19 Burst results for "Joseph Ryan"

"joseph ryan" Discussed on KCRW

KCRW

01:41 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on KCRW

"The way occasionally suffer from a fear of flying. Doing the past 10 years, Getting on an airplane has become an act of remembrance. Each necessary surrender to every new, sometimes frustrating security measure. Is an acknowledgement that I too I'm attempting to glide on wind currents on borrowed wings. While so hoping praying to land safely. On the ground. You had waged onto CA. Her essay flight was published in The New Yorker on the 10th anniversary of 9 11. Christie, a domino parent, Edward Adderly. Junior Ernest Alcock owes Joseph Ryan Allen. Richard Dennis Allen, Richard L. Alan, Peter Paul Apollo Fassino Hostile, Jr. Frank Thomas, Aquilino Patrick Michael Around. Use David Gregory, Acre Michael George Marchionne's Limits. Our Barbara Jean are Now It's impossible to calculate all the many consequences of September 11th to our lives. Yes. To foreign and domestic policy into the shape of the country. But certainly the most immediate.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on NEWS 88.7

NEWS 88.7

01:42 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on NEWS 88.7

"Do I occasionally suffer from a fear of flying? Doing the past 10 years, Getting on an airplane has become an act of remembrance. Each necessary surrender to every news, sometimes frustrating security measure. Is an acknowledgement that I too I'm attempting to glide on wind currents on borrowed wings. While also hoping praying to land safely. On the ground. And waged Antica. Her essay flight was published in The New Yorker on the 10th anniversary of 9 11. Christie. A abdominal Charente, Edward Adderly junior Ernest Alcock owes. Joseph Ryan Allen, Richard Dennis Allen, Richard L. Alan, Peter Paul Apollo Kino Hostel, Junior. Frank Thomas. Ugly, You know Patrick, Michael around. Use David Gregory, Acre Michael George Marchionne's Loomis, Ari, Barbra Jean Hart. Now it's impossible to calculate all the many consequences of September 11th to our lives. To foreign and domestic policy into the shape of the country. But certainly the most immediate policy.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on Legion of Skanks Podcast

Legion of Skanks Podcast

01:36 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on Legion of Skanks Podcast

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

05:30 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"So all right. Let's move onto the next piece. Joseph ryan's hands of alex cox so a fifty five page report on the assault of joseph ryan by alex cox was released by the austin. Pd fifty five page yup cheese. We all knew that lori. Bellows brother cox assaulted and stunned. Won't taste joseph ryan right husband during kind of like a custody exchange with tyler ryan so we now have the full report and exactly what happens. We're going to briefly go over that. An officer was dispatched to the kids exchange at colin field. Payton john with a report that a man was being teased. That sounds fun. Yeah when the officer had arrived justify was there shaking and scared and he said that he had just had his first supervised visit with his daughter and over a year and have been taste and joseph was leaving the facility and putting stuff into his trunk. When alex who've been sitting nearby at a picnic table approached him terrifying. Alex was obviously a very sketchy. Dude he said. We need to talk after ryan took a moment and figured out who it was he recognize him and he said we have nothing to talk about. Ryan immediately asked nearby woman who was sitting in her car to witness the interaction. Alex cox than said you know what you did and pulled a taser from his pocket stating this is for my nephew. And then taes jusif ryan in the back necessary for my nephew. Yup who would be koby so ryan took off running across the parking lot but was able to knock him back down in takes him a second time okay. The first time wasn't gonna know he was basically trying to kill him as the so. Joseph ryan took off a third time. This time passing man leaving the building and told them to call nine one one. So once alex cox saw the second witness he sees chasing him altogether and just calmly stopped and walked away now from the report quote ryan advised that he is afraid of what they may do to his house or to him again. He said the entire family has been causing him problems and that his ex wife has stated that she would rather have death than for him to have another visit with his daughter. Ryan is afraid that could mean anything killing herself and her daughter or him. These are legitimate. Concerns you ha-. I would say so if you recall. Alex cox ended up doing some jail time for that he ended up paying restitution basically to ryan and then was and fox able to have a gun a gun so he was in his..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

01:31 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"Crime cases and may contain explicit language listener. Discretion is advised. Hello everyone you're listening to. We saw the devil. This is robin. Today's episode is a return to laurie. Valo a couple of weeks ago. Any cushing in one of her youtube livestreams released a twenty some odd minute audio clip of laurie. Valo speaking at a gathering. All we know is that melanie. Gabe was there zulema. Was there a few others. And laurie says some very very interesting things with perhaps the most interesting being that she wanted to murder joseph ryan that she had planned to murder joseph ryan so it got us thinking in the clip. She goes on to cite a lot of scriptures from the book of mormon and so it got us thinking. Is laurie value evil. Is she crazy or she religious zealot and we really wanted to break down what she was saying. This audio we have a special guest. That's going to actually help us do that. We're going to go through the audio. Take out the key pieces and what they mean joining us. We'll be a friend of the show brittany who is a lifelong member of the church and very knowledgeable to be honest before we get into that. Though let's get some housekeeping out of the way you can find us at we. Solid devil dot com. You can email us at info at. We sought the devil. You can find us on facebook and twitter at. We saw the devil and you.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

Talk 1260 KTRC

02:46 min | 1 year ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on Talk 1260 KTRC

"Changed votes since argued they have great confidence in election security and integrity and so should voters. The statement comes as President Trump pushes claims of fraud during last week's contest. President elect Joe Biden is taking more calls from world leaders, including Pope Francis Tom Roberts explains a statement from the Biden camp says the two men talked about immigration and refugees, climate change and a shared belief in the dignity and equality of all humankind. Biden thank the pope for his leadership in promoting peace, reconciliation and the common bonds of humanity around the world. Biden will be the first Catholic in the Oval Office since President John F. Kennedy, California Health officials are today confirming one million Corona virus cases, making it the second state to reach the grim milestone. Texas was the first reaching the one million mark on Wednesday. Officials say numbers have been trending steadily up over the past few weeks, with reported increases in covert 19 cases and related deaths across several counties. South Carolina Republican Senator Lindsey Graham says Democrats would look to change America. If they win the Senate runoff elections in Georgia Electoral College would be changed so that New York and California pick the president, South Carolina and Georgia won't matter anymore because it'd be a popular vote election on Fox News. Graham claimed that this is why the runoff elections are extremely important. The Ivy League is canceling all of its winter sports for the 2020 2021 season due to the ongoing Corona virus pandemic. The league also announced fall sports will not take place during the spring semester and spring sports are postponed through at least the end of February. You're listening to the latest from NBC News radio. A number of New Yorkers are not happy with Governor Andrew Cuomo's new coronavirus restrictions, and some are asking questions. James Flipping has more common question is one about hospital capacity and is the state in danger of overwhelming it. With many of New York's new rules based off rising numbers of positive tests. Either way, come Friday night at 10 O'clock. All bars around New York must be closed. I don't see why places wouldn't be able to stay open a little bit later. People need to pay their bills. People getting tired of hearing about it, and they're getting tired of wearing these damn mask. Private indoor gatherings from that point forward must be no more than 10 people. PHOENIX police are taking a fresh look at the death of Lori Valens, third husband after hearing a tape where she said she was going to murder him. Hello faces charges in Idaho over the disappearance and death of her two Children. Joseph Ryan died in 2018, and it was ruled a heart attack at the time. A Phoenix police official confirmed They're reviewing the case. After Ryan sister provided a recording where Val Oh said she was going to murder him want a Christmas tree that stands out?.

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The Case Of Chad And Lori Daybell

True Crime Brewery

06:25 min | 2 years ago

The Case Of Chad And Lori Daybell

"Dick I feel like we've kind of been just living this case the last several days there's so much that we had to delve into. So let's just start with an overview of the timeline going back to the beginning because it's very complicated and as much for me as for the listeners a little review and a little in-depth investigation into these things would be helpful both helpful the me. We did last week's first part of this and I'm just at the time you do it do the recording. It sounds reasonable. Then as I think back about it, I'm trying to say what happened when who did what? So. This'll be very helpful. It's a crazy thing and of course, with the tragic ending, which is horrible. So. Let's go back to Chad Day Bell. He married his first wife Tammy in nineteen ninety and they had five children together over the years in Nineteen ninety-two Laurie got married for the first time at age eighteen and this marriage only lasted a very short time under a year from what I've heard. Then she remarried in nineteen ninety five and that's when she gave birth to her son Colby in nineteen, ninety six. Again, she got divorced then in two, thousand one, she married Joseph Ruin and Laurie and Joe had their daughter Kylie together in two thousand and two, and just a little bit of a word about Tyler's childhood. We we know that she was used as a pawn by Laurie and her divorce custody filings against Joe Ryan. But there's also some evidence fairly convincing evidence that Laurie mains have had Munchausen by proxy pilot who's in and out of the hospital many times, and she even had exploratory surgery to quote figure out what was wrong unquote and that's something that just. Really isn done nowadays, right? No, it isn't that if we go back a few years that was something I mean if if you have parent who keeps bringing a child into the office bureau for various complaints and you have run tests and nothing ever shows up, you might have considered doing an exploratory bit of surgery as probably a what's called a lap me. Where they look inside the the belly at the F. Domino contents and maybe take biopsies just to see if there was something that they had missed Leah from my experience on a pediatric surgical floor though they only do that when they're like at the end of their rope, this is after days of observing taking the kid off of a regular diet doing. IV fluids run, they do a lot of things I and the munch just love to hang out in the room for days and get the attention. So this is very classic Munchausen by proxy behavior who certainly is yet it really is and no illness was ever determined, which is significant I think road even with the surgery. Yes. So so there you go. Exactly. Nine, two, thousand when Tyler was about six, her therapist raised concerns about the stress Tyler was going through with her health issues and the custody issues. Tally, did say to the therapist that she did enjoy visits with her father. There were documented concerns about Laurie being dishonest on Tyler's intake forms. One of these things whereas where Lori said, the tally had pancreatitis. The custody documents I was able to peruse showed that Kylie did say she enjoyed visits with her father but then she told the therapist that she was frightened to stay overnight because her father molested her now she used the word molested and when her mom came into the room with her and the therapist apparently tie looked at Lori and said I, told her. So it just really I'm not convinced that Joe sexually abused tightly and I'll always believe someone until I have reason not to especially a child but there were some classic signs of the Mother Coaching her. So in two thousand, four, Laurean Joe were divorced and Laurie remarried Charles Valo in two, thousand six. Now for those of you who are counting Charles's husband number four. Yes, and in two thousand, twelve, a little boy named Joshua. Jackson was born he's he's the biological child of Charles Valez nephew his grandparents cared for jj until they made the decision along with Lori and. Charles that Lori Charles would adopt and raise JJ, and this was back in two thousand fourteen. Laurie already had colby and entirely. So the grandparents K. and Larry Woodcock were really thinking that they might have a better home there because there'd be other kids. It's kind of their little bit younger than Larry and K. so laurie who they thought was just a wonderful mom. At, the time agreed to adopt the little boy with Charles and then Laurie Charles entirely moved to Hawaii along with JJ services in two thousand fourteen when the adoption went through the options gone through and we've Kurt the family now lorries. Oldest son is what out of the house at this point because he's like eighteen nineteen, he didn't move to Hawaii with them now. He didn't in two thousand fifteen back to Chad, Tammy and the family moved to Idaho from Utah Right, in two years later, the veil of family moved back to Arizona, from Hawaii then on April third two, thousand, eighteen lorries, ex husband, her third husband Joseph Ryan was found dead in his home Laurie was notified as she was still listed as his next of kin. Didn't notify Joe's sister Anne who by all accounts she was very close to Anne was still a part of tiles life, your birth Maurice to ruin agenda Yes. I know we've talked about this a little bit in part one, but you did get a chance to review the autopsy. They were a few things that stuck out to us like the fact that the height was off and they call them a heavyset guy which he really wasn't. No. But remember he was in his apartment for at least a week decomposing before anyone found was a neighbor who found him that's correct. Yes and we don't have the entire autopsy but the cause of death was per tiriac sclerotic heart disease, which means that you're coronary arteries getting clogged up, which isn't really crazy for a fifty nine year old man to die of in general but

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Doomsday Parents, Chad And Lori Daybell

True Crime Brewery

06:09 min | 2 years ago

Doomsday Parents, Chad And Lori Daybell

"Laurie Velo Bouza forty, six year old mother of three married a fifty one year old father of five Chad Day bill. On November fifth two thousand nineteen in Kauai Hawaii. Chad's wife for close to thirty years. Tammy. Day. Bill have been found dead in her home just two weeks earlier. So obviously, they didn't waste much time remarrying. Stunningly Quick Tammy was in apparently healthy forty, nine year old woman infectious training for a marathon. Just, ten days before her death, which was October ninth two, thousand, Nineteen Tammy reported on facebook and the police that masked man had shouted her with what she thought could be a paint gun what's going on there right? Exactly. The other very interesting aspect is Laurie and Chad had picked out and ordered their wedding bands more than two weeks before Tammy Steph. That's right. Shoe on that one for a while right so October fourth to fifth tammy visited her parents Beck in Springville. Utah, where she's from and then a few days later on October nine, a man ski mask was shooting at her so I guess the police decided it was just some kind of prank because she thought it was a paint gun and they never found the guy, but it's very curious. WHOA, it is and it's really just the tip of the iceberg in this really strange case with all the suspicious occurrences just everything surrounding lawyer and Chad, his mess and very suspicious of course. Yes that's an understatement. So Chad Chad Day Bell is lawry's fifth husband. Laurie was born Laurie Noreen Cox June twenty sixth of Nineteen seventy-three in San Bernardino California and she grew up with two brothers Alex and Adam and two sisters Stacey and summer Alex Cox plays a really large role in this whole story so you need to remember him Adam lives in Kansas and he's worked as a radio personality, but he's pretty much out of the whole seen as far as we know so far. Stacy Cox died in her parents home when she was just twenty two years old and this was from complications of type one diabetes lorries remaining living sister Cox shift. Let was one of lorries, biggest defenders until June of this year, and that's when the remains of her children jj entirely were discovered on the property of Chad debacle. Now, people who knew Lori will have said that she really became a person after she became involved with shed she had been considered an excellent mother. And a good friend to many many years ago back in high school Lori was a happy energetic cheerleader at nineteen years of age. She married her high school sweetheart Nelson Jawans. This marriage is over within a year. Then when she was twenty two in Nineteen ninety-five Laurie Mary twenty-three-year-old. William but Sheila, and this marriage was in Travis County Texas. They had a son named Colby in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety six, and they ended up divorcing in nineteen. Ninety eight. So, by the time, she was twenty five years old she'd been married and divorced twice already. See and she has one child, and then in two thousand. One Lori Mary Joseph Ryan Joe Converted to Mormonism, and that was the religion it Laurie had been raised in. He didn't legally adopt coby coby took his last name. and. He and Laurie had a daughter together. That's highly in two, thousand, two and two, thousand, four in August Joe filed for divorce from Laurie. And it was finalized in two thousand five. In two, thousand, six, Joe Ryan filed a complaint with the court stating Lori was not complying with the visitation order. He asked she'd be held in contempt then August two, thousand, seven Joe is attacked by Laura's brother Alex. For. This guy chases show around with stun gun. He tased him twice and he threatened to kill him. Yes. So I'm going to ask probably a stupid question is this because of the divorce or because he took her back to court. I'm thinking it was related to the custody issue because the divorce was already finalized been finalized for over a year. But you know she was also looking at some trouble because she was in contempt of court. She wasn't bringing tighly for her visits and she was keeping tidily away from him. So, Alex Laura's brother was very protective of her and actually seemed obsessed at the time with killing Joe. Ryan the incident happened when Joe was leaving a supervised visit with his daughter Kylie and the attack ended when an eyewitness showed up. So Alex, pled guilty to aggravated assault resulting in serious bodily injury and ended up serving ninety days in jail, and this was in Austin Texas. But the custody battle between Joe and Laurie over tighly really got very dark at one point Laurie head to install cameras in the children's rooms and in the living room for the court to see what was going on in her house. But no abuse apparently was found from that camera footage but just so you know this was a really nasty custody situation. You're S, and then we have Joe Dying in April of two thousand, eighteen still young man. This was determined to be a heart attack they did not topsy, but then he his remains were cremated. This whole time has custody battle with over Retali- had continued to be ongoing, right? I. Believe he was fifty nine but he was pretty healthy and there were some strange things about his autopsy as well. Roy Yeah now the court documents say that Joe Ryan accused Laurie of parental alienation alleging that he had not seen his daughter for more than a year at one point. And he also referred to a court appointed psychologist who had interviewed Lori. And according to court paperwork the psychologist David, our pool

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

04:06 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"Go through a trial there have been multiple instances of this and again this the ACLU and people are very, very, very displeased about this type of set up an Idaho whereas hospitals are focused on healing right hospitals are focused on trying to get you better jails are. So you know, it would make sense of a person is severely mentally ill and they're constantly in crisis that that would be a good option for a hospital. You know rather than sticking in jail yeah. Make sense why for person who's severely mentally ill would we keep putting them through these cycles? I don't think it. Likely doesn't. You know in the case of Laurie, I find all this to be completely a non issue. I don't think that the judge is going to deem her incompetent interesting on the less I mean it's still an option. It is again I only one of four states to not have the ability for a defendant to. Plead not guilty by reason of insanity. Kind of weird. I mean like when you when you see the facts online, it's like why? Yeah, it's very odd. So we will see how it turns out but just little tidbit there that because in one of the documents and we'll go through this here momentarily it seems like they may be trying to go incompetent route. We'll see and then also a couple days ago on August seventeenth that was Charles, velos birthday. Yes it was. He would have been sixty four years old as everyone knows now Charles Valley was a very complicated an individual and what happened to him you know it's heartbreaking still even. Looking back in doing research for current episodes and we have promised going back through the timeline of the events and doing kind of a a primer intro episode. We've actually gone a lot of emails from people being like look I wanna get my mom or my spouse or a friend into this case, and it's so crazy. Can you do one concise episode giving the ADA Z of everything that happened to get people into it?.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

05:38 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"Between, and it is all going to be broadcast. Now everyone is probably thinking is going to take. So long until the trial I don't WanNa wait that long I don't either I kinda sucks but I mean you know justice turn slowly Yup you know what I think. I think that we're going to have to maybe go to Rexburg for it. We are planning on Wayne expert come on back seen yet. Can we go ahead and get a vaccine for this Rona Crop? I mean how would it be to be a meet the people in Idaho? Well you've already been expert I have by didn't get really any of you. So that'd be really neat and see it in person we could actually record right after seeing it live be so crazy it would be fun. So what what do you think is going to happen next, Robin. Well, let's start with the news of the we can go from go from here. So charge trial we have the preach all conference again on December tenth. Also this week Laurie follows arraignment in District Court has. been vacated and rescheduled for September tenth at ten am. So she'll appear in front of Judge Dane Watkins. To face those two counts of conspiracy to conceal, destroy or alter evidence I know everyone was really upset that her arraignment was vacated but now we have to wait until September tenth now I WANNA come. So Laurie follow you made a valid point earlier to why she's probably not going to build a do then sanity play because I, asked the question they think a of you have question. Idaho's one of only four states without a criminal insanity defense and to save you a very long story. Basically, the lost time that this was revisited was back in two thousand twelve and the US Supreme Court actually denied a chance to review Idaho status of not having an insanity defense. There was a case involving a man by the name of James Gelling and he was a paranoid schizophrenic in two thousand and seven basically became convinced people he knew were trying kill him and destroy his harvest his brain, and he murdered two people in Idaho and then apparently went down to Arizona and tried to kill a third person and he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was wrong but he fully believed that he acted in self defense all but three other states have allowed him to plead not guilty by. Reason of insanity but he didn't have that option available to him. So the court actually sentenced him to life in prison for two counts of second degree murder. Now on an appeal, his attorney actually this foisted up to the US Supreme Court now the US Supreme Court declined to hear the case day basically said that Nope Idaho's court that decision stands and they declined to take Ed only three us. Supreme. Court justices disagreed with the decision not to hear the case you can think Steven Briar, the notorious RPG and then Sonia Sotomayor disagree with..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

True Crime Recaps

02:57 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

"Joe Charles was cremated and forgotton his ex wife she says Laurie scheduled no funeral services nothing instead she sent his ashes to assist her K. And her husband Larry Does, Jj's grandparents. They begged her to let jj go to the memorial they'd planned but she refused Charles was sixty two when he was killed but there was one thing Lori hadn't counted on. Charles had had a front row seat to her battle with Joe and he'd seen firsthand what can happen when Laurie in her brother Alex turn on you. Valentine, he was boyer's with concerns about his wife Rebelo. Brother. Alex Cops Beers on attorney told me on phone Charles feared for his safety. So he told Charles get an order protection against Laurie, which says, Charleston and you turn also tool Charleston remove the beneficiary on his one million dollar life insurance policy. said. I. Sister to be Sherry because. Mine Die Long hurting the mindless you can take care jj because I know she'll be take care of him as the financial stress adding a child with special need such as. So I can't help but wonder how much did Charles know or suspect about his wife's involvement in Joe Steph thanks to tracking from Alex's cell phone almost two months to the day. After Charles Death we know his son JJ and step daughter Kylie were murdered and buried in Chad tables backyard sometime in September twenty nineteen on October nineteenth. Chad's first wife Tammy healthy forty, nine year old suddenly died in her sleep of natural causes leaving behind four hundred, thirty, thousand dollars in life insurance. Her death is also under an investigation with an autopsy pending. On November Fifth Twenty Nineteen Chattan Lorie were married in Hawaii today they're both in jail awaiting trial for conspiracy to destroy, alter conceal evidence of her children's bodies. At the moment Lori is also facing multiple misdemeanors, Madison County for withholding information about the kids whereabouts. Plus She's got the two felony charges in Fremont. County. Idaho they're both pleading not guilty Lawrie requested a jury trial for misdemeanor charges and that is now scheduled for January twenty fifth through January twenty ninth twenty, twenty one. and. Why she thinks there are twelve people anywhere on earth who might find her innocent his shocking. But Hey, she's gotten away with it this far. So maybe she's right. Let's keep this conversation going. There are a lot of dangerous people out there and you've got things to do if you want to keep up with this story and others, please subscribe and hit the bell to get all the crime half the time I'll see you soon..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

True Crime Recaps

04:30 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

"And we've learned some disturbing allegations are I have to say allegations because you know things get really nasty in custody dispute any divorce dispute and entrance death like be told from both sides so we don't have any confirmation of this, but there are accusations that involved in appropriate. Either sexual acts or Conversations that have to do between Charles Valid Psalms and Laurie son and little in tiny's like four years old at this time what we learned in the paperwork is a judge ordered. Charles and boys. So they're married at this point they're still battling custody with their their exes. Or them to put surveillance cameras inside their home. Inside the boys room where they sleep when they visited dad and inside Kobe Ryan's room and inside the family room and that was actually ordered. So they could see what was happening in the home according to Charles ex wife Cheryl nothing suspicious or criminal was ever found on the video footage but Cheryl Remembers Laurie seemed to enjoy being court in all the drama surrounding it. Apparently, because the to custody battles, hers with Joe Charles with his ex were so intertwined the judge combined their cases in the courtroom. which seems bizarre but Lori loved it Nassar Reminder. Right now, it's looking like she and Chad Dave L. will also be sharing courtroom in the future Cheryl is quoted as saying that's when I. Learned. She doesn't do what she's told to do if she doesn't want to I saw that a lot in court and we've seen a lot too right. But then after spending thousands of dollars in time in legal fees for custody of his sons who lived in Texas Charles Laurie moved to Arizona and because her custody agreement with Joe stipulated that he lived within a hundred miles of her, he had to follow her to Arizona where we can see from his linked him page he took a job in Scottsdale Laurie became familiar with Chad debacle in Twenty fifteen and any remembers her fascination with Chad series of books about Doomsday..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

True Crime Recaps

04:03 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

"He asked the court to find her holder in contempt in jail her for eighteen months for failing to comply with the original custody order is also covered these court documents of tireless custody in which a Texas court ordered. Laurie tavist psychological Evaluation Act Lori said, the death would be an option before letting tightly visit her dad. That same year married Charles Fallow in Vegas and just like Joe Before Him Charles. Also converted to Mormonism for her even though he was raised Catholic he had two sons from a previous marriage and he was also involved in a custody dispute of his own and just like before when Laurie Mary Charles, she told, Tally Joe was her old Daddy Charles was her new daddy and both kids were told to call him dad meanwhile Laurie's own custody battle was getting uglier. She insisted Joe is dangerous and physically sexually abusing both. Koby entirely. Youtube Channel W. Tanf WICCA. Truce. And F. Bombs dug up court documents from their epic custody battle and they are apparently some shocking reading crime online. gave us a sneak peek. Say in little four year old Kylie told her therapist. She liked visiting her dad but didn't WanNa stay overnight and then when pushed about that, according to the therapist report tightly looked at Lori and. Said I told her other similar statements and behavior is indicated to earth therapists that Lori was attempting to manipulate tightly into repeating some of the messages she was feeding her, and as a result, the little girl was shutting down now not saying those messages were correct or incorrect as far as the physical or sexual abuse, but we've seen in the past how manipulative Laurie can be. We've also seen how far Laurie's brother Alex Cox would go to his sister's bidding up to and including helping murder her own children in two thousand nineteen. In August two, thousand, seven, his mission was to punish Joe even chasing him through a barnes and noble parking lot with a stun gun after Joe dropped Kylie off after a visitation retracing meant Alex Kansin two, thousand, six at a comedy club in Phoenix. Extremely. Instilling very remembers alleys telling her to go to Austin Texas to handle family matters in August two, thousand seven. But the next year she learned Alex pleaded guilty to assaulting Joseph Riot, the ex husband of Laurie Val court documents say Alexy's Ryan twice in threatened to kill him. Alex was sentenced to ninety days in jail he was. Asked. Desire Tail. Mary Alison, her letters and usually found a way to mention his ex brother-in-law this extra read. Do Me a favor call Janice Alex's mother asked her to Joe's address on a postcard in his license plate number I. Think it will be popular here in another letter Mary says out wrote PS can you get a pitcher for Laurie of one of her ex ex-husband's said it's some guys would like to hang out with it. I mentioned both Laurie Charles were dealing with custody battles will lon crime discuss the overlapping allegations made in the court documents obtained by wicked truth you've been going through these documents related to lorries divorce from Joseph. And we're learning so frightening things amid turnover to you. What can you share with us? Okay. So last week we went over a lot and what was in the documents from Laurie in Joseph, which is tireless father's divorce. But now over the weekend, the same website wicked truce obtained divorce documents, Charles Gallo, and his ex, and the.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

True Crime Recaps

05:24 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

"Lorie told family members she got his life insurance policy and social security survivor benefits that was planning on sharing them with tightly. The based on information we've seen reported by other media outlets. It might be more accurate to say tighly was the official recipient of that money but Lori as the. Manipulative adult was managing it for her his sister Anne tweeted about the cruel irony of the situation saying, I. had just reached out to Joe for the first time since two thousand three to let him know our mother who had been homeless was confirmed deceased. He was most likely dead and waiting to be found I think I intersected with Laurie in the early stage of her radicalization she could still be sweet and fun. But there was a dark means side. I had never witnessed before she got to see that side of her up close and personal when Laurie Ashur to visit them in Arizona and spend some time with tightly so so Betrayed tiling and. And he says Louis discouraged highly from speaking about her dad shoot would actually say the world is a better. Job Ryan. Any sense fees tax to her daughter during visit. Best Life I. Can't wait to hear this place is our. Off Earth Low and I think. Assure. She was so freaked out by the way Lori was acting that she cut ties with after that visit and didn't see her tally again in early March the FBI contacted Phoenix pd about Joseph's death. But since there doesn't seem to be any recent developments in that investigation, maybe we could do a little what if although I so What if after twelve long years of feuding about custody over Tighly Laurie, got in contact which L. and asked to meet him at his apartment. She could have easily said something like she wanted to talk things out, settle their issues. So let's say and again I'm just speculating here but what is Laurie and Joe were alone in his apartment and she took the opportunity to end this Brutal custody battle once and for all and get his life insurance..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

True Crime Recaps

02:53 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on True Crime Recaps

"Officially Joseph Ryan died of a heart attack in twenty eighteen fourteen years after his marriage to Laurie valo ended he was fifty nine but whether this is your gateway video to the Laura Avello Chad Debacle Saga or you've been following this case closely remember to take the phrase natural death with a grain of salt especially when it happens to someone unlucky enough to have been close to them. Joseph Ryan Charles Fallow Jj Valo highly. Ryan Tammy Day Bell Alex Cox every death is currently under some form of police investigation and yet as of right now, no murder charges have been filed against them. So the question today is not just how did Joseph Ryan die but why and with so many desk surrounding her I mean we have to ask is it possible? Joe was lower his first victim. As unpredictable as Laurie seems her behaviors actually kind of perfectly predictable like in the same way that you can predict an animal bite you. If it feels threatened I told you Joseph. Ryan. died of a heart attack in late March twenty eighteen but at. That makes it sound really clear cut and it wasn't quite that black and white. In fact, we don't know his exact date of death because his body was only found after a neighbor complained about a strange smell coming from his apartment, his online. Lists April third twenty, eighteen, his date of death most likely because that is when his body was discovered Lori and Joseph divorced in two thousand and four. But she's the one who got the call because she was still listed as his next of kin. But she let his body sit in the county morgue and didn't bother telling anyone in his family that he was dead. Now I understand that after a divorce and Laurie was remarried to Charles by the time it's normal to fall out of touch with your xs family but come on now they shared a child together and would you think her behavior was less understandable if I told you that Joe Sister Anne was very close to the couple while they were married. Thought Laurie as a sister and even the Laurie and Joe didn't make it I mean their daughter Kylie should still have been close to her aunt. Or somebody had a contact number something. But as we've seen deadly proof of when Laurie is done with you, you are sometimes quite literally dead to her and anti had been out of their lives for a long time. She found out her brother died five weeks later only after the police track down there. Other brother so someone would claim the body. There was a speedy autopsy and Joe's official cause of death was called a heart attack..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

03:18 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"Try and sneak in on her to get her to like. Omit information about what happened. And then you know. She doesn't have Melanie Gab anymore her best. Best friend for so long that we know of yeah, who knows, but that's I found that to be a really interesting tidbit as well so again. Guys, not a lot has happened again like you. We are waiting on the custody documents all seventeen hundred pages between Laurie Charles Value and Joseph Ryan, we are waiting the results of Tammy's toxicology reports. I mean not a law is going on right now. The race is honesty. Who can read that many pages that fast right? It's not going to be a Harry Potter novel I'll Tell You. It's going to be a really really interesting read. I can't wait to get my hands on. Everyone should be getting access to that here shortly. And then it's a race to the finish line, but other than that again. Just a tie this up. We will be continuing over the weekend with our profile of Chad Day bell his books, his background where he's going with that, and then we're going to continue up to Charles. Charles values death, we will be doing profile pieces on Zulema Pakistan as well as Jason Mom and go from there, so please stay tuned for our introductory series on all the players in this game and I can guarantee more information is gonNA. Come out and so I feel it it on horizon standby, and then we will continue with our series on the East area rapist, so we have a lot of stuff coming. Coming guys, you can find us at Patriotair. Dot Com forward slash. We saw the devil. You can also get there from our website. We saw the double dot. COM WE HAVE OUR BOOK club? We have live streams. We have discussion groups and case of the month postcards where you get the school stuff from us so sometimes. We have some stuff to drop. Yeah, that's interesting. Sometimes. We do have some some special info. Info drop. Check us out there again. If you have any questions, complaints, concerns compliments. You can email us at Info at we saw the double. No Longer Jim Ellis Info at we saw the devil and finally don't forget to check out our youtube channel and subscribe. We are dropping as of right now. Guys after you finish listening to this, we will have that video on youtube lost, but found footage of Chad debacle. Dad Jokes bad jokes at preparing people's conference. He's GonNa. Say. It's a dad joke, because that's like in poor taste. I think that's really poor taste. Sorry I didn't mean to. That's it for this week. Guys, a lot of stuff is coming over the next couple of days if you haven't. Our last case was on the horrible horrible tragic death of Vanessa Gan. We discussed that case. And we'll be continuing coverage on that as more court dates and more things transpire. They're absolutely so. That's at this week. Guys until next crime. took. Into!.

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

04:13 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"He was arrested for aggravated assault in the second degree against her previous husband. Joseph Ryan, just Ryan had just finished a supervised visit. What's highly who is now? Four years old and apparently Alex Hawks ambushed him in a parking lot. Lot He threatened to kill him, and then used a stun gun to start to shock him in the Crotch Oh man, and just Ryan fell a sprained his wrist and hurt his back, and it's been said by multiple people that Alex Cox actually tried to load him into the trunk of his car. WHAT WE'RE! What are they going to go? Alice probably going to kill him. It was supposedly said that he tried to jog drag Joseph Ryan to the trunk of his car, but wasn't able to lift him, so Alex had to spend ninety days in jail and also was ordered to pay five thousand dollars to Joseph Ryan, and during this time. This is an interesting Ted. Bet someone actually came out in the Christmas. Misery Group in posted it. During that time he sent a letter to a female ex CO worker and friend, and asked for Joseph Ryan's. Picture license plate number. He said that he had friends in jail. That wanted to go quote. Hang out with him. She laughed it off and thankfully did not send that information to Alex Man as we know that would not now that would not have been a good life choice fast forwarding just a complete this this character, if you will just a Ryan ended up dying of a heart attack in April of twenty eighteen at age fifty nine now he died at home in his bed, but his body wasn't discovered for over A. A week, only one his neighbor's dog detected a smell Lori was still listed as Joseph's point of contact even that many years later, so the medical examiner ended up reaching out in notifying her I. It's unsubstantiated, but it has been said by multiple people in front of lorry that Lori entirely went to Joseph's house a few weeks before his death lorries reasoning was that she wanted to quote..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast

The Bower Show Podcast

05:25 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on The Bower Show Podcast

"It'd be so w e. that'd be so bad. It's bad, but you know it's coming at some point like we don't know what kind of virus he has, but. It's I mean they're portrayed all the symptoms of having covert They will come out and say it because that's that's WWe. They won't say what the illness is, but they'll lead you down that path of what's going on To me is. I don't I mean then again. Most wrestlers don't really announce their retirements. Just go away and I I think to play this angle up. This much is. It's almost leveraging wwf away with raise contract. Where Hey, we're keeping this up at some point. If you decide to leave to us your debt, you're just retired. We you know you can go. Worship does scully would flare retiree POPs up an impact. WBZ's still never acknowledges that stuff. Out there wasn't part of our universe doesn't exist I think this is their way of kind of hedging their bets. But at the same time I don't think you bring Dominic back on TV. lsu assurances from Ray that he's not leaving. This is the payoff angle. They WANNA go. Yeah, it'll be interesting where things go, but we've seen a lot of start. Stop with Dominic Ray over the last year, so hopefully the finally fall through and be able to do this impact wrestling. We saw some things that I really enjoyed Joseph Ryan defeating crazy. Steve thanks to OBI distracting crazy. Steve. Just Ryan tells Jay Christopher Dean himself to join canceled culture, and he takes out Dave crist to join, said cancel culture, so the Chris Brothers. No more lovie, e, no more I really enjoy this week's locker room. Talk with with Johnny Swinger and Mass Rain they had Chris Bay on the Johnny Swinger. Chris Bay interactions has been funny. The Finesse and bench press tag team is good Johnny. Swinger is very underrated, fun, character and professional wrestling right now. Ace Austin defeating Zachary Wentz to become a new number, one contender, winning the tournament and I assume we'll take on Tessa blanchard in the near future for the impact wrestling world champion, removing the TINA WORLD TITLE BECAUSE MOOSE! Suggested that he should be challenging for that. Zachary went had to replace trail. I don't know why they ran that angle. Unless at the RASCALS ARE GONNA. Be Breaking up here soon. So that was confusing. Then the the talk of the entire impact wrestling that. Until the final thirty seconds was a promo for the slam over Serie. Pay Per view on June, eighteenth, and teased recently released w superstars arriving that evening. those are the things that I really enjoy from this week's edition of impact wrestling Dr Trae. What were your Samir take some of your takeaways as well. So I? Missed it until the end of the show, but then Poe show. I didn't notice. They had this whole I. Don't know if you watched it the impact in sixty they do. that. And, then so to me was kind of funny seeing Johnny Swinger on impact now. And then there was a johnny swinger match was. And I was like watching men. That guy's aged on seventeen eighteen years but it's just a reminder of how much talent they've come to the company and I sometimes forget. How good people were that are no longer really. Like Alex. skipper like I forgot how good and how far ahead of his time that guy was seeing and punk on impact television just is still weird..

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"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

We Saw the Devil

14:07 min | 2 years ago

"joseph ryan" Discussed on We Saw the Devil

"And then the court like the the people ask Lori for Colby's mattress because Lori said that Joseph you go into Colby's room to sexually abuse him and they asked them for Colby mattress that it can be sent off for forensic testing and it's IOS. Apparently Joseph was really upset about receiving the request for the mattress and some things followed through west. Something's weren't so was Laurie it. Just it was crazy and this is all posted by any cushioning right. Yeah and if you WANNA see the Christmas misery group is where I I saw. In here we have an actual counselor. Who had seen highly since she was three years. Old State Lori is manipulating her. So that's pretty towns. Yeah and I. I really do think that that relationship carried on that in that same fashion so that was my mom from the dateline. After Colby made his claims of sexual abuse. I went on the Robert Hall. Not and that's why I found it. Relevant is kind of led to well. Here's a family history of going back to Joseph Ryan and then Oh my God you know this is how highly from basically birth has had a terrible relationship terrible life really and how it translates and now here where we are in this case so I found that to be incredibly relevant and powerful personally. Yeah for sure no I. I read that twice her. I mean it's a fairly long post but just it made me so sad knowing what you know she witnessed and that's with the company over so think about that too. So what did you think of the woman of our the woman of the day? What did you think of Melania showing on this aisle? My Gosh so I just WANNA almost talk about body language as a whole because there are several times first off. Melanie is in her own right. She just looks like I don't know days acting like she's either on a been Zoa xanax. Something she did not act normal. No yes she. She seemed like she was in our own world. And just kind of like looking through someone is of the look that I don't know I I came up with. I don't know I like a Stepford wife. Yeah that's good. Yeah that's a good relation there I just noticed to just her body language from when she was talking about her stuff and then when it was turned to talk to how it shifted like abruptly shifted real quick off of Melanie but when they first opened and Colby was on and he was saying something about like. Mom loves US Keith. Morrison's I yeah I was like Oh man. There's yeah there's a lot and just as far as I won't say that a ton of new big information came of it. There were a few details that I was like. Oh you know I didn't know that before but nothing huge in my opinion. What do you think if you're like author was like very little actually new in the series? Yeah I mean it was good though to see them like to see Melanie. And just e you could tell Keith. Morrison was in a couple of times like his transitions. Made me laugh because he was just like. Yeah and this. Like just the way. That he transitioned to the next either interviewee or whatever he was doing he was say. That's bullshit so what I took away from. Melanie is like you said she was just law. And it was ridiculous Melanie said that she was not close to highly at all and which I find really interesting. Considering she lori were so tied at the hip they both got into the Chad. Right the PODCASTING. All that stuff. Yeah and the other to Rexburg and the Melanie followed so she also talk about highly in the past tense and in Rexburg. Melanie was highly quote nanny for a while. So yeah that was one of the big things I found out is that Melanie nannied for tyler when she was little and Colby when when he was younger so I feel like if you manny for any kid. You're going to have a little bit of a relationship not that you love every kid unani four or baby-sit or whatever but I mean they're they're related and I mean she's not terribly older than her mother Lori was like Melanie's mother so like by Default. Wouldn't she have some sort of bond with highly? That's what I'm saying but also just as far as like you're always closer with like the younger older right. Typically makes sense and so melanie would have been that younger older relative that she probably would have bonded with so. It's just yeah. It was very strange to me when she was like. We weren't close. I'm like okay. That's that's really weird. How are you not close? Not Saying they have to have like a ton of similarities by all means but I mean you live close to each other in. I mean I'm sure. They saw each other a lot when they were in Arizona and then she claims that she didn't see the kids when she expert and then just the fact that she said she. She talked about how she asked Laurie where they were in. Laurie just made up the thing about highly being with friends or villainy was like I just took it at face value. I just believe that and Melanie's where it was mentioned. And I wish that Keith. Morrison had followed up probed more on that. We don't know that he didn't. That's true because we're only seeing like what thirty minutes total interview when they're probably interviewed for hours exactly and then the fact that even like Anne said. I've already mentioned this several times. But everyone's cut it like who knows what else he tried to get out of them. That's true those because he totally called their bullshit he and Melanie backpedaled on a law of her involvement with the group itself. And especially with Tyler. She almost pull Mariah Carey like her. You know like really. You've spent like like pretty much like your entire adult life like with Lori entirely without family so okay cool and then she said that what. I was also struck me as very interesting. Is that she said. Alex told her himself that he did not take the shot at Brandon in. Did you see her body language when they were discussing well he had to ask her twice but did he ever deny it And she's like oh she just she. She spoke around it and why he one hundred percent was like but deny it. You see her like Oh Young he denied it. Yeah it was. It was one of the most uncomfortable moments I've ever seen an interview. Right is a very very bad liar. She is she just talks around the question in hopes that they go away and she's one of those people who can't contain her facial expressions and how it relates to how she's feeling in that moment yeah she did that a couple times or just the way that she changes When Ian Talks night and day they also talked. You Know Taro's valor. They talked about him quite a bit talked about when they adopted. Jj and how Colby entirely actually bonded with him pretty quick that he was a pretty good guy They talk about their moves to Kawai And that's where they met April so I guess Laurie's friend. I never knew her name. I had a friend out there. But that's all I do so April's information I think was pretty new as well. Dateline also mentioned that Charles Converted to Mormonism and this is where it was a little weird when they were want to say they were talking to April. They said Laurie started saying she was growing. Spiritually and Charles wasn't on the same level essentially I was like. Oh that's weird. Also April mentioned when. Laurie came back. So this is after they moved back to Arizona and then she came back to why she said. Laurie was manic and changed and she started talking about like Charles. Being the bad guy like being out to be the bad guy all the time and she felt that Lori had changed considerably after connecting with Chad. She told her about the beliefs and their doctrine and she was just like. Oh okay I yeah they went to church together before so they were You know on the same level for a lot of it and then after she met Chad. She's like wait. Wha what happened to you what are you now. Then they talked about to at one point Chad getting hit by the wave and having experience where he entered the spirit world innocence and they're the ones that told him that he should move to Rexburg to write out the end times. And don't you wish that you could hear? Tammy side of this like. Oh we're moving to Rexburg. Why are we moving expert? Oh the at times okay. And then He. I had to so remember a while. Ago when nate on east at a news had done that interview with the woman where you can't see her face and she was part of you know the propping stuff but then got out of it. is this the same interview from? Dateline? I mean not the same interview but the same woman. I don't know so they interview Angeles Stone In. Her story that she talks about is very similar to the woman that talk to me a couple of months ago. I've seen it speculated that it is Angela People have done some digging on that and it's just people aren't able to confirm a okay. I mean yeah. They called her Jessica. I want to say in the interview with me. Awhile back but her story is very similar so if it is the same person I understand the full story al because she went over more but if it's a different person than how many people did they get and how many people were able to leave successfully But Yeah. She talked about her getting accidentally involved with this cult and then a friend kind of bringing it to her attention. Hey you're gonNA call on her being able to leave But she did mention to that Chad. Believe Tammy should have died in that car accident in a car accident and now she was inhabited by an evil spirit. Yeah so that's terrifying. No is obsolete horrifying a couple of other random key pieces of takeaways that I had from dateline That Chad believed that. Tammy was Zombie and quote. Didn't have control of herself anymore. That's pretty damning. And then we go back to Amanda already mentioned April Coli Fright where Lorie told her that she was one of the hundred and forty four thousand and had come with her to be. Save Yeah Laura's like you have to come with me to be saved in April nine. I think I'm good. I love April. Yeah so in February of two thousand nineteen again. That's when Laurie had return. I guess when out there and it sounded like they were she was. Cfu's disappeared But yeah she went to April. Two thousand was like. Hey you're part of this now enables like you know. I'm thanks Lori also told Colby that Charles had a heart attack when he was shot by Alex which is like what yeah. Laurie also told Charles that his soul and body had been taken by a man named Nick. Schneider who is an evil being of course like this Nick Schneider right and I did appreciate to just speaking of the shooting that they did have the detective so to the detectives that day Nathan Cassandra I want to say. Their names were and they mentioned Lori was aware of the situation when she had arrived and the stories between Laurien. Alex really didn't match. We all called out when we were listening watching the body camps You can see it plain as day. That's why like if anything about this entire case. Yes I my my obvious focus. Is The missing children right. Let if anything in this case has me in a tailspin. The absolute negligence of Charles's death day by the police officers. I mean I'm trying to think of it from both sides like really what what they could have done different as maybe taken Alex and immediately and then also when the wife is laughing and joking around and already knew what had happened. we're going to take down to because something's off. I don't know the legality or like what they could have stood on But I mean the fact that they're on dateline saying yeah fishy situation like. I don't know there should have just been more sense of urgency and I don't even know what I want but regardless you know no one. We already covered this in almost every episode. It gets me so hot and bothered. I'm like why didn't you investigate? I mean they are in the background they are. We've seen a couple little tidbits about the investigation. Now they should have done at that same. Of course yeah. I don't know if there was like a a reason like maybe they were trying to get her for more things than they didn't want her to disappear for good. I don't know but they did mention to. That highly. Seemed like kind of calm and had like story And no Laurie freaking trained her like she did on all other accounts. Probably say what she said in her reaction. If you notice I wanNA say her arms recrossed if I remember right. And that's a defensive mechanism rate like that's A. I'm not enjoying this conversation. And it's closed body language so I I don't know but yeah the the heart and then her lying to to colby like you said about the heart attack and him. He says that he went over. There entirely was crying in the. Lorie told him about a fist fight. And then he had gotten caught wind. This fistfight occur because it was a bad twenty minutes ago. You know so weird even as like I needed to get out of that situation and people are wondering how Melanie and Ian met right. They apparently claims that she met in on an LDS dating APP And two weeks later got married..

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