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Jorge Masvidal, Rose Namajunas; Fight Island Recap

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Jorge Masvidal, Rose Namajunas; Fight Island Recap

"Hello there friends welcome back to a brand new edition of the pod. We've got a great one lined up for all of you will talk a little bit about Wednesday nights. You have see fight. Night Event will talk the whore hospital. We'll talk to rose eunice as well so stay tuned for all of that, but I a reminder that season eight of thirty for thirty returns with heavy. Heavy metals inside the Karoly gymnastics empire, groundbreaking seven part podcast series that takes listeners on a deep dive into the lives and influence of curly and Marta Karolyi, the most successful and controversial coaches in USA, gymnastics history subscribe now to the thirty for thirty feet on apple podcasts. Whole season is now available on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, and as always listener discretion is advised. Take. Back in your life on this Thursday July sixteenth two thousand and twenty Hogan everyone. Welcome back to another edition of the pod as always. We're presented by Modell modell Os Best Ya'll. Root for those with a fighting spirit, so we are doing this very late night on Thursday morning, following the UFC fight night in Abu Dhabi, if I'm talking a little lower than usual is because my family's sleeping right next door to me and I don't want to wake them up because that would be good for me, but in any event we just wrapped up a pretty entertaining event on paper The main event was won by Calvin Cater. He defeated Dan e gave unanimous decision four rounds to one I, scored the exact same solid performance out. Out of cater. He said afterwards that he wanted to fight. The Champ Vulcan off ski next. I don't think that's going to happen, but we do have some big fights coming up involving potentially beat. Mugabe Cherry Pavin Year Regis, cringe, Zombie vs bryner take none of those fights officially announce just yet, and of course they're still Max Holloway out there. He's ranked six I suspect. He probably gets the winner. Those two fights who doesn't get to fight for the belt like if Zombie wins, I suspect he'll fight Vulcan off skew because they have feuds. Feuds maybe gets the winner. The other fight beat wins that fight. That might be weird because he lost his a beat in any event. I still feel like he's in. The mix was a big win for him. Big Showcase fight so good on Calvin Cater for getting that victory and remaining in the mix at one forty five Tim Elliott, the Ryan Benoy to Aka Ben Wom. I scored a four Ryan Twenty, nine, twenty eight. That was a weird one, but fun fight nonetheless in a bit of an appetizer if you will for this weekend. Weekend where we get Davidson figured IDO forces just have been beat us for the flyway titles. The flyweights are doing good things. It was one of the more entertaining fights on the card so hopefully we're not getting rid of those guys anytime soon. Jamir with a Nice hard-fought win over cody statement took the fight on eight days notice, so that was impressive Talia Santos also impressive against mind can thoroughly dominated the the Liverpudlian us, so that was a great win for Talia Santos who now improved to sixteen in one. What about Muneer less? FID Abdul Razzaq, Hassan fight started really poorly for. He turned things around that. Guy's got a Chin holy smokes. What a great performance! In his debut! He improved to ten in one, and how about hums that Shemaya? Vote Tweeden, probably the most impressive prospect on the card and the card filled with tons of impressive prospects feeding John. Phillips that was as one-sided as it gets the the first UFC debutante to score a hundred or more total strikes in the first round of their. Their debut so very impressive stuff from him very one sided stuff, and I think that he will be a player. Remember that name Hums Shaima of is going to be a player in the sport and other guy who I think is going to be a player is the Miracle Laurent Murphy? He defeated Ricarda Romo's. He was shot in the neck six years ago. Bullet came out of his mouth. Spit out survived that they call them. them the miracle six months later gets his life back on track curious in the picking up his first win had a split decision draw in his last fight, but the Murphy's name to know out of the UK, so remember him and We had jared Gordon with a Nice victory with Paul felder in his corner over. Chris Fish Gold. on Went Jack Shore with a nice win as well so those are some of. Of the the notables I pretty much went through all the notables right there, but in any event it was a good car, and of course now we turn our attention to figured I'd open Evita's on Saturday. They'll be the third of four events on Fight Island and then we'll wrap it up next weekend with Whittaker, versus till for now though I spoke to him recently, who is still very much in the news he had that. Huge weekend last week, and fortunately he fell short against Kamara. Who's been you know the story by now? Here's my conversation with Horia Mazda in his first interview since the loss on Saturday to. Enjoy here we are what two and a half days removed from the fight. Obviously. You're upset afterwards. You handled it very well. You face the music you. You went to the press conference, but how is it? Sitting with you now, how do you feel about the fight? Two and a half days later on, uh, got the same exact fire that was burning them at. A winner runs Princeton just fucking and blow up my lungs. Ghia Sensitive full-time. In. Assumed that I woke up yesterday. I wanted to work outside a nice little bike ride place in spike while afterwards that I got tired. good weight lifting session in just got a lot of jet fuel immunologists the only way I deal with. This is by working out or eating. Don't WanNA. Get fans stuff again. I'm GONNA work out. A line. Just released my demons that Wayne now. When you say the jet fuel and the demon stuff. Is that frustration? You feel like you need to get that out because you're mad. Combo thing it's. It's you know. If I would have done this than that. You know so out of things in in anyways alternately just being better shape than others, the factor, a big factor on on Saturday was the gap said. So I definitely proven that on all aspects of. So if I can, I'd love to go to before the fight. You know you said all the right things you know. When we spoke on that Sunday night, right? You told us one ninety two. A lot was made the one ninety two, but you've never miss. Wait before and people who follow him a May didn't really. Raise too many eyebrows because we're used to that sort of thing but. Internally were you worried about the weight because of the travel and the quarantine all that stuff where you're putting on a strong face, but internally were questioning it a little bit. I. Could that amount of wage jobs under the pounds so I was definitely Suck, but I knew I do it because I've done it, you know in the older you get, the tougher. The Hardaway wink couldn't go. So I definitely was going to be tough. But anyway the signed up women, and he would have signed up for in I. Have Been there done at one. Hundred and fifty five pounds is part of the program to large water at that week at one, hundred, seventy, three, hundred seventy four pounds of five percent body fat. was they get down to that lower? The ritual was water to get fifty six. Took It'd make itself Clinton was suffering, but I I got the job done so improv something when I signed the contract. I liked to make weight. It feels like cheating I felt like. Man I got three hundred Gonna I'M GONNA break? You know, compete for world title and being punked. I signed dotted line was sixty six hours six months. When you sign in data, mine your first obligation. To yourself and your bonus weight. And so, how close were you to? Not Making like? How difficult was it? You said it was rough on Friday at the at like the Scom after the win, it was let me say something from top to bottom from from mean loose mint from to all the way on the of Luminaires, every guy girl everybody fighting a car rival positon at a lot of people know it was rough. On Teen in Vegas. Quarantine diving since you got there in hotel rooms in invites some of these guys and girls fighting for five million, so they had the fly Abu Dhabi get adjusted with time in get adjusted that be at their most alert. They've ever been for him. So hats off to a lot of these competitors. Especially, the young ones 'cause I've I've done this for a while and Brag that competing Japan five times south real. I've done overseas. A lot of these competitors have been like the first time. Find Overseas, and they did really well nothing to handle it. Amazing Carter was just stacked from top to bottom of Pfizer good everybody's got their their money's worth. Will you ever worry that you would make weight? I was reading, but I was worried MINIMA dog once I sign that dotted line. Make the weight you know. I got a reputation to keep. How much do I don't know maybe weighed yourself. I don't know. But how much do you think you would come? Saturday night or technically Sunday morning over there I got on the scale of one, hundred, eighty four. I've put back on about fourteen fifteen. Okay and come fi time. Come you know the time that you were in lockdown. Were you feeling okay or did you still I mean the the way cut was was obviously draining. Did you feel like you're back to yourself still hurting a little bit? The world draw the conclusions when Harry met. It's all their papers and numbers guy rather go off numbers and stuff it's auto. My Body looked like another fights in this fight it's it's offer for the people to saying. I feel like I don't have to say. You know, but obviously I wasn't I wasn't. Specific fighting when I got the call six days away, I was not in in the demos morning. General condition as running ways. Azoun. Different things I wasn't in the management I was in the Matt. Four Times a week, but my priority was again relatively better shape more long distance running things like that wasn't specific training for that until we got the condom started trading specifically for finding ended the best that I. Could you know so I? Don't WanNA. Admit he's you. GonNa take nothing for Muslim because Union sixteen notice fighting the world champ. I am dangerous. Ing Tiger at all times in. All that you know, it was a battle, it was a fight for real estate in. One in the real estate side more often than not who's able to take me to his side of the world in Keaton. Their show on I. Don't know from them, but we'll leave it up to rematch I. let my actions speak louder than my words. From accuses you I. Sign that dotted line I. Know I got myself into, and you had twenty hours a traveling that way and you was everything that had. Next. I'm not trying it by the way I'm not trying to set you up to excuse. Well I'm just curious in the process and even come finite. was there any part of you? That ever thought like man? We heard about this fight Super Bowl right like when Dana was doing media July eleventh. We're GONNA have this. We're talking five six months ago and I know you're a little bit. Then you take your foot off the gas once they went to Burns. Were you ever thinking if we would have agreed to this deal? From the beginning I could have had a proper training camp, and none of this would have been an issue like. Did you find yourself thinking about that at all? That is I was sitting in the song of. Even more. Sense from from the start you know, and you're talking about the paper numbers of stuff. If if I would've took the original. Do this tape review deal with not been highly beneficial them the way they were structured it just wasn't you know so. I had to take a gamble on myself in I. wanted to make sure that the gambler was finding them guaranteed money, but I'm going to get paid on. Bringing numbers I. WanNa be compensated for. You know they wouldn't strike that deal with for site. We struggled this time six days away in. We were going to strike the deal. A lot of insane factors Ryen let corona happen, so the guy gets dismissed six eight away, but all these free inside the happen. To get the comfortable with. When we spoke on the Sunday before the fight and asked you about agreeing to the deal, and you're like. Yeah, you know how it goes. You got sign a tentative deal now that stuff however when I spoke to your co-manager, Malki Coa a couple of days later, he was like no, he just signed like a one fight addendum. It's not a long term deal that he signed. Can you clear that up for us? We did not sign him on June deal. I'm being told it was for this fight, but not my other countries some place I think. One time offer. One time. That's probably better for you, right? It is. Did you not know that. I was I wasn't trying to worry about at that moment already. Emigrating taking care of destroying your now. Can I bet on myself in Be brought to the table giving scraps. Yes, okay good. The rest of I wasn't trying to too much about because I was already thinking what to do with the way. Is Strategy. How should I disperse my energy? Things like that? My mom was already in place last thing. preflight related did the time difference mess you up at all the fact, the you're fighting at around seven eight am over there. Were you successful in your effort to stay on Miami time, or did you feel a little bit off and again not trying to set you up I'm just curious about the experience because it's very rare for fighters to fight in the morning like that and I think that's a great question. I said earlier on hats off to everyone. Japan five times South Rubio Russia. England, you know so I. Have a lot of overseas experience in. I know that. I, know I know what I gotTA. Do get ready having to fight to to adjust to the time period, and then have your most ready at eight in the morning after just at so I have to be sleeping, maybe at a different timing waking up in the day in the war guy than going back to sleep by leg around one two in the morning in stay till like ninety in wide awake in like eight am. Be My mostly. We had to play with those numbers and stuff, but everybody accord to do that so I'm not making shoes. What everybody went through hats off? I don't think a lot of people by Ono. Because everybody had to get adjusted date. So. It's really It's really like a testament to the spirit of the enemy. Fight we will. We're dogs. We're GONNA. Go out there and put on the shown matter. What that's where we're. One of the fastest growing sports in the world were just unstoppable I think a lot of regular human beings would not want any part of the massacre place, just a big shot down my brothers and sisters on the carcass. They gave it their off in wasn't eating. Was a part of the game plan to come out really strong in the first you worried about the cardio affecting you so almost trying to swing for the fences in the first round to end the surly, because it looked like you were definitely very aggressive early on in the fight. Uploaded late. In terms, it could be understood better. I couldn't the mile at my best face, said say right so I couldn't do my my regular timeouts, but I could sprints hot, and then take a break like four hundred yards eight hundred yards after has my birthday. Endure it again. That was the type of shape that hours morning, so no spots. I was trying time. She landed finishing blows. Blows work on harder. Everytime was on the civil sense. I would obviously trying to came home in charge in try to Campbell and things like that as to where it will. Smith was ready to run the US able to run the mile and keep that pace. Continue seeing. Cheat me off my game in imposes. And take it to his side of the savior. Did. You think you on the first round. I I was just the whole time. I was thinking every time even before the first one after I I needed. Kale s only winded. is even if a winning I might not have the greatest guys in the fourth and fifth round from just trying to adult time-scale. Okay, when did you start to feel like you're losing a little bit of steam? segment liked legs. You're like. Boom. It was causing a lot. The move the legs literally, but it's the fight game in what signed up for. It was still believe it or not Emma most hired having made this world champion. China come, take my head off. Still a good time and I was still had remembers while. This is what I love doing. I'm doing, you know. Be Grateful. I think this will be one of the coolest stories that I could ever have maybe. Just outside factors, six, or whatever this whole corona pandemic Ratner score on the living, throughout the to not only earn a living through his theory or go through some crazy stuff, ban L., stopping places in the world in severe hostile time very crazy times limit through so that I got to live. Tillage Compete people world title on these circumstances I'm just thankful it was it was why join. We saw a couple of head butts. The cut appear I think that's her right eye yet at one. Is that from the head and? That was the first one that. There's more citizen I don't. Discipline was up for my. Of. How many stitches total. GOTTLIEB. And you mentioned the legs. Is that something that you've you've felt in the past when you're going for like the legs kind of going out on you very early in a fight, and and if so mentally, what is that duty you? Fifty five is your stone. Popping you tell them with a cross over the in her that Saban Caramel. Didn't have stopping. Power was more like a like a second third babysitter were once back seventeen nausea to put a little bit of sizing. Keep that explosiveness I was able to catch guys and at fifty five in training feel good. You know four weeks before fiber once it was those lasting travelers out of weight and getting mad at art, the Power Liu, so that's one decision led Saturday come up from fifty five to seventy just to feel closer to high phones. Far you know. A lot of people online were criticizing him for the foot stomps. Those affect you at all. Have a lot of condition I. Take Heavy Badge all the time. Hit the pads all the time. You know, so fighter defied. We know that that doesn't do anything you're not. GonNa I went bike yesterday listed weights a shot from any capacity. Did. He do anything that surprised you or impressed you. His strength the way the way that up could just like. You know some guys are paying explosive. Right in some guys are this. Keep that strength the whole time. He had a good grip season. And he had a good squeeze right here, didn't he felt really strong in the news able to keep it up. She fading started to drop, but he was keyboard us able to keep a good percent of a of guys start really strong in his every goes a gradually get sweeter. He was able to sustain that strength. After the fight, you guys embraced, and you shared some words in. It seemed like there was love there. Why did you feel the need to do that? I didn't feel the need to do. Them, he had said something he was founded where I responded were on. It said it was just it just happened within plan that was. Going into the fight or even during the fight, thinking of any just happened We both That Unites Things. He said some things that. Do feel like the beef is over like. Is there more bad luck as you guys both that it was personal going to the fight. You feel like that's gone now. I always said it was fitness and there was that it was personal, but he did. He did cross the line yet. Still believing bustling, but everything is business in this floor. Ain't nothing personal. It's not personal liens, not personal everyone's. Always, it's never person, so we bid. On. I'm not taking this stuff into the great you right? You feel like with him. It's over. Knows just begun. You know as far as competitiveness goes. You know as a person I respect. Everybody gets naked. Can't nobody tell me how the heart of a life? It is more than me, so everybody gets in the cage. Man Woman Child anything weren't they are expecting? I know what the older during these paychecks. So of course I respect for him most of the competitors, ninety nine point nine percent of them at least for now. I saw you briefly talked to Dana in the cage. What what did you say to him? Or what did he say to you? We said some things You know we haven't faced Dana soon. Measuring is down at some words. A little menial. Talking back and forth on. You know just good things. Don't talk with him a little. Burning she were. He said earlier today. He acknowledged that you are a pay per view star. I don't know if you heard those comments, but do you feel like he believes in you now? Do you feel like he wants to be in business with you and promote you and give you what you think you deserve like? Are you confident of this? Down talk with women Like Sam numbers gotten. Actions speak louder than words. she were air in and go from there. Did. You have any conversations with him. Outside of that cage conversation throughout the weekend would. No. I don't talk to anyone. Right. I'm sure you may have seen their reports about the pay per view. I don't know what's true. What's not but Dana? That did very very well when you see this. What do you think I've seen? You probably always thought that you were drawn. Deserves a lot of money and you wanted to bet on yourself, so that would suggest that you thought the paper. You will do well, but when you see this is like sort of like. Hey, I told you so what what what goes on these reports? I initiative fight. wanted to better myself. The structure of it wasn't quite right, right? You know it wasn't a we wanted it. How betting man? There was bent on himself would get rewarded, so that was the initial knows. No, so when they came back around was different. Some gazette leverage you know I guess, and we were distracted deal. There was veritable sides of you. There will be more fair to them. Also being in me, you know, but it was definitely much better deal in in now into this Say The structure pay-per-view. I F. You're well, you know if I. IF everything goes back is reports of saying I feel we really well. Your going to be compensated. Because asked from guaranteed Mona nothing, but just the way the reset of destruction. I feel more a lot more comfortable with. If the pay per views in that ballpark. How much walk away do you mind me asking? what is that guy was don know. What am I forgetting last from from Now? Say wrong any murders. You know the guy from from those outraged. That's all I can say that guy which I next to the United States. But you'd want to talk specifics. No because we don't even have were all theories right now, right so. Mandates lives pay per view numbers. You get back on. They come back and then we can have this discussion. You Know Okay Notre. Guy! Like. No concrete solid things fair to say though the biggest payday of your career. No matter what yeah? Yeah. When you sit down six notice of muscle. Businessmen add to be with my wa My while you know. That twenty conway cut had to be with. My Lad had compensated for that. You. Know talked about sort of lamenting the fact up. This would have been done earlier. I wanted to have gone through the trouble of cutting the way this much. But. Do you believe that because of the short notice situation because of the whole crazy week that you are now even a bigger star despite losing, it almost feels like the legend has grown even more and people love you even more, and and are just have you stepped up and fought for twenty five minutes all this stuff? Have you noticed you are even? More beloved than you were going into this fight. Will. Off The like Fannie Judgment Demand Letters. You've been trying to respond back to I would say wow. Goodness inspired a lot. No, I inspired a lot of individuals. Have you say that I got some very touching medicine? We're trying to respond back to him. It's crazy. Man I! You know when you start the journey you. you start fighting especially thinking about writing for me. My family never would I think that I could influence so many people in a positive way Krazy Zoom what I what I love to compete training for compete, you know. Instead Trudel misfortunes on myself never thought I could reach so many influence so many in a positive way. which is something to this moment right now just brings a lot of pride and joy. To. Keep pushing to keep doing things you know I was at the gym today. News photo shoot. You know in a lot of these kids. They were young baseball team. inspired you know in I'm. He's got to get. It managed to get after you know. Chase your dream of full dedication. I gave some speeches out without even on like twenty kids listening to giving speeches, 'cause they're just asking me around my journey, artois. Tell you so. I never thought I'd been inspired so many deposit win. That's just a blessing from God. Why do you think people have connected to so much? Especially now because I mean if these numbers are correct where there's a strong case to be made the you're the the number two biggest paper you draw in the sport, and this is year seventeen of your career. It's it's unlike anything we've ever seen. Let alone anime, but sports period like usually when you're in year seventeen, you don't become a megastar. You're usually at the end of the career. You're hanging on etc. Why do you think you have now developed this connection? This intense connection with the public to where they love you so much. Why do you think? Dog. The dog, a lot of Assam especially the ones that the might have failed open up a business in the failed or you know didn't pass that test. The first time they failed and said you know what you can do it again. I'm going to read books. Impasse attached I'M GONNA put in more hours and get that promotion. And? That's what I get a lot. At least what I can tell you. People come up to me in there in more motionless state, not just so much. A picture like synergy may sawyer or something touching done for them in their life in Madeira. Dating back to me is is a Lotta time to get. Feedback is qualities that never does not fight. You can find that equate now six. They noticed. I'm not quitting. No matter what happens in in be really liked that. That characteristic. Dog, Windows GonNa. Learn from my mistakes and get better and I'm GonNa give you everything. I gotta get going to hit the reset button. Forget about Saturday. This Saturday forget about all those things. Just take the positive things that I could use to fight. Go back at it again with everything I got. In I think that's possibly the favorite characteristic, ending people related allowed to actors. Or wanted to vote. Okay just a couple more things if I can you sit down with Dana and he says all right who? Who Do you want next. What do you want to do? What's The answer do? Is No brainer? On. Could they offer me big names being memorial Yes for a fact. But if it's up to me, listener, you know for me seven six a notice. Nobody else were saying they would will sit. Tummy was really actually Dana. Welsh was actually like a Macedonian. Do I'M GONNA? Do it right here. I'M READY TO GO STEWART No so. If it's up to me up course listening right away and cave if they did offer me a big fight or not i. So over her diaz to McGregor anyone like that that you tell me the McGregor right now we're makes. XYZ Dobbs biggest History right in I'm GONNA. Get paid rubber. I feel compensated. Willing off now. That I keep making the right decisions I've been doing in this forever money, so it's not about one you know. It's about I want that Dan Cheltenham stubborn in. In an old better than newsmen are. Prove it. I'M GONNA. I'm GONNA fight again. Take number one the first. Ensued again. Let's shooting in it. You know in after that didn't then we can start wherever whatever comes next to that, but the thing that I want the most immediate rematch. Do you think the you have? C. Will be on board with that I. Don't know what we'll talk to them I I'm sure it will be onboard because this is the most money. is other baby. This talking numbers facts, so there's not like the shutter whenever this is actually true. His actual last UC had similar guys that were in the Cardinal, Max Holloway Bogan ASCII. Is that in same similar formula? I wasn't added to that formula. Net Card didn't do that what you did under under city Something like that now. This does not trying to not nobody in the car with no. Passing some recipe that was different from that other car in he has brain knows. Probably some of that credit is due to me so if he wants to make that big boy money. Back the stole some business. It makes sense you know. Let's see another management. Thinking what he's thinking obviously is what I wanted him. As you've probably seen the talk of burns now getting the shock as he was supposed to get the shot. What would you say to someone who says? Hey, you know only reason why you got. It now is because I tested positive, so should be verses. Komo next. I'm not gonNA be just, but I feel as everybody's in addressing shaving. Joe Before the final didn't intake. You remember the thing was that are scattered, scoured question Maury. Defined Sixteen. I'm not scared of momentum that among GonNa sit here in this people either uber good espn good yeah, guys are good man, but. I'm GonNa vote for myself. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA put the money on me. I want to. Own fight was the knicks in. They could sit here and be You only got like you're saying because corona this. More than just sit there and go to fight because I didn't want those numbers. You're willing to take lessons so therefore you got us. Know? Wasn't meant to beat Oh God. They don't want like that. Do you WANNA fight again this year. Yeah long as You have a scheduled meeting with Dana. now just made it official meaning. Dancing. Dodge mice ask meeting. That visual than yet it's GonNa go mission now. Should just you know facing I? Give him no chance to breathe, but it is important to sit down face to face with them and talk and clear the air maybe. Will they WANNA to do something data losing before the this happened, right? In Connor you know what winning or they're gonNA. Come here. We're GONNA TAKE YOU VEGAS. after the event you know all of a sudden I get the call right for philosophy and this and that, but we're GONNA have meeting. talk again in handled face-to-face in share our side of the store where we're coming from. We're GONNA know. Tell me this story. You tweeted something about hey. Reebok has done before. We knew we should talk about this. Will they not so right before your fight that its venom like? Are you going to keep talking about these things that don't only affect you but affect everyone else now that? Paid. In I think. A bogus fighters except the UC, White Man's will be boring. You know what's going on. Know what these numbers are when. Benfit us when when do we start getting a little bit like a? I don't own accusing. That's top thing guy. What we see is whether I liked the person not having working a job. That upsets you know, my brothers and sisters already made it to the top fifteen. It may be the top fifteen. I don't know whether it should be in there. But every top fifteen guys should not have to have a part time. Foods are any type of job that should be able to do is concentrate on this day night. In that city. Obviously. For the betterment of all. Not. Just, the young guys might not understand. It takes USA understand the system so those guys. This might fly over head with to the ones that are already know. Seasons update time. What did your dad say about the fight? I'm son rights of nothern. He's. He knows going on behind the scenes, so he's happy man that get hurt. You know He loves me and he's very upset. Is a dad loving? We immediately cut some things off. Right always got back into town that he wants to Nov around me, so you runs. A tight ship went fight games, so I didn't have the the fight CAM now. It wasn't a tight Xinyu. He's very. He's more upset at self demeanor. Wait that that he wasn't running that tight camp. You didn't help fight in your. Training stuff, but it could be stricter and. Make sure to to do is for me I had like. Like the for very I got April decide to. Come for two hours. Of you know. A. Little bit upset. Almost maybe he Hug Me Kiss me. Love much love me, but at the same time he wanted to get in the stone. I felt this intensity ultimate. My Sony knows at fucking. Shit show By the way I, saw Abe, your manager, holding a phone in between rounds. Could you here Mike Brown talking to you via facetime Gibberish from from? Mike, Brown to him in time q because there was like people talking in my other ear, people are not but Abraham. Ending was Mike Reynolds vocation, but the fatigue being at. All the time I was my my cognitive skills weren't one hundred percent. What a statement he put out when he spoke to the media when he spoke to us about not being out. Did you see what he wrote about? You know being sad that he couldn't be there for you is. It made me emotional reading it to be honest, he might burn has. Teammates I. Started Becoming Friends in certain coaching, and he's a huge part of corn. Shore it it just it sounds FW say to myself, I wasn't meant to winning Mike. Wasn't there might have even want win the bout. Even on I'm kind of myself. No, but yet might be the Ease a huge factor. A lot of people say have large scale saint in the large part of that is because a Mike Brown and Mike. Events Writing Wise. which Mikey bad that shows you how much he's learned because he was predominantly started off, wrestler any became. guys in any became Russia that had devastating right hand in mixing submission in good ground in grounded out, so might just kept evolving. He's a better striker now. Then he wasn't. He was competing. You know he's always training. Jimmy's always training with Michael Jordan in Campsie. He doesn't stop training, so you'll make wait with me and then will pass for like our with my coach Internet, and in the exchange ideas like avenue. This will you think? Tom Sullivan Wallace. Interesting Try like that in. He's constantly in the laboratory. So I think that's really stays ahead of so many of his work if he really wants to learn everything. In wise constantly coaching yet felt he was coach of the year again last year, Bob by, but he had the most highest level names in. Awesome I'm GONNA go from. Okay last question so you've told us about the fight week. You've told us what you want next want who's mind? You want him later on this year if it's up to, you're GONNA talk to. You have seen hope for your sake. You get that done my last question to you is. You know that that story of you in the drive through and get the call when you're nineteen years old to fight Ray in the backyard, and that's kind of where the legend of game bread and Mazda Osborne. If I would have told that young man that let's say twenty years later he'd be one of the biggest pay-per-view draws in combat sports and you would. You would turn into the star that you are today over a million buys and all that stuff. Would he have believe me or has this now? All your hopes and dreams and expectations. You would've said took him so long. Would what took him salon took him a while to get Dana. I was very young. Dedicated then. Some long decisions Is. It shows now, but. became a little sooner. Some aspirational skill wise in things like that things that I was able to do. Guys at are beat early micro without the pages will no bigger earlier, but. It's all coming back with interest. CONGRATS. Well done to you I know that you will be back. Thank you for the the very exciting weekend. The entertaining fight week in the event everything was just magnified because of US. Stepping up in congrats Kamara was well. It was a fun fight to watch. Uncover and I look forward to sometime soon seeing it again, so thanks next as always thanks for What's that should happen? You just made it official in show. And thanks for keeping your word about talking after the fight as well. You you for that is far as we go back and it's funny because you don numbers and stuff after messages German you have any blocked. I got one thousand nine. You blocked me. I used to be able to text. You direct to go through your hand. Damn to get in. Thinking blocked my Yeah, right now balloting, you lose a fighting and these guys. Thank you Hora Huma other. So great stuff there from game bread, Horny Mazda all unfortunately for him. He loses on Saturday, but it doesn't really feel like he was much of a loser. Pay Per view buy rates. According to multiple reports did tremendously well. You can make a strong case right now that. Is the second-biggest, drawn MMA conor McGregor, and then him and then Habib, and then maybe not as but a lot of people say that Habib is number two. We'll just compare these by rates. To Habib versus poor a this is way more impressive. Hubby was big because of Connor and I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but let's be honest whore. Hey, on his own against the guy who is not a massive drawn Kamaruzaman. He could be in the future, but not right now seems to be a powerhouse and I said a couple of weeks ago that. Whore, he would add around five hundred thousand or so maybe I under shot. It maybe undersold it. Maybe it was more than that. In the end as well as a massive star and I don't feel like his stock has dropped all that much coming out of this fight, so it will be interesting to see if in fact, the UFC does run a back right away. Do they do the Gilbert Burns fight? Do they listen to me and do Gilbert? Gilbert Burns Liane, Edwards do they. Do Maswadeh versus Diaz to? There's a lot of options right now. For the UFC businesses good despite the fact that they can have fans in attendance after a show like that, you gotta say that business is good. They are certainly capitalizing on the fact that they are running shows and other fight promotions and Sports Leagues Aren't right now, so Kudos to them on that now before we get to our next guest Rosena Munis. Time to tell you about our good friends. Over. At modell, modell, alot s best. Yeah, root for those with a fighting spirit does the official beer of the UFC modell is partnered with UFC double champ Amanda Nunez the fighting spirit? 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My nose is. Broken. Of everything else is goodbye like worried about my eye, but. Everything's time of my. My nose hurts. Need Surgery. yeah, well, if it wasn't for my deviated Septum, I think it'd be. It would be something I could live with but Yeah that the Fills really uncomfortable, okay? Do you have surgery scheduled for the next few days? Now so I'm a I have an appointment to see somebody on. Friday, China. Get all that figured out. Okay is hard to breathe. Sometimes like. Actually right now. Okay Yeah. It'll get stopped up house the I. Is feels get. It's just A. Yeah? That's right. That's right. Yeah, it was really it was really big. Before by nuts is like during the It's healing really fast. Okay in a flight back home. was you know with the with the pressure and everything that make it worse. Yeah because we didn't we didn't really get a chance. Like 'cause the fights ended. I was in the hospital at seven o'clock in the morning, which is weird. And then And then we got to. We were there for a while. We had to go dig. Mehta's where like all has met suits. Outside of the safe zone or whatever and It took us a while to get back. And then we had to quarantine in our room at the hotel and they wouldn't even let us go back to the rumors staying in Soviet to have her teammate Chico pack up our stuff for us and then. We decided to wait until the airport, but it was. We didn't really get that much time in between going to the airport from the from the fight, so it was, it was a lot of pressure like in the air for fifteen. Our students a long. Only Gosh would you have liked to have chilled out a day or two to let the swelling? Go Down, or were you happy to go home right away? I mean yeah, there's there's always like yeah. That would have been nice, but it's always I'm always like. Ready to come home I. Guess if we were like in Hawaii or something I don't know selected for a little closer to home. Or there were things that were opened but i. just yeah, there's things we did, but I just like. I'm so ready to get home after site. Yeah, so I. Guess Some people like to Party and celebrate. You guys just like to get back to your your home which I respect. Attorney. Time in like when we when we landed in Vegas. We had a good time because we have to stay at the hotel and it. Yeah I was just. You know stayed up all night. Talking about the finance of it was good Like big kind of like a second home for me so. I feel really comfortable there in I can't sleep after fight. anyways usually takes me a day or two, so we just stayed up all night just laughing joking. By the way speaking of being comfortable, I know Lena. When we talked before the fight. You're saying, I you know initiating love the idea of going overseas, and it's so far away overall. How was the experience in Abu Dhabi for you? It was challenging, but it was also very rewarding. there was there was lots of ups announced. Like could the flight there was. The one thing that I was like I was Carson. My fingers like 'cause we didn't really get told like the situation like we had to take a leap of faith that everything was going to be safe or be cool. going there like the conditions like we had nothing check based off of so. I was crossing my fingers that we're going to get like a decent like accommodation for flying out long but i. also know that like. There's a chance we might be. We might be with the luggage just. Comfortable. But no, but Yeah. I was super like when we got first class seats than it was like that Nice I was like. Super like I felt like royalty felt like really excited to go in and do some work like there was a huge incentive for me, and then once we got to the hotel. It got a little chaotic. There was a bunch of like I. Think just because he was the first. You've been there a lot of things that were not accommodating like. Because our sleep schedule had to be. We slept during the day and then we'd be up at night because we fight at six in the morning, so. There was just the food would come at all hours like every like be knocking on our doors like we had to do like late. Sometimes will the schedule that I was like interviews during the day in. It's like this one I'm sleeping. You know so. There was things that we had to like adjusted, and then I think once once like enough people started, complaining was like he started to change a little bit because it was just like. This is ridiculous, I think. Yes, it's hard to think about those things before you get there. And then but it got better towards the end of the week, being stuck in the room for forty eight hours as well like in Vegas and in Abu Dhabi. That might be frustrating. I would imagine to when you're trying to work out before fighting everything like that. it was a little frustrating. However I hit a really a workout like before I left like Iran like. Six miles than we did like a little bit of moving around before Flying Vegas. That like I was ready for like two days off, but However Normally like? I'm kind of used to keep it to myself during five week. Anyway any chance that I can get whoever I think the the fact that they're like so it wasn't too hard for me to make that adjustment because I'm like greatly Goer however. The fact that we couldn't. There was dislike news limited things to do than it kind of made like. US aware. Like, but we went out, we went for a walk outside like one day like for the summer. Is it one time during the day? That was way too hot, so there's nothing to do anyways. How were you feeling like right before the fight in in the locker room? This was your first fight back fighting the same person who just you know, beat you took your beltway all that. What were the the emotions and the nerves like? The fight. Though this is probably I, only had one of their fight where I was like. The least amount of nervous like I was this time. And that's when I ran Marcos sunset fire. Those like every other fight. I just been a mass. But this time I was just so content with an proud of myself for all the improvements that made just gross than I made that like I was okay with whatever you know and And I. Say the only time I really. Hit me that I like the nurse. Heavy was Friday like the way ends I was just like I didn't get good sleep because asleep was or the way of during sleep ours and it was just. It was a mess, but. Or I was amazed at the time, and then the nerve started getting, but and then even Friday. There was a little bit nervous, but other than that. I was I was really common, and just enjoying myself as much as possible and then. the locker room once it got to the arena, though that was the best energy like those really good we had you know. News, one of the Russian dude air before me, and then it was Max Halloween tomorrow. It was just a really good vibe in there really enjoyed it and I think a big part of that like a reminded me of being on because. The ground or the that turn to Jim. I've made that. I really enjoy Chinese in there for the training camp because it reminded me of locker room failed because it's kind of similar size, and it's just. It really prepared me for getting in the right state of mind. Let me tell you about our good friends over at manscaping a new sponsor on the program of course these days at home, going to do a lot of our own manscaping. If you will, you're cutting yourself. You're looking. Looking like a mess well, let me tell you something. MANSCAPING has redesigned the electric trimmer. The manscaping engineering team obsesses over technology developments to provide you the best tools for your grooming experience. And they spent eighteen months perfecting the greatest body hair trimmer ever created, and they just released the new improve lawnmower three point. 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Dot, com, again, get twenty percent off and free shipping area MANSCAPING DOT COM. That's twenty percent off with free shipping and MANSCAPING DOT COM use code area always use the best and right tools for the job. Thank you manscaping. Support them. Because they support us. So I think most people thought it was like a tale of two fights. First two rounds clearly went to you third round to her a ultimately win via decision talking about the first two rounds, because I was getting flashbacks of that of that I. Fight Against Her. In that first round again striking was was beautiful to watch. You seemed on point. You seem comfortable. You're fluid. You were I mean you were just. You're feeling it out there. Did you like what you were doing? Did you like the way those first two rounds went? I loved it. Yeah, and I loved it. Even considering how good under like how many how much improvement she made like I still was. I still was very. Happy with the level of You know prepared that I. was even given all that so Yeah, I was really happy with everything going into the third new should come up little desperate in also. That was also like anticipating out was definitely like who okay here we go. Go extra shot. In obviously like I got caught. You know but overall I was like I was so proud of myself you know. So second straight time that you fight someone back to back right like same thing happened now her. Do you like the experience of getting your opponent or are you? Are you ready for a complete change now? I mean obviously I think. You know. Yeah. It's definitely like rematch are challenging like they're super hard because. You learn you learn them, and there's a lot of thinking on into it. However I'm a master at that like I'm a genius as far as like my accu and stuff so on so I think it does work in my favor, but yeah, it is a little more extra challenging those fights, but obviously unsuccessful in all of my rematch so so. So, it's something that I I was excited without the same time I know it's GonNa. Be a little daunting because I was trying to think of like. What can she come with in this fight that she can she improve like how what is she gonNA come differently with? Because there's something different, but Sean is Kinda Faisal same way like even throughout her. Almost thirty fights. She's very looks very similar. Every time so I couldn't really think of anything other than like. Maybe she can throw psychics. And it rare to come out with Ed will come up with the upper color. She never through uppercut ever so bird do that is like wow. I didn't think of that so. That's by surprise. But yeah I mean I was still so prepare myself that. It was awesome. Guys able to as able to deal with that, you know the head movement was different, but it seemed like you were able to to find the target more often than not especially in those first two rounds That was the first time in a little over two years that you got your hand raised. Did you miss that feeling for those that had ever experienced you through a whole training camp and everything you've been through. You finally have that relief? Did you miss that sensation? Every day. You know I think it's just. One of those saints Out, forced to take my time and I didn't really want to buy new. Those right decisions like Iowa. Just get right back in her. Do it again, but it's like. No. One hundred percent ready to make sure that I make all of the. Realizations in the metro gross that I need so. so yeah. I noticed that Perry was. Was your chief tournament this time and he was in the cage with you. In between rounds. Trevor was behind. Why the switch for this particular fight! Well I think it's time you know like They're just different phases. You go through your career and I think the I mean we still? We still use a lot of the same like. A lot of trouble. Work came out into that fight. It is just that we've we've. We've relied on him for so long heavily that It was just time for, and it was also. I was able to hear me. PATS. Communication became a lot stronger and better. Because like there are certain things that I was you know asking for for so long it. He was trying to tell me for so long that we finally started listening to each other and understand each other so like then I was able to actually. Implement his style and learn from him more, so it was just more like. More taking advantage of the time I guess over this. You know however long 'cause. He's he's actually been the head coach whole time since I started. You know what I mean. It's just he because I couldn't listen to him on a tire because we maybe have a miscommunication or whatever like in I, think it was just time. Also let me and trigger was flown so well, and and there's so many. Things today learn from him that That's just what was I guess the face. This the plan moving forward at least for now. I mean you know every day is Take one day at a time. You know what I mean like. like everything was perfect actually like. Just like the whole corner like it was just a perfect dynamic. 'CAUSE Charter, chartering, PAT are. Two opposite styles you know air, but they complement each other so well, and because like trevor. His his strength is. His specialty in boxing in a four anime, but like. He's he's so well at that. He's so good at that in paps like kickboxing. Totally different sounds like outstanding your garage you know having have been not as much movement you know and like so. Just blending those two things together was perfect. There was one point in the Floyd I don't know if you've you've. Have you watched back yet? Yeah may about watch your now actually. Yes, right now really. That's amazing. How many times have you watched it? Is that. Is that common for you guys? Yeah? Well this. Many things to like see in. Things that I didn't like. See before like this new little details that you see. This one is different you like I definitely like I became a different person coming out of that. That's one of those fights, were you? You're a different person after that in early. Also, how have you changed? Just I know any bitty rose I know, get nowhere. Girl Fuel. You've matured. In this fight. Because, you have to dig down deep because of everything. You've been through yeah yeah. And it's just like you know I! I think I did have a little bit of like one of the fears that I had going into this fight was like because I knew. Know I know I'm tough as hell. I know that I thought through some stuff. challenges overcome lots of stuff foot. When I've overcame those things. Like there's a part of me that like was surprised kind of like by me. Bandwidth do that like okay. Well. Here goes like hurdles. Nothing whereas like me. Going I was like fully constantly like I'm about to do this like it might be might run into. Some walls might be scary. I know it's GonNa. Be Scared by just going run wall in like. so. Having that confidence going into that like it was more validating I guess that is great to hear. I was GONNA. Ask about. One point where they they put the MIC on your corner and patent particular in the middle of the fight, and he was shouting out just positive stuff and then Michael Bisque. said you know this is what I like to hear from a corner, positive reinforcement, not talking so much, not a lot of coaching. Just you know. The fighter and all that, do you? Were you able to hear that? Because I was wondering about because he has such a a loud voice, and it was an empty arena. If you could hear him more than if you're fighting in front of eighteen thousand people in a packed arena. Yeah, I think a lot of the times like when it's packed I can hear like specific things like certain companies than it is. It's crazy how he'll actually call out like the finished shot or like like he'll call it before it caught. Like opening is is kinda crazy how he sees it like before it happens. and so those are like just little bitty bitty thinks that here, but this time I could hear him a lot more and Will People were very complimentary of your striking and I came across a boxing promoter. Lou Dibella I. Don't know if you know who you're. To, yeah, and I, and I was like man. He's right. He's one hundred percent right. Is that something that you'd love to do an for that missed? It basically said that like you're striking so good. You can have a great career in IMPR- boxing's confronted. We just had yesterday the first female main event in top rank ESPN history. Michaela mayor. For! With her. With her. What they're what I mean she's. She's a tough she is. She's at a lot of attitudes. She is hard to do it, but yet she thumb our return. She's a super athlete and stuff so. Yeah I would that. That's something that I've thought about you know before. But I love him. Oh. I'm so like I'm so passionate about it like but yeah I mean you never know? So obviously I love Anna, of course of course so so you win. Obviously, you have to heal up, but his young waylon next. Are you fighting for the belt next? Well I mean I would think so. And we haven't really talked about yet, but I mean. That's definitely the plane. Is that what you want? Yeah. Like the fight again this year. Yeah I mean those kind of the plan going into it is at the you know. Get this no six. We'll see how I don't know what the recovery time is. Whatever you? Did Dana. See that's what they want as well. We're insulting by either yeah. Let me tell. Sure? We! There's nothing been talking about that in from no way here now. Really, no not yet seen. Come Out I. Think is so like there's like on. Yeah. I think a lot of people. Are I mean there's there's. You know there's is gone out so. We walked in. We walked out like he was yes. After the. Next to shows over many compositions. What happened, but Yeah but I was just curious. If that's what you wanted as well, and it sounds like that is what you want, which I think. A lot of fans would be very excited about and get behind. It seems like it's the fight that makes the most sense I'm just curious. How do you? How do you think that goes very premature now, but have you at least thought of her watching her her style? How do you like the match up? A little bit. I mean yeah I ever since I've fought every since I saw her fight Teasha, been Kinda like you know Scott in her a little bit and I think it's just GonNa be you know beautiful display of martial arts She's a master master like it's going to be in. Be really cool was going to be. A lot more time to think about it. I don't know if you saw the clip, but the Daniel Cormie and I were talking about You've versus her potentially on on my show on Monday I think it's a very competitive fight. He said he thinks that she's on a different level right now. Who's right Mir him? Well, you know you know. At this point our. I feel like at this point. People kind like like every time every Rosa just prove everybody wrong so. I would think that would catch on by now. That I guess that. The. A hospital in I'll yeah. We yeah, we can't really. Restarted game in the hospital and I also know I mean. She says right now, too. So I know. She'll sleep, she's. She's taken by an will never taken a day off ever. She's trading right now. She wants to fight. She knows end. We don't we don't know what's next, but that seeing that will be with next. We started getting that fight in the hospital in our. Yeah, so I mean like I said I would I'd been saying for a long time I've ever looked. I would love to fighter by me. She's she's awesome in La. She's A. She's really really technical, really strong, just really overall like a master, so yeah, that's something that interests me a lot. Is there something in particular about her style? That impresses you. Just like her cultural like you can just see like just the culture at she grows up in. It's a you can really. It shows in her style like just on the discipline. Just like the she's like a robot in on her name like she just she's like a sight word. Machine you know. Have you I. Don't know if you saw she paid you compliment. She feels like you're a a true martial artist. She told me. PERMITTED BEFORE! I can't i. can't remember select. We may have like quickly just really quickly, but honestly like I don't totally remember, but maybe not okay. All right, so that's what we want. Hopefully by the end of the year. If everything goes to plan that is great news, I think a lot of people will be behind that I. Just wanted to ask you before i. Let you go after the fight in the post fight interview, You told Jon Anik that you're going to donate your fight kit and all. GonNa go to Susie, Freetown whose longtime see employees who is beloved by everyone who's going through a really hard time right now, so I just want to commend you on that, and and thank I think it's an amazing thing that you've you've done. Do you have any more information that people can find out about this or how they can get behind it? Yeah, so I'll be making a post really soon here I, just you know. There's been a lot. You know a dislike asking I. I've been doing a lot of stuff, but a A. I'll be working on very soon as INSTAGRAM. Just watch out for the next that I make video just Kinda. Give him more information on that. You guys close. Oh Yeah. Yeah, we! WE HUNG OUT Were you know so She she was kind enough for us to like. Hang her housing. Look for dogs acute. You know she's a. she's a really cool lady that we. We've been owner from a year so. I just feel like a lot of other fighters I. Think we all kind of love Susan. Because we're all like stress out there and fight weaken and she's one of the many like. One of the few people that like part of the staff that source of comfort during by weekends NGO so. Yeah Will thank you as always for the time rose. Appreciate it very much. hope you make speedy recovery. Congratulations on the win so great to see you back a great to see you know with a smile and getting your hand raised in what a great performance was so I hope you get that title shot as well and thank you to to pat an in congrats to the entire team for the great performance Saturday. Thank you. Great thoughtful stuff as always from Rosena, appreciate the appearance or two from Pat Barry as well congratulations to the both of them on the bounce back win, and I kind of feel like they have to go the route of Rose John, what a great fight! THAT WOULD BE I! Disagree with Daniel for me I think it would be a very close fight very interesting, fighting entertaining fight and I. I re- deal this on Monday I. Love Watching when Roses on point when she is feeling good. In my opinion, she's top five most exciting fighters in the AFC maybe not in the sense that she's GonNa Knock someone out in five seconds, but from a technical standpoint from a pure fighting standpoint in my opinion, she's one of the most fun to watch a great win a great victory, a great performance, a great showing from her and undrafted, as well and judge look good fight, especially in the in the third round as we noted in the interview head movement was on point through a couple of different things but in. In the end rose was the better fighter as I thought she was the first time that they fought back in May of two thousand nineteen, unfortunately that time rose, got slammed on her head and got knocked out, so we'll see if they do in fact book that John Wiley versus. Rosena UNICEF I appreciate her stopping by as well all right now time for everyone's favourite segment of the week. It is time for TST's minimalist tip of the week, and it is brought to you as always by Modell modell. Oh, aspects Ya'll. Sending the gold standard for authentic Mexican beer since nineteen, twenty five modell brewed for those with a fighting spirit. GST's minimalist tip. Areo for this week's tip I wished to begin with a quote. The quote is from the Great Roman philosopher Seneca. Who died around the year sixty five ad? So this holds up over time while this big. You actually did like some research this big. No person has the power to have everything they want, but it is in their power not to want what they don't have into cheerfully. Put to good use what they do have so. If you don't know Ariel, listeners. Seneca is a ancient Roman philosopher. Most known for the philosophy for practicing the philosophy of stoicism. He and Marcus Aurelius. Are the big to practice of this philosophy now before we roll really rise with. Philosophy Talk I want you to hear me out because this quote sounds very minimalist in nature, because minimalism is. If you didn't know, it's an offshoot of Stoicism, and at its most basic. What stoicism is that You choose not to control or. Rely on external events instead choosing to control your mind Andrew Behavior. Spirit minimalism. What in who your brain your lives and so many famous figures are known for practicing Stosic Mariel like George Washington Ralph, Waldo Emerson and Smith and those who do practice it suggested as the key to happiness to wisdom into weeding better light. That stoicism can do that so if you have enjoyed the minimum principles that we were laying out for the past several months, recommend taking a deep dive into stores, because I firmly believe many of its principles, which I've researched a little bit about courage, justice, wisdom, and just letting go, which is a core tenant of minimalism. Can lead everyone to a better personal professional and spiritual life about letting go take the emotions out of so many of the things we do removing pleasure and pain from everyday situations. and. That's a lot about what missile is about so if you want to get to know more about stoicism like I do like I continue to plan on doing. There's a lot of books out there by Seneca. By Marcus realize is ancient philosophers, and there's a lot of modern interpretations of as well in a Ryan holiday is a big figure in the space today. He has really cool website called daily stoic. Dot Com and that I get newsletters from so minimalism. People think it's trendy. People think it's this new idea, but it's really been around literally since the days of Seneca so don't come before telling me it's a trend that I'm like some come lately discussed. It's been around forever. Two things number one when I think of Stoicism I. Don't think of Seneca or Marcus, Aurelius, or any of these people I think of like FYODOR million Anco gig Masasi those are stoic individuals. You know so that's the first thing that comes to mind number. Two love the fact that when we did our virtual shown by the way, thank you to everyone who? Who joined US last Friday, it was a great turnout. Does a great time I won the the Trivia Challenge against New York a very one sided drubbing. 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Ep. 3,031: UFC Norfolk recap, Mike Bohn joins the discussion, the future of UFC Flyweight division, more

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Ep. 3,031: UFC Norfolk recap, Mike Bohn joins the discussion, the future of UFC Flyweight division, more

"Title Roll Baby on May Junkie Radio with Gorgeous George and this is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering MMA from all over the world this is the premier stop for all your combat sports needs MMA junkie radio from the Mandalay Bay resort and Casino in the fight capital of the world. Las Vegas Nevada. The lights are on at the Mike. Sir Hot it's tied to get your. Ma Fixed Junkies take it away. Big John Gorgeous George goes. Are you ready? Shuki from the fight capital of the world inside the beautiful Mandalay Bay racing sports book. Listening to another episode of the Junky Radio. Show the only show that matters. I'm your host or discharging with me as always the devious and dastardly goes our co host and goes we have a special guest. Young bond is in studio straight from Norfolk Virginia. To Sin City. The man never stops. What's up guys how you doing what up? I'm great man could have A. I like having Mike in Studio because we're going to be down in a couple suds here so learned. Tell our bosses. We just wanted to have a good time to cap off a good fight week. We're going to recap the you have C. Norfolk card. Tell you all about it. You know all the results all the major plots subplots. That came out of that. Mike again was in Norfolk. So we'll see if he has any backstage news nuggets along with the news nuggets. That have come out this past weekend which there's not many of honestly the meat and potatoes show is going to be the UC Norfolk card and don't forget fight. Week has kind of officially started here in Vegas. Ufc Two forty eight is on Sunday. And so we'll get a couple quick dots. Excuse me Saturday. We'll get there. We go We'll get a couple of quick dots on that event. That's coming up before we get on. Outta here. So buckle up folks and it's another enemy junkie radio show ready to go two thousand eight a former D. One football star pulled off a robbery so daring and so strange that it went viral worldwide. It was a perfect crime story. There's just one problem. It wasn't the real story of what happened. The sneak is a new serialized. True crime podcast from the wind and USA Today Sports. You can subscribe now on Apple podcasts. Or get anywhere get podcasts. On Tuesday January fourteenth today is unable to get a little bit of a break. Saturday to forty eight is on Saturday. But right now we're going to worry about the UC Norfolk card guys. What a disappointment. We should be talking right now about either. Davison figure out or just spend vitas being the world champion at one. Twenty five pounds the flyweight division. They don't they don't really call it the world champ. You guys know what I mean and instead we're GonNa talk about just the sequence of events starting with the way in on Friday and then the fight that took place on Saturday Mike I believe you were one of the first ones. Start putting it out there. Davidson Figueredo came in at one hundred twenty seven point five pounds two point five over the limit and he didn't really even try right to to The second attempt yeah no he didn't just the baby s was the first person on the scale came in right at nine am local time. We're ready to go one. Twenty four point five. And you're like okay. This is great so far then we actually had a pretty rapid success succession of fighters coming in and we were basically through the whole card within like forty minutes. Or so when you're like. Oh there's two people left at one of them is Davidson Figaredo. You're starting to just get that little concern. But I hate when people kind of freak out in the window and they're like Oh yeah like you get those two hours until you show up like out care if you show up at nine one or ten fifty like you are still within your right. Orlando anytime there so I think we kind of make too much of it but you're starting to get a little concerned and he comes in with about twenty minutes remaining and gets on the scale and they read out one twenty seven point five. And you're like wow. Did this any rumors throat. Quite weak at all and he won billings. You know in the hotel or anything. No I hadn't heard anything I mean. We saw him on Media Day on Thursday. When he did his scrum he looked fine. I saw him around the hotel. There was nothing really lightheadedness or nothing like that. No no issues that really stood out to me and I guess what happened was he. The cut was going relatively well and apparently he started to cramp up when he was around three pounds out and I guess from the perspective. The doctors they started having some conversations and really they. They came to a decision point. It's like is this guy going to have to keep putting himself through this and if he pushes himself so hard and he has to be taken to the hospital or something then you have no fight it all so it was like okay. This guy's GonNa Miss Wait. But are we gonNA try to preserve the fight here so we still have a main event? Joseph Plan for the title he can still fight so I think that's ultimately the choice that was made but he was given an extra hour trying to make the way he did not use any of it. They came in because he reached that point. So now I get. It wasn't for lack of just I quit. You know like he broke or anything that he actually hid. The body was shutdown. That's what it seems like. That's the story. I did not get that story from. Fc official or from a doctor anything. This is the story that volleyed Ishmael. His manager provided to US allegedly what he said. I don't really know how accurate volume translations are this is kind of being a storyline coming out of this event as well so that was what he put out to us saying that the crappy started happening and they just made that decision that they want to make the fight still happen instead of him really trying to kill himself to the point where he was going to have to be taken to the hospital or something and we'd lose the fight and do they have the same rules the women at one hundred and fifteen pounds a few weeks ago. I think we lost a fight and I think it was the goodell fight because Grosso didn't weigh in within three pounds otherwise it could have went forward with that was at the same case that would have applied here with Joseph at one twenty four point five point five zero per pound less than what he needed to be and the other kid. Davidson to grow coming in one. Twenty seven point five. They dodged that bullet. I guess but did you hear anything like I'm not I did not. I think that might be a more Nevada rule. I think New York has something similar as well. 'cause I remember the fight a few years ago between Donald Surrounding Kelvin. Gasoline supposed to happen gasoline. Canaan like eight pounds overweight. And you. It's it depends on the weight class too. I think if you if you're talking about a three round. Yeah exactly as you said there so yeah. I didn't hear any word on that. But Joe seemingly unfazed about anything that we can get into that entry. I had with him after the fact if we want. But yeah it was. I don't think it seemed like it was a body shutting down situation for Davidson and then we kind of went forward from there. Okay I did see that interview that you did. And he even said Joseph said he ate breakfast that morning so he was very light He came in prepared. Fight at one fifteen if that really yeah and folks that does exist goes you. And I called fights at one hundred fifteen hand for world series of fighting global in Fact Jared Brooks who I think was getting vocal on social media and at one time was a UFC flyweight. He's actually the number one star. Wait in the world isn't he? And I don't know that we I mean that's so unfortunate about the whole situation is everybody just. Kinda had won. Twenty five's back when it seemed like it was gonna go Rhino and then for something like this to kind of kick in at when the spotlight is as busy as big as it could possibly be for them. That really really sucks. So I mean one fifteen. Maybe one day will happen but not any time. Well who knows who knows if one twenty five. Oh happen now ask Mike a little bit more about that but so so now we're on Friday. They accept the FI- thirty percent is what's decided that dig. Figueredo has got to give to Joseph Evita's the fight goes on with Davidson Figueredo not being eligible to win the world psychic calling the UFC flyweight title however Joseph innovators was going to be able to win the vacant title and they go through with it. Seems like everybody's okay with it? I'm sure the UC officials are displeased at this point but publicly. It just seems like everything is just flowing along until we get the Saturday right. Mike did I. Did I miss anything? There was Ernie anything behind the scenes. That no I think he paid about okay. All right so We get to Saturday did did he have to weigh a certain limited? Joseph put any criteria on him or not he just said that. I carry hydrate to a certain way on time. No she just wanted the thirty percent because he felt that three pounds he had kind of during his experience. That typically when someone is your if it's three pounds or more something like that then you could ask for thirty percent said the twenty percent and ultimately ended up getting not surge. You can ask for whatever you want. You could ask. Whatever the Commission rule is Virginia's twenty. Okay cool which you can go ahead above that and you also ask for the other fighter to come in twenty four hours later at no more than say twelve pounds. I think that's important soda. Why because come fight night? Wow what size difference and I mean I've seen I've seen both these guys fight a ton of time especially Joseph but I couldn't believe it not only did it look like a ban away versus a flyway. It almost looked like a light. Featherweight in verses a flyweight have the stress on a fighter like the second. They make wait. They usually all have either scream or neck sale or something the fact that you could put your fighter your opponent in that situation overnight where they can't have that release until they do that second win. I think that's great. I would do that every time I die man. You know that's a serious thing folks. Maybe Joseph's fault you know his children and his level-headedness maybe almost to his detriment in that situation because as you mentioned in that entry we did in his hotel room. Shortly after the win he was calm as Bob. Yeah like he did not worried about a thing he's like the guy who was the title anyway etc like. I don't care about him missing. I'M GONNA go in there do my thing. And he was just almost maybe a little to lax about it and maybe he should've push harder for some of those things you just mentioned Aman The the fight starts on you know as the main event with only one fighter eligible to win the title and the first round. Wow Davis Figaro I mean he looks great. He's obviously the rehydrated we don't happen to know their rehydration weights you know. They didn't share that with that commission. Which doesn't something that will always happen across the board. I'd love to see that to look. Yeah Figura you couldn't imagine. He like he looked like he was one hundred and fifty pounds. I was going to get one. Forty one fifty cents right to Ben Anita's no no more than forty probably thirty five below and thirties. I mean benefit is hit him a couple times and Benedetti's is coming off of Keio guys coming. Ko over Formiga. If I'm not mistaken for me 'cause the only guy to give us right so I mean I know the A. Plus B. Doesn't equal see stuff but either way I know has some power but yet when he's tagging. Figaro figurative doesn't look bad in the way of fly. It was so scary early on. He he sucked. He took his his best punch. You took this look like he had been carrying more confident. Look like that's all you got. You know that type of thing but Joseph still would catch up from time to time figure out it was really really catching Joseph. A couple of times Because Joseph more of a a windmill or type of guy rather than the street punch guy but I the way how about the first part of the The fight where you almost got armored. That was one hell of a scramble. The fight really got started. It was exciting. The only thing I was thinking was dammit. This could be the exclamation. Fight that the U. OF C. Flyweight Division needed to restart itself a title fight. Which I knew it wasn't going to be but still a great fight. That may be finished with one guy. Being the champion Ben Evita's it started off on the floor. That was exciting. The they were hitting each But God damn and we get to the very end and that's exactly not what didn't happen but folks at one point their heads collide Ben Evita seem to take the worst of it and a cut opened up blood spilled out and during that time when benefit is Kinda was backed up he wipes his eye and figuring out a lands of big right hand. It looked like kraft the nose. You know right above the lip just puts Bellavia down on the floor. A couple of follow ups. That's it man. It's a wrap. I could not believe it reminded me of two thousand thirteen when I was in Sacramento and Joseph had fought Dimitrius for the second time and the first time I've gone to a split decision I believe in your your hometown of Toronto Second time people kept thinking you know OK benefit is might get this one he's Sacramento. Everything's built up perfectly for And he got laid out man and Oh man that sucked to see it. Because just like everybody's been saying across twitter. You can't find a nicer guy than Bennett. Is it Kinda breaks your heart to see that happen to him. Yes he's an a plus character in this game while the nicest guys in just look him in Megan or just such a a great part of our sport their relationship in everything so nice like I personally. I can be thankful for what they did for me during that week. Meghan elite gave me a great and very rare interview where she was on the other side of the talking about what Saturday was going to be like for her. I couldn't imagine that was probably her worst. Fear coming true what she saw there but then she set up that interview with Joe after the winds and software in. Yeah just such great people and I know we're supposed to be unbiased or whatever is media but it's hard when you're around these people as often as we were of course guys share a hometown here in Las Vegas with Joe's. Well you see him at the gym all the time when you're going around doing your off guards and stuff so yeah it's like it's just hard not to form some sort of personal aspect. It's not that I was rooting for him to win. I picked him to win because I thought he was going to win. But actually seeing when the fight unfolded. I think you laid it out pretty well like I was sitting there cage side and Joe was landing. Some good shots and Davidson. Didn't seem like he was affected by the power at all and that started to get real scary and then sometimes the three or four punch combos he would kinda clip them a little bit and look like a a couple of those kind was hurting a little bit and at the same time we know the Figueredo in his loan loss shown showed that he's a little bit susceptible to that cardio issue. You know what I mean so I think it was laying out nicely for Joe because again that round. I just finished saying a little while ago. He almost got armed barred. But did the judge is still around because he came back I think on I think he I think only to look it up right now but yeah it was a it was going to be tough going either way like maybe. Davison will slow down. But I think Joe would have had to be really really honest. Ps and QS for the background like I couldn't he wasn't really having much success with the take downs with the scriptures. I'll say that much as he was starting to put a chink in the armor of figurados. Cardio Figueredo goes. How many times did he stop? Josue take down very very nicely. You know what I mean Boston around like a didn't even didn't even touch the ground. Basically via take down I think unfortunately for Joseph Ben Evita's and for the division really in general. That was a night that was just filled. With what if's right? Oh what a minute. Figueredo makes weight right. He becomes the champion. What Joseph Wins the title? What if the referee catches the head but and gives them that break? Stop the finish from coming coming. There's so many what ifs that night that it. It just really sucked the way. It went down so all three Just to clarify all three judges did a first-round yes India and so remember. The other guy made an attempt to the Finnish In fact I was even wondering Ben. Readers Zelba was okay because that was deep and he's spin he spun out of it you know and was able to secure a single and get out of it. Both guys back to their feet. I'm telling you that fight was really really fun and exciting. Except for the part of Benhamouda's losing which like Mike already said. Hey Look Yeah Oh all right. We're a little bit more on the side of team. Benedetta is not that we were openly sharing or anything like that but We just know the guy he's been around for a long time. I mean I think he's gone on his fifteenth year through WBZ. And you have see. So you know you you. You can't help. But when it comes to those two fighters one guy that's based in Brazil. Those little English I. I don't even think I've met him versus Benhamouda's was co hosted. Sorry guys yeah. It sucked man. It's like to see that guy. Go through it. I saw it in two thousand thirteen thousand last title shot. Now it happens again. I saw Mike tweet. That he's like one five or six that have lost three times to have yeah go through in the AFC because remember he also lost to to cruise in WC so that guys? He's no joke. Man Brennan Venus Loma Skins on his wall. I just mentioned for IGA forming a could be one of the guys fight for a title at some point and Joe's beating in fact he's being sentenced him to us. It's just a match up thing but goes you said it. It's too many what what if it does go all the way to one hundred twenty five. What does he put his body through? Would he be is stout as he was on the following day? No you shut it down early. We don't know what happened behind. The scenes fighters told me every pound towards the very end is like thirty minutes of torture in the Sauna. Or however your methods of losing weight and figuring out didn't do any of that he shut it down early and again safeties paramount. If the guy's cramping up then yeah. We want the weight cut to stop at that very moment. There's no sense in pushing forward with it. Still a colossal fuck up on his end because he walks away with no title yet again. Mike Mike at Mike Von may have. You weren't following him this weekend you. You're an idiot because you also hit on something that shocked me and I even know if you know this one goes. He didn't even get is a reebok money. He only got five five thousand of the thirty thousand supposed to get. I guess that's a new thing like no. It's so there was a precedent there with your Romero. Same thing happened when he must wait for the Lacrosse. They were that well. I mean it's the way it goes right. Like you already penalized for bonus shirt. Well right to think about the money. He could've law that arguably probably would've won fight of the night if all whistle jet. And personally I thought they should've just about one hundred thousand dollars but that's a whole other thing But the potential fifty K. There and with this. Yeah the Reebok. Money or the promotional guidelines compliance pay but. Wait though how it works how it works this is the description given by the UFC. When I asked about this basically and again there is precedent for it. There's the tears right. There's the one two three fights here. The four to five fights cheer the five ten eleven to fifteen sixteen to twenty twenty one plus and then the title Challenger which is Thirty K which they both got and then the champions pay which is forty so he was not competing at championship fight so I technically for him. He's not on that title Challenger tear anymore so he drops back down to what it would be a regular fight and this was not lie Makeweight so we're going to know guys not on not tear any longer. You're not in title fight. Tear Janney lost thirty percentage. Oh anti-populist bonus and isn't the rule for the next two fights to or something like that or is that only a few guys that are GonNa fuck like that Clinton told us that goes or bonuses. Miss Wait Yeah sometimes you're not like TV shows two or three shows no ally acquitted like like that You know it is. Al Does a lot of things so maybe take it with a grain of salt but I thought something I before giving a real answer. I'd probably want to look into more but I feel you would look back and you'd see some of these people who've missed weight and they've probably got bonuses a few Nobel and then how about we want to keep going. If he's champ he gets pay per views on the next week Yeah you know what she gets. Probably a bump in pay as well. He Gets Forty K. For his first hell defense on the Reebok's promotional guidelines compliance like. There's there's just about one hundred thousand to two hundred thousand dollars just right there from what? We named mistake properly. Let me ask you this. What was your guys? Take on? Just his emotions after the fight because he didn't seem like a guy that lost all the things I think if he was listening to this over a little bit about the time he starts blowing up twenty four hours later. He's starting to hear you talk about it. He's like wait a minute hundred thousand two hundred thousand somebody on his teams getting fired. Well I mean he's gotTa realize it was him. But still maybe a nutritionist. Or something you saw with Joanna. Deg- even think he has a nutritionist. That's the thing old school I asked volleyed during the scrub. And this is again where it's so hard to read into Davidson because I don't speak Portuguese Talking to Idaho gear made cruiser. Ma Fighting put out after the Octagon interview. He wrote a story. Like this is what Davison actually said in the thing and there are some parallels to what volleyed set on the broadcast but there are some things he left out completely and we did a seventeen minute. Scrum backstage with him after the fact and talking to one of the reporters from Globo who was there? He said he's like it was better than in the octagon. But there's a lot of stuff you just like straight up to clean it up or just. I think he's. I think he's doing a massive disservice and this has been an issue. Volleyed is a big part of a history especially in Brazil. He's done a law for that market. Jungle fights all these things they can go on. He is a extremely charismatic personality in our sport but he is not doing. Davison any favors by not accurately representing what he said and we said. I talked about this. Was Jon Morgan colleague. Coming into the height week. I said we're GONNA go there and we're GONNA speak with him on Media Day. We need to tell you see. They need a different translator and they ended up doing not on the Media Day. They brought another guy who according to one of. The Brazilian reporters wasn't all that much better. And volleyed did find his way into the room as well during the scrum and like those kind of chattering. Some things in and saying some things here and there. So it's just a really weird dynamic of what's going on there and it just makes it really hard to know Davidson's true emotions and what he's like you know accurately saying here just to the Lang. There's a language barrier with the US audience one. And then second. You have this translator. Who's not even doing him any favors and sharing. He's actually saying you have Alex Davis who does that for his fighters as well but he wasn't getting official Trans Critical Today on twitter. I saw I saw him. He was going to have a history and another thing. I've heard behind the scenes. Volleyed is ruthless with the athletes in terms of. I don't know man you know like Tim Status. I don't know how much of that money you know. Makes it to to their athletes. Who knows but that's all stuff that I've heard behind the scenes to be fair. I I've never looked at these contracts asks these athletes anything but I've heard it so many times over the past fifteen years. Mike says this guy has been in the sport since the HP days that I feel like I have to at least bring that I love that volleyed volleyed in studio one day point blank. Ask them that these rumors. You know that that's the way is cutthroat manager but anyway All right I did catch when bread. Akimoto was talking. Volleyed Volley When he asked Davidson some question. And I'M GONNA go and try and get it in time for tomorrow spitting back like maybe can discuss. It goes but I remember catching something that kind of you know. Raise the little red flag as Brett is asking this question. Volleyed is kind of tone them something along the lines of like. Don't say anything real quick he just gets it off real quick so then volleyed translates and then Figueredo I think said what he needed to say so almost like he's trained them a little bit. You know what I mean. Who knows but wow what a costly mistake. All the way around now Mike. Tell me something that division is going to go right. This isn't I know that there's probably a percentage ten maybe five or hopefully point one. Oh that the division will continue on. Yeah I think I think the track because in this weird situation I had heard I will not say exactly from who but it seem on the night of the fight. In the immediate aftermath there was powerful. Ufc executives who had brought up the potential rematch of baby. Doing an immediate rematch. Those two yeah Joe Davison. So that's potentially out there because going back to the head. But yeah if if the timing's right in refereed takes a look and sees the Joseph's concussed because they cut they weren't able to get them up by the time they were announcing the winner. Yeah no he was. He was looking for a bit there. They may have been able to call it in context. Yeah Yeah it's tough to say I wouldn't put my faith in anything. We had some weird scorecards on the we had of course if we want to get into. The Mega Mega Ankle live young stoppage. That was its whole other thing like it was. It's been a rough few weeks on the referee. And judging in our sport here going back to you of course the John Jones Donna has all that kind of stuff elder hooker etc etc Main events just can't go off without a little stretch here but yeah to get back to your original question I think if they can make that work potentially but you look at the other guys out there. Like who's really screaming to see Dave so figuring toe and ask our Askerov or something like that you know it's like there's guys out there but I think we're kind of back to the place. Maybe Henry Pseudo does consider coming back down you know. He's making claims he's going to return to fly with on twitter. But you can't really put too much solidarity. Anything ASOS IS. I go relinquish means he has nothing to do with it right. There wasn't one of those. Were the belt comes back to the guy that they had said Immediately after it was declared Davison was not going to be making for this fight That if he wins the belt will remain vacant. So I think if I had to make a guest. I don't think there's GonNa be a long term future here. Maybe they try to run back the title fight. But I don't know how Cofferdam I'm the David six even make one twenty-five even going back to his previous UFC fight. He's been one twenty five point five or one twenty six. He has never made one thousand five on the nose. Never met one twenty four point. Five hundred lineker. Something happened to him. Exactly so volleyed did say during the post fight scrub that. I asked like next time this happened. I asked him point blank. He's never made one twenty five. What would you do differently? And he's like nothing really Mike nutritionist. Having nutritionist family. God How do you go into a world? Championship fight and not having nutritionist is just bogus but yeah. I think so. That's a whole issue. They have to figure out you could potentially do this over and run into the exact same problem again. So do you even encounter that? I could see them. Running out defy wait fights that are already on the schedule already on the books we got one coming up and a couple of weeks between for me and brand Marino and then it could probably come to a point that we're at before T. J. Dillashaw Henry. Suharto where they basically say. Yeah we'll let these fights run will maybe offer some guys that have fights left on their contract but other than that you can either move to one thirty five or go honestly. Don't blame him at this point. I think it's I can't blame them for that. If they're gonNA shut it down like now is the perfect time they can do it. There's nothing holding them back from getting. This thing has been a mess from day. One this division you know the draw miscalculated Dimitrius John McCall draw You know not being able to get. Dj over recall goofing off to the camera. Yeah split-second on his back in the postured up mountain stuff back now. It's just it's just hasn't gone smoothly. That's a hoot. Oh revived it and it had it had a chance and then he gets injured then he has to imagine if Tj dillashaw had won that fight and then there's just so many things that is on life support me. Yeah so like I. I think they'll probably honor the fights. They have signed to these guys. The ones that are already on the books and then they'll make their ultimate decision was exciting right guys. And that's the problem is good so it was a great thing that fight and I and I remember Marino in Kaikoura France. I enjoyed Dow one like the ones that have taken place in the last ten of the last twelve of have been to my liking. I just don't understand. They don't have the bodies is the problem. So you can have a great main event at flyweight but it's not like welterweight where a week later even a month later the next one comes around and it starts to build up what you're waiting for some kind of forty fives not go away more pounds. What's happening here? You know like I think what it was guys is Dimitrius strangled by the throat. The division for the last five seven years however long is run was and he was kind of like vanilla a little bit so dominant and you know like I said I think so who was able to bring it back. I still think it has hope if they run it back. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT. But yeah like what? What guarantees do we have with like? You just pointed out. He's never actually made one twenty five. And then you got a team. That just sounds sloppy over there. It's almost like the team. It's almost like like they blackjack players but they don't know what to do with an eleven against the six you know what I mean they. They're not maximizing their opportunities with their guy and honestly figurados a stud man. But you know the thing is like if he has to go up to one thirty five. He gives off the impression that he doesn't even care. And if you look at his body I don't even think he should. He looks like he fits in perfect. That one looked like I mentioned lineker before he I think he brattle off four straight before he settled into losing some of the top guys. But if you guys have been able to go up. I mean. Look what he did. His timing was right though. You know he didn't have to go through the Gauntlet Wow We could talk about this division forever. But the yeah. Those are the flights that are coming up for me. Go versus Brandon Marino I thought I saw one other. One doesn't Pant Ohio Know Schnell. Yup So he's got a right to it A little bit because even though he lost to Figueredo figure it also lost two for Megan. So everybody's Kinda beaten everybody in a way I wouldn't be too crazy to find out. Look who's healthy. Let's just ride. I was even thinking outside the box. Hey let's eight man tournament but you know the UC's not going to do that I certainly hope this isn't the end of it though Yeah did they say anything about the head and is that the reason they would run it back 'cause interjects because it's in the accidental right. Yeah no one from the said anything but we did ASS Davison slash volleyed at the thing and he claimed that it wasn't the headbutts that split them open. It was the elbow just before which is like. Come on Bro. It's like stop it so again. I just don't know what to make of Davis Figueredo because I don't know anything about what the student actually thinks that I don't know what words being spoken from him. What's being jumbled up? What's half translated with like all these things? So it's really tough. I would love to sit down and talk to that dude with a very healthy independent translator. What did Alex do this? By the way I think he basically was conversation that started up on twitter. I think with Ghirmay crews tweeting. That story being like this he actually said and then some other people chiming in being like this is a problem Alex Sherman people kind of all saying volleyed. Ishmail is Al Horford translator and he should not be put in this position especially on such word. Actually I'd love to see Alex Davis and volleyed right in elevator goes like sixty floors at least sixty floors. All right look the other. I mean look. There was some people that I'm excited about that. Spike Carlisle Guy He's awesome you know there's a few guys out there that you can tell right away whether it's their debut or they're just the way they flow that they're going to do something but I want to concentrate on women's featherweight The top two outside of the champion fought and won Felicia Spencer defeated Zara Foreign to Santos and Megan hand Excuse me Megan Anderson Defeated Normal Dumont Viana. Then they pitched it to Amana Dude as kind of punted back to the obscene said. Who whoever you guys want is fine. I would think Spencer makes sense. 'cause we don't even have to go back a year when she beat me an Anderson and like since then I get it but she lost a Cyborg but she did beat Megan Anderson. Mike is you think she's the front runner at this point. Anything behind the scenes there. I think she has to be Just given all those things I wrote this in my takeaways call. I'm not trying to do this to sound negative at all or anything like that. I think the reality of what we're GonNa see here especially it. Seems like they're going to want the title fight to co headline the C two fifty card with Brazil in Brazil with Fito and although Amanda wants to fight on that card one forty five and I assume they will probably speak to both medicine and Felicia and negotiate with both of them and I would say the person who got it will probably be the person who takes the cheapest deal from the AFC. Oh Wow if we're just being honest that's a situation that's happened before someone can negotiate themselves out of the fight I know. Megan is represented by paradigm who is very bold behind their clients and tries to get the best deal. I mean we almost got this Israel out of Sonya your Maryland coming up because as you was they were not budging on the deal. Ufc wanted to give them so the same people who. I don't think they're just going to let me get walk in there for something. You know some cheap deal and I think she kind of perpetuated that herself. She did not see my she was going crazy over this title fight. When we spoke to her post-flight she actually mentioned that she would be down to fight. Germain Durand me. She'd like to have her come back up to one forty five and if we're going to get rid of a division don't get rid of flyweights give this one. Oh it's funny because really like that situation of just saying yeah you know what all have next like. It's not as dangerous as if you did that. Say at lightweight or welterweight where one little screw up and now. You're back like a year having the weight because of rematches and all that and that division is matter. You know it's just like there's not that many bodies so I think Spencer so one that should get it but I agree Man This is the time to play high-stakes because if you beat a Manda you get the paper views and more than likely they're not GONNA make you headline they'll probably put you on a card that awfully has connor or some other beasts. Were you can reap the benefits of that but has tyron Woodley. About headlining are Being on the same card as connor and if not get paid for their. But who's to say IF AMANDA WERE TO LOSE. I think there'd be money in a rematch or something. But she's thirty five to ten to for sure and I think really the only reason that one forty five is still kicking around post. Cyborg is Amanda just wants this title defence. She wants to go in there and say the only two belts at the same time and defended the both know back and forth simultaneously like that and then I think she just wants to cross that off a resume and then everything goes out the window. Who knows if they keep it around? Who knows if she wants to keep? I would love for all of them to go to. Pf L. and be part of one fifty five not have to put their bodies through you know those additional ten pounds and just in enjoy that. But there's just not enough women at one hundred forty five pounds of sustain division especially when the champ as double duty and all these champ champs. I've had it up to here. That's about a foot over my head with this whole they don't defend both belts enough of that. They don't defend both belts. So that's why we like to see these campaigns. Look at Ryan Bater. He's barely getting around light-heavyweight along it's been guys two years. I think he's going on three. If I'm not mistaken might be too ridiculous you know. Look at what pseudo did. He held up for like six months then he made the decision. It just sucks. I don't mind them going for it but as soon as you win you get thirty days do the media tour and then you let one go and then that's that anyway all right. I think we all agree. Felicia SPENCER NEXT Begin now do you think there is worried about what what happens. I'm not there is value in both those like say. I think we'd all consider Amanda. She'd be a massive betting favorite neither those fights but Felicia or Megan. Winning would be good for the another Canadian champion. No no bias here but in Felicia that would be big for that market if they could get another Australian champion in Megan. That would be huge corn. Big there's some things go see. Canada withstand game more. Yeah but like you have her invoking off st on a car together. There's upsides marketable in Canada. No I don't think anyone knows this. She is seeing so but I think you throw her like Canadians. Are the type that they'll rally around that. You put if she wins that bell and people of course if she were to beat. Amanda Nina as I think the recognition pretty quick for her So we'll see what happens there but yeah I think the could do a good job marketing. Her however they want to do it to make it happen But yeah it's Israel Major. What if I don't imagine it'd be really big uphill climb for either those ladies to dethrone? Amanda Folks Junkie Dot Com. You can go to results and you can see the results of the fights Just to finish the main card and then you can search for prelims on your own. Magomed uncle. I have defeated Yang to Lobo and GRANDPA's and defeated Derek minner Seven thousand and ninety eight souls were in attendance at the chart. Way Arena Norfolk Virginia. Total Gate was four hundred. Two thousand nine hundred fifty eight. The bonuses went to fight of the night Kyle Phillips versus Gabriel Silva Performance of the Night Megan Anderson and Jordan Griffin The I mean I guess anything else guys on this card. Now it's just I just can't get over the fact that two thousand twenty well go every main event yeah about has hats. Mcgregor ones the only one. That's been smooth right. Yeah there's a lot of crazy follow from that as well Alkali. We should bring that up. We'll go a few minutes long. And we have to Goliath young cut. Olloba look man the referees. I try and go to bathroom because I think they have an incredibly difficult job out there. They don't even have the luxury today. I was watching Manchester United and there was a questionable call. That actually benefited us. And that's somebody who's already in a studio with all kinds of different camera angles Who between him and the referee they have they take the time to discuss? And even then the pundits saying now they got it wrong. Here's the letter of the law Blah Blah Blah. These referees have to make split decisions in the middle of a fight. You know that's happening really really quick. I mean it's hand to hand combat. That's taking place. I thought it was McDonald. Right was named Kevin McDonald. I thought his positioning was great from the time that ankle I have. I rocked cuts Kuta logo. A little bit watch him. He did all the mechanics of John. Mccarthy's always told us about. I'm more concerned. He says about the guy that's hurt and he just kept following them as those guys circled and he was watching he was watching him. He just observing them ankle. I have throws kicks and punches and whatever else not all of them were landing but could to love is just giving the feedback of on. Wobbled Australia cording to him. Yeah you know which I dunno possums more like when you kinda retreat and kind of cover up. I'm thinking of Scott Smith. Remember back in the day we lead. You see it a lot more so off of the road exactly you kind of cover up and then also you wind one up and he in fact. I think he won one or two fights. Check out Scott. Smith middleweight. Back in the day Well he was just hurt. Really bad but pete cells and all time classic exactly great but this guy was he looked like he was a little bit wobbly legs and then you know the eyes and on one of them he actually turned his head right towards Kevin McDonald and he just had this glazed. Look and I think that's why McDonald. Who was already trailing. I'm already observing them. He's already thinking. Hey this fight has the potential to be stopped. That's why he jumped in folks because the data that he was getting from logo on those prior shots was one of somebody that was robbed. Now it's easy to say. Yeah once once. The fight was stopped and he reacted and he showed that he was. Okay Yeah Yeah. Don't go shit on a guy who may have just got it wrong. Of course we I think you should have let it go a little bit more. But I don't think he also was careless getting. Yeah it's a tough one again. I think you said it right. He he was the one in the cage he was the one with the closest view of the fighters is at At some point like these guys know what they're signing for going in there like I think we're getting a little a little soft with the stoppages in some ways like that. You know ten years ago fifteen years ago that would be a abomination of a stoppage. And and how often we see the standing stoppages occasionally but it's usually when a guy is up against the fence covering up getting off or something. I can't recall many times where a guy has jumped in for a standing salvage like that in the center of the Cage Open. Space Bright does not happen very mechanics. Were good is obsolete. It's like he missed anything sure but he just saw something there and he. He just went into too quickly but I don't think he was careless. I just think he made a mistake because he jumped into quickly he did. And I think you're right there and I. It's just a tough one again. He was the one in there. But like I said these guys know what they're signing up for this important fight crucified man. It's like all right. Lead them out. Come on put them on. The Cross crucify album. You know. It's like great and the dots for accountability to all came out and say like they have in the NBA. They have a brutal stoppage or nuts. Salvage belt at brutal miscall or something like that they will allow and of course they have like an NBA writers association who worked with the REFS and etcetera etcetera. But they have a pool reporter. Who can speak to the referee? One Guy who represents all the media they'll come in with three or four questions? They'll get task the referees. They'll give their answers and go on. But now there's no accountability. There's no mcdollar we get a few guys big John. Back in the day Mark. Goddard comes out and speaks for himself a lot now. But you don't have. We don't know at McDonalds thinking. Maybe he comes out and he has a perfectly legitimate understandable reasonable explanation of why he stopped fight. And then so be it you can move. Forward is what as but we have no idea. We're all just left here to speculate on what he may or may not have saw what we saw from cage side. What you saw on the TV broadcast. We don't know and it's just left to this big controversy in big debate. We all react the way we do. Because there's so much on the line for these fighters one of those situations puts you back sometimes depending on your division it can put you back as far as maybe two years possible cut. Yeah depending on what? Your situation is The the domino's was shaping up to be fight of the night like that was a crazy thirty seconds we had there so it sure was I don't know I guess they can run it back whatever All right listen We'll be right back with a news nugget. So we really ain't gonNA take up too much more time in your life. Straight should've just ended the show. But I really liked this fight. Alexander Hernandez is going to be fighting at UC to forty nine. His opponent will be Islam. Maka AF- these are lightweights. I think it's a quality match up. I think the pay per views have not been as deep and a stack as the way we ended two thousand nineteen so the fact that to forty eight is a step up from two forty seven and two forty nine appears to be a step up from two forty eight Liking it. I'm really hoping that what's the beat said was true that he'll also be at UC to forty nine and the only one that seems to be left out. Is Brian Ortega? Now you got yourself a main a pay per view in Brooklyn New York. You know what I mean. It's not I don't think so. We'll see what is on now. I I'll speak as freely as I can here but I think they still WanNa do that. Ortega Korean Zombie fight. I take out there. He was hoping for top five guy though and process of elimination. I think that's always left Gauging that's a different way. Oh sorry I think and I I would say this is premature at this point. Not Not even close to finalize by. I HEARD YEAR. Rodriguez name tossed around. And that's a fight of course with that and that's the one I think we all WanNa see. We were supposed to have that. Those guys have had their back and forth Again quite premature. So no one. You know quote Mayor Report anything specific on this but that's the fight to me get the rankings. Looking at WHO's available. That makes the most sense for forty five. I be into that one man I would be into that one. All right. We're going to get on. Outta here was plug our Social Media Mike Bonomi across all platforms. Mike Yes sir. All right and What what's going on next after Vegas? What's the next of covering still rolling stone sharing their? They've dialed back a lot on their sports coverage. In general they can't have since they were purchased by a new company. I think about like eighteen months the other trying to focus on the rolling stone. 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On To The Next One: Episode 1 | Matches to Make Following UFC on ESPN 13, UFC Fight Island 2

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On To The Next One: Episode 1 | Matches to Make Following UFC on ESPN 13, UFC Fight Island 2

"You're listening to the box. Media podcast network. All. Right, Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the debut episode of onto the next one the podcast here on May, fighting DOT com. Thanks for checking us out wherever you find your favorite podcasts I. Am I? Hope you guys all had a great week. We three UFC events over an eight day span. UFC, two fifty one. You have espn thirteen and then Saturday nights you have see fight island to events, and before I, introduce my tag team partner in this venture. Allow me to briefly explain what this is why it is happening so since you have see to forty nine. We've been doing a matchmaker. Call them on the site following UFC events. It was called. Aptly titled onto the next one, and it's become a pretty popular segment on the site, and after you have C two fifty one. We got together with the powers that be came up with the concept of taking that matchmaker column and doing a podcast, so that's what we're doing so nice and simple, easy ready to go and joining me in this discussion each and every week is the one the only Alex Kaley Aka exciting stuff here the. And, the AK back at it doing the damn thing. How are you Sir Oh? Wait each each and every week thought this was like once every three months or something hold on, hold on. I got to look at my contract I gotta look for I. Signed On for these things, I just kind of nod, my head, and just respond to whatever is going on in our company chat and but I guess I'm here and I'm happy to be here this week. Certainly and I'll be happy to be here in the future now that I know what's going on But yeah, as you said man, three shows eight, but you know the shows are pretty good. It kind of I think so I've seen a bunch of we'll say and there's just kind of how time is moving these days, but like that Wednesday card feels like it was two weeks ago or a month ago, just days ago, but again that's kind of the quality. How the quality fights band the story lines coming out with some of these cards again, which many several of which we'll discuss today so Yeah, I'm I'm I'm happy I may. May Fan and I imagine. Quite a few people are right now. Yeah, we don't have a break from UFC action for a long long time, so we have lots of matches to make over the next several weeks for this particular show not only will be taking a look back at some of the potential match-ups, coming out of Saturday's event, but as ak sort of alluded to Ross going to take a look at Wednesday night's card as well. which was you have see on ESPN thirteen. That's what we're going to begin today the main event of that card. Was a fun competitive matchup between Calvin Cater and Gay Cato was able to get the victory unanimous decision, so let's start with the Boston finisher caters been red hot since you have see to forty nine that finish of Jeremy Stevens. He takes this fight with E. and a headliner spot. A guy ranked four spots below him at the time. A Guy Danny Kaye who's coming in on a six fight winning streak? It was a very risky fight for Calvin cater, but you have see did reward him with the main event and a new deal to boot cater gets done, and now he's in a very interesting position in a very interesting division with Alexander. Volkov is the champion. Champion, we still don't have a clear cut number one contender for the title right now so Alex. what's next for an important piece of the new? England, cartel, Mike I, am someone anticipating which you will say so? I am already prepared to sort of counter that I don't think anyone would complain if if it was announced at some point in the next couple of months that cater was the next contender for the featherweight title, but there's a lot of certainly more recognizable names ahead of him nestle more qualified. CARE has a solid resume one hundred forty five pounds anyone so if we're not going to give him the I think the reasonable thing to do. would be to have him face the winner of a rumor, but not official yet year Rodriguez, versus as a beat Magomed share that's targeted for August twenty ninth. We'll see we'll see that becomes official. I'm sure some people will why Ortega Korean Zombie I'm on the record saying I want I want to fight ski now. so I'd be happy with him. Skipping the Arteta, I know it's really cool. Grudge match and a dream play for a lot of people, but it's also not official yet it'd be fine I. Really WanNa. See that style match up. Of the Korean Zombie Jong and Alexander Volkov, because a lot of people are saying announces appoint fighter which I don't agree with. He certainly wouldn't be able to be one against Zombie I. Don't think so anyway, so for me. I'm saying for cater. A Year Rodriguez, beat my magomed share pop. Maybe get a kid that revenge against as For me I'm going to say the one name in this discussion. That wasn't set at all I think. The Max Holloway fight is the one to make because Holloway. How you've scored the last two fights. He's lost his last two. He's last three out of his last four, controversial judging or not I have a hard time believing that they're going to run that Volkan off ski fight back a third time, at least not in the foreseeable future, and when you got guys like you said with Korean Zombie Brian Arteta, which I actually think that should be the fight that's booked because we don't have a clear cut guy. then. You've got sabido ear. There's only one guy left. So cater has has done the UFC many a favor over the last year and hasn't asked for much return. I mean getting the new deal comes with getting a made of and fight, so it's not like. It's nothing new there, but it's time for Calvin. Cater, and fans of the to see how good this guy really is like. Is he a guy that can fight for the belt right now, or is he just an exciting guy? That's going to be fighting top ten fighters for the next couple of years. If you beat Max Holloway, we have our answer if he's competitive with Max Holloway, we still sort of have our answer, but a maximum away goes out there and just. Fifty five. Then we kind of have our answer for that to me. Is the fight to make but on the flip side. I'm saying I don't think cater would say no to that, either. Even though Holloway, technically on a two fight losing streak cater would love to fight of because I think I would say the biggest name on his resume is Jeremy Stevens as far as recognition I'm not a quality. As maybe his opponent, but. Yes Stevens and holidays a big step up from that, so he definitely wouldn't say no I think to a hallway matchup if it were proposed. Oh absolutely, and then we have Danny Kaye on the flip side who made a pretty good showing of himself on Wednesday competitive with cater, but in the end Gavin was just the bigger and more complete fighter at the end of the day and I. Know There's a lot of people who are out there in twitter land who are suggesting that Danny Gay. Gay dropped one hundred thirty five pounds, and if that's he wants to do great i. actually don't think he's ever fought at one thirty five at least professionally. He's twenty eight years old Silla promising guy about to reach athletic. Prime so to me Aka I. Think Danny gave her Shane Burgos sounds like a hell of a good time to me that works for me. Both guys coming off losses against top ten guys look in a bounce back. That makes way too much sense. What say you? Yeah. That was my number. One name for sure style wise to good matchup exciting fight. Both guys fought within the same again that burgos buying now feels like three months ago, but that was just been what last month I guess last month. And feels like so long now. Everything you know, but yeah, first name that came to my head. Neither guy like a big know again just coming off a loss in both in tough fights right so they still have very very very credible resumes, and yeah, it would just be an entertaining one to watch I'll throw it another name just for the sake of it. Cub Swanson I know he's dealing with an injury. But, that's been a while now, and he's probably being being very picky with his fights at this stage of his career as well, but that's another fun. What I'd like to see kind of like what we said for. Cater a good name, a good name that I'm sure you would be would wanNA test himself against Barbosa was a good name to. So I'm sure he wants to stay in that top fifteen top twenty, and I'd also like to see how much cup Swanson has left as far as again being near the top of the ranking top fifteen in the rankings. Not Waiting for title anytime soon, but he's still Fr- fan, friendly guy and someone who has has the reputation, yeah. That's a good up as well and then we go to the feature the KOMEDA that actually Tim Elliott gets a decision. Win Over I'm annoyed. I did not score for Tim Elliott just laying on my cards on the table, but I'm certainly not up in arms about it and Elliott is such an exciting fighter Alex Winter. Lose, so there's really no wrong answer here, my opinion, so, what would you like to see next for the awkward one coming out of Wednesday night's event? He's such a weird book because people just look at his. Record and say Oh, five nine like. Why is this guy even still with the? You know when he and it's not like. He has huge win over a top contender, but thing is any time he's been in a fight with A. Name or top contender. He's always in it. I mean he's he's so competitive. His grappling is just we all time. When talking about two million, his grappling and his scrambles are just almost second to none he so unpredictable, and on any given night any given round. He looks like a guy who is a world title contender, so you can understand why he keeps sticking around I'm going way outside the box talking about awkward. I kind of and I won't touch upon this more later I. Guess when we talk about. Saturday's car I kinda of want to see him. Fight Joseph Bene- Evita. Now him and Ben Evita's our friends. Benefit is I. Think was his coach on the ultimate fighter, and they fought before and benefit is beat him. So there's a history there, but Elliot's said on more than one occasion that again. Yeah, they're friends, but they would want he wanted to. He thought. Would beat Figueredo at some point, and they would get to fight for a world title. Obviously, that's not going to happen anytime soon, but it's something that would be a cool. A bucket listing for both guys to to fight it have a respectful fight. And also Ben. Evita's said after losing on Saturday that he wants to. He still wants to fight until he gets a win. So I think it would be real honor for for Tim. Elliott, not to do the job for him like professional wrestling, but to potentially be his last his friends last opponent and I think it's a very wind will fight for benefit as well again. He already beat, but I think it'd be very. Very classy fight, so I'm going to wait outside the box and saying hey, maybe we see benefit doesn't Elliott, though I'll say something different later. It'll make sense when I. I, mean I like the idea like you said. There's no wrong answer here, but if we're going by meritocracy, and why would we do that? I guess I won't think outside of the box too much, but I'd say maybe the winner of Jordan Espinosa versus David Davar AC with fight happening c two fifty, three. I mean I'm good with that one Tyson fight. Fight Match Nelson. Maybe the winner that fight again when you have a guy like like Tim Elliott. Who is just so exciting? There is no wrong answer to this question. In the featured out of that card. We saw Jimmy. Rivera return after a year away picks up a much needed. Win Over Cody statement and to me this all this is kind of A. A tough one because it all depends on wind jim when Jimmy Rivera. Come back and fight again like if you want to come back quick. Maybe you do like a song. You Don or something like that, but if he's willing to wait a little bit, say November December. Ish I think a fight with rob. Van Is the one to make rob is hoping. Hoping to get back around that time, he's coming off that injuries off some surgery on his knee for the rookie. Simone fight both guys on full camps, two guys in the top ten that works for me, so it all depends on how quickly Jimmy wants to come back, but if he doesn't wanNA come back to like the end of the year I think. To make, what do you think? I'll throw it a somewhat obvious. Dame's again. This guy fought on Saturday one John's You know he's coming up their style. Wise, it definitely be a little funky kind of a stripper scrambler thing though there are various pretty I still, but definitely on paper striker's grappler. But the real intriguing name I would want for Jimmy is I'm actually really doing this for doing this rally to clear the path for all Joe, so there's no shenanigans. Jimmy Rivera Cody Garbrandt. For some reason in my mind thought this had been booked before, or at least in talks or maybe there some trash come on I'm not sure called out a lot of people. So I think that'd be a good style matchup I think cody still needs another wind for he gets a title shot I've really do not want to see him. Jump the line. And I liked cody, Garbrandt I say this because he should have the chance to build his name back as opposed to keep getting thrown to these very very tough title fights over and over again for a guy who's still so young and his career but has had so many ups and downs. It's really difficult, so I think Rivera's fight for him and vice versa I think we're. Barry could really make his name off of Garbrandt with a win so I kind of would favor a cody garbrandt matchup. Really just again, so we don't hear anything anymore of this Garbrandt Yawn Talk. Give out Hashtag giving the title shot, please. I WANNA. See Government and they're either. If you're GONNA, give Garbrandt somebody up there give them a riotous, I think. Mariah recently said that he agreed to fight cody and in October or something like that, so I would be cool for that, but I think Rivera. Out For a while, it wasn't like the the greatest victory of his career over cody statement. It was good. Win especially on such short notice, but I think we build Rivera back a little bit slowly one even if you do song I'm cool with that as well and a little wrinkle. We're going to put into this podcast Achey. Ak is we're going to do for all these events. We're GONNA match make. As you've just heard that the higher up fights from these cards plus we're going to have a wildcard pick from the fights that we don't really mention her or give a lot of time to AK. You're going to give the first wildcard pick in the history of the show. So, what is your match making selection to put a bow on UFC on ESPN. ESPN, thirteen to notes, my first choice would have been comes out to my, but he booked himself a fight ten days he's. He's fighting this weekend after fighting on Wednesday dominant performance against John Phillips where he was barely touched so understandable I guess but holy crap. This guy's in hurry so concentra. My is out of the question now he is fighting. This. Saturday against McKee from Cage Warriors, so that's pretty nuts, and then my other off Laurent Murphy because I think this is a guy who we keep sleeping on. and. He's been very competitive ways of bar he just. Kara, Hommos is really really good. And now as a one one draw and the ABC's, but my pick actually would be another cage. Warriors, Guy Modestus Modesto Mukasey. Who? was expected to dominate in his debut, basing short-notice Guy and Andrea Smick Mellitus and certainly did dominate. There's been a lot of buzz around this guy for awhile. He's a light heavyweight division in need of fresh blood, big finisher and I'm gonNA throw it since sticking with the wildcard team out of wild name. Whenever this come back, go con sake. Oh, GO CON! Sake I. think that's a good name for for us to get a win off of I. Don't know how good's sake as this point his career again. We know historically striker but I think that'd be really a really cool just to cool match up on paper. Yeah, I would agree with Adnan I think it'd be a good name Medecin if he could be Gokhan Saki. who him up a little bit boost to stock up, but For me I feel like the theme at least for these vital events coming out of them should be. Let's keep this train moving a little bit of. We talked about this on the post. Fight. Show on on Saturday night. We're seeing some of these newcomers. Step up and make names for themselves and their debuts of which. On Wednesday night was was muneer. says. I should probably get to learn his name a little bit more, but my wildcard picking. There's no need for any kind of explanation because it doesn't warrant one because it's so much fun you do. Versus Nico Price Let's Go Away K.. Let's go. That's the fight to bake and I. Just that welterweight business just keeps adding exciting guys. It's like every other. I mean all the more. You know everything under feel it's welterweight. That keeps adding these exciting strikers specifically. What what division and Yeah, what a win over Assad. A good one big win. No, not a lot of people expected it. He's got a chin on them to be an exciting for him, and you can throw bombs and. We'll see what happens there. I love that fight but Let's let's take a look at Saturday. Night's event in the main event Davis figure it. Oh, became the UFC flyweight champion. Completely dominant performance puts Joseph Ben Evita's to sleep via rear naked choke after dropping him time in that in that first round. This guy is a monster, and he is a tough for anybody at one twenty five. Also, he had a very short night, so his first title defense could come rather quickly here. So what do you think should be that I highly fence for the new? Champion Again I think the right thing to do would be Alex Perez. It's really unfortunate that Peres is much like every other flyway contender of the past just isn't. Properly. I think his last win over juicy for Meka I. Think was the curtain. Jerker was oh no, it was okay. I'm just looking up their. Fight yet right from on the early prelims, so not not buried, but he's he's one of those guys. He's an exciting fighter. He's a rising contender. Featuring this guy more. And we said this I think we sentiment Alexandra Pantoja who fought on Saturday. So the right thing to do would be says. I'm suddenly leading a little more towards Askar Askerov that win over Pantoja I thought was so impressive. He's now to one I believe in the UFC of C. so I think he's undefeated here. That trial with the assassin baby, Brandon Marino and just from a skill set perspective. You've seen him. You've seen him sort of like how I isn't. What a great opponent he would be! I mean look. He has even less named out prize I. Get that at this point, but I think I'd like to be built up a little more I guess what I'm saying and then have Askerov kind of hot shot at to the bell, just as just a seat just to see what he has. Some contradict myself a little bit, but. And again recently biased, we just saw escrow fight. So that's that's a huge part of it so i! I'll lean towards Ashcroft for now. I'm going to go with Peres and look I think Merano is probably one. Be In this discussion right now and ask her off. Certainly has has a claim for it but I think he's a guy that I would like to see him them build a little bit more, but if they gave it to Marino, I'm all for it because I think Brandon, Marino is going to be a champion at some point, I think ask her off actually needs another win, so he could fight the odd man out, but this is. A what if what have you done for me lately? Kind of Sport Aka we talk about this all the time both Marine Perez fought the same guy in their most recent fights both guys defeated juicer Meka. Peres actually finished the fight in the first round and marina got the decision, so Gimme Peres challenging for the title, and then you can run back. Marino versus ask off since they fought to a draw, even though I for sure thought, Marino on that fight, and I thought he got hoes big time but I think you run that one back. Winner fights the winner of the title fight, and we have our next few months in the flyweight division SORTA laid out. For Joseph Vitas. He was obviously heartbroken after the loss, but as you said earlier, he's not done yet. He doesn't want to go out like that and I think he needs. As you sort of talked about Tim Elliott. Matchup up to take a step back. Take some time so my pick for Joseph vitas, AK! Bellavia does against the winner of Rosero bonds and Manila Cape at UFC two. You Got Bonsor in number nine. CAPE WINS Scott. The resume former champion with Reisen. He's immediately a top ten guy, and he becomes somebody like a like a year per hash that we don't need to slow. Roll him at all. We can just. Put them in a sink or swim type opportunity. So that's my pick especially, if Cape Wins Game that big step up and see where he's at. Mike. You just saw. Joseph. Evita's knocks down. I would estimate like it. Twenty Times in one round. You Really WanNa throw him in there with those heavy hands of Anelka that. Is is a killer. And I. Look Joe's have been beat as a grown ass. Man All right. We don't need to protect him. He's he's not the Kinda Guy. That's GONNA. Ask for an easy fight in and what could potentially be his last night? I understand that, but you know obviously I suggested earlier because Elliott grappler. I wouldn't expect them to have quite de concussive force as David, Figueredo as we saw in that title fight. But, my other option would be again this an easy thing to do because they find the same card. upenn tells Ya you know. Theoretically coming off losses of different weight, but certainly coming off losses, another guy that he had somewhat of an interaction with on on the ultimate fighter, Penn tells us with team pseudo, not not team up to as but there's. Just a touch of history there and again I think it'd be competitive a a good step up for Pantoja I. think he needs to rebound from Ashcroft performance. It wasn't bad by any means, but. he was, he was certainly outclassed so I would like to see what he has just been Evita's. If so, if we're going to give us another tough fight next for working, potentially be his last fight, so to summarize I. Think I think Ben Evita as is right for Elliott's, but I don't necessarily think Elliott is right for beat. I think Pantoja would be a good fight for benefits, but again you mix those names together, and you'll come up with something good. One twenty five and you're and you're talking guys like Bellavia as there's really no wrong answer, so it just depends what you want to do with them. If you want to try to potentially build up another contender, you could do that, but that's very difficult to do against the guy like Ben Evita's so. There you have it. Komen Event Jack Hermansson submits Calvin. Gas Some a little over a minute SP- beautifully done. Jack said sort of laid out the way he wants to do this all. Of Whitaker Mike. I disagree with them Ak he wants he wants to winter whitaker versus till, and that makes a Lotta sense with cannon air, being there and. Of and you're getting ready to fight Paulo Kosta, but if Darren goes in there next weekend in steamrolls. Robert Whitaker, which is not easy to do, but if he goes out there and finishes Robert. Whitaker all bets are off till is white hot. His Social Media Game is unbelievable. I think he, he jumps cannon. Aaron the Q. as well. If you finish his Robert Whittaker, so it depends solely on how that fight plays out, and if that does happen Darin till finishes, Robert Whitaker. You could still do Hermansson versus whitaker, but that's at what do you think? So I'm so sorry. So you think that he doesn't get the winner till whatever you think, if till wins than her just might be out of the equation. I think for now for it. All depends on what happens. If until decision then. Yes, that's a fight to make. If Whitaker wins the decision. Yeah, that's a fight to make, but if till goes out there and smashes rival whitaker and finishes them in the first or second round tells getting the next title shot. I'm also I'm also going to disagree with her. If only because guess what joker, it's not easy to do our jobs okay I. Know you think Oh, I can just do it post. After after beating top five middleweight in the world, you can just go out there and do a live interview and do this incredible bit of matchmaking. Right on the spot. No, it doesn't work that way of course a lot of research. It takes a lot of time to do what we do. We're in the lab or mixing up next up matches. So. Someone on twitter said to us Mike like. Twenty seconds. How long it's GonNa take you guys to do that and I'm just like. Oh smart asses on on the Internet yourself. I'm sorry, yes. In fairness, he is right. I do like the idea of him facing the till Whitaker winner, and then and then he even said Oh jerk ahead of me, so can near would face the Edison Costa winner, and then he would face the Disney Costa winner who he expects to be Costa. He said he thinks Paulo Costa will will defeat Israel at Disney. So that was an interesting part of his post. Fight comments, but Yeah if not that like you said you know. We have this matchup with Edmund Shabazz Ian and Derek Brunson coming up on August first and certainly the winner of that match up would be a good next opponent for her. I agree yet. Another potential breakout guy in in Raphael Physi-, tremendous in his fight of the night, went over Marchuk, AC the defense, the offense, the whole nine, he was absolutely outstanding, and he's in line for a step up in competition. So, what do you do with him? After that great performance on Saturday? The Guy. He put on the Qatar performance that like your. It makes your imagination run wild the potential matchups. We talked a little bit last night on the preview show, and this is the first thing that came to mind, and it's kind of stuck with me now I do I would like to see physio and Comma Worthy I. think that'd be really fun matchup. I I'm not sure if commas striking is on the level of a Physio, but again that's why I'd WanNa put them in there and find out because commas, super exciting prospect and Matched up with with a more experienced kick, boxer kickboxer. There's a lot of fun options for that Guy and Casey. We usually when we look at the U. OF C., rank joins the fifteen guys but I would. I would have put Casey probably top twenty, five top thirty guy at one hundred fifty five pounds i. think that's fair, so here's his next fight should be in that top twenty to twenty five range, so I would go with maybe a fight with bobby green because. Because that would just be a blast to watch, or if you want to testament in a different way kind of like what you did, what you Casey when he was running off his wins early on his career, match them up with a guy like Derek Carr close because I think that sounds like a good test. Your car can bang. You saw that fight with. Dare used cars not afraid to throw leather, but he was even the in the wrestling department to to see where he stands there. So either of those guys make sense for me, but I don't really care. I. Just want to see Physique. Fight anybody. Our own, our own Jose had also had very strong suggestion, landover Nada so Jose and I just want to see him. Just do more striking Mike. You actually want to see him tested as a prospect which like whatever but. No we just want see Jose and I just WanNa see more fun matrix moves. Yeah, I still think we'll see them either way, but. Finally AK the wildcard selection from this card featuring one of the combatants that we did not mention from Saturday night's event. Well I mean the first thing that came to my mind had to be Lipsky that that. Was Disgusting. And hopefully we'll be you know edited out a future replays because it was absolutely not not for children to watch, but she look incredible. She came into the with a lot of buzz, and then face some very tough competition so that, but we know how. Those spoon that buzz goes away, and it's not like she lost super exciting decisions. It was like they were competitive fights, but not particularly memorable, so she really needed something she won. She beat Bella to Padua, which was again a solid performance, but not quite what people were expecting from the the the virus queen, and they should they set new borrow against last night against Gosh I try against dread. Her name is escaping me at the moment. Caroliina thank you and. And it has reputation back, so I wanna see her fight another sorta young fighter on the rise Sabina Mabaso. Mellow Bay Champion I. Like that could be boring upwards and go like Montana Dolorosa. Jillian Robertson, but now let's go with another up and comer. Someone who had think's going to going to help her put on a potential flight and their performance to be a Mizo. Let's let it rip. I think for me. One of the you have to agree with this. They everybody has one of the biggest stars. Come out of that event, if not the biggest star was Armand Sarokin everyone singing, his praises the route that great performance against Dhabi. Hommos and I'm not ready to shoot him into the top fifteen. Jess yet. Although people are clamoring for it, he's very close. I say A and I don't know if you're going to like this or not, but I say we give him another step up against another widely veteran who is bred for these types of situations, a man who loves to derail height trains right in their tracks. You're shaking your head, but I don't care if they can't see me shaking my head right now because I know, it's coming my wildcard pick Armand, Sarokin. Versus. Jim frigging Miller and I. Wanted Miller versus Alexander. Hernandez forget that now I. Want Miller against this twenty-three-year-old Fina on. It's a win. Win Because Miller so popular. If he loses, he gets that MAS it all. He's a g for taking this rub and if he wins, this guy is a prospect killing man beast Sarokin either way is GonNa gain so much experience from that fight whether he wins or whether he loses I want that fight shot right into my veins Aka. If people heard that noise that was me shifting uncomfortably in my seat at that suggestion. Well I I thought you were going to say cabalists Aronie. Talk! To say but I'm almost more disturbed by. This is three UFC, fights versus thirty. Five UFC fight all, but it was cool for Roosevelt Robert. Safai Jim Miller I think he had one extra fight I did not say I approved of such matchmaking either yeah. Yes certainly on, you know now now that you've spoken to into existence, I am intrigued I will not lie. A stylus, a very good fight. And I think a very winnable fight for CERRUTI and if I'm being honest I think there's there's lettuce isn't gap there and I think his wrestling is at such a high level that man I I can. I can see him being competitive with almost any one of division at this point. That's how that's. How High I think we are off of that. Win on Saturday night, so. I'm not against it. I'm just I'm just didn't see it coming. That's everyone if I was rendered speechless, and and just rocked there by Mike. Just I just didn't see a color. That's why it's called the wild card so. The inaugural edition of onto. Onto next on the podcast episode one is in the books. AK Any final thoughts before we. We say goodbye here. I don't have any final thoughts. After that old matchmaking decision by Mike Watch Watch watch. Watch what the heck later this week I guess. If you want more of that, you want more that solves. Watch what the heck leave this week in tune in every week of that show because it's too much for me, I'll tell you that much you go, and we got between the links coming up to Aka your first title defense which I just thought of two seconds ago. Too much. Yes got to recover for tomorrow I. Don't even have an opponent for yet. So I have to go scour the landscapes media to try to find you a challenger, but as far as the show goes. It's going to happen every week on this network. It's podcast only so subscribe to wherever you're listening to this here page and you'll get to hear it on the site page where it's located as well I want you leave your thoughts and comments hit us up on. The twitter AK is at Alexander Kelly, I'm. I'm Mike Underscore Jr and we are out of here. Have a wonderful week. Stick with us for coverage for this Saturday nights event. What a car that has fifteen fights headlines by Robert, whitaker versus Darren till and one heck of a main event for Alex Kelly i. m Mike CAC and listen. We are just a couple of fantasy matchmakers, trying to make dreams come true for fight fans around the world. We'll see you next week right here on onto the next one. The podcast. You're listening to Fox media. PODCAST network.

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UFC Fight Island 2 Preview Show

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

15:59 min | 2 months ago

UFC Fight Island 2 Preview Show

"You're listening to medium long as an. IRA at a short reprieve from UFC action. In fact, it'll be a whopping three days between events in Abu Dhabi, but the promotion trip to Fight Island continues tomorrow night with the fight for the vacant. Flyweight title taking that elusive main event spot. What's going on everybody? Welcome to the UFC, fight island to preview show here on finding dot com I'm Mike Heck being joined by the Great Alex Kaley Ak main event tomorrow night is the rematch one hundred and five ponds strap? Davis Figueredo versus Joseph Ben Evita's. They're gonNA. Throw fisticuffs once again and the big question heading into this fight ak it became even more prevalent over the last week, or so is would. Would days and figuring out Oh make the weight he did. Make it for the fight. In February this time. He had even more hurdles to leap over with false positive cove in nineteen tests a delayed arrival to Abu Dhabi, but he did make the weight hundred and twenty five pounds on the. No, so let me ask you, AK, how do you feel? He looked on the scale. Did he seem like he was in a good place in your opinion? I thought he looked pretty good. I saw some comments saying he looked a little bit drawn out. I didn't think so I think he looked fit. Maybe not as as muscular and failed out as people would hope, but who knows maybe between February. And now that's a long time. He may have made some actual substantial changes to his diet to his physique to just make that cut a little bit easier because he is a big, he is a bigger one fiber so if he had to actually like slim down. That's a good thing I I I know. People might be a little concerned, but we've seen how sometimes people look on weigh in day, and then you know within twenty four hours when wants to every hydrated and back up, and they look fine, so I wasn't concerned about how he looked good. I'm just glad he made one twenty five. I fight was a lot of fun for as long as the last I assume this one will be no different, but in the end Dave's have figure out what that power that he possesses put Joseph Ben Obidos away in the second round, and despite the finish it was certainly a competitive fight. There was a headbutt mixed in there as well so a lot of bizarre circumstances, throat the bill to the first matchup, and in the fight itself so for Vitas. What adjustments are you looking for him to make tomorrow night to be a little more successful than he was back in February? I don't know there's a lot he needs to do. Because again it's it's not like a rose. Navas Eunice just gone. Try Situation. Where like Benedetto's winning the fine. If it wasn't for the head, it was a very even fight. A Figueredo certainly could've could've taken even without without the head, but that happened so I'm not sure how many he really needs to make I think so much of it for beat. At this point in his career is mental is just getting over that Hump businesses fourth. Shot at the at the at the flyweight title I'm doing. My math correctly shot flyweight title so. In his head. He has to block any thoughts of like. You know intangible things like Jinx's which I don't believe in. A professional athlete. It's hard not to think about all those times you came close. And why? Why do these things happen? Why did the Guy Miss Wait? Why did the head but happen? You know and it was neither guys. Fault is the definition of an accidental headbutt so. It really just a mental thing technique wise. I'm getting I'm not gonNA offer any advice. On how to handle the situation, he knows how powerful Figueredo is. How popular was before that I and you know? He got caught the head and then caught by by a beat as a hand so. Yeah really just mental adjustments and We'll see very difficult to predict. Yeah I thought Vitas at least early on that first round. He's very technically sound. He was scoring and then figure out was able to turn it into a little bit more of a firefight. At least that's that's what I saw. And that's when things sort of the change momentum because Ben Evita's. You put them in that kind of situation. He loves that he'll dive right into it, but that ended up. causing him to fight in a lot of people's opinions, so figuring Eto. Is IT SORTA the same game plan for him to try to turn it into a brawl and and try to get Bene- Evita's to bite on that a little bit. Yeah, I mean. Look. Confidence is through the roof. As far as he's concerned, he's the uncrowned champion. He has even better beat. Let's not forget for years was one of the probably one of the best finishers at one twenty five. It's still I shouldn't say was four division where a lot of people say oh, all the plates go to decisions. Some guys don't have any real power. Power better beats has always had power, and we know Figueredo has power so yeah for Figueredo, but he's not afraid of it. He wasn't afraid of it the first fight. He's not GonNa be pretty, but now he knows in his head that he can finish. He can finish better bts so he'll be looking to keep it a scrap and I don't know. Benedetto is GonNa care to just maybe he thinks like I said if it wasn't for that. Just a couple of bad breaks that he would have gotten the better of those exchanges, so yeah I. do think we'll see a fight similar to the I I'M GONNA ask. You. Now I have expected to decision this time. I don't know if we'll see a finished, but I'm kind of waffling. Who I think will win. Yeah it's an interesting matchup. Because Ben Evita's has said multiple times now and I. Think everyone would agree with this is that he feels like this is his last chance to become a UFC world champion. He seems to be the sentimental favourite heading in to this fight tomorrow night, Co main event in the Middleweight Division, another fund one that has flown under the radar much like this entire card Ak Calvin gasoline taken on Jack Hermansson both guys looking to get back on track here for a Cohen event. You can't ask for much more than this fight. What do you think of this pivotal match, but one hundred eighty five pounds? Oh it's so good. It's so good. We'll be saying there's a lot about a Lotta this card when you look at it up and down both in the quality of like the quality of the mashups style wise, and also like you said where the people are at their careers like I don't see you just take a glance. I don't see any real mismatch is there might be names that are more familiar to fans than others, but if you if you actually look at the results of these guys have been doing. It's like yeah, this is this is a really Saad well-built. Especially this event, 'cause Hermansson again. Again. There's that setback to against jared cannon year, no shame in that candy, of course top top three contender right now, so Hermansson, far from getting back there and gasoline I know people will say always losses last to one of those includes a title fight. So you know anytime, you include that in a losing streak a little. It's a little dubious, but Darren telephone very competitive so What's great is how much is on the line here and a against style? Wise, really good. We know both guys can go the distance and we know both guys can finish so. Hard to predict, but man really really looking forward to it. Like you, said both guys, especially with the landscape of this division right now they need a win here pretty badly to stay in contention somewhat at least right now at one hundred eighty five pounds, and like you said gasoline has lost two straight one of which was that fight of the year contender against Israel out of Sonya in that interim title fight. Would you say that you know at least looking at it on paper that the lion share of the pressure is on Calvin gasoline tomorrow night as opposed to Jack this pressure and all fights, but I feel like in this one. Gasol needs a win much more than Hermansson does. He definitely has more pressure I don't think it's like a make or break thing for him as far as like. Is this his last chance to prove? He's a contender. Calvin is only I'm just looking at Calvin is only twenty eight years old, so he's in the prime of his career he he's got quite a bit of mileage on them, and he's very familiar with the fan so i. I know it's very easy to save. He doesn't win here. They'll. All of that said he's just a gatekeeper, but we've seen stranger turnarounds again. Addition you know that's the champ listening him. That's a rematch. People still want to see very competitive fight Darren till really making a big impact when he will see him later this month of course, but Gasol began twenty eight years old in his prime. All needs is one or two big wins to get back in it. This could be one of them. But even if he doesn't get past Hermansson, I still think there's a lot of miles an him I don't think you know. He's always said he wants to go back to one seventy. I feel like it has to be impossible now. And I hope that if he loses, people don't say he should reconsider a drop back down because I think one eighty five really is his home. And again, even if three straight losses happen, it's it's. He's not that far off from from getting back into it so more pressure on him, but not like all the pressure in the world or anything like that. I would agree with that other notable matchups on this card. Oh, by the way. Do you have a prediction for this one I don't want to give away your whole entire prediction article. You are the prediction guru fresh fighting after all. But who do you like in this one? I like. Gasoline but this is kind of a weird topic for me because I feel like skill wise. I kind of like her masks, a little more actually but. And I'd like it even more if it was like a main event. If there's a five on main event deputy, favorite guests slum, I think everyone loves. This guy has an endless gas tank. Go Twenty five minutes easily. I hear. Madsen is fine, too, but I don't know if anyone can quite keep up that pace. With gasoline for five rounds, but I do like him to to push things here I. do think there's a little bit of that sense of desperation that's going to push them Push him where he needs to go. I'm leaning towards gasoline by decision are reserved the right. Change your mind by by tomorrow morning, but for now yeah I'm saying gasoline. I think Hermansson gets us one done. I think he has the style to really frustrate gasol and gasoline so many different looks different opponents in different styles over the years but Hermansson. Has that frustrating style where he could just chip away you for fifteen minutes so I think he ends up getting decision here, but like you said gasoline has that fight changing power that can turn tides very quickly, so we gotta keep our nap, but this car is really good, because you know some of the other matchups on this. When we got March Casey Against Haffey physio. That's going to be ridiculous. At one fifty five got the return of Aryan Lipsky against Luana, Caroliina, another fun flyweight matchup between Pantoja and. Sarah and ask her ask her up again. This whole card is very sneaky. No doubt about it, but Alex again as a whole, we're flying under the radar with this entire card, but just kind of looking at sort of the the the basement dweller, so to speak on this card. What fight fighter storyline is one that sticks out to you? That's just not getting enough love in your opinion to things really surprised me when I about this one fight that I'm going to talk about when I just took a little things this morning. That one Brett Johns I think I'm looking John Mantell Jackson. I think that's an awesome matchup. I'm a big. Fan I I very much campaign for his. His finish would which one was it? The CAP slicer Joe Soto. I thought that was what was the last year breath John Somebody I mean mixing up to someone else. Did he do the calf slicer? Yeah, that was in twenty seven. Copa Nineteen Twenty, twenty, four, the sterling fight. We've lost track of all time. I believe that's year as the as the money mouse, the wiz bar and I remember campaigning. I love that place John Joe Soda Much but. He did it so fast to thirty seconds. Something like that, so a big Red John's Fan, I know he lost a little bit of buzz because he you know. He was given a couple of step up fights Pedro Munoz Ousmane Sterling, and he lost those guys, and that's fine. And then he got sort of bumped back down the contender rankings but I still think this guy is just world class. And Montel Jackson also really really good prospect surprised to see according to top all g that mantell Jackson is a two to one favorite, so maybe people have fallen off the bread John's bandwagon more than I thought. Maybe are much much higher on Montel Jackson than I would've thought, but that I think is really WanNa. Watch I. Think both those guys still have the potential to be future contenders at one thirty five I like I. Don't want anyone talking about. Yes there's two really sneaky for me. One Grant Dawson versus net and Armani 'cause Dawson's look so good since getting into the UFC contender series. He's a guy that I've been watching for a long time now. He's on the regional scene and narrow is an explosive guy. WHO's GonNa give Dawson probably his biggest test to date in the octagon really loved fight and the other. I actually agree with you on for sure, but I think this is might be the sneaky EST fight on the full slate of. I know what they're gonNA. Say Yeah John's versus Jackson I I love that fight so much John's. You know. He had the two straight losses against sterling and moon knows, but he was able to bounce back that really awesome fight with Tony Gravely back in January, and now he's taking on in my opinion, one of if not the absolute best prospects at one hundred thirty five pounds of Mantell Jackson's nine in one loan loss was on super short notice it is you have debut against Ricky Simone at U. OF C. to twenty. Twenty seven I'm pretty sure, but since then submission of Brian Kelly her, and then to just flat out, dominant decision wins over Andre Sukhum ta and Philippi Collider's. This kid is an exciting talent. This is GonNa be the biggest test of his career to this point. This is a guy in Jackson. I could see in the next year year and a half could fight for the belts I think he's that good. I thought you were going to throw it a third option. That's why I thought you were going to also add. We should mention that w hommos and our months rookie, and because this is a grappler like when I saw this bite announced I squealed. I remember when this fight broke and. Sarukhan is such an exciting wrestler. I know. I know these days. You know people don't always equate wrestling with excitement, but he is a really good exciting dynamic mesler, very aggressive, and Hommos is insane on the ground. Jitsu is insufficient. Skills are are just absolutely elite, so that fight which is second on the prelims. That's another one to watch. Yeah, so we just mentioned three set I. Don't know how much people are talking about them, but I hope people will give those fights a shot because those are gonna be high-quality fights and Pantoja and ask her office. Oh. Yeah, good. You didn't mention that. And I think what's interesting about that fight is fantasia was under the impression that he was GonNa be the backup fighter for the title fight, and especially with the Kobe nine thousand nine news like he, he must have been thinking throughout this whole process like I'm. Like I'm feeling pretty good about it and when you're about to step into the octagon. Her. Ask off man you. You got to be as open minded in his clear headed as you could possibly be. That's a tough fight for for Pantoja. On his mind that he could be. He could have been fighting for the title. Is there a chance that maybe he? took his foot off the gas a little bit when it comes to ask her off with with this title. Hope in the back of his mind. Mike, how can there? I don't think he's GonNa overlook someone like ascribe undefeated fighter, absolute stud at flyweight. But how can there not be an emotional letdown I? Think I think it was like a week ago. You know that we heard about. A positive cope in nineteen tests, and if you're if you're Pantoja, you're on that same card. You know you're one of the top contenders you know you can champion. Wait, you have to at least be thinking man if something happens I'm probably the guy they're going to call and then within a few days. You know it became official. You know that we knew that. Yes. He actually was designated as the replacement for for the main event. If if either Figueredo or or going to be, should fall out, so you know. Just his head had to be checking every day. What was going on Figueredo? What was going on? Is He gonNA tested again? What is he flying into Abu Dhabi. When is he flying in? After all that, how is he possibly GonNa make weight. And then you know the the updates kept coming in positive updates for does case and again in Pantoja as focusing on his opponent, he had to always have in the back of his mind. What if what as of this morning up? Until this morning? He had to be thinking, but he made one twenty-five up. Pantoja did so he was clearly ready. You know. Should something happen, but yeah I I don't see I wouldn't blame him. I wouldn't assume but I wouldn't blame him if there was some sort of emotional letdown. Fighting for the title and then again just kind of going back to your original main opener matchup. Should be a fun one tomorrow night on ESPN. Plus, UFC fighter island, two in Abu, Dhabi vacant flyweight title on the Line Davis figure out versus Jason and Ben Abe's to of course we will have all of your event coverage straight through the event on May fighting dot. COM, Brazilian. Bee's gear may cruises in Abu Dhabi crushing it doing the damn thing, and we'll be covering everything after the fight as well so keep it locked right here on. Dot Com. That'll do it another preview show in the books. Alex Kelly, thank you very much Mike Hack Casey line on on the production side in the truck. Thank you for watching and we will see you all tomorrow night. You're listening to media long as network.

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#474  Stephen Thompson, Kevin Lee, Maycee Barber, Jack Marshman

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

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#474 Stephen Thompson, Kevin Lee, Maycee Barber, Jack Marshman

"You're listening to the media podcast network. It is Monday that's one fifth of March two thousand nineteen and this is the enemy. Our my name is Luke Thomas. Thank you so much for joining I greatly. Appreciate it while we had a packed show today. All wow, let's see wonderboy. He's going to be here in about twenty minutes. Talk about everything that happened at Nash in Nashville. I appreciate his time. Macy Barbara will be here to talk about her big win. Also in Nashville, Kevin Lee is jumping up to welterweight. So we'll discuss that with him. And then Jack Marston had a nice win at UFC London. But there were some issues with the weight cut with the military stuff. So we'll talk to him about one twenty or so, plus you're going to be my guest not one but two different ways number one with your tweets using the hashtag the hour. We'll get to those little bit later. Plus as always in the sound off with your calls. Eight four four eight six six two four six eight. Happy Monday to you guys. Hope you're doing well real quickly. I the listener made this for me. There's no way to zoom in think I can take us out from a gentleman whose company goes by the name of shadow rabbit. You can see he made a cl-. Oh, no my hand fell apart. No, well, he did make claymation doll. And I think he's got roughed up in the mail. We'll fix it. Nevertheless, he made a little metal stand for it. And it all works in there. So we gotta get the hand fixed. But other than that, it's pretty cool shadow rabbit. Sorry, shadow rabbit that the first time I bought out the case I busted up, but I'll I'll fix down here in just a minute. So big, thanks to them. Are we going to change things up today? Got to do things a little bit differently because of the way the show is structured so normally I do the Monday morning analysts today. We're not let's jump right into it. We'll do the Monday morning analysts just a little bit later right now. Let's start things off with the sound off. All right. Very is. Danny's the Gora. All right, Danny. Let's pile through these as fast as we can. We might have some time later in the show depending on how things go to get more calls in. But let's assume the for the moment, we don't we gotta jump right through these you doing, well, my friend. Yeah. Good weekend. Very good. Glad to hear it. Yeah. All right. Let's get into it a lot of things happening everywhere. But especially in the bantamweight division. So let's discuss that. All right. Hey, what's going on guys? This is Bobby from Providence Rhode Island. My question is with this TJ dillashaw news. Do you think this taints his legacy? Do you think maybe it was just something to wait to make it down to that lower weight class? Do you think he's been doing stuff all the time? Like, Cody Garbrandt saying, I'm not gonna lie guys, really? Really? Fairly. He's fall into the middle of a monsoon, which is unfortunate. Yeah. Or he's just an extreme mouth breather. You know extradition. That is that opportunity as well. All right. So you go first on this one since this is the topic that I know you've probably a lot to say on what he would what do you say? Yeah. Well, this is very unfortunate situation for TJ dillashaw. We still don't know what he popped four. So we kinda kind of have to reserve some some judgment because of that because we don't have the full truth, obviously. But we do know he's gonna be at least out for a year because he was a spended by the New York State Athletic Commission for year. We still don't know what you saw is going to give him. But man, I kind of felt like T J dillashaw was finally coming into his own. And I know he was coming off a loss. But like, I don't know if you remember when he was out of the title picture, and he was also worked trying to unionize him in the UC kinda weren't seeing eye to eye, and I felt like with the Suharto fi with everything going on about them. Wait, all that was kind of fading away. And he was kind of entering this era where he was going to define himself is one of the best bantamweights every one of the best pound for pound fighters ever. This is Hugh. Is a huge setback for him. So yeah, it's it's it's tougher. You dillashaw? I don't know what happened. My my sense of things is you know, there's infamous photo. Now that we've all seen with him sitting down eating that solid. He has like a million products in front of him. You know, I know that weight cut was was not easy, and it was probably very scientific they probably rely on a lot of supplements here. And there to you know, make up for for some of the nutrition and in the world of supplements. Man, every time you take something you're you're rolling a die. So I think it has to do something with that. Here's what I'm going to say. I don't I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. When you have a job like this one where you have show, and we're here to discuss topics. Here's here's what any producer or program director will tell you when you crack that Mike lube, you gotta have a firm position. You've got to stick to it. You gotta make it with all your heart. But here's the reality. We don't know anything other than yeah confirmed. There was a positive test. An in competition test. We know that and we know that he got suspended by New York. Now, I find it highly unlikely that it's marijuana because I think of it is she would have addressed it. And he would have said something, but I can't rule that out because based on everything we know that still qualifies, look, it could be the worst case scenario, but I don't think you'd get suspended for a year. And why marijuana Nick de has nearly got suspended for life by Nevada's, and they doubted back. Well, let's be reasonable. It's only give him five years. These primates who have those lead is the worst judgment on earth. So I don't know. I mean, look again, my hunch is that's probably not that. But I don't know what the answer is. I don't know what he took what he got caught for. I don't know if it's a tune supplement. I don't know if it's just straight up, you know, steroids, right in the van. I have no idea, dude. This is a serious issue that could badly as you noted affect his reputation. So here's my answer. Don't know don't know going to wait till there's more information. So there you go, by the way, we start to his management about talking to us. Hopefully, they do. All right. Well, that leaves the his division and interesting standpoint because Huda was supposed to come up and have that sort of. Yeah. You know, fight with him. So let's talk about what you know goes next for that division. I'm Parker calling from Houston, Texas. What's up, Luke? I was just wondering if you could give your insight on what you think about the UFC bantamweight title picture. We know that TJ dillashaw would suspended by the New York City. I've let it commission last week and he's going to be out for a year. So, you know, you have guys like Marla mariah's ultimated journaling Henry pseudo pave your moon ios. And you know, you obviously need to make a title match up. So the vacant title. I'd be this question goes another minute. So thanks for calling Parker, and let's just sex. Yeah. Shots not to Houston. Cool sitting. Yeah. I've been there. My aunt lives in the woodlands, which is like burbs of he's knows I've been there a couple times. It's nice. I like people. Yeah. All right. So what do you what do you do at bent mandate? The pseudo more ice fight bro to hate everything about him. I hate it. I can't stand it. Now, am I here to tell you that it's going to be a bad fight? Danny. I have no idea what it's going to be like everybody ended up being the best fight of the year. And Henry pseudo an amazing fighter. Of course. Marlin marash deserve a person's position. There can be no doubt these the most important ingredient year period. Yes, he he is for sure. A guy that's going to be in that equation. No matter what your, but you were doing this the hudo at one hundred five thing because dillashaw wanted to run the back. Yes. Dillashaw should've never been down at one twenty five. Yup. It went disastrously for them as we've all now seen in addition to these other insult to injury kinds of scenarios. Now, he's out the whole reason you were going to have him at one thirty five is Austin, simply removed, and you're just going to do it. Yes. It's like, I I don't I don't get that at all about whether both ripped by the same manager which kind of out of which we've seen before because Carlos kind of Tyron Woodley. So it's on heard of. But that's kind of weird. It's like, I don't I don't know, man. It's like, I'm not telling you. It's a bad fight. But algebra in sterling should be in that position one thousand percent, even if it's not as sexy, a fighter or whatever. Yeah. I actually think Petra Muna's should be in ninety question because algebra in sterling not so long ago loss to Marla Mariah in an pretty remember. He got knocked out pretty bad. I think you I think what I'd like to do event. Like ideally would be keeps a Huda one twenty five. I think look if you're going to put that division down at some point find do it. But at least squeeze some more title fights out of it. I think Joseph been Evita's deserving guy guy that has been a company guy since day one. He's done everything. Right. He's been a top contender for forever. He's got history with Suharto. So make that happen now one thirty five I'd like to see I know Mirage versus Pedro Munoz. I know that's not that doesn't feel as big of a fight as who to fight. But that's just the way I would take things and maybe do like a Peter yawn algebra in sterling for number one contender some can live with that. What I can't live with is, you know, Ellis just or or or the less you want to move out because you're getting rid of flyweight in that grace. Okay. But here's the other part about it. You just over the weekend juicier for meagre who was already the number one contender. He'd be devastated. Figueredo who people like who's devastated Figueredo? Oh, I'm sorry. You mean the guy who was undefeated and ranked fourth in that division heading into Nashville who also. So now just lost. It's like do what a guy that has the haircut of God of war. I forgot about that. But it's like do what does that guy going to get shot down there? I mean, you know, it would just living in crazy land. So there's gonna do with they're going to do. But I hate both those fights. Sorry. I do. And and you know, what's funny. Dana white. I think gone after you have see Nashville. He was asked about the whole situation. I think he said, oh, yeah. I think I think Joseph Ben Evita's fights fights for Migo for the number one contender. And if anybody drops out of the bantamweight title fight, then you know, they'll fill in. But I'm like, wait. So if I didn't want twenty five or one thirty five. It's almost situations. Just a mess. That's why I think either you get to get rid of the division or you don't you know, what I'm saying? Like this weird limbo doesn't really work out. Now, let's switch topics into something completely different. Usually the ominous. Hey, Luke, and Danny kind of from Keno, California, really admire both of your work keep it up. So there's this thing in our society regarding cannabis medicinal cannabis and even CD Anthony Patterson started incorporating CBD Gumy's into his diet to even sleep and says it has been a game changer, and it got me thinking, lots of athletes and fighters started realizing benefits CD or lowering inflammation, relaxing, muscles, etc. But our fighters overlooking the gigantic benefits of having proper sleep love to hear your thoughts. And hey, maybe some quality sleep a day or two hours a week really helped you out rough slow the grain may got going and having enjoyed also shut up to Mississauga favorite new Shurmur. Okay. Taking early insurance people act like I choose not to get a sleep. Rather get a good Snyder sleep din rat, or maybe you think I'm doing up there. Dancing in the street with raccoons and stray animals rather than trying to get a good now. I'm trying to get a good night's rest. It's just I live with an insane amount of anxiety and pressure. So I just and I have to get up balls early to come here. So now have you tried CD? Yeah. Here's the thing. CBD? I've tried Gumy's. I've had no success. I've tried rubs. I've had no success. I've tried oils. I've had no success. Now, here's the deal with this. And there has been this is not this is not up for debate. There really are no longitude studies that prove any of the benefits of CBD, which you do get or a lot of anecdotal stories. Hey, man, I tried it. It was a game changer. I'm not here to say that those people are wrong. They could very well. Be right. All I'm trying to say to folks is there isn't any to date scientific data that justifies even a tenth of these claims. Now that's partly in the process of changing. There are studies now being done. So we'll see what they have to say. It might. In out that those it works for certain kind of person and doesn't work for another. Another problem is it's a totally unregulated marketplace. So you can have a friend that has a great company that makes super killer stuff, and it all works for you. Maybe I just keep buying the losers CBD. I don't know. But I have not had any success with it that all, but hey, man, if Anthony pests is getting better sleep at night because CBD dude keep doing it. Yes. Sleep is they'll tell you this in any kind of bodybuilding form or even powerlifting or even weightlifting the most important things are the kind of food you eat off see how much hydration how much sleep you get. And then at the very last is supplementation. But sleep diet and hydration the most important things in fitness. Yeah. For sure I've tried CBD as well. They'll Gumy's and the oil, and I didn't feel anything. I don't know if maybe it did work because I also know like, it, reduces inflammation, and all that maybe it did work. And I do I have a hard time picking it up. But I didn't feel anything also fund the real story, Alexis Vila, your remember him Alexis viewer. Yeah. He he's been fighting for forever. You know, Olympic wrestler and crashed into an airport. That's true. Yes. I asked them once after a fighting up, you know, he was already deep into his forties in like still kicking ass and ask them. You know, what's the what's the key to, you know, be? So so being such a great shape as such late Asian Cuban one being Cuban. Yes, having those Cuban jeans men and the other one he told me sleep early early music by nine pm on Murray like crashes, he's he's absolutely right slim. So important this. Oh, big. But no, I I mean, I just just so it's clear. I don't choose to not get sleep. I'm trying I've cut out alcohol. Big time. It's just hard. It's hard, man. Yeah. It's hard to get good sleep. I will now let's talk about some of the. Action that happened over the weekend. Obviously Anthony Pettus picking up a pretty important win for his career. But you know, now the sort of the path his path is not too clear, maybe one seventy one fifty five. So let's discuss that. This is Matt calling from Boston. And just after what happened this weekend, Anthony pets now seems to have fight offers and three different division by teams being come and go wherever he ends up, weight wise. So I was just wondering where you would like to see Anthony plan if he had to pick one what would your choice b thanks and thank you for the show. All right. So I don't know what the third way class was. Because I I don't think he's ever doing forty five. I guess he's he does have a top ten win in each of those divisions. Yeah. But he's not there's no Beck and call back there. This is real simple for now. Look you just beat the number three number four guy. There is no reason to get out of that division. See where it takes you. You never know. I do think he was losing that fight up until he was winning which we'll talk about in the Monday morning analysts. But nevertheless, it's a great win. It's the students a killer killer win. No one's ever done that to wonder boy, you just gotta say if it ain't broke don't fix it. Another some things to clean up, obviously. So look see how it goes. Here's my theory about this Danny I asked a bunch of people to tell me every time someone has jumped up in weight whether it went well or not well what you find. I don't have. I don't have any hard data on this. This is again anecdotal or at least yet incomplete just observations professional. What I have noticed is. It is very not easy. But it is common. It is not uncommon for someone to jump up in weight and initially make a big splash. What it is hard for them to do is jump up and wait and have a sustained effort of success. Yeah. It's why you see these guys come up and wait for these champ champ fights, and it just brutalize somebody. But then you see cowboy he went to seventy look great. But then you run into some pretty clear dead ends at that point. Yeah. So he'll look there for like three or four fights. I think he picked up a we'll do that he can't compete there. He's obviously competitive there. But it's hard to make the argument. That's as best division. Yeah. So like Pettus might be competitive at one seventy to see my hunch is eventually he's going to find his way back down to one fifty five. I see that situation kind of like in soccer when they bring, you know, certain managers specialized in just you know, helping teams avoid relegation, and it's not really the fact that the managers all that good is just the fact that there's changed period. And then, you know, people when there's changed people just react, positively to that for a little bit. So you bring in a guy for like four or five games just ovoid relegation, and you know, they just managed to get a few points. But is is really mainly just because of change because they're, you know, changing things around in. They're not. Stuck doing the same thing? So it kind of reminds me of that situation. But look I'll hated on this match when it was first announced. I mean, I made up my thoughts pretty clear here on on the show. But man now that it happened. It was a pretty big gamble from from Anthony pet is man what a great decision because look thinks look pretty murky out lightweight. You don't know how you know, the title pictures going to sort out kind of say my Walter way. But at least you got both options. So when it goes, you know, worse than the other. You can just, you know, stick to whatever division is a little bit more clear. I mean, it's safe to say he's a top five in each. You know, technically, you know, beating number three, right? So you're smart move. Right. It out Ken and then make mega decision. How far goes also? There's plenty of light weights have moved up to one fifty five so technical you won't really have to fight like a a legit legit, you know, welterweight or so there's that as well. Let's take one more. And then I'll call a call Thompson broker. What's going on good? It's Ricardo from Toronto. So Pence Smith statement and in terms of matchmaking opportunities named endless now. But I think fight the most people including myself one and see that a Connor match up. You know, fodder tweet out to the fight. And obviously about people talking the both lightweights both look in return, July, you know, plus Connors and book, not the show going anywhere. I can happen. So what do you think Connor about the Dell or EA we'll make the most censor penetrating, this explorer? Who should pedophile next any top welterweight in the top five? You don't like the Connor fight any. It's like people like Connor versus a guerilla who doesn't want. Everyone wants to see Connor fight. Yeah. In virtually any permutation. Yeah. Of course, do I think that's the best way for him to move forward in his career. No, I don't somebody. Will he needs to be doing? But like a pet is fight. Would that be cool? Sure. Do there'll be an amazing striking out. But just thinking realistically about what's a good way to advance. No, it's not that's not the best way from Nunez. I wanna see Connor verses Nate the as I think that the whole thing is to wrap up agreed fairly soon. So no, I wouldn't like to see PETA's versus gone in for some reason. It just doesn't intrigue me all that much. Yeah. It's again, if you saw across the case, we'd said he'd be like, wow. They're about to get it on Russia. Not. Yeah. It's the same thing with the marash when they're across the cage mooch other. I'm going to be a little bit nervous because those are two amazing fighters. But that doesn't mean that we're doing right by the divisions, and the the fighters inside those divisions. So they go, but we're on the streaming. All bets are off, Danny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I'm gonna leave you with the one question. This is specifically for you. And I'm going to give mister Thompson sounds good. Hey, Luke, this is Neil from Calgary Canada. I'm just wondering about your analysis on your fights. I like them. They're great analysis. I'm just wondering if any fighters actually ever get upset at you forgiving the way the their fight plan or game plan. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes free time. The longest Paul has ever. Yeah. Sometimes I've had a couple of messages about that. Typically, not really what you guys have to understand about the analysis that I do I really appreciate I I do think it says to me import a little bit inside the the media space relative to other media members. Not so much coaches is that there's a one a certain kind of perspective that I bring that is different than how coach might see it. And then two there's a lot of small details. I don't get to part because I don't see them part because I don't have enough time. There could be a lot of missing pieces there that, you know, coach my look at what I'm doing and say, oh, you know, I I had I had the coach of a really famous fighter reach out and say I got like ninety percent of what he they were doing correctly. But the ten percent that I missed was pretty critical. So, you know, what do you want to say the reality is what I always tell you guys. I don't present it to you as the best analysis or the only analysis or even the complete analysis. I presented to you as mine. A give you like a big picture overview. With some grasp of the details. And then we'll go from there. I'm music colleges. Nate sloan. I'm songwriter. Charlie. Harding. We're the hosts of switched on pop the podcast where Charlie and I breakdown pop hits to reveal how the music works. And why it matters. It's our job to help you find those hob moments within the music, whether you're a pop fanatic or skeptic, a teenager or an octogenarian non musician or professional composer every music lover. Will discover something you're opening in switched on pop. Yeah. And we think you'll have a lot of fun with us because you're going to get to hear from amazing guest musicians. Song writers producers in journalists. Listen to switched on pop. Every week starting in March on the apple podcast app or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go this gentleman. Now, I really appreciate his time. I was even hesitant to bring them on. Because you know, you get these guys in a tough spot you want to be respectful of their time. But I also want to talk to my just to see how he was doing a check in. And so he is gracious enough to give it some of his time. We're joined now via the magic a Skype by the one and only wonderboy himself, Stephen Thompson. Hi, Steven how you doing my friend good. How are you feeling? First of all, I'm feeling good man Fillon gun, you know, a little bomb. But hey, man, it's that's the way the game goes sometimes since on. It's we in the game long enough. You know, sometimes you this stuff happened. So I'm feeling good though. So by the way, just to medically get the the final wrap up here. Did you have to go the hospital or thing or once you were in the back? Doctors took a look at you. And you were good to go. Yes. I actually it me the hospital got some X rays done of my left leg and a CAT scan. So we were there till three thirty AM in the morning before we actually got we got back to the hotel around four. So were there for a little while? So everything's good, though, brains fine, foots fine. No, brakes, just a little banged up down there. So everything's good. Or so let me just say this man, I know obviously, Saturday didn't go your way, but to go that many fights in a game this dangerous, and for that to never happen kinda miraculous like on some level. I know the streak is over. But you do have to be proud of that streak. Right. You know, I am. And I'm in close to eighty five and never been never been knocked out. Yeah. But it's crazy. You know, had to be this time why this time we had a whole bunch of people there from all hometowns. Celebrate, you know, support me, but it is what it is ended happen. So the only thing I can do is get back on the on that ball and keep moving forward. Go back to the drawing board. You know? Let's talk about the fight before the ending look to me like you were winning. How are you feeling about it? Yeah. I think I was piece in them up. You know, especially with my job. He threw a few leg kicks nothing that really bothered me at the time. I remember the first round very well. I don't remember the second around near well. But I remember going back to the corner and having his blood like little I'm looking down at me. I got his blood all over my chest. I'm looking at his he's like leaking from his no. So like man that break his knows what's going on. I just remember saying this is a tough guy. And then after that kind of blank, I literally come to in the back. I see Chris wideman. I see my mom, see my brother, and I don't remember being out in the cage or walking walk into the bag taking pictures with everybody. I don't remember that at all. What was the game plan heading in? There. You get a little we're executing it pretty well for what you remember. But what was the thought because there was a bit of a height disparity? I thought he was going to go a lot to the body which I guess a little bit. He did. But he went went much more to the legs. Yeah. You know, I think he I didn't expect an stand right in front of me, you know, right out the battle. It was going to go to him get him backing up, but he actually met me in the middle started coming at me. And he's he did a lot of leg kicks. But I remember thinking, you know, his Franks Republicans. We're kind of slow in the first round like, man. This is good. This is not going to take long at all. That's what you get from. Thank you. But yeah, he felt his film is hands are fairly slow. You did though a lot of leg kicks out there. But the game plan was you don't really pump the jab, you know, get him back up a little bit. And then look for the knockout for mayor. We did keep his hands on fairly high which made that fairly difficult. So I started going to the body as well with my own body kicks. So to try and get him to drop those hands just a little bit. You know in the late around I figure that those bodies shots would definitely where where there's whereas body out dropping his hands, and then that would be a little bit easier. But we never made that point. So you not felt good about my performance in. I went back and watch the fight several times, especially the knockout. And I'm like, you know, it seemed to me like, I know I've been hit harder than that tyrants. Hit me harder than that. You know? Why did this punch affect me the way it did? And the only thing I can think of is it just being right on the money right on the spot. Sometimes it's all it takes. Know I actually went and looked at every yesterday. My wife was real happy with me. I went and looked at every time you've been knocked down in the UFC. And all the other times, you got knocked down. It was a huge punch a huge like Tyron Woodley. Just loading up. The let me see what you think of my guests. My guess is that there was a slight slight slight delayed timing on it and superman punches, you know, often comes real linear. His was almost arc in like in this way. So between the delay, timing and the trajectory. I don't think you were expecting it fair. Definitely fair you definitely fair because I went back to wash through a psyche. That kind of glanced off of them put me in a bad position where my right foot was fairly to the outside of him, which put me closer to him. And I know he was up against the case all you had to do was lunch forward. And of course, when you're throwing a punch with your whole body behind. It makes it that much more met that much more powerful. And the last you know, three or four inches is where the power comes from, you know, so his whole body being behind it and doing that straight points right down the pipe. I think that's that's what that's what did it. And you know, it took me a while to actually figure it out. So that can watch why you know, it didn't look like it was that much, you know, especially after tyrant put me down not not not putting me away. I'm sitting for why was that, you know. But you know, it doesn't take it doesn't. It doesn't have to take a, you know, a guerilla of a punch to put you away. Just you put on the spot. That's all it takes. You know, something else. I noticed that went back in. Check this with a fight metric for Anthony Pettis. He targeted your head. The least amount he's ever targeted an opponent in his career. And he targeted your legs more than he's ever targeted an opponent in his career. It was the opposite of what he basically always does to what extent was that? Surprising. You know, I figure that he was going to try and keep the distance. I knew that being African me coming off a from a knee injury from the five before he probably was going to go for the legs a little bit more. So I mean in our game plan in our head. We figured that was gonna happen. I didn't I didn't think that he was gonna not as many punches to the head. But I think he was talking about legs more. So that kind of threw me off a little bit. We mostly kept his hands up. So maybe that was kind of smart because he knows I'm a counter striker, you know, has got the longer reach and that I was going to try to counter him. Once he started throwing punches. And you know, I think it was smart on his part. He definitely kept his hands closer, by the way. If things have kept going the way they were going. Do you feel like you would have gotten the finish in the third? I know it's all this point speculation. But nevertheless, how are you feeling? It was it was headed in that direction. It was heading to good your action. Yes. Yes. I believe. So I believe so. So I mean that was only the second round. So we had three more rounds to go. So you know, the damage that I was doing that. I was causing him leads me to believe that. I I was I would be able to finish him. But you know, some, you know, da. I know man. I really I it's kind of tough to talk about let me ask you this thing. I yesterday on Twitter. I'd put up a question to folks, I said list for me all the times somebody like, you know, not just re regional may. But you know, high level where somebody jumped up way class, and maybe it went, well, maybe it didn't. But just list for me all of them. And I noticed something again, I could be wrong about this. I just know from what I read it is ain't that easy. You can make a jump up in weight class and make a big splash making a sustained effort at that way class maybe not so much. But that one time and you've seen it now with these champ champ fights these guys come up one time, and they just tear apart somebody out of nowhere. But then if they stick around the way class deal, they run into some brick walls that someone like you probably wouldn't, you know, staying at welterweight. What do you make of that? If you think that's true. You know, what I now that you said it, I kinda see it. You know, like, you know, Cowboys surrounding Mayhew's flash. So did Mazda all I mean, Michael kiosks at his first fight up to one seventy he submitted Carlos Condit. Hannah is all these new there's a lot of people who has made that jump in. It may have to do with the way cut not having to cut that way. Not depleting yourself. You know, you just think you may feel more confident in that situation that that that one time that you're moving up, and you're not having to deplete yourself. It's just a good feeling. I I'm not really sure why that is. But it is I can kind of see that. Now. Now that I go back, and I I think about it. So yeah, man. I don't know. Everybody's been asking me. Hey you. At eighty five. What occurs. Still the champ. I would. Never know, man. You'd never know. I'm not a big well to either I'll walk about one eighty five one ninety in lot of these guys walk around over two hundred pounds like mom literature when he moved up maybe not work did and he walked out anyway. So again, I know it's just Monday. But what are you thinking about what this does for you in the welterweight division? You know, I don't know, man. I gotta move look at the ranking SeaWorld on that. But I do know that rankings really don't matter at this point. And you'll see you know in a UFC. Yeah. He's got a lot of guys who are still being bumped up and fighting fighting champions at you know, ranked number five, and I don't know, man. I gotta go back to the drawing board and see what happens and there's a fight my hometown coming up at three months, and we're gonna see how he's feeling two weeks. I'm not I'm not gonna push it at all, you know, after knockout special on like that. I don't want to jump out there too soon. So I don't know. I mean, it seems to me though, like you look at what pedestal right? He kind of had some upset some downs at some upset some downs. And got this weird offer to go way class in just took it. It's I've told folks the best way to get ahead in the rankings. Even if you stay inside your own division is to just take a fight late notice. Because then they have to slot you in against somebody really good. And then another way to like rebound after a loss is sometimes to take a weird fight. I wonder how you feel about that. Yeah. Man that is true. So I the first thing right now, obviously before we start jumping into that is to make sure you the knocked out. So I'm taking a super serious course. I'm like, I'm like unstitched like twelve o'clock, and I'm still in the dark by that drew. You know, not not all my phone just kinda chilling here. So. You know, Dan, why those guys you still want me to fight in three months? But you know, I wanna take it slow wanna make sure everything's right before I do that. So, you know, got the best doctors looking at me, I got a I've got a lot of in the night fighters gifts, really good advice. So I appreciate them. You know, getting in contact with me, let me know what's going on. So everything's gonna work out, man. And you have not seen the last of student one avoids that I guarantee this right here is definitely fired me up, and it is put a flame in the. I think the last time I felt this way was when I tore my NCO arm ICO like ten years ago. So I'm Mitch and the bits Quebec to the gym get back to John board. You'll you'll have to, you know, this is well, as I do, you're the competitor merely the observer, but I have I have observed do this is a this is a rebound second third chapter sport if ever there was one you just need that one right opportunity, boom, and you can hit the ground running look at the last two weeks, fourteen maslow's had a million ups and downs. And then ca boom same with Pettus. And then here we are. So you know, you know, that as well as I do there's a ton of opportunity for another chapter. Oh, definitely hundred percent. And that's and, you know, looking at this in in those guys, they're the they're actually given me the confidence to you know, to keep pushing for to keep that grind going. And a lot of these fighters. You know, Jacob Sanchez hit me up on Instagram. Let me know historian. How his ups and downs. Now, you know, you saw his last fight which was phenomenal. And he said he's been my situation and keep over four stay positive. Taking these guys at. Still there. We gotcha. Yeah. There is okay. Thought we lost it for. You trailed off for a second. But it's all good. So let me just ask you this last one. We'll let you go because I really appreciate your time. And I don't want to take any more of it looking back on it. I want to ask this as politely as I can. I'll ask it plainly do regret taking the fight. No, not at all. Not at all. I mean, anti pet is is one of the best strikers best five in the USC. And that's why I'm here. You know? I'm not even if money, that's all that's a bonus minute the honor and the glory to face the best fighters in the world. And he got a big name that a big following in. I've been fanny his for a long time. Anyway. You know, we've been chat back and forth. So the past few as just, you know, wishing luck in in our in our career, so yeah, man. I I don't read it on bit. Not at all. Well, let me just tell you this. What we let you go. I know on these shows like this the common thing is to bring on all the winners after a Saturday. But you know, look man your class act. You're gonna be back, and I just felt like it was important for the public to hear from you. Obviously requires your compliance. I can't I can't make you do it. But I I'm glad that you got a chance to speak. And you know, man, look, it's a setback. But as I mentioned before, you know, as well as I do this is the sport of of of rebounds if ever there was one. So I wanna thank you for your time. Get some rest, and I can't wait to see the the next version. You got for us. Hey, I appreciate you call in. And and it's definitely a pleasure being I'll let you and don't worry. Like, I said you haven't seen the last of may. And I will be back better Shaw. Longer than ever guaranteed. Now. Trae Shane sir can await get some rest, even thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Bye. Bye. There. He goes. All right. I appreciate that. I struggled with whether or not to bring them on because you want to give these guys their space. But I also wanted the public to hear from them. So there we go. All right. Speaking of hearing from others now is my turn to hear from you. It is time for round of tweets. All right. Let's do it five minutes on the clock. And then we'll get to your tweets. Let's see. Let's see. There's there's the timer show. Me them tweets are here, we go fit. All right wonderboy is contemplating making the jump to one hundred eighty five pounds Yay. Or nay? I think what I would say is that specifically after speaking to him. Let's wait a second. I would say it's probably okay with the right matchup. Maybe not a huge middleweight because as he noted he walks around one in five one ninety folks, I know lightweights that walk around at one eighty five one ninety I know it's they'll walk around heavier than one ninety. So not saying no just saying let's see how things shake out for his ranking position. Let's see what that one eighty five. Pound fight is and see which one makes the most sense next. What do you believe is the bigger factor for the KO in the Pettus wonderboy fight? Is it a product of the non weight cutting fighter? Retaining power by not depleting themselves or the weight cutting fighter. Dehydrating the brain causing them to be more susceptible to a K. Oh, no. I don't think it's got anything to do with. He might have had more power. I'm going to show you why I'm going to show you why the Monday morning, and that was the case, basically, it was I looked at every scenario where wonderboy has been knocked down in the UFC, and what the commonalities our and this situation fit all of those to basically, a t it was a moment where wonderboy operates under a set of conditions where he has success when those are established if you can take away usually two or more of them than you can land some pretty significant shots. I think Anthony Pettus had three taken away. I'll show you that later next. Out of the following three. Which matchup would intrigue you the most for Anthony Pettus one Cowboys running one fifty five they've already fought. So no kinda McGregor won't one fifty five. Maybe Robbie Lawler one seventy definitely McGregor in that case because lawler's too big and the already fought cowboy so I guess Connor if those are the three options next. Luke, can you please? Yeah. Maybe Danny mixture you hit me up about this later. I'll unblock them. All right next. Here's the thing about blocking people as want folks to know, some of y'all like drinking water out of the tap. Some of y'all like drinking water out of the garden hose are prefer to drink water through a filter. All right. Do you agree with shale that in striking the smaller guy has the advantage? Well, I would need to hear exactly what shale says they're going to be a lot of scenarios with a smaller guy has an advantage. But if it's speed and with those little gloves, and if they're not cutting weight as much you can well see that there is a ton that they can do in terms of making up the ground. The weight cutting really has more to do with somebody who's going to lean and lay and grip on you versus someone who's going to strike because if you're if you're primarily concerned about striking you have to be fleet of foot fast quick agile. You don't want to have your brain messed with too much. So you can imagine a scenario where yes, you're smaller. But you don't have any of those other factors working against you. You can get some things done next. As a metal head. Do you pay proper respect to Metallica? Love the show. It sounds very cliche to be like everything after and Justice for all sucked. But everything after N Justice for all kinds of sucks, not everything. But most things I I actually appreciate it. More than anything there s an album the deal with the San Francisco orchestra, but you know, is all ride the lightning. Their debut album master of puppets. These are killing all these are the seminal pieces of work, Saint anger or even their last one, you know, death magnetic or whatever their last one was I haven't even kept track. You know, they're fine. But they're not great next. Don't you think? Connor. That's not how you spell Connor calling out every fighter after a fights getting weird now, I think he's just keeping his name in the mix. I don't I don't read too much into it next. Look, I've heard you say many times that you don't watch fights as a fan anymore, which is true. What exactly do you mean by that? Are there any upcoming fights or potential matchups that excite you enough where you can watch? And enjoy it as a fan. No not really maybe Lamont Peterson who retired yesterday. I because he's a DC guy. I watch as a fan. I really watch Emma may for it. Like, I want to see high level action. But as a fan, you get invested sometimes you can watch as a fan like that. But I guess what? I mean, when I say a fan is I don't cheer for Tony Ferguson because I like him so much. I mean, do like Tony. But when I watch him compete. I'm looking to see his skills, and I don't want bad things to happen to these guys. But I'm not I'm not there to root for the good either on their let that process play out naturally and then observing in comment. I don't I don't have like a rooting interest. I don't have a fighter t shirt or anything like that. So I watched it a little bit differently. Get one more in. With CD becoming more prevalent concern. Should there be cause for concern? When fighters who have been Kayode received one or two extra blows to the head once they're out. Yes, there should be plenty of concern. But I guess the bigger issue should be post fight in prefight medical screening. That's really that's really what we what we want out of this. We want. Just to put ourselves in the best position to handle. Those kinds of concerns are do we have Macy. What's the word on that? All right. Apparently, we are waiting on one Macy. All right, everybody, always hits me up. Once I go on the air. What is that all about like millwood? My phone is silent before the show the minute. I go on the air. I dunno in a just kind of crazy. In any event. Yeah. This is one thing I've been talking about like even with my own. We wouldn't call them on north unorthodox views on performance enhancing, drug use. I think even if you agree with me. And I know many of you do not here's one thing. I think you probably could get you to agree with me on even if let's say the world change tomorrow like fantas-, I could snap and haven't how I wanted. I don't think you could change any rules in the direction that I want to change them without adopting more rigorous prefight screens. And then as well post screens, I think the the bigger issue is not trying to manage advantages, but managing health, and even if you don't agree that we don't need to manage advantages. You probably could agree that we could always do a better job of managing health. I don't think we do as good of a job on that. As we can't. I think another thing that folks consider is. Did you have see has been an active participant as well? As a I think Biltmore as well. But certainly another you have see has with the Cleveland Clinic Cleveland Clinic brain study, and no one really knows what they're going to. Find probably that nothing. Good happens when you get punched in the head you can well imagine. But that's not what I mean. I guess what I would say is one of the benefits that enemy has over traditional stick and ball sports. Is that in the stick and ball sports, you'll start playing at a very young age, which is why they get better by the time. They're under twenty's, then a lot of enemy fighters because you can't literally compete legally until you're certainly pro license until you're eighteen so he's my point about all this. There might come research that shows once you take enough damage, and they can measure it there should be no more fighting for you period that that actually might be something that we have to contend with in the future. But a different thing for different time are as she on phone or Skype. What's the word? All right. Let's do it. Now, we go back to Skype because we are joined by the future. The future is now, ladies and gentlemen, shed a big win at you have seen Nashville over JJ Aldridge had a little adversity of front, but wind up winning in the end Macy Barbara's here. I may see. I'm doing quite well, it doesn't even look like you were in a fistfight. How you feeling? I feel great just couple of bumps and bruises. But I feel really good compared to the last by a I actually got to walk in and have my legs feeling great. What do you mean? Oh because of the the way cut. Yeah. A little bit of the way cut. And then the the fight before this one you know, battling with a little bit of a knee injury. So I got one in in the fight. So now this one I came out feeling pretty great. All right. What kind of grade would you give your performance? I don't know. I mean, obviously there are there are nine made. But I'm happy with the way the performance. I couldn't be more happy with it. Because just like I told several people, you know, I feel like I needed to show that side of me, the fact that I got dropped in the fact that you know, I took a couple of hits obviously not what we want to do. But I, but I'm happy with the performance. You certainly did it which I want to get to. But let's talk about the strategy ahead of time. What was it? On definitely do. Use our movement us range in. You know, just just out move her. And and. Obviously, not not hit. The actually we got hit with and into way on her for the counters. But also just go out there and be myself counters will work in a lot better in the second round, which we'll talk about. Why was she having some success in the first when you diagnose the fight? What do you attribute to her landing a little bit? And of course, dropping you once. Well, one can she's a great fighter. She's solid. And then to is is I didn't feel like myself quite until the to the second round. And I don't know if that was more. So that I was giving her more respect or a lot more respect than I have in in the past for other pundits. But I definitely was a little more cautious. So I knew that she could hit, you know. And I didn't quite find my rhythm yet. And she was having more success than I was for. Sure. And I also was like I was in southpaw which all through camp. I felt fantastic. Great in this outpost post. Danton I didn't feel very good in the orthodox stance. And then when we switched around. I ended up going to the orthodox stance, and I felt way better even though through the entire camp. I didn't see myself fighting this fight in orthodox stand. Interesting. So so you got what you got knocked down. What went through your head? I didn't feel like it was over, you know, and I've never had that happen to me. Really? I've had a few girls catch me where I was like off Ellen. And that's because I do I throw a lot of naked kicks. And that's something that we have to continue to to fix, and that's a bad habit that I have had in the past fights. And and these girls are getting my number on that. So I definitely had to fix that. But but some people were like, oh, well, she just, you know, cut you off balance or whatever. But I don't remember necessarily like that would the emotion that I had other than it's not over like, I didn't feel like it's over and I'm not gonna quit. I just felt like I had to get back up. And I was surprised, you know, if I was in her position, I probably would have put a little more pressure on it and not let me get back up quite like she did. But I'm glad to let me get back up. I continued to try to fight to get back up as long as I didn't hit those taking the shots on the way up. Did you coach Mark Montag say to you between rounds? Those guys are just telling me put your hands for kicks, you know, he wanted. Mark wanted me to to to lead with the hands. Not see. And that was that was what they were. Also, you know, he's like, you know, you set up your hand to your kicks and blend those your kicks. And then he also wanted me to set up the take down. And you know, I was a little cause us at. I I was like, okay, I'll get that. And but I also heard them during the fight and like a subconscious, you know, when they said the switch this out because once I switched from southbound orthodox they're like keep it up keep it up keep it up. And then they told me the pressure, and and and I don't know if I necessarily like hurt him, and it was like, okay. That's what I need to do. But it was kind of like it's punch. It's like I felt them say that. And and we did. With a lot better for you. Here's what I notice number one the resiliency in the first round, which is an important test for a young fighter second round. The accuracy was good. But here's what I noticed between you and her look to me like there was a pretty clear power differential in your favor. You seem to just hit a lot harder. I definitely hit a lot harder. She's accurate with her strike. But she's not the hardest hitter. I've ever been hit by Hannah ciphers by far is is the hardest girl ever been hit by. But I hit way harder than all those girls all of them hands down. I know my power, I know that our possess, and and I definitely have it. So once you once you stunned her man the fight just collapsed. So quickly. Right. Right. You are. And you were winning. You were doing that bit. Where the shot was coming, and you could see the whole torso follow along. Like, you were torquing into that thing. How when when you lend to that one shower, she kind of stumbled and covered did you know is over at that point. Well, it's is landed that first one that I cross and and she kind of like started a backup. And then read before she clinched up with me. I knew that I knew that was the one, and I knew that her initial reaction was going to be to try to tie up with me. And that's also another tell that they're hurt. You know when someone tries to tie up with with with their opponent. You know, they're hurt. Because that's that's like the safety. I need to get based on my brain who cover. But. Yeah, soon as I hit it without when I'm like, oh, it's over. But as soon as I connected that one that's a that's a good feeling because you can just feel it, you know, and yeah, it was it was over there. I went back, and I watch the far today for this interview. There was one shot along the fence line when that's when she covered up and then stopped reacting. Do you know what punch? What was that? I know that to that land it really solid there is it was my right hand. I doubled it up. I hit was like almost like a hook and eye through a straight right after that. And both of those landed first and then she covered her face. And then that Nikkei up, and I don't know if I ended that knee. I didn't feel like I landed. I didn't even know what through it. Everyone's like their that Neo was brutal. And I'm like, I watched it back a couple of times. I didn't see that Atlanta that hard, but those two hands that right hand that I doubled up definitely hit. And then and then those the just repetitive ones. The and continued, you know, that's what stopped because as soon as like the restaurants that come in. I feel like it's less about the power power shots. No more just about like keep ripping on the best you can. And it's hard as you can. Because you don't you don't wanna take too much time in between because it it looks a little bit looks a little bit less. I guess damaging keys Peterson she wasn't reacting. So I mean Keith Peterson had little choice at that point. You know what I mean? So so if I had to ask you what test you pass with this five. What would you say? I passed the test of you know, if you if I can come back from one losing around because that's I think that's the first round of ever lost. The fight was the first round of that fight. And I I knew I lost it. But it wasn't like crap. I lost that fight like lost that Ron I didn't let that emotion gets me. I've tried to keep a level head so knowing that I lost around. And I didn't let that get under my skin at even the slightest bit like it didn't change it anything in me. You know, I was still going for the finish. I'm still going to go and buy invite like I'm I'm winning the entire fight. So I feel like I passed that test of can you come back from around that you've already lost and not let it under your skin. And then I also feel like I passed the test of Ken, she take a hit get drop. Not that we want to see that. But can't you take a hig dropping come back from that, you know, because a lot of girls, obviously, that's not that wasn't like a terrible. Like, she got dropped. It was bad. But you know, it was good to see that. I got hit a few times in the head. And I and I kept coming and I didn't shy away from punches after that. You know, I didn't feel like I was flinching a lot. But definitely it looked like I was flinching because I remember hearing her say, oh, she's fighting on it. She's biting on the fighting on it. And I knew that that they were saying that because I wasn't necessarily biting on that was just more. So you know, she she she would faint, and then I would pay and then she was saying that I would say in and I was trying to get her to throw the hands. So that I could count on off of it. But it was a little bit of a back and forth. But definitely the zillions like you said, and and the key. Keeping the level head in the fight. You know, that you were you made a point to distinguish yourself from Ronda Rousey, which I thought was kind of interesting you seem to have a real sense about who to model yourself after. So for example, you have said you wanted to beat John Jones's record to become the youngest champion, and that you are not the, you know, the next Ronda Rousey, so who is the appropriate model for you is John Jones yesterday trying to beat them. But is that from a professional standpoint forget some of the issues, he's add? But just the in cage stuff, the accomplishments is that who you're modeling yourself. After like when you look to somebody for a kind of path who is it? I I don't know if I have a civic one, I couldn't give you an answer because there's so many athletes that their styles are amazing. You know, Dmitri's John's has a great style. The all fight anyone anytime anywhere from cowboy John Jones in his ability to maximize his range and his his style and the youngest fighter. Rhonda's confidence in herself. Like, there's so many bits and pieces that I study a lot of people. And and and I don't study their fighting style study their mindset, and and all of that. And and there are good things, and there are bad things. And I try to take away from all of them. So if I'm trying to model myself after any of it's a it's a it's almost like I'm trying to take a piece from everyone in the sport. I try to take something good would is one thing that fighters at your stage of career get wrong that you know, you should not do. The and I think in their career. So you're seventy. I feel like they get a little excited about the success and about the how ably just just get caught up in the success. And the all look at me, I'm finally making money, and I'm and I'm right on that of that. You know, I don't I'm not the kind of person that you know, as I start making making an having more success. And I'm just gonna try to take into like. All right. Let's go. Let's go buy a new car. That's go by this. And I don't know if that's what every every athlete does. But I know that that's what something some young young people do especially guys, and they kind of get, you know, caught up in that of like, oh, I need to do this and this and this or the fame or for the, but honestly, you know, I know that the fame is gonna come and the and the success is gonna come from there. But I mean thing is, you know, taking taking what I make and taking on the success and and returning putting it back into the Bank of okay, I need to go and elevate this I need to change this in the training camp. I need to in. In made my camp a little bit smoother because as good as my camp was it can be way better than than it than it was. So I feel like I'm almost an extreme opposite of you know, I don't wanna take time off. I don't want to take a week off. I want to go on vacation. I just wanna go, and I wanna make I wrote down notes of you know, we need to fix this and the campus and the camping and talking about this and just just ways to elevate. So I feel like everyone's like, oh, I need a break. You know, they're like I spent the entire camp, and I just wanted to chill gone vacation. And I feel like that's that's the thing. I'm a little bit different on because I suppose. Because I spoke to Israel out of song yet right in in one year's time. So from February eleven to the next February eleven the dude had what five fights. He won them all the crazy level of activity is that what you're going for. Yeah. I feel like the more active. You are the more the more. The the fact of the success is gonna come. And it also helps you mentally to stay there. You know, when you're when you're consistently in the gym when you're consistently it's hard to fall off track. You know, when you're around the people that that know where you're going if you have a goal, and you set it in and near motivated person, you can't let yourself get get sidetracked. And and what you're trying to go after and it's time, it's time critical sport. You know, we can't just. We can't just take these fights. And and and go slow and go through our career because injuries are real. And you know, if you take a fight and you fight once, and then you get injured will you can't fight those five fight. So if as long as you're healthy, I feel like the more you they can suspend fighting. You're you're maximizing your time in the ring. Because at some point you never know if an injury is gonna come up or something that's gonna come up where you can't fight. So as long as you're healthy, you should just do it. Do you? How much does each fight? You've only had two you have seen. We'll be at the data what using a contender series, but to official you have see cards. Yeah. Right. So here's the deal. Are you feeling the increasing weight of things yet? Or are they still relatively these are still relatively modest growth periods? I I don't think I feel like the way if you're meaning like pressure like in terms of that. I definitely take a lot more too. So I think the for the first time the super serious don't get me wrong. But I feel like as each one comes I will get more and more in tune to what I need to do and and a little more focused on. Okay. I'll put a little up a little bit more. Like, I'm I'm a little less energetic. And in some areas, they're all need to breathe a little bit more. But it's mainly 'cause I'm just trying to keep a level head for the fight. You know, I just know. Okay. I can't get my nerves up here. I need to get it up here. I can't get my my excitement up here. Need to get an up here. I need to save this for this time in place in the camp. And just just figuring out the timing of when to let it happen. So that I think that's the only thing that I've learned that I need to continue to change as this career goes on. One year from now, what are we talking about for your career? What will have happened? Imagine. This is the next Monday one year from today. Right. What's the headline on enemy fighting dot com? Wow. One year from today. I will be almost twenty two, and I will be I will definitely be in the area for that title fight sometime within that year for sure. So so that's something that'll be probably popping up at some point. If not maybe maybe not I don't I'm not trying to rush title shot at all. I'd like to continue to keep the success. But I still have the two almost three years. And yeah. Looking to fight on international fight week. Like target me. Your next position on the calendar. I am I would like to international fight week in in July. Now when that would be I don't know what part of the weaker where for the opponent. I don't know yet. I just got out here to various actually. So I got here last night and gonna send a week out here talk with everyone do some medical stuff in and figure it out from there. The all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm headed there in like ten minutes. Well, look at that, not not no rest for the weary. Well, I'll tell you what that was a real important win showed a lot of grit showed a lot of ability, and you're on your way. Congratulations. It can't wait to see what you guys have store next. So again. I appreciate your time. You guys do you do great job. The humane fun. Thank you. All right there. She goes would we have Kevin Leon Scaife? What do we have them? I think we have almost gap right? All right. Let's go back. Everyone's Cup today. I can't believe this. This is what do I have the honor? Let's go. This is one of my favorite interviews in the sport independent of weight class. This guy is jumping up speaking of wake lasts two welterweight. He's gonna fight. Huff L dose on juice. Let's go to him. Now. The Motown Motown phenom here Kevin Li hi, Kevin. How are you? Was going on long him. I'm good man longtime, no speak. How have you been since? The I went to fight. You know move. Everything's starting to fall back into place is like the perfect time for me to get ready to go back into a training camp. You know, everything else in my life outside of it is is starting to finally come around. So I'm excited about this. It was one that I've been I've been kind of like hesitant about moving up to one seventy. But now seeing like, especially how the rest of the division is looking. I'm fucking excited. All right. So what was the impetus? What finally made you say, you know, what man F this lightweight nonsense? I'm gonna go to welterweight was the opponent, the timing as you mentioned some of the other people with give me the explanation. Really? Honestly, it was the timing. I just wanted to fight. It didn't matter who. But was when when it was what made class any of that I needed to fight and everybody kept playing games once eighty five I kept offering myself to guys they've away lower in the ranking seventy guys never completely on ring. You know, they approach with the fight in in. You know, nobody would nobody would accept. So we ended up finding RDA out there. He already has already fought the who's who of of anybody. So you know, he he accepted without a any hesitations. I'm not okay coup. Anyway, I come in at about one seventy eight one seventy nine on fight weeks. Even when I'm cutting down to one fifty five. So, you know, I'm excited to see how this this this way cut has gone go and how much different I'm feel stepping into the cage and like a little bit more fool energy full of strength. Let's rewind if we can before we talk about the step ahead. I want to talk about the step behind. There were a lot of things that went well for you in the quantified, obviously didn't go your way in the end. Looking back on it. How do you feel about it? You know, I I take it as a learning experience. That's all I really can't do I think still approach that fight pretty wrong. I think there was some things that that needed it in my corner, especially I think if the corner worked in in in a way approach the specially those those last two rounds would have been different than than that fight would have been a completely different. But I take it as a learning experience. That's that's really all it is especially when against a guy out. You know, he's he's he he's gonna keep pushing. You know, I the problem is I didn't see him as much of a threat as big of a threat as I should have. And you know, that that that's just one thing that you you learn through experience in his game and by continuing to fight and continuing to get these these types of opponents so the overall, and I'm not really like happy with it. Obviously. I mean, I is it is what it is. I didn't really even boss the fight since since it. I'll probably watch it in a little bit just to get a better understanding of everything, but you know. It is what it is. Right. So you're switching up your corner. Yeah. I'm I'm removing a guy that I that I had in in before. But most of these switch in the way that we're going to approach in our in our communication, and just you know, because this is fighting is very personal. It's not like a I it's not like any other sports in me. So, you know, when when I need to be told certain shit in the corner, especially when the time are real tough. Then you know, my corner needs to know like only hit and just tell me in. I'm not wanting to really like spare Phyllis anyway. And I felt like they were trying to like, you know, plan me a little bit. So, you know, sometimes I just need to be told straight. Like, hey, look, get your shit together. Like, let's pull this out. You know in the new bitch amount about it later. And I felt like, you know, maybe they didn't do that and need to make the adjustments. And it's meat. So that they need to make adjustments for myself and be able to see those things how hard is it to get into that kind of trust and understanding with a corner where they know what do. Works. Well for you. When what doesn't? I mean, it takes years in in. It's you know, because you have so many guys than the foreigner to it's it's about how each of their energy feeds off of each other. So it takes a long time to get that bond in that in that that relationship going in that many fights, and you, you know, sometimes you just gotta go through those little those little hiccups here and there, but you learn from it, you get better as a, you know, even us there's a totally individual is still kind of t- sport. And it's still kind of you know, we all kind of learned at the same time. So it takes years, and and that's just that's just what it is. That's the game. You know, I'm still real young sport at still learning a lot about it. I feel like on up to one seventy is going to be huge in me in in in in keeping that same energy in those last couple rounds. And then keep it, my my mind completely clear. So we'll see how does things I got one seventy isn't a bit of a shake-up scenario. Right. Because you just had you just saw what for hey Masset. All did you just saw what Pettus did the champ just lost? The whole thing is being shaken up is that. Part of the reason why your it's like, double Dutch you ever seen the girls do double Dutch, and they got the ropes going. You gotta find your time. And you just gotta get in there. The right moment, you know. Yeah. I mean, I even was kind of looking at it. I approached this fight before any of that even half it. And you know that okay. Yeah. Sure. I'm up in in just kind of do my thing because I wanted to fight e anyway, and then I was going to of see how it was gonna go. That thing that always kinda made me hesitant about moving to one seventy is one fifty five had the bigger fights. You know could be was out there. I and that was kinda defied that I really was pushing for. But when whose men beat Woodley that kind of shook everything up, so you know, I'm only focused on one man at a time. You know, RDA is really somebody. I can't look through is he somebody that that is definitely going to get my full attention. But after this fi, I is giving me a little bit of excitement is giving me a little bit of like, you know, pepper must step in the morning. I'm like, okay. Well, you know, we got some fresh blood in here. So I'm here to shake. I'm here to section even a little bit. Okay. So there's a few questions here about welterweight. First of all, what is your walking around way? Like today. What are you? I'm about one eighty one. So, you know, normally this is, you know, I I usually much heavier, but I've been about one eighty one eighty one of pass like year year and a half dinner are so you'll be fair to say you'll be on the smaller end of welterweight. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, when I look at other guys may maybe, but you know, PETA's just show to nice this last Saturday, you know, sometimes that size. Really don't matter. You know, especially if you when you talk about speed and durability that size necessarily. I mean, I feel like technique a lot of these guys, you know, when when I see even a lot of wrestling at once seventy it's like a lot of it's very basic. So I feel like technique speed and a dirt -bility will outlast us. Right. I mean, I'll I'll let you know after after may eighteen and how it although down I'm kind of figuring out witching. Here's what's weird about this whole thing as did you watch the Garcia, Spence boxing match. If course, of course. Yeah. So I'm watching you got monkey Garcia who was a hell of a boxer and an amazing technician. And okay, Spence. My just be one of the best boxers we have right now. But there was such a clear difference in power. Now, you do see fighters like pack, yo who collect a bunch of way belts, or may weather, but those are like all time greats. It seems to me in MMA man, you can jump up fifteen pounds and make a splash pretty quickly. Why is that? I think it's just because it's so much other things in it. You know, I it's it's it's more of a complete art, whereas boxing is is is you know, it's a science. So there was no way to you know, there's only so many places that you can go in boxing. You know, mighty are trying to fight him on the outside was getting killed just because Spence with so much longer and eat, and you know, you stone at such straight punches and knew how to move in and also will. But then he was killing him on the inside to and really in in boxing. You know, you really only got three four areas that you could find a guy in and and spent just outclassed everyone of those areas was opposed to Emma may I mean, you could find a guy in twelve thirteen different areas. Maybe so I I think that might be the difference and smaller guys at have more. You know, we we spend more time on the technique, and because because you kind of have to you gotta you going against heavier guys, you're gonna get guys where you gotta use the leverage. And you gotta use the technique behind. Whereas maybe bigger guys. I don't I don't know. I mean in that fight in particular. I mean Garcia just is standing chance he just he was getting out west front from start to finish. But in a mate that would have been a different show. It would have been you know, Garcia could ahead. A couple more weapons to use to wear some in the middle rounds. Okay. This ain't working. We can go to some notes. So, you know, I think that's that. That's where the biggest difference. I think that's why in maze a little bit more exciting to actually pretty good explanation. All right. So let me ask you some of the things I have been watching your career for a long time at this point. And I can't quite tell what posture mentally you have to adopt for success because sometimes I see you come out super aggro F, this F that go and just dominate a guy. Right. But then other times, I say, adopt a posture, and it doesn't feel so great. And then sometimes I see you take a humility. And then you go in dominate have you figured out where you need to be in a competitive mind space to be your best. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I I see the same thing that you say, so I don't know. I kinda just I kind of just go with the winner not kind of you know, I listened to the universe. And I just I did it go where the tells me to go, and I feel like, you know, even when I lose I'll still win. So I really don't, you know, don't be no skin off my teeth. Really? I just I I think that's just kinda what life is. It's you know, I I changed from fight to fight h fight is completely different. But then I feel like I changed day-to-day through in in in my approach that certain things, and I just don't go with you on. I'm one I'm not one necessarily to to kind of hide that fat and that hired from what I see is the truth. So I just go out, you know. And I don't know if I feel like talking some shape of some sort if I don't I'm not, and I don't really like, you know, I I think people have a different idea that that I like plan these things or or while I'm thinking about it or. Or I'm sitting through like now, I'm just kind of go with all field. And I'm gonna take whatever energy that that that other people give me so I'm gonna take whatever energy RDA's don't give me we go on on on sale. I'm leaving here from Michigan over to New York on Thursday for the on sale. Saw Masih RDA there on the see what type of energy give me if he give me some in. If you give me something to play with that we can play if you want to be cool and be you know, we we we can play that role to we can play a humble who wrote. So so I don't know. We'll we'll see. Let's talk about RDA, isn't it that folds over into the fight. Sure. Let's talk about him as a competitor for second. He's a guy who he is. He's had some upset some downs. But he has the toughest of the tough and can kind of do it all, but you still on the loose men fighting that Lisbon is a monster welterweight. Okay. But there have been some wrestling shortcomings. I'm wondering we've if you have identified those as well. Yeah. I mean, I I've seen a couple of things, you know, I've been watching a lot of film on him. He's got a lot of film out there. He's got a lot of fights, especially in the UFC. So so, you know, break it down the film with I mean, it's been fun. They're they're the couple things in there that that I see is being some some some places that I could take advantage. But I'm definitely not. I mean, RDA can't be somebody that you underestimate. You know, he's fought way bigger guys. He's fought smaller guys. He's fought a lot of south ball's a lot of orthodox guess, he's a lot of people and is never out of a fight. You know, nobody's ever even in the fight with who's been, you know, RDA had moments in there to where he he's not gonna get completely dominated so fight. Like this really kind of get me up. I think these are the type of fights that that I love that. You know are the big challenges in. You speak on the the I quit the fighting just to go back. And I'm like, I didn't see him as big of a threat to me. But RDA is you know, RDA somebody. I if you give him the moment, it don't matter if he's lost three four in a row it he'll come out and he'll put the lights out. So you know, I gotta make sure I'm on my Ps and qs the entire time. And and and and that kind of excites me a little bit so him, competitor wise RDA is definitely up there with the top. I mean, he's ranked in the top five of two different weight. Classes full reason have you given up hope on 165 happening anytime soon. Yeah. Man. I don't know. I'm gonna let you know. Aspirin is out there doing my mom. My dirty work for me. Not. So I'm gonna ask her see if he can get in Dana his head a little bit in in making some noise about it. But you know, I ain't gonna keep beating a dead horse. And just know when when it comes it's it's not even a matter of if it's a matter of win win. It comes just no I'm in there. And and I'm always going to be the top dog. So I'm unless somebody's other guys kind of do do determine. Yeah. There's a lot of tripping out there. So the good news is you can tack team. They can they can take over for the moment. Let's talk about lightweight for a second. Man. It's you know, you're going to welterweight as that you mentioned aspirin. There's another new addition to the whole situation that's changing things up but lightweight the top of it's a bit of a mess. We don't really know. What's going to happen with be you got poor area in max, which is a great five. But we don't know what's gonna happen with max featherweight. And then you've got Tony who obviously is having some legitimate real life struggles. I don't want to you know, I want to be respectful of those. You know, it's like, yeah. Like, what do you make of the division right now? It's. Marky division. But you can't really showcase really a lot of parts of it. Yanno a lot of the kind of wish stagnant y y which is a real shame. Like, you say, I mean, it's it's always been wanted the best divisions in a UFC there. There's just so many up since so many questions in you know, and part of me was like, you know, this where this is where I said I wanted to be in this where I started wearing I'm finished, especially with fighting the B. But when I looked at it. I'm like, okay. What am I I'm not gonna sit around and wait for these other guys that fight and and and try, and you know, it's too many politics going on. And like you said max is now fighting Dustin. You know, Tony sitting out which I'm sad about that whole situation, and you know, all these other things and nobody wants to fight and guys on they want like these certain fights just a plus a Muffin Connors kind of call an a shot still. And I'm like, you know, fuck this. I'm you know, I'm mostly worried about me any way to me. I'm the top dog. So I is was best for my career in bowl four. Th those fights are still going to be out there. I still. Am one hundred percent confident I could make one fifty five again. But you know, we'll see at the at their. I preferred this by one seventy one fifty five is, you know, they need to get together. That's all I think I think it'll come together towards the end of this year. But you know, I wasn't about to sit around and wait for would you be willing to go back and forth. I mean, what we see what this whole how how shake up, you know, you got like you say, you got a pet isn't great Mazda. Look great on you still got asked her out there. You got positive. Yo you got Liane Edwards in Saint Louis, MS Natalie champ. So, you know, mama Lutely warmed them. So I'm here I'm coming from. So I don't know. We'll see we'll see isn't that the been it's been nothing, but respect between it, and I'm kinda wanna steal, you know, I wanna honored it. But as a as a competitor, I got an I'm probably going to be on his heels. We'll see was he. Yeah. That's an interesting way to put it. How long have you been Kamara by the way? It's been a couple of years. You know, there are certain guys that that like right out the gate, you kinda you kinda make notice, and we kind of both, you know, kind of did the double take at each other at the same time. I wanna say I'm not I I was at his fight with RDA. But I met, oh, maybe like two years before that, you know, he he's been in and out of training. And you know, I'm kind of seeing that agenda. There's just certain guys that you you just kinda know isn't competitive like, okay? You know, we we go, but you know. Okay. You see me? You know, you've got that. Look like, I say, you you see me. So, you know, we'll see. All right. Let's ask about you hear one more time. So you got this far with RDA coming up in may jumping up a new weight class coming off of that loss making some changes in the corner. So are you in a rebound period? Are you on a growth period? Are you in a no label period? When you think about what this what this next fight is about. And what it says about you? What what what is it? It's breath. If I had to put, you know, those words on it. I would be more more more likely to say no label just because you know, I it is so hard to to to to to get grip on it. But you know, for me girl, and is going to be showing, you know, regardless of what happened the regardless of of how life don't any. I'm keep coming back, and I'm gonna get stronger. So that's all that. I think that people are really excited to see me fight either way, you know, as soon as this fight was acknowledged, I've got more buzz about this. When the any other fighting including the title fight before. So I think you know, it's about me coming back and just showing you know, that that I'm still all your that. I'm still, you know, still just as strong even stronger than before. And and especially with the right mental space. There's not going to be a man that can stop me. So, you know, I I kinda wanna do if a full for everybody else to you know, I I did something a little bit on on on Instagram on a really talk too much on air. But you know. Sometimes I I kind of want to shed some light on some real issues real things Instagram be so much about you know, putting out there with what you want people to see to make us look good. And all that, you know, but I've been doing this with some stuff personally with my brother, my youngest brother being in jail. I've got two two brothers. I'm out here in Michigan right now. The the my middle, brother. He's getting ready to fight which I'm I'm super proud of him. He's ready to fight on Wednesday. We which is gonna put some new life into me. But my youngest is kind of going through those little trials and tribulations. So you know, I'm gonna make sure that that I put on for him. Do this fight. Right. And make sure that everybody see, you know, it's still a really bright future out there. No matter what happens so just real quickly. Did you relocate to Michigan? Or are you there just to deal with this particular episode? No, I'm there just to deal with just deal with this. I'm only your for three days, and then I'm Shay back tomatoes. I just got here yesterday, I leave on Thursday and then back tomatoes. Well, you know, what you have made something of yourself. And I know it's just the beginning. There's a lot more head including dont. Joe's fight last question for you. Fighting on streaming service petty feel about that. Yeah. I don't know is. No, I, you know, I I think it's something that was comment is on that. They should they should go all the way in on. You know, they they already offered like the paper views, you can only buy them through through ESPN. Plus, I think you look at it like that does own, you know, they they do it without having to buy the pay per view. So they should just go all the end on it. I think it'd be a better it'd be better for everybody. It'd be better for us fighters too. Because, you know, pay per view is starting to kind of die off. You know, you really only get knows those really really big pay per view. And I felt like, you know, they use those numbers to kind of hold against ago when it comes time to negotiate and you're not really seeing are true negotiation power as fighters, you know, sometimes I feel like they they hold that against certain champions. Who only you know, you only sell x amount of paper views, but it's like, you know, Diane, Diane medium, so we can use these streaming services in. You know, I think that could be a little better for everybody. If they get it. Right. They just got to get it. Right. So I mean, I don't know that any my job. I lead to do the UFC is great. They do what they do. They've been taught footer for a very long time for reason. So you know, I kind of go with the flow. All right. Well, I can't wait to see your next fight. This'll be may eighteenth at the Blue Cross arena in Rochester, New York, newly minted welterweight Kevin Lee looking forward to seeing him out Vietnam. Now destroy you better. You you can't wait what? Thank you so much given there you go. One of my favorite interviews. All right. Let's go this gentleman next. We have him on Skype as well. I can't believe we have everyone on Skype flag. Hittin- green lights every time. You drive down the road. You can't believe it. All right. So this gentleman had a great fighter UFC London. But a lot of different questions swirling about things that happened before this happen afterwards. So we thought we'd get them onto. So we can get some answers to them. We are joined now by Jack Marsh, Mun, let's go to in here on Skype there. Yeah. Jack. You're right. Yeah. You those are some those are some well, quaffed eyebrows. Yeah. Trying to look after. All right, man. So let's let's talk just a little bit. If you may not know much about me. And that's okay. If you don't I also served in the American military. So part of the reason why I wanted to have you wanted it was because I felt like I have always a little bit more of a connection to fighters who either have served or do serve just to set the context here. So you one you have see London yet. A great win you beat John Phillips. It was a close fight in the end, but you certainly one and then this news broke that you had not told you are command that you were leaving to go do it. And and but you still want so talk to me what happened after the fight. It was it was shortly. Have a little bit different. They. Offering on new knew that I was fight and. And e- e it, basically. Okay. But it came from above him that it wasn't allowed to fight. And they try to basically the day. I was going to fight week on the Tuesday. Text message off my Yossi motel ABI that it wasn't going to be fighting in. So there's like. Night. So sorry about that. Ring me off wasn't fight in a I just went with it. Anyway. Can you put your camera down just a little bit as good as those? I there it is. Yeah. All right. Very good. Very good. Okay. So what would you got back to are you stationed active duty somewhere like what happened? Yeah. I'm I mean. In Colchester right now on on my com- Shah. They I go I actually go a disciplinary over fight in on the weekend too. Which is ridiculous thing. Did they take your pay? Did they do anything like that? I got I got an guy which is like a like a full moon. One year you cle- discharged from now on me. Whoa. Whoa. Oh, I'm I'm leaving. Anyway, I've I've give us s because. On the full of November my twelve year point. So that's me signing off now. So you decided to leave the mill. Are you deciding to get out of the military for what reason? I can can you fight. I've been doing this for twelve years. I'm fighting a really I level. You're not I've made it to the UFC. I've just been offered a new contract, and he's go really far, but the minute my. My job is soldier professional soldier this. I'm no, I'm not trained in the same ways. As everyone else, you know. So okay. So you've been doing record of twenty three and eight. So like how much do you think? Like, I was in the military to as I mentioned, there are a lot of great things about it. There were a lot of things. I hated about if I can just be candid and only service members really understand that. So. Sure, it's been good for you. If you've been there for twelve years, but you're saying it's really impacted your training. Yeah. Cool. That's what I'm saying. They Sam exactly how you explain it. Then some really great parts of the army that you know, I can't train with boxing team quite a lot and I'll be working away and stuff like that. But then he's other things way. I'll go on six weeks exercise or something, you know, I won't train six weeks solid. You know, because I'm doing other things is is. An NFC. The FOX have like, active tours and stuff like six seven months the time. You know, getting any training out day, you know, so it is definitely impacted my train in. So in the in the in the UK, you can give a notice of a year, and then you can get out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you to a minimum of three years, and then after you've done after three years at any point than you couldn't sign off which gives you a you intend to leave. But I wanted to wait for a twelve year point gap. My Hof pension. Man. They don't do that. In the American military you sign up for four Bucko you are in for four. They don't let you get out after your. That's pretty cool, actually. Yeah. Now, what do you do in the military? I'm apart Rupa infantry. Oh, you're a grunt. Yeah. What did you just you jump out of the planes? Yeah. The my my I nine times I have stepped on a plane jumped out and then a ten semi going to play enough flute Afghan. So it's pretty pretty shit plane journeys you have not had enjoyable plan rides. Now, how many times have you been deployed? I've done two tours of Afganistan. How was that? Pretty. Well. Well, we join for really. I especially I to a when young you voted ends when she got her message and stuff on my second to it's bit is a bit odd. But but yeah is joined Gami too. So I love it, really. Now, we're you in MMA before you got into the military or what did it happen while you were in? No, I had a coupla damage fights just before I joined down me an just. I just pursued it I boxed for the army for a long time. So see mainly we're gonna minds and again today, and then all of a sudden, I am a Mesa taken off. And I take him more fights and stuff. So. Just went from they now when you fought at London, I guess, which aired on BT sport. And all that when you came back did all of the other servicemembers you work with where they give you high five and back slaps. Yeah, they love they love it. They've they've been supporting me for years as in own the Ola, Ola blocks that I work with they they tune up to. Hold on my fights the country, and they love it. I got a massive support from the from the army. You know? Here's this weird. Tim kennedy? I'm sure you knew he was when he was fighting here. Now, he he had something called the world class athlete program. But the American army has a division where they can let you do what you do and you can go and fight. And you just represent the military. Does the UK not have anything like that? They do. But as we stuck in pasta M is not a recognized sport. Now, if I was just doing balks in if I was boxing as a professional boxer. I I feel not professional athletes contract, but MMA is no recognized because they haven't got the the governing bodies and stuff over. You're the same. So it's really if in five years time, I probably be all I feel not athletes program for the rest of my time and Yami. But would you spent stuck in the pasta Lovie at to be honest with so so for example, if you're like a super high level box or you'd probably be fine. Yeah. Yeah. The British fishing team. You know? Any sport? You can actually think of the they've they've got a sport. But they haven't got an eighteen which is ridiculous. You know, it's the fastest growing sport. That is have you ever talked to any of your central command about establishing something? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've tried. I've tried and these folks, but at night, they come back with these like crazy rule set of may, which is like ridiculous is basically like some taekwondo. Thank you. They like I said it's a bunch of. Old guys that don't fully understand the new coming through. Like, I said they got they got team for everything you can think of now me, and they support them we go like I I'm in. I'm in the battalion, partial regiment, we've all we've got an Olympic bobsleigh as and stuff like that in our in our battalions, a NATO fine. But, you know, fighting in the UFC for them don't don't mean. Nothing crazy, by the way. What is the relationship of what's up of disconnection, you still there, Jack? We lose them froze. Oh, the magic. I'll I know we were going to have one of these. I know I knew it was inevitable. We're gonna try call them back. And we're talking about a couple more questions for him. Do that is terrible. Think about that, man. The United States army there. The the the people who established are obviously army combative Brian stand. You can ask him about it. I trained a little bit to the ring court martial arts program. It's not nearly as good as army combat is much more hierarchical, and there's a real curriculum to it Rinker martial arts programs. Just a bunch of grunts fist fighting in the backyard, but plus l'amour net, but you know, it's not as developed a program. But the point being is if you were a high level, you know, UFC level fighter in either of those services chances are you would probably get some kind of accommodation for it. And there's no Garin guarantee Tim Kennedy with special forces level. So he gets obviously a lot of extra consideration that the average grunt might not. But if you're paratrooper like that's pretty good, man. That's pretty high level. So dagger man that is really unfortunate. So now he has to be in a position where he has to like. Jettison in MMA career or? Or fight aren't going back. One more time got a couple more questions for him. Jackie there, bud. Yeah. There is sorry about that. Just a couple more questions for it. I appreciate your time. Did you see this? Did you see this note that Darren till put out on social media about you? Yeah. She replied. What did you make of it? Yeah, treaty. The thing, you know, old fight fight is been so he's every going to have to, but I can fully understand all we go through. So. Right on are all end on this one. So you're in the army, right? The British army. Yeah. So how much better are the Royal Marines than the British army? Be ridiculous. What are you reading you? See? There was one. Oh, he he he's he's no longer in there. But he did come through the bald guy. Forget his name. I'm in. Maybe that's it. Yeah. Evan on find that. Maybe he got it on. He's only one made it though. So what job you're a credit to the the military? Your credits m I'm sorry for some of the troubles you've gone through. But you know, you're you're doing great things one way or the other. And we really appreciate your time, Jack. Thanks very much. Yes, sir. I would say he's army. So I'll just say what did they say in the army hula? Say other made up words someone that. But that sucks man, you'd be in a position like that where you know. Make a choice between things you love twelve years in the military and walking away. So long time man, it's a long time not very fair. Unfortunately, I think it was going to end the show here. So let's do this. Let me just say thank you to everyone who watched today. Listen to the podcast subscribe to the channel. Thank you guys so much for watching keeps them in those tweets us Nash, tag, the MA. Our keep calling eight four four eight six six two four six eight. And until next time stay frosty.

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The A-Side Live Chat | Urijah Faber & Germaine de Randamies KO wins, Bellator Featherweight Grand Prix, Next Opponent for Henry Cejudo, More

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The A-Side Live Chat | Urijah Faber & Germaine de Randamies KO wins, Bellator Featherweight Grand Prix, Next Opponent for Henry Cejudo, More

"You're listening to Fox media network. What's up universe Jose young here with 'em fighting DOT COM for another episode of a side live chat on as I said may find dot com not in my normal spot? I'm not I am on the road. I'm not at fight night or whatever it's I'm in the beautiful overcast Los Angeles but I'm GonNa go to ballots or media day later today and then tomorrow is. I believe that's always luncheon so I'm here in Los Angeles. I'm using video for extraordinarily Casey lied in Beautiful Camera. Which is why actually look semi presentable this time but this week making his debut on the side <hes>? I've been asked this every week literally every single week. It's either wins P._C.. Coming back on and when is Danny Cigar GonNa make his as I live jet that week is today Danny what's up man. Thanks for having me on <hes>. The people got what they wanted. They asked you you. I shall receive so you're I am. They missed you. They missed your beautiful face on Mondays and on the beat so since obviously that is a process where working on <hes> but I've been asked every week since I took this over one is Danny GonNa come on when his Pizza GonNa come on fees on Danny's so you guys got both of your wishes on both of your guests hosts <hes> really excited to have Danny on. I'm sure he's going to be on a million times so but without further ado we're going to jump into your questions and as you guys know <hes> <hes> put your comments in the comments section you can use go on twitter use Hashtag the side and will look for your questions. We might do a little bit different this time because we have a lot of questions and we're definitely not going to get all of them. A lot of them have been greened recommended. Whatever you WANNA call them so we're going to be? We're going to have to bounce around a lot because we're definitely not gonna hit all of them this week but <hes> right off the Bat Danny China's ban on people who have tattoos now that fighters fighting in China must cover up their tattoos. How will this affect the A._F._C.? Won Shame should've been other organizations from doing fights in China also with the U._N._C. sets go to China soon. How does this affect how they put a fight card together a like to hear your opinion on the topic so yes Danny I don't know if you heard by China China? <hes> has this law regulation. I don't know the exact terminology where they don't want <hes> actors or anyone with tattoos or quote unquote hip hop culture on their television. It's not specifically aimed at enemy fighters wires. I just think it's abroad like tattoos. I also I haven't looked too deep into it but I read the wording of the actual law and it seems to be they don't want them broadcast in China so you say just drown Wiley Zhang fight on the upcoming card in China. I don't know if it'll be broadcast in China if that makes sense but we'll be able to see here. I just don't know if they can. I don't know of just GONNA drives can be on television in China and I I. I know a lot of fighters over. They will have to wear rash guards to cover up their cover up their tests. I don't know if that's going to happen. This is a fairly new development in to me but <hes> what is your opinion on if these fighters might not be able to fight in a market that they're really trying to break into well. That's another excuse for the U._S._C. to start skipping contenders. You don't have tattoos are I will. You're fighting for the title next no but in all seriousness <hes> is it only for television television broadcasts or what about streaming that that's a good question. That is an excellent question. I don't know I don't know how China uses streaming because I know like the U._k.. They they'd have like a different streaming service for the U. OF C. They have B._T.. Sports there's Fight T._v.. The and E._S._P._N.. Plaza and all that stuff that's an excellent question that they don't have the answer to yeah. I guess you know that that's going to be another hurdle you if she's going to have to deal with if they plan to have events in China <hes> usually whenever they go to somewhere outside the the U._S. with the U._S.. They try to have local fighters on the cart obviously to sell taking and whatnot <hes> from from what I remember you know in. This is just me generalizing a lot of Chinese fighters. Don't have that many tattoos so I guess you know that that's a plus but when you bring in guys over or girls that have tattoos. I guess that'll be an issue but as long as it's not broadcasting. I'm guessing they're good. I know for example Japan. I think Joe Rogan talked about this a while ago like hugh staff to wear long sleeves and corrupt his tattoos because tattoos are often seen as as an entitled with the Yakuza and seen as sort of like a gangster thing to it <hes> so I guess just another hurdle the use he's going to have to deal with and yet but as long as I can they put on the right fights it's they they will continue to go to China and I a hundred percent it will be difficult. Say like widely Zhang is fighting say this fight wasn't happening in China it was happening in on the Newark Cards say widely James Fighting Jessica androgen Newark and they I really want to use widely Zhang is like the face of their new Chinese market but they they can't show her fight because she's fighting someone with tattoos that to me would be the most detrimental like it will be very interesting to see if the U._S.. He does move forward saying say Wiley. Zhang does win be just gone garage and now they have a Chinese champion but they can't show her fights in China like I don't I guess another requirement for a contender. Is You know gotTa have I laser removal and I believe a lot of them were rash guards and when they do fight in China by I don't like I was like you have see if you don't WanNa wear rash guard. You're not a rash guard but like just GonNa draw tattoos but I don't believe rose has tattoos. I don't believe you'll WANNA has tattoos news <hes> but there's a lot of strawweights <hes> that have tattoos and that division and I'm sure we're GonNa talk about later but that division is unbelievable so I it's so good it's GonNa be it's GonNa be interesting to see moving forward award how they handle this but I don't have all the answers. I'm sure we'll talk about this later on but moving right along Danny from Clev- twenty one all in that first one I apologize I pronounce your name on it was zack coup co Keggi outs that are as that first question so I apologize if I pronounced your name Rock <hes> but from Club twenty-one pseudo stret- real simple who should slash deserves to get the next shot who and who will get the next shot at pseudo <hes> Dan you can start this one if you want a henry pseudo is a triple city but he is a champ champ is the U._F._C. Bantamweight and flyweight champion. There's a lot of fighters calling for his name <hes> but who who do you think deserves the first fight. Who Do you think we'll get the first fight tough question and <hes> I actually caught a lot of heat on twitter? Recently Algebra Sterling Lakewood tweeted me saying like get the fuck out <hes> and he was kind of a little bit upset. I guess at some of the things that I tweeted all I said was I was pretty clear my tweet yet people were kind of obviously just just taking out of context I literally I sentence I said was I'm not saying that I wanna see pseudo versus favor. I'm not saying that but what I am saying is that it's not a crazy idea now that he has a win over a ranked opponent <hes> I think I've always I've been on record and I told this to to sterling to. I replied to his tweet. I think he should get the next shot at one thirty five but that it doesn't necessarily mean he should get the next shot period. I think the next guy in line is Joseph Ben Evita's. That's the guy that the only guy the has a win over and that fight. I don't know if you guys remember it. <hes> it was a buildup for from a tough series so there it was a little bit of a rivalry there and I think that that's the time when Suharto was cringe but without without really I guess bringing it out to the world and Joseph Ben Evita's would just would just <hes> always burn them for that <hes>. It was actually really entertaining. Fido some controversy there. If you don't remember <hes> who got deducted a point I don't remember exactly for for what it was might have been a low kick. <hes> <hes> a low shot. I don't remember the details but yet he was deducted a point. I thought so Kudo <hes> probably had the better fight nonetheless Joseph one is still very competitive. I think he should get the next shot. I think there's a story line there. I think Henry's of who has the opportunity to defend the bell both weight classes something in your champ champs haven't been doing in the recent years and I think that will set them apart from any other chance. Amanda Nunes is currently a trying to attempt that <hes> but you know we saw her at one thirty five. We've yet to see her at one forty five. If a Huda can can can do that I think it will put put them apart from all the other champs and on top of that you know it's a fun fight. It's a fight that Joseph benefit deserves so I think he's the next in line who who do. I think we'll get it. I'm going to be optimistic and I'm an I'm GONNA say Joseph. Benedetto's Dana White recently recently came out in the Z and said Look I think Joseph innovators should get the next shy I think if Kudos able to defend the belt at both ways will keep one hundred twenty five pound division route so I think it's a it's a great idea but again this the same talking to t._m._z. where they just stick a camera in your face disaster questions on your side. Well yeah sure you know so. I don't know I think the favorite thing people are discarding it. People are saying it's crazy but I do think it's very possible I wouldn't would it. Look if tomorrow I wake up and open up twitter because as the first thing I do when I wake up I see favors getting the next title shot one thirty five Windsor Pricing. What is not one bit not even a little bit? I can't agree. I agree with everything. He said. If they announce your favorite was fighting Henderson who for one hundred thirty five pound title it would be the least shopping development it wouldn't. I won't say it won't it wouldn't bother me personally because I just like high level martial arts and that's like I liked that fight as a fight right but who deserves it. It's Josephine Evita's I spoke with Henderson Budo at the U._C.. Hall of fame ceremony on the red carpet and he told me that fight doesn't bother him at all like the first Dimitrius Johnson fight ate him alive and that made ate him obsessed but losing the Joseph Vitas didn't bother me. That was a three round fight so who knows what would have happened. 'cause I don't know if you remember that that main event I believe was Dimitrius Johnson. Tim Elliott Yawn that theme Clark and Joseph Benefactors will should've that was he'd had already gone against Dimitrius and so him fighting pseudo and winning anyone else doing that would have got on the next just happened to be of benefit as didn't deserve that that third fight but like you said Dana was on T._m._z. saying Joseph Ben Views. As we get the next title shot but Dan was also on T._M._Z. saying women will never fight in the A._F._C. and now the U._S.'s not for sale. That's crazy I mean there's a bigger chance in quarterback for what is it the Patriots Yeah so yeah so it should be just benefit as an remain sterling also said on twitter after Joseph Bien vitas one that he wouldn't have a problem if they gave Joe be he goes. I don't have a problem of job. Got The fight. If anyone deserves it over me it's him and now he he unquote tweeted article of Dana White saying Joe will probably get the next house shot or Hendrasto should fight a flyweight next and he said who should I fight for the interim title. That's a Alger May said so. I think he's trying to will this infantile intuit existence which just infuriated me because I hate but right away within seconds Peter Yawn quote tweeted it and he's just like I'm in now is like let's I'm in that fight. I love appearing on Algebra and certainly both bought it used to thirty radiate. They were both on that Chicago car the time line lines up. I think it's clear like those are the the next big contenders but then you're Ri- favorite comes and tells a wrench into that but if you're asking me personally I would like to watch Joseph Van Evita's fight Henderson who and I would like almonds strongest by appear young. That's my favorite scenario but your favorite is a wildcard in a very popular wildcard and all this chirping. They're doing on twitter. You know the U._S.'s Prot like they're definitely gauging. The interest in how people are taking the trash is trash. Talk on twitter so like you said would not surprise me if your favorite got yet another title fight yeah. It's it's it's not for Fitchet on people are saying. Are you delusional like you know he just came back from retirement but it's it's totally possible and actually I have one of my best friends he <hes> he works at the Guardian so the way his mind works is he's aware of everything news wise so he knows a lot about everything about sports a little bit about everything right but it's mostly what made headlines and I remember she came over the other day and I was watching <hes> some something about your favor because I had just interviewed him so I was writing a story <hes> and he goes oh that's right favor and I go <hes> yeah. That's your Kiro yeah no him he's old Riley. Alec is going back to fighting a one I give him the the quick update but vice who Algebra sterling is he doesn't know who that is advised them who Peter Yanni's. He doesn't know that his I've probably ask him. Henry Suharto is that champ champ probably doesn't know that he knows Araya favor though your fingers of big name and we've seen the U._S.'s time after time skip over you know deserving contenders over a guys that can sell sell pay-per-view in and that's your favor so correct me if I'm wrong but didn't brock listener fight for U._C.. Heavyweight everybody championship in his third fight there you go after beating the heavyweight title held hostage the last few months because we didn't know it was depending on whether brock lesser or not what will jump into sport you know so yeah. It's it's. It's ridiculous to think that your favorite wouldn't be at the end of the day. I always remind people this yeah. They are fighters but their prize fighters yet. I know our old colleague Luke a lot of heat for saying saying jail son was a good not great fighter. I think he was a great prize fighter because every fight he was in drew a lot of interest and he headlined or Komen invented everything he was in at from name Marquardt <unk> fight on pretty much it was jail son was a big deal on five parts might not have been the most skilled fighter but he was an unbelievable prizefight ourselves. If they're in the money making business your favorites the name name to go with I've just I don't personally want to see that a fight yet but yes moving off. God knows hey look if I wouldn't even be pissed. If you do Algebra sterling your favor for I love that yeah I think in term titles work when you have champ jumps that are willing to defend divisions in that case. I don't hate interim tests hundred percent by moving on another question from Club twenty-one <hes> recommended by our readers super fight. Do you think there's any chance we will see G._S._p.. Versus Habib and on the new U._C. Model E._S._p._N.. And with the new U._F._C. Model with E._S._p._N.. Are the days of super fights over now. I think that's that's a super fight like G._S._p.. Gone in a new way. Class is a super fight. Habib said that if he fights it's George saint-pierre he'd rat he would prefer to have it at one fifty five <hes> because it would be for the championship like if he moves up to one seventy and fights Georgia at a catchweight like it doesn't matter <hes> George is wants that fight. He says he can make fifty five because he was not only what five I ten five eleven he's not he's obviously huge because he fought a middleweight but if George can cut down to one fifty five I give him a title. He's one of the few fighters I give title shots who right away just because he's George saint-pierre but I don't see that happening anytime time soon Dana White Sprint pretty adamant that that fight like George retired because he he didn't get that fight so I personally don't see that happening anytime soon I'd rather see selfishly. I'd rather see Habib Fight Tony Ferguson I <hes> <hes> and then obviously the key the connery mass everyone's talking about but I think there's a lot of fights I'd see I'd rather see now rather than have George Napier comeback and kind of winning if he wins and then retires again. What was the point I mean? I don't think that fight will happen. I think if there was any time that it would have happened it would have been you know months ago. I mean the whole thing George Cimpian the U._F._C. didn't see eye to eye when it came down to negotiations because I'm sure if disappear in you know all all things would have been been equal to five p probably the summer right <hes> but the reason why didn't come down is because they didn't see eye to eye so that fight did not happen <hes> now at this point I believe Jefferson Perez out of the you saw pool right so for him to come back. It'll be another six months unless they wanted to brock listener situation just wave off the the six month period <hes> but the thing that this fight has going against that there's also several other super fights bites at one fifty five at this point you know a rematch with Conor McGregor would be the biggest fight may be in combat sports history. Maybe <hes> certainly the the biggest intimate for sure if you throw Tony Ferguson in there as well all of a sudden. I'm sure there's a lot out of interest there as well in the I would consider that a super far as well <hes> at this point and <hes> so yeah. There's still a lot of options in a lot of big fights at one fifty five that don't depend on Darshan pier so odds are that doesn't happen. I agree and I personally think if if Habib wins beads does emporia which I lean I favor Habib but it's it's the one hundred fifty five pound division is so chaotic like anything that happened. I think five between Habib versus Tony Ferguson Jason is a fight for the greatest lightweight of all time. The winner of that fight to me is the greatest one hundred fifty five pound m._M._a.. Fighter who's ever lived right now I kind of think B._J.. Penn by default based off his history but if you were to sit there and say I think Antonio Variations of the greatest lightweight ever I'd be like yeah all right that's totally fine with me and or if you sent Habib's the greatest I also agree with you. I think the winner that fight just settles it and to me that is a super fight. Tony Versus Habib is is one hundred percent super fight in my mind yes. It's a super I I. I think that question that fight Duffy answers the question of WHO's the best one hundred fifty five pound fighter ever undoubtedly defied answers as far as the greatest. I think a lot goes into achievement in despite Tony Ferguson already having being a a run that's worthy of being called a championship run like you could easily just you know <hes> going to Wikipedia page edited Tony Ferguson and just put him as champion and you look at his run and you go yeah that you'd believe even you'd like yeah. That's a championship run but obviously not having the bill I think in all those achievements you know <unk> Japan going up awake last winning also the welterweight title <hes> I think he's still the greatest if we're measuring achievement but as far as the best yeah Habib been in Tony Ferguson and are are the two best lights with lightweights and they've yet to fight so we don't really know who's the best but those are those two are and I'm on record saying that will never happen because I'm very much a believer in reverse psychology <hes> and if I say yeah that fight will eventually happen. I know it won't because we've been burned so many times so that fight will never happen because I'm very much in favor of reverse psychology Russia's kicking in just from you bringing this up. I remember we'll fight was it that they both actually weighed in and made it to weigh INS whatever card I remember watching those early morning as I roy tweet something like we had a very like it was a moment where it was just like wow. How amazing would it be if these needs to be fighting each other? Maybe it's one of those things that like just they'll never fight each other and then would just would just be what the what if but <hes> that'd be one of the biggest one of the biggest <hes>. I guess regrets M._M._A.. Regrets not not ever making defy puzzle using to twenty nine they both thought on the same hard and didn't fight each other which broke my heart but we're gonNA move right along <hes> hello listener. I'm Sean Rama's firm host of today explained vox the Daily News podcast every day Monday through Friday my team and I look at what's happening in the world we pick one essential news story that defines our moment and ask smart people to help us understand it in about twenty minutes or less. It's the perfect way to start her and your day subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP it's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network hi I'm Rachel truffle men and I'm the host of Nice. Try A podcast about utopia a place that is perfect and does not exist this season were traveling across time and space to explore seven different attempts to design a better the world what happens when those designs don't go according to plan from Jamestown the first permanent English settlement in North America and Levittown a series of suburban developments built in the nineteen fifties to shun sondergaard a modernist Indian city. That's also responsible for the chairs and Courtney Kardashians dining room and biosphere to an early nineties experiment that sought to create a completely enclosed self sustaining ecosystem and yeah some of them worked out better than others but they're all fascinating. Listen and subscribe to Nice try today on Apple podcasts on your favorite podcast APP from curbed and the VOX media podcast network. All right so I'll we can respond this from Millo of crying. He Croton I. He asked questions a lot and I never know how to pronounce his last but quote winter cotton. I apologize a guy just wondering if there's any new programming plan for Monday's Sundays now that the hour is gone. Thanks Hash Tag Free Pizza Carol. <hes> and I'm GonNa say the same thing I've said for the last six or seven weeks just stay tuned. I know everyone hates that but there's things in the works that we can't talk about yet but just stay tuned. I know Danny specifically. I'm sure that question is because you're on I'm sure as soon as people saw you are on that had a lot of questions about the enemy hour so if you want us anything go head yeah. I'll just CEOS <hes> you know there are things in the work. They are some <hes> ideas you know in the works right now a personally like I for the most part like when I hopped in pop done fighting like four years ago I was mainly just writing and doing a lot social media work and then once I moved up to New York and I started appearing on the beat in that I had the opportunity to work on the I really enjoyed working with video and it's something i WanNa do more often. It's something that this company values a lot because vox media is a digital company right so obviously videos huge for us so we are looking to create more video content <hes> in programming. That's something we're we're always going to going to be looking at. Obviously you know we've had a lot of people leave and there's been been a little bit of a shake-up in in things have been <hes> I guess a little hectic <hes> but you know what we are organizing we are. We have some things <hes> that we're putting together so <hes> just stay tuned yet. Just stay tune in more more content will be coming your way so Dan what daddy's answer. It was way better than my answer because I've said I can't tell you how many times I said stay tuned so at this point said hey stay tuned and and I know people like you've been saying that your aunt that listen to Danny. He knows what he's talking about. So I get asked about it on twitter like every day. I feel like I answer one thing and then the next day still the same question in I'm not a big social media guy anyway so <hes> yeah <hes> stuff's coming so just stay tuned so moving right along. I'm pretty excited about this one from lear on Ben Nara again I really apologize if I don't pronounce if I'm mispronouncing these hey guys ballots or featherweight Grand Prix for those of you who are want for those of you who are wondering how they pick. I throw mashes. It's by facial hair all right now for the serious stuff. WHO's a a one who's going to win? Worst is to best first round match up. I Dunno about worst because they're all like these are some high level. Fighters WanNa most aside for I'm really excited for Juan Patricio pit bull which is for the featherweight Jameson. Why don't you let it is like moving up because you're in you were at the New York fight one archer letterhead that lazy knockout Yup and he's with he said like I am the next contender for one thirty five but now he's <hes> I really liked Taiwan claxton like he's willing to have that crazy finding the knockout that made all the highlight reels? He's is a very interesting human. <hes> when I interviewed him in Chicago he was telling me that he had a job interview at Google to code and I was like why are you fighting like do that. Don't take brain damage like go code for Google <hes> so I like watching fight just because because essentially interesting guy yeah there's some super interesting fights. I don't know what the worst one is because I do like all these their names. I wish were in it. I know pizza carols probably really upset that arts and low Bob and Brennan Lockney aren't in it by payment file lost. They're going to feel that that's GonNa Golfing where deepens Herman. They're gonNA say guess what the championship is is no longer in the line. We got something you're better. That's what I lack week. Carol was like I want Artem Lova Brennan Analog Name and Pedro Carvalho Patriots value is obviously in it but I said I don't like Arima. Bob should not even be in the tournament. The winner should fight artem logo like is the the he's the final boss. I don't feel like they did with <hes> Stephon Bonner bringing home you know the the masked man and just unveil him arts lavas yearly this fight. I wanted to know seriousness in all seriousness this is. Is it a really exciting tournament. <hes> I'm really excited. This is just fun stuff. One matchup that I love is Pat curren versus Adam Adam boards knocked Iron Pico here New York just not so long ago in men interviewing him like he he just looked amazing <hes> and yet he's a fantastic fighter. Impact turn is is his experience as they come. This guy could easily be fighting in the U._F._C. for many years. I mean he's been high level for a very long time. <hes> so that's a fight that I'm really looking forward to <hes> but that's that's just personally those <unk>. A bunch of other great fights there to pick a worse. I think they're all Dan calls moving up from one thirty five to one forty five Henry Corrales on that knocked. He's in Pico so Aaron PECO's is not in it which I think a lot of people were surprised about but yeah good yeah. I think <hes> Scott said something I think speaking with. I don't remember all that will but I think he said something like. They want to take a step back from from PICO in. I think that's good. I think you know he needs tune up. Fights does need to be a tournament fighting the best featherweights on the planet the kids only what twenty two years old but Greg Jackson we spoke with Greg Jackson <hes> at U._C. to thirty nine fight week and I asked him I go. Did you want Aaron because Aaron Peco's now his gym I go. Do you want Erin Pico to take time off and he's like nope. I wanted to get right back in there. I wanted to get bigger as soon as possible so if Erica's notice how they I don't know if they've announced that yet but I didn't see any alternates announced announced famously Daniel Cormie like an unheralded down cormet was the alternate for that strikeforce heavyweight ground so if they need alternates maybe Aaron Pico is one of them. I don't know I I'm GonNa see Scott Coker later today in a last hope not artem Lobov's the guy. Nobody knows. Here's these keep them away from the tournament. <hes> I think people should be busy. A lot of people are saying Oh. He needs time of needs time off. No he's young. He needs to be fighting. He just needs to be fighting the right opposition but <hes> yeah thrown back in there yeah and he'll how long he wasn't with Greg Jackson's team that long before he got that bore yes so when I interviewed him like right before his fight that been seven weeks with the team yeah that's not enough time. That's not enough time yeah so I if Aaron Pico is in it. It'd be fun to watch him fight because I think he's like yeah. He might lose but he's an exciting fight in watt so I didn't I enjoy watching him fight but agree with you. I don't think you should fight against twenty twenty <hes> by moving along another D._S._p.. Connor question so I think we've talked about this a few times so while Bud Dan and we'll get your take on I know Dana said that he would consider beaver. Suggests P is to be if we really wanted it but maybe the timing I mean is very for G._S._p.. Versus Connor neither of them have belts right now. How would it non title pay per view main event? Do would just be want it. What would it add to his legacy well? That fight is definitely not happening. I think honor needs a fight. He can win or has a shot. Ah Connor can beat conor in the first round is is an unbelievable fighter but their their stylistic matchups that you favor the other guy heavily hubby was one of them George would definitely be one of Georgia's would be Georgia saint-pierre would be a huge. It's lightweight if the fight takes place a lightweight. I don't think conor and George would want that to make a lot of money but I don't think that's a smart fight conor whatsoever he needs. He needs a fun stylistic match that he can win but that if if there's one fight that could the paper you without a title on it. It's George anti ever conor McGregor. I think that'd be the biggest fight in U._F._C.. History in terms of pay per view because George is one of three pay per view kings of the U._F._C. and conor is the king I him in brock hit so it's Connor Brock George and then obviously Ron. I'd probably put four as the three biggest draws as individuals superstars <hes> so I think that'd be the biggest fine turns of interest but I if I'm conner's team on like don't take that fight yet. I think if it also depends where connor is at as far as his career like there's questions about if he's ever even return and if so how long's GonNa be that returned if look if they do just plans to stick around for two or three more fights you know are just two or one former or one more fight. Take the biggest possible even if it's not a good match up so in that case the G._O._p.. Would fight would make sense you know I mean you got one more if you lose. What does it matter right but if you if he's in it to make a run if he's in it to fight fight a few more times to get the bill bag defended stylish legacy something that I feel like fans don't feel that he's he's done enough of like he's done a lot of achievements? He's just hasn't established something long than sustained <hes> then Yeah G._S._P.'s a horrible idea to come. Come back and fight. Yes fight but it's a worse. It's a terrible match up. I mean we just saw <unk>. You really think that I would go any differently with GIS v. just because one of the best wrestlers so <hes> yeah note to that fight also I feel like G._S._p.. Yeah he's in it for the money at this stage of his career and if he does come back but he's also infor legacy that's why he fought Michael Bisbee and that's why the belt was on the line. Connor McGregor has no gold right now so <hes> if any if just be would comeback under any circumstances it'd be face a champion so yeah a hundred percent and at the end also looking back. I tweeted about this after conor loss to Habib. He lost a Habib. which is the highest paid for you ever? He's lost to nate the first time and you see one ninety-six which is one of the highest he beat nate the second time which is I think the second highest at the moment or it's fine and then he beat Eddie but then he also lost a floyd during all this which obviously is the second highest debut ever it while walk. If you listen to Dana White and did a million the did like ten trillion pay per view buys but I don't know the exact number off the top of my head but at the end of the day connors lost a lot of fights that a lot of people watched he needs he needs to win like yet like so say he fights Habib again loses. That's he's lost three fights in a row. If you count the Floyd fight at what point does he stop becoming a major player in combat sports. If you're like if he's not winning honestly I feel like at this point he so big I mean he's larger than the sport that he's he's going to continue to to draw numbers because at the end of the days though the people that are making those big numbers or casuals in casual it's. It's a lot easier to sell a fight to a casual in hardcore hardcore would look Kinda McGregor's record and go wet. Why is this the minivan? Why am I paying money for this like you know I? I shouldn't be watching this. I should be fighting Tony Ferguson fighting a Habib or or something like that but but the casuals are the ones that can be like well they put this highlight reel and he has not people before in the past. You never know Conor McGregor right so regardless whatever fight he's in. It's going to be big. <hes> I but I am brand is the best one when he's winning and I think that's why a trilogy fight with Navias Makes Sense. That's why I think you know the Donald cerrone fight make sense and Anthony Pettis any anybody that has no <unk> now that has no wrestling but anyone that does not pose the same threats that just pure Habib a poses is a good match for him so <hes> yet connor winning is good for business so that's why I think the cowboy fight makes the most sense cowboys mode wins the most knockdowns like most knockouts against all of these accolades. He's his name is all over the U._C.. Record book he has like he obviously had like the fighter with the most wins fighting conor McGregor that right there and that is a very winnable fight for both men. That's I've I've slightly leaned connor based on what we've seen like Donald cerrone he's got he's climbed to the top and it only to kind of falter. I think honor would play these mind games with cowboy leg leading up to the fight and cowboy says he's matured churn in like remember when he fought nate nate talk a lot and then Donald cerrone he played right in ideas as game inside the octagon and you can hear Greg Jackson just screening him to like stick to the game plan and Donald Sterling was on a box sky guy up and I think at the time they D- is landed the most significant strikes in the history of the U._C.. For three round fight in that five thousand co main event of brock listener ouster over and fun fact speaking of non title fight pay per view headliners <hes> but geor- George Connor in Dos Aronie. That's the fight to make to me. That's the only fight that makes sense for both men outside of a rematch Tony Ferguson but that's another story for cowboys really moving along long from Ted bear who has our good friend tender one here that one comma here they come Chhatra announced ones deal with Turner and his attentions of making a U._S. office in L._A.. Assuming he speaks the truth how do you the following of their arrival on American soil well. I don't know if it's fallout and then he asked six questions in a row so I'll do rapid fire with you because we're we're at the halfway point and we have a lot of questions we we were trying to get to will Dana White finally meet his promoters promoters match as yeah I froze my my street froze <hes> non back so I don't know what you said in the last like twenty seconds or so. Were you expecting also a response for me. Was I just quiet. Was I thought you were just like I'm done talking. That's hilarious. Oh was it was my frame frozen or why I have no idea I was reading the question. That's hilarious. I didn't even know I agree with your points. I agree with your points so but we're going to do a rapid rapid fire one here because we have a lot of questions to get to in this person at six questions in one thing but they all seem to be like yes or no <hes> about one championship Chachi announced ones deal with turn while I'm going to repeat it for Danny. Jockey announced ones deal with Turner as intention of making taking a U._S. office in L._A.. Assuming he speaks the truth how do you see the follow of their arrival on American soil. I don't know if it's going to be fallout but real rapid fire will will Dana White finally meet his promoters match as tragedy city dog is quick to spin spend a tall tale or two. That's an interesting question. I think I think we already we're already seeing how like one is positioning. The company is like it's one versus the A._F._C. see like we're we're you know we're not even number two what competing for number one the <hes> and I think what the recent acquisitions of American fighters in the American fighters performer U._F._C. Fighters Former U._C. Champions and prospect <hes> I think it could possession input position themselves as you know little rivalry today no white I don't think they don't want to. I don't even think I know Dana. White's not really GONNA care. Because how many times have we seen Detroit being like I don't like they're nothing like when Scott Coker went to ballot let's or that was like a major move because they let go beyond revenue and brought in Scott Coker who used to work for the U of C after the strikeforce acquisition has been in the Combat Sports M._A.. Game for a long time. I don't care like they're not like I don't view them as a arrival and number two like they're just they're next to the U._S.. Like they're not next to either just there so I don't think Dan is really going to care will he paid well other people in the O._C.. Pay Attention for sure but the question is specifically asking about Dana White out of the day is going to care but will this competition finally raised the minimum wage above twelve thousand show many of fight. I don't think so I don't also say no. I don't know what your opinion is. No yeah because we also don't know won. Championship hasn't ain't even how to event here in the United States so I know how that's going to play out. Don't disclose their their in the U._S.. Where like U._C._S. disclose like payments to the commissioning? You know US media. We get that information and get out with one. Danny froze again. Then is Internet is down so I'll just move along because I don't know if you guys dating but I cannot <hes> will help the U._S._C. Dismiss a lawsuit claiming it is a monopoly. No that will not happen who will be the next former us. He starts a defect one other as a fighter or an executive. That's an excellent question. If I'm putting money down almost almost a Chris Cyborg just because I know her contract is coming up and her in Dana White and the kind of have this this feud going on on Social Media <hes> so I don't expect her to sign with one but if you ask needs to just name a fighter that I could foresee her going. I could foresee her go into one championship again who she fight like. I don't buy GABE GARCIA WHO's in rising because they're good friends. I know a lot of people are going to say that that would be the first name Sabra have but I don't think that fight is ever GonNa Happen. A what did it take on one generally formulas fighters brandon harassing love it but Josh Receives as Trustworthy as Pinocchio Dana White <hes> I like it as an alternative I do. I am wary of their Wayne. Regulate the regulations regarding their Wayne's how they don't show the broadcast of the early morning ways and stuff like that and you hear fighters say like that fighter definitely cut wait like yeah fighters for those of you who don't know their weight divisions are a little above so like if Eddie hours fall one fifty five the United States is probably fighting one seventy in one championship against other fighters Danny back. I'm back. I was trying to find out I was trying to hold down the fort while you were gone. I was probably people probably like get this clown off my camera. But what was the last thing you heard so I was. I don't even know what you heard from from my end. All I said was the one doesn't disclose its pay so <hes> that's a big one. I mean if they somehow do in fighters find find out that they can make more money. <hes> at one in say one became a big player in the U._S.. Maybe then you'll see we're look into but even then. I think there's so many advantages within the A._F._c. that many fighters are willing to take pay cuts just to fight under those three letters Bingo you hit it right on the head so quickly yes or no and then because we got to move on quickly we'll help you dismiss all lawsuits claiming it is a monopoly yes or no of course but I think those lawsuits are kind of silly because there's a bunch of other other players <hes> but yeah the more competition the more that that claimed goes away right. I just don't think that's that you will ever. I don't think that's going to happen but I think that's that's way far. 'cause lawsuits take years. I that's not going to change anytime soon. I should say who do the next storm U._C.. started defect the one either as a fighter or an executive when you were frozen and off the Isaac Chris Cyber would be the one off the top of my head. I don't expect it to happen but I lean wean her because her contract is coming up and her Dana white kind of have this back and forth going on twitter like you turn down the fight. No I didn't yes you did now. He has Amanda Nunes saying she turned down. The fight is say prescribe or just based on the factor contracts coming up and <hes> hearn Dana White have not seen I lately yeah I think recycling my end up with Bella tour I mean she's worked with Scott Coker in the past and I don't know if you've like kept the have seen were twitter's always busy but <hes> she's been tweeting some belt or stuff and being I'm very <hes> you know the fighters over there and they actually belter actually has one hundred and forty five pound division women's division. <hes> you know indoor organization which is something you can't really say they'll vote but not a division so I think site has been very open about that like hey you'll see great stuff so I can definitely see cyber leaving the sea but as far as fighters going to one <hes> man. That's a tough one <hes> <hes> I don't know let's I'll have to get back to to you on that. One I also Julia Budd spoke with. 'em Fighting said that I'll fight against her. Cyborg is something she is absolutely open to and she's like she said like come on down but I know Chris Cyborg Orcas in Asia quite a bit either for training camp or or just staycationing whenever so I don't expect her to go to one but if there's one fighter on the U._C. Roster right now aileen her but we have to like and she runs through Spencer at U._S._C. to forty and gets the the immediate rematch Amanda Nunez. I don't think he's leaving the U._F._C.. Hey I'm your editor in chief. The verge host of the verge cast revamping the more and more lately and coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even at third bonus episode on Tuesdays and talked to influential people around the world of Tech like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other tags like founder of Lime Scooters The C._E._o.. 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Is With people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin we talk about how they got to where they are today and how their work is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribe for a free to be the first to hear them on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP <hes> and then finally what is your take on one generally form U._C.. Fighters like Brandon harassing the love it but Chachi Tree Seems as trustworthy as Pinocchio Dana Now before you came back I said the Wayne they're weighing thing where they don't show the Wayans on they don't broadcast early morning winds and everything. I'm not a big fan of that especially because they you know they have that rule where like getty ours is basically finding a one seventy or finding a way class above but calling it something else and now you always hear like yeah. This fighter isn't supposed to cut way but he's definitely cutting weight so it's like Eddie Alvarez fighting like one hundred eighty five pound fighter at one seventy. I don't like that whatsoever. <hes> self-regulations also another story. I know I will chope was on facebook like just rinsing them saying like he he basically like if they make the rules they can bend the rules and just do whatever whatever they want so the one thing is real weird for me but I'd like to hear your opinion yeah. There's a lot of sketchy things about you know the way one runs things. <hes> the Wayne's for one is is weird because you as fighters I would. Do you know how much your opponent Wade. They have no clue no I. I think that's kind of important. That's why there's weight classes but look the one is growing and one is down a pay person that you can't really find in the local circuit plus if you have leverage if you're a big name say like Dimitrius Johnson Sage North Cut Eddie Alvarez they're willing to to to accommodate you just as his belt or does just as any promotion does to any value valuable assets so if you can be valuable for them of course you're gonNA be happy because you're probably GonNa make good money. They'll probably from you. <hes> and you'll probably have a little bit more say about your future than you would in a larger company like the E._S._p._N.. Networks the truth across across like any other major company even outside of sports or may right so I think for for a lot of fighters it is a good vehicle. It is a good a good promotion to two five four hundred percent <hes> competitions good and and then I I like. I like the Moi Thai Kick Boxing M._M._A.. Style or like virus could be all three if they want but we're running real close on time so we're going to move along because we also have to jump to twitter even got a chance G._D._R.. Good afternoon guys from Rob Hollands <hes> even after a good one punch wind. G._D._R.'s still getting heat even though she has zero to do with the stoppage by her. What do you think is the best path for her to win back the fans? Does she wait for Nunez or does she take another fight. Stay more active and of course. What did you guys think of the Finnish hated finish? <hes> hated the finish because it was. I thought it was premature but it's always like did the referee just step in to save her because at the end of the day no unnecessary damage is what they're trying to protect the if I'd from that so did he stop it at the right time. It didn't look like it but I get it because she hurt her back was to G._D._R.. Like she was like her hands around. The cameras in her back was there she wasn't out but maybe three or four more punches than she'd go to sleep. I didn't like the stoppage because as soon as it happened. I'm like well. That's that's not what G._D._R. Needs. Germain durant me that is the last thing she needs is another wonky finish and another weird win so what she needs to do to win back the fans. I don't think you need to do anything thing because the fans shouldn't be against her in the first place <hes> and if I'm her I have to wait for the Chris cyborg Spencer fight because whoever wins that will probably fight a man in Nunez and if Amanda Nunez doesn't WanNa fight say cyborgs loses and she doesn't WanNa fight a one forty-five anymore because that is the only one inches her then she'll she should fight Germane to randomly. I think major enemies the clear cut number contender bantamweight in my opinion. Juliana pain has been racking rattling at the door but I think we have to wait for U._C.. To forty ready for the CYBORG fight before we can really see what's next for both divisions yeah I am. I see your point as far as like that's the last thing she needed. An and I think you know obviously has value. I think <unk> you make good point but I would. I would actually offer a different point of view. I actually think that this finishes is probably hopes earn is not exactly what she needed but Germain is developing whether she wanted or not she's developing a type of personality or character within anime about <hes> kind of being a villain and <hes> she's done well in the sense of like look dissociating vans and being like a look. <hes> you know like you guys say whatever you WanNa do me <hes> and and I don't share I don't see it that way but like her not fighting Cyborg and saying no I'm GonNa take care of my injuries which is very common wins. Fighters reached the title. I mean enters what is about to get surgery right. Comorros Munn <hes> is just healing from surgery centers very normal for fighters to win abound be like eight. I'M GONNA take care of my body right now. <hes> because a lot of fighters destroyed their body to get there so I'm not hating on Germain for that but a lot of fans are and I feel like her brand is is is getting bigger because of that mean Josh washing made a career out of being hated <hes> so you know it's always nice to have fans being on your side but you know having fans being on the other side of the fence. It's not really all that bad. Either you know ultimately your voice to make money and get opportunity so <hes> she did her job. She got you know it was a solid performance. It was on the ref that stopped the fight. Actually don't really disagree. I thought it was premature but I don't really disagree with it all that much. I think <hes> Lad was not intelligently defending herself. She had her hands on the ground. Not covering covering her face wasn't even looking at the opponent and if I was stopped she had like this blank. Look on her face. <hes> maybe she would have fought out of it. Maybe not we've seen fighters. Fight out of even worse positions were states but the fact is that Germain landed dropped her her <hes> and caused damage so <hes> I actually definitely see a path for her to fight for the bell at one thirty five so again. A lot depends on what the CYBORG does <hes> upcoming fight but I think J._D.. Germain is a huge player there and well. I agree with you that villains the world needs villains like in the professional wrestling world like villains or like you need those like Josh contract. We just talked about shale. Son is a great prizefighter. He made himself a great price started because he played the villain. Germane to randomly is such a likable person when you interview in like I interviewed her in Denver and she was crying in her post fight scrum because you said she needed healer injuries areas and stuff. I don't know if you remember that but she said she got an eye injury and camp in almost lost her I like she almost went completely blind in or I so she's like I might not have never fought again and it hit you could see that moment hit her. Where not only did I fight but I I one and she was crying? She's like I love. I Love Martial Arts so much I just love love everything about it so I get it but Germain is not gonna do that at if it did if he did it would come off so disingenuous I to me as I'm like what are you doing. You're such like you're so nice that you being mean just doesn't seem real to me. I mean I I feel like that's that falls on the fan base like she doesn't have to change who she is in all of the sudden mean in being rude but like I don't know if you remember not not so long ago Daniel Cormier wasn't the most popular fighter out there he was aided on a lot and this is due to that was just wanted to compete and do his best in he put it on the line every single time yet fans hated him because you'd really be joined Jones and this in that now all of a sudden becoming Cham- champion and all this he's kind of changed public perception now. He's I think the fans are appreciating are appreciating him a lot more but you know I don't think Germane has to be like this evil person for her to sort of take that torch search and I I think as long as 'cause I know like <unk>. She did several interviews where she'd be like yeah like I'm getting all these comments in their affecting me like we're told me to kill myself and like all these horrible things that people are mean on the Internet meant but if she can shut that off and just keep she doing her thing and if this is the way the chips are falling row with I mean at the end of the day the sports entertainment so <hes> you know whether they want to see your loser. They WanNa see you win. We'll matters as they want to see you fight so <hes> she's got yeah. I mean you're not wrong. I just yeah former featherweight champion Germane to random neither as mention that she was the inaugural never fought so if she gets to fight for a second belt and actually have a great performance in I also I just liked that fight like Germain Amanda. I'd just like that fight again yeah. I think that's another high level. Martial arts fighting where they were years ago is they're not the same fighter people are blinded by because I do think think like the way she may be phrased things in the way. She handled things when she wanted to title was a little off like I think those comments would probably served better. Maybe like a few weeks down the road not immediately in the post fight speech whereas like you know. I don't really have plans of defending the belt. Nonetheless manages forgot what I was going with this. Oh how I remember <hes> fans are blinded by that but Germain is actually a bad ass fighter jets raiders super good and she's got tons of power. She throws hard. She's very technical like she's legit man. I love watching her fight. Yeah I would. I was not upset. She headlines that that Sacramento Card I. I was more upset that we didn't if I didn't last longer her because I enjoy I also enjoy watching Asmara fight like I just wanted to watch a high level. martial-arts fight between two great fighters through five rounds but moving along because we still have a few questions we had about ten fifty minutes left and I do WanNa get to twitter hotmail of automated appearance at belt or to twenty four but no plans for his title defence were announced. What is your guest? Who is he going to fight next really well? I think the answer is he's GonNa fight the winner of Machida Gig on Masasi rematch I he was on the record saying that he would he wouldn't blame ballots. Let's or if they had the immediate rematch would be him and moves aussie because massage. You had that long run. It was a very close like a lot of people might escorted from a lot of people started for vodka. I Know Thomas was on record saying it's not an upset like lucky played the path south for Levato to win. He Levada saying he has no problem. Rematch in Moose Ossie we saw sea gets his long awaited long desire rematch against Machida. I think the winter that no-brainer fights Hafi Levada next. Agree with Bingo look at that you're welcome Delatour <hes> but final question on the site hey guys when when this question was asked in the past for multiple posters was brushed off the vague. We ain't going anywhere type of rhetoric but I'll be more specific. Can you elaborate on why majority of the top tired talent has partways fighting DOT com. I'm not insult anyone. That's the works there but it's strange an actual answer in any way with what can be said would be appreciated. Thank you and I will say I I asked them. I it's not my it's not my place to tell tell you guys why Sean Shock Dave Luke Aren't here so ask them and they'll give you because they have their reasons. I think I think you should they they should she wants to tell you guys I mean I don't really understand the question a little bit confused because I mean you're looking at the top talent so I'm just getting I mean I it's. It's obvious like you know we've. We've lost some people in the last few months <hes> <hes> but I I think that's the way the world works like. I have friends that. Are you know in working in media right now. They've been at a company for years now. They're looking go elsewhere. <hes> nothing last forever man like people move around people change jobs that that that's what happens <hes> I think everyone that has left as always like been as posted something on twitter has has opened up about their departure. Whatever so I guess everybody has personal recent so you can ask them <hes> but you know this? The wait is in an I. I understand the concern. I think people are worried about emmy fighting because for so long this has been a a community where you can come in. Get Your News but not only that you hop in the comments. You know I mean just right now. We're we're addressing our community from any fighting writing and all I can say is that that's still won't change will still be producing topnotch content. <hes> we still have you know super talented team and not only that we still have one of the biggest teams intimate <hes> and wherever you look at it in every area we got there Lyn. She's the most bad ass a photographer in enemy. <hes> probably in sports period <hes> videography we casey lied. WHO's another bad US always kills it? <hes> you're doing a great job with the with the a side in continuing to step up in other areas as well. We got the bad boy that is man in emanate me on his you go to Europe. We got the baddest journalist as well in in the European seeing. I don't need to talk about Brazil. Germany cruise is a bee's over there. <hes> Dan Martin due to that has been writing and working may media before I even got into it <hes>. Who Am I missing here <hes> we got? We got a very talented crew <hes> you got me as well. I'm around here so <hes> this is a great team mm-hmm and we're going to still be producing great content so that will be fun and I also don't like speaking for because like I'm still like everyone that left. You and I are still really good friends with is there's literally no animosity between the site on us like vice. I liked Johnston one of my really good friends. We lived in Arizona. I talk to mark about professional wrestling literally every single day on twitter <hes> and I know when you join the athletic you right everyone that joins the athletic Hasta right along piece on why they the athletic athletic so if you WANNA know why Chuck Sean or out the athletic now they literally wrote out why they why they're there and then Luke is doing his thing at showtime happy for him and his family and he kind of explained it <hes> like the yeah he explained it. You were there obviously so also. I don't like I personally don't like speaking for people because I'm not and I don't want to put words in their mouth and they come back and say hey. Why did you say this? I'm like so ask them <hes> but we're dump to twitter really quickly because we got honorific makes you forgot about another G.. Mike's you've had a beautiful man. Jose and Danny updates any update on fights for one Josie alday or Gregor Gillespie and what do you think of Gillespie versus although or Gillespie versus due Bronx Oliveira at one fifty five so I have been saying for everglades fevers Charlie varies the fight that I personally want to watch my not make sense in terms of ranking title contention. I WANNA watch that fight. I think that's Greg. Gillespie has a lot of questions like how would you do against. It's a high level black belt. There's questions how Charlie Hairdo against high level wrestler I just want to watch that fight to Angeles questions and I think Josie album should stay one forty five and knock up to one fifty five. I'm I'm I'm the opposite man I think all does has a lot of fun fights. I'm fifty five. That's where I wanNA see him and at this point after losing to Vulcan off ski and having those two losses to Max <hes> I just don't I guess maybe there is a path of Frankie. Edgar picks up a win. Maybe there's a path it back to the title but right now I. I don't really see it. <hes> I would pick Max Holloway to win that fight. Although Frankie eggers always game. I can't can't discard that but I'd like to see him test. The waters a one fifty five way cutting when when you're already in your thirties can can always hinder your performance you don't know until you go up. Wake less and find out so go up to fifty five have a fun fight in N._C.. See what happens worse comes to worse. You just dropped back to one forty five like you never left so <hes>. I'd like to see although when fifty five it's far as Gregory Gillespie <unk> a Molin signed me up I think they're both ranked at this point at fifty five of their definitely the top fifteen in I think Charles Oliveira finally his crazy ideas of going back to one forty five are already gone I think I I think he's already establishing himself in that way clus. Oh Yeah I'm all for it. I don't think Charlie bear is GONNA go one forty five as long as winning because he has the right deflect most emissions must performance but in every post vice speech I think he he always makes a case for for a drop which is ridiculous. It's like you just you don't realize just picked up a victory at one fifty five right so yeah I think and I get out every there's a lot of fun fights that Josie could take two five but I wanna see see Joseph. I Brian Ortega. I want rematch Korean Zombie Frankie Edgar wins. He has two wins over Frankie Edgar to like five round decisions. There's still a lot of fun fights at one forty five. I want to see Joe's Aldo take one forty five is super exciting and then obviously that cub Swanson fight that everybody keeps calling for a rematch imagine krone gracie versus Josie Aldo like I love everything about it so there's fights at both but all this jumping up and down like there's a lot of huge one fifty five hundred Josie allos not that big so if he if he can make one forty healthy. I wanted to say at one forty five because I selfishly WANNA see but we're out of time. It's eleven o'clock Danny. I know you watch the side every single week. You know what time you get your Promo. The floors your Sir so <hes> this is a little bit of what we addressed earlier <hes> but I I kinda WanNa take it a little more broad. In just outside of the Algebra Sterling Lean Henry pseudo favor just benefited situation guys wake up open your eyes. Take the red pill all right. Move your eyelids back in look around M._M._A.. Is No longer a sport. You'RE GONNA come on come at me on twitter and be like age but he's not in the rankings but you know he's not in the top ten but he's forty years old but this but the layoff look Dan Henderson got title shot being outside of the top ten being one in one all right Connor McGregor didn't WanNA fight for <hes> what two years also assaulted some people in a bus <hes> got into a bunch of trouble and then you got to headline one of the biggest the biggest paper type of unanimity history <hes> I can keep going down the list brock listener held division hostage this summer just because there might have been a possibility for him return. He hadn't fighting forever also is win over mark on his last win was questionable <hes> Matt I can just sit here in keep going on and on and on and on for days guess what Tony Ferguson the man has been in the fetus since two thousand thirteen. I was still in college didn't even know what I was doing. Nowadays amid tax paying adult that pays rent utilities cleans apartment in meal prep since Sunday and the dude still undefeated and it still hasn't gotten a title shot so guess what this is not a sport. This is sports entertainment so wake up if you're still using rankings as a look but this guy deserves that this guy this them enemy that you knew from from six seven years ago is not the same not the same way that we see today sports entertainment. If you can sell you can get a fight so I just wanted to get that get that. I thought it was pretty clear at this point. I thought you know in twenty nineteen. We kind of know how things work but apparently a lot of people don't so I just had to get that out of my chest. Well said Sir so my and I agree with you. I like I still view it as a sport but when I do fantasy matchmaking like Cynthia Calvillo came at me on twitter this recently because I said <hes> she should fight van Buren who just picked up big fight at U._C.. Sacramento and she's like she's not even ranked. She has one fight. I'm like I get it. I just like high level. Martial arts like it doesn't make sense <hes>. We're getting the timer that we have to go and I'm going to say we didn't even get talked about U._C.. San Antonio Edwards fights and Saturday seventy five win streak if he wins and call Covington wins called Communist by Leeann Edwards should finally get look for revenge that three pieces of Sodium Mazal and the winner of that gets the winner of Kobe content and Komo news been but at the end of the cul becoming us to fight Robbie lawler no chance there's no guarantee he wins that fight. That's Promo Danny. Were we've gone a little bit over time. I'm getting so we have to go so until so next week <hes>. 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The A-Side Live Chat | Urijah Faber & Germaine de Randamies KO wins, Bellator Featherweight Grand Prix, Next Opponent for Henry Cejudo, More

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The A-Side Live Chat | Urijah Faber & Germaine de Randamies KO wins, Bellator Featherweight Grand Prix, Next Opponent for Henry Cejudo, More

"You're listening to Fox media network. What's up universe Jose young here with 'em fighting DOT COM for another episode of a side live chat on as I said may find dot com not in my normal spot? I'm not I am on the road. I'm not at fight night or whatever it's I'm in the beautiful overcast Los Angeles but I'm GonNa go to ballots or media day later today and then tomorrow is. I believe that's always luncheon so I'm here in Los Angeles. I'm using video for extraordinarily Casey lied in Beautiful Camera. Which is why actually look semi presentable this time but this week making his debut on the side <hes>? I've been asked this every week literally every single week. It's either wins P._C.. Coming back on and when is Danny Cigar GonNa make his as I live jet that week is today Danny what's up man. Thanks for having me on <hes>. The people got what they wanted. They asked you you. I shall receive so you're I am. They missed you. They missed your beautiful face on Mondays and on the beat so since obviously that is a process where working on <hes> but I've been asked every week since I took this over one is Danny GonNa come on when his Pizza GonNa come on fees on Danny's so you guys got both of your wishes on both of your guests hosts <hes> really excited to have Danny on. I'm sure he's going to be on a million times so but without further ado we're going to jump into your questions and as you guys know <hes> <hes> put your comments in the comments section you can use go on twitter use Hashtag the side and will look for your questions. We might do a little bit different this time because we have a lot of questions and we're definitely not going to get all of them. A lot of them have been greened recommended. Whatever you WANNA call them so we're going to be? We're going to have to bounce around a lot because we're definitely not gonna hit all of them this week but <hes> right off the Bat Danny China's ban on people who have tattoos now that fighters fighting in China must cover up their tattoos. How will this affect the A._F._C.? Won Shame should've been other organizations from doing fights in China also with the U._N._C. sets go to China soon. How does this affect how they put a fight card together a like to hear your opinion on the topic so yes Danny I don't know if you heard by China China? <hes> has this law regulation. I don't know the exact terminology where they don't want <hes> actors or anyone with tattoos or quote unquote hip hop culture on their television. It's not specifically aimed at enemy fighters wires. I just think it's abroad like tattoos. I also I haven't looked too deep into it but I read the wording of the actual law and it seems to be they don't want them broadcast in China so you say just drown Wiley Zhang fight on the upcoming card in China. I don't know if it'll be broadcast in China if that makes sense but we'll be able to see here. I just don't know if they can. I don't know of just GONNA drives can be on television in China and I I. I know a lot of fighters over. They will have to wear rash guards to cover up their cover up their tests. I don't know if that's going to happen. This is a fairly new development in to me but <hes> what is your opinion on if these fighters might not be able to fight in a market that they're really trying to break into well. That's another excuse for the U._S._C. to start skipping contenders. You don't have tattoos are I will. You're fighting for the title next no but in all seriousness <hes> is it only for television television broadcasts or what about streaming that that's a good question. That is an excellent question. I don't know I don't know how China uses streaming because I know like the U._k.. They they'd have like a different streaming service for the U. OF C. They have B._T.. Sports there's Fight T._v.. The and E._S._P._N.. Plaza and all that stuff that's an excellent question that they don't have the answer to yeah. I guess you know that that's going to be another hurdle you if she's going to have to deal with if they plan to have events in China <hes> usually whenever they go to somewhere outside the the U._S. with the U._S.. They try to have local fighters on the cart obviously to sell taking and whatnot <hes> from from what I remember you know in. This is just me generalizing a lot of Chinese fighters. Don't have that many tattoos so I guess you know that that's a plus but when you bring in guys over or girls that have tattoos. I guess that'll be an issue but as long as it's not broadcasting. I'm guessing they're good. I know for example Japan. I think Joe Rogan talked about this a while ago like hugh staff to wear long sleeves and corrupt his tattoos because tattoos are often seen as as an entitled with the Yakuza and seen as sort of like a gangster thing to it <hes> so I guess just another hurdle the use he's going to have to deal with and yet but as long as I can they put on the right fights it's they they will continue to go to China and I a hundred percent it will be difficult. Say like widely Zhang is fighting say this fight wasn't happening in China it was happening in on the Newark Cards say widely James Fighting Jessica androgen Newark and they I really want to use widely Zhang is like the face of their new Chinese market but they they can't show her fight because she's fighting someone with tattoos that to me would be the most detrimental like it will be very interesting to see if the U._S.. He does move forward saying say Wiley. Zhang does win be just gone garage and now they have a Chinese champion but they can't show her fights in China like I don't I guess another requirement for a contender. Is You know gotTa have I laser removal and I believe a lot of them were rash guards and when they do fight in China by I don't like I was like you have see if you don't WanNa wear rash guard. You're not a rash guard but like just GonNa draw tattoos but I don't believe rose has tattoos. I don't believe you'll WANNA has tattoos news <hes> but there's a lot of strawweights <hes> that have tattoos and that division and I'm sure we're GonNa talk about later but that division is unbelievable so I it's so good it's GonNa be it's GonNa be interesting to see moving forward award how they handle this but I don't have all the answers. I'm sure we'll talk about this later on but moving right along Danny from Clev- twenty one all in that first one I apologize I pronounce your name on it was zack coup co Keggi outs that are as that first question so I apologize if I pronounced your name Rock <hes> but from Club twenty-one pseudo stret- real simple who should slash deserves to get the next shot who and who will get the next shot at pseudo <hes> Dan you can start this one if you want a henry pseudo is a triple city but he is a champ champ is the U._F._C. Bantamweight and flyweight champion. There's a lot of fighters calling for his name <hes> but who who do you think deserves the first fight. Who Do you think we'll get the first fight tough question and <hes> I actually caught a lot of heat on twitter? Recently Algebra Sterling Lakewood tweeted me saying like get the fuck out <hes> and he was kind of a little bit upset. I guess at some of the things that I tweeted all I said was I was pretty clear my tweet yet people were kind of obviously just just taking out of context I literally I sentence I said was I'm not saying that I wanna see pseudo versus favor. I'm not saying that but what I am saying is that it's not a crazy idea now that he has a win over a ranked opponent <hes> I think I've always I've been on record and I told this to to sterling to. I replied to his tweet. I think he should get the next shot at one thirty five but that it doesn't necessarily mean he should get the next shot period. I think the next guy in line is Joseph Ben Evita's. That's the guy that the only guy the has a win over and that fight. I don't know if you guys remember it. <hes> it was a buildup for from a tough series so there it was a little bit of a rivalry there and I think that that's the time when Suharto was cringe but without without really I guess bringing it out to the world and Joseph Ben Evita's would just would just <hes> always burn them for that <hes>. It was actually really entertaining. Fido some controversy there. If you don't remember <hes> who got deducted a point I don't remember exactly for for what it was might have been a low kick. <hes> <hes> a low shot. I don't remember the details but yet he was deducted a point. I thought so Kudo <hes> probably had the better fight nonetheless Joseph one is still very competitive. I think he should get the next shot. I think there's a story line there. I think Henry's of who has the opportunity to defend the bell both weight classes something in your champ champs haven't been doing in the recent years and I think that will set them apart from any other chance. Amanda Nunes is currently a trying to attempt that <hes> but you know we saw her at one thirty five. We've yet to see her at one forty five. If a Huda can can can do that I think it will put put them apart from all the other champs and on top of that you know it's a fun fight. It's a fight that Joseph benefit deserves so I think he's the next in line who who do. I think we'll get it. I'm going to be optimistic and I'm an I'm GONNA say Joseph. Benedetto's Dana White recently recently came out in the Z and said Look I think Joseph innovators should get the next shy I think if Kudos able to defend the belt at both ways will keep one hundred twenty five pound division route so I think it's a it's a great idea but again this the same talking to t._m._z. where they just stick a camera in your face disaster questions on your side. Well yeah sure you know so. I don't know I think the favorite thing people are discarding it. People are saying it's crazy but I do think it's very possible I wouldn't would it. Look if tomorrow I wake up and open up twitter because as the first thing I do when I wake up I see favors getting the next title shot one thirty five Windsor Pricing. What is not one bit not even a little bit? I can't agree. I agree with everything. He said. If they announce your favorite was fighting Henderson who for one hundred thirty five pound title it would be the least shopping development it wouldn't. I won't say it won't it wouldn't bother me personally because I just like high level martial arts and that's like I liked that fight as a fight right but who deserves it. It's Josephine Evita's I spoke with Henderson Budo at the U._C.. Hall of fame ceremony on the red carpet and he told me that fight doesn't bother him at all like the first Dimitrius Johnson fight ate him alive and that made ate him obsessed but losing the Joseph Vitas didn't bother me. That was a three round fight so who knows what would have happened. 'cause I don't know if you remember that that main event I believe was Dimitrius Johnson. Tim Elliott Yawn that theme Clark and Joseph Benefactors will should've that was he'd had already gone against Dimitrius and so him fighting pseudo and winning anyone else doing that would have got on the next just happened to be of benefit as didn't deserve that that third fight but like you said Dana was on T._m._z. saying Joseph Ben Views. As we get the next title shot but Dan was also on T._M._Z. saying women will never fight in the A._F._C. and now the U._S.'s not for sale. That's crazy I mean there's a bigger chance in quarterback for what is it the Patriots Yeah so yeah so it should be just benefit as an remain sterling also said on twitter after Joseph Bien vitas one that he wouldn't have a problem if they gave Joe be he goes. I don't have a problem of job. Got The fight. If anyone deserves it over me it's him and now he he unquote tweeted article of Dana White saying Joe will probably get the next house shot or Hendrasto should fight a flyweight next and he said who should I fight for the interim title. That's a Alger May said so. I think he's trying to will this infantile intuit existence which just infuriated me because I hate but right away within seconds Peter Yawn quote tweeted it and he's just like I'm in now is like let's I'm in that fight. I love appearing on Algebra and certainly both bought it used to thirty radiate. They were both on that Chicago car the time line lines up. I think it's clear like those are the the next big contenders but then you're Ri- favorite comes and tells a wrench into that but if you're asking me personally I would like to watch Joseph Van Evita's fight Henderson who and I would like almonds strongest by appear young. That's my favorite scenario but your favorite is a wildcard in a very popular wildcard and all this chirping. They're doing on twitter. You know the U._S.'s Prot like they're definitely gauging. The interest in how people are taking the trash is trash. Talk on twitter so like you said would not surprise me if your favorite got yet another title fight yeah. It's it's it's not for Fitchet on people are saying. Are you delusional like you know he just came back from retirement but it's it's totally possible and actually I have one of my best friends he <hes> he works at the Guardian so the way his mind works is he's aware of everything news wise so he knows a lot about everything about sports a little bit about everything right but it's mostly what made headlines and I remember she came over the other day and I was watching <hes> some something about your favor because I had just interviewed him so I was writing a story <hes> and he goes oh that's right favor and I go <hes> yeah. That's your Kiro yeah no him he's old Riley. Alec is going back to fighting a one I give him the the quick update but vice who Algebra sterling is he doesn't know who that is advised them who Peter Yanni's. He doesn't know that his I've probably ask him. Henry Suharto is that champ champ probably doesn't know that he knows Araya favor though your fingers of big name and we've seen the U._S.'s time after time skip over you know deserving contenders over a guys that can sell sell pay-per-view in and that's your favor so correct me if I'm wrong but didn't brock listener fight for U._C.. Heavyweight everybody championship in his third fight there you go after beating the heavyweight title held hostage the last few months because we didn't know it was depending on whether brock lesser or not what will jump into sport you know so yeah. It's it's. It's ridiculous to think that your favorite wouldn't be at the end of the day. I always remind people this yeah. They are fighters but their prize fighters yet. I know our old colleague Luke a lot of heat for saying saying jail son was a good not great fighter. I think he was a great prize fighter because every fight he was in drew a lot of interest and he headlined or Komen invented everything he was in at from name Marquardt <unk> fight on pretty much it was jail son was a big deal on five parts might not have been the most skilled fighter but he was an unbelievable prizefight ourselves. If they're in the money making business your favorites the name name to go with I've just I don't personally want to see that a fight yet but yes moving off. God knows hey look if I wouldn't even be pissed. If you do Algebra sterling your favor for I love that yeah I think in term titles work when you have champ jumps that are willing to defend divisions in that case. I don't hate interim tests hundred percent by moving on another question from Club twenty-one <hes> recommended by our readers super fight. Do you think there's any chance we will see G._S._p.. Versus Habib and on the new U._C. Model E._S._p._N.. And with the new U._F._C. Model with E._S._p._N.. Are the days of super fights over now. I think that's that's a super fight like G._S._p.. Gone in a new way. Class is a super fight. Habib said that if he fights it's George saint-pierre he'd rat he would prefer to have it at one fifty five <hes> because it would be for the championship like if he moves up to one seventy and fights Georgia at a catchweight like it doesn't matter <hes> George is wants that fight. He says he can make fifty five because he was not only what five I ten five eleven he's not he's obviously huge because he fought a middleweight but if George can cut down to one fifty five I give him a title. He's one of the few fighters I give title shots who right away just because he's George saint-pierre but I don't see that happening anytime time soon Dana White Sprint pretty adamant that that fight like George retired because he he didn't get that fight so I personally don't see that happening anytime soon I'd rather see selfishly. I'd rather see Habib Fight Tony Ferguson I <hes> <hes> and then obviously the key the connery mass everyone's talking about but I think there's a lot of fights I'd see I'd rather see now rather than have George Napier comeback and kind of winning if he wins and then retires again. What was the point I mean? I don't think that fight will happen. I think if there was any time that it would have happened it would have been you know months ago. I mean the whole thing George Cimpian the U._F._C. didn't see eye to eye when it came down to negotiations because I'm sure if disappear in you know all all things would have been been equal to five p probably the summer right <hes> but the reason why didn't come down is because they didn't see eye to eye so that fight did not happen <hes> now at this point I believe Jefferson Perez out of the you saw pool right so for him to come back. It'll be another six months unless they wanted to brock listener situation just wave off the the six month period <hes> but the thing that this fight has going against that there's also several other super fights bites at one fifty five at this point you know a rematch with Conor McGregor would be the biggest fight may be in combat sports history. Maybe <hes> certainly the the biggest intimate for sure if you throw Tony Ferguson in there as well all of a sudden. I'm sure there's a lot out of interest there as well in the I would consider that a super far as well <hes> at this point and <hes> so yeah. There's still a lot of options in a lot of big fights at one fifty five that don't depend on Darshan pier so odds are that doesn't happen. I agree and I personally think if if Habib wins beads does emporia which I lean I favor Habib but it's it's the one hundred fifty five pound division is so chaotic like anything that happened. I think five between Habib versus Tony Ferguson Jason is a fight for the greatest lightweight of all time. The winner of that fight to me is the greatest one hundred fifty five pound m._M._a.. Fighter who's ever lived right now I kind of think B._J.. Penn by default based off his history but if you were to sit there and say I think Antonio Variations of the greatest lightweight ever I'd be like yeah all right that's totally fine with me and or if you sent Habib's the greatest I also agree with you. I think the winner that fight just settles it and to me that is a super fight. Tony Versus Habib is is one hundred percent super fight in my mind yes. It's a super I I. I think that question that fight Duffy answers the question of WHO's the best one hundred fifty five pound fighter ever undoubtedly defied answers as far as the greatest. I think a lot goes into achievement in despite Tony Ferguson already having being a a run that's worthy of being called a championship run like you could easily just you know <hes> going to Wikipedia page edited Tony Ferguson and just put him as champion and you look at his run and you go yeah that you'd believe even you'd like yeah. That's a championship run but obviously not having the bill I think in all those achievements you know <unk> Japan going up awake last winning also the welterweight title <hes> I think he's still the greatest if we're measuring achievement but as far as the best yeah Habib been in Tony Ferguson and are are the two best lights with lightweights and they've yet to fight so we don't really know who's the best but those are those two are and I'm on record saying that will never happen because I'm very much a believer in reverse psychology <hes> and if I say yeah that fight will eventually happen. I know it won't because we've been burned so many times so that fight will never happen because I'm very much in favor of reverse psychology Russia's kicking in just from you bringing this up. I remember we'll fight was it that they both actually weighed in and made it to weigh INS whatever card I remember watching those early morning as I roy tweet something like we had a very like it was a moment where it was just like wow. How amazing would it be if these needs to be fighting each other? Maybe it's one of those things that like just they'll never fight each other and then would just would just be what the what if but <hes> that'd be one of the biggest one of the biggest <hes>. I guess regrets M._M._A.. Regrets not not ever making defy puzzle using to twenty nine they both thought on the same hard and didn't fight each other which broke my heart but we're gonNA move right along <hes> hello listener. 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I'm sure that question is because you're on I'm sure as soon as people saw you are on that had a lot of questions about the enemy hour so if you want us anything go head yeah. I'll just CEOS <hes> you know there are things in the work. They are some <hes> ideas you know in the works right now a personally like I for the most part like when I hopped in pop done fighting like four years ago I was mainly just writing and doing a lot social media work and then once I moved up to New York and I started appearing on the beat in that I had the opportunity to work on the I really enjoyed working with video and it's something i WanNa do more often. It's something that this company values a lot because vox media is a digital company right so obviously videos huge for us so we are looking to create more video content <hes> in programming. That's something we're we're always going to going to be looking at. Obviously you know we've had a lot of people leave and there's been been a little bit of a shake-up in in things have been <hes> I guess a little hectic <hes> but you know what we are organizing we are. We have some things <hes> that we're putting together so <hes> just stay tuned yet. Just stay tune in more more content will be coming your way so Dan what Daddy's answer. It was way better than my answer because I've said I can't tell you how many times I said stay tuned so at this point said hey stay tuned and and I know people like you've been saying that your aunt that listen to Danny. He knows what he's talking about. So I get asked about it on twitter like every day. I feel like I answer one thing and then the next day still the same question in I'm not a big social media guy anyway so <hes> yeah <hes> stuff's coming so just stay tuned so moving right along. I'm pretty excited about this one from lear on Ben Nara again I really apologize if I don't pronounce if I'm mispronouncing these hey guys ballots or featherweight Grand Prix for those of you who are want for those of you who are wondering how they pick. I throw mashes. It's by facial hair all right now for the serious stuff. WHO's a a one who's going to win? Worst is to best first round match up. I Dunno about worst because they're all like these are some high level. Fighters WanNa most aside for I'm really excited for Juan Patricio pit bull which is for the featherweight Jameson. Why don't you let it is like moving up because you're in you were at the New York fight one archer letterhead that lazy knockout Yup and he's with he said like I am the next contender for one thirty five but now he's <hes> I really liked Taiwan claxton like he's willing to have that crazy finding the knockout that made all the highlight reels? He's is a very interesting human. <hes> when I interviewed him in Chicago he was telling me that he had a job interview at Google to code and I was like why are you fighting like do that. Don't take brain damage like go code for Google <hes> so I like watching fight just because because essentially interesting guy yeah there's some super interesting fights. I don't know what the worst one is because I do like all these their names. I wish were in it. I know pizza carols probably really upset that arts and low Bob and Brennan Lockney aren't in it by payment file lost. They're going to feel that that's GonNa Golfing where deepens Herman. They're gonNA say guess what the championship is is no longer in the line. We got something you're better. That's what I lack week. Carol was like I want Artem Lova Brennan Analog Name and Pedro Carvalho Patriots value is obviously in it but I said I don't like Arima. Bob should not even be in the tournament. The winner should fight artem logo like is the the he's the final boss. I don't feel like they did with <hes> Stephon Bonner bringing home you know the the masked man and just unveil him arts lavas yearly this fight. I wanted to know seriousness in all seriousness this is. Is it a really exciting tournament. <hes> I'm really excited. This is just fun stuff. One matchup that I love is Pat Curren versus Adam Adam boards knocked Iron Pico here New York just not so long ago in men interviewing him like he he just looked amazing <hes> and yet he's a fantastic fighter. Impact turn is is his experience as they come. This guy could easily be fighting in the U._F._C. for many years. I mean he's been high level for a very long time. <hes> so that's a fight that I'm really looking forward to <hes> but that's that's just personally those <unk>. A bunch of other great fights there to pick a worse. I think they're all Dan calls moving up from one thirty five to one forty five Henry Corrales on that knocked. He's in Pico so Aaron PECO's is not in it which I think a lot of people were surprised about but yeah good yeah. I think <hes> Scott said something I think speaking with. I don't remember all that will but I think he said something like. They want to take a step back from from Pico in. I think that's good. I think you know he needs tune up. Fights does need to be a tournament fighting the best featherweights on the planet the kids only what twenty two years old but Greg Jackson we spoke with Greg Jackson <hes> at U._C. to thirty nine fight week and I asked him I go. Did you want Aaron because Aaron Peco's now his gym I go. Do you want Erin Pico to take time off and he's like nope. I wanted to get right back in there. I wanted to get bigger as soon as possible so if Erica's notice how they I don't know if they've announced that yet but I didn't see any alternates announced announced famously Daniel Cormie like an unheralded down cormet was the alternate for that strikeforce heavyweight ground so if they need alternates maybe Aaron Pico is one of them. I don't know I I'm GonNa see Scott Coker later today in a last hope not artem Lobov's the guy. Nobody knows. Here's these keep them away from the tournament. <hes> I think people should be busy. A lot of people are saying Oh. He needs time of needs time off. No he's young. He needs to be fighting. He just needs to be fighting the right opposition but <hes> yeah thrown back in there yeah and he'll how long he wasn't with Greg Jackson's team that long before he got that bore yes so when I interviewed him like right before his fight that been seven weeks with the team yeah that's not enough time. That's not enough time yeah so I if Aaron Pico is in it. It'd be fun to watch him fight because I think he's like yeah. He might lose but he's an exciting fight in watt so I didn't I enjoy watching him fight but agree with you. I don't think you should fight against twenty twenty <hes> by moving along another D._S._p.. Connor question so I think we've talked about this a few times so while Bud Dan and we'll get your take on I know Dana said that he would consider beaver. Suggests P is to be if we really wanted it but maybe the timing I mean is very for G._S._p.. Versus Connor neither of them have belts right now. How would it non title pay per view main event? Do would just be want it. What would it add to his legacy well? That fight is definitely not happening. I think honor needs a fight. He can win or has a shot. Ah Connor can beat conor in the first round is is an unbelievable fighter but their their stylistic matchups that you favor the other guy heavily hubby was one of them George would definitely be one of Georgia's would be Georgia saint-pierre would be a huge. It's lightweight if the fight takes place a lightweight. I don't think conor and George would want that to make a lot of money but I don't think that's a smart fight conor whatsoever he needs. He needs a fun stylistic match that he can win but that if if there's one fight that could the paper you without a title on it. It's George Anti ever conor McGregor. I think that'd be the biggest fight in U._F._C.. History in terms of pay per view because George is one of three pay per view kings of the U._F._C. and conor is the king I him in brock hit so it's Connor Brock George and then obviously Ron. I'd probably put four as the three biggest draws as individuals superstars <hes> so I think that'd be the biggest fine turns of interest but I if I'm conner's team on like don't take that fight yet. I think if it also depends where connor is at as far as his career like there's questions about if he's ever even return and if so how long's GonNa be that returned if look if they do just plans to stick around for two or three more fights you know are just two or one former or one more fight. Take the biggest possible even if it's not a good match up so in that case the G._O._p.. Would fight would make sense you know I mean you got one more if you lose. What does it matter right but if you if he's in it to make a run if he's in it to fight fight a few more times to get the bill bag defended stylish legacy something that I feel like fans don't feel that he's he's done enough of like he's done a lot of achievements? He's just hasn't established something long than sustained <hes> then Yeah G._S._P.'s a horrible idea to come. Come back and fight. Yes fight but it's a worse. It's a terrible match up. I mean we just saw <unk>. You really think that I would go any differently with GIS v. just because one of the best wrestlers so <hes> yeah note to that fight also I feel like G._S._p.. Yeah he's in it for the money at this stage of his career and if he does come back but he's also infor legacy that's why he fought Michael Bisbee and that's why the belt was on the line. Connor McGregor has no gold right now so <hes> if any if just be would comeback under any circumstances it'd be face a champion so yeah a hundred percent and at the end also looking back. I tweeted about this after conor loss to Habib. He lost a Habib. which is the highest paid for you ever? He's lost to nate the first time and you see one ninety-six which is one of the highest he beat nate the second time which is I think the second highest at the moment or it's fine and then he beat Eddie but then he also lost a floyd during all this which obviously is the second highest debut ever it while walk. If you listen to Dana White and did a million the did like ten trillion pay per view buys but I don't know the exact number off the top of my head but at the end of the day connors lost a lot of fights that a lot of people watched he needs he needs to win like yet like so say he fights Habib again loses. That's he's lost three fights in a row. If you count the Floyd fight at what point does he stop becoming a major player in combat sports. If you're like if he's not winning honestly I feel like at this point he so big I mean he's larger than the sport that he's he's going to continue to to draw numbers because at the end of the days though the people that are making those big numbers or casuals in casual it's. It's a lot easier to sell a fight to a casual in hardcore hardcore would look Kinda McGregor's record and go wet. Why is this the minivan? Why am I paying money for this like you know I? I shouldn't be watching this. I should be fighting Tony Ferguson fighting a Habib or or something like that but but the casuals are the ones that can be like well they put this highlight reel and he has not people before in the past. You never know Conor McGregor right so regardless whatever fight he's in. It's going to be big. <hes> I but I am brand is the best one when he's winning and I think that's why a trilogy fight with Navias Makes Sense. That's why I think you know the Donald cerrone fight make sense and Anthony Pettis any anybody that has no <unk> now that has no wrestling but anyone that does not pose the same threats that just pure Habib a poses is a good match for him so <hes> yet connor winning is good for business so that's why I think the cowboy fight makes the most sense cowboys mode wins the most knockdowns like most knockouts against all of these accolades. He's his name is all over the U._C.. Record book he has like he obviously had like the fighter with the most wins fighting conor McGregor that right there and that is a very winnable fight for both men. That's I've I've slightly leaned connor based on what we've seen like Donald cerrone he's got he's climbed to the top and it only to kind of falter. I think honor would play these mind games with cowboy leg leading up to the fight and cowboy says he's matured churn in like remember when he fought nate nate talk a lot and then Donald cerrone he played right in ideas as game inside the octagon and you can hear Greg Jackson just screening him to like stick to the game plan and Donald Sterling was on a box sky guy up and I think at the time they D- is landed the most significant strikes in the history of the U._C.. For three round fight in that five thousand co main event of brock listener ouster over and fun fact speaking of non title fight pay per view headliners <hes> but geor- George Connor in Dos Aronie. That's the fight to make to me. That's the only fight that makes sense for both men outside of a rematch Tony Ferguson but that's another story for cowboys really moving along long from Ted bear who has our good friend tender one here that one comma here they come Chhatra announced ones deal with Turner and his attentions of making a U._S. office in L._A.. Assuming he speaks the truth how do you the following of their arrival on American soil well. I don't know if it's fallout and then he asked six questions in a row so I'll do rapid fire with you because we're we're at the halfway point and we have a lot of questions we we were trying to get to will Dana White finally meet his promoters promoters match as yeah I froze my my street froze <hes> non back so I don't know what you said in the last like twenty seconds or so. Were you expecting also a response for me. Was I just quiet. Was I thought you were just like I'm done talking. That's hilarious. Oh was it was my frame frozen or why I have no idea I was reading the question. That's hilarious. I didn't even know I agree with your points. I agree with your points so but we're going to do a rapid rapid fire one here because we have a lot of questions to get to in this person at six questions in one thing but they all seem to be like yes or no <hes> about one championship Chachi announced ones deal with turn while I'm going to repeat it for Danny. Jockey announced ones deal with Turner as intention of making taking a U._S. office in L._A.. Assuming he speaks the truth how do you see the follow of their arrival on American soil. I don't know if it's going to be fallout but real rapid fire will will Dana White finally meet his promoters match as tragedy city dog is quick to spin spend a tall tale or two. That's an interesting question. I think I think we already we're already seeing how like one is positioning. The company is like it's one versus the A._F._C. see like we're we're you know we're not even number two what competing for number one the <hes> and I think what the recent acquisitions of American fighters in the American fighters performer U._F._C. Fighters Former U._C. Champions and prospect <hes> I think it could possession input position themselves as you know little rivalry today no white I don't think they don't want to. I don't even think I know Dana. White's not really GONNA care. Because how many times have we seen Detroit being like I don't like they're nothing like when Scott Coker went to ballot let's or that was like a major move because they let go beyond revenue and brought in Scott Coker who used to work for the U of C after the strikeforce acquisition has been in the Combat Sports M._A.. Game for a long time. I don't care like they're not like I don't view them as a arrival and number two like they're just they're next to the U._S.. Like they're not next to either just there so I don't think Dan is really going to care will he paid well other people in the O._C.. Pay Attention for sure but the question is specifically asking about Dana White out of the day is going to care but will this competition finally raised the minimum wage above twelve thousand show many of fight. I don't think so I don't also say no. I don't know what your opinion is. No yeah because we also don't know won. Championship hasn't ain't even how to event here in the United States so I know how that's going to play out. Don't disclose their their in the U._S.. Where like U._C._S. disclose like payments to the commissioning? You know US media. We get that information and get out with one. Danny froze again. Then is Internet is down so I'll just move along because I don't know if you guys dating but I cannot <hes> will help the U._S._C. Dismiss a lawsuit claiming it is a monopoly. No that will not happen who will be the next former us. He starts a defect one other as a fighter or an executive. That's an excellent question. If I'm putting money down almost almost a Chris Cyborg just because I know her contract is coming up and her in Dana White and the kind of have this this feud going on on Social Media <hes> so I don't expect her to sign with one but if you ask needs to just name a fighter that I could foresee her going. I could foresee her go into one championship again who she fight like. I don't buy GABE GARCIA WHO's in rising because they're good friends. I know a lot of people are going to say that that would be the first name Sabra have but I don't think that fight is ever GonNa Happen. A what did it take on one generally formulas fighters brandon harassing love it but Josh Receives as Trustworthy as Pinocchio Dana White <hes> I like it as an alternative I do. I am wary of their Wayne. Regulate the regulations regarding their Wayne's how they don't show the broadcast of the early morning ways and stuff like that and you hear fighters say like that fighter definitely cut wait like yeah fighters for those of you who don't know their weight divisions are a little above so like if Eddie hours fall one fifty five the United States is probably fighting one seventy in one championship against other fighters Danny back. I'm back. I was trying to find out I was trying to hold down the fort while you were gone. I was probably people probably like get this clown off my camera. But what was the last thing you heard so I was. I don't even know what you heard from from my end. All I said was the one doesn't disclose its pay so <hes> that's a big one. I mean if they somehow do in fighters find find out that they can make more money. <hes> at one in say one became a big player in the U._S.. Maybe then you'll see we're look into but even then. I think there's so many advantages within the A._F._c. that many fighters are willing to take pay cuts just to fight under those three letters Bingo you hit it right on the head so quickly yes or no and then because we got to move on quickly we'll help you dismiss all lawsuits claiming it is a monopoly yes or no of course but I think those lawsuits are kind of silly because there's a bunch of other other players <hes> but yeah the more competition the more that that claimed goes away right. I just don't think that's that you will ever. I don't think that's going to happen but I think that's that's way far. 'cause lawsuits take years. I that's not going to change anytime soon. I should say who do the next storm U._C.. started defect the one either as a fighter or an executive when you were frozen and off the Isaac Chris Cyber would be the one off the top of my head. I don't expect it to happen but I lean wean her because her contract is coming up and her Dana white kind of have this back and forth going on twitter like you turn down the fight. No I didn't yes you did now. He has Amanda Nunes saying she turned down. The fight is say prescribe or just based on the factor contracts coming up and <hes> hearn Dana White have not seen I lately yeah I think recycling my end up with Bella tour I mean she's worked with Scott Coker in the past and I don't know if you've like kept the have seen were twitter's always busy but <hes> she's been tweeting some belt or stuff and being I'm very <hes> you know the fighters over there and they actually belter actually has one hundred and forty five pound division women's division. <hes> you know indoor organization which is something you can't really say they'll vote but not a division so I think site has been very open about that like hey you'll see great stuff so I can definitely see cyber leaving the sea but as far as fighters going to one <hes> man. That's a tough one <hes> <hes> I don't know let's I'll have to get back to to you on that. One I also Julia Budd spoke with. 'em Fighting said that I'll fight against her. Cyborg is something she is absolutely open to and she's like she said like come on down but I know Chris Cyborg Orcas in Asia quite a bit either for training camp or or just staycationing whenever so I don't expect her to go to one but if there's one fighter on the U._C. Roster right now aileen her but we have to like and she runs through Spencer at U._S._C. to forty and gets the the immediate rematch Amanda Nunez. I don't think he's leaving the U._F._C.. Hey I'm your editor in chief. The verge host of the verge cast revamping the more and more lately and coming out episodes twice a week sometimes even at third bonus episode on Tuesdays and talked to influential people around the world of Tech like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and other tags like founder of Lime Scooters The C._E._o.. 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Is With people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin we talk about how they got to where they are today and how their work is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribe for a free to be the first to hear them on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP <hes> and then finally what is your take on one generally form U._C.. Fighters like Brandon harassing the love it but Chachi Tree Seems as trustworthy as Pinocchio Dana Now before you came back I said the Wayne they're weighing thing where they don't show the Wayans on they don't broadcast early morning winds and everything. I'm not a big fan of that especially because they you know they have that rule where like getty ours is basically finding a one seventy or finding a way class above but calling it something else and now you always hear like yeah. This fighter isn't supposed to cut way but he's definitely cutting weight so it's like Eddie Alvarez fighting like one hundred eighty five pound fighter at one seventy. I don't like that whatsoever. <hes> self-regulations also another story. I know I will chope was on facebook like just rinsing them saying like he he basically like if they make the rules they can bend the rules and just do whatever whatever they want so the one thing is real weird for me but I'd like to hear your opinion yeah. There's a lot of sketchy things about you know the way one runs things. <hes> the Wayne's for one is is weird because you as fighters I would. Do you know how much your opponent Wade. They have no clue no I. I think that's kind of important. That's why there's weight classes but look the one is growing and one is down a pay person that you can't really find in the local circuit plus if you have leverage if you're a big name say like Dimitrius Johnson Sage North Cut Eddie Alvarez they're willing to to to accommodate you just as his belt or does just as any promotion does to any value valuable assets so if you can be valuable for them of course you're gonNA be happy because you're probably GonNa make good money. They'll probably from you. <hes> and you'll probably have a little bit more say about your future than you would in a larger company like the E._S._p._N.. Networks the truth across across like any other major company even outside of sports or may right so I think for for a lot of fighters it is a good vehicle. It is a good a good promotion to two five four hundred percent <hes> competitions good and and then I I like. I like the Moi Thai Kick Boxing M._M._A.. Style or like virus could be all three if they want but we're running real close on time so we're going to move along because we also have to jump to twitter even got a chance G._D._R.. Good afternoon guys from Rob Hollands <hes> even after a good one punch wind. G._D._R.'s still getting heat even though she has zero to do with the stoppage by her. What do you think is the best path for her to win back the fans? Does she wait for Nunez or does she take another fight. Stay more active and of course. What did you guys think of the Finnish hated finish? <hes> hated the finish because it was. I thought it was premature but it's always like did the referee just step in to save her because at the end of the day no unnecessary damage is what they're trying to protect the if I'd from that so did he stop it at the right time. It didn't look like it but I get it because she hurt her back was to G._D._R.. Like she was like her hands around. The cameras in her back was there she wasn't out but maybe three or four more punches than she'd go to sleep. I didn't like the stoppage because as soon as it happened. I'm like well. That's that's not what G._D._R. Needs. Germain durant me that is the last thing she needs is another wonky finish and another weird win so what she needs to do to win back the fans. I don't think you need to do anything thing because the fans shouldn't be against her in the first place <hes> and if I'm her I have to wait for the Chris cyborg Spencer fight because whoever wins that will probably fight a man in Nunez and if Amanda Nunez doesn't WanNa fight say cyborgs loses and she doesn't WanNa fight a one forty-five anymore because that is the only one inches her then she'll she should fight Germane to randomly. I think major enemies the clear cut number contender bantamweight in my opinion. Juliana pain has been racking rattling at the door but I think we have to wait for U._C.. To forty ready for the CYBORG fight before we can really see what's next for both divisions yeah I am. I see your point as far as like that's the last thing she needed. An and I think you know obviously has value. I think <unk> you make good point but I would. I would actually offer a different point of view. I actually think that this finishes is probably hopes earn is not exactly what she needed but Germain is developing whether she wanted or not she's developing a type of personality or character within anime about <hes> kind of being a villain and <hes> she's done well in the sense of like look dissociating vans and being like a look. <hes> you know like you guys say whatever you WanNa do me <hes> and and I don't share I don't see it that way but like her not fighting Cyborg and saying no I'm GonNa take care of my injuries which is very common wins. Fighters reached the title. I mean enters what is about to get surgery right. Comorros Munn <hes> is just healing from surgery centers very normal for fighters to win abound be like eight. I'M GONNA take care of my body right now. <hes> because a lot of fighters destroyed their body to get there so I'm not hating on Germain for that but a lot of fans are and I feel like her brand is is is getting bigger because of that mean Josh washing made a career out of being hated <hes> so you know it's always nice to have fans being on your side but you know having fans being on the other side of the fence. It's not really all that bad. Either you know ultimately your voice to make money and get opportunity so <hes> she did her job. She got you know it was a solid performance. It was on the ref that stopped the fight. Actually don't really disagree. I thought it was premature but I don't really disagree with it all that much. I think <hes> Lad was not intelligently defending herself. She had her hands on the ground. Not covering covering her face wasn't even looking at the opponent and if I was stopped she had like this blank. Look on her face. <hes> maybe she would have fought out of it. Maybe not we've seen fighters. Fight out of even worse positions were states but the fact is that Germain landed dropped her her <hes> and caused damage so <hes> I actually definitely see a path for her to fight for the bell at one thirty five so again. A lot depends on what the CYBORG does <hes> upcoming fight but I think J._D.. Germain is a huge player there and well. I agree with you that villains the world needs villains like in the professional wrestling world like villains or like you need those like Josh contract. We just talked about shale. Son is a great prizefighter. He made himself a great price started because he played the villain. Germane to randomly is such a likable person when you interview in like I interviewed her in Denver and she was crying in her post fight scrum because you said she needed healer injuries areas and stuff. I don't know if you remember that but she said she got an eye injury and camp in almost lost her I like she almost went completely blind in or I so she's like I might not have never fought again and it hit you could see that moment hit her. Where not only did I fight but I I one and she was crying? She's like I love. I Love Martial Arts so much I just love love everything about it so I get it but Germain is not gonna do that at if it did if he did it would come off so disingenuous I to me as I'm like what are you doing. You're such like you're so nice that you being mean just doesn't seem real to me. I mean I I feel like that's that falls on the fan base like she doesn't have to change who she is in all of the sudden mean in being rude but like I don't know if you remember not not so long ago Daniel Cormier wasn't the most popular fighter out there he was aided on a lot and this is due to that was just wanted to compete and do his best in he put it on the line every single time yet fans hated him because you'd really be joined Jones and this in that now all of a sudden becoming Cham- champion and all this he's kind of changed public perception now. He's I think the fans are appreciating are appreciating him a lot more but you know I don't think Germane has to be like this evil person for her to sort of take that torch search and I I think as long as 'cause I know like <unk>. She did several interviews where she'd be like yeah like I'm getting all these comments in their affecting me like we're told me to kill myself and like all these horrible things that people are mean on the Internet meant but if she can shut that off and just keep she doing her thing and if this is the way the chips are falling row with I mean at the end of the day the sports entertainment so <hes> you know whether they want to see your loser. They WanNa see you win. We'll matters as they want to see you fight so <hes> she's got yeah. I mean you're not wrong. I just yeah former featherweight champion Germane to random neither as mention that she was the inaugural never fought so if she gets to fight for a second belt and actually have a great performance in I also I just liked that fight like Germain Amanda. I'd just like that fight again yeah. I think that's another high level. Martial arts fighting where they were years ago is they're not the same fighter people are blinded by because I do think think like the way she may be phrased things in the way. She handled things when she wanted to title was a little off like I think those comments would probably served better. Maybe like a few weeks down the road not immediately in the post fight speech whereas like you know. I don't really have plans of defending the belt. Nonetheless manages forgot what I was going with this. Oh how I remember <hes> fans are blinded by that but Germain is actually a bad ass fighter jets raiders super good and she's got tons of power. She throws hard. She's very technical like she's legit man. I love watching her fight. Yeah I would. I was not upset. She headlines that that Sacramento Card I. I was more upset that we didn't if I didn't last longer her because I enjoy I also enjoy watching Asmara fight like I just wanted to watch a high level. martial-arts fight between two great fighters through five rounds but moving along because we still have a few questions we had about ten fifty minutes left and I do WanNa get to twitter hotmail of automated appearance at belt or to twenty four but no plans for his title defence were announced. What is your guest? Who is he going to fight next really well? I think the answer is he's GonNa fight the winner of Machida Gig on Masasi rematch I he was on the record saying that he would he wouldn't blame ballots. Let's or if they had the immediate rematch would be him and moves aussie because massage. You had that long run. It was a very close like a lot of people might escorted from a lot of people started for vodka. I Know Thomas was on record saying it's not an upset like lucky played the path south for Levato to win. He Levada saying he has no problem. Rematch in Moose Ossie we saw sea gets his long awaited long desire rematch against Machida. I think the winter that no-brainer fights Hafi Levada next. Agree with Bingo look at that you're welcome Delatour <hes> but final question on the site hey guys when when this question was asked in the past for multiple posters was brushed off the vague. We ain't going anywhere type of rhetoric but I'll be more specific. Can you elaborate on why majority of the top tired talent has partways fighting DOT com. I'm not insult anyone. That's the works there but it's strange an actual answer in any way with what can be said would be appreciated. Thank you and I will say I I asked them. I it's not my it's not my place to tell tell you guys why Sean Shock Dave Luke Aren't here so ask them and they'll give you because they have their reasons. I think I think you should they they should she wants to tell you guys I mean I don't really understand the question a little bit confused because I mean you're looking at the top talent so I'm just getting I mean I it's. It's obvious like you know we've. We've lost some people in the last few months <hes> <hes> but I I think that's the way the world works like. I have friends that. Are you know in working in media right now. They've been at a company for years now. They're looking go elsewhere. <hes> nothing last forever man like people move around people change jobs that that that's what happens <hes> I think everyone that has left as always like been as posted something on twitter has has opened up about their departure. Whatever so I guess everybody has personal recent so you can ask them <hes> but you know this? The wait is in an I. I understand the concern. I think people are worried about emmy fighting because for so long this has been a a community where you can come in. Get Your News but not only that you hop in the comments. You know I mean just right now. We're we're addressing our community from any fighting writing and all I can say is that that's still won't change will still be producing topnotch content. <hes> we still have you know super talented team and not only that we still have one of the biggest teams intimate <hes> and wherever you look at it in every area we got there Lyn. She's the most bad ass a photographer in enemy. <hes> probably in sports period <hes> videography we casey lied. WHO's another bad US always kills it? <hes> you're doing a great job with the with the a side in continuing to step up in other areas as well. We got the bad boy that is man in emanate me on his you go to Europe. We got the baddest journalist as well in in the European seeing. I don't need to talk about Brazil. Germany cruise is a bee's over there. <hes> Dan Martin due to that has been writing and working may media before I even got into it <hes>. Who Am I missing here <hes> we got? We got a very talented crew <hes> you got me as well. I'm around here so <hes> this is a great team mm-hmm and we're going to still be producing great content so that will be fun and I also don't like speaking for because like I'm still like everyone that left. You and I are still really good friends with is there's literally no animosity between the site on us like vice. I liked Johnston one of my really good friends. We lived in Arizona. I talk to mark about professional wrestling literally every single day on twitter <hes> and I know when you join the athletic you right everyone that joins the athletic Hasta right along piece on why they the athletic athletic so if you WanNa know why Chuck Sean or out the athletic now they literally wrote out why they why they're there and then Luke is doing his thing at showtime happy for him and his family and he kind of explained it <hes> like the yeah he explained it. You were there obviously so also. I don't like I personally don't like speaking for people because I'm not and I don't want to put words in their mouth and they come back and say hey. Why did you say this? I'm like so ask them <hes> but we're dump to twitter really quickly because we got honorific makes you forgot about another G.. Mike's you've had a beautiful man. Jose and Danny updates any update on fights for one Josie alday or Gregor Gillespie and what do you think of Gillespie versus although or Gillespie versus due Bronx Oliveira at one fifty five so I have been saying for everglades fevers Charlie varies the fight that I personally want to watch my not make sense in terms of ranking title contention. I WANNA watch that fight. I think that's Greg. Gillespie has a lot of questions like how would you do against. It's a high level black belt. There's questions how Charlie Hairdo against high level wrestler I just want to watch that fight to Angeles questions and I think Josie album should stay one forty five and knock up to one fifty five. I'm I'm I'm the opposite man I think all does has a lot of fun fights. I'm fifty five. That's where I wanNA see him and at this point after losing to Vulcan off ski and having those two losses to Max <hes> I just don't I guess maybe there is a path of Frankie. Edgar picks up a win. Maybe there's a path it back to the title but right now I. I don't really see it. <hes> I would pick Max Holloway to win that fight. Although Frankie eggers always game. I can't can't discard that but I'd like to see him test. The waters a one fifty five way cutting when when you're already in your thirties can can always hinder your performance you don't know until you go up. Wake less and find out so go up to fifty five have a fun fight in N._C.. See what happens worse comes to worse. You just dropped back to one forty five like you never left so <hes>. I'd like to see although when fifty five it's far as Gregory Gillespie <unk> a Molin signed me up I think they're both ranked at this point at fifty five of their definitely the top fifteen in I think Charles Oliveira finally his crazy ideas of going back to one forty five are already gone I think I I think he's already establishing himself in that way clus. Oh Yeah I'm all for it. I don't think Charlie bear is GONNA go one forty five as long as winning because he has the right deflect most emissions must performance but in every post vice speech I think he he always makes a case for for a drop which is ridiculous. It's like you just you don't realize just picked up a victory at one fifty five right so yeah I think and I get out every there's a lot of fun fights that Josie could take two five but I wanna see see Joseph. I Brian Ortega. I want rematch Korean Zombie Frankie Edgar wins. He has two wins over Frankie Edgar to like five round decisions. There's still a lot of fun fights at one forty five. I want to see Joe's Aldo take one forty five is super exciting and then obviously that cub Swanson fight that everybody keeps calling for a rematch imagine krone gracie versus Josie Aldo like I love everything about it so there's fights at both but all this jumping up and down like there's a lot of huge one fifty five hundred Josie Allos not that big so if he if he can make one forty healthy. I wanted to say at one forty five because I selfishly WANNA see but we're out of time. It's eleven o'clock Danny. I know you watch the side every single week. You know what time you get your Promo. The floors your Sir so <hes> this is a little bit of what we addressed earlier <hes> but I I kinda WanNa take it a little more broad. In just outside of the Algebra Sterling Lean Henry pseudo favor just benefited situation guys wake up open your eyes. Take the red pill all right. Move your eyelids back in look around M._M._A.. Is No longer a sport. You'RE GONNA come on come at me on twitter and be like age but he's not in the rankings but you know he's not in the top ten but he's forty years old but this but the layoff look Dan Henderson got title shot being outside of the top ten being one in one all right Connor McGregor didn't WanNa fight for <hes> what two years also assaulted some people in a bus <hes> got into a bunch of trouble and then you got to headline one of the biggest the biggest paper type of unanimity history <hes> I can keep going down the list brock listener held division hostage this summer just because there might have been a possibility for him return. He hadn't fighting forever also is win over mark on his last win was questionable <hes> Matt I can just sit here in keep going on and on and on and on for days guess what Tony Ferguson the man has been in the fetus since two thousand thirteen. I was still in college didn't even know what I was doing. Nowadays amid tax paying adult that pays rent utilities cleans apartment in meal prep since Sunday and the dude still undefeated and it still hasn't gotten a title shot so guess what this is not a sport. This is sports entertainment so wake up if you're still using rankings as a look but this guy deserves that this guy this them enemy that you knew from from six seven years ago is not the same not the same way that we see today sports entertainment. If you can sell you can get a fight so I just wanted to get that get that. I thought it was pretty clear at this point. I thought you know in twenty nineteen. We kind of know how things work but apparently a lot of people don't so I just had to get that out of my chest. Well said Sir so my and I agree with you. I like I still view it as a sport but when I do fantasy matchmaking like Cynthia Calvillo came at me on twitter this recently because I said <hes> she should fight van Buren who just picked up big fight at U._C.. Sacramento and she's like she's not even ranked. She has one fight. I'm like I get it. I just like high level. Martial arts like it doesn't make sense <hes>. We're getting the timer that we have to go and I'm going to say we didn't even get talked about U._C.. San Antonio Edwards fights and Saturday seventy five win streak if he wins and call Covington wins called Communist by Leeann Edwards should finally get look for revenge that three pieces of Sodium Mazal and the winner of that gets the winner of Kobe content and Komo news been but at the end of the cul becoming us to fight Robbie lawler no chance there's no guarantee he wins that fight. That's Promo Danny. Were we've gone a little bit over time. I'm getting so we have to go so until still next week. 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"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. Your welcome is brought to you for free today by our friends at Bet. Online march has arrived. And we're only weeks away from the big tournament head over to Bet Online DOT AG and sign up for your online's one hundred thousand dollar bracket madness. Starting on March Fifteenth. Get in the mix at that online dot. Ag and use the Promo Code. Podcast one for your fifty percent. Welcome bonus that online you're online sportsbook. Experts and the exclusive partner of podcast. One Sports Net. Too Bad guy coach snort. Even this guy what's happening guys happy Wednesday and thank you for joining another special episode of your welcome. Dust Emporia came out and this is about two weeks ago right. I'm a little late on this one. But it's actually taking me about two weeks to formulate a thought on this but dustin poor who has fought both just engaging and Khabib came out and said that of everybody in division matchup style. Wise just engage. He has the best chance to be could be and anybody can have an opinion. You guys meet. We can all have an opinion to get an opinion from a world champion and just engage you who has been in there with both of those guys that's a whole `nother level of opinion and Pori didn't go as far as to say he was predicting just engaging he was very careful with his words and he just said the just engaged. She has the best chance. Okay let's think about that. I do we agree. We acknowledged that he is in a more sophisticated situation to make judgment than we are. But we are going to condescendingly. Arrogantly wonder if his assessment is right. Okay so let's start with that secondly we have to come to the question of if gauges to beat. How does he do it? And I think that's where things get very fun because in many ways I feel that's a different match. Look the first thing you have to do with Khabib is find a guy who can match that pace if you can't match the pace you really can't go any further in your analysis and if you're a really lazy guy you'll then throw out the punchers chance but it is very tough because could be one of the few athletes. Athletes athletes not just fires one of the few athletes that has found a way to weaponize pace. So before you ever get to the punches and kicks and grappling and the submission holds you have to acknowledge his greatest weapon which is how active and aggressive. He's going to be if you can't match that you've got a tremendous problem. So right away can you know just engaging is not going to out pace could be but we'll just engaged match that pace for at least fifteen minutes at twenty five minute fight. He could drag ass he can gut it out. He could push through the other ten. So we got to win three rounds. Can he do the? Yeah I think you can particularly with the analysis that I just gave the only needs to do it for fifty minutes. He was hanging there for twenty-five but he's got to build a match. Could be throws five jabs. Can Justin throw five back to take a shot can just take a shot back? One thing that happens with Kabibi. Nobody tries to take him down there. Respect is wrestling so much they go into the fight and try to think defensively. How can I stop him from taking me? Down as opposed to the other side of the coin was just how do I take him down? One reason John Jones has done so well against wrestlers is. John Never played that game he never went into training camper. Howdy mindset of okay. This guy's a more decorated wrestler than me. How do I keep distance? How do I threaten e? How do I threaten uppercuts? How do I keep my back off the feds to avoid being taken down Johnson? What I'm GonNa take his ass down. That's something he's not expecting me to do. And by the way should I succeed? I don't have to worry about a takedown because there was a takedown. Oh by the way. It's mined very interesting but John is one of the only guys to go out and do that. John did it in large part for the wrong reasons. He had a great striker that he wanted to strike with him. He did it to show the world. I could beat this guy at his best game either way. John was correct strategically in that it caught opponents off guard. Everybody knows going if here's the deal. Here's what you're good at. Here's what I could add. Here's what you're going to try to stop me from doing. His women try. Stop you from doing John. I guy of any notoriety level of six to actually flip that Scrim. The reason I bring John into this because we if we look at Gateway Gateway while being a great wrestler. I do not suggest for you is going to go out and Russell Compete. I don't suggest that doesn't wrestle. Anyone which drives me crazy tries to crazy because I followed his wrestling career at northern Colorado. I watched him give fifth in the country and then I watched him get away from it. And just fall in love with being a brawler. He's been so fun and so many people love for but I think there's a balance in there somewhere. I do think you're going to invite could be a great way as opposed to being defensive while using the defensive mindset. Just go back to what Vince. Lombardi wants set famously. The best defense is a good offense. That's true defence. A wonderful thing. But it's even better if you don't ever need to use it 'cause you're on the attack. That's what Vince Lombardi was saying. So how is he going to be could be? That's still the question if we acknowledged that he could keep up with. Conceives pays for at least three rounds but I think then we also have to tip our hat to be the justice not going to go and take him down and out wrestling because Justin isn't going to try so then the question becomes what of Kabaeva so good as everybody who's been in the practice from claims that he is as everybody who's ever sat in their living room and watched him opponent down after opponent. Down keep them there round after round and bludgeon them. Is he good enough to do that to gay Chee and if he is engaged scrambling to get back to his feet? I think that's where we start to get in the Ex's knows and if you're a betting man that's what you're going to start asking yourself before you part with your money now. Let's just say the Justin is in here would be the final question if he is and he can keep this fight standing match the pace not back to keep his back off the fence. I say keep his back off the fence even before I say get taken down and get mauled because beepers not take anybody down until he pushes you into the fence so if you could just keep your back off the fence your chances of getting taken down and mall get a lot better okay in a standup battle. A purely stand up battle fisticuffs. Do you believe that Justin Gage? You can get the best of Khabib go back and look at how many people just knocked out versus how many vivas knocked out. You'd be fine to say yes. I favor that to Justin. Okay great but you're going to have plenty of people to take that action because one reason you haven't seen could be doing. This could never needed to do it. His plan has always worked in the one time that we've seen him stuck on his feet. I know he got criticized for his stand in the AL quantify. That's just not what I saw. What I saw was allied clinic giving could beat the hardest fight of his life. I saw could be protected himself and firing back. I saw al. Who's a straight up tough-guy streetfighter who brings it into the professional ring? Not Winning as many of those exchanges as could be but welcome was being teased by many because of how basic is skilled guys. It's basics that win championships. I just saw something else. I thought it'd be great. Quite frankly. He played the game to the highest level. The game I hit you and you don't hit me. That's the game could be played. I thought he looked like he could strike to support my theory of which most people are going to push back on to support my theory after they push back within just remind you when he got stuck on his feet with Conor McGregor. Who had just come off thirty minutes with Floyd? Floyd could've put down could be put him down and you could call that a lucky shot. Sure you could but you only have so many things to look to. In the state of as a pertains to be so on one hand you want to. Tease could be and say that his strikingly amateur even though he was winning striking. Or you want to call his shot against Connor. Lucky something that we couldn't even say for Floyd. I mean it sounds as though you're just somebody that wants to be anti Khabib standup. It just sounds a little bit interesting. So the comeback to a poor seven. I wish I would have finished his thought. I feel like Pouria created a conversation. Instead of having a conversation I feel. He created a conversation by saying that other guys in the division gateway is most likely but he didn't follow that by giving us his opinion his prediction if these two match. Are you predicting because that would be even more interesting too late at least for me? Having a guy that had been there with them both come in share. His opinion for me would be something compelling but we. Unfortunately we didn't get that far with poor. Should those guys match up? You can count on. Pori having to weigh in on that somebody by somebody at least ten different media outlets or go to call him and they're going to ask him that question of poor curcio the question but I'm still curious as to what it is. I don't know that I believe that Gates while I do believe is a top contender. I do not know that I fully believe that gauge you can give could be a harder fight than Tony's about to give them but the mere fact that we're discussing it is a compliment to Justin for sure. Tony former champion. Whether as interim champion is former champion could be current champion. So the fact that we're now discussing gauge. I think that it's very compelling. I think that is very relevant. I maintain any question. You have at one fifty five any question. The right answer is just a gauge. It seems to me that the Magomedov's in many ways might be the next Gracie's and I don't believe that anybody will ever surpass the Gracie family in the ultimate hierarchy of mixed martial arts. They did too much and they just did it at the right time and yeah there was a lot of them and they're still coming through there. Still come second and third generations are still coming through. I don't know that I believe that anybody will ever surpass them even if they have the numbers on their side. If the Gracie's have twenty family members that fought in this family has forty family members. I don't know that you can ever pass the Gracie's but let's look at what the next best thing might be if you're talking about power numbers and you're talking about bloodline and it would seem that. Moraga MEDOFF are right there in line to be number two for MMA family. Royalty I bring this up because could be younger brother was just signed and could be cousin is already signed now. I knew there was another Maga Medoff within the AFC. But I didn't know that was a relation to find that until the day when I read the article. I don't know the name nor Mogomedov out of Dagga stander even Russia's very common name it's a Smith it's a Jones to put it in American. I don't know when I see under monumental but nobody has told me it's related. It could be. I then assume it's not related to be because if it were. They would've made the claim I'm related to compete of which his cousin did not do. But now we've also got a brother in there and I do think that it's very interesting. I'M GONNA look if you draw guy from Dagestan. You're in for a hard. You draw Russian fighter. You're in for a hard. And that goes to any sport the Russians. Just take sport very very serious as a culture as a country. It's a very real thing that they win the medal count at the Olympics. It's a very very real thing to a number of powerful countries and quite frankly America's on that list to we have tremendous funding. That most of you probably don't even know about that goes into our Olympic athletes through something known as the United States. Olympic Committee tremendous funding our leaders for the longest time their leaders for the longest time. Believe it is a sign of military. Might if you can prove we have the best athletes you believe accurately or falsely that the rest of the world will then perceive you as great competitors and as fierce warriors and therefore stay out of way. Don't get in our knicks. If we can do this unarmed. Imagine we can do are. I don't know if I even agree with that. Psychology or philosophy. I don't know if I've ever looked at a battle. Between countries in the history of time and then reflected back to their medal count. I can just share with you. There are countries that at least have that philosophy Russia being one of them America being one of them China being one of them Cuba being one of them just by example Iran being one of them who really take sport serious so now. If you're driving a Russian if you're drawn a Dagestani or if you're driving a Medoff I realize don't read a book by its cover. Well sometimes you do need to. Sometimes you need to read the clues K. Not Saying you can't go best of luck to you not saying you can't go out there and get over on. I'm just suggesting for you that. If you have those three clues you can reasonably come to a conclusion of got a tough night in front of me. And that's the same reputation of the grace's have been running on from day one. If you draw a Gracie in any organization it could be from grappling a mixed martial arts. It could be from Bella tour to one to the UFC to the PF l. any organization if the last name is grace there is a respect that comes along with that but that respect comes through. You're intelligent enough to know this matters. And the family only put forward who they believe is going to come back with a trophy. We're not out here for experience. We're not out here for a good time it. We are not out here for participation. There are some people if you WANNA make that nationalistic. There are some people's that are only playing to win and I do think that it's a little bit fun quite frankly. I do think that it's a little bit wrong that I had to find out today through research on my own. The other Magomadov within the organization is causing. That should have been something that was advertised. I know people say. How do you think it wasn't advertised? We read his name. It's the same name. That's true for the Gracie's but I think that is very reasonable to just not no not not as dramatic amount of a really common. I don't know I thought that it was. I thought it was common. That we got two fighters out of the same area that have absolutely no relation. I drew that Kikuchi because nobody told me they were related. Meanwhile you got him being managed by Ronda Rousey first thing Shabazz resume is. I'm being made by Rod arousing. It seems like a good marketing ploy. It seems like something you want to get out there. I think they might have missed it. Now there's three ner Mogomedov with the old man coach at a mall in their corner. I mean it's a family affair. It's very serious business. I think it's very fun. I'm glad the Gracie's are still around. But now that we know that they're related and now we know that the third one younger brother just signed I mean come on you guys know families who's usually the toughest one who usually does the best older brother a younger brother. You ask the family. It's always older brother. That's a syndrome but who generally goes into sport and hasn't even better career the one that had somebody to look up to their entire life. That had somebody to ask questions that had somebody aspire to be like the could walk right in the living room furniture out of the way she does. Show me how you did this older brother who I admire and they take that with them. Generally the younger does better than the older. So if you're telling them we got another Nega Medoff to look forward to. I do feel it incumbent upon me to bring you. That march has arrived. And we're only weeks away from the big tournament. Yes that tournament make sure you head to bed online and open an account today. 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He said if we're talking about money. This is good for talk about drama. This is good if we're talking about a true lightweight contender. This is no good and that was the statement but now let's break that down a little bit because I don't agree with B buy. Just don't see it that way. I think he got to the three prongs right that that does do good money. That definitely has a lot of drama around but to make believe is though conor. Mcgregor isn't a true contender. I struggle with that one. I struggle with that to the highest of levels and I will fully acknowledge. Did the Kevin Lease of the world. And the just engages out there in the Tony Ferguson. I fully acknowledge. There's other guys that have done a great job. But if you can then concede back to me that Conor McGregor is also one of those guys. Now we can be logical and reasonable and now we can start to compare resumes. Conor McGregor has three world championships. One of them the so little to him. He acts like it didn't even happen. Could you even imagine being so successful at something that you forget a world championship that you want that? You don't even claim it on future resumes. That you point a term champ champ you legally have that trademarked as your own when you're actually a champ champ champ. He forgot one of them. He's acting like the interim title didn't even happen. That's the one he forgot. He caught her in a champ. Champ car's a championship jam. He'd been so successful. He left out one of his day world championships. I've seen it all fairness covered. Forty five cover. Fifty five covered seventy went into another sport is boxing. Came back a long layoff. I mean come hook or crook either way he had a long lay-off comes back. Never gets hit once stops a former world title contender. In forty seconds throws twenty punches Lynch one thousand nine hundred leaves unscathed himself by the way was at the arena. Forty minutes prior to the walk had just enough time to changes suit. Pena Cup and wrap his hands. And you're gonNA tell me. This guy isn't a legitimate contender now. I think maybe what could be meant to say is if you're if for anyone that's pushing back and saying connor is GonNa come and get the jump on me in the rematch. I'm going to beat him even worse. Should we meet up again because he did take off did leave the division he is now just returning and I have been active the entire time we as human beings do not get better at something by not doing it. That's the category that Carter's if I meanwhile have gone through. Training camp sustained very little damage. Dealt with the pressure dealt with the way cuts dealt with. And I'm even better now. If could be choosing to make that argument. I'll most definitely listen. I will also share for you. Yes there is a gap between Khabib and the field. There is a meaningful gap not only as Kabaeva Twenty eight which is very impressive. Khabib as only lost one round ever and another award that he has is could be has more ten eight rounds which represents the most dominant you can possibly be without. Having a fight stopped. He has more ten eight rounds that anybody in the history of the sport a little staff that never gets mentioned. I'm the first to bring it up credit to me but I do think that proves my point. There's a gap there. If what could be is attempting to say is before any of you get too excited over Kana Mania. Just remember who the man is if that's what he's attempting to say. We're all done here. No debate no argument. If you're trying to save it. Connor isn't a legitimate choice for number one contender. Now we're going to have to extend this conversation. Because yes he is not only because of the money and the drama which is a piece of the Pie for. There's some real purist out there that don't want ever that this is an entire pie. In having the competitiveness and having the rankings that does represent eighty percent for sure that is the majority and that is where the integrity of the sport needs to be. But you also cannot come to me. Understanding the sport with no mandate of the masses. No demand by the fans and the people to elevate push you and act as though that doesn't represent the other twenty percent so the integrity is protected. It's eighty twenty. Integrity comes first for sure but to act as though there's not another meaningful slice that the fans then get a say in. Who are the experts out there we just have to fall to the to the rankings? Every single time a few guys got a DOT COM and no no little hypertext markup language will html to get their word out there on the interwebs. Those are the guys we have to listen. No those are pretty good guys. That have a pretty good opinion. So we'll give him eighty percent of this thing but the fans also get a say the fans of a buy-in buys a ticket. He's now a shareholder when fan buys the pay per view. He's now shareholder he has bought in. He gets in opinion. The whenever I see somebody say what I'm the best guy and I should be given the opportunity. Just might be the best guy now win. Over the rankings play the game win over the rankings convinced these poindexter pins and html experience that you're the guy wants you succeeded that they're still twenty percent left. That's where the politics come in. But that's a very real part of our sport. People hear that term. They like to throw it out. They like to turn their knows about it. You can do that but you're going to be alone. You can do that and push back and hang your hat on being a pure or you can understand how the game is played conor. Mcgregor has a ranking. He has three world champion. He thinks he has to this dumb son of he thinks he has to somebody almost as a slap Colorado. Hey Connor I got good news. You're better than you think. You are a guy who's won three titles literally trademark the term Champ Champ took one of his titles away. That's how good this guy is and he most definitely satisfies that final piece of the Pie. Which is the mandate of the masses? Definitely so if Khabib meant I can still whip that guy okay great. That's actually what this is about. Could be. That's actually why we're GONNA put you to in there to see if your premise is true but to act as though connor is not a top contender. I mean that's just silly. How disrespectful can we be to a guy who showed the courage to train for eight weeks going to awake class that he does not belong against a former number one? Contender looks so good. There were now faced with two tough choices. Do we complement the guy who we don't have your Carter Hater. This is what you have to ask you. Do I compliment connor. Do I tip my hat and acknowledged man? That was something special. If the answer's no I just can't bring myself to do that. You're then left with only one other choice was just that you put down cowboy you say the cowboy underperformed cowboy. Look good out there. Cowboy never got started cowboy. You have to choose one you the tip your head to are you in salt cowboy no matter how much you dislike or whatever jealousy or envy that you share for. Connor to choose to insult cowboy so Roney who has eleven different sold distinctions with an industry who also cover two different weight. Classes two different organizations did the heavy lifting. I mean come on come on. I don't think you're very reasonable. Tip Your hat acknowledged who's next in line in all fairness you decide whether you wanted to get the opportunity. Hatreds real part of life holding the guy back is a real partner. I understand that but we're having a separate conversation. You all know me. I'm an active person. I like combat sports. I like wrestling and boxing. 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You could see where he commission would WanNa get absolutely everything in order before they came out with that. We have seen other guys who were innocent be pulled through the mud cleared up on the other side but they never get washed off particularly in today's social and digital world. Wants those articles. Come out they. Just don't go away so even use Oughta saw this and goes wait a minute. We're going to change our own policy. Nobody's making us. We don't have to do this but out of compassion and fairness we're changing our policy. We're going to see this thing through from start to finish and then make the statement including if there is absolutely no statement to make keep our mouths shut and let this athlete move on with his integrity intact really appropriate way to do things no athletic commission as a whole have not gone to that at least not publicly saying that. We're going to follow in those footsteps. But you could see where if if it has to be used here because we really don't know if that were the case you can see where that would be appropriate. You can see where okay full transparency hold on. Do Your investigation. They'll listen. You could see where that would be appropriate. I only offer that because a lot of people are very upset. The Athletic Commission is being so on this but to finish my thought two days ago when this first broke one thing. We didn't know who is being looked at. We know the Tito Alberto del Rio contest is the one question there. But are both of these guys being looked at which would lead you to believe. This was a work match or as only Tito being looked at which would then leave you with very few options as well. Your few options would be administratively. Did he fill something out wrong? On the form did he forge a form? Did he forge a doctor's name on the phone? I don't think this is what it is. I'm not trying to be silly. I'm just trying to offer you guys. There's only a couple of things administratively that could possibly happen to get a fight overturned. That happened three months ago so tito came out and clear this up for everybody and he didn't do it on purpose but he came out and he said this is all B. S. Very cheap way for people to get attention at my expense. Hashtag guilty until proven innocent with a one minute he achieved doing that is leading us. No no no focus on Alberto del Rio whatsoever so you can take the work fight right off the table full focus on Tito which brings you back to something administratively. That had to happen. Which only has to do with forms and a drug test. So there's not a whole lot of room here to let this fall. Generally in one of these situations an athlete would very clearly be advised. Get in front of the story. This is not going to stay secret. This is going to come out. Get out in front of this. It also came up. This is not just a brand new revelation. The Texas Athletic Commission had also come up that Tito was actually suspended by the ABC. That suspension has ended. I want to say it ended on the last day of January but even if I look at that it still seems as though. We don't have something to terrible wrong here for Tito. Which is where. I'm not comfortable and coming out and prediction. That was a drug test fail. I'm just not comfortable in that yet. That fight and this is off the top of my head. But I'm pretty good at this things. That fight happened on November seventh. If I'm very sure that I'm right that it was early November. So let's say he got flagged when he got jammed up in something he was given. A suspension is shockingly that. Stay quiet and if anything here should hurt feelings. It's the mere fact that he was suspended in that wasn't even newsworthy. Information the fact that he could be listed on. Abc Database which is completely public and nobody even caught it to reveal it as what really should be the insult here. But let's say he did something wrong and that suspension ended in January. That's the special would have not even got into effect until the absolute earliest end of November. And more likely beginning of December so basically he served a sixty day suspension. I gotTa tell you this in. Tito's defense but I'm not the first to come out and defend. Tito but I think that he should be entitled to fair speculation if they looked at something off administratively that a drug test be that some paperwork and he got sixty days or thereabouts. It sounds as though it's going to be something that most of us are going to chalk up to a misunderstand. It does not sound as though he had an illegal drug. It does not sound as though he had a designer performance enhancing drug. I can tell you I know somebody who's very close to me. Who served a suspension was able to do extremely quietly suspension happened. No hearing no fine. No paperwork at sits on record if you want to go and look it up. But very quietly and that was because he had advil within his system and the commission was the first to say. They literally said this when they go. We bet you didn't even know that was bandaged. Guy Goes no identity may go we understand. But it is. It's on the test of popped up. We gotta do something with it. Here's the good news. That fight was four months ago. We're going to give you a three month suspension. Which means you're already suspensions already served feel free to get on with your life but just no. You can't do that. It would appear to me that Tito has something a little bit silly like that within his system. I don't think Tito has something that we're gonna be mad and outraged and really stick it to him. I don't think it's one of those situations. I will share though it would seem as if it was something very small and you're suspended and you serve your suspension. You know the story is GonNa come out. If it was minor you would want to get in front of it. If it was larger you would definitely want to get in front of it. But if an athletic commission who was making that decision for any reason called you up and said Hey. Let's keep this quiet between us. It would be helpful if you didn't say anything. Let us do our investigation. Perhaps ask him a couple of guys hands behind his back to I. Think in the final analysis here we need more information and we can pile on. Tito but it just. It doesn't sound like now is the time. It doesn't sound like that's appropriate. It sounds like we need more information is there. You're listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan this is your welcome with jail. Sunan I was surfing the dotcoms this morning. And whatever I get an article from somebody I like to credit that website in all fairness. I can't recall where got this. But it must have been mania or bloody elbow. Those are my two sources but the headline without reading the article. The headline was Dana. White continues to press forward with CONOR McGregor versus could be if could be Beats Tony. Okay now in fairness I did not read the article. I read the headline and it is one of those situations where I feel like. I know what was in the article and I will tell you. I am so surprised to be wrong on this one. My prediction for you. When this narrative I started which was long before connor even return to the cage against Cowboy. It was it was perpetuated during the build up to connor versus cowboy. But that was that. If conner wins this is going to qualify for a championship fight at one hundred and fifty five pounds so this is nothing new. This was well disclosed to everybody. The part where I thought. Dana will rethink. This is when he gets a calendar out and simply realizes we're in January co BIEB versus. Tony isn't up until April and by the way Ramadan happens and could be doesn't return win or lose against Tony Until September. I just did a think that time line was going to match up with what Dan Lewis. Final decision would be. I'm still ready to maintain that I'm just less bullish on it. It sounds though everybody wants to just wait now. I have no problem with that fight. I've been a little surprised at some people. Do that. Fight WAS AWESOME. The first time it was very clear that in certain positions could be was absolutely dominant but could be also suffered the one and only loss of around in his entire career and for compete to get connor to those positions. He had to work a lot harder than he thought he was going to have to. I'm talking about some of the wrestling. Exchanges it was very clear to me how well connor was doing and the little tiny things that he could do to stuff and stop some of those take downs then having X. amount of time two years. Let's call it broad stroke to perfect that and go in and change. I'm just saying there's enough there to captivate you to believe that you could get a different outcome now. I'm not asking you to believe that. Connor could win. I'm just pushing back on the idea. That connor is it. The right guy to be given an opportunity to try to win. That has surprised me. Also not my larger argument. My larger argument would simply be codified. Somebody before he fights could be. Does Connor fight you? Can you can answer this even easier. It wanted to have to be somebody before. Could be as simple as this does Conor McGregor and don't forget to go back to January twentieth. The night that he fought. Donald does Conor McGregor fight. Before mid September of two thousand and twenty. My answer would be yes in here. We are in March six weeks removed from the Connor Cowboy. I'm still stuck on yes. I can't believe we're going to wait. But if you were to push back and say okay where is he fight because it is as simple as getting a calendar outlook the paper? He's fighting on pay per view. We know that much we also can look at the pay per views it had been announced prior to September. My goodness they're full. They're headlining spots are full. It is quite a year to be a fight fan so that would mean that we would have to do similar to what happened in January four connor versus cowboy which is pulling data out of the hat. Okay already tested. That theory already proved that that's going to work if connors at the top of the bill but it doesn't look as though that's what's going to happen and if a decision is not made in the short term. I mean don't forget connor cowboys six weeks ago. Okay beep. Tony is six weeks from now. Make seven to be exact. If a decision is not made within those seven weeks on what to do with connor it would appear even stronger. That connor is going to sit in the batter's box and wait for beep at just seems like a really big gamble to me. 'cause now you're betting that could be is going to be Tony. It's a gamble being made by a gamble her so I understand the entire thing I would just share with you that at that point in time after the April eighteenth fight between could be even. Tony is almost a little late in the game to then pull cornerback and find an opponent that Gates Year Kevin Lee or any which way you want to go with. Connor because what also happens is a byproduct would mean a gateway or a Nate Diaz or a Kevin Lee. Some of your top suspects are what that would be a long time to keep a star like just engage yet. It's a long time to keep the starlight Conor McGregor out generally speaking. I would just push back. I don't think that's going to play out. It's starting to look like that's going to play out which is interesting to me and I have to tell you a little bit disappointed. I I am bit by the Carter bug like everybody else. There's something very fun about the sport when Congress part of it the fact that connor could be sitting on this islands and look. That's a great fight and we're going to have a ton of fun with it. But the fact that connor could be sitting on the sidelines when he's licensed and trained up in says. I want put me in coach. It seems like when you have those ingredients you gotta grab the Star and you got to put him in the game. It would just seem. But as time ticks down look there could also be the big reveal by the genius being set up here could be could be could be could be the next time we see a pay per view. Boom they drop a trailer. It's connor versus fill in the blank. H. E. D. Whoever it's going to be fill in the blank both guys available little odd that neither one of them has anything else going on right now. I mean that could also be for the shock and moment right you give the swerve than you. Give the crowd exactly what they want. Never what they expected but always what they want number one rule in promotion. Give the fans what they want. Don't give them what they expect that it could be that. But I would tell you what. I'm not a conspiracy theorist I am more in line still to believe that then to believe the conor. Mcgregor is going to sit out until mid September. It seems as though I have all the evidence that I need for some reason. I am refusing to swallow it. Are you guys with me on that? But let me ask you a real simple question. And it isn't should connor fight could be isn't will connor. Fight could be a little bit easier. Here's the question. Will Karma Great. Yes or no in your opinion well. Kara McGregor fight before mid September of two thousand twenty. The answer is yes. We know the rest of the equation vigorito bed. Evita's go out and fight me. This was a mess. This re this really was a mess. Let's start at the beginning. I'm telling you a story that I'm well aware that you most likely know. Allow me to condescend to you in case you been on vacation and you haven't had an internet connection. You're not caught up to speed but going into this fight okay. This is for the vacated Flyweight Championship. This is for Dimitrius as old bell. This is who does all belt in that order so who to walk away from this thing goes up to one thirty five. So they're going to go and fight for this. This was very meaningful storyline wise for the entire division K. That division has been in the hot seat for a meaningful period of time to the point that there was even rumors going around that the entire division all the paperwork literally the contract of every hundred twenty-five powder was going to be sold to another organization from one F C Two world series of fighting now known as the PF L. These rumors were out there and really weren't enlarge part being disputed by anybody generally whether some smoke there's some fire but it was a little bit clear that you'll see what they wanted to do with this division insert. Henry pseudo king of courage comes along and all of a sudden people want to see him fight. If he's fighting one twenty-five nobody gives a damn we WANNA see him. Boom one twenty five Henry goes and becomes a CHAMP CHAMP. Leaves the division all right. I know that I've caught a senator. That was painfully boring. For most of you hardcore fans 'cause you know the story but it's extremely relative refraining new listener because absent of Henry Sugimoto who is credited with saving the Division K. When he leaves it would leave you to believe that the divisions go wait no not so fast. Data had different ideas in this largely came from a spot of generosity in all fairness. This thing does not pencil but he understands. These are still my guys and they still worked hard and they still sacrifice for a place in this company. Whether I gotta reach into my coffers or not. I'm keep him around. I'm keeping around as long as I can't very kind and very thoughtful thing that he'll never get credit for but that's what happened here. So you bring in a stud like Ben Evita's now this is going to go fight. Vigorito Figueredo is a straight up killer foreshore but it would seem that Bene- Venus just is a little better at everything. I'm maybe I'm only sharing my own opinion here. But Joseph V. This is a fantastic fighter. And if you ever watch him it would be very very difficult for you to negatively. Critique him have you ever watched. Vitas WIN or lose matches. He wins or loses. It would still be very hard for you to come away and go okay. Here's what you need to work on. Here's what his weaknesses are. If you're an opposing coach. It's very hard to study just. Benedetto's videos and understand what strategy would be. I mean this guy can just do a little bit of everything and he can do it all night long then. Evita's is really talented guy. Didn't know a whole lot about Figueredo. Venus beat the King Henry Pseudo before it seemed as though this is this is titled to come in and grabbing a lot was put on Joseph Ben Evita San. Okay listen soon to be champ. If you grab that thank you then. Light the whole division on fire. The same thing that Henry did for the boys you now need to do for the boys. And that's not really benefited vitas wheelhouse. But it's not something. He doesn't have the capability of doing. If you saw Mon Ryan and Kelly Kellyanne Ryan that shows you saw him on that you saw a lot of personnel checks choke seacrest out. Did great ratings went viral on some clips because of the Guillotine. I mean he's got this within them. It's just something he likes to do. Okay fine I just want you to understand what's going into this. Because the night before constitutes the weigh INS and figure reto doesn't make weight by a meaningful amount. It was like two and a half pounds but two pounds on one hundred twenty five pounds. You're talking over one percent of body weight now. I mean it was a meaningful amount of weight that he missed by so the fight is going to go on. History says the fight goes on the basic rule in Showbiz as the show must go on. We understand all these things. Nothing here was off color but now Figueredo cannot become champion. Even if he wins so Bellavia still gets his opportunity. He can become the champion they go out and fight and it looks as though at least from where I'm sitting. Everything is going to work itself out because bevy this is better and better. Betas is going to get the jump on. This is GonNa leave with the title. He's got a little momentum going behind him and a lot of people were very happy for him knowing that he had earned. This deserve this and this is his big moment and a lot of people that have come along the benefit is Jerry. Were very happy for what was about to happen to well. Didn't work out and it was a close fight. Figueredo just at a damn good job of understanding range so much made of a reach advantage and a height advantage and all that means is who has more of it than the other. It's not actually an advantage historically speaking but if a guy knows how to use it Tommy Hitman hearns only comes around once every thirty years a Guy John Jones only comes around once somebody that actually has reached but then knows how to use it. It's a rare thing turned out. Figueredo was damn good at knowing how to use it so he was going to the body. He was coming upstairs. I mean he he was a mess. He was a big puzzle and trying to figure it out. Ultimately didn't go his way. Figueredo wins the fight. But guess what? He doesn't win the championship. This is a mess so headlines are coming out that the whole division looms on Dana White's decisions like first off. I won't tell you that isn't factually correct. But it does carry a connotation with it. That is very unfair. That division is only around to this day because Dana White decided graciously to keep it in all fairness. This was an expense. It was a tough thing to do. He believed him. He dumped more promotion. He tried to convince people win over hearts and minds and attention to act as though he's just going to cut it like it was some cold hard business. That's just not what happened. But you can only be gracious and kind tonight so many times you can only provide the opportunity so many times I will share with. There's not another promoter that would have done this law. Don't think for a second Bob Arum or Oscar de la Hoya or even Vince McMahon. Who openly will tell anybody the only thing I will ever give. You is opportunity anything else you have to go out and do it on your own. I will give you an opportunity. You either succeed or you're completely on your own. I'll turn your contract into a paper. Air Claim Collection. Right to the trash. Can that's the way it goes. It's very cut throat thing. That's not what happened at the U. OF C. in all fairness to that division and. I'm not ready to predict for you. The division is going away. I think in many ways the vigorito fight against better fetus was a lot of fun and that was a good fight. Then go the way. I thought it was going to go but there was an action packed. Fight I think Figaro has a major. He'll heat right now. He was one of these guys who beats better Vitas and does a full victory like he had just won something he just won a contest. The contractually is not what he agreed to do and wasn't what his opponent agreed to do. It wasn't what anybody else signed up for either. I always find that part very weird. There seems to be a need for somebody who is extremely humble and as you guys hear me say that you're going to jail. You're a line from Anthony. Smith yes you would be right. Anthony Smith said this on. Espn but I tell you right now. He and I were sharing a brain on that one. Anthony Smith goes on. Espn after and he was trying to give moment but he was being a real guy. He's a commentator Anthony Smith now. He's a commentator who was also a competitor so he offers you a very different perspective and it's one of the more fun things that happens on the on the ESPN broadcast of MMA. You'll see a lot of former football. Players go winning cover football you will not see an active football player so when Anthony Smith comes out and says look you know what I needed to see. I need to see some real humility here. I don't even know if I want to talk about the XS and os of the fight. I want to talk about that celebration. I WanNa talk about the demeanor. This guy comes in breaks. The rules. Cheats doesn't suffer as he promised he would do. To the extent that Joseph Benham this did has a very clear advantage. Gets the jump on this and then celebrates all the while being fined being in violation. Leaving the title vacant leaving everybody else on the roster behind with nobody to challenge no opportunity to go after because they're still not a champion any see a little humility. Look I'm in that same spot in that same spot with Figari. Now possibly he could create so much hate and so much anger that saves the division. I mean look that division. Don't forget because I'm talking drama. Here guys Montauk. His skills go look dimitrius. Johnson looks like he's doing a video game he's doing moves. Nobody's seen before at a speed. Nobody's seen it. And he's got a gimmick and he's gotTa Look. He's got a big family. I mean there's all sorts of things there he was also just a really nice guy. Really Nice guys. Don't create a whole lot of drama where the entertainment area right now a little bit of dramas good possibly. Figueredo is out smarter than Saul. I've never spoke about it before. I'm not one hundred percent sure when I say that I'm pronouncing his name right and I'm not attempting to be condescending if I do have. I don't know this young man. There's no question because I just don't know possibly he's going to come in and save the division by being a bad guy. The one thing that division has not had a meaningful period of time so who don't fit that bill. The Matrix Dam. Sure that fit that Bill Bennett. Venus in all fairness doesn't fit the bill. This really nice guys. They're just competitors but not a whole lot to see their big fight fanny like the boom. That's your division. Because he skills they're like you've never seen anywhere else for sure. I'd in the entertainment era fighting. Come tell story to tell a story before the fight just a very real thing. So let's see where this all goes and let's see how this plays out. I think that it's a little bit hard to deny Figueredo. Being as he did win the match I think it's a little bit hard to elevator promote. Figueredo says he did not make weight for the match and historically. We've seen this a couple of times doesn't really bruise a guy too bad. I think you'll Romero is a very fine example of this. You'll Romero missed weight twice in title fights. Your Romero missed one. Two tenths of a pound. Two tenths of a pound is just not very much weight at all. But he's still nist nonetheless beats rockholt the very next night record books nowhere will ever show you L. Romero's a world shipping had. He lost the two tenths of a pound and then had that performance which he did have he would be a world champion but he was given another opportunity and he's days away from another opportunity. So there's a chance that this is figuring those big moment but I think he does need to play this wisely and I think he would be wise to take some advice from Lionheart Smith. In all fairness. We are owed an apology. He did not just make a promise and a deal with this and he did not just make a promise and a deal with the promotion. He made a promise in a deal with the fans any signed and dated it and put it a fax machine and people bought tickets to see a new champion ground. Which did not happen. Lionheart is right. Figueredo needs to put this on. Lay It on the table. I am sorry I screwed up. Here's exactly what happened and much like you'll remember. This is not going to happen again or leave the division and go up to one. Thirty five solvable. I mean there's a number of things I just feel that the story is not complete until we do get an explanation and I do tend to lean with Anthony on this one. That explanation needs to start with. I'm sorry as we started to have to take a closer look at the INS and outs of Yo l versus izzy. I mean there's a lot on this okay. There's a lot on it to the fact that you I mean let's back up your well took on cost. That was a number one contender's fight. You all came in second in a fight of the night in an amazing contest that a lot of people thought you well want a lot of people thought cost one plenty of controversy. The good for the sport cost to ends up hurt. He goes in and has a bicep surgery out of nowhere. Flu Australia sat front. Row Watch is in whitaker fight cost. It was the number one contender. Not He was gonNA fight is he's GonNa find it wherever the champion is could be whitaker's well so he's in the front row is he gets all worked up. Calls him out pieces them. Whatever happens cost accepts the fireman. He was there he'd already earned the fight. There was no wonder what's he going to accept it and then out of nowhere goes in and has surgery. Bicep like didn't really say anything to anybody it just went under. The knife was kind of one of these weird things. But then what do we do? Now what do we do with the division? Who was the number one contender? I don't know the answer to that myself because right after that happened till comes up knocks off gas slim. Whitaker had just lost. Kosta is now out wiedeman leaves. The division rockall follows him to two. Oh five dockery folsom. Who's the number one? Contender might be there until I was. I might still be right but OUGHTA Sonya called and pleaded his case to Dana Cement. Don't punish me for being champion. I don't want to just be camping. I didn't sign here as champion. I signed here to be a fighter there guys I want to fight the number one contenders out and we're going to go to something else anyway. Consider this this son of bitch nobody else wants to five turns out I do. Okay I mean that's a pretty interesting story if you're on the phone that's a hard argument to say no to particularly when you add it. Nobody wants to fight you. Well you as one of the most explosive in deceptive athletes in the entire. You have seen now history says when a great grappler takes on a great striker. The great grappler wins more time in the great striker wins. You'll find examples on both sides but history says generally it goes towards the great grappler while you're well may be the most decorated wrestler in all of them are May. He may be world and Olympic medals. He might be. It's very tough to still put him in the grappling category. When you could go watch all of his fights. And he almost never grapples. He almost never grapples. There was some story and I believe so. Yo L was on the Olympic team for Cuba for wrestling but his brother was on the Olympic team for Cuba for boxing. If I'm wrong about that. His brother was an Olympic level boxer. But I'm quite sure was actually the Olympian Point is. This is in the family. His brother probably did plenty of wrestling workouts. You went and did plenty of boxing workouts when you all made it to the pros all of a sudden. He wants to go with his hands. But you're well is extremely deceptive. If you WANNA know anything you need to know about your well. Cozy is fight with Tim Kennedy K. Go see his fight with Chris. Go see his fight with Luke Rockall. Any one of those three are the same fight. Each time. Strengthen repeat what he saves he holds back. He'll throw minutes away. He'll throw exchanges away. He will throw rounds away. He is a rope. A dope to the highest level. He is well aware. I have fifty minutes or have twenty five minutes and if it takes me nine or ten or eleven to get you a slowdown before I put my foot down and I turned into a drag car a sprint car. Then that's what I'm going to do. And that's what's so tough about fighting your well. He used to do the same thing in wrestling. It could be the Olympic tournament Olympic Games. It could be some side tournament. He's going to beat you. By one point. You could be a pretty good wrestler and B one two three points against Yoel or you could be in the Olympic semi-finals and be one two three points with your well. He's only going to do what he only score. When you have to that a theory and a motto out of Cuba they will look tired at all times. They go out of their way. They practice it. They practice looking exhausted. It's a rope a dope. It's a psychological effect. It's very hard to know what you'll has left in the tank. We've seen them in twenty twenty five minute fights. We've never seen him stop. We've seen him look exhausted but we've never seen him stop. We see them in fifteen minute fight. He looks the same way exhausted but he never stops. He setting you up at all times. It's just a little bit tough to defer to the grappler versus striker because of Izzy kickboxer. And your well being Olympic wrestler. It's very tough to default that when you're well doesn't wrestle in fights he'd rather hit you with a flying either double-leg he wrote step inside and hit you with a hook. Then he would an arm throw even though he spends most of his time. Practising double exit aren't that he's just a deceptive. Got I remember when you were? Mayor was nineteen years old representing Cuba on the world. Stage and America was scared. We had some of the top wrestlers in the world leaving the weight class. Because of this Cuban teenager we had coaches sitting down in panic mode. They can what are we going to do? And how are we going to draw the Brockett? How bracket and how do we get on the opposite sides? The Cuban they did not want him. It was just a level of athleticism. When you hear the word athleticism a lot of you are going to know. Exactly what our main and there's a few years ago. What does that word mean? What do you mean when you say that? How can you say somebody? Who's just a good athlete to find that for me? Well it does come down to strength. It does come down to speed it. Just COME DOWN TO TIMING. Does come down to explosiveness and the reason you have to always default out to. Who's a good athlete is because those things can't be taught I can teach you the arm. Spend that you'll likes to do. I could teach you the double-leg teacher the insight trip that he does not teach you how powerful explosive and fast he could turn his hips. That's just something that he has. He's one of those guys that could have gone into any sport. Most great athletes do go into other sports. Very few of the true great athletes go into wrestling. Why why would you not go play baseball or football or basketball or anything else? The me locked in a dingy basement with no windows and no water fountain. And that's you're going to spend your life and you're gonNA perform in front of. Nobody remember guy who did it but I just said why would the great athletes go do. That's why you don't see a lot of them. You're a great athlete. You pop into Russian. You're going to go really far. The same thing to be said for now that has changed greatly since nineteen ninety-three when this sports started by that I have proved my point to you guys. Most great athletes were not coming into MMA at the time. Now they are and now you're seeing why things are so incredibly different in the world of. May It's not just the techniques and the coaches. That's definitely a piece of it for sure. Also the level of athlete the caliber of athletes. The intangibles things that can't be taught as much as I wanted dote on your well for his athleticism. You got to say the same compliments passing two is the I mean. This guy moves away that you can't move. He really does. If you go see his performance with Robert Whitaker and think that you understand how great he is. You start the tape too damn late going. Watch his walkout against Robert Whitaker. We learned a lot about oughta Sonya in that walkout fifty seven thousand people largest may event of all time. He's an enemy territory fighting for his dream. Which is a world championship? Andy's the B. side which means he's walking I. It was as though nobody was there as it was as though he was back on the set of the contenders he dances to the ring in a choreographed dance with two or three of his childhood buddies in a routine that they had practiced together one time the night before performed on live TV perfectly. And I got to tell you. This thing was synchronized to the highest of lows. Great but also talked to you about his nerves. Talks to you. His head is at at talks about how he can carp mentally compartmentalize the whole thing. No what's in front of them only deal with this enjoy that moment. Then get into fisticuffs. Then go right into the Promo against cost of walk up to the SAT on. Espn plus go right back into promote. I mean he knew exactly what to do and he knew exactly when to do it by the way he moves in a way. That other guys can't move. You go watch his fight with Anderson Silva two different points in that fight and Anderson Silva moves in a way. That other guys can't do at two different points in his fight with Anderson Silva the greatest of all time for that division is. He started break dancing. This guy does stuff other people can't do. Which is the argument. I'm trying to raise for you about Yoel. Romero the bad news for your well. Romero is his great skill set of grappling. He chooses to not use chooses to stand here. You don't want to stand here without a Sonya. Many men have tried to stand here without a Sonya. They didn't get over on him. So it's a very interesting fighting while autozone you goes into this as the favourite. You can't take your eye off your well. 'cause THE PROBLEM WITH YO l why he doesn't show his skills he still gotta he chooses to not show them. He believes in a different philosophy. He believes in throwing minutes and sequences round away if some coach grabs him and slaps them a couple of times as A. We're not gonNA do that tonight. We're GONNA win every Damn Round. And he gets that through his thick head and goes out and tries to win ever rented. He brings those skills with him. He's never done this before it's just. It's not how he competes. He's very relaxed himself. He takes some time to warm up. He treats a fight like it's a hot bath puts his toe win and then the foot comes in the leg takes him a little while to get into a lot of guys are like this but if he is a coach who he respects who pulls him aside. We're not doing that tonight tonight. There's five rounds. Where all five if he does that. I'm just sharing with you. It's a big if I'm just sharing with you. You could see a yo well that you've never seen before. Is that enough to be busy? Hey if you're part with your money you go into side. There's not a whole lot of Knox that you can give but a very fair knock that you can give you from the first time. I saw him when he was nineteen years. Old Isn't he uses time and space differently. The most guys most guys will look at the time and see. How many points can I get before the bell goes off your well? We'll look at it and say how few of points do I have to get before the bell goes off. It's very unique and it has served him very well and it has taken a very far but he is one of these guys that only shows what he has to win. He has to show it. There's always that extra trick in the bag. Which is what makes every Romero fight interesting guys? I had a great weekend out here. In Oregon we had our state championship for wrestling and the way the state championship works. At least in our state we have a bunch of different divisions. We've got two three four five eight and the bigger schools are contestant. What's called six to put that in perspective when I was in school the biggest division same schools but the biggest division was only called foray. They've added two divisions over time. So it's a little bit tough. On a state level to get all of these different divisions contested in each and every sport wrestling unlike other sport does all in the same building. All in the same weekend they stagger the times of the three goes now in the state of the couple of hours later the four he comes in and five and six a and so on and so forth. Sars coach at the high school and our team did great. We sent four to the state finals. Which is school record? Most we've ever had the state. Finals was three. Destiny comes in destiny. Rodriguez she goes wins at as a freshman pens her way through the tournament. She also happens to be a world champion so a state tournament wasn't all that big of a deal but when you're in high school in your freshman you go out there and grab a crown. It's very exciting moment. I have to tell you back up so much like you guys. I think you guys can relate to this too. It feels like you're in high school yesterday and it doesn't matter if you guys are nineteen years old and you've only been out a year you're twenty five years old you've been out seven or eight years or sixty years old. It feels like it just happened. And I I gotTa Tell You my junior year which was nineteen ninety four. I went to something called the junior national. But when you go to the junior nationals. You're part of the national team. You're a national team training camp. Then you go out to Fargo. Meet up with all the other states that the best high school in the lenses so we have two teams out here in Oregon Roseburg and Newburgh and these guys have flip. Flopped who the state champion is and who second for a meaningful period of time twenty years? Nobody really slips. These guys are either golden or silver coach landers with Roseburg coach Roussel Newburgh. And by the way. These guys are best friends. They were like in each other's weddings. They were teammates in college. They were roommates in college. They now live on separate sides of the state. Competition is extremely fierce. Even though they're the best of friends so it's a really fun dynamic even to be on the outside and with us but I met these two guys coach. Russo coach landers my junior year of high school. Well I really like these guys. They were fun. They were funny. They were passionate. They got nothing for giving back to the wrestling community. They just care they were good guys. They were guys. You can look up to. These guys is like me but they treated me terrible. These guys treated me so terrible even though they liked me but this was horrible was funny about the here. Let me give you an example so I enjoy both of these guys when we go up to the junior nationals we stay in dorms at the College Fargo Dorm Fargo Dome. But we stay in dorms. Everybody does so on the very last day before you check out you spend a whole week free. Check out and fly to the airport. There's like rules and the coaches have to come around and make sure you follow the rules. Your sheets go over here. Hey you're you're towels. Go over here and your your beds gotta be made this way in the pillows over here and got everything packed and they check all the Georgia when everybody leaves. I didn't forget anything but there's just some stuff that has to happen so they come into my room. I've got everything packed. Been out there. A week of totally exhausted wrestled like eleven matches in Greco and eleven matches and freestone. And I'm ready to get home. I got my bag packed and waiting for these two guys. They walk in the room. Commerce could be and they check my bed. Check my my sheets. And they checked my towels. Chill is this your bag. I said Yeah. That's my bag and these guys knew each other so well like they could do a whole bit on you a whole routine were. They've never have to work it out ahead of time. It was like they shared a brain. These two one new at the other one was thinking so coach. Leonard says is that your bag and I said yes so he goes over and he puts the bag on the bed. Just packed. Unzips the bag. Tips it upside down. So all my stuff falls out Russo. Walks by kicks my clothes. It go flying around the room. They look back as they're headed out the door and say being the bus and ten minutes. Now that's a Dick move but that's funny. I mean that's comedy fire right there so I'm getting all my stuff back together and I see these guys the following year in Las Vegas. I'm with my mom now. I have a relationship with but I don't ever get to see him. I only get a senior national camp so the next year. We're in Vegas for the National Open. That had a high school tournament next one. I'm a senior and my mother and I used to go around Vegas and gamble. We Gamble until I got caught underage and we got thrown out. We go onto the next place and we're just playing slots if you guys ever go to Vegas now. If you go play slots and you win it will print you out a piece of paper. Well back then he would actually kick out the money so we would play quarter slots it would be kicking out cores and you go and you get this bucket and you put your quarters in there. Then that's what you took to the cashier. And they counted up. Hanjour your paper okay. So we get I get caught under. We're walking up the strip. I got the bucket of money. Full of quarters just absolutely packed. We've been playing for hours. We're walking to the neck spot that are GONNA TO TRY TO SLIP INTO. I see Roussel. Ann Landers coming down the street. I'm excited to see them. I haven't seen these guys in ten months. They don't say one word to me. They look at my mother they say. Hello Mrs Sunan. Wanted them comes to me? Smacks the bucket out of my hand. So my money's now all over the Strip with people from all over the world walking by I'm on my hands and knees trying to get this back into the bucket they're gone. This is my relationship with these two. They treat me terrible so vets can you so they treat me terrible so I gotTa tell you I get back to Fargo. I get back to the junior nationals later that year. It's like the last day and one thing that happens at the dorms. Is They lock up at eleven pm. If you're not in by eleven just automatic for Security. The doors locked down. You're not coming or going so I happened to be downstairs late midnight. Twelve thirty in the morning. What I am. I'm on a payphone. And Russell Landers can walk in there outside. They're stuck so they knock on the window and I know the deal at the door. This is my second time. Be into this event. I know good well. They can't get in there stuck and I'm the only one in the hallway so I put that phone down and I I'm protected. I'm safe. These guys are behind a bolted. Glass door I give these guys the double bird. I refuse to open the door. I dropped my pants. I moon them. I'm not flip off guy for the record. I'm not moon you guy for the record. I this is my chance to get these two back. I'm going to leave them outside in the cold of Fargo. I'm gonNA give him the. I'm yelling at them through the glass all the flashbacks of all the stuff these guys had done to me comes back. They look at each other without formative word. Rousseau reaches into his pocket pulls out a key of which I didn't know he had put it in the door door opens. And now it's just me and the two of them and no witnesses not going to be good for me. They do not say anything they walked past me without touching me once and one of them looks back and says you have a good night shale and they go upstairs so I mean it was so unexpected. I remember that moment now. I have never seen these guys together in twenty years. I see them each alone and we have a great adult relationship with each other but together it's a whole nother deal these guys walk up to me and the state. The State Term Oregon has ten thousand people. It's in our second biggest building in all of Oregon and it's packed. They come up to be one on each side and I just like just memory. Just have logs dog. I put both hands up and I- crouch over my guys. No come on. Come on. Don't do this and they're like what are you doing? Twenty years later you still acting like this twenty years later. So you fight professionally. What are you? What are you doing put? Put Your hands down on. I'll put my hands down. That's the trick. I put my hand before these absolutely and now in my case I tell you what I got a reputation. There's people here that are watching this. You can't do you got to do this another time. You can't do this. They're trying to reassure me. Well I'm trying to beg mercy. It's just a funny story. It's just a funny thing that happened to me. It was a thrill to see those guys. I'm sure you guys can relate like as you go through life and you're going to go back and see some of your coaches. It's just a fun moment. I these coaches who I always liked. Who liked me? But who picked on me? They picked on me nonstop. I'm forty years old. They're still picking on me. There was a stoppage over the weekend with two gentlemen. Tuesday names have too many syllables for me to report either of them accurately but they go out and fight and it was deemed an early stoppage. Now early stoppages at very easy default. It's a very easy one to fall back on. There's some more moving parts than your. I might show you from watching at home. Look there are guys who tried to do this rope. A dope this whole. Oh I'm hurt. They try to play this game when the referee believes that in season and stops they go. I was I was acting hurt I was. I was lured him in. It's kind of a tough spot to be. Let me let me personalize this and give you a story. And her deny we'll run into each other and laugh about this to this day but he was so irritated with me. So here's what happened. I was fighting Jason Lambert and it was for the championship of a show called gladiators challenge and I'm doing a very good job in the fight in all fairness if it's okay to say that without sounding like a jerk all I have to do at this. Point of the fight is beat the clock. I've beaten my. I'm going to win this time to run out so lambert gets me some kind of a position. It was some kind of a choke kimber. A Guillotine offers a rear naked. But wherever I was I was safe and I knew I was safe and we were in a very boring position but I did. Not WanNa herb. Who was wrapping this to break it. I wanted us to stay there. Because Lambert's hands are now tied up. He's he's tied up trying to choke me. I don't have to worry about anything and I can only tell you when an MA contest is you start to get fatigued or at any other point for that matter. There's really not anywhere to rest. I came from a wrestling background. They'll call you for stalling. They might even take point. They make you gay. There's places you can rest if you elect to do it but guys also trying to score points on you guys trying to damage you trying to hurt you. There's nowhere to take a break. I've found the one place the one place. I can take a break caught in a choke while safe while pretending to be choked so I elect to start making noises as I'm caught in the choke. I don't want her to stop us. But I know I'm safe. And I know clock's ticking down and so I- elect to start doing like this like some kind of routine like that okay. This was way back in two thousand one. Two thousand two. I don't remember it totally what the sounds were like but I'm making sounds I'm trying to sell this while watching her giving the thumbs up like hey. I'm okay I'm fighting. This sure. Hope I can hang in there long enough. So that he lets the position. Go and something happened were. Herb wasn't fallen for her. Could see the position in no that. We're just down here doing nothing. So her breaks the position and brings us back to our feet. And we've got a resume fighting at a high pace okay which my strategy which is just run. The clock out of this point becomes a little bit more difficult to do so after the fight. My Opponent Jason. Labor were the same dressing room in the back. You know no animosity and he asked me because hey by the way I just got a known that one position I had. Un was that starting to get tight. Because I can hear you making some noises and I said yeah man you got screwed now. I figured that was more like a sportsmanship thing by me. Like I was letting my opponent nose tip of the hat. You did a great job. I did a great job. No hard feelings and it was meant as of the I had no idea he was going to go back and tell her that I just told them that her screw well he does. Labor goes tells herb. Hey I just talked to that guy. That guy says that I was started tap. You broke the position so herb comes and finds me getting up working as a double agent. I'm just working. Because he's the reference. I'm doing one thing to the opponent to try. It'd be a nice guy now telling this guy one thing. This guy knows things. Okay here let me. Just come clean. Here's what happened all right. Oh trying to eat up some clock. I felt like I was safe there. I tried to sell it. Did it work on her to make him feel better? Can we all just go home funny story to This Day? I share it with you to try to personalize this to let you know. Look if a fighter is ever trying to hurt while being having an onslaught put on him ever trying to do that. The referee has every right to read those clues not to go. This guy's a good actor and he is a really work that way and I think the term early stoppage is a tough one. I do think that's tough. And I'm trying to all the golden rule of put myself in somebody else's shoes. What would I do? How would I want to be treated if I was in a referee shoes? The general rule is three unanswered strikes. We have not observed that rule since I don't know when but that was always the general broad stroke not written down anywhere. This was the general rule of guy takes three strikes and he doesn't answer the referee's then warranted at any point to step in and call the fight we've now moved to like the twelve strike rule in the fifteenth strike rule. I would just argue that early. Stoppage is a little bit of a tough claim for me to accept while I recognize that it many times. That is a real thing. I recognize that sane in a broad stroke if we're living in an era of early stoppage it seems as though that's just the new stoppage and if you're an athlete no that mentally and be prepared particularly if you're on the ground it's a little different. If you're standing up fights do get stopped on your feet. We just saw with fury versus wilder. It's a real thing we start with McGregor versus whether it's a real thing but I would challenge you write that name five other times it happened. You can do it if you really good at if you were Max Kellerman you do it off the top of your head. But it's a hard thing to say when you're on your feet when you're on the ground and you're beginning to cover. Somebody's on top of the referees. A lot more sensitive for very good reason. One guy is down for very good reason. He is a vulnerable position for very good reason. The referee is going to look at that differently. Not Arguing this case guys. I'm just encouraging you. If you're an active fighter to be aware of that to be aware of how important movement and motion is if you're on the ground I'll write guys I've had it with you. I'm headed out to Vegas for the fights but I will be broadcasting from there so be back on Friday until that op jail son and you are well. Thanks for listening to your welcome with jail. Sunan download new episodes every week at podcast. One DOT com. That's podcast. Oh any DOT com.

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Episode 164: RECAP Korean Zombie vs Frankie Edgar

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Episode 164: RECAP Korean Zombie vs Frankie Edgar

"Traded football for some here then got what tried in the face with a baby. fu-kang over the place. It with him started survivor. All this makeup the old cat sick. I'm like deathly sick it though I was thank God for cat on exactly the same. Let's call you. Ah I think everybody is chain. Goes to home like deathly figment deathly dude. You look exactly the same no. Nothing's worse than you see someone and they go you tired man. It's like Oh just tell me I look like Shit Dude. I know I look tired but also there's just a nice way it'd be like do. Do you look awful tired. No I mean you don't look good go. Are you timing. You don't look at yeah. What's the appropriate response to that and got full ten hours last night? What's up I'm just saying just like really? I always looked tired especially in the mornings because I I don't have the biggest is the water retention stuff. Yeah yeah the bags around my eyes are bad. Dude you look like death. It started getting I don't know what it is man. I don't know I listen. I don't know if I'm sick from exhausted from work. I just. It's a fine line that I- teeter on there. I'm not sure my voice talk so Goddamn much always has an issue with my throat doing on stage by the last show at lawyer Saturday night. That was tough man. I think we can tell to like. Oh yeah which one you came Friday. Yeah Friday night forty five. There's a lot of fun yellowish. A shelter La Hoya man clubs on the planet when my favorite areas if I'd have to live in L. A. for entertainment purposes. I would definitely move to La Hoya. I always said that. So we'll see might end up there one day when I can shut my fucking trap It was interesting though because Saturday night. Early Show This party came in of like twenty five people deep older white people and the shows the the shows were all sold out and the comedy stores like man. We have people call on trying to get tickets. Sold out sold out and mcadam I I can't add another showcase my voice. There's the stick to it now. I see all the incoming in. I'm like well. Where did they come from like? They bought tickets like three months ago. And like these old white people again. All right like the oneself. Would they see me on Bravo or some shit. What's up so there there and My opener Assan shutout too dangerous Brown Assan. WHO's an Indian gentlemen Indian descent born in San Francisco though so take it easy he House a reference in his opening joke about A school play that he saw where these minorities like any. No Kidding Crean kid play Nazis in some play. Here's like a Nazi reference and one of the twenty five of those old white people go. What's wrong with Nazis? What that serious and obviously the crowd like Like some people like Jesus Christ end so Assan kind of ignores it. He's just like Jesus Lady. And then you know people laugh keep going then starts heckling them. So some lighter lights are upright some old fucking bind year old titties just heckling Assan and so the staff comes up. I'm like what is what is the deal that we don't know the KI. She's in the group twenty five people to Party one of the guys like your biggest fan about tickets for everyone like Jesus Christ all right man. So sign gets off. She keeps doing. We're we're GONNA have to do something man. Garrett gets on their gets on has another like you know l.. He's a comic has like a not a racial joke. I think about probably bus and his girlfriend I forget she starts heckling Derek. Then Derek lights this old lady up. She takes a Martini glass and throws it at Derek Onstage Q.. Wash stuff yeah Offset the kick to kick the bat out and but her friends. The groups came in where I thought there was like some a white supremacist old. Weird like Nazi party some Shit. I don't know what's happening man and so They came back to America. So sorry Eh. She's drinking she's upset before and just she's going through some things as Jesus Christ man but it made for an interesting show definitely is fun just roast them for the rest of the show. It made it fun but yeah so bitch through a tin gossip Derek. It was hilarious. The whole cows come my God. God people are buner definitely her with. Ron would not these Well if funds Saturday night maybe genocide the whole I mean where do we start. Dumb Bitch. yeah it was interesting though my superstar and then it was fun though. Love it out there. State the Pendry we went to this people told me to go there. Bunch people people friends that live in San Diego and then fans you have have similar tastes so many goes place called. I posted about it. It's called Game Chins like common. Forget I tagged wrong restaurant at I o CV The Man Cross Commerce craft underscore commerce. It was fucking fantastic. mastic man but What's funny about this place? Everyone told me to go there and when you go to the bathroom it has people reading their negative of yelp reviews. It's so funny. It's like loud to somebody like this place was the worst took two hours to get a drink. Don't recommend once star. You're just over and over thought of so good. Food is so good. The Burger their best book. I've ever had. They don't have catch up and then I get the Ridi- they had this rabbi with horseradish the state tar tar the bone marrow which you would love Chin. Yes in their drinks are off the chain. The whole staffers after dime pieces. That's my spot man. Y- Best Burger. I've had best Brad San Diego. That's in San Diego not lawyer and they're not morning my my boy Greg Chapter Greg Climber who does He's a car guy. He's how you all my cars. I'm looking for a car. Whatever but he they have about car show every Saturday? In place called Rancho Santa Fe. Never been there. It's basically like Pleasantville stall rich people. But there's like this little mainstreet and they have this car showed there and it's just people in the neighborhood that have these dope ass cards. The Best Collection of cars I've ever seen on this random. The mass Saturday I mean reports can imagine Fries up the Gazoo old school classics on their their every every Saturday. They pulled him. Just sit outside. Yeah there it is cars and coffee with the courts. Arts clubs are a little strange and he had it on my brother. Drive your crop there. We we had no other way to get. Could Uber was like thirty minutes. I drove up parked at you. You know but I don't know those cars clubs are a little weird. I don't know how I feel about my brother goes to one in Denver Porsche Clubs as my dad. But it's like you didn't build it. He's Baden did nothing to do with it. So it's like I'll look at this thing that somebody else built. Check it out dudes strange me unless you actually put time and effort into it. It's weird to show off car that you have nothing to do you know. I don't know I mean he put stuff on the car right. souped it up. Who Jay He's done like exhaust header stuff. But yeah but it's just I don't know it's kind of weird through strange but there are some ridiculous cards. If you're a car guy definitely check that out. Israeli sick almost five hours to get there on Friday or Thursday. Hong Chen wasn't that bad because we came up pretty late. Two and a half. Your cat got together o two so you said you're sick. Yes sir super sick to their gave it to us. I think there's a chance of Derg. It's Gone Atlantic City. Yeah you're probably right. 'cause he was feeling like absolute crap on a moisturizer. He looked like a light. Beige yellow yellow color. You look exactly the same obstacle. You're sick dude. Yeah he was really sick man he headlined is I Show L. suddenly. Not a lot of people came out to. I was proud of him. Glad the whole Incident Old Lady throwing the Fucking Cup at them. Didn't shake them up. You know didn't shake him up at all. Oh you try to. We're we're we. We tried what's called what what's that leaker. We tried the Green Shit. I took a picture of absent absent absent. I didn't try it though. Can't help but say a list when you say if Sampson F F green fairy but I thought there's hallucinogenics in it that's like old wives tale right if you Amsterdam. There's and I think they put like an opioid in it That's what I'm trying to fuck through them. uh-huh Damn next year thinking may holidays trying to some green fairies trying to get weird probably go the red light district. Oh Yeah I bet you'd have fun out there Jin. I'm pretty uptight though so I don't know not on absence. You're not you know what I'm saying. You get loose. It'd be down a chart though hero trip style. Come out to your dude dude. Hot Sounds like fun could do that. You're a trip make out what your sister. Yeah Great Movie Great Time at Damon. scully does it no idea. We're I know I've seen the. It was so funny when they made out because they're hard core to the movies so good no one. Besides Matt Damon went on to do anything uh-huh besides the one guy who's excuses skews the sound funny. Why are your pants off? I think the robot got I. I think that's Dangle I think all the guys they WANNA fight it looks like that movie so underrated came out two hundred forty hours in a damn two thousand four hundred dollars that figures to what I was in high school. I was in college when I came out. I love that movie. That lead guy this guy which guy this guy. I'll see him anything. Anything tough go to the dime piece girl. I know she use from buffy the vampire slayer AU jus a nerdy one right. Yeah she's Oh dude. Speaking of I watch documentary last night called. Don't fuck with cats. I saw the trailer last night for the first time I watch it but I saw a trailer that thing looks have you do. Have you seen. It don't really thought you'd and watch. It looks blocked up. Well I would rather watch. Don't fuck with cats than cats cats do more damage to my psyche than this whore. I mean it's a well done documentary but it's an I listen Netflix. Don't release this around the fuck in holiday season man. I was fucked up last night. It's so dark home on. Its darkest darkest documentary you oversee. It's so dark I'm GonNa talk about it. I'm I don't want to give to expose but I suck at spoiling things so you're GonNa Watch it. You don't WanNa let me give a slight breakdown of this psychopath. Stop listening or fast forward. Probably out three four minutes. Stop listening three to do one. Don't fuck with cats spoilers and now so listen. So there's this dude right named Luca this Luca Guy Post the video and I. I remember this slightly. I don't get down with any an Ama- animal cruelty. I can't watch the murder videos. I can't watch the ISIS. I can't touch that stuff. It will ruin my fucking year. I I'm telling you I see it wants. I'm fucked up like last night's sleep this bullshit fucking documentary so so this Guy Post Video where they post the dark web idea. Post this video of him. It's like two kittens and those cute cats. That's and they put them in those like you know how like your like close suck the air out or like frozen food like inputting those plastic bag Taylor. He puts the kittens the vacuum seal and kills them. It it don't show it just shows it up to it. Has the people in the movie. Describe what happens happens. And then he does that and then it escalates to like him with a caveat and Phoenix to python And there's one him drowning a cat And so this group on facebook like fuck this dude. Let's find peace shit. Is You know when you fuck with animals. Do People do not play that game. And I'll tell you my brother go. How weird is it like? There's so many videos out there. People hurting other people or killing other people. And no one gets this riled up about I think a a Lotta people are desensitized to the fact that we've seen humans get fucked up in movies or whatever but analysts you never see it ever even movies. Don't fuck with it because it triggers people so so where this this created like some sort of rage and people so these this facebook group starts to find this fucking dude and he realizes that the that third onto him and he starts sending them videos includes like. You can't catch me. You can't catch me. It's not it's not so then obviously If you know anything about serial killers one the first signs of a serial killers. They hurt animals and then they graduate to humans. He graduates the humans in films that Senate to them. It's so intense soon it's so fucking intense and by then I'm like Oh if you ever seen Jim Carrey's Cable Guy I think written by Ben Stiller Jutta uptown ever seen cable guy. This is cable cable guy if it was a rated R. movie he's Cable Guy All he's doing he's obsessed with the movie basic instinct. All he's doing he's copying movies. He's obsessed with movies and I wanna be famous and never made it in Hollywood or he's trying to be a model on happening bro. Come on but also you know so you never made. It went super dark with it and this is how he got famous. Now if you watch you see what happens to him. I won't spell that for if you see what happens to them. I looked it up. And you see what he's doing now. Now you're what the fuck do that's not justice. It's worth seeing. But I warn you. Wait to after the holidays as to watch it is a real piece of shit. Yeah the only one they show is when the cat gets a bit by the Python. Yeah and it strange. I have no idea what to expect with this but yeah it is true. I'm saying watch it. Yeah Watch it. It's dark man. It's fucking dark by darkening the darkest you've ever seen it's just such it's like and then he had all these like fake troll account like fan clubs and then he started this rumor that he's fucking this serial killers wife like you all this. He's just obsessed. Yes he's a narcissist and again spoiler and three two one. Now you got caught a motel you guys most can watch good so dark. Bumped till you guys so he ends up taking a craigslist out as because he was a gay man so he gets his due to come to his apartment kills. The dude kills them just like Sharon stone. Kills the guy in basic instinct with icepick films. That the exact same way it was done in the movie stabs cuts his body up ships. Send it it to the Canadian government and officials and stuff like that like you can't catch me like talking shit so he's on. The run right goes to France. He goes to France. He's I think Paris and how he got he got you know worked out that he's there because the facebook group they. These people were amazing amazing. It's not the regular job. This lady was like a computer engineer. The other guy was I don't know but there's just like you know computer people and they would analyze the videos rose and broke. They broke down worries at figured out from this room that he shot killing the cats. The light the outlet that he's using the vacuum they forgot exactly where he's superior amazing And then they figured out that he would do clues like not really clues just a dumb ass but you'd copy movies. And they figured out the movie he was copying and the the way the movie ended would put him in pairs so they told the Paris police. They found him there this how they found the city at his new faces. All all over the news the studios in Wifi cafe googling himself seeing if he's on FBI most wanted. And then the owner of the store was like Catholic. Alex from Norwalk. Spies like Oh fuck notice on screen Ghulam himself was against the guy calls the cops and these fucking bad ass. Like Germany Germany's injure Bats German. COPS come in an extra back to Canada some heavy ship so she will the holidays. You know it is heavy for the High Z thing man. It's such a heavy holiday. Movie brother watched it last night. My girl didn't want any part of it soon as you saw the Catholics like no one upstairs to deepen now we're gonNA finish this out. I was form it into its three hours. Long it's three part series format. I've seen too much. I gotta get through it his mom. I'll tell you what the one of the biggest murders MOMS fucking teeth. Jesus Christ man spots teeth so that her. That's her dispense right saying some other. I do tell them to do it. He tried to end that to be made up some character. He's just compulsive liar. You love that movie castaway. If he can he dropped clues of Leonardo Katherine Katherine can. And it's interesting if you get a handle some. That darkness is interesting. But I can't sleep last night. So fucked up man. Some people are so screwed. Rude man what is wrong with people. It's insane right. I would say so. That's the guy he killed an AV hold everybody. Yes the poor guy that he killed gadgets trying to get some dick man vicious world dude. It has bom Jesus Christ then you realize something's wrong with his mom. She's willing to do this. Being this documentary. Then she wrote a book to like a fucking psycho then when they capture them. Take Him Extradite Him from Germany to Toronto. They show him like in handcuffs. He's smirking he's like smiling because he's famous. I take it easy but awfully they did documentary about yet to follow up. I was like what they're doing now. They did a whole thing in prison. He's like he's getting married in prison. Some other gay dude he's He. It's not that bad. Play a lot of video games a lot of exercise. I'm wondering a different language. When we fuck this guy man video games? Yeah I guess. I don't know he's out there playing Shitload videogames. Mario Kart and Shit and jacked off pure gay. He's in paradise doomed plane. Mark Coggins Dick Sucked Doc. l'exercise learning third language. Your hat signed me up for the gays though. Sign me up for that size of Mario Kart you feel me. Do I get my son. Let's move on it so dark Fuck that Luca guy and sweet teeth. Mom anyways My son for Christmas. I don't know he's too young for a more nervous about it but I wanna give something cool gun that Nintendo switch but the light one because they have that game that that Ryan the fucking can YouTube kid. WHO's like the Jenner toddlers? He makes more money than anybody to your this Kid Ryan Yeah. You can't miss this little bastard. So Oh he He's so rich so he has his own line of toys. Now when we walk in target my son go look at Ryan's toys and we fuck Ryan Burrow but Yeah he's killing it man. But Brian Long Story Short Ryan has a game on Nintendo. Switch like Meyer Cart. But it's Ryan's characters so got him that and Paul Patrol game to some hope. He's not too young for it fears. PABLO GONNA get. Mario Kart played himself. Yeah there it is race race with Ryan out assume. My son can do that one. We form February. It was not easy to get either. Do still to come today. Fingers across Sir. Anything of that doesn't come if they don't fucking deliver it today to give them. A nintendo switch with no games was at the worst Christmas ever. You're gonNA pull a jingle all the way try it find it in stores like hundred percent growth thereby three pm because by by one by three Papas during the jingle all the way dude come on come on to me now. Yeah so. Hopefully that comes in hopefully not too young for it and just ruins Christmas but he played at target was like super into it. It's also weird. I don't know the whole Santa Claus thing on your dad bought this dude. You'd had worked his ass up. Your Dad bought this fuck center. That ain't real homie debt. Ain't real dad tells a shitload. Oh to Dick Jokes talked about fighting and funny shit with his friends. That's how he paid for this. Santa didn't do shit can't do that though Kanye. I'm getting older. I like Christmas. Time like the family stuff. All that but holidays for kids Like especially birthdays. After twenty-six birthdays of kits holidays are kind of for family. Like the whole I like the family aspect of it but the whole gift giving things a little ridiculous. Let's be honest like did you ask for anything from your parents. Just there's no forty two to renew the you know what I'm saying. You're easy astor dad for. I'd rather not spend any money to. I would rather just do it on yourself by by yourself stuff. Don't buy anything. Let's go to dinner. I don't I don't even dinner. I don't know there's just certain age and I like these new shoes thirty six. I mean shoes kid. That's fun yeah that race with Ryan. That dude is killing. It will be seen the money. His parents are killing it for sure. It's insane what these kids are making You're seeing the video like my son. We watch channel video. Mike others the worst video. Horrible editing. The whole thing bad production lose seventy five million views. This kids probably a millionaire. Doesn't even know it. This little dude has an idea. He has no idea she's every toy in the world and he's like wow. We're moving to a mansion. Nobody Demo I see. Yeah it's GonNa be a little different right because the macaulay culkin rule for kids stars. That's that's like sagging Hollywood. H- you tubes. The Wild West didn't sag introduce like a digital the media. Vert like contract contract. You think about you. You don't sign any contract now you don't there's no we. We have agreements like preferred partners. But there's nothing I don't know I I know that you to try and make it more of a safe which is weird to me. They're trying to make it more of a safe place for kids but then they should have youtube. Keep kids like you. Can't you can't take down and edit people's videos where it's an adult arena. Just because you want more kid friendly like you know. I'm a dude with kids but it should be youtube kids like that's a different when you publish. Now they're they're asking if this is the video was made for kids in and then ask if you would like to restrict your audience from kids or not. It's there S. They're asking more questions about if it's made then if he's talking about anything like I'm sure me talking about the documentary or find the kid joke a lot about you know just wild chit or kings. Think you'll get the algorithm. They don't put that algorithm them anymore. It's crazy it's a former. It is a bummer. It's good to keep the kids safe for sure but it is but that's like nickelodeon trying to filter everybody like HP. The game of thrones with Ted so the dragons we can't have that it's like Whoa it's makes channels it's up to the parents can I like I like. I watched what my kid watches because Netflix has like a kid filter right dave a whole kit of when we log in my son. He has his own Sold kids thing. There has to be some kind of like parent filters set up to do something like that for your kids stuff. There's no comments. Yeah but they shouldn't regulate the whole like Philly. What happened? Yeah they keep doing that. What happened is the creators in the the the artists are just going to go to their own platform? It's tough very tough. It's very tough. We can do it. You can do if you have the big enough audience. I'm interested to see where this kid goes like. His audience is so kid what happens when he's eight can't so we're like do Justin Bieber. Fourteen just be had a ton of talent and it's going on as music and does creative collapsed and has his team Random Ryan how many towns guys and Ryan makes more money than most anybody that we know. How do you think that ends for Brian Ryan? Well he made a ton of money right so he'll be fine as long as financially fine psyche thinking about this if the rock walked into target while me my son and my son's like whatever if Ryan Watson every kid you know loses their shit. He's the Michael Jordan toddlers. They lose their shit. Here's shoes he has fucking and for for what because his pants edit. He's these videos. Have you ever seen them. I did it insane like the four of us could definitely put together a toy youtube channel. And you know do the some of the some of these men cap lies dude. I mean Chiloe pride but times get rough but some of these grown men who put these videos together for the kids. He started there so bizarre. It's insane good for them making money but yeah for right right. I don't yeah he's probably GonNa be home schooled entire life There's a girl in Austin. He just likes Adwa Drought School. Get Home schooled. Because she started blow up for makeup videos on youtube she's fifteen years old and just bought one of those Tesla Vans Hell. He has a per capita driver's permit. Yes yeah it's like it's a weird world. We're living right now you know. Obviously it's all the way over here to the laughter. Come back to the right in the Middle Brighton. How with like with like Ryan He? CAN'T HE GEICO any school. Do There's no school for Ryan you know like making some school. Some big s celebrity. Those kids don't give a fuck. The pants like Oh. That's cool kids. Don't kill Ryan walks in some Dude Ryan shuts the place down like he's Tom. Cruise four year olds the boys balling you ever watch videos chin. I think I'm pretty sure I watched Because I wanted to see what the HOOPLA's all about it was just super random. Yes not like well done. It's just like but that's what kids like. It's here's here's what's crazy Kylie Jenner of the toddlers because I my son kept asking for this toy like when you watch commercials and watch. TV He the only. It's like his IPAD like once a week but frigging Ryan here was breaking down some toy and then my son gets in. He knows every feature how to do it out on. Lock it thing how much you get paid to market that toy though your wonder what goes on with us and he is on. TV Show nickelodeon twenty six million dollars in two thousand Nineteen Double Pudi Pies Hall. Look at him. So he's getting older Lets you be interesting what they do. I'm sure there is. Parents probably quit their jobs and like he's their job hordes in his dad's so Ryan's Family Twenty Employees Company Sunlight entertainment also topped Ford's list lascaux twenty million companies gross income for the most trump period. Double that a pretty pie poodle pie. The number one most subscribing to the most viewed cradle platform teen entertainment run by Ryan's parents currently manages nine Youtube Channels Ryan's World Ryan's World Santa's world and Japanese E. K. Doodles Ryan's Family Review family got into it Ryan styles overseas over forty one billion in views mast over thirty nine. Subscribers Reina's family resided in Texas. Here's what's crazy about this. Do you know any Network that can get forty. One billion views powerful that linear duties was family didn't sane his family Inca deal with the digital children media start startup parking watch which deal with nickelodeon align of Ryan's World Smerch good for them. Forget out man. That's insane though isn't it. Yeah it's cool and it's not they maybe we'll end up seeing him a box and other toy reviewer. When he's older would you say maybe we'll see him box? and other toy reviewer when he's sick does own with up design L.. Making it happen do. 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The San Man Didn't up happening because he jumped up to fight Crane Zombie in Korea and it went down how I think we kinda thought who go down But I if you'd give done this handedly. He didn't get touched beautiful workman he looked so goddamn cream Zombie if you remember earlier days when the the nickname Zombie 'cause he's just slug and take punishment and slugged slug. He's very kind of a a more talented Chris Lebron where he just walked Ford each shot. And let's just talk for then you. He's done a lot of guys. It's some skills and so power in his hands now smugglers box Canelo out there. It's like a cream Cannella Zombie. That's what he looks like his boxing. Fan Van fucking tastic. And here's what's decided not getting more mature and he's ready for the title shot. is you see he knows. He has a granite Chen and Zombie. CRANSTON's grant right. He knows he has that. But he's using it when when it's the best time to cap is on it. He's not just sitting there eating eating using Boston's faints and then when he goes. Oh you WANNA play then. He plays a knockout. He looked so fucking good man. Damn good one on one of the whole thing. I doubt it happens. That the whole thing I was thinking about when I was watching Kriens Ambi- with his movement and just his his his shoulders. How big like broad his and the range and the way he's moving him for smacks hallway? is the number one five featherweight. I don't know if max interested at all But he did say I don't know if they talked about when they said rematch. Max like hold up. Don't know if that's next you know but probably is but man eventually crane Zombie Max. It's alway stylistically. The way they those two matchup. You're talking about pure fucking fireworks man. The only bummer about that is I like both guys guys so much. Who doesn't for God's Sake Edgar to of course everyone was? Everyone was Frankie Edgar but Holloway in Zombie. I wouldn't know who to root for for high. Oh Metro way more. I don't know current Zombie but Frankie Edgar Dave. It's just tough to watch you know MHM It's really really tough to watch. No such a terrible matchup for him. How about when you take down? He never prayer taking Zombie down. The the crowd went nuts for Koreans Ambi- TO KOMEDA OF AIn't Ozdemir Rack. Dick Rocky Cheeky. Split decision I saw people complaining again. They'll split decisions. People would complain whether they gave it to Rack each or or Ozdemir doesn't matter somebody's getting fucked split. Sison somebody on your boy Sukree got fucking Fuckin- Delwar. He did the Super Korean boys. Super Boy Soubra Korean. Snow Grant Super Boy. That's a bummer. Yeah but Charles Dordain Look Pretty. Good Charles Jordan's not sent there to win by the way he has no this and he did work Dong Jun when vicious knockout the a lot of decisions man front guard though. Did you watch in real time. I watched the Zombie. Psychopath do three. AM So sick. I was five. That's why you're safe did I was GonNa be what a great song. We still get some Korean Zombie shirts. He Reebok send. What are we doing here like marketing or not dude? A saw the most recent one any gun which I wish the Koreans did let us make him. A shirt is pretty nice actually watch. It's like a Hoodie though student. Yeah his own shit or does he just pinched out the Reebok He's associate shit. What did there which is odd beholding? Its own I dig that. That's it. That's the old school one man. That's how it has to be his. 'CAUSE Tryphosa used to make that Lou preorder dude. It's from Korea. So so it's tough to do dic- DIC- dic- I like this. At the arms says Korean Zombie. Think on it. Yeah definitely by that who we gotta get in touch with get get those. ooh Pack of scissors. I love this. I love the coloring. The colors my favorite. Yeah who who the fuck do we get what to get some of those pre orders for Koreans on his original graph. 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Yeah it's Dan just got dope shit man but not for big guys like me. It's damn when he gets them. That creams Amish. Yeah I'll be Donna. Were those hoodies hell. Yeah let's figure out all right. Don't you have some green connections. Do the Santo White Boy. I don't look away dude. Connections someone. DM DM chanter. Email finding the kid in Korean Zombie Merch soon. Please rock the shit out of that. I don't really wear fighters gear the only. I'm trying to think. They sent me the style bender shirt which I love. I'll rock that. They'll have stall albinger. I'm trying to think outside cowboys. A rock brynner TEGAS stuff. I don't even really rock my friend stuff trying to think who else watch some Kinda McGregor before. who else who's deer? Would you actually buy. I'd I'd rock some page vans. Ain't if tied to of also came out with like a shoe shoe. We like Glass Cup type thing. Probably take that God he can make some money off a shoe. Sure sure. Who Else would you rock? I'd want I duNNo Black T. SHIRT AD rock. Maybe a fun. I'd Iraq and our law Ski Shirt. I've only bought this the first crabbing. Zombie sure yeah. Yeah there's a video of me at the youth the expo when at Korean Zombie Shirt and interviewing people on the street. If you're on the street just random people know the UFC one we do is like on the street stuff so I had the cream. I'm sure McKay who you guys looking forward to seeing. You just having fun with it all nice. Yeah back in the day man Yeah Kriens fucking fantastic dude. One one forty five probably the best way class in the AFC now pretty stack if you look at it. And I don't know what you do with it either. 'cause you you look at it right. Here's here's what worries me. And I you know. I love the Sandman but I wonder if third GONNA give Cream Zombie Decoy sanity because chorus was. Get the shine off for frank gave. It's a big deal. Oh yes correct. Act Bet but Corrie deserves a big fight right. Corey deserves a big fight. So beating Frankie Edgar was such a huge Stennis career and the right step in his career. So so how would you do with. What do you do with them or you gotta you gotta come up a main event against Frankie Edgar? You got hooked him up man given the onslaught of Hookup Algebra. I mean I wouldn't mind seeing that main event finite. Yeah it'd be great. You gotTa Take Care of him. The 'cause they're like no you're still gonNA fight him now. You're a frankish crazy enough to take the fight in a few months but he just got knocked out when we all saw so then they diminish is what cory was gonNA do right. I think he's GonNa win that fight. So diminishes what core always GonNa do so in that instance Corey beat up old frank yeager one before the Korean Zombie home still frank yeager man at a new way class us. It was exciting main event yet. Take care of the Sandman. Come on now come on your C. Take Your Corey Sandman. Santa Hagen Sterling Be Fine Marlin because we on Sizzler Marlin Marlin. The next step is title shocks. which really next Marlon Orleans? 'cause Josette Josie might get pseudo. Sounds like us. Oh I doubt Marlin would want that fight. What beat Josie Peter Yawns the one? You don't WanNa touch doesn't have a ton of shine. He's a fucking animal. I like Sterling Koi. Sandy Hagen yet sterling the best both maybe most marble maybe Pedram US without on. That's a man fight. Nope that's a step you know. I Love Pedro. But Courtney up to Frankie Edgar main event that's gone got hooked him up Sterling. Marlin cody garbrandt would have been nice. Yeah cody has gotta fight though. So he's fighting a sense out Purchasers though Dude Poulsen's Al Cody Garbrandt and fucking corey make sense. You can make it that far cata first of all I don't coat he's lost a few he's still the biggest name in that division division. There's no huge names Lille division whose more famous cody garbrandt armrest. nope sterling note Pian Note Core Sandman. Getting there but nope nope. I feel central no pedro nope Jimmy Nope Aldo Aldo probably not even the ranking using more fish complete too. I assume all the ratings are no. He's at number four. He's right by the apparently he went up on to God. Look at that one. Forty five though Holloway Holloway. Ortega's beat Frankie Ear Crean Zombie. They what these are these new rate rate rate rankings. Yeah I mean fuck electorally update of in times what they usually don't. They're not like perfectly updated yet. Creating zombies should be four. Yeah Dude Italian name Jimmy. There's not one bad match up in the top. Ten Dude Cowan Cater Shane Burgos. That'd Be Fun Ryan Hall. Here's the thing Rhino Ring Him. Fourteen name anybody who called Ryan Hall you will rip your fucking ankle off. We got we should get right on food trucks. That'd be fine yes. He's like the gym from the Office of the monster. The the name. Have you ever heard of anybody calling him out. Nobody wants a piece of that monster no one. He came fight that much because no one wants to fight him. Somebody turned his his fights down. Just be a weird vibe but Dude Ryan Hall Screen Zombie Zombie so we fun just random. Shit I'm a big Ron Halphen Calvin to Josh Emmett Stephen Tune that's by far the most stack division. One to fifteen arnold allenton monster death by are the best division makes sense though one forty five. The`May dudes who wrestle and get into martial arts about one fifty sixty God damnit divisions filthy then our boy channel. Joseph Ben Evita is GonNa Title Shot Man Boy Henderson. who advocated the belt so yeah vitas was Davidson figure radio. I Want Joseph to win that so oban so he can become a world champ and then be done retire. Have kids this finance wife. Megan Alevi shallot both those little people. They're both the exact same size. Both cute shit both super cute. And if you guys want to live with me you can Joseph loss also also the most stylish guy in the AFC immer style. Then the most fashionable see connor to Congress up there. I'm so oh happy for Joseph though. That's dope did Henry suit a Released another video or anything. No I'll think so. He's Madison awesome posts. But I'll he video. He's just remember. The thing you were saying was just. He wasn't stripped because I in the beginning they're saying he was stripped of his title. He's smart thing due to this quad shot Americana Quad four does nothing to your boy does is nothing. I got problems Yeah I don't know where we're going with it but yeah poor Frankie Edgar those horrible just storable news but that at one thirty five one forty five make your Dick card man. `specially forty-five bad matchup incite other fights bought a rico. But I was doing work on. Yeah he was on his way to win for sure hugh so mad right so he got hurt so I think you so mad because it was like finding a while. This was a big moment for a huge moment. Yeah Dude if you if you remember when bottle hurry in over had bad blood there was nothing like it but a hard it used to be. I don't know maybe the scariest guy in combat sports just a bad scary looking dude dude man went to prison like he'd beat you over in bars and shit hotels. He beat over when he was knocked them out way. Are you lighter so technical. But bottai's won the batsman. Ever do it son. He's been off for a while fights rigo. WHO's an absolute fucking savage winning the fight? NOCCO down twice. Yeah he was. He was super emotional and crying and just yelling and pounding the ground on those K.. One days man. Yeah Yeah Rico. Used to and that his coach be yelling at them. Be Coming Down Those K one Grand Prix Days Dude. Nothing like it. I don't think we'll ever you're back to that state ever again. Boxing's elite taking a slide As I was going to ask you do you think it hurts to be on. UFC fight pass us. Fight passes really taking a slide to with. I don't I don't know why you'd fuck with fight. Bassin him yeah because ESPN plus has all you know. Yeah and then I. I guess you'd Fight Pass because you know the probably the best thing I've fight passes Eddie. Bravo stuff right so you have that have all. The old school fights the the whole catalogue of old school fights such a super fan hardcore. They have cage warriors they have a titan. FCA and stuff like that but shout to tighten man man but other than that. I can't be gone well because they used to be on. ESPN I think that you spending espn or spike. Yeah it was something like thirty both but you'll be such a hardcore to have UC fight pass any ESPN. Plus you gotta cut to your cut. Fight passing I couldn't find past myself. I cut it when they banned me from the show. That's totally yeah. It's it's interesting. I wonder what's going to do with it but I think I think there's a market I think it could be. There's an opening for kickboxing. You market it the right way I think you need to get so unlike Like a Mark Cuban a big time promoter get put to dump money into it. But you know I don't know I was surprised to ever figured it out especially in America it just never caught on ever ever. So when do you just go all right fucking which I think. That's what people it because they've they do shows in the US but they never really get much attention not want never like no one. Did you guys. This fire happened this weekend. I didn't know until afterwards I knew of it. I just like spunk. Doesn't fight kickboxing works. He messed up his leg but he also got caught and drug testing boxing but like he said he'd stopped kickboxing because he messed up his leg but he was kind of big in the US because he was based out of here like the legends aren't really around anymore. More yes schillinger may may only now. He's not doing kickboxing. The Guy who beat The Guy who beats thou- bender just had another big knockout and he keeps coming to the UFC savage. It'd be fun you don't I think people forget how good over Moore's kickboxing like they had to change the rules for him because he was like the knees. Ovarian was such good kickboxer and Cro cop about Coq one K one Grand Prix like two years ago before hard tech he was like forty. Nine is the best saying those were the best of times Yeah a lot higher such a Badass Decker Marietta just all this monitoring and decker. Oh what's this there's just a couple of beltre's and then you know Rodney marks in Josh Josh Barnett was able to fight out the I saw Barney yeah I got pulled off the card warehouse you know. CK It'd be for the Commission to tell you know. Do we know what was wrong with him Barnett. said he was his kidneys. Were shutting down fever. It sounds just a AKA cutting problems. Weird sounds but he's but they were saying something was going around the island like some kind of illness was yeah. Well someone's going around the night United States in general but Lima one or fight onto thirty six. Our girl won a Lima one. Pineapple Princess Annapolis Pineapple Prentice. She's pretty like she's pretty up author. Now she's a bad just and she's in Bella tour. She went online. Yeah but a lot of the media outlets ever listed number two number three. You know I'd love to see her you. AFC Hernan Valentina Think she doesn't WanNa come to get some shine from built a belt or censor to viacom censored like VM. As you the red carpet Shit Shit like that she sponsored by Anheuser Busch for sure. Yeah let's see. I still love you like I get it. Man and and go into VM. As and what viscount brings up a big deal in the painting and says unless you see don't matter yeah don't matter so yeah you we know how shoes I I love Scott Coker I know he's the best promoter in the game wheat and we we watch stuff right but outside data that people don't care so what would you hard enough to to you know like the UCS so many events what would you do if you were hurt. Because like it seems like Bell Tower and Viacom or taking Kabir financially and she probably wouldn't get the rub as much if she wants the siege because so many people he's competing with like so many other names. Do we know how much she got paid. not only built or releases. The commission doesn't I usually don't seat belt fights. Yeah they really don't right. Yeah the other thing is Abell tour does a bunch of fight in Hawaii. UC does go there because the lose money. Oh her walkouts are huge. She had a whole dance croup but polynesian dancers behind her and the last time she had like these tribal warriors with her and stuff. It's a huge walkout production. I know she's not GonNa get to do that in. UFC but she yeah. But but but the women's flyweight champion the UFC you the baddest walking on the earth. And you're also you're up for ESPN five of the year and it's just it's just different man and I do. I do think she can be championed in the AFC. Oh and they just signed a lease car moosh which is her training partner and there in the same division and they wanNA fight each other which is weird corner each other. Oh Asia. McKee advanced to the semifinals shout. They J. he looked good to man he could possibly fight bore supports. WYNN's his fight. That'd be fun. That'd be a good prospect like hell. Yeah yes it's tough if you're McFarland what you do uh-huh 'cause which girl the only thing is you know in your heart you're the best in the world you can't say you the best world if you're frightening rise in one championship or you just can't it's just it's just it's not true it's not true but You consider well champion champion but if you heard what he do man. She seems pretty happy though who knows what's behind the scenes but she seems pretty happy. Yeah then some people. Just don't give a fuck. Somebody rang NAM. Champion over here to take me out to deal with the politics and the harassment from the AFC and you Sada and all that shit it. It's probably a little like worse it's Kinda Confu- SP confusing to especially was cyborg in the featherweights coming over to bell tower. Like would that event ever for happened to the flyweights in the AFC. 'cause Valentine is pretty much clear out the division is nothing for that's why it would be if the UFC. 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You what's heartbreaking. I was his dad's who Cesar Chavez V. Not Julio Cesar Chavez the face of Mexican boxing he's caged see when Ringside you see when his son goes. I can't go on and he's like mother it just doesn't exist. You know what I'm saying like. He's like Oh God. It's so heartbreaking to watch the crowd was there for Marsha Vez. Did you see them throwing him. Box May can't as I say you know it. Just it's hard to to to get to that level and what he's trying to do right you like his records amazing but he never got over that Hump when he whenever he fights when he can't be the bully whenever he fights guys who were better than him or guys that he he's an underdog he never gets over that Hump. Because when the going gets rough when when Your Dad's Julio Cesar Chavez junior urge sewage senior and you have all your that famous in Mexico you grub with money when the going gets tough. It's hard to dig a deep opposed a guy like Danny Jacobs who went through fucking cancer and came from nothing it when the going gets rough. I want the I won't be in the Fox with the guy who beat cancer came from nothing not the Guy who's Dad's famous fuck still making a million dollars a month off appearances. It's a bummer. 'cause he has all the talent is all the skill I remember Freddie Roach worked with him because he was so inconsistent stint with training. It was crazy to see him back in his corner. It's time I didn't expect to see that dude and they just the box and royalty Freddie Roach June trae Roach and fucking. His Dad adjust when he was just like why like my nose his nose and said he broke his hand But Yeah I just that coupled with him missing weight and Diana's hair like just all that when I saw him walk out the Blue Hair got his dad must be so disappointed. This Dad's right. Like what the fuck son can we just be cool dude. Can you just box. Can we focus on boxing. Your fucking buccaneer. The broadcast said he had fork over a million bucks. An wait. Wait Miss you miss big time I I. I don't know how he keeps fighting Chavez Junior lakes quits fans pelted him with the breeze. Everyone got hit with Shit during his post fight interview. He was getting your ducks stuff goes. Yeah 'cause they're throwing a him they're just throwing because they're pissed off. He looked fucking good. Mail come through. I know just massive unions body shots all the skill to landing great. HR opened up really well. Power shots to now. I don't know if he would have won if it kept going. All twelve. Probably not because of his heart but he was doing well. Danny Daniels the quicker boxer but as far as power punches thought Chavez doing really well today When do they start throwing shit? Adam does shows they are now at the end at the end. I don't think they have a highlight clip without and there's one more match Jamila travel. It's all highly hairston. Landed a big ass. Shot on dramatic L.. Charlie Charlie one. Yeah eleventh round. So Stud current events. Yeah Man Covered that covered that this. What did frank or say? Oh he just made a remark afterwards. Afterwards I get this straight off. The plane was like rural. Let's see Here his curly hair. I didn't curly hair. That Ben. Asking VIBE I dig it. I saw post to. He's like man. I can't believe the negative comments. I'm getting DOT COM girder. windsors hit up Frankie Edgar for losing a fight against the Korean Zombie He put well not what I had planned. Come out here to south South Korea but when like a man lose two hats off to Koreans Ambi- Yep he posted another one about how he's getting hate and like who sent frank yeager hate and also frankie. Why are you reading comments? What are you reading Tom? After fight win or lose he should not be on them in. Yeah Yeah if you should go to frank acres Twitter Dunia put it somewhere else. Did he was is in screaming at the pin and Conor McGregor going back and forth. Is that it right there now. These are older now. Oh why are you the negative comments get to you the most. Thanks for the love for most of you out out there to others. I'm not sure it won't be your last Shitty comp to dish out. Let's not give power to these people. Thanks to the love to the real ones out there. I don't I mean who hates them. Frankie how could you ever Great Hill Frankie Acre Man. I don't Oh I can say oh dearest a mean thing but even if he did like people hate on Ben asking or colby will be coming to like. Oh you lost Crean Zombie like what. Yes yeah yeah fought with the best to do it inside. The octagon came up short. I get your point okay. That was tweet Moore. What was told in shootouts right? You stay long keep fighting forever. Knight comes game. I love that strange but I don't I don't know why Frankie's Y why in the world would you get on social media after loss sometimes for win. Yeah you're though the way your brain worked remembers is the negative of course to protect you. What else you got Roy McDonald leaving beltre signing PF L. and it was a little weird one too when you heard Scott Coker talking about them. It's almost like he was kind of being like a will. If we really wanted to keep him he would still be here. So essentially essentially they don't feel as though he's worth keeping anymore. I mean yeah I was Scott Coker I love Roy Roy noses but it's like you know when Roy was like now my heart's not really into it. We'll see what goes on. You're at the V stuff is just like. Oh okay all right. Well like if you're not into it we're really not into it so you know you're not GonNa pay this huge purse or this huge fucking contract to keep a guy who doesn't really want to be the in it the other thing is. Is You know for Roy. McDonald going over to the PF l.. You can make money when you're not fighting the best of the best you can get by with having one foot in one foot out. Let's be real call it like it is so love. PF L. if some phenomenal talent over there but compared to the UC or even Delatour in the welterweight division. You'RE NOT GONNA get the same competition level. He Roy McDonough with his skill level and experience can get it can coast by to be honest until they until they get another big name. He's GonNa Coast that that whole division. I think I think Roy just wants to like. I don't think we're he cares about the level like these big names. I think he just wants to new experiences his best days. Yeah I think he's on to like religious family now his take a lot of damage damage. So if you want to take a lot of damage go to where you can get paid you fight less competition fight smart win maybe fight once a year. Still get that million dollar paycheck and get out. It is that he was really interested in the semifinals of because they have to fights in one night for the semi-finals but Yeah it's just you can't have a champion. Who Says He? It doesn't want to fight you. Know don't invest in guy. Either what else you got in this here. No not that one. We'll get to that Alan Robert Whitaker and jared cannier booked for UC to forty eight open for my boy deer until they get a fight against whatever but cannon it's fun to watch yeah he's earned it. I'll candidate for sure but you know I ride until I was just really whitaker. Stay until be fun during do it till now I write on them. See who's available Middleweight let me see the Milwaukee rankings. Costa's out for how how long he's cost. I don't know your whole just for fun doesn't gasoline. What till finally fought that they just fought? Remember the last fight those Dr Hall be fun. Yeah you're fined ten verse five but until ticked up fighting. Do we figure out what's happening. Ramiro title shot. It makes sense Yeah I think you're right holiday to get your hall. If you wanted to play that game or you could wait it out and get pollock Kosta. Maybe a Derek Brunson the podcast fight from depend. How long podcast is out What else get you sick? Look We kind of knew this is going to happen anyways but pin is increasing the pay per view price. I five bucks. Jesus Christ man so I thought it was already sixty four nine. But apparently it's was fifty nine nine nine and it's going to jump to sixty four nine nine and but then you also have have to pay four ninety nine and a half so that it basically makes it to basically seventy dollars you would need to buy twelve use. UC paper you vents per county. You're just to break even new plan. the really bank on Connor. Pretty number did you hear that rumor. Surani is the one that brought it up though that he said that people are saying that you'll see is paying him money to take a dive live like he was hearing rumors about that surrounding brought it up. Just people pay. Yeah I guess pay attention to this shit. Who would ever expect Donald Sarah? Anybody and you'll see the last guy until a secret to to take a dive be Donald Sironi. He's GonNa Fuck and give you the middle finger and tell everybody about it all right. This is just enough on allister's lip and twelve days. It looks like it's almost if not fully recovered. He's a free command right twelve days. He's such a freak AAC. He's such a star such a star. them on Food truck such as there's guys can get some sort horsemeat stuff now the ridiculous. That would probably backfire. I don't know about that one. Does he live in. Does he live in the states or live in Netherlands in Denver it was lives lives in Denver. He's spend most time Denver. Okay with your boys right. Yeah he trains out there all the time tracking hit them contact. I was wondering if you're looking at your tour wondering if maybe like because you're going to Amsterdam and your tour he lived over there. What's this Joshua mentioned that he would like to spar with fury to help prepare for wilder and then fury said he accepted. This is Josh will on Sky Sports is I think also might beat wilder next time. I think I would fight me. Quicker than wilder would disagree. Well and and South I disagree with that If that's the case I want him to win. The fight on British soil needs me. I'll inspire them to get ready for the wilder and as they grew up when they're younger they sparked refer back in the day together and this is just responding. It's a short once-off just say video Joshua Skies Bolts. They'd love to coming out made camp on five quick. The wild this happening to beat wild up. We'll fuck you. Aj No problem. I would love to have you in really really love to have you in Camp Countess fight. Give wild a property and I'll I'll be made because of the trading company Duxbury walked by the way. Well congratulations. I don't WanNa see them Spar together save it once he gets fight then fuck up the fight because they know each other that element of surprise. Don't please don't spar together. Yeah keep those three way for now Hector Lombard Joe Riggs for KFC ten. Jesus Christ one is that February fifteenth in Miami God Damned Joe Riggs who the fuck is fighting Hector Lombard with no gloves on. You couldn't pay me enough to fight that with with no clubs. He is such a fucking monster rigs man best ass in fighting too so what you want dude best death. I've ever seen say Mellon son coconuts out the back. What else you got this Mickey goal and Cowboy Olivera? McDonald's been out for a hot second HUH. He's in a little bit up needs to win. That one was supposed to fight a conduct. Right Yeah Yeah Mickey Gall See. His last fight was against who does a lot of potential with Mickey Gaughman Sanchez's last night. Yeah Right No. Let's see where you got beat Celine towery. So He's two hours last four. Yeah you got I guess we forget how how young is careers. Yeah Dude there's so much potential that good and yet one fightings in a UFC EMC and punk does the made him a name. Kim Stage North cut destroyed him. Randy Brown's a tough one for him. Renna Brown's fucking good. They beat George Sullivan. Thank you. I'm a veteran. Do Sanchez do beat the brakes off of them. Super unexpected win. That's fun though. That's a tough fight for Makiko. What else Let's just do two more this year. Kevin Lee versus Islam. Macho Lebron just taking on the WHO I'm good God at a tough fight. Yeah you want to end it with. Cranston actually broke his arm during the fight. You can see the extra here each. Yeah does that fun no and then this is on. This is a fighter from her and then my friend Alison me this. He says when he was watching or a decent this when they're watching the show. This guy had like a boob a left boob that looked like an actual boob so I looked at pictures. Here's the video but so here's a picture. A ride boo right okay. It looks like an actual female boob Lube Guy. No socially this little clip here. You could see him his red corner crazies. So that is good that tip tonight actual tit. Right it's weird just on one me I mean I don't know maybe the tumor somebody that but usually I see stuff then. Sports usually usually guy no from stuff. But I don't think so. He looks pretty normal. It might just be some sort of weird thing going on body we says one big titty. It'd be like maybe had a detached pictorial muscle at some point. But I mean even the host tissue so I I don't know he's he doesn't look like the guy who's done steroids before you know and it's just one that's strange. Yeah it's a Decency Cup one. Hit one hit wonder. Dude tip all right. We've got some fights it's this bell or rising one is not bad at all but you forget that Feed rivers rampages happening. Yeah now just too old legends. Going at it I'll definitely watch it chandler's fighting Laurenz what's up your boiler. Iran's Larkin runs Larkin. Shot Lorenz Larkin. Why Boy Detroit superstar? Yeah Dirk sharing. Yeah that's an interesting fight. It's a fun Fi. Gordy goities what he's what he's a monster like page during the damn thing Xian Tuck Fun card. Do they have to have so many fights. That's the one thing. This is actually a two day event. Right I don't know how they do these things it's like. It's a belt horizon co-promotion motion so the Bell Tower Card is one day and I think the rising card is the next day. I think there's like two vans basically. It's so confusing to it's A. It's my hand wait. Why not just do normal shit? What if they have seven cards this one today? This one's next week it's like yeah trying to keep up whether it's A. I don't know what happens. Is it's so confusing you check out. Yeah because it gets lost in the shuffle. I'm like I know fair doors fighting this weekend. Who who else is fighting? Let's say what will win Michael Page fight. Because I'm GonNa Watch that for sure. It's just a lot going on. I don't know if always always fighting the rising card. Where's The Rising Code Twenty now the Bell Tower and rise in Japan? And that's all the one card or does rise and have a separate see this as a separate there it is card go rising twenty here. We go on that one. Yep Tricky Pit Bulls on that one seal. He'll be alway hallway. Simon Young attention the kickboxer from Floyd fight. Oh twitchy back guy. There's so much shit going on though so it's like all right. Does a kickboxing acting match. Then there's this then there's another kickboxing match. Then there's the Grand Prix final then. There's the light heavyweight championship camping ship than those Grand Prix semifinals than those Bantamweight Championship. Vacant than the kick boxing match was even dance. Fight on their Bella tour. I don't know what night it is. What time do I watch it just to have three D.? Glasses says hey it really is a pain. It's such a night it's like I'm tired. I'm tired I'm tired. You've got to be a fell card with your girl killer Harrison kill who the fuck Kayla beating the shit out of this weekend Larisa Pacheco already fodder to you gonNA record. She's the Mickey Mantel of PF. L. Man ain't nobody beating twenty earlier this this year yelling. They fought in the first round or like in the regular season do. Don't you think belt or be wounded. Do Cross Promotion Herber Cyborg. That'd be down for that. That'd be great. It's just the only thing I'd say is probably the ESPN UFC connection that belt or up. PF L. has true but that'd be fun that'd be really fun to new pupils as Gucci taken that fight tough. I think I'd have to go with cyborg. Just because of how she looks at an ex fi probably go kayla right now. Interesting I just I feel like you're carrying that novice compared to what cyborgs. It'd be tough to get on the inside We got to see what she looks. Yeah Buddy ain't no punk like Julia by legit on a lot of percents. What else? Jen Giovanni Davis secret fight good test. Giovanni Davis Gamboa's no punk at all. You just got Pascal verse bottle. Jack was combing event. That's a great fucking phone. That's a really fun fight. Heard like sold out or something already. Where's it at an Atlanta it's Atlanta? Yeah joins US pretty. Pretty being named Man Cambo Davis Fuck and fight and then Jesus Christ I know yeah. He's into work so Davis does work what he thinks next forum like where does he go. You gotta come up to like get bigger fights Loma Changsha. I know it's fucking would limit. lohman quiet yeah. Yeah Boston so weird. Bautzen SOFA can win. I heard something about loan Loma Chango like he was in in the ring after someone else's fight or something nice guy in the world but it's just I wish they would just the best would fight the best Gamboa's fun for Dave's gets a big win. You know so I guess. Chen called out female Lopez. Oh yeah the young kid God. I liked Lopez. Drowsy Davis Verse Loma Chango Lopez. Such a stud though. Do you see them a little bit of him. I think he's just not. It's not easy that level yet. Not He's not at the Davis Day especially coming from just the two side also bringing in top rank in. PBC sick it would just be a huge. It'd be a big good fight because they're both prominent right now. Just don't do it man. I just just such a shame. Davis Law Janko be so fun. Be So exciting. Maybe they will have to the sooners. Well she got Gen. That's it for the fights when she has something here a lot going on. Oh what were the odds on favor. Rampage I'm sure it's even the both oldest shit. Yeah Yeah I WANNA five. No Shit challenge a favorite shut the Chandler Detroit superstars underdog concealment Archie then page age. Big favorite whereas Larkin big favorite Kella Harrison big favorite. Oh let me see Gregor Cowboy Line Donald plus one eighty all right all right that it. That's it just fan questions hit me. We are also brought to you by the best supplements on Planet Planet Earth. You know what man everyone waits to January. First to make New Year's resolutions goes out this year. Only get healthy all right cool but make sure yet right supplements you got the the right gear. The right fitness gear. Make sure you got a plan. Just don't go into two thousand twenty with no plan you got titties. Get love handles. And you're crying in February. Don't do that make make it easy to stick to your diet us. The best supplements the best fitness gear. The best nutrition plan yet on demand training. 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No but I do think there is a good chance to be around. And I think he'll fight Nate Diaz or Mazda. But near are those. You don't have a belt. Nothing's going to fight. You're saying he's like a fight. Could be for the Beller. Tony I for the belt so I don't see it happening. All right I am Kevinfox. Do Do you think zombies. Zombie deserves a title. Shot before your Rodriguez close all right. Palm six seven seven and do you think Korean Super Bowl is dealt with UC after three straight losses that is three straight from her fans a ton of potential man man I would think of one more usually do cut you have to three. He's twenty eight though that that young. Yeah so you lost Cups Watson. That was a great fights lost his Germany Stevens beat so he came on hot on the scene though down a Oh man. It's so fun to watch three in a row. Three three T to Kale's one. Tko wasps Watson fight of the night. Got Be by Jeremy Stevens fire the night Charles Dordain loss fire the night other not Ken them. He's got he's got a bonus every single fights of his first fight. Now they're not gonNA someone I said they'll also that Korean Zombie is the only fighter to get eight bonuses in his first eight fights with C.. Problem Awesome is but that's Ambi- no they're not cutting green Super Bowl Super Bowl. All right underscored Dylan Russell. Will you ever offered a del Toro or another organization contract after you left the UC no because what makes the FCC The you have C.. is even when you retire you. Your contracts not voided. It's just frozen so let's say I was. I got some feather my ass where I wanted to fight again. You'll see still owns my rights could get out of it with lawyers and money but be a nightmare. Yeah but yeah they still they freeze your contract. They let you know that too. When you officially retire congrats retirement? Remember we still own your ass. Aren't doing one more two more whatever. Okay Palm six one seven in seven with the progress we've seen from Jay McKee if you're young and may fighter would belts her first choice. FC God that's a good question. I don't know I don't know because yet labeled as a tour guide these days you know or you have C- guy it's hard to shake that bill for kind of rub off of you to come over to the AFC. So I don't know I don't know if I was a young guy with like a crazy wrestling background from Penn state or something like that. I wanted to be in big fights. Yes I go to belt or perform a a young guy If I'm really young I would stay on the local local circuit like the regional circuit and fight some internationally like jungle fight something like that build up my record and then go to the NFC with fucking guns blazing. That's the move. Don't sign with any major promotion like you'll see your Bela Tor rise in none of that. Stay Day on. The regional. Seen have a little international experience and then build up. You know ten fifteen wins and then go the issue when you have the skill set and experienced events. That's the move because then you're making real. Money are just one more Sony scored. This man is Charles Junior. The biggest disappointment in boxing history know everyone says that I you know I've seen because his dad's the face a Mexican boxing and his dad's straight up fucking Mexican legend. So we expect more out of his son but he talented dude man. It's just when you grew up in Mexican satin sheath stuff when the going gets rough. You know when you're a Mexican standoff handoff you know he's the first guy to give up so it's a bummer. But definitely not the biggest disappointment people are too harsh on that dude. He's doubted sweet. Oh bummer though for sure Senate. That's it cool man Kimberly family on on the road this week. Again but Friday Oklahoma City both shows are near sell out. I think there's thirty tickets left first time Oklahoma City Oklahoma must city two shows Friday. Then I drive down to Tulsa Oklahoma. I'm Harake Hard Rock Casino there One show only Saturday night. You don't worry Oklahoma sooner fans my show is way after your sooners play in the BCS playoffs. So come see me. Oklahoma City Friday Tulsa hard hard rock casino Saturday and then New Year's the following weekend new years eve I'm at Pasadena. Two shows those are also almost sold route. Two shows New Year's eve spend it with me. poppin bottles telling jokes come to the Ice House Pasadena In January I hit the ground running. Connecticut Connecticut foxwoods January tenth. And then Boston Wilbur. Is Saturday January eleventh. That it's almost sold out We have some dope merch for Boston. By the way Wilbur Wilbur Theatre in Boston And then January Seventeenth San Jose seventeenth through the Nineteenth San Jose Improv when my favorite spots and then I closed closed January out Charlotte Forever Charlotte January twenty third through twenty fifth. Get your tickets now. T. Fat K.. Dot Com and the main couvert her at the just for laughs comedy that is almost sold out at the vote theater. Some theater there Vancouver just for laughs but get your tickets. Those just went on sale folk theater thank hoover. Tk Dot COM But I'll see you this weekend. Oklahoma get your tickets dot com happy holidays. Merry Christmas think yes tune in and mcnew show what it is this the last show of the year or next week. That's a good question. Do you have a show next week. Yeah next week next week right. We'll figure it out of my voice stays intact But either way from show what it is. I love you guys showtime right. Some exciting news. I'm waiting for showtime green light about the future with showtime but everything is all good Babe Babe Eh Thank you guys Nice. Each Other happy holidays. Eat some jumping for me and I love you till next time. Be Nice to each other I'm out.

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