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On Detroit's workforce participation and skills gap with Jose Reyes

Daily Detroit

15:48 min | 1 year ago

On Detroit's workforce participation and skills gap with Jose Reyes

"So you're talking. Forty seven percent labor participation. A healthy city probably show somewhere between sixty five to seventy percent labor participation. That's the Voice of workforce expert. Jose Reyes with the Labor Participation rate around twenty points less than healthy city. Detroit has a talent gap and and a skills gap and this isn't unique to the city. It's impacting the region and the state as well. So how do we get people to work. What are some of the things to be done about it and how to do it under the current system which as much as some wanted to change it? It's the world. We live in right now without saddling people with puns of debt. Jose is the Director of workforce and Community Development for Washtenaw Community College. And as someone who's both dealt with the city directly a former job at a Detroit based nonprofit and now now working for a community college regionally he brings an interesting perspective. That conversation from the Detroit Policy Conference right after we think our members on patriarch who make the show possible symbol like Alvar. Your support really matters and thank you so much. He joins Colin Mike. Cathy and others at Patriotair Dot com slash daily Detroit so without further. Ado Jose Reyes Jose. Welcome to daily Detroit. Thank you pleasure to be here so I wanted to talk to you. Because workforce development like workforce. That's a fancy word for getting people jobs right well. It's actually more than that okay. Let's talk about that. You know workforce development. I think in some respects Max that is just getting folks. Jobs is the most cursory understanding. Okay workforce development really is understanding the supply and demand chain and again think about it workforce development is based on employer demand supply and demand chain the job seekers out of talent supply and so in the employers are where the demands are in for the skill sets and so for me is a eco-system with the educational provider somewhere in the middle In terms of Skilling up individuals so what is the state of that demand right now in our region is not just in our region I would say even nationally we have two issues at bay day. One is the skills gap which has been referred to as individuals. They're currently in the labor force. Not Matching up to where the new jobs and new technology is taking the jobs that they currently have so employers are looking how to skill up there individuals that they currently have in the talent pipeline. But at the same time we we also have a talent gap which is simply we have folks that are trickling out of their jobs as they are being you know reaching age of Retirement and whatnot and and we don't have enough folks coming into the talent pipeline and so those individuals eighteen to twenty nine we. Detroit in particular has one of the lowest labor participation rates of anywhere in the nation. Wow Yeah so you're talking. Forty seven percent labor participation. A healthy a City probably show where between sixty five to seventy percent labor participation. That's kind of stunning. Why is that well? I think part of that. We're looking at what's going on. Maybe at this city city of Detroit level within the city. Is that you also have epidemic poverty. You actually have the highest poverty in city of Detroit without any any regard for any other city There's no other city in America that has higher poverty than the city of Detroit. And so we think about that has huge what I call residual effects so again folks are poverty. Don't necessarily get the educational opportunities and as such we have generational cycles of poverty have continued Y also. No and I hear this from my listeners. All the time. There's a lot of people that either that are rather frustrated with the amount of debt that they're carrying and then also looking at opportunities going. Well am I going going to have to go and get like a huge amount of loans to be able to become you know more employable and to me. It feels like there are a lot of opportunities. Enfield's that maybe wouldn't take much so that's an interesting point. So one of the first things is that for folks that are outside the labor force career pathways and understanding of career. Pathways is huge. One of the things I did as the CEO of Detroit and point solutions was actually invest into technical Education Centers in partnership with Randolph Technical Education Center was the first place that I actually worked on trying to create a polytechnical school. That would the open for the youth during the day but in the evening be open to the adult so the parents in those communities because this is generational from this standpoint so we wanted to make sure that folks understood where these career pathways are and then provide equity track for them to actually obtain the the skill set that they need it and again I think you know you know we talking off off off the Mike you know. When we're dealing with folks me this opportunity because again to unite somebody with a better quality of life? We know jobs in the economic wellbeing are two critical factors to be able to achieve that quality of life that individuals in their family deserve. And so we wanted to be sure that we can give folks those opportunities and I think there is this well always been this conception that to obese. Assess what you got to go to college in the bottom line is you can make a six figure salary without having six figure debt if you were to go into a skill trade great like an apprenticeship for you know for skilled trades like a pipe fitter carpenter because there's still a demand is more of a demand today than it was. There's so much demand Matt I mean think about specifically in my north neighborhood there now trucks and crews from other states coming to work on homes and to me. It's kind of crazy crazy. I mean I. It is the concept of journeyman right because people they travel for this work but it is predominant. It is something where I'm looking there going. Wow wait a second. That's a broke broke Brooklyn area code. I look at the plate and I'm like. Oh Wow that's Philip like Pennsylvania. What are they doing? Working on House rehabs in the city of Detroit but I talk to be live and talk to the people doing it. Some of them are not major project. Owners they're just a couple from somewhere or whatever they're like we could not get workers or people would tell. Tell me there's a six month. I had something done on the house. I live in and the contractor literally said well I can see you again maybe in June on and that is just not going to work for People Jeremiah spoke to that in real detail. which is you know? The construction skilled trades is really a agile group of individuals. They go there where the projects are with opportunities are and so you know I think you know Detroit at point time when it was you know. Detroit prior to World War or two was one of the richest cities in the world and one of the largest is still right. One hundred thirty nine square. Miles is one of the largest cities in America as well. But you know I think thinks some things have happened. Pulse war to that out on the economic downturn as a result a lot of our construction skilled trades journey. Men's went to where those opportunities were or we're at that time so some went down to the state of Texas and started to build up those areas as Atlanta came on so we lost a lot of that skilled trade Labor Labor that we had and they went to the where the opportunities are now. Because the city is in this resurgence and it's building itself up in reinventing itself it now l. has need for that talent. You know we saw it with district. Detroit when I was in the workforce a Detroit Employment Solutions You know we have twelve thousand folks come through our portal looking for opportunities construction skill traits so as more you know opportunities for development go on more and more folks get that idea that hey I want to be part of that well and it's not just limited to construction I mean I see companies like quicken and IT companies technology companies. All trying to hire and find people and and I mean a lot of them are having a heck of a time doing it. You know it's funny. You mentioned that you know one of the things that I did once. We got the what we call the Detroit Register Apprenticeship Program Program or D wrap as it was affectionately known as underway the other piece I looked at as we're the we're the hot jobs were it healthcare and so we started looking at. Can we apprentice size those opportunities in a way or create special initiative. So one of the things we did was create tech higher. It was actually a initiative by the of Obama Administration but we took some anchor employers that were in the region that had technology needs and did eight week boot camps. We then spun off of that and I call it you. It was almost like a farm system in baseball. So we have triple A. With eight week boot camp we started a federally registered apprenticeship program. That took nine months and then we thought about folks that aren't even in the it space altogether but might have that interest and we created a tech accelerator that may lead to the bootcamp or the apprenticeships or either either a direct entry into safe. You know help desk or something like that. Well I look at what you're you're talking about and I think it's important because I think about the idea you know we talked about this idea of a boom in Detroit right. They've seen things happen downtown. And in select neighborhoods and frankly in different parts of the region Ferndale Etcetera Etcetera Etcetera. Thing is though is that I don't think we know what a real boom looks like in Charlotte a few months ago and like that's what a boom is right and Oakland County Executive David Coulter was is on the stage today. Talking about how in the Detroit urban area compared to our compared to other cities we've lost six percent of our population while other cities. These have gained population. I said there go. Okay I see the beginnings of a boom. I see the beginnings of what of what could be sustainable turnaround but we don't know what that even looks like. And how do we. How do we even skill up for that? And how. Where do we go from here? And I feel like you're somebody who's maybe got some insight with that. Yes so two things one is is. You're you're right we're really at the infancy of this boom in terms of what it can mean to the region. The other piece of this is also re imagining and re envisioning. What a boom looks? Life does it just cover the one hundred thirty nine square miles or is it the six point nine square miles of the midtown or is it something about southeastern Michigan or is it the entire state. If you think about the county's Wayne Oakland and McCall that's forty percent of the nature of the State's population is so we really need to think about a regional. Play play here right because I mean Oakland County counts for. It's one of the biggest economic centers point five percent out in Washington. All you've got Ann Arbor which frankly the economic center owner of the state has been moving west and arborists. been doing like gangbusters lately and it's gorgeous out there what thank you. We love it of the Washington. County arena is a major player in this market. So it's not just the big three. There is Washington county as well and if you think about the tech the immobility avanced manufacturing. That is a cornerstone in a corner. Space that Ann Arbor really has a lock on right now So that as we start talking about mobility is you know in new technology. There's there's so many there are so many firms out that way and so what I'm looking at is how do we create talent pipeline. That supplies them as well. But more importantly we all come come together and we've produced something greater each of our individual efforts and so that's why I think one Michigan prevails in this situation. What are the next steps? What what an accepts for you? What are the next steps? Wash Community College. How does this ball move forward? Well again I think it's US really embracing what challenges are in in terms of talent. You know because talent is is like blood of all these organizations and companies and so part of this is the vision and mission. And I'll leave that to the politicians into the administrators and whatnot in terms of how they want to imagine their local areas for us. We're sitting here as talent provider meaning that we can either bring folks into the system that are new coming through our doors every day but also help skill up those incumbent workers that need to skill up to what the new skill sets. It's our technology infuses every industry known to man and from that standpoint we all have to become lifelong learners because our job is probably going to be ever changing because technology. He's ever changing. Well if somebody wants to make a change learn more you know kind of find a different direction. What can they do? So there's multiple paths to that From from that standpoint I would say definitely if somebody's thinking about what they wanNA do next or they're they're in a job but they don't feel like they're in a career I would say they need to go a to a Michigan works or they should come to the community colleges the either front I think they would be on good grounds to get a better sense of where these jobs are where the jobs are going in. The future state actually has a campaign through the Michigan Economic Growth Corporation called going pro. It generally list of fifty top jobs and in some of those. You don't need a four year degree so from that standpoint we need to figure out those career pathways figure out what for the individual and that wants to pursue something In terms of another career path or the first career path you know and do that bit little bit of research. But I think it's good to have folks like for instance Michigan Works There there are sixteen up throughout the state. That's free service you can go in there really get some career exploration underway and then again for every community college and educational provider. They can really give you a good level. Set a what ACCU patients are in demand and what you can expect out of those. Well I have to say you must be truly committed to working together because I gave you the opportunity to directly plug washtenaw community college and your reaction was community colleges and working together so so you are walking the walk. Well yeah I gotTA walk the walk. I mean obviously I'm at Washtenaw for one. Good reason which is I believe they have the best resources available vote and that they can you know there. There's a slogan that we say. What do you call somebody? Who's gone to Wash College Community College employment so there you go because I think the community colleges? I don't do a great job of being agile enough to move to the employers education or training demands and equip those individuals that want to go through those programs with the skill Gil says necessary to be able to be productive in the labor force. While we'll make sure to include a link in the show notes Jose Reyes from Washtenaw community. College thank you so much for spending time with us. Don Dailey Detroit. Well thank you. It's been a pleasure and that'll do it for today. A couple of stories stories. We have our eyes on that. We want to talk about tomorrow. Andre Drummond has been traded from the Detroit Pistons and sure. There's the on the court impact but Andre was also really active off-the-court as well and bus ridership in the suburbs is up way up over the last couple of years and that's according new smart data. So what does that mean spin in an I will break that down and of course we'll talk about more on your daily Detroit. Also if you're looking to go out this weekend. You should totally check out with Dan. Austin is doing over at the motorcity so club. It was pretty cool. I want to say that they got a shoutout in Rolling Stone magazine for this event that happens on a monthly basis spinning northern soul. All at a great venue the marble bar right there near the new center the Fisher building all of that the doors open at nine thirty music starts at ten on Saturday night. And who who knows you might even catch a couple of us there. Because it's just that good of a time with that I'm jared days. Thanks for listening. See you around Detroit

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Un escenario de Star Wars: Skellig Michael

Podcast RadioViajera

10:53 min | 2 years ago

Un escenario de Star Wars: Skellig Michael

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Should professional athletes health information be public or private?

Arch City Foot & Ankle

16:20 min | 8 years ago

Should professional athletes health information be public or private?

"This is WTF what the foot Radio podcast podcast to tune into and learn all about feat in the news Entertainment Sports and Healthcare. You want to know the truth? We will give you the truth. Welcome everyone. This is dr. Dennis timko. The foot guy. You are listening to my what the foot Radio podcast. Hello. Everybody. Welcome to juice the foot radio. And this is dr. Dennis timko. And this is our 13th podcast. Thank you everybody for supporting our podcast and we have now reached the two month Mark of downloads at iTunes. So hopefully all you fans out there. I know I'm just a small guy on the speck of the iTunes. I'm still worth trying and you know, you gotta start from somewhere. And so this is something I enjoy doing and obviously it's helping boost my ratings and my website down. Www.com has gone from Alexa ranking of 21 million down to 350,000 which is the globe a poll ranking of websites in the whole world. So I guess I'm doing something right over the last several months since I began Life podcast in September of last year. So without further Ado today. I'm going to make this kind of short just want everybody to know that the podcasts are going to be kind of limited over the next couple of months not because Of anything serious, but I am getting my board recertification in the next couple of months. I'll be focused on that as well as working and fighting all these insurance claims and all the good stuff with that goes with running a medical practice in a Solo practice private physician. So, you know our in-laws married to a Bosnian woman beautiful Bosnian woman and her father and mother came all the way from Bosnia. So I wanted to give a shout out to them. They really helped us over the last six months enjoyed their company and really missed them. They came over from Bosnia to help us take care of our newborn child who's now eight months old and this morning really fun. I get to take my son to daycare by myself. So it's kind of interesting if you were from, New Jersey. The wall watching that you probably get a kick out of it. But you know, the iPad is something else, you know, all these kids these days. They see the iPhone and the iPad and off Android phones and they they kind of like like a magnet to these electronic devices. I mean these kids just zoom in on them and it's just kind of interesting. I don't know what we had when when I was younger the seventies and eighties. I don't remember ever having an iPad or maybe an Atari 2600 or something. But but we put the iPad down and of course we FaceTime with our in-laws and off so I don't speak the language that well, but I still FaceTime and and Aiden wanted to see Aiden's are a little boy and he wanted to see Grandma and Grandpa's so he kind of crawls the military crawl on the floor and you put the iPad down you kind of calls to it and he tries to look behind it. And it's like he's trying to see if they're really there and and it's just kind of interesting to see. Yep. Little kids develop and and you know, I love the little guy and enjoying my fatherhood for the first time. Anyway, without further Ado again. Let's begin on our baseball rant. And what are the things I write on this blog today is about the HIPAA and Privacy Act and how with fantasy leagues starting baseball starting soon in the next few weeks. Everybody's kind of getting ramped and raved about their you know, drafts and fantasy drafts and they want to know who's good and who's not good and who's injured and who's on injured and who should I pick first overall or you know, tenth round blah blah blah, but you know, you hear all these you know Recaps and you know, these guys getting injured shoulder injuries and in preseason games and and and it's like my gosh, I mean if this was the real world and these guys obviously aren't in the real world there are different category than the average person dead. You can't tell somebody, you know, hey, they've got a shoulder injury. It's private, you know, it's it's only their information. It can't be public well in the case of baseball and hockey league baseball and football and all these professional athletes the owners need to know this information on how to put together their team, they're spending millions and billions of dollars to put together these expensive players. They need to know how their health is doing and how to read the re-sign the player or keep them on the team or you know, it's an investment is a business. It's no longer, you know, like a college or high school game. It's no longer played, you know for fun reasons. It's it's more of a business now. I mean, the players are actually playing for fun most of the time but once you stop playing for fun, it's no longer, you know a game. It's more of a business from the standpoint of the Owners Club. Coach so it's important for them to know their history and the health situation. So again, these players are in a different category and I think being in that millionaire category may I think we have every right as fans paying to go see them play for entertainment purposes. We have every right as fans to know how our players are hurt or not hurt. There is a lot of money invested in in going to these games and driving to the ballpark and paying for that 10. Our beer and that hundred and $29.95 MLB TV package. So we want to know what's going on with our players and how long they're going to be out for a month exactly is wrong with them as a physician. I kind of like to know too because especially if it's a foot and ankle problem. I can kind of have an up on most of the other players in my league knowing that job What kind of injury it is and I can kind of say if they're really going to be out for a long time or what to expect. For example, Jose Reyes shortstop. Former Toronto Blue Jays injured his ankle sprained severely. If you ever watched that game he slid into second base on a steal and 29 year old player pretty good player for many years. Especially fantasy wise is one of the top three shortstops on April 12th. He sprained his ankle. Luckily. He didn't break it but a horrible sprained probably a grade 3 Sprain and if anybody knows ankle sprains grade one, there are three major ligaments on the outside of the ankle and so each increment is a grade. So if you sprained one, it's great one if you spring two of them, it's great too. And if you sprained all three, it's grade three. I don't know exactly which grade it was but most likely since birth. Heard a pop when he slid and he was out for three months. I'm assuming it's going to be possibly be a Grade Three which is the worst one. He was out for three months. He took his full time out. He had about four hundred nineteen at-bats, but he still doubted just under 300. He stoled less than 20 basis when he came back. So I think because it was just a sprain and not a break. I think this year he had a full year to recover and even had some games played at the end of the year. I think he should be good. I would expect top five but he is kind of one of those players. It's kind of goes the whole out. So he has a tendency of possibly potentially injuring something again, but the other thing I wanted to talk about was another catcher page Giovanni Soto Giovanni Soto is the starting catcher for the Texas Ranger and he recently on in February had a a strike gonna my dog Moved from his foot from his left foot. The aastra Gangnam is a small extra bone that occurs in about 2 to 7% of people. It's a small little bone that sits behind the ankle bone called the tailless between the ankle and the heel bone called the calcaneus. It's in the back of the foot off in front of the Achilles tendon. So this little bone actually is right next to a tendon called the flexor hallucis longus tendon. It is the tendon that pulls your big toe down. So anytime you plant your Flex or bend your foot toward the floor like a dancer doing an in point type of dance and and standing on their toes that is called plantar flexion. So that injury causes from hyper plantar flexion or from a Thursday. Rain or from running down Hills. And so normally six to eight weeks in a cast would be normal treatment for this inflamed area. But he looks like he had some problems and end up having surgery. The surgery would make him if they if they had to open him up and take that bone out. That's an area of a lot of special nerve endings and blood supply the posterior tibial artery. Is there the posterior tibial nerve not too far away. It's a very very touchy area. So most likely he had a scope done to remove this phone, which would give him a couple more weeks earlier to recover but the normal recovery. Is probably around six to eight weeks for this surgery, but with a scope probably more like 4 to 6, so he's going to be someone I probably wouldn't argh. And most likely in a deep-league for catch or especially a to capture League. I wouldn't go after him. He probably won't be full going until probably be July or August. So again back to the hip and Privacy Act and how I feel about that is that you know, these guys are definitely in a different ball park. No pun intended then the average person. So I do believe that the HIPAA Privacy Act does not pertain to them in terms of you know, the history and of the game and and how much money is involved in the sport and you know, what and the thing is it's just the muscle skeletal problems. It's not a serious problem. I don't want to know if the person has HIV or the person is diabetic or if the person has cancer or if the player has some kind of chronic disease that's not necessary to talk about but you know if it's a if it's a muscle skeletal injury a foot sprain an ankle sprain, I see no problem. I don't mind telling it if it was mine. There's no problem. Add and I mean but it is a game. It is entertainment. There's a lot of money involved, you know, these guys are making millions. I believe the average salary in Major League Baseball in 2013 was up like 5.4% to about 3.39 million. There's a link on my website and my bog down to where that this talks about it and the average wage in the US was about 42,000 and the average wage so you can see how significant we these players are making a lot more and they are in a different category than we are the minimum wage for Major League player in 2014 is half a mill. So minimum wage is half a mill. Can you believe that half a mill? I think most of us will take the average person make a month. 3 mm taken over twelve years to reach that half a mil Mark. So the minimum wage half a mill. I definitely think these these guys are definitely in a different category than the average person off. So again, I know I'm going back and forth back and forth. But the last thing I want to talk about is ingrown toenails and players and I know there was a guy a guy that plays for the Chicago White Sox Caviezel Garcia, I believe is his name. He was a a recent trade last year from the Detroit Tigers and how filled their big pretty big guy said. They say that he's the next when he was on Detroit that he was the next Cabrera, but I don't know about that. Anyway, he had an ingrown toenail last year guy by the name of Bryce Harper, which everybody probably knows had an ingrown toenail and I have a little tweaked that he put out last year of the picture of his ingrown toenail so ingrown toenails birth In a lot of ball players because they wear those tight cleats and they have to wear somewhat of a tight cleat. And if I remember back when I played ball, they're pretty pretty hard off the top so it can definitely rub and irritate the side of your big toenail and cause an ingrown toenail just to remind all those fantasy players if any of your players get an ingrown nail, don't worry. Don't worry as long as they're seeing a podiatrist for the problem. I guarantee they'll be back on the field in less than two days. Okay. So if they came to my office and had an ingrown toenail, I would guarantee them back on the field in less than two days. They might miss one or two games at the most probably just one. Okay. So these ingrown toenails are very simple to fix they don't cause a lot of discomfort when you get them out. Just takes a little local anesthetic to the tow. So no problem. Anyway, I think that's it. I hope you guys enjoyed this short broadcast of me talking about the HIPAA and Privacy Act and read my blog about it. And I hope everybody's enjoying my podcast off and I will continue to put them out regardless of I get 200 views or I get zero views I enjoy talking and and putting out some information. I'm kind of focusing on baseball since preseason is full fully in charge right now, and we're going to see some some baseball starting in April. So I hope everybody enjoys the talk and we'll see you soon. Well, that's it for the WTF podcast show. Thank you for joining us off. 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Dr. Mounce at the International Cryptozoology Museum

All Things - Unexplained

18:27 min | 3 months ago

Dr. Mounce at the International Cryptozoology Museum

"All things unexplained hosted by dr mouths. Let's face it. We were always read roll without in any way. Cj derringer ain't nobody perfect right and smitty. Nieves i've never planned out poorly my whole love free featuring cajun man. I'm nobody somebody looking for somebody. I'm here at the portland maine. International cryptos zoology museum super friendly people terrific entrance with a massive alligator gar on the wall. I love the alligator gar by the way my son loves river monsters and i grew up in mississippi Trying to kids alligator gar and river monsters actually just had an episode where he was in mississippi and louisiana kitchen alligator gar Hat there are really hard to catch. But we used to catch him. Yeah so john. Alligator gore on the wall. Like i said my son loves what you remember monsters and they just had a recent episode in mississippi and louisiana kitchen alligator gar exhibit on the dodo. Extinct bird really cool. Bigfoot town history in oil giant easter allen had tasmanian tiger the listen display really cool place Shut up to my friend. Wolf can a huge. We're will display here at the international crypto. Zoology museum nice giants off display extinct animals. Dan sores really cool. Fiji mermaid display and the jackal malkin down and really cool hall of creatures. Now chrissy corniche el man moth man jersey circuit jersey digital sea serpents china to push two-car birth lot not monster schinkel rink large bigfoot hominids creature yeti grendel the many other sea serpent neanderthals devil. Monkeys mir horse mirman sort of alien creature walks off or legs by the way. I'm away over here. Over driver relayed the most fascinating paranormal story on boston ohio. I never heard this story. But i've got a pass along so definitely worthy of investigation in boston. Ohio involved native americans military bonkers also involved in anti american canadian. Bigfoot name is escaping me at the moment windy go. That's crypt on looking forward. So the uber driver pass on the great windy ghost story. There's an upstairs. There's a huge. Bigfoot display all types of beef of hader would knocking to an occasional quadruple eight grayson displays cetera. Lots bigfoot cast terrific display scientific displays strident cripple. Foot cast. this flu really nasu cast no way you could consider that comes from a human great display now. Friend of the show special guests. Becky could talk to a little. Bit about mr gambling Some trivia for you in the museum did you know mutant ninja turtles or based on traditional ancient. Japanese scripted called campus or compass. I did not know that. Great painting of patty other. Great piece of trivia from international crypto. Zoology museum in portland maine. Did you know can't was considered extinct until nineteen thirty eight. When this prehistoric cretaceous fish was rediscovered. Second search nineteen fifty two resulted in another silicon discovery. This fine inspired nineteen fifty four's creature from the black lagoon. Shut out of the show kilted creature. I feel like this. Probably inspired him as wael and his patented brand of swamp music bagpipe swamp medal. I should say Hey this is dr males. I'm here at the international crypto. Zoology museum in portland. Maine with nate. And missy right appreciate. You'll have mahir tiller by how they can check out the international crypto. Zoology museum you can find us on facebook. Excuse me facebook At the international purpose gee and we also have a website the international. Zoology search sutton on the website. That way to allston. See from your zoology. Museum dot com does museum. Kind of find out about this atmos obscure would ninety percent of people saying they find us through atlas obscure own like travel like that for sure and on television. General over four has but featured the museum of mysteries museum and also how. How long does the museum been here. It's been in at thompson's points in two thousand sixteen but it went onto. Its first location after being more towers in the nine from two thousand nine told toi sixteen. It was on congress street portland but it's been at toss point since two thousand sixteen. Oh collecting since two thousand three. So tell me more about lauren. Who is well. He is the founder and director of this museum and this is his collection that he's been tortured collecting tying. He's been a part of the field for sixty years medicine. Lauren cole coleman right. Yes tons of shows through tons of books and so i saw some really fasting things about lauren. Coleman clinton effect hate his own things with dodger jail from. He's been in comic books. Maybe unsolved mysteries of nineties. Yeah i loved unsolved mysteries. Camp got me into the paranormal and then hung explaining gentleman and probably jose reyes. Yes it did. So i wanted to is both. What got you interested in crypto zoology. You can go first. Because i know it was like under the don ours feet but it's a few things for me. Used to check out books in my library. Since i was a little kid when i discovered all their weird like ghosts bigfoot things like that but then i also a mix of my love for monster movies and things like that king. Conrad got me into the idea that there could be like real unknown animals out there. Yeah exactly and then just kind of snowballed from there. So i got watching shows reading more books and things like that and missy n my kind of same thing. I grew up watching all the tv shows. All the i'll tell mystery sightings going down like way back before you inform me to watch. Do y'all remember the show inserts of lower. Leonard and the candidates snowballed from there. Like i more like a paranormal person But i feel like with this field like there's just so many rabbit holes in can rela field that you have like have interest in believe or not necessarily believed that you have been nail that these things are possible and and full. I know exactly where you're coming from private host every store. We do put my just seem like on the surface. There's just you know it's just this. Okay here's the story but then when you get to examining it it just opens fantastic colleague never ending interconnected wail of madness one thing from crypt zoologist spent like days just going down the rabbit hole and surging for our our very first episode ever was was interviewing a man who was part of one of the most famous ufo sightings ever and we thought it was going to be early really simple story ride and it just went on it was so deep so complex so interconnected with themes you know even today's events and this was in the seventies crazy so i'm gonna put both spot again. What are your favorite credit cards. My favorite cryptocurrency. There's some debate about my favorite because some people don't necessarily believe that he's a crept up but i'm i love my man. I love lot mop before he became like super popular mainstream. But i'm also you're talking. But i'm also i love sasquatch. I think it's it's so interesting to think that there is being that is out there. Like self nafta the soccer balls the first your vote darnold. Oh i see history as not know at two point before even before mothman was like quad yard cited like that. A lot of it had to do you of those ideas either at the same time before after But i really liked the file. Shares one of the more plausible ones because insisted on point and to this day still say i was kind of caught them on camera and video. Nothing conclusive by really financing right. And and i'm glad all talked about the crossover of ufo's in sasquatch and social because one thing we knows is there is crossover from between the paranormal religion and science. Ufo's big fluids. It all seems to to cross over like it's not distinct. You know boxed stem subjects. There there is some carry over there and talked about it. Talked about the window. Lake window areas like caught spots s nets. A lot of our guests have experiences with multiple phenomenon. Not just one entity but we did have a couple long. That operated crystalline arkansas. And they josh gates has been there for expedition unknown for a ufo incident but they also have incidents with kids and even even teleportation of crystals materialize. On just like. I like bridgewater's yup. Yup and i appreciate your time so much. This dodge male summit the international crypto. Zoology museum in portland maine. By tesla. one more thing if a person or an adult is interesting. Getting into crypto zoology. What's a good place to start the. Abc crypto zoology. Book by loren coleman. Also so after trump was yeah and then also cobb mysterious america also another vote by on loren coleman. Those are great beginner. Books also tells decrypted spy Rick spears kelly halls. That's what i would check out from the library. That's a very good one. It's it's not. It's not so much child oriented but it's got a lot of lake starter stuff to sort of entice you to going deeper into certain krypton and things like that and if you're not a reader small-time monsters all of those documentaries by on seth freight la free law. Yes afri both. All of his documentaries are great as well and actually run a group on facebook called the association of crypto zoological few working analysis that we now just past three thousand members also saw a lot of wakefield investigators things that are involved with that we the show will check you all out and we'll tell dubai yes just me and my husband we have eight. Paranormal group called paranormal five. Investigate with our children we do big foot's excursions and stuff like that. And but like i said we're more paranormal. Not so much that we're out there where dipping our toes in all of it. So it's also and you only go around this area. The main the northeast Northeast probably doing lynn big pennsylvania and everything thought as well so. Okay well all aviation where my coa. I've to co host and cj are based in north carolina in so we're jus- we're situated just east of the rory national forest where's of big titties have in life since famous night vision footage of bigfoot. They're reaching out to grab a zacks. Yeah finally big not actually order. Tell it's not easy to get ended. they are delicious. They like dark chocolate and butter and coconut. But even so i could so i'll be looking good for an tastes but open invitation if you're ever done around north carolina or i'm from mississippi and my co-host media's mississippi and we we have lots of Mississippi so open invitation down there sometime really love to hear how long two lane i may when i married my husband years ago. So i've been new hampshire so far so so you your first winter here still here so use. A new englander doesn't matter not too far so today ninety five now worry talk scorching hot and i grew up in mississippi of you don't think survived the winter. The heat. well. I appreciate both. Okay i said unexplained once it starts now we would love to follow us five store view. Check us out at all. Things dash unexplained dot com there. You will find links to our facebook. instagram twitter. I mean coffee and patriot on this. Podcast made possible with listeners. Like you we are also brought to you by coma. Toast tacos home of squatting dot com. You'll find my children's appreciate you. All mixed this has been all things unexplained.

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Kindfolk: Growing A Stronger Voice in Northern Ontario

The Music Prophet

32:31 min | 2 years ago

Kindfolk: Growing A Stronger Voice in Northern Ontario

"Hello and welcome to the music profit. We've had a lot of mixed genres can people who have toured around. We've also had musicians for just starting am excited because today we have have you owe who are just starting to break in February. This is kind folk a Mitch. I've Meghan on the better off the do Jose. Reyes hit on T. Shirt when thanks for having us by the way up and comer students you see that rarely we get optimistic. podcast `specially something. That's new where it's not much podcast. It's there's not much flats Taking on that project on getting other people people come on the ladder to join on fumble with our type of music to coup stick. Lots just sit down and listen to that with actually yeah. I think it's a great way to jump in because you guys aren't acoustic duo. So like tell me about when you guys Started performing songs. What were you thinking around sound in like? You're trying to make a different intentionally. I think the best way to describe. It is restarted in the French. We got our feet down. Pretty good into Francine. We're pretty well known like we had many projects together like we played at Lenny's sleep time. No we won many contests certain basically out as a full ban but then everybody getting their lives together except for also the band just lay down and then there were none type thing so that kind of kicked off the acoustic dual where we were just right around songs earns. Our view for fundamental turned into wedding gigs and it turned on top of the three buckets turned into gigs and valley stays. You're playing since high schools. That was pretty longtime fan. I just graduated last year in this graduated to use ago. So so. We're kind of both faring life out but we still want us to be part of our lives so anything. That's what's really important is as long as you love. It would let me get to get so many projects on the go. So it's nice to keep this grounded in keep this thing going because it's is only one person bouncing ideas off. It's not just the whole band just putting ideas in which can be fun as well but it's fun to strip it all back and stick with the roots and say what we have to say not have to worry about or what this guy's going to the band whatnot take us through experience like which person in the in the duo writes songs in which person is the one that person the way I would explain it as I write the songs and Megan just puts in her two cents that just rounded up and just make it perfect where the the melody work especially where. That's all Megan. My problem is I read four court songs and I love it because it's like I said it's taking them back from that. Full Dan thing taking the pedal title board way in my room and see what I can come up with and it's fun to come up with lyrics and then Megan will bounce some ideas off me and it becomes this whole thing in it. Usually ends ends up in something that we really mean to say. That's close in home in the bus. Were already look. You're not something that we always agree on. We never finish a song song for number one hundred percent certain event Any feeling we even have like league. Individual I don't know like he like certain music. I like certain kinds of music in hell sing. It went certain way. And then I'll come and like travel here. Let me try a money. Try another way in like we see two sides of it now it hosting it in one way or something and I'll say the other one something else so I think that's something that's really cool being you do in him. Also being singer is that we get to different point of views. Also guy girl so we also try to work with that as well. So it's more relatable for everyone not assess play. Does that play a factor in your songs like when you write it especially for michief. ELEC- are you thinking. It should be great great for her to take over the lead versus me. One hundred percent one of our last songs we were in Grandy for one wonderful Competitions yeah and I was just had the guitar kicking around where some cheap motel is really gross by the way he recall mentioning the noses kicking around this idea and architect. My head was Daddy. I'm a big girl now here. I am singing that ticket setback. Why why am I singing this up just writing a song about it in like with Megan's intentions time and then we actually met up together like three four months later and relax he should actually ran songhua disease in my hand? He's a fighter weird when I sing it uh-huh so we actually wrote a song together. That wants kind of I feel like that's the only had both a big part in Both like lyrically Melodic everything everything was pretty much like a half-and-half on and then we've been. I'm surprised my dad with that song ever father's Day because that's how it took a long time for it to get so you know it's hard to write a song wrong. End To make ideas full ideas intact trying to get a point across finally got to the point in it turned out to really good eh required result growth. And he's Seabra. He's fine with that you it kind of sounds like it. Sounds like you have a lot of background experiences. Just a combination of most of it like hitting a peak almost outlive. What's at me when I listened to his list for? That's that's my thing nagging hockey with this part of this song when she does this voice in. It's like it's cool that you but you see how that that builds a song where we have that perfect mix between us were it works just perfectly fine because we're not stepping on each other's toes with it because you respect Ktar are what we bring to the table in the film. That's why it works so one thing I am good at the other in for Qatar wise. They usually let him do mental. Sit Down on like I'm not here so he'll play something on what you like when like like I can't the place I n like. He does a really good job because he figures out was pretty hard but ninety thank you thank you add. Your interpretation on top of the lyrics was a brilliant Lynn. Mix of everything. Actually you no you in. It's how it's most things come out where it's fun Mentioned before where it's until songs we get that magic object to show it to our parents in. It's like you don't try to get a tear over one yet at tear. Our limits like okay. This is a good one done. Well it means something in somebody in you said something worth saying. Your parents played within music for you get I will. My Dad was a musician growing up as well so I was kicking around with his guitar since I was a kid. Grow Up to him. Convincing Weimar Guitars announced in a bigger room because I have too many guitars mom. Yeah my mom was was had a musical family but never really seen a grown-up a now grown up. Let's see that she writes lots of poems. And I think that's the songwriting comes from looking back home for real. My mom used to sing in church all the time so as funny as it is. She's not even that she's not really a singer but she does know how to sing but she's still like harmonize in in church music so obsessed in wanting to do that in one day. They asked me to go sing the national anthem or or something and I was so happy so excited. It's like seeing my mom. I was my way of kind of getting in Also my dad loves to sing too so like watching watching my dad and my whole family like they weren't it wasn't like a musical family play. We just you've seen them. Do you wanted to kind of do it to you but besides Izod. I don't really have any thing my family but my parents have helped me a lot through the whole thing when I think of something I let them know or with a lyric idea as we do the same what will be at his house and we'll be doing something like your mom. Sushi thinks of your data just to get other inputs out of our own circle like to see what others think because if we only have our minds too please in is it really hit with anyone else so we try to get the diversity of Dotson Dotson Songs Hanger Parents Big Role in those cancer so your parents the style the musical in your parents he take that into consideration when you ask them for feedback no guide to the floor. Suber like Twain Country Fall and my dad used eating like this like rock kids so my parents they love our type of music because it's is nothing they really easy listening. Exactly I find it. It works in our favor to because of those extreme genres. Though pitch an idea was like okay this might sound crazy but like canals. Can you put it in. Like some harmonizing guitar pedal here like not really can't but I like this sounds owns glow you get you pull away little ideas from their their big ideas in using comes out something in the song. Yeah but understand where they're proud of because they had impertinent. Yeah and it's too. That's what I like about songwriting. In writing our own stuff is that you get other people's input not only you and I who has like an attachment to the song we also have someone else's like my daughter wrote that for me like you know that's how my dad is for his song and he's six sing. Sing this lonely you wrote for. He gets his kind of pride of that was my daughter who wrote this. So it's it's nice to have that kind of thing in like very nice for yourself south L. Y.. Like what is your drive to make music at this point. I don't know I think it's just a stress reliever but also it's. It's fun to be in the seat. We haven't really been in the English. Seen local scene is a whole other monster than a functioning. It's don't get me wrong. Refreshing is on the English team Today where you it's Networking opportunity anywhere. And it's I I feel like to English. Scene is three or four times. The size of the French scene and support is so much harder to get from English. One does come yeah. I've got it is exactly the Frenchies always support. But you gotTA show every three month's English and you got going on every weekend you get people's brutal brutal opinions but it's it's fun after a while the screamed out in the Barclay for your Burger. Whatever it is and for me like I? I'm mostly into the French. Seen singing wise. I I just did a diva Recently in June and I was Super Fun it was a big production but as much as it is big and it was grand and it was this big thing. I select saying this because I love the French scene. I much prefer the English because you have more people to connect with as for French French. Everybody's hearts dying. Yes in some ways but like English music. Some people know much more avid they can connect more to it if they understand it. And that's what I like about our venues gigs vinnie's so much fun because we have some crowds that the same from last and then we have some more on top of that. And that's just a good feeling. It's fun because it's just about you. Was People vote. Yeah that's huge. I mean like especially when you think about like. Sometimes I'll ask people if there's any like French. Musicians are desert musicians you wanna see on the show and the times when you ask about French musicians the first to go to stop paquet and that's it and yeah but it's incredible. How many French musicians are on separate? It's it's huge and I personally didn't even know about them until I got into it and that super sad because some of them are super super great. I feel like they should like they should be crazed more than what they are because it's so small near and a lot of them you take a step back can realize these people have roots in the French. While to- Jim kills a prime example where they all started out as French musicians to see them grow as they are now the cavaliers project project It's cool to see. Some people have the same kind of upbringing not saying but very similar in its school relate to those people. Let's see what the what they're doing with their music right. And then you get the the types of like Patrick Right yes who are who are in legacies and on the key frames and now line nine and is yeah exactly. That's another person who was like. Wow this is so so long where it's like all those people. Luke also have the roots in French music. Yeah and that's that's good to me because the French music. It's be as weird as possible. That's how it is you go to any French show in its. You won't get to genius. Aim people no matter no matter what will get a surf survived from wine. You'll get screened vibe. From one in the crowd loves at all of course like I said it's it's once once every three months where it's it's which is fine but because you feel like you're back home again but the same time. The Bar scene is very fun festivals and and which is it sucks. There's a good representation in France without also where we live in. What not yeah? So where's that balance silence then because he that's a really good point like where's the balance between making your French fans as happy as English fans are. I think nowadays where we'll squeak. Begin a French song and that always issue the English people pissed off about it. And that's enough for them. I knew exactly woody said there and you did it. That seems like it's enough for them to like it and he can come back the actor it. Yeah and then like I enjoy. I enjoy doing both but it's just like you said doing at least one song just to say. Hey we still exists just because you kind of as bad as on your to them lockdown loaded. Like they're already there so MS Lohan kind of plugging something French. Listen to. That's something we relate to do well so and we also have a song that we wrote will. We didn't right. Sorry we have had like a musical influence silence in there we wrote for like this. The school board Home and it's called pathway in that. Ah Crazy it is the kids the kids love it. You don't like that. Everybody likes it so much. It's like a school the anthem type. Fine Yeah we had to. We had like a French gig. insists In in June. And we played that song in. It's crazy because they only know French music in their kind of only obligated to French music in their schools. So when you bring out a song like that they're like oh you're you're apart Refined we always try to find like a balance between the two always try to like. Oh here's something for us but lake. Here's more in English side of us as you find that influence influence then like is the does the French community influence the way that you create English music. We're honored percent like you mentioned before staff Balk at his role you've he. He brought us up couple years ago. We are using competition wanting and he really. He taught me so much where it was like. In the in Greece of three days we had to spend the whole day with him and he just critiqued the crap out of her songs and that was that was a sovereign challenge. Yeah uh-huh uh-huh and it was like me we've never seen anything like that where it's like Megan's voices awesome and it's like you always should. We always get praised for things than the show up there. He's like it's shit guys like us man. Yeah like 'cause you made it compared to people who didn't already have like this big ego so you can appreciate from He always says don't going something into something with include a huge ego because no one's GonNa appreciating their and that's I think Sunday we're super humbled about is that her talent in when we have a we always make thing to thank everybody for being there because we know how upcoming we are. It's just nice to let them know you know it's really appreciated that you guys are here because not many people get this opportunity in like Chris very awesome he lets us play there. He's we felt that the the the bar the one time he wants us there all the time so I think I think we've definitely regatta. People Little Fan base going on which is nice rate like that helps that also gives you the feedback. Yes especially when they go show up more often than they feel more comfortable and it's like McCain earlier tonight and it's like yeah I was like you were feeling John something else. Interesting work as planter. Yeah and even then I find with all that we do interpret like do different songs. We'll try to do it like kind folk folk way. We always say that I love you all will do kind folk you know. And that's something apparently appreciate and even like our name was just so out there too. Where'd you 'cause I'm a that sounds cool and then I was watching some prison show a couple of weeks later after we did our facebook page? We got her feeding with kind. Full realize Kinfolk Info means white people in general knows that into whatever beat now. Yeah there's already it's already back now. Try to say like we're kind folks. That's where we kind of That's sort of what I thought. Initially when he when you hear kind folk I start. It seems like it's a call back to how nice Like just two nights musicians. I feel like easy listening. That's the vibe where we're going to. We're not like some. Sometimes we do play. The tone road hits in staffing. We see the younger. Yeah I'm going but also we'd like to just do the country like it was interesting interesting. Yeah you're right it gets and I think that some like as another third quick thing before and it was song like can you share more of the way that you make set list. I think I want to see the master every time we have a GIG. I that's one thing I put so much thought into because yes. Your first song has to be big but you also have to have something in the middle to keep people entertained so we always start with like a big hit. I think last time was Cowboy and what to do is like if I have a little story to the song before I started late to address it and it makes people really like. Oh my God is if you still remember that from when you were like six years old. It's not like anything. It really keeps people involved in interested so we always try to really pleased are songs accordingly. If I have a story in an illegal was probably be dead. Tiger probably up to two metres time so I always try to think in. I always you get a second opinion. Like what do you think is the army issue there but we always a good song. Sons are a little slower will try to put like maybe wine there and we try to not have many slow songs at all. True men will every four songs will try to put in a slow one also request to have a couple of people walking for this one time Okay second-set but there's some fun request to. Sometimes I remember just what he was in his entourage. Roll singing last time. Yeah it was really really fun and I think that's what's cool too. That were so easy going I find in we want we will. We don't want it to be like a show. Where concert wanted to be like ingathering gathering Kim for what they want them to feel included? I Like I've always been drug drunk as it's funny but I like when people feel like they have a pardon to it right and that's when you create a envy's is when they feel like they took part into something and they feel like kind of super cool. You should check them out in that we get more and more people in it's neither man As much as we love having are super cool like setup set list we also like to throw something personalized sliced in there for the crowd and stuff. So what are your songwriting influences. That rot that indirect message but at the same meantime against very catchy Dawood's is a big one for the for the things that are using what he wants to say way too recently. Were just has lines that that just catching it's like the. Im Group in one of the songs like Oh man that stuck in my head. You're doing some house coons I am Wise that once song stuck in my head but also tunes that it's like the annoym- ones Mosi certain things because it's relatable anything also like him saying smokes more than the staff anything you just brought a little bit of set theory you in Missouri. So well known for the stacks of Home Pasallah Nights. I feel like it almost has agenda Jennifer. I love type of sound in a tuna comes to songwriting which is kind of at least. What was that song? I caught a really rarely strong start like song structure atmosphere. That's almost savage is interesting. Yeah we so you try to do our own thing. The influences were not scared. Like you see some people are scared. Sounds too much like this. Sounds too much like that like us. We try to. Yeah we do what we feel if it sounds like that. Then we'll change it if it's too similar but we won't order away to change a whole song because that's how we felt it in the beginning. It just so happened sounded on a little bit like this. Were never been issue a year on. Sounds like this sounds like that and he brought it up. I was like when we got in his. But it's none none of the same message kind of thing so it's GonNa Suva true but it's so hard not to be like 'cause you're listening so much during the day that little pieces of each Sean. Just come together and you start playing it thinking. Oh my God this is going to be a good song and the next thing you know. He's he's he's lying on like the song in. Its but still I feel like it's still has a little bit of like our own touching there so that's yeah that's different for them with influences right because you can catch tiny parts and pieces of songs but you're not really copying you're just mart of Marsov Marzipan on your fan of that music for reason that it sounds like that is just how things go year anybody tunes as well as you need those influences. He fresh ideas but also just to come up with new. Sounds like sounds cool and most of my songs come from China Mimika Song to cover it or something and something completely different happens. Were inspire new song or something. How is the so since you guys have like this? This isn't this is a more recent project residue. Oh so so. How is that process and getting used to actually being just friends but now you're actually making music onstage We're we're offering a relationship as well. Yeah I can but it's one of those things that you just never know because there's times you can and like so you guys are dating. Show me yeah. Yeah IT'S A. It's not a bumpy road but it's a winding any road is how I like to describe it. Well that's okay. She giving people think we probably just seeing all the time. It's like well no it's it is ah job so we'd like to keep the professionalism in it and sometimes it takes away from the relationship and where people yeah but we love it enough to keep it started out in an RV writing French songs. Now it's fans now just grew and what we have to starting out and we've been doing it for a while but it's like we should name this and marching in. Follow through with that. which you when you do pick up a Gig it's like it's not higher magnum You just something to be proud of. Yeah Yemen named enjoy yourself. It's not just you know you have something like even when we do the Telethon yours time folk unlike years before yours name invention and now that we don't ever names or anything but now we have something to call her band the size of armies super special for us to and you can make that separation to feel like when people say here's kind folk you can go on stage and beer sells individual without having to worry about. Oh I was just called Megan so now have to act like no way for zippered verse Super Real People appreciate that overrun ago. See kind folks. Okay Co Megan Image. Like we is over to call as Maynard midgets whatever but we're now notice kind as it do. 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Ourself so short war and he's so easy and fun to work with like when I'm in studio I feel like I'm a small and that's where the fun comes out but also means super serious but oh I don't even notice some things I'm doing in the studio in he'll sit there and laugh at me as like he's not like cake. Snap out of it. You literally like enjoys huguenots process with us you know. And he doesn't make it something that's like you feel shy to do. He really wants you. Feel super comfortable. He really wants you to feel like you're on musician. earmarked time her yet like yeah and he's proud to be a part of the project in proud to put his name on the air takes his time in mixes mazing. What's a stamp in very much? Appreciate what he does. Free local band around Wilson Brewer. He helps everybody as a big factor when it comes to recording getting If you get a producer it makes her Does it doesn't care about the result you it just you can hear it when you hear the the track. 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Blue Jays post draft party!!!

Jay Bird Watching

55:32 min | 1 year ago

Blue Jays post draft party!!!

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Recent recent wanting a number nine till. Yan, and in the midst of that obviously work number two. Point Fifteen playoff funny enough a guy that was grafted now. Oh sorry I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But. I just can't believe the amount of talent guys as far as homegrown guys. Move on from fairly quickly. BLUEJAYS. Here Rob Manfred. You had to throw a monkey there by saying. Because I was GONNA. I certainly don't. I I usually. Man I loved the mustache. You know and I love one box. Hero thing underneath. The always loves to cook those things that he justice and I remember. He wrote last year years ago. And Skilled. Still Plays Independent Ball. Like. Yeah. Translator I. Didn't like Travis. Nine. Actually Wasting. Baseball might not. An audience. Agreement the nickname. And we'll get. Traded away starting in September. He was like one of the biggest problems. I'm one of the biggest projects. I forget his name. He was like a big time. You're just a power hitter retreated. A movie ended up being nothing. He came back to the. Old! Yes. Yes. Wallison Center. People were waiting for that marriage to happen on the field. I remember we traded away wall. Over it's gone. It's done and so I think that was the beginning of the end for Travis Snider. House Anthony Ghosts. We got yes, too. Yeah, I. Did that wasn't a contention of the. Way, we treat it. We tweeted goes forward I thought. Travis. Yes. Could go to Detroit all was it goes came with laws or I think it. Oh, yeah, oh. Yeah years time. Yes yeah. So. Just to throw some of these other recent because I'm looking at this list. I just happened a stroll upon in the blue. Jays t first round history. Basically recently. Obviously, we have TJ Zoe. Jonathan, Harris Hopson this is. The. Going back. Further no win Marcus Stroman was first round Pick Morris. Tyler? Tech Wire not much love for. Some these guys. was, that one. Yeah? And stay. Opinions, mean He. Came up zero hot. Davis. And why it would never anything. Her blue tape, fans. It almost look John. went to the white saw that same like. Every. A little business. Purely as A. Hick Alex. RJ the. That same area you're talking about as far as guys guys. Going already was Jeff Hoffman Yeah. There's two players. More and it's convenient. They Fail Lopez will burn in the. Program billing concert in next one. She's outside. We had because. The goal. League nightrider! Whom are Rocker, is. Is One. or so. Backley what I was GONNA pay because. They! Had surprised. Some. Popping up. Hey Alex That means. Drafted assumed be world series champion. Take unfortunately. He had to go through yes. So, but fellas that was really good. As far as Blue Jays, history goes and Brandon I, don't think I. Did you mention your favorite guy that we drafted recently or the Travis Snider Pick. Yours was sorry drinking, yeah! I mean I I can't disagree with traffic. America probably the most likable guy on the list recently, but I guess just based off a result a Lotta Aaron hill the up there. Because you stood for quite a few years and I know it ended at a quarterly. Maybe not relationship wise, which is warmth, life and he didn't even get anything because be turned into Kelly Johnson. Saw, I'd probably go here and he'll go to hell. I'M GONNA. Go that one step further seen I. Feel like we're kind of going like this and time. Going backwards a little bit I'm GonNa say Sean Frickin Green Wow. Okay? How good he was, and the fact that we weren't really getting Goodra that many times that graphics were actually hitting in the late nineties. Therefore us, there was mostly of mostly guys we acquired right in. That was as far as I go. That was the one we needed it at that time in our franchise history and we hit him well. Might not have been his peak wiz bluejays career, but he did really really good for the Blue Jays there in the baton. Ivor six whole guys I think what happens is with us. For the most part. It was a good thirty three home run seasons in there and some decent batting averages so as stretches where we should have won more games. But I can't tend that on him. He was doing exactly what we need him to do. I might go a little bit where I'm pending a little bit more of this on Alex Gonzales, I probably should. And then. How many shortstops guys we had in the last decade. The Russ Adams of the world that never really paid out and know that we just missed with. Picking tried to Lewinsky in that same draft drafted Ricky Romero. Right! Yeah. He's still got him, but we had to give up a little bit more than we probably would have. But all reality that trade has worked out perfectly on all fronts, Detroit and all fronts. Early rockies. None of those guys really panned out and even jeff often be number. Nine overall pick recently has not done much and honestly guys I think he's GonNa end up in the bullpen for the rockies at some point. Matt Boyd really the only one that's worked out kind of nicely for the Tigers Batboy, dry? And he was the role of the dice candidate in that trade, which is even more fun. I remember watching him pitch in the minors and then watching pitch that first game for the Blue Jays, and he pitched the first three innings, really really strong and got lit up like a Christmas tree. Yeah! That was quite common. So but in all reality he's turned into the point where the Yankees apparently have been scouting him over the last year so I don't WanNa see it. But. Maybe we can hit them. We might know something. So, let's talk this draft. Guys because just to give if you haven't been paying attention to the Blue Jays, but major league. Baseball draft guys. There is I. Know You guys? Out there and twitter land there happened to be watching this live here. The Blue Jays allegedly won the draft. When was the last time we've heard that? I mean it's only five rounds. What is concentrated? Justify around. You can do some good things in the blue. Jays certainly did, but when most people make that claim on who won the draft is usually based off of their first few picks right? Yes, sure, yeah, fair, and not only the Blue Jays hit out of the Park I. Think with all five of these picks I think they actually brought in guys that can help the team sooner rather than later because it's all college talent. Which is where the whole draft steered, and all of you guys are paying much attention to that piece of it. But High School! Guys weren't being picked unless you were the next. bryce Harper Trout. I think Nick York the Red Sox drafted him seventeenth overall. Or fifteen or something that he was from Highschool I don't think he's going to sign. And Honestly, that was more or less. What guys were really dumbfounded with watching that first round. They were wondering if the. Red Sox threw away. Did they did yeah. I, don't how you can waste a pick. In a rebuilt like they're going to be in the L. at I, know they're not like what we are. Twenty sixteen was supposed to be. You're still going a But I don't know how you throw away taking draft when you have still obviously, you're not the Houston Astros where you don't have a pick, right? Twenty hundred twenty, nine on the recap post like all. That's why. Yes. It took me a minute to and I'm like Oh. That's right that you know. I still think that this whole thing of all of us. Having to be locked in her house is caused by the Astros. So. True. The given the circumstances of the whole draft I i. don't think it's. Out of the room possibility that a lot of teams are just like fucked s like I'm. We're out of our element that we can't concentrate this into just a couple rounds or whatever so just fuck this whatever I think. That's probably what the red sox did honestly. Is there other picks anything? That was too crazy either so it's almost like they're open. They don't sign to get the compensates. Picks next year, but there they're also in that mid tier purgatory that you were talking about Craig earlier. The Blue Jays rent so at that point. You're just throwing darts anyway. percent and you know I think the lack of a minor league season this year. Definitely sway people to stay away from the highschoolers. 'cause where you'RE GONNA put. If you have these, then you're not gonNA play Minor League Baseball. It's not happening this year and you may not. You definitely not make an active squad. James lucked out because Martin who it'd be part of the tax never know. Twenty twenty two. Yeah, Oh yeah for sure. He'll be here. Would not shock me so I guess we're GONNA use that as Brennan. Panic are segue points for the evening as we have drafted James Bond's car per Jesse Gobert Strassler. I mean Austin Martin. At, that might have been my favorite top the night on twitter, so shout out the Jesse. That was fun. Guys Villanova. Has Been One of the baseball schools in. To build interest sorry. Sorry Danny. Kyle lowry so. That's why. Why it's a mine at Work Banville end. You go all right so at least I'm I'm appeasing our fan base. S, corrupt spot on all. Vanderbilt is a perpetual were college world series candidate, if not the victor and knowing somebody's coming out of this program in diving, literally full-on headfirst into our system, as adamant pointed out, he could be here as soon as. Whenever how we start playing baseball and that might be just because the blue jays lack of depth in the outfield, more or less put him on par with everybody, and you know you catch fire in everybody's watching. Never know what's going to happen and everybody from Scouts on Austin. Martin has been saying his bat is ready. which is saying something when he just finished up a season with only metal bats? So I. Know the Metal Bats for college baseball pretty much. Weight wise, not anything crazy. It's not like they're playing with a negative twelve I didn't lily. That's not a toothpick made out Lumina. But fellas. Everything. I've been reading all the video. Everything points to Austin Barton being a good fixture as the middle part of our lineup is concerned, and that's saying a lot with our middle of our lineup looks like currently. Yeah Yeah, he's. Now only so they're projecting him to be like a third baseman type player. He's kind of a good utility player from what he's been doing in college like he's been playing more. Positions, but ever GonNa take him at third that sort of a blessing in disguise because come around twenty twenty two. I think that that's when we're going to give up on the body experiment at third, even though he's got a great arm sort of wild, and I don't know what position is going to be working out from long-term so if you get rid of Rowdy Liz and shift over Atlanta. To first base that Infield, right in Bischette a Craig and Vladi. That whole you know. Infield is just amazing and to think about that. That could happen. Come twenty twenty two home, and that gives me so much optimism. I love and. Even then if he put in there, what are you doing with? San Food because he got. Ready by twenty twenty three right like they're. They're loaded in the INFIELD. Me personally just from seeing the video is seen on Martin playing. Center Centerfield fell. Modestly kind of encouraged letting him play Centerfield okay, and seeing that he is the Kevin version of what can actually hit April right. And don't get me wrong. I love watching employer and his tenure as a blue Jay but enabling only. Just so spurts. And watching the tape on Martin. is a beautiful fluid swing. It looks like he hasn't tweaked thing in his whole college. Career is literally been the same swing per. It's natural so I see him having those kinds of spurts where you're kind of like going up and down all over the place and I think his legs are just good enough to let him play Centerfield at least to the point where he will. If you can get some good breaks on a ball. There you, go and worst case scenario. He slides into one of the corners spots, and you know maybe Randall Grischuk isn't here in two years or something like that and you put them in right. So? I would still love the fact that we would either get somebody else. Sokaiya takeover in Centerfield that actually does have the natural gift of speed to go with it, but I would not be shocked to see an outfield lived Martin centered on grit chickens. Gore Ingram. I can still be very happy. Yeah, yeah, I I. Don't know if this is a good cop. Because he is six feet tall, but just as approach at the play or a lot of two-day like he's very very aggressive, but that swing is so pure. To me, it's not as pure cabin. Cabinet has the best approach I've ever seen since creepy, but. He's just so aggressive and he's just got that confidence that I see from L. Tuba cheating aside. But I do want to bring up. I WANNA. Bring up another element though. Are you guys worried about the sign because he is a Boris. Client right? Is this like a thing still or do you think it's not an issue anymore? Alive thing I saw it. Value I believe is seven point, two MIL and I. If you guys don't follow me, said Mason mccray on daughter. I'm totally locked in on the prospect, said that it probably some point five, but they are developing that borsch relationship again with signing review, and he did have a lot of good things to say back in December at that press conference. I think butter for this next offseason. Tax Free Agent and and whatnot I think Boris will be working with a lot over the next. No I think the moon's align. Okay? Whatever Jason finally gone to that point where you, you know what we're not just rebuilding anymore. We are actually hoarding. It if they're going to be able to get somebody like Martin where that. He should never followed us. Every draft board had him go to three. Yes, either or the fact that he's still lingering around five and a lot of the guys on MLB network during the draft we're going. The Blue Jays has got the best guy. Yes, that's major league. Ready Ready to run into the you know. In the in the show, there's no way of just saying it any different. Everybody is in full agreements that we might have gotten the best pick number five. There was a debate among tigers twitter. You'll look at it and and other people that they could've taken Martensson Torkelsson best rhetorical. Some another Uber Prospect, but there is an equal case for Martin as well to be taken there. And he talked about being able to maybe plug and play him after drafting off. He's only a few months younger than Vladi and he's already up around the same as bill. Why not if he's polished enough? Right, now if I was starting to season, and you guys were given me in the if the Bazeley baseball rule roster, stuff was just enough different. I have a chance of winning fifty game season as a blue Jay fan right. Throw them in there. See what happens worst case scenario. He's learning from major league players in the season where there is no minor league baseball. So and I think that could be said for some of the other picks. We're GONNA talk about here shortly, but. I just don't see Martin, being shortstop like he was drafted. As we have much debts at shortstop I. Don't know how you guys feel about that. I wonder if he doesn't work out in the outfield. And he just turned into Stud and let's say he's up here maybe next year or two thousand, twenty, two in groceries, and still in the minors and the blue. Jays are kind of hovering around five hundred. Maybe the guys above I seriously wonder especially 'cause wealth. They got down on the system or Elvis Martinez is also third base source off as well right so. Report there, yeah, very young, but he's talented enough or you can come quickly. I think this pick maybe for me. At least pushes grow sense for there to the trade block where you need that last pick or higher now. No, no. We had back in February. Whatever where if you get the right guy? And only find groceries if the right guy especially now that you have Martin in there. And he laid the majority of his I'm at Third Base Vanderbilt, so it could work. Because I was gonna say I was going to say like if we have these positional players and we're using them. Pretty much capital to liquidate to get these. Top of the line front of the rotation aces that could be very beneficial, and those are the types of players that we kind of need like no disrespect to Ri-, he's The aced today, but sorry, really he. He's the today, but he's not like the ace of the future so if he can trade groceries for someone pretty young I think that can be beneficial, so I have an issue with that because we are. We have a lot of backlog when it comes to me, talent, yeah! which is crazy? Talk but I think this goes to an old saying that Russell Martin said when he was still in the club. You build a team up the Middle Catcher, second shore in Senator, and then obviously you need have plenty of arms in that situation and guys I think they've gotten to the point where they know they have enough arms coming, so that's why they went a little lower on some of these guys with the. I would say sure things with these other pitchers. Coming up on this draft lists that we're going to talk about your but Adam. If you started the season today is that Aset that we're all kind of dancing around for the future on your major league rosters. Start off the year. Nate. I still don't feel comfortable putting them in there like I know. I get the argument for it because short season and whatnot for the something about how the how prudent this front office has been, when it comes to their young talent, and you can call it service, time, manipulation, or whatnot. They seem to like maximize their potential in the minor leagues before. Before bringing them up for good reason, so if you, if you have the Pearson play I know there's no minor league system now, but if there's no season this year, and obviously he's not facing competition. If next year you start them in AAA and bring them up earlier earlier at that point than you anticipated this year so this year you say you. You were thinking bringing them up maybe July next year you bring them up in May just to see what's going on just to fiddle with it, but you gotta see what's going on because you cannot run the risk of throne scion there too early and killing his confidence. I don't see it happening but I. Just don't want to take the risk right now. With the season that we weren't really expected to really push for postseason, not that it was impossible, but it wasn't really too much on the table I. Don't want to risk that I'd rather go with the development than thrown to the wolves. Yeah so i. just think it's kind of interesting. We were talking about literally doing the opposite at. But yeah I mean he's got a of. College. I'm just thinking. Talking either way? Yeah, no doubt think it's hilarious that We. Know we have some pitching this year, so I can see completely reason to keep in nate pierce and ready to go eventually. Are outfield looks like Shit. Yes. I'm not saying anything against Gorell Hernandez and Grischuk, but the fact that one of them has not real really ran away with Centerfield jobs and we. We talked about maybe Garri I'll actually. Is that answer because the athletic like crazy, but I just can't believe guys that we haven't had somebody else hit hard and fall into place in that outfield outside career Al Really, Grischuk. I'm still waiting to see on because he's still strikes out so freaking much. So. I still think that one of them I. Think is our full time going forward, but if you you gotta have somebody like Martin or whoever Alford and company come up and do something to push one of those guys to that spot where they can focus on just they're hitting. I think we have better defensive options coming Martin included. Even Jonathan Daviss could that better defensive option than any of those guys? He Plays Center Martin play in right if Richard goes to the eighth sphere, the whatever they just rotate it all the time I don't know. If you started the season today, that would be who I would be taking. Place our field I'd be happy. I'd have Tasker D. H.. I would really think about it. Yeah I mean like they gave great. The money which means that there's more of a commitment there I think and. You know. I. I know I just for me. It's Tae. Oskar is more of a trade chip at one point, so he's kind of disposable and I'm not saying. I'm music place on this team, but I wouldn't really feel bad partying with them. I honestly have gotten off the Anthony Alfred Trade, not because I don't think that he deserves it. I just don't think this. This organization has any faith in them and they of demonstrated that so. Aubrey currently have on this show that he's GonNa come back as Tampa Bay rays. Yeah, yes, yes. It's one of two things. He's going to be a ray and crush or be Baltimore Oriole. Just fizzle out. It's one of. US Yeah. Yes, yes. Yes me so. On that note, Fellas, let's berry that and go to our second round. Pick and let's keep talking pitching as we have. Cj than like this kid had I is tenure as A. College Athlete is Crazy Two hundred twenty five strikeouts in a three point two one era. That is slightly not. How many innings he's has exactly, but he got his way into forty one games now is a sick number strikeouts I the innings cow. It's a hundred and six seventy six in two thirds. Oh well, it's only like what way, too many percentage points over. How many actually throw? Its season, too yeah. That's. That's really cool guys. I don't care. What if some people were thinking? This draft was the throw in. Fine with it, I'm glad that the bluejays attack this like it is still. Let's get who we can get. And with because you've got to think that you would hope that Martin signs no problem, then exc good, and you would hope he'd follow the same suit. I think the Blue Jays had the best bargaining chips in baseball trying to sign these guys Foale Times whether it's the Miley pay increases that they actually did over the last year and the fact that they are on the rise, there is a ton of talent in this system, and they have seen nothing but blue jays management. Move that along through the system. Right guy coming out of college or high school. Would you rather go to somewhere? That's actually gonNA. Utilize you in or trade you like some team like maybe like the Yankees would at this point in their. Pass Rebuilt. I would think you want to get a guy that's going to be running new. Right up to the show yeah! I think I think the stigma about being drafted by the only team in Canada. Is Pretty close to being over with with how good they are? How much buy in you have from guys like bill and and be Geo and everybody else, and even here sin right after Van I got drafted was tweeting Canadian flags. It'd be. Let's go blue Jays Canada all. It's so a lot of young guys really bought into playing for candidates team. Especially because they've all seen it in Seattle wherever they go now that the Blue Jays fan base I got reinvigorated by that twenty, fifteen and twenty. Twenty sixteen team and everybody in western Canada in central Canada or traveling to Minnesota wherever people talk like Holy Shit I'm not just playing for a city I play for an entire country where they will always be fans. Cheer for so I think the stigma is pretty close to being done and I was talking to a buddy of mine about that like think Martin will sign like I do. Because Bo was teammate back then, but I don't think there's a stigma around playing for. BLUEJAYS are being drafted by the. Same reason I think man Ike is GonNa WanNa jump right in that he sees that competition and he's like okay. I could be just as good as some of these guys. They're already bringing a lawn and I love watching Motion Khalas. It's ver- very very pure. Hitched to it so as far as repeatability goes. This kid's got it already. Let's get unpolished up and send them up to the show and get them in this ridiculous you know. Starting rotation. We're actually building. which was the last night? Off Guy that we brought up. To holiday the world, the Jimmy keys all at the Blue Jays. Tenure yet, but one guy that we brought up and everybody else. We just went out and picked from here and there and be able to bring him in and build that five in rotation. Everybody forgets that we had some really crummy rotations to start off those ninety two and ninety three world series campaigns, and yeah. You grab a guy like David Stewart all of a sudden. It's going to go well, right. How Fun would it beat? Actually see a rotation with Pearson Van Dyke and company just running through everybody in the American League. East fellas. Yeah, there's more path to success when it comes to being pitcher drafted by the Blue Jays van I I'd like I'm not sure that you're going to see him as quickly as you would. Morten, but I I do think maybe like twenty, three twenty four wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility and obviously Pearson you know, knock on desk ear, still going to be part of this team in hopes, yeah nothing. Happened in that regard, so if you can use that to bolster the rotation like admirals or element within to make us even more of a threat, because hopefully by then we're actually pushing for postseason I mean. That's what we pushed all the chips in on Vladi. Or keeping these guys, yes! I just love the fact that these guys law grown up together through this system, and they are having so much fun, and you can see it using from the dugout in the middle of the Games that they're having a good time playing baseball with each other and the the biggest thing for that team. Chemistry does push each other, or if you had somebody coming in on that, yes, it can be a little harder gel, but. There's something to be said about the fact that they are building this with so many guys that they're learning win. This is like the Oriole way back in the eighties, yes. You got now the Blue Jay nationwide and doing stuff. Brennan your piece I can see. The wheels turn. Your Radio thing all of a sudden. We also have a little bit boys because I've just thinking the one really big negative about having this law season. Is You know how signed all these rotation fillers like a roark and chase, Anderson and bring it back. Shoemaker wants to. Buy another year for this big collective pool of arms and Buffalo, and new, Hampshire to really start to stand out. And we were all thinking okay, so maybe by June will see Pearson come up and supplant an injured roark or an injured trace Anderson or very. Right. Whatever it may be and other guys like. Maybe he's like. It's up to some crazy starting buffalo and comes up and it's like alright. Later Trace Anderson not very good I don't know what you. Do going into twenty twenty one. If there's no Caesar right, because these guys who are going to be in the minors that. Are Missing an entire season. I know you have roark under contract for next year, and you could probably Chase Anderson, but you're just delaying the full the pitching prospects at the by another year where we're all talking, but they're going in spring training. It's like yeah. This year could be signed where they make that big jump and a lot of that would be because of the pitching side of things, and these guys establishing themselves, but now you're delaying yet another year going into twenty twenty one so. How that kind of plays into Van Dyke. Yeah Twenty Twenty four, twenty twenty-five, but just more in the immediate term trying to weed out those arms that have just come. Near the top like quadruple, A. Guys like pack in a Zoe whoever it just delays that BN hold another year right, which is unfortunate. So, Brandon I know you have a beer date I mean drinking day or I mean whatever it is you're going to do. So. I knew about the wander off, or you got a few more minutes. Otherwise. You're tonight miss. I'm I'M GONNA. Go with the panic car punchier at the end of the show here and you. Can his runway see when it goes? I mean the three four and five guys. We can sort of just kind of run through within the next five minutes. Yeah, let's do that and so three four guys got Trent Palmer. Got Nick. Frost, so I think. I'm not sure, and then we are last picked funny. Enough Fellas to close it out Zach Britton. Gifts by the same name. And I don't know if you saw my twitter tweet about the whole the orioles somebody was talking about the Orioles screwing up and not picking Martin and. I brought out. The Best Gift we've gotten from the Orioles sends leading your Baldo, in the. Wildcard! So, serendipitous is so great I. Love it so much, so the guy that should have been closing that game. His namesake gets. Drafted to close off our draft for twenty. To be. Still play at the Rogers hair like five six years in the blue jays accurate hit a home run into that bullpen where the orioles written got left by ten years ago. To Wildcard. Against the OREO. Four wildcard gave. Oh my God! Full Circle. Tears. Yes. Out of all of them I just. Kidding aside because of the namesake is fun, I just don't see Zach in having a path to a future here. I know he's like he's. He's a utility player, but being the last pick in the draft I'm not saying it was a throwaway by any means I'm sure blue did their research, but it just wouldn't surprise me if this one doesn't work out of out of the five that we drafted obviously the last one to me is the most likely to not pan our to not be part of the future. A lot of that's because some of this money is going to be going I think Phallus right. Have a strange feeling. You're going to have to sign Martin around or above slot. That's. Shirt, and you might have to go up slot Van Dyke to to get hip locked up so I think the last three picks. They made Trent Palmer everything. That I've already I. Fix Guy! To do that like Alec Granola Right. Now facing really stood out about Palmer throughout his tenure and Toronto as well. I actually don't really know anything about their fourth round pick. But for what I've read about. Palmer and Treselle and Britain or that they are safe. You might be able to get them for a lot so that they can pull that money to locking up like and Awesome Martin. Pretty good in the. League! Tree fifteen or three point one five era in six games. Bombers or Frozen. Play, the Cape Cod League really, so it looks like it says here a Cornell our friends over. Oh, why did yeah? Because YOU CAPE COD? We'd so. Is it very competitive minor? Leagues Year of College Stop I. Near it yeah, so now. We got our pulse from. That side of the. Border over on that end of the USO around the other border, our just below all dot, Niagara Falls and our token northerner. Yes. Otherwise this my I had a very different show. Lachey Brennan. Name. So but I. Think you guys the on that? We have after the first to save safe I think all three of those guys can play Major League Baseball, but it's going to be in a little bit more of a timely fashion and they wanted to make sure they hit it out the park with those first two picks. So and then like we've been talking about here the condensed wonderfulness of this weird draft. And the Blue Jays like I, said I think at least headed out of the park in many are very very happy and getting the raise that we've been getting people at ESPN for the Blue Jays actually quote unquote winning the draft is very very exciting. I can't recall them ever saying that. We've even taken solid picks right. Anything else. Yes I'M GONNA. Call chocolate. This went up in the W column. They're considered as the days continue into run away with the one of the best best minor league systems baseball. Only future's bright future is very bright. So Brennan I'm GonNa let you get whatever heck you off your chest exhibit. Spend your five minutes slow. Flexibility to get this done. I had no idea that this is on the table until twenty morning but no I mean. At this point, I don't know if we're GONNA, see any baseball in twenty twenty, which sucks but it. It was very nice to see blue jays twitter come together for the draft and I. Kinda got me reinvigorated a little bit because you know I'm seeing soccer coming back next week and basketball looks like they're coming back. I know. They got some hiccups there that they're working through right now. Hockey's GONNA face three of their return. The play and I was just Kinda like. pissing me off him. Be like get something done so that you can come back like you're my favorite sport football together and. I hope that they can play or something I would hope for around eighty two or eighty eighty one right around half a season. Anything less would be a little bit of a disappointment, but. It doesn't seem like it, but it was nice to see how much fun legit twitter had yet again for the draft and the fact that got us stud who could be up as soon as next year twenty two and contribute immediately. Yeah, it's very very encouraging stuff. I'M YOU WANNA? Keep chatting, or while we say goodbye to our other friend here. We want you or somebody in this to be able to go enjoy a real Friday. Night out, so we're GONNA make sure we that prompt point. Where we got the old kit, all people with kids and shit here Show. Although it. Later. But Let's go James. So but yeah. I. Really Don't know what else to say. I really do not think that. This blue Jays team has done anything but put together the most ridiculous filing system that they possibly could and I think this is the real combination of the many conversations. You and I Adam had about how the rebuild is. Really on this kind of front the whole time for this current management team. Yeah, yeah, I think that you know this buildup up until this point and you know when it comes to minorly talent. You can't really knock or even. Trading for young talent. You can't really knock with this. Front office has built right and I know like there have been a lot of growing pains and I know they're for bluejays fans. Since obviously not two thousand sixteen, but seventeen, thousand nine hundred and have been really pretty to watch, but it looks. Round traffic. Yeah, that's what I'm saying like it. All leads up to that leads up to moments into opportunities like this, and when it comes to more and like you just never know and like you said. No one thought this was going to happen right? No one thought that he was going to fall to five and he did. And that's what I'm saying. You never know and when you had that kind of pure talent I'm not saying this is like Bryce Harper level might be i. don't think it. Could be. Yeah, he's there is nobody saying that he's anything short of a major leaguer. Right? That is point one way or the other. You have a stand out guy. He might make it to be. You're superstar like some people are projecting him to be, but this is an everyday player that we're going to have in our system for a lawns is. The biggest thing I think is we know is basking to carry us where he's going to fit in on the diamond itself, I think Adam, and then we run away with us. That's what I'm saying like it's it's June twelve, two thousand and twenty Mark My words by twenty twenty five. He's going to be on the Canadian colliver of MLB. The show you more Oh. There's the bold prediction. By twenty twenty five watch stamped it. Seal it is. It's an audio so you? Take through the Archives of Jaybird watching find this episode. That guy haven't played the lottery sometimes. I made some really good calls on that kind of thing over the year, but I don't WanNa, take credit for one of them right now. I said Never Roberto assume it was gonNA. Come up right after mark. Stroman got hurt and spring training. And I said he was going to run away with a jaw. Which means that it did yeah. I was right about that, but I didn't think about how bad of a person and other things that are. Filled in. Reality you might be a good person that one incident, but as far as it goes I'm not gonna be doing that, and then I actually called in the beginning of the season that I said you'd be dumped Jose Reyes. Dolinsky Jala matters as and guess what happens before the end of the season was nuts. They might not have the best career Blue Jay, but he was better than Jose. Reyes. Yes, yes. During that season I would like to go back and watch two thousand fifteen highlights and see how many ground balls went through raises likes. Gone it was gone. Yeah, it was I. Mean I know that was a as favorite player? That's why he wanted to trade for him so bad. It was a difficult trade. Him Away was days learned a little bit more than that since I think Oh. Yeah, at Baltimore are the Atlanta Braves team is looking rather ridiculous. And but I just think shocked me. I think the most about it is. They were dumping that dictate Dasa salary right, but you only have one more real res One more season, or that's season of. Race left. How different would have our lineup walk in two thousand fifteen? If you take eaten that money because you're taking on so much toy to Lewinsky anyways. In slid Jose Ramos over the second base. Instead of Ryan goings right because. What do you think we would have been that much better offensively still have been somebody like Jose Raza's threatened lineup or not no I. Don't think so. I, think is better offense of days. Where behind them? It was just a matter of time before we pulled a hamstring. Anyway, so there is that point, so you're saying one way or the other retail season when ride God's. Ryan goes. It's just one of those situations as far as I couldn't help, but you know think about it after. I. But Anyway Adams or anything else. You would like to hit on the head here with a nail. Really quick before we Wrap up this wonderful. Another beer watching Friday sewed and go from there now. The only thing that I thought was kind of ironic about the Martin pick. IS THAT THE CLEVELAND? Indians drafted him in two thousand seventeen and you decide to go to vanderbilt, so I just thought again I mean. The mets strap to once to or looking at Van Dyke. Maybe I. I think it was because I know the Indian draft them in Seventeen in obviously Shah Atkinson Shapiro warrant part of the regime then, but it's just funny. How another Cleveland Indian esque player finds his way back into our system which? was drafted as high schooler. Seventeen by the mets nineteenth. Round pick. I think he's included, improved his stock, just touch sunset. But it's going to be very exciting to see somebody like him. Even in this lineup because ninety one ninety five Carey's pretty well all day every day. It got the crazy stuff like I've been hearing as far as his speed goes. Is a guy that was making some of those other college. Hitters look really really bad a competitive division. So? It's going to be very interesting to see where these guys go then I. is just something crazy? Right out of Florida, state so. It's going to be I. I just I hope they sign all five of these guys 'cause I really don't see any of them missing, but I think that what we were doing. They're as balanced checkbook with those last three picks. They could. There was some guys on the board, but well quote unquote better guys on the board, but I think they hit it out of the park with this draft in the Blue Jays are set up for nothing but success here continually. You know. The minor league system might be shrinking after the season, but we're moving right along, and we're going to keep the talent crazy rich throughout the system and that pipeline they've been hoping to build is. Might be bursting at this point. A little bit, but the thing is is that when you had this young talent on the major league roster? Theoretically you're having them for a good six seven years anyway, and if you have them for a good six seven years, that's plenty of time to rebuild the system. They've done it in what four five anyway, so we're in good shape. So, yeah. Really really good though. And I think it's hilarious Brennan's. Nailing us on twitter right now. What did you say he's saying? 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Jason Motte on Arenado, Yadi, Baseball and Gehman on Golf Bets: The Chris Hrabe Show Ep. 81

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Jason Motte on Arenado, Yadi, Baseball and Gehman on Golf Bets: The Chris Hrabe Show Ep. 81

"The wednesday edition of the chris ratio on scoops. Danny mac dot com. It is wednesday february third. Twenty twenty one here. Having a great day where every guar yesterday the cardinals introducing nolan aeronautical in zoom conference with the media. So we're gonna talk more baseball more cardinals today as the eight time gold glove award winner. We'll be playing at busch stadium. We shared some of the comments made by nolan yesterday today. We'll hear from one of his former teammates. His former cardinal world series champion. Jason much joins me coming up in just a few chat with jason about nolan aeronautical planning colorado with him and out. What's going on with the foundation. And more so jason motte coming up in just a few minutes also from rick run good dot com going to be with me. Regaining will help us fill out our. Dfs are one and done. Are betting cards. Before the waste management this weekend in phoenix. And that's really. I think the event in all of sports including the four major sports where you can say. Make the biggest difference not having. They're they're going to have a small group of offense. I guess on the sixteenth. Rick is going to tell us about that but you know i have been to that event and that weekend in scottsdale area and it is just incredible absolutely mind blowing. You can't really describe a picture it or do it anywhere. Close to justice. Unless you're actually able to be there so hopefully very soon folks will get to be back at the sixteenth waste management. Enjoying one of the most is. I think to this point in my life unique experiences and unique days in all sports. So we'll talk some golf game coming up. But let's give our buddy jason motta call of course world series champion with the cardinals now. Baseball coach in memphis and philanthropist. Who does so much through. The jason motte foundation. The cake cancer shirts our just the beginning. Jason motte foundation dot org. I have to say. Don't worry i won't. I won't spill the beans on any of the 'sensitive state secret information but gotta respect a man. Who's still going yahoo. Email address in twenty twenty. And every time. I've emailed you one of these zoom links over the because i would have never e mailed you probably much before but I always just kind of solidarity and it's something about baseball. My because a lot of baseball writers still have the old. Aol just in to your your yahoo email. you know. i'm just a very simple person you know i. It's always ain't broke. It's always asked me fallen upgrade. And i'm like i'm good. I don't i don't need upgrading. i decide. I'm you know i'm not crazy. Emailer orlando right that so when i do get them like. Oh yeah. I've had it forever and who know me know it and it's you know it is what it is so that fits those kind of your philosophy like i'm just going to kind of throw it and hopefully they don't hit it and if that's the one we get out. Yeah yeah well you know. I think simple is Is best in in these times. But i appreciate you joining me man like i remember last year talking with you at an event or on a caravan a bunch of us talking just bs in and you know we're asking you about all the guys you've played with and some of the other guys that we're with you know you guys were talking about guys that you know guys that you've played with and you spent obviously time in colorado and plane with nolan aaronow in twenty sixteen and i remember you telling an anecdote about how he kind of you know. Obviously he was knowing air not only twenty sixteen but still kind of catching you off guard and in spring. Training was it. Yeah yes free training. Yeah yeah i just signed there in sixteen And it was one of the first spring training games in india like being in the central guys in the west. You play against them. You know comes a year you know there may be a play. Doesn't play in the you see things on. Espn guys got some. You know a thousand gold gloves in platinum cloud in every other glove award can get But it was listed as one of the first couple of games in spring training ball. Hit down third base line. He just very nonchalantly nonchalantly handed out of all out wreck but he just takes double stamps. Backhands takes more staff and literally looks like threw the ball like underneath his his glove arm and it just was like a strike right to first base and i was sitting in the dugout. Was like what in you outside in. They're like they're like that was like nothing. That was nothing else like. This is like literally like day one of spring training and he in that guy's doing that just shows what or amazing athlete he is and what a great defensive surveys in. He isn't and stuff like that but also a cow. Hard of the guy work. Do you know what i mean. I said one of one of the first game spring training and he was he was right there. Ready to go almost midseason form. You know he's one of the workers. I've seen you know going out there being able to do that. Day one It was it was pretty darn impressive. He just did it with with ease. seen over. They're playing defense during the year. He doesn't stop meal Wow you know so. I was able to watch that for the year in colorado And then now. Arnold fans going to be able to see that on on a daily basis senate is pretty pretty awesome pretty. It'd be pretty fun to watch. I think i heard Holiday may be say that he's he's a guy or not always that just lives sleeps breathes baseball. What delineates are what differentiate. Someone who really does eat sleep. Breathe baseball do you agree with matt's sentiment No one in that regard. I yeah i mean you know he. He was one of those guys like. I said i was able to play in saint louis with some pretty good baseball a lot of good players. You know so. Like i. I got to play with you know the chris. Carpenter's the molina's the closes the carpet unite wainwright These guys go out there and they are not only good baseball players but it would really hardworking guys in. They were up their game out there working hard to get better because they were never satisfied. That was one of the things that i i saw. You know with nolan being. You know he was you that point. I'm not sure how many gold gloves or that he had but he was never satisfied with. Okay added did that. He was always trying to get better. Always trying to work on stuff in the age. Working on a swing. You'll notice looking at numbers trying to figure stuff out You don't i think that's that's the game of baseball. You know you're you're always trying to get better. You're always trying to get an edge on on the next person you know because the each year like you know. Someone's gonna try to make an adjustment on you so you've got to be ready to get out there and counter whatever they're gonna do you and you know it's not one of those games you can just stay right where you are. You've got to constantly be evolving and use one of those guys that that that does at and You know he's he's pretty remarkable. So it's it's pretty awesome I said he's he's now in saint louis Happy to see him here or there. Or wherever. I'm not there or i'm here but You know just you know. I it'll be good. Nothing fans are really really going to enjoy chasing as a pitcher. What does it mean to you. Know see and and i guess as anyone but as a pitcher specifically that position third base when you have a guy and in a park like that where the ball can do weird stuff but but wherever to have a guy like that defensively at that position how do you relate that or how do you describe the impact that guy can have not that the second baseman or you know. The cardinals have great defensive players On the infield but that position specifically and it's important you know what. I mean it as well as you know it. It's kind of a. I don't wanna say relief where you can kinda like you know. Take your breath because you know that you know the people behind you and your You got you got you got this behind you write that but knowing that is there a ball hit down you know a make pitch guide turns on it. It's you know. Oh that hit he. Just there makes the play guy gets jammed as one of those slow rollers. And it's like okay. You know you just kind of gives you that light that that comfortable okay haley. He's gonna make the play and he's gonna throw it right on the money And you kinda kinda let you breathe out there a little bit and just let you go out there and doing what you're capable doing. Which what we're all trying to do we're out. There is making pitch. Do what we're supposed to do you know if when the guy does hit it You know you have the faith in the. I guess the eight other guys seven other guys not coming out there to go out there Do what they do and You know just kind of puts you at ease out there. Do you think that they're going to be out there on time in about a month. I mean it's crazy man just as a as a baseball fan. It's hard to not pay attention to every single detail of what's going on and outside of the cardinals and the padres and maybe the mets all making some some big time trades to acquire players. A lot of the focus around the industry in the storylines have been like man. I just i hope they play. Yeah i i hope they do. Hope everything is Is on time on schedule online. Oh the players probably ready to get back to normalcy. I know here in memphis i know. We're kinda sorta trying to get back to some normal stuff But things are still a little bit different. You know between the mask and the protocol and you have to do some of that. So i know that everyone that that's doing what they're doing is trying to hopefully do it in the in a safe manner To to make sure everyone is safe doing what it is they love to do for you. Know for guys playing Playing the game. Hopefully they're they're doing with that in mind but you know. I really hope that the guys do get back on time and Back on schedule. Because i know very routine oriented Folks you know yeah going out there. It's like hey. I got this okay. I've got a month unguided. S i gotta throw. I gotta do this stuff you know kinda set and you're you get everything in order for. Okay hey you know. Spring training in twelve days. Thirteen days. Okay after my bullpen. I've done a hitting. I'm doing this this workout. You kind of get everything. Set up ready to go for that and yes sometimes you know there are some things stone your way that you gotta you gotta just to obviously but i think Last season was was obviously different for everybody. Last year was different for everybody Given everything that was going on so you know hopefully get going on time and everything can run safely and smoothly and would be hopefully give back this somewhat business as usual. No football played basketball playing You know so. Hopefully baseball down. And kind of jennifer's himself out because that'd be that'd be fun to watch you make a really good point like the thing that fans don't take into consideration. Is that you know. When news comes out on february first that the owners would like to push the season back a month and would like to change this and that like give us an idea. How far into your routine and i'm not saying how close to being ready. Would you be but how far into your routine would. Would you be at this point right now. In february second and how drastic of of a change just just physically and considering the the health and the durability of everyone involved would would doing something like that at this point. I think that I i'd probably be pretty close. I know like like early on around around this time i was you know and you wouldn't have a roadmap for for pushing it back a month because no one would have done that right right exactly but i know early on in my career like you know about this. I was down in florida or arizona like that to go down there. Don't bullpens already pretty pretty far along in my throwing stuff like that. Because then gains spring training games would have started in about a month so i go down there for about two weeks beforehand. Do my two weeks worth of stuff and then be ready to go for the games. And i was one of those guys. I didn't have You know. Seventeen pitches that i can go out there and choose from day one and day. Hey i'm just gonna tell my earth is gonna be the year you know like goddamn told my career ball today kind of get out of some jams. It's like well out there who are gonna be ready to hit in. If you know if my fastballs you know for me eighty seven not gonna be a very good day. You know so. I'd better go out there and be ready to go so around. This analysis i was. I was pretty geared up on you guys last year you saw they were down there radio and they gotta go home and do their own thing and silt on. That was different for a lot of got a strong forgot. Okay how much do i throw. What do i do thrown into this net. Okay but i i this this is all i have right now about myself in you know wherever i am at home But i've gotta get something out of it so You know except for it is a game of adjustments. You guys are making adjustments every year whether it's trying to get better or trying whatever but you know just one of those things that you guys are gonna kinda canada enough to stay on their toes but also be ready to go Like i said if things are ready to go on schedule because you know you you don't wanna go down there and not be prepared and then you go down Gotta throw you gotta hit. You got this that and the other than you getting hurt because You prepare you know. I mean i think a lot of guys you know in in at that level You know not that we own prepare but I think guys try to go out there and make sure that they are prepared. So things don't get kinda thrown at them So they're not ready to tackle whatever it is comes To him so exit. Hopefully everything goes goes normal But but we'll see how everything goes would safety in daunton this nat- so we'll we'll see. Yeah like with with yati right. Like what's up with him as he prepared. What's going on if you've been texted me on breaks news here for us. i mean. hey. Man i've seen yanni's down in the Plain in the caribbean series gets carlos mean. They're having any fun down there I mean plenty. I pissed you know couple of weeks ago. He's he does notable People out you know. So i mean you know like the us on their playing in the caribbean series Yati does and that's what there play baseball and beat pretty good. It's one of the instances where i think people finally maybe people outside of saint. Louis get to appreciate what a good athlete all you guys are. And what a good athlete he is like. I see you guys like especially you know not to pick on you and mcclellan but you guys are hitting bombs fantasy camp and stuff like it's nothing and you know it's like oh yeah you have to remember that these guys are all like the best players on every team they ever played on and they got to the big leagues in yachties. Like yeah of course he can pitch. Why wouldn't he be able to. He's not he's not an orthodontist from collier. Ville like that goes to fancy camping. Out of your molina mean. I'd be able to hit ninety seven. You hit bombs baby. Throwing throwing you know like i but i you know i. I've pitched for reason. You know i mean. I was a catcher my whole career that in a buck eighty in the minor leagues people were throwing. You know ninety seven with saints with ninety nine hour cutter sliders that kinda got me but up to that point they examine. I played high. School ball ball is obviously. I think i could do a little something in the big leagues up a bunch of kids here. I help out a high school here in memphis. Yeah what's going on chessman guys get ready to go. Yeah we're we're we're we get into the boys that's all bullpens Doing doing stuff like that route their days a week. Just kinda you know so much. We can do hands on hands on we kinda They can throw and and work out and do their selves. We can make sure they. They're throwing in whatever but we can't really do much instruction right now because of the eight can't do this this or trying to make sure guys arms ready to go. We start practice here Actually february fifteenth fish. Sixteen some like the first day of practice have valentine's hangover. That's right you know. Hopefully we love hanging out of a regular regular season. Yeah as well. We're only play eight games last year but You know spin out then kinda crazy. We're doing that. My wife's coaching a high school basketball here so they they've got a game. Tonight's around doing stuff like that. The kids have iceman music. Dance and theatre and basketball. So we're just we're just running around this live life joining Tell me what's going on with the foundation man. Because i know that for everyone and and we've talked about it before and kyle has been on. We talked about it with both guys. I know that it's been a really tough year and you know it it. It's so brutal to think about you. For example everyone who does so much so much and does so much all year long and then you know you're not able to help perhaps as many people or do the things that you initially thought you're still coming up with ways to continue to make a difference the jason foundation so so give folks and idea of what you guys are up to right now and hopefully like you said as we continue to move forward. What's going to be going on in saint louis coming up where people can come out and hang out and hopefully say hello. Yeah it was definitely a crazy year. Last year we had to cancel our our saint louis event Which was you know. Our biggest event that that we do cancel memphis in here Because of all the code stuff and everything just trying to make sure that everybody stays But even with all that being said i try to do. A couple of things differ merchandise stuff on our on our site. We did a couple of virtual run walk stuff like that to try to get things out there but you know things that You know even though everything's all with lockdowns in covert and where mass that you know. It didn't really You know cancer didn't really stop Affecting people You know what i mean. It didn't go okay. Hey let's cancer it and say. Hey let's let's loss. It was still doing what it what it what it was doing. You know so we we continue to do whatever was that we could do to help those in the fight So our mission. Our mission didn't change. Our mission was the exact same. We find ways to do some stuff but Number change our mission of helping those in the fight and let them know that they're not doing it alone on coming up this year. We have our saint. Louis events scheduled for may seventeenth in saint louis You know hoping everything is good and go for that. But we're doing that may seventeenth We're gonna be are bent down here. Memphis november. October ish of trying to figure out of date right. There are right now for that of you know. Just just continue to do what it is. We do in trying to help. Those in the fight said answered it. You know Just go away. You know it's so there are still fighting so we want to continue doing what it is we do. And that's helping those in the fight here. You can go to the website. Jason foundation dot org jason motte foundation dot org and again if you could help if you can re tweet if you can do anything it's all Or find that it's all it's all helpful while we go through all of this just garbage. I hope is over very soon. All right. i leave you with this. I remember my parents. Chicago got boxes and boxes of cards old cards. I pick one. Let's see and he's kind of newish. Pick one you're telling me if you've ever faced this guy or impressions of this guy and get one that i think you've ooh. This is a good one. Jose reyes raise your best. Your best battle against jose reyes I i look at a lot again. I'm not a lot. But i i remember facing him but he was one of those guys. He did He did try to do too much the plate and it was kind of annoying. You go up there and ahead you know a pitch and a half on a good day sales up their fire in heaters you know he just like you know foul heater off just like stole the bat at one on my dog and you know so i just remember facing him in He wasn't one of those guys that you could just sit there. And i guess overpower using guys. He wasn't I wasn't trying to outflank guys or like. Hey i didn't have six pitches for him. So he he just sit there and dissuade fouling. Off too close in your. I remember exactly what he did against me. Every single sign. But i always knew that you guys guys like that is put those combat together. I was always like alright. It's going to be a grind. Try though that cutter there. He'd like take it in the or he just ballot off down. The first baseline agrees manslaughter. go you know point after you know six seven eight pitch back like just go to i just you know Grunted on a couple. Fastballs tried to throw the nastiest cutter guy. Like i'm gonna down the next three days and do something. I'm not sure if i was ever down sometimes. Sometimes we didn't know what you're supposed to be up ya. I lift my arm. We're good we're good a place you're taking a day every now and then but that wasn't really my in my arsenals county. Let's go. let's let's let's run back out again so let me pick one more hang on. Let's see oh. I bet you had some battles with derek d. lee directly faced in on win. Yeah i don't really remember anything big at. I think that was kind of like early. And i to get some better. Get some better Those on my career. I remember i thought that was all a blur. I was just happy to be the big leagues of. I don't know what's going on baseball's in trying to figure it out. Oh here's okay last one. Here's a cub that you were teammates with and also have played against a what's speaking of pest in a different way. What's it like the pitch to anthony. Rizzo oh yeah he. Yeah he speaking of another guy. It is great stuff for cancer. A guy like him he had cancer and beat it and he still goes out and does i mean he goes out does amazing. He's hillary's every day it's unbelievable but stood over the top of the damn plate like all the plate like sand. i should say stands. Yes still does it so you. You're y thank ana. I'm going to get this pitch in their an ego to get it in there and the next thing you know he's you know he either takes it for all or you know he. He knows you're gonna do it so it clears that front side and smashes into the like. Oh he's open way you know so then you try to go back away. Then he's sitting there looking at that you know he he's he's guys It's come too far in hilda's get hit by a pitch in walk the line you know. He's one of those guys on. The clay are is on the plate. And he's he's a you know three or four hundred for those guys. He's he's a really good bigly hitter. he's definitely a tough out so end with him standing on the plate like it kinda it kinda messes with two up there. Could you see him just you know. He's he's not a small guy big dude if he's on the plate so i kinda you know there's there's multiple ways The as those guys you know some people think oh. Hey he's on the plate. So hey i i can get him in. You know some of those guys you know they. They cheat inside and they're ready for that pitch way. The ball away. Looks like it's right down the middle you know so then you're like oh hey you know you can't go too far away 'cause you know he's he's really good at knowing his strike zone so you go you know of all half the plate. He knows that's so he'll take it so you can't he kinda makes you come to him or he'll just take walks You know So he was definitely Thinking back on people who faced a tough time with a lot of people That was a battle. Uh so is that a pretty good run now. i think we'll have to do a segment later this year. Where you pick like three or four guys that were just the most annoying and then we like com up and confront them about how Our knowing they were like how'd you like I loved it it was. I crushed everything he threw. You only threw one pitch But yeah it was. Yeah like i said I feel like. I must have a must have had a lot of battles with a lot of people because Yeah i i. Just i just think of all the ways that i couldn't have gotten them out and just say grab the ball through it in and hope that it that it went well for me keep hanging in there man in the Seemingly balmy memphis weather compared to a lot of the country and and seriously Stay locked in on jason my foundation. 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Yeah so good to talk to you. Chris a youtube. Yeah it is just i mean. It's just amazing content right. It's amazing. What these i mean. Patrick reed who is one of the best players on the face of the earth does not care what anybody thinks about him for probably finds a way to improve his lot like who knows what actually happened there but obviously there's so much history there's so much That he doesn't care about and when and when pe- when the temperature gets ratcheted up That's when he's at his best and he just goes back against the wall the reads against the world and he finds a way to win a golf tournament by five shots at one of the most difficult courses. It's it's unbelievable. Chris really is yeah. He's so good in the international play. And i just will never get tired of watching highlights from his match against rory when they were going at it with the crowd and doing the finger wags in. Yeah it really is becoming kind of a power couple and you know they have to know like as just been kind of popped by the internet sleuths a couple of times like it's clearly her tweeting from this burner like they have to know that people know and maybe they are almost leaning into it. Because like you said they don't care. I could see the reads cooking up something diabolical like that for sure. I mean you know i. There's there's a lot of layers about this. But yeah i mean we've been on this we've been on this this burner account for months and it's been just kind of widely accepted that it that it is just in riga people the quick background about the beautiful beautiful machine. That used golf. Facts is if they're not familiar it. Yeah i mean it's unbelievable. I mean it tweets first of all it is. It is almost exclusively pro. Patrick reed and will anything that you can say about. Any other player gets torn down. I mean it. It degrades justin. Thomas often if it degrades the pga tour it will and aggressively and one of my favorite things ever is. There was rant from that account for not enough left pin locations. So think about that. Because patrick reed did another sport of that of that complaint. Yeah so patrick reed. It's a it's a right to left draw so it's easier for him to get to left pit locations. This account has a huge issue with not enough left ten locations almost to the point of thinking. It's a conspiracy. So so yeah we've been. We've been on this for a couple of months. Because i believe it's also tweeted while he's playing so we're we'll probably not him. It's gotta be just fine and then of course. Yeah i mean patrick reed tweets out at rory mcilroy from the official account the same kind of stuff that that this bird or account was tweeting and crazy to bring it back chris like that. That's tweet for patrick. Reed has not been deleted like great brazi. It's absolutely crazy that it still exists. Because yeah because i don't think they care patrick reed on the course as you mentioned is just unbelievable. And you know. He's one of the guys like i always know when i have some sort of patrick reed involvement. And it's you know at certain points been every single week You know in the first round. He's gonna shoot like to under but he's going to have like three bogeys and you know that at some point he might make like two or three forty footers and like a four whole span. It's just it's unbelievable. And i wonder if like part of me thinks well if he just got rid of some of that inconsistency but the other part of me thinks that inconsistency is part of what what makes him great. He doesn't care he takes risks. He goes after it and phenomenal player. I think he could make the argument. That and certainly in terms of results over the last couple of years. He's like a top five six player in the world. He's not priced like it. Yeah and he and he is. 'cause people had eight and you look at the exactly right. I mean you look at the resume. I mean he's got multiple. Wgc wins has multiple playoff. Wins he has the tournament of champions. Yeah he's got a masters. I think i heard you guys talk about that on first cutlass your and you were running through kind of. Yeah patrick reed is a big game hunter. That's right that's right. It's pretty crazy what he's what he's able to accomplish and i agree. I think that inconsistency actually helps him because he gets on these just towards stretches of golf where he looks unstoppable and chris what was pure say about him and when you talk about the gulf game the golf game specifically i think it was brooks kept because quote. He said he's the best short game in the world. And when you start having your peers talk about your golf game like that It's obviously very impressive. Now they start talking about other things and it's a different story but the the game on the courses unbelievable so who is the equivalent in another sport only to continue to think about that or tweet us in. Is there like a first couple. A husband wife that's like like villainous. I guess because if it's a husband wife it's always portrayed in a very very positive light right like we're not talking like mr smith so all right i'll have to think of that and if we come up it's almost it's almost it's almost just like we're just gonna come in. We're gonna rob out so by the end of this episode. We're both going to need to Submit submitter idea. So patrick reed. Okay is a winner and just in read and patrick reed more impressive than anything else. Do not care about anyone's reaction. I care a lot that there won't be fans at the waste management. I was there a couple of years ago. One of the most incredible not just sports but experiences that i've had was being a part of Of the just the nonsense. That is the waste management This is a tournament. That i think will really kind of and i wanna say test rick but this is one that outside of the rowdy fans and all of us. Drink it on sixteen This is a tournament that is such a connection to the community raises so much money. And it's just kind of a drag that you know that's not a part of it obviously loved that that golf is is moving forward the way that it is. But i think we'll start to see in some of these tournaments especially as this becomes more than norm or maybe pushing the anticipated date to return to normalcy back. I think we'll start to see some of these tournaments maybe impacted a bit. I'm interested to watch what happens this weekend since they had a full stadium there last year. Yeah it's going to be a bit jarring. I think this week more than many weeks. It's been weird but you haven't really noticed that not always that they still build today building infrastructure. Still there were hoping well well that and and they still create the stadium atmosphere. What basically had is potala. It's like the top row. They don't have the bleachers. That go all the way down towards the green. You can't get as many people in there but there will be people there maybe a thousand or two at that whole. I think they're letting five thousand in total but this will be the one you notice the most because it's going to be as rock as it's it'll still be it'll still be interesting because the infrastructure and stuff like that but going from you know i think the records two hundred and eighteen thousand people in a single day which is absolutely bonkers too. I think letting five thousand in is it. It's going to be pretty pretty jarring when we get to some of these iconic goals. How about the course and again of course with a lot of iconic. Kohl's what do you like about About stadium and what is the type of game. The type of player that generally has success there outside of rickie fowler and his number every year. Yeah it's seriously it's it's a fair course and we see the winning score often just kind of in that like fifteen sixteen seventeen under range so place fairly consistently what i like about it. Is the home stretch. You know fifteen five. Sixteen the stadium par three seventeenth at driveable. Par four the water down the left and the eighth grade closing hall. So i mean you get fireworks you get guys who can go really low at the end but but for this we guys that and not really this week. Historically guys that have had success are ball-striker. So chris you probably know this i i run all the stats for every single player at every single course and i try to find trends and i try to see what's important where and strokes gained approach which to me is the most important style on the pga tour Historically has been more important at tpc scottsdale than any other course on the pg never of guessed it yeah and you look at some of the winners right and you think okay. Wow webb simpson had decky matsuyama twice rickie. Fowler gary woodland's the years they want it just absolute elite ball striking and the guys who have even come close. Justin thomas back-back thirds. I mean he's the best player in the world so it kind of passes the sniff test as well. Yeah elite collapsed by tony now Last year s webb simpson drains some som absolute bombs. So let's talk about the field. And then i do wanna talk about the euro or just because of the field over there For a couple of minutes but you know when you look at the prices and when you look at who's playing. I like the top of the board in that. We've got some big names. But not necessarily because i'm locked in on any of those big names. Rick you talk all the time about taking advantage of public perception. How do you take advantage of a essentially split field. I i guess the euro field is stronger right. So how do you take advantage of having some of the big boys here. It's not like a one off event but also maybe having some depth there may be having some players that will be overlooked Does that change your strategy in terms of Maybe distribution When it when it comes to the draft kings prices. Yes certainly certainly gonna keep my finger on the pulse of what i think. The public sentiment is and how that's going to translate into ownership and and some of the things that can that can drive upward down. Ownership is whether or not golfers played recently so justin. Thomas has played recently but he played in the middle east and he missed the cut. So like if you haven't been paying attention the pga tour. You haven't seen justin thomas since the tournament of champions. Now he's gonna come back. He's going to make his return here in the states. And and and he's got those back back. Their place benches that i mentioned but like someone like a webb simpson. You know the the thing with web. He's in this. What i call sandwich pricing. Which is he's ten thousand. One hundred dollars draft kings and you can have any study you'll want above him and then if you go down a little bit you can get a decky. Matsuyama who's got the greatest course. History ever here you can get daniel. Berger who's popular golfer. So it's just like he's just stuck in this pricing where people are going to opt to go in one direction or another. I think he comes in overlooked. And i think that's big time mistake. I think he defends his crown. I really liked the way web sets up this week. Yeah yeah like like the fact that you're getting to wills l. a. torres. You know only a thousand bucks cheaper than we have. I guess the way. I would describe it as it's almost like a swing season field but with like six or seven of like the big big. You know it's Almost like they drop them in on top of everyone so when we get to the middle of the field and we get a little bit further down in the pricing rick. You looking all ball strikers. Are you taking a course. History into account differently than you would somewhere else. Because of the set of skills year valuing what are you looking at us. As we get to the middle of the card in phoenix. There are some guys. I'm definitely going to lean heavily on the ball. Strikers that strokes gained approach number of guys like russell henley who essentially since the tour restarted. in in the summer. I mean he's been one of if not the best approach player on tour. You look at the shot link. Eighties been absolutely phenomenal. Now he's going to be a more volatile more inconsistent type golfer. He's he's going to miss the cutoff dim but he's gonna pop up in the top ten a lot too so you have to be able to kind of eat that inconsistency and then a little bit further you know there are some guys who are really gaining. Steam and one from last week is henrik norlander. You know he's he's seventy five hundred dollars. He finished second last week at torrey pines and he was second in strokes gained from to which is usually a really good side so now is less to starts are a second place finish and a twelfth place finish. I know he's going to be popular this week. which kind of scares me a little bit. But i completely understand it. It's completely warranted. Because he's in a really cheap price point on draft kings. It only seventy five hundred dollars. How about our guy brendan steel. We talk about him a lot. And is it possible to be the trendy guy who's gaining steam and his picked as the sleep every week. But it's still kind of the sleeper in terms of overall ownership percentage in terms of bang for your buck. Maybe yeah i like steel in this spot. I i think norrland's really popular and just for one hundred dollars. Cheaper nice little of it might be steel. You know people are going to look at when when they played brendan steele. Maybe it was at sony and he finished fourth. That's going to be seen as a disappointment. 'cause you probably should have won that golf tournament and any kind of faltered again on a sunday but a fourth place finish is phenomenal then. He backs that up with a twenty first at the american express and outside of the to cuts that. He's missed here at this event in the last two years he's had a great track record. So i think steel who is notoriously a very good ball striker not great but good Is certainly in a prime spot here to kind of be a pivot from some of those more popular options in the seven thousand dollar range. You know. I've never asked you about saint louis atom long which i can't believe Talk about a guy who just kind of is is around and is around on saturdays and sundays in a guy who has almost that exact description rick. He's got some real heartbreaks in terms of Tournaments that he should have fared better in some situations that kept him out of of the playoffs last year. But i'm just curious not even necessarily for this week but there's eight local connection and He's a great dude. So what have you seen from from adam long and if you had any atom long exposure since he's been making his His entrance on tour here over the last year. So yes early. We've seen a pretty good ascension from atom long who i think is hilarious because names adam. Long he's one of the shortest centers on the people that are like. Oh hit far. No not at all. Actually but he hits a lot of fairways. We've actually seen a very good stretch of golf from adam long you know. He played well at maya. Kobe finished third there. He had a an eleventh place. Finish in houston and what i like about him. Is he pops right. That's something we talk about. I would much rather have adam long in my lineups or maybe all my betting card. Who is going to alternate. Missed cuts and top ten. I don't care if this guy finishes thirty seventh every week. That doesn't mean you any bats. It doesn't win you any contest. If he's if he's in your fantasy lineups adam long has legitimate top-five upside which a lot of his peers. A lot of guys who are priced in the same range. Him probably don't so add along is is becoming more and more valuable. We're seeing his his results trend in the right direction. I do like the way he's playing right now. Rick run good. Dot com is the website. Rick run good dot com. And if you subscribe you can also get all of the european tour info. And i'm not gonna ask you to dive into the saudi international with us although i'm looking at my sheet and licking my lips right now rick. But wow this is. This is a pretty phenomenal. Not just the quality of field but to see the guys you alluded to to justin earlier oris while the guys and some of the traveling that they're doing here in the early part of the season guys going back and forth from europe or even the middle east. it's it's remarkable but it's a fun field and dumb when you're involved in euros. You can almost twenty four hours nonstop golf on saturday and sunday. Coming down the wire for sweat. Yeah that's right. These guys are more than willing to make the trip. For the appearance fee that they will be pocketing this week. So no no worries about that. But you're right. I mean patrick. Reed who i mean. He has been bouncing back and forth from the middle east a battle. That would affect your physically. Yeah i mean it's it's funny. We talk about this all the time and someone said to be. I mentioned about rory. I guess it was last week coming back and someone said well. Roy is not roy's not flying coach. Roy's not like in the middle seat flying coach but it's still a lot of debate through it is still a you know something that historically players have struggled with so yeah it will be interesting to see what re- does going in that direction but this is a very new event is only the third year crest so we've seen dustin johnson play at each of the last two years. He wanted any finished second. That shouldn't be that much of a surprise for you Bryson de shadow took a year off after a sixth place. Finish in the inaugural event. He's back again looking much different playing much different so interested to see how he kind of tackles day field. That does have a lot of pga tour talent in it But it's incredibly top heavy. And then it kind of falls off to some of the some of the more established eurogas rick game and rick run. Good dot com is the website. Who do you like For one and done what's your strategy thinking one and done for phoenix this week. Yes so if you're early in your one and done pool and you haven't picked too many. I like webb simpson. You know he is. He's someone that you can deploy probably five or six times a year and be really comfortable with it. He is not only the defending champion. He's playing well and all the guys who have shorter odds than him. Rory justin thomas and schlafly jon rahm. I probably want to save. So i like i like being aggressive with webb simpson here. Now i'm in on a one and done. That started at the beginning of the season. Chris so i have to be a bit more creative. I've already used webb simpson. So i'm actually looking at someone like bubba watson and and bubba has been hit off the tees been hitting it well on his approaches and what we always know about bubba. Is you want to get him on a bubba track now. Historically that's augusta national it's ppc riverislands. It's riviera he's got seven wins combined between those three courses but outside of victory which is never one here in in a in phoenix. He's been unbelievable at this event. So i think it's a really good time to kind of get bubba bubba track. It's like a like a a minor league track for him so to speak. So those are the two guys that i would focus on. I like it and speaking of to. Do you have your evil celebrity couple fire at how about this one. How about a rod and jennifer lopez. That is such a good rod. You know a lot of people do not like a rod. He doesn't care you know he's a sell out for the money he's had some you know. He tried to slap a ball out of a out of a glove. That's a little cheating kind of thing. So i think this is a surprise lows there and i will see that and i will raise you a heidi and spencer from the hills. Y with scott. Disick and Whichever kardashian. I can't remember either but scott. Yeah i'll go. I'll go spencer and heidi from the hills. that's good. i really liked that. Rick game and rick run good dot com head over. Check out the cheat sheets and get involved. You got euro-action we've got the waste management and you know we cannot in spirit be drinking beers at seven. Am while everyone cheers for the guy. That's faking us out by not putting the whole placement in for another five hours. There's beautiful things about the waste management and all enjoy them in spirit this year. Thank you my friend facts. Chris thanks to rick and a big thanks to jason. Motte will be with us tomorrow. For edition of the chris. Rabi sean skips dak calm until tomorrow. Be nice to each other as always peace a row.

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08/31/21 - Boomer and Gio Hour 3 (8AM-9AM)

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"Click coming september first rewind nine eleven. Today we've had a national tragedy and incredible plane crash into the world. Trade center will look back at the tragedy of that day. Another explosion has taken place at the pentagon it became very appeared that what was happening was terrorist. Fox news presents rewind nine eleven report. These buildings down. Listen on odyssey. Gummy live bill. Four touch studio at his dallas jerry in four boomer and geo before the break i i mentioned that there's something going on or something went on yesterday at the tennis center and tennis is fine but this is more about the fans and the way they had to get into the building. I bring this up. Because i think going forward the certainly going to be a concern of mine. So the tennis center. I believe is open for full capacity but you have to be fully vaccinated and the way i read. The story was the lines to get in. Were so long that in some cases it took people over two hours to get it now. That might be an exaggeration to make the story better. I don't know even if it's an hour and a half to try and get in. Could you imagine you go to a giant game. A jet game go to what. And then i know. The garden is a fully vaccinated building now for this season coming up. No one did. They say that they've said that for months. I didn't see that you sure about that. Because i got for the last playoff games. I think but i don't know if i just bought a rangers ticket plan for like eleven games and i talked to the guy specifically and they said that there was no word on that yet or their warrant restrictions yet but that might change. Because that's leave. The garden is vaccination required now The it i will tell we'll we'll clean that up and make sure we know for sure but i'm almost one hundred anyways. The tennis is one hundred percent fully vaccinated. Have to have proof of tests or anything like that. Just i believe you needed proof of vaccination. Okay and so i think if this becomes something going forward universally and it might. I don't know like i'm going to a concert this weekend. Where it's maroon five. Oh nice down in camden high. So you need your proof of vaccination or you have to have a negative test within forty eight hours either way. You're showing some sort of you know health. Id and it's concerning because nobody budgets two hours to get into a facility. I mean i don't do. No no no. I like to get there early. When i'm going just because i want to avoid any normal lines but that's ridiculous. I mean you're talking a very long time and we're talking about getting into city field for seven and a game. Could you imagine if that came to fruition going forward. You've a seven game and you can't get you missed all game. There's gotta be a better way. I mean i don't know what that is honestly i. I don't how i don't have the only answer. Is you have to have more people checking and you have to have more entry points. I mean i don't know because clearly it's going to it's going to be important if that's your requirement for your facility that you're going to have to show the proof that's fine. That's going to take a moment. It shouldn't take that long. It's gonna take a moment you have to have other places to get in and more people check and it's the only way i think you could lose zuzana only one interest because i was just thinking entrance y- because they check it when you go into whole light ground so it's at the front gate like right. There in flushing meadow park. They don't check in once you're in there. It's once you got what you make your engine sure. And there's only one way and because i did it now. I think about it what the owners playoffs i took. Oh my brother-in-law my nephew and one of the honor. Playoff games at the call seaman. They at the time they had to. You had to have either proof of test or vaccination if you were you could sit non vaccinated sections but then have approved all the tests so they did check that and there were no lonzo to wherever or at least it wasn't nothing significantly to get in. We got early but still there are a lot of people there and it wasn't any big deal to get in so maybe this is just because the way the us Open arena whatever. It's called out there. The national tennessee go. the national. Tennis centre has just the one the one gate. But i was not sure that guy barclay center to We'll require fans and employees to be acted act just came out two weeks ago as well fans and employees not you saw the garden definitively or no not yet. But what about the islanders about okay. I'm not sure. I'm madison square garden. I feel like made this announcement three months ago. I it they might have. But i'm telling you from the guy that. I talked to less than three months ago about this rangers plan which by the way. I'm waiting to find out. One lung was number is going to get retired so you can decide if i need to get another game. Or what hopefully Get lucky and have that. He didn't say that you needed specifically if you needed fully Vaccination and he said no not as of now but obviously that could change so and especially when we talk about the indoor arenas. That's we have an issue. Where outside a yankee stadium or city field. I don't think that that's going to be an issue. Moving forward. I wouldn't imagine i would think that they were going to change that. The would change it probably now. I know now. The garden did require the vaccine for their foo fighters concert. I knew about right. That was about a month ago. I wanna say something like that right. But maybe anticipating next year with the rangers or the next. And you're right. I mean they did for the knicks playoffs which was more recently than anything else. I just. I didn't hear that about moving forward. I bought those restrictions were lifted. And if they're put back on then you know that changes the dynamics of barclay center for sure. Okay and i do think that's going to be the way i really do. I think he's gonna be a wave of the future. That's kind of where we're going for. How long. I mean forever until it's gone if it ever is gone. I don't i don't know. I can't answer your. I don't know the answer right now. This is what we're dealing with. And so i guess the point is little public service announcement. Be ready to stand in line to get in because and now it's not the case for city field and i know that but if that turns out to be at some point and you're going one of these seven inning games you better make sure you're there early. I mean even so beware the. Us open a made a lot of people. Don't want and you know i heard you. I heard you say slide slightly. My head's at the traffic was also terrible to had to of been yeah drove. I drive by that way on my way home. So when i'm passing i'm like dance a lot of traffic and then it wasn't even on my side whose people getting off to get to the other side and turn around and come back but this line went from the flushing meadow exit which anybody who knows that exit on the the grand central worse at this thing was backed up all the way probably about two or three miles past the lie entrance and exit to start monday. Was i used to see or feel anything sunday when i went to the game. Now that's another detractor for the game. This afternoon i never have you ever done that. Going to city field or the week of the tenants can't do it. I always thought the mets tried to not that they try. I always thought they tried to schedule. Baseball tried to schedule them away for two weeks. It's too authorities but isn't the first week the isn't that the biggest crush of people though because you've got matches going on all over the place and as you get further and further into the event there's less matches going know. There's nothing on the outside. So you know you would think people wouldn't be around as much and there would be a little logic in the thought processes scam making. But you know that tennis starts all. We'll start for the eleven. Am is usually the first eleven at least used to watch it a lot. It was eleven aim was the first match and it goes all the way through. What eight nine hundred morning. So you have tickets for separate. I've only gone once in my life. And it was with a buddy who i happen to be working there so i kinda got hooked up and wanting a sweet whatever. It was a great experience. But i've never gone with real tickets to a certain session. I'm assuming they get spread out. So you have the early session or actually pretty neat. If you go to one of the early i went twice and one day i went and i remember walking around the grounds and you know. They've got the stadium court and then the the right next adjacent to it and there's all sorts of courts all over the place them walking around the grounds and seeing just this a massive amount of people around what just looked like a random tennis court enclosed by offense and somebody has got to be somebody turned out to be annakournakova. Wow mpn she was on like whatever was court sixteen or you know whatever and the amount of people that were trying to get a looking at a glimpse of her playing. Because you right there. Yeah you know it's not like you're all the way up. And then i think venus williams was playing that night and i remember going into the stadium. My tickets were. And i didn't know i got him from a friend when i got in. They were all the way up. I look like i was watching to anselm. It was neat to be there and it is a cool. It's a great event it really is. And if you're even a moderate tennis fan. I would suggest you go. Because it's a blast the way you can kind of maneuver around from From match to match to match but there was a match. I wanna say it's gotta be in nineteen ninety one ninety two right around there. Were jimmy connors. Who clearly at the end of his. You know the the end of his great career. I remember he had a match. That started somewhere after nine pm. I remember thinking my god. This poor guy is gonna. It's nine o'clock. he can't play. And if i remember correctly he was down a set and then got down like four love in the second set and like just gave up that second set to conserve his energy and then came back and i believe he won in five sets at two o'clock in the morning. Wow i remember staying up. It was like it was one of the greatest was though. Isn't it so now. I'm cry check. Maybe that's mild tennis fan at best and like i said i've only been in the open once but there is something to it or you're watching the great individual perform as opposed to going to see my life. I've never been to a golf events in person. But i've i've gone a team sports. You watch the rangers or the knicks. So the mets or yankees or whatever right now. Football games watching roger federer. Take the court at the. Us open watching serena williams. There is something special about that experience. Crossing the individual great athlete compete at the highest level. I i love that. I should go back. I know some of my friends love to do it. It's just not something that's ever been on my radar to do every single year or do very often. I had that great experience once. And i figure i just sat in the sweet right here. There's no way ever top days or bother going back. Well the only way that you tobbaco sit up close and you really see the speed of the ball and the precision. It was nineteen ninety one and it was aaron krickstein. He buy you close in a five set tiebreak. yeah. I them back then. I was watching tennis often. And i remember used sampras and agassi you get into it like you watch this or don't anymore i mean ever again ever since kids in little league. I don't have time to watch right so something's got to fall by the wayside. There's not enough time for everything. We'll even baseball for me. When i first started dating. I went from going to man. It had been twenty game not to listen season ticket holders every but i went from going when i first got my license. I was going to twenty twenty games. A year mostly met game some yankee games and philadelphia. We go to once in a while to remember. Once we started dating dropped from twenty two like five and you just all of you start doing different things and instead of watching the game every night. All right on wednesday night. We're going to the movies reading newspaper tomorrow and it just change life gets in the way of course now. Is there like a tennis app that you could go. Watch every volley with the baseball. Watch every fifteen minutes. Watch every volley from there probably is. I don't have it then. We'll be dot com. I got nfl game. Passed by the way. I don't need you. i do need the game passcode. Come on we got to share that co jerry wolf. I'll maybe we'll tell you. What do you want me to give you a ten bucks or something. See split it and they're gonna knock me out if you're in. That's when you need to know. Oh you might not be able to sign in that sure. That's a good point. I think i'm gonna say. I might sign up for the all twenty to this particular seizure for the nfl especially doing what you do it every day now all right quick break when we come back. We'll get lopresti in here then at the end of the hour we'll get ceelo versus sal more of your calls coming up as well. Eight seven seven three three seven sixty six sixty six sal jerry in for boomer and gio eats the morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo thirty zahle jerry four boomer and geo fans. Cbs sports. on tuesday. Lot going on and to tell us all about it. His name is they call him. Seal brought to you by winters. Rose way systems long island's number one choice for your waste collection. Recycling needs visit winters bros. dot com fast. Start for the yankees last night. A lot of hard contact in the first inning as the angels went with the bullpen game. Quick to nothing lead which could have been more but giancarlo stanton grounded into a double play in the first inning. There corey kluber making his first start since late may pretty much cruise to the first three innings. He had the strikeout working as well but he would run into trouble in. The fourth swung back backhoes. Gallo but ball has gone. It's a grand slam. jack mayfield. Got a pitch over the plate and hit it over the love field fence a grand so love the middle middle curve ball john sterling here on the fan and that was the first to flip steak pitches on the night for the yankees. You had that one. Andrew heaney too otani leading off the fifth long solo homer to snap a five five tie. Oh two one the garrison. The six that rbi triple over aaron judge had enright actually was a fastball. Kind of out of the zone wasn't where they wanted it and he just kind of slapped it out there. Judge was playing very shallow. Probably because it was a two strikeout op. Triple yeah yeah. He did not play that so great but if you look where he started when that balls churn play was pretty shallow. Bad got turned around your way up to get it yup smack and then klay homes hanging a two slider zilog lagaras in the eighth for the go ahead. Rbi single in the angels did hold on to beat the yanks in the first three from anaheim. Eight seven third straight loss for aaron boone's club though his offense did produce in this one stanton had the game. Rbi single in the fifth and then retied the game at seven in the seventh with a long two run homer four hundred and fifty seven feet while autonomies blast off a heaney traveled four thirty one. The otani one. I didn't like at unlike watching that. But jeez was impressive. You went up there with his plan. Data pitch and it into the rocks. We'll be on the wall and left center his twenty fifth of the season despite the loss. He's locked in right now. Another majestic tacoma in this one tonight at g. quality to you know he put a couple of good swings on ball. Tonight you know wanting to see shack is tough. Tough right on right guy. Yeah but The yankees take the loss. You got jamison. Tie on the mound. Tonight he was supposed to go up against tiny but he's been scratched from the start sore wrist from Hit by pitch over the weekend should be watching the replay that i didn't know that happened over the weekend seeing the replay during the game this morning that he didn't break his hand. Yeah there's like a fastball. right on the top. It's really amazing. He's out there doing what he's doing. Swinging the bat forty second home run and the way majors. Michael conforto thirty three rabies on the year long has thirty or i mean think about that one lagaras has one how is wall a garissa. Almost the same about arabise as michael conforto better batting average yes significantly better to forty five and can what two hundred unit looking at that. That conforto miss fifty games. Oh my god. He's didn't fifteen. I'm just want to see the games. Played ninety. five games played For lagaras Eighty six games played thirty rubies and eighty six games conforto as thirty three and nineteen ninety five games and that is why look cavity stunk. How's how's that possible anyway. Sorry guys leave the mets and they find success elsewhere right. I guess sometimes the medicine they don't hit pretty much everything else. Boomy though i'm the problem raise the red sox. Six to one eight in a row for tampa they're up seven on the yanks youngster. Three clear the red sox in the loss column for the top wildcard spot. If i asked you who leads baseball right now. In victories as a pitcher would you know the answer to that without looking I wouldn't i would say corbin burns Leading and says think of the good teams who on the white saw lance lynn. No you tell me no not laflin dodgers. I would say nobody. I mean no ledgers. People don't care about wins but it just kind of proof point day and age right who you're gonna give me julio rius rallies okay. It's like wow. I didn't realize we're getting. We're about to get into september year. And that's where we're at fifteen wins for nells pretty damn good actually. What does your as their I just clicked off. okay. I do care about wins. I think people do around the gate. You who ron darling. Talking about all the time how important. It's not important when you look at metrics analytics but it is important for a pitcher to get a win. Three one seven. Good if i asked you. How many pitchers in the american league are on pace of throw two hundred innings this year. Three zero so. I mean maybe awful. Last year the shortened season. I guess i mean had coal not gone out with cove it. I think he probably would've comfortably hit it but Yeah i mean. Wow it's it's interesting though so you would think that without the d. h. And the would be the other way right in the al guys go deeper young pinch hitting. Yeah but it it for some reason. How many in the national league. We have an idea there. There's a there's a decent amount of me pulled up here. I was looking at the movies. Talk about ten. Are we talking about five. Zack wheeler league baseball right now. With a hundred and eighty two and two-thirds he's gonna he's gonna get another one named for having on it. Yeah adam wainwright is yeah. He continues to slow. And he's he's erase under three walker buehler's at one sixty nine to figure. These guys have won like three four starts that every maybe in five. Max those aren't locks wheeler. I would say maybe the only one that's actually a lock so go figure it's it's a different age right. And the in the american league zach cranky leads the way with one fifty nine in two thirds and being i can hear boomer putting ice picks is right now boomer boomer loves to do stuff like that. Yes he does well. Let's look at the go. Go through every game left on their schedule. The rest of the way here absolutely found interesting. You know it's different air here. Almost fall asleep for a second. But we're good to go the guy who was engaging really wa- that's interesting nationally. Well become to ask follow up. Okay there enough. Taiwan walker will pitch the mets as a reliever in the completion of the suspended. Game with the marlins today where they were stroman through like nine pitches back in april to pick it up top one nine inning game. And then you have trevor williams starting the nightcap split double header with the marlins in the first two of a four-game set Nfl rosters have to be cut down to fifty three by four o'clock today. The giants yesterday traded defensive lineman bj hill and it conditional seventh round. Pick to the bengals for offensive lineman billy price a former first. Rounder bar type. Doesn't play right right so they take a flyer on this guy and hope that the change of scenery will suddenly unlocked. The on line is search. Yeah great great. We go churning the roster all right as we wanna do you. Just keep rotating lyman right before the season. These things got to be figured out well in advance. John's again behind it joe. Judge said. Evan ingram's still was to see a doctor to measure this affair. Severity of his calf injury right. We talked about mike trout last hour with core right. So we'll see what's up with him. The microphone exactly and darius laden is going to get on the field this week. They'll see how his foot and ankle react as obviously as the team's gear up for the start of the season we mentioned yesterday carson wentz going on the Or did i mention that with the code list but close contact and as long as everything checks out and he tested negative. He'll be back to practice back out where we at with vaccination with the nfl players. We almost at one hundred percent. I think it's closed right. It's like ninety staff. Is i think at one hundred right players. I thought were ninety. I want to say but you can still have. I mean if you're reading this. I thought today about the nfl specifically if you're vaccinated you still have to get tested every seven days. Yeah why because you can carry it. Yeah or or vaccinate test positive. But i mean if everybody or ninety percent of the league is vaccinated whatever it is ninety three percent of the players hundred percent of the coaches and the staff there vaccinated. Why then do you need the test. Weekly that doesn't make some of the people that don't and also to know yeah. I thought that was a little excessive myself. When you wanna know if you're an athlete and if i got vaccinated. I should feel like i'm okay. Yeah but okay. Let's say you get it and all of a sudden energies down. You're not performing well. Then you get tested. If you feel like there's the mandatory tests every seven days again for what. I would say look i got vaccinated. What do you want me to get if i feel sekule. You know if if they told me right now. I needed a test. Fine hundred percent. Well that's what that's i guess. I'm not blaming the players. I'm saying the league. I think that's a little much on top of wanting to have one hundred percent vaccination now. You're going to be testing every week. I i just think that that's a little much doesn't faze me anyway. You guys forget into this. Bizarre bishops sycamore stories range. And there's no other word for right. It's very bizarre. So they play in this national broadcasts on. Espn they do a number of high school games and they go up against img academy which is like a powerhouse from florida. Espn for this well. Was there blaming the marketing company. Which i guess they contract to set up these matchups. So they bring in this. Bishops sycamore from ohio and img academy waxes them fifty eight nothing to the point. Where midway through the second quarter. It's thirty two nothing. And whoever's calling the game on espn is like bishop. Sycamore told us they had a number of division one prospects on their roster and to be frank a lot of that we could not verify. The couldn't verify you go to their website. The about us and the staff pages are blank apparently or allegedly. These are like juku dropouts. That are couldn't catch on and they're trying to make a name for themselves. Which is my favorite part. So there there's men and they're getting their ass kicked by this whole thing all able to get on tv and espn was just like sure. We'll put it on the other part of the story. Is they played the night two nights friday and lost and scored like seven points. Yeah same players in a different atmosphere. Obviously if you told me this was nineteen eighty two. When you got duped like this get it. There's so much information out there now if you can't find anything about a program there's i mean there's not red flags you got to fire somebody. Yeah and apparently the head coach leroy. Johnson has has like an arrest warrant out. I saw that yeah. So he's got the bench warrant for failure to appear in a domestic violence case and then there's another one Basically where he owes money to fall to one hundred thousand dollar loan and also they stay at some hotel with the team and never they left and never paid for so they made this whole story of the day created some kind of team that yeah so they make up a fake team and then they go to who to say. Hey put me on tv. What's lonzo ball then. Opponent we wanna beyond. How does that work that someone should be fired. Hard enough to make the team up though. Jerry i mean how logistically find out if you have no connection whatsoever. How do you go. Hey we have this team. Playing football put on. Tv do play. They were owen six lessees. There's online only school that they you know all classes couple of days a week. I saw one yesterday. Where i guess the address that's listed for. The school was like a duplex apartment. Somewhere the middle of ohio's right so i think there's a lot of those that are out. There are very strange. So that's making the rounds and people are having fun with that Let me bring you something. Non sports related Which is kinda funny. So the henrico scoreboard. This is in virginia. They were more than three hours into their agenda last week. There you know they're public meeting so they get to the public comment portion of the meeting and they were dealing with serious topics. Kovic returned to school transportation issue so on and so forth so the board members maybe not really fully paying attention on. What's going on the names of the people who had apparently signed up to speak as it turns out. There was only one person who actually addressed the board. And here's what happened. After she was finished and one of the board members went to the next name on the list. Thomas will do appreciate you. Phil mccracken phil mccracken. Really soak suk medic affiliate make hawk affiliate make hawk. I leaned over light. God eileen dolar bend over don kita kita never at that. Wayne kerr wayne kerr while to silence in attendance. I don't get this get it. This pull the bart simpson in real life with all of these names in to the school board and the guy's going down i mean mccracken for how many years gate. Oh my god. What an idiot. How do you find this stuff. Not i had not one but two people send this to maybe like. Please play this tomorrow including someone who works in the building here. Oh man we're going to talk about the cougar. That was found not a woman the career because exhibit. No no i mean. It was founded apartment in manhattan legit full. Grown stuff goes by a cougar to a party and it went beserk in google. It come on. I swear to god right. What do you mean found that would have required to read the rest of the story headline reader. Beautiful animal of course. But it was jean hatton. That's animal beautiful animal unless you get up close to an Probably see so. There's someone posted a photo and there's nothing funny about what's going on in new orleans now. What was interesting was in this part of the story. A resident posted a photo of a supermarket in new orleans. I'm on the shelves. Are white clean. Yes nothing doing craigslist from yesterday. We saw this except for about ten bags or ruffles. Had anthony davis that. I'll tell you posted the video. Because they want davis major props to the principals and the video that went. Viral is something like we're in the middle of a major hurricane and we still don't want the whole chips. Oh my gosh cleaned out there. They are in the bottom on the pilots. They don't vote here and we're take a quick break when we come back. We're going to get these two against one another. We'll have a little bit of fun. And then you're on the wall that two three three seven sixty six sixty six. You live in the point of studio sal. Jerry eats the morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg g. nadi boomer and geo ted in front of nine salad jerry in four boomer. Ngo we'll get back to your calls. More on the mets yankees the football blah blah blah blah blah. Got a lot to do still in the next hour and ten minutes. But i figured for now what the hell we got two guys in here. That have been around a long time. The prestige for sure ceelo spring of seven was my intern shale. And then right into part time work okay. Oh three for me as an intern hiatus bs. You didn't have to bring that break promote through. While i was here from three to two thousand ten and then back again for a short scene and then left on my own that time and then came back so your third tour of duty. Yeah exactly three times a charm. It's hope so. I want to be fun just to see what you guys know about the morning show. Since you're now filling in on like i am right now. A lot eight questions. Not that big a deal. Some i will let him get the first shot someone doing the buzzer thing. Okay only to do that so do you have music for me just to make me something so go ahead. This is what the standard game show me. That's fine is preparing all right. So here we go. I'll start with you and this man simple. There are two players that influence boomer to wear the number seven. Who were rogerio roger. Okay thank god you got essences right to your left No chance michael vick. I have not boomer play no mickey mantle. I mean no half apply. I don't actually. I was going to. I know he's a man than the only other seven from when he was growing up. I would think of would make him out. Yeah no i don't know. Wow my here. We go right out of the gate. What's wrong with the go back. Might right yes. Jose reyes influence maryland. 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While they're both jay's we said jonathan jonathan joseph jason jackson our right jason jackson. I didn't know that you have the same as most mussa's jax spelled differently. I'm surprised you didn't know. Go with the boat. No regulator he. Now i listened member. I've been doing the overnights for the last. What five months or socio. I haven't had the chance to listen to way they did. It was the bed. Yeah exactly. I'm sleeping at the time. You guys are on usually more that. When i was training with stephen howard beach there was a time i was up at six. Am every day. And i was listening at least a good two hours on my way and that was a good four months two hours a day for a while so but outside of that. Yeah it's highly know about the regulator. I did not know. I didn't even know the reagan. Actually impression your whimsey. Yeah well. I know i mean oh that's also on twitter to certain things if i asked you not eddie what college that al whether you want to you know he went to tune. Yeah and what was the other one which is amazing to me that he was at this place. Was he one of these guys. That went out to indiana indiana state. Indiana state all. These guys aren't the indiana real and two smaller schools. What joe still make racers for a little while sure. I'm pretty sure he worked for the pace of joe's with some obscure wasn't wasn't yet i. You like a satellite of it who beningo beningo. Maybe i know it wasn't the main campus. But he was definitely out there for sure. Yeah he talked about it many many times all right i would say good job not terrible also. Okay someone impressive. We'll take a break when we come back. We'll reset the program. Nine o'clock it is and jerry in for boomer and gio coming to you from the built ford tough studio tougher than before smarter than ever shopped. The new ford lineup by ford now dot com the code nineteen pandemic showed us how microscopic virus could end our lives. 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4/12/21 - Hour 2 - deGrom, Gleyber, A Job For 'The Hammer', NFL Draft Rumors, An Update, A-Rod Is Buying The T-Wolves And A Whiny Caller

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4/12/21 - Hour 2 - deGrom, Gleyber, A Job For 'The Hammer', NFL Draft Rumors, An Update, A-Rod Is Buying The T-Wolves And A Whiny Caller

"I love sports. Love culture will have a brand new podcast called take line hosted by me jason concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee montgomery and the games for the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling. The important political and social issues happening sports had on new episodes. Drop every tuesday so listening. Subscribe on odyssey for wherever. You get your podcasts though. Yeah i listen to this one. I appreciate that not everyone. I listened to those breaks. It's tough you know. I gotta talk to people like some things. I gotta read surfing and you snapped right into it and you said oh. Wow that's pretty interesting one. It was well. I just at this point. It's almost like he expected. You know he's dominating in that way it's almost like you expect the offense to go silent and i don't know what it is. I know there's different theories on things like basically make me a. Maybe a team is just so focused on trying to get them a win. That they're just get too uptight. Or i know that jacob degrom faces a lot of you know good pitchers as well because it lines up with other teams aces. But i mean the amount of times we have seen him absolutely dominate. And the team can't score for him. I mean it feels like it's every frigging outing and then you have. A new season team ended a huge offensive player in francis golden door jacob. Degrom is throwing harder than he's ever thrown and you can you know maybe this won't happen again and this is what the problem is you got conforto door and pete alonso all basically mired in slumps yup all the same time and michael conforto has had a number of opportunities that he has failed to come through on on the contract discussions or lack thereof are having a negative effect on on him. I don't know but you were. We were all expecting this lineup. Eventually will come around. I mean they will start hitting the ball much like the yankees will start hitting the ball and you just hope that it marries up with the pitching performances that they've been getting from most of their starting pitcher so yeah it was frustrating. I saw big zoo was tweet now things on twitter where he should leave and this wasn't he's not going to leave. He's not going anywhere. He's the ultimate professional. He's gonna worry about what he does for his job. That's it and what did he talk about it. After the game. How a light hitting player hit a home. Run off them. It was one hundred mile. An hour fastball. Sure how does that happen so he. He's more worried about himself. And yeah of course he would love to have the run support but the one thing i will say is with the decrease interest and win loss records. It is about. Era is about you know how many innings your pitching strikeout you talking about individual awards and things like that. But he wants to win games. Of course he does. I mean and not for his own win loss record before the mets win loss. He's a professional. He's not going to walk in to sandy alderson's offices go get me out of here because i'm getting any runs. That's not who he is. You're not even rise. We won't hear again from him until he starts again. Is there a breaking point at some point though no feels like career being wasted. No no i don't believe. They totally flopped this year. I think the guy is the of the ultimate pro. I'm sorry due to blame him for wanting to one to win at some point in some day he'll have a statue right next to the tom rivers he will. He's already got two cy youngs and he's on his way to a third right now. He could have won last year. Even though it was truncated season he was right there in the mix. I mean a little early for siam talk right now i who performances have not given you anything but the idea that you know. He's getting better with age. Yeah no. I did that. Sports minute i agree with the i just. I wouldn't blame him if he got really frustrated. I don't think any of us met fans would but that's not who he is. Yeah i'm just telling you you know. He's a late bloomer. So he's more mature the most guys and you know he's been through the wringer a little bit but now he's come out on the other side of needs better for it. He'll up getting a new contract eventually and You know he's gotten better. He's walked such a smart pitcher. That's the thing. Like if i if i were on that pitching staff with him. I would just try to emulate. Everything he does in his control was ridiculous. One pitch away from him and ends up the positive as a home run and they can't you know and then of course eddie s comes in and gets booed off the mound again. Just after i got done given all the all the praise for doing what he's supposed to he comes in and get away from the mets you'll have a friend who texted me and said that he he's like i. I know this sounds lame. But i feel really lucky that i'm alive watching jacob degrom. Do this and i get emotional. Every time he takes them out. It's tom seaver esque. I said i mean. I know you can appreciate it. But like he's like out there like getting emotional with every pitch because we're watching greatness every time every time and when the lineup is putrid as it was on saturday with him doing that it just it annoys the hell out of you know coming out of spring training. A lot of the baseball insider types. Yeah john hayman's of the world and people like that like this is going to be some met lineup man. i'll tell you what from top to bottom. They may not be able to play defense but they can certainly hit yet. They can't play defense then they can't hit. Then you got a problem. I mean i think that they will. But this is i mean. It's it at some point. I'd love to have that team that you could count on being a great offensive team. Eventually it will come. We'll have to come just like for the yankees. You'll have to come yankees. Got a problem though. The yankees problem is at shortstop. And it's a big problem. No yeah continue to be. I mean and i don't understand how this was. A guy played short his entire life in glacier as moved over to second when he got when he came up. Obviously didi was here then decided to move on from d. glorious and then kleber torres goes too short his natural position and here. We are big issue. I big issue. The al dukes scarecrow walk is just. It's gotta stop. We gotta do about this brian in derby connecticut. What's going on. brian You know what we. We've had this problem with the mets going on a few years now they can't sync up. They start out of the gate. The pitching's great. They can't hit then when the hitting comes around. The pitching starts throwing seven-run games up there but the time we get saint up were too far in the whole. Can we just think up a little bit earlier. It was that easy. Brian holy yet. I mean obviously with the way that the season started. Everybody's got a head start in the amount of games that have been played so that sort of skews everything you know. It's funny how every fan thinks that. Their team is a has a certain trait and brian. Basically said what we all think yeah. Why can't the pitching in the heading all sync together. You know and i'm sure. Every fan of every football team feels the same way. Every baseball team hockey team every basketball team for us. Agus knick fans man we can't we can't win a close game we just can't win a close game more. We have been in close games until this year and then the last couple of games. They came back. They won tight games and they beat teams that they should have been beaten. So you can tell that. It's starting to turn for the knicks anyway. At least tom tiptoe you. I just hope that lewis row haas's and everybody's buddy in that in that dugout. That's the only thing like part of me wants the manager. Part of me wants the the coach. The head coach for all of these teams want certain guys to be uncomfortable. Like you don't want it to be a country club where you just show up and you hang out if you go over three and you don't get a runner of cross or you're not doing the right thing now. I know that they were going to move. Conforto down lineup. Because he deserved to be moved down in the lineup. I mean he's gotten off to a horrific completely lost right. I mean you throw your elbow out there and win a game. that's fine. that's why did jehovah bright knew he couldn't have his confidence tank right now. Yeah but you just want the manager. The whole people accountable that are not performing to what you expect them to be. Well i mean new york doesn't let you get away with anything though i mean that's the thing and people are sensitive to it. You know whether it be the media stall for the fans that are now allowed back in. The building manager doesn't always have to be the one to tell you that you better pick it up because we won't let you get away with it here. Well i think like you know when the nets bring in lamarcus aldridge he now starts playing. So somebody is andre. Jordan's gonna be losing playing time. Be sitting on the bench a decision that's made by the coach. You know that that goes to show you that. The coaches kind of in charge over there as long as players show up well. everything's collaboration. everything everywhere that's a. That's sean marks. i'm going to bring him in because deondraye looks lost. Can't play defense. He's old he's slow to. We're going to bring this guy in and the buyout market and you're gonna play steve. Nash probably has something to say about it but i mean all these things are collaborative. Yeah but you also know. I in other sports like guys get moved around. Guys get the moated they get you know in hockey. They get moved down line not playing well or they're doing stupid things like throwing the puck out of the defensive zone. Twenty six seconds into the frigging game. You know that kind of stuff. Where's your brain. What's going on. Yeah let's go to brian in order del. What's up brian. Hey woman you first time long time. Not that i wanna talk about. The delay is today and then stroman tweeting out about how upset he was and stuff like that and i just feel like this is an ongoing thing about you. Know the lack of respect. I row hot chaz in the clubhouse obviously it was a bad decision from the start that game but i mean when you having players going out tweeden house that they are just as bad because organization as a whole so. I want you guys. I don't know if i know that the home team decides these things. It's not just luiz role haas who is deciding it you know. He had his weather experts. That guy idea. I'd love to know if anybody knows exactly who that is. we can get. That guy replaced with matt hammer and managed to finally get away from news. Twelve but that's a slam dunk. Yeah i would wanted best jobs there is. I would imagine exclusive weather forecast expert for a baseball team. We have no idea who this was. And this is how this was explained exclusive to meaning like just to that just for the mets exclusive. This guy's not shared his forecast with anybody. But the mets member of years ago when the mets always getting injured and we didn't know what the injuries were really wanted. We wanna to get rid of doctors and trainers. I mean this is like come on one of the dumbest things that came out of that time was when they changed the way that jose reyes ran remember that they changed his gate. That was one of the dumbest things i've ever seen in my life. It's the way he runs. So we're going to have him crouch a little more and then gallup a little more come on. I think that's what you should do. Not i'm just gonna put you won't pull a hamstring and you pull your muscle. You're you know another Waited for me to not pull muscles. Don't run does not run love. Sports love culture will have had a brand new podcast called take line hosted by me chasing concepcion and two-time wnba champion renee. Montgomery in the game the players to the issues happening both on and off the court will be tackling the important political and social issues happening in sports head on new episodes. Drop every tuesday. So listen and subscribe on odyssey for wherever you get your podcasts. The morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo the thought processes that obviously the first three pecs quarterbacks before pedophile lanta. also maybe a quarterback. There's a building belief that the san francisco forty niners gonna take back jones out of alabama as opposed to just some fields. Now obviously we know that until they until we get there but that that to me is like where this whole draft now starts the shift because there are a lot of great wide receiver than this draft. There's some really good offensive. Linemen in this draft They're all sore three top running backs in the draft. And hopefully the jets will come out of this trap with one of those running backs whether it be an orgy. Harris out of alabama. That would one of those that kid harris is great. I love. I listened to a extended interview. Podcast with him. It was awesome. It was awesome. He's a great kid. Man he would be great for the jets. Raise your kids to be cornerbacks. These days because put golf clubs in her hands all that too. There is that but they're going to get drafted higher because of the way that the salary structure is sometimes they get overrated. There's going to be better players that are selected after these one hundred percent is no doubt. Yep and everybody's just trying to hit toronto hit on that great quarterback that you don't have to pay for a couple of years and then to make our own verse super bowl you as crazy as we all thought. The off season was going to be regarding the quarterbacks in the nfl the ones that are already established that has come to fruition. We've seen that now. And we've seen a lot of the trades that we thought we were going to say and now it looks like at least. The first repairs are going to be quarterbacks in the nfl draft. I jerry recco is here with the update. What's going on jerry morning. Geyser brought to you by town fair tire. Nobody beats town fair tire. No in this weekend. Nobody was beating decky matsuyama. The masters was played at augusta national. Matsuyama has won the masters tournaments. Want gymnast last hour. We gave you the the call in japan. That was nance on cbs. Yesterday here was mazzi through his translator. First japanese player to win a major pioneer in this and many other japanese will follow and glad to be open. The floodgates obviously through a translator of course he was ten under par. One shot win over will as all torres jordan speeds into awfully finish at minus seven meantime sunday baseball while the mets were rained out. And we'll get to that in just a moment. The yankees played indoors in tampa the whether there was pretty crappy too No leaks in the roof. There they were good to go. They wound up winning intent on one one swung on and hit hard the mental. There's a basic centerville gleyber torres scores and the yankees have a two run. Lead bay said an rbi for sanchez. He drilled a single right up. The middle of rhythm and the yankees. Now take a six four lead and then they would add to it with a couple more runs. They'd wind up winning eight four in ten. John stirred onions here on the fan with his onions. And all aaron boone says the offense was good but we can be better. We still cata traffic. That i expect us to have as when these guys are at their best and clicking and because it's going to be crazy than when they're savages at the plate yes. They haven't been savage ali. Who is the savage at the plate right now. Jd martinez of the red sox. He hit three home runs. Hey why don't you mention rafael devers. I can mention him to Jd martinez has five home. Runs and sixteen is three of them yesterday. So the leader for the mets which our is has one home run and three. Rbi that's the offense of leader for the mets red sox sports minute now now really know how does is out. Red sox stats like that. I'm just like me. I'm that guy. Oh are you okay. All right very good okay. Yes endeavors combined for nine. Rbi's in five home runs yesterday. Red sox beat the orioles fourteen two nine madonna yankees were going. I do more you can do. Whatever you want jerry. You're segment we'll will you brought up the red sox. I didn't know what i was trying to. I was trying to compare some of the offense of lear's baseball compared to the mets offense leaders which of course the mets have only played five games. Yeah no okay. One home run in three. Rbi's here was aaron judge. He was back this weekend after missing a little bit of time. So what happened. He might have just been a little little issue of taking too many hundreds of swings down there for an after games and hundreds of what are we. Don't here we need you to swing dorney game not after. I know but too much. Prep for aaron. By the way did you see what happened with george springer. While we talked about friday that something else happened he hurt his oblique coming back and he was taking swings and everything is fine. Got the quarter the hamstrings. Now he's got the quad mentioned that friday you did. I was a feel good friday. And i didn't even hear that right. It probably did. Maybe because it was negative news. And i wasn't paying attention and maybe not a great start. If that was going on here people would be screaming. Pitchforks would be out yankees over the road. Game in dunedin today against the blue jays. We're playing their first batch of home games in florida garrett cole robbie ray the starters You can hear this game on sports radio sixty six wfan am and wfan dot com pregame. Show of course. We'll start right after. Carmen roberts on the fan As for the mets they were right. Now you guys were talking about the decisions where it came from. Here was lewis row house discussing the weather forecast and they didn't screw it up. Basically the weatherman the in turn out to be a light rain He was more steady was heavier than what the forecast gave us and that's why he came. Came out as maybe right now. It's a wrong decision. Yes so they played a little bit of the first inning. Marcus stroman not happy. He also said to and stroman tweeted out that he has to wait another five days to pitch again. Rojo said as i listened back to it. He's not sure if it will be a full five days so we'll see maybe stroman gets in a little bit sooner That is not our hyper doppler unstuck norwegian high definition infrared microwaves super-sensitive doppler gps tracking weather observer. Dad perhaps they would not have even started the game had they use that yesterday sunday night. Baseball phillies beat the braves. Seven six. you had the controversial tag of play on the fly ball by dd gregorious down. The left field line alec bombs bohm scores from third and they wind up getting a victory. They needed to get. And you know we're in the day and age of hd radio nothing clearer than bom here pretty funny so you've got him. He's scored even though it didn't look like he scored what happened. Thereafter was a truest field in atlanta. The fans got a little crazy and started throwing things onto the field. They were not happy. Dan's be swanson not thrilled with the home crowd. I love the city. I love our fans. they're passionate. They care but what happened. After then onset call is like. That's the most embarrassing part of the whole night. Yeah he says There was so much not to like about. This is embarrassing representation of our city 'cause i know i know From being from here. That's not how we act. But that's what they did last night and he he act. You just saw it. That's what they did. So i mean what are you. Stop making excuses. You guys will. He did actually call. He's telling them not to do it. I know but he's but he's saying that's not how we act while he does want him back that way but you did so tough terrorists. How do we act great either. That's true last night at the garden. Knicks beat the raptors again. Playing point guard. Nice pass rush beautiful. Settle and it's ninety five ninety one. That is mike breen on. Msg knicks give up a lead. Get the lead back and then finish off. Toronto one zero two ninety-six those were two of julius randle twenty six points. Rj barrett had nineteen coach. The team fought with everything. You have into it. Try to make it go your way and we did get a lot of good things to build a lead. Then we struggled for a while but as rj barrett says losing the lead par for the course. I think what. I've learned over my course an nba that it is a long game anything can happen. Not everybody goes on runs. yup man. That's why they never panicked. We're going to win the whole time to their team. They are a good team but the knicks are better as they when they get back to five hundred twenty seven and twenty seven on the season. The knicks were twenty three of twenty seven from the free throw line because foul shots win ballgames. The knicks take on the lakers. Also of note yesterday to the heat remain on the next couple of games. They beat the blazers. Yesterday as miami has won six of seven the celtics had a thirty one to three run and they beat the nuggets one zero five eighty seven ending. Denver's eight game winning streak. Pacers are twenty five and twenty seven. They beat the grizzlies hawks. Twenty eight and twenty five of the win over the hornets off. Teams around the knicks are are starting to win. That is very true. Yes they're starting to. Let's make it three in a row tonight. They're gonna go and the t. Wolves beat the bulls. The tea was about to be bought by alex. Rodriguez and a billionaire investor minneapolis. What's he doing now. He's not moving to minneapolis. A-rod hands on hands on. You've got to be making decisions. You gotta be sitting courtside hands off. Yeah he needs to be hands on be you want him to screw them up and be a failure but he needs to be akis. Be sitting. Courtside like steve bomber. Does he needs to go to every links game. That's what i think. Maybe he will you know. He's got very athletic daughters. Who play softball. And i think basketball. Maybe he will be at all those games. Not wolf games then links games so mark. Lore is the guy who a rod bought the timber wolves lynx. With and he's the ceo of jet dot com. Which is in e commerce website. That i think wolf dot com. Yeah and walmart bought it. Of course they did. Yeah so jet dot com diapers dot. Com is what is diapers dot com. Okay founded and he's a forty nine and he's worth a billion dollars. I don't have you ever heard of jet dot com. I have yes actually. It's like a. It's i'm surprised you haven't because it's off brand amazon is what it is never heard of it. I use amazon. Thank you very much. Amazon. and google so edith. Testy with you think don't do them. It's a joe a test with me. I have heard of jet dot com. But i never heard it. I thought it was the new york. Jets dot com. No jet dot com. And he's got he's got a billion dollars because now he's got the minnesota timberwolves or at least a portion of it was the sale price. Did you see it's gotta be coming. We know why the billion one point. So he's got to be worth more than a billion dollars Just says were one billion plus no magic you spend all his money on. The timberwolves broke stupid. You're hoping that. Karl anthony towns makes your money tonight. The nets take on the timber wolves in minnesota. But they're they're going to half a roster coverage on the fan one point nine. Wfan fm wfan two dot com. No kyrie irving personal reasons. No lamarcus aldridge James harden no tyler johnson just to name a few So we'll see if the nets get the thirty seven and seventeen. After they played lousy against the lakers. On saturday in las. That game in brooklyn those game. Kyri did getty jetted. I would let the second or third quarter. I forget exactly what but he was injected on that gaming islanders. The rangers and overtime on the over time ran win under the great basin. All kinds of problems. Well i will be the next two games because they play the bruins. Eilish beat the rangers and overtime. That was the great. Sam rosen on. Msg ilias sarokin with twenty four saves the isles eighteen to and two at home. Now here was barry trotz. Pullach has been tremendous probably played as far as best. It's his best season by far for me. The way he's defendant as decision making. And all that kyle paul marion g pageau scoring the first period for the isles And so they get the win while the devils lost the penguins five two and a couple of trade trade deadline today correct had walked. Maple leafs got nick. Felino from columbus The bruins got taylor hall from buffalo and l. a. jeff. Carter to pittsburgh so a little flurry last night. All the teams in eastern conference decent division. I should say whatever they call it the honda east. Whatever the hell it is right on. And he's former titans running back. Eddie george who you in craig. Sabotage me with once in studio Was named new head coach at tennessee state. And there you go all right very good I was gonna say something about the this mark lower. And now i just my computer frozen. I can't find out. Read it each the morning. Show with boomer. Esiason and greg kelly boomer and geo fever walter. Cbs has been trying his best to Get him on the show because they do work together. That's his colleague but we're trying to get. Cbs this morning to document boomer sixty miles on his sixtieth birthday. So that's what i would like to see. I know alice. Put an email into steve hartman. We've got a couple of days. We've got all week actually really but you want him to get a camera. Crew might take a while to get a camera crew together and he does this on the road with steve hartman thing. Where he's he might be in another state documenting some other heartfelt story. He might not have time for you this weekend but if he does. We're going to make this happen because this is right up his alley and we're going to have a camera crew on every one of those miles as you go around and around and around and around the we are going to document this thing. It's gonna be on national television. And i don't know why you're not into this. I don't know why you don't think it's a big deal. You're the only one that doesn't think it's a big deal. I mean i did forty miles last year with you. And i said i mean big deal. I felt like it was a big deal. Big deal for you too much. It is you're right. That was a big deal for me when i got back home. I told my wife is remind me never do that again right well. The problem was ahead. That strong wind in my face can also had the win. That you're back when you were coming. I know but i would have rather it the other way. Let's go to pat manhattan. Yeah oh boards year. You're the two guys. I really wanna talk to what we're doing. What are you got man. Set of rules okay. How about yours. Three hundred eight boom the money thing. The money man. Three hundred forty one billion dollars shortstop. I been third saturday afternoon. Beautiful bay. what best friends. Three hundred forty one million dollars shortstop to with and nobody out decides to try to steal second base. That's those who are the entire game of lose one nothing that but but garni play when the bounds. That was the bonehead. Clay with link for a bonehead clay. Two days ago. We were talking about yesterday more. If it would have happened on sunday we probably talked about a more pat. You looking into this way too much but it was. I mean he should have never been out there scored in first any. They wouldn't have lost one. Nothing number two boomer. The yankee when tv got hurt. Mrs also geo google it. The nineteen season yeah. They had probably. John sturges the shortstop. Dan major problem at shortstop. How come they were in first place and they ended up being world series. Flavored torrence has played a good shortstop. This your pet. No we have the point your whiny voice somewhere else. Cat miami for the two years chernoff of caffeine. They're go back and google lunar team. You know what. I'm saying anything but my team does something you say something i call them and tell them oh different. Set of rules hypocrites. Melanoma god wants a monday. The keys married probably not who the hell knows Let's go to Mardi and is this leaned. Hersh new jersey or lyndon irs. What's up marty. Fell inside like this question with lighting kyri or they sure hall. I'd like to know especially boomer of being an exactly may what the definition of personal reasons is the. I don't know i marty we. We've been talking about this morning. We have no idea what this is. They don't want it to be specific angry. Boomer jess seven games in january right. The guy missed three and march going to miss his eleven game. And i guess he's getting paid to the tune of about three four million dollars but he eleven games that he's missed. Yep i mean benches the teams. Forget about the team. If you were his teammate. And you had to travel. I mean missing harden than i am missing aldridge. They're missing elegance. And i mean doesn't he have an i know he's involved in social issues and i'm being respectful when i say this. I think the guy's sharia so he needs therapy unless he's letting his teammates down and it's really and i'm not even a net but it's really not fair frustrating. It's badly for the nba. I don't know what to tell you. You and i are frustrated because we don't want to speculate could be something serious in his life. He may have somebody in his life that does cut life threatening illness or something that he's dealing with and we all know that when we dealt with it ourselves how just inconsistent your life becomes when you're dealing with those things to i don't know if that's the case. I don't know if it has something to do with him snapping the other night against the lakers. I don't know if that's tied to this but we haven't heard a word or gotten an explanation at all and the silence to me says a lot because if there was a legitimate reason as a lot of people like why is he gone again. There was a legitimate reason. It would be out there somewhere. You would think that would be but the other thing too for the brooklyn nets. It's about one thing and one thing only and that is the playoffs. I mean they're going to get their their in. We all know that. Hopefully by that time for them and their fans they'll have all their players ready to go and everybody will be locked in mentally and there'll be no reason to take personal reasons or days offer load management at that point because they just got to get to the playoffs and then ultimately if they want championship. Nobody's going to look back on this and give a crap. Yeah i think that this kyrie irving if there isn't something serious going on in his life. This is the most extreme of the player empowerment examples. That are out there where he just basically says to the team. I'm not gonna play for a couple of days. I'm going to do this. It's my father's birthday coming up to my birthday is road trips from the yet. But we don't know that. But i'm well i said if it's not a serious thing we even if it's not a serious thing then that's what i mean but you haven't heard a damn thing about it and with his track record of being involved in lots of things saying that basketball isn't just as life it makes. You wonder i'm sorry. I'm not saying definitively. I know what's going on when they don't tell us it leaves you to speculate. This guy that opted out of the bubble last year Is a guy who said he wanted to start his own league. It's the guy that's basically now taking three personal leave of absences during this season alone. So think about since he's got here. How much basketball has he played. Now when he's played he's played well of course and he's played great and looks great. But it's frustrating for fans when you realized guys are making thirty five million dollars a year and then not showing up right right now. I know i know i. You're always careful with these things because you really have no idea. It's just that he hasn't given us a reason not to speculate. And the team has an either and the second if we heard hey by the way this is what he's dealing with. This person and his life is sick. It's alright hanzel. I think everybody would be totally understanding right if you don't know and by the way one of the absence was unexcused initially Didn't coach just talk off and that that kind of also sours this whole thing but again they win a championship and they go on and they play great in the playoffs. Nobody's gonna care. Guess who's back the great one genie in new hampshire. What's up jeannie. How are you dear. i'm good i'm good. I noticed probably be selfish. But i wanted to call and let us my birth. Genie awesome happy birthday. How old are we today. How that is tremendous genius and next year. We're going to throw a big party for you for eighty happy birthday jack as we gotta go up there at the new hampshire with for your eightieth birthday. Throw a big party in person. Wouldn't that be great absolutely you doing today for you. Can you do anything. I mean you go out to restaurant or something or what. My kids are taking me out tonight. All right yeah. And i bought a new car yesterday off. Have a lease car. Thought it was time for her. You know to at least again very silo. You're in areas like me. they're genie. Yeah i what are we supposed to be headstrong. Riders were allowed people. Yeah good people. Good people i think. Yeah he get Very thoughtful and stuff like that. I'm not really into it. But i think the irish you're doing great sounds good. You have a happy birthday. Have a great day to day. Genie and call us again soon. Right okay. thank you so much guys They're happy birthday. Jack s jerry. Rice bar. I lost not jerry. I miss jerry's boys but it's eddie planning because he hates birthdays. Yeah that's that's what it comes down to. You can't even appreciate genie. Seventy nine th birthday. Not in this situation. Can you appreciate it. I mean she's seventy nine years old she calls. She watches us every day from new hampshire. She absolutely loves you. Got a new car. She wanted to share it with us at that. You're gonna make the seventy was a betting man. I'd say no okay. Say what of what's the over under what do you think. What are you hoping for. Seventy five sony to seventy really. How old is off right. Now it's seventy it's really just seventy two One hundred four turnoff. Yeah no fees if you pass at seventy two. You can't say a. He died young. You can't that's the cutoff date. Seventy two you make it to seventy two good for you and there's no like it was such a short life. None of that anything under seventy two. You could do that. What's the life is a is a solid run solid number followed. They died young now a main. Like then when you get like a genie was seventy nine. She sounds like she's with it. And everything's great. Yeah so she's in the midst of a solid run. Oh absolutely like she's she's really you know getting right now to the point where you would say that that's awesome life. Although the us male life expectancy right now seventy eight point five years so seventy two sears. Under that life expectancy al avid seventy two. Run good solomon. Chernoff is texting us. Sixty nine sixty nine nine in sixty nine. I think i thought he was older lying about my age of insane. I'm sixty nine for the last ten years. He's like one of those kids that pitches in a little league when he really sixteen and he's always supposed to be twelve danielle monte. 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S1Ep23 Sunday, December 13, 2020 Topic Discussion Part 1: You've Been Chosen By God

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S1Ep23 Sunday, December 13, 2020 Topic Discussion Part 1: You've Been Chosen By God

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They came again with a desired and they just was happy about us doing it. So much goud as good gene arrive on is in your hand and slummy. Listen thank you right now. You're listening in the name as she got stuck on the as this everybody will. They need grenier near blessed houses up this month over. You read the rebel in found. Just touch serve that. Take out from grayson. Never that each. Amy gay man probably sunny listen to jean burke basis matthews chapter eighteen twenty five mile shoot the now st joseph's name. He's big games. Were now near take unto will that which is conceived in her is amount as she shared rates. They and these names where he shared savings. People madden's roszak tweet aim at the list of allies disturbing analysis. Joseph juice for jurists blow to be his great awareness by while matthews one. Eighteen twenty five reading cooperate. News ice day from background scriptures studied less less for today's less a newborn bagasse. Fives us to wonder about tagil of life. I've the honest and the of alive exam. Mary's just in god calls the moral who out. Why aren't angel. Reassure your home homeys avni. Today is bike. Rides is by. The application christian acknowledged the jocelyn married challenges. The eyes of coal students celebrate the breath of fine stores while about jesus christ always never. Mary was his spouse just before they came together she was found with child of the home being just man and not russa's makes he's out away rounding lanes appearance dream. Saint joe's some date. You're not to take months. Weird were that which is senior votes and sheen jamboree fourteen thousand calls name gene walsh for he shall save his speaking from now. All this was done that it might be a which is of the lower rock saying no verge shelby child ship off. Assad his name man being he's with is also be raised from the sleep and bid him to him. His one lou are not to shed head rockwall. I one saw his. Name's raisel about search thing in the words of jesus the now with her crazy more and we get in this making it remember great nor in in the world were lisbeth was also also can see as well pregnant with john raise law which is a long crisis in his soccer. How a secret. Power impregnate months raised up qingguo go see got. It was built within to come down raised. Now la bourboule. Jesus on the wives as is not spouse justin for the child of all those yup johnson who roll man roll man for his leg. Raise lauded in uc teenagers. Now you grow in jail take johnson. Victory is ascension as back evening of nays of of of of the dallas out. You can get married at the age of sixteen praise joseph. This was a distant manage designs already or day but at the same time joseph they know man was okay. Praying by jose reyes man. Joseph r muslim being a just man he will say raise to make her a public apples lines her way bradley. This is how we know brings nor somebody fall off the vets. Forestay up you say on new day was out. I in i mean just what you do is now. I mean just only shining crazy more. I know what the scriptures say when it comes to dupree's law. We don't do that. you praise. It hasn't been a church or something like that but if you see a robo since the fall whereas you know sitting up there and make a bad problem with you don't enjoy were you also did not want everybody. Book will praise because they. Mary was being vegas-style to death law. He wanted to lead adultery or a man. I'm a split raw. They definitely go back for one day. She will be sabadell raisel the well why he thought on these things hold as of appeared to him in a dream saying joseph now not take onto the married. I what was averages concede inver is the only those joseph was. John is all do his cleveland. No she's bragging. He tossed her linus. Raise the angle have gotten check. Did see louis. We know we can't barely stuff by ourselves. The long stepping his step. In in. Joe also i just imagined fleet frizz let that be somebody loughry find out. Praise somebody at break me. I ain't gonna problems over all that famous nair in all you know they still. You ate that they they just do that. This china shine along with. Look at yourself. When amanda do whatever they want they take this all year being this were one woman like she never existed related to something like that raise laurel. You know we look at how the moorehead's talk to joe else. Talk to us playing gun on this young man of you you the big west one thing. Joe of lying about nothing. You sister teak. I mean any would have had hesitation about marion her because he who just like me i. It ain't my child and you know. I'm i'm gonna put her way privately. I mean she she. She got to go because i don't know what she talking about. Because i had no sex with it so now that there'd be no that she wouldn't version that's what he that's what he was taking. I mean think about that. You think own-goal until a bunch of people. I'm getting getting married and this is my child. Ain't testers lady know what this lady been doing you. I'm just trying to tell us. Joseph was thinking that is not my child here. This woman is chairing the greatest chow ever born in the world. As long as you know you have this lost beyond date laws. It's not mickey somebody all you got some good men out there. They were raise. That's not his raise. Just go to praise the lord. He now i'll say. I always heard if you made in your child. You their keys you married. How lord and they'll winning was would lack. These cells went to lie to me one man. John may have. He obeys of the batman do child. And he's just while you do for you with me baby girl head only read. Something does it. The lesson the book imagine this called the jewish gospel because it is intended audience is jewish. It is really an old testament prophecy related to the common king through the lead of king. David the first chapter mad do presents jesus rule of family describing his describing his kingly lines and rifle plays as here to david's throne. His legal inheritance is through joseh. Jesus earthly father. Jesus linda's through the he has the right to be called. The king of the jews jesus conceived by the holy spirit which give him the right to be called the son of god. He's fully god and fully human. Here's the living word who came down from heaven was closed in human flesh and the whale amongst people. His his is virgin. Birth fulfill the prophecies utterance of isaiah the sends incentives and divine nature of. Jesus makes him the only man capable of sharing sharing his sacred blood on the cross to become the final atonement for rcn. He was as you as we read. The legacy did last less populated. Look when he come from agra no rizal this is wrong. he's that he is reading here. We rebound and you. We look at that. We have as much as riots than e by raise because his rule air brings you and i was reading sprays guy you know how i look at joseph because he was the man that was willing to take on. Alleged child raised after eight. Talk to mike. My six eight away taking nobody else jar shoes this that or this war. He ain't michael says someone will sit there war amps. Joseph choose not to do that grains anybody else must be. Questions are we. Doing questions can get day wines. Four and fine. Let's start with three. Why angel address. Jota as the son of david question clans question. Three arman degraded ringing. Why be dressed you buy near you stabbing somebody else do it. I don't want to answer right. 'cause i walk see the money up. I'll come in anybody. Wanna take a very. Joseph was reminded of his lineage to where he came from and what was his lineage to the messiah. That's the way it goes. A david wohl right drew me. Yeah worded angel address. Joseph son of david. I said he because he would remind joseph of his lineage. To the messiah anybody else before missionary sneak by radios s. Drew as you read. I think it's a matthew. Excuse us how jesus is. Blood came down. The line. vacuous young. Jesse jesse right so we started actually talk about jesus we look at okay although he goes all the way. Back to adam lenny. You'll find shelter. Has the red blood line in. His family davis bloods. I remember wasn't man. Africa has a heart. God love love guy. Sitting forgive forgave him. A man shows great. Jesus down line so look good. Lanier's you'll see where they they will was joseph's probably great great great grandfather something like that. That's the line he wanted to try the jude come through. That's the line now is attitude of alad drives and as joe's of the father. Mary was just a wonderful young lady. Innocent virgin willing to believe guy and -opoly had to be frightful. 'cause we pack the light of owl Joe's veges his desires her think about mary. We're working year. Old girl and fast bill was innocent of the lions tigers and bears of this world. Good stuff all of that stuff. We were we were. We were really innocent. We were just coming out. We are paris for the most part it a lot to protect that stuff from us the same all of the sudden. This angel comes a forty year old saying that angel kate to that. Was you know what i'm saying. Her and angel told her what was going on. Now soul is thank the angels team. 'cause i'm sure she goes as she had to believe them. But that's gonna be an extremely scary thing ago through. Alibi does something so yes. That's why so. He got kicked her because she had the perfect innocent vessel takes because he knew the guys lead line of holy spirit was doing down. So yeah so. That's why but you know a teacher when this year missionary. I started her conversation. She said something in there that i hope that we would have caught. She says that. Even though david get a lot of san his bloodline steel was picked. That let us know that. Wouldn't we didn't get in this to get perfect. We get this to learn to mature someday. The missed like that. Jesus deal came through because plan first of all his own plan. Even though game mess. Up in davis suffer consequences baby dying suffer consequences because he couldn't build the temple so unfortunately we have to pay for those guys still loved him in his place talking to him again. And then wait because like you said vision hearing all all that mild in back in the day somebody just a fourteen year old. Damus can't tell mommy and daddy as a moment. Daddy was not believable. Some you know not bring law now where he wants a yellow as you. Don't log you wisdom. you'll you big name wrong. And that's why i give the saudis mail. The all too low didn't roll longer than a child. So natalie leg yes. Yes yes now. We're going to question five. Why is joe subsidy instructive. What do we learn. It's all about is. I said earlier in the must changes jobs. Goes you donal. Mary raynes long lost her set in antonio what must be done. Joseph didn't say a word he got. It is say nothing. Would you guys say. Tell us something to do. Get the compliance laura. I don't know i do this. Low allow us. This comment me is were does lied. donate ross. Hoping da was he the son. He's not gonna learn how to just be quite. He's raised you. Can i sit there and john as on your home. I'm talking to you up. Yes seems and they're not saying we're just obeyed he manny but that's why sometimes we have to pay attention to our dreams because when god sent us a dream we know the difference between a dream in vision. 'cause sometimes you know. Even when i started this journey. I can remember. It was a sunday morning. I was a deacon but it was a sunday morning and woke up now. we're back to sleep. Her small still voice and is said to me. I have called you into the ministry. Wait on your ministry. And i woke up. I said what Heck so here. I am sitting there and a wife walked in the room. She said what's the matter with you all sitting. She like you seen a ghost. And i totally would. It happen. Toler acid said. I'm i'm not. I'm not i'm no. I ain't nobody this and she should. That's between you and god you know. I would like to get no help that way. So i deal. I picked the phone. Call the pastor and his wife acid that was mother louis and she's hey how you doing mother lewis told her what happened. She's the hold on all he go past and i told louis he started laughing. I said why are you laughing past. He said because the lord had told him one of his sons was coming to him. That was caught. I didn't know it was me. I you know when he said that he. He said he already knew but he didn't know who was right in here. I am a dole you and got nowhere. I came running high. Sometimes i feel like it didn't run in and run. Y'all be looking for me man. He go away. That's left run but you can't you can't hide from the lower once he once he called you to do a thing you have to do it. You know he called me on jeremiah. Praise the lord and was there with a war deal. I ran i do. I'll tell my wife. I says the digits so since the teacher you to of your license and you stuck you to but you ain't too. I came came in turn raised low on him. I can remember walking in jesus. Is the way up to ten thin. I'll ask questions. Raised to make loss of reserves. He said you need listeners. A change the sunday school to have moved to stay out a bible stock and she would ask wise while not no beginning. Praise neckers dog the us and okay. Yup he called me up there. I couldn't work so you your games going be saying try to you just need despite you just john check out this and we all have we all have a testimony or some personal in our life that we know that god intervened with now. I remember when god calling me the pastor. And i was in the living room in brinda walk from the garage with web shit been and she looked at me and i was just pacing the floor i said the lord call me the past it was down in my belly and i couldn't figure out and i said i know i'm i'm not to do that until lower lower. I know how to do not a you know the name of it. He said go up and get their car. You gotta there. When i was advantage in the carson. Jesus the way he said. That's the name of the ministry. I said what the tobin let's go. We jumped the covid day we ran. We ran down alter. I said i ain't gonna do this. I can't do this so we got down here was in a revival and he told me i didn't come here to go to church. I can't get away from the judge. I promise you and he said okay. I didn't win tonight. I go thirty nights. And he came. Lisa coleman he said this is the last night. Come on come on just go to last night and i looked at bryn so we got ready. We went in the may appreciate we got we got. We got got all the service demand in his closing. Looks over at me and looked at brenda and says to me. The lower has called you to do work. Look at here. Not here's what killers man. What you said is men you tell that in the man say guys said is going to be bigger than what you think so then we got back. I did did you system. Do they mean that may komen. He said he's a promise you. I said i ran all the way down in the lowest dealing. According to me. I said while while i'll give i love thang. The will but at least i didn't take six weeks the up the us in the please not guys on me. It was totally totally different. Komo shoe i just. I'm telling you. I just got extremely frightened because i have supernatural experience. A real one. I my sister was saying and i was hurt other transportation and taken aback greater west to less that because we was she started overrun Mount vernon and seeing lead being flyer so the driver back and forth. But i was still doing my thing. I was a big about it but my sister came to live with me. She was saved on having is watching my baby and she called make well the night before she communist talk. She had a really strange dreams. She said i dreamt that i went down the hill. And i'm like oh that's just a drain. Don't worry about it. You got so the next morning. Ask going to work. I kept pounding on the door pounding on a door the door so i start kicking the door and when she came to the door. Y'all see her. Fear was not in her body. A demon was in her by the door as he had his little brat center. He looked like the medusa and her whole. I was black. It is the any white her hall. I was as no one. I looked at august scare the screen. An attorney muscle and we're down the steps. That's when she came back to be back into their body only senate. He's screaming for her fine. Get the baby you're gonna be late. I s she's always just add to that same thing again and i'll tell you guys a whole store. Maybe bible study. I wanna take up too much time. But what happened was she didn't have a vision. Her by her sphere was gone. Deeming field dessel. Because you can't be without us. Theories are soul because by by right so something feels by. Your fear has overtaken and now as he's only that the lord.'. And everything and how. He told her to handle all vegas me he he told me with the lord had told her and how she was able to come back to earth because he wanted to know if he was you know because he was he was saying glad. Evidently the enemy was trying to infiltrate your life and this was his way of getting. Do you really love me. Do you want to follow me or do you want to stay here with this cat. And so she says she tired because he will right behind. Her spirit was and his business. I wanna go with you. Say you're down into the belly. And so must see. Says he came. After arriving whole thing. Was it too much for me. Not feel very crafty. It was very it was real. It was real. That's when i realized his whole thing is real loose about seven bibles and went to sleep one on one door but i to work out. That's when the lord. He urged testimony. Pray for us and say that night. I got the holy lowly experience until it new year's saying he scared me as he said he just pulled the cover office. Says this is is. This stuff is real. There is a natural area there. Are these things together so you can go on a walk by the people that's right and that's what it was like twenty three years old. So wow was another. Gonna hannah halloween. How can you hear me. yeah highly. Thank you teases. Nevada pastor date you. Could you know how you hear. He something and it's not your raw. You didn't do anything but you are. just made. Put the clarification on it. When you said that pastor said some passer passer did he say anything to that pastor and he said no and this is what made me cry. Because the clarification. I've done or saying nothing wall and i just want to say thank you. God will give me clarification. Carry that any more mike. I hope i got these application. And i'll say you are you the little lou aalyah thank you thank you thank you got some. You've got some said okay okay. How loose snaring experience with the now. My team swells like maybe i'll just or lord and thousand interesting interesting saving. You won't get you on the sand. You know what. I mean you read your right real and you cannot wait. The is was not as clean. You run lit. You're seeing seeing. Allow for another dry eddie ray in the word as long as raised several with you cannot in on a valuable. I just wanted to weigh in on the sunday. School lesson it is. The guy is called before birch right. So god has called each one of us before birth ma before you put us in model when it was it was the role that we have to take to get to where we are now. They are living a lifestyle of a lesbian third. Almost years you'll know the had already knew. 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Kickin off the 2010's best Blue Jays bracket!!

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Kickin off the 2010's best Blue Jays bracket!!

"Happy Monday evening JAS fans. It is Brendan Hanna. Car in the driver's seat tonight with Craig Gordon from Rochester. New York Craig. How you hold not man. We're supposed to be the the Blue Jays at the Philadelphia phillies. Tonight's now reignited. Nineteen ninety-three rivalry but And it'll be fun trying to force down our throats every year league on that had to go. I'll just bring up that rivalry in my year. Twenty twenty-five on my Mo via the show that was the world series matchup and just to say Vladi and bow were epoch in that world series. Well if you're twenty twenty five in your LV show. Craig where are both glad and bowl overall rating scales right now It'll be the show so I can't say well. As far as overall they're both ninety nine overall AIDS. And that's not me tweak. In or anything that's full on just letting the player development stuff do what it does in the simulated franchise mode and the fact that Bo is a world series. Mvp and that whole thing and seventy games and twenty twenty-five wall still manages to get seventy RBI's in that season this shows you how ridiculous my lineup might be cabin doing having VCR cabinet visual greedy even quite somewhere else brought up. I brought up through the minors and under second Baseman in wasn't Kevin Smith so. Listen anybody that we would know. February visa created guys. Right created guys. Let's just put it in perspective in the year. Two Thousand Twenty in my show. I had the opportunity to trade for Matt Chapman. So I traded Jorg Roshan's and and company to bolster my Infield to pushing the Ladimir Guerrero junior to first base role basic. Basically what you're saying is this year or maybe let's say next year for the purpose of this added a full baseball season we're GONNA see into the Donald Trade by getting Matt Chapman. You're trying to what I saw him and I really enjoyed it. And that Shatman is a based Elsa people appreciate Matt Chapman Enough Around Baseball. This kind of like Donaldson back. They were came out of nowhere. He was snubbed at all star in two thousand fourteen and twenty thirteen craig. I on liking the prospects of what you're bringing up here. I'm getting excited about that happened now. Maybe we should keep radars. Remember that whole show. We were talking about training for Nolan. Aaron Otto. Yeah this whole thing could go just the same way with wrote thrown a few guys at the Oakland A.'s. Just like this and getting somebody like match happened on ridiculously cheap deal for a few years and I ended up ripping his contract at a steep cliff but worth every penny of it. Basically I just. I'm just saying right. Yeah just a little bit of a hiatus or the end of the Donaldson era here. Real life to the virtual reality of heavy Matt Chapman as a Blue Jay and bringing back to L. A. Plus Defense with the bat. That's the catch. Oh yeah that's a guy that's just like Donaldson if you put them in the right Ballpark GonNa Mash. Forty home runs and Chapman seen pop to be playing in all those giant air. Al West ballparks man. That's that's a heck of a deal to bring all that but like I said I had to give up plenty to give him. I gave up Jordan Roshan's to other high end prospects to get him in eight bought. I if I have somebody like Matt Chapman. What would I do with your emotions? Yeah but I got a major league ready player out of the deal and then two years later. In the franchise thing I happen to check in on match during Roshan's who won the twenty twenty two rookie of the year award Jordan Grisham last That's too funny. If that actually happens that would be exciting. And you don't want very similar to that No one ever not a discussion. Yes I would give up George Grosz and that's Matt traveling for the next three so just tell everybody knows who's listening. I vaguely bolted agreement. That that wouldn't happen curious. What the third member of our team was unable to join US tonight. I think on that he I think he made agree strange. Okay with it. I do correct. We've got Some fun coming up over the next few weeks for our listeners and hopefully growing our twitter feed a little bit. Kinda store in an idea from somebody who I used to write with a CFL. Yes Canadian Football League website just a few seasons ago. I believe it was twenty eighteen but Craig over the last month in putting out the best CFL players twenty ten brackets so I figured. Why don't we do the exact same over the month of April and into may of the Best Bluejays of twenty ten and feed them one through sixteen on either side of the bracket? So Craig we have. Sixteen starters. Sixteen relievers sixteen infielders and sixteen outfielders. That we will be discussing tonight where we have seen it then and the end goal is to create a master bracket which we will put out on our twitter feed in an individual polls have our listeners and other people who discover our show in the Straw says vote on it to ultimately determine but we as best player in two thousand ten. Are you ready for this? I am honestly. I'm very intrigued. Interested to see how our fans are going to interact with this whole thing because it is going to be a fun thing so we're going to be posting a couple of polls so we're not gonna be doing all the brackets at once. Brennan but the Nice fact that we'll be able to dust these through over the next few weeks and have a nice conversation with everybody. I think it's going to be a fun time. And we're going to have to probably even touch on these. How how these are going over the next few weeks but absolutely it's GonNa be fun to get everything going and see what everybody's opinions I because I thought it was rather ironic and funny that you and I are have had it's GonNa lead to a nice conversation having a few differences in our layouts and how we seated each one of these guys as we you know. Shake the tree here at C. Falls out of it. Absolutely it'll be interesting to see are definitely the based have some fun little conversations about where we put them. Craig who do you? Who should we introduce to the audience? I in terms of the sixteen. I figured we'll go through each category and just let our listeners. Know what's sixteen made the cut now so people know this is made by me. All succeeded chosen by me on a basis of the top. Sixteen in each category of starters relievers infielders in the fielders by F- floor so according to fan graphs went up total. Dial Up. Where would you like to start Sarah in tens of announcing? Who's made the top sixtieth reached category? I'M GONNA pitching state of mind. I don't know why is on watching nothing but pitching and John. My two hundred feet so far But I just think that this one honestly is the closest of all these groups. I two so four people to know this. It is listed all about to read out the fifteen and made it as not seeded. It's not anything once we introduce it. We'll get into our feeding so craig under the stars list to be have Brandon Moral Ricky Romero Shaun Marcum J. hop mark burleigh drew Hudson. Ra dickey Marcus. Stroman David Price. Marco Estrada Aaron Sanchez. Trent Thornton Ryan Baraki Francisco. Lear Yano Henderson Alvarez Carlos Villanueva who basically was a swing man for two years here With the Toronto Blue Jays were there any surprises. When you saw that list initially sent over by me intrinsically made talk sixteen before we get into our seeding on the other side other than the fact that I thought our position was a lot better over the last few years. No nothing too crazy But it just goes to show you. How good pitchers we've had over the last decade trial Bluejays Jays. Nothing crazy standout over Roy halladay level but the fact that there has been somebody very consistent and it's usually a group of guys it's not individuals running away with it. I just thought even when you go back to the years of Ricky Romero and everything. It wasn't just him. It was it was Shaun. Marcum and company jump jumping in that Brennan Mon- Miro on partially did not stay healthy enough but still was an epic pitcher when he was healthy. So it's good stuff. I just I honestly. I think this is a great idea what you stumbled across on twitter to keep moving around with our fans and the fact that you and I are already going to have some good talks about where we see. I guess the question is. Where do you want to attack this? I think question I thinking now I wonder if we start with their one six and then moved to to fifteen so on and so forth because Craig as you get closer to the seeds where he gets five twelve six eleven seven pans and eight nine. We're going to be some very interesting results to see so I can kick off the one sixteen see that. I have decided to put together on my end. And then they'll reveal yours Kagan the number one seed in a starter side of the bracket. I have put Marcus Stroman. Yes I do believe that Marcus Stroman has been the Blue Jays best starter that they've had maybe not in terms of overall performance from the from the time that they've been here because David price is probably the best that they've had but we've only had David price for half a season and a bit of a playoff run. The Marcus stroman homegrown come came up in twenty fourteen and it's a reliever took over as a starter. He had that maddox that he threw against the Chicago cubs in twenty fourteen. It's first season and then just the whole story. I got the ACL tear And coming back for playoffs and pitching four games in the regular season the only drawback to strom in that I can think of which wasn't a strong enough one to put anybody above him in. My mind was the fact that he was able to successfully all actually the only drawback sorry was the fact that he was a little bit up and down throughout the course of his career. Where twenty is pretty incredible took a bit of a step back in two thousand sixteen and twenty seventeen evens grays two thousand eighteen with injuries. And then he was off to a good start in twenty nineteen before being shipped to the mets. But yes I have marcus. Stroman up against the sixteenth seed Henderson Alvarez who had one good season with the blue jays before being part of that Marlins Trade Craig. What is the one verse. Sixteen match up my one verse. Sixteen match up Or is it easier if you bring up the matchup you had? I'll tell you where I ranked the people. That's a good point because the first thing that you have there I'm I'm contesting a little bit. Bring it on bring it on attack and how you wish so. I think that would be a nice way doing and I want to step on how you want. Just figure it otherwise. It's going to be talking about two different matchups unless that's how you yes. Yeah yeah debate. Debate away so come with a rebuttal and reveal your match up at the end. Okay so I had Marcus Stroman in my fourth spot. A few other gentlemen that are I would say are a little bit more consistent in their tenure with the Blue Jays and I think a lot of that is like you said I have him ranked that low because he is very swinging ups and down and I'm not saying that because he's always up or down with his actual mentality and mood so I had him at like I said my fourth seed but I had J. Hap- as my number one see all lovely saw reason. They chose Jay hat to be my number one seed regardless that he is I part of the Blue Jays stint with us. He was not great but he wasn't horrid either then he was literally our. Best Pitcher Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen or at least most consistent guy and he continued to be that throughout the second tenure withdraw bluejays and. I just have trouble putting anybody above him in that situation so my sixteen slot. I had to give it to Ryan Baraki. Because they're just has not been enough sample size for me to think anybody else. Carlos Villa like you said Yeah. It was a little bit there. And there and same thing with hunters Alvarez yet one real good season I just couldn't. I felt like those guys having a one full good season ranked them above Baraki absolutely. I can't say I disagree with any of your rationale for your number one key. I I do love myself. Some J. Craig Especially the fact that he had a little bit of a redemption tour the fact that its first years here you know that. He said he was He was okay. There is pretty bad outy. There's a pretty rough ones where he struggled mightily to get through five innings because he just went so inconsistent around the plate but the fact that he came back twenty game winner Starting Game. Two of each playoff series. I told you so much about him. But yeah that's That's where I had J. have come in at the second seat. Greg I have a right behind mark. Stroman in my to fifteen matchup for the same reason he did I had half in that slot. I just couldn't think to put them ahead of Marcus stroman because I think at their height stroman may have been a little bit better in marketing but Pretty much everything that you just said I had Jay Lake the second best pitcher Over the course of the twenty ten for the Blue Jays up against Carlos wave up in my fifteen slot. Did you have it to fifty two and fifteen and this is where everybody's GonNa probably either love or hate me. I had Ricky Romero as the second best blue Jays pitcher and I think that is purely by the fact that I this guy fell off a cliff it was. He was literally one of the best pitchers in the American league. One year started falling and sliding down the hillside and then became one of the worst guys in pitching for the travelers and couldn't even keep his job. But before that though before that like I said just ridiculous downturn they were talking about him being the next best pitcher in the American League period like this is like the Blue Jays thinking they had roy Halladay all over again. That's how good he was right. And in the midst of that conversation I had to rank them that high because he was that consistent for a few years and that's how I made more. Am I deciding votes on these things? How long were they good for the Toronto Blue Jays? Out of those guys that you just enlisted. And then I had him against Carlos Villanueva so we already I Carlos really the the fifteenth seed. They only because you know. I think the reason why didn't play. Carlos will the wave in the fifteen secrets because and I did factory in a little bit of Villanueva tenure as a reliever where he was able to come in and clean them up message by that stretch that low still V. His name come up on my He had a really good stretch as a starter when he entered the rotation because of injuries so that little stretch there was enough to make me as it's fifteen hundred unanimous on the fifteenth seed lull. It'll be interesting to see where we get unanimous so I'm not GonNa star that in my bracket or making different colored to be unanimous seating so that will probably be where he will fall when we raise the monster bracket for our bluejays Top Player of the twenty tens decade so to recap stroman one Henderson Alvarez. Sixteen when you had J. Hat number one and Ryan Sixteen. We both have known away the fifty and I have to you have Ricky Romero under four. So Craig Moving. Along the three verse. Fourteen Matra who do you have lead us off matchup and then I'll debate you back. Reveal Mind Okay I actually have Shaun. Marcum is the Third Guy i Francisco leary ANA and I did. I love the fact that regardless of whatever was going on on the field was Shaun Marcum. He found a way to grind out victories. He was very consistent regardless of what trouble he got into are not and he did that for an extended amount of time. And that's why I threw him into this level because he just had such a good consistent time in a blue uniform throughout the decade. Yeah then leary auto AH I. I will tell you right now. When you find out where APPs on Markham it might be a bit of a surprise for you even though I loved Shaun Marcum. I'm won't reveal where album but it is. We are very different on that. So I'll be interested to get your reaction when I get to ask him. I'm very very similar on Francisco. Lear Yano we'll get to is seated market Estrada in three spot going up against Ryan directly in the fourteenth spots were similar in terms of where we see them on our polls but yes. I have a straw as number three in you know Estrada Kinda like Jay which is why how to Strana so high Is because I had a little bit at a reduction to or maybe not as much as Jay hat but I remember when he was treated for and they gave up out of wins the reaction by the fans. And it's like Oh brace sky better not see the starting he'd better not see the rotation In going out there in the first inning because this guy was just coming off of the season I believe he gave forty something home runs with. The Milwaukee brewers. It was something crazy like somebody's hiding under. So I've ever been very scared of Estrada. Craig I haven't so high. I remember three a lot of it has to do with the postseason and just in terms of how he was a dominant dominant starter in the playoffs to the Blue Jays. Even more so I would say from the half season they had David price in the playoffs. And you call them up. Marcus Marcus throttle with Bell. More dominant than David Trist. And that's why I waited that quite heavily in terms of giving them a three seed in our starters bracket here. Correct me if I'm wrong. But didn't he actually lead the league in opposing batting? Average in two thousand fifteen. I believe you're right. It was either. Twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. But you are. We have one of those years. Because everybody's like where the hell this guy come from that kind of that I agree with you. I Have Marco Strada going in my next so no sorry. I take that back. I had him down a little ways. I had him down in my like seven spot and that was not because of anything bad or anything. I just thought the other guys that were headed him like I said came down to longer extended periods of greatness. So that's kind of where I had some of those excellent albeit where you have seeded sure as we move off. So it's great so Ricky Romero from me. Craig came in at number four. So we're not too far off on Ricky Romero the pretty high seats As you said in a lot of the rationale for you giving him what use your number two number TC All very similar for me putting number four when we were just debating before we started recording or Ricky Romero Was One hundred percent on a four in twenty eleven. When he was named an all-star replacement there is a case to be made that season that Makir narrow was the best left handed started in the division. And I don't say that lightly because there is other good lefties there Craig David Price with raisins. He's with the Yankees. So that's why I give it a number four. As you mentioned that you could fall off a cliff rather quickly in twenty twelve. Unfortunately recurrent knee issues that he was dealing with Really caught up to them in twenty twelve and he just fell off a cliff but I have gone up in my thirteen against Thornton. They had a fantastic rookie season For the Blue Jays in twenty nineteen all the starts. I didn't WANNA give any lowering nap but also not only hired not considering. It was just a one-year sample size for trump thorton. Where do you have your four thirteen magic? My former thirteen. I Have Marcus. Stroman rescinded Alvarez. Okay so we're similar on Alvarez but then the fact that I'm a little few spots below on stroman like I said I just honestly I ranked Alvarez highs. I did just because of the fact that he had one year he was insane. Yeah for that literally came out of nowhere very similar to the Marco Strada Guy Tyke type of thing and the fact that we did turn around there around and flip them in that giant trade then he actually pitched a no hitter with the marlins. See if I'm correct but even that's not part of my math on this but that was the trending up part of Henderson Alvarez and you could see that in that one season that there was something good coming and if he didn't get hurt honestly probably been a main fixture in Miami. Yep Absolutely. I don't disagree that so. We are very similar in a lot of our top stories and sorry for the noise in the background. The dishwasher and sitting out was not too far often quite a few of these so far some interesting as we keep on going along where major differences are kind of ready Craig where is your five and twelve matchup going for you on your side? So I'm just missing where you had Trent Thornton but I I. He was on my low side of this matchup with our against our I dickie. Okay okay so I chose dickey this high because of the fact that he honestly I don't know why he didn't pitch it all in the twenty fifteen playoffs. He had a good season. And it'll be ran out of gas or what it was but he was a lot better than I think people give him credit for when he was with the Blue Jays yes. It wasn't a CY young award winner. You know year that we traded for and yeah could be arguments that the knuckleball doesn't fly as well in the Dome with no wind behind it. It could be a lot of things but I just really think for what the Blue Jays traded for and that at the time it was the right thing and he did live up to his part of the bargain. He was never going to be young award winner again. That was pure fluke. Everybody needed to get over that really quickly. Yeah disagree but then I had Trent Thornton up that little extra from where you were. Actually actually. I'm the opposite right. You had them as your first seed or in the matchup. You had them in right. Can you had him as your top seed in the matchup had Thorndon Shoe here teaming with Romero afford it was okay. So we're close on that one and I the I I can't say enough good things about trend after the season and he's I think he's only going to get better. Yeah I agree. A reasons. Often once he'd where we slotted trend Thorton in their craig my fibers twelve. I Have Brandon Malraux number. Five against Francisco Leery on all at twelve. So we're not that far off on. Riano be interesting to see. You have brannon moral rings. I is mainly because the one season that he actually I think may twenty eighth and stay quite healthy. He was really good That one season. There's you know what I think I've realized on this listeners. Starters is that there is some starters who had incredible stretches of one season and maybe one and a half two seasons Reliever part of this portion though I salute a few of them did absolutely Into some of their stretches on a lot I I'm more five. Talent was always there. I loved him. Sediba by five raking is a little bit of bias. taking in My first of the new version of the jerseys that they're currently wearing Was Brandon Moral So actually I had. Their talent was crazy. That one year that he did say relatively healthy With incredible Announcing I believe it was. Yeah absolutely and that was evident by his seventeen. Shakeup game Back in any kind of beliefs. Yeah One hitter came down to the end and Longoria beat him out. And then Leery on with twelve probably for similar reasons to you He had okay. Twenty Fifth Two Thousand. Sixteen when he came in here and then the back half Up Twenty seventeen was Not very good before he got traded. So they was. I'd okay twenty sixteen three regional. He played a big part in that wildcard game and twenty six. Anything down the stretch There's a few good leary starts but twenty seventeen with a little bit of a cliff. But I didn't WANNA penalize them too much for Twenty seventeen so much but yes very similar So far it took the where we have a lot of these guys now. Too Far off so my matchup was price. Verse Drew Hutchinson Old for The fixtures eleven Iraq also. We have another unanimous. Craig Bohl so little star David Price. You had a lot higher I do. I do have lower than you. I haven't so high is yes. It was a small sample size but dear God a basically inherit betrays guy that could have won the Cy Young Award on his second. Half performance period. Yeah absolutely even as a stretch where the train them and get the dyers. Us busy very well for Detroit that your category Dan. They're God but yeah and then I I am drew. Hutchinson where I have him. Because he's the forgotten man you know. He did really well for us when we needed somebody else. Just to step up and do something. I would've never wanted to hand him another opening day. Start by the fact that when Chips fell down to the point where we need. We need somebody to. Chew up innings. He did a good job of salvaging that for us the very similar reasons as why have about eleven as well then fat people forget that he was the opening day starter towards fifteen this season that this team should have won the world series Now that's not his fault Is quite good honor for much syndicate the opening day? Very stroman mentality al. And the fact that they wanted R a dickey to not start on the road outdoors in cold weather unbelievably rationale for not being Dickie. So how'd you really good in twenty fourteen to greg kind of going back to that pattern that we've seen a lot of one hit wonders where people were staying healthy for one year and we're really good and off a cliff to twenty? Fourteen was really good. I believe he was worth three. Wins that season where he muffed a lot? A amassed a lot of value so What's that is very similar to. What Trenton Thornton did this year when you drew Hodgson? Didn't Tofu two thousand fourteen. So Trent Thornton like I said I think he earned a spot last year on this rotation. So it'll be interesting to see if he ends up following that same older not. Yeah I I hope. I hope he does better than drew except as far as weird tangents. I thought that was kind of ironic that they both followed that same kind of mold absolutely started their careers started greatness on the other so you had a lesbian David. Pray six your six. I have a lefty at number six and it marked early I have coming in at number six Mark Dooley is twenty. Thirteen wasn't so much like mark thoroughly but once he got some into Toronto he came back for Twenty Fourteen and twenty fifteen out mark. Daly is always very consistent. He was hitting two hundred innings. You knew you were going to get marked early. And the reason has been so high is because of his consistency this other than twenty thirteen where he was a little bit off the rest of his tenure once he got settled in Toronto Mark Ellias. Pretty Damn Good. And he was a big reason why the two thousand fifteen team stayed afloat With a suspect rotation at the beginning of it barely Was One of my personal favorites from the twenty fifteen team even before that so much so craig did not do this on purpose. But for the first eight starts For the first eight games in two thousand fourteen all of them were mark thoroughly starts plan like a week or two in advance before being like I know. I'm going to the game a week or two. Now let's see how the matchup sick down and every time it's mark fairly so I got to see a lot of him here. The Blue Jay all man so yeah. I actually had burly at my turn saw. It was hard to put them down that low. When you talk about the guys I had next. I think you'll see why I ended up having in that Mike turn all right so x one. Then maybe the next seven versus ten. I had Marco Estrada overs Aaron Sanchez. Ooh That's a good one for people voted for various reasons. To because obviously Marco Strato is the other end of the spectrum from where Sanchez's yeah pure fanatics insane stuff but very small consistent window of good. That's Kinda why I had them both in the same thing as you can really boil them both down into two or three good seasons for various different reasons. Absolutely and Sorry who was the old Rice Marco Estrada was your seven Aaron Sanchez. Plus your ten. I'm not far off on Sanchez. He's not in this ranking for me on this side I have. Ra Dicky at seven against David Price at ten Penalized price quite heavily In my seating oven just because it was only half a season And I also penalized and heavily Craig because He. The playoffs demons just continued for David Price. When he was with the Blue Jays. The fact that he couldn't get a postseason win. I will give him credit his start against Kansas City in game. Six Was really good even though they lost but even a start against Kansas City in game two where he was absolutely cruising and looking like ace. Ace Ace David. Price Until bat miscommunication Shala rightfielder to go back. East Greenwich it also I realize you had some good starts in the past with the race and those ones you just mentioned with the Blue Jays affected just couldn't get it done and deliver a key. W Game Two and not get out of that jam And then the two home runs early in game. Six is why penalize price so heavily and put them at ten but I also wanted to create some injury because of interesting to see how people perceive R a dickey ten years. The Blue Jay Because I agree with you in terms of the fact that Dickie was on barely criticized by the fan base. Extremely unfairly criticized. I WanNa see where people will lead on that with Dickie versus price at seven ten matchup just for seventy treat two hundred innings each eared me. He did all of his years here at the weekend. Books too so who just to throw it out there. The guy that came closest to two hundred. This past year was fifty. And so that's a lot of innings for somebody. You can't be shitty and stand out there for that many innings this season just saying I will also say I don't know if we're going to have it. Two hundred innings started relates. Even if there's one hundred or something game with a full season I don't know if anybody in the current subjected dictatorships it's GonNa go Leonard Real. He's never been over one hundred and eighty correct. You have to leave other than its preceding here with the dodgers In North America. They actually you met the right. I'm not even sure if you've ever hit two hundred by one mostly. I was last season last year. He stayed healthy. You get out there. They were careful With real by Ya two hundred innings and something that I don't think we're GONNA see for another year or two so we're going to go around the turn here we're GONNA go around the turn of the eight verse nine nachos which should have intrigued with voters. This all gets seated in the master. Bracketed created Craig I have Aaron Sanchez. Coming in at number eight So not too far away from your seating In Ten And then Sean Morrison have and do a number nine because despite Markan being really good in the opening day guy in two thousand ten The fact that he was traded later that offseason for Brett Lawrie was part of the reason. I T realize Martin and put him in the ninth seed Punished him for all the red bull drinking. That happened in the future. As I wanNA spend for that. Yeah but You had the fact that I tried to not take much of the previous decade into effect. Markham got injured but he also was really good when he came up his rookie I didn't take too much of that into consideration. Maybe a bit But yeah the one part of this decade that he was here he was really good but I also wanted to create from intrigued by seating him. Up Against Aaron Sanchez had again following the theme really incredible one season and then fall off a quick with injuries and stuff. Yeah and that's exactly what happened. But the fact that Sanchez is just L- godly stuff. But like we just saw last year even after he got traded. It's like yeah. Oh by the way he's hurt again so and that was unfortunately part is Sean Markham's problems too. For as much of a dog he was. He didn't stay out there to really see the whole thing. Come together completely you signing a couple of good full seasons. But then it's like Oh my God. I can't stay out there. So my final turn was Brandon Morrow vers Mark Burleigh. So that's GONNA come down free guy. That's if he had a few more good seasons mark burleigh could have been a conversation for cooperstown with how good he was. And that Brandon Morrow he's really salvage disease is a career here in the bullpen. There's really emphasize the ridiculous amount of talent that he has. If he is healthy he is easily one of the best guys out there. But that would be the key part. He could not stay healthy in Toronto. Because I think they're a lot more of those one hitter seventeenth strikeout games if he could have actually stayed out there. Oh Yeah we see in various theories a few really good moral and I actually now that you revealed that match to me. I kinda really like where you put brandon motto this penalizing a bit for that one good year but the inability to stay healthy. So I think when we go in reveal our master bracket a few days time and we will get some input from our third member at the team out of course Sarah when we put this together but Yeah I like where you brandon moral on that list there but yeah that is the starter side of the bracket. Craig entered the going through where we cheated. Yeah it's a good question Well yeah that's exactly and so you might fire the good spot. I WANNA see the dumpster fire for end. So people can realize how bad the outfield or now study decline. We started with one. That was the good matchups where we had some really dots. And now we're GONNA go to the next and so on and so forth. Let's go infielders. We just saw Craig fifty one sixty sereda feeling whereas probably really close to mind. But I had the bringer of rain. Verse Jose Molina. Okay Gary Cole- On that one do you WanNa go through the options really quick before we start diving through all. This is very true. Very True Soul Craig. The options in feel. There's a list. There is some very interesting names on here. Edwin encarnacion you now Escobar. Jose Molina Brett. Lawrie outs solace y guerrero junior phobic Kelly Johnson Josh Donaldson Jose Ramos Russell. Martin Adam Lind Justin smoak tweets Lewinsky's Devon Travis than cabinet. Ezio now for people at home. That are listening to this. Can Be like why the hell's Bobishenko junior and Kevin. Do included in this list. So when I told him we got the top sixteen BC was actually quite up there. One season was good enough to be part of the top. Sixteen glad and boats are not just based on the sample size but craig had four catchers in the sixteen th in addition to the for Martin and Jose Molina John Bach. Jeff Mathis both. You're just one year track the top sixteen which is getting out of here. Filter that out. I discussed guys. And you get to Bow Vlad already exactly saw like your conversation where we're talking about. Mathis who had gone home on the whole time. He was a blue Jay but I can see. Catchers tend to have a higher war because the fact that they are such a defensive position unfairly weights this in a conversation like this. I think where you were really hoping to talk with. Guys are have a little bit more of a full picture of the ball game or at least have some essence of offense completely agree So yeah that was the list of infielders that we are feeding of Craig has already said. He has fallen in his number. One of the employees Molina and yes trade agreements. There's another star Donaldson as my number one seat as well Going up against Kelly. Johnston may sixteen feed and I put Johnson down there because I despised him. I thought he was terrible when he was here. In the numbers back that up but also the fact. I penalize them very heavily because Aaron Hill was part of the traits of the diamondbacks or Kelly Johnson and I believe Donald with a part of that trade to a fan favorite. So yeah screw up exactly yes you want to know why have a personal gripe Kelly Johnson but I did read him Lot higher than I ever thought I would just based on references and who else is on this list. I Hate Kelly Johnson because I paid almost one hundred dollars for a full stadium stat head for my wall on my house and guess who's on the jumbotron on that fat Kelly. Johnston is Alon Kelly frigging Johnson. So anything in my backroom looking at this giant six foot by seven foot. Fat Head of of Skydome. Yes I said at Skydome. I Have Kelly Johnson's muggy on the frigging Jumbotron in center field. And I'm like come on man could have been off the other guy from that year when this random jackass took this picture for. This fat had fun. Oh always be part of it for you. He's gotTA I. Can finagle picture over it. And still their doctor a little bit. So who do you have coming in at number two again fifteen? So I have ed wing verse. Oh okay interesting. We are not far off on video. I also have been number two so there's another started. They will be locked into those seeds when we create the master bracket. So yeah as Kevin Kevin as a fifteen y y you tell me because he barely played fair. I have was Melita. So often was Molina. Jose Molina Probably would be my number sixteen but he was really good defensively so I didn't WanNa put them all the way down to the bottom And Yeah I often just said like Kelly from flab Edwin up against Jose Molina and to Richard Team so there. I have to ask as I was at this moral conundrum too and my deciding factor between jd and Edwin was the fact that Donaldson actually could play defense. Offense of numbers are not too terribly off when you look at the full tenure of Edwin Encarnacion in the Blue Jays uniform whereas the smaller condensed part of the Josh Donaldson. It's just shows you. How crazy good. Josh Donaldson was for those two years. Even twenty seventeen. When he missed time he still posted some really incredible numbers in two thousand seventeen. They add the MVP weighed heavily. It didn't number one seed and my bias would have been number one. Because he was my favorite from all castes years I like them more than Jose Bautista They just couldn't put that number one and that's also causal Microcosm Craig of his ten years of Blue Jay because he was always shadow and then eventually shadow he was waived by the team at one point was technically a twin for like five seconds. And then they're going to pay him and then he came back to us. Jackie right so the fact we are even talking about this with that love affair for somebody is so damn good. That's where he started and I couldn't believe the day they did waive all I'm like I don't care what he does. The Guy would that much pop in the American League? You fucking lead and play you find a spot. It's not rocket science. I don't care if he sits on the bench and does a you know couple pinch hits a week. He's still GONNA hit thirty home. Runs all the yeah busy? Oh because I couldn't put busy. Oh any any higher on this list regardless of that fact of what you just said is a big. Joe's other brothers in arms here. I had a little higher. Because it's how good they were in spurts or visual awareness or consistency and it was consistently Ah Learning experience is kind of how I agree. Experience Way to put it absolutely so we are in agreement on number one and number two. Are we GONNA go three three and drink over top three seeds? Craig reveal your number three number fourteen. I had Justin Smoak verstappen travis close but fell. I. We are not Klinsmann. Smoker said are Russell Martin against Al Scandalous. What did you Justin Focus number three? Explain the rationale for smoking. And I'll go into mind for Russell. Martin. I I had a big moral conundrum because I had. Martin is my next match up well. We haven't flipped. And then I had Kelly Johnston as Martin's backup are okay part of his conversation there so i. The only reason I gave smoke over Martin was the fact that when this team was starting to slide justice put this team on his back and was able to keep this team in the conversation in twenty twenty seven Teal and there was the biggest offensive pop in recent they went his team was going down. And it's kind of bum rap. Because in all reality he solidified a spot in two thousand fifteen on this team and really made it his weight. Now was the twice sixteen that we got him back. Smoke yeah or do we have easier in two thousand fifteen in mental breakdown of that but I was just thinking school. Bello way too much there for a second so but yeah I the fact that he was always getting better and then the fact that like I said he was picked this team up and put him on his back and carried them to the point. Where hey this is good stuff? And and he's been good sense so really hard for somebody that was for me to have that big of a window where he was that good in this uniform to knock them any lower than this totally fair. That's not dissimilar to why haven't met number four On my list in Tampa smoke and it's matchup in there I Have Martin. It's a re- Part of this name. Maybe a say. I'm not sure this thought every cross my mind. Let it put three Is the fact that Canadian But also box on your ballot. It did yes gave them a little bit of a boost over smoked but also you know the Blue Jays Russell. Martin was kind of that slager but being needed in twenty fifteen and he was a free agent signing that Alex Anthopoulos went out and actually opened the purse strings for everybody who previously complained about in populous with kind of starting to arrest when he signed also Martin and added that fifth year. Make sure that Russell didn't go to. The cubs was a lot of the reason why had three. But just that swagger in the fact that Russell Martin beforehand was just always consistently on play-off teams and then as I got the Blue Jay the To the playoffs and help carry that The the pitching staff to the playoffs. Now reason why. I'm liking your smoke. Seed number three is because by the time the Twenty fifteen and twenty. Sixteen playoffs come around. You could just see how tired in Dead Russell. Martin was to the point where he didn't do anything in either playoff run so I do smoke at number three Martin Number. Four for that. So my other deciding factor between the two of them was the fact that I chuck them all. I always thought that the two of them is great defenders for their positions so I washed out. How good they are on defense decision and basically kind of almost purely on offense to and as good as Russell. Martin is on offense. Justin smoak like you said was better for the whole season. Not Having to be a catcher right. Absolutely that's definitely fair so cray on the other side of these matchups. We kind of dive into three. And four th since they split I've outspoken solace up against Russell Martin at number fourteen for kind of similar recent. You have Kelly Johnston around the same matchup and then inforwars thirteen. I smoke against Kevin Visa and Bijou also for similar reasons. to you putting him at fifteen Because he's barely played but I gave him a bit of a bump Kevin Beasley or just the fact that he's going to be your in probably end up as a two or three seat number doing this now for the next decade. So you're probably one hundred percent right with that. But as far as I I couldn't have the heart of putting visual about some of the other guys and like I said the reason I put Bowen Vladi and that next tier was the fact that they were just showed insane. Flashes a why they're going to be the next best. Baseball players does the big thing. You don't have a debut like Oh shut all the time I've been out for all the people saying he had a rough season. He was awful or whatever the hell everybody wants to say. He had a better rookie performance than any recent rookie. I can think of in Major League baseball other than the elite ones like the the Aaron Judge Fifty home run year. The what was just Peter Alonzo. You don't have a guy like that going on Vlad. Junior is in that frigging rookie of the year. Conversation all day every day. But when you have somebody like Gleyber Torres that's coming up at the same time and really run away with it in New York. You know this is kind of what's going to happen so I had like. I had Alex Gonzalez in my next match. And it's funny because the first time I'd read this I went to not this Alex Gonzalez the other one the other. How the hell does he get into this bracket and I'm like all right. We had the MARLINS Alex Gonzales for one year and it was really really good. Yeah I think I gave them a fourteen. The Bat Alex. The marlins weather because the bill made for one year play punished him for his time by five twelve machining. Coming in at twelve. Yes you're correct. One hundred percent the twelve for him but I had a matchup funny enough against shortstop and too low all too low there okay. Interesting I have A number five and I have a lot of new Perot junior coming into number twelve Guerrero coming in you know. I WanNa give them bit a bit of a bump for similar reasons to you but also wanted to create some intrigue with this one when I was eating because Lindh had a really good starting his career Craig in but in the decades before so I really wasn't using that As a reason to see them so high but he still was good even when he wasn't hitting all those home runs he was consistent. Even though you sell into a bit of a platoon I towards the end of the Blue Jays career. I do think Adam. Lind started his career. Back kind of we've been to twenty nine in twenty eleven A little bit Was reason why Portland. So high. But Vlad for similar reasons where I know already from before we started recording them in a similar slot but yeah I've Lynn versus Guerrero. Outside was twelve people are GonNa like where I have flaherty on my match up to sing. Tell it's GonNa be a good way to see what had already had Linda all the way. Down my swing. Oh penalized him pretty heavily for the fact that he couldn't hit left handed pitching especially air in this part of his career. He was better earlier than the You know the angry birds era there when he was winning silver slugger awards and whatnot Against Left handed hitters are pitchers I mean but that fact that he just could not all of a sudden fight anyway to lefthanded pitching. It was barely passing the Mendoza line. I couldn't I couldn't give them any higher especially over some of these other guys. That are coming up here on my list but back to the my troy to Lewinsky verse. Alex Gonzalez matchup. Yeah people really need to stop ragging on troy to Lewinsky. I know the ending of the thing was just not very sweet. And how it worked and all the T- terrible hurt injuries. All that kind of stuff. This guy hit some of the biggest home runs in Toronto. Blue Jays history the twenty fifteen playoffs and people need to remember that we do not get troy to Lewinsky at that trade deadline. This team looks a lot goddamn different. Now you're absolutely right and I didn't take that angle into effect before slaughter them but not too far off on where you're from you but Yeah no that's That's very true And that is an intriguing. Chargers twelve Integra two overs. Alex Gonzales Craig why don't you talk with your six verse? Eleven I funny enough. I just realized this too. I have another para shortstops pitted against each other. And that's how old I knew I Jose Reyes I bow. Okay okay so why I had him there because just the fact that we didn't have really igniter in our lineup. Those few years and Jose. Reyes was that spark at the top of that lineup regardless of he wasn't the Jose Ramos of old with the Matt's the fact that you had somebody fearsome in that lineup in that top of that played really well but he wasn't up to his old. Mvp like batting award. You know levels was kind of disheartening to a lot of people and the fact that I just couldn't low overhead allows some of these other names on the because after this I have a couple of guys I would make argument that are on par with Jose Ramos. And one of those Guys Adam. Lind that you were just alluding to and I just like I said he played really well and then the fact that you turn around him I gave them plus points for giving me tried to Lewinsky so I believe if you're at eleven that is correct and I said I cannot disregard that ridiculous debut by any player absolutely and that's why I had him ranked above who I have him man. That's that's above vladi too. Yeah sure absolutely well. I have bow in the eleven spot as well. So we are aligned. There will be locked in on our rockets. We are two on eleven geologist said and I have both up again. Breath Maury I had lorries coming in at number six Craig. We all know extremely extremely polarizing as just the fact that he just dive into camera wells and get himself injured all drink so many red bull. Yeah he come back and look at threat worries. Ten years lee-jay he. I think there is a little bit of expectations that were kind of weighing down in terms of being able to be wanted to be. He was criticized for his play quite often. Warriors right around average in a lot of categories When you look at the indepth statistics. He didn't hit as much power as I thought he was. Going to. Or St Louis many basis. I thought but in the way that runs created plus department. He was at one three in his last year as a blue Jay. Two thousand fourteen. He is at Ninety seven in twenty twelve ninety five in twenty thirteen so he wants a liability by also wasn't overly good in been were a lot of high expectations on Loy but they were still some real of curiosity because the Lennox took them on In the Josh Donaldson Trade. I wanted to thank him by giving him a little bit of a higher by for happened that Lori at number six that when he got traded the white SOx yeah. You're right about that one of those guys that just it was this. Where is it going to happen because you saw in glimpses that debut in Baltimore was legendary so and then he just it never never plateaued there like you thought it was going to and you never saw the full what I thought was going to be Brett Lawrie and maybe that was unfair for all of us to put that on him but the fact that he did play the game the way he did play made me very excited and I never thought in a million years that it was gonNA turn out the way it did. I figured worst case scenario he was going to bury salvage a major league hitter for a long time. Yup I walk to for sure as a little disappointing at the end of it but The fact that he's Johnson and he wasn't terrible. I think people realize separate Laurie That didn't go his way He dealt with a lot of injuries as a result of his playbook mention on your living terrible. Now See I. Well I got I got mentioned about mine would wear lorries for the next one. But I didn't WANNA be apart. Yeah Duh we can go to seventy skin and they Sydney Laurie in your second. Then I do. And he's in my seven. I ten okay. So so you got the guy. Both guys insane expectations there one. We've only seen a little bit of so far but his minor league career should boast. Well well above what Brett Lawrie didn't his Minor Leagues. Stint bluejays tenure. So this is GonNa be interesting to see where fans picked that one because they were both fan free. They're both fan favorites at times. So yeah and I. I liked that match up a lot. More than my second comes down to talk to Seguin. Going up against dragging travis attend And this is what. I wanted to create some intrigue as well because when I was putting together my seatings like okay. I NOTE. Devon Travis was offense. Favorite is a really good kid when. I want to know if that would outshine with the voters with two loaded here at the J. Now the reason why put too much lower than you did is because I did. Pete allies them a little bit more. For the way Jay's tenure ended not his fault he was injured which is asked him to get treated story from subtle shade at the Blue Jays last year when he was with the Yankees since training All of that so that is why I have to. Oh yes well. That is my second. Ten is too low jobless and then we're not too far off on that one either. But no where you penalized and where I penalized players. And that's worth a lot of this fund is. This conversation has been and that you're seeing a little bit old new in that one too. So what swing. My sweet was holy raised against you now. Escobar so have raised at eight and you know Escobar up mind both controversial shortstops. You know how I can't remember if the Jose Reyes Story. about I believe he had similar allegations area. D- domestic abuse allegations are apparently Rights certain things on his I black. They should never ever said period. Let alone written down. Also wanted shortstops with controversy against each other. What is ironic on? How I I loved. My swing guys together was Lyndon Escobar Eddie to yes I had eight nine for Linden Khobar and I did that because they were both pro. They ended up both ending their bluejays tenure as locker room problems. Yeah very so where Adam? Winds work ethic was brought into question at the end of his career and rightfully cell. Because it sounded like. He wasn't doing the work he should have been doing. You know maintain major league status and then you kneel you ask kind of being I guess the nicest way it'd being is a ship back all of a sudden. That guy was pretty good but I just him into anything after that. And that's why I had them at my swing. I just didn't really know what to do with them. Yeah no I very similar. That's why I have ninety S. That's where he will fall when When we open this up to voters and we put into the gas so yeah we both have controversial against controversial and atheist nine for different reasons but similar at the Blue Jays fans. 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I think didn't change it when you think of some of those names when they call it. Similar to the starters in that regard but one you need us off with your one verse. Sixteen it'd be do slot up at the top. I have one of my personal favorites and I just think that he was one of the better. Closers that we've had doesn't get a good rap for some reason logical but bunch bunch bluejays fans but when people bring them up they're like Oh my God I love him and as Casey Janssen. Okay and then I had him against Joe Smith but Joe Smith I can only say so much because he was there for five minutes. I can't believe he makes it shows you how we've just had the revolving door of relievers over the last decade. And somebody like Casey Janssen. Yeah I almost did. The obsolete used to Casey Janssen was one of those guys that rose to the top and took over this bullpen man. He was the guy for a long time and honestly hurt me to see him go to Washington but I was also sanely relieved at the same time that the Blue Jays Dan through brick and money atom after how he couldn't stay healthy with the Washington nationals and ended up just kind of fizzling out. So the only thing I've ever won in my life was a signed. Casey Janssen Baseball when I was down down. It's spring training in two thousand fourteen over loudspeaker. I got back to the seats with my dad and he goes. You know you really should give that ball of this kid behind us. I'm like screw that one in my life. If I get a foul ball I'll give it to the kid. Not even ten minutes later a ball comes over and barehanded and handed it to the kid and I looked at my dad and said see not awful story. Euro one hundred percent throughout with sum up Casey Janssen J. Tenure and then it just falls under the radar and I'm not sure about that because he wasn't a part of the Twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen teams and then he went off to the national fizzled out. As you mentioned he was there good as a closer for a few years there with the Pluto's Injuries SETTLED THOUGHT. He was going to be that fifth guy in our rotation for the longest time but it just it made so much more sense to move him when he was having trouble. Stay on the field through the bullpen. Paid off in a big way. We're not far off on that at. I'm actually starting to wonder if our one verse sixteen in two years fifty or completely saved match up but just a different plots because I have bret ziesel number one just because he was really really damn good for Into for a long time. That's little even as a starter. Good exactly And then Tyler Clifford at succeed Clipper did have a full you with the Blue Jays. But it wasn't spectacular. It wasn't terrible. So the fact that Joe Smith Had A really good five minutes here. why? I put him a little bit higher than sixty and input Clifford there. Now I do have Casey Janssen coming into the next one at number two for the exact same reason you said against Joe Smith Fifteen So who do you have to have it to verse? Fifty I have we literally have are one and two flipped because I saw at number two because of just he was so good for slow lawn but the fact that he never really stepped into that elite role was the reason. I couldn't give them the number one like you did. But the fact that he was like I said another guy that was going to be a starter that this that I think he had ten wins the one season the picture of the Blue Jays starter and then it just made so much more censor him because of how we just dominated lefthanded hitters to be able to just mowing down and then the fact that he was able to all you know you could get everybody out because repertoire. I had him against Dominick Leone because he had that one great season but he was turned around and sold at a high value. Yeah and it worked out for us. It did Intensive getting Randall critic. Now who will be interested to see where you come in there? But Yeah Oh we're reversed on one and two so we'll see where Adam Corsair has either of them and see if he agrees with one of characters while imagine he's probably at least in. The same ballpark is so And there I think Craig in terms of the next match up to three fourteen to me like number three is somebody who should be number one but the way his tenure ended as a blue. Jay is I have a down at three I penalize them for being a piece of shit but I also have to realize how you had the realizing give him a good senior because he was awesome when he was here. You probably still should be with the team. If he wasn't a dirtbag but I have a senior at three going begin son at fourteen and for similar reasons to buy Joe Smith at fifteen. I wanted to give us all a bit of a boost Because he did have a really good half even here before getting shipped off to Colorado. So I had and I looking this and I'm wondering if I accidentally screwed up because I actually meant to have Roberto Suna funny enough against Sawano as well and I think I felt like things around by accident because there's no way in Hell I would rated. Jason Frazier was put in here by backwards. That low always. I like Jason Fraser. So I gotTa do some flip flopping here but yes that is what I meant to have. It was on an against Roberto. Suna okay so we are locked in there that will be a match up that it set in stone dating someone and I'm assuming for very similar reasons to me. Yeah very similar and Around Sawano to get something really good to exactly and works out too well. Let's see if we can continue our funding and have another locked in notch up. Four versus teams. Reveal the way Craig. So this is where I meant to have Jason Frazier and I had him verse clip. Okay see clipper thirteen and Jason Fraser. Four interesting we've very much differ on Jason Fraser by the way. Not because they hate him. But you I'll explain the rationale for. I put her to get the frazier in your part here in a minute. I put Jason Frazier because as far as time goes we. Were having a shortage of guys. I could even just finish off games. That was somebody like. Jason Frazier had to step up and I just gave him a lot of credit for that for keeping the Blue Jays even in the conversation in the you know ridiculous standing that we always were behind the Yankees and red sox and I think a lot of that was credited to him and a couple other guys on this list and I'm just a the end of the role because he was more or less the closer during that time. Now you're absolutely right. I I have Ryan to pair for I dare and Oliver ask thirteen. Two Para was good for quite a few seasons in a row. There went to the establish himself fully in the bullpen. Most twenty seventeen but a little bit in two thousand fifteen even at a cup of coffee in Twenty fifteen where he was okay but I have two pairs for 'cause he was really good at his career And I wish him all the best with guns they're in Oliver for basically folly into the exact same reasoning proceedings with Joe Smith at someone else I put Oliver Thirteen. Three was really Dan. Good about one year but it was only for one year. So that is my cordless thirteen. So okay what's your Five verse whatever number I get. I'll be eighty five twelve very interested to see if we agree on. That's what I can gile coming in at number five Dominic LEO AND COMING UP AT TWELVE. So we happen. I got Giles and then Scott downs on okay. So we're not far away. I've got so as much as I love Scott downs. He ended up being. It was the guy what do you. Where do you put them? And that was Scott down. He was in and out of the rotation and the bullpen. He was always really good. The bullpen tried kept flip-flopping a back and forth. I think broken by Ben Ten. Giles is just so good. I know we've only had him for awhile now. But he's been really good when he's out on the mound and he has been lights freaking out and when he does yes. There might be something about that but I'm fine with that Giles. Eighty favorite mistake. Just just enough difference right absolutely. Leone again. These guys are all very similar. Similar reasons Leone one season was really did they gave him a better seed than probably should've Because he ended up turning into Randall. Grischuk but we agree on five We own twelve. You've Scott down the twelfth so I was wrong. We actually difficult to balance got downs because he comes in at number six for me. I'll give me out eleven golf and I could see why you have hendricks and I can make the argument for down to like. I said it's just it's I couldn't I don't know where to place in my listless. Because he was back and forth so often right right. Who Do you habit sixers eleven? I have Ryen Tear Ryan to pair Darren Oliver author not far on that one. We have any match up was thirty four and Oliver Thirteen also. I guess we're just GONNA call that a lock in. It'd be seeing difference so we already talked about those guys as much as I love Ryan to para I wish that we were going to get a chance to see him. Pitch a little bit more in a blue Jay uniform before I could really put them up on this list any higher. But I can't i. He had to be above the next couple guys. I had on this list lights out when we needed him. I think that was the when the unsung trades of two thousand fifteen. Yeah completely agree for seven days ten. Greg who do you have in your seven against remember can try and raise the bar with de la Bar against Joe Jeannie and I think. I think it's hilarious that I got the two guys with good nicknames right next to each other so true. I do not sake. Anywhere on any of these lists slightly upset I almost debated putting him in there. Just to yell. Fire would go but then I would be worried that people would that he would just went on popularity. Do you remember. Remember the game. We were playing with a couple of the other bluejays podcasters and writers of take two. Blue Jays affiliated people and name. Name the podcast Ro. I'm one of the ones that I used in. That might be a fun game. We can resurrect on twitter as well. But the two guys I chose. Were ruin our Kawasaki and Mark Derosa having their own podcast and calling it. I think I'm turning Japanese. Who would not wish I remember the conversation. I just can't remember who with it was goofed. Off Out of me and Ryan Frencesco goofing around on twitter during a ball game and then we ended up. Started goofing around. Back and forth tossing are thousand names and podcasts and it was it ended up being really fun so another one random stupid one that I had was getting Jason Greeley which surprised didn't make this list either and then David Wells I call it the ball boomer with cheese ever this conversation now. I just had to bring that. I was like that was a funny conversation. So nicknames of goofing goes but yeah I had Steve Delebarre Joe. Bg Eugenie in that spot. Okay so you delebarre at seven correct. Iraq's because I have him at eight but if Mike Seven slot I have jobs in the same kind of bracket you just haven't reversed you genies. You've ten against Jason Fraser at put at ten and only because even though Jason Fraser was very incredible the reason why put him so low is because it was at the very very beginning of this decade before he went off to the white sox. I believe At twenty eleven they divas on the air in twenty ten but regardless is ten years was really good so I wanted to give him a higher seed but I just couldn't put them among some of the other guys who had a little bit of a better and longer tenure or is it just. Because I've been using. Jason Frazier is the How say this but ended my blue jays emotions for years on this? Podcast stressing me out. But I love him. Oh yeah he does. Definitely somebody would stress you out there. You just could not lock it down some time before. He gets runners on and by late. Find a way to escape out of a jam. It'd be like a fake God. You crazy man so because. Oh eight nine on the wraparound before we move onto the outfield which people will get a kick out of some of the names on the list. Who Do you have coming in eight years? I Have Luke. I Hendricks So we are similar on Luke. 'cause I haven't met number nine you haven't made and I got delebarre at eight thirty nine and my reasoning for putting loop. Here was the fact that he when he was good. He was good for a good while as a blue Jay. I'm trying to seriously take the what I saw of him in buffalo out of my math because I never thought years he would ever make his way back to the major leagues again. That's how awful. He was one day when he was here against the Rochester. Red Wings in it literally looked like that scene from bull. Durham where he literally threw the ball at the ball and nail them in the head. It was that wild or Charlie Sheen taking the piece off the Metal Co. Cut Out it was that wild and I don't know what was going on. I'm like this guy can't hit water. If he threw you know fell off the boat. Is that that absolutely right. With heated in the similar bracket it's reversed all you got leap when extremely frustrating but the also giving credit With cable is one season. Funny enough. How many one hit wonders with team. It had over the last decade. That season apparently was really damn good then. He's kind of started to put it back together towards the end of his tenure which got US Jacob Leykis talk majority works out Liam Hendriks ends up. Being one of the best closers in baseball they started seeing the Start seeing the build up for this Aussie but law. I honestly I was like this is going to be one. That's going to hurt us. Would letting him go and looking back at this? It's like okay. We could have had a bullpen with him and Ken Giles. At the back of it or imagine I remember the Ra de Kissel city where he has got rocked a Liam Hendriks kept it somewhat close and the Blue Jays started a bit of clawback in that game four and it was Hendrix who was cleaning up the mess and kept it where it wasn't right. Thank you yeah. He did right the ship. It almost spurred a comeback. Until they didn't and they dropped him Bokan. I was wondering I was going to be the big thing for him. And obviously something in Oakland triggered it and I just knew there was some talent there that I wasn't expecting him to be a closer especially to this kind of clip. But Oh my God I never thought a million years. He wouldn't be anything but a setup guy at a minimum if he found that led to his repertoire and he obviously founded in spades. Absolutely well Craig. Relief for side of the bracket we haven't identical match up for the first time tonight with Roberto. Sooner if someone in three fourteen we also have a very similar magic. Just not seated in the same one for us at Ryan's a tear dared Allah who they will be together in the bracket we have child at five so I think that was the best one in terms of matching it up together though the last one and late and TV. Some of these names on here Craig. It just makes you realize how is poor bluejays. Outfield has been in twenty ten and has not for Jose freaking Batista. The outfield will be a joke audience. Expectations and greatness all the way to literally looks like a dollar by dollar general or anything and everything in between and I just don't know how I can get any better with somebody's equations that are put into this and it made me. This is where I spent all my time when you sent me the list. I'm like you've got to be kidding. Me How fashion because there's something that's all. I will say that we go through this list and reveal who made the topics all the guys who are now. I added the mini earth-like. So the move at the plan makes sense and specifically focusing on like a Rajai Davis or Michael funders or Milky Cabrera so nice there but in addition to those three great we have Jose. Obviously Fred Lewis. Eric Seems Kevin Pawar. Mike McCoy yes. Mike McCoy who played everywhere had a lot of games in the outfield and it was basically Milton Workplace. Between Vegas and Toronto. How badly McCloy got pissed off. What he saw. The partnership of Buffalo is there to be like. Oh I could take lower. Yeah it's all just a throw out there. Mike McCoy might have made more money and frequent flyer miles needed for as major league contract. Those years just sank. I fully believe it. I fully fully believe it. Mike McCauley make this outfield lift from the time that is spent there as e Keel Carreira. Colby rat's lips Chavez Snyder Vernon Wells fargos Milky Cabrera. There said sorry the Oscar Hernandez Randall. Grischuk lured escorial junior in addition to Davis And Saunders sue I referred to already so I don't think we're differing number one. I don't think there's any rationale for the person to not be number one so I think we already know you're telling me it's Mike. Mccoy McCoy was my number one seed again closely back to Houston Sixteen Opposite yes I I had Jose Against Eric themes and I I the reason we're making fun of the obviously or is the fact that Jose Bautista is everything to this organization over the last decade. And some. There's no better saying it and this is not even. I don't even know the backflips epic moment for him. Obviously and I. I'm glad he got that moment. But all my God he has been a wrecking ball for the American league in for like the easy a decade. Yeah one hundred percent and I'm GONNA be interested to see because I have a feeling that at the end of all this Craig will end up being back east as voted by the San depending on how the match ups play out. But I'm I think more so just for the discussions over the next few weeks in terms of who moved on and maybe the rationale for the way the fans voted. That'll be more so the intrigue even if he does end up winning it's ultimately deserved but yes he's number one and you said sorry L. Canes Tacoma Racks Okay I had Fred Lewis at sixty and then I wasn't far off with where I put a name. I in front Lewis my next match up. But I'M GONNA I'M GONNA give this to the Blue Jays fans. Fred Lewis is the Anthony Alford from the beginning of the decade. You are so right with that. Because Lewis at the off her terry similar up there so I was. I was sitting here. I was I was playing. I think it was. Mvp Baseball at the time. Fred Lewis ended up being a wrecking ball for my based on the potential stuff in that like I'll the show rating started on like you know if you were going to put that in that ballpark at a fifty and by the time I was four or five seasons in he was in my eighties and he's one of my better players. Oh Yeah it was this. This is the kind of talent that Fred Lewis had. It just never came together and I really like I said. Hey compared him to Anthony Alford but right now. That's exactly what's going on and I hope Anthony. Alfred's better shape than Fred. Lewis got. No you're right in a very separate I Friendliness I think is kind of a fan favorite away. And the fact that everybody was excited they brought him in because of the potential just never panned out which is why sixteen while. You're fifteen off a very similar reasons. Maybe we haven't exactly reversed because I'm eric with fifty Who is your number? Two going up against Fred Lewis v DUBS. Yeah well okay. So I have to mention one thing about Eric Zone mess. This conversation is completely different. Eric themes to everybody. That didn't get to see him. Play at this part of the decade for the Blue Jays looks I- tentacle just being. But he couldn't hit. He was playing a decent outfield. It was kind of one of those things where he played his bat. Didn't carry him enough. That play 'em in the outfield. So what did he do go over to? Korea comes back and hits way too. Many home runs for the Milwaukee. Brewers I I said when that was happening I said the Blue Jays really really really really really really need to be paying him and bringing him back to Toronto and I would have been right if the Blue Jays signed with. Had a solid all round outfield with Post Korea. Eric themes with company in the outfield. Imagine that lineup having Eric themes playing field behind Edwin Battista Martin. Everybody that would be insane even to be else. Even if you only bats to sixty and it's twenty home runs it would have been nuts so but when he was batting a buck thirty the began the decade with blue days. The pop was there but he couldn't hit enough consistently to get out of the basement on this argument and I gave Fred Lewis the edge because that potential that we unfortunately didn't get see. Yes that's very fair. You know what I was going through. And we were totals and started to get people in there. Were some who had better totals than air things like Chris? Paul Bellot but the reason why I had things in here instead of Tola. Bella or Danny Valencia. Both of those who just missed the cut was because they also played other positions primarily but they had a much bigger sample size they phase was not worth a thing to the. Blue Jays won stained here. He was zere worth exactly zero. You didn't hurt them. He didn't help them all. I like where you have stayed in France. Louis I probably will reverse it myself Or it will be interesting to see if I of course L. So you're number two seed I can blur Guide pool are very overrated But defense incredible There's where most wargame from exactly it was other than twenty fifteen where he actually did look somewhat competent at the plate but plyer fan favorite And the fact that he was one of the most valuable outfielders on this entire list Sh- was shocking to me Considering some of the other names that could have probably shouldn't have been better It's not for the defense to lar- may not have made this list. But the fact that he was fan favorite I think Pulled pulled a lot of weight into my decision to put him at number two. Okay so did you have walls and number three then now okay. I completely opposite averted well-spent. My biggest thing is yes for any wheels didn't live up to the contract that he signed but look at those teams in those years he was still won best contributing players on those rosters played. And that's why I had him ranked above Kevin. Clar who I had in my third spot so I had dubs verse Fred Lewis and my second spot and then in my net my third. I had Kevin Mike McCoy. Okay so actually. Yeah I as Mike Maclay at fourteen as well. So Mike McCoy we'll be locked in to fourteen point not too far off in our ranking I probably rats Mus Three But before I get into that why. They applaud at three for similar reasons ear with a little bit different. I kind of rank him above her wells went vernon wells was also a plus center fielder as a defenseman and then he actually could hit his weight very fair. So I'm trying not to let too much of the previous decade very wells bleed into this conversation bought the fact that like I said he was a main contributor on those teams that he did play on in this decade right his wife had him ranked coming. Klar KEVIN FLOWER. I have him in my third seed because he had just enough offense with a gold. What should have been a gold glove caliber centerfielder right now? Yeah I mean I agree with that. She I know right. Imagine how many more goal clubs comply with hockey gear mar so I thought the hospice at three because is another guy who just. That's so much talent. Viskhan put together about once. Even there was one really good season. Maccabi Rod Smith was a shade below four win player. When you get it before win players on fan graphs getting into the very good range. Not a lease but very good Erasmus had one of those years here for the Blue Jays So we did that kind of heavily. I also probably had a little bit of bias here. but roughness also had a little bit of a longer tenure than some of the other guys who have see below Colby and like the four and five matchup says we'll get into in a but I liked. Pull your accent thing. He got a little bit of an unfair shake here but at the same time he didn't exactly help this case with demeter And just how we carry themselves off field and having his daddy helped and help either fell apart in Saint Louis. That's my question. Oh God I don't even wanted a doing right now. Show they still have him as a free agent and it has that picture on it all there. His last player photo. So it's GonNa live on me until he officially retires on every baseball outlet so I guess he hasn't officially filed his retirement papers because the last time when the only thing I see when I look up Kobe Wrath on Jan graphs rashness is quote done and enjoying life. John says not by. I guess the retirement papers have officially been submitted to the thirty three. I said he could come back and do something just to throw that out there. That's about whereas workout is not fully their house. They got not fully retired. Everybody knows exactly interested to see some of the next guy's fault because there are some who I could make a case maybe rank above colby but just didn't have a long enough sample size here. Who did you have at four versus thirteen? I had I N Malki versus okay. I had milky Florida's. Well okay so I and the reason I have milky above Rasmus on my side is because Malki was just that damn good those couple of years for the Blue Jays and I couldn't pull him down any lower on this list especially when I was looking at who was on the list like okay. I attacked it. From the Ballpark of who had the best period overall performance? Regardless of sample size Milky Cabrera was a force for the Blue Jays. And honestly I was really sad to see him go because he ended up having a few more good years and outfield where we could really use the leftfielder. Yeah could you imagine milky? Stay around for the plenty fifteen season. Same argument that I made with you went out and shop for Eric themes when you get real center. Fielder are real left field. Or somebody like Chris. Kulla below that you can watch them hit but he's GonNa kick the ball around the outfield a little bit. Yeah no I haven't in the exactly plot for the same reason Twenty thirteen where everything went wrong for the Blue Jason's of injuries even the fact that he could barely swing a bat because of a bad back he still managed to seventy nine and then when he was fully healthy and then how to really good twenty fourteen and that was one of his best seasons in the big leagues for years. Worth three point one win. There's only two season where Milky Cabrera was better Yes no milky Was Fantastic in twenty fourteen and for the exact same reason is you. That's why haven't that number four Some extra points on my list for completely screwing over the red sox earlier in his career as a Yankee so that was yeah. That was one of the best catches. World Series Baseball or baseball. I mean because I was just saying play. Summerfield is remember that he was that good to play center field at point. And that's how fast is body times crapped out on him and why he added H H. He's got bigger rather quickly could move and play center field anymore so he was really good with the Blue Jays and honestly that that dugout clicked really well with him. Jose and Company and there was a there is a good amount of swagger that he brought equation with the Blue Jays in two thousand fourteen and was sad to see him leave by. Like you said it would've been really nice to see linger around for that extra season. I might have been the last thing. We really needed to push us over the hurdle against the team. Funny enough was one of his old employers to in the Kansas. Yeah now you're at twenty fourteen. Th Malki was probably one of the best players on Could have and probably should have if they didn't just completely flame out at the end of August. Make the playoffs Napoli Jay Steed was in a playoff spot until mid August and then it just kind of all derailed after that. So and then I Zeke. You'll Carreira because I just think his pop culture push bringing the actual parrot to the dugout was humorous enough to put reality. That's where this list all of a sudden goes to shit. We have a long fourth and fifth outfielders on this list. That are on normal. You know are starting outfielders because how thin we were in those outfield spots. Oh God no. You're absolutely right. That's why five was tough for me to get sick and seven eight with where I have. These guys My thirteen really quickly. I've API ghosts Put America's I was despite his crazy steed Go so is another one of the disappointment. But now we're seeing and come back to the pitcher and he was looking really damn good in spring training. Fred leaving ndsu right yes touchy like Ninety Eight. I saw him actually funny enough when I was at a lansing lug nuts game two years ago and I'm like Oh my God it's Anthony. Ghosts pitching for the crap. Trae jeeter downs to the Red Sox We'll trade. So I remember I got to see jeeter downs in that game. Go just completely postal on a ball in the left field wall and then I saw Anthony. Ghosts pitching a game with that. I'm like hell is going on. I'm seeing top prospects of old and I. I admit I was very intrigued by the gase had but he couldn't control it so if he's taken that next step for the Indians good power on him man. This is the guy that we ask of Roy. Halladay trade for most Blue Jays fans. There's actually playing a major league baseball. It's crazy goes still only twenty nine so he could still make a nice little career other reliever if he's able to stay in. Kiel. Yeah pretty much asked us. This will be too much of a disappointment to me. And I'd penalized and heavily for that. Yeah we're in agreement on Milky so I wonder if we're agreement on number five. Who is your five. Wish you luck no five and twelve. We're actually finding out two guys talking about had Colby Rasmus Verse Anthony Goes. Oh Okay so ironic. I have Michael Saunders. That's five against traveled Snyder. Twelve in the only think I know. Well actually this is GonNa be interested because Rasmusen my three five would be exactly in the middle to be number four but we've agreed on milky there so it'll be it everything so of course here has called up four that were in a little bit of trouble. That's exactly it. That's how these things I m saunders at five against Travis Snider Twelve so that's a pretty good one. I I agree with that because like we were saying a lot of this is going to be a constant Russian roulette athletes and whatever spray and pray happens on this piece of paper. I had in that matchup for the next one here. I had a Oscar Hernandez Rodger Davis. Okay so that's used five versus twelve or thirty six. Yes so so wait. Sorry that you're six and eleven I and then Rajai Davis okay. I Have David Eleven I miss on Oscar by one At Second Richardson the Richardson. Who tickets that reversed big. So the reason I put tasker over Gretchen is the fact that there's just insane amount of power and you can make the argument that both identical to the swing and miss it everything but the fact. I I honestly. I'm more intrigued at this point by the pure pop of Toscano Hernandez verse Randall. Grischuk and I really think that's partly because I don't think that tasker Hernandez actually going to be in the outfield conversation. Much longer. No I don't either. I think that similar kind of switched to Edwin. That could unlock it. Not all stars When he doesn't have to worry about defense anymore The very similar reasons I think we almost identical seatings on both of them for the exactly and then Then Raji Davis Rajai Davis had a good tenure with trial bluejays. When his biggest problem was he couldn't steal first base. Yeah true and And I was just wondering if he was ever GonNA figure out and he ended up having a. I'm going to say he ended up getting a little bit better after leaving. Toronto BUT IT WAS QUICKLY FIZZLED OUT. And he had that epic home run in the playoffs. That was so cool. It was fun to watch that. I'M NOT GONNA lie. I was very. I felt a little nice about that because I actually had the pleasure of meeting Rodger Davis at one point and he's a guy I here for him. It was just so yes. He is a very nice guy. That's what I've heard. I think I've met him what I can't remember the rush as a good dude For same reasons I haven't met eleven He's okay like he wasn't a liability I don't think he brought a whole lot to the Blue Jays when he was here And he was one of those guys with said earlier that when I was going through this list the addition of him just made sense and I believe he was added twenty ten and was here until the end of the twenty twelve season So he has because he did wear the New Jersey's for one year when they switched to those but yeah date is When they got him made sense because in years prior they didn't have a center fielder after burn wealth washed continental. Yeah exactly yeah. Russia was supposed to be but he wasn't quite but he was not terrible. Like I said it was a problem was he can't steal first base. It's there's the whole summary for his for his baseball career. He had good stuff going on by the fact that he just couldn't get on first base and really show what he could do with his legs. Because I was his special tool the end up showing up at the end of his career to keep them employed but that was his main tool that. Everybody was very intrigued and salivating over at say. True Up to one assets Craig. I know we've been going on this for a while but it'd been fun I'm not disappointed at the episode life by any means and I hope our listeners are either bust the last two matches you know feel Obviously we already have revealed where reverse on where we have. Grischuk Antioch Star and are six or seven's But Mike Tan Up Against Yasser as easy Carreira And for similar reasons. I'm trying to think of who it was earlier that we were going through those kind of just like a full Kiro And a little bit of a cult following and fan was It was the Carreira. Did come up with some massive hits in two thousand sixteen to leave. He got in the winning run on the second last day of the regular season against the red sox typically Jason. Two one win or three to win That day and as soon as it did it was yes. That was the decider. It came to the making sure that we did make it. And I believe you're right. I believe it was the Equivalent to that but he also tied the game up against the Orioles In the wildcard game and it was two one after the the Trumbull home. Run Yeah Tied to and he did also was. He was pretty good in Cleveland series. He's a little bit of igniter so I did give the a little bit of a bump For that even though he was a fourth outfielder in a really good team he'd be outfielder. Yes that's why I have the all the way so my matchup there was randall. Grischuk Bert Loris okay. I literally sliced bread. Matchup going on here because you can make the argument that Laura Juniors apple size is short. What great and then Greg Shakes has been a bigger window but it's GONNA be interesting to see if Everything rich comes up here. We're GONNA have subpoena power my match so eight verse nine in the last one craig. I do have learned at eight I gave him a bump just because he's been a little bit longer. But this is where we completely differ on Vernon Wells. Because I'VE LEARNED TO WELD AT NINE. I gave him a ninth want because it was only the one year in this decade. It was a really good year that Vernon Wells was here and I give him a little bit of a boost on the nine seat. Because you know there's only one year the ten year beforehand was just simply incredible but I also did this kind of strategically because I want to see if people will believe in their stereo enough from his longer tenure in this decade from Lord Or sorry over wells. The point where people may consider neverthe- wells was the face of the franchise in earlier decades and he was really good the one year. So maybe we'll give him a LO over mortis. I just Kinda wanted to do that for the intrigue But I also did penalize Vernon much more than you did just because it was only the one year decade so the reason that I've been burned Walsworth I did is freely. You look at this list. You're not long talent. He is better than ninety percent of this list even at that one year so I could not bring myself to the Humana bringing him below. Kevin poole are in Milky Cabrera. That's why I ranked burn wells as high as I did. Yes then might. Have you know some bleed in the previous decade and whatnot? But he did finish on a high note with the Blue Jays. And I couldn't penalize them for that and it's not much not in shouldn't a game on that giant contract. That's not his fault agent. Did THEIR JOB. Yay cashed in quite nicely and the fact that that contract was moved some Still to this day remain massive mystery to me completely. The reason he got that huge contract. You remember. Maybe you don't but the year that he debut. That was one of the most ridiculous first full seasons for a player in at that time. This is a guy that Bali went punch for punch with Carlos. Delgado in that lineup right. That would be in. What oth three Caro- crazy year? That Delgado had yeah. You're A playoff performance freaks racket for everybody. So but yeah th-the and that's what people forget. That's how good he was and he was that gather a long time. And that's why he got that contract and then unfortunately that contracts you'll never happened for the link that it happened. Dollar amount might have been right for shorter term but it was way to fully equally loaded throughout the whole contracting. Like you said I can't believe we off loaded that and then who ends up biting the bullet that made me feel the best about the whole thing the New York Yankees so I was actually thinking that year to start the season with my dad when he was playing Luffield for the Yankees Spring Training. We you know. Hey Vernon how you doing? L. Talking to them from the third base baseline and it was a good time. You still get sport is. He's a good dude. Very good guy that community to Very well you have in your eight verse Nine Creek Travis. Snider Verse Michael Saunders. And that's where my one weird one from yours is as you. I could not give him the because it was literally the best player in baseball versus the all my God. Why are you here in? He went from being an all star to a guy that was a fourth outfielder. Really really quickly and I just couldn't give them any higher on this list and then I kind of lump them into that same ballpark is travis. Travis Snider Played Very Lawn with trump blue jays but never really put it all together. Yeah Travis Snider was a disappointment To say the least there was some really good spirits really. Dan Good Spirit And then it just totally fell apart for whatever reason so I I do like where you have Michael Saunders actually. I think I was a little generous to him. Based on this first half of two thousand sixteen and maybe I'm forgetting how bad his second half was because you're right. It was bad. Could half of the season so they yeah that Craig it's been a long episodes. This has been one GonNa set it up for the next number of weeks when we bring it up into the we split down the middle and have two episodes this week enough easy when We are going to be creating master bracket so for fans listening if you've listened as far. Thank you or yes. Maybe we'll split it into But regardless For fans listening this far it is episode. What pregnant are going to do now is we had some locked in match ups. We have some locked in seeds with players in their spots but we are going to determine this bracket let Adam Corsair our good buddy determine his Brockett and we'll see what he says and we will create the master bracket baseball and create the match ups. Which you will be able to vote on twitter To determine the best bluejays player of twenty ten is crazy Gemini final thoughts on the exercise from what we've done to this point Or maybe just some general feedback or excitement on Moving forward with this project. Yeah I'm looking forward to where some of these matchups are goes. I think we got some intriguing here each position and I'm just looking forward to the conversation with everybody on twitter and I almost feel like we're going to have to have for can call in or something at some point here to help everybody keep sandy going through these less than two weeks or after we get through a couple of days in the first round. We'll have a breakdown show or something but this is just the tip of the iceberg or some of the fun we have coming here on. Jaber watching everybody. Especially now we have. Our third bind melted into this wonderful concoction that we have going on your Me Brendan and of course. There are doing a very good job of coming up with content in this wonderfully weird time that we're all going through here with no sports. Got Everything coming so this is just the beginning and I really am looking forward to the conversation with Blue Jays fans on what they think about these matchups in where the seating goes in the actual bracket. Yeah it'd be fun to get people's feedback hopefully Bilde the viewership a little bit more than listenership or whatever you wanNA call it To our POD. Yeah my hope Craig. Is that As we continue go along if these discussions from this episode Can continue to hopefully the point where things get better on the coke nineteen front and we get close to the third of baseball real pan. That would be really nice but I think we bought ourselves several weeks of contracts with us for the next little which will hopefully take the started. Seeing some yeah. We're all in this far as global view. Here we're almost in. The Inverse League are Inverse field of dreams thing going here if you stay away from it people come eventually so But Yeah it's GonNa be good when I think we're going to have to divide this up to episodes man because his envy along. Listen so maybe we used to kick off our first. Two parts of the conversation. Starting pitchers infielders in our first round of votes and then we can release his other one later in the week and start the other stuff. Yes I am totally on board without though if you want us all together people who listen do it. It'll be one but it will also be to. Maybe Tracy Ledger Man. It has been a pleasure. It's been a long one but it's been a good one Looking forward to hearing everybody's opinions on the matter in terms of how this bracket breaks down once we have other opinions and whatnot but until then please come back baseball. Please come back baseball. And let's go blue Jays luck.

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Local Hour: Dwyane Wade

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Local Hour: Dwyane Wade

"Slam jam Ben dick, what are you doing warm up for the game? I all the games I watch even when I can't get tickets. It helps bring stadium atmosphere to wherever on watching all the diaper. Daddy, doesn't again come on dick save it for the air. We've got a game and check out vivid seats. It's the easiest way to get all the tickets to the games you want to go to vivid seats for the windy. Delivered to our show podcast is brought to you by the new Capital One saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores at one percents on all purchases. What's in your wallet? Hey, how's it going? Good morning. We had such a great start to the show such a great. So to the show that nobody are. No. Oh, okay. You want me to do it again. Yeah. It was like a kind of broadcast three. No. It wasn't. All right. You want to do it. No. All right. All right. I'm you momma. Do you do it? I mean, I laid the action go. Hey, guys. All last night was a night. I got this Bill step aside. Oh last night. You're gonna was so fun. Are you going to do the okeydoke? Yes. All right. Okay. Guys, you're not rocking with anyone today. It's a Wednesday way. That's gonna way it's a wacky Wednesday. I like people keep people guessing, right? By the way, this time not as good as our first one. We had such a good first one going and we go again third store. Do you want me to do it? All right. My turn ROY ticket shot. Go ahead. Right. Last night. Was an amazing amazing experience. Not for the Marlins. But nothing a Marlins way Incheon. Hey, I like the way that ROY started the show. Thank you. I appreciate the broadcast reversion. Yeah. Go ahead. Go go. Go go go last night. Sports was insane. South florida. You're waking up to the horse reality that twain Wade will never play another Miami Heat home game sounded good. So for Magic Johnson steps away. I imagine that's going to dominate the topic of conversation during the national show in which team Van Gundy will co host with us throughout the show. Smooths Sochi voice. However, we have to begin. With chen. What the hell what's his first name Wayne weighing way in Chen? Okay. He's being paid twenty million dollars twenty million dollars by the Miami Marlins and people get the Derek jeeter. And how that was the highlight of my night at the American Airlines arenas night for one last dance. Yeah. Chen pitches. Two innings twenty million dollar man do winnings. Ten runs gives it back to back to back home runs. He has a twenty four. If you're going to do it yesterday was the day to do it because everyone was distracted to be honest with you everyday to Judas today to do it actually why are they doing this? I I understand that they have to pay him the money, and no one's going to take that contract. But can't they just pay him and not play him. Well, that's an interesting question because I had a couple of people ask me yesterday like texting like we have to like designate them really we have to just get rid of them including the season. There's three years and fifty eight million dollars. Going to go away. You can't. You don't have to put them in the games though. You don't have to do that. What Adani say Bill you were telling me before the show. He said he asked to get better like. So according to the race stripes. He gave Chen vote of confidence and said, quote, it's not the role. I think he's accustomed to. But I do think he'll eventually he's going to get better. Is it just like that? Dot. Yeah. Forbade them. We got the we got the full spectrum last night. Oh, man. Did we ever best south Florida sports athlete ever, Dwayne Wade and possibly the worst yesterday? Honesty was the best day for that to help the CIA. I didn't know what happened until I was driving in today. I had no clue what happened one clip. He might be the worst. He might be the worst south Florida sports athlete ever considering either him heat bet a lot of Marlins are going to find the way on this. But what what was he fell paid like what nine million dollars a year they were able to move the heath bell contract. This guy is an albatross. You can't move this guy. Can we do that for each team? Like who's the Heat's worst player ever who's the heath bell of the Miami? Okay. So it needs to be to be the worst player ever. It's not going to be somebody that got signed to attend eight contract needs to be somebody that played regularly. We signed to be someone to contribute, and they didn't east bows. Three years twenty seven million which nine million. Okay. Nine million one one in terms of contracts one season of Chen. Not exactly I mean Chen's making twenty million this year twenty two next year and sixteen million. I don't think anyone I don't think it should be a contract thing. We don't believe I cannot believe that he's been on the team this long like I feel he feels like he's been on the scene for fifteen years. Yeah. Three years left on his that. So the Marlins they started the season out, you know, respectable to into downtown for better to do it sucks. But cubs is huge shall not be named considering contracts because that's what has to be taken into account. We have the worst ever because I feel like they're also has to be Malayan Chen hasn't been fair to bell his personality. We hated way in Chen the contract and performance we hate bow is so mean to me twenty twenty one is an option, and I hope to God, it's a team option. I hope this is a team option. They can't be a player option. Right. What do you mean? He was mean to you. Well, because we were mean to him on the air, and I was like that doesn't sound right. And. And after he blew like, I dunno like his twelfth street save I texted him. Hey, man, come on. And he he lived me up because you know, Dan, did the thing. Like, hey, ask keep bell to come on. Right. What did you say? He just lit me. After everything you guys said about me. He invoked his family like you have some nerve doing this, which I mean, he was absolutely right. Each exit them, right? After a blown save though. That's one day in one end of mon- like like that night. Joe morning after the mortgage is everything on this stuff. You know that like, yeah. No. But I mean, we were dragging them on the air for. I mean, we were. So mean, the heath bell now in our defense. He absolutely deserved every word that we said on the air. But yeah, he looked me up dude up, and he was one of those like fun Lovin guys. And he was such a great interview. Like we had him on when he was Padre and things were going, and it was a great time to be heath bell. And we're like, oh, this guy is so fun. But the second that dude sorted struggling. You went the other way. Right. Maybe was tired of getting lit up. So we wanted to let someone else. Yeah. I guess I wonder where this team would be right now if he had if he had been better that team like Jose Reyes and Mark Burleigh? And remember that he could. Have just had a different narrative if he closed the door didn't they have like a strong month and they'd gotten themselves back into. Yeah. They hard positioning and then heath bell just kept blowing saves. We'll did terrible at the very beginning. And then they kind of made up for and got a little hot street. I think in mid to late may, and then he is two thousand eleven on the on the morning that Dwayne Wade doesn't play Italy weird. And I didn't take us in this direction hitting the Marlins. Marlins party have so many turning points that like things could've gone drastically different. If things gone the way that they did. I also believe by the way that if they were like if they were successful in two thousand twelve like, the homerun sculpture would have been viewed differently. The greenwalds this all could have been different all of it could've anyway. And you wouldn't have had what you had last night. Which is Derek Jeter is trying to send the heat. That's such a great job. Oh, my this is a first class organization. I mean, all the cliches he cultured they did an amazing job last night with their programming around D Wade out of the box. You get a message from Barack Obama. I tv. Yeah. You flex on them. So Derek Jeter. They had a lot of people along the way during the commercial breaks have a video message dedicated to Dwayne Wade and one of them was from Derek Jeter, and it only lasted about fifteen seconds. I didn't hear a word. I think we have the audio. What k- look for? No idea what he said. It was the only booze. You heard all night. Even LeBron spoke at some point. He was part of the opening montage and that part went over. Well, there was no booing last night. You heard booing one time. Can we actually have some because I would like to hear what he actually said for the first time. So let's play this last night, courtesy the Miami Heat. Pretty. Yeah. I class last spin. They're passionate about the more. The glider. And dude, I fell into it. As soon as I saw cheaters face. I love going to these games as a fan. So I can just boo allowed as. And it was one of the more that and the Paul Pierce sucks chance. Those those awesome. Did you start? As soon as I heard he works. Honestly, I felt like from the left like it came from your sex colleague, right? And as soon as I picked up on it. I I had a crown Royal fueled sucks. What an incredible night. Oh my God. It was played. So well, fourth quarter was fun though. You Donna's was a little forced a little from you. That was part though. I thought those together you down as a couple of jumper hit a couple. Yeah. Let me check. Okay. You had one where it was inbounded to him. He took it all the way up court, and he was not asking anyone just took a shot, brick, whatever. The gate wait tried to gone. Derek Jones junior can wait how about Wade's attended alleyoop to himself. Oh, number seven is your the wars ice worth quarter doing who was that guy high Smith, I hate that guy think he may have saved Wayne embarrassment 'cause it didn't look like he was not it wasn't a good past himself. It was pretty high high Smith thirty point game. You gotta respect weight enough to at least let him attempt that thing. I listen I understand what you're saying based on Dwayne post game celebration. We have no idea whether he was gonna finish that Deng go off in fact now that I think about it Bill. You're right. Maybe save him something. If you're not familiar with what you got to say at the end of the game. Dwayne Wade tries to do the table jump. This is my house thing. One last time. So say tries to do it in the way that he's normally done it, which is just hop right on there. And he falls on his back. He had a microphone in his hand at the time. And he said, okay that was tragic. He's like, let's do it this way. He just sort of old man climbs on top of it. I don't know. What was the best part about last night? There was three three. Yeah. That was really fun. Just in terms of feel good. There was three moment. You open the game with dunk. Yeah. That was. Yeah. Game with a dunk, and then Dwayne Wade. Let me tell you twain weight would have dropped sixty last. If it wasn't for this idiot ref. Okay. High Highsmith the game likes right about this. The start of the game. Dwayne Wade has it cooking. He just dunked. And he's he's got the ball on his hands. And he goes for the patented pump fake the old win. And there's he got the guy to jump. You got the defendant a jump there's contact. You gotta make that foul. Call Dwayne Wade move and the referee makes it all about him. And he stole would have been a career high sixty points during because then he would have been on top. Then he's like, okay, I already got four points here. I'm just gonna go for sixty. I mean, that's that's all it takes to stop someone. That's on started this, call wait, Chris what were your moment? But when you're the opening montage where they broke down his career to act one two three. It was great. Oh, my God goosebumps the whole time, and then Zaire his son. I think it was recreating a commercial. The way he introduced him. Awesome. Dude. Goosebumps the entire time. Those were the two calls moments before the game, and then that fourth quarter, man, and pulp here sucks. The Paul Pierce. I mean, and then the ending the right? The falling down on the table. It was really cool. Why would you give Jimmy Butler your last home jersey? They're more on. I keep that jersey. If I was this one. This one. A little underwhelming give it to you. Oh, you give it to Gabby. You give it to your wife yourself, the better part of that deal. Oh, yeah. For sure did the he did more. He did the whole wait. Did anyone have an eye on that jersey was at the old switcheroo that we've seen a couple of? I was sitting right near the Heat's bench. There was multiple jersey changes last night for Dwayne Wade took I think he took off his jersey switched it out like every single time. He came out really the game. He's all his teammates, gotta jersey. Yeah. I wonder how they chose which when they wanted because they'll have different color jerseys. And what was the one that d-? Wade was holding up his agent. Hang hang that's super cool. That's really. Thomas heat are just spectacular at this. They treat their stars the best when they're not offering them the contracts desiring. That was incredible. That's one of my favorite sports memories. All my favorite, south, Florida. Sports memories. Okay. Outside of outside of the winning the champion the games, the finals games. I've been to this was by far the best will hold onto fell because we're a long ways away from having another sports memory. I was thinking last night. Do you think the other players were looking around last night? Like, wow, I'll never do. This will never happen to me. I'm just average like all the other players not not not the on the on. Like, I can't wait till I'm respected this way. That's happening to him. Right. Value. Like, I know it's popular thing to switch teams. Like you. I mean, I guess to Billy's boy did switch teams and he's still got last night. So, but he was gone. I was about the say I was about to say there's value in being with the same team. But I heard in the morning made a good points like the greatest player of his era. Lebron James isn't going to have exactly that which I don't know. I don't know. Like, I agree with as give it to you only. Lebron's rated by. Because we'll give them the Cavs. Yeah. Heat or gonna give them something not not that. He's not gonna get that probably get three every team is on or LeBron when he leaves four you know, what I mean by that. And I should articulate better the emotional connection that Miami had twain Wade if he goes back to Cleveland, he's gonna get if he goes back end his career in Los Angeles, which God knows now what's happening there. But if you ends his career in Los Angeles, he's not gonna have what we saw with weight last night feel like he will get it in Cleveland, regardless. I think play a final season in Cleveland has two key could get if he want that moment though, where you're playing your final home game. We'll eveland you have to go back. Celebrate right, right. I do have a speaking. Why wouldn't the Cavs want that it's total money grab? I mean. Who cares? People will he'll sell out every game. I do have sneaking suspicion that this isn't the last uniform that he puts on I mean said he wants to play BT. Teammates with his son. I mean, it's not like, well the Lakers might actually be in the lottery by then considering that tire fire. We'll talk more about that next to God's ear apply for a loan is a lot like applied for job that you don't get to interview for instead don't companies make their decisions based off your credit score and history without getting the note, the whole you now. Thanks, upstart dot com. It never has to be that way. Again, unlike traditional credit underwriting, which could be biased against people with a short credit history. Upstart goes beyond traditional FICO scores. When assessing your credit worthiness. Upstart believed you're more than just your credit score. They make it fast simple and easy to check your rate in less than two minutes without affecting your credit score the best part once you're approved. The funds will be transferred to you. 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But I wasn't that wrong. I mean, it essentially was to on five and has them wages run in the pick and roll fourth quarter. Alright. So confirmed has them did indeed make two shots. He was of. Two sets of seven and ten minutes with a team worst by far minus fourteen. Eric was so excited to say you done you did it. So. I was excited to hear. I think I heard him do it on an assist at one point. I think the first one was an assist city. He just needs to get this out of his system. He didn't have an assist. Oh, we didn't have four rebound. I don't know. Why he said it how how the charge? Don't forget the charge. How was that? I think that's what it was. I think it might have been on the chart. Yeah. Vintage vintage how was he re? I remember I predicted yesterday that he'd cry. Eric reed. Grow total pro there were so motion moments. But he agreed handles that stuff great. He's a professional broadcaster. He's fantastic. So. I would fail in that spot. And I fell most bots. I felt my way all the way here. But Eric Reed was was great lists. As a broadcaster yesterday. You would have gotten involved in the Paul Pierce sucks chance. Oh, no question about it. I would have started it. There was a time that and up Miami fans. Miami fans were told to be there at seven they were actually there at seven. That's a great way. Does it was raining? Yeah. There were two lanes closed on ninety five people were in their seats. And I told you they were gonna Miami time us. Oh, they absolutely Miami. Type start till seven thirty. No, the real stuff started at seven thirty. They had some Dwayne Wade in Centric programming like giveaways like, hey, put these wait faces an order right in his career time line. But that was to make sure you were there in your seats by the time. It caught got around for twain way to be honored. They bumped tip off back about twenty five minutes. And no one seemed to leave either after the game was over like this looks completely full. Yeah. I heard I was at the urinal at the end of the game. And and Eric Reed said not a fan had left his seat. And I looked around on like, it's true. And the only guy p in here, the only I am the one fan actually was such a crowd in like people were it was like six fifty three ish. And I'm in a line. Fine getting into the Rena. So I'm looking and it's a long line because everyone was trying to get there early. And I finally got inside. But I really had to p and it's like seven a one at this point. So I go in the bathroom unlocked, the heart of science, I don't think many I have no idea. I'm sorry cookers. So I go into the bathroom. And so I hear Michael be on the thing. Then welcome to 'cause they weren't officially starting. 'cause they didn't start seven thirty. But he just like address the crowd. I started panicking me. And this guy Alex recognize me from the show. He wanted me to say his name. So there it is Alec. We had to. Alex, Alex, actually because he said with C, so it's Alex, Alex, whatever. Anyway, we had we looked at each other. And we were like do we have time to wash our hands? Because Michael be right now is making the announcement. I'm thinking it's about to start. How long does it take you to wash your Alec didn't wanna do it? And I said, I'm washing my hand -ality executive decisions. Alec the guy that had uncomfortable people yet because you had a more member more memorable bad with Alec. No this Alex. Listen to this because I met up with Chris at halftime. It was nice that game. We we shared a nice moment. And Chris foamy this story. Wait, what happened at halftime? I wouldn't have left my seat. I would have thought something was going to happen. Fries is something right. What they did was. They showed the entire Budweiser red panda their entire Budweiser commercial during halftime, we're good. Yeah. We we were right anyway. So at the stall, it it was just before halftime. I'm going to the bathroom mean, not a stall. Actually, I'm at the urinal all of a sudden no-one says my name all of a sudden, I feel a chin on my right shoulder. And it's just some guys in. Hey, can I get a picture, and I'm like, dude, I feel like you have a good enough picture already comfortable moment in my life. Let's say a picture of what right. He literally said to me I'm doing this just to get on the show. So he actually it worked out to shoot account. Okay. But you say it was, Dan. Good. He would do that picture. But the most awkward bashing picture with me. Okay. There isn't a scenario which someone putting their chin on my shoulder that I don't know is an awkward, and that's certainly the most awkward place. Honestly that dude like I would not have taken that nearly as well as you did. I know get the hell away from I gave them a picture to really your hands. I'm sorry. Closure on Alec was saying we have time. We kind of had a moment was like do I need to. And then we watched her hands. Did you watch fans after the shoulder? You just met Alec though. Right. Yeah. Seem strange that you guys would coordinate your your you know, that in the bathroom. Knowledge that you do what you want to do. And I'll do what I wanted. Right. That's just because he knew I was doesn't mean. We're connected on this. Did you drive the handwrite? Or would you not on dry Jane's thing where you like your hands off? I have a question for you guys kind of related to this. And this is gonna sound gross in, you know, pardon me, if you've never experienced this. But like, you know, when you use the urinal sometimes, there's a sponge pack factor. Yeah. So like you have to kind of go. I try to go at an angle to avoid the direct splash back on the thing as you. Right. You gotta aim down to avoid the splash splash. If it's a good stream bounce. We have to give love to those those mats that they put in certain urinals at avoid the splash back all together on it just foamy, and that's that's an incredible invention. Well, all right. So this is you know, we're not doing life hack attack. But I'm gonna give one to you right now. So this is what I do. Sometimes if I get this black back, and I'm wearing light color shorts pants, whatever where you can see. Oh my God. Like, there's a drip here because it was splashed back. Right, right. What you do is go over the top you go you wash your hands. And then when you're done, washing your hands. You kinda stand up. I don't know why I'm standing because. No one needs to see this. You get your hands wet and instead of drying, you just kinda shit and just make a whole ladder all over your shorts, and it all blends ending like, oh my God. I got slashed by the water. I can't believe it. That is I practice. This. Religiously often happens here, the clevelander Mike well in all the time, then I walk out here. And it looks like I was in a rainstorm sometimes with my shorts 'cause I got or splash back on. Got to cover this up. The only way to more water. Indoor levine. In LeVine word association with the stadium. Uralde cakes. Not urinal cakes. Just anytime I go to the bathroom like time to check up on ended Levin there at every stadium right in your face as you every time. I see them at one of the events because it comes events. I'm like, hey. Yeah. I know you're from the year in feet on you. Tuck -nology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth. You think you can solve any problem by turning computer offense on him and let the turn off and on probably it smoking yet just museum to recruit truth. It's so easy to switch. Avon car insurance at geiko dot com. In Nelson, fire happens all the time. So good. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more donlevatar. No. What's that music? I'm not sure. Happy like what you're there. To gods. Open. Cooking. Good serve. Show with the stugatz on the ticket. I don't wanna be the guy. I don't want to be Dan Dan says that we're never going to get this again. I mean, you win the lottery gets Williamson. You get the replacement right away. I understand that. We don't have a world class elite level player and that's fair to barky. I understand right. I see again mad at me. Yeah. But it's, but it's hockey, and we can all agree there. Maybe maybe Miami gets that with whatever Beckham does with inter Miami. Because of Rinaldo comes here or messy comes here. Honestly, if Rinaldo or messy comes here or even Antoine grease men, if they come here, it's not the same. I getting them at towards the tail end of their career. Twain. That'll be really exciting. I mean. Yeah. But tell another career you see what Wayne Rooney's doing you probably don't Wayne Rooney washed. I mean booze hound in fact, he just got a DUI for DC United. The guy was done in the Premier League. Just watched comes into MLS dominates right dominating plan. I think you're both right here that will be a huge deal if we get messy lateness, but it's not gonna be doing weight like he won't have that connect. But I know will see Rinaldo and be like, oh my God Miami Renaldo he played Miami. Pelican I understand. They're not pelicans rains. What are they egrets goes? I they're not there. They're not. They're certainly not. Play for the fusion. Yes. He did. Was that a big thing? Not that I love. And honestly like you. Messi in would dominate MLS into their fifties. Yeah. But it's not the greatest soccer players of all time. But would someone say, oh, my God messy? Oh, I thought the Miami United. I don't know. I actually think Dan's right to go against what you're saying, Mike because even if we got Zay on there's no guarantee he's going to be good first off or be what weight is I think he's going to be Blake Griffin. Even if he's Blake Griffin. I mean, that's not. That's not wait when marina was retiring everyone. I'm sure was saying the same over never gonna Dan Marino in this town again. I mean, guys sorry sort of be bear bad news. But you probably will have someone else. And that's a good thing. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Bad news to be. I mean, some hell. Have you had three of them on the same team? Just right like years ago thing. Podge is say sorry. I think you're going to have another franchise player that everybody loves it's okay. Dwayne Wade is a generational player. He was a different generation than Dan Marino. There will be one face of south Florida sports, are cough will not be bark off what's it will not be bar called. Well, look if the Panthers once captured the hearts of this town with the rats ninety six if Barkov can have a run like that where the winning championships people will gravitate towards the championships, and maybe he can get ridiculously as it sounds. Maybe you can get into the conversations top, south, Florida athletes of all time. Greg Cody was trying to make the argument during one of the brakes. Roberta Longo is probably the third most famous south Florida sports athlete in terms of greatness, and what they meant to the community. So if he's doing that for Longo, can you imagine if Barkov doesn't actual winning now, he's not this captivating personality. We're going to have to work on that a little bit, right? But what happened last night was incredibly special and Billy? I was really surprised 'cause I don't know if you saw the pre-game video where they were doing three acts. I taped it to go back and watch it right after he text me he said, that's it. Well, okay. Because this is what happened. So I made sure to be by my television by six thirty. 'cause I thought it was. Like really early. And then when it wasn't on my all, right? I'm gonna put on the Marlins game. So I put on the Marlins game because they started are we at six forty first pitch. And then I was doing some stuff. I was doing some work type some stuff up and I lost track of time. And it was seven ten and I was like oh crap. So I go on I switch over to the heat. And I'm like good MS. Anything I hit record. I didn't even hear the via was going on. And then I hear joint come to the microphone. I'm like. Okay. Good. Like, I'm gonna go over a ninety seconds speech where he just basically said his teammates. And I'm like, that's it. And like, no, you missed the video video the video was 'cause I guess Dwayne saved his address of the fans for post game in which he fell while trying to get up on the table. And maybe, you know, maybe it is time ago considering how that experience one, but LeBron James went his voice and face to act too. So they did three axes very traumatic Spoelstra is like every like the third act is where the hero or the man becomes heroes. Very well. So he just voice like the whole can act was and part of this out. It's not hang bring and Magic Johnson was in charge over there. And he obviously doesn't know any of the tampering rules. So they actually aknowledged I thought they were just going to ignore the Chicago thing all together. But they couldn't tell the story of what Wayne meant to this town without telling the story of his return. It was a throwing at the very end of act to LeBron's just the pretend it didn't happen put on Instagram picture of him and suppose sitting next to each other on the scores table at sixteen years of these conversations. Like, maybe do you think they stop talking when he went to Chicago? I don't think they were sitting on the scores fable. Maybe I'm maybe I'm four times a year that they've played each other basically said yet the lead the city to find out how blue of you are in the city don't. Yeah. You could just stay was that LeBron said, that's rich. Pun intended, by the way, maybe he just constantly wants to know how much it means the cities, which is why he keeps leaving right? Well, I don't know if he's ever going to mean that Los Angeles considering how that's going, man. This Magic Johnson thing. What a whirlwind. I haven't really processed all the sound. I saw some clips on Twitter, and I cannot believe Magic Johnson it would appear and not appeared because he's sitted as much I find it. Just so hard believe he called that press conference and quit before he spoke to Jeanie Buss. Like, that's how they found out. It's weird set it out. Right. He did it tiller, and I have to go through my words because I got all these things happening. I was in Dwayne Wade mode. And and it was all a lot to process leave. I saw something that said that Rich Paul and LeBron actually met with Magic Johnson, and rob Pelinka, and they had no inclination that this was going to happen. So Rachel Nichols. Ask him like do you think, you know? Maybe you should've told Jeannie before you made this announcement. And he's like, no, I think it was fine. The way it did because it would have been emotional, and we would have cried. And she would've talked me into staying. So I think I did the right thing here. My god. What a clown show. Okay. Here's a. The tweet from whoa JR. Magic johnson. Rob Blanca, vid visited with LeBron James agent, Rich Paul and Saturday league sources, tell ESPN Johnson offered no indication that they were on that. He was on the brink of bailing on the Lakers. Okay. Back. Alert. Like, here's a prediction. He's going to be back with that organization. Someway, I heard the morning talking about in kind of speculating that you're gonna see Riley's name pop up here. I'm glad you mentioned that because. Yeah. That's the obvious place. And then Tobin won it by saying Riley should trade himself to the Lakers or LeBron. Everyone's happy. I mean, I know he fans to be a little sad that Riley's gone. We don't want rally, but that would be a way to go out to get LeBron would make that decision on the Lakers side when they could just hire him without trading. Like, they could just how do you think that would go with LeBron over there? Like, you think? Lebron's like. Yeah. Bring over Pat. I I don't think that that you think they're gonna make this decision without talking a little bit. I think Pat and LeBron good. I don't think that they they have big of a beat was the guy a few months back that spoke out. It was like a former clippers. It was a wizards wizard. Video coordinating, speculate that Riley. Wants to go there and wants to bring spo-. Okay. It's hogwash right nine. Here's why it's fun to talk. And I'm not even like the guy may have heard that. And that's fine. Someone with credibility might might have said that. But Erik Spoelstra is a line to take over Pat Riley's role. So Pat decides to go to Los Angeles, which I honestly think is something that we're going to be hearing. I think you're gonna at least here his name out there. And I'm totally sealants as take right now. You can tell him of the show this morning, but that would be a weak ass move. If he if he quit on on this the championship, culture and everything. And now when the franchise is about as far away from being good as they've been since I pick number two and got Michael Beasley that would be. And even then I think the further away now because even then they had prime. Wade still. So this is probably the furthest away. The Miami Heat have been from championship to do that. Now would be week. It's why I don't think it will happen. But special would be the guy to replace him. Why would Spoelstra just follow Pat Riley to Los Angeles. And and not take a promotion here. I feel like there's a whole list of people saying that Riley spot. You could make the argument that shame baddie as I waited Lonzo mooring Dwayne Wade. I feel like there's a canal Berg essentially move into that role. I mean, he's jeez already. But he could be both like I mean, he I'm sure he would take that gig. I feel like there's a lot of heat guys that are, you know, thinking that they have a shot at that role. Yeah. Wade would probably campaign from Bosch will probably be Bosch to. Yeah. So is that a good idea though? No sponsors, the guy the guy in Pat Riley says it says it's so definitively like it's not why is this even a conversation. Who's going to replace me lead me to believe that this is certainly a conversation. That's been had with Kierra navy. Stan Van Gundy Ziying that role. Well, we have seen. Or or or pats waiting there? Yes. It's going to bring Eric with them. And they're in cahoots and they've been talking to Jean this whole time in listen on this whole magic thing blows up. Give me a call and bring back. Eric don't be we got this all handle you want to deal with Luke anymore. We're good. We're good. Trust me Jeanie. And then he has the heat very calm. So they're not making any promises, and then he leaves them in total shambles I want to know what the move is here because we all know village. Just all you know, I wanna know what you think because you accuse LeBron James of being the most calculated player, and this thing stinks to high hell, and it has his fingerprints all over it. I'm not sure how right. Maybe the sports whispered to tell me exactly how. But this feels like some sort of setup. What's the play here? What's the master plan? I think it's one of two things I think it's Riley and spo- is Billy just pointed out or it is Griffin. And Tyron low, I think it is. I think the LeBron's innocent. I think this is a classic ever in this. Classic CSI Miami episode where he's to obviously the person that's responsible, and he may just be cleaned. This time. No question like Pelinka was general manager there. Would it be ridiculous? If Rich Paul becomes GM.

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Eric Kasimov and John Priore | The State of Major League Baseball

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Eric Kasimov and John Priore | The State of Major League Baseball

"Welcome to the sports e preneurs podcast, the podcasts were sports and entrepreneurship collide, a cat source family production in this episode. We discuss the state of major league baseball. This podcast exists in large part because of calcium to content marketing business inside cat sourcing. So what does calcium? Do you know how many business leaders need help communicating their story? Will. That's what we do content creation and distribution for business. Leaders this provides opportunities relationships and a platform for you and your business. Why do we do this, because a calcium leagues ists help business leaders, build a meaningful legacy? That is worth living, an Annely. Learn more by visiting calcium dot com. America's pastime but his baseball just that a pastime while financially, the MLB is growing. There seemed to be some issues with the sport as we look ahead. We discussed some of the issues we believe are going on with major league baseball and look at some ways baseball could get back to being that pastime so many love. So let's get right into it. Baseball's got its own unique thing which is going to the ballpark have a great day, have a hot dog sing songs, you know, hang out with your family. You can chat like you can actually go to the game, and actually talk to the person next to you, as opposed to when you go to a football game. You're so dialed into the game. There's there's, there's a little conversation, but not like you have a baseball game. It's a different experience than either kinda like showcase at experience. I was just a heard something that, like every year in the last, how many years seven years, and we can look that up like how many years in a row that the they've set a record for the most amount of strikeouts. And they compare it people were comparing it to the amount of three pointers that have been made him basketball, and people are frustrated by like, how many three pointers of made in basketball, and I agree with that. But at the same time, like a three pointers made that's interesting. That's scoring. It's, it's a successful thing like someone shoots the ball and it goes in that, that's. Success. When someone strikes out. Yeah. One person succeed in the pitcher. But it's like there's no action. The ball was never put in play. There's not a pitch ball, hit catch throat a I even like the guys is literally like has an like put his head down and walk to the dugout. Like that's not fun to watch, but yet that keeps going up and in basketball, yet there's some issues with that and maybe they the transition of the game. But like the amount of three pointers being made like every team is setting records for the amount of three pointers, or even attempting and then making direct data Stally Jordan one year had twelve three pointers the entire year and still led the league in scoring and like it's impossible. But anyway, like, what are you doing? That's what is baseball doing. That's different that's gonna intrigue people. But maybe there's a way to do it even with the strikeouts going up like, yeah, there's not a lot of game action. But this is a sport. You can come to. And now you have to have the good ballpark for it. So you can't go to like trashy ballparks. I think that's like I want to go to that park. And that's why I look at Camden Yards, and I'm like you're really not going. I get it. They're not good. But you really think you're going to compete with the Yankees and the Red Sox on an annual basis like one or two out of ten years. Maybe you get them, but like most of the time you shouldn't. Yeah. No, that's it for my point of view. I'm a huge baseball fan grew up with baseball playing baseball. So I can literally for me going to a baseball game, especially you wanna talk about major league baseball going to a major league baseball stadium. Go to a game. There's nothing like sports like being outside hanging out relaxing watching baseball and you talk about, like you don't have to pay attention to the game the entire game. However, I mean there are a lot of drawbacks to it. Yes. It's like you have to plan for it because it's going to be about four hours. The may shortly tiny did. But it's still going to be about four hour. Right. You have to go you have the park into walk to the stadium, everything that you're going to do it a normal venue. But at the same time baseball is not where you go. And, you know you go and you're gonna get action. The entire four hours, you may actually only have action for twenty five minutes. Because like you said the strikeout rate they're up. People are grounded out like crazy. So it is boring to a lot of people. But I think when you when you find the right person like myself, but that is my favorite events forty event to go to, because I can glittery like you said like be outside. You know, grab a drink hang out with Fred talk have conversation. It turns into to social event like so you're going out there and you, you maybe you go with two friends or maybe it's a date night. Whatever it is, you can literally have your own world with while still being at a fun sporting event. And I think it's also like getting into the stadium talk. And like you're seeing a lot of these new stadiums develop programs for kids. They're developing even for adults. They're all putting putting bars putting restaurants putting whatever it is inside the inside the venue to where maybe you go and you watch the game for the first two inning. And then you're walking around innings, let's say three to six you're out, you know grabbing a hot dog. You're hanging. Out in the standing room section. They're playing like your your seat, how fast you can pitch like all that fun stuff that you can do to kill an hour and a half. And then you go back and you watch the end of the game. And that makes it less boring that, that gives the kids something to do. Because the kid is if you let's say, you're, you're apparent parent, right? You have a young kid. There is not a good chance that they're going to sit down and watch a baseball game from from back without being rowdy. Without wanted to do something else. So think they're noticing that in both kids and adults to give everyone kind of that, that whole game day experience like Atlanta does a great job of that Atlanta. You can go there and you don't even have to watch any part of the game to still feel like you're at a ballpark, you're, you're getting the fun and the excitement and the offense out of it. But yeah, I mean compared to other sports, not as exciting and they do have a lot of issues when it comes to paying attention because even you know, obviously attendances down at most stadiums, but, you know. It just depends on where they are. Will park it it. Yeah. It's not a highlight reel sport. I always remember lakeland when sportscenter was in its heyday, watching baseball highlights is low great. He hit hold on the run once in a while you get a spectacular catch, and those are fun. But sometimes I wonder like are they trying to compete against basketball with L UCS or football, or, or just intrigued like you can even look at soccer like there's things that happen at the last second just there's different things going on the intrigues? Not the same as what a baseball baseball's. Like you just have been saying it's got its own element. I'll say like so Atlanta I was there as well as well last year. Great ballpark, and you actually don't even have to sit in your seats to watch the game, most of these ballparks now you can walk you can walk around, and you still see the game from where you're at from most places in the stadium. The problem is though when you do go to the game and yeah, you can go, and you go an Uber, especially if you're gave drinks too great idea ticket Uber or lift to the game. Get dropped off in front can leave and do the same thing. But again, let's be honest, a lot of people are. Gonna drive their car there. And the parking is absurd. So, like we parked, and it was a really it was an August day, and it was. I mean, it would had to be ninety something degrees, and very humid. And, you know, I looked like, well, there's parking there, fifty dollars that seems a little bit excessive but I get it like you're in a big city but still crazy. So we drove around and like the other spots were so far away like the walk alone would have been worth Uber. You know, and like you see families parking, they're going over a bridge and get into the stadium, and it's like, you know, and I ended up saying, I was with my daughter, we just parked across the street and paid fifty or six whatever it was, like, here's my credit card like whatever it costs like this is worth it then you walk into the game. So from that standpoint, that's like, really, you got to pay that much to park, but I get it though cities do it, but that is a that's going to detract people from showing up, especially if you're just going for a little bit. So what type of fan are they trying to bring that stadium? The half to have the money to have dropped fifty to one hundred. Dollars on whatever it is on parking or driving in a Uber to the game. And then when you're in the game, it can be expensive, like Mercedes-Benz stadiums a little bit different for the football team, where it's low cost, but, you know, I just wonder like how can they how can they meet in the middle little bit? But then showcase, maybe that is it, it is like the throwback to having a conversation and being able to, like, run around. See how fast you can run fast. You can pitch kids love that stuff and go to the games, just to like, get up to the monitor and you know, see what they're what they're fastballs looking like, you know, so I just I don't know what they're so many games, but it's that opportunity to show up to the ballpark, and be with friends family, or just taking the scene of a ballpark, but I don't. But the people aren't taking to it because you look at some of the better ballparks Kansas City was low Baltimore's low Cleveland, who's had a great team for all these years. And as awesome sports town you turn on their games. They don't have fans there. I mean you look at a lot of Yankees and even Red Sox games. Like they're not showing. Up as much. It's just I don't know why. And I think a lot of people are just kind of bored with the sport maybe and just like that strikeout rate, and all these different things are way up. I'm not sure what the answer is definitely, we've talked about this before, is branding. I think there's so few recognizable players nowadays that you're like you're not excited to go the ballpark to see this guy. We were at the Charlotte sports collectibles, and like mmediately see the Ricky Henderson rookie card. And that was my guy. Like if he was on TV, and he was up to bat or he was on base. I watched every single anytime AL's around a TV and anytime he was on TV which wasn't a lot. And I think maybe that's part of it, too. Like these games are successful. But here's the other thing talking about that. And kind of really going on a tangent like in Charlotte. Your blacked out from Atlanta Baltimore Washington. And I might be missing a team or two there's a couple of teams that you're missing. So if you're in buffalo who doesn't have a major league team your blackout. From the Yankees thanked the Yankees, the Blue Jays the Indians and the pirates. And I'm like, wait a second. So you want me to be fan? I get it. You want me to show up to the stadium, but you have to create that connection with me. And if I get to see him on TV every so often, like, give me that content a little bit for free or make me pay a little bit for it. But now I can't even watch the game even if I wanna pay one hundred and fifty or one hundred eighty dollars for the package, you're not even gonna let me if I live in Charlotte, who doesn't have a major league team watch the Braves game. And now my kids are not going to be a fan of the Braves, which is what they used to be you live in Charlotte. You usually became Braves fans and then you would couple trips down the down to Atlanta every year to watch the Braves. Now you don't really have a connection with team because guess what? You can't even watch the team unless they're on ESPN and it's kinda like they're alienated. They're not realizing that their, their brand their story is the game. Me watch the game. And then I'll buy all the other stuff that comes with it, because it my kids, a Braves fan now, kid could care less about the Braves. You know, I mean that's it breaks branding is the big thing. And then I think like what you talked about with the blackout, you know, the blackout problem is a major problem because when I so I grew up, obviously a Long Island, New York, huge met fan. I watch all in that thing making there because I was on Long Island, right? Like they had it on every or s unwise. So every station had us and live those back when I was in cable was still really big and everyone has cable. So as to why was always an option any bar. You go into the Mickey movie on any restaurant, whatever it when did you come to other areas like you mentioned Charlotte? Most people that I started to meet that were baseball fans are bracing who live in Charlotte. If they have a team the others, there'd frankly a lot of baseball fans that don't have a team or they don't even want baseball because like you said, you get 'em OBT, let's say to watch all the games you can't watch the Braves game. So why should I drive for hours Atlanta to go to a Braves game? Game. When for myself, usually when the Mets are actually there this weekend. I'm not going, but when the Mets play the brazen Atlanta, I'm going at least once a year because I'm a huge fan. I'll see them in person. That's the closest place to see them. Plus they haven't ice ballpark the atmosphere is awesome. But that probably wouldn't have happened, if I couldn't have watched a bunch of Mets games as a kid, I couldn't go to the park, which was twenty minutes away like all this stuff that adds up that they have to build that relationship with them from the star. Like, I know you talked about your son being big, Colorado Rockies thin, because you guys have been to Colorado when he loves the stadium. And now he buys a year. Maybe loves knowing our air Nado, now he's favorite player. But to the average fan like no one an auto what top five player probably right now in the league, and most people don't even know who he is like the average base. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And just be he commutes small-market. He can be an Denver's on a small market, but now he's not in New York or LA or whatever it is. You could still be huge brand but like. If you live in certain areas near Denver, you probably can't even watch him play. And it's like really think they're missing the boat on being able to consume the product watch the teeth. It's a TV show, right? Like that's all it is the game is a TV show. Let me watch the show. I become a fan of it. Then I buy the merchandise. I show up a kids, a fan, then you'd become then it's ingrained in you like you're saying, then you're a Mets fan, Lee. You're just it's just ingrained in you and you want to be a part of it. And I think that probably I think we probably, so I solved the riddle as to what's going on with with these games. But no, I mean because it is like you said, it's, it's a popular sport to with football with concussion issues. You have a lot of kids who are not playing. Yeah. You can get hit by pitch, but it's going to be less frequent than obviously. And every play you're going to be a collision in football. So, like there's a local school here and I heard about, like just the trials, for example, for the for the middle school team like they had so many kids show up to the tryouts at wanted to play baseball, obviously, like the sport. And they're willing to play this Morton washes. And learn this and do all these different things. And then, like you turn on the TV, and it's like their kids aren't going to the game and why daddy get it because expense to and there's all these different elements like make it acceptable. Get these kids that show up. Why aren't the ticket prices? Why do you have to over inflate? Why do I have to pay all these extra fees? You're like no, you know what? Forget it to take a family of four to the game now. I mean, the minneap ticket prices probably fifty fifty bucks for, for a major league team. Yeah. You probably get some lower ones, but it's overpriced. So then they never yet developed the fans over many years to where it's like you were born this fan and you just live the team, and they just don't have that more people are born. That's why football is getting them all because, you know, same thing football's very expensive, but people will pay to go to those events because it's just that's the big game in town. And the players are so recognizable in the brand in the organization of the sport. And all the things that go with it, but but baseball was the pastime. Football was everybody. You know, that's you know that's just that's how it was. And it's just not that way right now. Yeah. Why do you think could to add onto that add on what you talked about before the one hundred sixty two games is a lot of games? And as we get into like to go to a game if you're not buying a ticket, right? You talked about you're buying party. You're buying a drink food, whatever it is. And it's gonna end up being expensive night. You can't do that all eighty or eighty eighty one times a year which routed to eighty right? You can't go to eighty games and you know, spent one hundred bucks a night, just by yourself. That's without family four you're spending a good bit fans that wanna do that, like you literally have to save up. If you're the average Joe to go to a baseball game and baby you go to a couple of games year where it's fine and you love to go enjoy it. And but because what you see, though is one playoff baseball comes around the stadiums are full or most of like the, the high market team. Team. The good teams like that have these fantasies, they're sold out during their playoff series like the take the Mets when they were in the doing their playoff run a couple of years ago like to get a ticket at city, feel it was the hot place to be because the best hadn't been the playoffs that a while, and they haven't been good in a while. There was so much excitement. But again they build those fans from years of suffering to finally having success and that take it's going to be a hot ticket. You know, but you're not doing that time of year like the once in a lifetime thing because it's the stakes oh my right. I mean, that's always the case when when, like college basketball, so that when the games is like every game you could see it was not as either not an incredible atmosphere like Cameron indoor stadium. You know, but you take it to like some average. It's okay. You don't you don't get the same field but when you bring the stakes of high, it's the final four and he got seventy two thousand people can fit in a football stadium with the dome. That's different. People are going to show up because it's the final four. It's been branded to the point of like this is it. So people pay double pay for the World Series because it doesn't come around a lot. I've one hundred sixty two chances to go. Yeah I'm not going to go today. I'll go next week. I'll go the week after and I don't have a real tied to it. But that's the whole thing. It's like that's when the stakes are high book to me baseball so often is not about the stakes. Yeah. When you get to play off baseball. And yeah there's a few teams that are lucky enough to have success during the season. And that's a lot of fun to watch and it's a lot of fun to get behind. But I to me, it's almost like you can watch baseball game and take a nap and fall asleep or have a hot dog or go to, and I'm talking about, like, if you're at home, for example, that's there's something to it. And there's something peaceful about, and I think people do like that. I think they have like the ball game on in the background like that's a lot of fun. To me. Some people it's like well that sounds like the most boring thing. Ever. But, but like that, but that's the intrigue of baseball. And maybe something that they're missing that they're not going after like, hey, come to the ballpark. Have a hot dog chat with your kid, like just showing fathers and sons at the game hanging out together. Like, maybe that's the K your team's terrible. They've lost ten in a row like, oh well like you're Coors field. Like what could be worse places pretty awesome. There's a lot of other. Yeah. I guess it's not gonna work in Tampa and it's not gonna for where they are right now. It's not gonna work in some of these other stadiums. But. In some cities are going to struggle anyway, because it, they're going to have a hard draw have a hard time drawing fans to any event, unless they are the best team in the world. That's, that's a whole nother issue that's a market issue. But anyway, no, I think that's all that stuff is kind of where out with baseball because in, then they keep they look at expansion, and, like, how are we going to expand it when you can't even get people to show up to where they are now unless they change kind of a little bit like maybe going back a little bit and allowing access to their players allowing access to the teams branding the players lighting the players brand themselves to a certain extent, because you would imagine some of these guys are coming from these different countries. They have a following a you know, and allow them to get out there. Yeah. No, I mean because like diving back into branding. Like when you look at what they're doing with also week in baseball. They're doing a really good job. So there might players like Mike dub is a big thing. These days like fans loved to see the players talk during the game. They love to hear like when you watch the football. Mike dubs like bigger Mayfield like just going out and running around and talking to his guys like I enjoy watching that stuff. I'm sure most sports fans love watching that and you feel like you're connected with him. Baseball did that during the all star game last year and they've done it during some spring training games and baseball's a sport where I feel like you can be like, Mike ups aware. If you're a Red Sox vein Mookie Betts is in the outfield and he just kinda like talking about what he talking about the game while the on, I'm gonna be super treat. If I'm a Red Sox fan or if I'm a young athlete wanting to learn more about baseball again that probably doesn't get thin for the game unless you're that kid. You're listening. You bet and near learning about the sport, you then tie your swing and little league to, to make your swing be like Mookie best, like I remember I loved Jose, Ray is growing up, and I literally made my swing Jose. Reyes is like I conduct swing. And he was my number one athlete like the misery signed after he left, like four years. I was more excited than like anybody about it because he was who I grew up wanna get I bought a jersey did all that stuff. So I think it's also like one making you trying to feel connected to the athlete branding, the athletes, so you can't do that in less, they have some kind of branding on any level. And then ultimately that will either get the fan to go to a game to watch it on TV to buy the merchandise, but it's a little is a little mixture of all these things. And I think they're seeing it which is why you're seeing some changes baseball. But at the same time, there's still trying to keep death pastime. So I don't know where it goes from here. But that's I mean that's yeah. There is the national pastime aspect of it, and I think that's what a lot of people want to continue. But you have to do that in a framework that works for today's viewer knowing that capacity, they can take things like you said before no one's watching kids aren't watching the game. Start to finish most money, Dulce aren't either. You know, but there is something about like the story time aspect of basil like before just enjoying it. So if you're at the ballpark or even not at the ballpark and you're watching the game on TV. It's the story time, it's those those analysis that can carry that message across, you know, we talk about podcast and you can listen to a podcast we were talking about before about, like people would go by the radio, and they would all crowd around the radio, and they would listen to the game because the color commentator, the announcer would would give such a, a story about it, and they could fill in the gaps of all of the non action of which there was a lot, and they would tell the story about where this guy came from or family or what he did the last time he was up to bat or a story about a manager when he was a kid who. Knows what the stories about an in the middle of it. They're talking about the two one pitch at the three to pitch and a routine. Pop lie becomes a story that someone could tell and I think that's that's still exists in a way. But like it not if I can't see the game, it doesn't exist. So I live in buffalo. Let's say and I'm a big Indians fan. Why can't watch the game? So you're not gonna let me watch that game. Yeah. Maybe I can find it on the radio somewhere. But again you have to do it. No one's listening to it on the radio right now. No one's even turn it on FM AM radio anymore, if they're in their car, their even they're listening to Sirius XM radio or most likely listening to a podcast or Spotify or Pandora. So how can I consume the content in that world? Do does a team sign in a rain deal with Pandora to say we're going to broadcast all Cleveland Indians baseball games? And, you know, I don't know who that the rights are what the collective bargaining agreement says about that. And probably they probably can't do it. But is there a time when that comes about, if you want to listen to all the Cleveland Indians baseball doesn't matter where you are? Get pandora. And you can listen to all the games, and we got the best announcer, and we got this, and we've got that and people will tune in, because they can maybe hear stories maybe it's their form of podcast, and they're driving, or couple hours or just they get it for thirty minutes. Because sometimes it's all I want is I just want to thirty minutes, and then I want to turn it off. And on move on the next thing, and I'll check the score later but I got thirty minutes of it and sometimes that's all you need till I checked him the game. I didn't need to watch the whole thing. I got the part that I and it's the story and you take in the old with the new, and, and you combine it at all. And I mean, I think like you said, it's gonna take time and I don't know where where they go with it because a lot of people need to make money off of it, but the Greek can get in the way, and I think that's what's happened when can't even consume the game in different parts of the country if that's where your team or the team that you might eventually root for would be so anyway. It's a, it's a fascinating conversation because it's a sport that's been around a long time. I don't see it going anywhere. But certainly run into the problems right now in fascinate, because we're in the marketing business when you watch this sport. That's it. Well, actually monetarily by Mao could they be doing so much better? Oh, yeah. It's nuts. I mean that's. I think we covered it all and one little aspect. I wanna get like touch on real quick, was there that they're trying to adapt to we get into marketing and social media and everything like that was last year when they added Facebook live to those games. So anyone could watch those for free on Facebook live. They're doing that this year thing was like, maybe we look twenty games or something like that. I'm doubt don't know the exact number. They also got a lot of backlash because, you know, it wasn't production was off. It was like weird like you know, they've got it was the first year. Right. So they're doing all that. But they're trying that shows that like they're trying to take those old time old time you know whatever it is. And try to get it into the new age era. That's Facebook, Instagram. That's however they get into it. But yeah. So the issues. But I think I mean you know, they're doing well monetarily like that people in the seats. I am. 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6/29/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 4 (9am-10am)

Boomer & Gio

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6/29/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 4 (9am-10am)

"Just quickly and we don't have to get into it because boomer's not interested. I don't blame them. You got big game tonight for the mets and yankees because of the way. The teams are playing. They're not scoring runs. They don't look like what you expected them to be. Players that you expect to have higher average is hitting home runs are not doing it. The pitching has turned sort of south in a lot of different ways. And you've got two teams that are not going in the right direction. Now you can look at the standing. Say yeah but the mets are in first place they are but the mets should probably and i by ten games as opposed to three and a half and have a team charging on them right now and it's not a good division. They really should have a better lead. And they're not doing their job. And the yankees. Who closed the gap after what we deemed a very good weekend against the as last week have really backwards. Since and all of a sudden they find themselves seven and a half back in the al. And you gotta come on. You gotta win these games. Now you had otani the homerun last night. You'll see the angels again. This evening otani will pitch tomorrow. The yankees and mets of course will collide over the weekend in the subway series. So you talk about a pressurized series that will be one for sure. Especially if these next three games for the mets and the yankees. Go the wrong way which quite possibly could happen. Given the way that both of these teams plan. I think most fans know who the culprits are. Most fans know who is not having a good year. You could point at a handful of guys on each of these teams say that either. They've been too injured or they've been way too inconsistent and we know about the line-up construction for the yankees and how it has not paid dividends and we also know about the injuries the mets have been dealing with and then also you have pitching issues now on both teams all of a sudden due in large part to injuries and just goes to show you that it's great. They have five starting pitchers coming out of spring training. But at the end of the day you're going to end up needing like ten or eleven starting pitchers just to get you through a four one hundred and sixty two game season. I mean look what happened while we talked about what. The mets was the depth of the rotation. We haven't even seen carlos carrasco. Yet noah syndergaard thab we were hoping for june right for Before the season began he had the question i have. If you're if you're the mets are you have a big situation on your hand in a big decision on your hand do you end up signing him and keeping him or do you let him walk. Like you. let zack wheeler wok. Yeah know is the best yet. The come for noah syndergaard like the best was yet to come for. Zack wheeler you can ask the same question about michael conforto because right now. You're not seeing anything from him. So big decisions for sure and both these teams need to get going and i. I agree with your point if you go. And it's highly possible that these teams both go one and two over the next three. You're looking at a weekend series. That i'm not gonna say it would make or break their season. But you could certainly put them into a tailspin. You know. I mean wonder for me as a met fan. I wonder how much patience my owner is going to. Have you know he could play around on twitter. All he wants a shortstop could be the ambassador to second base all he wants. You have a smile on his face but at the end of the day you know. He wants a winning baseball team. And what is he going to do to get this thing right. And what is sandy alderson. Going to do to get right. Jared puerto going to do to get a right because you know how many. How much more can you watch. This was supposed to be a great lineup. And everybody said it was going to be a great lineup. Every single one of these players had all this was going to be great francisco and door p alonzo michael conforto jeff. Mcneil dom smith now. I mean this is going to be a fantastic offense and it's been anything but that the maisky this thing of question if you will so you mentioned even this morning and then we can move on from the baseball. The whole thing with the yankees and brian cashman has made phone calls. Because you can't sit here and watch this thing implode like it's not imploding. Which it's slow turning out to be what they expected to be and they need an infusion of something and so he's made some phone calls. At what point do you get aggressive with those phone calls. Meaning you don't just pick up the phone and say what do you think and how about you pick up the phone and say this is what i've got. This is what i'll give. Let's make a deal. Well i think one the guys who are running the team whether it be aniela being alon trust or trust or or or hal steinbrenner. Somebody's got to say. Hey this is. this is unacceptable. This performance this lazy attitude and mistake base running and bad you know bad throws a missing cut off guys. I mean every night. It's something else and sooner or later it's going to come down heavily on the manager and i hate it because he's a good guy and he knows baseball games and he was a handpicked. Guy by brian cashman plugged them out of the booth. He had never managed before had a an has had a lot of successes yankee manager. I'm not saying he has it. But you know when the team continues to make the same errors over and over and over again bed base running bed fielding and if glacier tours can't complete a throw from shortstop the first base that's just a lack to me that's just a lack of focus that he's losing or just wants to try to do something to make it look flashy when it just all he needs to do is just be more zoned in on what he's trying to get done and be more serious now. I'm not saying that their jeeter never throw a bad ball over there. he did. But i don't ever remember derek jeeter trying to be like too flashy or too flamboyant at position i always felt like he was a a structural player. He did have limitations for sure. Maybe he knew about those limitations. That's why he did not take a lot of flashy chances if you will. He was just good. It was just good. It's just a good solid baseball and a smart baseball player. Your was that's why when the biggest games he made the biggest plays and never really talked about it. You know what i mean. And i know that baseball players ended up talking a lot to each other during the games. And you know talking. A lot of to the first baseman and freddie freeman the ambassador first base and francisco indoor again like even yesterday. I think there was a moment where there's foul tip to the categories like pat pat the catcher on the head. Okay everything okay. And i'm like man this got you. You wanna kill those guys. You want to beat those guys. You don't want to be their friends in the middle of a game. I'm sorry i just. I maybe the old time but i don't know i see it on the ice. They try to kill each other and then after the game in the series is over. They'll shake hands. It looks like they're best friends. You know what the difference is. Though in hockey you're constantly moving you're constantly swatting. You're constantly hitting baseball. Such a slow really is it's it's become well not become it's just it's different so these guys who are now all friends in the offseason. Hey they're all buddies. It's that's the game and you see it. It's not only it's at first base. Peter lonzo does the same thing. I know i know i know i'm just like i. I understand that there's going to be conversation at first base there always is. I don't know. I just there needs to be an edge that you have to have. I don't care it. there's gotta be a competitive edge. You have to have and sometimes. I wonder if some of these guys have it. They might not one guy that might have an edge. This is an interesting one. In babylon europe with boomer and jerry. What's up rob. What's going on a former. Yeah robin i would think guy. That was traveling. I think it was right in the diligence babylon on the other side. The way they got the circle under the are trained chefs or Niccolo is speed. Is that i. Because when i ride my bike i always wanted to go towards the traffic coming forth for number one. Don't do that. that's not what you're supposed to be. He's supposed to be riding with traffic not against it. You wanna walk against traffic. You wanna ride with it. Boom these guys. They on their their their. You know their text messaging and calling people in conversation. I want you know she might when the traffic is coming. I wanna make sure that. I see this way when you come towards me. Now you're going and additional miss your question come across you come across street a guys looking right. He's not expecting somebody to come from the left. And then you turn left. And here's a guy in a bike going the wrong way got you boom but you know what i always travel or the other side of the road i. I'm telling you. Rob is the wrong way of donate if you wanna walk. Walk against traffic. If you wanna ride you gotta ride with traffic. I'm sorry that's just. It is now i want to come on the yankee now. I'm going to say you know what boomer you know. These guys is. It almost looks like you know they're trying to get rid of the guy you know Because they're trying to get rid. Aaron boone me say so there's no possible way that you can have a lineup with these guys. I mean you have an around where everybody has no one inning. And he's like he would they Career batting averages are they just. It's like down the and by the way You can use dummy bears. Gum too sticky stuck to whether people are good. That's a good tip coming here. Gummy bears and gum sticky stuff. I wanted to hear him to new. Romo's random over didn't tell us the story because he's not the guy that i almost ran over. He's in babylon. I live in manhattan. I almost ran him over as he's almost got ran over by somebody in a raptor because he's going the wrong way. Sounds like very possible. Take a break nine. Twenty on the fan and cbs sports. That were coming to you. Live from the built ford. Tough studio i. I almost ran over a woman riding. I mean really fast on hudson street over here and she had bell bottoms on and to the citi bike. Was she in the bike lane now. She was not not coming down hudson going town. She was going downtown. The wrong way and i made a right on hudson center and i almost smashed right into. I told you that almost happened to me. When i conked the guy gave me the finger and the thing about it is. I had the green light. I know she's going the wrong way and she's going for red light. She texting jill another problem. The texting on the bike the bike. Because i'm a biker. But i'm just like you have to have your head on the swivel. And i actually have quarterback abilities joe quarterback abilities give me the ability to understand and see things before they happen to sir and i almost didn't see this almost a probably about five foot five hundred and ten pound women on a city bike and i ran over my wrapped. I believe you. What are you are each. The morning show with boomer esiason in gregg giannotti boomerang and geo back home from the three game. Sweep up in boston. Aaron boone met the media before last night series opener against the angels. I four and he tried to set the tone for the road ahead. Ready to go each and every night you know our our seasons on the line we've too many ups and downs of you know and and we're in too good a division so naturally before you could even settle into your seat last night you've got michael king facing shohei otani in the top of the first three to count king with later say hadn't thrown a tiny gerbo yet. So what the hell give it a shot low and in comes the pay swung on there. It goes to write peta's high spa gone. Shohei otani lives up to the press clippings on a three two pitch. He ripped up bullet in the right field. See john sterling do obviously been culture for a long time. A guy like stanton makes a living and he says this. I'm not putting words in his mouth. Makes a living off hitting pitchers mistakes here. This kid is good pitches yet. I'm not a bad pitch. That is not always talking about stanton waving at the slider low in a way. That's a slight error. Curb all daily. Yeah and he just turned. Can't speak for otani. Because i'm looking at his. You know hot and cold shorts in his spray charts but as a lefty batter. I loved the low in pitch. Didn't matter what kind of pitch it was low and right at the knees. Drop the barrel on yeah. I know he's really good player. Jacob degrom could do that though right yes he could. No problem vivian. I'm kidding you know. I don't think you kidding me all right. We don't agree with you right. Yes yes twenty. Six of the season for otani so he now is tied with vlad. Grow junior for the major league lead the angels to in the first against king yankees did tie the second on a geo rochelle homer but they'd go on to lose five to three their fourth in a row for met one lagaras with a solo homer in the sixth giancarlo. Stanton did homer in the loss but you. Dj lemay error in the fifth that contributed to the angels. Plaguing the go ahead run. And then lemay also misfired on a throw home later on which pleaded another run as for otani. he's on another level. Right now could be a major problem throughout the series. Certainly when he pitches tomorrow night but at the plate if the yanks need a good scouting report for attacking him. They should give old friends. See sabbatical what's the quincy uses to get otani out if he's facing him this year. Suzanne moran tuesday marin slide away. All right nice you think again. Absolutely he's eleven a little bit better to him. Ever but i definitely would get his ass out. Maybe we just bring cc back because he was he. I i saw durant obviously. Yeah that was from the rtc podcast while back. But not you've gotta tawny in and maybe the best player he's ever seen that's quite high praise. How many other than babe. Ruth have you seen hit home. Runs and pitches was. He's pitched no. I get that but it's still a small sample size. As a great point he'd never heard of mike trout right. He's not playing pitch. No but see. Sabathia has for years and years and years. Yeah tells you tani. Thanks the pitching yes thing right. Yeah i got it. But he also doesn't play the field he could but he does. I know i mean giancarlo stanton could but he doesn't. Yeah for different reasons. But yeah i gotcha. I understand all right. So aaron boone's the season on the line thing not up to a great start as craig would say to you or i. What else you got. They don't respond to that. What kind of options do you have any. Turn it around. We we gotta go do it. I mean i can. We can throw out. All the sayings and talk is cheap brian. We gotta we gotta go do it. Especially if the red sox keep winning which they did on monday so the extra now seven back in the loss column you got jamison andrew. Heaney this evening in game. Two four pregame on the fan begins at six. Twenty five meantime similar star down in dc first-inning trouble. For jared i cough and the mets against another red-hot slugger al schwartz is about as big a story as there isn't baseball right now. He went six for fifteen with five homers against the mets last weekend. It's a fastball aired or right field. It's deep it's down. The line might go and it's gone into the upper deck swampers. Does it again. How rose wcbs eight eighty. We're watching the highlight spanked. That they got a little mickey mantle. Finish there you know yeah crash back leg there and holding the finish like literally three mantle probably went on that i will say there is nothing. There's an there's not a better feeling in sports though when you just get a hold along. Yeah sure and you know that you just absolutely ripped it out of the building out for tank. Yeah he gets to see richhill tonight. Forber the nationals. In the race tonight in dc first sitting solo homer thank. You can't hit richhill true. And then he would close the book on. I cough with another solo blasts in the fifth as we've outlined first player in major league history to hit fifteen homers in seventeen day span. We also mentioned the otani in schwaiger home runs as it turns out in the first. Yesterday was by eight seconds. Brian south river. Just because it's timely because see. What's up brian going Sealer opened the door. Now yankee fan but there's a video on youtube show. Cc about fifty pounds lighter and jock like you wouldn't believe he's been hitting the gym hard again each reading for from what he was using the time he had to work out and train for baseball just to train his body now and he certainly looks the parts out there. Sign him up. You get hurt though. Probably wound too tight now. That's a good point right. Oblique injury thing. Yeah good point The mets did make it a five four game back to back. Homers from alonzo in mckinney in the eighth than in the bottom half he had this awkward. Shift travis blakenhorn. It just gets thrown in there ends up with two hours on the same play and then that was followed up by three langhorn and a bomb. Little his name is. Who's that other pitchers you talking to your cantera guy that just mentioned like nine sprinkle spangles einhorn. I cough blanket warning. Quantum somewhat chili davis update. Nats eight mets four thirty four year old. Journeyman palo alto. I think he of five career starts prior to last night five shutout innings for the win. But hey louise roha about that. Late-game rally seeing that in the second half of the game. I think is what we expect to see from our guys. It's gonna think about to a bad habit back to back. Homers you know single by dombak back homers. I think we can do that. Focus on the positives and they are still four up on washington in the loss column as they head down to atlanta for three. Now with the braves tyler mcgill. Charlie morton will be the starters in game one tonight at seven twenty. Paul george clapp and back at the critics as his clippers. Face elimination last night in phoenix. He goes for forty one third team bounds. He has taken a lot. I would say probably national media. You know the people that like the next quite leonard. It's not plan. Appear often very critical of george late in these games missing some key shots including free throws these guys as you know get blasted on social media drama that follows these guys around us ridiculous. It gives us storylines. And i guess right but this team like is. It's a weird team like the can't win at home but yet they don't they don't die easy. Yeah they want. They're hanging in there. This guy has an unbelievable game last fifteen twenty lives. They can change that narrative tomorrow night at home game six. I think he missed a third quarter. Fifteen twenty miss much much. Reggie jackson on a big fourth. Here's george. He has taken heat and he feels. It's a fact that he has picked on more than other star honest true. It's a fact but came where the so this this comes with job. I guess side. How is it a fact. How did he make decided. It's a fact in his mind. It's affected the analytic show just turned a stupid social media. He declared himself playoff. I'd forgotten that a few years ago and ever and then every time. He fails the house which has been every time. Remind him he gets out and hammer fall target on his turn crap off and don't even pay attention to it. You make forty million dollars a year and you're worry about what some troll says on twitter come on man. I don't know if it's just the twitter. I mean there might be a national national. Columns probably sack yelling. Probably sure they probably had something to say about it. Box hawks game four tonight. In atlanta trae young questionable. The murrah revealed a bone bruise in his foot. So we'll keep an eye on his status. As we head towards his team. Trying to avoid the three one deficit against jonassen company stanley cup final game one nikita kucherov obviously played game seven against the islanders but wasn't quite himself. We agree on that Himself a game last night. Have across the montreal lines sweeps to kuchar right circle a little cetera. Feet lucid. oh please turn it off off the more here at the more playing it. So that's like nails on a choice. The second goal is really the snipe. The one we just played in fact michigan actually said pohlad because it looked like he at it in front he basically just threw the puck at the net went in which one the first one. Yeah i do. Why are you doing this. Everybody loves hockey. Yeah right come on. I mean i'm with on this one because it just ruins the one you guys play them. Going back and forth in the tremendous stats. Say that was fun anyway. Two goals and an assist for kucherov point at three assists. They win the game five to one so thereafter. We could start with. Came to a head at home against montreal. Let's get now to moment of the day brought to you. By casa migos to kill the customer goes to kill is brought to you by those who drink mon. Jerry's big john segment today legendary. Nfl films voice finally going into the pro football hall of fame. So we took a shot at reading some of his great scripts of yesteryear poor jerry. Coming of super sunday. The battle lines were clearly drawn. The youthful enthusiasm of the pittsburgh steelers matched against the minnesota. Vikings glacial com quarterback fran torkington. Fourteen years of gunning dork. You don't like minnesota iron against pittsburgh steel. He's ruined. That's not fair eddie. That's all right. That's good night so couldn't tell the difference. You know you were right there with them. It's basically the same actually very well done. Yeah all right. Chris thanks very mild. Yes we'll do. The morning show with boomer esiason and greg naughty boomer and geo drouin in howell good morning sir you join us here on the fan and cbs sports network. What's up good morning. Gentlemen how are you good. Go ahead. I tell you what i gotta say. My dad lived with the jets. He tied with the jets and if there was one thing he never gave up hope ever ever ever. It was watching boomer aside play football. He loved watching. You play very nice dry. Appreciate that and hopefully get a straight this year. Never yeah absolutely buddy. He actually love you absolutely. But what i wanted to say was you know. I'm fifty two years old and after watching the yankees and the red sox and the royals try to take each others heads off day after day after day and game after game. It is surprising to guys our age. I guess i can say that. Now that to see that everybody with the advent of social media and now you can be face to face with somebody when they're three thousand miles away. It's just rumor. It's getting the the true competition of what it was to grow up in the seventies. It's all glen it sadly and sadly enough. It seems like it's just it's being legislated out of the game it's being replaced by the statisticians fan graphs and the exit and the launch angles. And the you know the launch codes and the the impact points and all those other things it's like it. It's making its. I don't know about you but for me. It's taking away a lot of hockey right now. The most exciting sport in the world watch because it just seems like baseball. You see them. Smiling buddy buddy and everybody's getting along with everyone i just and i just wanna scream at the tv like. Why are you smiling. Why are you buddy buddy but thanks a lot for taking the call gentlemen boomer. Thanks for everything you've done for us. And then i drew. Thanks appreciate it. Listen here's the deal you know i'm i'm About as competitive as they come and most of the guys that. I know that i've that i've played with and have played with are the same way and that was a different time. We didn't like each other. We didn't socialize much in the off season. Maybe some of the quarterbacks got together we weren't hanging out with each other. And i know these guys in the world is today that You know we didn't fly around on private jets. We didn't go to the same clubs. We didn't hang out with the same trainers lot of guys trained together now on the offseason down in miami or out in phoenix or out in california and they always talk about training this and training that a the one thing about the hockey is that they're act- they're trying to kill each other and i would tell you that. The nba playoffs has been very physical. It has larry i. I don't have a problem with the nba playoffs. I'm just talking about the every day. If you play a hundred and sixty two games in a season it's going to be monotonous times and there's going to be a lot of interaction with the players on the base paths and things of that nature. I just think that when you're francisco endure and you're making the money that you're making now and you got traded here and you're a happy go lucky type guy and you're really good in the field. A big part of that contract is being paid to you because of what you can do at the plate and you really haven't done. Would you want him to change. Though miana one on the change. I want him to be the life of the party because that's his personality as any does bring brightness to the team in a spark to the team and i wish i know that i see how he does it with with the pitchers on the mound which is great. That's a great thing. That's a great aspect. But i also want him to be an assassin. When he's playing baseball. I want him to compete and want to win. You really should be the most important thing for him. When i don't remember and we've certainly seen cleveland in the playoffs enough and we should know. This is if he's slightly different when he gets to october. Because to your point about it being monotonous you know you can say the same thing about the nba. The game is played in such a different way. And it's officiated different. And i had a problem with. Because i really feel like it was officiated fairly the milwaukee brooklyn series with sophisticated fairly and the same both ways but different from the way the regular season was officiated where they really let them play really physical and it was like watching like the the officials no control over the game's regulars and the is we're going back and forth and they were john each other and they weren't friends on the court but during the regular season i feel like it is different and i wonder if it's the same. You know this we were talking about michael jordan. Kobe bryant and lebron james. Those guys are sassoon's all three of them. They don't they're not your friend on the on the basketball court you know maybe after the game they'll give pat on the but we also heard tom brady talking this morning on a podcast drop f bombs and this and that about teams. That didn't want him to go with other guys and you could hear the competitive nature of him and those comments. That's what i'm talking about. Sure i'm talking about a guy that's going to be an all in. let's go. it's it's about winning and it's not about being somebody's friend during a game especially in a game where you're getting paid a lot of money and the expectations. Unfortunately for you which i wouldn't say unfortunately because that means you're making money but unfortunately in this situation the fans want more out of you they want more from you they want to see you as if the game means more to you than anything in the world and maybe it does but you know when you are struggling at the plate. Unfortunately you're you're going to get the criticism that is coming francisco's way for the last month. And a half ari an inward. What's up ari. How are we doing good boom and jerry. Oh yeah oh yeah you. What's happening. Good how you doing. I'm just remembering when jose. Reyes was this happy-go-lucky player on the mets. And he was so much fun to watch and then one year they told them. Listen you got to cut that nonsense. You gotta be serious. You gotta play. And since then his game had changed. And that's i think what led to them not resigning him. You know when his contract was up to do that to a guy who you can't change the guy's personality you gotta let him be and yes he does have to start hitting. And it's very frustrating as mets fans to see that. We're spending all this money on him. And he's just you know strike out groundout double-play whatever it is at the it's very frustrating. But you gotta let him be him and let him work it out for himself. Icing disagreements got. It's gotta start changing. But i'm just saying that you know kobe bryant. Kobe bryant kobe. Bryant was an assassin on the basketball court. I mean patrick. Ewing was patrick ewing. He's you know he's going to beat you up on the basketball court. He'd be your friend after and we'll hang out together whatever but if we're out their plan i mean i don't know it just it's just a different look to me that i just. I'm having a hard time really wrapping my head around now. One of the things that they said when they traded for him is that you know his personality is a great personality. Great for a team. And i do see that. There's no question about that. When the pitcher scuffling struggling diaz was struggling the other day and not the other d as that was struggling day and he went in there and was like come on yang. Eds right yes name so it was. It was great to see that. Because he's doing it. I team i want him to just want to beat the hell out of the other team. And sometimes i just don't see that in the actions on the field especially when he's at second base and he's joining with another player. I don't know maybe it's the old school and maybe it's okay boomer and may i'm not really sure what it is. I just want to see a real. I want to see more competitive nature out of him especially when he's in the batter's box and that's why i said the other day he had a chance to walk in a run. That would have won the game and instead he swinging at pitches out of the out of the strikes. He is but he's not swinging at them to miss. I mean he's fooled but he's got to be better and he's gotta understand the situation he's in and that's an even even trying to think. I was running drawing or maybe it was much all these games on listening. All these guys and we're all kind of from the same hero so we all kinda see things somewhat the same way. And it's maybe it was david cone where guys just sometimes don't even know what's going on the situation. I situation of baseball just situate weakest. Were sitting home and we're watching it on tv. And we know what the situation is. And i guess one of the yeah. It was the double the judge double Double play yesterday. Where throws a binding esiason glitziest. Just come gets caught no-man's-land for no reason because he's space cadet. Now you've got a short whitefield. We've got a great rightfielder. Don't be leading off the base that far on a head out there. Listen if tom brady cannot know what down it is. it can happen to anybody and it happens often. It really does way too often. Way too often for sure each the morning show with boomer esiason and greg saudi boomer and geo.

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07/15/21 Boomer and Gio Hour 4 (9AM-10AM)

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07/15/21 Boomer and Gio Hour 4 (9AM-10AM)

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Sports network with the yankees back in action. Tonight would still know starting and we'll be able to watch local sports again starting with yankees red sox that we've talked about it. This thirteen game stretch. This is it. This is the stretch that will determine where the yankees are going to be for the rest of the year. I know that it sort of depends on what has happening with the teams in front of them not only individual at the wild card race. But is there a number that you're putting on this thirteen game stretch. It makes you think they will still be in and at the end. Does it have to be something crazy. Like now three nine. I don't think so. I think I think it's about winning series. That's that's first and foremost it's about Being a competitive team that we saw down and used him without question They have the answer they have to answer the big question about their closer and then the other aspect here is if they let's say they go eight and five in these thirteen games. They have another thirteen games that follow these thirteen games against bottom feeders. Which means that in baseball. If you can get onto an eight. And to ron eleven three runs something like that. You get yourself right back in the middle of everything including your division. So i would say yes the next thirteen games. They need to have at least a winning record. They need to win the series and then the thirteen games after that they need to kick-start and get into a a run where they can. You know really feel like they're getting themselves back into the mix of the division. So i always say it's one pitch one about at a time when we're kidding about all that other stuff but if you look at it from the big picture situation over the next twenty six games and then with the trade deadline you know not that far away you know you got to know a lot about the yankees whether or not. They consider themselves a team. That's worthy of one of the world series. I i would just say there's always pressure for them to stay competitive so i don't i don't see them as closers unless the red sox come in here and sweep these four games from them if they sweep these four games then then i think it's like forget it we're done. Yeah well the red sox could bury the yankees and the division for sure he could. And that's why these next thirteen games are really important. They are because it's you know it's what you got the red sox you got the phillies and then you got the race yet. The red sox phillies red sox race. Yeah those are the thirteen. So what is it eleven out of the thirteen with the red sox and race right who teams that are four ahead of you in the division right after that comes the kansas city's of the world baltimore's of the world. You almost wish you had that. I you know you can flip the schedule. Wouldn't you want that. I feast on. Somebody's bad teams. And then get on a little bit of a roll and then run into the tougher part of the schedule. They stay competitive the way they did in seattle and houston. And then you get into that kind of like part of your schedule and we're talking twenty six games from now be interesting to see where they are and how they have come through that because this season i hate to say always say to say that. There's things that could happen in any season but these next twenty six games but more importantly these next thirteen games are going to be. What's either going to launch them into the playoff race for real or what is going to end up costing people jobs and changes Coming definitely on horizon. A win is the pulse of the people ward award announced. Today i think four pm four pm. Okay so i gotta make sure that appointment listening today to find out how that goes now did they. Don't the pulse of the people were committee. They don't look at the listeners. Voting do they at this. I don't know what they do over there. I think only if it agrees with their thinking then they would agree with it. I think they take it into account but it's not decided vote. Okay they are. They are very difficult to really get. Put a finger on They're all over the place Chaos i'm sure as chaos in that office secretive right. I gotta look at that. Poll again. So i mean look at this. It's about four thousand votes on that. Poll and jerry recco got sixty four percent of the vote. I still can't believe it's only sixty four percent of the vote but still that's that's pretty significant as landslide territory and political speech. Yes sixty four percent. I mean he should have ninety percent he should you have your evan sycophants that are going to vote for him for no matter. What because he loves the nets. Sure but for jerry loves the nets to. That's the thing this the people. The people are voting in this poll. The people aboard right so he should be winning the thing. But you're saying if he does not win in. Evan wins it then. We're not recognizing this. I'm never gonna i'm i will never take it again seriously. Ever all right. I've done my due diligence. I've i've looked into the things that each of these young men have done and why they are nominated a. I think that evan was nominated simply kind of as a little bit of camouflage for craig but at the end of the day i mean jerry's resume just stands so far above. Evan and i'm not talking about on the radio station I mean evan is you know he's an afternoon drive leader right now. Sure no you got to recognize that and you got to appreciate For what he is as a talent. He's a very special towel. That's not what we're talking and he's and he's headed become a chameleon to work with craig absolute that's shows you his his depth of talent and understanding and that's fine that's all that is great but ultimately away from the radio station. What is he doing a not enough in my eyes. Not more than. That's only what i look at you. He does he's not even in your strategy. I know i gotta get over it though. I'm not a finalist. That's been that way for several at least a week now so i just have to let it go it on. My full support is buying jerry. I mean but it's all the things that you have done compared to what evidence done that that's the other thing that really stinks here. And then the fact that even al. He's very active on the nine. One one is not even being taken serious nine. One one operator getting some crap. Did you see a lot of people are questioning the way that she handled Richard's wife yeah. I heard that in the beginning. I thought it was a little strange to admit the first time jerry played it. I was like wow this on nine one one sounds like she's russell ama so we we're now criticizing the nine one one operator for something that she didn't start this whole thing i know she didn't but i'm just two different things. I'm not saying that she's the culprit in his issue. I just was. I was surprised. I don't know why i'd much attitude as she did. That's all i. I don't profess to be a nine one one operator but to sit and say that she's not doing her job right. I mean i don't know what do you wanna do. She's trying to get information. They're just say gee scenes you. I'm just saying the people that are criticizing her for the way. She's doing her job. I can't believe that sound a little angry sad a little angry stop. I'm doing this for you. Stop listening today trying to get her to calm down class. I know exactly where you are. And what's going on. A cloud shot up to do this view. Is it on fire not your house. You smell smoke and not a clown a fi truck and he showed up. I don't know i. It was that bad while the other thing too. It was my while they were on the phone together she. Richard's wife is yelling at richard to stop so he. She's talking to richard sherman while she's trying to talk to nine one one operator. It's tricky so the nine one one operates trying to figure out who you talking to you talking to me. You're talking about what's going on here. Yeah and it sounds like if you go back and listen to it it does sound like there's a lot of crap going on. Yeah and. I'm sure there's a nine one one operator you hear a bunch of people that are calling you. That don't have emergencies and you get annoyed either. It's al dukes will how are you. It's been a while al. What's it been two weeks. ahe hold on. Let me guess. Someone put paper in plastic recycling bin again. No thank god. What is it now. I was hoping you would call me back. Nine hundred one doesn't call back especially about irrational fears. You have. I might get robbed okay. Someone following you out. Not exactly okay. What's your location l. No one's going to rob. I only have twenty bucks to give the thief. You cannot call us for this. I just can't help myself. Is there anything else out. I don't even wanna take this makeup off. But i have to get to bed. That's great. how get some sleep kissing. I grew night al once again. That's how you handle a call like that of your nine one one operator. You know you keep your cool. You understand speak plainly and you say goodbye to the person. It's the morning show with boomer. Esiason and greg nadi boomer and geo all right and go on the fan and cbs sports network. Jerry recco is back with us as a been a lot going on today but we do have sports resuming. Tonight has been a lot going on. But it's not in the world of sports but sports resuming tonight with the yankees and red sox. So we're excited about that jerry with the other stuff happening as well in the nba. What's going on man. We are brought to you by winters. Brothers waste systems creating cleaner and greener long island to learn more visit winters. Biaro s dot com. I'll circle back to the richard sherman stuff in a in a minute but since you mentioned the basketball even done anything with this other than tell you the bucks. Beat the suns. Big play in this game defensive play as milwaukee beat phoenix throughout high booker comes around booker. Driving by the fuck middleton wing now set it up get a good shot. We have exactly one. Oh five to go on the game along clip at the point of that was the The janas block on andre. That was unbelievable. It was pretty good. Great value that. He basically negated the editor. He had to turn his body around full circle. Get it has been booker over the shoulder so really good awareness and a nice play and it's not a foul either clean so pretty good play their one zero nine one. Zero three was the final series even at two and to a lot of the conversation afterwards on the honest block head coach mike budenholzer janas just made a spectacular block. Spectacular play is ability to cover ground. I'll get to that point. Get to the top. That's an nba finals. Special moment right there. And that was part of his twenty six points. Fourteen rebounds eight assists effort couple of blocks on the night pad. Coniston says just amazing. In my opinion the best possible all time You know obviously. We're a little biased. And you can talk about the lebron block as well as strong strong best block of all times book. I don't know about best block of all time. The amazing thing is is that during the regular season. I bet you they just let it go. Nobody plays defense on and it's going to be a you know a lob probably but in this particular case what he had to do and how. He had the awareness of what was happening as he was turning his body and then going up as high as he. Did you see how i eight. And was he's got ups. You know so i you know i. I don't know every block that's ever been done but this was about as good as it gets. That's for sure no question about it. here was jaanus also as good as it gets with. Chris middleton ten straight points in the fourth he had forty on the night he was being aggressive and Cape communicated to him that there was things that will do that. Get him wide open now. He was wide open or not. He was making basically everything for the most part In this game and you also had him talking about Janas that is needing a bathroom. Break kim back that's it. That's that's polite includes games. I wanted to take england back in the fourth quarter. Right exactly tinkle. Wow come on here winkle chris. Paul had a tough night. Turn the ball over a few times only ten points. He missed eight of thirteen shots. Devon booker forty-two here is there. At coach money williams re players have games like that we expect him to to bounce back you know he had five But we had seventeen and they scored twenty four points off those turnovers and so series even two two game. Five saturday night in phoenix at the british open. Leaderboard for you. I raced it again. What are you doing to me over here. Who's doing this someone's doing this don't know anyhow. Loose is now the leader at six under par all by himself. That's a louis stays in first round leader at the british open jordan spieth. His one shot behind him. And you've got one two three four golfers that are four under par including american brian. Harmony is finished so reposted posted a five under shot sixty five right in those days and has plain walls. Yeah i got him through seven seven. He's on the eighteenth with the one shot lead so far at the british open. All right now. We'll get to the richard sherman stuff. I'll give you the nine one. One calls As they came in tmz sports. I think got them i. This is ashley sherman talking about that. Her husband is drunk and not doing all that. Well i i need. I need to my house now. My husband drunk and learn the you up. I'm what satra okay Here was the operator again with So with his wife material. There's no. I'm saying there are no luck in there. Are you need to stop interrupting me. So i can get the information they need to get officers expedited officers. Your now here was another one. This really sounds terrifying for her and her family to leave now in house. He's being aggressive. He's wrestling with uncle. He's threatening to kill himself. You sent people thing. He's going to hang himself And then there's another one that he says fight police if he has to. I think that's where this goes. The police show up. He'll try to fight them to understand that he you physical with anybody various cities trying to yes okay so so now the nine one one operator has to one or police that they could be stepping into dot where it's going to put them in a very very tough situation and you know. I'm not sure when the canine unit was called or any of this other stuff. But there's also a reports that he had other friends reaching out in previous bumps to help him deal with some of the issues that he's going to whatever they may be i would imagine he's also in solitary confinement under suicide. Watch since since. He's basically threatening to kill himself. I there's a lot of a lot of tentacles the shore and it does sound like this has been going on for a while and is going to be. At least i think four or five chargers coming his way included resisting arrest driving under the influence Hit and run hidden. Ron is going to be a bunch of stuff. They you know domestic violence which is a felony in seattle. So there's he's he's got himself a long road in front of him. He did a podcast. I want to say about a month ago. 'cause i remember. We'd clips from him talking about where he was thinking of playing. You know depending on. Chris collins worth is that oh is that true. Okay i remember. I wonder if this has been addressed. Maybe it has in terms of mental health and the issues. He's gone through. I don't know something. Go back and look you got to reach out. The collins says see if he knew anything was tapping or what the deal is a podcast with them all the time. I'd love to know if this is like something that just popped up a really. That's been brewing for a while. Sounds like people close to have been. He's been no way. They did their last podcast. I know through the pf platform. The two of them had been doing it. But i don't know long ago was the last one. I'm not sure Here's ron mead. Washington state police says as a serious situation as it always as i understand that it's high profile understand that a lot of media interest these type of arrests occur sadly every single night the fortunate part about this arrest nobody was seriously injured and so there will be a hearing scheduled. I believe for this afternoon out in washington. I'm asking this question. Yeah is just this is just a question that goes along with where we are in society today and the whole defunding the police kind of notion. So would you. After listening to that nine one one call. Would you want to send in Some sort of negotiator or some sort of mental health expert. Or would you want to send in the police after listening to that nine one one. Call boy you know. I'm we koran. Decided to try to point out police. The police and his wife wanted police there. Yeah bishops basically asking for the police show up absolutely Meantime his former teammate. Russell wilson was on the dan. Patrick show addressing. Once again the rumors of him possibly being moved out of seattle which seem to have gone away at this point. I think that anytime at sports is a potential being traded. I think there's always a real opportunity to that but you know. I think that i've always wanted to be seattle. Always loved in there and certainly don't assume like is going anywhere at this point so that was Dan patrick show. You also had the dwayne haskins story which is another strange. One charged with domestic battery of his wife was after allegedly knocking out his tooth in las vegas. She hit him way. The story goes. I guess they were there for a trip where they were going to renew their vows. They brought friends. And i guess some family along his wife and friends read a show and he and his friends didn't wait for them to go to the next whatever they were going to do and she got upset and somehow it escalated to where she punched him in the face. He loses a tooth but they seem to be fine now. This happened about a month ago. So there's that then there's the. I saw the photos. You show me the trevor bauer photos of the woman. My goodness yeah. i'm with you. He may never pitch again. administrative leave extended by nearly two weeks through july twenty seventh investigation continues allegations of sexual misconduct against this woman In the text messages the photos and everything that goes along with it it does not look good at all. Meantime you've got the yankees and red sox tonight coverage on the fan at six twenty five after carton roberts. Duardo rodriguez goes for boston. Still awaiting word on who will throw for the yankees. We know is aaron. Boone on with carton roberts today or is it a friday thing. I should know this. And i don't i don't get guest list l. I don't know there's so many guests it so hard to pick. Which is you know who shows up on what days right. So many aaron buner luis rojo. Yeah i'm going to say boone today. Row house tomorrow. That's my guess because row house they're off. That's true of the red sox yankees. So i would think maybe perhaps sound like john. Hayman anyhow series begins tonight Yankees do start today. Eight games back in the al east to get things going. What else do we have here. Let's see we did that. I thought the miles powell sort of weird one. Yeah i know. I mean he was someone who of course was the guy there. Murray number of years on very successful teams and he's claiming that the university the medical staff. The basketball staff forced him to play with a really bad knee injury. That is now. Hurt is future earnings as a potential Professional basketball player. Now i had never. I mean i'm not saying it. Hasn't i'm not around the but i'd never heard a bad thing in terms of relationship with his coach with kevin willard so the suit names. Kevin willard the doctor medical expert on staff and the school really. He's suing them all. Yeah exactly and there's also something going on with urban meyer. And the jaguars in terms of met with the the the strength training code they hired. Yes so you've got a lawsuit by just sought. Come in and get the details of a lawsuit. Yes where is going to be The posed as a witness or or some some. Yes some capacity guys. I saw coming in and get a chance. Laurie details but that was interesting. Take a look at that as well time. No and carlos carrasco rehab start in brooklyn tonight so per return go. Maybe i'll go and watch them. I did that one. When jose reyes made her start in brooklyn. Yeah it was actually a lot of fun. I haven't been to that ballpark. ever know. it's a nice part good cyclones. Yeah right there on the boardwalk. I think he played there. I think sabrina she's three and a half. She's a little too young to bring into lake city field or yankee stadium but i wanted to test it out at a long island ducks game grace. Yes that's something you can get quicker right. It just get it. You know just test to see how it goes before. I bring her into all the way this you might like it yeah. I'm worried about the bathroom stuff though. I'm just taking her into the men's room. That's the way to go into a stall obvious. Yeah i know but then stalls are just very funny the minor league stadiums. They actually tend to be very clean all right so you. You brought sydney his exactly whole you. Hold her up over the toilet. That's what i did. When she was younger when i was bringing her to mass square garden for ranger games when she was a ranger fan back. Then okay back in the good old days. That's right it's orange and blue and not for the mets Anyhow hanging out with the belly. Clutterbuck right Time now moment of the day brought to you by casa migos to kill accustomed goes to kill a brought to you by those who drink. Try and do this the best way i can earlier we were discussing a new candle made by gwyneth. Paltrow the aroma comes from her own private area. I think it's a nice way to say it not long after we did hear from. Cnbc's guy a dummy guys morristown guy dummy of cnbc's fast money calls. The color line does not use. His real name is guy for morris guy from morristown. You're on the fan. Yes good morning. And this guy for more stan and again a bone to pick with first of all you know i love you guys all of you guys that collect the morning show from six. Am to ten am and this morning. I took my son to the train and my wife. Linda said listen. I'd love to take a ride with you this morning. I said great. You can listen to the guys on. Wfan the morning show. We put the radio on literally. The first word she hears is the v word which. I don't even say exactly what the hell is going conversation. She looks at me. She said me out of the car guys moment of the day that as clean as we could. Oh yes sure. Well but use the Rewind feature on the aussie abbas. You could go back here. All journal ten minutes ten minutes of dirty words. it's the morning show with boomer. Esiason and gregg giannotti boomer and geo. I just can't stop. it's impossible jerry goes for me. I'm going to print amman. You want something like brought stuff with me. I brought my rx bar banana going down here. Sure give me a bacon. Egg and cheese name comes back with a bacon egg and cheese sandwich at eight and then did you also meet your rx bar and banana. Of course okay. Come on oil here. So then we got this food delivery from adore lee which is right down the block here wonderful restaurant and neighboring us all this stuff and i could say all man. I already eight. That's what i could say i could say. Oh this is bad timing for me because already had my print among year brioche bacon egg and cheese sandwich like five minutes ago no no what do i do. I grab myself a slice of breakfast pizza. Which has one on it bacon egg and cheese and i'm now finishing that so you have a newborn at home. You're not getting any sleep. No you're you're exhausted. Your body is screaming at you. It is a needs energy. And you're doing a by eating and bad. And i have to tell you i kinda did the same thing but i got to play the pasta and you gotta play a pasta and there's also these heroes out there and you bet your ass. I'm bringing one home. And i'm grabbing at their soup out there too by the way. Yeah soup is not something. That's going to travel well if the pastas unbelievable man l. Even grab something. I was surprised if all that talkie grabbed a rice ball. I did. I grabbed a rico delicious. But you feel like you like you feel guilty. If you don't eat less gets here you have to do. It was nice enough for them to bring totally forgot that they were sending it up. But i know you're in touch with. I was in touch. I knew man. Oh man you didn't say not mention remind us so totally blew it off. I have this thing about wasting food. This is a big problem. And why or getting these situations in or end to lose thirty pounds. Did your mother hit you with that guilt and you know when you actually no no. It was not her fault or anybody's fault other than my own. But there's just like if there is food that is going to go in the garbage pail. I can't. I have a big problem. That i gotta save it heated at another time or just keep eating it until it's gone know it's ridiculous. I see your guys. Christmas gift on tv right now. What is that the app squat. Yes oh come on a long way to go with the through. The app squats. Oh give me a break. You can't. I can't have that in my house. Why not were first of all. I'm never gonna use it just going to sit in a basement and get cobwebs on it you would. Ucf squad the app squat. I don't think so now uses the total gym. He does use it but al actually works out. That's the difference between me and out a few times a week. Would you use the app squat. An app squatter abs- quad squad. Abs- yes do you have an ass still out with fifty. Two years old only had a flat behind. Yeah yeah. I don't really have any nothing there narrow little curvature yeah i mean i Definitely a guy that. I've never really noticed much there. You know you guys than my through my jeans okay. Come on and take a look. See what he's working with. I think i've still held on pretty good. Where skinny sometimes though you look at that is nothing going on their size. Twenty eight yeah thirty. Stop shaking your booty and get out of here. Nice work there. I'll never know your fifty two or almost fifty two right. When's your birthday coming on september. I always think it's in august for some reason but All right so i. I saw these kids outside of my house yesterday. I could not believe what i was saying to kids. I wanna say eleven maybe twelve no older than twelve and they lay their bikes in the street in front of my house. Okay and then they walk about thirty yards closer to my house from where they laid the bikes and one of them has their phone out. And i'm bringing out the cardboard. There's a lot of. It is of course always a lot of it so i bring out cardboard and i'm looking at them because they got the bikes in front of my neighbor's house. So much for the environment. And i'm and i get back to the house to get more cardboard to bring out and i turn around and i look and their next to the cardboard that i just put out on that little part of grass thereby the driveway and now they're fighting one another one kid holding a phone up fighting on my property. So i go in. Sabrina helps with the cardboard. She gets a big kick out of it. so i go to jeanine say gene. Hold onto sabrina here. I gotta go handle something. So i go out and these kids are now fighting while filming themselves on my lawn so i go up to them i say what are you doing. You want to know what their answer was. What's talking you nail it. Yes make an tiktok. And i said what i was like. You make it a tiktok you fighting one. Another as like yeah. That's what we do what we do. Is we pretend that we fight. And then we filmed the cars going by and get their reaction to us fighting about the neighbors they get the neighbor reaction like you just. He didn't. He didn't put the camera on me right. Did he know who. You are a celebrity. Now out of the demo. They pick your house. I don't know i mean i. It's the nicest house on the block. Could have been yeah. I don't know they could have been the deal but they yeah. They laid the bikes in the street. To have like some sort of like the cars have to go around and slowdown and then they fight and then they film themselves fighting and then they film the reaction of the people driving by tiktok said how about if i just kick your ass. I don't take tag tiktok. yeah. I didn't say what the what's going on here. I think it was one of those. I felt like such a dad. And then after while you are i know but like you know what i'm saying. I know what you're saying that did you say okay. Go for it or did you say no. I shouldn't take this somewhere else. Police say like you know got hanging out. We don't get the microphone. Just pulled right up but the Dad comes out with a gut. Doing what's this about. The kids make tiktok stick somewhere else right. Come back size. I handled it. Yeah homeowner as far as why fricken student. This is what you came here for. Spike eskin market. One that's that's not his fault. I mean that's just not his full. Somebody has to be told that there. That thing's broken and to fixed. No my point is that you know he did a big article. Did you see the big interview. Did i did not. And he's talking about you know. This is the dream you work your way up here and you get here. This is what happens okay. So so boomer. what'd you think about. My tiktok needs is not just needs to not just needs a nut on bottom and needs a nut by the way for people just listening on the radio microphone arm pulled right out of the table and now it's portable so that's great but you see just needs not enough or something has to screw into the bottom of that back out. They have nuts back there. Oh absolutely they got a whole drawer and nuts engineers exactly that they're quirky in a good way. Oh there's spike is that spike looking in on here it is yes. Check out mega chores morning. Teams all set up. Yeah good to go. Did you spikes you to give an interview to kneel best already thought. It was a little. I went to go read it but of course you know you need a subscription. I got someone to give me their password. Chicken parm lou actually gave. Yeah if you'd like it. I could pass it on to you all. I would like that and it's not like it's a lot of money just the principal right but everything's behind the frigging paywall. Was there anything in the article. That was eyebrows eyebrow raising not at all no. It was very very safe. And i guess it's a good promotional thing but i thought like you know you bop in. You won't be a little quiet. He wasn't like on my change. Everything up over there. No he said that the it'll be subtle very subtle the changes that will make and you won't even realize it until like later on and go. Okay he made some changes. How about that but now. He said he's not going to be like. He's going to sweeping changes at the radio station. See if i could find the thing did you didn't see you know. Yeah he's he's all over the place. Though as a prize he went with best over marshon. I think there's more people that is on the post and yeah but isn't the spike was obviously on the radio himself He has a presence on social media. Unlike our previous program director and Is a little bit more. I think forward. Let's see goes i would tell listeners. Nothing that i do know decision that i make will be big splash type decisions. The radio station doesn't demand that right now very nice. I would think that'd be showing a ton of respect to the people that are there who are succeeding right now. He said so. I would be confident saying that. If you look back at a year or two you will see a stamp that i've made on the radio station but it won't be something that you wake up and say. Wow that's different a little subtle things little subtle subtle there this year this. They're not a forty five second to a minute and a half top of the hour. Ide- stuff like that a lot of behind the scenes stuff the To let you guys know is the pulse of the people is tweeted out something. They're kind of going after you guys that you guys are narcissistic and there's a reason why you guys why boomer wasn't even nominated a bagasse they are reacting to your name calling of the pulse of the people and how you're not going to support their organization if Jerry doesn't win. Wow interesting right i. It's nothing about me being nominated. They are narcissistic. Self absorbed. said people found the best radio talk show host at wfan joy by digging cheap shots and putting down a person who has remained above the fray. Not stoop the little of name calling and personal attacks. Pathetic insults will look forward to today's fourteenth annual announcement. Okay so who were the thirteen winners. That i don't recall there. Being craig wanted ten times. I wanted twice mike. Francesa wanna once. Is that right. Says there's a reason why. Mr sisolak wasn't nominated reason mr gene noughties in win. It's been said that pressure doesn't build character it reveals it here. Sadly that character of both of these men is also been revealed. Why wasn't nominated. It does not but he hasn't been attacking them so maybe they're okay with that. I hope this doesn't hurt. Jerry's chances no jerry stand a chance of winning. They're a professional organization like they claim to be. Yeah there's no way in the world that jerry can't win this award that's all there is to it one day craig's gonna make a mistake going back and forth those twitter accounts that he's got a tweet from his twitter account is supposed to tweet from the pulse of the people one. It's going to be a big problem. Got to be careful. Kevin durant when he was exposed with his burner account. All right very good. How's your what are you got over there. Little ziti go pasta. Yeah all right. Let's go very good.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tony Dungy and Kyler Murray (02-01-19)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tony Dungy and Kyler Murray (02-01-19)

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Booger McFarland and Kirk cousins will stop by last hour spent some time with drew Brees had some interesting things to say that will make some headlines. That's for sure is drew is basic, by the way, the play the controversial play. The no call is called Buckhead and Buckhead is a famous neighborhood here in Atlanta. So it was let's call Buckhead. We're going to the Super Bowl. And of course, it didn't end that way. But through saying look if I can be here talking about that play. Then the Commissioner should have been out there on Monday or Tuesday last week just to say, look, hey, we missed it. We usually get these calls, right? We wanna make sure that these things never happen again. I also want to know why is it that a college football game has more ficials than an NFL get. Why is it we add more empires to a baseball playoff game than we do? In the regular season strengthened numbers. But also, I don't want all star officials all-star teams calling playoff games I want familiarity. I want a team. That's there. That's been there because it's a big game. And I want to rely on you. By the way, we replayed play called Buckhead. This time we through the flag on the play. So I don't know if it's any solace to saints fans. Yes polling that completely fixed it jazz over lately. Wait, what he's able to move past that Brian Urlacher also stopped by we gave him an opportunity to erase one of the more embarrassing moments of his career when Tom Brady juked him in an open field and paulie play the role of Tom Brady. And I think he exercised his demons a little bit there. Yeah. Erlich are very nice guy. He gave me a little pop more of like a gentle hug and rock me to the ground. He was very nice guy. Saquon Barkley pop you pretty good saquon kind of did this shiver thing takes his hands in jam some under your armpit. Yeah. And I now have to circular purple marks are pit areas from saquon Barkley, Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by peleton game changing indoor cycling blank that brings the energy of live studio classes, right to your home. Anytime you want up to fourteen live rides today and over ten thousand more demand. Learn more about the puddle on bike at one peleton dot com or visit your local showroom poll question. Mclovin. While right now, we have who do you want to win the Rams of the patriots Rams, no surprise winning? When are we doing our MVP draft? I'm looking at the rundown later on this hour. Okay. So after Tony Dungy after Cuyler Murray will do a two round MVP draft. And you're against the grain. I oh, yeah. You ready? No also there was a basketball deal yesterday. We did talk about this. I think I know what the Knicks are are going to do or try to do and they're going to go. After some big names. I've said all along I thought Kevin Durant ends up as a knick not wavering from that you trade porzingas to Dallas. So they get a nice young tandem there. And I think that you're going to get maybe two free agents go to the Knicks and maybe you're in the position to draft Zion. Williamson. So I mean, this is systematic. This is fun office tanking is what it is. Let's trade are good players and get some stuff in return some coins in return, and you know, we'll try to finish the rest of the season. Yeah. What could go wrong with the next xactly? You have to trust the Knicks. And there's no reason to trust the Knicks with this process. Our next guest a form. For university of Minnesota quarterback is the most recent NFL player to throw an interception and catch an interception in the same game. Is that a good record? I don't know. He went on to become a successful head coach with Tampa. And Indianapolis, many young coaches consider him an influence and a mentor in his current profession broadcasting. He's often cited me as his influence there. And maybe that I'm the greatest broadcaster of all time. You might say I'm the Tony Dungy of broadcasting or something like that. Please welcome. Our good friend hall of famers. Hey, everybody. Good. Everyone got him afraid after what you did the Brian. No, I'm not going to embarrass me. There's not enough play not lot not enough footage of you playing to be able to find place to embarrass you coach continental tire coaches corner. They exclusive tired of the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive or what you drive continental designs tires for what you do. For more information continental tire dot com. Was there ever? Was there a moment when you play with the Steelers when you're when you're on the field, new go this isn't for me. Like, I I I don't know if I can I want to do this as a career. Yeah. My my rookie year I converted from quarterback and never played defense before him out their plan against all these guys and making mistake after mistake, and I made a big mistake in the red zone. Cleveland scores a touchdown. But Carson defensive coordinator says you're trying to get me fired. He said, but before I let sub for me. I'm firing you and I thought yeah. This might not be a great profession, but the coach no came over and said he'd put his arm around. What were you? What were you looking at? What were you thinking? Didn't we practice? The why is it coaches yell at players because you get frustrated because you know, it, and you think they should know it and you're over they are watching and has happened in slow motion. And they're out there in his heaven a thousand miles an hour. And after the fact, you know, it as as I walked off the field. Listen, I know what call us both to make. No, what is supposed to do. I just didn't. I couldn't do it. But just yelling. Hello does. Okay. It doesn't. And I learned that from coats. No. So I didn't yell guys most often because they just they made a mistake. They don't need to know. Hey, you made a mistake. They just need how to fix it. The next you philosophy with my kids if I give them the silent treatment after something bad happen that sinks in for more than if. You say something to them. So I don't know if that happens. Yes. Use it with other people than just your kids. Dan. Okay. There times when I've done that to the Dan apps where I go silent. I go cold on them. And the message sent and the one person who would affects the most thought Fritz, I give her sensitive. Oh, my almost rather you scream it when you do the blow off in like like they like a ghost like, not even visible. It's horrible. Did you ever have a player like fritzy? Can't say that I had. Can make it to that level sensitive natural football had some sensitive guys did have some sensitive guys could you yell at Peyton not really wasn't effective way. To coach Marvin Harrison was the same way. I remember my first we were playing the patriots, actually. And I made a Esa tiles looking forward to covering you. And and he didn't talk me for two days. And then he came in my office on Friday. And he said no, I don't joke about the game. And okay, I understand now. And then we we understood why does he thought you were making something up this on and like? Really wants to play against you. Because he doesn't think you're very good. I was just making a joke. And Marvin said, hey, I joke about a lot of things but not about football. You were a defensive coordinator. So if I said be a defensive coordinator, you're the Rams your Wade Phillips. So what do you want to do on Sunday? Rodney would been on together for nine years and Rodney all with says it you have to get pressure up the middle against Tom. But you can't blitz. The do it. If you have to blitz like Brian said, he'll say he'll know where it's going to get rid of the ball. So you have to get pressure. And you have to understand is not gonna come from Erin Donal because Bill Belichick thing is he's gonna take the most important weapon away and make the other guys bitches. So if I'm Wade Phillips, I've gone to dominant students said, you know, what if we're gonna win the Super Bowl you have to be them VP on Sunday. And you'd better be ready to play you're gonna get single block. And you got to cause havoc the whole time. Not they follow. You gotta come off the edge. And you gotta get there. One or two times. We gotta play man coverage make him hold the ball low bit and YouTube gas have to win the game. And that's my philosophy. It feels like that. When the patriots have lost a big game. You know, the giants in the Super Bowl had pressure up the middle. The ravens could bring pressure up the middle. And we we said it on the pre-game when we had the giants. I said Justin tuck, we'll have a chance to be them VP because they're gonna make sure Michael Strahan doesn't beat them. In those inside Russia's they're going to have one on ones, and Justin tuck was huge that day. I would of the patriots to against a young quarterback in a very talented running back. They will mix things up, and they'll play something that they may haven't played all year and saw McVeigh Jared Goff. We're going to have to say, okay. What is this? Okay. What do we have what works against it and make those adjustments? We had the same thing in the championship game in. Oh, six when went to the Super Bowl. We got down twenty one three. Okay. Here's what they're doing. Here's a cover. Now with us. We scored thirty two in the second half last week Kansas City, scored thirty one in the second half. Once they figured out. You don't know what it's going to be. And you've got to be able to just quick I think, Sean McVay and golf that's how quickly can they figure it out and counteract when you look at quarterbacks it's hard to say, okay. This quarterbacks better than this quarterback because you played in an era you coached against Joe Montana. Steve young. And we Brett farve we can and you had Peyton, of course. But when it comes to Brady are we going to hold losses again. Like LeBron we hold laws in the finals against him. You know, as opposed to how many times Michael got there six times. What about all the times? He didn't get there. Whereas Montana went there four time. What about all the other times here's Brady and LeBron getting on their year after year after year? It's unbelie people realize how hard it is to do that to get to the championship game to win it and gets the Super Bowl nine. Nine times is it's unplanned heard of unfathomable when did you realize that Brady was better than Payton or would be viewed better than Peyton well, the the longevity and winning and getting there? But like you said, you really can't compare people. They're mad at men New England because the way I I rank things but you said Joe Montana. Elway those guys you know, we could hit them in the knee. We could hit them in the head. We could hit their receivers coming across the middle and it was a different game. So how would those guys function? Now, I renew would be the one I want. You could stay with me fair with these rules. I agree. If I take Peyton off the board, and you can start your team with any quarterback Alta. Current rules. I those mobile quarterbacks are so difficult. And that's the way I put John Elway. Aaron Rodgers those guys who can when you blitz them or when you can get pressure. You gotta front for like the Rams, and you can block them. John Elway could still make plays and run around. And throw the ball Beck, sixty yards across feel you know, those mobile guys to me, that's the different element. I think always the greatest quarterback of all time. But I I look at it differently. Because he he didn't have all pro offense of guys. I think he had Gary Zimmerman tackle, and that was it. But there were times when you need it a win you knew he was going to win the game for you. Then he finally got some help with Shannon Sharpe and troll Davis than he wanted a couple of Super Bowls. But those first three I didn't think that offense was very good. And the defense was no in and they were supposed to be built on defense, and they got overmatched, but we hold those losses like the buff. Hello bills in the Minnesota Vikings when you lose the Super Bowl. It's like, you're bums. But but you got to the Super Bowl, and we don't give credit to the Buffalo Bills. Right. I agree. John Elway was so good. I'm defensive backfield. Coach in Kansas City. Marty Schottenheimer were up four points is fourth down and ten and Marty goes for us. What are you doing coach is that I'm not putting the ball back to John Elway guys? Can't stop him. And I said go for let's get. Did you make it? We did. Oh, rob Thomas called a ball. And we won the game. And we didn't have to defend that two minute drive. And we celebrate it. What do we do in the off season? I know that we like to revamp whenever there's controversy. Let's start with overtime. Let me start before. That was something you sit. Let's start with fulltime officials. You get those guys working all the time. Get them in on Mondays all hundred twenty five of them to look at every play. This is how we're going to call it this how we're not gonna call it make it fulltime. And then in the playoffs heat the officials together if that was a crew when that happened to other guys would run they would ask for. What right. Hey, I saw this. You got it. We missed it. This is the flag. But because hey, I don't know this guy. He's supposed to be the best. You know? Cruise need to be together. Yeah. Egos get in the way a little bit. I on familiarity. Yeah. Okay. So over two overtimes. Okay. I like overtime the way it is. Okay. I'm a defensive minded coat. If we kick off I need to be able to hold you to feel if you're going to drive down fourteen plays and score. Then we we deserve to lose the game. I would on these rules. I would want to kick off stop the other team. Maybe hold them to fill goal. At least. We know we need the second time around. All right. As far as the play the non call. How do we ensure that that doesn't happen? It's going to happen. Okay. Get used to it get over it. I was a student at the university of Minnesota drew Pearson pushed off on Nate, right? Nine thousand nine hundred seventy five. Okay. He pushed off and they scored it happened. Okay. I don't know. Are you over it? I am over. Okay. All right. I was mad. Was nineteen years old. I was mad for a year. But it's not gonna change the people in Oakland. Still tell me Frenchie few Kwa hit the ball. And it shouldn't happen in the macula. Forty years. The you know, and we talk about it. And it's fine. Bert Emanuel caught the ball. Okay. We didn't go to the Super Bowl. I'm like drew Brees. We didn't go. How did how does the tuck rule get cold? Like how does that play get cold? Do do you think of this? It's an overreaction to something. That happens we try to fix it. And then you don't understand this unintended consequences from something wasn't talking the ball. Trolls Woodson hitch Brady and Ugo. How's that knife formal somebody fumbled the ball? And they Aye called it. This way should've called an incomplete pass. So they try to make a black and white rule. Cow. This whole catch. No catch thing. Bryant and Zakar. It's going it started with Calvin Johnson Calvin we saw Calvin Johnson at the ball. He's celebrating. And he had the ball for ten minutes. And they call it incomplete. And then to justify that they had to come up with this rule that now we've got all these no catches for the next ten years, and it's overreaction to a bad call. So we can't overreact to this. Here's here's our question. You can have Julian Edelman career or Calvin Johnson. I'm probably taking Jillian elements because I'm going to go to super book it. Yeah. I I agree because it I you go with Kelvin's one of the greatest athletes who's ever played that position. But the only highlight he has that we show is the touchdown. That was overturned. So there's no I mean Elman you can't write the history of the NFL without Julian Etem because of those great catches that catch against the falcons in the Super Bowl. You know that hit he took against Kam chancellor Seattle game. Like, I would take out Allman my Bank accounts, not going to be as user-friendly, but I would take his coming. I'm gonna give you a question. Then do you want to be very Sanders or Matthew Slater? I'll take person. Niro care about the Super Bowl ring. Not not at okay. If I said Emmett Smith are very sin, though, this the guy who went to here's wants Marcus Allen or Barry Sanders. Yeah. A little return volley. There you never get. Let me get. I know that by the way. You didn't answer you, Marcus zella. Super Bowl ended. He t-. He's got a new book. It's called the soul of team in which it's a team building and getting people to work together for a common goal fictional football team and they're struggling so Tony is hired as a consultant to get them on the right track. This isn't like the story the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is it L. We're going to let you think about who it might be. So like when I'm consulting. And they offer us a wide receiver who doesn't wanna play for his team. You can get is that also the Steelers Brown. Antonio brown. Could it be the jets and Keyshawn Johnson? Could it be t? 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He said he's preparing for against the grain. He's just gonna ransacked the set. Can he ransacked the set when we're done with the show? He said it's vital key against the grain is moments away. Don't take the Brady and going through these knucklehead. Did you guys know what's going on here? The props department said he's being a pain in the what you know what? Okay. That's all. I know. All right. So we got brisket. We got against the grain. We've got meet Friday songs as well. So we'll have that for you coming up. Our next guest. Has already been drafted in the first round by major league baseball is Oakland A's will likely be a first round pick in the NFL as well. But several sports that have not drafted him at all and have no plans to as right now. He's strong little or no interest from the NBA. The NHL is barely scouted him in his far as we know. No soccer team has reached out yet with a contract despite those deficiencies he should pick a sport real soon. So we can all get on with our lives. Please welcome Tyler Murray. Murray. Joining us on behalf of Gatorade. Gatorade dot com. Put right there on the show before. Could you now you're now, you're professional professional salesman? How's that NFL football feel? I'm not trying to make a decision. I just wanna know how that felt different college broken little bit a lot more while you can do that your rookie year. We're not gonna get along here. This. I I wanna make sure okay. All right. You don't want to make a decision. Are you having fun with this? I couldn't tell though were. Well, let me try this again. Hey, what did you think of that NFL football? Where's where's the Heisman Trophy sleep? Where is right here. Okay. But is this an Oklahoma parents house? Yeah. So you have like your phone. You may have an alarm clock Heisman. Do people come over and wanna see the highs. And wait. No. If I live next to you, there's one there's one at the school that one. Get see unless Christmas. Okay. They should be able to say, hey, where is it? Yeah. No, you get to pick it up. Get a picture with it. Yeah. It's good. Who did you meet along the way when you were you know, the whole Heisman Trophy ceremony thing? Was there anybody that you met at the ceremony where you went? Oh, boy, that's such and such. There's a lot of people. I honestly can't really remember who was your idol grownup idol. Which was sport. Ooh. I am how about well. What's your favorite sport? Also, I like a lot of blues. Okay. What's your baseball idle? I was the grownups Jose. Reyes is my favorite player. I was miss fan. Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah. It went down there you still Mets fan. No. Are you know, cla nays fan, of course? Okay. I just wanted to make sure because I thought maybe Ricky Henderson would have been some Jew. Even remember house weights. Dad would know Ricky pretty good. Yeah. Like, really good. He probably could've played running back. He looks looks like he's built again again. He was did you watch the Dion Sanders. Thirty for thirty about him plane to sports town airless nine o'clock. Naza busy. What do you mean? Busy just sportscenter festivities stuff like oh, you, okay. So you were doing media tour. Yes. You didn't get to watch it. Oh. Yeah. Because I remember when it happened. That was pretty amazing. Okay. Went but he took a lot of criticism. Oh, well, they just thought that maybe it was a publicist ploy. And then he was being selfish like he wasn't committing to one team. And then the other team. I don't get that only get that part of. But also he was a cornerback different. And that's why when people say, well, you know, Russell Wilson was in yesterday. And he said, you know, I love baseball. But if I dedicate too much time to baseball than people criticize me like, hey, why aren't you studying you're playbook because he's the quarterback. So that's the hard part for you. Because you could probably play both sports love to Oakland Raiders draft. You let's say just hypothetical while heard rusted of the phone that he would know. No, he's with the Yankee. So he'd have to play for the giants to do. If the raiders drafted you. Yes. Would that change anything about trying to play both? In my head. I would love I would love to play both. I think you know, that's up to that'd be up to the raiders as well. Who do you think would have a bigger problem? Other ages. Really? Yeah. I think Jon Gruden likes. She by the way. Appreciate that. Have you have you talked to Jon Gruden? Hungered? I've never met him actually. Paul bring out Jon Gruden. Crew. What would you do if he came out? That's it. That's it. Keep it cordial. Who else have you met at the Super Bowl? A lot of people everywhere goes just like, wow, you know. Pretty young. So did you get onto graphs that? I didn't pictures are like kind of thing, I guess nowadays. So okay doing that did you exchange jerseys with anybody this year? No, no soccer players do that, you know, the place locker to. But do you think you could play professionally? Yeah. Would you like? Okay. Three months to play work on the forward and stuff if I can get an MLS team into Oakland for sure. And then I got the Oakland Raiders. And then I got the Oakland A's. And then I got I there's one in San Jose. Paulie, I can make this work. I don't know what you've got going. Got a lot of stuff going on in my head here. You could be three sport athlete. Gatorade a love. This w w right, right. See what I can do here. I guess are you going to the combine? I don't know. That is he going to the combine? Dad had no comment. Pro day. I mean, that's. Pro day. Yeah. Yeah. I guess if you say. Yeah. It's it's okay. You can have a pro day. But instead of that I was going to play football. Okay. So you're going to have a pro day. Lynch minor when you report for the Oakland. Will you knew that? Okay. So you're you're ready to go to do that. Are you going to spring training? You don't know that is he going to spring training. Another no comment here. You know, these microphones are on right now. Yeah. Just. You wanna talk about Gatorade? Dating jitters. Okay. Drinking a little too much. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Blue cool blue. Yeah. You gotta say because I'm orange. Yeah. I used to be old school like the lemon li- like forty gator. I'm not a gator fan. Oklahoma sooner fan the right? No. Although I like Lincoln Riley. He's man I like Baker Mayfield. He's man. Yeah. Yeah. I grew up loving Oklahoma back longtime ago long, everybody loved Oklahoma back. Yeah. I mean, they were they were bad. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever meet Brian Bosworth? Yeah. He was crazy. The he was a big big big time star back then everybody forty four. Yeah. Jersey data where would you have gone if you didn't go to Oklahoma? After transfer. Yeah. All the. Oklahoma's the best education at the time. Yeah. Big we're supposed to have that year and then leave, but there was I didn't really look anywhere else. And now hurts comes to town. What advice would you give? Jalen hurts. Obviously is a new situation. I mean, he's been he's been in tons of you know, hectic hectic games become game. So but now he gets playing fund system. Yeah. No doubt. And I think for him. It's just. He'll he'll grass it's not. He's a freshman. He's understands office is yours. It probably will be different than Obama. But for him. I think he's making putting it into his own thing. Just playing his own game. How tough is it that you doing this with Gatorade? But you know, every place you go is going to ask the same questions. I'm getting pretty good at answering these questions. No, you're not answering. Exactly, you're shaking me off here. Now, I feel like I'm trying to tackle you. Everybody keeps asking the same question. I mean, those soon be answered what how long was it before. I brought up the following. I didn't ask about height eleven minutes. And you didn't bring it up. So that's got to be a record right of told. You're going to be pretty harsh so harsh. Yes. No. I'm just straight. I'm dishonest. I liked right. And she like, yeah. That's it. No doubt. So you're Fisher, heightened, wait. I don't know the official. Wake up and just. Have you been measured before the less over call the freshman year in okay, have you grown since then low key? I think so little little bit. So you're you're under six feet for sure. You look about size. You know, Russell Wilson was in here. And I and I'm in your corner. Like when I hear these scouts say while you got to be a certain height and all that stuff. I just wanna know if you know football love football. So I didn't I mean, Oklahoma's Lyman are as big as the NFL live that makes sense to me. I don't get the whole nobody can seal off of one. So. Yeah, you seem to okay, breezed it. Okay. Baker mayfield's still doing still don't. Okay. Who's the quarterback? You wanna meet? Oh, everybody compares the saw. I haven't got to meet rush. Which is crazy. Good, man. Yeah. No, good out of everything. I've heard, you know, watched seems like a great guy. But if you could sit down and pick somebody's brain right now. Let quarterback. Him. But I mean, you got Brady Iraj those guys, but I think Russ. Could you beat me in a forty yard? Dash if you if I got a twenty yard headstart. Yeah. Hello. Yes. Look at me. Three sport athlete in high school high school weight. Well, yeah. Well, I Lou. Would you play time to recognize? What'd you play? I played freshman quarterback. Freshman quarterbacks sport. I started. Okay. Started basketball and baseball. Shortstop shortstop. Okay. So you're the best part bring. I had. Yeah. I don't know are bringing. Got my highlight reel up on YouTube. He is Cuyler Murray. Who knows what he's going to do the rest of his life. Consumers can visit Gatorade dot com. 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No, let's not your typical interview. But I mean, even just the way he threw the ball. I mean, it's speed. Oh, yeah. Then he was thrown at MC love, and nobody else even close to that this week. I don't think there's any concerns over arm strength there. Yes. Yeah. Going back to where calamari wasn't answering questions about what he's gonna do. I believe that his people are telling him we got to keep this don't give anything don't give the media anything keep it both in play because they are working on lots of marketing deals in two different teams. And they're negotiating, and he's kind of in the position of having to defend it. Yes. You know? You're you're out representing Gatorade. And you know, you're getting these questions. So you can't be surprised when you get those questions, but you know. He's young and trying to figure this out in so big decision. And certainly got. It's a nice position to be an let's put it that way. 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Due to the home that he's like, I got it. You got the one that I'm gonna do send it in. Yep. Nobody's gonna fix the outfield to try to cover on a mean Friday. So. So we got four more meet Friday songs that will get to in the final hour this show. This is the return of against the great nobody asked for it. But mclovin has decided to bring back against the grain. Mclovin. Do you want to their? Yeah. Come on over here. What could go wrong? Okay. The club and taking a lot of stuff off of the set here and. Okay. Down the Xs and os of what happened the Super Bowl. I did as you know, patriots employees a fullback on thirty four percent of their snaps. The second most in the NFL to the Rams know this there too big fills up here in consumer Lord, Aaron Donald okay, their linebacking core a little weak as we know. Now, what's gonna happen is as you said they have to stop the run. But the patriots, you know, what the Rams are gonna do. So they're gonna flex out. This little fella James Devlin out too wide receiver play action sucks in the linebackers easy on this guy. This element is gonna come out here and be wide open. Right there key play play axis. Now. How fall out is this? Well, Kyla Murray hit me really hard with the path? And I kinda lost it on. No. We switched sides and Gough is here. What is the key? Strategy point for the Rams, right? They're going to do a priest nap read with this guy's going to come out here. That is Brennan cook. He's gonna come around here jets. We fake it. But did you know next that Jared Goff holds all the fifth long time in the NFL, which leads the patriots to blitz. Kyle Vanoise this guy down. Patriots win twenty eight twenty four New England victory. You heard right here against the grain. All my resources into the video teaser, Dan. I had nothing left. I had to scramble can you put that stuff back on my desk? Yes. Nice. That's well done. Mclovin. Kind of sympathy applause is what you got there. Make love. I don't know if it was that good felt like Legos. Yeah. So hopefully. You can just sit down. Just just just sit down. Pathetic. Yes. Against the grain is just as great as it was back in the old days. We see nothing has changed. Yeah. You know, what let's try to salvage the hour with maybe another meet Friday. So can we do that? Paulie how well. Let's see Vince in Virginia. We do that. It's friday. And. Gordon, george. Okay. Little David Bowie. Not bad. Did it Justice? For some rare, though, we've had some people try prints and Bowie and good though. Production is really well done. Yeah. So we'll have three more meet Friday songs coming up in the final hour. Chad from Trager is here and he's cooking up food for everybody. We tried to give Cuyler Murray brisket. He said to too early, you know, booger mcfarland's coming in and Boogers gonna get. I'm sure whole heap in helping of brisket. They're coming up. Final hour coming up. 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Mike Hampton, Mets Talk

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Mike Hampton, Mets Talk

"The views expressed in the following program. Do not necessarily represent those of the staff management owners have w gb live from the wgn studios in marriage new york new york and hello everyone and welcome to sports. Talk new york here on long island. W gb gary hart and here john cannery on the other side and brian grays on the other side of the glass here in the studio with me on this sunday evening january thirty first two thousand twenty one on the show tonight got former new york mets pitcher mike hampton as well as de those are the big new york beat writer for the new york daily news on the first hour. Sportstalk twelve forty before we begin. Just wanna remind everyone that you could follow the show on facebook twitter and instagram at w. gb sports talk. You can also visit our website at wg. Bbc sports. Talk dot com. We can listen to all past shows and check any show information. Lastly if you don't already do so we invite you to subscribe to the podcast. Wgn sports talk on itunes spotify or just about anywhere you listen to broadcast my party. John panoramas could eating. And how are you sir. Good good how. You has everything ready for that big snowstorm. That's coming Tomorrow morning can't wait for that Yeah well exactly. I guess doesn't have to worry about that because he's down in the beautiful sunshine. State of florida This gentleman was A seventeen year major league baseball veteran and spent a great season in two thousand with the new york. Mets and his name is mike hampton. Mike joins us on sports. Talk forty good evening and to show. Hey guys gone. Thank you for having me on well. I'm glad you're nice safe and warm Down in down in florida but before we get to the baseball stuff. I got asked question because we were doing our our prep for the show. Tonight and A picture came up and It was you during I guess a pre game in the two thousand world series shaking flies with some little five year old and turns out that five year. Old's name is patrick mahomes. Now you're down in tampa florida and i'm sure you're a A bucks fair. you can be Pretty forewarn. Between you know the kid that you shagged flies with twenty years ago against tom. Brady and your and your hometown team. You know what i would say a little torn Not usually just. Because i'm a i'm i'm a dolphin fan. I'm sorry we started. I was born in seventy two the year. They defeated the. But you know. I think it's. It's it's great for for the bucks fans for sure You know and and i think it's great for tom brady as well to be able to kind of put himself in that position and then be able to do it on his own in not i mean i'm not saying but bruce arians is amazing head coach but you know the bell check Shadow and bit him to kind of do himself but I my personal feeling is i think the The sheets are just too fast. I think having too much speed nine. I feel that. That's going to outweigh tom brady of they can just make pull up. Pull a rabbit out of his head. It seems like every every time it gets in in a big game and in a tight situation but I'm i'm. I'm pulling for the bucks but i feel that the The chiefs are going to win. Oh it's going to be. It's definitely going to be exciting game for sure For the chance for the people that are newer to to the To you you know basically the younger generation. Can you just give us a minute or two and just give like a a little scouting report on on. Mike hampton to pitcher just to let some of the younger fans know about About you is as a as a professional ballplayer. Well i preface it. This way Everywhere i went. I was always thought i was too small. I wasn't on make. it didn't have the size. Didn't have the ability that's kind of everywhere been of always had a chip on my shoulder. Really okay we'll see You know. I feel What i lack in high. And i make up for in heart and that's kind of how i played pitching mahatma sleeve. I always ran bases like Harrison fire for mediocre. My goal is to win that game and by doing that. I was helping my team but Played a lot of football grown up Who's couple allstate a couple of years. I'm really My dad kind of pushed me in that direction. I as well as baseball very very nice. Baseball and football has like four years old so It's kind of been in my blood for a long time but the type of pitcher. I am more of Stinkers and cutters and You know a wheel to win You never had the had the greatest stuff but but my will to win was Was pretty high up on the charts. So I was that. I i was a kid that That you tend to root for the underdog. Because i'm like i. It seemed like every every week. I was facing somebody. Six four six five ninety johnson six ten. Jeez he's i look like their kids out there. But i definitely went after a pretty hard and and then gave it everything out on the field as you can look at my history body parts outside of flying off whereas in my career so i gave it every. I gave it everything little five foot in franklin get handle you definitely. Had you know a remarkable career. I was looking at kind of refresh my memory. Because i'm you know. I'm fifty three and i certainly remember when you pitched and you were. You were originally drafted by the seattle mariners. Correct that's correct nine hundred ninety out of high school in florida. And that's where you played your first major league season. Yeah i was. I made the team as a non roster invitee twenty. I'm in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Three and i was kind of up and down that year before I went to winter. Ball that that that winter For in puerto rico. And i got traded from there to houston and so that was i was kind of getting my. My time is seattle. Anti started coaching towards. Yeah houston houston team. I mean going through stats and going through all the research doing before the show. I was trying to remember that team. And and you. That was some awesome wideranging. Tween you know the the the the double bs. And you and jose lima and shane reynolds. I mean that ninety nine season and we were looking looking it up. I mean you guys. Three starters had sixty wins. I mean it was an awesome awesome team. Not only you know with with the pitching but the power net lineup. That was just the formidable squad. Yeah it was so fun That was the time my career. I was trying to establish myself Shane reynolds was was rookie. Lima was was coming up We We i think Ninety four was my first big league season and then a starter starting ninety five but we kind of grew up together. Even our even our veteran guys at the time where you know physio and bagwell community Kansallis just had a good group of core of good deeds. We had Doug dre back. And greg swindale be harnessed leaders of the pitching staff. You know when we were coming up so we were really taught how to play the game of baseball and how to act in the big league how to treat everyone respect. I mean i really learned You know how to be a a major leaguer through all those guys in that club thousand houston and hope that i carried on and was able to kinda lynn that same lesson to say younger guys but yeah we had. We had some ashes the killer. Bees mean we had when we had sean berry and and dared. Val you know we had all kinds of ed pieces and We had some good pitching. We just had a well rounded team and we were mixed with a little bit veterans but mostly young hungry guys that just Looking for to make their way and then pave their path and We had some good teachers along the way. Well i think too that. I i was really impressed with and i had kind of forgotten. Maybe hadn't noticed was the the number of golden glove awards in silver slugger awards that you won in your career and you know for a pitcher. That's kind of an interesting aspect. Is that something you took pride in me. I think you hit eight home runs one season. I really worked hard on or is that not just you know. I definitely come easy. So i i was tracked by american league team. I was always a decent hitter in high school and stuff but high school and in a major leagues are quite different You know if one from face in eighty to eighty four on our which is like a spare on all the time and then next thing you know next pitching you see which is for me those from ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety four so i have four years break with as i was in american legacy any pitching and then man what a wake up. Call like being nevada's box per year. I was Relieving just trying to. I was like man i gotta i gotta step on my game so it was something that i definitely work on. I always tried myself from being an athlete. i we had a scout that actually worked for us when i was in high school. And he they were gonna take me in. Seven hours of senator I could. I could always run like an all around athlete. I just happen to be blessed to be lefthanded and So i was. I was really. I mean the whole not plan. Every day was kind of weird for me. Like you know sitting there in the hot sun in in and arizona as i'm trying to. I'm i'm at the medicine there at the fence chasing foul balls crossing parking lot some charting games. I'm like i'm usually roman centerfield. Getting at bats and stuff. And i had to take a step back but fast forward four years not seven investments the first time since ninety three ninety one man. I'm not ready for this. I had to had a bear down a little bit. Pick some extra vp. But i wanna be bad at always like wanna be improved on embarrassed myself. I think every major league baseball. I like lisa fucking fun. I'm going to be okay. i'll be on hannah myself. The test you know you were around always trying to be be be the one you know to defy the odds and you know i've been on the mound to me. I need all the runs. I can get out trying to score ryan. I'm still in basis. I'm doing whatever. I can take it off the face for half to like i'm trying to win so then after that debt. Great ninety nine season Late just before christmas. You get treated along with eric belts to the matt's What was your. What was your thoughts about about going to again. You know the mets and the braves and the astros seem to be the three elite teams in the national league at time. So you go from essentially contender to a contender in the east in new york What were your impressions about about joining the team at that time. Well i mean now. I remember i got the news. I was in my hometown of home assassin. Florida and we're on a bike a stationary bike in a double wide trailer. Basically what they have where we worked out. They would turn their turn a trailer into a gym. So i'm news. Book cost the skin. Oh yes it good question starts like first of all people like men. Ain't nobody saying you know. So being living in florida in an and mainly retirement community. There's a lot of people from new york. That a lot of mets fan so They were actually pretty excited. I don't know if they're more excited. When i played for the mets when i got shaded with brave as the mets braves or are you. Just don't give a damn get out here but But i i remember in super excited just because one of the talent. I remember watching the The year before you know. I mean the excitement of of the homerun. Rapporteur hit to turn into a single. And i felt like yeah. Yeah the grandson single. I just i remember being traded but man i was like we. We're gonna have a chance to be right back and and you anytime braves in your vision. You know you gotta go through them to get anywhere. Such a solid team back there and management so they're pitching staff which is kept them in the game for twenty plus years. It seems like So you know you have to go to them. But i was super excited for the opportunity. i knew i was going to be a different feel for me and getting a country boy. The words onto the city but I just wanted to base the city so we live downtown. We live out of park force but we lived down and we wanted to expansion city. And i think my boys are five and one at the time Voice now the twenty five or twenty one so times have definitely formed by but i always wanted to embrace the city and my part of it hardly faltering. I was able to do that. Capture that and all the way to the world series. I've turned on. We have three magical year for for not only myself that the teams well let that was it. I mean you know you you had a. I think it was fifteen and ten that season you won the The lcs of mvp. What what are some of your your memories from from that season. i mean you know. Obviously you meet the yankees. Yeah i well. I remember it got off really well badly well. We went to japan. And are they to keep us in the game Somewhat but i remember. I think of his five innings. I wanna say to hits two runs. I want to say. I might have walked like nine up. Four hit to a hit margaret a couple of times like i had to one two three double plays like it was really really not good at all but i mean it's to run. We're still in the game. We end up bonding. Hit the single walk off. The next game was going to split there. But i kind of got off to a really slow start and i think i wanna say something like three and seven with almost seventy are a like into into may and i was just like i remember how bad start in And san francisco and is is one of those ones. Where i need to. I need not a come to jesus meeting but ended the come to my answer meeting doing you know i'm just coming off a twenty two and four season where things went right and then you know which has to if you're gonna wanna games leaks but why you know why. I don't throw ninety five fat and i don't do this. I don't do that just being yourself. So i kinda took a long walk and over over a night and and kind of clean the slate. And then i think from then on i was like fifteen three or four thirteen in two thousand and three the rest of the way and Got on a good roll and we cruised it to the playoffs. The high and everybody was feeling feeling good about ourselves. And our chances to go in which instantly the gift to the world series and and it worked out that same and going back to the The game Game for the The nfl game five of the nfc s. you described it as the game of your life. And i i absolutely remember that game. But unfortunately i remember one of the things i remember and it was a fortunate bad incident in the eighth inning when j got Got belted and it was in your bench clearing brawl. But other than that. I mean to be. That was one of and i john and i are a little bit older than you. Mike and we've been met since we were born and I i'll honestly say that was one of the best pitching outings. I've ever seen out of out of a mets pitcher. And and take and the utter joy that i remember seeing team jumping. I think three times up in the year before he caught that last. Ball on the ninth inning. Just just a recollection at the again as you called it after the game the game of your life. Yeah i i remember We faced the yankee Earlier in the season it was kind of hype. That kind of you know felt like probably the biggest game plan like during the year. So i like i was kind of prepared. I kind of my mind and mental. I'm like this is what it's going to be like. I mean the whole world is watching. And it's like new york when when all of new york's as watching you watching you. So i mean i just i just felt like i was locked in on myself comfortable against their lineup. Had success in the past You know. I just felt like i wanted. I wanted to sears. Over anytime exteriors goes longer. I mean the the more chances for some bad things to happen. If you got the lead enough so Not was from from pitch one on. I mean i felt i was i was in control for. I was locked in mike. And i don't even know if i shook him off the whole game and just felt like he put it down. I'd hit mean and it was just one of the things you've got an early leave. And then i was able to settle down and and if they focused on i really felt like that was the most confident i've ever had in a in a major league game. Yeah i really felt. Like i was gonna do and mean I wa tell like that and and then ways in pitch pretty well. I've never really had a horrible outing when i felt dot com confident up. I mean i was going to have that game and I mean it was getting headcount was doing the things that i mean. You're pitching is also the minor leagues. Who told you. Hey get your head. Count and stuff. 'cause situations are gonna swing pitchers and my career on god's balls i mean i've tried to got to stay on the edges of the strike zone as much as possible that you know my my goal is to solve all the would like a strike and then it's going to end up in a ball and They regressed played in my hand. Defense was amazing. I mean veteran guys. I mean i felt like at anytime to balls on the ground. It was caught on yet. Affonso the zeal. Insurer i mean like the ball was not going anywhere so i just feel confident of defense and I got into a rhythm and we rolled and men would of what a magical night like. I said it was the nfl unpopular with all. I mean they were letting me up after that game. I mean i was so locked dan. I was really mentally drained. But i mean shoot. You're going to the world series for the first time. I mean there's nothing better than that. Now what you know kind of jump ahead a little bit just out of curiosity you know you ended up going to the braves. What was that like you basically rivals teams in east and and you ended up going over there and pitching guys like maddocks. How was that you know from for your career you know it was It was amazing. Sitting listening to those guys and watching a lot of this place like claim. A small plane grammatical. How they're going about their business how they do things and their routines and Both great athletes. But i think we just had like a different motor. Like i was ripped really but these guys were able to compete envy so good and and it just always seems like their control and i was like man. How do they do this. Because i mean. I know my i try to stay composed. I can on the mound. I get off the mountain and fool menu. I mean i'm sure you can see them. Highlight tapes rip excited about these guys. Always like man like never seen pissed. I mean they they would get their learning the professionalism of baseball to them. I think it was a good thing. being in in new york for one year i don't think it created as much survival. We rivalry for the teams in general. I think it was more about the mets. Because they come back and they let me have it which say has great bringing lingerie and fans and cheering one way or the other more fans that are so It wasn't that huge of a deal for me. But i will say one thing That i love about chance when i go back to new york. I mean they're always. I mean super nice super genuine. Thank for two thousand. And then like that and mike so as much as there are some that Like the third me down the down the river. There's a lotta Mets fans that appreciate that year All that for your heart vote again. Speaking from you know to fans that have been methods for fifty years. I think the thing that i i appreciate it more. You again growing up a little older than you. I was left handed pitcher pitching in high school. And i was. That seem kind of from that. Same kind of mold. And i'm also five ten and a half so i fit that mold so to me you always always put the passion out there with every pitchy made and i think as a new yorker as long islander we we appreciate that and i think that You know that showed a and regardless of what happens you know the situation of leaving you know you again. I know it left a bad taste in a lot of mouths. But you know i try i honestly i you know as john said before about the silver slugger i think you know. I think the main reason you went to colorado's because you really wanted to become a center fielder hitting third and had twenty five home runs at iraqis. Is that really true cruel. man. I honestly thought about i i was it was like him in my In my limited my sixty seventy eight talking to compete you know. Yeah and like for the for the most for the first few years like i know i was going to get a fastball away so i like to get extended so i'm like i should pretty far from play kinda dove labus oath. You know as a pitcher you get. Your first case was good fastball. Get ahead kind of whatever. So i just started jumping anat early and i started gavin. That the next thing okay. I'm not getting that i this way. Then they started fits me like a real pitcher so I mean like a real hitter. I mean it was. It was awful. I was facing off. Forget the san the san francisco And it was around two thousand thing my medicine like he threw ninety seven hundred miles an hour and he threw me three straight sliders and i walked back in and iraqi larry goes mistrust respect. That said no. That ain't that's bullshit disturbed me. I mean let's go ninety. Give me one. I'd rather just not having you feed me a heater upbeat one but I took pride in. Like i said i mean i felt like if i could come and and and standing on second after one pitch as a as a pitcher i mean i know how it feels like gonna pitch the hit off a even if there's no damage years like oh man come on you know. Some of the beginning could create some havoc so Yeah definitely An enjoyed Hitting and the silver sluggers They just kind of you know. I mean i think westfield was great you know that balls travel a little more but i mean i also kind of gave me confidence another place. I don't know what my i know. My first batting average might have been like one thirty. And then. I think i've been up to like one and then i think i started getting around two hundreds in my like my third year and internet on i mean i was legit. I mean i you know two fifty to three twenty on you like in and compete so If you take away those first years. I've probably been around to eighty but i just. I competed from the time i was. My dad isn't still that any from the time playing people or just chasing somebody around the yard or whatever it is. Why do that'd be the best back so al. According baseball reference you had a career average that to forty six all right. Yeah that makes sense. So like i said it's the first one one thirty one sixty years on a creep up a little bit there but But yeah it was. It was and you know even even the guys on the staff we'd we'd have patriots competitions and stuff like that. This is competing and i think even nowadays. It's like the one number one thing. Any of the coaches that you listen to college or or pro or whatever they said get your kids can eat. And i'm like what i like. That's why it don't do that. Normally but you just have to get kids to compete. Because i'm not a key. Kids have the greatest stuff in the world. The most dynamic magical ninety seven on our feet or saying for unbelievable power. But you know he's got gotta find a way to keep them like man. I give me ninety seven feet all day long so it leads me to ask. I'm curious as a as a former pitcher. What is your feeling with the national league going you know potentially going to the d. h. And not having pitchers hit it all. I've heard some some people say that it's good because this neil pitchers get hurt when they have the hit. What is what is your feeling about that. Personally i just i don't like it at all I i i approached every game like i was still in literally One of the best compliments got was from From george breath news white house. Because i just love the way my. He's a kid on the mound. Might be bleeding. Cancer dirties like other. I mean that's that's a really high approached it like but i'm gonna hit a ground ball in the infield. I'm running as far as i can. This is what you're supposed to do in the gap. I'm looking to go two. Maybe three i mean that's what you do. You're pitching i mean. You got three run lead. You do whatever it takes not to give up three runs. It's just like just like your little ligament. That's just how i i was born and raised. Plan the game. So i mean i never changed So i'm definitely Pro National league pitchers I just think it's just that's how you know if if you're going to do that and you're not even separating the leagues you don't even need to call american league and national league. I don't think you need even have divisions other. Thank you take the best. How many playoff teams. I don't american national. You just take the eight ten twelve records and he put them plows letting them play instead of getting a five hundred team or below partner team ball. Seven ninety eight yes. Just take the best if you're gonna have not having if you're not going to different league than his fake the best teams and let them just play it out so mike in the last couple of minutes we got with you so what. What is mike hampton doing these days now. I know we saw you coaching A few years back So what's what's what's What's my campaign do and now. What's a typical dana light gloves. Danna life I get up around six o'clock Start to have. Some coffee started making the kids breakfast. I have My older boys are twenty five and twenty one out of the house that have a daughter. That's eight and a son. that's five and I like to coach them. Mostly and I i'm i'm coaching flag football. Soccer goes steve off Man you wanna talk about. I think there should be a metal or a incentive package for all these dad go there and coach these four and five year olds without this completely. You wanna talk about man posting these these these big kids these adults and and in a minor league and other they can listener they can just you know get released. These kids here they. Oh my gosh giving them the listen to one of the most amazing thank. You can break through and have a kid actor looking at five years old and listening. Oh my gosh. Give him the guy medal like ten years deal. I mean they can. The most highest paid coach of all time so Spend most of my time with my family coaching. And and enjoying it. You know it's fun it gives They perspective on especially kids are catching ball for the first time. Or you know you. They started listening to you and and keeping their head down or making certain places. is very rewarding I spend most of my time with family doing some real estate. Investing and things like that around The scottdale area. Where i've moved here on in scottsdale and i've been here about fifteen years now but i do still call home. I go back and forth and family their stuff but We're most retired out here And just living life and and enjoying watching Sports and hoping that we can keep baseball as normal as possible for the rest of his life Listen listen mike. We really appreciate you joining us on. Wgn sports talk Have a great rest of the evening and Lots of locked here all right. Appreciate it guys and go. Yeah that's it thanks. Mike curry interview. And mike hampton was. That was absolutely fantastic When we come back on the wgn sports talk york. We'll have de chateau star. Who is the mets beat writer for the new york daily news joining us to talk the two thousand twenty one medicine what what's going to be going on over the next few weeks of spring training approaches gary in john here with you w gb sports talk. Come back in a few minutes. You're listening to sports. Talking to yaw tune in every sunday though the long island w gb broadcasting on ninety five point nine fm and twelve forty or with. Listen live online at w. g. b. radio dot com stay connected. The thought new york on wgn by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram ask. Gbd's sports you're listening to sports. Talk in new york on long island's you gp back to the show and we are back on wd sportstalk new york gary harding and john panera with you unfortunately Our guest he should kosar. Who is the map. Eat writer for new york. Daily news had to cancel for an assignment so Indifference trump trib our. Maybe it's a trevor bauer deal. Yeah we also just heard that Mlb and the major league baseball Are looking to possibly alter. They started the season instead of having one hundred and sixty two to one hundred fifty four so That that that's the possible reason it could be but unfortunately not a not a Were a little bit bums. We couldn't get her on and we were looking forward to it but Some mets question. We were going to get to some stuff but let's let's talk about it for ourselves. We can weaken interview each other about this and hear what's going on. I mean you know right now we got our situation you know is he is he or isn't he going to be The next potential star player for the new york. Mets were hoping. So i mean that would be an ao looking between the yankee starting starting pitching staff and the mets starting pitching staff i. That would be amazing. It's definitely definitely. And i heard that. I mean i read something this morning. I said at the mets and the angels were like the the two teams that it was down to. But something with the angels and mickey callaway flowing out something or i read an article. I was kind of doing stuff so like yeah i. I don't know what nikki cowan would have bearing on. Yeah i'm on a met. He'll per se but it's not a it's not good you know but But what i mean look at the obviously the roster situation the the acquisition of lender as your up i mean you know i am so you know i. That's one of the things. I'm really looking forward to get. You know you know me. Long enough. John for many years you know. I like players that that put their passion and put their you know. Put their mark on a team again. My can't was was one of those people. I was really. I was really disappointed. You know when he left the you know you know reasons being again. He mentioned that you know he got you know ripped by the mets fans for for that and you know And the media as well. You know but mike hampton was always one that you know that that put you what he what he meant. You know you know. He was giving you everything he had. An edge showed in his face. It showed in his continents every time he stepped on the mound or every time. You step to the plate you know what you get. You're getting one hundred percent. Because as he said he was a guy that just did not was not expected to be. You know as as good he gets to that level. You know you know again. Five ten you know short and stocky. You know pitchers we all know. We all know now. A typical pitchers six four six five two thirty to forty. You know my i. Guy of mike hampton stature would probably be definitely not looked at as a potential major league prospect. Just doesn't happen. But he he to me that one small sample set of a season you define what a new yorker was about and to find what a new york player was about right. He started off with saying not not a great start to a season again. Turned it around the hung in there and you know ended up going whatever thirteen you read the rest of the way through yup for sure and you know i i you know going back. I went back and looked video of that game and i and i remember watching the game my mom because you know my mom was such a huge huge met fan and she and she liked it again. The of player that a mike hampton exuded and You know so you know so. I remember the memories of watching that watching the game with our. And i like those kind of players and lynn door is that person. He wears his emotions on his sleeve and his passion for the game. I don't know very very few people that You know that gimmick that right now and and he would again. He's going to fit. New york throwback with the personality. You don't see unfortunately and maybe that's the way. The sport is kind of stifling. You know our players like him or not. It reminds me of another new york that shortstop. Unfortunately we're hoping to have him as well. Jose reyes again brought you know like him or not. He brought that that law. That you know this love eve or whatever. They call that expression to the game. And that's that's a kinda guy. I always root for both. You know i mean you. You want somebody to take to be proud of the crash that they wearing on their chest and show the love of the game and you know again. They exude that at again. Another person on this mets team that shows that is dominic smith and that was one of the questions. I was really looking forward to talking with each about you know. And you mentioned it with. Mike would think with the Non d. h. trish year in twenty twenty one. You know it's gonna take some of his at bats away and you know for you know. The difficult season at the mets had one of the bright spots how dominic smith and in the d. h. spot was was was magnificent. You know you know with With pete taking a lot of the time away at first base he wasn't gonna get it so having him as a perfect setup and how many times did he come through. You know when the mets needed them during the season you know despite all the problems of how many harvey is he had. What forty nine or something ridiculous. It was it was. It was a lot. Yeah i'd i'd have to go look real quick but yeah it was it was it was a tremendous amount but you know the You know of course. The mets traded long time in long island native stephen toronto blue jays for for three right handed pitching prospects. And you wonder whether you know it was just you know i. I don't wanna say they gave up on even that but whether just it was just time for you know a change of scenery you know i like. I wish him all the best. I mean i mean for a guy you know long island kid you know playing for the mets my my My aunt for shoes telling before she passed away she used to be a An aide one shade where he went to school. I think i remember if it was elementary junior high and she knew him he knew his family. Well and when she passed a sh- we they asked the family got a card. From stephen matt's his family of condolence cards truce is very nice. Oh wow that's so. It's kind of a shame in my book that he and i unfortunately i have to say. It wasn't surprised. I guess here. In there that that that they were going to trade him and even when he got five point two million. Or whatever i i i wasn't i wasn't totally shocked said but i wasn't shop. Yeah and of course marcus. Stroman took his option deal and he remains with the team and again. I think you know another again. Another long island kid to root for but he's to be. He's the big x factor. Because when when marcus stroman is on his game and again we're talking about another small stature. Pitcher and markets is smaller than my candies. Only five foot seven. I mean yeah. I didn't realize that until he's yeah five foot seven hundred sixty pounds maybe so very short stature but you know again very crafty pitcher but to me. He's the x factor. You know even if for if not the mets pickup. Trevor bauer. i mean he's gonna be. You're gonna rely on him to be your number molly. Trevor you number three if it's not easy your number two because you don't know what you're going to get right away from noah syndergaard this point you know will Oh god i'm forgetting. I'm forgetting the names right away. The staff You know whether roscoe he carafes go right. That's that's the other x factor. And he's like thrilled to be coming to new york as well. So you look at that. You're looking at potential staff with the ground. you know. incorr- lasko and in the air. It's got joey keys. casey was. Who's another factor y'all but he knows you know what you're gonna get outta. Yeah you got and you picked up yesterday as a as a handed bullpen gyco. Dave wilson is store free agent. And i i liked. I liked what he's brought to the table. You know coming out of the pen you know not necessarily be you know. Started him as a specialist but he but he had. They had such confidence in him. They put him in all situations. And i thought he he did incredibly well and i'm really surprised that no team has picked up on him yet. You know but you know Reading in the post today somebody You know somebody predicted the mets to come out of the national league east and you know this is without knowing that you know the bauer factor comes in so there's a lot of good. There's a lot of good positively for a change coming out of you know out of city field in that area but yeah i would be remiss if we didn't talk about the fact that you can't have him at off season without soap opera. Yeah off you know doesn't matter who's east won't teams you know not even talking about i'm not even necessarily talking about the steve cohen situation on talking about. You know our our former you are one month. Gm wiz kid was that makes the linda ordeal and then we find out who is sending out nasty picks while he was a assistant gm in chicago. You know years a lesson to anybody. Listening to dvd's sports talk right. Now go back and check every tweet you've ever made because you don't know what's going to bite you isn't as being file she'll media is just too so destructive because you say things out of hand in your youth or whatever and a moment of passion and ten five ten years down the road it can end up biting you and it does it does. It's you've seen this happen so many times that it's politics sports. Whatever so it's like. I tell people time if you're going to host on these things man you lose your brain before you do it. Yeah i mean you know. There's there's ways you can. You can poke fun at something or a friend or something like that. And you're not you know you know you don't you don't put your you don't put your politics. You don't put you know crazy things like that. You know if you're gonna get harass people. I mean it doesn't matter whether it's social media or whatever i mean you just don't harass people if they say no they say no. I mean it's just common sense. It's it's not. Even you know a social whatever buzzword. Now it's just common sense. I mean i guess i was raised differently. I again i even. Even people of our age bracket are are just as guilty and again. Yes you're right. We you and i i think raised very similarly and You know we just don't you don't put things out there and that's how you see. It seems like every day you know the not necessarily sports but like you said in other facets light somebody is getting either fired or arrested or or do something because of a comment that they did also social media. And it's you know. I a our rpd rabbo time. I'm not. I'm not a big twitter fan. I you know. I do to promote the show. And you know i'll do certain things but you know it's just going through my list of people that i follow and some of the things i see it. Just it behooves me as to how people can be just so stupid. It's just they don't they don't have that Of self awareness that they understand you know there's an old expression what you do in life echoes throughout eternity and you know what you say on twitter and facebook is echo throughout your life yet. And you don't know when it's gonna come back to haunt you exactly. Let's change gears. John we talked about. We talked about the mets. And unfortunately we didn't get to come on with us. Seven days from now is the super bowl. I mean you know marketing and everything else any other year coming up to super bowl. They're such height for not only the game. But you know the parties that you'd have and you know all the all the things that are going on this year seventy five hundred people going to beat the super bowl. You know Major companies are not doing the ads that they normally do for example. The anheuser busch. There's no clydesdale commercial this year. Which is a real shame now. It's just it's just so weird you know everything going on you know this year with the super bowl and for the first time in fifty five years a team that is playing in. The super bowl was playing in their home stadium. That's just amazing. Yeah i mean. San francisco's played Super bowls at home in their home area. Not in their home stadium. I think they played in stanford the forty niners played one super role that they had. But it's really it's really strange. I mean My i have family down in tampa. My nephew is a tampa firefighter. Emt and for years he's worked Home games that box stadium You know as as emt. And i saw pictures today of the his family. He's got two young children and they went to the super bowl experience. And that's pretty cool. He's cool. Yeah i mean you know they have every year and they're still having it there in tampa but obviously on a extremely reduced scale and it's supposed to be focused on first responders or something that Well they gave seventy five hundred seats. Actually twenty two thousand at the super bowl. Seventy five hundred tickets were given to vaccine first responders throughout the country and they're being flown into you know into tampa and that but you know it's just it's so weird you know you know i'm not you know there's no you know. Of course something obviously working from home. You don't have to work environment so you don't have your little boxes going. you know. There's no there's no hype up for the game. You know that you'd normally would have every year but looking at the game you've got you know one of the greatest quarterbacks that's ever lived playing against i think the next greatest quarterback that ever lived very impact home and yeah There was an article in newsday today. Easier to post. I'm not sure which one but basically you know had a had you know Tom brady had supposedly a very nice talk. With patrick mahomes two years ago when when brady beat them to send the patriots into super bowl and it was kind of like you know you know you know stick. Stick to your game stick everything. You've got the right attitude. You got the white things going. Things are going to go your way and you look at two years later playing each other and you know in the biggest game of the year the kansas city three years in a row with Homes at the helm going to the nfc championship. Obviously losing once winning twice against my guest. Buffalo bills yeah formed out with that but but you know kudos to buffalo for the great year. But i'm as strange as it may seem. This is one of the super bowls. I'm really looking forward to be very enjoyable. And and it's interesting to me that he's back and i know there are people just can't stand the guy but you have to respect that i mean yeah he. She takes a totally different team and and he's back. Yeah i mean claire. We talk about you know. We talked about things like that. We talk about you know about brady. And she's got he's like. Oh just just just looking at. And his little smug smile and he just. He just can't see his stand up. And you know if. I think if brady was playing any other any other team or any other player i might. I might be rooting for them. And again i have family in tampa. So i'm sure when i you know if they hear this you know they may. They may be unhappy with me. But but i just again you know. We talked about it in the past. We talked about patrick mahomes and we talked about the influence that his father had on him. And i think the the lessons learned as a kid growing up in a in a professional sports club house. So he he gets every he's got everything the ad shows and it shows in the way he the way he presents himself the attitude he brings. You know he's not a he's not flashy he's not show off. You know he goes to work. He does his job. He's passionate about the game and and and shows it when he when he when he's on top and and plays the the absolute ultimate professional when he's not and again a guy you wanna root for right. You know you only can hope that you know a guy with that attitude and the guy that that exemplifies everything that he is placed on your team and I think the chiefs of tambo's look good. Obviously but i just stick the chiefs. As as mike said earlier on the show you know they you know the chiefs are just just too fast too quick and you know despite the fact that you got the greatest of all time behind behind center for tampa i just think. And then tampa's defense is very. It's very underrated defensive. And and did a great job against green bay. Last week i just think that the firepower of kansas city is just gonna be providing a little too much. I mean i do. I do not think it's going to be a blowout. I think it's going to be an extremely close game. You know maybe four point separates. The spread is running right now. You know three or four points But you know as. I said. I can't believe i'm looking forward to a super bowl that any other year would be. You know there would be so many so much. Fan and circumstance would be so much pomp and circumstance about this game but you know in the world we live in today. It's just not. It's not going to be that way and it's it's a real. It's a real real. Shame If any islander fans of left the broadcast of the game we know it's three two one philadelphia after the second period At nine thirty tonight we are going to take your moan and groan and Crying calls maybe. Your cousin might call now. It's it's tough right now to be a hockey fan these days of the islanders struggles but You know it is what it is you know. Hopefully third period. Hopefully hopefully things will turn around and get better but you know I will say. I haven't been watching watching it but basketball's interesting in new york. This year i don't know be honest with I'm the knicks. Knicks are nine eleven this year. I mean you know as bad as they were last season you know right now. The knicks have actually looked kind of exciting. You know they've got some young talent and they've done quite well. Tom tiba done a very nice job with this young young talented team and I'm just trying to look up right now. The actually the nets the nets right now. A winning late in the third l. Actually it's not literally late courts early in the fourth quarter and it's one thirteen one zero six now. Yeah i think the nets forgot the word. defense yeah. I mean. I mean the the the big three you know of harden irving and kevin durant. It's been exciting. You know they're they're. They're thirteen and eight their game and a half behind the philadelphia. Seventy sixers who many predict they're going to the To the nba. Finals yeah. The knicks are right out of the playoff spot. They're nine and twelve you know they're they're five and five year last ten you know they're they're they're pretty much even offensively and defensively yeah. It's been exciting. I mean it's been interesting. You know you know the way the way last season went you know. It's been quite interesting. Struggle the clippers right now are leading the the The west at sixteen of five the lakers were one game behind a fifteen in six. The utah jazz. Just had their eleven game win streak stat. I mean you know utah. Jazz suspiciously them right. I mean you know golden state right now hanging at eleven and nine and the eight spots of curry back with them. You know again. I haven't talked basketball. God knows how when but but just leading reading the papers. It's been again. It's been quite an interesting Easing here and again. The hardened trade is again he. Our fans would have been in a stand. This would've been would have been crazy right. You know but you know here. We are sitting at home watching. You know you know dan. Lewis stands especially here in new york metro area but you know It is the way it is. We're hoping you know as as you know things get better as the vaccine. Start picking up and things start to improve you know. Hospitalizations are down. Hopefully that trend continues right and you know maybe in three or four months you know you and i can get our vaccines and you know You know i know claire. And our you know. Islander fan club or a booster clever. We have tickets. I think for a game in july at city field and and Ducks park in central islip. Of hopefully you know maybe by then we can start going go into games. You know i mean. That's the thing that we miss in this life right now is ability to be more and more normal. You know you know. I think this week number forty forty seven. I think that. I'm sitting at home rather than meeting work for all the time. Not such a bad bad thing. You know we tomorrow exactly but You know We can only. We only hope that you know that that things start to improve that you know we can get to do the things we love and and get to talk about. You know a game that we saw live you know. Just just what did. What did dr brooke say. On the last thing just to sit in the stands just suck down author oregon. Just enjoy that. Smells the sounds of a ballpark again. Right right mean. I'm enjoying as i'm sitting here talking to you and and looking to my left as the third period starting in the hockey game you know being able to watch you know. Watch watcher teams play. Live again but you know you know i i. It's it's it's it's hard you know. I mean yes. I'm saving money by not. Having my season tickets you know renewed. But of course i'm paying for my twenty twenty one twenty two seats at ubs arena. Which is starting to look more and more beautiful by day but You know like. I said you know. We hope that you know things will. will improve So we are running out of the end of our first hour of w dvd sports talk new york Game we want to thank. Mike hampton for joining us. was a great guest and You know got the reminisce about some good things about the mets and In our second hour of wgn sports talk new york. we're gonna talk to colin stevenson. Yes the beat writer for the new york rangers. jonathan. I is big. I own fans going to be talking ranger hockey. See our number two I believe our buddy. Paul kreischer is going to be owned by the way down dishes scored. It's now three to anything. josh bailey. Got his first goal of the year so when we come back collins even sort of newsday we'll be joining us to talk ranger hockey and we're gonna talk islanders in the second half so five one six six to three twelve forty years the number to give us a call one hour the books on. Wgn sports talk new york. Come back for our number two. The views expressed in the previous program did not necessarily represent those of the staff management or owners of w gb.

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07/26/2021 - Hour 3 - Trevor Bauer Won't Wear Dodger Blue Again + Super Bowl champion Brady Poppinga

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07/26/2021 - Hour 3 - Trevor Bauer Won't Wear Dodger Blue Again + Super Bowl champion Brady Poppinga

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That's going to be fun and interesting so keep it locked but for now we're gonna go to some baseball and unfortunately it's not really is not a positive story by any means but the trevor bauer situation in los angeles with the dodgers of course. Trevor bauer in this sticky situation where he engaged in some sexual activity with a young lady. That concerned violent. Yeah it started consensual for sure and whether or not it stayed that way. I guess that's going to be determined by the courts but there was a report rob in the la times that said among other things. It said the majority of the dodgers the majority of trevor bowers teammates. Don't want him back. And obviously the dodgers have not cut him. He is on leave and we all know how long that's going to last for him. The for the dodgers our friend friend of this show bill plaski. He wrote a column rob. Saying the dodgers should cutting. This was not a weeks ago to wells. Dave stewart who pitched for the dodgers. They had a celebration chris of one of their championship. Teams and dave stewart. Didn't show up. We had a story on. Mlb bro dot com about it in protest of this whole thing. that really felt yes jacksonville. Bauer yup that. The dodgers like on doing like what they should in this situation. Which is this doesn't fit. The dodgers brand. Do you know what i mean. And that people and people get it twisted they really do from this standpoint. Let me say this you chris. Once people know stuff that might have been private or your own private life. It changes stuff would you. Would you agree with that how they look at you know what it is. Yeah yeah okay. And i'll give you the perfect example not sexual donald sterling. You might have felt like you had something chris but when you heard the tape. Didn't it change like he couldn't be an owner anymore right rocky could right right and trevor bowers case. It's not that he can't pitch anymore. Somebody's not going to take a chance on them. But maybe not in that clubhouse with those guys that now they know something and they have to be able. You know maybe maybe it doesn't with your lifestyle or if you're christian or your whatever it is you know what i mean and you start to look at this guy. Say who is this guy like. I read these details. Do you know what i mean like. Who am i playing with. How was he on our team. You don't have to totally agree or disagree with what somebody does in their personal life but once it comes the light. I think it changes thing and i think that's where trevor bauer is and i think that's where his teammates when i was at the all star game in denver curse same thing. They had nothing to say about him. You know normally teammates or what are going to be like. Hey man let him have his day in court. Whatever you know we. we're pulling for. We want the guy back on the team. Were nothing zero now. I mean it's it's a disgusting situation. There's no ifs ands rebuts about it. And i don't blame the players for unless they were just gonna come out and condemning and they don't know enough where they're like you know warding where but here's my thing and let me first start off by saying this. What trevor bauer did is. Just flat out horrible. All right and as the father of two daughters is just is just completely out of line to say the least all right so the question rob on the answering in throw to you might do. I agree with plaski that the dodgers should just cutting and you know this better than me if they tried to cut him. They're gonna face all types of legal cases and the right right right. They're not gonna let it happen. And and that's you know you could look at something like that to and say well. Was this so heinous right. 'cause they're more laws is not contract right. Exactly you know. But my point here. Rob if i were owning the dodgers and again totally hating the things that allegedly happened right i would not cut him right now. Okay because number one. If they cut him they still have to pay him. One hundred million dollars. At least you know unless the players union guy off the you know. He's the highest player in the league. Right you likely stood the ramu hundred million dollars. And i hate to even use this term. But he's still is an asset. Now i would never want him to play for my dodgers. Okay unless you know. I mean you said it. Earlier we won. We have to let this thing play out in court right because as bad as everything was he saying it was consensual. And there's there's tons of evidence that at least a lot of it was right by like you saw it like she after the first encounter where he choked her till she fell unconscious and you know put his fingers down like did some some crazy stuff by the details. It is just. It's just ridiculous but they stayed in touch over the next three weeks and our and his reps claim to have a text from her saying she's never been more turned on in her life. Okay okay okay not gonna be all the pain gimme all the pain rar rar wrong or right like like alliance wr well. I don't know if she's saying trying to roar or our is our awro but quickly. I'll say is go ahead. I'm just saying. I would let this play out. And you know. We'll see what the court would determine. And then whether he's if he's not guilty or like i'm i'm trying to trade him. I'm keeping him as an asset and trading like. Let's say he's found innocent consensual and all that. Then now i'm gonna trade him and get something for trade queen or right right right. I'm looking at it as i'm gonna get some assets for him. I wear dodger uniform. But he writes token. There's no reason for me to cut him now. You know Unless the players were just so disgusted arrived that day. But he's away from the team right. He never has to be close to the again. No no he. What i'm saying. So let it play out trade him later and at least at least get something for it. And here's the other part chris. Everything you lined up was correct. But in the second encounter was so bad. Her injuries she had to go to the hospital remember. She didn't call the police who call the police. The highest doctor hospital right. I mean right. Why don't you have to call chris. Water the people and it was terrible okay but that she may have gone if she had gone after the first time. No they missed on the same thing exactly. You're right this is worse. Because she's not ears because charges no no she didn't. She didn't go to the police right right if people got under the nba fixed up. I guess i mean was like she was really bad and she was unconscious and he's still beater anyway that but the point is things can go sideways. Chris you might want it a certain way. But things go sideways. The bottom line is everybody knows about. Trevor bauer now. They know how he gets down. And i say that that's what it is now. Now right. I can judge you. Chris because i i know how you get down and i think it's public opinion. Do you under you understand what i'm saying. Might not all be legal. Maybe she she she she wanted to be involved in this or whatever but i think that's what they're struggling with if if milo team if he's told teammates don't want him around and say dude you don't you don't know what you have an locker room. Who got who got kids and wives. How do you explain that to them chris. I don't have a wife. I don't have kids but you would have to explain to you and your family why this is cool. That that's that's company offers like there's people in that locker room that disagree with one another's lifestyles others beliefs. You know what i'm saying so you. There is a point where you divorce what that person does in his private life right from how you may not like it at all but one is well. That's the thing is going to be criminal. That's they opened up criminal investigation disgusting right. I might find other things disgusting guys. Do that aren't criminal. And you know we got a job to do. And so that's why you work with me despite my life a no. But you'd like so. Let me ask you this rob. I feel you. i mean. I said if i'm the dodgers i'm trading him if i get the chance right but do you think let's say okay to to follow your your school of thought we all know now. This dude has got some issues right right that that many people will find. This is beyond. It's consensual what they didn't like a lot of dude like let's be honest if a woman asked you to do something like most i think many dues were like. I'm not right. i'm not doing the death okay. I'm not the least bit turned on by that. Okay so we know he got some stuff going on so that being the case. And the dodgers okay. They need to distance themselves from me. Do you think let's say founded. It was consensual but yet we still notice. Dude is bizarre that he still be able to play in major league. Baseball in that another team should take a chance or what the thinking bad like. His career is over now. I think that there's always gonna be somebody who's gonna give guys chance right like after some time chris not next week but after some time to say that you know he's cleaned up his act. He's remorseful whatever something like. Don't you think there should be. He's got to go to counseling or something like because now this is there so i don't think like there's no way whoever play baseball again. I mean trump. People have done really bad stuff because we talked about in the nfl. Time for hitler. Homicide right wire rape drug use. I mean you want to domestic violence. We saw adrian peterson thing with his child. Chris right became back to play and productive. So i don't think people can't come back. I just don't think the dodgers and what they represent as the franchise that they wanna play him. You know what i mean like. I could wind up on a florida. More a million on the miami marlins or the tampa bay rays. Do you know what. I'm saying chris like could you. What what's the difference. You know what. I'm saying like he's still playing for somebody. You still got guys. They have to explain that to their kids right. He got kids. That are fans of the team. And they're like yo they don't have the history and the prestige and the dodgers are brand. You know what the the team of jackie robinson could go on and on and on about what they stand for. You know what i mean. It's a little bit. These other franchises are johnny. Come lately anything or they'll they don't have any you know they don't have a crowd that they draw flies. You know what i'm saying like there's a lot of other things where maybe people in la do. I don't want this guy. We're going to boo him. How about if he comes back to the dodgers and they boo him every time he's out there and that's the dodger faithful man. I think that's a good point. I think the fans right and the teammates play a large role in this. No doubt mates her so like disgusted. They did look. We don't even want to be associated with. Cut him right like if they had a team. Meeting with. The man is look. Our wives are pissed off by our kids are asking questions. We got an explain junk that we you know. We didn't know about about right. And so you got to cut this guy or if the fans were somehow start a boycott whatever it might be. I trust me were emails and call the dodgers stadium. Would you right to the front am sure but but if you know if they really made it a spectacle then now the dodgers have to probably just completely cut ties with him but to this point. Nobody's made it that type of spectacle right. Oh not yet not yet. So it's not easy guy's a talented guy was young nationally. Young last year right bright. Well it's It is a harrowing situation. And like i said i would. I would send him away from the team as has been done and he's getting he's out straight of leave so they haven't violated any and everybody nothing they can do about them at this point so and then i try to trade him after this everything comes out so we will see i. Do you expect that will ever see. Trevor bauer in the dodgers uniform. And let me ask you this. Eight seven seven ninety nine on fox. Do you think the dodgers should just cut ties now. The no need to wait until the court case. And all that you've heard enough. The dodgers need to cut ties with trevor bauer. What is your opinion. Eight seven seven ninety nine. Or fox's chris rod the couple of fox radio fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. It's me bomb parker. Check out my weekly. 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They fifty dollars off and put on baseball. So that's why probably didn't here but apologized that have you guys talked about the teachers of the young lady. I have not seen. I'm jay leno. I haven't out there. There's some pictures and if those from you will never pitch major league baseball again. They would because you saw how just the description is bad enough. She look horrible. And that's why and that's why the the hospital had to call the police. You must to come in long horrible. You know what else. Let look this young lady needs to go to counselling to be real like you you l. k. It got out of hand. But you still. We're willing to go pretty darn far consensually if you didn't go away so when you meet you down. Sochi pitcher part is not essential He wanted to touch the backside and she wouldn't let him know and black and his. They said it's pretty bad. That's was a couple more times than the person talking about those delete. So have you. You haven't seen pitching no no. This is just ruling right. Yup thank you barry pusher. Yeah chris again You know if they're pictures man and people see themselves. Huron a main like. Well think about it. It's like the ray rice thing. I mean how have been players. Yeah people were accused of domestic vise charged with it a convicted out and it was not view. You know just because you hadn't seen it. Yeah that's a good way to justify singing in it was like. Oh my gosh nowhere route. You saw that it was like oh no you know what i mean like. Who saw is everything. Could they could be automata end his career. You're right if if it's that bad if you look at these pictures and go and i'm it's gotta be right by. We think so because because the hospital got involved thomasson. So bad yeah. Yeah you're on the couple of fox sports radio what's up. Thomas me on defending the that all the difference between him and every rise ray rice his wife was out for it but she was know nothing about the media for someone just i heard on the radio about. There's no pitchers no none of that. I'm like i. I'm but you know what i'm you know. I deserve another chance. But but what we're saying is if the and this is a whole new spin rabbi talking about now yes if the pictures are so bad and we. We're speculating then you even though you're right in that we've given other people second chances and maybe she wanted and it was. Consensual is still kasit so badly with people that visual because again ray. Rice is not the first player to be accused of being football player. Right of beating up a woman but the other one right. It was that we saw his. How would my god running back for the bengals who we got on video. Who punched out a girl in college in the store. Joe remember that. Obviously he's in the league right but that that was bad. That was a bad one to you. Why he's in the league still. Let's go to audrey massachusetts. You're on the odd couple fox sports radio what's up what's going on. Listen i'm doing well. Don't think that the la dodgers should cut ties with. Trevor bauer rob to your point right. Now he's being tried and convicted in the court of public opinion But at the same time there hasn't been a criminal component there innuendo. There's conjecture the speculation but without the criminal piece in this matter then the. La dodgers should absolutely not cut ties. Whichever better never mind the contract. Hundred plus million dollars over three years also talking about the two thousand twenty cy young award winner. So let me ask you this because we we agree. I think rob agrees that they don't need to cutting right now but would you trade him or would you still be open to having him play for the dodgers again until the criminal court weighed in on this matter. I'm not taking any definitive action is distinctly. No saying let's assume he's found innocent. It's heinous. It's terrible but she was consensual. But but i don't understand. Baseball has taken action against people. Jose reyes chris. His wife dropped the charges and what he still got suspended. Do you know what i mean like like. They didn't have to get a conviction against him. I people need to understand that host. Remember jose ramos. Your point is is no. I know and it's such a bad look that you wouldn't want plan for the dodgers acquired. I'm not saying that he couldn't play for any other team. But if dear the dodgers and you're getting pushback from players and fans for that story organization right right. 'cause generally rob i am like look if dudes if he can play in the league if he can play in kansas any. Why candy play in los angeles. You know what i mean. Whatever like back so we'll see this thing is going to play out i- brady pink super bowl champions about the joints i fox. Sports radio has the best sports. Talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at fox. Sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. art to listen. Live our next guests here. In the fox sports radio studios is a former nfl linebacker and a super bowl champion. You've heard him here before. Brady pinga brady welcome back. How are you was up. What's up guys always be with you. Doing great to have you on like you said has always now look brady. We call you the taste. Some hill apologised. Yes around these parts. Okay but i don't know you saw bobby. Bare said a week ago right. remind me about. He say tastes him. You know. Bobby abeer from louisiana used to play for the saints. He said they taste them. Hill is one of the greatest football players ever. Why even you had to throw up your mouth when you heard that. No i mean. He's he's technically correct. When you literally look at what it means to be a football player. I mean that means that you tackle you block you throw you catch your data kicked off. I mean the only thing he hasn't done is kick the ball through the uprights. Which i mean in some circles they don't even consider those specialists still ballplayers so when you talk about football player. He's done it all and i love. Nobody has done it at that level. I don't know maybe the history of the nfl. So i mean there's a very strong argument that you could make the that is the case. It's really hard to argue against. Here's my pushback brady. Here's my pushback. And i get what you're coming from 'cause like if you if you put a bunch of football players to a lot of drills and you didn't know who they were you're right you're coming away saying the guy that did everything. Well right is the best football player. He's not the guy who threw it the best guy ever. I get all that. But i believe this a lot of starters in the nfl if you if they didn't start at say linebacker or cornerback or half back whatever. Don't you think they're allowed guys. And i'm not trying to diminish taste zooms versatility and what he does. But i'm just saying i bet you. There are a lot of starters that if that was like they didn't start at one position and they were utility guy. They could do those things. Don't you think about the high level. The team would then use that player to know but they're mclovin linebacker. I need them. I need them in that. Regard like if tastes lord back this year. He's not going to be doing on special teams stuff you notice. That's going gonna be interesting about that situation. But no 'cause here's the thing most guys can throw the ball very very well and tasing can throw the ball very very well but there's no disputing that. People want to put them in the chiba category. Which tim tebow was below average. Throw our nfl standards that It's very hard to find a guy who wants to go run the hit somebody. Because here's why those two skills are so opposite in terms of mentality generally speaking for example in my store. When i was in fifth grade i became the best between quotations football player. It my small dinky little town in south western wyoming called evanston wyoming and. What happened was is my coach. Counselor once you to find the most important position quarterback. And i looked him in the eyes and i was like i would. I wanna play that week of a position. I wanna hit people and so. He tried to put their quarterback. And i kept telling them. I don't wanna play this position. I'm sitting stuff. What undoing. throw the ball. People wanna hit me. They wanna hurt me. I wanna be the guy hitting and causing pain and others. So they shifted position to put somebody else a quarterback. That's so find. Some 'cause mentality does not exist for most guys to be able to be somewhat of a physical player and then being able to drop back into the pocket and throw the ball now. A lot of quarterbacks would be arguing with me right now you know but when it really does push and shove they probably would agree with you trying to hit career longevity and all those kinds of things out throw the ball well. Let's talk about quarterback. Aaron rodgers apparently has a agreement in place in Going to show up for training camp. And everybody's kissy kissy and lovey lovey. How surprise you. Chris and i never thought he was going anywhere. But how surprised are you that He's back for the season. I'm not surprised because erin. Aaron is this is the thing that i it's been lost in this whole entire saga aaron higher values green bay packer way and the green bay packer organization. And what. I mean by that the greenback away which had already been an established. Kind of you could say theory. Which was more galvanized. When ted thompson came myself and i were both drafted the same year. Which is you plant team you know. And nobody's above the team and that's because that's just how this organization's built there's no owner. Who siphons in all the money you know. Everybody has their role does their job with. Oh all the way down and everybody has somebody. They have an answer to she. Neil answers to the board. The board in theory answers to the shareholders. The players. We answer to the head coach into the general manager and away. You know everybody kind of falls in line but that was the thing that kept making me believe like aaron has always respected that. And that's what he loves about green bay. And that's why i believe the whole sticking point of this whole situation has been or wanting to somehow finishes career as a green bay pakhtakor back. He doesn't want to do it for. He doesn't want to do with joe montana did. He doesn't wanna do with tom. Brady's he really wants to play. In my opinion. I've never heard him say this. But just when i've been around this is good. It's interesting yeah go ahead. He wants to because he's a competitor. And i do believe aaron knows. Hey i follow those guys. You know do what they did but he likes the blazes on people now and is there learning on person and the one thing he can do. That would be different for every single. One of those other guys is to finish his career with act. And it's also another thing. Is errands loyal. The packers in theory took a chance on him although it was kind of a different element back in two thousand five so he kinda feels package so those two kind of dynamics never made me dow like does he really want to 'cause i mean it can happen. People change all the time you know. Money changes people all that kind of stuff. But i never thought that was their personality or character and i believe as we're seeing training camp upon us and things are getting finally ironed out all the wrinkles i about died. He's holding true about even as you see the reports coming to the contract. That's trying to negotiate basically this contract in my opinion one to where the packers are saying. We want you here longer. And we're gonna show that to you we're gonna give you you know a contract. It's gonna void but at the same time we're gonna have a big hit in one of these years that we don't wanna trade you way and so at least it'd be his two thousand twenty two and then i guess there's a mechanism in there. I don't know what that means. Maybe that's what they're working on right now where they would revisit two years so basically what they're doing is they're cutting off his contract after two thousand twenty two bringing a mechanism to re talk about the next year. Because that could be as simple as hey jordan. Love isn't the erin. We want you to stick around versus aaron season yet during love's gonna replace me okay. You know what. I've been hit a lot. It's time to do the thing that nobody else did. So i'm gonna retire packers. So that's what i believe was the whole entire underlying issue with just wants to do something different. Everybody else brady. let's go to cleveland. And and as you know odell beckham junior mister second-half last season. And i said at the time i thought baker mayfield would play better without. Oh bj as great as ob. Jay is you know. Because he's a celebrity. Everybody likes him and you probably baker probably felt pressure to get him the ball. I that's what i think. And then once he's gone on he's just playing loose and throw into the open man. Now that odell is back and you've probably heard him say he just wants to fit in with the team and do whatever it takes to win a super bowl. Do you think that is what will happen. And do you think baker now has grown enough where he'll be like. Look i'm i'm gonna treat. Ob bj like all the rest of the receivers. And i'm throwing whoever's open. And i'm not worried about him looking at me funny and stuff like that. I mean what what. How do you think that dynamical work. Absolutely 'cause baker. You're right baker mayfield. Went out there and he on his own terms stood on his own two feet and played wealth and that generally goes to the to the. Oh what you were saying to the side of okay. Now let's i'm going to be the guy running the show and you're you're absolutely correct. I saw this personally. By the way with eli manning. And and schalke back in the day to where shockey was kinda that guy demanding demand at the ball fact. When they won the super bowl he breaks his leg pulled over. Manning's plays far better without than with them and they go on to win the super bowl so that dynamic terrible owns. That's what he calls every single quarterback to do this guy he's going to get. I throw a fit. And i do believe i broken leg. Subaru berry who's ceo was injured played wellness super bowl for philadelphia. But go ahead opened up that we want to go ahead gossip stuff but about although pets i met the guy and i was extremely impressed with his mccollum. Usually townie doesn't seem like what sometimes portrayed on the sidelines which is hey. It's all about me. I don't wear my throw a fit. And so i do believe how the injuries and then you see wow. They're being success without me. He doesn't wanna it's kinda like it's like almost at the gets historical which all the nfl guys. We're all of us. What am i said. Well you could just put someone will actually build his. He go to go out there as part of the team than to try to go in there and say. Hey i running the show now. I'm back so i believe. He's getting integrate himself. He's going to be a good teammate. And they're just going to be that much more dangerous essentially because you've got you know well sacramento opposite tasks year odell beckham. oh yeah. That's that's a good combination for big time. Jump forward all right. That's our man brady. Pinker super bowl champion. We appreciate the knowledge. My man thank sir. Thanks brady always a pleasure guys piece. I'm more coming your way. Keep it locked fox. Sports radio fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen live. Hey it's chris bruce off from the couple and the black effect network talking eighteen t. We all want to be hurt. And we're not it's frustrating. It doesn't matter what it is. Look you order sandwich with extra extra avocados. Then you get the sandwich nothing not a zip look you and i both know. Extra avocados is a weird request. An extra extra avocados is even weirder. 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I was too. I sources say this new woman's really got you changed de goodness. Wow listen a real. Let's keep your office. She loves baseball. A black woman loves baseball less. Keep it real. It's all about the way she looks. She'd been in like at least we got hockey left. You would've been texted her. Hey i never thought i'd get married. You like hockey detroit tower right now. I i made it was. It was one of those things that just kind of happened on. It was kinda crazy. But you know me. I like my ex wife tonight and i know you. How old is she about twenty seven. What i don't know how she is one. I didn't even look younger than thirty five. I've been with you album. Which you say that. But i have no idea and i don't have all the details but i'm going to go back through and figure this out and then you know like figure out if i can meter at whatever city. She's in and go to a ball game real simple public. Hi how are you. Let's go to a baseball game together. We'll talk about era and batting. Averages i have some cold drink and a hotdog. That's it he's ever no. Hey nice look. If if both y'all like baseball you know that could that could work. That could work. Did you see this story. Ben simmons and it's just a report. God that the sixers have really not been able to be in touch with him in the off. I got an issue with that. Oh god oh my gosh rob. If it's true. And i confirmed it or anything if this is true rob. I mean been should've been worked on his jump. Shot like not only started playing again. But it now if you haven't hit if this is a rock bottom and you're not willing to do something different. I'm sorry what's it gonna take. Because i got an issue if i'm paying thirty some odd million and i can't reach you. I'm sorry i'm not saying you. You need to check in or need to know where it's off season your every move but i should be able to reach you. You know what. I mean if i want this. Dari why i totally agree. I totally agree now. You know he just look. I'm not gonna pass too much judgment. Because i don't know the whole thing. No neither is not showing rob. You've got to be if i was in that situation. I'm embarrassed in front of the entire basketball were. I don't think he cares. I i hate to say that. I'd i'd then if you don't care granted you you would rather somebody be self-motivated right. But if you ain't going to be self-motivated then gotten at least let embarrassment motivates you to the point where you'll fix it. I'm telling you rob if he comes back next year as the same player now. I've been told that they're they're really looking to move him anyway. You a this taught year and they're not gonna give him away but does already like this. We're gonna work it out. No they're they're trying to moving and there are guys. I've talked to in the league. Who really liking still. There's mixed back some are like don't wanna mess with him others really like you think you could build around him not to these jaanus but you know what i mean like that type of push shooters around him. Let him play inside. Let him handle the ball and transition things like that which i agree with two but this is disturbing this is disturbing route. I'm with you i. I don't think it's i don't think he's professional. I really don't is not professional is not indicative of you really want to you know. Change your game or fix your game. I should say the i was a welcome back. Rob parker night. We hope you enjoyed it. Go the i choose apple. Podcast soundcloud download and subscribe five stars in the comment. Keep it locked. For jason smith the mike harmon business. Roundtable stands with the millions of americans across the nation calling for policing reform. We urge members of congress to continue working together to pass. Bipartisan policing legislation. 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Simone Biles Beams Back

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Simone Biles Beams Back

"Base by wha-what based base by. I'm so tired there to hot. Take down this show or the hot takes of the sports world meet the numbers that proved them rights or tear them down. Today is august third. Twenty twenty one. And i'm seriously the sports editor at five thirty eight. Joining me in new york is five thirty eight contributor. Jeff foster hi jeff. Hey sarah i'm actually not new york just for the record just a fact check you are you. I'm in dc because bethesda maryland to be more specific but same time zone. So that's new enough. This is my new thing. whoever is whichever host is nearest to me geographically gets introduced. I and neil pain is still on vacation this week but we look forward to calling into his bunker next week. Did you get up early this morning. At four am eastern to watch. Simone biles on the balance beam. I didn't i. Didn't i did a year. It's been fine. 'cause i've been hanging out with my mother-in-law lot who's obsessed the olympics but She's got this great quality of telling me what happens anything that's being shown on tv so yesterday like we started. I started watching the soccer game which was on and of course on delay because it was like you know what six pm here and she goes. Oh this game. I feel so bad for them and i'm like oh so i take it. They didn't win. Wait how did you avoid an entire day of not knowing. That was a little weird one because it was muddling saw yesterday morning. Usually it's the push alerts. That have been ruining. And i could and i know i could turn the push alerts off. No no never got one on that. So i actually didn't know. And i was out and about most things. I didn't actually know that result but until my mother-in-law let me know in match well then you didn't have lunch so that was nice. I still watch. That was a one. Yeah i was so confused by that penalty. I don't understand. Why still don't understand why i've watched the ever watched it like twelve times and i still don't think it was a penalty because it was like so you know. I know it's in the box but it really kind of that's like wasn't the dangerous part of the box and they were facing the other direction so it didn't like look like it was a threat if anything like didn't deserve a penalty was probably that even if she did take our foot or whatever. They said she did well and she also was like she was trying to kick the ball to. I mean when players collide. I don't know yeah. That's an interesting idea though. You should have to take the pk from wherever the foul occurred in the box. So it happens over there. You have to take it from over there a weird angle. What happens like right at the line that see. This is where revolutionized ran on. Today's show. We'll talk about major league baseball surprisingly wild trade deadline. Then we'll interview author and fivethirtyeight contributor devora myers about olympic gymnastics and finally will take a deep dive into data with our rabbit hole of the week. Baseball's trade deadline is normally july thirty first. But this year it came a day early. Maybe that's why the colorado rockies did nothing. They thought they had more time for the rest of the league. It was a pretty active deadline on the buyer side. The dodgers picked up max scherzer and trade turner. The giants landed kris bryant. And the yankees up. There already big lineup with joey gallo and anthony rizzo on the seller side. My minnesota twins look unrecognizable. The nationals appear to be suffering through their own personal version of the thanos snap and the chicago cubs. Basically exiled there 2016 world series champions which neil foresaw just a couple of weeks ago on. Espn's baseball the night bus are only took this opportunity to consider how this trade deadline shapes the legacy of that curse breaking cubs. Team is clear. There's gonna be tons of two thousand sixteen cubs reunions in years to come. You're going to have chris. Bryant probably thrown at first bitches. Anthony rizzo like the last out of the sixteen world series. You do wonder how they're gonna feel about their legacy. I think perfect historical cop. The nineteen eighty-six mets a team. That was beloved in new york won one championship and then the question that sorta hung over was why not more. I do think for anthony. Rizzo chris bryan. It's going to really benefit them. It changes scenery to go to a different place because this seemed to weigh on the whole team. Now i did jeff. This take was picked specifically for this is are. We sure it wasn't a me. Are you buster only. Yeah that is the question now. I mean this deadline really does represent the dismantling of the cubs. What advice can you give them. As a as a fan of the nineteen eighty six mets. Well i mean it's interesting if you take away the the fact that i'm sure that two thousand sixteen cubs team did less cocaine phetamine and destroyed fewer airplanes and got into fewer Bar fights they are pretty similar. Lead comp I think you know part of me wants to say you could say this almost about like any team. Except for that yankees. Like jeter pettitte bernie williams team. That seem to win enough. A lot of teams that had like a great core and only one one. It's hard to win titles. It just doesn't happen very often. I mean you look look back at those braves teams of the nineties when they had maddox glavin and and all those in smoltz and all the great pitching the only won one title also. It does happen a lot. But that being said yeah. I think the the cops are similar. Eighty six minutes. You just go you know. Go down the years and eighty five. They had ninety eight wins. Didn't make the playoffs Probably need a wildcard back then of some kind nineteen eighty six hundred and eight wins won the world series. Eighty seven ninety two wins no playoffs eighty eight hundred wins lost to the dodgers in the nfc s and then the that was kind. Ed you look at the cubs. Two thousand fifteen ninety seven wins lost the mets and the us two thousand sixteen. One hundred and three wins won the world series. Two thousand seventeen ninety two wins lost to the dodgers and the ansi us and then twenty eighteen ninety five wins lost the rockies and the wildcard i mean those are great that's a great four-year stretch with a solid exciting core. I think you know the way the mets had strawberry good in and then this kind of they actually were more of like Put together a team. Because you know carter and hernandez guys were traded for or acquired whereas the cubs were mostly except for. You know ben zobrist. And i guess john lester auroras was on that team when they won but you know besides for that they really were all their core and to win that much. It's tough. i think they probably could have one more but at the same time it. It also kind of makes sense. Like i think the aggressive rebuild at least in this case you know with expiring contracts in rizzo and brian. What are you gonna do resign. Those guys so they're they're on the team deep into their thirties. I think we've talked enough about how that's probably not a great idea and current baseball. Unless you're the san francisco giants where you know. The age doesn't matter raise over there in a tough spot. But i think you in a position where you don't. You're gonna win this year. You don't think you have enough this year. Which is certainly seemed to be in that position. This is kind of to me the shrewd move but yeah. It's tough to see. I think it's interesting that they're it's the dismantling happened now. you know they. They didn't make the playoffs in two thousand nineteen. They only one eighty four games. You know the the the dynasty idea was really over by that point and then it took a couple more years for them to really you know for them to really fall apart. This year even looked for a hot second like they might be buyers at the trade deadline. Which you know especially the beginning of your young great if they had one of lost in the first week of july or whatever you know this might be a completely different scenario. And that's how quickly things change in baseball From one season to next as a fan of a team that just you know. It is also rebuilding completely. It's hard as a fan. And i ensure i know i know a lot of distraught cubs fans who really are gonna miss. Rizzo bryant and and by. I mean unbiased. Everybody i it's. It's a tough situation for sure. But this is kind the reality of baseball. And so you have to ask you why. You're team to rebuild. You don't want your team to just sit and you know live on the memory of five years ago. So and then we've seen these teams kinda take these half-measures these kind of quasi rebuild like the phillies come to mind where they always kind of lake somewhere in between rebuilding and loading up. And i think they are right now. And and i don't know if that's the best approach While i do think like the phillies as smart this year. Frankly because i think the mets are pretty vulnerable of first place team. As i've said numerous times and i don't think i'm just being pessimistic. I don't i think sometimes it's it might be better just to be a little more aggressive with it and it's really you know. Get rid of all the the big money you have to pay especially when the team is willing to part with significant prospects. Who are who are close to major league ready. Which in a lot of cases some of these traits. That certainly applies. Yeah it's such a crapshoot when you're when you're dealing with prospects you just never know and i think that's what's frustrating as a fan. It's like i'm losing a player. I really like and i know can perform and like okay. These guys will be good. Who knows wait. Yeah exactly. that's that's fun. I don't know this. This trade deadline was was very active. Lots and lots of players moving. I saw it like ten. Allstars are now with a different team. Which is the some astronomical number. What what do you think made this trade deadline so active. Why were teams really going out and getting guys. Well i think a coblence of a few different things i think for one just having the nationals and the cubs who are loaded with talent willing to to have a fire sale in the middle of the season that almost as enough if you if you think of it think about if you take away. Rizzo brian Shirts or turner all the big names. schwarzer all the big names from those two teams. Then it kinda looks like a more normal trade deadline. So i think having those two teams two teams that have won the world series. You know within five years willing to give it of everyone that's gonna sort of Obviously changed the landscape of the deadline. I also thank you have a team. The dodgers that's willing to just blow through the luxury threshold. Just spend whatever they want and get whatever they won and then have all these teams like the padres And the giants who are in the dodgers division under pressure to kind of keep up with the what the dodgers are doing. That's going to sort of create a little bit of a feeding frenzy. But i think there's other factors too. I think the fact that last year was such a stranger. We didn't really have a proper trade deadline. Made this kind of a double trade deadline because some of these some of these guys in an enormous season a year ago probably would have been traded. So so i think it's a number of factors. I think there's also just a lot of teams that you know because the number of playoff spots you know. And i think we speculated on on this a little bit and i think neil ultimately was right that you know even teams that are pretty sure of their playoff spots. Doesn't mean they're going to stand pat They don't wanna be like one and done in a in a wildcard or anything like that. They wanna they wanna go deeper the playoffs so i think a lot of the sort second tier of elite teams were were really incentivize to go out there and make their teams even better. Yeah which which trade at the deadline was. Your was the best. Do you think in your mind. Did the most for for the team acquiring the players. You're not gonna like to hear this. But i actually think the twin what. The twins got for burritos to the blue jays. I i don't know how you feel about him. A pitcher to me he he. He looks more like an innings. Eater then ace and to get to top the like look. They got a better hall than than washington. God for sure sir. I mean to. It seemed like a really smart move to get rid of a kind of second starter to get that much back for for him. So that part of me is saying that to make you feel better. sarah thanks. I really liked him. I like him to yeah. He was very frustrating because he it seemed like he should be. He never really made that. Next jump Which you know you you don't necessarily have to accept if you're as of the staff it really it's a it's unfortunate So i think he's in a position where he can and make toronto better. And i think you're right. Though the the what they got in return for him was was quite good. Although again we don't know for sure won't know a little while but he's also not a rental. He is another year so it makes sense for the blue jays who might yeah quite have enough this year but at least they'll they'll be in good position next year as well 'cause they're so young anyway I also really liked to kris. Bryant move for the giants. I was happy. The giants did something. Because you know. I'm pulling for them this year for some reason. I think it's a good story. And i really don't want the dodgers well from los angeles. I can say this. No one cares now. Here's the and the dodgers moves are interesting too. Because they really are shook that the giants are doing so well. So it's like okay. We're gonna just going to get everybody anybody anybody left. Come here come to la then another unique thing about this year. Two of the bigger spenders. The mets and the dodgers assures kind of replacing bauer. Who's now gone and definitely. They probably wouldn't make that movement. They had bauer Which was you know. The reason they went out and got bauer to get another as they. They can't have enough aces now. Now and the mets were caught a bias to replace lindores. Who's now out for a long period of time so that in some ways was the rich and newly rich teams replacing guys they had already gone on acquired in the previous offseason. Yeah it is funny that like there's only so many i mean like the dodgers are trying to win are they're trying to repeat. Repeat so you're gonna take any edge. They can obviously at like a player. Like sherzer is just one of their aces. Now as like which is wild. But you know it's interesting. How much has impact can be on that team vs on literally any other team. You got to kind of build a team for a best of seven series or yeah even shorter and to have you know bueller shirts or kershaw. They kinda looks great. And that's sort of you know. That's why i think like one of the teams. That had the worst deadlines as the boston. red sox. Because you know they didn't really do anything. So for hansel robles to address their pitching an weighty thing i mean maybe chris sale comes back but who who are they going to run out there in the playoffs like it's definitely a disadvantage in that former. Yeah the padres too. You would have liked to see some more from them but there's also like only so many huge moves that could be made in their defense. They were actively trying to get. The padres were team. That made a lot of their big moves like the matt's Prior to the season so that kinda that kinda already spent a lot of their chips going into this so there's only so much they could do and obviously getting serves or within a kuban didn't happen. Yeah i did want to talk about the the team. I shaded In my intro which was the rockies. What what was the deal with. I don't know it doesn't make sense. I honestly it's one of the more perplexing things of seen front office do if you have a guy who you know is going to be gone next year anyway. I remember when the mets didn't trade. Jose reyes who was winning the batting title that year at the deadline when he had on the last year of his deal and it was just kinda like oh great we get to hold onto him on this bad team. Oh and he's gone and we don't get anything for him. Why and you know even if you wanna hold onto story trevor story why. Not trade grey trade some of the pitch and some of the relievers. They had like it didn't make any sense. I don't really know what they're doing. It all yeah it really it. Just i mean look. There are lots of different ways to build a baseball team. And you know. Some of them are more painful than others This doesn't seem to be any strategy. Which i know can't be true but like if you you have no chance but you have trade chips why you're trying to make yourself better for the future. You're just going to be in this position over and over and over if you're not even try. This is worse than taking. I think your athlete building. This doesn't make sense in. I know colorado colorado's arty kind of behind the eight ball because it's difficult place to build a team. You're never going to entice you know a really top tier pitching talent to go there in the air and you also have these hitters putting these big numbers which even though there are inflated. They still seem to like be enticing for other teams. So it's hard to hold onto that some of these guys and yet it doesn't make sense. I mean i think maybe the psychological impact of what's going on in washington. What's going on in chicago. Minnesota's with certain extent of trading away all your starves tough for certain teams and in their case. It just didn't wanna do it After losing granado in the last offseason. So i i don't know having that's no reason to do it i'm sure rockies fans smart rocky fans are not happy with it so i'm not really sure they're angle there. I don't think trevor story was really sure. No he's definitely not have here. He was the gave he was gonna get to go play for a contender. And now it's like no. I mean if the guy look actively appears to not want to be there gathering get sued form. Is this like a parenting move like you're not gonna we're not trading you until your attitude improves your your. Go go to your room and in this case your room as field. Yeah i don't know it was such a weird thing again. I get i get i get as a fan not wanting to lose your stars but as a fan i also want. I want my team to be better next year. At least You guys held onto buxton. I mean there's some hope there. I mean yeah it's kind of like the nationals. Hold on one soda. It's like okay. Well just give us a couple of years. Yeah you know it's funny. I was like this is. This makes no sense for me to be devastated by the loss of nelson cruz. He is five hundred years old. He's not gonna play that much longer. He i mean. Is this less season very possibly. I mean he might come back next year. But like but i was devastated. That's like like it would make no sense for them to keep him for this crappy of a year. But i still was very sad to see him go. Luckily he's on my team. So i i still get. He still my team. That's what matters all right. Well i think we can take a break from baseball for it now. In a moment we'll come back to talk about the olympics. But first hot take down brought to you this week by draft kings. Ufc two sixty five. Is this weekend every punch kick and knockout means so much more with dr king's lineup. On the line and for this weekend's fight draft kings is offering all customers a shot and millions of dollars total prizes. If you haven't tried it yet. Fantasy emma is easy to play. Just pick six fighters stay under the salary cap and pilot points for advances. Take downs and more plus. Don't forget about professional baseball games in tokyo. Dr king's has even more money up for grabs throughout the week. Dr king's is safe secure and reliable. 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Ten and several articles on fivethirtyeight dot com. How's it going to bora it's going. It's going great I guess what time it is. What is i'm anymore. Who can say yes at morning is at night. I don't know so. Let's start by talking about about simone and her her return this morning. Her win on balance. Beam i mean it was not the gold medal but i think the bronze is i. Don't think it really even matters what that she won a medal or not but i think feels like she'll be pretty happy with bronze. She seemed really happy. That the bronze and i think we're all really happy for her. I know i've never been so nervous watching. Beam routine especially by simone who typically hit. So you're to your loosely at ease when you're watching her and this was just the most nerve wracking experience that i've had in a long time watching gymnastics now. She she altered her routine A little bit really just dismount right. The rest of it was was what she typically does. Yeah so typically she does to back handsprings into a full twisting double back but as everyone knows she's been dealing with like the twisties getting lost in the air on her flips in her twist so she reverted to in oldest. Now that i don't know. I don't know how many years it's been. Since she did a straight double pike. No twist but she went back to that dismount And no twists and it so she wasn't gonna get lost and hit a beautifully and that was a change in the difficulty score by a little bit. She had a six point five difficulty on her qualifying beam and this one was six point one so it did lower her start value a little bit. I think there were some people who thought her her routine was beautiful. Why doesn't she get the goal. But it wasn't as difficult yet. It wasn't as difficult and she didn't miss a connection in the routine self so i'm off the top of my head. Not exactly sure how much she lost due to change in smell but she also lost a little star value for breaking connection and the routine and also in terms of even before. All of this worship withdrew and this whole thing started to happen. The chinese Chen chen had the highest value. Coming in to the competition is so if she had hit simona hit even even before all the changes were made. I still think that gonna have come out ahead and her yet. Her routine was gorgeous today. To yeah china. China brought like really good beamers really really good be mercy more than they maybe more than they need. Dad's trouble odds of other On the other apparatus oh it was nice to see them really hit on these routines. Yeah they did so beautifully in qualifications but they just had a terrible team finals and then just haven't really performed up to their potential so it was really exciting to see them head on this event where they just looked amazing and qualifications so back to simone and just just just this whole week for her. You know her. Her decision to withdraw was met with you. Know some negative responses that you would expect you know. You're never gonna expect pierce morgan to root for the athlete. Obviously but there was a lot of support for her from the gymnastics community and beyond. What did you take away from the reactions. In first of all it was very heartening. I know that there were some terrible white man. Hugh had opinions about did. But you know because that those aside 'cause they're always going to have those opinions. But i think you know most the reaction was pretty positive and gymnasts understood what she was going through at a lead to really interesting conversation about you. Know the twisties which is something that you know gymnastic coaches familiar with but obviously the wider population didn't know anything about this phenomenon. Which is no sort of kim to the yips and like baseball and and just also like all really lights you discussion of the risks of the sport which i think we all kind of know but we don't think about that much you know when they go up in the air and they land safely almost all the time that we watch. You don't really know like how risky the sport is. And and i think you know jimmy like saw that the greatest of all time experiences. The twisties she said in her stories is was wasn't the first time that this has happened to her just happened in the worst possible. Time during a bags you know and it takes time to work through it so she just didn't have that luxury of time to fix it. It was amazing to hear all of these other gymnasts former gymnasts In particular talking about their experiences with it to nausea lucan brought it up on the nbc broadcast which i think is useful to hear that other that so many people have gone through the same thing in that we do. Forget how hard it is and how dangerous it is when it looks so easy. I mean obviously doesn't look easy for me to do but it looks like they're doing it so easily and it is not easy. Yeah i think you know. One of the things that happens in gymnastics is that the job is to make it. Look easy and it's almost like to hide the effort high work that goes into it and and so every once in a while someone makes a mistake falls and she had this momentary glimpse into how difficult it is. But then it's very easy to forget when people are hitting so it was really really useful for this conversation to happen especially at a time. When the entire world is focused on gymnastics at you know in addition to just be a former high level gymnasts like many of whom have spoken out in support of simone and talked about their own experiences with mental blocks. I've even seen like people. I know who maybe didn't do gymnastics at the highest level. Talk about publicly how you know for years. They felt so much shame that they couldn't work through these blocks and they didn't realize like how widespread it was and how normal it was and how really there's nothing to be ashamed of there. You know it's just this happens in some cases you can work through it but it's not like a. It's because you're not working hard enough. You're not disciplined enough and you don't want it badly enough. We tell resale these stories about like. Oh she hits because she wants it more than the person falls met. Yeah yeah and you almost think maybe maybe it will help people to get through them when they're don't feel quite so alone when it's not so isolating and they put even more pressure on themselves. If simone biles has dealt with this i can deal with us. You know me. I think there is something to that where people feel like. They're in it together a little bit. Yeah i really. Yeah i really do think. That's what's happened. Said i've seen a former gymnasts may be neither notable names. Talk about like how they wish they had known. And how they wish their coaches had treated them differently. And just you know step back and looked at it as a problem to be solved. Because it's happens not as a problem with them you know. That's not something wrong with them. Just this happens. Sometimes the sport there's a process for fifty addressing it and we're just going to have to tackle it that way. yeah absolutely. let's let's talk about another thing where gymnasts are very united right now and that's Worm up before the event finals. So one touch warm-ups were all for all in the conversation over the weekend. A lot of people were blaming the lack of warm warm up for jade kerry stumble on vault suny lease miss connection on bars in those apparatus finals. How much do you think that warm up matters. It's hard to say how much to how much you can attribute individual errors to the lack of on touch right because you know. There's a lot of things that go into an ad you know. Someone likes lee and someone like jay carry. They've been at world. Championships competed and apparatus finals. So this is certainly not there. I experienced lack of one touch but it is their first olympic games and the competition is and it just the end of the week. It's exhausting jake. Harry was thrown into the all around final for the first time because of simone's withdrawal. So that was like more. You know just more effort more energy than she had initially planned to plan to expend. So there's dad there's exhaustion both mental and physical exertion factor. So it's yet so it's hard to say okay this mistake because of one touch but i think you could take a step back and say you know like hey all of these. Journalists are telling us that they be needed to prepare the need to stay warm feel confident. Any of the conversation around simone has opened up how dangerous the sport is so if the gymnasts are all united together and seeing we really need one touch reinstated for the apparatus finals. Then maybe this is something we need to consider very seriously. Yeah absolutely i mean on the one hand you have all these gymnasts saying this is what we want regardless of outcome and then on the other hand you have fake saying well. Tv which is especially hard to take when everything is edited tape delayed and really none of that matters. We wouldn't have to see the warm ups in this context if they didn't want to it. Yeah it's hard to really understand that thinking. Especially i think watching you know. I didn't watch a lot of the nbc primetime broadcast. Because i got up early in the morning and like had to write stories you you. You had some deadlines me ever so. I didn't see all the broadcast. But you were incredibly edited and you know even in the vault final. They even show the bronze-medallists they like left the person place third. He won a historic bronze-medal. For you know. South korea twenty five years after father won a silver medal in atlanta on the same event. Yeah and and he also did the hardest bolts in the final and so it was the most spectacular piece of gymnastics and they didn't show it. So yeah. I taking their arguments about tv. What tv wants with a grain of salt. You know it's not like the tv broadcasts have been excellent well right and they have control over them already like they can show what they wanna show already. That doesn't really. They obviously are showing what they wanna show already. So it really doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah and i think people wanna see more gymnastics. I mean olympics. Everyone even people who don't pay attention to sport like i do year round. They are interested. They want to learn more and worms could be an opportunity to really teach people more about gymnastics and could see what goes on to concede the sort of preparation. It's really interesting to go to a competition live versus watching tv. And you're kind of seeing you know the backstage a little bit at the same time as you're seeing the stage and i think that's also kind of knee and the commentators who are typical metals themselves can talk about what what we're seeing in the warm ups maybe someone falls. It can add a little suspense. They fall in the warm ups. Will they hit and competition. So there's all these ways in which could be exciting and interesting to the viewer instead of and they just look at in like well. We can't show this. I added at all. Yeah absolutely it really doesn't make any sense. One of the really heartwarming. Things during the competition was how supportive gymnasts were of each other particularly the americans and the russians. I'm sorry i thought they were enemy. What's happening here is finally over. I mean if you look at like boomer. Twitter isn't don't look at boomer twitter right. i mean. I mean it's been over for quite some time. This camaraderie is not new. It's just really been front and center at this olympics. In a way that don't think it has been before but yet we've known if you follow you've known for years about how the different miss from all around the world follow each other pretty supportive of one another and it was really lovely to see it front and center and so now everyone can see it and hopefully will stop framing the competitions and his way of like cold east versus west russia versus the united states. You know. I saw how genuinely happy the americans were when the russians were won their first team. Gold ever as as rush. I guess it's not. It's was russian olympic committee. Rosy right i mean i guess versus. We're pretending we're suppose you know. Yeah that that's the thing. It's sort of like legal fiction on that. Russia has won. Its first team olympic gold medal. Ever last time they won they were still there was a unified team but it was basically the soviet eating because it was still drawn from all the republics. The jets the various gymnast who competed this is a really historic moment for them and the americans happy they have three team gold medals themselves in the past twenty five years since his last habit or twenty or thirty years. So i don't know and angelina. Melnikova is also was in a series on olympic channel with morgan. Heard and jenny lee and so they've just been interacting with one another a lot. You know in I spoke to kathy johnson via dmz twitter and she spoke about just how much that in their her day. She competed through the seventies through the eighties. She really wanted to get to know the soviets and they try but the you know the language barriers geographic eyars. Obviously he was much more difficult even still. She had some really lovely interactions with the soviet to very much respected. Her and her gymnastics. I really like that. I mean that seems like what the olympics should be about learning from each other supporting each other. It's not a zero-sum game yes there are awards give it. There are metals but everyone wanting everyone to do their best and supporting them in doing that. It's so much better than like rooting for someone to fall. That's a terrible way to go into watching anything. Or or i assume competing. Yeah now and it's especially striking you know given time kathy competed. This was like a proxy proxy battleground for the cold war and so it was really important. Like there's a lot invested. In particularly in sports like gymnastics because eastern bloc countries were seen as excelling in gymnastics. It was very important for the united states to to win or to try to win and win some medals. So it's really great in that way to see that even in the midst of all of that like they were focused on the gymnastics and respected each other for their performances. Absolutely so the piece you wrote for us about the developmental timeline in gymnastics. That really changed the way. I look at the sport. I feel like there were so many threads like that running through these games development mental health. Athlete safety sportsmanship. Do you think the tokyo olympics will end up. Changing what the public thinks about gymnastics is stay because you know you have the swirling gymnastics. You have these moments where everyone is talking about it. Everyone has an opinion. I get text messages from people. Who like i haven't heard brahmin several years asking me questions is like. Oh you remember exists great. I'm happy to answer that. And then just sort of quickly so it's really hard to say at this point. I think you know time will tell what sort of impact this has. I think we are seeing something of a change you know. During the pandemic is the athlete activism. We've seen in college. Athletes obviously people trying to challenge rule fifty at the olympics or talking about challenging fifty. Someone like simone standing up for herself in not just at the olympics In the last few years she's been very vocal about usa gymnastics and how they enabled for abuse or sexual abuse. So i think there's a lot of things happening at the a lot of things sort of culminated here but it will take some time to see what comes of it. Especially after the spotlight of the olympics goes away. And we'll see what happens then and you know and also having someone like simone in the sport is like one of the most famous athletes on the planet period regardless of sport regardless of gender and gymnastics really may be. Hasn't had that baby since nadia if we've ever had it and she's obviously so much more accessible than nadia wasn't at the seventy s so it's a really interesting time for genetics specifically but i think sports in general as abby sort of figure out how to leverage their their labor power. Yeah absolutely i mean. We'll see that we'll see that with college sports in general but also in gymnastics. You know it's exciting to know that you know jake. Carey can finally go to oregon state. Sudi leave and go to auburn. They can make money off of their gold medals now which is kind of amazing it was truly insane when you think about like the choices at someone like jordan. Weaver made in had to make Late twenty eleven when she was just like fifteen or sixteen years old during weaver's a twenty eleven world champion was a favorite to win the olympics in two thousand twelve and she had to make a decision does she take her scholarship to ucla. Or does she go pro and pursue these opportunities during the very limited period of time. The when they will be available to her and and she went pro which i think is a smart move but she did lose a lot and she didn't get a chance to compete as a college gymnasts and she ends up becoming team manager. Ucla moving matt's really really becomes part of the team but it was also a little bit sad because she clearly had more gymnastics left in her. She such an immensely talented athlete and her career definitely didn't have to be over when it was over. And so it's really great. Now that gymnast lake sunni and jade can really try both in c. You know it comes of it for them. And they don't have to be made like they don't have to make false choice really. Yeah i mean. I think that's it's good for college gymnastics to there. It seems like college. Gymnastics has in popularity over the past few years. And there's there's more chance for for that sport to really keep the focus on gymnastics during the you know the non-olympic years And people keep people interested and then we have an olympics. In three years three years we get worse three years time. I'm not going to be done like recouping. My law sleep in paris from this past week. I think i think you're right. Well i hope that you get some rest here over the next couple of weeks. Now that the the gymnastics is over at the olympics are always are almost over but it is great to talk to you for. Thank you for your insights into the sport. Thanks so much for having me. Let's take a break and we'll be back in just a moment for our rabbit hole of the week at five thirty eight. We often find ourselves falling down various rabbit holes of data some lead to stories some. Don't we end each week. Show with one of those dissents. The hot take down rabbit hole of the week. So i'm obviously going to talk about the olympics. The olympics are consuming every waking moment for me right now this rabbit hole is actually adjacent to a rabbit hole. I went down in two thousand. Nineteen which just shows the depth and consistency. My love the olympics talked about records in the three big sports. Track swimming and gymnastics and swimming. The suits have changed dramatically over the years. Making it really. Hard to compare eras gymnastics has a completely different point system than it did. Fifteen years ago with the end of the perfect ten and even since then skills can be valued differently in different olympic cycles. So it's hard to compare even scores from the same gymnast over different. Quads track. has its own complications. Advancements in in both shoes and the track itself can definitely have effect and we seem to be seen some of that in tokyo. The track is very bouncy apparently which seems more fun at the very least but still track is probably the most consistent among the big three sports. And that's one reason. I think it's so cool to see runners getting consistently faster and continuing to break records during that twenty nineteen rabbit hole. I talked about two world records in women's track that have stood the test of time. One was the record in the eight hundred meters set by check runner. You're melia crack tocqueville. Lava who finished in one minute and fifty. Three point two eight seconds since she did that in nineteen eighty three. No one else has broken. One fifty four and only one other woman ever broke that mark now does sta eliza ranko of russia who set the olympic record in nineteen eighty at one fifty three forty three south african runner. Caster semenya has gotten closest to those marks during this olympic cycle and she has three of the ten fastest times ever but of course semenya wasn't allowed to compete in this year's games because of arbitrary rules around just astro testing in this year's race held this morning. The winning was one fifty five twenty one run by american gold medalist. Nothing moon so both. The world and olympic records in that race are still safe all these years later but a different old record not so much florence griffith joyner said an olympic record in the one hundred meters at the nineteen eight games in seoul with a ten point. Six to sprint on saturday. Jamaica's elaine thompson. Hurrah broke that record. By just one hundredth of a second as jamaican women's swept the medals full joe's world record though isn't going anywhere earlier in nineteen eighty eight at the. Us olympic trials in indianapolis. She ran an astounding. Ten point four nine seconds in the race. No one has ever come within even a tenth of a second of her time now. The controversy around that time involves wind. The wind was recorded as zero meters per second that day. But there's been a ton of speculation that the wind beater wasn't working right. It was reported elsewhere. As having been a breezy day in indianapolis any wind over two meters per second would meant. The run was considered wind. Aided and not eligible to be a world record. I even found an academic paper that estimated the wind speed based on the other race times that day at at up to seven meters. Per second. Which i think is an excellent use of academics to measure to compare athlete runs and try to figure out. Wind speeds love that but no one knows for sure and even if there was a malfunction was hardly the runners fault the following day with a wind speed properly recorded for sure of one point. Two meters per second flow. Joe ran her second best time ever at at ten point six one which is what thompson. Harare ran on saturday so no matter what else happens. She was very fast without a real wind reading. That record stands probably will stand for awhile since no one has come even remotely close and honestly i kinda like that. Runners right now might have better shoes at a bouncier. Track at flo-jo may have had some wind. These renters have something to shoot for. And they're just gonna keep coming for these records and you love to see it. And i love that flo-jo standstill. I love it. Yeah no it is cool. I mean i. I was actually found myself looking at some of the records. And it's amazing in track. How long you know both men and women. There's occasionally records such just hung around for you know forty years thirty years. He looked like mike powell. Long jump record ninety one. That's still stands and it's our natural inclination is to think That humans are getting bigger faster stronger in that everything will will break but some of these stood the test of time minutes impressive. I i will say not to be total. Debbie downer in a no accusations here obviously well. Actually these are kind of back door accusations. So i have to be careful But you know that the late eighties. There was a lot of like pd's and track. And i've wondered you know. I hate to be that guy. But i wonder how much of that kota benefactor certainly with flo jo. That was speculation. There was speculation but she was tested. A lot sale tattoo was she was in the same thing with carl lewis relation You know obviously marrying jones was different story into stripped of her medals. But yeah so. That's probably not the answer but it is cool to see The at the same time records breaking you know it's not it's not like they're they're all in the eighties you know. We saw the the norwegian guy the last night in the in the hurdles so it is possible. Yeah absolutely beverage was awesome because the american brand of american record in his fastest avenue lost. That's amazing to me. that was. That was eight fast raise wash. It was amazing. Just watching the hurdles in the driving rainstorm. Oh yeah just did not seem safe at all. Yeah during the semifinal heats for the women that you know it was really rating and delilah muhammed just like smooth easy. i'm excited for that final tonight but yeah carson were on norway winning setting that record I did in the two hundred meters. The women ran that this morning and flow. Joe's record does still stand in that as well so she. She's got these records from the eighties. Still and i think that's great for i kinda like that also in terms of the accusations around her and maybe some of that comes from her dying young too. She's not here to defend herself. Yeah but also yeah. I mean i think people sort of connect those those two and that leads to some of the speculation but i think a lot of just has to do with the time. I think so too that it was happening elsewhere. It was easy to paint with a brush that was you saw that in cycling. New assumed like everyone was doping because of lance armstrong. Also everyone was doping but you definitely like faded everybody with that brush. Yeah this morning Elaine thompson hera. Who's having an amazing olympic. She won the two hundred meters but she was point. Two seconds behind behind flow does record which was set in that nineteen eighty eight games in seoul. What a fast. What i wonder i wanna know of that track was bouncy at all i mean the thing is is is you know it does seem like i can't really comprehend it because we've seen so many records you know sort of get an asterix or not count because of the wind. But i'm like for instance factor in that. The guy broke the hurdle record and driving rainstorm. Yeah we don't count weather in that regard right. Yeah i can't believe they make them run in that. It seems dangerous a dangerous. I think i would fall although also let's be honest. Could i even like at any point. Jump over. I'll just go if i took like a high jump approach. I was like if i wasted myself up over it. Maybe hurdles man hurdles are amazing. I i will watch those all day long. All right that will do it for this rabbit hole and for this week's show we'll be back in your feed next tuesday. If you like what you heard please subscribe. You are subscribed please. Rate and review us on your podcast. App helps new people. Discover the show. 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Mt. Rushmore of Athletes Who Would Dominate Any Era

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Mt. Rushmore of Athletes Who Would Dominate Any Era

"Greetings welcome to the Mount Rushmore podcast. My name is Jeff, joined as always by my good friends Richard. Love and Michael outy Richard and Mike elected abate and deliberate the Mount Rushmore or a variety of topics. But this week they have a challenger from the outside is a gentleman who we are grateful that he listened to one episode of the podcast and made a suggestion as a topic The gentleman is Vince Bhagat. Oh, how are you sir? Doing well Huckabee. Jeff real good. Could you please tell us and the audience? What was the topic that you suggested until it's Y, you suggested it. the topic that I suggested to you. Guys was the spirit of Sports Pantheon. The top four. With those should say the mount. Rushmore of athletes who could be successful in any era of their respective sport. That's a really cool topic. What inspired that? I imagine you're just a general sports fan, but was something that kind of spurred on that. Question. Tell you the truth I mean eat when I listened to the controversial Wrestling Angle one I I thought to myself. Wow and I. Know you guys are very verse. Forget specifically. Who was the referee? Who did that a which one of you? There was Richard, Michael but I realized when I listen to. There was one that was missed completely, and it was on an angle where he pulled out the gun on stone cold, and I say that because. Again, all those angles that were discussed for great, but I thought to myself a camp debating without even talking to you guys so. of in spirit of what was talked about I was like what what a greater thing to debate is a guy in sports and That was only validated a day after I suggested it to somebody else. You know we're doing. On this podcast, and of course eat, my buddy came under his foreign editor, and I'm like well. What have I done? The, floodgates are open and I'm glad to be part of the though the rush of. Sports Sports talk here and all right cool well. Let's jump right into it. Why don't we have you start out with your first choice of the athlete that? Could Excel in any era of this athletes respect to sport. Okay well I stepped to the four major ones. That you know that we know basketball, baseball, football, hockey and To be frank with you. Best, ball is not my strong point but there's one that specific staff to me. Since he started playing and that's Lebron, James, You know I I don't think I've ever. Me personally have ever A. Bore witness to an athlete where maybe tiger woods, because what was expected that he was going to be the greatest. but Lebron James I remember. He came to where I grew up in New Jersey came to attack writing to play their high school team. And my buddy Tony He goes and says hey. I'm a real good, my son. We're going to see him. I was hoping the next words out of his mouth where you WANNA come with me but I. I couldn't even have tickets to high school in Magic Net in New Jersey. You know it's not a big deal. And he came back and I thought he saw the second coming, and somebody was telling me, and in regards to basketball yet, probably Too much of a statsky always brother was your to run it through. But just to be brief in one thousand, two hundred and fifty season Games, okay at the age of thirty five Lebron. James is third all time on pointless behind. Carl Malone and Kareem Abdul Jabbar to me. That's something he's going to be achievable tonight into question. Obama big consistency in versatility. In just a some, there's all kinds of find all kinds of numbers. On. Different Arizona she played. His own career HIS FIRST RUN IN CLEVELAND regular. Season Stats twenty seven point eight points per game seven rebounds, seven assists. These are all averages. playoffs pretty much consisted his era, twenty six point nine, seven about seven and a half seven assists six per game on Seven assistant. Rebounds per game, so he's running like a twenty seven seven stat line seven Excuse me. He goes. Back. Lynn does like a twenty six eight eight stat line and back years for seasonal Los Angeles reminded injure the first season. I believe an still going twenty, six, eight, almost nine assist-per-game. I mean we can go on and on about him again on Monday numbers But I look a guy like I. Said who is built, you know essentially to play all five positions some that was brought to my attention by same friend of mine, who said disgusting this. Guy Complaining on the court and he can I. Don't know if he's ever been called the play center. I remember Magic Johnson was at one point. His critic kind of blew my. The. Johnson playing center Yeah eighty-one eighty-one NBA Finals against the game. Right and so I mean I guess you can say he. He actually has played the position, but just when I look at a guy like Lebron or an Kinda like. encapsulating to me, he's a guy who can play all five positions. Just built to last, I could seize Williamson becoming that guy. You know in this next era, so these guys were they come around about every fifteen or twenty years coming in pretty much playoff positions in dominated consistent stat line with the expectation of greatness. So. To Me you put him back in any era. I could see him dominating. The seventies eighties near the Jordan era easily and so I. Guess You guys. I love the idea of. Him, excelling in the nineteen fifties or forties I don't know when when the doctor Naismith the game, but. The idea of tossing. Tossing a leather ball up in a peach basket. Just killing it. Sounds pretty awesome. Was the game. was there any contemporary athlete who could not have handled the rigors of the game in its inception is? There's something about the game as it was. Many years ago and its inception that you think contemporary athlete will be well suited for me and I. My my question is. Can He. Put the ball in the basket. Granny style consistently. For before they start shooting overhand started doing jump shots. Does. He have a set shot, yes. Yeah Kennedy's to stand there and just do one two three underhand then. is in the basket and. After the training table meal of a bowl of Chili and some codeine or something literally. Had half a pack of Marlboros. The the one thing about the. Baseball I'm going to call. The winning! William James on the world. With Lebron you know, he is involved in so many endeavors you know in his Kind of personal business life that that very much hearkens back to a guy that played basketball part time, and then ran a car dealership or also worked at the factory so. In theory, he could have done multiple. Multiple jobs just like the guys did back in the in the fifties and sixties where it was just kind of a part time thing, yeah! Okay, well, that's a great vince. Thank you so much a for suggested topic be getting on our podcast and see coming out strong with that first choice of the King King James so Richard Ben Freddie or Michael Winfield You got to respond in kind. I can go first Michael if that's. Why don't you stay in basketball? At least will stay in the basketball state in my free thrilling here. And I'm I'm going with a Kansas Jayhawk. WHOA one. Of One, that is not Jeff Hawkins. I do not know what your basketball heels are. Is this a wilt? Chamberlain is Mr Wilt. The stilt Mr The stilt big the big dipper. Chamberlain Yeah. He was I think. I think when Michael and I were looking at this topic. We were definitely thinking of players from past generations. Who I think would be able to play in the modern game. And I don't know that there's anyone in basketball. History posts three modern era that is more suited to be able to play in today's game than will chamberlain. He was seven foot, one and two hundred and seventy five pounds, but he moved like a power forward. Could play. Defense could play. Offense could run. They actually had to change basketball laws because of him. In the in college basketball, they made the Dunkin illegal because he was so adept at dunking the basketball that it was almost impossible to stop him. They also had stop him from just throwing the ball at the at the backboard for a free throw, and then just running and grabbing it and throwing it in. Because that was his one flaw was he wasn't a great free. Throw shooter, but I think in today's game. He could still working around that. I mean the man averaged? Thirty points and twenty rebounds. He was the only player in NBA history to do that. and. He did that a seven times in his career. In fact, he actually averaged thirty points and twenty rebounds for his entire career. And he knows what else is under, even once him this season. So. I think that. I'm talking that look. If you could sleep with twenty thousand women. In in the in the sixties. Whatever modern day. groupies are throwing at you. If, you'd be serious for a second I've always I always thought that's probably the. Ways the worst thing that happened to wilt Chamberlain's legacy just as a basketball player. Obviously, legacy is other things. That's different. But unfortunately was soon as I mentioned Wilt Chamberlain. Some you guys listening out their new I. WAS GONNA make a? He had flexible twenty thousand women jokes. And I think it just takes away from what A. Amazing athlete he was and how much he was. Just different than the other basketball players of his era, his his athletic ability for his size for something that we just had never seen from big men before, so he absolutely could go against you know whatever your? Bader. Day, center. WanNa compare him against today he would have been. Would have been dominant. That's cool. Cool choice. not just because I'm a rock Jayhawk a you. Alumnus It does seem like we'll to. Himself did kind of bridge the old game in the new Gamer kind of image of modernity. The the contemporary athlete emerging. And almost like somebody who was already in the NBA, even in the college game felt felt like yeah. In the sixties, you watch some of those old game films of him in the sixties. It just looks like a player from a different era. Looks like somebody from like the eighties got dropped in. Yeah to sixty game in the players from the sixties have no fucking idea how to cope It's just an Australian to deal with them, yeah! ALL RIGHT VINCE! What is your second choice sir? All My dad's. The, her giants Fan, and so the idea of suggesting they Lewis is the greatest you know suggesting giving your dog a salad dinner, so it didn't go over too well, initially but He respected where it came from. It just caused me about eight minutes in my life. Listening to him talk of the greatness of Lawrence. Taylor, and I. Love You, Dad, but you know. But anyway, as far as as I was getting to the stats just A. Host Twenty eight career Games on the two thousand fifty tackles at forty one point, four and five sacks, nineteen fours from bulls, nineteen fumble recoveries, thirty one interceptions and a stat that always gets me as lacquer pass deflections, one hundred nineteen. He played the idea of a traditional linebacker. Tight end. I should say before you know like. When grant came in I was like what twenty ten before that guys came in. Tight ends that the way that titus would become, but but ultimately a traditional Middle Linebacker, and to me the thing that always captured me about his Iowa play was he was just a clean tackler. I say clean not so much when he would you know Ripa Guy's head off. You know playing I. Remember his ammo was. I think it was against a guy in San. Francisco, where might have been Tampa where he tackles the guy and goes You can't stop me a machine jerk and I think of that moment on as a human being I was just the idea of playing him. would be you know like if you were going to get drafted in the NFL team going to? Disincentive bengals like Oh God I got play Louis twice a year you know. Just at that sort of that sort of ideology in granted Lawrence Taylor, carry that in spirits author about Louis I get I. Mean just a few and I. Don't know how far you guys have watched football. Necessarily I assume I know Jeff. You've talked about not being sports guy, but but to give you perspective if you look but Darren. SPROLES Ray Lewis It was a four thousand two week three of the twenty. Twenty ten or something like season or twenty, two thousand nine season where he? To. SPROLES gets the ball and Ray. Lewis Jackson up the middle clean shot. And the keynote keynote interceptions is career where you know. Eddie George catches the ball on the flat, and he just essentially steals it from running back, and that cements their trip to Super Bowl thirty five. And granted other players other highlights too, but the main the main fixed point that I feel that Ray Lewis would allow. Ray Lewis to succeed in any errors that he pleaded traditional. Three former Linebacker, and just his style of tackling his ability to go side the sideline to sideline and play the game that way. Especially how the game is played now with more much more than space up the middle. Almost gave him free rein versus other will say you might say a pass rusher. You know with way penalties or call now especially on quarterbacks you. There is not as much Lee a leeway. Wiggle Room. You know sometimes you see causing you. Just create your head. You're like Oh. My God I can't believe the rest call there. Again my perspective on. Who I feel is would fit in any era of football so. Hey cool choice, gentleman. Do you have any response? Yeah, no, I like this pick I think the the Lawrence Taylor versus Ray Lewis Debate is is a very valid one. I certainly I think physically. Lawrence Taylor would have been able to play in this era. There's no question about that. All the physical attributes are there. Know is there a need for a linebacker? He kind of lines up as a as a down lineman. Maybe, not as much in today's areas, they. There is for Middle Linebacker. And also also Ray Lewis would murder somebody in any era? Let's let's keep that in mind. Is. Mean I'm sorry. Be An accomplice to murder okay. Alleged alleged. Guys let us know your second choice. Our second choice is when I was thinking of this, I was thinking of going backwards mostly like who was a more recent player that could have played You know back in the day and I thought well. How far back do you want to go? So I thought of baseball and I thought who would have been the player that would have dominated in the current era. And then twenty years ago, and then from eighteen ninety s, and then I thought. Randy Johnson a MLB. Pitcher known as big unit because he was six ten and. Kill Birds. Pitching. Lewis I'm like Ray Louis. There's no doubt about this. Yeah, he. You know he went over three hundred games and pitched a perfect game and a no hitter during the world series, MVP, champion and you know had one hundred mile an hour fastball pitch for twenty two years, and like just had like a great mustache, and I figured like it. Who's playing the eighteen ninety s? He would have like a great mustache then to and I think. That was just what you look for. You look for this guy. That was just this massive. Presence that through his fast and heart is anybody, and then maybe also doubled like into freak show in the off season you know in the winter months traveled with the circus. Like. I think he would've fit right in No matter you know deadball era or Present Day and I think he I think he's one of those. Kind of you know. For being so I think he's kind of underrated for being how good he was like I think everyone is so quick to kind of look to see who the most. Current best. Baseball player is that they forget this guy that you know. Pitch for twenty years and was like amazing. For twenty years like it wasn't like he had like you know maybe his last year, he kinda lost some stuff with the giants, but I don't know I, think he's I think he's a guy that would have been. Amazing, no matter literally no matter what year he played a war with her wearing. Knee socks are not. Michael to your point. You talk about like the Lore you know. The Lord of a player like to baseball is A. Conglomeration stories, and in that Lore of Randy. Johnson, grown up back east. We always heard about him didn't see too much. We came to the Yankees but now if you remember the All Star, Game Theory is ninety six probably off, but when he threw against John Crock and almost took it off and. That was a complete accident. They both those each other like no problem and then the next swing. John Kruk. Spin Rooney three, three, seven, twenty, or whatever and he swings and he's just like. Give me the hell out of here. You you know the idea of I mean the idea of going up against Randy Johnson and all star game could be hazardous to your health. Let alone a real game so a very good choice. I agree with the idea of six foot, ten guy with a big mustache, just the idea of going up and going up against him like Oh God I. Guess like wrestling the Legion of doom. You'RE NOT GONNA. Get these guys tonight. Just looked like a big mean son of a bitch to and just. That's just appreciated in baseball. No matter you know whether it's the sixties or the forties or twenties, or you know when they first invented it so. It does seem like a guy who. A A a comic artist could make a good base bulk cartoon. Character like caricature. Yeah! it's funny. You say you say cartoon I just watched. There was easy top documentary on Netflix. Billy Bob Thornton as we'll stop my head, but Billy Bob. Thornton talked about him He's like man. It's kind of like as easy toppled up your neighborhood. You'd be like if you like if bugs bunny show. Baseball and characters like if the bugs bunny correlation could be anybody who probably Johnson I. totally agree with you like you know what's up. Doc and I'M GONNA. Just strike you out and. Can't get you know combination of that and Kowalski get off my woolen. Hundred! Yeah plus he had one hundred mile per hour fastball, plus that one pitch the just luke over and over, so they swung out at three times in the one pitch. It was exactly. I never thought of that. Thank you I forgot. I forgot bugsy play. Baseball could see a sports agent back then thinking I can make a lot of money from the mustache, wax or snuff. Distributors of America with this Guy Sponsoring got agrees. Dine sponsorship for Your Randy. Okay so we are at our halftime, and this is such a fun topic and I'm excited to get to the second half, but what to take this moment to invite. Whoever's ears are receiving this podcast on whatever platform to join us in our social media discussions that happen out on twitter and instagram and facebook others have, and they are currently on this podcast. fitz-pegado reached out and commented and made suggestion, and now he's talking with us, and it's been a lot of fun to actually get in dialogue with some of our listeners in time, so please go out there and suggested topic. If you. Download rate in review and listen to past episodes. You could evaluate them and determine which argument we should have made it. We didn't so. That's another reason to go back and listen to some vast episodes. We really appreciate it and I think with that. We're going to get back into our third round. Of the Mount Rushmore of athletes who could accelerate any ear of the sport with Vince Pagano third choice. Okay? Well thank you, Jeff and again. Thank you for having me. Guys as well the third choice that on that came to be here. was to me was the easiest for me I. Say that with confidence because it's been approved by everybody I've mentioned before guy. So, validations fun! But it was. You might know him he's. He's in Oakland Athletic, but it's not McGuire or Canseco. He's an athletic a Yankee a dodger. Omit I think he played for. The Albuquerque Isotopes Ridley Anderson. Ricky Henderson of the modern baseball. You talk about a character I'm sorry you're GonNa, say something. I was just GonNa. Say the greatest leadoff hitter of all time. Absolutely absolutely I'm a big believer in versatility efficiency on five eight hundred eighty pounds, if I'm lucky. Ungrateful Eighty Dollars. And so the idea of the greatest leadoff hairier history, you know kind of in that range. He wasn't Vegas Guy but he can move. And, I never played ball. the way you know I never played in high school in the, but if I was gonNA play baseball like anybody to me, you know it would be liquor Galveston? One thousand, four hundred six stolen bases. And next in line from there is Lou Brock and Lou Brock had nine hundred thirty eight. I know today's modern baseball game. You know there's not as many steals or steal attempts, you know it's not as big of a thing or using frowned upon but I. Still See guys like Billy Hamilton and other guys try to steal bases onto me rick. Don't don't run out one peer place. Forgot about him and Jose Reyes. So And all those guys album together, but to me the the idea of a guy who take a three to three and two count and turn it into a run. I know there's so many statistics. I'M NOT GONNA. Start rattling off because I don't do well numbers, but I do do well with what I see what I saw growing up because those games were actually televised as games of me. When they play the Yankees when he played other teams, it was amazing I. Mean You know time stopped on my block? You know when Ricky Henderson was on TV. The stats like so many things steals, but also thing. I'm being a guy who played field when I did play I played. You know like readily softball recently. Left? Field you know, it could be a real pain in payment of, but you know with all right handed power hitters, guys WANNA kill it. There's one statistic defensively. That has really popped out at me. was put outs as a leftfielder. The all time leaders Barry Bonds, five thousand two hundred, twenty, five next is Ricky Henderson, five, thousand, two, hundred, and fifteen, and the guy below dining zach week to i. don't know maybe Iraq and. Four thousand, nine, hundred ninety so roughly. A few hundred more and then the next guy is at least four, thousand, four, hundred, forty, two, a massive amounts of separation between Ricky Henderson and whole lot other guys with putouts. So to say, he was fast with the an understatement. Again, you know we can talk about metrics and stuff like that, but some things that always catch me about. Him was just held again in spirit of bugs, bunny cartoon character as kind of war He has some funny quotes. One of the stories was he used to kill everybody playing poker on the road. And he would do that by counting cards. And one of quotes was. I think playing cards given the opportunity to relaxing the game, so I know that I started playing poker late in life Dan. So. One one of the with this where when he got his first place in New York, the Yankees are. Have you heard this story where he goes You know I got I got a new place. I forgot. WHO said it, too, but he goes It's I can see over at the entire state building. As a true story. The. Entire stable thing, but yet I say that because he wasn't always the smartest guy but I disagree. I think he's one of the smartest guys to ever play the game. Because of his efficiency to just get on base and steel, anouilh said it lay off the stats, but though I think it was nineteen ninety in. The there was when he when he had his hundred thirty stolen bases That was that same year. He still based thirty I. think it was up to a certain point like all his first, he had stolen thirty third base, thirty, two or thirty three times. The Minnesota twins team at that point had thirty two stolen bases collectively as a team. Though so yeah, I mean you know again. I disagree I think he's one of the smartest guys that were played a game. One most efficient guys in one of the most versatile guys ever play the game to play the game for twenty five years at a high level from a dodgers and everything in between I think he's probably drop them in any era. He's good to go. Oh! That's great. Yeah, you kind of described him almost as the opposite of Randy Johnson, Dante. A. Strong man at a circus sideshow, but This kind of still the average, average, athletic, very athletic person. He is the screws men that goes in and makes the impressions. The Wax Impressions of the keys take into breaking. into the the the hangman's box and yeah, and then make off with the robbery. Ricky, Henderson wants fell asleep with a nice back on his foot. Wound up getting frostbite and missing three Games Malwa. Continue I. Bring this up because I would have personally loved to see a fifties or forties or whatever era manager after be told to your star fielder has frostbite in can't play. A fly on the wall in that conversation would have been fantastic. My favorite baseball conversation ever probably is Jimmy. Dugan talking to a League of their own when he goes out when he goes Roger Hornsby my parents came down all the way from Michigan Roger, hornsby becoming. Call me a big pile ship and. Like you said I could imagine the conversation with that would have been. Ourika guys boy Vinca some great choices. What do you got for your third? All right, so our third choice and I know Vince, you're. You're sticking with the big four sports. I think one of our picks. At least we're going a little bit off the grid not too far. but we're going with the greatest soccer player. Slash crutchfield wax. Spokesperson of all time and of course I'm talking about Palay. Palay is the official. Go goalscoring record holder he scored in official and unofficial competition, one, thousand, two hundred eighty one goals in one, thousand, three hundred sixty three games, so he basically almost averaged a goal a game. Just ridiculous ridiculous amount of goals he won three World Cups with Brazil and probably would have won fourth and sixty six if he hadn't gotten injured. and. I follow soccer right now. There's the debate between Cristiano, Renaldo and Lionel Messi. WHO's the greatest player their generation? and. It's amazing to me that you've got these two generational talents. And in no point does the conversation even start to go to? Oh, are either of these two better than Palay? because. That's just not a conversation. That's worth having. It's just automatically assumed a Palay is the gold standard for soccer players? And I think it's amazing that he did this in an era when they they didn't have yellow cards and red cards for fouls. If, you've got fouled. It was just all right. You get the ball right there, and let's keep going, and it doesn't matter if you're. Half of your leg got hacked off by. Somebody should not just keep on going. I mean he and he was fouled. There you go on Youtube. There is a video compilation of fouls against Palay and guys are basically literally just kicking him in the Shins as hard as they can, and stomping on him clothes, lining him practically, and just doing all of this whatever physically they could do because he was just two quick into skilled, he was five foot eight, but yet he was still one of the best headers of the ball in the world because he had such incredible hops. Rich Richard I have sorry to interrupt. Quick question for you. Have the rules outside of yellow cars read parts have the rules of the game changed much from. When Palay play to like. To Current? Rules, not this something. This is something that I'm like I'm interested. In 'cause baseball's the same way the rules really haven't changed in. One hundred and fifty years one hundred twenty years. You know aside from adding like game clocks and other nonsense but like. You know when someone can dominate in their. Time, and that was sixty years ago or fifty years ago, and then what it would be like today I think that's that would be interesting to think like I. Guess Everything he would do would translate. I think everything he would do. It absolutely turns like he was far and away the the quickest player of his era, and I'm making a distinction between being fast. You know what you would be able to measure in a forty time versus being quick and I think quickness is something that. I think transcends Ariza more than pure straight line speed does like Ricky Henderson who was kind of quick. Yeah, again fast quick, and he was quick and fast. I think that. In terms of the rules, some of the rules change like I said the yellow cards red cards made a big difference and cutting down on the egregious, just fouling to try to hurt somebody essentially or slow them down. Your sewer now allowed substitutes during the game. You're allowed three substitutes where. You have to play the full ninety minutes every game. So. There's no opportunity for him to play semi minutes the up four to one and the May bring somebody else into. Give him a rest for the final twenty minutes now he was. If you started your out there for ninety minutes, he played ninety minutes every game even when he was hurt very well known for his playing through pain. was there an era of soccer where passing was determined to be statistically? Essential to scoring points. I remember listening to a podcast where they some guy determined that the best way to score was to just pass a lot until you get into i. mean it seems fundamental, but was Palay kind of guy who would just kind of drive it himself into the goal. No, he was somebody who is definitely could drop back into the from being afford to back to the midfield to get the ball and then me passes. To help his teammates out, and that's something with those with those Brazilian teams from the sixties. That went all those World Cups. They were the first team to really. Specialize in this the quote, unquote, beautiful game, versus just lobbing the ball, sixty yards downfield and hoping somebody gets ahead on it or somebody's able to get a foot on it and that kind of. Model kind of. Monitor monotone sort of style of play where everyone just kick the ball as far as they could, and went to go see what they could make something happened. If listed goal so absolutely, I think those Brazilian teams. impaling particular were absolutely influential in what we consider to be modern soccer strategy. I think of him as The, very dynamic charismatic character that I first met in the film victory with Salone and Michael Caine. OPTIMA Michael Cain trying to pretend to be a good soccer player was pretty pretty great, but yeah, they've got. The British guy can be as good of a soccer player as the American stallone. WHO's? Five three trying to play goalie. Pay. All Right! This is passing the ball back to. Vince for your fourth and final selection of athletes who had have been. Outstanding in the sport in an era. Okay thank you guys again in appreciate you guys bringing a but I definitely don't know much about them, so it was good to learn. the fourth one though I have to help different standards Jerry. If you're walk for listening to this you know you love the pick. It! I stick to hockey. I grew up playing the sport on so I. If there's anything I should know, it's knowing hockey. Especially when the era of this particular player played in the nineteen ninety draft he was taken fifth overall. Emily retired. He was the only one left in that class. That will be on your yager right wing from the Czech Republic. As one of my buddies out here, who is a buddy of mine who? I got to know? My Buddy Michael We used to joke around. Call the Czech Republic. You know these are chosen son The NHL has changed so much since I've been alive Errors prior you know if there's any sport I think that has changed and grown enormously. Groningen game has become more. As we see the especially the European influx that has come into the NHL. When that those floodgates opened up? With back in the early eighties. With the red wings in such bringing allowing rush in when Russian players were little come in. Then the game really opened up so Yarmur Yager was taken fifth overall. Ben Pittsburgh Penguins. Ninety just some some stuff about him. career stats wise. He has seven hundred sixty six goals L- hundred, fifty, five, six for six for nine, hundred twenty, one point second behind you Gretzky. Of those goals on one hundred, thirty, five of them are game winning goals so almost ten percent of the goal or roughly eight percent of the goals. He scored game winning fifteen thirty goal seasons for Art Ross, scoring titles, and the list goes on. I can go on and on the thing. That always captured me about him again. That if you're listening, you get more props in this than every. I started working at when it was twelve Jeff surprisingly. I just have been consistent and I remember being in Jin, working out at my dad's showed me to do squats, and I was I was about twelve years old at the time going. Yeah, yeah, whatever and he goes, you know. Who Does it thousand a day. I said who does Yom your Yager. And I thought to myself demand twelve, and if he started doing seven thousand day. I'm about a million in such behind. I got some cash enough to do I don't think club since I. Don't Care How many you've seen. Do Jeff's. Come and so. A lot of players about yager. If you. If you look back until I think it's a who invented what is now modern? Laid the groundwork for what is modern hockey training dry land on stuff that you and I have done. Jeff different kind of training. You'll look into. That is the same kind of that. Yom Yager does when he wants to. I, don't know about you. Guys I had to get up a working more. Got! At twelve thirty, you know, do do a thirty second sprints with thirty five pound vest on me but he does and the running joke that he was every every trainers worst nightmare because the amount of the volume of the way he trained required twenty four seven care. You know and. I had the article, but it was. Essentially some fun stuff where. Most recently using Algorithm for retirement, Florida his trainer He and his trainer would train different. Our Different Times two days when he went game day three days. When there is no game, he would take an eight pound medicine ball and whack against the wall with a hockey. Stick again. That's taking with his hockey. Stick lacking medicine. Why Shoot Hockey Puck I feel ended! On. So things like that the law of all the of all the different training things he would do. And I think all of that compounded into all the things that you can read about and learn about him, but as far as dropping into any era when I think of Bob Your of the guy who originally was gonNA, pick He changed the game as far as the Howard defenseman place. You know the idea of coming into the ice. Not Liking what he sees comes back. Maybe there's a line change meters or Definitely changed the game. The bobby are played ten seasons, two of them on bad legs, and the two of them were kind of sad the Chicago so he didn't have. off injuries. but I think that three years. He played with Oscar. Avenue I, think is the team in the Czech Republic, where pretty much he put up the numbers that would have put him in the record books as the Alzheimer so from age eighteen to forty eight, he was cranking and only two more guys. Above the age of forty five overplayed Gel, game that was Chris Chelios Gordie Howe so to say he's in good company would be an understatement, but again I mean did the groundwork stairs far as the training and his ability to sustain that longevity is why I would pick him as a guy. You could drop any era and play the game a hockey. Let's a cool pick. You guys are Richard. Michael you. Guys Hockey followers fans. Extent. Yeah, do think this. So learning about his, do you think is training? Style came from the Czech. Republic, do you think comes from this kind of very? They're very spartan and very challenging climate or training conditions that one might encounter when they begin in that environment. Obviously, it's he started. You said when he was seven years old. Does he seem like a product of that upbringing and just kind of continued even after he encountered. American hospitality and all that stuff. You Know I. Think Yager I. Think I mean I don't think of someone who is sort of like the East European. No personality type I think he was. In my mind, one of the things I think about with him as he was one of the the first eastern European players come into the NHL and really. Be Be like a popular figure within the sports and someone who was sort of beloved by fans around the sport, and not just by whoever was on their team. Danni Alexander Ovechkin today. and. I look younger and I see it a direct parallel between the two. Yeah? and. I didn't know if you mentioned this or not. triple gold club Stanley Cup ice. Hockey world champions in the middle. That's pretty outstanding. Study Spirit of sergeant. Steer what you're talking about. Richard. The one thing I don't know if you guys know about Yager. Is the IAGO's the guys who have been in different arenas. You see him. If you look them up on Youtube every time you switched to team, there is a running sign where it said okay. Now we need a new friend and guys putting a mullet on guys who come to the ring I. It was the penguins and I think it was the capital's. Rangers and then. I think I'm going to miss the team, but the flyers mid devils. If you're going to play for every eastern team, but the the the the Yami guys weren't sixty with the mullets would be in the crowd. To your to your point, he has you know. He lied the framework for like the guy who came from America in popular became popular here in that intern. Turned whole generation. North American kids onto hockey? Present Company, included. So. Despite the longevity of his career. Did you say? Thirty years. How long did he? Played Twenty twenty years in change. He's when. He is still playing by the way at forty eight in the. Blow on team? Yeah. This is wild, that's. That's that's a guy that hates his personal life. He doesn't want to. He doesn't want to be at home, kids. His kids could do without I think he's got a little bit of gambling challenge in life to probably spray better to stay on the ice okay. Okay cool so guys I don't know one more round to try to catch up to. The excellent choices from our guests Vincent Gano Michael and Richard Woody. Okay I think going back to kind of my my entire thought. Process was this I wanted guy. Or an athlete What's The guy? I'm GONNA and say who played a sport for the sport really hasn't changed much and I guess that's why I interested in richards choice of. Palay and it was. kind of interested in Randy Johnson But I thought of track and field, and I thought of the Olympics and especially like the modern Olympics and Carl Lewis. WAS JUST A. attract star was so. dominant, but dominant with that sort of modern era. Not Quite, flamboyant, but, arrogance. I think a lot of us have watched that. Michael Jordan documentary recently, and he just knew that he was the best and I think Carl Lewis had that same sort of feeling that he knew that he was the best while he was out there. But you know nine Olympic gold medals. Gold medals in the long jump back to back to back in the hundred meter relay and the two hundred meter He was just like this phenomenal athlete that. If you plunk him down into any. Era Of. Running long jump or All the other different track and field events that he participated in, whether is in the first Olympic Games or Any anywhere throughout the years of just being an athlete and runner I think he would have been phenomenal I mean. I was reading about him and. In one, thousand, nine, hundred four, he was drafted by the Bulls. Sameer drafted Michael and also drafted by the. Dallas cowboys in this timoth round, and that just goes to show that people were just willing to like. Take a flyer on, and be like. Hey, maybe he'll COMPLA- for us. Maybe he'll just be this tremendous athlete, and we can plug them in and do something with him. Even though he didn't play basketball, even though he didn't play football, they're just like. Let's just get this incredible athlete on our team. And I think that's just such A. Strange thing that a professional sports team would do, but then when you see. You know how good he was as an athlete I think that speaks to it. Also named sportsman of the century. So. You know that's one hundred years where they found. Sports illustrated considered him. He's maybe maybe the best at his thing for. Of anybody in the last hundred years, Oh yeah, the Olympics from seventy, nine hundred ninety s no, his career spanned from seventy, nine, hundred, ninety, six, one of only three Olympic athletes who won a gold medal in the same individual event in four consecutive Olympic Games. It's amazing a quarter century nearly of being. I thought of like you know Michael Phelps who just feels like. He feels like more. He was like. Kind of of nature born into it whatever his body and trading and everything it seems like the skies to such a one off, but Carl Lewis felt like more of a pure. Athlete all around. You know he survived the whole What was the same who was the Canadian Richard? Ben Johnson. Yeah. He kind of survived that whole Ben Johnson losing the Ben Johnson and then kind of being. kind of vindicated when Ben Johnson was Tested positive for steroids or some. Sort of doping. Although I guess I read that he might have. Dabbled himself, but who knows. It's a really fun. choice although he was born in Alabama, he feels like a very la kind of athlete. There's something very flashing showbiz. Usually I think there's something. Yet Comes out of Just that whole like nineteen eighty-four. Olympics like the La. Kind of codified I think a lot of people's images of. Like famous athletes like Nineteen eighty-four mid eighties in Los Angeles, you know just so. Kind of decadent with. John Williams fanfare and I don't know I think that was a very glamorous time, so I would stand that you think you might might be. Say, H I, guess I. I remember him either being parodied on SNL or being. I think. Eddie. Murphy might've been a comedic scenario about him in stand up routine or something like that so I think his flash and confidence I also remember the first time even hearing the. Concept of positive mental outlook or or positive imaging hearing Carl Lewis. Say I ran the race already in my mind. Each step the race, Iran and one so. The race itself was just APP academic after that because mentally, I had such a positive outlook about. His mental preparedness was. something. He espoused in the. gave credit to. His athletic success and that's that's one of the first times I've ever even heard that concept. In any million much less athletics. No I keep I keep going back and thinking of fences I pick Lebron James and he feels like the only athlete on this list. They could've played every sport. We've been talking about if he is like a person that would have dedicated himself as he did. Basketball I feels like he would have been an amazing football player, or he would have been like an amazing baseball player or an amazing soccer player like. He's the one athlete that feels like. Oh, he could have done literally everything on this list I mean. Can you imagine a six foot eight? Lebron James as a sprinter, our yeah, or whatever just like the fastest in every possible category as long as he had committed to. It seems like he's the only one that was possible for. Rich round. Do have one more question for you. Richard will be. How would you say are Louis Compares to Jesse? Owens, if you laugh, you went that far into the. I. Don't know that's tough. You know I think. I think I think. Personality wise, they probably couldn't be more different. Right complain. But but performance wise and I think. Carl Lewis did it over a period of what from eighty four until you know even before that one thousand nine hundred. Eighty or so yeah, so he. was running. Track events whatever yeah he did. You Know He. He won gold medal in Nineteen Ninety six. In the long jump so I mean his longevity I think is something that the Jesse Owens did not have necessarily. That's another interesting thing about kind of a lot of our choices is they're all long? They've all been players who have played their sport for a longtime Ba Yager who's. Been Hockey for thirty years or wilt. Chamberlain played from the fifties until the seventies. These are all like twenty year plus professionals, I'm sure Lebron's GonNa. Make it that far, and all these people have just like endured and been in their sport for a long time and I think that speaks to the character of air Of the role is sportsman? Is that not only have they dommage in their time, they probably dominate through. Different periods within their time. Whether it was you know for? I don't know how long a particular era of a sport is but Whether, it's ten years. Some of these people have played in two or three different errors of their. Particular Sport and I think that is what is probably the most impressive. They've been able to adapt and change. Hey guys. Schadt. Thank you so much for debating and deliberating the Mount Rushmore of athletes who would have excelled in any era of their sport and. I I want to say that. Even though there's a tradition that the visitors come on the field and sometimes or often win against the home team, it is not a shallow exercise a perfunctory. Exercise! It's something that the visitor has to earn and our buddy. vespas gone shirt earned it. He had some really great choices so. I am going to choose now. The choices that will go up on Mount Rushmore for this I want to start with your yeager because I never heard the name before, and he seems like such a wonderful colorful figure. that. Was Really, really dynamic and really interesting, and almost could go up with the second choice ricky. Henderson. In just kind of outsized persona and interesting personality. But, then as far as a big persona goes, I would love to choose Randy Johnson from Richard Michael. Because? He's such a dynamic character and you know what it's going to be a tie. It's GonNa be a tie because I can't not pick wilt chamberlain because I'm a Jayhawk at heart. And so. Vince! You've come in and tie it against these guys so i. really appreciate you doing. I hate to I. Hate to Corrector your scoring. Jeff but Vince still one his his back. His back in Pixie picked up seven points two or three point so. Oh Hey. Oh, all right when? I scoring chart beforehand, so I have to get a copy of the car. You know maybe framing Henderson frames million dollars. You heard about that. Yeah, you did well with the Russian judges. That was the most important. When he came to track, I felt like Sergeant Schultz like I know nothing. Nothing I appreciate the education on encore loose. Things should be on there as well as the actual Mount Rushmore. For the guy that was the athlete of the century, was it? Yeah yet by foreign that has to go up there on the principal, but again I'm GonNa Principles, but it's your list. Well thanks a lot of begun a really appreciate you a listening be make suggestion and see coming onto the podcast to give your choices for that suggestion, so thanks much. Here's our wrap up. This has been the Mount Rushmore. Show podcast my name's. Richard. I'm, Michael?

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