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Ep 3 The Outlaw Josey Wales

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Ep 3 The Outlaw Josey Wales

"I loved that song Long. Welcome to send affiliate Lounge. I'm Scott Kilroy and I'm Pat O'Connell weren't you guys who like to talk about movies over a couple of drinks this week? We're talking about The Outlaw Josey Wales pack could you give the listeners a breakdown of the plot? Sure The Outlaw Josey Wales screenplay by Philip Kaufman and Sonya Turner's. Based on the book, The Rebel Outlaw Josey Wales by ASA or a quarter under the nom de plume of Forrest, Carter directed by Clint Eastwood and starring Chief Dan, George Bill McKinney John Verdin, Sam bottoms, Sondra Locke, Paula trueman dead. Will Sampson and Jolene, Kim's, Josey Wales. A Missouri. Farmer is driven to Revenge by the destruction of his home and the murder of his wife and young son by a band of plundering Union militancy from Kansas known as the red. Lex led by the Despicable and sadistic Captain Terrell. He winds up joining a band of Confederate Missouri Guerrilla fighters in Forge has a reputation as a legendarily fast and fearless gunfighter at the end of the war Josie's friend and Superior Captain Fletcher persuade his men to surrender. Having been promised by Union Senate James Lane that they will be granted amnesty, whales refuses to surrender and as a result, he and a wounded young recruit named Jamie or the only surviving witnesses to the Betrayal and not occur of the surrendering. Men by Senator Lane, and the Union Army in retaliation Josie, manages to use the Gatling gun to kill many of the soldiers and red legs in the camp before they escaped birth. Convinces Fletcher to assist Captain Terrell and his men and catching and killing whales and puts a $5,000 bounty on his head. Now, officially An Outlaw Josey is doggedly pursued by the Union, Army and bounty hunters as he tries to flee the Texas, despite his desire to never get too close to anyone ever again, he winds up saving and reluctantly adopting, a new family base ragtag, outcasts, and underdogs along the way. They include an Old Cherokee man named loan body. A young Navajo woman named little Moonlight, a mangy Redbone hound. A cantankerous old woman from Kansas named granny, Sarah and her granddaughter loreley in the film's finale. The redlegs launch a surprise attack on the ranch left, the granny, Sarah by her deceased son that the outcasts of May in new home. In Wales has a final bloody Showdown with their leader, Captain Terrell to avenge his family. Now that, that long summary is done, before we start actually talk about the movie Scott, you want table Talk about what we're drinking in a. Yeah sure I'm sure could Knob Creek tonight. It's a hundred. Proof bourbon first. It had an age statement. Then they removed it and now they put it back so it's nine years old and it's really good. Let me give you a little sniff and a taste. I'll tell you what I think. I get a little vanilla and a very little hint to Cherry, but what I really get on this is brown sugar. It's a sugar bomb. It almost tastes a little bit like oatmeal cookies in a way. So believe it or not. Anyway, what are you drinking? See, I today I have chosen. We brought her up once before, Buffalo Trace Kentucky, Straight Bourbon whiskey. I don't see a beer on it, but I was just looking it up and I think it's supposed to be for seven or eight years but there is no gear on the bottle. So so color, I guess it's kind of an amber color light amber color was it knows I'm getting a vanilla Yeah, and maybe a little bit honey. So now I'm going to dive in and actually gulp this thing it's sweet but it is mellow. It's kind of got a wage a toughie kind of flavor palette. I think I'm getting getting that very spicy. I'm getting maybe like Okie or also like a brown sugar kind of finish. I'm looking at so far. All right. Excellent choice. Well, thank you. I haven't had this one and we think we brought it up and the previous, or maybe even our first podcast. So I've had it in the back of my mind. I'm trying to think it was trying to find something thematically for this film. And apparently Missouri now has its own brand of bourbon, or there's a forgetting, the official you're better at the name is Key & Bourbon talk than I am now. But yeah. So basically, a fish, there is a apparently officially, there is a just like, there's Kentucky bourbon. And there is now Missouri whiskey or bourbon. What its own way. At a rule. So I was trying to find something, couldn't find anything locally that actually came from there, and it was then I was trying to, it took me a while, but I figured out what, what their Whiskey Drinking in the film. Oh, really. And it's middle of the film where he brings whiskey into the Lost Lady Saloon. I caught that he called, Comanche or comanchero brand. It's just red-eye whiskey and down. There is a red-eye whiskey. And apparently, this red-eye whiskey is made from in Kansas which is the other state in this movie house, that's great. Couldn't find out locally either. So I've never heard about that dress. Wow. Yeah, I was looking for high West cuz it's made in Utah. I thought, you know, it's, it's out, west, that kind of covers it. I couldn't find it though. That's, that's really interesting that they used a real Burbank, huh? Well, I don't know if it's a, if it's a real bourbon or I don't know the timeline or if it's mere coincidence. I'm not sure. All right, that's something we have to look up. What were you drinking? When you watch the movie? I was drinking off. Creek, for the most part, I've been really hanging on to this bottle. By the way, I gotta say. It has the most frustrating bottle to open of any liquor, ever drank wage a little tab flies right off and I had to get pliers. It's a nightmare own everything so that that, cuz it's kind of like Maker's Mark where they have wax when I bought the Buffalo Trace, I saw the Knob Creek, and I was like, oh, now Creek, it's a hundred proof was like, oh, Scott's getting that but it looked at it was like that looks like a thick rubber topper. Yeah. It's it's, I guess it's a wax but feels like hard rubber. I don't know. It's it's weird. But I was drinking this for the movie and enjoying it a lot. I think this is going to become a regular my house. How about you, what were you drinking wage? I was finishing off the Wild Turkey 101 because I distinctly, I know that I drank Wild Turkey 101, when I would watch my Outlaw Josey Wales LaserDisc back in New Jersey. So total just like, let's just do it, let's just do it. Let's go back to the 90s LaserDisc Wild Turkey 101, falling asleep, watching the movie by the end nights. All right, so, should we just jump into the movie? Oh yeah. I mean this, you know, this is I got to tell you, this one's a tough one, because I think we both love this movie so much, and I've such a history of watching this movie. So much history with this movie and watch it for the podcast. I just, I have more notes than that. We could possibly ever get to all right? That's great. I love this movie, too. I haven't seen it in a couple of years and I'm from, literally, the start of it. I was like, oh, I remember why I love this movie. Again, it just starts out, great. The little interactions with Clint Eastwood in the sun. I mean, they're on screen for maybe 30 seconds. Survey, you see, there's a bond between the two of them and I just it just opens up the whole movie to me, you know, I agree. I one of the things, one of the notes I had to discuss was how how this film this. This one is a dead. But fifth film that he directed and it's the second Western he directed the previous Western. He he directed was High Plains Drifter 1973 and it's a very different film. Yeah. Ah know if you remember that one that well, but it's a much darker. You know. This movie deals with dark things and and obviously, but it High, Plains Drifter is different where he just kind of appears much much like his other wage westerns where he just appears in a town. You don't really have a sense of where it came from. You kind of have a, maybe have a sense of what happened to him and he's just this almost Supernatural Force, it's very different kind of film than this, which is realistic. But as you said this starts off and here is, he's he's a farmer and he's, he has a family and, you know, where he comes from and he's, and he's, he's being a, he's just being a dad, just being a normal guy is not the typical. Like, man with no name, spaghetti, western badass, the beginning of this movie. He's just a regular dude. I'd want to get to rail, but when you brought up his son, I thought there was. I agree wage. That's great. But one of the things I realized watching the film this time around that's his real son Kyle. Eastwood. Oh really well. Yeah. That's his real son and no idea. It's six years old. The thing that's weird is he does not give his own son Credit in the film, he's uncredited. Well as much as I love Clint Eastwood and as a filmmaker and as an actor I think he's a great guy off but when I dive into his personal life a little bit, I've always liked. Yeah, I don't know about this. He's fathered a lot of children with a lot of different women. He's Clint Eastwood I mean, it's a good-looking guy, I don't know, it's just funny. I read I read an interview with him where someone asked him about wage that and he said, I don't know what to tell you. I just like kids and I'm like, no, you just don't like wearing rubbers. Like, well, the good part in this is that he can afford them. Yeah, wage. True. So it'd be a little more irresponsible if he was just a regular dude, but he's fucking Clint Eastwood so, you know, fair enough. But I do wrong and let's get back to what you were saying that the beginning of the film. And with his son, I just liked the fact that it didn't take a lot of talk. A lot of movies, I think would have wasted a lot of time. There were you don't really need them to you, just need to show that they have a relationship. They, they, they don't even really talk, they just kind of look at each other and you could tell that there's a bond there and then to see the literally seconds, later the kids dead. You feel like your guts, you know, pulled out of you just on that and it kind of explains why he becomes the character he becomes. Yeah definitely I as I said he does things in this film that he thought he did in later films but for the time in nineteen Seventy-Six you weren't used to seeing Clint Eastwood crying or almost crying being emotional, Being Human not just a super badass. 24/7, like he is in the other films and this this is he's ineffectual at the beginning. Like you feel firm. It's like he he gets knocked out. I mean seeing this as a father. It's it's it's even more tragic. If I didn't have a chance to be like, oh, that that's fucked up. But when you have a kid, you're like, oh my God, if I was in a situation, the fact that he could continue after that, is it says a lot about the, the man's character dead. I agree. And I think that's, that's an interesting point as a, as a parent, definitely struck me different than I think when I was in my twenties and I first saw this and I like you, I was just like damn that's fucked up and left, just that. But you see it through an older person's eyes a little bit and not that much older. But a little bit older, you know? Like yeah, that would have killed me, you know, you witnessed my kids and my wife wage child and my wife died and may not being able to do anything about it. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I just wanted to say, I meant to say this earlier, but this movie particular film, we've wage. The first two films we did we happen to hit upon anniversaries and this one is no exception. In fact, there was anniversaries all around on on this one. Okay. This the game was released 1976 which was the bicentennial, the 200th anniversary of America. This movie came out. This came out 1976. So this year, would we don't do it. Exactly. Cuz filling came out, June 30th but this year will Mark the 45th anniversary of the release of this film. And this film, also marks it very special or personal anniversary for me. Because it is the 25th. Anniversary of me actually meeting one of my childhood Heroes and all time. Favorite actors slash directors, Clint Eastwood where this happened, I was working at st. Marys, I said time and I just happened by chance to see in the newspaper a small ad that Clint Eastwood and Richard schickel were going to be doing a good job. Renee sponsored by the 92nd Street Y at the congregation rodeph sholom, which is a synagogue on 7 West 83rd Street. They were doing it for his biography on Clint, Eastwood wage to beg to get time off from work and ran down there. I had a very long stressful time trying to get a ticket cuz I wasn't a member and I had to wait until the end to see if there were tickets available. I did page on Wednesday at 8 p.m. November 13th, nineteen ninety six. So he did this Q&A, it was amazing. By the way, as a side, when I was sitting there and I was literally at the edge of my seat. Like, I can't believe the stuff that's coming out of Clint Eastwood's mouth. This is so great. And I looked around me and there was like a dude reading like a magazine and people happy, like I almost didn't get in here and you guys are like the don't even like I don't know if they expected him to re-enact scenes of his films. I don't know. They were it was a bizarre crap. Anyway, at the end of, at the end of this month, Some Q&A. They said they were gonna have a book signing and so I was excited, I'm like Sherman, and I brought eight by tens with me. I was like, I gotta have Outlaw Josey Wales photo. I gotta have a man, with no name phone book, a dirty hair. So I'm waiting on line at some point. I wasn't the only person had this idea. So they started going up and down as like, only the book will be signed. Nothing else. You can hear the crowd just, oh, man. Okay, whatever channel nine have my book and Richard schickel signs, finally, and then I finally get up to the man, the myth, the legend himself in front of him, and I can't contain myself. I'm a total fucking fan boy. And I just, I didn't lose my shit, but obviously, like I was, I was like, I couldn't just how to say, how he's one of my all-time favorites actors and directors. And I said, I just think that you're one of the coolest, guys, on the planet. He looked up at a smiling. His whole planet, huh, like? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could you, please make this out to a club? And as soon as I said, could you please make this out to the people that, you know, running the, the show and the signing whatever? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no personalizations, there's no time. And there's, you know, like all right. Okay. I just kind of resigned myself. I'm like, and I was about to, like, go get the really, okay? And I was waiting for, I was going to grab the book I stopped and just just thinking about, this gives me goosebumps. He gave me dead in the eye clinic and he said, like he he just like it wouldn't shut up and he said, what's your name? Son, get the fuck out of here. Like I was just like I just like could I could shat my pants with joy. I was like Clint Eastwood fucking Clint. Eastwood just said what's your name son to me personally I said Pat he and I was like holy fucking shit. He did it and it was, it was great. There's interaction and it was just odd. Made. I'm sure there's more. But so that was, that was the thing. The fact that I had Clint Eastwood actually say that to me. It was just today and have it on like a cell phone, whatever, but this is 1996. So it's all recorded in my own memory. Oh, that's awesome. That is so awesome. I love that story. What, thank you, but the movie separate of that the movie was a critical and Commercial Success. It has a 90% freshness, rating and 92% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes and a 7.8 out of 10 on IMDb. So, we're not the only ones who think that'd be is great, because it's black and gray. But when, when do you remember, where? And when you first saw the film, I don't remember exactly. I, I probably saw a bit of it on t v because I have a recollection of seeing certain scenes, and it must have been on, on T at some point. I must have seen some of it but then I remembered I rented it because I was like that look really cool off. See the rest of this, so, I don't know, sometime in the eighties, probably on VHS on a crappy copy, that my local video store had, but it was, I mean, even not letterboxed and I'm seeing it in TV, skip TV. You were still great-looking movie. I mean, the cinematography honest is fantastic. Yeah. Bruce surtees, did he did many films with Clint Eastwood malpaso? It's very good. I also my recollection, I definitely the first time I saw this movie was on network television as well. Probably around the same time, you did I know that back in the day before? My family got a PCR. That that's the only way you either went to the movie theater or you waited for network television before cable and VHS. So, that's what we did. I remember, I remember distinctly, I would get expected to get the actual physical TV Guide every week cuz I could go through it. And look to see what movies might be playing on what day, but Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson. They were an O'Connell, family, staple and faith. So any time a movie starring them came out, the entire family would watch it. I mean, my sister was very little, she doesn't remember that, but definitely my mother and my father would be huge fans. So I've never seen this movie on a big screen and that hopefully, that will be remedied at some point in my life, because I would really love to see this movie on the big screen. Oh yeah. So and I, that's funny. You mention that because I had a kind of opposite situation age, we didn't have it VCR for very long time. We were very late to the VCR game, but my mother hated me, watching anything violent on t v. And so luckily, she didn't pay attention a lot to what I was watching on TV. So I would watch stuff and then she would come in the room and be like, what is this? And she would literally just shut the T off and be like, you're not watching this, and I'm like, God, but but but, you know, it was Death Wish and, you know, Charles Bronson is, you know? And so that was a big thing with me. So when we got the New Jersey, Our then I was able to just stay up late because my mother was a really like kind of early. Riser, early early to bed, early to rise. And I just have to wait till like 9 9:30 and should be out. And I would like, all right now, I'm putting in whatever y'all put it, in Clockwork, Orange, that's awesome. So good one thing I wanted to mention, not to jump all over the place but just I think he can't talk about this movie without at least a talking about the fact that the author of the book it was based on. Oh, yeah. Was pretty much out of his mind. Yeah, ASA Earl Carter, was his real name and I have the controversial author, is what I wrote in my notes. Why was he controversial? And the next sentence is such an understatement of of why, here's a pro segregate. Segregation assist leader in the KKK, he wrote this book under the name. Forrest Carter, who he claimed was a Cherokee, right? All of this came out after the movie was made from what I understand wage. Yeah. And they were like Warner Brothers and Clint Eastwood and the producers and everyone was like holy shit. We got a distance ourselves from this guy majorly just however that wage. Yeah. Not only was he a member of the KKK? I think I read somewhere that he was in a especially radical member of the segment. I don't know how more radical you can be hooked up to the word I was looking for but also was the speechwriter for George Wallace. Yep. And he's the one that wrote the famous line of his speech segregation now segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. Yeah, not a good guy anti-semite as well. So what's very insane is that this person wrote them all Source novel, which inspired this really beautiful magnificent film. The messages in the film are antithetical to everything that that man, apparently stood for in real life. It's just it's dead. Absolutely bizarre. And I read a portion chapter eleven of the Clint Eastwood a biography by Richard schickel that I bought. And on the day, the my page, twenty-five years ago, great book, by the way, you read it. Yeah, I read it. I couldn't put it down, fantastic, it's so chock-full of information. I reread chapter eleven labor of love which was recounting of the time of him filming and doing Outlaw, Josey, Wales. And I came across who's such a psychopath. The movie was it was a blind submission. He put in this book, the web page fails, Robert daily, the producer picked it up one day cuz he had nothing to read for dinner. Read it to this book has so much soul to it. How you should look at it, they buy it, they pay him. $25,000 up from $10,000 for when production starts and promise more later, and the thing that struck me is, so, he calls Robert daily up and says, hey, I'm going to be you guys neighborhood. I was wondering if you know, if I mean, wage, And rubber daily goes on, to talk about the book that in the neighborhood meant, he was going to Texas, and they're in California. Like so this guy's just out of his mind. It's it's yeah. Okay, sure. He loves going to he doesn't show up on the plane when they send their guy to meet him cuz he's got drunk, get thrown in jail, he comes the next day, the guy picks him up, he's pissed drunk, he takes, they go to a bar, he goes to call Robert day long. And he almost gets arrested again, because as a Carter, is pissing in the middle of the bar, and, like, he tells a police, this is my father, I'm sorry, I'll take care of it, they took him away, he sees Robert daily. The next day is dressed all in cowboy regalia. He starts his conversation with I think I've taken enough of your time. I'm going to head on home and Robert Dennison quick. What we didn't get to talk about like the books or anything. So he convinces him to stay another day and he sets up a dinner, that he couldn't attend for whatever reason. And as the power when I get to the same guy that they had The Bodyguard guy drives That they had pick them up from the airport, goes with two secretaries from El Paso, and they go to dinner, where they have a dinner date. He shows up at the dinner date, pissed drunk, and apparently, at some point, during the dick, he takes out a knife and holds it to one of the secretaries throats and says that he's in love with her and that he'll kill him and her both. If she doesn't agree to marry him, oh my God. I totally forgot about that. I was like what? So that's before they even got to the anti-Semitism the KKK the name Wallace speech. So absolute nut job. Yeah. I, you know, as you were saying it, it registered in my head like I'm like, oh yeah, I remember reading about this. I totally forgot about Nazi was, that's hilarious, but he turned out this novel that inspired. Once again this beautiful film that we're speaking about today, The Outlaw Josey Wales. Yeah, let's talk about the film rather than the wage. The The Nutty author. Yes. So, a couple of things I wanted to mention was Chief. Dan George, who plays loan? Wati Wati? Yep. I read an interview with him where he claims and I don't, I think this is debatable, but I thought it was an interesting thing that he claimed any way that this was the first time, a Native American was allowed to have a sense of humor, in a western I in my notes. I served had that what makes this film different than previous westerns is that the representation of Native Americans not only are they anti cliche? They're not just stoic in silent or childlike Faith or total Savages their three-dimensional human beings with humor which I don't recall. I don't recall seeing anything. Yeah, I mean it was, you know, it was a statement that seemed it seemed so kind of grandiose those like, that can't be true but then I I couldn't think of any example to say. No he's wrong. I mean, he could be right. Yeah, I'd looked. I couldn't find. Anything that would if there was a comedy before that, I'm sure that. If the comedy came from an Indian character, it was probably played by an Italian or a white actor or wage, not a Native American. So I'm inclined to believe that without even researching it, okay? I thought his character was great. I thought his acting was really good and I, I really just he was seeing, like, a guy I wanted to spend more time with, you know what I mean? Oh, he's fantastic. I mean, Clint Eastwood, obviously, loved him to death. I think you watched the same documentary. I did. Hell hath. No, fury, that's on the DVD, okay? Yeah. And he goes back a little bit in the book by Richard schickel that chapter. It said something that I didn't remember he claims that when he first met Chief Dan George he was completely dressed in a Subaru. Like he had white suit, white shirt, white tight, like he was, this is completely dressed and white and he apparently had some Swedish chick companion with him. That was like taller than him and birth. During the filming of the, the movie, there are a couple of days where it was obvious, where he was seventy-seven at that point. So, he's running around with some Swedish Jack, and doing this movie off and apparently, like, going out with her nights and like dancing, like the man was amazing. Yeah, I just want to mention if anybody listening to this wants to just have a good time and just read about something kind of cool. Look up Chief Dan George just do a Google search on them. You'll find some really interesting stuff. Absolutely cool. He's he's he damn near Steeles, he pretty much steals the picture. Yeah, he's just great. I mean, with the whole cast is pretty good and I got to something that Sandra Locke. Not, I'm not the biggest fan of kind of accepted that she was a package deal with Clint. When Clint Eastwood movie more often than not, she was going to pop up in it. And that's okay. I thought she was very good in this. Yeah, I mean, I think this was her second film. I'm forgetting the name of the first film, but I thought she was at that, she was quite good. She was well-cast wage. Fit with the character was supposed to be. I think once again there's so many notes in it, so many things to talk about this film and the pre-production and production of this film is equally as fascinating and compelling as Thursday, fantastic film itself filled Kaufman was supposed to. He wrote this screen co-wrote, the screenplay, he he's the one who added the fact that Sonia cherniss, just she adapted the book. And in the book, The Girl legs are not in throughout the entire story. And one of the things that that Kaufman did was he made the pursuit by the redlegs go throughout the entire film. That keep up the suspense and drama and reached gratifying inclusion. But she was also supposed to direct the film. He did, he scouted locations? He did all the pre-production and then apparently, and the reason why I bring this up is apparently in my truck. Read the chapter in the book you just moving too slow for Clint's Comfort level because Clint he put up the money to for the book rights himself and he was the producer and he just thought he was just taking too long and they were yep. Set up a shot for, I think the command she would Josie coming up, on the Comanche, raid on the Kansas, the grandma and Granny, Sarah and Laura, Lee and Joe Theismann. Apparently, he called a captain queeg incident where he was obsessed with. He wanted to put the camera certain place and he had he had left a container of beer can on the location for where he wanted and it with wind or whatever it is. Cheering and heat, is obsessed with finding the Exmark they had left and clenched his shot. The scene himself and decided like this guy's gotta go something else. I read something else and it kind of leads to that. Also May both Philip Kaufman and Clint with kind of buying for Sondra Locke's. Affections. I wrote about that too. I was like, oh that's interesting. Obviously Clinton one that won. He won that one, black one that but he had to pay for. He literally had to pay for it because there's now something the Directors Guild of America. He got fined $60,000 for doing this and now there's the Eastward Claus or something, right? Where you left off. You're working on a film, you can't fire the director and then take over, right? Yeah, that's what. That's what it says and I got to say, how cool is that? You have a clause like you have a rule, isn't it in the Directors? Guild about something. You did specifically, don't fucking pull, in Eastwood. Pull it fucking East with the Eastwood Claus. So good. So funny. Yeah, I read a little bit about that to really interesting. It sounds like they just were not going to see eye-to-eye on how the film was going to be made. The other proof is Clint did a great job, the film looks great, it's edited. Well, it's got good acting in it. Tyrell comes off as just a bulb. Such an amazing jackass. That I don't think anyone in the world, was siding with him on this was supposed to be, there were a couple of things. I did want to bring up that I thought Really interesting if you talk about meeting, Clint Eastwood and getting to say what, you know you wanted to say to him and that's awesome. I'm going to admit something, I'm going to put myself on the line here. I've imagined meeting Clinton wage myself. Oh, you imagine meeting him. Yes. I've imagined what I've wanted to say to him, and what it basically comes down to is I think the Outlaw Josey, Wales and Unforgiven people will be watching these two films and a thousand years from now. Know agreed. Oh, I agree. They're very, they're very connected and I think it's in the documentary wear cleats. It says that he feels, he feels like it's one of the best things he's ever done. And he said that if it had been released at the time that Unforgiven had been released, he thought that it would receive just the same amount of attention and accolades. I don't doubt that for a second. I mean I also found it really interesting that you have Jamie woolvett as the Schofield kid and Unforgiven and he looks like Sam bottoms. Oh yeah, Wells, Josey Wales. I mean, he looks like the same, right? I mean, they even have similar mannerisms. It's what I saw. And forgiving for the first time, it actually freaked me out because I was like that guy's gotta be old. Now that's, you know, I hadn't thought about that but you're, you're absolutely right. Yeah. I I thought it was Sam bottoms is to say, I thought it was the same actor dead. And I couldn't understand why he didn't age like the rest of us. Well, unfortunately, I don't think you got the age that much at all. I think. Sam bottoms left us quite early. I think you're right. Yeah, he did. And he was anything that I saw him and he was really good. Yeah, I and I mean, he just, he has that line. And he just says, we have him again. Jit Josie. And Josie know. It's what the again, didn't with Josie or something. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Getting do with Josie. This movie is so chock-full of memorable lines and infinitely re quotable lines. There are some lines in there that have a dog. Really become part of my everyday. Lexicon. And I use when the senator is telling Fletcher that oh, you know, the old adage of To the victor goes the spoils and Fletcher sisters and the wrong things that are don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Well, I want to talk about this scene. Kind of two thirds into the movie, a little later, the saloon scene but that has the great line of Diane's. Not much of a Livin boy. Yeah, go to get to pull them pistols or whistle Dixie. I can't say, Dixie for some reason. No, actually filled with amazing unbelievable quotes. The other thing I noticed, going back to Unforgiven. They have a couple of scenes that are almost identical. You have the target practice seen after Josey Wales, a family is killed and he's trying to fire the gun and and hit. Oh, that's right. And it's almost looks shot-for-shot. Very similar to Unforgiven except for Unforgiven. It's kind of played for Laughs. Where in Outlaw Josey Wales. It's it's dead serious. I mean he he just he's Mississippi. And he needs to be accurate. That's, that's a great Point. That's a great idea, you know, and think of that you're right, I feel like in Unforgiven it is played for Laughs. In Jersey Wales. It's faith is important to show that. I mean, he literally the, the redlegs, they they come, they attack the house. I know we're a little bit all over the place non-linear here, but when you're saying what we're talking at the very beginning of this, it's on faith. How create the interaction is and seconds later? He's dead. He's dead because the red legs and Captain Terrell have attacked his home and burned his house down and killed. His wife played by Cissy Wellman the dog, her of famous director, William Wellman and literally in the ashes of his life Like a Phoenix Rising From the Ashes. He goes through and he finds his Colt 1860 Army cold. I love how everyone is armed to the teeth and this movie. It's not like, just like, I've just, I have one leg side holster. Like people have guns everywhere, which is like an great, cuz if I was living in that time, I'd be fucking armed to the teeth. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Josey Wales has the I counted I think for guns on them easily, maybe more. Ya know, he has four guns, he has. He has the eighteen sixty Army Army revolver that he takes From the Ashes and practices with his his double holster with those. Those those guns are fucking huge. They're like, right because my back and forearm and those are too cold Walker 1847. Those things are fucking gigantic and then he has one shoulder holster which I think is fucking great. He is a bolt 18-49 Pocket Gun. The other thing has is a Sharps 1865 sniper rifle with full-length brass tube Target scope, which is what he uses to shoot the very life to give the Rednecks in Missouri boat ride. But in any case that scene when he's doing that in Elgin, see, whales the editing sets up. Something that is the motivating factor in his important throughout the entire film wage. There's a sequence where he's shooting and there's a shot of, you know, close up of him shooting. Then a shot of his destroyed home. Then a closer shot of him, shooting a shot of the Grave where he put his wife, and, and Son him shooting, and then a shot of what the the field mule who's now alone and left the fields left, because Josie Wales is no longer a farmer. He's become something else and it's encapsulate. The trauma that motivates his actions throughout the entire film and its inability to really kind of totally settle in and reintegrate himself fully with Society because of that one incident. He's a damaged man from that and and and it's a brilliant encapsulated in in the edits in that sequence, which is serious and used for Laughs in a kind of part in Unforgiven. Yeah, that's a great point. I mean, I think it's hard. I think sometimes it's harder to talk about a movie you loved because there's so many little things that pop. Your head that you're like I want to talk about this. I want to talk about that and I think that's why we're a little all over the place tonight. I agree. And and I have to ask there was a part of me that was I was nervous about it because this movie is so important to me. There are other movies that are, you know, just as important but this one's like really was like really special know the things that I love 12, Monkeys, whatever. But this one was a little bit harder because Twelve Monkeys, I thought as an adult. I I've lived and loved The Outlaw Josey Wales. Since I was a you know, knee high to a June bug. So it's just as history and there's this sense of obligation to the film. Oh yeah, to me, Ella Jersey. Wells is one of those movies, that's just perfect because it works just as popular entertainment. You could go watch this on a superficial level may have a great time if you're not looking for anything deep or meaningful in it, it's still a fun movie. But if you do look a little deeper and you'll try to pick out themes that are in it, it works on that level too. Oh yeah, this this move. Is so rich in its themes and symbolism Josey Wales at the beginning of the film. Captain Terrell, the thing that knocks him out. He gets, he gets hit in the head pretty hard as he's trying to get to, to the house and not hearing his son. Kyle like paw paw, you know, saved me parties in the fire and he's trying to get to him, gets knocked in the head and then Terrell slices him on the face with his saber. And that's a scar that she carries throughout the film. And it's a discard it's like in most, in many movies, the physical scars are symbolic of emotional ones. So, Josie's scars, symbolic of his emotional scarring for what happened to his family, and it's also mirrored in little Moonlight because when you see her at the trading post and the two guys who to two guys who figure out that it's Josie, Wales wage to ask about a horse and get them. They mention like oh she has a she has a scar knows that mean she's she likes the, the Young Bucks or whatever. And so she this notion of of a of scars Emotional scars being represented by physical ones or happened in the film Often by the way, just off-the-cuff great mention. So John Mitchum Robert Mitchum's brother is one of those guys that are in the Trading Post is like, this, is he home? Is it the one that are all scared about Josey? Wales is the chain blue Lightning himself. That's it seems brother and he's with him. A lot of the people in this film are guys who will see in many other malpaso and Clint Eastwood films, because he plays a recurring character in Dirty Harry. Oh, really? Yeah, he's in three of the Dirty Harry films as a detective off Kenny's and plenty of other Clint Eastwood films. And and so, is the guy who plays the carpetbagger. Oh, that guy, we should talk about that guy was special, they're all great month, Woodrow, parfrey plays the carpetbagger, he's fantastic. I think he plays the he's a lot of seventies movies and sixties movies. I think he's the guy that in Dirty, Harry Dirty, Harry goes dead. To the the diner. And he's like, I usually, do you want your usual, lunch or usual? Dinner is like, what does it matter is the same and it goes to get in the hot dog. Same guy. Oh, really? Yeah, that's an actor. I didn't really have thought I didn't have anything to amazing to say about it. I just thought he was a great character and just the fact that he's trying to sell Josey Wales on a miracle. Cure-all, tonic and that scene where he spits on Vegas, hasn't found cleaning. Yes, that bit is hilarious when Josie splits his dip into back on him. You know, we should talk about the importance of the choice of tobacco use in this film. One of many things about this film is that Clint Eastwood known for man with no name where he smoked his cigar? And so cigars were a staple. And in this film he did something very different which I don't think he ever replicated. We're Josey Wales isn't to charge chewing tobacco and many scenes of Josie spitting. Tobacco juice, Clint Eastwood says, for for this film speed Is a political and social statement, it's in the face of death and life cuz he's angry when he talks about spitting. The thing I was also fascinated with is along with me, trying to research the guns, the very end the credit off of the Hell, hath, no fury, documentary Eastwood reveals, the choice of chewing tobacco brands that he used. Depending on the kind of scene that there would be shooting at that day. So he said that the brand day's work log in to Bacco was the toughest in the world for rough scenes. With only one take, you took this one used Redman, if you needed multiple tags. Okay. And if you had a scene, you knew you needed politics and I host, and you stick with a nut, I did read somewhere that he hated chewing tobacco. Well, let's not have been good if you swallow it by mistake I can't imagine neither can I but Clint is as much a badass with chewing tobacco as he was with the charity cigar and Man With No Name. By the way there's another character who's also a badass who smokes a pipe makes me think of a good granny Hawkins. Who's the fucking shit wage? Grady Hawkins is so great in this movie. Oh yeah, he would take it. You want to talk about her first? Well, no will say so they arrive at that part of the time. We're trying to talk about because the senator betrayed, the guys who went in Iraq and killed them, Jamie, gets shot in the back, trying to warn Fletcher, Fletcher, to trap, he gets shot. And then, he tells Josie that Fletcher was in on it because Josie was a guy with a death. Wish he was like God, like he was going to stay there and just shoot him until he was killed because Jamie said, you can't get him. I was like, that's a fact. He's like, what are you doing it for his, it got nothing better to do, but he tells him at Fletcher was in on it? That's when Josey Wales. Like, okay. They they split. They wound up at the the granny Hawkins place and they're going to pay Sim Carstairs who is the ferryman and he's with the carpetbagger who has the major issue best major best secret Elixir that throughout the entire film. He tells you you know snake oil that gets rid of all this shit and she gets stuff from Kenny Hawkins his awesome. So if you can pay me when you see, yep. Enjoys the wheels. And when they're Crossing river, the carpetbagger is trying to say, hey, is the best thing for your friend and as you were saying, he's the car bagatelles, the most bushings wearing that white suit and Josey Wales like wage. It's on them and says, how is it would stain? I bring this all up again to Circle back and elaborate on the importance of having Josie Chew Tobacco. Instead of smoking, it spinning is not, merely use for comedy in his son although very well in that respect, it is a motif that is used for symbolism and characterization as well. Elias Josey Wales spit on everything like Fallen opponents when he kills the bounty hunters will spin on their head but he'll he'll spin on bugs or scorpions that red red bone mangy Hound. He spits on the head all the time or anyone. That's, you know Annoying. He spits of hypocrisy off the cheating carpetbagger, the spinning is great. It's also like a nervous tick right before he's going to go into battle. He'll spit. But, you know, the thing with the dog is amazing because the dog didn't do anything, but he's so damaged bitter. He just he hates em. And best friend because man at that point even Seasons like a fucking he spits on him and it's great. But talking about the carpetbagger. Remind me of another recurring theme in the movie where there's always north versus South Old adages or old saying. So the center says victor goes the spoils and Fletcher's. Like don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining the carpetbagger once they get across the river. And he sees that the red legs are right across the river and the ferryman's like, oh, I'm going to try and make like some I'll make do something's wrong and try to give them time and like, oh, he's not going to hold off, you know, right. He's going to tell the authorities and the carpetbagger who's now you may think is the greatest part the major, but secretly sure to try to wash out the fucking tobacco stained that Josey. Wales has put on his white carpet bagger jacket and he's like, oh, there's no way you could take out all those men for, they gave it to you. There is such a thing in this country known as Justice and oh so do you really think you can shoot all these men before they shoot you. Oh no mr. Josey Wales. There is such a thing and it's actually called Justice and Josey Wales like well mister carpetbagger. Had something this Terry Territory called the Missouri boat ride and then he shoots the line with the sniper rifle that I was talking about. It's great stuff. I was going to say I love the fact that he later in the movie. He shows up again and outs Josey Wales to that town and it's like, oh God, someone just shoot this guy. I just want to see him dead on the, on the floor. Yeah. He's he's complete asshole. He's completely unlikeable. Typical of the type races would be selling the major best secret elixir in that in the town and sees loan wat. He's like oh, you're an Indian. Well, you must have trouble holding your liquor. That's the best thing, right? Yeah, those guys are all great and the movie, The Crypt is so tight because there are a lot of things that are brought up like the carpetbagger and there's a call back to it. Things come full circle you kind of get a call or bounce two things where something happens and then you get some, the flip side of it later in the film. It's very evenly balanced in that way. Oh no doubt. Yeah, absolutely. The other thing I was going to mention I meant to mention this month. Talking on Unforgiven. I'm just going to bring it up now, though. Both movies have the question to Clint Eastwood's character. Who did you know was going to shoot first. Oh wow. So you my friend with all these awesome parallels, I did not catch that after seeing Unforgiven and all this time, going past stuff like that. Just I totally jumped up. I was like, wait a second. There's gotta be something behind that. Yeah, and it, it's loan walkie who who asked him who, how did you know, who was? Cuz she first and Josey. Wales has a really good answer to that but I have to say in Unforgiven text even better answer, which was, I know who I'm going to shoot last. That's right, anyway, that was just something I wanted to mention that I thought was really interesting about the movie. I know. Definitely. I mean, I think, you know, it goes to what you were saying that those two films really pair, well, and complement each other. They should be a double bill at any retrospective. Oh, absolutely. That would be great. I would go see that New Jersey. Second. Yeah. All right. We'll get on the phone to Film Forum tomorrow. Yeah, I'll talk. I'll talk to Bruce, Bruce, Bruce. Listen to me. I got, I got something great for you. It's called major best secret Elixir off. Oh. So I wanted to bring up one thing about the movie that this to me sums up. The whole movie is about two-thirds into the movie. The Saloon seen wage really interesting to me. It's the one part of the movie that actually, it starts out with the classic saloon doors, you know, that swing both ways and it's like the one off of the movie where I feel like they were like, okay, we're making a western, but we're, we're kind of subverting it a little bit. Here's your traditional Western for you. If you want, if you want that so much off, that's when the bounty hunter comes in. He gets intimidated by Clint Eastwood, he leaves, and then he comes back and he says, I had to come back that works on the level of the movie. Yes, he had to come back home. It works on the level of Personality, he just wouldn't be able to live with himself, but it also works works on like this kind of subtext of. This is what you're expecting in a western definitely. I mean, you know, this movie wage a lot of ways. It is a revisionist Western and it is, it is at its heart, that has pacifist subtext to it. Cleaning food, admits it, and it has both religious, and political allegories, one of the political allegories, one of which, at the time, it was very much about the Betrayal of American Trust. Because of the Vietnam War and the Betrayal of trust because of the Watergate but Clinton said and I agree with him. Just has to do with, you know, it's an anti-war film in general and he does this thing where it's a passive, he does see this. As he does have a pacifist subtext where she said, Clint says we don't have to do this so it does that but then it does give you. As you said, the conventional traditional man's. Gotta do, what a man's gotta do. Yeah. And it's just, you know. Yep. I have a showdown, gotta have a classic Showdown. I love that part of the movie like to me that sums up the whole movie because it's just an amazing scene. And it's just you could seek Josey Wales as tired at this point cause he doesn't want to keep doing this. I mean, that's what I took away from it of that. It's not that he cared about that guy or he didn't want to kill him. He's just I'm done. I've done a lot of shit and I do not want to kill you if I don't have to, oh, I agree. I agree. I think that scene comes before the ten bear scene where he kind of you see that he's trying to settle down or he's as he said he's getting tired. But speaking about the now-legendary famous scene. In this movie of dying, it much of a Livin boy. It reminds me of this movie has as I said before, it has religious, and political allegories or metaphors home teams in the film and dying reminded me of what I want to talk about. The very beginning of the film, when he has to bury his wife and six-year-old son and he dead Champs in the wooden cross that's tied together by leather straps and he collapses on the cross and he just he starts crying and he pushes the the cross to the ground took a slanted cross. And having watched it so many times, I was like, oh, you know, I thought it was I was I always wondered if it was, was this impulsive show of anger, just an emotional Outlet or and in watching this film wage is, is he denouncing God, like he never fixes the cross in the later scene. We see Bloody Bill right up to him. It's still an ex in the ground. So I just had it in my head watching it for this need cast. I was researching like you know this really just really just seems important to me. I mean it could very well have just been like I said that, you know, Clint Eastwood's like oh, it's just an emotional Outlet. It does it, but it seemed important to me. So I looked it up and a tilted cross is known as a Saint Andrew's cross which is a Herald symbol. So the X on the Confederate flag the X on the British union job. In countless of the flags are a Saint Andrew's cross. I was like, okay so there's the Confederate flag connection but that's like, I feel like there's something more and so as I read this whole thing cuz you know they use a subtext in the film like Josey Wales, he's always associated with verbiage or imagery of Hell, or being more than a man, but he's not Supernatural. But in any case, I read that some consideration, I'm across to be a symbol that represents the human race or Humanity as being positioned, right in the middle between Heaven and Hell. And when when I read that something went off in my head I'm like heaven and not, hell, and referencing it is a theme throughout this entire film, their constant references to hell, or being in Hell or Josie represented, as being in Hell or from Hell in the dialogue. The Centers is how long this song to Kingdom? Come with Biblical imagery? He'll have to run for now and he'll is where his headed Fletcher says. He'll be waiting for us there Centre, so he's saying he's in hell, right? And then Jake Tells Josie he's feeling better after they shoot the first set of Bounty Hunters. Glen and like, oh, by the way, I want to give a shout out to lend lesser who plays a VIN this film, but he's Uncle Louie and Seinfeld. He's like, I totally, I did not recognize that until you said it and his delivery, by the way, his it's going up at the same thing. But just a shout out to Len lesser his delivery as Abe is just amazing. It's like a real bush, hog, Insurance. Joseph Wells and he's just like he's fucking hilarious and his the way enunciate and Biggs in his film is great cuz he also says something like, you know, unbuckle those pistols. He's a, he's them, pistols out nice. And so, so I can cut the hairs on that their hand. He is home using in this movie, and it's ridiculous. But right after they take care and they should shot Uncle Leo for fucking Seinfeld, try to shoot Josie Wales. Jamie tells Josie, he's feeling better, you know, cuz he's been shot and it's like dead. Is it good? Because I ain't hauling you all over hell's creation dribbling blood over half a Missouri. So right the Earth is held creation and then blown body when they're when he's captured by the comancheros and wage Josey. Wales is going to save them because they try to rape loreley and, and they have granny and and Loan Watty captive loan body turns to Granny's Erin, says, get rid of the lady who's coming to breakfast. So Josey Wales is always associated with how Granny when she describes her Homestead and blood boutonniere sent to Rio the flipside. Is she describes it as a regular Paradise forehead, too, and when Josey Wales brings in the comancheros, when he goes to get a drink, like, oh, we haven't had. We ran out of the whiskey. Then we ran out of beer. We ain't got anything and he brings in the case of the commentary of the brand of red-eye, whiskey into the whole dried last lease and the bartender Kelly played by Matt Clark, guilt, pangs of Mercy have come to Santa rio. So just it was his other. Yeah. And and Randy's prayers towards the end of films job. It spawned Daniel died at the hands of that low-down murders trash out of hell. But then she also thanks a lot for Josey Wales who changed from a murdering Bushwacker in the sight of Satan to a better man. So the entire movie dialogue and people equate Josey Wales with both heaven and hell like Humanity like the Tilted cross. Wow. And there's your thesis man. There's so many, there's so many other things. I mean, the dialogue always equates Josie with animals, or since he's a force of nature, he's called a rather than twice as fast. He's called a bush hog. His called a cheese called change blue Lightning. He's always associated with nature, and then there's another very important theme throughout the entire film. It part of the plot, the theme of family, not by Blood, but by Bond cuz right Josey. Wales lose his wife and son, but he, he, he not only becomes a father figure to Jamie. He also becomes somewhat of a son to the chief loan Rowdy and loaned body lost. He says he he lost his two sons and wife and the Trail of Tears but he gets a little Moonlight and he gets Josie as replacement and Granny, Sarah loses. Her husband, who's her son and her brother, but she gets Josey Wales. And then writes the rest of the Crew 2 Live or most of the townsfolk from Santeria, right? Yeah. It's interesting how in a way it's I mean I kind of feel like it's it's pulling Josey Wales all over the place because he watched to be this loaner who just goes dead. And all he does is kill the people that have hurt him, but these other people just keep getting attached to him and can see why our pulse him back and forth between the two the next morning, he sees loan. Nobody sleeping and he's got this dog. The red bone mangy dog that showed up on underwear and he wakes up. He's like a cheap. I suppose that mangy Redbone. Hound has no place to go either he might as well ride with us. He'll everybody else has, right? Like I said before this movie is chock-full of them. Yeah. It's it's an amazing film and I'm sorry we're alone for the place tonight but it's kind of hard not to be with this film. No, listen, I'm all over the place too. Like I said, it's very important to the to that the both of us and it's so great and it's so dense and it's so so good. That's what's that, that's part of the problem. So I wanted to ask you about something towards the end of the film. If you think we're at that point the couple of little themes that want to talk about about Josey Wales is Faith and always called a bloodthirsty killer and and at the beginning he's bitter and traumatized Anchorman. He can't resist doing the right thing and helping people in need which goes to like he's sort of like an angel and a devil but he is a positive influence and a positive energy because the thing I find I found really interesting watching at this time that loan Wadi, he reconnects with his Indian spirituality and remembers. They're forgotten ways of his Youth and his people because of Josey Wales after he meets him and they had that conversation and Josey. Wales who doesn't trust anyone loan Lottery pulls a gun on him. He talks in for a little bit and he's so comfortable. He just goes into a corner and falls asleep, but as he sleeps, you see that in that meeting, he the chief connects him so much that he takes the stovepipe hat in the frock-coat. That's supposed to be what the Indy, civilized. Indian War would wear and he burns him. He starts to ReDiscover himself and his power and he went Josie wakes up, he's like a horned toad can tell you where to go and then there's scenes of him listening hearing horses by listening and ground and and being so proud like yeah, I feel like myself when he's smiling it says includes like I don't hear anything that you gotta be an Indian to know those things. The other thing is the movie does comment, not only about comments about the irony of stupidity of racism Prejudice in general because Granny Sarah who's she's kind of like the foil to Granny Hawkins cuz Grannie Seraph. She's hilarious, but for a good portion of film she's such an asshole. Like she's such an ass, she's such a little ass, all that. Yeah. Well, what did she say? At one point when there was the guy's, like, Hoosier myself and she's, like, I don't think much of a Hoosier. I don't care much for Hoosiers off and he's like, whoa, it's a cool. Yeah, she doesn't care. It's a couple of things. She says, the loan water either fucking hilarious, but after she saved by Josey Wales from the comancheros and the camping down And she like turns to load water. She says she wants a missed her anything? She says Indian Indian, this mr. Wales is a cold-blooded killer ribs from missourah weather. All known to be killers of innocent men, women and children. But the funny fucking part is, as the movie goes on, you realize that her son and she's proud of, it was part of Senator lanes, and wage controls fucking redlegs from Kansas, and those are the ones who murdered Josie's in an innocent wife and child. Wow, I did not catch that. Yeah, her son was a red light and she's proud of it in a eight people from Missouri and and Josey Wales hears it and he puts up with it. That's the thing that could have killed her or like an told her. What was what he doesn't bother, right. She does redeem herself by asking a small to say and like I said, the script is so tight. Cuz at some point she's like oh well when when they think that Ten Bears would tend Bears is captured to their buddies and they're getting ready. They're like oh ten minutes going to come down at a job. He's, he gives them all that great. If you think your backs-to-the-wall, you gotta get plumdog mean. It says all this stuff and Granny says yeah. We're really going to show this Red Skins. Something tomorrow, no offense and alone. He's like none, take off. And then when the white red legs attacked them and she's like, those murdering Bushwhackers there, an embarrassment loan water. Gets to to give it back to her when he says over really going to show those pale faces. Something she said no offense, and she redeems herself when she says, None take him, right? So she comes around to, she comes around. She told he comes around, I mean, she's like I said, mostly an asshole. She's hilariously so much, does come around and just so amazing to me because she couldn't like her if you tried, you know, there was a part of me when they got captured by the camera Sheriff's Office. I was kind of like, I don't feel that bad for them. They kind of had a common just saying, so yeah. What's a couple of things? I wanted to give a couple of special call-outs, I think home. The mentioned that Jerry, fielding's music, received an Oscar nomination and it's a very psychological insertables score, like, Josey, Wales obviously is traumatized by the event. So when he thinks, when things are going well and he prepares to leave at the end of the movie cuz he can't take it once, they got to settle and he starts to feel like home. He States really getting, you know, he's a haunted man. Starts, getting those bad flashbacks and has bad dreams and he's got a dreams of being a homesteader and he's got to go. So that's really good. And I also hate not only have to take them to count. He's not only haunted by the death of his family. The movie and Josie is really haunted by the death of Jamie because there's a musical leitmotiv of the song that Jamie sings to him. Is he says that his father would sing when he showed the did the fancy needlework on his shirt. I mean the movie in some respects really is about father and religious relationship between Father and Sons cuz Jamie admits to Josie who's his surrogate father. What his real father would do and it was something that was kind of embarrassed me. Let them in on the secret that his father dead. Because he had no mother did the fancy stitching. So he could match the other guys in the troop. But the music, the the Roosevelt of m e carries throughout the entire film. So the movie never forgets Jamie musically. Yeah, that's a good point and I was, that was such a touching little moment of him talking about this father doing the needlework and just I could see that. I mean those times would be really embarrassing to admit your father, did that? Yes. No. Yeah, absolutely. And it shows the bond that and trusted Jamie had in Josie to admit it. Yeah. And I just wanted them to live. I'll admit it just when he died. I was just like, fuck. Come on. You know, it hurt. It just definitely was a Punch. Yeah. But it part of power of the, the impact of the film and the spirit. That's why it's so important. That the music leitmotiv that's carried through really resonates and keeps that bittersweetness going. One of the thing I wanna talk about in Georgia. Right after another scene with Jamie, how badass was it to see Clint when, when they're trying to hide, from the soldiers, chasing after him and Clint just makes the two horses lay down, right? But he actually does it. There's no fucking stunt double here. Like he actually physically gets these two horses to, like, lay down and stay down. It's just very impressive. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Was a cool little moment. So one of the things I wanted to talk about, I'm sure you have the lot to say about is the end where Josie goes after Terrell and he's just firing the guns through there and so good. And it's just like, this is a guy who's just, he's at his fucking end, he's got nothing else left except for Revenge. Oh no, definitely. I mean, emotional, confrontation with Josie and Terrell is, it's so good and it's so gratifying and so many levels. You have this suspenseful chase, you have as you describe that sequence, suspenseful sequence, wage, Am talking back and trying to shoot him with all of his guns. All four of his guns, so twenty four times, and it's all done. It's all done silent and slow there. No speeches. No war crime. It's a fight to the death in silence and it's a Biblical Revenge because Tyrell is a bloody man who lived by The Sword and he dies by his own Sword. And the vet one that physically metaphorically and spiritually scarred and created the Josey Wales. We say it's one of those things. I gotta admit, if I was reading a script, I got home. I don't know if this is going to work, but it totally works. He's, he's giving everything he's got to just killing this guy. He doesn't want any discussion. No, forgiveness. This guy's got a dog. Oh yeah, and he does it and like I said, it's clicking it back. It's almost like he's in like a case in a of bloodlust he's like he's under a spell cuz once he went after he like grabs him Any forces, the sword to go through Terrell, who's trying to tackle with and it goes through me, kills them. He you physically? See, like he almost seems to wake up out of this sort of death trance that he's in. Yeah, it's a primal. It's really. It's just tastic. Now, here's a question for you, okay? At the it's a very end of the movie, he rides off. And I have to admit, I'd like to think he goes back to the family and to log lay and settles down, and he's like, I'm done. I'm going to be a normal human and have a life with my, you know, start a new family, but I don't think he does. Yeah. So it just reminds me of the other thing I want to talk about. So yes I agree with you when I the first two hundred fifty times. I watch this movie I was like he's gone baby. He left he can't he can't deal with it right. He left. But one of the things that I was unaware of or had forgotten was there was a sequel that was written by Earl Carter. The Vengeance trail of Josey Wales and that was not done by the malpaso company which now we need job. All of the details about mr. Carter, I understand why I'm glad that Clint Eastwood didn't continue the association, but someone did we need to touch upon the fact that we both discovered that there was a fucking sequel to this movie in a 1986 called The Return of Josey. Wales. That was written. Apparently, claims It Was Written the script by Forrest Carter but I don't know how to it's possible because asset Carter died. In nineteen, seventy nine, three years after Outlaw Josey, Wales. Now that I think of it, but in any case, Michael Parks did this movie, and I talked to the email, you sent me the link to be able to look at this thing and I tried, I really tried. I gave it the old College. Try to watch this film. It is fucking awful. Yeah, it's I mean, you warned me. I mean, I said it was student loan student film level bad. It is, it is unbelievably bad. Is on every level. I know that it was not the best. It was probably off of VHS but oh my God, it was worse than I actually spoke to and I remember you said something like the movie starts off in the middle of a sentence. Yep, it does. It's, it's just, it's up to people talking and they've been talking for a while before we shut up, it's horrible. Yeah, this movie pack the return Josey Wales. It starts in the middle of the sentence is you turn it on the movie starts. And the first thing you see is a guy turning away from a woman, it could have been shot in the like in Key room at Boston College with me or Kevin like lighting it cuz it looks awful looks fucking atrocious Injustice, I believe, I will, and like, turns around like pours himself a drink, that's how it's just, but everything about it is sub-par amateurish, terrible. It's embarrassing across the board in every way, sound editing, staging costuming app. Direction. Location cinematography, the music. It is Edward bad. Yeah. The staging of scenes are so awful is like what the fuck? Michael Parks. I really enjoy you as an actor, you're fucking great, entertainment films, You're great and other stuff, he is a terrible. Terrible director. Yeah, the movie is an, it's an intense exercise, the stamina and I just didn't have it. I threw in the towel about 30 minutes. I just, I just couldn't do it anymore. Well, you got that far. Yeah, I didn't get that far. I tried there's, there's a couple things I wrote that I was laughing, cuz at some point Mexican federales coming to the bar. And I say something, and in a real movie to show someone's power. The bartender says something, and the Federalist smacks him in real movie, he was smacked him. He would have been loud, he would have knocked him behind, and broken some bottles or something, you know, good staging in this. It, I always want you to watch it. When you, when you can just to see this one, bit the slap Club. Slap is, it's like a grown man, slapping. Another grown man with the intensity of a tenth month old baby. I know what the fuc was that it's awful and there's a scene where I wrote in my notes, it it tries to transition and it does this weird video effect of, oh, we're going to do a transition where you, like walk around. Like I wrote, It's like a fucking, like, The Brady Bunch like, oh, my only said, don't throw, you know, don't play ball in the house and like one of them, it's like, it's a different scene. It does that in this film. But within the same scene off, it is fucking bad. So yeah, we, all right, I'll try to watch it again. I I got about 10-15 minutes in. I was just like, I've had enough Faith know, you don't really need to I maybe just for the slap scene. I described because that did make me laugh. Might have been because I had some Wild Turkey 101 in me, but it was really fucking funny. Yeah, I mean, look this movie is just not the return address as long as The Outlaw Josey Wales is everything that returned Josey Wales is not. It is phenomenal. In every way is only one thing and I don't know if it's a criticism, there's only one thing that I'll bring up in it. It's Something deep blood. The blood is so interesting in this movie because it was the thing. I noticed I noticed from especially late sixties and seventies films. Blood is not Karo syrup or something. It's just red paint. Like it just seems like straight-up Dutch masks, whatever insert Painting Company here. It's just red paint. This is the 70s where Sam peckinpah, impeccable squibs, and faith in court. There is no Gore in this movie and that's fine. But there's no action when people get shot, when jamming it shot. There's no actual hole in his jacket like they don't ruin the costume. They just kind of put like a like, almost like perfect circle of red, right? Yeah, it's a little weird enough for it and also when guys get shot, they kind of fall down. They just conveniently like in a good pile. Yeah, yeah, Faith. Again, not. It does not detract from my undying Devotion to this film but I just, I just felt. I had a mention. It, it is an aesthetic that carries over. I mean, quite tend to know kind of puts it down. That kind of that particular. I almost feel like that particular shade of red is the shade of red. He uses in his logos, okay. I could be completely wrong. But yeah, I mean like to sum up the movie Clint thinks there's an anti-war film and I agree. Obviously, at the time of its release, it was obviously a metaphor for, as I said, we spoke about Vietnam War, and Watergate and complete mistrust of government and Authority that the double tongues is Ten Bears calls them. Do, and the complete Insanity of war in general. And that's a point that it's still relevant to present today. I mean, this was a western that was both. It was a critical and Commercial Success, and it's pop culture. And as you said before, you can just watch this movie and enjoy it. But what makes it special? Is it had something to say? Yeah, no doubt, absolutely, but it wrapped in a very smart way because both a revisionist western and as you brought up and points it it is also a traditional Western because it uses and plays with the conventions of the genre to achieve both Ames. Yeah. Yep. Lily, I totally agree with you. I've got nothing to add to that. Other than that, you're get on. Well, thank you. The other thing that I want to say that Dental, this is a total Kick-Ass action, pass Western that actually has a pacifist off text. I wanted to end with comments about claims. We would end this film particular by Orson Welles. Oh, really. Okay. Re-reading the Richard schickel biography on the chapter, eleven about this film that I came across something, apparently, so hoarse. And I looked for this on YouTube and I could not find it. So if you find it, please tell me in any way to listen to this. If you find it on YouTube, please let us know, apparently Orson Welles was on the Merv Griffin Show and it must have been around 1982 because apparently, it says that he kind of dismissed. He he dismissed Firefox in discussion but he went on to praise, Clint Eastwood and especially the allergies Wills. He said I suppose Clint Eastwood is the most underrated director in the world today. I'm not talking about him as a star. They don't take him seriously. The way they don't take beautiful girls. Seriously. They can't believe that they can act if they're beautiful. And he said an actor, like clings to. It is such a hero type of Mythic hero star in the Wayne tradition. That no one is going to take him seriously as a director, but someone ought to say it, and when I saw that picture phone need the fourth time, I realized it belongs with the great Western's, you know, the great Western's, our Ford and Hawks and people like that and I take my hat off to him. I'm glad to have had the chance to say that the fact that Orson Welles watch, this movie, four times Orson Welles right? Watch this movie four times and felt it necessary to talk about how great it was. So, fucking great and just let's say, I'm glad we took a chance. And while we may have jumped around a lot because of our love and because of our whiskey, I'm glad we had a chance to have a couple of drinks and discuss this. Mutual personal favorite of ours on this show with you. Yeah, I totally value this conversation. This is a lot of fun and it's great to talk to somebody who appreciates this movie wage. It's it's not like the film, their typical movie where you can bring it up in 10 people go. Oh yeah, I love that movie. It's one of those movies that I think over time, it's kind of slipped behind the radar and it's fantastic on so many levels. Yeah, fukin classic. So good. All right. You think we should round it up at this point? Yeah, okay. Well, I think I think I sold the timer for tonight, as you can hear, the music is playing. So that means we're running to the end if you want to have a conversation with us. Please visit us at the cinephilia. Clowns.com, totally, appreciate life, my dad. And please don't forget to follow us on Instagram, PR nuts, and a few are clowns. And on Twitter, you can find us at the cinephilia one. And you can also find us on Facebook at the air clown, as one word. Thank you so much for joining us on our third episode. This is been so much fun for us. We hope it was fun for you next episode. Going to be discussing the 1991 Ridley, Scott film Thelma and Louise. Thank you so much.

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Ep 305 | Unashamed LIVE: Phil, Jase, and Al Take Their Show on the Road

Unashamed with Phil & Jace Robertson

1:07:55 hr | 3 months ago

Ep 305 | Unashamed LIVE: Phil, Jase, and Al Take Their Show on the Road

"Unashamed what about you to do that. Anybody out there. Can you hear me. We can't see you guys. But i know you're there. Indiana shame christians here today to join us. I guess we've found the right. Yep for a second. I thought this was the sole dumb into the big city. The big lie. I want to know who my best clothes. I was about to comment on that. You j's really dressed up for the occasion. Thank you for that. you did change shirts though. Didn't you dan change shirt. it's clean your other. One was clean. It was just stains dirty looking. It made me think of the movie when he said. How's it on stain. Joe's who are you people. Don't watch that. What the rescue favor. While wear camouflage when i go the big cities because it makes me uncomfortable. If you're going to watch the or listening unashamed podcast. You have to watch josey wales. You're going to be lost all the time. If you don't watch the tv version. I think that's pg so jason noticed here on yours. Did you cut these sleeves off yourself. Al's bringing this because on the way my lovely wife is with us out there somewhere. And i can't see because it's big light and so we get into. What would you call the disagreement. I'm not sure what happened. I thought it was a witty. We'd t. banter wait ended. And she's like. Why are you bringing that shirt. This shirt brings me comfort when. I go to big cities as i get nervous. It's like a concrete jungle. Though i know at any moment i could just pay out running and find some woods. And i'm in ammo. I know that's weird. But that's how my coping mechanism work. But she's well you cut off the sleaze mean that's just so like we'll bay when i was in an emergency situation. That's how i lost these sleeves. And she said what do you mean so well. I was in the woods. I had an emergency situation. They don't sell toilet paper in the woods and she said well you use both at the same time the no on two different occasions you do between us at our road one of them up. So what's what's next. What if what if we have a third ultra ksm. Well this is a size too big. And so i've noticed i will start working from the bottom. Welcome to the redneck man. Think i'm joking. But i'm dead serious. That's how it happened. You know what people do that. I've seen anywhere that before. And i didn't know there was that story that we w down the plane as well. I guess i know how open in the podcasts. See this is how the podcast works. You hear a story like that anything people would probably be interested in knowing that someone on our podcast. Cut the sleeves off of their shirt to use the restroom but then still wear the shirt in lap personally. Renounced pairing off of your attire. I go with leaves. Well you have to know what type of lease they don't go with any vani lease coming up. Van seems to have the browder sleep. So i found an overcome tree. These people are in a big city. So i don't think this is helpful but if you ever got in the woods this would be good to know. Bill actually has a top three leaf charge. Yeah it's like a chart because you know you think what's the big deal. Well you get one that has poison ivy on it and you've made things a lot worse. Yeah thought that was funny. Say start as bad said before. Do 'cause we're live today. So i'm trying to behave and do a little bit better. So zack is good to have you back with us is a. He's kind of our fourth chair when he's in town guide and then sometimes and together. That gets my nephew. And i think he nephew he was supposed to introduce this while ago but when he walked off stage. I'm not sure they. That was aired. But i said where was the altar call it was that was a sermon somewhat of a punching bag right actually liked it. Can we get some coffee. Got coffee. Because i don't know you think it's black ripe. Okay well. i told him. I met a couple of really nice ladies in the green room that wasn't green which was weird but rednecks came down. Push it down. let's put. Yeah dr pushing that lever. Oh like this. I got now now. Now go well. This is fancy stuff here so well. I told him. I said we're not going to drink this coffee and say that sioux strong this is. Byu see when your own coffee just now spotted my wife. Yeah okay with that story that she sagging ahead now. One of the most fun times we had i had was when missy was on the podcast in jay's was so nervous about it darryl we don't have anything in common outside of jesus hates that when i say that but it's just the truth people don't think we go together and that's fine but facial profiling is wrong. It should be addressed but we both love jesus and guess what that's enough we've proven it. Yeah i thought so my clap over that drink a little bit until mean about looking at us two week but failed compared to what you would have got had. I not said you're not gonna make it too. Strong it's drinkable is so funny. Goes to the reivers men especially the older ones. We were at an event one time and and cy was there and somebody comes in. They said you know we made this just for you. I don't i can't remember what it was. But he looked at it and he took a by. He's not like he was like something wrong but he said no no good. He's showed that. As that i was i mean does was i crazy us. The number one question. I get when i do. Events is is sav really as crazy as he seems. And i always say the same thing. It's worse than you think. I describe it like an iceberg is insanity because you see that part that's above the water in. It's pretty spectacular. But if you could see what's underneath the water it's the broad nece in the fastness of it. Dad says he was born with dementia. And we just got used to it. One thing when sow was a boy he he never wore closed until school started first grade. You know but he never wore clothes too long naked so mama told him said regret wear clothes. Because you've school you can't go over that enclose though he said i'm not wearing so it was quite a ruckus. Get him to put. We didn't wear shoes in that day and age. We didn't wear shoes school but they made us at least have clothes on but he bought. He didn't want to visit those out where you had the thought. God must have a special plan for him because he was difficult. Cy as y'all know is a very godly man. I agree with that very godly. That's good enough for me. I told him when he signs his autograph he needs to go with that. First corinthians passage that says i said just put the numbers and let them look it up. Don't say what it is and it says if i'm out of my mind for the sake of christ where's that second corinthians five or got mobile look it up it up. By the way. I was knows in his bible. Those be the watch the podcast so there the day was looking for a passage so the whole thing just pulls out and they're all out of order in so he's like he can't find he's suggests i mean. I think it's time for new bible when you when you literally can't find the book in the bible but he's still he's like dad he has to have the same way and i can't because you putting all this pressure on where we're just gonna kick corinthians five in verse thirteen. I didn't know the numbers. But i knew where it was on the page. Which is why can't get a new bible. I have a weird mind. It a know where it is on the section. So you can use that if you have any crazy members in your family you welcome. The days are always so you brought your duck calls. We don't think we've ever alone. This is when we're normally do pied gas. We don't go in there and say let's just pick on jay's the whole time when i don't know what i'm doing i'll wear camouflage and i bring my dot calls bobble and hopefully my wife. But she came begrudgingly. Well we're doing. Thank after this with the chosen. Isn't that a good show missing there later. But i'm sure we've never done. I don't think we've ever blown dot com the podcast and since we got we have. I blew it all on the now. Never have anybody. That's watched all the episodes. Yeah there's little down from wherever blown dot calls on days was right again bands. They no. yeah. I'm not sure why we did. I think i sure why we do. Do you remember why the reason the ducks come up. Is that going way back. I earned two degrees from louisiana tech and over about an eight year stretch. Not what's not even once. Did i ever hear the word. Jesus while i was being educated or eight years not one word. No one used the word. Jesus my entire education happening. So what i ran up. Jesus i repented and i came up with an idea whereby i wanted to use a particular skill set that never came forth while i was being educated. Well now repented interns jesus one. I knew nothing about as i was twenty eight so i told miss k. I said listen a held up on the duck calls. Did you see that he said yeah. I said that's the only one lack at a guy hit me. And i showed him what i wanted and i built my own duck call. You say but that's no big deal. Well it's according how you look at now. I have the help of god. So i can trust in god i can trust in capitalism and i can work hard and make duck calls because when you live in the woods lot. These boys raised up in me. I came out with a keen sense of what birds sound like. You say well. That's no skill set. Well i said miss kay. That's family me a place on the river. A said one way in one way out. I said it has to be a flowing stream. The lake has to be a river. If we wanna lead we can go by boat and go to the gulf of mexico. I said so place on the river. bland. And i'm going to fish. Catch fish a fisherman fish. I was a man catching fish. So i said until i get the duck call going and get it on the market and then you will have some of that loan green in your pocket. Then you left out the curry. Is you violated every child labor law so that my point is we have the duck cost. Here they're part of our live because before we came along all you had pretty well was mallard hen calls. We built gad wall. That's another duck again wall. We bill would duck calls. They sound like. Would you made a demonstrate. Yeah okay what he's going to go through is what we did and you say that particular skill set. What did it do for. Y'all we're millionaire. Yeah the right skill set trusting god and then just in capitalism wallwork all milk mainers pledging coming up in that passage where the dogs were under the table. Get some crumbs me. Your explains the camouflage the duck calls. It was a lifestyle we turned into a business and lyndale the pillow guy in the back. And then you make pillows. I make bird sounds. That's what we're doing here. That guys quiet the salesman. I wanted to ask them sheets like anthrax to he gave me the whole commercial. And i said but i already have one. He's like oh great. Have you got the sheets. Go blow the duck college as get out. I said no. I don't have the sheets that he was trying to sell them the sheets while i thought that was interesting. You know he's good and so you got to mallard in which does three things. this is the brown version. The green head is the drake. It's weird before. I blow this. Because i think because we're going to concrete jungle. I think i have to explain this. It's hard for for humans to relate to ducts but in the duck world the women the female do most of the talking. The dray only says one thing but when he does it he looks around. Like did you hear what i say. Even those different try to relate but the hand she does a feed call. She does this when she's eighty. She'll go a little bit like a chicken. She does a content call. She'll do a quiet and when she sees other dogs she does a greeting call with says. Come over here it's safe. You say how do you know that because when we put painted pieces of plastic decoys that are painted look like the ducks in front of our spread morale. Camouflage when we make that sound they stop and come in because they think oh. There's a party going but it wasn't safe. Then here's what happens. We shoot them. We clean them. We'd and fill up this part out. Because i believe that what spawned his idea about the duck calls is found in genesis nine. And so if you don't if you're not familiar with that it's actually the birthplace of hunting dennison's nine one through four with jaggery are great neon. Oh we're in the concrete jungle here and a lot of y'all are probably not duck hunters. Do we have any duck hunters in here. There's a trust that sounded loud but there was like six hands run recipes. People eating chicken for that. But god basically tell noah and his family because it was crazy times back. Then you think our cultures bad. It was a little rougher back. Then we're down to one family. That's actually trust in guy and they're having this by moment on the ark with the animals. Thank lion king because that's what it was. They weren't wild that Because after the water goes down. God makes an announcement to the animal world. He says from now on the fear and dread of you he was talking to his family will fall upon and he starts naming groups of animals. He says the beast of the earth the birds of the air the crawlers of the ground and the fish of the sea. I've read this so much that i memorized. Not on purpose it. Just i just love it. And he said just as i gave you the green plants. I give you everything everything that lives. A moves will be food for you. You already have five fingers up. According to god. I just gave you the five food groups. Anything that walks crawls flies swims or grows. And so what did the animal do. In that moment they ran they ran. They became wild. And so when you walk in the woods if you don't have camouflage and yours walking well. I don't see anything you know. Why because they're hiding. Does god put that wildness in them. So that's where hunting began. And i think bill's philosophy was. I'm gonna make duck calls that sound like ducks instead of what happens in the duck hunting moral but you don't make duck calls and sell 'em you have to win the world championship which i do when i go around to events and do duck call. Seminars is actually what i get paid to do. Duck call seminars so you take a call if you want to go into the contest instead guard. This is what you need to do. They'll take duck call. This is supposedly a mallard hen sound. And they'll go and they'll do that long long long knowing then. The next gas devs up. What's he going to. he's gonna go that and they just seeing who can do higher louder and longer without any break in the notes or until someone passes out. I got the cpr team. Oh there it's pretty cool. The problem is doug don't do that and so my dad identified that and he kind of made fun of him which created a reopen controversy. And my dad is one of those unusual people that he really done mind controversy and so he had his marketing ploy. There he's gonna make meet calls and and so then he just started going down the list of ducks and so the green that does the one thing he invented this call and up until this point amount of drake. It never said a word. I gotta response. I'm liking this audience. I just got a call. That was the hand responding to the drake. You say maybe we cannot say. That's why i told you we should allow podcast. That's never going to happen in the studio. I'm gonna get a marker this zone. I'm a son. And i'm gonna find that hand which is actually a dude which is weird and might giving never leave home without your your bible and your call all three and i'm getting ridiculed putting some of the other species all right so you gotta would so if you've ever been in the woods at night and heard this or during the day and you say what is that sound. That's a wood duck flying. The anybody heard that that probably wasn't it would give someone screaming. So here's what fielded. That was interesting with this call. What we learned was that people said in the duck world that would ducks not be called like mallards. You call them. They'll come whatnot you call at them and they would never come and my dad figured something out a would. He only makes that sound. when he's flying so people would make. Would that calls and they would go out and they have painted pieces of plastic. Because we've gone through that sitting on the water and they use the call blinds down the when the windows came by that income in and the reason is obvious on what the ducks were thinking as they flew by. You've probably already guessed stupid. That's not real. The ducks are sitting. you would make the flying. Sounds so he came up with all the sitting sounds of a wood duck which they do many sitting sounds these are a few. They'll go the what happens in the while we we all make like if a window. We hear him go then. We'll respond in the blind. We'll go and then they'll respond and then we'll resume we've done it hundreds of times and guess what they just come right up to you because they think you're an actual wood and thank of the awesome feeling that you convinced a wild animal the genesis nine that even though you're a human that you had this lovely conversation and then you can have supper with your family and pray to god and thank god. We're giving you orders from headquarters fail. They are so it's organic before organic became co then. That's pretty good. What about that. Yeah what does you should have a tv show or something. That was really interesting. One coming out and you're responsible and it's coming it's a little different than dot gov. This is more about digging in the dirt and find an law so tell foes why. Why do you like digging in the dirt is. I'm curious about that. Because i don't like digging in the dirt but you do well. There's a couple reasons. I get one. I don't mind being being dirty and muddy. I'll i like that. I don't see these people go into car washes and all and i'm sorry maybe you people but why would i do that. I'm just going to get a dirty again. Right bay bene- thirty five year argument as i. I wear that mud with pride. So i don't mind be feel more comfortable than i do. Now been surrounded by concrete. And so that's just one obvious thing. I like being outdoors. Because you'll notice we're a little different than the other people on this board of speakers. We we seem a little different because we discovered god in the in the outdoors it. The creation lead us to the creator. And so i'm thankful for that because to me there's way more evidence that there was an intelligent design when you look at the details in the outdoors. Like are you kidding me. This sophistication came from nothing dumps in ignorant. I just wasn't man what's lead us to the bible. And so how i got into metal detecting was i've read some stores in the baba luke. Fifteen is my favorite chapter in the entire bible. And y'all remember this. I mean jesus is eating with the riffraff tax collectors and centers. And he's being accused by religious people that if you were really religious you wouldn't be with this people. Why are you doing that way. Tells three stories for one of them on why he is interacting and having a male with centers and one of the stories is if a woman loses a coin and i think back in their day some historians have said you know they had a. They're waiting bound sometimes. It was a necklace that had ten coins on. There'd be the equivalent of us losing our wedding ring which i have been called to find those with my metal detector but i thought you know if the creator of the universe uses this as an example of finding a loss coin and describing the joy. That happens when you find something of value and the joy also that happens in heaven when the creator of the universe finds has lost sons and daughters if if the lord of the universe is using that for an example for to experience joy. I needed to try that. And so i'm telling you. I love to hunt. I think that's one motivation whether it's something i can eat or whether it's something of value that's lost. Its way that. I want to get back going again. That something valuable that's undiscovered but i'm gonna tell you when i go out. There reminds me of how much god pursues us because it's melted. Texans rough your dirty your sweaty. Sometimes it's a strike out you're going you're doing research you're trying to find places where something loss would be and i don't know it's just it's a mirror image in a reminder of what god is doing in each one of our lives it's good. It's good like this woman. We have a woman out here that keeps saying so bit a man. Thank you sister. Because i agree. It's just awesome. How much. God pursues so dad would you. I would say in observing you over mile and that's almost fifty years of my observation of you that you're passionate about two things are primarily dot says one and sharon jesus would be the other one and not necessarily in that order. But that's your two passions. Why is that. why do you think that is. I live such a sinful life that when i finally sat down over it up and listened to the message the guy drut at and diagrams and he drew an error on a piece of paper era. Coming down he said that's when god became flesh at the time it was to that that's been Forty seven forty eight years ago. But when zeroed in on the fact that we're all counting time jesus of galilee all the years before jesus got here are called all the years before jesus got here and all the years after jesus got here are called. Ad and no dumi now year of our lord so the first time in my lab. When i heard that we're in point one of the gospel. God becoming flesh. Now it's two thousand twenty one years ago. Your calendar is right in front of you are got dan the unit he works. He's ks butler. And the only reason we call him a eunuch is. He has chosen not to marry so instead of ragging about it. He has every right to say. I'm not getting married. I did tell him to be a lot cheaper. No doubt there so you got to come down out of heaven. God becoming flesh had him call that girl that knows everything on the computer. I don't have a computer. Never use one or cell phone but somebody said that alexa. i think was your name as a call alexa. Whoever she was. And i said ask. What year is it in red channel in china and alexa said two thousand and twenty one. I said oh. I said asking what year is in russia. She said relax. I said two thousand. Twenty one i said what about north korean. Two thousand twenty one. So i'm taking everybody's counting tamba. Jesus i would think you would at least anybody investigating because right. After he came roughly thirty three years later he does own across. And that's what the guy wrote next to him becoming class. His death was on across for the sins of the world. All of you pay sends to be removed. If you come to jesus none of your future ones would began at against chick they kill. Start in matthew. I did this morning. So i could be pretty precise at least ten different times in matthew mark luke and john. Jesus said we're going up to jerusalem. I'm going to be betrayed. The hands that with a wicked man. Cheap priests and the teachers of the law. They're going to kill me and then three days avi race from the day. He said it matthew said he said it said he said it. Luke said he said it and john said he said it and guess what they all four recorded jesus died was buried and raised from the dead. Just like he hit said he was going to do over and over and over to me. You say. that's the gospel. All your cindy. Remove guaranteed you. It was impossible for that to hold. Its take hold of him. If you come to. Jesus it's impossible for debt. Take it home own you. You're good not a living man. What talking immortality here. So you got immortality ride on it. After he was raised from the dead he spent forty days. According to luke and acts chapter one forty days to convince them he was alive. Show doubting thomas where where abrahams pierce showing them. What happened. Let them look at him and they were just stunned. Thomas drop down in front of him as my lord and my god. I said i don't believe this saw. It could be beaten dan. He conquers death for the human race. Already days he stays and it goes back to sit down at the right hand of the father where there's constant mediating work the blood giving you have any san you'll ever commit because you're no longer on the law of works but grace if you got a better story america. I'm looking at what america's doing now and i'm thinking. Wow they so mean to each other land stealing shooting luton burnin running. I'm like what in the world. There's no jesus they're all evil to us is to love him for crying out loud. I would think so and love each other. How hard can it be. I don't wanna preach sermon. Actually did want to preach you a little sermon and i did. I think he just did that. By the way. And we take them down the river when we baptize them. Because jesus said go make disciples of all nations and baptism so when we come down here we share what you just heard if you say thousands of said that i saw a couple of bash. Run one time coming and i had about three or four girls out of one. He's rehab homes. They were standing on the bank and one was out there standing in the river with her. And i'd fixed a bad tires. I looked up. And i saw a boat coming with a couple of bass fishermen. You know they wanna get the bank when they stole so everybody's standing in the or that you know. They thought what i said i said. Hey y'all wanna get in on some action or did they take out. I don't think they were quite ready. So what about you. What are you passionate about. These days may well. We're working on a feature film that's going to be about. Fill in case light the first twenty eight years of their lives and harder testimony. And i didn't like that because it was so embarrassing. Is this going to be rated r. Depend on how how realistic somebody said he's got a really really good on jazz it up a little bit. I'm not trying to jazz it down. Because i had a lot of cnn's but i will say this after me telling you i had a lot. I'm betting so. Did you write phil sad. He read the quote from the apostle paul. Who said i'm the chief of all centers he said so it could be worse. Could be but yeah. We're working on that right now. We'll get another podcast. A couple of other podcasts or doing but but i guess what i'm passionate about we just we just adopted a little baby so that's new number five so we've talked about that on the blackout. Maybe maybe ruth was born on easter. They had to revive her back to life and she was two pounds five ounces and one of the nurses br brought us a king size baby ruth bar and put it right next door so i got a picture of her with the baby ruth bar so baby. Ruth was the same size as you've adopted a little girl right. Yeah and semantics. Get for those kids. She is from nicaragua we were. We were helping her out and we just had this moment. We share this on last podcast. She was so proud that she's gotten a job and she sent a picture of her little office. Space and missing hours talking to. What was it that you big day on. I was like you know you think of a girl born in a third world country. You lost your parents. He was raised by grandma who she who died her. Only connection with having a mentor was a guy. Who's a believer in jesus. And he just noticed. We have an orphan girl. And he just poured the love of christ and and encourage. You're not to give up not to be a statistic and so this girl via the internet educates ourself devotes herself to the lord and has a bumpy life and looks up and she's stranded because a civil war broke out in the country. She's from she can't get back in. He literally has the clothes on her back. And the guy who mentored her called our church and said is there anybody you can think of. That can help this girl and back then. It was kind of even though she had a visa to come in because she got a scholarship to college university. It was at that time yet. She was still in high school and missing. I said hey. Let's get her in a country and that was back when the trumps were in office. And i'm friends with donald trump junior through hunting and and relationship with helping kids with cleft lip and palate. And i thought you know if. I have to use my one phone call. I'm using it over this girl. We're getting out of that. But it never came to that. But once i matter in got to know her and so our heart we had a conversation. One day is about three months into it. I said look. You don't have any parents we don't have a nicaraguan daughter. I said we would like to be your parents. And she said yes please and so she gives me tear it up sometimes because she just has no maliciousness about her and she's grateful for everything she has but above. She won't take anything unless she feels like. She's done something to earn it but she's just a hard work and she. She's fixed to graduate college and we've been with for years. I mean she's my daughter but she's more than that. She's a sister for jesus and a warrior. But i always gravitate toward people and i got this from jesus not in a seminar somewhere but when because i'll go to event and they'll be hundreds of people like today and it tends to be overwhelming and i've told you all previous podcast. My number one fears public speaking. And you're like yeah number twos flying and this and i'm going all over and doing this. But when i noticed what jesus did in the gospels is he picked out these little moments between just individuals that had huge powerful things that came out of that. I think about the samaritan woman and she became the spokesperson there and later on in act. She's all these people are converted because she she planted the seed. And so i look for these moments at these events with individuals and it's usually people that have every reason in the world to give up or quit. There's something wrong with them physically. Or whatever and i made them and i i just try to pour into them in this moment because i think men the rest of us been blessed. You look at all the things that have. Here's a person who has extreme difficulty and has every reason in the world just to say i give but they not only refused to do so but they're usually the most smiling the most encouraging and i'm like you know romans five. I think about that passage. Yeah they've been through all this suffered and somehow they found their comfort in. Jesus it can make all things possible. And that's what keeps me going in these these moments the i think Adoption is one of those buejan components for in the pro-life. We're alive but you gotta have. Christians are willing to adopt children. That's part of it. Of course we have to have a message out there. We have to be able to. You know help. More girls get ultrasounds. So they'll hear that heartbeat and not wanna take that life and so. There's so much that we do kind of working together. That's one of the passions. Lisa currently have is in the pro-life movement. I think it's probably as good as it's been since this whole nightmare started back in the seventies because of technology number one. It's easier now to be able to you. It's hard to look inside that womb. It's at such an early age and say that's not a baby. That's not a child. It's on a little boy little girl and then the other thing is i think we now as christians have really put pro love back in the pro-life movement We were we were much more. On the protests side. You know a few decades ago and that's understandable because it's a terrible thing but it's much better when we can love people and try to help them make better decisions. And i think that's what our pregnancy centers and many of you are doing so i just want to give a big thumbs up to be involved in the pro-life because it's worth it to say kids also getting for years. I worked at our church preached. We had another guy. He and i co pastored together and it was really neat because we always used to say. We had to preachers for the price of two preachers. And because that's what it was. We did together well now. Ironically for the last year and a half we volunteer pre so now. We have to preachers for the price of no preachers. Which is great for the church. But i'm loving it. It's been a lot of fun to preach without that pressure of working for the church. I feel like. I can just really dive into the word. And that'd be the ministry the beautiful thing thanks to blaze. Tv is that we with my studies of preaching. We're able to do the same studies on the podcast. And so that's no accident that we did the book. John vars why we did test. That's a nice way of saying we're basically giving you all your material for your sermons. That's right well. It's of us y'all's material far superior but no actually actually jason's says right. I learn a lot of being able to stow the bible jason. Add anzac when he's with us on a regular basis. We just had a guy in for one of our teachers at w. f. r. for roma's nine. It was just me. I learned a lot. Oh yeah good. I mean we needed robbins. Nine through eleven is difficult. And when you what are we have. We concluded that we're all see. I'm a plus fills a c. plus. I think i'm a b. Plus y'all yes. I'm a little bit higher thirty smart. I was smart. And i do feel happy with c. Plus because that means i'm smarter than have them they say what about the other half that are smarter new. Should i live with trying to be street. Smart which is important. I mean because i think if you know jesus it makes you smarter martin. Yeah i mean you just think about it. I mean i think noah webster had a point when he said education is useless without the bible and he came up with our dictionary a main that was that was his point because really when fail went through the gospel while ago. And y'all applauded. Which i'm glad you did. You're thinking about how smart that makes you. If there's a way to get forgiveness for everything you've ever done wrong and then there's a way to live forever that you actually him participate in. And there's a way to have god's also empower inside of you to give you a purpose on this earth that pretty makes you that pretty well makes you the smartest person on the planet and dangerous. That's right you know that we had a alan to talk about these life changing moments because we all had that when we came to jesus but be an jesus field with life changing moments and one of them. Personally i had. I'm going to that part if we will we'd like to go. Is that when. I was part of an emergency landing on a plane. I noticed barely quickly that i was the most calm person on the plane because to me. Death is real. I'm not living in this delusion that i'm not gonna die. One day in fails famous line. You know he's like people living that delusion because they eat right and they work out and he'll he's always says you'll die healthy but we just always think it's not going to happen to me and so they are like the plane's going down and you know what happened mass chaos and i thought well. Okay here we go because if you believe this is real that's just part of it and it does make you dangerous and peter j said he when he talked about his physical death coming up. He alluded to it as a departure. Not a passing away exactly departure. There's a big difference. I mean we all think back to when we heard were introduced. Jesus and we're real careful about what we say that because a lot of people. This is just a book. What makes it so powerful as that. You're pointing people to the author that he orchestrated woven through history. I mean when i came to jesus the first thing i did is tried to get around this but the more i studied in the morality creation. I'm like no. I think i'm in on this it. Just the promises outweighed the alternative out in the world. But like i say we always had those those life changing moments and when you said it makes you dangerous. I was so scared of persecution. Because i was came to christ when i was fourteen and it was so difficult to live for jesus as a teenager because i went to a public school and everybody used filthy language. Everybody was leaving the girlfriend. Everybody was getting wrong. I mean i just had no church group in billing k. It started a little country church out where we reform but there it was small and nobody lived out there and so i didn't really have any christian friends and i just felt alone awkward. I mean but i knew this right. So i'll just my whole christian life for two years was just not doing wrong but most of you people that that read your bible. Well that's not what this is about that kind of comes with it but it's who you represent and the more i studied. The morale looked at this the more dangerous. I like when you said that. I became and i felt what. What am i doing sitting here being persecuted by a bunch of people who have no hope have no alternative have no purpose and so when i opened up and went public with jesus that twenty i started figuring it out because their response was so shocking so i came up with the three questions. You know what i got. I got three questions for reality. If you answer them better than i can. I'll go get drunk with you. Well that got everybody's attention on my. How did you get on the earth. They're all looking at each other mom which was funny. But i'm like how. Where did the life come from. What are we doing here. How are we leaving. How are we getting off the earth. Course you know what they said. Then he's crazy. Which made me dangerous and share this story in the speeches though that night. None of them responded to. Jesus they all thought i was crazy. They all thought. I was dangerous. But through the years whenever they hit bottom guess who they contacted. It always went back to that conversation because there was no alternative. There was no answers though. I saw a buddy of mine who showed up. We get him a backs backstage. Pass earlier we've told his story a couple times on the podcast. He was the guy who came over to the party house but he didn't realize the guy who lived there had had just come to jesus they came they saw vehicles out because we were studying with another guy and he's like. Hey what are y'all doing scaredy. Though he's like i'm not interested. He goes in the the next rame and starts playing video games and he just overheard what feel shared earlier about. Jesus about the author came out the guy we were studying with. We figured out his name while ago as we were talking about it he wasn't interested. And this guy. Evans said. I won't in on that and like an idiot. I fell in a what he's like. What you share. And so i thought in my mind i thought well. There's no way he can respond without a relationship. There's no way. So i started asking him. Well why do you want to respond. And then he just poured out of him on what he just heard about. God becoming flesh in jesus and he died from us enzi raise. I want i wanna go to heaven. I won't end on this online. Come on i'm here. We are how many years ago was that. Like a number on that. We have put in one of my books. Jc out me a conversion story. Put it one of my book. Some of you might read it but one day. The phone rang and the duck commander as when is answering the phone and and he said i need to order duck call in the process him ordering that duck hall. He used god's name in vain about five times the fifth. Time as i'm jotting down. You know where i'm going to send it now i said. Let me ask you a question. I said why do you keep cursing the only one who can save you from death. Give you immortality and he said you got my duck all coming. I said yeah on the way what ten minutes. Ten minutes goes back bone ranks. Yeah duck commander. He said hey he said. I never thought about that. I said well. I said i looked at. He's just written down. i said you from alabama. I said you know what y'all today i said. I'll make you a bet drive over here. It's about eight nine hour drive. I drive over here. And i'll tell you why you shouldn't be cursing god and he said well i might do that and i said we are to a week goes by knock on the door as they come in and i look over this dude steps in had another guy with him and he should. You know who i am. I said i don't believe i ever matchy. He said i was at guy. There's cursing god. I wanna know why shouldn't do it. I said you have come to the right place. Living room floor. I stole them about. Jesus walked down on the river when they said jesus lord i said i'm glad you drove by man. I said it's kind of interesting way to get you here. Said but the lord's got plans for you. The baptism. i said. Y'all wanna get some dry clothes you down. We all right. they left wet off toward alabama. Seventeen years goes by. I'm speaking at an engaged. A church in alabama. And i got over there some guy. I was eating a little meal with the preacher before the proceedings and some guy walked up he said robinson you remember that guy that on the phone that was cursing god and you call them out on it. As the memo said he was from alabama. He said he's one of the leaders of this church now. That's one many stories. I tell you but just get i'll tell you a lot of stories about conversions. There's been some wild and so many years was that we determined nine thousand nine hundred eighty and he's won best friends in the world years ago here today. Yeah that is go forth. We figured out how to phrase that. Because i said he came to jesus on accident but actually that would be dumb to say because god had a plan but he heard the message on what seemed to be an accident which i was thinking about that passage in romans. Ten which we're about to get to the podcast in verse fourteen. It said how then can they call on the one. They have not believed in. And how can they believe in the one in whom they have not heard. And how can they here without someone preaching to them. And how can they preach unless they are sent as it is written. How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news. And i think that's where we all know if we talk about living and unashamed life in. Christ that's what it is. I mean it's consistent and it's real and we live it and we breathe it and we talk about it in this part of who we are every single day. I think that's why you guys love the podcast is. It's just authentic real people who study and share the word of god and help people's lives. I told the guy earlier. I said my. I know they're after you. I mean all these corporations. They're trying to kill his business and ruined him. And all this. And i said but you. I realized something. Your sins were canceled on the cross. Cancel there and so nobody can cancel you now no matter what they try to do to your business and all that you keep standing up for jesus you ain't got to worry about any of your un cancelable if you're in grind so you don't have to worry about all that that's it. I think too when people you hear about sharing our hearts and say you know like i'm scared of the public and all but what i realized and all that and like washer that story you know my friend is that you realize in those moments that it's not about you. I mean i didn't know him. He just overheard. God's plan for his life and responded. Takes the pressure off of you made me think of second. Themes four in verse. Five it says for. We do not preach ourselves but jesus christ as lord in ourselves as servants regard. He said let light shine out of darkness. Made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of god in the face of christ and then i love verse seven but we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all surpassing power is from god and not from us. And so. that's what we do when the when you realize that. God uses flawed people to make known his son you conclude that he uses us all in our own ways the make. Jesus look great and trust me. The planet needs. It does so the part of the reason why we're able to be here with you guys today. But also this podcast is When when blaze approached us and gas and and said hey we'd like to podcast you know with fail. Initially because dad has a show on blaze in the woods with phil and it's basically just him living his life every single day and doing what he does and you get to kind of follow him around and see that and of course. There's going to be some good sermons in there too because that's what dad does right every day. And he tells us about podcasts. We didn't know much about podcast. We're kind of in that. Not quite the age range that really loves podcast and so is this like because a lot of their people on the platform or you know conservative political stuff. They said. we'll what do you want to do. what would we do. I said we'll just do bible. Do what you guys do. We do bible man. We're all over that. And so they've given us an opportunity. They basically have a roberson bible study and put it out there for the whole world. I'm so grateful that we get that opportunity bail to do that. I realize now as a kid growing up is that was describing earlier before we came out that when we were sitting around the dinner table or sitting in the living room at the house. We grew up in where dad. Mom's still are we were. That was the early beginnings of the unashamed podcast at loss. Because that's what we were doing and we all even knew as kids you know because my grandpa was there and my grandma and my cousins would come in. And when you got your opportunity to say something because i know people are always. Y'all interrupt each other all the time but that's the way we did it that's it doesn't we don't offend each other because if you've got a good point you gotta get in there make it. I mean i think when when he was saying about prep time for the podcast i was like. That's about five minutes now for that. Scares you off. I believe. I p two three fifty with all my heart which says always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have but do this with gentleness and respect and so really we've been prepared for this since i was fourteen right because we have spiritual conversations. We have bobble discussions sometimes arguments over things. That doesn't really matter. But i'm like if i'm right i'm right. You're wrong wrong buzz. All just because you believe your way is right. Doesn't mean that you're being wrong is going to change our relationship. I mean i think. That's i still love even but that's why it's okay. You know we get the big stuff right and you can have really passionate discussions and a lot of times. You'll notice on the puck as we don't agree but we agree on the big stuff. Which is that. It's about jesus and his grace. It's about to resurrection us. Been a forever family and you acknowledged that we're and we're sinful and if you all acknowledge that will sometimes you go and get it wrong. Though i think our churches this is my opinion but for the most part they just try to splinter off and get everything right and try to agree on every little thing. This is a big book. And you're never going to pull that off so it's not going to happen. So that's your goal. What happens is you see a lot of groups that don't like each other and they argue and they're not reaching out to the world introducing. Jesus which is what we should be doing. And that's easy to understand your the unashamed par jas one of the things. I would love to see happen now. I have this is quite thick. These sheets are quotes from your found. Founding fathers and man. listen to the way. The president's were talking back in the day when the country was founded. Here's george washington talking to somebody in a letter you do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life and above all the religion of jesus christ these will make you a greater and happier people than you are while we're jealously performing here something at the duties of good citizens and soldiers him being general. We certainly are not to be attentive to the higher duties of religion to the distinguished character of patriot. It should be our highest. Glory to add the more distinguished character of christian low george washington first president. But i think as people with they had people have bad religious experiences. I mean these men were were flawed. Yeah and which they work because we all are but when people go to the new testament and they re matthew maher luke. John which is what i encouraged to do at the end of the day. And you look at the character of jesus you will not find one thing wrong nothing. It's amazing people can have this bad religious experience or they you know they look at our past and say yeah but these were flogged men and look what they did but you when you challenge somebody to find the flow in jesus when they read it for themselves they think there's not one thing wrong with anything he ever did or said and he was always trying to do things for the better of other people and i think that's what our religious leaders and our political leaders back in the day realize that they're lie we won't these qualities we won't this character in our country and so we know what happened when you when you look at what happened to getting got out of the school what happened so did those quality a lot of those qualities left with it and so you're like well how come these kids are acting this way. 'cause you threw out god and the characteristics that make people also seeing. We're running a little low on people. His john adams suppose nation in some distant regions should take the babel for their only book and every member should regulate his under by the precepts their exhibited what a utopia what a para bass this reads it would be i examined all religions and the result is that the bible is the best book in the world. Second is ladies and gentlemen. We have drifted. We have drifted away from god to now. We're being chastise and called idiots. But we're what we're saying by quoting george washington and john adams and all the rest of them i mean it's it's a sad thing to watch and i hope there's a mass repented selling america's part before it's too late. I think there's people say we have so many complex issues going on today and you know it's going to take complex solutions but not really. Really forgiveness is the answer to what ails america if we can forgive for pass forgiven the present and forgive in the future because jesus and god forgave us then that makes us live totally different. So if you want to unite people you do it in forgiveness people that have been harmed and hurt and betrayed if they're able to say but you know we can move forward not what it does and it's not just those her outside of jesus you know a lot of are the people that came over out of religious freedom and started. This country then built a building and enslaved themselves for rule oriented. Christianity i'm not you came here to be free and now you locked yourself up with a few people in a building and our million miles away from god's grace and i think that's what i hope to be a part of and the podcast is that when you get the point of this you conclude that god is for you not against you. I shared because we were talking about the name of our podcast. And you know it comes from romans. One sixteen where paul said. I'm not ashamed of the gospel. It's a power salvation for everyone. Who believes i for the do them for gentle. That's everybody but enrollments four. He uses abraham as an example of our the father of our faith because he trusted and left his past and left his future by being willing to give up is it but in hebrews eleven. There's a. There's a little phrase there that i've been bringing up a lot because through the holy spirit. The hebrew rider says that god is not ashamed to call us sons and daughters in really. That's that's the way this works. We're not ashamed of him out there because despite our baggage and crap in our life god is not ashamed of us. That's why sent jesus and then you're back to this message of grace and to me. That's my motivation. For being out loud and proud is because he's out loud and proud for me and he proved it by what he did through history. Jesus well the as ernie miles us to say the clock on the wall says that's all we all. We are at a time for unashamed. Well thank in our be for hosting us and allow us to come to our podcast live. You guys are the first ones ever do see and unashamed. 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The Stephen King Boo! Club

24:13 min | 1 year ago

Episode 42B - Killer Klowns from Outer Space (B-Horror)

"Hello There Brooke Club listeners. Welcome to our bonus episode this week. Now if Y'all listened to our episode on the regulators you will know that Phoenix was not a fan phoenix on a scale of one to ten. How happy to that book make you. I was more upset about that book that I have been about anything in a long time. All right so we're GONNA call that like a six So I decided that part of the problem is that Phoenix does not have exposure to be horror which has a very different set of goals than What some people co Prestige Horror? What some people call elevated horror? I hate those terms but there is definitely a difference between horror that primarily wants to entertain and horror that primarily wants to tell a literary style story so we wanted to watch a movie. I wanted to watch a movie with Phoenix. That was deeply deeply under the category of just here for a good time. And that means that this week we are tackling. Which one do I shoot for killer clowns from Outer Space Hell yeah I'm so excited. This is maybe my first be horror non Stephen King movie. Yeah well come to. This is a great one to start with. Because it's not like it's bad. It's very bad but it's also not bad. You know what I mean. It was so watchable. Land WanNa stop now so the this is normally where we do a fairly structured kind of plot synopsis. This movie Is Not the point is how the point of this movie? I could break it down to its composites scenes but like you wouldn't actually know about the movie if I just told you what happened in the movie What you need to know. Some people are making out on lovers point. This is how the movie starts yet. Mike Tobacco in Debbie stone which are great names yes so good and to jackasses. Roll up in an ice cream truck with a clown thing on top Guess Their goal is to sell ice cream to the people fucking and then also themselves to Get laid up there. This is the opening scene in the movie Overlaid over top of it is like a bad eighties hair metal theme song about the killer clowns or married to space and by bad eighties. Hair metal. He means that absolutely amazing rock anthem. By the dicky's it's on the SEC. Playlist if you WANNA find it. Oh Hell yeah so. A Haley's comet appears to fly over we cut to an old man and his dog they and the old man is like Just an absolute caricature of like Rural Hick which is whatever it is He goes to find with combat landed. And there's just a giant big top circus Big Clown steals dog and turns him into a big thing cotton candy and then our protagonists Also end up there and find a bunch of scary cotton candy where their friends have been murdered in in them in the cotton candy because of a special cartoon guns said the giant clowns. Have you understand why this movie resists plot synopses? They tried to tell the. Try to tell this cop. Deputy my favorite character in this fucking movie. He did not believe them. No Deputy Muni is like fucking college kids in my town. Ruining my town is not how it should be. We should go back and he has like a another cop on the force is like a young cool guy the young cool guys Lanc now. They're just like college are okay and he like this town news. Talk Nice town. And then someone calls them and his like hey this killer clowns from outer space out here and he's like damn catch trying to pry thank thing on me. I'll buy alkaline from outer space and it. God it's just like the most exaggerated old guy doesn't believe the youths trope. Maybe possible like it. Wraps all the way around past self parody to become an entirely new thing? And he's my favorite and the actor was having a good time. A bunch of people die they end up in the killer clown layer trying to save The damsel in distress doesn't fucking matter. Listen will you need to understand? Is that a giant clown that's held up like marionette strings comes down and tries to fight the ice cream van and they kill it as the like. I. I don't Know My brand. Sorta leaking out of my head at a certain point. How does quicken's they they? When we say people die we mean they shrink them using hypnotic shadow puppets and shoot them with popcorn guns as their main two forms of murder. Yeah and they also have like ray guns that spin them into big cocoons full of what looks like cotton candy like the entire town. It is implied. Pretty much gets wiped off the face of the planet then to end this movie basically the cop the their noses or their weak points so cool young cop shoots joe the clowns in the nose which explodes him it also explodes the Ice Cream Truck. Which is where the same secondary protagonists the friends are but the the the cop and the friends all survive by hiding in the freezer of the ice cream truck So everyone ends up alive. And they look into the sky. As the world changes around them in the stars sparkle and then hundreds of pies start hitting them in the face and cut to black out. That's right they do end with a pie gag. Don't they godless move fucking rules so my favorite thing about this movie? I two favorite things plays and it's both casting related great One is you. Don't recognize much of this cast. That's not the point of this movie. Sound A star-struck cast but John Byrne who plays Deputy Mooney? He's Dean Wermer Alien House from site from animal health. Shit he is isn't he? And he's also the mayor in dirty Harry and Fletcher in the outlaw. Josey Wales so. It was very interesting to see him in a very different role. Yeah I'd say so And then also the final boss clown I guess yes. It's very much structured like a video game one hundred percent like this might be the world's first video game movie that was the director Charles. Couto no way. Yes I love that okay. So the reason this movie you might be thinking. Well Phoenix doesn't seem to hate this. So why is this a good pairing for the regulators? this movie. I think has widely the same goals that the regulator does which is like off the wall absurd not even just violence but like cartoonish. Slapstick violence a real disregard for a plot of a plot like it has the bare bones of what you need for a plot so that you don't get bored watching it. It is this close in imagine. I'm holding my fingers very close together because this is an audio medium. It is this close to being series of skits. It is not at all interested in subverting any expectation on the planet and most of its effort goes into making interesting and weird monsters. That is what this movie is interested in. How can we make some weird clowns that look unnerving and do strange things and it Buchan succeeds? And I think that's why that gets to the heart of why I enjoy this and not the regulators is because this movie is only interesting. Visually the to register never directed anything else in their life. Were well known special effects artists and but had the regulators Ben a Kyoto brothers film. I think it would have worked Because it would have been purely visual you know a ecstatic vision of a thing. Instead of a description of the thing this would not work as a book. It would suck. But it's true now I do want to ask. Were there any points in this movie where you felt fear? Actually that's a good question because I certainly laughed It's a more effective comedy that it is a horror. Yeah and it certainly more interested in a lot of ways and being comedy but there were. I WanNa say three points where I was like. Oh no where. In spite of everything being hokey there was something about the imagery. And the setup worked for me so first of all you have discount Pennywise seeing where everyone's at like the Burger joint and a little girl sees a big clown outside and decides to try to go join that clown like that's just an effective scene no matter what. Because there's something inherently scary about that. That scene worked for me. As being legitimately unnerving. There's a scene so the the COP. That's I don't believe kites ends up getting murdered like like in a different way from most. Young Cup goes back to the station after old cop has been got by one of the killer clowns and the killer clown is holding him in his lap. Like a big ventriloquist's dummy and that worked for me. I was like uh-huh uh-huh and then when big scary zillow clan showed up the monster design on that was just so good that in spite of the entire run time before the big monster clown touching down I was like. I don't like that ooh spooky. Oh and that was just raw monster design. Yeah that was key. Just from the way their lips move alone. Guess Practical Effects Baby? 'cause they're they're very physical basically puppets their full body puppets and so when there is in lips move. It's like it's not. It's not. How a person's would but your brain tries to process it as if it is and it's act so which just shows you know that they're special effects artists not horror writers and they played to their strengths and didn't try to play other people's which is why the movie worked in his wife It's a cult. Classic THAT RECEIVED. Pretty okay reviews. The sequel has been development hell since the eighties and they're still trying Which I you know. The problem is that I don't think it would work now. I don't think it would work now because we're post irony. The thing that works about this movie is it. It's a hundred percent ernest about nope. This is what we're doing. We know that it's dumb. We know that it's campy but we're GONNA one hundred percent commit. There is no point in this movie where someone turns the camera. And he's like well. That's not like a clown. I'm used to seeing and like wink at the camera. And like there's no avengers. Let's go get Schwa- moment. That movie exists in its universe and refuses to play by any other rules even though the rules. That's chosen for itself. Are Buck Bananas. I also people are bored with postmodernism. Second Way to nar the aboard the irony of postmodernism. But the idea of a movie that so bad good Doesn't work anymore. If it's not also good yes like also like the pieces. The individual blocks you're using to build it have to also be quality otherwise it's just a youtube video interesting like this hot take. I'll get I'll get a little more deeper into that. So postponed martyrism which is kind of the era where now is self Referential and Ironic but also extremely high quality. You can point like M. I by that. I mean high-quality cinematography high-quality acting high-quality special effects. You can point to like Netflix's series Swiss army man Swiss army man. Exactly the Christmas princess movies. That are netflix originals. Things like that. That aren't meant to be a good per se but they are still extremely high production. Actually think of this in a different way than you do and even more cynical way so I'm interested in what you think of this. I actually think that if anything that is less that we've escaped postmodernism as much as we have like disappeared up. Our own assholes. Took quote Kurt Vonnegut. Because to me of course to quote Kurt Vonnegut. That's really the only way to set up a town of postmodernism. Take Martha's and you have to start with before the thought escapes my brain. I'm GonNa see if I can articulate it. Well we're still laughing at punching down at the idea of bad media when we make weird media on purpose but I think it's also kind of insecure to not allow yourself to have any rough edges while doing it. It's kind of away in my opinion and I really I will say I have a lot of distaste for modern quote unquote B. Movies. That do this where you you shelter everything you've done in high production value and you laugh at the idea of bad cinema while protecting yourself from any criticism thereof by having very high production value. This movie killer on some outer space was not afraid of being laughed at because it didn't give a shit but something like Swiss army man. Something like these. Kind of like winkle nudge. Isn't this movie bad movies? It's like taking an ugly selfie because you're afraid of looking ugly ugly wise. It's the if I make this bad. It can't be bad on its own merits. It's bad because oops I I. I'm get it. I'm ugly I think it comes down to a problem on the other side of that. I guess to defend postal modernism. I hate that this is what we're doing. We can't have a conversation about killer clowns outer space without defending those postmodernism. What happened to us? What have ever I think what it comes down to is how people consume media is so insanely different. That there's no room for something. That's low quality low production value in the world. Be Anything because like I mentioned if you're if you are going to consume something that is not high quality but is still valuable. You'RE GONNA do it on Youtube or instagram. You'RE GONNA GO WATCH GUS Johnson video. I can't name youtubers. I've never watched you too. But you can't like you go to those specific kinds of sites or watch like it's a different market it's a different market and you'd get it for. Free. You're not going to pay to go see schlock. You can have schlaug four free billions literally not millions billions of schlocky videos exist on the Internet including full length. Schlocky films for free. I'M GONNA YOU'RE GONNA pay for some Shit I'M GONNA be. I'm GonNa flip something by here. I WanNa see if you agree or disagree. So I don't know that pulp will ever die because you know people are going to keep making bad media that is ernest until the end of time. I just think that where you find. It is different so I don't know that is one hundred percent agree with your youtube thing because that site has become more and more curated over time. But I'm going to float to to places where I guarantee you. You can find be horror and in written form. Noah's one fan fiction forums Hallelujah to creepy pasta the Amazon Bookstore Amazon Bookstore. It's that's almost a level below schlock like I think of a B. movie as being B B to the a which is really good. I think Amazon horror and certain other kinds of Amazon. Anything is is de now. I will say this because I know that lots of people self publish an Amazon in are quite good us included or don't know literal every podcast is self publishing. So don't get it twisted. We're not saying I read for fun. I buy your stuff I do. Yeah but there's a degree of risk involved. I think this is one of the joys of be horror is that there is always the chance that you'll get something unenjoyable but it's GonNa Swing for the fences and I think if that earnestness that makes be horror enjoyable and is why I could enjoy the regulators because you know like it doesn't succeed but God damn if it's not swinging for the fences. I think my problem with the regulators and another problem killer clowns did not have killer. Clowns was consistent true every part of it was what was was the same yeah warts. The regulators was big chunks of fairly readable and then five two page systems that I couldn't get past and maybe that's me probable but maybe it's that I don't want to drink a can of coke with five drops a pissing it. You know what I mean. This is where the interest is anyone in by coke. Not anyone can find coke with exactly five drops a piss in it but the killer clouds was a cope with with five drops. A cotton candy in it. It didn't make sense. But who gives a shit? So there's there's good bad and there's bad bad and I think the bad bad ruin the regulators for me whereas the good bad is what makes killer clowns it is. It's an identity as part of its identity as opposed to something that you ignore to get to the identity I'm into that I also think that man no you know. I don't have any thoughts left in my brain. I can't believe we brought all of this decor outerspace us so differently than we thought. We thought we were going to sit down and have a chuckle over like Like this scene was goofy. And wasn't it funny when that person's head exploded or whatever and instead we quoted von again and I'm a little upset at us. I'm a little mad. I don't know what happened to us. I tell you. What if you WANNA lighter episode ten minutes before this we recorded episode on Rosemary's Baby? You donate two dollars. Patriot? You can go to our Rosemary's baby episode and that somehow ended up being lighter than our killer. Clowns matters less less critical commentary deeply upsetting a man. I want to do good bad and ugly just a quick little popcorn lightning round in terms of like thing that worked for you thing. That didn't work for you. Think that you would like for this movie because God damn if I don't have one light fluffy thing in this episode for me the good Definitely the old cop. Who's I ride are gauge these days? He was my favorite. I'm going to think about him every day until I die. Amana print out a picture of him and put it on my desk Bad for me. Definitely some like why. There's like a lot of objectification of women like a lot and not in the fund way like making fun of Baywatch and bouncing like this is a fine thing to have and that's part of the DNA of Schlaug is that it's like this is where you go to get your weird monsters and for some reason you're soft pornography so I that's an we can't crack but like that was an app for me The ugly the like weird thing is I realized about twenty minutes in that the clowns speak in a language that is very much just the language that the minions speaking from despicable me. It's the same language like every and compare them clip by clip. We can't be the only people that have seen this That was my ugly. Go go find in fact you know what I'll do a side by side comparison right here out so killer. Clowns from Outer Space Minion language. The same question. Mark it's rate on Google. Oh my God dude. I'm telling you what's the truth? Okay I'll I'll good bad and ugly. Good the popcorn gun worked for me. Right Watt One I thought that was extremely clever. Also fun fact. It's the most expensive part of the entire movie. Was Making Papa. That's hysterical bad. I did not care for the part where they use a crazy straw to drink the liquefied blood saying Oh. I didn't care about that that was completely neutral for me. I live about straws. Draws in my date is eaten it. I would have been fine with it but the straw part gets haven't ugly the whole opening sequence that it took Stephen. Four to describe happens in thirty minutes John the movie. The pacing is so senseless that it's almost like a couple of special effects. Creators tried to make a low budget holder. How upset eating would If they knew that we were comparing this piece to post modernist criticism. I be so Chong I think they would be like look of interviews with them. They're like very cheated. Johnny I love it. Well thank you for indulging me. If you want to watch this movie you can watch it for free on Youtube. Right now with ads. Which is what I did. It's a great stupid way to spend like an afternoon mix popcorn. Do some knitting talk to friends. Like watching with a buddy good dumb movie for good dumb time. That's the end of our episode and we hope you'll enjoy join us next week when we're GonNa talk about the first half a bag of bones which I am so far thoroughly enjoying. Please go read bag of bones in the meantime. This has been lovely. Thank you for joining us but bye bye.

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(Ep6) Leaving Neverland and The "S" Words

Madness2Magic

55:44 min | 2 years ago

(Ep6) Leaving Neverland and The "S" Words

"<music> hi and welcome welcome to manage to magic and my podcast. I'm with crazy a love story. I'm your host paulina milana author of the s. word this show is for for those of us find ourselves surrounded by madness and wanting to find the magic within. We're going to come together here as caregivers to those who who have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Maybe it's someone in the family we've been born into. Maybe it's someone we love. Maybe it's someone we work with. Maybe even it's ourselves whether we've been thrust into this caregiver role or taken on by choice. This podcast is where we're going to share our stories and and learned to realize the magic and all the man. We may have been experiencing. I promise you it can be done so let's get to it <music>. Hi everyone thanks for joining me again. Today's podcast is one. I'm i'm feeling compelled to do. I hadn't planned on doing a podcast on this particular topic that of sexual predators and sex abuse and for some of you you may wonder what this has to do with mental illness and caregiving and to that. I'll give a simple answer a lot. I i hope you'll stick with me as i explain what's on my mind and in my heart rate now having just watched for the second time the h._b._o. Documentary leaving being neverland. I'm not sure if you listeners have seen it but if you have or if you plan to i can promise it will change your perspective on on so many things the reason i'm talking about it. Today is because secrets suffocate that's in part what leaving never orlando revealed and it's what my book the s. word is about the s. Word is a memoir more about secrets but the reason i called my book. The s. word is because of everything involved in keeping those secrets and just so happen in the writing of the book that i realized that so much of what my story was about included words that begin with the letter s so yes it's about schizophrenia and yes it's about growing up sicilian and yes it's about <music> out shame and stigma and seduction and sacks watching leaving neverland brought back for me the very same mhm swirl of emotions that i experienced and made me realize that a i wasn't alone be what i went through isn't exclusive to culture or gender or status see that the people involved everyone involved has both both good and bad in them both predator and prey and it can be at the same time d. that what i had gone and through and felt and still feel today is normal and that it's not over. Maybe it'll never be over and then finally really that. It wasn't my fault now. I'm sure you're wondering what it is. If you've read my book you might have a sense of what i'm referring to if not let me set the stage so my family was struggling when i was growing up my mom's undiagnosed mental illness was taking its toll physically emotionally financially on all of us. We kept it all a secret. What happened in the family stayed in the family sicilians. Call it costra but we took it to the extremes. I was thirteen years old when i forged my birth certificate to get a job at the local donuts store. The year was one thousand nine hundred seventy eight. The internet didn't exist no social media. No cell phones actually had the donut shop where i worked. We didn't even have a phone. I mean i mean we did. There was a push button phone on the wall but the owners had disabled it so that you couldn't call out so it really wasn't much of a phone at all unless you're clever enough to know how to make it work another way and if there's one thing that i have been that i pride myself at being clever people have said that i am resourceful but i'm clever and resourceful because as i learned throughout my life how to be in order to survive no matter what so when i was working at a donut shop late one friday night all alone with just the radio to keep me company i retreated into a world of my own where it was safe to sing out loud odin dance and just be me at the time i remember singing and dancing to songs like i wanna kiss you all over and hot child child in the city. I was a teenager becoming more and more sexually aware i thought about the cute boys in my class as well as the hot dads <music> whose kids i babysat the sexy teachers and even our young priest about whom i fantasized when i went to church it was my time to be age appropriate and not have to think about caregiving or the madness that awaited me when and i got home all the more ironic than for mental illness to come find me during that fateful friday night i remember i was singing and dancing to an all time favorite band sticks. They had just come out. I think with grand delusion sticks sticks with the first live concert i ever went to my brother. Rosario and my older sister actually took me to see them. The rosemont horizon for my twelfth birthday we sat on the main floor in folding chairs and i got to stand on that chair and sing as loud as i wanted wanted to shake my behind and just go crazy all the things. My mother wouldn't have approved up. She had thought that i was <hes> sexually promiscuous and who knows what else i think that's why i loved the band sticks so much. The concert was my very first and was very the one of the few times in my life up until that point when i could enjoy being a normal or at least what i thought normal was. That's why i think i made sure always to sing out. Loud whenever ristic tune came on and that's exactly what i was doing when i was all alone at that donut shop at the age of thirteen that song came man the radio and i was belting out my best version of sticks is fooling yourself and there's this whole part you know blow blow-by-blow and i just remember at the top of my lungs. I'm singing matt and i i turn around and there's a guy who enters in and this man came out of nowhere. There's no car in the parking lot no headlights in the in the glass windows that would signal a patron arriving. I don't even remember you know the the door to the <hes> donut shop had these little tinkling bells on attached to it survey time. You'd open it up. They would kind of tinkle. You know sorta like the it's a wonderful life. Clarence bells angels everytime a bell rings that kind of thing. That's always what i would think of when i would hear them but this time there was nothing thing didn't hear a thing. Maybe i missed it because i was singing in my own world. All i know is that i simply turned around and he was is there was pacing back and forth back and forth back and forth the entire length of the shop only his his pacing was more a shuffle and the only thing between me and the man was the counter i remember for a moment i was completely paralysed. I was fear just completely took me over and at that moment that man stopped and he turned and faced me and we just stared at each other i he it was just like a blank blank face. He was older older than my papa so we're talking talking. I don't know at that point. I don't even know fifty sixty somewhere around. There are older than sixty. I'd say maybe a little younger. He was fatter pretty rotund. He was taller. He was a big guy. I'm definitely a good six inches at least taller than i was and it's passable. Maybe you know that i saw him is so big because i was so vary alone in small bomb than i remember. His hair was wispy. It was like standing straight up permanent state state of attention every strand though was saluting its own captain going this way and that it was already already gray. Excuse me kind of matched what i remember. His tee-shirt was it was. Maybe maybe maybe used to be white but it was great. It was stained with remnants of meals from days gone by maybe he sported these <hes> pajama bottoms and they were nearly worn through. They were kind of like faded blue stripes and i remember on his feet. He had these like tattered brown. Brown slippers <hes> very bizarre since outside. It was slushy grey snow that was on the ground. It was cold <hes> winner <hes> when he came through a he reminded me of <hes> used washrag <hes> even his pajama bottoms were all et soaked through from having walked. I'm assuming through the snow. I had found my voice and stammered out. Can i help you and that started him shuffling pacing back and forth again it was then that i noticed his response. He had a hospital respond and immediately. I thought to myself i i. I know what i'm looking at here. I was still very much afraid but a strange sense of comfort almost came over me. I thought i've been here before with my mom. I and i knew what i needed to. I needed to get help now. As i told you earlier. The phone had been disabled in the place but i knew you clever me. I knew how to make it work so i dialed nine one one by depressing the switch hook and that's that part part of the phone for those of you who only use cellphones the part of the phone where the headpiece <hes> sits on it. That's how you hang up a phone a traditional traditional phone and if you click that <hes> very fast according to the <hes> the number you're trying to dial so if you're dialing nine you click it nine times really fast then one then one the call will through and that's exactly what i did and it did it went went through and moments later. Two officers show up and they introduce themselves now. I'm changing the names <hes> and this full the story and how it unfolds is part of my book the s. word but the two guys there was officer james brown and officer tim geithner and they were both kind of the same age. I don't know i don't know if i realized it right at the moment that i saw them but they were late. Thirties thirties early forties officer brown was <hes> black african american and his uniform showed off every muscle officer gagner was taller. He was much more slender equally muscular <hes> and he had like strawberry blonde hair the bluest of is he had this cheshire cat like smile and swagger of kinda. I've been around the block and i carry a gun. He he reminded me <hes> of clint eastwood and i love clint eastwood my pine i would regularly sit up late late nights to watch his movies <hes> especially the westerns the man with no name that was papa's favorite i my favorite was the outlaw outlaw josey wales but this guy just boom <hes> made me think of clinic swim and i watched as is the two officers kind of took charge they asked me about the donut. Shopowner had to get a hold of him. I had no clue soon after officer brown. He was kind of <hes> tending to the to the guy who had come in <hes> with the hospital bracelet and they'd called for an ambulance. I think and i saw officer gunner brush some hair off his shirt sleeve and he put his hand hand over the receiver. I think he was talking. I don't even know who is talking to but i remember him talking putting his hand over the receiver turning me and he whispered that he was single a couple of cats. I nodded. I liked cats too. It was just a. I don't know silly thing that i remember and governor and brown. They were asking the man questions. They weren't getting any answers. They they put handcuffs on him. The man never said a word he just kind of kept rocking back and forth after a while the ambulance came took him away officer brown went with but officer gunner stayed behind and i'm saying never gave another thought officer brown or to the man man who's taken away my thoughts were instantly consumed with officer gunner who for the first of what would be many times over the course of a year sat himself down on the first pink stool in front of the curved white counter and ordered a coffee black with two sugars any order to strawberry iced raised dona. I remember thinking to myself. This was funny and i i remember laughing. He had asked why it was so funny. I just said nothing and asked if it was to go. I think the reason i found it so funny was here is this you know big kinda cop and he's having the same donut that like a little kid would <hes> would order right the ones that like like the parents picked out the dozen donuts after church and that's what they wanted you know the the the donuts that were strawberry iced or sprinkled or you know the kid donuts so anyway hindsight had been paying attention. I might have connected the dots <hes> but didn't when i asked him if he wanted to go i remember he said no. I think i'll have it here with you. And there was a deliberateness to his to his responses i served in the dona plate and <hes> and i remember because like nobody he kind of really came in the coffee had been on for a long time so i said you know make a fresh pot. I head was like pulling the the basket out of the coffee maker and i casually kinda turned you know to him and said you know if you want. I mean because then i'm thinking wait you know maybe he's fine with this coffee. He's he's a cop at assume that he drinks you know old coffee the time and so i said you know if you want officer gunner and i remember he paused and gave me this look that wo- just unsettled told me and he said two simple words i want and they're innocent words right i want i want wii. I want but that whole look and the tone it made me turn away and blush and so i kept my back to him. It was brewing the fresh coffee and he said to me. Hey you know it's it's just gone. Are you can call me gunner. What's your name and i answered him. I don't even think i turn around. I just said mama names paolina but people call me paula because it's easier which all that's true and he came back and said well powell lena and he emphasized the the pronunciation my word powell lena. This is the best donut ever created <hes> so good and he like exaggerated. <hes> high was eating it. I mean gene by had to pick one word to be devoured that donut and he said you know strawberries whereas favorite he was like exuberant like looking his fingers clean. It was licking his lips. I just it was. I know it sounds it sounds odd but the that visual just all of it just the whole first time meeting him just sticks in my mind so anyway flats thoughts feelings raging through me. <hes> i the best way to describe it. I was a nerve day. I've i used the word jumbos <hes> before you know when i was a kid i used to say you know he gives me. The jumbo leaves <hes> for officer gunner owner. It was that and then some so i quickly grabbed an empty coffee cup. I put it under the flowing stream team of coffee. I'm not even waiting for it to be totally done. I give him the sugar. Spoon everything that you know you're supposed to do then. I stepped back and i realized that was like stepping back as far as i could. <hes> there's a refrigerator there and not necessarily sure why but every part of me as much which is i was forcing myself back. Every part of me wanted to cross the counter that i remember and i i said something really kind of what i thought was professionally <hes> adult. I was kind of like well if you if you like strawberry donuts not we've got strawberry. Jelly filled donuts <hes>. I just said some stupid stuff. He laughed drank and then he started asking questions about if i was here by myself <hes> late night always he said you know other kind of questions about my schedule. I i answered and you know nothing. Nothing totally unusual. I i remember though at that point <hes> pretty quickly. I saw over his shoulder <hes> a car headlights. <hes> it happened to be my papa. He would come and get me at the end of the night he would signal don't signal my dad three times like flashing the lights so that i knew that he was there that it was him so i kind of pointed out the window and instead all that's my father <hes> usually he sits with me <hes> but in a lately hasn't been able to that kind of conversation so oh my dad comes in and i just kind of i i remember just being really nervous and like blabbering and i don't remember what else other than the feelings and it comes in and usually he sat in the very same seat that you you know gunner was now occupying. My dad didn't think anything of it sat in the one right next to him. Leaned over gave me a kiss. My dad always would say how's is my baby girl. I loved that honestly to feel like i was cared for by somebody so you know his. His child has baby girl sorta like the george bailey. It's wanna flav zuzu. <hes> i just i always felt safe safe and i'm this night with him coming in and saying that as much as i know i was a little bit embarrassed because officer goner. I also really needed to hear that and i think i think maybe needed him to hear that so anyway. So i introduce my father tops. Our governor and gunnar extends his hand then he he says again you know nice to meet powell lena's father and he said something about you have a very adult daughter going into kind of a little bit of what had happened happened. <hes> my dad you know english was not his first language so he really didn't understand a lot of the conversation. I didn't understand you know adult. What is he saying kind of thing. <hes> just a big question mark on my dad's <hes> head or face ace and and my father remember in his broken english he thanked him. You know thank you fish out. He called the officers officers goofy giles and he said something like you know. I know she's so smart and then he was kinda like going into his apologies why he couldn't be there. <hes> and you know his own work the family cetera and you're gonna sit him. You know what's your name. My father told him antonio tony and he said okay. Call me tim. I mean just a back and forth kind of <hes> the adults talking and he said you know that if if he wanted my father wanted <hes> he could drive by there <hes> every night he could stop in and keep an eye out on our girl. I know he called me that on our girl here every night and and you know then he was kinda like turn me and saying that and you can start to teach me how to speak italian because during the conversation i had said some things my father to translate an italian and and <hes> and my dad again was like what is he talking about <hes> he was kind of talk and fast and i i was thankful that my dad kind of didn't know english as much as i was wishing that he was a little more <hes> on top of it you know so anyway at the end of the day really when i think back on it it was that moment when <hes> when governor offers to common keep an eye out on our girl and stay with me in place of my dad and my dad is so grateful for it <hes> because here here's a police officer authority figure <hes> who who you know you trust will we'll do the right thing and protect right and so my father said yes. Yes please. You know if you could come. Stay with her so you you know hindsight twenty twenty that pretty much was official permission for governor to keep his eyes on me and again. I'm you know i'm i'm. I know i'm thirteen at this point. Turns out gunner was thirty nine at this point and at that point it. It excited me as much as kind of scared me. I i remember thinking to myself <hes> okay. I you know i'm damsel. In distress you know the the girl with the heart of gold. She can take care of herself. She can fight back all goes but sometimes you know you get in a little a little bit over your head and you need garner to swoop in and rescue you know in my mind like in my thirteen year old mine all of this kind of fantasy fantasy going on in part because one of my favorite favorite movies even to this day is the very first rocky movie and if you remember <hes> there's a scene <hes> where rocky and adrian are alone remember. She's a shy kind of <hes> a plain spinster kind of person and they're alone in his apartment and he corners her. He's wearing just his wife. If beater under shirt he raises his arms hangs them from whatever it was a pipe from the ceiling and his entire being is like threatening threatening to swallow her up and she's kind of backing up and he says i wanna kiss you. You don't have to kiss me back if you don't feel like it but you know that's when they're i you know <hes> sexual encounter <hes> happens and i remember i know i was only what ah eleven i think when i saw the first rocky but when i saw it i i wanted to feel what adrian felt felt <hes> and here with gunnar i was feeling those same feelings i had never before really felt something like this for or grown up man <hes> and never felt it like a first time i felt something like that was rocky right so rocky watching him that whole kind of adrian being taken quote unquote <hes> and how she was completely changed afterward right so afterward jazz new hair new clothes new attitude attitude everything's changed for the better and and in watching the movie so too was i and then you know i just fantasy land. I i thought that being taken and being better is always kind of how it worked <hes> but again that's fantasy and didn't know any better at that age so anyway you know gone are being thirty nine. He should've known and <hes> sunny how for months after that governor would come sit with me at the donut shop just him and i alone for hours talking gene and he felt super-safe <hes> super you know we were on par <hes> friends <hes> confidence and <hes> and at the same time he felt super dangerous so one night i'd been in the back room and i don't know i was doing something i i remember hearing those angel bell angel bells on the door <hes> ringing announcing somebody's arrival and i had barely crossed the threshold from like the back room to the front <hes> room where people oh come in and suddenly i stopped because there was governor and the difference here was gunner was just standing there and not not sitting in his usual pink stool at the counter not even waiting on the other side of the counter right where people come come in and sit he had crossed the threshold to where <hes> you know in the way of the cash register is the coffeemaker is where the we're the low boy like glass case with the donuts are and he was he was just standing there behind the front counter just inches for me and my side of the counter and i remember thinking immediately while you crossed crossed a line that that's a line you never crossed before and he said do me a favor would you and that's how it all started. That's how our relationship kind of crossed over a line so i remember he wasn't even really looking at me. He he was so nonchalant about it. <hes> and all those warning voices in my head like hey. There's something wrong with this or or you know off. Donna danger will robinson kind of thing i think because he was so flipping so nonchalant like it was no big deal. I thought to myself you know what this is. You're you're silly. Thirteen year old fantasy brain kinda gone off. This is nothing this normal. You're just not normal so then <hes> as i was watching governor started pulling links of scotch tape from the dispenser so we had you know scotch tape kind of dispenser <hes> it's the one that kinda you just pull the tape when you box up the donuts and seals it and he was just kind of acting like he belonged there. He was in my space where i worked uninvited. He i remember even grabbed like one of the strawberry ice doughnuts that we love so much with his hand from the display rack stuffing it into his mouth with one hand like pretty much swallowing it whole like again again like oh exaggerating like it was kind of fun and games and excuse me while i while i didn't know exactly exactly what to say. I didn't know that he was somewhere where he didn't belong at that moment. So he took those long strips of tape each one he like pulled it out like a foot long and he started lining them up up against the top edge of the glass counter and they were just like dangling like the the streamers the hang off the olden day handlebars of a bicycle right at least these to do that when i was little and he just kept pulling those long strips of tape and lining them up on the counter and i pretty much just watched kinda mesmerized paralyzed not quite sure <hes> just not quite sure of what was going on then he walked himself backward continuing to make himself at home <hes> actually pulled out a mug poured himself a cup of coffee <hes> he comes back and i i think he put some sugar like just again just as if it was a normal kind of thing and then he he returned to his task at hand with the tape and he didn't ask he just reached out to me he took both my hands in his is he lifted my arms bending them at the elbows and positioned my hands in front of his chest as if almost says if <hes> like he'd be placing handcuffs around my wrists and with one of his hands holding one outstretched l. stretch of mine he took those long strips of tape sticky side up and he began rapping them over and over my hands from the tips of my fingers to the base of my palms so he didn't give me a chance task what he was doing. The look on my face must have been clear enough to ask the question and he said i need your help in in getting rid of the evidence. That's what he said. He was smiling. He was kinda puffing up his chest when he said it and that's that's what he called it the evidence now. I knew that governor had cats. He'd told me <hes> are. I like meeting. I'm pretty much and even if he hadn't told me i do remember the number of times he would come into the shop he had like cat here visible on his uniform and you know anybody who was paying attention knew that he had cat hair that covered him so again in my mind mine. I'm like okay. I guess whatever's going on here is legit so relaxed. A little and gunner said something like he just needed a friend to help him brush off all the hair. He didn't notice how bad it was until he got in there her under the lights. Actually you may not even said that. I think i think honestly that's what i was kind of justifying in my head but but anyway he pulled me up by my waste a little closer to him and both my hands now we're fully wrapped <hes> in the tape like mummies sticky side died up and i just remember thinking you know. I should say something like you know. The cats got my tongue or and which is sounding stupid right now but i remember thinking i why can i say something <hes> anyway so placed my taped pans palm side down onto his chest and his hands were guiding mine and and he began to use me to stroke him now. It was the first time i had ever had my hands on a guy's chest. Let alone anywhere else not even my papa or my brother. Had i ever touched anywhere near like this and it was the first time i'd really even touched gun or anywhere other than maybe his arm or something like even accidentally rate handing cup of coffee or something <hes> now oh he had always given me the jumbo lease and this this again took it to a whole different level and and i remember him looking at me and just continuing to like stroke his body with my hands and he said this is what happens when you love your cats and then you know it dawns on me that the tape covering my hands is pulling up the for right and <hes> and so again. There's a teeny bit of okay all right i get it. This is normal and then he said thank you for helping me with my pussy problem now to be honest. I have no clue if back then i. I knew what that word meant. Maybe i did i. I really don't know whether i did or didn't i can't even even be certain that it would have mattered <hes> now for any other reason than i am not sure honestly that i was kind of putting two two two two two and two together and just equating all of this with me or or what it or or the dance we were dancing or <hes> or i don't know i really honestly looking back. I don't i don't know <hes> so anyway. Garner restrung the tape. He wrapped my hands. He pressed them then dragged them all over his chest his arms his thighs is his back his buttocks. <hes> and i just let him i a you know he kept he kept wants the tape scott full of cat hair he just kept re re applying and i just kept you following his lead stroking him all over right there right there in the donut shop so my hands uh-huh were at his mercy so was my mind obviously and obviously he taught me how to stroke nearly every inch of his entire body under the guise of ridding him of cat hair clever. Honestly i don't even think it lasts that long just long enough to do the job long enough to actually plant seeds of seduction desire and <hes> <hes> doubt you know kind of making this seem normal but maybe it wasn't and then doubting that i thought that it wasn't normal so all that said honestly i was super excited needed over all of it. <hes> i do remember my hands pressing against him the feel of his muscles what i was actually touching touching i i remember all of that. <hes> i knew too that you know physically for me without me being touched there were things going on in my own body and you know i i could feel myself just kind of being swept up and totally out of control and having no clue what i was doing but in so many ways like on board with it so as the time <music> i'm went on in this game of sexual innuendo flirting got more and more tangled up with this image of him as a. I protector my friend. Another father figure is all of that just kind of like swirled and got mashed up together gather i just i felt more and more on easy. It was just weird and even when gunner would come in and like flirt with others there. Was this whole pang of jealousy that came into it so anyway. Gunners fortieth birthday was coming up. Excuse me in the more he talked about it and the more he went on not about what he wanted for his birthday he would say i'm looking for something special for days leading up i want something special and the more he said that the more kind of the fear started to take hold now joke jokes we have our we had a don't that we would call the today's special and you know as much as you want to think okay. Maybe he's talking about a donut. He's not right so i the thought to myself. I need to need to be smart here and have a plan so like i said i was you know clever. <hes> <hes> and i remember governor just telling me how much he loved fleetwood back and so i thought okay fleetwood mac had just come out with <hes> an album called tusk and i thought all right i i have i can afford that. I'll buy that <hes> and then as the kind of funny you know something special. I thought i would give him that with a today's special donut with a candle ta you know done and then i went to like a card shop and i was kind of like i need a card that says happy birthday and is you know platonic like you know brings everything back to <hes> to earth to be honest and divine inspiration <hes> i find signed this card and on the front it had this big fat sugary jelly filled doughnut and the words on the front said turning forty is like a jelly donut and then you open it and the jelly donut has been <hes>. It's got a bite taken out of it and and it's using with jelly now there's crumbs all around and the inside of the card says the best part is in the middle and and i thought excellent this is pat. Turn this from. Maybe not so normal scenario. That's let's that's going on to something very very normal so i thought here's a message from god right. I'm not going to be abandoned. Lend he's with me. This go fine. I'm just gonna give them the gift. Here's your something special and we're done with. It have a tickle in my my throat so i remember that he was coming in for his birthday and i thought everything's gonna be fine all even sing happy birthday and i'm not sure if i really believed everything was going to be fine but anyway he comes in that night he immediately steps behind the counter and again more along and this time i was really afraid <hes> just really afraid and he he did again what he had come to do. Pulling the tape from the dispenser his smile his his line as he would tape my hands up. <hes> you know help me solve my pussy problem kind of thing and i i remember that i was kinda like wait this okay i had i had images of rocky in my head. I had the images of what this should should be in feel like and it didn't tonight. I was like wait this is this is connor and then the more that i looked at him the more i was like wait this. I'm seeing something else. In this governor and i kept retreating. He kept advancing thing until i couldn't back up any further so i never told anyone what what happened on that first night and actually after garner left after it was over my father came in and to come and collect me as normally would happen and i waited for my dad to like notice notice me surely he could see what had just happened. See that. I was different c. c. Something and instead my dad was so focused on what was going on with my mom and everything he actually unknowingly added insult to injury because he had come up with a plan press to commit my mom to a psych ward she had gotten so bad and we needed like a an enforcer to trick her and tell her that he was there to help her protect her from us and so my dad decided that governor would be perfect for him and he asked me begged me to ask honor to help l. pimm commit our mom to the psych ward so that point any thought of telling my dad just immediately. He disappeared now much later on. I i told her i tried to tell my brother and i remember he responded with something like so what the guy did did you and immediately. I dropped that conversation. I know neither meant anything <hes> but silence silence is a choice and sometimes it's the only choice <hes> at the time you don't even realize what it is doing to you but you do know or you or you assume what toweling will end up doing and that would have been a disaster so after a decade or more of therapy and another decade kaid of writing my memoir the s. word i did put pen to paper and shared what happened with gunnar and it's funny because somewhere inside me ever since come to this day there still exists that shame the blame the thought that you know all along. Hey looking back. I kind of knew what was going on right have to take some ownership here. The thought that it was my fault at least in part no i knew intellectually. He was the adult right. He's he's forty years old tamai. I think at that time i was actually fourteen <hes> and that it was wrong right but that didn't stop me from watching him flirt with others even afterward and get jealous and then wishing he would come back to me for more <hes> it was it was just kind of crazy and <hes> and the reason i'm talking about this now is i felt compelled to this podcast because everything i have been feeling related to this experience in my life is is everything that the two men who were sexually abused as young boys by michael jackson also felt an experienced in that leading neverland documentary i i saw and heard there stories of how this larger than life figure manipulated in seduced and played on their emotions to the point of making in these children complicit and willing participants in adult sex ex <hes> i saw how the shame of it and the secret impacted their lives now. I've said it before. Silence suffocates me suffocates. Everybody <hes> my book. The s. word a memoir about secrets. That's what i tackle because we kept everything secret my mother's schizophrenia even the you know sicilian kind of code because austria <hes> and all of this that went on <hes> the sexual awareness <hes> my mother thinking. I was this promiscuous when i wasn't yet here. There's this entire <hes> sexual abuse kind of happening which it's very difficult for me to even use the terms you know sexual abuse <hes> because of of how of how it came to play right <hes> so anyway i say this because madness which menace to magic this podcast comes in many forms and i think what makes it so maddening in so shameful is that there is no cookie cutter label or identifier right. There is no one one thing that's going on at any time there is no you're all evil or you're all good to watch out for. There is no specific. Look for the the predator b. It's sexual or otherwise there is no specific look for someone who does have crazy voices going on their head right from the outside looking in could look great. I'm looking at the number of people recently <hes> who have committed suicide side right kate spade <hes> anthony bourdain i mean from the outside looking in robin williams for god's sakes you you know everything's humor and laughter earned success in parties and facebook posts and you just don't know and back then even more so because there wasn't you know facebook or the internet or anything like that so i i realized all of this and yet constantly. We were chastising ourselves. I know i did because we should know better right. I we chastise others. Why didn't why didn't your mom protect you. You know there were there. Were questions about that. In the leaving neverland documentary about the moms you know when my book came out. <hes> people said you know gosh you guys really what were you doing. Some of the stuff is so stupid and your dad you know. He didn't protect us at our well. That's great. We blame blais mothers when we haven't walked in their shoes. We assume we know what we would do if we did and the truth is you don't you don't know oh because you don't even realize it's going on while it's going on this whole thing with gunnar really as it was going on it. You know what it really was how it was going to impact me that just you know didn't it didn't register it didn't register i was i was so confused just over authority figure father figure friend mentor and then this whole other sexual side and honestly because i was <hes> you know i was thirteen fourteen year old who was behaving more adult like great job at that point when i should have even had it and then and all the responsibilities at home with immigrant parents and just with the my mom's crazy i already was acting taping older. I had adult tendencies so anyway <hes>. I guess i've said all this one one. I just i felt moved to talk about it too. I realized from leaving never land that we can dan love and hate the very same people at the very same time likewise. We can be love and we can be. I hate at the same time we can't control the external forces that come our way that is given. I'm good bad ugly. We just can't all we can do is learn to navigate the madness and care for ourselves and be compassionate for ourselves an for others right because we don't know what they're going through while it's happening and what i find really helpful. Sharing are stories with others in the hopes of sparking the little bit of magic that can be found the lessons that can be learned because it's there. I know it is. I've seen it with my own book. I now see it with leaving neverland and i hope y'all see it with this podcast. Do so blaming a comment if you like and <hes> and hope you are well thanks so much for listening to madness to magic and my podcast. I'm with it's crazy a love story. I believe we're all here for a purpose and i know that this is part of mine. Please share this with anyone. You think might benefit ed or might even have a story of their own share. You also can visit me at madness to magic dot com or check out more of my stories including info on my book. The s. word at paulina milana rights dot com. I hope to hear from you and join forces with what i consider a unique meek caregiver tribe as we all learn to embrace all of ourselves to have compassion for others and to come into our full power by the grace that is both madness and magic until we meet again. I'll leave you with one of my favorite mantras be bold and mighty the forces shall come to your aid. Thank you <music> <music>.

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The trials and tribulations of Karl K, Lord Jim, I May Destroy You, The Outsider and The World According to Jeff Goldblum

The Clappers

31:46 min | 1 year ago

The trials and tribulations of Karl K, Lord Jim, I May Destroy You, The Outsider and The World According to Jeff Goldblum

"On this episode of the clappers we're talking cat cuz the trial yeah we own now. I'm waiting to hear about the cows the trial and it, okay. We're talking about more Jim by Joseph Conrad and moving into the twenty-first century or something. I might destroy you. It's good Century that twentieth-century night. Don't don't knock it took. We took the outsider. Not the Camaro outside and no story of a television series based on the Stephen King novel. Sorry. I didn't even get your hopes up being very exciting. If we were to talk about the side of that know, you're not talking about that would talking about another month. We're also not talking the plague although, you know, probably should I think next time we're going to talk about the plague of views on canoes plague and also George Copeland's got a very amusing series on Disney. You can watch if you're these new tab Welcome to the practice. This is Andrew Young and this is Kyle Quinn. Tell me about the hair Carl. I can't see it by the downside as many upsides you're doing it in the same room either the downside. I think the fact that you can't see my hair probably counts as an upside. Yeah, it's it. It's it's put an application in for its own postal address. It has taken on a life of its own. Yeah, it continues to get paid down your shoulder. Well, I mean I have I have two options really sneeze Really Leave it to leave it to grow and to do what it will and the other is to get out the while Clippers that are sitting in my bathroom cupboard and they've been a few days. I've been tempted to do that. But you know, look I kind of figure I don't have to I don't know if Iraq up to an office. I'm I'm barely seeing anybody face-to-face I can just leave it and send off. It's about rocking up to the office. That sounds so cool looking at office. Been telling lies about you. How was that? Well book that I hold in my hands his first sentence. I have memorized begins like this. Someone must have been telling lies about Jerome K. Anything wrong was arrested one fine morning. Toys activity do I allude of Cardinals and then obsessed with comments show I'm going going. I'm just saying that that I I it's a very influential book in my life the trial by Franz Kafka as Nineteen Eighty-Four as well and it's that and books by my great friend dick have an influence the way I feel who laws within government of imagined that you've been living through Nineteen Eighty-Four and the trial. What are you Frame It For The Listener who doesn't know what the hell you're talking about Frank. I'm not sure that I know what you're talking about. I'm going to tell everybody Cal break the law. He was punished for breaking the law rightly. So he was fined and he wrote an a column an opinion piece of a divorce is worth reading. I recommend everybody with mobile phone or the Internet to read Carl's calling the age of 13 October 2020 wage. Where he jumped onto the tracks to retrieve a ball North Roan Whitey daughter, not only breaking the law but setting a very poor example as a father. She was embarrassed child. I wasn't a choice. Of course. I was under the impression that she was standing there and he said look at me she came home. She went out to walk the dog. She came home like 30 seconds later the dogs barely even like, you know, strong wage raised bay leaves find it at its leash. What are you doing? Sitar low-ball the trend I was like, wow what so I went back on back with the dog with the ball Checker and looked at the the ball lying there on the train tracks. I looked forlorn. I looked a kilometer down the train line where you could where you can see no train coming. I looked at the looked at the timer, you know, the noticeboard 12 minutes till the next train. I live beside this train line. I know the frequency of trains. I mean, I might know that I haven't committed the train. That the timetable to to memory exact staff for that. But you know, I know that we don't get freight trains rumbling through. I know that it's it's regular right? I mean, okay, I'm going to jump off. I'm going to get the Metamucil. I'm going to get that ball. I'm going to jump back up done in 5 seconds to psos Protective Services officers not real police not real police, but pretty close at home saw me and walked from some distance. I saw him coming and then this is the thing that really bugs me right? I could have left the park right? They're only allowed to age and you in the immediate environs of of a railway station if I'd stepped out of that Park I would have been out of their reach. Anyway, I didn't I thought I'll look they're going to give me a talking to him fair enough and Iraq and drop down for the railway line. But what else is it going to do, you know dropped out of the Railway line and leave the ball where these that's what else you would get into. What harm what harm have I done wrong. Enjoying on to the line for people like groups of ignorance crime. It's a fun one spot. Well, it isn't it isn't and and we you know, anyway, you know, so they come up to me. I got ya. All right off of done the wrong thing. Yes. You've done the wrong thing. Well, what's your name? What's your address on it. Now that I want to give you my name and best of all you have to because you know, if you don't it's an offense oil, but you're only going to give me a ticket out you and they said a name is guy said I'm not going to give you a ticket. I can't give you a ticket. I'll just take your details and give them head office and it'll be up to them to decide whether or not to give you a ticket and okay gave in my details and thought of writing a ticket. All right, and I thought hang on you just you just told me straight to my face that you weren't going to give me a ticket and then you said yeah, but I think I don't think you're not going to do it again. Jerry and expectations. Exactly exactly. It's kind of like so you're making this assessment of my character predicting the financial wage. I think essentially podcast you want to know what it was broke. Not only that but I particularly is going to get ridiculously long and strong. Oh he was right anyway, so this went on and I said you recording this on your camera and he said yes, and I said, can I see that footage you said? Yes, you can request to see that footage. You can be made available to blah blah blah and all right. Okay, and I did film a little bit of this exchange on on the on my own phone camera, but none of the juicy stuff. I didn't get you know, I didn't get him lying to me overtly. I got in talking about why he changed his mind, right? So it's kind of like is useless. I didn't think to ask the right question. I didn't think to say, why did you did you just tell me blob that you weren't going to page which is what I should have done because then I wouldn't have needed the footage anyway, so this will happen and then I got the phone and it's 430 bucks. It's kind of like well that's annoying isn't it? And it's really, you know, I've heard nobody home. There's like the risk is minimal blah blah blah, but whatever call me back to rights, but I was really really annoyed about the fact that he'd lied to me and it's just like that's that's got to be an offence. I did some, you know, ferreting around. Yes. It is an offence. If a p s o or a police officer lies during the course of their Duty they have committed an offense. So I guess it was like, well does this mean that that offensive then nullifies my offense or does it mean that my offense stands but they're also you know up for some sort of you know, whatever you rebuke and day so of course so I kind of as a bit of a bit of a I guess a semi intellectual exercise. I thought well, let's see what happens if I complain about this if I object to it and I would request to see their semi intellectual. Oh, well, it's very simple intellectual. I don't really put a lot of thought into it. But let's see what happens. If I if I request a footage what happened was they said no dead. And then said, well you can request you know, this is finds Victoria. Basically the police's, you know, revenue-raising arm, believe it or not. I've had some I'm sure you have I'm sure you've had some correspondence Andrew Young ahead. And so anyway bang rejected. I then go to freedom-of-information bang rejected. I then go to a peel a freedom-of-information bang rejected but on different grounds the second time it was on the grounds that I had requested the footage in full if I had requested some of the footage maybe I would have got it. I don't know. Anyway, I read an article about this because it's weeks ago. There was a County Court ruling that police could not be compelled to release their body-worn camera footage in civil matters, and it was in the case of a guy who said he'd been assaulted by police and I thought my case doesn't matter my case doesn't matter at all. It's just such small beans. It's nothing I did it because I was a little bit bored a little bit annoyed but really if if I've been racially beloved. Or five being you know sexually assaulted or something, you know had happened that that was really that really meant something and my best chance of proving that was that the body warm camera footage. What right do I have to actually access that and what I found was I have none and I found that absolutely appalling so I wrote about it and yeah, they that's what you're referring to. Yeah. Do you should receive extra payment for your extra duties running opinion piece? No, good luck. That's a shame as you been paid $630 or whatever. So it's pretty good suggest like a climate a climate against taxes research. He could have gone to one of those magazines home and you heard about this book. I've read a little bit about thirty years ago, and I'm trying to member he's a naval Commander, isn't he or naval officer? Oh, no it is it is it is a dog. See, yeah, Joseph Conrad. Yeah, and he spent a lot of time at sea and a lot of his books. I sent might be confusing with Nostromo. I think maybe on rivers and and in the oceans is not it's just that it's about a man who imagines himself to be brave and strong and true and possessed of all the great Empire use that an Englishman would have coming out to that far-flung reaches of the Empire. I wish the book was a little more specific about where it was set i'm suspecting somewhere around Java. Indonesia and Singapore somewhere around that zone and he is working on like a tramp steamer a shift. That's that's not great shape that's taking a whole lot of pilgrims. I suspect to make up Muslim pilgrims and the whole point the whole action of the book takes place around scenario where he is at he he's a chill up. He has his wonderful day dreams of himself as as great hero if someone Falls overboard, but he thinks that that's not serious enough thing to him to be heroic over and eventually a terrible thing happens where the ship sinks all the time it hits something unseen in the water and the crew are all bail out into a into like a Lifeboat and he's driven with indecision boss. You know what to do. He can see that the waters about two birds through the whole and chlorine and he jumps into and they escaped and he feels more more than thought about this but you know, they've made their escape but what they don't realize is that another ship comes along and rescues all the drowning pilgrims. And so there's a court case and he gets off he used of well, the main the main thing is that he's committed a crime against the traditions of the sea against the go down with the ship. You didn't get I mean that that's yeah that that was there was a law now that the US doesn't recognize but it's recognized in in Europe and an international maritime law that it is a crime for our offices to abandon ship into abandoned passengers. The birkenhead was a ship that sank in 1852 was where this whole idea of Women & Children First comes about the Bulls. Guys on its way. It's a it's a rambling tale. It's told in the second person. If something style at Somers it more than took up decades later where this man who seems to have fallen in love with Jim followed his case. What is what happens in court the captain by the way runs off and doesn't face the music from the terms of a court case and Jim's punishment really is not right not a great person. He has his license to work in commercial shipping taken away from him. He's not in prison executed, you know, maybe it turns out that it's okay because nobody drown the fact the fact that fighting that spoke of course is that it's all about the feelings of the white man feelings about the British the feelings about this poor man who are so lovely and handsome to gaze upon who in such Charisma who is clearly both of us juxtaposing that with the constant Overkill of the filth and the degradation of the natives. Like there's a real visceral sense that the people who are not white and birth Europeans included a dirty and filthy and disgusting and the narrating tries to help him and and the book I won't say how it happens in the end. It has both elements of something that you are great and on range of temperatures. Yes. I was wondering when you're going to get to that there is redemption. Yes, but it's a very interesting book immediately the modern reader off to think of the cost of Concordia. Remember the cost of Concordia which on Friday the 13th of January 2012 struck some rocks or Reef off and sank 32 people out of the 4200 diet and the captain escaped. He left the ship and sat on a on a a rock feeling. Sorry for myself looking at the at the at the ship sinking he was he was you don't know about. Well, I don't remember it. He's name is Captain Francesco schettino. He joined off musically enough as a safety officer and then rose up to become a Captain. It was said that he was bringing his ship to close to an island to impress his boss. Terrible was having an affair with a woman on board ship was trying to that's not really how it having investigation panned out. It's not an unusual thing for a ship to salute and An island to come in close and but he was far far far too close and it was deemed responsible. He was sentenced to 16 years off and the breakdown of the sentence is really interesting ten years for manslaughter five years for the Shipwreck and one year for abandoning ship and really yeah, I think a lot of us would think life should be the other way round. There's something so so disreputable gasoline and and Godless about a captain getting off his ship and sitting there watching all these people drown and not lifting a finger to help other Coast Guard or and people from in regular boats from all around them are trying to get these people off the ship and getting them into safety and he's just sitting there feeling. Sorry for himself on a rock. It's it's an amazing tale really and it's shocking tale of cowardice that that I'm launching brings to mind. Well while I'm reading it and there's no there's no Redemption for Francesco schettino. I will post up a a great Vanity Fair article on our Facebook page. It really is it's amazing tell if not just cowardice but also heroism because the it was almost accidental a woman aboard the ship as cuz they were told everybody on the ship. Nothing to worry about here. As long as is the case with most cruise ships. Now, it's fine. Let's go back to your cabins and lock the doors and everything will be fine and the power goes out and the water's pouring in you know, but someone rang her mum birth Passenger bring her mom who then rang the Italian equivalent of triple. Oh, you know and set the ball rolling and the head of the Coast Guard. Was there watching some film. I can't remember Outlaw Josey Wales know something like that and he gets a cold. It's like, oh man filming in my pajamas and he's like 60 miles and he races and it's a it's an amazing Tale But I'm you know, margin is a book. I mean a red all my life and I finally got to it and it is a very interesting tale of colonialism of racism cowardice like a takeout. Is it something that's always been being so brave myself. It's kind of like seeing how the other half lives right exactly. Seeing how a coward would deal with something off. Now did you watch I'm a destroyer? Yeah one episode of it. Okay, let's go then. Yep. You go first. Okay, Andrew, did you watch I may destroy you cuz I do remember give you some homeless before the break. Yes. Yes. I watched it and it's got that same Choice from that other show chewing gum chewing gum and I really I think a couple of them but I really liked it, you know as you like chewing gum your thoughts on 1 episode was enough for me 1 episode I make it. Absolutely what episode is enough. There's a lot on at the moment, right as you know, it's your line of work and frankly. I need money to keep me interested in this particular tale. I'm not saying it's not interesting things done, but for me, it's not for me. I don't really know how to counter that other than to say so it's it's twelve episodes. Yeah, it's written by and it stars Michaela Cole. Who as young as you rightly say is also the creator of chewing gum chewing gum is it's a comedy right? It's a comedy about a young girl raised in a religious family coming back. I guess coming into her sexuality and write about exploring whatever is out there. I may destroy you is really not a comedy at all. It has the occasional funny moment, but it is a pretty bleak show in in many respects about well in the simplest terms. It's it's about sexual consent. I thought that's how people have framed it. It's about the notion of sexual consent that but for me it's also about the idea of sex as transactional space. So there are people who are basically dead. In one way or another engaging in the world of sexuality very much through, you know, platforms like grinder and tender and what-have-you through sort of, you know, drunk and pickups and date rape and the whole range of things that are kind of pretty ugly. Really. It's a it's a pretty Grim view. I think of you know sort of the realm of mating in one way or another but you know, it is driven by this this Corps story about a young woman arabel applied by Michaela Cole who has a drunken night and kind of gradually starts to piece together this song that something's happened to add that is probably sexual assault. It's happened in a toilet. She doesn't know who who perpetrated it. She doesn't know exactly what's happened dead. She's not sure how much of it she's remembering and how much of it she's imagining and she over the course of these twelve episodes pieces it together and she reliable the writer is like I say in the book review. No, she's a pretty unreliable narrator and that's that's part of what the story is about is like, how do you how do you own this kind of story about about an incident in your life when you know, you are not a great greatly reliable narrator when you take a lot of drugs you drink a lot when you're up for it, but you're up for it so long as it's the version of it that you're up for, you know, and it's it's that it's that notion of where the line is the whole time and it plays out across multiple characters and multiple storylines over this series, you know, it's it's really complicated and complex stuff and I think it's wrong. It's amazing. I think it's really it's one of the best things I've seen in a very very long time. It's very challenging. It's very it's it's uncomfortable in lots of places, but I really reckon it's worth checking out. I reckon it's well worth more than one episode. I agree. I think it's only hard to get through in the sense of the subject matter and how confronting some of the scenarios are off a piece of writing performance and direction. It's really really vibrant. It's it's it's amazing. It does it does things in a really Innovative way and thoughts and it is just it's fresh. It's a really fresh piece of work. You haven't seen it. I might destroy you in some foxtel check it out. Everybody's talking there is a show off. It's based on a Stephen King novel are you from The Outsider? That's I'm not a reader of Stephen King's work, but I know the kind of stuff he writes about and maybe that should have given me a dog. Who this was about some scary stuff? I'm going to wager to be some Styx carry second scary stuff, but also Supernatural. Yeah. Yeah. Okay things happen in this life is basically and I didn't realize this when I started watching it. It's about Children being murdered and there is a clear culprit of his murder who is rested. But because of the various Supernatural things that happen in Stephen King novels and in the show, it's more than meets the eye but it's it's it's really well-written. It's very well-acted and it's compelling. But it's it's something that only a few and they're probably more people than I who are of the view that it's they're quite happy to sit and what some kind of drama that is really odd texting in reality in realism turn out to have a supernatural cause rather than a mundane human cause if you don't mind that then I recommend it's it's really it's it's grown know everything about it is really good how much so you watched all of it. Are you watch the whole thing? Well. Hold on. Yeah. I yeah some, you know, sometimes either Tipping Point where you went diminishing returns or the first one I thought okay. I don't you know, as I said, it shows about children being murdered is not my idea of payment at all, but, you know, sometimes one allows oneself to be swayed by another opinion and wage. It was it was like the the scenes between the the adult humans acting and it was real good very good. And but again, it's just it's just not my thing, you know home and and but I think it's going to be a lot of people things. Look I think it's fantastic. I think it is a mentor students fantastic in it. Obviously as he's in most things but perhaps like, how do you consider? I'd yep. But nothing's an article about Irish. Paddy considine is the Irish I think is Irish is it sounds like you would be I presume you've never I can't remember when I last saw him in anything but but I'm sure he is. Yeah. Yep. Yep, and it's simply a Revo plays this detective whose roped in to be sort of a defect which is a psychic. Let's let's just just get out there. She's a psychic she gets she gets roped in by private investigators to work with the detectives to investigate this murder wage and it's like, you know, it's sort of it does get a little bit. I mean a little bit silly I think in in the sense of you you have to I mean if she plays like a really gritty crime Thriller really high-end procedural drama. It's like this thing has happened now, we're going to follow it. It's a bit like True Detective in that sense like the first season wage. Detective and and even to the extent that it's sort of goes into some you know, that territory. I mean this goes much weirder than True Detective did but it definitely has some Echoes of that. It has Echoes. I think of of Twin Peaks the the you know, the the original TV series where you had this sort of broad notion of Evil Dead in a community character, you know, sort of personified by the character of Bob who sort of ran sort of in throughout the community but different forms, that's where I lost my job. Yeah, you know and I get that I understand how it's how it's sort of like, I really I really like two Twin Peaks but I but once it seemed that okay, it's not going to it's not a person it's a thing and so phenomenons. Yeah. Yes. Yeah and it has really really clear Echoes of Stephen King's It which is, you know very much about a sort of a job. Realized sort of evil that takes takes form in in the case of it. It takes a form of a clown who lives it lives in the sewers and perpetrates hideous acts upon children. So there is you know, there is a there is an echo in in this of a lot of other things but particularly of Kings own work and it it does, you know, it does require you to sort of like go right we're going to we're going to change gears really markedly from this very very high-end realistic kind of crime drama to a supernatural space. And yeah it you know, it's kind of a big ask but I went with it. Jeff Goldblum has this TV. Oh, yes, he does about a half an hour going through various like one week. It'll be like some hipster cultural Touchstone, then it'll be a white dresser. It'll be like a half an hour on recreational vehicles or ice cream, you know how to choose. I mean, I'm not interested in this is this is what to me Mark said there's a show worth watching is cuz I'm not interested in any of those things at all. Yeah right off. He has the most strange way. So kooky self and talking to people and it's it's bizarre watching him and hilarious. It's a light for like I've watched a couple of episodes of that show Portlandia where he appears in various guises A supplier who owns a doily ShopRite naturally shop and and he's you can't take your eyes off him. He's married. I've never Seen an actor be so magnificent has just been sold or the creation made. I think he only has a place himself really doesn't well so many so many too. Yeah, but I mean, he's like home the first time I saw him was what The Big Chill and then you know, the fly, of course so good in the fly. I mean that is never seen that I'm saying, please do yourself a fiber do it off the guide says in Her Fly Right. You've nailed it. Yeah, that's what happened man becomes fly. That's great. But off the the ending of the original version of The Fly which I think Vincent Price and if I remember correctly just has This Magnificent shot of of the flying spider web, but it's got a human head and there's tiny and and it's just going I have seen one of the Great Moments in that scene. Yeah, it's it's anyway, Jeff Goldblum would never go off help me but it's it's it's a nice hipster white trash kind of line that he moves back and forth between it seems like he's able to talk with all things all languages. I think the thing about Jeff Goldblum that that is so kind of compelling when you watch him is like you never know if he's serious about anything right? It's just like he's just he's just like, you know, six foot four of irony. Yes and borderline sleaziness and you kind of going easy being sleazy or was he just being ironically sleazy wage. Should I be repulsed or should I be going ahead nice one. One of the one of the highlights is when he he goes to move some sneaker laboratory and they they wage. With athletes and that on a special computer kind of treadmill so they can measure their gate and look at which part of the foot they land on and he he has this very mincing start running style is a boy who would look like his never run anywhere in his life. He just you know, and he keeps running over the thing and the guys can you come back come back to it less bopping. Let's bopping just run normally just don't pop just run normally run like a normal person. I've not seen this show. I've seen it in the I've seen it in the home directory and I thought should I should I it's well, I clearly should if if you find Jeff Goldblum delightful then then this is for you. I'm going to check it out. I think that's a good a good recommendation. That's it for the clappers. Thank you for listening.

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Episode 30B - The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978)

The Stephen King Boo! Club

20:52 min | 2 years ago

Episode 30B - The Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978)

"Nutley new violent ventures like snow slapping against I. I can see the Christmas tree. Why is this hour opening episode? He gets how we're going to start the episode absolutely Howard. What does happen? So you're talking about invasion of Asia which is based on the Jack Vinnie novel of the same name covering. Yeah I'm I'm still wrap my head around it but it's okay. I'm here with it. I'm with setting the base itself self. Yeah and for all of our listeners. Christmas time Sir Quayle. I'm sorry yeah put put me put me in your head space my man. Why did you do that okay? So so I'm sitting in my bedroom. Yeah which because of the L. Shape of my house has view of my living room. And there's a soft little fire. The Christmas tree is all lit. It's snowing lightly and it's dark out. We're recording this on the second of December you're like ahead of the holiday curve. My Dude yes I put my both of my two full size eight foot Christmas tree up yesterday. All right my man. Hey y'all this is an extended which one do I shoot about the nineteen seventies invasion of the body snatchers. I insisted on doing doing this. I'm taking Phoenix along with me for the ride here because this movie is deeply. Cool the me both on a personal level and on an intellectual level so so Phoenix Before we get rolling what did you think movie because I know this was your first time seeing it. Yeah I liked this movie I liked it enough to like. Go look up the Jack Finney you book and right follow up with the original movie. I thought it was fun. I thought it was weird. Oh it's it's super a lot of both dude. I don't watch a lot of like like on purpose science fiction. Yeah Yeah but as a horror film how effective This movie made me a jump a few times. which is saying something for a move from the seventies because you tend to think that like jumpy horror really hit his stride in the early two thousands? Maybe the man this one holds up the Gore and like Special effects are not corny. Now they're like just enough there they work right. The this movie was huge when it was released deserve to be a lot of money for its tiny budget. So there's a town sorry. Go ahead God as the Jonestown massacre had just happened people were looking for like a non human or to like watch. It's an interesting struggle context. I don't know that I would have put those two things together. It's actually I wasn't going to say it. I noticed it as I was looking at the date for the release just a line. Somehow I wasn't going to say it except for that. It is actually mentioned on the Wikipedia. Page nice shots to wikipedia where we do all these things. I want to say about his own safety. That want to say about this movie are so there's there's really three things one is podcast related. One is move your waited one personal and I'll just kind of go through them in order. You can take your pick of what you want to chat about about. So the PODCASTS related thing. Is that the timing. knocker is quite simply wouldn't exist without this movie like it is such a direct lineage. Lineage that it's hard to imagine that the Tommy knocker is would have popped into Stephen King's imagination and taken the shape that it did without this movie there there are not only like thematic connections. There straight up like plot points that are not one to one but but you can clearly see kind of an echo which I think is always fun and genre fiction. And what's funny is that he would have been watching this movie like in the Post Carrie like Salem slot area early in his career thoughts thing was. That's thing one thing too is that this movie is expertly crafted and there's the sound design alone is iconic. There's this kind of hissing screech that the body snatchers make. That is super simple. I'll probably throw in like a clip of it here. It and it just works. It's chilling it's animalistic but it's not human and and it's kind of a precursor to the like Zombie. Sounds it's just wonderful. From production point of view the lighting the effects facts the sound. It's all just there so it's worth seeing for that reason and then three This this movie is one of the first horror movies I ever watched with my mom. And those of you who are regular listeners to this program we'll know that my mom got me into horror and I am still to this day very into horror and This was one of the I like horror films that I have memories of sitting down with her and watching and just like man. I want to share that joy. Find find someone that you enjoy and watch movie with them. which is what I did with you? Phoenix that even knowing it. That is why I did this exercise. We actually tell that story so On my bed right. Yup I've just cracked open a Coca Cola. Like heard the his- like taking a sip like I have a pre-thanksgiving I was making Thanksgiving food. It was not Thanksgiving yet but because I needed to practice because it was my job to make the food. I'm the setting the scene for you you all. These things are on my bare chest. Okay I've got my cat and I've got my TV on. And I send Steve A snapchat chat of where I met in the movie and we have not talked all day. Yeah and which is rare also and we are at like the same. Three minutes of the movie we Maybe two minutes ahead of Phoenix in the movie. Like if that at and that is obscene because we knew that we wanted to do this but we didn't plan which day we didn't like it's a really loose recording schedule. Well we kind of pat out ahead and so you know sometimes you record really soon. Sometimes who don't and three some Weird Act of God. We ended up watching this movie together from like eight hundred miles apart and it is a stellar viewing experience. I highly recommend it. If you've got a buddy that's not in your state or in your country and you still want to like watch. A movie with them turns out you can just do it. Just like press play at the same time on Hulu and just go and and it's not good because it's has like a stereotypical nineteen seventy-eight vibe. Where you're like this is a fun seventies movie? It's good all by itself. You could yell. Somebody was made made last year. Yeah I will say that the seventies vibes are off of the Goddamn chart one of the most seventies looking movies. Just ever like the big figures. I really love that kind of eras. Feel static And I think it's a really cool movie for that time period like there's something to be said for the summer of love has come and gone hippies or kind of becoming an established archetype that people are just going to have to deal with for a wile Viet Vietnam over and you're just starting starting to crest over what is going to be the eighties. And here's this Weird Wonderful Scifi movie about Oh people and this is an urban horror movie which is rare. You don't get a lot of urban horror People dealing with the conformity of everyday life. What I find fascinating about the body snatchers is that? Here's here's some spoilers. So if you don't want spoilers turn out the podcast go out to become back And the way that they work is they just kind of take over all the machinery of society. That's already there so they turn like factories into pod growing factories and they have the trash people. Take out the evidence that people are being transformed and it all just kind of seamlessly listlessly flows together. And if that's not a great way to explore the angst around what your society is becoming after this kind of individualist individualist revolution. That was supposed to be the counterculture of the sixties. I don't know what is it's perfect. Speaking of American individualism that is like the big screaming artistic flow with which this movie is coming because of of the director so Philip Kaufman is an American author. Who Does the American individualism thing all the time? He does it so perfectly. He was chosen. Chosen to do Tom Wolf's the right stuff which is like about American individualism. And you know this is not some random horror director director. Something this you know. The Skies Received Twenty Academy award nominations for different. Yes yeah and he is just so iconic connick you should. He did the outlaw. Josey Wales linking the raiders of the Lost Rei. Yeah Henry June rising sun like this is the guy. Well I think. What's cool to? Is that like it. Plays into a lot of the same themes as the time knockers and because of that the way that troops shakeout is very similar. So you have this whole replacement thing that you see a lot in like alien sci-fi And it has to do with the awesome individualism but but in both the Tommy knockers and invasion of the body snatchers. That replacement is in service of a kind kind of almost bureaucratic society. Right like the Tommy. Knocker is are like an engineer society. And they're just about like mechanical Michael Progress at the literal loss of their humanity. And that's pretty much also what the body snatchers snatchers or doing. They have this thing where it's like. Oh you don't you don't forget your memories you just you just a lot. Calmer you know you don't have emotions but that's okay because you can still make things and we're going to go to other planets next so it's it's this kind of really fascinating parallel. They come to independently. I don't think that Stephen King made that choice. Because that's how it shook out in the movie. I think that it just I is how that train of thought ends up going. Do you want me to say more about personnel. Yemen pleases him. Do as that's that's obviously you know. I love to play this game. With which one do I shoot so the lead character matthew. Is Donald Sutherland. Yoke yeah he plays as Barlow in the Rob Lowe version of Salems lot. He's also an ordinary people. And I have the needle and Mash and he is all of the ways million things but he it is connected to the Stephen King Universe he does. A great job has really wild Albert Einstein. Hair he is wonderful old free apart which is a very seventies thing we see that alive along. Yeah he's he plays kind of a hard boiled character which I like. He's very like I don't care what it takes. We're going to clean up this city but he's also look a health worker. which is a fun twist? Also y'all forget why New York City was like in nineteen eighty eight like. It's really really stingier. Yeah we also get Brooke Adams. WHO's not in a lot of things and she does really really well in her part As Elizabeth she was also Sarah in the dead zone. Oh that's interesting now. We've a lot of S K crossover. There's there's there's some horror bud light there's more but wait so she was the only person to get any like nods or nominations In this movie and and it was that that was why for for her performance. I will also point out that. She and Donald Sutherland's character at one point in the movie do a bunch of below cain into stay awake Yep Yep and it is a super nineteen seventy scene. Yeah the the pods can only replicate you. If you're a sleep so they're like I will just WANNA sleep. We'll do a bunch of uppers and not and it works out just fine. Yes To Continue Leonard Nimoy. Ah Rushes it he. He's also goods really hard not to be like so spock's in this right it's like you see how. How many like? Oh it's spark and then he starts acting like. Why is spock being so mean? What did they do to spock? Jeff Goldblum Dollars Jackal. Bloom as himself yes. Jeff Goldblum plays himself in this movie as he does in every movie. I also want to point out okay to personnel things. Real quick Rose Kaufman wife of the director. is the woman who argues with jacket. The Book Party. Oh that's cool. That's a fun little fanned. Also Kevin McCarthy is in this movie as running man Haw- Which I also want to point out the words running man? Yup which are GONNA be anyways. Halloween took a plane to all. You guys you guys know Stephen King but also played miles Bengal who is the Matthew Bengal like alternative in in the original invasion of the body. snatchers that's awesome. I love that. So that's what I have to say about personnel and you're always on it with the Trivia I never am and you always always are and I appreciate you for it. I'm glad that you appreciate it. It's things I loved about. This movie is that it just had this like brilliant cast and all these famous S S. You know people for sure. Hey I just got to bring up before we go Man Dog man-dong dogged this man dog. There's a man dog his dog man. He's got a man face he's still have to have to go into this. Because it made me literally jump in my seat. I was watching this movie alone and it'd been years since I answered forgotten a lot. What happens there's a kind of like rambling and and homeless dude who you know plays Banjo? And he hangs out on the stoop with his dog and he's like a feature of the city right so when the actor. Yeah he's just he's just like a guy he's a city guy and when the body snatchers come they our cloning not only him but his dog cloned other animals to which I think is super interesting and as this is happening one of the characters is like like arch shit running from a bunch of body centers so they can't stop and like save him but they kick the pod and they do this kind of like vague slow zoom in on the pot and it spits up some goop and you think at the time. Oh the like I bet they just saved that dude. That's cool like what a good detail later in in the movie. It's very important that they stay calm and collected that they can blend in with the other people quote unquote the body snatchers and not get caught. What and they're making their way through this line? It's going real good. And then this dog runs up and it enters the frame and within maybe half the second you realize that it has a man's head and it's the wildest twist ever and it's incredibly important to the plot this happens and it chest so back wicked so distressing I found it viscerally upsetting. I had to pause the movie and call Phoenix and be like man dogs common to further. Date this podcast. We are two weeks out from the release of the Two thousand nineteen cats musical film And I can't say that the very first thing I didn't think of within unusual for technology with a human head body best connection ever I love that God is good for the remind so upsetting. It's also clearly. They just put like a latex mask on the top of this dog had more one second. The second dodgers put this on just cook but he like runs up and he's like hello. I'm a man and everyone freaks out and I also freaked out either extremely very upset because it's very upsetting. If for no other reason watches movie cause the Manda. I had to talk about my dog. I honestly most of what I had to say about this movie. It's a great read. It's the mathematically linked Tommy knockers in so many different ways. It's an important movie. It's connick and a lot of different scenes. The ending is one of those seen so iconic that you can like buy a poster of Gesta the last frames in the movie. Oh for sure t shirts yeah. Yeah and it's a great. It's just a great watch. And it's not so scary it makes you feel bad. It's not like hereditary. Where like you watch it? And you're like Oh. That was a great movie. I feel bad now I did. Actually I was the little jumpy at because it was like some parsoes like Oh fuck yeah yeah So I did. Watch a pallet cleanser movie. What was your pallet cleanser? Let's let's do like With olive live the other reindeer which is a drew barrymore voices a Matt groening illustrated anthropomorphic. Jack Russell terrier guilty of mail fraud who wants. Oh Amanda commando trained. Yeah yeah man dog so to speak. So it's an old cartoon network. Christmas movie that I watched to acklin cleanse my palate talent. Yeah my pallet cleanser was because I had to do the same thing I actually because I was going to bed pretty soon after and I ended up watching top chef. I think on Hulu thought you were GONNA say like Henry and June or something that would not fit at all. Yeah now K man like I love horror. It is scary you do sometimes need to take a breather absolutely. I think one of the things I like about horror is that you need a pallet cleanser. One of the things that's nice about eating potato is like the little mint they give you afterwards Um Yeah this was like Pat Day. That's what I came here to say Miami and we've found our way to it. You guys enjoy this bonus content. A few brief things move forward. Our next is the dark half which we are doing all in one chunk. So if you haven't started reading man go ahead and start enders enders. I WANNA say like to audio books. One I listen to is great so go do that. They're both good. They both. Yeah good it helps with the pace because the next one is is a little bit slower than Tommy knockers because anything would be slower than Tommy knockers. Yes so her shirt. Do that took us out on social media And Yeah we're doing more doodles so from it Flying I think my tempo has often. I really hope you can make.

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"Support for this podcast comes from invented together. I bet you didn't know that inventing activity by black inventors peaked in eighteen ninety nine and it has never recovered black and hispanic college graduates patented half the rate of white college graduates. That's just one of the reasons why you need to know about invent together. When our patent system gets more diverse our nation will get stronger and more successful. Find out how you can help. Diverse inventors and unleash economic opportunity at invent together dot org listening to the best of the string and getty show featuring our podcast one more thing more info at armstrong and getty dot com. So this is a list of the fifty. Greatest western movies ever made as compiled. By whom keith phipps. I believe it's from vulture magazine vulture great website a great culture website. Yeah so i was just thinking the other day that it is a parenting mistake. That my odds when we're talking about whether or not auto show rocky to my son which i haven't yet. But he's never seen a western god. I loved westerns as a kid. I was trying to think. Where would i start. Would be good delorean. I love him as an adult. Well interesting you should. Bring that up sean. They do some writing here. The western is a vital genre with the habit of reinventing itself every few years that doubles as a way to talk about america's history while reflecting on its present a strand of violent psychologically complex westerns that appeared in the fifties for example captures. Both changing attitudes sort of the settlement of the west and the treatment of native americans. Well channeling the spirit of a country still recovering from a devastating world war two while fighting native italians. it was often italians that were the indians. Right yep oh. Clint eastwood says we've only invented two kinds of art. In america that are original to america. Jazz and western movies. Which i think may be true. Who said then clint eastwood. Who's a big fan of both. We don't get rock and roll direct growth out of like jumped blow. Why wouldn't we get rock and roll. I dunno movie tradesmen. Blues too right. We get that whole. Thanks your this. Article actually throws comic books into that mix as well. What about that anyway. Foolish that's the point of the podcast. The list of the fifty greatest westerns reflects the wide legacy from the very first entry. A film directed by hungarian and starring tasmanian. It's been assembled of our working from a fairly traditional robbo tasmanian devil. Okay i was probably racist against has maintenance. It's been assembled working from a fairly. Traditional definition of the western film set along the american frontier of the nineteenth. First years of the twentieth. Century's that means no modern westerns. Noth stealth westerns starring aged x. Men well that takes off the list. I was gonna go with nine to five is my favorite was no space westerns with blasters instead of pistols we did however make an exception for a certain comedy that concludes with its stars attending its own premier fair enough and they say we left off a lot of great western's Obviously you're gonna do top ten. Or i could flip through. See if anything. I know we on our favorites before you hit the list. Or why not if i was going to name my top number one a couple go ahead in the top would be absolutely the original. True grit is is at the top of my list very close so but to me. Huge trade up from glen campbell to matt damon in the updated too. I love the the neutral. Chris still make up for the trade down. You can't avoid by gaining away from john wayne because he's just frigging unbelievable. Well the dude disputes you. That's just like your opinion man. And robert duvall on that such a good. Yeah oh fill your hands you son of a bitch. That's a good movie gobert bowl talk for one. I'd fat man says robert duvall. Oh that's a good movie yes. I get chills thinking about it. I love watching that scene and not gotten chills. I love them both. So you just name that one. Or and it's got a tro around a couple josey wales with clint eastwood. I tried to watch the good the bad and the ugly the other night with judy. We're both all excited about is boring. Self pace mooring slow pace. Yeah mugging for the camera. Just like look how amusing he is it. Anyway it's not car chases. That's for certain for me. I'd i'd have to throw out unforgiven. Oh yes speaking of clint. Which i've seen so many times Three ten to yuma wits russell crown. That's all my excellent devastating. So good and i could probably babylon for quite some time. But i'll end up with the man who shot liberty valance. John wayne and jimmy stewart. Brilliant is blazing saddles on there. Why don't you stay tuned. Michael is that you want you throw in that one out. There in the red river always stuck down into my mind is is a classic western that i just absolutely loved and i don't know if this may solicit was a series on netflix in twenty seventeen. It's called godless stars. Jeff daniels series similar to three ten to yuma. It is a great modern day. Telling of a western traditional westerns sil- thing. really good. i you know what i don't know. I don't think there are any series on here because if there were they'd have to include lonesome dove there bunch of john wayne movies and he plays the same person in every movie. So it's kind of like a series instance. Here's here's the shoot est yet shoots number nine his last movie when she's dying of cancer and does a movie about a gunfighter dying of cancer right really blazing. Saddles happens to be next at At thirty eight c. At the end. Ron howard who idolizes. This famous gunslinger throws away. The gun shooting a man right before. John wayne die so john wayne knows he isn't going to become a gunfighter like me. Oh man ron howard will grow up to be opie. Yep broke the cycle numbering grow up to be opie. I'm throwing out tombstone. Where's that joe. I dunno movie. You know you love the make. Sorry that might be my favorite of all time at number. So we've gotta go we've got. We've got a slow to enter tombstone. Frigging fantastic hall of fame mustaches. In that. that's a very very good movie. Yeah i'm not. Have i seen that one doc. Holliday wanted on the shortlist of single performances. I've ever seen much flynn. I'm your huckleberry hats one of the rate all-time length. Yeah i'm and then you mentioned after. Oh the magnificent. Seven the the star studded cast in that one steve mcqueen yul brenner charles. Bronson james coburn one of the baddest bad asses and movies. Now we are seven. Says no brenner doing some excellent counting. Which was his specialty stuff. I've never heard of the bullet for the general dono. Nineteen sixty six. The outlaw josey wales twenty nine flip in the ox bow incident. Oh that's really good henry. Fonda harry morgan outlawed josey. Wales has my favorite line from clint eastwood buzzards eight same as a worm. Yep he's that line for a few dollars more. Oh the they shot a guy and The outlaw shape we got a barium and clinches buzzards same as worm. Gotcha why bother for the true grit nerd his twenty-five the original the original year. Buddy twenty actually ever seen the original. So good i should. Gamble is so terrible. Hilarious it really. It's a shame he's in it wale of guitar player. Terrible actor Let's see let's get to the top twenty. Twenty one is a fistful of dollars. We'll start right there. You mentioned real guerande. Probably not into the top twenty one ear jag. I thought of that. Because that's got ricky nelson also a singer in it. Yeah but he's not embarrassing. My god martins in it to love that movie so good. Yep a fistful of dollars. Which made clint eastwood star sixty four. She wore a yellow ribbon nineteen forty-nine john wayne john ford d martin doesn't exude cowboy the way that a lot of these other people do. You wouldn't think so as brilliant he plays. He's played a degenerate drunk. He's trying desperately to dry out as the town is under threat. And i have to check that out at south humiliated and discouraged hands shaking and john wayne stands by him and all unbelievable shane. Nineteen fifty-three ooh that's a good one. I'm back shane There is three ten huma in the eighteenth spot. Well it's so good. Oh my god. It's about a dad doing the right thing even though it will probably kill him because his son is watching him. It's devastating. oh my god seventeen high noon. great sixteen forty guns. I don't know forty guns from nineteen fifteen's enough. That's plenty johnny guitar. Nineteen fifty four. Now that one. I've never even heard of to forty guns. I don't know nicholas race Joan crawford plays vienna. Saloon owner dominates. Everyone she meets with her imperious attitude might be good. Sometimes you get these lists. Critics got to throw in something they've seen in you. Haven't it's kinda thing but fiery climax My darling clementine from nineteen forty six nine hundred fourteen butch cassidy and the sundance kale. How did i missed that one. These are you kidnapped. When i could watch with my son. That movie is so good with freaking. Paul newman and robert redford just so unbelievably good. Yeah it's a film so charming. Those stars help a lot. That it's fatalism sneaks up on you spoiler alert. Yeah yeah that. I remember because i watched that as a kid and that was a shocking ending sneaking fatalism. Yeah because it was because it was so charming and he got. Paul newman riding a bicycle raindrops. Keep falling on. My head doesn't fit with the ending that much. Not jump off that cliff into the water. You think we'll drown drown albuque- falls gonna kill you right twelve the good bad and the slow paced nineteen sixty six. What do i know. I tried to watch it and it just i like it but you have to be. You have to be not modern patients for a drama. Sometimes it plays the like the western as opera building. Arias of violence and suspense with editing. Time to the rhythms of any. Oh moriconi score. yeah dude. i'm an idiot switch. It probably pistol with me at best. Maybe shoot me number eleven. The man who shot liberty valance nineteen sixty to love that movie so much. Ten meek's cutoff from twenty ten. Don't know it when you come to the meek's cutoff. Your meek from ten. Espn survival on the oregon trail. Okay so the theme there nine the naked spur nineteen fifty-three don't know porn. I don't know it wanna see my spur. This girl's in cowboy hats number eight. There you go jack rio bravo nineteen fifty eight for real bravo. Yeah there you go sean. It'd be worth if you're going to pick one of those movies. We recommended if it's number. Eight off assets out so good nineteen sixty nine the wild bunch in at number seven. I don't think i've seen it end. And if i had forgotten but Hundred percent score for rio bravo on rotten tomatoes. Yeah that's rare it's it's that good In in you you see why angie dickinson was a sex symbol. Oh yeah oh my gosh. Oh my god a low number six red river from nineteen forty eight Back to Howard howard hawks western with john wayne number five mccabe and mrs miller from nineteen seventy one. I don't know that one. You is that a john lennon. Mccabe and mrs miller Robert altman warren beatty plays mccain fast talker falls in with and falls in love with mrs miller julie christie madame offers to improve business at as low rent brothel they They really made being a whore Charming in your old timey westerns. Yeah you're very clean and pretty and respectable and not smart. What would have been like. I don't think yeah. I would have been gruesome a lot of stinky mouth breathing gals who'd given up on life yet your taste g number four says trying to rescue the podcast thirty nine stagecoach and knew that was gonna be in the top five if you're a critic and you don't put that top five you get shot. Is there such a thing as a perfect movie if not stagecoach comes pretty close John wayne is the ringo kid fugitive from the law. Cetera et cetera. A young john wayne. Allyn your top three once upon a time in the west nineteen sixty eight. That was the first movie her. Sergio leoni made after the dollars trilogy. Minuses signature star. Charles bronson plays a gunslinger known only as harmonica. I don't think. I wanna know why he plays an instrument. I'll give you guess. Who's locked into a battle of wills with frank henry fonda mercilus hired gun with whom harmonica has a mysterious history. Henry fonda mercilus hired gun to losing out on the number one slot. Only because i think it's newer unforgiven nineteen ninety-two on the shortlist of great greatest movies. I think it may be a perfect movie. It's phenomenal. It's it's long as hell settle in Not for the kids. Not whole lord known gene gene. Gene hackman gives clint eastwood quite the kick in there. And it's a gruesome scene. Well he had you got Ladies the evening get slashed up. Oh yeah just right. Oh yeah begging for their lives as they bleed out in the sun and yeah that's that's rough. Yeah but It's it's a story of redemption hate and can you change really no oil hogs cruel lawman. Dogs are poison fever. Separate them out with the others number one almost ad to be nineteen fifty-six searchers john wayne john ford just you know it's it's the all time classic western the searchers as the comedian demetri says the search party is the least fun party. Armstrong and getty. This is the best of armstrong and getty. You know it's funny. I was going through my closet the other day. And i've often said if i could leave one message with you. People and there have been quite a few so obviously. I can't pick one but it might be. Do not spend lots of money on clothes. When you're at your thinnest. Please hear me when. I say this is. This is the new me. This is the size going forward. I look great in. I'm going to spend hundreds of dollars boy. I'm glad you're saying this. Because i'm kind of in that position right now. I lost ten pounds last year. I'm the lightest. I've been in. I don't know how long like thirty years and so i'm thinking i got get nicole. Legit need new clothes. But don't spend a lot of money because it's not gonna last. Don't think this is the rest of your life back to the ideas of christianity. Some guy in the goodwill store is going to be really happy. You did that because he's going to get some great duds for practically nothing. Which programs warning. Yes yes thanks for optimism. Show them maybe once if at all all my favorite one of those just gave him to one of your charities para white golf pants bought myself some white golf fans. You watch the tv golf guys. Where i'm all the time great. Here's the deal. They're crazy rich. Be they get their clothes for free from their sponsors me a an idiot be a slob and i know i can't be trusted so i hesitated to wear those white pants. I just you know. Because i didn't want to get a message. Once you stain them you can't you know i literally never wore them. I never wore so that you wouldn't get dirty and then you wouldn't be able to wear them anymore. Exactly and i tried to put him on the other day and nah not unless i lose both ass cheeks in so terrible accident ever going to get these pants on me. What machine would even do that. All right. it would have to sit down on a small slices at the deli. Bloody terrible but yes so i literally never donned those pants so in keeping with the logic of i don't wanna wear them because if i get them dirty. I won't be able to wear them. Yes i for years carried around the perfect amount of change in my pocket that i had figured out. I had like a diamond nickel in two pennies or something. I'd figured out. What the exact amount was that. If i'm ever spec when you paid cash for stuff but if i ever bought anything i would always have the amount you put on there see. Don't get a handful of change back and our old friend. Tim sales guy said to me said you carry change every day so that you can avoid having to carry change sometimes thought. I guess that makes sense and i stopped. I done that for years. Thinking is so smart. That's a dollar to no problem. I have a dollar and two cents. You're not handing me ninety eight to carry around my sucker. Some sort of change beast of burden. That'll be fine. No problem i got a dime and three pennies as all the way. I'm ready for you. What an idiot armstrong and getty to show you how easy it is to file a claim with geico. We hired a soap opera star. Me my car has storm damage. And i had to buy a claim couldn't possibly get worse when my claims team leave me for someone else. Someone less intense. No actually when you file a claim with geico you get your own dedicated claims team. Who promises to stay with you throughout the process. I've never known such loyalty. I can't wait for the second season. Geigo great service without all the drama. Armstrong and getty. You're listening to the best of the armstrong and getty show featuring our podcast one more thing available everywhere. Podcasts are giving away because we're stupid. I that fifth donuts got me feeling a little sick eight. Four donuts was feeling okay. Donut number five and feeling rough to you. Wouldn't expect a fifth donor to greece. Just coming out of your pores so growth nothing. Gross about donor gonna cry sprinkles. Do you have that. Your mouth is lined with fat feeling a little. My waist is lined with fat also. Oh boy i have not been doing so good lately. Either is not good not. I'm an all or nothing guy which is classic fits in with being an alcoholic which i am We are on us on. Switch off switch people and I haven't had a doughnut since last fourth of july when i declared independence from donuts because i did not hand and i almost made it to this fourth of july. He's just what like a short. Wow wow good try. So you're expecting at some point you'll flip the switch again. I'll die of obesity doughnuts. I'll either have to are all wash myself with a rag on a stick so homer simpson ask Dur- i just got this text from judy. This is an odd thing to text about. Baxter the dog. Oh and we've got to get to the blind dating thing but baxter the dog. We begin taking him to the dog park. That's not too far from where we live. Because he he really enjoys it but it doesn't matter how many times he pose on his morning constitutional walk or whatever. He will pu two to three times at the dog park and to the point where like the third time. He's just in the doggie pooing position just straining to get anything to know you. Mark your territory with urine. Why is he trying to mark his territory with deficit. it's like he's having. He's going to have a colonoscopy or something like he's taking that drug it's the weirdest thing he goes there because he likes to chase the ball in play with the dogs but it's like he can't leave there with any poo in him as an voyeur. Thing because he liked the sean boy. Oh boy why you know. This is a podcast. I could make the joke that i have in my head but it's just it's too much it's too far. It's no good for the brand. Then miss you sean. Yeah i know. We're gonna miss those jokes. Did i ever mention i scared. The scared the of our pug when he was a baby. No yeah. I feel bad about that. He was a little tiny puppy. And i was running around playing with the kids or something like that and he was there and i run around the corner boo and he got his big white is and he just squatted and poop to actually scare the assad saying comes from like when you get so scared you you You lose your bowels. You lose your mud as they said in the civil war days yeah. I felt bad about that german story. Though i didn't know you i knew i know it was a real thing. I've heard people talk about the when planes almost crash. Sometimes people throw themselves thing. Your bowels give but Yeah i did that to a puppy which is not cool. Yeah there's there's a fair amount of discussion of that in Gosh what's the norman mailer famous or book to quicken the dead. Now what's his book about. World war two. I've read it. It's really something is naked in the title the naked and the dead and can't remember that it naked. I feel like i should think of this. Yeah okay the naked and the dead yet. What's a wonderful book. It's troubling but they talk about that. A fair amount published it when he was twenty five. Lord you know the worst part of that book for me sean. Since i've got a fear of falling in heights and stuff like that is. There's kind of a spoiler came out. And what nineteen fifty. Yes seventy year old classic book. So if you're planning on reading the naked and the dead to just turn your volume down for twenty seconds. All right is one of the characters is afraid of heights and falling. He has my same like incredibly powerful irrational fear of falling and they are on a ill advised mission where they're coaching along the side of a cliff and because he's so afraid he can't make his muscles work any falls to his death. It's rough and i think the line is any. He any tumbled. What is it. And he fell through the air. One small man just wanting to live new new is right. Norman mailer good writer to the thing. I mentioned earlier blind dating. Can you play just a little bit of the trailer. We'll discuss this briefly. I want to get married. I wanna have babies before. I'm like twenty six health insurance. Welcome to the strangest blind date. Ever doing good you fall in love with someone based on personality alone. What is your ideal personality everything so since you since. You can't see this. What's going on there is they. Make them up to look like animals. I mean just incredible makeup like you walk out and you're one of the cats from cats or you know like you look for description like the studio quality hair and makeup prosthetic style just a. It's just a twist on the you know the oldest you version of this sort of thing you've ever heard of blind date just in general more or less Masquerade ball yeah. Yeah and it's it's a cool idea. It's got a good hook to get people watching again but it. It just reminded me and first of all. There is a lot about a being physically attracted to other people that we don't understand. It's not just you know moronic. You're an idiot. She's hot and you like there's more to at the mad about you know jeans matching up to have healthy babies and stuff like that and in ways we don't understand. How much does she have our. Because we surely you've had this experience there's one particular hot woman in a group of women you're attracted to handsome fellow and the rest of the rest of them. You recognizer attractive. You don't have any. Oh my god feeling to them. You do that one though why well. There's all the other stuff that we don't understand going on and it's not because of their personality because you don't know their personality yet it's because he reminds you of your mother. I don't think it's that but nobody knows for sure. Anyway on this blind date thing. They're gonna says you enjoy your cigar penis. That's dr freud. Joining us morgan. The idea is you just you meet these people. You don't actually know what they look like. And you decide whether or not you're i don't know if you i don't know if your brain would your brain let you fall in love with somebody without seeing them. I how much. How much is your your brain your body screaming out your dna. Everything near genome screaming out. You need to meet with this person based on what they look like. Maybe you can't fall in love with somebody that you haven't seen and maybe you fall in love with her after the show then you realize no. I actually wanna have sex with horses. It's it was that she was made up like a horse. That's why i'm attracted to her. Then you got problem. That's true could you put the worst mass back on or she wasn't wearing a mask so there's two things that make the show not quite what it appears to presenting itself at and that is one that is an entirely seems to be facial prosthetics. I hate to be misled by reality. Show so you can have a and you're still meeting them in person. You have a very good idea. What their body style is which plays a lot in attracting second one. And i think this is even more important. These are still contestants. That made their way onto a reality dating show. There doesn't seem to be any booby prizes in the batch. So i don't. They're all hot. Yes yes all of these are the sort of people who would apply to go onto a reality dating show but like i said. It's i've always thought this was interesting. Hot women that i'm just not attracted to. I mean i recognize there. You're you're symmetrical year. Everything that you know most people just i got no feeling for you. I've always thought that was interesting. Right currency there. You have anything to do. Yeah i remember it seared into my memory. I saw a woman in an airport once not happily married at this point. You know no intention of doing anything untoward. But i saw this gal and walk near her and it hit me like a like. I don't know like a wave like an nfl. linemen had barreled into me. It was like genetically speaking. It was ding ding ding ding. I couldn't do anything about it but it was just. It was weird totally unexpected. It reminds me of. I can't be specific about what this is. But they're these meetings. I've gone to before get togethers have gone to before. Sometimes they do a candlelight version and when and everybody speaks. And if if if you go to it's candlelight like you haven't seen the person it's amazing how much more open minded. At least i am. When only i'm hearing the voice verses coming up with preconceived ideas of what i think of this person. Just based on their looks. That is remarkably honest of you. But i think if we're all going to be honest with ourselves we'd we'd admit yeah. I didn't even know. I did it until the first time i went to one of. These gatherings candlelight verse nine even though i did it because sometimes in the lights come on like afterwards when you leave you see him and i think if i had not heard you speak in the dark. I'm not sure if a paid any attention to you. Just because look your soc lobby and everything like that. I would have just assumed i what do you know which is stupid and bigoted and in small minded all kinds of things but is it in some weird way instinctive. It's gotta be it's gotta be doesn't it. Yeah i yeah. I just think in are fighting every minute to survive mode which was mostly human. History ye rallied to the strong and you you bread with the young and healthy And it's very very base and there's nothing wrong with moving beyond your animal instincts to try to be a little more evolved in a little more kind and decent. I try every day. But it's it's just interesting to think about although you do by you. Come into the studio and poop on the carpet. Mark your territory. Why did that for the first five years. everybody knows. This is my studio that i thought i've got to have all come on. Its base. my name's on the studio. I don't hear any more. This is the best of armstrong and getty during our podcast. One more thing everywhere. Get more info at armstrong and getty dot com so was fairly recently. I can't remember exactly what was going on. But i found myself at one of those. Just foul frames of mind. I'm definitely the sort of personality that can get a little negative than dwell on the negative and the rest of it. We're actually talking about this during the radio. Show how you have to consciously focus on the positive things. I think it may be maybe deep within our dna to just focus on threats and problems well but clearly more so for some people than others. Oh yeah absolutely. I know some people who at least outwardly are. Super sunshiny positive. Sometimes i wonder i actually know somebody. I'm knocking out them but came off. Is that way for years. And years and years. And i knew them very well and then it turned out no. They were very troubled. And what's the right word Just way darker than i'd imagined and the sunshiny thing was a way to keep people away from figuring that out. I'm so now for sure and their share you know what people's public faces are. How are you how accurate it is. I wish i was this. The smart thing to do is to let things you have no control over. Just pass right through you instantly. And i've known people who can do that. I can't i have to. i have to work at it. Yes yeah. I'm i'm finally at the point that i'm pretty good at working at it. I used to be terrible at it know. Make me nuts stuff. I had no control over. And frankly once they were in the rear view mirror just didn't matter anyway But anyway like. I've said many times i was born annoyed. Came out of the came out of the womb that next but so i was in a really foul negative frame of mind one day and i went clicking around on the internet and i found this. And it's actually one of my favorites now on on my phone. So i can always find it. It's a ten ways to cheer yourself up when you're in a bad mood. I thought i'd hit you with some of these and they're not on whiskey number two vodka number three. Yeah well i've tried that and it's a bit of a short road number one and that's why i like this list. It's not for dumb cheerful people. It's four the complicated in angsty among us number one. Feel it dr jin bolt. Taylor's neural anna tm. Anatomist yeah neuro anatomist. A brain scientist who studies the anatomy of the brain. She had a stroke. She watched her brain function shift and alter. She watched our brain process or didn't process stimulation. She found out that if she let herself feel emotion. It would pass in about ninety seconds. So don't avoid what you've what you're feeling the hopes it will just away. Won't it will. If you let your feel let yourself feel it. Yeah that's pretty. There's pretty solid science on that. I think and i believe it. It's still not my natural reaction either is If something happens you that you will have an emotional reaction to. You're going to have that emotional reaction you don't get to pretend you don't get to not it you can put it off. It can come out in an inopportune Not very productive way later on down the road. But it's a happy. Yes it's going to happen in layman's terms. How would you describe that. Then is it just that you say look. I'm angry. i'm really angry. I'm admitting i'm angry. Feeling it i'm going to be angry for a minute. I found identifying. It verbally is a big help for me personally saying well. What's your feeling right now is frustration. And that's making you short temperature. Yeah i don't know. I can almost picture in my mind the The the physical like is pushing something away. And i just try not to do that. Okay this is something that should make you sad. Be sad about it. Yes as opposed to being angry about it tomorrow or sarah about a year from now or whatever Yeah number two thing. Observe things as a witness to what you sense rather than as what you sent. He'll tap into that part of you. That exists above and beyond your funk. You'll go beyond reaction and into the ability to respond so just step outside yourself and say okay. You're you're feeling this physically. You're feeling this emotionally. You're doing this right now. And if you can separate yourself and i've done that it helps well beyond my funk that was my third album released and under rated sean truly underrate was very experimental. Understand it you know i listen. It could be tough. But i think i think there's something there. Yeah i didn't have a therapist. Say to me. One time years ago. And i've had one therapist of several that i've seen in my life that i felt did any good whatsoever and it reminds me of woody allen's book who is a sort of famous for seeing therapists. You know movies. He's always on the couch. He's been taking his therapies whole life and he doesn't believe it's done him any good. Wow he thinks it's mostly just a waste of time. And and i think that most of the time it is for most people i really do. I think i've done enough now. That i can that i can say without you. Know you're the kind of guy who just doesn't believe in a non. I've tried a bunch of it. There's a bunch of crap out. There one's crap. I've had enough for me and my family my kids or anything like that. There's a lot of crap but anyway therapists said to me once when i was explaining something and it hasn't been you feeling you shouldn't feel that way. That's the way any normal people person would feel when this has happened to them and for for for some reason for me. That was like a light bulb. I mean it was like yeah. I suppose that does make sense acting like this. Is you know some everybody in the world. If this happened to them they would feel that. This is not a character flaw. There's nothing wrong with me right. Yeah it's almost like you haven't eaten for six hours you're hungry. It's just a perfectly normal. What do you to happen. Exactly woody allen also is my favorite joke about Therapists after twelve years of going to my therapist. He said something to me that brought tears to my eyes no laying. Let's see all right number three way to cheer up if you're in a bad mood master your mind or just give it a little test on the verbal part of our mind processes about forty bits of information per second the nonverbal part of our brain processes about eleven million bits of information per second. Wow so in the verbal part of your mind is telling you everything sucks. It's not basing that conclusion on very much information simply noticing that your thoughts are not serving you and knowing that your thoughts are not based on the whole truth can help you find freedom from them in other words. Think of your thoughts as one if you will one person's opinion and there are lots of other opinions you ought to be listening to. Don't listen exclusively to that one voice crap. I've heard people say don't believe everything you think which is which is a good one. That is a good one. A number four is easy to understand. Rock your body one way to move past you know my body right now so stop it oh put it that way is to move your awareness somewhere else gets groove on dance well dance. I don't dance. I will not dance. You can't make me dance. That would make you feel better. Having people mocking my dancing would wing beef better. Well i would dance like no one was watching because nobody'd be watching if i'm dancing. Trust me number five clear the slate you can meditate and lots of different ways walking breathing mile. Mindfulness sitting any way that works is for. You is good. Let yourself be with anything other than your thoughts inhaling peace and exhaling the funk playing the guitar does that for me. Because i'm not good enough to be able to play without having to really concentrate hard. And so i can't help but if i play something it clears out everything else exhaling. The funk was the the the double disc of my beyond my phone that's me cruelly overrated. Unlistenable them together. I had an average rated double album. Buying a home can feel like navigating uncharted waters. Redfin agents can help. They'll answer your questions with honest advice. So you know exactly what you're getting into. They'll also help you tour as many homes as you want and show you what it takes to make a winning offer with a redfin agent on your side. 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Cry Macho//Copshop//The Kid Detective

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Cry Macho//Copshop//The Kid Detective

"Welcome everyone to them. Film vaults. that's and there's an online bischofberger hosts for today accessible movies. Not in the same place that we're back to a previous calvin settle. Enersen might be dying. I understand what is up of you. Are you feeling you contagious. What's your sick probably contagious. Yeah i'm sick. Don't have the code. As far as i know i have a canary. I treat my. My son is a canary filing art. Good and they estimate allah usd Weekly so he got a cold. Last week we kept him home. They tested them and then he was still sick. And we're waiting on that test then. I doubled up. Because i'm a little paranoid so i took him to To kaiser and got him another test and then I took him up to camp. He was feeling all better and took them to camp for a quick little like one night vacation. I'd long story. But i got to take him up to my my old stomping grounds up at camp ronald mcdonald for good times. Because it's empty. Because the kobe. So they're inviting the counselors and their families up so i got to take them up to one of my favorite places in the world. It was surreal. It was amazing and On the way up the mountain on my nose started rice starting at the postnasal drip gaga. Here we go and His his kobe test both of them came back negative. So that's that's good However i woke up the following morning a camp like i woke up about a dozen times That night in the cabinet camp fever and just cycle stuffy sore throat just in in a weird place. You know really really sicker than i've been since the The whole outbreak. Since the since the whole i not great dining with You know. I'm moving this week too so tomorrow lasted for the move. And it's all fixing up the house packing cleaning. I've been going on and it's not ideal but i'm feeling a little bit. Come out on the other side right now. So i just didn't wanna get you infected though nice. You know the. I appreciate that number one moving such a fucking physically taxing activity anyway. Then add on being sick on top of that. I literally cannot imagine out of your control and like when it rains. Pour sometimes and on top of that. I'm getting like Other things are expiring like my websites expiring and my trademark is. I gotta like work on all this stuff. That i didn't see coming so it's it's kind of funny. I'm just doing like and laughing about it though. I should also note. Say that in case you haven't noticed. The show's practice. Sound a little bit different. I'm not. I'm not speaking to my normal microphone. i'm not I don't have the equipment that we that i had during co but it's all over a brian's and i'm doing it in the garage on of the hottest days of the year so it is warm. Now it's gonna be It's going to be interesting. We'll see how we get through this but if if ever there is going to be shows that don't make it to the hour mark. These might be them. So we'll see how these this look. Fashion goes and then our top five carat most charismatic villains which is coming up later this week which will be recording here in a bit so That was the topic by the way the show must go on so we. We don't take breaks here even when we do take breaks we Do new intros and tell you what you're about to hear. So every single week we do shows and This week is no different. Despite all the chaos that surrounds me but brian. You always got around you so hundred. That's one hundred percent. True anderson had late-breaking sickness hence while the equipment is over here of. You couldn't do anticipate being sick. I want to say to you my friend. I appreciate you looking out for me because people know it. Don't i do very low white blood cell count and say cold could manifest itself as a new any kind of any number of problems. Pneumonia xetra etcetera. I appreciate you keeping that shit away from me. And let's give the people a someone who was very nice on the old God i can't remember if it's the film vault facebook. I recently joined the film vault facebook group and the rhetoric there. I know i can't believe it existed. Honestly it was suggested to me. And i was either over there. Or what are the other. Someone's like oh show sounded really good recently like really grew in a month. People agreed said nice. Things and someone speculated. Well they're back together now after being a part for your so use this as a gauge. Their show sounds terrible. If we're no good then that's definitely the reason. I should also say this first of all you. You've made it this far. I don't wanna be the one to kill you so that that's that's more selfishness on my part. I don't wanna be the the cause of it you know so. Would it'd be a black mark on my record. I i feel also The show takes it. This might sound silly to anyone who has never spoken in a microphone or donna. You know performance show Which is to an extent and the show takes a lot out of us like weird drained by the end of it. I actually. I cannot speak for you brian but i can see the look on your face as we're packing the gear up. I know it takes a lot out of me. I'm usually wiped The next day. So i'm going to do all i can. I don't know if. I have any control over myself. Brian but i'm going to try and conserve myself. A little bit here because i do have more patching of walls more painting to do and more packing to do as well as mixing the show and post in the show after we're done with these shows here so And all all in one hundred and three degree as brutal garage. So are you wall six. So let's see how this goes it. It could be. It could be interesting. Let's say you at the old house or the new house. I'm at the old house. okay. That's why i'm packing. It'd be weird to be packing. Newhouse marietta just go back to your plan. Pack i'm adjusting my volume on the fly to which is a big no. No i can't. I can't be looking at the red. The red over modulation the entire show. So i'm trying to turn myself down and it's not having any effect fantastic. We did this in the basketball. Because you want me to turn my headphones down. So doesn't bleed into the mic. Was that an issue at some point. I don't know. I think i think it's fine. I'm just going to talk a little bit away from the microphone and here go. Let's let's get into the program. Let's do it. Let's just doing here. We're going to flick fest three movies together. It looks like was awesome anderson. Where do you wanna start. Well we got this far into it and we haven't even think This week's designer. Which is peter beta who. I spoke to earlier today. I had a nice Very which i was not anticipating. That is such a long conversation. I was talking to him while doing work around the house Talking the kid detective he Us the kid detective which will be flicked passing And i would also like just some orders of business at the top brian I would like to let everyone know that. Writers of justice my favorite film of the year thus far riders of justice which has been elusive Or only available via purchase Transactional via video and is now available on. I want to say hulu i should have. I'm pretty sure to lose so I would like to Let everyone know about hulu according to just watch highly recommend anyone who likes great storytelling. Great acting great movie With with real stakes and funny. This is the movie for you. It's it's the best movie i've seen all year and like i said before After watching the movie there the title doesn't really grab you writers of justice writers of justice after the movie ends It dawned on me that it might be the most clever title of any movie i've ever seen. Wow nice it really may be. And i look forward to a day where you and i can talk about this movie. Perhaps even on a spoiler Because i don't see this getting knocked out of my top five by the end of the year this is. This is going to be one of my favorite movies of the year as it stands right now. My favorite movie of the year riders of justice available on hulu I got a funny thing from a listener and well random to still come out. That's true Listener named craig. who he he's a professional voice over guy and he was in the booth and t- misread honest. Antagonised i just did it myself because of us and he sent me the audio that next week because we're not together Also lords of chaos will be assigned to us by tyler mayor We'll get to that in the next couple of weeks. Tyler's back with another assigner and he'll be Signing us the lords of chaos which is the true life story of the death metal band up there norway. I've wanted to watch that one for a while. So we'll get to that and the next couple of weeks also and then Also finally bryant. Last week. I was so all over the place as we are sometimes especially because if you recall last week we did florence's most Absurd cop. Movie concepts right sheriffs to movie concepts. Yes we did a good topic. Her list was so great and so many notes. And i was going i was. I was playing producer. As i do these days and doing my list. And then you're doing you're listening. I was doing florence's list. That i somehow got out of order on my own list and dropped my number three never to my number three which is really a shame. Because i actually. I'll do this sometimes. I don't know if you do this bryant. But i'll i'll if a if a movie's in contention to be on my list. But i haven't seen it in thirty years but it's available. I got one of the platforms. I'll throw that thing on while. I'm doing my research and gathering my notes and doing everything which takes a couple of hours for the film all at least two three hours and i'll have it on in the background. Which is what. I did with my what ended up being my number three picks so i kind of watched it again just to take notes and what not and didn't even get a chance to talk about it so i'll be doing that on on the next episode that we do. I'll be including number three from last week. We got to do with them. It's worthy though of discussion. So we'll have to do that. And i do wanna to hear what the listeners have been. Seeing listener fan flushing. Thank you very much mitch. Burns puts this list together every single week for us and it's a little sampling of what you the listener have been watching. Since the last time we talked. And i should also mentioned the mitch. Burns is pitching us with a a topic idea and since he does so much workforce. He is an official decide whenever he likes. So let's look discount. He would like us to do Bites best a top. Five movie bites as in scenes as an eighty bit for the month of october. Were doing top corpses. This is what the film vault is for bizarrely obscure and yet super specific topics. Yes so we will be doing that for mitch and then coming week sometime in october. So thanks to mitch. Warning on everyone the fan flicks on sounds like this week. The current f. V t film vault tomatoes for cry macho is seventeen percent. Oh dear hop. Ben neill on facebook. I saw cry cry macho. It was boring and the acting and script were pretty terrible. I love clint but the whole time. I just wanted to get him a chair and takeaways driver's license chair. I got it at tom foolery. Tm goes on to say cop shop. Exactly what i signed up for with a frank grillo gerard butler flick was pretty good. Some expected twists but a few unexpected turns lisa. Hailey owens on instagram. Says she saw tammy faye she goes on to say. I live not too far away from. Cbn's so it hit home. Everyone clapped when falwell died spoiler. I cried when she saying my favorite him at the end. Just give jessica chastain her oscar. Now i was saying that they should just not even do the that section of the oscars this year after seeing the trailer for for this one this speaking of for tax gay just give her just ship it to a drone it over to her right now and then Lisa hailey owens goes on to say i think. Cbn is oh. No this is mitch Letting us know christian broadcasting network. He's letting us know what he thinks is what it is. I saw the movie and it is christian broadcast hour Moving on rough doug alma rafah refugee dhamma rafael for referenda guy ref alabama on reddit. Watch rafa gumma. Rafa d gamma. You've new fucking kids. With your lack of spaces and vowels times he watched rafa dow gama gama he or she they. They watched body again. Wo- would love to hear the boys talk about this. One frankie goes to hollywood the indian the chemists fear etc so worth watch i have not seen body double wall sober ever so that is a movie that i should watch again. I was surpri- fifteen and drunk. When i last saw body though Finally eric homes are boy. Ham slime himself prisoners ghost land. He loved it not for everyone. But it's definitely my kind kinda crazy. That's the latest nicholas cage movie and then Mitch goes on to let us know that. He saw an early screening of deer. Evan hansen and he doesn't think that he anyone will like this movie. He says it's Much like it's It's an awkward fucking masks. The lead actor. Ben platt his overacting an awkward which may have worked better on stage. But i even found his voice falsetto to be irritating and then A mandala stemberg from The hate you give as the best part of the movie. He loves her. So that's a little early peak at deer. Evan hansen which i will never ever see. We might be gambling on it this week. It's the biggest release coming out so we'll have to keep mitch burns his thoughts in mind. where you saw the trailer. I've been subjected that trailer. So many goddamn towns over the last few months saw the poster poster alone is enough to scare me away. Tell us about her son. Looks so lifetime. God my god. Hey heads up to the audiences side by side. Take over there anderson. I have seen the eyes of tammy. Faye i will be fessing that next week anderson. I'm not gonna have an opportunity to assign you a movie. I encourage you to see it. It's it's good and it's a movie that i think we'll be talking about the end of the year at least in some respect so I owe you one. You pull the punch for the dating aid. Which is what you were signed before last time. Brian You said why. Don't we pushed that a week if you wanna reassign which you kind of already did with really pushing me to watch up shop. Gosh up sweep with into it. What you wanna do first cop shop or cry macho. We has a natural transition. Thank you for for stepping. It was a nice dovetails. But i don't like things to be smooth cap. Sure you wanted to twenty twenty one film. By joe carnahan starring frank grillo and gerard butler who get top billing. Because they're big names. Whoever our main characters played by alexis louder ryan onen is in this and toby hus- also eighty percent run tomatoes. Which you can do the math for like a movie. Like this. Like oscar bait and it was eighty percent. You'd be like boy but eighty percent movie like this. You can do the math in theaters now anderson. This starts off a bit clunky familiar. You're like i know. I know who this character is. I know what this archetype is but this movie finds its groove pretty quickly. Yeah you everything does. That was pretty much true. And it's it delivers for the audience that it was made for for sure That audience was not me. What's funny is frank grillo and gerard butler who are the top billed. And this was by far the least interesting characters for me. There's i i was. I was kinda going along for the ride and it was what it was a lot of gun porn. And shoot 'em up so the story is this It opens up with frank release. Who has some very long shaggy hair running from the police and in a police undercover cruiser with cherry. Though it's like a it's got a it's got a siren. It's a undercover cop car. And he's fleeing from something we don't know what and then he ends up in front of police station and he was in front of a police station. There there's some kind of malay going on with the cops. Were there in the middle of nowhere. It's is in the nevada desert. I think it is yeah. It was shot in mexico. But it's supposed to be las vegas just outside of las vegas in the middle of the desert. And he he he ends up hitting a cop. You think he's trying to get away from the cops but then you realize oh no. He's trying to get into prison career. He's trying to spend the night in jail because he's afraid he's running from somebody who's trying to kill him. We did. We say this. Is joe carnahan to who i mentioned a yes. So now he's in jail and then Another odd occurrence happens with a A very drunken men who is driving and he hits the initial car accident scene. Where frank grillo left the car right. So and he almost kills a couple cops and he he hits the actual Abandoned car long story short he gets thrown in jail too and he's really really drunk and smells like poop and they they suggested maybe he soiled himself and then we learned. Oh look he's trying to get in jail too. Because this is who was chasing frank rolla. I'll be honest. Took took me by surprise to find out that when when when you got into prison cell or the jail cell. He was not actually drunk. It did not really take you by surprise. No did not at all. It was the most whole setup ever seen. I was afraid that. I just like spoils them. Because honestly i'm kind of bad at that as many movies as i watch and sometimes i'm like oh i didn't see that come in and sometimes when like everyone's all that coming right and people like no so i i really am not great gauging. What is a great twist. And what's not because sometimes anyways so now it's kind of clever where they're back and forth because they're in separate cells but across from one another on a very dramatic set with giant fans that i've never seen it any building i've been in a lot of billions my life. Never seen with light shooting through them. Have you been in a basement. Jail in The middle of nowhere in nevada. No i have not. So i mean i guess added to look forward to or on a movie set in mexico. I've never been on one of those either But like it felt like the the set designer of conair got a call. So frank turns out. He's a wanted man not by the police but by many other people and it becomes a. Let's just say the the the Movie is very inspired. Interesting by the recently seen by me assault on precinct thirteen. It set up an very very very similar way. Oh that's interesting. I didn't even see that. 'cause i mean it's they're inside the prison. That's not like outside trying to get in. It's our heroes are defacto main characters on the inside being being besieged by outside sources. That's funny because i was thinking more that it was a concept rooted in budget filmmaking and not leaving the the station as much as possible and keeping the budget as low as possible. You know what. I mean it's got a limited storytelling thing going on. So the best part of this movie is probably what is considered. Be the lead alexis louder. Who i'm not familiar with She played an officer young in this and She's a tough as nails rookie cop. I liked her. She's black with buzz-cut cut But still beautiful And tough and i bought her toughness and she was charismatic. And she really helped carry the movie and without her i would have really thought of. This is just a paint by number. Shoot 'em up. Well gun porn movie here. However here's the best movie yeah There is a halfway point to where it's like okay. This movie's getting released an extra half star. Now because anthony lamb just showed up and he fucking rules. He's a we'll spend. I less of charismatic. Villains it was. Perfect i yeah. It was a perfect week to see this movie because of anthony lamb because of us doing charismatic villains. You're absolutely right brian. He is the epitome of and meat. He's the epitome of a charismatic villain. And it makes me upset. Because i'm sure that i left some charismatic villains such as anthony lamb off my list because of all the movies that we've seen they slip through the cracks if new charismatic villains ten years from now because of this conversation anthony lamb would probably come to mind but without this conversation. Anthony lamb is one of those characters slip through the cracks. He's so great he's great. You say extra half star honestly. This movie went from fine. Maybe just barely above average. Like i wanna see. I wanna see at least his scenes again. I'm saying alexis louder. And toby us. Anthony lamb the two of them being movie even though their third and fourth bill as far as the movie is concerned They help propel this movie into not. I must watch but a worth worth worth of visit worth a watch i will. I will not soon forget Anthony excuse me your. Tell us as anthony lamb. Yes he he's so he is yet another hired killer. Who is looking for. Frank rollo's character who is teddy and he makes his way to the police station eventually and he is just so much fun. He's just he's exactly what the movie needed when it needed. Which was a whole lot of fun. It was kind of fun. That's that's that's my idea of fun. Action movies fun. Antagonised who antisaari antagonists. Who just has just sings. His fucking literally sings. He's literally singing like fishbone lyrics and having so much fun with the character he was so the movie takes takes a left turn but like it jumps up a notch when he when he enters the scene now. This is a character actor. This toby haas. I'm not. I couldn't pick them out of a crowd vaguely familiar. But i'm like i'm not like oh that guy was like i know that guy who is he and you what's what's sad and oh no no. Can i jump in. I recognized his voice because bringing a full circle. He and i are on the the king of the hill together. He's hank hill's dad. You're not on king of the hill. Let's clear i should be But this is this is the truth. And this is what i i absolutely believe. It's speculation. I guess because i can't really put it in the past but just from my limited experience with with doing auditioning actors and working and making shorts and the feature film it i did. There are so many talented actors out there working in los angeles as well as many many other metropolises around the world who are capable of very very fun characters like this however they are relegated to background players and You know supporting roles that are underwritten and you could tell that this guy had so much to give and was finally offered and allowed afforded an opportunity to show what kind of character he can. he can be And it's it's just a shame that a lot of the time this character would have come in. He would've tried to kick ass and he would have done this thing you know and he would have. It would have been a completely underwritten boring. Run of the mill character. But instead joe carnahan let toby against the my my interpretation lead toby us bring his own fucking flair and it was something that nicholas cage where the done back in the nineties. Nice yeah he. I'm looking at his imdb. He's known for only three projects king of the hill like mentioned before halt and catch fire. Which i guess most might know him from was john bosworth on that and also is in rescued dawn. Verner herzog's rescued on. But maybe people would know him from reno nine one one. He was a nineteen episodes. As big mike which i have not seen the show. But perhaps that's a known well known character. You're right this is the this is the kind of his probably a gifted character actor and we just have not who he is. He's got one hundred and fifty credits. I mean they only list three nolan. Four on i'm db but he's he's got one hundred and fifty credits on nbc. He's been working for a long time and a lot of different things and yeah he just never had an opportunity to pop out but he pops out and this one and it's funny you bring up reno nine one one coincidentally because he was associated with that. This had i almost brought it up earlier while talking about cop shop. This had a real reno nine one one vibe to it. It was the kind of same kind of sat upwards know a bunch of cops all work in the same little environment and they're all different characters and none of that was really working for me. It seemed kind of some stiff acting. And some tropes that were just being driven into the ground But then it got a little bit clever and cute and then once i anthony lam and like i said before louder was really The lead she was really helping propel the story but once louder showed up it was a whole new ballgame. Goddamn if there's any justice in this world. And i'm sure there's none. Because i don't think there's going to be a big hit movie but people should see this and recognize that. Toby is so fucking grade. There should be a star making role. He's very fun very fun. Abc saved the movie for me without him. What it's been like. Wow alexis louder was in a different movie than everybody else. And it's kind of a shame that she didn't get to shine In a better movie. But anthony definitely Anthony lamb is here. All right so yeah Anything else to say about the old cop shop there one word cup. No like you said. Hey hey alexis bitch I did like that one shot. It's one shot in the movie. You remember when they were looking to cameras low. They're looking through the map of where they're gonna go the map of the police station. That was pretty cool but again for people who've seen the movie yeah A lot of a lot of macho ship but it seems like it didn't take itself too seriously. It's funny joe. Carnahan has gone to camp. Come like a comedic. Action director When i still think. I still go back and think of him. I think of narc. I when i hear. Joe carnahan's name which could there's nothing funny about narc. I mean narc is just gritty in real and like intense. All the way through you know still not narc. Narc is a much different movie. And he's he's decided to have some fun speaking of a director who likes to have fun now that they've paid their dues and done the mystic rivers of the world and really Oh my god. My levels are awful. Sorry i'm looking at the technical specs and it's not good. I'll fix it post guys. Hopefully listenable anyways Let's talk about a man who is As far as i can tell saying goodbye to a character and perhaps his audience with his latest movie. Cry macho he said goodbye to my Awakeness crime show the two thousand twenty one film directed by clint eastwood. If you not heard of him he's from the good the bad and the ugly whole bunch of movies Look it out Starring place would eduardo monette and twice a yokum are in this This cast fifty two percent run tomatoes. this is in theaters now. Also streaming hbo. Max i saw this us alderson theater brave. Hey here's your snoring. Here's a fun fact. Did you know that eastwood was originally offered the role in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Oh okay this makes sense. Because i had this thought. This morning when i was getting out of the shower is a lot mentioned. My thoughts come to me when i'm shower in the morning and becoming awake and i'm just thinking about random shit and i thought that cry macho because it was written by two guys. I'm not good at first of all. I'm not gonna go out of my way to look up their names because then we're not going to say nice things about the script. I can't imagine But also i imagine them shop in and around and thinking maybe they wrote it for a bradley cooper or somebody came along and said i would like to do this so this was a property. This is a novel from the seventies and it was adapted obviously cetera cetera Schwarzenegger was gonna take this role about twenty twenty five years ago. And then he did not because he had a scandal that kind of lined up with the plot of this movie and That was thought to be a bad idea. Used would turn down the role in eighty eight says the deadpool the dirty harry movie the dead pool but i guess he always got had his eye on it and here we are twenty twenty one and all these years later With crime oncho so the plot of the movie is. I wish it was adjusted for age because it was not one that i love this movie. I don't know about you the the The plot is basically. Dwight yoakam knows clint eastwood from his raise the rodeo days and he he owes them a fate he who eastwood or dwight yoakam big favor. And so yo- comes. Like i have a child in mexico that i've not seen in many years. I want you to retrieve him and bring him back to me. That's moving. yeah okay. Can we go back in a minute. Okay the the opening exposition is the worst example of clumsy shit exposition that i can remember seeing In the last ten fifteen years and feel like ham handed. And i just saw old old which had some awful exposition but when old clint walks into dwight yoakam 's office and white yokum spends three minutes explaining to the audience and clint his entire his entire life like iso he was reading it off a page. They should've they should've just on the store. Scroll like to where we needed to be. Looks at the script and it was like yeah. It's probably a good idea for dwight. Yoakam to explain to clint eastwood. Clint eastwood as such. Or what is life has been. That's an important an important and it didn't even it didn't it. Made no sense that would be that. Mean that cutting that biting that rude to a former employee who had essentially given his all and he was washed up and he broke his back. So that's why he can't continue anymore and replaced. Dwight yoakam is telling him all these things. So he doesn't know and he's just sitting there silently along with his replacement who was also inexplicably sitting there in the room with them. It was all so fucking awful i could. i couldn't. i couldn't believe what i was watching. I was just like is this. Is this some kind of joke anderson anderson. There was a little bit of foreshadowing spoiler alert for the audience to a yoke Not actually that great of a guy. i mean it wasn't foreshadowing. There were just setting that up. I know and then he actually was much softer guy and it was a shame too. Because we've seen waco yokum can do. He's got range. You can do different things saying there's so many different ways to catch the audience and that is that is that should be taught film schools just how not to go about exposition or an example of just really really bad clumsy exposition. It was it was just awful. No need for any of it really upset and and as you see in the in the script. He was suggesting that clinton had to move on because not he was old so much as that is because he was injured from breaking his back in a rodeo and he's never been the same since it's not because he's fucking. They never treated this this character as though he was the ninety year. Old man that we see on screen there are women throwing the young attractive women throwing themselves at this character throughout. I literally have written down here. And i wrote this down in the theater because it was one of those like lounge chair theaters. I could hide my phone next to my hip combined. Age of the women who find clint. Clint eastwood irresistible is combined seventy years younger than matters two women. It's it's it's bizarre and dwight going back to dwight's opening soliloquy on on catching us up to where it clint's character is I don't know if you watch curb your enthusiasm. I would assume you don't because it's great television. Yeah no okay there. One problem that i have with that show is the people are so mean and so rude to to larry david that it's cartoony i he could. I think base it in a little more realistic. I kill stay something people just take it like a stranger roles taken totally wrong way. Just start telling him to fuck himself. And i felt like i was watching. Curb your enthusiasm with the level of meanness that dwight yoakam was piling on this poor. Clint eastwood character. It just didn't it didn't add up. It felt wrong from the gecko so we. We spent a good five minutes on the first two minutes of the movie. Let's get to the main issue ethic. Everyone has this as far as i can tell. Which is clint eastwood. Starring in this movie at ninety years old is absurd now not that. There's not movies that people can star in at age ninety but he's he's completely clownish. It's cartoonish yeah. It's it's like. I said i think there was a. I think the intentions were there. I think this could have been a very powerful sendoff to this character that we've all known grow into knowing love associated with with clinton through his bondi blondie trilogy and all of the all. I'd just saw the earlier last week for the first time. Shame on me. i know but I saw outlaw josey wales and he's been playing Pale writer he's been he's been playing all these bad ass cowboys for decades and this is kind of saying night night to that character by it was nice known yet and it could have been done gracefully. It could have been done. Powerfully have been done with. It could have been oscar b and it. It was done with what clint does. Now which is he. He works from nine to five. He does one takes over and over again. He makes sure that he doesn't work more than eight hours because he can't because he's ninety something years old. It should have been directed by. It should have been rewritten and directed by somebody or at least co-directed and give us a powerful standoff to this character. That's interesting shame. I i had a similar thought which is why does it. Why isn't this starring matthew mcconaughey. Why isn't this starring. Woody harrelson get like okay. Let me get it. Let's get into the rodeo scenes so Clinton plays a former rodeo. Clint plays a former rodeo star. Like you said broke his back. Clint eastwood spends the entire movie. I don't think this is character. He spends it like like lint like struggling to walk like he i anderson. I think you're not gonna agree. He walks worse than me. And that's saying something. I i agree and i i would like to say that. I have the utmost r- i i forgive this movie and i a give and take every movie like they they're gonna ask the audience to give a little and you know like ignore this and forgive that right and the and the movie gives us a lot and i gotta love from this movie. But i wasn't able to give nearly as much as they needed to give and yes part of. That was the feeble shallow himself. What he was which is fine. If that's what the character calls for. And that's what i'm saying with with simple rewrite. They could have made this about the old cowboy. That's still out there trying to do it. Which is what clean is. He's still director an actor trying to do it in hollywood but it's just a time has passed him by giving us a more mellow version of No country for old men with with clinton saying sinar to that character It's it's just. It's i would imagine. This is better than i do. When i'm ninety years old but there's no way that it's better than what i do. And countless other people could do directing wise right now and it's just a shame that it was left up to clint. Yes so in. The story worthy cleanse character to hide out in mexico for a couple of weeks. He happens upon a wooden. He happens upon a horse stable where the younger a younger man is trying to break horses. He's no lock. These salaries are out of control. And he's like oakland's like be shrouded shot and nine year old. Clint eastwood ounce. This wild stallion That cannot be tamed. And there is a scene where we cut from close ups of clint writing. This bucking bronco too far away. Shots of what is clear yes. It's close ups of clint mounting a demure horse on a saddle and then we go to the extreme wide where he's wearing the same clothes as client but this horses going deserves. Talk shit this this. This frail we're to believe is frail man is quite successfully and without any any issues at all. And i'm just like every if that was a real shot. Every bone in his body would be somewhat fractured if not snapped in half like this. This ninety year old man's struggles getting in and out of a car see several times and then i feel bad. I feel bad because the man is given so much and he continues to any still. I mean if i was ninety i'd be laying in bed. Probably be watching other people's movies. I wonder you're not you're negative. You're not making tonight. Thanks buddy. I appreciate that but i feel bad saying these things and like because everything i've gotten from clint. I allowed myself to enjoy some of it. But we haven't even gotten to the kid if you've seen reno and you'd think the kid acting and that was a stiff i it was. It was all funneled into one poor kid actor and i don't even know if this kids are good after a bad actor. No one knows after watching this movie. He might be great but he was not directed. Great here he was acting for the back row on stage. He was on a stage. As far as i could tell he was acting doing something. Shakespeare half the time but with a mexican accent. You and i are in lockstep again interesting because here from my notes quote much like grand sereno eastwood once again stars in a buddy picture where he takes a young foreign boy under his wing again. Played by charisma-free inexperienced actor who is incompletely over his head so over that and it was quite apparent and to the point that i felt bad to the rooster who is this is not a spoiler because we learn this pretty early on the rooster is actually go ahead and say right. The he gives he gives the most compelling performance in the movie that ends the titular character. I mean he is macho yes he. That's that's his name. And he's a cock fighter. He's he's a cockfighting rooster and he's the The charisma-free boys pat and and passion and the only thing that he loves in in life. He's also this rooster is also a knockout artist. Which i won't get into. Because i give too much away but that the rooster might have been the best part of the movie other than seen. Clint go i also i. It's it's occurred over the last couple years that maybe clinton the most animal Friendly guy Just from seen just last week with outlaw josey wales they fuck with horses really hard in that movie and there's a scene where one just falling off of a raft i. I don't know how how it did after that. But it got me brian. I was researching just last week about Horses and movies and Outlaw josey wales and what's fucking ironic and really funny and this is such a sign of the times. I found My google search Something about outlaw. Josey wales and Something about animal cruelty. So i clicked on it and it was a twitter handle. Who goes by outlaw. Josey wells and this twitter person outlaw. Josey wale at outlaw. Josey wells was pontificating about how animal cruelty is never ever okay and they were pointing their finger at some other movie. And i'm like thinking. Does this person even know that they're fucking twitter. Handle is the same as a movie. That is kind of an toroslu associated with cruelty to animals. Sweet i mean do they even realize it. That's that's that's the state of the state of state so you get little moments. That are almost fun to pick out like. This'll be fun drinking movie where you drink. Every time a random. So they're kind of like on the run from federales would be would be this exceptionally boring. I was never really bored. Grill it and it was seen. Clint seen clinton a cowboy hat again for the first time. What twenty years. Twenty five years. I mean there is something in seen the new version of clinton just realizing how much of my own life has gone by. Since i i saw a little boy with the cowboy. There's something there for. You had time to let your mind wander to your younger day. You you're saying. Oh yeah there's a lot of a lot of mind wander but i let it wash over me a little bit and i forget it i. I put almost any other actor in this role. That's this age. And yeah. I'm tell your child to pipe down here that the are so many little markets. There's a moment at that. The border crossing where unknown reasons. Maybe knowing only to clint includes this scene where there's like four spring break girls young college age girls who are going over the border going into mexico and the border agent is flirting with them and being all nice and asking where they're going and they're just like we're going to cheese many beaches as we can and he's like you have fun and then clinched right behind him and now it's his turn to go across the border and he pulls up and then end his truck and border agents. Just kind of like where you're going. Oh man okay here we go. There's no need for that other show nonni. There's been there's not even like contrast in that moment is just like nicety sexy girls and then he's kind of business all business with clinton it's like normal. Yeah were you expecting to see those girls one hundred percent. I'm like oh this is. Maybe they did cut that see. Maybe maybe they did cut something and it was that scene where we see them dead at the hands of the evil mexicans which i was waiting. I kept waiting for the right side of clint. And when i say right side. I mean like the correct side. I mean the right-leaning side of clint to pop up and talk about the The mexican rapists murderers. but it didn't thankfully Nine hundred eighty. He had a lot of nice things to say about mexico ultimately back to the animal. So it's it's also any which way but loose all those movies. Which i grew up watching. I remember my mom. Draw a double feature. I watched that game which way balloons and any which way you can look back to back. And the the mistreatment of veteran tongue is like legendary. Like it's one of the worst stories in hollywood's dark past mistreatment of animals just fucking physical abuse and clinton was on set for all that so and that along with the horses and the spitting on the dog that he that he did multiple times. An outlaw josey wells. And it's funny. I was thinking about that going into this movie. And then he's a tone. It's like an environment for a lot of his past actions. I think he actually is an animal lover in this in this movie and his bottom is somewhat of a veterinarian at times Throughout the movie. I real kind gentle with the animals even though he threatens to kill the chicken right off the bat but once you get past that he's really really gentle with all the animals and i'm wondering if you know that i'm thinking probably intentional. He's he's a tony he's he's making amends for his past actions and also. This movie is a lot as the title will suggest it's about the the policy of macho michio sure what it is to be a man and father a child all the Scott a lot of that and and how that's a bit overrated and he's been on his on his pulpit there and you know a little bit on a soapbox and it occurred to me that yeah clint. It's it's real easy to play the macho guy for the better part of three decades and then once you're a hurry four decades find the sixties once. You're just a frail frail like version of your former self and you can barely make it into the saloon let alone gun everybody down once you get there. It's pretty easy to turn your back on the cheese. Talk badly about it right. Now's a pretty good time to say. Yeah she wasn't overrated. Because you can't be macho anymore. I i guarantee we put your brain in a young man's body and you're all about mccheese guests so once he's done with it's over exactly he's like yeah but it's overrated because you can't be anymore clinton i think that's Somewhat obvious i compare. I remember compared cop shop to assault on precinct. Thirteen this is like a boring. A perfect world. Also starring clint eastwood. It's funny brought that up in my video review. This video review. I did this week. Was of cry macho and Yeah i was thinking God i kind of wish. I was watching a perfect world right now. This is such a better movie and is no coincidence that clint eastwood also directed that one. So i meant to look up that stream and anymore people can can skip this one. If they don't have the same sentimental attachments to clinton's as i and so many others do with a cowboy days. I would say if you do this attachment you skip it because it's not going to do any favorite. I mean i. I'm going to say that. I'm very happy that i saw and while it's not really it's it's it's sure okay. Let's i don't even know if it's a bad move is not good is right there. You know it's got good. Things got bad things we discussed. But i mean i don't that i'm happy seen it sadly i can see how like i already said pontificated earlier about how you know. They missed opportunity. This could have been a really special movie. I'd have been set up differently. However will you allow me to be a little bit more but here for a second please. i lost my dad a number of years ago. As you know. I went to visit him again routinely In in the group home which. I still have massive regret that that's where he had to end up. But that's word alternately yet there was no other solution so he's in a group home. It was a nice group home but y- nice orderlies and whatnot. But i go visit him there and he was not my dad anymore. He was a different person. he hardly recognized me. he didn't even look like himself however. I don't regret doing that. I don't regret going back and seeing my dad for those last few months that he lived there and i would see him regularly and i would spend time with them. i wish it was a lot better. I wish that it was still my dad. And i and i wish that those visits were or more impactful but i'm not sorry that i did it at all and i'm not sorry that i saw the last version of clint in a cowboy hat that i will ever see so very different but there are some similarities there that i thought summed up the way i feel about this movie. Okay now that makes sense. I don't. I don't think i have the same nostalgia for your dad that you do but i feel like you miss manzo idea. I don't feel the same way like you misinterpreted everything i was saying but okay all right well. Let's file attention listeners. If you love anderson's dad you'll love this movie That's exactly to get daily to like. I'm not. I guess i do regret that. He was alive for the last year. But i think maybe i should put him down because he wasn't the same dog anymore but i don't regret any time. Spend spending withstand even though he was in the same dog. I it's it's. It's morbid. But i know i know i know what you're saying it's a sendoff it's a. It's a clint sendoff now. Not necessarily clinton clinton character for sure. I wash direct five more movies. I i was doing that. I was saying much the same without my dad's analogy because that just came to me but on the video review and then i'm like oh my god i might look at total dick. This is my every. Clint eastwood movie. I see. I think many of us were like this might be. It might be the last one because of the you know the the way nature works and My god but he might have like three on. The horizon already been announced her in production. So i checked and sadly he has nothing right now. Yes three more on the. Can that mike. And i know that harry dean stanton went out with his last movie which he started in which is lucky and i think it was two hundred credit or something and that kind of like this is it like harry and stands got nothing left to give. This is getting dark morbid. Okay let's go. Let's move on to ls well a little less dark and morbid movie assigned to us. By whom pete. A beta beta. Who is he's been on the program before he is known for his podcast. Which i know. Some of our listeners have made the crossover and They haven't given up on us but they They also listen to middle class film class which pita beta Co-hosts over there. There's three of them and Data a very interactive Show going where interactive with the With the listeners and he actually did advertising on our program a while ago. I remember that pizza really sharp guy. Bright guy and I had a lot of fun talking to him earlier today about his pick. Which was the kid detective which i have Some opinions about and things to say For sure you heard of this movie. Oh yeah and it's been on my list. That's how i opened my discussion with. Pete was jokes on you. I was going to get to this one eventually anyways. thanks for the cash sucker but I would say that it would have taken me a long time. Because i got this weird thing. I dunno if you do too but like if a movie is more than a week old. I feel like it's kind of old news but if it's like twenty five years old and i still haven't seen it i'll i'll dive right in. You know what i mean. So get detective was in that weird like It's been out for a few months now. And i haven't seen it in like what's the point in watching it now but i i talked about it on cinematics Before it even came out because it it seemed interesting. So why don't you tell the listeners. What it's about and why would seem interesting. The kid detectives at twenty twenty film written and directed by evan morgan. If if that name sounds familiar. He directed the dirties. Which anderson. I think you assigned to me. Adam brody stars as the wait for it. Titular kid detective nolan kid. Of course he's grown up. We'll get into that. A second eighty four percent tomatoes This is streaming on stars. Hey heads up. This is not an ad getting the money for this but stars on amazon amazon is having a half price promotion The eight ninety nine is guess. Four forty nine per month for six months or something so if you want to get it on a stars killing killing with the movies Amazon is having a promotion through the end of this month which is just a few more days and also we don't talk about. Hbo max Splitting from prime. Which kinda screwed me up. I wasn't prepared or aware of that. And when i was trying to watch on. Hbo max is like your subscription has has expired what are you. What are you talking about expired. Everything's on auto renew. What are you doing here and it turns out. Hbo max They broke up with old prime over there. So now they have their. Hbo max themselves have a promotional offer where it's six months for half price seven fifty. If you get it straight from hbo max they also have a new section where you can watch ads much like hulu for less money per month. But they want people on the regular. I'm not doing an average built here. That's the last thing. I want to do their own by. At and t. Which is a fucking off from the underworld like eighteen but irrational pace yourself. Buddy come on sorry issues. but Yeah so a heads up a heads up for that if you're not check. Hbo max lately. It's probably expired. If you got through prime like i did anyway. I got a lot of deals to get out there. And yeah i. I got stars for ninety nine cents or something. It's you gotta do that. If you're a movie addict like we are in you. Watch every try and watch everything and They got deals. You gotta to keep your eye out kid. Detective get active. So i didn't do a deep enough dive anderson into the research the background. The genesis of this is what happened if encyclopedia brown grew up and became a sort of disenchanted adult still solving crimes. As zoo we start with a Idyllic impossibly idyllic childhood for adam brody's young character the kid detective solving crazy essentially encyclopedia brown for this town. He solving crimes like oh who kicked my dog. Or you know you feel like that to bit to bit stuff. it's very cute. And then we cut them all grown up and of course he's disheveled and he's just a disillusioned and it's adam brody and one. The first i laugh out loud. Anderson came during the opening credits. His parents who are now very very nice. Visit canadian film. So everyone's very polite even the you know the even the murderer you know. What's interesting about us as a canadian film. evan morgan. You may know that name evan. Morgan is the writer of a little movie that we both will. I loved absolutely called dirties. Do remember the dirties. I mentioned the dirty. As i said you assigned it to me. I was dealing with some moving stuff. Sorry god damn. I was getting text messages about my moving Van a moving company and they were trying to confirm dates on mckell. Yes yes please ma. What are you doing sits two days before we're moving. Why would you just be confirming with me now. You're driving me and say that. I haven't even told you because i was just waxing about only after his astor. Holy shit brian. We're moving in the data. They told us to move to actually hire the renter. The lubers which cost a guy damn fortune as you. I'm sure you know Yeah turns out we're not necessarily getting the keys Anytime before six. Pm the day that we're moving and we're scheduled to show up at the house with the moving truck at noon and they're our listeners. And i suppose just unload your stuff on the lawn very upsetting berry berry upsetting anyway during the opening credits we see adam brody now grown up the grown up kids tag talking to his Disappointed parents who were very nice. But they're like How's it going son. And he's like you know. Okay yeah have you had any cases lately just this one. I had to investigate. If this this was guy was gay. Oh was he a little. Oh that's nice. Isn't that kind of movie like he's got a very wry and droll was british style like conversational humor. There's all sorts of wordplay back and forth. Where it's maybe i'll have quite a few times at the way the characters talked but yes there is a there is a case a girl comes to him. It's not a here nor there. I don't want to spend too much about it but This is the idea being that this celebrated child detective has now grown up into maybe less celebrated detective. Yeah it's the story of the guy or girl who's peaked too soon. And there's many of us out there and there's many i'm thinking like the star athletes in high school who were like the quarterback and like they now they you know the bar back at the local tavern i. There's a lot of that in there where it was a bartender. There are back. Yeah he's a prodigy but now he just kind of like a joke he he sold this one case that involved a local eye candy ice cream shop and he gets free ice cream for life I mean that was bestowed upon him when he was the wonder kids kid detective and now here. He is an adult in his mid thirties. And he's still showing up for the ice cream and the guy and the ice cream shop owner is not happy to see him anymore. Dude i mean come on. What have you done gesture. And it becomes a Our mystery murder mystery detective story old dick story. It's a lot of it is is rooted in like films from the forties and the fifties. And if i think if you're a fan of those and you liked those kinds of movies that has a lot of fun with the tropes from those movies it's very very subtle. Brian said there's not really any laugh. Out loud moments. There was a couple that were set to be that. I think but didn't really work on me. I liked the scene involving a drug called an ego booster which it was. It was a good seem but it kind of screamed out. This was written by somebody who's never taken drugs in their life So it's i found that seemed to be very relatable That was probably the biggest lap ally moment. If it wasn't like here's here's an example. Giving anything away he snooping in this house that he doesn't have a warrant obviously because he's a guy damn kid detect grow detective so he doesn't have any actual authority Yet he's still doing his job trying to you. Know he's trying to make up for lost time and and crack this this murder case and he finds himself in this house and he snooping around many of you know it's the old trope y'all years the keys if someone to the front door he hides in the closet and instead of getting out of their smoothly. He's stuck in that closet for four hours watching this chunky. Kid listen to something. That sounds like coldplay On his computer. It's it's it's funny. And then he gets out of that scenario is situation and then he finds himself having to hide in the sister. The kids sister's room for god knows how long until things go more south but it's that kind of it plays with those kinds of tropes that we've seen thousands of times but it it doesn't. It was very clever. I i like the way plate of a lot of those tropes. Yeah i. This is one of those movies that i appreciate that that. It's a very good movie and there's an audience that's going to love this movie and unfortunately i just couldn't it to the point that i felt bad. Brian and i put it on a second time and watched it all the way through in the background for the most part looking up at certain things like while doing research and working and stuff but i watched the second time watched the last twenty minutes Just before this episode. To make sure that i you know i was really my head was in a game for it and it still just never really landed for me. But i've gotten emails from listeners. Who said they were plotting at the end of it That they absolutely loved it. It's been recommended to me a number of times including peter beta pain to watch it And i'm glad that i saw it And i appreciate it. It's just. It's not a movie that i think was that i. I don't like nor films. And that's this one's and adam brody It's just not somebody unfamiliar with. Or i don't really like them or dislike just kind of air you know. Would you like better. This or cry macho are like this. This is the best movie that i saw three really better cop shop off one of the cop shop for sure. This does a lot more than you did. I loved it. But i enjoyed it quite a bit so i was very smart. I love the way i played with. A of tropes thought it was funny in a very subtle kind of way unlike you. I laughed out loud at a couple of exchanges. I thought were very clever and really could have gone wrong in so many ways. Because this movie nailed i thought a very difficult tone which is certain points. It's very there's not a pathos you feel sad for certain characters. There's certain points very dark points. Legitimately funny so i totally agree tone. I totally agree and it was. It was it was. You're absolutely right and you nailed it with the The tone it was a very tough tone. And i feel like he did get there with it But i just. I couldn't access it and i wanted to. I just couldn't. I never really got to me at all but i appreciate it for the film that it was and i the the risk of sounding arrogant i i. I note that this was the best made film that i saw this week of the three. By far you sound very arrogant. Yeah i i mean i've given appoints because i know that it's a good movie but it's not a movie that i liked necessarily i didn't dislike and i just didn't love it at the end of the end. Really work for you. Because i think that it really has to sing at the end and i know you mean like the last shot the wrap up the the last shot the The the the the climax twist the climax of the movie talking about the scene with him and the other person or the with him and his parents both but mainly the the reveal. Yeah i thought that was i mean. It was a little predictable. But i thought that was there. There were lamp shading a trope does yes of course in the movie like this. The the person who done it the person who did it. It's going to be the you know maybe one of the you know the least one of suspect okay. All right didn't mind that. I didn't mind that at all. The actual ending ending with his parents i felt was a little bit of a cop out. It was like all right. We're going to. We're going to wrap it up little things not even little things like missed opportunities. I guess. Because i need a little more pop zing and my movies and when they're this subtle It it doesn't land with me but like his roommate was was obviously written for comic relief. Which is kind of annoying to me. his his secretary Who was like some kind of gough girl. My lifetime actually lives exchanges and understand that like she was placed there to show us. Just how out of touch is with younger people now and he's still called the detective yet. His his own secretary is much younger than him and much different than him because he didn't want nothing to do with them. You bring you bring her water. And that's like it was written by somebody who grew up in the nineties. They didn't feel true to like what would be going on right now. If it was a period fees. I little things like that. We're just kind of bugging. I guess but i was laughing. I lost it a few of their exchanges. I understand and i'm not confused as to why people love. There's plenty of movies out there who were. I'm just complete shock. That people like them but this is not one of them all right. Keep recording brian. I have to go run and deliver. The i'll be back in five minutes. Okay and says. I'm gonna start wrapping this bitch up because We are at the end of the episode. I will be flick fessing. It'd be is of tandy buffet next week it's a. It's a good movie of you guys. I don't know who is a truck down. I don't know if it's in a lot of playing out here in. La what is what is going on over there i was. How was filibustering here. We go all right. Let's see who am i thinking interesting notes over here. Thanks to pete a beta. Thanks pete for suggesting the kids at all suggesting signing the kid detective. That was very good. I enjoyed it. I'm glad i saw it. I'd not actually heard of it. Which may be is. Maybe is a shortcoming on my part. But i enjoyed it so thanks pete if you want to be a signer or decide if you want to assign us a top five to do for an episode or sinus movie to see and flicked best together. Just go on over to our patriots. Join at the signer or decider levels. Or if you're just like you know. What richard by blood sign up for the five dollars a month. That's very very cheap. And you get everything everything. Rewa everything that is the film vault at patriot on the film ball. Does our twitter handle involved with our facebook. Handle anderson and. Brian is the instagram handle. And of course. The website anderson and brian dot com coming up this friday top-five charismatic villains attended being a very robust topic. 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Episode 54B - Fistful of Dollars

The Stephen King Boo! Club

25:28 min | 10 months ago

Episode 54B - Fistful of Dollars

"Hello book club listeners. This is stephen indra sano. This week we are doing an extended. Which one do i shoot on the way for the sergio liana phoenix Classic fistful of dollars. So for those of you who haven't watched this. Oh lebron his Circuito lanny surge soda. Leon sore mouth her miami. We're very good at this whole comedy thing. I would just like to point out that you do award. Comedians lucky to be graced by our presence. Let's talk about this western. Yeah so a lot of you probably have seen the good the bad and not seen fistful of dollars. You have to go searching for this movie. is not on netflix. So let's do a quick overview not like a main points long overview like a one minute overview. You ray from start shooting all right okay. I know the first time i've ever addressed the audience directly like door fucking explorer. I like it. I like being like. Hey out there. 'cause i like to imagine like one of my friends kicking back. Listen to the podcast. I see you out there. You're in or doing the dishes or something swipe or no swiping okay. Don't swipe that shit. The man with no name comes to a small village on the us mexican border after a long trip. This is blondie from the good. The bad and the ugly doesn't have that name yet though he finds out from the innkeeper. The town is in turmoil over two warring groups the rojo brothers and their clan and the sheriff and his family members who were going to call the stranger from now on decides to make some money by playing both sides in both sides. Eat him up mostly. Because he's such a good shot. He sees the rojo brothers remote in esteban. Kill a small mexican troop who are carrying a gold loot and steal the chest. The stranger takes to the bodies from the truth to a cemetery. Intel's the rojo brothers that these guys survived. You gotta come to them. He then goes to the sheriff and says come quick. Get the testimony of these guys So that you can arrest the rojo brothers. Obviously the groups converged start. Shoot out in. The cemetery and esteban captures the sheriff's son. Ramon kidnaps local maiden name to mirasol who stranger kind of had his eye on holder. Stranger rates ramones cottage in saves mirasol giving her money to escape with her family. And ramon thinks the sheriff is responsible for freeing her than ramon finds out. There was actually the stranger. Ramon esteban torture stranger. But he escapes. The rojo brothers burned down the sheriff's house in massacre the family. The strange escapes town hiding in a coffin for sale. But when he gets to his destination he finds out that the innkeeper from the beginning of the story has been kidnapped by the rose says oh no And goes back wearing armor under his shirt. He taunts ramon to to aim for the heart and when runs on bullets because it they bounce off the iron under his shirt he kills ramon and every other member of their entourage. He rides away with the innkeeper on horseback. It's a weird one. It definitely feels like the rough draft of the character. You know isn't strange. Even to watch a movie where the plot is so loose and not in the dialogue then had explained to you. Yeah it's a little bizarre. The i think the thing that was weirdest for me about watching this movie. And we talked about this a bit on the last one. But i think it was even weirder from me on this one is all of the italian dudes playing mexicans was like weird and it's weird and bad because red faces weird bad but then also the italians are playing all the white characters like. It's all just italians and it just left me scratching my head. I was like man. I think this is a problem. But i honestly can't put a finger on why i do not know everything seems then is italian. Is it just race blind. Which isn't good. It's just weird is what it is. It's like a bunch of italians in clint eastwood. Just hanging out shooting things. I mean definitely like harmful stereotype stuff around. The mexican character is being. Like you know laughing rapists which is not a way that anyone should be portrayed I did think it was really weird. Just because of where we're at in politics right now watching a movie where. Clint eastwood helps a mexican family. Flee as refugees beyond the like mexican. Us border. That was a very strange experience for me. That was really weird. I was like man like we're in a different place also changed our italians racist against mexicans because italians are european mexicans and tally like can i say i don't have time to get into the race theory of italy and italians in america. I would love to. But that is a whole as other podcast. My friend i want to talk about is the continuation of my favorite western tropes. How far dramatic soup eating scenes that ladies and gentlemen there pay them friends. We have yet another dramatic soup eating scene and chest why to search the only food available in the west is soup. That's what i want to know. I think there was. I think it was cheap to produce. I think it was cheap to you. Know i think if you had a bunch of food to throw it together. I don't know maybe people eat it with like a big wooden panel and that's just how you eat thing. Everyone has their own ladle. Really is how it is in some places. God i would like to talk about my favorite Visual thing going on here which is close ups Some good ones. I did some digging into like how this spaghetti western squinty eyed close ups came to be. And apparently it's a mix of director. John ford's landscape cinematography which is like the wide shots mixed with a japanese operatic. Almost renaissance style close ups and that constant zoom in zoom out gives a unique feel to the peace and the close ups themselves Weren't the first close ups in fell. Obviously but they were a defining to the genre. Because the people that you are zooming in on weren't You know super caked with makeup super smooth white face as it was showing like this grigny american while they're all cleanings was a gritty american. Welcome to my bar. The grid tally. Wow that wouldn't fly in dc Also this fashion that we keep raving about as far as visual stuff. I look forward to that to clint. Eastwood created this wardrobe himself. Oh my god. He went to to nar hitting did it. All his himself he went to two adjacent stores in a town. One was a market like a grocery and the other was a sporting goods store and he bought black jeans and a stetson hat and cigars and he altered it all himself and showed up to set. Now we talk about fashion icons in the world right. We are very visual culture. We have a lotta instagram influencers. I would like to point out. Clint eastwood made cowboy fashion. And if he were alive now he would be the cowboy instagram or furniture. He'd be like i got these gucci jeans or whatever. I'm your god now. I'm your fashion boy. I think i mean he was a model right. He yeah he was a little i. I have looked and looked and there are surprisingly few like how to dress like clint eastwood fashion blog. Pages people are not paying attention to how much money you could make if you made very true replicas of of his wardrobe in these three movies i would buy that 'second that i ever seen. How drellich that just in case anyone's wondering like one in three chance when he record that phoenix is wearing cowboy boots. Like it's pretty often. I am wearing a cowboy hat right now. Yeah so yeah you might know about so imagine. Imagine a closet in a house in vermont with some soundproofing and a boy and a stetson hat. That is what it is it. Currently in my just view of things. I can see. There is a guitar pedal. There is a box of the stetson hat goes in. There is a staple gun. And that's really where my life is. You want to slice of phoenix. Crockett with your slice of clint eastwood this morning. I think we should take this over to the music. The music here is interesting to me because it is so identifiably the same composer the same genre playing with the same troops but it just doesn't scratch the itches. Well i mean clearly had to build up. Yes you ecstacy of gold. This was practice and it was good. But it was like taking old themes from lullabies he'd written decades earlier like he's just develop what i love about. The instrumentation is just fascinating to me. Like how he arrived at these. Like three person choruses where they'll just come in and it's always like whoa like in some some combination of just like very simple jumps off arena. The guitar i just want to know. Why did you pick these instruments because they just work so well using guitar primarily as a rhythm instrument never as a lead much like mariotti is definite mariachi influence especially when the trumpet comes in trumpet in this soundtrack for me is the shining. Glory is the thing that makes this a good soundtrack. Not in the same way. That like the other ones connick amazing soundtrack. But still you listen to the soundtrack. Good music yeah. I really love that. There is the arrangement the group arrangement. What he guthrie's pastures of plenty that is who will americana and presenting that through europeans as this is the american music. I think is great. 'cause once again like this movie would just not work without the music. It's hard to overstate how much the music is important to the texture and tension and feel of these movies. There are who there were westerns made this year and lots of other westerns made before and a lot of westerns made after. But why is it that. If i ask you dear listener to name a bunch of westerns. You're going to name this trilogy and butch cassidy and the sundance kid. Because fashion and music madder cannot just have the regular elements by themselves for the general consumer ship for the non western fan. Now i keep on talking about introducing europe to american themes and stuff. I mean alfred. Hitchcock was doing that way before any of the rest of us by this movie really was only in europe for a long time. It did not sell that many tickets. Some italians away to see it. It sold slightly more tickets than normal in france in spain. The english hated it. So you can imagine like witnessing this on a big old italian films. Green and being like this is america. Yeah i'm an american. And i watched this and i was like oh man. This is what america must be like. Not a single scene of it is shot in america. Every single seat is the desert of italy. But i really do feel like. I'm going to travel to italy and be like This is the american west. Like it's i can't imagine. And because again like i most of my traveling in america has been east coast. Not a big surprise there. I don't know that. I've ever been to an american desert. I don't think i've even like i haven't even three one. I think i flew over one once and that is not the same experience. I guess i drove through the desert in utah but the utah desert with the mormons is not the callahan desert now. How utah mormon listeners has got to be one. This got to be one. I want to know if you're a utah. Mormon listening to this just drop a line. We're curious what do you think about the show. I will say that utah and this is not a joke is consistently the state that we have the least downlands and that is true. Might have the least download in utah. Please get your utah friends to to listen to this. Show the every now and then we'll just have a month where no one from utah and it's just utah and i don't know what we're doing. Second-lowest is new mexico. and i gotta say albuquerque. I'm hurt albuquerque. I'm hurt is the name of your new country album. You can have that one for three so moving forward here this movie Part of white did make as much money as it could have was because of litigation really. It's been accused of being a rip off of a japanese film called eugene bow. Or i don't know how jays pronounce japanese we're going with yo jimbo Does not go on. They settled out of court. Got out of now. A huge percentage of sales as well as one hundred thousand upfront. I watched some of this movie. I don't get it. But i also don't understand film and a jury and a judge and a bunch of experts like holy crap. It's a direct rip off so interesting you to the point where they couldn't really fight it so then why why does fucking hold on. Brandfort can picture his face Did kill bill Tomorrow now cure. Tartan do kill bill. Oh god i know who this person's name is. He did also a pulp fiction. Yeah he sure did go unchain. Oh my god. Why can i picture is face. In his foot fetish pulp fiction. Type type type tip. Thais man's is the tino why is quinton tarantino. Allowed to do with quentin tarantino does when it's very clear we just a pastiche of other cooler filmmakers. And he doesn't get sued is sergio. Leone has to deal with your jimbo. That is an intense statement. I am not going to go Not going to pick up a middle leave it right there on the ground is gonna leave that on the table. Are you in any case. We are next week going to be doing a few dollars more. Which is the middle movie between these two movies and for a long time. The last of our western blogging. After that after that we gotta go do the dark tower comic bucks. Well yeah and also we have like other stephen king books to hit ya. That's true we're doing Buick eight i think is next buick gate at an enlightened maybe man what are we going to ho gonna do. I think we should just read you a gate wearing cowboy hats. It's true we'll just continue all of our besides for the entire year gonna be cowboy blackhawks one hundred percent. We're just splitting it down the middle. You know it's now. One half stephen king fan cast one half cowboy fan cast. I think you know before we go. We should do the traditional favorite shot least favorite shot like really dig into the what people come to podcast for which is light. Small talk about cinema. I have to say that some of my favorite shots in this movie are just the shots that are posters. There are so many like shots from this movie. That are joss posters in undergrad room for example when he first gets into town. And you see the big white sheriff's office in the background and the mountains behind that and it's he and his black jeans and his sheepskin vest his cigar in his green poncho and macy's yesterday. Yeah and it just pauses there for a long time so that you get to take it in. There's a lot of scenic vista stuff. And i think that it's easy to just weep over it. It does deserve like no no seriously. All of the landscape work in this is gorgeous My favorite shot. This was one that i thought was very like. Fill me in a way that we don't get you know in horror. We don't get as quite as many filming touches until pretty recently. It's just not worth the genera liked to look for a long time. The final shot as he's writing off into the distance they do this pan over the desert and they very briefly linger on a wooden post that featured very early in the movie. And it's kind of the moment that clint eastwood decides that he's gonna stick around town and deal with some ruffians. He's being shot at in the very beginning of the movie Some people scare his horse off and he grabs the top of this post and kind of like hangs off of it as his horse runs away. So he's not injured and he's kind of he comes out okay and then the lash out of this movie as they're heading out of town. The town is like massive. There's no one left alive in this town. And they just linger on the signpost so briefly as if to say like things have changed. Do you remember when the whole town existed. Because it doesn't anymore. There goes clint eastwood. I'm sergio leone. Go watch more cowboy movies now absolutely and this is not a Shot thing but on the note of like decision making in cinema. I also love the acting of clint eastwood. When he decides after having escaped in town through a coffin salesman coffins jumping in a coffin from a guy who sells coffin as we got out of town and he finds out that the innkeeper he met for a few minutes and in the perfect cowboy. Seen you know slaps a coin on the table until they need a hot meal and a bottle of tequila. And you know what i mean of course reporter for the night. Here's a gold coin that guy. He felt so strongly about that. You see his face just ever so slightly change as he sets his teeth in. It's like i guess. I guess we're sure version. It's time to commit some murder. Yeah i i think the the last thing on touch on before we wrap the books on the the first and astrology. The first trilogy where we did. Yeah we go on. Three one to which i think is the traditional way to do this in american. It is the last thing i want to say about this. One is just like i again relating it back to the dark tower universe. The experience of watching this movie as the first in the trilogy feels very much lake reading the first dark tower book where they're just sketching out the character and some of the themes and it's just one very small part of a very large journey. This doesn't have the same kind of sense of urgency or purpose. That good bad and ugly does. And i think it's okay because it's really a lot shorter but it's it's really just acquainting you with one really. Enigmatic character one character. That's gonna take you a long time to figure out. And i think that that works really well for there's genre and i honestly at gregory because again like you're much more than i am. It feels like that's something that's defining genre is a character that you just can't you can't quite get your hands around for a while. Oh definitely if you look at like the major movies that we're going to have to cover eventually no country for old men. There will be blood. It's got that same kind of Quality to it for sure. Nothing like john wayne where you can eat it up immediately right. Hey do we have any recommended readings for this one. I feel like we should send the listeners out with something to consume. If they liked this movie and i keep going you go for it. So if you're liking spaghetti westerns and you wanna watch other spaghetti westerns. That are like exactly like this but aren't going to be one of the ones that we are covering. I have some options for you. We've got Once upon a time in the west with henry fonda and charles bronson back a couple years after this one and sort of still sergio leone and took the genre a slightly different direction. we also have The ballot of josey wales no. Sorry the outlaw. Johnny whales which is another clint eastwood one and my personal favourite set of pre-civil war like very much more. I don't know little house on the prairie e times and gives a more human view of the characters as well as the character that cleans woods playing while still being up. you know. Shoot 'em up totally. I appreciate those recommendations. Ought to check them out. When i have a moment. I gotta say this series is making me into cowboys cowboys. I'm getting roll into cowboys My recommendation is going to be from the world of horror movies. I said a little bit earlier. That horror doesn't always do the whole like filming language thing super well but there have been some really really notable exceptions to that. I want to recommend kinda two movies to watch close together if not kind of at the same time one of which is the original wicker man. has some really beautiful cinematography and then mid somare which is the best movie. I never want to watch again in my life Which is absolutely a cinematography movie. That's a movie where shots have. Meaning shots have depth. Shots are gorgeous. And i think that it's why partly why it gets a lot of praise. It also gets a lot of praise because it's deeply distressing and we're also jaded by horror movies that we really need to just be like kicked in the heart to feel anything anymore. And which midsummer. We'll do midsomer will open your soul and piss in to go check that out for a good little fun time yup. Thank you dear listener. And if you celebrate. Christmas merry christmas. Yeah we're like right there And celebrate solstice than two days. Late happy solstice if you are just going to wait around for new year happy new year. If you're waiting around for the new year other cultures will probably not mentioned. Those might come up. Honestly we don't. We're not that culturally literate. Unfortunately tells me they're happening and what you do for them. We will that on the episode. Yeah gray thank you for spending the time with us next week we are going to be covering the last in this run of dark tower books before we set back on our usual chronological force. We will be covering the wizard and the glass until next time. Catch us then. Thank you for joining us by by salone partner alpacas and like western music consider usual.

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Episode 175: The Mule + Unforgiven

The Film Buds Podcast

1:03:54 hr | 4 months ago

Episode 175: The Mule + Unforgiven

"Hello everybody welcome back to the thumb. Buds podcast. This is episode number. One hundred and seventy five and my name's henry and i'm paul this week. We have a bit of a clint eastwood. Special for you We have a review of the mule from twenty eighteen or should should sake to clint. Eastwood directed films the mule And then unforgiven from nineteen ninety two and then we have a listener question concerning clint eastwood. So it's going to be a bit of a lot of clint paul all right now. If you're okay with that. I mean we certainly signed up for it so i mean i guess it goes without saying that it makes sense. Our listener question would also so. Yeah thanks again for joining us. Once again paul. Doing i'm doing well. You know just sort of hanging out you know nothing too much new report honestly you know how to a nice weekend celebrated juneteenth. My my parents are of town. I didn't celebrate father's day with my dad. But i we celebrated my mom's birthday With both of my parents the left town so now about you. Too much really. I went up to the mountains this past week at than the blowing rock boone area of north carolina. So that was that was nice. I hadn't been there for a fair bit of time. So that was nice and other than that yet. Kinda same here kinda uneventful unexciting but a good week. Who study week so yeah. I guess not a whole lot else to mention really paul. Anything for you in particular. No not really well okay. Well we're we're killing it this week we are. You know we're just yeah. Well i guess with all that that said i guess we can go in and get into some some movie reviews so let's get to The mule from twenty eighteen and we do have a clip so take a listen helps her. Oh officer high need help no no. I'm fine thank you. But he got their pecans. I delivering pecans to my niece. Pecans pecan she makes peak empire ever tasted. I feel sorry for her husband but pecans. Oh i don't know what's wrong with this dog every fifteen minutes okay so the mule is directed by clint eastwood. And it also stars. Clint eastwood bradley cooper. Michael pana omar. This is all mixed up. let's see clifton collins junior. Yeah cheese Who the wife can't remember her name. Well your you can look. Look all that stuff on your own. The synopsis is a ninety year. Old cultural list and korean war veteran turns drug mule for a mexican cartel. So yeah this one. A couple years ago when came out and he's done. I guess he did richard jewel since then and i think he has one more coming up. So he's just churning out. Paul had you seen this. I had not no okay. I suggested we do this one. So would you like to kick things off shore. So i hadn't. I hadn't seen the mule. I'd seen some some clint eastwood. You know movies. Some that he had just started in some that he had directed You know it seemed like grande torino and here after sullied edgar in victis sought a i think years ago. I did see space cowboys. So i've seen a bit of clint. I think he is fine. I think that lately. I haven't been as interested in some of his stuff so i haven't really seen a lot of his his stuff more recently up to including the mule didn't really know what to expect what i was getting into and i don't know it was. It was fine. Yeah the it's it's kind of You know it's a typical. Clint eastwood movie where he gets to. Sort of data around and be old man. Clint eastwood great stuff. And that sort of my my wide shout review. What about you. Yes so. I i kinda just. I don't have a you know some huge attachment to this movie. I kinda just chose it. Because i feel like the last couple of episodes up picking my absolute favorite of a director and i feel like i been. I tried to distance myself a little bit. And for the most part i really liked. Clint eastwood I kind of grew up with a lot of his like to thousands direct royal efforts. And so i. I like him a fair bet because it's just a very classical style. There's not a lot of flare. Sometimes there should be. But you know i think for the most part it works out. Well i i agree that a lot of his films recently have not been great. They've been you know watchable but it's pretty middle of the road. I mean he's kind of notorious for doing like one take You know for a scene and and all that stuff and sometimes that really shows like american sniper which we talked about on the show was not very good like jersey boys the fifteen seventeen to paris things like that are pretty subpar like flax fathers and letters from you jima. I like j. Edgar to a certain extent and i actually joined richard jewel a little bit but anyways this one i saw in theatres dan have a whole lot of interest in seeing it but i was bored. Went and watched it and i agree. It's i like it. I like the simplicity of it. And and i think one thing that clint eastwood has going for him is. There's not a lot of ninety-year-old leading actors you know and so in a way. I enjoy watching him on screen. Just because there's so much experience there and it's kind of rare that you get that these days and i do really like his performance. i find. I even thought this in the theater. So bradley cooper this came out. I guess three years ago. Now when i saw this. I felt like this was a movie that he did like ten years ago but it only came out now because yes roll kind of seems beneath them at the time. Yes like by twenty twelve twenty thirteen. He was doing like silver linings playbook place beyond the pines american hustle. Really meaty roles. And i was thinking like what. Are you doing this movie. of course. obviously. It's a clint eastwood movie. If you want to be in a in a for that reason that's fine and he had been an american sniper as well before this. But i agree. It's kind of coasts along their moments. I like about it and it's probably slightly better than a lot of his films right before this and yeah i know i guess. That's my kind of long winded review initial review and again. It's not not one. I chose it because i didn't have a big attachment to it. Just because i kind of wanted to look at them from a more objective perspective. No i completely get that. I completely get where you're at with bradley cooper. You know i mean. This wasn't too far off from like a star is born you now. This is after rocket raccoon. Like you know. We're dealing with like definitely a list of bradley cooper. So i have no idea. Why isn't this movie especially since It's not a very meaty part. It's it's a very by the numbers prestige. Fbi guy kind of role for him. And michael pena both honestly. It's even a little bit below. It's a little bit not saying that. The actress below anything. You know if the parts right now in a good part than than it's a good part but like these were three very generic. Fbi guy boss fbi guy lead fbi guys second. And you waste laurence fishburne. Michael opinion bradley cooper in all three of the parts. They waste Andy garcia as the gang leader of the cartel. Whatever right so a lot of of actors and characters are characters are filled by that have a lot of like pedigree that it feels like. They came in did this because it was a clint movie. Which i don't know maybe if this a martin scorsese film. I'd feel more inclined to just show up but like you know a clint eastwood film. I saw the trailer for jersey boys that was enough sauve out in theaters. I'm sorry me too so you know. I think it's definitely an odd movie for me. I think that it falls into like to. It's it's fine at falls into two of his worst 'isms for me and those are the weird kind of i'm an old man who doesn't understand modernism and pc culture of like a grande torino. And then we get it a little bit here. It's more charming. I think quotes around charming here than it is in grant arena where he's meant to be sort of you. Know an irredeemable asshole but it it has that going for it which makes for a lot of just like weird cringe awkward moments with ninety year old clint eastwood but on the other Say i did love when he was like absolutely ragging on like millennials and cell phones and internet amazing stuff just absolutely tearing them a new one and just grumpy. Old man clint. You don't get that much these days and then the other issue is that. I think you run into a little bit in our next movie. Unforgiven he does just sometimes. Just sorta let things happen. You know and not unlike a a sort of robert altman way. It's like a slice life. Sort of moment. It's just sort of like why this like. We really could cut right here at you know. We could have trimmed up on some of these. You know tracking shots of his truck moving through a landscape. You know we really could trimmed up certain things Or not even trimmed up. We just could have put scenes in certain spots that i think would have helped the movie because honestly for me. It's whole theme of you. Know you gotta you gotta hold onto your family. I think was just talked about a lot more than it was ever shown If that makes sense yeah and also one thing. And i mean we can get to with unforgiven but like and i've talked about on the show lot. Clint eastwood is at the point. Where he really has no subtlety in his movies he may have you know themes and ideas like black and white black gray and white but there's no real intertwining of those who ever and and this there are some pretty you know kind of i roll scenes of him talking about or someone talking to him about how he disregarded his family and things that discussions that you would never really here and mary written and he's not doesn't how have the finesse to really work. That naturally just feels very forced and very sentimental. And so you know i. I don't know he. There are touching moments. I think and i enjoy him getting involved with the cartel and just doing and it just showing him. Doing these runs. These drug runs. And i kind of like the even if it's very fairly simple. I like how the relationships kind of develop a little bit over time and not that you would want to be friends with these people by the key in a way. Kind of charming to see the nine year old guy. Disc- talking and joking with his like a drug dealers in a way and i feel like i had something kind of big to say. But it'll come to me in a second. I think no worries. No i definitely. I think for me. I did enjoy those little bits of him. Interacting with other people and that sort of that led leads me into one of my might things that i think could have improved this movie for me. Which is that. I needed the movie. I think to focus up on certain things a little bit tighter and let some other things sort of fall aside. You know to to better serve the theme of it. You know 'cause. I think that we cut away to like his family and him interacting with his family and him interacting with his community and we have a few scenes of him with some of the guys mostly at the garage. We have him having lunch with his handler. The like once And then we have like the party scene and so then we also get. We have like the interaction that he gets with with bradley cooper about bradley cooper needing to fix his life and he's sort of spreads this theme of you know you need to be a part of your family with everyone but it doesn't feel echoed anywhere else you know. He tries to have this moment with his handler after the party. Where he's like. You should give this life up and you should quit. You should find a different life because these people don't care about you and it came really out of left field for me. Because i was like these. These guys haven't bonded yet. I am seeing these guys bond yet and with bradley cooper you know it was like we're we're so busy putting in some other scenes like we didn't ever once have like the the sort of nearing of bradley cooper on the hunt for this guy. Not being at home missing birthdays being home late so forth but it just got told to us. You know it wasn't like we. We saw that. It was happening to bradley. Cooper and then. Clint talked to him and we saw clint without his family. So it just felt very vague and very scattershot in sort of how was trying to handle it. And i feel that's why we ended up having like a lot of just people converse aiding and lecturing and telling us about clinton his family and how important his family was my favorite scene. That was really about him and his family was when he goes to see his wife is played by diane waste. And she's dying. And i think that's probably one of the best parts for many regarding him and family in the movie But for the rest of the time i felt like it was very scattershot very vague and didn't really incorporate the theme as fully as it could have even in his interactions with people Yeah i and also with the the handler sub plot or storyline. Not only is it not set up as to how they've been bonding but also. There's no payoff really for that. At the end of the last thing that you see the handler and is when they're in the woods and there's that threat of violence. And i guess that is meant to be okay. He's made his choice. He's staying with the cartel but it's not satisfying enough to where you're like. You see him make that decision in his mind okay. I'm i'm disregarding what clint said. I'm staying with this this group and so there's no set up. There's no scenes of them together. And clint eastwood sing hump. Maybe this guy is smarter than you know he. He looks or doing something more than is expected of him. But there's not that and so that could easily have been lost. And i do like the scene at the end where he is in court and he says guilty like he says yeah. I'm i've done it. That's it and even though it is kinda fairly on the nose. I do like the the line that he gives of. He could buy everything but time. I i think that works well. And and i think there is. There are moments with clint eastwood in his performance. That are touching and you see that kind of classic performance. Come through which i like. Yeah also one thing across really all of his movies. I really enjoy clint eastwood's scores so some people don't But i i really. It's like somebody just simple piano or guitar and i. that's something i always enjoy. No yet his movies are pretty unfussy. And they're they're pacing is very unfussy. And i think that sometimes that can be a good thing and sometimes that can be a hindrance to varying degrees. And here you know i don't. I don't think it hurt. Hurt the movie. But i also certainly don't think it helped it in any way either Yeah i i like the scene were. He's with the Drug sniffing dog. I like that same where he gets pulled over. I enjoy that and I mean for me. I mean you're talking about. There could have been fewer scenes of him driving across the desert. But i think for the most part. I just enjoyed being with with clint eastwood in the truck. Seen him do his thing. And i think that when he got involved more with cartel that's when it became less interesting more generic for me and i think also it felt the pacing kind of fell. Got a kind of dragged at that point. I wasn't interested in in all of that. And so i enjoyed the simplicity of the first half where he is kind of growing within the cartel and just driving around. Yeah no. I completely agree with that. I think that i have almost enjoyed it more. If it had been this weird sort of slice of life movie that never got too complicated and it was just this weird story of this. You know this old guy just bacon friends in in criminal land and like you know what what the hell is that life like. I think that it would have been. I think for me is slightly more enjoyable experience 'cause yeah the the fbi stuff is all that stuff is just a really big kind of like bylanes. Procedural mike it's easily the most Dull part of the movie. Yeah and one. Small logic issue so towards the end of the movie the f. b. i. r. or d. or trying to track down a black truck and so they're stopping a ton of black trucks on the highway. Why don't they paint the truck a different color of all the resources and the money that they have. I feel like say. Hey let's paint it white. Let's paint it blue. That could be done fairly easily. Not not a big deal but that seems like a a cartel that's like would be one of their first ideas here. Let's change the color of or let's get you a different truck. Yeah absolutely no there. Were definitely you know. A few a few logic breaks for shore along those lines. Nothing too major. But that's definitely the biggest one of all my only other honest big note for the movie would probably just be the daughter. His daughter finally her her father in deciding that she loves him for me came completely out of left field. I also really enjoy her like almost making a joke. When he's being carted off to go to jail for the remainder of his. I'm i'm like what did you as did you really make this joke right now. I guess we'll always know where you are like. Oh my god. I couldn't believe it i was. I was pretty astounded. The movie through that when in their classic clinton comedy on your one weird thing did you know that So tesa you say tastes for miya who plays the granddaughter. Who did you know that. She's vera for meagre for migas sister. Not better yet. The younger sister. Yeah very strange. They really looked like they should be mother and daughter not sisters to me. There's there is like a decent age gap on them. But also i feel like we've seen vera for me. Gophers she has that affects certain actors. Have that effect for me of like. I've seen you for such an extended period That even if i caught you when you were really really young and now you're only like forty mentally to me. You're just sort of like ancient. Because i've been seeing you. Yeah you know since. I was knee high to a grasshopper raven. Simone isn't that old raven. Simone is is like methuselah age to me like. I'm i'm astounded the gene still with us. But it's just. Because i've seen her since i was little like the as long as i can remember. I've seen raven simone on a screen. So i think that that some of your dissonance the way that The sister got into it with. She started out playing like a younger version of vera. In a movie right now. How does this compare to some of the other recent. Clint eastwood movies. You've seen my favorite of like okay. If i were to look at when they look at his movies and i'm going to i also need to look at. Oh changeling is my favorite favorite of his. Yeah so if we're counting like clinton's anything like from i'm going to say after twenty ten. My favorite thing from after twenty ten is probably sully. It's simple movie. But i love tom. Hanks i enjoy the story. I love how he used imax cameras for the whole thing. I think it gives it a really nice big look. I really enjoyed it. And i thought that it was just like a really funds straightforward little movie so. I really enjoyed sully. Probably the most out of out of everything from twenty ten if i go beyond that than my favorite. Clint eastwood movie is probably clint eastwood directed movie. I guess i should be specific. Probably letters for me jima. That's probably my favorite of his overall. Yeah all right Anything else about the mule. no. I don't think so. Yeah okay out of five stars good. I'll get. I'll give it like a two and a half all right. I'll go. i'll go light three point five. Okay very light like just hit. You got lucky. Lucky clinton you know cool. Well i guess then we can get onto unforgiven and we also have a for this. Take a listen speaker on this astonishment. Thousand dollars clear out of their rents here a cowardly pitch shot an unarmed man armed himself all right so as i said before unforgiven was released in nineteen two and it's also directed by clint eastwood ends and stars as well as well as gene. Hackman morgan freeman. Richard harris saul rubenesque francis. Fisher anna thomson james wolf. It my forgetting anybody. No i think that's everyone okay. And the synopsis is retired old west gunslinger william money Reluctantly takes on one. Last job with the help of his old partner and ned logan and a young man the scofield kit. So this one paul. You suggested we do this. Yes so why. Don't you take it away. Sure this one had quite a shelf life. And i think i saw it for the first time back in college and i heard it was like one of these great western's and i was like okay. I guess i have to watch it. You know to be accepted by the the cool kids. And at the time i i liked it. I love it and rewatch rewatching it. Excuse me think. I'd seen it. Since then i feel about the same. I don't love it as much as some people do. I think clint eastwood is great in it as well. I mean everybody. Great in it. Morgan freeman and gene hackman. And as people no i love western's and so that draws me in for sure Pretty much my only issue with me both times says i find the middle. Kind of drags for me. Yeah and also and i feel like this. I'm starting to sound like a broken record here. For some reason. I couldn't get fully invested in the story. I feel like we're a few episodes. And now i'm saying the same thing but the first time and this time i've watched it. I felt like. I was never really in it. But i like the ideas of you know the the gunslinger kind of dying a red dead redemption. Ask kind of tail. And also the idea of western film kind of dying and western stars. Such as clint eastwood kind of fading out of of memory and popularity. And i think all of that stuff is very interesting and just the the good versus evil and how that can be kinda twisted around is quite compelling and emotional so overall i think it's solid. It's not one of my favorites of his or one of my favorite westerns. But i think it's worth a watch. And i see why some people really love it. No yeah. I think that that's pretty fair. I think that that's pretty close to where i hit. So i've seen parts of it over the years. But i've never sat down and watch it and watched it in one full sitting so i thought that it was really interesting. I liked a lot of. I like some of the character work. My favorite character of the whole thing was probably not because he's a good person in any way but probably was gene hackman just because i thought that he was the most interesting from moment to moment and i thought he was the one with like the the strongest sort of world view and sense of things. I think definitely has a lot of those elements of you know sort of the gunslinger at the end of of his time. Kind of like with john. Wayne's the shooter or you know even with a modern comic book movie like logan but it definitely has that issue you know again of. It's it's a slow movie not a not even really like a slow burn it is. It's just kind of a slower movie. And then that's a fine choice. There's nothing wrong with that but it definitely feels like there were there were moments that could have been tightened up a little bit In the name of run time because it's to our ten minute movie yeah Which is not like the longest thing in the world but it needed to be just a little bit more fine tuned. I think you know there were there. Were definitely some scenes that just sort of seems to drag for not much of a particular reason That's kind of where i'm sitting with it for the most part. Yeah and i thought clinton was just okay in it. I mean he in this film he kind of has that almost like stereotypical. Clint eastwood's performance. The i guess maybe people will try. And you know joke about now where. It's this very stern kinda monotone very grisly kind of delivery. And i think sometimes that works really well but also at times. I can't help but think about the parodies. And things like that. That have been done and i feel like his performance in this feels a little bit dated and and i like i. I'll talk about it. And what we watch watched dirty harry and that was a twenty years before this and i think that kind of performance still holds up totally and so i think that his performance in this is not one of his best I think it's probably in terms of his direction. Probably one of the stronger ones. I like the look of the movie as well i think. There's the Scofield kid character. Who's kind of you know. Lies through his teeth about what he's done and and really brags about it but at the end of the day. He's kind of scared little kid. And i like that angle. Like morgan freeman character and how that that triangle bounces off each other and i think the scene the whole sequence at the end in the rain at the the saloon is awesome i love all of that and even just the sound design of that scene is great but other than that you know again it. Does it drags in a little bit for me in the middle. And i'm i feel at times i struggle to get really invested in the characters. What's going on now for sure. And i think that that's because the the stoicism of classic. Clint eastwood characters. Here just comes across as as just sort of wooden. It doesn't feel like he's really in it the way that he needs to be honestly until that that last few moments of the movie. He's he's been shooting movies for awhile and he had been by the time that he was doing unforgiven. Eight his his life doing westerns and he definitely knows how to make a movie that looks like a classic hollywood western his paste a lot like old hollywood western but i think that he managed. I do think he manages to put some interesting themes throughout the movie. I think it's interesting. How i think the strongest thing for me about the movies that it's it's about a sort of trio of characters who are not necessarily meant to be good cable You know the skull field kid. Even though he's a liar at this point in time you know he's he's pretending to be a killer. You've got ned who's a former tiller and gunslinger. And you've got bill. Who's a former killer. In or william. Who's a former gunslinger in killer. But slowly the movie really assures you in builds on the notion that the antagonists of the movie is the sheriff of the town. You know it's it's it's gene hackman and they start out by making him a sort of interesting classic gene. Hackman character of you know is good as he bad. He's a little bit in the gray area but he definitely drifts further and further into into the black and. I think that it was a really. I think that was a really good ark for his character and i also like the fact that you know money had a home. Ned had a home gene hackman house that had no other family in had no one else in it with him and it was this sort of ramshackle crooked leaky unreliable thing. I think that he did some clever stuff throughout the movie. But no it definitely is a harder to get into. I mean for example. You know a my wife did completely fall asleep during this one. Yeah she managed to make it through the mule but but she got pretty cozy while we were watching unforgiven. She just completely tapped out during that middle. That that you talked about you know being a little bit slow. Yeah also one idea. And the movie that i like is kind of tackles this idea of someone getting what they deserve. Even if they don't always end up getting it so like someone who you know an evil person who should be taking down isn't always taken down but sometimes others are. And i like how that the movie especially within the western context tackles that idea and i think that's really interesting and the good and bad of all parties involved and You know it's. I really prefer just talking about his westerns. I really prefer some of his earlier. Ones not even just once. He's directed like the sergio leone trilogy and a lot of the earlier ones that he directed in the in the seventies and eighties. If even if he didn't direct all of those. I kind of like outlaw. Josey wales and stuff like that. Yeah yeah and so. I for the most part. I very much prefer those over this one. Okay yeah no. I think that's very fair. I mean. I'll probably go back to this one again. But it's probably. There will probably be other westerns. That i revisit before. I revisit this one. Yeah for sure. Yeah i mean it's you know it's worth watching for sure if you're a western fan even if you don't love it by the end i think it's it's still worth a watch and there's a lot to unpack there and you know it definitely. It was pretty defining film in his filmography. No yeah at the time will in you know. I think it's it's it's interesting for me to go back to the movies you know. It was born in ninety two. So it's interesting for me to go back to movies from when i was born and when i was growing up that you know i didn't see at the time didn't have access to at the time and and compare them to some of the other movies that i have already seen from that time. You know so. It's interesting thing that one year after unforgiven you know you have jurassic park coming out. Yeah you know it's interesting to think about. What else was coming out at that time. Who else was working at those times. And also it kind of speaks to the movie itself in terms of what it's saying where you know. The western is kind of dying like the next year. We had drastic park. You know and said the after that had pulp fiction you know yeah and the cowboy has always been an iconic film. I mean he was an icon of silent film and that he he kind of had a little bit of a falling out and then he came back and and then he fell out a little bit and he never really came back to like full prominence. That story at the the story at the core of it is essentially someone with their own sort of vigilante code. You know working outside of the means of what's considered normal to do the right thing the just thing what have you. And so that archetype may have changed out of the the western form but it still definitely very much alive in in media at transition into cop stories where you had you know. Even things like dirty harry. And now i would say that it's probably most modern. Equivalent is the superhero people like punisher Or even tony stark. You know really when you boil it down. Aren't all that much different than you know. A man who who goes and takes up his rifle to ward off you know invading marauding outlaws also. I like how he kills gene hackman at the end. I like how it actually goes for. It doesn't know absolutely also while i was playing or while i was watching it. I realized how much of this was a reference point for red dead to because there's an entire plot about It's it's a be plotted suicide mission. That's about a a gunslinger whose an old drunken laos and his telling all of these stories to a biographer. And he has arthur go out and talk to all of these former outlaw gang members of his all of them are like that guy is completely full of shit and then at the very end of it you capture one guy and bring him back and the two of them get into a dual and will actually. They're they're potentially going to dual and the one guy refuses and he gets shot in the back. And then you end up shooting the outlaw and they right away into the biography is it. Was this last epic showdown between the two classic lobby and man. I love red dead redemption value again. So much are works of art. Yeah all right anything else about unforgiven almost a criminal. Misuse of of morgan freeman almost. Yeah out of five stars them. I'll i'll go three. Maybe three and a half years ago. Three and a half. Yeah i feel like. I rated at four stars on letterbox. But i think i was just being generous. Turn half yeah. Yeah in half so all right. I guess we can get going to the next thing. So the film butts podcast at g mail dot com is where you can reach us at all so facebook twitter and instagram at film. Buds and also at the film buds dot com. And so if you're a new listener or if you have been listening for awhile you can send us any questions comments. Greetings anything you'd like to see more of or less of on the show so we love here from and the one we got. This week was from On via facebook facebook page and it comes from kep and keep says hi guys. i see. you're doing a show on clint eastwood. He's one of my favorite actors and directors. What do you think of his career. Do you think he's one of the last true quote unquote movie stars. Love to know what you think on the matter. Yep well palm. And we've. I mean we've talked about him a little bit already but that you know. Clint eastwood is deserving of the ice. That i counter our legend Lotta people refer to him as what thinking. I'm not sure that he's i'm not sure that he's one of the last great like movie stars. I think he is one of the last vestiges of like classic hollywood on a certain level and i know that that sounds like i'm splitting hairs and i suppose on a certain level i am but i feel like it's it's a little bit of a distinction. Just because a movie star for me at age is probably someone who achieved huge success. Big big name and like you know was was pretty much. Also just one thing. I think in that thing was probably enactor whereas clinton has has sort of dabble around enough and also there is a whole generation. Who i think has no idea really who clint eastwood is right. So i think that he's. He's one of the last. you know. Sort of classic vestiges of older bygone era of hollywood. But i'm not sure that i would call him last great star on his career overall. It's it's as mixed bag as any you know. Everyone has highs. everyone has lows. Some people have more some people have more highs. Some people have more lows so i. I think that it's pretty indicative of someone. Who was you know working in the studio system for a long time. He was like a studio director and so some of those things were probably things that he really wanted to do. And some of those things were probably things that he just got for a long time. And i think that he'll always be remembered for certain things but i'm not sure you know if i fling myself. Fifty years into the future. Do i think that there will be a handful of clint eastwood things that we still talk about. Yeah do i think that will be talking about clint eastwood still on the same level as we do today. Probably not and i think that there will probably be other. I think that will always be known for his involvement. Really in westerns. I think that there will probably be specific actors and directors who are known for their overall careers more than clint I mean the point. I mean not to get like two morbid here but i think i will be very sad when he dies like when he's no longer there. I'll be very upset even if we're not getting or even if he's not putting out the best work right now i'll be very sad when he passes away. I hope that's not for a long time. But he is someone of kind of aging classic. Hollywood that i'm glad he's there or he's here you know and you know he did help to kind of i guess cement or popularize. The you know a a some version of anti hero rebel character and i guess he did help to in some ways. Keep the western alive for awhile. And he made some great ones and really some of the best of all time and it seems now in terms of how his films do he still has an audience. Like the meal was surprised. Made a ton of money really. Yeah i'll let me see if i can find it here. Real quick actually. I was very surprised. About how much made. Yes so the mule for one thing. It had a fifty million dollar budget. That seems way high for that movie. But anyways and made one hundred and seventy four million a while. I was expecting it to made like twenty five million. You know at most but anyway so i. I really have a lot of respect for my always. Enjoy going back and looking at his early roles like sing dirty. Harry was awesome. And i i think there is something about him. That is truly unique. And it's you know saying. Clint eastwood it for me. At least it really rings. It just feels very iconic in a way and i agree that he has his fair share of duds and and and downers i think that he still has a lot of great highs and he is an icon in a way and whether that's kind of hollywood or society kind of building it up when it shouldn't be i don't but i see him really as a pretty icon figure of hollywood and you know and as you were saying in fifty years i think there will still be some elms that will look back on on him and really respect maybe not all of his directorial efforts or something like that will be highly regarded but i think that he will still very much being the the history of hollywood. Oh yeah i just in one way or the other. No yeah i just. I just think he'll he'll eventually become a little bit more kind of lake At some point. I think it will almost be like people who you know when they really wanna get to horror they then start to learn some horror directors Yeah now with that kind of thing you know. They're gonna eventually start getting into like westerns or something like that. And then they're going to land on on clint. Yeah and you know in terms of that. Like the westerns. Like the the good bad and the ugly that trilogy like his performance in that and his luck in that is amazing on its own he and he and sergio leoni. They captured something so special in those those movies that i remember the first time i saw them maybe back in college. I didn't really know about him. But i knew instantly that was something really special and he. Clint eastwood has that thing. That you know you make thing that he was able to to do over and over through all of those films over the years in the late twentieth century. And yeah you know i i. I like comedies. Claiming what a lot as you were saying. There's you know. He's not without his his downsides You know and and lesser works but there's a lot of great stuff there. No yeah absolutely food water d have a i guess. Like a top five Well directed or acted justin general. Well directed as i said it will be changeling with maybe flags of our fathers being a second. I love is that i think is it a for a few dollars more the second one of the fistful dollars shoot in science. So it's the second one. Yeah for a few dollars. More is my favorite of that trilogy. Some people like the good the bad and the ugly. But i actually prefer the second one. Okay i don't know if that's a hot take or not but and one. That's not necessarily a favorite. I love escape from alcatraz. Have you seen that. That's a cool one it's like it's really quiet procedural of him trying to break out of alcatraz it's it's amazing. Yeah letters from iwo jima. That's great. I like the outlaw josey wales as well. Pale rider is good dirty harry. Even though i don't think it's a five out of five. I really enjoyed that a lot. And that was worth the wait. Yeah you dirty harry for shore. These are in no particular not any sort of category. These are just favorites of mine. Either acting or directing dirty. Harry i actually am a big fan of hereafter. I know a lot of people do not enjoy hereafter. I think it's kind of a weird little quiet movie. I mean you wanna talk about like a slow movie. Yeah impossibly slow at times indefinitely not for everyone not for every mood but but i thought that was interesting. I liked it. Probably flags of our fathers and letters from iwo jima. Yeah play misty. For me is a good one. One of his early roles. I like that one a lot. You know what say what you will actually do like space cowboys. And and as i said i really enjoy it when he does his own scores for his. Mom's i really liked that a lot and i listened to them on my my own and so yeah i mean. He's he's left a lot of work behind him you know for sure and a large part of that career is with warner brothers. Yeah so it's interesting. All right anything else about clint eastwood in general. You haven't seen it yet. Go and watch them talk to an empty chair. Yeah just go and put it in. Clint eastwood empty chair. Two thousand twelve. You'll have a blast. Yeah i was. I was wondering if i was gonna try and bring that up but yeah so cool. I guess if anybody out there has. Clint would favorites or anything like that. Send us your thoughts on email or on social media We we'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter and thanks again for the question. Kip yes thank you. So and once again the film butts podcast Dot com where you can send us those. And all of that is in the show notes as well. In case you need clarification or spelling or any of that good stuff so paul do you wanna do you wanna end up with some of the week unless there's any any news you had. I don't have any. No i was just gonna let listeners know. Also that i'm now on letterbox rights. Yeah you could go and find me at p. b. dj ninety. Two over on letterbox. I've added in. I went through an ad in. You know some old favorites some stuff. That i've been watching film buds. You know not. All of that is reflective of things. That i have necessarily truly launched. Recently phnom. some of them are did recently. Rewatch dress park actually But yes you can go and you can see some of the reviews for stuff that i watch beyond what i watch for film buds. Yeah yeah and my mine is at henry ferte. I can put a pause account in the show notes as well and we got a few followers on on letterbox. From from film buds people which is cool and also jacob. Ours is also on it and kelly. Although i think he's he he used it for like a day and then kind of gave up on it. But jacob bowers who's been on the show lot has one as and nick. Nick has one to yes. Friend of the show nikki. I'll get the has one as well. Yeah so cool all right well i guess we can enough with our picks the week paul what you've been watching so i've been watching a good amount of tv lately. I recently started watching the mohawk cartoon on hulu It's a new Sort of robot. Chicken ask stop motion animated show about the character mode. Doc who is one of the villains for marvel comics and it stars patent. Oswald has several other actors who were comedians cameo. In throughout bill hader shows up in it nathan fillion shows up in the first episode is not my favorite. But i think that the show gets better progressively as you get into it I i really enjoy the characters in some of the things they do with animation there are certain parts of it that very grading and vary it feels like they. They sort of checked the box. We need weird child that is openly. Just the weirdest quirkiest child. Every core is in this child kind of thing like if you put all the belcher children into one all feels like so. That's a little bit of of a down note but for the most part. I think that it's enjoyable. I like it well enough. That i think that if you're into comics and also wanna watch a dull animated things than this is a good bit of adult animation for you to go and i think all ten episodes are already posted. So that's a good one. I started watching love. Death robots on at flakes. Have you watched any The first season okay. My wife and i've just been like skipping around watching random episodes. Yeah and it's a. It's an absolute blast forest acting court pretty much halfway or more done with it. We've really really been enjoying getting into those. I think they're so fun. I think that they're super cool. And i'm a big big fan of that. I've i've really enjoying that. I don't know if it's supposed to get a third season or not. I mean the second just came out. My guess is that they probably will but Yeah i don't know. I think my favorite one of my favorites. That i've seen is the very first one that kind of like anime. Ask what you call moral combat. Almost kind of thing. It's it's only. It's only a couple of minutes long as well like kind of ghost in the shell your that my favorite honestly i think so far has been the one about the giant that washes up on the shore. Yeah that one's one of my favorites. So far i really enjoy the one about yoder. Taking over some of their hyper more violent action ones are are superfund and super visceral in cool. But i really enjoy the the ones that kind of take their premise in really live in it in a big way my least favorite so far has probably been the junkyard one. It's about this guy who lives in in a junkyard and like the city slicker comes to to push him off and it's just okay. Yeah oh actually. My top favorite is the one with the. It's actually. it's more ghost in the shell where the girls running through the city. I have seen this one yet. It's in the first season and it's about her being chased by someone. That's all i can remember. And i think it said and like tokyo or something but it's awesome. Okay i'll have to give that one a look then And then movie wise. I recently re watched a zaken. Mary make a porno. I'll yeah classic. You know i really. I really liked that movie. There are definitely some jokes in there. That are very early. Two thousands that don't necessarily one hundred percent stand the test of time but they're not that bad in the grand scheme of things and they they pretty much for me happen almost exclusively in like the first fifteen minutes of the movie right and i think it's a really charming sweet little movie. I like kevin smith a fair bit though yet. I know that a lot of people don't see anything cute or charming. And how vulgar and weird he can be but i'm taken in with it. I think that he does interesting. Little little newbies in anzac area. I think is one of the most legitimately out like funny movies. That he has done i agree. And that's that's a lot of what i've been watching lately. i've been playing some some train simulator. Which is on a lot of fun. Yeah i like trains fun fact. I'm terrible at it. Okay oh actually one. Paul one little piece of news. I saw that the upcoming transformers film. That's going to be directed by the creed to director and starring the in the heights guy. The main guy is coming up in twenty twenty two. It has an official release date now. Yeah we'll see how that goes. Yeah so anyhow. Not a whole lot for me. I've been watching columbo episodes. It's you know it's awesome. It's one of my favorite shows. I watched as i said. I watch dirty harry for the first time which i thought was awesome and i'm looking forward to seeing the the other films i was. I wasn't expecting it to be so tame like that was going to be a little bit more crazy. But i one thing is the villain in this movie is like disturbing even now like a pretty crazy performance and character even for even now And i can't even imagine at the time. And so i really enjoyed it really the where the plot goes and how it ends up is really interesting that different ups and downs and i saw. I really enjoyed that. And i really like clint eastwood in it. I've also been watching the first season of vice principals. hbo show with danny mcbride walton goggin. And are these two vice principals at a at a high school and they really hate each other and they try and sometimes worked together a other times. Bring each other down and it's just a very absurdist comedy and it's co created i think in written by danny mcbride and so you can kind of expect you know it's very I don't know it's he didn't write it but pineapple express in a way. And you know a little bit of your highness in there something like that. Yeah well it's It's if i'm not mistaken. They it's their production company. It's danny mcbride in and david gordon. Green a really okay. I if i'm not mistaken. Because it's definitely david gordon green's production company that helped with production of that film. I know that for sure. Gotcha and so yeah. It's and it's really fun. You know my really only complaint. Is i the first season is like nine episodes. And they're about thirty minutes each and i. I'm on episode five. And i feel like it could end here like it. It feels a little extended for what's there. But there's still some really funny moments. And i really like danny mcbride. An walton goggin a lot and they're great together And so that's been fun. And then lastly. I re watched spiderman far from home last night. Which i i really enjoy in jake jilin halls amazing as i've said before and i i love the mysterious character. I love the twist with all of that. And i love the look. Yeah i it's my. It's my favorite of the spider man films in the marble in the new. I'll have to. I'll have to let you know how it stacks up. When i get to that when i've gotten a little derailed in in the marvel films i think we just did homecoming so next up is black panther for us. Oh man it's going to be a big one. That's great one and believe that is it. I haven't been watching a whole lot this week. No yeah we. We've been doing a lot of tv. We did the the rick. And morty season five premiere really solid episode. You know. I mean it's not one of their big like mind. Bending crazy episodes it was just a really really solid. Rick and morty episode was funny was interesting it did have one it did. Further morty story in like a really interesting way but it didn't overextend itself for first episode. Was really it was a home run. You know first episode back. Yeah i liked the all right paul anything else. You wanna mention about anything now. I think that's pretty much all. I got all right. Well i guess that is about it for the shrill this week Unfortunately now next week. Paul what you thinking. I mean there's You know a lot of. I mean i suggested we do the clint eastwood. Thanks of if you're feeling something in particular you know I i'm for it. There's a million possibilities if there's anything new on vod coming out really. But not that. I can tell and a one thing at some point you with having brought it up. I haven't seen a lot of rick. And morty so at some point do a rick. And morty show at some point now i begin for that for shore we could. We could do it season by season if you wanted or we can try and do like the first four seasons kind of at large at like a special episode. If you wanted to know for sure anything striking your interest or should we should we wait. Let me look just a second. Yeah earlier let me let me look it at a message. Do shortly in the next few days in well and we'll get it all passed. All right sounds good so Stay updated on on social media for that. End at the film. Buds dot com. And you can find out more about the show there and get some bonus shows all that good stuff and so yeah i will cool mean thanks as always man appreciate it. Yeah thank you. It's always a good time. It's always a good excuse to watch something interesting. And and that kind of thing. So was too dan same here. Okay everybody well we hope you enjoyed it As much as we did and we'll see next time a.

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<May 15  Hour 2  NFL Pass Interference Rule Reversal | Movie Review: Dumb & Dumber

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<May 15 Hour 2 NFL Pass Interference Rule Reversal | Movie Review: Dumb & Dumber

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Handcrafted cocktails all encompassing beer list on that list of phrases that we can't wait to get rid of is the new normal on there. Oh well I don't know if that was on my list three weeks ago but that's been that's been a big one now so bad. Why don't slow? The curve was a big one for a while of gone away because we I think we reached. We did what we did. We slowed the curve. So I'm just GONNA ask the questions because it's worth asking. I mean that was the big push was. Hey we can't. We can't release people into the wild until we slow the curve right now the curve. I mean we don't talk about that at all anymore and I watch a lot of these press conferences both statewide and nationally. And I don't see those adorable looking marks and stuff that are going way up and we want what we wanna do is see it. Go down and not up and I'm like Oh that makes sense but I don't see those anymore. Yeah now it's all about we can't I mean I'm here in the guy in la saying we can't start until we find a cure. Yeah I don't think there's probably not going to be a cure. There's cures for viruses. I don't think so it was a cure for the common cold at this point should be pretty sweet. You know Had Somebody I. I'm tweeting my backyard. You know battles that I have which still haven't at Colefax I'M NOT A. I'm not as Mr Fixit as much as I'd like to be but I'm trying now finally figured out what I did. So tweeden said now figure out a cure for corona and he said on it. Yeah next step. That's my next thing but I have to ask the question because you know I think we all were like yeah. Okay well once. We slow the curve. Slow the slow. The curve hospitals will slow down and not have this filling up left and right and we're not bringing ships in and all that stuff once we do that now. We can start to get back to work because you know hospitals down. Now it's different. It's well we gotta wait till we can. You know figure out some kind of vaccine or cure. Which could take years? I don't really know me. Yeah I would think you would take a long time. I have no no idea but I again. I love this new thing. That's the trend. Now if you make a comment about things like this like I just said someone will go. Oh I'm sorry. Where shirt doctors? Where's your where's your dot? Where did you go to become a doctor? I I didn't but I can't ask a question last. I checked this was America. I can ask a question anytime I want but I don't think that makes me come off as I know better because I certainly don't. I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions but I think it's worth asking. The rhetoric just keeps changing. We keep going through these different sayings of things Slow the curve to now find the cure. I don't think there's cure for it. I mean I unless I mean again. I'm not a I'm not a doctor but if I would imagine we would have been working on the flu cure and knob. Trust me. Easy easy everybody. I'm not not comparing the two but there is no cure for the flu. No other than just rest and soup and and a lot of water tea and honey tea and honey and just passage of time right you know and obviously it can be a lot worse for some people. I'm not comparing but I'm just saying that based on that doesn't seem like we've had success in finding a cure. The vaccine only works a portion of the time. That's the thing with like the flu vaccine is that it's it's a prediction of what flu strain. They think is GonNa hit that year and sometimes it completely misses and it's it's actually if has no effect. Yeah so so. Yeah because there's people you know that flu shot and then they get flu flu shot because it's different different different strain and so. I don't know what I'm thinking. This is just my own brain here again. Not a doctor if they come up with a virus for cove nineteen well what happens when it changes to Kovic twenty. Then you've got the whole scenery right. I don't know it's just asking questions. Yeah Yeah I think it's fair to ask questions because again. How many press conferences did we see? In the first month of this of you know we saw that chart you know with the the squiggly lines going up. This is where we could be in millions. Yes and then we got a slow that and bring it down to bring it down so from going up we need to stay home so it goes down all right so we did some of that and and then yeah so again. I just have those questions. That's my only question. Feel free to answer it. You know if you WANNA text the program three one nine nine six three one nine nine six. I'm not saying that this is not the right way to do things you know. I I have a mask. I have not been into a lot of places where I've you know. I'm just trying not to trying to avoid it to be honest with you because I'm a people pleaser Colefax I re I think so. I think you would agree on that. I like to make me so happy. Well the tough part is if I wear a mask you get one group. That's like what are you doing? And you're living in year live near wear a mask and if you don't wear a mask people like what is this. Guy Josey Wales here billy. The kid suddenly coveted here being and outlawed where it is mask. You think you're better than US get out of here so I don't know what to do so I'm just like I just don't go in the worst thing you can do. Wear the mask than having hanging down a hole through all right so you can breathe better. Been wearing my Batman mask. Okay but that doesn't cover your own just sound. I do WANNA wear masks banned from the Batman movies. I can walk around and someone gets too close to me and I'll be like keeping your distance. This could prove to be a mistake for you. I think I'll check out like I would like to do that. Like make everything seem like it's life or death. Somebody's comes up to me. They get too close. Please step away so thank you. Wow MASK IDEA. Might be a terrible idea for for some people for some immature. Just can't handle any of life's situations going on at this point Well County Pretty Sure Josie. Well and billy the kid warm ask. They did when they went into rob stuff. So that's true when this whole thing started. You see people walking around with masks. And you're like WHOA. Whoa easy man says now people in masks and you just kind of like new. I didn't say oh you gotta be careful set it. Unprecedented President did new normal more testing more testing. I won't get slow the curve when grandma gears how we're all in this together. You know that one I love I mean in the same boat like yeah but you. You're in a year and a Yod Colfax and I are like in the old cartoons bathtub. That left the house. We're rowing in this old bathtub right here so I mean no. We're not in the. We're not all in the same boat. Maybe the same lake. Yeah say motion say motion but we're all swimming through it different ways. Some people don't even have a boat right now. They're just like got the doggy pedal going there. And Yeah so cracks me up man. It really does because it's just so bizarre and and nobody in listen. I don't handle everything everything the the right way. My wife just says. Hey you think you you make everything into a joke. And I'm sorry I'm a happy. Go Lucky Guy. Kinda look on the bright side of life now to try to anyway. So yeah. That's that's my again. I don't have a take on it. I don't have. This is what you should be doing. This is what I just have questions you know I do. I have questions and I think that's okay to ask questions and to be able to to wonder you know. Hey why did it change so much? That was the Hashtag. Slow the slow the curve and now it's Hashtag find the cure and Hashtag safe home but not if a burger burglar comes to your household facts. You're not very safe there. Whenever I events text line three one nine nine six three one nine nine six Colfax. I don't want to say I told you so we're told the NFL so but you remember when they said we're GONNA start reviewing pass interference. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA make sure we don't miss one of these. Only thirteen of like seventy five. Were actually overturned. Thirteen of eighty one were overturned last year. So the NFL's try. We're not gonNA do that terrible. It's a terrible idea. It wasn't you said that from the beginning recall. I think review is awful. I just opens us up for way too many discussions. I the poor. Why why in the hell would you want to be an official for any sport anymore? Because you're wrong about everything fifty percent of the crowds. Well whatever watching TV. No crowds are going to disagree with you. That's just the way it's going to go and I said this from the get-go you know having instant replay and reviewing all these calls is slowing the game down. They're still not even getting it right. You know. They're they're still going to have and that one was too close to call it. Rudolf pushing off. The guy offensively did that in Minnesota and the saints like the debt that that really did that affect that I thought it was Kinda close to an offensive pass interference but again it's not we're still not solving the mystery. Here Sean. Payton head coach of the saints who has been affected by pass interference or lack there of for for like the last three years. Now Poor Guy. He wanted this to happen. He was big for. He's like yes. We need to be able to review. But he's still got screwed on it even when they reviewed it. They're like no he's like so he now he's saying. Hey we just aren't prepared for it. We can't we don't have. It's not even a technology thing because how many times were you go? Who that's what. I would agreed if he wouldn't have called it or if he did call. That could have gone either way. That's the problem. Just let human error happened. This is why I think having UMP's in the game now do I think UMP's in baseball need to slow their role. And not be so damn cocky and act like they ruled world. Yes but I don't know that I want robots calling everything you know. I don't know that I want that strike zone thing that's GonNa just. I don't know I kind of like the human element of game I like that. Oh everybody knows. This has a wider strike zone than that. I like that. That's cool like it's just kind of a known thing we have to change our strategy around. Everybody knows that this. Nba official calls calls things a lot. Tighter than this other official like. I think that's part of the game and so- reviews and sooner or later we're GONNA have robots making calls out there. I I just I hate the direction. We continue to go with this. It's it's Nonsense to me. Well let's take it to the end of this logical path. At some point what does have robots playing the game and robots officiating. The game there will never be any if we want at perfect. And that's what we want. We want -ficiating perfect. We want play calls perfect. We want everything to just be absolutely perfect. And you take away human elements and love it or hate it. The officials are a part of these games. You know there we ha- we like to make fun of them to yes we do. You know the blind raff all that stuff but at the end of the day there are part of these games and I think when you look at the tried to make it so you can review pass interference. I mean there was a point. There was a time where I could. You could almost say there's some form of interference on almost every single play there's folding Ab was John Madden said holding happens on every play. It's just a matter of if the REF which ref is focusing on which lineman there's some form of holding happening all the time they only call so much of it and I think that that's again that's why you look at the situations and they're gonNA miss calls they're gonNA get calls they're gonNA absolutely get called wrong and I think that's okay and pass interference though to me was just. That was sending us down a bad path. I said Oh boy. That's going next thing you know we're going to be doing holding calls now or or you're going to actually challenge you know that was pass interference in new. You'RE GONNA keep going down this rabbit hole where we can challenge everything and I have. I'll be honest because I know I'm losing this fight. They're going to do instant replay. So I've kind of been of the mindset. Then just let them have the to challenge flags like all and you challenge everything. And that's the problem with it because now you're say we'll just pass interference. Well then why can't you challenge this and this and this? That's ridiculous to me but if I had to vote all or nothing. Nothing but it shouldn't be in between DAMN SHOULDN'T BE IN BETWEEN. That's like the worst part about it. So you can review this but you know all those conceit. None understand stand. That one's not reviewable. Why not be because it's nonsense you can't you can't review a call like that that's nonsense. Yeah but why can you? Why can't you can review a guy with pass interference? They threw a flag. And you can review that. Why can't I review the fact that you called holding on Garrett Bowles because everybody just knows hugh can okay football fan? You don't clearly know the rules of the NFL. So I agree. You should go all or nothing. My hundred percent into nothing. I lose that battle therefore I changed the argument and say go all of it. Then want that to happen. But they're they're going to continue to do they'll come back to this the NFL will come back to this at some point. They're going to try to perfect it and see how they can change it. But it's kind of drives me nuts one of those things Colefax. Let's let's ask the whole against dumb. And dumber. Is it our getting a couple of tweets? Here on this a lot of tweets. Actually that might surprise a few of you out there because again. It's one of the biggest one of the biggest comedies. Whether you like it or not I mean. It was like one of the most known comedies. Ever so let's get to that when we come back this is the whole show powered by PDC energy. We're going to get to our official review of dumb and dumber nine hundred ninety four if you can believe that. We'll be right back Missing Sports Sunkei F K. Enjoy some instant classics with KF K classics every Thursday and Friday night on thirteen ten KFI and thirteen ten. Kfi Am Dot Com the UNC bears talking game coverage lives on thirteen. Ten K OF K. Hey Nuggets coach Bone Denver Nuggets. And you're listening to the whole show thirteen ten S K to Brady. I want to ask you a question straight out flat out. I WanNa give an honest answer. What do you think the chances are of guy like you and a girl like me ending up together? Well Lloyd. That's difficult to say. We really don't hit me with them. Just give it to me. Straight came a long way just to see you married. Just least you can do is level with me where my chances not good not. Good like one out of one hundred. I'd say more like one out of a million so you're telling me there's a chance so many so many quotes from that movie. I mean got be one up there as far as the most quoted movie of all time I'd say so and if he asked me kind of it before making a quotable movie was like I think Suckler I it. It didn't set out to be a quotable movie. It just had all these quotas parts. That kind of came naturally this true. There's not a lot of movies now. It's just a natural thing like almost everything they say in this movie is you. Could you could argue. It's one of the best quotes from Anchorman. Had some good ones. I think to this day I still really enjoy that. And but then suddenly there came a Lotta different movies and just I don't know maybe it's an old the old guy in me talking a little bit but this was made in one thousand nine hundred four the Farrelly brothers. I mean they put together some really good comedies totally Jim Carey Jeff. Daniels I think Lauren Holly was was Mary and what was her her her. I don't know what her last name was awesome. Yeah and his spots. Sampson is the I. S Nineteen eighty-four right. I was eight years old three watch. I probably watched it fairly soon when it came out. I probably watched it late. Probably yeah probably so for the first time man. This is this. Is Jim Carrey to me like Jim? Carey's been some interesting ones. You know where he's really you know he's really good but he's almost too over the top. He's Ventura I liked it growing up. Now it's like how he's he's over the top man especially the second one extra to was nuts at. Yeah when nature calls. That's that's the second one gets dart shot in his leg and he can't. I love those movies. Grown up they all. Yeah absolutely. I mean everybody wanted to be a future like every kid ran around. Try to pretend they were. Do not go in there was a good. Rei Colefax so Hogan's helped me out on this when we can get your thoughts to. I'm checking now. I tweeted this a little bit ago and I'm kind of curious you're saying we got somebody already saying this. Practice squad material undrafted. There are dozens like this for the taking I I again. I'm not given the official review yet but I don't know that there's a lot of movies like dumb and dumber. I mean oh one of the best lines of all tight reminds me of a quarantine situation with no jobs thing. I mean this is one of to me. One of my favorite lines. I love this The pets you know the jobs gets worse Lloyd. Parakeet Petey is dead Oh man sorry here. What happened is had fell off. He was pretty old. That's it. I've got no food. Got Jobs are pets like that. Scene is the best he just. He's pretty old tapes back together themselves like that. Sold my pet parakeet to a blind canes carrot care of it. Oh my gosh. I love that. So many great scenes in this one we set up the story if somebody had tweeted moments ago said easily a first rounder but they also said it's one of the best written comedies of all time. I don't know if I go with like best written. You know I'm not. I don't know the storylines. Whatever means there to just keep the. Yeah you got to just have three stooges right. You just have knock knock knock the whole time to actually have a story. Lloyd Jim Carrey's character. We all know right He. He's a limo driver sees. This girl falls in love kind of instantly then decides he wants Dave. They get their broke. You know they lose their jobs. They're behind on rents the heck with it. Let's let's go find your long lost love in Aspen. Aspen and I don't know what else you got. Colfax play whatever last one year expected the rocky mountains. Feel a little rockier. I was thinking the same thing at John. Denver's fully man crews trying unlike on their way to Aspen trade. The man in for the little little bike to it's terrible. That's the worst thing you could drive going into Aspen. Just go man just go just go. That's so good Kenny. Some of the best brainless comedy ever. Probably yeah I mean I feel like. That's almost discredited in a bit. But it's like yeah. It's not a great story. It's not deep thinking comedy. It's just it's carried his finest doing very much. Jim Carey Things Jeff Daniels. What was interesting about Jeff? Daniels is more of a serious actor. He didn't do a lot of funny stuff did he. Before this and certainly I don't think after and put him this mix and they just clicked. They try to make the sequel. They made a prelude prelude to this too. That was awful. They tried to make a sequel first off the prelude no Jim Carey and Jeff. Daniels are Harry and Lloyd. There's there's it ends there so if anybody comes to. Hey I gotta I gotTa wild idea for a movie. We're GONNA DO THE BEFORE. But when they met each other more we're bringing in two new actors. No no no never going gonNA happen. Well then they tried to make the second one with the same actors and it was still but it was like twenty years later right. Yeah fairly recently. Yeah I mean you. Can't you can't do that no you. Just huge. That was yeah probably more than twenty two. Wow Yeah you're you're talking twenty twenty-five years sequel that no it doesn't Star Wars. We're talking to one of those epic sequel for Anchorman. And you can't I just can't do. It just doesn't work as much as you might think. Oh I'm excited. You know it's going to be crap. There's no way to follow it up part of it's because you never you've never seen quite like it. So I mean there's some good comedies out there. Colfax you review comedies and say put them into categories like the departed and the womb. We're talking about first. Round draft picks but overall the storyline. Whatever makes it moves it. Keeps it going right But it's really again? It's just these guys that have no clue no clue what's going on the Dick van covered as a dog looked like a dog. I mean that Shag Shack and wag love every piece of this is just so. I don't even know how to say. And they did everything that they did in. This movie was so nonchalant like it was just like matter of fact And that's what made it so funny is that it wasn't trying to go over the top with like this is funny laugh here. It's like no this whole thing is just like the the Mafia guy the hitman eating the burger. They put those tamales on his Burger. Yeah and then. They're giving him is pills. It's pills pills or good. Eat your pills. And they think they're helping him you know and it's rat poison that he was going to use to kill to kill them because he thought that they were hitman. And that's the best part of the movie. Is they keep thinking like what these guys are. Good he's the COP. Detective like keeps trying to his. Co. these guys messing around these guys are lethal and then they wrote. Hey Dear Gasman. Sorry we can't pay your bill or how the hell is I have gas. These guys are good. They must've been following us for weeks. That's the best part about it to me Underlying theme is like the whole time. Everybody thinks that they. Are these really smart guys. Just not no and I'm married. It's funny because Mary takes to Harry rather than Lloyd and you know. Lloyd's jealous but it's really because Harry might have some information. She's supposed to try to get close to these guys and figure out what's going on. That's our hairy anyway and for me so in the past few movies reviewed. There's been just kind of like tombstone and then the there's love story that's just in my opinion didn't fit the movie and they didn't do a good job building up the love story. Yes in this movie. It's all about the love story. I think it's actually better done in dumb and dumber than it was in both of those movies. It's not cliche at all. It's not she doesn't and you can see his. You know obviously falls in love at first sight and it's just him trying to chase that down right to no end but I find that even more charming than yeah. I tend to agree. The departed again. It was kind of just a part of the movie. Who's just a little part really? And they didn't really go into it too much. Tombstone it was. I was annoyed every time. The love that love story entered came on scene like that was the scene of both Kurt Russell with both both of his love. Interest didn't like it. This was just yeah. I mean it wasn't going to be a cliche happy ending. Necessarily I love the I. Oh us they fill the case back. Oh No okay these better host goodness money sir. But thirty five hundred. You Might WanNa hang onto that one Lamborghini here here you go. It's Great Arthur Colefax. Drafting this movie. Yeah where are you drafting? I'm going first round. I have to. There's no other way it could go anywhere else for me. It's I'll watch it any time. It's on you always say that stipulation. Yes I'll pick it up at any point in the movie. I don't care maybe because I've seen it so many times that it doesn't matter you know what's going on. Yeah and we're laughing here playing these clips back. The clips are hilarious. The clips are hilarious when we played three clips and it's two hours of dumb clips. Yeah there's not a bad. There's not really a moment in the movie where you go. I hate this part. No Yeah I'm with you. I think it's first rounder. I shocked some of these. I mean William you must be like one of those movies snaps right like I don't know no toyland movies little like the toilet here. First Rounder for sure it has to be so let's And that's their review. Is that our first collective first rounder. Well Yeah because we don't Count Titan can't watch watched first Saturday's so we didn't know what we were getting into. We were just. We were in over our heads. We were so young. That's Hilarious Guy. Kind of Kooky Dude messes with tigers. Man That's weird. Throw him a first round exits. Episodes like what? I didn't know what we were getting into this surfers. One though a real one thing it might be it might be so dumb and dumber becomes the first ever in the the whole show movie review vault that gets a a an agreed whole show approval rating so according to us. It's the best movie everything we do and that was recommended. Isn't that makes sense. Irishman the departed tombstone white. Men CAN'T JUMP. Molly's game all very why can't I don't know if it's like the smartest movie in the world but all pretty fairly serious movies and things like that? But here we go with a review of dumb and dumber. And that's the one that says more about US than actual movies. But Hey it's it's just you're right. There's a few things that you have to have like departed. I have a hard time. If that's on. I have a hard time watching it all over again again the endings tough and it's great but it's tough knowing what's going to happen to have seen that a lot. That's probably one that I but pretty good. I think I gave it a first rounder. Pretty close to say. Now that's going to be on all the time if it's on I'm Gonna. Watch IT IRISHMAN. Definitely not in that mindset. Like if it's just on Oh do I have the energy for this but but dumb and dumber yet easy man. I mean here. We are talking about video. Games stressing US out right. Well this turn this on and relax at any point. Yeah I'm with you. It is hundred percent in my mind. A first round draft pick. Yep So there we go Colefax while I one so we highly recommend it. If there's a whole again they're Hogan out there. That hasn't seen this movie. I'd be interested to find out. I don't know if you want to admit that all right we'll take a quick break. Let's get the latest on the local sports flash thirteen ten. Kfi PREPS RADIO IS NORTHERN. Colorado's home for the best high school coverage Monday on mornings with AOL. Suzanne Dowd North Range Behavioral Health on taking care of mind and soul in time of Kovic nineteen. Join US sixty nine thirteen ten. Kfi KFI Happy Life Gardens is here for you and offering curbside pickup every day from eight to six o'clock call them at nine seven zero three. Oh nine five three zero. Now's the time to plan. What better way to make? Sure to get some some vitamin D than to get out and plant work in the backyard. I events text line. Three one nine nine six three one nine nine six kind of rounding out the show. Coal Facts Soi. Are you a are you committing to this or you committing to Nascar over the weekend can get a chair? Colfax and I are both. I'm not big fans. I'M I've had a couple of listeners that I've chatted with recently said. Hey love the show dude layoff NASCAR though. Why are you make fun of it so much? We make fun of things. We don't understand it's just a natural thing. Cova bullies. Do Yeah. Yeah it's what we do. Not every sport can be wonderful. Get that there needs to be sports. That are like that's Uncle Don likes. Leave HIM HIS NASCAR. Not every sport can be perfect so we have NASCAR and I'm to give it a shot on Sunday. All right take all change things Monday. I turn around and I'm like well okay. I'm in now. I don't think so. Not Big car guy. We don't HATE NASCAR hate. I don't hate a sport I there's sport I might say. Oh you like that okay. I don't know what to expect. I guess it's been all in the background of places I've been before that is to the extent. I had a neighbor that I really loved. His name was bobby. Great Guy was living in Greeley few years several years ago. Die Hard Nascar guy but he was. He was such a cool that he was a little bit unlike me because he was like you like football. I'm not a big Fan. But Yeah we'll crack open some beers and watch the Broncos may not get into it with you you just gotTa you gotTa Watch Nascar. So there were times I'd go in and he'd be watching and I'd be drinking a beer and I'm like yes. This is what they do the whole time. It's just this nonstop. Cheer like when a guy passes a guy you yeah oh and then he gets passed to go back to where he was like. How do you watch? Do you cheer throughout the race. Because they're going to be passing in getting past and passing and getting past like I think it's more like you wash intently intensely and you don't really show emotion until the end of the race school because you never know what's going to happen until the it just three hours of just like that last lap. Yeah then you can start to get a little excited. Maybe because you can start to see how things are going to play out. See where everyone's at. There's a lot of laps though. Like what's this one is this. What is this called is a three hundred? Is it five hundred? Something like that elapsed dude. Yeah like a horse race. It's like okay here. We go this is going to be over in twenty seconds so but they still televised three hours. Well there's a bunch of mini rate or other races with different horses and stuff and then you're having your mint juleps and your hats and a lot of things I don't understand. Yeah saying see biscuits the greatest athlete of all time. It's a horse. Of course lets a guerrilla is the strongest thing. They're animals they. They have more ability than us when it comes to that kind of a Cheetah for that matter is the damn good athlete. Sorry just kind of go off on that a little bit commands car should be the greatest athlete. It's faster than a horse and can go for hundreds of miles for that. Put an ass car in their athlete of all time frame lightning McQueen. I KNEW ACQUAINTANCE. Damn good athlete. He was actually his own car. So we actually had some. He is more like an athlete. In that way let's tr that's the thing that asked me this. The other day think about this Colfax does lightning McQueen. If he has a few at the bar does he get a Dui not operating a vehicle he is he's operating himself. So do you get a Dui if you go walk down the street technically I think you can. We GET PUBLIC INTOXICATION. But you can't get a Dui he'd get that you get that getting public intoxication. 'cause he's not operating a vehicle now if he's operating at St Pave thing that he's doing yeah give them a Dui for that. That's dangerous man. Yeah lives at stake Pao. You're you're fixing a road drunk idiot. No but just driving around. Yeah just don't be drunken idiot and public man radiator springs. This is a nice place forty nine minutes after the hour. That's how we that's how we finish up a show today. All right we'll be right back our power to play sport poll question of the day. What's your favorite video game of all time? Maybe it's an asker but that would that would be in other. It made the other ranks bareback. We're here with you keep it on. Kfi Am for the latest on Kobe. Nineteen the effect on the sports scene in more thirteen ten. Kfi Am and thirteen ten K. K. DOT COM CATCH. Her taste study right with up-to-date news weather and sports mornings with Gail six. Am to nine. Am Weekdays on Thirteen Ten KFI K? I this Jesse Kirk executive producer and lead anchor the mountain West Network. And you're listening to the whole show on thirteen ten. Kfi Ta a new journey for us. Then COLEFAX NASCAR coming up for us on Sunday again. It's it's just one of those one of those sports. I've never really understood. But I'm I'm I'm kind of excited. I've had some texter saying hey. I'm ready to try this out. You got me excited for. I don't know how I did. I've I've probably put it down more often than not and again. I have a lot of respect for driver. You know. I've always said man I couldn't do what they do. That's amazing but I don't. Sometimes they say who's the greatest athlete and we're throwing NASCAR drivers in there. I don't get that driving your great driver and your it is an skill and we're going to see that scale put to the test coming up on Sunday. Did you ever figure out who you rooting for? I really haven't prop mainly because I can't figure out who the hell's all in the race was that Bubba guy going with the BUBBA guy. Let's go with him. Who is that? Who you're going rettig going with. Chronicles of riddick. I one but I switched over to a and Bob Chronicles of Riddick. I'm kind of going for him too. So yeah excited. We'll see what happens. That's going to do it for us. Good I in Colorado ten KFI K.

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Kicked in the Dumplings

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Kicked in the Dumplings

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An hour over some freeways chase continued into this residential area. Lost control as you saw there flipping over smashing utility pole snapping that in half around two thousand people in the area were left without power as a result. Police say five people were inside that car huge police presence trying to get them out and keep everybody alive their former taken to the hospital when what was the crime that they had committed in the car. The people they were chasing down. I don't know do we know that hansen what were what were. They chased him for what they done. Because that's a. That's a tough one to conundrum the whole high speed chase hundred miles an hour driving like a lunatic through a residential area boy unless you're a mass murderer on the loose or like a gun in your hand and you've sworn an oath to kill someone today. Is it better to chase them at one hundred miles an hour through a residential area or let them go on the other hand if you let bad people know that if you're from the police the lego yep that doesn't work either it's tough one no doubt so coming up and i'm not joking has biden done something impeachable. What serious people are asking seriously. Stay with us. I hate to do this on a friday. It makes your eyes glaze over my my senses. People aren't interested in this but it's so important in such a big deal. There are no fiscal conservatives. Left in america neither party represents that ideology we are going to destroy ourselves as a nation in the same way you can destroy yourself as a human or a family. Wow debbie downer by by dubai spending too much. We'll destroy yourself financially. The gop's bad infrastructure deal. This is from kimberley strassel in the wall street journal. I linked to it. Because britt hume who i really like on fox said this is depressing and linked to this article in the wall street journal. It isn't just the biden administration that is keen to redefine the term for structure. A growing number of republican. Senators are getting in on the act and more fool the party. I'll get in some of the details here but the the long ensured of it is Enough republican senators realize. Look this thing is likely to pass water. Money's gonna get thrown around some of it is going to get thrown our way in the state i live in. There's nobody out there. That really cares about the debt. So they're seeing the strategy calling everything infrastructure. Working a bipartisan group of ten senators last week finally released the two thousand seven hundred and two pages of their infrastructure. Bill explaining that they'd worked day and night to finalize the legislation. They touted their work product as historic investment in hard infrastructure that will create good paying jobs. All those things are in quote quotes from kimberley strassel as well. The gop members of the group might infrastructure. Sounds a lot better than spend a thon central planning corporate bailouts cylindrical and green new deal all of which are the real descriptions of this behemoth polls show a majority of americans support the idea of infrastructure spending so the bill takes care to lead with etiam items that most people associate with that term highways bridges tunnels ports waterways. Yeah according to a breakout from the nonpartisan Responsible federal budget committee those provisions the hard infrastructure that we think about bridges roads et cetera. Accounts for about twenty three percent of the bills. Five hundred and forty eight million dollars in new spending. You know what's funny. It's almost a quarter. I was relieved that it was that high. That's how beaten down. We are twenty three percent of it is the stuff that you call. Infrastructure and republicans agreed to this sure of the bills. Five hundred forty eight billion dollars in new spending public transit gets thirty nine billion and amtrak get sixty six billion that adds up to one hundred billion even though i very scant fraction of americans regularly right either one of them. Then there's the twenty one billion dollars earmarked for environmental remediation. Whatever that is or the fifty billion dollars under the catch all category of climate resilience in western water storage. Okay yes could wait a minute but water store be good but it depends on how it gets spent and there's there are no details in this. This is the classic thing that tim santa for. Always talks about giving a whole bunch of money. You know under the good things. Bill and department of climate and climate resilience and giving it to a bunch of bureaucrats under the idea. Now you go do good things and they get to do whatever they want at point with the money. Such rules and regulations as established by the department of what was it. Climate resilience re yeah climate resilience in western water. Storage hard to keep a nonsense phrase in your head because you know it's nonsense. The bill is better. Viewed as step one of president biden's green new deal giving his appointees and federal bureaucrats tens of billions of dollars with which to remake the economy. Jump down here a little bit. the talk about the amount of money that there is for so many different things that you wouldn't call infrastructure The bill similarly gives the feds unprecedented in centralized control over chance of the economy. Washington will now dictate rules in areas that have traditionally been managed by local authorities such as drinking water even as it muscles in on private sector enterprises like broadband. The bill turns transportation secretary pete. Buddha judge into an electric vehicles czar with authority to pinpoint pinpoint new charging stations. Down to the mile marker as we were talking about earlier nobody had listeners. Point out via email on the free market did a great job deciding where there ought to be gas stations for our entire history. Yeah that's the argument. Everybody's been making nobody. There is zero centralized planning even at the state level. Let on the federal level for where you ought to have gas stations and now the federal government's going to be a chart your drinking water. Can you imagine if you have a problem of petitioning washington. Dc to do something about it. Gas stations popped up wherever it would be profitable to have a gas station because there was a desire for them. I guarantee you. There are going to be electric charging stations in the middle of states. I've lived in like my home state of kansas. That never get used that cost gazillions of dollars to put a round these states. The never touched. They'll just sit there gathering dust for years and years and years and eventually somebody'll laugh about it demaj edge of civilization edge edge. They say i'll wrap this up on a second because it's not a fun friday topic. Let's not forget. Corporate america the washington post reports. The bill has unleashed a lobbying. Bonanza with more than two thousand companies and groups engaging washington officials on infrastructure. This year alone. I was just reading that article. The hogs are heading the dc as fast as they can to stick their snouts in the trough. It's almost hilarious. Yeah and it's because of what we were just talking about. You've got billions of dollars that are being thrown at departments and they haven't written all what they're going to spend it on specifically you wanna get there in there and quick and say hey how about some of it for this yeah. Why don't we say that x ryan's z. Is a infrastructure. Tell you what we can deliver the votes and the contributions for the next three election cycles. Come on so. Do you remember the cylinder scandal. It was that was solar panel. That was solar panels right and it was gazillions of dollars thrown at solar panels. That turned out. Just just didn't work didn't work at all. Just it's the sinkhole of money company went broke in the blink of an eye. There will be so many of those in this that you never hear about because the the numbers are so large. You won't even hear about most of the failures. Right if you if i'm connected and i get fifty million dollars. Say for my company. That's going to turn a clam shells into nuclear power just whatever's well and then turns out clam. Shell still do a damn good a bit bit a good. They never could and they never will. But i got the grant i used it all. Look it our corporate papers. They say that. I'm not personally liable for the failure of the company. Oh and lookie here. I also paid myself five million dollars years the ceo. By the way. Kimberly shaw points out. In the wall street journal so while the authors claim the bill is paid for in fact it rests on gimmicks like the claim that by delaying a medicare rule that will cost money. Congress's saving those dollars. These are the kinds of tricks. Republicans normally excoriate democrats over most gop members want wanted most new spending covered by unused cova funds but the white house snarled and negotiators rolled over. So she's blaming the republicans that went along with this for Participating in democrat style tricks hiding the spending on the. If you're not familiar with this. We've gone over it in some detail with craig healthcare guru what congress says is are we need Three hundred million dollars for this program. Here's what we're gonna do. Starting next year medicaid will only pay doctors three cents for open heart surgeries. Yes yes that's it that will save us over thirty thousand dollars per surgery times. The millions of medicare patient. That's how it will pay for it. But then of course next year comes no frigate doctor is to do a heart surgery for three cents and so they postponed the rule over and over again because they never ever intended to do it. So the republican party is now the democrat democratic party of my youth and the democrats are the bernie sanders party. Yeah yeah i'd say even of twelve years ago. Yeah you're right. Yeah even fifteen twenty years ago so. The republican party is the democrats. The democrat party of bill clinton and the democrats are burnt the bernie sanders party. And that's where we good bernard sanders bernie one bernie. Sanders won the election for art sanders. I read that article the other day. And i and i'd said it before i think it's absolutely true bernie sanders freaking one. Just want now. He he cares more about ideas than actually having the opposite ideas one. Well he might become the president jack before you know it and it has to do with the fact that joe biden is committed an impeachable offense according to some. You scoff sir. Do you always golfing me. I tease this this earlier. I can fill you in now. The other thing off maybe after the break forbes puts out a list of billionaires it seems like twice a day. Yeah yeah because it's it gets them more attention than the other stuff that they usually do Riyana is the most is the wealthiest female singer in the world. I believe it's pronounced rhianna. Riana she's now estimated at one point seven billion dollars. Wonder i would love to know what her revenue streams are. Because i know a lot of savvy entertainers can't make money selling records anymore or cd's or what have you. And there hasn't been much touring i'm guessing. She has like a perfume and fashion. And i can tell you that right now. Excellent with her stake in her cosmetics company because she is a very ago very beautiful human being she is. it's symmetrical as human any human being on earth and he smears much of her stuff on you as you want. You're gonna look like no. You're not gonna look like her and She's a young woman to where did very. She's an early thirties. Yes she's thirty three years old with her stay in cosmetics company valued at one point four billion so the singer of or one point seven billion dollars one point four billion dollars in her cosmetics company and another three hundred millionaire lingerie company. I don't know if anybody has anything to do with. No she's just a name. She's an influence mayer. It says at the end money from her music career also adds to our portfolio. So yeah she's she's really attractive and she'd be you'd people became aware of her through singing and then she started selling lingerie and Makeup yeah and she didn't jagger has got to be looking back at his career thinking. Why didn't i pitch chapstick like come up with a a shampoo for men great hair so yeah hair care products that does you know that sort of thing. One point seven billion dollars mean. She's well into being a billionaire as a thirty-three-year-old hot chick. Yeah yeah rod times. Yeah well we'll soon have a new president or to joe biden will be impeached. Kamla will fail miserably. Re resigning humiliation. And her appointed vice-president bernie sanders will become the president. How it happens. I will unveil next the armstrong and getty show have a story about a cotton almost died not from taking french. No but just from having touched it scary. Yeah that drug is just. it's evil. It's chinese evil. Chinese government turned into blind eye defense no production and shipping to the us. Because it's killing the great. Well they don't call us. The great satan the capitalist running dogs. Oh you know who calls great satan iran and they swore in their new president. Yesterday that is one scary dude. That's now the president iran. And that's not getting enough tension. We do international news anymore as a as a country. We only focus on other crap but yeah. He's a torture and a brute autumn butcher. Oh yeah yeah unbelievable. So hey this is from Is it real clear politics. Or is it politico. Realclearpolitics biden's eviction comments have created a constitutional pickle. You know the ban on fictions because the coveted that the supreme court said had to end the last day of july quite specifically without a specific act of congress to extend it it must end well. gang rapist. judge camel wrote the The opinion on that good lord sir code low never forget forget now did anything of the sort. Well my my never forget is never forget what. They called him right. The the incredible immoral railroad job. Yeah anyway so. In spite of what. The supreme court said the president in the cdc extended the ban in hotspots kovin hot spots. And this is a days after president biden himself announced that the bulk of scholars say it's not likely to pass constitutional muster so realclearpolitics asks. Was it the view of the white house. This surprising step was unconstitutional but necessary. I didn't say that said jen. Pisarski at wednesday's briefing biden wouldn't have moved forward. She said if he was not comfortable with the legal justification. Well did you hear what biden did how he how he got there. He told his people. Call laurence tribe. So he's the harvard law professor. That's just always way out there on that on the very edge of constitutional to the left so he knew the lawyer to call so he can at least claim there's one constitutional lawyer that says this would be okay. Unbelievable realclearpolitics raise the question again. Thursday with the president himself and while he said he believes the new ban is in line with the law of the land he could not answer for the supreme court said at the very least the band was necessary to buy render some time quote. I can't guarantee you the court won't rule that we don't have that authority but at least we'll have the ability to if we have to appeal to keep this going for a month. At least i hope longer in other words he said yeah. They said it's unconstitutional. We can't do it but we're gonna do it until they tell us to stop because because we wanna which some people believe is a specific admitted violation of his oath to defend the constitution. Imagine the coverage on this if trump had said the same thing done the same thing around some sort of immigration ruling. Right right exactly. That's a great example. Well and then oddly enough. Joe biden grabbed joe. Getty him book and started singing about the fact that there's forty five billion dollars in pandemic relief that's meant to help ease help leasers landlords. That's just sitting somewhere. Nobody's sure where nobody knows how to hand out. Nobody's getting it everybody's panicking and so we're just an extended in spite of the constitution. Lovely impeach him impeach him now right now other impeachment yourself armstrong and getty switching to gyco is a good idea especially when you consider everything first off geico makes it easy to switch. 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Chills lively choose wendy's to for four moments in light of the regular price. Price and participation vary unless wendy's the armstrong and getty show. This is why we do segment sometimes a meal. We're gonna make you eat your vegetables hearing some news. Then we'll give you dessert. Dessert is going to be clipped from a new movies. I don't know if the movies out yet or not or comes out in a couple of weeks actually knew clint eastwood movie in which he stars in the movie directs and produces it. He's ninety one years old boy. That's amazing it's called bronco billy to the awakening. What then folks don't believe it is any man even if it's a bad movie. That's just still astonishing that a ninety one year old has that level of energy and then brainpower ono. The reviews are good. In fact. The review said if you can watch this trailer without crying Will play the trailer for you coming up. Because who doesn't wanna cry on a friday sure Couple of news headlines for you. The first provincial capital and afghanistan has fallen to the taliban. that'd be the capital of one of the provinces of which they have many. But this i guarantee is the first of many that will fall. I'm just concerned. The country may fall into a civil war. A quote i keep hearing. It's a civil war like turned into a guy named tedium and saying i'm concerned our country is gonna fall into a civil war talking about. That's an excellent point. Thank you Sheep's head fish with human teeth have been caught. north carolina. schiff got like three species in one. They're already got a head like a damn sheep. Now it's got teeth legged name human. You can't say sheep's head. Fish have teeth like humans. President biden is giving a speech right now and he says ninety percent of the jobs that will be created in the bigger infrastructure. Plan will not require a college degree shovel. Ready fool me twice. Shame on me comedian. Kathy griffin who. I used to consider one of the funniest people on the planet because back in the day man. Her stand up was whole larry's then she turned all weird and political and everything like that and got her face operated on so many times. You can't even tell she's not she said fisher self with she's in the A battle against the lung cancer and Told fans a tweet today that she nearly lost her life last year to suicide. So wow. that's a tough. Ron going through some rough times there. So is this police officer. This is troubling story. He didn't take any fennel all he did was touched. The fennel accidental fennel exposure for deputy david pronounce his name favor by going to go with faye by deputy david. It was an overdose and he was dying in his partner caught onto what was happening very quickly. Ran to the patrol car and got that narcan nasal spray that they use to turn around a An overdose yeah. Wow well done. Officers squirted into his partners knows in saved him light but he was dying and all he had done was test. The feno with rubber gloves on He says i remember not feeling right. he wore over. He wore rubber gloves to test. The drug is they're instructed to do because the stuff is so dangerous but that wasn't enough he said i remember not feeling right then i fell back. He landed on his back and then he was going into the death. Throes and his partner realized it because they've seen it enough times. I don't remember anything after that. He recalls gasping for breath. His lungs locked up and His partner figured out and saved him but the the the drugs could kill you. Speech that parents have been given Kids forever more true now than it has ever been because whatever recreational drug you get into. If it's gotten limit you will die possibly die quickly. Oh yeah oh my god. It's impossible to get the dose right over an extended period. It's so powerful so i. I'm sure you've heard this. But i can't remember how cain work medically speaking. What does it do. I mean that's miraculous you take a drug that can kill a thousand people with you know a single test tube of it actually test tube of it could probably kill ten million people but anyway and you take this this narc. It's like do over. How does that work medically. I don't know i dig into that. Maybe i'll do that during the commercial raising. Yeah and then. This china has stolen enough damage to compile dossier on every american matthew pottenger former deputy national security adviser warned senate intelligence committee. This week that china was looking to use. The data had stolen from united states and worldwide do influence and incur. Course everyone from political leaders to private citizens the party now compiles dossiers dossiers on millions of foreign citizens around the world using the material that it gathers to influence target intimidate reward blackmail flatter humiliate and ultimately divide and conquer. They've stolen enough. Since can i sign up for the bribery and flattery. Please i mean if you all of those tools. Can i can i for that as opposed to the humiliation blackmail. I don't want the intimidate or humiliate. I would like the flatter yes please can. I have the flatter platter. Please beijing stolen enough sensitive data to build dossier on every single american adult and on many of our children too. Who are all fair. Game under beijing's rules of political warfare. Wealth warfare he said. Yeah so the ideas that they've got stuff on on every american so whatever you were doing in college or doing business currently or messing around on your husband or whatever you got out there. China knows it and if they ever need it for some reason it could be anything. They've got that handy on every adult and many of the children in the country that is amazing maybe running a underground guinea pig fighting ring for instance by the way. We're having another bout saturday night at my place. You trains guinea pigs depart each other hark at least a block away. Do they wear some sort of razor life like fighting chickens. Do or how we sharpen their teeth. Smart barrick the piranhas. They're furry cuddly piranhas. it's not for the children. Let me let me read this sentence to you. And i don't think it's hyperbole and i wish everybody would wake up to but the dr- the former director of the national counter intelligence and security centre provided testimony wednesday to the senate and i quote the existential threat. Our nation faces from the communist party of china is the most complex pernicious strategic and aggressive. Our nation has ever faced. I believe that is not the least bit hyperbolic. I is a simple statement of fact. I believe chairman. She would say cheese. They finally caught on. Wow that is what day is that is what we're doing what we've been doing for like thirty years. But congratulations for finally realizing that. Yeah going on. Warn that china's efforts drive a comprehensive and whole of country approach to their efforts to invest leverage infiltrate influence and steal from every corner of us success and that it is estimated that eighty percent of american dolts had all of their personal data stolen by the communist party and the other twenty percent most of the personal data crates scott eighty percent off in twenty percent. Most the communist party has of your personal data. What china what the blank. I've been sand forever with all these big hacks that go on in the and i say is anybody. You've been damaged by this like i don't know personally. Anybody that's been damaged by need these hacks. You're about the experien- hacker this bank or whatever. And then they got all your dad. Okay so is that hurt anybody. I don't know anybody well. This is what's going on. China or russia gets it and they're just waiting to be able to use this if they ever need to. Well that's a kick in the dumplings isn't it. Would that be funnier or kicking the girl. Hey girl yes wanna. I went with dumplings trying to sign. Gonna play that Clint eastwood trailer in a minute or two and for protection. Some people choose a rogue detective with a three fifty seven magnum others. Go with simply safe. This wonderful home security system. It's better than your expensive complicated. One you've used in the past with a little yard sign simply safe is the answer. So this is how simple simply safe is you go to simplisafe dot com slash armstrong. It's gonna take you about two minutes to click around and customize the system for your home. It'll come to you in the mail you'll set it up yourself. 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Not a prequel to any which. I don't think so. I don't think it is now. The movie is called cry macho in the ninety one year old. Clint eastwood stars in it directs and produces it which is amazing. Let's just listen to the trailer. People told me just cut you loose. Say anything howard. I've always thought of you small week and gutless man. No no reason to be rude. Be drunk natural things. Tell you much over. Raiders is your show that they've got gretch. That's my fiji. Then you realize you get older. You don't have any we. All make choices. Name is macho like me. Very true rooster. Whatever what's wrong with that. Nothing i want to name this cart macho. It's okay by me. So he's a elderly. Obviously a rodeo star but guy he'd been a rodeo star in the forties right if you're nine one well maybe not quite but he sent to mexico to retrieve a boy for his father in america or something like that but obviously it has a lot to do with aging and looking back over your life and everything like that which who's got more perspective on that than a ninety one year old. Clint eastwood who i wonder. I wonder if any that macho stuff like. I don't know about his personal life that much. But he made so many movies about being a macho guy. And i wonder if he looks back in and thinks maybe that wasn't a good idea or sillier. I have no idea. Or at the very least he'd liked to amend it. Here's a question for the good folks listening. I can't be the only one well. Are you like us. You're distracted by how much clint eastwood sounds like clint eastwood he. He sounds like somebody doing an imitation of clinton he does a great. Clint eastwood impersonation. It's almost distracting well. He was fairly old when he was like doing. Like dirty harry movies. How old was he. That was like early seventies right. Well they they lasted a long time. I remember watching him in the theaters in the eighties. So but so but if you go back forty years ago that's a long time ago on his fifth ninety one year old. Man you were in your fifties. Yeah he was born in nineteen thirty. Wow man incredible. Any math is not difficult to do. But it's still stunning. And and and and starring in the movie producing directing. I have no idea how much work it is. Producer director movie. But i gotta believe requires a fair amount of Time and attention and just to be alive at ninety one let alone the ability to do a job like. I don't incredible top to clip movies because one is impossible wants to few. I'm biased by the fact that it was on television just the other day. I saw but outlaw josey. Wales is one of my favorite movies of all time guy. Love them yeah. That's that's outstanding. Although i tend to get the the early the spaghetti westerns mixed up. I can't remember which plot point was in which movie because they had some similarity well. This is way later than that. This came out in seventy six or something like that. All right okay. yeah yeah. Unforgiven is my favorite Clinton movie green torino's way up there. I see i'm a big western fan. And that's how. I got introduced to clint eastwood. But grande torino the fantastic movie. It's tough to watch you know and it's tough to watch it but it's beautiful in. Its way i've never seen million dollar baby. I don't think i have either. God that was that was one of the two. Most deceptively sold movies in the history of america. The other being the dog with cancer movie watcher with the jennifer aniston was the hell the name of that fraud marley. Marlene may thank. You could see. Why goes romantic. Comedy of right. The dog gets the big scene chromebooks. Great thanks for that and a boxer girl hit by a bus or something. I i think the most deceptively so movie was the one that won all the oscars the one set in india. And if you watch the trailer thought it was the the dog million slumdog millionaire. If you watch detroiters you thought it was the indian version of greece. Ryall all dancing and singing around boy-meets-girl anything like that. No it was naming and say what it was but it was horrifying. Yeah curse you hollywood. Anyway i'll check out the clint eastwood movie. I'll absolutely watch text line. Four one five two nine five k. ftc I'm am so excited to launch my first podcast luna talks with auto. Paulina with gingrich there. Sixty and iheartmedia. The let me warn. He'll this is not a podcast. Faint of heart or easily offended. This is podcast for those who want to learn to engage be inspired. 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The police yet bush's spent seventy thousand dollars on her own private security. So if i end up spending two hundred thousand if i spend ten ten ten more dollars on it you know what. I gets a be here to do the work. So suck it up and defunding. The police has to happen. We need to define the police have. Put that money into social safety nets because we're trying to save last one of the most nonsensical things. Actually i heard trae guide greg. Gowdy say yesterday on. Fox former congressman. He said That made the least sense of any i've ever seen. I believe i understood. All of those words individually yet together. They were nonsense. I've heard people say. Is she a plant. Like ashir republican. Plant mo- major discredit. Democrats are trying to help them. Take back the house because that's gonna be in ads all across the country that is a a democratic congress. Person saying. I don't care if i spend two hundred thousand dollars on personal security for defunding. The police not even attempting to square. Those two comments acting is if one was the argument. In favor of the it just was gamal is nonsensical. Obviously what's here at one time. That was weird. There's a fracture in the democratic party. Over defunding police starts with progressive corey bush of missouri. She wants to defend the police yet. Bush spent seventy thousand dollars on her own private security. So if end up spending two hundred thousand. If i spend ten ten ten more dollars on it you know what i get to be here to do the work. So suck it up and defunding. The police has to happen. We need to define the police. Put that money into social safety nets because we're trying to save lives and then we all individually paid for bodyguards. Okay it is what it is. I mean they're really requiring more commentary it just it. It is exactly what it appears to be. It's someone saying something that makes absolutely no sense. It's the worst political slogan in history of running for election and Go ahead jeez who she beat. Ah canned ham a dog the election holy crap. That's nonsense. oh hey real. Quick got a nice note from our police officer. Josh who was explaining narcan narcan works by blocking the receptors that the opiate the opioid uses to attach to the body wants. The receptors are blocked. The opiate can no longer attach person wakes up in his immediate withdrawal from the drug. It's a it's a medical miracle. I'll tell you that. Thanks josh for the Update for the enlightenment. We were talking about. Clint eastwood Jumped on wikipedia to look up some clint eastwood because he's got a new movie. That's coming out in a couple of weeks. That sounds pretty good. He's ninety one years old. He was born in nineteen thirty in san francisco. California magin what. Sanford he was he was born when there were a lots of people. Almost everybody around had lived through the nineteen o six earthquake. i mean. that's how old clint eastwood is. Wow and then he of course. He ended up being the mayor of carmel for awhile. According to wikipedia has at least eight children. There's a lot of dispute over a number of other kids out there. From a whole bunch of different women his most all kinds of oscars for of for for for for really great stuff but most financially successful movies were the Driving around fighting people allied with them rang. Tang movies Those are the ones that made him the most money. I didn't realize that does that. Not tell you everything you need to know about humanity. Yeah no kidding And he has had a lot of really successful movies that he didn't star in. It might not remember. He was behind letters from you. A jima mystic river american sniper with which said all kinds of box offer records. He was the guy who was behind that so not as good as the fighting ranga. Tang contend didn't fight. 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Listen this is your chance to tell your story so launch your podcast for free now at spreaker dot com slash start that's s. p. r. Ea ktar dot com slash. Start from the iheart podcast network. Welcome to today's edition of the clay. Travis and buck sexton show podcast. Welcome back in final hour of the week. Fourteen hours up fifteen hour rolling through encourge you as always go see out. The whole show on podcast. If you miss any other we love all of our four hundred plus affiliates in all fifty states but man alex berenson was fantastic at the top of the second hour discussing everything the latest cova data where we may be headed based on what happened in israel. We've also been talking about the rapid collapse of afghanistan the rise of the taliban the fact that we've had to call in three thousand troops. Vox spent time in afghanistan. We've been discussing that. We are going to have a little bit of fun because it is friday the thirteenth. And we want to send you into the weekend with at least some positive thoughts in general but with all the cova vaccine mandates spiraling down in philadelphia new orleans san francisco l. La new york city. But we haven't talked about yet. What is an unmitigated disaster. Another one order another one. The border buck sexton. While the biden administration may be talking about try which is earlier story today. The ap reported that the biden administration is considering restricting travel between states over co vaccines. Buck the situation on the border in july. Two hundred twenty thousand. I think it was nearly people came across. it's basically a sieve. There's no protection there at all for all of the talk about the concern surrounding kovic. You've got people pouring across the border in numbers that haven't been seen in twenty or more years and now we've got people in the biden administration finally acknowledging that it's broke Behind closed doors. Yeah not not acknowledging in a way where we could say. Oh you mean you guys are starting to wake up the reality. let's just be clear. Clay i was. I was down in the rio grande day sector of the. Us mexico border. I either in march or april. It's been a few months now. But i was down there with. Were doing you know. Essentially ride along with border patrol going to see what they're seeing and every border patrol agent. I talked to without exception. When i when i posed a very straightforward question to them is the border open right now they say yes every single member of border patrol and immigration customs enforcement that i spoke to who are willing to speak to me. Of course the bottom ministration doesn't want the speaking antibody. When i asked him as the border the worst right now in terms of lawlessness illegal crossings human smuggling drugs transiting including the fenton oil that was largely responsible for killing over ninety thousand americans last year. Thirty thousand than ever before said the worst that it has ever been and as you just teed this up the s. secretary may orcas is in a leaked audio fox news saying that it's unsustainable no surprise you random. I know the body wasn't great and we still forever and he said it's unsustainable we cannot keep having these numbers. Were looking all policy options. This is the guy in charge of. Dhs who behind closed doors when he's not in front of cameras is saying all those things those right wingers have been saying about. Our border is true. It isn't i speak for themselves. Buck i mean so much of this is about narrative versus data. You and i focus on the data to make arguments most for the most part. I don't know if this is something. I've been talking about for years now. I don't know what the average person in the media is too dumb to look at data and glean lessons from it. Which is one option and i think it probably applies to some people or two. They are so committed to whatever narrative. They're being told to push that they don't even recognize or unwilling to discuss when the data clearly demonstrates that whatever narrative they're pushing is untrue so clay we do have right now. A briefing at the pentagon we wanted to can. We'd come join us in progress guys live. Here's john kirby pentagon press secretary in just the day or so is because we had plenty of contingency planning In the works and in fact a lot of the complete Because we were as. I've said many times from the podium watching consistently the security situation on the ground so i can give you a brief update a few additional details since yesterday. Now as i do this. I think you can understand that. I'm not gonna have every detail that you might want their operational security. That's still going to be a concern and we're gonna. We're gonna observe that here as we have throughout the entire draw down process. But i can tell you a couple of things first. Us forces afghanistan forward continue to provide security at the kabul airport and at the embassy. These are the existing security elements that were already in kabul this comprised of attack and lift aviation assets infantry security personnel and some intelligence surrounding reconnaissance assets. That are already there at the airport. And they stay there and they are still doing their jobs. in terms of internal security there hamid karzai international airport the troop movements that we mentioned yesterday are happening. As we speak three battalions Are preparing to move from their current locations in the central command area responsibility to kabul and they consist of a marine battalion that was already pre staged in the region and has lift sustainment and support capabilities and infantry another marine infantry battalion from a marine expeditionary unit and a us army infantry battalion now some elements of one of the marine infantry battalions are already there in kabul just delete element there. The rest of their forces will continue to flow over the next couple of days. And i expect that by the end of the weekend. The bulk of the three thousand that we talked about yesterday. We'll be in place. Probably not all but the bulk from the united states the brigade combat team that we mentioned from the eighty second airborne division That is prepared to go to kuwait as a ready. Reserve force Will they are now preparing to deploy. I do not have information that suggests. They're on the way right now. But i suspect that in very short over They will start to deploy into arrive movement of some of the neighbors that we talked about yesterday designated to support the special immigrant visa processing in the region. That is also begun. These are primarily medical personnel. I think i told you yesterday. It's a mixed medical personnel. Some military police Some electrical engineers that kind of thing. They are preparing to go. I do not have an indication today that they have actually left again. They are not going into afghanistan Originally going to be sent into the region for further use as needed to support the iv process now far as aircraft are concerned to support the movement of civilian personnel trance. Com is as we speak Working on their plans and they're sourcing solutions with air mobility command and working it out with central command as well to support this mission Forces in support requirements are going to be rapidly assessed by their planners. They're working on that while we're not going to be able to give out a lot of detail today Again the plans in sourcing for aircraft support airlift Are being worked out We'll have more to say about that when it's appropriate and when we can but i do want to stress that airlift will not be a limiting factor in this mission. Airlift will not be a limiting factor. And as i said yesterday. It's not all going to be a military aircraft that are used there are how many cars international airport is still open commercial. Flights are still going in and out. And it doesn't doesn't. I don't want to convey the sense that that every lift of every individual is going to be done on a great military aircraft though they will be made available all right so we just wanted to give you what what the pentagon is saying here. They're they're really just focusing in on on the force protection. Clay of what they're not saying is in evacuation. But i can tell you having worked in places where we had to think about evacuation plans had to prepare for it This is this. Is the you know everybody gets to the lifeboats put. Don't panic moment of the pentagon. That's what we're seeing right now on full and i appreciate that. Look we got americans in harm's way we want all of our people back safe and sound first and foremost the most important thing. So i appreciate kirby's tone and poise here. That's what you would want but let's not. Let's not make any mistake about this clay. They're saying kaba could fall tomorrow. It's like there was no afghan army to fight against the taliban and it's like we were never there. I mean that that's what's wild. You are seeing all this. American military apparatus billions of dollars effectively now in taliban hands and the question that is going to be asked for. I think for years to come is how much danger are. We creating by effectively allowing the taliban to take back control of afghantistan and by the way we want our american soldiers and all american employees the embassy to get out safely. We don't want another benghazi but remember all the talk about how we were lifting up all the women of afghanistan and how we were going to give them to get educations and go to school when we were gonna nation bill than we were creating a new dynamic in that country. All of those people are now back under the thumb of the taliban. Which when you look at the disconnect between the egalitarian world that the democratic party claims to favour and what is now going to be the case in afghanistan. It's just another fail. Failure and hypocrisy for joe biden. Really i mean i. I wonder at some point. Are people going to start to point to all of the failures of this biden administration. I think it's gonna be hard to avoid how much how much is too much. Is the question that you want to start to ask about this biden team. What have they done. Well remember how they were doing. All the victory dances about covert and vaccination. Oh there's so much better at distributing shots i mean. Trump did operation warp speed but the distribution which they already had in place after pretending. They didn't win. The biden team took over. That was their big calling card. Clay that and the economy which by the way they won't have really bad inflation but actually looks like it is gonna have some really bad inflation every choice. They're making fail. The border awful choices leading do awful outcomes crime awful choices about de-fund police leading to awful outcomes afghanistan the evacuation the draw down awful choices leading awful outcomes. I mean you really have to think what i guess. They're better about preferred pronoun usage in this white house. So yeah we can have some really funny. It's really funny thing to think about. Unfortunately were all bearing the brunt of the failures. What have they actually done. Well just crickets. I mean and not only not done. Well what has not blown up in their faces in disastrous fashion. And i really think if alex berenson's right which is why. I would encourage everybody to go. Listen to that interview. We did with him at the beginning of the second hour. This cove implosion is going to be impossible to ignore and covert is going to become a metaphor for failure. Just remember their failures. unfortunately only result in more authoritarianism. That's long there'd be ready for that is the fear. And that's what i that's what i would expect going four but clay. We can come back and we'll we're going to be following pentagon press brief briefing in case. There's anything that comes out of it. 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Call text or chat one eight eight eight five three two three five zero zero download. The caesar sportsbook at your at is ready emperor. Welcome back to the clay travis in buck sexton show third hour of our friday the thirteenth show and we will be talking about buki movies and scary movies and things like that. We wanna send everybody off for the weekend without us just about the. Unfortunately the news right. Now there's some there's some tough stuff out there. We are watching the situation. Afghantistan very closely. We're also watching the catastrophe at the border and the reality of the covy mandates for Vaccines and all the rest of it. But speaking of which. I mean my theory about biden. Clay is that nothing should be surprising to any of us because when you elect a second tier politician with a third tier intellect. Who's never been impressive. One moment in his very long public life. You're going to get an administration that looks like what we're seeing right now. But he's got a little bone to pick with you. Mr travis or at least with some of the folks who have been making noise in tennessee about mask mandates video reports from tennessee protesters threatening doctors and nurses or before scoreboard making the case. That the keep kids safe. There should be mandatory masks and as they walked out his doctors were threatened. These nurses are threatened in our healthcare workers are heroes. The heroes vaccine menem gave their lives trying to save others. They're heroes again with vaccine. They're doing their best to care for the people refusing to get vaccinated to the mayor's school superintendents educators local leaders for standing up to the governor's politicizing mass protection for our kids. Thank you thank god that we have heroes like you and i stand with you. All in america should as well. Pardon me while. I clean up the vomit off my shoes but go ahead klay masks. Don't work mr president. There's no evidence that they work at all. And i'm fired up because i went tuesday night to make that argument in front of my local school board and there were over a thousand parents there and kids arguing against masks. And you know what happened buck. This is what happens all too often. There were two or three people which we played the audio on this. Show just yelling that they disagreed as the people who had counter veiled the overwhelming majority of people in my school district's opinion and voted masks for kids. That were telling those people that they didn't support that choice in no uncertain terms. It wasn't like it was violent. It wasn't like there was danger. It wasn't anything like that at all. They took that clip about twenty seconds and tried to turn it into a representative sample of what happened on tuesday with over a thousand people there and this is so unfortunate because it. What's what happens all the time. And they're trying to demonize people who don't believe in masks and look at the data awful human beings and we aren't were actually. I believe the majority of sane people in america right now yes but unfortunately we're not calling the shots in a lot of these cities. I worry that we're gonna come back on monday. Clay and they'll be even more places with vaccine passport mandates in place even more localities that decided to go with this. But we're going to hold that because the field of dreams baseball game. Good things happen to i. You know. I had to get alex berenson to say that. Because he's such a doom and gloom. I wanted there's been positively. And here's some positivity for you. How about american history and civics education at a turning-point. We can't allow bureaucrats and to choose what school children are taught. We need to teach the whole truth and my friends at hillsdale college argue for teaching the truth. They've made the hillsdale seventeen seventy six curriculum downloadable for free at k twelve dot hillsdale dot. Edu not only the teachers but to citizens like you and me to share with other concerned americans k. Through twelve history complete history and civics curriculum with educators getting guidance not mandates that allows students to learn the tragedies and triumphs of americans history as it really happened through a completely honest study of history so they can understand the world in which they live. They deserve our children. Due to be taught the truth through a sound curriculum created by teachers not bureaucrats. We need right now for you. To download hillsdale seventy seventy six curriculum for free at k. Twelve dot hillsdale's audi edu. That's k twelve hillsdale dot. Edu walking clay travis buck sexton final half hour of what has been. I mean. it's kinda wild to think about buck. All the different stories. That have happened this week. I mean just even while we were on the air andrew cuomo resigns and by the way the new york state house and senate their state assembly have said that they will see their impeachment proceedings. Now that he is resigning which means there's no lasting censure that is coming from the political realm there at least four andrew cuomo afghanistan on the verge of falling all sorts of cove insanity. If you're just starting off with us we discussed begin. This show philadelphia new orleans san francisco. La new york city all different versions of vaccine passports. The border is a sieve. It is it is increasingly pure bedlam all over the place. Cities are killing field. So we're like man it's friday. Let's have a little bit of fun. So i got a positive story for you. Buck field of dreams is going to be one of the most watched regular season baseball games in probably a couple of decades. What they did for those of you who are fans of the original movie which came out all the way back in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine was they built. The iowa cornfield baseball field and yesterday the yankees and the white sox played a game it ended in a walk off home. Run into the corn stalks. It was riveting television. It was fabulous in all respects. They began the the the the game. By having kevin costner walk out of the corn stalks like he did in the movie and then all of the players walked out of the corn stalks as well and i gotta tell you. It was an incredible scene a lot of fun. I know that a huge number. I would imagine of our listeners. Watched it buck sexton. I bet you didn't see one on once. Have you seen a highlight of the game. I was busy digging into. What's going on in afghanistan clay. I hate to break it to you. I did not have time to see the film. I did watch the movie back in the day did you. Why some movie i. I like the movie i would say. I think i'd give you a kevin costner. Fan klay. the process raise. Mike made me think it's not necessarily an endorsed. So here's the thing. I would argue and our audience. People can get you know. They have very different opinions on this. I'm sure i would argue that. Kevin costner's body of work includes some very good movies. That does not mean that. Kevin costner is one of my favorite or even very good actors. That's the that's the only controversial. Did i feel like you replace it with a lot of other guys in the eighties and nineties and nobody would have known the different. I wanted all right. So we're gonna open up the phone. Line tramline on kevin costner. And here's the deal. I loved kevin costner already but i love the television show yellowstone. I can't wait for season. I think it's three or four. I'm caught up. I think it season three. That's about to start you hate yellowstone air. I feel like it's a little bit bleak and a little depressing and the people involved are all leading very kind of sad and empty lives. Put that said the sets are beautiful. I like all the scenes of buffalo and montana and all that other stuff. So i got through a bow five or six because a lot of people that i like and respect out there have said you gotta check out this show i love this show whereas like like i also longmire which has kind of like that. I found easier for me. That i don't know if you've ever seen that one it's about a sheriff out west Sort of similar situation Similar setting. I mean to to yellowstone. But i mean. Kevin kevin costner. I don't know. I feel like he plays the same. You know. I love vince vaughn right. I love vince for. We should actually have informed on the show at some point. I'm a big vince vaughn fan. It is also true to say vince. Vaughn plays himself in every movie. He's ever been like he plays vince. Vaughn i think that's true of kevin costner. But i just think the kevin costner is. You know. I don't get excited about other people. That's so i've never been to montana. So waterworld right come on. Yeah that was like twenty five years ago. Look at this look. Field of dreams was fantastic. Bull durham was fantastic. What was the one where it was out in the west and he was dances with wolves he got the wall. The biggest hollywood draw in the country for a couple of years there. I think that's fair. I think that's fair to say from like eight hundred. Eight to ninety four kevin. Costner was as big of a movie star. There was anywhere in the world right. I mean i'm guessing those those also apparently a good guy from like the rumor mill that i'm able to pick up seven degrees of six degrees of kevin bacon or whatever way i love yellowstone. I think his character in yellowstone is absolutely phenomenal. I love everything about now. I've never been to montana. But i did find out montana's time really place but out to park city. In march with my family and found out that they filmed a lot of the yellowstone scenery in like in that utah area which is also incredibly beautiful. So i think our audience is going to be wildly favorable towards yellowstone and kevin costner. You know people are gonna like they're going to yellowstone. I think well because there's also very few hot like well done. High production shows that. Take that part of america and try to pick it right. I mean you have endless shows. Now that are set in new york and los angeles and miami yellowstone were accurate. The murder rate in montana Be like it would make chicago. Look like the safe to you. Got this sheriff. Who's out in in the dakotas or whatever and you know this guy's into cartel gunfights with eight guys at a time. You're like. I don't know i don't know if like billings. Montana is really getting that wild with the gun with gunfights in contemporary days. I'm not sure about that. But you know. I love deadwood too but in a similar fashion right now through. Deadwood is amazing. I'm like almost almost wanna just started that one recently but do all. We want to take a couple of field of dreams call and then talk about friday the thirteenth and scary cy young friday the thirteenth by the way out their roles. Yeah everyone don't walk under a ladder. Peter in california. What do you got for us. Friday claimed bought. Thank you so. I really appreciated the field of dreams game lbj. And i've ever seen. I hope the be making a permanent thing going forward and i really really appreciate it so much as for what as for idea. I've got for for outdoor game not sporting event the nfl should hold. Some should hold the football game annually at the remember tyson stadium or friday night lights eighty. But i think that'd be really incredible. I also love if we're talking. Thank you so much. Friday night show better set in like a part of america. That doesn't always get as front analyze them. I watched it all the way through twice. that's one of the best dramas to ever air on network television. I mean it's it's an incredible show in for those of you out there who may be missed it or didn't see it it is it's riveting incredible. I like the idea by the way the nfl's adding a seventeenth game. I love the idea of every. Nfl team playing a seventeenth game and a non traditional steno fans wouldn't otherwise get to see nfl game right like so if you play the game in montana or in utah or in you know. I don't know arkansas like all these different places. That don't have access to nfl stadiums. I think it'd be really cool to do. Yeah well let's get Chris in conroe texas. What's up chris. Hey clam buck. I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to a wonderful job. carrying the torch of a russian We all love you. Thank you appreciate that. This is as far as cost goes I don't feel what this politics. But i've i've enjoyed most of his movies. Respirator bull durham Dances with wolves was was Fantasy was beautiful And then the one. I really enjoy most recently was the nets clips. The highway man cuckoo. Chris thank you hannah. I'm sorry you're cutting off a little bit there. But he was saying that he liked. Kevin costner's the highwayman about bonnie. and clyde. i actually why netflix. I haven't seen it very good very well. Very very well done. Very true-to-life excellent Actually i would say that was one of my favorite kevin costner appearances if no yellowstone. I'm gonna get i like that. You're all in on yellow still way you're all in on yellowstone ray in iowa ray. What do you got as i like Field of dreams. I'm not a baseball fan. But i liked it and like after wolves until dorado the rest are kinda If you're corny however you wanna call have you seen yellowstone yet ray. No i haven't added to the list. All right yeah ray. Thank you so much klay. i'll just say this We're also not even count. There's like that movie where kevin costner. The last vote in america determine the primary. I know everyone forgotten her. Yeah yeah eight. Some questionable decisions degrees in there. He's got yes. Wrote some rough stuff along with the ones that were all thrown out there talking about. It's funny i remember. We talked about sports movies your favorite all-time major-league league i said rocky right. That was the that was afraid just from a pure entertainment perspective. I ask people what their favorite baseball movie was. And people love the. Sam watt now. The san watt a little bit younger than us. But my kids think san joaquin great movie. All right let's come back. Let's come back into some Some weekend thoughts for all of you as well as friday the thirteenth. You know if you're into. I i haven't even. I've never asked klay about scary. Love scatter feeling you would. I'm actually. We have a big halloween party every year. My wife is all in on it. It's one of my favorite thing that i'm a little. I'm a little bit I dunno. I stay away from the super scary movies. I'll tell you why don't we come back if you haven't already hooked yourself up with some of mike lindell's products from my pillow. You're missing out all right. They're incredible we've got the my pillow's in my household is me but we had the my pillow's we got the giza dream sheets towels. We got my slippers. They're amazing and the products that started it. All for mike lindell. I mean this is a great american company and mic stands against cancel culture and the lockdown crazy left in ways that really matter by supporting and partnering with shows like this clay. you got the same products amen. I love the products. But i love the fact that mike is not backing down from what he believes in and you need to support people who are willing to do that in our cancel culture era. I've got to dream sheets everywhere. They're made from the world's best cotton and right. 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They've become kind of a tourist attraction. Now yes for me. Scariest movie ever made. Especially as a roman catholic went to jesuit school growing up the exorcist. no question they're remaking the exorcist. I think right i like a new trilogy. I believe i felt like they just sold that recently to one of the streaming companies. But i gotta tell you this in college. One of the most fun places to be was georgetown for halloween. People go all out. Everybody's dressed up. It's an incredibly awesome seen in our nation's capital georgetown. I mean for college. That was one of the most fun things you could do. I love scary movie. No but what's the scariest of all time clay. We've got a pin. You down here buddy. You can't you can't appeal to all the scary movie fans you gotta pick aside. I will tell you this. After one of the conjuring movies i went to go see it by myself. I came back home and my kids and my wife were out of town. And i left every light in the house on and i locked the bedroom door because i was. This is me you know. Thirty six thirty seven years. It's not like i was like cocktail. Twelve gauge you're right. I was a grown man who left all the lights on my house and walked all the doors. After i went to go see the i love those conjuring movies. Those are spooky. Those are well done conjuring all right. I've never seen one and probably go there good. I do scary movies especially anything to do with demons. Are that's what that's what it all. Gosh yeah i can't. I spoke to a priest once. Who does the whole extra scary. And i was like. Don't ever just real. I wanna talk to you about this again. Yeah i was yeah. That's not something we're going to. Let's get to the calls. Shall we and friday the thirteenth wanda in maine. Wanda welcome. hi I love kevin costner. Yellowstone best television show on tv. There you go look. That is my favorite next to kevin. Koch klay gets his cousins to call in with such regularity wanda. Thank you so much for calling in for me and we appreciate right now succession is my favorite show. I would i would cosign. It's not on right now. Right they're seasons about to start a brilliant show app so well told him by. Allistone is my second favorite. And i would recommend for anybody out there peaky blinders but don't be shy about putting the subtitles on because it's really hard to understand. What the heck those people are talking about. Oh yeah sal in eastern pennsylvania. what's up sal. God rest rush limbaugh. I we're fighting in the white house. Every day is friday the thirteenth. Alright bad sell gotta say we're trying to the close out positively and then sal just comes right. We're not talking with biden yet. There's been a lot of negativity out there in america. We're saying hey let's send people into the weekend on a good mood and then south says every other subject to it. There's some truth to it haven down in tampa florida. What's up david. I just wanna say he robbed. He would never be doing Current movies that you're talking about Kevin costner wouldn't have been as good. Yeah with thirst. Being tutored by robert divall. Aw robert divall is so good. You like westerns. My wife makes fun of me about this television. Miniseries lonesome dove based on the larry mcmurtry novel. Tommy lee jones and robert divall one of the best westerns ever made. You seen it have books phenomenal. I just made myself watch the the outlaw. Josey wales fro. Yeah yeah. I have to say i think held up held up very well as a film. I think it was really solid. I was impressed. That sounds like clint eastwood. Such an american icon. I think we probably would agree on that one. Yes and an incredible. You look at his recent movies actually watching the line of fire recently too because it was a great movie holds up really really well market ohio. You got some field of dreams thoughts At the cleveland indians fan. Which i'm not sure if i'm still to say that or not. Uh we'll bleep it in post but that will bleep it in post. Go ahead go. I was watching the game last night. I just thought it was kind of interesting. The only math guy saw being horn was by girl sitting right behind home plate so every time the camera we'll go to the batter. You would see her right back there and then she like. Oh i got put back on. Okay mark thanks so much man. Thank you everybody for calling in and joining us here to have some fun on a friday. Some movie talks. Show talk to end things clay. We already know. I mean over the course this weekend. We're going have huge stories for everybody monday. If you miss anything today please go to klay and book dot com. Also check out our podcast. The clay travis and buck sexton show no doubt thank you also for the early support you have shown we had a caller talking about it but all over the nation. 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Paul Dechant on Unforgiven

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Paul Dechant on Unforgiven

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Learn more at can't cancel pride dot com welcome to movie crush production of iheartradio. Hey everybody welcome to movie. Crush friday interview edition in here with paul again after. It seems like it's been a minute paul. I think it's been since before. I moved to new york. Come word that's where i'm coming to you now from the threat you're in brooklyn i am. Yeah a little closet right now in brooklyn come out of the closet. Paul already come. Maybe maybe by the end of this episode. i will. That's right and you know we've spoken syncing obviously but I'm everyone should know that you're doing well. You got a great place. You're happy you're living with With your lady friend now finally after Quite a while apart so congratulations. Thanks man yeah. I appreciate it. I'm enjoying new york. It's hot though. And i'm getting used to having window air conditioners instead of a centrally. See those window. They can pump it out sometimes. Though that they're good they can but it's just a it's just an adjustment for sure. Yeah sometimes you have to wait. Wait to get cool rather than having it right away. New york hot is different too. it's pretty steamy. The concrete makes it very unpleasant. Yes agreed But enough about new york city. Because we're here to talk about a western. We haven't done the mini westerns on this show and when he threw out a shortlist of movies and forgiven was on there and it had been a while since i've seen it so i jumped all over this one. I'm glad man. I'm a on a western fan and I in fact unforgiven though. I i see this for the first time until a couple of months ago. I've kind of been going on a clint eastwood kick and Mostly like the films. He's directed himself and unforgiven is always has always been considered one of his top movies. You're and so. I don't know just like a couple months ago i watched it and i was just like blown away by how great it was and really excited to talk about it today. Do great. I didn't know that this was new to you Clint eastwood And he He is someone who's politics. I don't agree with. But i just i love the guy even so you know it's i forget about all that stuff. He this at the believe his movie coming out this year will be either his thirty ninth fortieth film as director which is just crazy man. He's not. I don't feel like he's on the shortlist for a lot of people for best directors and he should be at the tender age of ninety one. I think He's pumping out movies. One one every year at this rate And it's just it's honestly it's pretty inspiring to like watch at this point because You know some of them are hit and miss. But i like a lot of them especially his recent work and just the way he works and like like you mentioned i. I tend to disagree with his politics as well. But i think that that'll make this conversation richer because despite his politics i personally find a lot more ambivalence and Nuance in his movies than you might think from somebody who to sort of caricature is him. You might think of as a crotchety old conservative guy telling young people to get off my lawn. You know yeah. I mean he. He's really not doing a lotta that in his movies against grande torino had had a bit of that element to it but green. Torino's fucking great. I love that movie. Yeah i actually just watched it on a plane a couple of weeks ago for the first time. Yeah it's good yemen. It's good and it's it's so fun to dive into like sort of his psyche because again he has these surprisingly like progressive views or things. He shows his movies and despite him sort of being like a sort of old fashioned guy who believes in. Like say you know strong men and you know he thinks america's become nation pussies. I stuff like that. Sure and i think and unforgiven is is a great example of sort of he sort of deconstructs genre that is known for sort of the strong silent. Man you know yeah and this is a movie that was. I think everyone kind of thought this was his his goodbye to westerns and it kind of had been although his new movie coming out is sort of a western Not quite like this. I think it said in the seventies but it definitely is a is a bit of a western But this definitely is is his last sort of harare to the the the pale rider character. The josey wales strong silent type and I remember when it came out it was. It seemed very much a sort of statement movie like this is it. This is going to be my my swansong for this kind of movie. And what a statement. It is first of all The fact that it won four oscars including best picture surprises me because how great it is and Meaning i feel like a lot of the times. The best picture often goes to a film that might be good in my opinion but not the best of that year and i forget what else would have been nominated that year but when i look at like the i looked recently at the list of all the best picture winners for the past forty years like i can't think of handful of them that i consider like cannon movies that like right people still talk about and i would still go back to and movies that just have stood the test of time and i think unforgiven is one of them for sure. Yeah as this one. The best picture Yet best picture. And i've got it somewhere here. Best director amid to look that up. Okay editing best. Supporting actor for gene hackman god. And he's good. Yeah and then eastward himself was nominated for best actor but lost to al pacino for scent of a woman who a movie i still haven't seen. I saw it ages ago. But i need a need to revisit it. I think it's funny the A couple of comments on that one best editing. I love that this one best editing because it is such a thoughtfully edited and paste movie. And i think that they don't get recognized as much There's nothing flashy about this movie. It is a very very simple story was at a fly. there's a gigantic fly in my closet. Here yeah And then the the with with hackman. It's funny you mentioned pacino. Because i was thinking. When i was watching this how people make such a out of like win deniro pacino finally got together and heat and they shared the screen and it was great. And they've done that. I think since then but like why isn't evening anyone talking about eastwood in hackman cheering the screen and then throw in morgan freeman. Like a third legend on top of it. It's like to me. That was seeing those two guys. Go toe to toe is just as big a deal to me. Gene hackman's one of my favorite of all time. I'm like i miss him so so much i know i know. Yeah he's he's so good in it and The role he plays. It's easy to sort of say like oh you can't imagine this role being played by anybody else. But i i really feel that with this role and and like you said i don't have. They worked in him and he stood work together on any other films. Not that i can think of. I can't i mean there's probably some obvious when that everyone is like gonna make fun of us for forgetting. I can't really think of anything. And then richard harris is in it too. It's like good lord. Yeah it's it's funny. 'cause like i what i most know. Richard harris for is playing dumbledore in the first two harry potter movies. Get out right. Now get out of that closet in leave so many you. Before he passed away he was dumbledore for two movies. And so he's like you know this wise old gentle soul in harry potter and then seeing him i i've sent i know he has had a long illustrious career aside from harry potter but i seeing him in that another role he really sort of the scenery a great way. Yeah i love english bob. He's east pretty great. It's i thought it was funny. How in another great role for him saw as a champ. The the writer The writer who has no stomach for the stuff he wants to record the old west he wants to be the biographer for these guys that i think he feels like he admires but i think he admired bob because bob was this sort of winning fund jovial englishman when the tables are turned and then he is the by for a little bill He's he's in over his head and he knows it in that he's a sadist and a an genuinely evil person in. that's not who english. Bob was the beau champ character. Yeah he fascinates me for for a lot of reasons. And i think you hit on it When you're talking about like the myth of the old west and now i feel like the western compared to some other genres is kind of a very much of cinema right. That cinema really created the western. So we have this sort of archetypes. The archetypes of westerns. You know the good gunslinger Staring down outgunned outmanned staring down a room of bad guys and taking them all out against the odds and beau champ is is writing these basically very much fictitious stories as we learn with english bob when little bill sort of corrects him on missouri. Who was writing about okay. Here's what actually happened. It was not heroic at all. Bob was drunk and story about murky. That was pretty funny. Yeah the duck. The duck of death really duke. The duke of death the duck of death really just kinda got lucky and took his time and shot the guy sort of unarmed and without any honor in quotation marks and then though the sort of bo champs switches allegiances and he stays with hackman. Because he's enamored with hearing hackman stories and then you see them sort of In in hackman's leaky house with ruth leaking water. And he's telling more stories and you can tell that he's embellishing them himself right. Yeah that's just the lows in it. Yeah and then. Finally what i think is interesting is during the final shootout when when eastwood shows up and he you know he kills the room of quote unquote bad guys and and beau champ is in the back and you see though. His face like light up three enters the room once he starts taking out guys. He's like he's he's sort of twisted -ly fascinated by and he's almost like oh this is this is the the best one of them. All this is the king of slingers and he immediately says okay. Who did you shoot first. And it's usually traditionally the the fastest gun you want to take out the most lethal and he switches like. Oh i just got lucky you know. But he's clearly alike still fascinated by this and even though he's witnessed this horrific violence he still wants to sort of embellish it and write more books about it yet an eastwood key. Because they're they're all like bill. Bill's kinda pooh-poohing the whole biographer. Thing until he is his biographer. And he's way into it and he's embellishing like you said in adding to the the mystifying of these of himself in people like him But but Money just will. Money doesn't care about any of that stuff like that his chance. His entry point is to go right like he has the chance. The doors open to start telling his story to this guy and he just doesn't give a shit he doesn't want it he'd want to kill people anymore. He doesn't want to glorify killing people anymore. I mean that's what this whole movie is about is about the the guilt that this man feels about the horrible things he's done in his past and how he feels he is a bad guy and he was a bad guy killed women and children and was drunk. I yeah i think that's sort of late in the film revelation. Yeah where. I think one of the prostitutes says. Oh you're the guy. Little bill said you're the guy who dynamited so and so's place and killed women and children and suddenly as a viewer. You immediately suddenly like your world. View is rocked. Because you wanted to think of eastwood's character as this like stoic guy. Who probably killed for good reasons in his past and yeah things got a little dirty but always did maybe not the right thing but the thing that needed to be done And suddenly you're like wait a minute. This guy is not nearly as Heroux eric and worth admiration as i might have thought it makes you make a choice You know like 'cause you know something was up. Because he's a band clearly haunted from his past. They sorta lead you to believe that it's only because of his wife who had passed away But the you could tell that there's something more he's drinking anymore Alcoholism is different back. Then because it annoyed me how much morgan freeman kept trying to get him to drink again. And i was like stop. You not supposed to do. That don't enable them. i don't think enabling was the word back then yeah But boy that makes it so powerful when he takes up auto at the end and finally starts drinking. You know yeah so. I'm very curious that that sort of ending. We've been talking about a little bit where he finally shows up to the saloon And he basically. He's outmanned outgunned and yet he takes out. I don't know guys who knows maybe more without a scratch on him like when you're watching that what is your reaction to it I was into it. Because i like a good revenge. Killing in a movie Little bill was a bad guy. I think they set it up such that. You would definitely root for that because of the The beginning was so brutal when they cut that woman up that was a brutal seemed to see. And so you really want those fucking guys to to get there's But those guys had already gotten. There's it's interesting like he kills the bar. Saloon owner In cold blood it just for you know. Having morgan freeman body displayed out in front which he didn't really have a choice of i imagine little bill was you know he's calling all the shots in that down so i mean that's kind of one of the things i like about. This movie is there. It's not so clear cut and they are a little ambiguous with who you should be rooting for But he the one of the best parts of that whole scene is when he's like you know any any any man that doesn't wanna get shot can just gone out the back office fucking guys. Just get the hell out of there. And they have a chance to kill onto and they're just they you know they're scared. Yeah and it kind of goes back to what little bob was saying to champ earlier about. How it's not the who. Who's the fastest gun it's Who stays the coolest under pressure. Thank god that scene. Can we talk about that scene. Yeah absolutely jail. Yeah when he Little bob gives him the gun. Basically and i mean that whole scene is great. because that's when he sorta reveals that. Bob english bob had been stretching the truth. It's really long scene. And then he gets him that gun and he says he tells him to cock it and he points it right at his chest and all that guy's got to squeeze the trigger any knows he won't and then he tells them. The handed english bob and is just such a power play. You know in my mind it links up to the scofield kid character who who has actually never killed anybody but sees himself or tells everybody. He's this this bad man killer and ultimately though like ver i think it shows with the beau champ taking the gun. It's like very few of us would actually have the nerve or have the whatever you call it able to do that and it takes a certain kind of person to be able to do that and even back then even back then you know i. I don't think there's much of a moral judgment placed on. What type of person that is. Is it somebody who has all the guys we see who are able to kill are kind of psychopaths a little bit. You know. or they have like they're they're not the best people so it's like the ability to kill people. What do you lose your soul in the process or something like that you know. Yeah i mean that's again. That's sort of the central premise of this movie is. What does it take to do this. What is it do to you like. How does it change you as a person in this case a man to do it I mean it. It's one of the classic lines movie. History now is is clinton at one point when and this. That's what i texted you immediately. When he said unforgiven a hell of a thing killing a man takeaway. You take away everything. He's got and everything he's ever gonna to have. And i think you see on the kids face like he never even considered what it would feel like kids. He was drawn in by the by billy. The kid and all these stories you know he wanted all the all the notoriety and stuff until it actually happened. and then it just rectum. Yeah and the stories that somebody like both champ probably makes money off of writing you know right and yet the performance. So the actor. I had to look them. Up james woven. Who plays the scofield kid. I haven't seen much else. He was great. Yeah he's great. And i love that. He so grading an annoying for like most of the movie intentionally and then the performance. He gives in that scene where he breaks down after killing. One of the guys. Like it's just it's it's a great performance and it just heartbreaking. Because you see you can literally see the psyche shift in that scene and then you know the moment where he says you know. I'm not. I'm not picking up a gun again and i'm never killing anyone again. If there's any sort of hope to be found in the movie like this it's the lack that somebody like him takes that view and sort of decides to leave this life behind you know yet and you get the feeling that that's going to haunt him for the rest of his life even though that guy really deserved what he had common Which leads me to another one of my favorite lines about you. Know the guy kind of deserving it is when little bill is dying on the floor of the saloon and he says i don't deserve to die like this and Money just says deserves got to do with it. Just such a good light. And that's a close as close as this movie comes to like a not pithy but just sort of a because he plays it so straight you know are a lot of times if this would have been a movie with arnold schwarzenegger something as the retired. Old guy would have just been chock full of corny lines. But that's close. It comes and i thought it was a good line. Yeah and it's sort of a metal line right. 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How beautiful of film says those gorgeous shots at dusk and dawn The the silhouette of hian Ned when the writing those horses at sunset is just it pulls out all the stops of kind of the beautiful old western Like that's what you wanna see when you see a movie like this if you wanna see orces silhouetted against a red setting sun shoutout to a t. The dp was jack greene who I looked him up. He's dp a lot of eastwood stuff especially his stuff in the nineties. But yeah beautiful film. On i love the opening and closing shots of the sunsetting with the tree in eastwood at the the grave of his wife. Yeah it's a very sort of classical looking frame like something you'd see in a movie from the fifties or something and I had to look it up. I they shot it mostly in alberta canada which is a lot of westerns or shot. Like days of heaven was shot. There i think. Oh yeah excuse lanes become planes I will say that a night of fun tidbit is that they say william money lives in in. It's mentioned he lives in hodgman county. Kansas is literally two counties away. From where i grew no way. Yeah yeah it's a real county Just a fun. Little thing but yeah. They didn't shoot it in kansas. As far as i can tell you think they came all the way from kansas. Just to fuck us as a great line It was a little like disconcerting and really hammers home like how sexual assault has sometimes not even changed that much like the the excuse. That sheriff bill uses after the assault is like these are pretty good guys like you know. What good is it gonna do to go after them then in ruin their lives and heard that just like god you hear that same shit today when it's like a you know that i can't remember was the duke Student from the from the good family behind the dumpster and you hear that. Same thing trotted out like well. Why ruin his life now for this one mistake and it's just so maddening it's crazy 'cause like you expect to hear an align like that echoed in a movie that's coming out maybe in two thousand twenty one year it's like hitting the pulse of what's you know current in the culture And yet to hear it in a movie from nineteen ninety two which is you and it's basically a word for word of what like you said these lines. That get trotted out In cases today it's a very smart Violets david webb peoples who bladerunner in yemen. The role of the women in. This film is really fascinating. I think you know because after after the cutting happens at the beginning of the film they first of all say little bill. You're only going to whip them. Yeah and then once they agree to to bring the ponies. He's like oh we don't even need to whip him. Yeah and like you said they're good boys you don't want to ruin their lives and the fact that During that scene skinny the bartenders says oh. I've got a contract here. These women are property. there are an investment of capital. You know all the men here see them. As less than human is the equivalent of horses right and the fact that the women really have no recourse through quote unquote legal means. Yeah is ultimately why they turn to pooling their money and trying to get somebody to come and and kill these guys. Yeah like all the money they have. It feels like and you know they a do love it. They gave them some agency. There is a you know very brief albeit feminist message in this in that they're not gonna take it anymore like this was one step too far and they're not gonna sit down and and take this lightly And let these guys go like you know at any point. They could have called this off because things really go sideways you know. Once bill learns that they have put out money to to get some assassins in there and They're they're they stick to their guns. I'm what i really would have liked to seen. Was one of them ended up sort of doing one of the killings themselves. I think that would have I would have liked to have seen that but That wasn't this movie. Yeah and by the end of it though you know at the very end once once eastwood's kind of killed all these guys and starts to leave town you see all the women watching him right away and they all kind of have this look of like shit. Was this really worth it. Even know justice was achieved Like look at the violence that was perpetuated. And i don't know if you saw it this way but the the woman. Who has the the assault committed against her. I think her. Name's delilah She there's a shot of her at the very end when eastwood's writing away and she almost has this like smile on her face like she's very haunting because it's like i don't quite know what to make of it. They got justice she and she's the one who's almost seemed the most ambiguous about whether she actually wants or not. Yeah you know. Even though she's the one who had done to her yeah. It's all the other women who say okay. We need to. We need to have these guys killed. Yes she's silent for most of the moving always kind wonder what she's thinking right yeah francis fischer really leads the charge as the eldest yeah and rightfully so like you said but it does kind of call into question. The idea. Just of like violence begetting violence. You know what i mean. Yeah and bill even has that one line like you know. I haven't seen enough killing for one day and it's interesting. 'cause that's the line i mean. I think that shows the depth of this movie and that it's not so clear cut because that message is one. The good guy should say like this. It's enough killing and this is coming from the status of the movie. You know who clearly delights and like humiliating and beating up these other guys just to sort of fill his own ego Because he can't build a house right. A lot of this movie seems to stem from like the fragility of the male ego total. Yeah i mean even the fact that what leads to the sexual assault is the prostitute laughing because the guy had a small penis. Yes yeah totally. I forgot about that line. That's key said. He had a small pecker and she giggled or something. Yeah yeah yeah looked down and saw small pecker and started giggling. That's what started this whole thing. Yeah that's very key piece of information actually Clint eastwood has the the number one best face in movie history. I think This clint i call it medium. Clint i thought it was super old. Clint but who knew that you know he is going to keep doing this into his nineties. But i really loved this version of client. This medium old clint when he's I went to look up. How old he was which i do a lot now. And it's always a little bit unnerving when she turned fifty real like oh shit they were like a me and was looking up. I was like oh my god. Please tell me. Clint eastwood wasn't like fifty three. He was in his sixties. He was sixty two or sixty three when he made it. Thank god But i love that era of clint to play a character like this in sort of like in grande torino. Now he's he's clearly working out his own mortality and leaving these sort of statement films behind him Like i guess. Stallone kennedy did it to with the the iraqis the final rambos. Even though her that rainbow movie was terrible Like their legacy is sort of. They're controlling their own legacy and what they leave behind. I think with movies like this. I read somewhere that So i first of all. I read that the concept for the movie started sometime in the nineteen seventies. Yes from a book. I think right. Maybe i don't know it could be. Yeah but i guess. Eastwood came across the script sometime in the eighties but apparently he didn't wanna do it right away until he felt like he had aged enough to play the part. Yeah which is funny because like this movie comes out. I'm sure a lot of people thinking. Oh this is his swansong. And that's what. I thought thirty years later about out one a year. It's really remarkable. But i i do really want to talk a little bit about this idea of eastwood as as actor but as also as icon. Because i feel like any time eastwood is a movie. He's not just playing the character but he's bringing his whole history of characters. He's played in the past right absolutely and so clint eastwood like some is. Somebody is a lot like somebody. Like john wayne. Who like. they're always linked to their characters in the westerns right. Yeah and clint. You think of that. You know the the man with no name. The guy who comes into town sets things right and leaves on a horse. Yeah and i think here he does. He technically does do all those things. But it's a movie where he interrogates his own. Like you said it's sort of a self inquiry and interrogating his own persona as that icon. Yup and what it means to sort of have been like the quote unquote bad ass guy. Who goes and just kills a bunch of people but now we're seeing again. The exact same things happening sort of on paper And yet my reaction to it is very different. It's not one of like raw raw cheering him on. It's like kind of being horrified and chilling you know and i think Nothing there's no. There's no more chilling shot in the movie for me is when he leaves the saloon. And there's like a low shot looking up to him and there's american flag draped in the background. And the rain's falling any says like or i'll come back here and kill every one of you sons of bitches and then your wives and they'll burn your house down. Yeah the first of all the fact that the american flag is behind it. It's like linking the idea of violence in american history with sort of the myth of the west. You know and to me. Like i don't know how other people read it but to me i find it like very chilling and not necessarily like. Oh this is awesome. Bad guy. Taking him out again. Clint got clint. Got it on over again. You know it's sort of an anti-violence anti-gun movie it's weird. Yeah it's i mean he's he's really making a big statement about like you said i mean not even within the context of this film but his whole career and i don't think i would go so far as to say it serves as an apology for serving up all these movies i think it's just more of a reexamination of of the stuff. And what does it mean to to have this kind of violence in movies and then in a characters life on screen Really pretty heady stuff you know like it's there's a lot more going on for for such a simple story than meets the eye. Yeah one hundred percent and and like you said yeah. I would agree. I wouldn't say apology. But it's yeah reexamination. And an inquiry into his own role in sort of Creating that icon and asking what. What does it mean. What is this leaving behind. you know. yeah he definitely did not do anything to glorify any of this or to make him seem like this Great character like he made. He takes great pains to to make sure. This character isn't put on any pedestal. even with i mean i guess the one scene where it shows him the most sympathetic is when he's having that really sweet talk with the the woman who was assaulted and she offers him the freebie and he says no and then feels bad because she takes it as like you know. She's now because her face was cut up and it was just such a sweet scenes like you know. If i was to wanna freebie i guess it would be with you because you're beautiful in. We both have scars and that line. We both have scars was like just just fantastic. I love that scene like you said it's so tender and yet it's before the information has been revealed that clint eastwood who's killed women and children totally and so again. It's it's such a smart subtle script in the way it sort of reverses our expectations. I guess you know because he is capable tenderness and he is somebody who apparently when he got married in quote unquote settled down. He didn't pick up a gun for a decade and his wife. He says cured him of drink and wickedness. Yeah and the movie. Maybe the movie is saying like what really takes a good woman to to sort of stem the tide of violence or something. I don't know yeah and you know we even see it with ned. I mean the whole Message of this movie is just all over the place. Because ned can't kill that guy and net is a great shot and can't bring himself to kill this guy who was laying there sort of helpless under his horse and the i think that scene is the peak of annoyance from the scofield. Good when you know. You can't see what's going on. She's like to kill him. Did you kill him. March killing him. Aren't you shooting and what's going on. What's he doing. Why aren't you going to kill him. didn't you him. And i was just. I wanted somebody. Just say shut the fuck up for a second like you have no idea what you're talking about right. Now get the annoyance of the scofield kid. Juxtapose against sort of morgan freeman face. Were without almost saying anything. Yeah you see him sort of working through like oh god. I can't do this anymore. yes i'm not. The face acting in. That scene is just phenomenal. Yeah it's so good and also. I love that scene. We're talking about sort of the idea of of movies. Glorifying violence you know this. This is where they're killing the first guy who sort of the the accomplice to the crime right. Not the super league here. Yeah who in my mind like. I'm not saying he's a good guy but he's far less you know. He's far less deserving of death in my opinion than the guy who actually did the crime right and yet when they kill him. It's another it's another one of those scenes where you're kind of like you expect to get some sort of satisfactory killing yet. What happens is they kind of. He falls on his horse. And then it's this long agonizing seen of him trying to call crawl to safety and they finally shoot him in the gut and then he takes like five more minutes to die and it's like unglamorous and just really kind of pitiful it actually bizarrely reminded me of. Do you remember that scene. In austin powers the first one i swear. I'm going with this. Where welfare character. Get these dead yet. Yeah he pushes the button and gets like attacked or fed to the sharks or something and then you think he's dead and you keep hearing go. Oh i'm badly burned but not dead yet. Yeah it's kind of like the drama version of that where it sort of plays up the idea of like movie killings and violence in films. And it's like this doesn't play out like that in real life. Yeah it's interesting. I'm going back to that question. You asked earlier about how i felt at the end there. There really isn't a satisfying death in this movie They really take all that away from the viewer. And i guess bill came as close as possible because he was a truly evil guy and when he died at the end i was kind of like. Yeah like you deserve this. But that's kind of it like even even when they kill the guy out house the really bad guy who did the assault like you want to see him dead but they don't let you sit there and enjoy that as you. Are you know because the kid is immediately horrified with what he had done in and clinton so cool about it all. He doesn't like he didn't play into any of this kid's bravado or even even give him a lot of like he doesn't lauded him at all for what he'd done like good job or anything like something simple as at. He doesn't even really do again. This killing of the guy who if anybody does deserve it it's him. Yeah and it's it's literally he sitting on the toilet like the most vulnerable position. A man can begin to speak. And he's like terrified when scofield kids got the gun on him. I think he says please. Don't yeah. yeah and it's not satisfying because you can see the scofield kid. Just lake taking everything he has to pull that trigger and then immediately afterwards when they're talking about it by the tree. I think the scofield kid says something like he went for his gun but i got him i yeah and you can already see him sort of changing the fax to build his own myth when we see the scene as far as you can tell. The guy wasn't going for his gun. I think had his hands up. I think it was hanging on the door. Even i don't think he could get to it even. Yeah it's just no satisfying deaths in this movie. Really gene hackman a little bit. It's interesting you say that. Because like i agree with you on how i view his character as like the sadist. Who's clearly like drunk with power over these people. Yeah and yet to me. I still find eastwood's character. The most chilling the end by the end. You know. I just think it goes to show how there are no clear. Cut answers in this film and how different folks can sort of see different things in it. You know yeah. And and bill is I thought it was interesting that he didn't allow the retribution against the cowboys for what they had done like from the very beginning he steps in almost like a peacemaker again. He says there's been enough bloodshed Really intent on not allowing this to take place. And i guess it's a power move as only thing i could figure out because it seems like the old west i for an eye. He would have let that happen. Let it die with these two cowboys getting killed. There ended up being way. More people killed in that because he didn't allow it. And then you know taking everyone's guns when they came into town like that doesn't happen in westerns either. So this this movie just it's It i don't know about mixed messages but it's sort of anti-western in some ways to as much as it is a western yeah or or Revisionist western you know But i think that that scene at the beginning where he talks about where you mentioned. You know Settling the peace. Like i think it's also because again little bill doesn't see the prostitutes as equal to the men emitted this crime. Yeah he acquaints them with again property much like the horses so in his mind. He's made a square deal. You know trade a couple of horses for taking away the skinny. He's chance to make more money right. Yeah i didn't think he was going kill. Skinny forgot that when i was watching it this morning And i was a little surprise when he killed skinny but he he went. You know he broke bad. He went right back to the old guy as soon as he. You know everything's turned in. You know in that that great setup for the third act as soon as that The woman tells him that ned was dead. He's like no no now. Ned went south. She's like now. He's dead the p. Beat him to death and he's displayed outside of greeley's and you just see that switch get flicked in. Clint starts drinking again. And you know it's just gonna be bloodshed from their own out and it's so complicated because ned is in air quotes. I'm using this innocent. Yeah in the sense that he didn't kill any of the folks he was arrested for. It was done by money and go field kid so he sorta like eastwood in. A sense is justified to come. Take revenge on that and yet there's nothing satisfying about it. Yeah the of shaving and gillette labs are proud to partner with iheartradio in supporting. Can't cancel pride and the lgbtq plus community. There are also proud to support. 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But i do think it's very consciously through its imagery evoking racial issues and i think the obvious one is when you see ned getting whipped by gene hackman. Yeah it like immediately makes you think of like lynchings. Yeah and the fact that the black man is wiped for something he didn't do. And then he's he's proudly displayed the way like a lynching hang somebody right and then show it off you know and again the film never really mentioned it in its script but it's very much they're totally on. Obviously ned was a killer in his past. Just like eastwood was yeah. But he's retired to you know he's retired too and as far as the characters in this in this town. No they re probably don't know anything about that. You know right and so in that sense. He is sort of an innocent wrongly killed. Yeah absolutely You know. I mentioned earlier about clint. There were so many opportunities. I think for him to have these tough guidelines that like arnold would have and he he never does it and i started to think that. That's that's sort of. Clint eastwood period. Like he's an actor who has built a career out of Not a lot of dialogue. I bet if you like had some algorithm that ran like total total words spoken by major actors. He would be at the at the bottom of the list of few as words spoken and just sort of one of the hallmarks of him as an actor. I think is. I can't think of many movies where he's had a a monologue. You know even like it's always the sort of clipped lines and clipped answers. He says so much with that. Fucking face of his and The one at the end where he says you know. I'll see you in hell. You know that. I mentioned earlier from hackman and he just goes. Yeah that's it. Like any other movie they would write some super cool thing or something tough or a great comeback or whatever and you just you don't need that stuff he'd strip all that away i really love it. That's how how expressive his face and yet it's it's it's a face. That's not really expressive at all in the traditional sense right. This is larry stoic. Yeah yeah but it also. I think it's you know it's the baggage he carries as sort of that icon of of western masculinity. Like every line or line he doesn't say is imbued with all the movies he's been in before it's it's imbued. With the go ahead make my day is imbued with all the sort of classic one liners. He said in films of the past. Yeah he did have some pretty great. One liners back then but they were still pretty short but Pretty sure yeah i know. Yeah i. I don't think that our boss will mind if i tell the story but our boss connell That everyone's probably heard us mention. He's the one that founded and started you show and all of the shows many many years ago and now he's our boss again at iheart. Great guy good friend. He is good friends with bradley. Cooper and i've mentioned that on the show and he told me a story like a couple years ago about A barbecue at the house. Clint eastwood was renting. They were shooting What movie would it have been. They were shooting something here in atlanta. They shot a Was it the mule or a. Maybe it was part. Yeah bradley cooper was in that right. Yeah yeah okay. They shot at in atlanta shooting. The you'll here. And he had a little you know they. A lot of the actors have rented houses here in atlanta when they were in. Clint had one rented and had a afternoon barbecue on like a sunday and Breath invited connell to common his family so connell their barbecuing with clint eastwood and bradley. Cooper and kristen ski and emily blunt or their kids and Couple of other actors the other guy from the meal that i love so much can ever think of his name and He said managed crazy in the and he's been to stuff like this before now through bradley But he's still he's like you know you still don't get used to it. And he said. I look over at one point and and eighty eight year old or eighty seven year old. Clint eastwood at the time is just standing there. Having a conversation with connel's like six year old daughter. And it's the cutest thing in the world and i'm just like this is nuts man that like you get to peek in on these scenes like that And he was really good guy and you know. I'm sure you've heard the legend of his movie sets and what they're like to work on But for the benefit of the listener. Clint eastwood movie sets are very calm. Very meticulously planned out. So there's no drama He doesn't i think all the walkies either to be offered turn really low. No-one's yelling and screaming and no one's rushing. He'd he's just legendarily known for for running a really friendly com Set where you work at like you know eight or nine hours and get it done quickly and efficiently and just kind of move on with your life and that kind of says it all. I think about the guy and he's also known for not doing a lot of takes. Yeah he'll knock a shot out two or three takes and say okay. We got it. Sure he stretching thirty nine movies like you don't want to and he said like part of that comes from his experiences as an actor the things he learned like okay. I like being directed this way. I don't like being directed this way right. And that's fascinating to me as as also somebody who directs and has directed like i would love the idea to be able to knock out a scene or a shot and just two or three takes i. I would love to do that but it's so hard to do that. You know because of a lot of confidence in what you're doing you know in that comes with doing it a lot. So i wouldn't feel too bad. i know. But but and the fact that he'd get such great performances whether he is the one acting or bradley cooper or Paul walter houser in richard jewel or just these wonderful performances. And i'm like how do you do. And he's yeah he's known for notting ought to takes like a normal ish work hours and usually finishing film on time and under budget. Yes i mean. I know he's gotten Like the lifetime achievement award is director and stuff like that now But i i just think a lot of years he just everyone sort of thought of thought of him as an actor and i think maybe some people maybe not didn't even realize he directed play misty for me and outlaw josey wales and Just some of his like all time classics. He was behind the camera for those movies. Kind of quietly behind the camera. He's not a a chest thumper when it comes to pumping himself up in his movies or you know in the press after. He's made his movies. So i have a ton of respect for the guy A wish he was one of these great old grizzled liberal democrats old hippie. There'd be no. I think part of that is why i think his movies. Continue to fascinate me because yeah to see somebody who has almost polar opposite politics as myself. Yeah to find things to really love and admire in somebody who inherently sort of had disagrees with me probably on a lot of fundamental things. I think shows a lot of maturity as a as a director as an actor question the traditional you know conservative pillars of what conservativism stands for yet. He's not. I don't feel like he has an agenda filmmaker. And that kind of sums it up best you know he Because he very much good in any time someone is so upfront about their politics and and held public office. For god's sake he was the mayor of karma latte to see mayor colonel. Yeah carmelo's lovely. It's lovely area there. I'll have to check it out I love the the couple of bits of humor. There's two running jokes in this movie. Which kinda find in it pretty bleak movie is Him in that horse trying to get on the horse was kind of fun and then gene and bills Poor carpentry they get a few good chuckles. Out of that That stuff as well. Oh and also the duck of death. Yeah that's right that's right. There are three jokes that they played in this movie is he did that. One a couple of times but just so low five very little fanfare almost like a trope of apply it. You know grizzled veterans. Come out of retirement to do one last job. It's like the ocean's eleven the anti ocean's eleven you know. Yeah but he just he gets away with it without feeling like a trope. Because it's just there's more subtexts than there's more under the surface and the pacing of it so languid and just really lets you as a viewer. He feel like he always sort of gives a lot of credit to the viewers to make up their own mind about stuff he doesn't have. He's not oliver stone. Hammering europe the head with like you should feel this way about this young man. Just a very conscientious filmmaker. Yeah i think you know when you said he. He's not show you about his politics or like at least in films like what he believes. I think he's just very much like a humanist in the sense of like he rarely despite showing terrible characters sometimes he rarely will outwardly judge a character his films and how often do show what they did and maybe show how they view themselves in the world. Yes i think. If you ask lenny would he. He was well known for playing vigilantes. Whether they're out west or dirty. Harry style guys and i think he probably became a champion of some of these know. Sort of gun toting guy with a gun out on the street dudes. I don't think clinton would endorse that in real life. Even though he is. You know a strong conservative. I don't think. I don't think he really thinks people should go out and take the law into their own hands and do that stuff. He's not beating his chest about vigilantism. You know even though we play those roles. Maybe i'm wrong. But i don't see him as that guy. No man just to see him sort of question. That violence in films. Like unforgiven yeah. Nfl like some people might disagree with me. But i think american sniper also questions that violence. Yeah now some people. I i know. A lot of people are divided on that film. But i think it'd actually does question sort of that idea of that Violence wrapped up in sort of american culture. Yeah i mean now the think of it. There's a lot of ambiguity of feeling and a lot of his films. I think And that's to me the market. There really confident filmmaker. Is i feel like so many times. Filmmaker has a point of view. They really want to get across and try so hard to make it super clear and feel like he's he's more comfortable waiting into ambiguous waters. Which is what you do when you're in your eighties and nineties directed thirty nine movies. There's someone who said some. I think director somebody famous ages ago said like the more something along the lines of the more important of a theme or a point. You wanna make a movie. The less obvious. It should be should have an inverse correlation where the the more important the theme the more hidden. It should be so then. Eastward is a great example of that hopefully man. That's a good if anyone trying to write stuff that's a very good lesson Because i think the instinct is to is to want people to see things like you see things as writer filmmaker. Whether it's you should fall in love with this person or you should want to kill this person. Yeah it's really hard to sort of do a convincing ambiguity convincing ambivalence where it's not telling the viewer how they should feel or think. Yeah good stuff Well my docket is empty. Do you have anything any other notes. You wanna hit Let me see here. I think that about does it for me. Great movie gray movie. I actually eastwood's Birthday was just a couple of weeks ago. Ninety one i think he's the i just turned ninety one and there was some twitter twitter thing going around where it was like hashtag. Four favourite eastwood's or some so people are posting their four favorite. Clint eastwood movies. Yeah so there's a lot. I've seen of his. There's a lot. I haven't seen of his. He's made a ton of. He's i know but as of now my four favorites are this Bridges of madison county movie j. Edgar i never saw that. It's good leah. Leonardo di caprio great and other one where it's about like j. edgar this like very complicated man totally and it's another sort of ambiguous film and then A movie called white hunter black heart. Yeah yeah yeah. That was great again. I just watched. That's another one. I just watch for the first time a few weeks ago and just loved it. And i'm like excited to just keep going through his filmography because there's like probably twenty. I still haven't seen yeah boy. I don't know if i could. That would be very hard for me. Because i grew up with those dirty harry movies in a love. The shit out of him Pale rider is awesome. Play misty for me is great. I haven't seen those so that i got something to look forward to. Have you seen million dollar baby. Yes i have gray movie okay. That's a tear jerker spoilers. That movie jerk the rug out from under me did not see that. Awesome man the so good to see you again and get you back in here Maybe we should start doing a. I don't know about a full eastwood series. But i became for doing another one hundred percent. Man i'm so glad we got to talk about today and i would be more than happy to talk about another film him. Yeah he's one of those where when he passes. I will put him in the category of like the willie nelson's in these icons of culture that Kept doing great things you know. An inspiring people do great things. Because i think there's so much ageism in in culture and music and Entertainment that like love seeing these holds up. They're still killing it. It's great yeah man and the fact that like i think you mentioned. He's he got a lifetime. Achievement award at the oscars. I wanna say he got that in like the nineties. Probably give them another one. Give him another one. Because that's all life twenty twenty-five years later and he's still out there killing it man as clint all right. Good stuff paul and thanks everyone for listening. Go checkout unforgiving. 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083 Western Retirement

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083 Western Retirement

"The ME and Jerry have been spending. The last half an hour talking deeply about things that we will never recall politics. About Parole Scher farming farming police, all kinds of things, and you're not going to hear about medium in marketing. Guess what? And guess what that's not this podcast. We don't talk about any of that so therefore. We didn't record it if you want us to talk about that, I guess you need a lot of snow, but I don't think anybody does, and even if you want us to. I don't know if it's in your best interest psychological. I don't think you want to hear US talk about the first of all because I am so. Communist that you will get. Like really you might run for office some day and regret me, and you just said that the Red Hammer. I'm not going to run for office. Know why can't. You could no I cannot as as a federal employee. You can retire well. Yeah, if I retire. Yes, but I won't retire you as a government worker, he retired at what forty years old. No I can retire at fifty seven years old and six months. That's insane to me. I don't this whole retirement thing it blows my mind and I won't be able to my family. We're anybody works an outside job. No I don't sleazy farmer. Ever had an outside job really to speak of so this whole notion that of people retiring like fifty fifty five years old and older than that, but there are a lot of people that can retire like five. Yeah, it's mind blowing to me. That seem so young. fifty-five seems like a child still yeah, but most like you're just getting off of a bicycle, absolutely basical almost avenue Ringo. person that does that gets another job. Yeah, another career. Raider at Walmart I know but like your daily life of waking up and like doing whatever you need to do is what they then do. For in retirement, I just think it's crazy because I mean most. Of Retirement is what I'm saying. Most people obviously retire at like sixty five. You know your average Joe. It's pretty much gotta get into government or unions to get those early retirement times, so the government is not that way well you need to. Retire Young. You need to get into Caterpillar in the nineties. or Yeah like teachers can retain the government. That's a state the government. The state is not federal. There's a difference gets government. Yes, it is, but you have to make you have to make like the. What am I trying to say like the difference like the difference there has to be said because state government and federal government are very different things when it comes to working payments retirement like all of that is very different. Teachers always like awesome because. Late retires, and they're like a big uproar teacher retirement they retire with like their full salary from like an average of their last five years teaching I believe are some some portion of that, and then which so it's big because you're your your career. Yeah, and then you retire with that like in perpetuity, but it also increases by three percent cost of living every year, and you're not taxed on it. What? I mean my I'm not I'm not bemoaning any teachers, here. Eight. That's why the states broken. I understand that yes. I mean that's incredible for them. Yeah, but it's incredible for, but isn't it different now like it's not that way now? Way I'm pretty sure really reformed it a little bit, but generally it's that process. It's specially rocks. If you are hearing in a school district that pays big money which lots of school districts don't pay being money isn't necessarily like downstate. If all you live next to a power plant nuclear power plant. which we happen to have like nine of them around, but you know teachers. It's job I. WanNa do I. Can't God Love Them? What's crazy to me? Is the administrators. They had a thing like administrators get. A donkey load of money. There was a thick. She's a lot because donkeys can hold a lot of weight. Yeah, there is a thing that I was reading. That was talking about the top. Fifty pensions for school administrators like that are on the books right now. My God like principles that are like seventy years old that have been retired for like twenty years that are still pulling on like five hundred grand a year. What Hell Z.! How is that possible? Because a man school district school boards yeah. Corrupt Lot a lot of people that run for local government is not what you know to you. Know might not be the best. A lot of people, no government at all like politicians. Oh, it's all corrupt. They're they're awful. It's all corrupt, so we've bled into what we don't want to talk about now. We're just talking about school. Talking about schools man. It's a hot topic, so we should probably avoid it. You think so yeah, Okay, let's get back to retirement. Let's talk real hot topics the store where you can buy all kinds of. Clothing with slogans on them with like punk bands. Let's store hot topic. Store at I get it. Good joke when I was young topics. Or Honk stuff, but now it's like nerd stuff. It's weird made it is it made a weird chain I thought it was like? Heavy metal. It was when we were kids. It was like punk metal. Core bans. Yeah, and now it's like nerd stuff. You don't want speaking of like blending nerd and metal I'm wearing a shirt that was given to me. By A. Johnson farms. Johnson trucking. Patriot, he is actually. Of The podcast and we haven't done that for him in a while known but If you need something trucked in need, it hauled heavy loads. Or. If you want to be a truck driver, he is looking for an active truck driver right now. They don't get a higher starting. Wait Hall dollars our. You're going to get sixty five dollars an hour. A hundred percent insurance paid four, zero deductible, zero deductible. He'll pay all of that you. Your kids will be paid for college and their grade schools along with daycare, and you get that teacher pension jobber. He Yup, the here. The teacher pension along with caterpillars pension in the ninety. and he will. Be A godparent. We and weekly pedicures, but the kind with the fish that eat the dead skin off your feet. That's part of the job. What is that are in the truck? Oh. They got these pedicures. Where you put your your merger feet and water, and they have all these little fish in there, and they eat all the dead skin off your feet. Really Yeah, you've had your. Your nipples eaten off by fish I have. Not like off, but they're gone. They don't exist anymore. Real Louisville's Gills. Who Watch out for a arm fish lighten biton sunfish. I'm efforts. Yeah Anyway so he gave me the shirt Sean. Did and it is a blend of Metallica, my favorite band. Of all time forever don't care what you think or what anybody else thinks. That's a terrible choice, but go and star wars because a Yoda, so there is so metallic. Ask this. Record called master puppets. Back from the eighties eighty eight. Or Eighty six and It was the Scott. It was just hands over top of graveyard that looked like a marionette right like they were moving strings a puppet master if you will in all the strings. And Yoda is that puppet master above the Graveyard? Pulling the strings, and it is a perfect blend of what I love on a t-shirt. Yeah and appreciate it. I think it's phenomenal a long way to go. Along that description? Yeah, Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's what it is. You Watch the Youtube and you can see it in Marine Johnson trucking. The Hall Your House. The hall your home. And now And now what? Are you playing? There was talking about I know. There was something that I wanna get into, too. Was that Oh, well? We can do a little quick segment because last week I know or maybe it was two weeks ago. We were talking about our t shirt manufacturer another sponsored the podcast third poly De Designing Apparel Morsel Annoy Paul Waters. Is The guy polly w? If you need his contact, info hit us up and we will shoot over his wife. You need t shirts made cousy. He's he can do screen printing. You can do embroidery. He can do everything. Literally embroidered! Embroider your face, embroider you. A tent that you can live in. I KINDA WANNA ten him, embroidered and Chas. nope not. Going there. Anyway, he was talking about how he has themed posters member of selling you in his. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we're GONNA. Do a little segment called policy posters Paul's posters. He texted me today to give me the update on his new posters. Remember I was telling me he was working on a comic book. Theme One. Not any changes the theme like every month or is sat me a picture of his original swamping poster and will show to after he. Did you know you could like set up to where you throw it up on a video? I should have, but I didn't do that. All right, so that one he's doing with the Batman. He's got Batman and Batman returns, and he was trying to come up with some other comic book movies I. Know He's got some superman ones. Anyway. That's not what he's doing next. Okay, the one that he's doing right now is draws thing so in God's house. She's got some jaws movies, and then he had asked me, he said I need boom. He said I need some more posters. Round on my jaws theme. And the options he gave me. We're back to the future because eighties, even though the body. Even, though the original jobs is in the seventies. Or Jurassic, Park. I love back to the future so much. Amy's never seen it and it just fury to me that she won't watch it. But you have a theme, but I really like Jurassic, Park, only go a drastic park because the theme that is blockbuster monster movies yeah, like monsters, but yeah. I get it I agree I mean Jurassic Park Way to go. Yeah, it really is next month. His themes sesame. He's doing western drastic park. Back to the future there was a western Ooh. That's true that could be part of his western. The yeah, he. He didn't ask me. I don't know who's got for Westerns I just Don Wayne. Clint Eastwood. I just told other people. that. Sorry, one of my favorite Westerns is true grit. Love it. Have you ever Seen Rooster Cogburn? Yes. But that's also that also part of true like that came first okay. Actually. My I prefer the Coen. Brothers True Grit. Original. Sorry. Just do. That's that's the thing that's Fine I. Love It. I love it as well. I I agree with you that is that's like a very good movie. that has came out recently I. Just Really Love John McCain. My Dad always watch John Wayne growing up like it's his favorite of all time. And I was forced to watch it and I fell in love with all of those. Wasn't the cowboys shades of you? Will Jima Sands of? Like the longest day. Let's see Geez. Chisholm Shane. And Shane Oh Shane as like one of his favorite for Yeah Shane, and then, but the cowboys man. The cowboys got me he. Think! He was rooster, Cogburn and that one. I'm going to be completely honest with you. I haven't seen a lot of John. I've seen so many I've seen Shane I've seen the sands of you. Wood Jima. And I've seen the searchers. So I wasn't big into his like military movies. I was always a Western guy up, and I've seen a lot of talk. McClintock is like a funniest movie that he was in That's one of my favorites, and but the cowboys. He leads all of these kids like all these kids come to his farm, and they have to do a cattle drive, and he literally has a bunch of children with them to do this. Massive cattle drive into Texas, and it's. It's awesome I mean. There's one kid. The only kid that wears glasses ends up dying spoilers, and it's a big deal, and like he's super rough on the outside hates. These kids at the beginning is really tough on, but then obviously by the end it's more of a father figure where he's. Like starts to love these kids as his sons, it just awesome. Well. I have not seen a lot of John Wayne. Movies. I've seen a of Clint Eastwood movies. If we're talking about Western yeah. You got to pick a favorite western. I gotta go city slickers. The Guy! That's in city, slick slickers. What is that old dude? Man I don't remember. city slickers. I know he's does that. Does that thing Jack Talents Yeah? That'd really couldn't count as a Western, but no, it shouldn't, but I city slickers and city slickers two. I used to watch. All the time rented that from the market. Often. I like that was just about to say all the time, but felt like I was going to get called out by seething top. The quick and the dead. That's a good one good, the bad and the ugly. Get The by the outlaw Josey Wales. What is the one with Sam Elliott I love that movie they actually. Which one I mean he has. Quite a few, my thinking of the quick and the dead I must be. Yeah the quicken. That's the one I'm thinking of million law. That one yeah. I'll Josey Wales my favorite cleanse. Another quick and the dead on related with DiCaprio. They did they did not related same name, but had Leonardo di Caprio. It's not the same movie though Oh. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's a Sam Ramey movie and it's also a great movie, really yeah. I mean. Russell Crowe and Leonardo DiCaprio. Is that on par with the man in the iron mask. It's way better than that Oh. This one has story contributions by Joss Weeden. Article about him. All, right well, let's move onto that. That was just Paul's posters polls posters, so was he doing Jurassic Park? them traffic parking jaws. I told Okay I didn't know if that was like solidified. That I was actually going to do that I. believe so I'll I will get pictures for the so it's drastic park and jaws for this month Yes for this month for the month of July so he's out every month. He does change it every month. Yes, that's wild. It's amazing, so he's constantly buying posters, yes. Like all the time Z. Married yes. Boy. He's got a good wife he does. She's really cool. I've actually never met her. I mean I I agree. She's very cool because it's hard to have a hobby where you get to buy things that awesome. Yeah. You know what I mean like. I don't know. Most people are probably spent on comics and he spends on posters I bet. You think so. I've you have a problem? I don't get any more I'm done. I quit them because you never read them. You don't pay attention to them. I you'll. Collect. Do you even know what you got last month? I didn't get any last month with them. So you don't spend more in comics than he doesn't post, not any. But I spent a lot like at the. Cons Oh. Yeah, yeah, you did! I won't argue that that's the truth all right so on my new stories here that I have. Talking about Jazz Sweden so there was a little movie called. The injures Justice League. Yeah on the other side of. The page here, so ray Fisher was an actor in. CYBORG CYBORG. You're right. Know him well apparently. Not that I described who he was or who he played before the show started, but Yeah Ray Fisher played cyborg. He apparently came out so a originally he was on board with the Snyder cut deal. And he was all about it because he liked Zack Snyder and he liked that cut of the movie because he has a way bigger part. So great like I would assume you would be a fan of that cut because you do have a much bigger part. He came out though and made a statement about Jeff Sweden when he came on set. That is pretty unfavorable. Yeah, and he says that onset treatment of the cast and crew of Justice League was gross, abusive and unprofessional and completely unacceptable. He was enabled in many ways by Geoff. Johns and John Berg who would have to look up I think that's DC's president. but that's a pretty harsh statement. About what does that mean? he he said that the treatment of the cast and crew was terrible like he just Weeden came in and started fucking Elena law died. Like like media says. It didn't elaborate any more than that. Because that's the only quote that you put out, is that what is his qualification name? And a lot of people have harsh bosses correct, but when you say gross and abusive, that seems abusive Erin Gross and unprofessional. Right completely unacceptable so former warner. Brothers co-president John Berg tells variety. added. Gorky untrue that we enabled any unprofessional behaviour. I remember Fisher being upset that we wanted him to say. Boo, which is well known saying of sight Cyborg in the animated series sonic. Okay so this guy I don't know the facts here. No, but we're just reading and I'm not saying person the other. It's also possible that Ray is a Douche. Yes absolutely. It's very possible that this man is. A complete tool, but it's also possible that Josh. Weeden is to complete to D. I don't know who's right. He's been pretty successful in one of main Meyer okay. And the avengers and Buffy, the vampire slayer well, then other one is a guy. I've never heard. Harvey Weinstein made a lot of really good movies, too. That's a good point though. You're making again. Nobody's accusing him of sexual behavior, but when you say the words, gross and abusive. It sounds bad like real bad to where you're going to side with the whole like. Me To situation maybe like sexual harassment or just harassment. In general. You don't know I. Don't know if that's the case. I'm just speculating, but It sounded bad. He's the only one that's came forward and said anything like this. Nobody on the marvel side of things has ever said a bad word about just Sweden Liar fly has said anything bad about just weeden nobody from buffy. Said anything bad about just Weeden so I don't know. It could be true that he was just in a bad place when they put him on that movie. You don't maybe bad day. Maybe his wife Yeldham a lot and he came in, and he's like you know what I'm going to take it out on these month off. Yeah, I don't know man. I'd like to hear more about that or not, because it doesn't matter, really care. It doesn't matter. I don't know seems odd seems like an odd thing to say. It's not like came out and said he did anything like. Specific righteous like this. Man Torch my book. I don't know it's weird. We are now that could be gross and abusive. Well it doesn't matter because we're getting a new Justice League signer cut in twenty twenty one yawn. Hbo Hbo Max. That's the thing which he did. You notice that I've got this sweet goatee. I did now just now. Yeah, so sweet so I've had this really gross beard for awhile. It's not really a beard because my face doesn't fill in with facial hair whatsoever because I'm a small child, and but I've noticed recently now that my hair's falling out, my facial hair is growing quicker. a little bit thicker so yesterday so I told Keith Keith is a coach of. Our baseball and ultimate loser of SNARK madness, all ultimate loser, worst ever participant in SNARF madness history. Actually he's been significantly significantly worse than any other participant we've read. Anyway. He's got this really gross mustache. Just terrible looks disgusting I. Don't think it's that bad. phys makes me physically ill. Every time I see him I kinda like it. Good well I see it on them and I told him that I would. Like. You know what? You got some gross facial hair all-girl, some gross facial hair so I kept growing like my facial hair out, and then finally I trimmed my face, and I just left. The Goatee and Amy told me to burn it off. She's like burn. That offer looks fine, but a goatee in twenty twenty. It's not a good look. Oh, it's come! It's not coming back. I told it's getting like the. Like the aren thing for like white women. Yeah, the goat cheese getting that treat. So what should it be changed to then I mean? Girl Beer I can't grow beard. It's ashes better than the goatee thinks. Oh. Don't look good in a mustache coming back, let's all. Good. They're coming back in style. I. Don't know you don't want to do just the chin. That Oh, no, no, no! No. No I did that once I did do that once where it was just the Chin just do the full beard or moustache alone but I. don't think this looks terrible for what I was expecting it to look like I don't think it looks bad at all. He didn't even know that has not yet right he he has for long time since I was a freshman in high school. Yeah, there, go like twenty so for like twenty years. He said goatee forever. But. Are you getting up to a guy? That's had a goatee for twenty years a Lotta of style. No no, especially when he's sixty three years old. I'm not saying it's out of style. I'm saying it's getting. stigmatizes what? I don't know just see like memes of. You're saying this off of nothing. Yeah, it's memes on facebook. They're like. Has the sunglasses like on the hat? Yeah, I don't do that and the goatee and it says like. I'm not wearing a mask starter pack. Okay. I GET IT I! Get that I did wear masks today. I worry. Every story went and I wear masks so many people not wearing them. That's fine I like. It doesn't bother me. anonymity. Honestly I'm on the streets. People want autographs, and they need all right attention for right because of the show. We get attacked so much where they're like. Jerry! The pop around and yeah. It's much better with a mask on because they don't feel like i. have to interact with anyone. Is it odd to you that in this day and age? We're still using the word Papa Razzi above our There's no other name. No, I don't feel like that's weird by the name of them. It's like change the name of a fork. Why are we using Italian word? Is Italian. I would assume it sounds Italian. Eight get on your old thinking. Machine there and look it up. You know it's. It's just Perazzi. E, yeah, why don't why don't you put their word like Vo Year picture taker. Yeah. The picture dagger. I think that's what they are though right. I, guess! Public Picture taker tabloid journalist. All that sounds better. That's what most of them are, but they're freelance. All them Paparazzi sees are freelance people. Oh, it was actually never worked for anyone. They're always like hey i. got these weird pitcher actually nine off of a person. A news photographer named pop rot so. which was a character in the nineteen sixty film? La Dolce say Vida the direct. That movie. Is is what spawned the word Paparazzi. Based characters name from nineteen sixty film. That's interesting. fully took the name from an Italian dialect word that describes a particularly annoying noise that of a buzzing mosquito. Paparazzi so Paparazzi suggests to me a buzzing insect. darting stinging house, versions of the word's origin are sometimes contested. I've never ever thought of the Word Pot, slow or Paparazzi up lattes when a mosquito is around a mockup. That is two different ends, but but had a gene. No Margarita Pizza. That's from Italy right? Yes spelled differently. That's the way I was pronouncing okay. CARLITA anyway. Ancient speaking of Justice League. Hbo Max real quickly. Did you happen as a DC subscriber? Are you still of course? Did you get an email this week? I didn't pay attention. It is offering HBO Max. For Four, ninety nine a month through the DC APP. Just in tandem all right for the remainder of my DC subscription, which is a year. So I'll get four ninety nine a month Hbo Max on top of the subscription cost for DC which I already paid you. Oh, you paid for the year. Yeah, I would assume I. Sixty Bucks for the year I think I would have done that so I'm like sweet so obviously. They're offering a bundled package now. And I'm going to take into that. They should yeah because. Hbo Max I might freak in fire stick, but if it's coming with DC no. Get the APP. No well. You don't have the APP. It's like not available to now available in the APP store. There's something wrong with with that. It looks. It will be eventually because Amazon has HBO ON THEIR HBO. We talked about this. pissed can make any sense because they will not allow. Hbo Is not going to allow people to subscribe through Amazon Prime Channels. which is how I subscribed i. that's what I did like fifty percent of their subscribers through Amazon prime channels. They're not going to allow that not yet well. They have to make a deal they they will eventually uppity stupid like it's all about making an extra buck, even though you're gonNa make a JILLION dollars like you're gonNA. Make so much money and you know they're still getting. It's the same amount of money whether you do it through. Amazon Amazon so I'm assuming most of that money goes through to HBO. Absolutely like they have to probably pay Amazon a fee to have. GET LIKE A, but they're doing that anyways with their HBO now APP. They were doing that anyways. Yeah I don't know I think it has more to do with like a licensing deal or I don't know. Anyway I just thought that was. So if you have. You probably take advantage of that offer, and if you're already paying for both you should. Somehow figure out how to. Take advantage of it for sure. All right. Do you have any news I got a couple like interesting articles. We can talk about yeah. I've got so I. talked about the. Thing. That was some news. This really isn't news. It's more of a kind of an open question about a very popular game right now with people. It's called. Animal Crossing people of that game. What is this there there? So there are people are there are animals that live in your town that are probably their crossing a crossover in drags. Yes, back and forth. You GotTa make sure they don't get hit by trains. There are about there are specific. I don't WanNa say people, but there are specific animals that are named things that live in your town, and and some of these people are more valuable than others is what I'm finding out. That that's not a good I. showed rare I should say rarer like it's rare to have this specific animal named Max, let's say or like. Jill like it's rare to have a jill in your town. and that's. What that's all it is. Is that all it is I don't know. Do you know anything about All I know about animal crossing. Is I believe I thought it was a small child to Kim? I believe at one time like back in the day day I did play it briefly on. Nintendo Gamecube was my. My nephew had yes just screwing around. But yeah, it's like a sims at the time I. Don't know what it is now. Those a lot of people told me they really enjoy it. A lot of people that are in the game. It's blown up really big so when I when I first got my job with the corps of Engineers. Worked with a man named Kevin and Kevin was a forty six year old that lived with his mother. and. He played animal crossing all the time. I believe it was on a game cube. It was on like older platform because this would have been the original out for. Four in two thousand one. It was probably ten years ago at least that this guy was talking about playing and animal crossing and the only reason he played. It is because his oldest son Maverick. played it and then great name per person. Yeah, and so then he saw maverick playing it, and then he decided I'm going to play this so. He started playing it. He had like a game guide for animal crossing the You could buy those guides at. Game Stop and whatnot. He had one of those he was obsessed with it. At that time I had ever heard of it. It's kind of similar to your obsession with farming simulator. You don't want I can't argue that in animal crossing the player assumes the role of a human character who moves in a rural village, populated by anthropomorphic animals and lives there indefinitely game play his open ended. Players have no defined objectives, but instead are encouraged to spend their time in the village, performing any number of activities which include collecting items, planting plants and other items socializing with village residents. Animal Crossing Games are played. This is what people are crazy about. Animal. Crossing Games are played in real time. Using, the video game consoles internal clock and calendar, thus passage of time in the game world reflects that in reality as well as in the current season and time of day. Some invent game events at how these. Or the growth of a tree occur at certain times or require some duration of time to have passed, so it's like. It's like A. It's like a virtual world. You're living in and yeah, doing kinds of things. High level. In which the outcome of the game? Do, you think this is I. Guess Yes, absolutely, it is because that's what all games are like a form of escapism. Yes, sure, it's like a memo are massive multiplayer online like kind of like a world of warcraft type situation. Yeah, something where people can live multi player though. I believe is you can have it that way, but you could also have it. I think it is. Strictly that well I think you can have it like. Only, yourself with computer, generated collecting items a major fast game animals. Performig village gathering objects nearly all objects can be sold for bells the in game currency players collect objects to obtain more bells, which can be used to buy furniture and clothing purchase home expands invest in stocks and play Games. But there's also a very rare characters that don't always pop up and when you have sore you selling people that live in your town. I. Think you are I. think that's a thing. Like if you have a certain character that lives in your town, you can sell that character and make money off. Okay I think that's what I was like how it was explained to me. Well I don't know, but people are really into it. You know it's Kinda like the sounds like kind of like the Sims. Little Yup thing over their head that makes sense once you say that it makes me feel like to build virtual worlds and live in them. I know it's weird, isn't it? But that's I, mean it is. It isn't like it just. When you say it peep when you say the thing like people like to build virtual worlds and live in them like that sounds strange to me, but then once you're in that and you do it. It's really not that strange, and it's all relative right. Is it yeah? What is real. All right. What is the reality very maybe I'm a crossings the real world. Maybe we're the simulation. Baby Deep. Maybe it's all deep talk with Chris. Yeah Anyway, that was the only thing I know. I had this argument. Before about world of warcraft. They live in that. Everybody says like that's awful, but but if that's where there's socializing. But and that's where they're living their life in a social aspect, and they feel full and feel like you'll like they're living their fullest light web then it is real though if they're doing that in that world, they're using this currency. Their gauging with friends are going on quest so hats real okay, yeah, but socially that that could be considered real. But as a society, you're not doing anything there. Right so you're not like advancing anything in your society. You're not what you are in the society and the game in the game, but I'm talking about real life that Israel is that point. If you're living your life in that game that makes it real. No, because you. You still have a real life outside of that game. Do you absolutely have to? Does, people may think that the outside of that. No, no, no, no is just to support their life inside the game. Correct, so you have to do something to support that right, so you have to be something you have to do something, but that argument makes no sense because what you're lying sense to say that that the game itself is okay now. The game itself can be their life. They have to support that life. Somehow so how's that different than saying? With, your family is your, but you have to go to work. To support that life. Is. Being at work your life, or as you're using your family, your life and know where your life and your due to do that. Her life is encompassed by all of that. Well there you go. You just made the argument I know, but you can't do nothing on the other side of that light. You're saying that nothing is. Living is being in this game world, but if you're all lighting. Spent the game world. All of your socializing is done the game world and you're building something again world isn't that part of your life, but your life is. Is segmented rate like everybody has a social life. They have a work life. They have a family life according to your narrow definitions, yeah, I mean that's usually how it works. Most people have that like you have a social life. Right that you spend with certain people. Yeah, correct You have a work life that you spend with certain people. Right bright like we don't work together right most of the time. This isn't worked. This is play. This is more social. What's the point is what I'm saying like it. All of this is segmented out. So that is their social life in in that game like that game is their social life. If that's how they socialize with people, they don't do it in their normal day and age. Okay will their character works, but they're not physically working or making anything out of their life or money or supporting themselves, but you can make money in the game by by questing, and then selling items in the real world for real money. FOR REAL MONEY! You can do that absolutely. There are people that work in those games and support themselves doing that I didn't know selling things buying like building. They get real money. Yes, absolutely real like US dollars, yes, or or euros, yes, or marks francs. If you will. They do yeah. People Make Money Game I. Didn't know that okay well. If that's the case, then, yes, I saw. A real life that real life. Yeah, for those people I didn't know that I. I didn't know that was a thing. So. Yeah I agree with that. Would be okay. He didn't make any money off of that. And you didn't. Is Your perception chain? Does your perception chains if if they the game that you're inhabiting? If you WANNA, call it. That goes from being on a two-day, screen. To Three D virtual reality goggles, so you're actually more encompassing you're you're you have to change a little bit of your opinion? of It based on those things now. You don't I don't think it. It should change my opinion on whether it's like real. Here's my point. If we get to a point, which we will with virtual reality, yeah, where say instead of going physically to comecon we can put on glasses and go at ten Tamika virtually. Are you not really experiencing that? No, you are. You are really experiencing it, but you're not really experiencing it in the full capacity. Of like like. Are you going to be able to interact with everyone there? Yeah, yes, so you can interact with everybody there. Okay, then yeah, you are. GonNa have the interact your body assed. You believe you have to be in your physical body to know I was asking if you could have a physical interaction with Jerry, what is human consciousness I don't know it doesn't have to inhabit just by. I was asking the simple question of whether or not. You could have a simple convers conversation with an exhibitor. Let's say. Like if you can have the conversation with an exhibitor like we do or You know? How will you like? Throw stickers that people are going to be able to do that. Yeah! You can't be how the little robot rolling around. That's like your proxy. Here proxy, so you have to set up a no you'll. You'll rent them, but you have to set it up beforehand. They'll print automatically from the robot. This is ridiculous. No I. Don't think it'd be real like real enough if you can't have that interaction with people if if it's a simulation to where. They've got it advanced enough to where you can have like a one on one with a person, or have that direct contact of saying like man i. really like your stuff. Oh, man, awesome! Do you write to yeah, we right to? If you're going to have that dialogue there I think yes, it would. It would be real I. think it'd be. Go this here? Say they stop having physical compounds altogether. It's only virtual. So, everybody's an Avatar inside. Your thrown out some hard Sam. It's still reads real, though it's real I agree it is real, but can you follow them? You I mean because really honestly. If you're a religious person right so then there are going are you can still buy stuff just ship of you? Okay? If you're a religious person, you believe in the soul. And the soul does not need to be attached to the by yeah to live an experience reality. Correct correct right so these Avi that logic. You don't need to be attached to your physical body to be encompassing reality. That's true so if you're able to agree if you live in animal crossing, you are in reality. I'm thinking of our lives as A. like. Like a person that provides like give something back to society right, but what if you give? Say Year the best. I'm lived for making leather armor. And everybody wants your leather armor. In that game. Yes, but you're giving something to society. Then it's just your society. Definition of society is different. Their actual life Chris those are actual people behind those avatars. They are valued the service. You're providing so then when you close that computer or you stop playing that and you just lay in bed. What are you? What are you when you lay in bed, I? Am Jerry Snyder a very successful podcast? Why Anal- Balthasar? Lock lock master I literally am. A master. You can't I answer, but that's my title. For long it is. They just changed the name of the masters the PGA. Masters they did yeah I didn't know that they're going to be changing the name well I am at this point I still lock master I made. My I I take bastard craft is going to be changing their name. Really they're getting rid of everything with the word master masculine. Hard done all right well. My actual title on paper is lock and Dam repair leader. This isn't that terrible. Isn't that a master in that terrible all right, so a master of puppets is the next to go. Nope that's staying for eight will not stay. It's staying forever there. Demand can't change METALLICA. The main delorean Chris by the way real quickly to wrap up. Put a little bow on that. It's all relevant because we are already living in a simulation. It's all simulation. It has to be why statistics it's math. How does that make it a simulation? Well I'M GONNA. Tell you okay. Please I'm waiting and. All of the infinite future ahead of us or Is there listen okay I'm GONNA. Put it this way. I'm listening, but is there a possibility now, however slight. That we could be existing in simulation. I don't know. Is there I'm asking you I mean the probability. Even if it's ninety nine point, nine nine nine nine simulation of what. Like I. Don't even like you have to. Okay, so the idea who? Could, be us in the future. Is it. Okay, let's let's let's back up and talk about simulation, right? Why would you run simulations well? We run simulations all the time. It's it's. It's foreseeable that. Race of human beings. Could potentially run simulations to make decisions if they had the power to do those simulations quickly if they had to make a decision about acts, and they wanted to see the results, they could set up a simulation of human beings to go through this entire process and Blah Blah Blah. Blah Blah vis-a-vis they get the result, so if there's any percentage chance that we could possibly be living in a simulation, however slight which you have to admit there has to be. A chance. Be Zero than it means we are. Doesn't because if there's a chance that we are, that means at some point in the future. Given that we live in an infant universe, whether it's humans or something else we live in an infinite universe cracking, so if there's any chance that it's possible to even live in a simulation, then the chances are that were already living in it. Because, at some point in the future, if there's a chance that people could be living in a simulation that means at some point in the future in some infinite part or some part of this university living in then a simulations have already been started, and whether we believe that we're at the beginning in the simulation, or maybe maybe you think that hey, I don't know I, don't. Like that we're at one point in time before simulations start say a hundred years from now we're gonNA gain compat- capability to. Create simulations that are so real that you wouldn't know that you're living in it. Yeah, say I'd say thousand years from now say ten thousand years without doesn't matter. That chances that were not already in that simulation become very slight than. How. How does it become very slight it'd be. It would be because of infinite possibilities. I'd be nine percent that it couldn't be. No. I. Don't understand if if we live in an infinite universe. Essential to infinite. Then what are the odds in simulations can't exist. The odds are like no listen. Let me let me. Let Me Finish If we live in an infant. Universe an infinite and universal vast. that. Everything can and will be done. There will be identical version of thing here, talking to the same conversation, but we're both ducks, okay. So the probability of that, there is a slight probability of that happening right, so if it is there like we don't even know if there's other life. You got grasp but. Infinite means. I know, but that's all speculation, but. Let's put that aside if there's a chance that there will ever be anytime in the infinite history in any time. A SITUATION where? You. Some organ organism could create a simulation all right. then. The chance that we're at the one point in time before simulations have been is not one hundred percent. It's almost zero. That's what I'm saying. It's almost zero percent if that possibility exists all right. Anytime in the future. Zero that we would be at that point in time. No, no, you're got it backwards. If that possibly exists down the road, then they would create simulations for all types of things for everything. There'd be similarly. It's happening so what you're positing. Is that right here right now? This is the only time. that. Those simulations haven't been invented yet or that. The simulations haven't been run yet. What are the odds that we're just happened to be in the one time once? We're there wasn't simulations. So now you can see how you can flip those statistics. Because in. Point zero zero zero one percent chance that simulations will exist at some point. Let's give that. then. What are the chances given the fact that simulations exist. We're in the one time. But we're sandwiches. Are there for a reason so if it's like point zero zero zero one? No, no. About different things about the percentage. That simulations will exist. Okay, they do exist. Knowing that we know, we simulate things all the time on here on earth right. I'm talking about a simulation. That could be so real. That the beings within it could be in it and not know they're in it. All right. Yes so okay given the fact that we're agreeing. That, there is a good chance. There is a chance any chance, no matter how slight that will exist at some point. In the Infinite Universe, what is the? What are the odds that we just happened to be? The one time I feel like we are as euphoria. Let Way. It's very slim. I don't understand how anybody living in this simulation would feel that way. They would feel that it was you outside of the simulation Oh. Nobody is. But you're saying that it's guaranteed. I'm saying that if that is a possibility or that's going to happen. There that were airs only one. To the point, simulations start existing. What quote unquote what you call reality. There's only one path of that right. Right and then it branches at some point, we gain the capability of creating simulations, and then we start creating billions of simulations. So now the chance that we're in that one real track becomes one out of a billion. Okay I see. I see! Now I see what you mean. So? The chances of being in the real life are less than being in relation. I, probably because you gotta understand the whole thing with assimilationist, even creating a simulation is like creating billions of simulations, because in the simulation it crea- every thing that happens creates another simulation. Yes, because every decision that you make whether I, leave that door. That door in the simulation creates a second simulation. Right. Which is our life? Correct. That's why I'm saying. There's only one path to this relation. Yeah because I wanted to simulate. Like tonight I could choose to walk out that door instead of that door, but I can have the process in my head. To choose those, too. But it's different. Whatever door I walk out of correct, and that's the only path I'm on so therefore that one doesn't exist well. It does exist in an alternate dimension, but that's. Okay it does if I had walked through it in in all reality I should say yes, forthright, yes, but you understand my point. If we get to a point where simulations can't exist the chances of us, not already being become slim. I get it. Yeah, I get that. Okay. Man Lauren. F-! So the main delorean TV show? Obviously, they have a second season coming. They have decided to make that. Specific timeframe into a comic book. Oh Nice. Did you not know YEP? They just decided that WHO's writing it? They haven't said they just said. This is going to be a comic book and they're going to write it, so Taryn kill him. He thinks yeah, probably it'd Darth vader. He's done a bunch of star wars stuff I. Don't know if he did DARTH vader. He might have I remember. He did anyway. Yeah, that was my little bit news. Does round rounded out by simulations stimulate, and that would never have happened if we weren't on this specific track, courtesy of Elon Musk He. Did He. Talk about that, yeah, Joe Rogan. He explains it way better than me so. Do yourself a favor. For News. That was it all right well I covered mine. I have a couple big. What you're watching some movies watch that really WANNA. Talk about okay, but before we get to that I. Don't have any news myself I did find a couple articles we could talk about you'd want to. The best movies coming netflixing in July. That are worth your time Tina vom yeah. Again, this is not our list. No not ours we didn't create. These are new movies coming to Netflix in July that they're saying. Are they exciting? Are the best I haven't looked at any of them. Today! You never know I know I don't know. Ali. I should say. Say Ali like Oh lie. Holly Will Smith I'll oh, yeah, it's coming heard. That was a good movie is really good thing like a butterfly and float like a B.. That's right. Here is one that is coming that I will watch. Airplane. Oh like the old school. Liam Neeson yes Liam Neeson's not? What's? What's? That guy's name. Leslie Nielsen Leslie Feels Leslie Leslie. Name. It is grey, haired guy was funny. I. Love. Leslie Nielsen Yeah. That's ripped. I love that movie. Classic thought. Airplane to was the one that says surely you can't be serious. niamh serious, that's. I'm pretty sure all right. What's your clearance clearance? What you clearance? Clarence Clarence. Director, Victor. Classic. The devil's advocate. You Know I. Don't think I've ever seen that. That's a great movie is in that. Al Pacino. And Keanu Reeves. Is Yeah for some reason. I was thinking destined. Charlie started on. Seven Ninety s movie you know yeah, support late nineties maybe early two thousands. DONNIE BRASCO Another else you know I saw that movie and I. Don't remember Johnny Depp. It's good one. That's a really good one. The Karate Kid. Like the original, the original good Ralph Macho although. I really was a fan of the Jaden Smith one. I am, too. Crazy likes credited. paranormal activity leg never seen it. I did see it. It's not good shuttlers list I heard. That was good, Never Steven Spielberg. Liam Neeson Spielberg. Turns out he knows on. Them I've never seen that movie either direct. He's a dreams depressing. Yeah Yeah Sleepless in Seattle. Grind Tom Hanks I've seen. Here's a good one for you. Space Balls. One of my favorites, one of my favorite metal. Brooks movies for sure that is incredible Shawn Johnson. Patriots subscriber and Johnson. What is your favorite Mel Brooks movie. That's a hard one. I think I would say space balls would be space balls. I like history of the world and history of the world part two. That's a very good one. I mean blazing saddles. Slow that one's up there. Yeah I might have to give it to blazing saddles. But space balls I think baseball's takes it and end blazing saddles. Blazing Saddles is definitely better in space balls. You think so. Oh, yeah, blazing saddles is awesome. I mean it's. I don't know that's. I'm a huge fan of young Frankenstein. That's very good movie. It's fine. But yeah, I don't have likes. Baseball's though you WANNA, hear his directed. The films directed all of them Mel Brooks. The producers! Don't. You've never seen the producers. Nope, this is like the original, but then they remade like several years ago. It was a Broadway show anyway. That's going ninety one percent on rotten tomatoes. Pretty good blazing the twelve chairs never heard of it, pleasing saddles, ninety percent on rotten tomatoes Franken's young Frankenstein ninety three percent. Silent Movie, eighty-one percent, high anxiety, seventy-five percent history of the world part one. Those are sociology to those. Yes, of course, space balls, fifty seven percent round tomatoes. One of my favorite parts is when. Moses is standing there. He's I present to you these fifteen, and then he drops one tablet, and it breaks these these ten ten commandments have so funny. Robin, hood men in tights. That's a good one forty eight percents tomatoes. That's it drawer eight percent. At Dracula dead and loving it. Eleven percent on rotten tomatoes. His highest grossing movie was blazing saddles by far. Frankenstein was number two. Why did people forget about space balls you know I. Don't the desserts are? It's a good one, but. Dark Helmet. That was Okay, wait! That's his roles. Yeah, anyway, that's it I guess he's in every one of his movies, isn't he? He's in a lot of them. I know that. It's hard to be blazing. That dude is like ninety five years old and still kickin I. Didn't get out of you. Are. Where are we talking about Oh? That's right the. Ben Affleck that's that's a good movie, yeah! Total recall the original. the whole earned sourcing head. I watched that again, yeah! the Laura come on. The old guard. Coming. Like based on the comic, that's coming out like coming up in Charlotte thrown kicks but Major, but in the action movie based on the graphic novel I. Tell You what I have high hopes for this because the comic book is fee now the notebook. Talked about this because Rachel McAdams. Talk about her later. I think we will I. Never seen the notebook though the last year having never seen the notebook I don't. It's not bad. The last dance is coming I. WanNa see that I didn't catch it on ESPN originally, I didn't either. That's coming out to net flix. D- I'm skipping some by the way that's it. That's all those. So yeah. I forgot to put that in my the whole. That's all right. That in my what I'm watching. Which one? You know the one. I'll tell you you know what I WANNA see. Is I believe on Disney plus They're releasing Hamilton. Yes, they made it into a movie with the original cast yet, but it's just the second rated R. videoed of them on stage. Right Yep Yup I WANNA see that. I did see Hamilton in Chicago. I know you did not with the original cast. Now all the Chicago cast. It was very good very stressful. Really you because you have to pay hardcore attention. To hear the words because there's a rapping and it's like three hours long, so you're like on the edge of your seat the entire time just trying to hear what's going on. Really Go. I can never understand rap I can't. Like. Physically understand it I, not that I. Don't understand the candidates stanway. Anybody likes no. I'm not saying that I can't understand a lot of the words in rap, because it's usually so fast, and my mind works slow. I'm a slow person. And it's hard for me to like. Take in all of those words so quickly. I appreciate the art I enjoy rap, but I haven't really liked anything. Since grandmaster Flash I've said that timer. Tang my brothers do one by my TV, says you want to do much is healthy. Yep We've done that before. Did. That's like background music okay. Grandmaster Flash and the furious five all right? That's all I I was gonna read another one of the top twenty movie or Top ten movies of twenty twenty so far, and I've never heard of any of them. Literally any of those top twenty movies of twenty twenty so far there haven't been any movies coming out because cove. It has ruined our lives I. especially for a podcast like this. I was in Chicago the other day I got there for the whole day I had to go to the hospital. All Day and I was pretty excited. 'cause around the corner is like a huge AMC river east. It's like a big movie theater and it's open. And I'm, but you're in Chicago. Isn't that like a different phase in Paris the world? was there. I'm like I'm going to be here for ten hours I'm just GonNa go sit the movie theater all day. Yeah, closed not open. See they're? They're in a different phase than the rest of the world? But I thought Grundy. County was in like that phase of things. I think people in Grundy County. Just do whatever they want revolted i. know some people that went out to eat into the bar this weekend. And there was zero like there was no tables blocked off, but it's outside. NOPE, inside packed. Everything was solid pack. Like really nothing that that's what I've heard. I have not experienced it myself. I have not eaten inside any restaurants yet either I I did when I went to Missouri. Misery Likes Company. There was company they're. A lot of it. So. That's that's all I got Jerry. What are you? What are we moving on moving on now? We gotta go into what we're watching because that's all we have There is three things that I've watched me to okay. The first thing I'm going to talk about is I started season. Two of doom patrol. I didn't even realize it was out. Yeah, we talked about it started in June about three episodes of drop so far. I honestly don't remember anything. We've talked about that being out already. We talked we talked about it. As soon as we record these episodes right I literally forget everything we've talked about. It's a weird thing I don't I. Don't know why this happened to me like in an enormous day. Life I have conversations with people I will remember that. At a at a different point in my simulation, yeah! I remember the conversations. I've had on previous days after we record these episodes because we cover so much ground I don't. have any recollection of what we've talked about and I. I feel like we're in a different. Time zone like a different world younger doing this right here podcast world, because as soon as we leave, it's basically erased from my memory and I don't know why, and it's something that I don't want I. Don't want that to happen like this is. Like the one thing that I absolutely look forward to every single week. Right is doing this kind of thing, and then we have people like e FRY. That comment on things on Facebook Messenger and say like. The the sandwiches. What are you talking about? I? Don't remember talking about sandwiches eggs like would was there egg on it I don't know I. Don't know what you're talking on your face now. Apparently there is. I. Do you remember. Do you remember what we talked about? You do a lot better than I do. Most of the time, yeah, I mean not I guess not no. I. I listen back to the podcast a lot especially. If I have to cut them up, I haven't as much I mean. I listened back to what I have to post the episode and put out a description of what we talk about, but it's. Very. And then I will. I used to listen back to the episodes fully all the time I've gotten away from that I. Don't know why I. I've honestly gotten away from listening to a lot of podcasts because my drive to work as much shorter. I've listened to park and. I don't know it's so weird so weird to have people comment back on what we're doing. Oh, by the way speaking of listeners commenting Nolan sent us a book. Did you get it. I got it today. I haven't looked at it, okay? I saw it on the counter I need you to. Copy all I looked at the title. I can't remember what it is. I'll bring it next week and we can talk about it. It's very thick. Is this a? Big, book. But I appreciate that and we will check them. Yeah, thanks can get a chance to. No I don't remember yeah lots of times. People will say stuff that we talked about and I'm like I have no idea where he. Zero almost every time. I. Mean it is almost every time, so we did talk about. Do we didn't talk about it recently? But you mentioned that doom control was going to be back in the like. Just June twentieth or something. Yeah I guess I didn't realize that time has elapsed that far, so I did start watching it I watched. The first episode is All I've got to right now and. Yeah, I mean. It's like on par with first season. started a little slow. I thought but interesting so I. I'm this doesn't. Doesn't sound very good to me. No the way you're coming across listen, here's the deal I watched it on my ipad and I was kind of distracted at. Okay so I didn't really give it a fair shake. There's something right at the beginning of the first episode. That's very interesting happens. They introduced a new character and then There is A. It's set up interesting I didn't even I. Don't think I finished. The first episode I got distracted got knocked out of it so I will be checking that out a little more as we go along here. I think that's that's all you've watched the the very first yet. So I. Out Right now three I believe yeah, are they? Or the weekly weekly. Okay. So I'm excited for that and. I believe it's also available on Hbo Max. Now you don't have have a DC. Subscription would know can't get. so that's the first thing I I watched you. So I started watching. We talked about a little bit before the show and I talked about at your house I started watching just A. It's nothing big, but it was. It's called into the unknown making a frozen to go. I love watching behind the scenes stuff. Anything behind the scenes I'm in for their because I finished. The. When the Star Wars one I is awesome when it's. Have you ever watched are called Star Wars Gallery? Yes. It's so good. It is so good anything behind the scenes I'm in for We obviously have been pretty big fans of frozen to You took a little bit longer than most to understand that this was a far superior movie. Then I I still love it though I wanna be clear on that. You don't like I like the music, but it's not one that I would probably be watch. Oh, my gosh, here's such an idiot. Oh, it's a good movie. I'm not saying. Dom. Chris, it is far superior. It really not relying only want to watch for into. You know why because I've just pounded it into them. It is better. The story is better. It gives you so much more I'm not saying what it is about like. I'm seeing that point. Yes, I agree with you. Yeah, and I I like it so therefore. When the when I found out, they had a behind the scenes like making of this show, I wanted to watch it and they. What really draws me in is the music. So they show a lot of the creation of the songs, and the very first episode they do into the unknown, and what really caught me was when, so they record all of the vocals than they do all that stuff that's great, but when they get the orchestra, the live orchestra in the studio and the producer of frozen to the creative director for Disney or the creative director. Director for Animation Disney was in charge of frozen to, and then she got the promotion to be the creative director for all animation, so she was overseeing a lot of things, but she was dedicated frozen to at the time, and she sitting in the booth. A lot of people are in a Adina. Menzel was in there as well and they are sitting there and she's like a Menzel like. Lip synching the words as they're playing it, but then you watch the orchestra play the music. and seeing them. Like! Listen to this live music, and when like the big beat hit? It's just like blowing them away and just like. Like blown away by all of these beats of music and I just think it's really really interesting that interest me big time we went and saw. What was it the Chicago Symphony? Yoyo Ma that was one of the. Things Yeah Yo Yo Mama. That was one of the best things I've ever seen. If you haven't had a chance to see a live symphony orchestra. You need to tell you go. Symphony orchestras is fantastic for edible. It's you feel like you have Salil. The music the way the whole room is like the acoustics of the room. I. Think we at a particularly good show I've probably gone about three times. And that one I cleaned by far the best. It was the guy. I can't remember the composer's name, but it was as he was I debut this new your yes, or whatever you call it with your Mama. It was amazing. That was the best one I've ever been to I. Tell you what like people can make fun of? That type of music like orchestral music and stuff. I don't know why it's time I don't. Why would you you know but people do? People criticize that kind of stuff and say like Oh. That's boring. That's for old people. It's not I tell you what is on you see it's not boring. If you're sitting in the audience and you feel that music whence when they're playing it, it's it's unbelievable something you can't experience. Anywhere it does literally like almost like transport you yeah, it does. It's crazy. I was on the edge of my seat, sitting up like a small child at a carnival. I really was I was so into it I've always loved music. I've always been that way, but. Who is not as into music as I am was the same way, and she talks about that same. Show it just when you see a live orchestra it. It's incredible the the like. Just, the skill involved with all of what they do. And the timing and being altogether and just the practice they put into it, and then getting the like the raw music played in front of you is unbelievable, and you could see that on the faces of these people in. The show. They were foreseeing it. They felt it they saw, and it was I I loved it. That's what drew me into this show. And that's why I wanted a CA- can actually do all from a pop. Paul's posters fame. He was telling me he went to Chicago. Symphony Orchestra and saw John Williams. Oh Star Wars Saga or did all of his movies Oh okay, yeah, he did. Star Wars Superman dressing part. I would love that yeah. That killed the girl that I. Don't know if that ever happens again. I tried to get tickets I remember when that happened and they were like sold out immediately. Yeah, but how did he get? His wife got them for him for president or something. I remember. That's awesome, so that was my show that I watch. What's your next one? While real quickly I will mention. I'm still still like deepen star wars rebels world. Among the last season now I love it. How many seasons there's four I think? How many episodes this season like to. Know it's four hundred, not that many. Really twelve maybe I don't know at the rate. You're watching them. I would've figured you finish this a long time ago. you know I'm not actually sure. I haven't been watching that much in general, so that's probably why. No. There's more there. Okay, sorry. There is like twenty I think. Episodes preseason, yeah! The first season had fifteen seconds season at twenty, two third at twenty, two fourth sixteen. Fourth. Love it. Is it. So Star Wars rebels. Where does a fourth season leave off then? Or like where where does it pick up? Or, what do you mean? Where does it pick? I haven't ever really watched it so the first season. Where does it pick up in the star? Wars timeframe? The. Whole thing takes place before a new hope. Okay, so it's after the clone wars is lost its the formation of the rebellion. So it would have been in that like rogue one timeframe. Okay, so it is spanning the gap between Clone Wars and Oh. Yeah, absolutely okay. He's in four is getting of like the man delorean war. Season for us all right so. That that makes a lot more sense to me because I didn't know if there was overlap there or between like clone wars and rebels, or between the movies and rebels I didn't know. Myra fell in place. I think that maybe. I just I don't honestly care for their enemy. Okay, yeah, so season four the end of season four and At the battle of indoor, so like from return of the Jedi. Does. Also. It goes through the movies then, yes. Season four ends, so it starts like before the movies and goes through to the end of the movies, but it's interesting quite a time. Get like when. Time. Is like a kid and by the end of it. He's like more of like He's probably older teenager. So it probably spans several years. And interesting, there's a lot more grant admiral thron. He's great in it. It's it's such a good show and it for what it's worth. I think it's the direction that star wars going. Now with Dave felonious at the helm does Lonnie. Did he do rebels who go yet? He did and didn't. No I knew he did. delorean with Jon Favreau. So that's the direction. Actually they change a lot and rebels about what the force is in like. The whole world of Star Wars has kind of changed within that show and They've talked about that now. We know there's going to be spinoffs Yup of the mandatory directly rates related to rebels, but there's things that happened within rebels that I. Think is going to influence where the movies go from here on out. Really Yeah for sure it's, it's required watching. It really is. Just so much! My APP. Honestly, it's it's much content it. That's what that's. What stops me from watching. This stuff is because there's just so much content, so then what happens is and the reason I. Don't start to watch these things. I will only watch that, and then we come into this podcast and i. only say this is what I've watched. Yeah, it's just this one thing because there's not enough time. In my days. To Watch that much stuff you know unless I watch individual shows or individual movies I'm thinking you need what? Golly just feels like work speaking of Star Wars I. Am this I? Guess is a little bit of news was reading an article today that apparently George. Lucas has expressed interests in. Making his sequel trilogy now. Just on his own, no, he wants Disney to let him make what he wanted to make for the sequel trilogy. That could be awesome and they're talking about. This is I wonder how they do that. We well I. Think I mentioned this last week, but there are some rumors circulating that they're gonNA take the last three JJ movies. Yeah, and they're going to spin it as alternate universe. Like this happened in an alternate universe, really yes. I didn't end as pretext for it within rebels. For that to happen. For it to be an alternate universe. There's new. Philosophies divorce, and Chris what's going happen within the force that. Would give pretexts something like that being possible. Of course, the problem is, you're never going to get back. Harrison Ford Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher's now. You're not so that's fine. We don't need them back. We could leave wall. That's the star. The skywalker saga but it. Didn't star Star Trek and Her George Lucas. Take is absolutely going to have those people involved I. Don't know I don't know well I know we don't know at this point, but I mean. You can assume at this point he would have those characters involved as I don't think it'll happen, but I do think there's a world in which they just kind of shove those ones under the rug. Really just move on in the new direction from here on out I. Don't think they're going to touch anything with those. No, I don't think any of those characters back. They're done. Yeah I think we're GONNA. See any of that, even if George Lucas is on board with something. It'll be something else, yeah. Yeah it's not going to be. It's not going to be the star wars apparently Lucas has become much more involved in the mand. Laurean, as of late, he has yeah. Interests like showing up on set. Giving ideas dressing is giving him. Indeed phony are very close day. Flooding was handpicked by George Lucas. So. It stands to reason and Dave Baloney George. You ever thought about CGI. Make the whole room this at. What if we? Have you ever thought about putting job of the hut? So anyway, that's interesting. You need to watch rebels. They're gonNA. What's your next one next? Next do you WanNa talk about the movie or the TV show? That I've watched TV show okay talking about the TV show. This is the one I texted you about last night. That I got no response for okay, I didn't see it must've sleep. Oh, well, probably so. It's somewhat embarrassing I. Feel like Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I read that this morning I feel like it is designed. I don't know why feel embarrassed about it to be two. Per Se. because the more I watch it, the more I think it's very funny. It's a show called crazy ex girlfriend. Okay on Netflix. It came out. There's four seasons. It came out I think twenty fifteen. I don't know if they had a twenty twenty season I'm not sure the timeframe on when this came out. I do believe they referenced the Year Twenty fifteen and the first season. Okay. I'm about six episodes in the first season I think there's ten episodes. There might be eight I'm not again. I'm not sure I I haven't looked ahead to see. How many episodes are I just six episodes in. The Star and creator of the show, her name's Rachel Bloom. She is like a Broadway actress. She's done a lot of singing and stuff on Broadway and she created. This show called crazy ex girlfriend, so she is a it starts off her at the summer camp, and she has a boyfriend at summer camp, and she has completely in love with him Oh. Yeah, I've seen. I've seen the and he breaks. He breaks up with her. At the end of summer camp and they don't see each other again for ten years and she. She becomes this very like Well off lawyer in New York. And she's the very first episode is like you're going to be. A they're bringing you on as junior partner for this huge law firm in New York where she was GonNa make five, hundred, thousand six hundred thousand dollars a year. You know like because she's becoming partner and. She was getting nervous when they they like confronted her a lady that works there and said they're gonNA. Make you partner today like it's happening today. She gets super nervous runs out into the street. Just like get breath and in this show the reason it's caught my eye and the reason. I started watching. It is because it out of nowhere. They will break into. And she will sing, and it'll be like a dance number, and they'll sing and stuff, and that shit gets me down I love that kind of stuff, and she usually breaks into song while that happens. She runs into the sky that she dated a in the at the summer camp. She sees him walking down the street in New York as a little bit of dialogue with them finds out. He's moving back to a California. She goes back up into in there. There's this butter ad. That was talking about like. Follow love or like, what do you love? What is love and she doesn't know she has some. Mental issues a little bit like little bit of depression and anxiety issues. And she liked declines the offer and decides I'm just going to move to California Throughout this whole process. She's completely denying the fact that she's just uprooting or entire life to chase the sky, even though he has a girlfriend, but that's absolutely what she's doing. And then it just following her as she moves to California and she gets friends and there's a bunch of different things that happened, but it's kind of a soap opera e a little bit. It seems like to me. And it's not designed for me. In the slightest like it's not a show, I should be watching. Amy has criticized me terribly for watching this show. She's always seen it on, and she's like what what are you doing? I. Don't know Amy I don't. I don't know why I'm watching this, but every once in a while they break out in song, and some of them are like super inappropriate and make me laugh. And that's it. That's all I can tell you is that there are some songs? There was one last night in episode five. I'm not even GONNA. Speak I'm going to tell you about it. After the show Remind me it was relatively uncomfortable to hear this man sing the song. But it's it's very funny and IT PR- been progressively getting better and I continue to watch it and I don't know if I would suggest anybody to watch show I. Guess any female in the audience I. Think would enjoy it to a point. most. Males most not all including me because I'm one that enjoy it. Most males probably won't enjoy the show, but I just have a weird side of me that I. Enjoy something. Like this weird sexist world that you live? I'm just saying like the majority of men probably will not enjoy the show the majority, not all now. I want to watch it. There are some people that will enjoy like it. That's what I mean like me. I enjoyed the show, but the majority of men I would say. Would it okay if you took a wide poll across the nation? The majority of men would probably say That's something I'd Watch, okay. That's all that's all I'm saying you can't. I would suggest you. Check it out. Probably it's at CW. Show I. Don't know about that. It is I didn't know that it was a CW show. There's no way there's a lot of cursing and really off. Putting stuff, I could be wrong. It's there's thought it was I'm looking at an advertisement that says cw. Thought it was strictly net premiered on two thousand fifteen on the CW. This is it's rated TV May. Rachel Bloom Yeah. Maybe the first couple of episodes were throughout its four season run. The show consistent consistently drew low ratings while receiving rave reviews from critics. It's one of the lowest rated shows in television history. To be renewed through four seasons. That work. I mean it's not. Groundbreaking by any means I just think it's deems mental illness, female sexuality and Reproductive System in parenting Yup. Who that sounds like a real. That's what I'm saying. It's it's really strange that I would ever watch this and I think it's good. I kind of want to check it out. I'll I'll check it out. I can guarantee you I mean. Trouble I'm going to go on record right now. Episode Eighty Three Jerry says Chris comes back to an episode and says what the off Bawku. Are you thinking watching this show, okay? Just saying I don't think it's GonNa. be in your wheelhouse whatsoever all right well, you never know, but it's a nuanced individual. That's what I'm GONNA. Continue to watch this show. I don't know if I'll make it through four seasons, but I'm definitely gonNA finish the first. All right all right my turn, so I watched movie I kind of watched getting some movies right? Yeah. I got into one. We'll talk about that. One last I watched a movie. I've been wanting to watch for a while. It's Adam. Sandler isn't a new movie that he got a lot of praise for. They talked about Oscars. I started it on an. Uncut gems in its on net flicks. Your, take on this. It got a huge critical reception. He was supposed to be supposed to now. so. I WANNA check this out for a while, but I had heard me too that he plays a bad guy and that it's like kind of A. Movie where there's not a lot of redeeming characters, so I've just been in the mood. To Watch something like I can understand you know, but anyway so I had sometimes. I honestly just saw how long it was and I was like I. Don't have that time to watch. But I checked it out. Interesting movie I will say that it was not what I expected. It was at all really. So. Ninety two percent on rotten tomatoes for critic score and a fifty two percent for audience score. A wide disparity and I will tell you what I completely understand that. Critically. Like a lot of the performances and the film making is the filmmaking is. Different than what you see. For the most part so different than what you would normally see, normally seen so like novel. Yeah, fairly novel okay, so I could see that as being interesting to people Adam. Sandler was streamed good in his performance as an actor I thought was really good, one of his best ever that being said he's not a likable character. All right and you don't and by the way I guess some spoilers I don't want to spoil it too much Jerry might I'm going to finish it, yeah. There aren't any likable characters, and it really need to speak of so. That's the one thing I will say about. It is a very exciting movie from the point of view of its nonstop, and you are always kind of on the edge of your seat like wondering what's coming next just a very fast paced movie right? Is it really I didn't get that from the beginning. Yeah, maybe not quite at the very beginning, but it becomes very quickly pretty paced movie. and. Almost like manic. I would describe it doesn't manic. That's kind of how his character is. And that's getting in our. Style. It's of really first of all. It's got a really interesting soundtrack that I. Don't know that I liked but I thought it was like set in the eighties, but it's not no, it's current time. Yeah, I don't think it is or relatively turn times, but it's got like a weird eighties soundtrack, and like look to it interesting I think the whole world of jewelry. World area that they're in New York. City is interesting I'm sure it's think it's like real rupture. Alan shirts real and it's very interesting, but basically you're following Adam Sandler's character who is a jeweler who owns a high end jewelry boutique, but he's like a degenerate gambler. Yes. and He owes money all over town, and he's being chased constantly by people that he owes money to so in that respect. There is no point in the movie where you feel any sort of ease a high anxiety movie. To the point. Where like I'm I'm already a very under a lot of stress right now in anxiety in my life. In like I feel like it was a detriment to my life to watch. Like there is. It's just undo anxiety that I didn't need my life. Why do you feel? Like if that was their goal in this movie, which I assume that it was to elicit an emotional response to a movie, the emotional response were successfully is anxiety. dusing movie it is. That's why I say like you're on the edge of your seat, but not necessarily in a good way. It's just like. It's what shoes gonNA drop next like. How's it going to get from here to there? You know what I mean. So you're my thing is like. A movie like that. Gets me angry rather than this movie shis like it doesn't make me anxious. It would be like. Calm on this movie could make you angry, but. It'll make you anxious and he thinks he's a little bit angry. Make you angry at the end they. Oh really. I didn't like it. I didn't like this movie very much. There's no likable characters. I don't like feeling anxious and anxiety ridden for a movie. It didn't I. Don't find that entertaining. there's not a lot of redeeming story here. There is a twist ending. Which? I'm glad they did and it really. It builds up to the certain thing point that's going to happen and then. The whole thing has changed at the end. Okay in weirdly satisfying yet unsatisfying way. All right, so it's interesting in that respect. Yeah, I liked that another. Another annoying thing though M lot, an nate shelman twist. Kind of. Another annoying thing is the dialogue. It's nonstop. Just everybody is constantly talking over each other. Like, there will be able logging all the time all over each other and like I. Swear to God. There's nowhere to follow. There is no point in this movie where people stop talking. It's like filmed in that way. It's almost like it's supposed to be like overwhelming. Yes, it is supposed to be overwhelming, but also like it's supposed to be like the cameras, just a fly on the wall catching sure you know real conversation I. It's yeah, it's. It's a bit much. I can't in good conscious. Recommend anybody to watch. It really has won't recommend anyone to watch this. No, it has, it has some. Has Some interesting things, and it has some redeeming features has good performances, and it has some novel things, but it is not an enjoyable way to spend two hours of your life. That sounds terrible to be honest like it sounds am I glad I, watched it. Yeah I guess but. I don't know the ending. Is If anything just for the ending? which is interesting and there's some interesting things that happened in the movie, but. It was just all little much for me. I don't I don't? I guess I can see the critic score being high I can't imagine. It being oscar-nominated Though So anyway. That was my take on movie I think you should still finish it. Yeah I'm I, I plan on This was made by the Safti brothers. Yeah, and I don't know I. Don't think about them. I don't either, but I've heard so many people alcohol makers claimed, but then if you look at feature film titles, there's the pleasure of being robbed never two thousand eight. daddy long legs two thousand nine, that not seen Lenny Cooke. Heaven knows what. Two thousand fourteen. Good time. Two thousand seventeen and uncut gems to the nineteen, so not like a time. Good time. I feel again, no this one. American crime. Thriller Film. John Benny Safdie. Robert Pattinson is is in it as a bank robber desperately trying to get enough money to pay the bail well, I'm gonNA. Tell you after seeing this movie. I'm probably don't need to see any of their movies. It's not my thing. Apparently, they've been really good, but I don't know any of their stuff, so yeah, it didn't seem like it was going to be my thing. I stopped it. Because of my kids were around. Yeah, I started watching. Yeah I started watching it without the kids around, and they happened to arrive, and I had to shut it off, and I haven't went back to it and it hasn't been something that I was like man. I need them back on, you know. Kept my attention I'm not saying it didn't keep my attention. I wasn't bored. I just didn't need it my life. Right, just a need that undue anxiety. I get so if you're into like. Anxiety? Fast, paced. I don't want to say thriller because it's not a thriller, but it's. Is it's definitely not a thriller. I wouldn't call it. That I following a man and his miserable ass life. Yeah, pretty much. Which I get out of have a precedent for not enjoying that like I love the movie American Splendor. which is a good following a man and his miserable life or sideways? Same thing I like those types of movies, yeah. This is not that that this is. It's like a thriller without action. Okay. It's like a thriller in. A thriller anxiety I. Don't know how another way to say it. I wouldn't call it a thriller though if the. Guy. Who owes money all over the place? That's just trying to keep balls in the air and make one deal, so he can make a deal payoff, so you know what I felt about. It's like it's like the same shops. It's like a real life pawnshop. I felt that about. Ozark, it's it is. It's similar to Ozark and that's why I didn't care for Ozark to be honest like I get chastised for that because. That? Everybody loves those are. ozarks got more better story in actual drama. This in the characters are a little bit more likable in that show, and I understand this gives you a lot of the same type of feel. If you like Ozark, you might like this movie so I I don't necessarily care for the first season that I watched only because it's. It felt like there was no possible way out of this will not. This movie feels like all the time and so. Can assume I can assume, but you're always I won't care for now, but see necessarily because in this movie your assumption. You're on your with him on his journey. To make it pay off at the end. Why know that, but you're also thinking that of Ozark like you're thinking. You're on this journey to where he's going to successfully get out of whatever he's getting out of or. Whatever like on? Every movie you watch, you have that. Hope of the main character is getting out of this problem like you. The problem arises you get you. You work through that problem and at the end they solve. The problem that's. Good bad or indifferent. They end up solving the problem. And that's the ending and the ending is what people say like I either liked it or didn't like it, and that's what they judge the movie. But. These shows are a a ride. That looks to be a complete. Dead End to where it's like there's no way out of it not built it up. That's what this is. That's how I felt about Ozark. That it you build up to a point, and then they continue that ride. To nowhere like. There's no way possible out of this. You've put yourself in a position where you cannot rise above it well first of all, there haven't watched season two I. Know I have not the case in season. Two of those I completely agree I'm just saying that. Watching a few episodes. That's what I assume. It's just an assumption. It's just my opinion of what I've seen, and that's why I fell out of it. It's just because it was something that was undesirable of me to watch a guy suffer. Yeah, okay so. It isn't necessarily that you're watching Adam. Sandler's character's suffer. It's that you're on the journey with him. To suffer, try and. Make the big score. And he's got to. Gambling is gambling wise and he's got to pay these pipers. which seems so ridiculous to me when you have this high end jewelry boutique to where you could be making tons of Manuel but everything's leveraged this one deal for this gem. Yeah for the uncut off this uncut gem. Yes, but the movies about. Is this in this jam as you'll see us, any just randomly takes Kevin. Let's Kevin Garnett take right off the right off. The Bat like this thing is like so precious were so much money. You want to take it okay. Go ahead and tell you I mean he makes decisions so dumb all the time throughout this show. So anyway, and that's that's another part that annoys me. It's like watching somebody. Make poor decisions over and over again right? Put yourself in this situation. What you were Adam Sandler. Maybe it's guarded enough enough. Talk that. Maybe it is worth watching. You should definitely finish it because I want to get your take what the ending is like. Okay, and it's two hours it. It was a long two hours. Don't get me wrong, but is that all it is? I thought it was two and a half. I don't know, but it's movie. It's not like tying into a seasonable. Guy Yeah. All Right! Let's move on to last one with. Both of us. All right, so ban I. Had An afternoon and I'm just like delight afternoon. Delight, no I. Just had an afternoon off new this weekend and I just wanted something stupid to watch Yup, then you have to think about. I just want something to play in the background. Really sure and I'd seen the ad on Net flicks, which in the time now I guess. It's number one thing on Netflix it is. For the this new will Farrell, movie. Called Eurovision Song Contest. Eurovision. the something fire Saga Oh. Yeah I think it's called Eurovision Song contest the story of Fire Saga. Yes, so that's their band name. Yeah, Rachel McAdams and Will Ferrell, so I saw this and I'm like okay. This looks terrible I'm just GONNA, turn it on I'm a fan of will farrell movies. Some some welfare movies and other ones I'm just like. Yet and this one just looked. To me. Like redick looked like an SNL skit. Yeah, we talked about at your house and I had said the same thing I saw the trailer for it that Netflix's plays like if you are on the movie, it just automatically starts playing a trailer and I was like. This looks pretty ridiculous like something that I really I. Don't know if I wanted to Wa I. Don't think I ever would have watched it and if I didn't wasn't. Wasn't in that situation or use? It was looking for something dumb. I wouldn't have watched. It had not heard you talk about so I flip on this movie and I'm watching it and shortly into this movie I'm talking shortly in I. Find Myself Getting immensely sucked into this movie. Yes, and as it goes on I find myself becoming very invested in these characters and this movie Dan, so that's what I wanted to bring up. I'm going to tell you. This movie is fantastic. The story itself is pretty shallow and we're GONNA do spoilers because injury of both watched. It spoilers if you haven't seen Eurovision. Song contest on net flicks. The story of Fire Saga, I highly recommend that you watch it I do as well, but but also understand it is a slapstick comedy in part in part, but there are parts of this movie that are. Kind of ridiculous right there it is, it is a weird there's this is my only problem with the movie is they did a weird thing where they couldn't decide whether they wanted to make a serious romantic comedy or slapstick comedy correct, so they kind of they melded Melvin them together in a way. That doesn't necessarily work perfectly I agree, but it's. It's easy enough to overlook. And there there are parts of it. That aggravated me. Yeah, for sure to where I was like common like you didn't need to do that part of it. But that doesn't take away from the overall aspect of this movie to where I. The character development, and the way they make you fall in love with these two people in in everybody around them, even the everybody's likable everybody around these two. Even those you star Ronald. called. Wasn't even really a Ville, and you end up. Him, at the end, and you feel bad for him in a certain way, and then you, because he so yes, against spoilers. This is all spoiler ridden from this point on, if you, if you WANNA, go, watch it and not have it spoiled. Stop listening because I'm going to spoil the shit out of it right now, yeah! So this villain guy. That, it looks like he's trying to intercept the couple which he does do in a way. He's only. He's struggling so much with his inner self and like. Being a Russian. He's he's from Russia. And there are no gay people in Russia right as pretty funny scene. Can't. You can't be gay in Russia? But he clearly is like he's clearly gay, and he's struggling with that and he can't be open about it, so he tries to find other outlets for that. Or that and I I don't know like he's a relatively likable guy. At the end of the movie like I and you fall in love with the Greek the Greek singer. Yes, she. What was her name? I can't remember, but well. Let's go back to the beginning the point of this movie. It's a it's A. It's a small town in Iceland, and and before that Eurovision is an actual contrast in Europe. This is based on orioles contests, and also was made with the cooperation of Eurovision. Yes, so they wanted this movie made and if you read the comment or read the reviews. On IMDB especially because I I follow IMDB like a lot of those reviews because people are. Like I think it's better than rotten tomatoes I agree so if you go on IMDB in look at the comments, there are people from all different countries commenting on this that are saying like what a great representation of Eurovision. What like we've been waiting for a show a movie about this? We've been waiting for something to represent this show. Yeah, and they. They all say this did yeah, which blows my mind it. The show is it's camp. Camp on purpose. Eurovision is like campy bands from different countries. It's fun. It's just a fun ridiculous thing to do in Europe. And the cool part about this is that each country takes a band or a contestant, and they have their own little competition, and they select one winner for their country and put them in Eurovision, so each country is representing these people. Yeah, and it's not necessarily the most talented artists from that country not. That they've elected basically and. Just because they're outrageous, yes, some of it's funny. Some of it's because they're talented. Whatever you know I'm sure. The Rolling Stones weren't in Eurovision for you know what I mean, right? You know what I mean. It's not like that it's it's all camp. It's like fun. Yeah, it's it's four entertainment. Yeah, so he. This has will and Rachel McAdams which I thought it was odd that she was in this movie in the first place, but it isn't really because she was in like pitch. Perfect right? No, isn't she? In Pitch Perfect? Well Anyway. She's a phenomenal singer Zimmer notebook, really releasing. She wasn't in the. Well feral Rachel McAdams Their Icelandic from the small town, and their dream is to be musicians and Eurovision and so it just basically goes from them, being complete obscurity, and then like randomly when when winning Icelandic. Thing through a horrible mishap. Yes, horrible explosion of about that kill all the performers, and then they get into Eurovision, and then they're supposed to fail miserably, and it's just like their rise from losers, essentially, and being completely laughed at the entire time and being told. From point like from from the starting point. All the way till the end, they're basically told you guys are terrible. You're not going to win. And they just continue on. You know because they are so passionate about what they're doing. And the first song they sang right in the beginning. That volcanic man should hire. You love that song all the music and that's what makes us movie. Ray It's the music and of musical but yeah. I'm a huge fan of musicals and they nail it with this one like all. The music is on an interesting and I. I enjoy all a lot of. It's really funny There's a lot of really good humor in this movie way more than I thought. There would be I thought it'd be a lot dumber than it was. Yep, and it ends up being pretty funny like I laughed out significantly several times during this did as well and but really what wins, it is the heart and the emotion and the music here's. Here's what makes us movie different in in. My opinion is that it doesn't center itself around will, Ferrell's character. Really I mean. Will Ferrell's character takes center stage because he wants to be. The winner of Eurovision. That's all of this dream but Rachel. McAdams character is the one that it's really centered around and she. Has a really big struggle because all of her opinions have never been listened to. She doesn't really get a voice in that group. Per Se. But it centers around her struggle between being in that group Dur- doing your own thing and just like her. With him love for. Will Ferrell's character. Is completely in love with him, and he's pushed her away the entire. Euro centered and selfish. Yes, and that's what ultimately the struggle of the movie is him dealing with his. Selfishness and her dealing with her. Non Ability to go out and push her agenda. Right so that's what I love about. It is that it does you do see you see her character. Go through all of these different things like trying to put her opinion out there and say like well. I think we should do this. All of it is pushed down from Will Ferrell's character and I. Don't mean that in a bad way. It doesn't make him look bad guy. He's still likable. He's still very likeable and in the whole movies likable, but then you see it start to shift you know through through the whatever happens in the movie, and then. I'M GONNA, just skip to the end because the whole ending part of this movie is what made it for me? Yeah Russia ending of the movie and the ending song and what they choose to do. I absolutely love. I! That's where I was like Gosh Dang it. This is such a good. JERKER. It really is and. It just has everything that I. Enjoy to watch a movie like it had a lot of a lot of excitement. How great music had a lot of heart, and it had a lot of comedy and it ends the way it should. Yes, it ends the way. Not necessarily the way you wanted to in the beginning, but then when it comes full circle to the end. You're like Yup that was right like they did this the right way. They start out small they get. Somewhat big because of the show. And then they end small what I did and I like that. Yeah, I agree and what? I didn't see coming and didn't quite follow was the. The whole murder plot. That came out of nowhere. Yeah, I didn't I must have missed that early on. It's because of the elves. The elves I thought that was funny. Actually, that was a good touch but I didn't catch what was going on there and I. Feel like a little bit attractive. Didn't really though because it kind of goes the comedic angle of the movie it does, and there's there's this part where the elves murderer guy, and it's funny, because they throw this little little miniature knife in this guy's back in the Guy Dies and will Ferrell's like. He's like thank you just gotTa. Set this year now is like I'm just going to put your knife down right here. You can have it back if you want for murder purposes. It's so funny he's. He's very good and his will Ferrell's wife is Swedish me. Go to Sweden every single year in the summer. They spend the entire summer in Sweden. I found this out because I get into rabbit hole things and started looking into it and yet they spend the whole year in Sweden. He spent a lot of time in in Iceland in that area of the world so he's. Familiar with it, and he told the story in an interview where when he goes to Sweden like Swedish people are very kept to themselves, and they don't when they when they meet. They see famous people. They don't interact with you. They're just like okay. You're there all right I'm going to I. See you and keep going. And he said that when you're in Sweden, he's like I can pick out an American a mile away. He said because they're so loud and apparent. He's like I was on a boat going across this lake, he said in I immediately saw these Americans and he's like I heard them speaking over everyone else, and they're like Ouza Zach will yeah. That's Will Ferrell. He's like the dad of this group, said I'M GONNA GO CHECK IT OUT He's like so he starts walking across the boat to him. He's like in the way I. Get around us is that he's like I know very minimal words in Sweden in Swedish. He's like so I immediately. Look at my wife and just start talking random words. He's like they make. No sense he's like, but she's knows what I'm doing is I can I just start speaking random Swedish words he's like in this guy came over and started walking circles around me, and he's like as I'm just thrown out the Swedish words. He's like the guy looks at me, and then he looks over his family, and is this no bad him. Not It's not him, and then he walks away was like it works every single time. Well I. Don't know I think it's a really good movie that everybody should watch I really enjoyed it I was really surprised. And maybe it's because I was expecting so little, so don't take this as at some groundbreaking film. No, no, and there are still parts of this movie that are will to me. They were a little bit frustrating because I did want it to be once I realized how good it was I wanted those parts to go away. I agree I felt like. With a little tweaking. Like, this could have been a really big movie like I almost felt like originally I'm like Oh. This was clearly a movie that they meant for theaters, but it never would have made any money, so they put on Netflix right but I don't think that's the case by the way I think it was. A netflix produced movie, but You. Do get that feeling that it's kind of like a B. Movie. Yeah, but it's it's fine. It is fine line. I what I wish they would have done. My only thing that I wish they would have done is take that volcanic man song that they did in the beginning and they just they like overproduced it in the beginning. You know as them. Just practicing Asong I wish they would have brought that back at the end. To where they would have actually been able to fulfil that song and play it on stage I like what they did at the end, but I wish at some point they could have worked that back into song at the end is so great it is I. Don't want them to take that song away. I just wish they played that song on stage like at one of the stages incompetent. Yes, yeah, I wish they could replayed that because in the beginning they just. Man They nailed it with that song. I really love it. It's also a little unbelievable A. IT'S A. It's a lot. Yes for sure, but they make they like. Push the agenda too much that they're like terrible when they're clearly not. The. Really aren't these. She sings better than the majority of the competition I think right, and even his not a bad singer, but he's also playing Stephanie wrote the songs like in their town I mean like the people in that town are. They pushing this whole narrative that the terrible and the whole time you're. They're not terrible. Why's everybody keeps saying that they're so terrible? Yes, like they're playing in the local bar. Everybody's having a great time. Yeah like you make one us to believe that everybody thinks her. These these horrible losers. It doesn't make any sense, so that's the one disconnect there I. I love the little things like Pierce Brosnan as his Dad Graham Norton as the commentator. He does perfect. Yeah I just. There was no unlikable and again just a good positive way to spend some time I agree especially like if you want. Somewhat Mindless TV. You know it is somewhat mindless. You don't have to think about it definitely doesn't produce any anxiety. No. It's like a relief to watch this movie and it actually turned out to be something that is better than what you expected. Yeah that we may have just ruined that for you. But that was your fault for continuing on I'm just saying. Don't be afraid of it because it looks like some dumb. You know welfare comedy is still. Like against watching it. She thinks it's going to be the. Hanes woolf errol. Really, she hates, Will Ferrell. So she won't watch any of his movies. That's why I started watching it without her, and then about halfway through. She walked in and she was just on her phone. She doesn't usually pay attention anything. That's on the TV on her phone and then I noticed like watching it and I'm like. Got Her, so I honestly want to watch this again. Especially after talking about I would watch it again. I WANNA. Watch it again. Because I I enjoyed it that much to. Where is I think it's a very watchable and I wanNA. Watch it with amy and just get her take on. It. I don't think she'll be as excited about it as I was, but I don't think she'll hate it at all and that that's almost. Here's the only thing I could say. Is it was the middle of the day we had some? Will you guys were coming over? Yeah, and some other kids per caches, birthday and I had like a window of time to watch this and I had to pause. It would like twenty minutes left and come back here to get some stuff for I. don't remember so Mama back home and Marley says. Almost home Marlins, can you run to your parents and grab something? To I was like I don't have enough time like I need to finish this movie or these people get to the House I told her that I have finish watching this movie like I'm invested in now you've got twenty minutes left in this movie and twenty minutes Til. People show up at the house. You can't take a five minute detour. Did you finish it right before I got like right before? So that's how invested I got in this movie and like I just found myself many times just looking at this smiling. Yes, just laughing, I just isn't that great, you raise. It's been a long time. I feel like I felt like that. After watching something, everything is so heavy now I know it is and. I don't know I just really. It's a good break from all of the heaviness, and so you told me about it, and then even mean look entertainment entertainment, savvy stories that we get now are very invested in invested in high stakes, everything's high stakes, and this was high stakes for them. Yeah, but not for the watcher. Yeah, so I. Don't know. I highly recommend that you. You sold me on it when you when you told me about a at your house, and I was like man I. Guess I have to Really Watch this now and I started it that night when I got home and finished at the next morning. Just so pleased yeah, it was so pleased with I saw. So I think that's it. That's all we got for this week. We are wrapped. That's it for SNARF. Talk this week. I've been Chris I'm Jerry. Band.

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High Vibe Guys  Episode 10

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High Vibe Guys Episode 10

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. Www dot I'd passed introit dot com before information. This is your mind very very special episode of the guys episode. Ten Bang. Bang a big growth will big us as you got me to run a scholar a plank guy all that good stuff and then you have a great way plant guy you are lazy grow the pro time. Were trying to let you know. I don't know I'm not good with that art useful to be apart. I look at you give the rest of his title. Do you WanNa make after the right amount next. I'm I'm thirty zero Reindeer to kill tablet. How gray hair represents wisdom? Also I gotta be honest. I am extremely excited to introduce our special guest for today. I am Mansell's I this rubber bookstore readings by Tomio Unit. Tony where it on a rack. Obama's inauguration Alaska DC. Put them on my shoulders. Hooters you by that's love. That's my around respect understatement. Real mad proactive rash. Your family lawyer representing women loving community oriented Occa-. Say about him because he is trying to be honest down to Earth His show love everybody around Guy Antonio Rafael Southwest Detroit. Instagram older South West. Jesus in the building behind by guys they book book will grow. He's doing too much of a slow. I slept in today leg. Really Nice Guy. Yeah I think I did. I did charter shining over there. Yeah got got the light game gone over here. Real quick Are Female audience is jumped thousand percent. This dude is on your super star wearing the WIG. Bet for a when I had here hear was that Nice guys. Here is still not shooting like advertisements so now like about L. Assume like what's up anybody out there who was dragged type of habitats demille. He'll be those represented law so big. Antonio we start off each shell by program That's Kinda like the intro and in Louis gotta go from there. You are big on Politics. You big on everything environment. Maple SYRUP CHICKENS ANTONIO. It WON'T BE FOR. It is but you give us your view or your take on him to drop out of the race. What does that mean for? The Democratic Party is far as our options. In whatever of US Catherine I mean I guess I personally I would like to see Bernie run third party in like Trump and the biden because trump and biden. There's a definite difference between the two of them like give you a terrible person for the Supreme Court. The number one argument that liberals have for supporting by So like there's a point there Biden Biden is a piece of shit dog like so. He's from Connecticut Bright Connecticut. I want to say I want to double check that real quick. Could you say Q? Know said they say year fearing like half they needed they was a random check him that he knows everything. Okay so he's Pennsylvania. See Drinker for you. So he's he's got elected in Delaware. Anyway it's wherever he was elected from. That's basically we're all the credit card. Companies are so like in the nineties eighties when they are doing all sorts of reform to protect consumers. Sorry I was. I was still working on this stupid facebook issue. Yes he is holed up in Connecticut. That is his home state. Yeah so like he represents like so where he comes from. The credit card companies are super powerful in super strongly way basically worked for them for you know how his son by duck the guy in trouble because he was working for an oil company while Biden was helping overthrow The Ukrainian government is son was working for the credit card companies. The same time Biden was passing legislation to fuck up consumers and to support the credit credit card companies by he's a historic perpetual perennial piece of Shit. He like during the big on tough on crime era when the Democrats had this quote unquote southern strategy. That that saw Bill Clinton beating up Jesse Jackson that saw like a Biden was apart Su he helped write a Lotta this tough on crime legislation. He helped pass like welfare. Reform helped write legislation that like ensured that students would have their debt forever. That students couldn't like declare bankruptcy and drop their debt Let's see what else biding he? Beat up a hill original metoo. Black woman she Intern for Clarence. Thomas Verse Black Supreme Court Justice in he was a sexual harasser Like Biden beat up on her verbally. I mean like you can't take one issue in find out like where Biden hasn't had a terrible ass record on the issue was crazy to me. Like trump is going to be taking the the. He's going to be fighting. Democrats with more democratic message on trade and a more democratic message on criminal justice reform in this election. Trump is going to be hitting us from the left on these issues because Biden is such a piece of shit. I hope is that Democrats replace Biden at the convention because Biden can't talk for more than two minutes without like get geriatric and leg dement like got dementia and dementia. There's no doubt about it. I mean you do it on. Tv like really bad. And that's why they've been hiding his ass and like the FBI trying to uplift newsom and they've been trying to uplift cuomo because they're looking for a neoliberal alternative for Biden Biden is not mentally competent. Enough we're talking about like Ronald Reagan in his second term sort of demented. You know what I'm saying like just not they're meant that's that's the best hope. Our best chances of the Democrats placed in by themselves. But if we're counting on the Democrats do the right thing is not a good guy. And I've been a lifelong say that from my I come from a union family. My Dad was heavily union stuff most of my life but I also recognize the Democrats been stopping Might as well so it's like Yeah I'm I'm really upset. I'm really not confident invited. I'm convinced that the Democrats want to lose the trump if you want to lose. The trump biden is a candidate. You put up. Because he zero. His chances of defeating trump are so miniscule compared to Bernie Sanders. Finally anybody who try and tell you that the Democrats are the democratic election and the People Chokes Ernie. Fuck no the people into his burning the At chose Bernie the people who are registered Democrats Primary elections they were open in. Anybody could vote. But in most of the primary elections it was only Democrats. Do in the voting. That's different than what's going to happen. The general election in the general election It's a different story. Muslim my light but yeah those are some initiative side definitely opened the not doing a lot too late zone. That's why Biden is a conversation about a possibly moving out of having a democratic Convention this year. Maybe I think they intentionally went for Wisconsin. Because they know Bernie has a conscience Bernie terrible for them having to primary because they have during the pandemic crazy. That's the main reason Ernie tapped out. Because he's man can't. I can't be part of forcing this conversation forward. But yeah in terms of the convention. I don't know the guy. I haven't studied that it looked into like democratic matching nations. I imagine Can actually would probably help him. But I hope the Democratic Party wakes up and that they're running shitty candidate. I gotta be honest with you out of the people who want to anybody but Biden to win support. Everybody who really wants to change. The however democratic told people town over the Biden was he has the puck bounce that Kuhn knee up now. I knew she was wrong. It is hard. He learnt really entering politics politics. So it's like we still like trump would in that case estimates. You're putting up Greg note while the Reagan Need some x not. You'll be right now spicy so outside. Of course you got the big topic i WanNa know what your thoughts are. As far as the virus will impact. Beauty Lies. So you know doing Shirley nitrous different households. Just think something like that. In House of x dream you had a little back and forth about The impact squad implementing green light to oversee the unity More familiar green light from Because one store so greenland is a program. Where basically you get a green light from your business on your transfer business right and basically silent with comcast comcast with his amorous legal scholars. Go to my neighborhood. Antonio's neighborhood Listen reminds apartment. Building was a partake in a program would have believed that direct access to the cameras. So let's say something takes place. Is Your Business. The beliefs delivery tap anti because Using private green lights monitored if areas where people are a group league other Antonio way about it after another type of way about it in the moment. I think that it's actually not the worst idea I do. Y- being monitored by police or by government on is a scary idea but I also was riding down yesterday Bikers seven eleven layer amusing having to get together so what virus in housing city? Yeah I would urge everybody who listens as pack as a follow a green light. Black futures is the page on instagram. It's run by a lot of people who are kind of part of B. Y. P. One hundred and some people who left B. Y. P. One hundred Really Awesome Community Organization. Accuse lead Super Dope But let's talk about current lessons talk about Project Greenlight since you brought it up you serve so essentially. It's like mass surveillance being put into your communities are one in that we have to recognize about a Detroit is Detroit as the black. It's major city needs our country. It is Added according to the two thousand. Ten cents is seven hundred thousand of black people mostly black people. Eighty percent black Major. There's some cities elasticities of some type owns that actually blacker than Detroit the blackest major city the average income of the entire. St Of Detroit is twenty six hours a year. The average income of Oakland County just north of detritus treatise seven thousand dollars a year. You cut out seventy to eighty thousand dollars a year. How three times. The average income of the city of Detroit that entities in Oakland County such as Bloomfield hills were the average income. Is Three hundred eighty six thousand dollars a year? Okay so you have to understand like Detroit in the context of a geography. That is extremely racially and class. Segregated to the point that they've concentrated poverty into the Detroit area is in particularly into the communities. I'm where there are less services more liquor stores more bullshit Also very briefly add onto this broader context of where Detroit is that It's two thousand twelve years after the two thousand eight financial crisis in which in that time since two thousand ten or so in the last ten years around one hundred eighty to two hundred thousand detroiters who have lost their homes because of tax foreclosures re repossessions of homes. Up of that you add the fact that about one hundred twenty thousand people have had their water shut off in the last Three to five years on top of that we had a Detroit public school system. That around two hundred thousand today. It has forty thousand students. They pass legislation so that every kid is worth seven thousand dollars so the suburbs have opened up other accepting our students in our tax dollars. The the suburbs are predators parasites. They live off of Detroit. So Additional Tax Detroit is has been led by a black mayor black leadership for a long. That's also part of why they have now with Detroit governments to ill with the structural nature of Detroit's debt and one way road of the project. All that is to say only not shut up all that is to say since the crisis the suffer injected their candidate mayor white dug in and he became the Mayor of Detroit and he's been working for the companies that Detroit Dan. Gelber who is like the biggest? Richest capitalists are Mr George Burns from Simpson's he owns like all of downtown runs. Detroit runs the sports teams. Basically duggan works for the herbs in works for the rich people who owned most of the city And it's his administration that like helped choose the emergency manager. Literally Fifty Percent Michigan population lost democracy after the two thousand eight financial crisis because of the same structural segregation issues all around the state in which they government and the local capitalists are stealing resources from people so given context of Detroit being occupied by the white suburbs and taking over project. Greenlight is representation of this okay on top of that. I have a pamphlet for this shit somewhere. But there's a program Paul Detroit one Detroit. One is a combination of the federal government. Atf DA FBI St Louis County. is local sheriff's and off of their prosecutors. Fast forwarding warrants. That's called a. It's called a violent crime initiative this what they call it but they're basically sweeping out. Detroit of anybody who's not a warrant in impoverished city as we discussed the average income is twenty six thousand dollars year for me. My car insurance is three hundred. Three hundred dollars a year thirty percent of detroiters have parents right now. Detroiters have warrants for petty as little as crimes right for like not showing up to court for not paying tickets for the suburbs. We have like four Bergerson light type white suburban communities who prey on black people driving through the pay for police departments. Structurally broke right now. Because they're too scared to come talk to us that they windows right now alarm love this like Nano cops have enough to harass anybody moment right now. Because I haven't pulled over a couple of weeks the nice I feel safe driving to the forest around destroyed but all that say is Detroit's being occupied and then to bring in a aga- security surveillance apparatus. I had one more fact on top of this on top of the Detroit one which is fast forty. Four instant pudding black and Brown people in jail. I'll put two more Michigan's entire communism propped up marijuana since of when we made we'd legal huge huge huge huge everybody's dope boys every Sunday. Everybody's growing weed and Detroit. Just cute sweeping in rated one hundred and fifty hop growers in pot shops throughout the city. So they're cracking down on black entrepreneurship. cracking down on black homeownership. They're cracking down on black public schools. They're cracking down on all of the things that make Detroit majority black powerful city is one more policy that also is So there's not the so basically okay the surveillance so basically like these Detroit trade one cameras and the many thousands of other cameras most many of which were put up. That Uber Dan. Gilbert was straight up putting cameras wherever he wanted to downtown buildings he didn't even on in Dan. Gilbert set up a security infrastructure. So that all of the camera feeds come to one center that Dan Gilbert runs. I mean Dan Gilbert is like. I'm working on comic book. I'm GonNa let the lips. Outpatient was I'm working on a comic book where Dan Gilbert is Batman as like a white savior of Detroit because like Batmans Eagle. Batman is truly evil. If you watch all the comic books into cartoons Batman owned the electrical infrastructure he all sewer system on the trains. I mean what the fuck is that like preparing you for monopoly ownership by one person's crazy up into say. I want to give the alternative respect because private green light man. The small business owner has to choose to to have that right so it's not like the pay the pay the pay any laws have to choose to be a part of the program right on and I was in majority black. Living with the civil mile knows vast avenue. I'm home at the time of the largest black owned business city right and I would say ninety percent business over APP relax infertile annum. Agri will allow which is saying but the system doesn't work in less than small businesses designed to put us to come part of it and that has to do with all those other elements kind of sneak into right now right so that's my personal life. If choosing to have it in a reason and I get it into a lot of things that are happening outside the city over the past two years the citizens of the position but who knows who owns a liquor stores restored land. That's now the ends you write little league middle. East Lewis is not as source elevated seventy five businesses in. This area have happening from since you like the least or something like that in front of civil so there's hell examples already. There's newspaper articles about this project is not going to save any of you. Business people it's not coming to save you but what it is going to do is get whoever was fucking around in front of your place in trouble later. That's what it's going to do After the project there's nobody sitting there so this thousands of cameras all over the city. You think there's a bunch of people monitoring them in anytime like somebody gets stuck up shop. Intense is because they are saved by project like no chance of the waivers is called beliefs. They have automatic. They have a way to tap into your camera so they can start using surveillance No they're all tapped in there all tapped in and they will jump into camera. Look after you but it's not going to protect anybody. It's not going to save anybody would it's GonNa do is get people in trouble. Afterwards for the crimes they commit is going to hold. People was GONNA put into the mass incarceration system in a city that again as the average income toy six month fuckers be robbing people. Sometimes I'm not defend. That has good shit like I almost been robbed before. Like it's really about how you carry yourself leg. I feel safe Edwards each walk anywhere Detroit. I'M NOT GONNA address to my mind. Nine walk around some neighborhoods but I feel safe in Detroit. Yeah I mean who who doesn't feel SAFE IN DETROIT? All the new people moving in where are all these cameras being located mostly around some of these way gentrifying areas? This may lie. People feel safe and secure in new Detroit. Takeover dug in administration in its total bullshit. This is this is his opinion upright. You see more green lights in communities outside midtown. The downtown downtown downtown amid cow. Got All the Dan Gilbert cameras protecting they asses this most thousand cops and the cops downtown to realize in the communities where people yeah people have been fooled into thinking that green light is going to save them. But I think if you've been rivaled that issue on which you want to have additional layers of protection you will feel safe honest. Everybody listening Don't judge me is my fucking gun. You don't feel protected at home another safe and I know that but I lived here ten years plus now missing twenty years saving for a house I need to. I need to be on right now because if not carry. You know where you're going you know. We don't have any issues Be Honest. I've never had any issues city. Must Smart you. You just can't walk like victim. That's the number one thing you can't look in wildlife the victim really walking around like This is like pleasantly saves if you have like a a an attitude of somebody who's easily victimize -able you might bureau as Boos de Eastern. It's the white boy. I think it was like home schooled or something like that. This fool got a three times in Atlanta victim. He he just looked like his. He had a sign on his back. That's arrived me. I'm not GONNA do shit. I'd like Google. I I empathize with store owners and people who are here like dangerous economic times with like massive inequality like the bigger picture is structural poverty. You know that's really what like all this amounts to is like we talk about how to deal with poverty in how we're dealing with. Poverty is evicting people closing in public resources. Things that help poor people in pushing them out of the city for are the. They can't afford raising rents in the gentrifying neighborhood. The only stable viable neighborhoods quote unquote and then pushing them into into into precarious communities in situations in stories. So we need a whole system work around you. Can't you're not gonNA like a can't expect Duggan or anybody WHO's running this project? Greenlight to like have a functional way to deal with mass incarceration private green light is certainly our In a punitive way that pushes for surveillance maths incarceration. You gotta add that on there. Also I would also say to that I feel a lot of the people who are having rights with the business. Don't have anyway our be. The real touchy to- episode. I talked about the corner store having product. They don't make on you know I went to. I went to Switzer. I went to Switzerland for some real white sheet to say I went to Switzerland. One time in a I. I did some graffiti. I got really kind of popular the graffiti I did. I was invited to speak at this artist. There Unlike vending machines all of the city that like essentially replaced like liquor stores like they sell like a beer they sell like condoms they sell like shaving is this is crazy. Every there's a site is better structured like we don't need like a thousand candy varieties too much all the sugar bullshit like ours Backwards with the way. The government funds support sugar supports big corporations supports the ten major fucking food companies that supply all the process. Bullshit that's in our stores or burbs is a mess purpose a booth. You just like a black blob on your life. You can't see no facial features. Yeah he got the light behind them purpose. Like the funding bill or some crazy. We need like that a quote from Josey Wales could have the Sun Bekker's relying on talk about Emily Barton realize because it's depressing green light to monitor different situations. In Different Arnaud Liquor Stores. Obeys nations as far as crown does basically. They're using green light to monitor. Were Black. People are accumulating so they can bust them up and not allow people to like hang out in public. Which to me is some or wary. Love would you? Would you agree that people need to stop hating definitely at at the moment right now given what we know yes given or aware of giving like the science of things? I don't we need to research more figure this shit out more but Detroit really properly. Detroit is again like it's a much bigger issue. That like like not congregating is taking care of because Detroit has what you call a lot of co morbidity. He's Co morbidity or other things so like we got a lot of asthma. We got a lot of diabetes. We gotTA hypertension. We got a lot of Like medical issues that are going to push you into dying quicker. So that's that's the reason that diseases running rampant throughout Detroit is the poverty the working class nature of our community. We have to work to pay bills whereas like people who don't who worked for nonprofits over for whatever they could work from home we're stuck going out into the world working all these like health issues many of which are related to the liquor stores many of which are related to the poverty many related to the pollution this year so we got all these co morbidity is that are causing us to a die in suffer from corona at a high high rates so what a and on what was hersant. Yes people will if if if I really feel for in the crisis is like parents dog like. That's one thing like I feel privileged lucky amaze not to have any fucking kids though like having to deal with a bunch of board as a house locked up for like weeks on end. Not Trying to find babysitters China work. Damn self like parents are fucking superheroes through all this shit like doing it up. So if instant Detroit or in the Metro Detroit area but mostly Detroit you know. Detroit DIAPER DOT DETROIT HYPER BANK DOT COM. So check that out in like basically the diaper bank is Nations from huggies and a bunch of diaper places in their distributing diapers to various locations throughout the city. Were you can schedule in. Pick it up but you gotta go to that website but yeah we were just basically helping. They got a ton of donations so they called for people to come. Support Them My Boy Donovan mckinney. Who's a really awesome black organized with Sti you? He hit me up because we've been distributing water in other mutual aid stuff so he hit me up in a bunch of us Volunteers here for distributing divers. I came day. I continue to volunteer within the following. Two and Yeah I haven't around delivering diapers today. I was in a a U haul. Truck now what are you what you tell us a little bit about what she do normally is for us at nine to five because I think probably be read on this and kill too because I know he worked to develop races with right now. Yeah I would like to hear about that too. Basically a so the last four years before I got this last job I was like independent. I was doing lectures. Sta My background's economics. That's why like I got all his dad's numbers because Economic Analysis is a big part of like. Why am what I do I study? He can put up signs in college when I met Booze A big focus of mine was international. Stuff's in the history of the United States. Latin America was a big part of my education focus. And like I I was. I was doing a lot of lectures around Detroit's a bankruptcy process. The watershed off are in community policing in resistant for the past. Four or five years while independent hustling lectures and shit. Like that. I've been doing a lot of little contracting jobs in a lot of volunteering Graduated from Eastern Michigan in two thousand twelve. Just as Detroit was going into bankruptcy. I started throwing down with detroiters resisting. Emergency manage a coalition organization of. We had the police. We had the firemen. We had a pensioners we had all these all these community organizations at the table to fight against emergency management. We were shutting down streets in front of city council just really turned in the fuck up against emergency management for those who don't know. Emergency Management is basically like financial dictatorship over the city like Take structural economic issues in make people individually responsible for them a steal people's pensions. So I bought in that fight. That's bankruptcy process took two years. It was very fast. The works shifted over to water protection in stopping water shut offs because on combat. I don't want to bore you with the details. But the water system in Detroit is the biggest in the country is served six million people in the entire metropolitan area plus flint And they essentially like the governor and his Financial Manager was trying to privatize system for make look good. They wanted to see that revenue will come in so they start cutting off court people's water up straight up turning it was water on we were destroyed up like taken a tool Turning people should on but we were also advocating stop those waters shut offs and make water affordable. If you six thousand dollars a year in you got a two thousand dollar water bill. That's damn near ten percent of your income crazy. That's like no that's unreasonable. There's no way water should pay to play to win. Itami Oh as you said. Early artists on two big pieces out all locally. This point one will be the hour. This was on the water tower. Drove into trey right. He added that economize was written on. Who took cut dozens of buildings and Wire Towers two thousand twelve to two thousand fourteen? Fifteen real prominence role into downtown came into where I was on a CPA building in between southwest Detroit and courtown have throughout the city amount. Max does NATO pieces throughout the respect the unity and cultural Culture of yourself and I I wanted to say to me like you are men of mini l like I know communist it now but I'm thoroughly impressed with kind were able to juggle detain different careers on the past ten years man. Because you're going real big now as far as the j let me much. Yeah so yeah so I got arrested in two thousand fifteen painting. Free the water on a water tower Hash tag free. You'll see it was a it was it. Was the water tower at Davidson. In seventy five big white one in it off of that sort of like a broader context of like a white dug in Iraq in in taking graffiti started his graffiti task force. fucked up sperm trying to do little storytelling on that issue but Graffiti Task Force is definitely some like broken windows policing sort of stuff which is like a philosophy that came out of New York if you fix. The broken windows fixed the underlying us. He's so doug so there were so few police allocated throughout the city that By Two Thousand Eight ten eleven Detroit. Graffiti It was covered in graffiti. It was crazy super crazy. I am not a good way either. It was too much as people were reckless paint in businesses. And Shit like that. I was at the Google video. Art Is my most of my graffiti was Social Justice stuff. You know what I'm saying so like I I barely qualifies a graffiti artist. I'm more of a street artist. Probably like a lot of graph heads would probably not say. I'm a real graphic artist. I wasn't like painting my name. Everywhere else painting messages against various issues rows Arrested in two thousand fifteen for painting. Free the tower there was threaten. Us dollar fine two years in jail Whole BUNCH OF PEOPLE. Organize the help us. How we beat our case That was But like I really like between two thousand twelve and two thousand fifteen. I got really tired of social activism. Shit Rescue my fucking life In my freedom for And at the same time there was a couple like really shitty. Social Justice organizers. Who were like you know? Tell them by work for the FBI like on some real dumb shit like the identity. Politics was super out of control. Each hours I was done with the in two thousand fifteen so in two thousand sixteen. I moved over to organic agriculture. I studied at the student. Ganic Farm Training Program of Msu Really Program Shot South student. Organic Farm Training Program That for a year worked on a farm for Europe there And I came back in. Troy. I helped start a community garden called. Southwest grows. That's basically my house in my neighborhood. I live right next door to where I grew up in. Southwest Detroit and Yeah I mean I garden in keys into outdoor should in this area in two thousand seventeen or a A bunch of US got together in in Co founded this organization called Black In it's kind of like a coalition of groups who were interested in doing outdoor shit Honestly as a lot of single was in some in some Babas who are like really about it and We basically organized camping trips and outdoor experiences for families We also with the food in organizing the resources So black to help co found for so Off The tracks of that work with the National Wildlife Federation which is a conservation organization? They're a big national organization. Started a program called the Detroit Leadership Environment Education Program in Basic Napa School Program where take kids outdoors and introducing the nature seasonal harvesting foraging agriculture in environmental issues so On the backside of everything this entire time I've been engaged environmental issues because in southwest Detroit were dealing with a lot of pollution Engaged environmental issues. Everybody alarming fool like arm. Unity destroyed is so connected from the bar. You know what I mean. Michigan has me. What a beautiful areas you can go to. The world was The the natural habitat. You'll what's your relationship to nature I will say this being able to connect got brewers on like I could use apple I used to love walking on the grass with my bare feet. You know what I mean when I was. I used to love to dig holes outside. I have a handle agency but outside where it was like to be indoors into it being outdoors outdoors as far as like on the street but actually in the fucking was a natural surrounding Housed time country. Boy From Arkansas. Put it up anyway right and it's about like when you put your bare feet on the grass as a film that you get this different than like your bare feet on your wooden floor inside the house. You know what I mean and I was like that relationship with time Chinese as I got older to get this necessary and I was curious while the actual similar maybe early you do you think that people still have relations with our our unsated fucking all night into trey not unique kind jungle free. I mean I think personally the way that we are nowadays where he'd seen inside more often and that was intended by intent like they know the power of her will be announced that being more in touch with nature walking barefoot being in the sun especially for Mellon native people. They understand the power in that. So I mean this is all intent like the advent of the internet or video games console big being indoors for a kid like they. They have their own fantasy. Were like gotTa leave your room doing our lead it ruins the superheroes whereas whereas we were skiing like especially like as you point out. I'm the oldest other the the group we we sat outside like we wanted to go outside. The only thing that kept indoors was Saturday morning cartoons. But soon as actually it was over we was outside Brooks and your Mama hats find. You came home for food water. My parents at growth we was. Don't the hood the whole hood is I won't come home. White water hose baby was up I remember one. What are you also get out of here? I ruined too. I feel like back in a day. You know we will weigh more plug in but nowadays totally disconnected the average person. That is I know a Lotta people personally. Who May go for Spent a Lotta time still to this day with the average person I mean degrees which Got Work to out in a second here as on but you hadn't. He wears in in abroad. Ask that because what What you're doing right now is basically pluckily kids with a make sure to some extent you know what I mean. Are you actively fake you out into the woods having different? I would like to hear from US and kill like what a relationship John have to the forest to like state park parks around Detroit Chicago camping. You see it like that like I mean. There's there's a lot of nature in Detroit still like even no matter what I would like to hear what Giles relationship with back. Because I think that's that's a good point when I was growing up. We have the Mall Berry Bushes in the backyard. We fruit-growing off the trees knowing. That part's all the net in missing actually need to integrate. That back in some art lifestyle. I just be so busy. You know will work whatever I need to get back to. Thank you for those reminders. That was a that was a normal part much out of there but we had a pear tree in the backyard. So we we got here of summer fall spring My parents my mom. We was heavy. Insignificance at parks ought to different parts. Natural parts so as a gear rove being in the water being out during the summertime Viking like I wanted a mom's like she wanted you out the house so soon as nine teenage in the morning. Bro We outside. I'll Saturday mornings and we did come back into eight nine o'clock and I was. Which was y'all favorite parks Man Now I parked in Reus. Reus Park was straight Rosedale. Fire Calc a little mini playground community area being inner appeal and appeal. Do some parts. Also by Moore in Belarus in terms of leg where the concentration in Belarus are the biggest biggest ones like biggest floor. So I remember feeding the deer on Belle isle. Grown up that big ASS slot. They I remember the zoo. Really little so show Fisher. You can actually. You could actually get into the zoo. There's a there's A. There's a trail that I found when I was hiking with booze walking our dogs. You break into the zoo. It's pretty sweeter abandoned. But it's like crazy people being. I wasn't Antonio military crawl through a whole side of the gate. Aznar like twenty five minutes. I could not find this cat for those. But it is beautiful place man in the past three years out of appreciate. It is just a quick funny story. excellent is on this past summer. I to a France boys fishing. Two Boys Right. You boys are in high school graduate this year in his two major Max warm on all right so in Michigan the state of Lakes Ray. Green lights wasn't been too late right in high school hadn't been too late to could the timing of Detroit right. Ideals ARE INTELLIGENT. Boys that the the funniest held the Weiss and it was just crazy. These two boys and I get like the Fisher piece. I can to go fishing. Activision will buy socks. Rammer kid on the facilities understood but the fact that had never made it to a Laker for was like fucking beyond me. Yummy fees Fisher. This but just to say that I brought it up just to speak to. Why is so important that you do what you do? As far as hell Gregory's basis in interim snow. Here's the Different different activities outdoors outdoors but in the forests in as even Maple Syrup. The past two months now Up and he is also a Will come out of that. Yeah Sought Simultaneously Building Lot relationship with a native peoples throughout the Great Lakes areas. Learn how tap maple trees from Couple of years back has been following checking it out Also been into other types of foraging mushroom foraging. Herb foraging some flowers and shit like that still like. It's it's an extension out of that sort of leg work. Is this idea that we should be eating seasonally. We should be like engaged in physical natural activities throughout the year. And if you like look at like the way the initial folks lived So initially people are the indigenous people of the Great Lakes There the powder wad the Dowa. The Agip Way and they lived were in the summer. They'd be up north of farming. Catching fish donate thing in a go to that separate in going to like a hunting lodges. Were they like hunt for me? Winter Spring they'd go into these camps that were sugarbush camps where like the entire community will come together in like tap into maple trees sugar maple trees collect this APP. Boil it down. Sugar MAPLE SUGAR NOT SYRUP So for me like Maho APPS. This winter has been like winter sports. Not just for white people like I. I want to exercise be outside. I want to see the beauty of Michigan in winter up north in northern Michigan. They these ICE CAVES. Super Gorgeous Will you go cross country skiing? Ugo shoot snowshoeing. If you I mean there are places the DNR lens out the stuff or rents them very cheaply but like yeah man like that actually In Rouge Park. They actually groomed cross country skiing. Trails is the first year. I think they started doing that. So like I started doing all that shit this year. I went snowboarding for the first time in office. Had me feeling so good? This winter doglike winter is a tough time in. Detroit because you shut in a house corona like it's like yours locked up in a crib is salty wet nasty in like getting into nature and wintertime's powerful and beautiful. It gave me like the physicality coming in spring. That needed to focus on the sugarbush in that should exhausting. Like basically like you. We set up refers three days. We had Brother come out in my cup of started up but like you wait for the season to go to where it's freezing at nighttime in above freezing in the days above thirty two degrees in that you drill holes in a maple trees your metal spinal tap in tap had a rubber a hose. That went down into a bucket in the winter. Weather was nice. Those trees was running and they were putting out like half a day again. Our number have gone to like a half. They they fill up a half gallon of five gallon bucket in a couple of days. What are they saying about? The title. Experience was the was the takeaway. Yeah I mean like so we work with Detroit. Public school students were also with one charter school and they're just like happy to chop wood because you had to chop wood feed the fire to boil it down. And they're they're happy to be connected with the seasons Most of them didn't know how to identify trees. So we walk around identifying which are the sugar maples and that's also really powerful experience being able to name republics in the connect with my boy Jerry who came down as To which I think is really cool. I think a lot of people think native people are GonNa gone or dead or some shit like that so they really enjoyed that too So yeah I mean. There's they're just happy thankful to be to be outside a powerful. I mean a lot about healing grownup city. Getting an opportunity to get out in nature like him in connecting which feed in the soil. Smell the earth and it's definitely like healing work is reconnecting work because that's who we are for millions of years that we come from indigenous peoples in Africa our world and we would diseases connected with nature but this time under Christianity and colonialism. That we've been having are disconnected. I mean Chris very much so like take sequel shit like the winter solstice Christmas saying like Easter is like the equinoxes in what I'm saying like all these holidays that are absorbed in Christianity. They basically had all these clinical pagan holidays which were basically people who ritualized the connection with nature In the took that and made it into Christianity to absorb to indigenous Pagan people and put them under Christianity. The council control of Latin asked Rome so we gotta get Davis Games to wrap it up with a request relation to that. I'm listen to cooking gene by Michael Sleep right. Excellent Excellent fucking basically Reconnect is cultural history to the cooking. You know what I mean. So he goes back to Ghana. He goes back to Places and on a large suicide in that book is learning or face actual origin over with And the different terminology. Reconnects who was is heresy by learning so to s s with boot itself in the actual plants. Themselves and Is kind of re-inspire me to delegate. How could and Mike Nationally Food in the land? I live on. They give us the wrap it up man. I wanted to thank you. I won't be very of dementia noticing episode. Ten for US was really big deal episode. Most podcast on the ten episodes right out of the bay. Because we didn't we know that we'll be able to be heard what would happen in the future president which along talk Laco. I'd top hands much next on. Show fut- you wrap it up button every and everything whatever. These spokesman are thinking just interesting topics and it's never get a pound of this war because you are somebody who is a leader right and Somebody we will only team here. We love you always loved the message. State one Elliott to me own to kill you down this now. Many appreciate appreciate. Antonio Average Edgy Bro. Tell you for sure for everything through the podcast. Bro. I'm follow you outside of our casts. We need social activists like you'd have fight for us so much love marshmallows likewise presented to the CNA if ready all listening to this CNA crew back from eastern in. But thank you dave for standing the wings and looking back the hidden your time as always great. Dude I love these Schatz. Thank you thank you and joy into their Barbara Speaks these guys.

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Pop Culture Cosmos #205- The 20 Most Popular Films In Our Top 100(ish) Movie Countdown!

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Pop Culture Cosmos #205- The 20 Most Popular Films In Our Top 100(ish) Movie Countdown!

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At Barnes and noble dot. COM AMAZON DOT COM, the NOOK and the kindle. It is my good friend. It is Josh Peterson. What's up man longtime those see yeah. What's up what's up which a part of this podcasting marathon you know absolutely when I told you I had to do back to back and I couldn't be able to go ahead and record recorded. So we're GONNA have to be back back. You're like my ga Yeah I grown just maybe a little bit longer than that. Does a he ever seen Bob's Burgers Tina A. Well. We are GONNA have a great show today because we are going to go ahead and countdown the finalist. I. Know We kind of put it off a little bit that was for a special reason because he wanted to compacted into one episode is the top twenty. Five number twenty already top twenty or top one, hundred ish movie countdown Josh. We're going to go into detail on a lot of these movies and have a great conversation in doing so and have a fun time. Hopefully, you'll be able to go and enjoy it. These are movies once again that. Guys and Gals. Followers and listeners and viewers of the pop culture. Cosmos. You've got a chance to go ahead and vote upon what would be your time. You gave us your top ten lists. And we gave you two point value like your number. One was ten points all the way down to number ten, which is one point. That we tallied all those movies up. Not Everything May. List. We had one hundred four that actually made the list goes therefore tied at one hundred. So we're going to go ahead and break it down as far as the movies that are covering the final top twenty inter list of the top one hundred ish. Be countdown are you excited my friend I? Mean it's been a long time did a lot of hard work. We steer updating it on the pop culture cousins Dot Com and a written for trying to catch up to that but it was a long process for us my friend but finally we're here in an audio form. Yes, we've made it. You the. Award show. Yes we should be. We need We need to borrow some sports crowd music from the a discussed this with. John you know. Just. Yes I'll mean you are I mean you are but I will tell you what my friend I'm excited for because it's finally here the day that we're going to go ahead and break down everything for you on the top one hundred ish movie countdown. So have you got your list my friend got the ascension. have. Liz. Okay. I WanNa make sure 'cause you know. This is a list that I think a lot of people with these bubis cut will at least some point in time they've there's going to be a movie they're like, yeah that's one of my favorites I like that one or yeah I don't know what they were thinking. Somebody must be on just some type of drugs man. They might be the right time to tell everyone that every movie on this list is actually the rise. Skywalker so I mean, yeah, I don't know if you want to now. Now we're just going to be an hour long conversation about the rise of skywalker though it isn't stop please. Don't turn off people turn off but. I WANNA go ahead and give a big shout out to everyone out there that took the time to create a top ten to go ahead and send it into. US truly appreciate it. Also want to give a big shout out to bill. Thank you again for the nice email that you sand I got it and tell you what, I, truly appreciate your thoughts and support on our previous shows as well. Want to give you a big heads up getting everybody else out there if you want to go ahead and saint comments to us, please go ahead and do. So today pop culture was at Yahoo Dot com also pop culture cosmos on twitter facebook. INSTAGRAM. Man. COMEDIA- game source same thing, and then of course, now, pop culture cosmos on Tiktok share your thoughts with us on your favorite movies. We'd love to hear from you and be able to go ahead and interact with you right here at the pop culture cosmas. Delayed a little bit long enough right delay long enough for whatnot. So suspenseful music is that. Dune opponent. to, talk, to him. And inception ready inception soundtrack Wong. what's next Dunkirk Okay we're good. Yeah. Well, let's go ahead and start off on the list with number twenty. Again, I know we said on previous show, but this was probably the most oddball for me we that's there is a nineteen fifties movie. The good humor man I think for me the most identifiable aspects I did see a couple of scenes from it to check it out was the original Superman George Reeves the one from the TV show way back when when it's black and white. So this was a movie that kind just stood out as far as people voting on it and the good humor man is at number twenty I know you couldn't say much on it Dan I know Josh you're not gonna be able to say much about it now, but it's funny how that movie just of all the movies on the list of the top one hundred at stuck out the most. Is. The good humans before he tells a joke, he stops and looks both ways just see who's around him or his his superpower at the inner the just knowing that there's nobody around him. Really or disagree with that statement. Haven't seen. The haven't seen the movie. If it's if it's really like in the top twenty though maybe it's worth checking out so. To. Road on the list here, Donna a list that list is getting pretty long my friend as the good humor man at number twenty. Nineteen is a movie I believe you have probably seen because we have talked about it before the show another one of those tear jerker movies from Pixar it's the movie up. So before I go ahead and tell you my thoughts on it, I want to hear your thoughts on the movie up. It. Made me cry. Grown men don't do that. But Pixar movies. It was. It was it was said. It was one of those things like I'm surprised at how sad it was for kids movie honestly like there is something in there for everybody like anyone who has ever lost a grandparent or watched like a grandparent like live alone like that. Really. It's home for you and for me and you know what made it even worse not worse. But like what really like pound gave you the emotional punch in the face was the fact that there were dogs in this movie and you know that's almost cheating in its own right but oh my gosh, it's such a great film. Very sad but it is a really really great film. That's up at number nineteen number eighteen. My friend is one that you're familiar with as I am. I think it was a really good movie. It was one of Tom Hanks's better performances but not his best but I think he did such a great job with it abroad. So many different things like I love Robertson Meka's all cinematography of the film especially the running scenes. It's forrest gump. And especially the teams where he goes ahead and runs across America, I just love those scenes of course, just the history that the timeframe. Evolves as far as and brings in on these montages, things from all over that happened and how forrest gump was supposedly a part of it. So I want to hear thoughts on forrest. Gump. So. This was one I didn't watch till later on in life. My Dad's a huge fan of this movie. He always likes to go to bubba Gump's the shrimp lace and like they always do that science. Yeah if you need a refill, you flip the scientist says run forrest run or whatever it is. But my dad's a huge fan of this movie I. I. Think it really captured a moment in time. You know I it. It's definitely I don't think it's a film you could get away with making today but it I can see you why it's such a classic film you know and it's IT'S A. To me, it's a it's something that I would have trouble watching again. But like it's there's so many things about this movie that are incredibly well done like I can see why it's taught. It's so widely. APPLAUDED EVEN TODAY summer eighteen s forrest gump. Number seventeen is a film I. Know You like we talked about on the PCC multi-diverse bit and something that is part of the backbone of Universal Studios. That is number Seventeen Rasic Park. So what are your thoughts because you have? so much more kind words. You an rob McCallum our good friend from rob. McCallum. Films. You guys. Both have such kind words about Jurassic Park. So I'm not exactly the best person to talk about it. I think you are much better person talk about it with number seventeen, Grassy Park. It is an absolutely magical film I mean who does not remember I remember this the first time I saw this movie I was. Gone Wipe is still gives me chills this very day. I was a kid and I had I was I. Think I was like six or seven in This movie came out I was on vacation and me and my dad went to go watch this movie. In the theaters and like he knew that I loved dinosaurs and like you just took a risk on the PG thirteen or eighty for me but. It was the first time that I had experienced the true magic of of movies even as an adult I, still feel that today like I've been going back through drastic park recently, and like that scene they're driving on the hilltop and they stopped the cars and they get out and they see the broncos sources and that the John Williams score plays I believe this was filmed at Colo Ranch I. was there last year I got a great shirt from it yet. I? I was there in the area in Hawaii where they filmed up those those scenes for it and you get that vibe you definitely get that vine. Feel, the magic and it it. I don't know. It's the first time. You know like I said, it's the first time in my life that I had ever experienced movies as an experience and not just something to kill time, and that's what I really appreciate about it. Again for me, I have been able to connect with it as much as other people, but still I appreciate it for what it is and what it's done for the industry, and that's again number seventeen Jurassic. Park. Number Sixteen. One of the best Western's I've ever seen. Do Wall Is. The good. The bad and the ugly is truly one of the Best Spaghetti Westerns. Of all time I, know once upon a time in the West, lot of people really think that was good. Now it's a really excellent film as well. This full of dollars, but for me the good, the bad and the ugly was truly a Classic Watch like I said one of the best if not, the Best Spaghetti Western than I have seen Eli Wallich's performance was tremendous. So I want to hear your thoughts on the good bad the ugly because that music know it when you hear it. And even you may not have seen the film. It's really something that people can connect with because it has that five of this is the mysterious dark good guy. This is the mysterious dark bad guy and this guy here in the middle that's trying to play off sides and a don't know which side he eventually on. It is. The I guess you can say the quintessential. Western flick as. It, kind of defiance Heaven Hell and purgatory in the middle when you really look at it. Right. Yeah. I like it has it it is. You know what people refer to it. It is what people reference when they talk about Westerns right you have your few great Western's you have the good the bad and the ugly the outlaw Josey Wales, you have tombstone. I would even go as far to say unforgiven could be one of those films. It has all the elements of what made the Western genres so great. Absolutely and that's number sixteen the good the bad and the ugly. 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It's kicked off this new wave, a star wars films, which some were glad to see them. We're not so glad to see. Obviously. A lot of people were going to give it a try at first because it garnered just over two dollars at the box office. wrinkly was okay. For me, it was okay. It let off a series of Okay Film Star Wars Universe ultimately culminating in. The Not so great star wars rise of skywalker. I WANNA. Say It is the most enjoyable. Of The star wars films that I have seen of this new batch twenty, fifty, nine, rogue one may be the best of them but all of them have their major flaws. So I want to hear your thoughts on Star Wars, the force awakens I probably, the easiest watch of all these newer star wars films that you could say that have been around since two, thousand, fifteen on. So, Star Wars the Force Awakens was the first movie in a long time. I was truly excited to watch. You know I thought that it was pretty top Tier Star Wars Film. and. I don't like what happened afterwards but you know this was like, I got the same vibe watching this as I watched guy with new hope like what is going to happen next and it was so cool to revisit this thing go back to the world is shocking when Han Solo die like it had all the things that. A Good Star Wars movie should have in than the stuff happened afterwards, and they honestly should have just let J.j Abrams have the entire trilogy because I think we would have gotten something a whole lot different from what we've received but I think that stars. Force Awakens is Pretty Good Star Wars movie. After Star Wars, the force awakens kind of went on a small step by step ladder leading to the final disappointment that is star wars the rise of Skywalker, and again I, agree with you one hundred percent had j.j Abrams been. The chance to go ahead and direct all three I think. The rise of Skywalker and the middle version whatever it would been called whether it's the last Jedi or somebody else would have been far entirely different as trilogies concern is he wouldn't has been the whole time ret conning though what happened in the previous film? Yeah I I think that having Rian. Johnson. Like a got a lot of people talking about star wars but I don't think that it was great publicity. It look at how much people are even the actors are just so beaten down on Star Wars. The fans are so beaten down on Star Wars like it John, Boyega has anything to do with the stars. Universities don't want anything to do. Yeah and like it, you talked anyone like Hana want anymore star wars, which is funny because we hadn't had star wars for like years. You know now like you have this beautiful opportunity and it was just Absolutely wasted and they took a property that people loved and respected and even worshiped in its own right and they just they dragged through the mud because they were trying to be Meta is the word like out there like it's not what you expect it to be. It's out there like that's what they're trying to do with that ended up by them in the bud like had j.j Abrams done the middle film think that we'd be seeing like a trilogy that's a lot different from what we're seeing right what what currently exists. And we'll have to wait and see what the long lingering effects of this because you and I've talked about the wall on the shows is what are the long lasting effects of the disappointments of the succeeding films In three or four years it's been delayed a year star wars. What are we going to get whether residuals were the expectations? They can't be what they were before because you have. What happened with stores Skywalker and you have the dispute Mr Dare. Generations now the younger on is like my kids. Kids around with you right now, what are their thoughts are going to be on star wars going forward will have the same kind of love. Those questions are now up for debate and it all emanated started with say, Star Wars, force awakens who and when and how it went as a series all downhill from there. What are your thoughts out there on what we're talking about so far the list shares thoughts pop culture cosmos at Yahoo Dot Com. Coming up next my friend at number fourteen on the top one hundred ish we'll, be countdown. You can't handle the truth by friend because a few good men is number fourteen on our lists all what are your thoughts on another Nicholson performance? Playing Jack Nicholson I'm going to have to hand the stage because I've never seen this movie before I've heard it quoted much like we talked about earlier but I have never seen it. Again. If you've seen one Jack Nicholson performance, it's truly great. But it is another one of the many Jack Nicholson performances that he plays Jack Nicholson. So if if you really are into what Jack Nicholson does as the general who just constantly defies enquiries from Tom Cruise, Demi Moore and in the characters there in the middle of the courtroom and all that because it led to a soldier staff and a very beginning to me, it's still a good film kind still holds up today I know was filmed so many years ago, but it still has its enduring value. Obviously, it's very well thought of because it's at number fourteen, our list. But Jack Nicholson I mean he just commands the screen each and every time even when you have top-flight triple A. Actors and actresses like Demi Moore, Tom Cruise and like. Still Jack Nicholson is GonNa take the scene and steal seeing each and every time out because he does such a great job of playing himself and bringing himself into the character each and every time out. So that's number fourteen. It's a few good men and it is still even today it's a it's a pretty good watch but yeah, it is Jack. Nicholson right there. Just boom right achy. Number Thirteen. Is. One of the films that are out there from. Two guys that just introduced a series upcoming Amazon. that. Ghost hunters and whatnot. It is Simon Pegg Nick Frost, and this is I guess I don't know I thought Shaun of the dead was the most beloved. But I, guess, this is hot. FUZZ IS AT number thirteen I've seen it. I thought it was funny. I didn't think it was the greatest thing in the world but I thought it was kind of cool. Though. One of your thoughts at hot buzz, which has left a big enough impression with our fans and followers said, it's number thirteen on our list. Is. So this is a with my friends like hot fuzz is the most quoted. Simon Pegg. Film you know to me it was the only one that I fell asleep. So it's they, they everyone else clearly has different opinions than I do of it, but it is. You know they they kind of make fun of things in each one. You know they had in the first one. Or Shana the dead. They made fun of horror movies hot. Fuzz, they made fun of action movies. At world's end, they made fun of year like hangover type films, the drinking movies. So hot fuzz kind of to me it's. It is funny but it's not my favorite but it does have a lot of like it hits home. You know with a lot of quotes like you've never seen point blank or you've never. Cook your gun and fired up in the game. You know like in every action movie in the nineties somebody did something like that. So it does have a special place for me, but it was not my favorite of the trilogy. Yeah it wasn't my favorite either I rely Shana the dead of the three but they're all funny movies. They're all good movies. The. World's end. Maybe it's probably the number three of the street but I I was pretty good. I mean, I enjoyed it for what it was worth and that's hot fuzz it number thirteen. And number. Twelve This was something that's high up on my list and a lot of other people's. and. It is the Best Star Trek movie maybe. It's an close running with star trek two, thousand nine. Both of them are excellent films excellent excellent films in a highly recommended. But Star. Trek to the wrath of Khan. Ricardo. Montalban at his finest play one of the greatest movie villains ever. So cheesy quoting Shakespeare Voting Literary Grades Eddie, Moby Dick and the whole nine yards at the whole entire time. Truly. was over the top. William. Shatner's best performance on film ever, and that's number twelve star trek to the wrath of Khan. And the heartbreaking heartbreaking and I'm going to spoil it now for everybody heartbreaking quote unquote death of Spock, which was truly a shop for people at that time. Yeah I've heard people talk about this never seen it but you know it is. Yeah, right. It is something like there was a point in time where like you could go to Walmart and you can find these DVD's. For about five bucks a piece and like there was idid did in even like working at best buy remember stocking box sets but. I did want to go back and watch us. But then like having a go back through and watch all the series and just to get my continuity down like is it sounded exhausting. So I didn't do it but you know, I, know that these movies mean quite a bit to you your passion for Star Trek makes me feel like maybe one day. I might go actually find the time to go back and watch star Trek. Just. Don't watch. The previous movie is that's a snooze fest, and that'll take you out of the series say right now. Star Trek to I think maybe for me, it's probably even more redeeming because the fact that the original Star Trek Movie Star Trek the Roach on motion picture but such a slog. As. So slow and not at greatly received did a eastern of money at the time. But it was does not very well received, and again, it led to other star wars movies that also not well received because when this came out. The wrath of Khan was so well received so well, love and has. Basically. Better than virtually anything made by star. Trek. Movie. Sense. Before the year two thousand and a just such an incredible movie has it does play off of those themes and the fact that that ties into the original series itself because the characters not not just the the folks on the enterprise but Ricardo Montalban character and with the story itself and what he phrases and what he references from. If you didn't watch the series. It's still okay because you still able to get it but at ties it so much even. So, even more for those fans because it ties into an episode from the actual series that Ricardo Montalban on in the original nineteen sixty series so. It is a great watch. I truly enjoyed it as campy. It is over the top. Now it is aged a little bit, but it is still one of the biggest over the top villainous movies of all time. It's something that if you can watch it on cable or whatnot, it's truly truly a fun watch. It is number twelve in his star trek to the wrath of Khan. God Con. Bill Shatter going head and yelling that out. Number, eleven is a movie that really defined the ninety s when it came to special effects cutting edge special effects. And that was T- to. But beyond the cutting edge special facts was a great story there within and. Just, a just a truly, truly cool film to watch. And he did know was going to be else left alive or who is going to die by the end of the film but it was sure a fun thrill ride and I think one of James, Cameron's underrated films t to at number eleven. I, actually really enjoyed tea to of all the terminator films like that's the one that I could go back and watch meal just as like a a leisure film the. I. So this was a movie I. I remember I watched it when I was a kid I saw it I won't say it was like seven years old. I, Watch with my dad and it was a good flake and I remember I got up esp and I used as traveling up to Bass Lake up you cindy and I was like they have terminator two on ESPN movies. I. Needed and so I went out and bought in our sitting there watching on the way up and then Wa wa Wa forgot to charge. Esp So couldn't watch it. But yeah, it is a movie. It is something that I it is worth watching over and over again it just really sucks said, they followed such a great movie up with Terminator Three. And the Terminator Movies. All that though terminator movie series and Terminator Ip. As fallen on hard times since he do do you see ever reboot coming that can really get into an comes a terminator I. Think they need to give a rest. But I think it's something that will be brought back. You're listening to the pop culture cosmos don't touch that dial. We do do people still use dials hoping sued zero cool films presents action figure venture Super Collector Jay Bartlett hits the road. Once again in search of action figures most I panic and noteworthy end rare figures all in the name of creating the most ultimate action figure auction. Ever he fronts the cash that charity benefits in the end, what will they get? How will we get it and how well will he do find out November I twenty twenty I would hope. So I really liked the one with Christian Bale I thought that that was kind of solid. Y- I thought that that was kind of a good direction for the film to go like a reached the point where they needed to stop traveling back in time and needed to address the war that was currently happening and. I think because they got so obsessed with the time travel aspect of of the whole. Thing it kinda ruined it. You know like they didn't the series didn't evolve they tried to cling. So tightly to what made it a cult classic in the first place and I think that much like The Alien Franchises? What kind of did the men in the end of it? And it's movie that a lot of people voted on as one of their top films and it reached a high mark. In our top one, hundred issue movie countdown, and that's number eleven. Terminator two. Zero glass we're coming right back out to here with Josh Peterson. They were now into the top ten, my friend, the top ten in our top one hundred ish movie countdown. Thank. Goodness because I don't know how much more. I can say top one hundred ish. Such a higher pay Detroit. Number ten. A really really good superhero flake that. Really goes off the beaten path so to speak. The Middle Film in the Jonathan. Nolan Batman. Series. And possibly one of the best turns ever for the joker, it's the late Heath Ledger at is the dark night. So I want to hear your thoughts on our number ten flick. The dark, Knight. Lhasa, love it most grounded like Superhero film I think that I have ever seen is a great follow up to Batman begins. Honestly like it feels like a movie that could take place in the real world yet Batman is a superhero it was so well rain. It had so many elements who that the elements of a heist film elements, a Superhero Film and? It asked a lot of really. Really deep questions a lot of philosophical questions you know in that. Led to that whole thing about who is the villain right? Batman is is trying to control. US But the joker is on the side of the natural order. So who is really the bad guy there there's just so much to take away from that film and there's still things that I am discovering today I. Love this film absolutely love it. I'll tell you what my friend It's just something that I think a lot of people need to go ahead and check out because if they have, and it is truly one of the defining best superhero films and that is the dark night at number ten. Number. Nine Number nine is also another great film in fact, that's all we're GONNA hit right now it's just nothing but great films back to back to back to back just truly one hit after another. And that is the best movie in my opinion in the Marble semak universe. A movie that is part Superhero. Movie. Are Spy movie heart. Really Really, really good movie and the movie that I think that has. I just say that right now that it's going to be a movie that I think is going to last for a while as the one of the most revered in the Marble Samak Universe history and that is captain America. The winter soldier. So I want to hear your thoughts on Captain America, Winter Soldier I know we've said at ad nauseam before, but just joining us and hearing why it's number nine on her list as WanNa hear your thoughts on Captain America soldier. Oh this was the point where the marvel cinematic universe took a really drastic turn like this was this was the the place where it all happened the place where a superhero movies stopped the marvel movie stopped being campy and became. Realistic The argument that aren't score says he has about the these roller coaster rides in the marvel cinematic universe films not being real films. It ends it ends with right there like it they. Yeah. It breaks into like spycraft you know like it feels. I can see why after seeing this, you know the success of this movie that the Rousseau's would be put in charge of such a big. You know big undertakings over a marvel and yeah, like this was the defining marvel film for me. You know it's too bad like it an went a little more into the campy side before it reached in game and then came back down but Yeah it was a really really great film. I cannot say enough great things about it because it it develops more not only. A well rounded receptions character is captain America to give you more insight into him as a human being in him as a superhero in the film, but also as well helped even get you more insight into black widow, a semi, all Jackson's character and the fact that Robert Redford. Had One of the best villainess turns in the Marvel AMAC Universe for Robert Redford in his seventy S. Still playing that level of character truly was something that people need to check out and if you have already know just how good captain America. Winter. Solaris. It's usually now these when I hear a lot of people there number one or the number two choice or whatnot it's very high up very rarely do I hear below the top five. So, Captain America Winter Soldier with a lot of people. In fact, a lot of critics out there they considered the best I know with us. I'm going to say right now again, and I think I've said this before on air that it's my number one choice all time in the Marvel Samak universe. Yeah. So I mean a lot of people who I know don't like Superhero films really enjoyed that movie. So I mean if that doesn't speak leagues about what kind of film it is, I don't know what would. That's again number nine captain America the winter soldier. A friend we continue on with our list is just a truly outstanding lists. Now, really getting to some well known movies and some. People all over can appreciate but I'll tell you what is to spend. So great to talk to you about these movies in our top one hundred ish. countdown. Slice, and dicing my friend because eight is the bride. AK Houma Thurman in Kill Bill Volume One, and this was a blood the movie. Full. Of Action when Tarantino really just amping up the the blood and the Gore but still combining revenge story that people can get into. So want hear your thoughts. It is disturbed at times. Is well written at times and it does have that motivation to continue. So I wanNA hear thoughts on Kill Bill. One. I am a fan of kill Bill I honestly I. I liked the second one more than the first one just because it was such a you know I was I was just getting into films around the time that this movie came out and like enjoying them as like pieces of art. But like this was kind of too far. Beyond even my ability to appreciate when it first came out. So I actually had to watch the movie a couple times where I was like okay I can get behind that. They take a lot of elements from a lot of different like genres mostly like kung-fu like the nor films these even like I would say a bit a western to it. But I. Really well done film. I wouldn't mind going back and watching them or even watching volume three I know that's been talked about for awhile but I was going to touch upon. JESSOP I gonNA touch bond in fact, Vivica Fox who? Spoilers was one of the casualties in kill Bill. She, recently said a great idea because her daughter was at the very end of her scene where she perished. Having a real life actress. Obviously. One of the biggest actresses right now in the movies. Play that young lady in the first film, the daughter of a Fox having his India, go on their events to her after the bride I think that would make a great kill bill volume three. Yeah I. Agree I mean she's got the star power to do it. So I mean would be really cool. But then would it would it defeats the whole purpose of where the movie wound up you know is is a Halo Revenge Thurmond's Taylor revenge but I mean they would have to make because you liked Huma Thurman in that series so you'd have to do something to Vilnai's her really like Yet behind that or else they would just Kinda seem you know tragic and unnecessary? Well is a great movie. A lot of fun I do think you need see both kill bill volume one and kill bill volume two But it is something that a lot of people should go and see if you can handle the violence because there's It's it's Quentin. Tarantino, and this is one of the winter teens even for him. One of his more violent films and that is kill Bill volume one and that is number eight on our list of the top one hundred ish movie countdown. Number seven foreign film, a meal something that actually appeared. Quite. A few times on our list as far as the top ten lists are concerned. So I have seen it in the past I thought it was very good. Funny. Had had a nice flair to it. I don't know if you've checked out this this movie meal, but it is something that if you're really into foreign films, Josh I think it's well worth their time. I have not. This is one that people have always tried to convince me to watch and I just I never never did. I would be interested in watching it I just I I'd have to have the time to sit down and do it. And there you go. That's number seven. It is a meal. It is a French film that a lot of people will have to get into. I think if you can handle subtitles in your films I know some people just get turned off at the prospect of watching a film with subtitles. It is well worth your time. It is a meal. It is really good film I really enjoyed it and it is something that it does have that international flair and I cannot say enough good things about a meal at number seven on our list of the top one hundred ish movie countdown. Are Right my friend this movie that. You and I. Both. About a lot on this show and you understand that it did not make it was a disappointment it was displayed at the box office. It has garnered a new life on home video to the point that is earned. Since I came out on home video. It's just behind the marvel movies in the Star Wars movies as far as really making a lot of money because the fact it was so well done as far as from a cinematic standpoint, people have got to have it sinophile all place rave about it the colors, the story, the interest on it people thought at the time all it's running a little bit too long purses. But Not It ended up being one of the again best selling movies on home video since it's released. And that is blade runner twenty, forty night a movie which you and I at the year it came out I. Think it was two, thousand seventeen. Was Our number one film. The one to hear your thoughts on blade runner twenty, forty, nine, one more time because we will continue I think as far as the longevity of the show from time to Time Murad. How much truly enjoy this film a film that was a successor to another truly great film that was made thirty years prior, but still was able to do a great. Job. Of connecting the DOTS and not only a great performance right by Ryan Gosling. But Harrison. Ford. In one of his best turns of the modern era, ever the emotion that he displayed e is not displayed almost any other film in the modern era. So I want to hear your thoughts a blade runner, twenty, forty, nine, a masterpiece by denise. Villa and. Just. A truly warranted sequel of release Scott's genius film. Who let's Let's talk about this on we. We are both avid fans of blade runner. So this is one of my all time favorite films, and like I am probably one of the few that wanted a longer cut I guess when the movie was originally cut, it was like four hours something around that I would have loved to be able to watch something like that. It asks a lot of light. It's it's very philosophical even like theological and itself right? Like the whole. Is it right for us to create life and then limit what that life can do? I think that's what turned a lot of people off about was the fact that like I don't know if people have the ability to to really think about that kind of stuff. A movie anymore you know you go back to the nineties. There's a lot of films like Jurassic. Park would be one of them but people run off by the running time, which is Kinda funny because we've seen films like for instance of interesting game. Yeah a long running time. So people were run by that and even though it came out to glowing reviews. and. Everybody was to seemingly that would that wash it truly loved it. People were going to theaters to go ahead and watch which is truly disappointed because they couldn't connect to the original film because he original film was a cult hit in its own, but it only left a certain segment of the audience watching you know that that had actually recognize it for what it was. Yeah it's just something that I'm hoping that there's a trilogy to this and an ending of it. After Denise Villaneuva gets done with Dune that he'll once again or Ridley Scott. is in his eighties, now will still be able to go ahead and. Finish off this trilogy because I think truly deserves it. Yeah, it does I mean I think Danny Villaneuva would be perfect to kit to carry it on I. Know I mean I'm curious I know he had expressed interest in creating another bladerunner film. I'm curious with once Dune is finished. Will they gave him that opportunity will soon be successful enough to allow him you know it's the same thing like vin diesel makes deals with universal right I will do this next fast and furious we but you have to do another riddick movie for me. and. So I, wonder if they could if there could possibly be a scenario where that would happen because I really love it because at this point. You know it can be a side character. We seen an and that's kind of what happened in Blade runner twenty forty nine right with Ryan goslings character. But yeah, we can kind of. This is a good. It would a third film would be a good opportunity to kind of relate the story that has already happened while at the same time carrying on what people love so much about those films and you know if you're a fan of altered carbon I would definitely recommend you go out and watch blade runner. Forty nine. Both of them. Blade, runner twenty, forty, nine, one of the most visually stunning films I have ever seen I saw on I max and it was one of the performances as far as from a filmmaking standpoint I have seen visually is truly awesome. That is our number six movie on our top one hundred list I mean again, it's not just us. That thinks. So highly of it, a lot of other people did too that saw the film. Truly were taken aback by it enjoyed it, and again, it's one of the better selling films on home video since its release on home video as done remarkably well, there will be enough to garner another sequel to make it a blade runner three to end his trilogy because there's some events in their blade runner twenty, four, nine, which. Would hopefully be necessitating a third film in the trilogy we'll have to wait and see, but it is bladerunner twenty to forty nine. One of the most visually stunning films of all time. 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That was the first star wars movie that I saw, which is weird because nobody told me that there was a movie before that. So I felt dumb having not seen it but Yeah. GR- Great Film Empire Strikes Facts is probably like the most spoiled movie ever made and it it still is like for for a little kid growing up. You know going back to the playground Oh and There's this part where Darth vader goes Luke I am your father and then you're like oh you son of a B. Word I still haven't seen the movie you know like. It still is widely spoiled today and let me ask you this though what about this movie makes it such a loved film compared to the others. I've told you my stories endings go back on her on a previous episodes. You hear my conversation why it's meant so much to me because I got taken out of my bed by my sister's ex husband and their three o'clock in the morning the first showing on the first day. I had never seen a fellow of this magnitude in a theater before and the line was going at least a couple miles long. Literally, this film was so good because not does only a great job of telling its own narrative, but it helps build the world and Universe of Star Wars and also ties in. So well events from the original star wars, but also same time sets up so much more in the star. Wars Universe and also returned the I. It does all these different things and that's why it's still even today so revered so loved and considered by the vast majority of Star Wars fans as the best of all the Star Wars movie as it does such a great job of doing everything right and checking off all the boxes and is considered by many best sequel of all time and I can't say I, disagree with. Yeah, I mean it. It really defines what the Star Wars Universe is what takes place the whole body hunters and space battles and lightsaber fights and Yoda like the Old Star Wars movie all of it can be summarized in the empire strikes back and I. think that is what makes it such a great film. So iconic why people love it so much is that like Hey You don't have time for the build up time for the conclusion. This movie will summarize Star Wars but then again, you can't just watch empire strikes back because star wars is a very continuity heavy franchise and that is number five star wars. The Empire strikes back truly one of the greatest films out there especially when it concerns the sci-fi Schon Reya and if you haven't seen it Under rock but you know. Ours is not for everybody, but if it is. About the empire strikes back. Number four because we're now in the top five, my friend of the top one, hundred ish movie countdown. That is the sound of music. Live with the sound of music my kids my wife they still watch it to this very day and it's a classic and it endures even day I've seen it. It's cool I. Guess you know it's not something I caught on my way to watch but I know a lot of people do like it that people do sing it's A yeah it's a movie. Yeah, it's a movie they're gonNA. Be on the back of the box right there. The quotation. Yeah it's a movie. And that's the sound of music. A number four number three is a much beloved film. I like it. I could say it's just a film but I do realize understand it whereas place in history it is one of the most beloved fiance of all time. Considered one of the best films of all time that and the godfather part to it is the Godfather I want to hear your thoughts on the Godfather. One I had to watch for my film class. It's good. It's long. It's not something that like your average filmgoer today would be willing to sit through. But if you're a real like fan of film as an art then yes definitely a very well done movie and asked Number Three that's the godfather truly one of the outstanding works of cinema that's out there. I think it's OK. But again, like Josh I think it's a long but that's just me obviously the the performances in their speak for themselves and then just such a high profile cast. You gotta say that everybody was working at their top Pasaden- on that one while Brown themself. The late Marlon Brando. That's number three the Godfather. Number two. All right that's the one where you and I were going to be really enjoying on this one. Number two which was hoping number one but unfortunately, not number one but number two. It's runner don't want to hear your thoughts. My friend we talked about Blade runner twenty, forty nine and it being a worthy sequel to this. Awesome Awesome movie that helped redefine Saigon Ra-. I'd say like in my opinion kind of defined what Sifi should be you know it's it's not it's not star trek by any means, but I mean as far as like what a great sci-fi movie should. I think it is. The quintessential movie for me. I had never seen a movie like this and I, know there's so many different cuts of it by like I had never in my life seen anything that like the colors are so vivid. The story is so deep and intelligent like I. You have to watch this this you have to watch four or five times before you really start peeling back. Some of the layers at this movie has to offer you know I it has some typical ninety tropes in. Eighty eighty eighties yeah. As far as how the acting looks but I mean, this film was so far ahead of its time you know had been made today like I, I think it would be this generation star wars you know like it just it has so many things to like I had never you look at What was going on at the screen and like the year like you would have never guessed that some of this stuff would be possible in that time. Oh my gosh, I'd I truly truly love this movie is an absolute masterpiece. It's just a shame that not more that it not as not that many people have seen it that are growing up today. Good with you, MARA FRIEND IT IS SIR I think my favorite film on my top twenty five list which in checkout on. Pop. Culture Castles Dot. com. It's bladerunner truly an inspirational film to me. I've seen it a countless number of times I think I'm going into the twenty S. So I'm just telling you right now it's very film outstanding. Missionary film from that time that's still holds up well today. And if you haven't seen it, you need to go out of your way and see it, and then after that checkup laid running two, thousand, forty nine and again appreciate everything that is with bladerunner because blade runner at number two. I think it's low I. think it's too low I think it should be our number one film but that. Worked out but number two it's bladerunner. All right. My friend were here are list is now done. In. The top one, hundred ish movie began down. So before we get to number one and tell everybody out there, number one, want to go ahead. Thank again, everybody for taking time all of our listeners followers and Go ahead and take us here at the pop culture cosmos. Everything that we do leaper shaded and took the time out to make their top ten less. This. Is it the number? One film? And the number one film of our top one hundred ish movie countdown is drum roll please. Fiction. Movie that just catapulted into life as far as exploded at that point in time I remember watching the theaters it was. Amazing or what it was just. Went Tarintino exploded as a director after that because of just how different this movie was appointed time Dobie had seen anything like it the imagery, the where the story went the story lines the acting you just did a lot of the things that no other movie at that point in time had done on your thoughts about a number one movie, my friend. Pulp Fiction. So. This might make me sound on popular but I think the movies gray but I don't think it's OPT here I think it did a lot who I know. I. Know We just lost like twelve listeners, but I think it's it's well done. It's written really well, it's got a lot of really great scenes a lot of great acting a lot of great like what the world moments but I just. It's not something that like I look back. I'm like, yeah I'm GonNa Watch that movie again. Yeah. I'm GonNa Watch that movie again you know it's just it's not that for me in like I'm glad that it is for other people. But it's just it never. Has Really attached itself to me like it has other people I see you why they like it but it's just you know it's one of those movies where it's so shocking some of the parts in it that I just don't need to watch it again. The imagery that film even with the dialogue had royalva cheese with with John Travolta Samuel Jackson, lot of the path of the right to S- manner, and that was put into the witcher soldier. People get to go ahead and see that Easter A in their Samuel Jackson performance You know everybody in their involved. Bruce. Willis was just so so standing are tell at A. Turned Thurman, was great in it. So just an all star cast doing a great job such an iconic film, the movie that now has at that point in time cemented win Tarantino as a director that people wanted to work for and one that people wanted to go ahead and follow, and that is pulp fiction our number one film in our top one hundred ish movie countdown. Laura, my friend. We're done. And we counted them all be dig count on down all the way down to from one hundred four. Whereas actually tied at one hundred, four that we're tied at hundred all the way down to number one, you have any questions for us on top one hundred ish movie countdown. You can always go ahead and send us an email pop culture cosmos at Yahoo DOT COM or check us out on our social media pop. Culture Cosmos Humana, comedian game source on facebook twitter and Instagram, and also punk Culture Kosmos on ticked as well. All Right Josh has been a great episode. You GotTa countdown our final twenty in our top one hundred movie countdown. 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American Whiner  Episode 97

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American Whiner Episode 97

"You're listening to the podcast detroit visit w._w._w. Dot i tested dot com before information. Everybody is wednesday has day evening time for american winder podcast detroit dot com. How the hell is everybody doing. I am back had a bit of a rescheduling deal last week. So i ended up not being able to come in by <hes>. I'm back now and with me back for the first time since way back in may as <hes> mr robert channel how you doing bob <music>. Only i am i am. I'm good. I'm i'm hanging in there. It sounds like you're hanging in there too. You're in the middle of a very busy promotions blitz. Let's for your movie feast of the seven fishes but you're going to tell us about and <hes> i'm so happy you're able to to make it here before he's slipping to your coma that you're talking about it. It feels like it feels like like seconds away from just shutting down completely. What what exactly is so. I mean like what's what's the demanding by is it. Just everybody wants your attention and it's just impossible to get to everyone you know. Yeah i mean when you you know when you you make your film like there's this whole bunch of stuff going on and then there's the the period post your in your and then you you you shop shop it together distributor in which we did and <hes> and then suddenly now you've got to deliver it and even though you finish the film you know there's little things that need doing like in my instance you know we we got any song we could put in. We had to we did some. We wanted to make a few changes changes to <hes> just a couple of things at the beginning of the end of the film <hes> and then the way that you have to deliver the film both for example you you. You have to deliver the film for u._s. Domestic distribution with all your titles intact but for other territories non english speaking territories you have to deliver version that has no text anywhere so that they can put their own in their own language on on it right. <hes> you have to deliver mix. That doesn't have any of the dialogue. It's just a music and sound sound effects so that if they want to dub it in another language you <hes> i have to do the commentary track for the blu ray the d._v._d. We're still working on the behind the scenes we just just had our first <hes> preview screening <hes> the closing event the west virginia talion heritage festival which is huge italian cultural festival <hes> and that was just it's just it was a whole bunch of stuff and in the middle of it i just directed music video and trying to get it done and ah yeah it so it's been it's interesting. I can hear you struggling for the word to a lot. You know and we just trying to get. I mean everything you you have to be involved their hours and hours of meetings and decision making you know we were blessed. Poster poster for the movie was was painted by robert tanenbaum. Who did the poster for christmas story and features. Seven fishes is a christmas wrong. Com sort of thing so so you know here we get to work with this guy and the design work that went into it <hes> working with <hes> our graphic designer michael kronenbourg. I mean weeks. You know just just every single decision literally. You know what i have to approve what goes on the d._v._d. Itself literally physical d._v._d. With images going beyond that i mean i it just goes on and on the interviews of the various release. Just it's just a lot of crap a lot. It's a lot of stuff that most most people would never know about unless they were now but now now it's they don't teach simpson's school do remember watching a buddy of my work on like one shot from a movie and it was just it was just like a car like passing a house and the color correction and everything he worked on like all afternoon. It was just was like a second of film and like that right there. The attention to detail it has acquired is just like i said. Most people don't know about it. It sounds like what our mutual friend franz did on seven fishes he did he did a shot at was just so complicated <hes> and <hes>. It took him a lot more than a day on that one. Let me tell you for just the point of view of a house with christmas lights on it and <hes> <hes> was funny at the at the screening that we had there was a cute af the screening and i was saying to the audience producers like let them know that the you know this is this is like a really authentic. You know italian american love story. This is like real. This isn't like some comic movie with a bunch of special effects and and i was like <hes> dude this actually was a comic book movie 'cause seven visits with the comic book before it was a movie i was in if you put every time i ever did even ones yes. I did it out dracula. Dracula frankenstein's ma crap. I had these other movie has more visual effects eighties near always like taken out right right like you yeah. That's that's the thing like like. I said the shot that franz worked on. I'd i'd saw that too you and all you had to do was like you know get rid of a couple of trees and you know put the lights on all those things that sounded simple in execution but like you said it took him multiple days to do it <hes> <hes> and that's funny though that they said this is not this is not a comic book movie when you're like well first of all it was a comic book and because it takes place thirty years ago almost forty years ago now we there's gonna be a ton of special effects as we gotta. We gotta make it look like took place in eighty three. I man so why don't who <hes> just tell us about the the graphic novel that you're this was originally graphic novel as you mentioned <hes> and just tell us about how you inspired and what was reading like and what was getting the novel out like we're originally. You know i'll i'll i had wanted to do is when i when i was making my first feature film. I came home. <hes> i was imposed so i just came home for christmas and i decided to video my grandfather and migrate uncles cooking the feast and and i had no oh thought of developing beyond that it was just to kind of preserve. It and i don't know maybe eight or eight or nine years later. I was okay you know what i could do and i started playing around with the idea and my manager at the time was not supportive and was like you should. You're writing horror stuff. You don't do this you. You set up a horror movie. Don't do this and and though i one thing led to another and i just developed it as an online comic. I was interested in daily comics. I wanted to see how they sort of work. <hes> at the time i was obsessed with just comics in general in working in them and i just thought it was gonna make me a better storyteller and i think i think it anyway you know the online comic did really well and developed a really passionate fan base and so then i formed the company was my brother <hes> to to put out the book. We weren't getting any i couldn't. I was writing a lot for image comics that couldn't get them to do. It and i'm now in hindsight nothing against damage but i'm really glad that i didn't because we kind of did everything the way we wanted it and the book was nominated for an eisner for best graphic best graphic novel novel reprints which was a big deal and adapted it for moving it took a long time we we almost got to be made two thousand eight and it didn't happen and then <hes> then somehow you know <hes> it happened and <hes> got an amazing cast and got got to do it with complete control which was which is just extraordinary right how the first thing i want to know is how much of the dialogue from the videos of your own call and your grandpa pod how much of that actually made it into the book and the movie oh i'd say there's probably you know to a a couple of minutes of stuff that they set sprinkled throughout the movie for sure. There's one one sequence. Actually maybe not that much but there is one scene. That's very very almost almost verbatim one exchange <hes> but a lot of it. I mean they're they're. They're humor. Marin just craziness was was burned into my brain for a long time so sometimes maybe it's not what they said but it's absolutely something they would have said <hes> <hes> well just so just so everybody knows just frame of reference feast it the seven fishes what that is basically a christmas eve celebration <hes> where uh-huh talion families eat eat a lot of fish <hes>. It's like a catholic type thing because catholics don't eat <hes> meat on certain holidays and <hes> and the plot of this movie is is this <hes> this young italian kid in nineteen eighty three brings home an affluent ivy league protestant girl and it's just about not what happens so is is how much of this i mean. I know you said you got the <hes>. The this was inspired by the videos that you took up your own family family but how much of this is autobiographical in terms of the main character it. He's not me at all like he's really thoughtful like like he's like real monogamous like when he has a girlfriend. It's just about her and he's not and i wasn't that evolved. I was more like i was just goofing <unk>. I'm just into having a good time and and partying with my friends and i would have a girlfriend but i wasn't wasn't <hes> anyway so no more. It's like this happened. I mean i certainly brought you know blonde. Blue eyed girl got my great-grandmothers disapproving. Stare <hes> but <hes> you know generally speaking it just seemed like in a fun way to explore explore the cultural differences and it's just i love food and i thought that was gonna be a lot of fun and and it was you know turned out to be that way and i do want to mention that you'll hear his is drowsy crazy. We already see signs people go. This is not a this is not an italian thing. We don't do this in italy and <hes> so what you're saying is four four million italians immigrated to the united states scattered throughout the country and simultaneously without being able to communicate with one another there was no phones or internet or anything. <hes> decided they were all suddenly start cooking fish christmasy. The reality is this is a southern italian nine traditions very much a real tradition. They don't do it in tuskegee. They don't they don't do it in the north. It's a southern thing but it's very much alive and very much a a real thing and that always makes me laugh when when i hear that i'm like oh my god. What is it the richard pryor as to say there was always one guy in the corner of the barbershop reading an almanac just waiting for someone to make a mistake right right the purity tests sort of thing exac- but this this movie is so people noah it's the cast is pretty stacked like there's you know skyler. Zondo's does the main character. I know him from <hes>. If you remember the vacation movie that came out a couple of years ago he was the older brother matt madison eisman is the is the protestant girl they brings home. She he is mostly known for <hes>. She's been in a bunch of stuff but she was the <hes>. The girl gets the jack black avatar. I believe in in <hes> josh josh helman is he played a general strike in a couple of the movies he was in mad. Max fury road which is in my opinion the best movie of the past ten years <hes> dope pantoliano is known as i mean again. He's another guy suspend in frickin a ton of stuff but a cipher from the matrix is probably his most the what with the average person will will know him from so. There's a ton of people in this. So how did you bring people together. You know and i was told old going in. This will never happen like this. You're not gonna get all these people. In fact i remember my my another manager. Mine like several years ago when i was trying to cast movie and i said that i'd really like joey pants. You know to play uncle franken. She goes you will never get him and <hes> you know after a lengthy phone call. Where are we did not talk about. The movie in fact all joey wanted to talk about was how i prepared my stuff. Calamar apt at the end of the car is all right. I'm gonna do it. <hes> we had ray bruce. Oh you know little little carmine from the sopranos really funny paul ben victor from the wire. He's in the irishman. Now offers courses in an entourage. Paul works just constantly impulse abc we throw around this word brilliant and way way overuse the word brilliant but he's brilliant you know he spent a lot of time trying to become my grandfather and he did a fabulous job and lou stealing the movies lynn cohen who was mocked up for years on sex in the city she was cynthia nixon's housekeeper babysitter or bernini and then she's hunger games and she played a cold air for spielberg in munich. She's just wonderful you know and again <hes> you know madison. Campus did <hes> <hes> <hes> annabel you know which did two hundred million worldwide now. She's doing to mogae again. A schuyler is he's now doing the the after santa rita diet now he's on that. What is it called the righteous gemstones and then <hes> addison tim lynn who's as the girl in the kind of love triangle <hes>. She's just incredible it really i mean god. Corruption just blew my mind <hes> odd thomas. I know a lot of people know at addi from that and then she was annie on broadway which was a kid. I mean it's a pretty remarkable and then andrew schultz if you don't john andrews scholz he's <hes> he's blowing up. He's a comedian and he's really kind of pushing some boundary reason. He's so funny <hes> so yeah and there's there's other. I mean there's some newcomers like jessica darrow really going places so it's a cast david david callaway who was one of the eh one of the guys in the green book who who mum mixes it up bum with viggo. He's just in all kinds kinds of stuff. He's fantastic to use villain in roots. He's become a really close friend. He always plays the really rotten guy so blessed man like. I said very very blessed yeah well. How long how long was the filming period on this than hong film. I you know honestly. I mean principal. People was we we we we were able to wrap principle inside of a month but i had seven days of second unit because the food and the weather other stuff that i had to get a lot of the effects things i had to do with vehicles and stuff so you know in the end i mean i think i shot thirty five days when it was all set up and i mean it's wikipedia says this is. This is a twenty eighteen million like you said it's it took you. You almost got married. Two thousand dumbest thing was the dumbest thing and it's all i._m._d._b.'s fault and we can't get them to change it. How a movie. I mean to be honest with you. Even though i screened the movie this past sunday night at the west virginia town heritage festival we were literally the picture corrections this morning in hollywood really yeah it is not done. It never screened anywhere before last sunday except to buyers. It's not true i didn't. I couldn't have released the film in two thousand eighteen if i wanted to but i probably shouldn't say this but you know i._m._d._b. Has just become com a mess in my opinion. I mean we have extras putting their names up like their cast members and we can't get them down it. It's i mean i have sent now. Three personal appeals to i._m._d._b. Begging them to stop saying this is a two thousand eighteen film even though they themselves that doesn't come out until november fifteenth twenty nineteen and they're saying it's a two thousand eighteen th oh yeah. How does that work like. How the hell did that happen clearly. It's not working. I could would not tell you i i've just i'm just i've given up. I don't know how to do it. Shout our distributor shout studios. They're just defeated like we just can't. I've seen to get <hes> you know. I mean i see my student. If people i've taught in school before you know i see myself they go. You produced this like. I didn't mm produce that film student. Oh put your name on boom there. It is and and they don't question that at all <hes> you know i think it's become really deluded but it <hes> i'm sure that gets me in trouble for saying it but whatever well it's it's like anything else like when everybody can do it all of a sudden it really becomes meaningless because is like you said if an extra puts every single project they've been on and they're they're not even they're not even onscreen or they're. They're out of focus or whatever it's like. We're you know i gotta tell you. It's really not not wise on their part because it really really upsets casting directors and like for me. I'm annoyed because my speaking actors you know. Good actors are buried buried under people who you know we're extras. Just i don't know how to. I don't know how to stop it. Uh i've tried and i'm just utterly defeated so you know hey i._m._d._b. Just clean it up a little bit. Tighten it up there. We go. They'll do it now. I'm sure yeah so tell me about the the <hes> after the movie was finished because i mean this has been a long process process. It was the mid nineties when you were inspired to do this sort of thing sounded like and then it's taken a decade just to get the movie made <hes> <hes> i mean and here you are like you said you're you're burned out. You're on the promotion <hes> trail and i mean what's the what's it been like now that it's finally got in your hands and you have a release date. That's that's bearing down on. You and you're just out trying to get it out there. You find distributor. You're found everything that you need and you're still working on on it so i mean what's that ben like i mean obviously it's exhausting but it's yeah but it's been listen. I would if i had been given. Even you know a a twenty million dollars ten fifteen years ago to make this movie. It wouldn't have been as good a movie as it is. Now i mean partially because i've grown filmmaker but quite honestly technology is allowing me to do things that just i mean. This film looks precisely the yeah. I wanted to look <hes>. I got music. I i'm stunned that i got the music that i wanted. I mean everything worked out at this cast ten years go. You'll never get this cast. Well i better than the cast. I was asking for ten years ago it. I mean the thing is it's no one's fault but mine if it doesn't work this is the movie. I wanted to make for the first time well. There's one other. I can say that you did a short that i feel that way about but this is the movie that top to bottom like i don't. I have no i don't. I don't have nothing to apologize for. It is the movie i wanted wanted to make doesn't mean you have to like it but for better for worse it is it is precisely my vision and so that's a a great feeling and i've enjoyed you know i've never in my life. I've got the point where i'm just. I just really don't trust people. I mean there's a whole bunch of things things i think going on with us. As a society that are bad for doing good work. <hes> for example texting is causing everyone to lose the ability ability to spell they just they just they spell check in their minds they auto correct all the time so they don't instead of saying oh look that words misspelled they just repaired in their mind and move on and that's affecting everything from credits to graphic sequences in a commercial doing or whatever so you know there's i'm very very paranoid now and so i'm spending an inordinate amount of time and exercising an inordinate amount of control and i still can't do everything i mean. I know they're probably misspellings in the end credits. I just did not have the time to focus on that because i was doing so much. Try to get the film died but i'm very invigorated in the screening that we had sunday night it just it just it didn't just green in the theater at detonated and the audience audience went absolutely nuts for it. I mean i. I don't think i realized it's fi- it's funnier than i even thought it was when i wrote it you know so all of that is it's just it's very gratifying and just it just kind of fiji to keep going and i'm going to you know i'm going to work. I'm going to work like a dog. Eh through the holidays to make sure that we take advantage of every opportunity because you know we're living in a world where they could throw ten twenty million dollars at the advertising this film and it would move into could possibly not move the needle at all like there's things that you have to do and things what i'm trying to do for graft grassroots perspective that i feel like i will not have a day off until probably you know early. January all supported this film that must like you said the the that must be. It's not just gratifying. What what else would you want to be doing anyway. Though you know what i mean like this is what she wanted to spend your life doing. This is the story that you you wanted to tell. It's your vision like you said and just just those three things right there. It's like if that must be great to be. I mean to have that ability to just be like well. I'm not going to be off until january january but it's it's promoting this thing that i i really love. It's not like you're stuck with some project. You have to pretend you like it which i'm sure you've done before but oh you've seen some of my commercial i love. I love getting to commercial. I love i actually i developed a skill a few years ago finally of convincing myself that whatever job i was on i was gonna love it and i was going to give it my all which was something i didn't do early in my career to my detriment and so i try try to fall in love with everything that i'm doing but yeah this is different and i just couldn't live with the fact that maybe i had uh not done every single thing i could do to support the film to the very best to my ability and and i'm you know i feel oh good right now. I feel like i feel like i'm very i'm working very hard in support of the film and i. I don't think i'll be riddled with guilt at. I don't think i'll be asking myself if only why didn't you do this or that. Because i'm pretty much doing it right and like i said the your your only your about two months away from the release so i mean you're almost there and and congratulations man i mean it's it's it's awesome from even from what what i know of tv production and then film production my entire life. It's amazing that anything that's made it all. Let alone when something works. This works well and is is is the artistic expression that the person who set out to make it actually wants in or wanted in the beginning. It's so true. I have to tell you a lot of my workforce like my brother and i mean we built our team. Not everybody i mean my dp is a friend of thirty years. He's incredible very talented guy <hes> but a lot of our heads like my my editor lying through some of these guys that you know <hes> i had them. I was teaching film score had that they have worked at my company now for you know now a number of years on a variety of projects and it's really gratifying to you. Look around and go man. I got this team and these guys are bad ass. Guys and girls not just guys. I just i throw guys around ubiquitously but <hes> and you know we kind of have we've. We've built a unit that is nimble and savvy technologically typically and passionate and you know it devoted to getting what i want and <hes> <hes> it. We're i'm reaping the benefits right now that and so that's just that's another aspect of this incredibly rewarding yeah yeah and you continue. It continues to expand to continue to bring other people and you're doing. You're doing music videos. Now like you mentioned <hes> you just had franz work on a music video. Me showed me this country. Music video gorgeous shot now. Oh yeah you liked that this guy this guy charles wesley godwin is just awesome. Rolling stones downs raving about him. I mean this song is just he's so good. I am so excited about it. It's in <hes> while i'm glad you liked the looks of it and i'm waiting waiting on the last one and i did the water on mars. P. says it released yet which is totally different totally different from what i'm doing with charles or you know or certainly different from from feast. It's pretty whacked out. I'm just not sure when it's going to drop. That's the thing you've had such a very career. You've like you said you were doing this. You're known for horror. Stephanie's still are but you're you're manager was like do not do this. This is like wes craven doing music of the heart. You know it won't <hes> yvonne. You won't compute but i mean here you are like i said it continues to expand so that's i mean and you still got the film school as well so that's a <hes> pretty much every single avenue you could possibly explore your you've gone down and now you're talking to me. I love teaching yeah. I mean i you know i i i. Only you know i'm only able to teach a couple of classes a week right now but i i hope i never have to stop because i really. I actually think it just makes me better. I like the interaction. I like the way that it forces me to get out of my generational head space and and it's forced me to you know to stay current on technology and there's just it's just i dunno. It's fun to teach. I mean i you know i i. If i mean obviously i would never choose over getting actually make stuff but if you can do both you know it's a gift and <hes> i'm going to keep doing it as long because i can and the the romero you know i'm the director of the george a romero filmmaking program outside of pittsburgh at the douglas of the same him guys that have the tom savini special effect program. It's an incredible facility in great people and it's just fun you know i would i. I hate the idea of ever like just having to leave you know i hope i never have to and trust me. You don't teach for money. They're spread as not why you do when you better love it. I have a teacher next week so yeah. I know all about that school so well feast of the seven fishes it comes out november fifteenth like we said and i will be saying it and i i would encourage my audience to go see it as well <hes> especially if you're italian because you may see your on family up there might be. It sounds like it's one of those movies so <hes> but there was one thing about that. I wanted to talk to you about. I saw another friend of ours ars back a couple of weeks ago and he said he told me something about you. He said you have to talk about the hammer horror films with with bob because he he absolutely loves them and it's it's the reason i'm bringing. This up is because he told me that and i'd never seen any of them. I was familiar with on those are the old movies with christopher lee dracula and peter cushing yeah and i went home and just i was looking through my d._v._d. Collection i had a collection of hammer horror films. Just that had been sitting i oh i didn't even know i had it so i watched him west. <hes> this this past week and <hes> i watched the dracula slash horror of dracula dracula has returned from the great and the curse of frankenstein really good ones man harvey dracula's like that's really important to me and <hes> <hes> probably one of the five most important films in my life. W-why is that like why did those particular ones speak to you that one that one in particular because it's sort of you know it detonated at a point near your about eight years old and i actually saw it before i saw the lugosi one and i just took honestly i was very much drawn <hes> particularly to peter cushing but also christopher lee but i loved peter cushing. I love that he was that he could be smart. He could outs you know he was a good do his characters. The generally good guys smart guys men of action you know and it was like well. Here's a smart guy that can also be physical if he has to be and he was just he was. She's such a gifted actor. <hes> and <hes> and over time i started recognizing these these two guys is a lot of movies and i kept noticing these movies really beautiful and really sort of creepy for the time and you know i mean they're not nearly as visceral as stuff is now but at the best the best of hard dracula brides of dracula <hes> <hes> curse i would say <hes> the mummies wonderful <hes> draco prints darkness is really good. I do love dracula's risen from the great. Freddie francis directed that it's it's it's a pretty interesting funny johnny. I think it was a very influential film. Certainly i'm a nascar says he talks about how influenced him most of the films that were directed by terry fisher terence fisher and wants that that affected me the most the devil rides out which is incre really great film about like a satanist kind of a plot you know but they're just <hes> you know. They were lovely to look at. I loved color as a kid. I mean these cells which is gorgeous to look at and <hes> and i think a young kid you know they. They were kinda sexy. You know the the women were beautiful and <hes> and titillated by the gory and it was a little bit of blood and it was just action you know. I don't know they were they. I just fell in love with them and they kind of triggered an interesting in gothic literature with me and then you know kind of early nineteenth century history and it is a whole lot of things and eventually you know i i did a comic comic book series a few years ago called flesh and blood that was very very well reviewed <hes> like del toro loves loves books and they were sort of you know i kind of with neil vokes we sort of established the the universe very much modeled after the hammer <hes> ideal and we just kind of took the stories in places. We wanted to take them. Unfortunately i haven't been back to the book since two thousand twelve <hes>. I just just haven't had time but yeah i'm pretty fanatical. Yeah well those those <hes> those movies introduce things like fangs on vampires and like the like you said the gory like those very celebrated blood spatters on the on dracula's coffin in the opening credits and things that was for or the time that was very that was visceral. You know that was that hadn't been done before the graphic ness of and also the the overt sexuality analogy of it you know bela. Lugosi had his smooth nineteen nineteen thirties taipa type dude thing going on but this was a way more again for the time for nineteen. I think dracula horror of dracula's fifty eight right that was that was about as far as you could push the envelope and still have a mainstream three movie knows very interesting movie comes out like right or you know close to like the era of the kinsey report. It was like you know all the all the universal so classics you know the the the dracula frankenstein's and that were really you know they were fairy tales and they were germany. You know heavily inspired by german expressionism expressionism. They were <hes> re. I mean on occasion. Some like like dracula's daughter or dark house were more sexual lives but for the most part they really weren't <hes> and and yet i adore them a lot but i think it's a lot of times it's visual aesthetic and they or driven by the visual and then because there's a whole bunch of like johnny a sub genre or archetype. How do i want to say that you know there are different types of schools of of horror and fantasy cinema that they were very attractive to me like i love the val luton pictures that he did it are k._o. Okay oh in the forties like the cat people and i walked with a zombie and those films second reading at band sex huge finally getting this giant biography avowed luton 'cause i'm just i just love what he did with those films in those films actually do at least start to look at it at least in some of them <hes> sexual dysfunction <hes> but you know hammer would be you know would be would just be all out you know like hammer was sort of hike. Maybe hugh hefner on speak dollar around indefinitely way more freudian. <hes> you know everything thing is sort of a whole lot of penetration going on one way or another totally. I mean the whole the whole those sequences where like these girls just cannot stop there like open the window and i have to let him in you know he's lying back and taken every two opening her her her blouse and taking the cross off and and you just lying there with their neck expose like looking at the window just fucked me daddy. You know like we eat. It will have out like melissa. Melissa tripling who plays a home would in draft in harvard actually in the first one now. They're outside guarding the house and dracula's hide in the basement going upstairs. You know it's right in the morning. There are like look good and she's like oh yeah great and her husband's like so christie and you're like this guy's never seen her naked. Sorry bro <hes> <hes> yeah but yeah and you know fisher really there was a lot he was trying to do and he was exploring you know he kinda grasped the the the duality of on explored that i think in a really really marvellous way i recommend to people there's a book by david perry p. i. r. e. <hes> called a a heritage of horror was published about seventy three seventy four <hes> and it isn't it really is an inspiring bit of work work that explores the british horror cinema from the late forties to to the early seventies but in an really puts it it really looks at the literary roots of it because the the the the universal stuff you know was born of the visual and and a lot of which i had to do frankly with james wale in particular and things they'd seen in the moore and hammer was they went back to the books because they had to they didn't want copyright problems with with universal so they they would go back to dracula to frankenstein <hes> <hes> to where will paris whatever book they were. You don't adapting or whatever you know character. Whatever public domain domain character they were exploring and they would <hes> they would really rethink it and and and it seemed to make it more grounded. You know a lot of ways and i kind of like like that. I don't you know i'm not. I'm never going to be <hes>. Obviously i'm not the whimsey guy you know how they truffaut set you know we're all either descended from george millea or or <hes>. What's their names the lumiere brothers. I need my fantasy to be grounded in reality and i love. I love yours me by the way i love trip up to the moon in that but i'm not you know i'm never all due respect to his talent. I'm never going to be a big you my favorite tim burton films that would <hes> burton's fine too far and away his most interesting film. I'm way more you know. I george romero's. This martin to me is is probably more. My head lies than <hes> in in the modern sense anyway i like. I really liked the plots by i love the witch. You know a couple of years ago. Oh yeah yeah there's a whole new crop of <hes> of directors young directors that are just hitting their stride. Now are aster is probably the the most famous one now because of hereditary in mid summer this year <hes> robert egger who did the which got the lighthouse coming out this lighthouse white house <hes>. It's there's just something. There's something very clean about his work and i like i like which now they're throwing around. The you know the folk car type thing because i'm <music> i'm big fan of like witchfinder general in blood on satan's claw and the wicker man and i. I like to see us. I like to see cinema getting to those <hes> yeah exploring those tropes and you just just just just cool stuff. We need another like good vampire movie to sort of reset the vampire thanks twilight br i mean we want you know but that was that was i mean those fifteen years ago now that that book came out <hes> and <hes> there but there really it hasn't been a good horror vampire movie well you know but i but i gotta say i think the reason is is that we we we retrofit vampires. I do what we need. Societally you know i mean vampires died after they just went really went away after the atomic bomb dropped because it's like you know you've ah we've had hundreds of thousands died in a blink of an eye and we're supposed to be scared of a guy in a tuxedo <hes> <hes> you know it just didn't make sense and then guys we said hammer emmer brought it back but said okay now. We're gonna use vampires to look at sex and that you know by the end of the seventies had gotten to the point that you had love at first bite. It was becoming a parody already but at that point we started seeing dracula turning into a hero. You know it started in the in the marvel comics early seventies i mean dracula becomes sort of anti hero and and you know he then he becomes the he's misunderstood. It's all about his lost love. He just wants his lights. He's he's the ultimate love very very wants to cross oceans of time for you and then you know into the two k. years where much like what a singer did with the x men it you know vampires became a way to explore alternate lifestyles and and you know i think there was a lot of <hes> there was a way to kind of call attention to for example the gay community could could embrace the vampire imagery and this it goes back to really and rice that it was the first person to sort of kind of instinctively recognize that that she could use that to maybe tap into some some deeper stuff and and i think you saw that kind of you know happened during buffy and true blood obviously was going there tonight. That fascinates me so at some point yeah they'll retrofit. They'll retrofit dracula to do something else. I mean somewhere. I have a cool italian comic book black and white comic book from the nineties where they put dracula. They told the whole story but they put in space cool. You know like you said i think true blood. It was the last <hes> at a vampire sort of adaptation where they're taken seriously as vampires and like you said they're retrofitted for modern times. It's like they like you said the gay community <hes> sort of parallel and and but for the most part it's been there either superheroes like you said with like underworld or there was the luke evans ends dracula that came out they tried to make the dark universe happened for universal <hes> and <hes> or it's a parody what we do in the shadows <hes> the tight takeaway t t <hes> movie that came out twenty fifteen which is fucking hilarious if you haven't seen that. Have you seen that but it's also like what no i haven't seen it yet. I need to also with shaun of the dead. There comes a point but what i like about that approach at least was shaun of the dead. It was one of the things that i didn't like like i really this is gonna. I guess you'd say these things but like i did not like scream. I love west craven. Okay and i love the early stuff but it d- that's sort of self devouring self parody i i to me. I don't know i didn't feel the affection whereas shaun of the dead parodies but there's so much affection and sincerity that if anything's ambi- movies have actually done better zombie materials done and better in the wake of shaun of the dead not worse. It didn't take the piss out of it so much is it actually just put it under a magnifying glass and said this is the stuff we we love. This is why we love it. I don't know maybe i'm wrong about it but it no i agree and and the thing with scream scream was such a ninety s horror movie that was the quintessential essential nineties ironic commenting on itself self-aware type mu type serial killer movie teen slasher and and i think it works for the time i i like it. I'll admit i like screaming. We don't but i do think i think it's a generational thing too and i don't have the nostalgia i think that scream works because of an of nostalgia for eighties horror that someone like me in the eighties was nostalgic for fifty sixty. Seventy bundy's are didn't feel i was and i was just i was a big like our agenda fan imbaba fan and i i liked those things actually better than i wasn't. Where people here were freaking out about friday the thirteenth i wasn't really freaking out about it because i had already kind of my head was already screwed up from from bird with the crystal plumage and deep red and stuff like that. You know what i mean like i just i was already jacked up. I that didn't really break new new ground for me. I was i was there was already something wrong with me. There's that i mean there's not a lot of hard. Ars interests me lately the which did <hes>. It's been a few years but i love the woman in black. I thought it was cool thought it was scary and cool and visually really wonderful and i just enjoyed -joyed immensely. What what do you see happening with with horror like then. What do you think the next trend will go. I'm probably the worst person to ask now because because they sorta wrote myself out and you know for me. I just have so much so many concerns about climate change and some other things that are happening to the world that i'm sort of. I sort of think i feel maybe like like the way people felt after you know after the atomic bomb like man is bigger problems right now <hes> but that being he said i mean i may do a horror picture or two yet and like one of the ones that i'm seriously looking at doing in his <hes>. 'cause i just wanna have fun. I guess that's what i wanna see in. Oregon is fun <hes> and by that. I don't mean being goofy. I mean just where it's still scary and it's creepy but it's just fun. You know like when you're a kid like not that it's some great movie but like when we were kids we love that that movie frogs you know it was like this is all this environmental horror but there was something about it was fun. I mean i love witchfinder general general. I think it's amazing. It's not fun you hard dracula's fine <hes> witchfinder general not fun <hes> but brilliant and i love it <hes> <hes> but like i want to do this i did a comic book years ago called the wicked west and it's basically you know the outlaw josey wales wrote into salem slot. That's basically your log line and and it's just cowboys vampires and it's. I just want to see that but i don't mean that. I don't know that that means anybody. Else's thinking that way or where it's gonna go. It's it's hard for me to say i mean i you know the stuff that i'm thinking that i wanna make any any of anybody. Wanna see all these stuff that i wanna see oh yeah and and you've got <hes> you've got your current project now. <hes> feces the seven fishes or just coming out and on again the fifteenth of november by the way you know what's going to happen. Don't you is. I was told when i went to make the movie that i couldn't do it because i'd either directed. Children's films are written har- now if i go to harm they're gonna you can't do that. You can only do romantic comedy yeah christmas romantic comedies. That's going to happen now. You've really pigeonholed yourself. You're stuck with one holiday now too. I know i'm waiting other. Somebody said on the movie they go. Hey maybe marker hallmark will offer you a movie and and my cameraman's australian he looked over at me. I would hate you all right man. Well bob thanks again. Thanks so much for coming back on. We're at the top of the hour here <hes> so <hes> hang on the line and all. I'll give you a proper goodbye when we're when we're done but again it's always such a pleasure to talk to you. <hes> i wish you the best with visa this seven fish. I mean you've already accomplished so much with it and i'm sure it's gonna do great so <hes> so we'll we'll see out there <hes> but everybody else i will be back next week a teacher coming in middle school teacher on my actually. She wasn't my teacher middle school but she taught in classroom next to mine. She's still friends with some of my friends and so we're going to have around talk about teaching and all the the thrills of the classroom so join me then be next wednesday same time same place. It's seventy eight here in royal oak. This has been american winer on podcast detroit dot com.

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Ep 325 | Missy Makes Jase Squirm AGAIN & No One Likes the Name Jase Wants His Grandkids to Call Him

Unashamed with Phil & Jace Robertson

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Ep 325 | Missy Makes Jase Squirm AGAIN & No One Likes the Name Jase Wants His Grandkids to Call Him

"Him unashamed what about you. So it's their second half of ladies day on the ashamed. Podcast since since feel is doing a eulogy today for z. Tops which is kind of weird but at the same time he was very humbled by which is really cool. I mean he only met him at one time and that was a couple of hundred navy. Interact just throughout the show. We were at some of together. Yeah but obviously that he must have had a big impact on you know. And i'm sure that talks about spiritual stopped everybody so anyway. It's all i was in on the conversations with it was it was funny that we're in two totally different worlds. The beards brought us together. And i think the spiritual conversation they were they. They enjoyed started. I thought when. I first heard that. They asked him to speak on knowing what he's going to speak about. What a cool way to introduce jesus to a whole new audience. He's going to do that. Oh yeah 'cause and so did he. Or his wife or whoever had the idea to have him. I mean they know dad's the mri n. Lisa are fair. Brides back on Today because we have. I don't know if i told you guys but we had a huge response the last time you guys were on the highest rated show time. I wasn't sure if it was. Yeah are they. Just like to watch me scorn. I think that was part of it. And that's why. I've been wanting to do it again so i was so excited with. Mississippi is shoes. I'm have already said. I've always lives at c. j. squirm again. Really just a chance to see it again as worth evan. Is jason like it. Though in anybody else is the center of attention and not here. We go start throwing haymakers if his beautiful wife is on here. He's not the center of attention. It must be this chair days. Because i is there mom in the last guys now a throw jay center. The bus seat completely disagree with that. Same whatsoever i just wanna be left alone the taste well what lullabies because jay's obviously tells stories on the pike as and so he'll tell us stories about different interactions. Y'all have or some argue murder all this of course we're only getting his. Yes i know. I know that. I remember every little detail. I'm just laying the story. Sword your favorite dad there like they explained to me one time when i brought up the fact that i didn't think this story had happened that way and my mom and dad both said these things are based on true. They put that in my brain. They say you ever seen a movie. That's based on. I feel it in for dramatic purposes cheating every roberson stories. You also gotta think about you or trained as a preacher. So you and al you know. Preachers always tend to embellish. Just a little we have a license and it was actually quite a miserable experience. I'm glad i did because there was some benefits. Learn the babol got confidence. But i was just with a bunch of nerd. Two years does look back as finally school years. That's easy years. That's not classes and that was hard. I became known as the the preaching student who had the most visit to the dean for various infractions for sleeping. I just never kid figure out that well that was one of the great qualities i learned there. It's how to sleep with your eyes open. And i'm proud of that but most of the stuff i got called in for was a violation of the rules. I was like. I thought we were here to learn about grace. You've come up with a rule system remember it was a. They had a dress code. And i'm like i'm opposed to that for biblical no tobacco products. Where those rules in effect. You think you were going to roll up in there at like nineteen twenty years old and change all those roles. Yes that's exactly what. That's exactly what i thought. And i was passionate about. I guess what it was a band. No one my own brother would not follow me. He's a story about mom dropping him as a kid went had i had to create some distance because he was pulling me down. I want to be in that. I was part of the resistance of. I was with him in spirit but in actuality now when we were dating and then you know that story of them coming down here in recreating. Y'all and all that. And i was like nah. No no because. I grew up with a dad as a preacher. And i said i'm not marrying a preacher. Like that's not happening is is years of no money and about it was not fun for me as big as like. I don't want the rest of my life to be the same thing i am. I have been label that yes sir. Well if she was married you that's exactly go out. Go out here. Yeah that's true when you think about that. What was my alternative has. Been a treasure hunter along. You know we have laid away at the media. And i'm like how did you know. Did you know this. Guy calls thorough. Tv show odds of money died. Oh guy we've established on the bug as mizzou starting with me then to jay's into willie we were all rejected by the did asking for the daughters and we were all told enough that i didn't even ask because i knew what the answer would say. We're doing it next week. Deal with it. You know so. I was not as nice as they were but so but they knew somehow they knew some our it was it was the ruggedness i guess. Well and now who is besides me. Who is your biggest fan in life. Would you say your dad my dad. Oh is sure fan. Both most of them are a lot of our interrupted too much. Although i find that funny that you get thrown of the buzz because no one interrupts more and more viciously than dad literally the other day we were on here. And i'm telling a story and he just he just is like i wasn't even talking. He just booked takes out and then. We all got giggling as tickle. Because he didn't even realize he did alto to five minutes story. Why he's called allen jones. Which i know. He's got allen jones but i never knew that it was really intrigued but i was on the edge of my seat and al said the reason that i was called the reason that happened because he had this altercation with the police officer. The reasons i've been known for alan jones all these years and he was fixed. San fills it by the way you look at the market looking john. And it was a great sermon. Seven minutes later the great down. It was like the gospels. The point of the bob and we were laughing so hard for the first four minutes of the story we. We're trying to hide it. Because you know dad if he notices. You're laughing at him. He doesn't know why that he'll decide what what is it. What's so funny. And then he was. He was actually given the point of the bible into his own study. He wasn't listening to you. Know your whole doesn't know your story of allergens. Because the whole time i was talking i caught him out of the corner of my eye. I'm talking but he's looking searching is he. He's hearing bomb among that's what he was here but see. I'm not like that when i lot of times. When we were in school they would call me and they would say you. Don't look like you're paying attention in class. I said but. I know that you were asleep. Already said that with your us. When i was asleep. I was not paying but several dams our stick my head down on my desk. Yes i was listening. I was just listening. Jas there comes a town. You just have to say you're lying would listen. I passed it balcony. Because you're a give credit typed up all of his papers you type every free lettering every good type it. look you don't realise. People have no idea not to just back in my day but like prison. School was really hard. I mean we. We had two years of study but you went to school every day. Ten months and it was eight hours a day so they figured it up. If you compare that to college hours we would have gotten over two hundred hours of university level. That's almost class in your writing papers for every one of those classes. So i mean i. I was either in class or studying for two years so they wouldn't allow you to have a job rile you there and yet i snuck out and worked. I broke the rules of cut firewood. I worked in a you know what i did as our didn't bill phillips his dad's convenience store at night down on washington street mocking bill. That's what i was doing to pick up extra bucks. plus we we started preaching. You know so. We can make a little money outbreak. Did y'all praise for what sometimes about what one hundred bucks a week. Get that from from the little country. Churches that number twenty minutes. Well gas to get to these little. We go all the way to allah which is an hour long enough to know that mris dream came true. I was going to be a not our dream jobs data so you would go with him right when we got married the week after y'all graduated and so then it was just like now what right now. Now we gotta do this for an actual living. They wanted they interned us. You know which man we got about what we were getting for support maybe a little but it one eight hundred dollars eight hundred dollars. What was fascinating is they came and recruited me after all this trouble i calls and all the shot and a member. Carl gives them but you get potential. He kept saying that. I'm like just believe him. Not my potential. Because that's don't like me right now but potential but it didn't work out but i think everybody has to figure out god's purpose for them directly an idea which was bill dot calls and do other things in the news at as a platform to share. Jesus because i really was happy that i learn the ins and outs of the bible and it probably some discipline emeli. So i'm i'm thankful for it but i might know. Thank you working for an established group. Because i'm i'm much of a troublemaker. I can't get along with that. Organization talked about before working for the charges really difficult. Because i mean it is just a you know. There's there's a political edge to it. There's so much going on in the bigger discharge the more in the fish bowl. yeah. I didn't like any. I as an intern long enough to say this is not for me so i think we're all grateful. Now that we can volunteer. You're not tied to paycheck ministries a lot more interesting and enjoy wash. Say which we got the blessed and be able to do that. This is funny. Thank you right missy. Lethal eight hundred a month night man. Now look at it. That's like a light bill. We are you know what i'm saying. I mean we were living off the whole will. That was the whole enchilada blooms several times. You know in our marriage. I was literally walking on me one visa to for yeah it. Just you know when you're walking down south need to do something. I was hoping he would get to that point. I say my money and bought a truck for grand and it pretty well was worth a grand funny because you you aren't too crazy about being breaches left. I i wound up going into full board. So why did you not think it was. I think i did not a what i consider to be. A preacher's wife was a I make mild mild soon missive woman and i was none of those things and i think also i at that point my life whenever you decided to do that i. I didn't know that. I i don't really think that i believe that. God could take away my sin that he could see me as a new creature or anybody else could see me. You know as A new person. In christ. So i had a i think allowed satan to you know. Tell me that it wasn't possible that i wasn't preacher. Wife material you know you've done too much. Be forgiven on the you belong in the club and you looked women. We were around at that. Time was margaret smith and alison as we great women your compare with these and misses. Mom peggy right now. She was so yeah. Never just i didn't feel worthy of the calling. I think it's interesting as we kinda. Share that tom in our life. All four of us. That you know how god can take us at such a young immature age with our immature thoughts of why we don't want to be a part of something do it anyway and then bless us along the way to wear now. That's all i wanna do is talk about jesus to people and try to convince them to see e. is and try to fall in love with him and let him luigi and so before it was just like i don't want to. I love god. But i don't wanna do that. I don't want to put myself out there for no money saw perspective. So let's take our first break. So i should have asked mom on the last podcast about dad's underwear because you know we're always saying did those because he's a as i said how do you get your underwear. He says i have no idea. They just show up in a door and so a mom has been buying them all these years. I'm trying to get him to try. He says he hasn't gotten a cop a pair. 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Meaning i mean literally your neighborhood community in spiritual ways to help people so describe that a little bit both of you kind of how that came to be and how different that was from us being here our whole lives and obviously connected to the church and we've done ministry whether we were paid to do it or not but it's a different feeling in it when you go into this new area where you don't know people and yet you get an the opportunity so talk a little bit about that well for me We went to for a reason to help me with school and being close to her family heart cousins and so i found myself with a lot of time on my hands and i'm not used to that and after you know binging net flicks and all that when she go to school on. This is not what i wanna do. I know i'm here for her. And try to help. Parbat i i got to do something to i think we can all say for most of our lives that we've been very active in ministry of some sort and it it always almost always involves people in our home so Of course jessica was right around the corner from me which was great and then i met Had a have a friend that lives about ten minutes away. That had invited me to one of her child's birthday parties said then i got to meet a couple of other women there and we started talking and My friend jenna said you know. have you thought about. Maybe starting a lady's bible study. And i thought yeah to quote feel and alabama's nasa's is better nine but my fight was i don't want to go in and just like start pushing myself on people i don't want to you know it's just not really my personality. I want i want. Jesus lead the way and had already been praying about what today. What today and so she said. You know you can bring jessica. And i can bring my friend. Jackie is like this is a great idea yes so called jas that night and super excited about it like what should i do. He said i would start with john. You don't know where these women are coming from. Spiritually the book of john start with the book of john. And i have always been involved in bible studies that either created or would go to where it was prepared so at you watch a video or you read a book or you. Just sit and listen to someone asks you questions that you have the answers to or you know etc and i thought you know. I think we should just read. Let's just read a couple of chapters a week and discussed which was kind of nerve wracking for me. Because when i when they came to the house. I had nothing written on piece of paper. And that's not like me. Sounds like luscious. Lucius rigged it. What what did you get out of that. And that turned that bobble said he turned into an amazing experience. Not just for women but for me and when we finished that book of john it was around the holidays and we said let's just keep going. Let's just go into acts. And so i will say that every week every tuesday night at six thirty. Those women were at my house. I was the only one with that little kids. So mom was like a just kind of a more peaceful place and every tuesday night we ended up growing closer to each other and glow growing closer to jesus and understanding what he's about and i honestly fell more in love with jesus during this last year of this quietness that i had this. What do i do have time on my hands. I thank god used peacefulness that quietness even loneliness. Sometimes to grow me and then to also impact others and so what right before we left austin we had a community event that these women and i discussed it. Let's just share what we've learned with the community of austin so we rented out one of the theaters. They are close by our neighborhood and invited invited south austin and we had a number of women show up and tears and prayers. It was it was basin right about talked a little bit about on the podcast. Yeah well it was. Yeah and i was there a whole lot. 'cause modified responsibilities here but because a lot of people you think you tell the story before but i remember telling thing was on the golf course you know that i had a house in austin but i was here my wife's there and he's like well. I'm so sorry you know to explain. Yeah i get it because they just you would think that would never work. Of course we were doing it for our dollars to win. Dipa jessica there but you know we're we're busy so as a facebook measures the leasing because we were similar and said did you split up. Oh yeah no no no. We're good. But i did the same thing. I mean i was supporting missy you know in our venture and like when i would come down a few times. She would have their husbands calm until we would do an event together. But you know we've just learned. I think since we're not preachers like in an organization. I mean i. I based my ministry on the book of john how jesus interact with people he would always go out where they were and have these conversations seems small but then it develops into a bigger conversation and then sparks or thinking about that woman at the well. She wound up being the spokesman for the whole town and it all started from just one conversation and i think you did that in austin through those women and we try to do that just in our normal is always think about that obscure passage that jesus had over and over and over that said he who has ears. Let him here which nobody ever talks about what that means. But it's like he was just how whoever it is wherever you are right and a model line and all my speeches is no. I'll look like a preacher. But i'm actually a believer laugh. Because i don't like a preacher but i do think god has chosen us in this way to be real and not just on sunday. These are house gatherings and and just talking about jesus so that's basically what we do together. It's not just about jesus because you want to come to jesus and you want build come to jesus. But why does she want us. He loves us. He created us and he wants us to be together as a community and as a family of believers and so. That's also what happened during that. Those months and my living room on my back porch is. We became a jesus community and they these women. These women are going to be friends for the rest of life. I mean they're amazing. We still talk. Almost i mean every week for sure we have a group text message checking on each other and i forget that i forget all of that. During duck dynasty. Things have changed because of that guy. Honesty and people's perception of us have change because of that. But these women they. They didn't care about all that and i love that because they love may for who i am flaws and all we talked about mistakes and flaws and failures. And they're there and i'm like that that's exactly what jesus created us to do and to be together and i found that in austin now now that we're not going to be back up really missing them. Like that was the best part of the whole movie was finding them. Yeah so at kind of americans was similar. Because like you said when you're when you work for the church and especially if you're the main person the main guy then people bring people to you. I mean that's what had problems marital problems and then you'll have been open about our struggles but in this case we went in and by who we were either. I mean they found out who we were connected to but so we were meeting them. We were just walking around our neighborhood in in our neighborhoods mad. Half of it is sort of semi retirees. And you know people and so everybody's out working in their yard and everybody stops and talks to one and so that's how you meet people and we just started walking around and meeting people and it was amazing just because against conversation season with great grace and salt how much they picked up on. There's something different about these. i mean i. They knew immediately. There was something different about us. And it didn't take long before those began to bear fruit in terms of a lot of deeper conversations. People sharing their hearts and stuff like that. I mean what what has been your aunt. Let's take a break missy. Alford cut my hair though the night and it turned into a point of conflict surpressed. She's like. I don't think i have the skills and i said no one will notice. What did you tell the story recently about hanging by your hair a thicket so that happened. I thought i won. You'll make it well. 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Yeah yeah so. Can you just start a church here. And we're like no. I have a churchyard and i'm working. I'm working myself to death. Free purge already so how we started out was we started having different ones into our home to have dinner with us and to have conversation and We would give them all copy of our book and When we had when we lived in the condo we had a little couple That was in the condo area with us so when we decided to move they decided to move with us so they moved right next door to us next door to conduct and we i mean we were. We had talked to both of them. But we were just kinda beginning. It's not like we were instant best friends but we liked each other and they right. We don't want to stay here for our be here so they. They bought a house next to us. And mike and molina now are very special to us. malia is She has done everything in her life. As i when i grow up i wanna be like you me But she's just She's a genuine person and she loves us and so does her family but You know whenever whenever you meet somebody you never know what their struggle is because every body has one And so when you get to talk to somebody you learn what their struggle is. Sometimes you've been through that struggle. Sometimes you haven't. But i think as christians god always gives us the answer no matter if you've been through it or not he always gives you the answer to tail someone as to you know maybe not how to fix it but had to overcome it and had a rise above it and so. That's kind of what you and i been doing as far as the Having people in You know our first time that we had a couple. We had two couples in and You know halfway through our meal one of them you know just started crying. Sure knows sharon stuff about know things going on so And she got me was. She felt safe enough the first time we had her in our home to share with us. Some of the really tough stuff. She's been doing with this last year. And i thought man what a what a humbling thing that someone's willing to share something that deep you know even though we'd known them and talk to around the neighborhood we'd never had a deep conversation in the minute we went there. She felt safe enough. You know. and she said we've we amylase. We haven't told anybody that not even our families. Here's some of the things we've been struggling with. So i just. I felt like that was a humbling opportunity and i thought you know god. Has this here for that purpose. Like you said i mean there's a time of difficulty because it's hard to be apart when we're apart you know but then at the same time i can do so much you know with the time that you have had one thing that Jason boe spoke separately at at a little church awesome. When we were there was one of the things that i said you know. Sometimes you have your speech prepared or not. We kind of ad lib a lot when we speak but one thing i said i heard myself say it and had to say it again was i said. Sometimes i said the reason that i'm here may not be the reason that i'm supposed to be here and i was like let me let me think about that. You the reason that. I'm here may not be the the the reason that i was supposed to be here because the reason we came was different from feel like the reason that got us me and the way that god used me so we might have our will and our desire in our plan but then let's be open and make sure that god is leading the hallway because he will most likely hasn't been way bigger mine for and that's what happened with us in austin was like missy said that about not having any not anything written on the paper. You're you're in your house. It's not maybe a monday night or wednesday night or why do the same thing speeches. Because i've always been kinda shy about speaking which y'all confident. When i went to the school. They helped confidence. But i don't use notes. Because i view it the same way she does is. I'm just trying to introduce the lord and when our talking you know y'all y'all speeches incredible when y'all do a marriage seminar whatever because you're vulnerable and open and i think that's what people do show up at your house and start. You know unveiling all these the secrets but it reminds me that colossians three at the end. He talked about the first. He starts to set model things. Above where where. The lord is against the anti toss but all the relationships how husbands and wives and children in pan and social classes. And then he's like whatever you do you work at it with all your heart as to the lower. Not for me and really. That's what we're trying to do. I mean when you think about our show. Our little duck show that came out people were. They thought they were joined us. Because we were having on and doing all these crazy things but it was really the lord in us on how we get along. And that's when they hear speak that's what we do and we're doing the same thing maybe with our new show which mris going to be. A part of today are nervous about that which is kind of interesting. Because i didn't know that. You and jessica. We're going to be like do anything with it because i don't know about side of it so but but it's want to get your take on it because really you are the reason the j. zooming into treasure because if you had if you had a on you made which codes you about posting things on social media wait wait what. What are y'all attributing. This all started over that one post. I was down in the yard and i. You didn't say hey babe. I'm face to take a picture of you in vulnerable position. The lawyer in the front yard that at the plant that yeah well. That was my my point. Was you wanted to do to redo the plantation in an y'all bought it into a bed and breakfast had that desire you have opened up the opportunity for him to ever get into tragic. Because that's really what started right. You will be out here. She don't want to be doing bed and breakfast so i need something to do that out there and she was like. There's an old house out here in town where no one lives anymore. There's not a town anymore. Literally surrounded by fields two hundred years ago and this whole place is out there. Mrs light because she likes to take old rough looking things and refined right which is why she married. Anita that still got some work to do there. But as a lifelong denial about her gold digger. Attendance she's got you digging for go. You're actually tigger really. She's out there. And i'm out there with a with a hole dug and i'm looking while she was driving by on her way out and she took a picture of me and put on social media. He's always hunting something. Well that's true. It was it was genius and that one pitcher launch where now this has become real their cameras back in the yard here. Let's go find something but everytime camera crews show up. They can't help it 'cause they look over there and they're like oh that's why like like you didn't know but they just can't help it. They gotta dig into this happened. A mirror go whatever. And then they wanna interviewer and say well. How did you get started. They can't help it. They just got to take you know they're to keep going. Let's take another great so mri may have been the initiator but then unashamed nation is now the ones that because we asked him he was like. Do we do this or not. Yeah you say no if you say. This is a bad idea. We're not. I mean think about. Do you wanna follow somebody around and watch them. Beep beep hap. How interesting is that. sounds like. I mean a show about that. I don't know that i get it. Here's the reason they're not following around you because of your beeping machine. Conran's you because you're in enigmatic on tv just like you are. Here is the same thing for a look. What did you think. Matt i know it many. If you wanna comment anywhere definition. I would agree is difficult to interpreter. Understand mysterious. There you go. They want to figure it out. They still do not figure out the money with smile steering finger out that. That is out so with joe. I think it's gonna be great. Because i told actually the one of the producers i this is gold because jay. You never know what you're going to get jep is laid back but super funny japa- superfund those four days of filming jap did a lot of stuff that made me laugh and i thought it was just because i hadn't seen him in a while whereas a brother in in we're all close in different ways. We'll have different rices with each other. But i mean that was my actually one of my favorite aspects of the idea of the show was because jason jet jet guide close over doing this together because they never were that close. I got him. I'm close to jim. Because i'm like a uncle almost like a dad. 'cause we've helped him and worked with them and stuff. Well i got. I got drew into this because of murray who has become one of my best friends but he was going through cancer and he was a metal detector and i knew nothing about it and he taught me everything. I know our trying to help a friend out because he was like. That's the only thing keeping me alive. He actually said that he's like can hunter yard. What am i going to say. He just said it was the only thing keeping him alive. I hope you dad. Yeah that's quite a long. They're very come on over and find this yard but then he started finding cool stuff and the more i i went to the bible and studied. How many times is it. It talks about god comparing finding us has lost. In the reason. Jesus yeah hung out with the riffraff and they're so much about treasurer. And where your heart is there. Your treasure will be also and i just. I thought you know what i mean. This may sound coy. But i thought there's that much in there about the bible relates ameri. Go give this a try. But you like. That's an analogy. Because god and jesus are using those stories as an analogy to what the real treasure is and so. That's all. We started talking about how to do this. I was like it's it's gotta be you know for better la a lack of a better word deeper than just finding the treasure in the ground. Let's find out like the treasure. Is there because somebody made it for a certain purpose hundreds of years ago or whatever and then let's say what does that the people were they doing during that time. And how are they living. Were the relationships like and what was going on here and then said maybe be able to flesh that out a little bit and try to get those relationships to be honored and that time in history to be honored for the good without ignoring the bad. Because there's some bad history we all know but how were. What's the way that we can do that. And i i love that. That's why i love the place that we bought because it was built in eighteen forty seven by hand. So you're digging in the yard. And i'm looking at the the hand sawn boards and everything that's going on inside the house because i think those are beautiful and i wanna say like what was going on. I would love to know what was going on here. What was the family doing. And so i think that both of those aspects on a show are gonna be amazing. That was. That was very encouraging. Today's about it because one of the things struggles was economic. Talked a lot about it. Was you know people are trying to erase history now. We don't talk about his. But i was. I was just absolutely would do. We need a show. We need less may history. Great again i mean. Let's let's talk about it honestly and openly blest not try to destroy our west. Yeah i was going to use the bad things in the past because we've already found some things that you're like. Oh what do you say about that. Y'all found a a bullet from the civil war. And i i just say because honestly when i see that my first thought is i believe all people are valuable me. It's a reminder to look at things through spiritual in was crazy about. This is what we were talking. Just sent me this pitcher. 'cause i guess they're filming out at our house are they He said hey. I just found this in your yard. So i'm not sure what that is or something from it was. Yeah it was like some piece of how. And i don't know how i could miss that because of hunting mike. Well he's a little change in the earth. You never know what happened. A little rain pretty awesome though because he thought i was expert in has become. Now here's another of the show. The old green add monsters you this. I mean europe has become the newbie of this show and look not by design. He just because wherever he goes he finds junk and nothing of value shock. He's actually the cool. Manson one man's junk and other man we got. We got to see that interview is the. let's take our last break so in this last segment. There's couple of as i wanted to talk about one is you guys are going to be jason's mentioned you. Guys are gonna be grandparents talk about that they are the grandest things that you will ever have. Are the grand bouts that it just. It's a little weird to deal with being old man this is. This is what. I'm looking forward to in growing old is having the grandkids for sure. So our our oldest granddaughter is carly's watching today she's fifteen and so i tell you the first one this'll be your oldest will pretty much set the pace for everybody going forward. 'cause they get that i it depends on how many years are between them they. They'll call you. The first thing is so have you thought about. Have you thought about what you want to be called. Because i think it's you know it may not happen suggestions about what. Tell me rock iraq papa rock as was the only one that said thank you. This is gonna work bob rolling. If you opinion what. I wanna be. I gave it and then you just destroy. I'm what do you call. That was the first thing that i write rockies. There's already the rock has the wrong. I'm just rock. So what is your you be role. Yeah what do you do. You want to hear my grandparents rock and roll. I think that's awesome. That's pretty good rock and roll. It used to be outward- we'll need some some kind of sustainability in their life. And i'm offering to try to be a rock thank you. They'll be laughed at school. I don't think that that is very. They're only my granddad iraq. You have grandma murat for grand salad. I didn't know this is going to be such a shot for me. I did it have anything. Maybe i should be really prepared for this. Because i don't like the way. This is read and brightened up there. They're like we don't we don't know what do you want to be called so i don't i don't i don't know acid rock until i hear better idea. Well can be role. I like this. Why don't we ask the unashamed. Shame thank you. We need your suggestions. Say look i'll be honest. I don't think memo and pepple are gonna fly. So what are your kids co. That's what joe thomas. You wanna version of that. Everybody does what he wants to be. Unique is what he's saying. I wanna be unique. Because i don't wanna be in a restaurant or someone's say ma'am all like eight winning turnaround to have if they say rock and really only what what what are. Y'all what are y'all call. Pap ma'am ma'am. That's right ma'am well. I don't know that we didn't come up. Did we come along. That came from swiss. Swiss family robinson. other show. Don't ask about any kind of wholesome holiday. He doesn't know any about anything. Not that much younger than i am. Man that's all that was on back then. He didn't watch tv at all. So you bring up up a wholesome show about that trash. I didn't watch anything with income. And josey wales or one of those is what al we only channels. So what are they gonna say one comment about your name. Because i worked at the woman's clinic for twelve years. And i'll think i could affectionately call it anyone hap- as long as you lead their smear off don. When they called you mail they should just go you sir. Oh yes ma'am yes. Sars or rock role. It's not mr mann and mr. so what are they. What are your kids. Call your parents mamie and poppy. We'd been poppy. Poppy ma'am okay. Field poppy yes he did. Your kids are grown name blitz. come up with give everybody a name. That's what people do. Otherwise we're gonna call you jas. Us gave you my thinking. Arizona unashamed nation since in pearl loving pearl moral and your iraq. Yeah that's kind of treasury and metal detect metal. Embrace this time of your life so it's al at restoration. Productions dot net samir suggestion. Tom deal nina name for the show. Mississippi quit worrying about people will come up with it but we got a lot of names that we did very creative interesting but they were. They looked into them. They the copper in life and they don't like it they say it's too on the nose like they don't like that like catchy or whatever. I tried lot last podcast. Because i thought that name i came up with was also but no one likes it. Mill is that that's not. That's not trash bags. Meet rock thought. It should be a depiction of us. You're a dr bag. That said the exact same thing. Because before i came to jesus. I'm technically alert by since online metal detecting from jesus on my key turns the dirtbag into a new creation also a second meaning to that as we dig in the dirt and we're looking for bags of so this is the subtitle under the what he just so much for the task say and and it appears i won't people of the world who are not believers to watch so i think they would more willing to watch something called dirtbag then holy rollers. We'll head said nyman at halloween. I just use for all right so we only got a couple of minutes left busy. But you and i talked about this. I want to mention a last month. Was cleft and craniofacial awareness. Month so tells gives a little update on me. A mood and things are going to this this. This has really grown over the past year even for the pandemic and all. It's been quite shocking. 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167. Upcoming Attractions - Favourite Movie Scene of All Time, Space Force, Escape At Dannemora + Coffee & Kareem Reviews and more!

Midnight Double Feature - A Film Podcast

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167. Upcoming Attractions - Favourite Movie Scene of All Time, Space Force, Escape At Dannemora + Coffee & Kareem Reviews and more!

"Miss upcoming attractions episode. Where talking space boss plus the new trailer for extraction also reviews escape it down. Amara and coffee and Korean plus the MDF gang. Oh this is upcoming attractions episode of Midnight Double Feature later South Africa Matthew Matthew Matthew. Welcome back to another episode of coming attractions. Stop trying to make tee-shirt. It's not going to happen. It's already and I'm wearing it how you doing what's up. I'm a K. K. How are you? I'm good guys if you don't. We are scraping. The bottom of the barrel escape Addenda Amara and coffee and cure aimed. That's the big reviews today. It's strap in. Are they both net flicks projects? Coffee and cream is an Affleck's project and Skype it down. Amara is not That is that Ed on on showtime like that is an actual definitely scraping the barrel. Yeah Showtime LET'S. Let's dive right into guys. Thank you so much for joining us here. Like I said this is not coming attractions up beside. We're going to be going through the latest news trailers. We're going to be going through a couple of things that we've seen and then we're going to be playing what's called the MDF gay we ask you a question On Al Social Media In our off duty which is L. facebook group Basically we just pose a question there. We also community to chime in. We passed a little pole Get a little get a little community sense as to what Everyone's feeling Fix this question's a bit of a doozy. It's what is your favorite film sane of all time. That was intentionally vague and intentionally I wanted to make it as wide as possible to say what what we'd get and we've got some pretty good ones we we. We're GONNA be revealing those soon so plays if you'd like to get involved in that that's the odds of potty. That's facebook group. Where also on twitter? Which is that and the pod and we're on instagram which is at Manado facial and we currently still have a little bit of a competition going at the moment. Where if you write and reveals on Itunes screen shot that review and send it to midnight I will feature at Jameel Dot Com. You can go into running to win. You'll very earn feature presentation episode and what that means is calling an eye and either Danny All Matt. Oba's doesn't you know it might even just be main main calling. You don't have a say in that by the way you don't you don't get to choose Stuck with one of us but the two of us at least The yeah if you if you send that that revere and you'll pick then we'll cover you'll movie and those are very lengthy as a two to three hours long sometimes or even London three hours. It's just call in and I usually riffing on a weekend about a particular movie. And Yeah if you'd like to hear your movie covered then feel free to write and reveals options and send it to me. Not all of Asia at James L. DOT com. Matthew what is that? I hope this week are first topic. This week is not a common occurrence. I want a rant about something positively which I do. I really want to talk about these photos. Released for Space Force. The the new comedy show coming to net flicks How how how much? How aware are you of this project on a quite a bit about show? I'm actually I think you'll coming into this. A little little light by known about it for a while. But I'M GONNA be honest like when I first heard about it. I was like this is fucking dumb and then these furs came out and like this is the most hyped of baneful a comedy. Tv show in a long time. Tell me why so like from the looks of things okay. So for those unfamiliar. It's a riff on the Space Force established real life by trump and this is their comedic. Take on whatever that is because even most people today still don't know what that is and I can really Santa's images where they're going to take this and I'm just looking at this genius plus because I'm seeing I'm seeing amazing cast where everyone sort of staying male lane of the type of character they known for playing so well and let's go through. Let's just go through this man. I talked to a party person by person. And then let's bounce each other like that also we should say it's Kirk created by a state corral and the offices. Crank Dat are Greg Daniels Sir. Already people earn for comedy We'll as we dunstall the I. I'm guessing not but either way about the format on cat still comedy Archives first of all we stayed corral. Who We all know and love and from the vibe of this man. I'm getting like he's going to be really tapping into his character from the office. It was Michael. This lost them again. Don't you fucking do this to me I on I will not You know what I'm done fucked this episode sale Michael Michael Scott. That's it I was gonNA say Scon- because that's the car that happens. That happens in the office so hiring for another Co host. Okay so the genius of Michael Scott. That's it sorry. It's been a long day. The Janus back character in the office was. He's he really wants as much of a jerk. Stir as he is. He's often trying to be the best trying to be respected and no one ever takes him seriously and like that's that's one of the many sources of his outbursts and and stuff and with all these photos you can already see that coming out and I'm guessing this is the direction of showers. GonNa go like. Nobody takes space four seriously as a branch of the government and the just multiple. Firdaus here where he just looks like really unimpressed. And I'm like Oh my God we're GonNa get some Michael Scott Flavor coming back and if this if that's the direction of like the the engine of the Charlotte like I'm just double on board man. That's his something. I gotta say that about. Save corrales character. He is playing in general so he's trying to be playing like you know the Dhamma that Michael Scott is. So He's earned his position and they can medically touch on that with his way too many like badges of honor on his jacket. Which I think's kind of funny. So yeah so he's a general. You're saying right. Yeah he's a general. Let's let's move on. Let's let's stay up a little. Johnny Bench Wallets so you want to talk about. Benchmarks are man Joe Bench. What's ties this? Because he's being like the goofball and all these but obviously it looks like he's touching on his genre alfio vowed that we love parks and REC. I love him in everything he does. It's amazing and always like this is one further here. He's like he's going to find any sort of like looking like calling and roll like we've got stayed curl like earn so you can get a sane to go. Though sounds heavy Alice's I love it. We got it there. I think some people are like. Oh Yeah I get what? He's saying John Malkovich. Our will is the curveball for me. He not done much comedy in the past his his tomato gutter isn't he? Is he recognizes from it. Did he talking about Ben Schwartz? I'm John Malkovich. Oh John Malkovich Lia. He's he's he's he's done his fisher comedies. Like he's he's he's the funniest okay. So he's not really in comedies. But he is the funniest parts of the movies that as in like for some reason the only movie that's coming to my head is red with Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren and Morgan Freeman. And he was the best part in that movie. E can you can pick out as many John Malkovich visas. You want I mean it was in the Gulf transformers movie as well so but yes I mean. He's definitely got chops official. Yeah I'm getting the VIBE. He's like some sort of authority figure. Some sort of scientists. Do you know if there's any information Mary's character out but you know he's playing scientists. Yeah that makes sense of speaking of scientists We have Jimmy are young. Also a white Kurt He's he's I love him. He's in Silicon Valley. He's also great stamp. Comedian retirement What's the Boston the Boston Boeing movie? patriots is a pigeon. Yeah Patriots Day. I'm I'm lucky. Hoping he doesn't do an accent on this because he hasn't been stereotyped but you know either way he'll be hilarious. He's he's real funny then. Of course we've got probably the next big one. Is Lisa Kudrow Phoebe from friends? And I'VE GOT D. Do you know if they've announced better character. Because I haven't read anything but I put a theory honestly. I've been following. This has autism should be so. I'm I'm guessing she. I'm getting a Major Hillary Hillary Clinton vibe from her nurse. She's playing some unnamed. Maggie it'd be Be a made up character. I'm wondering if she's like a politician or I'm not gonNA say President but you never know. I'm guessing she some sort of authority figure as well but come on. It's great to see her in a lead role in a Sitcom Star comedy. I've seen edgy. Like guest spots in a lot of comedies and stuff. I I don't know I am Rick. Amrik is a pretty big actor as well. He's from Super Right. He's from the TV show as well He's he's always good presence due to love that guy and then is there anyone else left or yeah. I'm surprised you didn't mention this one From had made Jessica saying Oh right. Yes hilarious amazing lover. What else does that aside she? She's a bit allowed from is just like Oh good. I'll just like she. She's she's like the female man. Look I'm our humane? I'm allowed person as well. So I'm I'm often drawn to those personalities. You and I are like polar opposites. I think we can't be at times That there's this low truth to that statement. I I just WANNA go okay. I don't want to give a little bit of speculation here. Don't spend too much time on this as well but this the first season is only ten episodes which kind of leads me to think that A spending a lot of money on this and therefore they can only afford ten episodes more bay. This is not. This is going to be a little dramatic as well. Like there's going to be some drama and so. I mean like it's not like the office that has twenty two episodes or fifteen episodes or something like that. It's just right up ten episode thing Which makes me question the runtime of each episode. If it's going to be like a twenty minute episode like the Office. Then ten of us is is just not going to cut it for me. I'm just like dude. I need more of this. So what do you think about that? I think that's an interesting point. The fact that's airing on net flicks Maine's so much of what we can. Safely speculate goes out the window because Netflix slack The rules of standard broadcast. But usually when you see a ten episode or something around that thing on Netflix usually looking to our long shirts our shows you're looking at more interweaving staff but when I look at these colors and his vibe it looks like a half hour comedy to me this is just based off some still images and almost no information anything so there's just hold off for a bit before we get tired and five of it`ll. Yeah but I'm assuming it's a half hour comedy and I think you could be right. There's a lot of names Ben. Schwartz was literally. Just sonic the HEDGEHOG. I imagine Jomo which is not shaped to come by two and I I wouldn't be surprised of Lisa. Kudrow not a main character of feeling she could be like a reoccurring character. She's she's billed as recurring. She's not emotion. Y- right yeah that makes sense then yeah. She was the same with them. Burjak horsemen which was also net flix project. I'm not net. Expounded shows often used the same actors? I wonder if that happens in. Their contracts is something on an. I don't WanNa Guy Pasta one of the writers of episode nine. He's a songwriter. Pull Labor stain if you remember that name. He plays Toby from the office. Oh Fuck Yeah. That's awesome man. That's pretty cool. He's very talented right. I think I look normally on midnight. Double failure we don't cover costing we also scraping a little bit because of the situation. But what I want to say also is usually when you see a sitcom or comedy show. It's the weather. Usually casting is usually a vehicle for one big comedic actor and the rest like unknowns upcoming. Stop usually the case. This is like the first one. I've seen the WOLRD SEC. All I recognize almost everyone in this some almost everyone he so that's pretty cool. And despite his voters cycle of applying very familiar type roles and I think that's really exciting. So that's why I wanted to cover that and thank you become to my tedtalk and I can't wait for China. I'm Canas well. Let's listen to the next item or discussion We have a trial for gold extraction. Sign Chris Hemsworth and produced by JOE and Anthony Russo. Real real quick. Here's my take on it snooze. Yeah I think for me. I'm getting twenty-one Bridges Vibes which is like well made movie forget American film as the way I would forget about action film but well done for forgettable action film like I wouldn't call it Angeles fallen level or mild twenty two. It's it's like a Sunday night at the movies taught thing in. I don't expect it to be amazing. Look it looks up my alley. I think the action looks like it's well directed from what I can say. The trailer doesn't have a lot of that. Yeah like don't expect to change the industry or anything crazy like that. But you know a lot of Chris. Hemsworth projects outside of four haven't really grabbed my attention. This one has made me. I'M NOT GONNA say. Grab my attention. But it like nudged. My attention makes sense. Is that our net flicks. I guess I'll watch it cool. Okay look his my. Here's my thing it's a first time director. Sam Hogg Rife Direct Up. But here's what I love about the research brothers. They're giving this Guy Osama grave a shot at directing because Sam `Hogra was the stunt coordinator on most of the model movies Endgame Infinity Wall Ragnarok Even Atomic Blonde Suicide Squad dipping waters today say that Civil War And then it just keeps going even like the Wolverine and stuff like. He's he's a big time stunt guy so I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the action scenes a real stage and stuff like that but it's always interesting to see how time director handles deficits movie especially in action like this which might be decently budgeted. I'm guessing it somewhere. Thirty forty five million amok Like it's not like it's ten million dollars Namibia or anything like that but yeah and Chris Hemsworth makes like some really weird choices sometimes like okay. Look this isn't a witch who is but he was in a movie called black hat black hat. Sorry and Black Hat is directed by Michael. Man who was a fucking legend right. He directed collateral in hate So you know if you're if you're wanting to sign up to a movie it's probably best to be you know it's probably best as directed by McMahon but that one that may be regarded as Michael Mann's biggest flop like that is not a good movie. It's barely coherent Chris Hemsworth I don't know I don't really I don't really know where where he's going with his career like you know. Sometimes he dips his ties into communism houses into action territory even like sometimes it's sci-fi with men in black and stuff. I don't feel like Hollywood. Hasn't really figured out how to use them yet beyond four. I'm glad you mentioned this because I was just about to say I was just thinking. I think right as might have trouble writing for him or it's hard to find scripts appeal to his always talents in one. Because why we know we can do comedy really well. And he looks like an action star. Sir It makes sense to put him in an action comedy but I think the only other action comedy outside. Thorpe takeoff is the God awful man black international outside of that. He's other done really serious. Sort of action drama or his done straight up comedy and just good in the straight up comedy but never laid role. He's always like a surprise cameo something and he'll or you'll have supporting pot but action. It's like it just this really over the top serious. I think he's second military film. I think he's dumb and like there's never going to blow people away in I. It's like it's like a jarred but it's a it's a role you'd expect jarred Butler attack. You know so I think like I mean. Sometimes I work right like I really enjoyed. That he now is Which is the Modern Day military thriller? You know I kind of have in affinity for military thrillers as well learn survive with Quebec and stuff like that so if they'd done well Written well if the directive well shot well You Know I. It has the potential to be engaging but I didn't really get that from this trial now I mean yeah for sure I think should be. He should be taken the scraps from Dwayne Johnson. Like type roles that dwayne Johnson tixx atop roles. He should do because not only Canadian. Comedy and look action like action will but I think Chris Hemsworth is chance of being more relatable as well. I think he has an sir. I really wish I could see him doing those type of projects. I think you'll sorry like he's the top actor. He wants to do stuff the he thinks personally. Cool like he's out of think he's chasing the money for a Lotta these projects. I think he goes all fucking sense. I don't know for sure. He's not my wish she was. He doesn't reply to my texts. I can't tell you personally. Honestly like it he. He doesn't need a movie career if he looks the way he does. He doesn't need a fucking movie career. Dude he's gotta live fucking set shit our man. That's that's extraction saying this saying this right. Yeah it's on Netflix. That'd be that'd be dumb not to watch it like unless I don't know. What else is on Netflix? Yeah what else does that a man? Let's let's get into reviews of the episode. I'M GONNA kick it off with escape at down tomorrow. So you're a fifty one year old woman who's been with the same man for twenty years twenty one years so we can have an adult conversation que. Did you have sex with these? Two INMATES NO FEAR IN MY FOLKS. We can arrange a get together soon down there every night. I'm cutting pipe bomb to win the mark. All you do is sleep only knows. Bonn marriage took the people in the marriage. And sometimes you don't know so you won't be part of PIPEDREAM. I WANNA be a part of your dream. Tamara is a prison drama. His an escape series. Miniseries it's seven episodes long It on showtime a believe loss year Started last year and his the fascinating thing. All seven episodes are directed by Ben Stiller. The show was created by Ben Stiller. That sure okay. Yeah Yeah And it's based on a true story about to To convicts who successfully escaped from Donaghmore prison And the costing in this is absolutely insane. it's Benicio Del Toro Who plays down the name of Richard Matt Real Life Prisoner Richard Matt Patricia Arquette who played Tillie Mitchell and pull diner replied David Sweat And then this warning cost is rounded out by Bonnie Hunt David Morse this show is astounding like it is. It is absolutely incredible. What pensyl- was able to pull off? Here this is seven allies worth of content and I started and finished at this weekend. It is gripping from sought to finish Benicio del Toro and pull any a fantastic but I think the real. Mvp here's Patricia Arquette. Who put on so much weight to play this actor play. This person like she's absolutely unrecognizable. It's actually it's actually insane like these very unlikeable characters that Richard Matt Tilley Mitchell and David Sweat than not likeable people. The Shire does a good job of equalizing who you're supposed to feel sorrowful and who you're not really supposed to feel sorrowful 'cause the end of this. I mean his his his a spoiler. Right guys spoiler alert. If you're planning on watching this All of our visa spoiler let's unite if you've had the sound clip than unites. Ball's coming Ma. You're GonNa Watch this because I'm going to basically ruined this. We spoil on any sport anyway. All right well this is. I mean you know you can find this pretty easily because it's a public. It's pretty public So in real life and in the Shire The guys managed to escape with with the help of path pitcher shock character. Tillie Mitchell And they end up spending a few weeks on the run. They end up in the mountain region in forest And Richard Matt ends up Ends up Killed by the police. He just yeah. He goes out on a high note and David. Sweat ends up being recaptured. But the way the Don and the whites told it sounds very simple. But it's actually. It's actually really interesting to see how these two prisoners were able to manipulate this This person who worked at the prison in order to achieve their ends And then it's also a really interesting to say the interplay between Richard Matin David Sweat as they make their getaway and they start to trust us to break down like okay in the prison. We trust each other to get out but here in the wild. It's Doug a dog and it's just it's just engrossing to watch and it's just absolutely fascinating and I couldn't recommend it any high man this is. This is one of the best mini series of Sane. And it's definitely not going to get a second season because it's obviously based on a true story And that story is so yeah escape it down tomorrow Probably give it it is. It is a little slow so I'M NOT GONNA give it ten out of ten I. It is a slow burn if you're not into shows that take their time if you're not into shows that I guess there's there's no shootouts you know what I mean like. There's no there's no crazy foot chases car is is or anything like that. It's just three main central characters and the interplay between each of these characters and the manipulation that happens between the two prisons and the one civilian that. That's what you're there for Yeah this is a nine nine and a half out of ten pretty close to present man then silicon an absolutely fantastic job with this show. Also go off to check. That one out of sounds sounds like a lot. Yeah it is it is. It is a lot and it's heavy I mean like I said seven episodes pretty easy to bang out fuck. Yeah let's try and move. I saw coffee and cream. Which is right now net flicks. Let's check it out. You didn't sound too excited to go back to school. Ask that you pick your month with my mom dated just one guy. We became a grown ass man. I love documentaries on net flicks about why that's so sick and I think that's the difference. Fuck out on my face sarcophagi and I'll just come out and say this if you look at the reviews on this film it's not doing too well. It's Colorado wasn't rotten tomatoes pretty fucking lar-. I want to say this. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's legitimately enjoyed the film The funniest movie of saying it's not going to change your fucking life but I- legitimately enjoyed it so I was really surprised when I heard it was getting really negative reviews Basically it's clearly low budget but starring starring at Helms kind of typically doing his awkward. Stick that in only does. And he's a cop who's too scared to stand up for himself or be aggressive or anything and has partnered with these girlfriends Twelve year old son and cream and together. They've got some Some gangsters out to kill them and I have to like save the day and I have to figure out the which which cop is dirty. You've done from size. It's sounds like something that I've seen. Eight hundred million times four. It is it is. It's a very typical body cop. Generic that you can tell. The screener are trying to do. Anything new revolutionary. And so you have to. I think even when you just look at the pasta you know that already so you go in knowing the not gonNa try to anything new so the fill. This lives and dies on. Its lops if you come here if you come to see me like this the plot. You're not watching the movie correctly. That's that's what I think. You ought to judge a film based on like what it's trying to do and does do that effectively. I don't think it's fair to judge a Quinton Tarantino movie by the same standards you judge some fucking shitty movie like an indie feature or something sir like. I try judges movie based on. I'm not expecting the plot. Surprise me. Be Good solid. Coating movie made me laugh and a lot of the jokes land. It's not perfect. They're definitely I think they re use a lot of like gay jerks which feel like. They're a bit five years ago ten years ago and every now and then there's some good ones you laugh but they can't keep going back to the same well guys Yvonne And so that's a bit you know they're the plot's very generic and all that but what saves his sperm. What I really liked is. This movie has some strong performances. This kid is funny as Shit. I WANNA I WANNA cram curry terence little garden high. He's funny as hell but the MVP of this of this is what tonight her name is. Betty Gilpin who we recently saw another bad film the garage. She also starred in the hunt but she towards the end is a saint steeler. Maybe not just for comedy charts but just a presence is really great and another actress again in the third. Act WE'RE GONNA get into. This name is Taj P. Henson Terachi. Sorry Pinson she plays the Wa the girlfriend she fucking crushes in the third actor really those two women they really in the Third Act Really. Just take over. And that's that's my biggest problem with the film actually in the Third Act the main character Coffee fairly I know but his coffee by IT HELPS. He actually saw second a back seat to the plot. And that's really the character that should be coming most forward now choice coming back because other characters are being really funny but they also stopped taking up on the screen time and I think wall individually is saying it's funny. It's great to watch but as a as a narrative whole ends up denting and not being in favour for the film but yeah overall if you want something to chuckle at when you got nothing better than do coughing Korean. It's a good laugh I'd give it like a I'm GonNa give six and a half out of ten just because mostly it's got some pretty strong like some pretty charismatic. I should say not struck charismatic performances by most of the main costs which I really surprised by definitely not as bad as a lot of other review is making out today in my opinion. But you know it's still not great. Yeah I I'm not. I'm not I think you just have a high tolerance for this stuff like I'm not saying that your tastes like any difference anyway. Anyone else's like like I know you kind of like the The case sort of like buddy cop. domes right. Yeah I'm partial to are big champion for comedy. I think I really like comedy stuff in particular are. I don't know I do have I. I am definitely more tolerant of Shitty films than you are but I can. I can find the I can find the the pros when I can find the. I can find the bright side of things. I think a bit easier than you can't sometimes so I'm not as critical sometimes but yeah I mean for me. It's just like if you're not if it's not engaging to me that I'm just going to say you know just I'm not gonna I've given you the time then clearly has been rewarded. Sir. I don't know but anyway. That's that's fam- outside with any film if you and it's the my biggest problem with a lot of films I would say probably the biggest sin is to not keep your plot moving forward if you pause your film to fucking explain some bullshit or if you're not moving forward that's like my number one soon. I think because riots films that do that like all of a sudden it's like why the fuck of my here say you're always funny actually saying 'cause I take your your move you're more of a plot person. I think a bit more of a character person I I'm fine with whatever you give me. Just made the characters interesting and fun to watch Or you know like I can't let's say escaped from escape done. Amora for example right not not the greatest plot. It's I mean I like. Let's just remove it from the fact that it is based on realize you know not the greatest plot right? It's an escape. It's a prison skype series but the characters of the interesting ones. And they're the ones that that make you come back to this show after seven episodes Whereas if it was the other way around if it was like kind of boring characters trying to get out of prison Sorry like barring characters. doing something like the plot is actually exciting or interesting than I. Just you know I. I wouldn't be able to engage with it I may like. I can't be like that but I think it varies from like what it is. I wanted the time like obviously the TV show. It's okay to slow it down every now and then you've got to get me to like the CACTUS or understand them out like for example like if a comedy film isn't being funny like you if you especially we poles your plot to guess the front yeah at the show like for example one of the biggest offenders from racing history that we are moving we both hated was the non right and one of the big problems was that whole middle section was like a nightmare or dream and it went for like multiple scenes. Like twenty minutes like okay. None of this was scary and none of advance the plot. What the fuck of I've been doing for twenty minutes. Oh what's a twenty minute long deleted scene that that's often a big a big problem for me or if I just don't like a character that's a that's that's why also nice to this film because I liked the performances of the actors. I found charismatic enough to maintain my attention. Yeah that's right. I think comedy is like the hottest obviously pull off. I mean like here's an example really race an example showing judge Robert to my my data. My brother and it did not go over. Well my house like yeah I mean I think you kind of need to be dialed into that kind of sense of hero like you know you kind of need me Okay well because firstly the going with the with the assumption that this is going to be a war movie right like a main back love all blah. So you know I was like no you need to get you need. Just just come in with a clean slate blah blah. It is obviously set in nineteen forties Jimmy. But that's not really what this is about as economy And like we're like Oh this over two thousand times all. I don't know I think I think there's certain Comedians and sudden rod is that that appeal to different people. I I obviously love judge. Rabbit and my friend Damian soldier rabbit the same weekend as my brother. My Dad did and they loved it. So it's it's it's weird like you know comedy place different age groups in different demographics. Yeah and you know what actually recently I went? Spend too long on this but we've got. We've got time here. I don't want to do this. I attempted I didn't watch all of it but I tried to the terrible home. Sherlock in harm's tried watching a Shirley bad as I say. Oh by the way once inside homes. That's one person that's a fair. Yeah I realize that it's like hey we're hanging out with Matt Villa having Ali but oh man it is incredibly terrible and was interesting and nothing's interesting this movie but I kept trying to like watch it like wise this movie so bad. I kept trying to figure it out and like I think a lot of it was all. The writers are trying to anything new or interesting though using jerks you've heard before a lot but also. I think like the actors were putting these accent right and by doing that icon losing. What makes them interesting actors? 'cause they're not great at doing these accents affect that modern part of it like Mantaro terribly written. Probably the worst comedy saw that so but anyway. So let's move on that's move onto the MDF game right. Ooh This like I said was a big one and if you want to get involved in the MDF game so the future please join. Alpha group the POTTY. That's ray words the after party so the question was what is your favorite movie scene of all time And again I left it very vague because you can kind of interpret Sane to be a lot of people get mixed up with sequences. Sequences are a bit Lunga. They kind of like you know Hof in the act or something like that. But that's not really what I'm going for. Like a sane is saying to us is clear. I like you know what I'm saying is it has a stop an end. It usually takes place in the one location but his like. Sometimes it might be confused. They went for example. If you have advantages endgame right. I don't consider the final fight to be a sane of consider that a sequence and I think it's route that saying they break it up into different. It's hard to drive that. Sakes they break it up into different sequences. Sorry Saints Fuck like for example. Captain Marvel fighting. Dennis in that particular sequence is a saint like. That's what I consider that it's interesting because you could also argue. That is a moment over. Say as like I know exactly what you mean and I'm not disagreeing with you because I've heard different things I've heard in screenwriting of her. A lot of people say are seen has to be in the same location and like that's not true because like for example comedies. Like some family guy you can do a cut away you tell me. That's three saints. If the one sane is a cut away to another sane then he can't come back to the same thing. You're not gonNA tell me three scenes. That's one same in my opinion as a wholly different ways to interpret as well. Yeah Yeah I think generally this should be a stott an and and it should be something linking them together. Usually the passage of time. I think if you start saying are like this movie because there's like ten different moments that a separate away from China that thought of saying that's a streets listing reasons. Why like a movie right? Well Matt you and I chose three different saints and we h h h going down three to one. So he'll be with your first. Start Your third favorite scene of all time. My third favorite's saying our wish I spent more time thinking about. This landed on no wake. He did all the time. I love it. Yeah a sort of landed on the COB. Can you call the car chase? I'M GONNA colder. Koch is at the end of the first toy story. Particularly that's not particularly leading up to the moment where buzz woody like basically flying and strategy is like and yet he's like we're flying and like what he's like no we're falling with style or whatever it's just showing how the cactus character journey and Haluk. They I love it when a movie. That's a coal back to align with the new meaning where usually it's becoming something sincere or endearing when it used to be some negative or whatever and just shows the cactus have really grown together all throughout the whole journey and doing it while it's being exciting adrenaline in there and like you're really rooting for those hearers. I feel like it's the perfect examples of like how to successively like do a climax. Oh absolutely dude. I that that saying makes me Smile. All the time did it never never fails. I love it Did you okay. So I'll got an axe with the right number three. Why third favorite of all time is the t-rex Guy from Drowsy Park? I think honestly I in terms of spectacle in terms of Steven Spielberg whipping out. His big special effects. Dick and being like look at what we can do now. It's just unrivaled. But not only that just the lack of music you know the way you get the the clause on the cable wire and then the cable wire getting ripped off the leg of the garden and then. Where's The you know? The lawyer bugging out to get to the toilet Just just just Allen Allen and and an an just watching on as the as a t-rex just absolutely decimates the kids It's just absolutely amazing Example of what we can do with special effects combination of special effects and practical effects. It's just absolutely just mind boggling dude. It's fantastic inspired a generation of filmmakers as well I think you could. You could say that sainted that one hundred percent one hundred percent pretty great. Absolutely give me a number two. I'm going to go with the fight between Neo and agent Smith the first Matrix. Nah This was my guess for you number. One actually surprise now. Yeah so so the Matrix has Sarah many great saints I could. I could name for saints and that could make my top five easily cover that as a stage presentation predict that episode. We'll glasses five hours long. Like five hours like come on man. It's probably going to be longer than that. The reason I wanNA talk about subway is it's not just the spectacle of Mosh Lot fi- it's great storytelling. As well you start off with the character. Where he's refusing to Ron from something Utah or mostly you assume certain death like you. I've spent the whole film building out trying to get into your brain. You can't fight them always run and then he finally stands up. So that's a big moment. You have a nice. Like a cowboy Western throwback the wet shot of them looking into each other. You get then you followed by an amazing bullet time sequence which is just coming off the tiles the bullet dodging same before Amazing Marshall outfight courtesy mixing in with like this Superhero Element vibe. Show right like with the with the bullet time. Yeah they have like two hundred seventy cameras or something maybe more in a circle and they all took photos of video. They just went through before they very little sage. I think the only thing that sage. I like the bullets and the all the background to grain screened assumption right. There's incredible but also like the way how the team is like watching the fi well really throws back like the anime influences. Like Dragon Ball saying stuff like that and then the singular best moment of for me is when NEO FALLS DOWN. You spits up blood. You think it's Urva. And then he gets up. He goes fighting. The dusk comes off him. Like are what are you doing? He's beginning to believe and all that stuff you're really like like Oh my God. This is a hero. This is such a heroic such a great Like pinnacle of the Hero's journey. And then also I just think the the how the Trento was hit soon gets out of the way and how after all that after an amazing same to end it off you think is finally based Smith is about to leave and Smith comes out with like a brand new border like nothing happened and had just really sinks in like. It's just another way to look up the stakes. That saying is constantly upping the stakes in both terms of spectacle and storytelling. It is one of the best climax fights you'll ever seen in action film and I could talk about for another three hundred. Espn you'll get your opportunity. We'll we'll get there before the podcast is done. We'll have to go. We ought in when we do it. We have got to talk for that same. Short by Sean. We honestly have to well. My number two is the interrogation saying from the dock night. That's saw one. I think of that. That's a good thing. That's a great thing I mean. Look the duck and that was one of my favorite movies. I was my Valentine man and this showcases the powerhouse that Heath Ledger is in this film. It's just I've got no words for it. I don't know if I'm actually prepared to talk about this. Maybe it's it's an amazing manipulation saying it's it's absolutely amazingly well written by the Nolan's and more more amazingly well acted by the actors you know you've got Hans Zimmer's school as as as everything ramps up the thing I love about. This is just how Palace Batman actually is against the Jirka because on its surface. I mean you know. It wasn't until I watched this movie. And this saying that I realized because the whole you know before this I was like Oh the joke is just some guy to clown makeup and oldest tech. And all this stuff like you know. He's he's clearly more superior physically but actually the Jerky can take anything that man throws at him. And the Jukka will always one up Batman when he uses his morals against him. And this is the saying that really highlight of that for me. This is when he's just when he when he can't hate when he baits the darker into submission. Come to find out that. The jerk doesn't have submission like He. He will never submit. They can beat him as much as he wants is just I? I can't I can't get into. This is one of my favorite sayings of all time. Nothing you can do to me line as well absolutely and you know. This is of course like the second time he hits him. He's got that laugh and it's just like but not only that just the way the same kicks off you know you got Gary Oldman's Character Commissioner Gordon because I'm going to go get a coffee and then boom there is the live on him Batmans. They're just like Bach You know it's it's you say it's like another good cop bad cop not exactly. What has this saying like Boorda's on like our writing territory. When he batches his head in the gloss. It's just it's fantastic. This is the most. This is the most brutal Yves Saint Batman as well like in a very long time. So yeah it's great man. Christopher Nolan hats off to you if I can just add as well to that same such fucking good sane. The great pick man. The reveal of Batman. That's like he's right behind him. That gets me every time I watch it. I I never. I don't know how they do it but it's still happened surprise me like my tenth twelfth. Fiftieth like watch. It still gets me every time. And that's saying a lot because I would say a same that's close to being. Maybe as good as that is the the the scene with the Jerker when he does the the magic pencil trick like the way the way he walks in and intimidated the gang. How who he. I would say that's up there too because I know we had sort of technically met the jerk before that but like I was one of the best reveals of a character like I think any no absolutely absolutely that is such a great pick man. There's a reason we haven't touched that movie yet. I'm S. H. Station man like you know. We're just not confident enough to get anywhere near that movie. If he couldn't hear they hear that in my voice as flailed around trying to explain that saying than you one hundred percent I went on went on too confident in covering man. Let me guess your number one right you you give you gotta give me one hint. It's another animated film. Is it a pixel? And it's by far. My favorite saint of all time is a toy story. Stray note towards trump for them. It is the montage from up. Nice good bull makes me cry every time I say it still. I cry watching it. Aab spokesman a personal level just shows me like makes me think a bit about my grand my grandparents while just to be honest with you and it's to stem like the way say couple made each other they fall in love the old together and she poces Orion. He's still like Dan and with all the the way the music just entwined another. It is some of the. Us beautiful piece of up evison. I often say up is my favorite movie of all time next to the Matrix but what I'm saying that I'm kind of lying because I just mean that saying I love the movie up dirt love anywhere as much as I love everything else that movie. I don't know of anywhere near as much as I love. That fucking montage. It is Amazing Tomas. The pace that yeah absolutely. That's the that's the early saying I remember from that movie like that might be one of my least watch pixar movies but I absolutely remember that same visual. That's how good it is. Man Man absolutely take number one day love it. What's your number one? You gotTA guess is it from Sakaria it is from Sakaria. Yeah Dude I think I've I've seen parts of it but I haven't seen the whole movie. There is a scene in Cairo that all guests. I think I know it might be the one thing I do. Remember is the same where I'm GONNA fuck this up but I think there's like some like a traffic jam 'cause bumper on then. Why let me try to remember? And like I'm not gonNA listen to you this McAfee. So this crossing sane to set things up for your The FBI together with a couple of members of this well actually together with federalize. They guide to go to Mexico south of the border to pick up the prisoner and bring him back to the United States. They go into Mexico and pick them up and the whole time the whole time that you know the heads on the swivel. That's gone up very alert. Because they they feel that they might get ambushed while they're here in Mexico And Josh Brolin character telling Kate Played by Emily Blunt He's just like you know Dunmurry if they try anything it'll be at the Boorda so they get to. The border. Crossings are from Mexico to the United States to get into a traffic jam. And it's just it's totally quiet The tension hibbard. I can't even begin to explain to you the tension. I'm my palms and sweating. Just telling the story but the way the way Villaneuva shoots this all the time. He takes You know the the look and everyone's is the way they actually handled. A weaponry is one hundred percent. Accurate that actually show this thing to military personnel In like in training this is this is one of the most realistic unlike firefights in the history like the way they move the way they the way they sat down along the highway. Here it's It's just it's just breathtaking and it's it's just the same that will honestly stick with me when I'm fucking dead in the grounded it is it is a mazda clause in filmmaking and tension building out knows anything like it but yeah that's my that's my favorite of all time to the border crossing saying sometimes. I'll just honestly just hit it up on Youtube like I'm just like yeah. I'm first of all great pick. I do remember that same. I think I've just seen at Saint Norbert I'm saying the movie right now in the same and I know exactly what you mean attention. I just want to give us patent the back and just say how surprised they add that. Neither of US picked anything from Marvel All Star Wars. Yeah but obviously the one that come slow deals. Mind is leukemia. Fava that isn't credible sane but marvel cermony great moments. I just had endgame but like I would think of things like like fucking linemen and Shit. Like let's let's franchise that knows how to reward viewers. Yeah absolutely while you're at it. Let's go through the the poll the Paul options. Because I did put up a Paul and put an opponent if you're kind of like popular signs that maybe people have chosen. So here's the ones that didn't get a vote and didn't like when not in the running actually so the ball descend from writers of the law. Which is the opening sane Pretty iconic miser yeah Here's Johnny Rod from the shining iconic as Rutta valkyries probably the most iconic sane from clubs. Now the bill clay sane from Hud absolutely incredible. Sane Ezekiel twenty five seventeen from politics. I'm Lineman from Verizon game of course on your left for game. Of course I am I man for mine man. Then go the rain side escape from the Shawshank redemption You shall not pass for fellowship of the ring the bulletin on the rooftop which is different. Yo pigment on the on the Matrix often the matrix which would be a more popular pick. Yeah Yeah you got the Horse Head scene from the Godfather Pretty Clinic. The opening scene for Inglorious Boston's man. This was my like number four pick. I was sent on my list. The chest burster sane from alien also up their way up there the USS Indianapolis same from jaws also wept as a major the way he tells the story is just absolutely heartbreaking and just some memorable the iconic Schaus dubbing saying from soccer super clinic and then we get to the scenes that actually got a very and wearing the running tied for third place. We have a few movies. Overtop stopping the train in spite of that was added by Carlos. Thank you for. Thank you providing cost dude that is chronic as fuck. It is probably the best thing in the trilogy right. Yeah yet action. I what am I saying? Yeah Yeah of course. Absolutely Patrick Harrington of course added a Red Dawn Sane Jet Matt's ten. Sorry Patrick I still have not seen red door I know. Kill me right. The helicopter rescue from Superman. The movie added Jose Rivera. Thanks Jose providing right. That's pretty old classics thing. That's a classic. Saying Hell is coming to breakfast from outlaw. Josey Wales this is added by Daniel Foul Sorry Daniel. I don't think anyone's head of this movie. Have you had movie? I'm sorry Daniel Dart thinks I love you Daniel. The damn we gotta tears in the rain sequence from blade runner right for the house Famous speech that go one. Vote the Coca Cabana from Goodfellas PRE ICONIC THE COIN. Toss in the gas station from the country for all men. And the I am you'll father's sequenced from sane from the embassy strikes back iconic is right and that's that just the place that lies fucking tied for second place. Barham is death from fellowship of the ring. I you know what I fucking a gray man. That sane is absolutely heartbreaking and just epic in all in all the right ways man it. Sorry what signs that so. It's the sane dear member when they're in the forest contract towards the end of the film Erkaya chasing them and he got Sean Baynes character Who At this point at this point? He's Kinda gone a bit mad. He's trying to go after the ring. Do you remember this. He gets hit with the errors. Aw Aw wow. It's been so long since I've seen it. I remember that now. Yeah actually that is a good sign. Yeah good and here's one that I that absolutely cracks my top ten the Normandy landing sequence and Saving Private Ryan. This is like this is much. Hey you ge- of course like Costner brain. Of course it's number two number I night Steven Spielberg at his greatest. It's just absolutely epic and I think you know the what what escaped ran away with the votes by far number. One is the T rex's guy from park right. Goddamn now go wrong. I thought pulp fiction. We get more love Aussie idol puffy. She'll be up there too. I was actually surprised at end games I am. I didn't get any didn't get any votes as well but anymore saints that. Come to mind that you you attempt to throw in there tempted to mention. Yeah I mean look. There's a fear right back to where we're going with nate roads like that's A. That's a massive one terminator right. Take Your Pick. Probably the truck chase for me in the canals. Yeah I was GONNA say like there's a few from terminated Yeah Yeah probably for me. Probably the truck chase a like for me like a few more come to mind This cheesiest faulk one free willy when he jumps over the. Let's to me thousand those big mile when be Rava throws the Mike at Papa Doc and just says like tellers people not about me and then the guy. Just sharks like epic. Yeah that's And then the the first phone call in Scream. One poll like that was almost number three. Just it's Connick and what's even crazier is like. She dies in the opening sane and they went so hard to convince people in the trailers promotion. Everything people thought she was going to be the main character and she dies like fifteen minutes into the movie absolutely such an amazing iconic sane to buck. Yeah I I'm sure there's more I can think. Oh I can I can going. Like deathly Hallows Podcasters Higher Kills Baltimore. I mean come on Gladiator detained like. It's yeah we could. We could go on forever man but I mean like this. This was intentionally a tough on that. I like that I chose I was like. Hey you know what I'm Gonna I'm GonNa make people like wriggling this a little bit and make a definitive decision. 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