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Juiced

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Juiced

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A first one is one that applies a small lens through a big story steroids in baseball for years, especially in the nineties steroid use by major leaguers was kind of an open secret, but not one that many players were willing to talk about these players by the way were huge, giant next bulging. Biceps enormous home runs and one of the biggest and most controversial players was Jose Canseco. He was the one that finally decided to break the code of silence and he did so by writing a book. This is the story of how that book came together. And it's also look at whether an important message will ever be heard when it's. Coming from a notoriously unreliable narrator. A quick warning. This episode contains mature language. Now, here's thirty thirties own Andrew, MAMBO with juice. The very first time I had the thought. Of the book juice. When I tell you. Exactly. I remember it. They can always talked about writing a book. But on this day in March two thousand four, something change consider retired from baseball two years earlier, but he was only thirty eight home runs shy of five hundred a magical number that used to guarantee a spot in the hall of fame and he was trying to get back in. I remember going to an open, try for the dodgers two and a half years after his last major league appearance when he hit two fifty, eight with sixteen homers for the White Sox can say, grab his bat and glove and went to trial for the Los Angeles Dodgers today. And there were a lot of people there. The media was there and Lasorda was their timing, the sorta the legendary LA dodgers manager Ken Saco with the number five hundred twenty one on his back signed in around manage six nine by the end of the trial and on their forget what sort of said the media asked him. So tell me Tommy does make the team Lasorda says he didn't make the team. He looked like he was out of shape. I've never been out of shape of my life. So for a a chub little fat troll like Tommy Lasorda who is. You know the worst Humpty Dumpty out of shape pasta more on ever seen the tell the media that I was out of shape that's a slap in the face to an athlete, especially to an athlete who is a former MVP World Series champion and the first player in baseball history to hit forty home runs. Forty and steal forty bases in the same year. The six time. All star had another side at times, comical sick. Head over the wall at times dark. Most going over to the stance here. I don't know what he's doing. I think he's after somebody. Well, I think Jose always had that cartoon figure kind of in him where he probably was more of a WWE actor. Then he was a serious baseball player. Pedro Gomez is a baseball reporter who's followed Jose's career ever since they went to high school together, Jose. Oh, was had an up and down relationship with major league baseball. He felt they loved him when he was hitting home, runs breaking records and taking teams. So the World Series. But as he got older, he felt baseball with shutting out clubs had probably grown tired of all of the other things that come with Jose can say, Oakland Jose, say it was accused of attacking his wife, Jessica early this more under house arrest for violating probation. They can say co has been arrested on suspicion. Victim can shake could be sentenced up to one year in jail. I think a lot of clubs say, well, is worth all the bag. Edge to have him on the roster that probably played a role in the dodgers saying, thanks but no, thanks. Jose felt betrayed because he thought the game still owed him. Something major league baseball was saying Jose. We don't care what you do when I can let you in this game. Again. What I went home. I said, people have to know my story. I am not going to go silently until night. That's not my character. And one of the very few ways back then to get the story out was through writing a book. At that time, Regan books they had pornographers they had celebrities and worst of all they had the politicians. Daniel NIA was in his socio editor, Regan books, a branch of HarperCollins publishing. They specialized incense ational titles like Jenna, Jason's how to make love like a porn star and the infamous OJ Simpson book. If I did it when you walk through the doors, you kinda knew what was happening. You were doing books that were intended to be controversial of force in the publishing world. Regan books was led by its namesake founder, Judith Regan, a bad ass no nonsense publisher who demanded the best from her staff. Once she said good work about something and I still remember I remember where I was standing. Where were you standing. We were standing next to her system pool and she I head run over just before she was going to go out for dinner to show her copy truthfully day. She had read it and called me an illiterate monkey. And then I rewrote it as fast as I could catch before she left, and I gave gave it to her the next draft. She read it and she was good work. And I always remember the good work like that's the one that stuck with me. But Judas Regan wasn't just tough boss. She had come into the publishing world and flip the game. I really credit Judith for having an acquisition style. It's very active. You're out there hunting for the coolest people in any given topic at times. Judas would take that on herself finding stories wherever she saw them and leaving torn out pages from magazine articles around the office. I see that article on my chair and it means get hold of the sky because by two pm, Judith wants to talk to him because that model that she had was meet interesting people. They. Interesting stories. My name is Judas Regan. I am the publisher of Regan books in early two thousand four. Do just got a call. It was from Jose's agent. He was requesting a meeting for his client Jose Consejo had an explosive story about baseball really wasn't John that I was that familiar with and I'm not somebody who knows the minutia of the sports industry. Basil wasn't really Judas thing, but she was willing to meet with Jose met her one time came into the office. I had a conference room next to my office and Jose Canseco walked in and Judah three sitting there with a couple of her sisters. And here was this guy, you know, big guy with muscles. Of course. I'd seen his picture before, and I said, I'm going to be honest with you, Jose. I'm not a sports person, and I think you were in people magazine, and I think you had sex with Madonna or data or something. So I guess she knew more of the individual data, Madonna or whatever hung up Madonna, the baseball player. Judas was interested in Madonna, but she also new hope. Xay was there to talk about something else. So I asked him where he got his muscles and he told me and he started talking about steroids. He told you when he was a young minor league player, he made a promise to his mother on her deathbed. She never seen me play professional baseball and card is on the promised her going to become the best player in the world, but to do that he needed to get faster and stronger. So he went to see an old friend from high school who was a bodybuilder. We were at his house and just, you know, casual conversation kissed on time. You know what happened to my mom and the promise I made her and what can I do? He mentioned Jose. Why don't you use steroids? Don't you try? And you funny because he, he had it right there in his house. So it wasn't a big deal and he just loaded up the needle watching them get it out of the bottle. He biz sit you ready? I said, yeah, he. Injected me, I really didn't feel it that much. He says that that's it. Steroids quickly transformed Jose's physique. He put on fifty pounds of muscle in less than a year and his newly enhanced body help take him from minor league, nobody to major league star, and he started telling me about, you know, kind of behind the scenes and injecting other baseball players in this whole world of of drugs in the baseball community Jose described being in tiny bathroom stalls injecting teammates and showing them how to inject themselves. But with every detail he told Judith and her team. No, never thought to ask why he was spilling baseball secrets again published so many thousands of people. I didn't get that. This was a bitter guy. I really didn't. I felt that that he was hurt, but I didn't feel that he was bitter fucking angry, majorly better. The different, you know, upset doesn't blind. And you angry blinds you. And that's what I was angry. You fat. Fuck Tom Lasorda. You just fucking eat pasta. They looked like Humpty Dumpty. Judas paid Jose for the rights to publish a story, and then it got passed. Daniel nary his boss handed him to folders with stories to go into the production pipeline. One of them, it says Mr. big and it's the memoirs of this guy who has thirteen inch penis. And the other one it says juice and Jose Canseco and he wants to tell all about steroids sports, but Daniel could only choose one to get started with. I was like, jeez, let's see what's going on with this guy's cock. I guess. Mr. big was a book Dudas option after she read an article in Rolling Stone magazine about the complicated life of the man with the world's biggest penis come on. That's a fascinating subject. The only problem was Mr. big, wasn't the happy. Go lucky guy winning life that you would expect. You had this guy who was sort of this mala just that dude, who had the luck or the misfortune of having a huge cock. He became this kind of oddity and people wanted to look at it. You know, they just thought of him as a penis. And the question was, is there book here and you could just tell if if we had done a book, it would have ruined his life halfway through. We were like, all right, I guess we gotta go back and see what this Jose books can do. Regan books was ready to write a book with Jose, but for the book to stand out, they needed something. No one else in baseball had done to this point. They needed Jose to name names. I spoke with Judith and she said, Jose. You've got to put names BA. Because no one's gonna believe this to be true and we won't print it. We won't waste time putting this. I think that he like most authors was reserved and didn't really want to name names and people get very bashful about that and they don't wanna make enemies and they don't wanna hurt. They're buddies, feelings and law sleep nightmares with one little devil on one shoulder names and the other shoulder at the, they'll say, do it did to people, you know your story, the angel saying, no, don't do it. Forgive him forget. But you know what? Little double one because angry major league baseball. So Judith gave the green light and the real work started. I up find a ghostwriter, the man for the job, Steve Kevin. I had to convince my agent that this was a good project for me. He thought that the unsavory aspect with Jose was a reason not to do it. And I said, this is going to be an important book it's worth doing, and I'm the person to. The story. Steve was a sports writer based in Brooklyn, as I watched what was happening in baseball in the mid nineties. When I was a beat writer for the chronicle. I was like a lot of people alarmed clearly a lot of guys were using steroids. He was so alarmed that he wrote an article for the New York Times in the middle of the two thousand season in it. He directly called out baseball for looking the other way when it came to performance enhancing drugs, I really try to get people just to open their eyes. I just felt that it was a huge story that such a large percentage of players in baseball were using steroids, and I felt the general public really had no understanding what was going on right away. Stephen Jose got to work kinda. The first time I went out to California to see him. I had only a weekend with them and I, I wanna get going St. was there to write a book, but Jose wasn't so ready Jose. It was doing everything. He could to make excuses. So I get there. He wants to show me around his ridiculous MC mansion that he had with horrible choices on display everywhere and use looked around. And you thought, does anyone actually live here? Steve kept trying to work. The Jose was avoiding it. So this night when I showed up to talk to him for the book, he of course, wants to go out and a limo and hang out in clubs and maybe try to impress me. I don't know. Hang out with people and then maybe after that, depending what after parties going on, go to the party. I'm just looking around and all this. I don't know, enhanced cleavage and very LA scene, and it seem pretty pointless when they finally got back to the house, it was late. So they agreed to start first thing in the morning. The next day Steve kept trying, but Jose just wasn't interested doing a book is really hard. It's a marathon and to do it. You have to really want to do it and you have to either have a good idea of what you want to say, where you have to have the stamina to hang in there to find out what you wanna say on the second night. Steve finally got Jose to sit down and talk, and the way we did it is we would go upstairs to his bedroom. He had this big canopy bed with satin sheets and he had back issues. He had a lot of back pain. So the only way he got in the. Mood to talk was to lie flat on his sat and she's in his bed. I think in like boxer shorts, we spent a lot of time in person just sitting down like you and I talking hours upon hours upon hours, but I would sit in a chair next to the bed, ask him questions and he would. He would talk, and that was really the heart of the interviews for the book. And for days that was the flow Jose lane in bed and Steve city next to the bed with a tape recorder, furiously. Taking notes Jose started from the top. He told Steve about his mother and the first time he took steroids, and then he told them about nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. When the steroid rumors I began to spread Thomas Boswell, a Washington Post reporter had gone on national TV and called him out. I have heard very well-known ball players in baseball, say casually, talking about steroids. They call them Jose Canseco milkshake. It is absolutely a given in baseball clubhouses that he's the most conspicuous example of a player who made himself. They told Steve how he felt singled out, but he wasn't gonna let Basel's accusations take away from his MVP season. Last ten days you've been all over the media. Tom Boswell, fellow out of Washington has made an accusation 'bout you using steroids other statements that he's he's made are false. I mean, of course, I'm not gonna mitt them usually PD's because they had no proof whatsoever. I never tested positive. PD's Jose told Steve, how's the season went on? The crowds began to boot, and there was one town in particular that really let him have it live from Fenway park in Boston. It's gave one or the American League championship series between the Oakland a.'s and the Boston Red Sox. It's a cool there were playing the playoffs. I'm in right field, and the fans just just saying steroids. So I actually turned around and give a big flex and they went nuts. Crazy. They're all my side applaud because you really wearing attainerd and fans should just want us to knowledge that year Oakland sweat Boston. The went on to lose in the World Series to the LA dodgers the next year they marched back in one. The whole thing they can say was a world champion. Chantey. Fifteen years later lane in his bed on satin sheets, Jose told stories that confirmed Steve's biggest hunches that more and more players were using steroids and that major league baseball essentially headed don't ask, don't tell policy in nineteen Ninety-one the league Senator memo that using steroids was against the rules. But it was a joke because no team ever tested for them. They didn't care what I was doing. They want him to do whatever I had to do to promote the Oakland's to hit monsters. Home runs to do the forty forty because I was feeling the stadium by myself Jose told Steve story after story about how players were always coming up to him, asking him questions about steroids. The same stories he later told Pedro Gomez, you know, let's say he'd hit a double the opposing second baseman or shortstop would come up to him during the game. Like right when the double was hit and say, hey, man, what are you on? I gotta get some of that and the thing that understand about the Jose. Saco mindset at the time that we will working on the book is he really did see himself as the pied piper of better living through chemistry. Here's a question. If at one point in time, everyone in mentally baseball using PD's, it's an even playing field. Why cheating you're not. Up to then Jose told about himself, his career, his use of steroids. Now he was going to have to share dirt on other players. I mean, there was some sleepless nights in there too, because these guys were also my friends, my teammates, but Jose had promised dude at the book with names in. And if that's what it was going to take to get back the league, then that's what he was going to do. I think he just pulled out his Rolodex and said, you want names, I got names here are all the players that have ever talked to me or that I know firsthand what's going on. And it wasn't just this player asked me for advice, or I heard a rumor about this. Second baseman Jose gave specifics what I inject hung solace yet the nicest out of the Bunce. So I kind of say joke, Lee Palmer, aluminum, flat as one lost the best ASO. It's kind of funny. Jose introduced countless ballplayers steroids. That was all obviously true. I had background reporting on it. I knew a lot of people in the as organization who I talked to over the years. I knew that we were on very solid ground for the enters Regan. All the details in the book were fascinating, even juicy, but ghost rider. Steve capman knew they were game changing. I understood. I was at the center of a very large storm and it was real those weeks leading up to publication when really, no one else understood that including the publisher, but they didn't understand how this would be perceived in the world of baseball or the world of sports writing. I understood what we had and I understood the impact. It was going to have. Jose walked into Judas office in early two thousand four writing began in November, and the plan was to have the book out before spring training in March two thousand five one year after the failed trial with the dodgers I was told it was going to be a much faster production. It was going to be a crash book. Daniel neary was used to editing quickly. That was the norm at Regan books, but juiced. That was a whole new level. This is not going to be a book where you write the whole thing, and then you turn it in months later. This is a book where every two chapters you're gonna, start mailing it back. So we can get started on the editing. I remember Christmas Eve, two thousand four, it's midnight, and I call my girlfriend to wish her merry Christmas from the office while I'm editing juiced in my pajamas like dots how I spent Christmas Eve. So it was just me and the lights are down and and so, yeah, it was. It was very, very fast. It was. It was definitely the fast. Book never been part of, but around the new year ghost rider, Steve Cadman heard some troubling rumors. They got back to may that that wasn't sure she wanted to publish it that she was giving some thought to killing the book St. was not going to let that happen. And he had an idea how to save the book. So we added the athlete sex life, chapter my agents, myself, and some players, we would go to a club with a couple of moles, bring back about twenty girls about had really big sweets, and we will have beauty pageants in mice. We would have fake cards with markers and the top, like five contestants. We continue the party at night, taking them out with us all these exotic clubs like that. The rest of the girls go home. I knew that Judith Regan would find it interesting, entertaining, and it would be something that could interest people who weren't. You know, seam heads, they weren't crazy baseball fans. This was more human interest. It was more the bigger than baseball side of Jose, Madonna, and that chapter of his life. I don't want to mention Madonna that had to run it with her and she wanted to date me wanna have my kids get married and the whole combination. Judith Regan found that incredibly interesting. I think it goes to show you in how Madonna was an actual hook for this book. Jose was always telling anyone who would listen that one day he would write a book. There was something he was always talking about to the point where in the glory days, there was a kind of joke, you know, in the clubhouse guys would even get him about going to put that in your book Jose. The beat writers who covered the team. We laugh about it like, what could can Saco possibly write a book on. But the joke wasn't funny anymore. Word was getting around that Jose had actually done it by just remember players talking to me and asking, what is he going to say this book? What do you think is going to be come out of this? And I and I said, you know, Jose. It could be anything. Pedro Gomez, Jose's high school friend and longtime baseball writer. Soon found out exactly what was in the book. I remember receiving a big Brown envelope that came in the mail and there it was, and I opened it was from a publisher. And I grabbed a glass of wine. I sat down and I started reading juiced. The book called out people like conseceutiuve, former bash, brother teammate, Mark Maguire, and the peons Alice and all-star slugger Rafael Palmeiro. I remember getting it about a week and a half two weeks before and thinking, oh my God. This is gonna blow the lid off of baseball. February fourteenth. Two thousand five Jose can Seko's book juiced hit bookshelves. How much what Jose Canseco says should we reasonably believe could see the. Amount of energy that was going into trying to trash the book immediately, I am not going to extend my benefit of the doubt to Jose can say, go who has been a loose cannon at times. You know, whatever motorcycles doing this for, we don't know whether it's whether it's, I mean, Jose had broken a code by talking about what happens in baseball. Locker rooms and people didn't just attack the message. They attacked the messenger, what will happen with Consejo and I would do this if I was the lawyer for somebody else, I deny everything happened and I would attack consensus character. I am on steroids. I've been on steroids. I'm full of juice right now to that extra edge. Yeah, I have a hard time believing Jose Canseco. I have to have a second or third source on this. Do you have money problems? Do you to make money's money? And did you write this book and not care what you said it just to make money. You know what the guys care what holidays track record has been throated. Majorly. Burs roll out of the game. A lot of the media that cover baseball view themselves as guardians of the game. And I think that they wanted to take on the mantle of protecting the game and saying, no, this is not true at all. And or at least most of it is not true. There was a lot of push back to the book from some of the biggest names in baseball, legendary manager, Tony LaRussa, very upset because the claims that he's making our personally and professionally going to taint teammates that deserve the truth. And that's not what it was as thrown out there. One Consol is onset Goma's hurt my feelings. You know, because I never have us the steroids or something very bonds has better than Jose then. And I've been better than Jose's career so I don't have. I don't have anything to talk about Jose. Look, you know, did he betray people? Did they feel that he was a rat. Yeah, of course they did. You know, because he told the truth about what was actually happening behind the scenes and nobody likes that. Nobody wants to hear the truth. Nobody wants us to pull the curtain and see the wizard of Oz behind the curtain. Right? But he did. You had a lot of players who were humiliated and their only recourse was to call Jose Aligarh at the time, but sure enough. I mean, Jose's credibility when it came to naming names, you know to use a baseball term, he hit for a very high average. And of course we find out after time that no one because you can't see the truth. It's just ridiculous. Within a month. Juice hit hit number one on the bestseller list, and it was also becoming clear that the impact is going to go beyond the bookshelves Jose's wasn't the only steroids story making headlines. By this point, the FBI had opened investigation into superstar Barry Bonds and the steroid manufacturer about co. They could easily come after Jose next. And the period when the book was coming out, I was very concerned about a knock on our door and having that FBI come in and want everything as a ghost writer. Steve capman had recorded all his conversations with Jose. I had them in some like special hiding place, and then I toss them all at one point because I just consider them too hot. I often recycle tapes anyway. So I don't wanna make it sound like I was tampering with evidence or something, but I made a point of not only getting rid of that, but I think I had some notes. Transcript that I also took off my computer and put on a disk and then hid somewhere. Steroids will again take center stage before congress. March seventeenth Jose didn't get wrapped up in the FBI investigation, but just weeks after the book's release his allegations did get some attention from congress. Members of the major league baseball, Commissioner's office along with former player. Jose Saco have been asked to appear as the house government reform committee investigate congress is going to take up the issue of steroids and baseball. What are they doing? Meddling in baseball. Baseball is America's pastime hearings about baseball or one of Congress's favorite pastimes two dozen. Remember this was you know, the early two, thousands, David Maron was the communication director for the house government reform committee. We were in the middle of the Iraq war. We were in the middle of debates really partisan debates over over tax cuts, regulatory reform. The atmosphere on the hill was was fairly toxic. The representatives on the committee needed an easy win. They were looking hole. hearings on a subject they could show by partisan support. And when Jose's book came out, they thought they'd found it. They figured nothing would rally Americans more than congress standing up for the sanctity of America's favorite pastime intelligence reform bugged down gas prices at an all time, high and millions of kids without health care. It was comforting to see congress take on the most pressing issue of all do baseball players use Skero IDs. Here's a hint. Yes. March seventeenth. Two thousand five. When the hearing started the committee members were all seated facing a row of empty chairs. Dozens of taco for stood by waiting for the players to arrive. One by one giant men in custom suits and sombre faces entered the roof. We're going to swear member in before they buy individually. We have a very distinguished panel hair obviously in front of Mr Jose Canseco the former member of the Oakland Athletics. Mr. Sammy Sosa current member of the Baltimore Orioles. Mr. Mark Maguire for remember the Oakland Athletics, Mr. Rafael Palmeiro current member, the Baltimore Orioles and Curt Schilling current member of the Boston Red Sox consi- co. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you, a chairman, members of the committee distinguished guest. My name is Saco and for seventeen years I played professional baseball over the course of two and a half hours. The players denied invaded almost everything thrown at them. I do not intend to dignify Mr. Seko's book. It should be enough that you consider the source of the statements in the book. Mr. Saco is on a shame advocate for increase steroid use by all athletes. I hope the committee recognizes the danger, possibly glorifying. The so-called author scheduled testified today or by indirectly assisting him to sell more books, claim that what he was doing somehow good for this country or the game of baseball. The statements were carefully crafted to walk a fine line because admitting to steroid use, could have landed a player in prison for up to year and up to five years for perjury, if they lied. I can't answer that that's not for me to determine to why not? I don't know it. No, I'm not going to get it in the past. I had no idea. I'm a private person. I don't really go, you know what? I've never had that problem. My messages that steroids is is bad, don't do. It's a bad message and I'm here because of that. The one I didn't like when Rafah for male shook his finger at congress said, let me start by telling you this. I have never used steroids period. I do not know how to say it any more clearly than that. Never. The reference to me in Mr. Seko's book is absolutely false. It was ridiculous because I jetted him. I have heard a discrepancy of opinion about the seriousness of the problem. Mr. Saco says it's rampant. Mr. schilling says, he's not so sure. He doesn't really think it is terribly serious problem. So let me start off and I know this was a hard one. Are we talking about one percent of players to your judgment? Doing ten percent is vista the consi- co. The only player in the world have done this Maguire. Would you like to speculate how would know? But there's, there's a big reason why we're here today to talk about marrow. I wouldn't know. I couldn't take a guess. I just think as long as even one percent is too high. This is a joke. This is a fucking circus is the God damn joke. Nothing was really accomplished that day. There were no admissions from players, but the integrity of the game was now in question baseball's biggest heroes had been asked tough questions and their answers hadn't convinced anyone. The most important thing for any any pro sport is that it has to be legitimate. And the fact that PD's were so widespread led to a lot of people believing that the outcomes were illegitimate because whoever had the better chemist was going to win the game. Baseball's reputation was damaged, and now they would have to take the issue of steroid seriously. What can Seko's book did was basically push baseball toward testing because congress got involved because of Ken Seko's book. And I think. For that reason. Baseball said, we will take care of this. We will clean up our sport today. MLB and the players union agreed to a new policy that toughens penalties for steroid users, fifty games for a first offense. One hundred for a second and a lifetime ban for third, I think as as much as baseball may want him to just go away and never mentioned his name. He is going to be mentioned throughout history of the game because of the role he played really in pushing for testing. But even still posy can take himself doesn't seem to fully grasp the impact and the consequences of writing juiced. I wanted to tell my story and I want to tag major league baseball for what they did, what they allowed to happen. Big story today, Rafael Palmeiro suspended, ten games, major league baseball after testing positive for steroids score suspension handed down by major league baseball. One hundred five games for former AL MVP Miguel tot up so anything in the way of beginning to took it down. Which later on I realized very wrong when you're angry subsides and all the dust clears and you realize, you know, kinda see Tomek bomb went off that hearing is harder for very difficult at flooded players. Eligible for the hall. And then went all the Debry clears years and years down the line. You see the devastation down which Lewis democrat want wired named rip from five mile recommended. I think today testimony probably will talk to March wire birth ballots thing. There's no getting around the fact that these players will forever be tarnished. It'll probably be in their obituaries. For an entire generation in baseball performance enhancing drugs the elephant in the room, the growing problem that no one wanted to acknowledge. And then Jews came along three hundred pages of petty revenge with the book Jose can Saco the man who in many ways was most responsible for the spread of steroids and baseball lit a match and burn the reputation of the game and some of its biggest stars to the ground. Do you see the impact that your book and you had on changing the game? Let me tell you the only thing my book destroy with me. Everyone else benefited, but me I was destroyed the most, but just on the true, I suffered the most period, we'll leave it at that. Stay tuned for a preview of the next thirty for thirty podcast. As you know, a good podcast can enhance any trip, but look, you're going to run on a podcast. Listen to some point. 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Episode 764: Phil Wickham

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Episode 764: Phil Wickham

"From the creators of relevant magazine. This is the relevant podcast. And and and it's Tuesday December. Third Two thousand nine thousand nine hundred and welcome to the Christmas season era. This year's irrelevant relevant podcast. I'm your host Huckabee coming at you from Nashville Tennessee. Down There in Orlando Florida on the ones twos as always manning the ship making sure we don't go into the ditch. It's my friend our producer string and over there in Loveland Virginia. Also making sure we don't go into the ditch but never doing a very good the job of it. It's my friend Jesse Gary Hello. I spent a lot of time in ditches over the years. Decade is coming to afflicting on ditch time and significant as the years. Go on more ditch timeless road time. I've been I remember early. Memory of getting stuck in a large ditch as a child and I didn't care he was all right down there. What are the concrete ditches and me and my brother were like we had? We had some contraption that we made it was like a coffee business back. It sounds like when I described this all the sudden I grew up in the era of like newsies or like huckleberry Finn but it was before like four and so we we have like a coffee can and a string and we're trying to dip it. We're pretty far from home. We buy again by this is before like there is a free range shoulder move. This is just when kids just walked out of the house and just didn't return for hours on end and parents really and think about like I don't know for the police before the before the nobis keep tabs on your children twenty four. We're seven. Yeah I like. I don't know I don't know this happens anymore. Back did I didn't think about it. Like literally wasn't like. Hey go out. It was just like I'm just walking out of the house as a nine year old and I don't know what I'll return and literally. We found all cool by concrete drainage ditch and we had this contraption to like put put down there and get tadpoles out of course immediately. Drop it and I'm like no. I will crawl down there and retrieving all the tadpoles that we need and and and again I'm down in the ditch and I have no way out once I'm down there. I didn't think about how to get out. My brother tried to hand me a stick and again as talking to like this. It sounds like me and my brother looks quite as their time. I spent quite a bit of time down in that ditch that afternoon while my brother went and got my parents and I'll be honest. I think he took his time. I think he may have run a couple of errands on the bike. But he may have gone to a friend's house and just left buffy in that ditch long but ever since then. I've been comfortable and just diving right into the kitchen. Hang out down there. So that's a little kid at least if you grow up Sort of out in the country. When you're you're a little kid there's not your first instinct with a lot of problems that come up is like get a stick remember those? He's just one fails will resort to calling the adults the grownups but first. Let's see if somebody can grab onto either if some believes or a branch or something around me that I pick up can help solve the situation relation and I don't think it was very successful but yeah you had to try. It's like a a finding stick as a child is basically in your first introduction to the scientific method like Sia Kumho the ground. That's Jim a stick down there see if anything comes out. Let's let's see like a cool looking ness of of some sort of wasp or Hornet or something better. Go poke it with a stick. Your friend giving your travel fashion. You know as kids sticks. Were really a valuable resource valid. I think part of it had to do with. How plentiful were you stick around so so you had to go with what he had to work with? Whatever you had you could build homes out of people did make a nice? Oh trae forest where you grew up out there were how how big. How big was the outdoors to your childhood? While growing up we lived in the woods so pretty big nick. That'll do you know I I've you know we've known each of time. You seem like the type a person I don't. I don't picture that you had many enemies out in those woods as a child I you do strike me as someone who would probably fashion some sort of Speier or booby traps around the house. Just in case something went down. Is that accurate. Did you ever do something like that. That's pretty accurate. Yeah yeah sure sure. Yeah Oh oh yeah. I was pretty into pretty weapons grownup. Yeah I mean I don't know why kids have like this fascination with booby traps. It's as if like an I anti kid booby-trapped. There's like you wash home alone and you're like okay. How hard could this be to protect my house from invaders? You know but I mean literally it's just like I digging a hole the only booby-trap you really know how to do as a kid is like you dig a hole and you cover it with like sticks leaves in hoping that someone will stab at. Oh McDonald's trap the burglar down to that whole and he'll never get to me. I'll be able to call the police. I'll be a local hero reality as a kid. You don't have the ability to dig that deep. Even Your Dad's sprained his ankle cut McGrath's shop any state privileges takeaway weirdly big influ. Who An outsized influence? I would say on like growing up in the late eighties early nineties. That part of home alone really did a number on those who are like. I don't not a plan. Ready to go way underprepared for the wet bandits to advance Christmas time. I don't know what what I would do. If my mom left if the MOM and the rest of the family had out and they forget that they just leave for Christmas vacation leave me at home. Kevin was much more resourceful so then I would have been. Oh Man I would have been starved. I I would have started and they would have ransacked my home for all the valuables and yeah yeah. Because you're saying I didn't have a tarantula have any pets growing and also. My BB gun was confiscated. Literally the day I obtained it. I immediately lost be curve. Which frankly they weren't too crazy on me finding sticks after awhile show the homemade nunchucks for all I hat where all I had and those were more lethal than anyone else? I mean. I've yeah so the you did. Did you speak home alone. Christmas time Coming out of Thanksgiving into the official holiday season. I'm looking around just not. I'm not seeing a decorated up there in the office. Have Y'all put up the tree or anything yet. We we we. We obtained very large industry last night. For my home and and We started that you know pretty excited. I guess for for decorating. I'll be honest as an adult. Seems like a lot of work just to be Undone Eh. Couple of weeks for about a week even put the boxes back in the adequate. Just gotTA shove them in a corner because honestly I three weeks from now. We're GONNA have the conversation about getting the boxes out again. You know like there's gotta be. Did you got to be some kind of solution here. You know neither extend the appropriate appropriate season for decorating. Or you know figure out a solution for these boxes you know like I mean I'm I don't WanNa tell me grinch here but it is. It is a lot of Islam task by task and balls yet. How somebody could? Somebody could really make a small fortune off Christmas boxes that doubled as decorated decorations. Like you just leave mount around and it looks like we're supposed to be part of the Christmas the Christmas setup around there. Yeah I'm sure those exists somewhere with all the Christmas decorations they've got when I was in college I briefly had a job I briefly because it was terrible at it and I lost the job almost immediately mainly because of things involving me hitting things with sticks the rich in college kids to Hang Christmas lights which I was like is a good shirt season. That's a good job but I will say this. If rich people are paying you to do something they held you to to a pretty high standard and I have no training Christmas lights. I don't know what they expect. They could ease up and not get so mad enough. Fire me after the first day because not as easily okay persnickety about it. They got ideas of what their Christmas house to look at Christmas house there. Little North Pole cottage to look like. I'm sorry but a single string the lights can't deliver for on your Santa Claus Fantasies. I'm sorry you're thinking that the major remain sticks this year authentic and yes it is ultra. WHO's GonNa try to analyze your setup? I ll be trapped. The scene free of charge for you sir. So for you to fire me right right now is a pretty big blow. Because your whole yards booby-trapped courtesy of me was messing with your lights. And frankly your house is burglarized chances at lease that Guy Breaking Ankle on the way out so fire me. If you want but I I say merry Christmas does somebody comes to steal the baby. Jesus out of whatever Mr mcallister is front yard. Whoever it is is GonNa step on a nail like they like they did or get paid Candida Phase Ernie other number of definitely life risking if not a straight up lethal booby traps? That Kevin had no malone. Listen I have dug a very large ditch pitch around your home. And I've I've heard the top with sticks and leaves bad guys are right in there and trust me. I've been now where they want to be. You should be thanking me. Knock suited doing me for digging a ditch in your yard over and above. You're welcome to your neighbors but we do have a great Christmas guests today. We have greg very very good Christmas. Great a great holiday season guests are Pal Phil. Wickham is going to be here for people who stuck around through the booby trap. Conversation Phil Wickham is here to talk about it. He's got a brand a new Christmas album out. This year is acting a little bit about it and also hear hear a song from that album. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back slices they don't want to G.. Now you're you're listening to Father Christmas cakes meeting the podcast. You heard everything has gone wrong at the Bombay bicycle classical club. That's but the thieves are going to be saying from the bottom of the ditch all En route to Steal Nativity everything. That's yeah well. I hope in with a second remind coming Ski Polka Polka. That's what they get for stealing on Christmas. Well it's time to look back at our weekly look at the news stories that this week. It's time for Jesse what he got. Well just just when you thought conversations could not get more inconsequential than hoarding stacks and child stories. I do have to completely really inconsequential stories. But I wanted to bring them. Because it's like I feel like we have. We got a lot of great content coming. They you know a couple more breezy items. Both of these were things that people send to me on twitter. I felt the need to address. One is related to our conversation about the APP Cameo in which we talked about last week because so so first some context. This APP allows you to essentially pay various celebrities. Am I say celebrities somewhat loosely to record video messages and depending on the celebrity over cordray. Whatever you want? Someone paid the leasing of sugary mark. McGrath I think it was a hundred fifty bucks to break up with her boyfriend and he did an incredible job he he was very gracious he. It was inspiring and he deliver the hard news with a heart that only mark McGrath or a member of sugar ray could do. We talked about laying life-affirming. Yeah we had Derek minor on on he he. He gave his two cents. He seemed to like this idea. Well someone somehow I missed this earlier this year. You know it's the end not only of the year the end of the decade. We're looking back so similar favorite stories and content over the years later in the show but I wanted to talk about this story from back in February. Here's the headline. Here's a headline from Huffington Post. Then I'm going to dig into it a little for five thousand dollars you can hunt bigfoot with Jose Canseco Jose Canseco is is one of the two members of the bash. Brothers a very very large baseball player. How say this? He played at the height of the steroid era and he still is one of the most massive human beings ever. He's kind of a strange cat has said some potentially problematic things but his kind of a weird icon of the nineties. You know active active online still very active unfortunately intensive very active and I would say probably ill advisedly loquacious twitter presence. Yeah he he. He sounds off and gives his opinion on a lot of things that no one asked. Ask Him to but back in February this year. You know this kind of shows the interesting moment we're at with Internet culture and also celebrity culture where they've sort of merged at made celebrity culture like a lot more obtainable like with cameo. You can literally hire you know someone that other other people know to record message for you for a small fee. This one is more as five thousand dollars but back in February. Jose tweeted these messages and forgive me for listeners that we've been following following this story since February. This is what Jose Jose Canseco tweeted. I'm going to read both tweets go on a bigfoot alien excursion with Jose Canseco Contact Morgan management at and he left a phone number. The following tweet said come spend the day with me and my alien buddies. I'll show you big foot in in a real alien call Morgan. He left a phone number now. I did call Morgan this afternoon. I wanted to I listen. I've I am a journalist consummate professional and I need to know of this offer still stance Because I don't feel like you post something this a real alien and he says is I'll show you big foot. Unfortunately went straight to voicemail. I can only assume that WHO's ever phone. This is it just. Inundate has been inundated for months but the HUFFINGTON post back in February was able to get a message from Morgan who Jose can say. Go just assumes we should know who Morgen S. 'cause call all Morgan he'll set this up listen I've Robinson an alien and bigfoot Morgan. Whoever just call him he'll figure out the deeds? Here's a message. Huffington post got spend the weekend with Jose eight for five thousand dollars cash. It does specify cash. I I hope that who can say go just wants it like in a greasy old brown. Paperback you're not even not even a briefcase home. The paper bag unmarked bill unmarked bills left in a dumpster behind the local hobby lobby. Where Morgan enlist only five individuals will get a golden ticket? Hoople was ain't got nothing on bigfoot. Travel in here's where it gets interesting certain. Here's where he gets interesting about travel in his customer V. Two authentic alien sightings and proven bigfoot habitats camp out in the while tell stories and maybe meteoroid bigfoot. You never know what's going to happen with monsieur can SACO parentheses food included only serious inquiries please. Now I don't know what's it's more terrifying going out and and you know to a bigfoot habitat and to find an also an actual alien or to spend the weekend in an RV. With Jose Kaneko the latter sounds far more terrifying. I think you're going in without much regard for personal safety and wellbeing because there are any number the things that could happen to you on this really. None of them good. No I don't see any like let's say hypothetically Yunos Ache and say go do run across a big what then because if I'm if I'm encountering bigfoot maybe the last person on this earth I wanna be with this Jose Canseco. He didn't seem like rational person in the world. Someone if I came across a foot in the wild or in alien I don't want someone who is guaranteed to antagonize. Is it in. Probably try to wrestle it which I'm sure Jose can take it can say go would love a test of strength against the first big slash alien. I mean it sounds like he's doesn't particularly care what he finds out there as long as it's something that is dangerous and probably in his mind really delivers the investment. That whoever's come within the news made and that could look like a lot of things you're probably I guarantee you this. BIGFOOT HABITAT HIS. He he too has gone with the old booby-trap method which is digging too big hole. He's just hoping he's got a big down there. So I really love the idea of business venture so so hopefully they returned my call because I want to see if this is still on the table and let dear listeners. There are a lot of great causes for people to give to and I encourage them to. But what if anyone wants to set up a go fund me for me to go. bigfoot hunting with Seiko I will gladly do it. Maybe we can match nations or something for maybe this could be another return to the nickelback nickelback challenge or years ago. Like if we could we could get this other Funda you see this money. Could all end up going to charity water or any other her first thousand dollars of it which will be used for me and has eight exactly go to hit the RV. No you know. Enjoy the back and hit the desert for a weekend. I will tell us the tales. I feel my mom and dad get the BB gun back. You're going to need it out there. I still got six x Ray and weaponry all over my old neighborhood as a child like you're too you know what's found them. Okay I'll load up. We'll be we'll be just fine out there. I'm not I'm not overly concerned. What about our safety so Second slice that someone sent me on the Internet that a or on twitter that I wanted to discuss today was they sent me a link to a website call a cat free kids dot org and they asked me to solve this Internet mystery so few weeks ago a website appear called cat. Free Kids Dot Org. It has a you know. A bunch of it looks almost like a political campaign site and it says get informed Malva category while the cottage claims that some types of cats are safer than others. Science proves that cats are serious. Risk kids get involved. It's time to you make our leaders. Listen we must protect our kids with these safeguards in the fear. No cats are safe but we have a plan to end this epidemic forever ever and there is a very terrifying video chandler. If you don't mind if we just play The first minute or so of this video. There's a new epidemic spreading winging it is not underage drinking. It's not texting while driving. It's not vaping. Scientists say it can change your brain releasing dangerous parasites parasites into your body and as importantly it's addicting a new generation of kids. It's called catching the cat. Industry industry would like you to believe that cancer just an innocent but the facts to the different story so I couldn't initially this all seem seem like there's some kind of weird practical joke like that caddying other you know hanging out with cats is some nefarious type of activity right. That needs to be that needs to be stopped and I was very confused looking through the site for a second right. Were you as well. I forget how even stumbled across this in the first place. Woah someone sending me on twitter. Say If if what what I could find you know because then I went on the twitter account and this is their twitter file. The cat in the twitter bio the cat industry had their dirty Paul's on our media government and kids too long. Now we're clawing back I don't like cats right right down there and say this was just someone with a massive amount of time on their hand in a massive amount of money to create a very slick website and video WPRO to prevent people from owning cats. That's fine with me. I'm not a big fan of domesticated animals. You know a big fan of pets do much work too much work for me right so but I was curious as to what this site is all about but eventually I found some thanks is to read it and kind of clicking around I found what the objective is of this campaign. This is actually an anti anti tyvene campaign so there there's an anti anti is that a double negative. That's a double pro WPRO. Well I guess technically it's pro vaping but it's anti the anti vaping movement so as a lot as some listeners may be aware are recently in the last couple months oversights sort of a health epidemic. Where a lot of people are getting sick and some people would even died after vaping and as a result halt there is a lot of talk of legislation to come down to regulate the industry? You know the the president famously spoke out against against vaping and so they were sort of these. I don't want to say knee-jerk reactions but it was before doctors really had an idea of what we're causing housing. This vape related injuries. which you know the the let legislators kind of like I said took a knee jerk? Approach approach started talking about ways that they could prevent people from being particularly kits which is a good thing. You probably don't want kids faith and anyway but there they do kind of what they do a lot of times when there is like a new trend among among the team among the youth and it's easy to immediately jump to this is bad. The whole thing is bad. The whole industry is is rotten. Let's ban it for other because as it turns out now. A lot of the doctors are saying that the illnesses that were caused that that in this sort of time of epidemic dimic where likely because people were using black market like thc right yeah of eight pot so or cartridges. So I like people were using unregulated oil that contained basically concentrated. Marijuana are WANNA that also had some bad chemicals in it. That was making people sick. It wasn't necessarily the Cotton Candy Jewel or whatever the kids are smoking down in the concrete ditch away from their parents yet. I'm not saying I'm not saying that type of Abyan is good but that's slightly not what was causing. All of these people get seriously seriously ill so on their website. If you dig around long enough you'll find this. There are very power. This is a quote from the website. There are very powerful industry. Funded voices pushing for bands that make even less sense than banning cats. We hope you can join us in using common sense and allowing Americans Ericans in our neighbors around the world to choose something enjoyable and relatively safe just like cats so it's all kind of a big work of satire to to indicate from. They're all extremely involved but as a method of kind of challenging perception. About something that that there is sort of this mass care about. What do you think about the method tyler of using kind of high minded satire to make a point about out legislation? Yeah I think in general I don't mind I think fun campaigns like this can help draw a lot of a lot of fun engagement tin enter. Find I've kind of a back door. People think of something kind of interesting I think with this one in particular is I think the method is it really going to work on anybody who is already like. I think the people freaking out about the Jewish settlers mostly the boomer Su who maybe are really going to be all that drawn into a campaign like this one in particular. Do you know what makes sense like this. Takes a certain level of savvy that would lend itself to being suspicious of any reactionary Ah A VINNIE. Reactionary attitudes towards vaping jewels as it stands so. I'm not sure that I might be a case. Like decent or kind of interesting and fun and method dis- geared towards an audience that I don't know it's going to be particularly receptive towards it. Yeah I I understand the point. They're making that. Oh absolutely that you're just scaring people into being afraid of something that there's no need to be afraid of. It looks absurd entirely. Yeah angry at the point. Yeah but is this the best method of showcasing that vaping his say day for one vaping. I think that the point they're missing is whether it's safe or not. VAPING is super lame. That's the message we should be. I don't I don't know about the hell I mean. It seems like health risk. You know a lot of people are pretty unsure positive this simply not to look lame while vaping vaping. Why isn't that bad reputation? The image to your social standing. Think about that. Do you really want. Is this worth alienating. Your peers Asia too. You want to be the person that's vaping like. Do you want to be the person that's hanging brunch. Hey guys I'm going to go outside. I mean a quick hit of the vape. Don't be the vapor. There's there's no cool way it is. It is the opposite of Taylor are you. You're you're mad about town you DJ on the weekends. Yeah A- are you among the consensus that vaping is on a shortlist a very very lame things to be seen doing the the thing that blows my mind is that people start start doing it and get addicted to nicotine like it's like I understand some people. It's like a yeah. They're trying to quit smoking. So it's at some you can do to wean off or whatever but the wild thing is that people start. It's like someone like Nicorette Patch for the fun of it for fashion raisins addicted to smoking exactly. That's that's what blows my mind. That is it's like someone who's never smoked before chewing the the smoking gum just because like the taste of it and then happen to start smoking. Four packs a day. Nothing about this I I mean I understand the point of this campaign and I guess there's a degree of SAV marketing savvy. That goes into creating that but again I think they're they're addressing the wrong arguments here. I get the scientists still out on how safe or unsafe it is but the facts are in. If you look very lame while in your body your body can heal. Your social standing will never recover. It's like it's like shopping at a hot topic when you're ten years old you just don't want to be in there. You don't WanNa be seen in there. That's that's what vaping raping is popping in hot topic. Quick Way Too old to rock that nightmare before Christmas ironic sweater this year. Like it's just not like if if you're if you're if you're if you're tempted with guy liner I would I would. I would suspect that you might be in the vaping aping demographic and we're just giving you a warning right now. It's not a great now. It's it's just it's just not look. I've got a few strokes as well. We'll go a little faster than the first one. Well I got I got. I got a serious areas one a much more serious when the serious one and this is something. I think I might even discussed on here. The podcast before we've discussed on a couple of times but it has has to do with something that I've wondered if this was going to happen. I wonder if this would be tracked that certain groups are trying to take with the current administration and it looks like they are. I'll be very recur to follow the story and also the reactions to this story so as we know trump administration digging a very hard line approach against immigration Thanks mostly to the the The a lot of the beliefs the immigration policy beliefs of Stephen Miller who is sort of the the president's right hand man when it comes to immigration it was also exposed. As having some white nationalist tendencies be some emails that were released over the past. Couple of weeks now the Now the the the there's been a new cap sent on how many set on how many refugees the trump administration is going to allow in in twenty twenty It's going to be eighteen. Eighteen thousand refugees total still historically low number two record. Low district comparison the CAP. At the last year of President Obama's. Your office was one hundred. In Ten thousand snouts. Senators eighteen thousand. This is of course been very disruptive for groups that help resettle refugees here in the US this has caused a been a huge shift. And how they operate many of his of course being faith groups of a an a few of these groups are actually working with the federal the government to help resettle right there are nine groups in the. US that help resettle refugees am six of those organizations are faith-based now three of those groups have actually banded together to bring a lawsuit to the trump administration saying that this new track towards towards immigration and refugees is actually represents sort of a threat to their religious freedom because the Bible in the case of two two of these groups The final group is Jewish. This so the Hebrew Bible or the Old Testament is Christians call it Commands love and compassion towards the stranger towards refugees. Who Come in? And they say that because of these new laws from the trump administration the new policy. It's a threat to their religious freedom. The lawsuits being brought by a group called the H. A. S. asked which is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society also church World Service in the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service The lawsuit quote keeps people of Faith from fulfilling their faith calling and missions to welcome the stranger. So this is something I did one. I know that religious freedom is a is a big concern for people on the right and the left. Obviously you don't really hear religious freedom arguments coming Against the trump administration very often because the bit station has been so So so forceful and its messaging to faith about religious freedom so this sort of goes against that narrative an interesting way. I'll be really interested to see how this this lawsuit pans out. Do you think. Do you think there's an argument here. Do you think they have a case to make. I mean I think it seems like I mean. This is the same legal L. Defense from that we discussed last week. you know that's Karadzic related to this story about. There is a an activist who was arrested rested because he would leave like water bottles and supplies in the desert to help immigrants who are crossing the border basically to prevent people from dying out in the desert and he his legal defense for that. was that him. Doing that was an expert was part of his free exercise of religion that his religion commanded him to help immigrants and to help people. So it's sort of a similar legal argument that By restricting the the the number of refugees that come into the country it inhibits are biblical calling to serve those immigrants or refugees. Jeez I I mean I am not a legal scholar but I like the approach I be because mainly because even if even if it's an unsuccessful legal strategy at least it helps people view faith particularly in this case. Ace I think you said it was a Jewish organization as well as a Christian organization. Is that right tyler. To Christian organizations in Jewish one and particularly those faiths as serving refugees and immigrants being so important to the the core of of exercising those faith practices that by restricting the access to those people to serve that actually inhibits our ability to practice religion religion. I think that's a very good perception to create even if it doesn't win the legal argument at least it creates a perception that our faith compels service to help people who are in need and like I said even if it doesn't work from a legal perspective which I hope it does at least it. Further this further underscores how important that is to faith. I think that it's a it's a plus. I think it goes what it's kind of been difficult to do. It goes on the offensive a little bit on the behalf of refugees instead of just reacting to everything that the that the administration is doing which many of which have been very damaging and cost the lives likely of immigrants and refugees. Sort of taking the fight to not like you said not. Just stay a loss which again I'm sure there are. People are attorneys and people with more political savvy than I have who understand the likelihood of this case to succeed the it better than I do but I think the narratives like you said as a as a really good one and And inputs the administration that people who are supportive of this administration's stations tactics towards refugees It makes them have to answer for how this is justified. Which I do think biblically is a difficult one to do? Yeah so I'll be really interested in following. This would really like to hear from some of the people like Franklin Graham Jerry Falwell. Oh Junior these gentlemen what they think about this. Because I think it's a I think they make a good biblical case whether or not the legal Whatever the legal ramifications the foundation of it are yeah? Yeah I agree. I think it's A. It's certainly an interesting one to watch. That falls right at the intersection of not just legislation but but also what we view as a core principle of our fit Exactly exactly are so. I want to talk about this is this is even more serious. Yes and I'm sorry to bring to two very heady a switch gravitas to this. I don't these choice. Do these stories choose me. I don't use them all right. I just gotta go go. We got here now. Jesse Bishop is more my name than yours. But as I'm sure you know the recent attempts adapting Superman for cinema have been buried have been fraught with complications. I haven't even. I haven't even watched the the the the D. C. Ones with You know then. Athlete with that flick and Harvey Henry. CAVILL Yeah Henry Cavill I. I haven't even watched us. They are I I'm not interested in recent J.. Take on Superman. They're not they're not very good and it's especially tough because they've been seen. I've got a lot of fun memory. Areso watching those old Christopher Reeves one's going up so the folks over at DC and Warner Brothers who owns DC and news is making. These movies are trying to figure out according according to how to make superman relevant for a new generation right and obviously they're struggling. The idea of immigrants who falls to Earth is raped by midwestern farmers becomes a journalist and takes on and elite billionaire class. Very hard to adapt these times we can relate. I don't I don't think it can be done. Yeah Yeah it's just not gonNA. It's just not going to happen. But they did have a pitch from an interesting source us. Apparently Michael Jordan who were very excited to see Coming up here in just mercy. He's going to be a member of the movies of the year where he went into the mortar brothers sat down with them. Says he has a fresh a New Vision for Superman. Apparently they took the meeting. They're very interested in the idea that he pitched. Which would of course star Michael Jordan as Superman They can't commit to it right now because they wonder multi film deal from him. He's too busy at the time. Time to sign up for one of those on the back burner for the time being but they do wanNA revisited down the road in a couple of years here There's a little bit more to that but first I wanNA get your reaction. What do you think about Michael? B You have seen the Henry Cavill Superman I don't know if you've ever seen a superman movie now. Well here. Here's my main thing with the Henry. CAVILL Superman movies and this is. I'm not trying to be like personal against him. I've never met him before. I'm sure he's a charming fellow. But I do feel like doc on screen. He lacks a little bit of charm. He he lacks a sort of charisma. And I don't feel like there's anything interesting about him. I feel like especially his interpretation of Superman from the little bits that I've seen here and there and kind of your the parts of the movies had to have seen there's other really drawn me into him. Like he just seems. Seems like a guy. Playing Superman hit her main like he doesn't have he's not leaning on this charisma like a Christopher Reeves debt right Michael B Jordan on on the other hand is arguably ones's Mrs Charisma. He wore those charismatic actors. Working Right now I mean everything he is everything is in is interesting. I mean okay. So you look at Esp- especially his ability to invigorate a franchise film. That already has some mm familiarity with the source material with a new sort of energy and attitude. He's really really good at so the creed movies. I feel like our phenomenal. Even if you have no the opinion of the old rocky movies even if you've never seen the old rocky movies the creed films instantly draw you in. Because he's such an interesting unlikeable actor and he has sort of a grit to to his his his style of acting the other example that I feel like really showed what a powerful onscreen foresee is is when he became arguably the most compelling villain in the EU. Not because. Because there's a powerful villain. I mean there was. I mean this is. This is a franchise that has villain that can snap his fingers and wipe out the entire population of the universe yet. An EX special forces soldier in Eric Kill monger in Black Panther played by Michael Jordan. Who has you know basically? No superpowers is the most compelling onscreen version in the entire marvel up the game. Yeah to stop the game. Yeah absolutely absolutely. So that's why you can see why they'd be interested in having somebody like that. who was just? Who's just that gripping? Ah Give do his level. Best to reenergize that franchise switcheroo could really use a shot in the arm. Yeah Yeah so I. I'm really interested to see what they do here. The other thing that I thought was interesting. Is that from what I read The the vision of the superman franchise a Michael Jordan pitched. Is this one that is a lot edgier even then like the PG Thirteen Zack. Snyder Movies which were very violent very dark but it sounds. Sounds like what he's pitching is more in line with joker that it is in line with like Batman v Superman or the DC extended did universe. It sounds like more something. That Warner Brothers would take in the direction of what Joaquin Phoenix it. With joker which is reimagining the pathos of a character in a really interesting way and I think that's obviously joker was made enough money where we need more of we want to do more of those types of movies because that would be made the two billion dollars and and it was very whatever your feelings about it obviously they. They're just see dollar signs at this point. I did want to re this is very interesting. Eve- e- wing is a is a she writes for marvel comics also an SAS an author activist in Chicago. Really love her work. She's she's done a lot of really interesting sting Work on a black liberation in Chicago and has also gotten a job writing for marvel and she had really seen twitter thread about this. I'm just GonNa read a clip from here. She said quote my thoughts on the idea of casting M. B. J. Superman is that in order for that to work. We couldn't just pretend and we live in a colorblind society. That's a joke if you give me a black superman film where. He's just as beloved as America's Golden Boy. You're wack new lie to yourself just dropping. Black superheroes into the mix hither and bitter can't be just about representation on some two dimensional ish if you're not engaging what actually means for the Superhero to be black if you're treating their race like it's incidental an immaterial. What are you doing if you make? A homeless man is black. Showing the people people who constantly doubt him hate him mistrust him and mock him should we the facebook pages where they circulate beams of him. Show the thinly-veiled White Supremacist pundits challenging him on TV nightly and she goes on a little further. But I think that's a really great point is that you couldn't just do a you can just swap swap out superman's race and pretend like that wouldn't have an effect on how he's perceived by a broader society and and. I'm not saying that wouldn't be an interesting movie. I think it'd to be a very interesting to tackle that. I think it'd be a great idea. I WanNa make sure you had the right people in the writer's room and the director's chair to make that kind of movie. Yeah obviously it has to be executed. Well but I think films like I mean I go back to the example just because it's another movie set in the DC Universe is that the joker of they can pull in interesting social ideas effectively. If it's done right and I feel like the same can be said for a movie about Superman that has not just undertones but direct storylines that deal with the implications of his race. I like I feel like that would be super interesting and and could cause a lot of really interesting and productive discussions. Yeah exactly exactly and I hope what they do. I think it'd be a great way to take a new to take a new look at something like that. So that was the that was not thing about this for a couple of of years yet. Obviously this is all just kind of conjecture at the moment but we know that Michael Jordan has had these conversations thing is pretty cool and we'll keep an eye on this as we got a few movies DC movies on the slave. I'm really excited about this Matt Reeves Batman Movie. I hope that ends up being good. And and Maybe the rest of these movies can kinda catch up to the marvel ones in terms of being a AB as interesting as some of the source. Material lends itself to be well. I'll do it this week for a quick quick break when we come back. So joins US breath listening to this year for Christmas. By today's guest Phil Wickham Phil. Wickham is a singer. Songwriter and worship leader recently released. His brand new collection of holiday. Song's called Christmas along with classics. Like joy to the world. Hark the Herald Angels Sing. The album contains some brand new Christmas themed. Originals Jesse recently spoke with Phil about the album some of its standout tracks and what makes a great Christmas Song. Here is part of Jesse's conversation with fell in love Christmas music along with billions around the world and Man I'll just is looking at this last Christmas record I put out. It's called songs for Christmas. and Um then it's kind of stood the test time over the last eight or nine years since it's been out of plane those out on Christmas tours but it just felt like it's almost a decade since the last last time in the there's some songs that have become so my favorite songs ever written like joy to the world and Hark the Herald angels things. I've been going on on Christmas tour every year with somebody's in we seeing some of these songs And when you see him every night the the depth of the lyrics just kinda start start to sink in it becomes less of like a Lullaby you heard it when your kid or something. You're in the back of a lexus commercial during Christmas. You know but I if you you start realizing how deep these lyrics Hark the Herald specifically that songs is like it's crazy how well written it is in epochs languages and shows just that man. I love to put out a record with my take on some of these songs and then also since last record I've written a couple of Christmas songs One of which is is a totally just a love song. My wife called this year for Christmas which you not put out worship records usually so there's rarely a good outlet to put out just a song about how much I love my wife. I thought man if there's ever time to do this on this Christmas you too bad and Bernie Vernet and you need Buddhist in the about strikers. I felt zero pressure across the board. which was maybe why? It's one of my favorite records of ever recorded because really really the only stipulation that knee and producer. Jonathan Smith is really mostly just us working away. The studio brought in a couple of musicians on the one filter that we filter everything through is. Would we listen to this while we were eating Christmas dinner or will we were making Christmas cookies with our kids. You you know like. Is this something we would listen to. And that was the one filter and other than that we you know. I wasn't writing new songs churches to sing. I wasn't making arrangements for churches which is to play. I wasn't making rains radio in mind and even with the love song. I wasn't thinking Men I hope this is simply comes. Classic Love Song Song or or or rises to the top of all the schmaltzy mediocre. Christmas love songs that I've heard out there. All of that was out of my mind in instead. We you just like we had a blast. Recording this record. Put up a Christmas tree in the middle of June in the studio and put some Christmas lights up in in. Yeah just filter. Everything is is this GonNa be like turn the turn the fire on. Get the Fargo in. Turn the oven on Christmas. Cookies going is this. Is this something that I would want to put on so zero pressure in every way maybe I should have felt more pressure. I was thinking actually got freaked out before it came out is like mint. I'm really didn't we didn't think much about this other than like. Maybe I should have thought more about but honestly I'm so pumped what we. Aw Food Eh Chris for Texas through Southern California which we just pretty much do steer clear of all snow in America you know and just stayed stayed stayed in the south you know and we needed like an upbeat song to start out the tour a few years back in and so just out of necessity I worked up this version of joy to the world and send it to the ban and they are all into it and so we've been playing it this way for like four years live and so felt like man I honest honestly when we finally record the record and like finally we can get this this version downs that is always been a special moment to start the night with that. It's something about the arrangement in the energy in adding this other him into joyful joyful. You know I won't go into that it just like it's like that beginning of the night people just like kind of get fired up and standing a feed so really it was. It was a no brainer. Honestly a big reason why I wanted to record. The record was because we had versions wins really to go of like joy to the world in ages. We have heard on high in some of these new songs or face a god had already been out there in the world. I living on Youtube and various the IPHONE version forms. You know and I just thought man. I love to to get some legit studio versions out where we could share with more people than just the people that come to Texas taxes in California with the core Those Phil Wickham next the best of the decade editorial question of the week you are invited to come and see the transparency and accuracy of the net not Bible the net which stands for the new. English translation is the newest complete English translation of the Bible. Now available with over sixty sixty thousand notes documenting every major word decision and text rendering from its translation committee the net offers you an unprecedented look into the centuries. 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No one is stealing it and it does not look hard. Core it is sending the message is the equivalent of a guy doing table side magic at the local pizzeria who is dressed more elaborately criss angel. I'm talking deep. Devi died hair. Lots of bracelets. I'm all for table inside magic. I will go out of my way to go to a restaurant. That's that has table side magic but I don't need the magician to have five dragon rings on each on each finger finger. Okay t shirts just fine. The car treks not for the elaborate. You know wizardry golf get up here. That's that's the vaping mclovin. I just wanted to send those out before we jump into the next segments for people that are concerned about the health risks of vaping. But what it's saying about you I'm trying to help you here. Okay I'm trying to help you. All right you're right. There's been an incredible decade and yeah we asked people to send us. We're doing this throughout the month of December. All right. We're GONNA we're asking this. Yeah I like this a lot and so I wonder so we last week we ask what Derek minor guess on. Last week's show right before Thanksgiving and he talked about some of his favorite albums of the decade we asked listeners to send some of their a favourite. TV shows movies podcasts books albums albums and where we can read through some of those but tyler I one thing I wanted to do the question that I get the one of the most frequently why run into listeners of our the show is what podcast I like so I put together a brief list to of some of my favorite actual podcast episodes of the last decade not just series but if people are looking for jumping off points of particular episodes that shows that I personally have been really affected by the last decade maybe weekend and read some from our listeners. Now jump into a couple of of really of some some particular hours of podcasts. That that I really enjoyed you know in the last decade but I maybe we'll read a couple of things that are our listeners. Yeah Yeah so yes for for offer favorite album to remove podcast episodes TV all kinds of stuff. So let's so let's go. A lot of people responded rotate Rotea Rebecca. Her favorite album of the last decade was the war on drugs. Lost in a dream Taylor. Now you're on drugs fans how molest sure Alma. Yeah it'll it'll it'll crack my top ten. I did on twitter. I put together a threat of my favourite four movies and albums from every every year. Just put those together for people who are interested in Little Tyler Trivia. Unless there's GonNa be a test or anything like that but you can go check those out there and then I'll be winnowing. The bills down in the coming weeks here but lost in the dream for sure making that finalist Rebecca. She's got she's got a really good list interesting she has interesting tastes like I feel like the the TV show. She said there are so many and I feel like the ones that she she picked. You could definitely make a case for Madman Westworld and the Marvelous Miss Mazel all all of which have received a lot of critical acclaim. The interesting choice that Rebecca chose for movie is one that I probably will isn't going to be on a lot of list but I think it's worth mentioning. Because I to be honest I I never saw after. I read some of the reviews I abandoned. I will say ask talk to our old friend Tyler. Drastic about this. At one point this may be one of the best movie trailers ever just as a trailer. It has a great song and has monsters on. The visuals are stunning. The film is the secret. Life of Walter Mitty. It actually makes Rebecca's list of the top films of the decade. If you don't have time to go you'll see the film. Trust me go watch the trailer on YouTube. It's one of the greatest film trailers in the last ten years. I it just really really cool. And Rebecca you are not alone I have. I have a friend who had say favorite movie of all time secret life of automating a good friend so I know there's at least two of you out there Walter Mitty ultimately San represent it yourself. You're doing you're doing great. You got a great for your favorite movie. I WANNA mention Rachel Man. She had a ton I particularly like okay. I predicted like some some of her TV choices for stranger things. Bob's Burgers Bob's burgers which is show. That doesn't get enough attention. Abstract the art design queer eye. She had a a lot of big net flicks fan. Rachel all on that Flex Steph. What's interesting is on her list of movies Black Panther the help Hugo easy a pitch perfect also has the secret life of Walter Mitty? So there's a lot of you. Just it's I didn't realize this film had such cold following we need. We need to revisit it. Maybe we should do a little relevant takes a look back at the movies that shaped us. Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Yeah Yeah yeah any any. We have a ton of some of these as other ones jump out to you. Yes so many great once. A Lotta people for podcasts at the relevant podcast thank you very much. It's nice view. We like it we due Mike is Mike is on my level here. I like I like some of the movies that he's he's a vendor's endgame literacy bias. Maybe but candidates a good movie He really we liked. I like when people have like you know everybody's going to have like the social network on the ray everybody's GonNa there's going to be the ones that are gonNA transcend can gary part of everybody's like la La land. Some of the marvel movies but not many people are gonNA come through with Godzilla King of the monsters which he put on his list of twenty-one bridges but that just came out like daisy fresh? Yeah Yeah I didn't even know but obviously mica seen it and he's all in he's all in. All of his movies are from this year. Which makes you think he might have misread the question? Yeah and thought it was just favorite music twenty nineteen because he has a vendor's endgame Godzilla. Twenty one bridges Captain Marvel. Those are those are and then that the I think it's the same thing actually for all these that doesn't mean it doesn't mean they're not good I still like and so there's a there's a lot you can go on twitter. Look more but if it's cool guys can can. I take a few minutes because because like I said this is a question that I get a lot in terms. Oh yeah because I can't wait. I feel like for me. The last decade my media consumption has changed. He's pretty dramatically. I would say that early in my life I watch a lot of TV later. I watch a lot of movies. Read a lot of books that I kind of Transition Sean. I went to like a heavy music phase and I try to keep all of those things in my life but in the last ten years. There's been no you know medium that I've consumed more of then podcast. I listen dancer thing. I listen to it every single day and I listened to them. I have listened to them almost every single day for last seniors. And there's a couple episodes of different podcasts or some recent advice here but some of these day back quite a few years that I and these aren't what I'm saying are the best. There's a lot of There's a lot of really really great work that's been done You know if you're a fan of history if you're a fan of the really deep interviews and and learning about think but these are a couple that Kinda stuck out to me that when people ask me like. Hey what's it. Entry Point Point for different PODCASTS. Here are a few episodes at stuck out to me. dare was a short-lived at several of these gimblett shows Chandler. I know you're a big fan of Gimblett podcast right. Yeah for sure so reply. All is my favorite yet. Well I have actually I have an upset reply all on on this list but one of the other shows shows. That was a short-lived Gimblett got mystery. Show Chandler did you listen to misery show. The host was starlet Klein. Who I think is really? I have not listened to that one so each episode. Oh she solves kind of a low stakes mystery and in the episode that I recommend people listen to it's called belt buckle and basically basically this guy has When he was a kid kind of a bad boy in his neighborhood who had the shoe box of treasures under his bed with like firecrackers trackers and old baseball cards and that type of thing in that shoebox treasures was a belt buckle? That was the most unique bell ever seen. It actually had toast that wit pop down into a little toaster and it had like an interesting inscription on the back and the kid claimed that he found this this one of a kind unique belt buckle in a gutter so the episode of this podcast tries to find where this belt buckle came from this kid. You know he came into his possession twenty five years ago the journey that you go on through this podcast and the character that you meet while they try to find the origins of this bell buckle. Oh are so interesting so heartfelt and so funny and I will say this. There is a fantastic payoff. In the end this is one of those podcast us where you will laugh. You'll be interested. You'd really want it to end and when you get to the end you might even cry it is a fantastic episode a great Our our of audio. It's the bell buckle up sort of mystery show so that's recommendation. I can't wait a minute. Okay so Gimblett also has a show. One of my favorite favorite shows caught heavyweight. It's it's hosted by Jonathan Goldstein. WHO IF YOU'RE A long-time listener of this American Life? You'll recognize his voice. He's got a very dry. Delivery style tells very interesting stories. There is an episode called Kinney so each episode of heavyweight. The there's kind of a loose fem- around the show where he tries to right a wrong of the past. And this episode tells the story of stunt men from the seventies particularly eh one stunt man who was a rival of a Canadian rival of evil knievel and most of what the you can still find about him is on Youtube but Canadian stunt man who was a rival of evil evil and sort of had a petrifying fear of a life altering stunt had a sidekick whose real name was Kenny any powers who ended up being loosely the basis of a character eastbound. Down one of the funniest most interesting again kind of story Ori Rabbit holes that you can go on in podcast form the story of the actual Kenny powers and the evil knievel rival. That never really got his. do fantastic super interesting. Listen okay Reply all again Chandler. One of my favorite podcasts. All Time Ah you're a big fan of the show channel. What is your favorite episode of reply off? You had to pick one. There was one where they like went to India to find to find calls scams. Yes right right that was wild. It was harder span. A handful of episodes say like like that in particular was like the first five I ever experienced like a podcast going that hard unity mean you get to the bottom of something But Yeah I don't know I. I like all of them to be honest. So the one episode that I chose for this list that I would recommend people listening to is called the cathedral and we actually did a story on the same individuals. Individuals that are that are highlighted in this story in relevant years ago and it looks at the makers of a video game called that dragon cancer and so of recent offices of the episode is there is a video game designer whose son becomes very ill potentially terminally ill. He and his wife are devout Christians and they are praying for his healing and the way they want to express the journey Through praying for his illness and what they see as building a monument to their faith is by creating a video game and kind of use. The the word video game kind of lightly because it's almost like an interactive art piece that you kind of journey through And they hope that it will be sort of this testament to God's healing and I don't want to give too much away of what happens in that story but I've never had an episode of any podcast you know including discussions with the Yellow jains wreck me emotionally as as hard as that one and also challenge and encourage rich my faith as hard as that one. It's one of those episodes. It's it's really for especially for Christians because it's it's not as it doesn't have sort of I I don't WanNa give give away the ending but it's not what you would you'd probably expect from the outset but it nonetheless incredibly encouraging and I would I would and highly highly recommend people listen to reply all episode the the Cathedral but warning it is pretty emotional A couple more on the list. The I love ninety. I am percent invisible which tells stories on design and House design affects our world but really the kind of the story. It's not so much it's not like a like an art podcast. It's really about the stories behind design. There's a fascinating episode about called Ford Lancia that when Henry Ford decided to build an entire sort of bike bike picturesque American town in the middle of the Amazon rainforest and it was sort of a Walt Disney type of vision for what the town could be and he would build cars there and change your way of life in the middle of these acres in the middle of the Amazon rainforest it tells the story three of his vision and also what went wrong. It's got a story about the Hubris of designing industry but it's also just a really fascinating story about it forgotten place. Ford Lancia sit episode episode of ninety nine percent invisible. I've loved Marc Maertens podcasts. Over the air W T.F. Again as the name would indicate the episode. Does the show does have some profanity entity little little blue. But he did a few years ago along. Sit Down Conversation you know. A lot of his gas are actors musicians. Comedians people like that radiate along. Sit Down Interview. Jay Bakker Jay Baker is famously. The son of Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker and mark wants to really a understand his story and it turns into a story about trauma It's a conversation about faith. It's conversation about doubt it's a conversation about sobriety addiction. It is a fascinating and really moving emotional conversation. Kurdish people. Listen to it. I also Kind of one of my i. I feel like everyone has listened to at some point Interviews with Terry Gross. She's one of my favorite interviewers the host of NPR's fresh air. I love fresh air. But but there's an episode. There's a clip from it up so that I frequently find myself coming back to because as you can tell from this list like we spend a Lotta time doing what I what we try to be a pretty like funny and white podcast but I kind of like digging in to podcast that have some emotional depth sometimes and those are the ones that really stick out to me you know and there was a conversation with John Hodgman John Hodgman is mostly will probably recognize him use a daily show correspondent he played the Mac or the PC and the Mac and PC adds humorous. He's a really funny guy. And he came on Terry gross with fresh air to talk about his one of his books and they started talking about his personal biography and his mother shoe. His mother like him lost lost their faith and towards the end of her life. He had a really interesting interaction with with his mother. That kind of changed his perception of faith. And these are my favorite conversations and it's the ones that we try to bring tea here at relevant but I want to bring about it. Just it's like a two minute clip of this conversation with John Hodgman for the context. He's talking about after. His mother was on her deathbed even though she was an atheist and he declared himself atheists atheists they found themselves frequently reciting the Lord's Prayer Together. Chandler freaking play that clip the interesting part of my mom. Reciting the Lord's prayer. was that she. It was reciting the Catholic Lord's prayer How forget forgetting how it starts? Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be name kingdom income. They will be done on earth as it is in heaven. It's already beautiful poetry. I mean it's just the meter of it is an incredible Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from Evil Ahmen and that's where it stops in the in the Catholic tradition and first of all one of the things I remember as like I love San the word trespassers. Such a great for. I don't know why I I never said trespasses trespassers and the forgiveness in it forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. I'm not sure that I can be convinced that I've always forgiven. Those who have have trespassed against me but this gives me something to aspire to but then it was my my wife then my very new wife Catherine in the room. WHO said it's funny honey? I grew up Piscopo Kalian and we had more and at the end instead of deliverance from evil As Trespass yes Mrs Anyway she would say in the Episcopalian tradition you would add for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory Amen which frankly is not my favorite part of Lord's prayer because it's really worshipful and less poetic than the first part but my mom had never uh-huh set it and now she added it to the prayer which was it? It was an amazing moment. ECON wasn't like an acknowledgement that she was dying when she it wasn't acknowledgement of death. But it was I just make sure glad it was A gift that my wife was able to give to my mother and and to me because I certainly had never heard it before and then Something something we could all share together as an extended family for a very brief period of time. Do you still find yourself saying the Lord's prayer to yourself. Yep every night every night. Yeah Yup pretty much as you can tell. It's another really moving piece of audio uh-huh that I've kind of come back to you over the years particularly when they're talking about the power of the Lord's prayer that even prayer is so powerful that even if you're questioning your faith there's power in those words that You know Jesus told us to recite in your ear. You're hearing the zone review of someone who's a humorous. A comedian get very emotional. When talking about the Lord's prayer and and death and I feel like that's what I've loved about podcasts? Over the years is that not only do they have the ability to tell really moving stories as but I feel like the medium allows people to be vulnerable in a very different way than even even like video does those people when they're on video or on TV or there's a camera in their face very conscious of how they look in and and their mannerisms. There's an intimacy to the oreo format. Where you get to put people directly into your ears? It's just you and them. You know like when you have ear buds and you're the only one who's hearing rain what you're hearing at the moment you're hearing it and I feel like the ability for podcasts. Bring that sort of intimacy but also allow for the vulnerability honorability that people have when there's not a camera in their face is really powerful. I feel like the last ten years has really given rise this medium and I I want to you know do just speaking of the kind of Raisa five years. Thank our listeners. For sticking with US and listening to US and and spending time time with us like it means a lot and we've had a lot of good times on the show in the last ten years and I've really loved the medium. I love doing this show and hopefully more people continue to engage with it. I think it's been it's been really fun. 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Stu Stone | Jack of All Trades

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1:39:20 hr | 2 years ago

Stu Stone | Jack of All Trades

"Welcome to the sports e for Noor podcast, the podcasts were sports and entrepreneurship collide a cast family production in this episode we discuss baseball cards authenticity and Jack of all trades. This podcast exists in large part because of calcium to content marketing business inside cat sourcing. So what does calcium? Do you know how many business leaders need help communicating their story? Will. That's what we do content creation and distribution for business. Leaders this provides opportunities relationships and a platform for you and your business. Why do we do this, because a calcium exists to help business leaders build a meaningful legacy that is worth living and leaving? Learn more by visiting calcium dot com. Today, we speak with Stu stone director of the sports documentary, Jack of all trades. Stu stone is an actor and writer from Ontario Canada. He's best known for his work on Donnie Darko, the boys club and Jack of all trades. Jack-of-all-trades is a documentary that gives an investigative look into the baseball card scandal during the late eighties and early nineties this documentary. Of course, has a major left turn stoop provides behind the scene stories from his time, directing, and creating the documentary to historic growing up in the card collecting era. Let's not wait any longer. We welcome Stu stone. In the movie, and I think it was early on. And there are some pictures, and they're showing maybe your family, and maybe it was with you and her friend, maybe one of your friends, and maybe your sister, and you had a bills hat on. It was that was that you. I was a bills fan as well. I mean we, we don't have NFL here, so we have the bills and of course, the bills. I'm broke everyone's heart four years in a row. So tell me about it. I don't think you. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's crazy. I mean you guys almost got the bills. I mean, there was that when the bills got the peculiar peculiar bottom. Bon Jovi was in there. And I know they were trying to get them to Toronto. So I remember and you mentioned it in movie as well as Joe. So I remember remember what grade I'm we're similar. I'm a little bit older than you. But I remember being at my friend's house, and so I- rooted. So I went up one of my friends was actually his his father lived in Toronto. So we would go up once in a while we'd go to the SkyDome and my dad was in Indians fans and I, I was in Indians fan tube, but the Blue Jays were. Right. So you're younger and I'm just hopping on a bandwagon, whatever. But the Blue Jays were fascinating, 'cause we went to the SkyDome that is awesome stadium. I was there one time early on the opened the stadium up during the they close it during the middle of the game. But anyway, remember exactly where I was and I didn't I was born and raised a Blue Jays fan. So I can't imagine what it was like, when Joe Carter hits the home run to win the World Series like you remember exactly where you were. Also, you goes it was unbelievable. I was actually radically enough. I was selling t shirts outside of the SkyDome for that World Series game. And we had all these boxes of like Blue Jays World Series champion, teas that we had the guy that I was working for he like ordered like tons of them, and they were all we were all laid out ready to rock and then, like the Jays down, and is the ninth end, we start packing up all the stuff to get the hell out of there. Right. Yeah. And we're like packing up the trucks in refilling the boxes with t shirts, all of a sudden Joe Carter hits the home on, and it was like madness, like I think this guy sold like, you know, twenty thousand dollars shirts in like, you know, a matter of minutes. But I just remember the atmosphere was unlike anything, you can imagine. I mean you've seen celebrations. On TV and stuff. When you know, cities, go crazy when they win a championship right? This is like in Canada, like a polite version of that. It went on for hours in, like, the, the streets were just flooded with people, and it was the best man. It was such a good feeling. And it's something that you remember forever. And it's interesting because now we're a little bit older, but, you know, we speak so funny of that Joe Carter moment, and there's like kids today. The like don't even know what we're talking about. Yeah. It's crazy to me, because like when I was a kid. I remember stuff that happened before I was born. I mean I don't remember it but I know of it like I knew like. Right. I know stuff that not the Beatles are I know who the stones are. But there's kids today. I don't wanna be, you know, angry grandpa. I don't know. Joe Carter home run. They don't know who Novon as they don't know anything. No, you're right. I I'm fascinated by that. It's funny because we have people in our office and know John and John helps me at he edits a podcast. He's involved with our marketing company and all that. And we always make fun of him because he doesn't know any movies like pre assert, they don't know any movies right in its blows my mind. I'm like, what didn't you don't know breakfast club? Like you've never heard of it, and then you just name a bunch of them, like, we'll go some movies. And maybe I didn't see some of them, but like, you know, airplane, and you kind of go back like it's right of passage. But like you're right. Because it's like Joe Carter or someone else winning the World Series or winning some pen and or just players Ted Williams. I mean like I never watched Ted Williams play. But I certainly know lots about them, but yeah, it's fascinating that you went there with that. Well, it's interesting because because, you know, nowadays, there is, it's an information age. And you can know anything in look up anything in instantly watch C. Learn anything you want is at the tip of your fingers on your cell phone on your computer on your cell phone on your. On your on your phone. You can look up. We come era where that didn't exist. And I feel like we knew more. Yeah. That's that's insane. It is. Well, it's like I'm watching your movie yesterday, and I'm on IMDB because I'm dislike all right? We're was this person is this. What were they, I'm trying to learn about you, and, you know, and people that were in the movie because it had forgive me. Because we've, we've covered a lot of different names, but your friend who was filming a movie. Yeah. I mean like he's done. A lot of it sounds like videos for songs right like tunnel. Yeah. Yeah. And it's crazy. And it just it just goes like this web of information. Obviously, it's the internet and says web but it, it truly is web of information that is just endless. And it doesn't stop. And so I guess like you also have to pick and choose what you really going to focus on. Right. It's, it's incredible. You don't meet. I've. To me, it's like, the, the fact that you can like, give in this day and age, you know, if you can think of something that you remember even vaguely seeing on television as a kid, you can look it up, and it's on YouTube. You know. It's, it's, it's insane. And you know I love it. You can go, but you can also fall into a trap in waste your entire Dave going into a black hole of all that. And you look up six hours have gone by you've been watching, you know, all old WWF matches from nineteen eighty eight it's, it's crazy. It is could miss the good stuff too. So, like your documentary comes out and I don't think I was looking at baseball cards off because I'm sure you've seen this. The baseball card industry is like rising up again. I'm sure you know this, but, and you would know more about this stuff than anything else, and it's kind of an fascinating to watch it. And I've pulled out a lot of my cards and I want to eighties nineties and get into that a bit too. But I think I was looking at up, and I came across and I saw the front cover, and I was like, what's that is a jack-of-all-trades. And I'm like that looks cool. I gotta learn more. So I just caught my attention because I was in this little web Weber it was on Twitter. I think it was the first. And I saw it Instagram. And I was like, well, there's a trailer for what is that all about? And I saw the chiller, I'm like wanting to watch that like that has to happen. And I reached out to think on Twitter, and then on Instagram and talk to people, and they're like, oh, that would it was just trying to learn about it at first. And I'm like I love to interview someone from a part of that. Like you talked to Stu, and Stu, and he's a director of like, wow, this is really cool. I really need to dive into this. And, and sometimes, though, it's hard because there's so much out there that I'm like people need to see the people that not everybody needs to see every movie. I'm not that way. Right. You have to have these unique interests, if you grew up in that time, if you follow sports, or any of those types of things, and then you have like this life of family and you understand relationships, and there's a bar mitzvah involved with it, and there's just all this stuff. It's like whoa. That would be I just know so many people that would totally dive into what you created. But we'll they will they will, and that's the part of like being on a podcast and get it out there, but. I think it's hard to ship. It's hard to stand out and we know it because we create contests. There's a sea of there's a sea of, of stuff out there. I understand, you're saying you're asked to ocean of says that you could make to spend your time and kill your time. And, you know, like the harbor, you mentioned earlier to give him credit on on the poster art for Jack of all trades. Is it came out, really beautifully? But I think like that poster kinda hits you in the court like a, you know, and hits you in style Jada rate in the nostalgia, you know, if you don't even know what the movie is in your finger, you're skimming through, and you see that in your from a certain era, you're gonna stop and look at what that is because it's gonna it's gonna hit you in the centuries. And you're going to be like, whoa, that's a pack of baseball cards, the threat. It absolutely does that. And I think that's that was important to get there to get to that moment. But then when you get to the movie, you go through the emotions of all of it, and it starts with baseball cards, and I want to ask you this, because, you know, people sometimes see a movie and they expected it to be one thing. And it turns into something else. And I think sometimes it's I don't know if it's narrow-mindedness I don't know what it is that, but most of the time, a movie or our story, there's multiple things happening in that, you know, I was like, what just whatever like randomly what comes to mind, I was thinking, like Titanic Titanic's about a ship sinking in the water will there's a lot more than this actually about relationships. And you know, this love story or whenever fever pitch, come to mind because baseball or whatever. And it's like well, it could be about the Boston Red Sox. But again that was about relationships as well. There's always has to be these underlying things, and I saw some reviews on there in a lot of great reviews, but in Anchorage, you on a podcast say, like there's going to be haters out there. There's going to be haters for everything, and, you know, screw whatever, but I saw there like people were like expecting. Just baseball and they get into. And it's like no, no, no, you're getting hit with more than just baseball because my wife who's watching it with me. She doesn't really doesn't know anything about baseball cards, and she'll watch sports here and there. But the relationship aspect of it like she was almost talking to the TV when I think your sister mentioned at, like, I think you were there and they were talking about, we're going to get we're gonna get him in front of your dad, and she was like, oh, no, no. You can't do that. You know, and it's like there's so much going on with that. But people some people are like with just want it baseball. What's been the reaction where this way deeper than just baseball cards? Even though the baseball card industry was a huge part of the movie. Listen, I was one of those people at first I wanted to make a baseball card movie. So I get where they're coming from in, you know, if you know I mean in, in the original cut of the movie that we turned into our, to our distributors. It was a twenty minute longer movie in those twenty minutes more baseball. You know, I covered, you know, I, I really went in deep in learned a lot in figured out a lot about cards. But, you know, once we started sort of handling in cuts and stuff and the family aspect of the film, was just still powerful in amazing in the people. You know that we were sending in. Rough, the rough edit of the movie that we sent in like people were crying watching a rough edit. It was crazy. And so, you know, everybody we had contractually. We had like a time limit on the amount of Runtime of the film. They wanted it to be a certain amount of time. So for whatever reasons they could make sales to television or whatever. And so, we had to make some tough decisions, and ultimately wasn't that tough decision in the end because the family stuff were still compelling that, you know, there was just enough to, to satisfy the baseball card people. But there's like a broader audience out there for people who didn't even collect cards. That would just watch this on the level that it's like a, a human interest story. I guess. You know in a perfect world. There'd be a lot more baseball cards in the movie, but it's an imperfect world in it's an imperfect sort of story. So it kind of fits pretty well. The people that are disappointed. I don't know what to tell them. I mean, I think that they should I don't know what movie they watched harlot, slept more. I can do because he no. I you go has the movie services, you know what they're looking for. And then some. But like you said, you watch it for the baseball cards, your wife watched it just to do something if you and she probably ended up really liking a help. Yeah. At in, if you'll find as word of mouth can grow in organically. This thinking grow, the hopefully be a lot more of that. I think you see it, though. Like I watched the trailer. So you saw, there was a moment. I, I saw the trailer awhile ago, but I believe in the trailer, there's a point where things change in the trailer. And there was something about. Right added that was in there. So I knew and I love it like I'm when she wants to watch rom com or different. I'm in all of it like I like and I think it needs that because it's not as compelling. I would've watched a documentary on baseball cards. But that human interest story like you just said, that's a necessary thing for that movie. And clearly they all saw it, and it was probably different for you and unique for you because it's like on a second. Yeah, I'm all in the human interest story, too. But this is my human interest story like this is the world seen what happened to me. What I had to go through that. That's, that's like we talk about being, you know, you have a podcast, it's just conversation. Like I said earlier on, it's just real people. And I think that relates more to like all this can't stuff and overproduce things it's like I dunno. I want to see like what really was going on. It's like we've seen all the games before what are they thinking? What are they thinking off the court off the field? Like what's the true -ness of this because we want to cut through the BS and get right to the good. Stuff and not necessarily it's good. It could be good. It can be bad. It can be sad. It can be all those different things. But this is a human interest story that you had to showcase. No, it's, it's, it's a wild ride man. And for me was something that I never thought that I would ever dress in. Now, it's like the only thing I talked about it, navigates. Yeah. In something that was very you know, kept inside. And now like everybody sort of seen the story in you'd be surprised. How many people hit me up that have that it affected them in when they went through similar things in it made me kind of realize that. You know, I think I've said this before, but, you know, any problem that I have, or the you have or anyone who's listening to have the most complex problem that you can possibly imagine. There's hundreds if not thousands of people out there that have the same exact thing going onto them on it makes you realize that there is no problem. That's the that's unique. You're right. That there is other people out there going through going through what you're going to. Well, and, and you can, you know, you're not alone in no matter what you're going through. You're not alone. I guess that's my point. You know some of the feedback we got. Negative feedbacks you know, you're, you're not supposed to look at at at. Your filmmaker because there's always gonna, you know, people use the internet to say they don't like things not that they like things. Right. And so you know you can't help yourself. You read the negative stuff, too, but, you know, people need to understand that, that, you know what my sister like a little a little spoiler here. Excuse me. My sister ran over my card collection. Right before we went into, to right before I went into Chicago in sell the car traffic in a lot of people are like I don't know about that. In reality. It was like a one hour argument that took place in reality, in, in, in the confines of eighty five minutes story, it has to be edited to, to be able to, you know, or else, not scenes, get getting cut out of the movie, completely in when you see me with those can say go I was with him for two hours. You saw three and a half minutes of that conversation, that's edited. So, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's remarkable to be to that, you know, people don't understand the play filmmaker I suppose, but when you really think of it. You know, they'll giving too much away to people haven't seen it. But, you know, the stuff that happens at the end of movie that, that that, you know, the situation that I find myself in that's really motion. It's crazy. Kind of thing involving my father. You know, not only did I have to leave it there. But I had to live it over and over and over again because you, you know, movies just getting started after union. You put it together. So it's like living with that innocent. It's, it's I didn't just do it. Once I feel like I went into that hotel a thousand times, because I had to live with that footage in cut. It in watch it in see it in note in cuts in, like so many times add to go through it that I'm almost like you would think that I would be, you know, sort of immune to it now at this point, but it still gets me. I can watch that I haven't watched the movie in a little bit. But I can watch the movie two hundred times would still get emotional for me at certain points. It's, it's a really hard hitting movie in some very. I'm proud of. Into pair to other work that have done. It's definitely stands out to me is like one of the craziest things I've ever put out there, and I do direct other films direct these horror, movies and stuff in there like popcorn fund movies in this is not that. This is definitely not that, and I feel like I can confidently recommend this movie to anybody. Whether they liked cards or not, because I think there's something for everybody in it, especially if you're of a certain age, if you're over, if you're like over the age of thirty you're gonna find something that you like in this movie, I have a feeling I hope anyway, I, I'll, you know, we're fighting in that vast sea of content that's out there, you know, we are a little tiny dinky in the water. We're not on the Titanic. We're not on the huge boat. We don't have huge billboards flyers banners. We don't have like one of those by planes floating flying over the beach that just goes back of all trades. So, you know, getting guys like you who, like it in one of your platform to help us spread our word. It's amazing in. It's truly grassroots in independent filmmaking at its best. And thank you for being a part of that process. You know what I mean? If it wasn't for you in, in other guys. Thank you guys, like new podcast and stuff. Corky. Smaller projects now bombs in movies, you know, stuff like that wouldn't even no one will know about it. If it wasn't for guys like like you. So, so again, I wanna thank you. You know not not blowing smoke man. I'm being honest here. I appreciate it in don't ever think that what you're doing is not important because it is because guys like me wouldn't be able to get our message out if it wasn't for guys like you. And I and I don't know how I even got to that. No of the beautiful. That's a beautiful thing about podcasts in everything that you're talking about. I mean it's I f I we love it. We love entrepreneurship. Right. A lot. I just love it. I love talking to people that have his entrepreneurial tendencies that get out there in this crate something. My mom was in artists, her mom was an artist and they can take a blank piece of canvas and create something from it. I see the same thing with it. If you're songwriter, if you're performer if you're a director, if you're an actor, it's like an SEM business, and that's why we love doing it. Having these conversations in the conversations are like I said, use the word before dynamic they go. Directions there. There is no set way to do it. Like I can ask you questions, and then we can go take it down all these different paths. And, and I think what it is too, because I watched you walk into that hotel. And I did not have that experience. Right. I have my parents are still together and I was very fortunate in that. And but there's always things going on. There's always relationships. It's just you have this extreme example. And I in a way lived with you in the movie because I'm lost. Right. All my signals hordes of backwards are not a part of that. I'm just in the movie. I'm Emma part of that. And I love living those experiences for that hour and a half or whatever it is. And I think you can learn a lot from it, even if it's a standpoint of having a conversation with your kids or your family, your parents are or whatever that might be. And then it gets into the whole the podcasting element of it. Yeah, there's these incredible. Like you said, Titanic, and it was extreme examples from a movie or whatever that might be. But it can live in small little spaces as well. And your movie doesn't have. To go on to win Academy Awards or any of those types of things that can just be what it is, and it can grow from there. And it can create these new opportunities in it sounds to me like, man, we all learn a lot from it. But you we've got to watch you learn a lot from it. I mean, I was like, I don't know if he's going to go and go on with this, and I don't think anyone would have said like no, no, no. I'm not meeting him. I'm not every, you know, again spoiler alert all that kind of stuff. But I don't think that even matters. It's like you know how certain movies end you still watch it right? Exactly. What's going to happen? It's a true story like this is what happens at the end of it. You still have to watch it because you have to watch the stuff play out that conversation like I figured when you and your sister gotten that argument that you didn't just walk into the hotel or whatever that building that was in and you're just kind of like you're cool now. No. Like there was definitely more that went on, and you have to understand it, but I guess the question I would have is when you have that situation, or you have the meeting because I was gonna ask you, I wanna talk about Jose Canseco because of course he's an icon of that generation as. Needs to baseball cards. You have that contact you have that footage. And in the world of social media is TV and YouTube, and all these different Facebook, whatever you want it to be. You could share that content. Or are you not allowed to share that backed up footage that you have of those scenes, I watch it? I've actually been thinking about that. You know, like the Conceico interview specifically, you know, it's like a I was almost two hours in it's amazing. And I was thinking it would make a great podcast is to like release that. Yup. N wasn't just Conceico. I interviewed a lot of baseball players that didn't that didn't get in the film, unfortunately, but I interviewed will Clark. A bunch of guys and a bunch of baseball card companies to there's like so much baseball card content that didn't get into the film that is actually bringing that up recently. It's funny you should mention that about, like, hey, we've got all this great stuff. We should do something with it. There's a whole other story line that got eliminated from the movie involving upper deck that I'm dying to tell that story. Yeah. So who knows? I mean listen, if it's up to me, I'm, I would do it all day long. I mean it's just a matter of finding a, a partner that that's interested in, in, in going down that road with me as far as the incident in the hotel. I would say, like we weren't making a movie. I can't I I don't know that I would have that would have ever happened. You know, I don't know that I would have ever done it. I think like subconsciously. I know you know, even when I'm in there it's like I know that there's cameras rolling in. So it's like even though I'm president. I'm there in the back of my mind. I'm also thinking, like, are we getting this? This is like crazy, which happening. So it was it was a surreal experience in the in the now it's real. Yeah. I I you can tell me just the way you even talk about it today. How you dealt with it. Then, you know, and maybe this is a spoiler question. So someone can fast forward at I'm curious what your relationship is today with your dad. Unfortunately, not much has changed. Which is sad because you would think that something like that would be enough to spark something to change. Yeah. Maybe have spoken to him in seen him a handful of times in the last since that date in the times that I did seem like random accidentally in not much has changed. Unfortunately. I don't know whether he maybe he won. I don't know. I really couldn't tell you, man. Yes. Fresh in snow, part of it. Might even be me just not even being interested anymore. Right. You had that vomit in now is what you get with it from there. We get it in. It was it was. It was moment that we had in. We'll always have in its even in a movie like watch it. Yeah. But. I don't know. Man. It's tough. It's yeah. It's a weird situation. If I in. In Hollywood, there's like a big, you know, everybody gets back together. Turn real doesn't work like that. Now, I'm feeling well you had this. You had the note. No. I don't even know that he is seen the movie to be honest with you. I don't know that he even realizes what the movie is still like he's just like. He lives in a bubble whether you'd have to get out, he would have to get outside of his himself to even like think that way. But like hearing, your ankle, talk at one point towards the end, like he maybe that's something that some people are not capable of doing for whatever reason, and I don't even know if someone could psychoanalyze, why and talk about the holocaust and. Because that was brought up. And obviously, that's a big deal and just team. I don't know. I finally got upset when he's because like an excuse type of thing and. So lame. Yeah. Right. You're not you would never like downplay that as the holocaust was was. But to, like, bring it up. You're like. You know, you just Laney said, it's very this other full, you know, you'd be surprised because there are people have ridden me that like. You know, again messages all the time from strangers that have watched this in. So there are people that have wrote me saying, like, oh, no, that's a real thing. You know what he saying Israel there? So you should show some compassion in it might be very well. Might be a real thing. But right. Well, it's. Story you I to say this it's the story someone tells himself in in, you know, that might be the most one of the most extreme things that we could talk about. But whatever story you wanna tell yourself about that situation that you say it enough times, and believe in it because you can look at it the other way and say, man, how lucky am I am to be here in the United States are earn candidate should are in Canada in North America, and I have these kids and I, you know, you could look at it from a different perspective of gratitude of lucky -ness of these because the odds were he shouldn't be there and you shouldn't be there. And so it's like would you like maybe say it from that angle? But again, there's so much there's so much play there. It's hard. Just like being around like I have met fuse, I have nieces. Like I can't even imagine how do you not want that to be a part of your likely cooking? You just like walk away from that in not. Doesn't make sense to me, how someone can do that. There are people that can do it. So that's, that's what I was saying earlier. It's like it's a common thing. Unfortunately, you know, parents, not everybody's a great parent. You know, there's people that, that, that can that can flip a switch his walkaway crazy. It's, it's, it's quite sad actually, but it does exist in hopefully, a movie, Jack of all trades can help brighten, shed a little light in dark place for rather people who have gone through similar circumstances, and maybe make them feel a little bit more at ease about, you know what what's happened in their life in where they were taking them if you can take something negative in turned into a positive. That's always a good thing. And you know, maybe I went through everything I went through just so I could be putting telling the story, you know, I wouldn't be talking if my dad doesn't take off you and I never talk. Right. Right. It's the yeah. It's like. Serendipity involved with it and housing's happen. We're butterfly effects, Kennedy, yet, you know. You know, Marty MC fly goes in his time machine in some changes you know this didn't you and I aren't talking right now. So, right. Every happens the way that it's supposed unfold. Any disorder after take life as it's dealt to you. So you go back in the documentary showcases the bar mitzvah and yeah. The happy time the man becoming a man in its Jewish hair. I was bar mitzvah. My son was recently. And you think of it and read muzzle tell. Yeah. Thank you. But you think of it as men. This is a very happy moment. This is you look back on it. You just you think about it. You talk about it. You are doing that same thing. But from a standpoint of I don't want to say it was like no one died and it wasn't a funeral. But it was almost like that was it? That was the moment that you guys were a family, and that it wasn't anymore. And that is mind blowing to say because you said I think you said it was a week later, which just I mean again, we're going back to that part. And this is this is the hard part. But it's like that's just it's just I guess you use the word before surreal like an a really bad way. But that the bar mitzvah, became this point in time, and you are so happy, and you're like. You're, you're right. You're this actor interview, and you're not scared of anything you just talking to people left and right. And having a blast and people are smiling and then boom, that's it. It's pretty insane. Just to think about it, but, you know, the crazy part of you little bit of insight, you know, in the regional cut of the film, there was no bar mitzvah, footage. I didn't even know that we had that barmitzvah tape until I went back to the boxes ended in the boxes in was like, well, what's this tape end? So we didn't even have that bar mitzvah video that changed the whole complexity of the movie that finding that video in watching it. And if you ever get a chance to like, you know, watch the movie again, which maybe you will maybe won't, but now that, you know, what's happening in the ending is gonna be blown away by what just that barmitzvah tape. It's insane. You, you see you can see just watching whenever those tapes, come on. You could see, like my parents, what's going on. There was one clip that they showed and you're like he was eating. Ng and you were talking, I think I don't know if I think it was your mom, and they showed a clip and it was half a second one second. And you knew right then and there. That's it makes sense because you guys have explained it a little bit already. And then you knew he your father wasn't in the whatever in the picture by that there's something there. Like maybe it's just like one of those names or like it's not real. But know that looked pretty real even in his speech, she like alludes to some shady shit. You know, it's like there's just crazy stuff all over the place in the people that were at my bar mitzvah. We had all these heavyweights of the baseball card industry were guests at at my bar mitzvah in. It's like the same guy that I interrupted at his table, at my vice like I saw ran into a car. Joe twenty five years later in the same circumstances, like just interrupted him with a camera in. It was like insane. Like just the is just crazy. You know, it's like when you watch there's really, really good documentaries out there in, like thanks to the, you know. Thanks to platforms like net flicks. People are getting this Z, a lot more documentaries because of that, you know, it's like documentaries about a huge resurgence over the last five ten years because of, you know, the culture has shifted in people are into dot documentaries. And, you know, the really great ones, have like insane left burns that you don't see coming and now that I've done it myself. We have an insane left turn in our baseball card movie, you know, I, I can I can probably guess that, like the film gods were probably smiling on those production suits. Like it's like some sort of force of nature knows you're making a movie in, like knows what's supposed to happen. You know, for him to just show up out of nowhere is insane for us to find that bar mitzvah, video is insane. It the whole thing is just crazy. It's just crazy. It is well in it, there's there's, there's the left term. But then there's these other little turns that happen. So we saw before. Right. Because you see the picture of you talkin Jose Canseco, and I have quick question. I have there is. So how did you get Jose Canseco? How did you get a set up a meeting with him in Vegas? So we went we reached out basically I made it like a dream list of every baseball player that I would want to talk to and about baseball cards in it was, you know, Billy Ripken in Jose can speeco. Don mattingly. Todd van Poppel and funny names that I compile the list of people who I remember Kevin moss of people who had Mark Maguire. Whoever had a huge rookie card or was big in the hobby, at that point. And we had, you know, one of the guys who worked on the film Jordan, who's, I think he's in. He's used to be in the movie, a lot more. But he's still he's still made it in a couple of scenes, but he you know, he started reaching out to these players to see if we could set up interviews, end Jose was was all over it. And I don't know whether I don't know if other is hammers agent, but somebody was all over it yet. But when we when I first got to his place, he, it seemed like he didn't really even remember that he had booked this already eat had no knowledge that we were supposed to it was really weird, and he was very standoffish at first, but, you know, obviously once we got to talk to him by the end of it. He was like, what are you guys doing later? Let's head. Turned up to like a great guy and, you know, I think that someone like him that is as polarizing as he is. He probably has his guard up for a reason. You know, it's like these guys, these big time celebrities you enough. At one point. No one was bigger on planet earth, than Jose Canseco. You know, they have to have their guard up. There's so many people who are in their lives that are just not there for the right reasons in, you never know who's real, and who's fake, and who's trying to use U news, trying to take from you and who's a hangar honor. And probably a ton of that knows as life. And, you know, he's generally speaking, the lightning rod for controversy, as it is, you know, he wrote that book in whatnot in, you know, I know he's not the most beloved player in baseball anymore. But, you know that doesn't none of that matters to me. I'm a fan of baseball end. Yeah. I'm disappointed that my heat all piece of shit who did steroids. But, you know, I, I certainly look watching home runs just like everybody else did. Right. And I, I loved screaming at the top of my lungs, when, like, you know, Jose, hit that fifth deck home run in the SkyDome that you probably might remember, might not yet. Bob Costas said that the Blue Jays have a better chance of coming back that Elvis has a better chance of coming back in the Blue Jays. And then Jay Z ended up coming back beating Oakland, thanks to rebuttal, Alamar hitting homerun off Dennis Eckersley, but that's conversation for another time. The good one. But I remember Jose, and I remember the high deposee and he still looks exact same does not look like you know, you go to card shows and you see comic cons in a lot of heroes from the eighties nineties. They look they don't look anything like themselves. Jose looked exactly like Jose. And you know, he's he was awesome. I think he's just like a misunderstood guy who sometimes on the netted post some weird crap on Twitter. I don't know why he does that. But, you know, whatever the case may be my experience with him was amazing. He autographed a bunch of stuff for us. He will so cool. You know, it seemed like he didn't really want us to be there at first in by the end like he didn't even want us to leave so kudos to Jose Canseco and thank God Jackie decided to be in the movie because that's a huge get furrow. It was big you guys showcase at the front end. But in new I could tell because I think when they when it went to that scene, there was like some awkwardness at the beginning. I think you needed to play that out. And by the advent, he's like, making a phone call for you. And that's the twist and turn because you just said it like you made this lesson you reach out to people. And that's what you can do this day in age. You could have done it before. Now, a social media. It's no different than us reaching out to your people on Twitter, Instagram. And next thing you know, we're talking on the phone like that doesn't happen. And then, then there's this web, that like you talked about before that leads us next off, and you have this. You have a meeting, and you walk in, and you gotta see foul ball, Paul. Right. And you go in there. And that, that was the that doesn't happen unless I'm have that list of yours. Then you've talked to Jose, go have a great conversation. He's like, I'll take you to that next step because I think that was nuts. The dot start getting connected. It's it Paul is truly remarkable situation in it's like the polar in a lot of ways. There's a lot of similarities between might me growing up in, in south L, Paul. He's got health conditions that, thankfully, you know, are under control, but I didn't go through that stuff. But as far as the baseball card stuff goes, you know, my, that's what my house look like growing up. Yeah. Had the same the same thing but his crazier. But you know how about Paul in his father. It's such a it's such a it's such a compelling thing and is at is just like the opposite, my cat. You know, he's just like this great dad, who sacrifices everything for, for Paul, and it's he's there for Paul in, like you, conceive Paul's. Hobby of baseball cards is like overrun than at families entirely existence their houses baseball cards. I think they moved. Recently in the from what I understand it took like two or three moving trucks, just to move his card collection when we were doing some screenings in the Toronto area last last year, the. Foul ball pollen, his father and his mother came into Toronto. And before the movie, you know, obviously, no one knows who they are. So they just blended in beautifully, and at the end of the movie, you know, we came up to do like a cue innate type of thing, and I told Paul to stay in your seat. Don't worry to stay in your seat. I'm gonna make sure that we're gonna do something special. And so people would ask, you know, I waited for the inevitable question to come about like my dad, they'd be like what's up with your dad, and I would be like, well before we get into that. There's a really great father who's here right now. Ladies and gentlemen, foul ball, Paul and his dad or higher in stand up in the place like exploded, how people went nuts all Paul has had some, some great shine because of this movie, and, you know, if you've seen him on his social media, he's not shy about saying he's the real star of this movie. But, but Paul is a great guy, and I'm so happy that I got a chance to get to know Paul and his family. And, you know, it's I, I wish more people see the movie more people will see what I'm talking about. But foul ball. Paul is the world Guinness world record holder for the largest baseball card collection by person, not a business and, you know, he's a great guy. Happy, go lucky guy who just loves love. He doesn't for the love of the game not for the money. Yeah. So of Pol is not lost on me in when I went to go to a place. There's a place called Burbank sports cards, which has this insane warehouse of baseball cards. And, you know, even that guy, he's so such a nice guy, rob Perez is his name that, that runs that shop, and he's just such a happy guy in Tom guidance in the guy who created the Ken Griffey junior rookie card another guy. So there's just. There is, you know as negative as, as people think that this movie could be about baseball guards. It's, it's not because although you, do you know you learn things that are not illegal, but definitely unethical. You see that there's a lot of really good, solid people that were in the industry in continued to be in the industry in the hobby in, in, in. It's a really cool thing. It's a really cool thing. What is because the a lot of industries are littered with bad real estate insurance. You'll see it with marketing insurance in all these different things in there is bad, in in that one just happened to have a bad time period, but going back to calls dad, you made a comment to him while you sit in, I think it is kitchen table. You're learning a little bit about him and us just were so impressed by the father that he was in obviously you show that throughout. And you showed it at the event that you were just at any kind of looked at him and told them just wanna tell them what a great father. He was and say it and he's, you know, he obviously he said, he seemed to have gotten that a lot. And he just felt it was. So weird. Like what else would I do? You know, it was like, of course, I'm not saying, I'm a great father. He's just saying. I just this is what I do like this is my son, and I care for him. And I will do anything for him. And that was an important part of the movie, I believe, because you had the, the other side of it is well, yeah. Right. Yes. And that was a touching moment it was, I don't know. Fascinate. Imagine Paul's life if. Yup. You know, if his dad wasn't like that in his dad was my. Where would where would Paul be? Now who knows. I wouldn't even like to think about that on, right? Yes. To the baseball card industry is, you know, like we were talking about before, I remember a couple of things I remember going, you're living in the city of buffalo. Get on our bikes lewd, scrounge up coins in a little bit of money. We would ride our bikes down the twenty four hour store on Elmwood avenue. And we would by basil hers, we come back we do. Soft we play football. We do whatever we didn't we go back and they it would be there like three or four times a day on the weekends. And we just collected and traded, and it came across new cards and eighties and whatever that would have been. And but that time period, of course, a lot of these cards in plow. My father grew up in Cleveland, and was a diehard Indians fan and his family was, and he had all the cards and during the movie I'm thinking about it again. I'm like, I remember the stories of my dad telling me and my grandmother saying they threw all of his cards away, his card collection. He said he just had mountains of cards. That was what you. Guys, then got into in the movie that cards from the fifties in the sixties in like end even the seventies, they don't exist anymore because my grandmother and I love her. And she, you know, it's like they don't and she wasn't the only one they all did it because they're like my dad used to tell me they used to put it in the spokes of their tires of their bike. You know, they play it and they flip the cards. I mean even if they still had honestly, they're probably in horrible position. But that's explains in that in that in that created this bubble that allowed people to turn into a billion dollar industry it because of that exact thing that you just said. First off, believe it or not when I was a kid. I was a huge Cleveland Indians fan as well. So it might one of my favorite players was Cory Snyder. I don't know if you know yet. Oh, yeah. I had a rookie card in my vocal. I, I didn't I didn't burn by Cory hundred car today. But I, I was a big Indians fan, but anyway, you just said, it's kinda spells out the entire thing. I mean it be aided a perfect storm for an industry to be born on hype and speculation because those cards from from the baby boomers who want to go back and relive their nostalgia. They couldn't find the cards because they either were thrown in the garbage or their shit condition in a Mickey Mantle rookie card was all of a sudden selling for thousands of dollars in the baby boomer's knew that they paid five cents for pack of cards said how could it be with five ten to twenty thousand dollars? So the, the, the, the blooms sort of starts taking place because people will think, oh, the Mickey mantel is worth twenty grand because it's Mickey Mantle so Don Mattingly, he's gonna be the next big thing. Darrell strawberry in Jose, Canseco and Mark Maguire Roger Clemens in Kirby Puckett. These are all that. It's the same thing, but it's not because is soon as you educate somebody. To collect something it's no longer rare like everybody who pulled a Virginia rookie card out of the pack of eighty nine predict the first thing they did with it is put it in this case or put it in a plastic. The you know. So that means everybody who has a kangaroo Virginia rookie card still has ended in good condition and it's not. Somebody's got one can go on EBay. There's like ten thousand listings for. You know that's not an insane thing goes with comic books. You know, it's like as soon as you start seeing people by comic books to read in one to put into a plastic bag with a cardboard backing, you know, it's over because everybody's got it in, in good condition. So now the baseball card industry is sort of corrected itself in, in a in a funny way that they now create the cards in order to be scarce in all the cards are autographed now in it's a whole different world in the, you know, there's no ninety nine cent packs any more right now. It's very, it's a very business business the speculative like you know, you're, it's almost like the lottery, and it was then too. I mean you open a pack and you hope to get like a valuable card inside. Right. You can make traits. Your friends in the Beckett would come out. It was a lot of way. It's a lot of an entire generation of kids learned about business from baseball cards. You know, in its some, you know, some people learn from drug dealing. Diva. Learn from baseball cards, but literally a whole generation of kids that grew up trading in buying and selling in in learning about, you know, business from from from a hobby, like baseball cards. So yeah, I mean nowadays, it's, it's, it's a whole different ballgame. But, you know, everybody is soon as any everybody starts collecting something, it's over. Yeah, it's too much too much of a thing is not necessarily a good thing. And in cards today has changed over in, you're starting to see it 'cause if you pay attention out there, you're seeing the value of a lot of these cards, basketball players. For example, there is the they got the prism cards. I think there's confusion because I think it takes anybody to educate themselves to really learn it to understand, like, what are the different options that exist out there? I mean like you said, they're creating scarcity, so you open up a pack. They're pulling out thousands cards out of these packs, possibly now the path like you said doesn't. Cost ninety nine cents. It might have cost. It's still cheap relatively speaking. If you get to the return on a ten dollar fifteen dollar pack to get a thousand dollar card is pretty good return, I would say, but how many of those did you have to buy to get that, but the like how do you how much of the industry today? Do you understand? Like I saw your sisters your, your sister's kids, your nephews. There collecting they're very into it. What are they collecting today? There endure daring ju- hockey cards in baseball cards basketball. They, they really love basketball now because they guess the Toronto Raptors are a really good team in. It's, you know it helps it helps and I think that there is a perfect storm that for, for there to be a surge in baseball cards. But for different reasons than what Gary visas, I believe that it's there's like a perfect storm here that, that history could repeat itself in a way that, you know, we are now the same age that our fathers were when baseball cards. I exploded onto the scene. So now. We wanna go back in look back for our shit that we had, when we were kids, that's gonna be kangaroo junior in Jose can say going, Don Mattingly, Mark Maguire cards. So it's the fathers could go back looking for those all over again in bring their sons and daughters with them. And there's a whole new crop of players much like what we had, when we were kids who are these amazing incredible crop of rookies in athletes that are on the scene right now. I mean in baseball, you have such an exciting batch of of talent. You know, you got your Mike trout senior, you know a Bryce Harper rookies like Latimer Guerrero junior in kunia in there's just so many good players in Aaron judge in there's there's, there's a whole crop of exciting players in all sports right now for kids to, to sort of gravitate towards end in Oakland cards is something that, that is that bridges the gap between generations in just the same way that fathers in sons were collecting. Yards together in the late eighties that sort of doing doing the kids were doing something that the father did when he was a kid in so dot was a bonding thing for them, and it could happen again, you know, it could certainly happen again. I know my nephews are definitely, they're up on their old school stuff. Like in my nephew's bedroom. He's got posters of Bo. Jackson in Michael Jordan on vet. Yep. That's amazing. Yeah. So, so he gets it in my other nephew has Dan Marino stuff on his walls like these kids weren't even alive. When these guys were playing, which is what you're talking about. When we first chatted right when I start chatting that, like, who are these guys whose Dan Marino, like all these great quarterbacks in for my money. Dan Marino's one of the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen in, you never wanna Super Bowl, but that doesn't make him any less great. And I hated him because he was with the dolphins. I'm a bills fan. You know drafted to the bills in refused to come to the bills. That's Jim Kelly, Jim Keller Kelly refused eventually got their same draft. That's the eighty three quarterback draft with Elway Marino, and kennel, Brian all that. So, yeah, it's do you think with history? And you mentioned Gary v. Because you're right. He's talking tons about baseball cards in Houston, that similar gender it same generation, and he seen it for the nostalgia. And the fact that sneaker game is too hard to collect all that kind of stuff. So I definitely think he creates tension to the story of baseball cards. But you had mentioned like not for the same reasons and, and you start talking about that with history, repeating itself because history repeats itself as far as the good of collecting baseball cards. But do we get to that point of? Well, we could overvalue the cards again. We could say this, this Jaanus rookie card could be worth ten thousand dollars or three hundred dollars. Whatever the numbers become right? Does it become like oh that could become overvalued again? And it's a piece of paper. And it's for whatever reason, people are like, because the market says, I don't want to buy it down the road like they maybe wanna buy for the next three to five years. But what happens in ten fifteen years, and I'm like, I'm not interested in that anymore. Right in a lot of these, it's such a speculative market that, like, you know, a lot of these rookies don't ever pan out. You know, it's like they don't come what you think they're going to become. I think it's crazy. The, the values are, are some of them are just insane. And, you know, I can go up on EBay, and I can list a rocket Ishmail rookie card that bought for ninety nine cents for five thousand dollars and I can put, like ten listings up saying that is five dollars. Dollars. And now I can try to sell it for five dozen someone who looks at up on EBay. We'll see that it's five hundred dollars. Yeah. Like there's all sorts of nefarious things you can do. I'm not saying someone should do that. Right. But I have noticed that there's a trend of seeing these worthless, old kind of common cards that are selling a who's buying it. Yeah, no idea in. It's like there's listen, there's gonna be shady, whenever there's money involved. There's going to be rats. You know whenever he's involved. There's gonna be rats is a better with saying it. There's nothing innocent, you know, whenever there's money involved, but you'd like to think that, you know, I think that Gary v's talking about I would love to talk to him, by the way, I've tried tweeted at him and his heart. You know like. Lost in to see him tweets. But, you know, it's easy thinking on financial terms that, you know, you can buy a rookie card, and it's going to hold its value in two good investment. Maybe you'd have to get a lot of things would have to go right? Imagine twenty years ago, you bought a bunch of Jose can sake rookie cards. Never mind. The fact that, you know, forget pretend that cards weren't over produced in stuff like that, at it really was this rare thing. And then what happens twenty years later like Jose can Saco? It's he's, you know, they did all these steroids or whatever. Now, nobody cares. These guys aren't eating in the hall of fame. A whole generation of players is not even gonna get in the hall of fame in the other thing is like, like, what we talked about to open up, this conversation is like who's to sit the people are even going to care about that in twenty years, kids aren't gonna argument. Not even know who, who is players are or care the industry. Away. I mean there is right now right time is right now the people who care about Bob feller rookie cards. That's like your dad's age said that generation is slowing down in not. I don't think they're out there trying to like by Bob feller cards anymore. You know, so who knows, you know, hopefully, Gary B is right? But I like to think that there's a chance for the car and hubbing come back because of the reasons that I said, which is, you know, there was a stall juror for the parents in there's a whole new crop of exciting players for the kids in in. It's a bonding thing that your kid is into the same thing that you were in too. And that's the thing that makes sports so cool to begin with, you know, the game of baseball is still the same game that we played when we were kids in that our parents, when they were kids, and so, you know, your father takes you to the hockey rink to watch hockey. There's like a bonding thing there and baseball cards. Is that same that same thing? Yep. No, you're, you're absolutely right. I think it comes down to exactly. First of all, on the sports aspect of it. And we've talked about that all the time, you know, sports don't sort matter. Maybe because they don't matter because you can create these relationships in these opportunities to show up to an event together sit at a bar together at a talk about it on the board to hang out with each other. You know that that's why we can have these conversations. Is this common ground? It's the ultimate to me. It's the ultimate icebreaker. We could talk about Joe Carter. We might never have met each other, and I say, Dzhokhar, do you next thing you know, we're talking for two hours and it's like it's fun. It's exciting. I do think that regardless of what anybody does. It's like when you if you want, you want to be in the movie industry, you go make a movie, but how much time and effort you have to put into all the research that goes in, if you want to invest in the stock market. Yeah, you could throw a dart against the wall and pick a stock, and go for it, and maybe it worked out for you, but the research matters the time you put into it matter. So if you're going to be like a Gary v he's sending the time talking to people researching thinking through it coming up with his own ideas just like you said. Oh, I want to buy the rocket Ishmail cards. I'm going to go on EBay. Wow. This with five thousand dollars. Well, if I can find it for four thousand dollars, then I'm good. And you're like, well, you didn't do enough research that you really have to think through these things. That's why the SEC exists in the securities industry. So people don't do these things. So maybe I don't know if there's enough money. There is obviously a big industry for the baseball card industry to have so or Carta sports card industry to have regulation behind it. So this stuff doesn't happen. But then, then you start getting over policing because the Securities Exchange Commission has done that they over police, these people, they, they can't even get on Twitter and say anything, and they weren't even talking about the stock market. And they're like, no, no, no. You can't say that. But, like I can't be a human anymore. So there's extreme there's, there's polar opposites going on here. But I think if someone were to like, if my son came as it, Dan, I really love sports cards of it. That's awesome. And there's two sides, right? You can do it for the love of the game. Or do you wanna make something big of that? You wanna make some money off of this. If you do you got really educate yourself because you. And I remember those times where we would trade cards than you thought, you got the better end of the deal, because you really knew or you didn't, and vice versa, it just it's like anything else, you have to spend time learning it and understanding it, and I think that's where it could work out. But like you said, no matter where there's money, there's going to be shady, people around. You know that's happening one hundred percent. I mean you could almost make parallels to what was going on in the baseball card business in the eighties early nineties to what's going on with bitcoin today. I mean. And I'm not here to like, started that conversation, but, you know there's unregulated into wild wild west. So there's nothing legal is just unethical in so you can do whatever you want you in get away with it. And I think that's what was going on with the baseball card companies to like they weren't necessarily breaking the law. But, you know, if it's true in there was Ken Griffey junior cards, still being printed, ten years later, that there's something wrong with that, or they were just printing Canada Virginia rookies in that's it like running sheets of Griffey's, which, you know, some people say they did that some people, they didn't do that depends, what you believe but just the thought of that happening, what's to stop them from doing that. It's like essentially they're printing month me and lets you see that a lot. There's a lot of parallels with the, you know, would crypto currency in other things, you beanie babies anything, if anything where there's like a craze. You know, I remember cabbage fat kids like being the biggest thing, you know, it was like Furby as I mean, you can anytime that there's, like massive demand for something. You know, you've got to imagine that the print is gonna just keep keep rolling. Now you look at cabbage. Patch kids, I remember. I don't even know how we got the on this wormhole. But I when cabbage patch kids were like the biggest thing in, you know, I was raised by my dad, who, who when he was in my life. You know, collecting was like embedded in me. You know. So I was like a pack rat of collector, which is partly why we've been made this movie to begin with because when they had found the boxes of my shit from when I was a kid. I knew there's going to be great stuff in there. We got a film this because I knew that I collected just wasn't insane collector and even at that young age. So I just I remember Kavak fads kids being such a huge thing like you couldn't even get one. And now if you go back to buy cabbage patch kids still in the box. You can get one for like thirty bucks. We didn't go, you know, it's like it only mattered in that one period of time, it will never be more important than it was that one Chris. You know, when, when everybody needed it, and it, it's, you know, tickle me Elmo. I don't know. It's like I can throw it a million samples of, of, of crazies in hypes in baseball cards happen to enjoy a nice run of, you know, almost almost a decade of that in not just a Christmas. So it was a really a perfect storm for everybody. You know. It's crazy. I if you want, if there's anything that you want from your childhood, you could go on EBay by still in the box you're more than likely already lineups and all those like, or any toys, at, like you said all the different toys that you get after. And they're playing off of a lot of movies have come out like the arcades the Reckitt Ralph of the world. Right. You go back in time. Like art. You know. Just. Wow. That brings up memories. And it's like you said it's nostalgia effect in so I can see it, and I can take my kids to see because they can get something out of it from their side. And then I guess, you know, then everybody wins in you know, the movie they're making a lot of money off of that. So, yeah, somebody is. Exactly. Yeah. So you're you create this, first of all, like we said, you set down, this path of making a movie about baseball cars. And sometimes when you seek to go down this path other things come down. But when you put yourself out there and things can happen, and you did that. But like putting yourself out there forget, even if it went down the path that it did right with your family and all that. But to make something to create something from scratch because I'm fascinated by that as I build a business from nothing and other people like I said before you song writers and artists, and all these different thing to put something out there that people, then I it's not to get into what the review say it's just being willing the willing to do that. We need more of that. That's what you know, our families came over here for better opportunity. Better more freedom, the things to do different things, the immigrant mindset if you will, we need more of someone like yourself, and I think even the businesses that were creating that's what we need in this in this world. Now. And in it's not to like, let's go solve the world's problems. It's not that it's just I get excited when I see someone like you do in what you did. Did you see that when you started creating this documentary like, man, screw it? I'm going to go put myself out there and wherever this thing goes, I'm going to go on this journey, and there is no like and game to it. It's just to create this piece of content that, you know, your, your nephews are going to have it their kids who knows who's going to get to see it. I might see it someone in the other side of the country gets to see the world gets to see it and they get to learn something from it. Did you think about like putting yourself out there and put it on this blink? You know, put in the script out there, and I even a scripted the documentary. But did you think about the think through those things? I mean you nailed it. I mean that's exactly what I was thinking is like. You gotta put your stuff out there. It's like people people. The one thing that people crave days authenticity in when you can get a glimpse of, you know, nostalgia is one thing, but often this is a whole other thing. And when you feel like you're watching something in in, you can be immersed in something that is giving you an authentic experience. Then you're gonna win. Everybody's gonna win the audience is gonna win to storyteller is gonna win. Nobody wants bullshit anymore. People crave that authentic that authentic experience, and, and I wanted it to be a real experience to, you know what I mean. And in I, I know you know, I'm not like some stranger that a film company came up to and said, hey, let's do a documentary. This is my idea, you know. So I, I knew what I signed up for. And, you know, even though I was not exactly planning on going down the path that I went, you know, I know at the end the day that that's what that's what's supposed to happen. You know, you're supposed to sort of follow the clues that come along. Yeah. In just go with it. And you know, I think that's what we got here. And I think that hopefully there's more guys like you out there that watch it in connect with the way you did end in next in winning. In in. That's, that's what this is all about. I love watching. No. Do you watch? You know, even like making murderer or, or any of these like Netflix documentary, I have I you know, I saw one and I was just fascinated by, like this word minimalist. So there's this, there's a documentary and I didn't watch make I know which one you're talking about I have not seen that. But talk, my documentaries, it was called minimalists and I was just interested in the topic, and I just hit play on it. Right. Because it's just you're looking through stuff. And I was like, oh, that caught. My attention. Let me watch it, and it was like raining on a Sunday morning. And we just had everything going on. So I started watching it and who's fascinated. And, you know, you come to find out they had a podcast and they had a buck, and they have these stories and you get to learn about other perspectives, and how you know, they have again, I use the word extreme example of like getting rid of so much of their stuff. But there's something to it of like holding onto the right stuff and they got rid of a lot. But anyway, it's it is that and it was very true in real because they brought their families into it in his one of the guys in his, he had this relationship with his mom, you know, there's, there's tears in those real. It was their story. They were just happened during that just happened to happen during the filming of the documentary. And that's what happens. It's incredible. It's like it's like I said, like the film God's that's a real thing. It really happened to me in, so I can attest that, that is a real thing that does happen. And maybe it's also a part of like letting go of stuff in. Healing, or some sort of I don't know. I don't know the word I'm searching for, but it I love those, that's, that's a beautiful moment when stuff like that can have. Sure, and, you know, I think that. It's just a difficult situation for me too, is like we were making this movie and even my mom, like, we had a bit of a, a rough patch when the movie, I was started coming out, because I don't think she realized quite what she was signing up for either and, you know, so there was a little bit of like uncomfortable this within the family when the movie was first starting to play. And you know, especially for me like like I said, this is something I've never talked about before. And now it's like out there and now it's like all I'm talking about in. It's become it's been good for me to be able to talk. I guess, but it's still shocking to me when you know on the local Toronto. TV station here. They were running commercials for Jack of all trades, and it was, like an Jack Eisenstein. And what Bannon his family. Like what? Yeah shit. I mean that can't be out there like that upset I was like, how can they say that? And I'm like, well, wait a minute. That's kind of what we said in our moving. So, right. That's why. Yeah. So it didn't it's real life. It's different. It's different than a scripted movie, desserts. Real life in a real life onto quences in no way, different perspectives around it all on. And you, you open the curtains a little bit, and let this thing get out there, and it is going to change some stuff. Right. And then you just becomes like you said, you're dealing with it all the time now it becomes a part of a part of you. It's on there. I m d be it's part of one of the things that you've created, and then people can have perspectives of it for however they want. However, they want to think through it. But I mean but but that's it because it's not for everyone. We always say that, you know, if, if you're creating a business, and you're trying to sell a product, you can't possibly even apple iphone right? They create this amazing product. A lot of people love analysis on a lot of people don't. Like it and they go Samsung, but you can't possibly sell it to everyone not everyone is going to like it. You create it for the right person. So I come across it. I really like it. I watch it. I bought it on, I tunes, so I own a now, so I can watch it and I can sit down and my son. And I when we have some time I want him to see because I think it's a really cool, you know, and other people and they listen to podcasts in other people, and they might who knows. Maybe they don't like it. Maybe they do like it. But that's okay because that's what it's supposed to be. You know, they can listen to this podcast and they could've turned our podcasts off ten minutes. We like this is boring. I don't like it. Okay. That's fine. And that's why you keep doing it. You can't possibly like everything, you know, there's so many different options out there that exists in, and you've mentioned will actually go into this real quick. Putting this out there. Right. And you're having these conversations and people are talking about it has has more come about. Have people talked to you has this has this piece that you've put out his documentary that she put out lead to potential and that was not the agenda? I know that. You can just tell that, but is it lead to more opportunities for you? We'll see that that remains to be seen, but I can tell you that it's definitely. You know, I've had crazy stuff happening since, you know, Jeff Carlin who is from current news. Yasim the Goldberg. He he reached out to me saying how much she loved the movie in, like I never met that God. Or in now. He's like, hey, man. Get anything. Here's my number. That's cool. Yeah. Cool, stuff like that is taking place. But also, you know, we've been there's been a couple of movie companies that have hit us up about doing some other stuff. You know, the shame for me is that and hopefully it will open up more doors. I think that like a lot more each to happen in order for that. It's a really be impactful in that sense. I think that's just where people will have to see it. You know, it's been eight out of ten people who have seen it like it. So that's good. That's good. But, you know, I think I think more is going to need to happen for. It's really have like a approach down impact on my career. I think we're still in grind mode, as far as my, my, my me and my brother-in-law, we have we ever company, five seven foams were still very much in grind mode. We're still working, asses off and nothing is not nothing. -sarily has been made easier as a result of this movie coming out. But I think it will help in the long run for sure. And you know, it's a quality piece of work. So how could it hurt? No. But you keep mentioning that you built a business from scratch like I'd love to know more about that. Well, you know, it's funny, too, because you just mentioned it and I wanted to I wanted to get in this. I don't wanna talk about that, too. You mentioned five seven films. Is that your height? Is that is that what it is? Okay. And my brother-in-law happens to also be five foot seven okay. So you guys are both running. I love that. I mean because you just created it right. It was just like this idea that you had. And you put it out there. I mean I figured as much senior next to Jose Canseco who's just a monster of a man at noble. So I the company that I started it's been six and a half years. It's called Kazimierz and before I was believe it or not in life insurance brokerage and what I saw in the insurance industry again from Buffalo New York. My grandfather is Niagara Falls and him and his brother were general agents for John Hancock. John Hancock insurance company longtime ago, my grandfather passed away way long ago way too young, but has been like an icon in our family. A lot of people look up to him. And you know, came to school in the south and Charleston, South Carolina moved to Charlotte North Carolina. It's like what do you wanna do? I love finance. I wanted to get in the finance face. So anyway, moving forward, I kind of liked that was the dot com era. And I kind of saw something like this. Weird because I just keep hiring people at this very large company and it was almost like the boom of the baseball card industry if you were to come in at the end you're like, hold on a second. There's way too many Griffey cards out here. I was like there's way too much happening too much good too. Many people are making money. I didn't know anything of the time. And sure enough, the bottom falls out the dot com era ends and all that. So going forward. I get in the insurance industry and built my career doing personal production in life insurance, and then eventually got recruited. Join this large brokerage company, some years later and, and did that for nine years and had a great run of it. But also realize that I wasn't running my own thing, I wasn't an entrepreneur wasn't doing on my grandfather did or what my father did in western Europe, which is he ran a dental practice and built a business and got really into the business side of things. And, and so I always knew I wanted to have my own business, but I had to put my time in, like we were talking about research, and put your time in and think through things and things change in my business, changed hands and private equity groups got involved in and living in Charlotte, North Carolina at the time it's some years ago, the banks were like, and they still are, but it was a banking place in everybody worked for. The Bank and I said, I will never work for a Bank while living in Charlotte until I woke up one morning, and one of my clients called me up. You sons of bitches. You guys just sold yourself to be in t-. And I'm like, what are you talking about? BBN tease big Bank in the southeast, and next thing you know, I worked for a Bank literally overnight, and I know control over that. And I was just, you know, this is this was the beginning of the end for that, and changes were happening. So I built my own company castle. It was a life insurance group, but I realized early on. And I knew this for a while I studied marketing love stories and all this. I'm like the storytelling the messaging all that in the insurance world is just bad. No matter what angle BBB to see whatever angle, you come at it from I thought the messaging was bad. So I wanted to create content, and I wanted to tell stories but I wasn't going to create like a Buffalo Bills blog or I'm going to figure how stay fan, create Ohio State. I just didn't want to do that had been done already and I love sports. So I talked about sports and I talked about business and I read about it. So I was like, well, why don't I write about it? So I started writing about sports and business and create analogies and just all the different intersections that live at that kind of like we're talking about here and what your. Movie is intersection of life in sports and sports cards and all that. So we started writing about, and creating content, and it became a wait a second. You what do you guys doing there? I thought you sold life insurance, and then it was like they were confused at first, and then they said, well, can you help me out creating content from my business, and we're like, so we started doing that. And then other people took notice, and then people saw that it's like that web of things that just start to come about. And then all of a sudden, we because of that we built a marketing company on the heels of it, knowing that disruptions happening right disruptions happening in a lot of industries that happened in the baseball card industry, and certainly happened in the life insurance industry with technology and just the changes with data availability. And so anyway, come of that, the marketing company grows, and then we started venturing often forming relationships and partnerships with other groups. Create this venture company where we're just worked different relationships and different groups and different organizations, help them create revenue for their business. So castle again is insurance group has got a marketing company. We got these different ventures that we built out at sports e preneurs that platfo. With the sports in the business align. And we've the podcast and we, it's called entrepreneur perspectives and the sports he preneurs has a podcast and really what it is. It's just can we create amazing content. Can we work with people to, to help them feel optimistic about where their businesses going because that's what it's all about. And it's just, you know feeling compelled to help other business owners help other entrepreneurs and you see a story like you have, Stu, and you're like, wow. This resonates with me before I even saw it, it resonated with me. And it was backed up by one. I did see it, and it's like, well, let's tell that story. How can we tell it soaring? How can we help that person? And it's it is that pain at four thing. But you realize that if you do enough of the right good things. Good things we're going to happen. You know, usually and it's just I want to have these opportunities to create and business and create could be strategy. Could be a business deal. It could be truly right? In article, it could be doing a podcast, but we want to do it for us. And what I learned from that. And then help do that for other business owners, whether it's on a podcast or working with them in their business and the team that we've created here. So. It's a blank sheet of paper and it's just man. It's just a lot of fun. I my mom, like I said, was an artist. I'm not at artists in that sense. I have, you know, she's got a banner rate rump sitting in my office right now. And she took this blank piece of canvas and she created her, you know, she created this amazing piece from that. And I want to do that my wife write some songs, and, and you can take a blank piece of paper and you can write a song from and I want to do that. But I want to do it in business, and I want to do it in writing and podcasting. And like I wanna Ford myself the ability to continue doing those things for many, many years. And it can change right. It could be dynamic. It can it can it can morph into something different, and that's why you keep showing up every day because you don't know when that happens. And I see that with what you created is you keep showing up into the movie world and all the soften, you got tons of changes in Hollywood and all that. And then one day you like I showed up because I had this idea, and then you get into that idea and then idea becomes something else, and it fascinating and people need to be a part of it. And when I can see it from if no one else, even listen to it, and I just saw it, I'm like and I'm blown away by. So anyway, that's probably the long of it. But yeah, that's what that's what it became. And that's why we have conversations like this. It's really really awesome. And it's firing for sure. And I think that you're doing good stuff. Sounds like you're you also like like what you do. Which is like the best about it, right? Yes. Kind of important. I think. Doesn't feel like work. When when you like what you do. Yeah. And I think that right now in in the world in general, like, you know the bad guys are on a run right now where, you know, the bad guys have been winning for the last couple of years. It's been it feels like the good guys are not winning too often. So there will be, you know, it's gonna happen in the good guys are going to be back in your head of the curve. So I think you know, you're doing it sounds like you're doing really great things in, in helping out. You know, the little guy, find a big voice, your voice for the voiceless. It's really cool. That's really, really cool man yet. Shaded and you know what? It's we say all that in it's up and down. It's a roller coaster is. I'm sure your movie was like it. You saw as you live the movie, but like the production, and it's like this. Oh my goodness. And maybe it will never even air this movie. And this is all sorts of crazy stuff happens, and then taxis and comes along, and you're like, oh my God. And then some days you wake up, you're like, why am I doing this again? And then you have to remember, like why it is you show up and have good people around, you always have to have these positive people around you and I felt like you had that you had the people that they weren't just, yes, people. They were calling yourself out and you were calling them out and it's like, but then you had this support group. And I think you need that in a way all the time and making sure you have these right people. And you also podcast became so big for me. Because at the time before I started the business, I was like getting in my own head, and I was thinking through things, and creating these negative thoughts. No, I can't do that. And so I started listening to podcasts, and you start with a little bit, and then the more. And then, then I was like, wow, this really helped me, and then I was reading a lot, and then I started listening to books a lot because. You have to fill your head with the positive noise or just good stuff, not just positive stuff, just strategies, ideas, thoughts. What other people doing biographies, whatever that might be? And it's like watching your movie get outside of your own head. What is foul ball polyps you, right? Thinking about those types of stories. What did you have to go through with your family, and then just just in business? So, like I appreciate you saying that, and I feel like we are doing a lot of great things. But, you know it's not without its struggle. There's no doubt about it. And we don't try to pretend it. There's a lot of the stuff I create actually Kramer with article on sports super neuro was like, there's a lot of self talk in what I put out there. It's not just I'm not a motivational speaker by any stretch. I'm not telling people exactly how to live their life or how to run their business. I have ideas and thoughts, and we can think through it, but a lot of times, I'm just like cut put it out there, because it's what we need to do in our business or what we're trying to do and our business. It's a pursuit. It's not like some endgame of like, oh, I figured it out. I'm gonna tell you exactly how to live your life, and all I've just I think we're all trying to figure that out, right? Hundred percent. I mean, I think we're all looking for answers in that goes back to point you're meeting about, like everybody, you know, any problem, you think is unique to you is not unique everybody. This hundreds of thousands of people going through the same thing. Like you said, you had some inner doubts in your own self, you started listening in hearing other people's stores in realizing that you're not alone in there. Ways that other people have been countered. It in dealt with it in its hell it helped you, it's, it's, it's very much a lot of serendipity in this entire experience that have been on your show here. I think it's great. I mean, what your I I'm, I'm a firm believer that you've got you've, you've got you've got it right meant, and hopefully that will rub off on me. No, I'd love to stay in touch more. I mean, no doubt. I mean suggest add before we got when we started talking that I felt like I knew you, because I got to see you and action under so much more to you. I know of that. I mean just you being a part of the scene. I mean it's such a fascinating seeing that you ran of your in Toronto, but it's the Hollywood scene as they call it and the movie industry. And you said Netflix that was bringing this up before, and we can get you out of here, too. But where are we going with all of this with apple? You know, I bought the movie on the I tune store, and you have Amazon prime and you have TV shows I talked to young people now. They're like, no, no. I don't watch movies. I watch TV shows because I can wash it thirty minutes or forty five minutes at a clip, and I can watch a series of them, but I can stop it and the things changing so much, and you know. Probably more than than any of us here would know about that. Like where, where do you think we might be going with the whole industry, the movie industry and just Hollywood in general system, pretty scary future, for a lot of people? I'll tell you that. It's not like it was when we were kids, that's for sure. It is evolved into, you know, people are entitled now but their entertainment, you know, it's. They go watch whatever they want when they want how they want, you know, there's no more appointment Ewing. Like you wanna watch the show. You don't have to wait 'til Thursday to clock. You can watch it whenever you want. And, you know, in also, like I said earlier, like look up anything on YouTube, and just watch it. Or you could, you know, if there's a movie, I'm thinking of that, I wanna see I just search on the apple or on I tunes or wherever else I'm gonna find it eventually and be able to watch it on Netflix or wherever else, it wasn't like that back in the day. You know, if you wanted to watch a movie back in the day, you'd have to go to the video store in spend ninety minutes figuring out what that whole like. That whole scrolling through Netflixing defined what to watch us to take place, you'd have to getting your car and drive through a place to do that. And that doesn't exist anymore in the importance of, of a movie. The, the Delphi of a movie in a song is not the same as it was because of that this instant gratification, kind of era that we're living in, you know, back in the day you when you were a kid, you could watch the same movie one hundred times, you know, in in, that's because you're not right. But you still did it. And now it's not like that anymore like a little kid has an ipad can watch whatever the hell they want. Or if a song you loved, you'd have to, like, wait for it to come on the radio. Or else he worked at a heat it doesn't work like that anymore, obviously in salt. Used to have songs in, in used to have movies that transcended pop culture. In had a long shelf life. Now a TV series that you used to have to watch over the course of six months on NBC. You can watch in over the course of six days by just binging it. And then it's over in. So doesn't have that same kind of cultural long-term impact that it would have back in the day. You know, it's, it's, it's quite interesting. The big movie companies are not making little movies anymore, they'd rather make one adventures in make a billion dollars than swing at, like twenty movies and try to make that same amount of money. You know what I mean? It's like the days of the Honda dealership are over. Everybody wants to be Ferrari dealership where you only have to sell one car to keep the lights on, and that sort of what's going on in the movie business right now in his far as television goes, unless you're doing sport. You know, sports will always be good because sports you have to watch it live or else. It's not. It's done. Sports has X has an expiration date of you know, you're not gonna watch last week's game. You know what I mean? You're gonna watch it live. That's it. Unless something spectacular happens when you watch the highlights. But what does sporting event happens? It's done once a WWE smart. They run their show live every Monday night. So they're still appointment viewing there. If you don't watch live, you know, you, it's different than sports in the sense that you could watch it. I suppose the next day, still get experience. If you wanna see what's going to happen. It's live. And you maybe they'll be other stuff like that as far as television goes, but does definitely adjustments that are going to have to be made or else things are going to change in a very drastic way even more so than they are now it's a great time for independent filmmakers, like myself and others because of the fact that the studios are not making as many films anymore. They're only making ladies, huge big budget. Superhero movies, you know, not everybody wants to watch a superhero movie every week. So there's room for everyone, you know, there's going to be new content. Yep. So guys like me who can make movies. We're gonna have places for to for them to be seen that they never would have been able to be seen before is there, so many more options. Is a little wishy washy men? But no, I get it because it's the two sides of it. Right. Because it's like well, one side it's like man, we're just taking everybody out of it. But then at the same side, we've kind of cut the middle person out a little bit. Maybe there's still some middle people because you got get it onto the different platforms. In order to view it by you have an opportunity. Like you said, if you're willing to put yourself out there and put some effort behind it and make a good quality show program. What movie whatever it might be. You do have a chance whereas before it's like you had to pitch it to the studio and the studio, it'd be like, no. And if then then what then you didn't have any other options? It's just the whole business also like a whole generation, that's way younger than us that, that not only do they not know what nirvana is Joe Carter is, they also don't know what it's like to pay for something everything. They want is free. They wanna hear a substance free. They wanna watch show. It's free. Everything's free. And you know our movies, good. Because the generation of people that are attracted to my movie doesn't know how to watch a movie free. They'll go to ITN's downloaded like so that's a good. That's a good. Because your movie right now is not unless I missed it somewhere. I don't think it's free, right? So I paid ten dollars. Let's say on I tunes for it, and I don't have a problem with that. I'm like a photo gone to the theater and watch it would've cost me fifty dollars. But are people going to be reluctant to do it, because it might cost them four nine nine or ten dollars or twenty dollars to wall, Jeff nation growing up that will not pay anything. No, I get it. But I think all these things survive. It means because of advertising or subscription. Like, who do you know that clicks on holidays, nobody but ask, but that's the issue in, in advertise in the marketing world? It's like there's actually very large businesses that actually still put their money behind it, as opposed to get in on Instagram or Twitter and truly triple down on put all your money there or whatever platform. It might be wherever your audience may be as opposed to like you said, like, buying a banner ad for or billboard for that matter for how much money that costs. And it's ridiculous because it's completely overpriced. And like you said, not clicking. It nobody's click. I don't know anybody would ever do that. But also a I'm sure there is somebody who does, but I don't know them. But I think like history's going to repeat itself, too, in the sense that like back in the early hade in the early inception of television. You know, TV was made as a means to make money from advertisement advertising somewhere along the course of it things changed because the quality of programming in the story. Telling in the talent sort of superseded the advertising. In people watch, you know, the, the mindset sort of changed in people wanted quality in, like they wanted to win Emmys, Nostra's and stuff like that. But, you know, back in the day, like you look at a game show like the price is right. The entire show is a commercial for whatever products are on there or soap, operas, recalled soap operas, because it was like created by the, the soap companies were paying for those things to be made. And even children's cartoons back when we were kids can transform GI Joe great shows, but those are owned in made by toyed companies in order to sell you toys, and I think you're gonna see a lot more of that come back like branded content is going to have to be a thing, again, more than ever because, you know, as broadcasters are shying away from spending big money like somebody's gonna pay for these projects to get made. And, you know, I'm lucky that I live in Canada, where the, you know, and I lived in LA for twenty years, and I still have a place in LA. So I'm not I'm very versed on what's going. On L A. And I wish I was there right now. Believe me, it's pretty cold for may here in. But my point is, is that, that, you know, in Canada, the Canadian government subsidizes the arcs. So there are, you know, there's grants in those programs in there's ways to get money to make your movie here that don't exist in the United States that I'm lucky that I was born here. So I I'm able to like access those now obviously that's not my goal is not coming here in make movies on low budget movies on grants. But that is an option for people here, but not everybody has that option. So I think you're gonna see a lot more branded content in, in probably your company's going to do very well heading in that direction. If you can wrap your head around this in a certain way. But if you know there's gotta be, you know, I know like beer companies are making movies now. You know, there's you're gonna start seeing a lot more of that type of stuff. A little bit like I've seen golf tournaments like the masters and it was unin erupted. No commercials because they had the sponsorship, whoever that might have been one of the big insurance because somebody when they would just put their logo everywhere and kind of became it or like you said, the beer companies coming out in they're producing the movie your Chevrolets gonna come out and they're the ones that are, you know, funding the whole project in. It's one like you said, it's one big commercial inside of the movie. That's a car is the. With TV, if TV ratings are down that means advertising rates are down, which means less. People in also everyone can like DP beyond DVR thinking, fast forward the commercials yet so there's gotta be you know, this industry was built on advertising. And if you take advertising out of the equation, then you have to have a Netflix model where people are paying you as description fee to watch your stuff itself. Yet is your movie go on Netflix. At some point of view talked about it. I would hope I think that, you know, Netflix is different ballgame. When Netflix, I came out, and they were transitioning from being a company where people were sending DVD's through the melon sounded like a terrible idea, and they started going into streaming. They were begging for content in it was like they were paying big money in begging people to put their stuff on that flexing, obviously, that is change. Netflix is built their own empire. And now it's like they hold the cards, and so, you know, rather than them taking on my movie. They would rather. They would rather spend two million dollars in do their own movie. You know, it's so who knows ultimately, I'd love to end up Netflix because then a lot more people would see the movie, but, you know, it's not really my call make the best movie ever. I don't doesn't I'm swimming in a different swimming pool than they are at the moment, and, you know, they're making they're making him buying big budget. Glossy suffered lots of coats of paint on it, and my little bit more DIY in referendum edges. So, like I said, if there's a word of mouth in some organic thing that snowballs that makes this movie become a thing than it'll. It'll hopefully end up on on Netflix. But you know, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen with it may be what it is. And that's what it is in good. That's okay. But that's the journey yet. You're on with it. I think people should watch it. I'm gonna absolutely. Tell more and more. People are gonna watch it again. And like I said my son watch it in. Tell people listen to this in give it a try. And like you said it, it will become what it is from there. And you put it out there and just keep doing what you're doing. Man. I mean in and we'd love to stay in touch, and learn more, how could people? So I bought it out. Like I said, I bought the movie jack-of-all-trades on the I tune store. I think you can buy it on direct TV you could buy on Amazon Amazon prime is that how people should watch the movie. And then how can they get in touch with you or your studio? Yeah. They can definitely get the movie through those streaming platforms in Lincoln help us greatly by leaving reviews wherever they got it, whether it be, you know, Amazon, Apple itunes or on. I am db that, that definitely helps our algorithms, but I am on social media. Have Twitter Facebook, Instagram Stu stone. S. T U, S, T, O, N E, but jack-of-all-trades has a great Instagram in Twitter page in Facebook page, I love it end. A definitely suggest anybody who is indisposed in general to check it out. But jack-of-all-trades I think it's jack-of-all-trades on Instagram in baseball card. Doc on Twitter jack-of-all-trades the movie on Facebook, but we post every day, a new baseball card with a little fun tidbit. It's such a fun, such a fun page. So, hopefully people will you. It's hit us up on their, you can also hit the are the are tireless PR marketing strategist Matt advised seven films. Your set the interview up in he you know, he's like Jerry Maguire got the goldfish, and he's got us. Yeah. He's awesome used very easy to deal with got done. Yeah. Doing believe me, he's been doing tireless work trying to get the word out on this movie and it's not been easy. And, you know, I even in the baseball card industry, there's a lot of, you know, I'm sort of like public enemy number one to a lot of companies shouldn't be in, you know, it's like certain companies, I don't want name that they're not really thrilled with me or the movie in, I think that's stupid because machine embrace it. Because first of all, anyone who works at that company. Now wasn't even there win on any of that stuff went down early the industry's a different world. I'm talking about stuff that up in twenty twenty five years ago and second of all unwinding people that they loved baseball cards yet. So thing, I'm like, making them want to go look for their car nine percent out and start to collect. So they should be embracing this in. No that like this was not meant to be a smear piece by any by any means. This was made from with heart in love for the hobby end. Even though I did what I did to my collection, no spoilers. At the end of the movie believe me, man, time is passing. I've started getting right back into it as like he can't great attention. You created great awareness around it. And you just that so you are collecting again. I'm not be. So what are you? So what cards like Salonga to go out today? There's actually baseball card store literally like out the window across the street in this like plaza. Whatever you call it. And he opened up a year ago. I think it's Charlotte sports collectibles like so I'm going to go to historic say, what packs today, or you buying older stuff, or are you, I I like the older stuff, just as like what I'm into. But obviously, like outstanding stuff how I don't know how old your kids, our son is. But, you know, if there's like you can pull really cool stuff out of the modern sorry about these things all your, the modern current product has autographs in really cool stuff of their of the modern day. There's definitely there's some cool stuff to check out there. But, you know, the old stuff that you want is so cheap that it's just so fun. You know, I have boxes of eighty seven tops in nineteen eighty six cards in his open them in in. It's, it's amazing. And I have, you know, I don't have a huge collection. I get at one point have praised Clinton, but I made decisions that. For the better good of, of, of making, you know, my story, but I've gone back out and reacquired ability Ripken card that has the profanity on the that of a good one. Reacquired nights eighty nine project set of got Griffey junior, you know, I'll I mean up actually look right now. I've got votes for the love of the game you're doing it. It's not necessarily purposes. I've gone out in Don Mattingly, rookie in Saco in y'all got its it's cheap and you can go to a card show in walk around in, you know. All that old stuff that we were do is there's only a few vendors that even have it. Yeah. In so exists out there, it's available, you can touch it. You can feel it in. That's another thing if this generation, it's good that we can end on his old man red, which I think we started this conversation with an old, man rent, but kids today, everything is files music is a pile. Everything's a file movie is a fire a baseball card is a tangible thing that you can hold in touch, and feel immerse yourself in, and I love that, you know, back in the day, we go to the record store. You have to buy a record. You've lived with that represent you reading via notes in the book lady, you don't have that anymore. And, you know, I think that's why you know, a lot of vinyl has become such a huge thing in, in the same thing could happen for baseball cards. I like to say in a wax is the new vinyl. Yeah. Hell is there's going to be in. That's woman out, you know, vinyl records. So you're right. I mean it's like those things that you, it's not a file anymore. You actually have to have the player in the in the needle and the whole thing, and that's no different than the wax. And maybe we'll start putting bubblegum in there again, but no, I think you're spot on and I mean, I'm just honor that I was able to have this conversation. I think it's so cool. I saw I saw the movie yesterday. I agree with you. We'll put in the show notes the different social media accounts, they can click on it, make it easy for them. But. It's absolutely right. You know, I think back, you have I think one of your posts in the last a couple of months or whatever Eric Davis, Eric Davis. I have all this car. It's Ricky Henderson rookie card is my favorite card. I love it. Like I love Ricky Henderson, every time he came up to bat. I'm like Ricki Henderson's off the bat. I gotta watch. He's about to steal another base. Whatever reason, like, I remember that stuff and this stuff brings that out, but it's got the other side of it, too. So you could have zero interest in baseball cards, and it's just it's elemental around it. So the movies great what you're doing great. And like I said a couple times a four love to stay in touch. And we're on social media, man. It's, it's been a pleasure. Yeah, it's definitely gonna pleasure and hopefully we'll be making other movies and I'll come back and talk about those. So let's through us. And you know, reach out anytime man, I got your back and you know, we are now allies in in the good fight. I think. It was incredible chatting with Stu, about his documentary, Jack of all trades his insights into the collectible industry are fascinating, entertaining and I- opening his willingness to talk about his family has a potential to help so many. I'm grateful Stewart was willing to share his story on this podcast. These stories from amazing people likes to stone are what it's all about. We hope you enjoyed it be sure to check out jack-of-all-trades on itunes or Amazon prime. If you wanna connect more hit us up on Instagram at sports leaper. Noor thank you for listening to the sports e preneurs podcast, the podcast, where sports and entrepreneurship collide now go get it.

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Stay Humble

Highly Questionable

16:30 min | 1 year ago

Stay Humble

"Pipped welcome to highly questionable. I'm Dan Lead Guitar. I am hoping that they keep in that weird sound that. Pablo just made where he sort of restless and bored getting ready for our show. Today that's Tori and kinds. Let's get started. Does is general. Diffuse anxiety is Max. Scherzer tweet a bad sign for the baseball season. Okay you can read whatever you want from Max Scherzer on these tweets. In his words you can say. Is this Scott. Boris his client talking as Scott Boras. Trevor Bauer has alleged or is it sure is or regardless of what these words say. It's bleep off owners. It's we're GONNA come back to you with a different proposal and we don't care what this proposal said and what I would say to you. Is this sport more than any other would be in jeopardy because what do you always hear when football and basketball have labor stoppages? What you hear is the players can't withstand what the owners can but in baseball Max. Scherzer certainly can't increases. Health risks doesn't have to play baseball doesn't ever Sour Catholic is based always willing to take the public relations hint on a work stoppage fighting over money. And it's why they don't ever salary cap and why they have so much money. This is exactly what the union before this one stood for. They don't care that it's a pandemic. They want their money. It's not about love of the game and they're not going to let the owners get away with this because the owners have a real problem on their hands your when it comes to leverage ears where their franchises ten actually appreciate when those franchises never depreciate. We've been talking about this story for weeks now and all along I've been saying people are never going to side with the players at a time when so many people are struggling financially. It's just hard to empathize with these guys in their quibbles. Even if there are billionaire owners on the other side but I solve this tweet and the reaction to it Dan and changed my mind. I actually think sentiment on this issue has moved because the owners latest proposal was so transparently. Obnoxious they're are treating this like a normal negotiation where you play ball throw out. Some unrealistic offers. Hope to meet in the middle at the very last second but these are not normal times and it seems to me that they have succeeded. Not only inflaming the players to the point where it's no longer negotiation at all but they've also lost ground in the court of public opinion. The worst case scenario here is that this is exactly actually what the owners wanted to happen. They wanted the union to look at their offer and say this is so obviously unacceptable that now we must waste even more time moving backwards than resetting and starting from before zero so. That's the worst case. The best case though is also pretty embarrassing because even if you forget the whole greedy billionaires versus tone-deaf millionaires kind of tribalism that is overlaying any sort of labor negotiation. This is just a bad offer like pretending it's shark tank. You are out on this immediately and it's not even because maybe you WanNa see baseball really bad or you don't. It's just unreasonable. You're going to ask Mike Trout to give fourteen million dollars to already Merano. Even though Arte Moreno does it needed at all that just is a starter to begin with. And meanwhile the only person I think who is maybe sending back and laughing year is our man blake. Snell WHO's in his gamer chair and saying Bro. I was trying to tell you guys bro. I was right the entire time. Grow quiet and humble Baker Mayfield. More or less. This is exactly why it is that. I was rooting for the Cleveland Browns to win last year. Because I did not want this to happen. I did not want that position. So antiseptic guys giving you boring answers on purpose to swallow the one guy who came in with personality. If you added Ego and arrogance and winning you would have gotten more personality and said you turned him into another one of these drones. Burned by social media burned by public reaction. And now he doesn't want to be a distraction wasn't as good as he should have been last year. He probably the primary reason that that team underachieved and because he talked so much. You can't talk now. So he goes on to zoom meeting and purposely boring to tell you he's here to be silent again while on zoom meeting not being silent but the Dole equivalent but Dan. I have some good news for you. I don't think this strategy is going to work at all because the strategy seems to boil down as it so often does for athletes in an off season too. I figured out the problem. I'm going to become a totally different person. I'm going to rewire my entire brain in personality. This will be my redemption. And I don't buy it and I know this because I myself among twitter way too much just lurking pathetically and I always tell myself I am not going to engage in my mentions. I am not going to do it. But then someone offers up a tasty Colin Coward Morsel and you know instantaneous. Baker Mayfield is going to be back on his computer responding to that. Because the don't is too enticing. The pass up yeah. Having spent time with Baker the impression I got was he has been this way his entire life. I don't think one season of come up is going to change him. I think the personality the bravado will return the second he succeeds I think he is trying to modulate his public persona. Because of the backlash she received House didn't struggle because Baker. Mayfield talked trash. They struggle because of bad play calling an offensive line in shambles mechanic suffering as a result but people relished that struggle because he taught trash. I think he saw that but the second dose struggles go away and he performs. Well he'll go back to being his old self may not where you at all self conscious about starting your very thorough and excellent analysis with having spent time with Baker. She didn't just name drop there. Were you at all self conscious about that when you started the thought that way? No actually because unlike Pablo Tori will constantly draws on his journalistic experiences. I did profile story over and over again with the hit. You with the quote marks wouldn't find that issue and put it behind me right now. Where is your Wallet Right? Now have a wall in her home. That is just magazine covers because I am obviously praying at the altar of my personal vanity. But not even to that extent have I got. There's one one. There's a-rod yourself. Baker one Holloway Years Coming UP NEXT ON MY CELL Steve Show. Oh there's an earthquake in my house though we're apart these days was sharing more so at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy fails thanks for sharing your inner lip. Sing Star. Now it's our turn to share with the Geiko give back the fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers. Because we're committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit last year full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash give back for more INFO and eligibility. How should bill O'Brien feel about? Jj Watson Dorfman of his. Coaching all right. So Captain America. When he is acting and speaking in front of cameras he says the right things that he thinks that fans want to hear and people do believe him to be sincere but he was stumped when asked easiest question in the world which is just. Tell us how. Good your coaches and look at what happened. You're there on the inside. What makes bill o? Rien a good head coach. He's got to new play. All of it's a little bit different role. What makes him good at leading? This team job is to is to do. Just that is the leader James to obviously more of an offensive defensive guy. So it's it's to the overall table vendor lead the offense and now it is Other roles as well as to general managers do everything within the organization That's that's his role. That's what obviously excels at the answer is. Why is he such a good coach? The answer is because he's coach. And that's it. That's all he second you there with some pacifying gesture sorta rubbing his his hair uncomfortable seeing. He just told you the not a good goats. That's what he just said in. Jj Watts defense. I guess in Bill Bryan's defense if you ask defensive players on a team where the coaches offensive minded. They don't usually spend a ton of time with them but that was pretty bad. Basically outed like he was. You know assigned an essay on Bill. O'brien and began with the dictionary defines coach match that doubles based on barges as much and it especially bad because as you pointed out. Dan It's. Jj Watt who we know is a smooth talker but he was not pursued. Her he refused to lie. Is there any greater? Indictment of someone's relationship lied a strangers about that person. Jj Watt would have been better off doing this. Oh No it was an earthquake in my house. Stop moving and pretend like zoom had frozen. Life do question. Iran should say yes to this Jose or remind you at the time of Michael Jordan was across the sky a star that was right there with Michael Jordan once upon a time in American sports and IT WAS JOSE. Canseco and here. He does not like a rod very much. He wished everyone a happy. Mother's Day except for Alex Rodriguez. He's always going after. It must make him crazy. That era ban for the sport for year and ends up J. Lo more relevant than ever and Sunday night baseball. And here's Consejo saying how about we bare knuckle fighting here and my favorite part is wrong. Always I've I'm interested in fighting. There should be a celebrity division by the way a Rod. I challenge you to a bare knuckle. Fight there some spelling issues there. It also ignores that. There once was famously. A boxing match Jose Canseco was supposed to have in south Florida but he instead sent his twin brother who had different tattoos. And that's where the skin of my favorite comment. There was somebody asking. Does he wanNA fight Iran or just a generic rod? Somebody recently told me that ninety percent of the accounts that celebrities engage with on twitter or fight with our butts right. And I'm not saying Jose can say go is about but if you weren't to build a but based on everything you know about Jose Canseco including his speech patterns dots opinions. That is exactly what Bob I love. How one sided this is Alex. Rodriguez has responded to exactly zero. Jose Canseco's overtures and there have been many and they have been personal involved Jaylo involve infidelity allegations. All of this. All of which makes Jose Canseco like Alex. Rodriguez is old friend from home like era. Dan is trying to be America's sweetheart but years. Jose Canseco being like I remember you you. You're in no wants who are coming through tomorrow at five thirty. Am Yes in the Katie L. Okay I believe the call ravage and shabby have the worst jobs in the history of network on television having the get up in the middle of the night to multiple times a week to broadcast games in a different country with players that none of us know but South Korea has fallen in love with our broadcasters they are now huge stars Carl ravage gets a Song Sung about it to nine on a non Mana Mana now nine and nine nine three nine nine nine hundred ninety nine a not out of line. He poked home would dancing. Pablo it's going to be stuck in my head all league intrigue. I am intrigued and I'm kind of reluctant to say why am intrigued but people all right so I was that at. I was at boobs Yambio Charity Baseball event. And that is where I met Carl ravitch except I met Carl ravage as Carl ravaged. I were both coming out of stalls in the bathroom and for some reason our mutual first instinct was to shake shake hands. Oh no not a thing not really disgusting my childhood. I wasn't thinking straight I don king. But you betrayed him on television star by making him on sanitary. He didn't ask for any of that made. Are you intrigued? You did a great job singing that song. Thank you very much. I am intrigued. You know that the Koreans love him because Colorado is not an easy word to say abuse by the way I am afraid. However that. None of your airing that on this program my mom is going to see it and I am going to get a text of hers saying why don't they have a song then little true? That's true yes. Are we going to make one? Is PABLO GONNA make one? Are we going to end the show with Pablo making one for me kinds? That was a lot of fun. Check out both of Munich. Times is podcast podcasts. With lending her dog and also ESPN daily Hobble. Doesn't have any PODCAST. He doesn't have a song. Had much of anything. Other than a terrible must dot dot dot dot mean being Amina Meena Meena Dot Dot dot com.

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Best Of Channel 85 Week 40 - Billy Football Vs. Jose Canseco & Frank's Chocolate Football

Barstool Radio with Dave Portnoy

1:16:01 hr | 7 months ago

Best Of Channel 85 Week 40 - Billy Football Vs. Jose Canseco & Frank's Chocolate Football

"Hey what's up guys. It's big cat before you start listening to this episode. I want to let you know that we're running a special sale on all barstool merch. Go to store dot barstool sports dot com and use code podcast for ten percent off goto store dot barstool sports dot com and use code podcast for ten percent off. All sports will be relocating to manhattan. We wanna take it to the world but we're trying to take the site and it. They've conquered what an barstool takes over the sirius. Xm airways what real the finer things club. The scumbag you to the shelters dictates controversal here. We're funnier smarter better than everybody else. Who's stealing our stick on the internet by the common for the common man. Food back to barstools breakfast rocking his bond. Friday is gentleman. Friday to be zach. Hopefully you're having a great start to your weekend. It is time for headlines ready large. I am ready will. Let's roll baby morning. Everybody's your headlines for friday gentlemen's friday january fifteenth. Chuck jim as two friends named mojo wrong way fell division around this weekend on saturday. Rams packers at four thirty ravens bills at eight fifteen. Then on sunday he got brown chiefs at three and bucks saints at six forty s. That's your lineup for this weekend. Big highs and fires yesterday around football we spoke about a little bit jags. Higher urban meyer off the bench. The jets are high. Forty niners defensive coordinator roberts salah we spoke about this on the On the break. His first guy muslim descent. I muslim yeah also head. coaching job. This deal is fire their offensive coordinator rich or rainy fittner feet ner in Yet awesome ankles to and bill. O'brien recently got shown. The door just got another door opened up. He becomes offensive coordinator for save up for nick. Sabin down in alabama so bill pryor prime picks up on a nice little job. nhl the isles pummeled. The rangers last night four zero. It was three. Oh after the first period president-elect biden announces one point nine trillion economic package last night included in. That was a lofty goal of one hundred million. Vaccinations in the first one. Hundred days of his term We about execution yesterday. There was another one last night. Us executed gang killer last night. The twelve federal execution of the year. And there's another one planned today that would be the last federal execution under the trump white house. The mega millions go out. And get your fucking mega mean. Strong tonight is for seven hundred fifty. That's the fifth largest drawing of all time in the us and tomorrow's powerball is worth six hundred and forty million on six. It's a wolverine was spotted on camera yellowstone national park. That's the first time the elusive mammal has been spotted there since two thousand nine. It's rarely seen because of dwindling population on this day in history the first football The first super bowl played and mom by the packers in nineteen sixty seven. Today's national bagel day tomorrow could sell them bagels actor liam neeson said recently in an interview. He will soon retire from doing action movies. I agree one hundred percent hanging up at man. Today's birthdays oscar-winner. Regina king turns fifty. Nfl qb drew brees. Turns forty two and pit bull. Turns forty jennifer lopez was spotted in miami. Speak wearing a mask that said j. lo on it and crystals because of course she would and finally. The uk has banned arrivals from some latin american countries in portugal following reports of a new corona virus variant in brazil. Oh no a new study out says that the covid nineteen pandemic dropped the. Us life expectancy in twenty twenty by one point. One three years lewis yet yes. That's it for Headlines today happy gentleman's friday and back to you to clean here Congratulated new york jets on a new. Hire iowa's unaware of it. Somebody tweeted music. Willie we hire head coach last night. robert soleil right. That's the correct name. Soleil saliva messing up. I apologize but i'm really happy for A lot of people are excited about big move to jets. Hopefully this guy turned around and get this thing moving in right direction second corruption. We started this. Show talking about how i want you to. Nash and i was felt very insulted. Because the guy behind the counter at the jewish daily enemy a piece of fried chicken. Well yeah enlarge like oh that happens to me all time you have a confessional much. I have to come clean. I was being protective of the local jewish deli. I'm not doing that anymore. Not now william not doing that. They choose deli over you. They've never hand me a piece of fried chicken. As a matter of fact they've never handed me and he's i wasn't wrong insulted. I think i will still go to the grave with the belmont tavern because they often give melon. They always have some sort of melon or something like that so if it was seasonal. They would definitely have given you watermelon. I know i've had free melon at the at the belmont tavern. Those go to. I'll go to the mattresses for that hill. I choose to die. On kosher nash racially profiling thank you and will lead cologne this as a matter of fact. Small boycott in place. Right now i want. I just didn't wanna feel. I don't wanna be the angry black man and i didn't want to be a race better but it hit me. I was like you. I'm looking at spinach. Pied the fucking perogie salmon connected to finish all. Gimme some of that. You me drumstick of fried chicken. You send me around hundred to eat. It was a dagger not and twenty. Twenty one we're not having no no that's not why would willi while we're on it. Happy martin luther king weekend yes on the fucking even martin luther king lars goes the place up fucking. Let's get it right And i'll tell you what they don't know where the money resides big guy like you got the deep pockets. You'll be getting a lot from. They're not more than fuck. That plays a very special guest. We do Bnb crew and we have billy flock in football. Ladies and gentlemen the jumpsuit looking very primed and trim and dapper. What's going on now. You have me on guys. I was a little late. But it's alright sitting the more we know that your generation doesn't like to get up past the nine o'clock get on the mic man. Welcome to bar breath say city in the morning you know sitting in the morning you know french toast for dinner. Many many doubters said you would make it here. In time i know. I i didn't i didn't think you're gonna make it period. Maybe mr until i apologize. Appreciate you net stiffen the form of course not Listen man you. Jose can say caboose going down rough and rowdy february fifth A lot is on the line opposite your pride and your steak and your legacy here at bars who you are going to get somebody who's fought before Big man by the way hose. Big man yourself. But jose a lot older than you Been in ring before has a story headline everybody knows about him. Sn engine in baseball Where are you at right now Prepare for the fight. So you know honestly i came back to bar still you know basically working out. 'cause i knew that the my next athletic Probably competition was to sewage. Probably be fighting rough and rowdy new. I in the back of my head. 'cause like you know coming back i was always like i definitely find out at some point like you know i didn't want fighting co workers as having in mind. I was like i definitely want to do that. That's awesome so. I started jumping rope. I started you know working the bag a little and then when jake paul happened with jake paul fight happened. Everybody wanna fight everybody online then. Everybody everybody ought to fight you jake and i was like wow man like i was watching the fight. Eleven o'clock house like puck and jake paul that happened. Then you know jose's dragging how beefs from two years ago because he wants to fight and so then he went after big cat who two years ago said that he wanted to fight. Jose for jose's comments regarding a rod. Big cat a rod corp guy you know went on a limb and said he'd fight jose for a rod and what ended up happening. Is jose pulled those tapes from two years ago. Said i wanna fight big cat. Because i have a kid. I'm a father talked to me like that as a father. I'll get my intern to fight you me. Because i was talking trash online about j. paul which i one hundred by jake paul But you know. Jose canseco in my mind at least is a whole nother beast and jake paul then of course of course then our boss day portnoy tweeted out hundred k. Billy football versus. Jose can and ever since then. I've been training like a maniac been after. Yeah even if it wasn't going to happen it's like you better be red. He turned up. Yeah so what's the stats on right now billy. What's the height and weight around six. Three two six four depending on how i wake up in the morning but I'm right now. I'm still trying to keep on weight. I started training at about two twenty seven. I don't know where exactly. I'm at right now because i've been doing cardio i'm probably the best cardiovascular shape i've been almost my whole life. Boxing cardio's totally different So probably hovering around two twenty. Hopefully i'm twenty two as a two days ago. And so you have billy football in the red corner twenty two years old six three two hundred and twenty pounds and in the blue corner you have fifty six year old. Jose canseco more than double on this son of a bitch and he's six four which probably closer to six three and he's going to be happier you we're going to be around two forty right to something like that. Yeah that's seventy. that's that's a fight man. That's not a that's not a mismatch that that's a fight. That looks good on paper outside of the age different obviously It's gonna look good man. I think this is very exciting for both. You sons a bitch. Well not whatever. I think it's going to be a very very exciting fight. Are you working out with the menendez brothers and ship. Unfortunately menendez brothers had to shut down during cova. Apparently i'm training out of a family friends. Jim right now is they. Were the fastest. I could start working out. So i made the call when the tweet happened. I've been trained there ever. Since have you sparred it. Yes yes i've been doing if you can't tell. My nose is pretty swollen. They can't really breathe out of it sounded daisley. I've inspired the new year. It's been awesome. You know you you figure out that you know there's athletes and there's fighters and The bat change in that change to approach is huge. And if i if. I make it to that point where i'm not only an athlete but a fighter by the time i step in the ring with jose canseco. You know i got. I got a fighting chance and i think of course. Of course there's going to be doubt as you'd be like jose canseco gonna knock you out with one punch like you know he's got to get to you. It's not if it's went and you know. Are they nothing about me. I expect dot process. But you know i gotta work ethic and i'm i come off as a nice guy but i'm not always the nicest guys i can. I can turn it up this time to. This may be the first tag team and rough and rowdy somebody one year in the rain kicking ass. You will have some might. It'll be meaning maiming. Hope jose can say the deaths two pronged attack. I yes so billy. Football has backup the dragons this thing is gonna be electric once again. Roughing rowdy going down in west virginia virginia february fifth We have been on the lot. Would you got bendel. Hey what's happening. Guys billy how you doing. I'm doing great then dog. Go ahead right. While you're kicking jose and seko's ass inside the rink i'm gonna be kicking his ass outside the ring names. Let's go. let's go baby inside the ring outside. The ring tag team take down is going to be perfect after. I beat his ass in the ring. He's going to go on his phone check twitter and he's just gonna get knocked out twice. Just flipped left to. Billy is now odds-on favourite against this. The the vendome factors put billy over the edge. Yes sir you got. I got i got a big jack. You gotta hook working on the hook. The jab jab which work on first billy wright targeted uppercut yes. Sir yes sir. All right i got live. Action means. let's you do combination right. I'm saying greenstreet five action means we're going to get. I'm hyped hyped. Then i was just in here talking. Then i'll just sitting here talking ability and we were talking about how he's preparing for fight powered you preparing for this. Yeah i heard you gotta you gotta be ready. You got to train how to you. Know what we were same so true. I had a professional watson and we went to a lot of fights and you were taking me. She's always jacked up. His muscular can't throw a punch. You right is athletes in this fight. It's you got to rotate those hits everything you've got into that punch and you know you you've got a chance you today sir. Hey six years old. I can tell you i remember what it was like to be fifty six. He's got he's got a brace on his knee. He wakes up in the morning. Everything you're young stud at what he is training off my money. You then go to call up baby appreciate thank you so much for your support been doll those live. Action means deadly live action me going down. Fifth rare parents from vendor. Leave the cave. I mean he's locked in there and his mean pod just just constantly killing people day. In and day out he goes. You gotta right hook. I got cut. I got other names beams targeted me right at it right handed. Okay so let's can. Oh and here's the thing about can saco. He shot himself in his left hand in two thousand seventeen while he was killing while i was cleaning a gun so that means that that japan is a little bit. Duck your head down. You haven't jeb you on the top of the head really that injury and we'll get through this man i. What did you play in a high school and college so in high school as a quarterback i came into college as a quarterback as You know there's only one quarterback on the field so a seen the field. My freshman year was You know quarterback i played. I played d. Three in massachusetts having graduated so i try not to all gosar but fine. Most people know but So went in realized. I wasn't gonna see. The field is a quarterback switched to wide receiver. So i could play special teams and just you know play football. Because that's why he went to college to do and You know my senior season got cancelled That's how back are still Like football's over Might as well you know. I like since so when i left parcel. Twenty seventeen to go to school. You know. everyone's like. Why would you go to school like working at barstools. Degrading ever in which i agree like this companies amazing but You know when you spend your whole lifetime. Play college football playbook so once i was all over and you know part of me was like i gotta try to sit in a cubicle. Try couple internships like it's the real world experience that made me just as suicide. The opportunity come back the has like he says so. Good i think most people don't realize art You go into college. A position recruited for a position that they feel like. You should be able to play right. Like i was recruited to hospital. Play defense to tackle. I left planning officer tap right. Business happens in the middle of college. Football and i think sometimes for young kids Man i'm gonna be linebacker. Well there's not a there's only there's only dependable defense you have You're playing. There's only one guy who could play the mac right as another guy who jack you so you have to pull audible and you have to be willing to do so. So there's a lot of guys who. I play those two guys hopping team. Who went to hop quarterbacks in converted to linebacker so it the business episode this is a lesson to all the young guys out there who are playing college football there. You could be stubborn. And but no. I'm just i'm you can pull the tibo route. I'm a quarterback. Nothing else or you'd be like. Hey i got four years. I just wanna fuck and field. I'm athletic enough to do anything. Let me go out and just do it. And plus i was playing d three so it wasn't like you know i wasn't going to the nfl so there's no point transferring here and there is a great group of guys i played with and you know they're my boys. They're trying to see the fight depending on covid paul's which is going to be awesome. That's what most that's another thing was that doesn't get your you know like you see as you go around the nfl. You'd be like why is eight thousand people in this stadium and nobody in. They've been pretty respectable as far as spacing people out. Same thing some college games. I think west virginia would be on the side of of letting people make out in the hallways but i mean i remains to shout out to that really. I have a question for you. You say so. This is jose. Kaneko random fucking thing that popped in front of you played. I don't think you had lifelong dreams to fight hoses saco how about other people can you. So you think you could beat oppose. It can saco training for three months and getting into the ring with them. You believe that. And i know that to be true because you took the fight. I'm gonna throw out some other names if you can do the same thing kevin durant. Well you know. Kevin durant honestly as we've seen basketball players don't have the best chin day robinson. Wow for all the nba. Now he's already said we chen. Everybody has a week just something to say about that. Kennedy is actually a big time fighter. Andrews zach randolph. Part of being a fighter realize a lot of confidence lot. Cockiness me personally. I'm usually humble guy. But i have to get into this. I can destroy everybody evans iran. Just get his reach and pound the body. He's not gonna take by shots. Well hopefully he starts keeling over. That actually probably reach his chin at that point. Because i'm probably not gonna get any shots. His head off it would be it would be a long wearing down process bouncy him having any punch power to take me out. The guy came even bench. Press one thirty five proven selena to the basketball No no comment. I'd let her beat. The shit out of me goes really. I'm not in the business of it and women and women should. I also who's walking out. Are you making a hundred grand is. There's specific said he'd be. I haven't signed any paperwork. Hundred percent gonna fight. But i'm not doing any sorta hold out but we gotta figure out certain things regarding you know like there's still stuff that we have to figure out what's glove wait. He originally said no headgear. Twelve ounce gloves as. He thinks he's going to be able to knock me out with the least amount of padding. He's now saying he wants to do. Fourteen ounce gloves. Fourteen ounce So i'm training with eighteen hours gloves right now. Because you know i'll slip on the lighter gloves you know. Hands will be faster but We're still sorting that out. The hundred k. You know will figure out if that staff in it you know i'm just. I'm just happy to fight. You know. I you know the best part about this that i've convinced all my buddies move in and we have a fight camp right now like i have an odd like basically you know your whole buddies. You're famous making entourage there really. Yeah so we're kind of plane entourage right now and it's fun it's really young. Who's gonna walk out with you pm. T obviously what about tank. I would love to see a tank willie. Cologne dogs walked out. Definitely my trainers a shoutout. Rob show mike douglas They're definitely come out with me and west virginia i. I don't know how many of my boys i can bring. But they're gonna try drive down if they can be in the crowd and whatnot but just logistically. But i'm height. The walkouts gonna be so hyped. So what's your workouts on. Are you allowed to your surprise. I'm deadly and include. That is spongebob clip. Where they got another just really gotta get gotta tell teach you this lesson old man. It's just hilarious. You find the clip. It's like include south. How you had a great quote in. Tmz was It was. I'm gonna murder jose canseco and then the next line was i've known dentist killing. That's what got quoted. I gotta i gotta you know mature at some point realize that can be taken out of context but like we were talking about. You know. jose's old guys older guy their ears. sweet spirit. I think i need you understand. You're gonna rain. What somebody gives no fox about he wants to. He doesn't give a fuck who you are where you come from all. He knows he's hoping jose can say he's one home run titles he's he's one of the original bass brothers he's coming to knock your fucking dick off of was you. I will take a hard bottle of fucking kick ass pills. Swallow it and shit out. Still so Yeah get real with it. Because i know wants the bell rings bro. Yeah well you've seen a lot of quiet champion so like i. I've seen a lot of demure guys mean manny. Pacquiao is one of the greatest sweet ever. Just sweet dude and then as as a switch that gets flipped. So i mean i like the fact that this kid is grounded as all very likable kid. I've never spoke with Too much. I'm not asking him out on a date really he did an okay job. He's more entertaining than a good cook. Dodges serena williams one. But i don't give a shit. You beat up serena williams chris chris fuck up. Chris bound dooley's like a buck thirty but he likes to chris. Brown is let it has boxed and kim fight. Who did you say would beat me. Up with the rapper. Some tiny fucking rapper. Remember that tiger who go wash pet. Who's the shot. Megan thee stallion Tori she's like five to needed that gun of that balance. 'cause all of like five nine strong strong woman about a an amateur fighter like like pat mcauliffe. Now i know you be giving patty be giving up some weight here because you guys roughly two hundred. I'm a i've alive respect to boxing. It's a it's an ancient art in yellow. I'm not going to be out here. Saying i can fight. Conor mcgregor knocked out. Wasco the shit out of it's just i've allow respected guys there's athletes in there's fighters tough guys and then there's guys you're going to actually take one on the chen and give you three more. I mean you know. I have shoot like the guys. I'm hopping in the ring with right now. Amd your fighters you know these guys been doing it for a long time in my opinion a lot more dangerous than jose can say to me at least a lot faster lot more punching power. You know you got these guys who are thirty built. But they're built because they're not cutting weight boxing right now. They're like there. Is there between fights with now. You're sparring with guys two hundred that's created. So i i mean i've gotten let's just say you know a lot of people you even in the face before i've been punched in the face a lot like the guys The guys who are trying with you know they're not taking a light on me. They're not this. This ain't a joke. They them for good amount of time. They've always wanted me to box about playing football now. Now we got you go straight the spire drake but it's a. It's an amazing sport like i. You know. honestly you know a lot of people think everybody. In america play football. Their kids play football because it teaches great life lessons. I think you know. Boxing is right up there. Hey man hundred resistant billy. I'm gonna leave you with this women. Rob you of your legs if you need to have sex before you didn't that ring have sex with the dude. Yeah and then you come out and about and then we talk about a tv. Owns it goes viral. The whole fucking anywhere. No i won't keep you on. We have been minutes coming up football this week and everything that's going down. nba nfl. We have king cake here so today. King cake day I don't know if you get it because you've probably got a box in diabolical touch you a piece anyway come back been meant the whole gang breakfast stole frank's chocolate football I don't know probably a lot of the main toss. Two of the major suspects are in this room. Road is the main suspect is it was found on. His desk is a suspect. You're also inspects. How am i afraid. The house can be assessment. You love chocolate. Fair and kb's writing sample was identical. What is our album ransom note. Say why don't you tell us. Yeah said mr fleming which is something that you would say hats. You always call him. Mr tank mr fleming. You call everybody. Mr rhone mr cat. I go to dm ron and it was. They reviewed the video video. The one that was on Twitter videos that it was when we found out that it was taken. The football was taking. I wasn't here when you found out. Well i know you walk in and you said this you said if i did a ransom note i wouldn't have just written it. I would cut out magazine letters. You didn't see the ransom note yet. Unaware own oh coverage all based also it was obviously because this stuff every day. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna defend rhone here for a second though. He does do this stuff but he always does it with a better. Twist than just. Ooh the football's on on. My desk has happened yet. The twist people are actually saying. I'm the twist. Because i have now secured the football i in my whatever you call it cabinet. Great long play. You ended up with the football. I have it locked away. No one has the football. Just for frank knows for all of us. That's the part that kills me. Frank has been talking about this football. He's like hey one of these days. I'm gonna bring in this chocolate football. We're all gonna eat it. Watch watching football which we're going to do on sunday who doesn't come in on sunday grown caleb. Kb so it's funny. How nick is so eager to accuse me i found. He's the one that found it very quickly. He found quickly. Brandon found kind of quickly. Yeah desk thrones. I'd ask bill. Oh yeah he got lucky that you know i said. Where's ron sit. And i went to stop. Trump begets desk car. That's suspicious. I'm sure it does over there. Next him suspect he's been to my desk every day. Always always desk confusion in that area. How now how do i. What do i have. I come in on sunday. I was going to eat some of that football. But you also want your jealous of roan are being the video guy for and you're the first person that's morning to volunteer your services to video for why i want to do that. Run by the way. I don't know why. It's just so funny to me every time that frank like someone suggests someone else videotape him doing sodas. He's just like the people love wrong. They i mean think people love when he does that deng. I moved the camera with the music. It's like we have a shorthand. And why would i jeopardize caleb what. I was building with frank by putting doubt in his mind. That accused me of being the one. Let us run out to flip it. That's why you hit it intentionally poorly on your desk and the handwriting on the note. Fibs admitted looks like his handwriting. In the tears of suspects the top three or roan nicotine jeff ever so i think it's either roane and nick together or jeff. I made it from the west coast. Answer back to new york with painting that someone didn't want stolen and that took several days. You think that in like within five minutes so starting to look a football gets gets immediately found. I think you intentionally. You wanted to look like you were framed by jeff so you have no competition framed yourself. Yes yeah who wrote the note then you. I don't make my ours like that to. I want when you want to write in your own here. The only person that doesn't have a letter similar. What are you talking about. None of your letters look like the letters on the ransom note and so. That's the reason that i wrote it yet. Go the parent was gonna write a letter from santa claus. It wouldn't write it in their own. Would it's not about the handwriting. It's about the way the slant of the shape how you taxi says about. Hey when i do. When i do at our i loop it around tapes. Her being sad tapes are being pulled. I gotta run. Tapes are being pulled. So we'll find out. Who did it wants to say now. Who was the one who said frank tanks deaths before he got there been. Mince my voters rounded michio or are you guys doing last night own. Were you hear osceola. Oh what do you know. He's sitting at frank's. Are you sure when. I pull the tapes. If i find you sitting in frank's desk what will you do I don't remember that. Yeah because i might have seen a preview. The tape be right well. And i saw at frank staff saw owen city salt review of the tape because we were trying to find it. We're going through. We're meticulously pouring through. It and owen had his feet up on frank's desk. I just can't there's not. You can't go through the tapes. We literally go right. No it's not trying to cover now. I feel like this is going to backfire. You figure have been you know because the fake person that you're accusing of doing this is going to be absolved. That's why it's going to backfire. I'm just thinking of other. Should i may have done on camera roll. Were you able to do this view. This is weird. I think i'm gonna have the tape right here at least part of it And it's owen. Sitting with his feet up on mr tanks desk. Obey the football still on the desk. Though can't tell why would you think that you because owen wooden steal the football on sundays. A piece of that ball isn't coming in on sundays chase. The ball hoopoe the ball. I talked to frank about the ball. I would definitely steal the right. Did you steal the football now. He just not by saying exactly so. Why are you so quick to absolve own of of innocence. But you're so eager to accuse me because that makes us. I've made it seem like you're trying to frame me. No i'm not sure bring you frame yourself. I associated with where i'm gonna blame for poisoning a youths mind. I don't want that blood on my hand. Definitely framed himself framed himself. That's a classic move. This is a witch hunt and The tape will absolve me. Be on the right side of history. Honestly there's a who done. This is a classic whodunnit. This isn't an obvious. I wanted to get caught. I already did the plot where i wanted to get caught and that was with buddha. Ben what aren't tell because then it runs like i feel like so smart that it would be up smallest would be a lot more thought out but then this would be perfect because it was still think this is not over like the big twist has happy. We're still mid point of the movie but my football. What are those. Frankly has the football. I've seen go up to the computer. Printer industry draw dicks on every single piece of paper and then walk away. And i don't even know what ended up happening with that. That's the type of guy he. It was my first week here adding. He taught me how to salad. I ate the salad. Nothing wrong with it. And then he texts me a video of him just flipping over my croutons just touching every croutons in my salad. I remember the produced video. I i got a new phone. One time i was. Actually i was at his apartment. Are you going off in rome. Calls me donny's right now. And i was like yes and you just hangs up. No he doesn't hang up on me. You donnie you were there. Yeah and he said. Let me talk to nick. And yes and he said. Let me talk to donnie. The only where you end up looking through the window. So what does that have to do if ranks of what of pranks just so. I'll be a perfect person to frame. Then i was at the lake and he said call me immediately. It's urgent you like run into the woods. Try to get service and he says. Are you interested in buying real estate and you were on a lot of mushrooms. Yes yeah. I didn't know what you what you even doesn't want to go along with this lie. It's fiction did do that. You're in into the woods to get service. Thank you seeing steven. What do you think happened. I don't know i mean. Has anybody in the past couple of days like maybe tailed frank to get a. Maybe a good pattern of his movements. No was fucking tailing frank. What helped us. 'cause i haven't seen the ransom note that people who are listening probably haven't either so kosonen read. The ransom note are grown. Has it memorized this converse. Another thing that threw me off. Caleb was it said. Mr fleming at the top and it was written out m. i. s. t. e. r. m. r. That's very which i which is very kaby and they also. There's two different types of case i on this. There's a all the is have a single line down but they made a mistake on one of the is and gave it to drop you. Look at who seconds. How do you know all of this. I poured over it with frank franken. I looked over the entire thing. What is what did he thinks he's he doesn't know yet. He has gone through all of it but he he he realizes that nick is kind of pushing the envelope a retired they were in lower case. Elle's positive because syntax wise words would would have been nonsense described. Frank's motion is she. Okay no yes. He's fine. And i'm gonna i'm gonna shudo. I'm gonna shoot him later on today aereo. Here's a ransom. Note runs going to stumble on some of the letters to read it. Because you guys are all going to try be stumbling over. I don't even want to touch 'em we also have the So those letters are circled by francis. Kb i mean it is identical to katie's handwriting identical to sandra your phone. Now nick pre phone down. Mr fleming if you ever in also should be noted that the is circled in jesus circle allies. Because he's saying that the is is exactly the same as big cats and the are is exactly the same as knicks. Okay wait let's go back a little bit. Big cat brought this up. The cat ended up with the football and big cat claims to have the video but didn't produce it. Yes so let's not rule out. I don't wanna rule up big cat because also on big cats handwriting analysis. His first g that he writes because we all had to write. Mr fleming doesn't look like that g but then when he writes big cat naturally he does. Oh yeah and this. I could see this being big catch writing here. He comes down the hall. He said he had interview and yet he's grabbing him. Okay says he knows mr fleming. If you ever underlined wanna see your chocolate football again you will take a sip of vinegar in tweet it. The clock is ticking sadness. That's funny so funny. Person actually didn't even i never read that second part The sip of vinegar and tweet it just thrown because even when where are the two different is at the very beginning. Beget did this. This this has been kevin. Let me see a twelve year official. Yes began one hundred percent of this. He ended up with the football. Yes he the. Football is at his desk in his dallas. Okay so once. I also okay is also self professed biggest frank fleming fan in the office and the cat is self professed obsessed with twitter but one thing that i will say in his favor is that he stuck up for me when all the attention was on me. So if he were really witch hunting and trying to deflect he would have said that it was me and just agreed with you. Not as i owed. Because then he would want to say that like no can't be big because he stuff. He frames you. He wants you to think he's on your team. He's now you think somebody frames you right. Somebody knows what he wants unless you did it. Someone frame me. You've might framed yourself. Stop yet still some wissies. Enron's this is not my handwriting. Scratch ransom notes written. Somebody's exact literally capable. He's not keeping came whereby capable of doing on that. It's not no i'm not. I don't make any of my letters like that with my the there's just my my chicken scratch even when i try to write proper. The shapes of them the top of my ems are always rounded. The my ours are always. Loopy is the way that i naturally make them. I come back around the top of the are you use it. As three different shapes six dollars the clock is ticking. Dot dot dot dot dot dot to lipsey three dot guy. How many dots are you. Three three three. Why six telling put down your phone. K kb search twitter man. Yeah that's what i'm gonna clock is ticking. That is the phrase that don't people don't only some people say yeah. Clock is ticking. Nick dozen tweet though of we peed on the paper multiple times like jellyfish. They can't smell the to confuse ransom notes jellyfish accuser head on her carl clem mantis. Big cat big cats tweeted. The clock is ticking. Yes remember to take a picture with your mind today. it's week fourteen. The clock is ticking. Is there an ellipse app. How many yeah. What five dots five asses. That's a weird amount so either go three would mantis over three is crazy yet. Oh wait outlets made this before that big cat again maybe also just unnecessarily lied about the five dots so hey adam. Schefter jimmy v. a number six. I've noticed as the years pass you keep adding dogs. I think i did. It man is lying so much. That just knows who the chicago guys and big cat or the only people in mantis katie's also type of guy who would be like all right. I'm a twitter. Search what they've said. And i'm going to write it that way. I can go back in a look through twitter and see i give me too much. Credit brought makes me think like. Who would i have done if i was going to do this. And there's just zero percent chance that i would leave it at my desk with a ransom note to frank area zero percent. You would never think that plot already. You were for debt. I framed monitor. You do it again. No the office work. You almost got arrested. Threatened go to jail like the thrill. What's thrilling about. Who did you want to be blamed for the paint steel theft me. You wanted to be blamed for that. I wanted to get caught for the video would have had help. And he put the the in peace backpack. And i film that myself. Exactly exactly and so. If i had done this there will be some kind of while. You're so adamant about the tapes being. Yeah that i want to be solved. Now you're you're mentioning show because that's the only hard evidence that there is. We need a final ruling also wanna knowing thinks they're way too many suspects right now. There's nobody suspects would you say there are. There's only four or five. That's a lot two or three. I'm rolling out fever. I don't think they look so often. It off strategic frame me. I think it had to have been big cat had to been. Tom does chicken for. I get in of Sittard that frank if you had any enemies and he said he bought a hot dog from the hull guys once log guys. You bring franken the last show to talk about this. We talk about for a second. i'm going to. I just wanna see where he's at. Because i'm curious mike and tampa has Wants to talk about this mike. Talk to us real quick. What do you think my daughter gone on guys. So i think that big cat and roane and frank are all working together on this and you know that row yeah so wrong gets to exclusively do videos for and gets protection from big cat on this whole theory just gets a bigger piece of the football because he loves chocolate and has got to sit back and watch everybody go crazy right more body. Frank is not an agent of chaos. Everything going on with the nets. he's he's all blues also chains right now to really all about the chaos. That's a reach. what are you talking about. When does he ever been chaotic. Big cat or what do you mean he did you. Have you knocking him. Flipping out about the mets and the nets the past three days on the kabul. He's about to be here on my mic. Thank you for your. Thank you for your opinion about this but we have the man frank. Fleming himself in the studio and Kahlo bottom take it away and get to the bottom of this because we. I've been saying we should hire a detective. We should hire shit real new art type shit like a private. I haven't talked through everything he's thinking so we know how to do it from now on demand list Yes detective so Frank is is in here and I am genuinely frank. That's the bad chair. Unfortunately so If it doesn't work it might be Chair might be no good itself. I got the footage as well. Pete just emailed it to me and big cat. Why would he emailed to you and big ninety. But i decided to the it to the ac downloaded. I did not talk and not even look at it. Did you send it back. Yeah i think so. Frank what do you think certainly didn't ya don't know who did it. Who are your main suspects shit. There are many suspect has an idea who he thinks. I don't think you suspect the sky. Have you considered it being big cat. Yes a half. Oh what do you think. I don't know. I mean be cat has been known to stir the pot. I have a question who has the football. Now be kept us. I've watched it yet. Well why don't you watch nick because It was because it was you know. It's no football on his desk. Whoa i'm talking to kyle was in. That picture. screen goes black some sort of electromagnetic interference. Man don't get so mad. Why do i have. You had us all out here accusing each other. Not me that. Jose others pune. Just send that to me that camping cat. That's you you did it now. This i did not do it. Look at the video way sent to you. And who else seacat. All i know is the video shows us standing at that could have been at any time. the blackout though. That's that's very you know. Why would i do that very you know the blackout part of the most troubling part about this whole case this might there's elements of every person to this. There's parts that every person every suspect would do franken's you watch the tape. What do you think that's ridiculous clears my name. How how's it clear you name. If you're standing at my dad thank you. That's where he was right across from me. I was talking to him. I was getting ready to leave. I was just standing nick. Hate goes black friday. What are you using me this way. Too obvious to say we might need to bring in naga. I guy's a frank yet. How does this make you forget cha there. There is a little bit of evidence in this photo so when exactly the football go missing because this couldn't have happened at any time well. The tapes polled are at a certain time. The football was at my desk when i left last night about five. Does out your desk. When i left at eleven pm last night that we're recording at the football. I've just look at the tape. You can see football when i'm standing. Oh frank i think we should. We better check. I haven't read the notes. But i've noticed what happened is i think he's pretty red handed right. I mean We have this very peculiar very. I agree but i'll worldly is this. Is this the best camera angle. We had three have multiple cameras on the content for while the best one. Why would we use this one. I think that's the only one that one. It's not the one. I liked their sixteen angles. So this is the one from the all the way across the floor. This is all business piece that this is the best angle because it directly shows frank desk Windy a more camera on your desk. You can't see the football in this angle is why i'm concerned. This is outrageous camera. Blacks out for about fifty minutes. So there's forty eight minutes. So frank from exactly what happened in watergate from ten fifty eight until eleven. I am not a crook with guilt. Free frank do it then. I'm not a crook. Look straight at him. I didn't look up into the left like you so you were conscious of looking up into the left. I mean whoever did this certa started shit on me. And i want to do that when you and i are hitting such a groove with our videos frank why would i want to jeopardize this fans love it. Yes thank you of the fans. Love it what we have going on. Jeff was just vibrant was talking about how the fans love him. He was talking about that but what time. Eleven eleven forty five last night was here too yeah. I don't think he was was he walking. He was out for a late night run. I'm pretty sure he was with his running group. He has a good alibi. I mean the way it ended up on rollins desk. I mean he wanted to be framed. Seat fibs is out of the picture. Only an idiot would put it on a desk like that or get a double crossed him and to cover it with Who was an idiot here. Well only an idiot put it on his own desk unless hang framed loud. I do think coming right by. I would like to talk to people with the blackout. How can you come on in business. We talk about selling flags that we just received from. You got a new pullover for christmas. He's been wearing and we have two questions two questions. One steve. this guy's got. I got nick. Everyone cat everyone. Yeah yeah cause request. That's who dan said. It was going to review it. Dan so interesting questions for you on quality of this. It looks good no one. What about the angle is or no angle that shows where the actual football. I think that's right. You think you think that. That's the only angle that i think it is see. The football was it the far. That's that's the that's the only angle on on a desperate. Yeah conveniently blacks out before the crime. What during the crime. What is this the footed you sent taking a look at. You should take a look at this because it's peculiar it's almost like water. Mostly the watergate hotel and the shady dealings that went on there at the rnc headquarters that would be the dnc the dnc. Sorry frank. that's so it's done that since you've seen it so either. Big cat or nick has altered this footage. No i just. I just pulled times okay but we gotta blackout for the actual crime. How do you know the crime was committed to the just a glitch. like how. why do you think that the crime was committed to that time i sent. I sent a bunch of time. Okay it's interesting. Why is why we have equipment that just blackout. What's the point of security kansas blackout. In the middle. I had to investigate this. Think first of all. I think you should double check the footage you sent yorkshire. There has been no altering no guys to the footage. Remember this sometimes to cover up is worse than the crime itself is that what a scoreless accusation. I hadn't remembered there's really talking about. I forgot about that. The the blackout that happens there It is kind of convenient that at least nick was right around the desk at the time. No known i got to full-back it's it's being held safely. I don't have the football trust. I wouldn't trust it has but it's not my here's the thing. This is a gift office. We were gonna watch it for. Eat it during sunday. Watching the game has seen ronan is wasn't a football i brought for myself football so fucked up. This is part of a movie that came out a lot of nights out. This is literally the out. I'm gonna go. Purge tapes and reboot the system and make sure that this never happens again can we. Can we send it over to our our camera guy who looks over these thing. I mean you think. I should get highly investigating because he would he would know and he will be the most suspicious of at this point if i just got an apology from the person who did this neck apologize own. I didn't do it frank. That'd be the end of it. You have my word frank. You got to think about where the football ended up. Who benefited from this. Crime is like the big cheese. I walk if you'll become the big cheese without stealing a few. He's he's cut some corners. He's done some things from doing this. Frank we got a big chocolate football and cut vibes. I had nothing to gain. What is. Nick has a gain as soon as you came in today. He asked to be your campers. And if there's doubt around my name and i get ousted as your camera person than he has that to gain. He hermit crabs into my shell. And start filming you. You got a taste of being frank swing man and you saw. What i have your. You're trying to be a frank at mellon. Frank likes film though. Everyone likes when i film frank over like that he wants to be a franken trying to cut me. How you out of. What franken. I already in we. We already have something so strong hand. You don't want to be end. And a fans are loved her own shooting either one of those fans. Meanwhile big cats just not in here to say that very convene guy who ended up with the football walked away in his closet. We assume it's locked away. It could be any locked away in his belly by now. Anywhere could have shifted off to japan. By now it could be there could be a faberge nick. Why are you texting again. I didn't see jeff. Low text us are pods just came out jeff to kb. They're probably communicating with each other in the anus group chat. Yeah exactly communicating in code or you about to say jeff de low also. I looked katie's phony. He canceled out of zap. So yeah i could see that. I could see jesse lows. So when i'm saying that if nixon involved this footage was most likely doctored by jeff de la. The wake nick acting video just drop today. S morning frank. Stay on task. Please stay on task. That is a great video and michelle shining. i'm say we're almost. We've almost cracked this case that we will definitely wave away. Wait wait frank. You get beat up in this video if he wants to stop you when you craft you know pizza all kevin bonner already suggested that frank it in frank. What did you think of that accusation. Being it's ridiculous because this is a big joke. Yeah the whole investigations sham naked. St louis thinks he knows who it's gone on fars long far too long balls in safe hands. We're going to have it sunday. We're going to forget this ever happen unless the person who stole it steals it again. Naked saint louis is on the line right now. Nick what do you think happened. I think I agree with tales. I think that was the mastermind. And i think used owen as fun said goes. Why do you think that what about own is. He hasn't been quiet. Have smile when you said that has been quiet. Hasn't for his whole life vicious reason filter to change the conversation several times throughout the show Big cat noted words and he's also said several times they are his his guy so he's gonna watch out to not sell them out. Owen kind does Nick thanks for the call owned have kind of a henchman. vibe about him could this have been you own. Absolve yourself clear your name. I told you could have been mia sat at his desk last night. It wasn't. I wish it was looking football. Connor in cincinnati is a police officer. He might be able to help detective. Connor talk to us. Yeah i just got some ideas so as the great job to white shirts and it's never the most person you suspect it's never the least suspect it's always the person you medium suspect just a different viewpoint on that At the most yes myself. The lease in the middle act sleet in person. That's perfectly in the middle. Is nick thank you. Bye one up. He would know he he he is. I mean it's all to get suspects would be roan and abs yes. What about big cat has the football. But he's offered safeguard it. Of course he has and that he's gonna he's gonna pretend saved stolen from him and then he's going to act like he saved the day and he's going to eat the football and i'll tell you something big cats here one o'clock every single day the day your football stolen he now the football and he's not sitting in this chair this whereas football is going to be broken out on sunday during the gambling case. What you're you've been under the another son you've been leading this sunday or the comfortable pitching whatever we feel like doing his thing. I bought the football everywhere. Well you know if there's been an impostor football like if he like this is a great football but if he puts a cheap football yeah faberge what if it's a fake football. Well who's going to find another talk football. That's actually the size of a football. I pretty much. That's what it was stamped and manufacturing. Who's gonna go out to I i haven't even seen that lyndhurst again dylan. Her style was at the lunar shop. I that's where i found it. Oh really you haven't been to that shoprite who's by lynch brandon. Your hours the guy in her new jersey right in her sprain is the only one on the show that lives in new jersey. Steven shay was this an rn. Palmer was oh. Jesus chris how did you know what would you say. That owen sound just annoys danny in new jersey which to point something out about this entire thing. Danny what do you have to point out that. Maybe we have new jersey. holy shit. That's fucking creepy. Danny what are your was up guys. So my whole thing is is it. It's really suspicious because if you look at the two things are suspicious one. Why didn't they get to review the tape. I don't think he should have been the one to review the tape. Great if framed me is thought attention nixon. yes. I'm tense right now. You're you're. You're you're defensive lighter. Some shit's going on bro. But anyway on people stool if you do notice in that in that video when there was like big cat did pop up and he was like he was like. Oh frank your football. And then they got was holding note. He was like yeah but they used this special lettering. So you can't even read it. He was like. I don't know like spearheading like the investigation. In a way like thinking that could be like get it off. Get it off him if he just likes points out. The fees lettering up. Good good points points. Frank what are you going. Don't you just put your hood on talk that freezing. I know i palm off my hoodies. Hundred frank before we came in here brandon to or no. He just rolled up the sleaze very very interesting twenty minutes go also is not sure if he said a franks desk in about two minutes ago. He said he did sit at frank's good radio man. It's a real whodunnit. It's an actual game of clue. I'm calling in the fact knowing that i did do it though. Frank and you You have my word on that friend what we're gonna do right now as we're going to take a break we're going to think about it and we're going to revisit it after the break and hopefully we'll fucking crack this case before the show. What are you what are you. what are you saying. Brand what are you. What are you saying brandon. Not say anything. Did you just find the page that he ripped out from your nobel. Somebody ripped this gentleman notebook. I sit next to nick. Take a break and late. We'll take a break. We have my stole from you. We'll be back in a second. Dan dan dan dan dan. It was ten thirty on thursday morning talk. It was a sunny and abnormally warm day for january. When he walked to his desk he noticed that his chocolate football a twenty two ounce actual full size football it was the size of a football gone up and it was left a random note. A ransom note saying that he would never see the football again unless he drank vinegar. Consider drinking did you ever know forgetting to bigger. And what tweeting. That's important part of specific on. What are you reading. Oh i just have knicks notebook right here identical handwriting on his it regular notes. What happens to be the ransom note. Look that candy see this. How do you know that's my fucking notebook Dude this is bad for you so so we just got a. This is an episode four brainstorm. I won't reveal the details of confidentiality but the word dick has written about seventeen times club. Lebron cowardice anyway. Shit anyways it's all written in all caps as is the ransom note is damn near exactly say. Let me see did what he got sloppy. Mc that left column could be anybody's nope well. It's nick notebook that you got from his desk. That has notes about his show. And wait a minute. Anyone else would come up with lebron titus. The is very freaking day the all of this. You're going to go down by any. Do you plead guilty. I've been a franken. The dab fucking hired trivia going to your house to film reviews hotdog reviews traveling spending the entire day. Your soda reviews most beloved product. You're almost obsessed. Would you say you plead guilty. The thing you take the pride in the most your soda reviews your daily soda of us. I'm the perfect candidate film. Perfect i am sitting right there. I think we see this talk. You look right at me and said hey. We film the soda review. Rhone you broke me. You just couldn't stomach someone else. Soda reviews could you too rainy. How can i get thrown off the soda of us. And how can i get in line off the soda reviews. I examined vits handwriting. I made it larger the football. Eleven o'clock last night. You would have to every letter in handwriting. Other than the one of the peter. I asked biography the tape. I said i'd send it to the fellas. I said nick. Do you have every letter. Vibes does down hat and you said yes down to the lines. The line segments. How do you fuck. I don't attach the top of my knees. The stop have never will never will swell. We had to apologize. I had to apologize for for that. Big cat i guess pointing fingers at you own. You aren't the only one frank. All he wants from the guy who did. It isn't apology while you said you did it. You did not apologize rank from bottom of my heart. I'm sorry. I don't know what came over me. Accessible apologize object. Maybe it's time now that i start clearing my good name. I didn't do the buddha ben painting a that wasn't me either. Well that was a plan that buddha ben and i came up with to sell paintings it was all. It was all fake spotted. Yeah exactly everyone bought. Everyone bought all the paintings. He's made maybe one hundred thousand dollars since that ruse. It was the best marketing scheme of all time. You get a cut of that. No i did it for the love of the game. I've never stolen anything. That wasn't even me stealing putting them into impeach bag. That was An impostor that. I dressed that day. Gay pat actually wearing my clothes. Yes gave pat's been in on it the whole time. The most ethical man in the office like john bell john. Cleese huge douchebag talking les mis. Frank what do you think now that the dust the dust has settled. Trust nick again. Aren't you close nikki. Gallo yes it's a fuck you apologize. That's all you need hours to. You knew my intentions were pure. I just wanted. I wanted to do. Contact with ryan paul. He knew he was on the tapes. I had the tape full. He did ronan the only person that now he s to apologize now to his own. Well yes frank thank you. I didn't even demanded that it's I let myself be framed. Rhone you're the one who framed roger rabbit. Yes i am. I yeah okay so yeah. He's right here. I can't do that. Frank the franken never ringing until you consider this to what this will took another direction and you actually drink vinegar. I would not have drank it with vinegar hill. Never know point out one last. I was going to volunteer his champion to drink vinegar for him. Since i'd be filming it so much that he was wrongly accused. Nick has had to live with this conscious. Can't still has the fucking football. Yes he does. Football is going to be broken out for people on sunday for nick offer. Nick frank adjust busy just football to watch you guys enjoy it. You're like the mighty very wise very wise in your judgment frank. I appreciate it all right. We got that so. Let's start the show. Yeah okay What do we have on this prep show. What is the best side dish at stake. Crank set us off potatoes best. Side dish steakhouse best steakhouse. Well of course you've got to have the blooming onion true very. i'm might. You might call me a little old fashioned. But i do love the potatoes Damascus the french fried potatoes. Or if you have a steak fries. Alex we're getting out that for if you win on that outback. Night bef card. You get a clock. So i can't cover that myself. What about the rest of them. Creamed spinach. frank you'll enjoy creamed spinach not really. That's that's a shame. What if it's very garlicky. I've had garlic spring. You know what. I'll tell like the potato skins yeah cheese sour cream shicheng. I actually hate it. Don't like how you need to frame. I don't like to have cream. I love really took the name of it is kinda gross. Both those words together. Yeah neither equally disgusting. Caleb brussel sprouts. That's my one. Potatoes au gratin. Yes sir it says shrimp cocktail around here either. I don't think that that's who spent shit. Also crabcakes is crab cakes. I don't advertisers. I mean you can get it on the side but you know that's good golic breadsticks Yes what about a fingerlings potato. Have you ever had a fingerling frank. Potato those skinny little finger links like a little finger ever had. Frankly ask you this. What would be the the one thing you wouldn't wanna see show besides your stake good question. Creamed corn creamed anything. Creamed corn is good With turkey. I wouldn't want to stay category salt and vinegar play with a stacked any vinegar. No that's on my plate. What about a one steak sauce. you know. i like putting on sake garlic butter Yes that's delicious. I'm very in the mood for a steak right now. All this talk is going to be fired. The fuck up. Speak for the boys. Stephen when a when we finally do our steak dinner his frankel out to to participate. Yeah of course everyone's welcome. Oh frankie here though. Hopefully soon these restaurants can open up and we could actually enjoy yourselves. It's going to be at his house taking cocaine party. Yeah exactly all freaking retrieves. S like unbelievable stuff. Sh- goddamn sweet ass fucking episode and and and please don't get it twisted. This is a sweet ass fucking episode. So if you're you're having anal sex pop this on it'll open you up it'll relaxed the the butthole yeah. It's the equivalent of a pauper. 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Friday 1/3/20 - Paul Lo Duca Talks Steroids

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Friday 1/3/20 - Paul Lo Duca Talks Steroids

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Thanks for just five dollars when he choose monthly plan if you use the link get Roman dot com sized dog walk. That's get Roman dot com so as dog walk. Go do it make your sex life better so yes my guest today is former catcher and current barstool sports employees Politika. Paul how we doing already how you doing man do a good man great to have you on thank you I appreciate. We tied went on a little bit last night at the Barstool party had a little too much drinks. I called it a night a little early. I'm getting on too old for this crap man but It was a fun time and they put on a good Party and it was It was just a lot of fun. We get to see a couple of guys seeing From singing songs one of the guys in the office dressed up as Santa. It was fun. Men Yeah it was a great time it was funny was our standing next day and he. It said that the day before you called in because you hurt your back yes and we look left and you were doing the Deck Prescott trails jumping up and yeah. Yeah so so the date it comes around goes back. I'm like listen man. I was not just doing the deck. Do you WanNa do is shot and then David said something to me like you must be feeling good. I'm like yeah. I'm feeling good on some vikings right now and then he's making me do in shots. Jameson over here. Okay so I'm feeling pretty sky. Yeah I blocked. My back happens once. I texted Dave in the morning. He the best part about David doesn't even text you back and then he comes to morning. How's your back man? So I know acknowledged no no but then he this morning. You're like yeah in what it is. It's Brian Giles. wrote ran me over at home plate. Wow I don't even remember the put me in another planet And it broke my clavicle until like once every four years I literally if I sleep too hard in stay in one spot it just it goes out on me and it just it went out and I remember I called Dave. I called Jen immediately early in the morning zone alert. Everybody Mimi like I'm only going to be out for one day and I remember. Jen looked at me yesterday. Goes was you okay. I'm like I have a New York Dr in La Doctor. Those are the two places I live in. Obviously I played in their both the mets doctor and the doctor Dr Willamette doctor actor. He's given me so so many shots in that same spot over the years. He knows exactly. Because I've had to go to a different doctor before and I blew out. I mean when I went to let's see my daughter in Texas and the guy took like eight times before he hit the spot and I wanted to kill the Stalk Hawk so the guy here in New York knows what to do so he puts it in a tiny bit sore. Now I I feel great so Brian. Giles is completely truck. The shit out of you. What how rush me it was? He was a cheap shot actually threw the ball start a major Malay but but that was it was just a little bit more article bases loaded and it was a comeback or to the pitcher but a slow comebacker. One one of those ones. Where you really can't turn a doe play So I was acting more like a first basement so I caught the ball cleared myself. Big Time cleared myself at least three feet three to four four feet. He got thrown out of the game for it to get out of the way and he decided to run me over anyway. Like I was basically like standing there getting blindsided by a quarterback and I got up and you don't feel the pain you know originally you you're just you're so anti threw the ball Adam and charged him and next thing you know. I'm charging San Diego Padre Bench at the time. Like what am I doing. Remember caught say was in the circle. Like what are you doing in the next starts out. And then when I went back to sit down the catch Just felt it felt it immediately and I told her I'm like I can't believe he didn't throw me out but I need to go. Yeah so yeah in. That's just something I've oh no. Yeah no I hear you that Sounds rough and to link all years is brutal but you know I talked the Dave about you on the podcast. Probably temper have always been a big fan of you and just you know your whole barstools on the rundown or whatnot and I just asked him one on the dog. Walk Right now. It's like. Hey like who's like a guy that got away and Katie Nolan. I was like well. I think I think it will do good dude so awesome have you man. I appreciate that I know that you said Ah Dave and then they say well maybe we're still in the funny part at that time they probably didn't even tell you him and I were talking and I feel like like I've always been part of Barstool. Did so many things I was the voice of. Pardon my take a little while For people that don't know that and then Did the early rundowns like you said Ed This guy style. And by the way we're doing classic one This Saturday we're going to old school ones. Yeah where my face is just right on the screen. Because I I had no clue what I was doing but those are fun when when day was holding the with a while. Back a lot of people forget about that or donating realize that. And they're really fun rundowns and He and I've always felt like I was always part of our soul and then when I made it to come here fulltime I told Dave I said listen. Let me do finish out my stuff with with Fox in my stuff with the horse racing and then days like okay. Let's you know. We sat down and when he started the best thing. He's like. Listen you want to come aboard and then I was. Yeah of course very gone now. You're doing gambling content so it's great it's great to have you back in the fold full-time and You know we. We actually had the opportunity to do radio. I think it was a couple of weeks ago. Or whatever ever and It was interesting because we were talking about something was badger. And Dave I forget what it was at the moment but something was keep going he was just tired of it. He's like I'm just I'm just like I'm tired. I I don't WanNa responding where it's not that I'm mad. It's just I just don't want to deal with anymore and you said you've been similar situation kind of would like to stay right. So what Dave you have to take an on what I appreciate day for. He takes things head on But there are some some points when you take it head on you have those persistent assistant people that just don't stop and on stop and don't stop. It's like uncle okay. It's like getting in an accident. All right I know that I hit your car. Stop Stop screaming at me You know what I mean it you know so I know I cut you off. I quit. Lay Off your horn. I'm sorry okay like it's like no one. The play ends. Yeah like when people come at me with steroid wise and it's like it made my career. Somebody's careered they're out of their mind. In a lot of other things like when Dave gets criticized over things. It's just it's just stupid so like I took the same approach. SORTA Dave does is now and I think he he he learned and I did the same thing if I would have twitter back. Probably fired back like he did. And I think now he softened up not softened up but he gets to the point where it was like he surges urges ignores the nats in Hill. Go after the people that that he feels are attacking him in the right way. He has almost like me. I have a three strike policy Mhm I don't care if you fuck him I don't I don't block anybody. I don't mind words and my words you know whatever you WanNa come at me with come out with with. Yeah but don't tell me I couldn't hit a baseball. Got Hitting records all over the place. Don't tell me I couldn't play in the big leagues. I'm five foot eight every bit five eight when people see me they go And and I tell them see. You don't have to be that big to be a professional athlete. So no I heard sometimes gets to you when people are like oh he was only get because he did exactly so. It's like you still got to be able to hit you still. Have you still been my thing is like I always tell this Dave. I dropped all the time and and I remember big cat started laughing often. 'cause they did a thing on a state and my numbers right between Reggie Jackson and Barry Bonds and that's basically all I need to say to people is that I I got about fifteen or sixteen hit records Arizona when I was a fat piece of Shit so it it did not make my career and and for the record I never pest positive detective now. When did you start juice? And Paul and didn't juice I got prescribed when I got run over at home plate in one thousand nine hundred five. Yeah really so. That was ninety five. The Brian Giles thing. No that was. It was a different thing. Yeah cloud in ninety five. Yeah she you prescribed. What what was it so because with the Mitchell report what was that bullshit then that was just you know if you look at the Mitchell? They're all the same guys you know all the same guys from the same Quote company. Me I guess we would call it or agents because if you look at a lot of people will look at the Mitchell report but they also don't look at the checks the checks okay. So my name's written on a check. Obviously you don't think a a guy heads get new steroids or getting drugs or whatever in a lot of things. People don't realize is a lot of that wasn't steroids. A lot of that was we were paying him for greenies and guys repaying for For other pills to bike inns. That was a way to get it. That kind of stuff so a lot of those checks rather weren't for steroids somewhere somewhere and the uppers right. Yeah just made you. which is pretty pretty crazy that it was frowned upon? Meanwhile cocaine you could do you. I mean like and I was always another thing too. It's like okay. You're taking a Greenie. Witch fighter. Pilots took to stay awake. Trucker's Tan took to stay awake. You can get them basically on the side of the road Those were illegal. But you could snort lines so there was always we're weird things we've happing in. MLB guys that are on the forty man roster can smoke weed guys. That aren't on the forty man roster and the minor light minor leagues can. That's crazy can't so it it's crazy. He is You don't get tested for is what I'm saying. He gets tested for other things. So when we're Major League Baseball says oh now now you can smoke weed. You could smoke weed if you're on the roster coaches can't really yeah while the coaches can't smoke with listen I've had a couple come up to the room and smell it like. Hey keep it down like you know you tip the Valley Guy Enough third. They're going to keep them out. But yeah and and I didn't smoke it to be honest with you Eddie in until I fractured my thumb in Toronto And and I never took steroids in Manila season now. He's drove me nuts. If you look at me. During the season I was always fat piece of shit towards the end of the year because my body broke down. I broke everything road. Yeah in like can Saco blue could SACO made it so bad and worst like saying guys do you honestly think guys were pulling out needles in like literally pulling their pants down right in front of people sticking needles in. There wasn't going down at all. That wasn't good come. You don't want people to know you didn't even want. Some guys didn't even want their wiser. No part of the reason was my I put trust in myself like an idiot. Enro- checks like an idiot but who would have thought a guy that was sending stuff would be keeping records but you said the checks were in towards anything that could have gotten in trouble because greenies were were legal. Legal right like you could take him. You could take him by the way. There was nothing obviously start taking. Steroids is illegal but everybody was taking them. So you know in two thousand nine hundred. Ninety Eight I had a decent year in AAA and the last word said to me. Were you need to get stronger to get in the big leagues handed. A a piece of paper went and got what I needed to do. Worked out that summer and then I turned fitness into you know that was it and I really. I started getting into really good shape but that was that in but then as later on I got in my career you know I just got in more injured in more injured as I was never on it I mean I was never on it in those later years ever in my in my life and so when the Mitchell report came out I owned up to immediately so and then you get stained for something yet. If you look at all the guys that are on the misreport I would save myself. It may be a couple other guys What was the manager for the gets blowing up all the time bell? He was on the Mitchell report L.. Did they Michael Bill Belt Michael Bell For the diamondbacks red. It's either Dan back to. The reds can't remember reds manager. Right okay okay. He was on the MS report so now they're finally finally realized it and it was complete bullshit. And here's the other part about it. Listen I'm not. I work in an office. This is the Boston Office people here in Boston. But listen senator. Mitchell work further red sox and not one red sox player was on there. Oh so it'll conspiracy theory there you go all you want a lot of different things but my issue was is that dementia initial report ended does guys careers. And if you look all the guy careers ever on there. I was the only one that had occurred at the time. Most of them are gone but yet guys can can get suspended for doing it for ninety days and still sign. Yeah million a million dollar contracts hence Nelson Cruz Hence Milky Cabrera. Now it's just okay so is it just assumed so I hate when people go back and they look at Barry Bonds at bat and it goes. It's amazing what Reuters can. Do you do think that that that one I mean you honestly would fucking people honestly think they could be good as barry bonds. I challenge everybody in the world to go on steroids for fifteen years workout workout. As hard as you can and then go start hitting in baseball and you won't even fucking coming close to Barry Bonds. I'm just sorry it's the best player I ever saw. Best player ever watched play the Games awesome. It was incredible and I saw through the big years now as he on rocket fuel. Yeah but he was an amazing player when he was offered to. And you you can also say that. The ball's narrow Rockville. If you put regular Barry Bonds with these balls he seventy one runs anyway deal monster. Yeah you know real quick I say I mean. Obviously you're traveling Avenue Chicago you know. You're you're an athlete uniting some greasy before the game or something you're slowing down some like a sandwich right. Yeah of course. So the sponsor today's show is J. P. Grozny I saw saw talion sub shop enjoy. Paul I wish I wish we you know head relationship when when you were still in the bigs Italian Hall of fame over there in Chicago there we go there there. You go fame so yeah. JP Graziano Had on over there to Nine hundred West Randolph go online. JP GRAZZIANO DOT COM Christmas. Right around the corner. I mean this is Friday. You Got Monday and you got Saturday. Got Monday and then close at two PM at Christmas Eve make Sri get in there. Get Your ANTIPASTA trae. You're beginning pasta. Lots of trade talents. We take this stuff serious. You know so get over. JP's I'm sure they got some cookies over there to all the cannoli tip off. Oh you can only dip as a must see. We were a fish. I Italian family fish comes out I And then we get the pasta. I I like that. I mean we gotta get you out to Scoggins. JP's for sure on down so you head on over tippy Grozny dot com nine one restaurant off. Paul Ah you know I I do WanNa ask that like you said you were one of the only players that were active so were you Kinda blackballed like the people trying to stay away from me. Like yeah whenever sent yeah when I I was blackballed 'cause I felt like if you look at my a career am I was mentioned in over one hundred articles of being a future manager Guys I play with David. Ross me and him very close he was my backup. He's a manager. My roommate in the minor leagues was Alex. Cora I I told everybody who's going to be a great manager and he is a great manager Played against Aj hinch and he couldn't even scratch my doctorate and he's he's an average manager. So could you go to managing job right now like if something no no shot even still to this day now. I don't think I would get a shot really know because this was way too much I think a lot of people You know I got got some calls be catching coordinators stuff like that And I you have to put in the time. He has presented dedication. It's it's a lot a lot more than people think you're around your baseball family more than your regular family numb and you got to babysit twenty five kids now. I look at it now and I'm like Mike. I'm so glad I didn't get into coaching and I. I like coaching fourteen. Fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen year old kids But there's a different Lutheran coach in adult. Yeah because now we're in a social media world gotta keep these kids off twitter. Which listen I was that animal I gotTa keep these kids off twitter? GotTa keep these kids out of clubs. I almost want the go-to strip clubs because there's no cell phones allowed in Strip clubs so they don't get seriously that's why most athletes do go in. That's what made Joe Torry the best you'll toy was not the best tactician at all He ruled out a lineup that was given to him but he was the best keeping his players out of the newspapers which giant here in New York and in managing in being almost like their second fathers and a lot of these kids. 'cause you know when you get a lot of these Latin kids that don't know the language guage that great Day Lean on a lot of people and I think joe is so good with different personalities which is tough to do. And that's what you gotTa do to being a manager. These guys don't manage more. You've got to manage these personalities. All these kids are different. This different tweeting nist or tweeting. That you gotta let them be either own person Because if you get in their way that's when they rebel and that's that's been basically life overall but now in the new Millennium Rick Talks about me but now the new baseball way. These kids are the way they want to brand themselves. You GotTa let let them be they wanna be so you almost got to be somewhat of a father figure but somewhat of a prick gotta be like that between which is tough to balance out and then you gotta go home to your your wife or significant other after that attendance. He take the losses home with you in. I always used to sit back and think about it in like brutal. I took the lost his home in in in. Sometimes sometimes you know on Mondays were days roff. I wanted to arrest in those. Were the days where Your wife or your girlfriend wants to go do something and I. I wish I had that backwards. You know I would change a lot devoted more with I'm y wife and my daughter just like you're just so exhausted You you don't realize that and in it's it's taxing so I don't know if I want to do that again And like I said there's no way. I don't think I would ever get a chance but if I could manage I really feel I would be a phenomenal. I do I just. I was always one of those kids that was thought. Three three moves ahead Watch the baseball game. Because my mom was a baseball junkie. There was a baseball game on twenty four seven in our household and I just in my brothers were both good players. My middle brother is probably a better player than me. So It just my dad played and my dad at age sixty. He could hit bullets. I mean he's eighty now I mean Seventy seven now and so. Yeah we just. We Love the sport. We still talk about My Dad's still can recognize talent now. It's just crazy it's just something night was in my blood or something I was born with. I can't do your taxes. I can't do anything else. I just always could hit a baseball. Yeah and you mentioned earlier. You know Jose Canseco like do you hate that guy but he did. Don't you know he he's not. He's written six books. Whatever I look at it this way I just make sure I can sleep at night? Yeah you know. My father always used to say that to me Miss you can sleep at night sleep with yourself and I hope me. Maybe Jose does sleep with himself but what he did outing so many guys And I mean and he didn't he he did he turned it into a freak show. And it's it was. It was really weird weird because a lot of guys reactions is they wanted to kill him you know. And then then I played with Sean Green when Sean got traded to the dodgers and he he would just tell me how goofy Jose was and he actually liked. Jose and Sean was clean as can be he never took anything So I- softened up on the situation but I don't know he just. He just went row. He went off and we wrote Francis for awhile. I don't know what the deal was and it was obvious that his wife was on them to when she did the playboy shoot. I mean it was just crazy. I don't know why he was trying to bring attention to that. I don't know I still don't understand the reasoning behind it but but then again we're talking about a guy that blew off his own fuck enhanced so yeah yeah I mean the intelligence level's probably not that high. Yeah for sure and it was. I just remember reading that book as a kitten hidden speed like my my job is just dropped. Man You know put the Paul Ike is now. It's to the point where a lot of people are more accepting I feel so it's like if if someone wanted steroids I t to Kinda that's their choice for for their benefit. You know what I mean. If they WANNA do that they have a big league career to help their bigly career. You know. Help their free agency signings. It's like that's I don't know I feel like it's just a different time now. We're and I know it's still not accepted but I don't know I feel like people are more. You know everyone wants these guys in the hall. Dude Dude I mean the thing that could crazy about this whole thing is is that nobody ever talks about but ceiling. Shaken can Roger Marris's family when when Mark Maguire was rounding first base breaking Maris's record but then when bonds broke the record no Nana Nana. Now he's cheating and it's and it's Henry Aaron because Seelig new. The heat was on them but two thousand two if you put it perennial is probably the most profitable year in. MLB history the Sosa and mcgwire. You're trying to tell me they both didn't look like they're on rocket fuel Samuela like an NFL. Linebacker am I am Aguire was six five both ways. I mean we used to people. Use visiting teams used to go out to watch Mark Maguire. BP He hit balls at a dodger stadium him get them him in Glenallen Hill. Hit the middle of the scoreboard at Dodger Stadium. I mean you can't even hit a five iron up there. These guys were arrest new at the time. Of course everybody anybody new I mean you can go on and on for the guys whatever guys went from from thorne eighty seven ninety seven a lot of guys. That's what this this this this this guy's benefited a lot of guys didn't a lot of guys got hurt. That was the one thing everybody's like wall if yeah but it didn't prolong your career over time. You got nagging injuries because of it. You know if you didn't take care of yourself. was there a lot of guys. I assume that round the other end of the coin where like man. I'm all natural like fucking steroid guy. Oh of course yeah I mean like I you know like I always used to feel bad for Shawna. I think that Sean had may be the best one of the best years years in in Dodger history when he hit forty. Nine home runs The Guy didn't even drink caffeine really. Yeah and we used to try to get him drunk on the plane. We never even get drunk and just a nice kid in the world and I think got misunderstood the way he played. I think a lot of people thought he didn't care and when he cared more than anything And he was really good at hitting an en- really like worked on his craft every day in an taught me a lot actually made me a better hitter because as as I got older in my broke a couple of my fingers and I broke my wrist I wasn't I didn't and have the same pop and I didn't have the same. You know swing for a couple of years in lake thin about four at really good year no six. I had a really good year and unlocked had to do was running into. Sean helped me on really working the ball the other way in starting to use the whole field a little more because and learning to take my shots to hit home runs Because I just didn't have the same pop after I'd hurt my hands and stuff and anti became a better hitter than you know. Those years I did over three hundred two out of my last three or four years before I sort of fell apart and broke my hand again in in. DC So But I learned a lot from Sean I e one. There's one guy always felt sorry for because I know knew he was clean and he was facing guys for sure so all right. We're near the hair Paul's or anything you know is there. Maybe a couple of guys reserve deserve a big feud that had because Jerry fallout server like known like all I can say go on like this guy like they had allow for blood ever since that he named them or something like that. No not really you know. I don't think so I think guys sorta over it Noun it's it is what it is We all sort of know who is has been putting hall of fame now that was on it and I think the riders so to know but at some times at some point. You've got to put some of the men. I the the problem is is that the guys like Berry Berry would've came out and said yes I think they might consider because his numbers are just so unbelievable. But when you keep denying just just like the wrong thing to do I think petted handle it right way. If you look at it you look at it. Jami impedance admitted immediately. The steam has been off them. You don't even hear about Jeremy Anymore. I mean Meena Jason Anymore to be honest with you. In Andy is still in organization they owned up to it very quickly Giambi was really pumped that Well I mean he was a big boy. I mean he understand those guys were to forty to fifty hitters in the minor leagues and all of a sudden boom raw. Aw so that much of an agile while it's not that much Menaj but if you you know are good contact hitter and you can move forward obviously with it And you know without you know. It's it's hard to sit here area in. Say how the numbers are going to be skewed. Because I look at the baseball now and I could hit fifteen home runs and in my prime with my eyes closed with this baseball. I've I've gone on. I've seen it. I've actually take batting practice with it before it city so But then all these kids are throwing a hundred miles an hour but that was my strength so I wonder how it would play. It's it's different. It's different ballgame now. They're changing so many different rules so it's turning into arena baseball because there's no rules of taking guys out so the defense is getting worse and worse so in hittings getting better and better. Hi Paul thanks so much for doing this man I appreciate it. Arthur government politic. I have a nice weekend. We will catch you on Monday.

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Raufeon Stots | MMA Roasted #579

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Raufeon Stots | MMA Roasted #579

"So we I do. Reading the marriage was very busy. And you know, like you said once again for your favorite mixed martial arts podcast recording out of Los Angeles California off with Hunter that guy off the podcast Chang waiting for Joe waiting for mccorkle's waiting for everybody. But bucket, let's have a show dog, like bucket. Let's go. It's good to be here man. I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. I had a great Thanksgiving my my family. My my my I went to I was in the mountains with my wife's family and like Man, like somebody had a joke that if you ever had like one day to live go to forgot where he was like Chattanooga Tennessee because that one day will feel like twenty-five years. Well, that's exactly how I feel like I'm like this day is never ending but it was fun. It was her family's great. If they just don't like, you know, they were grandparents like born-again Christian Mexico Trump supporters, and there are wow, how do they feel now that you get there on the phone with their friends from church praying that Trump comes back and like I said, they would like all get together and pray and I was like, why do you got to be on the phone? Like if it's if you're praying, isn't it? God you're praying. Thank God can hear you. Yeah, I think he's everywhere. Yeah, why is he on the line right off? Unless like what if God doesn't have a good connection and why wouldn't he have a good connection? He probably would but no I think the Trump supporters and the people that are praying. I mean just just like Fighters just like yo, You you got to help that's it move on but they were my my kid, you know, like I always pop my wife's back. My wife has like as a bad back. So she likes out every night to pop my back. So I step on her birthday. I I sit on her back at this posit, right? Like right, you know the cracker back and my daughter like loves to join in like some like oh, I love you Mommy and she comes took the both of us cracking about. Well here we are like Thanksgiving dinner and there's Barbies everywhere like a Barbie and Ken and my daughter goes. Hey, look, this is Mommy and Daddy and She lays a Barbie down. She she had a cat and his honor and she goes off like I'm like everybody everyone's like I'm like, I'm just like and then montego's stopped stopped and then he goes. Oh no keep making the like the background noise like the background was like well or or I Saw, Mommy and Daddy bumping uglies. Yeah, so that was dead. How is your Thanksgiving I know with well, I only have one relative out here. So I hung out with my brother. We we watched you watch like old fights like really old fights and what Sugar Ray Leonard like the best of Sugar Ray Leonard and just a monster fucking monster. I mean back then back then he was a monster and I didn't realize how Hagler had made such an impression on both. Oh, yeah and walked away in his prime. Yeah. He just said, you know what? I'm good, and he walked away. I swear. I feel like some UFC fighters when they're older. I think that they should walk away a little earlier because you can see look at Anderson Silva just constantly just not where they are. They're just not as fast that twitch muscle reaction is not there. It's just fucked up. I feel just saying that's down and watch the Mike Tyson. Well, okay, so I got invited to the Tyson Ranch to watch the fight, right? So me and my wife went to the Tyson Ranch actually watched it with Ray Leonard Jr. With Ray Leonard son dead. He was in the room was like Babalu was there Bas Rutten Kelvin Gastelum Uncle creepy. Yeah. I saw the photo. I saw the photo you rockhold. It's funny cuz we walk in and there was a valet there and they were testing everyone for Cobra that you walk in and get to be on like you have to be on a list was a pretty high security and Luke rockhold was by the valet getting tested and I was like, hey Luke, I'm like, oh hey baby. So I guess you're working Valley enough and like if you know Luke rockhold, he's like the most arrogant like I love them great guy, but very very cocky and he's like, oh, yeah, I'll take it up with your jokes man, keep it up and like, you know, he was he was laughing but I got him pretty good. And then it Kelvin was there with his with his girlfriend and it was killed in such a nice guy. Like I and I told him I thought his jokes about you and my special like who's going to get to 270 first is going to be biting as you can Trump is going to be Kelvin after dinner. And when I was telling him and then his girlfriend was laughing and my by the way, Told me to roast it uncovers like once I told you one after that, it's like again, you know what I can say Bunches of the face, but I can't say punchlines a lot of these. Yeah what time but he was such a nice guy. So we're watching this fight and I got sewn and everyone always talks to the Mike Tyson weed and I didn't believe it until I smoked some of this weed because I was I was smoking crack and I'm like, wow, you know like sometimes you just like like I'm high I smoked but my gum hi, I was like, whoa, and when I get that high I get almost like not goofy. But like Pac-Man member that time and that's how I got like nice like so kelvins there and kelvins like so where'd you go to high school and I started talking about wrestling and how I coach wrestling and how how how how much it's totally means to me and how like, you know, I was coaching this kid. That was his chubby kid that was crying because we practice and and I helped him out. I told the ref and I just, you know, he's about to cry in 3 seconds. He was already crying, you know, and I gotta like giving birth. Have talked and then six months later. They could win the match and I was coaching when I started crying and Kelvin Kelvin was such that the right guy to tell this too because he's on the same wavelength. I think you know, but he might have been smoking mm. You both were high telling wrestling stories. This is hilarious next MMA. I was crying and any fucking one bro. Keep looking one. Yeah, but it off by the way cuz I'm friends with Tysons manager and he told me all kinds of stuff about that fight but that's might first of all the rules kind of helped and ruin the fight because the rules came out Monday of no knockdowns. If someone gets cut they're going to stop it if anyone gets hurt the stopping it no judges that sort of like cuz Tyson would have took it out early in that fight was clearly in better shape. He wanted it more he trained harder. He was the bigger fighter and like you say Anderson Silva's like it's off. Is his over the years his speed speeds the first to go and you clearly saw Roy Jones did not have the reaction the fast-twitch by Roy Jones has arm-length off. Tyson was pulling his punches. I mean, he was hitting him as hard as he could get a body but he clearly avoided Roy Jones his face because of the rules and it's also funny that everybody was like, even when they saw the roles they were like, oh tight it's going to be second-rate place not gonna do this the guy bit some of their everyone's expecting Tyson The Break The Rules. He's the only athlete in the world where you'll like him better off if he cheats and breaks away. No other sport you'd be like man like, yeah, but if if the guy you know, he's he's going to hit the quarterback after the whistle blows ten minutes later age attack eleven everyone. Like I said, you're like no. I can't wait for that type of people love Tyson. They want him to break the rule and I thought that one Conor McGregor then when he find a flawed he was going to flip out and just throw some elbows off. And just all of a sudden just just walk in Camp kicking like 15 times. No, you can't do that people people wanted that I am but they're crazy. It would have been funny if like they put the rules up like a month before the fight started like if everyone paid and they were like here the rules and I just thought it was I thought it was sad. That's why I watched highlights. That's not it was just said it wasn't bad. You should look great Tyson knew he could have knocked out Roy Jones. He he lost the first two rounds and but he won round 328 pretty easily Android Jones clearly was exhausted gas. And then I talked to Kelvin who has made the same trainer as Tyson Cordero and he's like, oh Dario Cordero enticing to like, you know, what train this hard to not beat the shit out of somebody like so he clearly was like no fuck these rules. But at the same time he he didn't his face and he was pulling his punches. I know but it off. You don't think I mean, he's fifty what 54? Yeah, like Fifty four and fifty six and whatever the fuck they are. They shouldn't be fighting and there's all kinds of different scientists. The people are now helping with their bodies that whether they're legal or not. That's that's that's you know, so he looked and it was obviously he was Tyson obviously was taking some kind of supplements and that's bullshit. I just said so you would give a whole bunch of old jack up a whole bunch of old news and not everybody going to think they could fight over 60. Let's go bro. I was in like this like private room with like cuz it was all the way to go watch the fights and and it was like Stevo and all the people were like on top of each other. I was my wife and she was like cope with it all time high right now. We don't need to be like hugging people. Let's go to the separate room and I was like, all right, cool summer watching the fights better not right and I can see everyone as they were going to the bathroom. So if anyone I knew this away and we were watching watching the fight and then Babalu comes in and Baba was like, hey, maybe mind if I place And I'm telling you first of all, he stood for the national anthem. Like, you know, it's always weird to play the national anthem in your home with your family. You know, like should I stand and not Sam he was the first one to stand back like I gotta stand to not that I wouldn't stand it anyway, but especially like I'm like, I'm going to sit down it just seems but your input you're in a relaxed situation. I don't stand for I don't either because it's like I'm at home. It seems like people from other countries that are here are a lot more proud of being from there than as a married and and I was off on the fight. So I'm here with McCorkle. So Babalu stood up so I wasn't going to not stand up once Babu sit up and I gotta stand up to do when Mike Tyson came out. I love I don't even know about lose. You know, I met him at night. He was like a six-year-old. He was like, he was like it everybody turned back to the point where they were like ten years old watching Mike Tyson. I mean, I feel like I can't believe this is happening. I can't believe it was almost like we were at a better a better rate. I'm telling you. It just seemed like a say like saying old man fighting that shouldn't be fighting but you did order it, right? I want no I didn't I didn't want to watch people were texting me and calling me and like a menu watching fight. No, I don't want to see I felt like this was a scene from Django where the two brothers was off. And and and by the way Snoop Dogg, I hate his MMA commentary cuz it doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to boxing. He's pretty good cuz it's not that intracranial you can sort of like it's like easier to understand right but instead of God should not be announcing any fighting a federal then it's ready to he goes looks like my old uncle's try to get the job. Tell him to stop he had some funny ones. So I mean you watch the Tyson fight. done say me from AT&T my new house here and I couldn't order it wanted me to call a number. I was off from technology from nineteen eighty-five trying to call the order a pay-per-view, but I end up just streaming it and my internet's great here. So I I was only catching like three seconds at a time which it was mainly just Roy hugging Mike the entire time. That's all I can stands right describing. I like what I know Roy, but he should have fought if he's going to fight that you know, like I don't I didn't think that great a nice place to put a knock them out if you really wanted to Yeah, I think he was saving his best jobs for the body or not to hurt him. But Tyson, I'll tell you what man for a guy for anybody but a guy his age. He looked amazing and like I never dreamed at that age that he was supposed to move like that swing like that. I mean, he did look like obviously not twenty-one-year-old Tyson, but he looked like close to thirty eight year old Tyson, you know when Tyson was done. So in the better he lived on you guys you guys so long and you said you don't see that this should this way simply to happen. I was on board until I saw that Chang and maybe make it help but I'll just have high school. I was on board with your philosophy until I actually watched it and I was like, you know why this is fun and wash it and Tyson took it very seriously. If Tyson would have came in the same shape as Roy Jones the fight shouldn't happen. Roy Jones looked like he trained for like a month at best and they got rid of it was what was that? I've tried to get Roy on HGH for years. He won't do it. He absolutely won't do it. I'll try to tell me about HGH and how great this he won't do it. So well, there you go. Now the fight that should not have happened is Jake Paul vs. Name Robinson this yeah, there are so many problems in this fight and we're talking about it some obviously it was a success but Nate Robinson is a guy an amazing athlete college football player, you know NBA basketball player Dunk Contest winner that he's a guy that you tell him. No reason a big know I can do it. If you tell a guy who's five foot eight. He's going to win too slammed. If you guys don't contest people going to laugh at them on that day Robinson. They Robinson's Geico that he proved everybody wrong, but he bit off way more than he could chew cuz he called out Jake Paul. It wasn't like Jake Paul's. I want to fight Nate Robinson. He wanted this fight and he trained for about four months and you know, you can't train for four months with a kid. Who's been training for three years and embarked calling them a YouTube Star. He was also a high school wrestler pretty high level high school wrestler. His brother place in the state of Ohio is a really good state for wrestling wage because obviously athletic trainer sugar-free mostly and Nate Robinson did not know what he was doing not to mention when the fight started. He just charged him. He had no it looks awful had never sparred in his life. Now this happens all the time, but people don't know what they're doing when they haven't sparred they have no amateur fights physical like amateur boxers have them amateur 505 $200 device. So they finally could become Pro. They don't just fucking flip out and snap, but that's going to happen the guys like CM Punk and Nate Robinson and the other guys they had them had that experience. I went out and watched some of his old training kind of like, how could this be that bad? He had guys holding them. It's for him. He had guy he was running 10 miles. He was doing the kettlebells and doing all kinds of birth. What he was not doing was sparring it did what he was doing any spying which and it showed what he should have it during the entire time. And if he and I blame his coaches his coaches should have thought here's what happened. I watched the video his coaches were like, we're not fighting or wheelchair or fighting Jake Paul's. First of all as a coach that pisses me off as a middle school coach. I tell my kids. Hey guys, even if the worst team in the league, these kids are gunning for you. They want to make a name off of you. You guys better be ready treat this match like you would if it was I wouldn't say you're not fighting Jordan Burroughs your wrestling and Berkowitz. I mean, that's that's like exact opposite way. You should be telling people but it was it was all blood then why do you act like this was a real fight song wasn't a real fight. Jake is not real if he got a new what the average boxer that's a real box when you get a house and made should have been we shouldn't have a 10 e-juice. For not wanting it does like a street fight where you notice you're about to get your ass beat. He ran face-first I wouldn't fucking knocked him out saying what do you think? I mean according to God man? I don't know. I'm trying to figure out do you know how the Paul Brothers got famous to begin with? I'm to detach to know. How did they get famous to be good idea. They were big YouTube Stars people thought that like wage. I think Logan was a cute kid the good-looking kid he to do all these like stunts on YouTube like prank my friend and this and that and they somehow got really into the verse I guess. Yeah. Like say oh, it's a YouTube Star know. I'll tell you what. Boxers are able to approach him and his brother both looked I can fight a little bit man. Like they really can they I mean they don't I mean Logan I watched his his boxing match was shocked at how good he looked you know for a guy doesn't box or has them to do it a long time, you know, but I figured getting famous. Let me just take the traditional route like befriend a comedian who has a big podcast just wait till your way on his show all the time and then try to Parlay that into a career like brandan child, but in auto insurance, I got famous and then I think they've been in trouble a couple of times in the car off. So yeah, but it's I mean you can't I mean you can't make it in there and they actually move pretty good and it predicts it don't I guess it depends on what you're talking about what level but for guys that are trying to be professional boxers. I guess they are trying to give it a long life. They don't move too bad man. What pretty good Ryan Garcia is like one of the best in the world says he that Jake Paul have seen him spar with like real boxers, and he doesn't get killed off. So obviously he's training with Shane Mosley. He's up in Big Bear. But here's the problem now, right? So this kid's got what twenty million followers got a big big reach. So now what do you do? You put them against a kid? That's prank. I don't know 19th and California. He's going to get killed, you know, some some like young hungry Mexican kid that from whatever that's like, you know fifty thousand alternate for the Olympics. Is that a killer right? But that kids got no following. So do you only put the kid now in Celebrity fights now since that fight here people have called out Jake Paul Lance Stephenson with a basketball player Rick Fox said he wants to get back in shape and Jose Jose. I would watch every one of those I want to say British British on fighting like Jose Canseco, I mean, How old is that guy I mean, but I think Logan's banging his daughter. I try I try to I try to find Jose Canseco late my career. I got offered a fight with Jose Canseco. I said absolutely so I I absolutely do I check when my back was destroyed. I still want to fight Jose Canseco just say I did but he he backed out wouldn't do it, but I was so excited. Why are these real? Why are we? Okay, these are real Fighters. These are real Fighters. I don't give a fuk if he's looks good on most good. Hey average fucking fighter some Mexican that's lifting weights with bags of rice when fuked him. Well, shouldn't be fighting McCorkle who wins a fight. How big is Jake Paul was he like? He's 190? No, I don't know any way to go like he's like, he's almost 200. Yeah, Canseco when he fought the one time every time he threw a punch. She was like a dog like he was a victim of his own momentum, you know how like of a pro wrestler hits the ropes they just ricocheted back and forth till they get stopped by a clothesline. That's what Jose Canseco watch while he throw a punch and do a complete spin again with the punch would carry off to a circle and you would turn back around like it was so great. I think he's a black belt in karate according to him or something so but I mean, but yeah. Yeah, I mean, but I think there's a lot of things according to him take off his daughter. So like you get paid up by the brother and the other kid bangs your daughter like, that'd be a rough night for Jose can say that's a rough night. That's a rough life. I just felt I felt like the whole the olive it was was off of force. It was almost comical to like I gave Conor McGregor and Floyd a little bit more credibility, and that wasn't that credible. Yeah, you know, I I think Well, I've had people say well you're just a you know a hater on I'm like no, I think they're both great Fighters. I think that Floyd would get destroyed in an MMA match, but guess what in boxing coach Ben askren legitimately wants to fight Jake Paul now if bet as I pray then ask for an after hip surgery does not do this fight because if they had an m a fight been asked you with Malin he would even even with you know, Jake Paul's boxing skills and would take a punch or to grab him take him down submit them. It'll be a rap probably a minute or less money in a boxing match. I hate to say it but I think they pull would beep at a screen the boxing match really in a box bed asked his hands are not good. I mean he's off and the guys training six days a week with Shane Mosley in a straight separately training with a Old Shane Mosley, but he's still a great trainer. I mean, he's a great trainer, but I'm saying yep. Difference is a difference when you would hungry fucking Lions. I hate to say it in straight boxing. It pains me to say this. I think Jake Paul Hood shown the corporate. I'd love to see that same thing. I've never seen any of aspirin stand-up. I would have to think he's smart and trained a lot. But then again such a great rest of maybe he knew he didn't have to cuz he's open around their back anyway, but it's generally never seen him Spar never seen a stand up at all. But yeah, I don't know but I love to see it. There's a lot of magazines like and I would love to see man. Like I'm I love his celebrity boxing Manute Bol felt fought the refrigeration and like you guys remember when Willis from Diff'rent Strokes beat up the hill that was like some of the I was dying those nights, you know, this is legal and I loved it off like that from really what a lot of choice to watch two guys that can't fight fight that you guys that can I think a lot of Fighters disagree though a lot of funny, who's the best female boxer in the world says game That he said never allowed to fight without headgear. This is bulshit like that. You know, a lot of Fighters are saying this is making a mockery of boxing and at someone's gonna end up getting their life brain's bleeding for a week, especially against Jake Paul, even with as little skill as he has a lot more than everybody else. Who's not a boxer. I don't know. What is with these old for the first two years were pretty good words. The first two guys real Fighters the first two matches, I mean never have YouTube start when I was a former champ like, oh they were the first time being forced to fight the night. Yeah. Those are the one of them was a huge mismatch. The guy was a former chair. We just put a put a 13 and a club fighter and the first fight was actually pretty good and the wrapping either though. The wrapping was okay to make you like the wrappings. Oh, wow, Adam Adam you definitely change. I'm not a fan off. Listen, I'm a purist but if you're if you're going to make something to make it a circus making a complete circuit, you know what you're like fucking bring out the clowns know everybody that's listening is this is not the atom I knew before now, I think I don't want to watch Like A W Main Event with like real boxers and Jake Paul, the other card but if you're going to make fucking two guys that are fifty-year-old ex champion, and then you're going to actually have rappers. Then you're going to have a YouTube star football quite an ex-basketball player in fucking make it a circus. You know, like if you're going to like, I think it's a mockery. I think that if I was a boxer I would feel like what the fuck are y'all doing to our sport? Yeah. I think it's a mockery if if like you had it on any other night, but if you're going to make a Legends League where my boss is coming in stone and then all and and you have speed weed or you have Weedmaps plastered everywhere. I mean, it's just like come on but let's talk about anime because Anthony Smith, I think wow. 1 John either I thought it was such a man such a circuit like the only thing like this is probably like when Shane's doing comedy and finds out Britain's jobs. They had I guess what a joke that might well I would have said with The Comedy Store and one of the comic said so they're putting you up before him. I said, yep and they were like, no, that's not good. And I know I absolutely aren't him to the ground and I had to follow up I had to probably already I can follow Neil Berlin. I mean we're different bout but I'm telling you right and he was funny as fuck by the way, but I'm telling you right now man. He just when I say he ate a bag of dicks good Lord, but people thought he's the kid or whatever the fuck he was pretty bad. It was packed. It was the main room at the fighter. But anyway, The other guys. All right, super happy for Anthony Smith. He needed a win badly. And I think people underestimate his ground game. I remember when he did that like 5 on 5 MMA. I forgot what it was. It was like all these like leagues but it was like the pride guys were the UFC guys versus and like sakuraba steam. It was kind of cool down past but Angie Smith, like beat like Five Guys in a row and people were like, whoa, you know, I think that people really underestimate his Jiu-Jitsu and Devon and Devon who dead was a really good fighter, but he he just can't get out of that wrestling mode as a wrestler. You kind of have to know when you're in trouble. You have to know when to bail out and so many guys in essentially just need to stay keep the guy pinned even though they're in a triangle and it's just that sort of like kind of I think what happened, but good for Anthony. He needed to win Devin Clark didn't look bad. He just got caught a triangle. But then you could say that with a lot of Fighters. I mean you just if you get caught you get caught so I don't think it was I don't I don't give Anthony as much credit as hey. I got caught off. He didn't look bad. He didn't look bad. I mean look he did. He came in he took he took the guy down. The guy was like a D2 National Champion wrestler Anthony took him down. I mean, but the recent Anthony the reason like you saying well in his Jiu-Jitsu he hasn't shown it enough because he has an implemented it enough. Yeah. Well, I mean, he looked good. I was really happy for him super happy for him. Now, Ashlee evans-smith is so frustrating to watch because there's a girl who was a four-time that four-time All-American wrestler in college. He's got great wrestling a big imposing girl, but she wants to get the Striking contest and lose his fights where I'm just like, oh, I understand that other girl was a black belt and you're a wrestler but there are ways to take the person down Against the Cage dead. And sort of have you the advantage of this ground and pound and not get caught. I don't know what she was thinking you have to be able to adjust and the first round she realized she wasn't winning the Striking contest came out with his right now cuz you gotta hope plan b or a plan see your plan D. I think so many fighters are so stubborn. They just like no I'm going to catch him going to catch the person and I don't know if it's the corners job or what George McCorkle. No. No, it's a coach's job. Yes. Absolutely. Your coaches have to be in your ass and say you're losing at the stand of go to your fucking suck or I'm throwing in town. I've seen like where people actually were you saying we need more about like exactly what shame that there needs to be more tournaments. Like if you do not do something different. I'm calling in you're going to lose because a lot of them, like people get mad sometimes Fighters are so stubborn, which is maybe what makes them part of makes a great fighter, but they just get stuck on Thursday. Then and I think as a quarter before like that and I'm like what the hell is wrong with you? Like? Why do you just keep you know doing the same thing like you just and they get in their head. They're going to knock them out. That's the way it's going to be but it really does seem to be like that. Sometimes man. You really do need to say like I'm going to throw town if you don't start slighting if you don't start doing what you're supposed to do cuz some people are just headstrong. I don't understand man. I've always been surprised like it's not going to gets really really good Jiu-Jitsu black belts. It is not that hard not to get submitted a fight if you just like if you take it by down if you're not side control stand back up, you know, like as soon as they regard just get back up or just a just a parallel to them, you know, like keep your head and their chin and stay low. Tom Erickson show me that there's nothing you can do if we're just adjust my head's in your chin and I'm on top of your not going to submit like you're not going to do anything, you know, you guys have room to work so, you know guys just I don't know I wish saying I'm going until after she told guys that before like I'm stopping this fight if you don't do something different man, because it's you're embarrassing me you're embarrassing yourself like it's ridiculous song. I think a coach and the and actually your team because you gotta your team has honed you to get certain way and I've seen fights. You know, who I I watched one. I watched I watched a bunch of fights. You know, who listens like a fucking perfectly Mighty Mouse. Yeah. He just goes okay make adjustment do this. Okay, and so then but look at his greatness, if you look at it, it's a combination of his team and you know who didn't listen Cormier. Cormier trying to get he even said he beat himself up because I know I should have listened to my team after the first fight against eat that he he was more mad at him. Like he wouldn't he didn't listen then he did and yet you're right. I'm a Mighty Mouse and Matt Hume. They just had that relationship where you know, he it's like he's stuck with him and he took him from what you know from here to there and he's so coachable. You're right being coachable is so important. You don't give a credit deserves a man who is a genius when it comes to fighting humans are really really good coach mean exactly really good. And if you look at if you look at my team miles career, I don't care what they people say. Well, he didn't draw enough, but I just think he's he's like when you talk about pound-for-pound, even though they didn't give his him and I think the credit he really deserved. He really took should have been in the conversation every fucking time. Of course. Well he was but by the way, Jake Paul called out Conor McGregor Dillon. Danis will get Flatline by McGregor fight. It'll be one round even in boxing even in boxing because boxing he called out Dillon. Danis. I think he'll be doing that as a boxing hate to say it. But I mean Sean, I mean you fought aren't there guys like I like Jake Paul, how do you see him doing against? How do you see his boxing skills compared to other guys in the UFC's boxing skills. I mean there's it's hard to say really cuz there's guys that look I haven't seen Jake fight very much just the other night, but they're guys that never work on their stand-up. They the big thing about like birthday cards all day. But like you were talking about a once a big Nate Robinson, you could hit pads all day as far as a whole different world with friends coming back at you know, if you don't get you guys sell guys don't far enough. They start turning away from punches wage are closing their eyes start, you know, like Flinch and because they're just not used to those strikes come out and you know, but it's an unfortunate part of sport you have to spar and you have sparked hard, you know, when you're getting ready for a fight off. These guys should get knocked out every week, you know, not showing that but you got a spare hard in there man, you're going to do it and I would sound like I like doing dance who seems to have no stand-up like it doesn't seem to be interesting develop any I would I would but I would say probably even match if I had to guess, you know, like I guess it dance is working on a stand up but you gotta keep in mind to pulse looking great because he's against guys that are you know, major obstacles know what he's doing job. Anybody can look fantastic it has any boxing skill get somebody that doesn't know what they're doing, you know, so I know that he called out Adam twice and Adam hasn't responded yet. He called me out. I think you would pick you out. He said he wants to go with you but boxing a straight wrestling being funny, but it's about Jake Paul in a straight wrestling match. I'd beat him. I think you know, he's got some he's twenty-three. I called you out know he's off. He's very funny. But yeah, I don't know. I was like she better jump on that man. Like so like wage people get aware. So the valet Frankie Edgar right? He's got good boxing and for MMA, how do you think he would do in boxing boxing just straight boxing? that's a good I think that bacon bacon hanging could hang with I mean I mean you saw the guy was Thirty know just a club fighter even look terrible the other night, you know, so the guys like Adam everything Frankie Edgar on the local circuit can be undefeated, you know, but when you you step up against some guys, that's why I will always save my life man. I don't believe for a second. I think Floyd Kerry Conner those Ten rounds or whatever. I think a Floyd if you wanted to anytime he wants to knock him out first round, you know, there's just no way there's no way, could have gotten off the boxing to be to hang with the best ever. You know what I mean? Like, I don't that's like a high school basketball player to play against Michael Jordan like at his prime it just there's just no way something Floyd carry. That's why I didn't throw anything carried off make people feel like they got their money's worth trying to set up a rematch, but I bought some could box you before man. And I was I was my standard wasn't good, but I couldn't touch him and my son couldn't touch him. I literally cannot connect to punch against a good Pro box should not even hit them their distance is too good. They constantly keep just the right distance. They move their tricky the way they move, you know, that's why everybody was saying ties and you know, like give them a hard time off. Roy don't even a 51 year old boy jumps knows how to maintain distance and stay away punches, you know, he hasn't forgotten that you know, so but it's it's a whole nother way, you know with a good Pro. I've been with a couple of good prose man. You can't hit him as a life that my best I couldn't touch it pretty good make Land one punch. So so a good Pro MMA fighter just joined this roof be honest. How are you man? I'm doing good, man. How're you doing that's on your birth to win over over over keighley Kevin his brother. That was a great fight. I thought you almost had him in the first man. I should have took him out in that man. Tried to very tough. It was tough. But you look good against a good fighter, you know, sometimes like I think it's it's easier to look great against not so good fighter, but it's hard to look up against a good fight it so I said, I'll give you a lot of credit. So now what you're what thirteen and one now or something 15 and 1:15 and one damn crazy crazy off. I thought it was a rap. I thought initially I thought you're going to take him out. I really didn't think it was a wrap. And then I was telling my boy. I was on the phone while I was watching going. Oh, that's a wrap and I actually walked away. I thought God it's over. Yeah. Yeah gotten forehead, you know when the kitchen, sandwiches with this is bulshit. I think that it's let out of out of Moses it obviously but I'm saying I think that when you go against a good fighter and you sit and not that good it just raises your fucking stock for sure for sure. Thank you, man. Appreciate it man. I want all of next month will I was I'm stopped calling Joe's Gala cuz I feel like I'm picking on them. But no Leandro he go after like would be a good match up for me. I was supposed to fight job. That would be an excellent fight if I could get that fight again, you know, they got they got some some Russian do Mark Madoff Madoff. I'll fight him think he's a tough matchup who else or patchy mix, you know, any of those top-tier guys, you know, I'm I'm aiming for well, you're going to be a tough out near wrestling is is amazing a striking has gotten so much better. Yeah. No, I need to I need to find somebody stuff to your guys before they really get a good good. Look at me. They're going to start off an answer before a while before you know for too long. Did you watch the Tyson fight over the weekend? I did I did watch it. I said Tyson was pulling some of his punches. Do you agree with me or not? You know I felt that way in the beginning. I felt like you had man ties the name really wasn't it? But at the end I felt like when I see him like biters glove one song. I feel like he like at the end of the fight. He was working toward the middle of the fight. He was trying to get him. I did you think he was honestly but only for the body though, right? He wasn't trying to hit him in the head. I feel like he was if you wouldn't get tied up. I feel like he tried to feel like no I definitely think he was like eating the body more or try and hit the body more or whatever but it was a walk you through to the head that like miss you know that I feel like was was trying to it was under he was trying to end up and he's also he's also 54 years old. Like I found it funny like people are like man. I ain't trying to knock each other out. Y'all want to see some old dudes get that already probably got brain damage. You want to see about getting that unfortunately a lot of people watch I would just like I just couldn't watch it. I was like d still just too old, but I watched it out of the respect for you had accomplished. I wasn't watching it for like watching it for like I want to see a good fight. I was watching out of Expect out of for what they had accomplished early in their career, you know, so I felt like it was like a gift together fight like a you know, a nostalgic like moment. Like I I wasn't watching it for to see any of them. I really need to get knocked out to be honest. You know, I just want to see people like move around, you know saying laughs a little bit as a black person. Did you feel like yeah, a lot of people took five people took a huge step back with a Nate Robinson fight. Oh man Nate Robinson set us back in a couple of movements that I move back a little bit. Like now man. I respect me, you know said I just I just hate, you know saying that the I mean had to lose that way and I don't even really like all the you know that the message is for the the means of stuff. He's they're funny but it's like he stepped in the ring. A lot of people wouldn't do that, you know saying he stepped in there with a dog After the kid is athletic and he's been training and he's you know, he's got some raw talent. So yeah, he I don't think he should have been in there. I don't think he was ready to be in there. But you know it is what it is, I think you did the way he's the way he was talking. He said his back I'm going to do it for the leave us out of it. Leave leave the coach out of it man. Who are you doing it for yourself? That's cool. You know cuz you you pertaining to be something you ain't going to do it for all the kids out there and my people like probably hates his kids off now. Listen my was the people training him should have told him. This is the bad man. You're not ready and I was watching I went back and watched some of em, like some of the training that he did that he did and I feel like a lot of I don't know. I don't know like who are these people around him? You know, but it seems like yep. People were trying to train him as if he had like he had box for years, you know for for a fight which I feel like he like he was doing like Mayweather type of like defense and Mayweather is good at that because he's he's had hundreds of amateur fights and you know, he's he's been in there with with top-level people and he's he's home style of fighting or whatever. So I just felt like he was kind of LED astray with where he was and like I didn't seem like there any sparring either like it's yeah, I don't see no I didn't see that's fine. But that up man. It didn't look good. You know, it didn't look like having a sparring and you put a guy in that situation. He's not going to know what to do. Right. I mean, maybe exactly exactly I mean like you got we're doing the sparse Soldier comfortable in that situation of sparring, you know wage. Somebody coming at you, you're making the right decision because us as humans, you know, actually everything we do when we follow we supposed to do when we're fighting. It's kind of the opposite of what their brain and wage. You're human nature is telling you to do somebody's punching punching at your face. Your brain tells you to like run away from it, you know what I mean? And a lot of times that's like the worst thing you can do or you know, like wage your hands out or put your hands, you know what I mean? So yeah, I think mine is I mean, it's super important it again people turn away like the way yeah look away from home instead of going forward are trying to move and I just see that I go like a lot of people can look great on the bag around the mid. Yeah for sure you look for sure or in pad way you can hit eighteen punch combo, but if y'all know what to do when somebody is coming at you with punches, it's going to be a tough time. Like he was just running it kind of birth. CM Punk did yeah not too much money. You need to chill out amateur fights. He did first fight. He's like his Braves like I had been hard as you can and yeah, like hey, man, let's let's relax a little bit. Let's yeah, let's Circle, you know, yeah. Yeah. The other thing is it's a it's a different Channel, you know, even with spawn is still a different animal than being in a keg or being in a ring, you know with somebody under the lights when everybody watching this it's a different animal wage is the name Jack he's made he's basically made you didn't get knocked out here and for word describing so pungent. Come on Thursday. Interactive done, you take your time off 30 minutes in the Octagon without getting better than 15 minutes the first part last name like a 50-inch. So 16 minutes before Mike. What's his name? He thought the young kid Mickey Mouse. Oh now now now now now my screen you say he's been calling out Jake Paul and a boxing match. Yeah. I I love Ben askren. I think in a fight been asking destroys him in a yeah the boxing match. I don't know. Hey, you don't know and everything they had never saying but ask your home. What do you think? I think he'll beat the shit out of Jake Jake Paul in a boxing match. Yeah, really? Yeah. Okay. There you go. I take everything back. You you back because you've seen Ben's as far as boxing. Yeah, I've seen bands by the thing would ban is being is good defensive or Granite everybody going to bring up that that that flying need but you're not being as good defensively boxing. You know what I mean? Cuz he's been he's he's been getting a smart guys like Anthony Pettis time Willie, so he's comfortable getting hit at you know what I mean? So I think he's I think he did to sit out of Jake Paul to be honest, even though you should be a year out hasn't worked out surgery and may he would have he would obviously like trained for. All right. Maybe you wouldn't be it. I don't know. Maybe I'm way off. I hope so because now all these people are clouds, you know as crazy as he would make more than he made the whole let's see also, so you think he said he would get you could you make more money so he would make more in that fight was UFC fights combined to so most likely million dollars for that. He got half a million. Somebody said, yeah and pay-per-view buys something they got half a million. That's amazing. Yeah, but having amazing, but even if you trained I mean women have we we've never seen at least his hands. I haven't seen Ben's hands in a lot of stuff because his wrestling so great. Yeah because I mean that's the thing. He uses his wrestling. Like he said nobody could get past his wrestling so he didn't have to use his hands. Right? Right. All right. Let's talk for a second Rachael ostovich. Obviously, she's four and six but she's smoking hot dog. The New York City shopkeeper, right? I mean just you know, she's know like she saw girls that hot you can't cut it for ten more fights. I was today. I'm Friends With Rachael ostovich. I fought her off her ex-husband was like in jail now now I don't know if he's I don't know where he's actually but yeah, I think they should keep her just they'll friends with it. Okay home you can smell because she's hot, you know, basically shoot me but she's going to say that I'm a I'm a married man. I didn't say Rachel off like my wife said she was half so I can say she got the legitimacy of the sport. You gotta keep her because yeah you can you keep it legitimate exactly that hot dog. Adam you are a totally different than yeah. Yeah. So you gotta you gotta you gotta look at it record, man, you gotta look as guy and and you know, if I record like right now it's insulting to somebody else that like right now you're fifteen you're fifteen. You know, I'm saying it's insulting to those people that are doing the real work man. Have you seen down on a trampoline bouncing but I would watch it. I definitely did a fans-only attach it. Oh my God, I bet I bet you she go to bed. But yeah boss fight you fight like that's the problem with I think sometimes you know, UFC Bellator doesn't do it as much but you have seen doesn't we don't bring somebody in you go. I don't know if that person should bring Isabel her doesn't do that. Are you also doesn't doesn't do it like who they do it with. I mean like the birth. Guys are like I mean, I I friggin like the wrestling guy the guy from WWE Jack Swagger, but you know just got off so you have seen pretty good though. He's actually better than like other people. All right, so so he's actually and he became Velasquez in college wrestling. Now, let's talk about and the fiber Jack hermansson. Despite Marvin vettori. I think it's a better fight. I think Victoria's going to beat her if it's in the other guy bailed out was who had got got covid-19. I do. Yeah, and then he like for them in like the at the hotel at the hotel and then if I got canceled and then they they fight again. Yeah, he's tough. He's super tough job. That might be a better verify. I think I think Barbara's going to win. I think hiding Hermanson kind of got I would say lucky against Kelvin Gastelum, but Gastelum has some kind of brain lapse with that fight where he seemed like what do what do you get on weight? Each them submitted them, right? Oh ankle. Yeah. It was a weird. He'll just lay there and ask for like a menu and like let the guy like fucking I don't know what he was thinking now and took his time. Yeah. It was weird McCorkle. You're you're the best better in Indiana. I know you're sleeping right now. But who is this fight wage? I would say a permission because I have never heard of the other guy. So that's how I usually bet if I've heard of a guy or not know. Yeah, I don't know what have to see the wage more than the other night. I literally only knew Two fighters out of the thirty guys on the car or whatever was twenty-eight. I was like, I've never had and I watched almost every six hundred Fighters now have so many fighters off the same five Hawaiian guys every week that are like budget. They like they have the line likes like spiders like I'll fight again next week. Well, yeah month-wise the fight the bar. Yeah, they're going to fight the ones that are smart is when if even if you take a five short notice, I know it's money and I get it but you don't know what that dude. You should have a training camp. That's why everybody that was dissing me on Twitter with the fuk fuk all y'all by the way. Let me make put that out there if he had more time. Other than a fucking week he would have he definitely would have been better. Who's that? Who's like he doesn't he doesn't match. I guess it was. Okay. Yeah. I thought that was a weeks. I was 7 days notice. He did what he didn't do really well for somebody who you know, imagine if he had a full Camp. Come on man. I think got a full copy just don't look and safe getting the same kind of zombie better off with fighter. It's like the dead him. I think he's the only guy is going to look good against this month because it's like the same fighter. It's like a guy that can go five hundred miles an hour five. Yeah, you know whose mommy home more power, but but the wrestling is pretty much on par. Yeah. That's that's everybody else is just you can't that work ethic and that fuck. Yeah. You don't think there should be a rematch. You don't think it rematch. Oh Colby because because I think they really well against each other. He was getting. Oh, yeah. He did have a rib injury. Thank you. I appreciate that. It was fine cracks harder. I don't you guys but that was around where were like Kobe pin them down and hit him like eight hundred times in the face. Yeah, but who did you say but towards the end and find it towards the other Fighters when you show what's up what you and I will be right now versus Kobe. Oh talking about goosman Kobe Remax, we knew about what happened. There we go. We've already discussed that. Okay. Wow. Okay. Wow, but that was dead. Serious face. Okay. And 1/2 personal Madam. You should take the fight with Jake Paul. That's all I'm saying. You going to do it. I'm sorry the rumor I put the Twitter out there Adam hundred calls on Jake Paul. Yes, if I'm off. Yes, it was like a follow-up orchestration. Hey, make some make a poster. If Rufus a strange me. I'll do it. Come on. Come on, Milwaukee I go to bed right now. If you don't find Jake Paul, I need $200. That's it. After after three months of training. Let me know if I'm not going to win. All right, so let me get in there with brown. Hey, I mean, I mean that's probably the case their life. I mean the fight you only get paid to fight, you know, so the train is only get paid when the fighters fight, so I'm assuming and they just hoping for the best everybody got a puncher's chance. Like I don't look good, but she going into something different than All right. Let's see. God damn for the girl who says you can't win like I mean, she told me you can't win see telling me can't well that's really cared about the only one that really cared about his health and his life everybody else. Like hey, hey, you gotta do what you gotta do you get like smarter wage. Just read in Rocky one by Rocky 3. He will call her and I don't know. I'll tell you. I'll tell you how someone so when Rocky were Rockies first going on a date with her. He's talking about mobster dude, right and the the Mobsters buddies like hey, I heard retards love the zoo. Take her to the zoo. Like you keep saying that right and then a rocky to he's going to propose to her. He takes her to the zoom like he really does this advice. So wow, it's really funny and and that won best picture if you had read outside now, they couldn't do that now. Yeah, it would not work on a Best Supporting. She didn't go full retard. She only go for Rita never took it off course. For the Oscar Best Supporting retard. I can't be involved with this interview wage. So there's a guy who's fighting this week. Ja Mahal Hills and he's eight know with like it's the guys knocked that everybody he doesn't need is the name of sweet dreams. Oh Jamal. Yeah. Yeah, he's fighting. He's like the worst guy to bet on each time. You think is it away any losses? You think it'll be wins? You got that right out. There could be a good fight. I mean they OSP is basically the gatekeeper now down here like top. Yeah, but I don't see how how good this guy really is ain't no versus overseas workers twenty five and fourteen a lot of fights. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah. This will be a test for my think but it is good. It's real good. Yeah, have you ever train with them know I've never tried with him. He's under the same management as me. I think so. Yep. Watch a lot of this stuff before I took a alongside of them. I trained alongside of not not with these huge also need to train as fighting who who looks like someone just injected him with like 19 pounds of meth before the guy that was like punching himself during his last fight and it's crazy about Dana White Gable have like a restraining order against them off. What do you say I am from Russia 13 an oil man. They must want to get rid of need to train. They're not they're not giving this guy any favorites from Darren Elkins to this guy off. If I Darren Elkins before that, he he actually he put what's the name is brother and lost Gilbert burns his brother. He lost two. Oh, yeah, but yeah, I will see them until 5. I mean I suffer was Russia is this do is from like the Deep South like we're talking. Yeah, you know, there's like a, you know, not many teeth involved. So he he's got a hot blacklight by the way to just trying to take the train. Yeah. Let me go check his Instagram. But is that another situation that I can call people to the Lions? What you say that having a black wife? Look at 2:00 a.m. Our time? Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, they have thrown a guy thirteen and O from Russia. The I mean those guys are usually pretty tough, you know, you know, you talk about life. I mean they were saying retard strength, which I don't like to say but Russian strength is a whole different level of strength to wrestle bears and fucking trees and different kind of strength. It's not it's not like you rest of these guys. It's just like it's like trying to move a keg. Yeah. It's just best. You know, what's crazy. That's what Cormier said about. Khabib complete. They said that he's like wage. He's just like an immovable object. Yeah, he's yeah, but they're also usually pretty slow but like but it works for them. You know, like they're not like off of that like fast-twitch high explosive like cuz rest is so cold and hard and fucking yeah tough. Just breathe tough muffins, you know, it was a month. I don't know if it was it was somewhere. I read that most of the the wrestling national champions came. Majority of the wrestling national champions are from the the colder States makes sense. But also like in the whole wide August and he goes when when you do well in wrestling or fighting they take care of your whole family. Yeah government like you're set for life. So yeah when I woke arrested and turkey and Bulgaria and then they the they had like like once you were I think like five or six and you so like promise and read they had a whole like they would yeah uproot you and pretty much put you in a school like where you learn math and other stuff but you're there for wrestling like at five and six years old. So that's that's all you're doing, you know is wrestling or or whatever the sport is if it's gymnastics if it's you know, whatever it is you so promising you imagine how good we would be that was the case off? Yeah, I didn't like like they don't like basketball. You're going to basketball school. Yeah, just be murdered off Mom and Dad don't eat. Oh man. Well, listen, you're hilarious. Merry Christmas coming up. Yeah. Thank you, man. Black Santa Claus this year, but my family well, I mean, I mean what your record I'll be right now. Does that mean that you show up in February off? That's off whenever right? Okay, but I think that the pantheon right now man. I can't see unless you do some crazy like kill a hooker. You should be fine, but I think I should be good job. Like I stay away from the focus like you are now and and the fact that you are still on point and you're not like getting to like everybody gets distracted like I've seen yeah, I think they get distracted. They're not as good and I wanted to ask that's real quick everybody even though an advance on my plate on the same page when I said that's just on the show before about Anderson Silva Bush and just stopped. I got so much fucking hey, well, you know what? They signed them with one once they're going to sign him. Just thinking oh, yeah. Supposedly he's in the rematch Vitor Belfort. Oh snap off speak. No, come on Emerson Silva happy. Are you serious or joking watch it. I would not watch that Anderson. Silva should not fight anymore. They're going to be rotated out of their minds. It's going to be it's going to be awesome. It is probably Just say when I thought yeah, I was brought it out my mind off the best UFC pass on I think bare knuckle boxing passed on them. But what I've seen is like bucket come on down later. We should help me with the fact that they picked him up. I just think it's I think that he's such a great he's head. Like if you look at all UFC fighters or MMA fighters or whatever M A fibers he's so up there a way you can stop and everybody still would be like the guy wants to fight fucking. Yeah. He wants to fight you you are you or two different dudes cuz honestly do I think date of birth? Sign up. No do I think that the but if the guy wants to fight and and he's fighting Vitor Belfort who's also fucking past-his-prime and yeah went out of their minds then fuck it. Like you said, I think so too. I think I think Let Them Fight. Yeah, I don't think he should be fighting the top of the division of any organization. But like if I like that I watch just like I mean Tyson and fucking and Roy Jones say it's probably just look at it at the same video m m m a version of that. Yeah Legends off pretty much. I mean, what what's your option? Did I said sad depressed fat walking around being a trainer train other young Fighters. What are you talking about? The train of a young Fighters? He obviously thought that's an option, please like fuck you do that. That's that's what I'm saying is a certain point age-wise where you know, you're not as fast, you know, you're not as strong. Yeah. Yep. I heard that's the hardest thing for fighters to do like know when when it be done cuz they I'm I'm assuming just like like on pads are inspiring like you feel good. You know, you feel you know, you best feel like you know more Study hard to do some of these guys like Richard told me he's beating some of these guys that are winning UFC fights. Yeah, like he's like, well what the fuck why are there but it's different. It's different. Yeah is this month? And then it's I mean, yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's hard to like judge how good you are depends on like, you know, like our people taking it easy on you are people, you know, your training Partners. So right I said have a great holiday sharing your the best you win dog, and we last McCorkle fix your Internet. I feel like an edge of your man jokes today to do something like in and out no more than a stand-up job.

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Mason and Ireland HR 3: Big Dreams

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland HR 3: Big Dreams

"I and here we go. And it's time for fast-track. Let's see John. One side of the coin the NBA Playoff Start August. The first other side of the coin plant screws up somehow causing the air. Let's play August. I always worse talking about futch fast. Track all right guys. I have a list of the top selling. Nfl Jerseys right now on NFL shop dot com in the top ten. They're only four players three. These players are so popular that they have multiple jerseys in the top. Ten Home Road and alternate. Can you name the four players in the top ten and you can work together on it? Okay so I think Tom Brady has to be one of them. 'cause Tom Brady has number three. The buccaneers Pewter Alternative Vapor the number four the buccaneers white vapour the number five the buccaneers red and the number six. The buccaneers red eye uniform. Four he has four of the top ten selling uniforms. Oh by the way number. Ten is buccaneers pewter alternate so he has five of ten crazy four five six in ten. Or Lindsey together. Let's I'm kind of thinking to I'm thinking to hear I heard his Jersey's really popular. Okay let's go to to a number one and number two Dalwin into one and two dolphins aqua to as Aqua Jerks Aqua Jersey number one and number two is his White Jersey his dolphins White Jersey. So that means the top five reads like this number one number two number three number four Brady number five. Brady number six brady. You're just missing. Seven and eight seven. The Guy who has seven also has nine and then you're missing eight so you've got two of the four case a one guy's got to in one guy's got one correct okay. Was there anybody else in this draft bow? Who's the other? There's two in the other quarterback in this off. Yeah no borough player ticket borough Joe Borough there jober number eight his bengals. Black Jersey Joe Boroughs White Jersey is also number eleven soon. You're only missing the person that has seven and nine seven strikes. Okay could it be a cowboy cowboy? Jalen hurts now. I don't think so. I don't think. Jalen hurts just thinking quarterbacks Any other quarterbacks change Tinos any quarterback shapes fill rivers. I don't think they'll rivers would be there. He Changed Teams. Let's let's take a shot at. Let's take a shot at Justin. Herbert Charge forget it. No Kate so no oh yes. Let's do good good good strike one but it was a good guest. Justin Herbert's new charges. Jersey is ranked twelfth. Okay so you just outside of the top ten but NOPE. That's only one strike. That'd be a Charger Jersey on and does not have to be number one though it. It will not be a charger jersey. Lindsey read the room read the room. Sheffield he was he was like last year he watched last year. Is He a little post type? Let's try Baker Mayfield strike to Baker. Not In the top twelve. You have one guest left. Okay I think call how. `Bout the how `bout jared stem. Yeah quarterback Patriots. I feel like a lot of people though are still not running out buying. Because they still don't overcharge starry right. The Jersey is a hot item. Right now okay. Let's let's throw throw out. Hick yourself when you mean we really yes. I don't think so. Mason says yes and you have struck out all right guy. I think huge name change teams number. Seven and number nine belongs to Rob Gronkowski about him. Did THEY EARS. Future alternate is number seven and the buccaneers read is number nine. You guys actually did very well. They're unable to come up with GRONK. Yeah that's it all right. Let's see I'm going to do this one. Let's do this. Okay John. In that one America will usher in an era of spice spaceflight next week and discovery and the science channel are offering a front row seat the networks will share live coverage of the May twenty seven launch of space XS Falcon nine rocket with Crew Space Launch Live. America returns to space starts at eleven. Am Pacific Time from the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral among the guest lineup for the program are for some reason. Katy Perry and a bunch of former astronauts. The show will also feature an interview with an astronaut. Who's on the International Space Station? Where the SPACEX mission is actually headed. Do you think so think about this. This is the first time that we're sending somebody to space in a really long time. And they're offering a full access. Look at it this is Elon. Musk company. Do you think many people will watch the live? Launch of the SPACEX flight Or is it just people just not interested in space? It's a great question. I'm not interested in space so watching but Michael Thompson will be watching for sure. He loves rockets and planes and stuff like that. I'm going to guess this does do a fairly big. I think more people care about it than don't I just don't think it makes for great television. You're just kind of sitting there looking at the inside of a rocket ship and there isn't a lot of of action there so that's why I wouldn't be into it but are you going to watch it. Yeah I mean I will have it on here. I'm I've got my house set up so got a TV. In front of me. As I'm getting ready for the show I can certainly imagine that at eleven. Am On the twenty seventh. Which is next week? I will put it on. I want to see what it looks like. By the way this is the first private company. Never do it. They've been launching rockets space. X This is the first time Elon. Musk is actually sent people up and they're going to go all the way to the International Space Station I actually. I'm kind of intrigued. By the whole thing I will definitely put it on now if he puts Katy Perry in the spaceship news. And it's like a reality show then I'm all over it like I have. I don't have a good answer for. Why Katy Perry as part of the coverage because she's Katy Perry? It's like four four as rats. Katy Perry she has five million twitter followers. It's putting Kim Kardashian on the show flow. Lindsey said something interesting are Elon. Musk and Katy Perry friends. They are right now. Could be the reason I know Katy Perry's having a baby with Orlando Bloom. That's her boyfriend but I don't know if she's friends with Elon. Musk their friends boyfriends husbands. Whatever our friends Something all right so anyway. Katy Perry part of the coverage. I'll have it on. Its next week. We're going to space again. All Right Punch fast. Track all right. Mace former Major League baseball slugger. Jose Canseco posted a series of tweets. Last week about how he is going to be. Teaching Dream Control seminars. Here's what he said quote. I'm going to teach dream control seminars. After you get your masters in dream control you'll be able to enter facility where you'll be put in a coma induced dream state for whatever time you choose and be able to do whatever you want with no restrictions whatsoever can. Saco later Added FIRST LESSON IN DREAM. Control Ask Yourself. Am I dreaming as much as possible? Once you ask that question while you're dreaming you will know what to do. Limitless power in dream control a gate to another life and quote. I have many questions here but I'll ask just a few. Would this even be a good thing? A lot of people dream big. But then you wake up and you're back in whatever your life is. Would you want to do this well? It reminds me of a couple movies inception. Obviously which is a fantastic movie by Christopher Nolan where they put themselves into a dream state and then they fight these battles. While they're in their dreams total recall. That was the total recall is another one Flatliners is the third one where people would actually die from it and then see what the afterlife was about. I don't think I would be the first one in line for this. This sounds a little bit. Dangerous inducing yourself into a coma so I would not be up for this. Well that lead to myself to the second question. Is there any possibility? Even a one percent chance that can Saco knows what he's talking about here or is this just a money. Grab like would you trust? Jose can say with your mind I would not trust Jose Canseco I think that much of his life was a science experiment using PD's and various other stuff. I'm intrigued by the idea. I'm not saying I would never do it but I just wouldn't be the first one in line to do it right and even if I did agree to do it I'm not going to. The Jose can SACO Dream Center. I think I would go to. Let's say an actual doctor. Why would I trust? Jose can SACO to put me into a sleep induced coma. I may never wake up what I will say. This can take out. Do you remember dreams? You don't sleep much. No but here's an interesting thing about dreams. Do you know you always dream in black and white and do you know that did it? Okay you do. You always dream in black and white and no dream ever lasts longer than thirty seconds. That doesn't seem possible angry. Google theory none. I mean these are White House that scientifically proven it. Will I mean I I actually did? I googled dream experts. And this is what dream. Experts say came up actually says while most people report dreaming in color there is a small percentage of people who only dream in black and white twelve percent of people dream in black and white. Everybody else has color have really boring dreams. Because I'm always dreaming of black and white but what about the thirty second thing? Is that also bogus? We're getting this information uber facts. Well that's wrong. Dream airy the dreams may occur during stage asleep over these things missed less visible. The drink can vary. They may last for a few seconds or approximately twenty to thirty minutes. So they'll do perfect lied to me. You are are passing along unbelievably fake facts about dreaming. Jose Canseco story was real. He actually believe that Dream Center. I remember my dreams very clearly and you know I often go back to exactly the same places like my dreams like. I definitely go to New York. I have a lot of dreams where I'm living in New York. I have a lot of dreams where I'm at Bowling Green and exactly the same place so I dream at the same places. It's always different story for year. Old Sleeping Love Sleeping and I love dreaming and I remember my dreams really clearly for years my recurring dream was I showed up for a final completely unprepared like I got there. And here's the final. I'm like what what are you talking about? We have a final a day and then I woke up and found out. It wasn't real. I have no idea why that was a recurring dream for me but it was a lot of years. I would say for probably five years after I got out of college and the whole time I was in college so I found odd dreams fascinating. I love. There's an episode on Netflix. On that What we learned serious about dreaming and there's all kinds of theories and whatnot. Nobody really exactly seem to know what's going on. But most people believe that. It's your just your subconscious thoughts that you can't actually dream of anything that you've never seen before. Now that's interesting by the way the recur. The A lot of people have the recurring finalist dream. It's very common that you either forgot. You didn't take the course unprepared. I I'm not. I'm not sure what it actually means. I'm not sure alive. I'm in school or I used to. I still actually like recently. Had A dream where I'm at the radio station and I forget how to run the board and how we have to go the air and a totally forgot how to around the board. I don't know how to get us on the air because something crazy like my my mind was fried or going to school and not like you said not knowing. What's on the test or even that we had a test? I've a lodgings about school interesting all your dreams I think so I think when I come in the middle of a dream I can make myself go back to that dream. I'm always when I wake up in the middle of a dream. I'm like Damn that was fun. What the hell why. Yeah no serial killer chasing you you get yourself out of it. No but I had the whenever you run where you're running down the dark hallway and you just kind of our loss. I don't know what that indicates that one I have. I have one when I lived in New York. I always wanted to go to the Friars Club. I was never a big enough deal to go to the Friars Club. I often have dreams where I'm at the Friars Club in New York. How do you can hang up but you know what it looks like if you're not a lot in it I've an image. It's like a big bank with shine there. There is a seinfeld episode about this. Was there or Jerry goes to the Friars Club. And he didn't bring a sport coat and he has to wear a sport coat and then he loses it and it becomes. That's basically the episode. But yeah maybe that's how you knew more coming up next for you may look seventeen. Espn I rolling on with fasttrack and thought shits to you fast. Track all right. Wfan in New Yorkers reporting. A Yankee Stadium will become a drive in movie theater in the summer. It'll be a combination of a drive in movie live music concert and a card nine in the festival. Like event will happen every weekend starting in July. They also say that the sage will be lifted an emcee and hosts will stream from a PA system to dial go directly in the chew cars. Now guys would you be down to go to one of these if the if they was local at dodger stadium now man. I'm looking for stuff to do. Now wait a minute. You won't go to a restaurant but you'll do this. I'm in my car. I'm in my own car. You're completely socially distance. You're in your own car. You bring your own food. No I think that the idea was you would get food from the people a Yankee Stadium. Sharing probably should the option to buy concessions. And if you don't want you have to like food trucks out there. Maybe and then if you WANNA buy something from out there or would you go to a food truck no no? I'm going to bring my bring my own food to see the concert. It's like the Hollywood bowl tra I don't want to go out and mix with people right now. I'm not mixing what was socially distant and you had a clear path to get there and they were limiting the number of people that waited in line. Like possibly I'll say possibly what if they brought it to your car. Yeah Oh that's another thing. Yeah what if Brian Good idea? Well I was GONNA say if they're bringing into your car. Aren't they violating social distancing? That's what I do now. I go drive to pick up food and they have everything set out on the curb and they just hand it to me. I think it is a fantastic idea though to see a concert or to see a movie in a gigantic parking lot with an elevated stage. I'm I'm all for that. I mean whether food food or not I'm GONNA bring my own booze. I'm going to bring my own. You know what I'm going to bring my own dinner and I'm GonNa have a party in the car while I'm watching Bon Jovi. Or whoever springsteen perform or if. I'm seeing the the new James Bond movie I'm all for it. Yeah I would be willing to give it a try. Sure why not. I mean who knows? I think we've got to be willing to try stuff that we maybe never would have considered before car. You're naturally socially distanced. Yeah I would do I would you? I'd love to do it. It sounds like something. That goes on in sermons ballet all all the time. It's called Cinema Park. Basically where they go to different parks and we put on a movie. But it's just your cars. Hey by the way it's being of people handing you food like if somebody walked up to your car and handed you food you get somebody that this is something or nothing. There's a there's an urban plates right around the corner from where I live. That's that I don't know if you guys have one of those by you but they're really good and so I walked in there to pick up takeout the other night and I I had a mask on and the girl behind the counter I pre-ordered so my food was all in a bag. The girl behind the counter handed me my food and she didn't have gloves on. She had a mask but no gloves. I looked over to the where they prepare the food right and those people had gloves on. Is it something nothing that the people handing me? My food don't have gloves on Nothing there's all kinds of research that goes back and forth on this because a lot of people say well. If you're wearing gloves constantly throughout the day you're being less cognisant washing your hands and your any germs that you may touch with the gloves you you could be spreading onto other surfaces. Because you think you don't wash your hands as much so that's why. I wonder why I hadn't been wearing them. Because it makes me super hyper aware I bust my hands. Okay even if I agree with all that my thought would be if you're handling food in any way shouldn't you have at least those cheap plastic gloves on but the package not the that? That's that's how I justified it when I ate the food. Yeah she's handling money actually not supposed to be using gloves because I prepaid so I picked it up. Yeah but yeah. No I think I think as long as she's not handling the actual food she's okay with no gloves to actually hand you a package. Like I'm assuming one order GRUB or somebody to come over here. They're setting a box down or a bag down on my front staff and ringing the bell so I know it's there but I'm assuming they weren't wearing gloves when they dropped off the bag yeah permanent. Yeah all right Lindsey fast check. I had a little bit of the game free is. We've been talking a lot about this squabble between the billionaire owners and the millionaire sometimes couple hundred thousand air players on my found a recent article that had a list of all of the all the MLB owners and how much they're currently worse. How much the team is worse. As far as the the principal owners of the teams on. So I'm GonNa ask you guys which one has more. This is the book of paycheck. John Ireland's book and I'm GonNa give you the name and the team and you guys tell me who has more. I'll start with you Steve. We'll go with John. Fischer of the days or John Middleton of the phillies goad John Middleton of the Phillies Okay. I also will go. John Middleton of the phillies French Milton Phillies. Okay they're all right even though it's close by a Billion Johnson which billion apart when you look at all these these billions numbers together. It's kind of funny when you consider them close all right. We're going to go with the less than one billion dollar bracket okay. These guys are considered quote on for four hundred million dollars. Yeah Hunt couple hundred millionaires. Let's with Ron Fowler. Padres and Stuart Sternberg the raise old. Both cheap I will say Ron Fowler has more run fowler the PADRES has more I'll say Ron Fowler of the padres says more French padres owner. They're all incorrect. On that Ron Fowler is a five hundred million dollar man and Stuart Sternberg of the raises an eight hundred million dollar man boy. They're both cheap couple of war as we'll we'll take out of the blue collar working class. They just broken a billion give or take. These are very very close. We'll go with John. Stanton the mariners or John Sherman royals owner. I will go John Stanton. The mariners didn't the royals just get sold. I'll go with the royals guy. They did just get sold. Yes Anti Chow Go. Stanton futch and Mace are incorrect. Janis Right Yeah. You gotTa have a bunch of money to buy a big point. One billion one billion okay. Let's do one more one more here. Here's never liked my games pursue one. That's for all the marbles from the one percenters bracket okay. Now this one's really close. We're going to go with Charlie Johnson of its and Ted in Mark Lerner. The nationals was nationals owner. All right I'm also going the nationals owner John. I can win it because I'm ahead if I go to the nationals owner. But what fun would that be? GimMe the giants guy. You're actually right anyway. The giants has point one billion dollars more than chatted Mark Learner of the nationals. How much would that be point? One billion one hundred million a hundred million guys talking about their lack of money losing money and much in this again just because it bears repeating the guy who owns Amazon. Jeff bezos is worth a trillion dollars. That is a thousand billion dollars. A thousand billion dollars than remember sane amount of money fasttrack coming up next for Mason and Ireland seventeen. Espn I roll it on with fasttrack and French to me fast track Raucous Texas beach event known as go topless jeep weekend ended with two people hospitalized. The nearly two hundred others arrested on various charges. The Sheriff said charges included assault driving without a seatbelt. Dwi public intoxication. The brought together thousands of jeep lovers and four wheel enthusiasts along with people who joined a bunch of topless women by the time the gathering ended more than one hundred and nine hundred ten had been in custody. Numerous unrelated chargers Texas reopen. The beaches may want after shutting them down because of the virus. Pandemic of video from the weekend's festivities showed many of the attendance partying drinking and topless and not practicing social distancing. John have months of Quarantine. Made us just frigging crazy. Is it possible that this is post quarantine behavior why are you hating on go topless Texas weekend? What is wrong with you in? What do you have against the top list of Texas? This is an attack question on your behalf and I won't scan for it. I as always stand for the topless people of America. What is wrong with you so they got into GPS? They took off their top and they just let things chance. Who are we to say? No Yeah I think there is so much pent up craziness. I in no way endorsing ignoring social distancing and all that stuff you're Texas topless weekend. I'm afraid they're going to be more events like back. Go Topless weekend in Florida. You've made it up no totally totally real totally real in Texas go. Topless jeep weekend did happen. Yeah I am a little afraid that there is so much pent up energy. That stuff like this is going to happen all over the place Lindsay what do you think will this be duplicated anywhere else? I think it will and I was actually just going to jump in and say I heard a clip of I guess just the news report of what happened as far as the go and what you hear these people talking and just whatever they're doing out there on the beach it's makes me feel like. I am Dumber for having listened to it. I guess to find so if you are hitting on jeep total Polis Texas weekend. I'm not hearing on it. I just think that the people that they chose to put it in this video might have been a little too tops or something. I Dunno a pretty yeah fudge fast track or guys next week the NBC. Sports channel will air a series of old Saturday night live episodes all hosted by athletes. One look at the schedule. And you see a ton of starpower Michael Jordan. Lebron James Ronda Rousey John Cena Tom Brady. Peyton Manning Eli Manning. Jj Watt. Andy Roddick are just a few of the people who will be hosting shows. These are all old shows obviously but there are two athletes. I haven't mentioned one has hosted three times and another is hosted four times. Can you name them both? Go hosted quite a few times naming peyton manning. I mentioned Charles Barkley Charles. Barkley is one. He's the one who's hosted three times and the other one. That's four four times more than any other athlete. Ever four-times wow. Tom Brady is hosted it. But I don't know he probably was. I mentioned Tom. Brady tell us what sport it would give it away. But let's just say I'm surprised Lindsey hasn't gotten it. Oh interesting so it is Brian. I mentioned Lebron. You mentioned on one of the shows. Yeah Lindsey hasn't gotten it so it's somehow Cleveland Related Lindsay. I'm grind play I. It's not Cleveland Related. I would also think funchess would come up with this. Nba No no all right. This guy is now known more for being an actor than an athlete. But you know it's John Cena four times YEP has hosted for no no. You're right it's the rock. I'm sorry John. I mentioned Johnson. The Rock is the one who he's mentioned four times. He's one of four times the rock by the way every time he hosts. It's funny each hilarious. He's unbelievably funny. Yeah in boy. He's now known more for being a movie star than he is isn't he? Suri is absolutely is one of the most bankable stars in the world if his name is on a movie it sells worldwide. It's Johnson that way. That's why mixed them up for is not as big. But I'll tell you different. Yeah he's a totally different comes from a completely different area era of wrestling to whereas Iraq was the top of the world and Seino was the WWe in general as a whole wasn't nearly as popular Al- popular as it was seen as it was during the rap. 'cause rack which is everywhere. I think San is getting there so the ultimate compliment in Saturday night live hosting is if you're in the five timers club. Yup and the Rock. The next time he host will be in the five timers club that is reserved for people like Tom. Hanks Steve Martin Alec Baldwin. Those type of people and one more and the rock is in yet. Cena's in a really funny movie called blockers very and it's funny. I also thought was good as Amy Schumer Boyfriend. Trainwreck entrance very funny. He often plays that character. Either that or her ROIC action here. That doesn't have whole lot of wines. I don't think that he is anywhere near the amount of talent as far as an actor. Does I agree with the rockets. The is one of the single most charismatic actors. There is right now. He's he's so frigging good all right fast track. It's time time for mystery voice. It is Lindsay versus John Terrible Office. Let's kill all music. Your name is your buzzer voice. Number One Mike. Right now. Muesli Lebron. It's yes Lord that was from Zoo Collie let me have that one. How John Run here is mystery voice number two? I just prices a lot about done John. Oh I thought I had it. I don't I I'll say deadly. No all right. Lindsey you get the whole clip here practice a lot of the end of the ball which had to be Larry. Bird is going to spill magic Lindsey. Dennis Rodman's correct. She takes the to lead from the last dance. I gotta get them all now. Okay here's mystery. Voice Number. Three well perversion. One of the device. That would be Lindsey. Muss mosque is correct. Lindsey taking a three nine. She's wanted John now. Lindsey I have never ever in the history of the show been shut out. If you get these next to. You'll be the first person to ever shut me out in mystery voice with designed to play her favor. I know you've already won. You've only I mean they'll get more Jon Allen from the we'll see we'll hear his voice number four. I thought the opponents were what was three to cody bellinger. Hush is four goal. Lindsey you have a chance to make Mason in Ireland. Show history this big fancy award for yes you do. This is for everything. Here is mystery voice number five. The number one rule. When you're in a crisis and make no mistake Winds Johnson and you did not use your buzzer done. Okay give it a Linsey literature Lindsey Eastern. You'd be all the second time you said your name but I play illegally. Give it a shot. Let I gave you the answer but go at number one rule when you're in crisis and make no mistake. What he was in in San Antonio was a crisis the that is Lindsay. Who's WHO's worked for to tell you different you didn't recognize your host. Your phone is like three octaves higher. You couldn't pick John Ireland only up clip from our show then all a different doesn't sound like you're Ireland that you hear on the Radio. That was your stake. It would have been the ultimate irony. Had I I've been swept for the mets on my own. Our own voice yeah host Lindsay. No you're still one four two one. Don't take away from that. That's right all right more fasttrack coming up next forty mason and Ireland seventeen. Espn I roll it on with fasttrack in Ireland et to you false tack okay. I got a game and this is. This'll be interesting. I have a list of the most popular movies from every year since nineteen sixty. I've randomly selected some of these. I'll give you the year and described the movie and when you say most popular box. Yes okay I'm looking for the title of the Movie. Your name is your buzzer. The first person to get to four wins it okay. Nineteen seventy seven. This movie introduced us to the Millennium Falcon Mason Star Wars Star. Wars is correct and Mason is on the board okay. Nineteen Ninety Eight. This movie begins in One Country and ends in the water. It is the largest mail seeing mace. Titanic they can't hang with you in this game all right. Two thousand three. This is an animated movie set in Australia. Cuisine Lindsey Finding Nice Lindsay. Okay won't get to play. Curtis nineteen sixty four Wu. All right the same actress was also in the top selling movie of one thousand nine hundred sixty five but in one thousand nine hundred sixty four. She paid mason aim may sound of music incorrect. It's like fun it yet. She played a magical nanny. Lindsey Mary poppins is correct. I knew sixty four sixty five sixty five was music. So Fun is not Lindsey. Inmates are tied at two nineteen eighty six. They lead character in. This movie felt the need for speed. Most of this move as Mace Topgun. Topgun is correct and Mason is on the verge of victory. Three that that saying was from that movie next movie. So many. Feel the need the need for speed Debbie Good Question Trivia Amos catchphrases movie all right three to to fund. She still alive over there. Live game two thousand and eight among the actors featured in this movie. Morgan Freeman Michael. Cain futch the dark. The dark night is is on the board. Damn I hate to lose one of my favorite movies. Yeah those guys I was. I was going up and starts the next one's going to be Aaron Eckhart then Christian Bale Than Gallagher. Okay Mason can win it Lindsey and still have a chance. Nineteen seventy five. We better get a bigger boat Mason. Mace Joss it's over. Yes Mason wins but I got on the board got on the board. That was good That game supported. If you lost. He would be disappointed. Chat devastated all right in Spain. They've invented a robotic bartender. The ideas that it can pull you a pint without the slightest concern about contamination. The robot made its debut in the city of Seville began enjoying new freedom. Spain's the two-month lockdown with bars and cafes and half the country allowed to reopen their outdoor terraces sitting in the middle of. The bar is the gigantic robotic arm with a Captain Hook pincher smoothly reaching over to the dispenser taking a Plastic Cup. Spinning it around to hold it at an angle under. The tap gradually straightening the cup as it fills the robot then places it on the counter for the customer to pick up. The biannic Barman has drawn a steady stream of both customers and curious. Onlookers John. Do you think robot bartenders could be a real thing after this pandemic is over? You just said the key thing I think before the pandemic it would have been a novelty wears off after a couple of months but now all the rules are different. I'm not so sure that robotic bartenders like we were talking earlier about. What do you do in a stadium? Okay what do you do in an arena? What do you do if you go to a concert? Well if you were pre ordering drinks and robotic bartenders were making the drinks or even putting your food on the counter. Wouldn't you be more inclined to buy it if there was no humor if it was what they now refer to as contactless food purchasing? I I think that now this thing. There's a place for this thing don't you? I absolutely do Although you know. Here's the thing about bartenders when all this is over when there's a vaccine when life returns when life really really returns to normal. Don't you WANNA be able to have human contact with the bartender? I mean think about this in history when we think bartender. It's somebody that you can talk to somebody that you can You can unload your feelings on John. You were a bartender. Human interaction is part of being a bar isn't it? It is but people like you are won't even go into restaurants. No I'm talking about when all this is over when there's a vaccine when when everything is clear don't want to get your beer from a person. Sure but in the meantime until we have a solution. Do you think. There's a place for the ROBOT BARTENDER. Anna probably is. I think it sets a bad precedent for people in the service industry. I mean I put myself through college paying for everything working like sometimes three or four jobs like waiting tables and bartending. So I just feel like it's one of those things where a lot of these to go. What are they called casual? Dining restaurants do everything on the touchscreen now and that's eliminated the need for a lot of people. Sit down. Restaurants. Are doing that too and it just makes me nervous because essentially good great industry. I it was always good to me and working and you obviously you have your Weirdos but I think it's a good thing to be part as far as you said with the Camaraderie and bonding with people. Even if it's a complete stranger who serving beer eliminating a job. There's no question about that. It is limited and a lot of our automation stuff is eliminating jobs. That won't ever come back so I think we've got to be careful with some of this stuff when we think long term horizon after a vaccine and after this thing is all over we still want people to have those kinds of jobs district appreciate this. When I bartended in college we bartended for this guy who owned two bars and a bunch of fraternity kind of handed it down over the years so for about a ten year period there were probably twelve of us that bartended for the sky and picked up most of the shifts and so he was noticing that some of the bartending shifts were making less money than the other ones and so he brought in somebody one of his friends. Who'd been in the bar business for a long time to come in and watch and see could figure out why on some Thursday nights the take was really big and then the following Thursday. It wouldn't be as big and so they call me into the office after this guy gets done with this report and any of my friends will tell you. This is one hundred percent. I had no idea even like deny. They said John of all the bartenders. Here you know you pull in the least amount of money really and I said why he goes only one person the whole time. He said you're too talkative. He is you talk to every he said. Your tips are good. He goes your tips are comparable to everyone else's but you'll stay in one part of the bar and talk for five minutes. That's four minutes of sales that you're giving away by trying to be a Nice Guy. You've gotTa talk less and mix more drinks and all my friends could so. Can I tell you that from beginning? Ireland's Park we've ever had because all he does. It's not a restaurant was it. One of them is still there. It's not far from where Mason lives. A place called the San Francisco Saloon. Oh Yeah On Olympic near Barrington and the high the same owner Marshall Sutter's. That was on the corner of it. Might BE PICO. Come to think of it. San Francisco might be Pico in Barrington and the other place near Pico and Bundy get depends on the type of place that it is because there are a lot of places where you know when I had bartending job. One purpose where it was really high value fast paced slain drinks as fast as humanly possible thing and then the other one was like a slower hole in the wall bar where you might have one hundred and the amount of customers but if it's a guy who wants to come in and sit there and tell you life story and he's GonNa tip you really for the most part. You wanted to know who those people are regulars and they really well for it so I had. That was one of the best jobs I ever had. I had money my pocket all the time. They finally had to come to me and go. You need to stop talking. So yeah well you know. It's funny when Richard Schiff was on the culture. Podcast your friend Richard Schiff. He told me that the thing about playing golf with you is that you never shut up. No it's what he would tell you is is that I do. I basically do a running soundtrack of his game. That's what he said he said. When you hit good shots he he would tell you. It's great because it feels like you have a real announcer calling your shots and when you hit bad shots you're like John. Shut the F. But he's right. Yeah I have a running commentary. Da- you are talking your guy. I'll write coming up next for you. It's time people time of the evening when we do some cross talk. Mason and Ireland along with Alan Leeway. Because we're right on the verge of Suihua at sunset seventeen. Espn I ta Seventeen Espn Mason and Ireland. Is that special time of the evening rolls around right around this time every weeknight time for that man with that one room apartment the Murphy bread full glass of Gin full glass of Gin full. Las Sleep at Sunset Balance Lee was here sleep. What what are you doing man? What's going on guys? You said this is the second best. Show that you've ever had yup second-best after a show I did in nineteen eighty six and you ask John if you remember that show and John Response had met Mason in nineteen eighty six. I was why you gotta realize that doing the show day. No I was doing the show with somebody else. The best show ever did was with somebody other than Dan. Whitey from the La Times. Yeah just just Posted a story to the website about the NBA coming back and he said that at one point staples center expressed interest in hosting the NBA's return with La live acting as the hub with hotel and dining options and direct access to the arena. But serious conversations never materialized. That would have been fun. Oh that would have been great amazing just games at Staples Center starting early in the morning and run all the way through the night and there's a secret tunnel that runs from La live to staple center. Yeah just you just went through that. Yeah and it boy. That would be awesome. I know that's the first I've heard of that. Do you guys ever heard that before. No not staples I heard. Houston was What they said initially they said there were multiple cities that were trying to submit. But they just kept mentioning. That Vegas in Orlando where the two Weiqi said. I'm just quoting coating Dan on a single location might be the preferred route for some though. There are other options under consideration. Secondary location could still happen with an NBA partner MGM resorts putting together a second spot or Houston is also reportedly being considered as a hosting site. So I it sounds like nothing is finalized but all these things are possible. Yeah it sounds like it's not officially vegas. It sounds like Disneyworld is for sure and Vegas may be less. Sure as as the second sight if they're talking about Houston boy. It would have been so fantastic for it to be at Staples Center. I don't know why they wouldn't consider that pre preference wise. Don't you think all the players would want me? There's one see the difference under different circumstances not like to go enjoy. La like they would if everything was open but a lot of the players also. If I'm right John. Lott these players live in L. A. Too. I mean there's a ton of them in that Manhattan area just coastal in general but. That would have been amazing. Here's another story that I may want to react to this saints announced earlier this week that they're looking for a new naming rights partner and Cata. What's currently known as the Mercedes Benz Superdome? Yes starting next year The VP communications. For the Saints Greg Benzel said in a statement that they're looking for a partner to represent our city state region as a leader to better our community and to bring positive change shore region our city and state. So everybody knows that. New Orleans is a city that has struggled economically. Yep a company has offered fifteen million to rename the saints home calf. That company is stripped chat. Oh come on. Which builds itself is one of the world's leading adult. Webcam sites but they're willing to pony up fifteen million. Let's say for the sake of discussion that nobody else even offers ten. But stripped chat is offering fifteen million Cam. The saints consider stripped chat. That can you think they can't make no circumstance whatsoever. I may let me make the argument for him. The Strip cat the Strip chat communications director. A guy named Max Bennett said in a news release. In our opinion New Orleans is the party capital of the United States. I'd like to think that we hear it strip chat embody some of New Orleans character and flair as one of the world's leading adult Webcam sites that averages over sixty million visitors per month we know a thing or two about having a good time Absolutely not by the way we're Sadi's was paying ten million a year so this is five million more. But they're offering fifteen million a year for how long nights Genius Marketing Right mace-like I think a lot of times. They just throw this out there and I never heard about it before. And now all of a sudden he may say the term it says announced a fifteen million dollar offer to rename it as the Strip. 'cause like so-fi paid four hundred million dollars over twenty years is strip chat ready to pony up that level of we we're in market to. New Orleans is like market thirty to vegas. They named what's Raider stadiums. Allegiant your allegiance stadium. I mean if there's any place in Vegas I mean what's Vegas non for. They still found corporate five hundred company in Vegas. They're paying twenty five million per year elite strict chat strip chat superdome. That is that is just remind way if this is Alan suggested if this is just a marketing ploy by brought up the number two market world. It's super smart. Yeah Yeah you. Did you know that Mike? Tyson is supposedly INDIGO. She or maybe even already has bought the naming rights to the of the stadiums in Barcelona where the soccer stadiums for cannabis companies called Swiss x were. Here's the thing if you you don't know it was company by the title stripped chat. You know exactly what it is but Mike. Tyson said that he wanted to name it. Instead of Swiss ex new camp it would be Camp Nou Blake. You gotta try that. He wanted to go with but case. What if porn hub came in with with the highest rate bio the porn hub superdome? No you can't bring your kids to a state. Twenty five million to go to the porn have superior to enough awkward questions. I'd been you and I have been to New Orleans. That whole town is drunk. This porn hub. Superdome completely work part of tried to buy the naming rights for the stadium on the Miami Heat built a new one. That's right that was another one. I'm starting to wonder if any of these porn sites are really serious. They're just throwing it out there to get free coverage like this is doing. I know I I think that's the correct answer by the way. Can't we get Mike Tyson on the show? He and I have so much in common. That four twenty every day. Yeah let's have them on Sunday at four twenty. Can't you get Mike Tyson? He's he's got Tyson ranch where he's grown weed. I'm working on. Publicist is a big fan of guy. Since one of our other times with recently on our show so we're working on. Hey let me let me also say this naming rights. I made this speech for many years. You have to get on the ground floor with naming rights for example we're going to call Staples Center Staples Center even if staples bails out now. When I do the LAKER Games the Lakers will instruct me to call it. Whoever BUYS THE NAMING RIGHTS? But you guys don't have a responsibility are not paid by the Lakers. To do it will always refer to it as staples center. Won't you like Mace? Where did the niners play four? They moved to San Jose candlestick park. Right you know. They've changed like m. but the rights to that to candlestick park and nobody ever called it. Three M Park. It makes no sense. You have to get the naming rights for the I if it's very true like like I don't people that still where the ducks play the. They call it the pond. The pond right. It's been the Honda Center for like fifteen years. So look this is this is interesting on is San Diego County credit. It's one of those qualities. When were there wheel called Jack? Marin right Ag says there they have a lifetime naming rights deal for staple center the chain promises to pay almost one twenty million dollars to put its name on top of staples for twenty years. When would twenty years be? It's happening now now. It opened in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine so I don't know if they've renewed their deal but if they haven't like yeah. They bought lifetime naming rights. Let's say that like So-fi we're going to call that stadium. So-fi gives it up in five years and somebody else takes the naming rights most are already know it is so fi. Yeah yeah somebody maybe most of these naming right deals though are for like twenty years right. But here's an example like United Airlines. I think bought naming rights for the coliseum but nobody calls it anything but the college well no but it's United Airlines field at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum Mace. I didn't even know that right but every time somebody in the middle of the country watches a game that's being held at the Coliseum. United Airlines will get an impression. What's known as an impression right? They'll get that every single time. You can't put a naming right on the coliseum because it's so a store but you can't do United Airlines field at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and that's what every announcer when they introduced the game's going to say that's what all the impressions are going to be when people watch stuff on TV it has value. Then you're thinking well but our impressions on the as good as as as the person remembers like for example. I didn't know that and I've watched made fifty games at the Coliseum. Since united made that deal mace the play on Ireland's point dignity health. I think a lot of people still call it home depot riots and and I think what John is saying is there is this Kerryon because they were the first that because they got into the ground floor you typically still refer it to the original name so yes. A new partner. Advertiser comes in. But it's true. John. A lot of these. I mean I think the first and correct me. If I'm wrong John you might. You might know better on this than I do. One of the first naming rights deal if not the first naming rights deal was at the Great Western form. Great Western was the bank. Sure that places the forum. Yeah I just referred to as a form to By the way John the other thing United Airlines is paying for is they're paying for the exposure for the twenty twenty eight Olympics. So that's a that's a worldwide brand everybody who's GonNa see United Airlines field or United Airlines stadium when they watched the Olympics around the world. So that's what that's what they're paying for more than more than anything probably allies. I always think when they name the field or the court that it doesn't work like for example. Do you know. Ucla plays their home games. Where Alan Basketball Pavilion right? Do you knew the courts named after John. Wooden right it's John and Nell wooden court but everybody refers to their homes. Pauley pavilion I look. I think there's you WanNa be the first one in. I mean is going to be there for twenty years Staples has got a lifetime deal now to be the naming rights for the building that AG owns In downtown Los Angeles Some of them are less prominent places so the pond will I mean. Sometimes I guess I do call it the hundred center but mostly it's the pond. Angel Stadium was briefly. Edison field the now back to angel. Stadium Right stub became allegiant. A field. Right allegiant no where the radio city health. Yeah so I'm help and Banca California stadium. I think will always call that the band right because they got in the ground floor right right so the second one. It doesn't get nearly the value right so whoever whoever from staples cut the deal to be the initial ten? An unstable center was a genius. Because that's that's GONNA be staple center forever. Yup All right so can i? Can I ask you question? I don't know sure? Yeah Please Allen. Ask Away ask Ole Miss What. What do you think this this whole? Nfl thing where they're incentivizing teams. Higher minority candidates is. That is that one of the most disrespectful things to do that way. They gave it up but no. I don't think it's disrespectful. You don't think you didn't think Alan. Why is it disrespectful if a player for minority if there's only four minority coaches in the NFL right so hypothetically speaking if a minority? If an African American Guy Head. Coaching job or he got a general manager role. I think a lot of people are going to look at not. He got it for his merit. He got it because they incentivize the teams that bothers me. How's that different? Though Alan from the years of affirmative action that were required in order to get universities to ten more minority candidates. Okay and Alan by the way. Also answer this if you change what? You're what the Rooney rule is now. What's your plan to get more minorities hired because what you're doing now is in working what. Dungy said I think is perfect. Dungy said that. They know they have to do something. This just isn't the best thing to do that. His right. Yeah but what is your his or anybody else's suggestion you can. You can continue to say. This isn't a solution but that they've tried everything. These these owners these old stodgy white owners will not offer these jobs for minorities. I actually think mace that. This may have been in ingenious play by the NFL offices to say to. Just start the discussion to say look. We're trying we're GONNA put something absurd out there so so you people realize that this this is a real problem and we have to deal with it but but it doesn't work out but Allen. The problem with your position is it doesn't fix the problem. You can put it this way. Did you ever problem with affirmative? Of course that's exactly what we're what did you say. Course you did not no no listen listen let me let me go back to one. St Year Tony Dungy or Anthony Lynn. Okay African Americans in the lead. Tony Dungy want a Obviously want a super bowl if they had come out and they had if they didn't bother Dan let's just say hypic hypothetically as long as we're getting closer to the right solution that it makes sense. I'm looking at it as I just don't it doesn't it doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth that they're incentivizing. I want that coach that African American coach we all know metoo calms did a study. I think back in two thousand and sixteen or she did a research after that two thousand sixteen professors from George Washington our readers July position coaches in assisting fell on more than twice as likely to be promoted to a- coordinator than their black counterparts regardless of their performance experience or poking around. So and. So how do you fix that. So what's your what's your solution to address it by the way you're one hundred percent right if I have a solution if I'm going to have an opinion on something I should have a solution that part. I don't disagree with that all well. The other thing is I don't think that is the solution right. But you don't have one when Mason ask you about affirmative action. Your first response. Was You have a problem with it? I don't I you know I mean. There was a time when affirmative action was necessary. And by the way I'll give you an example. I went to UCLA UCLA now because they will give you. I'll give you give me an example. Ucla right now it. It does not allow you to be wreck. You're not even allowed to put it on a form. What your nationality is okay. It's strictly based on grades. That's it so the end result is the only African American students at UCLA. Are The guys on the sports teams? It's less than five percent of the school when I was at Ucla because they allow different things. You got a full college experience. I wanted to go to college with people that were black and Mexican and Asian and white. I wanted a full colleges should prepare you for the rest of the world when you get out in the world. Everybody's not all white right now. Ucla's pretty close to all white. I would welcome them a chance to go back to those days. Were so afraid of offending people. And you're the wouldn't you brought this up. You said this is so offensive. Okay maybe it is but it's not. It's not a fake problem. The problem needs to be addressed. There are no black coaches in this league and they're not being given opportunities there. Would you eighty percent black right? But that's the whole point like I'm not disagreeing. There needs to be more African American minority coaches for general managers. That's not the point. I'm making so. I hope that the Rooney rule working. Apparently it's not right. Correct twenty take out. Apparently three of the last twenty head coaches in the NFL have been white. And how is that possible to link? That's eighty percent black and Alan part of the problem. Is that some of these coaches. When they get an opportunity they get blown out after a year. Like Todd Bowles did Downing Downing Arizona. They gave him that trump. For when you're in and who was the guy or was it balls. It was with the jets. The Guy with the guy with Arizona. Steve wilks Steve wilks and todd. Bowles both got one year and one year and they'll probably never get another head coaching job. Some of these other guys like when Adam gays got blown out he got another job right away and did you guys and you guys heard you guys heard what Angelina and set right coach. The chargers you did you hear it. Just it's all just a small piece off of it and this is what These are the main things that stand out to see if he is saying he said. Sometimes you've been do the wrong thing while trying to do the right thing continues a. It's out of desperation. You're right and they won't have a solution so they're obviously looking for a solution. If Anthony Lynn or Tony Dungy if I felt their comments. Were meant what we're we're on our way to something here. This sounds good. I would feel good about it. I'm just I'm obviously not African American American. I can't relate to it but I can look at the numbers like you are makes you mentioned. Eighty percent of the League is African American. But it's such a small percentage that are represented in a GM role for a head coaching role. It is an issue when I say that incentivize. I see what you guys are saying about well. At least they're putting more coaches in there like it if you get if you move up six picks in the draft ten picks because you hired an African American general manager african-american coach. I'm assuming the way you two are looking at it saying wall. At least you have more African American coaches more African American. Gm's is out the way you guys looking at it. Yes now. I'm not in favor of this particular plan. I think some variation of this plan could conceivably work. I ever serious start this conversation that we're having right now. I think there should be a plan to incentivize franchises to invest in minority hiring. It's I honestly you can interview as many people. I think the now you have to interview at least one minority candidate when you have a general manager opening and you have to these the new rules and you have to interview at least two minority candidates when hiring a head coach. I don't think that's GONNA change anything. I I think that's just cursory. I don't think that's going to change anything. I don't think you you've substantially changed the structure that prevents african-americans from elevating themselves to head coaching positions and general managers in the NFL to me. That's just that's just a lip service. That's in part of the two guys in. This is a broader discussion. But if you look at the guys that are getting promoted a lot of times it's offensive. Coordinators or quarterback coaches and very few minorities are in those jobs. So if you WANNA take a broader. Look at that you say okay. Let's identify some guys that could be quarterback coaches or offensive coordinators and put them in the pipeline and act like there are two guys now. Byron left which and Eric the enemy or the two guys that are offensive coordinator's right now who are African American right. So if if one of those guys doesn't get a job so it's just it's it's there's all guys hiring people that look like them. Yeah yeah or in the case of the RAMS. It's young white guys hiring people that look like them. Yeah all right coming up next. Alan Sleep is going to read something. That's one of the highlights of the night when he read something and then also we find out what's in the CAM. What interviews tonight to total total? Okay too many has he prerecorded. How many are in the CAN? We'll find out coming up next Mason Ireland seventeen ESPN. Yeah what kind of set up is that. I'll tell you it's a setup for sleep more. I moved out. I got married. I'm in a mansion and I have three dogs. Everything changed now. Everything very funny cross. Oh Yeah I was GonNa say you should read something. Cross at seven ten powered by power pro and their cross-strait services servicing plumbing plus heating and air great power specials right now ninety nine dollars drain cleaning or fifty nine. Ac Two which includes a safety inspection and a temporary disinfect for your fax system. Make an appointment today. Call eight hundred five eight four four one one six or visit power pro plumbing dot com. I mentioned this to you may so I don't know if you guys saw on. Who aren't we skipping a step what what's in the CAN? What's in the can we do? What's in the CAN can? Okay two of them. Two of them in the CAN K. Both of them. We know. I'm sorry I'm sorry two interviews total two interviews total now already said they're both McCain. Who are they definitely gave it up? Do you guys think there's some somebody from the athletic or no since you asked. I'm going to say no. I agree no patriot. The athletic the athletic is represented by the way. I don't think you'll like I have somebody coming on from the New York Times Jerry. Longman with no fans in the seats do sports remain must watch. Tv He remembered that game. You got the Jerry you got the Jerry Longman wait. Let me explain here covered again. Is it begin? Twenty four Lindsay. What do Jerry long believable early down. Can I do this when I tweet out? That he's coming on. You guys want to be tagged in it any comments. You want to attack me in that as long as you. The Man Mason in Ireland have been after for years. I believe a long. We have never done well. Twenty six years. We've never had Jerry Longman on the show. How is this possible? This is an outrage Lindsey. At that's when you got him on. Mason nine hundred eighty six eighty six. Wow okay well. I'm excited about that. Terry. Longman it would have played perfectly into what you mention. Ram Aaron Donald. Right had that zoom call earlier today. 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Hour 1: French Fry Power Rankings

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Hour 1: French Fry Power Rankings

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But before we get to me. No k because this place has been a fire drill for six months now, and it just everyone bouncing into each other. And at the end of every collisions to God's ask for more money. And and so what's happening. Here is trying to get potty off the ground by noon, but there are thousand panicked situations every day he flies out of here. Telling twenty-five lies, and then he gets home and doesn't do what he says he's going to do. And so maybe a stupidity podcast will air at noon. But my I've been hearing for three days got stopping around here. Mother bleep in this local restaurant as if he's entitled for them to produce his funny, everyone in the world is a radio producer for Stu gods. So for Mike for three days, he's been wearing me out, Chad, rip, Chad the Komodos media guide ripped Chad. Chad needs to be ripped. He's not authorizing the sound. For my podcast. We'll start ripping them already. And I'll leave you alone. I mean this guy. It's unbelievable. Listen, I made it entertaining and the restaurant really really shines here. And they're the only route around leave you though, I don't believe when you I don't know what you. The restaurant made it entertaining. Mike made it even more entertaining. The guys fed me all the lines. But I'm telling you, this is great. And I want to air it, and they're not approving it, and I'm outraged. So now, you're outsourcing the peer pressure because this entire stupidity. Kardashian publicist to get the sound air like he's just he is his stealing and borrowing everything from our universe and making everyone work for him. So this would be episode three. So far two. He's done wakened take he had forty five guests on and at a second episode of great even in this episode. He gets gear mo- Meena and Chris involved. Everything is outsource. This is my world I'm bringing my world into the Bod cast. Now, they're doing all the work. I get it. But that's why it's called stupidity. I've been on three episodes of stupidity already. Congratulations. Have you been paid for zero? I've been onto. Hey, congratulations to you. Stupidity. I can't even get on. It all I do is work for them to try and get restaurant publicists, Mike. He must've asked me ten times. Call the publicist, you know at Komodo stupidity. So how do we bury these people Mike to get their tension because it started boy, it's not gonna bureaucracy? Get can I give on the telephone number. Can we give out CHAD'S telephone number of everyone all? Now, you cannot do that at all. I think you've done what you've done already. I don't know if this helps her hurts, but we've applied public pressure. The God's army wants to hear this do not go and call six seven eight known. Now, look, I know how the restaurant and nightclub business works around here. You're not going to be up till noon. Get one of your people up because you guys have been live all night ordering a single carrot on post mates. Somebody do the job of Komodo and get the sound cleared for stugatz. Just from my sanity. Just so he leaves me the bleep alone. Stupidity. Honest got Mike. It's been three days. It doesn't matter. What I'm doing? I'm talking to Mike Tyson. I'm talking to Pat Riley, Dan, you gotta call the publicist to Komodo. He's getting better. Because usually this would all happen twelve hours before su- potty launches and he's been bothering you for three days. So he's actually getting better. Thank you. My stupidity. How many times do you? Do you? Today. It is a podcast that has debuted bigger than Oprah's menas is lagging behind so as south beach session. So is Dr Phil and everyone else in the universe. But Meena is lagging behind by just fractions, you need to fix this by supporting menas football podcast with their dog, which she by the way, this guy is strong in her half of that podcast is the shipping container this week. You learn well, they were great. This is the interesting pivot of the Munich calms football podcast, which features our dog lending because it's now a year round podcast. We got to see how entertaining Meena cons can be in an offseason, and I would have to admit it's mighty entertaining. Even the parts had aren't us. Even though Joe flacco you're talking about Joe flacco, if he gets traded and gets traded sort of midway through your podcast, which is always kind of interesting, but right now lebatardshow friends feature three of the top ten podcast and sports and recreation. Let's give me some love. Let's get her to the top spot subscribe to Munichites spot. Well, let's. Get her to the top spot. And then when when Supandi launches if it launches it'll regain number one on. That's a whole talk in the local hour about challenging Stu guts. And like the personal and occupational hazard of coming for the king. I have zero interest in challenging you in literally. Anyway, intellectually podcast rankings. I am perfectly content to be the wind. One of the many wins beneath your wings up perfectly could dance then get number one. And Dan, if you wanna come on next week to get a little rub, perhaps give some more listeners for your podcast. I'd be happy to do with five minutes. Things going on Mike I need some help here. Okay. Because I've told you before that because my parents or exiles because nothing no company allegiance, no money. Allegiant friendship allegiance matters to me more than the freedom the freedom to create what I am telling. You is I want to use that freedom to guide our principles once upon a time, the principal was to get a baby hippo named after me at the zoo that failed, but my new principal is I wanted to get this city that I love Miami to do something outside of Komodo now that shames Komodo into giving us the sound that we need whether it's billboards whether it signs I want to mobilize part of this the God's army to get him the sound that he craves Mike because I'm he's been every commercial break. Mike do this with Komodo do that. I am his personal assistant. I didn't know you were talking Tyson. I'm so hurry. I mean, and so I'd like the people to do if he's going to outsource I prefer not waste my time. With outsourcing. Hey, waste the time of someone who lives near Komodo who can go make a big public mess that we will put on social media bearing shadow. No, no, no, no. You have a responsibility, Dan as a leader. Well, if anyone does that, okay. I might just ignore it on the radio or social responsibility, an acronym. I like to call CSSR, and by the way, I'm still dealing with this hippo stop, as, you know, marches around the corner, and we're trying to get a voice for March sadness, and I asked, hey, what's our budget, and it was comic comically low. And I was asking why. And the retort was we spent ten thousand dollars on a hippo name that we couldn't even actually name. A what do I need to pay to get a big fireworks show outside a Komodo to gets to God's it. Sound? You have to make any more call is that the right strategy. Or should we show Komodo our support of the restaurant show them what we could possibly do for the restaurant which way? Do we go here? My mic seems to be shaking his head. Yes. That's I'd like to bury Chad Kardashian. I'd like to bury him not his name. That's that's where I wanna start. I want someone to knock the yoga mat out of his hand at eleven o'clock when he wakes up what about something positive like if we get Komodo five thousand followers or something get ever all of your minions to follow them. You could catch more flies with Honey than vinegar, Dan. Thank you, Stu gods out of this stupidity. Hey, luke. She ended a segment ESPN radio. God's ears. Nice to have a helping hand especially when it's act season. And that hand is attached to a licensed tax professional, but turbo tax live. You can talk to real CPA's in e as on-demand who can reveal your return with you before you file and make sure you're getting your maximum refund. That's very very important. They can even check your work line by line. So you could be confident it's done, right. Who knew confidence and peace of mind could be synonymous with taxes. Turbo. Tax live would CPA's in e as on demands he details at turbo tax dot com. Donlevatar? What did I just hear you saying about CPR CRP? What was it? What was that acronym? That that hideous thing that I don't want anywhere near the show CSR. What is that corporate social responsibility? Oh bleep ball. Stugatz. What is that a watch? You hire me these live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. I don't know where to start me calms wants to talk about an Tonio Brown. But we've got a Steve Kerr. Ojection? We've got a shame this goal for from yesterday. We've got a couple of stats of the day. And we still haven't gotten a Mike's top ten list from yesterday on weirdest things to have happened with Jose Canseco. Yeah. So which one of those would you guys like to do I would you like to do you have all of these in play, which of those seems most interesting to you? Do you stay on Tonio Brown meaner? Do you move off your position? Oh, and by the way, I also have the definitive list of the top fries the top French fries in America. Imagine that would. We go priority, right. I buried the lead. All right. Well, I've got the nineteen. According to the Los Angeles Times number nineteen nineteen. It's on the top. This is last. It's last is nineteen. Wow. Okay. And the west coast in and out in and out people on the west coast talk about in and out like it's holy. They've got the worst fries in these rankings at nineteen animal cells overrated. But if you do the fries gotta do animals is a bad. They're totally fair. Okay. Where is my big list music and production that people, you know, say all over the country that we're finally produced number eighteen on number eighteen sonic. Number seventeen rally. What? Whoa. Whoa. Whoa, rallies is essentially checkers rally's slash checkers. Dan. It just says rallies. Sorry, guys. Hold on a second. We'll come back to it. I don't even know what this is sixteen as Jollibee. Okay. Number fifteen wiener schnitzel. Of a fourteen Popeye's. Alleys number thirteen Jack in the box. Number twelve KFC. Number eleven chick fillet. She has wedges not fries a wedges ledges. Frye respect Chick-fil-A Chick-fil-A solid fraud better tots than fries. Don't even take the fries. Ray todd. This was a tot ranking. It'd be it's not a top rank you what are you not understanding about this the fries ranking? But I think Roy's right that if it's a potato. It's a fry right? List? Mashed potatoes way. Potato is a French fries, mashed potato then it's a frie-. No caves, he's mashed potatoes should be top fry them by your by your St. number ten Burger King solid under rated. Wow. Wow. Wouldn't Burger King be insulted by the ranking? I think so. I think so what's known for their song called fried king number. No places called fried. King should be right in the name. I'm going to start it. Yes. Fried mashed potatoes all potatoes of fried the fried king eighty twenty my white. Number nine shake shack. This right here is too low shake you do that. Oh, yeah. Doesn't can also get them with a side of cheese there. Chris Cody dips, his nuggets in the shake at Wendy's. Not shakes in a fraud hostage in a frosty from Wendy difference. Teach two dollars. Did you just find you know, what you've done power hungry? I was power. But I gotta take it away. Got you. Now have the power. Got you. Now have the power. Two minutes. Get out get out of here. Like, I took away myself because I was using too much now Roy's using it more than I do and sixteen dollars ROY pocket. Number eight is Wendy. Way to be number one number one. Is there a number higher than one because that's what Wendy should be number seven is Dairy Queen. Really? Vallejo. No, no, no. Nope. Put it on the poll would you ever buy French fries at Dairy Queen number six Carl's junior? Never had. It hurts. Good also Hardee's. Yes. It is the way that rallies is also checkers number five. And this is the big part here, everybody gather yourselves catch breath number five is arby's. Bri- rape. A piping hot arby's fry. Fries that little roast beef sandwich of fries and a coke. It's unbelievable. Cornered the market on the curly. They have the meats. They have more than just the meats slogan. I don't know what else they have rise. Or steak and shake. Fries. They wanna be McDonald's Friday big and shake wants to be McDonald's fries. Number three del taco. Wait a second. They'll talk oh has fries. Number two this. This is a bit of a shocker here. Number two, because I don't know where you guys are going to go after this. And there's just a lot of potential for a fireworks. It's come to is MC. Number one must be Wendy's. Wendy's frosty. No, no, maybe checkers night because I was already on their number one would be my number one. If indeed that the number one, I'm thinking about or flanigan's hold on a second. Hold on a second because God's might have in his arsenal. Number one. What is missing here America? What's missing here that can be a head of McDonald's? We all thought we were headed toward McDonalds McDonalds the patriots of fries and fast food, and there's a new number one in the power rankings. According to the LA time. What is your guest got? I think it's Nathan's me it is not Nathan. Is not in the top nineteen got guesses awful. Oh was so confident you, but you two guests potty. Yes. I either even other fast food chains. Number one is five guys. How could you Billy? What happened skeptical? Billions here for me. Subs is on this list. Get outta here. Rain drums, drop top time to read this creep for hat spot. I'm sorry. Roy you had the power for a little while. I don't really you. Find them. I heard him breathing. You find he was barely in the sound. Even know what you were doing the man was dipping nuggets into shake that is the fun as you only find Billy. I don't know. What you I thought you were finding Billy. What really Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay and watch a com. Five minutes into the flick, a tree ranch slams at a window where you hurt just gotta scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm. But the gyco insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Coke gyco to see how a Ford -able homeowners insurance can be done lebatardshow, Mike. How'd you feel that went or is that okay for you know, what do you think about it? What do you think? Thank you being smart. A little bit about what you know. No, no, not. No, no, not being smart. I would not do that to my Tyson. I'm not being smart. No, sir. I stayed in the most respectable view us. So you tell me how the went, but Stu gods? I'm sorry. If I've upset you Mike thank you for being on with didn't upset me because it sent me you known about if he sees libertas show with this to God's on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. The Dan lebatardshow is brought to you by Pennzoil synthetics taking synthetic motor oil performance to a whole new level make this which the Pennzoil synthetics today. Guests on the Dan Le Batard show appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sport center update twain way, Dirk Nowitzki who both checked into the heat Mavericks game to play their first minutes at the same time exchanged jerseys at the end of their final head to head contest of their careers. Macadear says that he doesn't regret play a painting catty, David growl, Ortiz significant tiny portion of the one point two nine six million dollars here. Earned from winning the Maya Koba classic saying, quote, I certainly don't lose sleep over this. All right. Hold on a second Stu gods and bleep what is it CPR CS? Our CS are bleep that. Let shame. This guy's got send the army after this guy in his mentioned social media. Let's shame this goal for for being a cheap state. A cheapskate champion who has diminished his championship by not taking care of his helpers. Let how do we shame him? Well, right now, they're shaming come out of the restaurant down here in south beach. We'll get to shame and coocher and a little bit. But I will remind you that coochie has the same exact agent is Tiger Woods. I'm a little confused stupidity. The story said he offered to give the guy fifteen grand. The guy said no offered an additional fifteen thousand on top of the five thousand that he gave them standard, though, if you win a tournament, and you've caddy that entire tournament is fifteen percent, which would be like one hundred and thirty thousand expecting and gave him five grand. And then he tried to fix it by giving him fifty like we need to keep saying what are his social media? Whether his social media avenues the army when they're done with Komodo can go after him. You are in vengeful mood today. Again, tiger just Tiga this guy. Would you say he's a putz flies? Honey tiger. To tease, would you say he's a putz? She went you've like steamrolled her joke like you. Trampled. It in interested yet holiday and finally be careful this Valentine's Day as hickeys can be deadly. The last time I gave a Hickey anyway. These suction can result in a blood clot, which it at least two cases have traveled to a person's brain and caused a stroke, really. Stay away the giant junior. Big cheeseburger is only at Wendy's get double the fresh never frozen beef and four strips not want to three four four strips of apple would smoke bake it alongside four peace nuggets. Delicious fries and a small drink for the junior price of just five dollars of elbow at participating US. Wendy's. For a limited time fresh beef available in the contiguous US, Alaska and Canada for all the latest headlines information, tune into sports center on ESPN radio all throughout the day. We have two stats of the day to get to from. Stugatz. And I do wanna get to menas thoughts on an Tonio Brown. But before we do that we marveling yesterday wasn't but twenty or twenty five years ago that Jose Canseco you could have made the argument a top five athlete in America. You could've made the argument might have been Jordan Tyson and him like that that they were. He was a bad boy in baseball at a time that baseball matter differently. Brought home runs. He was statuesque. He was dating Madonna, but he. Was a circus car on fire, and so Mike you have put together a list of your top ten favourite, Jose Conceico thing. It's a top nine in respect to the top nineteen prize. Okay. Very good. The top nine things and we discussed this yesterday because he had sent out a tweet asking people if they wanted to come on a UFO excursion with him looking for Bigfoot and alliens that's actually number ten. So we were already receiving trying to set it up. My case it just came out the inspiration. Was that number ten you can indeed purchase an excursion to see aliens and Bigfoot if aliens aren't enough for you. But his management won't get back to anyone who actually wants isn't his management manning isn't management. I think it is. But here's what I'm telling you could purchase any experience with get Seiko. You could customize it you just gotta call this guy. But his name is Manny, isn't it? It's morgan. That's okay. My bed. That is a fine. You're right. Number nine now, weird Consejo fact, Mike you wants tried to start his own crypto currency called conseceutiuve on. Pillow. Number eight might he claims run the fastest forty time in history. Forty forty club. Number seven Jose once said time travel was possible. When asked to explain during read at AMA, he said time travel is possible, but you can only go back in time through your dreams. I do it all the time. Learn more about dream control. I have managed it. On the poll. Did you know that Jose Canseco had mastered the control of his dream whenever we on seven or six whatever number. We're on. Shot off his own finger one cleaning his own gun. The finger falling off during poker on once had a finger fall off during a poker game tried. He tried to reattach the finger didn't work out, the fastest forty four point one, three seconds. Number four. I think he wants tweeted, I need an attorney pro Bono. My landlord victim me and would not let me take my shame to Lear's with me. I need your help to get them back. And then he offered Twitter memorabilia, if anyone could just bring him chandeliers. Number three weirdest. Jose canseco. Fact a ball bounce off his head and into the sands for a home run. Sports history. Number two, number two. That's number three. That's correct. Number two. Mike a celebrity boxing promoter. One a default judgment against they can take over breach of contract after Jose said sent his own twin brother for the bout. The heady fly. Showed up in about had different tattoos. And the scam fell apart was the ball out of the park. That would have been a good place. That's. It's a little slow today. Number one, Mike Ryan, everyone Jose can take once got pulled over with diaper wearing goats in his car. Which part did you? I guess you didn't hear you might go ahead and do it again Jose can say once got pulled over with diaper wearing goats in his car. We didn't get that. You were incredulous instead of not having actually heard it where they'd really his goats. He's friends with Tom Brady. Put it on the poll at lebatardshow better joke. Stugatz is goat. Tom Brady diaper wearing goat joke or Meena calling the gopher a putz. Team you came in after when the joke when the joke didn't land you said to tease putts with two TS as gods. Just continued to team roll over you stat of the day, Mike, let's play God says to stat of the days for even though it should just be one stat of the day. The the short virgin plays thought of the days. Today startled the day started the day in this stat of the day start of the day day in these Hispanic of the day start up the day instead of the day, fitness the start of the day. Courtesy of Brody Logan at Brody logos on Twitter Nicola Jokic now has twenty eight career triple doubles as many as Michael Jordan had in his career. Yes. You while the open again or just go to the next one. Well as long as we can give it short. If you could just give me the short opening again because I don't want to drag this down start of the day day in this style of the day. Start of the day startled day in this style of the day. Start of the day to day these statal day start of the day instead of the day, fitness the start of the day. Really? It's great. It's great. It's like a waves lapping upon your shore of my father's forcing courtesy of Zach. Cram at Zach grandma Twitter, Manny Machado has been a free agent longer than he was a dodger. Go for it with my coli half an hour ago. Mean times will give you her in Tonio Brown position in the next segment. I'm teasing footfall Tony around a thought an independent thought that you will not get from anywhere else. Meantime will give us her. Antonio Brown thoughts neck. I thought he was a receiver. What am I call him? You said position. Stupidity. That's not a bad joke. I missed it getting closer to the weekend. Why in the world? Would you continue to look like that use the tools from the good folks at dollarshave? Really? Wow, rule donlevatar what's the single most important fame. The ego to do to beat the patriots still guts. Brady with four. Pressure on Brady. We find out still alive next live at our show with this two guys on ESPN radio. Mike, I don't know what to do here times is with us from ESPN, the magazine senior writer the last thing that she has written is about rob gronkowski. She's got a stew got story for that. I get it wrong now. Yeah. Yeah. It was listening to that sound from the Super Bowl last year. I was thinking about the Super Bowl this year in. There was something I wanted to tell you, but I never got the chance during Super Bowl week. Hold on a second before you got because I wanted to ask you Mike to make an executive ruling here because Meena has to God story, and we'd usually want to just get whatever. That's God story is but she was telling me during the break because she's vaguely incompetent and doesn't say these things on air. She's also got a Jose can say co story. And right. Exact roy. That is the correct. Yes. Tell Dan during the break that Dr Jose say story instead of telling the audience while we're talking about Jose can take our to do that Mita. I of I wasn't an hour. We in Taiwa Jose. Maybe she doesn't want that story on the air rally. And that's a fine for you, ROY great story. Basically, I was telling you. Oh afterwards. Yeah. I've met Jose Ken. It was four years ago at a memorabilia convention in Cleveland, he was selling stuff as he is want to do. And I was so dazzled by hit was wearing jeans embroidered with dragons like rhinestones, as you know, on the poll Guillermo at lebatardshow, of course, Jose say go was wearing jeans embroidered with dragons question, Mark. Yes. Or no, let's say I wanted to take a picture of them like covertly so Africa Matt walked away where it was milling around the party. And I took like some secret, you know, the when you hold the phone like, you're taking a selfie. But really you're taking a picture of someone. You guys have done that move right there. You're you're taking a picture of something you shouldn't be taking pictures while pretending you're not taking that took it then later as walking out. I looked at the picture. And in the photo, it was like such a cursed image. Jose Canseco is looking directly at me pointing in grinning because he knew I was taking it. It's it's really was. We need to put it on a social media. I just I just want it noted for the record that Ivy league educated me kinds outsmarted by with this Raga Reuter on his pants who shot his own finger off and then lost than poker game. Who's also mastered time travel and his dreams. Erin enough Twitter. What is your Stu gods story? What happened with God? I it's not about Gus. But it it really it telling the story makes me look like stugatz. Like, a stew gutsy and story, and it's relevant to interest. So at the Super Bowl, a friend of mine, I was at a party in a friend of mine was saying, hey, there's a NFL. I just talked to this NFL player, and he your name came up. And he was like I really like her Twitter really big fan of the Twitter. So I was like well who is it? You know, kinda I thought if I'd be like a minor like kicker like a backup or something and says, it's Sam darnold. So I'm like. Because you remember I was darnold high from the. Then I go I look it up. Sam darnold doesn't have Twitter. So that means he must have a burner that he uses to follow me times. Now, I I want to find his burners. This is true. Also Sam darnold. I love you. What just happened? He loves Sam darnold. I mean, she is told me that since day one first thing she said to me when we met anticipated. He wasn't very good last year, though wasn't. He was getting in at times. He was good towards the end of the season a lot better towards the end of the season. He has no literally no one playing with him. Nothing. I mean Quincy in new y is only wide receiver name another O Brown all the hopefully find it's it's Robby Robby Anderson as the other get what do you have for us on Antonio Brown? I'm just so we're doing highly questionable later one of the questions. References the fact that there are now rumors in Tonio Brown. The trade might only net like a mid round pick potentially for him. That's insanely blows my mind that Antonio Brown whose contract is ridiculously cheap, by the way. It's like three years something thirteen thirty one turns thirty one next seas. He plays wide receiver and we've seen wide receivers excel to say nothing of a wide receiver who is or you believe if. The best wide receiver in his time. Top three he led the NFL in touchdown catches last year. Didn't they I don't know if that's great. There's no rain. I feel you. So the concern is oh, well, he's he's troublemaker. 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Hour 1: Antonio Brown

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Because I know you guys are largely tired of everything on bell and in Tonio Brown related, but for a moment here, I just want to marvel with you the country. On what happened here? Just so that we're clear on what happened here. I know you're tired of Antonio Brown. I know you're tired of him being a total clown show. A bit of a non team player. You might say a bit of a jerk bit of a clown. But let's examine for a second. The macro. A thirty one year old receiver under contract with no leverage under contract for several years. Decided through social media. To nuke the team of the Rooney's and football and the Pittsburgh Steelers. He decides to nuke this even though he's under contract. He doesn't have any real power. He just has the power to make a mess. Now. The next thing that has to happen is the Rooney family first family of football has to get out of the way because Al Davis scarecrow kid has given to media members a whole bunch of power to people. He picked off television to just pick them off television. People who are around football talking about football. I'll take may Aachen grooten, right? Those are two guys who already traded number one receiver not as good as this number one receiver leads everybody in touchdowns the last few seasons. But Antonio Brown has just ended up through social media as very bad diva a very bad rebel, a very bad martyr in terms of being under the thumb of the man and the mustache. This dude got exactly what he wanted. And the Steelers got bleeped the Steelers did not get what they wanted. The raiders got what they wanted Antonio Brown just rigged the system, and it was like watching a clown car show up in front of the Pentagon a tiny clown gets out with a blond moustache and the Pentagon crumbles like this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. The first family football. He makes a mess on Facebook. Nobody can control him. He gets everything he wants location. Now, you ain't trained me to the bills. I thought of the bills are you saying they botched this. I'm just marveling at how what happened is amazing. It really it should be the playbook if the broad could do what he didn't took ten now every diva wide receiver in the league has the playbook just make a mess. These teams can handle that did they don't know what to do with the social media. They're too old. They're there to stuck in their regimented establishment ways and the Rooney's get scared by the social media guy. What? What happens the Steelers get bleeped in Antonio Brown gets everything he wants. And Furthermore, another layer of this more complicated. The two black guys with the Steelers. Having a problem that they were willing to extend rothlisburger early. Ropley they've got a policy don't extend people early. They did it for the guy who's got a lot on his resume. That's worse than what in Tokyo Brown and Levy on bell have on their resume. If you don't think that's a problem. You ain't paying attention to any race relations in the locker room when the organization sides with the quarterback and extends him outside of policy and won't give the money to the other guys one of whom was dramatically underpaid. Antonio Brown was dramatically underpaid for four years. He agreed to that contract though. That's fine. But that's the rules in a league that shouldn't have a salary cap. He grade to that contract with the contracts are inherently unfair. And you're right. He should have honored the contract that would have been the more professional way to do it. However, you tell me if he got rewarded for honoring the contract. I mean, listen he went from zero guaranteed dollars over thirty million guaranteed dollars. He got exactly what he wanted you rising. It's crazy a clown car. Just knocked over the establishment. Because this look ryen russillo was asking this question on Twitter because everybody's gonna take sides on this nonsense. He's he's saying here. I've. Been trying to think of the most conversational way to ask this question. Do some of you think the players never wrong in the way, they go about trying to change their situation. I'm starting to feel that way Antonio Brown was wrong. But he just got rewarded for it in the most spectacular way when no leverage. Here's thirty million extra guaranteed. You can leave and you can go exactly to the west coast. Like you want? Don't you think most teams though with all that said everything a Benz past Antonio's past? Are you think most teams side with the quarterback? I mean, that's that's the most important right now at this point Antonio Brown is better at what he does than Ben Rothlisberger is at what he does and his younger, and is more valuable given his contract situations, you can make that argument in front, but it short-sighted the Steelers just nuked themselves for several seasons here because they are taking a cap hit on this as if he were still on the team like the Steelers got bleeped here up and down bleeped by two guys. Ben Roethlisberger's thirty seven years old. We've already seen his production. Go down. He's certainly not. The same quarterback, especially on the road. He is now pushed away 'Antonio Brown someone that has helped extend his career a career that Ben Rothlisberger doesn't seem fully committed to because he can't give a straight answer as to whether or not he's going to retire because of health reasons would be with his family. He's there's some far vibes. Here doesn't want to help the young quarterback sort of has an attitude problem just been accused by a former teammate of fumbling on purpose when he didn't like a play call in an ten point game in the fourth quarter. These are things that if they followed a quarterback that looked like say in Tonio Brown would be a bigger issue, especially when you consider the past that somehow Ben Rothlisberger has largely gotten away with and hasn't really had stick to him in a way that it might have if the quarterback looked like Antonio Brown. You can't reward this behavior you because it was a total clown show. We have not seen an athlete behave. This kind of unprofessionally. You know, the game long time any just got everything he wanted only because he was willing to make a mess. This is weird. Normally, you're the guy, that's pro athlete and chaos and against the establishment. And you seem to be on the Steelers you are so wrong about this. What I'm saying is you don't have to take a sign and Tonio Brown Ken be wrong. But the system just rewarded him. I don't care whether he's wrong, right? I'm more fascinated that football for all its rules all its discipline. We're going to be tough. We're going to be stronger than you. We're going to be more of a man than you. We're going to go into retirement limping and die early. Hey, never mind. We just lost to a small clown with the terrible mustache, which just loss. We just kicked our bleep up and down the field between doing mass singer and dancing with the stars. I love it. I think he looks perfect through what he's doing is great. I'm not disputing the great. I love it. I just think that he the pioneer is a clown. And I love all of it. I love the energy in it. Because all the contracts you believe in think about the coach. She has he just trampled a drill. Sergeant. Just trampled him here. Never mind. The rest of your career here is not going to be a whole lot fun pioneer. Mcdonald's is Ronald and our great for him. It's a great point. It is an excellent point. The pioneer mcdonagh. I put it on the poll better clown to lead movement. Ronald McDonald earn Tonio Brown. Let's consider the secret life of the INA. Most nesting doll living most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting, does she has plenty of time to think if she could Saturday she has no brain, however, when most nesting dole, his gyco, not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer pitchy in most nesting Dollond lot in life. Dr lebatardshow is the number of people who would risk certain death to go to Mars staggering because I don't believe it is still God's. Although now thinking about it. Wait, can I get famous is there an appearance fee? What is Mars pay is an appearance fee? I could colonize an entire land of content where I storm around and teach all the people of my primitive ways, I start sports radio and more. It's just you and no microphone listeners are going to be a struggle at the beginning. Maybe we don't know. Really? Right. Maybe we'll have the number one show on live at our show with as to God's on ESPN radio. We'll talk to Bill Barnwell at eleven o'clock eastern about what just happened to the Steelers. And how rare it is what just happened to the Steelers just know if you're listening. I don't know how Billy heard from me that I was anti Antonio Brown. When the only thing anyone ever years for me is that I'm player apologised, and I defend athlete misbehavior. I'm saying both things can be true. He could be acting like a clown show and be wrong at every turn. And yet still the reward is he gets it right at the end with the only thing that mattered dam, which is getting his pay fixed and ending up somewhere else. If he had it was horrible tone. I'm with Billy. I I had a tough time deciding you met at the Steelers humanity. Tony anybody? I'd love. You'd have to be mad at somebody. You have to take a side radio come up. I'm all for anything happening in sports that has Mike Greenberg. Tweeting don't hate the player hit the game. If that whatever happened good. I don't understand. Why bad leader follows Aaron Rodgers around and not Ben Rothlisberger. I mean, it's anyone else confused by this. He's pushing weapons away thirty seven years old. He's throwing young receivers under the bus constantly. He has passed. He's just been accused of fumbling on purpose. He always fought with his offense. Am I am? I crazy here having this conversation. Well, when you stared his hand there are two rings on it. There Rogers has one is to the threshold is that the tipping point to not make this a national talking point. He should be displaying better leaders. I think I might be right on this look at what to rings his gotten Eli manning people discuss ridiculously the idea of him in the hall of fame that second one is big man. I'm telling the second one is bid because Joe flacco. That's second ones the difference between getting in the hall of fame and not getting in the hall of fame. And right now, Erin seems to be on the bubble when Eli in I made a flacco at a second. He'd still be a raven. On the bubble. Right. I just learned something to that was unaware that Aaron Rodgers is on the hall of fame bubble. We don't make the rules here. Dan, just how it is. You have to rings. You got to go one on each handwrite. You said he had he had to on both. I would go if I had to rings them going one on each hand. That's fair you stare at his hands and he has to rings on those hands. Right. That's it doesn't matter where how he wears them. Well, let's figure this out for a second. Because I'd like to know what the Stu gods statistical scale is for the stuff because he's right when he says twos, a big one. But does this move across sports because LeBron James and shack have both been called underachievers by Stu gods? And they've got more than two. So is this a football thing. Yeah. It's a football thing. It's it's a different sport. Where in the NBA that one guy means so much to his team is organization. Rothlisburger is not out there all the time. Okay. Lebron is Rothlisberger has to rely on the defense. Lebron does not. So it's totally different. Lebron should have more and shack. Most certainly helped me understand. What your rules are in terms of position in sport and stuff, so two and football makes you golden forever. The franchise should side with you forevermore, you're too and football at quarterback if you're a quarterback, and you have two or more in the NFL you are set for life. You're go into the hall of fame, and you could stay with that organization for as long as you want. I think it might be right. I think that I think Mike you're wrong. You lose that Benz chine- rings have blinded Steeler management. They've gotten rid of all of their talent. They're going to be paying into new crown. Ton of money this year under the salary cap birds. What is it is it eleven percent of their salary. Cap is going to end Tonio Brown this year to keep the sealers keep taking fires on young quarterbacks because they don't know Ben Rothlisberger level of commitment for the position for the years to come and Ben Rothlisberger refuses to help them and takes a publicly combative stance against them in the media was the Steelers helped me here because the Steelers that a lot of funding stuff around them was the Steelers Villanueva thing the thing outside the locker room with a former service member who didn't want to be in the locker room during the anthem was that last year or the year before last I remember they fixed it last year, and everyone came and watched the NFL again because it's no longer an issue so Z year before okay because I want to go back to that moment in time and just like reconvene right there with Mike Tomlin and say, hey, what might you do a little different from right here from right here. The kneeling. You got a guy outside your locker room. You just told in the sideline report. You just told the sideline reporter we're going to remain in the locker room, and it's just going to be us. And then the next thing, you know, I mean there have rarely been three skill Blair's on the same team like these three guys and two of them blow up in your face. And now, you're just with the bloated Thirty-seven-year-old. You got you. I mean. Okay. Fair enough. He's gonna get sick. And as soon he's gonna get sick of it because everyone's getting sick of it there. He's pushing everybody away. He being Ben Rothlisberger. Open your eyes people and don't be blinded by the two rings, which is an absurd threshold to ranks. I mean, there are only three quarterbacks playing in the NFL right now that have multiple rings. Ben is one of them Brady and Eli they have job security for look at Eli. That's the perfect example. It's hard to argue with you when you look at ally when you simply looked at and I would I would say it's a bit of a stretch to call a job security. What do you I have? I mean the Steelers of one six Super Bowls begs responsible for half of them. I don't think it's a bit of a stretch to say that he lamenting has job security. He was out man. The people fired and then got gone already. And then they read. They didn't feel sorry for Joe flacco. Because one thing you know, what this argument has merit. I've been I've been flipped. I think got is right about this. You have to rings. You can do whatever you want, which is the sort you've made in Tokyo Brown bleaches mustache. And that's the reason that you've been able to do it the shine off those rings Brett farve. Zach got old. You know, why one ring? Exactly, right. Joe montana. Career as a forty nine. He went to Kansas City to rings. Many rings many well apparently to is threat over can get ready. You don't want to have too many Joe at four. Oh is that? Right. You don't wanna have too many? Okay. Steve young. Backing you up, okay. We gotta talk about this Jose gets. It goes story. We will do so next donlevatar punctuate this segment with what is your strike three. Call strike one. Would be sure. And then you stand up, and you have a good point to the right? Stugatz. That same for strike to strike three. You get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher? All right. The right arm goes up into the air. And then you finish it with the punt right on our way up into the air. See that. Does. This is our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. We had some fun at the expense of Antonio Brown who was charging five hundred dollars on cameo for very poor scripted messages that were insincere happy thirtieth birthday. And I hear this a second aniversary wedding. I loved it. I saw another one this weekend thought it was one of those cameo things. But it was just Antonio Brown. Telling Derek Carr, he was open. I'm not joking. He just comes out of the box with DC. I'm open. How do you think this is going to go friend Tonio and Oakland? Oh, he's gonna make a lot of money to go. Well. I think it's gonna go well in terms of production. I mean, he's got thirty million guaranteed to Dan sport. And then. Yeah. From a production standpoint, I think it'd be grazed not closer to the Super Bowl. But he got more guaranteed money on the other side of thirty. It's gonna go great because those checks are going to keep clearing. The raiders aren't going to go out of business before they go to vague vis a lot further away from the Super Bowl. But he's a lot closer to retirement. I mean, I mean, he's just closer to more money, which is what he wanted. Right. Yeah. Which at first it didn't seem that way. And then you realize that was a play here. No state taxes in Nevada which is where they're moving next year. It's just kinda hard for me to have faith at this will go well because it's the raiders for one. We have talked a number of different times with receivers like Steve Smith, Michael Irvin. Michael Irvin told that great store, you might have it. There of something that happened in the Super Bowl with him an Alvin Harper, but over the years, we have talked to all of the diva receivers, and in their most honest moments what you will get from them as I'd rather have the ten catches for one hundred thirty yards in. Loss than two catches for ten yards in a win. So stop making it about winning. And losing even though that might be the important thing to you the athlete winds when he cashes in in that sport with guaranteed money. But I'm not sure he's gonna get a catches. How am I supposed to reconcile what I saw with Mark Hooper? I thought Amari Cooper was washed because he just wasn't productive as a young player because because if it doesn't work there like it didn't work for Randy moss than two years from now, we'll have that same contract and he'll play somewhere else when Jon Gruden get blown out and may get blown out. He'll have the same contract and go somewhere else to play the end of a thirty three year old in the last year of a deal. But this was his time to cash in. It's why he did it with such deal. Like, it's what the reason that he did it is because of the way negotiations went with Ben Rothlisberger getting extended two years before they had to and they didn't do that for Antonio Brown. It was his absolute last chance ever to get thirty million plus guaranteed, and that's it took it in credit to the raiders because they were making some pretty confusing deals over there. Oakland. This is relatively low risk. They got him. If all the costs is money and a couple of food the productiveness of that guy is crazy. I can't believe the Steelers took this offer. I just can't. I'd rather Antonio Brown. Just sit than have a third and fifth round pick. I would he had to take the offer. He poisoned the well. And by certain reports, he wasn't exactly playing ball. With other offers that were out there. It's funny man with no real power. He had all the power, regardless. We'll leave it alone and come back to with Bill Barnwell in a second. But Jose Canseco, and I'm still waiting ESPN. Let's go thirty for thirty on just can take. Oh, he deserves it. If you're going to do it for Dion. You gotta do it for the stories knots. And so considered goes now on Twitter gamma where you're gonna go. She with Jose can can say on seeing aliens and Bigfoot, I'm pretty sure that legal's not gonna let that happen. Be idea of having multiple employees at an undisclosed location in the middle of the desert with Jose can Saco seems to be something that they're not. This is my father says his greatest enemy are ESPN and Disney's lawyer wait, their lawyers and security should absolutely be worried. Oh, they can Saco is promising you to see ski sasquatch is you're going to a special sasquatch reserve. You don't know how sasquatch is will act. These are very dangerous creatures that we don't know enough about. That's exactly right. I've had multiple conversations with other people and in my head, and these conversations have cover lots of issues involving safety, and if I will die on this. And then one of the things that I was worried about that. I was kinda hoping maybe we could get Jose on the phone to talk about beforehand is if he's encountered these big foot big feet. I'm not exactly sure the plural. If we ever do this poll. What is the plural of Bigfoot is it big feet or big foots? So if we were to see these big Foot's in their natural habitat, I'm assuming he's done this in the past. But I'm not sure the temperament of big feet, you know, and I don't know if he knows. The temperament of big feet. And he is familiar with big feeding, you know, like sometimes you see someone's dog, and they tell you this is the sweetest dog. And then a stranger comes in the dog kind of loses their mind. I don't know if it's the same with big feet. So I'm concerned that if we do encounter the big fee, which he says, we will what happens if they you know attack the RV that we're in how strong are the big feet. I don't know these things, and I don't know that he knows these things which is one of the concerning things that I'm assuming is going through the minds of the people at legal. Plus, we haven't even crossed the alien bridge, which is also a part of this. How do you even ensure a trip like this, honestly? The thing that you just reminded me of and I'm hoping you can do this for the rest of the show of this subject keeps coming up isn't arrested development episode where job the brothers splits his teeth on a candy apple and the rest of the episode everything. He says sounds lispier through the tooth like four or five times. You can hear the whistling through the tooth. And then they just run the joke. It happens like eighty times during the episode where every tenth word with an S has that I want you to do that with big feet. I want you to make the plural big foot. Big feet. No. I just want you to keep referencing big feet. The plural of it. Can I get to this consent? Go story. I'm kind of confused by this whole arrested development thing where we go in here. So here is some Twitter action from Jose Canseco over the weekend. So his belly speaking with a list, just so we're all clear quote watching world of dance watching jaylo text Alex Rodriguez little. Does she know that he is cheating on her with my ex wife? Jessica poor girl. She has no idea who he really is. I was there a few months back with her when he called her and her phone he continued and then Alex Rodriguez stopped being a piece of bleep stop cheating on Jennifer Lopez. And then finally, and this is usually how it ends with Jose can take Conceico diatribes on Twitter, usually Alex Rodriguez. I challenge you to a boxing match or an EMMY meant anytime you want for money. Of course, I know he doesn't say for money. But that is that it goes without saying. Great. Last week. You said Jose can Saco has regret over leaking some of the the names in juiced and that he's been ostracized. And he doesn't like that. But he does stuff like this, which seems a double down all, but he's crazy when it comes to women and has been all his life. Like, these e is crazy in terms of jealousy. Just in terms of women because he's promising to see aliens and sassy and he's praising all right? Put this on the poll. What's crazier about Jose Canseco that he tells you that you can see a big feet and alien big Foot's or his jealousy. It's tough here who do you believe more could Saco or Iran. I mean. Arabs, not saying anything. I don't think Iran's denying it right now. Billy, you didn't understand anything. I was saying did you? I think it's big feats donlevatar. Who? Guillermo, sassy, stugatz sexy. When you're Sesing visit live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. So if James Dolan is not the worst owner in sports, he is a hall of fame loser. As an owner. He's not the worst. He's in the conversation. Now that Donald sterling has been run out of that league. And so we've got some sound for you from basketball from James Dolan. And a lot of people have been telling James Dolan for years to sell the Knicks TMZ has some sound here. That is funny and interesting, but before we get to it. Let's just get to that. Troy Aikman story involving Michael Irvin. And Alvin Harper because the way that I had always heard the story was that Michael Irvin? Ran down the field chasing Alvin Harper with a touchdown. That was supposed to go to Michael Irvin. Let's hear Troy Aikman. Tell that story true or false Alvin Harper was running in the Super Bowl with the football. And Michael was chasing him a touchdown for Alvin Harper Michael was chasing him because it was an audible yelling. That's I touchdown. You're running with my touchdown. That's my touchdown. Well that will. That was in the NFC championship game. Our first one in the ninety two CS and we had called this play. It was eight ninety six flat and the six curl route. And the eight was the skinny post, and and Michael had been running skinny post the entire game. And I'd never thrown it, and he's been running the curl or Alvin Harper, Ben running the curl and based on coverage. Every time we call that playing the game it pretty much went to Alvin Harper. And so there late in the game. We call eight ninety six f flat Michael will do this from time to time. He would try to line up where he thought the ball was going to go. And so he told Alvin, hey, you run the post I'm going to run the curl because that's where he thought it would be thrown. Again, what's interesting about that? Is that I think because Michael went to run the curl. Is it created the coverage that we ultimately got I don't know that we would have gotten the same. Look Michael was the one running that route. But you know, Alvin taxes the ball. And Michael believes he would have been the guy getting it had. He not sold Alvin changed position. Yes. He was running down the field naming that you know, he was happening. He could be it was not a selfish act on his part. But he was screaming that that was his ball. And it should have been him making that. What it is a funny thing and the most cloudy, I mean after Ocho Cinco Tarallo wins. Michael irvin. The most clowney unprofessional behavior from a diva wide receiver. We've seen is from this guy with the died mustache, you know, between takes on the mast singer and dancing with the stars. Totally nuking the Steelers we will talk to Bill Barnwell about that. Because I really am. I I am really startled that all of this worked out with the Steelers taking a beating and in Tonio Brown getting everything that he wanted when he had no real power except to make a mess. How did this work out perfectly for Antonio Brown? I think about the well, he's really good. That's that's how it worked out perfect. I mean team had them would zero guaranteed dollars. They could have just kept him. And he turned that into thirty plus million by missing a football game. You know, what do to get out of Pittsburgh and the pillar of professionalism? That is. Is the Rooney's. Go ahead and hire drew Rosenhaus and be something less than a pillar professionalism. Unless of course, you're the quarterback with two rings. Then they'll pay you forever. I want to get to Bill Barnwell in about fifteen minutes. But before we do that how bad is this James Dolan sound Mike because the Knicks exist just to be laughed at and James Dolan is getting told by everybody for years that he should sell the team. And what does he do? He does what bad dictator? Do. He tries to kick people out of the facility. The sound comes courtesy of TMZ sports. One or not. Anymore? That's rude. Opinion. And you know, what joy watching them on TV what three of in all the cabinet all per cabinet all hip academy. Any ken? What's anyone going to do about it boss move? It is a boss move. I mean, but listen those fans who care about that team, and that organization so much and have endured so much Barrasso in so much losing they deserve the right to say James sell the team, and they should be able to say that without Dolan. Oh, but he's got the power. And no one's going to do anything about it. What are they gonna do is the Commissioner gonna find him for doing that to one of the customers? Or is it Commissioner gonna hide under his desk because the owners are in charge. What would you do? I would not allow an owner to treat my customers that way, and especially not that owner because everyone's fed up with that owner in the way that sterling got gone is not because of the racist things. He said it's because everybody was fed up with that owner like everyb- all the other owners didn't want him around. He was consistently embarrassing other owners, and this guy's doing the same thing. Like these. He think about this who second place right now for worst owner. I don't I think this is the consensus number one overall pick worst owner in sports, go ahead and give me an we're including the one whose company was indicted and football and speaks to homeless people to draft his quarterbacks Rooney's are in that conversation right now, they are not. You don't have a better contribution than that. That's the best. I don't have a war zone or anywhere at sports than than James Dolan. I mean, he's the absolute worst. But I am holding out hope that we get direct Kyrie Irving and Zion. Williamson. And then he becomes the best owner in sports Dolan was right on that wasn't an opinion from that guy isn't cleared if sentence and his right on sell the team is not an opinion. Yeah. Should sell the team opinion. So that was semantics Dolan was kicking him out for. Yeah. Well, yes them what do you mean? By like is an opinion. And he's like, no, it's not he wins point. He wins in every way. Right. He keeps getting except for the place that matters which is in the uniform. I mean, it's your stance on not allowing an owner to talk to people this way is an interesting one. No, no, no. It's denying them the the paying customer access to the arena. It's not the he could say back, whatever he likes. He could what he can't do is have security escort a paying customer out for that. Because I just always assumed your take. Just because you have a ticket doesn't allow doesn't give you the right to treat people like this because it doesn't. But once the owner does that and really honestly, the owner can do that just don't get caught doing that. Once there's a video of an owner saying that to a paying customer, if you're the Commissioner, you ought to find the owner Daniel Snyder put it on the pole Guillermo at lebatardshow, who's the worse owner, James Dolan or Daniel Snyder, I'm gonna give zone some credit. He actually was pretty polite in banning this person told him on joy, watching television time video could have gone a lot worse. If he were he was mad at the guy and he handled it his tone never got outta line. I'm citing with James Dolan. That's his move is to ban people. Didn't who didn't do it. Did he do it to Charles? Oh training. Course. He did also told him to sell the team. We got him arrested. I mean, you got him arrested in front of everyone act Madison Square Garden, he lost that one on the court of public opinion. But it's actually these are boss moves from James Dolan. The team doesn't have to be good for there to be a demand for season tickets. He's speaking from a point of leverage, and it's a privilege to have those seats. No matter how bad they are. I'm just imagining this Kevin guy. He said hold them for Kevin. Kevin do I imagine. Kevin. Where's a big black cloak? I'm afraid of the guy that holding them for Kevin. Can you imagine? How about Canada's? If he's like everyone else with the Knicks. He's not any good at whatever that job is. You don't think they're gonna kick and people out of that arena. They're the best they need to give. There's only two instances that we've ever spoken about. And they've actually been pretty embarrassing for the organization. So maybe they're both the only time we talked about the Knicks. The last few seasons is when they're doing things like this. It's been about eight years since we talked about the Knicks. And it's only when TMZ sports is finger around somebody's telling James Dolan to sell the team. Some other good basketball sound came from Jeff Van Gundy, we will get to Stu gods is weakened up survey shins here in about forty five minutes per play the Van Gundy sound trading LeBron. And look I think in the off season they have to retail this roster. Right. It could be. Trade four and Anthony Davis or I think they need to export trading. Lebron for getting as much as they can what are you doing? What are you doing? No. You gotta get on the right time on if I could trade him for the clippers into cap space, which could give me a better chance to get Durant or Kawhi Leonard would I not do that the broad James not get trading. Okay. You got to put everything on the though you can I hear from the players house. It's business. Everything is business. Well, if it's business then I have to do what's best for my business. I'm not saying, you definitely trade them up saying everything on the table tickets this team better. But bottom line. There's no way that's happening. How do you know?

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Canseco Comes Out Swinging

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Canseco Comes Out Swinging

"Does the anticipation of another desk lunch of baby, carrots and ranch dressing. Keep you up at night. Here's a cure, extra spicy and news. San Francisco Chronicle podcast by me Soleil. How? Justin Phillips, you can subscribe to extra spicy now on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Hello and welcome to as plus the San Francisco Chronicle's podcast on the Oakland A.'s and Major League Baseball I'm your host chronicle as beat writer Susan's lesser and today we're talking to Jose Canseco the former as all-star and forty forty man. He'll talk to us about his thoughts on baseball restarting. He has some strong words about commissioner Rob Manfred, but first we started off talking about Jose's latest business venture. It's been a while since we've chatted I think maybe since. One of those reunion years. What have you been doing with yourself train? The quarantine and all of the corona virus shutdown. I know you've been busy. You've got a new product. Tell us about it. Well the new products in the making for about five years believe it or not, and called the forty forty or power extender, forty forty, and what I do is I teach the power hitting, so it's trying to figure out how I could create some type of teaching tool that would help kids really maximize. Their sections were ball their rotation, compression and lift. So I created this is. An armed guard that you put on either on right hand you put on your left arm. Your left any right arm. And basically with the Buggy court system to which structure at helps you extend that arm directly to the ball every single time for curricular swing every single time, not only that at accelerators swing through the zone also. So when you apply both hands whether it'd be softball, baseball golf and accelerate suspended gives you a perfect swing through the ball of an accelerator swing by about twenty percents or something you can actually buy ticket. Right out of the box. Put It on his game, ready and boom. It's going to teach you how to hit a softball baseball golf ball. Caress correctly and consistently and is going to accelerate. The club to the Zome, so you kind of one of these novice guys that you know especially old. Age Bracket, but one of the all of the guys that you know that was a for an instant fix. Everybody wants to hit a softball further. You know a baseball Ker than a golf ball further. This is it it's it's amazing. Also have interchangeable Bungee Cord manse which controls. Much pressure actually end up. And and and the velocity. And it's going to come in different colors and comfort different pads inside. You can change actual texture of. Of the Elbow Pad, Thicker Pad, you have thinner pad. You have different colored cords of in combination of pension court. And the VELCRO south that to your arm it's GonNa come in different codes also so I think it's going to be a great teaching tool to begin with, but if you actually want to put it on you by when you put on getting to the game, you're GonNa hit the ball further instantly. So that's what's called forty. So you see this as as a practice aid and you could. Could you actually see people using it in competition, or is it really more for kind of perfecting things and gaining strength than working on your swing golf baseball softball off field. It's both both. Does the training tool, or you can pop it on. You know if you buy one, you can pop it on right away and rod where you're gonNA notice a big increase in Blasi. And the way you actually hit the ball, the angry you take to the actual now you using both arms and both hands right. She'll be releasing instead of your lead arm empowerment. If you're right handed with the left hand. Left hand, it'd be your right hand. Instead of that boggling is is it extends right to the ball, so you wanna put it as it's an actual instant cheat the national instant vicks I originally created as a teaching tool for people of all ages, but it Kinda. We've all been to a tour. You can put right on right now and. It balls further not known for much about. That's crazy. How did you come up with this idea? Oh my God. I've been helping guys. Guys. Call me then whether it'd be You Know High School, College or minor global level. And want to gain more power and the only way to gain more power to take the right direction to whether it be you know, get get softball baseball dot ball. You have to have the right power. You have to have a right leverage the right angle to the actual the correct swing, which enables you to release your hands that much faster, so actually teach that. That I don't teach the auto hitting it st on a power hitting, and I hope people don't get confused the art of hitting and the power hitting our two different worlds like apples and oranges, so basically maximizing the the leverage and power that any player has wow. Who who did you work with on on getting a design in the prototype and and I worked with a company called Davidson, and they about a year and a half two years. It took a while to get his actually actually created a prototype, and they kinda redesigned it. And now it's ready to go as we speak right now. I am looking for investors I've got twenty five companies that want to do a license deal, believe it or not, I do not WanNa. Do license deal I think there's there's greater much rate of money to be made. In a in just actually mass producing this product I did get an offer from from China. You want to produce for fifteen dollars and we are going to sell them. This states for for ninety nine of the poverty margins huge, so we're just GONNA go with that. have you talked any actual professional baseball? Players or golfers is their interest in that, or is this really more for amateurs? Who wanted just improve their game? Well here's the thing I. It's for everyone is for every age limit and what's going to happen I? Kinda foresee this happening is that if I put this thing in a professional golfers and or a professional baseball players and first thing, they're gonNA. DO WE'RE GONNA out lie, and they're going to say I'M GONNA. Say why they're going. GonNa say we because it works it. We're so good, but the professional markets, only maybe half the one percent of the whole market, the ninety nine percent market, and some is going to be from the actual novice who wants to learn how to hit properly. Who wants to increase bat speed increased club has beaten once the ball further. Well I'm looking on the website right now. Everybody can conducive of interest. It's P. X., forty forty. The numbers not spelled out PX four, zero four zero dot com and the designs cool. It looks like something like a stormtrooper would wear and star wars or something like that. It's very It's like the most advanced elbow guard kind of looking thing. You've ever seen so It's also it's also looks pretty wild. I love it. Yeah, it's very cool looking. We have three patents on who actually have a international patent. We have a US patent and we have a medical complication patent because I think eventually men medically we can use this as a biotic external peace. And I'm also now on my way of reading kind of like my knees. For individuals who have you know all the people like for example. I have a bad right knee I haven't had time to really go and have surgery, so you would put this kind of bionic knee brace on and the issues, not sitting down, everybody can sit down issues. Stanley Cup so these bionic actually help you stand back up and moves laterally. And you know for weakened words that people. Just want to wear them that one a little bit of help, a little bit more mobility back. You know instead of having very expensive surgeries. In the the recovery time. These biotic needs work great. Jose can't take it so businessman. That's That's your new thing. That's that's great. I going to be interested to see what the reactions are to. This and I love to see a professional player of some sort. Get this in their hands and see what they do with it. It's already proven scientific would prove the structure of it. It works period it does enhance you know the wage structure with with the bungee system, the extension system, and also keeps you from hyperextending the way the actual module works, but If you really analyze it the which direction only one thing it corrects course wings, and then accelerates whatever club you holding in your hand through the zone. That's I wish. Yeah. Now you known for your strong opinions. It's one of the reason we reporters always always enjoyed chatting with you. Jose baseball's just getting back. Training camps or opening up all over the country, what are your thoughts from afar as you're as you're watching all of this getting going in the middle of a pandemic? Well I'm looking. For Moses depend on it, and it looks like for some reason. The pandemic is spread. I I think the major mistake they made from the very beginning. Let's talk about sports is that? From? The very beginning, they should mandated. People wear mask period. And that would have stopped spread for example. I don't know who's running this country. I have no idea who's running sports, but if they just would have said listen. From Day One It's mandatory. State lots federal law to wear these masks. We wouldn't be where we are right now. Why shutdown home all businesses when these business could have been run with people wearing masks? It doesn't make any sense again of structures very poor. It's falling apart. Political structure is just completely. Falling apart. Talk, sports, which I'm an expert at sports follow. Exactly what our federal government or state governments mandate, which of course it did. They fill in line and did the same thing if if people if if if people in. Control of Major League Baseball would have been looking smartest listen. Why don't we just okay? We're not GONNA have fans. Let's open up the season. Because as we know. Eighty percent of major league baseball revenue is what. TV packages. And of course they're not educated smart enough to realize that I would have said if all running major league baseball, so listen. We're going to play. You know we're GONNA wear masks. If you're going to have fans, it's a mandate to mass, but at least let's gain the TV package revenues. What are eighty to ninety percent of what Major League Baseball makes, but they're not smart. I've dealt with Major League baseball before, and they're not the smartest people there. Not The brightest bulbs in the actual box. They're just not. It's the way it is, so they felt. And followed. What federal government said what what the state what they mandated. And from the very beginning I if you do the math. I I'm like natural in mathematics and common sense, and if you have that, this world will be a lot more easy to live and believe me. From the very beginning, they knew what the coronavirus was the new. The potential spread was because they talked about it. Imagine if from day one. That would have mandated mandate admitted a federal law to wear masks. We wouldn't be where we are right now. Just. That simple logic. That simple common sense, that's simple mathematical equation. We are today so major league baseball now now some of the players are testing positive because carone show. Of course we are. We are already fucked up every messed up there really stuck footing quicksand. They stuck the foot in their mouth like they always do. Federal Government. You know. Politicians again they're always fighting each other Democrats and Republicans whose best with what they can do better trying to do trying to outdo each other left and right, and they always mess up. Forget it. Do we live? We live? We live in very. Corrupt and unstable system. That's just the way it is still the changes. But now let's do. It was Major League Baseball. So now they want open the seats, and now players of course testing them now a lot of players testing positive for the virus. So how do you play it out now? I guess Manfred. He's a four to be honest with you. He doesn't know what he's doing either now. He's instigating sixty. He's he's actually saying. He now he's mandating. A sixty game season, spring, training, and so forth, but now players testing positive was. Delayed some spring training, not spring training are being separated pitchers and one's. Position players in another. The whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Should not play this year. Theory messed up so bad. It's ridiculous, but again you can't commonsense logic math idiots. That's just it just does not work and yeah I'm about I'm about telling the truth of the way it is. Yeah, that's. One of the reasons we love talking to you and you. You had your differences with Major League baseball over the years I know you feel like you've you are kind of blackballed in the in the wake of the steroids scandal in your book juiced, which has never really made sense to me because you actually open kind of drew back the curtain on the steroid era. Era and they've they've kind of resented you for it. It seems like even while others who very clearly have been connected with steroids and multiple times have been completely re- rehabilitated in there. You know in broadcast booths and things like that. What's your take on on kind of the differences between you and say somebody you spar with occasionally on? Twitter Alex Rodriguez well. Directed Against Major League Baseball and now Rigas did not even out of ordering is in a sense, sued Major League Baseball and he was having having these issues when they suspended him for allegedly using PD's and the game game suspension and a fine, so and then he sued. In the whole aftermath, so he did have issues major league baseball, but. In Major League Baseball's is. I was a major problem because number one I told you listen. History has proven this. Whether it, be. In in the federal and state if you tell the truth. Against a major institution, believe me something will happen to you no matter what and it's been proven historically day in day out whether you're going to major league baseball whether you're going to get against the police department whether they are A. Against against a religious belief. Choose Sayers with. Whistle blowers are not accepted. In our government. And our country. That's just the way it is. That's why you start realizing that well. If True Sayers are not welcome in this country, then this country must be corrupt. Institutions are probably correct, and you're right. They probably are. You can read more about my talk with Jose. CANSECO AT SF CHRONICLE DOT COM reminder. Subscriptions can be found at SF chronicle dot. com slash pod. We'll be back with more with Jose Canseco in just a moment. The twenty twenty baseball season like all sports is on hiatus, but we at the chronicle know that you still want to hear from giants, players, coaches, managers, and other baseball newsmakers on the giants slash podcast I'm beat writer Henry Shulman colleague John Shea and I plan to keep you informed in print online and here on the splash, especially on the important matter of when baseball will resume, the giants splash available on your favorite podcast at. You were doing little broadcasting with the as a few years ago. You're helping out with the the studio game and post game this current group of as which is a very strong team considered to be a contender after back-to-back ninety seven. When seasons you saw a lot of these guys basically every day when you were doing the broadcasts a few years ago as young players. Matt Chapman Matt Olsen. I. Niagara Guys like that. What are you? What are your impressions of the as as they go into what you know potentially will will be a short very short season, too. Maybe even a St- who knows halted season? Yeah a lot of young players I, think now coming into their own, I think really understanding of baseball, understanding the League, and you might see an MVP from that team. Chapman of nihil extremely impressive. So. You might see an MVP there. I think I. Think Eventually Not GonNa. Come come on. The problem, is this? If, you play Sixty Games K. most of the time coming out of spring training. The first month of pitchers are ahead of schedule. The veges have an advantage on hitters. So what you are going to see is maybe this year. You know you put it in. Perspective perspectively really thinking. You you're going to have a pitcher dominated. Six would going to be now. six games. Yeah, YOU'RE GONNA. See a heavily. Pitching dominated season just because the hitters always have to catch up to a pitching knowing from buts about it because pitchers throw. Off Amount, they can throw at home. and. They're going to gain more than a hitter. Taking regular BP which straight fastballs come down the middle at seventy five eighty miles per hour, not much about it. So just as greater for here than it is for for pitcher especially early on so this year. Whoever has the strongest pitching staff is going to dominate, and they're going to extend the playoffs. Win The playoffs and go to the grocery so if you're gambling man. Exclude often right now. I do not even care that the Yankees have one of the best office of juggernauts in the world. For the best pitching staff to win it all. That could be Oakland I. mean their rotation very strong their bullpens? Yeah. It's you know I. Kind of everything goes out the window and sixty games. Who knows an injury to could decide to essentially the whole season or you know what positive Cova test could could. Send a couple tests. Positive teams could be basically out of it so yes, but if you look at everything being even comparing apples to apples, look at the team with the best starting. Rotation. My Po would be my favorite. That's it's a very good point You've been a little bit in the news. people been talking a lot about the bash. Because you know there's there's no high-fiving. Allow during the pandemic. On Yeah in fact, just in general life I think they're saying bump elbows. They're telling just normal people don't shake hands. Bump elbows. You guys started with the bashes can be everywhere. Yeah. I heard that they called me about that. Yeah, I guess. The bashes back bump elbows. I because this is corona virus, issue or showing up for the players. Go teams because you think about most time when you go high fives. You're wearing a batting glove. Another issue is. They going to make these hitters change batting lows after every at bat every game. Are they going to disinfect them I? I'm wondering what the policy is. GonNa be for disinfecting clothing equipment. I it's GonNa. Be Strange. Yeah, that'd be very. They have two houses. Yeah, your friend of mine, Steve Loosen. It says they have to order ten times as many balls because they have to rotate the balls out more often, but they also can only use one set of balls every five days. They go out of the rotation. They go under ultraviolet lights. They get disinfect. And then they can come back, so they've. They've had to order. They've ordered fifteen thousand masks. I mean the stuff that the equipment manager has to deal with now is off the charts crazy different from usual that you guys are in charge of their own equipment, so batteries have to bring their own donut out to the batting circle, and they have to pick it up and take it back, so you could fly out with the bases loaded ending. You gotta go back and pick up your. Take into the Dugout, so yeah, it's a you're right about gloves I. Don't know what they do about gloves. I don't know, but it's good to be very London. You're going to see a different game out there about about and. Another question. The players Argue with UMPIRES. Coaches argue with empires. Argue with them pies because I've noticed these players spit on on Pires. Players. Congo just been. I mean it becomes crazy out there. Are they going to mandate some type of? She older mask on piracy after where coaches I think we're going to see. You know that dress code kind of change a little bit, and and being modified just because of Kobe if you know. I I. Don't think they should play the season. I think they're on desperation mode. I think the Kobe because we made a mistake. The government made a mistake. The feds made a mistake from the very beginning should mandated these mass from the get go. We wouldn't be here right now. So I don't know I don't know what's going to happen I. The seat should not happen. With you because. Now that we're noticing. The count is even higher state to state that this Colbert now spreading again. Since, they started activating certain businesses in certain casinos and certain restaurants, so it's only getting worse. Yeah, I, agree with you. I like that idea about maybe a face shield for UMPIRES. Maybe catchers too That's that's actually a really good idea, but I'm with you that the the most safe thing they could do is just wait until next. Wait until there's a vaccine so thing that's GonNa. Definitely not take place this year. Because of all of this is the all the reunions that were expected for that one, thousand, nine hundred. such a great team. Obviously I think a little bit overlooked maybe under appreciated. What are your memories from then? I Remember Nineteen Ninety team, yeah, well now part of the not eighty six through nine, hundred, ninety, two, when I was traded, but I'll tell you that team the Oakland A.'s won't from nine hundred eighty five team, who no one really knew weren't really drawing fans. I remember when I came up. September call up. And we hardly had any fans to eighty six, hundred, ninety, two, selling out every game, this was overnight. They built this juggernaut. Basically Myself Maguire, coming in you know Steinbach, and and what wise, and of course it isn't of Steward Eckersley They built this juggling almost overnight. To where we were contenders every single year I think we should have won more world series. I think our lack of experience. We kind of have a young team. Didn't able us to to win. You know four five world series in a row, but but then again there was a lot of tough competition out there and I've always said this. It's not the best team that wins in seven game series is the team that placed best in a seven game series actually wins. Yeah, so I got how played in a short series, but if you look at those teams that beat us and we would have had. Let's say a twenty game series against them. We would actually beat them the majority of time, but we did get out playing a very short period of of Seven Games, which certain teams. But. I'll tell you. We had back then the most exciting team if you really think about it, we had characters. We had power hitters. we had some of the best starting pitches. We had the best relief pitcher in baseball. We had the number. One you know based in the game which Ricky Henderson, so we had such an exciting team. Not only did we win, but but but I think our blend of chemistry. And the exciting players that we actually had that you had entertained the fans. It was just an amazing time. Yeah, when I think about that in one thousand nine hundred team. I mean I think you guys were favored. You know especially coming off eighty nine. And then you blazed through that AL CS in four games, and I think it was a little bit of a layoff. In that layoffs are tend to not be great in the postseason, but man. You guys were set up I thought you know to really to take it all again. and just kind of A. Maybe it was just a lefty much out on this on the field at the AL CS or had too much time off. Are you talking about Cincinnati? Reds correct asinine reds. The they swept in four games. Basically, they just up pitched us. Yeah, it'd be honest with you. Their pitching staff was on every member and I know how to complain about this I. Remember Veal I'm remember the first step Patrick Henderson had. Opening up that series that call the pitch on him four to five inches outside. On a three to count, he should have been I. You struck out I went. Oh my God if they're gonNA, give us a real fast of cutter. and. I sit said they're going to give the pitch four inches outside. We are in trouble. We are in trouble and what happened. If you look at that game, how many strike up off the plate four or five inches? A Lot, so we knew that that someone was expanded. We were going to have trouble now. A great pitcher to begin with you give a great pitcher, four or five inches outside. His basically unhittable so I mean we just ran into that Juggernaut of pitching and it was. You know tied series. Then we got gosh. Who are I? Forget who it was Hatcher who was five for five. I mean they were just? They were just on fire yeah. It was just. Everything went wrong for us and everything went right for them. Yeah, hundred percent such a good team. I really do think it gets a little bit underrated and you had. A year you also had your brother Ozzie plane on the team at times such much must have been fun. You guys both had had a birthday the other day, do you? What do you guys do for your get together? D Call. Did You sky? What do do when you for for? You know basically what we had here that I had a little birthday party here. At the House we put a little bit of poker because we don't go out. Because his corona virus, I'll just play golf and stay home. and. Try to stay in shape as much as possible, but that's what we did. I'm and my daughter was in town I got a surprise visit from her. For my birthday, too, because my birthday of course, July second I got a surprise visit from her, and then she shear flow weekend. And we, we had a great time. That's terrific, well a belated happy birthday from us at the San Francisco Chronicle always nice to catch up with you. Thanks for joining us. On as plus they can't take. Our thanks again. Jose Canseco for joining us on as plus. You can follow Jose on twitter at Jose. Canseco Our producer today was Karen Creighton. We'll be back again later in the week with more as plus thanks for listening. 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Hour 3: Ron Magill

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Ron Magill

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But I think anything over eight is going to do that because what they're going to do is they're gonna mmediately try to take out the dog's ability to to fricking run. I it's going to go into the tendons of the legs, you know if you get eight cats, good cats, good fast cats. They can get into a Karatas and the dog bite it and bleed out. I mean, I think eight good cats might be able to do it. Put it on the poll would eight good cats. Take out a police dog. That's a great question. It's not a good question. That's a great question. You gotta talk eight. Good cats. Now I'm not talking about, you know, eight win. Be cats. All right, make it eight. Good cats. Put in parentheses, not Wimpy so that we can have a a scientific poll how many Wimpy cats. I, I don't think all the Wimpy cats in the world are going to be cats, but just not gonna be able to fight. All right. We'll put that on the poll. Would all the Wimpy cats in the world beat up and single police dog go ahead Cody and speaking of cats around that, that weird story out of the Indianapolis zoo about the. Killed her male partner, her male. The line that was the father, her cubs, you know, I was talking on CNN all the stations yesterday about that bottom line is this. Nobody really knows exactly what happens. But here's the fact mothers are very protective of their cups. I have seen our line is here attack the male, the father of the cubs. If you've got to aggressive too close to the cups. So that's one thing. Another thing is she may have just been tired of them. I mean, there's sometimes you just get really ticked off and she lost it and she just shut him up. Now it's pretty rare because of the fact that Linus is generally smaller unless powerful than a male, but you might have had a Wimpy mail there. Now we all know this relationships with the the woman wears the pants and relationship. And this could have been very much the case with this cat. Another thing is that the cubs when not that young anymore and they were females and they may have been cycling and when they were cycling this male thought of nothing but breeding and the female was going to have nothing to do with that. And she took him out that way. But the bottom line is I have seen that happen in the wild. I have seen a female lioness actually take out a male, not kill him, but fight him so much that he ran away urinating over himself. And I've seen it happen. Under human care also. So this is not something that's unheard of. It is rare, but not unheard of. There's no way to predict it. Like I say they could have been acting totally normally. And then one thing just sends her off and she goes off the edge that video that we showed you last week of the Mongoose making lions back down how weird or abnormal was that, you know, it's not necessarily abnormally. I think it's very normal. If these animals will be very aggressive and chasing any kind of predator and lions, sometimes they, they get incredibly perplexed when they look at something that normally is going to be running away from them. Okay. Have to understand. That's why I always tell people the worst thing you could do from any type of carnivore whether it be a domestic dog or cat, or a lion or tiger is runaway turn your back and run away because that's just is an incentive to the instinct to attack you. Now when an animal like that is used to running after something, as you said something running away further, enforcing that that behavior, when you stop and stand your hands up and scream all of a sudden they're confused like, oh, wait a minute. This is not normal. That gives you a chance that gives you a chance. So what those animals are doing is they're screaming they're giving their best show. The line is going, wait a minute. Why don't you running away? Maybe there's something here. I don't know. I need to reevaluate this. Sometimes it's still doesn't end well for the for the Mongoose a lion is is you know what I've looked at this very closely. There's nothing to be afraid of and killed him anyway. But sometimes that bluff works Taylor. You're on with Ron McGill of zoo, Miami, go ahead Taylor, hey, Ron. I was wondering how far away we are from being able to properly communicate with intelligent animals like dolphins or guerrillas and such things. Got a good question. I really don't know. I hope it's sooner than later. I know that those animals definitely have their own language. I think it's a very intricate, very involve language, and I hope that sometime maybe in my lifetime we can figure out a way to kind of figure it out because I think there's things that these animals, no, that they can communicate to us. That would be incredibly helpful. And all of our quality of lives, George, Ron with Ron, McGill zoo, Miami, go ahead, George, we're on death in. I saw that recently. A new pygmy hippo was born after zoo, and at the that the hippo Iran reading into NBC article that they oppose still on name. I'm wondering why the hippo is in going to be named Dan, and if so, why not? Well, I'm going to be totally transparent and totally honest with you here. They haven't named it because they're waiting for the biggest donor to come up with the donation that's going to give them the privilege to give you animal the name, it's called classic development in the zoo industry. And so that's what they're doing. They're going to give someone the privilege in exchange for a donation for the conservation of the hippo, what would it cost me to name it? Dan. You know, ten. I don't know. I should find out what it costs and I should make. Let's find out. I wanna find out what it would take to to name the hippo. Dan lebatardshow I wanna I wanna full name. I want to know what that what I need to give you what what my charitable contribution has to be for you to have to tell people when they go see that hippo, hey, let's meet Dan Levitan. Yes, I will find that out for you. All right, please do I put that Mark that down guy. So I've remembered asked him next week. I don't want to forget about this. I want that to be my legacy. I don't want anything else named after me. Don't put something on the business school. Don't nothing. That's what I want. My legacy. There you go to the hippo. You could go to the zoo and see Dan Le Batard Lou. You're on with Ron McGill, go head. Are there any animals? No consume cannabis. There are. There are animals that will consume cannabis. Yes. I don't know of any specifics, but the fact that it exists in the wild to exist in the wild, there's certainly animals that will consume it. Hey, hey, Ron. I've read a lot of articles lately about animals theft in in various forms from research facilities in et cetera. And I'm wondering Zuma AME ever experienced animal theft or attempted theft. Actually we have. It was probably about twenty five years ago. Someone broke into our amphitheater and still are our show birds the the parents do all the thinking and talking and demonstrations in the show. So that was a crime and unfortunately was never solved. We did also lose some tortoises about ten years ago, which is the main reason why those tortoises were moved off exhibit because it's sad to say that if something small enough for somebody to reach over and grab it and take it, there are people that, unfortunately, we'll do that. So we unfortunately took those smaller tortoises off exhibit. And now there's just the five hundred pounds which would be a little bit more difficult to discreetly take out of those who can I name one of those five hundred pounders Dan. Would that cost? Why are people stealing tortoises? There's a huge black market Dan. I mean, when you think people don't understand this, but in the the black market of exotic animals is second only to drugs. Wow. Did you know put that on the poll? Did you know that the tortoise black market was flourish. The animal the exotic animal market include tortoises, snakes, birds, all kinds of what is the video that you are going to view for us today? Okay. Well, Lorenzo got a little guilty because he had that horrible snuff film that we showed last time and that was terrible. So now he's got this thing here. I got Bacchus monkey here, and a preposterous monkey is the Jimmy Durante monkey. Basically, inborn Ola has sitting here on a dock and just eating and you see this massive, floppy knows, but it might look a little gross at offensive to most people, but to the female profits monkey. That is huge. That is a big same love it. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, and it helps them also make a sound resonates sound that is also very attracted to the females. So that calls the Jimmy Durante monkey beautiful monkeys. A great example of just bio diverse. City in wildlife? Yeah, only the males get the big, the big big nose is that the one that looks at the apes, it looks most like a human being because man, oh man, that knows makes it like Jimmy Durante Jimmy, Durante knows. And most of your listeners are probably too young to understand you amazing look at it that looks like Jimmy Durante. It does. It does, and that's a classic. That must be all right wrong. We'll talk to you next week. Take your guys have a good one, but by isn't just for job interviews anymore. It's a lifestyle and HP the new line of men's suiting only at Saks. Fifth and HP is modern shooting design for your active lifestyle. Elevate your shooting game with HP shop online to find a store near you at Saks Fifth dot com. Donlevatar. I love me. Some doctors have a lot of respect for the medical profession stugatz except chiropractors. These live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. We have to now get this scariest man in the history of wrestling right after Chris Jericho, Jack action. Yeah. If you were listening through us in our co, Chris Jericho said, his rejected wrestler name was Jack action. He was telling us the story of a Mexican stand off a Mexican airport where he and Mang were fighting security. And Allison has been tracking this guy all day because we need to get him on the show what is happening with that search right now. Alison. Well, I found him, which is very exciting for me. It's like I can't even explain it. So I found him he's just working. So there's been, where's he working these days? Where's the scariest man in professional wrestling working these days? Well, I don't know if I should say that should I say where he works. He works. He works in the car business. I'll say that. He's a car salesman. I know the scariest man in professional wrestling is a car, put it on the pole. Guillermo at lebatardshow would the scariest man in professional wrestling, make good cards salesman. So what where's the search going though? We're going to get him today. I hope so. I hope so. I've messengered multiple messages. Inundate people Alison starts calling people. They immediately think someone has died. Yeah, my stepfather said, I hope you never have to find me scary. We will get to an Instagram live here with Greg Cody. He's going to do another one in the next segment as we get on this Jodi, aggregate to talk about the thirty for thirty on Jose can Canseco a booger McFarland last night though booger McFarland said that as a defensive lineman, you do not go to the bathroom. You just sit on the bench and do your business and get up, and many of you may say to yourself. Okay, that's foul. But I sort of understand that. I also -ssume that most of you understand that that's usually number one we're talking about, aren't we were most of us are assuming it's number one. So let's play that sound. I of booger McFarland last night talking about how defensive lineman do their business because they were talking about Odell Beckham and the idea that you he does. Like to drink water, and it's funny to think about this, which is worse the needle or the feeling of water, the cramps or the feeling of water in your stomach. Like Beckham is sitting here saying he hates drinking water and he preferred needles in cramps to it. So here's booger McFarland telling you what happens when you have to go to the bathroom, Lisa says, don't worry about nothing, but a bathroom break. With back in my day, we would do that on the sideline. I didn't need to go to the back, but we just kind of sit out on the bench and you do your business and move on. That's what I did too much. Listen, listen, always Zepa. Why receivers wanted to go to bathroom as a defensive? Linemen we didn't go to the bathroom. You set them to bitch and you got up. Oh boy. It's real. You might much information. I want all of that. And I think booger McFarland saying what to real for you guys know you're not to real. Let me tell you who's the king of two real Larry. Izzo is the king of to real. And this is a story from Zach Thomas about Larry, oh, champion patriot, you might not know. I mean, he definitely got a game ball. We're going to number two on the sidelines during Atlanta game this year. I'll tell you that he did what. Yeah, man. He, you know, into a bucket draw thought there was a great story where usually some guys get away with, you know, having a peanut bottle, but he definitely number two in a bucket with a. You know, it's a pretty amazing thing to do. I've never heard that my life. You got a game before. That's very impressive. I got a lot of. Put it on the poll, please did you know Bella check gave Larry is or game ball for going number two. On the sideline, longtime listeners of the show will know that, but I'm not sure the new listeners know that that was an obsession of ours for a good amount of time. We cannot get Mang on fast enough by the way like I want to talk to this person. I'm reading some of these stories here. He bit dudes knows off what's what? Not someone who walks to buy a car. That would be that would be bad sales. I guess in that way, he'd be a great course Aleman if people walked in and that was the danger that would befall them there was a fight one time at a bar that he was at, and he was trying to break up the fight, but the police were confused and they thought that he was involved in the fight. So they may say them in the face and then they handcuffed him. And then when the police officer turned around, he broke the handcuffs. Get him now. All right. We need to talk to this person, but what we're gonna do next is we're gonna talk to this Jody ever. Again he is the guy who's making this Jose Canseco thirty for thirty. I saw an ad that I loved the other day, Stu guts for Dionne double play as a thirty for thirty. Have you seen the ad for this? No, it's a stretch limousine. It's about the day that the Sanders played a football game and baseball game on the same day and they showed you the helicopter, the jet and the way it starts just the way they advertised it. It's a stretch, limo pulling into what looks like an airplane hangar and it's Dion Sanders. Get out of it and comes to the Cameron just says, we'll finally it's long overdue because we all know how where's the thirty for thirty on Diop like we've all the nineties Cowboys. You can do about ten of them on everything happening there, but we've all been wondering where's the? Where's the thirty for thirty? And we gotta get that ad. Let's play it before. Jody Abigail aggregate comes on with us neck donlevatar anybody remember the late sixties singer, Oliver. He had a couple of hits including good morning, Starshine that guy, he is the brother of ACC Commissioner. John swallow offered stugatz you know, who didn't know you save the show. VC's libertas show with their Stu gods on ESPN radio. All right. So let's go ahead and play. This is Dion Sanders. I want to create the image for you because it's the thirty for thirty. All of us are going to wanna watch. I want you to a white stretch. Limo is pulling in to what looks like an airplane hangar. There were photographs of helicopters and jets around it and Dion. Sanders emerges from the white stretch, limo. He, he knots his tie a little better. He approaches a chair. That's right in front of a camera, swings it around and sits on it, and then talks to the camera. Very few people could ever pull this off. Go forward. To the American playing both sports within twenty four hours paying. The one thing that bothers me is people say, perhaps played Tim sports one day. As soon it up with two sports in one day. Let me take you a little history tool with Mr. prior. Let's do this. They will overdue. Though, saw folks. Watch that, right. So Jodie aggregate is with us here and he's got this other crazy story. It's juice. It's Jose Conceico. This thing is nuts. Like I, I've been waiting for this one since he appeared on the surreal world in purple Speedo owes Jose. Canseco has has gone. Totally crazy. I think it's the real life. That's a fine. I don't think that's right. It's the surreal life. You're both wrong for me. What did I say? You said, surreal world. He said, real life, whatever. Both of us regardless. Thank you Jodi for being on with us what you. I mean, I guess you have to spot me to get out of here. Gobi with Cody. Just get outta here, like I don't. I don't wanna do your fine games today. I don't wanna do them. I'm trying to do an interview. Good luck with the project, Jody, love you, man. All right. So Jodi, tell us about, tell us about what you got going on guys come. It's not that hard. I know just say I don't wanna say Joe in Brooklyn, so you kind of have to know that stuff. Not really. Okay. Put it on the poll. If you live in Brooklyn, do you have to know how to pronounce? Can Bucci go ahead? Yeah, put it on the poll. We're do. We did the new season of thirty for thirty podcasts out today. The first one is about Jose Canseco. I'm very excited for the for the the one about the on Sanders as well. And I feel like as you said Jose was always on that list of like, when's they're going to be thirty for thirty thing? And so this is our crack at a at telling the Jose Canseco story. And it's about this book. He wrote juiced in two thousand and five where he basically named names and told everyone that everyone was taking steroids. Is it just about that? Because consider everytime we've tried to talk to him. He asked for money. Yes, we're familiar with that. Yeah, you know, our thought was like, let's take a relatively small slice of this moment in his very crazy career. I mean, obviously we get into who he is and what makes them tick, which is basically an unanswerable question, but it really is about the making of this book. And then of course the book you know, blew everything up and they're and then their scenes where there's, you know, there were hearings in congress on Capitol Hill where they're talking about what's in the book. And so this kind of trash airport book that he wrote ended up being really true, had electricity and ended up kind of changing baseball forever. So our lenses kind of on that book, but it's kind of on the larger thing and I feel like you did you guys interview Dr this right? The you? You guys interviewed Ken Saco when that book came out back on? Yeah, we did. We were at a golf course. We did a live with him. He showed up in a limos wonderful. Like he just came on. It was amazing. It's one of the most surreal worlds. I've ever existed it. Yes. Well, that's the. Orbit that that's the universe around Jose Canseco and our reporter, Andrew MAMBO. Who did this story as we were reporting and we kinda got sucked into that universal little bit. We actually talk some of my favorite parts of the documentary are when we talked to the ghost writer who had like deal with Jose, Jody, it's crazy tell people. It's crazy. Every gang happening around Jose can say is crazy. Sell sell what it is you're doing here because it's yes. So look, Jose. Canseco basically tries to get back into baseball, two thousand five. He goes to an open tryout for the dodgers. Tommy Lasorda says, you're out of shape. You have no place in baseball. You're done. So then Jose can take turns around, he says, some very colorful things about Tommy Tommy Lasorda in our in our documentary, and they turns her and says, you know what? I'm gonna blow this whole thing up. I'm going to write this book. He goes any finds basically the trashes publisher in the world. Regan books makes a deal with them. They assign a ghost writer for him. The ghostwriters shows up at his house in Los Angeles at the time, and it's like, okay, Jose. Let's write this book together. Jose's Jose. I'm not really interested. Let's just like go out and party, and we're just gonna kinda have fun and go. Out, meet girls and hang around in limos. Finally, the ghost able to pin him down, get some sort of information out of them. They write this book. It's impossible to deal with Jose. He likes bailing on the press tour. It's just kind of a circus around him. But the book comes out and all of a sudden everything that's in it is true. So I mean that I think is the most interesting thing going on here, which is, what do you have? What do you do with a incredibly flawed messenger, whose message happens to be entirely true and important, which is all these players in baseball were taking steroids. And I mean, no, you know all the stuff that's in that book. It was true. What were the shocking things in that book? I mean him inject injecting Mark, Maguire, and clubhouse bathrooms. Like what? What are the details for people who don't remember this story? I mean, what really steroids was open secret? You probably know this better night with the steroids was his open secret in baseball for so long. But what Jose Canseco did with that book was take the step to really name names about other players, and then he did it in an incredible. Colorful way, like you said, he's describing, you know, pulling players down. I mean, he really was the like someone described as the typhoid Mary of steroids for baseball. I mean, he really was the one who was not just like taking steroids himself in and talking about it, but he was actively injecting plate Legger. He was a black Guttmacher is what he was basically. And so you know he named any name, you know he doesn't. He doesn't just name like random role players. Another random teens. He's talking about the biggest names in the game. One of my favorite tidbits from the from the piece that we learned by the way was that, you know, other players knew this about him and we're trying to get basically drugs from him. There's a story about when he would. He would like hit a double round. The base end up on second base and the second baseman for the other team would walk over and be like, hey, man, like you looking really good like, you know, what? Would you get your stuff like can you hook me out like during game and his name was Bret Boone. Hey, you said it. Yes, I did. I'm wondering, what are some of your other favorite tidbits again, if you wanna check this out it, you've gotta listen to ESPN's thirty for thirty podcast episode. One of juice is available on the ESPN app or apple podcast. When you say that was one of your favorite tidbits, give us some of the others. I may really like the stuff about actually the writing of the book. So here's my favorite kind of anecdote that we learned, which was the publisher who made this book. We books they were the ones who did Jenna Jameson book, which I think was called huddle. Make love like a porn star. They did OJ Simpson's book if I did it. I don't know if you remember that. Yep. And and so at the moment that they were getting ready to do juice, so they can take a book they were actually choosing between two projects. And one of them was a project call about a guy whose name was mister big and he was the guy with the biggest penis in the world here the thirteen inch penis. And so we talked to the editor and his job was literally like what is going to be our next book, the Jose Canseco thing or the huge pianists thing. And he's like, oh, let me let me look into this huge peanuts guy, and he goes and he doesn't researching talk to the guy and realize it's like how the story is not really there. And so Jose Canseco and juice. The book that ended up kind of bringing down baseball with a backup story to Mr. vague Jodi that is one of the greatest paragraphs ever spoken on this radio show. Thank you for sharing it with. Very welcome. We will talk to you next time. Thank you, sir. Yeah, thanks again. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel, I do remember being like this. Good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Ashra lingering odor make the switch and j. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is a chemical Dr. Lebatardshow. Do you mind cleaning that up and tearing up papers and stuff when we're not on the air stugatz I did it without really thinking it was far from the Mike, didn't think it pick it up as a kid. I used to make the sound of ripping paper. I used to delight my friends with that. No. So you can go like that. These live at our show with this two, God's on ESPN radio, Greg Cody is going to go to the bucket of death here in a second. But first we've got our poll questions at lebatardshow on Instagram and on Twitter at lebatardshow. If you want to partake in the magic, what do you have? There's two will Trey wingo, ever wrinkle. Eighty percent of the audience said no. Ken Cody tie in not as well as anybody sixty percent of the audience said, no. Sorry, Greg disbelievers was Greg cody's offered to go to a nude beach with Allison. Very nice of him. Fifty, eight percent of the audience said, no, I thought it was. You don't want her to be alone there right. Seriously. I'm with you. Gentlemen, how many patriots defensive lineman? Can you name? Your choices were zero one, two, three plus eighty. One percent of the audience at zero. They are top five in the league and pass rush. I'm pressure was they are with not a single thing you. I mean, just how. How. I don't understand. Jetson Ford. Somebody drippings into their gave him more money than anyone in the history of left tackle. He goes down boom, forty three points, thirty eight points. Does matter. Matter. I mean, the dolphins lose their left, tackle in the entire franchise falls into the sing. You're right. The quarterback gets hurt everybody, everything. God again, the Miami Dolphins low in three on Thursday nights under gays outscored by the score of ninety eight fourteen. Jack action, great, wrestling name or terrible wrestling name. Man, I disagree with the with the voting here. Sixty percent of the audience said terrible. No, no seem deeply that Jack loving, Jack, I know. But you're an old man. Would eight good cats, not Wimpy. Cats. Take out a police dog sixty percent of the audience said no. Would all the whimpy cats in the world beat up a single police. Dog sixty three percent of the audience said no. Did you know that the exotic animal black market was exploding for tortoises? Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, I was reading it as it is sixty four percent of the audience said no with the scariest man in professional wrestling, make good car salesman sixty two percent of the audience said yes. Those are the polls. Did you find him Allison? Did you talk to him? I saw the head I dead. He can't do it today. So hopefully he's going to do it later in the week. He's actually busy with someone so Ricky. So I don't know who that is. Wrestler, he also works there. Do you want him to. God. What city is that in a live remote from a car dealership. Strongarm people into. Right here him instead. No, we don't. Well. What you can get him on for minute. If you want to ask him to tell us a story about Mang. If you wanna do that. Let's let's go ahead and go to the bucket of death. This. So Greg, Cody of the Miami Herald has to pick in the bucket. This is the way that it works. Hold on a second, Greg glove. There is a bucket of death. It's got a lot of helmets in it, and he is going to pick one. And that will be his team on Sunday. If he wins, nothing happens to them. If he loses, he has to go to the grid of and discover some chains. Rummaging. The good rummage right there. Man. All right. The Seahawks are on the road at Detroit. They are three point underdog, and I think again, yes, you can. Then put it back and put it back. Yes, rummage jeopardy. Legal jeopardy is not illegal. It is getting lawyer. It's not illegal if the grit of debt hackers. All right. The Packers of the biggest underdog they've ever been under Aaron Rodgers. The Rams Aaron Rodgers is never been such a such an underdog in a game eight and a half and growing because going out to the Rams the craziest team in the sport. So I had the most balanced Rogers. I mean, you're fine. Just had to beat the line or after winnow, right? You have to win the game. We do this every week. Sorry, know you're deteriorating man, like your father on air. I didn't think was possible is consistently getting worse at this. It's just he has run McGill for the second straight week about animal theft. Happen. I think you're getting better. It really depends on your perspective if you guys getting worse or better at the beginning of the end that surgery mine, you know, when the book is close Ricky steamboat there. Okay. Data here registered votes there. Fair. I actually forget Santana you got the wrong guy. Such a giant.

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More eighths is half an inch to got well, listen, he has an as five ten in eighth and Russell at five ten and five eight. So I go four eighths there. Now, I'm not a math major. But that's just the way I did it. But anyway, Russell Wilson was three pounds a lighter than Kyle Murray. And here's the big news. Kyle Mary big hands. Big big hair Azad mean, I don't know. A lot of what you said is surprising because he doesn't care. I thought Russell Wilson was way heavier than Kyla Murray. The way that he carries his weight is very interesting. Have you seen the most recent picture of Russell Wilson? No. I don't think he's in a sneaker store or something with CR any looks fat. Sierra the fine. He looks at the R N in the last when you say it with a Hispanic. We're on a fight set in. I williams. I just always engine. Russell Wilson wearing flak jacket. You guys haven't seen this picture. It looks like Russell Wilson is fat. Because the the only reason I've seen the pictures because people have sent it to me saying, Dan, this looks like you and you never want your quarterback. He's just got a beard, and he looks like he's wearing a blouse shirt. Well, I googled Russell Wilson fat while I didn't see that photo. I did notice an article from two thousand seventeen that says Russell Wilson is trying new forty eight hundred calorie diet having nine meals a day. Wow. He says that he dropped his body fat by six percent with this nine meal a day, forty eight hundred calorie diet and his life expectancy like six years a lot. I read an Esquire article that said every extra pint of beer is taking fifteen minutes off your life through bad the entire time. I was reading it. I was like what's the extra? Pint is it the third is it the first. I have no idea. But that's a fascinating question. I'm a little concerned now because I am reading the Cuyler Murray's hand size is nine and a quarter inch. Russell Wilson's was ten and a quarter inch. I thought you said they were electric measurements and sizes nine and a half. I've got nine and a half. Where'd you get nine hundred quarter? I got it from Chuck nine and a quarter hand size. I've got it from Chuck that it's nine and a half. I'm looking I take nine and a half. I owe money I've got nine and four eight. I owe a lot of money much for reading the internet nine and a half dollars. I want you to the half dollars. I want you guys to Baker Mayfield. By the way, Chuck's at me. You got bigger is nine and a half the nine and a quarter nine and a half nine in the question weights. True true. True. Got it. Right. No, you don't get your money. Money. He got it right with aces. Also the same as one fourth. It is. You know, Mike how Stu gods is this. He comes in measurement day points of finger at me has no accurate information. None. Me. He wants he wants to talk about measurements. Kyla murray? If he succeeds in the NFL will be unlike anyone to ever succeed at that position in the NFL. He is tiny. Yeah. We keep moving the bar though. Because Russell Wilson was on like anybody. Then bigger Mayfield was unlike anybody now kind of Murray, but certainly unlike anybody but two inches shorter than Baker Mayfield. Yeah. Yeah. He looks really small when he's playing. Well, that's what I'm saying. He looks you watch him run around back there. They break the huddle on it's like ten football players in child. He looks like a kid. That's why I'm surprised by the way because it doesn't look like he has that sort of weight distribution. Must've packed on some pounds before the the combine would be my best guess, but listen he's got the same size like all the same measurable as as Russell Wilson. That's it. Right. All you need to know. You don't worry about Baker Mayfield. I know. But Russell Wilson was not drafted very high specifically because of those measurements. And now we've had to change literally changed the rules of the sport to protect guys like this and make them come over from baseball to football and be able to play at that size. What was what was Fran tarkenton as he was a Minnesota Viking. Thank you, Mike. I appreciate their to win one. Okay. Wow. Look at that doesn't have much information. But he's got a whole file of those right there. Couldn't couldn't win. The big one is. Are. It's all I got on them. God's will you please stop? Will you please stop being Stu gods for a second? Because you've come in, and you pooped all over the segment measurement day. You haven't gotten anything. Right. Can you just slow down on the stugatz? Just two little. Yes. So I could get the show off the ground. You know, what it was an impressive athletic achievement. Baker Mayfield actually measured taller at the combine. Then he didn't the senior bowl. So we got the film broke it down and challenge himself to be better any group. Fran tarkenton was six feet tall. He was it. Looks like two hundred pounds here known as the scrambler. Or tarp? As you prefer. I like the scrambler really. Shameful emission? I thought his name was Frank tarkenton till I was about twenty eight years old. I put on the poll. Guillermo, did you think? Fran Tarkenton's name was Frank. At lebatardshow. What happened? Why did you Lord Chris Cody into your your broad guy? He doesn't even know what happened. If it's a Frank two, totally different guy. There's a lot of neuroscience at just figured that out for the first time, I'm not going I'm going to pronounce this a certain way. But how do you think you spell his last name? Go ahead, and cer k. Mike. How do you think you spell it? Because I want to see if you've been mispronouncing his last name your entire life to. Okay. So I think his name is Fran Torkington. Go ahead and spell it. But I don't think there's an I g. But I'm pronouncing it. Jimmy pronouncing, both as I and is labouring marking. Usually that something that only happens to us with Janas Tacoma where we spelled and pronounced both names wrong. L? Let me tell you something. Frank tarkenton would've won Super Bowl. Put that on the GM seems to agree with it would Frank tarkenton have clearly won the Super Bowl for the Vikings. That's something. My dad would say your your dad would say like, I mean, I don't know. What's the bigger mistake? Put this on the poll calling Oscar Robertson. Oscar Robinson the way that's Stu gods. Does calling Fran Torkington Frank Frank Tarquin ton. I see where collar Murray puts all this hides all this weight. Dude got James Harrison five caboose. She's got the whole baseball bond a whole undercarriage the whole undercarriages thick with to seize. There's nothing small about your business. Your passion, your hours your reputation. It's all cued your partnerships even bigger with Dell. Small business technology advisers. You'll get the tech. Advice and one on one partnership to help your business grow because with reliable Dell PC's with Intel core processors, you can focus on what matters most getting business done. Call eight seven seven by Dell to speak with an advisor today. That's eight seven seven by Dell. Donlevatar? Oscar Robinson had forty one triple doubles back at sixty one sixty to forty once do God's it's Robertson, but they go. Okay. But these live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio. Guillermo, put it on the poll, please. Can you pass up? A steak fried you pass up a steak fry. There was a raging argument going on during the break. We will get back to the scouting combine. And God's getting all the measurements wrong in the second. This is Mel kiper. I scouting combine according to Adam Schefter mall. Capper has never been allowed in the building with the real media. The because he's carved out an entire industry that very few people. It's like him in Florida. There've been very few who have created an entire industry out of a thing. That's not journalism. That's just measuring Deutz. Very few people have been able to create that Kuyper has. But before we get to that. There was a huge argument involving ROY was saying you can't have a wedge wedges or no good. They have too much potato ROY was complaining. So what is the best cut of fried? Did you guys come to a consensus or determination of of some sort because it's clearly the waffle fries, isn't it? No. This is an argument. Just yet. We're having a polite discourse. Okay. Most people I think if there's anything close to a consensus like your traditional normal cut, fry the one that you would see it. I don't know. We'll McDonald's or something like that. We also all agree that we like in a wreck fry. However, there is a name for what is conventionally thought of as the perfect McDonald's fry, and that's a loom stirred. This was part of a nineteen nineties marketing campaign where they try to make loom sir part of the American lexicon. Which was the long fry that would have a little flop to it. So you would have a little bit of crunch, but it would sort of melt in your mouth the steak fries. Overrated, you go regional you. Go curly. You've been go wedge you go crinkled yet. Let's stay fry Latin way too much potato and I love a good steak fry especially a little bit well done nice surface area. I like steak fries my second favorite front. Yeah. Please. Don't take offense at you are such a pig headed American the steak fry. Perfectly with fish. You could put a little malt vinegar under steak fry yet. A little catch up on the side to get the sweet and the tart it's perfect for you that with any fri- the curly fry is the sneaky winner here. I think gear do you have an opinion of one of any sort the the one that you can dip in baby food. I don't do that with fries, Dan. That's stupid. I like regular fries. Botha? Oh, curly fries. Are good. I like season fries. Even though we're not talking about flavor fries but a season fries. Good fry and a season. Curly fries. A good fry and the fry sometimes it didn't actually melt that they're like molded together. And it's like a thick fry not too much girth on a Friday. You don't wanna fat fry? But if you have to fries at are stuck together that are season. It's like a bonus fry what Billy does that. He's inspired me to start doing it again as he puts fries on on his Sammy's. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I call sandwiches. You have to do that. Sometimes you even do it with Lay's potato chips up IVA potato chips on a tuna sandwich. It is because. Because it's just it's a dead fish literally in your mouth, you run some sort of crunch. I started putting velveeta MAC and cheese on my burger instead of cheese cheese. Yeah. I make it a cheeseburger with velveeta MAC and cheese. Wow. Wow. Good idea. I'll put it on the poll plays a person who refers to sandwiches as Sammy's jackass or irredeemable jackass. Thank you. I'm not gonna vote on that will really you're gonna sit it out a big cut. Boycott from all four eight silver here, we agree that you feel like you've won the lottery when you go to Burger King and they accidentally put an onion ringing your that on purpose. They do because I'd like, oh, I should have gotten the onion rings. So then what I do is. I get both small thri. Yes. One fry in the onion rings, there's always one onion ring in. Yeah. Right. They hope the tempt you, right? If you're going to the drive through like, hey, you try the onion rings. Oh, look nice little onion ring and your little surprise. And they hope you come back around for a little order of onion rows. That's why they do it. Nothing better. What's your favorite unconventional sauce Dipa fry into because I obviously we know that ketchup is king when it comes to dipping fries. Now. I don't agree with it. But personally, if I go to McDonalds, I like to sink a few sweet and sour sauces because I actually like the taste of the McDonald's probably paired with the sweet and sour there. This is no surprise. But I sometimes go straight male. Oh god. Really? You just suck it out a packet. So that too, but the fry get the fries sometimes too. Doesn't have a name in Amsterdam. Isn't that? A Dutch delicacy should be. I know in Europe. That's the preferred condiment for fries mayonnaise. How do you feel about? Honey, mustard and barbecue sauce as. Baby Ray's barbecue sauce. I prefer that over ketchup. We honest with you. We're just talking. We're just talking during notes. Chick-fil-a sauces. Might be the best songs. You wanna kick something up next level? I don't know what's available at your local grocery mart. Okay. But you put Goya's south zone complex on your French fries next level sewn late. This is galaxy brain types out that is if you're not familiar with Spanish that is a complete sauce the two best sauces in fast food Polynesian from chick Chick-fil-A and garlic salon show from traffic naturally you get the waffle. With you pair it with Polynesian sauce from Chick-fil-A? I'm all in with those two sauces beat me. How is it possible? That Mel kiper has never been to a scouting. Combine before apparently wasn't allowed in the building. I don't know if there was some sort of grudge if you set the wrong thing, but this is the first time he's been allowed in the building. According to manage all my God, he has a basement where he has seventy TV's, and he sees every inch of that. Combine he's never physically been there. But he sees things. Trust me. What do you wanna talk to about this Schefter for reporting that this was Kuypers? I combine or Kuyper for being I combine I think hyper for being. It was not sure Mel kiper wants to talk to me. Certainly not today. No luck going on well mentioning the lot going on here in Miami this season. Okay. This has been the farewell tour Draymond green once famously said to Paul Pierce through trash talk. They don't love you like Kobe. You're not Kobe. But yesterday after the game he was saying how amazing it is to see that. Dwayne Wade is still playing well at this age that he's not embarrassing himself. He's not out there like Dirk Nowitzki running around. Everybody wants him to retire. Doc Rivers is stopping games to get him to retire. Adam silver's ripping him during the all star game. It's not it is I did not think Dwayne Wade's game would age. Well, because I thought that kamikaze style like with Russell Westbrook's. That's when it loses its athleticism you've seen. Russell Westbrook is a horrific three point shooter by volume and that went as he as he physically deteriorates because he can't have his prime forever. I don't think that the Russell Westbrook game is going to age very well. But Wade is still out there not embarrassing himself and this entire Miami Heat season. Even though they're six games under five hundred is about getting Dwayne his moments filling that arena with people celebrating and saying goodbye to Dwayne Wade on of the five best shooting guards ever three best one of the three best easily easily easily one of the five best in my mind. Easily one of the three best. But there's a Lakers fans will argue I don't know Jerry West and Koby Bryant he had that moment last night. I mean, I don't know if they can get any better for twain, wait this season. In his final season. That was a great to be that team at home in front of his fans and his city with that ridiculously bad shot. I mean that was that was a moment that was a moment. But you're right for most of the game. He was great right up until about last shot. And then he was but it went in. I mean, he was pretty great at the end to God's. He was that was the last shot. He was great, man. Wade has been weighed has been making shots like that the entire time. Ridiculous shots that shouldn't go in. There's probably an element of luck there. But he had the poise although Billy calls it panic to top of the key. It was a terrible possession. The Miami Heat are limited and constipated offensively. And at the end of games when things get tight and Golden State had come back from down twenty and Igwe dollars in the game. And they're just knocking the ball away from everybody DEA plump theon waiters is running around out there thinking of thinking about what he could get at the chocolate fountain at golden corral after the game. And he passes it off to Duane. Wade who bottles the ball. And look there were two defenders on it seemed I don't know how this happened. Mike can someone explain this to me the Miami Heat had the basketball and every time someone got the basketball? They were double teams. So I'm pretty sure there were ten warriors on the court. We're at the end we're actually showing if you're watching on ESPN news or showing the possession over and over again. Yeah. There two defenders going out waiters waiters gets a pass. And there were two other defenders on weight who's just like five feet away from Dion waiters. How did they have eight people on the Corning sure I saw monta Ellis running around out there. I was confused like I just wave upon wave of warriors it with me. I got time to bleed. Tim Hardaway ran out on the court Butuan free. Tim Kirk is gonna join us here. Next people always like that segment. Bill Simmons going to be eleven o'clock to tell us where Wade ranked all-time shooting guards. He wrote the book on basketball. No, literally, you wrote the book on basketball, casper people and sees loss again last night. Rounding the Celtics drowning a little bit donlevatar limited faked Tim Kirk, and what are the royals have to do to make the playoffs to gods. And the royals are really good. DCC's live at our show with stugatz on ESPN radio. So we've got some baseball questions for Tim coaching, and you can call in and just ask him whatever you like because we just generally miss him. And we want to pick up with him during the offseason or spring train training or whatever it is. We can. So if you wanna talk to Tim Kirch in seventy six four five six four eight three seven is the telephone number. I guess I'll start here with the Bryce Harper thing. How much does everyone in that sport hate Scott Boris, and he's going to win again in the end of this. I think Scott Boris is going to win again. And this is the most perplexing process. I think I've been through in a long time. I don't need any sympathy. Damn. But my goal is to see all thirty teams in spring training. And I'm not going to make it this year because I've been with the Phillies are way too many days. Just in case Bryce Harper goes there, we've got people all over the place. Just in case, I think this is the bottom line. I think the Phillies have the biggest offer out there. But I'm not sure I know the dodgers and the giants are interested. But we're not it's not clear if they're interested for five years or for ten years. That's the tricky part. But and I don't know when this is gonna get done either. But we're at like one hundred twenty days, and we don't know a whole lot more now as far as definitive backs go that we knew almost four months ago, Tim how do we arrive at this place where month? Before the season. One of the game's biggest stars has yet to be signed. It's crazy. It it's crazy, and it's confusing. Of course, there's been a change in the free agent process. And everyone needs to understand that we also have an agent who's the best agent of all time, basically who's gonna wanna break a record for his client to get the most money that anyone has ever got. We've got Bryce Harper whose torn I believe between playing Philadelphia a little ballpark in the NFL es that he could really do some damage. I think I think he would rather go to LA. But I think he wants to go where the most money is. And every day the story changes, and it's really hard to keep up when there are. So few facts available. You don't know what to think, you don't know anything, and you're stuck with the Phillies all spring training. Yes. I believe everything I hear, Dan. And I don't believe anything that I hear that's how this has gone for three and a half months. Yes. I know the Phillies backwards informer. But now of only here moly here in case Bryce Harper signs that he might not find your. I don't know. I still think the Phillies are the leader. But again in the absence of facts, I'm not sure of anything to. I mean, you might know the answer to this or you might not. But what's the difference in state tax because the Phillies might already have a better offer to Bryce Harper, then he'd get with LA? Yeah, I'm not. I'm no expert on state tax in the met your how that could be so relevant. And yet, maybe it is anything is on the believe everything you believe nothing. You're on guard. I've been into look for four months. What's happening here? It seems crazy. It's crazy. It really is. And we figured we do the free agent process at changed dot last year. I didn't think it would change though for two guys, you know, twenty six twenty seven years old in the prime of their career. But it is changed for Machado at Harper. But in the end Machado got the money, and I think in the end Harper's going to get the money. It's just gonna take a whole lot longer to get to that point. I mean TIMMY to be accurate. He stuck in clear right now. Well. Who wants to be stopped him? As stock in Clearwater. Everyone is stuck in Clearwater waiting for Bryce Harper to sign with San Francisco. The weather's great here and I've been spring training. So I can't don't want any sympathy up doing great. I would just like to be able to see the Orioles and the twins and the pirates the Tigers. And all these teams I haven't seen yet. Because I spend too many days in Clearwater, Pennsylvania has a flat tax system meeting. Everyone pays the same amount of three point zero seven percent. But Tim, if you're the Phillies, don't you have to pull your at some point you have to say, hey, listen Boris, C, O B or else we're taking the offer away you have to Philadelphia's just waiting around for once. I do you have to do. Because then at some point you have to take the at the pull that offer off the table. Okay. And go back to the drawing board with Bryce art. Yeah. I just asked you. So just to get this straight. This is what it is. I just want to get this straight. You say you have to do it. And I'm like, why do you have to do it? And then you're like you have to to make a decision you tell them twenty four hours Philadelphia or pulling the offer that's at twenty four hours force the man to make a decision on you can use that money for something else that you can go after Dallas kaikal if you wanted to giving it to brace Jimmy a great. This is so confusing for the from the Phillies, and they need this guy. And they don't wanna put an ultimatum on it. But I will tell you this about Phillies. They had a limit on Manny Machado. And I was told they were not going ten years for three hundred million. So when he went there, they said we're out I think there are similar limits. I don't know what those limits are. But I think there are similar limits on Bryce Harper's contract to because this isn't just the owner. This is a sabermetrics oriented organization saying maybe ten years doesn't make a whole lot of sense that we're not going to overpay. If we're the only team at ten years that's unclear to by the way. So yes, the Phillies aren't just spending stupid money as they said they have threshold, and it doesn't appear at the moment that they're going to go over that does. Greg Williams looked like you're divorced on who brings a call girl to thanksgiving. The first time I've left it two and a half weeks. As you're stuck in Clearwater. Wait. I have to address this coaching you've done too much in journalism you've done too much for ESPN you've done too much for baseball. You shouldn't be sitting in a parking lot waiting to see months during by whether Bryce Harper is gonna show up or not you're above. This. Can't we send an intern or something? No, I'm an analyst at a senior writer at ESPN this spring. I've been more of a reporter than I've been in quite some time. So this is a big story. I'm a good teammate. I'm gonna do whatever we need to do here. But this is the saddest. I've heard you situa chasing that steroid adult Clements. Throw a parking lot. Right. I did that more than one believe that was not fun does. Theo Epstein looked like the guy who leaves early from the neighborhood house party on a Friday night because Liverpool is on at three thirty AM tomorrow. Does Mike gravel look like he takes women to his beer league softball game on the first day. Does Andrew lucked looked like he puts the milk in a bowl before the cereal. This less miles. Look like someone who says do me a flavor. Does Joey Bosa looked like the pirate on a rumble. Does Brad Stevens looks like he thinks the catch up is do spicy. Donlevatar moustache ios are highly flammable when stored in large quantities and Ken spontaneous combust. Stugatz. Spontaneous league. No spontaneous lay these live at our show with as to God's only SPN radio. Stan Van Gundy will be here tomorrow. Did anyone hear him last night with Jeff Van Gundy on the broadcast was it any good? I didn't hear any of it. Stan doesn't know if it was any good because he gets precious little feedback about anything that he does around here. I watched the first quarter. It was great chemistry. Obviously was awesome. They were fantastic like electric. It's two brothers going back and forth at each other. They're picking at each other. It was fun. I totally agree. I watched the first like they're really good together. S? Maybe it's because I like them, but they are really good. You wanna play a little game from last night. All right. So I'm going to play a sound clip from last night's broadcast. And i'll. It imparts, and you have to guess what comes next. Okay. Everybody clear on the rules. Here we go, obviously, Jeff and STAN there's been a lot of discussions speculation about Luke's coaching future. What do you think of the job that he's done with LA? All right guys, both going to annoy us by defending Luke Walton in a way, that's unreasonable and coach protect they're going to try to out defend Luke Walton. Let's see. Well. Well, let's see because remember there's two of them. So Jeff's position is be pro coach. And then stands position is going to be there. Even be more pro coping. That's a prediction. I'm gonna try and out pro coach each other. Here we go I Jeff well, first of all that's utter nonsense. If you wanna make a coaching change just say, we're going to make a coaching change. But there's no reason to make a coaching change. He's done an outstanding job. I think they're well organized. I think they run good stuff. That's just a change to make a change. All right. So stand defendant more than that. I know I totally agree with you, Jeff is how this next on start. It's so interesting that anybody who coaches LeBron gets denied credit for coaching like, yeah, they have a great player, but Phil Jackson got credit as a coach. And he had Michael, Jordan, and Scottie Pippen, and then and Poggi, but whoever is had LeBron has never gotten in my opinion, the credit that they deserve for their coaching jobs economists out because you you took this out of the equation often. Do it withstand not only an endorsement of a coach, but a back handed swipe at the media for creating this culture toxic to coach Phil Jackson. Do you have more sound from STAN, and Jeff Gundy, or is that all we have two good though. It was okay shocking from them that wasn't a good point. I didn't think so I thought maybe we can isolate some sound that was good not just them defending a coach which was as we noticed predictable. Billy what's going on with your consent, go negotiations for those of you do not know Billy has he's recruited the highest levels of ESPN management and fund giving to. To to give money to fund this quest with Jose Canseco to chase aliens and Bigfoot where are we with that? Then you already talk to consecutive. Did you personally talk to Consec? Oh, this is gone. A lot further than I thought it was going to go, and yeah, Jose Canseco was on the phone. I wasn't in this meeting. This was with the TV people, and the people that will be in charge with the budget. And they thought they were calling Jose's representation and Jose can sake it was on the phone, and it seems like we may have a place on this bus. But again, this is only gonna work if we got the TV rights, which we may or may not be bidding against ourselves on that's unclear by Scott Boras handling. Right. Been told me rights to a bus excursion with OJ can Cinco go locate aliens and Bigfoot is it goes as well. It's ESPN news. Netflix and that bus and showing up Amazon as best those trying to get in the bidding, there's the legitimate budget. Like, I heard numbers and was kind of like scared that this much money might go towards this excursion charming that you would be scared. Well, apparently, this is a multiday thing like in the middle of the desert. This isn't just like, hey, we're going to go drive to this big foot habitat. It's like we're staying with Jose can take for a couple of days, which by the way has people like close to me worried for my safety to which I say like, well, you know, if I died, it'll be a funny way to die. And they're like, no, no because you'll be dead, which I don't have a good answer for because I might be well, what do you have killing you big foot the aliens or Conceico, there's a number of thing. I mean, everything which can say. For Conceico in a big foot alien costume. What are you? Okay. Hold on a second. So what what what sort of information? Did you get from the TV people on how these negotiations went? And where we are in terms of actually securing exclusive TV rights to the bus to go. See bigfoot? I don't wanna give away too much. But it seems like we might be on the bus. And it seems like we have a legitimate shot at making it happen. But the ball is going to be an Jose's court. So who knows as it seem also that you're going to be the only one on the bus? No, no, no, no, no. That's what I heard. So I was troubled because I saw a tweet from Jose saying, hey seats are going fast like two weeks after he sent out the original one which would make thanks seats or not going fast because there's only five seats. So why would you be telling people that come get seat? But a minute it's a bus of five people all yet and RV five people, go and Jose. And I guess his agents say it might be Ozzy. It sounds like a horror movie. I mean, we'll see what happens it. It's it's it's going to be something happens days, a desert with good Saco, paying you. It's going happen. Gonna wake up mix. Totally. I think I feel like what's going to happen is the movie very bad things. I think that that's not gonna happen with Conceico. And Billy next thing. You know, they're gonna be parts and body parts and lug it. Well, that's the thing that I think's going to happen. See like, I think you know, what if I die. It'll be in the middle of the desert getting killed by a big foot or whatever. But it's really probably going to be me and a motel like in a bat to all my organs are gone. Can say driving off grinning maniacally in his RV with a Beth full of your organs. We'll see. We will into to find out where we will allegedly see Mike you want to take a guess in two thousand and three the only person in the world that's got more buzzer-beaters than Dwayne Wade in the NBA since two thousand and three guesses around the room. You have twenty five seconds around the room guesses. Carmelo Anthony to good guess, it is not correct. But it's a good guess who three. Yes. Since two thousand and three buzzer beater, Damian Lillard, LeBron James. Yeah. Lebron? Nope. Nope. Dwayne wade. Nope. Since twain way to two thousand three there's only one guy who's got more than Wade Bill. You can get out of here for two minutes. That's Joe Johnson.

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EP14  Jeff Frye Talks Professional Baseball, Hitting Twitter, and Confidence

The Morning Brushback with Dan Blewett

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EP14 Jeff Frye Talks Professional Baseball, Hitting Twitter, and Confidence

"Hello this is Monday morning. Brushback PODCASTS I'm your co host named Blewett. I'm joined here by my compatriot Bobby Stevens Robert Howse Chicago. How you doing man gotTa Haircut yesterday. So don't tell anybody that's a legal. You'RE GONNA be strong up in the town of quarter the town square. We still have town quarter thing or no. You'll be drawn and quartered. That's what I was thinking of having haircut. So if you're just tuning tuning in today Our Guest Jeff. Frye were would just waiting a call in. So we're going to get started here and Bobby we need to talk about. The current situation is baseball going to come back so they've been talking about this zone stuff. Obviously everyone's super bored at home. We'd love to see sportsman. Playing Sports Games and sports women playing sports games Do you think this Arizona things happen. No Shah alligators any shot. That that this Arizona thing happens I can't see just creating a bubble for baseball players. I think it's I think the further we get into this the more. They're they're just look at the realistic possibility plane without fans Would you tweet out? Taiwanese baseball game the other day. Yeah and I just didn't care about that like even the slightest amount I'm like that's like me watching raisin bran like just like looking at a drbble reason if you have fruit in that raising brands might be worth now. Damn I can't hear you Dan. You're just I'll just talk to myself at this point but I don't think there's any way that we play baseball in a confined space in spring training. I don't think it makes sense. Man Nearing Yeah. I'm GonNa keep going my thought though. I don't think it makes any sense for these for us to do it. That way Us and I have no interest in financial interests in it but I think empty it makes more sense than just playing empty stadiums in the boost. A little bit of the local economy. Especially if you're talking like a like Chicago's Wrigley Wrigley Field around me. Feel that'll be packed. Even if those people can't go to the Games so I just play them in their normal cities and and let the guys have that most of these guys have homes there. It's not GonNa be as big just nightmare. Why agree and I also just? Don't I read an article by Doug Glanville last night which I thought was it was a really well written article? You just talk about the importance of fans and how they impacted his his life and There to pick him up when he had a tough time when his father was Was Sick in hospital and dying actually and I just can't imagine the lackluster. Just how much the game would change from an emotional standpoint as a ball player like you're out there at the highest level every pitch counts every bad accounts and there's not a single person a stands like you you drive onto the gap you played to like you put your team up a run in a and there's like nothing just dead cemetery silence. It'd be fun right. How does that work? It's crazy? Hit a big hit a big home run and get absolutely nothing around thing like literally like you're back playing not even t-ball 'cause a lot of parents come out it'd be like some other obscure like middle range bad high school baseball in the middle of like you travel to some other bumbled highschool and there's just like no one there yet. We've all played in front of no crowds so that I don't think there's any it'd be new for anybody in the big leagues to play in front of nobody it might Might kill some of that Adrenaline Rush. But if the checks cashing. I don't think anybody's GonNa care all that much. It's GONNA be tough. I think that'd be hard just mentally and physically employers. I feel it'd be hard to get your get yourself going in the same way. Yeah maybe but I think some of these guys especially the the guys that are younger that have don't have ten years in the big leagues and don't have the that many opening days in that many They don't have money sitting in the bank. Like some of these other guys in a set career those guys. I think they'll be playing just as hard. I think it'll be just as exciting For most the players if there if it's not that I'm I'm available to to fill in at any at any point to play these games. You can be at scab. That's fine. Nobody I'm not who's GonNa who's GonNa call me out on it. If I end up getting a few SCAB games over comiskey on the south side it's the will announce. Let's just go with that from here on out. This is the morning brushback with Dan. Lewis and bobby the SCAB that I think. I think it sums you up your some alert drinking subsitute major league playing. You're just like a pirate. You're like a modern day. Pirate I should I mean I I can. I can handle the heat. Apps. Camp Yobs can't be Maher. Let's just be honest. How many WHO's the? Who's the most famous guy from ninety? Four that crossed For the in the MLB when they had. What did you just say? Oh who's the most famous guy? They cross the picket line in ninety four. Would anyone know that answer in the world when he knows that answer? I know an answer to that question. I know that question. I'm trying desperately not connect my air pods because I forgot to do that. And it's just like not working speaking of which I got an air body today. Bobby I got a new left one because my left one was speaker is blonde and I got one that literally the next the next afternoon they ship it out so good job apple apple for the win here at Corona virus locked down a just just pumped the radiation right into the side of your brand. That's what I'm going for. Have you heard of these bone conductive headphones? Have you heard of these before now but it sounds dangerous. So bone conductive headphones. They posted this little thing. Right on the front of your your lobes or just the front of your ear and actually like plays in the world not in your ear so nothing goes in your ear but it sits right in front and then this thing goes wraps behind your ear and vibrates against your mic bones. That are in your ears back there. Obviously you're you're you'll We hear sounds and whatnot by like the what is it the molly as the INCAS and the state does with rebounds. I think you're middle secure. Your way are way past. I yeah But anyway so these bone conductive things because there's a new hearing aid technology that my dad didn't WANNA get they put like a screw into your brain a little wire than taps directly incident. I do not know much for this. Technology taps kind directly endure that like bone conductive system. Apparently it's a real thing But anyway so these bone conducted headphones are are for like. I don't know I think they're more for like running. But you can basically you have more situational awareness because it's not in your ear plugging your ear hole out there and just being your own little personal speaker. It's essentially we've progressed from having the boombox you're running around data with your ghetto. Blaster right Is Essentially that? But it's a tiny like sensible form but reviews during radiation into your brain like. I'm even these that I'm wearing right now with court obvious. We wave our guests. This is like a perfect time for you to spout some nonsensical backed by just unfactual checks conspiracy theory stop. This is like your time to shine. I think you need to just run with it. Give us one of your nonsense conspiracy. There's too many. There's so many my most recent one reading is the is. The Lady Gaga is like a satanist and she's like also that Lady Gaga is also. Amy Wine House like they're one in the same person just controlled by the aluminum. And you have what you level belief in this theory. I don't know her if you watch any of her music videos. She's getting she's. She has a lot of imagery. That's like disturbing and now she's she's she's connected to the Marina Abramovich if you look this woman up this woman's like A. I think she's Serbian. She's she's like the Queen of these messed up. She makes crazy art depicting the devil and killing kids and all kinds of stuff like that. It's a I mean I'm getting a little deep deep for baseball against his deep. This is just why I think people need to get to know who they're listening to I. People need to get off the ship if they realize that. Wow this is. This is the guy that I've been listening to all the time. This is obvious even skies actually extremely unstable or maybe. I shouldn't be here unstable this I am. I'm just a beacon of stability. Bobby did Noah's Ark Happen. I don't aliens. Were were there aliens on the Ark. There's aliens hunters aliens hundred percent. You might be alien for all I know. There's there's absolutely alien the odds that are there are no aliens in on earth or in this. What are the odds? Let me know. What are the odds? Oh it's it's over. Fifty percent that has over fifty percent east any. Where do you get these numbers? It's easily Alex Jones Institute Providing Musoma Alec Shows Little. He's I like Al Vegas Lines. His I listened to his lawyers live streaming shows just to like humor you and be in the conspiracy theory for a minute. It was just rambling. Just it was ill psychotic. You can't jump into Alex Jones. That's like it's like your first time skiing jumping on look on Everest and it was like twelve. Am and he was just like ranting. Angry I'm like what what is in this man's blood right now. I'd love to know what cocktail failure in alien. But he's an alien alien blood. It was he civilize on his arm is one just rambling so like lady. Gaga stuff is at like if you look up M. K. Ultra ultra like a mind control. You know they they brainwash these people that from a young age and they kinda groom him to be whatever they need him to be in her case obviously a performer and she gives out these her songs mirror like some message and our imagery in her music videos images those images nearer allow. Don't think I don't think I could care about this story any any less than I you. I don't think it's possible I'm trying to like I'm asking myself. Could I care about the story any less than I do at the Sunnis the museum? GimMe a topic. I got you. There's aliens there's a hundred percent aliens in my mind always is it just jumped from fifty percent to one hundred percent for someone normies but one hundred percent for us in the in the in the. I'm walking around looking for Dennis. Rodman are you kidding me? This is not a real person in tennis. Rodman data great. That is a great soundbite. That's not an alien. Thank you for that. That's not I mean if there was ever any person it's was for sure Dennis Rodman like I'll give you the it's Ozzy Osbourne or is it like are these. These are not people the Queen Queen Elizabeth. How does he get lumped in there? She's she's like the que- she's the head of this whole thing's reptilian things. She's She's Evil Queen. Elizabeth is evil. Well welcome back everyone. If you're just tuning into the morning brushback Our Guest Jeff. Frye is hopefully going to call and soon we Aren't really sure the status but we're rambling along and literally were rambling along. I mean we are going into the depths of Bobby's mind which is clouded by like tumbleweeds cobwebs and like I- lemurs like leaping from branch debris I can't we can't we can't we. Can't have these some of these conversations at all over the place would you say it's an accurate representation of your mind. A tree scraggly crooked branch tree with lemurs. Your ideas are lemurs leaping from one to the next no more accurate is like a like a Nineteen Second Nineteen Fifties Western movie on the on the on the sheriff. And there's just a bunch of weird shit happening around me. That's that would be an accurate description but spent most of the time in the saloon. So let's let's go back to Foreign Baseball The so obviously the level of play in like the Chinese personal meanwhile he's very high There was a a brushback young got hit by pitch the other day and benches cleared. That was the clip that I put on my youtube or twitter But it's just it's so weird that we're without sports in general I mean and I think the one thing that's really holding this thing up and I I was reading up a bunch about a recently as is will the players except lower salaries. If there's no fans in the stands because that seems to be part of the deal to make it financially viable that hey forty percent of a roughly forty percent of the team's revenue comes from ticket sales so without all that. How can you make twenty six million dollars year? You know hundred thousand dollars a pitch. If you're in a one these premier starting pitchers and I guess the question is that it's untenable that you probably can't so I just don't know if they're gonNA bend. They said you know players are just like no one except less than us and the other question is say they do this thing in Arizona and they have this little bio dome and are they going to be a play. Every day are there enough. Ballparks are is I mean. Are THEY GONNA televise every game every day. Or if Naza can be like six games a day are they GONNA be broadcasting at noon on Wednesday is it having a like a Gonna. Watch the yeah. No one's going to watch the orioles play the MARLINS. If that's like the game of the day is nationally go is like no one's GonNa Watch sat you you say that yet. I'm over here. Thrown twenty dollars on the on the Taiwanese. Third Place Baseball team to to cover to cover the one and a half run line people watch at this juncture people are GonNa Watch you put anything on a we get it. We botchy ball. I tried to watch Orioles Baseball. My whole childhood. My Dad loved watching the oriels. I mean we're from Baltimore the most boring just like mind-numbingly boring broadcasts of all time. I mean watching massin. I can't remember the broadcasters names having one on the name is Gary something just Mine Yamile Jim Palmer right and I and Jim Palmer is great. I want to hear his insights but it was just the most God awful boring broadcast. Everyone else was broadcasting in ten eighty P and they were so in seven twenty. I'm like this is literally the worst. The Orioles don't waste law. They don't win baseball games. You're boring me to sleep and I have to watch seven twenty p instead of ten eighty. What what are we doing here? You're so you're a Webcam. Webcam quality your academies knob before. I was ever a camera. Snob I was. I was having these snobbish feelings. I mean it was just it was just reality any other game except for orioles broadcasts if oils are playing the nationals for example I would turn the nationals broadcast because it was like way higher deaf and it wasn't like I was listening to a librarian announced the baseball game spirit. I'm spoiled in Chicago. 'cause you through you went through the era of Harry Carey Steve Stone and another side. Townie Hawk Harrelson. Who's a national treasure? I think white ops a great job. I mean otherwise Did now Jason. Jason Bonetti is really good and Steve Stone. Both really good Yeah Jay's is also a national treasure he was the MC so I spoke at Sabre Seminar. The last three years and Jason. They always have like a an emcee. Yeah keep the show going he was the MC I think two years ago and dudes just like you said. He's a trees super funny like this width for days. I mean he made that show awesome like. Yeah but nobody beats you just Google Hawk Harrelson highlights and it's just it's entertainment for days. He's really people don't they and I don't know anyone eating on them. It's just that it's like you're watching it so you're watching the game with your Dad and your dad is a die hard music. You just have to die hard fan at all. He wanted the white sox for the impartial. Wants wants to swear. But he's he's using like the AD. Swear words like Dag. Dadgum it and stuff like that. It's Dag. Nellie as a treasure but back to your point there. It doesn't matter who plays at this point. If if baseball's the only game in town like people are GonNa Watch it and people are GonNa Gamble on it and if the players don't want to accept a lower salary that's you know everybody's making sacrifices here the the Everyone wants the billionaire owners to make all the sacrifices while at some point they can't just give all of their money away like there needs to be some kind of concession. I mean if you're gonNA play sixty percent of the games and you have to take sixty percent of your salary than to sixty percents better than zero percent In my is you take it. I think the real question is I think. Sixty percent is zero percent. Everyone's eyes love them but at this my methods on par but I think the the real the real questions to be the service time you know our liberty figure that out so those are things that are not really negotiable anymore they so the major league players waived their right to do what what was it. I think they waived their right. I gotta I gotTa look this new this answer earlier but they in exchange for getting a year of service time equivalent to last year. So everyone doesn't get if the season isn't played. What happens is everyone will get the same amount of service time they at last year. Have you played exactly fifty percents last year? You'll get fifty percent service time this year. That's also well. It's good for some place another so if you're in a rookie and your projected to like have a bigger role this year like the dodgers phenom. Gavin locks was one of these guys like he got like what like a month of bigtime last year? He was projected to probably play a lot. If not the whole season this summer. He's a loser. That's because he's just not GonNa get the service time that he would have for sure accrued you know without injury So they negotiated that and with that the players Waived their right to. I think it was to sue about South Something with salaries and I. I'M GONNA look this up while you ramble off another conspiracy. Bobby are there in Aliens what about dairy products. Killing Bobby. I'm sure you have Dairy dairy related conspiracy donate dairy. I don't know if it's not conspiracy. It's just I don't understand the defeating the feeding milk to a to a. Why would you drink another animal's milk? You're not a cow. I have animals and humans have been doing that for a long a super longtime. Actually that doesn't make pretty nutrient dense food source is it though because it's it's I'm sure is that's why literally why babies drink it because designed to bring a baby calf into to turn that cavins way six hundred pound cow. Yeah that is that is that is nine point what we should be putting in our bodies if you're if you're starving person in a tribe and you're like living in the jungle and you're hungry you absolutely should drink as much milk as you could find stream of milk. He should swim in the stream and just drink it until stream runs dry. It's calories like what else. What else do you want to say about it? So it was so as dirt. But I'm not meaning you can go look to the Broccoli forest and like as much as you want. You'll get one twentieth of calories as milk colostrum. Colostrum IS THE SPECIALTY OF MILK. That mothers produced when like they've just had a calf or you just had a child and colostrum was like this crazy thing like full of white growth hormones and All these different like types of proteins. It's like this crazy stuff muscle milk. We've all taken muscle. Milk Muscle real muscle. Milk has dried bovine colostrum in it because of the some of these like hormonal properties. And it's not illegal but Colostrum is just like a very nutrient dense thing that you give to new essentially sure so it makes sense for adult men who don't WanNa be obese to not drink milk that makes a lot of sense however the evolutionary benefit is not really. I don't think up for discussion. There's just there's too many this too many hormones in milk. That aren't aren't human hormones. I mean the aliens placing these hormones in the milk. Bobby Promise Obama. They're probably the farmers h-honestly who else who also alien considering those. Are The Farmers Aliens? Sixteen hours a day in a field with just yourself in a bunch of cows yet totally alien alien or serial killer. That's a little rats. I know a lot of farmers that lived in the Mid West. You still live in the Midwest. Farmers are without a doubt much more genuine than us. East coasters are and what others grit? There are great. Farmers are great human beings. Yeah saying are not aliens. They're great hard-working. Humans the supplier food chain Very under appreciated. We just walked grocery store because of the efforts of our American farmers but with a women's just go ahead and finish the whitewashing of your asinine statement would you. Would you be a farmer? No but I wouldn't be a lot of things that doesn't make it a meritless job or that their alien people or killers. Well I You've got I have jeff text me right now at the time mixed up. He thought nine his time. Yeah we thought. May that'd be the case but fortunately we've had just a rousing discussion about lots of nonsensical top. No worries us. Joy Hasna in in five minutes. He said perfect. So our guest Jeff Fried today for big Leaguer We're excited to go with him. Little Bit He's been very active on twitter. Very outspoken about some of what I think. Modern hitting coaches are talking about. So that's kind of our core discussion today. So if you're you're tuning in to hear him speak where I think we're all excited to kind of mix it up and see what his motivations are and how this is all going to shake out in the future because this is this is a very real divide not as on twitter but in baseball in general. I mean there's a lot of players who have experienced who know that younger players need it and There's a lot of young coaches time to dismiss that experience friction. Yeah I mean. There's the whole the whole platform of twitter leaves a lot of things open for interpretation especially with you know as parents and you're trying to search out the best information for your child or it's not just baseball it's everything there's there's politics that have to sift through a lot of stuff. There's I'm sure there's other. Sports have online coaches similar to baseball. Baseball just seems to be the loudest because we're both in it. You know but the social media aspect. It's it's everybody trying to sift through information office to not only find what works for them but find what's what's actually write quote unquote right. I love your your your dial right there. That was powerful. Dan People look at you. I know you don't want to. I know you won't admit it on air but people will powerful people are on there. They get in here because of the crazy things. I may say day-to-day I mean. I think this has been a valuable Monday morning. Conversation IF ANYTHING. I hope it's been not boring for all of you We'RE GONNA shift more into baseball but what. What is Monday morning if not talk about Chinese Baseball Aliens Milk? The mental state of farmers Lady Lady Gaga is a construct. Or whatever those are. That's it's been a while. It's been a well rounded morning. We you know. We don't want to be too niche You know so I think. I think this has been phenomenal to niche. I'm going to pour concrete as soon as we get off here today. This is like a full range of toolbox. Conspiracies wasn't what's what's in the concrete Toolbox Bobby I'd say float in a trial and we've got a wheel. I got a wheelbarrow on the back of my back of my jeep. That sticking out the back Helping a friend Some post holes for his new Pergola. Fancy curtains say Pergola postals five hundred fast cargo post holes per postal Perot postals so that was one year high school jobs right high school playing after playing always something. I've done It's an interesting skill to have. I guess it's a you know it's definitely keeps you in shape. If you WANNA YOU WANNA stay in shape without actually hitting the weight room. Go go wheel. Some you know. Couple wheelbarrows a concrete back and forth on the BLACULA. You'll be soren places you know you had. Yeah that's fair. Hey so we got a comment clarifying a little bit here on Youtube. So Adams said on May first Manfred can will soon he can suspend uniform employee contracts so teams can technically start furloughing coaches and scouts etc. So interesting point at the major league level. We don't really need any. We don't really need coaches. They just do their thing. I mean let's be honest with each other. You need hand any data Handlers you need guys that set the schedule. The itinerary for the day. We need that eighty seven year old coach in the bullpen nodding his head as as a Max Scherzer throws just another filthy pre-game through a why you hate we sort of Sunday. Damn well I mean that's kind of you know part of the image of some of these older coaches that it's like alright old fella author my pen and then I'll see you later. That's something I wanna ask. Jeff is about some of these these guys with all that experience because I remember the guy that I that I took the most from hitting when my time with the Orioles was actually a guy by the name of milk. May and milt may if. You're name's mill. You know your old if your name is milt you're smart. You're I don't care what you're talking about your intelligent human being but he at that time milt may had to be in his eighties. If not if the youngest seventies and in this guy any would have these Manila folders with still frame shots so probably ahead of his time realistically like still frame shots of progression of Mantle mays Ted Williams would show these like still frames and he would talk to us about hitting and he's just a guy you wanna sit next to a and just listen to him talk like I. I got what I consider my to strike. Approach a lot of what he would he would talk about control the fastball. He has he had his own bat like his game bad he would just walk around with in this thing had the way. It was like a thirty five inch. Thirty seven ounce Bat yes How has your your back instruction gone? Have you made yourself about? You know I have to can't get you can't find a lay anywhere is because you don't have any carpentry skills whatsoever or sorting up. We just went over about. I'm going to pour concrete later. Maybe concrete today. That would be too heavy Dan. I don't know that's ridiculous while it's going I mean you know Jeff just tax rates is calling. Ah Right now so go well. We'll have him here but I also for not just jeff coming out of a future I've also tried to line up a couple of interesting futures guests future guests that branch off of Baseball. So let me let me ramble off before you do that. Some of the guys. We do have confirmed so this week Wednesday. We have won't be live but will posted at nine. Am WE HAVE Zach Clark which a mutual acquaintance of ours former big leaguer current rates scout so pretty good conversation we had them or we had their Zach. I mean he's got a really interesting really interesting story. Made the big leagues then converted into a Knuckleballer Really Savvy Baseball Dude. And then Friday. We have Pro Scout Chris Carmen. He's DIVAC SCOUT. He was Prominent Independent Leagues Gaming still is but he was floating around the Atlantic League scouting myself. And other guys like that so He's one of the guys who leaves no stone unturned which is something that I found really impressive about him in the next week We've added one guest. Which is matt swallow who is Associated Goto the University of Maryland Also really savvy hitting guy and he is one whose very much in In both worlds of like play professionally knows hitting but also uses a lot of the the technology and some of these quirky drills that Kinda get Jeff's scorn. But he's seems to be pretty balanced and has a good deal of why he's doing unique things he does. So that'll be conversation next Wednesday Math meals bill murphy. Who played in the in the Big Leagues and in Japan? Talk about all that craziness. Because JAP- Japanese baseball is really far out there And then who are you looking at Robert? I've got a professional gamer names Knicks. Gach trying to get them on is like an online game. Ernie Gamer You've got the first woman in Coach I won't say her name because I haven't she hasn't responded back to me and also reach out to Jose Canseco just to see if we can get Jose on because I wanNA talk. Personally I WANNA talk to Jose Canseco you hit with a pitch right you hit Jose Canseco with a fastball. Antibodies against him when he was a knuckleballer. Yeah so why aren't you reaching out to Jose can say because I didn't think of it I mean hey don't remember? I don't know if you remember me. I'm a plan and I think he would remember this one time. Grounded out twice against you. And you through knuckle. Ball's huge house ball. Jose Canseco remember he. You're saying it's like some sort of elephant creature with unlimited memory for average average size white dudes that picks up on inspired league. I think that's zero zero chance. He ever knew I was or would remember who I was sexually profile as been hit by a lot of lot of bitches. I'm sure but no. He played in the northern North Atlanta North American league my second season he was player coach of the Yuma Scorpions. I was on the Lake County fielders. And a right. I can the last game. Yeah our second a lot. Well I visit against him a bunch of times and he was terrifying music forty five years old and still just in great shape China Norma's and looming over the plate. You would scratch out the inner line in the batter's box you know just like no shame at all our. Jeff's calling you to scratch out the batter's box and then put his right foot on the point of the plate and then Like just lutely literally looming over the plate as much as possible so I submitted Jeff. Away with with with Jose Canseco so like you knew getting hit by Pitch Morning Jeff so you can get an audio gone. But I mean so. Jose knew what he was doing. He just wanted to hook an outside corner fastball. Which essentially was the no the plate to him and is like putting the bleachers which easily had the power to do. You had some decent power. Yeah I mean like. He whipped his bathroom zone. It was a wiffle ball bat. It was it was literally terrifying so Mike. Wealthy kids went back at me. I'm just GonNa die so let's just kind of make peace with my life before I picture but you know if you're smart you end up this pitching exclusively inside to him. Because he threw it over the plate at all. He was going to get the barrel to it. I mean that's that was what his that was. That was his mo because he knew no one wants to throw inside to me. I'm terrifying so if take away the entire outside going the plate by looming over it. What's up Jeff can hear us no response yet so I think he is to work on his audio But it's up to us how you doing. Hey sorry about the miscommunication the eastern time. You're on central time. Right up there in Texas Out For eight o'clock sorry you're GonNa make sacrifices with for two apiece Damn Jeff we just talking about Jose Canseco. Did you Do you would have played with him. A good amount against them right. Yeah I played against them with the against the man rhythm applied within with the Rangers in the Red Sox. How would you rank is bad speed in a video game view to make his levels like a ninety nine bats food guy one hundred percent not visits an independent ball and he was like forty six or forty seven or something and he's still dislike from the moment he decided to swing? The Bat was gone through the zone before he could it just like it was different than every other person I'd ever faced. It was like how. How did that that zone? That fast? He was a great dude man. I just wanted my teammates. I ever I can tell you well and my short story with him is that he Might team financially collapsed in the middle of a season. I was on this independence called a lake county fielders in our managers. Quit Tim. Johnson quit before the game. So we decided. We're not GONNA play. We're not getting paid like our paychecks bouncing and so we said our pitchers are going to hit play. The field and position players are going to pitch and when Jose heard about that. He's like our guys. I'm with you. We'll do too. So Jose was a starting pitcher. He threw knuckleball three bats against say and he had a good knuckleball. It was terrifying and hit with a pitch. The separate abandoned different game but is is Ucla in his arm itching in a game in Texas really. What you're is that likes ninety five. Think Ninety five or ninety six. That was a big league game yes and always wanted to be like the extra pitcher you know our lives the game is at a and and they let him do it any tours. You See Double. Yikes so we hit. Jose can say I have a lot more in common. I thought that was me. I would be warming up in the bullpen. Even if the coach didn't ask me to several news listening This is Jeff Fryer Day Jeff. Thanks for being here If you're not familiar with Jeff Longtime Major Leaguer nine years in the big leagues through to Ninety Hitter Really impressive and will be career. We wouldn't have today because there's a lot of stuff changing in baseball. And so we want to kind of hear from him Some of his hitting philosophies and talk a little bit of the twitter stuff as well so stick with us. We'll we'll get to that as we go. But I've I know me and bobby personally because we value a lot of stuff that the same things and were on both sides of this whole new school verse old school kind of Bait but We want to hear a little bit about some of the stuff it you as a as a long term big leaguer found helped you successful because Jeff would you agree that most minor leaguers have the physical tools to to be successful big leaguers? And so what what would you? What would you say? separates those guys. Why some of them who throw ninety nine in the minor leaguer who have seventy five eighty power in in the marlins wide some of those guys not pan out. It's all in the head man. Mentally Lemon guys can't handle it in that. I don't know why it's Kinda hard to figure out. Why some guy scan someday scant play with a Lotta guys in the minor leagues. Were coming up to you. Know Avon Double A. That just looked like freaks. And you're gone. Oh that's too is a big laker that dude's a big later and then for whatever reason man when they get to the big leagues and they it old fifty per month. You're like what happened to that guy you know it's Kinda hard to figure out and it's just you have to be mentally tough. It has to be on your skill level. You have to be able to have to able to adjust on the spur of the moment and many you gotta you gotta be able to take Kiwi telling you how terrible you're gonNA tell you yeah. So that's that's something I wanted to touch on two is. What how would you personally? I mean I know as a minor leager you struggle and it's not necessarily media Tony you're terrible but if you you struggle the minor league prospect guy get putting the you could put in the bencher. You know you get a day off. Essentially you get two days off you know. What would you do to stay right? What was your routine like How did you? How did you personally separate yourself from mental standpoint from a lot of these guys at you looked at? That may be had either more tools. You looked at him. And they were surefire big earlier. I was always pretty tough. Mentally Kinda had like a pretty rough childhood. You know I mean Broken home divorced parents lived with my grandparents. We didn't have a car Basically had to walk everywhere we went in and just a lot of Not Like my kids have it today. I'll put it that way. You know it's a lot for whatever reason I just I always had that a mental. I felt I was never really afraid. Speaker Mind Kinda like doing on. Twitter might talent level was in honestly wasn't equivalent to a lot of the guys. I played with but they just couldn't hack and you know a lot of you know you've heard of the five o'clock hitter right Man Sky Step in BP in there drinking launch and home runs and all that and then come seven o'clock or swing miss you know the adjustments and whatever reason. I was always a good hitter growing up playing with a ball. My whole life in high scores could hit her in college. As a good gator minor league good hitter in big leagues hitter. Always said good hand eye coordination and kidding. I'm not going to say it's easy for me but I was always able to so I heard I watched one of your anecdotes. I think is from Fox. Sports net but You talk about how your in Double A. And you were struggling and then playing wiffle ball game with hotel which I think all of us have probably done at some point Especially in College. We would play stickball. The time you started imitating long exhaust with your leg kick and then you started kind of tinkering with that in the game. So can you speak on how that adjustment was made what you think that did because little stuff like that can be so like. How did this make such a big difference but it seems like it really did for you? I mean honestly. It was a turning point in my career. I was in AA ventoux twenty. After two months you know as thirtieth round draft pick. I was probably a couple of weeks away from getting released and the Rian Rick Rona enough. You Guys Burke's Caught in the big leagues. For four years I think for the cubs and hotel in Wichita in Annotate Ruben Sierra loggins all stars the Rangers with a big Lake Gig and rode agos. Do that in the game because I would just sit in lasers in the in the in the hotel lobby or hotel atrium area. I said all right what the Heck I had lose you now so it right into the game normally normally. Ah Game Marley game. Whatever you'd have be it four fortified whatever than in films. It was one of those rainy days where we On the field Literally went the game without any batting practice hitting with Canada. Like of wide open Not Wide Open but spread out stance with my hands in front of me standing straight up in with raising my leg with ground with Abraxas. You know it went one for four. Hit home runs out and now is the key. Hit a home run foul which I wasn't hitting ahead no power. You know double as five nine hundred sixty pound wouldn't power it in so I do S- one enough it out of the park found. I was like wait a minute. I kept doing it the rest of the year and went from hitting two thirty hitting three hundred and lead our team. Aa Nine or ten offensive categories. That was was that the year right before you You debuted at ninety. Two was that was nineteen. Ninety-one yes yes and then I went. I went well. I did make the doubling all star game but there was a an injury so they called me to go to the W. all-star game and it went to the Won MBP or five win for from five of the trip Venezuela that winter most a popular player in Venezuela three hundred made the All star team next year. Three hundred and triple lie in three months in winter with a huge lake. And so what do you? What do you attribute the? What are the like a duty to do for you? The timing mechanism to correct something. That was a little bit off now. It gave me more power gave him more. I could hit the ball harder more leverage so a lot of the boss. I always hit make contact before this but a lot of the balls that I was hitting a ball base. It's now being taught they weren't getting through. Jill were getting in the gaps and now I could juice a- ball Is hitting against stiff front leg in I. Just it was incredible. How much more leverage a gaming and M confidence confidence rose. So what were your hitting coaches saying with that at the time. Like what? We're you're hitting coaches doing for you at the time. Nothing and you were struggling before that so nothing here. They're a are staying there man. Keep swinging it. You'll be you know what I mean. I mean it wasn't a that year I think in AA was the first year we actually had like. We had three early and three coaches. We had the manager of pitching coach in one other coach. He was like necessarily a hit designated inning. Folks now coach coach averse faith. He happened to be a former position player so he was in. Essence are hitting coach if he was a pitcher. You know a borough idiot Wasn't like we had designated three three Specific job you know. Yes when I was when I was in the Minor Leagues. We always had that designated hitting coach. Pitching coach near manager was for the most part usually position player. But not all the time But I can never really remember talking any mechanics or you know. You always hear the word the phrase make an adjustment. Make an adjustment. But they don't really you know that's that was always a player. You said you you went to a lake kick. I can remember You know lowering my hand position doing something you know trying to trying to get a better feel in the box just a more comfortable. A confidence feel like you said his confidence in my in my opinion. Just trumps. Everything. When you're hitting you feel good at the plate you pull the bat by the barrel and you're still gonNA. You're still going to square up but I can never remember talking in the cage or for doing flips mechanics. It was always an approach is always a a feel thing Try and try and do something with the ball Ball to do this do this. to trying to kind of get yourself back on track. Which kind of sounds similar to what you were Your experiences some of these guys not necessarily the hidden coaches but you know hey keep going keep going with it makes you feel good. Yeah I mean and that's one of the things that I'm hearing all the time as the swing the swing. You HAVE THE HEAD. This swaying with this perfect. You know this perfect trajectory to meet the ball as it's coming down in you're going up. No one's ever talked about my sling. Ever I went from standing Kind of a normal stance with my hands up front to hitting straight up with leg kicks in nobody said a thing about my swing ever you know but now it's the deal you have to have this swain. You'd have to drop your elbow. You have you guys seen enough of the crap I mean and I think that's what they have to sell now is like this swind. I mean we've seen you guys play golf. Yeah I I don't. I'm a pitcher so I have no athletic talent besides during this frigging golfers normally. Yeah seriously get tied is saying is stay in my lane guys. Are you guys? I'm sure yet SURPRI golf fans like tiger and watch golf shirt. Not Every Golfer has beautiful. Swank Jim Furic. How can he be? Good Golfer. Yeah really hits you swing hundred three hundred career bitter that hacking sky millions. Are you have to have this? Certain type of swing like everybody in the history of the game did didn't realize that they did or else. You're not GONNA get well. I guess one of my questions in that in that line is what young hitters do. Don't naturally have the skills that you do. Because like so bobby for reference on how much you know about us but I on baseball having for nine years. I sold it August bobby still owns and Academy has twenty plus teams So we're we're heavy in the instruction side of things but we know that like for for example for me when I was growing up and I'm thirty four. I didn't do a pitching lesson until I was fifteen. My Dad's me to pitching lesson to learn how to throw curveballs. My Dad did not teach me that and I like four lessons with this guy. He became a mentor. He was a great guy named Wayne. those are the only lessons. I got and so I was lucky that a young player. I was like you. I was naturally. I always throw hard. I could always throw well. I just I learned from some great youth coaches like how to do the wind up and all this stuff and I never. I don't remember it. I'm sure I got good instruction for my coaches but it wasn't a lessons culture when I was growing up either even a lot younger than you are And looking back on that. If I didn't have those skills naturally just good athleticism good body controlling I could throw. I don't know where I would have ended up. I probably would just faded out but now with a lot of us like we know for me like I've intervened. A lot of young pitchers lives in like I gave them more than they would have had if they just tried to figure it out on their own. They weren't like you were. They could just you know no one tells me about my swing but I can still hit a lot of these. Kids can't hit without without help because they don't necessarily have a parent or someone or a good coach in their lives. There's more dad coaches than ever. Maybe they don't have the baseball background But a lot of young players want more than they have and then their peers are also getting instruction from a younger age and they seem to speed up a little faster So I mean you recommend that young kids. Don't get instruction that they just play or what. Where do you fall? As far as what young players need to develop their fundamental skills. I mean I know guys are GonNa get instruction and parents are gonNA bring their kids to get instruction and I think it's probably like the confusion in this whole deal is I'm not against that it all you know some kids want more than others or whatever but it's it's it's the creation of the The cookie cutter deal where everybody has to do with the same way in PVC PIPES. And all this kind of stuff. That in my opinion it's not gonNA help these kids and to say this is the way the way you have to do it nowadays I think it's bs I mean dressed me to. In the first time I ever saw bad engaged by neighborhood. We wrote our bike. Survey booder tokens in the machine. You know that we learned nobody owners how to do it. We did it. We practice nonstop and we experimented with swings. But I know that's not the culture anymore you know. Mom and dad wanted to take their son to learn how to do in. I think the sad part is everybody stranded Turkey In it's just the mean that the odds are just not in your favor and but I mean some of my best friends at Baseball Gabonese. They have teams Blessings and stuff. But I just don't think we should cookie cutter stuff in you know leave. What teacher manage teaching is I think he's foolish it so that so that. So I know rich All of us I know Brits the Best I've been around rich so the thing with Richard I don't WanNa just put it on him because there's tons of guys on twitter and I I'm I'm on a former I'm on the former pro side so that you know I fall into the. You can't same same thoughts that you have. You can't really cookie cutter everybody. The thing with rich that I found is beneficial for me. as a hitter and. I wish I had somebody like to to break down. What he what he said when I was playing was the some of these drills are strictly for like a feel So I see the drills in some and don't get me wrong. I don't agree with a lot of a lot of the drills that are being done some of the some of the stuff the PVC pipe. These things that are attached to your body. At what point is overkill right? I think a lot of it is but the the one thing with that. At least I learned from rich swinging with them was was a feeling that I never had a when I played but I shouldn't say that I had it when I played but I couldn't verbalize it so in from Europe from my point of view if I if I would have had somebody that would have said it and I would've clicked with me. I think I would have been more consistent but it's hard to. It's hard to get on twitter and seal out of these guys and you've gone back and forth night. I love it on twitter the back and forth with everybody because I get into a lot of them to It's hard to know. What some of these drills are. You know what their purposes and and is it's is it beneficial to anybody in I can just say from my personal experience hitting with with him and a few of these other guys. Not necessarily that. You've that you've interacted with that. The feeling is good like I felt something I felt when I played when I was going. Well that maybe I couldn't put in a box and take with me and I wish I could've if that makes sense. Yeah what did you feel? I WANNA stand still because I don't I mean I don't really understand this concept of seal now I know I knew I know when I felt good. You know Think Romney gets all. I got two hits that day. You just everything's click in. The game is easy in your confident. You're not thinking about anything else you're not worried about your hands or your stance or anything. It's just the game is easy in your role but I don't ever remember any certain steel except supreme confidence. You know going into the bar like disappointed only got one hit today. Because I'm feeling so good that I should should have got to three kids. Yes Sir I agree with you. A hundred percent like that that confidence that that thought process that confidence was the ultimate hitting tool that the the best advice I can give. Anybody is to be confident. Try If you don't have it. Fake you Kinda Psych yourself up. The feeling I had when I was going well when I was hitting was that whenever I started you know get my leg kick that I could get my get my swing off. You know I wouldn't land early. I wouldn't get out in front again. Get my swing off on any pitch so I was always timing a fastball but I would always feel like I was good on and off speed. Pitch would come down early with my weight coming forward so the feel that that something rich said to me that when I was swinging that was granted past my playing time. I was thirty years old when I met him. I'm thirty three now so I started playing when I was twenty seven the feeling I had was the ability to start an end decide when I was gonna go instead of just starting in. Hopefully I started on time so I was on time for the pitch. If that makes sense yeah but had it had it. He helped me with that. So the way the the one thing he said that that trigger that was was used the word hover off the ground. So when you start your leg kick he said if you if you hover off the ground you know. Kinda ride out instead of just foot foot down he goes. You're more you have more You're more adjustable to different speeds And you know whether or not that make sense to anybody else. If used the word hover or flow through whatever off the ground when he said that it triggered in my head okay. My Foot doesn't just come down and I wait and the question. I always ask guys on twitter. 'cause I'll out mixed up on hitting twitter. All the time is I always ask howdy. Hit occur because it seems to be a separating factor for youth guys that I see you know the Best Player at twelve years old that can time the hardest thrower can't necessarily hit it. Thirteen guy will start throwing a curveball in lost so I always ask. How do you teach someone hit a curve ball And I'd ask you the same question. 'cause I I'm curious to your thought is when he mentioned hover that clicked as that's how you hit multiple pitches and you can kind of feel like you're staying in one swing instead of a foot foot down and trying to restart your swing almost when your foot hits. Yeah I mean I hold data with Was trying to get on time. With a fastball. Right right I mean enough and is basically a I pick my foot up and put it back down in the same exact spot Try Not to go forward. And I wasn't really good. Hitting curveballs wasn't really good at Oxford. But I learned how to battle in state back when I had two strikes. You know I I wouldn't change anything about my stance or anything about my leg. What I would change his mental. My mental approach was now not just looking for a heater now. I'm looking for a heater middle away even when o- to I'm still looking heater Middle Way and if you throw me off speed pitch because a now looking the other way will be stay back just enough to adjust it so that to strike approach is the exact approach that I teach kids that I also use it. I heard it from Dan and I were talking off air. I heard from Guy Milk. May If you know who milt may is Willing played for the San Francisco Giants Catcher so milt. May He tells a story about having lunch with Ted Williams In Ted Williams Ask C. Systems. Like when you decide you're swimming at mill may gives them this whole all in the balls. Halfway home. Plate is going to be a strike. Ted Williams tells him that's that's the worst I've ever heard It's like what? When did you decide your swing? And he goes minute that that guy steps on the rubber. I'm swinging so like kind of developmental. That caffeine swinging but back to your to strike approach yet. It's the it's a timing approach. Essentially right you're not trying to be early on a fastball. You're staying up the middle the other way to keep yourself on time for for any off speed pitch and that was the trouble. I had You know I I am. I had a little bit of the mindset In my head. I don't WanNa get beat by Fast Bowler. I don't WanNa Miss My fastball. Instead of having the confidence to you know I can hit any pitch. Let me get a good one. It was it was almost the opposite. I'm only going to get one good pitch if I miss it. It was like I fell off. My you know my confidence with my confidence but let me jump back. Approach makes a lot of sense to me. Because that's what I use right. I mean we all go through ups and downs. You know when you're feeling good you're like I'm basing Roger Clements today and I know I'm feeling good. My hands quick. I can fastball. And you also add those days for do stored eighty eight like Manley spats heavy. Hand still slow. You don't have to cheat to catch up to this so it's kind of like ebbs and flows during the season you know but for me. I always fastball hitter. Gay I knew that my size my stature dudes we're GonNa th challenge me you know. I'm not a power guy. They're not gonNA goof around with me until I turned on their fastball. One time and then they might start mixing in some stuff for the most part now coming after me because they don't think I'm going to do damage you know. I'm not GonNa hit a home run. Hit goebel whatever but I have. My job was to get on base so I had to be a good fastball hitter. To even stay in the League so one of the things I've seen Y Two questions go number one like with you and Kevin Youkilis Glennon Rush Matt Miller Somalis other big league guys have been more active on twitter and typically like doesn't matter who you are. It's kind of like known that if he tweeted celebrity whether an Ath- leader you know Movies Star. Whatever you're not really going to get a response but it seems like a lot of you. Guys are stirring more and like kind of one. Offer your insights into the community which is good. Because I think there's a lot of young players who would love the tweet. It's like you or have a nucleus or whoever and like actually it's unlike some feedback back on the stuffy of the share so number one is that is that actually thing that's happening like you available or some of these guys actually trying to interact with plea bargains like like myself or other like instructors or or players within also you guys have been talking about. Kevin Youkilis that followed his Twitter conversations a lot of what seems to be coming up is you guys are saying. There's more to hitting than just a swing. There's way more to hitting than just swing. So how do you? How do you propose to teach a lot of that stuff on the web because there clearly is a ton more like what we're talking about right now there's a ton more to hitting than just a swing? Everyone knows that people seem to forget it today but most of the guys who have some savvy know that. How do you propose that we teach more of the stuff? That's intangible that is important. Good question Maintenance whole deal I mean the reason. You guys are talking to me today. Let's be honest because all this you got them Lower Power Jeff. All the people. I've offended on twitter or pissed off but I mean it's tenfold my supporters. I can tell you that the people that Not necessarily play. That's Kinda like the misunderstanding. It's like I never said you had to be a big leaguer to be a good coach. Two of the best coaches I ever had rudy. Hot meal is the hitting coach in Perry Hill as coach. Neither one of them play. I mean I think really played a year to a mayerling voluntary. Never did he was a great Oliver. They're a great coach so I'd never said that you have to be this former professional former big leaguer to be a good coach. Just don't diminish what the guys did in. That's where that's how he got in this situation to begin with when you wanNA listen to you. It sounds like now it's just you know. I mean the guy who never played even a minute of professional baseball's telling the tenure big-league he sucked. Yeah I mean he would say that to my face he get knocked out. You know what I mean you guys know it right and when I came up you respected those dudes like I wouldn't talk to a guy who's been in the big leagues for ten years. When I was rookie I wasn't allowed to. I just said my locker in kind of you know respectfully listened and learned to what was going on and you know paid my dues to get there now. I'm there and I keep my mouth shut. Otherwise the sky's GonNa put me on my plates. And that's Kinda the you know the the the order of respect that I learned when I came up came up in. There's Nolan Ryan with twenty five years in the big leagues. Might I mean you know. I just walked around and looked at the corner of my eyelids like civil law. Man You know that I mean imitating in since I was twelve and now alien. We're talking about the spiracy theories. Yeah back when I came up Nolan Ryan Brian Downing Tom Hanky was on our team. Ruben Sierra Juan Gonzalez Julio Franco El Mero Dean all over the dude came up you know Kinda like heroes Before even got there and now I'm playing with them you know so. I didn't see those guys as far as the hitting I know. There's there's not one way to hit. I just don't think we the whole scoring thing. Boggles my mind. Yeah I see that too. I mean we both do. I'll make like I was a pitcher. I played six years of Two elbow surgeries. I struggled to you know similar to either you guys story. I struggled to be as good as I could be In different ways for me was a lot of injuries and just being a late bloomer but looking at some of the swings I see on the Internet I've never seen appropriate or swing that way like that swing like I don't see that exists in Alex. Bregman will not not a fan of especially in light of all the cheating scandals but he commented on a hidden guys host the same way like a year ago. He was like that swing doesn't play. He's like that's swing doesn't exist and so there's definitely that to your point there's definitely a lot author and then it does. Frustrate Mandala frustrates. Bobby I guess my question is. How does the community come together? Because I mean you said you got allow supporters on your side but do feel like attacking these hitters is actually doing anything valuable for the Industry Zeca if someone came up to you and your so plan and said that one of your coaches these guys have kids that they do care about And someone's says hey. Hey Jeff like you're hitting coach. That guy doesn't always saw a joke like your. You can't be doing that and you really like buy into what he's saying what he and probably. GonNa give that guy the finger like do you think. Do you think like your tactics. Right now are going to improve the community in the long run I do. I do in the long run because I think this this that we're teaching is not gonNA play in so many people were now following in line. T- itching this snapped this. I don't know what it is but I mean there's enough good is played at a high level that see this that. Say there's no way this gonNA work in. Don't I just don't see how this dropping your hands in the snap? Technique is going to work. It's not like where's the evidence that it worked yellow evidence yet with with rich. I think I think snap is more of a lot of these guys have their buzzwords or the you know they're trying to take like a trademark but you know that's like his thing and there's other guys at home that you guys. I'm sorry in ruptured But snap it. That's his deal if you look at his his Logo adverse is Richard shrank snap. It wouldn't remain. Yeah that's like a that's like a accu- I guess you would say you know right like like whip the bat. Snap the bat around the around. Your forearm I don't know if it's necessarily you know his his Like overall teaching philosophy. I think it's more like a quick into the zone. And you're you can wait a little longer to swing. His big guy is is Aaron. Judge like he's worked with Aaron judge. you know. Aaron judge struggled into struggling to the big leagues went to rich Had A breakout season. I think he was number two in. Mvp voting So I think the overall with allow these and before you got onto twitter seen essentially you know where where you're at now is I wasn't on the level that you were at but I was going after a lot of these guys and saying like look. You can't speak in absolutes like like you said there's no one way to hit so stop preaching that this is the way to hit and you know this is the way your body you know the the body movement guys irk me a lot more than the guys that are just trying to teach kids to be better at hitting these body movement guys are saying you know if your body moves this way then. You're going to be a good hitter when I don't see any evidence of that whatsoever feel like as a as an athlete like my body moves pretty well and then you get to the level that that you got to you know these guys move while they're not they're not stuck in you know in body casts like it's not it's hitting they're swinging and hitting and what. What are you teaching a kid? And what what is the message? You're conveying and now is argued that you know. Let the kid be good at hitting like let him get hits before you say that. His swings socks that needs to totally change a swing in. I think it works that way. I you gotTa be good at at the task and if there's an adjustment at the be made or if he gets older needs some more we know what you would consider a mechanical refinement. Fine than than you teach them a little bit. But there's I think it's the I saw somebody on twitter. And I. I don't want to mention names but Challenge you know to a hitting debate and a lot of these hidden guys that never played. I don't think realize it doesn't matter as a former player. It doesn't matter to me. What's a guy knows that never played? I'm always gonNA take the advice and a mole is gonNA listen and respect a little bit more that guy that played and if that if that hurts people's feelings tough you know if Alex Rodriguez. I've heard him talking. Mlb Network and unbelievable hitter. Obviously like everybody knows Alex Rodriguez's career was whatever whatever you pd not eating. It doesn't matter this guy could hit and he was a great baseball player. If he's in a room talking hitting he is the most knowledgeable hitting guy in the room. I don't care who you know. The best hitting coach in the world has taught. There's a lot of big big hitting coaches his. What he sang carries us a little bit more weight regardless of. Who's in the room because of success and I need to hear his experience and WanNa hear it and I think some of these guys on twitter just whether some of them Technologists acknowledged the guys with experience. You have to listen to the jeff rise of the world like your opinion carries weight regardless of what what the topic is. If it's baseball. Your opinion carries weight. And I think some of these guys need to. They need to acknowledge that instead of challenging challenging you to a debate about hitting a wool. We'll let everybody else decide who wins. Because I don't think there's a person in the world that's GonNa Watch at this going to decide that the guy who never played in the big leagues is going to win the hitting debate over a guy who play in the big leagues. He doesn't have the tools in its toolbox. He hasn't had the arguments will a trend. Go ahead buddy incident. I'm sorry to interrupt. You know I was just piggybacking with Bobby. Said what do you think about the trend of like the Meyer? Major Leagues have more and more coaches. That don't have. I'm sure. The player resumes of coaches. When you're so playing how do you feel about that at trend? I think it's hurting the game. I mean and I talked to Exit AAA manager the Other Day. Direct Message Me Guy played with is like. I can't speak out on these guys. Have a lot of these guys that are being hired as coaches to go split to as soon as we hire him. They're exposed really quickly. He goes It's all this mechanical stuff. That a lot of the guys don't even want to listen to these guys what they feel like they have to And I think that's I mean that's another one of the big reasons on speaking out about this stuff is because there are so many guys that have spent their entire lifetimes in the game. That now don't have jobs because guys who never played have perfected this certain swaying or this. Pvc pipe drills to to make your body in the right position and now this guy has a job and you know blow of forty years in professional. Baseball now is out on the street because this guy is figuring out a secret I think that's BS. I main it's these guys a lot of these guys that are older guys had been in the game that there's not a whole lot of other options for them in the world. Not I mean. They're in their late fifties early sixties. They've been coached for thirty years in the minor leagues and now they're out on the streets without much of retirement because this new guy from Dr Lyon. Teach guys how to throw harder. You know what I mean. I mean I think that's crap think that's what's messed up in the game right now. It's so many people without you know practical knowledge of what it takes between the Weinstein. Having Been There are coaching in teaching young kids. When is who have experienced and and in years and years and years on the baseball field around the street in? That's part of the problem. And that's you know there. There is some there is a world where these guys that have. The the knowledge of the body can be in the game and can help and there's not not going to sit here and save some of these guys. Don't help as do help. Some of these guys have have good stuff. That's going to help a player. You know along their path and there's going to be guys at work with some of these guys never played that are gonNA credit their some of their success to them but to the disregard for experience and the the we always say hitting the toughest thing to do in all sports so to have a guy. If I were you know as a minor leager playing I always said former players coaches it at some in some always always always and when you know you're facing the guy in the mind Craig Kimbrel is coming into nine and I'm sitting there in the hole and I'm not going to get an at bat and I'm sitting next to the hitting coach or the the assistant and I'm talking on like what would you think if he's never seen ninety eight. I ice What am I going to do? What can I listen to it? I don't need I don't want to hear the mechanics of that point and think. Yeah and it's in the issue with some of these guys net. Sarcoma raise my voice because it's it's frustrating of Settle Down Man. They don't they. Don't acknowledge that though it's like it's okay that you don't have the experience. We're not the only reason you're getting attacked for not having the experience is because you're attacking the guys who are using their experience as as more of a teaching tool and there it's okay to not have experienced okay to not have played professional baseball or even college baseball like it's okay. It's okay it doesn't mean you don't know anything about baseball but that doesn't give you you know you took a certification or you are. You're you know you train kids in some whatever will PBC or way to balls or whatever that doesn't make you an authority whatever disciplined. You're teaching like at some point. You need to blend what you know. You can know everything about the body with some experience because that experience matters and ninety eight in the box in how your body reacts to that cannot be explained by In my opinion someone who's never seen it. You don't know what you're POW your body's GonNa React. Don't know how you're gonNA tense up just a little bit more. You don't know when you need this. You know precisely start because the ball got extra life founded at the end and this guy is you know this is a second and third. Were down one one out like you gotta get the Guy. In from third and some. Give me some advice. I need it like I need something and you you you don't you don't know unless you've been there and it's it's Jeff. What what do big league pitching coaches tell pitchers in games in that level? What do bigly hitting coaches tell you when you're struggling? What bigly hitting coaches or managers tell you? What is the role of a big league? Pitching coach hitting coach manager in keeping major leaguers on track. What do they do for you guys? I mean honestly it's it's all about confidence amend. It sounds pretty stupid. That's really what it is. But it's not really mechanical. Did that change at all during your long career to the duty. Any change to that over your your pro ball pretty consistent. Yeah and there's different. Different personalities Main Rudy hot meal is a fiery hitting coast. It's GonNa get in your face. You know he feels like you're you're not coughing. You're not challenging yourself Jim. Rice isn't gonNA say anything unless you go up and ask him. Clint Hurdle House was another hitting coach. Who is all about confidence being ready? it just once you get to that level there's really no talk about Mechanics unless unless you have a flaw unless you're in a slump. And he goes to hitting coaches a dude like I did this. Jim Ryan something like rights. What am I doing bringing keep often up? He's like no all right. Let's go the cage. Tomorrow we go the cage and dropping my hands or whatever and I had pretty simple keys for me I was trying to get blind-drive ground ball if I'm hitting fly balls pop ups because I'm rocking my hands now is simple for me. I mean it really. Wasn't that complicated for me. It was more of a you know in my coffin it that I can get on top of this ball and hit a line drive. Hit A fastball But the but the coaches didn't really come in ever in say mechanical stuff for Teachers Mechanical stuff. And you know one of the things. Talk Robert on Mytalk Abi. Is that one of the things you mentioned as far seeing ninety eight K. I agree you don't have to be you. Don't have to have been in that position to be a good coach but don't diminish the guys that were there that no. Yeah it's like we've been on this you know we've been here and we've experience something that you will never be able to experience adults. Say It's not valuable gay and One of the things about the seeing the ninety eight or ninety seven is nobody talks about the fear element gay. I don up to home plate terrified because Matt Anderson or Rob. Dibble was throwing hundred with no command rainy day. Okay good in the batter's Fox Chicago Facing Rob Dibble. After he threw two pitches behind team. Ulmer's back at one hundred and I'm like Oh for seven that day with an air to lose the first game and I like doing really want to be in the game or in the batter's box but now basil this crazy do we. Those the hundred we have no control trying to get his career back in line. And I'm like barely even in the batter's box I'm like as far back away from home plate is I can be terrified. I'm basically trying to survive this at Bat. I don't care if I may contact strikeout. Whatever they with people who haven't been in that situation they don't know the fear that you have a little bit of fear. Every time step in the box is a little bit weird. Because it's those ninety two in he just frigging put one in this guy's ear hole to batteries ago. I'm in there. Is that the same as hitting the tea or soft talks or the Guy Though seventy BP right down the middle every time nobody ever talks about that so it's not I can't stand it when people diminish what we did because it's all about mechanics. Anybody can do that. Look at look at his swing on video. I mean all I have to do is imitate. That could be a good over what's crack. Yeah the fear is I can remember. I feel like the minor leagues. You have a little bit more. Fear because half the stadiums can't see the ball coming out of the backdrop I can remember being Kingston. The Carolina League for the Indians and the backdrop was essentially the blues the the light blue sky and they bring in their clothes. Or WHO's you know? Who WALKS TO WALKS HITS? Two guys parenting throws a he throws a hundred and one. I any six seven. So he's throwing straight out of the. It remember the first pitchy threw me skinned my shins. And I didn't see it and it's just the most uncomfortable at bat you've ever had and did people don't understand it. It's hitting was just timing up. A straight fastball. It wouldn't be the hardest thing in sports. I could do it right now. You could do it right now. If you're the astros that is what it is actually right right. But it's to know what's yet like since. Dan said if you know what's coming you're GONNA be you're GONNA hit. It's the unknown. It's not knowing what's coming it's having to be reactive to everything and and and being control your body when as a hitter you're really not in control of anything else. You're not in control of the ball. You're not in control of the strike zone. Essentially like if that guy behind the Hina dish wants to screw your Hurt you know if he'll if he's got six inches off the plate and that's when he tells you the edges that's the edge even if you're right you're in control so little and then put on top of that you've got you've got the Rob Dibble's of the world of slightly off the rocker that maybe they will Put One in your back because you. You took too long to get the box. Speaking off your rocker. I face John Rocker when he was stolen. One hundred I met him as a kid. They lasted you. Know every The on the planet except white people. Yeah we face that guy thrown hundred wild and face a Lotta guys Jimmy Williams. When I was with the Red Sox I remember this one at bat in particular because we're in Detroit and I think it was a close game late in the game and they bring in a guy named Matt Anderson on member Matt Anderson. I remember that Handed pitcher didn't really have much of a very long career but do like a hundred right with no command and the only reason he'd been the big leagues because he was the first rounder. Anyth- really hearts so leadoff double now I'm hitting Jimmy tells me the but officers in. I'm like I'm like but you'll barely even like sticking the bat like this in like fouled one off and ended up getting two strikes and hit the ground ball to the right side to move him over anyway in a comeback getting. Jimmy's like a It's kind of what I was thinking. Janney put it's the right now but I'm scared I mean guy throws a hundred with no command and I'm trying to lay down a sacrifice spun up that's not. It's not comfortable and he doesn't know where it's going and you're all of a sudden you're you're you're shown. Amir full chest in your face you know instead of just kind of being turned and he can see the side of your body or giving them like a full on target to to really light. Yup Yup as much run I was always better but for hit anyway I would get more. I always felt like I could It was like an added incentive to get down because if I get a fight do a drag bunt with a runner on second. No outs First off I'm getting the guy over third. Worst case scenario outnumber SEC. I have a sacrifice but the best case scenario is now he got a runner at first and third and I got. I got a single on a bone yet. It's only you. Drowsy went right so I practiced at a lot so I was probably better it that type of bunning than out in front. You know sacrificial lamb there I am You know without any defense. If the stools right justice noah get away. I didn't like the bunting is interesting as it back to the twitter hitting a crowd. It's no bunting. Bunting doesn't statistically buntings a bad play and buntings a you know it's not advantageous. Just give out and I take the opposite approach I teach Work a lot of kids you know college under and they always always make them bunt. And it's not because I want these kids giving up outs or bunting it's a it's a cabin and it's a mentality to step in there and bunt but like to get your nose in the over the plate and really lay one down just to it like you said. Confidence always talk confidence. Though if I'm talking to a ten year old kid who's scared to death to bond off of me throwing BP that kids not. He's not going. He's not going far if he's too scared they just lay down a bunt. I mean you really have to get so mostly. Get a scare. The fear out of them Force forced them to have confidence when they're just when they're younger. I'm GonNa talk about younger. Guys they might be Shitty at bunting but I don't know if they're necessarily scared to put their face in there now if it's a hundred I'm shaking a little bit. But you know off the batting practice and stuff guys are laid out or two months the beginning of around him go through their their progression. But I think it's like said bunting You know it takes confidence to square up in bunt in weather guys throwing seventy or ninety seven and I think that's one of the things about the game too. You know that's not important anymore. Apparently I saw Ron Radicati with the red SOx said they weren't gonNA practice. Bunning in spring. Training almost fell out of my chair. As like I mean that's like one of the basic fundamentals of baseball that has been there for hundred fifty years. Now it's not important anymore. It's not Ordinance to practice you know if you're in game seven of the world series or the run. Second no outs and you got a week hitter up the blending in spring training guys nagging expect him to execute this play. But you never practiced it before you know. It doesn't take much time. It takes to extra pitches every round to be the first but defer spot the second amendment to the first base side Third Bayside many guys did it. I'm sure you know growing up. Everybody before you can slang you have to get to bunce down right now. Why is it not important anymore? Can you guys explain editing? Well I can't so I mean. The big thing is In Ron expectancy versus win expectancy so win expectancy like that's just the probability that you win the game as the game wears on Bunny and guide a third. Like say you like. It's a tie game in the ninth and you've second and no one L. butting him to third incre- does increase your win expectancy so bunning like in that situation like you to explain that make sense Bunting earlier in the game. Basically the run expectancy tables just say like how many runs on average are scored in a given out and bay state so and basically they said a runner on first with one out you score more runs on average in that situation than a runner on second with two outs. So they said the data's pretty clear if we're running this guy to second with one AL or or buying into segment won't with no one out there with any any now has out it basically decreases and zone a huge pile of major league data. So typically whether it's first and second you bombed the second and third you actually scored fewer runs with second and third and one out with first and second no one now so they basically swinging away makes makes more sense now. The lower levels like college high school youth the outcomes of a Boehner less certain right like in the big leagues so inputs down a sack want the outcome is pretty certain right like they're out So I mean in in that light. That's essentially how ruins viewing it like we know if we have first and second no one out. We're playing for an inning. That's going to be two plus Ron's on average of we swing away if we bought him the second and third now playing for an ending. That's GONNA give us one point six ron's on average so that's why it's changed so and that's where it's it's hard because. I know I mean how do you feel about that Jeff? Well I mean I think it all matters of what where you are in the lineup. I mean that's true that's true for sure is get on the seven eight whole hitters. Get on and you know you're not gonNA bump with your nine hole hitter. There's a reason he's nine hole hitter. You're not going to bunt second to third with top of the lineup. That's Asinine if he asks me. Now the first two guys you know Balita off hitter in the two older on. Of course you're not going to bet with your three hole guy. He's a three hole guy. But I think it's just I think a lot of these stats are over a broad spectrum this overall how it works but every situation is different in the game. One hundred per se because It's it's almost like the football. The Wendy go for two sprite. I think they have like some kind of hard. Whatever they came up with it. You know the this scenario. If you're down by seth in the third quarter down by this you know what I mean. So it's like we're GONNA stick to this scorecard or this this formula no matter what the situation of the game is every single time before down by this it lists scenario. We're going to go for two and I think that's you know. Every situation is different. You should have some common sense in. That's why you have respected in knowledgeable. Baseball people guide you. Listen is in this situation game. This man has been here for thirty years doing this. He knows what to do. Not some intern behind the dugout on his computer going. Okay the right. Now we're supposed to but Doesn't matter WHO's up L. to Mayor Korea. We have to. You know what I mean. The you know the the thing that nobody talks about what that is. The is the is the fuel for the player. This I'm funny. Ninety eight is this guy won for his last twenty. Let let them let them do something positive. That's a confidence booster to help the team for sure. That's that's a you know. It's the same thing if you know the things that we don't know as spectators in baseball is the Why didn't we put this guy in the in the game or why don't we bring in this bullpen guy will how do you know that? Guy? Didn't you know it doesn't have shit going on at his house. And he's you know he had to show up late any Like stressed out his wife just saw texts in some other checked in today in now pitching in his new role but they don't know that because all they know you normally pitches in the eighth inning low table. It's they're not robots like Daniel Talks about all the time. Like big leaguers aren't robots. Like these guys go through the dads and flows this season. You know the guys have guys have lives in. It's a long season in I only speak for minor league experience. I have never played a big lease but I played with guys play in the big leagues. It's I know it's not easy. I know these guys go through ruts and you lose your confidence. You know at certain points. This season In its you can't measure that with a stat sheet or with a from behind a computer. You really need. You need to be in the Locker Room. You need to know what's you know. Need to be around the guys there's A. There's a reason that baseball has is such a routine game enters a reason that it. It's it's a very difficult game to be successful at long-term in its you know the best managers. I'm sure he played for some unbelievable managers. These guys can navigate some of that stuff that you can't quantify on a on a I guess a stat sheet. Tell you a funny story. So what else with the Red Sox We were in. And we're facing a guy named frank. Casteel is a RHIANNA pitcher Kind of a sinker. Slider guy not overpowering stuff. But for whatever reason he's been very successful against rhianna hitters this within the first two months of the season say so a bunch of as right handed hitters figured. We weren't playing that day. We're going to get the day off and Toronto has really Has Some really great golf courses. So we're going to go play Golf Hotel Eight. We're GONNA play golf will be done by one. Aba Chance Ticket Matt Forgo the sealed whatever and we go play golf like four of us in play this beautiful golf course in show up at the field and we look. We'RE ALL IN LINE AT. You know not like we're exhausted. We didn't expect to be in the lineup. You know we just take Greeny and get after him. You know one more red bull and Jimmy Williams calls is on his office. Anna Jimmy was a main probably the most knowledgeable baseball man I was ever met in my life. He just he just had it in but it was kind of quirky in some of the things he said were kind of quirky and funny and so he calls his in his office and six or seven of its rhianna hitters. Any ghost guides. Ghost writers are hitting one eighty nine against this guy today. Though I figured what the Hell let's put a whole line all line of still with right handed hitters and get after. Jimmy say we're on the lineup in like we go out and get twelve hits and win the game. You know but that that doesn't happen today. Counterintuitive for sure. Yeah like everyone would be like. What are you guys doing? That's not what it says being down you know from the GM to the analytical staff is going to look at the stats first and then meet with GM and talk about the lineup. And then that's going to be passed down to the managed through. I can't even imagine how humiliating that is. As a mate Major League manager mostly students play almost everyone employees being told. Who has the bat wear on your lineup into the end of the game when you lose your Wallet Lost The game? Because you're the manager. We win the team. Did the manager always. Yeah always gets blame now. He didn't get to pick who plays and but he gets to stay in front of the podium financial question after we lost in taking the team are making imagine. I would like to be in that position. I mean granted. They get four five million bucks a year. You know I guess it makes it easier get handled some form ridicule but I mean if I want my team to go out and I want to lead my team and coach my team. If we lose a man we lost. I'll take I'll take the heat but not because I got three guys who the stat sheet says. You should be planned to me so jeff. You're a player agent and you've is a lot of players are up and coming Obviously being an older school guy and knowing that there's this mold that you know Major League teams want your players that you represent to fit into. How do you find the balance of of advising guys on on what they should do? Because I think you're a really good example. You knew yourself you weren't trying to drop your backside and hit arms like you were Joy Dustin Pedroia was a player like compared to today's players with these smaller scrappy. Guys that can get on base. Hit Line drives. Hit the occasional double You're really good at maximizing what you were with some of these up and coming guys feel it you see them struggling with that trying to be something that they're not because they WANNA fit into the big league like how do you counsel them. I mean I think you just have to accept what they are You know we're all we've all been guilty of trying to do too much now. We've heard many times just to stay within yourself. Don't do too much. And then you're GONNA you're gonNA reach your maximum efficiency or maximum level so. I don't really counsel them on what to do. What do basically what they are in. I have to represent them the best way again. How much the how much conversation to have with the Tino Fuego guy with the with the Rangers or with any team how much conversation you have with the with the front officer development guys on on what they want out of your guys and you know? What can you can relate to those players. I know when I was playing. You know the the best thing about having an agent in having a having that guy that you could call was he could make phone calls on your behalf. And kinda stumped reaon. You couldn't stomach for yourself. Essentially so how much conversation you have with some of those some of those development guys and what they want out of your player that you're representing different with every player. I mean I would rather not talk to anybody in player development honestly because I know when those guys get phone calls from agents about their guy. They're not happy to take those phone calls. They don't WanNa talk to you. You're not you don't work for this team. This is our employees. We're going to you know basically instruct him and coach him in mold him into what we want him to be in just because in the long run. Hopefully you're gonNA make money in your eyes off this guy you think you'd have to say you have no say agents a basically Unless you're Scott Boris and you demand say you don't have a safe and the player developed people. Don't WanNa talk to agents. I can tell you hundred percent of the time when I was a player. Young players came in I never forget this young player came in. I'm not gonNA throw him under the bus but he was the first round draft pick in. I was on I was on a rehab assignment. Always in a plan for the RED SOX had to Fort Myers month on Rehab assignment and Me and Scott Hattiesburg there for a month in plan with the extended spring team. Basically you know the Florida State route the Florida State league with extended spring. The juicy else didn't your full season able to so they're just starting out not bashing those guy but they're just starting out and a recent like second round draft by the Red Sox shows up now we're playing with the sky right. He's not and he was a pitcher. And when you're not pitching in those situations you know you're either chasing balls or you're the bat boil or whatever right during that game the day you're not you're not hot. You're not available so this dude didn't like the fact that he was back way so he called his agent Agent Egg Harbor Director to complain that this second rounder doesn't WanNa be the bat boy when he's not pitching that day we're like oh. My students can get crushed right. It's like me and Hattie. Hattie talked to. This guy is like dull. Ever have your agent call. Say you don't WanNa be the back way. Everybody in the dugout skin dislike you. You know what I mean. You got the application but as far as I try not to call some guys were more high maintenance than others In say hey man. I don't like what the strength coach is making me do. He's making me run before the game and I'm like man I don't WanNa call until anybody there but if you want me to I will know that call is not going to be received good and it's not gonna be it's not going to benefit you but hey if it makes you feel better for me to call them and say that you don't want to run a three extra sprints before the game. I'll do it. Might who had me do that lasted less than a year in the Big Leagues? It was the first round interesting. The those it's feels like I remember being a young guy newly drafted you. Don't you don't know what you don't know right off the que. Hey you know you your second or first rounder. You've got some money it's maybe I can call some shots around in the find out real quickly that you just one of the guys in the pecking order. Now you're signing bonus doesn't doesn't play for you Jeff said airing on the side of being along with this by the way to go. What's I'm sorry? I was talking to him while I was just saying to your point earlier. Airing on the side of being humble amongst everyone else is probably the way to go. Now keep your mouth shut and nobody likes. We've all had the teammates that the chatterboxes did never stopped talking. Do through annoying. Nobody wanted to be around. Those stride is like the first five minutes. You like the Breaking up you know. Because he's knowing everybody in the Locker Room Talk. Just keep your mouth shut and go play and as he hasn't rookie a young guy. S what you're supposed to do and then over time you stay in the League alert you earn your stripes than you can speak out. Yeah that's fair. So Jeff as as we kinda start wrapping up your. How do you feel about how we can kind of unify the twitter Community and just the online baseball COMEDIANS. Because if I'm hearing you correctly it sounds like you're honestly open to some of these ideas if you get context I mean I've been listening and trying to figure you out we've been going but it sounds like you're you're open to learning more about some of these things but ultimately you're you know what you know and like you know what's right and what's not like obviously expect you continue to out people for teaching the wrong stuff but is a way that people can Find a balance between taking someone like your experience and marrying it with some of the new stuff I mean can can there be situation where everyone kinda coexists. Yeah I believe the CAN I believe again. I mean You got kind of. It's pretty ugly. I didn't plan on this whole situation turning into this honestly. I made a goofy video. My backyard mocking silly looking slain that I saw on on on Youtube twelve second in did in dislike. The backlash schematic me. Tax Me in if that hadn't happened to I wouldn't have made a second video. I can tell you that Actually talked to a guy two days ago. Chaz PIP. You guys know that it's Yeah I do. I know the name so I put some videos baseball. Rebellious I put some videos out or pitchers out of what I saw in. It's not like I'm spending hours every day looking on the Internet to see who I can make fun of. People are sending me. This stuff nonstop. Yeah Hey look this guy look at this look at this crap makes general yes update some now made. It's kind of like what I play. This is this is kind of the role ahead when I played like we'd be on the bus and we'd be ragging on each other on the bus right in the Big Leagues Mike Greenwell so the Front of the bus. I'm in the back in real talking. Smack everybody on the team in. I'm sitting there in the back of the bus with Jose. Kaneko Tim Narran Billy Hassle. Man Darren Bragg all behind me gone. Hey free call on this. So I'm like Hey greenwell Blah Blah Blah right and then it comes back and Greenwell rags on me and that's kind of what it's become now people send me stuff. They want me to to expose. They don't want attach their name to it right so they want me. I'm the dumb guys like it'll but this on Mir and now everybody's out to get me I you're the you're the face now right. I feel you've got it's it's it's not easy to attack you but it's it's you if if someone feels like they can attack you for you know and defend what they believe that it would probably carry more weight in there is because you're in established bigly or your like your experience. Lens that to the to the argument. If someone's arguing with me on twitter if you make your point and you think you want to me with with me great like than Bobby Block you. Yeah well I'll tell tell you're an idiot you know I. I don't lose twitter arguments like that. But it's that you know that that's how it's a validation type thing in its you know. How do you coexist with with the guys that are doing these drills and and some of my degree? There's there's a lot of guys on twitter that post stuff that I agree with that. I think they're good guys. And they mean well and they've never once talked down to experience skies. You know whether I have more experience than them or guys with your level of experience and I respect those guys and I listen to what they have to say. Now there's guys like you know I don't know I don't follow. Chaz does much but there's guys on on the East and West Coast. I wholeheartedly disagree with what they teach on hitting. And I just don't think it plays and they teach this how the body moves. And you gotta get to you. Know your kinetic chain and you started and you do this. It's like I can't. That's not hitting hitting his reactive. I need to be able to react if pitches. I can't go and just attack get if I could still be plan if I could just jump at a fast time. One one hundred isolate plan and so what a lot of guys. It's it's the ability to react so the way to coexist. I don't know if you can co exist because a lot of guys are trying to make a name for themselves And in someone someone doesn't feel like they need to justify their experience or what they know is just is. There's always going to be friction there and I have friction with a lot of these guys myself. I don't have a big a big league resume. I gotTA imagine I would. I would be speaking out and saying a lot. More Brash things to some of these guys Kind of sit in similar fashion. It that you're doing now but I think it comes with the understanding from guys. It didn't play that experience matters. And just it's okay. That experience matters except that it that it does matter and what you know might be really really good and a Lotta guys could use it. But you don't know everything and you need to lend lend some some acknowledgement to experience. That's I mean that's a great point and nobody said I'd never once said that you have to even have played the game to be a good coach. A lot of guys can be good coaches. That didn't play in high level Let's just appreciate the fact that some people play this game for a long time and their opinions carry some weight gain up not more than yours because you learn how to hit your basement watching videos but when those type of guys attack major leaguers or even guide like yourself guys who played At some level of professional baseball. As if you don't know anything because we know everything we figure this out. That's for the problem starts. It's not going to go away. In as far as coexisting we are co-existing system. We are we just have two sides argument and this whole thing. I've been doing this. She gone thing that was just like accidental thing. I said one day when I made a video. A lot of people ended like it nor they'd like artery videos We just joke dude. Backyard goof off making fun of the swing and then couple of people that follows a teacher. Man Just attacked me in degraded. Mike kids degraded my career in just like the amount of hate. I can't even tell you how bad it was. It was like right. Y'All WanNa challenge me you know. That's kind of inspired me to keep this going to where it is today and now let's just send me your gets US competitive juices flowing. I mean I didn't play in the big leagues because most gifted Guy Mania people told me I couldn't do in that inspired me to do. I mean I was guys are heard the story but when I was in ninth grade out for basketball lived in California A basketball coach. Mike Phelps told me to come back when I grew up I was five foot was in Oakland. California spied foot one hundred pounds. You know thinking I can hoop little bit. You know and And he told me to come back. Grew up so. I was like okay. So in other words he cut me from the team. Three years later I moved to Oklahoma Average twenty three and a half points a game before the three point line and went to college on a basketball scholarship and in nineteen ninety. Two My rookie in the Big Leagues Rin Oakland. Where I went to high school and I get a game winning. Hit OFF ECU DENNIS In the ninth inning. After the game I went into the locker room in a search for reporter and I said Hey I said I want you to tell Mike. Phelps baseball coach basketball coach official down highschool that Jeff Rise back and he's grown up now. That's like that's to to hold that in is and get it out. How many years after the fact was this? You know ten years. After the fact was fourteen I was twenty five or six those long. But what he you know by him saying that to me it inadvertently inspired me to work harder. Either I mean I was five foot tall hundred pounds right not much basketball future but four years later is averaging twenty three and a half points a game without the three point line at five five hundred thirty five and go on to college. We inspired me in. Yeah who likes that fire? You know the last last thing I want. I want to ask you too is. Have you come across anybody on twitter? That you think does do a good job of like teaching. I'm like you said that you probably have dug into some of these guys. A Lot You just see a lot of these drills people send you and stuff. Have you come across any guys that you said that are maybe you? You were introduced to on twitter that you think okay like this guy's he's he's got a little bit of a figure it out. He's he's on the right path. Theory's good seems like he's he's doing something you know that's benefiting more than a hindering some hitters now. I really haven't paid much attention to that. I mean it's like all the stuff people send me all goofy stuff and I know there's coaches out there are it's like I'm not attacking everybody that gives lessons. Everybody's got to make a living. This is something you want. You love kids you WanNa go to help kids and make a living off it good for you man. I mean I know there's a lot of ways you know. People love the game. They WANNA be around. I WANNA give lessons. I'm not. I'm not knocking that at all. It's just when to me some of the things. That generalizing okay. That's cookie cutter this and let's teach this type deal too young kids to me. It's like almost like a crime to me to teach a ten year old kid to swing up to hit a ball on the top of the cage. Yeah the Niagara Reliant on a percents Unfortunate that not all there or Druk around baseball realized. This is not the right way the basic fundamentals inning to me. That's really why I'm in. This fight is to help. Parents get their kids in the right direction because they don't know any better it's sad. It's sad that a lot of mom and dad's you know didn't never grew up playing sports and they don't know what's the best thing for their son all they're trying to do is sell can be the best he can be in their paying eighty bucks an hour. Chances Some Guy who's you know Spatula N- in teaching him half swings and I think you know I mean I. It's hard to navigate for as a parent or even even someone who wants to learn baseball. If you're an adult and you WANNA learn more about coaching Mary. You want to expand and grow as a coach and everyone says girl the game Is Sifting through all the? Bs is not is not easy. Yeah it's more more more and more of the you know like I mean I never put much thought into the fact that you know who would I tell somebody to talk to or because I get asset a lot? A WHO's a great coach in your area. I'm like I don't know any. Yeah I will tell you this guy. You should go to but fi till everybody's ethic is getting to be overwhelmed when he can't everybody. Who's the best pitching coach? I mean it's basically whatever coach you can relate to helps you get better. That's coach. I mean you know you guys know it's confidence Very Hill never played in. The Big League never played professional baseball. Best Infield coach I ever had. If wasn't prepared hill. I'd never would play the bigly when there's a twitter guy now cannoli Korea who's the equivalent. I mean it seems like he's Super Knowledgeable Infield Guy. He's I think the giants for space coach. I think this year but he hasn't doesn't have Playing resume beyond college but more reports. And I've seen a lot of his leg infield drills museums just excellent what he does but yeah and my hope is kind of like. Because I've you know there's a bunch of of your bigly buddies that have been around and I hope that there's more ex big earlier sharing the experience side because for all the guys that haven't played the really high level they don't have the. Here's how to think about approach. Here's how to think about pitch sequencing. Here's how to think about reading a hitter. Like I talk about some of that stuff on my youtube channel. But I there's other guys out there that played allow higher levels in a lot more years than I did and doesn't make me feel threatened like I'm gonNA share what I know robot. I hope there's more bigly guys that share what they know. It doesn't have the conflict like if you WANNA talk about approach like do it and I hope more more big I start to do. That's why I asked earlier. Bow If people tweet at you're Kevin Youkilis or some Glennon rush Guys I've seen their names attached to some of your threads like will they get a response like that'd be cool if they do and I think I would love to see videos from you or Kevin Youkilis talking about approach? Had you hit a cutter like cutters these terrifying things. I threw a cutter for a little bit. How A hitter figures out how to hit those. I have no idea. And it's that is going to become solely from experience. I mean I tried to answer all the questions on twitter. I get a lot In I can't answer them all but for the most part Friday. Interact WITH THE PEOPLE. I mean I feel bad if I say some stuff out there and I'm not gonNA be there to take heed if it comes back. It will get a lot of messages and stuff but I try to interact people. Ask Me Questions. I can't answer mom. Would I'm trying you know? Drive gained by four thousand followers in a month so a hard hard to to answer every question. You know people send me. The reason I'm still doing this is because the amount of college coaches high school coaches the enemy messages on a daily basis in Jeff. I'm so thankful you're speaking out. We have these guys he's hitting gurus it the ruling young kids When I get these kids in high school they can't hit any of them. Please keep speaking out against these guys. I can't even. I'm not exaggerating. I get five to ten of those every single day. Yeah I can. I can attest to that too when I maybe not to the level. You're getting but anytime I would tweet something out and say like I tweet at somebody and say this is wrong. This is that's not how you hit. You can't do that. I'll get college coaches that I know. Tax Me on the side or guys at. Dm Me in that. I have never met before. They're like please keep going. We can't say this but it's nice to see someone that played the game. Stick up for guys that are sticking up for the actually playing the game and not you know the manufactured ballplayer in the in the lab. Right I mean it happens a lot and it's a Lotta in. I understand these guys can't speak out Coaches or a Lotta guys were minor league coaches. Or even I've had front office guys that I'm friends with call me or direct message me and say a man. Keep it though. Frito love what you're doing we just hired a PVC pipe hitting coach in the minor leagues and insight into me. It's insane notes that guy's the PVC guy that's GonNa teach the swing in the body. Motions is more valuable than the guy who played for years in the big leagues. But it's been in pro ball for fifteen years and has a lifetime of knowledge and experience in plain. This guy's GonNa no more than this guy. He might know some different stuff and he might be able to help you but he he. Can't you want it when these guys go full blown? You don't know what you're talking about. Jeff Yeah what the Hell do you know? That's when that's when you have to go on the offensive and you you defend the plane your career to defend your resume. I mean that it speaks for itself. And it's you know there needs to be some backing off on on some of that stuff Before you go jeff it not is this really Gary I it's not. I didn't think it was played Gary Manage against a when I was in Dubai manage against us a few years but I love him. He was a great guy. It was great guy as an opposing played B. S. with the on the field at that. It's funny that not gatty is getting skin. Run onto the funny thing is is like I really wasn't Do much on twitter probably six months ago in one of my friends said statement. You need to get on Earth. Really WanNA MESS WITH THAT CRAP. I got on it and One of the first people saw not Guy Eddie in like played with diabetes at the end of his career and then he was my hitting coach. When was the last two weeks of my season my career with a New Orleans New Orleans efforts he was the hitting coach? And so I'd love this dude. United didn't get spend much time around him. I just thought he was a cool. Do Right and so when I saw this on. Twitter this at not gatty. I immediately started communicating with this person. Liking was theory Guy Eddie. In probably like two weeks in I was like. Are you a direct message? Are you might think you are. He's like no not actually did is one of my favorite follows on twitter. He's like and so much good. Uh Not always putting these cool stats will staff about past players and stuff like that. Make business maybe Video of the kids. It a five year old kid hitting a ball gown she. Yeah Yeah Yeah. The people are people are now. You've got the Red Bat. The Red Bat. I mean. It's just just had fun. And and some of it can be pretty mean and ugly but ended the day. I'm having fun. Jeff. Thanks for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. I think it was a good chance for people to hear you speak and You know for me and bobby is like minor leaguers. We appreciate Some you're inside your stories and like I said I hope the the community continues to to heal itself and if that means breaking apart for a while so that it kinda comes back together better like you know so be it but appreciate you coming on the show really do apologize for the time mess up early went off and I was like oh rap but anyway that's my bad I appreciate you guys have me on in You know y'all be safe man. Yeah good to meet you. Thanks Jeff I appreciate it. Thanks for tuning today Obviously catch US next on Wednesday on here on twitter and Youtube and obviously on spotify itunes to subscribe anywhere you are and And Yeah we'll get your next week. Bobby send us out my man. Dan Was it was fun. Go celebrate my new haircut in Chicago. Everybody will see everybody. Friday live Friday. Yeah Wednesday we won't be live on twitter but I will post the recorded video. Um of our podcast with Zach Clark. That's GONNA be great to have it on spotify night tunes live as well so I mean right at nine ham. Abbas it'll be up so you can listen. We'll miss thanks for being here. We'll talk to you soon.

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Hour 3: Mina Kimes

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Mina Kimes

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There is no way that that song makes you feel good immediately still does it just because it makes you think of that movie a Yes or no good using song man. Kenny loggins is the greatest soundtrack singer-songwriter in the history of music. Though I was doing the gesture with my fingers I was pantomine because I learned how to play the trumpet with Danger Zone so my memory of listening to that song playing so badly wish we had a trumpet right now. It's really easy song to play. You guys think that if I asked the audience whether danger zone owns alison just muttered Alison gotTa turnblad seriously trump. We need one by one <hes> Oh trumpet you said Okay. We're good their main times with us on E._S._P._N.. Talk Radio. Can you tell us top gun the trailer Topgun. You're watching it during the break. Yes I had not watched the trailer. I have seen the movie okay I have. I don't believe you. I don't believe there's you know way. You've seen doubt you gotta you gotTa history of lying about these things well. She lies because she likes to be part of the conversation. She feels she feels left out of movie conversations and what you're doing right now by the way you've seen this. Go Recap Topgun for sure. It's been awhile but you've been able to take your way through some movie plots with very vague knowledge. Let's see all right at the end okay so it's been a very long time since I've seen Topgun for obvious reasons but I'll do my best to recall. Call it so you've got maverick. Tom Cruise goose who I don't remember the actor Edward iceman Val kilmer stunning at the time and then Kelly something played the woman in Your Eyes uh-huh so obviously the movie is about a fighter pilots and who are fighting pigs in Russian something the other other ambiguously evil yeah you know they're rushing and the the question is who's going to be the top gun and end in the end. It's Tom Cruise. He Beats ICEMAN. It's really good. I mean I think she my Mavericks Dangerous. She got us a mix. Do you know who do you know who mavericks got a mentor was in the movie. I WANNA guess Kirk Douglas but I don't remember the the guy running the top gun academy. Was Tom skerritt with Tom Scary yeah in a trailer. It seems as Tom skerritt has been replaced hair Ed Harris. Yes playing Ed Harris. Can I tell you how much I love the phrase ambiguously evil the idea of just ambiguously evil. We don't know what a great explanation we doing there either. I thought I thought this was an American. The WHO could be the top gun. I told you I think what was her. Their logos were just like black with a Red Star. Oh the bad guys the bad guys MiG while I remember there's a famous scene which they're playing a particular sport. You're all the all the a fighter pilots you remember volleyball. You ask the question. It's been a lot so I feel like she has actually seen it. Do they sing in the bar. Not Dangerous not take my breath away breath away. That's with him in the woman <hes>. I don't remember what do you what do you like about the trailer beyond its top gun trail one. They do this thing anytime you have a remake reimagining or a sequel sequel the key is to take the original score and slowing down at a children's choir but yeah you're right then I will no matter what you could take any song any song who let the dogs out. What is Emma Ellum? F._A._O.'S SONG RED FOODS COMING UP UP IN MIAMI. Yeah okay any song slow it down and I would get chills. It would be a challenge. They could do it scarface with dogs trick that dogs out. Let's say yeah a hunting a werewolf movie it could work honestly could like a horror movie with who let the dog down super. I it's been thirty years of service for Maverick and he's still just a captain. He hasn't been amounted to nothing even though he's the only fighter pilot to shoot down three planes in the last fifteen years but as a matter of Mike did you see the the motorcycle is back. There is a scene which he goes to a garage takes the sheet off his old hog motorcycle go today doing his own stunts. Do you think he's flying the planes absolutely food the helicopter and fallout wow my there's a shirtless Tom Cruise with a football on his playing volleyball. Wasn't it actually volleyball. Was I right did you. You faked it she now I've seen the movie yeah I remember the beach it was it was in your here right beach volleyball and I spend looked at checkout watch while he was shirtless and it's just a flex. Just didn't Tom Cruise. Do I have this wrong when he was jumping up and down on the couch with Oprah and scientology and stuff. Did Tom Cruise not have a period where we felt like it was going to be done and then he came back at. At the end of Tropic Thunder do I have this wrong my memory of this wrong. It felt like Tom Cruise was about to go away you do because you ignore about three mission. Impossible movies each better than the last Mike having good wait a second. I've seen the first ones the best ghost protocol rogue nation fallout each one of the last better than the last incredible films. It should have been nominated for best picture. That's not me like being sarcastic or anything like I. I know sometimes I like tout action movies mission possible followed should have been nominee. You said it's the best action movie time and you weren't. You weren't taking second places. No that's a maverick came out. But what do you do. This law and Tom Cruise's career. What are you talking? I never N._F._l.. That for one second is perceived by Dan. Meanwhile Tom Cruise is out here still pulling out banger after banger after Banger night and day while you don't get the whole deal with Cameron Diaz and Tom Cruise they had a chemistry that jumped off the screen Jack reacher how Jack reacher to how old is he now fifty seven fifty eight ageless Wilford Brim lease age and cocoon do God's ears summer's here. You know what that means. It's barbecue season and if you're like me you'll be serving your friends and family the incredible able meat from butcher box they work closely with the best farms and companies committed to raising animals. You mainly this ensures not only an ethical process but one that results in a better quality better tasting nutrient dense meet with no edit hormones or antibiotics ever butcher boxes delivered right to your door with free shipping. 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Later the GEICO Insurance Agency could help keep your personal property protected like if you'll roommate isn't the brightest pool float in the flooded basement visit GEICO DOT com to see how easy it is to switch and save on Renter's insurance Donlevatar if mission impossible's on your television. You're you're going to watch it for a few minutes like they're all entertaining although I would say the one that was bad was the one where there were faces being peeled off. I thought that everyone everyone by that. Rule then. It's all the one where what no no but the one Philip Seymour Hoffman the one where everybody was pulling out of your mind not a single bad moment in any of those movies not want Stugatz do not have a good movie if you have a movie in which your face is being peeled off as a plot twist did not like them ask when swing was coming back the mask tech savory live with our show with two guys on E._S._P._N.. Radio Jose Canseco has tweeted he was on one and it's a good one. It's a good one <hes> when we check in with Jose can say go. There's a variety of things that have happened whether he's wearing purple speedo on the surreal life for driving around with a bunch of goats in his car wearing diapers or losing a finger while playing poker or asking twitter to bring a chandelier do his empty mansion can Seko's life or it just gone crazy or sending his twin brother to a charity boxing match and his place but not realizing that is twin brother has tattoos that he doesn't have people figured take out. I did mention the goats in diapers. We should get just a homerun bounce off his head that one time I always think we got to save this list because Dan always asked Madonna time aided Madonna like ten interesting things about right Jose Canseco but Gimme imaging here is one of our better opens. It's time to highlight rambling of crazy person Jose Canseco tweet of the day the salute to Washington and E._S._p._N.. News for going into the deep deep into the library and finding the imaging that is four Jose Canseco tweets and here is can say go on twitter telling you and I feel like I may have this picture on the Avatar but it looks like he's wearing like an obi-wan-kenobi outfit of some sort and and he says in twenty seven years six months seven days and six hours humanity will change greatly. It is an ominous so here's urban Meyer really not worth all of the imaging or anything else I just he's it is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my sports life though this human being who used to be one of the top five I've athletes but most important athletes in America as has just gone off the deep end so <hes> what do you make do God's you're saying earlier. <hes> I heard you saying earlier that Jim Harbaugh is exhibiting the behavior of a dope <hes> but he's also right. He's also right because Jim Harbaugh has been quoted as saying of Urban Meyer Urban Myers had a winning record really phenomenal record everywhere he's been but also controversy follows everywhere he has been now that is simply a statement of fact that is a statement of fact and so I like that I like that it was said I prefer coming from someone other. The Jim Harbaugh who is Oh and five live lifetime against Ohio state who was hired to beat Ohio state who has never beaten Ohio state who will never have to face urban Meyer again because it will never be the head coach of Ohio state to get anyone else could say that but Jim Mortga. I disagree on this front like I understand the record doesn't look good and it sounds like oh you can't beat him so you criticize him but not only is he not wrong about urban Meyer like I don't Associate Jim Harbaugh with his teams having a lot of controversy around them like I don't know I feel like Jim Harbaugh Ken control his teams in probably looks at Urban Myers and. It says Oh look a soul seller willing to do anything in order for to in order to get victories not about the things that I'm about this is a person who will do anything to win and controversy always follows him including you know at Florida where his teams were getting arrested tested more than any teams in the sport yeah. No it happened in Florida. It happened at Ohio state obviously but so it just it comes off that way. When Jim says it right you couldn't beat them and now he's no longer coaching and so now you get a criticize them and he can't really respond audio care that much about whatever say anymore I just it seems like the wrong messenger great message and he's right seems like the wrong message saying is it gives Ohio state fans and easy clapback? Even though everything you're saying is undeniably like categorically true they can just say five to him which is annoying. I just loved the idea because Jim Harbaugh at one time. This is a different time in American ways. <hes> This guy was the hottest coaching candidate thing that existed and then he goes to Michigan and in starts losing when anybody any college team would have hired Jim Harbaugh as the most coveted thing and now he can't beat Ohio state. He's had quarterbacking issues the entire time he's there even though he's a former quarterback back and he finds himself in a position where the only thing he can do publicly is say I but they're dirty and we're kinda clean what but they didn't hire him to be clean hired him to beat Ohio State. They didn't hire hire him to be the guy who doesn't have controversy follow not just beat Ohio state. They haven't won their conference. They have it made it to a final four. They just they've been pretty average since Jim Tabora over Michigan average Yes for Michigan. I think this cuts to like what we were talking about yesterday with Baker Acre Jalen Ramsey which is it's a lot harder to be interesting when you don't have the winds to back it up as in sports right like when you're a winning you can say whatever you want you can be Jim Harbaugh who's actually a very interesting and strange and eccentric human being but when you're losing suddenly people can start criticizing for those things in a way they wouldn't have when he was in San Francisco when he was a hot college he literally the only person who can say this and have it be news like. Is there anyone else who can say this quote quote about. We'd be like DAB. Oh I think is reached that will be Daboh because I was thinking horrible. It wasn't a matter of because of his because he's esteemed but just because we are seizing on the thing that's to God's seizing on which is this is interesting only because Harbach can't beat him like that he those other two guys you would assume if they were saying it. It isn't because they can't beat him. Ram Dan Mullen could have said it Jimbo Fisher honestly. It's July uh-huh anybody. Lane Kiffin Browley says it all the time I mean harbor said he said listen to comment about Meyer was not a bombshell. Everyone's making delivering solid probably say yes October. We're not really paying attention to it asking a third topic and highly questionable today. Bring the Heat Dan Donlevatar. Did you know that Jose could say goes finger fell off during poker game. We did a good show today. Man Sixty eight eight percent the audience said so that all job is Doug Stugatz. That's that's a quality program. We put together job. Everyone these live at our show with this two guys on E._S._p._N.. A._M. Radio you know him from L.. M. F. A. O. But he's also an assistant coach for the Vegas Rollers of World Team tennis the rollers take on the Philadelphia freedoms this Sunday at three P._M.. On C._B._S. it is a perilous time for our freedoms red. Fu comes to us now <hes> L. M. F._A._O.. He is our tennis expert and I thank you for joining Sir. Thank you for being back with us again. I am curious before I ask you. The tennis questions are are there. Many people who call us the Font Kendall Gordy your real name that not a less my bob even call me that okay so it's she calls you food who she calls me flu and then we call her mom Fu birthday today mom's birthday baby all right well happy birthday data mom food we will get are obligatory. <hes> you know the way that we congratulate people. Don't care good luck. Happy Birthday happy so explained us <hes> the federal thing thirty seven how oh you know A._J.. Number the numbers is it's his passing to compete. It's is it's his will to be the best be the Alpha male and so when you're watching that match and all of us loved it at Wimbledon your like who are you rooting for. What's happening with you? And how much are you enjoying that well. <hes> first of all would've CETERA and and jokes <hes> and I'm just watching in all you know fifth set <hes> Well of all and I'm just like these guys you can see physically. They were just done on and I'm. I'm seeing those jokes. I think he has a mental edge on federal. I think he's a little tougher. He's a little more at ease you know his diet. You know the guy thinks just drink liquids with on on you know or the weekdays I mean the guy is is nuts and he was visualizing before the match. You know all this stuff so <hes> I'm just watching everything in learning and and <hes> it's it was just amazing that are choked right. Oh dear God I mean he something happens at and I don't really mentally something you can see is glazing ev- is something uh but I feel like if it had been a couple of points of difference he would have won and we wouldn't be saying any of those things we wouldn't have seen any glaze in anyone's is one way you cannot show but I'm just saying if he had scored AH basically a four shots had gone differently he wins and we're not saying any of that stuff correct absolutely but there's something you know he has to match points and sometimes he's actually. Imagine that you want in your already celebrated and or you know and and he was really thinking during these points but joking and the other player is try you know they're hundred percent and they're it really slight difference at that level one crazy little mental hiccup and it's you know you lose your best points and now there's match points against Red Foods greater now's because Michael Irvin and told them stand that when you're winning and you're trying to close someone out he told us this you really need to focus. You can't think about the winning and the celebration afterwards you re. That's the time in the game where you really need to focus and Federer he is right he was already holding up the plate the Wimbledon plate rather than finishing off Novak Djokovic whom and you are on it tennis expert Red Fu. What are we seeing from Serena and these most recent final? She's not relations making it to the finals looking good and get into it but when it comes to the finals she's not really putting up much of a fight in them what he thinks going on there red fu. You know I catch that magic but I know that Serena is gotta be probably probably the best female competitor out there so we know I think she's fighting but how her own Arnold his own in your own this you have to the a person across the deck and they're fighting and how she you know what I saw about. She was just quickly mentally just all point and so there's not much you l.. Serena is so publicly though and she has the press conference who she has their answers and she has to do so many things unless you have to kids a lot more to think about <hes> you know first of all time. She has more pressure on how that much focus like. It's a tough to read. Fool is with US Ellum F._A._O.. He's an assistant coach. The Vegas Rollers of World Team tennis the roller take on the Philadelphia Freedom Sunday three P._M.. On C._B._S. Your Dad's sold motown right your dad. Your Dad sold motown. How do you know how much he sold motown four? I think I don't know for sure I think it's in his book but I think I would member something around sixteen billion and is that a good price in retrospect like the business of Motown is that is that what that should have gone for. I think it was one of the past sales on the block you know back. Then I think uh-huh records I think so for five hundred million <hes> shortly after Rob Nice I I think that <hes> I think Paul so that's that's what I think but I think it's all on his book. I mean he actually tells you know the this Kinda story <hes> but <hes> but do you know it's a it's a tough business out there. It's tough Red Fou. We WanNa make some new interview. What's your hottest tennis? Take tennis take like an opinion. You have on tennis honest that we can put all over E._S._p._N.. You're not GonNa Believe What Red Foo <hes> of Ellum F._A._O.. Were trying to <hes> we're trying to get in the news or show really craves that because it doesn't get quite enough of that so we are wanting you you to break some news here with some content that we can use all over E._S._p._N.. So does the assistant coach of the Vegas Rollers of world team tennis think that Federer's on steroids or like something something that will be a really hot take a forum. I'm just giving him some options I have. I don't know these <hes> Dan push to read. I'm sorry 'cause Roger playing a very high level. Joke thinks on on clay or something like that and it would have been just fine. Dan Really raised the dollars overrated hoppy out here. It feels like I scared party rock anthem it feels it was like I just ruined new tennis coach right now okay. We'll move on other things than can you tell us what it was liked to grow up around music and in the home of your Father Berry Gordy <hes> well you know I grew up with my mother but I was visit my dad in the summertime <hes> and <hes> you know he was having pardons aren't like tennis and he would have chess competition and the biggest competitor ever tested backgammon and they'll bitten in back on uh-huh and all that stuff that you know there was a lot of animals around <hes> P com llamas and <hes> and and it was just a busy very athletic <hes> you know all these guys family and <hes> realized that smokey was famous <hes> and <hes> and these people were I want to be my friend just because of our and you know or maybe they could meet smokey Robinson what thing they would get invited to the eastern <hes> so it the kind of a weird thing but when I was a kid was just on normal stuff except for the llamas like why were there llamas that your party no they were just I guess my dad you know <hes> earth and llamas peacocks and you know <hes> it was just I don't know ever see those viral videos of those llamas where they shave the neck but they leave the hair around the face and then they put sunglasses on the Lama that's wild.

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The function that Samson serves for our show is he is a haywire executive who actually says a lot of different things that no matter how dishonest people might think. He is because of some of the things that he did to Miami. These stories that he tells from the underbelly of sports they all ring totally true like they don't have a lot of holes in them and so Mike just got done. Talking to David Samson and Mike was saying when I came in here that he's his conversations with Samson on this front or some of the best work that he has done because he's uncovering on mining these unbelievable stories from twenty years ago and the last time many people in our audience cared about baseball. Where names are being moved and stuff that you'd be surprised by so go ahead and Mike. I don't want say anymore because I didn't even I didn't even hear it. I just saw how excited you are about it. So when talking to Samson the great story is just sort of naturally come out so much so that I was like. I need a getting organized and focused to really maximize the amount of stories that we can tell so over the last few weeks as we've been under this Pandemic they've been hyperfocused episodes each one each week with David Samson focusing on a single topic. Miguel Cabrera one was fascinating. We've done really good ones and this week's episode is about John Henry the present owner of Liverpool and the Boston Red Sox who own the marlins once and the whole sale complicated between Major League Baseball. Jeffrey Loria and John Henry in which Samson Loria got the Marlins it's a fascinating discussion. You you find out so many amazing things. Like how Vlad Guerrero Jose Vidrio and how your Vasquez almost came with the ownership group to Florida? How John Henry wanted to take Miguel Cabrera and Josh Beckett with him to Boston fascinating stuff about the inner workings. We take you inside. The owners meetings with butts ceiling and how mad sealink was what John Henry became since. But there is. There is a sticking point to the deal between John. Henry and Jeffrey Loria. All negotiated by David Samson circling around. Does he have the notes on everything the notes he takes meticulous notes. There's binders everywhere in his house. Like the John Doe in seven. Wow Okay Kevin Spacey and seven so he is reading from not giving you information because the one thing I did hear from Mike that made me laugh is and I still don't understand it so perhaps I'll explain. It is that John Henry negotiating technique. John Henry the owner of the Boston Red SOx owner of the Boston Globe owner of a whole lot of rich people things that evidently he can't cry tears and so he has the US an eyedropper and he uses it to intimidate people in negotiations because it's disorienting. It's something a bond villain would do. One one of his goto moves. There's so many interesting nuggets here in all of it but there is this super souped up rock star like bus. That became almost a dealbreaker that had John Henry. Enraged at a black tie event and had David Samson we know how he could be willing to walk away and blow up the biggest deal at the time of Major League baseball history multimillion dollar buzz. Yes a crazy bus that Samson and Loria get in the deal ultimately Major League. Baseball makes it happen. How David The story around? This bus is insane because the bus rears its head once again. By the time Loria is willing to sell jeeter's ownership group does jeeter know about the bus. Find out on today's local. What happened with this bus and Jeeter who who might be finding out for himself on this hour also jeeter jeeter got sandbag. There's a you don't want to give away two months eight is I mean. It is a self of comedy. D- screenwriters a better payoff to what happens with vis bus. Just listen to local hour when it goes out today next week. We're going to do an entire episode on the Montreal. Expos and talk about Puerto Rico and how contraction actually works the Samson episodes of the local hour as you mentioned I feel so passionate about. It's probably the best work I've ever done. They're good stories there are. They are good stories at a different time in baseball for many of us on this show or they'll not although not billion Chris Dick Raw. Did Mike originally hate the idea of US having Sampson on weekly? I don't love it like I've gotten to know. David Samson is a person but that's not a great look for us in Miami. I don't blame any Miami and the dirty for me as a journalist in this town for so many years to to be using this guy who ends up getting one point two billion dollars from the city because he's better business than most people aren't. He just took advantage of our Banana Republic politicians down here and he got a stadium built and I don't blame anyone in south Florida for thinking that he's all manner of despicable because of that but good God is content machine. He's a content machine stugatz when when when he's talking about these stories they're just not stories. You ever get access to because these are the things with the rich people that none of us ever find out about. I know I don't blame anyone either. I'm just saying you. And I knew he was a fountain of contact and Mike used to fight. Us having him odd. And it seems like Mike is a joy net fountain of content and strong in it. Oh so much but I do articulate. I appreciate you mentioning it but it is. You almost have that discussion with David. Samson every week about how uncomfortable I am it actually leads to an interesting dynamic because I also don't let them paint such a rosy picture of it either. It doesn't the bowl bleep. Doesn't necessarily fly so much and I still hold a grudge against David Samson for some of the stuff that he did but in the wake of pandemic man. I am grateful for these stories. These this is why this is why to me. The dynamic works even though again. I will mention again. I totally UNDERSTAND IF SOUTH FLORIDA. Totally hates the fact that we are still a lending a platform to this particular person. But what I wanted to say about that because I feel like people need to understand it when billy and Mike Question Sampson. It doesn't sound like you've ever heard journalists question. Anybody because billion Mike know where the bodies are buried they know where the manure would be and so they can sniff out bs and the immediate follow ups make for something that is good content. Because he's hard. He is hard to be more slippery than but he doesn't tell things that feel like they're not true. Those got like that's the part one of the parts. Tricky about the whole thing is that many people think of this is simply a sleazy liar but these stories have so much truth in the details that he would have to be in an unfathomable liar in order for these stories not to be true because they just have too many details. That can be verified. And he doesn't really care about the spots that he puts people and we actually had an awkward situation last week where he was weighing. Consequences was speechless for the first time. But Red Sox fans are GonNa want to hear this because John Henry is sort of a beloved owner brought a championship to them Liverpool fans. John Henry they're one of the great soccer teams now. Boston red SOx nation. You weren't first choice. You find out in this episode that he didn't want the red sox he wanted the angels and also I found out that the Angeles once owned by Gene Autry. It's fascinating local hour. Yeah Gene Autry I. We made fun of pads. Aj still having gene autry contact. I think the cowboys isn't isn't he? Nicknamed the cowboy. Thought you jump in there with gene autry the cowboy I mean. That's that's a pretty old Democrat. I don't know might miss do gene. Autry we have you know that whole not check on it really these knee purchasing angels from the Autry State. He was very famous person at the time song and dance man. Sports royalty entertainment royalty. He was the singing cowboy there. You Go We've gotta get to this. Mystery create thing as well and billy on a couple of fronts he has. He has bagged the whale. Jose CANSECO IS GONNA. Join US at twelve thirty this. Us landing bigfoot. We finally get to ask him about this excursion that we were trying to get on with the big foot with bigfoot and the aliens and also billy has muttered under his breath before we started talking unused giveaways at g mail dot com is going about his poorly as expected. So we'll get to that next to your support for the Dan Lebatardshow Woodstock Goth. 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The show doesn't actually finish her accomplish anything. Billy was going to go on that tour with Jose could say look for bigfoot and aliens can said he could take you to them and it just fell apart like everything does with our show. We'll get giveaways gmail.com second like everything does with kids. Saco. Let's be honest. Well and so. Billy what is your state now. Are you even allowed to have some joy as a creature that doesn't do a lot of that and his always looking for the next fear or are you simply worried and Stugotz been here that two hours from now? We're going to keep building up to the Jose Canseco interview and he's not going to be there. Have a number of concerns regarding Jose Canseco interview. I will say that when the confirmation came through I was shocked and delighted that it happened then immediately I went into reality mode which is twelve thirty s such a hard time because if we miss twelve thirty we can't really put it back to any other times really to get it done at twelve thirty or there's going to be an issue and then I was going back and forth. Should I put this out on the Internet because if I put this out on the Internet and it doesn't have I'm GonNa look like an idiot or if I put it out on the Internet? Could we possibly spook him away and have them chained in mind? Okay so of course. Of course where we arrive is that he is overthinking everything. Regarding Jose can take. This is just the beginning of your fears. The right there even more here right billy. Of course yes. There's more because then let's say everything vets-go perfect and Jose does appear and he's on time and we get an interview with him. He's had a couple of things go on in his life that I'm worried. Dan May bring up at scare. Hosea ruin this relationship with how they can take. They could be putting Brenston. Hold on a second. Billy you sound just petered out there so we don't know what happened. It's part of the continuing struggles with what it is that we're doing here but go ahead and finish what it is that you were saying. Mike was able to fix it over on this end. Forgive the interruption well. I'm concerned that if Jose does come here on time and we do have him on. You like to kind of push the envelope. Sometimes some people Dan. I'm worried that you may ruin a budding friendship that we could have. Jose could save but which could take all kinds of delightful places. But he's hard to get and if you just scare them off on the first date it may not go well for us. That is excellent advice. And what I'm telling you and the audience is I will do a totally playful. No hard questions interview those they can say. Go where we just try. I've known this dude for a long time. We talked to him about once every decade. Can you explain billy to the audience? What your infatuation with Jose Canseco is why it is that you were so excited about the possibility of having him two hours from now even though you fear that possibility and think you'll probably fail before we get to that. I'd just like to say we definitely need to talk to him about the Labor situation. A major league baseball because that seems to be what he wants to talk about so at least one question about that and we'll get hoses opinion on how the players and owners should deal with that. I love Jose Canseco because he's awesome He's from Westchester. Which is where I'm from in Miami. There is Jose Consejo street right by my house until they took that honor away from him and they renamed it Sixteenth Street. They didn't even give it another name. They just a cozy as name off the street and disgraced. Yeah well you know who's to say why politics okay so you don't want me saying anything about disgrace during the center. That streets on was taken down because for whatever reason that region of our country didn't want to be affiliated with Jose. It goes name anymore even though he should be one of the proudest athletes in the history of south Florida false false. I wouldn't say that the region of the country wanted nothing to do with Jose gets bill. I'd say a couple of county commissioners wanted to grant the thing and they took his name off to the side. Well how about this? Do you WanNa do the Kaneko interview. Because I wanted to scared like I'm totally fine with you doing it as soft as you like and delight and having Jose Canseco if I may the next two hours for billy are going to be very. I think billy should do it. They're going to be very stressful. When you consider Billy's personality Dan you're so right Eh. Could SACO being a wildcard. I remember there were times with Torello age where I couldn't focus on the show. I was just praying that the for the weekly show with us that the phone would ring at a certain time every week to ensure that we would get terrell awards now if billy can handle both. I think that's absolutely the way we should go. If he can handle both sets of Straw he's already waving a Matombo finger at me and the fear has swept over him in ways that have changed the color on his face. Go ahead billy close out here. Okay you have to handle it today. Dan Because Jose consider tweeted about you and came on to talk to you now if I come in here and there. Maybe I'll be happy to do that to God can do that. But I'm hoping just between us that this could become one of those things where we say see you tomorrow. Jose and then we talked to Jose all the time and he becomes our friends. We can get everything all right. Let's continue to work this angle and see if we can get Jose. 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I and knocking to Google the price of sex dolls. Like I don't know what would be worse doing it from a home computer where my wife could see or doing it from a corporate computer where my bosses could see it sports story. It's clearly a sports story. It's one of the few sports stories we have. I think you should look how much sex dolls cost so that we can find out what kind of crime it is. We're talking about if they were indeed find. Eighty one thousand three hundred dollars as was reported because they've been doing this in South Korea. I've felt bad stugatz legitimately bad for what I believed to be the worst assignment in the History Abboud Shabbes career these one and two am and five am broadcasts of Korean baseball. Where behind home plate? There're very much fake fans. It's it's ridiculous and Boob. Boo is as narrating these games from his home in in a desolate. New York a million miles away at three and four and five in the morning and so because South Korea's one of the few places that had successfully brought back sports already as our country sort of rushing to do so and some of this stuff feels super scary. They've already got a one hundred. What I believed to be one hundred thousand dollar controversy on their hands. If they've been fine the eighty one thousand dollars. So what does a sex doll cost? I mean naked. Start on the high end high end sex dolls. Which is what. I'm assuming we're dealing with here. Roughly six thousand dollars. We'll see what I told you. It was just a guess I was. It was just. I was just assuming that you have to pay top price for that sort of thing. I want to get to billy here. I want to get back to billy because first of all there are some people saying billy that Jose Conceico is not a big get that we're making too much of this. That's right that's exactly that's right that's it like you. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You don't know anything about life or sports sir. It's a layman salt. It's when I get all the time. You don't know anything about basketball. I've never heard by it because what kind of lame salt is okay. Whatever you don't think I know anything about basketball but you don't know anything about a sport. If you don't know that Jose can say is a huge get. We've said before on this show at the time of Michael Jordan and the guy you guys are all fawning over here for the last couple of months he was a comparable star like had for for one brief minute there when they intersected because Michael Jordan was not yet what he would become. Jose can say call Michael Jordan. We're sort of neck in for biggest athlete in America. But then even today if billy came to you and said you could have Jordan. Its wealth thirty or could Saco. At twelve thirty. Who you take it. I think I take and take all I think he would. I I take take them now. Everybody would be hugely mad at me. Say Says Moore you'RE GONNA get better weird or content. We'll have Michael Jordan on and all the other the thing that will attempt to you I would imagine to. God's is that all the news agencies would pick it up 'cause twenty five years later we're talking exclusively to Michael Jordan commercial on. Espn NFL through Michael Jordan. What happened billy? Why are you waving your hands? It may be you want to defend Canseco here. There's always a chance that Jose can will say something. That news sources will pick up in this interview today. That's always a possibility true well and if our relationship blossoms from here if I don't ruin it it could be an everyday thing can take. Oh said this could Saco said now. That news source could be the national enquirer but at a new source nonetheless unless an everyday thing with good. Saco eventually is going to cost us. Maybe you did some money. I mean every day he does ask for money sometimes. I guess I'm not allowed to ask about that. Either right billy. That'll ruin the relationship. You gotTa tell me what's allowed here and what's not allowed. Jose Canseco is GONNA join us. Allegedly twelve thirty. Although billy is filled with a great deal of fear that he's not can actually make it but yesterday speaking of billy failures yesterday we were talking on this show about just mailing because he was curious. He's like why. Why all these bobbleheads and where do they go? There's no baseball these stupid giveaways go and so I asked to see if major league teams would mail to Billy. One item from their stock of unused giveaways and the email address is unused giveaways gmail.com. I talked yesterday about securing. That email is if we'd actually accomplish something that's a little we accomplish around here that getting an email unused giveaways a gmail.com felt like a triumph of the human spirit and so we asked Major League teams to contact billy for his address so they could send him stuff. And Billy says it went about as poorly as you'd expect. So how poorly did it go? Well I have not heard from a single major league team yet. I have heard from a lot of people asking me for things I've heard from people who can't keep their parts private. I've heard from people offering me their children's literally jerseys which doesn't seem like something that they should be giving away or that. I would want I've heard from different companies for sure random pieces of lumber that someone salvaged from somewhere. Just wait a minute. Billy bleep picks plural plural. I shouldn't have said that because now it's really going to start flooding in one person multiple. We update here. We update our looks like tournament necks. Though we're apart these days was sharing more at Geico. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing. Your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing. Your Diy. Haircut fails thanks for sharing your inner lip sync star. Now it's turned to share with the GEICO. Giveback fifteen percents credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers. Because we're committed for the long haul the fifteen percent credit last year full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash. Give back for more Info and eligibility if you missed any of our interviews. Please check him out on demand and the Dan Lebatardshow podcast brought to you by the capital. One saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores of one percent on all other purchases capital one. What's in your wallet? Tony Hawk and join us. Eleven o'clock eastern so about fifteen minutes from now or so. Jose Canseco scheduled to join us at twelve thirty. Billy is very afraid more afraid than even usually is you heard. Stugotz just mentioned there and but we'll get to the looks like tournament as well in a second. Hello good to hear from you more. And we've got a new looks like tournament to go to hear the nit which some of you were GonNa like some of the things in here better than even our NCAA tournament but in saying that their interviews we want you to check out my Ryan just produced a local our interview. That has just a lot of juicy stuff in it like for example that when Derek jeter was trying to buy the Marlins the only reason he was trying to buy the marlins on all he cared about was making sure that a rod didn't get the Marlins like that that's what made him of the price go up but that's not the interesting part of the interview. The interview is sprinkled with all sorts of stuff like that. But there's a payoff here at the end on a story and Mike will tell you where it is. You can find that yes make sure. Search Dan Le Batard show with Stugatz on your platform of choice by the way if you have subscribed and you just happen to be listening to us in passing and your commute's gone and you're no longer working out at the gym because of everything that's happened. Start downloading again so we can get credit for those downloads. We're doing a lot of work in its menu items so I wanted to search out this local hour but a little bit later on my social media channels. I'll put out just this story about this bus. That was almost dealbreaker for at the time. The biggest major league baseball deal. I promise you I hate doing this on the air with the overselling but this is a legitimate story. And we'll laugh. You'll find this funny and what happens to the bus. After the fact he has to be heard to our future has to involve this bus. Because of the way that this story goes we have to. We have to figure out a way to be doing things with fans of art show in and around this particular bus because of all of the grease that had to happen in order for that bus to two million dollar. John Rebuffs John Henry suffering a very big loss on something he badly wanted. That needs to be something that has lebatardshow with stugatz Jason. So we've gotTA figure out how to do that. Tony Hawk is GonNa join us here at eleven o'clock eastern as I said and Jose Canseco is going to be at twelve thirty. Get to that local hour. You'll get the payoff pretty immediately. So here is our looks like tournament Stu gods and I'm just going to be able to have time here to update a few of them but this for some reason I think. Because Billy likes to bother me is the east west region for some reason. He is called something in the looks like tournament of the look at that smile on his face he just the East West Tournament. Sure what these west region fine. Okay so the one the one seed in the east west region of the nit is represented by Terry Bradshaw looks like the Middle School janitor that air guitars with his mop that is one overall seed in the east west region playing against an eighth seed. Here who's the eight seed Russell? Wilson looks like the high school student who conveniently covers scantron from the football jock sitting next to him as he tries to cheat to the loaded. The loaded Gardner minhsiu conference. The two seed in the east west region. Garner mentioned looks like the Camp Counselor in charge of ZIP line for his eleventh consecutive year every years as last year. Acing the seventeenth. Mike Dan. Tony what's he represented by Mike? Antoni looks like an old West Sheriff. Who's hunting for horse? Bandits and leans down smells and tastes the dirt. Looks up and says they're on their way to Mexico. Seed is Rob Pelinka the Rob Lowe lookalike. Who is running the Lakers? Now the three seed in the east west region is looks like the guy who cuts in front of your family at the airport gate to ask if there's a separate lounge for diamond status members that should have been in the Victorian. You're so right about that. Although Stu gods this is pretty good for Dolphin fans many people want. I'M GONNA pause for a second and allow many of you to Google Stephen. Ross the owner of the Miami Dolphins this or that you can look at what it is that he looks like. There's been some funny stuff happening. Pandemic related where one of his companies said that no one was allowed to skip rent during the pandemic but then his equinoxes company ends up. You know slipping out on rent refusing to pay rent because of the way that rich people are fighting over money and desperation and during these times. If you've found what Stephen Ross looks like guests to God's you felt badly for Ross. There're I didn't feel badly for us. No thank you for asking. I appreciate okay. I was okay with that. Inconsistency being mocked by others but he looks a certain way. And that's the sixth seat against Rob Blanket. That certainly is Stephen Ross. Looks like a ventriloquist's dummy. It's it's very good. Does feel a little bit like he's made of wood in skin that is for a puppet this. East West reaching very strong. The four seed Matt Patricia is represented by Matt Patricia. Looks like he eats cereal out of a mixing Bowl True and finally Matt Patricia. This is just the east west region. Matt Patricia is facing Mike. Rabaul looks like he takes women to his beer league softball game on a first date is is pretty strong as gods. We've still got of course a west West region because look out. Please billy is. You're simply someone who mocks.

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30for30+ "Juiced"

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20:52 min | 3 years ago

30for30+ "Juiced"

"Welcome aboard, Delta Airlines, sit back and enjoy your flight. As you know, a good podcast can enhance any trip, but look, you're going around podcasts. Listen to some point. Luckily, delta has a huge variety of free in-flight entertainment with new movie releases straight from the theater, full seasons of top shows and eighteen channels of live satellite TV. There's something for everyone access Delta's, inflate entertainment on your seat, Beck screen or stream on your own device. Thanks for plying filter. Enjoy. Travels. Hello and welcome to thirty for thirty. Plus my name is Jody arrogant today, a hind the scenes of juice. I'm joined by Andrew MAMBO who reported and produced that documentary, which was the first episode of our new season which ran earlier this week. Andrew, welcome. Congratulations. How are you? How are you feeling? Thank you. I'm feeling good feel. It always feels nice to get it done and have it out there in the world. So weird like you publish it in all of a sudden this thing you've been living with for a long time. I don't know how how long many months for many months is all of a sudden just in the rear view mirror. It's like I kind of felt that way when I got married, I don't know if you felt this way, but like you're planning a wedding and you're getting ready all of a sudden and then just give it be party. You wake up the next morning, you're like, I mean, you're married, which is really cool way cooler than making a podcast I've so. But it's like all of a sudden it's just behind you and you're and you're just like, okay, what next year? And so that's one of my questions for lay, but let's talk about what you just did. I and you know, just to give listeners a sense, that's the basic goal of these conversations is a chance to hear about how it came together, get your. Thoughts, Andrew on interviewing Jose, Canseco, and this book that he wrote the steroids era. I think we should add a disclaimer that if anyone hasn't heard the episode yet hit pause on this. Yeah, go actually, listen. This would be a little confusing and then come back and finish this bonus episode. So we'll get into at one quick shot at the what we're here. Julia, Larry Henderson was your editor on the story. She did an amazing job. She came right off of reporting that big Bickram series and jumped right into juiced and meet your Kabuli new on our team. Did the sound design for this amazing engineering, so great work by them. So in these bonus episodes which we're going to do for every episode of the season, we'll kind of ask some of the same questions each time and the first one being. Is there any piece of tape that didn't make it into the episode that you want to highlight here? Yeah. I mean, there's there's always a ton of pieces of tape that end up on the cutting room floor, and you know, some of them, you love more than others. I think for me, I have my piece of tape that I like because. They're funny pieces of tape, but I thought one of the ones I wanted to talk about here was just the backlash, one of the things. I don't think we necessarily got into a great deal. We touch on it, but we didn't get into it. The depth of how big got was a bit of the backlash to Jose. And so after he wrote the book after he wrote the book. So the book comes out and there's this huge backlash, so so to all those things that were happening to him, here's a piece of tape that didn't make it into the episode, but was just talking about how deep the the, the backlash win. Yeah. From the book I got multiple death threats. Every time I go out, my girlfriends will tell you. People want to start fights with me. They call me a snitch. You motherfucker. You sent him. Bishop destroyed the game of baseball. I was like, what are you guys watching? So for about a here too, I had to hide really isolated after become. Hermit and then be careful. So it was a pretty tough time for me and my family. And so I decided it was it was. It was interesting to hear that because I was surprised at how much of a reaction that was that. You know people had to this, you know, he really touched this nerve with people which is like the sanctity this game that people love and hold so dear and which is weird because in a way you kind of feel like people were really surprised. They were almost just more upset that he destroyed the illusion of it. And that clip we just heard kinda gets to something we talked about a lot in reporting this and some of the editorial choices we made, which was, you know, we did want to give a sense of how big a moment this was, you know, as you put it, the sanctity of the game was in question, but it was just a huge media frenzy. There was something specifically about him. I remember us having conversations about, you know him saying, oh, I got death threats and this. And then we had, I think, long seen ones where where people were talking about the death threats they got, I mean, is that for real? Did he really get death threats over? This is the kind of thing where like if you're famous enough, you're kind of always getting death threats. You know, that was one of those where I wasn't highly sure what to believe with Jose. Yeah, no, I it was. I mean, he actually did get death threats. And specifically when he went on tour when he was on the book tour, they got very credible death threats that apparently were investigated. And I started down a path where I was looking into this. You know, there was some reporting done on it at the time, but they cancelled the book tour specifically because we're credible threats to his life on the next stop of the book tour, which I believe was going to be going to Miami ironically, his hometown, and so they had to cancel the rest of the book tour from that point onward. I know that the death threats came in through Email there. There was an investigation done. I believe the FBI was involved and they suggest they made a suggestion. The security made a suggestion, a cancel it. So, and as we show in the piece, the FBI soon, other things steroids they get involved with. But you know, I think we did do a good job and there's one of my favorite moments in the pieces. This montage of the the media immediately pushing back and that gets to one of the central. Questions may we can talk about that a little bit here is that this is a story about a very problematic messenger who has a message that happens to be particularly true. So is there anything on that front that got you thinking, and is there anything you feel like you learned about that over the course of reporting this? The one thing about Jose is that he does have this checkered past, you know, he has these domestic abuse allegations. He has had all kinds of different run ins with the law. You know, he had this bad boy image and he comes out and he does this thing that would baseball, you know, bringing all this to light and comes to congressional hearings. It ends up, you know, being the thing that Spurs on all these changes in in baseball, and you know in testing for steroids. But even though all these things in his pastor, there, he's complicated guy to wrap your head around who did this thing. That was a positive thing for the game itself and for society, but he doesn't have to be, you know, built up to be something better greater than what he is. He is this guy who was he wanted to get revenge and it was nothing more than that, like he wasn't coming into it saying, I see a problem with baseball and I wanna fix baseball and blah, blah, blah. No. He was this guy who was like, I'm mad, I'm angry. I'm gonna do this thing, and I wanna I wanna ask you a little bit about his motivations in a second because that's another very complicated part of this. But on this question of him as of complicated messenger and the backlash that he got, it's an interesting counterfactual is what if Mark Maguire had written this book, how would it have been treated? And I mean, actually, he, he kind of got his own even after he initially denies it and in front of congress, he still gets a kind of benefit of the doubt. He gets the do alike. Very teary. Eyed, sixty minutes interview a few minutes a few years later where he actually admits to doing all this and now he's back in the league and he's a hitting coach. And I mean, he's not in the hall of fame we'll, but I think history has been a little kinder to McGuire. Well, this is one. This is interesting another piece of tape that you know we didn't end up getting into in the story itself was the, I. Idea that Mark Maguire at that time was actually potentially, and I, I'm kind of cases by words a little bit was potentially going to come clean at that time. So when they were having the congressional hearings, there was talked to try and get an immunity deal beforehand and Mark Maguire was one of the players who is in conversation with the representatives on the committee about getting some sort of unity deal, and they were, you know, minutes to walk into the hearing room, you know, Representative Davis was on the phone with Alburto Gonzales. The attorney general at the time trying to get an immunity deal for these players because at admitting to using steroids, you know, could have been time in prison if they pursued it and also lion in perjuring yourself could have been time. So these guys were walking a tight rope, and apparently Mark Maguire was in conversations and trying to, you know, get a last minute. Get a last minute deal. So in this clip you hear from David Maron who was the chairperson of the house government. Reform committee that was looking into the issue of steroids in baseball. I think Mark mcgwire's answers that hearing would have been dramatically different if he'd been able to get immunity for his testimony that day. Mark McGuire will want it to help us out with that hearing anyone. He he, he, he desperately wanted to say more than he was able to say. So you hear there that you know Mark Maguire was somebody who you know, David Mary went as far as he was willing to go in terms of talking on the record and that you know saying he thought the Mark mcgwire's answers would have been drastically different if they'd have been able to get that immunity deal, which you know you can read between the lines as some kind of. Yeah, it was ready to admit this right. Think about the course of history that would have been different there. Let's go back to Jose himself them because he started to talk a little bit about it. And I think it's maybe these central question that we grappled with in this piece grapples with which is what makes Jose tick. And with this book specifically, I don't want you to answer the larger question. Well, why? Why did he write this book? What he felt that he was being in his own words, he'd been kicked out of the game and in his mind what the reason he was kicked out of the game is because he was known as kind of the poster child for steroids in baseball. His theory was that major league baseball didn't wanna put a policy in place, but what they wanted to do was if they kicked out of the league, everybody would get the message that Jose's being kicked out of the league because of steroids, the steroid use would slow down and stop in. So he felt that it was unfair that they had loved him when he was hitting home runs because of the steroids. And then as soon as they thought, well, maybe want to like figure out a way to get rid of him. They kick him out of the league and he can't get back in and he was so close to getting to five hundred. So he was just in this place where he was thinking. I think mostly he just wanted to see bud ceiling, go down. Right and tiny, Lasorda Tommy Lasorda as podcast is him, have you know, sounding off on timing, Lasorda. Okay. So we have to take a quick break, but I do want to ask you what it was like to actually interview Jose Canseco because they know you have. Some some stories, and actually the first thing I want to ask you if you have any updates on Mr.. Big the guy with the world figure tina's I'll ask you that in a minute. As you know, a good podcast can enhance any trip, but look, you're gonna run out of podcast. Listen to some point. Luckily delta has a huge variety of free in-flight entertainment with new movie releases straight from the theater, full seasons of top shows and eighteen channels live satellite TV. There's something for everyone access Delta's inflight entertainment on your seat, Beck screen or stream on your own device. All right. We are back the most pressing question. I can't believe start with this, but any updates on Mr. big. I think I read I, I did some investigative just because I was trying to figure out who who this person was, and I did some research. He's doing fine. He's still, he's still out there, you know, doing press. Okay, that's important to know. But but look, I mean, I, I will say that one of my favorite things about this story is that it is a sort of weird lens on a big story. It's sort of a small lens on a big story and we and we talked about this a lot and conceiving this. It was originally pitched this way as the story of making book, and we felt like the more it can sort of hinged to that. It's about making a book and then it happens to also be about steroids. It also happens to be Jose, can Saco. So the story of making the book is in part the story of what it's like to interview Jose Canseco because our ghostwriter Steve kept talks about that, but you did interview Jose can say, so what was that like? There was a lot of similarity. I'll say that you know, he talks about how difficult it was just to get him to sit down and talk, and I had the exact same experience. No come into town. He's like, all right. You're gonna come to my show and then we're going to see he lives in Vegas in Las Vegas and he has a show in Vegas. Yeah, he had at the time he had a show he had a show called renegades. So is him Jim McMahon, and Jimmy king and Jimmy king was in place of Terrell Owens who later joined the cast. I was at the the pre you know, the early the opening days. But yeah, he had this show in Vegas, and so after the show he wants to go and you know, go to dinner. And so we go to dinner and then it's like, all right. Well, we're going to start the next day. Get there the next day and it's, you know, kind of let me get settled. Do this, like just random stuff show me around. I also got the tour of his house, but yeah, it was. It was interesting, and so same thing he goes and he's, you know, he did talk about his back issues and so he was laying down on a couch and that's how we did all the interviews. Steve, Kevin ghost writing the book with Jose laying. Yeah. And was it wasn't his boxer shorts? Okay. Was, was it hard to keep them on task. One of the things we do with thirty for thirty podcasts, especially when you're dealing with just audios, you really need your characters to kind of tell you deep stories. Describe stuff. Was he able to do that? Was able to tell you vivid stories in that way. You know, if you talk to him about his playing career, it's all there. He can tell you details. You know, one of the few stories even tells these keep clearly remembers that series when the fans are chanting, stare Roy's steroids. But other stuff when you when I was particularly the book, anything about the book. I mean, it was like pulling teeth to try and get him to remember anything about the process of writing the book. And that's part of why we then felt like it was important to then go to the ghostwriter Steve, and also the editor Daniel in your area. And we felt like between the three of them, we got this sort of sense of how the book came together and actually there's an interest even interesting moments where they sort of all remember it slightly different than those interesting tension tension there. We should talk about Jose as a person. You mentioned it a little early. But you know, in this piece we give a decent amount of time to a person who's behaves pretty crappy ways. He's including domestic violence. And so I'm just wondering, especially in this moment in our culture, we had a lot of conversations about this internally along with our editors. How should we think of Jose and as journalist, how do you kind of grapple with doing a story about someone who has all these problems? Yeah, I think that you know, we want to tell this story, so we've identified there's a story and it's it's kind of this big picture thing, right? It's we're talking about this steroid era. You know, it had huge implications and you know the, the ripple effects been going on for years. And so going back to that point, we have to talk to this guy who is complicated character, but we don't need to put him up as you know, he's not. He's not a hero in the sense of traditional sense of where you look at a story, right? So it would be a different thing. I think if we were putting this and we were saying, here's a story of this guy who career. Originally wanted to make baseball a better game, and he did all these things and he sacrificed himself and his image and everything so that he could make the game of greater thing. What an amazing guy, what a great guy. If we were doing that story, I think it would be problematic. Yeah, but we're not. We're doing, you know, we're doing this story where we're, we're saying, look, yeah, he is this complicated character. He is the guy who you do have these mixed feelings about, but what he did for whatever motivation he did it for resulted in these things that made the game better. And we're like this big cut of watershed moment for baseball. It's interesting you're making. You're making the case that the bigness of it is a reason to tell the story which is totally agree with. But I also think in in a way the smallness of our particular lens was another thing that we talked about a lot like we're not trying to tell the Jose Canseco story that understands who he is and has to grapple with all the awful ways that he has behaved. We do acknowledge that in the part of his story. But we're, you know, we. Are trying to take the small lens about the writing of this book and how it came together. But in terms of a small slice in time as you were putting it the had this big impact, that's that's kind of what we what we thought about. And we tried to walk that line and you know, we talked a lot about this and I think it's good. I mean, we have, you know everybody. That's why you got a lot of different people on staff so we can, you know, people can raise issues and raise points and we had a lot of conversations about, should we do it and then, okay, once decisions made, you know, how are we going to do this in a responsible way. Okay. We gotta start to wrap up here, but I'm curious just you can answer this, however you want, but are there any moments either from making this or in the piece itself that you particularly love? Yeah, I think you know, you often go into these things with, you know, I think I know this, I know this thing and how does it change? And so one of the things I went into is I did a lot of interviews with people before meeting Judith and getting asking people about Judas, and everybody's telling me all these stories, how tough she is, how all this stuff. Finally, when I get Judith to greet to interview, she, she doesn't like she's not difficult. I don't force it. She's like, all come to you. So she comes to meet with me. We sit down for an interview. She's one of the nicest people I've ever interviewed. Super sweet afterwards. We're leaving it. She's like, oh, are you leaving to like, yeah. So I'll wait for you. We'll walk to the subway together. We had like a beautiful nice chat. So that was one of the things that really surprised me was I was kind of set up and I remember even going into that interview every. Nobody was saying, are you ready for Judith? She's absolutely lovely person speak if tape that didn't make it in. We had a whole section where there was this big Judith Regan. Devil wears Prada competitive comparison, and we have tape from devil wears Prada and actually some of the stories that people talk about and the editor talks about seeing devil wears Prada and thinking that person's total pushover compared to my boss two three. Again, I remember when the movie several wears product came out and I was like, that is the softest office I've ever seen. I could retire to go work for that that looked so cupcake. And so in some ways I think she's just a better than TV could ever right. She is this legendary figure who played his full documentary on her on her own merits. But you know, we get to include her in ours. All right. So Andrew, this was really fun. Thanks again for doing this. Thank you for having me and listeners. One quick plug, Andrew, and I were recently on ABC daily news podcast. Start here talking about the stories if you wanna hear more. About the making of juice checkout start here from our friends at ABC. And as I said, we're going to continue to do bonus episodes for each episode this season next week. It's the two thousand three World Series of poker. Then we'll do something about a protest at the New York City marathon then with Henderson than Hideo Nomo. But for thirty for thirty podcasts super fans out there. You may know that I do these conversations with filmmakers every once in a while and we have moved those to a new feet. So if you wanna hear those conversations or find those conversations, you can just search the SPN films in whatever podcast app you like, and you will find those, but you cannot stay subscribed to this feet. All right, Andrew. Thank you again, get some sleep and you said you're onto the next thing. You already know what's next. We have some ideas. I'm still there's like a big project that I'm going to keep pushing forward on and maybe for next year. Yeah, but we're always taken ideas. You can Email engine. Dot MAMBO at ESPN dot com. That's correct. 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Bigfoot Hunting, Jesse McCartney, and How Many Miles of Sex

KFC Radio

1:17:31 hr | 2 years ago

Bigfoot Hunting, Jesse McCartney, and How Many Miles of Sex

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Yeah. Just one of those days, man, they go. What's happening depression is just makes him with your Colt? This gone. Depression is kind of like taking back over. It's almost like you were you're too sick to be depressed, and you're healthy and the Russians back. Yeah. It was like it was a very odd morning. It was just like God, I feel fine but feel worse because kids really gonna kill himself one day. Going to kill Bigfoot versed. Well, me you Jose gins Saco. We'll see who's going to walking get who's going to take down the yeti the abominable snowman he he must've just discovered like such a unique business model for himself. I bet he didn't realize how many calls who's gonna so Jose can Saco put out a tweet that said come spend the day with me go on a big foot excursion and an alien excursion with Jose can Saco contact Morgan management, and he puts the number and then he says come spend the day with me and my alien buddies. I'll show you a big foot and a real alien call Morgan. So if you text this phone number, if the Texas, I think, you can call it you can text it whatever the response was spend the weekend with Jose for five thousand dollars cash only five lucky individuals will get a golden ticket who balloon POS ain't got nothing on Bigfoot travel in his customer vita and authentic site. So Jose can Saco. He just learn. Learned that people are willing to do dumb shit with quote unquote celebrities now to me Jose Canseco is a fucking rockstar. He's a messiah he is a bash brother. He is a Royd monkey. He is Mr. hugs for you. He is he is all that is you've got a mullet and shit. He is. Baseball because he he lost his mind before as profitable, lose your mind. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't crazy when it was just like you couldn't really make money off. It was just like people laugh at a month with it. Whereas now, you lose your mind on YouTube star you're fucking number one on the charts. You make you monetize that show. Jose. You think you're crazy Jose's? He's crazy for the love of the game. And even in the exposure is crazy to be crazy. I mean, when you got that much fucking steroids running through you from twenty five years ago, and you got you got like anger and resentment running through. But also, you're trying to make ends make amends, and you're trying to be hoped Mr. hugs for you. I mean, there's all a whirlwind going on Mr. Seko's. I mean, he lost his thumb. Right. Why didn't he like like cut off his thumb or something entirely possible? This is like zone, you believe anything. He's thumb incident. I don't know if you lost the thumb, but there was a thumb incident. Where like the thumb was lost. It might have been reattached something happened with those like I feel like we talked to Mike studt about. I've probably loses finger during poker game. Sure. There. It is. Yeah. That's sunny shit the basement like like he put it up his anti and the at off one of those Vietnamese guys he accidentally shot off his finger. Biggest home totally make sense to. Yeah. Mike studies. His well was was was like, you know, son-in-law situation not anymore though. But he always said that Jose was like the nicest do in the world like a real cool cat. Like, that's a guy Jose, you'll probably try charges five thousand dollars. But we'd love to have you on this tweet from two thousand fourteen damn I was playing in a poker tournament last night and something crazy happened to my finger that I shot off and they put back on. Well. Well, we're goes. Let me this twenty four teams. Should that goes viral is all round I was just that back. Then it was like the the world hadn't been like Trump hundred and two likes. That's not that would be that'd be like half a million. I hope I die yesterday. I got like. A single opinion. We should just pay this and go with zooms and fucking have podcast. Oh should. I mean, five thousand bucks for what I mean. That'll be one and read as as far as I don't think it's that I think as far as like, we've always had pretty low overhead here case, right? We we've backed a good amount of money. Give us five grand to go. Fuck and we sponsor off that list. We'll make money on. I don't think we've ever pay like cost the company anything other than like if flew somewhere like, and even then those are things we were told to go on right? We've never been like, hey, we want to go here. I paid for John. And Dan to come to Casey radio one hundred right? We paid for the fuck it helicopter for the Saturdays for the boys. That's right. Yeah. We're in the whole. You resnick. We ran. We just want to go hunting camping with Bigfoot with fucking Jose can Saco honestly who wins in a fight. Jose can Saco reut it up with a bat versus Bigfoot. Go the supernatural creature. Also, Jose me too. That dude you kidding me. He's not human seriously if you took prime steroids Jose Canseco with a bat. I think it's a fair tilles close. I think it's fair fight. Here's a question for you. Who wins in a fight Bigfoot or a grizzly bear? Because if you think about it, if you're adding like some human to the grizzly bear, basically, you're almost like making them less. I think you're making it less powerful. Right. Yes. Yes. I think a grizzly bear anything that's slightly humanoid is probably going to still lose to full blown animal. I would agree with that. Unless we just don't know about it, wouldn't let's it's like the absolute strength of a grizzly bear rain and the rain CEOs. I can say a full human would have shot. He's way more than human. He's super you on the steroids on the steroids. He's a fucking alien which we're also going to be chasing. I think a full blown steroids ROY narrow interest. Finally, what's that? Oh, that's the Lance Armstrong. It's no it's so poorly pick because I was gonna say I don't I I've heard about this and don't go fuck about like, oh, that's not what it is annoying. Everyone thinks that where it was. It started off is that it started off as this guy. He just wants to. I it's called the route route like a HA UT, and it's like the it's the most difficult amateur bike race in the world. It's basically the the hardest parts. Gimme a second. It's the hardest. Parts of the tour de France all in a around hall in seven days that he wanted to do at one year where he is. Clean and then juice for year and do dirty. What happens and see what happens, but that's only ends up being like, twenty minutes of the whole fucking thing. Because the guy he decides to juice with like these like, he had a friend that UCLA was like, I can't help you juice because it's like, you know, I'm this is my job. And it will know my job is to catch juicers. He works like Ouaga. He's like, but I know a guy who will help you. So he introduced him to this brushing, dude. Gregory Roma Chang. Cough course. Right. And then that dude was the guy at the center of all the Russian Shelley the Russians went out of the Olympics. And all that said this was the dude at the center of it and like all his colleagues start dying. So they're trying to get him out of Russia and they're sneaking around. It's awesome. It's so sick. I mean, he he was he was just technically like the number one drug dealer in the world. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Coke slinky in drug deal. Yeah. It was like the shit. They did man was first of all it's crazy. All Olympics wanted to win gold medals on. Stage. They had a had an embarrassing showings in. Couvert was Russia a wild, man. We can't do that again. So we have to we have to go all out. Yeah. Like, they got caught on were disqualified for the whole thing, but not in Sochi coachee. They socially across so g they they lead the medal Cal angle medal count, and the I'll give a fuck about GD and Olympics. I tip my cap. Oh, yes. Me too. It was it was not only were they told usually when they when they did drugs. They would at least like try and get clean tests. This will like they were like we're going to piss dirty. Will we what we're trying to figure out how to get how to get get switched the piss out? All right. We don't even care about trying to test clean are pissed will be thirty. We're trying to figure out how they're. There. Yeah. Yeah. And so they had like this crazy like the FSBA was involved in it. And it was like it was it was wild. And then this you see like the real life repercussions of it all like Putin went to war over who. In started a war because they his his popularity was up after the Olympics. I got the cloud. I can I can send them to spare. He was like he was like a ninety percent popularity rating after Olympics, and he's like fucking bomb the Ukraine. Let's go. And this guy was like, I feel really bad. I didn't know that was going to have. Yeah. Right. I didn't do my job as well. Like, the Ukraine wouldn't have been bombed. Are these guys like protected, I wouldn't pay you know? I don't want to spoil it for. Yeah. But Bigfoot anyway, Bigfoot I want. Dr you. Yeah. I've had enough. I mean. He's got good. You got it physically. Have it? I I have. I know I know I know how I can get are you a buyer. You have to get. I'm going to try to get a prescription. Doc, what if you don't get a prescription. I will also it like normal stars where you do have to work out like or is it just you probably just spontaneously grow must. I'm sure pretty sure you're sure you got to work out. But what about that also of the plane in the ass literate? Like like watching like watching this guy. Do it inaccuracies. Yeah. It's like you're doing science on yourself. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just like shoot up once a week guys got like notebooks. And he just went up. He knows how to do it. But that'll be great. I just I feel like I would work out if I was on H H because I think this is easy fucking. It's gravy, a superhero, you think that's what H does. Yeah. I do the weights lighter. I think that I think that like the hurdles I face they'll get eliminated. I'll get out of bed. Yeah. It is. Did you see Barry Bonds? Did you see what he was doing? He was working out. Yeah. I'm gonna work out, bro. Okay. I will work out. If I have, you know, an illegal substance, helping me. Should absolutely be legal, humid, human normal. Let's fucking the cycles. Maybe by the way, the I wanna do the the big thing really bad because I've I've been scorned before by professional baseball player who told me we could go hunting Bigfoot and then back out that fucking little pussy. Why did he back out? What was I forget? Why does Royal was like, let's go hunting dozen is he's a believer. He's a Jose trying to grab some cash does patrol is trying to catch. Big Dustin gets a very annoyed when you ask about because it's like it's like asking him what caused the skies. Are you talking about? It's real. He has quotes with rob Bradford from where he just like you could tell he's very heard. It was like well I wanted to write it was when I was a kid. My dad wanted to show me when you drive through the Redwood tree and all that stuff. They had a big like a sasquatch AMAN museum. They got photo the sasquatch they had all kinds of stuff, man. So I bet on the search, man. Google some things Bradford told Padilla Bradford during Monday's podcast. This isn't like a made up creature. That's like twenty feet tall. This isn't a movie. Okay. Rob this is real life man out. There gotta as your body frame. Bradford's big, dude. I don't have time to argue with you how come in late nineteen eighty Washington had a big foot on the unlike their state deal. Joyous bradford. You know, like, welcome to California. They got the yellow flower thing. Welcome to the sunshine, say whatever wash it has a picture of big for his rob. How come they had that rump? Rob, man. Very very annoyed discussing it. Like, this is such a stupid thing. Why why are we talking to humans exists? Yeah. I mean, we're here. Rob why we talked about this? Yeah. Where do you think can say go is hunting aliens because like? But we put Georgia's Dave we were gonna go in Rhode Island to find sasquatch joy things, they're everywhere. Well, that usually that's that's like depends on where you're at like the abominable snowman is big foot. But he's in the Andes or some shit like that and up in the Pacific. The west is big foot and in Canada sasquatch and over there. It's the yeti they all have different names of the same thing. But it is kind of all over the place. Drill padres. Silly. He's like, yeah. You got a spot. I know that he does he say he's seen one. I don't believe he's ever seen one. Remember sure, I mean, he's on the state deal. Kevin do you? How what like nobody could put something on a fucking slow signing tourism wanted people to come here and look for we'll do you believe. Fan. My heart-to-heart snow, right? But I'd like I wanna believe right. And I do think that there's every chance that there's like some undiscovered species and shit. But like that I mean, can you imagine being the dudes, and like whatever that was the fifties sixties, whatever who have that picture, you know, the one where he's like walking arm swinging like the imagine if you were the guys who states that picture, and you're like, we created a international meth. Yeah. It's like legend. It's like the twelve disciples and then us. Yep. Right. As far as they may Jesus we made. Supers and all time. I mean, how are you the hendersons the TV's movies said, you know, fucking tourism sales, desperate joy of they could Saco by be so pissed like a lot of that shit. Man. I also feel like by now you like I'm surprised they haven't really upped their hoax game. Like, I'm surprised there's not somebody out there in like some serious special effects movie type shit run around every now and then in the Pacific northwest. Just so there's a couple more pictures that float float around. Shot with easier. Then. Yeah, right now now it's like technical there too. Many people who are good at it back. Then there weren't many people who are good at faking stuff. Like right now. It's like, it's a real profession right back that it was you know, you tip over canoe. Hold up a stick. It's block. That's monster. Everyone's like, I don't I don't know what it could have been. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's I mean, the lock ask monster. I wanted definitely that that should as fake as fuck. I mean, it's just there's a lake is fucking very finite space. You can check that lake. And there's nothing in there. It's not in there. Yeah. But I think it's I think it's divas lake in the world. Right. It's one of those things where you know. We've never been to the bottom shit. I believe so that's a different story. I feel like we should be down there. It was just drain it. Let's just like fund fucking. They can get ill to wall. We can drain this leg. And then we'll just put waterbed gamy like we've checked the drains fucking. Back in the die. Shout out to the Loch Ness monster. Let's do some voicemails. We got Jesse McCartney coming up also out right now. Anssi internet, featuring Andrea savage. She was the first girl she we recorded it before we put before Camille. So Andrew was the first girl to ever do it. And tonight. Is I don't know. I don't wanna promise anybody. We have several to choose from. So find out which which video is being edited right now. But you don't the deal. Tuesdays and Thursdays. Nine o'clock is answer the internet and me and final. Br goal. 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They should sell tickets to Jose can Saco tracking Bigfoot that would be some live events. I hope that this is like a reality show. They're filming the best at least like on his YouTube pay five five grand for that times. Five people. Much. You know, you should shouldn't limit. It the Fibro. But I guess it's all about the hunt. So who knows maybe when they can buy tickets to Jose can say go hunting Bigfoot for right now. Yearly seal team. Yeah. Yeah. Right. I get that. But it's like you're only gonna make twenty five grand mended. Sneaky tickets you buy with that though. Because it's the most affordable secondary market in the game. Takes all the tickets. Available puts him in an easy easy to read chart talking about tickets to sporting events to concerts, live comedians, live music, live music, musicals plays, the whole nine Broadway. All of it. Ever. Ticket is guaranteed real, though, fraudulent tickets and every ticket is graded based on the value. 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But I if my friends like try to tell me what to do or anything, you get the fuck outta here. Would you know, you're just my friend? Fred's with me your fucking. You're an idiot. Yeah urine. If I if I had to have sex with her we'll show. No that right. Like like because this is the thing. I very much think hotness wears off. And I think it wears off pretty quickly. Not in the sense that like, you know, you shouldn't totally be mailing it in like, I don't even I'm not attracted this person anymore. But you go on on a couple dates with someone who's hot. And you're like, oh my God. Like, I want to get this girl naked I wanna have sex with her. I want to look at her. I wanna touch her. I love you know, what I mean that I think for most adults goes pretty quickly. I would agree. I think you get in a relationship, you really like the girl you start to see your more or maybe I should say you take it for granted. You know? Okay. So I my first thought was like, you know, I'm not going to be thinking twenty four seven about. Oh my gosh. She's so hot, and I'm not going to be. So if she is this. This your leg by those you take for granted often. But then movie naked or something. Oh, yeah. I forgot. But I think like if you were to do this on a reasonable scale if somebody like if you were dating somebody they gained weight. No. I don't think you would notice are you might notice. But you don't care just like used to be hotter. You put on some pounds. It's not you're you're no longer like exactly what I want. But I don't even think I think I noticed. I don't even think you have that conversation. Like, you know, ideally, what I would never say even my here. Yeah. I have that. Right. So that's my point is that you know, these things can kind of change. But for the sake of these psych, these hypotheticals we are talking like, she's disgusting. Because if it was just like, oh, she's no longer at ten, but everyone thinks she is signed me up. But yeah, I don't know if like every time, you know, we hit the bedroom. If I'm supposed to envision like a four hundred pound homeless, girl. If it's if it's shallow Hal situation. I never understood that though because it's a visual thing. But like when you touch her she's not fat. They kinda shallow Hal supposed to work when it's like, she's physically a skinny person. Or no way. What was she shoes you physically fat? So like when you go to torture, and you feel like this fit body that that there's a loophole in that there's a problem. That's like when she tosses underwear gigantic. Yeah. So I mean, if I if we're playing straight. Shallow Hal rules, when we go to bed if I would need to like lift her fat roles and stuff, if I'm being honest, probably not can't do it can't do it. But if we're just talking like, she becomes ugly, and but not like a freak show. I really want others to think that she's on the outside. Perception is always always what matters. I mean, I don't know why he's laughing. I don't know why that was a joke. What other what other people think about? Count. No, it's it's what other people think about us. The most important thing in the world. The only thing that really matters perception, I'm cheers. Perception is reality. You could be like the nicest, I could be a really nice person and people don't believe you. They think should have you. And that's it. You're an asshole you could be you. You could be perfect and one rumor or one bad example, or one person doesn't like you. That's it. You're nestled everybody, and like, I don't even care to know their opinion on the person, I want to know that they know does that make sense I want I don't wanna hear it to my own ears. But here like rumors someone saw you last night with weapon, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not talking to you. Yeah. I mean, I I think that the I think probably psychologically in general hotness is all about showing off and not be yourself behind closed doors like I like it. But again, there's been there's been girls who are hotter that I liked less than girls who were less hod. And you know, what I mean, it's that's that's all that's all mental and relative type shit the, but but being cool perception. And has since you're since like, you were younger. Like when I was younger like hotness. Used to matter more, you think? Might be swinging back. The other way right now. No. I think if anything maybe the opposite. I think maybe when I was younger I was a little more like, I'll take whatever. Good. And now, I think it could be a little more. Tuesay's up. Probably sounds like an asshole. But no, I don't think. So I I I don't know where I stand on that anymore. I know when I was younger, it was definitely. Like, no, actually, I don't I don't know. I think I've always been the same. I know I always hot anybody. I never I I used to be pretty. I guess as much as I was like beggars can't be choosers. I never really my my always said to myself. I could go back in time. I would tell younger me like hookup more girls. Who cares if she's not like as hot as you think or? We used to always say, no, I think it's well worth the experience. I think it's like always a do it for the story situation. I think that you just naturally become more comfortable it with dating and talking to girls and hooking up men. It's practice. It's to me. It's like reps and like an experiences. It's like I'd rather how many times I just like stumble home with my friend blacked out drunk rather than you know, why don't I just like girl out or hook up with her the ball or go home with her whatever. I guess if you're looking for the story, I would say I would say getting more trouble. I got it a significant amount. I would still say get more trouble. But so you're saying the story is not about hooking up to you the snow because like. Like shit. The I've I've hooked up with, you know, less than trying to feel and there's never a good story there. It's just awkward sex. And you don't really like at awkward second. But it's like chaotic night you better story. That's fair. Yeah. I do think better stories are not just like hookup stories, but I don't even necessarily mean like do for the story for like your buddies to lake like story time, I think of like I used to think about blogging, and and when I was working from home, and I moved to Hoboken, and I wasn't going out anymore. It was just like dropped the baby off pick the baby up right in between never really leave the house and as as as happy as I am just be team indoors. It'd be a homebody. I was like I don't even have like my commute anymore for stories or inspiration. Like, you see shit on the subway. You see shit on your walk. You things happen to you the more that you just do it. So like more in that sense where it's like go home with her hook up with her. See what happens maybe she's talking incredible in bed. Maybe she's so bad in bed. You do have a story or maybe the boyfriend comes in. And you gotta run or just just like live and say, yes, rather than no. Because the alternative is just like a few more shots, tequila or stuff your face with pizza and like who. Cares. If she's not cutest, then you can get in trouble. John wants to go to jail. I wanna get laid Casey radio style. What's up boys so gratin breakfast? My girlfriend stumble across an interesting question for you guys. We we were just wondering how how many miles you think you guys have had sex in your entire life. Yeah. But they don't guys. Yes. No, I love his first of all so forgot. So I like first of all I just loved this whole this whole setting like me, and my girlfriend have breakfast. And we're talking like these two are hug overeating like pancakes, and she's like to ask Johnny, Kevin, you're an idiot. And then as he asked that I was like this is so convoluted to hear the girls speak of him. Now, you're wrong is so fucking perfect. So let them finish up. I guess. Yeah. I don't know if that exactly works, but it made sense earlier. It makes more sense. If you think about how many miles have has it grow risk. So I I guess valley. Would you rather have well mile now, we're doing? Sure. But then when she's that. Well, basically doing your show for you today. Couple of the year. These guys give free t shirts free tickets, whatever get at us. If you're this couple. So for a girl. I mean, I guess it's like you think about like riding a horse like every time you like up and down it's because a horses trotting along. And so how many miles would that be? I don't think that many miles. I would guess how many miles. I mean. I think it depends on how many people you fucked. But even if you do it's like a few minutes long, and you're only generally on top for a portion of the time. I I would guess a woman is on top. Three minutes right per session. I'm not almost hop guy myself Ray. Tommy, maybe I'm a top guy. But I'm like, okay. Like, it's time for you to come get yourself off. You know what I mean? How do your thing? I you know, it's such bullshit. How much work we have to do. I don't mind it. But I think I think we get taken for granted. Yeah. Do mandatory for granted in in the bedroom for sure white men, so underappreciated. I feel like I mean, you know, maybe it's just I'm just horribly shape too. But we wrap up and I'm like guest, and she's just like. Well, you didn't fuck it do anything all right amount of breath of sweating. Go carries a border because all you do is you sit there on your hands and ease for a little while the I tend to agree with that. Whereas like. Who's more in shape? You should be doing all the work come on. It's probably more. Just just me. I mean, there is nothing. I'm like shit. You know, like when you're holding. It will be like shaking like I've shaky for entirely different reasons. I'm not shaking because I'm in euphoria. Right. I'm shaking because I my arms are tired. And I just physically exerted myself to you, and you know, you have that like sex strength. And then when you come. Everything's cramps up everything gets week you realize like oh shit. I've been holding myself up. I've been doing like a plank for like four minutes when I finish sex. I am like. It's like a hangover movie type scene like he just woke up, and I'm like, my cry across the bed. I'm most I'm so loud. I was gonna say. I was going to say I'm like Seth Rogan it sooner badly. Live through it is so true. The the theatrics that that are put on I don't know. It's probably so Barrasso, like, I hope that girls aren't having that like post nut clarity with me where they're like. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like, I just put this guy in the fucking in like, a it's a respiratory failure. Jesus Christ pal. Let me to which is the worst. Boy is I I don't have a quick long turnaround time you wanna fuck again. I don't want my body back. Yeah. So I will if I lay in bed naked I keep continually in bed naked in like three minutes. Good for you show. Not good to give them a close icon right away. So it's such. Don't have sex again. I like me up right away. All right. That's it. That's it. That's it gives them. I buy fuck again. I mean, I do so usually ideal, but it's not happy about. You gotta get on top of this time because this is all about. He might be he might be back to life. The rest of me is not dead. Then I it's it's awful. I wish is about my worse enemy. I can't even begin to describe two girls at least for myself. And it sounds like you're in agreement the diminishing returns from multiple sex sessions. You fall off such a fucking cliff after number one, I'm like at least at least I'm good for a little while. You know, what I mean like I that second round to me is a fucking chore. I is I feel the responsibility. That's what I'm saying. It's I I'm like, I think I'm supposed to have sex with you again. I think that's what is hot. I think that's what it's cool. I think that you wanna come again. I I absolutely right myself. I look at that, dick. I'm like, my my dick, and my blood flow has betrayed me yet. Again, you mother fuckers they're gonna make me do this again, aren't you? And I wonder though, I would love to hear some girl was always was you know, the girl next to me is like. I guess hard again. I guess I gotta fuck them. Big, listen, it's okay. Not every hard dick needs to be fucked. Okay. This will go away. Don't worry. I do that too. When I see I don't go out here is like most mostly girls, I slept with. It's like, you know, like see them for I go see them for a weekend. They come see me for you smash up the whole time, and I don't wanna do that. Yeah. No do that. All and it's just like, oh, yeah. We didn't get out of bed all day Saturday. I wish we did. Right. It's like fuck in farmers market. Right. I would have loved to have. Let's go see you play with you. I heard there was a great exhibit at the museum. Instead, we fucked four times I feel like when you hit four I think it's like one I wanna sex too. I'm like folic diss three I want to like kill you. But then I think you hit like four into five and you start to get like kind of record. Yeah. Kind of cocky with boy, I haven't done this seventeen that kinda shit. What do you think? Like oh. By the way. I can't even answer this question. I know it you ten miles a thousand miles. I was thinking of it for a guy kind of like we thrusting almost like riding a bike. Uphill. I got it. Chris on the motto. Yeah. On the mountains like that. And I don't know how I don't know. How far I would go. I would imagine not that far. I mean think about just like five minutes of cardio. How far do you? Go. Not that far. Now biking biking, you go pretty far pretty well. You're not on a bike though. I know what you mean. It's the most by the bike is rolling on wheels. If that motion was you ought to bike that I think he would go pretty far, I think it's more like cross country skiing. You get a little bit of glide. But for the most part, you're like step for step your move for move. Okay. And if I cross country ski for five minutes like once a week for fucking. Yeah. I I still don't know the answer. Like a couple of months, I thought they meant when I listen to this. I I thought they meant like inches ridden. Oh, no. I took it to me more traveling like cardio wise. All right. Let's move them. All I know is that for like three years three years. I was in dead. Stop traffic. I didn't go anywhere. Bites me for a long time. Adequate. Would you rather? Would you rather have your face never age and your body in aging or your body never eat in your face continued aging? So. Eighteen and he started then you're eighteen your body. Keep Beijing until your dad and does your interested in that same. If you're aging part either twice as fast. So it does all your face stays young or your body ages twice as fast your body says younger face ages twice as fast keep face keeping face. You're going to have a fat grows body just what are really do. I mean, I think this question do I think this question is very different for girls. And guys, I think that girls you can do make up you can do all sorts of shit with your face to try to preserve it. I think when the body goes the body goes, very obvious. You know, can't can't hide fat. Really you can hide your wrinkles, but aging aging by doesn't mean getting fatness discernibly. I mean, I guess not. But it does Russ leave means more Brinkley and stuff like that. I think it means a droopy rather than a fat. Well, John have you been looking at us. We're getting fatter as we get older. So, but if I if I knew I would take I would take precautions if I knew my body was getting if I if I knew that it was on. No, it was eighty nine news aging double I would be like, okay. I have a sickness. I that's how I would. Oh, get motivated because you give yourself a disease, I know press. Now, you don't do anything about a disease. Now, I've been working on that. I promise you would not work out. If even if you had a double double fast disease. I think I would. All right. Well, good for you. But I I think I would take. All right. If you're taking a fat, I'll take I'll take the face to. I'll keep my face. I think to properly age twice as hard. You'll be getting fatter in which case, I think I'd rather have an old face. I think old guys can still fuck. That's true. What like say say I had say, I still have my hair say, it was a silver, FOX. But I had like. Drink Lee skin. I still think I could fuck. Yeah. The I guess old guy. That's why guys and goes toward different guys age and get distinguished. That's a patriarchy shit. And that's great. Yeah. I think I have no reason to even try to get in shape. I I don't think there's an older guy in Hollywood who. I mean, granted it's Hollywood. But there's an older guy in Hollywood who girls aren't lady Gaga for right? And then that trickles down. So we're not Hollywood, but we're regular guys. And it's just like I have no incentive to try to get better. Looking or me every time. So. Yeah, look anyway that right? Yeah. Worst case scenario, you look like that fucking guy. I just feel like the the amount the margin here the increase if I were to get in shape. Change. I think you're getting in shape, though. I'm just saying in general, though, lake like to to meet for me to like worry about my body. And my looks like pretty pointless. Yeah. No, that's true. There's there's nothing I do now that I couldn't do right shape. I don't think had nothing you can do when you're in better shape. Yeah. You can do now or it's just like the girls who are like you are going to like you kind of for other reasons. Anyway, doesn't affect your job doesn't forever did say pretty mediocre like very skinny fat. But life. Let's do an ad read here because we are gross. And we do need all the help. We can get. We gotta get fat fifth phone in our life, baby. I'm pretty sure if that fit fund wants us to be talking to the girls, we have a high listenership of females and fab fit fun is a traditionally female type of product in the beauty world, and in the fashion world, and for me, I like you. But that's what I'm saying is like I think that there were like all right? We're gonna have these guys don't the girls. It's like, no, no, no. We're gonna start everybody. 'cause I got some masks on my desk right now, I got a fun thing. So I got this pen. Now, John it's a pen pencil, and I just color in my dark spots on my is it's like a makeup pencil. I guess there's draw on my eye. Then I rub it in makes my eyes look not as bad. Yeah. I'm not gonna shoot you straight makes them look not as bad. I got these. I love those fucking masks charcoal. I do those things way too often. I think I do them to the point that it's like bad for my skin do this once a month. I'm like all right twice a night. Repented my face off. I love all this stuff. So I say treat yourself, but you know, maybe you're not as beta as me, and John maybe you can get it for the lady in your life. Get a girl for your mom. Your sister Valentine's Day after it is Valentine's Day, and you at this point it's too late. But you can have like a makeup call like all right? Yeah. I forgot to get you something about it'll be there next week and. It's an awesome care package. I mean, you get everything from beauty products too little fashion must have and you can do it. 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Let's keep moving. They have the by Sheboygan dirty Mon here dirty. The other night who normally dirty modal friend, and I are both drunk and win bed together. That's the my the real free kit starts to come out. And I'm pretty sure it's like a normal thing. But the other night, I went to the buzz, and she just stayed on whether friends, and I ended up sleeping over there after I went out, and I was blacked out. And we started hooking up or whatever. And in my mind, I'm blacked out. So I'm doing my normal like freaky shit. But I don't even want to mention the things that I was saying to her like after like Booker roommates pinch it, and so she's like giving me shit about it like the following days. And I just wanna know like 'cause it kinda pisses me off like the right to be his like unmentionable or I can just be like like your fucking weirdo because like when she's drunk, and we're doing it like, it's all good. We don't talk about it. But. I guess it's a little different when I'm black juice over. Let me let me just tell you right now if you bought barstool golds. Or if you haven't bought it yet by it just just strictly for John's face right there that like he was the most genuine thing in the world. I don't think I didn't see that coming. I thought he was gonna be like, you know, I tried to like I was playing with her bud or I was saying like I was calling her a slaughter something too far. I'm trying to fuck. A roommate. That was like nobody is. Man. Fucking meaning dude. Yeah. Yeah. Man. I mean now, here's the thing. What are we talking about? Why are we even hear what what's the question, sir? The only thing I will say is if if when she's drunk they do talk about like fucking other girls like if that is their kink, it is a little different. If it's just totally out of the blue doesn't agree. I agree way. It's not good. I'm just saying I'm gonna give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe that's one of their things. Like, they they wanna have a three summer they have threesomes, and they talk about it. But either way when we're weird thing. Like this talk about threesomes all the time. Well, I mean, it doesn't happen. I don't know. I'm making. I'm just trying to get it through. Let seems like she's like, yeah. Like we. She doesn't she's drunk. Your thing is just talking about fucking. Well, I could see that too. Those people don't have the balls to pull off to actually do with three this weird dirty talk. Like, I wish roommate was here. He's here. Manch shits creek. I mean, either way though, even if she does talk about it sometimes or this is your thing or even if you have fucked the roommate's like when she's sober, and or the roommate or the third girl or whatever, and this is a political situations on around, you you you have to treat that girl. As such even if you had three or four like, we we have voicemail like a month ago with the fell asleep, and they finished, and it was like she was engaging in a threesome. But then got mad at the guy was having sex with the girl because she passed out because if she's not a part of it where she's not in the same level as you are. She will be mad, right? Of course. I actually I joked about three some sober. Does. That thing is funny. But like, you see how waitress and you'd be a yo you won't wanna take about being serious or sexy about it like, oh, boy, she'd be fun bed. Right. Right. Right. Right. That's a little balloons you with the reaction. Maybe maybe get something. Unexpected. Also, this is I think it's just funny because I know I couldn't do it. So like, it's really like wanna see me fail. But the when your drug when you're drunk if you're round so where people you have to act sober. That's the rule whether their sex whether it's work, whether it's friends, whatever if you're drunk and everyone else ready use over pretend you're sauce think about all the things like you can't you can't be the same person sexually as we just saw. You can't you can't go like picking a fight or something like that you're drunk and ready to fight and everyone's sober. No. You can't be you can't be the one like jump through the beer pong table. When everybody's just sober drinking wine, all the activities, you do when you hit blackout drunk are only acceptable with everyone else is black right? When you're in. It's like acting like a kid amongst kids. Right. When you're in a dining room, man. If you're if you're yeah. If your kid's preschool, whatever you are in the play pen. Right. Fox, bro. With a bunch of adults don't jump with that play pin? Right. Because there's something wrong with that person. Just you always it's always just do everything that the general public is doing follower. Do not be a leader. Do it all your friends are doing jump off that bridge if they're so Barack sober if they're drunk actor on its that's it. I really to be honest. I don't ever. I don't ever get drunk. The only time I will be the only person drunk is if I'm drinking by myself. Okay. If I'm hanging out with you or something like that. And you're like, I'm gonna take it easy tonight. I'm not just going to like sit there Rippin. No. Forum to your society, you know, to your I won't I will around ripping bells. I'll have like if you're not drinking. I guess love to it through drinks. Yeah. I know definitely. I'm not saying I'm not going to drink. But I'm just saying I would stay on the same level as like the people that you know. That's why it's always like, I did I tell us sort of podcast when I say that. But that's not true. Then you get drunk. There's sometimes just a slip. My my problem is always like if I've been drinking. We're all in an agreed upon drunk situation. And then someone new comes and they're sober. And it's like, well, listen, I didn't sign up for this. I you know, what I mean. Like, I totally embarrassed myself in front of my Buddy's girlfriend because she came in halfway through session. And I was like, well, I'm on eleven. Yeah. You tell you that you like look I'm coming right? No. No. You're you're coming into this is in the green zone. No, this is there is a firefight happening right here. You got to be prepared. Right. Right. Like stop off get yourself some MO. Yeah. Maybe get your right? Himself. Right because we are all now. Now you being the older ones. The problem not us being the drunk ones. Right. Get on my level or just don't judge me accordingly. That's why I smell last Westfield today is brought to you by Robin Hood, the investment, athletes you buy sell and sell stocks ETF's options. Cryptos? 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That was a very funny voice mail. Very funny situation. I did not expect that to be the question. What do you right back right back? No, dude. That's not a mill fem fucking. It's just my mom to the movie with my mom. Yeah. I don't know got to clear that up real quick. What does the other answer you let let her think that you're fucking? So so the next time that you are on public people are going to yell at her to her Joyce fucking that girl and someone's gonna make. That's Joe's mom, right? Because I heard you I already he's fucking her like at the movies. I on your motherfucker. I've played that game before where you what did he finish? I've played that game before where you kinda just let people think whatever I think about people not my mom. And. Who's that girl you with last night? I don't worry about it. Yeah. Right. Right. It's all it was just like it was the waitress. It was like a work dinner joy. Right. But my don't worry about it. Yeah. But but you can't play a game. With your mom knows what you're going to be repeatedly seen with that woman. And eventually someone's going to ask they damn you took that go to Christmas, my mom, imagine someone coming up being like I've heard so much about you and your mom's like, yeah, I know. I know gave birth. And then then that just spirals out of control. And now your mom's like, why are you letting people think we're having say, I mean, you imagine that day. Your mom being like there's a rumor going around that. You're fucking me. Christ on the cross. It's almighty that is like what do I say to him? What do I say if anything at all, I think he said like, what are you gonna go sky? Just let them you say, no, it's my mom. Imagine your dad gain win to that. Well, Mike, buck man, fucking my girl. This is jacked up funny situation. Creepy guy really weird late like the friend to be like, oh who's that? A lady you fucking like if I saw you with an old lady first of all this. I mean this mom's got to be hot, right? I would imagine I'm assuming just like if I saw you with a hot older woman, even if he was hot. I mean, I guess depends on the guy like if you if your mom's hot, you know that. Yes. But I don't think that means that I don't know what I was going to say is that I saw John with an older lady. I would would be like mom is that your aunt like, I don't know. Who is that? I would think that it is this mom is very hot. She's got to be like super hot then. But I think she she wants to dress the part. I mean, more than more than what I think you had address. If your mom is a hot whore. Jen. I think then I think you could run into this problem. Otherwise, I think it's very weird to to medically assume if she's a fat more than maybe it's fair game that there'd be these thoughts. Otherwise, I think it's strange to autumn ethically. Assume guy with an older girl. He's fucking her. Yeah. Absolutely. There's there's no person I would see with their mom and immediately think that someone having sex with I would just be like this it. Horno? Maybe these guys are dirt dogs. You know, maybe they've just like how? But even still I mean, this guy doesn't see sounds like surprised by it. Really do. I don't know. There's there's no that only happens in movies important. You don't go to the full. So you know, what you don't go to the movies with. He doesn't have a hot mom because everybody knows the hot mom. The friends would always know. That's your mom does have its guy in high school. Yeah. To your mom. Absolutely. Is it just like a date situation movies like one on one with your mind with my mom? I mean, I don't go often. But I have yet thing. But I've I've certainly I mean, I'm a momma's boy though, you'll catch me with my mom, anywhere. Same. And I'll be like what does he may just about them? I'm Jesus that's some heavy shit. Now, John only only on the world thinks that Manchester by the sea was uplifting movie. Spoiler alert the whole fucking family dies in a fire. Fucking fire. That's john. Don't move. I don't see why people think it said they were babies burning alive. Jon said, I said the movie is a whole is not that's a scene in the movie. It's a sad scene. No doubt is famous movie ever. It doesn't even end with him like really fully like event, sopranos style doubt. They're on a boat together. I hope that everybody will be died because their lives were so miserable. They deserve a better place. Anyway, let's talk to Jesse McCartney. I love this fucking guy. He's he's he's a cease emoji ship. He's got a couple like generational type bangers that everybody loves cool, dude. Like barstools been coming through. You'll probably see more of him. We should be. I wanna make a song with this, dude. So bad. Like a funny song. Yeah. 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We got Jesse McCartney live in studio for Casey radio who's fresh off of a wine walk. It's literally negative ten degrees today for doing that. Well, they got the wine warm. Yeah. That is true. Got my gloves and my socks, by the way. Yes saw way. Why you did not prepare? Is how you know you've gone like Hollywood with the weather. The weather either. But it's like mine is based on laziness. I only I always check the weather is looking out the window. So every like probably about fifty outside. I've already distressed pants today. I was walking to fucking ease. With the fucking wind chill. I can't I can't do that. Last time. I looked the weather. Just not something the weather is not part of my life. It's not something. I factor into daily activities. It's just this is this is what you get no matter. What exactly did the summer? I don't wear shorts in the summer. I wear pants like I I don't dress with elements elements dress for me. I was gonna say that it was not true. They'll just stop talking. Speaking of dress. We got you in your new video wasted you address talking ridiculous. You like that? Yeah. I mean, it's got like an eighties vibe. I guess it is like, yeah. It's just the I don't know bad vibes. Late seventies early eighties kind of thing. And it's my friend, Melissa Lynn actually did all the styling for the for the video and the whole theme was just to do like bad. It almost has like a Mark Wahlberg. Boogie nights, kind of you know. You know, I know that's stop nine eleven we're we're not going to stop this radio show. I one of my favorite movies of all time. It's definitely a tip of the hat that that video to me was the most fun. I've ever had on any said it got to play five different characters. One of which was I don't know if you saw the end of the video because I know you're washing it when I walked in here. Doing your last minute homework. At the very end. I play a drag, you know, I'm dressed in full drag playing like a sixty five year old drunk lady. You say you gotta go. Check it out the music videos a little bit of a lost. Art. I feel like when we were growing up. It was like making the wasn't making the video or whatever it's called an MTV yet hind the CG are element zero your home from school when a new video dropped his a big deal. Now. Now, what you want to put it on your YouTube or whatever. But it doesn't have the same vibe doesn't have the same impact. It wants it wants to. I know. That's why I was trying to do something that may was going to turn heads a little bit. I think the thing is now is like people make videos that have the potential go viral. That's all that anybody cares about right? Is this chicken ago? Go viral. Well, I mean, that's why you did it. But you did it. That's what you know with the with that in without in mind. And I think now like, yeah, I mean, nobody like you said used to be would do behind behind the scenes and everyone gets so pumped for the video there'd be like a video launch. Michael Jackson, been only five million dollars on one fucking music video or something. It was it was it was. So I think it was the first one that like set off. Yeah. Yes, right there. One scream I think it was with him and Janet was like millions of dollars for one video. But yeah, my ex-girlfriend in college was in your music radio. Okay. It's really she was a video girl when you think you were like, a boy Bamut or younger or something like that. Yeah. And she was let it was about this. Run down hill. On a DEA Joel's. Yeah. Fuck this guy. I heard like leaving. And I was like all right. I like to change. The yo my girl is in. Mall world ran weird. So you're in New York, I obviously then you said you were giant's fan. I grew up in New York. I grew up a giants fan a Yankees fan. I grew up loving New York sports in general, and then I moved to. I think it was about sixteen seventeen years old. I moved to Los Angeles to start doing the whole thing and I've remained in New York fan. But most my half of my all of my adult life is now been in LA. You can't you just can't maintain it the same way. It's not like, yeah. It's well in this industry to it's just a little bit more convenient to be in in Los Angeles for for what I'm doing. But I don't know. I still make it back to New York actually caught a game. I watched them beat up on the bears on Sundays ago. Yeah. Which was nice. So yeah, I still try to you know, try to make it out when I can. And you know, five drive there's nothing. I can't giants. Oh tasers furniture. Anybody in the world in sport. And then almost any other. Like fans can shirt the giants in some way, or shape or form have had so many down years on top of the Super Bowl years. But yeah, you specifically can't really say, no it's like very weird bully, but we also have there's a kindred like connection with giants because the giants used to be doing those team. Right. So I I in my whole life. I would come down to one giant's game of year with my dad because we let season tickets for my grandfather, he goes like he got them when way exists. Yeah. So yeah, I was always like I never I I hate the jets you've got let me like the jets. Why would you just like, hey? Hey, it's it's rude. And mean to hate Javer, they're they're they're like. Yeah. Yeah. I hated Rex years. But now, it's just like, yeah. There's a lot of times. That's a it's a little obstacle. Your speed bump, and actually, I don't hate them. It's kind of a nuisance. Anything? He's like, you know, he's going. He's been going ninety miles an hour for the last twenty years should feel bad for me. You should feel Jesse. I used to look so young sweating your asset during that game. I I was exhausted from it today by voices cracking people think it's easy. We john. I'm still tired for the Red Sox winning the World Series. I do a Super Bowl go on. So. Fitting me pity me. I thought it was barstool sports that made me age like I'm only thirty years old. I look look up sixty. And I thought it was Barcelona made me age thirty years in the last ten and I've realized that it's it's playoffs winning. It's just every single year every single season. I have to go on a long playoff run. And I'm gonna I'm not gonna go to the gym during that, which I totally do the JD other times, I'm not gonna eat healthy during that, I'm just order take out food. I'm just going to drink alcohol, and this is the product. But this is what the patriots are you done yet. This it's hard. It's seem no-one no-one this guy be land. It's just fucking tough. Put now like banger song. It's just it's so hard work. Everybody wants to hear you sing the hits. Just like, relax. Okay. Yeah. That's a grind, man. I mean, I if there's I have to say though, Kansas City made it look hard for the patriots. This time. In the second half that you're in the fourth quarter, even get more specific with it plumbing. The I I I I was was it fourteen nothing, right? Forty seven. They would I I forget what it was. But the. Yeah, I mean, Patrick Mahomes had the ball for eight minutes. Yeah. That was nothing that she's wanted to do that. She could do. Because they're playing Bill Belichick. Are you excited? Are you more excited to be facing? The Rams would you rather have been? I was scared of the. Yeah. I mean that's Harith by because it's it's hard to be scared of anybody with Bill can Brady. But I was that. I thought was I was like FOX like we could lose that game. I don't I don't foresee a scenario seen a lot of bandwagon fans in LA. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure that's why it's like it's tough to even. I mean, I'm going to route my face off for them. But knowing that there's like this LA fan base. That's just like the Super Bowl. Now. Did you see that video around April I in a bar lightning? How many how many LA fans are just like, you know, as soon as LeBron shows up to everybody. Then like as soon, as you know, as soon as we have to teams, everyone's like, you know, it's funny and chargers to like, you know, a little short. I mean, I don't blame you like, let's not I you know, you guys are long suffering fans or anything that video. It's going viral. If you've seen it it's of a bar in LA, and I don't even know if they have the game sound on Jamestown design. He goes finally no-one oneself overtime win. The NFC championship on the field goal and their couple of collapse. Cool. Let's do brunch. You weren't even faking. I get that. Like if you're like, yeah. These fake fake? I just want to see these people just want like great upgrade booth at the bar. That's all they care about. Those are going gonna be I could get I could also understand though. Because from the angle that was shot like, you could see the beach, and it's just beautiful. Play. No matter how this game went that was still going to be there. So good when you're on the east coast. You're better you're cold literally and figuratively. You don't have anything fun roof or other than your teams when it goes south is terrible. Yeah. I live in LA life. Everything's good. I wouldn't want. I don't like being like this. I don't wanna be bitter east coast asshole. I'd gladly be LA sell out if I could I just gotta have hair and make hit record. Do those things. So I sit here in New York and watched the fucking jet. Does that does I get exhausting like being I've only been de LA a couple times we've gone up there for a few things and even like it's cool to see everyone. So pretty and stuff like that. It's nice don't get me wrong aesthetically pleasing place a little bit timid, but but does your cell. Sure. Very look, great, look great. I don't know. I don't. Tighten up a little bit. The it was I was I was in an Uber yesterday. Took my seat belt off because it was so gross the way it was just hogging me. Disgusting. I can't look down at this. I'd rather die. Would like just coming through my kid's stomach goes our safe. I asked the Uber guy. He is the hey the next poll you got. I mean when we were out there. It was like it was just like you're better looking at me mirror better. Look at me. I got no shot with anybody here. No one's looking my way. It's put aside from the side of the aesthetic of I would be frustrated. I ruined so positive. I need the anger here that you've just displayed. And I that's why I always. Real positive. It's not always real, positively. There's like that sort of like fake, you know, like everything's great. Lou positive energy, bro. Let's Mente addictive Xanax. It doesn't love. You of a serious alcohol issue popping pills. No, it's you know. No. I listen, I wanna bag LA too bad. I do love it. And I lived there. And it's if you can figure out how to navigate the city, and like find good people, and they're argued people there a lot of them are from New York. But there are good people there like it is a great place to live. But look, it's it's a town in a place that's based on one industry for the most part, right? And everyone's trying to everyone's trying to make it in in the entertainment field and everyone's trying to get into a room with somebody who and it's competitive, it's it's the most competitive in the world. And so, you know, everyone's just trying to slip their as slip you their picture resume and one hundred every like, you know, prom Queen from Iowa from Texas from from around the country and king prom king moving to one little town was crazy in you. Are you went from a small pond? Like, yeah, you were hot shitting Iowa. Like now, we all look like, this are you do you guys you like? Meaning singers actors more traditional fucking famous people. Are you mad at like the like the influence of world coming around now like Instagram famous and social media famous? It's like, they don't technically have maybe the same pound level that you know, you guys do I don't really get mad about that kind of stuff to be on LA, man. I fucked these food. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I mean, it's whatever like you got to, you know, go get, you know, go get that check. I get it. Like, it's it's all about you know, what what you can do to carve out a niche for yourself and in this day and age. Yes. Allow some people are way more shameless than others, and I don't give a shit. I don't watch it. I don't need to watch it. Right. But you know, I get it. I mean this generation to were in such a, you know, this generation is all about sharing and content. And I mean, it that way, you know, that's just like, you know, we're in that new eight that that new world. So for me for me, though. Like, I think at the end of the day if you're turning out good products. Whether it's music, whether it is social media based I don't know. But if you're running out something that is really great, it usually does sort of rise to the top, you know, whether it's a movie in independent film that you made or a great song like people will find it. Because people I think in their heart of hearts still do care about great. Art rate stuff got him. We're gonna we're gonna clap you're gonna put us on a song Sherpur show. We'll bring we'll bring like social media, Starwood. Just get everyone's always trying to anyway, I song with. Just like auto tune us up a little bit. Okay. Like, I could wrap a little bit. You could maybe sing a little bit cool. And then we'll bring with social we'll have to run down field, and we'll have your girlfriend chase you. Yeah. There we go. Okay. I heard right down. Helen, you just something to think about I know that you've got like your new sound. But like making were that part of the POS? I'm done with podcast. I'm over this shit list. I guess. Musician. I don't know. I just want to be on either. So talented period. I just want to be on a song. I mean, you've got a couple of songs that people are going to listen to until the other time, we hope so straight up. So I mean, I'm counting on it. What's your favorite song of your of your let me say? Yeah. Know some people resent like their heads. So the ones that they wanna play for the encore. But like what's one of my favorites is a song that I did with t pain called body language, which was a real fun one. I mean, what a fucking answer the song with DP. Ep two that was a good one pain going off on Twitter yesterday. What was he saying miss this? He's he's music and porn anymore. Oh, yes. He said he likes to get the rhythm going important, you going home new direction. I mean body language bits Joe. So body body language should be behind the porn. It'd be a great point. Secure used to work on this on this podcast with us used to be a third co host. So we got little we got we got figures in the port. It was. It was you know, what I mean? You know, I mean connections in the industry. We'll talk to awesome language, duck show, if you auto tune us up, and we were to be body language like then we would be a part of like this immortal hit Russia like sorry, t pain body language to point out. Radio. Plug you guys in body language is one that that's gonna plant in my house. My breakup on so I really care. Yeah. It was it was it was I I don't I listen to songs. They don't always focus on the lyrics. So leave has always you means ever, really. I like just broke up with my girlfriend when I was like twenty I listen to that all the time. It was just like leaving was what I focused on the Dan focus on the robot. But it was like I was like, oh once I finally got it as like, wait. That's what her new boyfriend soon like about me. That's right. It's both of our songs for the same girl. Beautiful soldiers. It just speaks to me. It's like it's the only song that like really I will never not be able to play like a half to. That's like I can always change my set list here and there but beautiful so because it was my debut like the first song anyone ever heard. It's the song that put me in the living rooms of every family in America, every twelve year old girl who was like in eighth grade, seventh eighth grade like that's that was the song that they heard, you know. So like that like tonight we ever show at play station theater, and I've always toyed around with like moving that song in or out or later in the set or in the city. Yeah. Into it. So it was interesting about you. And like any anybody any of the guys who kind of came up in that era early on young yet is now that twelve year old girl was in eighth grade is like other five year old woman or whatever like. But in her mind when she goes to that concert. She wants to see you know, what I mean? It's like if you hear that song, she's gonna be face off to watch that the crowd go from what they were to, you know, thirty years old or whatever and the energy is in like is so crazy when you see when they hear that debt it hadn't done like nuts all the iphones. Come out. You know, they're like that mill right. Of course. How can you not like it? That's what I'm saying. But I always ask anybody who has a hit song hit TV show, hit character, whatever, and you kind of fall into that. Sometimes people are like no wanna play you play know cord like that and everyone goes wild. That's awesome. Whether it's now, then whenever that song really is the reason I was able to do anything else in my career hat any other hit songs because that sort of put me on the map so to sort of like put your nose in the year to on like that would be insane. Like you have you have to play. Did you go through any phase where you kind of resented it time? Maybe when I was like in my early twenties. And I was trying to like, you know, I was trying to edge up a little bit or I just didn't wanna like sing the song. I'd been singing for six five six years at that point. And I was just like, yeah. I mean, I wanted to do other things and try things and maybe for a while. I didn't play it all the time. You know, when leaving came out it was all about leaving and body language, and I took more of like a rhythmic urban turn. I was doing more like urban music at the time and working with other urban artists and beautiful soul was not like, but at this point everything's come full circle. And there's like a nostalgic quality to that song. Now that and those thirty five year olds are the ones that are like buying buying shit. Now. Buying tickets. So you gotta play that song for him. No matter what. But it's cool because the Lieven fans and the body language fans and the girls that came up in that era are in college, and I've been doing last year how many colleges do we do last year? While you're fifty universities around the US, and it's insane. Like the college kid and business businesses. Crazy right now, we have another fifteen schools coming up this spring, and and they sort of came up in that area. So that the demographic is pretty wide like you have girls that are eighteen nineteen twenty years old all the way up to, you know, early thirties. So it's it's pretty wild done it, right? Then man. Yeah. Pretty much. Everybody's listening to my shit. The new video was wasted. That's out. Now. Catch it on you to catch it wherever you find music. I guess. And what else you got an axe with the tour is just on tour right now, the resolution tour kicked off in Dallas a couple of weeks ago, and we finished we ever show tonight here in New York, the PlayStation theater, and then we're moving on to Boston. Boston's us about show that'd be going to be a part yet. I'm sure sure everyone will be still hung over from the Super Bowl. So I mean from the AFC James I'm playing at house of blues in Boston, which is one of my favorite house of blues in the country. So awesome yet. I played it once we know we know that a couple of times. Yeah. We did. We had a blackout door like way back today. And I would have to dress up. We EDM stuff we have to dress up in a mascot, costumes, go stage dive stage diver now, not a stage. Don't become one. Where huge like metal heads, and they're like really punk heads. And they go stage diving and they come back with broken noses because like not for me when we wouldn't do it. It would be you know, it's like a. You know, it was like it was like a college thing. So it'd be college EDM Fessel like it'd be a lot of drunk eighteen year olds front, and I'm six feet tall two hundred twenty pounds. They can't catch me. So I would jump and Vos described as like a plane crashing through a forest. So you'll just be this seven forty seven taken out these trees of women and time are like producers would be allowing them over. Yeah. Trump again, like I can't I can't do it. Again. I can't do it house through. And that's if they stayed there a lot of times, sometimes it why? Around the mazes. I don't recommend stage. I it's not a good time. Stay on stage seeing pretty that's it. Finish this tour in like, mid February. And then I'm gonna get back in the studio and try to finish this album. And and you know, I'll I'll be torn probably a lot of twenty nineteen as well. So while single easier for me awesome. Check it out the video too cool. Thanks, guys. Sue awesome.

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Time Traveling Aliens

Bob and Sheri

1:29:46 hr | 2 years ago

Time Traveling Aliens

"Now, it's the Farben cherry show. They're not the canned garbage that you was to the real with Bob. I've not being here and cherry K A. Now broadcasting from the fully show, Bob and Sheri studios, Bob, and Sheri, I was reading a, hey, everybody gateway to the weekend my favorite day of the week. I was reading the wildest story about this woman. She sixty years old name is Diane does always Shah she's British and a couple of years ago, she moved to Sri Lanka spent her entire life savings, which is about hundred and fifteen or so thousand dollars. She spent them all on her twenty six year old Sri Lankan husband now. She was sixty. She's met him. She sold her home in England packed up said goodbye to everyone. She knew a move to Sri Lanka. She used the money from selling your house to build a house for her and her husband and she bought. Bottom like, a mini van, I guess, and then he was tragically killed and her family kept her under his family kept her under house arrest and Sri Lanka because they said she wasn't allowed to sell the house that they were living in even though she paid for it. They also demanded that she turn over her pension to them. And she said that she only realizes now she said, I feel kind of stupid that I in listened to my family and friends they told me that it was just about my money. I thought he loved me. But obviously he didn't. So they had you know, they had met when she was vacationing in Sri Lanka went back there. So they did meet online sharply met him face manifests the face. So remember government backing the family who was keeping her? Do you? Remember, I told you that he was tragically killed. He was killed. He was murdered by blackmailers who found out that he was married to this British woman and getting all of her money. Stay began blackmailing him to get the Herrmann. Any from him pay day murdered him also thinks that he had a second wife because after he passed away after he was killed. She found paperwork in his personal belongings that made her think that he had another family somewhere. So basically, he just totally and completely scams. She finally managed to get a flight back to the UK, and she had everything everything taken from her guessing, the of this house shed houses, probably being lived in by those people now she's not going to be able to sell that. She's lot. Would you do that in a country like that she's lost? Every not I was reading. I was just I was reading about this. And I'm so sad. And I thought you know, I know there are a lot of people that are really judging up on her. But I understand. How these things happen? She was lonely. She was sat and she was lonely, and she had needs they could've been sexual that could have been just companionship. Well, the thing this guy had a personality. She went with a group of France, the Sri Lanka about six years ago. And he was working in the hotel where she was staying, right? She was fifty four he was twenty. And you know, like our Stella get your groove back. I guess right. Right. Whatever. It's what it sounds like. But they fell in love, and they got married seven months later, and she left her home and everything she knew and took all the money. And I wonder if she was married previously that I don't know that would be an interesting back story, and I could have been somebody that never found love or was the voice thumped or whatever. And all of a sudden, you know, if if you're going through something like I just described going through a divorces and your marriage, and you're alone, and you're out there now. I think you're vulnerable to do things that normally you would say to yourself. Well, let's make any sense and hurt, you know, just leaving all of her friends all of her support system behind in England and going to relinquish with a guy that is young enough to be your son is Sanson grandson. Yeah. That, and that's you know, I was thinking about like could would this happen to me? I am the biggest sucker I'm so gullible. I'm so easily fold and swindled, but I've spent so many years driving kids around in a mini van that I don't want to date one. To needy. I just I'm not interested whatsoever. You say you're twenty you're not old enough to drink. Here's this no way. I want to add one more to my car pool line. But I could could easily be an have been just like the saddest thing is what does she know sixty something she's sixteen she's sixteen and the money is gone. All of it. All of it. It's really a pity that edge. Well, live and learn right. The thing is like between between the internet and also just basic human loneliness and need we're all just one like hot poboy away from financial disaster. If you're lonely better to watch drew Carey on the prices, right? He's on every day. He's very awful writer friendly, very friendly. You might could win a microwave. Yeah. That's right. It's Bob and share. So I was reading something on BBC dot com, and it was about British brides. And I guess it will be about the same in the United States. It said that most British brides to be spend between thirty and forty eight hour days preparing for their wedding, depending on how big the wedding is. So it might be thirty five thirty eight days if you would if it was a eight hour day total total of outright to me. I think it did to me too. And then. I started thinking about my daughter alleys wedding. And in three and a half months. She'll be married, and this will be the last wedding that I will ever be involved. No will not. Yes, it will. Yes. It will Hampton is a boy, I'm not going to have to do anything with that. But show up and Madison when she gets married. Her father will walk her down the aisle and pay for that wedding. Right. Why why why are you saying that? I'm not right. Why you that's exactly what's going to happen? Yeah. He's going to walk her down the aisle. What do you? What are you getting at here, you this is the last wedding that I am going to be involved in? If you want to believe that I'm not gonna argue over. What would I be? I mean, it's I would go to them. Obviously, I would go to my step child's wedding. It's gonna be a long way off. They're both very young. Look, we'll be involved in what way in the way of paying for things and arranging for why why do I have to pay for something? No, no, no. New. I'm sorry. You handle what? Rides. Parents are going to pay for his wedding. He no, we all need to believe our fantasies. This is the last wedding. You're going to be involved in if I just drink one extra glass of Kombucha, I'm going to be beach ready without any effort, boom. There you go. We both have fantasies. Why do you think that I would be involved in another wedding? Because you have other children will I'm not saying I'm not going to buy them gift. You're not going to buy them. I'm going to buy them some gifts. Do you really think? Do you really believe that you're not going to be involved with? I do paying for things you really believe he'll me what I would be paying for your going to be paying for more than you think you're going to be paying for part of his words by paying for engagement parties. You're going to be paying for part of Madison's wedding. You're going to be paying you just are and you better it would be better for you to accept that. So that you don't feel like a grave injustice has been dumb one at arrives. You just might as well accept. It I go ahead and accept it. If I were you a nice gift. Why would I pay for these other things you said? Todd. Is there any way that you can help your? I'm not saying that. I'm somebody's somebody needed some assist. Obviously there might there. My stepchildren, I would do it. But if you look at how things are traditionally done, I'm not asking anybody to help me with allies wedding. This is the man that member he uttered the phrase, I'm going to have a wing of the house the wing, and and and that's and then the next thing, you know, he's at carpool pick and kids up in the afternoon. The wing of the house kind of went away. Pro make all those proclamations that you want because they sound good. When they come out of your mouth won't you just fire me 'cause eight me so much. We don't hate you. Just because here's what happens you make these proclamations. And then you get this ingrained in your brain. Why can't I have hope hope is one thing? But you you like make this like you're laying down the law. Well, no, I'm not laying down the law. It's just this this you and naming Lee be the right thing that I finished paying for my second doors wedding. And then everybody else picks up what they need to pick up. There's a lot of seemingly thing or the right things to do. But they never seem to work out for you. All right. I would pay for the rehearsal dinner aren't you'll pay for what you need to pay for. You'll do with snoop sound like you sound like a woman who runs the prison you'll pay for what you'll pay for some days. You listen to how that sounds. Are you pretty much Furet somedays I convinced here. And I feel like a woman who runs the prison. Always it that bad you will pay for what needs paying for you know, it as well as I would need paying for outside of the rehearsal dinner in Mary works too. It's not like she. She doesn't have income, you know, and she would want to from just the pride standpoint. I know her so outside of contributing to that. And having a nice of very nice gift. What what else would there be? You got no answer. I have no answer because you don't want to hear the answer. And maybe just maybe you won't have to do anything. But show up just meet. Answered better be chitchat pays for every. Although when in your life you've ever been able to just show up it hasn't happened yet. But maybe the universe has been saving it up for you to just show cue. Thank you very much. That's right last wedding, your avenues. All right. It's time for today's Jake mints qualifier. If you go to be OB AMD S H E R dot com and tell us why you could use a little extra help with the holiday bills. You could win five hundred dollar visa gift part? All of our qualifiers. Get a giant Sherry bag loaded up with swag. And all the Jake means you can handle all natural throat and Tesla's ISM. I have to say in all seriousness that some of these entries are just the people live the most unimaginably difficult lives. Sometimes every single person is so deserving that all we could do was pull the put everybody in and draw daily winner at random because there was no way that one person was more deserving than the other. So today, we pulled Nancy Gearhart listen to this. She writes, I need Bill relief because I'm a teacher in a single mom. Five hundred dollars will be amazing because I could afford a new pair of glasses teachers need to see right. And a big trip to the grocery store to restock my pantry my girls. Eight me out of house and home over the Christmas break. A schoolteacher needs glasses. You hear about that? All the time. Now that not not just supplies that they need that they're paying out of their own pocket for but just basis. Nancy? We are going to send you a giant swag. And you are in the running to win that five hundred dollar visa gift card. I wish we had like one hundred five hundred dollar visa gift cards B O, B A, N, D, S, H, E R, I dot com. It's amazing the difference in people's lives. It it really is. There is a boat for sale right now. That's about one hundred fifty eight and they are asking I think four hundred fifteen million dollars, and they'll get it. And it has like mahogany walls, and they and it's it looks like a tanker doesn't look like a really pretty boat, but it is for sale right now big red hull about one hundred feet long. And inside you would think that you're in a British library. It's so elegant with with books and all so there's somebody who's probably thinking about buying that. And then you have a teacher that needs I glass, it's I mean, it's it's breathtaking the difference in people's lives side by side. There are people for whom five hundred dollars is nothing. But it's true. It's just it's nothing. It's like fun money. The idea. That you need your teacher, and you need classes to see to teach people's children like it just it just shows you, you know, the the huge difference in people's lives. And it makes me like I'll be standing in the grocery store checkout line with all the magazines, you know, all the all the feuds with Megan Kate, and Jennifer Aniston Brad, did you know, they're having a girl they're having. Of course, they haven't seen each other in about a year, but they're gonna somehow having a girl that's all of this. And then you open it up and you're flipping through it. And there's a 'paparazzi photo of I'm trying to remember what actress it is. And it was something like who was it anyway, so and so bundled up against the winter chill with a four thousand dollar handbag. Yeah. Yeah. I know. And what do you say, what do you say because the people because the people who made got that far it's their money. And you know, there is a reason they got it. They got into a certain business. They achieved a certain amount of success in skill. So we can't take it away from them. I mean, it's, you know, it's just of course, it's like you. Tell your kids all the time. Nothing is take fair out of it. Fair is not a part of it. Life isn't for nothing is fair. I think I think it's so impressive that somebody would choose teaching as an example knowing that if that's their life's work. They're never really going to be totally. They're not going to be rich. But they may not even be comfortably may not even be okay. My friends they love it so much. I mean, they're they're drawn to it. My daughter wants to be a schoolteacher, and she's just finishing high school this year, and she wants to go to college and be a schoolteacher and her parents are like we are so proud of her right? Because this is what she wants to do with her life. We are so scared for her because at the same time. Yes, is what she wants to do. But thank God that there are people out there who want to serve we work with someone here in the building who son just graduated with his b s are as BSN any now, he's an R N, and he's working as like an emergency room nurse. You know, an and he worked his way through college. And was a volunteer firefighter and a paramedic. Because he's so this is always wanted to do since it was a little boy, right? All he has ever wanted to do was be a first responder and to work. In hospital taking care of people. How great is that that we have people like that? I mean sure enough you need people who wanna be magicians in Las Vegas and NFL football players and Popstars we need everybody. But how glad are you that? There are people who roll out of bed and say when I grow up I wanna be a teacher. I won't be a cop. I think I think if you ask Americans and this happens all the time. What occupation? Do you admire the most I think teachers and firefighters are usually in the top five. I wish that our admirations translated into compensation story here about a firefighter. This just happened couple of days ago in Iowa helped the woman deliver a baby because their first responders to helpful woman deliver a baby in her house. And then, of course, the ambulance showed up and took the woman to the hospital. And then the firefighters shovel the snow out of on her driveway. Of course, they of course, they did. Because you know, they're there to serve they went into that occupation to serve. And that's because that's who they are as people, right? It's not just like, oh that's their job. That's who they are. As people one guy. The one benefit of firefighter is your guy gets his women think that's the sexiest profession. They have firefighter. Calendars of sexy clarifiers, there's no radio personality guy, calendars. And there's a reason. You're excluded from that morons in the news is next. It's Bob and Sheri, we've got them more wrong with Bob and Sheri, a moron. It's morons in the news. This is something you should not do if you live in a cold weather place, especially within the last seven days, you probably will identify with this person who was arrested. But if you're like me, you're probably saying to yourself I have done that at one time or another this into this police in caffeine. This Scotland pulled over a guy early on Tuesday because he was driving with a thick layer of snow covering his windshield. He'd only cleared a small square in front of the driver's side. So he could see he wound up getting a ticket and having to go to court. I'm going to just tell you that when I was doing early morning radio in Providence, Rhode Island and driving the work. There will be some snowstorms. I would I would leave the house at three thirty in the morning, and there would be ice on my windshield. And it's so cold, and it's so hard to to scrape it off, and I didn't have scraper that I would scrape the minimum amount of like the size of three matchbooks and then blast the heat on the windshield hoping and there's nobody on the street because his three thirty in the morning just snow on the street, and I'm driving along in my cheap little car in moving my head back and forth in that area p p it's raw it's completely wrong. But I met I have done it. I am. So glad you bring this up because I saw a really great hack online. Just never shared it on the show because it never fit in anywhere in order. If you would if you have a frozen over windshield. People listening will right and you need to deal with it fast. What do you do before you leave your house, Phil ziplock like a gallon size ziplock bag? Aggie with warm water walk outside lay that bag on your windshield, boom in like, five minutes or less you've got the ice off. So you don't throw the water on there. You just leave the bag bag on because if you just do the water on would to that's pretty cool five minutes. And so we'll end depending on how bad the ice build up this for some people. That's probably not a cool heads, very cool. All right. Today's more on of the day is for fans of the movie karate kid, this happened in South Carolina. A man was caught on gas station. Surveillance cameras doing the Mr. Miyake crane POS. Can you picture from the karate kid? He's wearing jeans and an orange t shirt, he gets up on one leg. He raises both arms like Mr. Miaki. And then he opens a woman's car door and steals her purse. And then he took off in a black Toyota tundra. So what was with the pose? I'm gonna go with alcohol, but I don't know for sure I think so text the word moron to eighty two six two seven four three seven. We'll send that to your phone. And now we go to Texarkana Arkansas were a nineteen year old man named Marcus Scott has pleaded guilty to attempting to steal a commercial plane. So he could fly to Chicago to go to a rap show. Pilot's license. The forty four seed chat was not damaged. He was found inside the cockpit of the American Eagle jet. Those are the ones we fly, Bob. And he said he was hoping to get it in the air. So he could get to Chicago. He's nineteen years old of Chris Kudo. She'll pilots with these kids that are stealing planes. That's one. Confident overreaching a little too. And finally a woman in Pennsylvania was just arrested after she put her business cards on cars advertising, her drug dealing business. If you go through the WalMart, putting your name and your Email address and your address somebody's card saying I sell drawn to say, though, how tragic that unfor- preneurs spirit was steered in a legal direction. Right. You know in the morning, I to the second have my day planned out. 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Are your awful to me, I need to eat and disappeared. And we we don't know if he's down the hall making toast, or if he's left the building to go buy a rotary chicken. So I'm coming back to the studio, and there's gyms okay of sports confused me in the hallway. And I was like listen, I don't know where Bob is. But I wanna talk about Jose Conceico alien. So can you come by the studio? So Jim is here. We didn't have time to do this sports confused me earlier this week Jose Conceico says that can take oak says that the alliens teach us about time travel. How does he know forget into? I heard snacks are the no snacks for the side. They will be but you have to like we do with Bob you have to perform. I it's it's like a train seal up on the thing the ball, then we'll. Know that the aliens teach us about time travel. How do we know he doesn't know is Jose Canseco? Former major league baseball star re at at some point reality TV personality ago. I won't go star announcing on Twitter about this at how he came about this discovery, we're not sure because Seko discovered that the beings of area fifty one and they're quote, very, flexible body composition. And quote was what the the whole thing was about. And he said he found this out without the bodies themselves. He says altering your body composition to withstand the forty two thousand six hundred fifty one pounds of pressure. Put on our skeletons by time travel may seem difficult, but we must try only when we free our brains. From are useless bodies our area, fifty one Powell's he just had a fly backward through the chronic vortex at long last fill a collective goal of taming and writing dinosaurs. A lot of the pack. They're all it's so specific like the exact amount of pounds of pressure in the krono vortex. And that's all that we're going back in time to tame and ride dinosaur. I don't even know how to analyze that paragraph. I mean, there's so much that seems like connected. But this is the moment where you stop. And you say kids, this is what happens when you use. He sees eventually these drugs will then affect your thinking like Jose can say, so here's my question. Does he believe this is he getting attention seeking just putting this out there like the flat earth resist like something he truly thinks is reality. There's so much incredibly specific detail in this that it's hard to believe he doesn't believe it. And if he's just making it up, I think he should get extra credit. Jailed and specific. And how does he of all people on the planet of the seven and a half million people? How how's Jose Canseco the one to uncover the scientific breakthrough that no one else's? I would like to if if you could travel back in time, I would like to see the dinosaurs. I don't know that I need to tame and ride one. But I would even possible definitely like to see one. It just wouldn't have occurred to me if you came to me, if you were an alien floating in a jar and said time travel girl that wouldn't have been the first thing I wanted to do with. Dinosaurs taming, right? Jim taming and writing team be cool. No just from a distance like a hilltop, maybe a distance view them. But yeah, I don't know. But just like how much it would blow up your Instagram if you had a selfie of you riding and teaming dinosaur that you could post on social media pterodactyl something through the. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, like, you wouldn't wanna bring that would blow your Instagram? Right. You wouldn't wanna bring that dinosaur followers time. And maybe take it over into that office over there in the corner. Take one look at that. And now it was overmatched again it would. So why does Jose? Why is he stepping out on this particular limb with time travelling extraterrestrials, maybe he's trying to be Dennis Rodman to the information? What what show is he on right now. We're trying to get on a good one. I'll know he is doing some reality show on some cable channel somewhere. He's a guy that likes having attention paid to him. I will say that he's been known to make odd statements in the past. So yeah, why I don't know if we can get inside the mind of Jose can Canseco to know why? Or how he's come about this information. But there it is for all of those unpack and kind of do our own investigative reporting on now, do we want to get into the mind of Jose question real quick before you go? I read an article on my new Steve the other day that there's an actual there's a formula for why people hate Tom Brady and gel Giselle bunch in so much, and it's not just jealousy. It right. It's connected. In a way to win of Paul tro. That's kind of arrogance kind of smug added. Toward things. Whether it's being beautiful people childbirth telling others how to eight and they basically go back and forth with what Gwyneth Paltrow said. And what either Tom raider double chin say on any of these topics to help try to help us minions to be better people more like them, one of the things that I think is true about that is when you look at like, goop, Gwyneth Paltrow stuff. And you look at Tom Brady's diet is a diet a lifestyle that's dependent upon having wealth and health seriously up freighter, people can't manage all of that just the time side of it. And then it's expensive to have a vegan. Chef it's why we eat -sarily pound cake and drink milk more. This could be the answer may be. They are truly aliens and Jose Conceicao is just now found out. You know, I would not have a hard time believing that Gwyneth. Zell were aliens are HMO. Thank you. We're going to send a search party out for Bob. And hopefully, he's the eat because we're so awful to them. Bob and Sheri, tune in. Our haven't been at all amazed by how many of our listeners have deemed us to say that their favorite Super Bowl commercial was the same as yours. Max the one with the coach talking to the first responders, and we're gonna we pulled it up. We're gonna play it for you. If you didn't see that particular spot, you don't know what we're talking about. But you know, the back story on this too. Yep. So this is the key. I it's Anthony Lynn now coaches for the Los Angeles chargers and. So the the the idea is he was in a car accident and first responders saved his life. So he's gonna talk to these first responders not knowing that these first responders were people that were actually. And then Skyla Bosco who is the paramedic says he didn't realize we were there for him. He was she was the paramedic. Who first arrived on the scene shortly after his accident? It was really emotional. He broke down. We were all trying not to cry reunion, which are during the game is part of a campaign from Verizon to highlight those who helped those with nine one one in showcases twelve NFL stars who were saved by first responders. But this group, of course, focusing on this Anthony Lynn in two thousand five Lynn worked on the coaching staff of the Dallas Cowboys football team on October twentieth. Went out for dinner following training camp session Ventura California after when Lin walked across the street speeding carbon the drunk driver at the wheel came barreling at him. He says I just remember seeing the headlights he recalled another coach saw something for worse. Lynn flying forty to fifty feet in the air and crashing headfirst into a parked car. Lynn fell to the ground with two collapsed lungs three broken ribs. And a major facial and shoulder damage. He was choking on his own blood. I just prayed Lynn. And said I thought for sure I was dead. Then the first responders arrived. They didn't know whether he was dead or alive. I saw a man on the ground with a police officer holding his see spine to stabilize him says Bosco that's the paramedic. We got at the engine grabbed our medical stuff and went to work. It didn't look good for lenses Bosco. Who's now a physician's assistant? He was in very bad shape. He kind of kept going in and out. He would open and close his eyes when Lin mumbled he couldn't feel as legs the first responders exchange. Glances we gave each of the oh sing is he going to live? Why can't feel his legs the Permai stabilize their patient? Raced him to the emergency room there. They had no time to find out whether who he was and they needed to get back on the streets for more emergencies. Still the rescue crews wondered there's a lot of people we think about after responding to nine one one call his Bosco the profoundly injured mystery man was one of those people in early December the Cruz finally got their chance to learn the outcome of a long ago rescue mission. A casting director track them down asked them for another reunion with someone they say. Saved sandy area, Los Angeles. Chargers. Coach Anthony Lynn, both the first responders in their former patient or fully recovered, and they were surprised coach Lynn had no idea. He was going to reunite with us. David Mendoza of insurer. Cal California firefighter who helped save him seeing the look in his face when he got to meet us was amazing. So too was the resolution of lingering question, I often don't get the chance to meet people. I've told Mendoza said it was so great to talk with him and seem doing so. Well, just give him a hug they said I have to have some angels with me that night to survive. Grateful in told the police and medics who gathered to surprise him. I believe you guys are my angels. Can we do have time to play his commercial, sadly? Sorry. We ran out of can we post it? You know, what let's poets posted on our Facebook. So anyone who didn't if you didn't watch the game? And I know a lot of people don't care about football, this one this one made me cry and have watched it three three or four times at it. Just every time I see it's such a beautiful such an emotional spot. I'll go post that right now on the bottom sheriff ace. It stuck you won't hear on the show the Bob and Sheri hot cast on the Bob and cherry. This'll teach Bob to walk out of the room to go make toast, or whatever is doing. Jim Zoki was here few minutes. Gomer talking about baseball player. Jose can Seco can say go can never say his name can say go talking about how you beings will learn how to time travel from aliens. So that we can go back in time and tame and ride the dinosaurs. So. I guess walking down the hall at the exact same time that we're talking about. This is our co worker is who's been on the show on the cast, and he stuck his head. Instead, we have to talk about aliens. How weird do you wanna get well us how weird can you get? We'll see. Here's the thing. Cherry is. I feel like this topic get such a bad rap. And I understand why. Because there's a lot of bull crap out there that you have to sort of sift through. But I feel like you've got once you sift through that. And you get to the really credible cases, we have credible. Witnesses seeing things in there's physical tangible evidence on the ground indentations where the craft landed radio radio radioactive background signatures and things like that. That's when it gets really interesting for me. And when you start digging into the big cases the cases that have confounded people for decades. That's where this stuff starts to become very very compelling. And it makes you wonder, well, how about the footage captured by navy fighter jet pilot Razi shea seeing these vehicles that are moving in ways that we can account for with our our knowledge of physics and technology. Right. Well, absolutely. I think when I'll say a couple of cases that I just find to be so interesting the first one if if anybody wants to go look this up it's called the rental Shem forest case, and it happened at Brent waters military base in the UK and nineteen eighty and there were a series of sightings over Brent waters airforce base a nuclear tactical depot where multiple craft were seeing then a craft landed in the forest and the the the base manager took a audio recorder out in one thousand nine hundred. And recorded the entire event. And it's it's all out there. It's public knowledge. You can go listen to it. He describes the entire thing. He says he describes how it's under intelligent control. And how it's moving through the trees and all these things that are just so interesting. It changes color. It just read about read about this one. One of my Facebook friends, Julie posted a link on my page the other day that astronomers say there are we were wrong. They're probably a hundred billion habitable earth-like planets in the Milky Way galaxy alone. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is is that life in universe is probably not unique. The only thing unique about it is that we haven't found it yet. But there's all sorts of things that you can do to try to find it. Now where it scientists progress to the point where we can look at the atmosphere composition of planets. We can tell if they have oceans we can tell how big they are. We can tell if they're in the Goldilocks zone. There's so many things out there. It just -ssume that we're alone. And that there aren't civilizations. That may be is too hard. There. There are so many theories about this one may be that the reason we haven't made contact with another intelligence civilization is because by the time a civilization reaches the technical capacity for inter sterile interstellar travel, they destroy themselves. So that's one theory. And then the other theory is that. The dark forest theory. Don't go looking in the dark forest because what you'll find is probably a bigger stronger predator, basic, right? Absolutely. And the Drake equation. And all that. Here's here's the thing. If let's say is that there are intelligent civilizations. From other roles that have visited or. Is it? The craziest thing you've ever heard that a former baseball player would be their embassador. Just looking at the new cycle the world we're living in today. Is that the nuttiest you've ever a baseball player who has an identical twin brother? Think that? I'm going to say that knowing what I know about where we currently are in twenty nineteen. That's not that surprising. Here's what we have to do. Is you have to come back and do an odd cast just me, Bob. It's not that. He doesn't believe he's afraid of anything that challenges his worldview and right now, he's down the hall listening to this. And he's just screaming I could hear his footsteps pounding as he comes to us. But I think it'd be really interesting to kick this around for all the people like us that are fascinated by absolutely anytime. So we are living in very interesting times. Right. We were just talking with our co worker is about extraterrestrials in the fact that astronomers are like, oops, we miscalculated there's like maybe a hundred billion habitable earth-like planets in the Milky Way galaxy alone don't even get started on the universe, but way, closer to home. We have some really disruptive technology in twenty three and me an ancestry dot com. These consumer DNA kits are. Are amazing. And some of what's happening as a result of being able to spit into a Cup and get your genetic stun was unforeseen. So we've talked about how law enforcement has used data. They got from ancestry Twenty-three me to solve coal cases. The Golden State kill the Golden State killer. But how about let's say once upon a time not that long ago. Maybe you were a guy who soldier sperm to a sperm Bank, and you knew perfectly. Well, what was going to happen with your sperm, and you were good with it? And you knew that you would possibly have offspring out there walking around the world, and you weren't ever gonna meet them, and they were never going to know your identity, and you were okay with that. Right. We'll hear calm. Your comes Twenty-three me in ancestry, and all these other over the counter DNA kits and it all. Started with one woman who five year old daughter is a child that was conceived using donor sperm well for fun. She and some family members got twenty three and me DNA test kits has gifts and they got one for the little girl. And when her results came back it showed her that she had family members in the twenty three in meat database. Family members of the anonymous sperm donor, right? So think about what that means. You're not really potentially anonymous anymore, and so the the sperm Bank, which is a company called northwest cry Abang sent her a cease and desist letter and said, you are not allowed to contact your donor. You are not allowed to learn more information about his identity background whereabouts. And if you do we will sue you, and we will seek damages against you. And then they took back four vials that she had purchased for genetic siblings for her daughter, and they destroyed them and said you're done here. So she was like it. It was devastating absolutely devastating. Because now she can't she's afraid of she does anything. This place is gonna sewer villa. Galaxies of this have not been sorted out completely yet because once you do that they own it they own if you've gotten a check out the company. Owns it. Right. And so they can do whatever they want to with it. So the person that's coming in making the suit saying, yes. But what we want to know is we want to know medical information, perhaps could help us with any kind of medical condition. We may not know of that may be genetically passed on that this donor has so those are the two sides with this. Well, there was one in this one articles reading thing. One woman who has a donor conceived son found eighteen half siblings through DNA matches. And I don't know whether he used twenty three and me your ancestry, whichever one for the sperm Bank said the spokesperson for this particular sperm Bank, said not all donors want contact some would be fine with it. But when they made the donation, the understanding was is that they would remain forever. Anonymous. But we don't live in that world anymore. I was surprised that if I went and got that check that they would share that information with anybody. Now, I see ads that people like that. But I'm not sure I'm not sure I would want that. You wouldn't. I don't think. So there this is just one of many sort of Pandora's boxes that this has opened you think about in people's families. I see it. I see it every now. And again, someone's Facebook status will be well, we just found out that my brother is not my father's child because of twenty three and me crazy world now. You started the DIY project at home. Then you realize convenience isn't always easy. The why Indiana why doesn't mean why is this so hard at ADT DIF? Why do it for you? We customize and install secure smart home that you control from the palm of your hand, or at the sound of your voice smart security designed and installed. Just for you with ADT. Visit ADT dot com slash smart. To learn more license permission available at ADT dot com. ADT real protection. Okay. We have one of our listeners joining us right now. Sherry one of our listeners whose name is Jennifer and she's right here. I jennifer. How are you doing great? And Todd tells us that you are a power lifter, and you are trying to become the world champ. Yeah. The world gave athlete of the year the big contest among all the sports, and I'm trying to be the first power lift her to ever win the huge competition. This is so exciting, and you're also schoolteacher. Yeah. That school right now. So what high school what subject he teach? I have an all girls health and PE, and then I have to senior honor nutrition classes. Okay. Let's talk about the powerlifting now, very very briefly. How did you get into it? And how much can you lift? Like, I didn't like in the early nineties at forty five. I've been doing it for almost twenty years. Now, I started off as a long distance runner. And then I bet a group of guys that were weight training, and they kept trying to get to come join them. So I finally did I finally started working out with them. And then before you knew it, I was getting stronger the guys at the gym. And so it was something I became passionate about because it wasn't little common to women and a weight room. So I got really strong started at competition of one ten world championship titles since then. And I'm a current of world record holder in the bench press. It's three hundred twenty pounds hundred three six pounds. Wow. How much do you weigh one thirty six? Our how'd you do that so fixing weightlifting and all the week and look at what is there a place where we can see you competing. Are you could go to YouTube and type engine Thompson? I've got all over my Instagram pet page thirty two, and I also have a website hundred pounds of power has. Youtube on their doing it for quite quite a while. And it just got really strong on my bench prices always been my best, but I squat bench and debe, and I hold the world record in the total. Also when you add all three together. How many can you when you squat and press? How many we fly I'm just gonna presence that okay? Twenty two pound. Is that all yes? That I rally with my dozen at four fifty. I'm looking at a picture with the guys of you. And you have an extraordinary physique. You're very feminine looking. I mean, obviously, your your muscles are very defined. You are something Jennifer. I want to know when you started out lifting the guys who invited you to lift with them in the gym. What was the reaction? Eventually they just kind of stopped coming. That's that's what I was gonna guess. Nate wonder braids, varied he became my husband kidding. He was one of the guys. Yeah. We've been married twenty two years now. So how about your students? Do they know that you are like a world class athlete? I Alec Alladays was he is so big that some YouTube with some of the people that they watch that's kind of kind of more precedent is that I've done videos with Judy food and my world records, but they think it's all really cool, and they've been super supportive for this contest. I do run a little further club here at school. So we put a couple of competitions school. And so so my students, and so it's really amazing. They've been really excited and they only act like pick up that boulder. Can you pick up this car? Where this person up for me? Have you ever been tempted to bring in some weights like, oh, I don't know three hundred pounds and just leave it in the corner in case one of the boys acts up, no. A lack of carry around. So so what happens what happens for you next after you're the greatest in the world. What's the plan? Has our rent. You have to go in and vote in second place right now behind the Japan's from Russia. It's been a month long competition will you go to website and your boat every day and tomorrow at new clock. So usually like at nighttime winning and then when I wake up in the morning and our time zones slipped, I'm behind so I'm hoping that by two pm smile having a votes to one competition because it would be really just for the sport up our thing and bringing it to a more of a faint stream light, and by people know little bit more about our sport. And then for me, of course to be a great Mark on my career. Make sure that all of the windows when you're lifting are are covered up because if you're going to begin the Russian they're probably spying on you. You never know. Positive about it. They the whole school's voting for me. Maybe been a couple of new shows and things like that the community has been pretty incredible kids every classy come on. They get their phones both for me jumpy role again, how they can vote for you, Jennifer. Is just total broke games athlete of the year talented. Easiest thing giving you a really long. Athlete of the year. You can vote by and then you can vote on your cell. Also. For the more votes. I get started say had winning thing. Which is the like be awesome. Every competition. They went here. They'd be like, this is the world games athletes here. Jennifer. And again, they vote for Jen. Jen Hamson, Jake Thompson. Games athlete of the year. We're so excited for you. We're so glad you were on the show. Thank you. Thank you so much for Harry, be really appreciate you giving light venison. I'm pretty cited are woman resent my. Yeah. You don't have to look like a man to like one sister. And we'd love to hear from you. Eight VOB S H E R. I choose talkback message on our app DM, Facebook or Email, Bob and Sheri dot com. It's stuff you will hear on the show the Bob and Sheri hot cast on the Bob and Sheri, we wanna give you along with our friends at Jake mints, five hundred bucks to put toward your holiday bills. Go to Bob and Sheri dot com. B O V A N D S H E, R dot com and just shoot a quickie mail about. 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I've tried to explain to her. Why the Beatles are not in fact over rain overnight. Listen to this. I didn't know this myself. I'm just gonna read this right off of BBC news. It's a little known fact that in the nineteen sixties the Beatles. Tried to obtain the film rights to the Lord of the rings John Lennon wanted to play golf him. Paul McCartney would've been Frodo and the band hope that stand the Kubrick would directed, but their plan came to an end when Tolkien refused play ball with them. Now in a strange twist of fate a new Beatles films being directed by Peter Jackson who finally brought the Lord of the rings to the big screen, of course, in two thousand and won the Oscar winning director is going to bring the tents recording sessions for the Beatles. Final album, let it be with fifty five hours of unseen studio footage never been seen before that was shot while they recorded that last album. He says it's like being a fly on the wall. Beatles fans will go out of their minds when they see that you'll be transported back to nineteen sixty nine and sit in the studio as these four friends make this music together. I don't know when it's coming out. But I have to tell you people who have seen some of the film say, it's extrordinary. That is I didn't even know that film existed fifty five hours of it to pull from its so much news that you can't take it all in kind of interesting that they only did about two minutes when they did the the let it be film of that rooftop right concert. They didn't very much of it. What you know, the neighbors complained, and they had to shut it down believe it or not Beatles are up there. And they said don't wanna hear that news. It was released their last album Roy's actually done before their last album Abbey Road. So anyway, that's coming. And I think that's what a director to have putting that together. Right. I always thought to I don't know why more artists didn't film some of their recording sessions. You know, they do now. So maybe it is, you know, you're right. Get the new, Bob and Sheri at instantly, get the podcast and odd cast. Oh, and when you have the app, you can talk back to the show, we love this so much just grabbed the app free and Google play. And I tune store and tap a little MC from talk. Here. We go writing. I will say something listen to the end of her message and you'll hear a noise. Okay. Listen. And then she comes back and explains with the noises oak on a second mess. Okay. Ratio and nursing home northern Maine and just listening to the show. I heard the Roxanne song come on. And it reminded me of my college lease back fifteen or more years ago. But anyway, we used to have a drinking game that went along with that song split into teams and one song drink on Roxanne and the other team would drink. He lists. Most of us were on the floor by go halfway through it. She can. She can. They're just metro truck that Iraq in the window. We are the kind of. That's what happens a lot. Yeah. That happens a lot this song. She was talking to the dog that was singing with Roxanne. Dog. Dog. To the nines. It's right. That is such a who knows exactly when to come in. You know? No. If the war were magical, I could have a do what with this dog? And that goat you played for me the other day that said that talks like a person. A series of that. I. Do you think do you think the dogs that sing along with zone like the dog with Roxanne? Do you think that they really enjoy it? Does it give them joy to be able to sing along with staying? I think they're they're they love their people in their caught up in the movie, they wanna be a part of it. So it's not that s- thing is hitting a certain note in it's irritating. It's just there were part of it. They're part of the pack singing at that point. You've seen a dog. And of course, that's what YouTube was bene- for. So we could dog singing cars anytime, you see it does the dog Mallika happy it does. Yeah. All right. Fair question. Are we Simpson's because we love that stuff? Not at all. What are you take? Don't even think about that. What's the matter with you? Of course, not this is this is joyous. What is what is my plex say here? Be silly be free imperfect. Just be all right. See you're laughing at a goat. Yeah. See that ghost? The goat. Sounds like a like a dumb ass. Right. We've all known somebody that sounded like that don't ever entertain. There's something wrong with us because we like to hear screeching goats dogs singing with stink. You know, what I'm so thankful that that rock didn't like to serious damage there. Scared. Like to ride behind trucks that are carrying trees or rocks or bold. And if you have, you know, a state with some really rough weather Durant winds. Yeah. That's right. All right on this the show about animals and the Joe lean. I can't I can't resist them. Sorry. I have a dog here that is being interrogated by its owners about whether or not it was outside digging in the yard. Now. I've I've I've put this on our Facebook just now look a second ago the dog's nose is absolutely filthy. So the dog does not have any defense at all. But if you're you're we go. Here. Digging dirt knows. Digging. Big. That is. So you can you can just feel that the dog eared we. We. News knows that something wrong. Would he goes flat? How can you not love? How can you not? When you go watch the video the dog starts off the dog is like a real defensive dogs. And as the guys like, oh, you're trouble. The dogs. It is funny when you the dot can pick up on on your emotions, some dogs are better at it than others some dogs when you're really blew they they get it. And they come over, you know, especially if you have somebody in the house who's who's crying over one thing or another. I've seen dogs go over and just quietly lie at the feet. That's the one thing that Finn doesn't do. Finn is not good at picking up on a motions all that much. Yeah. It's just I think certain dogs just have the ability to to feel it. It's it's closer to the skin. I've had boyfriends that weren't good at that. Yeah. I I love him. Anyway. You say to yourself. Well, he has other stole ROY other skills. That's right. It's funny. That is funny to some human pickup. Terrible it picking up. There are people that can't read the room. But are they more face involved? Are they more selfish? No, I don't wanna say because it's it's probably different in all cases. I don't wanna make a blanket statement like people are good at that are terrible selfish people when have when it went if we started not doing oh today today is the first day. Okay. Hey, thanks for the heads. I think there are people who just aren't fluent in those nonverbal signals and cues. I don't think they're selfish or bad mean people at all. They're very good at it. But there are other people who just don't want to get terrible. Yeah. I had a girlfriend once and she was talking to me about her ex husband, and they they had three children together three beautiful girls. But it did. Don't work out. And so they divorce than I said, well, you know, sooner or later, if you're dating somebody what was the problem. And she said he just did not want to hear about anything that was going on in my life. That was not happy or that was sad or something that was sufficient. Oh, wow. And she said he always would say the same thing. I said what's that? She said, well, I would come to him, and I would say boy I had to go and confront someone today because they made me feel terrible about one of the kids. And he would say sounds like a personal problem to me. Oh, whatever for everything or she'd say, I'm so depressed over this. I really miss. I think her mother had passed away. I really miss mob. Sounds like a personal problem to me. I got a kind of a jerk. Does that to his wife? I got an Email once from a listener who told me that she was debating leaving her husband because he said to her one day. Listen, I know you need to talk to somebody. But this is boring to me, maybe you could get a therapist rather than as he supposedly found likes like her wanting to talk about personal stuff. Yeah. Yeah. She was debating leaving the marriage because of I would never courage to do that. But boy, that's a really Holloway go through life. Well, I don't love your chances of staying. Mike. The tween traveling for work, which I do a lot and on the road with my daughter for competition dance. I have burned through a lot of luggage. I have broken wheels. I've broken straps. I've been so frustrated, and so when I heard about a way I was like, I gotta try this for a couple of reasons one these away suitcases are made with the superstrong premium German polycarbonate. And here's what you need to know about that. 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I can hit a tennis ball. But I don't have any special tricks. Right. I don't think you're like this with Mary. I don't think you're super competitive with Mary. I'm not you see this in some couples. Right. There's there's there's subtle competitions. Like, she still doesn't buy into the fact that I could cook anything that didn't really suck. So she'll come into the kitchen just kind of watch and make a few suggestions, which I am not interested in hearing. Well, the reason I even thought of this is a guy tweet it a screen shot of text from his girlfriend, apparently, he's very very competitive. I'm going to read you what his girlfriend he has her saved in his phone is Princess. So I don't know what a real good. Here's the text message from Princess. You can never let me win at anything. What kind of boyfriend are you you literally sit there laughing and enjoying my pain while I wallow in suffer my own failure. Not one thing. The only time I win is when I grind my teeth and sweat blood to win on my own. You literally sit there and let me lose to you even care about me. Honestly, why are you in a relationship with someone you beat it everything? Everything is a literal competition to you. It makes me sick. I'm sick of you. You can't let me win you act on nice, and buddy buddy with me. But you're really just an opportunity waiting to get me to feel bad about myself not anymore. This is a war zone. I love you. But you're so mean, and you never let me win anything. So this is the end from now on I'm never playing a game with you. You make me so sad. Every time. You purposely win to make me said, okay. You're good at eight ball quiz up. But honestly, where's your mind? At are you going to Harvard? No. That's hysterical. But you know, I have to ask you would you really want him? I don't know what the they were competing. Would you really want him to let you win most women? I think would say no I don't want to be allowed to win. But okay. So I don't know how to play many sports games. I don't how to shoot pool like, I don't know the rules. I I do understand eight ball that one person has stripy balls and one person has solid. You're not supposed to hit the ball 'til the end. And you're not supposed to put the cue ball in the pocket. You're not supposed to scratch the cube. All I feel like that's the basic rule of a ball. And it's a fun game. And I feel like we should be able to play eight ball together. I'm informed by my husband fats. Domino that eight ball. Are you ready for this woman? Eight Boza family game. It's not a serious game. Well, I I have no skill. So can we play family game? No he wants to play something called nine ball. And I don't have ever heard of that. I don't really understand the rules of nine ball. And here's why the game nevertheless long enough for me to get the rule runs the table. What he'll let me break. Which is. You know, I don't even know why I wanna break because I'm just going to barely move the ball. Right. So let me break and then he comes in. And he wins the game in like one and a half turns. I think if I if I understand it right nine ball. Is you have to shoot the balls in order of their numbers? Okay. Three. Okay. Yeah. But I only know how to play stripy balls and solid ball. Like, I don't. I'm no good at these other games. And he beats me so fast. I don't really have time to get any skill going. So I don't want him to let me win, Bob. Here's what I want. I want you to not play like your life depends on it. I want you to not treat this game of whatever you're calling it. Like, you have your mortgage writing on it in a bar full of Hells Angels, just shoot pool ball and spend some time with your woman without having to defeat me in one turn that unreasonable at rid of unwanted glee. Right. And why are you so cutthroat? Like why you gotta be so cut throat, which is shooting pool white guy be so cutthroat. Why do you think he's like that? He so competitive he so competitive so basketball goal in the driveway. Like everybody in America has right? I would like to learn how to play horse anything basic. I can do horse is woman horses a family game. We're gonna play something or the other did involves him racing around me like and snatching the ball like one of the Harlem, Globetrotters, and dunking it. I don't even know what's happened. And I've lost. You know, what you should do you wait until he wants to get romantic and Saturday night. You say us romances family Livia. That you're right. You know, if you really you don't have the time. But if you really really wanted to be sinister on the side, you take old lessons. Yeah. Yeah. One time I said when we were like this, arcade place. I'm like, hey, do you wanna play ping pong woman? Ping pong is a family game. I play table tennis. And then he perceives to what me like like, it's the frigging, you know, the summer Olympics where you see those people playing really really fast. You know, what it comes down? He just wants you to realize that is very skilled at sports or games that he's really good at it. And make you say to yourself. You know, what this guy's got a lot of stuff going on love it love it. But then we'll say, well, let's play scrabble, and then he wants to beat me at scrabble to which I say, we'll good luck with that Willie Nelson. That's just not going to happen. So then we have these bloody scrabble matches. He so competitive, but you know, you've got a really good chance to win at scrabble. I do I do. So that's the one you should go to. But when I went at scrabble, then he forms me woman. This is a game of luck. It's just whatever letters. Get. Oh, that's Loney. Not notes. Not ultimately, it is not it's Bob and Sheri, yet the more on of the day sent right to your phone moron to eight Bob share to sixty seven four three seven. I can't believe what I'm about to tell you is real. But it's apparently real after years of laboratory testing it's now in human trials testing on people. It's a pill that makes the tricks your brain into thinking that you're full. It's a it's a magic pill that would make you lose weight. Isn't that just like the Jetsons? Isn't that just the future? I'm just thinking of some negatives to it the I mean, it'll be abused. Abused by people that just want to be too thin. But I that that is amazing. It really doesn't surprise me with what they're, you know, coming up with being able to analyze how the brain works because that's what basically that is tricking the brain. Right. It has something to do. I guess with like the hormones that trigger appetite ever. I don't understand all the science behind it. But they've it works in the laboratory, I guess on like laboratory rats may be. And now, they're they're putting it in human trials. And they said the reason that they're even doing this was not for, you know, reasons of like, oh, I just wanna look amazing and skinny jeans, but they're hoping that it will reduce type two diabetes and weight loss surgery, but a magic pill that makes you think you're full. And also, it says a lot about where we are as as a planet wide population that we have so much food because for most of Uman history. The problem was people starving to death. Exactly. And so now, we're at a time. We're all my. We've had so much food, and it's so delicious. And now we need to spill tip leave. You brought this up right now last night. We changed the way we eat literally at the house we've had these plates plastic plates, but the real nice ones, we got him for a party at the Pottery Barn, and they're very very nice and you can wash them in reuse them. But the plastic, and I was wondering is that a good idea? Long term. You know, you're cutting into it and all will marries has her grandmother's Jenner wear, and it's real Fien see white. It's China blue and white China. This China is probably I'm gonna guess sixty plus years old may be even older than that. Because her grandmother had it when she was first married and we don't have all of the plates, but we have a lot of them. And I've been telling her that I would bring them up to the kitchen from downstairs, so put them in the dishwasher while she was working and a wash them all all of them. And I put them in a took up the. The plastic ones put them in there, and she was making dinner for him to me last night. And she pulled she went. Oh, my goddess my grandma, you brought them up finally, which you know, when I could t usually the word. Finally, I find is frequently. Yeah. But anyway, I digress. So I said, yes, I did. She said we'll come out over here, and then she stopped and she went there so small how are we going to get the food on it. I telling you Sherry these plates from her grandmother's time were one third the one third smaller. No the older plates. Want out we were able to get there was some strips of stakes Amash potatoes. And eventual we were able to get it on there. But it went right to the edges it when I first saw the dinner plates, they almost like a salad plate, and that's because folks back then just like you said did not have as much choice or food. And and plus they didn't eat as much as we eat today. Don't portions were radically different. Yeah. It'd be him in there. It was right in front of me. That's one of the tricks that some dietitian say changing the size of your play. Or is that right? Changing the color of your play kidding. I could see how the size would really size really work because when you see a heaping plate full of food, and you don't wanna don't wanna waste. So you're going to do the clean play clothes. Smaller? Glad we have that though. Plus, it's a nice little look into her past. Get Lamar's reviews, sit right to your phone text movie to eight Bob, Sherry, I've found something on thought catalog through my favorite websites that felt so much like me, and I've never seen anything like this before. And I wonder how many other people out there. Feel like this is description of them the you have an outgoing personality, but you're actually an introverted and kind of shy person. That's who you are actually in Somalia, and it's you're gonna love this. It's because when I when I tell people because they just assume like, oh, let's invite her to the party she'll have a lampshade on her head. No, no, not at all. There's a lot of us out there. Johnny Carson was that way to outgoing personality shy introvert. That's us. Right. So these are the the struggles of being that personality type tell me how many of these feel like oh my God. That's that's me. Okay. And you hear them. It's not that. You're antisocial your selectively social. Yup. Yup. That's me. You're not a group of friends kind of person. You just can't keep up with all of that. Yup. Yup. That's definitely me. I've really struggled with that social gathering. I have multiple friends that I see different groups. It's like I've got my hometown group in Connecticut got my current hometown group, and then scattered people around the country, but I don't I don't I don't belong to like some people grow up like. They go to the same school together. The to the same college together, the all joined the same country club golf club or tennis club together in the all they all know each other all their lives. You know? Removed so much. Yeah. We we just moved away to even knows what we would have been like if we hadn't moved a million times social gatherings that are supposed to be rites of passage, you know, like prom and school dances. That kind of thing. Just not for you know, I went to one. But I didn't dig it. I went, but I went because I felt like I should go. And I really didn't enjoy it. When you do choose to go to a party, and you are in the mood. You're the life of that party. That's true feeling it. Yeah. Absolutely. But then after that you need about three days of solitude and quiet time to recover. Right. It's true. Yeah. You go out of your way to avoid people. But when you absolutely have to inevitably interact with them, it seems to them like there's nothing in the world. You'd rather be doing. Yeah. And I know that sounds negative awful. It's not that you're voiding people because you don't like them your voiding them because it's exhausting. I don't know. If I really have what you read what you just said again, you do go out of your way to avoid people. But when you inevitably have to interact with people they feel like there's nothing in the world you'd rather be doing. No where you'd rather be a can do that. But I don't have the the power to really light them up the way some people that I know can do I'll give you an example of somebody who evidently I've never met him. We've had him on the phone, but I've never met him in person. But everyone I know who's met this man has said whether you like them or not politically when Bill Clinton is looking at you and talking to you, you're the only person is so focused, and so interested that you just feel fantastic. I had I knew a guy who. He was a Republican didn't like him, particularly. But he said, I gotta give it up. He he may be feel like a million dollars. I have met him. And that's absolutely the truth. That's right. You did meet absolutely true. And what was that? And I will never post that picture online because I get trolled for dinner last night. Well, never mind. It was a it was an event for the benfitting the library foundation because he co wrote a book with James Patterson. Oh, but what was it about of a minute or two in his presence that made you where he had some sort of you feel like you have his absolutely undivided attention, and I know people who aren't famous or whatever. Yeah. That same effect. Exactly. When when you are talking to him, he is listening and attending, and he is giving you his absolute undivided attention. That's what it's really powerful skill right next up of this. So true for me. Dating is weird because yes, you're smiling. Laughing your talkative at dinner. But then you don't want to answer any of their tech. Our calls for four days because you just want to be left. I think that may be why was not good at dating. That one is kind of scary. If you're a guy because you do what she can to plead the woman on a date that happened. The first time I went out with Melissa. We went on a date, and you know, we had a great time date ended. Well, you know, and and I waited a couple of days, call her back, and it wasn't because I waited because I was doing that whole strategy of wait three days before you call right job of kind of busy at the time and things just kind of caught up and like she called me going into the evening of the second night. And she was like, yo what's up here? And I'm like, what do you mean? What's up here? And she's like he forget about me. Or did you just blow me off completely just kind of been caught up with work and stuff? It's a tight rope action. You know, what to learn that? Then that would not be ignored. Everybody's different. Right. I'll just never I don't know why remembered this. But I read an article about a woman, and it was about for desire to have solitude. She said that she had a small cottage in somewhere. New England might have been in vain and she looked forward to having. She lived alone. She looked forward to having people. Come and visit her they're very much, but about a day into it of a three day. Visit that's all she can think about us being they'll be leaving it a day and a half, and then she would so revel in waving goodbye. And having the place to herself, I think there are a lot of us like that. There are you know, what I will post a link to this on our on the budgetary Facebook. So that you can go look at the whole because there's more go look at the whole list of these personality traits when you're outgoing put introverted, which is confusing. Thing for a lot of people to be it's Bob and Sheri, I don't know how many people got to see this. This is Mary Cobb. She's a flight attendant on south west and somebody on her flight rolled camera phone cell phone video of her doing the preflight safety announcement. So I want you to hear it. 'cause she does she she talked so fast to such a great job. You'll hear her say my dental twin children in the beginning. Those aren't really her kids. Those are two other flight attendants. Okay. So don't think for a minute that five year olds are giving you your your preflight? Here. We go. Tension moments too. Young identical. Twin daughter going to show you the safety features pokes thirty seven seven hundred series. I'm so proud of these kids probably see bell flooded and the buckle release lift up on the buckle position your seatbelt. I love Russia hits. I Michael whereas Speedo if you wanna take your joints, your sixty hit their doors to wing with awakes to rigs adores signs head to the beach exit. Everybody gets into the back pocket. Frenemy along with diverse ching. Rivers appeals and all the gifts for some time to time. It's a safety formation card. Check it out. Check it out. You'll notice in the highly unlikely that the cats Eliza snare huts have everybody is their very own teeny. Weeny bikini one-size-fits-all ticket on only the do someplace that of your hand breath that strip render waist buckle in front full. The titan was the right to have dip late two menu flake one of the two shoulder are coming. You'll tell them how good looking they are. They're gonna make sure your seat backs and tray table or in their full bright Nestle. Comfortable position possible and your carry on kramden chef completely under the seat in front of you, leaving absolutely no refugees Orphee as you know. It's an smoking whining. No complaining flight, it's pleasing. Thank you. And you or such a good looking flight smoking never of to southwestern because smoking between the two thousand dollars. If you want to pay your air, airfare, you should've loved somebody else. If we do make you that nervous. The next two hours, you're more than welcome to step outside. We don't discriminate southwest kinda special smoking section just for you. Maybe tonight, we have gone in sixty seconds and the club serving in running this way to get her motto is a lot you smokin federal law groups, tampering with the cycling of these particular or webcam laboratories Federal Aviation. Regulation are passenger replies. A lot of passenger permission signs posted placards, basically, just do what we say. Nobody gets hurt. All we never just paid off in cabin pressure. We did we certainly would be at work tonight. But he did for oxygen mask thing apartment overhead. Stop screaming like limited. Classy tipping is wholly different semester. Doesn't math regionally to activate oxygen simply insert sippy for the first minute and fifty cents for each additional minute. All of that plastic bag may not inflate. You are receiving lots and lots of gin. Oxygen that is any traveling with small children were sorry. If you're traveling with more than one child, the one that you think might have the most potential down the road, you're travelling with somebody needing fairies specialist is like your husband bless, his heart or your wife, put on your mask burst. And that's it for the show and tell sit back relax or you can sit up to ten feet away. Not a two hour flight gate today. Are you taking seriously all there's anything all the way to make your mortgage available? Police tell us just as soon as they land in Dallas anything you can do make our ritual. We'll tell you me, we're not shy southwest as we call. But nobody extra but you certainly don't get a refund. Thanks again. For example, us welcome aboard. Oh, she is something Mary. And she something you know, what was really fun at the beginning. She said if I have your attention could you pretend to give me your attention for the next five minutes. It's so I was on jet. Blue the flight was not very full. And I was sitting in the back, and they let me do the announcements. Did there will never forget. She gave me a card. She said. All right, go at it, though. That's and I went and did it how funny wonder. I wonder if she had to she's got a she's got a radio voice. The thing is is she's doing it. And she's having fun with it. But more people listen to what she said. It's usually listen to what they say. I love the loan if you traveling with small children, I'm sorry. That's really cool. They allowed to do that that south west. There's a lot to be said the whole southwest idea.

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55 - How We're Doing

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55 - How We're Doing

"Oh my God. Waiting for it to pick up. Joe very. Wealthy. Where the heck? That orchestra backing. Wow. Might be my new favorite. That is amazed credible. That's really hitting me in the the good spot. Right now is that I rediscovered a co Hedin Cambria this week, and I've been just digging in and diving in love it, and this isn't exactly a perfect equation. That's a little bit of a different style. But it reminded me of it. So thank you for that hit me in the heart spot. Joe because it brought up something that I love to talk about what just patriot dot com slash valley. Where we encourage you to join and how good no of a lot of good stuff. There intro was brought to us by a Reddit user by the name of its the good looking guy j in look looking guy and his name on band lab, which I've never heard of before is avenue. Warr av. E N O R go check him out Chekhov. Also that style of music that like what do you call that like metal straight like screen like thrash out? That's like. Hardcore mardell medal. I think it's metal any late nineties early two thousands. Yeah. Metal is like, very amazing. I kind of silly. I don't listen to it. But I know that like anybody who does typically is the nicest person in the world. Also that music itself is like there is something about it that I do enjoy even though like I can't quite get there with it. I respect it from flyaways find the guy that that type of like growl singing is always unassuming guy that you don't expect able to do it. This is my hot take about metal metal is the modern day symphony. And the reason why say this is because we don't have any real. We don't really have new symphonies. We don't really have new like, you know, concertos like no one's out there count like like movie scores scores are the closest for sure. But nobody's like. You know, a puppet Beethoven, and no one's going to see them perform their new music that is from nothing. I would say rivers Cuomo is like Beethoven. Sure. I mean, you could say that a lot of musical artists today. Dude. Rivers wrote, some good shit. Oh, I don't. I don't disagree with you. That's why didn't I see where you're going. Steve. I know that there is that stuff out there. It's just not on our radar. That's what I'm saying. Like, I think medal, I really do think. Metal in some way, is kind of like the progression of of orchestration because dude metal is incredibly complicated music and its symphonic. It's like a symphony. There's like the drum beats our double bass drums, and it's like the timing is so incredibly unique and precise and difficult and then the guitar riffs are insane. And the with both of you. Like what you're saying is pass thing. But I'm also agreeing with Joe gone. Battle. I feel like you can say that about a lot of music. But like there's a difference between a group of guys organically, creating these sounds and creating these orchestrations from instruments as opposed to like, a guy computing everything on loud. Yeah. I would argue that rap is the closest to like poetry because you're strips down. It makes music is like the whole idea of rapid can come down the most simply opposite of symphonic type thing. Sure move simple thing. And then you add over it. And it's like music is cool. That's basically what was fucking metal. I have such a respect for I have such respect for metal. Where where I get my respect for what you're talking about is the any. I I consider it a guitar player that can just go like their fingers are going seven thousand miles an hour there. Wizards to me, those are real people. The fact that you know, when you. Yeah. Or like, watch them like muse or when that Matt Bellamy does his little thing. Yeah. You guys need to hear just really quick. I have to play this for you guys because they feel like I feel like we're on the same page about the appreciation of metal. But I don't know if you guys are truly understanding I don't city of under Madel song complexity of it. I just don't know if I one hundred percent agree with the the equation, the equating you're doing in the strong word, seventy five strong opinion. Yes. It's a strong opinion. I agree with starting the podcast with a strong opinion. I I admire, but it's also hard enough, it doesn't timid delete. This whole pocket. We are going to do. Sure, it's recording. But before we go through before we go on because even this guy that wrote this intro wrote like really cool blurb about it three that. But now I'm on like a metal thing with you guys really quick. But I have to play for you, Joe has probably heard of this band and Anna. No like, maybe a lot of metal heads. If there are metal heads that listened to us. You're probably going to be like, I don't know man, you should pick like iced earth or some shit. But like, no, this is have you guys heard of a band called dragon for? Okay. So Joe, you know, exactly where you're going. You know, where I'm going. Yeah. Elliot, you're not trying to get that song on easy here. So there's there's there's a famous song from dragon force called through the fire and flame, so good. And it's just a fucking masterpiece. It's a master symphony. Yes. This one supports what your sets. What I'm saying? This is what a lot of memories like everything at its best supports what you're saying. Okay. That's true. Wow. What a great point. Joe? I don't know. If that's true. I think it's true wave like an orchestration if it was. If it was if there was a poet that said that did every every musical. Yeah. Yeah. Got to this. This is the best dog walkers just like a it's like made a fucking symphony. All right here. We got this is this is just a little bit of dragon forces song place. No, we're gonna play through the fire. Here we go. I love that. I love. Whatever that was. Yeah. It's just fucking. I imagined the screaming thing is more of like when I think of metal. I think the. There's also just baffling. There's a lot of people have the ability to do that have you ever played guitar hero. I have attempted to play guitar that song is like. I think it is the hardest guitar too. I think it's rock band guitar. That's it's either one or two or three I don't know which however that's like the last song. I don't know if it's a bonus on or it's just like it's like it's like vows at the end of the falcon Mario who'll cool. It's insane. To the point where doing it on easy for me is it's hard almost impossible. But then there's people that do it on expert in that blows my mind because it's just the tempo is insane. And the like double. You're doing you're doing triple free. Still enjoyable to listen to Bill time. Good song. Yeah. Anyway, guys. Welcome to the valley cast. This is. Bapu podcast valley folk where we we each bring a topic to the table. And Steve you haven't topic that you're very excited. I'm sorry. We have the blurb I wanna read the blurb from the guy. It's the good looking guy to round out our metal talk here the guy that wrote the intricate wit, and this is what he says about system down. This. This intro has everything music yelling, jokes, patriae plugs. He's making SNL reference sing a blurb slow descent into madness tiny Matt Damon ninety year old drug mules. The CHA CHA slide William Haines Pringles five five dollar five dollar foot long. Oh my God. Amputees Ben folds one through five. Cheap hotel rooms that noise. Don Knotts makes your mom jokes. Discount. Deep dish pizza floaty drunk. Mom's old VW vans antiques roadshow. What is that a coffee machine? And everyone's names. Also, I'm proud of this song. So even if it doesn't get used. I hope someone out there in joys it. I put on my phone. This guy is funny. The highlight of that blurb was Ben folds one through. Yeah. That's that's a good joke that I'm really disappointed that we didn't make. Yeah. Ben folds one through five. This guy pulled one through five there's been. And they start with the ball to publicity. I have to give this guy major props. Yes. What an artist funny shit, and then the one of the provinces incredible. And he says thanks and then another comment says open up that