7 Burst results for "Joseph Bryan"
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"To me, he fits, you know, it takes a lot of boxes, he's genuine, and he jumps well to drop the vote every day in cantons, the heritage to do in that ground or on campton, to drop them out, and to grab the way it was they got a guide on they got a guide of what the English horses are like. And I suppose George will have a better, stronger hand in the triumphant commonplace. And yeah, listen, he's done a lot of things right for me. He don't see if there's in the held up slightly in the buildings which will solution yeah, and plenty of experience at our very high level. I think the Irish definitely have a stronger hand this year than the English industry world of division. And so for him to be, you know, kind of under coattails there in red ones. It's probably going to be good enough to at least have an E trade and it's in the building. The ground was officially good on Saturday, but the jockeys reported that it was riding dead. So as you say trying to make up that ground, wouldn't have been the easiest of things to do. And there was also the fall. Which would have inconvenienced a number of them. And at the time, when Saracens risk came down, it was a bad fall for Robbie Don as well. It was good to see him walk away afterwards. He was about 5 links last. When that fall happened, in other words, a number of horses who were inconvenienced by it rare Middleton and scriptwriter notably as well. Perseus way was very badly hampered, the runner up. He was nearly brought down. He had to jump over the faller. But he recovered quickly, got back into a good rhythm. But he's he'd have gone very close, I think, had it not been for the mistakes, like his hind legs have basically gone through the last. And he didn't meet the second last, particularly well either. But he rallied really well after that plunder stayed on strongly to the line. He's given away three pounds to no rest. And he does have valuable experience of cheltenham. He made his hurdling debut at the open meeting behind script writer, ran well that day one second. If he can jump better, he'd be a player in the boodles. What is the current market for beta with perseus way and more importantly with the winner in his red Barry? Yeah, well if you're a keen on those red he said 6 to one from 8, but if you work in a luxury, you'd have to wear you have to factor in parishes ways wrong. He's 12 to one with us and that's the best on offer of their user short as 8 or so I want to play here. And as you did mention, Emily was very unlucky. But to follow our tree out, I suppose a lot of them were hampered, but he was probably he came out of a war staff. They did pull a long way clear of the torrid horse rare Middleton who's not a bad animal horse for Paul Nichols at the frontier with decent performances. What I got from it was they were all very keen to remain gone and right handed with them really. Joseph bland said that Donald Jacob said that he was able to win, I suppose since Ponte said on the race a dentist did write in and in between those he was well beaten behind blood destiny and lassie milled leopard stone as well. As Tara Jacob said is going to be better going right handed, but the problem with that is there's not too many options to go right handed between now and maybe pointers down as opposed. So look Willy go there. I'm not too sure and Joseph Bryan did say the builders is an option he said, but he didn't come down saying that he preferred them to go right handed. Look. You know those owners are sport instead of owners. He's well fancy. I think he's second favorite to win to win the buildings there, although at the moment, but it's
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Just because he's a bit more favor in the betting, but I would have to simultaneous because, look, he's won three, hasn't he this season, three on the bounce. I mean, their pipe was a couple more question marks over him just the fact that he's been beaten a couple of times and he's obviously had Windsor during returning, I think he had a little injury or something. So there's probably a couple more question marks with him, but I think the Cornelius looks from the improve. So perhaps he's a bit more value. There's a part of me is almost willing to back him to win the race. See you poo. And there's another part of me that just can't get away from adagio. So we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. Thank you. And the other one hasn't. That's true. That's true. That's true, yeah. It has the experience of being to the cheltenham festival and has the experience of also running in the great wood. And that can stand them in very good stead. The betfair ascot Chase went to Ireland. For Mark Walsh and Joseph O'Brien, he really had to dug it out, finally industrial back and third with two for gold in second. What did you make of the performance? Yeah, great, great performance, wasn't it? From faculty do destruct, but I think Pacquiao who? Sorry, I was faculty. We've got Fannie and the best of our in there as well, haven't we the Venetian William talks? Yes, we do yet. Well, he actually he actually ran pretty well. I thought, third, because he sat, he sat out the back into the whole race, but yeah, I thought this was a very solid performance from the Joseph Bryan horse back he did a degree and yeah, he justified favorites and didn't he? I mean, two for gold is running a tremendous race back in second at 25 to one. And he had that inside rail and I thought he had every chance. But yeah, factory has been, I'd say in his career a little bit underrated. I mean, he's put up some really solid performances in the past. Runs from tremendous races. He's won plenty of great races as well. So he does go under the radar a little bit either thought in my opinion anyway. But yeah, take nothing away from you, I think it's great Joseph Brian sent him over to ask Scott and he was justified favoritism. Yeah, and I thought the horse takes from it was, yeah, funny industrial, because initial William's horse and child Deutsche sat. So quiet at the back held up in Rio and he stormed home to finish third and there were only obviously only four finishes. So the rest of the horses pulled up. So it was really a tough going ask on today. So I think Jackie raised pulled it out the fire. And I think he definitely goes under the radar, I think, of it. It probably doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's probably got something to do with the fact that he's just gotten annihilated by all. Not once, not twice three times. And people look at that and just go, yeah, yeah. But he wins his fair share. And he's an entry winner. I mean, he was very impressive at entry last year. And he was so heavily backed. And it makes me wonder what the thought process is going to be with fakir duty. Because he's made it, he's made an absolute meal at the second last. And yet has managed to battle and Mark watts deserves an enormous amount of credit for this as well. He just put his head down and battled. And he's got that strong headwind to fight against as well. And he still managed to prevail. And you can, yes, you can criticize it in the sense that what about the horses who dropped away tamely, like what about Austin translation, tax rasher and San caldes were fancied in the bedding. And did nothing. He can only beat what's put in front of him. Fanny industrial is a very solid form guide. He's got an official rating of one 62. He's a very, very solid art stick. And he's beaten him and he's beaten a 154 rated two for gold, who was rallying all the time. I think that helped him. I think it helped him focus. So would you go to childhood and take on alo again and bid for glory or would you wait and just try and win back to back melling chase as an entry? Well, this is what you said like you said, I think the downfall of this whole traffic area has been alejo. His biggest rival. But there are because Idaho is definitely going to go for the Ryanair. I think there's no other race seller has them go for. Well, unless the school cup, but I don't think he's going to that. And then I mean, pretty similar, it's exactly to be honest, because to me, that's his ideal trip because he doesn't quite say three miles, I don't think, well, in my opinion, anyway, and he's obviously a great one winner over two and a half miles and aren't really that many choices for him. So it looks as though he would, if he does go check, he would have to line up against aloha. And you think, why not? I mean, given the way he's won at the weekend, he looks in good form. So suppose how he comes out this race, as I said, the end downfall that source is the fact that he's going to have to take on alejo again. He's beaten him so many times already in his career. Yeah, I think you're right. Look, maybe you go to cheltenham because you should never be afraid of one horse and certainly going there with chantry house last year. Taking on envoy on whenever one, including me, thought he couldn't be beaten and Downey comes at the second. The second or third, either way. It didn't quite go to plan. So you can't be afraid of one horse, but allaho was just a Lahore was devastating. A chart on last year. And there is no reason to think that he won't be the very same this time around. And everything that he's done this year leads you to that conclusion as well. So I think he's one of the most solid favorites of the entire festival. He probably won't go to any tree. So if you want to go to cheltenham, go. But entry is where you stand your better chance of winning. In terms of the disappointments of the race and fair play to Joseph O'Brien because as it was pointed out by both Rory and Melissa, flying over or getting the boat over whatever it is you were doing, that's not going to be easy in those conditions and we saw how difficult it was for airplanes to land at Heathrow and the damage that was done. So a well done to the tracks for getting the racing to go ahead and be well done for getting horse over from Ireland experiencing that either rough seas or turbulence and succeeding. The Paul Nichols factor we need to talk about. Because San calvados has been moved to the nickels yard. By case and Andrew Brooks,.
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Just because he's a bit more favor in the betting, but I would have to simultaneous because, look, he's won three, hasn't he this season, three on the bounce. I mean, their pipe was a couple more question marks over him just the fact that he's been beaten a couple of times and he's obviously had Windsor during returning, I think he had a little injury or something. So there's probably a couple more question marks with him, but I think the Cornelius looks from the improve. So perhaps he's a bit more value. There's a part of me is almost willing to back him to win the race. See you poo. And there's another part of me that just can't get away from adagio. So we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. Thank you. And the other one hasn't. That's true. That's true. That's true, yeah. It has the experience of being to the cheltenham festival and has the experience of also running in the great wood. And that can stand them in very good stead. The betfair ascot Chase went to Ireland. For Mark Walsh and Joseph O'Brien, he really had to dug it out, finally industrial back and third with two for gold in second. What did you make of the performance? Yeah, great, great performance, wasn't it? From faculty do destruct, but I think Pacquiao who? Sorry, I was faculty. We've got Fannie and the best of our in there as well, haven't we the Venetian William talks? Yes, we do yet. Well, he actually he actually ran pretty well. I thought, third, because he sat, he sat out the back into the whole race, but yeah, I thought this was a very solid performance from the Joseph Bryan horse back he did a degree and yeah, he justified favorites and didn't he? I mean, two for gold is running a tremendous race back in second at 25 to one. And he had that inside rail and I thought he had every chance. But yeah, factory has been, I'd say in his career a little bit underrated. I mean, he's put up some really solid performances in the past. Runs from tremendous races. He's won plenty of great races as well. So he does go under the radar a little bit either thought in my opinion anyway. But yeah, take nothing away from you, I think it's great Joseph Brian sent him over to ask Scott and he was justified favoritism. Yeah, and I thought the horse takes from it was, yeah, funny industrial, because initial William's horse and child Deutsche sat. So quiet at the back held up in Rio and he stormed home to finish third and there were only obviously only four finishes. So the rest of the horses pulled up. So it was really a tough going ask on today. So I think Jackie raised pulled it out the fire. And I think he definitely goes under the radar, I think, of it. It probably doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. Yeah, I'd agree with that. It's probably got something to do with the fact that he's just gotten annihilated by all. Not once, not twice three times. And people look at that and just go, yeah, yeah. But he wins his fair share. And he's an entry winner. I mean, he was very impressive at entry last year. And he was so heavily backed. And it makes me wonder what the thought process is going to be with fakir duty. Because he's made it, he's made an absolute meal at the second last. And yet has managed to battle and Mark watts deserves an enormous amount of credit for this as well. He just put his head down and battled. And he's got that strong headwind to fight against as well. And he still managed to prevail. And you can, yes, you can criticize it in the sense that what about the horses who dropped away tamely, like what about Austin translation, tax rasher and San caldes were fancied in the bedding. And did nothing. He can only beat what's put in front of him. Fanny industrial is a very solid form guide. He's got an official rating of one 62. He's a very, very solid art stick. And he's beaten him and he's beaten a 154 rated two for gold, who was rallying all the time. I think that helped him. I think it helped him focus. So would you go to childhood and take on alo again and bid for glory or would you wait and just try and win back to back melling chase as an entry? Well, this is what you said like you said, I think the downfall of this whole traffic area has been alejo. His biggest rival. But there are because Idaho is definitely going to go for the Ryanair. I think there's no other race seller has them go for. Well, unless the school cup, but I don't think he's going to that. And then I mean, pretty similar, it's exactly to be honest, because to me, that's his ideal trip because he doesn't quite say three miles, I don't think, well, in my opinion, anyway, and he's obviously a great one winner over two and a half miles and aren't really that many choices for him. So it looks as though he would, if he does go check, he would have to line up against aloha. And you think, why not? I mean, given the way he's won at the weekend, he looks in good form. So suppose how he comes out this race, as I said, the end downfall that source is the fact that he's going to have to take on alejo again. He's beaten him so many times already in his career. Yeah, I think you're right. Look, maybe you go to cheltenham because you should never be afraid of one horse and certainly going there with chantry house last year. Taking on envoy on whenever one, including me, thought he couldn't be beaten and Downey comes at the second. The second or third, either way. It didn't quite go to plan. So you can't be afraid of one horse, but allaho was just a Lahore was devastating. A chart on last year. And there is no reason to think that he won't be the very same this time around. And everything that he's done this year leads you to that conclusion as well. So I think he's one of the most solid favorites of the entire festival. He probably won't go to any tree. So if you want to go to cheltenham, go. But entry is where you stand your better chance of winning. In terms of the disappointments of the race and fair play to Joseph O'Brien because as it was pointed out by both Rory and Melissa, flying over or getting the boat over whatever it is you were doing, that's not going to be easy in those conditions and we saw how difficult it was for airplanes to land at Heathrow and the damage that was done. So a well done to the tracks for getting the racing to go ahead and be well done for getting horse over from Ireland experiencing that either rough seas or turbulence and succeeding. The Paul Nichols factor we need to talk about. Because San calvados has been moved to the nickels yard. By case and Andrew Brooks,.
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"We all know what he went on to do and he was entitled to need that run on his comeback and i think he will. There is an interesting one here. In the sense that has been switched from aidan. O'brien to joseph bryan. Aiden is having nothing to do with the melbourne cup. This year he. Mice have a runner at the spring carnival but he won't be having anything to do with saddam. Iraq will almost certainly be running in that race. But inish free this is this is the ideal rate for my mind and instantly. He went yes. That's what we're thinking. So i i agree to a certain degree i felt. He ran a a super race. I'm giving his time all. He's always like long since held in the highest regard. Did conquers on last year. For the darby on meet me to god was all over the ashley. It just never seemed to often was middle nagel after nagel little niggle for me in this race. Actually the horse. You're just talking about. There is back baxter. Lamar and it's a fascinating stable switch. I think they'll want to run very very well in this obviously before potentially going over there I i can't say i've recovered yet from the wounds of him. Getting beaten at roy ascott And the yes. There was just certain things. The frustration be that weak us potentially was because i kept having horses comparing near enough national fortunate getting their head in front. There was just a few royds on winners. Nobody seemed about an image on. I don't want to beat the drum of you know on losers. Still find that. But hector krige didn't get some sort of slap on the wrist even for is right on the winner in suriname rocks raises quite beyond me thank you. I'm rick came into the came into the band Saint louis around four wide and this evening went on a complete collection of to the stands still needs to limerick seven or eight wide. He gets beaten a neck. No stewards inquiry. No even slap on the wrist and it happened a few times. Jim crowley did it on one of those horses. I think the horse will hampson. Core suddenly swerved over onto roy moore and current ally this to continuously happen. I wouldn't be a massive man fourth leg in terms of beating the drum because other people in in in the media visas enough. I just thought that sort of stuff was. We'll just completely swept onto the car push on. I couldn't really believe considering salaam wreck was finishing a train. That's a roundabout way of thinking. I think he's got into improvements Filter three years old gets a weight-for-age allowance. though finish free which could be interesting. You know one raisings. He's only finds inferior and he's got made fans so Not something to potentially bear in mind. The one thing. I would say on on prior to get aga- my face but i would take on earls would all day long.
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"You bet your rex topalov set code k. Those bigger dividends will go into a little bit later on. Thank you allah as they were there on. Show all week at roy lasca but you know it was on show someone who crushed it. Somebody who was on our preview show of roll. Ask dual champion jockey and now leading rider at royal ascot. Ashim murphy sounds good. Doesn't it leading rider. Roy alaska congratulations ocean. Freedom of or. It's not something i expected to happen. That's for sure. Normally belongs to roy moore in trying to tory. Burch want especially and you had a ryan was kind of chasing you down. But you definitely have frankie on your coat-tails. I didn't help what had happened on friday. Which will touch on. I'm sure but going into it. You were quietly confident. I mean you were quite confident about at the coventry. Your quietly confident about a number of the rides that you had you were very excited about Dragon symbol but did you think this was possible that you could be champion jockey. I you know over was just hoping to get one on the board. And then everything after that is is a bonus. I felt my better rides relations. We cover see. Stilman ended up not running but i thought he could win the diamond jubilee. A talk mastercard could win the chesham So few winners on the board earlier in the week was was really really good on it. Just chopping settling things. Let's start with that. So so it's bark share shadow of been schooled by kay. Tracey it despite the fact that there's an e bark shir shadow say hey you can talk. Look at the irish language. Don't even go there. I don't even. I can't even speak irish. It confuses the hell out of me. Berkshire shadow it. So he had blown the stars on debut but there was none of that this time around much more professional which you kind of expect from andhra building horse and the confidence that you had it in them was there for all to see. Yeah he really learned. He's he's an intelligent horse and a fast learner and We didn't actually do that. Much stores practice between new brand on ascot. He only went in our one. Sunny flew out so we were happy with him at home his walk on the grass. He had one kind of strong bit between new brain oscar because he's quite a row or immature horse of We're a free press too. Many buttons are home thinking dynamite. He just doesn't need too much hardship at this stage but one exciting horse going forward. And he's got a great temperament and are easily just absolute dude. You and what would you expect for next because normally coventry winners. Sky's the limit. So what are you hoping for with him. We might go up to seven furlongs. He's a minor in the making their he's definitely not a sprinter type parse so just baby steps back. There's options at the july making near machias. And maybe even if we get off he could go to your in august for something like the committed. Something like that. He fits into all those races very very exciting horses. That was were winner on day. One unusually for you complete blank day two. That was fine because you were saying that the week was was worth things. We're going to really take off and you had made that point as well on the podcast. To so perot takes to pretend you normally very very competitive handicap. You're on a big price to winter and i absolutely. We still haven't properly reviewed this in the company of of kate and And pizza. I'll be interested in what they say as well but i thought you gave the source a terrific ride and just up on the line to nail. Joseph bryan was a tough week for him. Yeah joe's try to not two seconds unfortunately Looking this horse. I didn't think he would stay a mile. I just wrote him. How jamie spencer would reid might turn to head in a stalled so he missed the break he didn't race for the first five finds he was asleep Off the bridle. Practically they went to quick on they stopped in front of the find. A seem off the back william buick and he stuck his head out. He was tough laid on Is a great training performance to the conference to step up in trip on and target that race. Well don't my agent. Those probably shifting orces larisa could've rickman he picked up one so Top next to govern. Just how important is that relationship between you and your agent particularly when you're chasing down a championship title but also when you're going for for big race wins at at royal scott. Have the trust in someone who's going to pick the right horses for you and talk to the right people for you. Yeah often actually you know we would decide her but He chose to ride. Fox's tales chose to write perot and doesn't get enough credit from me publicly. Well he's getting it now on the funnel podcast and he's he comes back to you looking for a pay rise. Don't blame me don't worry ask opponents fair. I should think so right. Controversy then controversy Dragging symbol horse. You were very confident about. Gets the job done in ground that i'm assuming he didn't really like and heavy ground but he still has the class to go and win but there's a lengthy steward's inquiry now..
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Final Furlong Podcast
"Sixty six. Am yuck neural him. Yes they broncos somewhere. The backers. Go away from leave him alone. He don't don't touch him. Great week all the talk with you. My god please. Don't do anything. Scott jake again this year. Ride the The market lights on for our last race run more is on the favourite for michael debt and gb bark. So it's the team a teaming up again to. We've got dream low for murphy. Our good was on with his again at eight to one. So i told you for. Joseph bryan seventy two stunning beauty for spencer with sylvester desouza on board. Because obviously it would be idiotic to james oil on. I mean he's he's just why. Why am i being thrust with this. Kid james doyle. He doesn't know anything. Jesus i just put them back on your horses. For god's sakes demands world-class shawki pete. Who last. This was the other one where i reached out to dove for the record. All have my vpn fired up at the risk of sounding. Like i might have a career in politics here of the vpn on one tv. Where i will be watching. Alex and i'll have the other. Tv with the local nbc. Walking dick for sky and alex the team and you could have just your basic cable. Package with nbc. Like they're all feel. I mean i'm so lucky that i can say at this point that everyone involved as a colleague and i wanna see how the i want to see how the road just we'll just go back do a little bit of back and forth straight. Ask yourself as though you didn't say anything about ed tv. Now ed is well. Screw that guy pence tonight. Tv coverage i don't you know i've worked a little bit with ali but i don't know that team. I don't know that team. Nearly as well and i don't have a third. I don't have a big three here on the desk in the brooklyn bunk to work on that. I like that idea. We'll have wall to wall. Oh yeah and the euro. a who. it's got got to worry about that too. This was another race. I reached out to dub he made interesting case for while yock this been running over ten held off slow paces could do better with the turn. Back distance off a fast paced. She a big move into the race. Last time before fading. I thought it was an interesting case for one Should be a bit of a price in in the nightcap. Sixteens a think yes sixty twenties is gone. Twenties is gone. Rob dove is obviously just decided. I'm getting this before. He tells everybody on the final podcast. So yeah sixteen to one about. Wally akers the best price. You gotta go and do another ten podcast today. So what's your best bet of day to. I'm i'm super excited about twilight evening. I'm going to keep it simple. Okay what's your best bet of the week. I haven't done the for everything yet. But i'm i'm i mean twilight gleaming probably gonna end up getting as much on as as anything so i could keep it real simple and go there. But that's a little disingenuous. In that. I have it like doped out the rest of the day's yet by i'm pretty comfortable saying twilight. Twilight gleaming doesn't go well. It could be a long week for. I really a a really big twice claiming alone week for all of us if that wasn't going to be fair to tesco noodles for the month An academic course you've talked up as well Go run be freeman ba- free. It's a pleasure as always. Hopefully we'll catch you on one of the issues and just enjoy alaskan. I love it. I can't way going to be listening to all of your shows this week with great interest and always a pleasure working with you guys and picking up all kinds of good stuff. Have a great week and we'll be talking soon. I have great week in the money in the money players. Podcast is where you will fund our mind. Peter cousin absolutely hero and Just hear kate's voice. He's just he just makes you feel good so with that in mind. Rob dove given as the winner of this race. Are you in agreement raise. Oh goodness i found this really rings perky stove and especially because we have previous go on because it's the first running of this very caught even heart back to face a mold by any means. So it's going to be historic wooden. Whoever gets i of run hair. And because i found it difficult to solve i'm citing with the value and that value is represented by lula. Show go now. There are plenty of candidates to make beverly breakthrough shit and one such person. I think even closer than last year is david locke non and last season training caroline doubts finished at one hundred one in queen mary. But he johnson's in slowly show on field. Who has similar prices. Stay at margin favor. Lola shogo who are being given a cheap andres for her win last night at your gamely winning men's amateur jockeys handicap over seven furlongs on so crowd out of course. Not foam can always be taken with a pinch of salt but at the same time the handicapper can often take similar view of such. You win which can very often play in your favor because of because of the How much they get this off. The lack of of an increase than in that mark and the latest Was arrayed here and stuff and this should be moved to come from her and i remember seeing a last season when it chip side when analyzing not full the time i took a dim view of it but that reappearance saw was a mock it. Step up on anything. She had previously and improvement as a four year old. Might well stunned and even stand here and especially if you're taking clay off the vilis back to and may well be another one to come here on on the back of the great tiny things make you roy. Elastic breakthrough herself. So i go probably represented the valley but otherwise deciding the cost angle of light on. Hey lights on here to be the contract in a handicap. But she's had of market on a variety sided with too many shows christ on wednesday. I can't do it again. Hit the just pure by the way. What the hell just happened. Just wanna see blue fourteens gas. Who is shooting in p. Clearly just went. I just told the team on the phone. Eleven's oh my god. This is stock market. this is like what he's just. Send the whatsapp group. It's like watching. It's like watching bitcoin. Just come in for this there or got out when i did okay. So this show lower pearson's you're saying it could be. I got win for her book. So far i think twenty three wins this season and very valuable fight claim and while the very very strong fancy for rob dov slash peterson is. Who's.
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"joseph bryan" Discussed on The Investigation Guru
"Actual shooting is is up for debate as well but we do know that. Jj entirely were present for their father's murder. Laurie notifies charlotte sons from another marriage of their father's death via text message. So laurie thins charles's sons a text message. Saying your father is is is no longer with us cope. everything's fine. Let me know if you need anything. But she didn't call them she. Didn't you invite them back. She just sent them attacks saying that their father was dead. Oh of course. The children were wondering what the health and they started. Calling you what happened. How did he die. Know freaking out that their father is dead their their stepmother's sending them a text message letting them know that's just very not cool. Send someone's children a text message that their father has died. You at least have the heart or the wherewithal to call them. Let them so you know. They're they're calling her and texting her and trying to find out. Get some answers as to what happened to their father. He was there one day and the next. He's dead in lorries. Dodging their calls and lorries not responding to their text messages and they just really want to know really what happened. So after his death he was brought to light. That charles was primarily concerned about jj safety and wellbeing as jj was autistic and special needs. You couldn't include kylian these filings. Because she was really not his biological daughter even though he feared for her as well again. I thought i thought this was really unusual. And i don't know what the laws are like in in the state of arizona. I i can't imagine that the police in need off your falling a order of protection against your insane wife and you fear for your safety and the safety of your children. I don't understand what biology really has to do with it. Laurie learned the charles had recently changed the beneficiary of his one million dollar life insurance policy to his sister k. Woodstock who was. Jj's paternal grandmother so k. Was charles's sister and jj grandmother. So again. I told you that. Charles and laurie had adopted. Jj was charles grand nephew. Hope that makes sense. lori was furious and then at the last minute charles Basically removed her from his will only because she was crazy and he feared for his life in the life of his children but a lorry refound out shortly after his death that you know she was not going to get paid and she started sending these text messages. That tried to play on her sympathies. About hor al lori was left with the children and had quote nothing to show for it. So laurie upon his death. I guess. Laurie thought she was going to get paid and the joke was on her. Charles said switched the beneficiary at the last minute because again he had filed this order of protection against laurie thinking that she was going to hurt or possibly have something to do with his death. Lo and behold it was her brother killed charles so again. This kind of again please. Into this this scenario that. Perhaps laurie had something to do with it. Donnelly with charles's death but also with joseph bryan her previous husbands attack and ultimate kind of mysterious death. That you know. We think that alex probably also add something to do so. Alex is kind of quickly becoming a person of interest Whether you know almost kind of like her little muscle henchman. He's gonna do what she wants him to do and carry out. You know her her wishes so to speak but Again there's no there's no real hard evidence that this is exactly what happened Alex claim self defense and the the police bought that kenya. Charles was quite a big guy and he you know if someone comes to chew with a baseball bat then you have the right to defend yourself and whether or not this is actually what happened. That's again something that is working. Its way through the courts now. Laurie was pretty pissed off the that she was not going to get going to get this money. So once you found out that who was. The sister was going to get paid then. Louis started coming after her as well. Nobody coming after but she started really harassing are sending are all kinds of messages and calling and letting you know trying to play on on her guilt that you know. Will i have all these all these children to take care of and you know. I needed that money and all right. So laurie's time beliefs. Both laurean chad. Bill were obsessed with the end time. Beliefs communist some christian. Faith wasn't really the more. The religious side did a lot. Mini christians believe this was very very fringe in very very extreme again. Almost dead blind obsession with the end of time. They thought that it was impending and it was. It was coming within the next year. If you're if you're a christian and new follow christ than the big teaching in the bible is didn't no one knows win. The end of time is going to happen. No one knows when christ will return but again kind of like a lot of different. I don't want to call him colts but that that's that's exactly what they are A lot of these types of colts seemed to think that they they know when the world is gonna end and it's happened time and time again you know. They've made these predictions and that day comes and goes and then they either move the goalposts and rearranged their predictions or they completely disappear off the face of the earth. Once they've been kind of outed as has frauds but june twenty twenty came around and the world didn't end in. We're not really sure exactly. How laurean chad kind of rationalized that but They're all of these preparations and all of these very very fervent beliefs that they held in kind of these in in times in the idea that they knew when this was going to happen and they had to make all of these. Preparations will consumed in great deal of their of their existence. Chat again wrote many books about this topic and again was was quite famous in certain circles. These beliefs were really what brought laureate chad together. You found the book. Bought the book read the book and it really resonated with her and so she kind of became consumed by an tad. Laurie also appeared on several podcast episodes. So the question whether or not they were kind of actively in a cold whether this was you know cult like behavior. It certainly fit the description. It certainly seemed to deny outsiders. They you know the only people who really had the answers were those who were within the group so in meets a lot of cold type behaviors even even kind of withdrawing from from other family. He'll laurie vanished. Those fifty eight days and she Became insular. she inflated herself in began. Withdrawing from charles and charles was kind of wondering. What's going on and you know thinking that. Maybe she was unhappy or that. There was a problem in their marriage and turns out. There was so very very cult-like in its existence niece melanie now. This was not the melanie. That was her friend than kind of introduced laurie to these. In times beliefs in the world of chad day belt valo also had a niece named melanie and she and melanie again kind of bonded over these in times beliefs as well so we kinda got the background between laurie and chad. In what brought them together and how they were really in sync and this whole idea that this whole in times belief system that really kind of brought lori and chad within the same orbit of each other. This appearance of the children.