints went onto to win the game, Ryan and breeze might for ten touchdowns in that game for crying about the saints, moved to two and one falcons one and two. The Panthers beat the Bengals in a real good match up by ten, the giants beat the Texans twenty seven, twenty two down in Houston. Texans, where my pick to win the AFC south. They're Owen three. Now giants at one and two. We saw the Niners adult a tough blow here on Sunday. Jimmy Garoppolo not only did they lose to the chiefs, but Garoppolo carted off has an ACL tear looks like he's going to be out for the season and then game. I had to watch a lot of here living in northern Virginia was Washington, actually, spanking Green Bay was not even close Washington dominated the Green Bay Packers in a rainy field at at FedEx. So you got the Vikings get and the Vikings got hammered by the bills bills. So all of these teams in the NFC we came into the season thinking men. There's a lot. Juggernauts here, but I'm not. I'm not so sure that some of these teams aren't coming back to the pack a little bit. Certainly here early, some of the results are mixed. I'll try to keep all these games in my head as I run down this list. But number one on Derek par net could use some use use us some tips from drew Brees on the spin. Yeah, number l. and enter the saints. Defense is terrible. Aspen, Raleigh, wow, all year. And it's very surprising, but not really surprising if you lose the quarterbacks they played during their hot stretch from, I believe, week three to week ten last year. And then they went back to a little bit of their struggling ways and started to get leaky again. But if you saw the list of quarterbacks that they played, it wasn't good. So maybe they're a bit of a paper tiger that something to to watch number two, terrible for Jimmy g. that's awful. Yeah. You never wanna see that you and in a league that needs quarterbacks and quality quarterbacks and guys like patched Mahomes who just said a NFL record for throwing thirteen touchdowns in his first three games. I it unique guys like that in the NFL to to make an exciting product. I don't care if they're, you know, an opposing and of c team or not as absolutely awful. And you know, you get another wasted year where call Shanahan is unable to make a difference in the NFL most likely cause at that's fun. If you start to get him in the mix, that's just good football. So awful to see. You hate to see it. The Minnesota Vikings had one less yard than the Buffalo Bills had points by the half, twenty seven and nothing. They had twenty six yards of offense. They didn't get to the red zone. I believe until the fourth quarter the Vikings did. So you know, their offense of line is not good, not many people were talking about me and Ben kind of talked about in the Aussies. They're starting to lose some guys. They're starting to have to trade for guys like Brett Jones was backup center for the giants, and it might not be so good for them in that defense has got torched by Josh Allen. Nobody saw that coming whatsoever. Not even a big, Josh Allen fan, but kudos to him. Yeah, his hurdles. Thank you, Josh, Allen. Thanks for the help. But yeah, then you look around to the Washington Redskins weak one. They were competent against the Zona cardinals and took care of business good for them week two. There were absolute, no show like we talked about the hit the wrong game plan against the colts in it, stifled their offense, and they weren't able to do anything just a complete no-show. And then week three, they come out, lay the woods, the Green Bay Packers and and beat up on them a little bit. So I if I'm looking at it contender than it's probably them, I don't care about the giants beat the Texas. The Texans just don't look like the football team overall right now Watson still working on back, work himself back from that injury. He'll be fine down the road, same same as Carson Wentz. But yeah, I mean, you know, Watson doesn't have the defense that we have here in Philly, especially at home, so they're gonna struggle bit. And then I did see bright before we started recording that the the Dallas Cowboys replaying the Seattle Seahawks zero zero. And Earl, Thomas recovered a fumble that was actually an interception. So they are definitely salty about that in Dallas guy that they obviously wanted to trade for Earl, Thomas. A big play on. So we'll continue to watch those games kinda recording the middle of the four o'clock games, and I'm sure we'll be talking about it tomorrow. But yeah, fun stuff around the NFC. Maybe it's not the the bloodbath that everybody -ticipant well, it's the same way, and I say this every time the eagles schedule comes out and team start looking ahead at the schedule for that year, and people start getting worried about individual teams. I think when you're looking at a schedule look at, okay, how when how many short weeks does the team have? How many cross country flights do they have? Those things are things that you can look at. But if you're looking at the individual teams that I mean when when you looked at the scheduled to start last year, you saw that Denver game at home and you thought that's gonna be a tough game to turn out to be the case. I mean, there's lots of games you saw the Rams game on your schedule in LA. Think that's easy. Didn't turn out to be the case. Always happens in the NFL teams that you think aren't going to be good at the start of the season. Some of them turn out to be excellent. And some teams you think are gonna be really good. Turn out, not to be just kinda left to let the schedule play out the way it's going to play out. Oh, speaking of which before we go, the team we play next. Tennessee titans played without played with and without I believe Marcus mariota. I wasn't even really paying attention, but they beat the, they beat the Jaguars Jaguars for a darling for a lot of people after they beat the patriots last week. So the NFL is a a helter skelter business and consistency LT wins the day this the eagles gotta clean up. Some of these sloppy issues that they have. You are right. The titans did beat the Jaguars bet. I'm not. I don't know how impressive I call it nine six two game. And yes. Mariota twelve eighteen for one hundred yards and Blaine gabbert had three pass attempts for reasons passing understanding the freight yards. I don't know. Maybe mariota went out for a little bit in that game, but I think I'd Gabbard got hurt in mariota came in and then they just went like real run heavy because of the issue is that Marietta. They were waiting for him to get feeling back in his hand, which has never. She was, yeah. Well, so bad. They're playing the low score. There. It was well, listen, not eagles win this one. Twenty two sixteen move to two and one on the season. Michael. Any final thoughts before we wrap up the recap addition, BGN radio Yemen, just happy to be two in one right now with everything going on with this team. You know the potential Super Bowl hangover that they could've gone through. They had to really, really close wins, and then a close when are close loss that they call themselves back into after going down early, the seem as mentally tough and their Bill to win these types of games. They've been there done that, which is good. A lot of things run the NFL that have that losing culture don't quite know how to win. These close games would have dropped both of those games. So as many concerns we have about the eagles as many injury issues that we're dealing with right now where we're going to get over those things, we're going to get better. Carson Wentz going to get better as season goes along. And and right now we've got a winning winning percentage. So you know, you can't really. You can't really fault too much there, and I am happy that we're, we're getting teams like the Colton titans here during the stretch winter. We're missing alshon Jeffery, Jay. And I know everybody's hoping that at least one, if not, both of those guys is ready to go in week four against the titans that will do it for this edition of BGN radio. Thanks to to Michael kissed again, follow Michael on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL and you can follow me on Twitter at John. Stolnis. Thanks everybody for tuning in. 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Living For The Lost

The Dirtbag Diaries

51:23 min | 2 years ago

Living For The Lost

"We're in business to save the planet, and we use making close to do that for over forty five years Patagonia has committed to taking responsibility for their impact on the environment by pioneering sustainable, practices and inspiring other businesses to do the same the cure for depression action. Every one of us has to step up and do what you can according to what your resources are how to Goania in business to save our home planet. Join us. To the drawback dairies production of duct tape and beard with additional support from clue at racks because you love your binding and kicking horse coffee. Wake up and kick ass. Patty. And Elizabeth if it's very welcome to the diaries. Thanks. Thank you. So for those of you who do not know duct tape and beer this last year's about nine months ago. It's been nine months guys. It feels maybe like a decade though. Right. Elizabeth longer. What saying is it? It's just well, the episodes have been coming out for about nine months, but we've been working on it for over a year. It's awesome. It's a ton of. It's a ton of words that fun working with me, Patty. It's the best working with you. That's better. That's better. Okay. Just want people to know, what's the basic premise of safety third. Well, basically safety third is a show about ideas force through venture. And we talked to people prior to a belief being formed that we talked about what form that belief. And then they tell us about their life moving forward with that belief and through humor. I think that we arrive at some point city recently, basically, there was a story that that we thought was worth sharing. Ng across all our platforms because it it just it was one of those moments where doing this for a long time talked to a lot of people. And this interview guys ran being there for it. I was kind of blown away by it. And it just it just I felt like more people should hear it. You know, you guys have been doing awesome across the board. But but this one seemed to stand out for a lot of different reasons. Can you tell us about it? Yes. So Josh Jespersen. He's a snowboarder, and he kind of burst onto the scene when he became the first person to climb and snowboard off of all of Colorado's fifty four fourteen thousand foot mountains, but he also hit like incredibly fast like an a single winter and spring. I think it was just a little bit over four months that is seriously motivated, and there's a lot of risk management involved with that. And in the ski and snowboard mountaineering community. It was kind of a big deal. But there was. Mortgage Josh than just this athletic feet. Josh is a navy seal, and he's been an advocate slash activist for veterans and for climate change. And it seemed like you guys found a little bit more than that. Yeah. I mean, we've found a story of a person who's lived through really terrible loss from a very young age. And somehow he's managed to turn it into this profoundly positive way of living. So we ran it on safety third. But he thought we should also run it here. Yeah. For sure means like I said earlier sitting to this interview was was something. I will never forget. So you guys ready? I think that this is actually a good moment to point out that if you will are a person with young years, it might be good to hit pause and save this for another time. Is a really good point. Thank you, Elizabeth. Okay. So I'm fits I'm Elizabeth on Patty. And you're listening ups are laid a second. I'm sorry. It's so used or no. Here you do it. You can get and you're listening to the dirt bag diaries and safety third whose theme music are we in a run dirtbag is obviously what Elizabeth where on their feed where a guest pain up Beth. I grew up in north northeast north central Pennsylvania way out in the country. Most most of the years, I grew up was in a small quakertown called millville is like population nine hundred people way out in the woods. Farming is rural rural community kind of kind of super country super redneck where I grew up in the in the in the best way of the term not. Well, how would you describe the best the best version of that term? There's a lot of people that, you know, eat deer meat to get by. There's a lot of people that are just scraping by on whatever jobs. They can there's obviously people where I grew up that do well, but it's kind of just like a low income area, and, you know, people kind of live more in nature in with the outdoors in a different way than a lot. Other people who recreation outdoors can even fathom, you know, like, yeah. Like, they kind of they kind of live in breezy outdoors, rather than just are fueled by the outdoors. So Josh was a happy kid who's outdoorsy really athletic and into sports. He was pretty carefree. According to Josh he had a great childhood. You know, basically when I was a kid like my dad was my hero. I did I did everything everything to impress him. He was like my soccer coach, you know, signed me up wrestling. I did every sport as hard as I possibly could to, you know, show him my worth like show him like a, I'm I'm I'm good, son. I can do all these things, you know, to level that's going to keep you proud. And you know, every time I'd score goal or whatever he had this funny thing, you could say like, that's my boy is you know, to whoever was around him. Like, really, really proud. You know like that kind of proud proud, proud dad thing. That's my boy. Yeah. Yeah. And so God, I mean oh. I try my hardest to hear that as many times as I could. My dad wanted to take me hunting is father something, you know, at some point we're at a gun shop, and we picked up the rifle that was going to use is a lever action thirty thirty kind of almost an antique gun. It was like decades old. I I'm a went out hunting was with my mom, actually, he's my dad was at work. We went out small game hunting like for squirrels, and rabbits and stuff and. Because we lived way out in the country. We just always had to do is walk out our back yard 'cause I've also we're backed up to ten thousand acres of state game land while and deer season came up. And so my dad, and I went out hunting one day. So like, I said we just walked out of the back of the house and. He didn't grow up hunting. So he didn't really know much about it. Or you know, exactly how to hunt like where to go sit or or how to drive deer. How to archery your hunt, you know, wait for deer, whatever the different types of hunting. He didn't really know we were just kind of walking out in the woods. I remember walking out a couple of hours, and we sat on this tree. And we had lunch together we kept walking further out in the woods. And we're kind of in the center of this state game land. It's a it's kind of a big drainage. We moved around couple times, and we kinda got to this ridge. And we decided to like sit down, you know, just wait for deer, and he was kind of slightly downhill for me. And I went up to to go walk over to him and on on my way over a kind of tripped and fell and. My gun went off, and I looked up and my dad was on the ground. And. Didn't even comprehend for a second. What had just happened? I thought that he was joking with me. I was like, hey dad, would you do ha- not? I just didn't know what he was doing. And it took me a second to. To realize what the hell does happened and. I ran over to him. And I've found him on the ground with. A lot of blood and and two holes is neck one either side. And I started screaming at the top of my lungs for anybody to come help me anybody. You know, we're out in the middle of the woods completely alone. And I'm they're trying to hold hold these holes and keep anything in. And you know, I'm trying to get him to say anything. I'm screaming at the top of my lungs like for God to help. I wasn't necessarily religious. But in those moments. You start saying please God elp is is. There is nothing in them. Nothing at all. But I'm still like not giving up you know, because I. This whole moment is exploding around. You. You don't I don't have no idea. What just happened? I just it just happened. Now, I'm in in. And finally, some other hunters showed up. And he you know, we gotta start doing CPR. So. So there I am, you know, twelve year old kid in the woods doing CPR on my dad. That I just accidentally shot. And. Kiat is just twelve years old, you know, going through. That. And so we're doing CPR, you know, I'm trying to block the holes and he's pump in my dad's chest, and I'm trying to breathe life back into him. While i'm. Watching it fade away in his eyes. And I mean is we did CPR for I don't know how long and then some other hunter ran out of the woods to go. Get help into me. This is all happening like so fast. You know, but it was hours hours and next thing. I know that the first responder. Pulled me away had me stop doing CPR and put a shirt over my dad's face, you know. And that was like, yeah. That was the. The moment where he's dead. God I realize rate then there. Never. Never coming back. Never gonna hear anything never gonna see anything. That's my boy's not. It's never going to happen again. Been in a state of mind where there's nothing. You know like mentally in your head. There's not a fucking thing. But void but black. In. That's that's like where my head was at walking out of the woods. Just. Don't know where I was going. Don't know where wanted to be as going. I was leaving the woods trying to get I'll try and get anywhere. Don't know. You know, I finally got home and in there as waiting for my mom to show up. Which was. Hard to you know, I. Fuck every every ounce of my body wanted to see her and wanted to hug her and wanted to, you know, have my mother's embrace. But the same time I felt. Like, I took something from her. You know, I felt like. I felt like I changed her life. So drastically in that moment, and it was my fault. And it was it was on me. And so that was vows fucking heavy too. When my first showed up, I was hiding in the basement. Because. I killed his brother in my mind. You know, I. As hiding I didn't I was so frayed to see them and. Man. I was not in a good place. I was as twelve year old kid, and that would set me down a path for a couple years. Understandably, the family was devastated, but they told Josh that it was all a horrific accident, and they stress that it was not his fault. Still Josh could not shake the feeling. He couldn't get rid of the shame and trauma outside sports. I didn't give shit in school is just barely skate Bhai in school for years. And I I didn't give a flying. Fuck. What anybody thought about me? Yeah. I couldn't give two shits. If somebody told me to turn my homework in or if somebody told me to, you know, go clean the bathroom or something. I just fuck you, you know, that was like kind of what I thought and what that. That resulted in was, you know, me get in trouble. A lot of bad grades party lot. So staying out late at night and doing stuff like that. And but what happened was it started turning me into this asshole of sun? So by highschool Josh's relationship with his mother was strained to say, the least constantly getting into trouble at school. And with the cops will do that to a parent child relationship in his teens. Josh was arrested a handful of times for things like drinking and smoking weed, and he was put on probation one not at home when Josh was seventeen. He got into it with his mom. He can't remember this Pacific's just that he was being rude and disrespectful. That's when one of his mom's friends was at the house asked Josh to step outside. And then without saying anything he punched Josh square in the face too bad for him. I was a high school wrestler in Pennsylvania and immediately had him tap out on the ground. But. But you know, like that that punch to the face really kinda it pulled me in really it. Kind of really made me realize like, hey, kid. You you need to treat your mother. Right. You need to treat her better. Because you know, what she doesn't deserve this shit. You're giving her and you need to change for her because she's been going through this also and she's on this ride with you. And you know, what she's the only one trying to help you out. But Josh still had some trouble to get into while he was on probation. The Cup searched his house and found some weed in court the judge gave Josh two options jail time or the military orange isn't really joshes color. So he chose the military and he found his way to the navy seals literally the night before I was going to go to the marine recruiter. I saw there's this old discovery. Channel buds class two three. Four special and I saw that. And I was like, wow. That is way cooler than the marines. I'm gonna go do that stood. And I knew absolutely nothing about it. I was just like that looks really cool that looks like a really awesome way to serve your country. How how could it possibly look cool because I've seen those those shows, and it basically shows people like all sandy rolling run at the beach like carrying logs and like doing just it's looks kind of terrible. And it's like interesting to watch because you're safely like eating popcorn under a blanket on your couch that USA, you're like, that's awesome. I wanna do that. What it was just you know, I had this one instructor in buds. He used to say this one thing to us buds doesn't find students students. Find buds because just like you're saying you're watching this video somebody being wet and sandy carrying logs down the beach swimming for. Miles carrying boats on their head who the hell wants to do that. That's stupid. Right. But I saw that. And I'm like that looks so hard. I want to put myself through that. I wanna go do something incredibly hard and challenge myself because you know, what deep down internally, I know that I wanted to hear at least in my head again. That's my boy I pretty much ever since that happened. I've deep down inside been trying to prove myself to my dad saying you want to become a navy seal and actually becoming one are two very very very different things. That buds class Josh referred to is basic underwater, demolition training. It's considered the hardest. Most difficult training in our military. The navy is pretty hush hush about the specific. Fix. But buds is a six month. Long course that split up into three different phases. The first is the toughest it's eight weeks of physical and mental conditioning that peaks halfway with something called hell week. Two thirds of navy seals usually quit during that week. You're cold. You're tired. You, you know, have no idea when the suffering is going to end, and I got myself through those moments with a consolation because I always attributed the constellation Ryan to my dad every time, you know, we're laying in the surf, you know, just sand in every crack and crevice your body and totally freezing locking arms with the guy next to you. Trying your hardest to stay warm. I would just be staring up at a Ryan. And I would just go to that blank spot in my head where nothing else matters. But the twinkle in those stars. And how would you characterize your time with the seals? What were some of the highs? What were some of the lows my time in the military was. On the best chapters Mileit one hundred percent, but you know, being in the seal teams in the military during time of war. The main theme is death. It's ever present. And I didn't know exactly what I was getting myself into. Coming up after the break Josh struggles to find balance and understanding as a soldier. Support for the diaries comes from the good people. At Patagonia, proudly present treeline film that celebrates the forest humans. Always dependent follow group of skiers no mortar, scientists and healers to the perch, forests of Japan, the red cedars British Columbia and the bristle cones of Nevada as they explore. An ancient story written in rings, watch the full film Patagonia, this YouTube channel additional support for the diaries comes from kicking course, coffee dreams. Don't come true unless dreamers wake up wake up and kick us with kicking Moore's coffee. It's good coffee for good people available at Amazon, kicking horse coffee dot com dream, then do go make them troop horse coffee as comes from cooled racks for money bike rides or powder. Slashing funds makes racks that help you get your gear to where you wanna be. Yep. That's right. You can now carry your skis or boards in style with. Grip roof rack took it out coup. Because you love your bike and skis. Josh went to boot camp in Great Lakes, Illinois and buds in Coronado, California. After that, he was stationed at seal team four in Virginia Beach Virginia, even though some of the biggest tragedies in my life during that time, the greatest brotherhoods I've ever formed in the greatest friendships, and the some of the most fulfilling deeds are also during that time of love to tell you about Adam Smith, you ever have a friend who no matter who meets this friend, or who you know, is friends with that guy. He's always the best one. He's always the one that everyone is like that dude's who I wanna be like, you know, that dude, absolutely. That dude inspires me. Yeah. Adam was the pit ame- of a barrel chested freedom fighter. He. He was a in tune frogman all day long and guy I met Ataman. We're in buds and my class was like this class that formed up for like six months, and I showed up late. So I didn't know anybody. But I I'm a med Adamos just walking down the hallway our barracks and this dude walked by the case of beer, and he's like, yo man, you wanna come have some beers. And it was like hell Lia, man. We just mmediately hit it off, Adam. And Josh is friendship deepened. After that. First meeting. Once they passed buds. They're in the same platoon that meant they spent tons of time with one another and went on every training trip together even bought a house in Virginia Beach. They would hang their between deployments throw parties. It was the meeting place for their friends and family, Josh and Adam were deployed together in Iraq. And then Afghantistan, but they were stationed at different operating bases during that second deployment, Josh Adams teams would operate as quick reaction forces or. Q. Fs for each other basically Adams crew needed support. Joshua's would come to help and vice versa. Enough gamma STAN Josh's q r f was going to back up Adam's team during a night mission about two AM or three AM. Can't remember for sure somebody was running around slamming on all the doors Saint Hilo down he lowdown, but we all woke up, and we went into our planning space and up on the TV's. We had the ISR footage of of Bernie L dri and still didn't know details. Still weren't really sure what happened or what was going on in. We're standing in this planning space in phone rings. And or LT, sir officer in charge. He picks up the phone, and, you know, peer pin-drop in the room because we're waiting soul staring him. And all it is. Roger copy hangs up. And this LT of ours is a guy all look up to respect, you know, stone cold frogman. And he says, you know, listen up everybody. We. Helicopter went down. And. We have casualties and just as he started to say further, you know, sort of breaking up his voice in we news bad because to make this man is leading a seal platoon and combat star pricking up. It had to be something bad. So he started rattling off names and. Turns out we'd lost three men on that helicopter. Blake mcclendon. Dennis Miranda and Adam Smith, and it was who is hard. It was to hear those words. Commandos mouth was. Hitchhike at ton of bricks, not to mention we lost three guys three really incredible human beings and strong men, and you know, the third name just happened to be Adam and. We'll had a minute and I went outside. And I don't know if some people do, but I didn't cry in war. You know, we didn't have time. We never time to let any motions out. It was. Just went outside for a quick thirty seconds in. You know? Calling breath and think there's some two by fours, and I grabbed his smashed it. And and that was about it that was that was all the emotional release that was able to get and. You know, we went back inside. And it was. Who's okay? What do we do? Now. Now, what do we do to help the rest of the guys on the ground? So we started scrambling and. The hardest part of that day for us was getting ready and waiting. And not going. They didn't end up needing us to go, you know, because they were able to handle everything and you don't wanna put more people at risk. And there's all these things come into play. But all we wanted to do was go there and be there and help out and do what we can for the guys on the ground who are also brothers still alive and to do what we can for the guys who died in that was so fucking frustrating. There's one survivor. Everybody else onboard was killed. Three navy seals and another naval special warfare guy and interpreter. And the whole flight crew was lost in the helicopter that day. And we'd one guy make it out alive. And that was devastating. Service for the boys up at this base. And they flew me in for it. Which was funny because they're like you have to shave for this because our units, we don't shave when those situations in which grow up big fat beards and made me shave. But I I was coming from a fob which had no hot showers a hit and stuff like that. So I was super grimy. I came. He's pissed Lana grenades. Bill, and I'd left this like huge gangly mustache because I knew Adam would just laugh his balls off. If you saw me like trying to give it presentable speech to all these, you know, high ranking officers, you know, about his life, you know, to stand in there looking like, I was a new loved it. So it was a good moment though to go up there. And you know, let all these high ranking guys know, how amazing this person was that they're there to respect and that was cool. And you know, I guess there was one more emotional release. I got to see the boys in the other platoon. And we all gathered around, you know, we had the soldiers crosses for all for all of them. And we all gathered around for a moment. And everyone got to really lose it for second completely. And soon as that was over his back to work ios back to the job. But again, it was like a situation where kind of all that stuff in spitballs and next next thing, you know, you never get to talk to that person again ever ever. So yeah, it was really really fucking hard lose NAT him. The military. It's that kind of Viking culture. You know, you brother dies you. He pound beers in the halls. You know, so you can salute their their flight with fray at of halls of Hala and every death day. We don't celebrate birthdays. Really celebrate death days. And it was the deal you go to the bar and you drink hard a put a shot up on the bar for them. And next thing. I know I was at the bar maybe every month or every other month on August, six two thousand eleven a helicopter named extortion. Seventeen was shot down near Kabul. Thirty eight people were killed thirty one of which were American military personnel, including seventeen ABCL's this was and still is the single biggest loss of US life and are nearly twenty year effort Naff ghanistan. One year later on the death day. Josh went to the bar. It was important to us to go salute our broS by drinking and friends on L copter. I was out doing what we did. I was saluting them as toasting them. I was remembering them and got a DUI that night. And I remember specifically with the the cop before. Yeah. Actually got the DUI. I just wanted to tell him, you know, why were out celebrating? I wasn't looking for a break or anything. I wasn't. I've just letting them know, you know, as like this big date for me. I'm just this. Why we were out and cop looked Amies? Like, you're not the only one who's lost somebody. And it's like, yeah. Bride inches lose somebody on this day year ago. I lost seventeen and I was. I was livid. I couldn't believe they would to me. He was disrespecting my brothers by by saying that to me he he was right though. You know, I wasn't the only one who's lost somebody, but was disrespecting them to me. And man, I was just unhappy to say the least, and you know, after that night and at the incident and everything I woke up the next morning with DUI. And I said myself, I will never remember my brothers strict with alcohol again as like from here on out. I will remember them in a way that they would be proud of in a way that they would respect and most importantly in a way that they would want to join me to commemorate Adam's death day. Josh decided he would climb lone eagle peak in Colorado is just a hair under twelve thousand feet tall. It is a Butte. Of mountain this solo dramatic shark tooth in the Indian peaks wilderness on the front range. I wanted the tribute to meaningful and so when into this mountain and free solo the route, and it was fucking magical is everything I thought it would be. I mean Jesus Christ like. I thought Adam was with me the whole day. You know, I felt like he was there. And so got to the top of the mountain, you know, kinda reflected a little celebration with 'Self and on the way down certain descending, the wrong gully, and it served raining, and I almost careened off eight hundred foot five hundred foot cliff multiple times. There's this one grassy slope. Specifically sliding down at like, I don't very fast towards big cliff, and I was going to go off. But I I there's a little crack rape aside. And I jammed my knee into the crack as I was sliding down arrested. My fall with a knee jam and. Say holy shit. And then I pull my knee out of crack, and I looked and I could see the bone multiple places. And so it's like, I gotta get outta here. Yeah. As it was going down this wrong. Gully I found this runner on this boulder. That is the largest runner I've ever seen. I've never seen one. This big before. It's like it's gotta be like ten feet, you know, in diameters huge. And I was like I'm just gonna take that thing with me. And so I pulled it off and I ended up getting completely Clift out. But I found a crack in a little chalk stone, so through chalk stone in the crack and through the run around the Charleston and the runner made it just far enough to where I could use it to wrap. This little section to me that was you know, my my boys out there with me that day, you know, that they they made me run. Into that absurdly long runner at a completely random location on a pretty not frequently climbed mountain and held onto that thing held onto value that that when I get out there in the mountains and in tribute to them in in the way, I- recreation, I feel their presence, and it's the closest I can get to them. It's it's the place where I can be as close to them as possible. But also felt like like kind of weight was lifted is like this is the right way to remember them. I knew that it was the right way to find catharsis for the yearning that I have to reconnect with my brothers and everyone else have lost in two thousand fifteen. Josh started mission Memorial Day. It's a nonprofit that honors the memory and service of veterans through a specific and incredibly difficult outdoor activity every year on Memorial Day. The I was at Denali climb where they raised the US flag at eighteen thousand feet in two thousand sixteen they returned to Denali with the names of five hundred fallen soldiers on the flag, and they raised it at the twenty thousand foot summit then in two thousand seventeen Josh and crew retraced the steps of the Bataan death, March in the Philippines. Josh also took on a personal mission in two thousand seventeen he climbed and snowboard all of Colorado's fifty four fourteen thousand foot mountains, pro skier and ski mountaineer living legend. Chris Davenport, accomplished this in two thousand six he did it in three hundred sixty one days. Josh did it in one hundred thirty eight days, which is insane. And super Evan ran. But for Josh who's never really about the record a lot of days during that where that were really just felt like there with me and felt like I was doing something they'd want me to do because I also had a flag with me on almost every mountain that has the name of every navy seal killed since nine eleven written on it. And so, you know, over the six hundred plus miles and over two hundred fifty thousand plus feet, avert that went on for all these peaks. That flag was with me. And I carried every single one of their names with me all those times, and they drove me to keep going and there's one one day, particularly that I can I can remember like drawing on them. There's these two mountains in the Sanger, Chris range of Colorado, Crestone peak and Crestone needle and there too. You know, they call him the part of the dirty dozen which are like the the more technical fourteen years and a big storm just came in two days before. So I knew how the storm came in. I knew it kind of came in a little saturate and things were pretty stable. So I decided to try to go for those two peaks with all power because I wanted to scheme. As great a condition as possible. I think it ended up being like an eighteen mile day almost ten thousand feet avert and to fourteen years climbed in a foot and a half a pow, and I climb Crestone peak, and I skied this line on it and like foot- Naveh pow, and I was solo. And just those turns were unbelievable. I mean every time I set into a turn really hard and just got a huge face shot. And you know, made this wide Arkin sweep into the next one. And the wind is coming at me so fast. You know, you all you can hear. As you keep picking up speed and going down this line making these beautiful turns and hand drags, and then looking back up at the line and seeing that I just booted straight up this thing for thousands of feet and thinking why did that kind of really fast, and then thinking, wow, skied the shit out of that thing. And then while I've got another one to do. And so I went over the other peak, which is more technical still had all the pound so booting up. It was crazy hard. And by this time. I think I'm thirteen hours into the day and halfway the line. Like, I start really dogging. But I knew what I had in my backpack. I knew that in my backpack. I had eighty plus names eighty plus dudes that were my fuel my energy to keep me going to drive me to push this peak. I didn't do just on my own like I had I had motivation. I had motivation that pushed me to go for this thing. Do you believe that you have to live your best life and achieve all your goals because your friends won't have the chance to yes? Yeah. I completely do and you know defining. My goals is is hard to because. Yeah. The fourteen years project was my goal. But the way I came up with that goal is because you know, all my work with who knew vets I see that. There's something that if you're veteran who's who's in a tough space, and you know, maybe on the couch too much or maybe in the bottle too much. Just not getting what you want out of life. You might need someone a fellow vet to show you that you can't go do these big things you can have that fulfillment in your life. Again, the used to have the military you can live free brothers. I find more motivation when my goals aren't about me. I i've. I find it easier for myself to wake up every day and push it and keep going if I have a greater meaning behind what I'm trying to achieve and so yeah, my life is is completely lived for someone other than myself and mostly from my friends who died to me the thing that makes the day perfect is having lived that day out not for myself. But for someone else the best key descent I've ever done was deep in the heart of the sour train in Colorado. I got a group of vets around, and we went to recreate some called the trooper traverse the tenth mountain division executed before they went to fight in World War Two they train in Colorado. And they wanted to do ski traverse from Leadville to Aspen over three passes over twelve thousand feet and through some of the highest mountains in Colorado and on their traverse, which took four days about forty miles a soldier. That was on the traverse was the only member of the recon platoon that was to be killed in combat later. His name bud winners delegates but winners and in the middle of this traverse is this unbelievably beautiful walled Kular. And I knew that we were going to diverge from this route to try and ski this thing if it had snow, and I got to the base of it. And not only is there snow, but it's fat, and it's beautiful and aesthetic and at the very top of the line is this like twenty foot tall pillar just standing solo on top of this thing as soon as we gathered under it. I talked to my Buddy's. I'm like, look this thing can go let's climb this. Let's ski this. So we started booting up the Kular and three of us went up and we had tenth mountain division tribute skis tenth mountain division, tribute snowboards split boards. And we were on this traverse tributing tenth mountain division. And. Now, we were able to climb this lar- that I believe might be I sent and we got to the top. And we shredded the shit out of this line. And it was beautiful beautiful s. I mean, the snow was amazing. The Kular was unbelievable. It was walled. And it was it wasn't too deep. But it was deep. You know, the the walls of the Kalari it was deep enough where you felt walled. But you could see out, and you could see the range beyond you. And it was a blooberg day. And everything was great. And we got to the bottom of the run. The other buddy of mine who skied the car with us. He has this American flag. That's super dear to him. I think it was it was it was in the truck of his friend. Who's a veteran committed suicide and he was able to bring the flag on on this adventure. So it's super dear to him. And we have the skis in these split boards that are tribute. Attest mountain division. And then at the base of the Kular we read but winners bronze star citation from World War Two. We read this story allowed to this group of veterans that had been to war knows the actions that are being read and just we dedicated the coup, Artem we we named polar Kular because that's what his friends called him because he had a far reaching poll plant while he skied. Yeah. So we call it a polar lar and that day all the aspects of the lead up to its naming of polar who are and all that we did in reading his bronze star citation the weight of of all that was God. I can't even explain how happy I was that day because it all added up, and you know, we don't know, but winners, we didn't know any of the guys who were on this traverse. But you know, what to us? We did something really great for that guy's memory that day. And he's. A fellow soldier. He's he's seen. He saw the things we saw before he was unfortunately killed and God it was that was the perfect day. Thous the absolute perfect day in the mountains. I wanna know what we all can do in our own daily lives to honor those we love who have passed away. God, man. I really think when you wake up in the morning and your day starts off with burnt coffee here, you're late to work or or whatever you kinda gotta realize like, hey, even though my days pre Schutte right now. At least I still have this day. At least I'm able to get up and go live and do something. And then, you know, take another step forward by, you know, thinking like, hey, man. I'm really missing. So. And so who who died somehow, someway, what can I do to make my pain go away? A little bit. But also have it be some way that that they would wanna be with me and on top of that tell stories, you know, I I've told so many stories of Adam Jeremy Dennis, and I tell people stories because they won't truly die. If I keep their memory live they'll carry on. And if I continue to represent myself in in a good way, and and try to do good work and try to do good things the impact people in in a good way. Their perception of me is the perception of my brothers, and my brothers are the legend, and I have to keep them alive. And I think anyone can do that, you know, because, hey, if your kid who lost your dad, real young, and you wanna make sure people knew who you dad was Thelma story about him. Let them know who that guy was and present yourself in a strong way. Because who you just told that story to will appreciate the story. And the person that you are is also in their mind, the person that they just heard the story about man, you know, when you look at the timeline of your life. It's like flagged with these terrible things these really positive wonderful things and the trajectory is, you know, remarkable truly and I'm wondering if when you look back from where you are today. All these years later. Do you think your father would be proud? Would. He give you. That's my boy fuck. Yes. All day long. I truly truly believe I'm keeping proud. I'm doing my best and keeping him proud. I'm keeping my brother-in-law proud. He's dead. I'm keeping my best friend's little brother proud. He's dead. Keeping the next closest thing. I had to father proud who's dead. I'm keeping Jeremy wise Adam Smith Dennis maranda, Blake mcclendon, Jesse Pittman Caleb Nelson. Tie woods. I'm keeping them. As proud as I possibly can. Because that's all I wanna do all those guys who I miss. I just want them to be happy for me and best way than be happy for me to be proud of me. So yeah, they're proud. You've been listening to safety third. Our guest today was Josh Jespersen. And to learn more about what he's doing. Go ahead and check out his Instagram at jazz, Jespersen or WWW mission memorial dot com. And if you like today show, well, just go ahead and get that word out there safety third is kind of like the Kiwi in a fruit salad. You just don't know what you're missing until you had a little bitty. So tell your friends tell your family, even tell your neighbors weird house plan about the show. Don't be shy pals you can find us on Instagram safety, third underscore, podcast and on the interwebs at safety third podcast dot com. Third is produced by Elizabeth Ikano Alex park. Edited this episode additional production help from ignorance Montague music by my brother. Yes. My brother Brendan. I am too. Well, read for my own good O'Connell art direction by Anya Miller. Berg fiscal hall is our creative director Becca, call czar, executive producer. I'm your host had he O'Connell okeydokey pals until next time. Keep it. Keep it loose. Remember safety third.

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BGN Radio #24: Eagles Survive the Giants

Bleeding Green Nation

24:48 min | 3 years ago

BGN Radio #24: Eagles Survive the Giants

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Radio number twenty four. This is brought to you by the SP nation and bleeding nation. I am your host Michael kissed riding solo Fergie portion of this show Benjamin like is traveling and Brandon league out in may he forever reign was at the stadium for the game. But he's going to be joining us here. Very shortly on a phone call to give his side of things regarding this twenty five twenty two win for the eagles over the New York. But ball giants before we get to that chat before we get into the details of this game. I want to talk about something that stirred up a discussion before the game. And that concerns the status of our franchise quarterback. And before the game. It was reported at Carson Wentz is still not one hundred percent back from his recovery in Rappaport explained on NFL network. Let's go to that clip. Let's talk about another player who's doing. Well enough. Carson wentz. Of course, you showed him warming up there. And what went is done ridge coming back from a tornado tore. Now, Seattle has been impressive. But it does take a full year at the least. Bullied back and actually talked to a source this week with direct knowledge of his rehab. He explained to me why went is not fully the quarterback that we will see going forward in. The main reason is he is not planting hard on his left. But he's taking what this person described as baby steps here's tentative with this left with this left foot is either steps into his throws. And as he scrambles that's something as it gets stronger. Neuro Nuss Guli is improvement. It is not there yet. And it also has to do with confidence. That is why maybe we haven't quite seen. The Carson Wentz that we did last year rich. And by the way, it's going to be another year probably beginning next season before Wentz can shed the brace. So this is as mental as it is physical with wins. But it's notable that Dr David j Challe at pro football, doc who has intimate knowledge of these types of surgeries and recovery's chimed did on Twitter saying quote truth. No matter how great Carson Wentz is. No matter how hard he works. Can't speed up biology of healing multi ligament, knee, injuries, take longer than isolated ACL, unquote. This is something that Benjamin Solex on the all season while watching Wentz throw, and we talked about it here on the kissing Solex show at the time that he saw Ben tweeted this out so quote, please take with a grain of salt I zero access to Carson except for five to ten minutes of practice today. There was a false step on his left foot when he transferred his weight to throw. It definitely was not on his two thousand seventeen tape. Didn't notice it during camp either, unquote. So none of this comes as a surprise us. I think we all just brushed off this factor when talking about his play this year because beyond the first game back against the Indianapolis Colts where he showed some obvious rust, which was mostly mental. There was the interception where he bird dog to earth's and got picked off. But after that and before the saints game despite some hiccups he was playing like a quarterback. And the fact that he was able to do that at. This stage in his recovery's. Incredible. No doubt about that. And it could explain some of his struggles right now granted some of those struggles have been mental. I highlighted goes on a piece for bleeding green nation dot com. So it's not forgiving all of those mistakes. But it's important for us. Take a step back for a moment and recognize that Carson Wentz tour multiple ligaments in his knee in December less than a year ago. And one thing that I want to do this week is go back and look at quarterbacks at this happened to see their year there next year compared to some other your surrounding it, and what their recovery timetable looked like because remember that this is a quarterback that before the saints game which gave everybody nesia went was part of a group that consisted of Matt Ryan and Jubran quarterbacks on pays for over seventy percent. Completion percentage over seven point five yards per tenth. And over a one hundred quarterback rating. That's only been done by eight quarterback that has thrown over three hundred times in season five times three times by the Asia. Drew Brees once by Joe Montana. And once by Steve Young in two of their best seasons. So if you're worried about went after the saints game, I get it. He played his worst game as a pro possibly his worst game as a football player. That's not lost on me. But I would preach patients while he returns to form. But regardless year, we are. And there was a lot of pressure on whence to perform and against the giants. He posted a stat line of twenty for twenty eight to thirty six touchdown and zero interceptions solid outing after a slow start to his game. And let's talk about how this game started for the giants. They started out on fire. They went up nineteen to three by the second quarter. What we saw from. That was a defense for the eagles that was just wholly unprepared. And of course, injuries play a part with that. But even then the ingrain starters like Nigel Brad replying poor. And now he's also got a handle getting guys like Nathan Gary lined up correctly and with the absence of Jordan Hicks. But it hasn't just been this week for Brad. And it's not all on him. Either. Any for instance, if you motion. From chained in Sullivan. There's a very good chains. He's going to have zero idea what the adjustment is. And you have access to all that outside space that he just vacated also if you scheme up to run to his side and get one on ones, but chained in chances are he's gonna make a terrible tackle attempt and with and have a bad angle on that happened a lot in the first half. And also if you get out del verse BAAs b from a number split with no bracket or double. Yeah. You're gonna get burnt and the eagles did. And hey, they tightened up in the red zone at times in that first half. But that's because they're actually forced to collision routes and re-route and played tight. But there was just a lack of execution all around. And you saw that perfectly on the fifty one yard touchdown run from Barkley and they highlighted it on the broadcast. You got Brandon Graham, and I believe it was crave on LeBlanc in the same gap in that play. And then you have four or five guys surrounding Barclay down the field, and nobody can make a tackle. But what this first half amounted to was you get towards the two minute warning. And I felt like that drive that this. Score before the half that it was the best display of what this offense can be. When you get creative with your screens and call them on anything. But third down the play. They ran before that was a double chair route, which is a double out in up. They get the pastor fears call on Al Sean, Jeffrey, so the threatening vertically that pans out, but the screen that I'm talking about was where they get Tate in ghost motion behind the shock on a lion. And give a swing screen look. And then you have a flair by the running back to the other side. And you throw a screen to Erz inside of that you get a chunk gain there. Right. So may follow up with fifteen yard strike to arts down field for a touchdown. And then you get the conversion on a speed option. Pitch to cork lament that drive right? There was some of the best play calling. I've seen for the eagles in a while. And it was somewhat encouraging. But it's also maddening because it takes you until late into the first half right around the two minute warning to really start unleashing this offense. I mean before that you saw a bunch of third-down springs. Un-imaginative touches for Tate poor design poor execution and a lack of balls in key situations. Just not willing to throw the ball downfield when you really needed to make a play in kind of neutering the offense. And either way look they enter the half down nineteen eleven which honestly was a blessing because that entire half was not a nineteen to eleven half. And part of that has to do with a yellow ball from ally. Manning that took three points off the board for the giants or at least a chance at three points. And you're looking at the two offenses next to each other three hundred and forty six total yards for the giants offense one hundred fifty nine for the eagles. That's almost two hundred yard difference in that half was dominated by the giants. And the eagles were very very lucky to be within one score by the end of that half. Now out of the half some back and forth in a fuel goal. Dry for the eagles from trips on third down inside the red zone. The eagles run double China's seven. We talk about it here on the show a lot to outside. Side in routes, and you get the corner out from most inside guy in this case. It's golden Tate. The giants just had the right call on not too much to complain about their to be honest. And it's the play before that that kills me. It was the false start by believe it was Brandon Brooks on third in one or the eagles looked to have a snake on which is undefeated, by the way, except when you can't actually run the play. So they settle for field goal. It turned to nineteen fourteen and the game just grinded to a screeching halt going back to the end of the first half. It went interception. Punt punt field goal. Punt punt. And then finally finally in the fourth quarter, Josh, Adam. So I thought had excellent game breaks through scores himself at touchdown kissed. The two point conversion as well. Look, I haven't been the biggest fan of atoms. But this was a game. I really wanna go back and take a close look at because it was his best by far from a patient's vision of finishing perspective. He got the hot hand. And as I've said with this backfield. It doesn't matter who. Gets the reps for me as long as you stick with the hot hand and right now Adams's playing their best running back just is. So the eagles did stick with him for the most part and also mixed in some Corey Clemente who I felt had his best game this season and subtly now with those two plying. Well, you have a backfield giving you something anything to alleviate some pressure off of this offense. And you get a twenty two nineteen lead with ten minutes left. And now there is where you gotta finish which has been a problem all year, whether it be offensive -ly or defensively for this team. So do I finish while after getting tied up twenty two twenty two they do finish in part because of an adjustment. Made. By Jim Swartz that simplified the calls for a banged up secondary a communication was a massive issue for this unit in the first half. And by making things easier for all the replacements that allow them to just play in force allied to beat them, which he could not the other part of it is that giants head coach Pat Shurmur moved away from Barclay after the game. He cited. That this was due to wanting to spell Barclay a bit with win Goldman. And also because the offense was getting quote unquote off schedule, and look I wrote about this for bleeding green nation saying that the giants need to be more creative getting Barclay involved in the passing game and even giving some suggestions on how to do that. And I guess luckily for us Shurmur didn't take that advice and continues to show. No understanding of how did you lies Barkley as receiver? Now the last part of this formula how the eagles finishes the temp lay fifty yard five and a half minute drive by the eagles orchestrated. By Carson Wentz who accounted for forty three of those fifty yards including a massive conversion on fourth in one from the giants forty two on a staple of the eagles offense. The mesh sit wheel where you have to intersecting. Shallow drags, and you have a guy in this case was Nelson Adler he have him run to the middle of that and sit down further up field. So that crossing action that you sit down in the middle of it. And then you. Also have a wheel route from the backfield whence found a wide open. Nelson added lower for the conversion so they come through in a clutch situation. Jake Elliott holds up his end of the bargain by burying a forty three yard field goal for the game winning score. And bom. The eagles are five and six now. And it wasn't pretty it wasn't what you really needed to see overall against a bad giants team. But a win is a win. It keeps the eagles hopes alive. And you really can't be too angry about that. And I spoke with Brandon leak out after the game to get his thoughts on it. And let me kick that conversation right now. So you can get what he saw from the eagles in this performance over the giants. Beal g welcome into BGN radio number twenty four. I've been very lonely talking to myself for the past ten minutes or so how you doing brother? All right, Mike, you know, it was not the prettiest of win certainly for the today. But overall it was a good enough effort to win in the season still alive. Live as it is. Yeah. And with this win as ugly as it was it really puts the eagles in the mixed for the division somehow, someway, and you wrote about it for bleeding green nation dot com. I mean after having started four and six this win puts them at five and six and we keep asking if games are must win. And we've lost some of those games. But here we are with a clear path to the NFC east title if they can write to ship in my right? It's crazy. I mean, so Cowboys win on Thursday could lose on Thursday, the Saint they will be and then obviously eagles in Washington will play on Monday Washington being five ill in crime sakes. So in that game, which you know seems pretty possible if in the Washington starting Colt McCoy, and they have a number of issues with injury to everything to definitely Rollerball team so win that. And then again, the Cabot Lou. The Saint than eagles Dallas both being sixty six heading into that week fourteen matchup in Dallas. And the winner of the that game that point I in which crazy and with three games the go-to at that point swimming do win which low out of ourselves little bit. They'd beat the the terrible so help that doesn't care until you Bill beat washed douse. But to be in that eagle even go realistically like one into in their final three games than Cowboys could go to one another tiebreaker. They're based on division record as long as he goes to be Washington that one win so definitely real path to them making the playoffs still, which is pretty crazy. Yeah. That is while the end this game at self will. We'll talk about this win over the giants twenty five to twenty two. This was a tale of two half's because it didn't feel like the eagles should have been in this thing at the end of the firm. First half Ardy spoke about how nineteen to eleven at the end of the first half was a real gift because it didn't feel like it was that type of game early on in the second half was completely different. You know, I've already talked about Shurmur not getting saquon Barkley involve on the giving him four touches in the second half. And he was saying it was to spell them gull men, and they were off schedule and all that. I just think it's a lack of creativity getting him involved, but and poor coaching. But like, oh, what was the feel after the first half for you? Because I didn't feel real great about this team after the first half or chances to win at all. I mean, it was rough from the nineteen three right? An MTO are like okay that season right there. And it certainly felt like especially eagles had settled for that field goal. An you'll are the giant come right back down in that that touchdown drive but Barkley capping off the touchdown run there. So just felt like man kind of a combination of errors that have been owning this team. Salida Doug Peterson being little too conservative the often failing actually, Hugh, you know, the the all start on the third one. Yeah. There's some definitely some issues there really snowballed. But I think you have to give this team credit and the coaching staff credit to who are ultimately, you know, not losing the team because I was a big issue coming into this week. You have now Jenkins talking about he doesn't like guys demeanor and last week of talking about accountability for this team could be down nineteen three than fight their way back into the game. I mean, look the other way around and it was nineteen degree and laid down the dined. Roll over them. We could be criticizing the coaching staff right now or not motivating everyone properly. So that that they did show that fight at the end. I think the coaching staff and the players, of course, themselves especially got up Jenkins who was criticizing the team. And then it comes up this big big interception. Right. Before the site in the half there been huge. And I think those early a big turning point for the game. Yeah. And that was a turning point right before that the offense. It felt like they started to open up at the end of the first half after some frustrating play calling and conservative play calling before that the screens and everything and I felt the play calling was better in the second half. And even Jim Schwartz made some adjustments. Malcolm Jenkins said that they simplified that defense immediate easier for those replacement guys just go out there and do their job so along with also not getting the team to to you know, give up to to have them invested in the second half after a poor performance in the first half. How did you feel micro and even Doug Peterson because he's calling the plays acquitted themselves in the second half. And at the end of that. I did you feel the same way that I'm feeling about it that they started to open things up, and it was successful. And maybe there's some hope that this offense can get back on track for the rest of the year. Certainly nice to see. Run game fund get going for one for Jetta while diverse time all year feels like mean her you know, to be able to rely on Josh Adams, even the game twenty two carries, which you know, feel very unusual for eagle team that loved to share the ball. I don't even know judge. I got any carries less twenty twenty last year. Like, you know, they were there feeding in the ball in a land that don't feed it doesn't usually do running back that it was. It was great to see them able to have that efficiency. Also, obviously Corey coming up the two thousand seventeen version of himself, which is nice to see compared to the two Nate converse. That hasn't been so good. So to get that back on track was definitely encouraging health. Carson Lintott a lot. He didn't have to you know, take the whole team on his back. The whole game took some pressure off him. And you told that helped of the end of the game. I think he he completed a all four of his pass attempts only find who drives where the touchdown had the game winning field low budget. Elliot and all those completion for sixty six yards. So use a very efficient. At the end of the game. When it counted. He is finally now on the board and games where his team trailed by four point previously was what Leo and thirteen his one thirteen. So that's been a big talking point the obviously with Carson that being able to come up in the clutch if you will. But he did today though, as big, yeah. And how did you feel about his performance overall because before the game, and I talked about a little bit about this already on the show the reports that you know, he's not one hundred percent back. And I think that's definitely true. Just having suffered that ACL and elsia injury in in December of last year. And today, he goes twenty twenty eight you know, he he gets himself. Touchdown puts together. Some nice drives. Like, you said you you mentioned the final couple of drives on the last drive the game winning drive. He accounted for forty three yards of the total fifty yards on the drive. So how'd you feel about Carson overall on the day? I think the numbers probably look a little bit better than he actually played. It's fair to say that he was terrible at this thing. You know, there was some issues in there. There was some some dangerous throw smugly throws. But when you consider for the fact that head he's not hundred percent, and there are issues there still. I mean overall, you know, he sees up when it counted the most so that was the big thing from this game. Like they needed him to to finally deliver in one of those situations any did so overall, I think you have to be encouraged and just, you know, for him to play poorly as he did last week of the saints worries on three interceptions, and basically nothing going right for him to come back and have this kind of game where he didn't let no-ball on those good to see, you know, going forward, you hope he can kind of build on that. And you can go from there. So overawed step in the right direction. So Beal, gee, I know you're busy at the stadium. You're busy, man. And you got a lot of lot to do to get out. So I'll just asked you for maybe a final thought on this game over Arkansas team or anything you want to say to kind of wrap up your opinions on on this game in this eagles. Team moving forward. Obviously, they're still had issues with the team. You know, beating a giants team doesn't really change a whole lot in in the big big picture here. I guess a lot of concerns, but you know, they're still alive. I mean, that's the most important takeaway and others still again, we laid out this Nario, you'd be Washington all of a sudden, they're six and six one two divisional games. And then again, you have the opportunity to be heavily first division in week fourteen. So a lot of season left for them. It was a step in the right direction. Today a lot of issues. I don't have a ton of fate than this being honest because you know, we've seen too many struggles to where you can't have a hundred percent competence, all of a sudden just because they beat a giant team that very much stinks. But again, you know, you're looking for the positive, and they were there today some of them. So it's a matter of seeing if they can build on that there could be some good potential. News on the injury front. You know, 'cause you might be getting some guys like Douglas or mills Jones or Darren sproles Midi activate Mike Wallace from down the stretch. So so those things to hold onto. But overall, you know, a got done so ugly, but you'll take it Biaggi's. Thank you for doing this, man. You save me from having a talk to myself, you say the listeners that having a here mentor. I sell for for the entire show. So I really appreciate man. I hope you have a good one. And I it's it's you know, no matter how the wind comes. So it's always a good feeling. It's a better feeling than than losing her pressure. So that was me and Beal g conversation about this game and look being five and six eight the greatest thing, but it's an easier week after a win. 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The Product Podcast  Episode 7

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The Product Podcast Episode 7

"You're listening to the podcast detroit visit w._w._w. Dot cod best detroit dot com before information. Welcome welcome welcome to episode seven lucky number seven of the product podcast. I'm your host as always. I'm justin with my boys as wayne. Jason was goodfellas or what what up what up our guest today is conscious creator blogger promoter as an easter today should be joining the conversation and telling homeless what she's been up to everyone. We got building. Today was good rasa that work yeah so <hes>. Let's get into what we've been up to this weekend. Can you're not do this weekend this weekend so i was supposed to be at a white party all white yacht party and mass got to the dot late like ten minutes late missed the boat sick singing okay. This is good stories. Pull it off as we were pulling up and it was bad and i don't think i really did too much of anything else. You just think about that too. That's why stressed the importance of being on saw but that's just me. I'm always for everything so late today. We've all labor day. I was there for eight. Wayne was here before you know what i'm saying. I was eight. We taking clips out yagi target minus clips minus clips which we man we gotta similar situation. We're supposed to go to raft doc so <hes> i guess the bo didn't know working so somebody that the throttle was throw wasn't working so we had to. We still have fun. No we went to a pool party at the at the jeffersonian was pretty dope then. I didn't really do anything the rest of the weekend sunday. Okay we went to boozy branch yet at exit. Is that was pretty cool. That was nice. Little wisdom posed with their else pretty dope and man. I really do my. This is the first ars weekend. I didn't do a lot. It was nice to take a little break yeah. I didn't go out on friday. I think i was talking to jason. I don't think we besides boozy brunch. We didn't go to a club wants now. We want to who <hes> who did the barbecue thing this week rise weaking family barbecue a family reunion a shoppers passed. I like the we call it. The oak park part hoffa got. I can't play you had a family. Reunion is every year the same day as what is it. The fraternity sorority add always got critically salary quick greek week they had all heads was strolling a- uh-huh startling some young people out there too a lot of doubters was out there it was like a mix between like older and younger and he goes out there getting out but <hes> southam apopka ama- cousin gwen they <hes> putting this off work. It'll be twenty five next year so it's been crazy. Yes there's a long time so nice rolex mom's birthday to charlotte mcdonald's and my beautiful mother as well from what fifty-one to put her age <music> out there man well. That's super young for to have it to thirty year. Old sons on the twins instead you said likes like thirty five and then thirty-one-year-old thirty kids ed baxter one kid in one shohei. Somebody said he's twins. One of them was mistake so yeah past picture my dad hold us so nervous okay posted on the story yeah. We'd have to get a post. Y'all got the victor yeah. I got put on the story. Put it on <hes> throwback thursday alleyway bill and a look out for that so <hes> ulysses anything good. I was did i regret ross ross one better than the first man blow what else limit hustling career. I haven't listened to anything new. I've been working late will drag put awesome. Oh shit oscilloscope package now now. She rolling her eyes to drake's biggest fan. I don't know eh do run and shit for me lately like he has no guidance. I just jake's part summer walker. I loved girls need love on that was so hype and then he came along and just two cents. A lot of people say that was your song. I was gonna say he away writer though like here rossum is every art is eating row they wave and an artist cottages disappearance like damn drake. Drank is just whatever you listen to like throwbacks honestly right now. Who's whose album i have on repeat still arslanagic's. Try and over the weekend and watch videos the best too long for me plus like what i'm doing our listen to see what chris brown by myself i listen. That's like a just a great bladeless like a whole day to sex platelets. I guess i'll have to nine. You can just wake up. Play it to really don't was an rb that much like waddling battling rep put ama or made how we do it sure way must have some cheeky window. Stop the fact that that's the only reaction most season cheeky. That's <hes> <hes> what what am i listening to <hes>. Actually i just listened to josh adams. He just released a comedy album those real cool. That's i don't know what is it the myths. What does it call dan. Is it the mid education of josh adam yeah. That's dope josh larry away man any promote park to shell. I'll have some skits and into like like a type of couple skits. I think the first two are like schizophrenia. He goes into his comedy. What is live comedy and that's under his his name so it's like atoms. L._l._c. height is fourteen tried. Oh yeah yes phelps on their south felt shuttle mike well. I love how the world is working like. Everybody's like connecting. We're gonna be rich. I said this episode seven episodes sub cemented spotify just got the news brought that that up last week i was like hey are we on spotify and we were like we'll check we on spotify outlets got the black and green studio to so and we live today allow baby. We love you've got the moves. We allow here over there too so let's get in some some of these topics man what's been going on jay z. You'll hear about this news department with the n._f._l. Hillary killing the game so he's going to <hes> co-produce super bowl halftime show but not necessarily perform corners n._f._l. Commissioner mentioned roger goodell but he's going to have a lot to do with <hes> what media relations is something. Black people affairs exactly part of the culture something yeah culture department or something pretty much nipped. I mean if you look at the super bowl halftime show the last like ten wags. Why was is beyond say tesla bruno mars though <hes> i mean you gotta go all the way back to like prince. They've definitely but what about michael jackson. He killed as she back in the day. That's what i'm saying ou ooh what she did. The star spangled banner nation of trying to bring no bug trying to bring i feel i don't houston type show gigantic jackson types. He's hitting outfielder but a lot of people don't not feeling because <hes> you know what i mean. He was just boycott and last year. That's that's an interesting. Take no more. Do you want to billionaire last year though i don't know i don't really know how i feel about it. I feel like with jay z. Ambience a to like they've. They've proven to make smart business choices on my okay you. You're going somewhere with this like. I'm just gonna kinda. Trust you on it but i don't really know which way direct on the culture though is what i'm trying to figure out i mean it's like one hand. We boycotting supporting kaepernick all that stuff you know what i mean and then the next year it was was like a was support him because now we're working with them or make you know what i mean. It's like i see what he's gonna. Do you gotta make change from within gotta check. I'm all about the paper they the million over ten years to account like you. You don't know what's going on behind the scenes jay z. nonetheless so hi is this all going to make some right next year quarterback ah one hundred million season guys racing but a girl who i really don't even want to name but she's already it kind of famous tommy lorne obviously to nobody's surprise. She had something to say about it. She said fucked up shit jay z. This is a tweedy. I said jay z will be consulting with the n._f._l. For for super bowl halftime shows and other performances because apparently the league doesn't hate america and law enforcement officers at a level satisfactory enough for a former drug dealer so drugs but <hes> bro. She was saying one or tweet us and racist twitter while ago. I'm sure she said quite right. She's she's fox news. Bring people bug bro remind people that oppose but to have to reach that far disney get. She's talking about teenage shit listening fifty fifty well past that billionaire while a posted on social media sites. It was like ask her what she i used to be. Billionaire you say to a big nearness. Scott us facts show. We'll take a picture with her. Just relationship don't matson probably wanting to take a picture. You probably will because he's like yo yo. She don't even faze me like oh on by this. Put on paper planes right right. Thanks ah do a quick to that's crazy but <hes> yeah does he. Citoyen brown is she's married eighty two j long from pretty ricky pretty ricky. He's a a gospel rapper. Yeah see. I don't even know oh 'cause. I didn't stay long okay so i don't know them like no them like that but i was reading about it and he's a christian rapper now and they got married like within two days as a hugging pretty ricky going to the gospel man has hit rolling back in the day this. I love like this is what i want to do a podcast because you could never predict discipleship this type of shit like what like who got very late citoyen brown and then pretty ricky by judah. I wonder how they got connected like it probably change their life. He says he's in the church. He's a christian go pretty ricky big. That's go to jers feel about people getting married within like days of knowing each other years. We've known each other me any like what's the what's the good time like. Some people take months. Some people take years. You spend on age. You know who it later in life. I'm sure don't take as long if realize that's who you wanna be when but when you're younger you definitely should take some time you don't make people change in many ways to it kind of depends on how much you what you want because when you know what you want. I think you recognize that in somebody a lot faster than you just like going on. You know like oh. We just figuring it out like whatever never could take years like that kind of go into it with a little more attention. You might know sooner that leads me to probably one of our next topic's. It was about coasting. Somebody's been a few people have been asking me about that like one of our cousins kinda sapped in and was like yo. You should talk about this and i was like what is happening like what she do. Think about it. Like why do people do it and it's like is the kind of like the way we ain't nowadays kinda the reason behind it because everybody's dot options we got you know social social media. We got tender. We got out in general. You know what i mean so nobody's fully invested in anything. Really you know what i mean. So you guys ever been go see at our goals else anybody something like that all ask. Everybody goes to everybody to easy yeah. It's too easy just to be like. I'm going to talk about the people i've done into on my bro- these people we're probably like relationships that i have been in for and it's like i feel like sometimes when you make a plan three days later i might not feel the mood at all. The way to initiate gives you sometimes because maybe you're thinking or maybe you've got time to think about this a little bit like you just play. You know what i'm really not that interested. You know what i mean. You just don't wanna break it to him. So what you think i was gonna say. I feel like though the people people that you go usually the people that like you really weren't that yeah like you couldn't have been that interested so just let it just let some girls is it. I go sit down for show. Would it probably ban girlfriend really. I'm not the dating like hey that ain't me because i wanna relationship. That's interesting i never i think what he's trying to do yeah because it's like i'm not about to put you through that like i don't want. I mean i want you to like i don't. I'm not ready for all that title. Don't make sense and i think that's better lettered in what they call gas lighting. I guess i term i learned but as essentially lean somebody have yeah but i tell people are friendly i. I'm not trying to date so have you you know but i definitely rather be ghosted than gas hide it one hundred percent. You know what i mean. It's kind of like sales like i'd rather tell me focus on my yeses. Yes you know what i mean but <hes> i if you have been ghosted take that as a clear sign people drake <unk> <unk>. She won't answer you know what i mean like and gas hiding nashes manipulative like lucky and i'm saying that it's a whole different level versus the cheeky guzzling so it was like if somebody kind of make you feel feel crazy like all you just be an insecure us more like they want to be with you basically right leading you on but also bike making so you feel crazy that you call them out when they like chill nigga tripping. You know what i mean like you being insecurity. They like feeling they really are from drake's. 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If you want to give him head only my bed confirmed on the floor for donald floor which the thoughts on a hookup etiquette mcconnell so i ain't even go a little harsh. Don't they commit independent. What kind of lifestyle you live. I mean if you live in the suburbs lifestyle fucking last tour that sound about right. That's all like good <hes> tony four and under tight. I mean not even we live in the thirties. I'll be i'll go ooh girls on the floor. Not i'm just getting them all getting that. Get nizam bedroom right here. Baby gonna have to do also elsie kerr's browsing emails grip for this. I mean if you live in like that in this time on that i i think you have to have some sort of rules. You know what i mean. You have to have like if you need to check on tender. You meet a chick at the at the bar or something like that alone and she come over to your house. You bedroom can be like you know. She could be scope national out do what you're saying that it's just like yeah. It's like a little taller than yeah. You know what i mean. It's more so like but surprising you know what i mean surprised when he was surprisingly enough <hes> tom girls like game. Fuck don't in any way you know what i mean. They go back until your friends like all. It took him seventeen minutes talking to someone. I wanted to give me right when i came in the door. That was playing somewhere who want to drink nothing. I don't want us is making me yeah so i mean you got to ending. Say fifty fifty is probably lakes seventy thirty back not as good if you situation. I mean you know what i mean like if you back at the curb if you you know if we're talking about that type situation doing that you know what i mean. What's your thought that was always my room jonah if you're in my house also on my bed and national okay so what are some of y'all like hookup rules. You have any hookup. Mine is don't don't play down. Don't come from our house nor everybody hookup dot com prepared. 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That's funny no but i ain't this disco heart might be worried about if i wanna go home in the middle of the night or something like that like cars or some crazy shit light boot already there you might as well stay so you can get in the morning and then you go home then go morning boy get out different afr- sober yeah. That's where you know you bought. The let me see what they really want exactly last night today. I've got the time to pass out no right to sleep right to sleep biggest. Y'all ever done anything crazy sex man. I tell this story this girl uh like i thought i was about to go and i just peed spot. I didn't i caught it. I like it was like skirted took. No thought coming. I'll i'll there's a lot i mean no matter how much pissing there's a lot of people in our member. Some girls like that man does ask it got right. Let gutty one upstairs she. They never know you ain't never had happy might be like oh. Shit man was square or something like that. There's some girls like that. 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She kicked you out. No i was it was like in the daytime lights to ivanhoe relationships ascites my uh-huh our date you you my girl. No oh my god really yes. She sees as initially then we'll have it right. We broke manley remember. What have you done this high school. Ooh bad as hell what i gotta. Do you gotta dayton that. I wanna relationship. I say yeah so. I mean that's crazy. That's great. I don't think i've done nothing crazy for sexual craziest thing to do art stocks me. We're for mass. I the jews had a soccer yeah. Don't that's what i'm talking about actually got the lanes. Have they know so. He technically stalked me after the fact baucus inclusive now so he i'm talking like he hasn't flowers to my house. We don't know to this day how he got address like i lived in ohio at the time he lived or he went to school at oatlands blance cook at work. Take a car and they don't come back. They share uh-huh everything dollar one dollars gotcha movie. That's crazy so you do yeah so he was. He sent flowers a few times to my house. <hes> i haven't gentleman. This is stock stock in line. Now i'm okay. He kept texting me like kept tax at this point. He was like having a conversation with his self. Okay so paragraphs like i just love you. I wanna be with you all that and yes so block that number. He calls me. Maybe like two or three days later from another phone number like i know you blocked my phone number but i just really did it to talk to you like did you not get the hint block on instagram. He messes me through somebody else's instagram graham it was a mess it was from my then went on from like for maybe like four weeks so he got got this. He got the draws though before he was crazy claw no i they didn't i think he just wanted to be with me like that and that's not what i was on time. He's he's got to enjoy them. Sometimes you just gotta be like it was just not that. It was just different. Prolonged goes is no what i'm talking about is like dude bag a bad one. If you get somebody who really really like trying to be like which he would you just gotta enjoy being mean joe. It is then keep moving your arm. Eh skins interview kindle. Let's talk about you yong goings. Let's talk about the sheep. She pellets about it. I've been talking about the chief hal at all for like twenty four hours. People work raskin by talking about it so start catching job which is great. It's amazing but still it's just weird but i've been talking about it so much <hes> but about the sheep palate okay <hes> so tell you the name really came to me like yeah and initially so when i was in college i had a group it was through my church at verse <hes> but it was more for like high school girls called the pretty girl project <hes> and it was really like mentoring it was <hes> just kind of an outlet for like like high school girls as they were transitioning in college and then <hes> from there that started like that started into a blog <hes> and i just kind of wanted to mature a little uh. I didn't want it to be that. I wanted to kinda just be more me and my element not me trying so hard to give something to somebody else <hes> so i kinda kinda stopped blogging for a while. It was just like you know what when it's time for me to get started again. I'll get started and <hes> was talking to a friend. One day like yeah i've been writing woah woah and literally the name just came to me as i was talking to him so it was <hes> kuwa- kind of dissect it the meaning of it later on yeah yeah and i feel like there are so many different elements of who i am and be wanting to share that and how many different people i've connected with. Just you know sharing that that <hes> you know threw me wanting to do that through the site so girls be working out here man girls owner earlier this month for like. I'm glad we started with the females needs more. Would you lighten they. Let us know like mini. Step our game up to my game but uh i mean it could be a low better but the girls that come on here like for real inspired <hes> the wisdom poets poets. We had <hes> maria maria maria lisi last episode. Excuse me <hes> she's a patent specialist. I watched blockchain. Absolutely she's amazing to those ladies as well. Go check out our previous episodes of more information in concert those ladies as well but you told me that the the name she palette it really compasses like every woman and all women and i thought that was really really dope because pallet your pal. It is different flavors flavor. Exactly it's women absolutely told me different flavors and facebook fresher what they're all beautiful right yeah they are and i think to <hes> just kind of it getting to a place where you accept the fact that you and who you are there so many different elements of who we are and having to <hes> you know except all of those elements. Let's you know <hes> that in itself can sometimes feel like you're like wow mike fourteen different people today like what is like. That's just how we are so oh you know kind of getting to accepting that part and being like okay. I can be fine. I can be silly. I can be serious. I can be sexy. I can be whatever eat man <hes> i i can be calm all that so absolutely yeah stoked israel. Don't you know ladies really you guys really express yourselves. Create like you see some of these. These girls club you blake. That's crazy but she wore. Though you know what i mean she got her house got cheapies out whatever uh dues like t-shirt chain lanzhou you know what i mean just like on different versions of the same thing but you know laser definitely our be at the pool this weekend. They make so much crazy stuff for women to feel. Oh beautiful sco had like glitter like like glitter stuff. She can rub you. Literally literally put some girls but i'm saying women it does. I've thought about the women can do so much. They can get fate as it is but it's a lot of pressure through. Unfortunately there's take a lot of pressure with that or are. We still learning loaded question. Yeah i mean i mean i think in some elements you you kind of always are still learning how to do it and you know how to deal with it but <hes> you definitely just gotta kinda. Just focus on what you have and you know what i mean not compare yourself to anybody else and <hes> just really get to the root of like what you what you are who you are what you like about yourself. You know all of that so that you can be in a place where you don't compare but even then like especially with social. Media is are not too. Sometimes it really is you know what i mean and i think thank <hes> to as women were growing so often you know that in that transition phase sometimes you do start to compare hair. You know sound you have a lot of close girlfriends and we talked about that a bit how you know sometimes i've noticed in. I don't know what you guys. <hes> women struggle to find close female relationships relationships because it seemed to be bicker real easily whereas like us dues given the go ahead nine. We could you know what i mean early. Bickering said women have different personalities so a lot of shit. Don't click like ours to hate each other but like if they see each other exactly as they are. I hate you. You know you really own that was good but you talked about how you have some close friends in how so <hes> you managed to do that by keeping by being low maintenance realizing our friendships would be different and <hes> having lords stations allowed him to play the roles. You talk to me a little bit of nope yeah so actually even kind of like peggy off of what you said. I think sometimes it's hard for women keep friendships because as we expect a whole lot at you know what i mean like we even when it comes to like the comparing and things i think women we are more worried about other women that we are about men. You know we could care less honestly about jal israeli about each other. You know what i mean like. Not the child are not a factor at all that will be alive but it's mostly about other women. You know now you can talk about women that you can't talk about it. It's a lot of stuff you can talk about women and she can't talk about what us yeah so <hes> yeah. I think that that's one of the reasons to but <hes> i think what my friendships it took time to get there it you. Did you took time to get there and it. It's still taking time to get there because all my friendships aren't like that. Shall i say not that bad but <hes> i do have some higher maintenance friendships and i do you know others and that's fine but i think just not expecting too much out of them. You know what i mean not asking them to be anything to me other than who they are and that's hard sometimes rough but <hes> you gotta try is that he's got to eat alarm among away game journey radio. You don't mind me <hes> you said. Is you the most important women in your life. Were you started by saying yourself and those really doe panzer unexpected expected. <hes> tell me more about that. <hes> you know right now. I feel like i'm in a season of my life where mentally emotionally financially like every aspect for the most part. I'm just growing like every day. I'm seeing a new aspect of like thinking or a new angle. I can meet thinking of something or just a new way of like creativity. That's being expressed you know all that and just right now really wanted to take advantage of that and accepting that this is the season for me to essentially focus on me. You know what i mean and just <hes> sees that plant it. Let them come into fruition and you know really you get to business to what i'm saying. So that's why i've allowed myself to be a little more selfish right now yeah so that would definitely it was really really wise <hes> sometimes it's hard to just walks in yourself. You got people that we love you. We care about friends family. Things like that not from amo amo no. I'll take time for sound yeah sometimes i. I will admit that i've put others before my own means. Honestly i took a lot from what wayne do wayne. I'll be by what he wanna. Do people notice where i'm going to be. If you want to hang out with me where i'm going to be you know what i mean like right. I'll take that model or selling loose. I feel like for me. I'm never been a person that didn't do what i wanted to do. You know what i mean but definitely trying to stretch myself to be fair for everybody while i was trying to do what i wanted to do sometimes left me pulling the short short end of the stick when you look at it in the long run. You know what i'm saying <hes> yeah so i think that would be an even may be <hes> like emotionally. You know what i mean trying to be there for everybody to which can be draining so like you said not having expectations like sometimes people do expect auto people counselor bank desert. Don't ask sometimes just like. I have my own shit on i got to you know what i mean yeah. How has detroit inspired you. You know i moved back here in may i've been in ohio since i graduated high school for the most part so like last four or five years ago to university of toledo and <hes> rockets what's <hes> i never thought about it in a way of like detroit's inspired me but now that you ask i think just the movement just the what's the word i'm looking for the momentum. Yes the mementos. I think right now especially like are millennials of our black young chemo right now. It's like like everybody. It's just doing like hi doing shit. You know what i mean like and it's almost like you can't not get on. This wave like you can't do it. You can't you cannot so yeah for sure for sure and i love like i even hear. Sometimes you'll be like people don't support in the city and yada yada and i definitely don't agree with that. No you don't agree with that. Yes it's a lot of support like a lot of people. Don't really hang out like and this area or you know. Other parts of the city like the skit like it's crazy was gonna like everybody like i know so many black people that are well black millennials that are just doing so much for like like music. My friends shannon like he works for the federal reserve like he does stuff within within the city is crazy seeing all that and being like my ages ages like man i i should be trying to do stuff like that like stuff around the city so it yeah it's crazy again. I feel like a lot of people always ask. Why are we always like in the city or while. We always sleep already doing events in the city and stuff like that. I think is more than just partying is more than just you know the girls and stuff like that. It's the whole energy man. It's the whole vibe attorney like she said. It's just like the hassle bind. You know what i mean. You have no choice but to catch on or or get left. It's easy to no offense took a suburban areas and all that stuff but as easy to move out there and get comfortable and feel safe and all that shit apart of don here is just makes you feel like you know i gotta get. They got to keep moving forward. I got to figure out what's going on in the streets. You know what i mean figure out what people listening to figure people doing how people making money you know what i mean. See the how people live in absolutely you know what i want to be part of the new the new scenery. I wanna be a part in clubs. I wanna be a part of the new you know apartments town homes or houses that's being built on going onto and i was my mom. Mom was just talking to me about more volunteering. You're i mean we should definitely hit the product podcast listeners listen up but we definitely have eaten my calling for you guys to join us in our volunteer efforts. Helping cities good causes so stay tuned for that <hes> kindle. I've seen that done taking a lot of dough pictures in the city the city on a dope backdrop for you some of you both your fashion sense and how the developed that you know. I feel like i feel like i'm still developing it. Honestly you know okay and just getting more comfortable doing certain things. I can't tell you how many times i've put together. Outfits have been like maybe not i mean like in the past and now bucket like let's try it. Let's see <hes> so for sure and i <hes> i judge a person i like. I want to have as i am today. I wanna have heels on. I wanna feel cute and sexy but i wanna be comfortable like like i wanna be able to sit and breathe and all of that so that's definitely a big thing when it comes into my style. I do not want to be uncomfortable. I'm not one of them. Girls don't do not at all but yeah and tiana taylor or some of your inspirations. They are are they. Are we went for you as we've been telling you the smile but she i might you deserve an award. I did not know she was talented. As she is like. Yeah doesn't really play that role on little to our say. Let's drug drug addict or yes. That's probably it was a real. I mean not real but i'm sure she's been around it together. Please mckay is like a arts right l._g. Smith or something think so yeah yeah but <hes> yeah i love is in data and she's is a lot more sophisticated now. Shall we say in her styles on getting there. I'm gonna get on that way but i loved her like back in the day okay when she would just rock cargoes and a crop and you're not i mean it was a little more like tomboyish but still had four years yeah but i think even she still oh had kind of like a sexy swag to her. You know what i mean and that's my style evolution. That's really honestly what i aim for. I'm to be totally honest with you. Do you have a favorite piece like bags shoes jacket overall my favorite. Mike item our shoes sure. I don't have a favorite pair of shoes right now though so yeah it's the new season's coming okay. I need to shop for fall so ask ask me and a few months. I have facial bistros. Favorite martian problem of black jeans means aware with everything black jeans as i just wear blue jeans with one pair or a couple. I got a couple of different fair. I started to do that like give multiple. Pseudo pieces are using these alexa season so real quick for you. Wrap up <hes> tell us about <hes>. Would you got coming up this weekend. Trip art. Yes trap art. It is august twenty third at club blue in detroit. <hes> i wanna say i'm almost positive. This is the first one that they've ever done in detroit. <hes> so it'll be an all out of local artists <hes> fashion artists all kinda artsy stuff going on <hes> a fashion show and then it turned into a lot more like a party you know after that but we're going to be a clue on what we're very cool yeah. I'm excited. She'll be the relics definitely. Check it out to blow okay. Can we really really appreciate you being here with us. The super dope <hes> tell people where they can find you paycheck having me. I am on instagram the antidote at the she palate <hes> yeah i think that's so follower pushing log. She valley dot com though she bella dot com as well yes <hes> wayne jason taylor boys tila fans till the listeners where they can find us donna rahmat wayne be. I got the cars again. That's got wayne be you can find me at underscore. Jason johnson underscored. I'm getting too. I'm trying positive story should at the at the product podcast on instagram. We again just spotify. I tunes spot soundcloud allowed you to so <hes> our land you could find us on twitter as well at the product pot three <hes>. We really appreciate you listening to an end. The says ben episode seven of the product podcasts do the.

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BGN Radio #23: Eagles-Giants Preview Spectacular

Bleeding Green Nation

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BGN Radio #23: Eagles-Giants Preview Spectacular

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Hello, bleeding, green nation and welcome back to radio this episode number twenty three happy thanksgiving everybody. I'm John Stolnis from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. And we're recording this on thanksgiving night so up everybody enjoyed their thanksgiving meal. Whether you're with family, or with friends hope it was a wonderful time for you. And that you've got to watch some football. I have some Turkey or whatever it is. Because lot of anti-turkey takes. I'm seeing on Twitter this year for some reason, which is mind boggling to me. But anyway, maybe we'll get into all that here. Coming up in the next few minutes as we do. Our eagles giants preview for this Sunday afternoon. Joining me as he does every week to break down the coming weeks opponent is the man the mid the legend, the brains behind the operation may he reign forever. Brennan league out from leading green nation dot com. G how you doing buddy John always good to be here with you not always good to be talking about eagles. Unfortunately, however, every time we do a podcast now, John it just keeps getting Dr. Worker darker because there can we talk about something else. Do we have permission like could we could we talk about food about? This can be dislike fight episode right here. Season. So but not actually, unfortunately, we we do have to talk about the either thanksgiving personally, some good thanksgiving food. I am on the record. Of course, listeners know that thinks giving food to me is overrated as a food better. And I posted a picture of pizza. I didn't actually eat that pizza today. But I've hosted the picture pizza, and I should as the best thanksgiving days. Just to make everyone mad and then. Yeah. Thankfully, everyone mad. So I win in that regard. But how about you John? How's your thanksgiving? My thanksgiving was good. Although we had a late dinner. And we and we do the Turkey thing in the mashed potatoes staying in. I'm a big stuffing guy, and we had a squash souffle that actually turned out. Really? Well, yeah, it was pretty good. But we didn't eat until about six o'clock, which oh it's insanely later. And normally I we were aiming for five, but sometimes when stuff doesn't work the way, you plan the Turkey just takes longer than you ever envisioned, and we. We were we were roasting Turkey in the big green egg. Do you know what those are like? Okay. So we were roasting Turkey and the big green egg. And we thought it would be done by about five o'clock. But instead it was about six o'clock before we really even got the thing sliced and six fifteen by the time we all sat down, and I've got three little guys. So it was great. We all had a really nice spread and my three boys. My wife, and I were on my at my in-laws house. And it was it was a really nice thanksgiving. So thanks for asking. And again, I hope everybody else had a good thanksgiving too. By the way. I didn't mention follow Brandon on Twitter at Brandon Gouten. We are going to get into our favorite Thanksgiving Day games of all time. And the eagles have played a bunch of Thanksgiving Day games. They had a bunch early in the nineteen eighties. A I think they had a couple another played a bunch recently too. And so there's some good memories to be had from the eagles playing on Thanksgiving Day. Beal let me start with you. What's your best eagles Thanksgiving Day? Memory was sure wasn't on the the crap kicked out of the line was so awful. That was that was the game. We all realise chip Kelly was going to get fired at the end of the season pretty much that was off of that Buchan ears loss, which is so bad. And then it just went to Detroit and discuss steamrolled and men. I just I can clearly remember what I did after that game. Like, I just did very basic post game coverage bleeding Grecian. And then it just went to. Why wa and I basically ordered everything on the menu. A media can't do this. I just have to emotionally I already had thanksgiving food. But like it was late at night. And I was like any more. So certainly wasn't that one. But for me, it has to be the two thousand fourteen game against the boys which was a really big at the time. And I think that was kind of the beginning of the end of the chip Kelly in the sense of like that was when it peaked. No such a great win. We all thought they were gonna go to the playoffs a really legitimate win over the Cowboys in Dallas there. It was great. The Cowboys were getting so much hype going into that one. Like the best often the line NFL history. That's on that started. And he goes defense went in there that offensive line's civically that member after the game Bennie Logan had talked about how they call themselves. The nobody's because nobody knew who the Fletcher Cox and Bennie Logan and Senator Thornton where they aren't getting all that hype. But they had just pretty much demolished that Cowboys often to line those getting all the hype. So I really liked that one. That was really fun. It was Mark Sanchez to right? Who was the quarterback for that game? Which is crazy. Wow. Looking back on it was two thousand fourteen. Yes. Oh, I remember that this being really fun like that night. Obviously things didn't go. So well after that but that was really enjoyable. Yeah. The eagles collapse after that didn't make the playoffs. Even though I think they went did they tendency to make the playoffs because they lost. I was at the Washington game where they were. They couldn't do anything offensively. You know in DC uttered in game. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I was brutal. I was that was absolutely brutal. And but yeah that Thanksgiving Day game was great my favorite all-time Thanksgiving Day game. I go back a little bit further was nineteen Eighty-nine the bounty bowl. And I remember this like it was yesterday. Eagles eagles shut out the Cowboys twenty seven nothing. This was during that one in fifteen Cowboys season Jimmy Johnson's first season with the team Troy Aikman's rookie season. And now is the game that Johnson alleged that Buddy Ryan had taken out of bounty on Troy Aikman and former eagles kicker Luiz day Haas. Ryan, of course denied it. After the game. You know, you say like, you know, why would we put a bounty on day us? He stinks right now. I mean, it was kind of funny, and then we don't really ever know whether or not Ryan actually had a bounty on these players or not I think it was in two thousand fourteen Johnson joke that Ryan put up the bounty offer of one hundred dollars on those players for the eagles to just stay interested in the game because Dallas was terrible. But that to me was just their huge fights and brawls in that game. There was a bench clearer after how there was some kind of some kind of defensive play where it got really rough and the eagles defense and it just ended up in a brawl in the end zone. This was at the height of Buddy, Ryan buddy Ryan's. I mean, this is the these are the games that made Buddy Ryan what he is in in this city. Why he's forever loved in the city where these these wars against the Cowboys. And this was really the first time in anyone's memory that the eagles were the dominant team in the Cowboys were the also rans and that would quickly change, obviously. Because Jimmy Johnson in the Cowboys were bad for one year. And then they quickly got got themselves to. Gather over the next few years after that. But that to me was that was my favorite Thanksgiving Day game of all time shutting out the Cowboys in Dallas, you know, get the Cowboys coach crying about the game afterwards, man. That's a good Thanksgiving Day adds a good Thanksgiving Day game, man. I feel we need more of that. Obviously not going to happen as NFL. But you just you know, you wish the rivalry was there to that extent. And speaking of the Cowboys, John they they played today. They yeah, we're gonna get into this today. And I mean, it's weird. I'm gonna say, unfortunately, they won. Because I think that's always how you should pretty much say when he talked about the Cowboys winning. It's it's. Unfortunate thing. But like in this weird situation dealers find themselves in now with they're still alive in the ceased and with Washington, obviously being ahead of Dallas and eagles and everyone else heading into this. There's a thinks giving game. Now, it's tied up at six and five. And the are still alive. I'm to hear it. I actually no I know to here because you just want to be out of their misery. Not a lot going to happen team that no with all due respect to been limited from WIP. Who's a very nice, man. And does a great job. But he posted a tweet this week. That was like, you know, I think it's realistic. You know, he he laid out like the path of the you'll have to go through here to make the playoffs which we can get into a little bit here. But how can you say it's realistic? If there are there's a stretch in there that you'll have to win three games in a row, and they haven't won back to back games. All yearly. How realistic is that? I'm not saying that it's impossible. But like, what are you putting the chances of that happening at this point? Yeah. Can't be very high and can't be. So how are you feeling John? It's unlikely for sure and I just don't see unless the secondary gets very healthy soon how it can happen. But here's the. Path the foreign six eagles could be tied in first place could be tied for first place in eleven days. If they beat the giants on Sunday and the Cowboys get the saints next Thursday night. So it's certainly more than likely that they're gonna lose to the saints. And if the eagles beat the Redskins on Monday night football on December third everybody's tied. And so it really is under two weeks in two games. If the eagles win two in a row against the giants who let's face. It still aren't very good. The giants didn't get a whole lot better during this eagles tumble. I mean, the giants are Marg maybe marginally better as they figure out some additional things to do with saquon barley, but not saquon Barkley, but not much better if at all, and so yes, the eagles have stumbled these last two weeks in a big way. But I don't think the giants have gotten a lot better than eagles can beat the giants on Sunday, and we're gonna get into that game. And just a couple of minutes. I think the Cowboys are gonna lose to the saints next Thursday night, and I watched Colt McCoy play today b l g I don't see guy there who. Really anybody any confidence in Washington that he can lead that team to a winning record over these last few weeks. I think the Redskins probably are better than the eagles right now even with Colt McCoy at quarterback. But I don't know if it's a lot, you know. And so there is a path. There is a path in front of the eagles in. It's not a crazy path only because this division is dirt right now, man. Yeah. And the key thing there's the eagles do control their destiny. Just right care in you can be here. Now, you look at what the eagles would be. I mean, it'd be huge game. If it's eagles Cowboys week fourteen. They're both six and six of that point game. And let's say eagles win. I don't know if they will a lot of confidence in that. But I'm just saying let's just pretend they do. So they would be seven six of that point. And the Cowboys would be six and seven heading into week fifteen of that point you'll have to play the Rams and then the Texans. So that could be tough, but the Washington. In week seventeen. So even if the eagles go one in to their Cowboys could still do to in one they have the colts home against the buccaneers who were very bad of. I dunno. James? Winston looked good against the giants. Who knows? And then at the giants Luik seventeen. So even I think how you know, you could realistically say they probably might go to in one there possibly even three now, which would be bad Goodwin. All those let's say just two and one all that point the stole the tiebreaker. So my point there being like don't even have to get super hot after beating the Cowboys of they could do that somehow in week fourteen. They just kind of have to get that one last division win week seventeen and they potentially win then us to eight which wouldn't be the most impressive thing ever. But hey, I'm sure they would take it at that point. And of course, now, go ahead. I was gonna say, yeah, they finish eight Nate at four and six that's a nice way to finish. The, you know, it's not bad. But it's just like it's you know, you're gonna go into the playoffs. They're gonna get whipped. Probably most likely if not in the first round certainly by who the Rams are the saints whoever they would play if they somehow the playoff game. But and then just kind of looking at how Washington fits in there because they're comb Koi, clearly stinks. But I mean, they're still six five. So they're certainly in the mix here they have at obviously the eagles coming up for this Monday night football game, which is a huge game than they play. Homies the giants than they play to road games against a c south teams. Saw there at Jacksonville at the titan. So that could easily I think they're they're probably tensely losing at least one of those three between the trip wars titans. And then they play the eagles at home in their season. Finale. Theirselves eagles be them twice. I think they pretty much need Washington to destroy. Drop one of those giants jars titans games because then that would ensure that they can't get to nine wins there. So that's looking pretty possible. If news the struggle here. So it's all there. It's all there for them. I don't have a lot of confidence. They're going to be able to do it. But it's there the window of opportunity is there. It's just a matter of if they can seize it in I wouldn't count on it right now. But we'll see. No, it's insane that at four and six they control their own destiny to make the postseason still at this point. I mean, that's lunacy. But that's what we have in front of us right now. And that's why a couple of weeks ago. I talked about the two thousand sixteen because they were five and six and didn't appear to have any chance whatsoever. They had started off the season for in one. So they had actually won back to back games early in the season. But then went on a long losing streak. They lost Donovan McNabb. It didn't look like they had a chance they had three straight road games against divisional. Opponents. They had the they had the giants. Redskins. Cowboys back to back to back all on the road in one all three of those games. When it didn't look like they were they had any chance at all. They were dead in the water then too. So that's the only reason why I remembered two thousand six is because they had that run of divisional games at the end of the season where they actually still control their own destiny. That's what's facing this team in front of them. They have they have their fate in front of them. And they they have their franchise quarterback who still healthy. They they have an offense be LG, which will get into it. If you minutes that you would think should be able to score. But you know, I just I it it's it hasn't happened, and you and Michael kissed it a great BGN radio a couple of days ago talking about the state of the team right now how it doesn't seem like the coaching staff has any idea what they're doing Mike grow is obviously under fire hard to see how he comes back next year after his golden Tate comments, and you just wonder where this where this football team is right now heading into this game against the giants. Because you've got you've got the Redskins with Colt McCoy. Oy out. I don't know if you saw the Adrian Peterson interview that he did this week where mentioned once again that he is using corporal punishment on his son with a belt this switch the exactly got suspended for the season for four years ago or yes, four years ago. I I haven't heard anything about the NFL looking into this or anything like that. But they Adrian Peterson for any length of time. I I don't know how Washington recovers from any of that. So Washington's future is uncertain. I'm still not a real believer in Dallas. Although I gotta tell you LG watching that offense now with Amari Cooper in there that looks like a different offense at the moment. They actually have a receiver who can stretch the field quite interesting, by the way that Dallas has been able to figure out a way to implement Amari Cooper as the eagles coaching staff has struggled to figure out a way to use golden Tate. Oh my God. I can't get over that quotas still. It's so horrible. It can't live that Dan. It's just really to me. It is just micro say. Saying that I am not good at my job. Not like on purpose, obviously isn't trying to say that. But it's to me. It's what he's saying. So yeah know, my job is hard basically gnarly good head clearly making the football players play. Really good hard. So that's really frustrating. But yeah, it's obviously it's being frustrating. Same feeling watching the Cowboys play better here on offense, obviously, Amari Cooper, is helping. I just hate still Dak Prescott gets a lot of like hype. All of a sudden because he always are winning like to me like he's just checking down the field the whole game. It's not really like. Oh, my it's not this magical thing. It's not this like this is a league quarterback or watching right here. This is a quarterback who is what he is. He is a game manager. He if you give him a very elite running game the Cowboys have then he's going to be able to Lincoln dunk and ultimately avoid the turnovers and help the team ways. He's got a great defense backing up to. Forcing turnovers giving him short field. Which is something. Carson Wentz has not had the benefit Carson Wentz that he had that he'd be doing a lot more with it in my opinion. And that's something certainly that they're lacking. Again, only seven takeaways ten games. It's really bad think it's able and then the inconceivable as hood say. The lack of running game. I mean, that's always been a pet peeve for me, as you know, going back to the draft a couple of years ago and not getting running back and really just wanting them. And you're seeing that we're seeing that they've no real running threat. I mean, Josh Adams is the best thing they have going for them. And that's just not good in credited, Josh Adams. He's played well in small sample size. That's when we must note that like it's not like he has the shocker all of a sudden and even Seattle like I just think he's a limited player. And that's not me hating on Josh Adams, Josh Adams. I'm excited to see what he can do with more touches. But I mean, let's be real like he doesn't have this track record of being a big receiving threat. I know you three catches for nineteen receptions against the saints. Like, okay, that's fine. And. The eye test doesn't seem to be there with him in sense of like, you're not writing this guy. Twenty carries a game. Like, he's not. I just don't see him suddenly emerging into this feature back. It'll be great. I mean unhappy to be wrong about that. I just I don't see that. I mean, he had to leave the saints game at some point because he's still dealing with that foot issue. That's been bothering him. Apparently since he's been drafted to get that wrapped up again. So I don't know. But just looking at each other teams who can rely on the run game and get into some of these manageable situations where it's third in four or third in two instead of thirty nine all the time. And and you know, they're running on first down all of a sudden, it's the second in ten and there's no running threat at all teams are not scared of the run at all. That's frustrating. And you know, what I what I noticed when I wrote my piece about the running game last week was it was not the first down rushing. That was the problem you compare the first down rushing from last year and this year on the average yards per tempt. It's it's virtually the same. It's the second down Russian attempt. The the rush the running game on second down has been far worse this year. And that's what's really put this team into longer. Third-down opportunities that the running game on second down has has not been productive. And I don't know what the purpose of that would be whether it's just play design. Whether it's just the offense the line not healthy enough to string together to good offensive running plays in a row what it is challenging the run the ball ferry Jing Sheng challenge. Geez. Man. That's that's his for who for what man he's not coming back from that note. Probably not only at all. But yeah. Very true. Well, listen, this is a this is a division that is still progress in and the Cowboys by all means are not perfect, and they have they have the saints next week. So I mean, you're looking at a you're looking at a Cowboys team that's likely going to be six and six after next week. No matter how good they're playing right now. Give them credit three game winning streak right now against the eagles against the falcons and now against Washington. Those are those are three games that they add to win in order to get themselves back into it. And as bad as they looked before they are playing much better football now. And right now, they have to be the favorites to win the division here at the moment. So obviously a lot of football after shake out here in the NFC east. Let's look ahead to the giants game a little bit here on Sunday be LG and take a quick look at the injury report. And one of the big reasons why you don't feel good about this game. I would feel a lot better. If the secondary had at least one of the four players that you thought would get regular playing time this season healthy all four their top Cornerbacks missed practice on Thursday. Jalen mills. Sidney Jones Russell Douglas and Valentine Maddox all did not practice. If one or any of the none of those guys are able to go on Sunday. The eagles will have a cornerback trio of Channon Sullivan. Devante Bosley and craven LA blunt as their quarterbacks none of whom was on this team's roster as of week seven B L J. And I know he li- manning sucks. But even Eli manning can beat that trio that suppressing man, Mike that makes sense, bad luck. And I think. I forget what I heard so is really bad sourcing here. But someone was talking about how the it's not just about like how the eagles got hurt. But it's like where they are this year. Like right last year. Yeah. They'd some high profile injuries. Jordan hicks. Carson wentz. Obviously during scrolls Jason Peters. But it's not like they lost five guys at one position. That's what literally aren't the right now are without their top five Cornerbacks round arby's on a our jail. Mills is probably not playing this week. Sidney Jones is not playing this week and maybe resolve Douglas or onto Mannix one of those maybe might play, but they haven't practiced on Wednesday and Thursday in usually this not a good sign. We'll see on the Friday injury report. Maybe there's some kind of hope, but even if they play I mean, how long are they even going to be able to last? It doesn't seem like they're healthy. They could easily get hurt again or maybe on game day before they're working out before the game. It's kinda like the going through their pre game workout on. It's kind of like a no go. Because they can't they can't do it like they're not healthy enough. So really tough spot. I mean, what even do if one of those three guys who are able to play gets hurt. I don't even know like just throw a wide receiver at corner. Now. I have to see that. Yeah. Like some Troy Brown stuff. Maybe put golden Tate in there. That's a good way to get involved. The see if he end maybe cover the slot. I don't know. But it's. Yeah. I mean, the the patriots used to do that with. Julia Nederland if I'm not mistaken. So I mean crazy things have happened at least make the season a little bit more fun. I guess, but yeah, it's bad that. And when you add in the fact that, you know, Rodney mcleod's out to you're just missing so much of your secondary there and. The giants offense has shown some life recently. And I just think that they're going to be able to have some success here. I don't think New York is suddenly a juggernaut because they've won these last two games. I mean, you have to consider they beat the Nick Mullins 49ers by four points than they beat the Ryan Fitzpatrick who got Ben st- buccaneers by three points. I know that you'd lost to the bucks, obviously. But cut like Patrick clearly hunting better than than he was against the giants here. So, you know, not a great team by any means the giants. It's not about that. But but that's exactly what it is like to me. It's exactly how the Super Bowl was for me. When I just thought it's not about the patriots. It's just about the eagles or the better team. That's what is about. And to me this week. It's not about the giants being that also in looking at that. It's like, I don't even think about that part so much. It's just the eagles are so bad right now and like so in their own head and. They're averaging two point one points in the first quarter the seasons, which is ridiculous. Although I will note that fourteen of those twenty one points in the first ten games in the first quarter. Gimme the giants the sixteen. Are we six rather? So that's encouraging maybe. But it's hard to feel good about this team. In like, I'm a million trying to be negative about it. I just I don't see saying the kissed the other day. What do you feel good about? What do you feel good about right now with this team? And it's not just the blow loss to the saints. It's just again like you look at the tracker dis- Twenty-one first quarter points. That's pathetic. As clearly just something beyond like that lock in and whatever that's not enough of a sample size to say, there's a real issue there. It's last in the league. It's terrible. So I'm not feeling good about this one heading into Sunday, regardless of the giants being good or bad, or whatever you wanna label them what's been disappointing as much as the secondary. And you know, you can only do so much when you've got this many guys getting hurt. But the way you can take some pressure off of the secondary Sullivan and Bosbian LeBlanc is by having your defensive line get consistent pressure, and what we haven't seen as the defensive line do that. Now, they're getting TIMMY Jernigan back. This we meal g and. I don't know how much that's going to help because he hasn't played it all this year. But he's been at practice for the last couple of weeks, and what we've seen is that teams have taken to double and triple teaming Fletcher Cox in the middle because they haven't had to worry about whoever Fletcher Cox has been lined up next to and we haven't seen. No. We Michael Bennett has been getting consistent pressure on the quarterback. But we haven't seen consistent pressure from Brandon Graham, we haven't seen consistent pressure from Chris long. I it's been you've got some older players now on the defensive line with Derek Barnett being out for the season that the defensive line is supposed to get to the quarterback. It get that push up the middle to help disrupt ally manning or whoever the quarterback is get his feet moving. And then maybe four some passes that can get intercepted or knocked down or at least get the giants or whoever it is. They happen to be playing out of their rhythm. And we haven't seen the defensive line do that with any consistency over these last few weeks that may be getting to me. Back will help in that regard a little bit a little bit more push up the middle having to pay attention to someone else on that defensive line in the interior. Maybe gets Fletcher Cox loose a little bit and a little bit more active in the run game stopping Barkley in the backfield and getting some pressure on manning would sure hope so I I don't think it's realistic to expect to joining into come in here in play his normal workload just because that doesn't to be the norm for this team. They always talk about working guys in in terms of like kinda tweaking the snap count there. I don't they rarely hunted. Just like all right. You've been out of commission for a long time. Now, you're back. One hundred percent debt doesn't really happen. So I mean, he's going to be limited to some extent. And obviously, we don't kind of know where he's at in terms of what players are you going to be the be the guy that we saw more in the first half last season who was really good and impactful or is the be the guy in the second half who kinda invisible or the master terrible with this wasn't really making much of. Impact on a weekly basis. So we'll see I have much confidence. He's better than TI McGill or Trayvon Hester in there. So that's good. But yeah, I mean you're talking about needing the Pasha to setup. Absolutely. The giants offense. Align is a little different than the last time. The you'll saw them they have John Brown in there. Now who started a believe seen games with the Rams last year? Like how bad can he really be? If you do that for a really good offense last year. I also think the Spencer pulley, and you know, that's kinda elevated they're often to line from being a straight up dumpster fire to at least kind of more serviceable, and it has at the very least has improved. What extent like not drastically necessarily? But it is somewhat better. It's not like you have what was the name Patrick Oma may in there who like Fletcher Cox was just like destroying week six. So unfortunately, eagles don't have that going for them. But you know, it's not just the secondary. That's a big issue here. Obviously, that's the point of tension. When you when you have those quarterbacks that you do when you're going up against Odell Beckham and Ingram now who again was not active for the first game. So something to worry. But the running game is a really big issue this week because this run defense all of a sudden is not very good. I mean Zeki Llewellyn went off for one hundred fifty one yards in a touchdown against the eagles in week, Tim and then Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara combined for one hundred seventy four rushing yards in two touchdowns on twenty nine carries last week against the saints. So I mean, we saw the Quan Barclay do some big things the defense in week six when in theory the run defense was looking a lot better earlier on the season. It is not looking very good right now as looking extremely vulnerable. So with Barclay. You know being here. His presence to me is just as scary as going up against. Jay, no doubt. No doubt about it. And I the giants definitely are even though they're coming into Lincoln financial field. They definitely do feel like a scarier team. At the moment that home field advantage in Philadelphia simply has not been there over their their last three games. A couple other quick injury. Things to note about Jordan Hicks, did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday of this week. So I guess G kind of question. He's out. Okay. That's great news. Wonderful awesome. Nigel Brad him back in the middle where he excelled last year. Yeah. Yes. A good point. I didn't think about that. I guess it would be him in probably you've Kamu. I think they rotated Gary a little bit in there to split with Kamu next Brad him. So we'll see how that goes. I mean, maybe I like that theory that may be moving Brad him back to the middle. Maybe you'll get a little bit more out of him. Because you know, we haven't really seen him much this season. And he was a lot more productive last year. Maybe it's that will turn into anything. And it's kinda just you know in our head to think about. But yeah, I mean, that's again that's going to be something to watch. Because again, the giants not only were they without ever Ingraham are also without red Ellison in that first game. So basically they were their top two tight ends in their tight ends like warrant any kind of factor in the game at all he didn't even have to worry about them. That's going to be different this time around. And of course, Darren sproles is still out. Stop me. If you've heard that one. Let's get into some matchups here. You know, we talked. We already talked about the wide receivers for the giants going up against the secondary. We've talked about whether or not to me Jernigan, we'll have any what will be any big help stopping the run or getting pressure on ally. Manning, I think one of the things that the giants have been doing a little bit more over these last few weeks l g is using Barkley out of the backfield as a receiver starting to use him a little bit more aside. From just swing passes and stuff is starting to use him a little bit more up the field, which is smart. I mean getting that guy into space. However, you can do it is really smart. And you know, I think I just have have memories of Tiki barber doing that kind of stuff against this team year in and year out. And obviously if Jordan Hicks is not in their Nigel Brad him, and the the linebackers are going to have their hands full with Barclay out of the backfield as well as runner. Yeah. I think this is kinda disconnect to shootout for the honestly, I don't I don't. See how you're expecting to lock down. This giants offense right now, you're going to have to somehow find a way to match them. And that's, you know, not a very exciting or necessarily realistic proposition. When you consider again how much eagles offense is struggling for as much as we expected them to allow a lot of points last week to the saints main to score seven points. Just pathetic that saints is not that good where you should only be scoring seven points. In a big reason why the offense struggled obviously Carson Wentz. And he has to be better. And it would be great to see him come out and even win or lose. I mean, obviously you wanna see him win but win or lose. You just like I would love to see him. Go toe-to-toe. We haven't seen that a lot. You know, you saw what the saints were talking about earlier this week in that Peter King piece about how Carson Wentz says he's what like one in eleven in games where the eagles score twenty or. The scores more than twenty six points to believe. So basically saying that like he hasn't been able to win shootout. So be nice to see him to kind of the team on his back in when a shootout here than to actually get golden Tate incorporated into the offense will be great. So I think that's what it's going to have to be there kind of just going to have to somehow hope to put up points. I mean, they clearly put points against the giants last time they played them that doesn't necessarily guarantee they'll do it again. But you know, kind of gives you some kind of hope that they might be able to scheme up something here. This giants pass rushes still really bad. Like, I think I kinda just lied right there in calling it a pass rush because really rush the passer, they're actually their second best pass rusher in terms of saxes here Kerry win he's going to be out for this game likely so other even a little bit thinner than they usually would be. So that's the thing. You would think that Carson isn't going to see as much pressure in this game. And hopefully, he can take advantage of that put some points up. You know, it'd be nice if it wasn't a shootout on if you could stop the Jain somehow just don't see. And I think it's going to have. Be that situation. So that's the case. Hopefully, it's entertaining game. Because that's another thing that's bothering the heck out of me this year. This team hasn't even fun to watch. Like the giants game that week six was the only game to me that was like really fun. I mean, maybe you can put the falcons game behind that. Because you know, it was the opener and all this hope, and you knew Nick foles was going to be in there. So you had some expectation could be ugly. You know, you could have a bad game. And ultimately, those a fun result, of course, 'cause they won in the same fashion that the earlier against the falcons in the divisional round. But besides that, I mean, it's just that spin that giant scheme and everything else has been kinda miserable. So it'd be nice to have at least some fun lately. Let's talk about Carson just just a little bit. Because really he had been playing very well up until these last two games statistically. But I mean, even you could see he was he was struggling in third downs and struggling inside the red zone, but moving the team up and down the field, and in increasing completion percentage increasing is yards per tempt yards per. Completion. But yes, something's missing this year. Engineers Jenkins touched on it. A little bit talking about went says a different player right now because he's not using his legs. And what's interesting is that in his first game against the colts. Really is first couple of games this year. We saw him make some plays with his legs escape ability from Wednesday getting out of the pocket running a little bit more. And obviously he's not doing that right now. And part of that. I would imagine it's because maybe there is some residual concern about his knee wants to try and stay healthy doesn't trust it. Andre present. I he would never say that. I'm sure but there's something missing with Carson Wentz his game right now where we're hearing more criticism of Carson over these over these last couple of weeks. He's the golden boy in Philadelphia, no doubt about that. But obviously when you play as badly as he did in New Orleans against the defense that isn't very good. And yes, the eagles running running back situation is bad. They lost Jae Jao in Darren sproles hasn't been there all year, Corey Clement. Who knows what the hell is happened with him. But he doesn't have any running game. To rely on. That's really hurt him in a big way because that kills your play action passes. Well, I mean, most of the eagles play action is our peo-. Anyway, it's it's short stuff anyway. But you know, you lose that you lose that a lot of their big plays last year came on play action down the field. And that's that's just not there. The big plays from Carson aren't there. Everything is little eight yard chunks tenure like you said boring. Very boring stuff from Carson Wentz. And so I guess my I wanted to ask you why you think that is do you feel like he's still worried about his knee that he's worried about putting himself at risk because he had been saying all off season long that he wasn't going to worry about that. Once he got back out there. I don't think it's him worrying about it so much as it just might be the natural affect of. He's still not one hundred percent really, you know, it's still hasn't been a full year or approaching it. But it's still hasn't officially been a full year since he first suffered those ACO and elsia injuries. And if you go by what you know pro football. Dr for the guy's name pro, you know, pro football, doc. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rights for the San Diego union Tribune of any for a long time. He was saying that like whence might be able to play. But he's not gonna be a hundred percent who he was last year until possibly later in the season. And maybe it might not happen at all this season. So of revisiting now that that now that we're seeing Carson Wentz where he is. Maybe don't see so much those physical limitations. I don't think we've seen them drastically on display. But maybe it's more of a sub thing that is taking place here. So that I kind of think about that also had to think about how us on the injured report earlier the season not lately, but earlier this season with a back issue which kind of caused him to be limited on practice a couple times on Wednesdays earlier in the week. So Hannah makes me raise an eyebrow wonder what that was all about. So yeah, there's some kind of thing where he's just not one hundred percent right now in any case, you know, injuries happen than the. Yet the place the league, it's it's the National Football League. If you will. So I don't know. It's it's unfortunate to see Carson Wentz. You know, have these games where he's struggling like that in his third year because you would like to think that he's going to continue to make incremental progress like into nudie, a better better any step athlete that you start to kinda worry a little bit. But I don't think anything has changed in the long term outlook. Carson wentz. I still think there's every reason to be excited about him. Even if you kinda wanna say, the stats are a little bit empty, and I think there's some fairness in that. I'm not gonna say they're completely empty. But like, obviously he's posting good stats in the team isn't winning. So there's some kind of issue here points. Yeah. But I mean, even still with that said, I mean still playing better than a lot of other quarterbacks in the league. Like, there's a lot of bad quarterbacks out there too to he's better than them still at at worst. I think he is an average hornbeck at the very worst. I think more realistically he's above average. So that's a good spot to be. And I think again, you just hit the nail on the head. I think you get him. A better running game you get hopefully some better coaching in here this off season. And then I think you have a lot of reason to be optimistic heading into next season. And of course, hopefully him being further removed from the injury. So I have every reason to be optimistic in the future. But right now, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how I feel like he's just going to suddenly down back in be great. If he he did I think that this week is huge for that. And showing that okay, I had this terrible game against the saints. By can come out that here now in big spot in the divisional game at home and have a really good game. It'd be great to see that especially after last week's result in that just for him. But the team has a whole you saw Malcolm Jenkins comes this week about demeanor and not everyone agreed that in the locker room. But I think ultimately, Malcolm what he was trying to do. There is light a fire under the team in hopefully that works and hopefully Carson can. Kind of take the reins here in play better in kind of lead this team. That's what you wanna see. You wanna see this team at least show like a good fight in put forward an effort that you feel good about because after last week's result. Like, that's that's not where you are at all. So they need to bounce back and in two thousand sixteen when they lost to the Bengals real badly. Like that they did nounce back. They lost at home to Washington in that game right after that game. But the the were in it to the end like the fight lift a lot better. They looked very competitive. So that's what you're hoping to see on Sunday against the giants. And that's going to be on Doug. If that happens, you'll be able to see I think that's on the coaching staff to get this team ready to play, and you know that locker room. Sure, it's heard a lot about chemistry this week by the eagles at the chemistry, isn't there? You know, listen if this team is six four instead of four and six you're not hearing stuff about chemistry. That's that's just chemistry is a product of winning the reason that team looked like they had such great chemistry last year as they did have a bunch of good guys who cared about each other. And where supporting each other. But I think they also. When they got on that run. They were up to something special in every game seemed like a party with all the celebrations and the dancing and the the gimmicks after touchdowns we I think we've seen one touchdown celebration this year from this team that we've seen one was the ones in the Cowboys game which were like misplaced like no don't do that. Right. Exact. But that's that's because it has felt misplaced. They haven't gotten off too early leads. And you know, talking about Wentz with shootouts you think back to last year. I think the one game where he did perform great in a shootout was the Rams game in Los Angeles. Where where he got hurt? I mean, he led the four touchdowns in that game on his fourth touchdown as the one. He got his knee blown out of the play after he got his knee blown out and then and then didn't play again until this season. And I think that was part of the maturation process. You were seeing from him last year that he was able to do that against a really good football team. He was matching them touchdown touchdown in point for point. He hasn't been able to do that since then because for whatever reason he hasn't had the same kind of running game that he did last year and your. Right. He'd probably is still hurt still recovering from his knee injury a little bit. I'll feel I think we'll get a lot better indication about Carson Wentz next year after he's had a full off season where he's not rehabbing. And I think we don't take that into consideration. He is healthy enough to play right now. Yes. But when there's a big difference between spending the off season rehabbing and preparing for the season. Like ordinarily, would I will say that. It does feel as though we came into the season viewing Carson Wentz as in elite quarterback. And I don't think that we can say that right now about him. There are some there are some holes in his game. And he's also hamstrung by some of the issues going on with the team as well. That's the thing that's tough about this team right now be LG is it's really hard to pin down any one thing. That's a problem. It's is everything. Yes. That is a big issue and talking about some of the other top quarterbacks though, I mean, you can say you you'll take Goff and Mahomes over him. And that's fine fare. About cough. I would say the homes. Yes. But like also another coaching and look at their and even beyond that that the weapons I mean, come on Kareem hunt and Todd Gurley. I mean, the Rams a big reason why they have success like or at least a lot of the plays. They have success on is play action. Like you were saying earlier the eagles. Are you kidding me? Lord. Are they gonna like no one is gonna respect play action from the heels? You're going to be worried about on Cape come on like they've no threat of that at all. And even besides that. I mean, you you've Tyree till who's like the fastest player in the NFL have a great to have or Brandon cooks on the ramp. Like these guys have explosive playmakers, and that's been something we've been talking about all year. Just don't have any kind of. There's no one who can make a play on either side of the ball. Really right issue. Like, there's no one who was just going to get a turnover for you on defense. There's no one who is going to disperse out a huge touchdown play on offense. That's that's a huge issue team in the offseason. Plenty time to talk about of course. But right now just looking at early on like that's something they need to get better team speeds slash explosiveness because they just don't have that element. And that's that's part of what makes them boy they had that last year with Torrey Smith, and they tried to replace Smith with Mike Wallace in that. Obviously hasn't worked out missing net. Speed guy on the outside. They get golden Tate thinking, he's. Going to provide the explosive plays on the yards after the catch. But again, they just have not been able to figure out a way to get. What is now appearing to be redundant piece into an offense that really already has the middle of the field. Well, taken care of. It's the outside of the field that they need some help or in the backfield or on the defensive side, or whatever, you know. We'll be talking about the Tate trade for the rest of the season end. It'll be interesting to see what I mean. Do you think he's back next year? Beal, gee, I mean, obviously Aguilar signed to the to the fifth year deal, but they could on guaranteed. Yeah. Get rid of Aguilar, if they wanted to and and go with Tate. I mean, it's I think I think the Tate is a guy even if the eagles are out of it. It'll be important to see whether or not they're able to figure out a way to use him here in these last few games because I think that could determine whether or not they decide to keep him or making attempt to keep him next year on the flip side of wants to stay. Do I feel like, you know, on do I feel this coaching staff? Even those using factor wanting to resign at the team. So I I don't think it's impossible. I wouldn't say it's impossible, especially because I don't know of Nelson idlers be back. We need to have more of a talk about him. Really? Because we do right now is the is actually good. Like, are we sure he's really good? Because when you look at, you know, his body of work now, it's to really really really awful seasons where he was literally the worst receiver in the league. In terms of like objectively by football, outsiders metrics, by pro football focuses metrics, both alike, and he had a really good year last year, very encouraging. I thought it was into another step forward this year because he looked awesome in training camp. They that was in part because the Cornerbacks aren't very good. But even still I just thought he looked better than like all the other receivers clearly speed especially down the field. So maybe it's the eagles are struggling to use Nelson. Lower as well as golden Tate in terms of usage. Maybe that's it. But I don't know. I just I kinda wonder too. If it's just like if he was kind of a one year wonder to some extent, especially with this contract coming up like what are you betting on? There. Are you betting on that one good year? Are you betting on the two years is really bad? And then this other one where you kind of can't really figure out what it was certainly wasn't good. So that's kind of a big thing. They're gonna have to figure out but going for the rest of the season. They would sure be nice to see now snag or show up as you were just talking about Torrey Smith there, John. I mean, I think you look to the guys who aren't aren't here anymore for the change. But it's part of it is the guys who were here that you're not getting two thousand seventeen now Styler this year and to have that guy when make a big difference on this team right now, but you don't have them. So I don't know what the issue is there. That's a lot of the problems with this team. We keep coming back to it. Right. Like, you said just so many issues, it's not one. Thing there's dislike mysteries with this team might Corey Clement dislike how is he being so bad this year like for it's not even like we necessarily expected him to be a superstar coming into this season. But you thought he had at least a solid role player. And he can't even be that his he can't give you anything. Nothing like that kickoff return, but on offense, he's giving you nothing like what is that? And then they'll Nedal or goes from having this two thousand seventeen productive season turned around and all of a sudden this year like he's not reliable. And it's just that's so weird about this year. There's these mysteries with this team. And kind of the frustrating thing to follow along with and even cover this team. It's like sometimes I don't even know what to write about that. It's just like what's going on what there's nothing like even can't even just figure it out at just seems like there's a billion issues and everything's going in different directions. And this is kind of a mess. Really? You know, we we talked at the beginning of the season about. The Super Bowl hangover and dismissing the Super Bowl hangover. But that's what this feels like it this team never never moved on from two thousand seventeen and a lot of it was because of injury. They didn't have Carson and al-shabaab to start the season. So you're just kind of you didn't really even feel the season got started until Carson came back, and then he didn't have alshon until the week after he came back. But at that point now, you're starting to lose your running backs in you're starting to get other guys dinged up. And now you're starting to lose guys on the defense, and it just the the season never really felt like to me that it ever even as a fan. It didn't really feel like the season ever got started. You know, everybody e fans alike where we're still kinda high on the Super Bowl, and it just didn't feel like especially offensively. They have enough pieces on offense right now that they should be scoring points. Jay, they should be scoring in eerie. Right. They should be scoring and they're and they're just not. And you know, you can say they're missing guys like blunt who. Had a good day on thanksgiving. Eight yards in two touchdowns on nineteen carries for the lions. He's been kind of not to here today. But yeah, I'm not gonna just point to one game and say there's a carry one. But you know, at the end of the day there is something missing from this group, and it's going to be on Doug Peterson. And I got to imagine a new offense coordinator at the end of the season to kind of figure out what the heck is going on. And hopefully, the look outside is you and Mike kiss talked about in a couple of days ago on on BGN episode twenty two looking outside the organization maybe for their next offensive coordinator higher. What we'll get into our picks for the eagles and giants coming up here in just a second. But as we do every week B Eljay, let's run down a couple of games from around the NFL will give a picks on three different games. Obviously. We don't have any any entity NFC east games to go over because thousand Washington played on thanksgiving and eagles and giants or the other two NFC east team. So I picked three random here. Let's go through Seattle at Carolina. The Panthers are three point favorites in this one. What do you what do you think about the Seahawks going down to Carolina to take on Cam Newton in the Panthers? I like to see us. I think they they're solid. They're I think they're they're pretty good in. I had it here. I lost it. So. So this is me stalling. I got what? I'll jump in here. I'll let you finish up. I I'll ring the bell on you all take. I'll take Carolina explanation ring. Here's a real quick. In eleven point differential. So I think there's all team I think they're good. And I don't know. I just always feel like the Panthers are kind of frauds? And that seemed like they were gonna prove me wrong with that with this. You know, this good start to this year. But then they've kind of slipped back. They lost to the lion. So the plane home kinda makes me worry. And if I was deciding the in this game, I just wouldn't because I'd stay away. But since we are making the pig. I will take the Seahawks now, I'll ring the bell. And I just I think obviously as Cam Newton goes so go the Panthers and Seattle to me is not the same team on the road as they aren't home in fear. I I don't have obviously a real strong feeling about this game way or the other. But I'll take Carolina at home as the three point favorite Green Bay at Minnesota here. This is an interesting game to you've got you've got the Vikings. Who again, I as you know, Kurt cousins guy. But he the this is what this is what you see with lead. Team. He doesn't beat good teams. And it's an uneven performance leading to an uneven team. And I think that's what we've seen from Minnesota this year, they're uneven ballclub, they should be better than they are right now to be honest. And you know, I still think Green Bay is uneven as well though. I am Rogers has kind of been all over the place two and four points for Minnesota here. I keep every week. I keep taking Green Bay in these in these situations because I keep thinking Aaron Rodgers is gonna perform well, whether it's on the road or at home. I'm just gonna go with Minnesota here. I'm done. I'm tired of taking Green Bay too. You know to come through in these kinds of situations. I think Minnesota's tough place to play Green Bay is not a juggernaut out. I'll take the Vikings here. Be I'm honoring the Bill, although I will say to your point about Aaron Rodgers in the last thirty five starts for an Rogers. The Packers are eighteen sixteen in one. So there one game of five hundred there. Mike mccarthy. Yeah. That's allows. That's terrible. So anyway on a bit on the better quarterback, of course here. Yeah. And that's what will be when these two teams played earlier this year, which doesn't mean everything early in the season. But still the Packers clearly should have won that game the got host. So I think they're kinda gonna want the revenge here. I think you know, it's getting into the stretch run. If we're going to see some kind of vintage Rodgers' performance, you would think it's now like when the seem really has to step up especially with the bears starting to run away with the north. They're like the pressures on the Packers to step up here. And I think they will. I'm not really a big believer in Kirk cousins. Obviously and team as a whole and either the fans over daily Norseman this early some kind of calls for Mike Zimmer to be on the hot seat. So yeah, that's going on over there. All right. Well, neither neither fan base is thrilled with their head coach. I guess and then finally, you know, again, this is the Monday night game. This is not a stellar game Monday. Listen, the SPN folks had a a real nice night with Kansas City in L A. So they're get now they get Tennessee Houston, which does not exactly scream starpower here. But Tennessee has been able to take it to NFC east teams this year and not to a whole lot of other folks in Houston on a roll. I mean, we keep saying Houston's not a very good football team. And they winning six and a half is a big lined. Beal Jay, what do you think barely barely winning? They they beat Washington by two points. Washington obviously have lost Smith had a backup come into the game. And they want again on a last second field goal. That was a myth like this team wins by the skin of their teeth every week into their credit. They're winning. They're at least kind of like an average team. They're not a flat out terrible team. Like they were looking like earlier in the year when it started out Owen three, but they're not actually good. And the problem though, either. Is like probably neither of the titans and bright. Honestly, I don't know what you even label Tennessee as they're probably one of the hardest teams to figure out in the league this year. Like, they have some really quality wins that win in Dallas knows looking good. The eagles obviously coming from behind and going into overtime there. You know, they they blew out the patriots the week before. Right. The latest stinker. So I don't know. I don't know what to make that team right now. But. I just don't think like the Texans are six and a half home favorites. Kind of good still like I think it's division game. I think it could be close they could easily win because the titans team again. I don't really know what to make them. And this is probably another line at try to stay away from. But since then we are picking it. I'll just take the points in hope it's going to be a close game. Yeah. I'll take the points to be LGI thinks think picking the Texans to win any game by six and a half or more points, you know, by seven or more is is is a fool's errand. So I get again this again, I would stay away from his well, but I I would probably take the points to all right? Looking at eagles versus giants. B L. GD eagles are favored by six points at home against ally. Manning and the giants, and we've laid out all the reasons why we don't feel good about about this game of the giants. Are not good right now. The eagles are not good. What say you is insane that they are favored by six. Are you kidding? Me how why why they shouldn't be favored by six points against any team in the league right now any like maybe the raiders maybe the cardinals maybe the forty Niners. Probably not. Honestly like why? How again this is a team that is just not getting off the fast starts on offense. So they're they're starting off slower than anyone in the league. I was the first quarter scoring so like they're always playing from behind. How could you how why was the steam I was a seem favorite and by in some places as much as seven I'm seeing here. So that's that's crazy to me. Even if you think the eagles are going to win this game, which is fair is fair thing to think that but like you're you're so confident that you think they can win by six points. I don't see that. So I am definitely taking the giant. And again, I have seen it seven of you can get giants plus seven here. I mean, come on this no brainer to me. When possession game like that. But yeah, I mean the eagles ranked twenty third Devia way in twenty point differential. The the giants aren't that far off the giant actually better in a twenty first and they are lower in point differential at twenty six. So I don't think the giants are really good. But again, it doesn't really that doesn't really go into the equation for me. It's not about the deals are bad right now. And until they prove me wrong. I just don't see how they deserve my faith. So I am taking the giants to win this game outright. But I will say the score is twenty four to twenty Hobo. I am not gonna take the eagles to cover a six point spread by any stretch of the imagination either. But I I feel like the eagles have another good performance in them here somewhere coming back home. I feel like this team has a lot of veterans. I feel like this team is understanding. Their season is on the line here. And I guess I still feel like there's some residual. There's some there's some residual two thousand seventeen ARA in this squad somewhere. I think Carson Wentz isn't going to have to really bad games in a row. I think Carson's gonna come out and play better. I think you're gonna see the eagles really rely on the run more in this game. I think you're gonna see Josh Adams get a real run here Ovation's game. I do I think you're gonna see fifteen to twenty carries for Josh Adams in this game. I think you're gonna see the eagles try and control the ball because they know that their secondary is incredibly weak, and they just want to keep the ball out of Eli Manning's hands more accurately out of Odell Beckham junior's hands. And so I think this is gonna be a ball control game or the eagles. Try to run the ball a lot. I think they'll have some success running the football against the giants. I think Carson Wentz make enough plays. I think this comes down to a field goal late. I like the eagles to win twenty three to twenty g. Okay. Any final thoughts for this week, my friend as always I tunes ratings reviewing the strivings all of those things. Very good stuff. Make sure you continue to do that. We are at five hundred fifty two ratings that awesome. We are two hundred and fourteen reviews. So difference of about two hundred forty ratings compared to reviews there. So come on. Let's get some more of us in here. It doesn't have to be a paragraph. 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BGN Radio #21: Eagles-Saints Preview Extravaganza

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BGN Radio #21: Eagles-Saints Preview Extravaganza

"They. Hi, this is Jim chica- our podcast step over will be ballers podcasts that work for all of your Sixers needs. Says game breakdowns with a course in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts heathen, I tune Stitcher sparked by or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Ladies and gentlemen, attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. Hello, bleeding, green nation and welcome back to radio. This is episode number twenty one. I'm John Stolnis from leading nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. We've got your eagles. Saints preview episode. Of course, we coming up at tough week against the Dallas Cowboys and this game is not looking a whole lot more promising. But we're going to break it all down for you here over the next little while. And joining me to do that is of course, the man the myth the legend the brains behind the operation at bleeding, green, Asian Mr. Brandon league out, and you can follow branded on Twitter at Brandon gown Beal jiman- guy that was awful last week wasn't. It was terrible. John. I'm not over it. Now me that was the season that was the season right there. I know they're still mathematically alive. I know the division isn't great. I know they still can make the playoffs. I get that. But it just it just doesn't feel like they can at this point anymore. Does no fooling yourself. There's no league. They haven't it's week or. It's a week eleven now. And they haven't been able to win back to back games. And they just failed to win the biggest game of their season at home coming off a bye Cowboys coming off short weekly. They had every reason to win that game. They should have been able to win that game. They had the better quarterback. They had the better coach. I mean, not on Sunday. But I mean in the in the bigger picture like there was no good reason for them to lose that game. There's no like while the Cowboys you paid too. I don't wanna hear that the better team. That's stupid. So it's very frustrating. It kind of makes everything else feel pointless. Now. Of course, we have again about what is just like, I'm not even trying to you know, be super down. Like, I'm not I'm not to the point where like angry screaming just disappointed. That's what this season has been for me. And I've been I've been trying to keep things in perspective of insane. That feel like a lot said it many times on this podcast where like the season is not some grain failure in the sense of they're blowing like this. You know best team in the league. And there is blowing these gains is total underperformance. No. It's not the case there. They are what they are there. They are with their records as they are. They are foreign five team. They are mediocre. They're boring, which I hate that's the thing. I hate the most for for us and for you the fans just boring. They're not even fun. It's not an interesting team. And that's that's kind of what's bothering me this week like just as hard as going for writing for John. It's like what do I write about like the team mediocre? It's there. I don't what else. There's nothing. Interesting about this. Yeah. No in watching them play. They don't break big plays. They don't create any big plays. It's one long plotting drive after another. I mean their best offensive player outside of Carson Wentz right now is Aker. It's and Zakar. It's a great tight end. But when Zakar it's is your best player when you're tight end is really the only offense of player doing damage. You're not going to score a lot of points that way and we've seen the eagle's playoff odds. Take a big hit with that loss last week now at. Sixteen point one percent. According to football, outsiders, Dallas is just ahead of them at seventeen percent only six teams in the NFC have were Assads at making the playoffs now for the then the eagles do and I think you hit the nail on the head. And I hadn't really thought about it that way L G. But that's what the season is disappointing because we know that we've seen teams that win their first Super Bowl have trouble. The next year the patriots after their for Super Bowl had a much better record than the eagles will likely finish up. They went ten and six, but they missed the playoffs after that. After that person the Steelers in recent seasons missed the playoffs after winning the Super Bowl. It's it happens quite a bit to Super Bowl winning teams. There's a price to pay for playing so deep into the season. And you don't really know what changes you make during the offseason after a Super Bowl how that's going to affect the following season. I think we saw on the changes the team made over the offseason thought why you bring in Mike Wallace and place of Torrey Smith that's gonna probably be at the very least a lateral move. If not an upgrade you had to let trae Burton go. You couldn't bring Traber back in. I think one of the things that I wanted to touch on before we start talking about the saints game is some of the stuff that Jason Kelsey said this week because he talked about some of the turnover some of the players that they lost that aren't star players bit guys who filled roles who knew what their jobs were and really helped to make this team go that aren't here anymore, and you've got the players here right now who were on this team last year last year that are either bang-up not a year older. So they're just another year slower or simply for reasons that we can't put our fingers on g not performing the way they did last year. And that's that's what makes this so frustrating is that it is disappointing because I thought we were going to get a better team this year the personnel at the beginning of the season. Look like it was going to be better. And for whatever reason new players have been injured or having played. Well, and the guys who are coming back. Just haven't played the way they did last. Year. So it's interesting Dusen Kelsey had to say about, you know, lacking veterans like Brenton Lincoln leaguer. Now, I almost don't get his point in a way because like having those guys isn't gonna fix this team. Like, we can admit that. Right. Like, right. It's not like, oh, these are just missing Felli in Lear like, yeah. Like, it's not even the league right now. He's retired. You couldn't get a job. Pretty well. I mean, you know, I'm sure it offers out there. But they weren't obviously good enough for him to take it. And then Europe one is struggling the season and Detroit. And and honestly, I saw some lions fans that I know who want him cut these not playing Brundige, right? So, but I think maybe something to take away from Jason Chelsea's quote there that it's just a different team. Like, that's something. I think we might have as a as a fan base have struggled to grasp this year. Like, this isn't this isn't the team that won the Super Bowl. I this isn't the team that won the Super Bowl heading into two thousand eighteen is not that simple. It's not like the same team. It's. It's a very much a different team nor seeing that this year, and that's kind of freshman fratures. The frustrates me. Frustrates me so much. I can't even speak straight. When. On this team loses games. And I see on Twitter and the comments on media and just everywhere. It's like no last year was such a fluke and like the Super Bowl doesn't even matter. Now, what are you? What are you saying what I don't understand? What's didn't even mean different year? It's not like you win the Super Bowl and the next year. If you don't win the Super Bowl doesn't count. It does not how it works exact season is its own season. And the NFL is a league that is designed for competitive balance more so than any other league, I feel like that the parody in the NFL is crazy. Usually once a year, there's a graphic that the NFL puts out where it's a circle of teams in each of those teams has beaten the team in front of them lost to the team behind them. That's how then if it works. That's it's just kind of Li it's set up in a way where there is a salary cap. And there is a schedule that's Zayn to for the top teams to play the hardest teams the next. Year. And that allows the teams from the bottom to move the top which the did by the way last year. And also on the other side of the coin allows the teams from the bottom to fall sorry from the top to fall to the bottom. So it's kind of what it is. It's it's how the league is designed. It's not designed where genes that are on the top to stay there. All the time the teams that do that like the patriots are the exception very much. Not the rule. Yeah. It's very hard to do. So I don't wanna make it sound like making excuses because I'm not like you can be disappointed and frustrated as you want this team. And I don't blame you at all. I am too. But it's just like just to have that perspective. I just think that's important in just to like last year happened exists, and it is real. It doesn't no matter. What happens this year? It doesn't kill any less to me. And. I hate it too. Because so many fans before last year would have said, I will treat, and they have I heard it said I've seen it said I will trade fifty seasons of going oh and sixteen for one Super Bowl. And you say that then then they win the Super Bowl and all of a sudden they're foreign five. It's not even like, they're winless. They're four and five one year under five hundred and that's just like the worst thing in the world. Now, this was to be expected. I remember, you know, thinking about last year when he won the Super Bowl. And I think I would get asked questions like how long is it gonna take, you know, or we talk about it when the honeymoon going to be over and to me, it was like, well, if they lose to the falcons, I'm sure they're going to be caused on WBZ the very next day of how. Yeah. Moving that. So it is what it is. It's the fan base. I get it. I don't know if that entered your question there, I've been thinking about this this week. I've been in this state of mind where I'm just kind of like trying to evaluate evaluate, you know, we're the eagles team where the where the phantom is. Fan base. So it's just it's been on my mind. I think the problem is that if there was one or two things that you could really put your finger on and say, this is why we're failing than fans would be able to at least come up with some solutions. But the problem is that some of the players who played really well last year who were integral to the team doing well are playing lousy this year and heart of the problem. Also is that you've just had a lot of bad luck with injuries last year, the injuries you had some big players go out, but you had one guy at one position here. One guide another position here. You didn't have four guys at one position all going down at the same time. And I think we have also seen to me. I know that there are there are some folks who kind of brush off the absence of the coaches who left Frank Reich and deep Lippo not being around anymore. I'm not in the coaches room. So I can't say for sure what their absence really means to. Team. But I'm here to tell you from what I see I don't see the imagination that I saw last year with with this office specially with the offense. I'm gonna just talk about the offense for a moment here. I don't see them using the personnel in quite the right way. I don't think they knew what to do with golden Tate last week B L. That's I mean, they had they got. And that was my worry. I think I mentioned this to you a little bit in in a BG radio. I didn't really hit this point hard. But it kind of felt like golden Tate was kind of a repetitive ad because you already had a guy Zakar to cover the middle of the field. And I what you want is for Nelson or to be that guy, which is what he was last year. When you bring golden Tate in the skill set that he brought in was definitely different than what they had. They didn't have that yards after the catch guy, but they had him for two full weeks. And they really didn't have any way of getting him in the ball game other than bubble screens and the occasional and occasional slant player. Whatever I mean, they just there was no imagination to you. Using golden Tate last last week and some of the play calling. I know I know Ben solich mentioned this on one of the kissed and Solex shows was how they've taken the ball out of Carson Wentz. His hands in certain key situations where you would want him to be able to scan the field. I let those great point. That's kinda stuck with me over the last couple of days. And I thought I thought Doug got obviously he got out coach last week by by the Cowboys coaching step. They seem to know what was coming Vander ash. After the game said he knew that screen was coming on third into because the eagles had run that exact play in that exact same scenario and scored a touchdown with it. So that's a tendency that it seems as though Peterson has allowed himself to fall into his tendencies in maybe has become a little bit obvious in what he's doing. And I wonder we talk about the players who left in the difference in how the players are performing. I think the absence of some of those coaches just the chemistry in the coaches room is a little bit different than I don't think that's helped this season either. That's not something that could be helped. That was just an that was something that was going to happen. There's no way around. That they had to figure out a way. And maybe this year is just a transition year. And that's kind of how I'm looking at this g two thousand eighteen is just gonna be hopefully the transition year you win the Super Bowl you have this transition year where everybody figures out what it means to be a Super Bowl contender year in year out. And then starting next year after you have a full draft. Everybody gets healthy big the the coaches that are there have another full off season together. I feel much better about this team going into next year. I still feel good about it going forward. I just think this is kind of one of those transition years that was just coming like a freight train. And there's nothing they could've done about it. I think it's very fair. I think I've good a good point, John. I think wasn't that kind of two thousand five in some ways it was the Super Bowl. And it was like this team is just a mess. Just a mess right now in the kind of need to get things figured out and get back on track the mess. What it took to your point about the coaching staff. I think that's yeah. I think it's very fair at this point to question. The losses of those guys. But it's just it's hard to quantify that always talked about. Because like, you don't know. Exactly. I mean, we we have an idea of what they were doing in terms of you know, Frank Reich would help Doug Peterson with the game script and the game script has been terrible. The barely scoring in the first quarter. So that's something we can point to. But it's not just about losing those guys. Like you said that's an edible. What were the supposed to do? I mean, Josh Daniels was a jerk. And obviously the the auditor been great over. I think losing both of those guys not just losing both of those guys because I was going to happen at some point Balu losing them both in the same off season. Of course, really hurts would have been great to only have lost while ingrates have lost. None. But you're going to lose at least listen both maybe hopefully, not the same time. But whatever it happened. But I think, you know, go back to what the can control, and that is the replacements, and I think, you know, it's tough for me to look at. Mike, grow and press Taylor and say, okay. These were definitely one hundred percent the best guys for the job like the whole league. You know, what I mean because you're not you're not limited to internal promotion. Like you have to do that. You can do it and make an outside hire in bring someone in. And there are some guys who were out there. You have Daryl Bevill who obviously got fired from the Seahawks has issues, but like, but he's not calling your place at this point. I'm not bringing in Darrell Bevo to be the play car. I wouldn't great about that. But I'm bringing him into voice Doug Peterson. And those two guys connection they were with the Packers and the new Jim Caldwell who again, do I feel awesome about him being the play collar? No. But he was quarterback coach during Joe flacco hottest run that he ever had any is that ravens connection there with Joe Douglas. Yeah. So maybe you bring him in. It just seemed like, you know, maybe that's what Doug is missing. That's what Frank Reich was he was a veteran play caller, experienced guy. Mike grow is coming. You know, he's not he's young. Guy. He's coming up the ranks. And so is impressed Taylor two very young enough. Not to say, they can't do the job. They're young. But my point is, you know, maybe they could use someone more experienced in here helping out Doug because think about it. I mean Doug is still only in his third season as a head coach right right to you know, to have that might be nice just to have forget even experienced how about just a avoid in. Ben select touched on this a voice outside of the organization. Yes. That's one thing. I hate about teams who just it's it's what I hate about the flyers. Honestly, the most where they just they always answer is within the organization. No, it's not in. Why would you think that you haven't won the championship since nineteen seventy six seventy seven seventy six. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How are you? So convinced that you have all the answers. But that's what teams do in like, they always think they know. What's best? So that kind of arc me at the time. And maybe I didn't express that frustration nothing. I feel like I should have. It's just I hate the idea that just because they're in house that they're automats the best guys. I think you know, there's there's advantages to promoting in house. I think it boosts loyalty or whatever approach to it too. Is not only that. But I just I think that was an issue. And I think maybe the offseason that's something. They looked to address. I don't know if that means firing might grow maybe does. But I just think, you know, to bring in some more veteran, or at least more different voices into that room could help them because it just like you said it just doesn't seem like the offense has this year. And now getting into this right in deflate building too. I just hate this idea that like dog is a total fraud. Like, yeah. And that's not what I'm either night at you know, obviously, you're not saying that right? Yeah. It's just like, and even if he was what were that you'll supposed to do? I hate the. I I've seen people say like us kept the wrong coach. Okay. So what are they gonna do fire? Doug Peterson is the moment cone. Yeah. Yeah. Frank, right. Come on like shut up. This is not realistic at all. And and I think it's also like it doesn't give Doug enough credit. Like again won the Super Bowl. Doug was calling the plays. I don't care how much Frank Reich and John flu. John de Filippo were helping to some point Doug Peterson was making those calls, and he gets the credit for that. And I still believe in Doug Peterson on the whole. I don't think this has been as best year. But I've also seen people questioned him still coming back from two thousand sixteen and I think that year is suddenly getting colored worse. Because of the eagles are how they're doing this year. If you look back to that year, they were pretty good point differential in DVR everything obviously the record is only seven and nine, but I was so sure that team was gonna improve last year. Not to the extent. They did. I wasn't saying I knew assuming, but I I knew they're going to get better because the signs pointed that way now so so don't discredit that year as well. It's just like the. The larger theme here of everything I'm saying there's such a revisionist history going on with everything which is what happens when the team struggles. It's only natural. But it's just it's not a fun place to be right now, and to your larger point guess about this whole thing with the coaching staff in in this. They're in a transition. I think that's what it is. Like, a clearly they're just probably not good enough. Now, they realized that and they're gonna have to fix themselves, and guess what they have a lot of draft resources of one less or one fewer, of course, trade out her go they still Valetta draft picks. They have some they have enough cap space to figure out what to do in terms of keeping their own players and they franchise quarterback. And I still think the head coach who can be really good. So yes in the long term. I think that needs to be said like they're still foundation here, and that doesn't guarantee anything, but they're not like eternally doomed right now, I agree with that. And obviously this season is most likely doomed than looking ahead over the last seven games of the season. The the eagles have the hardest sched-. Left this season. Washington has the second easiest schedule remaining. So again, it is a tall mountain for this team to climb if they do wanna get into it. And I did mention in a piece I wrote this week about the two thousand six eagles how they started off five and six and then ran the table to win the division attendance. And that might you probably saw be the bleeding green tweet that promoted the story guy that ratio pretty hard people did not want to hear that earlier this week. But and here, I know I understand teams like the Rams and the saints weren't on that two thousand six eagles schedule, and they didn't have the kind of injury situation. I know it wasn't a perfect comparison. But you know, five and six running the table certainly a little bit more daunting than four and five, but I get in the schedule the eagles are faced with and just the litany of injuries at certain positions or too much to bear. And we're talking about injuries. Let's look ahead to this week's game. Now a little bit. And let's go over the injury report because we see that. At least the eagles will be. Ding. Sidney Jones back this week the LG he was a full participant practice on Thursday. Looks like we're gonna get a good look at him on the outside and not a moment too soon because with Ronald Darby out for the season. And it appears as though Jalen mills is still not going to be going to be ready to go on Sunday. He did not practice on Thursday. The secondary is still banged up. We're looking at another corner do o of wrestle Douglas. And and Sidney Jones on the outside. It looks like the g and boy I mean the eagles were clearly just so wrong to keep Jalen mills in the starting lineup. This result Douglas out into the field in the A F the stuff with when it comes to like second second guessing where not saying like the coaching staff is always right? But there's no oftentimes are reasons why why the in certain things, and it's sometimes there. I don't think they're always. Right. But sometimes they are and that as a case where man, I just I just I've never been a big result. Douglas believer in terms of him as a longtime starter. I think he'd be a backup short. But I mean, there's a lot of players would be backup. So not feeling great with him and the secondary once again, but it will be interesting to see I guess we're gonna get Sidney Jones on the outside. I would assume that is where he would line up because I don't know who else you're putting out there with Darby obviously done for the season and mills out like likely out as you said, I guess, you know, of auntie Matic's man's the that point with Corey Graham back at safety who isn't really doing much other than being dad as well. So not grace going up against a saints offense that is scoring at will in distributes butting up insane numbers. Despite the fact, he's going to turn forty years old in just a couple months here in January. So it's pretty crazy. How good this saints team is and how and that's that's a big reason why you know, I I don't think the eagles could win this week. I don't how do you look at that secondary and secondary that was getting beaten by deck Prescott who is very much. Much. Not as good as drew Brees. Yeah. And the aim being in New Orleans, the crowd noise and everything to which so just that doesn't hurt the defense on the west of the bed point. Scrub that from the records. Point being though, just that you know, I just secondaries in looking good the defense. I want to talk about the defense little bit. Especially coming off the Cowboys game yet has been some talk that the defense is the issue this year, and I would agree in the sense of. It's not the issue. But it is a issue. It's is very much contributing to their struggles. Yeah. Would you say it's equal to the to the offense. I mean, I think it's split. I think because a lot of it's timing. You know, everything in life is timing Beal G, and you know, that's what we saw in the Cowboys game last week is that the the time when the defense would falter was was as crippling as anything during credibly on clutch. Like, yeah. Offense, finally, get some scoring drives together finally takes forever. And all of a sudden like they can't stop anyone. And they just allow all the momentum to swing back into the other team's like believer in momentum or not it's just, you know, the can't come big when counts in key situations to as we obviously know as we've seen with the titans game in the panther's game and everything and you could say sure the offense could do a better job of scoring points where it doesn't, you know, the defenses have to be in a spot where they are in such critical situations, and there's some truth to that. But you know, the defense isn't creating turnovers they ranked twenty eighth intern. Covers the seven this year nine games. I guess it's hard to be like, you know, obviously, they're trying to get turnovers. It's not like an effort thing in turnovers or fluky, or you know, there's some luck involved to some extent. But I don't know. That's it's still ultimately it comes down to them that they're not making these plays. And it's it's it's hard because then you're not setting up the offense was short fields to work with or you're not. You're not bailing them out. You're just you know, you're putting them in a spot where the early struggling. And now, they're just have to struggle. Even more to move the ball, which will get to later to talk about the offense. But just just another takeaway from that game. Like just both sides of the ball. Everything's failing this team right now. Every single I I'm just frustrated with this like who do we blame the most like everyone service blame boring take? But at around there's no one who other than Zakar, it's and like Fletcher Cox like everyone deserves wait. I guess what the end with turnovers. I wonder if the turnovers are. A factor of a measure of the fact that these defensive backs don't wanna get the deep early in the season. We saw eagles get beat on the deep ball on more than a few occasions. And I wonder if that has kinda scared the defense a little bit into playing back too much not being aggressive enough. I mean, we saw Jalen mills team started running that double move on everybody in the eagles secondary and Brennan people deep, and we thought, you know, hey, listen at double move. It's gonna you're gonna get birth deep a couple of times, but you're gonna get some turnovers out of that too. Well, we haven't seen anybody get beat on double moves lately. And I think it's because eagles defensive players are playing too passively, and frankly, the linebackers I mentioned this also BGN radio a couple of weeks ago that the linebackers have been invisible season they've been invisible. Nigel Brad last year has fallen off a cliff. I last year he was making plays. I grant granted us playing in the middle. You know? And now he's back on the outside because you have Jordan Hicks back. But joining. Has been largely anonymous this year too. And I realize the eagles play nickel. Probably most of the time that the linebackers are not a a huge feature of this defense. But they're not doing anything. They're not getting anything going turnover wise, and that that has been a big problem with third-down stoppages, the linebackers aren't helping out in getting key third down stops either. And again, that's a lot of times eagles are nickel in third long situations. The third fifteen last week against Dallas was infuriating because I know that Schwartz likes to play back in have players pursue. But it just whether it's a lack of execution on those plays or he just doesn't have the same talent that he did last year because of injuries or teams know what he's going to do in those situations. The eagles defense has not gotten turnovers the linebackers have been invisible. And it's just way too easy for teams to be able to convert on these situations where the eagles clearly should be in the power position is the linebackers. Anything think about the one play they've made it was when Jordan aches tip that eliminating path. The giants and the ends Eli manning in Kamu had that good interception late. If the only thing that stands out in my mind, and that's weird to kind of Jordan Xs like usually a ball magnet that guy is you look at his stats coming into this year in terms of force fumbles interceptions. Like, he's always making plays on the ball. But I I mean, maybe the injuries have just sapped him. You know from being a player that he he used to be your maybe I don't know he's contract year, and he's playing maybe a little more passively. I dunno. I liked your Knicks as as a player in person somebody interactions with. So it's disappointing for sure to see that. And I wanna flip it back to the offense for a second. Because men. Are they disappointing in a lot of ways? And you know, like, I was just saying a lot of people deserve the blame. In Carson deserves blame that the gaming Talis was not the it's so weird because his stats look good. But just make you're not seeing it. You're not seeing that manifest, obviously as the team is foreign five has just not good enough. And they've lost three home games in a row. Like what the hell? They have the best home field advantage in the NFL since the being in two thousand sixteen and then they lost three home games in a row. And Carson was a horrid back for those. So not not very encouraging not to say that I'm down on him all of a sudden. But it's just like your it's in a weird spot. I know John you'd wanna talk about like having an elite year, and no she's not because. It's not just the bell. Where he is. He's having he's not having a bad year. I wanna make that clear of bad year. But he's not having the league year because any look at what Patrick Mahomes, drew bees are doing. And they're like, it's other worldly, basically and even around the league, even Philip rivers. You have these guys who are ahead of him right now. I still think Carson is top ten quarterback at worst than I think at best is top in that top five level. So it's a very good spot to be instill. But it's just you know, to the point is that everyone deserves blame. And now with that said, I wanna take some blame immediately off Carson as I say that because he had to deal with the highest percentage of drops on third down this year. And that's that is courtesy of the ESPN's NFL matchup show saw that kind of fits the test. That was like a big thing that kind of stuff to me in that cab was games. Like every time. They would need a big third down player or something like out on Jeff is not making catch or even in the end. Zone. There were in Carson through to late autumn. Still the chance at it. And he's still not making the catch like, I'm not gonna totally not his fault. But it's dislike could play catch. And the the looks like Sean slowdown on that route to a little bit or hesitated across the middle in the kind of through Carson off a little bit. So right. The overall thing with this offense that is so frustrating. It's just they make it look so hard every every play every drive. It's like they have to you know, Dink in duck down the field in. It's not in a way. We're like Carson sitting this guy. I mean, the sides Zakar too wide open, then falls down. But it's not like he's hitting a guy in stride. And that guys like, you know, then taking the ball on making a couple people miss or their score in this big long. Touchdown play. They actually I think she'll probably opponent wrinkly fewest in the league or at least towards the bottom in long plays. That have reached the end zone this year. They can't get into the end zone. Big-play drive down. They can hit some big plays to get them to the red zone. But they can never dislike you know, finish that big play. And it's just I don't know what that is fully in scheme or whatever. But it's just so frustrating in Annandale in age where offense is being made. Look so easy by some teams in the NFL the saints like this week. Yeah. It's just like why can't the eagles have that? And we thought last year offense is your last year. But this year it like it's so difficult Carson for him to complete a pass. It's like he has to throw it to receiver being tightly covered and s to be perfect pass or like, you know, slowly ground, and there's like no yak opportunity. It's it's not fun. This go back to what I said at the top of the show here. This is not a fun team to watch. What is joy -able? What does this team hang their hat on? What is good in fun about them? So what one of the things I think really help that offense last year was a running game. And I mentioned it in the preview show before the Cowboys game. Week the way the eagles beat the Cowboys. Last year was running the ball. They didn't beat them. By throwing the ball. You had three running backs go per fifty yards or more. I think he had one hundred eighty yards rushing net that night in in Dallas in last year. We saw that this offense. When when Carson Wentz went down a lot of thought. Well, you know, this is this might be okay. Because this is an eagles team that has showed you that. They can win games running the football than they had three good runners. And we've seen Corey be one of those players who performed great last year who has just not done it this year. Jay Ajayi injury is a was a killer for this team. It took a playmaker out of the backfield. So the the eagles are no threat running play action which draws defenders up and helps you get the which helps you get some get some receivers behind the defensive backs, and there's just there's none of that with the eagles right now. There's just I kind of joke last week the eagles gonna run the ball fifteen times or more. Well, basically rented fifteen times, and you can't do that. In this league. You look at the great teams degrade off. Fences. I know that this is a passing league now. But you look at the saints. They have one great wide receiver. But they have been Kamara and more. Yeah. Thank you. Mark Ingram at at running back who and Mars just an unbelievable player out of the backfield catching the ball. He basically acts as a second wide receiver. But you have with the chiefs have Kamar hunt. You have with the Rams you have girls early. I mean, you have with these great offenses you have to have Connor in the Steelers to. Yeah. I mean, you have these you have these great runners, and they don't have to be first round picks hunters, you don't have to. They don't have to be studs. Right. I mean, you can you can find these guys in different places like the eagles did last year. They had a great committee where everybody knew what they were doing. They also be LG had an offense of line that wasn't completely banged up. Jason Kelsey looks a step slower this year trimming. For you know, for uprise old as he is amazed at the fact that Jason Peters is out there doing what he's doing. But he's banged up guy. He was two years ago in the first half last year before he got hurt in lane. Johnson bless his heart is battling through all these different kinds of things. So you've got an offensive line where you're you're three. Best your three best offensive lineman are nowhere near on hundred percent. And it's I think that is a big thing that's killing this offense. Doug Peterson doesn't have any confidence in the running game. And that is taking away a lot of the effectiveness of play action. And some of the things that they can do passing the ball. It's really frustrating in the backs just aren't good. Two carries against Dallas. I think you know, this they they really looked at their team during the bye week. And I think they were like man, I think we have to get window it out there less because he's not good. Not good tweeted out today that. There are fifty four qualified running backs in terms of fifteen plus yards this year in what else Mawlid has exactly one fifteen plus yards, and it was exactly fifteen yards. So that rings fifty I said of those fifty four running backs the last three have zero. So one of them Lear blunt is his league Arab. His grab one of those players who does not have around fifteen. So there's no explosion. That's a big problem off into the whole was hosted the running game. And the fact that Josh Adams and undrafted rookie free agent who missed all spring practices. He was in and out a little bit during training camp with some injuries. And like that'd pretty good preseason for the most part. But I think relative to expectation to it wasn't like blowing people's minds and I like Josh Adams. And I want to see him get the ball more. But at the same time like. Do I think the star in the making I don't, and I hope I'm wrong about that. But I don't see. I mean, he's numbers have been good obviously officiant player when he said the ball how small sample size. And I also think he's limited like even if he's a good runner. He's really not giving you anything receiver, and he has no history of doing that. So that's a problem too. You know when he's out there. They're not gonna throw him or at least very often. So there are limitations there as well. And I think that is an issue. Just yes, it is a passing league. But to have that pressure taken off sometimes wouldn't that be nice? Maybe have Carson isn't having the perfect game. Hey, let's give it to this running back in having run a little bit and kind of make life easier. Carson, you know, and I remember you in two thousand sixteen b l g beating the drum for arrest back for Carson Wentz all year we were doing. In going into going into the two thousand seventeen draft. There was that golden opportunity to do it. There was so many players, and I was so pissed when they didn't get one of them. They ended up getting Donald pump Frey like the worst flare. Of course, they could have gotten it running back, basically who has not played in NFL snap. He's on the practice squad will see if he ever even plays in the NFL. There's no even guarantee so it's kind of frustrating. That's definitely been in a shoe this year just to not have that. It's not like the maker break thing optimally. But it's that piece that you're missing from the offense, and I hope they dress. And you know, think about just how long the eagles had two running backs, and there was such a luxury. No, so nice to see like when you had shady you can count on to have that guy there and west road. Buckhalter for a number of. And now it's just like it's crap. Like is terrible. Here's a reason. He was the fourth string running back coming into this year is fine for fourth string running Beckley if they kept him in. He wasn't that role fine. But like if he's your number one guy is not good enough. If Corey Clement is your number one guy. I mean at this point where where he is in whatever funk he is in or whatever you wanna call it like it's not good enough at another staff. I think in Corey Clement fifty I out of fifty eight players in yards after contact per attempt this season. So hey, Doug. Maybe don't throw to him behind the sticks on crucial third down because he's not making people miss at all this year. So it's just it's frustrating, and that's twenty two because Clement was a guy who really was kind of a powerful runner after contact last year, he became essentially their goal line guy. L A lot of times late in the season. And in the playoffs down by the goal line. Just the yeah, he's he. He has not been the same either this year. And so, you know, we're looking at now going up against the saints team that scores league thirty six point seven point two game. Man. I mean, and you've got a secondary that's going to try and patch it together with bubblegum rubber bands. And I just man eagles. What's this team has to get off to a faster start this week, the G they have to score some first quarter points that game script has to be better in the execution of the script has to be gathered has to be better. I don't know that actually even the plays are as much. The problem is probably part of the problem. But we've seen players just not execute properly. We we saw on the opening series last week a couple of players do make mistakes. And that's that's been a big issue as well. And that's not something you notice as you're watching the games. That's only something you notice afterwards. Watching the all twenty two you can see guys not finishing a block or blocking someone incorrectly or a receiver not releasing as quickly as he should or not recognizing that the defense is playing man to man. Or zone, or whatever it might be. Then eagles score just Twenty-one first quarter points this year, and that's the fewest in the NFL. So I mean, that's that has that has to change this week. If the eagles are gonna have any chance in this game against the saints. They cannot get down to this team fourteen to nothing twenty one to three they have got to stay with this team early Biaggi. They have to score points on the opening drive this week. How about no game stripped? The game script is clearly not working Jantus go in there. And be like, hey, Carson, just do some stuff like go make something happen. I know that sounds stupid. But like, I mean, I don't know I trust Carson. I'm sorry figure some things out or let him do the games group for for what I care like they have to change something. Because clearly what they're doing is networking, and if you know, maybe that's the indictment on micro right there that I don't we don't know for sure that he is doing exactly what Frank Reich is doing because he really wouldn't divulge that when he was asked about that this week. So I don't know for sure. But I would imagine I think it's fair to guess that he might be doing the same thing in that responsibility of coming up or helping Doug without place grip there. He is. He's clearly not doing a great job. Yeah. Right. So yeah, I would love to see a fast start. I have exactly zero faith zero that could you and that's the how do you trust the team at all? I just can't because they haven't shown it. And I think it's important for you there as did to point out that it's not on the coaching. I think the coaching is deserving probab- the coaching probably getting a lot more criticism than the players, and I get it. I mean, the coaching deserves blame not trying to take blame off of the coaching. But I think the players probably deserve a little bit more maybe blame than they are getting their execute as well. And they're not, and it's not just like they're putting their being put in these possible -sition to execute as Andy Reid always say he needs to put his players in a better physician to succeed him. And I don't think that's the issue. I don't think they're always. Being put in bad positions. But they're also not executing. So the problem in it's just you know across the board. Again, there's it's across the board of this team. Lots of blame to go around. It's frustrating. It's not fun the other foreign five, and they could easily be foreign six on Sunday of every expectation that they arguing to lose this game. And it's so yeah. Yeah. That's right. If you don't wanna watch the games, you can listen to us talk about him all week now. But you've probably gonna watch the game. Just a couple of quick things on the injury report hearing TIMMY Jernigan good play this week against the saints. Of course, not on the injury list because he's still on the NFL, but while touring Mike Wallace out of his walking boot. But he hasn't started running yet. I mean, this is about the time Wallace is able to play the season is gonna be all wrapped up. I mean, I understand why he wants to come back, but your fast receiver is just out of his walking. Hasn't started running yet? I mean, are we, you know, what's what's the point here? Still know Darren sproles at practice and limited in practice on Thursday lane Johnson. And Hello de NADA. I think that was a big thing last week to be LG is all week long lane. Johnson was practicing. It looked like he was going to play. And then suddenly right before the game. He's out and you had to put by tie in at right tackle for him. And then you run Josh Adams behind by fourth and one it's just when. -ation? Yeah. That to me is is is the opin any of this season is okay. What are you gonna do lane Johnson's hurt you have to make the best of a bad situation? So you put your the guy in there that you have to be your versatile backup guy. Who's clearly not as good as the other guys. But you know, you hope that by with a little bit of help can can get the job done. But on a fourth in one your your you've got to recognize the personnel. You have. And that's what I don't understand is running. I mean you wanna run Josh Adams in that situation. If you're going to use one of the three running backs, that's probably the best call, but I'm not running to the right behind the one offensive lineman that you can't really trust. At this point. I'm running. I'm running to bind Jason Peters, even as banged up as he is. And and trying to go that route, you know, I it just that's that's part of what's been going on with this team. This year is is yes, they've dealt with a lack of injuries. But it doesn't seem like the team has been able to weather the storm and and make good decisions based on the personnel that the actually have out there. So hopefully, a healthier lane Johnson this week helps out a little bit Bilgee. It will see he didn't go through a pregame workout last week, which is not a good sign. Then clearly meant he wasn't gonna play at that point. Sidney Jones did by contrast in also is ramped up to a full participant in practice. You said so good to have him back. He talked about the top of the show, and we'll see essentially how he does starting on the outside. But yeah, the rest of the report, I don't know if the player, I would honestly. Yes, that you wouldn't just because you know, he was limited last week and he didn't play asleep. The limited all again, I'm just guessing he's not gonna play. We'll see him Friday. Final injury report. He's full going Friday. I was sudden the payment that changes. But I think you just go back to the line as a whole on both sides of the ball. Like, what was the strength of the eagles last year? There was the trenches and this year. Can you really say the same thing? Now, really the the defensive line has dropped off. I think there's still the strength of the defense overall than. I think they're above average unit. They're not bad all of a sudden, they're just not quite as dominant as they were last year. They don't they wear down late in the should honestly this should wait on late because there's no rotation that you don't have. Oh, Alan to journey hasn't been here. Dirk hurt. Brennan Graham came into the season with an injury coming off the ankle injury that he had offseason. So her Sloan year older, Michael Bennett has been very good. But also he's up there too. So it's it was tough and on the offensive line. Obviously you've been being up. All around you had a change at left guard, and it's not the same as it was last year. It's just a different year to coming off the Super Bowl. And maybe there is some complacency to some level there, and that is factors into the whole hangover discussion. So it's it's tough when that's the strength of your team. And I think this team overall a good job of putting the resources they are in the focus there. I think in the long run that is another reason to be encouraged about early faith in the future. So they value those sides of the ball. And you know, if they can prioritize that I think that will pay off ultimately as did last year. But right now, it's just not good enough and to have big vian there. I think people don't realize how much of a liability that is Mike who had a great breakdown of that unbelie Dhingra nation. It's not just about like the one on one of, you know, lane Johnson being replaced by the who on a, you know, a glance from if we're talking about him big V is serviceable, I think anyone can. Agree with that doesn't mean as good. He's certainly there's a lot of bad, but you know, overall generally serviceable, but where does that serviceable level? You know, what does that if you stick them in there any serviceable, it's a he serviceable because you're asking a lot of other players to help him out through the game. And that as takes effect on offense as a whole all of a sudden, you're leaving more players into blocks or chip, and that's you know, hurting the offense. So that's kinda just wear. It starts there in the trenches. And they haven't been good enough. And that's a big issue. Well, one last thing before we before we move on about the about the saints as I just wanted to you know, we didn't really talk much about drew Brees. But his one twenty three point eight passer rating is the best in the NFL and his connection that he has with Michael Thomas is something else. ES ESPN stats info had this number. Drew Brees has connected with Michael Thomas on eighty nine and a half percent of his throws to him this year that would be the highest completion percentage for any quarterback wide receiver duo in the last. Fifteen years just they have a special connection right now. But they also rely heavily on their running game. And if there's any cause for enthusiasm that it would be that the eagles run defense last week notwithstanding is generally pretty good against the run. But again, we mentioned that Kamara does so much out of the passing out of the backfield in the passing game that really he's just he's such a double threat and that that team just figures out a way to run the ball on team. So it really it just a phenomenal phenomenal offense right now. And they are they are hitting on all cylinders at the moment. So we're going to give you our eagles versus saints pick your coming up in just a couple minutes. But as we do every week, let's just run down a couple NFC east games. And I threw one bonus game in there as well this week B L G, but we'll start off in Atlanta. The Dallas Cowboys go down to Atlanta to take on a falcons team that has played some some better football lately. But is by no means a great team at Lanta favored by three and a half points in. Most of the places that I looked at how you feel about the Cowboys at the falcons right now with Atlanta giving three and a half the falcons here Cowboys still sting deals, the stink more clearly, but I still think they're pretty bad as a whole in Atlanta. I was has their issues. They just lost the Browns. But I think that'll wake them up a little bit here back home. They know they can't take team easy. And I think they'll bounce back with a win. I just think they're better than Dallas overall. Yeah. I agree with that. I think I think it. Lana handles Dallas pretty easily. I wonder if Dallas probably played their best game of the season on Sunday night against the eagles. And now you travel to a balcony team. We're Matt Ryan is playing some very good football this year. He has had a very good season. It's kind of interesting that there's a lot of really good quarterbacks. Having good seasons on teams that are struggling Aaron Rodgers with the Packers Ryan with the balconies wince on the eagles a few different teams where where that's happening this year. Looking at the next game Houston at Washington Texans or favored by. Three points. And by the way, this is the last winning team on the Redskins schedule this year, Washington a home underdog to the Texans. Beal, gee, I I like Washington in this game a home underdog. I yeah. I know I know Houston's hot. But I don't know that Houston we've talked about the Texans that they're not really all that good and going into Washington and being a road favored by three points. I'm not I'm not buying that. Yeah. I'll take the points here. That's pretty easy for me. Washington. Isn't that great either? I mean looking at Buchan ears game like easily lost that in in a world. Like how the buccaneers move the ball for over five hundred yards in only score three points points. It was an unbelievable cacophony of turnovers from that happens give teams that amount of yardage against Washington. You know in simulation over so many times, they're not scoring three points. Every time the head of the very rare outcome, so. Yeah, Washington sucks too. To. But you know, they don't suck as much as some other teams. But they're they're not great. But still I don't think Houston's good. We've talked about that some of these winds here like their overtime in there. A lot of them are like really close. They the Broncos a couple of weeks. Right. Where like, you know, Denver misses. A last second field goal legs. They're not very super legitimate team to me so should to home. They're getting point setting. That's a easy there, by the way. Did you see some of the comments in Washington players have making have been making about their home fans in their stadium in calling them out? Right ribbon him like crazy as it's such a terrible crowd. Washington. Redskins crowd used to be great back in the day. You know, back in the back in the Joe Gibbs days. It's just there is no zeal for that team in that stadium. Even at team that has a good record. There's no confidence in the city in that Balti. Balti any fairness to them that stadium is horrible. At least from what I hear. I haven't been there awful, maybe stadium in some more van come it's impossible to get to it takes forever to get there. It's it's totally inaccessible. The in stadium. Experience is dog crap. It's precipice few is terrible from the pictures. Yes. Yes. I've actually been in. I've been in the press box. I was I was working as a as a runner for Westwood One. When they were doing an eagles Redskins Sunday night or a Monday night game years ago. I think this is back. This is back in oh four in the Super Bowl season. And I was in the press box and that you are tucked away over to. I don't even. Golly, it was hard to even know where it was your unlike the fifteen yard line having to look diagonally across. He couldn't see anything just it's just awful. Unbelievably awful. I look at Tampa at the giants. I mean, really who cares. But I ended because it's an NFC east game. Tampa favored by one point on the road. It's a pick them. You know, Tampa put up a lot of point. I mean, I think tap is going to move the ball on the giants. Tamp is going to score points. And I don't think the giants are going to. I mean, I know the giants are playing Tampa defense. That's brutal. But I don't know. I think Tampa has got more talent. I'll take the buccaneers in this. When Beal g I took the giants Lashley. And I was right. I think it was easy to me. They were getting points on the road San Francisco team. I'll take him again. Because I think that they're they're bad. Clearly love Eli manning. But I just think you know, I think the teams are playing here worse leading the forty Niners worse. And I think the buccaneers were they are they also have to be pretty bad. They also have some various rub side there with Ryan, Patrick, of course. But the giants, and I would love for the giants to win all continue to do is kind of screw up their draft visiting. So. Yeah. All right. And the big game that that we're going to get on the NFL schedule. This week is the Kansas City Chiefs at the LA Rams. I mean, I think everybody thinks this is a Super Bowl preview. Not me. Not you. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. Let's do that. But the Rams are favored by three points in this one g how do you see this? When shaken out buddy, I will say, I think the Super Bowl preview is would be rather. Kansas City versus the ram are the saints. I think the saints are going. Okay. And since it seems we will get into a little bit. It just feels like it's their year you watch that. Did you watch that Monday night football game or ideas broke like just feels like it's their year? It really does to me. Drew Brees is probably his last ride. I would assume maybe he's having amazing season. This Rams scenes team is very talented. These Alie have gone to the Super Bowl last year. They'll have the Minnesota American. I haven't so true. Very good. But as far as this. She the teeth at Rams game now which will be played in LA instead of Mexico City is terrible right field conditions and everything huge game. And a great Monday night football game. The Monday night football league has really not been too great for a couple of weeks now. And this game is easily the game of the year the entire league so far at least on paper. Man the chiefs I took the chiefs to win in the GM picks. So I can't do that. And not take them here. Getting the points. I just think you know, Elliot's good team. But I think I just think that the are better. I think they. Their offense as even better. I like Pat Mahomes than Jared Goff, a big factor for me the quarterback thing there, and I'll take Andy Reid over Sean McVeigh as well. So that's really comes down to me. I will take the chiefs with the points on the road. I'm gonna ring the bell on it has. I think I this feels like an Andy Reid overthinking. We haven't had it yet. And now they're right there and the Rams are really good team. I again, I don't know how much of a home field advantage L A has. But I know Kansas City has a huge home field advantage so indefinitely benefits. The Rams be playing this game in Los Angeles. But I think I think LA beats Kansas City here for no other reason than I do think that Andy Reid is due for a game where he he basically makes the bunch of wrong decisions poor clock management so far that they've had enough talent to make Andy Reid. Look, really good. And I love Andy Reid. I hope he wins the Super Bowl this year. I'm pulling for the. Chiefs. If you know as it looks like the eagles are not going to be in contention here for this thing. But I do think this is one of those games were Andy's going to go in and it's just not gonna happen for for Kansas City. The Rams at home are incredibly good. I do think it's gonna be high scoring obviously. So bet the over everybody if you're going to do that. But I will take I'll take the Rams I'll take the Rams as a three point favorite here in LA. So let's move on to the eagles versus saints pick. And really short. Is there any rationale anyone can make depict the eagles this week? I mean, the NFL is a random league we'd things can happen. The bills can go to Minnesota and somehow blow the Vikings out makes no sense can happen. Yes. Anything can happen in the NFL. But it won't happen this week. I just I can't see it. I can't. And I guess I was saying the same thing when the eagles had just gotten the doors blown off of them on Thanksgiving Day two thousand fifteen and then they go to New England to play the patriots in the patriots. Somehow. Sam Bradford a quarterback crazier things have happened again. But I just don't see it with this team. I just. They've been competitive all year. That's an underrated thing about this seem like they've been in every single game. The they haven't lost a game by more than one possession. Yeah. That's definitely going. I'll moral victory. But it's it's the context they're not this horrible team. Third teams that are really bad that are getting blown their doors blown off of them. But that might be the this week again the saints offense is really good. I think the saints kind of are going to take this one a little bit personal because I think they really did think know that they could have gone to this revolt. Impossibly one have they had the chance to play the eagles last year. And I think they kinda wanna prove that in this one. So I really like the saints here. I think my prediction that I gave to canal street chronicle who by the way saints writer actually took the eagles in this game. What no idea? Yeah. So go read the article began if you wanna see why Saint tweeter things that you can win the. Week. But to me, I just don't see it. And I am going to take the lose forty two twenty one. Boy, forty two twenty one man. I I think the agree with you there. The only way the eagles could win this game is if they get a bunch of wacky turnovers if there's maybe a special teams touchdown which eagles haven't come close to breaking special teams touchdown this year. Or maybe the turnover thing happens. You know, get a ball tipped at the line. That gets intercepted runback for six or something like that. There's an injury or something like that. Or, you know, just the saints come out flat. Maybe I can't imagine the saints would that this would be a trap game necessarily for New Orleans because this is the defending world champions as mentioned they do feel like they probably could have gone into Philadelphia last year and given certainly a better game than the Vikings ended up giving the eagles in the NFC championship game. But I don't think so I think I think the saints are going to be up for this game as well. And I just you look at you look at it on paper and doesn't seem to be anything. The eels can do to stop this to stop this offense. I do think the eagles will do a better job than. Most at keeping New Orleans out of the end zone. Maybe they do seem to have the ability to force more field goals touchdowns. So I don't think I'm going to put the score in the forties for New Orleans, but I got New Orleans beating the eagles thirty four to twenty four. I do think the eagles will pile up some points during the course of the game here and there, but it's not it's gonna be like it has been it's going to be kind of a slog going down the field, and you know, even against a defense that some weeks can be quite porous New Orleans gonna handle the eagles pretty easily here as well. So I'll be interested to check out what the New Orleans right here. What what his rationale was for picking the eagles because I sure don't see it. But we got a four twenty five kickoff. It's on FOX on Sunday afternoon. The LG we got a four and five football team. Getting ready to go up against Nate one team. What are your final thoughts? My friend. Good final thought right there. I just don't know to say mediocre team. They're boring. We just did our long podcast about them. So thank you for listening. I appreciate it. You might want you up on the team. But don't give up on us. Obviously push. It. You listening to us. We'll be here for you win or lose the whole rest of the season good or bad. So at least you can have that to look forward to. And I guess that's about it. Don't how about this. Don't totally get blown out this week and that'll be the a week moral victory. Yeah. Let's let's let's keep it to a one possession loss. If we if we could just in keeping with the team here of the two thousand eighteen season. Just a reminder folks, if you haven't done so yet if you wouldn't mind leaving us a rating and review at apple podcasts would help new eagles fans, find the podcast. And so if you haven't done that yet, and you can would mind spending a couple of seconds going apple podcast, finding we agree nation and leaving a review for all the. Shows we have here we would greatly. Appreciate it. That'll do it for episode number twenty one of BGN radio for Brennan league out. Non John Stolnis. Everybody. Try and enjoy the game on Sunday to make sense. Hey, everybody. How you doing? That's good. 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Kloset Konversationz  Episode 22

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Kloset Konversationz Episode 22

"You're listening to the podcast detroit visit w._w._w. Dot i'd passed introit dot com for information <music> what up the hey welcome to our show ooh and we are cloudy conversations. I can never get that right. We're working. Twenty-one shows the quasi conversations. Thanks for supporting us tonight. We have a very special show. I would call column like game. Changers detroit game changers right. We never came up with the title but game changers right now. We have clever. You're would up to him as kid clever that is he looks really clever. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for the invite. You know maybe travel with crutches honey south m._v._p. Real periods on the wall as he has his head down shut out to be <hes> emails what he wants to see how the podcast cast life go so we are very grateful to have him and so hopefully we are on our ps and qs tonight well. Maybe just a little bit the way the wind blows. I didn't get the shower or no i did but i didn't. My hair wasn't wet okay. The rain outside has wet my hair as you can see the rain on the window. I told her she looks like a malibu barbie malibu berkeley. How about that yet so we want to get started. We're waiting on danny always win always win always win and danny but we are there he is he is on right now. Hey honey. He will be pulling up shortly but we are going to get right into the gusto with clever yeah. Y'all got me feeling good. I got fiji water over your live life nothing but the best where our closet conversation gets back. I like little things that make me feel. I'll tell you we are so happy that you're here a little bit about yourself. Who are you who am. I'm an amazing guy. First and foremost also coming from the city of detroit been working in the entertainment. Industry's is two thousand five. I got my start in radio. So i worked with w j o b <hes> i was dr daria show producer for two and a half years help get his show to the number one show from six to ten and from there my goal was to be on air to be on air radio personality personality but is detroit politics or is is difficult so what i did was i took my brand to the internet so i created a website called clever vision dot com now where i interview some of your favorite notables on ahead <hes> jay kololo near big big sean who else i don't we don't interview frank lucas <hes> uh-huh future like you name candy bars like a lot of the people on come up from that two thousand and ten era yeah we we've been able to feature on so he's been pretty good. We've been blessed beautiful beautiful so you you're familiar with the interview process. Oh for sure for sure. I went for amazing went to howard university flu shot out the our you know our communications radio tv and film so i'm pretty comfortable off too nice. I like that. 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I like to find out what's going on with people you know tell their story creatively adult and so that the world get disease so run run into different people and also create a platform where i do comedy shows so we've been fortunate enough to use the platform where i was interviewing people and to create a stage and i figure gone knew a lot of people and i knew a lot of talented comedians like i love comedy. I think comedians are some of the most brilliant people they are one of my best friends. He's the funniest comedian here comedian the and josh adams so i'm just like okay. I want to bring some more awareness to when i'm doing with the website and also give him a platform so we started a weekly comedy show at club rain back in the day <hes> and i will rain is that is <hes> in east market. Oh no strip club it. It was it was a spike easter market and then from there. We moved on to exodus rooftop. We had a rooftop comedy. Show live ban it. It was crazy. We don't featured a lotta comedians from all across the country and yeah man we just building platforms and putting a spotlight on detroit's. That's my thing is letting my talented shine and use my avenues to a lot of other talented people too shy okay. I know you mentioned that she right <hes> scripts there. You're into film as well yup. I'm working on a few <hes>. A few <hes> coming age stories wanted to come to a stories about being from detroit and is. I can't give everything away but it's the coming coming of age story. I'm looking at shopping to a few different networks and got a lot of people that's been successful here and moved to california going back and forth to california where i will end up being right for a minute so so yeah like that's that's what i'm working on tv shows and manages just being creative in also worked with d._t._l._r. Villa i don't know if you guys ours are familiar with their villas like footlocker but we sell more clothes. 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They don't care about anybody else. In your own or conversation he came in third and everybody like what up though though my jones was the same way so those were two ooh yeah. Mike don't just like that too. That's that's what mitzner i'd say. No matter how big whatever no righty right people are people in thank. You got to treat everybody to right away absolutely absolutely signing questions <hes>. What about like family structure do you do. You have have any children or no. No babies is is just me right. Not my whole my whole focus is is just make sure i create myself some stability into into where i know where i'm going. It's never gonna be the perfect time we all know that but make sure i got some more structure underneath me go to california granted out on my own and then you know start family eventually. That's probably to go dating anyone. I mean i'm i'm focused mostly all just just getting getting he sat around. Gotta be helped shot around on you know i'm. I'm just focused on me for the most part. That's awesome. Do you come from a big family. Now we act. I'm actually from a small family oldest three so i got a younger sister estimate hotel and a younger brother so she's into entertainment as well. She does video editing editing filming modeling donor thing shut out the lean umbria laying around she the truth she go right family. Is there somebody in your your family that kind of puts you guys in that you know entertainment industry yeah <hes> i actually grew up in the club <hes> my family owned on <hes> cabaret hawk or a new york disco on the west side of detroit near south west and my mom ran it so i was in a club at like three years old when michael jackson dance has moved in and running around the club so it's always been ingrained in me like just being around entertainment. I've always knew different facts about different people that was doing different different things that entertainment and i got to meet mason in the third grade and my mom was like yeah. He wanna be on radio whatever she was like bring them down but she never brought me down to the radio then i got an opportunity <hes> i freshman year in college. <hes> i started off here. I start off o._c._c. and a friend of mine. I was like man i wanna be. I was going to have not talking to a friend of mine like man. I want to give off radio and do this stuff. He say man. I actually just got hired at w. j. o. b. If you want a possibility for answering she bring your resume and i can see what i can do. He got me in the door and they couldn't get rid of. I n turned a year and a half and today end up hiring me okay how did everything from answering phones to go on to get on food for the program director and and <hes> yeah just just working and that's where i actually met this guy shout out to be meals over there in the could okay now right now won't come to the table able though before it is our own even fret so not s. That's pretty much you know what i come from so just entertainment and just grinding and just figuring out ways where detroit we can move as a unit okay okay so so like <hes> like wisher. What's your three year plan. What do you see yourself in like three to five years from now three years. I see myself and l._a. Establish <hes> building relationships in order to bring back here so i figure i have a t._v. Pilot show going. We're acting puma komo detroiters on that show or be a part of that and <hes> you know just just building from there just creating that bridge bringing hollywood to detroit so that's pretty much what i saw that you had a picture with <hes> my cousin robert townsend. That's my that's one of my <hes> people. I look up to is he. He pretty much been a groundbreaker foot black film or you can send to you yeah that's like i say that's one of the people i <hes>. I look up to one industry for their moves on proper tiles. He's been able to like you said create platforms ormes brain black hollywood and people like nick cannon was able to do the same thing so absolute auto business moves nice nice nice well. I mean i know a lot of us as you know that are in the entertainment industry and you know trying to elevate you know to the next level. We have mentors of some sort. You have any mentors <hes> no. That's that's an issue like like here like a lotta people either either people get it here and that's all they have. They hold onto unfortunately a lot sometimes or they get it in a leave and never come back so one thing i'm being going. Here's mentor okay so i work with a lot of and i started on a nonprofit caught <hes> vision for change like a flip clever vision where i mentor like he's aged thirteen through eighteen. How long have you been doing that. <hes> i actually just finalize this this year so i'm a one c three this year guy my status in. I'm working with schools. I started off last school semester. I o part. I did <hes> <hes> unconventional career day so i brought a lot of people with like a lotta dope creative skills like from the entertainment world like to the high school and you know we just talked to him. We kicked it. We didn't wear suits came just how i'm dressed now and just kicked a win them and say you possible for you to do whatever we gotta. Do some turn an anti tour next year and we're going to go. I'm going to at least fifteen high school. Sure sure we ought to have conversations with yeah. Yes yes <hes> you have your drink made. Sir course headphones on. He is ready to go. Danny's all ways skis me. Daddy always wins and he's always ready 'cause he's ready. Hunting course okay danny. I am christy other holes in a closet conversations a pleasure to be here. Okay okay. I like your jewelry. Say were you all right cool and he's like the curator behind. The scenes were music and poetry in the film comedy ready behind and in front. You know right so okay. Eh we working. We work and we still have a lot of moves come. I love <hes> something that you had on the air about collaboration that clip that you i was talking to somebody from another state and the topic of collaboration came up in <hes>. I guess you kind of felt slighted in a way that a lot of detroit's people well don't collaborate the way that we should yeah i watched the documentary in documentary was actually talking about <hes> chicago and how like how michael jordan came up and and data staying with the with the gym shoes and it went from that to like kaya again opportunity dying see virgil whatever so my day going crazy. I went down to chicago. The people was <hes> was chicago. We all here doing this which are doing in detroit i and she was. There's like it's like man like we gotta start working together like we way more doper. No no no. I know where i'm from. I come from we way more doper so we gotta find ways to work together and that's not just entertainment. That's businesspeople. Whatever absolutely so big on just crabs in the barrel mentality. We we get eight wanna want to hold onto the right. People say they don't really mean it. You know like not you know but a lot of representatives remaining nigga fuck you up as the main guy saying you know i'm up close up yeah. That's that's why i was good but i was actually one of the things you were talking about earlier and you hear it over and over and over again and i don't care if it's entertainment business tack now you're good in detroit to a certain point <hes> and then you cut them in one of two and then two things happened one. Everybody supports you until you hit that point and and then then they just want to start tearing down <hes> and then two if you want to go higher than that you must leave right you have to get out of sure and then come back yeah so big awful like i need to be in atlanta dot for rock bottom. Rock bottom would be hurting autumn day stone is she was telling me just alias rapper and the city bro. You don't act like you put your lips rapper. I'm i bro. I don't even like to be in categories like that because i really be supporting people for real. You know super humble yeah. That's that's what it is in a a frosty. Almost i just see the rappers as really imposed a made it or whatever they are seeing a wrapping all your songs. You act like you know me you see me. You can follow me on instagram said which running around happy to see me you up my ass on me all type of weird stuff like that happening. Just be like that's what just be making where you'll want to stick together be too much fake and frost of one on money with the guys. I started with help everybody else too but i must stick with my guys. I know believe me. I mean i'm not i'm not trying to be like like koumba or nothing like that but he's like no. You can't hang out on the radio radio life for the last three years. I'm the ones that i'm one of the guys who really brought the doe boys and teesside together. You know what i'm saying. Actually me and payroll did the song when i get. I'm saying a welcome to detroit on that. Just came out payroll actually just dropped it on his <hes> on his youtube page. Mia hamm did that song before not see grizzly vis peasy and payroll data song we supposed to do that's on the east or west together. I was the first person put up the pitcher will rock and snoop and said i miss both they may go viral. I don't speak on none of this stuff because my people going. Oh yeah got a happy man like it's gotta be more than just me and you like you said we just gotta keep doing exactly and what one of my older home. He's told me he was like man. Everybody be killing me trying to king detroit but detroit is not a city that you cannot. You can't be one person and run. Detroit is never been that way. It's never been that way about my neighborhood. I said i'm from i said where you affront with that big ass smack across your chest. Come from matter how tough you are like we we're like you can kill a hundred people people. Come on man with that. We're going to kill you kill. You just could've killed half america. We attack you look. We've always thinking as a you only human but i'm saying that at the end of the day so if you get too big for your britches like this happened to my neighborhood like it'd be a guy he'd be soft here. <hes> he ended up defendant celtics bully and then he started getting too far gone too far because he he ain't he don't know how to be responsible with being tough. You get what i'm saying. So once he gets respect he abused then. We had to take him out. You know just like career. He tripping grandma's and everything i gotta go the community just trying to go. We might lose twenty because he played. You know my my older home. He told me that he was just like <hes>. It was a shout out to <hes> the o._j. Cart mcgirt man he was just like betrayed has never rabin a city where one person ran you go to sports. He's he's never been where we had a superstar. It's been a bunch of dudes that worked together and just was able to pull it off a._d._a. Pistons it's the two thousand and four pistons like shoe e. Even plants like is autos people in place working towards one go whatever now and we we run auto industry industry with him. You know you punch a finger out and just hit. Somebody is the pope but you can take all your fingers together. Struggle powerful blows signed thing <music> sticking together and you know i agree. You can't really do not want. That's why we have votes and stuff like that. You know what i'm saying. Well you know they have whatever uh-huh quickly <hes> sani. This is be meals. He's a producer. I don't know if you all know each other but now you do welcome to closet conversations and <hes> yeah who who is danny. We wanna get hanoi you. You came in you. You're welcome to go live because i know you have like a lot of fans. Quick story about about danny <hes>. I just met him. What three weeks ago three weeks ago at the white party parties that i wanted to say because she was in los action work. Thank me the somebody because people kept coming rams and they was trying to see like who is issue out because you know i wanted brad brad do none of that. Definitely you know me you don't and i'm so humble with it. You know it was in order to it was like this is actually the security guard said to me. I said man he said because he tried to stop you from coming man. I just saw you see here and get up out chelsea eight times to stop me from stopping people from coming back here to say something to you like eh. Yo fans should really appreciate that super super humble. He allow me to sit down with him and his crew. It took a picture absolutely i did. Did we killed a mouse <hes> yeah we killed him. How the hell of a walmart we're in mere territory. Gotta go beyond living in new york new york. Oh than-thank thanks to run but anyway we've grown from that. Thank god no mice in the house <hes> so yes. I mean just a humble spirit and i did not know who he was. I mean i used to be a little groupie little yeah. I didn't know but i did take a picture and let her know law was like sat out the kayla cash cash call. Kayla was like you went danny. I'm like wait. I had to look and figure out what the man's name was. I knew i tagged them and she's like hot. Girl girl ms banks <hes> out the u._k. Low cash and <hes> yes <hes> as we as we see that yeah that danny is on on <hes> well we know him now okay conversations all right all right yep <hes> vinyls clothing. That's what that's where <hes> she's like. She shops at my uncle's store sore so mono yeah so it is a small world and yet we got them all here and we need to know who is danny who is danny where where louis raised gives us a level of history mic mac in garland maccabi were area born to <music> my mother and my father <hes> denisa wine help our never talk about this but i come from a legendary awesome. <hes> my daddy curry boys way rick. <hes> movie was actually based on my daddy. I'll watch ozzy was my uncle niece with the the <hes> the baby hog the baby. He's called me on these. That's my because i played at the maximum audit restrict credit okay. That's escort interviews like never speak on you hard at first. I'll closet conversation that far okay folks who has fire you. You know to get into the rap industry. I actually been rapping since i was twelve years old. K look our p._d. Jack trip jack trip was like one of the the people who really like he wasn't tough is h. E. l. l. cost in here. This is uh-huh damn interviews radio interviews last month and a half and i couldn't cuss and it was so if you have to rowen growin ono cut those stuff but he was just real. You know actually a pretty boy getting money. He's be up on my cousin to excuse as me. I asked him one day. I was like my hottie wrapping. I was eleven years old. I might be rapid. He liked all revenues as san and were thinking of the next word they're making make sense them and making a run right right. I gotta make sense. You could be among the rap singers who face gave me fucking off beat them. I got wives but anyway oh all right okay so <hes> bro really disown me like tote. We told me and i just dr practicing like by the time i was thirteen. Everybody neighborhood. I e the best reprimand mia <hes> my homeboy might say like the best represent. I was so good and wrapping in high school my friends come. Give me just i got somebody for. You like on better wrap. I'll ah actually a football player. We can say when i was like. I was gang member of the goodness of what i write. Though it wasn't true at all that's right all the worst neighborhood sticking together talk to this day. They ask you forever. Well don't like who's your who's your favorite rapper or like growing up. When i was growing up i listened to jada kiss styles p underneath the puzzle rapper light. If you listen to bars i really got a bar. Oh i really got me in the studio. Shot is where as milo brother you know. I'll because you know your boss. We'd love we all and we win. We only a few years apart so hasbro as marlborough made me feel good with the big bro. We really sign. May dollars like two years stuff like that man. Get somebody saying no sound way. Liners each found it might be farmer wpro. I'm feeling oh status. Oh okay. I actually really didn't like cash money when he first time out but i i learned to appreciate caz money. I learned to appreciate gucci man. 'cause gucci man came out. I was so mad at the u. I couldn't get away with this like to say. He was so true but i really love florida. I love it when i go back and listen two years old music. I love it like a swing my dog. I look i'm actually buzzing. Probe album court gucci really okay like i like it. I'm gonna drop <hes> as laws and is all gucci man style beats tight beats and i'm on that on my trap stuff you get to kick it went on <hes> on when he came here when he did the joint naw naw naw i met gucci a meet them through to the rest in peace bands the he the one the guy got killed. <hes> saint clair shores the baby salary. Wow i do remember n._f._l. Yup yup bans the result to looming on put me in my tasha owner. That's how i ended up but i'll deal with that. Taking pictures with celebrities seem people. Do this with me are they. I <music>. I'm right. I don't care about it because i know people really appreciate. That was my question. I witnessed your fans. You have loyal die hard fans that obviously been down for you from day one and <hes> you know you seem like you know not seeing it appears it is that you know people respect. You and everybody wants to see you win. You know what i'm saying saying. How does that feel if feel good like even sometimes like i'll fill in dial right right for whatever the case may be could be for anything because a lot of stuff happening. I'd lost a few low low these last few months. I was like filling real dom because i ended up losing my little cousin that was like my little sister and she ended up. I think martyred the same way. My mother got martyred off on my mother when i was seven so she ended up that twenty seven years later on the same day corner from where my mama got either one of them stay down there downtown downtown like mama got killed them all elliott varner tamas around the corner from the graveyard shift around the a yard gate <hes> terry. I'm so smart because i seven years old. I remember reno newspaper. You know what i'm saying just knows just seeing what happened happening all but my cousins going i like that and it was crazy that she went out the same way and she had when mike a serial rapists yup i had got the call that was recent recent. Yeah i got the call like early in the morning to talk about it because i'm the strong individuals <music> got the call about six in the morning thinking that it's my brother and my cousin rally hurt because my dad and my aunt calling me and this is the girl the you know what i'm saying like all over. She's twenty seven yeah. That's the guy that they was looking forward as walking doc it around or whatever like in a martin luther king area that's around here though i am sorry to hear that ah but i was filling down and i went into a gas station and i always take a lotta pictures but this day i literally like the gas ask station is on now monographs. You can come in from both ways. I literally got overwhelmed by fans like they just went crazy. The people that work there and everything i've never been to this gas station and it was just like auto pilot people the way three more walking than to more walk in and that seems to be strong next love me so much of a half inaugural. When everybody watches gave up like their life it will hurt my fans and people that really love me and look up to me. There's so many people that b._m._i. D._m. that i don't repose that just really appreciate the repulsed that really be reasonable. Let me know how music change their life and stuff like that that is good that is good shot off to the umbrella project and new era detroit because <hes> new air support them and donate to them. That's that's almost like martin orgnization too because i feel like we all need to stick together and they reached out to me like three years ago and it was like just cleaning up the neighborhoods and stuff like that so guy with them and we cleaned up my neighborhood of a few were they actually do so much. That'd be everything shoutouts near detroit right. They actually got with my with my cousin and stuff. They got they ended up coming up with the whistles for women and children's blow whistle. That's the thing when he grabbed me. Put his hand on her mouth. Mouthy she really is crazy. Wow yeah and and the police say they didn't come <hes> they came saw blood and left and they only came back because they rely she was macos and and they were like i'm i can make a lot of stuff happening. You know what i'm saying so they find the person y- ended up finding him probably a few weeks he couldn't he couldn't have but i'm just i just wish we could. We could got them all care about the right lane street years about this this one i had to our shit and you know. I don't think i would have got on a years. 'cause i really snapped at the wrong role wrong place it really just around a lady. Stay away from these bombs. Y'all think you can hurt. You know what i'm saying hurt you even if he message even if it i heard you know like like if he ain't got no place for you to be you shouldn't you shouldn't be with him every day and might be cool to go somewhere. Y'all over there at night but you over there stand with this man on wherever he hit you know like they was her mama house. She could always always move because she's a straight a student <hes> good grades and all that she had just graduated the day she got margaret. She pulls me getting hurt. A certificate ticket for a surgical technician teaching everybody wound whereas the lady on our teacher came spoke at her funeral and everything was twenty serve life. Life is short and i mean like i always say hug the person that's closest to you. Call and tell them that you love them and <hes> like. I say i lost my mom. When i was eighteen months. My line is called berkeley and i feel that people are protected by an angel and i feel that you are protected by an angel because i'm sure sure that you've had situations that god has brought you through when he likes him. Okay i'm here okay so somebody's looking out for me told me i was going to be some yeah. He's going to be a preacher when i see that in a mountain fifty years u._b. I wanna under the government is fun. I don't get too far open all i._b._m. On us when i was talking komo news seat and then three days later that a lot of people i'll be speaking i'll be i'll be like man. Let me just sort of talking. Please don't talk about this thing that you had a great time conversations and we love them and we will be back <hes> next question. We got questions. We got questions. <hes> so you're making money moves of course okay okay. Music moves money moves like by yourself. Are you like begging. Hey that again for the slow. People get that back in when i get that back in when she did i do too little danny always win. Okay so so you making money moves. I would assume by yourself. Is there fortuity suit to sign with the label. How do you feel about the label relationship. I'm willing to sign with allegra but i'm i'm not willing to just the south or anything like they offer me something. In two thousand seventeen it was like a it was like seventy thousand. It was like two weeks before t- grizzlies. It wasn't through the same label but my manager was like you gotta sign before him because detroit so fake. They love you right now. They hate you in this. There are like build me up just to me like we just say bye. Day was talking about all that i saw all the rappers feel like database begging me for features you get. I'm saying how gays some of these guys features how much is a feature by the white since we're on that yeah twenty five hundred some light sightsee same like there's a lot but we have to save up to twenty five native future from the fan look when i post. I'm really support page. You'll be getting all these pictures on his page after this phone features from me and spent that money it was worth i'll guarantee. They got their money back triple-double. 'cause people start booking you off seeing me you doing songs and i'm tagging you in the strip clubs. They get the book and they a book. They probably not going to book you what they need for like twenty five hundred thirty five hundred. I don't think might might book you four thousand or five hundred they the hundred and then the guy's got the features to call me like man yeah they gave me filing broken up to a ban on hill and stargazing two thousand and the of the people who can't ain't get a feature from me they feature from you got to solve such and says i who dwells. You got the song daddy right. It's like not just paying artists just because he cocky and you have been jay z. Ain't nobody knows it house. Deal for that feature of law dear to me because people will get that feature on your level outta gate on features two guys and then i see them unless we decide person. I know you're not broke out but i'm so humble myself. I'm proud of you. That beats out yeah. See some guys get features and you know you know. Go go after the guy that i helped him. You know so like that. Uh don't appreciate it ana cameraman to governments who they called reach out to you. They wanna shoot joe videos. They believe in you. There's a lot of guys i'm gonna be gone as popular and they really start popping because they would shoot my videos air by a pop and follow me. You know so they seeing that you know they. They treat you like how you know. When you're younger you. You will be a little bit most weiner two guys and you see that in all help you you gotta put my foot down a little more <hes> pro <hes> opera folio already all needle like i hit you acquitted quick gach you and and they'd be doing whatever you want when they they like man is my favorite rappers like maybe so hard for for the cameraman here bro it don't do but it'd be hard because they make it grow not really know about the guys who reach out the cameraman who will reach out when you reach out to artists and you noted this helping you in a way to you. Don't switch on them to cameraman be acting like they rappers bro. I'm telling you you know all abundantly girls pitchers who popular cheeks these guys remarried they'd be they'd like an eri very pitcher that these girls posting an and they feel like they're in competition with us you get. I'm saying we had this cameraman. We're cameraman. It'd be like oh. He getting get money like you think he is. He can't even pay this video paid for video when you reached out to him. He was not choose videos afraid you've realized was was. He blew up a little bit 'cause even when they tell me they're going to the free. Throw him a couple of hundred zone but don't be worth it you you get off and by up on straight. I got everybody off you already on good. I need you know mo- switch up people like that. It don't take much because i see my video offers do videos and our so you just saw ten people start acting like you own time to work. It is work work but i don't seem video argue for not me. Tell him to turn it around him. San attorneys ron howard doing it. I've been waiting to sir. I'm scared of our editor. There's videos warm oban. Go look it up. Our that's our <music>. Are you took our really our some ninety our homework today and i was like felt like i was studying for over over a hundred a hundred <hes> real videos that movie the os and a lot of detroit artists. I actually turned the city on the nobody wants you videos like that. His shoot videos even poplar artists. They wouldn't shoot videos like that. My brothers either videos but they only so many. You know what i'm saying. I'm a visual person lavish ten videos band that one that was a biggie sample <hes> yes. I actually did to sixteen and twelve exactly the way he did. It and i. I kind of wish i'd evidence looks roofing lecture yeah. That's my favorite things. Mall should be on like two weeks. Stay yep. She's featured on there but yeah i. I love that so danny you know like how do you balance catered monday on my roy <hes>. That's what somebody said on here. I hope you can volume crowd. How do you balance you know being a father. Are you know anna musician as the hardest thing ever right because i can be gone out of town and and you know just on work anything. My daughter is my daughter's senior. Day is a problem. You know what i'm saying aside. She took him to the studio one day. He's like nannies finished. Come on. Let's go home. I in the studio for five days and they was mad. I was disliked sleet for our mbeki studio. Here's here's the four hundred fifteen euro okay. I actually him. When i was a young guy he made what i also always been great great father tomasson without no help from my dad. Nobody like oh man took care of my son. Actually <music> over sport or my kids got always always bless me to be able to do it. I just feel awful like his god because i didn't even know a had a son until he was like <hes> ten months and he looked like he was ten months abraham. I and the baby was her boyfriend baby. I'll okay popular. Is you gotta wait for a deal when i was talking to. I was just like out furious because i'm white how woman be i'll see the woman i like a woman talk like how in the same way <music> you've talked to like like you did like we was going through some and then let me see i look oh hell no. It's only eight men. The women do the same thing because one look like not on my level all right uh-huh right you like about her sucky sucky uh-huh that oh no we've gotta wet like a popsicle sucker. I like you like candy when trying to act like they're trying to not put not on. You ain't got us a t. You use a lesson. I guess what it is doing the right to the person you very noticed since i've been real popular the way the top is from out of the way i get. I get him out but i'm just saying like we're taking passage past yeah. Of course we have about five minutes. We're you don't have to have you back on in in both of you absolutely took flees he is he's a very humble spirit as well and eh hunger intel rifle grateful. That's one thing i wanted to make sure that we do here like the real definition of humble is a low submissive awesome. It's the low <hes> expectation of your worth or your aware so but we're grateful. We're grateful. I'm grateful. I'm grateful for uh-huh -ccomplish. Now you know we know we know in copy grateful for you know on the blessings lessens we have so have are july twenty third muscle really leo jalali from the best people aww that is a great person to december six. I'm like jay z sagittarius. Look i address by the end. I scratch my best friend birthdays. <hes> december sees that's crazy. Yeah you have to be telling me like say. He was crazy <hes> internet. I don't believe i believe that's how you raised and everything like negative and a lot of your remit and all about what you wanna. Do i agree agree yeah because when i was brought up it was one of the things like looked up to the dope man but i was like man these guys going to jail. You just not right enormous rate. I was like man my auguste bar then broke baud again then. He broke his again the ball and again. I said i can't take this. I i know what i'm gonna do. I say i'm going to get out here and i'm going to get the heck out of the way i'm gonna open up a business because these guys yeah. You got to prove that you follow the streets. It messed me up because i i actually owned a tattoo south for twelve years so i jumped out here. Wrapping streets just took win. The younger crowd at i in a younger crowd used to be like tattoos and then guys like us look. I'm you'll be twenty people. The bpm legend. I'm telling you know so. It took a lot of young guys just talking to my brother had told ugly man. You ain't no joke you know that. I heard that hands. Are you had a yeah. We we're gonna get back. Get you back on here have more questions <music> dispelling the myths a rumors of what people say about because after you as a nice little teddy bear you know very intelligent commonly but but yeah he might lead them hands yeah definitely <hes> we appreciate <hes> our guest danny always winning clever user due to our show closet conversations so definitely the door for him. You can follow us or um clouds of conversations on instagram a closet with a k. conversations with k which is the at the end and also closet conversations or facebook because well. I'm christy. Mack and barkley is barking. I also am a life insurance agent. We after dropping like flies so give me a call is serious. Don't put enough stress on your people say no go find me. Go fun yourself yourself. Don go fund me exactly saw you know what i think. My cousin had a real tragedy story in the two thousand dollars. She didn't have to have insurance because she's not thinking. It's going to happen right so give me a call. My number is two four eight seven zero three two four two nine to call me my name. My government name is crystal. Give me a call. Aw i gotcha back then you put insurance on your baby daddy baby mama your kids. Everybody you know what i'm saying. Make sure you had protection and so <hes> shout out to you. You got me about your social. Media media be meals. You have to give out. You have to step up to the mic. Just one good time k love muscles. Keep a real excite me. That don't know you didn't know you now. I do listen. That's very that's very rarely i swear i._b._m. Since trump has run up on me really what the guy was coming into <hes> interview lapierre low period interview to my little brother team he silo period and and the guy came down. He says danny always li. Oh my god i read a bowman events like i yeah so clever man. Make sure you follow me on. Everything is kid clever k. i. d. you see l. e. V. r. may be on lookout. Got a few things come bubbling with a few major. <hes> clothing lines here not really not here. International closing won't be wearing berkeley to berkeley validity. Are you know we do that as villa yeah yes love it and <hes> in the background. He is a fly on the wall kind of but i will still shout albie meals. If you're looking for one of the hottest producers in detroit in the mid west list in the nation holiday meals nicholas mill deuce bobby mills thank you and and again thank you for tuning into lousy conversation and podcast <unk> out the day. You're listening <music>. You deserve a night out on the town. Take you can now always turn heads with improved. Take normies bore me you dorm. Guess we both got that income and syncing common so our commerce why the millions are divide.

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Week 12 Waivers & QB Streamers, Machine Gun Mike

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I was I never seen nothing nine dollar five days. Here's how crazy last night's game. Was you? Brought my wife in to see it. Yeah. And if you don't know now, you know, that my wife is she's not the football fanatic. I'm like tiff. You gotta co she's like I'm decker. I'm like, did you gotta check this out. Did she appreciate what you had shoulder? He lovingly pretended to. Oh, that's good wife. Yeah. It was it was pretty crazy. And the game was so long say my story is my wife is not happy with how long it why had an event last night, my wife, and I went and watched the speaker. So I was I tape delayed the game. I went completely dark though on I noticed depressing. I had no one to talk to I turned on the DND's jas. I wanted. I was there. I have no one to talk and we're talking all night while you're nobody really rooting against me, though. So let's hear the rest of this. Whatever you set up the game to tape. It always ask you it's alive event. You want to add thirty minutes. Of course. I don't want to miss the end of this game. As far as I know the Kansas City Chiefs won the game because the the Rams were driving. And then it just caught out while you're you're first of all learn DVR, bro. If you learn to sports DVR, I'm an hour and a half on every sport van an hour and a half to everyone I've ever done. No, Joe is big bucks. As like a thousand terabyte DVR. Here's one eighteen Mike. Here's in mines Irving. Your DVR fro it's ninety percent for inference not Dora. If you ever needed the hour and a half, your home be real upset if it didn't if you know you lost that recording. It you enjoy the game. Oh, Jason I genuinely had a blast watching that game from the get-go. You know, there's crazier endings to football games more memorable. But I can't remember a game. Where from the first drive on. It was non stop entertainment. Pure greatness. Is that what you genuine question is that what you would want every week? Or would you prefer thirty five thirty one some defense being played. There was defense played. But there was defensive scores. Yeah. I don't settle for garbage. There were defending gory is garbage. When you give up when there's over a thousand yards. It's there's not a lot of defense being played. We agree with that. I saw people playing defense every snap scoring game in Monday night football history, over seven hundred seventy three games, this this better be the Super Bowl, we need to we need a rematch. Do you think it will be though? No. I think the states is really going to be very very tough to go through Orleans, but that's still going to be a great why say versus chiefs if that happened the chiefs, I mean, they lost in Foxborough. So if they don't have the one seed they have to go back there that's going to be a game to Andy Reid. We'll definitely mismanage the game in the playoffs. So it'll be it'll I was so impressed that he got to the two minute warning with three timeouts and it worked to his advantage gate. He gave them a homes a chance, but. I believe I went into last night's game in our league of record down by twenty with the tyreek Mahomes stack in one by eighty points. Something like that it was against me. That is correct. So that worked out real quick actual fantasy analysis on this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The the big players. Of course, you're they're great Todd Gurley is a top story from this game. We saw a lot of Malcolm Brown. Now. I was watching the game on skip thirty seconds. So I mean, unfortunately, I missed a lot of that stunning. Jason Witten analysis you but not so fortunate but go on but what my point is. I didn't hear anything about Todd Gurley of why is he not on the field? But you noticed it in passing. Which is I think what the point like there's something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There was something banged up wrong about Todd Gurley last night. Only twelve carries in a game. Where look it was one of the highest scoring games in NFL history. He put up his lowest scoring fantasy game of the year. People were freaking out about it. And for good reason because you had multiple red zone carries Malcolm Brown you had very few carries by Todd Gurley. And even from the design screen standpoint there in a few things to him. But it wasn't like a staple of what the. Offense is doing despite Brandin cooks going out for a brief period of time despite no Cooper Cup. And yeah, he seems banged up. But you got the by week you've got two weeks. And and, you know, you'll be okay. We haven't heard anything the other takeaway is Josh Reynolds six for eighty with a hose down. He was very involved. Eight targets compared to the other the big guys cooks at twelve Robert woods had eleven made. Josh reynolds. Yeah. I mean, this is the waiver wire show will get into that in a little bit. But in my view that he wanted it up. He is a one hundred percent must pick up your on pot potentially the best offense in the league. You're on the field at all times the opportunity for fantasy production will be there. And he's a good player. I believe he's a good player. He's a good player. I think we'll talk about. And when he comes up, and I think she was obviously a pickup depending on. We'll see what expectations are also Gerald Everett had too much down. Are we going to climb? He's a foundling. Everett's? Okay. I see. Yeah. Yes back. I'm adding him to my stream team. I don't think it was ever there yet this. It's coming. It was it was never there. But he's officially on the stream team when it comes tight ends in terms of like you can take a shot with him. He was probably, you know, in a game with this kind of over under which by the way, Vegas took a major bath sixty nine percent of peop- hope they're clean now that on the over there cleaned out. You're out there. He said sometimes you should pause to make sure you got the right. Joe never be because you could get like you. It's good or better. Mike like, they're all good. But you could be better. I could. But you just I'm like a machine gun. I got a fire him out. I agree. You are. Let's get into the news. News and notes from around the league. She can go machine-gun McGrane pampers. You get better with age and most most good. I don't think that's true Twitter at the F ballers, you can follow machine gun Mike at FFA bit, man. You can follow. Jason Jason F L. I'm at a Andy Holloway. I was live tweeting the whole game long of jealous. Fifty percent of them were Jason Witten related. Yeah. Jason Jason Witten has tweeted this last night he has a random analysis button, then he pushes and then just like it's like one of those dolls where you pull the string in the back. And then some sentence comes out and like fifty percent of those sentences tight end related. I put my favorite my favorite and booger. Did it to my favorite was negative place? Like girly he took a he took a little outside zone run. He lost a yard. And literally he goes. That's what I love about Todd Gurley. My favorite of the broadcast group is how they're emphatically in the middle of a point. And they're saying this is really good. And then they just stop it. I was done with that sentence. It's like what there's a bear. At your now. Go just stopped. Imagine the chemistry problems. We would have if we'd put Jason like out in the front room on like a ladder. And then we were like we just took up his headphones like the chemistry problem of having him down on the field. He jumps in. And he feels like he has to just scream one big sentence to you. And then go back to blade hands. Whitten? I'm sorry people. Every every few people are like I'm being too hard on them. No. It was bad. It is bad. They're all gone. This show is about fancy football. So let's get into it. News and notes Packers. Coach Mike McCarthy said the Jimmy Graham will try to play through his broken thumb week twelve. Yeah. Do you need you? What do you need your thumbs for they'll catching? Yeah. For the catch. It helps. I would. I mean, he's not a blocker. No. The thing is is he has been disappointing in general you put him out there with a broken thumb. He's someone you need to stay away from for fantasy in in my view until he proves Gerald ever. Lay was Jimmy Graham right now, every drop Graham to pick up ever today. I mean, it's the waiver show. Yeah. I mean, if you if you have to have a start next week, I'm not starting Jimmy Graham. So well, you can't start Everett next week. That is also true. So I would but I don't I don't think I'm dropping Jimmy Graham, my he's one of those situations where because of how bad the tight end landscape is I think you still need to hold onto an Aaron Rodgers. You know lead titan. So Lance kendricks is what you're saying. We're pick up pick. I would rather kendricks this week on you and Harding. Yeah. Can't carry on Johnson not expected to play on thanksgiving so fantasy football platforms. If you could just go ahead and Mark him out that would be killing wave or he's run tonight. I would appreciate it. So if he's not expected to play do you turn to theoretic in this in this game theoretic is a fine flex plus. I'll maybe he's a we'll talk about him soon. Then the bucks are going to go back to Jameis Winston as their starting quarterback ping pong ball keeps going back and forth at least for the first half. And yeah, exactly it's like we we do our projections. Every week. We always have to factor in the second quarterback in Tampa. And we're like is this second quarterback in Tampa gonna outperform Brock Osweiler this week. Yeah. It's it's basically who's higher tastes them hill who we know. We'll get word or the backup quarterback for Tampa Bay who might start half the game. Because did you guys realize that on the week? James Winston was quarterback fifteen did realize wing half of a game. Like finished ahead of Matt Ryan, it's effort. I mean, I think the number of few weeks ago was the quarterback. There's they still quarterback for Tampa is is in the top five knows QB to. Oh, okay. In the top two. And yet you can be buried by starting them because they get swapped out. OJ Howard getting a second opinion on the ankle initial testing revealed. Good news. This is good news for fantasy owners. But we know what is chance to place. Good news. So he wants a second opinion likes positive reinforcement. Now, he's I don't think he plays this week. Probably not it was projected to be high ankle sprain. Although didn't he have a high ankle sprain? Earlier this season and played that week. So he didn't play that week. He took some time. I was coming off the bye it was the by missed some time. That's why everybody will. We ain't freaked out about Cameron break for a week with OJ. Howard Bray didn't really deliver. Maybe he did come back that same weight too surprised everyone. I don't remember when he has not missed a well, he Mischa and four. But I think that's the Wiki went out. So we'll see correctly. Joe flacco chancy returns. And we twelve. But not expected back. I don't think you probably play Lamar Jackson if you expect it flacco back right away. That's what my view would be. I think if you were trying to bridge for a week, you might have played RG three. I think they'd probably planning on the margin for I'm with you. You understand what I'm saying? Yes. I think Lamar starts again in the mar will be a fine quarterback stream again, Marcus mariota suffered a stinger and week eleven he's not in the concussion protocol. He's hope they're hopeful. He'll be back to play Monday night. This is more related to can you trust a pass catching option or and Cillari piece against the Texans. No. I mean, that's a bad natural bench Amal and the Redskins have signed. Mark sanchez. That'll be fine. Mark Sanchez little Christmas gift for Mark. Welcome back now. And you know, Cole McCoy runs around a little bit. You could see Mark Sanchez saints. Don't put that on the world. No. You know? May be entertaining. But he's fun. Are you ready for Mark Sanchez to win the NFC east is that what I? What a world we live in what a time to be alive. And then upset you know, like the Rams in the first round. Oh, stop. It's just okay. Let's talk waivers instead. Let me in coach. Mark Sanchez, obviously, the big pickup here in the waiver. Okay. Chiefs in Rams, they get a week off. They deserve it. They score two weeks worth of points last night. So no Rams and chiefs in week twelve but other than that which may make up about half your roster. There aren't any other by weeks the remainder of the season. Let's start at the wide receiver position looking at the waiver wire big pickups this week who are your favorites? Well, we talked about him a second ago, but my two favorite pickups are Josh Reynolds at Cortlandt Sutton. Those are the two guys right now sons. Sutton's really can. In a lot of leagues. Well, we talked about this the last like three weeks running his schedule was really bad after DT was traded. But from this point onward, it is unbelievably great and not a single bad matchup. I think he's going to have a great rest of the way. And Josh Reynolds to me is a must start type of player. I think when you are on the field for you know, eighty nine percent of the snaps for a team that is passing the ball as well. As the Rams are. We don't know what's going on with Gurley. I mean, it's not always going to be as fruitful as Kansas City. The matchup won't be that good. But if you throw a guy like that out there in your flex, and you're and you're wondering, you know, you've got the flip a coin type of guys his probability of having a touchdown. Even in a bad game is higher than you know, having a throw out a player from the cardinals or player from the jets reminder just real quick Jay he is on by this week. Yeah. So you've been you're picking them up to stash him. Yes weeks. Yes. I I mean, it it still your favorite because he can't can I be the counterbalance though, please the counterbalance to me is this game. Obviously. Kansas City was a piece of the puzzle Todd Gurley being banged up. And then barely turning the running game as a piece of the puzzle. I look Josh Reynolds as an absolute look, I I understand picking him up. I understand the offense. I understand all those the snaps, but there are similarities here between him and Marquez Valdez scaling in the sense that not the number one option. Okay. Cook get lost in the shuffle, depending on the game plan, Gerald Everett, obviously had a big role Tyler higby caught a bunch of passes Brandin cooks left for a little while. I think you can get a great game out of Josh Reynolds. I don't think he's an auto flex. That's just what my I think he's full. I think he's unless you feel better. You know, NBS is out there for every snap. And he had a. I would still pick up. There was I don't think anyone in this in this wide receiver list is a why have Corwin Sutton? I I'd much rather have Taylor Gabriel. I would really we haven't even hit the name. That is is my number one guy that week is Trey Kwan Smith. Andy, Jay more. Yeah. Those two are are big pickups race one for the Norlin saints. I think this was the breakout game for him a ten for one fifty seven he scored yet thirteen targets. I mean, he was an absolute target hog this this past week and the scheduled for him is pretty delightful with Atlanta Dallas Tampa Bay are his next three matchups. I'm trick wants my number one waiver wire or number one wide receiver pickup of the week. He's probably better to talk about then Sutton or DJ more. He's he's far less than both of them. Because he had that gouzer. We talked about both DJ Moran. Tariq wants myth on the show yesterday. Rookie production goes up in the second half of the season. I would take. Yeah. I would take trae Quan over Reynolds sons probably owned in your league. Yeah. He he likelihood of him being owned is pretty high. Sure. And then there's guys like KiKi. He had a very solid game. Got nine targets five for seventy seven Maria's Thomas. Did nothing. Correct. And I don't I don't expect to Mary's to do nothing. But I thought the trade was very strange for Houston. It seemed like a panic move of willful or being out. And you're fighting for division us do brought in a wide receiver you thought could help. And Anthony Miller, of course is surging. He didn't do a ton this past week, but the Chicago Bears offense as a whole didn't really need to do anything. They were manhandling the Vikings. So all these guys are interesting, and I would go like I said Smith. Number one guy. Number two. I would pick up. Would be it would be something if he's there otherwise been DJ more. And maybe I'm missing remembering. But didn't you say yesterday? You preferred more to trick one Smith on the show, perhaps perhaps I said that on the show, but after time and digging into thing more, I I like trek on more. Well, does have the thanksgiving matchup against Atlanta? That is going to be great. I mean, whenever you can have one of those awesome high scoring match ups, and it's on Thursday gives you the advantage of knowing are you up. Do you have the lead? Can I play it safe the through the rest and trae kwanza type of player very boom bust where he has a bad game. And it doesn't go his way. Then you know, you need to swing for the fences. Elsewhere who would you start on thanksgiving Taylor? Gabriel or Anthony Miller Taylor. Gabriel had three times as many targets. But Miller is scoring scored five times in eight games. Do you want the volume of Taylor? Gabriel touchdowns. Anthony Miller we've seen the volume from Taylor. Gabriel. Will hit like this and certain maths before go arrest the season, by the way as well. Yeah. I'd rather have Anthony Miller couple guys just real quick. So you're in a super pinch get or getting super pinched. Yes. Okay. Yeah. But are you interested your department, the the the pinching, I don't know? It's not my department. So I figured it's gotta be or loose. Ellington who is now on the Detroit Lions if you haven't been paying attention. He came in and immediately made an impact nine targets was six for fifty two. I don't think any of us expect Marvin Jones to play on Thursday and with golden Tate vacating that slot role. Bruce Ellington, he's got juice. I mean, he I don't think he's as interesting as the other wide receivers we talked about. But if you're in a deeper league, Bruce Ellington, are you interested? Yeah. I I'm interested in the sense that golden Tate left a hole that was not filled by anyone and they went out, and they signed Bruce Ellington who is a good player Zoe's been a favourite of reception perception, he hasn't been able to see how hurt all the time. But if he's on the field is a good player and op. Opportunity will be there. I don't love the matchup though, this week against Chicago. I don't really think the opportunity is going to be there for him. You don't know. Because mar if Marvin Jones comes back, I mean Marvin Jones being off the field was a huge gaping hole. You expect Marvin this week? I do I think Martin is gonna play on Thursday. But I don't I don't know for sure. Most most platforms have projecting him to play right now. But we'll see let's let's live in the world right now, we're Marvin Jones is out. And you gotta make a waiver wire decision. Would you rather pick up? Bruce Ellington, Trey Quinn or John Ross. In so tomorrow night knowing about Marvin Jones Rix, and that's what you're going to have to do. Yeah. I mean, it's not as can be. I guess it'd be John Ross in that situation your banking on no green, and that's your banking. I know Marvin. Yeah. I mean Ellington's done this before I mean. You're not going to get a score from him. Maybe you get three catches. Maybe you get four five. It's what you need if that's what they once week. Yeah. I mean, but if marvins back what are you going to get from? I I don't have high expectations for him coming into that offense being third or fourth option. But maybe if carry on MRs Marvin MRs than it's love, you know, someone's got to catch the ball. Are you interested in Chris Conley seven for seventy four touchdowns last night? Sammy Watkins Sammy Watkins started because he made a bet somewhere that he could start the game. I mean, he was he was like limping own to the field to start the game. It was like, wait. Why are you playing like a contract incentive for game started? I'm not even joking. It was folder Cal Ripken. I mean, he's I play he looked like he was just lip limping up the sideline. And then he was gone. He played five snaps. So if you started him. Yeah. The thing is when grandma if he's reinjured the foot seven percents. I don't think he. Injured it because he was limping on on the way out to the field. They said he was limping in warm-ups. So it was like seven percent. Why are you? Why are you wasting an active roster? Spot on him is eight a bet. He bet Andy Reid. He's like watch this. Yeah. If if it turns it's anything serious if it comes out this week, and we won't know anything this week because they're on by. They don't have to put out there there injury status this week. So, unfortunately, you won't know. But but Chris Conley someone you need to monitor. If Watkins is out, you know, getting a piece of that offense as never never bad idea. All right. 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I can play video games for about fifteen years now, and as a father of three most of the time I by video games, and I put them in the put them in a box. And then I don't play. They stay protected like rookie baseball. That is exactly right. Just in case it become valuable. And I said I actually played this game. So that's the greatest praise that you could give thirty four year old man with children could play this game and forces way through to play it. So. Man that sounds like a sponsor sounds so much like launchers if it's not running backs. Let's talk about running back waiver pickups for me. It's just there's three guys I'm looking at and no one else. Really? Now, we'll get into the weeds with some deeper items and options for me. It's I'm looking at Gus Edwards, Elisa McGuire and Josh Adams, those are the three I'm looking at Edwards is on owned allies in Maguire's, basically, unknown was on by and then Josh Adams, Mike, you brought them up rising star yesterday. Thirty two percent owned. He he had. This. Snaps last week. Fifty eight percent of the carries. In a horrible misery of defeat. But how do you guys prioritize those three and does it depend on what you're looking for? I think of those I do like those three guys I would actually throw in. Jalen react Dard as as the fourth fourth option. Jalen proliferate that broke out. Okay. Jalen rashard? I would probably prioritize him over allies Maguire. But I get where you're coming from that they're pretty similar tier of of waiver wire pickup between gusts and Adams. It's really difficult because gusts Edwards looks like. An absolute Mack truck running the ball. He looks fantastic gets match of with the Oakland Raiders. Which is a thanksgiving delight for him. Not just Oakland. I mean, we've talked about Alex Collins coming scheduled. But if it if Gus does take this over sure Oakland Atlanta Kansas City, Tampa Bay. Bay. Yeah. That's nice. That's that's get in the playoffs. Win in the playoffs. Have a great time to me. Gus is my clear cut number one. Because maybe he's not involved. Maybe gusts Harbaugh actually have a ticket for the gusts bus. We don't know he might not the Gus bus might have flat tires, but Elijah McGuire. Jalen rashard? Those guys to me are like they're pinch flex options. That may be we'll be okay. But they don't have the chance in, you know, in my view to be the waiver wire pickups that win weeks that become flat out must start top fifteen type running backs Gus Edwards. If he ends up getting the work, especially if Lamar Jackson is there. I mean, they rushed the ball over seventy percent of their snaps that is so backwards in the NFL right now. And you know, he he looks good carrying the ball. And with that matchup. Gus is my clear cut like I would spend the number one waiver authority. I would burn on Gus at this point in the year. What else are you waiting for? Burn it on just to play him this week. I mean that would be the ultimate reason. Why I I the wilder that you have a team that has had what three must own back so far this season. I mean, there was a time. When divorce was the guy you grow grab. The Alex Collins is the guy you gotta start just waste for time. I go I was going to say and then Kenneth Kenneth Dixon too. So I I have my hesitation about the long term viability of gusts. He's definitely a player that could be a trap. Oh, certainly is Alex Collins could have three touchdowns next week against the Oakland. Because you know, Gus is the wind blew different direction. Gusts is not a luck to get the carries. He had this last week a could be a hot hand approach. But I brought this up on yesterday's show. Some of the quotes that were coming from Harbaugh about what he's been doing in practice, and it's time to reward him. And that they haven't had a guy like him. So far this year if Lamar Jackson continues as the starter, which I. Expect. I predict Gus has twenty cares. Yeah. In to speak to Josh Adams. It's the similar situation where coach Peterson of the eagles coming into the game said Josh Adams is going to get more work. And we hear that, you know, all the time this player yada, yada. They're so great in practice. And then they don't actually get on the field. He was put on the field and has a a string of decent match up. So Josh Adams. I think is a bit safer than gusts Edwards not a ton. But gusts in his match-ups would make him my number one running back any chance that if you need to start this week you'd sign THEO Riddick above Josh Adams play on thanksgiving. If I'm gonna full p PR, I still the whole only I I still don't fully trust that Josh Adams is going to be the guy. Now, I love the match up a whole lot more for Josh Adams. So I I I probably would still go Josh Adams, especially looking long term you. You've got, you know, carry on is only missing a week, then THEO is not going to be valuable after this week. So I gotta we missed two weeks. I would not put feel ahead of Josh Adams. But he's in the conversation and NPR league. He's you know, he'll have double digit targets this week with carry-on out in case you're curious about Aguirre blunt throw on the offense as last twenty one carries for Detroit have gone for a total of sixteen yards. That's that's a good free agent signing. I think I could do is you need players that make you think I could do that. Yes. He now this man was on by he's infinite he is all he's in a revenge game. Oh against the former team about Frank gore taken on the Indianapolis Colts. If you are desperate are you going with the infinite main? I mean, if you're death richer. All right. I mean gore gore and desperation though for years that's been the the the I don't think it's a big river. Engy? So of this guy might also be any way Royce Freeman zone at about half leaks. Frank gore or Royce Freeman I'll take gore. Yeah. I think I would is one more snaps. More carries, by the way. Did you see Jon Gruden say? Yes, that oh, Jalen Rashard might be the MVP of our team never change, John. I love you so much. And then he said he reminds me of Charlie garner, which I just laughed at because who makes those references anymore. Sean. On this literally time capsule stuff right there. It's like he he's like he wasn't announcing football for the last. It's just so crazy to me the Jon Gruden was Sean McVay. I mean, he was the young so young is young hot eighty four year. Coach that's like that was who Gruden was. And then he just never we all get old. He grew up fast, by the way. Probably a good time to pick up Malcolm Brown. Yes. Thank you cough. Watch the tug early owner what we've been harping on it for a few weeks, especially going into the bye who's gonna who. Other than the girly honors going to snake Malcolm Brown from you. Go get him right now. Spencer ware, Malcolm Brown geo Bernard. The big one those are really relying for some reason you're gonna say in the next year. I'll put awesome heckler rod Smith chase Edmunds. And then maybe Jalen Samuels. I don't know. I'm not I'm not as locked into that. Because you don't even Ridley we don't know that it would be Samuels. But those other guys you can feel pretty confident that if something happens to the starter, they will get a huge uptick an opportunity now, gentlemen. I couldn't find our dartboard. So do you guys still wanna talk tight ends? No now, if you're not if we can't throw some somehow we're in the tight end waiver show, Vance McDonald's, the MVP of this this particular segment because he's been a waiver wire tight and pick up for about eight weeks. I almost take them off the list now, though, he is because he's he's only finally own in the majority of leagues it's taken way too long for people to pick them up, but he is owned in sixty one percent of leagues it's probably even more than that considering you know, factoring in deadly leagues. If he's there certainly pick them up, but I agree with Andy. He's probably not. All right. So then the other guys I think came rate is really, yes. Interesting this week. And I guess we're you know, -brate should have the opportunity to himself and James Winstons the quarterback. Now, that's not a guarantee in fantasy football for anything. But you're talking about tight the tight end position where he players were frequently goose this past week, you're looking for some sort of guaranteed reception totals because it's maybe less about winning with your tight in and more about not losing with your title. Yes. So let me ask you this. Would you rather go after tight end like Herndon who you're going the jets the jets and you're hoping for a touchdown? You know, basically, would you rather have a guy who has a greater chance at a touchdown? But is not that involved in offense. Or would you rather have a guy like hire men who is involved? He's gonna get five plus targets he's both get shun out. But he might he's probably going to turn it into like twenty five yards. I between Herndon in higher men. I would go with Jeff Harmon might came braid is my top tight end. Yes. Pickup of the week. And behind him. I would. I would put Jeff Hier minute. Number two. Are you interested in Germany Smith after six for forty four? And he's scored the previous two we has been growing. The question for him is the health of the rest of the wide receiver core for the Tennessee titans. Because they've. And the quarterback. Oh, yeah. Lawn. Bombshell might start gabbert against the Houston. Texans. Here's a here's a conundrum for you. Let's say hypothetically your backup quarterback on your dining, this is going. Let's say the backup quarterback in your dynasty team. Was I don't know Alex Smith, and let's say you're starting quarterback is I don't know. Let's just say, Patrick, Mahomes, sure or Jared Goff or Jared Goff, whatever. And so you got the by week coming off, and and look Alex Smith, by the way, get well soon injury is the news report coming out is very bad spiral. Fracture broke through the skin compound fracture. Very very serious injury going to be very hard for him to come back in general, so get well soon. Alex Smith, would you rather start Blaine gabbert, no cold McCoy. Or Josh mccown who could very well start this week as well. I would go with coal. I think coal is actually capable and he will run the ball a little bit. So congressional actually cool that hypothetical situation. Obviously can't be. True. Disgust is it would be very depressing back to Jones Smith at tight in. He he's a guy that I I've always liked the talent. Like I remember last year thinking when Delaney walkers done Joe knew very much take over that spot for the titans. I don't like their quarterback situation Jonas Smith is on the field a lot, but he's a run blocker. He has not been used not been running enough routes. However, the matchup while it looks bad because it's a good defense in Houston. We've seen the last two teams really attack the defensive line pressure by throwing they hire men had what ten catches against them. Yes. You know, hire men had a great game. And then Jordan Reed number one tied in they have the week this Larry against Houston. So I think Jonas Smith in a bad situation. Eighty looked when he plays targets. I mean last week for Smith raised them up from that like, you know, one red zone target category. Hire men against Pitt or Joe new against Houston. As of right now. I. I don't believe that hire men will ever get near the red zone. So I'm gonna go Joan Joan and then talking about defenses this week. Dallas kinda shoots up the board against Washington. It's cold. I still think Cole McCoy is. Okay. I transition beat up on line. No pass catching weapons Dallas defense playing. Well, yeah. I'm I'm definitely interested in that between the between the Jacksonville. Buffalo matchup which side of the DST's. Do you want both? Yeah unite. Oh. But you saying you gotta pick would of course. Right. Yeah. Jackson aside. I mean, they they turn the Steelers over, and, you know, pretty much made a competitive, I guess they're pretty well owned. But so you the over one hundred over under in that game is thirty seven and a half points. Its lowest of the entire week the games in buffalo. So I I would start both defenses with with confidence. I mean. If buffalo can slow Leonard fournette down. I mean, it's kind of like what's going to happen? I would you know New England as well. Another good the town. We were all excited to see him because he's kind of been this. You know crazies, man, these myths school gunslinger, he just kinda sucked last week. It's like, maybe the, you know, this time is come. And so yeah, I don't think New England's going to be the get right game for mccown. If he plays fair enough. All right. Let's get into the quarterbacks. Full stream ahead. If New England somehow out there, they're good start against the jets. Yes. And Mr. mccown, so I was the first one into the show doc to pick my streamer, which means it's Jameis Winston he's widely available and he's playing against the San Francisco forty Niners. And as we talked about Tampa Bay quarterback equals quarterback two on the year. Jamie's it's frustrating to watch. He's gonna turn the ball over. But he's also likely to throw three hundred yards and a couple touchdowns now. Okay. Speaking of a couple touchdowns. My started the week is a guy who has been throwing a couple touchdowns in his last four games, which has been real change. Obviously for the Cleveland Browns. He's on pace for thirty six touchdowns and eight interceptions. That's bad statistical manipulation on a smart thing over four games. Yes. Over the four stretch. I mean, he's been throwing multiple touchdowns every week. He's got a great matchup this week against Cincinnati. Who? Has the thirty first best team against quarterbacks. You know, the the offense seems to be finally clicking. And I believe in Baker. I think he is an exceptional talent. Things are coming together. The matchup is right. I be absolutely fine streaming him. And he can still get it done with his legs as well. Some have called Jon Gruden not dependable as the head coach. But I tell you what's dependable that defense given up to or more touchdowns. The Oakland Raiders are given up to plus in seven straight games, including two Josh rose. Yeah. And the raiders really screwed the pooch last week losing to the cardinals go for the number one pick. Yeah. They beat the cardinals. Yes. Insert ravens quarterback here. I'm starting and streaming a ravens quarterback if Lamar Jackson's available. You'll play flag gotta grab. And if Joe flacco was back. Would you rather play? I guess you're you're saying you would play flacco. But Nick Mullins against Tampa Bay is also an intriguing. No, I'll take I'll take the Oakland music. I don't as as well as Nick Mullins started his career and he played pretty well last week. They're still just rookie variables that are are troublesome. Those games, you know, the more film. You get on a player the more. You see them struggle. Tampa Bay has a lot of film on ally. Manning. Well, sure didn't work out that that's different because allies, you know, he's an established quarterback, Nick, Mojo. He's establish sneak Molin manning is seen everything Nick Mullins has not seen everything says thrown at in a game. And and there's just more variability they've made statues out of ally. Manning by this point, and they even allow those statues on the field behind the tour back to be the quarterback. He's the first player in quarterback in history that will actually his. Bust will go into the hall of fame. But it will be it will be it will just he'll be there running. But you can't tell. Yeah. Yeah. Looks frozen. I got that. Let me ask you this. I was asked ass on the podcast last night too. Ally. Manning and Philip rivers. Are they hall of famers, Philip rivers? Philip rivers is to me. I am. I am a firm. No on both guys. Philip rivers is a hall. You say, yes. To Philip rivers. You have to say. Yes. Manning because because of the Super Bowl he's won two Super Bowl. Yeah. I I hate the Super Bowl arguments so much for quarterbacks to me, it still does make sense it. Multiple Super Bowls make sense. And I don't want you lion because he's not a hall of fame caliber quarterback. And that's why I don't want Philip rivers in those those guys will always be attached to each other because they right draft a trade. You know, there's there's I think if you take you lie manning, and you give he's got two Superbowls and he's got to Super Bowl MVP's. Right. And then the streak of consecutive games started which is hard to do in the NFL. If you take those things into account. He's hall of Famer, oh, he'll be in. I'm fully convinced allies deserves a hall of Famer. But no, he's not he's not even one of the best ten quarterbacks in the league. Even in his prime. Not not in his prime prime. Maybe he was eight. I don't know about that. Yeah. But is that hall of fame is like the six last I keep saying and you'll move him up. I mean, you've gone how tend to eight to six didn't you? To be hall of fame. Shouldn't you have to be like, I don't know top three in the league appoint? Well. Maybe maybe. Yeah. As I mean, there's drew Brees is he a hall of Famer never want an MVP award. Yes. He because he was never in his generation. He was never the number one. And he is a top three quarterback year in year out top three and fantasy in real life. Peyton Manning Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers they were all ahead of him during most of briefs career. So that. Yeah. Absolutely right now, Roy's your art. No. It doesn't. Oh. Your arguments in shambles. Shambles just how does having utilized. You literally are saying my argument. He is a top three quarterback. Literally right now knows top three quarterback of in life your top three for one season. You're I in the hall. I said you have to at least be a top three quarterback at some point. Like manning never had their drew Brees. It's been there multiple times. And certainly this year. Does does this matter guys both rivers and. I said that was going to the end of the sentence. Does this matter guys at all? Oh, there's that's you. Rivers and manning are both top eight in passing touchdowns passing yards. Yeah. All time. Yeah. I mean, he li- manning had forty four hundred yard thirty five touchdown season. I'm pretty sure that puts minute top five on the course of a season three's a hall of Famer. Yeah. I think so he will be three hundred fifty two career touchdown. If his last name were McLaughlin. Oh. Nepotism if McLaughlin had two SuperBowl in and to to. Well, let's pull the audience is to do that. Hey, Joe hulk in the studio on our today. Oh, you Joey gets a shoutout. Manning is the a hall of Famer Joe. Will be but. Okay. So does Joe is a smart guy? And he is completely echoing everything I say, but you can't hear him. So that's why we're telling you, he he's he's going to get in probably doesn't deserve it. However, I would love to be a poll question. Yes. Let's put this on our community tab on YouTube, baby. Josh take care of that. Yeah. If you haven't been involved, we got a rock and community option four options. It's either ally manning fail burgers, both or neither. Yep. Yeah. There you go. That'll be the poll check it out on the community tab on. Are you YouTube dot com slash the fantasy? You realize gentlemen, because I'm about to hit. This attribute new realized that the only thing that stands between us in a Meguid on episode is the soundtrack, but home, man, man. All righty. Hey, I'm ready to go draft dot com slash ballers studio. Sponsor we will see you tomorrow for the mega, Don. Thank you. For listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on joined the foot dot com and follow us on Twitter at the SF ballers.

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