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'Boys and Girl - Andy Dalton Signing; Drew Pearson on CeeDee, #88 Legacy; Rookie DE RonDell Carter; Aldon Smith Agent Ron Slavin

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

54:30 min | 3 months ago

'Boys and Girl - Andy Dalton Signing; Drew Pearson on CeeDee, #88 Legacy; Rookie DE RonDell Carter; Aldon Smith Agent Ron Slavin

"Here's something. Good is a new show from the Seneca Women podcast network and iheartradio. It's a great way to start your day on the positive side of life. We're so grateful to Bank of America for supporting. Here's something good and supporting organizations across the country who are on the frontlines addressing medical response capacity food insecurity access to learning and providing support to Bono populations I'm Kim as rally listen to? Here's something good on the iheartradio. APP, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We all living in the ripple effects of history, a butterfly flaps its wings in China in the nineteenth century, and you're uber driver misses the turn for the airport or an eccentric genius and Vince air conditioning, and changes the course of American politics I'm Sean Braswell host of the threat and I'm back with a brand new podcast presented by ozzy called flashback, a series of stories of unintended consequences on May sixth listened to flashback on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hello Boys and girls, welcome in to the boys and girl podcast with cowboys, NFL, network reporter Jayne Slater and NFL network producer Bobby Bell. Cowboys community with the inside scoop on the Dallas Cowboys. Now coming straight to you from the lone star state. Here's Jayme and Bobby. All right we'll just when we thought that the off season, this pandemic was going to slow down cowboys, news or Everything that we could talk to the fans about I feel like we need to podcast more than once a week. Bobby because the cowboys have remained active you as we've talked about. The cowboys told us one of my sources. It said that in the draft they addressed a lot of areas, so they weren't going to be in this rush to sign anybody in other words. They don't have this glaring. Need right now. Also told me that twenty, four, seven, three, sixty, five job and. They went out and they scouted themselves a starting quarterback. It's GonNa backup here in Dallas and I'm talking about Andy Dalton your initial thoughts, bobby. A I like it. I think it's always to have you know a strong back by talking to James Washington the old cowboys safety years ago, and he was on the early nineties, teams and he's talked about that. At the end of nineteen ninety. When Troy Aikman got hurt that the cowboys had decided internally that they were never going to let that happen again that they were never going to be caught. With a poor backup behind them, and so through that Steve, Burr line, and that was crucial for them in Nineteen ninety-one. When you WANNA play off game for them as the backup and then. Bernie Kosar and Rodney Peete and Wade Wilson, they they always were were stacking up good veteran, backup quarterbacks, and so something that they did for a long time, and then they kind of moved away from it. and. Were I think they've become a little comfortable with Dak Prescott durability, and they were seeing some of the ridiculous figures that go out there for for backup quarterbacks, but in the end it makes much sense we we don't know the exact escalation of the deal yet, but but it can be up to seven million dollars is what's being reported? It's three million guaranteed. More than they've spent on a backup quarterback in recent history but a guy who I think is definitely worth a guy who. is going to be a good partner for Dak. Prescott a good study partner and and somebody behind that. That can do good work during the week. I think and somebody. That is a great locker room guy, and so it should be a I think it's a positive signing. A good one I don't know that we should buy into the conspiracy theories that this is a attempt to move Prescott in a certain direction, but maybe that's maybe that's a small part of it. Maybe gives them an ability to say. Hey, look, you know. We want to work out a deal, but if you're holding out, you know if you're still not happy. By summer, we gotta have a contingency in place, and so maybe there's a little bit of an added benefit to doing that. But overall I think a good signing, just a little bit of a surprise and one given. That's not the direction they've gone. In recent years is paying a good backup I'll science continued point to Mike McCarthy I just think of how active they've been in free agency and the quality of the free agents that they've gone out and acquired. Koi signing John Terry Poll Alden. If when he gets reinstated, and then of course a guy like Dalton I'm I'm with you. This feels very much like the what the saints did. With Teddy Bridgewater a lot of people were shocked at the saints out there paid him that type of money. I reported at the time that the Miami Dolphins wanted him to be a potential starter for them even after. They picked up. What's his face from the cardinals? Josh Rosen He wasn't GonNa be the guy that that wanted to go take that. He wanted to flourish in sort of learn from the saints, because that was a lock from news familiar with in this case I've talked to his old coach at Tcu Gary Patterson Gary Patterson said it is just that. At a house here, he you know, he still lives in Dallas area in the off season with this pandemic, and not really knowing what that's. GonNa, look like I think there's a level of that comes with being able. To stick around the Dallas area to play and then kind of do it. Teddy Bridgewater did which was go and get yourself a starting job within his. And so again, this also feels like the. More signing when they were going through Zeke Elliott deal. We all knew that it wasn't a guy that was going to replace. Zeke it was just an added insurance policy at into me. He feels like a more accomplished mark. Sanchez debt on in that room. I think we saw Dak Prescott really flourishes rookie season, having a guy like that in their guy that was able to read defenses a certain way. You'd had some experience and now you've got a guy like that Andy Dalton in in Dallas. That can really push back then. We were so impressed with into Nucci a guy that picked up in the seventh routes. As another guy that gives him insurance, and of course the cowboys announcing on Monday that they let cooper rush, go I liked cooper, but you and is solid training camp the last two years. This was not a guy that you wanted to step in the event. You have a situation like the saints. Ad Drew brees going out meeting. Somebody that's going to step in and help sustain them until you're starter, comes back and help you make a playoff Bush. Yeah, absolutely I think that you know. The cowboys have been trying to replace Cooper. Rush for a little bit. You know they drafted Mike White, and that didn't work out they they wanted him to be. The Guy Behind Dak the developmental guy that just didn't work out the way they wanted it to. So so they've been working I think trying to push him and find a better person for that spot. But yeah I mean the the cowboys they clearly do They have a type. You know everybody's got their type like you know that there. You know I like a blonde girl you know with a pretty smile, or or whatever else you know? The cowboys like they're red headed backup quarterbacks. Cooper rush. Brandon Weeden Jason Garrett Andy Dalton. They are they they certainly have type and they go for it. That's really funny actually. That that was? I didn't know where you're going with that and I and Balaji there Jerry. Because those are all jarrier backups that are the redheads. Let's talk about Jerry Jones in what he told us on draft night. They went picked up. CD, Leeann, a decadent pick that you and I discussed at seventeen, a guy that hadn't even probably thought about Jersey number. He was gonNA wear, and the owner of the Dallas Cowboys says it has to college. Teammates had passed away in his number was eight. And he wanted CD Lambda where eighty eight and we talk about. There's a Romo. Beehive will. There's also a bryant. Beehive and it just set the world on fire. And while I thought he was being a little tongue in cheek. I don't think I expected. The he would necessarily Go through with it set CD. Leeann picked eight now. He joins the club in. We're GONNA have drew Pearson on here and a little bit just to talk about what that eighty eight club means, and his thoughts on CD, Liam now acquiring that Jersey I will say this about Dez. Does of course a tweeting out his support of CD LAMB and a lot of people have asked me. So, what does this mean for? My honest answer is I don't know. Here's what I do know. DEZ has been reaching out to teams himself. He already admitted that when he reached out to Steven Jones last year. He reached out to Sean Payton. Of course. He still with ROC nation, and he has an agent, but Dez is working for himself right now. I know there's at least one other team in the League he was very intrigued by it and when things can open up again, they WANNA. Bring dozen for live workout, so there's a good chance that does might end up on a roster training camp whether he'll be on the roster when the season starts still unclear whether he'll be the cowboys a still unclear as well when you consider that they've got Amari. Cooper CD LAMB Michael Gallup It does feel like this would be a tough place for Dez. Even though does says he doesn't want to be like. Jason, witten income back in other words never not be on the football field as such a competitor in well. You know I think the Sean Payton Plan. When he went to. The saints was a guy that you've got obviously Michael Thomas and you Hud Yosemite. The other guys like trae. Kwan Smith and you had Jordan Humphry I. think that I think there was this concern they would they would ask does to do a lot in. That wasn't the case and maybe that. That, if that's not the case in Dallas or still a possibility, but I will concede that it looks like the road is a little bit more narrow for him to come back all right, so let's talk about what comes with wearing that number eighty eight and what Mr Eighty eight himself. One of the originals drew. Pearson has to say about all this new offense. Here's something. Good is a new show from the Seneca. Women, podcast, network, and iheartradio. It's a great way to start your day on the positive side of life. The. Current crisis has prompted and inspiring bursts of innovation. That's what we were so excited to learn through our partner. Bank of America about. Project Isaiah we started working together to raise the initial money eating and starting to get meals on the ground. We were approaching it from the vantage. Point of it's not just meal served its jobs saved, and those are the two metrics that really mattered in this, and they also really mattered to Bank of America. We're so grateful to Bank of America for supporting. Here's something good and for supporting organizations across the country who are on the frontlines addressing medical response capacity food insecurity access to learning and providing support to Bonobo populations. I'm Kim as a rally. Listen to hear something good on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We're now joined by a living legend. I am talking about the original eight Drew Pearson. You can find him on twitter. At Eighty, eight drew Pearson drew, was one of the first co host. I had in sports I. Don't know if you realize that we did the show a a long time ago. When I love scene, you continue to do media and thriving your thoughts as it related to this draft drew and picking another eighty eight in CD lab. Yeah, well first of all I. Keep sending those invoices. Keep returning. Returned to sender for that payment. You only for giving you your big break. But Anyway I was a you know. I was I about surprised at CD landfill to cowboys And I'm thanking man actor I think the reason is because Henry roads went to what Denver. No, the raiders at night thing everybody expected. Judy or CD to go ahead roads, but once he went ahead is starting to change in the order. A little bit and people's thinking a following net graphic, so he ended up volunteer. The cowboys in right away. What I did was pull up. His highlights okay. WHOA. This is a bad man. And he's got the size in the speed and the thing that's impressive. He runs good routes and he's in that system where they have to run raspy. They throw the ball. A lot may have to run good routes, and he gets a man to man coverage a lot, but the thing is the action really starts after he makes the catch. Okay, you say yards acted a catch the reason why average over twenty one you hard to get at Ou, so you bring that to our offense and man. That's going to make a big difference. No matter who's a quarterback, Dak handier Limo. drew you or somebody who, when we talk about the legacy of eighty eight I mean you're the one who created it. You know you're the one who started that legacy, and and then of course went to Michael Irvin and then. Dez Bryant and now to CD lamb, so you know I, think that you were kind of faced with the same sort of question about the number or anything that CD lamb seemed to be where there's this discussion should take eighty eight or not. Talk about I guess just the legacy of that number, and and how you feel about CD being the next to wear that. Yeah. Well first of all bobby nobody had before I did, and it was arable, because Ron sellers had it the year before I had it, and he got traded to the Miami Dolphins for auto stowe out, still had claimed behind fall warfield for four years, and he wanted to get outta there, so he forced to trade come to Dallas, and you were eighty two thank God. He came to Taos because I learn how to play wide receiver in the NFL by watching auto. Okay, my Dick was my receiver coach. Wide Receiver Coach Okay my Dick. It knew nothing about wide receiver except my blocking assignments. He knew all that, but he did not run rats run. But anyway the number was available so actor. I made the team you couldn't have. The single digit numbers had number three in college. I wanted that fifteen in highschool wanted that couldn't do that, so you had to go in the eighties. So. There wasn't that many numbers available Billie Joe was never went. He took eighty nine. Golden Richard was number two. He took eighty eighty three. Eighty five. Who wants that eighty seven away. You know so the only thing that really sounds decent with eight, and that's why I took it, but then after I did what I did in it in the retire, you know I started calling myself the original. Ada Okay, and it just kind of caught on and people had forgotten that somebody else previously had worn eighty eight so I did what I did instead of tone for the eighty eight, but what made it a legacy? Now? Michael comes along and you know I was working for Channel Five Scott Murray. He sends me out to dfw airport to greet Michael as his playing comes after he gets drafted and. You know I think Michael's intruding aware number eighty eight. Is that okay I said well. Michael it's not my number first of all second of all. If you do wear, don't do it. I didn't do more than I did and man. He did a lot more than I. Did Okay Hall of Fame Career? Individually three super bowl championships in all of that so now we got something go now. We got legacy. If Michael doesn't do anything in the number eighty eight than it is legacy so now we got something going. And Dez comes along in me in Michael got together with taste and we said hey. You know this is something that we want to carry on. And you were designated in annoying it to do this because your abilities in what you bring to the table and your similarities to us at that position, so desk took it and man. He took off with it and had a nice career. He ended up the all time. Touchdown leader in I don't know how many yards I'm Ed. Most of the US in yardage I know he's the head of me, so he took the number and did something with it, and now it's looked upon a as A. A prestigious number in cowboy number history lower so now CD coms and I didn't think well. At the different kinds of receive I'm thinking maybe more Bob Gays in five days, benefits correct twenty yards. Cats is Ho career. Okay, CD twenty yards a game breakers, d you know big plays and stuff like that. I'm thinking maybe. Jerry GonNA. Start another legacy going with the number twenty two. Five Days Emmett Smith eating lamp, but now he had other reasons to anoint see with the double eight San. you know from what I hear You couldn't gone wrong with the. Passing it on to see. What do you think about? This new regime might McCarthy because I know you've been following this team as closely as I have even more so because you're still invested in it. Are you seeing things. A little differently with this new regime and and Mike at the helm as it relates use of the decisions to the cowboys have made this off season. Yeah I. Guess You can put somebody reasons why they had such a good draft. You know now you got a different voice in a room, different guy and room looking for different things. I understand once he got. The job he got a he had will. mcclay got real close and they worked together. Will mcclay found out with kind of players of Mike McCarthy's looking for to run his office. Run his football team and will mcclay. Tremendous job went out and got those spikes found those kind of place, and you know so I think his voice in the meetings in the way. They did things having Jerry Admiral this boat out to sea somewhere. Could mess with stuff and I'm wondering. Nobody said it was built for McRae. Are That vote adult? Think so? He's probably back at the headquarters. Feeding Information Right so Jerry forget to him like he normally. Pull them aside and all that kind of stuff. So we'll probably had the final say along with Mike McCarthy in in a lot of the picks that the cowboys made throughout the this draft for sure areas GONNA. Come for you for saying. On the vote Jerry. Now you see. Her now drew we. We talk about the eighty eight legacy. There's another legacy of yours that has been talked about for a long time, and that says one of the great undrafted free agents, not just in cowboys history, but I in NFL history. And I want to find out if this is true because this is something that I've heard but I can't recall if you've ever said this yourself. Is it true because when we talk about these guys that we've talked to Rondell Carter earlier? WHO's undrafted free agent out of? James Madison he said it came down to the forty niners in the cowboys, and he picked the cowboys, and maybe nobody thinks anything of that now, but. When you had your undrafted free agent decision, is it true that it came down to the cowboys and the steelers and we were this close to you being on the other side of that war in? Well, actually a came down between Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Dallas and Pittsburgh was real close to front runner pretty much so because they offered the most money all right. They offered me a signing bonus a fifteen hundred dollars right with the cab I know. But. The cowboys impressed me In my head after I met with the steelers, because the cowboys were there the second day to grab I'm in my college department at the university. They had scout there at the caveat. Hotel calling my house, saying they couldn't believe I wouldn't draft Nana. Nana knock, and you come down to the camelot and. We got. We want you to sign a contract and that type of. So. I said well. I can come down here, but you gotta give me an hour because this bike seventeen rounds of the draft after the twelfth. Round I'm breaking Boon's farm A. My sorrows it, so I had sober up before I went down there so anyway. They offered me a contract right there. A base salary of fourteen thousand five hundred dollars. And, signing bonus of one hundred and fifty dollars. Wow, so I took that over to steal their money and I said to disc out who late Bob. Griffin I told him I said Sir payment at signing bonus in cash. Assigned right now. Pay Me attached seven. Twenty. Seven to ten Nassau got my Saudi bonus with the Dallas cowboys could. Parlay it parlayed into a lot more I. Don't know if they would have been same since. I know I wouldn't Tony Green bag. I'm I thought seriously about Pittsburgh but I don't think they would've turned out as great as it. Did. IF I ended up with the Dallas Cowboys got. Pittsburgh would've never had and Lynn Swann. Therefore, Bite Pittsburgh knows gains. Five would have never made those sketchy. Any Isn't it wildly think about some of those contracts I mean I love a? What was your teammate? The Gut? The horse trailer, which was one of my favorite stories is part of. The Jani water. Charlie waters jolly borders. Yeah, yeah, and. Let's see. Somebody they give us grand. Prix got a Grand Prix. It was green. and. Nobody wanted to green. Funny when I think about my first market mean they didn't pay US anything. In Tyler Texas, sixteen five. A year is what I made. An our big deal was trade, so you'd get like free hair free Japan you took it because you like whatever you wanna give me a sweet. What this deal is, I'd appreciate it. Before, we let you go drew. One of the toughest things that I've watched in the last year. Was I know a lot of people. Push for you to go in the hall of fame. I knew this was the year that you wanted it. You certainly had a career that warrants it. What was it like not getting that? Call and having cameras on? You drew in that moment. was very disappointing and. I was felt like I, said heartbroken. Letdown net type of thing, and only reason is because I had so much confidence that this was going to be the way. I! Get it okay this. according to Rick Gosselin and Charlene Williams and Jerry Bell this was the way for the hall of Fame Voting Committee, to make up for some mistakes that they made along the line, and I thought I was one of the most glaring mistakes that they may not so much because my ego and everything like that, but simply because. You know you voted for decades. And so then. I see how Carmichael go in early I. Said who they must have made a call for him because he's there. You know he's at the studio. Each showing up like that and I said I. Even got a phone call yet so I keep looking at my own in that, but the thing is you know this was the first time I've ever been finals? I've never even been in the room and to be considered. So this is the first time as a final. This and I didn't know how finalists act I thought. If you're a finalist before the have everybody there, you know just in case you do go. And so I had all the TV stations there. I worked for just about every TV station in market, so I knew everybody one guy caused. Can I come the next guy? I heard someone Okinawa comparable next thing you know all the TV stations of air and you know this is so early in the morning, but. you know when to call didn't come down at last pick when I was really really disappointed. And so I showed that emotion that was real. Okay, and so what I hope that comes out of that is not so much. People feel sorry for through tears in and all that. But I. Hope comes at it at the sports. Writer said had this boat understand what this really means us? Okay, you break. Our hearts turned down in such a way that you do you know. And I got turned down I'm at least at home around France and Fam. You know how `Bout Everson walls a couple years ago. He's sitting in a room. Waiting for that knocked to say. Yeah, you're in in that has been friends and family there within no one showed the camera on hand, the disappointment, email or anybody else. That doesn't get in at this point day. Feel so this show that emotion and that's what I explained to. Mr Baker David Baker who called, and they certainly acted. This was disappointed. I didn't get in. He said I was on his list and he doesn't have a boat I was on his list. They can I would be one of the guys go in, so I told. This is hope that the voting committee sees how we feel about this Howard. Port Nisus to us, so don't play no bias game with us. Don't play no political game with US media now let this be a subjective boat based on what we've brought to the league teams in the NFL donut time. We play and don't compare me with all these. Thousand Yard catch receivers you know. What did Michael? Thomas had one hundred forty four. Oh my God. It took me five years ago. But anyway, so hopefully it'll come around. I talked to Rick Gosselin Charlene Jared Bill Gary Myers. They all think that it'll happen, and you know look at Look how God works, guys, you know look at this situation now. We don't even know if there's going to be a ceremony this year. At this point, baseball canceled their hall of fame ceremony. We don't know what the season's going to be like our anything, so I've been texting clip in finding out if teach hurt anything he's. I haven't heard anything about anything solid about what they're gonNA do all sorts, so God put me in a position where sometimes the storms that come in your life. Don't come to disrupt. Disrupt your life. Sometimes they clear path, and this path was going to be a little different for me to get to the NFL Hall of fame. So that's how I look at well I. Know When you've got this hour. It makes so much sweeter when the good thing happens for you. And I know it's getting I know it's GonNa come for you. Look at Charlie long debate. Terrell Owens I remember how devastated he was, of course he just didn't even show up because he was so frustrated with it. I hope that's not the case they don't put. She threw this sort of angst again, but we really really appreciate you coming on the show, always a pleasure. Thanks for having me guys in great stuff, guys admit season form. Thank you here's something. Good is a new show from the Senate women podcast network and Iheartradio it's a great way to start your day on the positive side of life. The current crisis has prompted and inspiring bursts of innovation. That's why we were so excited to learn through our partner Bank of America About Project Isaiah. We started working together to raise the initial money and starting to get meals on the ground. We're approaching it from the vantage. Point of it's not just meal served its jobs saved, and those are the two metrics that really mattered in this, and they also really mattered to Bank of America. We're so grateful to Bank of America for supporting. Here's something good and for supporting organizations across the country who are on the frontlines addressing medical response capacity food insecurity access to learning and providing support to Bonobo populations. I'm Kim as listen to hear something good on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Joining us now is former James Madison defensive end and new cowboys defensive? End Rondell Carter you can follow him on twitter at RC five with four underscores. Don't don't do one underscore two hundred, three hundred. Different people. Not Rondo Colorado Carter's received. Five with four underscores Rondell how you doing? Great asking how you guys. Doing. Excited to have you here, so is there any consideration now? Because I assume you're not going to be five at the next level. They don't really allow that for defense. Is there any consideration for a twitter? Handle Change Now? Yes, probably GONNA change I'm I'm going to keep the CPAP with the switch number one of I'll give you on the second. Get it y'all know won't be on. T. filed. Log will be all see what are they? gave me so we'll see. What was your conversations with the cowboys leading up to the draft? Did you have any yet so misery on first team that I talked to You know like so. We went to I go for national. Championship in Texas We went to the championship in I got a text. You know like the day at the. Soon as the Ahmeti Championship it. I got a text in. The players know the regular not mistaken in believing. It was Stephanie. And I got for money, basically set up a meeting because I had the NFL, PA, and so now i. I that I talked to I that I was like my dad and I was like that look NFL detection. So and then you know moving forward. Talk to them when I got in A. Got My Dallas. Cowboys sat on the date game. Then I talked few times I throughout the whole process, and then I finally talked to him like you know round fours from five ish talked co-starring. She lives coastal. Is Pretty Cool especially going to be the first thing I tried to talk to you. Did you know when if you have in your head that okay? If I go on drafted, Dallas is where I wanna go, or did you have a few teams that you were considering an Dallas ultimately won out. Belching a lot of US twenty five teams. Honestly, they came down to Cisco Dollars. honestly came down to but you know as We just douse the best chance to make a spot. The convention obviously, I was in Texas training for two months, so I got comfortable. Texas. Area and then there was a lot of subliminal awash. In Frisco at the National Championship, they gave us cowboy hats battle the actual Kabwe. My Dad was wearing it the day before the draft all day. I don't know why he decided to wear a cowboy hat. Then you know the balloon that my family got together shaped lake starts. Family. We just redid on literally mnay Liberum. Navy blue bike so I don't know it was a Lotta subliminal messages out today by the way just like Neville Gallimore Neville told us that he went to the car wash, and a woman asked him here in the Dallas area. Are You Dallas? Cowboy any wasn't at the time, but he said he was gonna go back and find her because he doesn't want her to think that heap, he lied to her. But he also trained here I gotta ask you so a guy like novel Gallimore but talk about the guys. They already have on the line. demarcus laureates the possibility of Alden Smith. Radi Gregory coming back when you look at that defensive line, and you look at playing with a guy like having a coach Jim Thome soula. What does that mean to you? Means A lot. You know making making NFL, but you have to maintain. Their you know what I mean and we have people that you can learn from always gives you an opportunity to extend your career. You know learn from. Ella proven vets. You Automated Light Tank, Lawrence and Alex Smith in Randy Gregg. These guys how to play the game! Big Thompson the WHO knows how to teach you know so you get a guy like that coaching you. You have to be nothing more than excited because I don't know it was just like you. You know you're gonNA, learn something new going to be able to be able to develop as a football player. You can do that. It just makes you career going to have much longer I can't wait to come in and learn under those players those. We've heard from the cowboys that They're likely to maintain their four three front. But that they're going to be multiple, that's one of the new buzzwords. This offseason multiple have some three four looks and things like that. When you talked with the cowboys and we're making the decision to come here. Did they talk to you at all about what they envisioned for you? Did they talk about? You know you're going to have your hand in the dirt or did they say? Hey, you're gonNA do some flexible stuff for a Su-. You might stand up sound. You might be rushing off the edge. Did you have any of those type of conversations with them? Of course told me I'll be defensive during the guy. That's basically what I've been doing. I was a guy that I was third. Karma got, but I have stood up before you know what I mean I've had slid. The three technique in passwords you're not. I'll be able to so versatility when I'm out. They hope that gives me a better chance that making it and and I had a had stood up before when I was at rutgers enough drop back into coverage at a term so. Luckily I've done all. fritos day I stood up having entered, their eventually moved inside third down. Pass Rush. So you know hopefully I, can just. I can do all those things hope that gives me shot at making take. You know I did notice this draft. Some of you guys were coming in with people that you know. We talked about novel Gallimore, getting his teammates CD Lamma. Dallas you're getting been NUCCI the backup quarterback. What was the text like? Was it just fire when you guys said Oh? My Gosh were both heading to Frisco. Ashley I call them. You know we had a conversation. He had his head on I have my had on. We were just talking about and it was. It was excited my dad talked. You I mean I've seen his family order face-down them by my brother actually recorded out face down call so you asking? My brother hasn't on his twitter feed. Maybe I'll be able to get it from them, but Yeah Ma'am had a great conversation. You know it was really fun. This be able to talk to each other. Actually we're going to be able to be played with each other Dallas met in that same kinda personality. He's a fun guy so I'll look to that. You were of course James. Madison which is an FCS level school and there's always those questions from people. People about you know the level of competition, and and you know. How prepared is this person to step into the NFL after coming from that level? But you know you did have a couple games against some bigger schools West Virginia I know. You had a good game against them. You played against NC state had good games against them. You start out at rutgers, which is a power five school So do you think that you're better prepared for for this jump? Then it may look like at first glance of a guy coming from an FCS school. Yeah, you know what's funny is. People really get it, but you know FCS. Level at CA Mark Conference is the toughest player you know. There's a lot of there me coming from the big ten love when it comes down to the CIA I. Mean obviously you have your big ten six seven three hundred thirty pounds. You know tackles, but you'll get your fish in those in the as well you know, so. It's not like just went down to a level. In a conference in is like no competition, you know the competition is the end of anybody plays in dealt though, and then only that like I said we played those at the teams in those games excel, and then luckily I had the chance to play the NFL PA. Game a win against all. Esp. You know so, and I did well against them as well so I mean. I really doesn't matter because I'll do show like unprepared because I've had the ruckus experience I played in the toughest conference Indosuez in the NFL. When I was able to excel as well so unprepared. We are so excited to have you on this podcast in excited to talk to you in the locker and win. That ever happens here. We wait for sort of news about this pandemic, and how it relates to the football season training camp, but wish you the best of luck in. We'll see a sued. APPRECIATE IT! We're now joined by Ron Slaven NFL agent with sports stars. You might recognize him as late. Vanda rushes agent. You've got quite a few guys with the. ORLANDO, Gangetic as well Rod, so we're excited to get you in your like we've got a lot. To cover specifically late Vander Ash, I know a lot of people have been concerned about that injury. The entry that sustains last year. What's the latest on him? Lanes? Grade is she has got. He's flying back Dallas now because people and surging off season can be silly and get treatment and do the things need to get ready for the season, so he was doing great. Great stronger things, and then when all quarantine they shot down. You back a little bit, but now he's back now actually today, so you can get on the train staff and get back to Italy does here and look. We know he's an avid hunter grew up his his father is one of those outfitters that takes you off to go. Find the bears. I saw he and his lovely wife Mattie and been out doing that. So I I would imagine if you're able to hold a gun. In that whole region on top is probably okay or He says he feels about her knowledge fell. In his life and I always had some tightness in their, the not let has been fixed. He's looser and. Range of motion emotional things about he played last year last season, trying to attack with our I. Know there a lot of talk about MS tackles, but. He has a staint early on than once. He got landed on affiliate game, which is just a one hundred million. Deal where somebody were to fall on the way they fell. As the Circumstances! That was unfortunate, but Now gets a face now. He's coming into the season. Ready to go and I think you're going to give him the battling. And Twenty twenty. Iran in terms of you know we talk about late Vandereycken, and he's obviously. Boise and and Jane referenced you. You've had a few boise. Guys come through. I feel like you were one of the. You were probably the agent ahead of that. The Boise Explosion in the NFL rep a lot of guys there. And people talk about the Dallas Boise connection that kind of make jokes about one of your guys Curtis Weaver told us when we talked to him before the draft that that was what he said to the cowboys, you know. Oh, I know where your pipeline and things like that. What is it? Do you think about the Boise pipeline? The Dallas like so much and I mean just your experience with that program with those players. What do you think it is? That brings Dallas to that well so often. Since two thousand eight. The one thing that in the reason, once Orlando Orlando was no different personality than most because he's got on a shoulder. Angry on everything all the tire, but it worked for Orlando and it were. You know as a player in the reason you lasts in the league because he always wanted to prove everybody wrong i. ask them and tally Boise dies that every. Attack Wells at the time of the two thousand eight nine ten eleven twelve years Boise, they go to Jane, back, down the order of the Golden Georgia in Atlanta, beat them in the opener. Day Ministry. Need for us, so go to these power. Five teams always open the season approval they win, and then the rest of the year you're trying to. Keep credibility in. Keep your ranking because reclaiming them on West, so these players is the guys better these guys while they never respected yet and the healing now in the comedy NFL, too. I mean for all the. Bears you who in the first? Lady in the first round it was. Shaming land in Doug. Martin, but they had all these really good players coming out that were that were on the sayings of sound proud latency scenarios where. was, the bryner lacquer to point Jane you and I talked about to the draft that because Marinelli was there and will lay in bed bloom all there is. Will lead to the draft lady he needed to do online dominated as it was great for meetings in business or great, so he was the perfect storm came by the cowboys in nineteen, but the rest of the common shoulders everybody wrong for whole time during the lead in Azure, allowed starting to for six years now. Forty Yar Andrei every year low child, always saying I have to get better I have to prove to people at I belong, so it doesn't matter even after you get paid. They always have show the. Older not good enough, or you wanted to patch while you are SEC. When in reality is voicing. When You look at Leyton and a guy who was a walk on at Boise, and and had to fight to even make that team and get the scholarship and and everything i. View as just kind of a quiet guy, and you know the down to Earth Town Guy, but I mean. He did have that background of being a walk on. Do you think he also has a little bit of that chip on his shoulder? I don't know that people look at him that way. Even though you thousand, nine, hundred eighty still wants to prove. Prove out, but can be the best linebacker in the NFL. I trump cake. I made it. I'm done. He wants to prove it brewery rhyming people. Laden was. The Basle of Land State of Idaho. In High School tournaments. Guys for the NBA Labor Dot com this. Late wasn't Yang di one offers that allow. These guys were because he was playing for a team high. But I believe that the basketball around he must be what had a walk on Boise state for basketball late in Hollywood and play in the NBA. You know forty years for six five. People he can shoot from twenty five feet all day long mid his. Family! All Sisters Played College Basketball Basketball Player, so the Vassallo background to is another reason why so good football because of the lateral movements? Witness but I think no matter what lay on an. Excel rods agencies is GONNA pop up as An Jane can attest to this I, don't really be as much I. Tell People played bass. Why would been the NBA One? What on the seal and probably killed those. Relating This is why ron is so good as an agent A. My agent's pretty awesome. Was William Morris, but I want him to speak this highly of me Require due to ask you obviously as a lot of time with Mike Nolan in this new defense, but Mike McCarthy saying it's going to be a four three defense with three or four principles. How do you see late and fitting into this scheme now? Bin Laden is GONNA have to be your body's with McCoy post, so there's GonNa be. A lot more lanes for him to run through notches sideline to sideline in the past defense. He's going be able to shooting lowest gas and made a bunch of ways. Think. The game that would stick out. Meet away that they played that game. Was The saints game two years ago a Thursday night game. Thirteen tattling foul was was. We're lane with shooting the gassing? stops in fourth in one on. Mira and Ingram and then also made play sideline sideline. He'll sniff. Some low screen passes the Chimera. FANS WANNA. Know what they're gonNA see from Layton in this defense attorney asked the game where they schemed up. The same way. You're going to see more with. Now you're not just the agent for Leyton Vander Ash I know a lot of people are familiar with you as the agent for Alden, Smith who a Lotta cowboys fans are really excited about I. Think they kind of saw that coming out of nowhere? You sure didn't you were probably work working things you know behind the scenes for for several weeks several months leading up to it what was it that made you confident in Alden Smith and in that you wanted to represent them. You haven't wrapped him his entire time the league, so so what drew you to Alden Smith and and made you believe in him that he's ready to go. December and said all you know has. been sober since June July. He's back in football. He's been trained with me and my jam. Bungee coaches have been through Air Mike McCarthy went through their daughter trains there at the same jam. You know much of their own. People have seen them and then fuel lead I. Know in call instead of the day Is in good place so all in Canada Dallas. Here Decided that we were gonNA. Work together in wanted to combine had a letter. That was showing that the reinstatement was going to happen or that. We're working on reinstatements Selanne. Team started calling me. All I wanna go somewhere where he was comfortable, so fangio's Denver P. General. John Schneider has done a really nice job. Lean to the draft in Holland came out. Living Maybe move up all in. The formulation people even expected in Dallas because McCarthy all in had get it off pretty well. and then Jim. Thome Sulu was coach in San Francisco. So get relationship there. So Nj and the Johns family is pretty tight, so. There's a lot of different visa that fit. I DIDN'T WANNA. Make a decision for all the DALLAS. I didn't want you know in final. Ron's is pushing the cowboys as rise watch guys on the cowboys now I want all make the SUV or south so of the season when I, no matter Latin. Evelyn Delaware out all the time, right? The reason guys away last ones leave for three and a half years so aligned to make sure that he felt helpful with it. And then once we went through the process and talk to the teams e. call me and was like it was march. Thirty needs like. I Know Dallas. Is the place so We were contract and then a known J. for putting on a show. April first. April fools only Smith's earliest cowboy It was real and all here in Dallas Mutual on Friday and stain ready for only a reinstatement that happened sooner or later. Why should fans? The cowboys feel comfortable with Alden cutting back? There's probably a lot of fans out there that have had either substance abuse, problems or family members that have substance abuse problems, and you just have to. You have faded that the person is gun. At some point in their life figured out that do I. wanted you know during myself to death? No, we have a major obio in problem in this country who I want y'all myself on those things or do we want? To, get our life in order in straight think collins in a really good spot in. Alabama Holland's problem in. You knows the problem I think he. Recognizes that no, he's like I always was blaming everybody else, but it was on me, and I can't always played a bit. So once sees Once you figure that out place, so he's I mean every time I'm around. I see more and more things all. He's incredible shape house only. If he if He is the player he was last. He's on the field and he's this much bigger and stronger. Fear for for. You know the the cowboys are or have been known to take on players with you know questionable issues in their past, or or basically you know they're willing to believe in guys and redemption as Jerry told Jane near the end of last year that. He believes in redemption he he's A. He's a comeback story. Guy. And because of that when they've had some of these guys come onto the team before there. It's been typical of the cowboys that they'll set them up with some sort of accountability system or accountability! Partner somebody's. For that is anything like that in place for all, the cow was talked about, or are they just comfortable with him coming in here and and operating on his own I admire the Jones family for giving people chances you know. Fans turn on players to quit I feel like people make mistakes lot dancing on have made mistakes. Nobody's perfect nightmare Jones's for. Always forgiving allow these guys. Second Chances that a lot of teams wouldn't. All in the reason, we have so much interest as everybody knew was a good person he wasn't. He wasn't out there doing allow things that were sound bottom was this all was was out and. They recognize that and they know that you know. If he has the right people around what he's going to be okay. segment of your question is. We myself because I'm a control freak is is going to manage the situation. They haven't had. They haven't been perfect. Here not is perfect with the wrong way. Unfortunately, when you have people with problems, there's other people that come out of the woodwork that all our experts or they wanna be the bathing. They can solve those problems while if you're a real expert to stay away from class. No I'm GONNA handle it. We have all in support system around them as a very small circle and. I think that's the way we would be successful speaking of being successful. You've obviously done a couple of contracts for the cowboys as agents. DAK! Prescott, a contract to think a lot of us thought we're going to get done last summer still hasn't gotten done and then the signing of Andy Dalton talked to me about the art of the deal as it pertains to the cowboys. Obviously, this is like me asking you to diagnose a patient that you haven't seen the XRAYS. Ed's actually gone in there and done the blood work, but as somebody on the outside. Do you think that this deal gets done in? What's it going to take for it to get done? I'm well I I don't think any. Effect on Dak Prescott. Times, do we see teams? They're starting. quarterback gets hurt and then the season's over, because they don't have somebody capable backing up no disrespected who've arosh but Andy Dalton, quarterback. They got him out Berry, low number of his family's here. In Dallas makes a lot of sense because quarantine and. He spends time with his family. He's in Dallas. The Minnesota Train Campbell was on whether it's them July middle. Whenever thinks. He can drive over armed were makes a lot sense for Andy. Because that's starting quarterback and. That's number should be nice number looking back at Eh, just circling back to late and I'm curious because I don't know that people ever know this sort of aspect of Layton and who, as a player and as a person. I know the cowboys. There was some talk last year at the end of last year that some people were like. Did the cowboys get the leadership that they needed on defense? was there somebody there? That was the driving force, and with late and being out there for that last half of the season stuff started turning up Do you think late somebody who can step in the season and supply some that kind of step into that role? I late always talked about. Years Three being the year where you know where he was enough in the locker room, being around, the people are not aware that leadership role can take a fact. I think that Laden is any good place now. He's earned the respect of teammates. The way worse way handles himself. This year relating should step up and become the leader that I'm sure the cowboys would love. To be reminds me so much of Sean. Lee Bobby Brown, would i? I see the way that he approaches film Trent. The way that he carries himself, so that's good news and the fact that you've got Sean Lee back yet. Another year, especially for looking at least three four sets, just needing some extra linebacker. Certainly looks like they've started to improve steam something. I didn't feel was necessarily addressed a Ron. Thank you so much for your time. I love that you're no BS guy. So we'll definitely get you back here on this show, since this was your inaugural of voyage here on the boys and girl podcast joining the show. Talk to you soon, thank you. All right well, what informative show I've really enjoyed this off season getting to know not only some of these prospects leading up to the draft, but now the guys that are on this cowboys roster been really impressive them so far in just love some of those nuggets from drew. Pearson, run slaven so again. Those of you that are continuing to follow us here on our podcast on the heard. Don't forget. We're now up on Youtube. Jeb You can follow us there and you can see all these. Video Interactions We have and some of the. Fun Extra aspects I'm with that in these conversations like we've had some really great conversation. This is a good bachelor. Rookies I feel like I. I think we I. Think Dallas lucked out this year in terms of from the. Perspective that I got a lot of good guys this year, we liked to call ambbassador. These guys are GonNa be good ambassadors, of the cowboys, an the league and let's hope that we don't have hot takes exposed in. 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RTCD #170:  Week 13 College Football Preview

The College Draft with Ross Tucker

34:42 min | 2 years ago

RTCD #170: Week 13 College Football Preview

"Four cell phone code one strike and listen to Russ stuck in Philadelphia Eagles film junkie. Fran. Duffy breakdown the top college prospects on another tasty edition of the college draft. Yes. Daddy, soda time. And it is the college draft podcast. And this is insane. Because we are going into week thirteen the twelve game for almost every team. Not all but almost every team and it's rivalry weekend. It's really the end of the season for the most part next week. We'll have conference championship games. Army navy then we will get into both. I'm trying to get sad to be honest with you because we know how many months we have of no football hard to believe here. We are at week thirteen when I say we I mean Fran Duffy at FTSE three does such a terrific job as the film. Delfi eagles video scouting guru. Really enjoy hearing his thoughts on the best college players each and every week what he saw from the week that was who we need to watch out for in the week. That will be I'm Ross Tucker at Rostock Renna fell former NFL ofensive Lyman, you can of course, always check me out on Twitter and Instagram at Ross, Tucker NFL or on Facebook Facebook dot com slash Ross. Tucker and fell France. Let's get into it. Let's start with just some of your quick reactions to last week's games. What did you watch and what stood out here? Yeah. You know, it was kind of build as a boring weak of house football. But you and I both know Ross there's no such thing as a boring weak of college football. So there were a couple of games that I was kinda tuned into you. Gotta love what Washington state and Mike Leach have done this year. In Gardner Minhsiu the quarterback. There has got to be one of the best stories in college football. He set a school record was seven touchdowns on Saturday night. If they went on Friday night against Washington and the apple Cup. We'll move onto the Pac twelve title against Utah. I'm not sure that anybody would have predicted that championship game back in the preseason. You look in the big twelve. Yeah. Texas got a big win against Iowa State twenty four ten I've got questions about Sam etlinger as far as being a pro prospect. I haven't studied him yet. But that's just the sense watching him on TV. But those receivers for the longhorns really appear to be pretty impressive Colin Johnson's a big body kid looks pretty savvy as a rat run or watching on TV and then little Jordan Humphry. You know, he's he brings them some juice as well on the outside. And then, you know, I'm always a big fan of of upsets in college football. I got admit I was kind of pulling for Maryland there in the noon games on Saturday afternoon. I turned that game on in the fourth quarter. And after Ohio State had to fight tooth and nail. So that touchdown to open overtime Maryland comes back like score on the first play. And I got to say, I know it's easy to say this point, you know, to Heinz. Being twenty twenty but I would have kicked their forced Ohio State at try and score. Again. I don't know how you saw about it. But they end up failing on the two point conversion the play call. There was great the receiver was wide open the back of quarterback just missed him and the types fall. But with how easy the turps made. It seem overtime like I almost say like, let's make a high stake. Do it again just kind of up the stress level and there's on there. And but it was a good day college football. Yemen. I had a chance to see Miami play Virginia Tech in person. And that was watching a lot of that Ohio State Maryland game on TV before my game. And first of all it was great to be at lane stadium down in Blacksburg incredible environment when the hokies enter the field, they say, it's even more intense for a night game. But just the whole crowd jumping up and down really really something truly cool and unique, and I can see why people love being a part of it. But during the actual game, man. It was the Miami defense that stole the show. We'll say this. There's a kid I want you to keep an eye on redshirt sophomore wide receiver. I probably mentioned this after the Florida state game for Virginia. Tech name Damon Hazelton that he'll be a name to watch going into next year. But was to me from this game friend. I mean, Miami has pros everywhere. On defense everywhere. I mean, it was you know, Joe Jackson at one end. He's a junior Jonathan Garvan who they tell me they think he'll be a first round pick the sophomore D end on the other side, Gerald Willis number nine, obviously having an unbelievable year as defensive tackle the linebacker trio is very good. Was thoroughly impressed by shack quarter min his range and interception almost took back to the house. But I think what's out to me almost more than any of that friend was actually Miami's DB's. I mean, really, you know, they're very hyped up. Jakulan johnson. Michael Jackson, two of the fourteen semi finalists for the Thorpe. Award. Jackson has not had as good of a senior year as he did last year. But he's still has impressive size made a number of really nice plays in the ball to Kwan Johnson was everywhere and Frank. Between him wearing number four and Jeff Thomas on offense for the hurricanes wearing number four. They've got some explosive play makers Sheldrick wed Ryan red wine made some play. He's a junior that's played. Well, and they get a little corner trade in bandy number two. Only a sophomore he made all kinds of plays in this game and really has all year. So I was impressed for sure by the Miami defense. I would imagine a good chunk of those guys are going to play on Sundays. We'll see how many get drafted. We'll see how many stick, but Virginia Tech has seven guys. Fran from last year's defense that our own fell rosters right now seven, and that's one of the reasons why they're just frankly, not as good I think Miami has the potential to a year from now us be saying that they've got five or six guys with Jackson. And Johnson and Willis and we'll see if Jackson the D N goes pro and quartered on. We'll see what happens some of these juniors. But they have a lot of future pros that I'm guessing are locked in in part because of omega six cognitive boost cognitive boost is the boost you need to get their look, it's not about ten cups of coffee. It's not about crushing coffee or five hour energy. At least give something like this try that has alpha and omega omega threes. You've heard all about them critical to brain health it. They also have alpha-gpc in him. It's all about years of clinical research, and you know, how I feel about stuff like this. The key is the two powerhouse ingredients, but the sixty day money back guarantee. So they're giving you a chance to get it for sixty percent off a one month. Supply when you go to Olmecs boost dot com slash draft today to get that sixty percent off so omega six boost dot com slash draft. That gets you the sixty percent off. And then you get to sixty day money back guarantee. O M A X B O S T dot com slash draft. So I also wanted to get into with you some of these other games. But also, we we gotta get into some of the senior bowl acceptances. We've got some guys that are starting to accept them. So again, I saw on the opener against Penn State. Jalen more from apps state is first up the running back. Yeah. He's five ten two hundred and ten pounds. And I watched him his junior season. When I watched them, I saw an explosive athlete, and he's got straight line speed the burn. He's got the ability to pick up chunks of yardage in a hurry. I think he's got solid vision overall as a runner, and I think he can be an effective one cut guy on. Outside zone scheme to the next level. He runs behind his pads, you rarely gets knocked backwards. He packs a little bit more punch than I thought when I first turn the tape on. Honestly, any of the big concerns? I do have are really I guess it would start with the ability to make that first man miss from what I saw from him as a junior. He did struggle to do that he's strong. But too often he would go down on first contact. I think he'll be that type of back Ross, honestly for people that are, you know, fancy football people right now, you know, he's going to be a product of scheme and usage and line play the next law. I think if he lands in a position where there's opportunity I think he will be an intriguing player, but I'm not sure that he's going to be. He's quite talented enough to be a primary back. I think he's not quite dynamic enough to be a satellite player. He's he's an intriguing player. I like the way that he plays keep in mind too that he just missed he missed time as a junior last year and he missed most of this season with an injury as well. I think it was a foot issue so medically. There's some concern there as well. He's got a lot that he can prove he can come back healthy for this game. It's just a matter of if that's going to happen in late January. How 'bout LSU tied in foster Moreau? Yeah. He's one of my favorite tight ends that I studied so far, you know, he's six four he's over to fifties. Got long arms. He's not going to be a certify pass catching threat. I think he's a marginal athlete, but he's got reliable hands. Each is not a mismatch guy in space, but the area where I think he really offers. The most value is as a blocker. He's really really competitive is used in a lot of different ways throughout his career as a blocker. He works hard to finish. And everything that he does if he can just get better route runner, I think there's some starting potential there at the end of the day. I do think he's probably more of a solid backup quick note on him to I talked with his former quarterback Danny at link back at the combine last year. It was just asking you who who are the guys down the road, and he really hyped up borrow to me as a guy on that LSU roster that would transition well to the NFL, and I think he was spot on without assessment. I really like Morrell I think he's definitely gonna to leak. What about? Guy. No you like you've talked about as well Kentucky. Josh allen. Yeah. Honestly, he's one of the most improved players in college football this year. I remember watching him early in the summer because remember he was getting like top half of the first round buzzing mock Trask back in like may and June watch this kid, and I came away. Just I was left wanting. Yeah, I saw skinny edge guy was kind of a jack-of-all-trades master of none. He would drop back in coverage and look pretty fluid moving a reverse. He would stretch a set a strong edge in the run game. He used his hands while at the point of attack. He'd get after a quarterback, but he wasn't really polish with anything. He did. And he lacked the power to collapse the pocket consistently. He was like two thirty playing as a junior last year fast forward. Now, a few months he packed over twenty pounds of muscle this offseason. So he's up a little bit over to fifty. He's also little bit more refined with his hands as a pass rusher. So you're talking about a kid now who's six three six four. He's over to fifty. I like his get off you can win with speed. But he can also win with power now as well that extra weight gives them a little bit more pop on contact push the pocket. His rush skill. I think is still a little bit of a work in progress. But the tools are there. And I thought one thing that Scott's and evaluators are going to love as well, especially the old school guys are that a lot of this production. This year is coming in crunch time late and gains when his defense needs a big play. He's coming up with a sack or a sack fumble and giving the ball back to his offense for a guy who racked up last year. Six of his seven sacks in the first half of the season. And just really fell off down the stretch last year. It seems like they put more of a priority on him on finishing this off season. And that's shown up Allen has really helped himself. I would think he's right up there with guys like quitting Williams. I've really just kind of improved their stock from twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen and I think he's got the to further do that down in mobile. I'm really really excited to see him in person because he's a guy who plays as a three four outside linebacker. I think a lot of teams are going to say that. Yeah, he can do that. But also he can be. That premier pass rusher from three point stance. Actually, like a more is a pass rusher with his hand in dirt. But certainly has the ability to move in reverse a linebacker as well. So he's just a very very intriguing player that you know, if you would ask me two months ago is he going to go in the first round. I would say no, I really don't see it. Now. I think there's a pretty good chance based off what I've seen so far in two thousand eighteen what about Texas Charles Amon who? Yeah. Different kind of guy for sure I mean, this is a big bodied kid. He's over six five. He's just under two hundred and eighty pounds. He's got a freak show. Wingspan? I have to key in a little bit more on his senior film. But this is a big strong powerful kid. He does he does not win with athleticism off the edge. But he can certainly play the rod, and he could certainly collapse the pocket I like him best as defensive end to can play the run on early downs. And then I think down the road maybe offer a little bit of of pass rush value from the inside he's a high floor player to me. It doesn't have a really high ceiling. But I bet a lot of teams view him as a potential started. Because he fits. A lot of teams look for physically on the edge. I liked the way he plays. And he's he's shown up every time. I've watched Texas this year as well. What about some smaller school guys that are getting Old Dominion ocean? Say his last name is his last name because the minis za minis Charleston, West Virginia D line, John Kamensky, New Mexico state linebacker, Terrel Hanks. Yeah. Yeah. In the senior bowl is always good it on earth thing. Some of those guys. Phil savage or now, Jim Nagy. They they've got a great network of scouts around the league. And they talked to those guys and say, hey, who do you want to see on the big stage who do you wanna see down there? And so they're able to find some of these small school guys and Zimin as is really been on the radar since the spring. I think when you talk about Old Dominion quietly put guys into the league over the last couple of years. So there's been some buzz about him. And when you talk about pass rush plan. I think this kid's got a pretty good one. He uses his hands. Pretty well. He mixes in a lot of different pass rush. Moves he flashes. That ability win with power. He is a little bit stiff, and he doesn't have the greatest first step. So the upside is a bit of a question, Mark. But he's been productive. I think he's going to stick in the league. I am excited to watch them on film from this year. And then you talk about the Charleston, West Virginia, kid, John Kaminsky. I knew nothing about this kid before he was announced with a senior bowl. So I made it a point to go and watch him as soon as he was announced. And here's all you need to know he showed up on campus as a two hundred and eighteen pound option quarterback out of small town, Ohio. Five years later here today. He's six foot five two hundred and eighty five pound defensive end in their three four scheme. He lines up everywhere on that d- line. He's been crazy productive throughout his career. He plays with a really high motor. And he's got the strength to hold up pretty well at the point of attack. As is typically the case with any small school guy with Kaminski it's going to come down to how he's going to show up and make sure you kinda show that you belong. He dominated his level of competition. He stands out as soon as you turn the tape on each just bigger and faster than everybody else with of the two level, which is what you need to see. Now, it's going to be all about. How's it gonna look what he's taking on an offensive lineman from Alabama or Wisconsin? Or Clemson or Mississippi State that's going to be the question last year the kid from Ford. Hey state Nathan shepherd. He really stood out down at the senior bowl. And that helped him put them in day two of the draft. We'll see if Kaminsky can do the same in January. But I think that the tools are there for an intriguing player. And then you mentioned tarot Hanks from New Mexico state. I I like to skip back in the summer. We talked about him when we did our preview of the top. Spects outside of the power five because I watched his junior film. I liked him. I saw athletic kid. He can line up wherever you need a linebacker to up and he can make plays from sideline to sideline. I think he's built for today's NFL from a physical standpoint. My biggest concern, honestly, outside of the fact that he's only thirty was that. I don't think he always took great angle. So the football, and he did find himself out of position a little more than I would have liked. But overall, he's athlete. He's explosive. He's physical. There's a lot there to work with. I think he's got three potential in the NFL. Finally, what about Houston cornerback is Ahah Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. I mean this kid I watched him over the weekend for the first time. He's a pretty intriguing kid. I actually talked to his defensive coordinator over the course of the summer marked off Rio. And I talked a lot about Oliver. And you got a sense of what was off the field. And just ask them. You know, hey, who are you excited about Johnson is one of the first players? He brought up. He's got impressive size. He's six to two hundred pounds got long arms. He's got the speed to recover. Vertically? Make plays down the field. He's a former lied out there in Houston. So not only can he go up and play the ball. But I was particularly impressed with his feel for route concepts down the field and deep zone coverage as well. Now, I do think he's a little bit. Stiff has changed direction. Skills are a little bit of a question. Mark for me. I washed three games. I'm not quite sure how much of that is physical. How much of it is mental and just trusting what he's seeing says he's still adjusting to play in the corner spot. But you know, big long kids with boss skills. We say this all time whereas with corners, if you're tall and your long, and you've got boss kills and you can run typically those guys don't fall too, far even. If there really raw. So I could see a team seeing him as a day to pick even though he may not quite be ready to play right away. The traits are there to the point where if he has a really really good week. I bet he could start hearing from top fifty buzz. Like, I really I really do think that then again, he could go down there and go the other way too. So I think this is a really really big week for him. When it's all said and done, let's get to some other invites you can just rattle off. And then we'll get into some of the other news around college football. Yeah. You know, the Penn State quarterback trace McSorley, he reportedly got an invite nor wet northwestern quarterback Clayton Thorson gotten invite. I think probably got better tools McSorley, certainly has been the better college player over the course of his career. So it'll be interesting to see those two guys side by side. I'm assuming that they would both be on the north squad. Umass wide receiver. Andy Isabela got invited. Not an official acceptance yet. Do this kid is intriguing man. I just why we talked about him last week in the matchup for Georgia. He was really productive. And again, like sixteen catches against Georgia this week, but Isabelle as an intriguing guy. Oh, man. I mean, he's quick. He's explosive. He tracks the ball. Well in the air. I think he's got some savvy to them as a route runner. He's small that's going to be the big question is size is going to be a concern. And I do think, you know, his hands. There are a lot of double catches on film. So that's going to be the one interesting thing seeing him in person obvious to see the official measurements of his hands. When they do come in at the senior bowl because look hand size. We said it's all the time when it comes to measurable. It's not an issue until it's an issue. And I do think that there are some times where he can be a little bit questionable at the catch points. So something interesting to watch their with Isabelle offensive, line wise. There's a small school kid Titus Howard from Alabama state that I haven't dug into yet. But I've heard some good things there. Kansas state's Dalton Richner you. And I both watched him over the summer, we weren't as hired him as others. But he he's still being mentioned in first rounds of mock draft, which I still not quite sure that I see northern Illinois MAC Scharping as well. He had a couple of big time games this year against Florida state and some other big time schools so interesting to see that some of that matchup off the edge Michigan's. We've talked a lot about him Carl Granderson from Wyoming has a pretty good first step, and it has the ability to bend. The you talked about Miami, D tackle, Gerald Willis earlier. He got invited to the game. I'm sure he'll be down there. That'll be a big opportunity for him both on and off the field and then the two corners. We just talked about a couple of weeks ago temples Rocky's in the transfer from Presbyterian, and then Penn State's Amani or awas the first year starter there for the line. So we're seeing a lot of invites role in I heard about the Delaware safety, nausea, Adderley that a he just accepted, actually just recently. So I watched that kid late in the summer early in the fall and based off his junior fill. This is a Philly kid. I was pretty intrigued with what? So I've gotten word that some scouts were really high on him. This is a kid who's built like a corner. He started his career at the blue hands as a corner. So he's got that skill set. He's still young only be a twenty year old rookie, but he's athletic. He reads routes well from the secondary's a four year starter. I can't wait to watch them this year and get a better sense of how he saw things from the safety spot. And how he ran the alley. I thought that they were starting traits there with that kid so zero from Delaware as well as a guy to watch he's going to be down there in mobile. So there's a couple other topics. We need to bring up for in an I thought one of the most interesting things that happen in college football from draft perspective last week was Thursday night. When Ed Oliver and major Applewhite got into a little tiff on the sideline over him wearing a jacket that suppose the only for guys that are playing in the game. Major Applewhite kind of try to tug it off of them and Oliver supposed left the stadium at halftime curious to get your thoughts friend. Well, you know, it's it's funny because I mentioned earlier that I talked with Mark dantonio the defense coordinator that I was an interview we did over on the journey of the draft podcast back in the summer and everything I've read and everything from talking with the with coach about him is that you know, he's a blue collar kitties kitties, a really hard worker. So this this occurrence. Honestly, kind of caught me off guard. I wasn't really expecting something like this, and I caught up on on Friday morning and just kind of took all that it. I don't I don't know what your overall thoughts are looks like he's obviously competitive, and I there's there's a lot of details that we're not going to know because we don't know how healthy at Oliver is. Or isn't. We know Houston hasn't had quite the season that they expected it's late in the year. Does he want to go out and risk of self is if he's not one hundred percent healthy? Then again, it was also like fifty degrees. Like, do you need the big jacket? Like, I don't know. It's. It's an interesting situation. I get what mitt where it major Applewhite's coming from. Because you don't want to try and say that this kid's above everybody else. If you're telling everybody else on the sideline not to wear that jacket. Why should never be able to wear the jacket? It's it's a tough situation. I I don't know what your overall what was the first thing that went through your mind when you first saw it thought it was a real bad look for both of them. That should not be handled on the sideline like that. Thought may drop a white trying to tug it off was a really bad. Look them. Them going at each other is a bad. Look, I don't know how that helps major Applewhite with recruiting when the best player may be like in school history. You're kind of embarrassing on national television. That's very smart. I mean handle it at halftime. I thought would have been much better way to go about it, you know, behind closed doors, and Fred Oliver, you know, I don't know enough to know about what the rules are what he was told. But here what anybody says, it's a lot more in my guests about the fact that he wasn't playing then the jacket. I don't care what major Applewhite says, my guess is. It was a lot about the fact that Ed Oliver's now playing, and I think the fact that he left the stadium is probably not a good look now. I also think you know, he's handling it a little differently. I don't know if he'll play again this year. I tend to doubt it, and it almost feels like it'd be better cleaner. Whatever if you. Did the Nick Bosa and just made it known? You know, it's like where he's seen on the field before the game. Throwing around the football jumping around having fun. He's got the knee injury. Just not it's not a great look for him right now. We know that was Mike MacIntyre fired. Or just report that he's going to be. I think it might be reports I have to look at. I know I saw the news go across the ticker like a million times on Sunday. So. It seems like that's what's going to happen. And if that's the case the one guy to keep an eye on would be the quarterback, Stephen Montesquieu's, a junior talented kid. I haven't studied them yet. But I've heard a lot of good things. I know our buddy Greg Cosell was really intrigued by Montas studying over the summer. So he's a name to watch. They've got a couple of guys on defense that are younger as well to keep an eye on the potential guys declare but Montas will be the big name. Any other guys got chance to study recently? Yeah. The one guy that I really feel like I need to bring up before we get into matchups this week is Washington state's left tackle, Andre Dillard. Look, I did it a couple of weeks ago where I went through his film. I was really really impressed. He's a three year starter on the blindside athletically. I was just so impressed with how under control he was. I like his feet I like balance he's a natural need bender. He's never on the ground. He's used to playing on an island there as well. Because of those wide splits in that air raid offense with Mike Leach up front. He sees things. Really quickly impasse, bro. I love the how uses his hands in the passing game. He's got a heavy punch. When he gets his hands on defenders usually the battles over the questions with him. I think or that he can play a little bit straight legged at times a little bit high part of that is that they never have him. Just put his hand in flag football. So some people are going to questionably to play out of a three point stance, which whatever it is. You know, some guys that turns some people off, but depending on the scheme they on the coach that could be an issue in the run game. I think he can be. A little bit slot with his hands as well. He's not really like a true glassy eater kind of Mahler in the run game. So that may rub people the wrong way. But I really really liked the kid. I he I think he's going to be a good starter at the left tackle or guard. I could see some people like him inside. But this is this is a good player. I think he's a first second round type of town. Well, there's going to be a lot of first second round type of talent on display Thursday Friday Saturday, it'll be a veritable Schwarz's board of college football rivalry games. Having a chance to play in a bunch of ivory games in my life. Man. There really is nothing. Like, let's go head to head. And by the way, you can bet on all of these rivalry games over at bed online dot AG using the promo code podcast one. So I've told you guys about it before if you haven't done it yet. Now's a good time. You get a fifty percent. Welcome bonus. When you use that code podcast one over at bed, online dot AG. Huge college football weekend fell NBA NHL, whatever it is that tickles your fancy and that way, you get at least an account number. So if in when a win the podcast one sports that challenge again, you can be one of the people that get one hundred dollars credited in your bed online Dutt AG account. So what do we got friend? I mean, we got Thursday night. Ole miss Mississippi State in the bowl. We got the civil war Friday night. Oregon Oregon state the apple Cup, Washington Washington. Stay iron bowl, Alabama, Auburn Michigan. Ohio State, Clemson, South Carolina, Notre Dame, USC Florida. Florida state Stanford UCLA unbelievable. Three days of college football. What are the specific individual matchups? You look in it. He L let's just start with a couple of quarterbacks. I think you look at the iron bowl certainly jarred stood him. This is John enormous test for him against his Alabama defense. We know how that group is just chock full of talent. So if stood them does declare I guarantee you one of the first games that evaluators will be watching. We'll be this game. And just seeing how he reacts to that pro style defense with just so much blue chip talent at all three levels. You look down at the bowl with ole miss Mississippi State on Thursday night. Jordan, Tom who was a senior quarterback. We haven't spent a lot of time talking about really wasn't a full time starter and told this did start a handful. Games over the course of his career when shape Patterson was out of the lineup. But Jordan, Tom was been very very productive this year. Obviously a talented receiving corps their four ole miss so take on Mississippi State, and that defense, you know, we talked about all those guys at all three levels, sweat and Simmons and Peters Jonathan Abram. And all those guys, you know, Leo Lewis, and it's a good defense. Orissa state. So big test Africa Orden, Tom. What about what else do we have in terms of quarterbacks versus tub defenses? Yeah. I think you you look around the of Michigan quarterback shape passionate. He's got a big test here against us Ohio State defense that seems down but certainly could still get after defensive line chase young Draymond Jones. And all those guys up front will be a big test. Then you look at running backs against linebackers Damian Harris who I think was out with a concussion on Monday. Monday's practice. We'll see if he's able to go Saturday against the Auburn, you know, that that second level that Auburn defense that defensive line is very good. But they've got to seniors at the second level of Daryl Williams and desha Davis. Davis a little bit of a throwback. Dr Williams more built for today's game. And that he can kind of play space a little bit better. But both those guys are good against the run. So keep an eye out for those guys against Damien Harrison the Alabama run game out in space with these receivers and tight ends. He looked a little Egbo AJ Brown DeMarcus. You know, that's one of the best receiving course. In college football going up against that secondary. Mississippi State, you know, Jamal Peterson a big corner. He's a senior he's draft eligible guy who some people feel that could be a press guy. Some people feel could be a safety and the Jonathan Abram is one of my favorite safeties in the country. I mean, the guy has got a really explosive mover. He's physical. He's a dog out there in terms of playing against the run and also playing in space. He's a guy. I would absolutely keep your eye on in this Thursday night game. And then Louisville taken on Kentucky and other one. Look Louisville's obviously doubt between trio's out. But they do have some talent there. Jalen smith. Probably the best senior on the roster in terms of NFL potential big bodied receiver playing out in space against this Kentucky secondary. Where you've got Derek Beatty. You've got Lonnie Johnson. Mike Edwards in the slots or wherever Jalen Smith lines up. He's going to face a next level defensive back. So big test there for Jalen Smith and then down in the trenches. I know how much you love these guys up front Thursday night. You've got ole miss left tackle, Greg little some people feel is a I. Round pick in this draft. Technumn Montessori wet another guy. Some people feel is a first round pick. So you got a great matchup their sweat does lineup on both defensive defensive end spots. So sometimes we'll get matched up against little. Sometimes he won't when those to do go at it. That'll be a really fun match up to watch South Carolina. Clemson, South Carolina line. You know, having watched them closely. It's a pretty impressive group for especially for a college offensive line. Dennis daily is a guy at the left tackle spot. Second year star big bodied kid when he gets his hands on you. I think he could be really he can be really tough to get by question. Whether or not his feet are quite good enough to last at left tackle, the NFL. But we'll see I do what I've seen from him. Zach Bailey just a tough physical guard. He does have some tackle experiences while I do like him better on the inside going up against this Clemson defensive line, Christian Wilkins, and Dexter Larence and Cleland feral in Austin, Bryan, Albert Huggins and all those guys up front for Clemson. And it's going to be a really good match up there something to keep an eye on as well. And then I'll have state Michigan. Chase winner. We'll see if he's able to go in this game. He's been out of the lineup. So far this week. We'll see if he's able to go for Sean Gary did make his return this past week or I think he actually came back online a couple of weeks ago but had a few big plays in this Maryland game. So he certainly will be in their Ohio state's got a right tackle Isaiah prince that some scouts are really really high on. I think he had gotten some top fifty type of grades over. The course of the summer. I'm not quite sure I see him there. But he is a big bodied kid. He's got some length to him has been three or start a four your started there for the buckeyes. So keep an eye on that matchup Isaiah prince against Michigan deans in that Florida. Florida state game Martinez Ivy another big bodied left tackle guy. Who's got the ability to play inside at guard as well. But just great size. Rare linked for the position going up against Florida state Brian burns, who is one of the more explosive pass rushers when the more flexible pass rushers in the country. So another interesting match up to watch their in that rivalry. Game. Yup. Looking forward to that one for sure it's interesting to me that I've Ian Mitch Hiatt Clemson were the top two ranked offense of tackles in the in high school when they played in the army bowl, and they both are going to end up playing for years. They both have now won red-shirted. But now the one left score the either which usually when the guys, you know, the top two tackles one of them ends up leaving squirrelly so set something that's interesting to note, you can always catch friend all of his stuff at f- defeat three on Twitter. That's the key or Google friend all kinds of stuff for you over at Philadelphia Eagles that come. Of course, tomorrow is a huge day at RT media with even money podcast with our beds fantasy feasts podcasts. I got a big win last night. Thanks to Brandin cooks. Put me over the edge on my fantasy league. Evan civil always hooks me up from road a world on the Fancy Feast pod. Cast. 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College Football Week 12 Recap

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College Football Week 12 Recap

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I am ready to plow through a lot of what's in front of us joyfully easily and without remorse. Didn't we refer to him on Twitter as dude Farland designed gonna go with now? We can we can do better than simply adding dude to place name unless it's like unless it flows within the actual name like dude law and a semester abroad that kind of thing. I I was a fan of watching a backup running back. Freshman news five foot eight just completely tear through a defense full of five stars shirt. Welcome back to the show, boys and girls. Hope you enjoyed your save the date Saturday, Dan, and I did a little bit of an Instagram live thing. Yes. Trying that out at halftime of the Notre Dame Syracuse game. Otherwise, you know, I think we got what we expected from Saturday. It wasn't entirely uneventful. They're certainly talking points that we're going to dive into here momentarily, but not a lot in the way of huge earth shattering college. Football news, that's going to be consequential to the state of the playoff moving forward. Just really wasn't that kind of weekend. Not that we ever expected it, Dan, but any any broad takeaways from what you saw on week twelve why a big question for you. And that was guess what moments? During martial UTSA right here. Like were a turning point for doc Holliday, Isaiah greens, huge performance was that like, you know, walked me through your thought process during that game. I sat down I sat down and I thinking emoji really through. Yeah. You're still working through your thoughts about the state of college football. Also, don't forget about the big army victory over gore. Colgate. I'm not ready to talk raiders. Yeah. Twenty eight to fourteen was the final they were showing. It was it was a very eventful game. So eventful that they were showing commercials for catheters on CBS sports network dirt. That's because they know the audience just can't get up right while watching a game of that magnitude that they are just doing their service for an audience that they know they know and understand that's very quick spin from you. I appreciate that. We also had what else some notable moments here and there Harvard had a touchdown call back because they're running back. At Fenway at LA. They're running back was running into the end zone and gave a defender the finger because come on Thai. It's you when rivalry games happen. You gotta throw the records out and you got to throw decorum out. Everybody knows this. That's right. The other thing that I would just say generally speaking before we launch into your reverse is there were handful of games where you saw the score at halftime. And you're thinking, okay, how how seriously do I wanna take this? Like, I wasn't all that concerned. When I saw Bama tied ten ten with the citadel or Clemson only being up eight on Duke at halftime, Indiana up by two over Michigan got my attention. He does that there's a little bit of history there in Indiana has played Michigan very tight in recent memory. And we know the hoosiers get you going a couple of games like that. Where you're looking at the score you're thinking, I k-. Okay. What are we what are we working with here? You were like a week twelve mechanic. You were looking at your you get under the car of. Week twelve you know, like all right. What are we what are we dealing with here? We've got a valve. We gotta pump. Dwight should I be paying attention to this this this piston neither were okay? On that note. Let's get to your week twelve reverse who Marilyn Maryland, Maryland. Maryland. Puzder on the frigate Nebraska fairy, Sean from Seattle fight signed, Dan. This is Andrew from California. This is Colin and Columbus, Ohio it Saturday morning, and I'm anxiously awaiting of the greatest interconference event in college sports, the SEC FCS challenge. The citadel is doing something that the rest of the SEC can't do and that is hang with Alabama for forty minutes and breaking the hearts of every person in America, Alabama. Finally, remember how to play football old tied. I guess and a letdown look head sandwich is Baxter meeting in college park today. My goodness. Is this Maryland's facto national championship is this the urban Meyer equivalent of Michael Jordan's flu game. Well, maryland. Add letdown look head sandwiches made up and ready to go. And then they just can't have through the way they're just gonna bresca. Michigan state football game was a ten November at its finest. I don't know what is driving on my way, home from west Lafayette and the cones. Oh, holy smokes. What a game update. Jonathan taylor. Still dude just finished watching New York's one true football team. The Notre Dame fighting Irish defend its home turf at Yankee Stadium by dismantling Syracuse what for. For what? For the three points at the extra tickets the entity being I was hanging in there for that. Facture actually read all about Brian Kelly's defeat another. Second string quarterback on congratulate. My ACC coastal championship anchor Taylor pit baby. Charlotte hail to hit a coastal champs. Let's go and my beloved Utah. You are the Pac twelve south champions Levi stadium. Goes u Utah finally won the south. Thank you. Your Klay health new guy. Everyone y'all does take Iowa to win straight out. All I gotta say is. Okay. Cool folk of I ever have another son. I'm going to have to name him Lil will Jordan Humphry closing thirteen hours of watching ball here. Pay. Oklahoma state is what we love about college football. Right. I just watching college game day at life university of central Florida knights in Orlando, Florida. How many hours is am? I supposed to wait before I go see a doctor four. I can't remember after a valiant effort. No one can say that. There are a hundred and twenty nine better FBI GM's in the class of the CS caters best game of the year. Kennesaw state Jacksonville say in SunTrust park in Atlanta. Five over time. Hi, my name's Charlie. I'm in Arkansas fan. So I have nothing to live for but my wife is an Alabama fan. And now that I'm out of her ear shot. I just want to say that it is objectively hilarious that they were tying to ask time with Senate L roll tide. All righty. There you go. We twelve in the books. Don't forget the river blind will be open again next weekend. Four eight verbal one that is four zero eight eight three seven two two five. One are Taylor. Does a marvelous job cutting all of those up putting them together into one three and a half to four minutes super cut that we love to call the reverse. Yes. Outstanding job as always by Taylor. Who buddy it was probably not your favorite and of game scenario. Sorry about that. Maryland superfan Taylor and just a terrific producer, though. Absolutely. So we'll get into that Ohio State Maryland game here in a few minutes. But I do want to start with Oklahoma state forty five. Yes. West virginia. Forty one as expected. Points a yards West Virginia actually led by seventeen at half and by ten in the fourth quarter, but Oklahoma state despite four turnovers they rally they pull off the upset in an electric Boone Pickens stadium that had twenty one thousand two hundred and thirty six empty seats, Dan. Wow. Once again, West Virginia first half just making its way through West Virginia. Secondhand that's right. Just dominating. Now. I think the credit in this game has to go to Oklahoma state, especially Taylor. Cornelius four bouncing back from some early struggles has a couple of picks but gets done both through the air on the ground. A nice emergence from Dylan's donor who got it done. Even though talent Wallace was great in the red zone. It was Dylan stone or through the air who made a big difference. No Justice hill. I don't believe JD. King was available in this game either. So even through the injuries, they were very good on the ground. Round and Oklahoma state's defense despite giving up when he was thirty one in the first half tightened up impressively in the second half, they shut out West Virginia and really do. Limit them in the second half, especially on the ground. So fourth straight for the pokes. That is correct. And you mentioned corn dog Taylor out nearly as he did have to early interceptions. But as you mentioned bounced back, quite admirably. He was big when he had to be in the fourth quarter, especially on the ground. I want to put an exclamation Mark on that point. He finished with thirteen carries for one hundred six yards and that late touchdown in the fourth quarter, which pulled Oklahoma state within three points. West Virginia had no answer for him on the ground. He's a load. He's six six. He's a big, dude. Yeah. Running down the field. So he's tough to bring down. But it was just like the parting of the Red Sea with him running up, the gut. Yep. And now the end of west. Genius pretty far off probably playoff hopes anyway, but certainly still in the running for the big twelve which is not insignificant. They have Oklahoma next week. So they play Oklahoma next if they win against Oklahoma. Let's be honest. They affectively eliminate the conference from playoff contention at which point they would play. I believe Texas. If Texas beats Kansas, which I mean, listen. This voice is going up. Kansas. Yeah. They scored a bunch of wants in the fourth quarter against Oklahoma. But yes, it appears that Texas even with we'll see what happens semi lingers shoulder injury that he suffered yesterday and Sal sounded like he could come back. We'll get to that. But if Kansas loses Texas that puts Texas in the the big twelve championship game against I think, the winner of West Virginia Oklahoma at sounds, right? Okay. Notre Dame thirty six Syracuse three Notre Dame. Look good, Dan. I disagree. I think they looked really okay. They kicked a field goal. Syracuse kicked a field goal with ten seconds left which spoiled the shutout but cues could not get anything going on offense didn't help that. Eric Dungy got injured. Early on in the game. Tommy devito had come on in relief to be honest shirt. Made a whole lot of difference now 'cause Notre Dame played like they had something to prove. And that's actually the takeaway for me. I have seen Notre Dame sleepwalk in spots like this before over the years yesterday. They had to win they had to look impressive in victory to eliminate any doubt. They came out. They were confident they were dominant. My only real complaint was they were a little shaky in the red zone. It probably could have won by fifty. If they weren't settling for field goals and Ian book had a dumb interception down the red zone where he's fallen back. He's through it up. He's trying to make a play outside of those two, I guess broad points. I have nothing to complain about. Here. Notre Dame looked really good in a neutral cider in Yankee Stadium yet appears in book did not have any struggles. Rib wise. There was no he looked physically like, Ian book. I was I was half watching. This game half watching a couple of other games, West Virginia. Oklahoma state started around the halftime of this one. I think but. Crazy impressive. It is strange. Not to be labor any points about Syracuse. It is strange that you you look at a win over Syracuse and say, this is impressive. What they did who they did it against. But at the same time, you know, I'm a Syracuse appreciator and skeptic that if you have to look at Syracuse as one of the two best wins of the season for Notre Dame. It just means it's a very strange scheduled for Notre Dame's opponents this year. So Notre Dame did what an excellent team should do against Syracuse team that was probably a little over inflated agree. And they I I mean, what's the safeties name who was all over the place. Gillman gillman. That's an impressive player up the middle. Notre Dame is I mean short of maybe Clemson as stout as anybody. Notre Dame's secondary has been very good this year, especially the back side of that secondary. It's been a long time since you could feel as comfortable as I do about the Notre Dame defense at the safety position. Yeah. They're very good in the back. That's been a fly in the alignment for them for as long as I can remember you gotta go back to the Taiwan Willingham era before I felt this good about that set. What was the boxers name? The boxer was a pretty good safety exhibit Caskey was a good safety. But that was the Ty Willingham era that that far back tail. Yeah, we're getting old. Okay. Anyway, Notre Dame has to win next week at USC if they win they go undefeated, they're going to qualify for the play-off probably as the number three seed don't want to count chickens before they hatch. But that's the way it is shaping up here in which case, it would I guess look like a match up with Clemson in the play but v I should mention zip Caskey played during the Charlie weis. Oh, though, maybe he was recruited by. By it. He was drafted in eight. So he spans era. Saw I listen. I remember I remember zip Caskey. That's I don't remember much. But I think he is from my I think he's from Jodi with an is hometown. I think that's why. All right can wins thirty six to three they're eleven or no queues, by the way goes on the road to Boston College for a shot at nine wins, which shouldn't be overlooked. That would be a pretty big deal for this program. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I don't know the status of Dungy. But yeah. Syracuse winning nine games is like keep Dino babies there forever. That's right. Do whatever you have to do. I don't think he will be but free him cryogenically in Syracuse. Yeah. Incredible job by I mean, babies, but the staff and the team, and you know, the the improvements since he's gotten there has been Britain pretty impressive to watch. All Hieaux state fifty two there'll fifty one Dan in overtime. Okay. You warned me I talked about it all last show the defacto national championship. I tried to name the day after your favorite concepts. You tried. I did. My heart wasn't open to it. But you tried and you were right. This game was bonkers Maryland led the whole game. It wasn't until high AllState scored a touchdown. I possession of overtime that. They actually were up on the Terrapins Maryland comes up next. They score right away. They decide to go for to to go for the win. They had somebody open. Buddy was open. They couldn't convert. That's how high state ends up winning this one snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. Again, fifty two to fifty one your final score few takeaways from this game. We mentioned Anthony McFarland. The starting running back now for Maryland with Thai Johnson out incredible. Yeah. Especially for freshmen, but that first step the confidence. He runs with. He is lightning quick. And he has confidence just a total pleasure to watch. He has two hundred plus yards rushing in the first half against an Ohio State defense that really has struggled with giving up big plays open-field tackling all season long. I know they will have state fans have been pretty disappointed with linebacker play. Not to mention offensive line play on the other side. But really good game for JK Dobbins overshadowed by the fact that maybe Dwayne Haskins through the air is just he's pretty incredible and made some plays with his feet as well in short yardage situations. It was it was a bummer to watch from. Maryland perspective, you know, in big moments. Tiro pilgrim did not necessarily come through late in that game. Now, Maryland did put him in a pretty good position to win the game. But he's he is their backup quarterback with Cassim hill outs. The other big takeaway for me really rough watching urban Meyer on the sideline Yemen. Taking these bearing his hands his head in his hands. Just looking and listen to the health concerns are well documented this point he had a assist removed from his brain and has had subsequent procedures to deal with it. He was reacting. Like, I I don't I don't even know like he was reacting to such a crazy degree like he was a general in a movie learning that Illinois was now offline because of the aliens. Yeah. And South Dakota offline like, no, it's a football game, dude. And obviously, I think there's there's more yet owing on his health. So that was I was. Watch. Yeah. Yeah. And Maryland's if they're able to regroup is in a position I believe to make a bowl game. They need also considered. Yeah. The young to beat Penn State next week beatable, very beatable. We'll get enough of the Rutgers game here. Penn State did not look great Maryland is one win away. I I wanna put another exclamation Mark on something here that you said sure we talked about Anthony McFarland at the top of the show. We talked about Anthony dude Farland here. Just in recapping this game specific. Yeah. Twenty-one carries two hundred ninety eight yards in two touchdowns. Yeah. You got to play that sound wherever and two hundred ninety eight yards in one of the biggest games of your season. I think would qualify. The other thing that I do want to mention here. I'll have they won the game. But the they gotta look better than this defending the run Michigan would happily run for about four hundred yards next week. They would and they might then struggle in the red zone after gaining guarded. If their game against Indiana to we just want to go at that, smooth ass transit has just baby's bottom. Let's just do it. We're pros here. Thirty one to twenty was your final. I mentioned at the top of the show when I saw that Indiana was up seventeen fifteen in half, I'm thinking, okay. Not again, not again because I think two of the last three matchups between Indiana and Michigan have actually ended up going to overtime where is this going to be another one? Well, it didn't go to OT, but it was a little bit closer. And certainly Michigan fans would like it was a one score game in the fourth quarter. Eventually Michigan pulls away a little bit. But the story for me actually was that red zone defense by Indiana. Or if you wanna call it red zone inefficiency by the Michigan offense depends on your perspective. But Michigan had eight drives that went into the red zone. And they scored just one touchdown. They had to settle for. For six field goals from Jake moody who got the start over Quinn. Nordenham kicker because Quinn Nordine apparently wasn't feeling well or was sick. Nice debut for Mr. moody setting a school record with six field goals, Dan. Yeah. I mean good for Jake moody coming in. I mean backup college kickers are with. That's a scary phrase right there. The fact that they essentially needed so much from him six field though, that's eighteen of their thirty one points. If my math is correct. That is correct beat Indiana a team that has been fine. The thing that has been feisty. They've got your boy Stevie Scott large, man, I had had an enormous first half for the hoosiers. And the big thing with Michigan. Now is I mean just big picture going into Iowa State is at the time, we're recording this fully don't know chase when of inches status. Right. There were early reports of a collarbone injury. That are not at all confirmed at the time recording this. I know Jim Harbaugh mentioned some some x-rays and procedures came back negative. So hopefully, good news for that. Michigan defense that at times really struggled both with and without winna vich David long was picked on a little bit. Which is a rare thing to say in that Michigan defense. So that is given Michigan's hopes right now to to beat Ohio State to get a if they are able to do that get passed northwestern in the big ten championship game in. A potential playoff scenario. Somebody like win avenged on that line is extraordinarily crucial. Do we just want to keep it going? Do. We just want to keep those smooth transitions rolling dimension. Northwestern. Let's go to north western twenty four Minnesota fourteen. The cats the cardiac cats in. Have now won eleven straight. You got a good night's sleep. Didn't you tie hours dog full eight hours? I'm working on a full charge over. I love it. I love it eleven straight against opponents in the big ten west. Minnesota was very mistake prone in this game. Northwestern capitalized. It's what they do. I also thought northwestern look pretty good in the front seven which they'll need to keep that going regardless of who their opponent is in the big ten championship game. Whether it's state or Michigan. They're gonna need that to sustain them your final here again was twenty four to fourteen. Yeah. And if there was I guess anything to be taken away from Minnesota is that they have shown some fight. The defense started out looking pretty good. You know, it'd be Fresno state looks like a disaster for good chunk of the season. But improved a little bit these past couple of weeks and I do like Minnesota skill position right now. But the story is northwestern just playing sound football bowser has been a nice addition that backfield since he came in and started getting the lion's share of carries Clayton. Thorson not spectacular. But, you know, always decent. And that's listen. How many teams raise your hand? If you would like an always decent quarterback many would sell good for north western as they move into the the big ten championship game. And they played Michigan tight the first time. They played Michigan. Yes, they did and north west and Notre Dame tight and Notre Dame tight. This is a good football team. It doesn't always show up in the box score the way it does for some others. But this is a team that plays really solid team football ultimate grower. We'll see let's go to Penn State twenty Rutgers seventy. Okay. Let's let's just do this real a place it. Well, look, you could look at it from one of two perspectives, and it will move on. If your glass half full, you could say that trace McSorley became the winningest quarterback in Penn State history. Moved ahead of Todd Blackledge, Tony Sacca. He also is now one of three big ten football players to have gone over one hundred total touchdowns at puts him in rarefied air with drew Brees who did it almost exclusively through the air J T Barrett who had a little bit of both at Ohio State. So he's in he's in exclusive company. They're the defense for Penn State was really sound in this game not hard to be sound. It's rutgers. But again trying to look at this glass half full if you are pessimistic you could say that Penn State's offense real bad is it will. Yeah. It looked real bad. There seems to be obvious regression now over the. Last month and a half. How much of that is due to trace McSorley being a bit on the shelf remains to be seen. But they're really limp into the finish here and that game against Maryland next week is anything, but gimme I think we are going to get reports after the season ends like oh trace McSorley played without a spleen collarbone. He played without a kneecap and a half since September twenty seventh after the season ends, which is what it appears to be Penn State appears to be an above average and nothing more big ten power right now. And that's okay. Now that you're down here if that's your down your tie, not bad Nebraska, nine Michigan state, six in in the snow in the snow. This is one of them games is going to leave scar tissue. If you're Michigan state fan. The good news. Is you can spin it as how? Nebraska looked really good on defense. Maybe if you want to really try and play the spin game. Michigan state is a ton of injuries. They had a bunch of dropped balls. There was a snow to contend with not a good offensive showing either way here, Dan. But at a bare minimum at a bare minimum at least we had rocky Lombardi against Adrian Martinez. Drew? We had rocky. We had Adrian Nebraska did it big win for them at home. Yeah. Michigan state's offense is bad. It is full on bad. And I got to imagine at a certain point. We're going to have to see something adjusted in the offseason, whether it's coaching whether it's scheme because they're failing their own defense, perhaps more than any other team in the country. And that's a tough thing to say because there are a lot of those situations around college football good for Nebraska going into the offseason. I'm no they have another game next week a believe it's the Iowa game. But going into the offseason having been there last home game with a win over a really good defense is not insignificant. Also, something that I saw pointed out was kind of cool in a very sad situation. The the Mike Sadler. Sam Foltz a few years ago that all the points scored in this game where special teams and this was the first matchup between Michigan state Nebraska after that tragedy. So something cool in honoring kind of way. Through a pretty bleak Blake situation. So hey, good for Nebraska, and they move. It can go five and seven with maybe surprise when next week over Iowa. And that's from where they started out tie, huge success, huge success Iowa, by the way, docked off Illinois, sixty three to nil Gipp and then to round out the big ten Wisconsin forty seven Perdue. Forty four triple overtime Jonathan Taylor. Tailback get this thirty three carries three hundred twenty one yards and three touchdowns including the eventual game winner in triple overtime. He was ridiculous. He was I watched a good chunk of his game this morning. It's it's incredible below that he's had to shoulder and his health has been good enough. His production has been far more than good enough. And certainly a disappointing year for Wisconsin giving the expectations. But I I can't imagine anybody has anything less than floored by Jonathan Taylor tailback and similarly David Blau an amazing game in a losing effort. The play it again. What the hell? Yeah. He goes for almost four hundred with four touchdowns is is the produce offense. Essentially, don't get anything really going on the ground finds Rondell more a bunch, but yeah, fun. Listen this game was either going to be ten seven or fifty to fifty. And I'm just glad we got the more entertaining option. Let's move over to the big twelve the nightcap on Longhorn network if you were able to tune into a pirate signal to catch this game on your chrome cast or ipad. It was Texas twenty four Iowa State ten Dan Texas, playing defense here holding Isla state to just two hundred ten yards Brock Purdy. Couldn't get going. Didn't have enough help around him. But no, you know, David Montgomery suspended for a half. Because he threw that punch last week Iowa State just could not get the spark when they needed it on offense, the other point of note here, and this is going to be significant now as we look. Ahead for Texas. Maybe not next week against Kansas. But if they do find themselves as it seems they will in that big twelve championship game. Sam etlinger took another shop before halftime. He was out is the same shoulder. He hurt against Baylor. Apparently didn't break anything the xrays came back negative. But they're going to give him the MRI. Now, they're going to check on the AC joint again going back through the cycle here to see how much damage there is. And how long he'll be out if at all, but definitely something to keep your eye focused on because we have not heard the last Texas now in two thousand eighteen my it is he could be another trace McSorley, we find out about how. He was that's one of my fa-. We can't really do a fantasy things for an offseason thing. Right. But a great fantasy thing is finding out the truth about an injury in late January, right and semi Ellen gourmet have had a scalpel left in his shoulder. Or at some point. Also should be noted Texas ran the ball ditches trae Wattana comet occurrence. Yeah. Both Watson and Ingram. Did a good job. And I'm trying to figure out a way to phrase this. Because we have our dudes that we give out every week. And we talk about you know, Anthony McFarland. Bubba little Jordan Humphry hell, Jay Humphry in terms of the physicality of playing the receiver position in terms of catching the ball going up and battling for a ball. And then once you have the ball fighting through arm tackles, shedding guys there may not be a singular singularly better physical receiver than they'll Jordan Humphrey in the country. Maybe more talented route running maybe more, maybe faster, maybe better hands. Whatever little Jordan, Humphry physically. I think Mike. Be on a level by himself. He is just he's crazy. Impressive against a pretty good Iowa State defense. He he stood out. Which is I'm just I'm floored by some of what he can do. You know, who he reminds me of hope do you? Remember that game? Twisted. Metal for the old PS one shar. Of course, do you? Remember, the big old candy van sweet tooth too. That's Jordan Humphry. He. Yeah. There is something that through chaos. He somehow is the one generating even more than very around him. I love it. Twenty four to ten your final. Texas winds at night at home big one over I and shame Machel pretty good relief. That's right now. Okay. Oklahoma fifty five I'm laughing as I say this place. Oklahoma fifty five. Kansas forty points, polka Williams two hundred fifty two yards on just fifteen carries on the ground. He also threw a touchdown pass. Dan. Did you see that forty yard touchdown run? He had. I did. He's a he has. He has. Turbo. That's turbo Williams right there. He gets after it. So okay. Cuyler Murray gets his usual five touchdowns, but forty points, surrendered to Kansas is an awful lot. That's a bit of an issue now moving forward not just against West Virginia next week, which will surely be a shootout. But certainly as they move forward maybe into a playoff scenario into a bowl scenario. This defense is not really imprint improved initially after making the change at defensive coordinator. But it's still very much a liability for the Sooners. Oh, yeah. They I can't imagine. Against either Clemson, Alabama of Oklahoma ends up in the playoff. I can't imagine that defense being good enough to win lie. It's even seems lesser than where they were last year when George was able to to win that game in overtime. It's it's problematic. I it's not the worst thing. It's not like Kansas came out and scored thirty in the first half because that shows, you know, an unwillingness to to to buy in I suppose, and there is something that is a little bit troubling about being unprepared for game. So at least they did a pretty good job for the first three quarters again, though, this is Kansas map and to allow that sort of fight back in and to to have to to play Keiler Murray. Four full-quarter's Oklahoma is really good, but they are really flawed. And they it's nice to see them urgence of Kennedy Brooks on the ground sermon, you know, has done it the past couple of weeks, and I guess there are two Kennedy's in the big twelve emerging at running back and try. Play next week. I the best I could do is fed Kennedy's not bad, not bad. They're getting they're getting fed. But yeah, Oklahoma's really good. And by the way, it does appear as if less miles will be the new head football coach at TASS. I did like that. Jeff long came out the athletic director for Kansas and said, listen, you're not gonna see leaks or handling this in a very professional way. Going after our guys I think you're going to be really impressed with the process of what we're doing you see him in private planes, and all of that like high level strategizing gives you less mile. Yeah. I mean, it's tracking package via UPS. You can just go online and get up to the minute updates on. Yeah. Where this whole negotiation stands. No seems to be the name. So we'll have to keep our eye on how you feel about that. I like it do you? Yeah. I mean, this is a Kansas program that's been down and out for quite some time. I wish it were someone younger than less miles. But I think if your hands is fan, you don't have to worry about less having a good year and then wanting to go elsewhere like he's probably gonna stay at Kansas. If it ends up working out longer term and at a minimum if he can get things going in a good direction. He is more of a transitional coach, hopefully to someone who would be there longer term younger, you know, that sort of thing he cut a deal, by the way to let LSU keep five million dollars of what they owed him, which that's a nice guy. I don't know if I'm willing to cut that sorta deal, but you know, nice, dude. And you know, what maybe it's the situation of walk before you run, and maybe less miles and not the long term answer. But that program needs a lot of infrastructure help just recruiting and hiring. And just general day to day stuff that has been lacking for quite some time, and you know, maybe less miles is that dude as a as a bridge sorta guy Kansas state Twenty-one, Texas Tech six, Dan. Okay. Yeah. This is about a hundred percent on brand for K state to win. This kind of key. Just big someone's going to blow the doors off them. They come through a big defensive effort here. They hold Texas Tech to one hundred eighty one total yards the nightmares continue for tech in Manhattan, Kansas. They have not won there since two thousand eight just in terms of this season. They've now lost four straight there. Endanger of missing a bowl game the need to beat Baylor next week to get the six wins, which they can do. But Baylor's certainly not a cream puff. Meanwhile, K state also in a similar position of needing one more w to get to bowl season. K state needs a victory over Iowa State. Got an easy one top names right in Ames, Anita victory over Iowa State to get the six wins. Yeah. Quietly. Pretty nice season for Alex Barnes whose over thousands yards. And yeah, maybe just a a letdown situation after kind of. Starring back against Texas. But not pulling that out and Kansas state. Yes. With some of their depths. And this is true. A couple of teams we've talked about whether it's Minnesota Nebraska from the depths of September October two at least making a bowl game. Even if it is, you know, if they decide to go in a new direction from Bill Snyder at long last, just revitalize reenergize, whatever good for good for the cats and finally in the big twelve TCU sixteen Baylor nine talk about a game that's gonna leave scar tissue. Michael Collins hurt Michael Collins hurt, Grayson mole Stein. Yeah. I think it's pretty close fifth year senior came in for Collins after he went down the big story for TCU has been just that they've had thirty six players miss significant time this season due to injury, as you know, there were ready questions about TCU headed into this season. Given some of the turnover to have that many injuries. This really just a non starter tough to build when you're constantly rebuilding from week to week. Yeah, they get Oklahoma state next week for their own bid at bowl eligibility. Maybe it's a letdown spot for the pokes after the West Virginia win who knows the good news for TCU is Jalen regular exists and scoring that was just a ridiculous. I think it was on a screen some sort of tunnel screen type play broke a bunch of tackles and just turned on the jets. So there is a silver lining and that silver lining rhymes with Megan maker good for good for. TCU needing basically him to exist in with this came over in the ACC, Clemson thirty five Duke six. Fourteen to six at half as I mentioned earlier clubs had looked extremely out of sync in the first half. So at that point. We're all thinking does Clemson have a Duke problem, right? It was just there for us. Then Clemson comes out they rip off twenty one unanswered. They win comfortably Clemson plays South Carolina next week. If you had a chance to listen to the interview I conducted with Larry Williams from tiger illustrated on the only moments pod back on really. Yeah. He predicted that this game will quote, get ugly and said that the Gamecocks fans he knows are not very optimistic about this matchup next week this palmetto bowl as they call it. So Clemson now building to their ACC championship match-up with the Pitt Panthers, which we'll talk about next here. But any bigger takeaways from from this Duke gained Dan, not particularly may thinks the has been crocked that was that was all that. I mean, it was it was a really nice performance from Clemson who. Yes, did struggle in the first half, keeping drives going travec. Ten is. Excellent. Trevor Lawrence has been protected pretty well. Which is. Has allowed him to grow. And the only other thing tie the spread in this game. I think closed at twenty eight and a half, and what is thirty five minus six now. It'd be twenty nine raw. Okay. Locally front door cover out there. Yeah. Oh, you just scared. So many dogs tack. That's what I do pay thirty four wake thirteen. Listen lays, Dan when your patent or doozy. When you're in command of this pit offense. You have a luxury few others. Have you can either demoralize your opponent by gashing them on the ground with Quadri, Alison more you can pick them apart with Kenny pinpoint picket. In this one Dan Kenny pick it threw for three sixteen and three touchdowns pit shakes off the rocky start. They outscore wake thirty one two three in the second half in so doing wake joins an exclusive club. Actually, they're the founding member of the Kenny Pickett threw for three hundred yards against us club. This is true. I would also point out that Pitt who had been abysmal defensively for a really strong chunk of the season has been aided by actually decent enough defensive play outside of the shootout against I wanna say it was Duke two or three weeks ago pit is held teams to I think I saw fifteen or sixteen points and four of their last five including Notre Dame. So that's not something to sort of sneer at Pitt for making improvements across the board. And maybe I'm wrong about this just because I love the odds of this ever happening. I believe it's Qadri Alison Qadri were confusing. It with former Pitt receiver Quadri Henderson. Okay. Which what are the odds? But yes, all of a sudden and hall even in a week where they don't really do a ton. They they have become gravitational players that defense has have to pay attention to. And that pit backfield. Good for them. Florida state twenty two Boston College twenty one nice to see Anthony Brown back out there for Boston College after he got the streudel. Yeah. We could go by Clemson and had to leave. But look nice to see Florida state get off the Schneide here. They can still qualify for a bowl if they beat Florida. I don't know if that's likely, but a big time la- Hassi, I believe. Yeah. In Tallahassee him either way. A big time throw from the Andre Francois. Final two minutes of the game. A seventy four yard touchdown which gives the Knowles the lead and the win they needed something. Like this. They needed something. Like this even if they don't qualify for the bowl they needed something positive. Like this that they can use that they can build on moving forward because it has been a rough go for them this season. Yeah. Camakers with the nice game. He had the big run. I thought Florida state's defense really was the story, especially upfront can stay Jay Dillon. Brian burns had a nice game. And even though Francois did make a couple of mistakes. Good to see him. Spreading the ball out getting newer guys involved. I think it was it was Terry. I want to say it was a taste Ontario, tomorrow and tear, Maureen Tehran. Yes. Who who came to play? So. Yeah. Florida state early on in the season with how they had looked especially along that offensive line though, are covered there were like three nine four eight type conversations. So I guess relative to perception in September. This has been at least it a year that has had its moments. You know, I'm I'm kind of on the fence for how I should feel about this. Because I remember when we did our Florida state preview. I did my best said, seven and five acres. Seven and five. Yeah. And got a couple tweets like, you know, that that might be a little bit aggressive and I hedged because I'm a weenie and lo and behold here, we are it's been it's been a rough go, I think it's been worse than people expected. The line hasn't come together. But hope to say, the least the say the least. Yeah. Florida's state getting a win here, though, not rooting against the Knowles just saying it it ended up being a little bit worse than we expected here. Hopefully, they can build on this and keep going onward and upward. I will say I mean this has nothing to do with their season. Specifically, they I think they really flubbed their uniform redo a few years ago because growing up a Florida state fan from afar is loving worked on Peter work and anybody named Warrick really such a great look that is now just I just I'm not a fan. I it feels like a very nineties baseball redo and Florida state can do better. I just it's not very. I I don't like it at all. I don't like the black and maroon thing not like the new I don't like the new fawns. I just. Yeah. Count me out as a fan of these looks. All right. Little ninety nine percent visible going on today. Yeah. NC state fifty to lawville ten. Here's the takeaway from this game. The takeaway is that Dan dockage aradio guy in Indianapolis works for ESPN former basketball coach he says that Jeff Brom is going to be announced as the next coach at Louisville on Monday, November twenty sixth. Okay. That would be soon that will be soon. So that's the Monday after thanksgiving. All right. I mean. Not my I go to college football source notes. So I will wait and see to to see what happens and just because these reporting it doesn't mean it's not true. It's as well. I mean, it's on the internet. So I hope somebody out there funded a kid's college education body, yachts traveled around the world, and maybe earned one of those like crazy platinum American Airlines free first class travel for life car, whatever betting against Louisville this year. I hope somebody named that yacht. Like, the the whisking Patry. No. You know, there's something. I really hope somebody had the foresight to just say I'm pushing everything against Lowell if you let it ride from week to week. Yeah. Yeah. Unbelievable. NC state your ultimate eight and four nine and three program. Georgia Tech thirty Virginia twenty seven in overtime. This one's going to sting for UVA. They give up a safety that you have a special teams touchdown. The also fumble. Punt return, a really poor effort from the who's on special teams, Bronco mendenhall cited as much in his post-game presser. Meanwhile, Georgia Tech very quietly seven and four they've got Georgia next week which isn't a favorable matchup. But nonetheless, it did feel earlier this year like the season might come off the rails. It very much hasn't. They're gonna go to a bowl game. And they've quietly been pretty good. I think they've won six of seven after starting one in three they didn't win a power five game until they were into Tober. I wanna say it was the game. I want to say it was Louisville. Maybe I forget who was it's just easy assumption. If you're going to say who who like really broke their streak of playing poorly in. Do they play it might probably liberal? Yeah. Good for tech. It's going to be a tough match-up for Georgia. I I'm not terribly worried for the whole dogs but nonetheless, good turnaround for for the rambling wreck and the final two games in ACC play. We head Miami thirty eight to fourteen over Virginia Tech. Offense tie, second half off it'll gloss over Mukasey Perry. Having a good game the defense coming to play do not go. So I'm in Virginia, Texas, I cut by tax very bad Miami. Like this was a whoever lost this game. Which is now Virginia Tech, that's a dark place. Sorry, but Siamese bowl eligible Miami's bowl eligible. There's a little less heat on Mark richt to. I don't think the heat is fully real. But certainly concern Israel and a nice meaningful for him not necessarily meaningful for the season statement from the from the canes and finally North Carolina wins forty nine to twenty six over western Carolina. Let's go over the Pac twelve Dan. Okay. Here's here's where we're at. The apple Cup is going to decide the Pac twelve north love it. And the winner of that game will square off against Utah utes Utah knocked off Colorado thirty seven we had snow for this game. Yeah. It took Utah until the second half to really get moving. Here's where we're at with the utes. All right. You know that they are used to starting a quart. Her back that is a backup at this point. Yeah. Seems more a feature than a bug. Yeah. For Kyle Wittingham over Utah's backup is secret starter. Yeah. Secret starter. Jason Shelly is the backup. He isn't committing turnovers. He's not blowing you away statistically. But he's not committing turnovers. At least not yet. He's got the defense there as a fallback, which is usually very consistent for the Utah utes. And I think the combination of those two factors is what gave Utah another victory. Twenty three points, the Victor your funnel. Here was thirty to seven Colorado just could not get anything going offense, and Utah wins the Pac twelve south Utah, a pack twelve south for the very first time since joining the conference, and I know you had reserved compliments for Jason Shelly. But whenever I see a quarterback make deepish plays in the snow rent. I admire that because we do not see that all that often. There's a reason why we make in a monsoon. Jokes because it's not dissimilar from in a blizzard. And I don't know what qualifies as a blizzard. But Utah does a really nice job going at Colorado in this sort of pseudo rivalry game. And I mean, you mentioned the the apple Cup and Utah playing the winner there in how many people will go to Santa Clara to watch Utah, Washington state. I understand these fan bases will travel for a game that they have not been in. But if you were to pick a two team duo to get the Pac twelve not super excited about the energy and the attention the Pac twelve championship will get right. You can't do that much worse. Realistically, we're talking dozens of people aren't. Yeah. I it. Listen Utah's a great story to keep the winning going without Zac moss. And and Huntley Tyler Huntley and was Oooo just other than the USC game, which they probably should have one just demolishing. The competition. Short of Cal. Barry, strange qualifier. Incredible incredible story to have a transfer quarterback. Come in there. We'll we'll talk about that momentarily. But yeah, you look across the board. It's like, Alabama Georgia. I could play divorce Jack. But I won't, you know, Oklahoma, Texas rematch. Right. Right. Right. Clemson Clemson pit is hard to say in that play. The Washington state Utah rematch which was a pretty good game and Utah had shots to win. It. Not not the same thing with with Utah, Oregon and Washington and Stanford's definitely having step back years, by the way, a blizzard if my meteorology classes, go, yeah. Please. With me. I want to say three hours of sustained snowfall mixed with thirty five mile an hour sustained winds. Okay. So not quite on that level. That's correct. Have you ever been to Denver boulder? No. So I don't know if this is true elsewhere, and it may be I just know 'cause you're a weather nerd you'd be interested in this. The only place I've been in the country. It's basically mountain Florida where there will be a legitimate snowstorm one day and the next day. It's fifty eight and sunny like there is something crazy about whatever's happening in the sky above that general region. It goes it's sways very quickly. And I love everything it's very confusing for me when I'm there. Okay. Let's. That's it. Well, sorry about was. You mentioned was UIs sixty nine to twenty eight was the final score over Arizona Gardner. Minhsiu threw for four hundred seventy three yards and seven count them. Seven seven touchdowns. He leads the nation now with forty three hundred twenty five passing yards. He is tied for the most touchdown passes with thirty six and he's one of only six quarterbacks with a completion percentage. Above seventy needless to say Gardner men's shoe has worked out quite favorably for the kooks. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And I think one of the impressive things and there's like that qualifier of like, well he throws so many times. So of course, he's going to put up the yardage totals seven hundred thousand total seventy percent is nothing to sneeze at. It's nothing to sneeze at and please don't sneeze at people, by the way. Right. Come on. It's flu season. He stone. I believe six. Or seven picks and given the pass attempts that he is put onto his resume. That's an I hear in this system. Crazy impressive. It has been. I don't know if he is New York Heisman worthy. I, you know, I I'm just guessing at what actually defines that. But I don't think you can have a conversation about the grouping of the best quarterbacks in the country without Gardner. Minzhu? Absolutely not. They also scored fifty five points in the first half. Stay they full on. I mean, I don't know if you have the somebody got murdered. I don't know what what sound. Yeah. That feels fitting in this game. Amazon ah got thrashed. They just fully got thrashed moving on the other half of the apple Cup Washington. Forty to Oregon state twenty three Washington scored twenty eight points in the first quarter. And then basically threw it in cruise control. I I'm not going to pretend like I watched any of this game. It's very difficult to watch Oregon state's defense. I think they're going to improve their getting transfers, then I think Jake Browning is now the winningest or he's thrown the most touchdowns he's been there since two thousand three he and trace McSorley on that like they had that collision course last year that seems like they've been around forever. And you know, nice to see miles gas can have a nice game. But again, it's this Oregon state defense. That's all good for Washington setting up. I love this matchup by the way the apple Cup. Yeah. It's great Washington. Secondary is such a specific strength against this Washington state passing attack. I it's I think it's Friday night. I wanna ride a night Friday night game, and is Oklahoma West Virginia Also Friday, I believe so. It's going to be like the stretch of games that we have coming up this thanksgiving weekend, and we'll get into it. I think we're going to our show earlier this week. We're gonna drop show Tuesday night. Yeah. We'll talk meets. We'll talk thanksgiving foods at the end. We promise will rank whatever you need. But love the stretch of games this week. All right. Let's go to UCLA thirty four. Oh, USC twenty-seven. We'll start with the positive here. Joshua Cal K. Josh alley. A monster mega game two hundred eighty nine yards on forty carries in the upset over USC. Anything more to add on what chip Kelly is doing. Now back half of the season for UCLA. I saw and heard because I watched most of the second half. It was something like fifty five sixty scholarship players for UCLA. That's that's a low number may be a team with as much talent. As USC has. I know use that sort of same line and correctly when they were having their own scholarship issues. But yeah, Josh Kelley to eighty nine against USC one sixty one ad Oregon in autzen Arizona, he goes for one hundred thirty six cow that really good Cal the fence. He goes for over one hundred fifty he's definitely I almost positive more games over one hundred yards than not as a transfer from UC Davis. So for a team that definitely had it struggles the first half of the season with the new system, and I think they finished three and three going into Stanford. I wanna say. A huge bright spot. And that's in even bigger bright spot of beating USC. Yeah. Yeah. What? Just you talked to Ryan Abraham was doing the Clemson show, and it talked to Ryan Abraham USC football dot com about the state of affairs. Southern Cal what's going on with Klay Hilton. At this point. I know we got the vote of confidence a couple of weeks ago. But gosh things have changed a little bit. Now with this loss. They're five and six they need to win next week over Notre Dame to make a bowl, which is very possible to rivalry game. However, I don't know if it's likely given where USC is at is USC going to make a change. It's looking to me. And this is not something that I've heard from anybody. This is just a guess it's looking that. It's like it's trending in that direction. And I don't know how closely you or anybody not particularly focused on USC. Listen to the show with Ryan Abraham. But his big point was USC does not want to make a change. They might be forced to given the level of competitiveness and the pressures that might be put on USC by some big money boosters as they renovate the Coliseum. He mentioned a couple of those posters are spending a lot of money on sweets, and thus wield some power in the future of the program. Right. They don't want to make a move. And there was a story that Lynn Swann hug clay Hilton said see you Monday, at least indicating that he won't be fired during this show. But the. Say it's November. If you want to take this opportunity to react to a clay Helton firing trust in case, I won't hold it against you. The bigger picture issues with USC, and this is from watching them. This is from talking to Ryan Abraham. It's a pretty down offensive line year in the fire the offensive line coach couple of weeks ago. They shifted the play calling the play calling has been pretty stubborn with a true freshman at quarterback who has been counted onto just sort of make big plays downfield and not necessarily count on some playmakers shorter in the offense shorter down the field. Whatever. Defense has been largely pretty good. And sometimes that's not enough when the offense has struggled scoring three points at Stanford. They've had I don't know four or five games where they haven't scored more than one touchdown in the second half teams are just out scheming out coaching, and it appears Klay help just has a ceiling of leading USC to to being pretty good. And I can't imagine that's acceptable to most people who are emotionally or financially invested in the success of USC. So I my sense is if it's ugly against Notre Dame. If this USC team looks listless because it could also be a situation where they just feel like they're backed up against a corner. And they're just going to take the biggest swings. They can against Notre Dame because they got nothing really to lose chair. If they just look like they want the season to end if they just look like they don't want to be within the same program as clay Helton in the staff, I think USC is going to be forced to make a change talk to me. About Oregon ASU in thirty seconds. I can probably don't ten. Good offensively for a chunk of the first half and ugly. Pick from Justin. Herbert I say for the first half because one I went to sleep at halftime, two super lad, I went to sleep at halftime because of my two out of three bad outcomes theory about staying up late and three they scored three points in the second half, which I believe was four pun some muffed. Punt to field goal and interception. A dropped touchdown wide. Open touchdown drop. I think Justin Herbert has had some pretty bad luck. In terms of both play calling an offense a scheme and stubbornness and drops and general receiver talent Dila Mitchell's incredible. They finally did get the ball in space to some of their faster. Dudes in the first half, take the free Orage. They did. And then shut it down. No killer instinct against a decent ASU team and barely survived. Sure. Whatever move forward. Okay. And Stanford cow, by the way is rescheduled due to poor air quality from the wall. By the way, it is crazy out in cal-. It is. I mean, just talking to my parents in southern California seeing the images in northern California with the missing persons report, not to go too far away from this. But it is affecting college football games. Yeah. Like we. I know we have a lot of listeners out in California and everywhere in the state, man. I hope you are doing. All right. I hope you're people are doing. All right. I hope your possessions and your life is doing. All right. It's it's pretty terrifying to see what's happening out west. And I I know I can speak for both of us. You know, we're thinking of everybody out there. It is terrorists. They're typically terrible. I it it's it hurts is a Californian to say. All right. Hope everyone is safe. Let's go to the SEC. We saved them for last. We had a lot of comments come into headquarters here about cupcake Saturday, Dan. Yeah. And I mean, it was like miracle on thirty four street postal workers. Holland in the sacks of the messages to the courtroom. It was it was a slow afternoon. So I was willing to engage outside of six teams in the SEC everyone else played a non power five opponent. How you feel about it? It doesn't really bother me to be honest. I would always prefer a high level clash because it's insurance thing. And because at this point, I see everything through the lens of what makes for an interesting podcast. And certainly as a fan, you always wanna see high level match ups between two teams that maybe have a chance to win something something more. Sure. But you want you want heightened stakes? You know, we talk about November being are absolute favorite period of the college football calendar. And we want the entirety of November to feel that way. But there are a lot of SEC teams that are trying to schedule topnotch opponents outside a conference Alabama case in point, you know, it didn't work out this year with the Louisville game. But all in previous years for sure they've been scheduled in all sorts of teams USC you name it now Vanson. Yeah. Alabama LSU you mentioned that she was kansin. There are plenty of examples. You're Georgia Notre Dame where you've got top level SEC teams going out of conference when they can't schedule prime opponents the SEC schedule as a whole is also a murderer's row top to bottom to schedule a game. Like this. I understand it's not gonna draw headlines. But I understand it. And I don't think I have a. I'm with it. No. I I understand the frustration from fans of teams that play nine game conference seasons in conferences that have nine games. I understand the frustration. But nobody's forcing anybody to play nine games. Nine games is probably the better situation for the big ten and Pac twelve and now big ten now that they have ten teams. I get that. I get why a dis want more good games. They want higher level opponents in their stadiums to sell out and make everything look attractive for their TV partners and the SEC's in a specific situation. I don't think anybody played more than one FCS team this year other than Florida, but they scheduled Idaho in Idaho has an FBI team since moving down to believe Idaho's in the Big Sky now through so I get it. And the SEC is taking advantage of the rules. This is this is a sport that we love that we never confused with being fair. So it's just one of those charming dumb things that SEC. Teams and programs. Whatever are able to get away with having this before rivalry week. And if other schools could I think a lot of them would that all said tie because I'm fine with it. That all said here are the list of teams who lost to SEC teams this week. Are you ready? Yes, I'm I'm throwing a bone at our our brethren. Elsewhere. Yes. The citadel you mass rice, Idaho, middle, Tennessee, Arkansas, Tennessee, liberty UAB omiss. Shad do. Don't die. Sorry. I'm I really gave my all their an emotional divorce Jak here. There's my recovery. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. I really wanted. I I think I did a pretty good time. A pretty good job timing Chattanooga there. It was good. It was very good. If you happen to catch. Oh, man. You're right. It just takes so much out of the did you happen to catch any of the Bama game where they kept saying to his last name incorrectly. No, I missed that. That was on that was back and forth. Mute for me. Apparently, the SEC network missed the memo tongue of tag Avello Lozano now on the SEC network. Yeah. Some injuries rally. Bama, by the way, some injuries to talk about here. Now, they've got the iron bowl next week against Auburn. And they've obviously got the SEC championship game against Georgia. They won fifty two seventeen though tied ten ten at halftime. So yes tied at halftime. They come out and blow the doors off the citadel struggling somewhat with the the triple option that the citadel was running. I know there's going to be chop blocks. That's just a a reality of it. But Deontay Thomson Alex Leatherwood on the offensive line and acquitted Williams was dinged up. I think a lot of these guys are guys that would would have come back if needed but to see to out. They're running around. I don't think he had his knee brace Damian Harris left the game. So, you know, there are some key guys who who look dinged up to various extents but hoping for the best for other health. Let me run through very quickly. What transpired around the SEC? Okay. Did have a lot of these matchups again, not headliners but important to at least dignify here. Auburn wins. Fifty three to nil over liberty Florida wins sixty three to ten over Idaho. By the way, Emory Jones played and got significant time in that one. Which is probably exciting for Gators fans. Didn't watch any of this throw Bazzaz ten for sixteen for one hundred seventeen yards in two touchdowns. Hey, I'm saying one twenty-five tie twenty-five. Yeah. All right. Not bad. Right. Oh, idaho. But yeah. Georgia sixty six UMass twenty-seven, the dogs led forty to thirteen at half and Justin fields came in and saw some significant. Action as well. Yeah. If they're at eight times, but made the most of it we at LSU forty two ten over rice. We had Kentucky struggling a bit. But getting the job done against middle. Tennessee your final. Here was thirty four to twenty three by the way, if Kentucky gets by Louisville next week to get to nine wins. And if they win their ballgame that would get him to ten for the first time since nineteen seventy seven not insignificant not insignificant. And it was believe the first time Kentucky scored thirty points for some FBI team since we won. I believe it's been since central Michigan Joe borough completed a really healthy percentage of his passes against rice, the dude God, the receivers think was Sullivan is enormous. He is literally enormous, and that's always fun for me to watch Trayvon Williams. Had a nice day for Texas. Am as they listen UAB's had an incredible season. You have it's a different level. It's different by the way. I think it was Bill Clark. Who referenced who called Alabama the university of Alabama at Tuscaloosa? Yeah. Love that love that vandy. Ole miss got weird late. I did not understand that call where it appeared. I think it was AJ Brown came down with the touchdown. And then the ball sorta rolled out into Vanderbilt players arms, and they just called it incomplete. Alright. South Carolina, not much to talk about against Chattanooga. Auburn shut liberty quietly strange season for liberty. But yeah, they got shut out by Auburn. So there's that I really liked Mizzou last week. I think you were either leading towards Tennessee or took Tennessee, I ended up taking Mizzou. But that's because my initial leaning was Tennessee, right? Yes. And I really did think that they were gonna be overvalued after that Kentucky game, which they were. But I'm still optimistic about Tennessee long-term. But yeah, Mizzou really just they they laid the would there, and it was it was a nice day for Roundtree on the ground. Congratulations, by the way to Nick FitzGerald. Who is now the third player an SEC history with fifty passing touchdowns in forty rushing touchdowns. Can you name the other two? Tibo has to be one of them. Right. Tim tebow was one. Yeah. Because he was there for a long time. I mean part of me wants say Manziel, but he wasn't there for that long. So Dak Prescott. It is Dak okay make sense. Finally, let's go to this one. You see f thirty eight Cincinnati thirteen UCF look really good in this game. I'm not going to sit here and read off stats for you. But they look good. They did they torched a good defense. They want going away. They've got the nation's longest winning streak at twenty three games in all of those games. UCF has scored at least thirty points. I am not going to sit here and beat the drum for UCF to get into the playoff. How ever however if everything goes haywire in the next two weeks? It's not the craziest possibility, you know. Like, we talked about how the circumstance. Dances benefit Notre Dame this year in their playoff chances. You could kind of make that same case for UCF. If we ended up having what seven teams with two losses the hard truth about this season. Dan, is it there just aren't that many compelling storylines outside this Alabama slow March towards Clemson? Right. So if you match up the nation's longest winning streak against presumably the best team in the history of college football, Alabama that would at a bare minimum at least draw some eyeballs and be an interesting storyline to write about. It's an interesting case to at least mentally explore UCF is really good. And I was specifically impressed defensively. Because I I want to say that the early Cincinnati touchdown was a the just zero yard drop on a fumble. Touchdown. So that was an important step for me because UCF's defense was the liability last year and has been a time. This year, but we were sold on UCF's offense. Specifically the nights were just they were very very good against a good Cincinnati defense. So they run away from a college football playoff ranked team in Cincinnati nine and one. That's impressive. Gimme that's more. Impressive than Ohio states win against Maryland will state currently head of UCF West Virginia lost. They will be falling. Washington state. Did nothing to tell me that they deserve to fall. Let alone. They should probably rise LSU is disqualified in my mind, right as they are team. That's been shut out Oklahoma. I would probably still keep ahead of them their losses and bad and is looking better. And they just they're arresting. They are intriguing because of Cuyler Murray there they have to be in that conversation because he is probably one of the five most dangerous players in college football at any position. But if you were to tell me, okay, it's Oklahoma at six was at seven UCF at eight and UCF lays waste to whoever in the American championship game. I guess Houston's without Derek king now. So that changes that calculus a little bit a little bit of an easier win. If that's what we see. That I will. I'm I'm fine. I think Kirk herbstreit at a certain point during the game was like there are five teams that stand part for sure right now. And if you wanna put UCF in that six seven eight conversation, there's not a compelling case. I know people are going to be like strangers coach will join a for instance, they've they've tried. They've tried to try to power five conference. It's not the easiest thing in the world. I'm fine with UCF taking that next step up and being in a position should Michigan loose northwestern. Should Georgia lose to Georgia Tech. Should Notre Dame lose to USC should, you know, Oklahoma loons to Texas stay need, they need a lot to break allots v in the conversation. Finally, let me just conclude with this. We had Boise state winning forty five fourteen over to Mexico Houston winning forty eight to seventeen you mentioned Eric king out for the year. He's got a torn meniscus of bummer. Oh, did you see the ad Oliver thing that was weird. Right. So the case you missed it. So Houston played Thursday believe they blow out too lame. But at Oliver's not playing, and then I they show I saw some of this on van pelts. He is not playing because of a knee injury something like that. And he's on the field beforehand going out for passes jumping out of the air and catching one handed pass whatever and then puts on a jacket. Like a it's a cold night in Houston. He puts on a jacket on the sideline wearing like a warmup suit and major Applewhite head coach of Houston goes after him because those jackets are reserved for players who are playing in to keep them warm. Go ahead. Oliver going after the guy that you're sending out Heisman horse riders. Like, you're sitting out with the highest profile recruit in the history of your program. I understand maybe there's more to what's going on very strange. Very strange berry, by the way, solid. Verbal jacket shirts available. If you go to stolid verbal dot com slash store. Still available for a couple of days. Oh, you work. Very confusing. We jacket shirts. Like, there's something new. But yes, the the style is there's a jacket on shirts. Memphis with a strange win that just got weird at the end against SMU. That was Friday. I believe temple comes back there down. I think they're getting shut down at halftime against USF. They come back in a very strange weird. Game navy gets a win, which we haven't said all that often this year. I believe they'd be Tulsa. There was I mean, we we wanted dedicate a good chunk to Colgate. Army right. No. Are we? Okay. So Colgate actually sort of makes it a game. But they don't cover the ten eleven point spread. They lose by a couple touchdowns and loses their first MAC game. To a not that good. Miami of Ohio in a pretty ugly game North Texas, a nice comeback win against FAU. They were able to get it going on the ground, which it's been a very different season for the mean green. You mentioned Boise. A really nice win. There. Elsewhere. I mentioned the UAB thing Marshall women we led with it. So we might as well talk about it again is Ahah green nice. He's back. He throws for nearly four hundred yards in a couple of touchdown. So cool to see doc Holliday and his team succeeding in cuckoo Setsu at is called conference detained. Can I interrupt you for a second lease pleases I- breathlessly go through this? We do some dudes. I would love to do something. Could we got this week let me load Madurai list? I mean, you lied. We can just say Anthony McFarland open shut. But there are more Josh Kelley who we mentioned UCLA Jalen regular little Jordan Humphry corn dog our guy, Taylor Cornelia, Oklahoma state Barrett. Pickering the kicker Nebraska, responsible for all their points ally. Gilman at Notre Dame was all over the place. Jake moody for Michigan. They need that guy d Andre Torrey. I just mentioned North Texas. He was guy on the ground for them that pit defense. I mentioned David Blau, you know, in a losing effort Jonathan Taylor tailback. I mean, he's should be retired. But you go over three hundred we've got a we've got an earmark you a little bit shot lobster at Boise state who we just mentioned Puka Williams. Mr turbo. That's I mean, I guess California firefighters that's a bunch of dudes. And I don't know I women dudes and women women dudes. I don't know. Utah state. Did you see the end of that game? Oh, yeah. All back. I'll man the fail. Mary. I like we laugh, but what a dumb like Mike bubbas been through a whole bunch this. You know, the season started in a pretty awful way for Colorado state on the field. And I want to say Preston Williams was the receiver. He steps out of bounds. Catch is the hail Mary doesn't count. Because of if you're not forced out of bounds. You can't just can't do it. You just can't go out of bounce. So Utah state is able to survive as they move forward in the mountain west ODU drop seventy seven points. Upstate slow start. They get it going in Georgia states. Arkansas state quietly as turn things around after a bad start to the season Vada, you know, San Jose State actually has been playing with some fight out there in the mountain west and Nevada gets buy them nicer for J Norval, and the wolf pack Troy ugly win, but they get the win as they have not lost in the sun belt's with as much as they've been through change in personnel. Wise, the Trojans and man somebody nail Brown come on doing right. All right. Carl Pollini two in a row tie. All right settled down on. Let's talk about week thirteen real quick. Okay. Let's talk about week thirteen while you catch your breath. Let me go through. BYU beat to Mexico state and Fresno, a nice emphatic win San Diego states offense is so bad. I tall thought points, San Diego State. Yeah. All right. So here's Bill. Let's talk next week. Here is what we're looking at. We have to come up with a name for this. Maybe not this show. But on thanksgiving you've got the egg bowl. Mississippi State at old miss then on Friday, you've got Nebraska Iowa, Oregon, Oregon state Homa West Virginia and Washington Washington state the apple Cup then on Saturday. Listen to this Michigan, Ohio state, Auburn, Alabama, South Carolina. Clemson Notre Dame. USC? You've got a bunch of rivalries here. We've got Kentucky wolfville NC state, North Carolina, Florida, Florida state. Arizona state Arizona BYU Utah. Perdue Indiana pit my. Cami Minnesota, Wisconsin, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, vandy LSU, Texas, an UCF, south, Florida, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and probably a bunch of other games that I ran out of breath say, but right needless to say week thirteen is going to be a biggie. It is rivalry week. We'll have our own name for it on Tuesday. Dan, but exciting week ahead. Not just a week thirteen. But as we get into conference championships in fourteen mad one thing, please. Because it was like outside of Colgate. Army which legitimately was interesting. Lee high vapor is left. Three thirty four to three. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing is Holy Cross. Does the impossible tie riding the wave of Gordie Fiqh bomb? That's his name. Right, right. They go to the Hornets nest that is multi sport fields. No and a twenty point comeback in the fourth quarter and beat Georgetown by one. So rivalry week comes a week early in the patriot league. But Colgate going to the playoffs of the F C S on the F C S level, which I want to say starts next weekend. We will be covering that game. We covering that game. Okay. Listen fund show is said week twelve in the books. Save the date Saturday in the books. Thank you for calling us at four zero eight verbal one don't forget to find us in reach out via Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. Go to the sub Reddit at red dot com slash are slash solid. Verbal created by ballers four ver ballers we've got a loaded week coming up here in week thirteen as we mentioned earlier we're going to put. That show out on Tuesday. Because a lot of folks are going to be traveling on Wednesday wanna make games on Thursday games on Thursday. We want to make sure we have some hashtag content available for you in your travels on your way to thanksgiving dinner, or wherever Dan do you want to by the way, this is half serious? Do you want to actually react to any coaches? Who might get fires record? This like we like there are legitimate candidates. I mean, we we talked about clay Helton. I don't know what's going to happen with Larry fedora. They're sitting at one and six in the at this point. I don't know how safe he may be we already know about David Beatty. I don't think anybody else Bill Snyder. I guess is a possibility. But I don't know if it'll happen like it'll add think it'll happen more on that will be a regal retirement as opposed to a firing. Right. And that won't probably be announced before the season ends. I think Rutgers is that's that's situations. Done for Chris ash is what it sounds. Like, I don't know about lovey Smith. But I just like that we're mentioning these names. So we can close to give ourselves some. Yeah. Ahead here because to Sunday's there have been firings that have happened literally fifteen minutes after we hit the stop button the Mike MacIntyre. We haven't really mentioned that story at TV outlet in boulder. I believe it was either Denver boulder mentioned that he would not be the coach moving forward. Then there were conflicting reports that no decision had been made. But it's certainly not looking great as nave loss. Now. Now, six straits, SEC wise, I can't imagine anybody is in full danger. So, you know, especially with Derek Mason and Vanderbilt getting a nice win in overtime against ole miss. So I think in terms of power five jobs were pretty safe. All right. Well, listen Wong show here. That's okay. Long show today. But that's all right. Get ready for week thirteen. Thank you for being with us here on weei, twelve Dan. I'm going. 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2019 Preview, Part 4: Teams a L'Orange

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2019 Preview, Part 4: Teams a L'Orange

"Welcome to the town full cast as corrected Internet's only college football podcast glad shows us but you really didn't have a choice did you for sniffling into the Mike I you know seasons change reasons change and allergies change and fortunately seasons changing means we are coming up on previews destroyed that segue absolutely nailed it <hes> our divisions for a preview this week <hes> we have <hes> by we I mean I'll anderson and I are going to cover the actually orange teams. That's how we broken this up. Jason did it don't complain to us. He's not here this week. Teams that have actual Orange <hes> Ryan and special guests Stephen Godfrey Stephen Godfrey. Are you on the Mike Anywhere Yeah. It's my first time on a podcast congratulations listing high. You'll it's a thrilling medium. I betcha enjoy it a meager. This is exciting. <hes> one thing we need on the Internet. It's access to more of your opinions Brian. You in Steven will be covering which teams Oh. I don't have the list hold on no no but I like this by category by category. These are listed as the fake Orange Division this this lease so you like plus the state of Virginia. We're like Florida's natural yard Tang the drink of astronauts. That's right that actually I like that. We're I like that. Were not naming the teams for this reason we can go best to worst and front-load all the stuff. We actually WanNa talk about because you have to stick ground because you don't even know which teams are in this division let alone which ones are worst. We have your money. We have all your money and we will use it to buy drugs. It's too late and that will flush the drugs that create math gators math gators. Here's I actually wrote a short in college. Held meth sharks Mississippi that is exactly what you think it is Ole Miss Fan fiction ahead of my time in all things and that's and that's how you get a alliance sharks are real mascot is pharmacology fans to the left fan and they still have the <hes> they still have the world America's biggest controlled we'd farm and apparently it's the worst marijuana you've ever smoked. That's what everyone says this is this is not what we say here. Jokes told we have never told a joke. I would wear a shirt that in old miss script said Oxycontin Boo <music> game dirtbag wine month launch very I touch my personal brand quite like that and then it's got then. It's got Colonel Rab just holding his back on the back. There's like a two Oh no no no what about for the ladies. There's a tank top but over each boob. It's like two different pharmacy chains but Pensacola Line I will miss. This isn't even your preview yet. You're not orange. Sit Down Ryan referenced the Alabama Department Public Health saying don't flush drugs 'cause the drugs will turn alligators into meth crazed alligators houses was a warning. I'm sorry y'all have been stockpiling air fifteen all this time for what because you can't fight the government you can and you know what's going to help you fight the government meth gators. That's right put him on a leash. That's just Walter. He's a cheerful one anyway Florida's in this division. That's true Florida's in this division. That's a fucking segway. I think gentlemen we were going to start with the top of the division for reasons that are going to be explained. I explained them like three minutes ago. You're gonNA explain them again now. Now just start so at the top Hallamshire. The Best Team in your division is Florida. No no no no really because Ach at Florida fuck up that schedule at we're gonNA talk about that all right Florida's schedules pure magic this year by magic I mean a miracle of shady tax accounting coninck created by magicians yes but that's not who I wanted to start with because I think at the top of the division I'm GonNa put per focused tradition and a grain of truth about this year schedule the Great State Texas Yeah Baby Weight the LONGHORNS. That'd be the Longhorns All U._T._S._A.. Day here on shutdown polecat Texas back on our show you no this is actually the I love this the Jake Trotter of E._S._p._N.. Dot Com starting his spring preview. What was the lead? What was the lead? What is the lead that you cannot resist here that you have to start with XS by Texas back Sadak guns back? I don't know this on that. No that was pretty good. Renditions not here so we can't do jeans truck guns Keady Jeans Joke gone on the Golf off-course after private stool in Dallas and my name's Jordan speed. Don't take my guns because they're my dad's. He's a he's a pharmacology night right now. He's a dentist tax attorney. He's a dentist Anna Judge Yemen the dinner dinner's judge in the town. I feel like that's Louisianan Down Jason Part of Louisiana. That's someone who's in charge of entire parish the person that he's a he's a judge Louisiana. He's a dentist at Beaumont. He has to cross the line. Yes I like that. He takes expensive trip to Venezuela to you can pay cut bass turn his brain rover. He'll kick your to censor it. They're not GONNA say for every year. You and Jason Say Texas is going to go nine in three Yep <unk> nine nine hundred ninety three with the wind ballgame baby. That's we'll go that gets to what what you're saying there eighteen a regular season game yes ten wins. They'RE GONNA get to ten wins. That's what I'm going to say about Texas Texas the Texas ten per per tradition and by the way I am taking a big Zip of tea right now actual t sip in happened in here so there are a couple of really interesting things he's here a Texas Texas is adult conference schedule is both good and bad <hes> they play rice in Houston Energy Stadium Rice. I yeah wow so you don't have to schedule an F._C._S. team and you you get a neutral site game. Pay Out. I guess I guess that's what that is. Fight the private school kids in the hot flat parking lot. How does how does sexist start with Louisiana Louisiana Tech and L._S._U.? But you straight week three at rice it's building up right like he's going Kito. Bless his heart power and is is realize we're going to talk about Terry Bradshaw and suspenders Belfast migraine and this is the guy who confuse stars for the word for the letter A. in Discussing Sam elegant who he said he can't throw he's not that good now go with our guys and he's wearing if you haven't seen the Clip Terry Bradshaw House wearing what appears to be the outfit of dilute shop owner nineteen a judge in inherit the wind he got Eli one of those courtroom. X.'s like the one who runs at the beginning. He's like trains. Come off the tracks squirrel. Oh yes you had trouble but won't pool. Pool is doesn't corrupt are you Terry Got News for you. Buddy marching band cure all that yes this Fox pregame shows do they. Is there like an effects budget because this was just raw until video on series like that. That man is why I never thought I think so little of a man who wants passed up a starting job because it would interfere with squirrel hunting season and yet here we are. We'll say Terry Bradshaw talk about how Sam elegance that good also. What a squirrel hunting season? It should be all the time you know. I don't think you need to let girls population recharge yeah I. I've never heard of anyone getting checked on shooting a squirrel ever in multiple southern states the interesting thing about Saint L. Anger. Is that <hes> one everyone will tell you how bad he is and how good he is. That's it that's Texas is quarterbacks longer <hes> bad they'll point out that he can't pass through thirty two hundred yards last year pretty good. He loses Jordan Humphry though this year which <hes> I don't know I think anytime you lose little Jordan Humphry you've lost something low Jordan Humphry as you've lost something culturally spiritually and also statistically okay in terms of actual production at wide receiver. He is the only Texas quarterback ever to pass for Twenty Five T. D.'s and run for fifteen I because he's at Texas quarterback that has absolutely no bearing on what's going to happen to him this year none mm absolutely not because also he's running back because <hes> semi longer the it'd be Georgia see how they did it by running him point blanket of the Georgia defense over and over and over again sustainable cares it's Texas. It's ironic ironic that Georgia lost a game of Red Rover. It's literally your mascot. Are you telling me those red dogs couldn't run. Maybe played line the field with ice axe. You got to breathe the do that so <hes> also defense babies everywhere. They've just got to replace eight starters law to us. Fortunately they're not going to be challenged offensively in the first month the season 'cause you know yeah. You'RE GONNA be playing L._S._U.. It'll be fine smashing <unk> question <hes> <unk> Stephen Godfrey from Nashik Dot com where in the latter half of this conference scheduled do you predict the most horrific potential Texas loss to a lower tier big. Okay Oh buddy. That's an Iowa state. He said lower-tier Iowa state is squarely in the upper tier right now. Fuck you Baylor's also totally possible doesn't exist anymore. Well we're bringing it back. Taxes Yeah Yeah we can. We buy that goodbye to sell the I like. I like at Baylor between those two choices because if you look at this year this year like Texas fans won't like it but it's not it's not indefensible. If you lose the Baylor Yeah people are GonNa be bad about what you could easily do especially if you get in a position where your best play is quarterback power. I know it doesn't seem like it but Sam Al Gore could get injured. That's entirely possible. This is a pretty convenient way to send that rule to the N._F._l.. I like a he added shot but he wanted to. I don't know actually hire his own assistance. How bad is the New York jets when you're going to stay somewhere where I have to allegedly send my friends to Dallas to buy booze for me and seeking into the back of my house never gonNA stop laughing at desire or at this attempt by the jets? I'M GONNA sires. I'm rather stay in Waco Rather. I'd rather sit in Waco where allegedly friends of mine come to visit an allegedly email lists of wine liquor are sent out to say allegedly Ryan's our lawyer Oak privileged shit last last note. A Texas has to replace the three starters on the line one nominee to do that freshman Isaiah Huck Finn what Isaiah I yeah if ever there were a name that I was going to get tattooed on on my neck hi Sam Huck Finn so happy so flip a coin for the Red River 'cause. I don't know that's just southern came goes congratulations. You're the random winner of this game and the margin will be week random number thirty eight points thirty eight points and then throw in <hes> the predictable embarrassing road loss assume they sweep all the others you know I'm just going to say they're going to be l._S._U.. 'cause I don't Hey L._S._U.'S OFFENSIVE REVAMP GUYS embarrassing road loss. Can I take Iowa state years ago. We covered in standard. Nano Classic never goes out of style everyone of you. You should skip past K. state at home. Now I said embarrassing road loss not inevitable yeah yeah and it's a road game. It's actually could actually run the triple. We have no idea ten months aby gentlemen. That's what I got ernest third best best best as the division new money still. Let's Jason's not here. Let's just put him down for undefeated Texas season out good. That's okay he's both by the way this bed has. Come through for me so I'm just going to go ahead and keep doubling down Texas ten wins by is this Texas back hail yeah how can prove that nobody listens to this podcast and we could say anything we want with impunity. Let's turn now to the other side of the Red River shootout rivalry Oklahoma state in the little known cowboys went seven and six last year they lost by huge margins to Kansas State Baylor in Texas tech in retrospect. They were lucky to even do that. Well <hes> Avenue Coordinator this year from Princeton Sean Gleeson steeple. He's extremely creative has offenses that scoring records in the Ivy League might gundy probably just picked him up top of the national ranking sheet. This is actually how Gandhi Higher Score Nader's. He said so interviews. He's I am not just saying that. Because he remains the word I <hes> although he does remain the worst new quarterback at Oklahoma State redshirt Freshman Spencer Sanders at he's a four star and he can hurdle or it could be drew brown a transfer into your starter at Hawaii. <hes> stopped me if you've heard this story before but my was laughing hey Mike Debbie has a two quarterback problem. That's never gone well or lead to a sound. I liked all went for the rest of Yorker by by jumping in here. <hes> the move from Honolulu to stillwater. How badly do you want her? Yeah man listen listen foods cheaper more of it listen appall mistakes. Brief are down in the country geographic <unk>. I've never been colder in my life than I was attending in Oklahoma state game at listen. Maybe you hate the beach you hate the beach and you love low grocery. Prices still so one anyway prayers up for Drew Brown who inattention addition to traveling from Honolulu to stillwater on purpose up half lift my gundy sorry did anyway around him tons of receivers scale talent tile walls receiver and I'm vamping now because I want to get to the rarest breed of the mall the star Canadian running back Shuba Hubbard of Alberta Hubbard from Hamburg furniture from that did not land with with the joy that I hope it might we'll try to his name's star Canadian running back. What's wrong with you people? You heard you God forgo aren't like anyway like a metal gear solid guard all right. I'm moving on because we're trying to keep this breath but anyway star Canadian running back. Defense is probably GONNA be shaky. They lost their leading pass. rushers secondary will be way more experienced started a bunch of Frenchman Safety Twenty eighteen. They have to experience three years starters at quarterback at a star Canadian running back and Canadian running back. I think that's yeah yeah. There is there is there's a guy who's coming out of mission. WHO's a transfer for from a JEW CO IN UTAH? His name is twenty two year old defensive tackle Sioni OSCE and I like him for two reasons he plugs a big spot in the middle of Oak states defense that needs plugging and in addition to that his alma mater from the transfer that Snow College in Utah. You say I would just no college subjects of staying that just like one of those snowboard parks yeah that's assist. That's fantastic. That's that's like when you get tired of naming. Mario tracks find it Snow College. Whatever <hes> local mistake schedule is there route scheduled for off man <hes> they they start with trips to Corvallis Tulsa for some reason you mean rough in the like? This is fun thing to do there and then Texas Texas Tech Iowa State West for it's not it's not great with yes. It's hard for me to get a lot of Marriott points on these trips because the hotels are all say Austin Austin will be a relief both in the Marriott points in the rough environment. Are you gotTa Hampton in those situations. We've talked Oklahoma. State is Oklahoma estate by the way Hamptons that close in West Virginia you gotta stay at like a fucking comfort to answer guy named Hampton. He'd say with mate can't ask questions you see for the first couple of weeks of the season. This team gets by <music> nomination as T- most likely confused with a package right like weird drag it said Tulsa Nelson Corvallis Nelson stillwater weird. I thought that's all I know. One bid on star Canadian running backs looks jar eighty running back. I thought it was awesome by the way like I know what it feels like to be Ryan like all team candidate sprinter to like that's how fast you Hubbard is. It's better than Justice Hill last distress mild and nodded politely. I thought that was the most like you know Canadian thing to do to that fine next up to visually impaired third but the study let's pick the third place team in the division the Florida gator I heard that before anonymous just throw grenades from a hole in the ground not a problem the the greatest the greatest schedule in the history of Florida football and is correct which is really sang something considering your propensity for even getting close to the panhandle. Oh man listen. There's all kinds of travel we'll go to first of all Florida on their schedule this year two thousand nineteen now on but but to F._C._S. teams baby and how many by weeks and called trickle down economics ancient sexy sexual Madonna Economics each should is actually the sequel or the Prequel to that gator movie. That's out right now. It's a it's a magical one. I we have a <hes>. I do not think that that math is correct on the bye week by the way we've got to buy weeks huffing three for some reason when I was living schedule it I have to have to look the actually it is cerebral weeks three. It works out like this because they moved by Miami. I game up to August twenty fourth to play Miami sure in Orlando so that means they have the week of August thirty first off to prep to play Tennessee Martin which if you just sound is saying like it's poker player. He sounds scary. Yeah you gotTA. That's that's that's yeah. We need a Bi Week. That'd be great <hes> wheel of Fortune Before Never Tennessee Martin Lawrence just be like Oh my God to Martin Lawrence. He's Narcan Okay Yeah. He was in behead boys. Okay and particularly bad boys NAMPA boys everybody but me hate bad boys to let's move on but yeah and then and then Florida Florida manages to actually have a perfectly manageable schedule from that point right like <hes> the the gotTa take a road trip to Kentucky revenge. GotTa take a road trip to L._S._U.. As a coin flip game they gotta go to South Carolina and then they gotta go to Mizzou which I will respect. Go ahead and say that's probably the toughest road game because Dang it Mizzou Peadar ass wait to be clear. You think Mizzou is the harder road game than L._S._U.. Yes because we have seized L._S._U.. L._S._U.. Recently have beaten L._S._U.. Recently Hey hey and the valley shook and your army. Thanks ahead of time for all the fucking fans match you. They're gonNA come at you about something you know when seriously when they come at your neck talk about everything they're coming at your neck about nothing we can beat you at home. That happens. It's happened is really worry about having a study college football for this episode I'm already. I'm already using we. That's fine are already using we as I recall by the away if you come at my neck you'll stop about an inch short of the goal line regarding road games and wins at L._S._U.. Which one is your neck is? Don't ask don't ask that no no no no no no no backout back. That's fine. It's it's the karate. If you tried to pass this message onto me. You'll have less than fifty percent completion rate on it all right. You can't do this while Jason's not here. I totally do this out recently removed. You are from gator chopping child. I can't slander Senator Joe Borough of its facts as the spirit anyway so email so you can d._m.. Me On twitter at thirty eight Godfrey because work when I'm in the room. Does this works better. You know it's come and do standard these four Max. I think it's terrific when he talked about for a week we decided floyd was going to be the complete line. Immediately abandoned that gun quickly so by the way Florida actually skilled players Kinda has to replace enough offensive line with the quickness. 'cause you know plus four starters on the online. <hes> also get some shuffling to do on the defense so there's holes out there but Lord we got a quarterback we got some skill players will see threshold bristles together. I think this is like nine three Florida. That's I will say that. That's like some serious fucking panic in those first three S._e._C. Games because Jackie is desperate to show you. They're not going to become Kentucky again right. Then you have Tennessee moving on then you have auburn who is going to be apoplectic as usual and probably already has one or two losses that is some high level of desperate wounded animal three you can you can stack l._S._U.. In South Carolina to that till you can stretch it out to the first five. 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We'll see their you know. I think you should calm down. Holly Forgo Jesus Poise. I forgot to tell you guys about something amazing. I saw on the way back from our Ann Arbor show which is another United Ryan disregard but those of us who live in places where we drive in other those lineup Marquees in intimacy in Georgia everywhere that just lists the number of traffic deaths each year. Yes which you know here in Atlanta we take ooh scoreboard moment <hes> as soon as you cross the state line from Michigan into Ohio Clink South on seventy five <hes> those those marquee start popping up and there's a message that changes like two or three <unk> times about you know save a life blah blah blah go slow but one of the flashing messages just says you need to calm down like I took a picture of this actually coming coming back down because I saw on the way that I thought I must have misread it and on the way down I saw it again and I took a picture that we can put up the but talk about knowing your audience. They're trying to get people to fight the sign ships cute that's neat calmed down by fence like an emergency warning to all ohio-based driver five to sign up the cops by the sign of Commerce whose whose fourth in your division fourth in our division Oh laid on him. Oh Shit. Let's me <hes> Syracuse. We like Syracuse POW. Wow I know which teams are left here. Division okay all right. I'm sorry this is is this or is it not a dino baber span cast. It is very much yeah. This is ardently pro dino show. We'll continue to be so so <hes> Syracuse is missing the only player you know Eric Dungy he of the Grapes of showers however in a devastating move to wrest control of the title of New York's. Works College football team their replacements U._B.. As named Tommy Devito who staten island just went orange but a- as usual when I'm going to previews I want to pick one special teamer to talk about in this case. It's placekicker Andre Schmidt <hes> you might have heard of him because he is a former soccer player like several punters he walked onto series we will he walked onto a team like many former soccer players who become kickers punters unlike other former kickers punters. This guy walked on Syracuse twenty any seventeen as placekicker redshirt freshman season at twenty eighteen in which he won the job and then one the grows award. He learned that he would be syracuse starting kicker one one week before the governor at Western Michigan <hes> and Syracuse he may have seen if you've read Bill Connolly's for you had some serious red zone issues last year so <hes> on her Schmidt attempted thirty thirty four field goals amid thirty of them damn yet he won the GROZA. I might have mentioned in his first season of college football. He didn't even think he played football at all until he was like a senior in high school <hes> anyway. I'm I'm excited about College Hubbell's easy. That's the lesson it's fine. <hes> also he plays endorse kicking like an eastport basically yeah yeah yeah also if I can pull straight from bill for one second. This is another just another real quick quick reason to agitate for Syracuse football this year. We're trying to keep this asked <hes> Eh simply plus doesn't trust syracuse yet per bill and projects seven one possession games for the orange eighteen actually either seven or eight depending on where you look in this preview so that'll be fun. You know that is yeah more T._v.. Time for Andrea Schnitt nope. That's the at E._S._P._N.. Conspiracy bias at Phil Connelly all network Male Connie Bill connerly E._S._p._N.. At that sears their cell we're onto you homeland bill connerly Claire Danes who can tell them apart notice. This high bet on Syracuse allows us to sneak in just below them the Auburn Tigers were they belong below syracuse that is that is correct. We just talk about academic. Rankings is likely take s take the S._N._p.. Out of E._S._P._N.. Dan You get e an N.. What does that sound Sanford efficient Nanno bots? It's right there but you're that you're going to say what Peter Burns has made so just the hair so auburn like everything about this season for over just seems bad but that that is cut and pasted from pretty much like the last three seasons for Auburn in retrospect when you go oh. There were obvious weaknesses right A. B.. S.'s like Okay Auburn. Auburn is cest if he had a booster club. I'll fucking pay yeah because this is crew to smaller rock until you we got this to the top ones but we had to pay Gene Chizik rolled up day of hill. He was just on Camp Shelters Clinton. Get everything yeah so quake so Clemson is Auburn with a lake and Auburn's yeah. Oh so thirsty. Here's a lake buddy just diagnose Anna national title in the last five years that too weird the to Auburn. This is the first year Gus Malzahn will have a starting quarterback with any experience but has that mattered. I mean as that mattered at all like we we've gone like Oh man. He hasn't gotten here's made under the desk for this part. Maybe it did like this. Maybe a did had maybe didn't let's try this like the results seemed to be pretty inconclusive anyway. Hey we changed offensive coordinators again but guess what he's not going to be calling plays. That's offensive coordinator Kenny Billingham. He came from Memphis Nez lots of ideas yes ma'am that's a whitsand name. He's twenty eight. Just five never mind that's just I._B._M.. Yeah congratulations on both healthy all Keti Bows Boat Dila Games boy Kenny Deli Ham come down rest mountain. I know what he didn't Alexi Lexi. He can't hide from it now. I Miss Ryan parallel so he still but gusts is still the play caller so again a little bit on the left hand little bit on the right hand Okay Auburn by the way last year couldn't run at all they we didn't have thousand yard rusher for the first time Gus Malzahn Tenure Buffalo Council to come out tonight now. There's a lot of that was starting out some catchphrase. Just keep going. I didn't lucky you so again. I don't know there's a little bit of good gus loved that a bad gus in there will probably break down to a team that sort of disappoints everyone but doesn't do enough to get him fired. Does this seem familiar well. It will do enough to get him fired this year. No I don't thanks yeah. There's no and here's not trying to. I'm not trying to do journalism but I don't think so yeah no that. He's got another year after this especially because again. I can't give you some bad news giving you some good news. They got they might have to have a verse Time Starter Q._B.. They might have to start you know either Bo Knicks Joey gatewood neither of whom have a liquor start experience but the have five experienced offensive linemen and they're probably going to look a little bit better on offense and <hes> they got their two Best D. Lineman back Derrick Brown and Marlon Davidson sue can we can we. Let's assume let's assume that Auburn. This year loses to Bama Georgia and L._S._U.. Let's only put those on the table. I'm GONNA add a fourth loss and you tell me if it gets US fired or not okay we're. I'm GonNa give you a few options Oregon fired or not I I was at how does it happen. I'm not just just owner. Everyone forgets the opener moment. Okay won't matter we'll be lost in a sea of Michael Dyer was down Joe's jokes. He was down Mississippi State who man that's A. That's a clunker. That's a rough one but it won't enough okay based on where it is in the schedule. Now Okay Arkansas. Do that would be that's got that's spicy roots. Okay okay last one two lane yeah yeah that might get him fire. I'm if he wants to two lane look I'm not. I'm not a nice person to myself or others but I'm pulling for you you to lane so that's a home right yeah. I mean correct me if I'm wrong to lane does run in option offense correct now. They changed it after they change it up. They changed that is a shame run something like it. It's the it's dude visit. Though will hall I mean it's still would be embarrassing and that's what matters yeah that would be that would do it now. I can go ahead and took that safely glucose. It ain't happening but that I want I wanna go over the schedule real quick by the way in terms of bad news right because the bad news is that the schedule exists good news is that if you do even sort of okay with it that's your excuse for going eight and four going seven and five and still keep your job because there isn't an obvious alternative because the money works a lot better to fire him next year than it does this year right so here's the schedule you open against Oregon. Okay you probably can beat them because nobody in the PAC twelve has anybody who can stand up on the defensive line quite light you know people from fat states fat states. We make big beautiful fat defensive lineman search that just say at state that block letter fat state. Sorry Oregon doesn't have enough. They don't have enough big butts on the line the really handle <hes> Auburn even Auburn poorly managed see any Auburn game against PAC twelve power where you're going man this other teams colon way better plays. They're seemingly emily better coached and yet they can't get around these fat guys so the open against up against Oregon. They're road games. Are this is wild by the way four out of five weeks on the road from September twenty first to <hes> <hes> coming back to Auburn on eleven three right they go to annum back home for mistake then Florida Arkansas L._S._U.. They don't they don't play an Auburn in the month of October. Just just by how leans for the devil so we're going to be on the road. It isn't a savings birthday yet but you repeat yourself and yeah that's this with with a new quarterback right right with a little baby quarterback. They're trying to nurse along taken four to five on the road to some genuinely hellish places yeah good luck now by the way good news. There's one game in that schedule. I know they'll win by a field goal because even though Anders Carlson only hit fifteen fifteen twenty five attempts last year he's GonNa four four in this one going to hit a sixty five yarder to beat Florida in the swamp market down. Wow you hate yourself. It's great speaking illitch. How do you WanNa talk about ten? Here's situation. We have twenty one minutes and then I have to do. I have to get my performance review. I want the listeners this performance review. How could you do that if I'm also on the August all right anyway I do have Tennessee preview? Prepare real quick all right lot familiar names coming back. You Got Wallace Beeri Alien McMahon Eric Linden Spring Buying Mickey Mickey Rooney. I'm sorry this is a Tennessee football preview. It is a cast list for Clarence Brown famous Tennessee Alum Clarence Brown's nineteen thirty five classic all wilderness this concludes the Tennessee football preview view over to you this great job. Thank you so you're division winner. Excuse me your division. Winner is Texas Texas. They are back. You Okay Godfrey. I'm going to let you pick one of your three teams to preview. I I'll tell you what I'm GonNa do to at once interested time but also <hes> you can't not talk about one without the other and that's the state of Virginia sportwriters don't know shit at at all because <hes> myself included everyone in America said that justed Virginia Tech was one of the most I believe the words I use natural fit higher sleet emit history to everyone did all yeah and then at B._Y._U.. Both intimately familiar with both ends of this deal deal and we really thought it was gonna work and then on the other side of the state at the haughty replace. It doesn't know football at all <hes> we all had a really good chuckle that they took B._Y._U.'s problem off their hands and we thought Oh what a disaster that will be. The should've kept Mike London so now <hes> I if I gave you the preview of one football team you would think for sure it was Virginia Tech because they have a really exciting athletic quarterback who's returning okay they have really good defense specifically their linebackers and their secondary and they have defense back that lead the country and pass breakups but I'm totally the most genteel collection of nut punchers but I'm talking about Virginia and not Virginia Tech. I don't really have anything other Deseo than I have absolutely no idea hey what's going on in Virginia Tech everyone who likes to act like they know things in the sport is completely full of Shit because this was the most slam dunk prediction the world to say that Oh you're GonNa take the guy who scored all those points at Memphis and you're gonNA take bud foster and <hes> they're gonNA compete with like Clinton in Florida State Shit while they are competing with Florida state and Shit Right. This is very humbling to look at the entire Justin Fuente situation other twenty five eleven fifteen. You know they're not horrible but I do think if not for that Kerfuffle at the end of the Commonwealth year last year we would've really hit this home in the offseason because keep in mind they needed Virginia to shit dead in glorious manner in the last minute regulation to get bowl eligible to keep that thing going so they still don't really have a quarterback they feel hot about. They're still playing Ryan Lewis <hes>. I don't know this is this is the exact inverse of of worthies football programs have been for decades. <hes> it is absolutely confounding and also I have to seat at least a part of my time to talk about the fight between Memphis and B._Y._U.. A couple of years it's legally required view. <hes> the good news is if there is a bounceback SC if they're such thing as like a bounceback friendly schedule who buddy Virginia Tech has at this yes they their first four games at Boston College Old Dominion Firm and Duke they play play <hes> they play they have a road game against Miami and against Notre Dame and then to end the year. It's Wake Georgia Tech Pit Virginia like if this is a season where they struggle to get bowl eligible. They should win just based on the schedule schedule. They should be like an eight win team. I WanNa know what that noise was wasn't me I don't know why don't you just put on hand sanitizer. No I only one that heard that it was gus voice fly what are you. You can't Old Dominion doesn't give me a game there and I'm not saying it's a Gimme game and it is interesting because Old Dominion Plays Virginia Tech and Virginia so there is a situation where Old Dominion is the State Champ of researching by the way I liked it. I there's also a chance for L._S._U.. To be the middleman between am in Texas this year but they play both of them so there's the the note passing thing of like hey man good game. Could you give now Nia the reason you can tell Virginia. Virginia's not really southern is that when Old Dominion came up there was a lot of like open warm encouragement of like putting them on their schedule in everyone treating them as an equal allowing situation like this to happen whereas like in Arkansas they don't even recognize. There's a college Jonesboro and we'll never ever fucking play them. Old Dominion was basically like hey come on seven year deal if you Virginia Hey. There's a football team over Newport News. You know where we were all the time. Tim Cook them on equal footing. Let's get stupid. Let's just say Oh. Do you Virginia State Champs. Let's just say I'm fine with it actually having they're coming off one other words over but sh that's not important I was yeah yeah so you're putting Virginia above Virginia Tech in our S and it it's yeah I am confounding school. <hes> let's talk about Iowa state last year second best defense in the big twelve either by yards as per play loud or by S._N._p.. Plus finished third and the conference overall <hes> they did play even though they were a good Iowa state team last year. Look back that L. Lasko game majestic final score thirteen three neither team got got to three hundred yards of offense. All things are power are possible in Alaska except scoring thirty points total <hes>. I think it's important to reflect on two things one exactly how impressive the job Matt Campbell is done at Iowa state in his relatively short tenure the last time before he got there that they went five hundred in conference two thousand five the last time that they had gone above five hundred you have to go all the way back to two thousand last year they went six and three the year before that they went five and four <hes> but importantly they have the opportunity to have potentially the greatest quarterback brock in College Football History Brock Party ten games last year through for twenty two twenty two hundred and fifty yards his competition does. Does anybody know who the yardage leader is for quarterback Brock's the backyard Irwin Brock procured is second. He's ten years behind Brock Berlin. That's Great Brock Brock osweiler a good seven hundred yards behind either of them. <hes> Brock Berlin the current titleholder at five thousand seven hundred fifty two yards so it's not inconceivable achievable that with a really good year from brock purdy he could maybe not passed but certainly get close. He was really good last year. Even though they didn't open up the passing game time he only through like twenty two twenty three passes a game <hes> so yeah I I will this is I'm GonNa continue to fight back against the perception. Iowa state is a lower ranked team. I just it's it's unfair and they have the most predictable scheduling Spencer without looking. What's what's an Iowa state schedule? Luckily I was schedule. Is the Lizzy Iowa early Yup right you host a couple of big dogs at home for potential upsets like I remember Texas is in there <hes> who else is in their Oklahoma the state of believers in their Sherry. You've got all the big twelve teams. That's these even though I mean this year in terms of WHO's your who's GonNa get aged right. Gotcha Gotcha Yeah Texas Texas this year and I believe Oklahoma State is in there as well probably a scary F._C._S. team. They opened the they opening your with. You and I get Gary F._C._S.'s Yup yeah <hes> they host Texas. They host Oklahoma state. They host T._C._U.. Throw in Louisiana Monroe because you gotta throw throw in one more like Damn Hawk yeah. It's it's it's incredibly predictable every year. I have a stay <hes>. I don't think Iowa state is now. <hes> I think I was thinking when our division I'm not sure yet okay. Can I just want one. I'm a little thing they lose. They lose a key Butler who was like the best one on one wide receiver in college football as they also they also lose David Montgomery so yeah but there was some really good skill players change happens. It's fine. It's fine Kaffa. Give us your thirteen okay. We're GONNA skip all the bullshit. You know what we could make do with Kingsbury thing for a second with U._S.. Here's what I'm GONNA do. I want you to stop me when so you can. I sure tell me that you U._S._C. will not lose a football game. WE'RE GONNA start August thirty. I I want you to stop me when you say absolutely not. U._S._C. WON'T LOSE THAT FOOTBALL GAME August thirty first Fresno State at home September seventh at the Home Stanford September Fourteenth Act the way you. This is the mountain climber game. That's September twentieth at Home Against Utah September twenty eight at Washington from October twelfth at Notre Dame. We're now halfway through the season and we're home against Arizona Fair Sir. I actually don't feel great about that because there's an entire possibility that if they have like either got beat up or emotionally destroyed by the right the first part of the schedule that they'll just drop a major turn against serious or interim or I just want to posit this for a second interim head coach Graham Herald loses a shootout against his mentor just turned up ice chips. What's the what's next after Arizona? I would like to point out that I gave you completely plausible win six okay I did not include the following okay home against U._C._l._A. At cal and Oregon so when you go through this live when you go through the schedule at you you you put a firm Green checkmark next to next to these games you might could do that three or four times. We got ourselves the makings this is awful. There's a lot of bad this is for whom this is horrific and end the difference honestly like we I I hate playing into this shit so much like the whole is the difference between the S._e._C.. In the PAC twelve everyone in that conference is sort of standing around hands on hips opposing coaches just saying. Why are you this bad like in the S._e._C. IF L._S._U.? Or Alabama Georgia border suddenly fall apart like it's you know it's the drastic park roll like they would still be alive when the other programs in fan bases. Would we begin to eat them whereas in the PAC twelve there is this sort of dispassionate like anger that U._S._C. has not picked up the flag in rant and it's not going to happen this year they are going to be worse and there's it's almost no way you can argue against that and last year was bad by by the way they went five and seven which they were below five hundred for the first time since <hes> Paul Hackett so didn't they didn't just go five seven. It's that they they they started the air fine they they lost on the road to Stanford. They lost to an being a good Texas team but they beat Wazoo and they beat a ranked Colorado. That's the first half theor the blast six games of the year. They have exactly one win and it's against Oregon Oregon Oregon State. They lost Arizona State. They lost to Utah badly. They got destroyed by UTAH. They lost a cow at home. They lost U._C._L._A.. For the first time in what felt like forever ever. I don't know if it actually was that long so whatever Utah was doing like the giddy looter sprint through the ruins of row I Kurds they could do whatever they wanted to and and then they hung with Notre Dame but they sell lost matter so they end here there last six games one in five and it's only the Oregon state game that kept it from being no one six run like the funniest thing about the schedule L. Narrative. We in my head is losing a point again to cal and back to back years just like if CALC and beaten twelve eleven they're good. They're like legitimately good twelve eleven. That's what I WANNA see. Twelve eleven legitimately good cow has lap them by just playing defense they only half of football will wilma stanton see a problem with that <hes> Godfrey amongst our teams whereas U._S._C. bottom half. I'll put the tech over fuck it okay all right okay. I'm going to save my last school. I'm going to record a separate thing for it so I don't actually mess make quarterly review really proud of myself today <hes> so Arizona State we'll get to you later. I'll add something to this episode Boston College Boston. College is the easiest team to preview because in five of Stephen Nausea six seasons they've ended the year with seven wins and it doesn't matter what that season looks like they've had extremely easy schedules. They've had extremely difficult schedules. They've won bowl games. They've lost ballgames. They have missed out on ballgames entirely. They've been predicted to be good. They've been predicted to be bad. They've had upset wins. They've gotten upset doesn't matter they're GONNA get to seven games and that's they're going to get to seven wins and that's that's like the only only relevant part of this in the slightest. <hes> the the these are the seven wins that are going to happen. They're going to get sex regular season wins and they're going to get one ballgame Richmond. Kansas Rutgers Louisville Syracuse accused going out on a limb there don't feel great about it but I think like maybe something stupid happens and they win that game and pit and then though when a ballgame what I really want to do with my remaining time is play quick pointless game of who is older or younger than Steve Adagio Patio okay okay. Let's start with Gary. Patterson is Gary Patterson older or younger than Steve Adagio older younger. He is younger by year Brian Kelly older or younger steve dossier younger older younger younger by three years. I should stop this. Andy Reid older or younger than Stephen Osceola younger younger. I believe I'll go younger. He's older only very slightly all right this is this is maybe the hardest one because he's barely whom I feel older than Studio Oakland soon to be Las Vegas raiders owner Mark Davis older or younger than Stevedore the same birthday. I'M GONNA go older switched at birth in the hostile WANNA go older mark. Davis is in fact older. Although wikipedia is not sure exactly how old they say on his face as at least when I checked the today he's either sixty three or sixty four Steve Dot C._o.. Only sick Steve Adagio looks great for sixty by the way you can still noman you could still break cinderblock over that firstly polished head. I added <unk> pulled that like he paid. If you're having a just doesn't matter what kind of bigger please look at the photo that was selected for Mark Davis Zwicky side profile shot to that's really shows off that haircut remember the rich the ranch because they're the most talented off security at with good. That's a that's a bathrobe. 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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tim Kukjian (10-08-18)

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 2 - Tim Kukjian (10-08-18)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas, there is more where that came from. Click back for new episodes all week log. This is firefighter Raphael poor yet for firehouse subs. Introducing the new firehouse pub stakes up with savory steak, crispy fried onions, and are rich Belgian beer cheese sauce on tap for a limited time or yours at firehouse subs dot com. Today, remember a portion of every sub you buy helps provide lifesaving equipment for I responded firehouse subs. Enjoy more subs, save more lives, limited time, only plus tax participating locations. Firehouse subs don't even minimum one billion dollars in two thousand eighteen firehouse subs, public safety foundation by donating point, one, three percent every purchase broadcasting from their Mercedes men can. I think Aaron judge make everybody else around him a lot better. This is Dan, Patrick hope had a great weekend our to the program more of your phone calls best and worst to the weekend, Tim kurkin from the mothership. We'll talk about the baseball that happened over the weekend and baseball later on today. And tonight. Astros Indians dodgers Braves, socks, Yang's, and then pop it all on with the Redskins and the saints. Eight, seven, seven, three DP show our Twitter handle at DP show. The glove has a poll question. I believe from the first hour. Why put up just as a placeholder was the post fight may lay good or bad for the UFC sixty five percents a good so far. But we also have some of our famous Monday morning dude poll option. Okay. As in starting with dude, what are you doing? Let's start with the Oklahoma defense. Oh boy. Owed l. Beckham for making critical comments about team, Blake Bortles for being bad, Blake chiefs, and Mason Crosby obviously missing five field goals for the Packers. Jason Garrett not going for two fourth down the hobby camp and Habib for jumping the octagon. And I actually per our pre show conversation would put the Shawn Watson out there for just running around too much dude. What are you doing. Yeah, you're watching him get hit. And you know, this is such a sport of attrition like you just there's only so many hits you can take before you're going to be sitting on the sidelines or you're going to be in a hospital bed. And this is a guy just he's coming off a CEO. You got to protect yourself because we know who's backing you up. You have to stay in the lineup. Self-preservation is so important for these quarterbacks and I don't care how big you are. It's going to hurt somebody's eventually going to hurt you. Somebody's gonna eventually gonna hit you and you're going to not be ready for it. Cam Newton still gets it gets hit hard, and there'll be a day when he probably doesn't get up or it gets up and you know he's limping off the field. You saw that, you know we, we've seen that through history and even though they're trying to protect the quarterback, you have to help protect yourself a little bit here. And that's what Shawn Watson has. Got understand. Because if you don't, you're not gonna make it through sixteen games. Mclovin. Would you say the same thing about Carson Wentz. Andrew, lock? Yes. All of them. Carson Wentz had had major knee surgery, nine to twelve months recovery. I understand if it's a playoff game, I understand it. But even then I, the risk and the reward, the have to weigh that out. And I, I wanna know if you're going to be there long term. For me, the reason why there are certain there's a handful of quarterbacks who played as long as they've played is because they have self preservation, and that's Brady and Brees, even Philip rivers. Although rivers got popped yesterday, but they're going to be moments when you get hit, don't don't open yourself up to getting hit. The referees are going to protect you. So use that to your advantage and make sure that you don't put yourself in harm's way. You don't get any style points for going out and took on that linebacker, but it's going to fire up our team. I go back to Jimmy Garoppolo. What are you doing to get one more yard in September, and then you lower your right shoulder, you're throwing shoulder into the defender. So you compound already a stupid mistake by not going out of bounds, and then you could have injured your shoulder. You have to. If we're going to teach these defensive players, we're going to reprogram on them on how to tackle. I have to reprogram some quarterback. You can't do what you did in college. You're just not going to be able to be around into Shawn Watson last night here. Just Shawn Watson, talking about self preservation or maybe lack thereof. Do as best for the team. And I know sometimes for the best for the team as pretend to myself. But no, are we down at the goal Ryan? You know, I'm trying to get an end zone. That's my mentality. So regardless of what I gotta do three dues like it was tonight. And most of the times I'm trying try to find my ass off to get in the zone, and that's what I'm gonna, tally, whatever it takes. I'm Bill to take those hits. No, you're not. No. We'll bring that back in six weeks when he's not playing, he lost half of his rookie season is a guy more known for his injury problems. And that's the exact opposite of someone built to take those and you're not helping your team. Like that mentality. Sounds great. I'm a fight my ass off to get in the goal. You know, getting the ends on every time. It sounds awesome. It's a great sound bite, but in reality, I think almost everybody on the team is like, do what the hell you doing I, but you have to imagine that way anyway, cowboy fan. So I feel your pain today. You should have gone forward. Fourth in one and yes, I have the benefit of knowing the end result, but I. I got that line in that running back, I have to be able to get a yard, and I got a quarterback who can do the quarterback, sneak. And I realized the coal and the result, two different things, but I would have I would have gone for it there. I want to win play to win. You need a win. They played not to lose, and that's the big difference there. Jerry Jones who you know, he just can't stay away from a microphone. Says, I'm not going to second guess you know the the call and then he proceeded to second guess the call say, we, you know, we should've risked that that's called second guessing it. Yes, he's, it'd be constantly undermined in public by your owner. It must be just infuriating. I don't even know if he knows that he's doing it. Remember when he was trying to tell his audience in Dallas that the Cowboys offense is like the Rams and I went, no, it's not. No, no. It's not not even close. I got a brilliant offense in mind in Sean McVeigh. As a quarterback whisper, and I've got a whole lot more weapon. I've got wide receivers. You don't have that in Dallas, but for him to still think that he has that you don't. You chose to take a linebacker instead of a wide receiver, and I get it because Sean Lee is injury prone, but you don't have a go-to wide receiver here and even Zico Elliott. He didn't have a good night, but I have to believe that office at member that offense of line. No, it's been banged up. I gotta get a yard, right to carries. Can I get one yard. I got a stat of the day, and it's kind of a surprising stat of the day has to do with Patrick Mahomes Seton. In the first three games. Patrick Mahomes threw thirteen touchdowns no interceptions in the past two games, he's thrown one touchdown pass and throwing two interceptions his quarterback rating for weeks. One through three was one thirty. One. The past two weeks is quarterback rating is seventy five. But you won those games. Nobody's going to talk about that. But Patrick Mahomes he did have rushing touchdown, but the last two weeks is quarterback rating. If you follow such numbers is seventy five. Let's from trae. Daniel question. Can you fire a kicker after he kicks game winner, Greg, Joseph for the Browns Mr. extra point missed wide left. At the end of the fourth finally hit the ugliest game winner in overtime. What should the Browns to with their kicking troubles this season? I'm gonna go back to what I'm telling him Packer fans today. Yeah, you don't want Mason Crosby, but who are you bringing in. Mason Crosby is one of the better kickers. Greg, Joseph is not, but who who are the Browns going to bring in. Yeah, we got to get rid of our kicker. Okay. You start to bring somebody in. Let's see. This is a. Tweet. Thank you, Dan, for green with the rest of the Cowboys fans, Jason Garrett. You have thirty minutes to collect your things before security. Does it for you? I don't know if it's that drastic because if Jerry was going to replace Jason, would've done a long time ago, Wednesday night, it's hockey where the stars come out to play Stanley Cup, final rematch, Vegas, Golden Knights. Taking on the Washington Capitals, Wednesday, eight eastern on NBC. Yeah. We talked a little bit about Ghana McGregor and Habib that fight and in the post fight will dive into a little bit deeper in an hour aerial hell want covers the sport will join us. Also, Reggie Miller reg making a rare appearance prior to the start of the NBA season. That's great. He had some things to say about the post fight. He said, reminded him of the malice of the panels with Ron r. tests there think the mouse at bounces worse than that. I don't think you go to an NBA game. Thinking of fight could break out in a stand. I think there is the small possibility in MA that something could happen that you hadn't seen before. Eight, seven, seven, three DP show Email address DP Dan, Patrick dot com. Get your phone calls coming up by the way our stats of the day are brought to you by continental tire, no matter what you drive, where you drive, how you drive. They have a tire for you. The great folks at continental tire dot com. So baseball today, Astros Indians dodgers Braves, SOX Yankees. Brewers advanced to the national championship series, though. Wait the winner of the dodgers and the Braves to Scott Michigan. Hey, Scott, what do you have for me today? Hey, scott. Five we'll call it one sixty five. Let's see. Best to the weekend is a try factor. First off Detroit. Lions pulled off the hat trick against Green Bay, even with Aaron Rodgers at the helm that was nice to see university of Michigan doubled up on Maryland, moved up in the polls, Michigan state lost to northwestern out of twenty five. And I would have to say the worst of the weekend would have to be a rate. As do you think Derek Carr is going to try to would work try to work out a trade at the end of the season to get outta there? Or do you think the allure of Vegas is gonna make him want to, you know, work out? I don't think I don't think he's going to one out. I think it'll be Jon Gruden wants him out. Thank you Scott. But I don't know why people expect out of the raiders. I don't expect anything out of the raiders. I mean, I thought they got six winds, it'd be what I expect out of the raiders. This is this a two year process to go to Vegas. I didn't see them if they thought that they were going to challenge. They would have kept colo- MAC, that's really what it comes down to, and the bears feel like they're ready to take the next step in challenge. That's why they went and got Coloma planet simple. You got Trubisky on a low contract right now. You've spent all the money on car. If you had Trubisky is your quarterback in Oakland. You might have kept colo- MAC, if you had that contract, you might have kept to maybe. But I mean, we won't know, don't you get the feeling that John gruden's gonna take a quarterback in the first round of the draft in two thousand. I would mean in this next drafty takes a quarterback in the first round yet because I don't. I don't know. That's another way to buy yourself for years draft, a young guy out of wherever state and yeah, but he dare cars trade value, I would guess does, but I don't know of. I don't know if he's resigned to the fact that he's not his franchise quarterback because I think it's I felt like he took the job because he had a franchise quarterback. I was told that John was waiting for the job now turned out to be the raiders and of course one hundred million dollars, but he needed a franchise quarterback because you you're lost. If you don't have that quarterback. And I think that that was part of the reasoning behind John. He was gonna jump that one hundred billion dollars one more phone call. We'll take a break Travis in Ohio. Hi, Travis. DP is maybe the best in the worst for you. Best of the weekend, obviously them brownies pulling out that w against Baltimore, worse of the weekend is still the terrible officiating us Browns fans have had to deal with in order to get that w. keep your head up. You know what I loved about Baker Mayfield yesterday. It's not always pretty, and it's not going to be pretty with the Browns, but man, he, he's not afraid and he's competitive. I, there's energy there. Like when you go into the huddle, it just feels like, you know, there's this Connecticut energy that he's like, we're going to do something here. We're gonna get something and look. They're kicking field goals there, but you know, the Browns defense going to keep them in games. Every game Cleveland's played. It's close. But you're winning a couple of games and and there's a little bit of, you know, there's something happened in there. Really is now, it's not just Baker Mayfield, but I think when you have a leader when you when the defense can look at the offense and go, okay, you know, get some points force because that defense is really good, and we'll keep them in a lot of games this year. More phone calls coming up for the weekend will give you hours. And once again will dive into the fight with McGregor and he'll be a little bit later on aerial Helwan wanna covers the sport as well as anybody and Reggie Miller also some thoughts on it as well. That'll be coming up next. Our Tim Kirch in in the on deck circle and we'll talk some playoff baseball with him. Eight, seven, seven, three DP show Email address DP Dan, Patrick dot com. 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You know that that's why you know Dana white talks out of both sides of his mouth here. He's a necessary evil for the sport. Yes. Mclovin had a problem though. He's getting older, you know, don't they need a pipeline? Yeah, you would think. You know that you, you milk somebody as long as you can and you know, Conor McGregor coming back. I, I wonder how long he's going to if he's making a couple of hundred million here. Now I come much longer. Does he do it and then does he do something different? Does he get into wrestling? Does he get into movies? Does he does it become an action hero? That's the, you know, the a zone, Claude, van Damme kinda guy. I don't know. He's got a lot of charisma. I just wonder how much longer he continues to fight. Yeah, he's thirty. I don't know. I don't know what considered old. I don't know what's considered old, the sport. I mean, I, you know, look like chocolate l. I think was coming back and they've Randy couture these guys fighting till their mid forties. It feels like. Tito Ortiz. How about this guy? Habib is a star. I don't know. I don't. I mean, it got a lot of name recognition, but as exciting. He's like a wrestler clinical. It just feels like. He's just a great wrestler and once Khanna Gregor I thought the con- McGregor would be a better boxer because he had been training as a better boxer, but you know you're too in tune your last four fights. And once he went to the the ground, I just thought he has no chance here. He's not a better wrestler than this guy, but I don't know how much more you can get, you know, looks like you know Dana white. I'm like, you know, can you can squeeze out another rematch here. You know, we saw the, I didn't think it was a great fight and think of as interesting. That's another thing normally he's interesting wouldn't. This is sort of like employed Mayweather. I didn't think that was interesting at all. How about for the preliminary between the new, the Conor McGregor. Next, the rematch one of each of their cornermen have to fight in the pulmonary wanna Connors guys want to abuse fight. They wanted to fight cool. Strap them up and do a real fight, and I'm not even joking about this one get one corn amount of each that represents a similar way class and put them out there. Well, I was gonna, say, has to be sanctioned, but then I'm sure Dan alike it somehow saying things in sanction. It's like sanctioning, John sina, fight or something, and we got a sanction. Gets more phone calls coming up best and worst of the weekend, I watched a lot of baseball. I watch the aunties and the Red Sox curious about that thought the Yankees were gonna win the series still feel that way. You know, the five game series, you know, David price in as much as we bang on Clayton Kershaw joining anything in the postseason. But then we look at Kershaw differently when the great pitchers of all time. David price. A lot of money, and I'd have no confidence in him not. Sale look great. There's a lot of fun. Brewers brewers put away the Rockies and watching the dodgers, you know, AKU hits grand slam, and he was told by reporter after the game that, hey, you know, you're the youngest to do that in a playoff game since Mickey Mantle, and he wasn't sure he didn't know who Mickey Mantle was, but that's okay. That's all right. Tim, Kirk Shon. He'll be joining call ravage the rest of the ESPN baseball tonight teen. They returned to regular nightly addition throughout the baseball postseason and Tim Kirch in joining us from the merge mothership. Hi, TIMMY. How are you. I'm great. Dan, how you doing? I'm doing okay. Oh, where are you going to be watching the games today? Well, I'm gonna be in studio today. Truth be told I'd rather be at a game, but when you're in studio, you get to watch every pitch thrown of every game, which I will do today, and therefore I will least have a working knowledge of what's going on in all the series. When I get to watch games on TV, I'll be sitting next to Edward operas which is a treat. So it's the second best thing to actually being at one of the game, the brewers put away the Rockies are we are, we rooting for the brewers because it's new and kind of a neat two story, or should we be looking at the brewers as they are the best team in the National League? Or maybe it's both. It's a little of both. I'm not sure they're the best. Even the National League is I still need to see what the dodgers are going to do from here. I still think the dodgers have the most talented roster, but there there's nothing cute about the brewers. Dan, they are relentless. Their bullpen is stunningly good. One eighty ninety area since the start of September. That's almost a run lower than any other team in the major league. They bring wave after wave of hard throwing relievers out of the bullpen. They can hit the ball out of the ballpark. They have a great infield defensive won eleven games at a row. They are really good right now, but that dodger team is really good also. And I think we're going to get and LCS where the two best teams in the league or playing which is all we can ever ask. But you get these teams in disputes like there's fate. I don't wanna say destiny, but it feels like the brewers have that going this year. Yeah, I agree with you, Dan. I saw them quite a bit at the end of the season. I did their game one sixty three against the cubs, and I don't care how corny this sounds. There's something special going on there and maybe this sounds ridiculous. Maybe it's the manager. Maybe it's Craig counsel. Mark grace. Once he went to Notre Dame Margrave, what's described him as Rudy with talent played on two championship teams in his career, he understands the job of managing. He's a Bill walkie guy, managing the walkie brewers. He told me that four years ago, Hank Aaron was making a speech on stage in Milwaukee, and he called Craig counsel who was working for the club, but not as the manager, Craig, you have to come up here. So Craig counsel that I can't go up there you're, you're hanging. I came to you, you're Hank, Aaron, I'm Craig counsel. And then Hank Aaron started asking him questions told me, oh my gosh. Hear me questions about baseball possible. So that's who were dealing with as the manager and that kind of communication and that kind of every day man that he is, I think, really aids in how well this team is doing. Clayton Kershaw said he had nothing to prove to have to prove anything to anybody. I felt like he still maybe to something to prove to himself, whether he'd admit to it or not. He was brilliant in his last outing, but those Clayton Kershaw have something to prove when it comes to the postseason. Well, I really don't think so. Dan, I, that narrative is over however, we know how this works. You have to win the World Series. You have to win big game to help win the World Series before you're not just going to be anointed as a good postseason player. But as one of the greatest pitchers of all time, you have to do something in October and help your team win the World Series. Is that fair? Of course, it's not, but that's start the other night. Was brilliant. I think he's got more of that in him and I think he needs just to have that one seminal moment where you know he pitches a great game and the dodgers go on to win the World Series, which is is a possibility this year. Houston's in. I don't know if they're underdogs. They're just under appreciated. And here they're leading Cleveland to, oh, and game three today in Cleveland, assess this Astros team this year as opposed to last year's team? Well, it's potentially even better because they have Garrett Cole who just had a twelve strikeout no walking. He was in a gay. He was bright, ever had a thirteen strikeout no walk game and coal. Just put up the second best. One of those. It was ridiculous how good he was, and he's added to the team this year. I just worry that offensively they're not the team. They were last year. Carlos Correa has bad back. He hasn't been the same player, but that little Alex bregman guy has become clear on the team. Danny in the postseason this five foot, ten inch. Third baseman has two homers off a Chris sale. One off Kershaw one off kenley Jansen one off. Trevor Bauer and one off Corey kluber in the post. Alone when the game gets the biggest, when the situation gets the biggest, that's when that little guy is at his best and man has been great, and I think he adds a little extra to that Astro team going into more games. You're the postseason because he's even better than he was at this time. Last year. Janki is Red Sox tonight at Yankee Stadium advantages. Well, I gotta think it's the Yankees because their home and they've got Louis Severino who's a nineteen game winner and is starting to find the great stuff that he had the first three months of the season. And I think more than anything they're starting to hit on that Yankee team. Damn, we've been over this before one through nine. Please tell me team that could beat you with the Homer ball like this team can. It's great as home run hitting team in baseball history, and now here, Sanchez, catchers that such a miserable year is really starting to swing it. So I think that gives the advantage to the. The AKIs, but anyone who thinks, oh, the Red Sox are big, big trouble hasn't watched the Red Sox all year. This is going to be great series when I just think it's destined to go five games. Yeah, the pitching with the Red Sox, you know sale. We weren't sure about because he loses velocity this time of the year. You know, David price is really the conundrum for this team. Yeah, he's right. He's a conundrum for all of us, Dan. This makes absolutely no sense. He was so good for about two and a half months to start the second half that you just thought he was a given going into the playoffs. And yet the Yankees clearly have is number. He has terrible trouble at Yankee Stadium, and now they're gonna have to figure out how to beat the Yankees with David price still in the rotation. He's gonna have to pitch again or maybe they'll just use them out of the bullpen. I don't know, but that has to get fixed if they're going to get past the Yankees. Great stuff is always tomb till coral and everybody else said, what? Oh, that we set alot and have fun today. Okay. Dan tech so much. See that's Tim Kirch in baseball analyst. That's a guy who loves his sport, loves his job. It's really, really, really rare, and I was only there for eighteen years. So. I, I don't remember Tim where he would ever negative about his. He was always trying to find the positive about his sport and. It's a credit to him. He's a great reporter, but he'd he embraces this sport. Any add something to it. He always gives you, you know, details. And when he starts getting all excited and get that voice up a little bit higher, it's the best Hank Aaron said. Next, I think on Craig counsel. He's a treat best and worst of the weekend. How about ours? Fritzy I'll start with you best in worse than the weekend. I'm going college football with both best Texas, Oklahoma, Red River showdown lived up to the highpoints. Again, ninety three total points scored most in the history of the matchup exciting from start to finish. And then we asked the question is Texas back worst of the weekend, Florida state blowing a twenty point lead in Miami first time, the Seminoles lost at the hurricanes since two thousand four in the defensive coordinator for Oklahoma, Mike stoops got fired and give up what forty eight points. What if what if Oklahoma won that game fifty one forty, eight to stoop still does he does? He get fired in a win. Maybe mclovin best. And worst. I'm gonna go the opposite for the defense from both Texas and Oklahoma. I, I'd never see every cliche about big. Twelve defense was proved in that game. It was unbelievable. Screen pass was seventy are play. Every time best is the artists banks. He, I think we all know the story. So I if I still see here he his painting was auctioned for one point, three million dollars. It's how the bees, and then he raked it automatically shred. So shred right after the purchase a rock in front of people. So they bid on this. I think it was one point, four million it went for and then all of a sudden the painting starts moving and he had build a shredder into the frame. It's so great and on Instagram on his Instagram. He showed how he did it saw the planning. Now, the ironic part so that I was going to do the same, the Andrews at your worst. That was my best. Oh, that was your best. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. Good. No, I. I knew the whole time I was stealing from Seton, here's my question. Are you proud if you bought that? I'm psyched if I, I want point three million, I was told watch. It'll be worth more money because of what happened. So my best of the weekend was gonna be banks shredding own artwork. My worst of the weekend is that it backfired totally. And now it's worth double what it or it. So when it sold for the one point, four million that was triple what they thought it would get. And now it's already doubled from that just because it's the shredded one that is the world is fascinating. Well, he likes to thumb his nose at people. I mean, banks, she if you if we don't know who he is, but there's a documentary and it's it's so great of what Bank sees done and all these pieces of work throughout the world. Any loves to thumb his nose at the art world. When we when I was in Amsterdam, they have a Bank see museum there that he, they're very upfront that he does not support the this museum and he'd none of this money goes to him like he's not in which could be a front to, but it's all done without his permission, but it is fascinating to look at the the work that he's done and sort of the message the messaging behind all of it is amazing. Yep. I think this thing is a big big scam. I think a bunch of group of artists came up with a fake name of a fake person. They're trying to do John Paul Basquiat or thirty years later, and I don't believe it in any way was a person. I know I know, but I'm what I'm saying is they're trying to create something fo- I don't believe it's a real person. I think it's a collaboration of three or four people who created a fictitious person that can never be found if there's no real person, you can never find this person interview 'em. I'll bet you ten years from now. A story comes out that this was four or five. Artists who said, let's do something where you can really make something big, make some money off it. It's working take the opposite because they do our share about a person banks shower shame. Yeah, maybe banks, you can create the shower of shame for and even still even if there is no Bank. See, it's still awesome. Yeah. Then those people who created it are fantastic and the artwork is super cool. It's sort of like graffiti ish. Either way. The story is great then but banks, he would do stuff where he would do street art and nobody knew that it was banks, and then he would sell it for like ten dollars and it would be worth one hundred thousand dollars, but he just wanted to know if somebody would buy this art on the street, not knowing it's a banks because soon as you say, it's the banks, then they go a million dollars and and so these people bought these street pieces of art for like twenty bucks and they're worth hundreds of thousands of dollars paulie best. And worst of the week I got to best university Colorado buffaloes or five. And when was the last time that happens? Seems like it's been awhile for Colorado football. They have tough schedule the rest of the way, but that was a fun football program to watch back in the day and same thing, university of Texas beats Oklahoma. But the best story of that game is they've got this young star wide receiver. He's six foot four to twenty two freshman wide receiver. His name is lil- Jordan Humphry like little Jordan Humphry. Lil Jordan Lil apostrophe Jordan Humphrey, and he's not Lil and the name comes from his mom wanted to name him Michael, Michael Jordan. But she went with little Jordan. So his actual name on his birthday ticket is little Jordan Humphrey, and he's awesome more phone calls best and worst of the weekend and in a pretty incredible stat about the person who should be the leading candidate for the Heisman Trophy. That's right after this, everybody's got it to do this. I get one from my wife drop off the dry cleaning, pick-up some milk, figure out something to get out of the house so I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing you don't have to drop off or pick up. Anything all you have to do is go to Geico dot com. And fifteen minutes. You could be saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance. The like extra money in your pocket. 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Ben Hostetler three best of the weekend. Lions win, Kenny Golic as brutal stiff arm on. Clinton Dix and the worst Sean Watson's foolishness. Getting hit 'em you ward two thousand seven the best brewers getting the sweep of the Rockies getting some respect in the national media and the worst Packers looking like garbage in Crosby, missing five kicks or if your phone calls invest and worst of the weekend coming up. Here's some numbers for you know, Nick Sabin was railing against the student body. You gotta show up, you gotta support, you know? Well, Alabama has been ahead by twenty eight forty forty two eighteen forty nine and twenty seven in their last six games at halftime. So once again, Nick Saban Nick, you're the problem. Your teams are so good that people are bored by this. Now they expect this. Twenty eight forty forty two eighteen forty nine and twenty seven in the last six games this year. Now there's a lottery for tickets. So if you get a bad game, you're like, okay, how long are we going to stay? Go to the tailgate, maybe go for the first half. And also with two tongue of Iowa. If he wins the Heisman, he'll he'll win by playing half of their games because he's extremely efficient, and he should be the leading candidate for the Heisman Trophy. It doesn't mean he's going to win it, but you have Jalen hurts. You know, maybe Nick Sabin was being honest with hurts and saying, you're gonna play because he realized that too is going to play first half and you can play the second half and feels like that sort of plan out that way. But with Alabama, blowing people out. Two is going to put up great numbers, but they're going to be first half numbers. Yes, mclovin see who weighed in on the fray, Tim Tibo on ESPN called Alabama fans entitled and said, your daddy's buying you, these tickets, you better show up. It sounds like a messy. Some old wounds still remain. Yeah. They they are a little bit entitled, but this they have to have some close games at some point, right. This can't continue. I mean, I know they've LSU in Auburn. Yeah, but I don't even know Auburn lost again. So I don't. I don't know if we look at Auburn and go, I know you're supposed to throw out the records when those two schools get together. Yes, for going to the stadium, November seventeenth, watched him win ninety two to against the citadel. You know, there's also some some questionable schools on their schedules. Well, they got some tough one. I don't know if Saturday November seventeenth. That's I don't think coach statement can expect a big packed house for them. Yeah. What Tibo had to say. I think the fans are getting so entitled there at Alabama's specifically, the students listen is student. You've done nothing to win all those titles. Okay. You spend a little bit of your daddy's money to show up at the game and go to school there. You say you're the best fans in college football where you need to show up who said they're the best friends in college? Football. I mean, are they the most intense? Are you the most intensive? You don't show up or you're apathetic. You're entitled. I don't know. Yeah, mclovin. Yeah. Are they the best fit your? They're being criticized by your coach. Now, Tim Tibo I can't think of a one that jumps out is more loyal Elias state LSU. I have a dilemma. It's not a dilemma, but I'm going to be in Ohio thanksgiving weekend saucy well, Ohio State Michigan. I believe in Columbus, and that's on Saturday. So I was thinking it's a noon start become a nice to see everybody for two days, and then they'd get tired of me and I could slip up to see the buckeyes against Michigan. Okay. What's what's problem? You did your time couple days at the house and don't always work that way. You know, doesn't always. I just don't. I was thinking of maybe like Saturday morning going out for coffee, and then just driving an hour and a half to Columbus and then state a few hours watching the game, and then come back with coffee. I don't know. I've been to college football games you. I don't know if you're gonna get a lot of rested that Ohio State Michigan people know you're there. I know they're gonna come up to you as at the horseshoe. Oh, I know. But I don't like to see how state Michigan again, you have to maybe go incognito to a game like that for you. Yeah. Yeah, maybe I'll go dressed is curb street. He go. Yeah, so I don't know. I was thinking about that. Maybe I. Maybe member Gregg Allman was married to share, and he said he was going out to get smokes, and then he never came back. You know, maybe I just do that. I look, I'm gonna go out. I'll get coffee front, you know, take take all the orders. Everybody who tell me what you guys want. And then it's about an hour and a half for me to get to where I grew up to Columbus. Are you? Would you wear fake blue contacts Kirby. Wow. What wait? Wait. Wait, what? Why are you shot. Those are real. What if you had it like a sideline pass, then you don't get hassled. You can get there on the twenty yard line, chop it up with Eddie, George and guys like that. Surely Georgia's on the sideline of if Michigan's sudden takes a lead, you just saunter ODA this. I can't do that before, but not do it at Ohio State with Michigan. I couldn't do that. You in both Cabrera out. I couldn't do that. Again, I'm thinking about that sideline pass. That's the way to go. Yeah. But then you know, my son's gonna wanna go like already passing. It calls me. Game two Red Sox Yankees. He said, hey, I'm at the game. Let me know if you see me. I go. What are you? Where are you? Because I'm on the monster. I said, of course you are. Of course, you are. Man. When I come back, I wanna be my son. I do say where where are you on the monster? Okay. Feel I said, I'll look for you as Aaron. Judge is home. Run blows by. Jacob, Wisconsin. They Jake. What did he? Yeah, a little good little bad for you. This weekend. We didn't even care about the Packer game for well over that by the time, the started really forget this. There's a bar, the closest bar to Coors field home plate entrance is called swankies. It's a brew Packer bar packed to the gills with people. You had to wait outside to get in one person, one person. So I'm next one in, you know, send some guys looking at really weird. They walk in like you, Jake. Good for you. Good for you even care about the Packers. No team Mason. I always used to being on my my bad list, but I didn't even care. Keep them on the team. Like you said, there's no other kickers. Everybody wants to cut kickers. And I always say, who you replay, there's a reason why these guys are employed. There's nobody else to employ so, but you're, you're going to be traveling with the brewers. Probably take off the and I'll see us and save the money up the world. So that's my, that's my plan. But so I got a question for you, so I flew out five. Oh five in the morning, super tight. I didn't even go to bed the night. Prior is just stayed up drinking and went on my flight. So then when I get to the flight assigned seating, right, we'll twenty six f window seat and as I'm getting there, I'm like one of the west persons on the plane to get to my seat and there's a little six year old girl sitting in my seat. So was it wrong be the kicker or should I have let her. Where were the parents. In middle c and then twenty six ABC with the other kids. I eighty c e and I had Ethel now you should've taken the window seat because you're going to sleep in instead of, you know, being in the middle or you know where people can't get in and out that you were. I think you were doing people at service by, but taking the window and crashing. Nice now I don't feel like such jerk. No, that's fritzy who usually does stuff like that, but thank you, Jack, I'm so selfish. You are so so so Richie kind of quiet today. The Broncos loosened. All right. Over when move on. We in the Rams next two and four four game losing streak. Reggie Miller coming up next hour and aerial hill. Wani talk about fight over the weekend. Final hour coming up. Everyone. It's Ron and Kelly Nash from MLB network here with our new show baseball and chill exclusively on podcast, one sports net each week as we cover all of the action on and off the diamond with player interviews and in-depth storyline analysis of what's happening in major league baseball. Whacks with us Tuesday on baseball and chill right here on podcast, one download and subscribe to new episodes exclusively on apple podcasts, podcast, one dot com. And the podcast one app also rate us Eva speed back. 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College Football Week 11 Recap

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College Football Week 11 Recap

"The. Welcome to the solid. Verbal. For me. On forty. I've heard so many players they why wanna be happy you want to be happy for day. Eight estate won't. Untie? Walking back to Sullivan, boys, girls money is tie Hildebrandt. Joining the as always over there and beautiful New York City. Dan, Rubenstein, sir, sir. How are you? Like, I always state and Baylor tie. I am ready for battle. Yeah. I am ready to drop, emotional, and spiritual and intellectual fists to make sure we treat week eleven like the sangria Saturday that it was at times sin, Greece. I have to tell you. I actually took a little bit of flack for that for saying, well, as you know pointed out on this show. Solid mother-in-law listens to the show and pointed out last night, while we were out to dinner at a sports bar watching the games, of course, pointed out that on the Wednesday show. I mentioned that the solid wife. Kate probably likes sangria, and I said probably a hedge because I didn't actually no I can't remember ever responsibility to know every single thing. Everybody likes. Well, apparently does not and was a bit taken aback that I would think that she I don't know. Okay. So for the record if you're listening. Kate. I have now fully educated in the way on the rea-. She is out on the grill. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay. She likes wine but out on adding cold fruit chopped up into set wine fair. Absolutely. So week eleven sangria Saturday nonetheless in the books. No big surprises. You know, the top ten went ten oh. A couple of games you're some nuggets that I'm sure we're going to get into as we progress through the week. But what were your big takeaways from wayside yesterday? It was just that. It was that. It was a very nice if it's gonna be a clunker when you're conquers sort of weak, and that could be applied to a couple of different schools that are in contention, Ohio State and Clemson come to mind where they had stretches of not being able to separate and looking a little bit confused at times, but we're led by defense, and ultimately survive, your clunkers, and also this is now a northwestern appreciation show, whatever and Bennett's it because that how you pronounce sclerotic show with that catch. So those were those were my main takeaways and hopeful that some injuries aren't as debilitating as they they might seem right now. Yeah. And that's it. All right. Well on that note. Let's get rolling the way we always do on a Sunday. Let's have listened to those week eleven reverts. Michigan state offense weird. Experts. Hey, this is cured calling from Naperville, Illinois. This is from national. Hey this Megan from Atlanta. His Dan Minneapolis pay. Travis from Kentucky calling from Chick-fil-A drive-thru, man Hieaux date. Michigan state is the most disgusting trash game. I think I've seen this year. This is awful. I say even at five out of five five nine five, which will house states punts down inside the five is your favorite today in Michigan state have already attempted field goals over fifty yards in the freezing cold weather, guys. Why northwest? Champs baby. Go navy? I just wanted to save. Congratulations. Northwestern winning the big ten coastal this morning, Minnesota, and it was eight degrees outside a newbie cover. My boys to beat. The gophers beats rushers Foley touchdowns is Jim on the hot seat. We could play a few minute Illinois every game next year twelve no frost warning bady say this is no roller coaster season for my hawkeye's. They was guy and now faring themselves. So they're almost coming out. The other side just me or the Oklahoma kickers bottom half extremely shape late watching. This. Devon game is like a carnival Barker is healing free Boyne skits here won't you? Pour me some of that sweet sooner sangria, boomer sooner has there ever been more of a do than little. Humphry is just another. We and will must champ deal. Can't win in Ben hill Griffin stadium sore that you wouldn't get me on the phone and you couldn't make me not alone. Go big win over overnight. But I can talk you while cast forgotten how to play football and basketball women's soccer school now shout out Johan, Seta grin and all the labs. Well, we're in November. Just like everybody predicted Herm Edwards has your son devil, full eligible tie. Disppointed bus fan, and I need to be talked allege November took Utah's quarterback and running back. But if forgot that Matt gay is really good. I can feel the goal you seek coming back from the half out of looking resplendent. Any very stylish sweater is been fourteen years since kennel the USC was unable to drink that time. And now I'm so drunk that took two hours to get you back because coup there's on her fault teen anyone really drive for six. As Mississippi stable fan. I feel honored famish. Oh, so much extinct us that. They feel the divide the referees to make sure they can defeat us as a clang fans. That means the world to me already, sir. They go your week eleven reverse spirited as always I wanna give a shout out to to ballers Gail James apparently got married yesterday. Gail emailed us. Wow. On the morning of her wedding to say how big of a fan. She was and to say that she loves her husband. I guess now husband James, so congratulations to crazy kids. Don't go to sleep upset. No have a good honeymoon saver. It's love each other. Like each other. It's all good compared to like crash relations on that dramatic note. Let's get to let's get to bedlam, Dan. Okay. So they call it bedlam. It lived up to the billing. Yes, of course. Of course, there's always a bit of nuance to these games some texture that makes it all the more special in this one catch did you catch the scene with the guy hanging out the back of the sooner schooner to hold the flag? That was that was that was athlete tie. That guy was incredible. That guy must do four thousand sit ups a day to have that kind of abdominal strength to hold himself up like a millimeter above the turf as the schooners go and full speed the other direction the horses are running. And there he is in the back out of loyalty to Oklahoma Houghton that damn flag up. Good on him. Yeah. That would hammers is core. Okay. Had the shootout. It was back and forth the entire game. I'll try the set it up. If you didn't have a chance to watch at one point it felt like Oklahoma was going to pull away. In the second quarter. But naturally, Oklahoma state comes back. They were down thirteen. They regain the lead in the second half. Then it gets real interesting in the fourth quarter. Here's what happens. The Cowboys are down forty-one thirty five the start of the fourth quarter. They engineer a ten place seventy five yard drive to tie it up at forty one forty one. And then there kicker Matt M Dollah, Dan, he misses the extra point. Guess he does MRs the extra point. It's a bit of foreshadowing you can see where this is gonna go. Oklahoma takes the lead on tracer and run with about three minutes left in the game. Oklahoma gets the lead forty eight to forty one. But then Oklahoma state comes back corn dog Cornelius connects with Thailand Wallace on a twenty four yard touchdown pass. Just over a minute left. Mike Gundy, says we're going for two Taylor. Cornelius has a guy opening makes a bad throw. And they don't convert game over well. And. Behold that missed extra point does come back to haunt Oklahoma state in the very end your final score here. Forty eight to forty seven Dan. What are your thoughts? My thoughts are one loved watching Kennedy Brooks and trae sermon in the way that running game has come together from the line from the booth from the backfield's that has been extrordinary to watch Oklahoma and has scarily opened up things for Kyle Murray. Somebody who really didn't need to have things opened up for him. So really fun to watch that offense in the creativity. That is nothing to new though to watch Oklahoma succeed on the ground. I was crazy impressed other than those a fumble in there the tuba Hubbard game Oklahoma state's running back situation has been sort of by committee these past few weeks, but without a doubt my favorite Canadian running back once again in college football and Taylor Cornelius just making huge throw after huge throw Wallace. I sorry to interrupt. I thought. Yeah. Looked really goodness game. Yes. No. I thought he looked outstanding especially given his size in the way he can move around at that size. And really throwing. Thailand wallace. And Tyron Johnson open at times. I mean, this might be the most talented or best receiver dual in the country. When they're when they're getting the ball where they like it. So I thought it was an incredible watch, unfortunately for Oklahoma state. They've only really gotten up for their biggest games, and it it'd be cool to imagine. What they look like playing more consistently on both sides of the ball. But hell of a fun game to watch good for Oklahoma for surviving. They now somebody tweeted us that if we're going to say LSU is disqualified from playoff consideration after being shutout Oklahoma should be after giving up forty seven. They gave up fifty to the cavalry. Last year. This isn't improving. So yeah, really survive your defensive clunker for Oklahoma and good good fight from from the pokes. Their offense is damn good though. I don't I don't know how they fare against a team like an Alabama or Clemson. Or even a Notre Dame teams that I think presumably a better defenses than the ones that they faced this year. But right, this offense is fun is held a watch. They're so so good with Kyle Murray. The receiving core obviously talked about the running game good on them. Big win rivalry game. Hope you took the points. I know you didn't I did not I really thought Oklahoma would run away with it. On your point though tie. We saw the Rose Bowl. It's not like if Oklahoma plays say Notre Dame or Michigan or any of these teams in a potential playoff spot that you're gonna say, well, this is a team built to shutdown Oklahoma. No, no, no survive, Oklahoma threats. You don't shut them down. It's a very valid point. Okay. Yeah. Let's talk about the SEC because we had a couple of big games there. Most notably Alabama against Mississippi State. Dan, Alabama has now won its last two games by combined fifty three to nothing. If my math is accurate to straight shutouts at this point, probably fair to wonder whether anyone's going to score on them at all in November. That's where this team. Yeah. You're not wrong. The emergence of this defensive line when having to play more than two quarters. They've looked like Alabama's defenses long look like and that's with some injuries. That's with. Them inconsistent play early on giving up some chunk plays. But it really did seem farfetched after you know, the Arkansas game or the Tennessee game where people are saying when when we gonna talk about this Alabama defense not really playing to snuff out that at that even at that time, Alabama was leading the country and points allowed per drive. So it was just it was you Alabama finally gave everybody something to say. Well, maybe they're human time. Maybe they're human. But they are also superhero also superheroes. This game very much powered by defense on both sides. But Mississippi State only had one hundred sixty nine yards here. Yep. That's right. Yeah. Hundred sixty nine total yards one for thirteen on third downs. They couldn't get anything going on offense. There was a point in this game. I don't know if you saw it, and maybe it was just me kind of reading deep into it. Nick, FitzGerald running firs life. I'm like four straight. Blaze scrambles for a couple of yards gets pulled down, and he just gets up, and I feel like in that moment. I connected emotionally with him because I was feeling it. And it seemed like he was to just like what what what am I supposed to do here? How my supposed to move the ball forward against this defense. Just didn't have guys open his line couldn't contain a very aggressive Alabama front. And then on the flip side, not to give all the credit to Alabama Mississippi State. I thought did an okay job on defense as well. Good job overmatched in spots. But did a really good job containing and otherwise potent Alabama attack, and we can get into the whole to injury angle. But yeah side to played most of this game. And I thought Mississippi State did an admirable job here on defense. Yeah. Inside on their defensive line. They got a ton of push against the Alabama offensive line. Collapsing. Pockets pretty consistently. I know Alabama was down. Believe a guard. So they're a little bit beat up along the offensive line. But one not allowing a play longer than twenty five yards. I want to say that was that the longer pass to herb Smith that is a huge huge win for this. Mississippi State, both pass rush which has been very good all season and their secondary which has been challenging everybody and Alabama wise. Yes is area bugs in Quinton Williams. Unblock -able not that this has anything novel. But it should be pointed out because they are extraordinary. And I really did think with I think both Damian Harris, and nausea Harris or kind of beat up Harris ranch, excuse me. Guess right. Josh jacobs. Ran really really well. And he had been sort of that's more speed option. And he really looked like the workhorse that they needed against a tough defense. So I thought that that was encouraging. But yes, the offensive line's struggling against the Mississippi State defensive front, especially inside too. It was hit. Yeah. And I know people are pointing to like, oh, they're targeting his name. They seemed clean to me. And there's only so much abuse quarterback can take not the biggest dude in the world and again album, shutout Mississippi State, but in terms of confidence about Alabama moving forward to isn't the most mobile guy because of you know, knee, soreness, knee, injuries, whatever that definitely changes the dynamic of this album offense, if they need to keep up with say, Georgia, not gonna Auburn Georgia or a team, you know, Michigan or Notre Dame or Clemson, whoever they might face in a potential playoff scenario. So I think are lasting. Effects? But once again, if you're defense allows zero point zero points against both Mississippi State and LSU to non aggressive scary offense, but zero combined points in eight quarters ain't bad. It's a good little cushion time will cushion. Yeah. I'm Nick saving. I don't play to against the citadel or whoever. They don't believe. Yeah. Mack? Jones. Look rough though he had heart. He had hard time. All right twenty four to nothing your final scores. Alabama continues to truck forward. You mentioned Georgia you mentioned Auburn separately. The two teams played each other and Georgia one twenty seven to ten second straight week. Now that the Andrea swift set a career Mark in rushing yardage. His personal best now is one hundred eighty six yards. He got that against a very good Auber defense, of course, included in there as a seventy seven yard touchdown run in the fourth quarter, which essentially put the game on ice Mon hold another impressive effort. Collectively for Georgia running the football as they went over three hundred rushing yards as a team, you know, the running game was there for Georgia. But otherwise, maybe it was just me seemed like the offense was a little bit off a little bit little bit outer rhythm. And maybe it's because they were playing good defense in Auburn. Sure. But clearly they're gonna have to be clicking when they play Bama in that SEC, title gains can't have twelve penalties in that one. You need to clean it up a little bit. They'll probably get there. But it helps to have that running game. At least that you can fall back on when it just feels like the rest of things aren't quite as crisp as he might like. Yeah. The killer instinct from Georgia was lacking a bit at times on offense nitpicking because. Yeah. Exactly splitting here when. Yes. I at some point in this game. And this was on the big screen for me watching the Andrea swift a finally healthy de'andre swift against the very very good Auburn. Defense. No less. I had that same breath holding as I did for Bryce love last year where it's just at any moment. He is just going to make a cut and go, and this is breath holding a good way. I don't have an Auburn rooting interest. But it was just that kind of back is incredibly fun to watch. It was, you know, Christian McCaffrey the same team, whoever William Percy Harbin. There is getting to be a gravitational element about de'andre swift, which is nothing short of extremely fun. And makes me worry about Georgia a little bit less. I am encouraged by what I saw from this defense taking advantage of a still pretty woeful Auburn offense against a decent team. But yeah, you're right. There is there is some sloppiness that needs to be cleaned up. There are some consistency issues. Justin fields came in. But it was nice to see Jake from with as much as you can nitpick Georgia. There is something very steadying about from in the backfield. He brings veteran leadership to that offense. Even the spy. The fact that he's a sophomore. He's crazy. He looks very very poised back. There you mentioned Auburn out of sync offense. That's more of an evergreen tweet. Yeah. Floor twenty eight teen than it is any kind of statement about this game because it's been their MO all season long looks like a seven five season for Gus malzahn, unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat and find a way to win the iron bowl trending towards seven and five and curious to see what that means for his long term prospects at Auburn to name that comes up, and we can get into all that another point in time. But your final score here. Again, twenty seven to ten in favor of the BULLDOGS, let's move to Saturday night up in chestnut hill. Yes, this is a big game game day. Was there Boston College was all kinds of worked into a lather? The Clemson Tigers come into town Clemson wins twenty seven to seven with the win. Clemson clinches, the ACC Atlantic. It's going to be. Their fourth straight trip to the ACC championship game. Looks like they're gonna end up playing pit which we can talk about a little bit later. Put up note here is that Clemson knocked out Anthony Brown early. They didn't Boston College quarterback like on the very first drive early. Yeah. He was apparently hospitalized with some kind of internal injury who which Steve adagio did not specify when he gave talk after the game. Obviously, we hope he's ok but with Brown leaving that meant more snaps for EJ Perry. Who's a sophomore? He was not a sub above Dan to say, the least he made a couple of decent throws. But it's to to ask a backup quarterback to come in against this Clemson fronts, and sort of weather that and throw into a really good defense when not having probably the hippie highest level of weaponry to throw to. And I know there are couple of guys who've made some noise this here. But when you have to rely on AJ Dillon. Who did everything he could he's been beat up against this front. It was mind. You Boston College has seven that was on a special teams play a very great punt return rate down. But I honestly didn't come away. All that impressed with anything Clemson did on offense. I know they made timely plays. They really didn't try to test Boston College too much downfield, which is fine. Trevor Lawrence made a kind of a questionable throw that you know, throwing into Boston college's best corner. Which was great. It's hamp Cheever's thing which hell ya what a name. But again, this is when you're clunkers Clemson scores twenty on offense. But they ultimately shut out Boston College hard to complain. Too much. Travis T N ran relatively well. I thought credit Boston college's defense for track defer, excuse me for tackling pretty well in the open fields. And if one if there were one play that almost defines this game to me, it was a Boston College screen or something on a third or fourth down and Clemson safety sprinted up to make the play. But it wasn't that. He was just you know, a train off the tracks. It was he sprinted up to make the play. And then immediately came to a dead. Stop about two yards in front of the Boston College player bracketing them inside and making the play. That's that's a crazy. Underrated the deceleration and fundamentally sound -ness of a player like that. I think is just it plays Clemson in clear higher class, even though B C at least when. They played was a top twenty two. I have two things to add on this game. That will move on the first is that, you know. I mentioned the injury. I'm not sure it mattered a whole lot who played quarterback for boss right holiday because Clemson so good on defense. Boston College finished with just one hundred thirteen total yards here. And you mentioned AJ Dylan who you're right. He tried his best could only manage thirty nine yards. I think this game looks a lot like or looked a lot like excuse me. What we might expect. Should Clemson end up playing pit games. Gonna look a lot like that. Because pit likes to run. That's really all they can do on offense. And I would expect do they? Yeah. No. We'll get to that. I promise. The second thing that I would add is that I'm very disappointed pick up on my sub above jersey. Mike's reference. Do you know what you're you're onto something continue jersey, Mike came in with a monster adv by this college football season that no one's talking about. Because it doesn't really have you know, the fallout boy jingle behind. It doesn't have the Dr Pepper. Pit bull rhythm. Playing in the background. But jersey Mike is very quietly trying to win the national championship this year. One hundred percent oughta sponsor, but if you're listening, Mike Sorber, Jim L dot com. Let us know we can we can figure something out. You're buying college football. We have college football content. Anyway, I did notice that I've never had jersey. Mike's in my life. Not for any real reason. It's wasn't in California. When I grew up, and I don't think it's a round me that much is it. Okay. It's it's. Some of the subs are marginally above. Okay. Is how how would categorize the jersey Mike's near me is it's like eating in a shoe. It is super-duper small and that takes away from the, but oh, it's okay. And it should be noted. Clemson's defensive line is still unfair and angry and a joy to watch moving on. Let's go to Ohio State twenty six who Michigan state six? This game was painful. It was it was painful to watch this game. Either team looked particularly good here. It was just that Ohio State. Looked a lot less bad. They do seem off on offense Dwayne Haskins was thrown behind guys who are wide. Open running game was okay is okay. Just three point seven yards per carry between Mike Weber and j k Dobbins, and I'd say that the. Twenty point margin of victory. Here was mostly due to good defense and special teams by Ohio State who must have pinned Michigan state inside its own five about five or six times in the second half. How much of this did you watch? And are you at a point now where you're able to talk about it pretty much watched all of this game? And you you sent out a very good tweet that after Michigan state intentionally over snapped their punter when backed up to the one or two yard line. You asked if the along snapper could play quarterback because it was an accurate over snap. It was it was high like you wanted it to be that was good pace to it. Everything you're looking for out of an arm. So can I ask a question about that play? Please. If you know you're going to snap it out of the back of the end zone. Why even put your punter back there? You're not. I mean, I. Listen, we know Mark dantonio likes fakes. So they faked it was it was the ultimate fake. Why put the putter back there? I don't I couldn't tell you. And ultimately didn't make a difference now twenty four to six twenty six two six and didn't do anything really for Michigan state. I was encouraged for a brief moment when rocky Lombardi came in had a long run lead to a scoring opportunity kicked a field right before the half. But it's it's hard to come away. From watching this game thinking house states defense is really good. It's hard to tell against Michigan state's offense or state's offense is really bad and confusing because Michigan state's defense is really good is legitimately very good. And you mentioned the rushing number even though they were held down. I actually thought Mike Weber. Ran pretty patiently look good. He looked good. Yeah. And generated some some good chunk plays later on as Ohio State ran away within the second half a little bit out to drew Christmas, though. Because you mentioned painting them back. It was Dru. Chris man who pinned Michigan state back the Ohio State punter. And you're also right about Dwayne Haskins it it'd be easy and somewhat fair to point to Michigan state doing a good job against the Ohio State offensive line. But there were plays where Haskins had time in just felt like it was too cold for him to grip and rip accurately. Like, he was throwing a boulder, and I don't know how that will show itself in the coming weeks. But I can't imagine it's going to be super warm and Columbus when they play Michigan. I don't think it's going to be tropical. No, so not not cause for huge concern right now, but going to need to make some of those against Michigan. It's sort of an understatement. If a high state brings this version of itself to that Michigan game, it's gonna be a bloodbath. Wow. That's a big statement. And I love that you made it. I mean, honestly, they gotta be better. They have to the line the. Hi, oh, state offense of line right now against Michigan's fronts of Che and win of it. And Rashawn Gary depending on his health looks like in this very strange to say it clear mismatch. All right before we move on and talk rapid fire style about what else went on in college. 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I through on that Boston College Clemson game. Yeah. And she dropped about an eleven spot on that. Casper mattress cone attends and nine so good times. All right. Let's go to the big ten quick. Let's talk about Penn State twenty two Wisconsin ten Alex Hornibrook did not make the trip to state college because of a concussion that meant the Jack Cohn experiment for the badgers. Got the start at. At quarterback. He's a freshman. He was not a sub above either. Dan. Nine of twenty two interceptions. Jonathan Taylor tailback. Had a nice day. They own eighty five and a touchdown on the ground. But that really was all of Wisconsin's offense here. Yeah. I was going to list out the different elements of Wisconsin's offense, and it was Jonathan Taylor tailback and TBB. That's nuts. Everything this is a very backwards. Alex Harney Brooke appreciation game. Maybe. Well, we are in Alex, Brooke appreciation podcasts. That is true. We are already for Harney Brooke for only so much longer. But let's actually appreciate mile Sanders who I thought Ricky Ronnie did a a relatively improved job of getting him involved. Yeah. This is not even with Wisconsin's injuries and steps taken aback this year on defense. This is not an untalented. TJ Edwards is still one of the more talented linebackers in the country. So good to see him. Get Louis C K J hamblur get involved in the passing game a little bit more. And it wasn't the prettiest game. I think it was probably literally freezing out. So that seems to affect things, you know. It's it's football weather trait. That was a dodge, sir. Yeah. Trace McSorley once again fighting through injuries. I know Tommy Stevens came in a little bit and ran it. I don't even know if he'd threw the ball, but Goodwin four Penn State against a talented, but slightly descending Wisconsin team, and they can still they can still go nine and three. Instruct winnable game. You get ten wins. It's not, you know for having a down year, you know, and everybody calling for for James Franklin to leave and to sort of move on. And what is Penn State do post shames Franklin? They've finished with Rutgers and Maryland, they're going to win nine games. And that's still if you're down year as this. That's fine. I do want to clarify everyone is not calling for him to leave. But there is certainly a lot of frustration. There's people are very enthusiastic to say James Franklin can't win the big one. This is James Franklin is a recruiter. You know, everything that happened these past couple years Joe Moorhead, you know, he he can't consistently get it done. I I think James Franklin. Good coach. I would I would urge patients I was watching people about reacting to quickly. It wasn't all that long ago that Penn State was really down and out. Sure, how they're at a point where ten wins year in year out feels like it's feels like it's almost. Expectation so to get back to this point as quickly as they have hidden testament, not to Bill Brian and not to some of the not just as some of the assistance that they've had. But certainly James Franklin who has done a marvelous job recruiting bringing the talent in so nice win here. Twenty two ten neither team at this point. Is what we thought preseason. But nonetheless, a Goodwin here for Penn State at home again by twelve let me move on. And talk about northwestern Iowa. Okay. Let's do this. I'm going to I'm going to stretch a little bit. Yeah. Fourteen to ten was your final here. I appreciated your tweet where you screen capped the box score and said, oh, yeah. That's the stuff. Ooh, right there. That's there. It is northwestern clinches the big ten west by off Iowa. Good game for is Ahah bowser one. Yeah. Five on the ground against good. I with defense made me nod my head to see that like all right, cool nights. See that going in a good direction. But in general, I tried not to watch this game. I watched a lot of highlights this morning because it was not a great offense of game to watch. It was a lot of defense a lot of punting back and forth Iowa now quickly a four loss team which really came out as quickly. Just three of thirteen on third downs. Here. The highlight of the game for me was the northwestern. Strength. Coach continues continues to get me fantasy points or. No, it was you actually took the screw loose. Yeah. The strength coach for northwestern is up there where in the short sleeve polo in twenty six degree weather, an extra medium polo. I might add XL fourteen to ten din Thai. Will you indulge me real quick? If you watched if I can't imagine anybody beyond Iowa and northwestern fans, you know, had their their eyes glued to this game until the very end. But. If you watch this first half, you know, what I'm about to do if you didn't watch the first half. You also probably know what to do. Because can I walk you through something tie? I would I would love for you to walk me through something. Then okay. Well, what happens hold on? What is that? You know, what it is? I know what it is. That's way too much energy for northwestern Iowa. Hold on this was safari playing music when it should have just been. There. It is. Puns punts downs pawns punt pawns, puns, puns, ponds punts. Hey field goal and of. It's pretty good. Right. That was going over to beakers that was only the first. Listen college football's about officiency, and they really. At least second half gave us a couple touchdowns. I don't know what I was going to do about their offense. And I understand it's I think it's Brian farance weaking of evergreen. Good lure. Yeah. I here's the thing. Every year there are different players on this Iowa offense that step up and establish themselves. This year, it really has been no offend TJ Hopkinson and MCI sergeant this these past few weeks, I think has been a playmaker. But when are we going to say, listen? Maybe we go with an outside firm to run this offense set of doing everything internally Eric prince have football product, we could look into Iowa should score thirty points a game they develop quarterbacks they put NFL linemen they develop NFL, I'm in on offense. They develop really good defense is more often than not ten points at home against northwestern. Excuse me, big ten west champ. Northwestern is unacceptable. But on the flip side northwestern is America's grower. Right. They I mean to put up just another atrocious September and then win the west, you know, find you know, is Ahah bowser and that's their offense right now that catch was incredible. But they they wrote Isaiah browser and good for good for western a really cool story. I just win win. Two more games every September. Northwestern come on. Unbelievable. Fourteen to ten fourteen to ten your final score here north western they're going to that big ten championship game quickly. Elsewhere in the world of the big ten Minnesota, forty one. Yes. Purdy ten. It was a cold. It was a snowy day in Minnesota. And the gophers defensively have been a bit of a nightmare. They were averaging five oh seven per game and total yardage going into this one. They held down a good pretty offense to just two thirty three as they win at home by thirty one by the way, they started the year out really well offense of -ly until that Maryland game. Really? But I think it was Muhammad Ibrahim who is the the star on the ground for Minnesota. They look really strong good for Minnesota. For a nice bounce back week, Nebraska, fifty four Illinois thirty five you and I are in agreement about Adri Martinez. He is he gonna be ridiculous. Yeah. It's illinois. But he's been good for the past few weeks weeks. Excuse man, was very good against the lion. I actually really. Like Illinois backfield. But that's it there an island in AJ Bush is not a good thrower. But they they have been putting up yards on the ground and good for Nebraska, son abreast. Kaz not gonna go to a bowl. I don't believe they're three and seven, but convince strong, absolutely. And then finally, Indiana thirty four Maryland thirty two Maryland having some trouble here. Paint Ramsey throwing best passes of the day, by the way, Danna really has a nice arm. Okay. Let's go to the big twelve Texas. Forty one Texas Tech thirty four talk about shoot outs in the big twelve. Wow. Now a lot of points in week eleven here on sangria Saturday, Sirius aturday, yes, Texas almost gave this away. They did Sam etlinger through his fourth and most important touchdown pass in dramatic fashion, dramatic fashion. Twenty one seconds left throws up a jump ball to Jordan Humphrey who just goes up and wrestles it away from a defender for a twenty nine yard touchdown. That was enough to give Texas the victory here. We should note that British comedy legend. Alan Bowman did not play this week after staying in the hospital for four nights, Al recovering again from that partially collapsed lung that he dealt with earlier in the year, this meant that jet. Duffy got the call did pretty well for tech. I don't know. Hello vendors at this point who plays quarterback for tech. Yeah. Took a little time for him to get comfortable. He's been thrown into action and beat out and came. Back. He has a really nice game against Texas team. That was pretty decimated by injuries in the secondary nine excuse, and they did make plays when it counts. But did a great job taking advantage picked on the right guys. He goes from five hundred yards through the air, Texas had a very comfortable. I think there are twenty seven to ten at a certain point Texas Tech comes storming back, and I feel the same way about Lil Jordan Humphry as you feel about your Rowenta iron that you also gifted me a love or. Yeah. For my wedding. Which was you know, everybody just needs a really good iron. Yeah. Everybody just needs a little Jordan Humphry. That is just always going to be there for you to iron out all the wrinkles. Right. And make sure you finish smooth little Jordan Humphry is spectacular. And that amazing catch and touchdown dive. I believe was at the same corner of the field as the Michael Crabtree catch. Yes. Ten years fry. Fire so semi continues to be good no turnovers. And you know, they improve Texas improves a little bit on the grounds was very cool to see at least, Texas. Hold on. And God little Jordan's my favorite little, Jordan. I love my role into not a sponsor though. No, not a sponsor. I know how much you like it. They could be. Yeah. Love my heavy duty production tie. All right, Texas, by the way, gets Iowa State at home next week, which should be a fun game to provo- at Wednesday, essentially third place battle in the big twelve Isla St. one twenty eight to fourteen the game was never really in doubt against Baylor nother. Great showing Brock Purdy Purdy like a Brock star. Like he's been ever since getting that job. But the notable highlight here for me was the fight that broke out in the third quarter. Yeah. Early on third quarter. I think David Montgomery was pushed way behind the sideline on a run out of bounds. A late hit to say the least. Tempers flared a little bit their tempers flared a couple of plays later, which included I believe I want to get this. Right. I believe it was an Iowa State player who threw a punch around a referee talk about the punch. That was no I'm looking right now, I think it was a Baylor player. Please talk. Can you please explain to me the thought process behind throwing a punch at a guy with a helmet? I listen once you're once you're seeing red to that extent. That is there. You're just seeing what you need to say. And that's there's a head somewhere around there. I'm watching I'm watching it is it is Baylor player. And it wasn't really a punch that much was a an aggressive slap around the ref. You would I'd away GPS tracking technology and perhaps lasers to thread that punch through the open part of the face mask and connect with any flesh of your enemy. Oh, yeah. No that up, and I think ref get some some shrapnel. Okay. There we go. It was. Yeah. It was fifty two for Baylor Roberts and David Montgomery is you know, he was ojected from this game. So it's unclear what his status will be against Texas. But I was state does a good job, football wise and Brock Purdy. Once again looks talented beyond his years. I agree West Virginia forty seven TCU ten big day for will Greer the takeaway here for me? Me is really just West Virginia puts up a ton on offense. But they've got big games coming up here. The last two weeks of the year, really decide the trajectory moving forward for West Virginia. They're at Oklahoma state next week, then their home against Oklahoma to close out the year. It's good to see them clicking on offense. Like this. That's important going in right to biggest games their season. We'll talk a lot more about them next week for sure. And then on the flip side. Wow. TCU four and six on the year. Yup. They've got Baylor and Oklahoma state left. You could probably find a path for them to get to six winds because Oklahoma state's by cans little bit here, and there and Baylor, you know, you never know what you're gonna get from the Baylor bears with the way that TCU is plaguing though, I can't either it's tough to envision a path to get the six wins at this point for them. So TC beat Iowa State in week five I believe that was their fifth game. And they scored seventeen and held down to fourteen in retrospect, that's totally fine. Beating Iowa State is good since then they've scored fourteen against Texas Tech in a loss. They lost to Oklahoma by twenty five. They lost Kansas by one. They scored fourteen my do in a win over Kansas state a score more than fourteen against Kansas state. They lose to West Virginia by thirty seven. You say there's a path I think that path is being blockaded now and TCU is has been completely and utterly devastated by injuries on both sides of the ball. Even when Sean Robinson was healthy. He was not particularly good and this defense, especially in the back end has it's just it's patchwork at this point. I mean, I couldn't tell you. If there are walk on splaying significant time in the secondary wouldn't surprise me with how they've looked. So it is just a law season for the frogs. That's all it is the gap year as it is gap. You fictionally called it here on the podcast. Yeah. They scored ten points against West Virginia. Like, that's that's sort of tell. Yeah. On the state of this offense. And then finally. For the governor's Cup. We had Kansas state twenty one Kansas seventeen in the rivalry spot. Hey, close at the week for the big twelve in the SEC a couple of games here that we couldn't cover at the top. But Tennessee, twenty four Kentucky seven the note that I have literally written down on my note sheet here is what the hell was this game? What the hell is this game? Dan. I watched a good chunk of this this morning. I woke up early what Tennessee looks like this season, especially the second half of this season. So lately, they what they lost to South Carolina competitively. They put up some points in the second quarter against Alabama that go to Auburn and win on the road. And they comfortably beat Kentucky. Believe it was in Knoxville. What you're seeing out of this Tennessee team is everything you want to see from a coaching staff that has a lot of work to do personnel wise moving forward. But it's everything you want to see in that they are formulating game plans that are encouraging. They are getting the most out of players on both sides of the ball that they did not necessarily recruits to the systems that they want to run. I thought Darrell Taylor was an absolute monster for Tennessee rushing the passer, I think you've finished with three or four sacks. And one of them was a strip sack. I thought Jaren Tana was put in a winning position against a very good Kentucky defense, especially the secondary. He was picking them apart at times, I would be very encouraged I cautiously, but still very encouraged if that makes sense I mean, they finish out with Mizzou and Vanderbilt both of those are winnable games. Given the weaknesses of those teams. It win games moving forward. So Tennessee, I believed to be a bowl team after shaky start getting killed by West Virginia. I think it was six turnovers against flu. Florida. I think things are falling into place for Tennessee to be a good team. I would agree with that. If you would've told me during our SEC east preview Tennessee's team, I would have called you crazy. I would've yet in feel like didn't feel like Jeremy Pruitt could get them there. But they've been playing hard each and every game. It seems like there is real growth. They're moving forward. Jerry Goren tunnels been pretty good the last couple of weeks now. Yeah. And you know, defensively they've got studs. Like Daryl Taylor who had four sacks in this game against Kentucky. So all do credit to what Pruitt is doing in year one in Knoxville. And then on the flip side just quickly word about Kentucky does feel like they're wearing down a little bit here. Yes defense was not quite as sharp in this one. Benny Snell held mostly in check that we had like eighty something yards on the ground twenty four to seven and nice win for Tennessee over Kentucky team. It's been pretty good this season. It feels like it might be the bottom falling out a little bit. After the Georgia game. Everything was so hyped for Kentucky going into that George game. And what what could they do compete out of the SEC east and just it's tough. It's tough to to get into November and keep that high level of play when you aren't necessarily the deepest or most talented team, especially on offense, Florida, thirty five South Carolina, thirty one South Carolina was up seventeen points late in the third quarter seemingly destined to hold up that legendary must champ bowl trophy, Dan. They had it was within reach. But then Philippe pay Franks head other plans. He had other is Dan he threw for a touchdown at the end of the third quarter to get a little bit closer we dove across the goal line with four minutes left in the game to give Florida the lead and the win a heartbreaker here for the Gamecocks. They've now played in five straight games decided by four points. Or less over that stretch. They've gone three and two. But what can you say about Florida here to come from behind the way that they did Philippe bay Franks emotional kid playing his heart out out there? He did a good job. When it counted. I thought Florida continued to show growth on offense, especially on the ground with Jordan's Marlet. It'll Michael p Rhine they both go over one hundred they add to three hundred sixty seven team yards on the ground for the Gators Florida's now in a spot where they're seven and three they close out with Idaho. And Florida state both of which should translate to wins a nine and three season going to presumably a pretty good ball game is a hell of a first act for Dan Mullen. Yeah, their schedule is pretty ideal for first year coach chart trying to alter some some previous offensive woes. Thoughtfully by Franks was good both through the air and on the ground that throat a Cadarache Tony throw and catch were great. I appreciate the patience from Florida. You mentioned scarlet P Ryan growing. But it was the patients to trust them as they were succeeding with the offensive line on the ground to come back in this game to whether some some pretty porous defence early on. And to win this game, by the way, South Carolina their past. I don't even know how many games so since the Missouri game in the I think that was like gross weather, South Carolina wins that by two loses to am by three beats Tennessee by three beats ole miss by four loses to Florida by four. Yeah. So if you're looking for random entertainment, find will must champ and South Carolina because they are a wire team right now. Sometimes they're on sometimes they're off moving on LSU twenty four Arkansas seventeen. I don't think the final score here is indicative of this game. Even though Arkansas did come back. They tried to come back. Yeah. At the very end with two touchdown passes from ties story LSU was actually up twenty four to three in the. Quarter before that charge. Also, a really tough beat here. If you had LSU minus thirteen I don't know if you saw this at the end of the game. Yeah, they they took Nick process took two knees. He took essentially to knees yelling intentionally short of the goal line with LSU up seven to keep that clock running. And only win by seven which didn't cover that point spread even though. Yes, even though it should have been thirty one seventeen technically. I thought there was a good amount of ugliness to this game. As there often is with LSU in Arkansas that it was nothing that LSU fans should come away saying, oh, we're comfortably better than Arkansas based on last night's performance about LSU at a number of issues on offense. And there is sort of that lack of killer instinct that comes with inconsistent quarterback play. I know he actually completed a bunch, but wasn't a huge fan of, you know, aside from was one big Justin Jefferson play what they look like, you know, moving the ball against is a pretty bad Arkansas defense. So listen when you're clunkers LSU, did it it's fine in my mind. They're still disqualified from any playoff talk. So we can just move forward. And finally in the SEC we had am thirty five ole miss twenty four big game or Trayvon Williams to twenty eight. And a touchdown on the ground still too many mistakes Kellen Mont, but a win nonetheless four, Texas am and finally the close out the SEC we had Mizzou thirty three and vandy Twenty-eight anything to add. Yeah. Need conversation about the best running backs in the country. Have to must include Trayvon Williams. Kellyn Monde is probably this year's like I I forget the exact line, dumb and dumber. Which is just a a huge air by me. But like the right when I think you haven't done you couldn't be any worse you go and completely redeeming. Redeem yourself that is that is the Kelham on experience. So yes, good for Mizzou for coming back in this game. They needed all. You know, however, many thousands hundreds of thousands of seconds to make it work against vandy. But they make it work against a against the doors. Fandy just is having problems finishing. Let's move over to the Pac twelve in. Let's very quickly. Very here's where we stand from the thirty thousand foot view on the Pac twelve ASU now controls its own destiny in the Pac twelve south Utah's working if ASU's should stumble at Oregon or at a resort Utah would be. But right now ASU in in control, excuse me. And it also looks like in the north the apple Cup is likely going to decide who moves onto the Pac twelve championship game. The rest of the pack though, Dan who we're talking seven teams that are five and five or six and four at this point. We are indeed. And I like it I like the just insanity and how stupid everything looks in the pack twelve right now because it's very clear that there are no actual stakes involved in the Pac twelve beyond Washington state, who by the way that is probably the story of yesterday that felt very trapping. The defense made a huge statement in in the cougs taking down Colorado a team still without lettuce cushion, all but really great job by the cougs. Arizona state looks very good. You know, Benjamin I think is for real the running back who has emerged for the sun devils against a UCLA team that that plays with a lot of fight were in this game. The whole time I thought Wilton spe did a pretty good job for the Bruins. And that's that's a short handed UCLA team. So encouraged by state holding on and winning that game to kill Harry. We know is a dude amongst dudes as well. As for Utah. Utah beat a below average Oregon team with their backup quarterback and backup running back. And if you watch any of this game, you should come away extremely encouraged that listen, Utah has issues, but they don't have organised this, right? And I thought the youths did a good job. Putting the the back of quarterback Jason Shelley and a position to make plays. They may plays on the ground. They weathered a pretty significant charge from Oregon in the third quarter when their offense finally appeared to enjoy getting first downs or desire first downs. Organ is basically a five and seven six and sixteen that because of their schedule will finish with a better record. But the organ's remains broken the organ defense remains just bad. And it's a shame. Given Justin Herbert's talents and ability to to make huge NFL type throws Oregon just doesn't want layups organ refuses take laps when they do. It works. And they're dealing with a lot of injuries on offense at this point after this game. But it's clear that this offense is just it was it was constructed poorly. And I I can't imagine that this offense is gonna look like this both on the sideline with the coaching staff and on the field next September. K I do wanna stop you for a moment though. Because you know, we have been on the receiving end of a lot of free range. Colorado hate this season. That's true. And you did make a mistake. A very rare mistake. Oh, no. I'm in. No come on. I've I make a lot this team was not without viscous Chenault. Oh, he did play. Ten catches a hundred and two yards. No touchdowns. Oh, you're totally right. Very much a part of this offense as Washington state did win thirty one to seven in this ball game. Interesting factoid here from Nick who has largely been in the background. And. Yeah this season. But he runs solid. Verbal research department been very helpful the season. Thank you, Nick. Yeah. Washington state's one hundred thirty one rushing yards were the most they've had in over a year. This is not a team predicated on the running game, right? But one hundred thirty one yards the most they've had in fifteen games. Gotta go all the way back to last October. If you wanna find the last time they had that much. I would like to apologize to LA vista. And all of the Chenault s-. Nonetheless, Colorado has now started the season five now. And since in five, I don't know if you mentioned that USC lost fifteen fourteen I did not, and we are about to probably collectively as a college football universe. Have some USC conversations? Because getting out to a fourteen point lead. And then doing nothing is nothing new to see this season. We saw the Texas game. It wasn't as dramatic because CAL's offense excuse me is pretty atrocious. It's very outfits. Cal gets a safety on a botch. Snap in the third quarter. I think USC shutout Cal in the first half and USC just unable to build on anything. They did in the second quarter. Chase Garber was fine for Cal third. Their quarterback this week at least but didn't throw for hundred yards in this game. Cal just wins this game with that a timely interception on a very bad JT Daniels pick and you credit to you tie. You were high on this calcium going into the season? Dude. I went like eighty percent on the whole week all the games that we picked I feel like I did tweak. No, I know this week. I did well last week riding a little bit of a heater here. But yeah, you're right. I mean, you call this you call being high on Callan July even with this atrocious offense. This defense them we talked about it cal- doesn't make unforced errors. There's a talent gap between Cal and most of this conference, but they're not gonna shoot themselves in the foot. We'll see what happens next week for USC. They play UCLA. They don't beat UCLA. I'm curious to see where the conversation goes. I know we have recessions gonna go. But I'm curious to see how that transpires the they're on. I mean, it's on the road, quote unquote there the play that game in the Rose Bowl, and they finished hosting Notre Dame USC is a mess, and it's a mess within the context of. There are blue chips everywhere on this too deep. I get their starting a true freshman quarterback. But they can't fourteen points against Cal at home. No. All right. This isn't this isn't okay. Fair enough very quickly. Let me run through the scores in the Pac twelve and we'll move on fifteen fourteen Calver USC Naess you beats UCLA thirty one to twenty eight UCLA played. I thought they held their own in that game. We had. Yeah. For sure was thirty one to seven over Colorado, Utah thirty to Oregon twenty five and Stanford forty eight Oregon state seventeen. Yeah. Nice day from Stanford against an atrocious defense, but you know, Oregon state's the cure for the common offense. And finally, let's close out with the ACC. Let's talk very quickly about Notre Dame forty to FSU thirteen Dan on top of the fact. That Notre Dame's starting quarterback in book was out with injury. Notre Dame came out with those Oregon green jerseys on they did. And I gotta admit just a peel back the curtain a little bit. This set off a flurry of text messages with mom h with my brother-in-law. Who's also an avid way the most in your universe. It's me. It's gotta be me up. No one else has the emotional connection with the green the way I do. But I'm seeing this and I'm thinking, okay backup quarterback, Oregon green jerseys. It was not Notre Dame that was very very great neon. Few will they've worn those before I feel like maybe I don't know. I blacked out. I think they have night game in Notre Dame stadium against the team that in the past has given them fits now. It would have to have been a hell of a fit given the state of this FSU team. But I'm thinking, why don't you just go in a dark room and start chanting Bloody Mary why not just really ten. Fate at this point. But nonetheless within the first seventy five seconds of this football game Notre Dame had both in interception and touchdown. Nothing. Supernatural went on throughout the courses. Football game. Notre Dame jumps out to a quick seventeen to nothing lead at the end of the first quarter. They're up thirty two to six at halftime. Obviously the end up winning this one going away nice night for Dexter Williams who had over two hundred yards on the ground had some acrobatic catches by the Notre Dame receiving core. Some nice passes. I'll say from Brandon wimbush, but Charlton midly had his customary twelve twenty five passing with a couple touchdowns couple interceptions. Good enough against this Florida state team, which has really struggled all season long. I thought had a couple quirks in there where they made Notre Dame think about it. But by large just really not ready for primetime right now. And. It's a bit shocking. Honestly, how quickly it seems Florida state has regressed I know Willie Taggart trying to build this team in his own image. But they got a lot of holes to plug between now and start next season. Yeah. The offense of line is particularly bad. And that that's not a surprise, given the injuries and talent level on hand. Florida state couldn't even keep a close against Brandon wimbush team. Ben wish Notre Dame team. If that's some if it weren't for Louisville, Florida state is sort of the border line Washington generals of the ACC. And a C C related Damon. Okay. I mean, we have we have somebody reading during the Clemson, Florida state blow out for more entertainment, more, visceral, aggressive, entertainment Flynn. We've we've a mighty good tale. But yeah, this game was Dexter Williams. This game was the defense. This game was Notre Dame doing what really good teams do take advantage. The other teams mistakes stick with your own game plan go with what's working, and then keep going with what's working in that was Dexter Williams. And I look forward to watching this Notre Dame team eventually against some high level competition. So we can we can truly gauge where they're okay. Okay. Fair enough fair enough. No, absolutely. I don't know when that will be that might be early January might be early January, wait Orest twenty-seven NC state twenty three they played this one on Thursday wake was a seventeen and a half point dog. And they win a good win for them or a bad loss for NC. State. It may be an an door scenario here. So we talked about how that running game has really been an issue for NC state all year. It should not have been an issue against a really bad wake run defense. But it was an NC state had plenty of chances in this one. They were up ten in the fourth quarter. They had a bunch of chances in the red zone, but they had to settle for field goals. So it was there for NC state. They just couldn't convert wake by the way was starting Jamie Newman at quarterback he had a great game. But it was his very first start all told twenty seven to twenty three or final wake with a pretty sizable upset just in terms of the point spread here. The live your life. Like you never want to look like NC state in the red zone. Yeah. That's very that's. Yeah. Good for wake. And you know, it's a sign of a good quarterback. Coach like, you know, wake obviously hasn't Dave Clawson in the coffins that they're essentially third string quarterback Jamie Newman. Who by the way, sounds like the name of nineties high school, prom Queen like a bunch of nerds gathering up like you're going to probe with g. He knew. Jamie. Newman was good against. State defense. So yeah, really really nice win for wake Thursday night. Pitt fifty two Virginia Tech twenty to listen to this. Four hundred I played play the murder San just play it. Hold on hold on. Where's it? Guests. Just got. Four hundred and nine two yards and six touchdowns on the ground. Quadri Alison to thirty five and three touchdowns with a ninety seven yard touchdown run. Darren Hall one hundred eighty six yards on the ground and a seventy three yard touchdown run. I believe if my math is accurate that the Panthers can clinch the ACC postal by winning one of their last two games against wake and Miami. I think the odds are very favorable. That's going to end up happening. But let's talk a little bit about that pit rushing attack. Dan, you texted me when I said wait pit just demolished Virginia Tech because I watched the little bit of that game. This morning were recorded the Sunday morning. Cadre Allison runs angry and God islet Lii. And you mentioned Darren hall's hundred. Eighty six yards. Seven carries seven carries got him to a buck eighty six and I would love, you know, I would not use time travel for anything responsible. I would love to go back and fly into one of our dreams in like early September and say all right. So this Virginia Tech team that just murdered Florida state. So this Virginia Tech team is gonna play pit later on the season. This pit team is going to lose to a terrible north guesses in section kind of thing. I know real multiple levels pits gonna lose to a terrible North Carolina to maybe like, all right. Yeah. That makes sense. Thank you future Danner tie. And then they're just going to completely and thoroughly squash and flatten Virginia Tech who have a good night in college football media. Would you enlist to be part of that inception crew? So crew that will fly it somebody appear in the dream. That's it looks very lucid. Right. Like, we gotta get somebody or something. Do you want calmness? Or do you want? Just something aggressive. I just want people who can help us plan. So Andy Staples would provide for a fun inception type situation in just appearing in people's dreams. Okay. Okay. I feel home pit probably help us pull off that kind of God. Oh, so you want somebody to actually be the programmer in the van? That's right. Okay. I see what you're saying. I I'd probably want Bill Connolly. All right. Well, let's talk about Syracuse fifty four whoville twenty three. Oh god. Why are we? Let's just talk Mon Neil and move on. I don't mean to rub salt in the wound here. Okay. And I don't want to spend too much time of Louisville, But they are continually finding a way to look worse every week how they're doing. It is beyond me. They had seventeen penalties in this game for one hundred twenty five yards. I believe that number includes eight to ten offside penalties in the first half. I don't know how that's even possible. That defense as a whole actually wasn't terrible in spots for Brian van border. And I'm really bending myself into a pretzel trying to say that but has not been a good year for Louisville. Syracuse wins this one going away. They've got a big one on deck in Yankee Stadium against Notre Dame. If you were to tell me that five weeks ago Louisville players were secretly making money. By putting up those flyers in dorm room community rooms, and you know, they'll tear off at the bottom of the flyer or it's just like started defensive tackle for Lulu rip off a little bit of a thing. And you've you pay somebody one hundred dollars to get their uniform. I would assume. Oh, okay. This is what Foley makes sense this is ugly and good for Syracuse. Are you scared of Syracuse at all? Of course was a Notre Dame fan Kimmy. I've been scared of all ten of not opponents so far. Okay. Fair enough. I I don't think you should. But okay, Duke, forty two UNC thirty five wild one here. Big game for Daniel Jones. The I forty seven and total yardage for him. The highlight for me, though, was David cut cliff dance until little James Brown in the locker room after this game. I tweeted out he's America's Funchal. Yeah. He's got. He's got Melissa. I am. I am totally good. With it Duke football. It's been a roller coaster season. But that roller coaster season means what they're seven and three right now. That's right. That's fine. Danny. Jones was all over the place. He was their offense. Cool to see it gets real soon because they get they go to Clemson. But they finished with wake so big no eight and four eight four two is fine. Great Georgia Tech twenty-seven Miami. Twenty-one tech controls the clock the return overs. They run it against the good Miami. Rush defense, then they slowly pull away in the second half Miami on the precipice of missing a bowl. They need to beat Virginia Tech or pit to get their sixth win here and move onto ballgame. Twenty seven to twenty one your final Miami scored a second half touchdown though. So that's new finally Virginia forty five liberty twenty four the only other game here that I did want to throw out that Boise knocked off your boy, Jeff Tedford and Fresno go twenty four to seventeen game. I. I watched that game Saturday morning and came away very impressed with Boise state's resolve especially with Madison Avenue, paving, the way, I think Brett Rippin set some sort of huge mountain west passing record early on in this game. But yeah, Fresno state jumped out to a comfortable lead in Boise state clause back and this opens up the mountain west a little bit. There was some other results that I think Nevada is a very quiet grower right now they start off the season really slow, but Jay Novell. And I think it's Taiji as their quarterback. They've been just laying it on teams Utah state. I mean at San Jose State, send does estate Jordan love is. We might need to start talking about Jordan love just in terms of him being a sort of McKenzie Milton ist group of five quarterback. Troy did a nice job against Georgia. Southern who's now dropped a couple. But that was one of the one of the bigger games of the week in conference USA. Who else? Do we have here that that I had other notes Colgate gave up a touchdown, by the way, which what the hell raiders UCF holds onto beat a navy team that makes it a game later on in the in the fourth quarter. I had some other notes here ties swear, I did Memphis holds on puts almost fifty on Tulsa, who's not good, by the way tie SMU is five and five four and two in the American. It's forget that. It's Yukon SMU was better than they should be at this point another team that I think I can safely say that four Cincinnati Cincinnati is full on good. Houston valiant effort. Dear king tries to do everything. And almost does. But they lose to the temple owls who by the way. Offensive juggernaut out of nowhere. Those the American is quite fun right now. So I enjoy that very much and by the way, the Cincinnati reference was the fact that they're nine and one and beat south Florida by double digits. I don't know. Gosh tie. Don't want to leave anything out though. The collision course is still very much set between you and buffalo. Yup. Buffalo winds Tuesday nights, very comfortably against Kent state. And I you wins comfortably against the Toledo team kind of a gap year for the rockets right now. I don't think there was too much of a surprise. By the way, I said Choi in Georgia Southern conference USA, probably three people notice that totally wrong about their conferences. That's that's a sunbelt mass. It is a sunbelt matchup. I'm a dumb person sometimes app state keeps it rolling with a comfortable win. Lafayette, actually made a dent in army for a little bit for a little bit. I it was just a little bit. But that's that's good enough. North North Texas who had started the year out really well as come back to earth a little bit. They lose to ODU. Nice win for Florida Atlantic because they won a game. It was western Kentucky. That's your boy. Mike Sanford, having a tough tough year. What the hell toppers? They follow an six in conference very quietly once again, and it shouldn't be quite UAB now undefeated in conference USA nine and one overall. They get by southern miss who's not terrible and Spencer Brown another nice game for the blazers so cool to see from conference USA now two years removed from not existing tie from not existing. That's every have. Yeah. I quote to you from an Email we received early this morning from Nick of the salt verbal research department. Yes. He says I'm looking forward to week twelve for what it's worth a potential name idea with division races winding down and bowl eligibility on the docket. Many teams are about to add. Games to their schedules. For this reason, perhaps save the date Saturday might fill. I am. We could definitely do a marital themes week twelve show for sure this is sort of a marital theme show. You gave the advice at the top. Congratulations to Gail ingenious true. Save the date Saturday coming up in week twelve I think we I think we call it now. I like that. That's a hard one to be tie. Will you will you honor helped me on her some dudes real quick, please? Please, please. Daniel if it's the last thing we do on this show. Yes. Please honor some dudes. Is AM bugs incredible. And was a fun figure on Alabama's ESPN show before the season started. Daniel Jones is everything once again for Duke, everything everything everything I said everything because I'm honoring Qadri Alison for pit run of pits running game Dexter Williams for Notre Dame. Come on full on do drew and the punter for Ohio State. The Andrea swift. You know, Daryl Taylor for Tennessee Thailand. Wallace. Mike goodness, Madison Avenue for Boise state on the ground. David long making plays all over the place for West Virginia. Ben, it's ironic for northwestern with the incredible catch Jordan Humphrey, the Rowena iron of this show in college football, Jordan, love and MO Ebrahim for Minnesota. All right there you have it. 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Shoot Your Shot

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Shoot Your Shot

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There's nothing better than the fall season season here in Connecticut sons out but it feels like the air conditioners on outside perfect college football weather week four is upon us and and we got some great matchups David Pollack joining us to break down the big games as he always does on Fridays pollock how you feeling man. It is go Tom. There's there's so many good Games James. It's a buffet this weekend so let's just sit down and enjoy and watch all day long. Don't do chores. You're the wrong Saturday so tell you why if you're GonNa get it done on Sunday sit in front of the TV all day long. Just watch all these games. It's beautiful. We're GONNA we're. GonNa get this Saturday slate in a moment. I WANNA start here for tonight a key matchup. UTAH TRAVELLING TO USC tough loss for the trojans in Provo this past weekend but this is critical. This is critical Michael for the PAC twelve is Utah comes in undefeated. They're favored by four points. What's your initial thoughts when you look at this matchup well. I'll tell you what initially my first I thought would be for for Utah's defense. I I'd love their defense. I love their front seven how physical they are if you can't if you don't have multiple corners again and they can cover all these USC receivers that are going to throw the football the over the yard and listened Slava's Kinda came back down to Earth he had a he looked more like a freshman didn't he looked more human and now now we saw Gabriel by the way you see freshman look out of this world by the way against against Stanford too so we might have to pump the brakes a little bit on what we thought and that's that's why there's more games and more reaction but I just want to see the defense for Utah. This will show me if the defense is real. I have no doubt they'll be able to score some points and they'll be able to be physical go against USC but defensively are they going to be good enough in the secondary in the slots to be able to cover receivers and explosive office because I know they're going to be physical. Michael and I know they're going to be tough. I think this'll tell me if Utah's got a chance to to make the College Football playoff you make a great point though about slow come back to Earth also because he was on the rothe his first road test in that environment in Provo which was great and I thought that fence that game was fantastic the back and forth to me him I'm coming back home and the idea that he looked great in that second half against Stanford. We gotta figure things out on what that really means considering where we've seen Stanford what they've done and so far this season disappointing star for the cardinal for me. I look at Utah's offense and Huntley and loss. Are you comfortable with this team and the idea that they can make a run here to the playoff with the way this offense is constructed. I think it's still growing. I think it will still continue to get better anytime you switch coordinators. It's going to be something that takes some time but I'm very comfortable with what I've seen from huntly I'm not I don't think he's ever going to be a guy that sets the world on on fire but when you talk about completion percentage over eighty one last week you know over seventy three seventy four over seventy eight in week one. I mean you're talking about literally complete at least seven hundred ten passes and being ultra fish. He's not gonNA throw the ball. Byu's formulas not throw the ball fifty five times like we we talked about the other day with Lsu and Alabama just chucking the ball all over the yard. That's not who they are and what they are. That's not what they WANNA be. He didn't have to run this year as much either. He didn't have to take as many shots. What's as we've seen him taking the past. I think he's very efficient within this offense moss as as a physical downhill guy last week you saw receivers making big plays blaze for because it wasn't just Dinka dunk low yardage last week was the first time you saw some explosive plays down the field of of big game big chunk yards but I think that's what you want to see Thompson receiver in Moss at running back and maybe some more explosive elements but yeah I'm comfortable because I think they know who they are and I don't think Huntley is ever. We're going to be a guy that wants to throw the ball or needs to throw the ball thirty times a game forty times a game like Slovenia. I mean think about it. Slows has seventy five attempts. Huntley has forty five. Ah Excuse me here's fifty four tenths like this completely opposite styles of play and they're going to be all season long. If Huntley throws the ball ball more than twenty five to thirty times then you have to be worried about where the game is and what's going on 'cause that's. That's just not how the style is so who you got in this game this Utah. USC Matchup. I like Utah. I like Utah. Here's here's the thing that we said about the hell error for for USC and and this is not taking shots at anybody what I've seen from this group consistently is not enough grownups in the trenches that are going to slot people around to not enough meanness okay I don't. I don't see enough of that consistently. Utah's got some striking them. They got some. They got some dirt bag and in which is good. That's not a bad thing by the way they got. Some got some people that don't like people like I. I WANNA go recruit guys that don't like people especially defensively you gotta be able to hunt and play hard and and have a little nasty disposition to you and I I just I see more of that with Utah Trust Utah more than I trust. USC SO I give Utah the edge and I think they'll win the ballgame all right huge matchup here as we talk about Saturday games to let's let's dip into that noon. Contest and and Michigan is going on the road at Wisconsin last time we saw Michigan. They were taken to overtime and they were feeling tight fixed. Everything you'd think so just everything there. There's a lot of storylines in this contest to because they're traveling here they're going to Madison and the Wolverines or one in five on the road against ranked opponents under Jim horrible when you see this game and obviously you're being sarcastic with the by and trying to fix some of the things in the offense events. What is the one thing that stands out in this match up you ever started this season at any point in going when Michigan and Wisconsin Played Klay Chapter in week four of college football that shape patterson would have less yards than cone for for no way now with all the high absolutely not right. I mean cone literally. I don't even know his name yet because we hadn't heard about him yet but he was he has been the model of efficiency so far by the away doesn't have to be asked to do a lot hasn't turned the football over yet the opposite of what shape patterson like right now Michigan. I feel like could use this guy. I mean that's how that's how bad shape patterson has been to start the season. I Know Gaddis came over to change the offense. It doesn't look much different than it did not pushing people around upfront so I just I don't know how Michigan's GonNa win this game. I I wonder what they figure out offensively listen. They gotTA RUN SHAPE Patterson Moore. He's running back. I mean use him as in his athleticism if you don't I don't see how you win. Ballgames you have to get that extra advantage with the quarterback either being blocker in the option game and the or in the zone read game or or you. Just you just think you're going to get beat up. I just think you're going to get beat. Wisconsin's defense is better than it's been than it was last year last year. It was a sieve have so I just it's amazing what we're looking at with these two teams so for who you got this. I kinda WanNa see what Michigan does and that I first quarter because the one thing we can we can guarantee in this game. Jonathon Taylor is going to get the ball a lot right. That's the most consistent thing but Michigan's defense done a really good job against Taylor. When you look at what has numbers are against Big Ten teams. I still go Wisconsin because I trust one guy and that is Jonathan Taylor on the field offensively. I know what I'M GONNA get. I have no idea what we're going to get from Michigan. I don't know if that that buys. GonNa give us the opportunity a little bit more Dylan McCaffrey. I had no I know feel for machine and it sounds like you have the same thing you have no feel for what Michigan's offensively now and I would play McCaffrey more I would would in other. Would you shays athleticism. I would just find a way to I also don't think Michigan is what they were defensively in the last couple of years yeah. I don't think there are strong as they've been and I think this offense with Wisconsin. It's done a much better job early in the season not just pounding Jonathan Taylor straight ahead. They've used them in the screen game. They use them in the past game more than they had in the past and I think that's just another way to get that phenomenal freak show in space. That's going to equal good things Wisconsin and I it just it's amazing. It's amazing to see what Jim Harbaugh's offense has become when it used to be a guy that we consider a cut cut above almost everybody in his professional offensively early. We used to think that and now they can't manufacture anything right. That's what Michigan Desperately Spratly needed when they brought him in it was hey no matter what we know what we're GONNA get. We have an identity now back with this program. That's all the way back to bow right right and now this season the way started. I have no idea what Michigan's identity is on offense and and it's it's it's to me. It's kind of ridiculous Nicholas that we're at this point right now in the horrible tenure at Michigan that we have no concept of what the identity of the program is moving forward. The only identity we have is when it comes to games against ranked teams horrible teams. Don't show up and the change. That's the change this weekend so I think you would I on the same page. We're both picking Wisconsin. We're both picking Utah so far out the gate now really good sneaky good and when I say sneaky because I I think most of the attention is on Michigan Wisconsin at noon and then the the nightcap the Georgia Notre Dame game. We'll be back in a minute with politics preview you auburn and Texan but first a word from allstate because mayhem on Saturdays in the fall is inevitable. Mayhem happens on the field sold off the field and in the polls mayhem lives on the wind in the rain on the foot of an Aaron kick and during a trap game. You'll find mayhem in the parking lot during tailgates charcoal. That's not totally out an arid football through a window a flat tire a loss side view mirror etc etc you get the point allstate protects you for mayhem in the parking lot and outside it at home and away. You can't stop mayhem from happening but you can get better protected from it with all state. The potential for May have during the playoff race is rampant underdogs trap games James in unexpected weather get better protected from mayhem with allstate. Contact your local allstate agent today by the way I wanNA remind everyone for Monday. Our loyal listeners can submit questions that Herbie will answer on the next podcast. Leave a five star review on Apple podcast with your questions and the best questions will make the air now back to the show Auburn. Am and you talk about two teams with brutal Ruutel Schedules and Auburn for the next five games four of them on the road. They're going on the road here to college station. Bo Bonex another big challenge. What do you see in this matchup first of all. I'm not scared of of the moment for Bonex. I think he showed me week one against against Oregon. He's a game where he's a baller. I will say this last week was the first time you saw the running game takeover for Auburn and it was much needed at three guys over over one hundred yards and they look like the Auburn teams. We've seen in the past that used to line up and smash people I just I think this is interesting because take sexy physical upfront. They got a bunch of Buckeye bodies. They can rotate in and out of their physical. They're gonNa hit you in the mouth. I think they can they show you. They can stop the run with Travis T. ended. I think they've shown you that since Jimbo Fisher took over. L. Came with them a year ago. This defense is good. It's really good. It's much improved year. After year from what we've seen. The bodies looked better. They look more in shape. The Defensive Front seven looks better so I I think Auburn it's going to be Bonex. Is he going to be able to play great. Is He. GonNa it'll be able to throw the ball twenty thirty times because if that's a formula him toward the twenty thirty times. I would like a and I think that has a chance in a big opportunity here to beat up on Auburn and I know Auburn fans are GonNa like that and they'll be upset and Gus Malzahn. We'll probably be on the hot seat the day after they lose for God's sakes because that's the way it works with Auburn coaches. He's but I really favor am here. In a lot of the facets of the game I favor you know and and you haven't even mentioned Kelham on is is he. The the difference in a game like this will not the way of putting its Clemson. A played played really poorly yeah yeah he could be the difference in the RAW igloo. Kellyn people got people went over the top crazy last year when they saw him against Clemson because he played out of his mind he played unbelievable. Got Probably three or four brakes. You'll never get again to some tip passes and some some stuff that happened is direction but he he's GonNa. He's GONNA have to be more efficient in the pocket in and more efficient as a passer and still make those plays with his feet when they're there but I mean Callan Mon- I hesitate if people think he's one of the better quarterbacks in college football. He's not I mean he's still he's still learning and growing. Jimbo's definitely done a good job of making that offense more formidable making him better but you know he's not it. It's not like he's setting the world on fire with completions or touched five touchdowns and three interceptions and it's not like kill completion percentage been through the roof and big plays. He's been through the roof. He's Kinda. He's Kinda okay but against Clemson he was he was not just okay. Turn the ball over. Turn the ball over and you couldn't go down the field and pleaded less less than sixty percent of his passes and just okay so who you got in this matchup. I got a I'm actually the road game. I think road team in this game is won the last five. I WanNa say something done really well. I think it's six of seven right. I think it's six or seven in this series something like that but I I just I. I think I know Oh. The hard part is when you say and M.'s offense versus Auburn's defense because Auburn's defense is still still absolutely filthy still oh really really good and how much does callum on how much does make plays and not turn the ball over the good news is they've seen somebody very physical already. You know they just saw Clemson. They've seen a really good football team. I think I don't think that ever hurts. I think Jimbo Fisher dials up enough offense plays in variety to make big plays to Osborne Osborne and some of those guys on the outside and the height of those wide receivers they come down with a few balls and and they went by seven yeah. I'm with you on that. I think it's going to be a close game and and we'll see the dynamics of both quarterback that you're with me on three picks fight. I know I know exactly but but I'm with you on this and eh one of the reasons why I think location where they're playing and I'm a big fan of Elko so I I look forward to seeing what he does. Try to to kind kind of confused. I don't want to say magazine but but Bo in that environment I'm with you. I am in a very close game. I don't know if about seven points I'm gonNA say around probably probably a field goal and let's make it even more exciting all right the out there. That's what I get out there on a limb. Oh stop it. Come on. Let's get to the big the big game here in Athens your hometown of course Georgia hosting Notre Dame and I want to talk to you a little bit about. We talked about Georgia on Wednesday. I WanNa talk to you about what's at stake here for Notre Dame because you brought up a point about for Clemson hate. Just put them in the playoff. Because who are they gonNA face from here on out. If Notre Dame were to win this game you can make a case the the way the rest of the schedule shakes out that this is this. This has much bigger playoff implications for Notre Dame than Georgia in a match up like this considering that Georgia down the line. We'll get a shot at potentially Alabama for me this is for this is for Brian Kelly Eighty to get in the playoffs if they get over Georgia they have a clear shot to get into the playoff again like last year Stanford. USC Challenge that really look that difficult does it no it doesn't now and when you look at the end of the season two they got Boston College. I think which leak in Virginia Tech which was a so far too has been looking bad but they have Virginia next week which is a good challenge. I think Virginia's a really really good football team tough to play Virginia right after you play physical Jordan Georgia team too but now you're you're absolutely right. They still got Michigan down the road and Michigan. Maybe turns it around but you know this if they lose. They're probably going to be out of the conversation. I think Notre Dame when you're not in a conference. They're going to be a team every because they lost a game. Last year. They would have been behind people they would have been behind a two loss Georgia. Probably they probably legit whatever I mean. That's they have to be undefeated if they're going to get into this playoff the season and so this is this is a huge cat but listen you go down here and beat. Georgia agenda at their place and you slip up to Virginia whose atop fifteen team Virginia loses a couple more games and you you might still be in the mix but if you lose the Georgia when you get curb stomp the Georgia you can you can put the playoffs to bed yeah. Are you expecting to see that. What do you expect to see. I tell you what here's what I expect back to see. Georgia is better almost every position on the field. Georgia has a far superior defensive line. A superior secondary is superior running back a a quarterback that can do. I think you say superior so why should George Washington this game. Be Really close. It's in Athens. I mean just what points leads to this game. They can keep it close. I don't I don't see Georgia should win this game by fourteen point they should they are clearly clearing away the better team so that's a lot of pressure pressure to and that's a lot of to beat a good emas is tough regardless but you're. Georgia definitely has the talent and they're they have the experience all these guys that have been in big games and Kirby's recruited class after class and this is why they came here and I feel like they should be able take care of business close game. No no I mean I don't consider. Do you consider fourteen to twenty one close. No no not at all and I think Georgia should win this game by two touchdowns again but there could it'd be a late touchdown to make it look like it's a fourteen point game but you know it could be one of those things where it's time for three quarters and then Georgia's just continues to dominate dominate I think with the ground game pound and pound and pound so I'm with you again so right now. We're we're lockstep. Four Four Adam actually think Georgia's I think it's going to be a close game up until the fourth quarter and then George is GonNa extend themselves and win by double digits so right now things are not looking good for US pollock. 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This was the matchup it was one of the best matchups and of course the coaches back then in the background and spurrier taking Jabs Tennessee at Florida the the the reason why I bring this up is because the gators coming off a thrilling win against Kentucky where they lose sleep. Franks and Kyle trask now gets the star. We're talking about a guy that doesn't have a lot of Reps but stuck around Dan Mullen. We'll talk about the transfer portal and Kyle Kyle stuck with us. He could've left left what he's stuck with us but kyle is a history of injuries when you look at Kyle trask and you look at him in this offense up against Tennessee in the swamp. What's your first impression. I think first of all the kids so much credit and not just for sticking around and being a team guy because he's shown that too 'cause he could've transferred went somewhere else but how about how about just the the toughness in their ability come in. I mean you still slow this week when he first came in for JT. Dan He didn't look like no. It's hard to not be ready for a moment. Kevin and be inserted in how about being down eleven like just your down eleven. Hey Trust let's get in there and sling the pill around a little bit but unbelievable job being ready at at the gates. You can tell he's got a little ability. He's not he's not as mobile as Franks is. He's got he's got a good arm. You could tell he can throw the football down. The field awesome story story on him was in the athletic this past week of he sat behind the Eric King in in the state of Texas Played High School football and didn't complain didn't transfer Sir always came in and a half and half the people out and came in and always played well just talked to king talked about how he was always the the first one of the building and he pushed him to be better. He's that kind of guy and so very interested to see this fourteen. I think there's a lot of teams Kevin if you point to Alabama. Lsu Georgia yeah all these teams. I can point to oh you. I will not say put in that category. All these teams Texas if their quarterback starting quarterback got hurt. I would say they're done. USC. I said they were done when when jt Daniel got hurt Florida's not done. I don't think takes Florida out of the equation. I don't think Lupe Franks put himself in that kind of category as a guy. That is a baller consistently. He showed flashes but he also should flashes of inconsistency. I think Florida I I think you're GONNA see too by the way I don't think it's just GONNA be trask. I think you're GONNA see Dan. Mullen used creativity US emory his backup. WHO's a freshman a year ago. It got some time but dudes. Dynamic lie can really really run. I think you'll that can't hurt your your run game at all. When you've got a guy that you can enter like that. It hurts hurt your throat game obviously but they need. Tony back healthy as well. He's got the shoulder and he's a guy that can fly and do things in the wildcat and help you run game but this doesn't vary Florida for me. Okay so you're mentioning Emory Jones and and mullins been super high on this kid he's the he's the perfect quarterback in mullins system. The one thing that is stunned on me about Florida is they're not running the ball consistently I mean he's got one hundred twenty yards on the ground but they don't when you look at the town of that backfield they have not been able to be consistent running the football early in the season and you say you got Florida's still. You're not counting them out. Are you talking about the East and the battle against Georgia. What what are you talking about what you're not counting them out. I'm not counting him out to be exactly what I thought. They'd be to be a nine ten one team. I think they have they're. They're not going to beat Georgia. I mean I don't. I don't think anybody thought that some people might have thought that coming into the season but I mean I think they still have the ability to be the second best team in the SEC east and still have a productive season in a productive year for for Dan Mullen those guys. I just don't think offensively offensively. I don't think they're going to be able to be as dynamic as they need to be. Now listen maybe every Jones comes in here and sets the world on fire and everybody everybody and everything changes and Dan Mullen system instant becomes just nuts crazy wilde's freaky good and Freaky Dak Prescott Nick Fitzgerald looking looking offense and things change but I don't. I think Florida's gotTa be good but I don't think they're going to be Georgia. Good all right so I imagine we're going to be five for five here. We're both going gators here. In the swamp. Yes unfortunately dramatic. Pause set it up another matchup and we may differ here. Oklahoma state in Austin against Texas cowboys have won five straight in Austin the longest winning streak ever by any school at Texas and Oklahoma State. They can score some points. How are you looking at this matchup. Well who you got so. You said we might not about telling you I WANNA do Saudi listened at first of all Texas Texas defense does not show me anything and they're backed up in the secondary. There's not show me anything consistently make me believe in them but as long as Sam elegance quarterback I'm going with Texas. I mean they just he's just a tough sucker in just makes things very difficult on offenses and he's just he's he's just everything you want and in that position man and he's not everything you want from a throwing perspective but he's got all the intangibles he's Super Dadgum smart. He's super-efficient. He's throwing the ball already this season better than he has in the past and he's going to continue to in the weapons are. GonNa Continue to develop for this team but I mean as long as you're GonNa give me Sam Etlinger. I'm going to take him. They've got eagle on the outside that starting to develop them and we talked about Johnson and we've talked about WHO's GonNa pick up the slack for little Jordan Humphry but do rene has been on fire. I mean he's showing you some serious ability to take small passes and and go the distance and he's had breakouts and Ingram in the backfield has created. It's some big plays not not a whole lot but he's more than capable of making big plays an eagle in the outside. You saw them against. LSU Big six foot four target that they can catch and make plays. Can you know listen. If you go to Oklahoma state. They can make them place to now. I mean trouble. Hubbard's been amazing. He's got I think he's got almost they almost five hundred fifty yards rushing in in a couple of games this season season for goodness sakes. He's gotten over two hundred twice at a three games and that's crazy and then wallace on the outside touts. He's averaging like twenty nine yards a reception and so so Oklahoma state has the firepower. This is not going to be a low scoring affair but in the end I just have a hard time going against Sam Allender so tell me you're going Oklahoma. Oklahoma state please. I'm not actually and that's the difference because Etlinger can answer back when you look at his numbers eleven touchdowns no picks. I I know that he has the loss or his team has the loss against Lsu but he should still be in the heisman conversation and we're going to learn a lot more about Texas and how they can handle some adversity and with does defense because I think Oklahoma's it's going. It's going to be a shootout. I think that's the one thing that we can guarantee in a game like this. We're not going to see a lot of defense because you mentioned Hubbard Hubbard's been fantastic and they're averaging nearly fifty points a game and now you get a chance to face at Texas defense. This could could be one of those fifty five fifty two games and we're in our third overtime in Austin that that's what I'm expecting. ABC Brian Time. I'm going Oklahoma. State all everything about it. Sanders is amazing Wallace. I mean there's no. They're winning Austin every time they go there. I'm going Oklahoma state. No just just just to go against the way I'm with you. I'm with you what Texas because I know deep down what Texas and you're not. GonNa Argue elders just way too good in a situation like that so we can't escape us. We're going to go six for six. We're GONNA go of six hundred zero this week on our matchups and honestly I think we're GONNA have a lot of answers when it comes to playoff shakeup here when it comes to Georgia Notre Dame and and and potentially Auburn Auburn an and a little bit a little bit more with Michigan. We'll we'll have some. We'll have an idea between Michigan Wisconsin. pollock enjoy enjoy everybody. Come into your house this weekend. Enjoy all the game day stuff and looking forward to seeing you guys on Saturday. You may appreciate it appreciate pollock. Joining us cannot wait for these match-ups coming your way we also want to thank our sponsors allstate and Cintas and a reminder for you on Monday. Our loyal listeners can submit questions that Herbie will answer on the very next podcast Leva five star review on Apple podcast with your questions and the best questions will make the Air Herbie will provide the answers big. 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AP Laboratory - Previewing the Dolphins, Saints and Falcons (Ep. 161)

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AP Laboratory - Previewing the Dolphins, Saints and Falcons (Ep. 161)

"What's up everybody? Thanks for joining us today. This is the AP laboratory. It's a Wednesday edition which means we are doing season previews, and actually this is the last season preview. We will be doing for the year we are going to do the final three teams that we have not touched on. Just because of how the schedule works, there's a lot of repeats because they're in division, so we've got three teams that we're going to be looking at to close out this. Series. We've been doing on the show in here. They'll be do that. Are My dear pals I? Find Him on twitter at chief. In Carolina Matthew, Lane. How are we doing today? Doing. Just checked and I'm still young, still the youngest person, this professor, still feeling good, still vibrant. I am excited to get through all these previews for the season. Unfortunately, I'm a little terrified. What lies ahead I? Don't see a lot of stuff in the future I guess. We're just GONNA have to talk about the twenty one twenty twenty one draft starting next week right greg. Yes, that's exactly what we're going to talk about. I'm going to get into my deep deep deep sleepers at Linebacker, the most important position to have a deep sleep, and because that's you know basically, everybody's beauty f.a.s.t now. We're not doing that before we get started tonight. You guys. We found out today when we were recording this. We have rolled over one million podcast downloads four the year. We haven't finished June yet. Because, you guys, we love you so much. Thank you so much for contributing listening. You guys. Keep this ball rolling especially right now. We don't have a whole lot to talk about, so thank you. Please keep listening. We'll keep making them for you. The cloudless for you guys. has this eight wait wait breaking news? Has This happened before Craig at NBC? Sports affiliate, or is this? Is that the reason that we have cracked million downloads I? I did look into the analytics I did look at the analytics, and the splits between before Craig's was mentioned in football morning in America, and after is jarring Mattie. Nine hundred, Ninety nine thousand downloads since Craig was mentioned in football morning in America. I can only just be like the items downloads you make you start looking at all the other podcast apps and I feel like it's probably going to go through the roof because I mean like the NBC sports. Craig's doubt I made he's. He became an instant celebrity overnight. You guys, thank you so much great. It's never gonNA. Get old ever. I Love I love all of the listeners and I hate can't met. Hey, what if I listened? Figure that one out Craig. Let's talk about week fourteen. The Miami Dolphins. The chiefs traveled to Miami to take on. The Miami Dolphins. What do we think of the quality of the Roster Craig? I am not a big fan of the dolphins roster here. They've tried to kind of turn it around a little bit. They've invested really heavily. I like a lot of the additions that they've made this off season, but they're young, and they're going to really need to play above and beyond what they've got. They got a lot of players on this roster. Their castoffs from other teams that you are super casts off not just like Oh. It's free agent, contract and everything like that. There are guys on here that they traded for that. Just teams didn't want. Want we con-, Assad a little bit last year. When they traded away Minka Fitzpatrick there was rumors xavien Howard wasn't happy because of the quality of the team what they were getting out of it I. don't see a ton changing, and it's going to rely on the entirety of the draft. Make it flip around for me. This roster kind of weird I'd see where Craig's coming from. It's a very young roster and I think that there's plenty of holes that I can poke through on. But going through what this roster looked like just last year this time compared to now it's showing so much improvement like I can very easily pick out double digit like players, and even just out quite a few positions that out excited about if I were dolphins fan, the issue is it just has to come with development from a lot of young guys or new editions, but if you told me that this roster, just the players. Players Looking at coaching, staff or schedule, but this roster with five hundred or even a game or two above I, actually would not be surprised because I think they have a fair amount of quality role players now the star power a lot of positions, but a lot of quality players fill out the roster I think. If you put them all together with good coaching, you really could get about a five hundred team out of. This is like a guilty pleasure team for me with this roster like it's Kinda boring on guilty pleasure territories similar to like the cardinals or the bills in the past bills are just good now, but. I am very fascinated by this roster. And His coaching staff frankly. I Brian Floor is went out and did some surprising things with nothing. Last year we'll get to the coaches in the second, but is sneaky kind of Em- fascinated to watch this football team because I. The roster is interesting to me. I kind of ECHO. Mattie sentiments a lot. I think there are some interesting pieces I think. There's some quality players I think there's like I think there's quality players on this roster. Maybe not superstars, but I'm fascinated to see how this team works especially with to Tagaloa in the mix. What do you think about the staff? I'm just going to start your Brian for us. I think he's done a job I. think Brian Floor just in terms of making the team being the head coach, being the person that kind of organizes everything institutes, a new attitude everything going on around there I think he's done an excellent job I really like Brian Flores in what he's been able to pull off your. We talk about this roster went from nothing to now. You have young talent. Talent you have a defense full of players that fill multiple different positions or roles. These guys are gonNA move around the time. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to pinpoint for any player you know besides your outside corners are going to be a really like that. I think that fits his style so just from top to bottom when you think of a head coach Bill Belichick It's GonNa be the GM and head coach floors is an excellent job. I'd argue the be flow is done the best job of any of the guys that have come out from under bill. Check swing lately because of what they said there the the quality. This roster was awful last year, and he got quality of the roster to play for him like they were actually competitive and games last year because they wanted to play for him win. It appeared like they were trying kind of sell the farm a little bit so that they get to a tagline vote. Vote and be able to rebuild the team with some youth like they have here, but they were able to get results out of. That doesn't happen unless you have a strong Front Office and a strong coaching staff. They got Chan Gailey. They got Josh Boyer. We'll see how that really works out on the offensive defensive side, but I think that they're going to mirror. Be Flow, and it's going to be a competitive team because of that. The dolphins played themselves out of the number one pick. Because of Brian Flores flat out. They were taking. There's no way around it. They were taking. They traded all their players away for picks. And Brian Floor is. Got A lot out of that football team. It's that's partially why they're guilty. Pleasure because I mean this is a better than what what you went five games last year. They won five games last year with not nearly the level of talent. They have this year. And I'm not saying like the town through the roof, but I'm so fascinated and Brian Flores I just I. It's fun to watch. It's fun to kind of see a team. Do what they did last year. Notably. Beating the new, England patriots, and giving the Kansas City chiefs one of the buys. Butts let's talk about new editions. What do you think Craig Gimme a new edition? I'M GONNA go with the former chief from last year. Guy Has a wearing Emmanuel Agua. Listen. Emanuel Osborne had a career year last year. Despite getting hurt, he looked like a completely different player i. know you know the Typical Tarez Paler thing? The contract years undefeated. Emmanuel Ogbonna guests to go down there to Miami, I think we get to see him in a good rotation with a decent set of some defensive lineman here that he can rotate around with. Outside I think he's going to have another good year this year and I'm rooting for him. I've always been in a manual, but fan so good to see him kind of go into rotation where you can do some damage. I also was gonna go with manual Agua so I with Eric flowers x one of the worst busts at offensive tackle of all time to possibly redeemed often have garden Washington. last year has now signed. A big contract with the dolphins played left guard. I watched flowers later in the offseason from later. You're I actually think guard. He looked pretty good. A lot of his weaknesses he shows tackle can be hidden a little better guard, and he has really dominant reps. there was some lapses with move into a new position ages simply being eric. There's always gonNA be mental lapses, but he actually played pretty good overall, and I think he has a chance to. Excuse me solidified the interior of this offensive line and I think he's a guy that could really show a big for the dolphins if he can figure it all out for another year and keep showing progress. a lot went right for the Miami. Dolphins last year. Even though they lost eleven games, they tanked for to tag of allure. One with minimal talent, and still wound up getting to a tag of Loa, and that's my new addition because it's all about him, it really is that the the the dolphins took a swing on one of the best quarterback prospects in the last few years a very solid prospect when healthy. Who hurt us it and probably would have gone first or would have been I to go on second, but wound up going whatever he went. Did he go V? V. It was the fifth pick in the draft. to a if he reaches ceiling, he's a top ten quarterback. If he falls by the wayside due to injury. That's a shame, but I think there's a lot to like about him. Outstanding release he's lethal inside fifteen yards. enough move move ability escape ability that you know. He should be able to to get out of sticky situations. If basically, if they if they stick with him if they land on him, then they really just. They've really accelerated their rebuild. player to watch I. Get I get to to lead this one off. and. This is my chance to lament. The fact that this game is not being played in Kansas. City. Because if it was being played in Kansas City all of us. At Arrowhead that day. COULD DO JUSTICE TO RYAN FITZPATRICK And gave him a standing ovation perhaps. Where some aviators grow out our beards. Maybe you know maybe find an old jumpsuit, and where it to the stadium to to honor fits magic the greatest man in the world the Journeyman quarterback. I dumped on for the large majority of his career, called him terrible in who went on to go and do one of the greatest things that could ever happen to the chiefs when he upset the New England patriots. Ryan Fitzpatrick I. Don't know if you're going to be playing that game. I'm not sure if it will be ready by then, but let me just take this opportunity in in late June to say thank you. I have not forgotten about you I. Love You. I have donated to your charity out of appreciation for what you have done for the Kansas City chiefs and I hope that the chiefs bring you a ring. When they go to Miami to return to the scene of the world championship that. That was a different kind of rant. Swanson just waxing poetic about him. I have mixed it up every now. It's June. I'm ready. We're running out of I D. I was going to talk about my Guy Monterey hard, but they cut him in April. And now he plays for the giants so I'm GonNa go with Matt Brita I. There's not a whole lot of weapons on this dolphins. Their wide receivers are not great. Alan hearns Devante Parker and Albert Wilson like that's not really scaring. Anybody might get. Lucky has a chance to kind of produce the way that people said that he was going to do that, but in reality they're going to be. Kind of relying on to a creating. Jordan Howard and Matt Breda being able to carry the load at Breda. I, think has explosive play ability to go along with to a Tagaloa. I think we're going to see a good version of Matt Breda and if Chan Gailey can get the most out of here, he could be a real weapon in this offense doesn't have a whole lot of. For me at Shack Lawson we talked a little bit about Emmanuel Agua earlier shack. Lawson's going to be one of those guys in the rotation should clearly be ahead of Agua in the rotation to start I wanna see if he can stack up on a good year last year like we've talked about contract years undefeated shack loss and had his best season in its contract. Contract you're got paid well because of it, but it looked like things were starting to click form. I think this is a good defensive scheme for what he does. Well, summer's excited to see how Florez. The dolphins are able to use them, and if he can start to stack up on things, he was showing at the end of his career or individ- time of Buffalo. All Right? We're gonNA take a break. We'll be back to talk about the saints and the Falcons right after this. Continuing the last season preview episodes we have this year. We're doing three teams this week. We just got done doing the dolphins now. It's time to talk about the week fifteen matchup. At the New Orleans Saints. Craig Louis Think about the quality of this roster. This is like a polar opposite from the dolphins. There's not a ton of youth on this saints team, but there's a lot of names. There's a lot of good players on this the they might have one of the best offensive lines to protect drew brees Alva- cameras and outstanding running back. Thom catches a lot of slants, but they have Emmanuel Sanders now, so they've got a true deep threat. I think that they've got a decent to good defense to go along with a very good offense, and they're pretty deep. They've got some guys behind these guys that are slot in i. like some of their depth pieces a lot so I, really like this. New Orleans Saints, Roster yet and for me. I think the big thing that I saw going in here. Here and I was looking. This roster is the secondary looks really good. The Defensive Line linebackers everything was pretty good. Then you keep circling back around. Where's the weakness? It quarterback until you see you know you start looking through the you start looking to the death of in you realize that their backup and their third stringer probably should start, so that makes a roster. Look a lot better rid in all seriousness. I think everyone knows the Saints Really Rosser On a mini rant, Swanson hear. People say this is one of the best in the NFL. They say it's one of the Best I. Sit here and look at it. I, see to receivers worth mentioning. I see an aging tided. That's okay, Alvin Kamara is coming off as lois year. Chew Breeze can't throw the ball over eight yards. What about this offense in the offensive line? Great? But what about this offense makes it one of the best rosters in the NFL like you have a receiver that can only run slants Emmanuel Sanders is equality number two? WHO's the third receiver obey Mike and be scared of Trade Kwan Smith Am I. GonNa be Jordan Humphry. Absolutely not jared cook doesn't leave me. Shake in my boots like your most dynamic weapon. After you add Kamara Thomas, sanders is what taste some hill like that. Does nothing too scary? This roster is not as good as people talk it up to be. It's a lot of vets that are going for one last chance. These guys all on their last chance to wade and I think they put together a good roster I. Just don't get the best in the NFL. Talks to everybody has the saints I really don't Oh my goodness. The atom trautmann slander their Mattie MAIOCCO. Seen as testing. The receiver that only runs slants, so he runs Wow Thomas runs a lot of options out skies. Okay, they're not just slants option routes in there too, or they all the five yards. It's just really easy to pile on him because of his volume, guys. If I stop talking, it's because has come here. Punch me because he is very offended very easily it. Thank said about him. Oh he must be David, Damon or nets, cousin, okay I I don't even really WanNa give a take on the quality of the roster feels like we've already moved on. They've said all the good points. They have one of the best offensive line's football to protect all those quick game out routes. Or slants I, mean sorry. Quality of the staff. Maddie, do you have Sean? Payton, take your waiting to just I do a visceral him with you. I like to go first on the staff because I was talking about the head coach, which is perfect because I think Sean, Payton is one of the most underrated in probably the second best offensive mind through these past decade two decades of NFL football right now behind Andy Reid what he's done with different versions of quarterbacks night I mean like that includes drew brees. You've seen your breeze can throw downfield. You've seen aggressive drew. brees now have checked out. Out drew brees. The what Sean Payton has been able to do with that offense to give him easy open reads consistently to put together quality defensive players to go with a good offensive weapons office. He builds the team very well. He puts drew brees guys into such good positions that I think it inflates how good a lot of people think. Some of the players are for the saints that are GonNa play form that's Kudos Sean Payton for just being one of the better head coaches and I love that. He knows his cockiness is probably my favorite thing about Sean. I think that Dennis. Allen doesn't get enough respect like everybody thinks that you know they are all offense, and that the saints have zero defense in some years under Dennis Allen. That's definitely been the case. They've actually been a lot better the past couple of years. They've actually they've stopped the run. Really well, and they've gotten after the quarterback really well. They've been top five in both of those in. That's under Dennis Allen, so I think he's really done a good job of turning around a little bit of the narrative about this team about how you know, they're just all go and no defense coming from a chief fan now at Bedrick mahomes. It's nice to see you know when teams aren't just all offense like people think the chiefs are kind of make some strides and become a more complete team, and that's kind of why people think that they're a little more dangerous because they are a little bit more of a complete team. Yeah, they. They've really rounded out that that other side of the football really bailing out that drew brees guy I'm just kidding. Why are we like this? Why are we like this? Is it just because it's June I don't know? I think Dennis Allen's done a fantastic job I really do I think he's done a really nice job. Kind of you know. Everybody got some. This Dennis Allen Jokes off early in his career. You know when he was the young hotshot do Doogie Howser head coach that failed miserably, but I think he's actually had some solid stints as a defensive coordinator since all right. Let's talk about a new edition Craig Zach bond how he made it to. The third round is still beyond me I don't know if the NFL just decided that. They didn't know where they were going to play back on I would have been still incredibly happy taking him at thirty. Two like that's a player that I want on my roster. His versatility is flexibility. They have him listed as a weakside Linebacker, but I, I bet you. He's GonNa play. Some SAM is well. We're going to seize. Act Bond. Get to play this year, because frankly, this linebacker core is a little bit beat up and he has the flexibility to fill in more with multiple spots I'm very anxious to seize act bond step on the field and basically justify what we thought of him. Because frankly, he's a damn good player. Player Caesar always for me I. Don't think this is catch anybody surprise, one of my favorite prospects in the entire draft class last year he comes in they immediately ship off a very good offensive, guard and Larry Warford because they know Caesar Reasons GonNa take over part of their starting five I think he's excellent. He could not go to a better offensive line than what he's going. Going here with the saints I mean look at all these guys and how far they've come between from p Eric McCoy Chuck like guys have improved since they got the NFL with the saints, he's only going to get better. You just make a strike even stronger. It's a great pick for them. I just think he's going to be excellent. There and I just like watching plus. There really isn't a ton of new additions to pull from in these two guys just took the two best ones. There's another good wa safety. I had no I. Don't want your help Matt. Why would I want your Hell Tyson? I'm not doing tastes them. I'm going with tastes of two point Oh Tommy Stevens the seventh round. Pick for the New Orleans Saints. Tasted Hill has been put on a pedestal the last few years. Sean Payton things that he's somehow one of the thirty two best quarterbacks in football. And then he went and grabbed his future replacement Tommy, Stevens who might be the he legitimately, they basically are trying to duplicate what they what they have with tasting hill. They're trying to get the next taste and hill in the building and its Tommy Stevens, a good athlete and literally one of the worst quarterbacks. I graded this this this this off season. So maybe the can keep running those formations where they literally do not line anyone in the Backfield, and then one of tastes. Hiller drew brees finally motions backing under center, because that is probably my favorite play in football. Even though every time I see it. It doesn't do much of anything. It's still incredibly enjoyable. Players to watch. Let's go with Mike. Thomas, because there's a little bit too much hate in slander going on for Michael Thomas here just because. drew brees trusts in in any situation in you know any any level of coverage. We're going to slander this man's name. Iconic just WanNa maybe acknowledged that some of us on this podcast might have had him in the top twenty. In the draft when he was taken in the second round. I'm Mike Thomas Fan. Yes, he runs a lot of the same stuff. I'm not gonNA argue that, but he's really good at it and he's really productive. I'M GONNA. Go with the only right tackle that I think you could put on the same level as Mitchell Schwartz. Rhyme Ramczyk Ryan Ramczyk is an awesome tackle, and he just blows holes wide. Open for Alvin Kamara he protects drew brees ridiculously well on an elite offensive line. He is an amazing player that shines on it so I think that he's really fun to watch, and I think that you know cheese fans kind of appreciating the lack of love. The Mitchell Schwartz gives Ryan Ramczyk kind of has a similar lack love there on the right side, the Lane Johnson slander. So I'm GonNa go with James Winston because I really do think drew. BREES is nearing the end of his career like I am half joking with some of the debris slander on the other hand. I'm not because watch him. He got outplayed as a quarterback by TATUM. Hill in their playoff game, because he'd literally can't throw a football, more than eight yards drew, brees is on the cusp of a peyton manning breakdown in Sean Payton is. Is keeping them alive a little bit better naked do in Denver for Mayonnaise, but it's coming and I really don't believe that tastes hills the answer quarterback I. Don't think the saints do either James Winston is there as long as he can see now after lasix like he really could get shot, and if he gets the jump in there with this offense of wider roster, I'd like to see what he can do with some really coaching. Do you know what's going to happen. Matty drew brees and Tom Brady are both both gonna go full peyton manning breakdown. And then this that we're about to talk about. It's going to sneak in and win the division. How's that for a transition? The Atlanta Falcons come to Kansas. City, Week Sixteen Your NFC East or NFC South Champions for twenty twenty is really good at predicting it up. See teams guys long live the. I. Limb here to say that the new. Orleans saints are going to finish wear in the draft. Now I. I'm not doing it. I, just I thought it was a good transition. I thought I'd go with it and get a little joke in there. I've learned my lesson kind of. Let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons. They come to Kansas City Week Sixteen Craig. What do you think of the quality of the roster man? This roster old you guys. It really is like you start scanning through like wow, a lot of these guys have been in the League along time, and then the ones that haven't like Calvin Ridley and Hayden hers are old. They they they really have a very aged roster. AIDS heading. Aged roster I i. think that the Roster Still Pretty Decent Matt Ryan is a severely underrated quarterback. They still have Julio Jones Kevin. Ridley is a good player I think that they're going to be able to put together a pretty good offense with Todd Gurley even though he's probably on a breakdown halfway through the season, but I also think that the defense is a little bit lacking here and they do have Bob. Sutton stills a defensive state assistant so. That will take your. Take your shots now on all of that stuff. They do have some names on this, but they're kind of middling names here, so I'm a huge falcons fan as far as the quality of their ostrogoths. Called the Saints Roster the opposite of the dolphins, but I actually think this falcons roster is because it's very old in not a lot of exciting players on their like all of the people that are exciting. We've known. They've been exciting players for years. There's no up and coming citing flavors. That's all old guys like none of their young players. Strike me a super fun to watch. Guys on. The chiefs aren't point that I want to tune in to see. It's not a bad roster I. Just don't think they drafted. Drafted exceptionally well I think they've drafted a lot of quality players. Not a ton of high impact is in when you're kind of leaning on Matt Ryan Who Jones to carry your whole team. I think you need something a little bit more dynamic that Todd Gurley or Calvin Ridley behind them, and then just defensively. You haven't had a huge playmaker to pay Dion Jones in a while, and you go out and get Aj Terrell like I don't know if that's the Kinda guy that you're gonna put their with them. The roster overalls unexcited very bland. Yeah, I was GONNA call plant. Oh thanks just. Literally lasted page. They are that's your word. That's your word all the time. You use the word Beige all the time. yeah I. Mean I, I tend to agree I mean this. This is a very homegrown team largely. and. I mean they've brought in a few free agents, but it's nothing like. Ultra exciting. Dante Fowler Junior even like I consider him a splash signing I know that sounds weird, but like I think you just kind of like. He had relatively productive year, but I. Don't think he's particularly good and I think they definitely overpaid. So I mean I'm not a huge fan this roster. At all. Really, let's talk about the the quality of the staff. Matthew so the Falcons without and brought back Dirk Qatar last year, and he's there. He is now back there I don't think the offense looked particularly better last year with him back in the mix, but at the same time you start to see some of the concepts come back to life that he had used before with them when he adult earlier in his career, some of the stuff that made him a little appealing to get that. That head coaching gig in Tampa. I think there's some talent. There I think that he can rekindle some of that fire. He had with Matt Ryan Julio Jones Before I. Think you'll find a way to use. These guys are the best of their ability, just like you said similar to the roster. The coaching staff is also very bland to me as well. There's guys are good, but no one super exciting. They seem like they've had the same guy or recycled. The same is for about ten years now. Yeah, their defensive coordinator is Ricky Morris remorse has been kicking around the League for a long time now, but he hasn't had a ton of higher level jobs. He did coach the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers for about three years years at the end of the decade. But he's basically been bouncing around as a wide receivers slash descent defensive backs coach. It's kind of one of those situations where you see. Is that have a little bit of not nepotism, but a buddy situation like we've seen with Andy Reid the past where you end up keeping a guy in house and assigning him a position just because you'd like, have him on your staff. That's what it feels like. He's the coordinator here. They did get better towards the second half of the year as a defensive backs coach last year, but I have a lot of questions about Raheem. Moore's being the defensive coordinator with Falcons. It's always inspiring win. Year almost fired. Your entire staff almost fired. And then they get another year like that is always just really inspiring, a real vote of confidence and that's the case for Dan Queen. And Thomas Dmitrov were almost on. They're on the way out because they started abysmally. They picked it up in the second half of the year. We're GONNA find out pretty quick here, what was real and what was not with this roster, I! It could go either way. It looks like nine and seven to. Five and eleven I mean it could really go either way for me all right? Let's talk about a new edition, Craig. I'm going to go with the guy that maddie mentioned ha terrell the first round. Pick this year. It Israel's a guy that we liked. He was fine like we would have been excited to have him as chief. You know he's. He's a typical Clinton Corner. He does a little bit of everything well. He's not exceptional at anything, but he's going to be a guy that can slot in from day one. He's A. A smart player, he's got good enough. Ball skills to really kind of run any sort of scheme that they want him to, so. I think he's going to start. They don't really have a ton of guys in that secondary to really dethrone him. Maybe Kimball Sheffield Jordan, Miller. These guys aren't really inspiring names from last year. So I think Aj is going to get the first crack at. He's GonNa Start immediately. I think I found the perfect new initiatives to define everything about this team on Treadwell. I don't think could have play with any less. Any lower expectations, but also knowing that he probably does belong somewhere in the league much like the Falcons in Kent just said they could be anywhere from five win to like eight nine win team. It's not going to surprise anybody. That's kind of feel about the quantum treadwell. I think it's a good situation for him. He goes into a good wide receiver room. Maybe a little less attention, mean he did come from Minnesota, with good wide receivers, but just a change of scenery at quarterback, a little bit more willing to throw him contested balls and Matt Ryan. Maybe he can finally turned it around. Craig. Do you know who the first pick in the two thousand eighteen draft for the Baltimore Ravens was? Yes I do I believe it was a tight end before Lamar. Jackson named Hayden hearst. That also might be forty eight years old now. Yeah, you've just completely. Yeah, no, you got it exactly right? The Baltimore Ravens believed in hidden her more than they believed in Lamar Jackson. They passed on Lamar. Jackson wants to draft Hayden. Hearst who is already out of the building and is already going to be twenty seven years old next year when he plays in a game, the the the Ravens in all of their organizational wisdom that they have decided to take a guy that is all. It literally might be done after his rookie contract. There's going to be debates about whether or not he's going. Going to be done after his rookie contract, and they've already traded into the Atlanta Falcons now. The reports are that despite being thirty seven years old already, he's actually moving. Really well in that Ryan is a fan of his athleticism. We're going to find out if someone that age is able to run with any great level of consistency, Hayden. Hearst is my new edition and my player to watch is Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley. Later year two players that have approximately half a knee between them. Well, I think Hayden's got the half. I'm curious. I'm going to try to be serious. I was really to pivot from being a kind of a jerk to this, but. I'm fascinated to see if if. If if Todd Gurley is playing at this point I, think you know if he's running. This late in the year. That's a good sign for him. That's a good sign for the rest of his football career. Because the chiefs play him. They play him lately week sixteen if he's getting run. At this juncture that means he's held up. That means that the Ravens of or the CEA Ravens on the mind, the Falcons of trusted him that he's been able to continue to prove when he's healthy, he's one of the better running backs in football, and unfortunately there's been arthritis in his knee. Arthritis is no joke. Arthritis I know what it's like. It's a mess so I'm I'm hoping girlies playing in week sixteen, so we can see him and see you know, see version or close to the version of the guy that we were used to. I'm going to go with another new edition. Marlon Davidson. We didn't talk about him in the previous thing. I liked Marlon Davidson. We saw at senior bowl I thought he moved really well for defensive tackle. He was playing a little bit lighter they're. He showed up at the combine and wait a lot more. He's going to play defensive. Tackle for this team and I think that they need it. They have Grady Jarrett their grady. Jarrett is a heck of a player, but they don't have anybody kind of opposite him to kind of take. Take some of the pass rushing double teams away I think we're GONNA see Marlon, Davidson, get a lot of sub package work and I really like his first step. I liked the violence that he kind plays with his hands, so I, think he he could be a successful player because he's just not going to see a ton of double teams I think they're going to be a lot more one on one opportunities, and because he's a rookie. I think especially early on in the season. We might see him develop into a contributor immediately. I'm GonNa Talk About Youth in and guy. It's even younger than I. Am so I know he moves incredibly well very pliable. Very Quick Hayden. Hearst tied in just. The Baltimore Ravens. I really liked in hers coming out of South, Carolina. Actually I think kit makes one of his age lot, and he's definitely older prospect I. Don't remember liked him that much as a player I think he was okay with. Them, but I love. I like to loved Hayden hearses a play I think he can do a whole lot. You had to teach them how to block a little bit, and I think that was the issue that he ran into at the Ravens. Was it when they first got him? They tried to turn him into a traditional kind of widened in. It wasn't working out like wanted. He was banged up when Mark Andrews, Roldan. Who had this connection with Amar Jackson? He was just kind of cast out there. I think put him into. Into Austin Hooper mean like awesome. Hooper just got paid the highest money for a tight end. ARE WE GONNA? Pretend that awesome hooper significantly better than Hayvenhurst. Absolutely not yes hated her. She's going to have a good year for the Falcons. He is going to produce. He is GONNA come at. He's GonNa make plays underneath. After the catch event retarded cly, he made the a very very spry, twenty seven. He may be three to seven years younger than t may be fourteen to eighteen years younger than Craig style, but Still Ready to go, he is young. He is ready to make noise with Julio Jones Calvin Ridley, and yes, the taking all the attention away from him. This isn't the first time that the Falcons of acquired an aging tight end. True. Tony Gonzales was not. Pliable. The eight, not any team his required in aging end I feel like every team has probably done that at some point in time in their franchise's history, but nonetheless yeah, well well Tony. G said that the Falcons really made his career. Let's hope that's the case for and hearst. That's going to do it for this week's episode. Thank you guys so much for listening. 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RTCD #164: Week 7 Preview

The College Draft with Ross Tucker

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RTCD #164: Week 7 Preview

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Code one, they strike and listen to Russ Tucker, and Philadelphia goes film junkie Francey breakdown the top college prospects on another tasty edition of the college draft. Yes, it is daddy soda time, and it is hard to believe. We're going into week seven of the college football season. He is Fran Duffy the video scouting guru for the Philadelphia Eagles at f Duffy three on Twitter. I'm at Ross, Tucker, NFL on Twitter and Instagram, longtime, NFL, offensive lineman. Now I got a bunch of podcasts including this bad boy where we get to talk about the week that was in college football from a prospect standpoint, as well as the week that will be friend. Let's get right into it. It feels like the biggest game of the weekend was Texas, Oklahoma. What did you see there. I mean, it was certainly the most pertaining one that I watch. I watched a good amount of that game, and there were a few guys that really stood out to me on Saturday afternoon Rossio from Oklahoma standpoint. They've got a ton of speed on offense. I mean, Cuyler Murray, the quarterback. I don't think he's gonna play in the NFL. He's going to go ahead and be a baseball player if if he's smart about it, but this kid can absolutely fly the long touchdown late in the fourth quarter, third down, I forget if that tied the game or if that brought them within a touchdown. But my wife and I are watching the game together and she couldn't believe what she saw either. I mean, the kids just got some wheels. He had a turnover in this game that was really bad, really unfortunate trying to brace himself going to the ground under pressure in the pocket, and he coughed up the football, but he was pretty impressive. And the game, Hollywood Brown and CD lab. Those guys can fly to as receivers on the outside and in the slot. And you'll Lincoln Riley really knows how to leverage the speed of those two guys. They just got they have so much speed to the point where you know my wife was asking, how can we change the channel once. Texas was up three score, and I told her, I said, you know, not yet because these guys can come back at any point and they certainly did that Oklahoma ties the game, but you gotta give a ton of credits, Texas, man. I mean, they did not flinch. Sam etlinger the quarterback for Texas. He had a good game, big, strong, kitties, thick. They relied on him in the quarterback run game. He converted on a number of short. Yardage plays in the middle of field is a well as a number of touchdown runs as well. I thought Texas won both sides of the line of scrimmage to me that was one of the big keys to victory. Oklahoma, they've got an impressive defensive tackle Neville Gallimore whose long and explosive Canadian kid who's really getting his first taste of long-term action. But overall, I thought Texas one on both sides. We've talked last week about char- who the defensive end for Texas and how excited I was to see him in this game. I thought he really showed up stat sheet only had three tackles and a sack for him. But he he kept getting his name called. He was so disruptive upfront in the run game in the past game. You know, I don't. Who long term is going to be a high pick. I don't think he's going to, you know, be like this big time, double digit sack guy in the NFL. But I do think that he's gonna stick for a while in the league. You know, he's got great length. He can win at the point of attack. He's got a high mode or he plays with a ton of urgency. There's a lot to like they're on the outside for Texas little Jordan. Humphry certainly stood up. But Colin Johnson is the big name that a lot of people are excited about. I haven't done a deep dive on it, but he's a big kid made some nice contested catches. He did a nice job in the quick game of winning one on one on a couple of those slant routes for crucial situation catches there in the middle of the field. That's the kind of player. I think he'll be in the NFL. I haven't studied Johnston yet, but just watching him on TV over the course of his career. I don't really think that he's kind of a game breaker that's gonna win down the field, but more looks like a salad possession receiver. He's six, six, two hundred twenty pounds. He's a big kid. I thought he showed up in this game. So overall it was it was a really fun to watch the Red River. Shootout did not disappoint for sure. I can't remember what game it was that I was watching earlier in the season friend and I should've tweeted this, but I really think Mary might be the fastest quarterback I've ever seen and the guys that come to mind or Michael Vick RG three, Lamar Jackson, and I don't know if you would run a fast forty time like those guys, but he looks that fast. I mean, he is absolutely electric out there. It's really, really impressive when you watch what he's able to do. What about what about some other games? Anything. Anything from Notre Dame Vitek. Yeah, I kind of bounced around a little bit throughout the rest of the night and the rest of the afternoon. Yeah. Watch the Notre Dame VO tech a little bit. You know who you know who stood out. We've talked about Jerry Taylor who I think physically this kid's study at four sacks last week against Stanford, senior defensive tackle great run defender who coming into the season. I thought had athletic upside to be a pass rusher but seems to have. Put it all together from technique standpoint and also from a motor stamp point when it comes to getting after the quarterback, the issue, he's been really productive. Yeah, he stood out the linebackers tavon Coney drew tranquil those guys plenty of town. They stood out, but the junior pass rusher Khalid Corinne you know, he had a sack fumble in this game that was taken back for a score kind of a critical play. That helped turn the tide. I haven't done a deep dive on him yet, but he's flashed every time. I've watched the Irish this year from week one against Michigan all the way up until this week against Virginia Tech. So he certainly stood out to me in this game a guy that I'm excited to watch moving forward. I watched a little bit of Auburn, Mississippi State as well. We've talked about this little bit Russ, but both quarterbacks of this game jarred stood him for Auburn, Nick FitzGerald, Mississippi State. I have to watch more film of both these guys from this year, but I don't know. I just don't know if either of them is a guy that we're going to be looking at his big time prospects whenever they do declare Nick FitzGerald is a senior. So he certainly going to be in this draft to, but stood them. Just holding onto the bots who long and clutch moments. The BAAs gotta come out quicker FitzGerald. On the other hand, you know he's got a hang in the pocket of bit longer just watching TV, even you could just see that the I read if it's not there, he drops his eyes. He's looking to run like I said, FitzGerald, senior, he's going to be in this class. I hope he decided to go back to school. I mean, people are going to argue that he's not going to get better for the NFL and auburn's offense. Yeah, that's that's a fair point. But I think you need to master that offense. If you're going to be a high, pick like that scheme can make things so well defined for a quarterback with what they do with misdirection in the run game. It's very well defined reads, they opened things up to the point where short you may only throw twenty times in a game twenty five times, but you should be going if you're a top-flight quarterback prospect that offense, you should be going nineteen and twenty five. You should be going sixteen of twenty. And I, I'm not box scores scouting Rosso you know that, but cinnamon that offense the way that they play the way Gus malzahn plays. He that's a QB friendly offense. He should be completing sixty. Of his passes every week. If he is that big time guy, we've seen guys like Shaun white, Jeremy Johnson, and Nick. Marshall other quarterbacks in that scheme, put up similar numbers and everyone will say, oh, well, his numbers aren't worse than that. Yeah, but none of those guys reviewed as big time quarterback prospects if you're gonna view Jarrett stidham as being that guy as being a top fifteen top twenty pick in that scheme, which is much simpler than what he's going to be running at the NFL. He should be completing passes at a higher rate. He should be putting up bigger numbers just overall. I mean, that's just kinda the surface level thing, withstood them just watching them on film last year. I saw some of those red flags as well. Doesn't look like they've gotten better so far. I mean, the numbers this past week obviously weren't great and just looking at of, I'm just not sure that he's going to be that guy at the next level. I haven't seen it yet. I'm hoping he goes back to school for another year, feels like he's been pretty disappointing. I know our guy Dane burglar at the athlete. You know how to piece recently about some disappointing SEC quarterbacks instead them as a guy can just tell on Twitter that he's not real high on what I am high on friend dose equities. Number one, it's beer. Number two, their commercials are hilarious. Number three, they are genius date sponsor the Ross Tucker football podcast, and the college draft podcast. That's all you need to know about their beer. Plus they keep it in Tara Sante this college football season because they are the official beer sponsor of the college football playoff. 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I'll tell you the one guy that did stand out was Jakob polite when I was live from Florida, and then even seen some of the clips that are going around on Twitter from him is really, really impressive. I'm excited to dig into his phone. That's what I was gonna say. So first of all, a couple of things stand out to me right. You know, I'm not one of those like I am not one of those SEC bang the drum for the SEC guys. But first of all, nobody gets hit. SEC quarterbacks get hit. Is this year's those guys get annihilated fully bay Franks and Joe borough. We're getting it. So it's not even like not even a consideration of Bellamy. It just it's it's hilarious. They both. I was watching Martinez Ivy and it's interesting as watching him. I was thinking about him and Mitch high it and kinda surprising. You know, both those guys are seniors and both those guys playing in the US army bowl, and they were the top two hundred tackles in the country. And I remember talking with you about them. I think they both started since they were true, freshman. It just kind of interesting that neither one of them, you know, felt like they were good enough to leave after their third year, and maybe we've set the standard to hi Fran, but that was just what I was thinking about watching Martinez Ivy. He was getting physical. He was finishing and trying to be a bully with the LSU d. line which I liked to mazing how many of the corners look like what you want your corners to look like in that game, but your guy. I don't remember us talking about before the season, his change of direction and his movement skills. He doesn't look like he's very heavy polite, but while he he is impressive. How big is he offhand? And I don't know off the top of my head, but here's what I do know he so he's not a like every week starter for them. It seems like he's the guy that's of coming off the bench and playing and pass, rush situations which look that we've seen. We've had this discussion with before with guys like Tim Williams and guys that are built that way. That's great. And if you've got that one trick, if you've got the ability to get up field to get after the quarterback, I think that that will serve him. Well, I'm just excited to just got to get into the film and just see what he does look like as a run. Defenders. Florida does have a lot of town on that d. line. So if he's not starting because they like these other guys more, you'll be able to hold up a little bit better and he does compete in the run game. Then that will go a long way with me if he just looks like he's a non-participant in the run game. I will be a little bit worried that being said, I mean that first step, his accelerate his ability to exceleron running the hoop is rare like that. There are a couple of clips that I've seen where you know he's just he's able to win with that. First step turn the corner, and then just like a race car at top speed just fly around the hoop to the quarterback is really, really impressive. Greg McElroy from ESPN just posted a shot yesterday from this game to where he's able to win inside. And to me, like if you've got the ability to win both outside and inside a tackle, doesn't know which way you're going. I mean, you could speak to that like, that's when you've won as as as a pass rusher. If you've got the ability to win both ways at a high level, you've got the speed rush, and then he's got a wicked spin inside spin move and newly. That's all you need. If you free any, you know, it helps toyed Freenet surprising power to, but really if you're just fast you an inside spin move and you get enough power that you really put in off at the tackle in a bad spot and to your point the Notre Dame Virginia Tech game as well. You mentioned Jerry Tillery. They were disappointed in him. I could tell when I was there for in the spring game a couple of years ago, but he's gotten a lot better. I thought he would end up on the offense of line, but he's gotten better. The other guy that stood out to me again, watching that game. I think he actually is draft eligible. I don't think it'll happen. I want you to check out Damon Hazelton the wide receiver from Virginia Tech at some point, really impressive. Physically, he's from Baltimore was like a five, ten running back who went to ball state. And now he's like six, three to fifteen wide receiver head a big true freshman year at ball state. So big that he's like I'm transferring. And now he's clearly Virginia Tech. Receiver. I'm thought that was pretty impressive. I was at the Fordham Georgetown game, which is funny because Bill Polian was there because his granddaughter goes to Fordham. So we were talking about four forty minutes a tight end. That's pretty good. Georgetown has a defensive lineman, Christian Tate, who's a junior who is hill end up getting a shot. He's a three technique. I think all the way they thought maybe even a fullback. He's a little salt off like six foot two, two, probably six one to eighty five. But he reminds me of like three technique defensive tackle, but Fordham has a tight end is as right, and he had three really, really nice catches where he used tremendous body control number one for Fordham. So that's kind of my my FCS scouting report of the week. What about the news about Miami wide receiver? Amman, Richard really, really stinks, just terrible and. Just terrible. I look the kid's been battling a bunch of injuries the last couple of years and we didn't. We haven't heard anything about the neck, but you know, I think it was a hamstring he's dealing with this year. Last year was ankle and knee stuff. He burst onto the scene as a freshman and was so so talented and I went back and watched this film last year. And even though he missed a bunch of time with injuries, you just saw the talent there. I mean, it was a big kid who could run you showed flashes route one or super competitive. Great. Blocker really just showed a lot of urgency with everything he did, whether it was as a route runner going up eating at the catch point. There were some drops. There were some inconsistent play and the production wasn't always there, especially over the last year and change, but this kid had loads of talent. So obviously the health is most important. I'm glad that they caught the condition before it became even more disabling, but certainly terrible news from the. What about some other guys you've watched? I've got Akron at UB on Saturday at noon on CBS sports network, which is convenient. 'cause you get a chance to check out Anthony Johnson recently, right? Yeah. I watched him in the summer and I kinda I, we talked about this wide receiver for UB by the way for the listeners. Exactly. So he's the wide receiver and he was like first team. All MAC last year was his first year as a starter, and he just ripped it up with production like his numbers were so crazy, especially an a second-half last year, like they were things really click. I would say this year he's been a little bit kind of in and out of the lineup because of injuries. I think he's dealing with a hamstring as well. So he's we kind of in and out of the lineup, but I watched a couple of games this year and just knowing how I felt coming into the year. This is just kinda feel like this. This is a kid that's got pretty good size. I mean, he's he's only six foot six one, but he's I think he's like two twenty. Like he's. He's really thick. He's strong and that shows up on film. I think what I watched Johnson. I see a guy who could play the ball on the air. You know, I mentioned that strength. He's a big physical kit. It can out-muscle kids at the catch point. But you know, in terms of his speed, his quickness is overall athleticism. I think that that's a big question Mark for me. You know, he still works in a dropper to that. I'd like to see come off the board. I'd say the big thing though overall that I really liked in the game that I watch from Johnson this year, and these are the kinds of things that stick with scouts playing on the road at temple just across the street here in south Philly. Third and ten twenty nine yard line a minute left in the game. He came in motion to the slot and he ran a quick slant from the right side. He broke a tackle at the twenty five and he raced across the field of power throw tackle inside the five to the pylon touchdown. They win the game. It was oppressive just to see him. Come up big in that moment, and those kinds of clutch plays do count and a little bit more and stick in the minds of evaluators a little bit more. I do have questions about Johnson athletically. There are times on watching them, especially with the ball in his hands. He almost looks like an undersized tight end the way he moves. But there is something there. Hopefully he could just get healthy just finish out the season strong. I'm excited to see what you think from when you get to see him in person. Just, you know the the quickest standpoint and the ability to create separation on the outside. That's a, that's a major question for me for him right now is AOL as he guy that can line up outside every down and win, or does he going to be more of a rotational guy or an inside slot, big slot guy and be that type of matchup guy. That's something that I'll be looking at. Get that question answered over the next eight months and I'll be looking for you guys to check out the new show on the CW. So I like drama. I like TV shows when I get chance to watch them. And yes, you know, I love football and that's why I'm checking out CW new show all American. 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So my number one, senior quarterback drew lock big tests this week they go and they take on Alabama and they've got a loads of talent at all three levels. I mean, whether you're looking up front at rake, Lon Davis, the junior defensive tackle who's just a freak show, kinda reminds me of deforest Buckner type of player, like in terms of style, Anthony, Jennings off the edge pointed Williams. I haven't studied this kid Quentin Williams yet a nose tackle there, but he's getting a lot of buzz now is AM bugs at defensive end is kind of a Jonathan Allen type kind of a Squatty defensive tackle who can light up a number of different spots and win. And then you look at linebacker. MAC Wilson, you know, his eyes are a little bit slow, but he is an explosive athlete. It looks like Reuben foster in the open field. He's just doesn't see things like Reuben foster did at the linebacker level when he was at Alabama and the Deontay, Tom. The free safety. They've got a young secondary there, but Thompson shows up weekend and week out with his range and his ability to play the ball in the air. So I'm excited to to kind of watch, drew lock against the scene. We watched him against Georgia a few weeks ago, and you saw his supporting cast was kind of overmatched expect that to be the case on Saturday, but it just interesting to see how he matches up against that unit out west. Justin. Herbert obviously is the guy that a lot of people feel would be QB one. There's just a lot of buzz about him. Just he's going that he would go back to school. So we'll see if he does decide decide to enter into this class, but big test this week against this Washington defense, namely that secondary because they've got a ton of talent Byron Murphy as a redshirt, sophomore, who's getting a ton of buzz as a potential first round pick if it went, he does decide to enter the NFL Taylor wrap it safety is a guy that I've heard a lot of good things about Jordan. Miller's, a senior who was on the senior bowl, watchlist is a very talented secondary as is usually the case there in Washington. So good test there for Herbert with. Oregon, Vanderbilt, go back to the Vanderbilt. They take on Florida. So we'll see Jakob polite and the rest of that Florida defense. They've got some talent up front there for the Gators going up against Vanderbilt quarterback, Kyle sherpa. This is a good test for him. The senior quarterback four year starter, the son of giants quarterback are giants. Head coach, Pat Shurmur. We'll see what he's able to do their against the Gators and then starting to hear a lot of our buzz. Continuing about this kid, Stephen Montanez from Colorado, you know, he's, he's put up big numbers this year. They're starting to win some games and they go up against the US kind of like the buffaloes in this game going up against the leg supporter Gusta and camp Smith biggie Marshall at quarter marvel. Tell at safety. A lot of draft eligible players a lot of senior talent for USC. So good test there for Colorado quarterback Stephen Montanez in this in this matchup. What about some of the running back linebacker matchups this weekend. Yeah, we'll stay in the big ten and AO. Michigan takes Wisconsin, Karen Higdon and Chris Evans, for I know Chris Evans has been banged up there kind of hoping that he'll be back and fully healthy for this game. But Karen has been putting up some nice. Some nice performances here so far is a senior. I don't think that he's a supreme athlete. He's not the biggest or strongest honor. He started last season as the third string back and kind of worked his way into the role. He's got now, but to see what he looks like against a senior Laden Wisconsin defense, and they've got talent at all three levels as they always do at linebacker. I love TJ Edwards, a guy that I feel could be three down player in the NFL. I know a lot of people like his teammate right next to him in that three or four steam Ryan Connolly. So both those guys matched up against these Michigan running backs. I feel be really interesting and then Michigan state and Penn State. You got LJ Scott who I think has been into that. He's been in and out of the lineup, and I, I know they're kind of hoping he's going to go. If he does go, that's going to be the big test for Penn State and this front seven, you know, we know about felt David. The wide receiver he came through big for Michigan state this past week, but. Scott is in the game. He's the guy that you have to account for. I'm excited to hear what you think about that matchup how those two sides kind of face off your this weekend. Well, I would have told you before that. I thought it was a major concern for Penn State. Their run defense has not been good this year. They were okay against a high of state. They're coming off of a bye and last year, the worke absolutely lit them up. I mean, it's amazing Penn State last year lower-key and j. t. Barrett. I would say both guys had probably the best game to their career against him. I don't know what that says about Penn State. They're really hurting for depth the defensive tackle the even switched over an offense of lineman. So I think that's going to be a good matchup and Michigan state's had enough issues throwing the ball this year that I think that they'll try to lean on that offense of line and they'll try to pound Penn State and also keep the ball out a trace McSorley hands. So that's going to be the key matchup in the game. Glad you highlighted. What about some wide receiver tight ends against DB's friend? Yeah, we'll start in the big twelve and we talked last week about Texas corner, Kris Boyd a little bit on the shorter end. He's not a supreme athlete for the position. I do worry a little bit about his recovery speed, and his boss skills are a little bit up and down, but good matchup this week against Baylor and these two receivers, you know, Denzel mims guy. A lot of people are high on, but you know Ross a few years ago, you and I, we talked a lot about Jalen Hurd the running back from Tennessee. He was there with Alvin Kamara, and then he decided to leave the team mid season. He transferred out there were issues with the coaching staff and Butch Davis. So he left went to Baylor, had to sit out last year now he's a receiver, and there is a buzz on the scouting trail about this kid. I mean, at the end of the day, he's six four. He's to twenty. He's going to test like a freak show in the spring. I don't know that he always plays to it, but it'll be interesting. I haven't studied him yet it receiver I'm excited to kind of dig into a good test here against this Texas defense and an opportunity for both mims and. Heard to kind of get on the national stage with everybody talking about the longhorns. So that's an interesting match up to watch in that game. You go to the SEC Georgia takes on LSU so that talented receiving corps for the BULLDOGS Terry Godwin's a senior to meet your s- Robertson the transfer from cows at junior. You have the younger Ridley brother, all these guys going up against LSU greedy Williams obviously can't cover all three, but watching how he matches up against this group. I think we'll be an interesting game within the game there in that matchup and then go to the two matchups to watch here. Louisville takes on Boston College in Louisville, they've got the senior wide receiver Jalen Smith who a lot of people were really high on the Spriggs. Some people had him in the first round of mock drafts. I don't see him as that kind of talent, but certainly a guy that can make waves in the Strath. I do think they can be kind of an early day three selection and Boston College. They've got to senior safety, so those guys will be charged with trying to match up with him at least over the top. And then also when he does side of the slot because both of those guys will line up over the number two or number three receiver at time. So Lucas. Dennis, and we'll Harris from Boston College. The two names to keep on there with Louisville wodge Seaver, Jalen Smith. And then for Jinya verse Miami, we talked about Miami last week in that match up with Florida state. I like the senior corner, Michael Jackson, and then Sheldrick red wine is the free safety there. He's a senior as well. Red wine will match up on slot receivers at times, and that's where you're gonna find Allama day zacchaeus from from Virginia. He's at under-sized slot guy. He's got some quick this. He's not truly dynamic. He's not explosive, but he is a guy who's got quick to send out a breaks. He's a former running back as well. So good after the catch there. Some toughest there with this kid. I kind of liked what I saw from zacchaeus. I think he's going to be an NFL player. So when you watch that batch, that's an interesting little battle there to watch in the slot between Michael Jackson red wine, and then also zacchaeus, most importantly, Olin d line frame. What are you got a match up that you and I have been really looking forward to since the summer and that's Wisconsin. Verse Michigan, this Wisconsin, offensive line Mike. Deiter David Edwards, Ben Shaul. I mean, all those guys up front for the badgers going up against this Michigan defensive line and chase win Avik the high motor senior off one side shot. Gary missed last week. He gets Maryland, but they're hopeful that he will play this week against the badgers. I think he probably could have gone last week Gary, but they were hoping to just kind of hold them off. Make sure that he was good to go against this this badgers team. So this is going to be a fun match up to watch. In the trenches. I guarantee you every play every time. Any evaluator goes to watch anyone from either side of the ball, they're going to go to this game, whether if they're watching Michael or they're going to see how did he do against one of Gary and vice versa. This is going to be a big matchup for all those guys in the trenches in that game, you look at Alabama, Missouri as well. I could say the same thing for Terry Beck near the defensive tackle from zuri. He's got some holes in his game, but going up against Alabama. That's an opportunity to kind of prove your wares. How is he gonna look against Lester cotton in Ross Pierce Spock or the rest of that into your Alabama, offensive line, and then staying in the SEC Zack. Bailey is a guy that I like he's out his natural position of guard going up against Texas a. and m. they've got those talented emptier guys Dalen MAC as well as they've got a senior down there as well. So keep an eye on that matchup for that game. Love it. I am very, very fired up. 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Bobby Petrino fired for...being bad (at his job) - Week 11 Review

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Bobby Petrino fired for...being bad (at his job) - Week 11 Review

"Whoa. Actually, I got let someone else take this one. Go ahead. L come chat bound folk outs. My name is Bobby poor treatment, and I don't have a job anymore. So we're not going to be crashing you here for a while. Bobby gone. Bobby between about fire for football reasons. And fortunately, the have released me. Of the salt. No, no, no. Heard it heard about someone say oh. Guard. Our dear colleague, Bobby Pacino is. Found himself unemployed this time for football without scandal. He made it. I mean. He made it an entire tenure at a single employer without a off-field scam. Well, I guess the recruiting at the time Brian vandewater should and well, I've tried to be as generous as I can. Okay. Here's generous in one year Louisville decided that Bali Pacino wasn't worth it. And that Papa John was actually to racist even for Louisville. And I don't think either of us on that coming. It's been Victoria year. They're getting rid of what see Ripa Tino involve in literally of that name of federal case of fit, you cut them feds. You know, it gets you know, what kind of legal trouble catches people and Kentucky's attention. You don't want. That's right. The of they're like hoop? You might have to leave your house that live in the woods for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Why are you going to tell my family stories out here that and giving up fifty points, basically every week in a C c play those two things one in the same? I do like that out of all the exits from Louisville cleaning house and just giving everything a swab of garlic butter just to make it all brand new is slide away. Just all increasing the viscosity. Slink down the drain is out of all these exits bobby's just getting Ellie dizzy suck at his job. That's it. Yeah. Anybody can do that. I do I censor. I also want to point out that to mood. I wanna point out that before Bobby shuffled off this particular, mortal coil, the who got to get revenge on him after four years of losing. But a score something like one hundred sixty points to seventy. That's right Syracuse the one reliable kicking puppy that Louisville head during bud tree does tire second ten year at Louisville. They turned it around the turn around something nasty. It's fun to watch. Because a nasty turn it around. Man. I can't do it. Just ended up sounding like Dave Ronstadt. That to someone's fetish large sandwiches. Now, it is Jesus. We also have pit to talk about. There's a lot of Pitt. But congratulations. Syracuse on being the one to drive the last nail in the coffin of Bobby between at Louisville. Yeah. You got babord and denote you got Baber denote. Usually you pay double for that cotton. Bobby would know that wouldn't he I think that your extended metaphor implies the puppy kicked back. The public puppy became obeyed puppy reared up. Bit bombie, and you know, his money maker. Where is that? I'll leave that to the experts decide where Bobby Pacino's and let make setting. Yeah. It's a big old brain Bobby between manage to win games. Where's your brain? He could not win with Lamar accident, shoulders knees and toes of Bobby potato sing it Jason Singh puppet. Dude. Knees. And that's. I'm ready for this. Yeah. So Bubby tree. No, he gone I presumed to lie in wait for such lucrative coaching jobs as the Louisville dub in two thousand twenty three. So that you get the Notre Dame. Now, he can take Ohio State when urban goes to Notre Dame. They do need a man of character there. You know, the Atlanta Falcons head coach. Not a never work. I think we should see what's. Give it a chance. We'll we have to lose quite a bit aubrey's been waiting fifteen years for this. I say pick it up now at times, right? Yeah. Hey, get him before. Bama. Can't. The bridges of Madison County, we're going to reunite them. Bamboo grab him up a home for wayward, boys. He said, oh, wait. No sorry. Sorry. I'm bad at this. Real bad this. Yeah. That would be that would be the biggest shocker of all because we are now currently entering I think with the fire department. No, Kansas doesn't count they fire coach, right? That doesn't count it much. I'll tell you what Kansas firing a coach is not a surprise Louisville firing a coach officially kicking off termination season. We're now firmly in the point where hot seats become too hot. And officially began scalding people between the first cat off the hot grill. I think it's even funnier under for very personal metaphor. Tennessee, if we picture that like, you can't you can't bear. Have you can't broil a cat Jesus. Wept. That meet won't stand up to it was great. Spencer's acquired some stringy game. Pelt poor house can't pay. Dead redemption. Mostly speaking of poor pelts, I just like the idea that no this isn't actually kicking off hotseat season, the coaches who are fired this year, Kansas and Bobby portraying. That's it everyone else's fine. Also, Kansas once and things you can't Kansas has more wins than Bobby between managed in his final season before he got fired for being terrible. That is job lifts funny. Life is I can't relate life is rich and so is Bobbi between. Oh, shit three. Or four words. Bobby between. Oh studio presence. CBS or like a begin the stadium. Yeah. Because he gets to the online the producer tells the smile, and then it's like, no don't do. Don't. Oh god. He's just got one. He's got those bird teeth. He got them all filed down to match the mascot. Maybe tried taking one of them out, Bobby. Nope. It back in. No. This does begin the Louisville hiring Jeff Brohm conversations from Purdue. And this would be the point where is sincerely say. I do not know if this is a move that Jeff bone necessarily wants to make at this point. 'cause little is. It's a scientific phrase their goddamn mess absolute mess right now. But he's walked into those before. I mean, he did walk into Purdue with what do you fear? Yeah. And like, you know. How could it be worse than Purdue? And plus like how many chances do you get to go fix your mater? The most all monitor it beyond fixing. So say, yeah. Then again, Louisville probably pretty good go L again, the number highest rated division one football program instead of Georgia nineties negative. I can relate nearly beat Kansas state in basketball. We only lost by like nine I gather. That's good. Apparently, I've heard is that a basketball decent. Okay. That's good. Yeah. I'm a Florida fan nines fine. That's we got nine hundred Hugh. That's great. The other team kid is it less than nine in the other direction. Awesome. Oh do ethics to discuss for Florida. Normally in previous years when Florida had gotten down thirty one fourteen. There was some semblance of I guess, that's how things are just going to go today. I know something's changed because at the half, South Carolina got to thirty one points. It was the thirty one fourteen score. And I thought well, that's all South Carolina's got. Punch themselves out was there. Do you think there was sort of a c- say Florida used to be like that? And South Carolina is like that. Now is there some sort of a correlation between former Florida and current South Carolina who can't think of one I don't think to not a lot. The program has its common sheer coincidence collapse, and sort of an offensive like Meazza that comes over the team suddenly for no apparent reason. Like suffocating fart gas wafting from the ass of a giant dragon who kills scoring and college football games. No. I don't I don't know what the two teams could possibly have in common. I know that guy will must you him. He's going to he's going to bounce back from this though, you'll find that Jack can score points will you'll find that far dragging. Yeah. He'll. There's a big old fart dragging upstate that. He's gonna play the end of the season. Please. Remember that that South Carolina? If you go, oh, well can't really get much worse than blowing thirty one fourteen lead to Florida all people letting fully bay Franks Abitur game on you can be a forced baptism and Clemson. You bet get some Jesus robe dog. Get drowned in a trough for the lowered. Just like dab both daughters. And then in order to to close out your season, you have to go and play big ten west champ Akron interest scheduled game. Don't I have that? Right. I check. He does have only sons I rest my case. Let me just check. So we only know about his sons teach the coast because all the daughters were drowned. Yes for Chris. Yes. South Carolina is playing a rescheduled game against big ten west champion Akron zips not an easy game. Please never forget Akron won the big ten west. And if north western were to say upset, Michigan Ohio state, we'll have a state extremely upset. -able nearly beat Michigan earlier this year. Big Tim champion Akron in other shameful performances. Michigan state covered themselves in glory glory. By the way, is the Chinese pharmaceutical name for an off brand skin -pointment that can cause burning searing angriness irritation starting every drive from the one and a half getting one bad pun at of Ohio state's punter and then suddenly turning him into the reincarnation of Ray guy himself dropping Bob's. It's the five being so so. Out identity, your own identity that you are Michigan state, and you don't even trust yourself to punt imagine. That's the only thing you have Michigan state in case anyone missed this took an intentional safety in the third quarter. The train itself. He didn't even let that boy. Punt I really can't believe that Mark dantonio auto safety though. Like, that's the most Michigan state play is the unintentional auto safety, and he intentionally embraced it, and it paid made no difference whatsoever. Yeah. I mean, all it did was set up more bomb. Ask drew Christmas punts got your Christmas. He had a four yard punt to open things. The average is the average is a deceptive. I think that was delayed them into a false sense of security. Like, oh, he's off today. We got him. We got them rattled. Nope. You do not drew Christmas dropping balls inside. Like like, he was dropping balls inside the satchel angels Christmas. Yeah. Lever presence legit was transferring straight down the chimney. It was he was doing the quantum quantum physics thing where it's like every time it gets it gets halfway closer. You know, first time it's three that's one of the half the point seven five and it can never actually touch the goal line. Eventually is just infinitives Maly imperceptibly for away. That's as big ten words for that. Is you know, and speaking of adverbs? Adverbs Azima dill. Pledge to compliment you as a big ten west champion, Miguel grant beg your pardon. Speaking of that means or would have had to beat Iowa. Actual mayor. Seen in a most in my most northwestern moment ever on this podcast. Well, actually, north western fashion. I'm going to hand it over to someone else today. The rest of the. Got some great ideas here. If you guys could just get started on those that'd be awesome. I'll be over here. Figuring out of the fax machine. Works executive producer of this podcast. The most wonderful thing, by the way, the other quantum phenomena in Michigan state, Ohio State was the cage Maly extent. And then sometimes not there at all passing game totally random Brownian motion passing game from Michigan state. If you're not familiar Brennan motion, that'd be just the random movement of particles. It's pretty much exactly where the ball went. Michigan state has the weirdest offense because they haven't been able to run the ball for what three years running thing ever since they used up all their good runs in that one drive in the big ten title game. Yeah. That one said like LA drive you four play three hundred hundred and eighty or. Yeah. Four hours opened the doors to the stadium boys. We're going to downtown indie. Yeah. Spilling the. Yeah. Michigan state Bill. Bill Connolly often brings us up. They have this this brand of being a. Grungy excellent man ball team. But they're they're not lately they've let they've been like scattergun fifty passive game for twenty one completions. All what like a four point three yard per attempt clip with one I n t in no TD's. I was I happen to be watching this game next to a Pac twelve fan, and he said. How do you watch this shit? And then what happened later that night? And then what the east coast had its revenge because we all had to watch Callie USC. We're going to drag you down into the muck west coast. Necessarily. Fifteen points beat the most talented team when the entire west coast fifteen of them things me watching that game with Michigan state, Ohio State. What's sad tragic comedy that I can save her me later finding out what happened to Cal? You a see what masculinity water man ball? What reform has been brought to the Taxol. Yeah. What man the whole damn story? Calcutta great chant, man. Yeah. You some something something till the whole damn world. This is bear territory better city in Los Angeles territory run by bears better than fires. Can they find the bears could fight fires? You know? Listen to be their job. Yeah. That was raised. Great job bears. Listen Justin Wilcox can hold USC to fourteen points. I'm pretty sure he can keep well fire from jumping wanna one too. He's Billy dammit descend that big white fellow up the gap working. That was enough to stop USA Bengal number ninety something shutdown anything this little arriving egg ad blitz is one of my favorite college football thing. Which is you know, we're gonna put a guy right over the ball. We're just going to send him to you. And he's almost going to get there. He comes burden she'll big old Carole. Bayer. Having offended oak Christians and the victims of the California wildfires where you want to go next poise. I was thinking of going to. Alabama. If we if we have to talk about them. Well, it was making t shirt it was a rough weekend for the tight. No Christians there, especially on now struggling China in Alabama clearly has unconfessed sin famous struggled to get the ball moving. Just couldn't get anything done on offense failed to punch it in at the end like. I know like like only scored twenty four points to twenty four points to his confidence is shaking advocated, the language gap from a Hawaiian to to gods. God's language Gela Banff. Gela Bem fans more before the season. They weren't. Yeah. One of our estimations, young young gun standard view that message board fan. I think somebody actually found him in feels very badly. It wasn't a joke. Yeah. He did. He felt he was like, oh, I didn't. I didn't know. Yeah. We know you didn't know dummy. He was he felt sheep. But like everyone assumed it was a joke. Every was like this was a well, everyone from outside everyone from outside the midsouth assumed it was a joke. Yeah. Yeah. Thick every that. He felt very bad about it. And he's learned a lot about Polynesian culture. Yeah. Do you think he sincerely told people? You know, I went on a journey. I watched Milano washed Moana. Yeah. A wash Hawaii five. Oh, yeah. I'll watch the wrestlemainia whereas versus stone cold. Yeah. And they're stealing each other's moods. Politics party. At least one direction. Yeah. Later. I went to Benny hana's. I know not not it's not my heart was in the right place. I went out to the lake there's a there's a little island about forty feet out learned about island culture. Linear. Turtle. Yeah. There's weird muscles everywhere. It's crazy. Turtle on the island weird muscles. Dudes. There we go. We're muscles Boston College who I'll do is lay down segues. They scored seven points. This court seven points, you all seven points that would. With a kick return day at my favorite staff from that. Halftime it was like oh dude got him on the ropes. It's thirteen seven dudes. We're gonna we're gonna put that they had twenty four yard, dude. Sylvain twenty four yard twenty four yard. Yeah. And they're back on knocked out. Yeah. And the the one score was via a white boy who is wearing a hoodie under his jersey. Which is maybe the most New England football player thing of all time. You'd have a like a hoodie. First names. Obviously, Danny what's his last name over ten years old birds. But yeah, having a hoodie if you could only wear shorts as your uniform schwarzen- like cold, weather, right? Danny seena Tanny. It's not cold. You can't see me this. Why made that punt return happened, dude or? Not really a challenge for Clemson in any sense other than they managed to slow down clemson's offense a little bit. Also, they had to go to Boston. They kept it out of the psalm. That's good Travis. Generally averaged what seven yards a carry. That's a victory. That's not as bad as it has been a Clemson had his stat that the Tigers are now. It was something like five oh in northern games. Played under forty degrees, or colder there. So Tigers are very comfortable in the snow vereen tanker. Them. Hot weather Tigers. No state. Yeah. They them Porky internet Tigers. You see either nothing ones that sitting Chinese zoos getting fit chicken all day note. Tigers have a good those Tigers fans really fat Tigers from like Siberian zoos that just basically jumped at chicken thrown out of like baskets. Yeah, that's a life. Same. Yeah. Same same. Well, this is my way of saying Clemson can get fat. They'll still be agile as in their backfield the fridge package, which contains Trevor Lawrence at QB than Dexter Lawrence. Who's who is significantly larger than Trevor law? He's a bigger variety of Lawrence. He's about three twenty on the package on the listed in the roster so much larger brother he he's probably about three forty and then Christopher Wilkins. I believe at tailback is what he plays so fat. Absolutely. The way to go through life. That's what I'm hearing. Yes. That's exactly what you're hearing. And they run that package all day. It is my absolute favorite thing in football right now in terms of scheme, they should run. This should be their standard goal line package. And here's the fun part. It is when they get into goal line. They bring out seven hundred. Pounds of backfield before you get to the quarterback. Basically, I think they should start the game against like Duke just in that lineup. Do it for all drive and make do think like fucker they're going to do this whole time if they play. Football. If they play out. Football being throttled by tiger. Sorry, coach if they play Alabama the playoff that's down one down one set. They gotta have Wilkins Larence in the backfield some beautiful remember Christian Wilkins index. Lawrence book that I didn't they both led defense in the spring game? Wilkins pleats seeing played safety lobbied to play quarterback. He's played punt coverage. He's played. He's caught passes. He's ran the wildcat. Yes. They should they should let him loose. You. Let him play safe. You tell them in the national in the national title game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nick, savings brain. So hard time out. What does this playful Ludik figure to it? What is this poetry? I see before me. This is not football or assess Tom. This is awesome. Mandy. I I don't think this is any real bother for then I think this is all setting up for their real matchup of destiny, which the matchup pedestrian got a little bit closer this weekend. Because I don't know if you went to the ask kicking store this weekend. But if you did they were all out, and you had to come back, you know, whose fault that was that you had to come back on Sunday to buy more acid ask kicking store. All right. Did similar? I'm the sounds of it my, Debbie. No. There's someone put pit in the us kicking store so shit hit got to they ask kicking store before you, and they bought it all looted them. That's right. It was there. Like, it was windows ninety five at day. Yeah. First in line. I'm so excited. There are at least windows NT or as they say in Pittsburgh earned earned her turn. I have nine letters in it windows earn. Yeah. Pit pit put one on Virginia Tech. I know that defense is now pretty publicly known as being bad but damn pit. That's fair pit ran for four hundred ninety two yards. That's impulsive Johnson level spied on the ground. Four ninety two. Country Olsen had two hundred and thirty five yards rushing to thirty five, you know, damn so. Which you need tech. Let's check in rushing defense. How's it going? It started great. They did not allow. Really more than four yards a carry through the first four games since then five point two to six point eight five point nine six four point four seven. None of those are disastrous even the Georgia Tech one in there. It wasn't the average. It was there was sedan mini to average. And then there's this thirteen point six seven perk here. You have allowed sixteen rushing touchdowns in your last three games. That's what it says right here. Ecksteen CFP stats dot com. Sixteen rushing touchdowns in three games. I went to a public school. But could you correct me believe that's more than five? That's several. Yeah. That's many. But for the more than you want. How many teams have given fewer than sixteen rushing touchdowns all year? Let's find that out. It is actually well, it's it's quite a few quite a few including basically half the country half the country. Okay. Bama's given up three. Cincinnati is giving it five mighty Iowa State is given a five Auburn is only giving up six. That's how bad things that's how many they give up in a game twice. Why? Fine. What happened in Virginia Tech and Louisville played right? I don't win sprints wins friends, man. I would like to also catch up with another law of statistics science and humanity and football would like to go onto the NC state loss. Watch NC state by rule most finish every single season with four losses. And let's see where where are they saying? After this time, I think we're good. We good. Did we get to four? We're very pardon me. I forgot the the West Virginia game cancelled we are six and three. So. Headon head in. I'm going to say should be six and four so yeah. Because that's happening because every time you get high about NC state date shows up if they blamed West Virginia, they'd be six four. They played Wake Forest this week. So nobody will be happy. They were it was this was one of the seven biggest spread upsets of the season so far. So that's bad. Yeah. That's not good did Wake Forest have their starting qb. No. They started Jamie Newman. Yeah, they started him and he's not starter. So you figure going up against the seasoned team. Like NC state that was on the come up that was on the rise that you know, he was certainly going to exhibit the kind of fear. No, he threw three TD's. That's the playoff committee is number fourteen, sir. Yes. The answer being no one's really good this year for Alabama. Yeah. That's that's it. That's the answer. Nobody's really great. Except for Alabama everyone else. Just scrambling for fries at the bottom of the bag, and this I find a bit of freedom because Bama has that they have all the pressure. They get they gotta keep being bam on the rest of us can go about our happy lives. That's true. Yeah. If you if you ever find yourself angry about the playoff committee, pull up the as of this exact moment. Just take a look at the standings trying to list teams past ten. Levin something like that list through the list. Number twenty come up with the list that you think few people could find fault with it's impossible. There are here. Here's here's my favorite stat about this season. So far in the power five. Do you know how many two loss teams are with exactly two losses? To Syracuse LSU. That's it is it everybody else is either three one or none. The to the three count Notre Dame the three zeros influ ones. Everything else is garbage. Like who's definitively the eleventh best team in college football right now. Congratulations. It's you. Yeah. Sure. It's ever you wanted to. I don't care. Yeah. You can tell me, whoever you want Wisconsin. You wanna slide right in their eleventh best if someone came up and said, it's Florida you'd say. Deep issue LSU's. In the tape temper eleven yesterday. Well, guess who's the number eleven not us? Like, you can't even like even this weekend was sort of a cavalcade of slightly underwhelming performances. For instance, Michigan only scored forty two points against Rutgers and gave up an eighty yard touchdown to Rutgers. I asked a Michigan guy what happened to make them. So frustrated he says through a bunch of screens. During a dirty Criollos screens, cowardly odd thing. Dimond slot of hand. No. This is not belong in football. I want an honest exchange of facemasks, gentlemen, gentleness this. What little football to me? Yeah. Only forty two seven Michigan after a hammering of like after historic hammering of rutger's. Do you think they did it just so they could say Penn State? It's basically Rutgers absolutely one hundred percent. It's cayman. If you did watch bedlam, we have this is another it was actually bedlam this year. No, it was really it was real good. It did it was also actually bedlam because Oklahoma state lost. Well, that's interesting part and parcel. Yeah. Like every year. We we do this thing where we talk themselves into bedlam being anything can happen. It's crazy. Lame and as Kirschner put it that means Oklahoma could win by a lot Oklahoma can win by little Oklahoma could win on the last play. You never know what'll happen. It was one of the years where Oklahoma one by a little which fun homeless state and had to go forward to at the end and missed it on a plate where I was alternately told after watching it that the pass was bad the past was good. But the guy was opened the guy was open, but the past was, okay. But the defense was good. And I was told that the entire idea was very bad. I think Mike Gundy should be fired extended put on probation, and he should take the Louisville job. How can you favorite one score game? Like, literally, we talk about one score one point. It is a one point game. Where you do the bold thing to end it at the end, right? Like if you to finish it with a two point conversion, you take that chance. And then everyone goes, well, obviously, right, obviously, something went terribly wrong here. What should attending the point? Should you against your rival who you're already what two and eleven against right? And you come within one point of them with a guy named Taylor. Cornelius at quarterback who is far as everyone else knows only received scholarship offers from one other school, right? He wasn't even Tulsa grade material and he's your starter. And you get within a point of beating Oklahoma. What do you know what the data you can take from that the inference you can take from that nothing that you should fire. Mike Gundy immediate. Your best coach ever. I'm not talking about modern history or no, no qualifiers whatsoever. Your best coach ever. And he loses by point to a team. He's already two at eleven against as vastly more resources and isn't in Stillwater in a mock turtleneck vision, everything he's struggling against. Yeah. Just saying it's making it worse for yourself. Yeah. Mock fucking turtleneck. How dare you? And who was twice this season told the press, I don't give a shit nearly. I would ask when asked about scrutiny on play calls performance. And overall team record has said, I don't give a shit on multiple occasions. You scrutinize your closet? You fucking goblin. He does he does he needs a little more someone other than the khakis d wear sweat. Sometimes see one of those countries where sweats on the sidelines. Fancy sweats performance west. Yeah. He's ward performance. I think he's worth tack to slits. That's got to be among the most Oklahoma garments. I would guess who owns no fabrics that. Do not quick. Yeah. No. It's it's always thinking. This makes him a pioneer will. If you go and hunt rattlesnakes before practice, you're going to need the wicked material. Right. Thank you, Jill valuable input from a cat. You know, what Mike Gundy thinks of any cats input on his program? I don't give a shit shoot at that. And the cat. I don't give a shit. Poop in the woods and cover it like a cat. So. Asking. Let's see here. Can we talk about Texas, Texas sidebar here? Yeah. We speak quietly. I would like to have a Texas sidebar fat. I think it's important to note that shirt, Texas beat Texas Tech. But there are more important developments in the long horn averse like what? Well. Disgraced. Self disgraced Ohio State. The former assistant coaches X myth with e logged the fuck on. Yeah. No. He did not logo off Sunday night. He went on quite a tirade about Tom Herman, former colleague at Ohio State. Well, he's the head coach all interesting. Yeah. All seven of each each time Herman so Zach Smith won a quite a spree about him expose you bitch. I'm gonna take you down Asian masseuses and so on and so. Part of the takedown plans. I think so I think they were in on it from the beginning, they were plants by a criminal, masterminds myths. Just teach genius Jack Smith is a pretty whit sect name. We might have seen this coming. That's a fair point is real names. I can't say get so he Cornelius did in other. In other words, he did not stop posting. He he he. He kept posting any eventually one of his posts. He he broke out the seats. He had the documentation he exposed Tom Herman. Oh, man. He wall of text. I'm gonna take you down bitch so on and so forth so on so. Visual mediums, the end of this was a reply by Tom Herman. What was it? I forget the exact wording. Okay. Cool hook them. Which meeting the became the mantra of the internet for the rest of the night and will probably remain. It's the response that would have one might have sent to your post maters outside. Okay. Cool. Come. It's it's like it's gotta be Tom ERM and stock Texas Zac Smith dropping off full awful. It's like it's like a recruit says coaches thing I'm gonna come up next week. Okay. Cool hook. Spencer. We can hear that. It's fun had a crack crack a beverage Graco grow. Coa wonder restores man. A cooler. And my shiner came relisted week pill every coke zero can't log off my podcast dead. He's meeting. Need to slow it down. So I can accurately nail. These takes Bank. Bang bang. If you're wondering if they're like this all the time they are. Yeah. No. I. With Herman doing this. It does remind me that at all points, Texas is rich and doesn't care. That's it. Texas is rich and they don't care. That's all points. When you hear the theme song? Right. When you hear the texts are fun. You all you should here is the Calvin. I thank you. You could sit my, Dan. That's it. Big Cal big count goes to all of them. Right more. Yeah. Like, you could sing it to the fight song as well. If you were going to sing the Texas fight song, his I've tried this earlier. And here's a problem. I started singing, boomer sooner. But with big calcium my dick which actually works on like several levels in Texas are basically the same program. Everyone agrees on that. I've always thought that many people are saying many, many people have said, it's the only reasonable conclusion. Did you get a load of this Oklahoma and Texas the same program says someone? Yeah. We're going to get some emails, man. We're probably gonna get some emails. That's all right texts. Can't catch Dan Damberg. They can't catch a they can't catch a break. They can't break a set. They can't. Yeah. They can't do anything right right now because they go all the way down with jet who was their second stringer. And I think if you count it it certainly as might have even been close to third string like like, I don't know. They've had like you can. Yeah. Yeah. They've had nine different quarterbacks. Basically that is seventeen. He's seventeenth stringers. I remember everyone who comes through Texas Tech ends up somewhere else or ends up in the NFL, right usually Oklahoma Baker may feel Pat Mahomes, right? Who can catch? Bill. Jordan, little Jordan Humphry. He he Crabtree. So the most precious moment in the history of Texas Tech football. Alvin taking back waiting by rich people who don't have to live on the moon. I don't lie. You that happened to you? They they did kind of a weaker. But like rich people appropriating something they did a weaker less important version of it. Right. Oh, we can do that. It was the Woodstock two of catches. Then so yeah, I don't know Texas is what we how are we going our chicken? But we need to update everyone. This was this was very good news for Spencer of Texas is. It's a little tricky Texas is in the AP poll currently thirteenth, which is well within Spencer's wins on the overall mediocrity of cultural balls, really helping. Yes, this is good news for you. However, ten CFP rankings Texas was nineteen and. Bill probably jump up to about sixteen or so so they're in the push sewn in the secondary side chicken bet. So Spencer right now, you're currently one. Oh and one if things were to hold through Kansas. Excellent. That's that's a chicken this, chicken and a half. Of course. I also have a chicken bet with Ryan as well. That's what I'm keeping track of both. Okay. Yeah. Defeat Ryan on the big chicken. And you and I would have to have a grim handshake without any winners who sh-. Antagonize presidents to push push damn to you now to my way partner. Did you say, Tom Herman? I'm going to ruin him, whatever. Okay. Cool hook them. Okay. Cool. No hat. No cattle. Do you have anything else? Oh, hey. Hey, Tennessee one. Oh, yeah. True. It's. I gotta let through this recording yet. I don't know. This wit saw the end of it. We it's true. All right. I. I can't be you can't even be our answer for more of a coach with your answer for more of a coach in a wig. Got that out of us system. We're going to list van to Bill feel good though. Feel good. I'm feeling great. Your other team did pretty well, West Virginia. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My my ancestral team inside begun to watch that game. You gotta wait till y'all leave just. Speaking of gravelly voiced Cowboys Bandidos Howdy partner. Yeah. We'll through three fifty just you know, casualty TD day. No big deal along. Yeah. Just forty seven ten like, it's nothing. Over Gary Patterson and TCU having a very bad time up game bear. Yeah. Gary Patterson, having officially a very very bad time this year that TCU and four and six likely looking at not making. We need close to a bowl, right? Yeah. Well, we'll know the problem with making a bowl is that you'd have to watch TCU play football again. Everybody wants that shit. They feel like the armed forces bowl. Right. Six six like if they win their list at six and six TCU in the armed forces. That means staying at home. Yeah. Staying here hits. Let's put it this way TCU in December. I think your best bit is staying home. Yeah. You should just go ahead and do this, please. Then more sleep until the forever, sleep TCU. Creepy. There was a heartwarming moment as Pat FitzGerald informed. His team that they had won the division. Correct. The didn't they know that they lost accurate? Let's up you. No. They I'm sorry. I'm only looking at fourteen ten over one of America's finest football programs that we never slander on this program. I alwa- they beat Iowa fourteen. Ten goodness. Yeah. That that they informed. Everyone on the field that northwestern one, and they celebrated with a round of hearty handshakes. Just formal with a group byline. Yeah. They were like. We'll record a podcast now about this. That's what we'll do is that what people do to celebrate. Good news. That's what a northwestern grad. Does record a podcast like it. Subscribe, please. Not a YouTube channel desert gold.

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College Football Week 6 Recap

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College Football Week 6 Recap

"Behavior. Ballers today's show is brought to you in part by our good friends over at navy, Federal Credit Union navy. Federal has got a mission to put members I by making their financial goals, the priority receive a lifetime of membership benefits to help you and your family accomplish your life missions like a full suite of financial products designed to fit your needs. Twenty four, seven live support and access to over three hundred branches on or near military bases, visit navyfederal dot ORG for more information call one, eight, eight, eight, four to six, three, two, eight or download the navy Federal Credit Union app message and data rates may apply navy. Federal is federally insured by NCUA. Welcome to the solid verbal. For me. Man on forty. I've heard so many players say why wanna be happy. You want to be happy for day age of state. Is that will down and tie. Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls money, MS, Ty Hildebrand, joining the as always over there in New York City, this fine. But a little rainy Sunday morning, my good friend, Dan Rubenstein, sir. How are you? I'm good. I'm researching medication to slow down this heartbeats and deal with some palpitations. The blood pressure is not my friend after yesterday. A lot of fun. Weird, surprising, shocking, terrifying moments during, say, secretly, sassy. It was so secretly sassy tied. It was so much secret SAS going on a lot of alliteration there, but nonetheless. Wow, it didn't disappoint week six. As we said on the Wednesday show, not a ton of high high level matchups. It certainly not on the level of week seven when it comes to that. But nonetheless a lot of solid matchups and it did not disappoint between the two. Texas, Oklahoma game between three games that we saw in the SEC all of which were very interesting the we saw Notre Dame Virginia Tech, which we'll get into at night. Miami, Florida state was a lot of fun, Utah. Stanford, if you stayed up late a bit of an upset there. So certainly a lot to go around for college football fans of all makes and models. Absolutely. And it was nice to be able to appreciate that without without having to worry about an Oregon game kicking at ten thirty or watching Oregon blow out some terrible team like I had to do in September. It was nice to just focus all of my energies on and nice as a relative word, but watching the Auburn offense or watching the Kentucky offense or watching, you know, Texas barely hold on against Oklahoma. It was nice to have fandom just have nothing to do with week six. I like that. But we had a ton. The tweets come in. We had a ton of reverberates come in again, don't forget. You can always find it solid verbal dot com or also on all social media channels. Really Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. There's sub Reddit at ready dot com. Slash arse lash solid verbal Biver ballers forever. Ballers if you're a new listener, don't forget. Next week seventy can still get in on the pick and pull. We do it. We have weak and I should point out before we go any further. There was an Easter egg in Easter egg this week in our pick and pull. Did you happen to notice that Dan when you were filling out yours? I did see that Texas was favored by a touchdown instead of a dog by a touchdown. And I was just our little gift to you and you may have taken it and that didn't work. Ups? Yes. So a bit of an Easter egg a small glitch in the matrix. We had people riding in like, did you know that? And yet we did know that. So hopefully everyone gobbled up those seven Oklahoma points that we gave you out of the goodness of her heart. If not, if you were one of the few overconfident, Texas fans. Sorry, you did get the win over much not by seven though. It looked like it might go that way for a pretty good chunk of that football game. Should we just jump into a reverse stanch we do that. Get those out of the way hit play on those tied. Do it your week. Six reverse. Have a listen thing called after brunch is making this Saturday extra staffy. This is Ray up in Dallas. Tie it staff from payment Honey out from Pennsylvania. Here this is Scott from Nashville. This is Kelly from Austin, Texas, heart disease, Kyle calling from Annapolis Maryland, and I've just saw my long, put together a near flawless, but within the vocal Homa for three quarters. So Chris to the Sooners per blazin back in Canada and thank God for Dicker the kicker, corns win, Texas is back. How about that? Texas born, Texas, bred Heisman candidate, Sam etlinger, five touchdowns almost four hundred all purpose yards. Gotta give credit where it's due. Mary is one hell of a baseball player as an Ohio State fan. The main ten day team used in the same sentence as shootout often is probably the biggest surprise twenty eighteen game longhorns good job. Thirty two and I was like, you know you, that of us filled size. Texas is pretty much back is go for Oklahoma back Oklahoma more like Kyoko Homa and I watched my Texas. Amac in overtime in which Kentucky never ran a single ofensive snap on our side of the fifty. And I'm not sure if I'm impressed poor depressed about that statistic either way. I'll take it when I submit a data Lert for punter kicker of an absolute leg in sometimes eat a little bit of luck. And sometimes the whole lot of Trayvon Williams just walking out, it's called field. Thank God for Mike Yoko. Well, Alabama said, screw the puck pot. Ongoing use a blow torch on this call to is the Heisman Trophy winner there. The possibility that would those play in feeding fourth quarter SEC championship games, and he is good for the second week in a row. The Razorbacks have covered an obnoxious way. Large spread things down the Georgia BULLDOGS said, we won't Bama. I watched my Gators feet LSU at was. Over his best teams in the fifty worst ever been so happy to be wrong about that. Second, half the Notre Dame Virginia Tech game. See the Irish turn on those jets and come away with the road win. That was awesome. That would foster defense looking, ru, tender in this. Notre Dame looks like you left Suranjit ham and that lunch failures bud, go Irish. The Hanky still have the best ventured in college football, but blue tick it on Dame. So the fares in town in today's peach derided score of fifty plus yard, rushing touchdown against the wake, the anybody and everybody come on out just three tickets. Trevor Lawrence may have won the battle of freshman quarterbacks today in Winston, Salem. But according to the young women of my household, Sam Hartman is good looking. I wanted to watch a four hour, long parade of human suffering. I would have rented our Werner Herzog movie. Go knows rebid. It. I have no voice, but I'm calling from leaks lanting coming home from a cast victory. Utah is officially the team in the fact twelve ruins the Kohl's playoff chances. Please, please, please can we get a dramatic reading of maybe offense and possessions against air force's week. So callers. Yeah, colors. Yeah. I wanna read or with the ballers will make a pun, sing it out, even her treats. Got the shout. This is back. All right, there you go. Thank you again for calling in four eight, verbal one. Your number four, eight, three, seven, two, two, five one as with every college football Saturday, please feel free to gives call very stream of consciousness our river just in the moment at the bar on your couch at home. Whenever you're watching the games or just feeling something as part of watching the game gives phone call, let us know what's on your mind, get it off your chest, where your virtual shoulder. We are the virtual shoulder. Thank you. Let's get started with Texas forty eight, Oklahoma, Forty-five, true to form Mr. Rubinstein. This was indeed a Red River shootout. Ninety three points. One thousand thirty, three yards of total offense. A great football game. Freshman kicker, Cameron Dicker drill are a forty yard field goal with nine seconds left to give Texas a huge victory. That was, of course, after Texas squandered twenty one point lead at the start of the fourth quarter. Oklahoma came back, made it interesting tied the football game, but ultimately Texas gets the w. what were your thoughts and emotions while watching the Red River shootout one, Texas is offense was fun to watch consistently, not just big plays up the same to Colin Johnson or Jordan Humphry, but they were timely. They had a plan. They kept moving the ball, especially in the red zone. On the goal line, you know, going Sam l. anger, right? You know, tight ends. We're doing a good job setting the edge. It looked like a Texas offense with more of a plan. And better execution than we were used to seeing. And also Murray is extremely fun to watch so good. He so fast, his incredibly fast. He makes that mistake early on. He hasn't mistake late with that fumble. But his ceiling as a playmaker is astronomically high and for Texas to whether the calorie Kellerman storm was impressive, and they have it looks like three more top twenty ish tweeted this out offenses in the coming weeks in West Virginia, Oklahoma state and Texas Tech. So the more they can weather and not give up leaves, I suppose the better, but overall in incredibly impressive day from Texas, a mostly incredibly impressive day from Oklahoma's offense. I don't know where we go hoping that Oklahoma's defense improves under Mike stoops because the evidence at this point with more and more of his. In this defensive staffs players indicates that they are going to just be average, and that's taking into account adjusting for tempo adjusting for situation where they are an average national defense. Whereas teams like Texas or TCU or even Iowa State last year, what we saw from Oklahoma state at times that even though they give up points, it's over a ton of drives because these teams score quickly. So. At this point with what Lincoln Riley gives the Sooners on offense. I, I don't know how you can just settle for what he's getting on defense. One thing we should bring up. We didn't even really mention the name Sam etlinger, but a a monster effort for him three fourteen in two touchdowns through the air seventy two yards in another three touchdowns on the ground. Our friends over at pro football focus, the college edition, Rome get down on Twitter and said that etlinger was sixteen of eighteen for two hundred and twenty six yards and a touchdown throwing over the middle of the field how against Oklahoma that was really the difference in this game, at least through the air where etlinger was able to get some of his. He had an incredible effort. Of course, went mono a mono with Cuyler Murray in just a really fun, offensive showdown, shootout, whatever you wanna call it classing a big win here for Texas. By the way, just as I a person. Final aside. If I could please probably a top twenty five moment of my life when FOX came back from commercial to the camera shot that I posted on Twitter with the, you know what I mean? The kid holding up the homemade Texas is back Texas back scribbled on a notebook on a piece of notebook paper. I wonder if he was a plant to sort of start the conversation. He was probably over baller d- behind. Oh yeah, that's tireless on the table. And before we move on from this game, it's worth mentioning that Lil Jordan Humphry aside from just being a fun name to say, oh, yeah, is a fun name to watch because he is one of the best all purpose players in the country. I know he didn't really do anything on the ground yesterday or in the return game. But he he has that early touchdown pass and he is just, you know, any screen with him. All of the sudden goes from six to twenty six. And that is especially given his size and. You know what? Where, how much he stands out on the field, a crazy impressive player to watch that is the most impressive part. I would say of this Texas offense. Let's move onto the three headed monster of SEC games that we saw throughout the course of yesterday. Let's start in Gainesville with Florida, twenty-seven LSU nineteen. Dan, only one member of the broadcasting duo had the foresight. I would say the Honus the okay option to predict that one team. This game would finish with nineteen points. That's true. Tie. You did. Did you take LSU though? I took Florida. Plus the points we grow k. you talked me into it? Yeah. Florida's defense has improved over the course of the season. And one of our main points has been that the Kentucky loss isn't nearly as bad as it appeared in the moment. Yeah. Well, that's especially after their performance yesterday to defensively, at least it holds up. My takeaways from this Florida LSU game are basically what they were going in. You know, fleet bay Franks doesn't complete half of his passes, but he makes big plays aside from that, you know, seemingly huge interception that he threw into the end zone, but it is it is that chopped top chef thing where offensively Florida gets enough. Michael p Ryan has some big runs Jordan, scarlet powers through well enough. I think their receivers are probably underrated and eventually they will have a receiving core that produces in a big way. You know, van Jefferson is somebody I like watching him into somebody. I like watching the story of the game to me was Florida's defense and with LSU having opportunities to go down field. Florida's defense kept coming through and stopping any momentum's and Elsie was a team that has performed well in their Willis away from Baton Rouge, both in the neutral site against Miami and then against Auburn on the ROY. Owed and ultimately having to constantly make big plays and Joe, Joe bro did make a couple of those was fourth nineteen. That's what that was. The yardage that came through late, but having to make those plays consistently being put are putting your own offense in that position to have to make big plays. I think ultimately was LSU's undoing and it. It becomes more difficult against a Florida defense that was just decline polite. Another huge game just basically lived in backfield's. And ultimately, Florida's ability to dominate on both lines was was the difference. And the score, you know, twenty seven nineteen. And that was a pick six at the end. It was it was really impressive to see. We're used to sink Florida defensive lines coming through, but for Florida to to handle LSU's defense like they did felt like a big step forward for the Gators. Yeah, it wasn't the cleanest of games. I don't know if anyone know it would be otherwise, but we saw four turnovers. His nineteen penalties a combined eight of thirty. The Ellen third downs really defensive-minded game, but LSU definitely had more trouble with forms front. I was impressed with how Florida ran the football. It's bad. Why? Since I watched a Florida game and it felt like they had a cohesive ground attack between what Michael p Ryan, who ran angry in this football game and even Jordan, scarlet. Both of them I thought were exceptional. Maybe not eye-popping numbers, but really did get the job done. I was impressed with Florida here and you're right, we'll talk about an and Kentucky and a little bit specifically. Kentucky on defense is, is a pretty valid opponent for not just other SEC teams. Really anyone in the country. They play angry own their defensive front. And perhaps we've come to a point where we need to reevaluate how Kentucky health, Laura, how Mississippi State figure into the mixture in the SEC. But specifically as. As it relates to this game and nice win for Florida. I will say this though, Florida next week at vandy maybe a once in a lifetime. Let down look ahead sandwich game these times it. Maybe it's an open faced game because it's not truly an opponent on the other side of the vandy game. It's a by, but we've got obviously a huge win at home over LSU on the road next week at vandy, then a buy week and then Georgia. So I feel like there's an opportunity next week to play a sound and maybe take a home dog home dog skew on the Vanderbilt Commodores. Yeah. Vandy has scored thirteen and a half points. They've averaged thirteen and a half points in their last two SEC games. They get killed by Georgia loose comfortably to South Carolina. So I think Florida may win that game ugly in a a twenty two eleven kind of way. Exactly. Oh, exactly. But I, yeah, I don't. I don't see vandy really bringing it to the wire big win though. For the Florida Gators again, twenty seven and nineteen. They win at home and onward. They go. Let's stay in the SEC. Texas am twenty. Kentucky, fourteen this game went to overtime and it featured a giant blink, a giant Dave. Throwing off the crossbar on a forty three yard field goal, which is something you see a whole lot of, but especially on a day where a Missouri kicker hit a fifty seven yarder about midway up the net on a wet field. So Ryan college kickers have gotten better feels over the course of time. Not often. You see a dunk off the crossbar and a forty three yarder. But this one goes to overtime in large part due to Kentucky's defense, which got a really big play on a strange kellyn mon- blunder with about four minutes left am is up fourteen to seven. Most importantly, at that point, they're covering the point spreads seeing as how they were my lock of the week Mon. Does this little pirouette in the backfield? I don't know what he's trying to do puts the ball on the ground, Kentucky scoops and scores at that's how they end up tying up. Up will it appears Texas a. and m. recovers it before an offensive lineman? Also just buffs it over Kentucky player. Yeah, important clarification. Yeah. Then the game goes to overtime. Then we have Kentucky, don't you get off the crossbar and then eventually Trayvon Williams running it into the end zone for the w I was impressed with Kentucky's defense. It's apparent that I've underestimated them throughout the course of the season. I was also impressed with an EMS defense because Kentucky was held to just one hundred seventy eight total yards of offense. Benny Snell rendered mostly ineffective, just sixty yards on the ground. Anamika wasn't a pretty game, wasn't a pretty w, but they did get the job done. It was technically over a top fifteen opponent and certainly one of the better defenses in the country. So good on them. Good on JIMBO Fisher. Yeah, tech CENA with as much as they struggled upfront, protecting Callum aunt who was was okay. He made plays and Trayvon Williams by the. Away because he was, you know, sort of last year when he hits that second level, I involuntarily just go like I'm just ready for him to break something for eighty three. And he just the the amount of time it takes for him to go from three to eleven is astounding. He is one of just one of my most favorite players to just watch like he is just visually exciting and so it was fun watching him. He makes the play at the end of the game and a really nice win for JIMBO Fisher Intech Sanam to escape that given, you know the issues giving the poll away that led to points and Kentucky for as good as they were on defense, they could have won. This came without a single play, run on Texas a. and m. side of the field in the second half which is both impressive and depressing. I don't know. There's something about Kentucky's offense that fills that nicely. I was disappointed. Obviously. They didn't give the ball to Benny Snell at all in their in their one. Overtime, a weird Dr. Weird bit of strategically there by Mark stoops the Terry Wilson for as. Impressive as he is athletic -ly and buying himself time. He is. He is not a quarterback and we talked about this a little to put the game on his shoulders. It's just he's not there yet. Maybe he improves over the course of the season in develops into somebody a little bit more dependable with his arm. But this team for better worse is going to depend on their defense, which football's one true. Josh Allen has another excellent game for Kentucky. They had and still do. I imagine they have a safety. I think his name is Edwards, Mike Edwards for Kentucky. He was all over the place for for the wildcat. So in a game in which the offense was that disappointing to be in it into lose on a crossbar and man, I had Kentucky on the points and it just felt like taxonomy was gonna win that with the field goal. And that would be fine for me. Yeah. And then Trayvon Williams doing that like helicopter flippy thing into the end zone at the game. Very exciting. If you're tech saying fan and once again, just survive in advance. If you're an Aggie fan, you know to be the top fifteen team at home, take it move forward. All right. And then let's stay in the SEC and talk about Mississippi State twenty three allburn nine. So okay. Auburn's offense may not be getting any better this year. Is that, is that a fair observation at this point through six weeks of the season, I think they can improve. I think they have it within them to improve. They are, you know, as we talked about preseason, I think they're much more of a grower than a shower, but we're into October. I mean, we're in October at this point Jomar they had ninety yards on the ground granted against a pretty good defense. I missed the events. Yeah, pretty good defense. Sure. But auburn's calling has so much been the ground game since gun ELLs on got there that has really been the centerpiece of what they're doing. Some of the creativity getting guys motion in space, only ninety yards on the ground for Auburn. It's something we pointed to in the preseason when we did our previews for Auburn. We were curious, where was the efficiency going to come from on the ground for the Tigers? It's clear that they have not found it yet. Doesn't mean they won't, but at least in this game and for most of the season. So far it really has been a bit of a struggle bus to get going on the ground for the Tigers me. While on the other side, Mississippi State seems to have figured out their ground game, almost three hundred fifty yards on the ground. You couple that with a pretty good defensive effort here, not the most fun game in the world to watch the whole game was basically one of your dramatic drive charts for begin honest. But Yep, a fourteen point win for Mississippi State here was a really nice way to get things going for Joe Moorhead. This is a good win for him. Yeah, and avoiding the sort of emotional letdown of last week with Dan Mullen returning and losing that game and having another big opponent come in in Auburn and to stick with their plan. You know, obviously Joe Moorhead did not have Nick FitzGerald, throw the ball a ton because he is playing to his strengths and as a quarterback that is not necessarily his strength throwing the ball downfield, but Nick FitzGerald. Anyway, goes on to set some SEC records for a running quarterback eclipsing, Tim. Tibo who I think was inducted into the something bring of Bonner's inducted into the us. The sick Lanier, the six player to be inducted into the Florida ring of honor us pretty good and deservedly so so Nick FitzGerald with, you know, Tim Tebas same coordinator in Joe Moorhead goes on to set some new records and was crazy impressive on the grounds and the defense held up really nicely and sort of forced auburn's hand to abandon the running game at times. I liked watching Whitlow. He busted a couple of nice runs, but this was not a team that was patient with the run game. And when Auburn has succeeded, it's been because of whoever Cameron Artis Payne or carry on Johnson or Trey Mason. And we just we're not seeing that same sort of rhythm and confidence and consistency there Jarret stidham you know, makes a couple of nice throws, but they can't finish drives and I just it was. It was tough to watch. Just I think you're right as a football fan or as an Auburn fan. I'm. Thai I have to do. I should write. I should pull up Voracek. Right? You can do it if you want to. Yeah. I mean, this was basically the whole game. It was. Yeah. Do you hear that tie? I can hear it. Yeah. Auburn, punt punts field goal missed field goal, pun field goal, fumble field goal downs. Yeah. Yeah. And these were by the way, if we're going to be specific and I will play the music in, but it was three plays punt. Three plays punt four plays field goal. Eleven plays missed field goal. Four plays punt like it was. It was quick inefficient, a lot of empty calories out there on the alley. All right. Auburn's got some work to do to get their offense sorted out. Big win for their offensive. Line is is a mess is legitimately it is. It is okay at night. ND Notre Dame Forty-five. Virginia Tech, twenty three. I thought Notre Dame looked very good initially than they slowed down. You could say that has the first half were on made some halftime adjustments and then looked very, very strong in the second. Half got some big plays the star of the game for me for as much as we've talked about Ian book. The star of the game for me was Dexter Williams, two weeks in a row. Now where we've seen really big important efforts from him in this one's one seventy eight on the ground three touchdowns including a big one, a ninety, seven yard touchdown, run early in the second half which just really swung momentum. Notre Dame's favor on the whole. Notre Dame, I'd say had four or five big gaining plays that ultimately swung this thing in their direction. But included in that was of course that long run from Dexter Williams. I'd say a nice day for Ian book twenty five of thirty five something. Like that the longer throws need work. I was having flashbacks I posted this on Twitter to max Wittig halcyon days of max Wittig at US on some of these deeper throws because he had guy streak it down the field wide open, and he wasn't anywhere close to them. He's got to get that figured out. I know that was the rub on him preseason when we were just musing over whether or not it should be him or wimbush book is not been known as a longer thrower. So perhaps they could work on that and and fine tune the accuracy, but look, it's all gravy at this point. Notre Dame six. No, the final six games are there for Notre Dame's taking if they want to go out and grab that playoff spot. I don't want to jinx it, but it's time to get real look at the schedule. It's there is long as they can keep doing what they've been doing the last couple of weeks now they've, they've been really impressive since the book came in. Yeah. And I would say, even aside from opponents and looking at playoff potential at ever. Because that'll sort itself out if you just look inward. So Notre Dame has found much more consistency at quarterback than I think Notre Dame's were anticipating going into the season. Look, it's it's fair, and I think curves shoot was brought it up in the broadcast and he was one hundred percent, right? Some of the shorter passes. Some medium range passes that in his words were gimmes that Notre Dame had missed in recent years. They're just not missing with Ian book. They're making a lot of those smaller plays very meaningful. That in and of itself has been a bit of a revelation for the offense. Yeah, you wanna stack up as many third and twos as opposed to third and seven is posture, have yourself a shot the book. So Notre Dame now can say one. They have a quarterback who gives them a shot to consistently move the ball downfield and give the ball to fast playmakers. You have a clear number one running back to sort of take the mantle from Josh Adams in Dexter with. Uh-huh. And there is a clear number one receiver which hasn't always been the case these past few years in miles boykin with other talented options in Allison Mack and chase, Clayton, whoever, and then on all three levels of his defense. And it's not just having playmakers, but it's, you know if one guy's not having a particularly effective day on defense, somebody else steps up yesterday was what Kareem on the defensive line. He was eligible Kareem and then to Coney was everywhere and Julian love made plays. So Notre Dame again schedule aside. And I mean, I can pull it up right now, but we are pre. I mean, listen pit is now a winning team and the c. so floor states improved northwestern's improved north western games. The tricky one, right? And that's post navy. That's Selena freaks me out a little bit. There is still potential just because of talent. And because the fact that the game is on the road that USC like they have a couple of times under. Klay Hilton is a much different looking team by the end of the season than what they look like in September short for sure. But as far as like knowledge about both Notre Dame and their opponents, they're going to be favored. They should be favored probably comfortably in the rest of these games. Oh, definitely, definitely. So you think you can at least take this Sunday off from being stressed about Notre Dame? Yeah. No, I I take Solis in the offense getting better, and the defense being reliable defense has been outstanding this year, and you know it was interesting to see. So they've got some injuries of frontier. I won't talk too much about Notre Dame, but Dalen Hayes didn't make the trip. He was her Jillian Cora. He went down now. He didn't go down. Jillian of Kwara was booted for targeting another defensive end. So to see how they responded when they were challenged just from a depth perspective in their front. Seven was interesting, and they did answer the call. If if you're Virginia Tech fan by the way, conversely, not to just only talk about Notre Dame, definitely disappointment situationally when they get down to the one yard line and have to kick a field goal. Oh, yeah, totally. That was in the way that it happened with Ryan Willis running into a back on third down that you know, situationally, Virginia Tech has a ways to go and certainly the way Notre Dame sort of poured it on in the second half points to depth and the fact that, yes, Ryan Wilson's a backup quarterback and they don't really get that much consistency on the ground. They have a couple of receivers. I would imagine they like Hazleton especially. So I think there is that there are bright spots for the hokies, but giving up forty five at home in. In that atmosphere shouldn't happen against anybody maybe beyond Alabama. So Virginia Tech knows that they're thin on defense and not nearly with the talent that they've had these past few years. So take solace in the fact that if recruiting, you know, improves or continues to to go along this pace, the hokies will be fine. And maybe they lose this game next year, but it's her the next time they play, but it's going to be thirty to twenty six or something. All right, Miami, Twenty-eight, Florida state twenty-seven. This'll good football game. It ended up better if you're a Miami fan because Florida state was solid rock solid for about forty minutes, and that's when it came a bit off the swivel Miami down twenty seven to seven with around twelve minutes left in the third quarter, and they rally now very quickly. They rally towards the latter half of the third quarter. Three second-half touchdown passes for an acoustic Perry. Miami comes back to win by one at one point late in the third quarter period. Two touchdown passes within forty two seconds. Dan. It's pretty good. It's really good. At the end of the day, he finishes with four touchdown passes and total not the best stat line for him going. What was it? Thirteen of thirty two or thirty three. I want to say, but ultimately gets the job done. Miami comes from behind to win this game. Mark richt was all kinds of excited. I thought a step forward for Florida state even in default for sure. Chronologically. Florida state's offense, especially with the offensive line issues that they still and we'll continue to have all year long. I thought did a pretty good job early on camakers pulled out. Some, you know, the final stat line wasn't there, but pulled out. Some tough runs as did. Jack was Patrick, and you mentioned the cozy Perry quickly. Throwing successive touchdown passes that's on Miami's defense and special teams making plays to put floor state in that position. So all around I. Yeah, I, I was impressed with who you know, DeMarcus Christmas had a good game. Fred Jones. Brian burns was everywhere, and so they, they gave Florida state that chance to to get Miami's offense off the fields and did a particularly good job overwhelming Miami's offensive line. And I know that call is probably infuriating to a two floor state fans. The ref's call that it was ultimately a forward pass. I couldn't. I didn't feel strongly either way I understood the call, but if they let it slide a probably would have been fine. On that double pass touchdown. That was called back. Miami gets fortunate because they missed a chip shot. Field goal that would have comfortably, put them up. I think by four, but Florida state ultimately can't get it done. So I think I expected more from this Miami team against Florida state. But ultimately, I think it speaks better Florida state than it does unfortunate about Miami that you know the stem were in position to win this game given all that has been stacked up against them. One final note on Florida state. Now in defeat, Florida state needs to be three of these teams to gain bowl eligibility. Okay. Wake Forest? Yup. Clemson and OC state? No, probably not Notre Dame. No, probably not Boston College, maybe in Florida. Oh, okay. So essentially they the must-win game of those. So wake gives them the best shot waker Boston in college. He gets NC state. So NC state on the road is probably their best hope now. That's that's their must win, which they have wake. I mean, I have, I think they have a BI week, but then they have wake now. All right. So I mean, I lose the weight gain. They're pretty much toast because it's at Notre Dame at NC state, but they host Florida. Okay, there's a shot. I'd put it at about. Twenty four percent. All right. Let's move on to Utah. Forty. Stanford Twenty-one. Bryce little did not play now in this football game. This one I got it came out of nowhere a bit for me like Utah. Putting up forty points against anybody. Anybody is a bit of a shocker. Maybe Stanford was a little weary from their match up a week ago against Notre Dame, but four turnovers two interceptions two fumbles for the car dole. What forty two yards on the ground without infl- in this game in the fourth quarter, it was like twenty seven and twenty one in the fourth. Yeah. Thoughts on this one, Dan, this one really surprised me. Yeah, Utah had played everybody tough on defense and really gave themselves a good shot to to beat wazoo on the road last week. So not shocking that Utah's pretty good because they are at least that's like their baseline. Every season is pretty good. The big thing to me was since what two thousand nine Stanford's always had a guy and a guy in waiting at running back. You know, whether it was Toby Gerhart, but like, hey, Stephan Taylor's can be really good or, hey, I know seven Taylor's the guy, but Tyler Gaffney is can be really good. Hey, I know actually, I don't think Christian McCaffrey sat behind anybody. They had that one down year that down your was like they're seven and five year when they didn't have a guy at running back and whoever is behind Bryce love, bright now does not appear to be the guy of the future. So that changes the dynamic of Stanford on offense. As we know the built around that power rush and play action game with big tight ends at big pass catcher. So when a team like Utah, with a strong defense forces Stanford to become one dimensional enforce many places k. Jay Castillo has made this year. He can get rattled under pressure. He can make some mistakes, and ultimately that's what did them. Even with throwing all over the place on this Utah team, but Utah offense was able to control the ball on the ground limit their mistakes. Tyler Huntley was good or a really good, especially given within the confines of where Utah has been offensively this year. So really, really nice win for Utah. I think Stanford's pretty limited upfront on defense. And really if I, if I'm gonna put on from an Don, my tiny little Oregon hat s- probably should be the third straight loss for Stanford mail. It was good of Stanford to pull out that Oregon game, but I think the Stanford team, this is a this is a gap year for Stanford to put it in academic terms. They're just that was there's not enough there on all levels, which is disappointing because they've recruited well, they've developed while I think there's talent in the secondary, but they're just they're not a nine, ten win team this year. All right. Before we move on, we're gonna jump over to the big ten and go rapid fire through some of the other conference action. We need to tell you about our good friends over at ziprecrui. Router, Dan, as you know, there are job sites out there that are going to send you all the wrong resumes and go through them. Yeah, I don't know. 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Would you call this one on Twitter, a quiet, crock potting. I think it was a quiet crock potting because hold on hold on. Hold on. Hold on hawk excuse me. I've never ever played that for big ten team, and that's the quieter of the two crock potting sounds that we have at our dispatch. Appreciate that more restraint. Michigan was very good on both sides of the ball. And final score was forty, two, twenty one. Probably not even that close Maryland scores at the end of the game in sort of garbage time, and I thought shape Patterson did a good job. I, I had one very minor quibble that against Wisconsin who by the way, their defense looks far more mortal that we've seen out of USA, Wisconsin teams who the the wolverines have next week in Ann Arbor, but against the better of the defenses is that Michigan will face coming up. So they'll have Ohio State, obviously is to stretch the field a little bit more with the receiver shape Patterson steamed to rely on on Zach gentry. But this is this is picking nits tie because I thought the offensive line is I wouldn't say dramatically, but noticeably improved against a pretty strong Maryland defensive front with a lot of high level talents, and they did a great job of of limiting any sort of negative plays. I thought she Patterson look comfortable comfortable. Excuse me in confident behind. Them they may plays and defensively, Michigan was lights out and that's especially without Rashawn Gary, who I think was out for this game and just helped Maryland completely down for four quarters. And I know it was sort of a slow start for Michigan. But at this point, Michigan's offense probably needs to score and listen. This is a Wisconsin team that you know is beat up in the secondary and has issues in the secondary, a Michigan state team. That's not probably gonna score a ton, a Penn State team that is going to score. But Michigan, you know, a couple years ago, handled them well enough. That's going to be a huge game for them, but that's in Ann Arbor and then they finish in Columbus. So I anticipate this Michigan defense being good enough, no matter what the offense does probably to get this team to ten wins, like they'll probably lose the Penn State game or the Ohio State game. But I think they, I think they're talented enough to beat Penn State at home, and I'm suddenly a little less. Worried about Michigan state and Wisconsin. Forty, two, twenty one Michigan wins. You did mention Ohio State, Ohio State wins forty nine, twenty six over Indiana. Yup. This game was was was pesky Indiana hung around. They really did until eventually, Ohio State got enough distance, and it wasn't too big of a question, but as you would expect the numbers for Dwayne Haskins or just eye-popping six weeks into the year, and it's almost been normalized which is kind of ridiculous and unfair to him in this game four fifty, five passing and six touchdowns. He also had a very honest moment, I think after the game when he talked about the energy at practice being down this past week, because everyone was still tired for the Penn State win. It showed especially early on in the game. I thought the play calling was pretty conservative from Ohio State. And when they did score, it was big play stuff. It wasn't driving down the fields and. Didn't really get going all that consistently on the ground. And I think that part of it is due to Indiana. I thought Indiana look pretty strong. Yeah. Fron limiting Ohio State Payton Ramsey had a very nice game throwing the ball for Indiana Hintze. He seems like he's getting better in, I think so. Yeah, I think so. And I think part of that is there was a fearless quality to Peyton Ramsey throwing into the teeth of this Ohio State defense than they weren't getting a ton of pressure on him consistently. And I don't think it's terribly worrisome for Ohio State fans. I'd be a little bit worried about the penalties for Ohio State. It's never great when you shoot yourself in the foot consistently more often than your opponents, but with Dwayne Haskins who just even when he's under fire, he's just completing passes. He makes a couple mistakes. It gets hit on that on one of the interceptions, but there is for Ohio State right now. There are too many ways to win for them to be really all that concern. And against teams that aren't the top of the top of the big ten. All right. I'm gonna go rapid fire here through a few of the remaining graziers in the big ten and then just jump in afterwards. Let me know if you've got any thoughts that I missed. Wisconsin forty one Nebraska, twenty four. Adrian Martinez came back and had a nice football game here, but ultimately it was Jonathan Taylor. Thomas who eight Jonathan Taylor tailback. Yeah. Excuse me. I hope it was Jonathan Taylor. Thomas, let's be real. It'd be amazing if it worked twenty. Four carries two hundred twenty one dollars three touchdowns including a long idiot yarder in the fourth quarter concert wins by a forty one to twenty four score also northwestern twenty nine Michigan state nineteen. Clayton Thorson threw the ball forty, seven times western played good defense when it counted in the fourth quarter. Michigan state still can't really run the ball. They end up losing this one twenty nine tonight teen elsewhere. Iowa forty, eight. Minnesota thirty one Minnesota hung around for awhile. They actually look pretty good in the front seven and against the I will rushing attack. But the past coverage just was not there without Antoine. Winfield junior who's now done for the year because of a foot injury. Nate Stanley three, fourteen through the air and four touchdowns again, I will wins by seventeen and finally in the big ten, Illinois, thirty, eight Rutgers seventeen three hundred and thirty yards on the ground for the align. I what I miss anything. So Illinois wins the first big ten game in almost two years. That's a three. They have a winning record. Now that's something Iowa was uncharacteristically creative and open. They go for big fourth down early and get it. They go. They have a trick play that goes in for a touchdown near in the red zone and made Stanley does a very good ball. Very good job. Throwing the ball downfield against Minnesota defense. That's been pretty good. So nice to see that. Element emerging for Iowa northwestern. They are your classic big, big ten grower. You know, they're the reason you like them before the season began and to go to Michigan state who has had injury issues in troubles up front, protecting Brian. The work ULA LJ Scott doesn't play for Sparta yesterday, so their offense is just incredibly limited, which is disappointing because their defense potentially has this incredibly high ceiling, Wisconsin is as I mentioned earlier, beat up and I think they had an ejection the secondary. I, I would give the credit to Adrian Martinez and it was Spielman right? Who got for a million yards for Nebraska so good to see the fight from Nebraska. Ultimately, their defense is just a ways away, and Wisconsin's defense is coming aways back a little bit, but that's okay because their offense looked pretty incredible. I thought the line did a great job. We've over the big twelve three games here that we gotta get through quickly. We had West Virginia thirty eight. Kansas, twenty two. This game was never really in doubt. Kansas did hang around for a while. We'll Greer three thirty two passing four touchdowns also four turnovers, which you're going to need to clean up, especially as they go to Iowa State next week, Iowa State. By the way, Dan, a big win over Oklahoma state forty, eight to forty two. And you got to explain something to me. I'm ready. How the hell desire estate keep finding these third string quarterbacks. How do they third string quarterback Brock, Purdy moms in second series of the game. He was ridiculous. Three eight, passing four touchdowns. He also led the team in rushing with eighty four yards and a touchdown. How do they keep harvesting third string quarterbacks that are very productive? How does Matt Campbell do this urine? You're out? So there's obviously buying so Brock Purdy if you are recruiting nerd, you will remember. So he's a true fr. Fishermen from Arizona. I want to say. And so he had good high level group of five offers. Then sort of last minute, Alabama comes in and offers taxonomy comes in and offers ultimately commits Iowa State. But he was looking at UCF Boise state schools like that, and he's through for a ton of yards his senior year in high school, but to come in as a true freshman, I guess it's good that we're into October. He wasn't counted on early, but Zab Nolan inefficient early on Cal camped, obviously beat up and for him to come in with that sort of confidence receiving core that is without their star from last season and to immediately just there. I guess there is something about Matt Campbell in his staff that gets these guys so confident and so comfortable within this offense. He runs, he throws, he goes what? Eighteen of twenty three over three hundred yards. Akeem Butler has some big plays. Milton had a couple of big plays at withing. One went for sixty. So I think it is just be confidence. Preparedness of Matt Campbell in his staff along with the buy from these players in Oklahoma state Taylor, Cornelius has a good game and it's also Iowa State weathering. You know, Justice hill making plays on the ground and through the air and getting four different guys caught touchdown passes Oklahoma state doing everything they needed to do on offense. But ultimately, after that Boise state went in, which that defense looked so good, they've taken. They've taken to significant steps back against Iowa State, Texas Tech. And finally, in the big twelve, we had Baylor thirty, seven k. state thirty four. Baylor minus four was one of my locks, Dan, the fact that the only one this game by three is pretty ridiculous. I am. I am bitter about this because they basically could have blown out case state. They made a lot of stupid mistakes. They had one of those half back passes where the half MAC, like decided before the play, that he was gonna, throw it into whatever coverage, just a lot of dumb stuff. They couldn't stop Alex Barnes. On the ground who had a big game for case day, but ultimately they win on field goal here. Thirty seven to thirty four. Yeah. And I mean there's the old adage of, you know, I you lose ugly, then you lose close than you win close and then you win pretty whatever. And so in that perhaps in granted, aside from that Oklahoma loss that maybe they're going to win some games close in that step up. Connor brewer has a nice enough day. I like the the day that they're both Denzel mims if you saw his ridiculous bobbling touchdown, catch and Jalen Hurd has a nice day and Kansas state showing fight. Alex Barnes was ridiculous. Both through the air and on the ground probably better on the ground. So good for Baylor. This game was tied with eight minutes left and they close out a game against a team that is certainly beatable that that's something also just in terms of the first game you talked about, what are you doing? We'll career three, three interceptions in the red zone. Santa Grier needs to be retired way too. Especially with what West Virginia has coming up. But really fun day, I would say in the big twelve. All right. Let's move over the ACC quick four games that we need to discuss here. Yep, I will run through them quickly. We had clips in sixty three Wake Forest three in what I describe as a good net crack. Good, never cry. Different running back. Yeah. Yeah. For clips in Trevor, Lawrence was back, they had three guys, three running backs. All of whom had ten carries over one hundred yards. You know, what else could you say about Clemson? Dan, when they play like this, this is the kind of team and the kind of effort that I think we were expecting all along had some trouble week ago against Syracuse with Trevor Lawrence going down. Alternately they pull that one out, not big of a deal, but sixty three to three. Yeah, this is this is more what we're talking about what the Clemson Tigers. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence to be expected maybe a little bit of rust even though he played last week, but coming back from an injury, and he had some moments where he did show that situationally, but Clemson does the right thing. They lean on the town in the backfield. They lean on the defense. And I mean, you can play for both Clemson and Georgia Tech are murder sound if you want. Oh, yeah. I was waiting until we got to Georgia Tech. Okay, right. So let's let's talk about your stack, joy. This is a special game here. Oh, and this one was personal ties was personal, Georgia Tech sixty six Louisville thirty one. One Louisville gives up. I can't even. I can't even believe that this is a real thing. We'll gave up five hundred forty two yards and eight touchdowns on the ground. Just got. What a disgrace BV g gets absolutely mold on defense here as Louisville's defensive coordinator. Georgia Tech goes on to win by five touchdowns. Did you happen to see the drive chart for this game? Did you happen to me. Yet Georgia Tech just ran all over. Low of a level is bad. I mean, I don't, you know, I don't know if that's implying things, but offensively they make a little bit of noise at times. But while Georgia Tech to con- Marshall, wow, I think I, I saw the drive chart on was Thursday night. These are this is how Georgia Tech started the game. Touchdown, touchdown touchdown field goal, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown touchdown. That's incredible. Yeah. So, yeah, Tecos to three and three as the meat of their schedule shapes up and the schedule is okay. I mean, they have a beatable Duke unbeatable Virginia Tech unbeatable North Carolina. Miami is going to be tough. Beatable, Virginia and the lose to Georgia. But sometimes they win. I guess, Georgia, I think they're gonna lose to this Georgia team. That's all go to NC state twenty eight BC twenty three Boston College. I look a different team without AJ. Dylan didn't make the gas was hurt. NC state a good effort here. They outgained Boston College by two hundred yards. The hell Boston College to one of ten on third downs, NC state a very, very quiet, five now very quiet, five. And now at this point, good on them, they've got some big time action coming up as we said, NC state squaring off against Clemson next week. Yeah, Ryan Finley a couple of mistakes, but ultimately very, very good in this game and BC almost comes back but excited to see what NC state can do as their opponents get better. And finally, pit forty, four Syracuse, thirty seven. This game featured a seventy five minute weather delay followed by overtime. So if you were in the stadium, if you were at Heinz field watching this game and he stayed for the full duration you, my friend are a true believer in pit or Syracuse college football, good on you. Lot of points here Syracuse basically cannot stop the run. That is what we're finding weaken a week out the and it wasn't even a letdown situation from the Clemson last last week, at least early on because I thought Syracuse looked pretty short sharp. Excuse me in the maybe that was a weird. They looked, no, they did. They look pretty sharp early on, but ultimately good for Pittsburgh's offense for staying patient and giving the ball the Darren Hall and cadre Allison who was just a total dude yesterday against the Syracuse defense and a nice overtime win for pit in some weird circumstances, weird weather and good to see it. I don't know how much better this makes me feel about Pitt, but the schedule's not terrible moving forward. They can win a couple more. And by the way, these uniform, the pit uniforms with the lighter blue and the yellow powder blue there. So I don't know. I don't know what shade of blue there, but there's so much better than that navy and gold law. It's not even close. I love them. Absolutely. All right, let's move to the SEC four games here to discuss Alabama sixty five, Arkansas thirty one Alabama one by thirty four and true to form. Nick. Sabin was pissed off about his defense given up thirty one points now. Okay, I get it. The defense has to play better. But this team Dan is blowing out all of its competition. It's not even close none of these games that we've seen so far from Alabama, have been close to a tongue via lower tongue in this ball game ten of thirteen, three hundred and thirty four yards passing four touchdowns stew of which went to our friend, Jerry June. Yes, I'm just struck by the fact. I wish I had deeper commentary on Alabama wish I could say something that hasn't already been said, but this team is so good that literally none of the games they have played through six weeks of the college football season have been competitive. None of them. No, not even at halftime by the half they were out of reach. And yes, Arkansas did a good job building up offense of drives down the field. I think they had a fumble near the goal line once unfortunately for the hogs. But I thought that was a good amount of buying from this offense and just fight given from where this argument they. This is an Arkansas team that lost to North Texas and Colorado state in the Toronto pretty far away from where they imagine themselves to be in a couple of years, I suppose. But yes, good for Arkansas's offense. Moving the ball, not consistently, but more than most against Saleh Bama team and. I, I don't know to through more than a pass if any in the second half. So we're talking about Alabama team that probably could have put ninety on Arkansas has a really wanted to, and this is something by the way to a gets a lot of credit rightfully so these receivers stepping in Jerry Judy, especially, but rugs has done a very nice job or Smith has done a nice job for replacing guys at those positions. Damon Harris, obviously, Najah Harris back, but there is something just and again to is great in probably the best quarterback college football, but we're dealing with what to new coordinators and they've gotten better. So it's Josh Gad is from Penn State in Mike Loxley. I think Mike Loxley sort of be guy running this offense, but maybe I'm wrong, but there's the openness and flexibility and ease with which Alabama is doing things on offense from the coaching staff on down. Is it so murdering tie? Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah, Georgia forty-one. Vandy thirteen. The dogs trailed in this game. Dan for grand total of fifteen seconds before Jake Frahm through a seventy five yard touchdown, pass to Terry Godwin Godwin fought off a couple of defenders. And before you knew it, Georgia was off to the races. Jake Frahm had a nice day three touchdown passes total. Just another instance of a game in the SEC not being competitive. The only thing I'll point out here is that the dogs have thirteen penalties, and they've got a big game next week in a particularly spicy week, seven against LSU on the road. They gotta clean that up against a team like LSU but ultimately get the job done here with twenty eight point w yeah, Georgia was better. They overwhelm them. There was a wave of dog that overwhelmed fan. He and Jake from I think continues to be. I mean, it's it's unfortunate that too is as good as he is if you are a Georgia fan because he continues to just be great and he's just not a God like to a Hesp him. All right. And what else we got here ole miss a big win over you l. row seventy two twenty one. And finally South Carolina. Thirty seven weird one Missouri thirty five. We had a nice little monsoon game here. Dan. Yes, we champ. He was soggy. For one. It was weird because of the weather for two. It was weird because Jake Bentley didn't play. He had the bum knee, which meant that we saw backup, Michael, scarred Nekia. Yeah, for the Gamecocks he looked really good played your lock. We talk so much about drew walk in how he thought could throw on the South Carolina defense, right? That wasn't really so much the case. It was scar Nekia getting the better of an opposing defense yesterday in a wild game back and forth wet field, but ultimately itself Carolina that wins game thirty seven thirty five. Yep, Missouri ran the ball well, which is which is nice to see for down game from their their passing attack. But he, I thought the story was South Carolina, not just scar Nikki over the course of this game in ugly weather, but the fact that Missouri drives down the field goes up by one late with what a minute, half minute twenty left in scar Nekia then takes the ball and takes them back down for South Carolina to kick a game winning field goal. That is that is a different kind of wind to me for South Carolina and cool to see from the Gamecocks. Now let's finally go on over to the Pac, twelve. Dan, Oregon was not in action Sturday guess which, yeah, it sounds like you're enthusiastic about that, but give give me the lowdown on the conferences a whole. So we saw another beast effort from LA, viscous Chenault. Yup, four total touchdowns we saw a nice win. We saw some signs of life from UCLA. Really and what we've got two unbeaten teams in conference play in Washington and Colorado, and they face each other later this month, I believe. Yes. So at the top, I would say we already talked about Utah Stanford, but there was a lot of in my brain thinking, Washington, what. What are you doing? What's going on? Just not a ton of rhythm on offense and even defensively UCLA was able to throw on this Washington secondary, a couple of big broken plays. And I think it more speaks to UCLA's fight and belief in themselves even in the face of starting the season, o and five during Thompson Robinson showed and made the plays that should get Bruins excited about what this team could look like in a couple of years. Weird to see Washington's defensive front pushed around like they were, Josh, Kelly runs well for UCLA. They're in this game late. They string together a couple of nice scoring drives to to make this a one possession game. Washington takes us, but something very strange about this Washington team. Maybe it's a look ahead thing going to Oregon next week. I can buy that, but this is UCLA. Well, this is it it. It felt like Washington, it was just out of sync, look thin. We've been talking all year. Yeah, they haven't found that next year on offense that we all thought they had. Right. It could be through six weeks of the year that it's not there. It could be DEA. They're very good. Washington could just be good. They're very, very good or greats. They're very good, but Washington as like this, playoff contender, preseason thinking that they'd go out there and tear off people's arms and legs that team that team may not exist. Yeah, it's just that weekend, weak out, Washington performing to its capability is just doesn't exist that that sort of consistency, that sort of focused and disciplined just doesn't exist with this Washington team. Can they win double digits for sure. They can. Oh, yeah, definite. Should they beat Oregon and pretty much everybody left on their schedule? I don't. I don't think they play USC. Stanford looks much more human than normal, Colorado's tricky, but they have that game in Seattle, and I think they go on the road to to play in the apple Cup, but that's not a game. They lose under crispier Sohn. Traditionally, even the wazoo looks good. This year looked good against Oregon state ultimately yesterday. Yeah, Washington looks human, but a really good humor. I guess there go, but like cool, it definitely cool to see even with basically nobody there UCLA playing hard. I like that Colorado wins by seven over zone state Colorado now five and for the first time since nineteen ninety eight. That was a big statement from their defense holding up really strong against the sun devils late and Aqeel. Harry doesn't play the second half which socks he gets. He gets injured but really nice from Stevie Montanez to Trevan McMillan had nice day Levinsky Chanel, we're going to have to retire as dude, like TRL style retirements just because yes, Louis gestalt is a dude. This is you can set your watch to the dude -ness of Levesque Al lobby ska Arizona state ran six plays in the fourth quarter by the way, not good enough Colorado held the ball. There's take her twelve minutes and forty four seconds out of the fifteen. In the fourth quarter, they win breasts of twenty eight to twenty one. You meant. You mentioned was who briefly they knock off Oregon state by fifty six to thirty-seven margin Oregon state Dan over their last nine games versus f. b. s. opponents has allowed fifty point six points per game. Yes, they have. And still it feels like they're getting better. There definitely are getting better and they're pulling out, stops you. We saw last night against Washington state on offense on special teams trick plays, but executing and scoring scoring, thirty seven against his Washington state team. Granted the cougs scoring pretty consistently. So they had the opportunities, but Oregon state, I think they actually have three or four pretty high level transfers coming in the quarterback that that left Nebraska, a pretty good all purpose player from Nebraska as well. A guy from Oklahoma high level talent is coming to Corvallis. We'll see how quickly that actually pays off Dan. Can I ask you very quickly if you could dial up some divorce, Jack for me as well. My gosh, if mind Larry Zona twenty four. Cal seventeen after Arizona scored a touchdown and feel goal on its first two drives of the football game. Here is what you missed the rest of the way through. Dan, let me know what I'm ready. Thank you. Pun pun, pun, end of half interception, punt fumble misfield, go pun and GERD. Yeah, it was bad, not very good, but they do win that being said by twenty four to seventeen score over the Cal golden bears seven of those points. The juice of the weird interception pick six. Nothing like the interception run. Stripped somebody else picks it up and finishes the pick six in love that it's the what? What is group? No hitter called the combined. No hitter the combined. No hitter. Yeah. Love a good combined. Pick six. And finally in other action, just three more games here to mention briefly, San Diego State nineteen Boise. Thirteen. A good job by San Diego stays defense holding Boise to just thirteen forcing down over voice. Yeah, weird ending, Utah state knocks off BYU four, five to twenty. And finally UCF UCF forty eight SMU twenty. I didn't realize that UCF was all the way up to number twelve in the polls, but they are UCF putting together another impressive campaign. Yeah, and I would say just before we reinforce some dude nece you've mentioned Utah state at four and one going to BYU in winning that game. Pretty impressive. Houston needs to come back against against Tulsa, but therefore one cincy, six NO Cincinnati behind a really good defense. They'll be tested in the back half of their scheduled buffalo five in one temple three and three, but a nice win over an improved ECU team, Illinois. We mentioned the first big, ten win, and I you has that ridiculous non conference schedule, but they're back to five hundred. They haven't lost in conference there. Three and three Georgia Southern foreign one after a nice win San Diego State. You mentioned USF. I think a lot of people sort of liked UMass to keep a close because they have good quarterback USF ultimately lays waste them their quiet, five annot UAB and Bill Clark. Foreign one after only having a program for a couple years after that cancellation Hawaii, six and one why is bull eligible tie? Boom, a nice win. Well, the pretty good win over Wyoming whose definitely down this year in Fresno state foreign one after another. Another really dominant defensive effort yesterday. All right. There you go, Dan, that does it for your week. Six recap. Appear on solid verbal, don't forget. You can find all of our shows out on solid rebel dot com or wherever find podcasts are sold distributed or downloaded for free. I know we've gotten messages from people out there who've been trying to listen on Stitcher and Spotify and their places. 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Real quick just an extra shoutout Brian burns, and that that defensive line for Florida state, Levy, scotch, and you're retired, just assume, dude, Levy, ska, all three Clemson running backs, just destroying Wake Forest braided man. Once again, you have a dominant punter in the state of Texas. I'm gonna shout them out great job for say an who had believe, had a touchback on a punt from his own eighteen, which, wow, Jakob pledged quite polite for for Florida. Sam etlinger once again, doing everything for Texas, Nick FitzGerald, and his record setting day against Auburn, Qadri Alison for pit. Once again, ridiculous Davis cues, Dexter Williams, tie, come on. You got a guy in the backfield again. That's right. JD Spielman for Nebraska was all over the place against Wisconsin Dicker the kicker with all sorts of stones. I Oklahoma for that game winning kick. And then Derrick Pitts was all over the place for West Virginia. I said, I didn't like west Virginia's defense coming into the season and granted it's Kansas. But when somebody plays, well, I'm going to tip my cap, dark pets, great job. No, right. Well, those are your dudes for weeks. Six. This is your podcast for week. Six. We will be back on Wednesday and talk about as spicy week. Seven. Oh, in the meantime, for that guy over there, my good friend, Dan Rubenstein for myself over here in eastern PA. Thanks again for tuning into the show. We'll catch y'all at a few. In the meantime, stay saw.

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4/29: What Was The Biggest Surprise Of The NFL Draft?

The Audible with Feldman And Mandel

45:42 min | 1 year ago

4/29: What Was The Biggest Surprise Of The NFL Draft?

"Welcome to the audible, presented by trader Joe's. I'm Stewart Mandel joined has always by Bruce Feldman, and the last the we said we're going to wait and do this when we were together and Phoenix later this week, but the side to speed things up a little bit marched parked has. We've got a lot of thoughts coming off the NFL draft that we wanna share while they're still more fresh before we get to that. So I have a question for you found out something tonight. We're taping Sunday. And usually I will sit like it's REM wait for them to get to sleep. And I'm while I do that in the dark all glance on my phone. It's come to my attention that I might be the only person in the United States who does not watch game of thrones. Oh, no, no, no. This has been an might be there been kind of a weird weekend for me about it. It's been a weird weekend to be on Twitter because I've never watched any of the vendors movies, and that seems to be all anybody's talking about. And I've never watched game of thrones. And on Sunday night. It was like a sporting event was going on. It was live play by play of some sort of battle going on game of thrones. I'm sure most people watch listen to this watch it and think that we're couple eightieths. But I got nothing at on that. Yeah. I just like I'm looking whom I got everybody. I know not only follow this show. But there are like they are so invested in it, which is you know, that's great. Let's talk about the draft. So I spent a ton of time watching it. All three days, but I know one one it should be very very polarized. Call a polarizing, I'm not sure I felt like anybody was supportive of it. Which was the giants taking dukes Daniel Jones with the sixth overall pick you liked it though. Didn't you know who that is there anybody other than David cliff with a smart move, probably not unless somebody's connected to the the manning cut cliff kind of connection there? I don't think there was a ton of people who liked it. Well, if you go back to last year's draft the one that really could founded me, Josh Allen. I felt like you take in this kind of completely unproven middle of the pack quarterback from the mountain west and the NFL draft really kind of did not play. Well, the only games that he had when they played power five teams. I mean, his numbers were pretty horrible. And he also like two years ago when he was a second last season. She had a bunch of guys on his offense who ended up playing in the NFL. His final year there. He did not. But I think people fell in love with a huge arm, and he was pretty outlet. And my crew did a bills game last year in all things being equal. Meaning his best receiver was was Robert Foster undrafted free agent by the end of the year. That's you know, I guess it wasn't as bad as I think probably you or in some other folks would have expected, but still we're talking top ten picks here. Yeah. And the thing is Josh Allen. I mean, if you remember one point in that cycle he was projected to be the number one pick Melkite by doing okay. The number one pick at one point because I'm looking back at an article I wrote about it at the time. This would have been in late February twenty eight teen just showing that there's just almost no precedent for a quarterback who puts up such mediocre staff in college to become a star NFL quarterback. Now, there are plenty of cowed quarterbacks who put up big numbers and don't do anything in the NFL. But I don't really see it the other way around. So before we go go too far down this one at bring up something that came up on on this very topic. So Dan Orlovsky does really great ex- knows work former uconn quarterback spent like a dozen years in the NFL. He tweeted out something to the fact of which I think I agree with, and I think you probably agree with which is kind of getting what you're saying. Can we remember a guy wasn't great in the NFL in college? And then expected him to be that way in at the next level. And I can remember one guy was that. And that's Tom Brady. Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback in pro football history. But I didn't end yet. Maybe I'm using semantics, but I did not think Tom Brady, you know, you could say Tom Brady was good in his last years at at Michigan. But it wasn't like, you know, he was probably if you were to look at it the fourth best quarterback in the big ten his senior year behind drew Brees hall of Famer Antwan Randle El was a fantastic playmaker at Indiana. And even if you look at what Kirk Kitchener did that you're twenty five to five touchdown interception ratio for Illinois. I think probably would have you would have said at a better year. But again, that's where they're kind of semantics get Dan Wetzel. You know, who I've respect for? He was kind of going back and forth on it. And it was like, no what you can't argue Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time and dance point was I think he was not used right? Well, that's probably true. Because we'll yeah. I mean figured it out. What will what my history of said if Willie car hadn't felt compelled? I really drew hats. Was the I was either number one player in the country. If he was at least the number of quarterback, this is this is actually predated the two four seven Araya's era. So I think this pressure that he had to play drew Henson. And so he never was an he he wouldn't just turn it over fulltime to Brady they were always splitting. But again, I'm not even sure how how comparable that is the situation. Tom Brady went in the sixth round right expectations. Yeah. Who had been who was just good, but not great in college. And then all of a sudden, you're gonna take them in the top ten look. Here's all pro. If you do that. Oh, yeah. And I think if you're you're expected to be a franchise guy, you know. And so I mean, we think about some of the guys who've gone that high have turn out to be kind of. 'cause Ryan leaf was a great college quarterback. I would see, you know, that's the guy people associated with bust. Jamarcus? Russell jamarcus. Russell wasn't a bad college quarterback. You know by any stretch, obviously, the huge arm. I mean, you go back Christian. Ponder went really high. I mean Christian. Ponder was not a you know, what what do you think of Christian? Ponder. When I besides whose marriage. What do you think of him as a college quarterback? I mean, he would not ordering. That. I mean, college football has changed. So I would say actually NFL football changed so much since then that at that time, it was just kind of assumed that if you were a certain height and you played a pro style offense you were going to get drafted high. Right. It wasn't that Christian. Ponder was a fantastic house quarterback is that he fit the mold and the one that I brought up last year comparison to who I found to be the closest comparable college quarterback. Josh Allen recently was Jake locker who is another thick is being made purely on potential and physical specimen and not anything. I'm gonna do this college career. So I just looked up. So I will Josh Allen. There was months hype surrounding him. I think the thing is so perplexing to many of us about the June's kind of came out of nowhere. I knew he was being talked about as a in the upper tier of quarterbacks. First round. You're talking about came out in order to be a top ten pick. Right. There was talk. You might crack the first round. And I thought that was a little weird. But I wasn't really I didn't think too much of it. But number six pick him draft. You like you said now the expectation that you will succeed manning and be the franchise quarterback in in the biggest city in the country. And it's just it's just not going to happen. There's there's absolutely no precedent for somebody. Who was so middle of the road in college to beat NFL star quarterback. Scott Pelley tweeted, this kind of a complimentary impressed way. Unfortunately, some people took it, but I was throwing him under the bus. I don't know why. But he came out firing that night after the draft and his lead. And he said, I probably watch more football than the average person because they're always on in that first window of the day, and I often have money on them and cetera et cetera. And at no point he said I ever feel like I was watching quarterback would go number six in the draft. So. It. The whole thing is is really bizarre and chose you. There's a little bit of like, I think a lot of if not most of the NFL at this point has moved on from the, oh, you know, they height, and they have a certain arm strength. Therefore, we're in love with you know, clearly collar Murray is the opposite of that. But this guy Dave Gettleman, literally said he watched three series of the senior on fell in love with him. It's almost like he's the old guy in moneyball who doesn't want to these. These are these kids with all their analytics, you just go with your gut. That's my take away from that. So I know Dave Gettleman I'm gonna give you a quick really really random story when I was in into tenth grade. I went to football camp Ameris college. So they've got him. It was our high school football coach back, then he wasn't there at my school for very long end up going to be a sky. Dave Gettleman was your coach he wasn't my coach. By that time. I was in. I was only ninth grade. But he was already with the varsity. He was varsity head coach high school for a couple years before he went. I believe he went to the bills first. And then the giants as a scout. And I think he learned under Bill Polian. But yeah, so here's my memory of him was go to this camp. And by the way, pretty short John Dorsey who's now GM with the with the Browns also worked at camp, he was a linebacker at uconn at the time, and I think he was one of the counselors. But anyway, so I was there after a couple of days, and I just did not feel right? I was pretty sick. And I just didn't know what was wrong. So I remember coach cattleman who is like, you know, kind of responsible for all of us, especially from my hometown. He takes me into the Marras college dining hall, and he fills up one of those old style trays with with the little short juice glasses and gives me like, I don't know a dozen asses of apple juice, and he says something is a really thick Boston accent. And he said you're gonna drink so much this you're gonna think you have Antlers and. I don't know if he was going to be out whatever I had or what I mean, look the eighties. But a couple of days later, we found out actually have mono, and I think I missed the first month of school. So I hadn't seen you know. Like, I remember I talked to him at the at the NFL combine probably three years ago. I knew wasn't gonna remember me. There was no reason for them to for that. But yes, so that's my connection to the Daniel Jones giant story. Not going to say, I'm not gonna say that you're you're dead wrong in these right? 'cause I I like I like the do guys respect them. And I've heard a lot about Daniel Jones. But I think a lot of what you said I'm skeptical. I mean to me, and I've said this foreign podcast Dwayne Haskins is the closest thing to a not a sure thing, but the the best of this quarterback bunch. And I think there's a big difference to me between Wayne Askins and everybody else who's not Cuyler Murray. So you look at this. And I think man po-point this out fifty nine two seven against wait for. That's how you get get drill by that's one hundred forty five yards. I get that. You know, Duke doesn't have the weapons that Oklahoma. Or certainly to a has or definitely that. What what Wayne asking says? But he wanted against Wake Forest as defense. Wasn't like Wake Forest has has clemson's guys there either. I don't know. I mean, you know, one of his best games was against your mater on the road sixteen for twenty two three touchdowns zero picks. But I don't know I'm with you on that scam not much on the he didn't have a great support. I mean, Brock you think I will stay me at Brock party had Akeem Butler, but I don't think he has like Brocker, but he has a terrific running back to. I don't know if I was to pass around the country is a true freshman last season. You know, you don't have to play for Alabama Clemson Ohio State to put up. Good good pass efficiency numbers and for the record. Daniel Jones was sixty six in the country in pass efficiency sixty percent passer. Twenty six hundred seventy four yards twenty two touchdowns nine interceptions. His passer rating is actually lower than Tom Brady's was in college. So I wanna ask you though, speaking of quarterbacks, you know, you've you have unique vantage point on Josh Rosen. You've known him. You know, you've covered him. He was in your book since high school, and I feel like this latest chapter where he's this bizarre situation where he goes from being number ten pick in the draft. You know, supposedly quarterback of the future to trade it away for for a number sixty two pick a third round pick a year later. You saw a lot of NFL media type suddenly that morning, I guess mostly because he stopped following the cardinals on Twitter start talking about his well there's concerns around the NFL about. Josh row. People don't like Josh Rosen. And I feel like this comes up every it came up when he was recruit they came up when he's going into the draft. And now coming up again. Well, I think polarizing personality I think some of what is kind of fodder right now some of the stuff that started when he was a recruit. Right. So I think he was a kid, and you know, I saw this some of, you know, somewhat when I was working on the QB book was he would it didn't seem like much of a filter now in fairness to him. He was seventeen years old and he had a microphone in front of him. When a lot of times, some of these kids don't, and so there was that piece of it. You know, there's a doc well-known story about him. And and David Shaw, the Stanford coach, and look he would have been better than whoever they had at quarterback that we see, you know, Keller. Chris didn't end up having eight great, you know, college career whatnot. But it was just like, okay. What am I comfortable as I think you had stuff like that? Then you have I don't drink. This is. Any fault of his but he had three different offense coordinators three years at UCLA. None of that was his fault and the two of the coordinators that I know pretty well really like Josh Rosen. Thank he's really talented, but also really liked them. So I think some of it. He's not the only quarterback that comes from a lot of money. There's quite a few quarterbacks who come from. Let's see about the nature of the position. But but that position more than a lot of others because I feel like sometimes those families need to, you know, spend all this money in their quarter in their kids development. You get a lot of kids who come from affluent background. So I don't necessarily think it's that. But I just think it's a combination of a lot of factors. And then it's just a weird story. You know, because I saw the one of the mind the herald reports tweeted something out, and I don't know out resource Orwell source that person is on this. But just basically said the the person is the issue, and then you saw a lot of use awesome. Other people fire back at him, including some former Arizona Cardinals. And I think you saw. Larry FitzGerald, who's probably the most qualified person of anybody who's in the cardinals locker room, the speak on him, you know, speak allowing Lee about Josh Rosen this weekend. So I don't know. I mean, I think in the end it's probably worked out for him. Well, in that he's you know, he's going to have a similar chance in Miami. He can't have a worse offense. Hainan Miami, then he had narrow Zona. And, you know, look, I think if you're with Kingsbury, you got a guy in Kyle or you're you're probably more comfortable, and they they drafted a bunch of wide receivers and Isabela aforementioned Hakim Butler, but I don't know how much better they're gonna be on the offense align so so we'll see how that works out. You know, Stephanie one of the more interesting subplots of this weekend was everything then Rosen, I think to his credit and a lot of people recognize this gave a very classy gesture and in the minute long video that he posted thanking the Zona fans, and I think people saw maybe a different side of if they don't know much about. All right from a college football standpoint. Obviously, there are things that won't come as prize. Right. Yes. She had the most picks again they actually set the record in the Super Bowl era for graphics. Alabama has a lot of guys picked Clemson has a lot of guys pit Clemson. You know, we we talked in this podcast last summer about potential for historic defensive line ended up with three I read guys. And then I think awesome Brian win in the fourth remorse. So the one that sticks out to me a little bit is Notre Dame. Because obviously last year there was they were very, you know, well, they're always very polarizing, but when they got blown out in the ball game if became yet another referendum on that. They don't belong than not they're not elite. And I think we know that they are not as stacked with five stars upon five stars like clumps in Alabama are, but I did find it a little curious that some of their most hype players from from this playoff team last season. Didn't turn out to be all that highly regarded by the NFL Jerry Taylor did go in the first round. But you know, when you're all American cornerback. Join love it turns out to be a fourth round draft pick. They swore by drew twin quill he's a fourth round guy. Dexter williams. The star running back who can't you know, suspended early on comes in really reunites. The offense a sixth round pick. You only other ones they had Myles boykin Sieber went in the third round. And as allies MAC tight end went in the seventh round. So it is a decent number of picks to be drafted who drafted which just there's a big difference between the rounds that the clumps in Alabama and Ohio State players and Oklahoma players. We're going in versus the Notre Dame players. So I'm wondering if you think that that's in any way, I mean take Julian love, right? And I know you're not you don't give out those awards based on NFL draft stock, but quarterback is a position where I think if we look up the list of Thorpe award winners. There's gonna be a pretty strong correlation with they went onto to be big names in the NFL to Julian love get hyped up more than he probably should have because he was a Notre Dame because he played at Notre Dame as opposed to Oklahoma state. What you read into this? I don't know. I mean on one hand to me the biggest example of that was meant I to- he won every award. You could the linebacker and made a real run at the is when he was one of the three finalists. And then I remember interviewing a bunch of NFL personnel people when he's going into the draft. Obviously, the Leno was alumni Kuku was a kukupa. Yeah. So whole cat fishing thing. That was all bazaars. It was you know, when you talk to people this wasn't Patrick Willis as a talent. He was a very good player. But I mean, if you would the hype around them in college was that he was more than Patrick Willis that he was like one of the greatest linebackers we've ever seen and that obviously hasn't been the reality. You look at what you know. He's at the NFL. I mean, he's basically an average linebacker or slightly above average linebacker. And again, I think that speaks to maybe the height they're a little bit. I do think it's you can have it kind of both ways a little bit on this. Because Norman put out a stat through Michael berz. They're they're us ide- about Jerry Tillery, the ninth first round pick that Notre Dame's had in the past eight years, and that's actually the third most of any program in that over that span. So on one hand, and I went back and kind of chart it that if you look at the previous eight years before Brian Kelly took over they only have one first round pick. And I was Brady Quinn. So they have gotten better if you look at the well it only to other schools about more first round picks. And that's you know, first round elite talent. I mean, I think that would make the case a better case for it. So yeah with interesting is they they'd had years where they had a lot of hydraulics two thousand six. Eighteen they had Ronnie Stanley. We'll go in the first round. Jalen Smith went and second. We know he would have gone. I before that injury. Nick Martin was in the second round twenty fourteen they had one two three three guys in the first or second to more in the third and just last year. They had both went Nelson. Mike mcglinchey go in the top ten picks. So anything it really just says that this team that went to the playoffs last season may not have been quite as loaded with elite talent as some of his previous teams. I mean, again, I think I think they're good. I don't you know, I think what you're talking about. Maybe as just a gap between them and and everybody else them being Alabama. Really? Because that to me is different. Clemson as as I was perked up. But I think right now, it's Alabama. That's that's the difference. Was there any that puzzle? Ju- either a guy beyond Daniel Jones who way earlier somebody like this guy's still on the board. It can't say that I was sitting here with the big board of here's your supposed to killing what round by the time. He got. Into late around. But I remember when Trayvon Williams name popped up for the Bengals in the fourth round. No, maybe keep going sick. Yeah. I remember thinking he was the SEC's leading rusher last season. He turned pro a year early. I don't remember anybody being like, oh, I don't know about that. He might he would have been smart to come back for another year. No, the feeling was he'd reached a certain stardom level where you do turn pro. And okay, not first round not second round, okay with sixth around. Yeah. That really surprised me was something. I should is there something I'm missing on trivia Williams. She was the name that I was going to go with tweeted this much. I was stunned. He into hundred fifty picks was still available on the board. Other running backs were going. He's not the biggest running back, but he's all these one hundred eighty five pounds. Now. I think it was noteworthy that the team that picked them, by the way, do the SEC in Russia, the SEC, by considerable gap there like, I don't know. Back for another year. It has another big year that that would really even elevated Stott like what what were they need to see, you know, in one one thing that again, I was going to get to is. I think it's noteworthy that the team that took him with the Bengals. And by the way, the Bengal offense allying goes was Jim Turner who came from Texas 'em. So I think he'd probably a pretty good indicator going. Hey, you might wanna take this guy. No. He got Joe mix and everybody is high in his talent. I would expect Trayvon Williams to have a a good career in the NFL. But your point I think about the specially running backs as kind of a larger point in. So our colleague and buddy. Max Olsen seem to have stirred up quite the little hornet's nest with a tweet he sent out and we're going to have max onto defend himself on this or to to kind of frame it better. But he's stuck in travel somewhere to resign ah. But what happened is related to Mike Leach has got himself feud with the other half of the pony express. Now interesting what were the? Odds of that. Crazy. I don't know if I, you know, by the way, are you too young to know who Lance mcilhenny is. Not only that is okay. He was actually the quarterback about team. So I don't know if could cross ords with him. But so what happened in not shell was? We'll be Williams who was a good running back for Washington state was a fourth year junior decided to come out, and I'll be honest. None of this is followed till the until spokesman review of Spokane the paper that basically covers was you had done a story about Erickson's tweets and about really taking issue with Leach and alleged that Lee had bad mouth, boob Williams to NFL personnel people. Now what I think we've seen as Leach was skeptical of didn't think he made a good decision to come out. Boobs went undrafted and was one of many underclassmen who went undrafted. And I think to get back to your point though, as a running back, and this is the part where I don't know if he comes back, and this is a kid by the the guy who. I think has a child on the way with his with as either fiancee's or wife, and I think that have another child that from from her previous relationship or so. But would you realistically I don't if that kid comes back. I Washington state. I mean, he's probably not going to be drafted more than a at best six or seven th round. Or anyway, he's gonna put rush for seventeen hundred yards there. People already know pretty good rec- rounded back field. But you kind of know what they are. And I feel like as when it comes to running back values of less your saquon Barkley or that kind of you know, talent you're not going to be anywhere near a top ten pick. And what one running back went in the first round Josh Jacobs. You know, again, I I don't know what it takes for some of these guys too. You know, I could see why running backs roll the dice and say, you know, I only have so many carries in my body. And I'm gonna try to make a living and see if I can catch on because we see plenty of examples running backs who I mean, look at Philip Lindsay. He went undrafted. And he was a revelation for the. Broncos last year. I feel like running back as a position where there's not we get to appoint where there's not much more you can do. And certainly he's in you know, playing the worst possible offense to showcase himself as a running back. But it was interesting window into you know, it we're only getting this from one side. But if air Dickerson, this correct that Mike Leach was bad mouthing this kid's NFL teams. You know? I know that that's part of the process is the NFL teams, obviously, call the college coaches to get to vet these guys. But I would be very uncomfortable of our coach I've very uncomfortable. Badmouthing one of my players unless he's did something really terrible. Because you know, you're trying to part of your appeal. But when you go out on the recruiting chair, you're trying to tell guys, hey, we'll help you get in the league. Well, we're gets out that your badmouthing your players. You know, why would I go there? This guy is not he's not gonna help me. Get in the league's actually going to cost me a chance in the league. Look, I I don't know that we did that. I mean right now. It's like you said, it's one side of the story. I think that what seem to rile up people was a Leech at if you re tweet or screen shotted max is tweet about how many underclassmen again seem to be pretty pretty blatant sub of reference, right? Yeah. So I think that probably was was adding fuel to this fire. I'm not, you know, again, I think that if you're if you're a football coach he's been in the in college football for a long time, you've probably know a ton of personnel people in a ton of coaches. And so I'm sure that they, you know, try to get as much of an honest opinion as they can from from coaches, and I just you know, you just don't know what you're getting. I don't know if you remember, but like a year ago, I think I forgot I think it was to Sean Elliott we took to Twitter to rip Tom Herman rip Texas for what he felt like he was getting you know, he felt like somebody sold him out. Or didn't you know? So I don't know I it's falls into that really murky gray area. And again, I just just the part that was so bizarre own my God. This is the other side of the pony express backfield is like, and I I mean who knows it's just so weird. Matt Hinton tweeted out when he call. Ause the all this year's all undrafted team big-name college players to went on draft in these are not just underclassmen. In fact, most of them are not under five, but Jake Browning, you know, all these inside with teams as free agents, but Jake Browning obviously for your starter. One a lot of games at Washington. But this kind of I think confirms what you know. I think Washington getting pretty frustrated by the end, and he's not seen as an NFL talents. I was gonna lift off some names, let me know any of these really stand out. See you Ron Hagan the Michigan running back David sills West Virginia a little bit a little bit on him and a little bit on the next guy low or non-free little Jordan Humphry. We did some Texas games the coaches, they're just raved about how football smart he is. Now, he's not fast. But he's a six four two hundred thirty pound guy who played in the slot. I'd be surprised if he's not an NFL player at least one that stood out to me Mitch Hyatt quanson because it's a little window into what I like to say, which is. We all do these all American teams or vote on all American teams. And I I fully admit like sports writers self I should not be picking the offense of lineman. You can call coaches and ask who they think offensive linemen are. We don't have who the best offense alive at our. But I do know this because of that because there's no real staffs any office of Wyman who starts a true freshman is basically just slotted into a track where once you become third year fourth year starter you're going to be an American. So that's what happened when the he's a two time all American two time ACC offense lineman of the year and did not get drafted. So my guess is. We didn't really actually know anything about him during the actual playing. We just thought. Well, he's good enough to start for clumps in a playoff team as a true freshman. Pretty good. Yeah. You don't interesting is. I mean, people can knock the ACC. She had some really good pass rushers. You know in that league or the past years, and obviously a bunch of them come from. Clemson. He would have played against them every day. But it reminded me a little bit of Barrett Jones from Alabama and Barrett. Jones was a guy who we all loved in the media because he was very thoughtful kid. He played Alati bounced all over the all over the lower the line and was versatile. But he I don't think went in the top hundred picks. I think he only lasts in the NFL maybe a year or so it doesn't mean he wasn't good player to Alabama always integral part of things. But I just you know, it underscores what you're talking about. Which is you know, it's just something that most sports writers. And I don't wanna throw Andy Staples under the bus. But Andy actually as a national title ring for being an offense alignment at Florida. I'm not sure, you know, I don't know any sports writers. I mean, I'll give the Taylor's coal. Cumulus critic. I think that they're studying it, and that's all they're doing when they're do that Joe more award. But like you said, I mean, the only way. Gonna I feel like yet grasp it as if we talked to a lot of coaches about who they think is good Darryl Willis had a big year. Miami main of our wrote a great story theathe let all the reasons why or theories why he didn't get drafted going back to incident he had five years ago as a freshman at Florida became Florida, CC Jefferson who is a surly five-star coming into school marches Alibaba another Florida yet also five star guy did not draft. It key J Edwards was I believe in all American as a junior at Wisconsin for Guston became known more for the targeting penalties as much as the football. Yeah. I think he gets to a point where you say, oh, I can't believe this guy wasn't a first rounder. I can't believe the end of the day like way more guys get get branded as a first round or or or first day guy. Then there are spots for right? Unfortunately, I don't know. I think you know, some chance some cases we probably greatly overestimated the guy's draft sock. But in other cases, it's just and I feel like this in particular. True with quarterbacks. I mean, the number four Bax with some point their branded as possible first rounder. I remember talking to Gus malzahn going into Nick Marshall lease them to the national championship game. And then going into the next season. He says he's got Nick marshals on NFL arm. You might have. It might not be accurate thing. You know, there's there's all this conversation at a bar with some football coaches a year ago about one of the strongest arms ever seen was a defensive lineman who is in the NFL for awhile and played at Hawaii. They throw the ball ninety arts. I guess that's an NFL arm, but the NFL on this can you can you be accurate, and, you know, look one of the guys who's like who got hyped up a lot. And didn't get drafted wasn't on your wasn't on that Matt hidden list was tie Jackson. He left early at buffalo. He's big as tight end any moves. Okay. He you know, I reported a couple months ago. He did not get he got a stay in school evaluation. The NFL he could have gone a grad transfer. I think there were some people who are a little skeptical of him 'cause they weren't sure. How accurate he was? And I think that was a knock a native. I think a lot of people said, oh, this could be listening another Logan Thomas where he's big he's pretty athletic. You can throw the. Heck out of the ball. But the accurate enough to be NFL quarterback. And there's a lot of skepticism there. I would like I would loved to have seen him come back for another year. Maybe even as grad transfer because I do think there was potential there. They people hadn't seen enough of them yet. I mean, look this goes back to Leach Selena himself who said, you know, and I do agree with this guy's usually don't get much more accurate. They kind of are what they are. You know, they can redefines is better and do some of those things, but our main maybe, you know, some of those things, but you talked to a lot of people who are in the quarterback development is this. They don't usually don't think you get much more accurate. And so I don't know even if he came back, I'm not saying he shouldn't have. But I don't know how much that would have been different. Well, Dave Gettleman try to prove that they're wrong. Millions and millions of dollars toward that there's some actual college football news media discuss Davos, Swinney gets a new contract. I believe on Friday, and the number just just you know, you can't see that number is not out of your head ten years. Ninety three million dollars upping, JIMBO Fisher seventy five million. Now, it's not fully guaranteed like Jim Bose's, but nine point three million a year puts him right behind saving as the number two highest paid coach in college football, your reaction. You know, if there's anybody's worth nine million dollars. You know like you. I've had this conversation is the second bus coaching college football. And he's got the program right there with the number one guy and what he's meant to that that program. I thought what was interesting about the deal is there's language about if he goes to Alabama about you know, where the buyout is. I don't think he'll follow neck saving. It wouldn't shock me. If he followed the guy. Guy who followed saving because that's home for him. But that's far stretch off. You know, he's still he's got two sons, we're playing football there and another son who's in high school, and that's pretty much all they know is Clemson. But my point on this is I think with when you're in the ACC in your Clemson, you know, you have a unique position where if he goes to Alabama, I think it's a harder job because there's there's there's other programs whether it's Georgia or LSU or Texas or certainly Auburn who are very well resource. And they're gonna throw a lot of money at football and at everything around football. And so they're committed playing at the highest level. And obviously, you know, you're gonna be measured against Nick Sabin there. So look one thing that I tried not to get into. But I just kinda like after I tweeted out of the details that I know the story was just a ton of people wait in while there's no money to pay the players, and that is a slippery slope slippery slope topic because. You know, I would have no problem with paying players. It's just the question is like how do you do it? And it's it's not not easily solved in hundred forty characters. I mean when when the day comes and I'll say win, not if the athletes start to be compensated for more than just scholarship is not gonna be they're not going to the schools, cutting them a salary the way they're cutting salary for Davos winning just not practical for a number of reasons, you know, the the model that a lot of us think they should be doing already wouldn't be very hard to implement is the Olympic model where they're being paid by outside parties for whether it's to do endorsements autograph signings to take advantage of their get why that is is something that is is thorny for the NCAA because those endorsement deals, you know, you have five star kids, you know, boosters are going to be going to the highest bidder there now, but they knew that. I mean that that's true. I don't I don't. I don't disagree that there'd be it'd be thorny. But the same schools that get the five stark roots. Now would be the ones whose boosters shell out money to get them. Then. No. Here's my thing. Is that you can make you. Okay. With would you be okay with that? With like, I mean because that would be different reality. If all of a sudden, like let's say, you know, every school has car dealers who were you know, who provide for the coaching staff or whatever most big schools do at least, you know. Let's say they were saying, you know, kids come on Fisher visits. Hey, you're gonna meet Jackson Cadillac and the dealer is gonna come out. And he's gonna go Kay. This is what you're going to get this is what your dad's gonna get this. What your high school? Don't think. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm naive. I just don't think they would it would get to that extent. The number of kit. Think you're naive. I think you're so naive on that. Well, the ghetto point where wouldn't it just wouldn't be good business for the car dealership to be doing twenty five endorsement deals a year? How many players would you say in with all move the needle to the point where like Johnny Manziel want? Even college would have gotten some sort of huge -dorsements deal. Well, let me right now two Trevor Lawrence would have huge indoors deals, but most scholars football players are not that well known to to get that kind of money. I think you are kidding yourself on this anything. Anything boosters would this is what I think would happen. I'm gonna give you a little scenario. So one thing that I was tweet about this on Thursday night was the one area that I think that the online recruiting is do better than any other area of evaluation is with D lineman. Now, these guys, and it's like you see them at some of it's unfair in one on ones in shorts and tee shirt. They have such an advantage or the offense lime. But and there's just guys who are like at Oliver's in Rashawn Gerry's index or Lawrence's are just not a lot on the earth. You know, so, but you look at those I think in the first round there were sixty linemen who were five star, guys frightening. They're all from the same class from two thousand sixteen class or maybe grow Christian Wilkins wouldn't have been he's he's older, but it was Bosa at Oliver, Rashawn, Gary Dexter Lawrence Jeffrey Simmons, and then the other one would be Christian Wilkins. And so my thing is if you're the car dealer, you're definitely gonna pay for those guys. I mean, everybody knew who those guys were I remember I did a store it. I don't know where the hell even worked back. Then when these guys were coming out of who was the biggest impact guy who was most ready to make an impact. And I think I'll at Oliver one that by talking to recruiters, I talked to a lot of these guys. I'm sorry. Like, here's an example, like biggie Marshall from USC who was a cornerback. Didn't have a great career. There wasn't like an all American even close. I think he might have made all conference or second team all conference one year, but he was a five star guy, and he's a big cornerback from southern California. Then you went to maybe the fourth or fifth round here. He would have probably been he's the guy think somebody would have paid a lot of money for. No. Yeah. The the five star guys would absolutely be the ones that they were bidding over I think we're seeing the basketball trial thing that in basketball east the already being bidding wars for these kids. They're just going on the table. So it makes more sense basketball, though, because you know, usually it's easier to predict in basketball, who's gonna be great. I mean, y Leonard's guys who kind of merge, a little later are more rare than they certainly are. And you know, the the Andre Dillard's of the world, I mean, no knocking him. But I don't think it would have been a bidding war for six five two hundred forty pound project who ends up turn out to be a first round pick. But these alignment and some of these other guys and some of these receivers, quite honestly, I think there would be a lot of them. I would say there'd be a couple hundred that they would be getting cars, and their families be getting cars came back to Davos, oh, I know everything is black and white on the internet. But you know, it is possible to simultaneously believe that the players should be getting more. And that Davo given the tremendous impact he's had on that university is worth nine million dollars a year. Grace rain are Clemson writer was able to get the. Day. You know, we published on the the full slide deck PowerPoint, whatever you wanna call it that clemson's AD did to justify this to the board. Why they should give them this big contract in the numbers. It's not just that he's won national championships. It's that, you know, the number of the amount of money they're making on season tickets since dab before he got there now has doubled the number of and this is where it gets. I think where you can start to justify this university standpoint, the number of kids across the country who are flying to go to Clemson has skyrocketed because of clemson's football success as a result when there's more applications that means you're you're getting in his resume. I mean, there was a great Wall Street Journal story about this with Alabama a couple years ago. Nick Sabin has completely transformed the profile that university. So from that standpoint that was absolutely worth nine million dollars a year to. Clemson university. You can simultaneously believe that and the players should also be paid whatever form or fashion that might be. I think make this case, I don't know fifteen years ago, or so I did a story about Mack Brown impact. He made on the economy down in round Austin, Texas. It's not just to the university. It's the whole community there even Frank beamer when he got a role in Blacksburg. I mean, new hotels got built around there because of that. And so I'm not saying now are there overpaid coaches? That are you know, the money is staggering that so many guys are making five million dollars. Plus, yes. But if you have a great coach, and I would put what Davos when he certainly done there. I would say as done if you're a great coach those guys end up being a bargain for what they've done. Yeah. I think the folly of I don't know how you avoid this the folly of college football coaching contracts is that these guys save in cal-. They absolutely deserve it. But then got all these other coaches. Butch Jones was making five million dollars a year range, Tennessee, you know, because that's the market sets. It a certain way the not only are the really accomplished guys getting paid that. But then just a higher SEC head coach. There's like a barrier entry point. So before the guys actually proven that. He's any good. You're already paying him pretty inflated amount of money. You know in that case. It's a, you know, it's we would have oh, it's a reward. He's being rewarded he's being compensated for what he the chief there. But when you hire a new coach and throw all this money at them. You're basically making a big bet and investment and sometimes that pays off and sometimes that's tens of millions of dollars down the drain. But you know, the last thing I would say is in relation to the the payers players being paid argument. You know, if that was allowed tomorrow, the extra money wouldn't go they wouldn't take the money away from data and give it to the players. They would just I mean, this is want to say this. But they would just cut the water polo team. You know, like. Most of that s surplus that when people say all the schools making a hundred fifty million dollars athletics. What are they doing with all of it while they're paying for the scholarships of all the sports that don't bring money? So if given a choice between if he said all suddenly have to choose between paying the football players or keeping the scholarships for all these not revenue sports. They're gonna pay the football players. So again, the they're not connected as much as I think people think Davos when making nine million is not a direct result of the fact that the players aren't paid anything that makes sense are unfortunately have run a time to do the mail bag this week, but send your questions to the Ottawa pottage dot com. We'll get them next week also about two and many of our media colleagues are about to descend on the desert and Phoenix. So I think the next time we mean for this podcast. We're gonna have a lot of stories to tell about all the coaches and eighties. And and other college football types that we talk with this coming week. We'll see next time. 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The Most Absurd Picks and Biggest Steals of the 2019 NFL Draft!

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The Most Absurd Picks and Biggest Steals of the 2019 NFL Draft!

"We've had a few days a process NFL draft on what exactly happened? But seriously, Mike, everybody has an opinion on it. Everybody giants or crazy. And I think this is the key for us you, and I are not came thrones fans. But the battle of winter fell tonight six. Lisa six characters. No, the major characters did. But aria stark is this incredible care to save everybody. So I can draw at ten gently to that audience all the game of thrones fan who you and I are not because game of thrones greener. George are mar nobody has more pissed at the giants for picking Daniel Jones. Here's what he had to say. Daniel Jones Duke at number six. Yes. The young quarterback to groom ally successor. But Dwayne Haskins right there why not him. I don't follow college ball. But every measurable Haskins is way better than Jones. He threw fifty two touchdowns in three years at Duke Haskins through fifty and one year to state funeral exceptions against much tougher opposition was there anybody there with you in Vegas who actually said, hey, Dave, Letterman, good pick. I think George must have watched the Baylor Duke game from two thousand seventeen when he had like a nineteen quarterback rating or something like that. You know, the fascinating thing about Dave Gettleman is I don't know how the giants keep allowing him to talk to the media without a lawyer sitting next to him like seriously had some point that no objection of the question. He can't counsel. I. Can't answer that you know, at some point, you know, he actually looks like what's that guy in the godfather before Frank Pantasma got up there Cheech? He's like cheese. He's just talking at some point stop, right? Stop talking. And I think the thing for giant fans that no one really talks about. And no one's asking them about this question. This could completely be an objection by the lawyer. We'd have to have suspended. We have the vice you know, is this quarterback Daniel Jones better than to we from Alabama. No way is he better than from Hebert from Oregon. No, okay. So that's really the comparison. Right. Because when you turn that card in it six you're saying this guy has Pro Bowl tential. He's one of the six best players in the draft. And we're going to never worry about a quarterback for the next ten years insane. Okay. So now if you go and win four games, which we know that I don't think the giants can I think the giants are about a four. Team. Right. That would put them with the forty Niners last year the four nine one four games. I think are those one three right? Yeah. And so four five if you think you're going to win four five or six you're going to be in the top ten picks right now. It's not going to get you to these quarterbacks. Right. Right. But you're saying that say you get the first or second pick in the draft. Okay. Does get them and say, oh, I got a bonanza. Now, I've got Daniel Jones. I don't need to. I don't need. Herbert right. I don't need to either one of these guys. I'm gonna trade him for bonanza picks, but you still end up with the bad quarterback. Right. That's the crazy part is that there's multiple facets one. I don't think Jones is that great. We agree on that. Right. To clearly to be taken at six. He would've been available at seventeen or in the second round. At one point. Drew lock was the second best quarterback available. He didn't go to forty second. Denver which I think is a good value pick for Elway at that. At that slot fine. Bigger guy from zuri everybody knew the Redskins light Haskins. So they weren't going to take Jones with very lease. Don't take them at six. Take a pass rusher. Take Josh Allen. They had fifteen defensive guys take in the first round the most in the NFL since the draft era. And so it was so obvious might take a pass rusher. Yeah. I again, he's not looking to me. There's somebody said this to me during the draft. And it's so true. Most teams look like they were collecting baseball cards as opposed to building a draft. Right. And I think that's what the giants were doing. I have a need a quarterback. I'm going to check it off. Now Sam darnold. I didn't like him too. Because I like Barkley, so I'm going to take I'm not taking next year. I like Daniel Jones as much as I like, Josh Allen. Like nothing makes sense. There's no plan here. There's nothing worse. If you come out and say, look, I'm taking Josh Allen. Yep. And I'm on the move up from seventeen if I get my quarterback big deal. If I don't get them a pick another player I got next year. I'm maybe I'll go trade for Josh Rosen. Maybe I'll do something else. Something else is going to happen. But there's no way I'm going to ruin this opportunity with the Odell Beckham trae, and we're I'm picking based on the losing season to cash it in for a backup quarterback. It makes no sense. And what it tells you is? There's a thing called false duality. Anytime you make a decision. So we make decision we think there's a or b to the decision. I either like a are like b but guys like Bella, check guy said aren't collecting baseball cards. Always think of CD for the decision. Okay. If I take this quarterback Jones that I don't really need these two quarterbacks next year. And in your mind, you're thinking if I suck it off next year, then I'm going to trade him for a banana. Well, that's you're still down a quarterback. Right. You still need a quarterback here while the crazier codes got him and said was in three years people will find if I'm not gonna three years, you think you got three more. Here's your clearly insane. That you think you got three more years on the job because they think Mike Jones is not certainly walking this year. They think Eli thirty eight is gonna give them at least a year or two more production kidding me. So why not if that's what you really think? Then why not just wait and see a V life flutters out again. And then have the first or second pick in the draft tank it right and get one of these guys or put yourself into the Trevor. Orange Sturbridge two years from that. No question this year to and her are huge travelers to your yourself. Those guys are can't miss. They that's the conversation that should be happening after the draft that as soon as that car got turned into quarterback, that's the conversation. Because look if I got him in the second round to be they were all second round quarterbacks potential starters. They were not starters. And I think Elway deserves props for saying, you know, I like luck. But he ain't a starter. He has potential to start. But he ain't a start at drew lock for a Tuesday. Good values potential star. Right. Yeah. You know, even Haskins. I mean, are you kidding me Haskins is a potential starter? I give the Redskins credit for this. At least they didn't overpay for them. I mean, most Redskin fans because of the Haskins picker at the point where they say, well, at least we didn't over pick for them like, you know, being on the Titanic sinking. At least I got on a lifeboat. Right. You know, the guy still playing piano. Keep like the Boko. Exactly. So I mean, you can manage all this all you want. But to me, I think what it shows is when get them talk. And it shows he doesn't think about this in a long term interest. He's got three first round picks in the first round. He obviously thinks teams way better than it. Really is. Yeah, I think that's a good point. He actually thinks that they're closer. Attention was they clearly are not other major talking point was Josh Rosen. Of course Kyla Murray. Let's do raiders I because you know, I Mike my acted. He watched one college football game. He watched the national championship. And that's why four eight picks either from Alabama or they're. Yeah. He went to the game. He went the game. He falls in love with the magazine. Oh, these guys are great. I got my one game. I checked it off while these guys are awesome Cleland Ferral. I saw play for Clemson Bowie. Alabama most picks again at ten house did at nine so again, big schools, get recognition. I get that clean. Furlough was like a late first round guy. There's that's absurd. It number forty get again. I get Mike you fall in love with a guy. Hey, I see a six foot. Blond all of a sudden, I got a love is in the air. That's great. You know, a parcel says as big loops anytime, you know, with the big boobs that's Parcells l love with a big froze any of the best defensive plan that Clemson Christian Wilkin did when he turned when he saw that he went for. I mean, what did he looked that? His agents said you're fired. Clearly, the best guy that defends waves so Pitney saga delegation. Huge fist-bump. Here's what I don't understand. Look. I'm a true believer in. It doesn't matter where we pick them. It matters. How we play. But there is truly value to the draft. There is states craft and there is value to this thing. Right. And if you like Farrell, which we all liked Farrell, but Al Davis rolled over in his grave three times. Okay. Three times. Not just once he rolled over when this car got turn any wrote over three times because unlike a quarterback who doesn't run a forty Lamar Jackson. He didn't run a forty can you imagine Davis taken a kid in the draft at defensive line who you have to trace Patrick Mahomes down track them down. And he doesn't wanna forty his pro day. He still had something wrong with he's telling you I can't run because he's dodging the forty. He saying I can't meanwhile, we're turning the card in at four. It reminds me of when the seventy Sixers the idiots that they are at the time. Right. And I'm living at Shawn Bradley, refused to work out David Faulk, engineered that Shaun browley the big kid from BYU. He ain't working. Out for anybody. Okay. Of course, naturally, we go hook line, and sinker. Don't take penny. Hardaway don't take Chris Webber here. We are. We're going to take because he's seven foot nine right? But it won't work out. There's a reason he's not working out. He got something to hide you got something. It's the same thing here. Like, okay, I get you like the kit. I get it. I get you want this character. Meanwhile, they're talking about both sides. We won't character. A welcome Antonio Brown. Welcome as burger, but we want character. Okay. All right now, if you want you got twenty four trade up from twenty four to go get him pick a legitimate player at four that's valuable at four pick Devon white for pick Devon white at four and say, you know, what I'm getting a blue chip player here for I don't care. What anybody I'm getting? I'm getting value for my pick. I can't trae down Peter King wrote in his column, they couldn't trade out. I grant you. They couldn't trade out. Okay. I get that. It was hard to trade up there probably gonna pay the price, but you could have gone from twenty four up. There's no doubt. Yeah. You could have gone up, and you could have gotten your guy could have got Devon white. Instead, they go down. And they think oh, we got Josh decor at twenty right? Yeah. The right back Josh twenty four. Yeah. Okay. Now, here's the other which is remarkable. Right. The eagles jump them, and Peter writes that the thought in the draft room that they were gonna pick the running back. They were never picking the running back jumping him. They were picking the tackle. So now, you know when you're on the clock at the draft you have full control of the draft. That's the only time you have control you have everything. Right. The eagles just jumped you. They pick Diller. Now, you have your pick. You can do whatever the hell you want. You know, no teams coming to pick a running back the next running back. If you picked Jacobs. It's a little bit like playing pool I'm on a sink the six ball. And then move the white ball back to hit the seven ball. Right set it up, right? But no naturally because we know gruden's run of the draft. They can't wait to run up and turn the car in for Josh Jacobs. They can't wait gotta have them. Right. Instead of maneuvering the draft trae down a little bit. Okay. We can get down pick a corner. Pick the best corner you want there. And then we got the top of the second. We'll trade that pickup. Like, there's value to the pick. Again. It's just turning. You're basically turning in baseball cards. And then what they're doing is. They're saying the needs of our team is right there. So we're checking off these needs. But what people and I urge everybody understand. This clearly the draft is never about this year's team. It's always about the follow your team. And you don't know what the team needs. Are. You have no idea what they are. And if you take a player, that's really good. And you happen to be stocked at that player. It goes back to an Davis, which is basically this build strength on strength. Right. Okay. And so to me, it's clearly the case of somebody the coach wanting to run the draft the coach wanting the players and the GM really not understanding value based on the picks because he just turned the car to four for Farrell to me in everybody in the league's laughing at that giants raiders death of the most head scratching moves. I thought one of the smartest picks today was the dolphins by getting Josh Rosen. You say all right, listen, we need a quarterback because the cardinals made through a column or if that works out great clippings Kingsbury comes into listen. I want the Cadillac I'm gonna make him a star awesome. You're the quarterback guru. We all know. Because you talk about you look at Ryan Gosling. I got it. Right. But for the dolphins. Hey, you got a guy who probably is a first round pick. We've certainly was a year ago, and everybody's board. If this guy now pans out that's great value for what you gave up for. No. I mean, if let me say this if Josh Rosen was unscathed in this draft, he's better than Daniel Jones denying that he'd be the second best quarterback in this draft. There's no denying that. So if again that proves why would you not take the best player at six and then deal with the quarterback issue, especially when you look at next year like to me, I'll tell you the team I thought to really good job in the draft. It didn't even pick the first round the Annapolis colts because the colts were just disciplined than what they were doing. I mean, the patriots sit there thirty two and get the best receiver in the draft. You know, they get the best receiver in the draft that guy that can impact their team. I mean, there's so many teams that just keep falling over themselves. They can't help them and it benefits the teams that are patient and the draft is to it's about evaluating talent. But it's also about how you build your football team in these are just trading cards in. I think that. Teams listen to the GM Shefa last week because when you were deploring the fact that how earth decay McAfee the first receiver taken it isn't take until Seattle in the third round. And when they call them, the tell me what took so long. Yeah. Because you had said, listen, this guy is quite a moment. Yeah. With a shirt off he's incredibly physical specimen, but it can run three routes, and I was interesting to see after you had said that to me last week anybody who jumps on the making a mistake, especially it's early. Nobody really did third round was later than you would have thought. Right. Especially after the combine, no doubt. I mean look in Seattle. Look, I think the one thing about him with Russell Wilson because he's going to run around IPE routes deep routes throw the ball down the field. See if you could make a play and the one thing he is he's a little bit. He's the Steve Kerr of football. He you're going to have to defend them. Now one thing when you line him up. He spaces the field. You gotta go defended. You gotta go line up there. They're out there and defend them. So you know, I I mean the one thing about receivers everybody talks about Baltimore him Hollywood Hollywood Browns, really good player. But when you have Lamar Jackson. Okay. Your team is really built on defense. And your team is built on plan from in front. I don't think people truly understand this. The number one stat in football is I have pointed franchise when you have the lead at halftime, you have a better chance at when the teams that go to the Super Bowl always are in the top five. I have pointed for when you look at it last year Kansas City, the Rams the year before that it was New England and Philadelphia the year before that it was New England and Atlanta when you get the lead and play from it front. That's what Lamar Jackson gave Baltimore last year. He gave them they played from in front. And now Baltimore takes a receiver. Because they're under the pretense that they need to increase the the town around Lamar Jackson and they take another fast vertical receiver. Well, they needed guys that could run with the ball after the catch like to me, Harry was the better player. There's no doubt. I mean, Harry was 'cause all the and I heard him on TV say, well, you know, he runs all it's almost like, you know, it's fascinating about the draft is how you can tell teams are helping guys that are on TV. With their thoughts because it's almost like in black ops. You know, JFK when when Mr. Xs down in Australia's reading the papers, and the already knows that Oswald has been arrested, you know, and he said it was strictly black ops. This is how we would have handled it, right? That's what I think of every time. I'm listening to the draft. When one of the guys onto this is perfect for the ravens because he can run all the routes that Lamar what's right now. We can't we can't. I mean. So he throws it runs. A bubble screen waste one hundred eighty five pounds going to tackle was little. Right. Was all black ops. It was all like we're going to feed the story as wall did it. So we'll feed the story out there. And that's what they do. And to cost us the greatest. I mean, he can't nobody's better at propaganda than the GM of the ravens. So you know, he can do it better than anybody. I find it fascinating. Especially when you look at some of these things when you hear these draft grades or you're the like at some point stop people. These are all grades based on what that person thinks not based on what the league things. Yeah. And that's where it comes open interpretation. I also the bills that are good job. Alright. Number nine great job again patience. Right. You get your defensive tackle didn't try out for me is right there. They made some other good value picks. The eagles you mentioned earlier Andre Dillard offense. Tackle you. Also got mal Sanders as a running back. Get JJ are single white set receiver from Stanford. Smart picks eagles that a great job. I think the eagles might have gotten the best running back. I'm not sure mile centers is not better than Jacobs. Frankly, I think he is I'm with you on that. Okay. I think he is. I think they got the better running back and for way, better value. Like, wait think about that twenty four to fifty two. You got base and say just hypothetically say Jacobs's, a sixty four and say, they gave Sanders sixty three do you realize the difference you real now? This is the horizontal this is the vertical board and the horizontal board. Right. You've when you didn't trae Dow after the eagles jumped you to pick Dylan, and you didn't move. You really don't understand the horizontal board. You're locked in on your need. And that's how you make mistakes. And I mean, look people can talk about it all they want. I think that comes down to experience. Like once the eagles jumped you, and they're the only real team competing for you for a running back. You got that? You got the world by the tail now you sitting there saying, I got it. All man, I'm move down and get the best corner. I get whatever I want. Instead, you gotta take this and start announcing that how everybody loves it. Don't you? Find fascinating how people defend their draft based on other people cattleman coming out and say, I know I know for fact, two teams, we can't find those students. They try to say well other teams were desires of this guy who's actually got. Well, who cares? How does that? Because something was attractive. It doesn't mean. That's. Right necessarily. Well, how do you know, they're telling you the truth, right? As you said was last week. This is the season of lying. Everyone was guys was lying left. And right. It's so bad. I it's so bad. And I think you know, when you look at it like Baltimore, I like to pick marquees Brown there. I mean, I thought you know, why receiver I would've Oklahoma twenty fifth. I mean, I didn't understand that. You know, the other thing surprised me, I gotta give it Lanta credit. Typically, Atlanta, ignores their offense of line, and they trade back into the cause. I think what what Atlanta did there by trading up to get Chris Lindstrom while they got lynched him there. And then McRae the tackle what we saw at the top of the second was the bunch of tackle start to go. Okay. So that tells you they knew the taco market was going to go. Unlike the raiders who go ahead and take a running back, and then the all the Kunar start to go at the top of the second. And they gotta take the last corner or whatever corner. Now, I'm sure they're gonna come out and say, look, we've got the corner we wanted. Yeah. Right. Okay. Fine. You didn't take the you could take a buyer Murphy. They're right there, and you would have had them, and you could still had the running back again, it's all value. So I think you've got an anticipated part of what? Going on. 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I got to calibrate we're to wait till the full ten minutes make their pick the ratings were gigantic you ever as a lifelong football guy. Go, you know, what there's gonna be more people watching a bunch of names being read than NHL playoff games. A major league baseball games NBA playoff games. Don't read this is. And everybody says football's died show. I mean seriously. I mean, I it's Ramar. I mean, I'm a draft. So I get it. I love it when I used to when I took the train when I was a fat kid at Hofstra. And I would take the train in on the Long Island railroad park here and go to the Sheraton and wait in line. There was only five hundred people you that was all you could do to hear the names, right? Right now, you could sit there, and you know, I mean, it's remarkable that and then you have to wait, you know, like, I was getting texts from people to let me know what the Pixar because the picture turned in right? The picture turned in like the networks are three picks sometimes behind especially as you get later in the draft. Yeah. Because they got gotta run commercials. They gotta do all this all we come back here. And we'll give it as a fan. You want wanna instantaneous, you know, is really rules, by the way that you have them. Can you tweet it out? It's very John. The other thing I think would team should do is is I think the good teams the smart teams like if you're the raiders and your Mike Mayock, and this is the first time you've ever run a draft. Okay. And it's way different than sitting next to rich Eisen. It's way different. Use should always take snapshots of the board. So good teams take snapshots of their draft boards. So let's say at fourteen we take a snapshot at nineteen. We take a snapshot at twenty four when we're on the clock because what you wanna do is this week. You wanna go back in the room? And you wanna look at this. And you want to say, you know, what I think I blew an opportunity here. You know, Jacobs went we pick Jacobs at twenty four look at the board. Here we could have done this. We could've done that. Like if you go back and realize and do it for the second. Do it for the third row because what happens is you just start becoming very false duality AB AB AB as opposed to really take a step back and look at it. So this week the smart teams like New England they're gonna they've taken staff. Shots of the board. So they know when they were sitting there at the bottom of the second they trade it out and they lost potentially some good players. And they got the guy in the third. They picked Damon Harrison third where it was. But they lost some good players. They'll go back and revisit was that the right trade to make the we we have rather had a receiver say Jalen Hurd who got picked by San Francisco at the top or the defensive lineman from Boston, whatever it is. You have to look at that. And then analyze it. Because if you don't you're sitting there, then you just a fan, then you're just a fan because like like we talked about six days ago was the draft while the fans have forgotten about it. But it's an executive you can't. That's your lifeline. You gotta sit there. And look at it and say, okay, here's where we are. That's interesting because imparted say, what is the point of that? Because you feel it'd be painstaking looking at mistakes not done that could've that you shouldn't live with regrets. But your point if you play football game, we don't just play the game. And that was the best decision on third down. You watch the tape. You watch the tape, and you say what could we have done here? How could this have been buoyed? What do we do next time similar with the draft? A guys we were too eager about this should have been more desires this because. Of this decision when we break we're going to be focused on this. I think you're right. You can only learn from your pass by by examining. And I think the smart teams Atlanta, obviously knows that that from twenty let's say from twenty five to forty right? We know historically that's corner market. That's our there's always a coin. That's where the corners go. There's something wrong with them. We also know that the Lyman tend to slip off at that point, especially when Dillard went Atlanta's saw Diller, go Atlanta knew that if they wanted to get their guy, they couldn't wait they knew it was going to start to happen. Whether one team it didn't really mad. They knew the tackle market, Cody Ford market. We know Cincinnati was trying to trade up to get Cody for we know that. So when you're sitting there watching it instead of Pat yourself on the back saying, oh, God, we got this board. Graded right? No. You gotta figure out what you could have done better. And if you don't look we're in the information business, if you're not analyzing the data than how are you going to get better? And then next year when you sit with your scouts. You can say look fellas you guys can tell me all you want about player y. I'll give Abella check which said just fucking put him on the pro board. Okay. Like you guys want? You know, like like, I know my man Mel will probably give Titus our they gave him. Okay. Gave them a bag. Great put Howard on the pro board. He's going to start in the NFL at right or left tackle. So Mel might had them in the third round. But that would be like me trying to pick Julio Jones in the third round. Right. Since not hap, it ain't happening. I'm he's not gonna be there. They're never going to be there. So and I'm not picking Mel here. But like that's the part of the game. That's the part of the puzzle. He doesn't know he doesn't realize that. If you don't pick this guy twenty to forty you never get them. Well, that's the other part of it too. What do you think just the thought of Mel kiper draft grades because there's an insatiable appetite to say who to be draft. What is Mel kiper thing met? What Mel does is really easy is. So Mel just looks at what is needs are and has value board. And he just check it off. And if you follow his value board and based on what his needs are. You're gonna get a high grade he's gonna love your draft. If you don't and you'd go completely divergent and thought and go against everything he does you're going to get a low grade. And frankly, if you get. Oh, great. You're probably better off because you're not thinking like Mel thinking because it Mel doesn't understand either. As part of taking snapshots of the board is your take a snapshot of the trade board too. So let's say, you're you're Oakland. And we're wondering why Oakland doesn't turn the card in twenty-five? Well, they might have three trades up there on the board. Okay. And they turned all three trades to pick Jacobs. But now when you take that snapshot after and you can analyze what we have been better off taking we would have been better off taking player a or b and instead of Jacobs or you can now fill in the blanks 'cause you got the results of the draft. Right. So all those trades become realistic and so- Mel doesn't see those traits. So he doesn't really know what you passed up. He doesn't have any idea of it. So he's dealing blindly. And it's all based on. Did you check off the needs of your team when we know this? We know that first round picks probably probably will have some impact. Maybe not a lot. We everything else after that. They'll have little impact on the team. Very little. I mean, some might might might surprise you be Jackson's college is starting to the bowl they'll be some of that. But for the most part, let's say there's fifty players that impact their team next year. Everything else is for the next team. It's all for the next year team. And if you get so caught up in your needs this year, you'll never figure it out which makes me think I'm focusing a lot as a fan on the first round. Because a lot of these guys I know watching college football etcetera day to day three start to. Okay. I know I know that guy. This guy is is there not as much importance pay to those days in there should be or to your point. There's a reason why guys I router. And there's a way is why guys third weather like how much day to day through the draft are going to be impactful unseen building winter. Well like you chase vintage the the kid the patriots. He's gonna come in. He's going to say Bill Walsh's say this all the time. We drafted Charles Haley in the fourth round, right? And the first thing he told every coach on the staff toll, Bill McPherson. He told George for the score data. Don't teach him the playbook. Charles Haley's coming in here to be designated pass rusher. All I want him to do every. Day is spend time rushing the passer. Like, I don't give a shit if he knows any of our I intend defenses. He ain't plane I into he's only going to be on the field. So once you draft you have to develop a plan for these guys because if you give them the Manhattan phone directory and say learn this, he ain't learned you. Well, put them off for next year. Right. So you got to define the role for the player as soon as you draft the player. That's how you have good. So what New England will do was vintage though, he'll come in. And here's his role. He's going to be he's going to play this this. They're gonna teach them X Y Z Basti fence. Here's your second Cormac third long. Here's what we do. That's that's it. That's all. And then once he gets that. Maybe we'll teach them a little bit more. We'll start to grow. We'll start to allow him to learn more. They take Damian Harris. Okay. Damian Harris is going to have to learn, you know, the first down run all the all the first down concepts. All that. However, it is whatever your plan is for the player. That's how you have a good draft. And then once you put the player that role. If he can't do it. You're gonna cut them, right? You're gonna cut him because he can't handle that role. We can't let them do that. So unless you draft them really high. And you're just figuring out. I think that's the biggest problem. I think part of the draft. We never talk about is player development. We gotta develop the player that you picked. And that allows that player to have an impact on your team moving forward to your point of a player development and just laid on the draft Mr. irrelevant who's the last pick NFL draft the cardinals or two fifty four UCLA Ted and Caleb Wilson. Now. Each of the last six, Mr. relevance of appeared at least one NFL games guys do play, but your point someone's you don't get drafted. It's better buffalo quarterback. Terry Jackson, sign with the bills Georgia running back Elijah Holyfield's out of the Panthers. Those guys are getting a chance to prove people like get pissed off. They don't get picked think it's a little Jordan Humphry. Yeah. The kid who didn't run very well from Texas, but he's a huge receiver. He goes to the saints. Right, right. It's the perfect team to go for Sean will make him a quasi f- inside big. He smarts Colston for Sean Payton, right? So say he makes their team, and he ends up becoming Marcus Costa will the third year the third year as a free agent. He's got to get a three million dollar tender which. Four million by the time he becomes. Whereas if he's got drafted in the fourth row, his he would be on a base salary. He would be on the minimum salary for that fourth year. So now, he's got to get tendered. So all these teams are getting smarter. Like if you can collect more seventh round picks than free agents. You don't have to tender that money, and it helps saves your cap because every million you can save here or there you pick up going to skip some Blair allow so being undrafted free agent. Someways is better for you. Sometimes it is especially like on his case where he goes to the saints where I can exactly see as soon as I read his sign with the saints. Okay. He's colston. He's going to cause. I don't care what the kid ran that. You've seen them play the kicks big. He's physical hard to tackle. He's going to play in the slot. He can block though, get him. If he has any quickness at all they'll figure out a way to utilize. It's all about the vision that you have for the player and most good coaches scout inside out. That's why some teams where these teams that are run by the general manager that have no idea how you divide. Them right. That never that doesn't work anymore. Like that doesn't work couple thoughts. First time in sixty years Nebraska, failed of prospect drafted I twenty five years Virginia Tech failed of prospect drafted Nebraska to me. I mean, listen, they've been bad the big ten while would've thought isn't there? Just one big hulking three hundred pound kid from Lincoln Nebraska farmer raised him. He'll get drafted somewhere. Like, that's how bad Nebraska there have one like old Lyme you'd pick knowing that always be a no brainer. You know, what happened in a Brask is all those all the chamber of commerce. Okay. So in the whole state like say, you're in, you know, some of the small little towns in Nebraska, the chamber of commerce would have the best player. They would pay a scholarship for the kid to go to Lincoln. So it didn't cost them a scholarship. That's remember that walk on program. They used to have it Nebraska that great walk on program. Well, that was because all these little towns in the Brassica the cities were like had the chamber. We want our kid to go there. Well, they've lost that whole thing. And now, they all think they've lost player development. Like it's too much. They're not developing any players. Not getting any red. So that's where the problems lie, and I think frost will fix that. Scott frost, Nebraska guy is a big hire a hill comeback. You obviously had success but at UCF, but I'm like, it's a big job. Right. It's hard. And if you don't have like, that's the part where good college coaches understand. It's about player development. It isn't about getting five stars. It's about developing the players like what is the plan for the player? Once we recruit them, you know, it's like some of these kids like they don't really need the bench press anymore. Like they can bench press the moon like some kidney flexibility, like that's when you bring all these rookies, and you're not bringing them in to see what you're seeing where we have to work with them and develop them how we're going to plant them. It's the actual player development that really matters. That's the secret sauce at the good teams in the NFL one more on the draft for it gets tyreek hill who is the steel of this year's draft people love this years from now. Hey Lombardi said this was a great value pick at this spot. He loves this kid wherever it is people love this years now. And if you win at this, Mike, you can hang your hat on this ten years meals GM shuffle Lombardi called of this was a great pick. I I mean, I love the. Titus Howard pick. I know that that was the first round pick. But I love the other guy that I really love I love trusted hill from central Florida. Now, here's a kid that played for Scott frost when he was there at two thousand seventeen you put his tape on your saying. Wow. That guy's really good player. You say holy shit. That guy's really good. He wanted to transfer to Nebraska to follow through. But like most defensive lineman didn't have it fully planned out with a lot of attention to detail. You know, so once he realized it was going to cost them a year and have to sit out a year, and who's going to all that he comes back while he comes back, and he kind of pisses off most of the coaches, okay? Then his weight goes way up right? As weight goes up to like three thirty. He can't play at that way. So they get them back down. He starts one game for them. Not because he's not talented because they're trying to make a statement about their program. Right. And so, you know, Josh hypol- the head coach, central Florida. This kid's really talented. You get this kid with Marinelli in their defensive front. I mean, you get him go in there. And you get him move in there. I think that could be really a hell of a pick. I think. The the Saunders defensive tackle. I think he's from western Illinois, one of those directional noise kid that the that the chiefs draft that I think he's really talented player too. Sometimes you can find down the road, you could find some of these guys that are really talented that for some reason defensive lineman. They're a little askew. There's always something wrong with them. And then I think the mile Sanders. Pigs really great pick. I thought that was a great pick, especially where they got them at the value. They're running backs are so porous seasoning other twenty-ninth Gye got her. That's they need to fill right away. He's an instant. And I mean, I think you know, they get Dillard's. So they get legitimate left tackle, they get the receiver from Stanford who can flat out fly say, he's their Torrey Smith guy now they got so they've kind of got some pieces, and then they'll fill in the roles with what they need to do the other teams that I think that do a good job is the teams that figure out. Look, we didn't get this in the draft. We still need to go out and sign this. Yeah, we still need to go out and sign this. I mean, we saw today the colts side Spencer ware. Okay. They didn't draft running back. They didn't waste a pick on a running back that can't make there. Team. So they signed Spencer where at smart housing the Bengals money got a value. Pick wine feeling quarterback NC state get in later fourth-round hundred four fourth pick Zack Taylor coach might be able to make it. Right. So he's a really smart kid test score. You know, I mean, look, I think this is gonna come down to you know, Jarret stidham the kid from Auburn who really again good pick for the patriot. Look, here's this kid. Okay. He's a five star four star kid at Ballard with arts are browse. Yep. Okay. And they have the absolute fiasco that happens there. And then he decides to leave Ballard and goes to Auburn now really if the kid was smart he would've stayed at Ballard with that rule cause if he plays it with Matt Rua barrel. He's probably gonna throw he might have been a first or second round pick. He's easily better than Daniel Jones. If he plays in an offense that would have highlighted what he could do that offense. And Auburn, I'm not sure what the hell is they run power. They run a balanced. I mean, I see my man gave up his really disappointed me to Gus malzahn gave up a sweater vest disappointed. You know, like, I'm. Not watching Gus if you don't have the sweater vest iron bowl, not the same ever since he tried to change those look. Yeah. I mean, seriously, you're a sweater vest guy. Get the sweater vest on. But anyway, that offense seriously is might be one of the worst offense football. And so you can't valuate a quarterback in it. Or you can't they can't train a quarterback there. That's the other. You can't train them. Yeah. Last thought here on the draft that day just about to go to broadcast all excitement here about the young players. Tyreek hill stuff comes out. I'm sure you'll now know what it is the leaked video comes out when she was threatening abuse of his partner and talking about abusing his child. The immediate reaction seemed to be just as cacophony of noise here. Mike it was like hanging a second. Everyone gets a second chance. But this guy hasn't repented. He's doing it. Again, the chiefs right now said, you know, obviously suspended him from team activities. But what does the league do? What do you think is? You know, I've been on Twitter. You know, remember zero dark thirty were Jessica Chastain. Character comes in and keeps writing the dates on the board that they haven't done anything about. That's me right now. A tyreek hill at some point cheeses, Christ NFL, Park Avenue, wick, the hell up you let this kid in the Lee. League. What he did it Oklahoma state nobody and I'm telling you know, one was drafting this kid coming out. Maybe the raiders may be Reggie McKenzie. Could've got Mark Davis. Okay. But other than that no other team did. And when the chiefs picked them they came out and said, we've done our homework on the kid, and I said to somebody like what Homer could you do like seriously. What could you have done that proved he punched his pregnant girlfriend, which is the same woman, and he went to Akron. He couldn't get into Akron. They wouldn't let them in. Then he went to west Alabama. He got like no one denies. There's the player tremendous player like my wife could've scouted the player like everybody's giving. John Dorsey found tyreek hill in the fifth row. What to John's got a magical? I yeah. Yeah. Okay. Milly could've found tyreek hill and a fifth round. Okay. The reason he's there is their circumstances that you can't get your hands around. You can't feel comfortable ever taken that guy. And then this video comes out and Park Avenue over they're still debating, meanwhile, Tom Brady, allegedly spots footballs, and we'd just drag his name through the mud. Seriously. Like, where's the guys takes a substance or guy gets caught smoking dope. Josh Gordon's out of football. There's a little child that is no longer with their parents. That's a fact that's a fact I mean, and so you're not doing anything about that. There's a reason they took that kid from their parents. And I mean, I don't see how you can just keep going on another day. Like another day. We what are we going to find out and the chiefs, I truly think the chiefs want nothing to do a I think they want nothing to do with them making a decision. I think they wanna put it on the league. Here's get confused. Andy Reid, a part of me says he gives these guys a second chance because what his own kids went through drug, problems, etc. Been imprisoned. So he says, you know, what I've had issued the my own kids raising them, I'm inclined to give other people second chance. But then I say is it that or is it just win it all costs, and I'm going to get the best player available and to your point worry about the repercussions. If the league wants to do something, I don't know which one it is. I used to read was just had a big heart. But then I'm like hand it to your. When just gave one hundred million dollars to Frank Clark. Frank clark. Did it at Michigan? Right. Okay. And you just rewarded. Frank clark. Seattle said look we love. Frank clark. We love Frank Clark. They had a guy in Seattle that used to have to monitor Frank Clark. I mean, he was with them all the time and Frank Clark is a really good football player. We're talking personally there, but there's could be a time bomb, and then that time bomb could really go off if I give you hundred million dollars. You know? I mean, you start you start paying guys you don't know where they're going. The chiefs were getting ready to pay. Tyreek kill. That's fact, they're they're going to give them. Well, if you paid Sammy Watkins sixty million we give tyreek hill think about it. They're gonna give tyreek killed upwards near twenty. He was going to get probably one of the highest paid contracts. Not to a quarterback. Okay. He was going to be because this guy as Davis used to say just put him on my put him on my team. Like, he shifts the balance of power. He changes the field. Right. But where's the accountability? Ultimately, go I get the fact he's a superstar player, but let's be a cattle. You got Kareem hunt. Okay. Dorsey dress me Dorsey has made a career taking guys that are on the edge of character. And look he's gotten away with it. I'm not being jealous or bitter. But to a degree I think at some point you gotta say, wait a minute, John like this like, greedy Williams like I talked. There's some teams just not taking greedy Williams, a won't tackle anybody. When you take a corner that can't tackle you never can balance your defense. You never balance your defense because there's one Saudi defense that's always bad but John's had success. And then with John does is almost in class out Davis fashion. He says, well, it's the coaches it's up to the coach fix it. Now, you fix it. It's on you. You know that worked for Allan the sixties when the problems were a little less than what they are today and the climate was way different back. Then if you you went home driving, and you weren't in the sixties, and you were drunk cops pull over newer player. They would probably drive you home. Right. Yeah. Today that rightfully so that eight the same climate and so. Things change. And I just think to me this Tari kills it's bad for the league. I heard all the rhetoric about well, you know, they don't want upset the draft. No bullshit. Do the right thing when it's right. You know, when I tweeted this out to remember when Tony went to. Ralphie? And he said, you know, this thing of ours requires us do it as a law and order things doing a timely fashion. Yeah. Remember, it's a cradle. Right. It's a timely and he stressed timely. And then the next thing we know we see veto kill little Jackie junior. High is important in all matters when it's really sensitive timely now, I'm not saying you should rush the judgment. I think due process plays but timely is important, and there's no timely effect here. Speakers sopranos, I I was reading some articles about the Kentucky Derby this week. I'm not a huge horse guy. I don't know if you are always think a pile mind. Ralphie tony. It's a frequent horse. Boo cares. I still can't believe sprayed in his eye. He killed pithily over a horse like still you one of the rap. He was a great earner. Like Eddie was a great car. He was hit some of the greatest jokes of all time. Really? They wrote they wrote Frank. They wrote ralphie really. Well. Oh my God. He was a psych somebody said to be it was goodfellas. He'd be the Joe Pasha Kerr. He's the noisy people love him. He know what I watched on the plane. I was flying all over the I watched the part again. Oh, yeah. I mean Nicholson has some incredible lines that movie the stuff that he says about Freud and he's easing. Celtic. Matt damon? Just still unhinged. Murray's taking the ring off. The guy's head. Gusting. It's unbelievable. Yeah. That whole cast is unreal. To Capri Damon. The fact that David is impotent the movie disliked it put it in there. I get it up. Okay. Interesting. We're living in a world where Viagra we had this guy run Joe's, great raider. So this guy run Jones, right? Yeah. And run run was a roller derby guy, he used to do roller derby. And so John Madden took him in. And basically lets them live in the facility, and he becomes a ballboy, and they the raiders pay him and he lives in the facility, then we moved Oakland. He lives in the facility, he became like, a cult figure slick back white hair. He would run on the field. He had this deep voice. You know? And he was the only Republican that I've known that basically had no income coming in at all. Okay. Like everything about this man was democratic except for he would watch Fox News every day, right? Right. Vote Republican you make a lot of money tax cuts. No money, no money. But he was watching Fox News because he was a patriot. He was a thought it was the only way. So we used to kill them. All the time. I say his form of currency was Viagra. So I said to him run run. I need a ride to the airport. It'd be ten pills that meant one hundred dollars each pill was ten bucks that was his form of currency. And so that's how you get. I'm going on. That's fifty five pills seat up to fifty bucks. Right. So that's how he communicates form. So one day I got so pissed off at him. So he's supposed to be in charge of shopping. He's supposed to make the coffee go get snacks around the office. But of course, naturally runs camp do much of anything. Right. And the only reason you're still alive is because of IRA you'd have been dead ten years ago unit had no reason to left like Viagra is keeping you alive, and it's pissing off all the insurance companies in America. The only reason your hair so one day I got so pissed off at him. Right. And he would be on his telephone or he would take. Map over in the corner of his living room, which is where we would all watch TV. And so there was no coffee the coffee pots of burning up. There's no ice cream nothing going on. So I don't run, you know, you're either going to die right here in front of the coffee pot. You're going to die right in that chair or you're gonna die in your bed back of the room. And so, unfortunately, I felt so bad like years later. I get a phone call right in front of coffee Pac man, he lived a great life. We need a with. Nobody really knows. Nobody has any idea. I mean, we're going to have to pull teeth to find out. How old he really was. It was a good run. He had he had a going. I mean, he was truly he would sit there. And and it would always be he would watch somebody on TV. And he would always ask what you do. Yes. Yes. We're not going to top that. This is the GM Chappel come back next week. Subscribe on apple podcasts or ever you. Get your shows. We're looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you.

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The AP Draft Show - Episode 7 (2019)

Arrowhead Pride

53:47 min | 1 year ago

The AP Draft Show - Episode 7 (2019)

"Hey listeners we're in the heat of one of the greatest sports events of the year. You guessed it March madness. And the best place to stay on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage CBS sports HQ, what is CBS forte JR. Q. It is the free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights. News and analysis CBS sports HQ got you covered checkout. CBS sports HQ. It is always on always free not to pay a subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. Download the CBS sports app on your phone fire TV Roku or apple TV start watching today. A theory Mary draft miss to you. Thank you for joining us today. My name's Ken, Swanson them lead film and draft analyst for aero head pride. This is the AP draft show. And I believe this is our first episode of April for the draft show this year. I'm always by MacOS final on Twitter at Jake Morley. Jake, it is draft this month. My man the really the best month of the year. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt and this year, especially what I mean, you got the draft. Obviously that little things coming up. You've got the master's. You've got the final four. You've got wrestlemainia this weekend. You've also I'm forgetting one thing thrown stats coming out gingers games coming out. There's a lot. There's a lot here. I think the vendors movie comes out during during draft week into it is like the twenty six I did not do a good. Dan, didn't do a fan of a favor for all of us nerds hold on though. Because you member last year we would write each sought. We saw the movie last year on the Friday of draft weaken little kind of a kind of a little history at me, and Jake we actually take the Friday off of draft miss weekend off like we both get off we go do brunch. We go do a movie or something like that. We just clear that whole day and keep it available. Just to kind of soak the whole dry never work the last month of April the last Friday of April in my professional career. I don't think you have thirty. I think you're right bad one of the cool things that's going to be happening is Craig's actually going to be coming up in celebrating drafts with us this year partially because there is a something that is not been announced yet that will be announced here in the near future that we're all really excited about and then, but he's just going to spend the whole weekend with us kicking it question. What who's to captain America? This year's draft class. You're making me think way too hard to circle back to that. Okay. Is this cliffhanger? You're gonna maybe say at the end of the season. Yeah. Okay. Let's do that a couple of housekeeping notes if you like the air. Hi, pride podcast network. Please feel free to give us five star reviews. Apparently, that's a good thing. Speaking of five star reviews Jake today. I just saw an update there's fourteen people that have given the Casey draft guide of five star review. And no one has actually seated yet well to or my parents to know, we got some really trusting people out there. I appreciate this port. I mean that was cool. I really appreciate that. Like just the fact that like someone said today, they gave me they gave us a five star review because they appreciate our work in the effort and put in like, I promise you we have a lot of effort in. We are in the finalisation stage. Everything is edited we are we are finalizing pages as far as kind of just lay in the guide out and all that stuff, and it will be ready on Sunday. And we are ready to launch it on Monday. I am so excited for you guys to see this. If you haven't heard, I I would be surprised if you're listening to this product pockets and have heard we are launching the Casey draft guide. The first ever addition over two hundred twenty five write ups about prospects and how they fit the chiefs. It's over a hundred thousand words, this is a bad. Boy, this thing is huge. And the features that we just got done writing. I am so excited. If you guys to see like, we're gonna talk one one little tease, we are going to do a launch day episode next next week so on Monday when the guide launches we're going to be doing a launch day episode, and I'm really really excited about that. You can still get the guide for seven ninety nine. If you go to gum dot CO slash Casey draft, promo code countdown that we're we're offering it for seven ninety nine still we're not really going to be advertising discounts on once the once the God, actually launches. So you can still preorder at a at a discounted rate. But. Did it before? It's cool. You know, early on this get it before people are talking about it like, oh, hey, did you see her about this case draft guide get it? So you can say, yeah. Known about that for weeks ago. Discounted yet? 'cause I preordered the mount of people that pre-ordered this thing is just absurd. I'm so I thank you guys so much. We got a lot of cover today. We're basically what we're going to do today is we're going to break down kind of what we feel are the pools of players for the first second and third round that that she's have a realistic chance of picking from. Right. You know, because we talk about these scenarios, and we look through all this stuff. But like we kind of just sat down and looked and said, okay. This is kind of the pool of players for round one. This is kind of the pool players for round two. Maybe a couple of guys he might have to move up the board a little bit for in the first and second round, and we'll just start here. Because me, and Jake we're gonna just kind of discuss the first first round, Jake. I don't want to cover every single one of these guys. Because some of these guys we've covered ad nauseam. Like, we've just we've been very on consistently throughout this. But we'll just stop in talk about a couple. So here's kind of where I look at it. And I say, this is I think if you gave me these ten players I feel pretty good about my chances of the chief taking one of these guys. We'll just go down the list, and we sorted these guys I ranked them by where they are in the Casey draft guide. So clone Farrell were higher on him than the league might be. Or maybe there's just too many Ed rushers that are out there right now that, you know, have higher athletic profiles or something Jeffrey Simmons, he is obviously at the injury one of the things that we're not doing in the guide is we're not sorting and moving guys down the board for injury. We are just know tainting and making sure you guys know that those guys have injury history. So Jeffrey Simmons is a guy that were very high. And we still think is a top ten player, greedy Williams to cornerback from LSU. I don't feel great about this one. But I could see the cheese potentially moving up in the. Into the draft to get a guy like greedy, if they're if they're feeling greedy. Byron Murphy had to keep him on there. Johnny Gardner Johnson. The safety from Florida, Jake, what did you think about Chauncey garner? John. I think we might have talked about him a little bit. But what what was your take on Chauncey Gardner? Johnson the safety from Florida. Yeah. I think for us. She seems to be that guy that kind of keeps rising to the top whenever we do our projections about what we think will happen with the draft. I know we've discussed him just you know, you, and I talking about who might be the best player available when that she's pick. And I think you're starting to get into that range because those first four guys that you just talked about maybe might be guys that you'd have to trade out for sure, and they may be guys that fall far enough to do that now Chauncey garnered Johnson may go before twenty nine as well. But I really like his versatility as a safety, and he is a safety, but he's a safety that that can play the back end. He's got good range. I think you can use them in a variety of ways on the really interesting next to the Honey badger of just because both those guys are so versatile. You could use them in a lot of different ways. So think safety, but think more just a coverage player nickel corner. He's got a wide background played outside corner. Played nickel played liked to throw. Oh, the ball in the NFL. Yeah. He's good at covering guys. That catch them the guy that can throw the ball will bit so. Yeah. Chauncey garnered Johnson's he's I think he is kind of like the starting point for where guys could actually be available in the cheese. Select another guy that were kind of pretty high on. I think he's sitting twenty-second on the on the Casey draft guide board right now, we really haven't talked about him his Jerry Tillery long, really good athletic profile. He's a defensive lineman from Notre Dame six six about three hundred pounds moves really. Well, has the length has the density? Good explosiveness off the snap. I think is best football ahead of them. Do we think he can play that strong side D end, I do, and that's too is kind of endearing to us. Like, we were talking with Craig Mattie, you when we mean, Jake, and Craig we basically DM a lot we just we're we're in the DM's on Twitter's just talk through stuff. This is a move for a guy like Tillery would be. A kind of a Chesapeake to you. Could you could play inside and outside? You could get away with him as a strong side defensive end. So you've kind of got some of that diversity of flexibility that you know, it's a good trait to have it. I think Tillerson's best football's ahead of them. So I was gonna say that, you know, the knock on Hillary is people talk about how he may be doesn't love football. It's not as I love, and which is kind of silly. Because it's like your classic football guys talking about someone that likes to read books. Grabble. This guy likes to go to other countries. He could speak four different languages really committed to being a great NFL player. Just like, no, he's just like someone that has interest outside of football. And that doesn't mean he doesn't love. He's actually do. He's kind of he's kind of a nasty player to when I first started watching a little bit on this kind of like annoyed with them too late chill, man. I don't fall on the guys when they're on the ground already. But he's boat which is nice when he's on your team. He's got that little bit of nasty Unum. So I like Tillery I think him in CJ. Cianci garner Johnson or two guys that are starting to rise to the top for me for the chiefs both of us if they if they do stay there at twenty nine yet. I'm feeling I if Jerry Tillery is the pick. I'm very happy. I think I probably one of the higher on him. So in our group and the Seattle he's still around. He might be a guy that just he's good value there. You're probably not getting the same kind of her civility as you're getting Chauncey garner Johnson. But I think you've. Guy. They can play the post, and I know he didn't test particularly well, he's been dealing with some injuries. It seems like but still good football player. Feel like he's gotten past up in the NFL's is too because this is a pretty I mean, there's really no like elite safety in this class. But there's a lot of necesssarily types. I think there's just like I think it's was corner in safety. It's a lot of fit matters. I mean, it is really important for a lot of these guys Gary bradberry. Gotta keep them on the list. We'll see I I would not just from an opportunity perspective. I mean, great football player. I really like this weird. I really like Garry Bradbury. I don't think I want that. She's taking an interior offensive linemen in the first round Amani AURELIA. That's the name of elite name Amani aurea. Penn State cornerback. I think he's he's a guy that like, I don't know if I'm excited that cheeser taking, but I get it. I like him. I. Dislike him either. I think everyone's got like a mid to late second on him. And I think I have a high second late. I your fringe. I I really like there are certain guys that you just watch. And something about them. You just like I felt the same way. When I watched like Travis white is how I felt when I watched or Loria, and I just feel like they're just always in the receivers hip pocket, and they just are springing. They're like the way they move. They just I don't know how to describe it. But you, and you know, what I'm talking about guys you watch. And just like I have a gut feeling about this guy. I really like it. I I would be probably more excited than you guys use the cheese pick. But he's a guy that that I do quite a bit especially in that second tier of corners and talk about another one. But yes, he's probably my top second tiers guy. I think there's there's there's a lot of the second tier guys in the guy that we're gonna talk about is like, I think some people got a little irritated when we mocked just. Lane for Michigan state out there to the chiefs awhile back, but like he's going to go in that range. She's getting to go in that range. I think lanes probably a don't want to call them a last resort kind of pick at twenty nine. But I don't I for us. Like, he's probably not at the top of the tier? I think we have him in the late thirties as far as our position or as our as our overall big board rankings. So it's not like a guy that compared to others. You're you're through the mood about necessarily, but the athletic profile is exceptional. I think he's I think he's another guy his his developmental Archies still in his infant stages. Developing a cornerback and he's got the Linke's got the ball skills. There's a lot to like about him. I think he's probably a little bit more raw probably not as much plug and play as other guys. But I think if you took that pool right there. I think there's a decent chance that that. She's next pick is is in that pool. Jake. We're going to bring Matty on a second. But first I want to just kind of ask you, we we're gonna do this consistently throughout this whole leading up to the process. Give me another day three sleeper. Yes, I have one for you. This is a guy we have not talked about it all he's got a name that sounds like a few other guys in this draft class. But this is just Shawn Johnson, the Jewish Sean from Texas Tech. He is a fun day three type guy. He is not someone I would want to bring in and have to rely on to be my starting safety because he's a little bit smaller. He did not test. Like I thought he would like I saw on tape. He actually ran like the four six range, and he's like barely pushing five ten one eighty five one ninety. But I think he's a guy that he he's got exceptional closing speed. And if you if you Twitter searches nee. That's what you'll what you will see because that's like his best trait. And that's what people have kind of clung onto when they will Jif of him and stuff like that. But it's true you'll see him just absolutely fly onto the screen and cut down ball carriers or or make a play on the ball. So I think he's got the ability to kind of play that on the back end in kind of being a racer in some capacity. He did not test. Well said so that is troubling. But that's also why he's going to be a day three guy. But I would not be surprised at all to see Shawn Johnson beyond an NFL team be on a team for a long time, and and find some type away to contribute, and that's kind of the route. I went with this day three type because there are some day three types in like, I'm looking at yours, and I think you'll get into this. But there are some day three types that you just take a swing for the fences because they have all the traits. There are other day three types that maybe or limited in some capacity, but they have some ability that you think they will be a contributor on your team for a while. So I think that's. Of how and that's the mold Shawn Johnson fits is someone that you're going to draft and hope that he can contribute in some way or another probably hopefully never as like a fulltime starter. But maybe like a nickel type safety to play in certain packages, and so on and so forth. Yeah. I mean, you're right. There's some sometimes you shoot for the fence swing for the fences on profile. Sometimes you just swing on guys that have a lot of production college. And there's there's kind of two lines of thinking or some guys kind of caught in the middle. My guys Corey Ballantyne in the backyard of the candidacy cheese from Washburn. I'm really I the I watched him a little bit this week again because I wrote about him on for the twenty five days a draft miss profiles that were doing on air with pride in. I mean, I'm just I'm a fan of his I like some personal stuff like from the backstory kind of talking to him at the senior bowl guy came from Jamaica. He's lived into PK his whole life. He's a track star as well. As a football. Player. I'm a fan of his background. He's he he's he's been in the area this whole time. And wouldn't you watched him at the senior bowl early on? He looked overwhelmed during the process early in the process when we were interviewing when he's doing the media stuff. He looked overwhelmed win, you know, they got him the field the first day room kinda rough right? I don't think he was accustomed to the speed of the came. He was a little bit too Hansie us out beyond his frame too much. And then slowly. But surely as the day went on he just got better and better, and I'm a big fan of Corey Balentine. And I think he's another guy. I keep saying this today's best football's ahead of him. I think he's got developmental traits that you like tested well performed well at the NFL combine and I'd love to take a look at him in the later rounds. We're going to bring Matt onto talk about the second round pool. Right after this get your brackets ready, March madness here and the best places they on top of all the NCAA tournament. Coverage. CBS sports HQ CBS sports HQ is a free twenty four hour sports network. That's built for fans just like you from nonstop highlights to news and analysis. CBS sports HQ got you covered by cutting through the noise of hot takes fake debates to get smart analysis, and helpful highlights for your fantasy teams and beyond checkout. CBS sports HQ. It's. Always on and always free. No need to pay a subscription fee or have an expensive cable package. 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Not eating lunch at ten o'clock your time actively just eight right before we started this. Of course, you did always eating that is also met Manny, you'll have you'll be happy. Dull media Cipolla today changes you'd still get quadruple rice, or whatever kind of weird thing. Doubled the rice. I have. No shame. Sorry. I'm sorry. Only. Don't listen to can't. I know it hurts the soul. No, just stop. Okay, mattie. I wanted to go over the second round pool we kind of been workshop and this just talking about like if the cheese stay at sixty one and sixty three or if they move up a little bit. We kind of see this this is kind of a realistic pool players that they could slick some slick from. So let's let's just all this these corners corner. Trayvon. Tremont Trayvon Molin from Clemson Joe Williams from Vanderbilt rock, yes. In from temple de'andre Baker from Georgia. We've talked a lot about those guys. I want you to talk about your guy a little bit Sean bunting from central Michigan. Yeah. So the chiefs are going to be saying here at the end of the second round. And I think there's a good chance to chiefs are still going to be looking at like a tier to kind of corner from the Strath class just like a general guy that I would ring alot Byron Murphy, and greedy Williams, everybody below that. And it's probably a good ten players deep. I'm calling tier two corners. So the urge to pick one of those guys at the end of the first round isn't huge anymore because there's such a small difference between that and this group of guys that we're talking about here at the end of the second round. So whether you wanna take Justin lane or Amani, oh, you warriors at the end of the first round, that's fine. But Sean buntings a guy that you could get at the end of the second that is a century to me the same player if not graded even a little bit better than some of them. He's equally as good of an athlete. Same long athl-. Attic frame. He tested off the charge. Just like both of them. And yeah, he's a little raw just playing it central Michigan. But he's a guy that you watch him and his level of competition. He beats these receivers up off on the scrimmage. He's got some of the better pressman reps that you're going to see you at any of the corners in this clashes pushing guys out of bounds and get it helps playing some lower competition, but he played against Anthony Johnson buffalo, he plead against both draftable Toledo wide receiver. So he played some guys that are going to be in the league, and you got to fix a few transitions and just little stuff like that. Like, you're going to any corner. But the athlete upside in the physicality through the roof, so he just one of my favorite guys and that tiered to group of corners, and we can have the Lucas locomotive and the bunting bus the exact same time. So we're building this entire locomotive like transportation type team in the secondary. Are we the jets the chiefs? That was a terrible joke. But I don't even care because I'm just at this point as push as as we've done the last three months we're wearing down. Okay. Charles bennie. You defensive end plays edge at Texas. Tell me what you think about him. I'm a fan of. I know you kind of have a you like him. Don't love maybe. Yeah. He's okay. To me. He's like the picture. Perfect ideal defensive end for Steve spagnuola defense right now from what we're seeing the guys we've brought in from what we've just seen about his place down everything we've heard like he fits the mold perfectly. But same thing. I don't love him. I fully get why that she's going gonna like them have been interested in him at both the senior bowl and the combine he's big he's long. He's pretty strong. He has the ability to kick inside if you want to from time to time, but he definitely plays the best kind of lined up as between a four which is going to be just off the inside shoulder of the tackle or playing right off the outside shoulder of the tackle. That's read it as best. He plays through the tackle. He's long uses a good rip dip up underneath and pretty much. That's what we're gonna end with him. Because again, he's not my favorite guy. I don't think he shows bend in the hips. And I don't think he's powerful enough to really be the best our rusher out there. He's. A guy. It's a good at everything not great at anything. So he's definitely got odd. Feel more comfortable around three. But if you want them you're going to go round to. Yeah. I think that's where he's gonna wind up is that late round three cheese. Take many you've got Aqaba Okeafor and many, Hugh you got Brees Linden. The three owes like that. That's happening. Safe and kill red Rover team there, by the way, like imagine trying to bust through some of those long Armstrong dibs. Oh, no. There's no way. I mean, all they all they all come from the Steve Spagnolo lab from for edges just long. Yeah. So. Safeties Taylor at Jonathan everyone. We've talked a lot about them. Why receivers keen Butler, you got Devaux Samuel third rec- round think we've talked a ton about and he just had his pro day on Thursday JJ or Sega Whiteside from Stanford right and JJ cigarettes guy wanted to talk about because we haven't talked about him. And actually I've been pretty low on him compared to some other people out there. There's people that absolutely love his tape like some people have wide receiver one two three kind of range, and like I get it into completely fair in the process like he's similar to Kim baller. Even though I didn't like his tape near as much. He's a very tall long wide receiver that is very athletic for a size, and if you're gonna play the same car that I do the team Butler that he has real wide receiver one potential because he's already very good and dominant at one specific trait and has the ability to play in the slot or outside. It's only fair that I mentioned that J J or Sega Whiteside is in the exact same boat. He's a dominant jump ball guy. Even though he doesn't even. Jump that much. She just bought his players out. He literally plays power forward in the end zone. And he boxes out guys. Like, no one I've ever seen in the game of football. Besides tight end. And he doesn't leave his feet. He just shoves guys out of the way using his but not gonna cuss on this podcast is the family podcast. Can't come on now. And then so yeah, I just wanted to bring them up a little bit. He read a four four nine. I believe is where we're sitting at four four eight in the forty right now had thirty four inch jump almost a ten foot broad. So he tested explosive and fast didn't necessarily see it on the film. But again, this is a guy that has the size and the ability to play in the slot and on the outside and be a good player going forward. So if you want him you're going to hope he's their second round. I think he's enticing like Akeem Butler is for the same reasons for the GPS. Matt a little scared ask you this next question. Oh, here we go. Day three sleeper. Give me one. All right. So it's only fitting that we talked a little bit earlier about the guns being out because I have on sleeveless shirt because I don't think my guy porter Guston has worn sleeves in about five years, which is phenomenal. It's perfectly on brand. This is a dude that lives in the gym. He tries weird diets all the time and lives by these crazy diets, and that's something that just. Researching. What porter Guston puts into his body. It's like the first Google thing that comes up about his rehab. I think it was the rehab from the torn bicep last year. So you let me get back to the player Kent. Please continue the reason that he's a day three sleeper is because got ten injury history had a broken toe going into two thousand seventeen then he tore his biceps the shutdown two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen he came out on five seven and a half sacks through six games. And then unfortunately, a bone spurn his ankle he got pushed landed on awkwardly and his ankle broke. So the gods been injured he came out performed everything at the combine and test like in the league athlete. He's legitimately an elite athlete coming off this injury. And we're talking about him going in the third round or the third or fourth round here. And so he fits the spagnuola criteria that we're gonna talk about considering up all the way to the draft about length height size and weight, he's super strong, and these are all things that matter just these Nolan what I really like about him despite fitting all the size criteria. He's got some juice. He's got the ability to actually been the edge a little bit. And that's where it really impresses me as he fits the mold. But he plays an entirely different style than Brillon speaks or Alex Ogle for. Or Charles or Charles M in you. Yeah. But it's a little little things like that. They got really enticing by him. And again, he fits my brand. He's everything that I am about guys that I love football. He's got a man bun. He's got a beard and he lives in the gym. That's an instant first rounder. If it wasn't for the injuries. Where's your men? But Matty, when I get one you've talked about this before my wife will not let me grow up my hair because once it gets to about four inches. This thing starts to curl, and we get a little bit of a fro going on. It's not pretty. Oh, my your Cory Matthews. We're not gonna go there. I'm not digging spot with the response to imagine Mattie lane Jake with a Cory Matthews throw. Yeah. It's a little it's a little wave your of curls. But yes, very curly hair. If it starts to grow out, you definitely agree. You're out in high school. Absolutely not. I bet you I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go creep on Facebook. Okay. I wanna ask you this one question. Schwedt twenty nine asks I great question. Jake answer. We're going to answer later, you lead us off on this one favorite names in the draft last year. I really like me if it's Patrick Armani. Watts Hercules to Africa give me one all. So my favorite is an off all one backer from Akron named Ulysses Gilbert and only for the reason that he obviously sounds like a president, but even more. So you see a guy you listen. And then you see them in shorts, and we're getting back to the brand this dude had legs assize at tree trunks and his name's leasees Gilbert, that's just an instant win for me. Yeah. No. That's a good. That's a good point. I think he did he go to the struggles. That right. Yeah. I believe it was the shrine. Yeah. The shrine game. And they had the picture of them. But I just remember laughing at his name when I heard it because you listen, he's Gilbert does not sound like a football player. It's better than being the small headed pass rusher. But the name did not sound like football player. But then you just see the picture of the big legs. Magic to the the name. We're set. That's thought him on Twitter at TV Carolina. Thanks, bud. I'm on Twitter at barley, hop, Craig style. So but. Not much man today has been the day from hell, I'm so glad to be sitting down here talking with you guys about football right now this really excited talking about football with us right now, though. That's that is exactly how bad my day has been. I would I I'm loving talk to you guys. Now that is rough. Yeah. Yeah. It's rose. Hop or the hop harvest just not not fruitful this year. No, actually. No. The hops are doing great growing right away. The William Mets are only one that haven't really sprouted buds yet the rest. I don't really know. What you're nobody wants to. I don't know. Trying to get at. But I'm really excited to be talking sports ball with you as. But I I am too. I guess. Okay. Third around player pool. Kind of. Been deconstructing and looking at like a pool of players that could realistically be in the first the second. Now, we're going to give you the hard one Craig because your day hasn't been has been just way too easy. So let's talk a little bit about the third around player pool. We kind of been working through this. I'm gonna have you talk about a few players guys that we think that she's realistically. Take in the third round tristen hill defensive lineman from central Florida. Jalen, just they just need to take them. Trysted Hilda matter what if. No matter what get the get the post. It note out. Write it down. You wanna know something do you know, what the anti Tristan hill is the next guy? Ferguson. The next guy on the list. I mean, honestly, this is the right spot for him though. There's rights go I want you to talk about Jim L dean because I don't think we spent a lot of time him the cornerback from Auburn. What do you think about him because he tested phenomenally? He tested super phenomenal. He ran a four three forty. He had a forty one inch vertical in one hundred thirty inch broad. He's a guy that just lit up. The combine put him on a lot of guys radars. He that speed shows up on onscreen. He's a guy that can cover every single receiver in the NFL vertically problem is he's just got really stiff hips, and that's why he's gonna fall to this point. He struggles a little bit with some of his route recognition, but he does have some pretty decent ball skills, and that speed and the link that he has I mean, he's a six one two six corner. So he's well built he's going to come up and tackle. And he's just a guy that fits a lot of the things. Steve's bag Nola wants out of his corners. He just has a little bit of rigidity and tightness coming in and out of breaks. That's what's going to drive them down the the draft board. Honestly, I think he's a safety. Yeah. I think you could be a safety too. That would kinda limit some of his hip rigidity on the back end there. He certainly got the speed to and his rangy enough to kind of play back there. I'd worry a little bit about his route recognition, but in Brown three getting an athlete like that. You're just gonna take that. Okay. Keep going down the list is as Johnson cornerback tested exceptionally as well all these kind of guys definitely tested, a high level a guy. We haven't talked about a lot Jake or Craig that I think you should kind of dress drew tranquil the linebacker from Notre Dame drew tranquil guy that I really really like watching him play. He's a tone setter. He's a converted safety. So he's got coverage ability, but he's just a little bit small, and he's got injuries that have kind of loaded them up a little bit. He's torn both of his ACL's. He's just kinda got nagging injuries. One of those guys that you know, several times as you're watching games you see him go to the sideline because he gets he gets dinged up. And he's gotta be. Looked at. So he he's a guy that has everything that teams are going to want out of a will linebacker coverage ability. He can hit he's got sideline to sideline range. He can set an edge against tight ends as well. He's a guy that's going to get drafted and play. Really? Well, when he can be on the field his problems just that he can't get on the field all that much Andy's already twenty four. So can't hate him. Of course. I mean, if if you're not if you're over twenty four older like your your dinosaur, you're dead to Kent. Yeah. Blake Cashman linebacker from Utah. We talked about him foster Moreau the tide from LSU. We've talked a lot about Jay stern burger from Texas. AM David Montgomery from Iowa State scary, Terry MacLaurin, the wide receiver from Ohio State won last guy. Want to talk about Riley rigidly wide receiver from Georgia. Jake. I know you kind of the primary guy on this. What do you think about him is Blake Cashman from Utah? Yeah. Late cashman. Who's the Minnesota kid? Minnesota. No, the Utah, kids Cody Barton. Sorry. Yeah. This is my phone. Hey, seeing I'm on top of things bellies. You good thing. I don't have this mental fatigue bomb. I'm paying my stride. Yeah. So Blake Cashman from Minnesota. Minnesota Minnesota I feel really bad because I just stereotype white linebackers. Well. Not much better soda. Oh, yeah. Anyways, anyways, Riley Ridley from Georgia. I do not like him as much as some other people. Do he's not a guy that I just see a clear path to success in the NFL. So even in the third round, I wouldn't be super wild about it. I would much rather have like a scary. Terry rally really is not as big as some people think he is. He's like six foot one ninety. He did not test. Well, he's not a good looking athlete on film, in my opinion. And I don't really see what people love about his routes. It's not a super Vance route tree and they're not great. So in the third round wouldn't be van. And adding onto that like from a production standpoint, it wasn't like he was overly productive player, Georgia either. So you've got a limited athlete. I didn't think he separated at a high level. And there wasn't a ton of production there either. Like, it's a weird combination for everybody be. So highly regarded Craig do you have any thoughts on reality? Really? I mean, I would say that I'm probably higher on him than you too. I like him. I think he's very smooth and very fluid and especially with his releases. He can get off the release really well, and maybe part of that's because I watched a lot of teams play against Georgia reviewing cornerback. So I watched Riley Ridley beat up on a lot of guys that are going to be drafted in this draft class at cornerback. He gave Joe on Williams fits in that Georgia offense. So I think that he does have a path to success. But yeah, I'm with Jake. I think he's falling to little more. I expected him to be a better athlete than he. Was. Yeah. It wasn't great day. Three sleepers. Jay won't you won't you give me the data me sleeper because we've been doing that last couple of weeks. Yeah. This is a guy that immediately. When I watched him, I screamed this is Steve Spagnolo edge defender Austin Bryant out of Clemson. And when I say days three I mean day three we're talking maybe round six seven. He's a guy that is long and he's strong. He's down to get the friction. We say that every week and every week live. He's six four he's to seventy one and he's got freakishly long arms. He's a guy that played really well off of Christian Wilkins, and stunted and twisted. Really? Well, as an edge player, he played opposite Cleland feral a lot. He definitely benefited by not being the guy in that four man rotation there. But he's a guy that I think makes some sense based on what Spag no likes out of his edge defenders and a guy very late in the in the draft there. He's going to be a guy that is just going to stick around because he's a good football player. He's just kind of capped athletically, and physically so he just makes it a lot of sets based on the rest of the players that they've added so far you look at like two years ago. He's one of those guys that people thought was a top fifty prospect two years ago, you know, like there's a lot of guys that wind up falling. You know way. Back over time. But like Austin Bryant was a guy that people were like this guy's a first round prospect like two years. Lutely, absolutely. He was a four star top fifteen nationally coming out of high school. I mean, he's a dude everybody loved he just never really got to that point. He's just not that kind of athlete. It was part of that group of Clemson de Lyon that we question do they have four first round players on their defensive line. Yeah. And no. They might have three. Next goes. Bri-? Aegis got clumped together with. Big Wilkin, big Wilkin, Dexter Lawrence and clone feral. I mean, they have top fifty third. They're all going fifty and Bryant just got clump together with them. So of course, eleven years from now Austin Bryant is going to be celebrating super successful NFL career while we're talking about the three other. She's didn't make a second contract of the draft. We're gonna be complaining that the ravens paid him twenty million dollars going, man. What is he going to do with this contract and just you know, rack up ten sacks year? Yeah. That sounds about right. Okay. Sweb Twenty-nine asked. I had had Mattie into this already favorite name in the draft. Oh, this is easy for me. So you only talk talk. Oh, my guy. Sam linebacker, donate Taki Taki. He's my guy. That's my favorite name in the draft right there. Even more than Joe on jo-hun. Joe haunt that is barley up. Everybody's at chief of the verge has podcast every week called the verge cast my friends, Paul Miller, indeed or bone. 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And if you like it Tele friend, I'm Spencer hall, don't do anything smart. We're going to close this thing out with a mail bag today. Jake, I want to start with web twenty nine th question favorite name in the draft. There's a lot of good options. But I really like. Sheldrick ray. Show that red wine. I think he's gonna make a play in the NFL. Like, I would love it. If that stadium would play that song, and he's the safety from Miami's actually pretty good. He's not bad. Here's the thing about this year's draft is kind of weird guys like rock ya sin and oceans Zimmer this we've been talking about for like weeks. So it's like not as fun to talk about a guy like that. Right. You know, like, the those names like are very common. Everybody is saying so like, I don't I that's not fair. Let me go with the let's see here. Let me give you a good one. I like little Jordan Humphry. Will jordan? He's got L I L on his name. Did you know the story? Do you know the story behind that? I don't. So when he was born his older brother is a huge Michael Jordan fan. And so he wanted to name them my Jordan by after Michael Jordan, and his mom was like, nah, little comb a little germ. Screw star. Google is real. I don't know. I don't know if that's the exact dialogue that happened. But yes, no, his older brother is Michael Jordan fan and his mom named him little Jordan. Okay. That kind of made my day that that made a rough day. Very good. That's not real real. Wow. Okay. I think that's even in the guide might have made it in the guy. Art. I haven't I haven't read all two hundred and twenty-five ride ups yet. And I haven't read little Jordan Humphries because he's weighed on at the top of your list. Hamp Cheever's just a phone to say is Brutus Cornelis asks if if all over falls Ed over at what number do, you think the the cheese would trade up for him? So I think I don't think that they would trade up to like fifteen to go get a guy like at all over. I think it would just kind of be one of those situations where if fell to where they could give their third into the early twenties. That's where they would wind taking Oliver. He's not I don't know if he's a guy that they would be really aggressive to acquire. But be oppertunistic with right? Yeah. And I think you'd have to start thinking too. If he's falling in the first place because NFL scouting department's view him differently than we on Twitter do so would the chiefs even tried out for them would they value in that high? Why would they think differently than everyone else? Hopefully because they're smarter and they go do it. Right. But carried out, but I don't know. I would. Yeah. I agree with you. I think he would need to probably fall into the early twenties. And then where it's just like, you know, we're not giving up a tone to go get him. But we'd like them enough that we're just going to make it happen. Andrew Metcalfe seven asks what are the chances that the cheese draft a linebacker in the first three rounds? I don't think it's super high. I mean, they've spent a lot of early assets and a lot of money at the linebacker position. You've got door, you know, Daniel with a third around pick. And you know, this year's fourth is being spent on Reggie Ragland. And they spent a lot of money on Anthony Hitchens like that's not a position where I think you can go in use one of your four best assets to address that position. Maybe if if they were it would be a Sam they would be trying to identify more of a rush Sam type player like that. That's the only thing that makes sense to me when it comes to the linebacker position. Well, also, there's not a linebacker were taking in the first three. Around. That's not named Devon. Through Wilson, you could probably make a case for he would be the only one I probably as for the the linebacker market is weird in the straffed because you've got very top-heavy. But then it's everything else is just day. Three guys. More very close today. Three guys. It's it's bizarre. At Tisza l- sage elite that's an elite named Jake and Tisza sage asks if Hopkinson TJ Hopkinson falls to twenty one in no big defensive players are on the board. Do you risk it all and go get him? This is kind of one of those the same things that all over. I don't know. If I go train for TJ Hopkinson because I think TGI fantastic football player. Do not gave me wrong. He's one of the ten best players in this class. But do you trade up for a tight end give up your third round pick? Because that's getting the twenty one that's gonna cost you ninety two. It's going to cost you pick ninety two to get all the way up there. So you're going to do that. And then you're gonna have a tied in address, and you're gonna have sixty one in sixty three to make your defense better. And you're not gonna have ninety two to move up in the second round. And you're you're basically stuck waiting until whatever's left at corner, I don't like your flexibility there to maneuver the board to try. To address the cornerback position. I think that's that's that's a tough tough move to make and on top of it when you're gonna drop. TJ Hawkins seemed to come in and not be your future tied end. 'cause you have Travis Kelsey. So to be a second tied, and I would much rather as much as I love TJ Hopkinson to me like he's atop seven player in this draft class. But if I'm the chiefs, I would rather just take foster Moreau or like hallway warring in the third round. And let him be that second tight end. And honestly, I don't think the drop offs going to be that different. When you're not asking them to be like your feature number one tight end. Yeah. I mean hawks has better. But they hawk hawk is going to have a specific role in that offense. That is not being the feature tight end. I think it would be he'd be playing more in line. So I said foster. Those you can do that for sure now at the same level. But you talk about your cost efficiency. Yeah. I wouldn't give up ten to get Hopkinson. If on the cheese, I wouldn't either. It's nothing on the player because he's awesome chief in West Virginia asks if there is one quarter, you could see the cheese realistically taking that could come in compete for a starting role. Who would it be? I mean, I think there's a few that actually could guy like Justin lane. I think is going to take a little bit of time. This question in context, or they do you think they're talking about the first round or maybe like a more of a made around guy that can compete for. I started asking general. So I mean, I think if you're taking a guy in the first round. Yeah. You'd better better Opie is going to come in and compete for a starting job. I don't know. I'm not sure like Justin lane probably could. But I don't know if you would right away. He might be a guy that takes some time develop. I think Monty or are you probably could. Compete right away. I just think it just kind of pens on like, that's I think that this is kind of that the rue of the chiefs issues at the cornerback position when it comes to this draft because you've got a lot of guys that have good athletic profiles that that that are that need a lot of work like, Sean bunting and just lane and. Like Isaiah Johnson. The good productive corners that have a lot of experience have a lot of production in college or bad athletes like like de'andre Baker. I was just going to say to you. I think that is in that kind of the case for Jeon dre Baker anyways, drafting a guy that you don't think is maybe ever going to be a Pro Bowl type player, but he's going to be a competent NFL starter. And so what point do you take a guy like that? If you're especially if you're the cheese that they just need. Busy bodies out there that can play an NFL level. And I think the Andrea Baker is that it's a new, and that's why I think those questions pretty new awesome. That's actually a really good question. Because you gotta look at it a lot of different ways the talent level the defense the range in which they're taking them. And then like de'andre Baker could probably play pretty early for the chiefs. I don't think the Andre Baker. I don't think the reason be Andre Baker could be available to the sixty one is because of his football ability though, right? The question marks are starting to come out about character and coach ability and effort and all that stuff. So I think Baker I think Baker probably I think he could compete right away. But it's it's the other stuff that is having him fall. The quarterback the quarterback situation. Guys is it's the most fascinating piece of this whole thing. And it's I I'm stressed about it just trying to play the game myself working through all these these these scenarios, there's not a great. Way to approach the cornerback position. And the cheese have a lot of decisions make trying to trade for one makes a lot of sense. I get why they would try to do that. That's going to do it for this week's episode. Thank you for joining us. We will be back on Monday four launch show for the KC draft guide. Thank you guys so much for listening. We'll talk to you. I'm Spencer hall by name is Jason Kurt. My name is Ryan nanny, we combined. We form the shutdown full tried keep telling you this forecast is technically a college football podcast. But it's also a show about care disaster. We grocery stores we live Tennessee Batman homeowners. Associations, bears video games. Pittsburgh Batman the hell of being drafted a group. Text unreliable legal advice. 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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Where's the value at WR, TE? Draft analyst Matt Waldman tells us

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'Valentine's Views' podcast: Where's the value at WR, TE? Draft analyst Matt Waldman tells us

"Welcome to another edition of the Valentine's views podcast giants fans a week ago. We had Matt Waldman of the rookie scouting portfolio on with us. And we spent an hour or so talking quarterbacks, but that is not all that does met discusses Matt is knowledgeable about all of the various skill positions. So today we have met joining us once again what we're going to do is go through the the receiver positions as they relate to the giants Mets on the line right now. How you doing today? Matt thanks for joining us again. Thanks for having me back at a good time. Talk about quarterbacks in this should be just as fun. Well, yeah. You know, I got to give you a hard time though. Because since the last time, we talked I saw that you did Patty train us podcast. I saw that. You did big blue kickoff live with John smell. You know, come on, man. I'm telling you. I'm a I'm a mercenary. What can I tell you? How it just it? Just just tells you that you're a popular guy that people value your opinion, you know, as we do here. So that's good stuff. And I'm just I'm glad that people want me back, but you know, Patty, and I used to do art used to show together back in the day. And I always I always give her a hard time about steel in my guests. Well, she certainly she does fine work as well. You know, and and it was kind of funny because when I when I heard you talking about that earlier that she she she contacted million than I got the contact from feebles Schnell that was pretty funny too. So I thought it's going to make our time coming back on this show. But whatever it's worth, of course, I am. You know? Hey, it's it's all it's all in fun. And you know, it's all people love talking about the giants. And so let's let's do some of that, Matt. And let's start with this. The the news that broke yesterday was the giants signing sterling shepherd to a pretty long. I think four year extension supposed to be in the neighborhood of forty one million dollars. Just you know, from your perspective a quick thought on on the kind of player sterling shepherd is in the the extension that he got from the giants. I think it shows that they're looking for someone that they want to build his receiving core around, and they feel at ease the type of worker the type of route runner the consistency factor in his game is good enough that you wanna lock him up for a while. I get that. He's a he's a player that you know, reminds me a little bit of a former giant that I really loved in this in when he came out in the draft. And that was during the time of the Matt line area, which was Steve Smith. I was a big fan of the giants. Steve Smith before he got hurt because he could do a little bit everything he can stretch the field for you with tremendous quickness a clutch player. He was a terrific route runner he could play a little bit in a little bit outside as well as inside. And I think that shepherd is a player that I think they hope can develop where he has that kind of Steve Smith upside. And I think that he's already even if he doesn't reach that point. He's already reliable guy that you can lock in. Place. No that you're gonna get someone who can make the correct route adjustments be there for quarterback create a good target for his man and be able to help them move. The changes wells occasionally makes a big place. It's funny. You mentioned Steve Smith, I always liked Smith. But toward the maybe it was after he started to to suffer some injuries. I always think of him as catching fall down Steve Smith. Yeah. Guy that catch get make the catch and get down. No yards after catch nothing. Yeah. And that was that was it after the injuries at pretty much didn't form. And I think before that you had he was a guy who made Matt liner. Look a lot better than maybe liner was. So it was a is just one of those things. Sometimes it's a shame, but grew life spans are short in the NFL injuries that you'd factor for that. What is your take? Obviously the giants signed golden Tate in. I think we've talked about this a little bit. What is your take on the concern that some people have that that take in shepherd our guys that that have similar skill sets? And that it might be hard for them to play together. I think that I think it's there's some validity to that. If the offense doesn't show the magic nation should, but there are some differences here that are noth- to to kind of give them separate roles for take take can be more of a flanker in the sense where he's tough. After the cash he's a physical player. He's I think he's a little better than shepherd winning the ball at the catch point. And he has the speed to get deep, and we saw that with him in Seattle when he had the connection he had with Russell Wilson, you know, in Detroit, the the more recent exposures people had a think of as a slot receiver. And they forget about the fact that he wasn't outside presence who could win the ball in the air could get deep. An additional fact that he runs like a, you know, like a Scott back with a little power after the catch. So this is a physical player, and you get you know, shepherds kind of craftsman you get a real physical presence who can block who can you know, who can also be a presence after the catch in a way that construct the fuel horizontally for the for the giants because of the presence of saquon Barkley can split them out opposite sides, and you get the players. Defensive backs linebackers out to be equally concerned about when they have the ball in space, the other thing, I guess that. I think about is the fact that you have you know, offenses aren't static. These guys don't line up in the same spot, you know, every single time. I mean, unless you're running the Mike McCarthy, you know, offense ninety five ninety five percent of the time in eleven personnel. Which giants fans are familiar with? Thanks to Ben mcadoo guys move around. So I think there's there's that benefit to these guys aren't always going to be in the same place the same alignments, absolutely 'cause they're looking for matchup advantages, and you're gonna see certain things where baby teams will look at Sheppard and gold tape and you'll see vendors kind of look at the mess. The same kind of role in certain situation and realize that that kind of got numb outfox there and put into in the situation where take might have a little bit more of an advantage with certain types of routes or certain type of look, and that can lead to some stakes in terms of opportunities to create pre snap a mismatch is or league defenders into a false sense of security that there may be they may be running the blocking on this play as opposed to going out for a route. So there's there's levels things you can do. And I do think they're different enough players that it's that people are just kind of looking at. What happened lately with Tate in Detroit as opposed to what he was in Seattle. It'll be interesting to see what happens once the giants. You know, get into lab and get all these guys on the field and see what they can create. But I think we know, you know, heading into the draft here in a couple of weeks that the giants I wouldn't consider them to have a complete receiving core by any stretch of the imagination. So I would suspect I mean at some point in this draft that they have to dip into the receiver pool. So let's do that right now. And what I really wanna do. We're kinda going to go through sort of where the giants pick and the players who might be value at at the different spots in the draft. And to be honest. I mean looking at Tate looking at shepherd looking at Korey Coleman who they brought back. I mean, the one thing that the giants don't. Have is that bigger bodied guy that outside guy on unless you wanna make Evanston grenade to that guy. So we're kinda I'm kinda going to ask you to as we think about it to lean toward talking about about those guys that are a little different type of player than what the giants have now. Yeah, that sounds great. And I think before we do that. Let's just think about that for second to like two little cabbie outside like mentioned before really delve into this one is that it is quite awful that they decide that they wanna make Ingram guy that plays more on the outside and be more receiver and then they draft the tight end. And there's plenty of great tight ends in this class. So where you can get a complete tight end a better blocker than Ingram who might be a better interior receiver than Ingram. And then he could putting your money outside Lyneham win with his size in his speed. Leaping ability in the other caveat is this is that if if you talk to anybody in the scouting community. Who's who's who's worked in that community? You learn pretty well that that there's more variation in greats for for receivers among teams or between teams than any position that they look at in the NFL allow that has to do with like you were alluding to the type of position that type of role that you're looking at whether it's a slot receiver split end your flanker. Or if you're looking at players who can be combination of two to three of those roles, and that can filter your pool in a way where you may want. He may have a second round grade on a player and three other teams may have sixth-round grade on that player. So as we go through this, you know, you wanna keep that in mind because most likely, you know, I'm gonna name some players, and we're gonna talk about them in a second third or fourth round and some of the mega much higher or much lower interesting. But you know, at least. It goes back to the fact that there is no such thing as a hard and fast rule of you know, who the best player available is because two different sets of eyes to different teams, you know, even different scouts within certain teams will always see players in a different way. And it depends largely on on what they feel like they need what they're scheme is in. What players they're teaming that those guys with right? So where I wanna start is at number six. Now, interestingly, we were we were kidding about Pat traina in locked on giants the other day and and full disclosure here. I actually did Patty show earlier this week myself. You see see there? It is. Well, you know, I used to co host over there. So once in a while, I dropped by you know, just so folks remember me, but it's funny because she asked me what I thought if there was one sort of outside the box move that nobody had really thought about that would kind of turn the giants draft on its head. She asked me, you know, what that move would be. And I need to start at number six. I keep hearing that the giants are doing an awful lot of work on TJ Hopkinson. And I think there's no wide receiver that I can think of that that would have value at six, but I can't necessarily see the giants doing this at six with all of their other needs. But I keep thinking, you know, if they wanted to turn the draft on their heads Hopkinson. Might be a guy to look at it six. Oh, I think it's definitely something that you have to look into because he is that good of a player. He can start right away for team because he is that a block he you can use him on the wing you can use in line against offensive ends Outside Linebackers. You can use as a fullback you can split them in the slot or outside, and he can do all he's got the size already to anchor in hold up. He's a good puncher younger stands out. Get come off the line with his back loan as pads low. He can turn very quickly turned defenders quickly. He's a good lead blocker. So you get someone who's already at better blocker based on what we saw last season than evidence grow. And you get a player who also can work the scene down field and win contested plays and run after the catch. So if you wanted to say, listen we ever receiving core. We're just gonna put Ingram. You know at split end or put him at flanker. We're gonna put the other guys where the where they need to be. And we can rotate Coleman we can use Latimer in certain leverage situations, if he continues to show up, and if that's the case, then you end up consolidate your position and part of that is that you could use Ingram as the second tight end. He doesn't have to be on the front side of blocking schemes. So he can end you can be the guy can sneak out of the backfield sneak out off the line and use him on that level or you could be more multiple in your look. So you have two tight ends split. One out pre snap motion them to the receiving parcel. You can take advantage of what the coverage shows you. And now you're looking at a rob gronkowski Aaron Hernandez type of situation in terms of how these players could be used in the way that the patriots did your to go and that I can see why they're studying. That because when you have multiple tight ends that creates a lot of issues the colts did a lot of great work with that last year where they even ran things like three verticals four verticals using three and four tight ends. And looking like they were going to you know, they're gonna run the football. Just you know, compressed the box play you know, short short yardage football. And the next thing, you know, three of those tight ends or running verticals off out of the formation. They're getting big place out of that. And you could send e how the giants decide listen we've got saquon Barkley we want to look like we're going to be a physical power to eat. But we also want to be multiple enough that we can spread the field in as soon as as soon as the defense decides they're gonna use personnel and take advantage of them for that. So I love the idea is very creative one. We'll see if they take it seriously enough to to go that route. I have my doubts just because of all of the they've spent so much time talking about how much they need to upgrade their defense. You know, how much they they really could use a right tackle. And of course, you know, the quarterback discussion, which I don't think they're going to go quarterback at six, but it it's an intriguing idea. I just I think I would be I would be shocked if they pulled the trigger on it at six agree. And I think if they went really that could probably go around or two later there some guys that can still do that with guys like Dawson knocks of ole miss is of very fine blocker who has that same versatility? And can also catch the ball up thanking. He's terrific athlete is just underrated because he wasn't used a lot as receiver at ole miss. But he could be bargain version that for Hopkinson there's a guy really love tight end by traverse. John West go from West Virginia who's a former quarterback. When he came up or high school quarterback. But he's he was literally praised as part of the offense of live for West Virginia last year in terms of how Weli block he's about two hundred seventy pounds. Unbelievably quick really fluid hips can run those type of whip routes that you see slot receivers run. He doesn't have great speed. But he's very good after the catch. And suddenly, you have a guy who played a lot of fullback h back and also in line work in Trevan west co- at that could accomplish the same thing, you could get him may be on day two or maybe even days we. Nice. We'll get more into the into the the the day three, you know, type players as we get along here. But let's go to seventeen where I think it might be more likely that the giants I still think they're going to lean toward quarterback or or adding to their defense here. But if they wanted to add to the receiving core, I think hocken sin, you know, the way I the way I understand it the wit from what I've been told. I don't think Hopkinson is going to be a choice at seventeen I think he's he's probably going to be off the board by then. But I think maybe we start to get into a couple of the bigger bodied wide receivers that might be available guys that you think might be available at seventeen who who would be value guys who could get picked in that range there a lot. Guys, because there's even talk that maybe teams are starting to figure out that maybe we should wait on receipt of us were absolutely sold at the guys like the next Calvin Johnson. Now, I think there are a number guys in this class who are good enough to be franchise caliber receivers. But it doesn't seem like there's a consensus about that. But as a result, if there are if these guys are on the board, I think Akeem Butler would be in a mazing pick for the giants. If he somehow slips that far, and he probably will e six five to twenty seven he runs those whip routes at six five to twenty seven watch him against Iowa last year. And you'll see him beat a cornerback on whip route working inside back to the outside. We has to drop his way flip his hips in succession and beat the man so badly that he had to be tackled. So that the so that he didn't catch the target. Beforehand in basically committed interference. You don't see receivers that big run that unless our name is Calvin Johnson. That's I mean, that's how good of a hot fluid is now. Yes. Emissions which Rops? And so people often say we don't wanna receive who drops the ball. But you have to understand that the way the NFL if you really studying receivers, well, you can text relies what those drops are. And there's three types of drops at our common with receivers. There's the focus drops, which are just basically the equivalent of say, you're teaching your your daughter how to drive and you get to the stop side. And and she's like listening to the radio or telling you, something interns. Doesn't seem go Adam stop sign and she has to stop real quickly. You know, maybe she ran through the stops on over. There is one of those things it's just more of attention to focus. He used the correct ethnic knows what to do. But he's he's to focus on maybe the next task or tasks that, you know. Looking at the defenders coming or trying to talk the ball. That's mostly a key butlers issue. You know, but people off and make it out to be a secret more serious issue. But those series issues are technique driven. You know, not using the hands in the correct of position based on the location of the targeted to me. That's more. Like, you know, if you're using the drive analogy, it's kind of where you you're gonna hit the gas pedal instead of the brake pedal because you you just got distracted as a beginner driver in that can be dangerous, obviously, but you can go back to the parking lot with with student driver in say here, we're going to go five miles an hour until you figure out how they hit the break in the gas. You know at the right moment and not get distracted there. And the most dangerous one is where you you may know, how to hit the brake pedal, but you don't know how much pressure to put on it consistently. And you keep rolling the intersection with gas jar Barron down from the opposite side, and those are people who don't track the football while they just don't understand how really track where it should arrive in where they should reach four guys like Sammie Coates had that issue. Of Troy Williamson that issue. Jake Reed back in the day at that issue not always played their game. And so people sometimes conflict drops with that key Butler is a guy that I think is probably I think the best receiver in this class on. And I think he's the most versatile, and if they wanna be multiple use that versatility. He's the guy miles boykin. No, he's the real. Combine wonder is a guy with slot receiver metrics four point zero seven twenty shuttle six seven seven three cone drill forty three and a half inch vertical? Leap and he's two hundred twenty pounds and six four, and he doesn't have those hands issues at all he tracks the ball extremely well. He's good after the catch he strong. He runs to riff routes breaks back to the ball. Extremely well. So you can rely on him variety of ways. It wasn't talked about a lot. Because didn't have a great quarterback. And people wondered if he was truly that faster. Not. But you can see it on tape matches up as what you see. And then then another guy could be. Multiple is AJ Brown. Who's certainly, you know, more of a slot player. And I don't think the giants will go after him, but he can win the catch point. And you could probably put him at flanker because he's very good after the catch. But I think they need more of a split in than that guy beings. If you're gonna look for split ended this class decay Metcalfe's that guy decay Metcalf. You know, he doesn't have great bend with the way he drops his weight in his routes in and out of his brakes of and I worried that tighter coverage will Biggs Asir bait. That issue where now defensive backs in the SEC all over college are just scared out of their minds about getting beat deep by him. So they'd get a lot of cushion. But the same thing goes with him as I think he's so physical it the way he uses his hands. He so violent with his head that he can create runways just doing that. And and then he gets up to that fourthly speed that he has and he's off to tackle any can win the ball all the catch boring. He has occasional technique issues with. His catching and he also drops passes, but again technique is fixable. Just a matter of understanding when he needs to put his hands up high for certain types of throws as opposed to using a lower hands technique. So he's a little more. He's a little less refined than Butler boykin Brown of. But his physicality at high would use him as a split in. That's all you wanna use them for. It's like going to the hardware store and saying you want a hammer, and you're not gonna get all caught up whether or not the hammer concern into a wrench. He's a hammer. And he's a guy is gonna get downfield. Just have the deep the zones of of defense. So the one name that you mentioned that surprised me a little bit as we were talking about that particular point in the draft was was miles boykin. Do you really think that he would be in the conversation that early in the draft or or is he a guy that that would come a little bit later on? I think he's fog end up in the second round. He shouldn't be. But I'm just looking at highlight, great guys. So to me he's that good. He he should be the conversations while the top three or four receivers in this class of. But most likely he will probably fall to the second round in this in this class will be of quiet thing, we got remember that, you know, past examples, we've talked about players, we think are gonna be first or second guys and in the past. We didn't think Paul Richardson would be a second route guy for the Seahawks. When Dante Pettis would be a second round guy for the forty Niners last year. So I'm kind of open to that because I'm debt at this was my first ranked guy last year on the board just ahead of Ridley DJ more and Don strategy see that petty started. Flash solo skills. Once it got LV. So yeah, I don't know what boy can will be someone that they might account and said we can probably get him maybe in the second round. And if they do that will be quite a bargain. And as you said, you know, at the top when we started to discuss this teams have such a wide variety of of grades in any opinions on wide receivers that you know, that you never know, you know, how some of these guys are going to fall, you know. So the giants have the they have the picket thirty seven, and you know, and you talked about boykin. You mentioned Dawson Knox. I don't. I don't know. If Dawson Knox is a is a tight end who would be in consideration that early just, you know, off of your grades. You know, who might some of the guys that that they could be looking at, you know, at thirty seven be maybe a couple of guys we haven't talked about yet. Certainly as another tight end, Irv Smith is kinda delaying Walker type. I would say if you can feel he's a good blocker. He's not quite as big as Hopkinson, but he holds up very, well, technique wise, and he is I think he's the best receiver after the catch. Even though he's not the quote, unquote, most athletic, but he's the most polished tight end in this class, and you know, comes from great bloodlines from earth. Smith senior who played for the New Orleans Saints in the forty Niners for quite a long career. And he is a good tight end who could be split outside versatile. And could give you that Delaney. Walker type of player, but in addition terms of otherwise receiver talents, the keel, Harry might be there, you know, and a lot of people see him as a big slot receiver. And I think that may be the case, but he's also a guy who you know, can win one on one in the deep game at with his physicality, and he's also a guy that you can move around. So if you're looking for multiplicity in terms of multiple looks in terms of higher seniors could move around at different positions. Harry can also play tennis different roles on team. So he would fit in well in that regard. And I think that those, you know, those two guys probably make the most sense of thirty seven. You might see if team I would say this is doubtful based on how he performed at the combine. But if a team is just really in love with Kelvin Harman's tape, and they feel like we'd love his physicality. We like how can run double moves? We feel like he can be possession. Plus kind of split end for us in Alan Robinson tight, but maybe not quite as faster dynamic Kelvin bet car. Kelvin Harbin is a is a guy who wins really well to catch point. And they may see that another one might be an it may seem like an odd pick. But it's Paris Campbell. And the reason it's gonna see my to everybody on yours could be pretty obviously seeing him as more of a slot receiver. There's a lot of talk in being Streep draft me that he can't get deep or that. He wasn't used a lot as deep player only six to five. But we gotta remember that Paris. Campbell's is a hyper lead athlete of this is a guy with four three speed extreme quickness great explosiveness legs drink, he's an excellent blocker. And he just wasn't used much as receiver one of the flaws Dwayne Askins ad that we talked about the last. Episode is sometimes he missed some of the opportunities to throw the ball deep where he had open receivers in terms of the leverage pre snap. And it was usually centered around Paris Campbell in the slot. But pairs Campbell can't get deep. He actually knows how to make the good Dr step one long step into the hard parade. Which is the hardest thing about route running for the more difficult timing rouse. So he may be inexperienced. But he's not raw. He has a good solid base a fundamental as a pass catcher as a route runner, and he someone very good after the catch. And I could see how you know. Maybe they decide that they they like his athletic ability. They wanna get creative with that. I don't think that's the best. All I don't think it's going to happen. But I'm trying to think of guys in that range. In addition to may be deebo Samuel would also kind of fit in that rage. But he's kinda I think depot Samuel can be a little bit for a Jimmy Smith type of play Jag. Guar receive them or a Sterling Sharpe type of player Rickaby a little more physical than you would expect. But he's extremely quick and fast win after the cash, and he's a guy that I've always joked runs that he can kill you with the single death blow with the shot on or thousand paper cuts running through and beating people the way that Odell Beckham junior. Did you know back, you know, when he was starring in your so Sam could also give you that special teams ability. So those are some guys at Mike fit that range of its allied range of possibilities. And and we'll go from there. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart. 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We answer your questions regarding the latest news and headlines of the world of professional finding find us on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. It's interesting because it just seems like, you know, it seems like as I look at this class. If the giants want to upgrade at wide receiver. It just seems like somewhere along the way. There's going to be value because it just seems like there's a there's a a fair amount of depth the fair amount of variety in types of of players, you know, pretty much all the way through this class. Yes. And you know guy who might creep up into that second round because he had a good throw day was JJ Sehgal Whiteside who six to twenty five dollars box out receiver who wins in the red zone. But also shown some pretty good route running skills, I'm a little concerned about his hands. I think that he catches the ball well in terms of catch rate, but like Cortlandt Sutton, the guy was a little concerned about this way too in played out Denver early. I was that. He doesn't have the greatest technique any fights the ball. But I agree with you. I think there are a number of players in his class who in the in the, you know, second late second day early early third or late third who really have an opportunity to evolve in the stars. And and. I'm looking forward to talking about some of them too. All right. So let's let's frame the next part of this a little bit differently and ask you to kind of put your your GM hat on here for a second. When we look at the giants on their current draft board, they go from thirty seven which is early in the second round to ninety five which I think is the last pick of the third round last or second to last pick of the third round. So there's a huge gap in there. But they have eight day three selections in one of the things that I expect is I expect them to whether it's late second early third. Whether it's, you know, fourth round picks, I would expect them to use some of those day three picks to to move up in in target. You know, a guy let's let's suppose that they've they've gone through. They've picked up a bunch of defensive guys that picked up an offensive tackle. Whatever maybe they picked up their quarterback. They haven't touched receiver or tight end yet. And you're sitting there early in the third round. Is there a guy that you can see maybe it's one of the guys that we've already talked about. Maybe it's a guy that that that we haven't mentioned yet say early early third round where you would bang the table and say if we've got to give up a couple of assets. Let's go get this this guy because he can come in and start for us and help our offense right away. Yeah. And I think we'll start with we'll start with guys who might drop, you know, the miles boykin Ricky Butler drop than I would be throwing the table up against the wall. If they weren't listening get fired probably mum. At that point. I also think you know, if the Keitel hairy dropped it would be interesting to consider consider that. But at tight end, I'd probably be bending the table for someone like Dawson knocks Dawson Knox is still there in the early third round. It's time to consider him seriously as that asset. If you believe that an Ingram can be that got or if you know that your draft board has valued below that. Because I think there are receivers in the who are gonna be available the fourth or fifth round who you really going to be able to get get some value out of. But the if there's a receiver. We haven't talked about that if I was really if if I look at his pro day look at what he has to offer. And I'm pretty intrigued by him. I think he has some drops occasionally, but I like one of seen of him, and he's proven an awful lot. I might. Lee personally, I'd probably say would beg the table for here. But I could see how team might and that's Jalen Hurd, Jalen Hurd of Baylor is a former five star running back around the time where he was the starter ahead of compel VIN Kamera and ahead of John Kelly at Tennessee, and he was around the same range that you know, he was he was in playing around the same time that there can was playing six six five two forty kind of sloppy feed the powerful could catch the ball extremely well showed some speed bursts. But he didn't really wanna be running back. You wanna be receiver? Tennessee didn't really want to be receiver. He ended up getting hurt. He ended the siding to move on and transferred to Baylor be receiver. There's a big kind of divorce fallout in the media between this and Tennessee's coaching staff was beyond they been kind of the they've been. Magnet for trouble. During that time. They weren't that. There was a loud bad stuff going on about that whole program. So but heard got the brunt of it like he was the bad guy. But all Endo is at hurt shut up went to Baylor. Put his head down and became a guy that we look at them on your like this guy looks like he's been playing wide receiver since high school and he runs good routes. You can see him do the technically sound things about talked about with you know, guy like MAs boykin, you can get a little bit better with that gathered the steps to hard breaks. But that's the thing that a lot of young receivers after learn of, but he's got the size. You could break bolt tackles the open field. He's a smart runner. He can catch the ball goal up win it. He's used more often Baylor in the slot. But he should transition to becoming a split end in the league. And again, you know, six five with it, you know, with that kind of quickness and good route running showing -bility too nippy late coverage. And final been zones. You could start about the slot and put Ingram outside. And so you kinda slowly feed him into the offense as a contributor in let him win where he he's comfortable and in the year or two he can wind up being that split end for you. And what's even cooler about him is that because he had the work on his foot work so much as a rout runner Baylor. Still use them as a short yardage running bag or occasional running back as a change of pace. Unlike gap plays trap and power toss. And he looked even better at Baylor as a runner, not production wise, but just purely from his footwork in decision making in quickness because he worked so hard on that it actually helped his game as a running back. So you could see this big old guy come in and kind of be a change of pace to saquon Barkley and suddenly you're looking at two five star former five star running backs one of the. Could occasionally use it up again to try to be multiple. You know, not only did you may be tight end. Or maybe yet? But you have that you also have heard who could be a split end for he could be imply put him at wing back because he's big enough. And if you wanted to add weight decide you wanted to make maybe a tight end, I don't think they would do that. I think he's too much potential as outside Seaver. But if they wanted to go that route, and it might be able to do that with him to his member did play to forty at one time, but Tennessee and that was when he was younger player. So this is a really intriguing prospect who I think that there might be a team or two that really likes. You could see how Scots might be on the table. It's really interesting. All right. So now, we have hit the the day three, you know, portion of the draft. And we've already mentioned we've mentioned a lot of names already and have to admit one of the things one of my favorite time wasting sort of activities is to is to go to the draft network or to go to fans speak, and and and you know, mess around with with the mock draft, simulators those two play. That's it's it's to be honest early in the process, you know, I'm not a person who studies guys the way that the way that you do in the way that that a lot of these guys that a lot of guys do to the point where they know everything about everybody, basically. But there's a point in the process where I'm actually using these simulators to to get to know some of the players ESP. 'specially draft network is kind of cool because it lets you pick up the bios on the players as well researched them, but the mice sort of long winded point here is when I do these seven round mock draft simulations for the giants one of the things that makes me crazy as I do these when I get to day three when I get to date to round four to round five even round six. I look at the board that I'm presented with and it's wide receiver wide receiver wed receiver wide receiver. Wed receive rag go down like twenty five names in nineteen or twenty of them are wide receiver. And I'm like, I don't wanna wide receiver right now. I took one already or I want to do that later. But the point being there's a lot of depth on day three. So what I really want you to do is kind of cherry pick a little bit and talk about some of your some of your favorite guys that could go later in the draft. Oh, absolutely. All right. So Jalen Hurd will probably will one of them. We already talked about a guy that that probably could be liked by scouts a guy by the name of Travis full out of Old Dominion, east six to two hundred fifteen pounds. He's a rugged rebounder. With some sudden. At the you know with this first step he's kind of a potential possession plus receiver with some deep nece some deep game to him. But he's will bit more of like a four five eight forty guy. So he's not gonna blow the top off of off of a defense. But he's a little bit more physical in rugged kinda Michael Crabtree. Aspiring type of player who who could be interesting there if they wanna go big slot. And and they think the guys I have on the outside are good. And they feel like they wanna roll that way. Little Jordan Humphry out of Texas. Who's also a former running back six four to ten has some of the best mitts in this class. And there are a lot of good guys in his class in terms of being able to make the catch kinda Marcus Colston type of player who can run, but he can run after the catch away that Colston couldn't you could probably use them out of the backfield occasionally, but he makes excellent adjustments to the football is not very fast. You know, Tyree Brady is an interesting guy or Emmanuel hall. We'll talk about to them that on wrap up the third guy after this. But Tyree Brady isn't very fast. He comes across four seven four. And that I don't know if that's really indicative is speed. I've seen him get through past guys in ways that seems a lot better that he has really must have really good quickness. He didn't we didn't get a chance to see that on in the metrics in terms of his his workouts. But he's very quick off the line runs. Good routes. He hasn't incredible concentration at the catch point make some really difficult catches. But he kind of in that room of like if AJ green was the top model on the board. You know, like he's the luxury model of this type of receiver and say Josh Reynolds of the Los Angeles Rams is kind of like the mid range model, you know, tiring. Brady's kind of like the compact model at the rental car place. But you might be able to eat might be able to upgraded enough that it could do. A lot of work for you. If you're looking for a classic split end. Who's just graceful can become really good deep ball specialist. Maybe expand his game and become something. More Emmanuel hall of Missouri's early graceful guy with four three nine speed kind of in that Justin hunter mode, though. 'cause once he drops the ball. He starts to drop more and drop more any loses concentration. And I think he has to continue to work harder to focus his game. A guide will probably fall day three. Because of an off field situation is pressed in Williams, and we talked about the AJ green model, if AJ greens the all pro model of in terms of ability, Preston Williams could turn out to be the starter model for that. Which is pretty darn good six four to eleven Scott four five speed is as quick enough. He has good enough acceleration. He's terrific after the cat. He wins the ball well near he could play. Flanker split any. He he actually runs good routes, and he's guy Colorado state, who's a former five star prospect of Tennessee saying program where Jalen Hurd, left and Williams has really I think Williams is one of the better prospects in this class. He's in my top ten on my board of but will probably drop because he had a domestic violence issue when or during his Tennessee career, and you know, obviously, the NFL every wanna look at it. If you wanna look at it, the cynical way, I'm more cynical side of things you look at the NFL has more of an optics PR issue about this than they do about really caring about it. If you look, you know, on the level of like, you know, in terms of how that goes now, I look at this way. I think everyone cares about domestic violence in in who has a good head on their shoulders. But at the same time, you know without getting too deep into it. I just say. That some businesses in America, don't, you know, don't have don't have a policy on it at all some some basically suspend people if there's a conviction some people would suspend base some companies with suspend based on a rest, there's a lot of Orion. So we tend to hold these hold the NFL to even higher standards and what our own corporations do. But with that said, you know that sensitivity in terms of the public is sometimes creates a need to drop players just based on the term. And when you look at Preston Williams what he did was wrong. Very clearly let me point that up. But from what I read in the police report, it was basically, he got an argument. He's a young kid got an arguments girlfriend girlfriend wanted to leave the apartment, and he blocked the doorway and tried to hold her from the doorway didn't hit her than pusher. Didn't do any bodily harm to her. Now, I'm not saying that holding someone back from the holding from there will being threatening on that level. Is not wrong. It's definitely wrong. He definitely deserves to be arrested. He definitely deserved to be punished. But it's it's different than say. There's a different degree of that say tyreek hill on strangling his pregnant girlfriend, you know, or Dede Westbrook kicking or strangling his pregnant girlfriend. You know, these are very difficult subject matters. But you know, if you wanna have a more in depth thought about this. I actually talked with a Serapis to works with people who you know, who have been perpetrators in these issues in domestic violence or assault in the past. And and I've had him give his takes on Myers p podcast, you know, about this. And how it relates to the NFL, but Williams has gone through counseling? His teammates said he was a sketchy guy at Colorado state when he arrived. He's become a much different guy since that time. They've seen him grow up a lot. If there's a. Team that want to giants feel like they wanna take a chance on the guy like that. Preston Williams would be that guide that might be worthwhile in the fourth round one. Last guy wanna mention, and I have a feeling that this is the guy to say that I I'm pretty sure from my sources that that the giants are very interested in this guy. And I'll just leave it at that. He is at Monmouth Monmouth, I don't know how to pronounce a month university. And that's that's Reggie White junior. Reggie White junior is about the dimensions of Marvin Jones of the Detroit Lions. He's about six two a little over two hundred pounds. He is extremely quick. He is fast enough. I mean you look at his game. And let me see can pull up his information here because he is he's an excellent young player that okay? He's runs a four four five forty. So he has the deep speed. You're looking for is a four point. Oh, seven twenty shuttle, which is very good. You know, nearly caliber in that in that range six seven seven three cone drill. And that is as good that's actually better than that's as good as miles boykin who was the top guy in that area. So he's quick he accelerates. Well, he's fast enough to get deep on you. And he wins the ball with grace winning the ball and tight coverage. Extremely well. And I've heard scout say that he's the best prospect ever plant, mama, and that's includes miles Austin played there. I think he can be that possession plus player who could either play flanker split in win. Contested catches be a red zone threat. When after the cash they liked to see him be a little bit more physical, and they like to see evidence of step up and be that big play guy. But I think he's going to get drafted late. And I would not be shocked at all the giants are looking at him. Look at you coming on the podcast and breaking some giants news look at that. Away something I sleep for a couple of weeks. So, and I and I can tell you I can't tell you that there's interest there. I I know I can't go into detail who in why? But I know that I know who was there. And I know what they were looking for. And I know that it was a very special case for them to be there. And you're talking about you're talking about like at at a local pro day on. Yes. And so I know that there were people there that that were very interested in him. And that you know, you wouldn't normally see some of those people there, and I'll just say that the, you know, the giants pick him I would not be surprised at all if they can get their hands on. Interesting stuff as always met. We always appreciate you coming on and break in these breaking these prospects down, and you know, now now you've set a new bar 'cause now you're coming on here. Breaking some news. Listen, I don't normally get this stuff. And I don't end when I do I don't know normally share it. But this is one where I can feel comfortable sharing this one just enough that that that's it. But I'm not normally the insider type guy with that. I just breakdown prospects just happen to know this one. All right. Hey, why don't you? You know, we did this last week. But or two go ahead in in, you know, let people know about your website and your draft guide again before I let you go. Sure, you know, you can find my draft guide. Mount Waldman dot com, and you get there's a tour of my draft guide the pre and post draft additions of that that you can look at from the past and the you can find my work at WWW dot Matt Waldman, R S, P dot com that provides links to my YouTube channel, the ours p film room and a lots of different analysis for myself and Mark Scofield as well Scott Bischoff, occasionally, some work from him and. And and then the dish into that. I've a podcast, and I found out my podcast broke the top one fifty in in sports and recreation recently, and that was and that's the ours p cast about while ours p tasks so you can kind of find my work at those three ranges, and you can find me at Twitter at Matt Waldman. All right. Thank you very much meant in. We will you know, when the giants draft Reggie junior. We're gonna have to give you a shout out. And you know, make sure that the world knows that that you had it. I. Okay. All right. Thanks. Thanks again. And we'll talk to you later. All right. 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"That indeed we understand when it comes to hiring. It's important to have a large talent pool the choose from but sometimes too many good options can be overwhelming. That's why he he doesn't just give you access to a large pool of job seekers. We also offer screener tools that let you instantly narrow down your search hone in on hiring with indeed experience indeed for yourself today and get a free sponsor job of great on your first posting and indeed dot com slash promo terms and conditions apply. It is time to get up with. Tom brady on the field on the books for three more years. We'll explain the one thing he's done against the least attention but has the most impact plus about cowboys. We've got to skeptics on our set to tell you why they think their ceiling as how far they can go this year as a team and how sweet it is the yankees freeing the brooms against boston. What does it mean for the rest of the season. That's the question jess. Mendoza has the answer all that more. Let's get add up with you starting right now good morning and it is a delight to be back and it is a light to see all of you are seeing here ryan is we're turning the t._v. You were right. Yes and i had turned on the t._v. I would've been awfully far away. Test is not as far away as iran. It's nice to just get off to israel for three days and look odd. Show is here for the first time nice to have you here all right. We're delighted that you have chosen to start this morning with us here and leads get into it right off the bat. We start with contract news. Tom brady he turned forty two on saturday and the patriots celebrate by finalizing a contract extension that will keep him under contract through the twenty twenty. One season shefty says the deal will <hes> brady twenty three million dollars this year which would leave him tied for the sixth highest salary amongst quarterbacks in the national football league. Let's get more on this. Let's go to allen park michigan. Where we are patriots support it might grease as the patriots will practice this with the lions today good morning. Mike and why is this particular contract extension sort of a unique situation for the pats in for brady well. Oh could morning greenie. It's actually historic. The patriots have never done a contract like this before. Let me explain. They gave tom brady an eight million dollar raise for this season and then they added two more years onto the deal but those years are actually leave void years. They're there for salary cap purposes. They actually don't exist. I it's very similar to what the saints did with drew brees back in two thousand sixteen when they signed him to a five-year extension but it was actually really a two year deal because it included three void years on the end of it. So what does this mean for the patriots and tom brady. They're going to be back at the negotiating table before the end of this two thousand nineteen league year because brady is essentially a free agent after this year with those two void years added onto his extension. Now that is actually very interesting devolvement opened one. I didn't see reported a lot. When the news came out well done meanwhile quickly the patriots. I'm told me a tourist stop before getting to michigan. What can you tell us about it. Well we know greenie that can't ohio is about two hundred miles away from detroit michigan. The patriots bill belichick decided to stop at the pro football all hall of fame in canton and that's where tom brady sort of reacquainted with a historic peace his draft card of course back in two thousand the one hundred ninety nine pick in the draft the six rounder. He said you never wanna forget where you came from. They stopped in canton before they got here. In allen park michigan for these joint practices imbalance spend any time with a sketch artist to start working on the bus. Now i mean you know you might as well get ahead. It is not just like i don't know i didn't ask them the courtesy laugh. If you give the host of the show it was funny. It wasn't that fun. I got r._c._a. Gotta show here. What do you make this and that was very interesting about these void years. Obviously obviously you add a little money. You create a little more salary. Cap space feels like a win. What did you take away from it. It's definitely a winning when you look at it that way and you hear about the eight million dollars. It added right into his contract. It was the right thing to do right. They were sitting there and they even thought to themselves. It's ridiculous that tom brady's only gonna make fifteen million dollars this year. When there's so much money being thrown around the quarterbacks who haven't done half of what he's done in this league now you also look at it the two years it also says we understand where you art in age right. We understand where you are your career and we will come back and revisit his later. This was supposed to be done. It had to be done. The pages went about it the right way see. I don't even look at the void us. Let's be frank. Tom brady's calling the shots. He's gonna play as longest tom. Brady wants to play same thing for fitzgerald on the other coast in arizona. Tom brady's due to lead your team to to back to back super bowl one of which you lose you still play great but the other one you win. He's going to play in new england as long as he wants to. And that's the way it should look. We're already an unprecedented. The president did territory here. He's forty two years old. No quarterback has ever accomplished anything close to what he's doing at this age. I'd also like to throw in there. I think that if you look at one of the things that has sustained the patriots in this unprecedented success they've had over two decades. It is the fact that brady has never been the highest paid quarterback. You're just a little pop up on the screen. They're about how many quarterbacks have made more money than he has in the last few years and that's been the case going all the way back to the beginning and the reality is the flexibility that is given bella chicken. The organization i think is is it sometimes underappreciated factor and how good they. I think this is something that we talked about because a lot of times you can't. You can't understand why a guy like ally manning has made so much more money than tom brady and somebody situations tom brady's had the luxury to not necessarily want more money or need more money and the other other thing that i think has been astonishing is. It's not like they have used that money to get him more weapons. There's never been other than randy moss and obviously grunk who got who's the guy that was drafted there. He hasn't debit taken this money going out and get and they haven't gone out and got julio jones there so it's been very weird or kinda strange that actually impressive to watch what's new england patriots when new ver- even with the space tom brady has given i'll say this brady makes a weapon a weapon. That's what it comes down to. They don't have odell. They don't have the jarvis landry julio jones but if you're a receiver for the new england patriots because of tom brady because of whose hands of balls in that's who that's why you become a weapon but i think green the nail on the head when you don't have to to pay your quarterback elite money that is top tier money then you have more luxury to do things elsewhere think about how the eagles with carson wentz. They weren't paying him a ton of money. Okay i'll give you another thing i'll give brady bunch of respect because we all understand that his wife makes a lot of money and that he has made a lot of money off the field but there's a certain degree by which a lot of guys measure measure the respect they received by the number and he has never made it about. That's how much you love me in this league. That's how you tell me how you feel about it. I don't care what you say into meetings. I don't care what goes around building. It's what that contract says in off season when you say you know what we love you this show the number that he seems to care about is the one of the number of rings that he has on his fingers. Are let's get to a team chasing them. Everyone's chasing them. Among those teams that cowboys who have several key contract situations to resolve themselves and it starts of course with that guys zeke elliot holding out two years left on his deal he'll make under four million dollars in cash value during this upcoming season amari cooper one year left at fourteen million but keeping him long term won't be chief after michael. Thomas set the receiver market with a five year. One hundred million dollar contract and there's dak prescott making backup quarterback money with a year left the two million dollars before hitting agency when he will be due for a significant raise. If there is no extension. I obviously missed the player that he is is but i know that he's he's getting better. I know that he's working on his game. He's getting he's in shape. <hes> he's gonna make sure that he comes back and he's back on this team is a better player than when he <hes> then before camp <hes> or before the spring and then yeah i mean he's a good friend obviously one out here but as business friendship is french seven businesses business <hes> you don't cross those so there's the quarterback talking about his star runner and both these guys are severely underpaid when you compare them to their peers in terms of average annual value zeke is the tenth highest. Hi is paid running. Back deck is the seventy eighth highest paid quarterback behind obviously a whole lot of backups there and so listen at some point. We have to assume they will get get. Those situations worked out. If those guys are on the field that will obviously be on the field. Physiology eventually is on the field. I wanna have a conversation about what you believe. The ceiling is for these dallas cowboys. The ceiling is what it always is going to be a little bit above average. There are going to be a team. That's exciting to watch on defense. Obviously they'll be able to run the ball but in the past half decade winner the dallas cowboys not been able to run the football. This is what this team is built around but when you look at what we've seen from a team being mediocre eighteen being averaged the dallas cowboys are the poster board for that the poster boys for that they're the team that we see each and every year with with the high expectations before the season and they always let you down why why is that it comes down to jason gary to our point. The cowboys had the league leading rusher before before zeke was at redrafted and demarco murray yet they won thirteen games with their ceiling but garrett to me is the problem when i say problem he's the limiting reacted. The buck stops here. You have a decent above average quarterback you having a leak running back. You have an elite wide receiver and you have to young studs linebacker with one of the best pass rushers in the game but you only they gave us ten wins last year. You gotta tell me why that is. It's not about the talent sooner or later. The coach has to find a way to get the best out of everybody on the well. They looked like an entirely different team once they acquired art amari cooper during this season i will say this. I disagree with you. Both i think the cowboys are as good as just about any team. I know you don't think the best team in their division winner of that division is the best team in the in the winter. That division is going to be the philadelphia eagles. They had the best quarterback they've shown that they have the best coach their retooling things on the defensive and now aside from amazon alshon jeffery you now have the sean jackson take the top off of momentum and louis riddick said that he thought that they were gonna have the m._v._p. Deleted incarcerate went right and i believe it. I believe he's going to be a quarterback that drives the ball down the field. He's going to be a quarterback with something to prove and this is the team that wins the n._f._c. East to the eagles are feast or they're going to be famine. Everything depends on carson wentz thirteen and three or they are six and ten of carson wentz they healthy. I agree with wholeheartedly. Nobody's touching the eagles but if he gets rattled adult if he gets hurt. I don't see why the cowboys can't take it with ten wins like they did lash. If the eagles win the division and the cowboys are something in the neighborhood of ten and six and don't make a deep he play are fun. We'll jason guarantee their coach he because jerry jones but let somebody else called. Get him out of there. You think houston even though i don't i don't i don't think he survives just getting to the the playoffs. No point jerry jones is going to take a stand and i believe that this is the year you have to have a year like you had when tony romo and dez bryant where the guys that you actually won the division it made it to the playoffs prediction if that happens if the cowboys wound up winning nine or ten games this year and don't make a deep playoff run lincoln riley becomes the richest man in america this this keep a very close eye on lincoln riley bank account because jerry jones will do anything and everything to get that guy too big d. We have a lot more football in the news this morning laura. Let's get up and go. We've again again greedy with jordy nelson eleven year n._f._l. Veteran has decided to call it a career. He'll be signing a one day contract with the packers to retire with the team that drafted him r._t. Is jordi already an underrated receiver. He's absolutely underrated listen. This isn't wes welker. This is danny amendola. This isn't any of the guys that you might try to compare them to. He was tall doc was fast. He was strong. He's the guy i still have nightmares. Seeing in the super bowl. He was absolutely amazing will done jordy nelson a great moment at the women's women's british open as twenty year old and nocco chaban knows thank. The birdie putt on eighteen to win the british open. It was her first time ever playing in a tournament outside out of japan so bruno finish eighteen under par to baseball. We go christian yelich back in front breaking the homerun tie with mike trout and cody bellinger that m._v._p. Race is really really tight. What do you think's gonna happen. Jess mendoza will yell win his second straight and ellen. V._p.'s more home runs and he did last year but watch out for cody bellinger. He is on his tail the yellow even having a better season than he did in his m._v._p. Season last year it's been fun to watch you forget about yellowstone's defense as well gold glove caliber twenty stolen bases unbelievable. Here's something you don't see every day. Tell marseille of the diamondbacks hit a line named dr in national center fielder harare par mitzvah catch martin would go all around the basis for an inside the park home run just an outfielder the sense to give you some qualms lonesome never dive unless you know absolutely that ball's gonna get knocked down or do. They got your back because that is exactly what can happen. Yes worst nightmare for outfielder. Got turn away from that. When another fan was hit by a foul ball yesterday as a liner off the bat of rangers willie calhoun struck a woman in the head she was taken to the hospital. It'll just what should major league baseball do about this constant. It's not a question anymore. Just get the netting out and every ballpark. It'll happen by next year but the fact that hasn't already already on every all thirty clubs is just ridiculous and this is going to keep happening. The yankees did complete the sweep of the red sox last night winning seven to four aaron judge edge and geo or shallow both homer the yankees scored all seven runs off david price just before we get to price what stood out from the yankees last night it was actually a judge. I sat in here with you laura on friday and pointed out how much he has struggled. We've talked about the injuries. They've needed aaron judge's bat and it came alive. Even aaron boone said this is a guy. That's going gonna get hot and we need them yet. Talk about a one eighty from a yankees pitching staff that allowed forty four runs in their previous series against the red sox this weekend yankees pitchers held boston austin to just twelve runs any one eighty opponent batting average everybody talking about the yankees should've gotten some more help in that pitching staff at the trade deadline. You'll think they need it then in here on friday. He's like no we're good. You did call the game last night. What did you see from price on the mound as we turn to the red sox side david price this year his his best pitch and honestly it's been throughout. His career has been his changeup. He's throwing it more. It's been more effective but since the break it has not and the yankees have always been his achilles heel but what i saw from him through nineteen changeups only got three swing and misses guy since the break. He's guys are hitting it. One hundred points higher look at where this pitch hitch runs into the barrel of so many yankees hitters when his change of going right guys. You're going to see this pitch run to the left but instead it leaks to the right. When david david price has his change of going he's gonna flip it here and you'll see it go more to the back me away from these barrels but instead coming into the bats. That was the pitch that was what's the difference guys. That's the swing and miss that he needs especially. We're talking to the yankees the bronx bombers if you get a pitch. That's going to go into their barrels. They will make you pay and they did it against price strange strange week and a half these two teams just having played each other in these sort of look and series and at one moment. It looked like oh here. Come the red sox. Everything is going to be fine now. The yankees bring the brooms on the backside of so we love you breakdown walston a little more next hour. Let's talk for a moment about the yankees and let's let you finish the thought that you had a moment ago. About how will it ultimately hurt them. They didn't make a move for more pitching at the deadline. They need the pitching. Will it hurt them. No the reason is luis severino tana's now. You're counting on guys who have been on the injured list us the entire season to come out and be the guys that you know they are but they're there and they need help. I get it. They had a great weekend but this is a team that if they want to win the world series and that's the end goal here. They wanna beat the houston astros. Are you kidding me with zengqi now and aaron sanchez they need help on their pitching staff and it starts with the guys that are on the yeah they were able to get this sweep but just the injury bug continues gleyber torres now part of this list correlated injury that took him to the hospital last night. What what do you think about how they're going to be able to do this with all the injuries that they've dealt with you know credit aaron boone who's been able to manage through and he even said before the game. He's like i've never seen anything like this in my life this isn't that was the grandson son player-manager. No one's been around the game more you look at the list. This is just a sample size and to your point torres has got hurt last night. Gio shell up fouling two balls off both his legs cringing on the ground but then they get guys like mike ford mike tuchman cameron mathison picking up. I mean that's what's been unbelievable is filling those holes as looking at that graphic had occurred to me. That might be one of the best teams in the list of injured. They might actually make a run at the wildcard but so what does all of that mean it's been a very difficult team to figure out all year because they don't have the starting pitching and they've been as injured as any time i can ever remember and yet they're still running away and hiding with everything greenie. They're still my pick to win. The world series and that's huge hot take in my opinion because the houston astros was on paper are a better team and i believe is the world series start today. The astro's beat them but this is a team. That's going to get better why you saw that list. Those guys come back. I mentioned severino matanzas in addition to that and i just feel like they're hungry. This is a team that got beat at home against the red sox and may wanna come back and win the world series as i think they will. I want to ask you a question and this might be something we save for a bigger picture topic at another time but i hosted michael cavs radio show right before it went on vacation and we look back at last season as far the value of starting pitching because this was right before the trade deadline and they were talking about what they would do and in the playoff games they played last year only one game. The yankees were involved in the post. Oh season did a starting pitcher. Get out of the fifth inning. Yes so this day and age does that matter the way the way. I grew up watching baseball thinking the team with a better starting rotation. There's gonna wind up here. Friday and said look severino comes back. I combine with him three innings. He goes three innings and now we get to the bullpen. I mean that's how you look right. I can get you to to the lineup. Ultimately matchup base to for these guys is going to be a better matchup with the opponents lineup. It's a different game for sure meanwhile you mentioned or shell. Let's take a look at that because she touched on it. Let's do this as a meanwhile. I'm planet earth. This was what we're gonna describes unfortunate at bats which way anyways you don't i. I like the one that was being thrown him but look at off his bat yes by the way he gets that one too so now he's limping around. Crazy is within the same at this back up right in the dugout and everyone's like. Are you kidding me those first of all of those you. We didn't want to get those a consecutive pitches second of all who's laughing these the football guys. I'm hearing what people laughing in my studio. This guy just fouled off his wait. What what are you stayed in bed. Have he doesn't have to tackle anybody okay. That's coming at you. Ninety plus miles an hour. It's a line balls off your legs. I get it you guys tackle and all that come on. That's not that's painful to. They very unfortunately in the game. You're doing all right. Let's give you something different to watch here and let's do a little bit of eye candy for it here. If we can show you a great defensive to play in our chose favorite sport. This is soccer man. City against liverpool got a ball bouncing towards the look. Come on wow. That's the disavowed definitely been the yoga. Oh you definitely been told my whole hamstring. That's an athlete no side. The flexibility ability in the air greenies care me. Otto is narrating from the sideline as i cried as we continue andrew luck out another week. Antonio brown's foot is bothering him. How concerned should we be about injuries to two of the n._f._l.'s biggest stars. Those are the questions since we've got. The answer and sam has people talking about texas. Football are the longhorns really back and better than ever on. We go get up on e._s._p._n. Get up is brought to you by geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen fifteen percent or more on car insurance huge half hour coming your way here on get up including in five minutes. Should there be legitimate concern about potential potential m._v._p. Is texas back and better than ever chose got. The answers and r._c. Breaks down the top five players in the national football league. He'll tell you what aaron donald has in common with thanksgiving all that anymore but first speaking of andrew lucked goes on vacation so this is sneaky gordo time here we go this gordon who is the first player to throw for forty five hundred passing yards in consecutive seasons first player to throw for forty five hundred yards and back to back years. That's the question question. The answer is next at indeed. We believe resume is a great way to see an overview of a candidate candidate but you're not hiring a resume. You're hiring a person that's why indeed offers tools that help bridge the gap between the candidate and the resume like skill tests which leads you actually see a candidate's abilities and action to make sure they're a good fit for the job see beyond the resume within deed experience d yourself today and get a free sponsor job of great on on your first posting at indeed dot com slash promo terms and conditions apply. I back in zero is on the microscope appear we go who was the first player in n._f._l. History to throw for forty five hundred yards in consecutive seasons green. Can you tell me down to a decade. Please like eighty nine hundred ninety. I'll give you the seventies oh i mean. I was gonna say dan marino but you just hit me with the set while you were half right. Let's move it along. The the answer is dan fouts. Oh dan he did it. I just whispered the answer in my ear. I didn't see the years fouts was a great quarterback back the air coryell chargers in the seventies and carried it over to the as no shot bro but oncho what you are is a perfect stand in for jalen because he always gets it wrong anyway all right. I talk about andrew luck who will miss at least another week of practice now to a left calf injury. He originally hurt the calf in april that caused him to miss o._t._a.'s and minicamp. Now lux's missed twenty six games since the start of two thousand fifteen because of variety of injuries mainly those of course having to do with his shoulder. He's only been able to make thirty thirty eight starts in that span fewer than a handful of quarterbacks who are now back ups and some of the names that we could include it'd be tyrod taylor blake bortles and ryan tannehill so i wanna do a couple of times and segments and i want to start with this. I wanna talk about the level of concern. You have right now for andrew logs health. I'm putting two minutes on the clock r._c. Go you have a high level right you had p._t._s._d. From the shoulder injury and not seeing him come back from that not seeing hill taking off a whole year so if you're colts fan if you're the coach organization you are definitely concerned the only thing that will make you feel better if the coast come out and say we're being cautious. We're trying to make sure the andrew luck is as healthy as he can possibly really be before calf injury to last this long. I'm definitely starting to think there's something stinks around. Indianapolis agree wholeheartedly. I'm hot on this topic greenie because a calf injury should should add most if you tear it completely which i did to my quad and barry kind of similar muscular injury. You're talking eight weeks at the most. We talking months two three four months. You have to be concerned furthermore. You have to be concerned because everybody's on the national landscape in the n._b._a. Finals what a calf injury can produce in an achilles injury so whether it's conscious or not this is a huge level of concern for is there some degree to which we can say this represents a really good step for andrew luck to at least this regard he this was a guy who stood in who took unnecessary hit two held onto the ball sometimes when he had a bad offensive line and maybe try to rush himself back from certain circumstances and that now oh he recognizes his health is the one factor and his team super bowl. Don't necessarily think that he has a choice of this. I think that the training staff and the team understands how important or knee is as well and they allowed him to do some of those things before but if you look at andrew luck at the beginning of last season it took some for him to get back in the groove and i know it was a shoulder injury but he wasn't the andrew luck. We were used to seeing so some quarterbacks me this time and i'm with acho when it's an injury like this that you should be back from a little bit sooner or or a lot sooner. You have to be concerned. Gotta be concerned because he's mature to your point greenie so he's not rushing himself back but they go nowhere without the colts. The colts go as far as like take yeah there is there are a handful of teams in the national football league who are completely dependent as good as they are on one player and this is one of them after the lock the difference between a possible super bowl team and one they probably wouldn't even make the playoffs next topic and it's about antonio brown. He began training camp for the raiders on the non football injury list due to what sources tell e._s._p._n. Were sore feet. He visited a foot specialist this weekend. Sources tell adam schefter this is not expected to be a long-term injury but brown has missed a significant figured him out of training camp and i did see he posted a picture of his feet on instagram and it wasn't a pretty picture i i. It's a picture of the. I just just one minute. No i know but the pictures and coming and sizes i of course i follow my one minute on the clock. That's the picture see okay. What what what does that slave feet for sure minute on the clock. You know when you look at what's going on with antonio brown. Here's here's my big concern. I've played with him. I know how important practices to them. I know how important it is to work. So when i hear something like sore feet has kept antonio brown out out of practice i am worried this is a guy who was built on getting in and out of cuts coming out of his brakes explosively and how much this team is depending on antonio brown to change what this offense offense look like and what derek carr looked like this is a bigger deal to me than just being out a couple of practice. It's not a huge. The biggest issue was the fact that he's not building up the chemistry right now in preseason and in training camp but when you're talking about the regular season doesn't start for almost probably a month to today. He have enough time to get back. You just gotta get building also to question his friends but here's one question is if i shoot you a picture of my feet or even posted in the bottom of my feet. Look like that and you don't either de the immediate or texts me or if his that urgent call me for me to pull down the u._s. Coup listen. I got one word foia pedicure. I knew we need a little work done here. I'm not sure anyway meanwhile on planet earth speaking of getting work done. Did you see what baker mayfield did. It in indians wins game. How how do we describe this okay. This is not just chugging a beer he he he seems to punctured the can with his teeth matches the mustache i don't need shotgun the beer and then he just got everybody fired up. This is the personality in a lindores jersey of baker mayfield by the way the indians offense caught what fire scoring five runs against the angels to three run homer by door so obviously everything baker mayfield touches turns to gold and as a result thirty seven thousand thousand people showed up to watch the brown scrimmage so the expectations are as high there as they have been. I'm going to say in my lifetime including back when they were good in the eighties. He's so. Let's put two minutes on the clock with this as well. Do you believe the browns are going to live up to the hype. I do think this is the first time the browns have to deal with with expectations and everybody is expecting this team to implode when things get bad but i believe they have chemistry. I believe that baker mayfield with the mustache or without the mustache the type of leader that this team needs now. Here's the only thing that scares me. It's not about what happens in the locker room if he doesn't get the rock or georgia's doesn't get the rock or nick showbiz run. If baker plays it's what happens when they start being themselves outside of the locker room when baker has to answer a question about odeal. How does odell reply when it's joke oh cool when he's not getting the ball because of all these people around him. How does this team handled the way. The outside media or outside perception of them is thrust on the eighteen. Three is the number you need to remember three prime time games in the first five games of the regular season. The browns are emotional team. Emotional leader emotional city city emotional star players. If they start off well. They're going to go. I can see ten wins. I can see eleven wins but if you lose and greenie if you lose on primetime television when you got your fresh rush haircut and everybody is watching. That's the devastating loss. Those are the losses that have ripple effects though the losses what you walked into the locker room and you starting to looks our guys yeah. That's the problem not gotcha well here. Here's the thing first off. You should have a fresh haircut for every game right. It doesn't matter if it's primetime right now secondly. I think it's about the way you lose these guys go out the play world and it's the game where they're just beat by better team or there's some things that they can tweet. That's different than going out there and really just losing right not having your your principles play the way that you expect them to play. I think it's about the way they lose these games whether primetime a nut in starting the season because this is a team with a quarterback who's been underdog all right who came in last season wasn't starting and he understands how to bring a team back from not playing well early on in the season. We'll see i mean because you've got so many stars. They're in and such high profiles of odell and land joko and baker mayfield and his moustache and all the other things. We're gonna take a little deeper dive into this because they're going to try and do something that not only haven't they done join in cleveland in a long time but that may be no n._f._l. Team has ever done. We'll do more of that as we go but right now. Let's look back at the best of the weekend. These are some things you might have vest over the weekend that you can't miss. Let's take a look at saturday. The pro football hall of fame welcoming eight new members but is this ed reed or is this his bus ryan clark best bust ever. It actually is like super handsome bush. The hair is perfect. They're here's perfect. This needs to be placed in a different place than the bus. We're gonna be hall of fame so good to baseball baseball. Aaron sanchez could not have asked for better astros debut on saturday. He got to be a part of a combined. No hitter sanchez pitched six scoreless innings did most took the work in four pitchers total combine to know the mariners in the nine. Nothing victory watch for the astros jess. Mendoza said she's still picking the yankees but the stroz are good nelson. Cruz sir likes to get his home runs at bunches just over a week. After cruise hit three home runs against the white sox he had another three home run game on saturday against the royals dell's crews now has thirty home runs on the season quite the night and how about vince velazquez made pictures everywhere proud top of the fourteenth inning the phillies were out what a position players and were forced to put alaska's in left field with the game at three runner on second ball and who's paying a brave tries to score velazquez watch out for the arm arm perfect one hopper dome play to get him out white sox are going to win that one four to three pitchers or create athletes guys okay and check this e._s._p._n. A. and a b. ocho. It's back for the third year with even wackier events from around the world lawnmower racing cherry pit spitting the acrobatic pizza trials and the live world cornhole earn hole championship just some of the events you'll see e._s._p._n. The ocho all day wednesday on e._s._p._n. Two and the e._s._p._n. App coming up on the top flight five n._f._l. Players according to our ryan clark's currently in the league why his list is dominated at the top by defense. We'll be right back later. The yeah we are less than twenty days away from the start of the college football season and many would argue that college football's better when programs texas are at the top or at least near it so the question is will we be saying saying hook them horns with more gusto. This season scrapers sam ex-exits foot long. Were okay but all in really bad. If you happen to catch last year's sugar bowl then you answer that question with a resounding yes no doubt there was a different demeanor with which they played in those guys out competed out physical does not up but what constitutes being truly back. Is it beating big king oklahoma. They push it around oklahoma right now. The long runs did that once in two thousand eighteen against kyle marie team but ultimately fell short in the rematch batch conference titles. Maybe the only way to reassert your dominant in today's college football is to climb all the way to the playoff. Hey this season's national championship. Game is in new orleans. The exact site of texas's two thousand nineteen success. Let's not get ahead anniversary so long defense lost eight starters and quarterbacks melander without leading receiver jordan humphry as well as several key offensive lineman. This has a chance to show they've solidified championship caliber debt in austin today's game. Don't just check boxes. Don't just run plays play gang situation time down and distance all of that play. Why is the game today remember in two thousand sixteen when l._s._u.'s zeroed in on tom vermin as their head coach only to lose him to texas we we win championships and together we can and will solidify our spot among the college football. This guy remembers and he'll wanna show why he was the right choice in baton rouge. We'll have a really good idea of just how back herman's texas team is september seven we they welcome l._s._u. To twenty eight eighteen with the longhorns first ten win season since two thousand nine when they were thirteen in one under mack brown and now they seek consecutive ten win seasons for the first time since a record nine straight seasons from a one to nine manual a a thing or two about the success at texas in the success that they are capable of in austin. You spend a lotta time around this team so i'm going to pose this question to you is texas back. That's the question i think first and foremost defined back. You know laura when you pull out your phone you type in your g._p._s. You hit start necess- starting ruth it means you know where you're going. Texas assist knows where the going but they're not back yet five and seven seven and six ten and four. They know exactly how to get there and tom. Herman is a person to get them there but to have to get two three four five consecutive ten win seasons i think before you're back but they're on the way yeah. Some people have talked about their quarterback. Sam etlinger is maybe being a sneaky heisman contender. His numbers were probably better than he got credit for last season when you think about ellen burr and what they can do losing as we mentioned so many on the defensive side. Do you think they are a team that we should legitimately be considering for the college football playoff because that might really be the way that man can go crazy that man semi etlinger but that's the only only chance sam etlinger colin johnson at receiver and the running back chianti ingram may have to play well but it all starts and stops with sam etlinger. They lost too much on on defense for them to be that good unless etlinger. Is that do okay. We talked about that game week to and you've got your texas ties. We've got one ryan clark here. Who's got got his l._s._u. Ties texan l._s._u. Face off we too and when you look at all the matches this season that one's truly pivotal and early on in the college football season could end up factoring into the college football playoff matchup. Everybody's looking forward. Do here's the thing last time texas on s._c._c. opponent. They smack them in the mouth now. They gave him network now. George said they weren't excited but handles l._s. Do business like they did georgia. It could be seen that's if though because because that's a big if texas beating georgia was a letdown for the georgia teen half the even play him right. It's about winning championships and winning national championships and what's gonna happen week. Two is else early season win that collective on the national landscape so you just know the future. Oh you know you have to notice. L._s._u.'s going to beat texas. No-one future. That's believing in what you study believing in what you see in austin tailing. Quarterback is a great place that people like the visit anyway. Here's awesome. It's a lovely land great points it is. I actually think that that win for texas over georgia was a lot more about texas being the more physical team on that day and kirby smart even said that himself aim or data-free laura get up. We take a closer look at ohio. State worthy urban meyer era is over a new day has done. We'll get into that tomorrow laura on get up greenie. We have thirty one days until the kickoff of the national football league season and last week the n._f._l. Released its top one hundred players. I years list as voted by the players themselves and aaron donald was voted. The best player followed by the forty year old drew brees and then chicago's khalil mack. You see the numbers there patrick sigma homes came in at four todd gurley rounded out the list at number five and it made us think it's a good opportunity to give ryan clark a chance to do a fundamentalist because we like him standing over here there. You never know what might wind up happening and so today's fundamentalist are your top five players in the national football league right now. That was actually really close. I'm going to start at number. I five with julio jones. I believe that he's the best wide receiver in the league because everything you love about big tall physical receivers julio jones does us and then everything you love about the small fast quick inside and out great guys. Julio does that as well. He has no holes in his games. They were on them a little bit lash you because he didn't score touchdowns early finished with eight touchdowns in the season over fourteen hundred yards. One hundred team catches. Julio jones is a playmaker and he said he might miss around on and go for three thousand. Ice cube messed awhile and got a triple double number four. We're gonna go with aaron rodgers listen. I know they say aaron. Rodgers had a down year. Aaron rodgers is hard to evan. Rogers changes place. So what you're down here is that you threw two interceptions twenty five touchdowns <unk> over four thousand yards when that's value when you're hurt running around with one leg your own and you could still do that and now people are doubting you every rogers. This is poised to have a big year. There's a new coach there in the name of the head coach of the green bay packers is aaron rodgers number three. We got khalil mack. Listen khalil mack goes to chicago right and has almost as many sex. Everybody in oakland has and jon gruden says it's hard to find a pass rusher but you had the the best pass rusher in the league and he went there and he wounded listen. Khalil mack is only overshadowed by some guy. We may see later on his list. He was instant pressure for the chicago kabul bears. He was an instant game changer for the chicago bears and just his presence. All into field makes this a different team. There are not many people you could say that about doc in the n._f._l. And football number two is patrick. My homie patrick mahomes listen lewis riddick said a couple of years ago that this guy was going to be. I do and he was right. I believe them and then when i saw it happen on the field last year it was amazing. Fifty touchdowns left hand throws. Now we see that kept throwing the ball behind on the back door. No look passes like he is steve next. This dude is unbelievable. He would nip his pocket. He makes this team a contender every every time he is on the field and this year will be no different the only personnel we better than patrick mahomes. This year was patrick mahomes last year and what yeah because you know when i get to do list the number one team is didn't messed up. My wife and i put my wife's out the number. One team is going to be the rent. It is aaron donald. Oh you know why because aaron donald is the michael jordan of football the gap between him and the next do that plays his position is so huge. It's it's unbelievable. Think about this aaron. Donald can get you into divorce. He'll get you don't get broken up with because if all lady senior to the store for thanksgiving and say you no what in the center of my table i'ma have aaron donald. That's what i want. A jew go to the store and the lady behind the counter says we don't have it aaron donald. You can get a <hes> jones. You can't get a sheldon richardson c. We'll leave you brook. Don't go home with that now. If you say he went to julio and they say oh all we have is a de'andre andrei dale. Your wife was still let you stay in the house. You bring home anything other than aaron donald for thanksgiving and it was supposed to be in the senate all your table thanksgiving tassell green. You do the rest of that extraordinarily. That was the analogy that we were making earlier round of applause for ryan ryan clark please first of the season. That's extraordinarily well. Done are see the first and it will not be the last of those and the analogy is a pretty good one. Even though i have some quarrel with the list all right there's nowhere to go from that but to bump. Let's remind everyone that sportscenter comes your way tonight. We'll talk about that later. We'll also talk about draymond green. His new deal means a a lot for the future of the golden state. Warriors jalen rose's here. We will talk about that and more when he joins us. Ryan clark is coming down. He's got a couple of things to bring home for dinner tonight. We'll we'll see how that goes see if he can pick up a wide receiver and it's offensive tackle on his way back to the house.

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Combine Rumors We Aren't Buying, Franchise Tag Frenzy

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Combine Rumors We Aren't Buying, Franchise Tag Frenzy

"The around the NFL podcast. Trump's out so much content. Welcome to another addition of the around the NFL podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal in a room filled with some heroes, Mark Cecil and Chris Wesseling? It's not the same as different puts up, Greg. I thought about like should I just like you just go off the top of the totally different start. You know, just like blow up the entire machine after six straight years since Dan hands. This is not here today. But you know, it's like only one episode that you quelled the anarchist in you. Yeah. That's usually what I want to do is just blow things up, but Dan's busy. Dan has his family in town. And as the intro said, we're pumping out a lot of content. We got three shows this week Monday Wednesday Friday, we got the Twitter show on Wednesday next week. We've got an insane amount of video show. So, you know, Dan's gotta get ready for that. And the rest of us were foraging on here. I I'm not ever. It's not clear to me what aspects of Dan's family is coming his parents, which I believe it to be or is it Dan's hidden secret family that he usually differences. If you got a few drinks in them. It's not the in laws. I don't know. I'm just saying there's all there's multiple ways. Could go with a Dan feeling vacation. And he'll never listen to this. I haven't even spoken to you guys since I Indianapolis, I guess Mark. And text. I mean marks burning the midnight oil. It was in the office on Sunday that there was a scheduling tick in my own mind, having forgotten something that was due tomorrow that is megaton longer esque assignment. And I'm just I'm impressed. I mean, you're out there. I mean, it's not impressive that I forgot about it now. And what did you what have you been up to with did some work around the house fixed up, my office Lakisha helped me, of course? And then. The head of ribcage issue. So I went and got that check yesterday now. Yeah. It's it's a little little cartilage issue in my ribs of making sleeping and living difficult aches, you don't wanna spend a Sunday urgent care now. Set from stretching exercise I'd imagine. Yes, exactly. What it way too much exercise? I'm sure you were just locked in though to watching our friend Daniel, Jeremiah move, the sticks and the NFL scouting combine weekend. But you know, in case we missed anything at all later in this show. We have our our other friend wrote a world's Josh Norris. That's good because I did not watch a single how NFL combine. You know, what it does have in a specially with DJ in there with rich is like, I don't like watching golf at all. It is not something that I do. But occasionally like on a Sunday if it's in the background, and it's a hushed. Yeah. Broadcast. The combine has that same sort of hushed field to where it's very relaxing. It's great to have on in the background, my kids kind of like watching it and they pretend to do the drills, and you just like hope sort of that by us, Moses. Some of this information coming at you seeps in so I had it on. Plus I noticed when like make Mike Mayock was in the booth. What that vibe was kind of like, I could I fell a little bit of like a Drew Bledsoe two thousand one vibe like he was looking at DJ and being like, I'm not getting this job back. Oh, there's definitely dissension there. It's an event that many of my casual football fan friends love to watch. It's not an event that I ever need to see a second on television for me personally. Well, that's why we have Josh. And he's going to head L it a segment that tells us, it's combine takeaways. We don't have a strong grasp on but Josh Norris does. So he can help us. We also have an interlude we're going to call it a new thing. We're trying out where we're each going to talk about one sporting event that we've been to in person for exactly one minute with the backing music of our choice behind it. I like it. I mean, I feel like this could be this could be a segment here doesn't have to be a memorable sporting event. It could be anything you just like you ever have one of those long meals where it's like they I mean, this is like a fancy fancy thing but along meal where like in the middle of it. They almost like drop a little pallet cleanser in the middle to just kind of like, refresh you and get you ready on for the rest of it. That's what that's what this segment is the role of the second. All right. Let's the rose. Let's not waste any more time Ken Brown sitting in for air to impose eat today. She's under the weather Kent. Let's do a little news. We go out secure Costea. Traumatic million dollars over there. Yes. That was Smith ragging on some poor wide. I reject quarterback tyrod Jackson. That's right quarterback. That said he was throwing bullets to the receivers when he should just be leading them in those drills. He wasn't happy about it. Actually, confronted him. He went there during the broadcast answer the Tyree Jackson while he was throwing that's amazing. I mean, that's that's why I love Steve Smith whether now or before like he's going to say what he thinks they talked about him being put into the booth like once deejays yanked out as a general manager Steve Smith, and he just said, no, I don't wanna do that every like burn every bridge within a year or two, but it'd be fantastic to watch. Let's start our news with Antonio Brown. Where it seems like we're starting the news quite a bit these days. Ian Rapoport our NFL network insider reported Monday that the cardinals raiders and Broncos were the teams that were most intrigued by Antonio Brown. And the Steelers have a level of confidence that. They will be able to trade Brown before March seventeenth when a two point five million dollars roster bonus is in Markelle you buying it. Well, because I think it's always would have been the the unlit more unlikely scenario that the Steelers just can't find a way to trade maybe a bit of a headache. But one of the most talented receivers of our lifetime like something someone somewhere is gonna think we can take whatever baggage comes with Antonio Brown and make a trade work. I think it just depends. You know, the raiders to me have a lot of ammunition with those second two first rounders after the number four pick. When I look at this situation. It seems to make sense. Trade-wise only for a desperate general manager trying to straddle the line between building and contending. I don't think you want them on a builder rebuilder where he his mind is up. He wants to play for a Super Bowl. And I don't think you want him somebody with a comfortable GM who already thinks he has a Super Bowl contender. Because then why why upset the locker room or upset what you're doing bringing in Tony around? Awesome. Right. But you don't know what you're getting. You're getting a guy who is flying off the handle for two months straight is not willing to look in the eye and say I made a mistake. He's not willing to do any that when Randy moss went to New England that brilliance Happel because he had been humping hit been humbled by the Oakland years without the Oakland years that would never happen. Antonio Brown is trying to do this without the Oakland years. What about the though any of those three fit into year? I think the Broncos do John Elway is a desperate general manager trying to straddle that line between building and contending. You get the feeling John. John elway. Yeah. They're going for. A championship above what it's like. But something tells me he would just be happy with like nine and nine or ten win season where the Broncos get back in the playoffs and lose a game. Like, that's why you trade for Joe flacco Joe flacco is not a guy that you're getting to win a Super Bowl. There was quickly report in Denver that tried to shoot this down. So I don't really know what to believe about these Antonio Brown reports markets and the titans have been thrown in the mix to the cardinals. And raiders though like that that smells fun. The raiders the raiders have three first round picks. And they're going to have some quarterback. They're gonna either have Derek Carr or maybe a top shelf young quarterback. Or who knows who they'll have like that is a move of like, we're sick of losing. We want to get back into it right away. I mean, Peter King through the Redskins in there as well. Think about this though, if you do have Arizona suddenly Antonio Brown and David Johnson and potentially Cuyler Murray. If it's not Josh Rosen or Josh Rosen and cliff kings. That to me is spicy. I don't hate that. I'm not I'm not gonna their offense. Do anything without an offensive line though. No. But I mean, here's the thing. Like like, the he's not going. I don't think they want to trade him inside the AFC north. That's pretty clear they don't want to train them to New England. So how many teams fit the fit the fit the call sheet for him? Right. Who really fits and for the offense like convince offense of line is more of a function of the coaching staff and then the quarterback than anything in today's NFL because you could pick twenty teams in the cardinals are among the worst be picked twenty teams where the offense of line is a problem. I guess they're hoping that whatever Kingsbury is cooking up schematically is somehow going to cover up whatever their offense of line issues are and that's a GM to he's the one making the call. That's worried got to be worried about his job. So maybe Antonio Brown has get get quick get right right away type agai speaking of the cardinals, Larry FitzGerald who spent several years catching passes from the leg. Of John Skelton, max hall, Richard Bartell, John Navarre, and Kevin Cobb aches said aby doesn't realize how good he's had it with Big Ben. He's right. Yes. I agree that part of it is absolutely correct. So we've talked a lot about Antonio Brown. This off season. We've talked a lot about Nick foles this off season. And I wanted to throw this into the news that less Bowen Philadelphian quieter was one of many over the weekend. That said the Jaguars are expected to sign Nick foles. He said at the strongest Rappaport, rap sheet mentioned it might garafolo mentioned it somehow everyone who is in Indianapolis and talking to people came away saying every this combination foles in the Jaguars that everyone thinks it's going to happen. Yeah. It is going to happen. Nothing's getting in the way of not sure we needed to report to tell us what we already expected to happen. But I report says exactly what we said supposed just Incheon Jaguars are expected to sign him. But it's just inching you, closer and closer. And I talked to someone I think it's different because. It's sourced that they're saying a source in you can connect the dots with foale's because it's coming from the Philadelphia papers that like, okay, everyone's been speculating about this. But actually there was some pushback inject Ville, there wasn't anywhere really hard reporting west, and this now everyone's this kind of joining us is that forty expected to sign these hard report he said, he's he's expected to sign what we've been saying on this. We we sourced to. I'm the source. I expect him to I'm gonna put an say Nick foles and his people are expecting design there. That's a little different rap sheets said he would not rule out the dolphins. And there are significant interest in foles around the league. I mean, that's because number one until its final. Why not allow someone else to come in with a whole different deal the immediate loser. And not for me because I'm not one of these like NFC's people. But the television the schedule makers the primetime matchups that would have had potentially like New York Giants placed Nick foles. Yes, I Fili that games that we've talked about the last couple of weeks that would have been front and center on the time. I'm not giving up on the giants or even the raiders or someone surprising getting given up on the giants with Eli seems like giant still see I wanna that. Like chaos happens and crazy things happen next week next week the week. This isn't the week. I mean, the giants are they make all the decisions based on what will happen to the future ally. Manning statutes Bill to I don't know what's going to happen. All right west was under. Well, that item of news. Can I? Do in. Not hard new can I interest you in another piece of expected news, which is that the chiefs are going to tag the Ford. But here's the unexpected part from Rappaport again that they will listen to offers for d for that they are kind of putting him on the train block. What do we think? So this made me think that with Steve Spag Noah switch into a four three defense. Yeah. They announced. Yeah. Right. Visual e Ford has been great coming off the edge as outside linebacker, right? And a lotta times skillset transfers to defensive end in a four three. But it's not exactly the same. No. Maybe they don't think that it's going to be quite the terror of the edge if he's playing defensive. I mean, he had twelve sacks and twenty sixteen but three of his other seasons have two four and two sack totals. And he's only graded positively this past season on PF, and he had a couple years where he was not even on the radar. So long term commitment season two years ago that twenty sixteen but it's I wondering if maybe the idea of huge long-term financial commitment with a scheme change is put it all together and see what you can get fly. I thought he is a perfect candidate for tag, even before they were changing schemes because of what you just said. I mean, he's had basically two years where he looked like bust one year in two thousand sixteen where he looked like an all pro like he did this year for about six or seven games that was where he filled up that season. Then he got hurt and. And was playing through and didn't really. So he has not been consistent at all. And now the fact that they're listening to the offers makes me think there's a good chance. He's going to be traded because they it makes me think they've decided, well, we'll pay him this year, but he's probably never gonna sign long-term with us with the scheme chain. So we might as well listen to see if we can get a second round pick for him. And I would think in this market where there's so much money available some team, we'll we'll give up a decent pick for deformed sign him to a big contract. I think so too. And then you have to they also talked about moving Justin, Houston, potentially. Well, this was a in in many ways, not a good defense last year their pass rush was affected. Like what what are we replacing these people with agree point because juice Houston is supposed to get traded or released over the next week? We think that'll happen will have to wait and see on Ford. But while we're talking tags. Let's let's do a little tag round up here on Monday. We got news of three tags. Evian cloudy gonna be tagged. Donovan Smith of the bucks, they're left tackle tagged and then DeMarcus Lawrence, no surprise. They're not going to get a deal done before the tag deadline, which is Tuesday, and he will be tagged as well. Any thoughts? Gentlemen. Well, the Lawrence and cloudy tags are no brainers and were expected to happen. Donovan Smith that name has been bandied about for last few weeks in Tampa Bay is likely getting the tag in this case, I think the franchise tag actually helps the player he's gonna get paid more than he's worth right? He's gonna make fifteen or sixteen million dollars. He's one of those guys that PF thinks is terrible. And that his own team those guys that Chris whistling watches get right over by speed rushers. Almost every game. I was going to mention he's one of those rare one of those guys that seems to hate like that he's literally one of the worst starters. And that the team is always saying, oh, yeah. We love Donovan Smith. Great. Going to you know, he's terrific. But that when you watch the games, it seems like Jameis Winston is always under pressure from people who are going up against Ottoman Smith. So I don't know what the bucks are seen that. We're not is it just also because if you remove him where he goes somewhere else, you're even that farther up the creek trying to find a left tackle. And they're just not I get it. But like last year when I was doing the cuts list. I was like I wanted to put Donald Smith on it because he was going to get that fifth year option, and it seems like he's not very good at professional football. I think, but I don't know they do on some level still trust like NFL coaching staff. They must know something more that. He's okay. Yeah. I think when you look at what their offense is done the way they've moved the ball, especially between the twenties. I think a lot of things put a high value on a guy who is decent enough that he won't say Taj, the offense single hang in the general manager essentially is bullet proof in Tampa Bay. Right. I mean, it can't be for much longer. I don't know. They did just hire a new coach. I think they Jason lights. Gotta win sooner than later. I was thinking with DeMarcus Lawrence tag today. That's no surprise. But what great twelve months? He said. I went back. I do some journal work sometimes dance, not the only insider on this podcast. And I wish I could bring up. I mean, he's the only like real insider like in terms of media, don't even really. But. Voice memos that I have on my phone saved DeMarcus Lawrence from March thirteenth last year. I went back and listen to it because I thought I remembered he said something which I never did a brain about. And he said they I'm fine plan under the tag. But I'm going to be more expensive next year than I am this year. So they would be served well by signing me to contract this summer. He had no rancor about it. He said I'm going to be more expensive next year than I am right now. I promise you that. And you know, what he is way more expensive now than he was a year ago. Not just because he had a great year. But because they're a tire fire in that front line with Randy Gregory suspended. David Irving now is suspended a middle disappointed that when you pull out your phone and showed us your messages, he pointed to the Marcus Lawrence. I thought for sure we were getting like DeMarcus Lawrence cold you personally to clear somehow. And instead, it's like you tape something on TV. I mean, it's interesting that here he was here. He was here. He was here in the building. Of those like, hey, you wanna go talk to the markets Lawrence for six minutes. So you like a sandwich, and I'm like, yes, you did personally speak to. Yeah. Okay. So so do you ever just play those like late at night to yourself when you can't sleep DeMarcus Lawrence interview segments that you've kept on your phone that's much like when I can't sleep. But just like if I really wanna treat myself like light a candle put music on some I think like Amoco essential oils. Here's your husband talking to a pro football. I think Greg sleeps. Well, I I am a little disturbed when I was looking for the other day went back into lead it everything. The only things I kept. We're DeMarcus Lawrence a couple of things from this last combine having to lead yet. And then an epic performance by Brassey at your house. Chris wesley. I can't lose that. I don't know what that is. But for some reason, I decided to record her publish it. I have a series of brassy videos from several nights at my house Brassey, of course is the social coordinator. Of our entire news operation tie would say, she's recovering from some some sort of hangover. I'm sure the Super Bowl then right into combine for her were from what I gather. There are a lot of high points, but potentially you're paying the price. But I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep those blackmail. It's gonna be okay. Well, that is the relationship that you and she have. So I think that's good. I mean, like we I was having dinner at the combine with the friend and an Tiffany Blackman, our friend on the network sat down with us and then suddenly some tequila shots just sent over. And it's like, you don't even have to guess who it's from. It's from Shona. I would I would have gone Reggie Bush. But no, he wasn't either one. He wasn't there. All right. Let's move on eagles their team. That's like in the science of contracts. Lotta lotta contract and salary cap issues. These days they brought back Brandon Graham on a huge deal three years forty million. I think twenty plus. The first couple years all guaranteed. They also signed guard Isaac c Malo today and two three year deal. That was a bit of a surprise. And there's a report that Michael Bennett is on the trade bloc. Mark you can take it any direction. You want Graham, see Malo Bennett. It would be surprising. If you went see Malo but zero I mean, I'm not going see them all I think that the benef- thing is just the natural revert to giving thirteen million a year to Graham, who's thirty one Bennett's thirty three Bennett costs another seven million this year. I don't is there a team in worse cap. Hell right now than the eagles. I believe they have the least amount of cash the moment. So they gotta make moves. They have a lot of things. These just have a million things going on. And they're pretty good at being flexible. But you're right. They are about as tight to the cap and having make tough choices any team in the league, parental Graham. Takes one of the better pass rushers off the market. But I think for me the what's the prizes me is. Overall, the coaching changes in scheme changes in Philadelphia for a guy who's never had a double digit sack season. He's a great pass rusher. But most of it is coming on pressure. Not saks. I'm just surprised that he's gonna end up playing entire career with the eagles. Well, you have to be a bad ass to get that third huge contract to get the he signed when he signed that first five year deal. I believe it was with the eagles at the end of his rookie contract. People are like, oh, really you think Brandon Graham is that good that you're gonna give them a five year fifty five million dollars under he made it to the end that like never happens in the NFL. So they evaluated him. Well, and you're right. It's kind of a score for the pressure is almost as valuable as sacks and hits kind of brigade. And I think that brigade I'm just saying, I know that's more value. Now, they're very analytic heavy type of organization, and I think they think he's a bad ass in a guy that kind of like Everson Griffen is very similar in my mind in Minnesota. Just the kind of career is Edwards like national. I'm not that well known but the team that has them thinks he's super and he's also etched into like Philadelphia lower for the strip sack that helped win the Super Bowl and entering. Was it was not right. That's that's a good point. And seems like a great guy like very well known in the community and the locker room and all that sort of stuff or the guy we're going to have on later. Josh Norris from rota world has often said one of his biggest truisms disruption is production show. That's a catchphrase. I mean, that's how you step on a lot of people at the road. World office has become one of the the real big stars. I mean, nor using Norris has gotten to where he is without a little bloodless coup. Probably like some without Sally way showdown with you know, Evan Silva, which would not be an easy take. We saw the big fish, by the way in Indianapolis. Did you know this Mark he'd he's he actually message me soon? After and said sorry that you were not there. I did not go out the final night, we saw the big fish at Saint elmo's the famous they cast that every sports writer talks about and people were blown away. Dan, was just like I didn't wasn't really ready for the size in the stature that Silva's bring into the table. I mean Silva's like so it was like Jason Peters or something when you're over Kevin patrons Bill west. You've you've for a long time knocked this different. That is still this is this is like an NFL left tackle size Petra is in fine shape. And always has been I never would have looked to him as sort of like a paragon of male body. Type. It's always shape. Let's be real. It's always annoyed you a little bit. How much credit Pacha got furs body and even back in the day? You almost were annoyed that he got the credit over like he's like I have. That body now I'd never thought that I credit for my body. I never thought that at all. Now how you feel about it? Now, it's time for some credit. I didn't feel like my body's in great shape up. All right. We are almost to some Combi. Rumors we aren't buying another little like mini segue throwing in here. But finally, Jamie Collins expected to be cut or traded soon. How would you remember the Jamie Collins era marks very underwhelming? And I thought it was they got him for a relatively low acceptable draft pick. And then I think in one of these sort of confirming your own move turn around and overpaid him, but they had a ton of cap space, and they almost were at that place. They needed to reach the cap floor, and they had no names on their defense. And I thought they probably felt like it was the first step towards building that side of the ball in. There have been the thing that I kind of remember most are these sort of whispering jabs at him where you can't tell exactly where it's coming from the people aren't happy with the effort. They aren't. Quite happy with the effort on game day or not on game day. And I don't feel like he fits into where they're going, and they definitely need need help linebacker. But he's I don't think they're going to re up with him. That would be surprising to me. This is one of those. I usually at this point would expect a guy to get traded Michael Bennet. He's six million this year. I think they could find someone to lease to pick. Swap for that. Why not he's still pretty good? But Jamie Collins making ten million. No, I don't think anyone wants to deal with that. I think he's I mean, it was the patriots who were listed as a team that we're open tonight actually trading form lasts. Right. And I think they would probably take Jamie Collins back, but why why start at a twenty two million dollar two year contract. I just don't think that's sort of like value at this point finally an idea Wes here combine rumors. He's not buying. What is the combine? Rumor that's grind in your ears. Started. This wasn't really a rumor someone ask hurt Warner. What he would give up for Josh Rosen. Third round pick. And then Peter King interviewed another NFL executive who said cardinal shouldn't expect to get more than a third round pick for him. And I think this is insane. I think that's crazy for many reasons. Not least of which is the cardinals have already paid sixty five percent of what his rookie deal will be for four years. They've already paid most of it with he's only gonna count two million against your cap every year for the next three years. And you're telling me that teams like the giants Redskins and dolphins who need quarterbacks are saying. Or even the patriots who need a successor successor for Tom Brady or saying, no, I won't go above the ninety something picking the draft for Josh Rosen. I just don't believe that for a second. I mean, it depends what the team is who's drafting him with everyone knowing he's just going to be a long-term backup. Like, you're drafting him to be a starter. If it's the Redskins who would make some sense, you can't you can't possibly tell me that you're going to get Aaron to accept nothing more than the third round pick for that. When you when he is going to be your plug and play. Low cost starter and Peter King. You talked to I think to front office guys and those guys don't want to give up third round pick. That's fine. It only takes one team. You know what I mean? I don't I don't get that. At all. Like, they're also depends what front offices those. We'll also hear all the time GM's who sign guys in free agency. And I think Dante Fowler is is a good case study for this year. Well, we had him ranked really high coming out of college. You always hear this about first round picks and get two free agency and aren't playing well, we really loved his college tape and we loved him. And that's like what there's not a bunch of teams out there that didn't love Josh Rosen's college tape and wouldn't give it up. I would I would I would remain a patriots fan. If if they go pick up Josh roses. This me thinking about checking out as soon as Bella chicken brainier goal. You know that Brady I'll I'll stick. I'll stick it out for Bella check. But I think I might retire with Bill. I mean, how could you top that? It's just like just like you just live through the. Best. Why even bother that's because I thought the definition of a fan is to jump ship the minute things, I won't I won't just over soldier you sunshine. Patriot. What are you doing you? You're you gave up on the on the Bengals I did not give up on them. They gave up on me. That's a here's the thing. I just think mentally it's possible that they just become like one of all the other teams. But it's just like not the same. It is crazy where we even were two weeks ago with this. Josh Rosen story where it was like largely unbelievable that this would even happen. And now it just seems like a foregone conclusion that the cardinals have enough. I mean, that's changed even since we last talked on Thursday. So since then, okay, Kim Jones said the expectation at this point around the league is that the cardinals will take. That's what everyone thinks don't believe this. I don't believe the cardinals have finished do Dylan. That's what made up their mind a bunch of people like DJ and all these people are saying, that's what everyone thinks. But no one really knows. That's. Just like that's not really news necessarily. It's just what everyone thinks the cardinals and then possibly the raiders are thinking as well people. There was a quote that gruden's not much of a poker player in that. It's kind of obvious how much they like Tyler Murray as well. But I think before you know, he two weeks ago he's being mocked to go to the Redskins at fifteen or falling out of the top twenty and stuff. Now, it's like no this guy like every single year a couple of quarterbacks gonna go way higher than people thought initially and Carla Murray has multiple NFL coaches superintendent. Yeah. And I'm with US, by the way, I don't buy that for a second Rosen's twenty one twenty two now. I mean, he came into the league young his tape is not nearly as bad as everyone thinks I promise you, he's he did more as a rookie. Then guys like, you know, golfer Trubisky did in similar situation. I saw enough where I was like, okay. I saw some good things. I'm still on the Josh Rosen trained. So a lot of people who went. Broke trying to guess how good of a gambler other people are. I'm not that confident in anybody's ability to read a gambling. Damn what makes you an expert on reading John gruden's, not you, but anyone what makes you an expert in reading John Gruden gambling. And what makes you think that you're good enough to read it, right? I think he's not just already broken you. I think literal professional gamblers like are probably good at that skill. But I don't think that's who are talking about. Right. I think there are a few people on earth who are really good at. But you're not a fan of the combine west and the combine essentially is like one massive hot stove league session where whispers and rumors and generated news reports are what this part of the football season's. I think it makes for great quote for someone to say John gruden's a bad poker player. I just don't have any confidence in that person's ability to read Jon Gruden poker with the the year ago. We thought the entire raiders offense was going run Turnley through Amari Cooper. So he's built he has an ability to spin yarns that we fall for. That's a great point that you know, who's a great poker player. We found out this week. John Gonzalez calling wolf's husband. And was one so most professional poker player. Seems to have you every time he was on the early early auspices of kind of like the poker professionalism going around. That's like can't you just imagine him with his hat pulled down low at a at a poker table, making people's money man man of many talents. That was a low point in sports television win like every third sports never had like eight Gebran is sitting around a table playing poker for four hours. It was aided every minute. It was a mania. And it was exciting. It was it was a interesting time. I'm not at Greg's. You know, I never I never went was into poker? But when rota world was started way back in the day when we were building a brick by brick this is even pre Wesseling. It was all it was like thirty people all in about three rooms minimum twenty four of them were betting on poker to an insane degree and most of them seem to be making money from including the people who own the this company people were like losing their minds just playing. Online poker all day every day and like stealing money from some poor schlub in Nebraska who signed on for this. It was it was the heyday it was a dark time. And I believe having fun though. I like the spirit of it. I wasn't. I didn't do poker. I think it's accurate that I would never would have moved to Taibbi island. If not for the poker craze that swept the nation between poker? And at the same time when MA is becoming really big and all of my softball. Buddies. Just wanted to sit around watching 'em and playing poker. I got to leave this city. Yeah. There is nothing here. I mean, there are some road. There are some like Christmas Christmas where there were rumors where the rota world was having a little trouble paying the payroll. So as far as I'm concerned poker might a save. This sounds like a toxic vote. You might say might have been the only way that they were still making money paying us. And now look at it today. Is there any other combine rumors that was pretty much mind? So the only one that I thought was absurd just because everyone attached to the Redskins is fighting for. Job right now. And I like McCoy the person I named my son call after Cole McCoy the day that he was essentially replaced by Brandon Weeden being drafted in the first round. But the idea that they're talking of Colt McCoy as the starter to me, that's all that says if all other plans don't work than we have it on paper that were excited about Cole McCoy that cannot honestly be where this team is coming from holistically to fix a quarterback situation. It's just hey, we said it if this is what we wind up with we told you all along we were excited about this. That's to me is just not a rumor, it's just like a it's good. It's good housekeeping. I do believe that Jay Gruden thinks more highly of Colt McCoy than anyone else in the NFL thinks of McCoy. But I also think you cannot you cannot have followed this guy's career and believe that he's gonna stay healthy for more than two or three games broken leg. He's always coming off with something because he always gets hurt. I take them. But he's like he's been in the perfect position as. A backup you hope to use a game of year. Most. I there's like no doubt to me that he's gonna be J gruden's quarterback coach on the twenty twenty six what team is Jay Granville, red spangles. Yeah. That would be the Bengals or or the offense of cornet. He's getting paid Cole McCoy, by the way, three point six million dollars. So that kind of three point three million dollars that shows what they think of I think he's a backup. They think he's the best backup in the NFL or one of the best. That's what. And I think that's fair that any fits Jay Gruden roll out. But then but don't don't conflict it into. He's suddenly our starter. Okay. So that's the news and lot of chunky content. There a lot of a lot to digest, frankly. And before we get to some more real like, nuts and bolts meet in potato football. We're just gonna have a little bit of pout cleanser and something that really doesn't have a name to it. But it's just one minute. Of talking about a memorable sporting event that we witnessed with the back end music of our choice. And and since this was my DEA, just all I can start it. Can't you ready? Let's do it. I haven't heard this. That's nice. All right. I'm gonna go nine hundred eighty eight Foxboro stadium Sullivan stadium. They would call it. Doug Flutie did England Patriots gets the ball in the red zone plate just fell down about four points to a rookie. Chris Chandler of the Indianapolis Colts. Doug, Flutie comes in gosh, who who was replacing a total total bomb. He comes in off the bench to replace Gus Ramsey totem. Leads them to victory on a bootleg the moment. Everyone in Boston was waiting for flew to become the patriots head coach, and that place celebrated like it was a Super Bowl. And I always remember that game. It's one of the only patriots games I've ever been to as a kid. We didn't go off and that seemingly meaningless winds to get to two and three in law season can mean so much to fans in the NFL because that game meant so much to me we ate off that game for about five years. I love them use music choice that minute snuck up quickly. But that's good to know. Yeah. It was good. But. Like, thanks, Tom. Tom rosenthal. Not a huge football guy. More more baseball basketball. But we we loved I loved football and brought me to that. And it's like any way I'm going over my minute here. So sometimes it has to be unpacked further. All right, Mark. Let's go next. All right. So I have seen Michael Jordan play live. I've been to multiple Super Bowl guy's Super Bowls with you guys, which I mean, honestly, those are incredible moments when I really was thinking about one sporting event that changed my life. When I was in college in nineteen Ninety-three I had to sort of. Humorous roundish guide that live next door to me who was like trying to graduate early, but he needed to pass this fencing class he was fencing. And so it was a fencing final where we were gonna. I was gonna watch him in this tournament. The final was turnament and you had to come in like top top up to get a good grade. Otherwise, you're trouble. We went out to eat lunch. And he got on this long wandering story about this girl. He liked on the third floor this unintentionally unimpressive girl, and I was trying to talk about the ledge. But hearing only two seconds. He went to the he went to the fencing class late in the teachers like you're out you get an f you can't be late said, you know, what forget the F. I'll take the, but I'm going to do the tournament and heat knocked out this girl in the first round blew up some long haired during the second round got to the finals and loss. But she basically said, you know, what I love the effort, you get a B minus. So he saved his great. And to me that was one of the things where you could just mope and leave and wander who lesson I'm doing it. I'm fighting this tournament he destroyed these people lessened. This is why I'm glad I left. It wide. Open didn't have to be the greatest sporting event ever win. It's just something memorable level back from the brink. Nobody could have predicted you going to go down that avenue now. No, well, you you gave me a heads up yesterday. So I thought long and hard on a Sunday. No one no one's fencing coming. All right. Wes, we're going back to your app. Same years you Greg nineteen Eighty-eight the reds have a pitching prospect frustrating but talented six five to forty. He looked like a combination of Ralph mouth from the happy days, and Frankenstein. He had red wavy hair. It was receding and he was an ugly. Dude, Pete Rose at nicknamed him the true creature. We just the creature is kids we're at this game because it's the clip kid glove game in Cincinnati the one game year that all the little leaguers get to go to this guy is one pitch away from a perfect game in the ninth inning two outs. Two strikes. Wallace Johnson of the Montreal Expos serves a soft liner into left field breaks up the perfect game in rock rains hit. A two run Homer now. Ron Robinson the creature doesn't even get the finish the game. John Franko has come in for the save Robinson gets traded two years later, two months before the reds win their last World Series that they've ever won. So this song is supposed to be some take up on shattered dreams, Johnny. Okay. Johnny h jazz. The one hit wonder shattered dreams nine hundred eighty eight for the creature. You guys did a much better job than I did. I thought they were all that was that minute. Is that thing may quickly. What was your kind of musical inspiration? Mark just because I loved it. And it was will. I know that our like our libraries a wildcard, but I sort of wanted like medieval into like gallons like a sword fight type thing. I think you didn't ice job can't no I thought it was really it was like fire in me up. I mean, I blew it was Tom Ramsey, by the way, shattered dreams. Tom Ramsey was the quarterback who was the replacement for Steve Grogan. I mean what you couldn't make Flutie the backup. He was a third stringer. Gimme a break whenever you like swords or sorts fights. It's just a lot of metallic clanging. And I figured the medieval stuff worked a little nutty beautiful. Some interesting stories, I think I think we I mean, it doesn't need to be a sporting could be one minute on anything as it happens in may of eighty eight while that game was going on shattered. Dreams was climbing the US. Wow. Qismat also Qismat Josh Norris. He's been watching the combine for how many days is it been probably about ninety six hours straight because that's just like what he does. They have. They have podcast literally every day during the combine at rota world. He's pumping out content. The big fish is now kind of taking it easy during the combine he's making Josh do all the work. Breaking news. We got a little breaking news. At another franchise tag to the mix. Multiple national reporters are reporting that Frank Clark getting the franchise tag from the Seattle Seahawks. Okay. Well, peak Carol over and over and over said he is not leaving the building. Basically all those guys on our top one to one of the top that we thought we're gonna get tagged have Tom Pella CEO and Peter Schrager have confirmed expected to use the franchise. So Landon Collins to me as the only real wild card right now that we don't know which way it's going to go at this point. I'd be very surprised trae flowers did get the tech even though I would support it and think it's a good move. It seems like no one believes that's going to happen. So Landon Collins seems to be kind of the one guy everyone's waiting for. We'll find that out later in the week. But before waiting any longer, I gave him the big preamble. Let's get the judge Moore's. Josh what's going on, man? I'm doing great. We're on. You are on with the around the NFL podcast. I think we're just going to jump right into it. I don't need to give the flowery preamble any longer. I already talked you up enough. How you've stepped over so many people at rota world to get to the position that you're in and now trying to push Evan Silva side. I admire the hustle. Hopefully guys, this doesn't turn into something. Like, my parents, call me at nine thirty pm asked me how to work there, a remote control for the television talk. I thought testing with you. What does that mean that they're going to try to listen to this podcast? I don't I don't quite file. No, no, as they don't understand, you know, updated modern. Oh, and we don't and you're saying as simpleton don't understand what's going on with the test. Now, you're pretty much right? I mean, the title of this segment is combine takeaways. We don't have a strong grasp on Josh Nora stunts, your with with Chris Wesseling and Mark Cecil as well. Josh. Hey, Josh, whatever trio I was just telling all of our listeners that disruption equals production. Is that a judge Norris original? It is I it was much Debbie uncloudy article back in the day back when you know, he was getting knocked for his sacks. And I'm sure you guys talk about that all the time. How sexually aren't the Indo be all, but we. We're talking about Brandon Brandon Graham's new deal that he's a disruption equals production guy. They were go and back at South Carolina clowney like he was the only one getting four yards in the backfield. The quarterback could just move around and avoid his his lines the quarterback. So that's where it's Russian equals production. Wow. It's great to get the etymology here. Very the creator himself. Yeah. I don't know what you think we're going to talk about here. Josh because I did ask you. Hey, is there any names? You wanna you wanna talk about before the show, and then you sent me like a four part. Breakdown of why the the measurements that you use superior to the ones that are often talked about, and frankly it went over my head. I just kind of wanted to hear like well at the combine or not like pretend like you're speaking to total simpleton, I just wanna know like oh as well. Pretend like Rashawn Gerry. Like, what do you think about Rashawn, Gary? Aren't you a little worried he didn't produce it all after watching? There's only a handful of times in my life. I'll be able to talk to the hero. So I I would try to put my best step forward. My best full word, and and do my best in this regard. So okay. Well, you're off to a great start. Can I ask about some specific? I I think the best way to start this conversation, but I kind of take control here. Greg. As to kind of explain why in my opinion, the come by matters. Like why that's the matter. Okay. Because back in before like twenty fifteen I didn't think it mattered at all. But because it's kind of how the combine is is broadcast and some ways where for four days, it's you know, forty yard dashes and their position drills. Right. So we all kind of equate athleticism to a forty yard dash when really there's six or seven other tests that can be factored into someone's f- at profile, right? And then combine that with weight because there's a major difference, and you know, one hundred eighty four pound receiver running a four four five versus two hundred twenty five receiver running a four four five. Right, right. I'm kinda gives you a composite score. And that composite score allows you to compare across decades and across players at the same position as well. So who like who stuck out? Who is like towards the top of the draft, for instance, to use your example, actually, decay Metcalf. Everyone was talking about his performances weekend. But then I saw like a no about how his three cone drill was actually worse than Tom. Brady's three cone drill that here is the most athletic amazing freak you've ever seen. But actually in this in this measurement. He was worse than two thousand Tom Brady. So how what do you? How do you put that all together? What's your take away from other? Yeah. And let me first say that at least for me evalu-, like watching games is the most important piece of evaluation. But if we can just like add tools toolbox to hopefully, improve valuations hit on players at multiple days of the draft. That's the only goal here with PK Metcalf is interesting because you mentioned it like his forty was outstanding his jumps were amazing forty and a half inch Vert over eleven foot for all jump at two hundred twenty eight pounds. But then like his. Cohn was in the fifth percentile short- shorter was in like third percentile if we can go back and kind of look at players that were somewhat similar in. That regard a Stephen hill. Pops out a Greg Childs pops out I'm not necessarily going to Kevin white in that regard. But you go back and look at old miss. It was a somewhat similar offense. Kevin white ran back at West Virginia. Whereas he was locked into one side of the field. Everything was run on that kind of linear plane straight lines outside break outs off of that. And so it's not that type of offense where you see him run all the routes to everything across the formation lineup in different areas of the field. And so that would give you pause, but obviously as a little bit I mean, but he has huge muscles. So can we just sort of wipe all this away and just civil draft him like thirteen wasn't child tour, both patellar tendons. Yeah. I do. I do think it is important to note here, though, that like testing can also help you determine if what you saw in games is actually something that actually, okay. Because I mean, I don't know about y'all, but my eyes lighter me at points like going back to Jarvis Jones, for example. Actually. Yeah. We we know that Jarvis Jones led the SEC facts during his final year, Georgia. I mean, he was an outstanding player. They're right. Former Steelers first round pick. There we go and actually when he went through his athletic testing, Jarvis Jones tested like the worst first round pick of all time. Okay. Since it's been tracked like in the bottom, tenth percentile. Okay. And as we have known and seen service Jones have very long career. So just because the production was there part of that in especially those edge rusher defensive lineman like to me, that's where f autism is most significant, right? Like, it's of the true one on one match ups on the NFL Plainfield, and so at the very least simplest form wouldn't f-. Whether it could vantage give you a step up on your opponent. And Jarvis Jones was even average in. That regard averages fine. He was well below average. And in many ways staying away from non NFL caliber, athletes, it's how we should use testing. Let me ask you the flip side of this. So guys like Montas sweat who just have one of the best combines ever for a defensive end slash edge rusher. And respond Gary who had very good combine both are being sort of criticized for not being quite as good on the field or for having game tape. I know sweat. I believe was ranked in the eighties by PF. Where would where would these guys fall for you like do you have faith in them? Yes. And my bias again as I mentioned towards edge rushers interior defensive linemen with athleticism. I think maybe the best example in previous years was the no hunter. And I think part of it kind of comes down to the type of coaching. They get once they reach the NFL. Hunter was an Absolute Auto pass rusher in college LSU, who's a great run defender when he goes, and it's one of the best athletes Clarisa draft in the third round and has become one of the best edge rushers in the league, in my opinion. Do I think that Sean Gary Montas sweat have that potential? Sure, it big part of that is obviously the system and situation that they land in but with sweat. He someone that can get up the field in a hurry. I mean that matches accessories I two or three steps are are outstanding. And when you know when you say, those heavy footed off tackles, it can be fairly easy to run pass them. Now does he have that been my von Miller? No. But again, if I'm trying to invest in a I. Round edge rusher or first round injured you vitamin the Goethe's get after the quarterback match up. Yeah. I absolutely loved them to have a superior in these cases, the ninetieth ninety four th percentile of profile. Is there like can. I just saved a quarterbacks for a second. Because you're really don't. I'm not able to do much more at the combine like hopefully, see the quarterbacks for a couple of seconds. The rest of it is white Hayes. And then I catch up with it later. But when it comes to outside of the Kylo Murray is there a quarterback. That's caught your eye that you feel like is going to be someone that could surprise everyone. Or is that not the case, which is fine. Also, well, as we know like if a quarterback taken outside of round one, there's really very little hope for them in general. I mean, it's true. Yeah. I mean, it's not you can point to various little absolutely true. Yeah. I mean exception rather than the rule that's fair. But there's a caption approves the rules, plenty of decent second thirds out there. I mean, they're out really like there have been throughout history. Russell Wilson current. I'm counting. Like Andy Dalton to me is a draft hit. If you got a if you've got a guy who starts that many games in the second round or cabinet for that. Bengals fan. But yeah, you know, what I'm saying though, like those guys matter and those those aren't those weren't first round picks. But I hear you especially in today's NFL doesn't seem to happen to write kind of Garoppolo. If you if you wanna stay in those situations, right? And like don't want to improve off of them right now with that said, I will go to someone that is not going to be taken in the first round. And I'll go to eastern stick out of North Dakota state. We all know that that's a system that Carson Wentz came out of and eastern Randy exact same one. So if you go great name went, and yeah, right. Should be hockey player named after a baseball bat. Is they go. And if you have watched wins back in his college days, you saw everything was under center. A lot of things that are shotgun all play action moving out of structure instead of structure east and stick to do all that. Now, he did not have a good east west shrine week. But to me like stick is someone look if there's like a Taylor heineke out there as a backup quarterback in the league. If like Alex Pani is a backup quarterback league. It makes. That someone like, yeah. Right eastern stickshift easily backup quarterback and leading a lot of fun to go and watch those YouTube clips if you want I like it I'm all over the east and stick. Scenario. I'm gonna track that seventy that's the name of Mark's Nexen finally Stanley Morgan junior, you know, candy live up to the name that was the name of like my fantasy football team for years and years. It was just like Stanley Morgan. So like candy live up to that. What are your thoughts? Is is this the wide receiver out of Nebraska? That's right. That's right. His his dad is one of the great speedsters patriot's history. All right, Greg. I knowing what I don't know. And I'm just going to tell you I know very little about standing morte didn't make. Homework. I can make a big eighty thousand even very good athlete. Underhand thirds damning mortgage. There's a player I really want to know about. I have a buddy who goes by the name spice rack who is a big college football fan, and you know, fancies himself as a bit of a dress draft expert himself and during the season he told me that I am going to fall in love with little Jordan Humphry, Texas. He said he's just a big play maker this dude ran a four seven five at the combine, please tell me why my friend talked him up so much and is he in NFL wide receiver. Yeah. I've no idea. He didn't fall even with that four seven five you didn't fall into that. Like, non NFL caliber athlete territory. But if we're talking about players, you could she should get excited about it. Six four over two hundred pounds. He's certainly not the top of that list in this group like kind of massive wide receivers. There are a lot of fun instead of wasting your time and watching little John Humphrey. Or whatever his name is Jordan, which I think is a great name. He's not. I mean, Michael Jordan in Spicer ex defense. He is standing on the table for Dwayne Haskins. Not that he's the only person in the world that's doing that right now. But it is is convinced Hassans is going to be like the next or one of the next great of your time with Mr. Jordan. I would watch came Butler out of Iowa leaf. This is a Superfund player. Like you look at big wide receivers six five two hundred and twenty pounds. And like naturally think you think that you can do out Sean Jeffrey type stuff right just or at least Baldwin catches. Right. But what ki- Butler does he shows you elements of small game as well. Like, you turn that I will game and in like a fourth down scenario. He wants he runs a whip out along the sideline creates instant seperation like getting low his brakes creating that space. And that's just not something you see out of receivers out of a size. We're gonna hold discussion about him and drops. But like that's an overage discussion as well. But yeah, definitely go in watching you're likely. See I'm sorry. Josh for throwing you that Stanley Morgan curveball here. But otherwise, I think you knocked it out of the park. I think if people did happen to just like miss the previous four days and thirty two hours of coverage. We had on NFL. I think the last fifteen minutes probably made it up for you. I mean, I think we've covered covered it. We have ever if I can just plug my own podcast. I already did. Josh don't you worry about it? Well, I'll have the fuel full combine recap on there. If you want to you know, if we've missed anything lasted match, which you know might not have happened. No grind in six days in a row with podcast anyone here know about that. What I wanted you on. Josh does an awesome job with with the really kind of cavalcade of stars that you have run through that show. Josh smart. He's kind of the main one, and then the rest just rotate, so everyone knows who's the most employees. He's. Sun, and they're the plan. Right. And so different guys come on different days. And all that. And it is really good rota world football podcast. They started it. Too late, but they've made up for ground. I know you were pushing for it for years before they let you start it. That's the only reason why I'm saying there's no money in podcasting. Right. Except for us. We're just drowning in it. Yeah. Drowning in all right? Thanks, josh. Thank you. All right. So that was Josh. And before we go, we do have one last item of breaking news. We got three items of bringing that's what west. Ahead on six. Well, first of all this better be real the falcons in nounce that they are franchise tagging, Grady, Grady, defensive tackle. Yep. Adam Schefter has been told that CJ Moseley will not be franchise tag by the Baltimore Ravens. And rap sheet is reporting that Landon Collins is not expected to draw the franchise tag from the giants. Wow. I. It we we forecast that before anyone. The Landon Collins news chain west got another one grab sheets. The wording is the giants are viewed as unlikely. Okay. Well, we got twenty four hours. So at this point, he's he's probably not getting the tag. He's going to get very close to the top of our rankings Grady Jarrett. That's no surprise. He was ranked number three player overall. So that is no surprise the top one hundred list in it's a wonderful thing. But then it's like immediately burned to a crisp like the only name value products on the entire thing or held by their own teams. No, I mean. Yeah. You know, most of them are gonna go, but we're going to be on your, right? The top is now going to be lady on bell. Earl Thomas tree flowers. Foles? Landon Collins Collins, I mean, we've had much worse years at the top put it that way a year where it was like Maliki Jackson, and then like collect assembly or something one that our timing of the release and updates is suspect. That maybe we should wait until after the franchise tags and before we do this. Now people wanna know they wanna start thinking it's all about the page. They're getting more. I mean, right. You're saying for the. In for the absent the page views. Yeah. Like the top ten guys on your list every year or generally the top two guys. Right. Well, it's a good discussion and CJ I had reboot the entire project and give it to to other people. Mark Moseley Moseley interesting. He's the one that I think they really wanna keep them. And it's a rare case, I think they if I had to guess, I bet they still will find a way to keep them. Even though they're not going to tag them. They just don't want to start the discussions at fifteen million a year. Right. I don't blame him for it inside linebacker. Maybe the Browns of steel I don't know why just feels thought and they just kills a guy who's just going to come in and improve the culture and make your opponent in the end to their season with an interception. So. Help them out. It all comes back around on Wednesday. We will be back. We have a Twitter show early this week. I believe it's Aaron early unless unless we're pre-tape in it is airing at ten thirty Pacific one thirty eastern time. And then we are taping the podcast after that. We will also be back with the podcast Friday morning. Dan will be back on Wednesday. For cecil. The quiet storm Chris Wesseling. Mailman? That's it can't Brown. Josh north. Evan Silva, everyone. We'll see a Wednesday.

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'Boys and Girl - Offseason Storylines; Dez Bryant Talks Comeback, Cowboys, Dak, Motivation

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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'Boys and Girl - Offseason Storylines; Dez Bryant Talks Comeback, Cowboys, Dak, Motivation

"Hey guys I'm Shane Bacon. And I wanNA tell you about a new podcast called rip with Maxim and Shame Bacon. One guy that has probably hit a three hundred fifty. Dr Considers himself an athlete mostly because of his unreal. Papa shot abilities and has in fact started to show off. Signs of a Tricep for me is our own Max home of PGA tour winter and fan favourite online's maxi myself turn out new episodes every week to give a fan of unique look at golf and all that comes with it from someone that's been workweeks on tracks. We all dream to play grinded out with the best in the world. Listen and follow. Get a grip with Maxima and Shane. Bacon on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Right now hello boys and girls welcome in to the boys and girl. Podcast with cowboys. Nfl Network reporter Jayne Slater and NFL network producer. Bobby Bell Cowboys community with the inside scoop on the Dallas Cowboys now coming straight to you from the lone star state. Here's Jane and Bobby. Gang will so excited to be back Bobby Ann I reset recharged. We know that it's been about six weeks since we last recorded a podcast for your course that after the McCarthy higher quite frankly we needed a little bit of a break after the coaching search but so much to get you updated on and just a quick programming note. We won't be coming to you as regularly as we do during the season just by nature of the off season and where various projects take us. But when we do come to you we're GONNA make sure it's fire content and bobby. I think delivering today. Yeah no today is going to be great and I think that just because we're not going to be coming to you as regularly like Jane said like don't think there's going to be any sort of drop off in content. In fact there may be an increase in it. Because there's going to be so much that we have to discuss all at once and you know there may be times where especially around the draft and we're around doing things so frequently. We may be able to churn out some more stuff. But either way we're gonNA bring you good stuff and today is going to be really great as we get a chance to talk to. Dez Bryant gas before we get to that Just a couple of things while we've been away I gotTA catch up real quick on one super bowl party that I went to. Oh yes so I got invited to this guy Super Bowl party was over there on Star Island and I walk in and literally wycliffe zone is performing Cardi B. Ends up showing up late at night because there was sort of this cyclone slash monsoonal hurricane situation. That happened while we were down in Miami over the weekend. So it's beautiful hard to be one of your spirit. Animals she loyally is. I was like okay so she showed up around three o'clock in the morning and we were sort of stuck at this house. Imagine this like Super Modern House on the water with this massive yacht in front of it. Everything you think of. When you think of Miami it gets better Chima Right Cliff Kingsbury and Tom Brady right in front of me. We got Dan Danny Amendola. We've got Julian Edelman. Of course I know cliff and the crew from our Texas days. Will we end up because of the rain sort of getting stuck at this table? We'll it's all Tom Giselle. You'd think I'd be over there being a good reporter and trying to get the scoop on where. Tom Is going in free agency. You guys won't believe what Giselle had to say to Jane About Bill. Belichick it is. It is something yes. She didn't say he she didn't say anything but what she did say was I walked up to her and fan girl like a twelve year old does because she is even more stunning in person. I said you aren't literally the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. I mean she is tiny. She's dancing and she literally has its Brazilian access. Your own. My Gosh. That is so sweet of you. She goes I think you're so pretty too and I literally almost because I'm shameless. She doesn't remember anything after that she blacked out right. I shamelessly almost put my phone in front of her instead on days. I'm having a bad day. Can you just report felt better about myself? So that was sort of my. Oh my gosh. I've made it moment. It was just the I can literally never go to a super bowl again. it's just. It was awesome. And of course I saw my boy master From untold stories. Who's done an awesome job with bleacher reports? A shout out to him from the Dallas area. he was also at the party. So we're lake look at us. We're just two kids from the Dallas area and start at the bottom now. We're here so that was cool. Of course went to pro bowl. Got Some nuggets there. Amari Cooper telling me that he wants to stay in Dallas wants to be a long time in fact he's a straight shooter just kind of like it's phoney. I think he wants to be here as much as people say. Oh He seems to be a powder whatever. Which is this weird narrative that seems to have started after the season? I think he genuinely likes being here. One hundred percent but I did think it was curious. Bobby when asked him okay? Well where's the contract situation? And he said he hadn't talked to his agent about they've been talking about other things so okay okay. Ezekiel Elliott was great. He graced us with his presence on. Good Morning Football. He told us that doc needed to get paid. Of course. That's his hype. Man You know. He's sort of a more low key. Mark Ingram to his Lamar Jackson and You know I. I did think it was interesting. You know he he talked about talking to skip. And you know obviously now that Gary Brown is no longer with us which honestly if I have to say like no longer with us not as died but just no longer on the coaching staff. I I gotta say that in Rod Marinelli hit me in a in a different way so. Rip Those guys say goodbye to a lot of people we liked. Because I like I I mean you obviously had a good relationship with Gary and Marinella but just from a kind of a more you know. Get credit staff honestly. I really liked kitten when we get kidnapped. Colombo was great did. Tv with Colombo before. He decided that he wanted to go in. Go Back to the coaching ring. Sanjay law was always relating to chase. And so yeah. It was a little bit of a bummer. To see how many guys left we. We are left with just three. Assistant coaches are being carried over. Its Leon Lett on defense He's going to be working with Jim. Tomasulo the new defensive line coach and then on offense Kellen Morris stain in place which seemed to be Mike McCarthy had his say in this and so that that to me speaks volumes as a guy who does want to be so hands on with the offense that he thought highly enough to calendar. Keep them here But then the other one that was staying in it's a shift and responsibilities as Douglas Meyer. The tight ends coach is shifting to what is more natural history as quarterbacks coach. He'll be working with doc now and and that's a good fit. I know a lot of people that said when it happened. You know he's a tight. Ends Guy was a but quarterback is his background. And if you ask anybody around the team Dacca's a really good relationship with Douglas. Meyer and really likes him. And so overall I think it was tough to say goodbye to some coaches but I think the guys that they did keep I think everybody within the organization are big fans of all right some other things to just chew on here before we get to the main course which is Dez Bryant our special guest as we are here at these sports performance center at Frisco who has graciously allowed us to spend most date here with the podcast. Dak Prescott two nuggets That doesn't look like they've made any movement yet on this contract two sides still seem pretty far apart. I was told the cowboys in staff meetings. Last year on six occasions Said Is Decker Guy was journal Madden market now. I thought it was interesting because on the one hand. I do think that there is an element here of doing due diligence because I was also told by another source that might McCarthy thinks. That doc is in fact the guy and he's a guy he thinks he's a guy that can make him great because I asked a few weeks ago after I was you know in transpired. Giselle and I wanted to get her here to Dallas. Woke up from her coma of course said why not go after Tom. Brady if you'RE GONNA pay thirty five forty million. Why not go and pay? Tom Brady that two years draft. A quarterback cabin learned behind Tom. If you'RE GONNA make wholesale changes around here do it and I was told that might McCarthy prefers to work with the younger quarterback in this situation in Dallas. So those are a couple of nuggets for you to chew on also. I am curious you mentioning that that an and maybe they didn't get the specific from who you had spoken with. But when they said that the topic came up of You KNOW IS DOC. Our Guy is this guy. Do you know if that was said in the more kind of like. I don't know if this is our guy. Is this guy or was it said in sort of deference like checking in with staff like. Hey we're about to pay this guy. Is this guy. Is this guy you guys WanNa work with? What was your sense of that humor? We did our podcast awhile back about Jerry Jones and how he is. I was told that he'll do everything from polling the man on the street as it applies to his organization. I think Jerry is constantly getting input. I think it's no different than Michael. Irvin came out with that report a couple of weeks ago that there was this talk about Tom Brady right. I don't think it was. I don't think there's a little truth and a little a little cocktails there. But I don't think it's any different than Jerry polling people now. Michael Never said it was Jerry that he talked to Michael. Even clarified later. Said it wasn't even necessarily somebody within the cowboys. It was just someone important in the League which could have been a gillibrand could have been another. Gm somebody just chatting with him. But what I would say. I think that Jerry just always throwing stuff out there to see the temperature. I think that's what makes him so great as a boss. What makes him so great as a manager? I think that's why this organization has done as well as it has. It's why it's a Billion Dollar. Enterprise multibillion dollar enterprise is because he's constantly getting the temperature out there so that's the way. I would characterize it. Of course it combine is when we sort of go off these dark alleys and you know we are able to ask questions that we would normally get from the facility. So I've got a lot of questions next week so you would say you think that that those questions because I think some people may react to that and go. Oh Man. They're about ready to move on from doc than you would say. That's less about skepticism. And more just about literally gauging opinions on things that he may even feel strongly about and he just wants to hear what people have to say. I think there's an element of that but I also think there's an element of frustration as I expressed in reported last season that his camp despite and I've said this fill like a dog. That's just won't let go bone. I was told he asked her for his his agent. Todd Franson negotiations asked for that forty million dollar number and we've heard the cowboys organization seems to sense if that's there's an element of greed there now. I don't know how much I WANNA way into that honestly. I think you've got to know that you're dealing with the quarterback market and that's essentially what the market is these days. We're looking at thirty five. Forty million for deck. But I do think it's I thought it was interesting. The source felt the need to share that with me and I think it's I think it just speaks to the fact that they're polling. It is different than when they pulled. The you know the the captains on this team whether or not they should keep does remember that right. Yeah and I mean there's this is an organization that I think more than others. Maybe does really value the input of players in decisions that they make. They may not let them. It's not inmates running the asylum. I don't WanNa make it sound like that. But they do value hearing the people who are affected. I I think you had talked about this at one. Point that You know the Scotland a hand decision to move on from Scotland and a lot of that was about internal polling and and getting the sense of people within the Organization. And so that's what that does sound like. Honestly just them doing their due diligence and look. We may feel a certain way but we just want to gauge. What do you guys think? Where are you out here? Which as Jerry reminded us that Mike McCarthy press conference that they do value the input of their employees that they don't just make these decisions after top without input from everybody else so I thought that was an important distinction that he made at the Mike. Mccarthy press conference yeah because I mean honestly Let's just look at the guy that we're about to talk through does Bryant. If Jerry wasn't interested in in taking feedback Dez Bryant probably doesn't get released anyway because Jerry Jones Le Jerry Jones sentimental guy and he believes in redemption. I do think it's I it is funny that there does seem to be this exterior opinion about Jerry and you know he kinda rules with an iron fist. But with it's really not what we've seen a lot of the major decisions they've made over the last few years couple of other news and notes. I caught up with Jarvis Landry. Who of course worked with Adam Henry at both LSU and with Cleveland browns described him as a disciplinarian of sorts of father figure was shocked that he was no longer with the browns. I got a real sense of loss that they weren't going to have him anymore. So I thought that was interesting And then ask for George Edwards caught up with Harrison Smith with the Vikings called him the glue. That made that thing. Go if you look at that defense. That's a pretty nice compliment from a guy like Harrison Smith about George Edward so I think the staff that they've assembled has been an impressive one so to speak but again. I've really had a chance to get to know these guys and that's why combines GonNa be so important next week combines switching things up a lot of stuff going in a primetime so it'd be interesting to see how much access most of US reporters get to these guys but I'll be hitting the ground running ready to sort of get answers because there are gonna be so many questions off season and even though I said we're not going to be as frequent as we are. I always have to walk that back so I felt the cowboys. There's always GONNA be news. And of course when there's news we're GONNA find a way to get an April there will You Know Jane and I will be together a lot because there'll be several days in a row probably where we need to be doing things together and and I'm sure there'll be new news those days and go. Hey why don't we just knock it out? So yeah it's always. This is a fun as they say. There really is no off season. It's just another type of season for the NFL. And while I'm sort of shifting gears and like I'm filling in on Good Morning Football March first or second and third and your decided about that. You've also got some other side projects that you're doing. I know you can't get into the teams that you're doing this for but I think it's fascinating that you are serving as a scout of sorts. I mean they were just like yeah. It kinda helped out Some facilities in helping out Agencies and stuff with just you know these guys heading into the draft when they head into. Indianapolis a lot of the time. They're coming from you know. Baylor Something Waco. Media is not the same as the media that they're going to run into an Indianapolis and so a lot of them do like to get mock interviews done and Pratt and so. That is something that I've been able to do this time around. That's been you know a good experience. It's just kind of work with prepping. Some of these guys on what they may get asked and some of the tough questions that might get thrown their way and the toughest one of their way. Ooh It's it's hard to say without revealing the exact school at comes for but You know a basically I I have been able to ask guys directly about failed drug tests and suspensions and things like that okay but I think sometimes these teams like to mess with these the minds of the they they ask questions sometimes. History of Football Right. They WanNa know if these guys are like savant in other words because we do talk to players. I'm always shocked that. Tell me you know they play football. But they don't really watch football or care about it. Which I think is interesting. I feel sorry. I pity the draft prospect. That gets in a room with Mr Rainman here and you just drop all sorts sports knowledge on them to see if they know anything about the game. Now the I've been impressed with just about everybody. I've spoken to so far and they all seem. This has been a really sharp group. Actually but you know there are some guys. They're they're still green and a lot of ways and they're not savvy and so. This is a good experience for them that they can kind of get used to That's you don't even if that's the answer you give. Let's say in a different way. That's not a that doesn't sound like a good way and it's not out of any sort of You know Disagreeable nature. It's just they're not experienced at at that tight rope and how things can get taken out of context really easily and look. I'm GonNa let you shine here in the off season because what I do during the season as you know I dig. I asked questions talk to a lot of people where he just really excel. Is this deep dive into the college world in the draft prospects and talking to a lot of these agents. So we're GONNA be able to put you on a pedestal. Hearing this off season. Let you shine and unfortunately because we've sort of taken a hiatus and we have such a big guess today. We're not GONNA be able to do that but I am looking forward to that. Why don't we just go ahead and get to the entree Dez Bryant? I was shocked shocked. I got elected. I'm rose read the host of the new iheartradio podcast. The women every week starting November twelfth. I'll talk to one woman who is an agent of change. I believe in the power of one woman story how balanced needs and the cost of fighting others. When I announced to the world that I was going to transition it was just a moment of joy for me of women of color I do receive regular stream of online abuse and death threats tune into the women on November twelfth for an interview but Dr Mona Hannah. Teasha the pediatrician who exposed the Flint. Water crisis risking her career to challenge. Michigan authorities. Go after me all you want. This has nothing to do with me but this has everything to do with my kids. Subscribe to the women on iheartradio APP on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcast while I'm super excited to be sitting down with one of my favorite guys that played for the Dallas cowboys or the heartbeat of the Dallas Cowboys Organization. Even now you're here at the workout at the sports performance center at Frisco and there are literally fans outside. There's some young guys just waiting for you to sign swag people walking by all these young college guys. You need no introduction. I got Dez Bryant here with me as well as your wide. Receivers Coach D. Rob Holding it down in the lab. Of course you had Corey Coleman up here as well. Little Jordan Humphry. But we WANNA focus on. You does for a lot of people that have been following your videos. There's been mixed emotions. Some people say what can a little slow still. Maybe your time has passed. What's your message to them. You know my messages are here. Like first and foremost I never been at speed guy so I just block that out I've been running. Routes routes has improved tremendously. Thanks to just over here especially in and out of my breaks I used to allow ability Which I still have I really blocked that out. I'm not going to play this game. I'm really not worrying about nobody who never played this game. And for the people who still in his Game San. My workouts giving me feedback. That's the only thing that matters to me. You know when I got guys like go. Thomas come in my stuff getting messages. From Patrick Peterson. Those are elite. Db guys you know. That's the only thing that matters to me so in order to keep grinding. You know I got my head down. I'm not expecting anything. I'm just going to work and see where take me does. I was there for you. Four hours after he got cut from the cowboys that was an emotional day. And then I was there when you got signed with the New Orleans Saints. Two days later you turn up on route. The Achilles injured awful because as you and I joked I felt like I was dropping you off at school and you'd found new classmates and you are ready to rock. How are you different now than you were back? Then mentally will mentally I felt like I had a lot of mixed emotions. I just recently cut from the cowboys. I wasn't really trying to play football that year. But I'M GONNA save that for another time I just wasn't where I needed to be mentally and Appreciate coach paid for bringing in believing in me and I appreciate those guys that was because they brought me and they showed me crazy love. You know something. I'll never forget the best forty eight hours on my life is up there I never forget that you know and having that in back of my head. That's another reason why won't continue to keep grinding? But I wanted to take my time you know so I can focus really get my mind right really understand where I met in life and you know. Just get my priorities in check like done at and I'm doing it now and I'm like I said I'm just grinding. You know and I'm looking to play ball this year. Does I know you've said on social media stuff that you didn't want the Dez from two years ago like regardless of what teams thank. You know you didn't want that does do you think that teams will want this says. Of course it'd be crazy if they did you know like I said. I want to play football these past couple years. I wasn't quite sure if I wanted to play football. You know Not Because I love it. It would just more so of me. Having a healthy brain healthy healthy around me make sure I got all the love that I need around me in in on these setbacks game I need to sit back in the look at the guys you know I just need to see a game and watch from from outside and I did on the love came back. I had this guy derives stand on me constantly about come on man. You still got it. You still got it you know and you know just turned hearing it from guys who believe me like you know what hell with it you know with it. Let's go attitude. Came back in our desire. You know so. I'm here looking to see what I can do. So ROB US. You think deaths still got it. I'll definitely I try and a lot of elite receivers who are a plus years. Nfl And he moves just as well as those guys right now especially coming out with his Achilles injury on when you saw him moving for a while back on the videos. Of course he was wasn't that far removed from his surgery and things like that so of course he was going to be running a little limp but right now that he's back healthy. He's doing everything he needs to do. Off The field the we have the maintenance therapy on his body to you know Keeping moving efficiently so he looks ten times better does. I don't want this to be a PR stunt. I've always kept it real with you right so I'm not going to call you and ask you some of these questions you know one of the knocks I think has been you know some of the social media stuff right you know right after we had our sit down and talk about the guys then. We're there at training camp and you named Chuck to for a some of them. Do you regret that because I felt like there. Were some people within the cowboys community but also teammates that you've soured with them because of all of that well Asset is I think It was It was a time and For guys who know me and a lot of those guys you know who know me inside that Locker Room I am emotional guy but you know is all for is awful. Love already you know. I really don't mean no harm. You know by just like to speak my peace in. My view is no bad blood with none of those guys. I still love those guys. Wish those guys best like I said I root for those guys these past two years. You know you. You know who I'm rooting for you. Know shockingly. He knows dead Any other guy that you know. I really problems with no way. Anybody on the team really. At least I didn't know but I like is good. You know I still take these guys from hearing their Dak Talk to Zeke. From hearing air talked to Mari Som- play with Amari Bernie. Amari takes play man's together. I'll talk to gather whenever he's out and about and if I see him around always good times and good vibes you know. I don't think that's Never GonNa Change. You know my heart is here regardless wherever I go and play. Um You know is all love. I don't have no problem with anybody. That's an important distinction. Do you think that you hurt yourself at all when you were released from the cowboys by putting it out there that you were still hung up on the cowboys that there were only certain teams that you? WanNa play for. Do you have any regrets turning down the ravens the browns so I would say I wanted to say Attorney Down Baltimore Or Cleveland was good. Reason why they WANNA play ball. You know like I was mentally. There ain't no added Coach Peyton he was on me more than he was really coming at me more than those other teams online hell with it. You know He gives me the opportunity to get myself together. He was just going to throw me into the fire. You know so he kept it real with me so I think it was a no-brainer for me just to even attempt to try. So that's what I did so I don't want to say I turned down Arabia's I would've picked that deal in no time if my brain was there you know I would want but Cleveland no time if my brain was but it wasn't so you know I didn't want to disrespect the game. I didn't WANNA disrespect myself. I just Hawaii That's just who I am as a person. What have you done to get your mind right? You know be around my family. Be AROUND PEOPLE. Who Love Me Focus on my projects. You know things that I'm working on. You know folks in the things that I can't control just reflecting back on a whole bunch of stuff you know Like I said I needs I honestly felt like by me. Being away from the game helped me innocence. You know I took everything and I'm I feel like I'm where I need to be. I think things happen for a reason and I'm GonNa go with that. Does you know when you talk about this comeback and the work you've been putting with D. ROB and and everybody wants to see that because you know like you said you were somebody who's getting by so much athleticism and maybe they see it in the work now and they go. Yeah but does your thirty one. You're coming off an Achilles. We'd still like to that athletic ability. I know you. I know you've started working with Bobby. Stoop over at APEC Who's been really instrumental in in the way? Patrick Mahomes has come along. I guess talk a little bit about what you're hoping to accomplish with that work with. Apec and how those workouts of Mogollon. I'd say it is Bobby Bobby is tremendous. I think he's exactly what I need. Just like derive. You know. Bobby is he's one of reminds me of college Back when I was in high school you know I can hear coach Glass Voice. I can hear Bobby's voice. You know by being tuned to what he do. I he's GonNa Bring the best out of you. He's GonNa make you feel like doing it when you don't want to do it. You need those type of guys around you. And that's bobby. You know he cared about his guys you know and he told you he tells his guys the truth then. That's what I like. You know the truth. Put you on your heels at all times and I think that's what I'm used to and that's why it's so easy for me to you. Know gravitate to bobby so. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SANTA BARBARA. Tomorrow and Gets working with him now. Rob I know we you said does is still got it and he's still got that ability but you know when you're out here and you're working you guys are talking all the time and you know you're you're taking things from him and you guys are figuring out the best way to run these routes and everything. Where do you still think Dez needs to improve on his way back? Where where would you isolate them like? This is what something we're still really trying to tighten up what I would just say the The top end of his rouse. Just the topic of his curl comebacks and his arms And then just keeping his foot up on his speak cuts in his speed out. Those are the things that I he can. He can approve on but He's got tremendously better coming off the ball and he's gotten better bringing with him at the top of his routes He looks more smooth influence. So what's there? It's coming right now. We're about eighty percent where we need to be You know you have a lot of connections with receivers and coaches around the NFL. And if one of these teams was considering dads and they said you know. Hey Rob we. We Really WANNA consider talking to dazzle or want to look at bringing him in Give us your assessment of where you think. He's out right now. Where would you if you were giving them an honest assessment of where he does that and the comeback trail? Well what would you say to them what I'll tell them college? I mean he's He's a lot better shape. He's about eighty ninety percent where he needs to be He's a great team guy. He'll be a great receiver to having a room to show. The young is the ropes. Teach them how to be a professional team to win on certain scenarios. Route running So I definitely think that he'll be a asset Brought in on any team that brings me and because He adds that that experience value along with the passion and the energy and Hardy has a plan that position and he'll turn whole receiver room into a war zone. Because everybody you know about tech and play and play like I need to play all right. Let's talk about some of the other knocks Dez. 'cause I talked to gyms around the League I talked to coach is one of the thing was being on time. And that's important. You've got young guys in a room. They're trying to build up the next crop. Young wide receivers. They look to the veterans Showing up to the physical therapy treatments. There was another knock on you and just putting in the work on your body guards. Those things that you're prepared to do for the next and that you've now realized the value of of course of course like a lot of things that you mentioned. I think that's a lot of things that was in the beginning of my career and right now is like I gotta do Hugh no lie. I gotTa do to get back right. You know nobody's paying to do this. I have to do this. You know I'm getting up four or five o'clock in the morning. Get my mind right to go. See Bobby I gotta go drive thirty five minutes to Fort Worth to go to a I have to do. Those things might get paid for that so. I think that's I think that's the easy part you know like. I Say I'm just get myself back into the flow. Get my mind bag right in. I'm looking I'm looking forward to make plays because I know I still care. Hey guys it's bobby bones host the bobby bones show and I'm pretty much always sleep because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple hours later. I get all my friends together. We get into a room and we do a radio show. Wish you're our allies. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world to be possibly can and we look through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country. Artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music to wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point. Seven W. MC Q. in Washington DC. Or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP. It's funny to me because I know you pretty well at this point now does a lot of people. That sort of shrug off this idea of you coming back. I feel like need to go. Read that Rolling Stones Article. That was done on you. Awhile back talked about your childhood and what you came from and you you and I talked about that when we sat down after you got cut that you came from the dirt when people look at this comeback is sort of improbable maybe walk through how improbable. Your childhood was to even get where. You're at where what I was saying earlier. You still two years removed from this league have fans literally lining up outside waiting for you to sign a helmet fans still throw up the axe. It's iconic in a sense for kids that came from Lufkin and as you said really had nothing growing up. I I just I is is is the passion and I'll walk a lot of people's shoes in and just be me and I think just by being me you know. They give a lot of people. Hope man he can do it. I can do it regardless whatever situation is. I just one thing that I want to give people. I made mistakes. I'm not perfect in mind showing that I think And it's all about the bounce back and when people see that they they they attach onto it and like. I said I wanNA give who I am. I don't WanNA give anything false. You know if I fail I fail. Hey look we try. But that don't mean you know is over. You know in the attitude that I want and I'm GONNA fail to have and it's just going to remain the same. Do you feel like you're pretty misunderstood when you're in the League does always felt that way. I always felt that way. Why reasons for I can't I can't explain. Why can't explain why was misunderstood but I know for the guys who meet for the guys who built around me and they know what type of God you know may so much stuff that I can say without a duff guys. But that's just not me you know and I just don't feel comfortable you just the from our heart. Everything is from our you know he's like I like to see guys you know I want. I like to help guys being a position so they can be their best and always been that way. You know like I remember my rookie year with the hazing stuff. I never been a fan of Roy Williams Roy Williams. But I'll tell you this He reached out to me to a couple of years back in. He told me with pride. I mean Ed meant everything to me in I because I guess I'm assuming that you know he kind of understood. You know who I am. You know where I come from. But it's just one of those things when I go through bad experiences things. I don't like I I'm flipping it. That's my whole goal is to flip it to make sure other guys don't go through. We will bring rookies and when I play for the cowboys. I don't need you guys to walk on eggshells. I need you guys to come in here and be the best. I need you to have that same mentality that you have when you was there your fourth year. Guy. They're like yeah understand. Respect the respect older guys were spectacle of course forever. Do that but when you step in between those lines. Anita any energy. I need that fire. I need to see who you are. I want to know what you about you know and as always been my attitude light. I'm no different from you. I don't care how long I've been here. I'm no different from you. Teach me something and not can teach you something. Just always been my attitude you know when it came you know whenever I miss out of that locker room. You know it's just it's just Hawaiian regards to the position to that end. So many young kids and grown adults throughout the axe. I don't think a lot of people realize where that came from so for our listeners. That aren't familiar with what the X. means it's actually symbolic of something for you that's important. It's something that we're sort of talking about here in this podcast mart is really basically is x. now all of the negative you know just folks Symbian laser focus in knowing that you know you. Shan't let the people opinions way on you. You know because we all have different brains in God gave was there for a reason in is just. That's where that's the meaning that I put it but I did threw up the X. Because of Dante Hall I just wanted to put my own meaning behind it. You know look I get a lot of crap but I know I am as a person x this out and I'm a stay low focus and I'm going to like my biggest goal is to be me not changed to Miami but just contained to keep being me. Let people see who I am? You know themselves does I know you're a big facebook guy. You like that because you you like the ability to interact with people. It's like your little community. I know you've said that before. There was a video back when you're at the pro bowl a couple years ago Video Stream and and somebody had asked something comments section. You said I'm going to tell you this right now. I said you guys can tell the whole world the damn done plan for Dallas is the damned. I'm playing football and I know you you said you're in a bad head space after the release from Dallas. Do you still think that's true or are you still so committed to this? Has got to be Dallas for the comeback or are you happy to go elsewhere. I'll tell you this I'm keep it all the way on blunt you know I will learn had that opportunity just because it's not so much of just WanNa play for Dallas. I understand I see what they have the talent that they have to have a Mark Cooper. Now Michael Gallup. They have car. They have decked have Z. They have policy. They have a loaded. Offense have Charleston and you really never been able to play without much talent throughout my whole career. If you see I used to get double. I used to go over the top. I can only think of man you know not to be selfish but I know if I got placed in a position like that I will do some damage. I will do some damage. I know it will help opened up a whole bunch of things. We crane different type of packages. That's a dream you know it is. That's a dream what happened although we don't know but where I'm at right now. You know my daughter asks me that you're gonNA play football again. That was one. That's what really click like. You know what I'm GonNA play. I'm GonNa play ball you know. So you know if he's not a Dallas Cowboy fans. Hey I wanNA play ball so we'll see where I'm I'M A. Who opened the doors for me? Just trying to you know come in whatever they may do beat the best version that. I can't help in any type of way as if that's me you know. Give them water to quarterbacks hill to the runner bag telling no other receivers. You know certain things. I don't mind you know I'm just. I missed the game. That's how hungry you are. Let's you you've talked about. And we've heard reports reached out Steven Jones. I I want to know how that conversation went. Second of all if Stevens said because we know he could be shrewd businessman. All right does I'm gonNA bring you in here for about as cheap as I can. Go does does Bryant do that I know what be what I would want but I think it would be worth it you know. I think it'd be worth because I think those guys have a real shot a going to the super bowl. I truly believe like I'm not just saying. Hey everybody say who's going to Super Bowl now? They really have a legit chance to do that. You know it's just that's what I see. No Game I know the game of football. I notice vibe. I just know I know the vibes. I feel like I can help. Increase that five. You know so say Texas Stephen. How to go? It went better. Thought he walked. That's a good thing. That's a good thing you know tics when I spoke my mind. I just basically just told him you know where I met in my life now filling you know I had time to reflect and all that stuff meeting on Mr Jones Stephen Jones. It will hate is you know I hope the best But we'll be going different direction. He didn't say those words to me so that may get a chance right now. He's not. I took that in Iran with. So you know it's like that also increase. The you know the workout like hey we get a date to get it you know. They got to see this attitude. Oh but you know like I said but for the most part of the conversation. We're very well you know. It wasn't a long but it wasn't like him. As the Steven at I keep stepping on. Bobby's toes but I've got so much to ask you all bobby way in here after this question. Garrett and the regime are gone. You've got a new regime Mike McCarthy and his staff aid you think a change will be good for you and do you think that you need more of a disciplinarian type coach to keep you in line and get you at practice on time. Fine you win. You're not at physical therapy. Do you need some boundaries song. I don't own a grown man. The practice the practice on time thing honestly don't know where the heck from really but We'll save that for Tom Com. Yeah Yeah of course. Of course like for the most part when people say that you know meet speaking coach is really not that is just I feel. I know the game of football. I know vibe that you're supposed to have when you supposed to be playing his game when you playing his game and you know I leave it at that you know about could gehrig's I really don't want to speak much 'cause I don't WanNa feel like I'm speaking to you guys. Clear things up to write you know just you know just a new look just me knowing coach. Mccarthy over the years watching him high he's done things for Rogers in you know How He loves to highlight the run. Is Offense Kinda similar defense kind of similar today? Andy Reed tight. He's like He. He liked the white outs out. There you know so I you know I just feel like he can. He can create some for me you know. And he did say does caught it. He said he finally acknowledged that right. So you know He instantly made a Maria winning. My is you know so well. You were You were one of the last. I mean there was the negotiations demarcus Lawrence. But you were one of the last real like franchise tag standoff guys that the cowboys had. And there's I think some concern or some easiness and cowboys nation right now about they're gonNA franchise stack this is. They're going to be too far apart. This is going to get contentious. A everybody always likes to hear from you in general your thoughts on on things with the cowboys. So what do you think about the idea of getting back? Locked up long-term my opinion. Just my opinion. Yeah you got to have to you. Have to log deck deck. He got he got these things that you can teach you know in a lot of people. Don't have it you know. He's real great. What the guys in the locker room like. That's that stuff is contagious. And a lot of guys don't have that. I'm just going to be honest. He's a great football player. Excellent football player Dak improved each and every year you know and I remember before he came in. We'll mcclay continue to himself. Osteo TEXT MESSAGES. I got to extend was when we had drafted deck at the time he winner in Oakland. Now Watch Mississippi State who who heard of Mississippi state disrespect for Mike Leach. Sec Program for next year you know I it was you know it was like and I was like damn this guy real good I wash to Lsu. And I was like man. Hey Hey the real deal. I didn't even think that you know that was even thought of Jonathan Him. That was the crazy part about it and When he came I was like yeah. I can just tell you. Could just tell he he his chest highs here. Hi You know He. He's not trying to be something he's not asshole. He is a person and I think that's what I loved about him. And you know. And when you like that guy's going to naturally follow him Blah odor to him but my yeah I can. I can follow behind that guy on see. That's that's interesting because you were there for of course a lot of your career injury issues with Tony Romo. So they're always backup quarterback stepping in and and having to do things. Kyle Orton and Brandon. Weeden mad cow. So he played with all those guys and and not to try and put them down at all. That's not the comparison. But how was it different that year when DAX stepped in Y Y? Was the energy different that yours compared to other guys when they tried to step in other than just the talent. Whoa I think because of I think him. I think that can Zeke had that natural connection already. I think that played a part too. You know and It was a lot of new guys and you know and they knew Dak also and I think that had a lot to do with it too so you know at the time. What work you had to. You had to stay with it. And that's in towards Rommel 'cause Romo. He was excellent in his way back has excellent his way. Either way would work. So you know and we'll go wrong now and I will. I am just curious because this is the raging debate on social media right now so Kevin Sherrington from the Dallas Morning News had pulled Brad. Sham Babe Wassenberg Gillibrand and said. Give me your top five cowboys. Quarterbacks of all time all of them I believe put Dacca ahead of Tony and so now it's become this kind of raging debate of you know who who whose legacy is is becoming stronger. Obviously a lot of its projection with Jack. Because he saw early so if somebody was going to say. Does we need you to weigh in here on on to one trauma. I I. I'm I'm GonNa give you my underpants and I'm GONNA GO YEAR FOR YEAR. So yeah if you you really can't do you really can't compare it because that can't play as long as Tony go year for year. Yeah you have to say that look has done to my bad but no you're good to wada two out of three years. He's been to the playoffs. Yeah you know and you just gotTa give that you know you look at his win win lose ratio you know. He's one way more games than loss. You don't have some the president of the doctrines Prescott an unofficial all right. I've got to ask you this. Then since Bobby touched on it you got yourself into sort of contentious contract negotiations with the Jones family and I can't imagine that they're the easiest to go against. Because you've got the public sentiments. It is the cowboys. Were talking about it ad. Nauseam people are now saying. Prescott is greedy. Why not worry about your teammates? You GotTa Get Amari Paid Byron Jones. You know you've got all these free agents describe what it was like going through your contract negotiation. How you shut out. Everybody granted you at ROC nation. Negoti which helps. He's got todd France Shit out did shut it. That's a question you know. It was tough. It was tough because you spent all these years with the cowboys. And I'm like man. You know what's the whole up on my. They know what I'm about you know in hearing all these things that you know I didn't hear before it kind of bothered me a little bit. Now I'm not realizing or this is. This is the business you know in. You know my message to Dak is you know like just block out. All the other stuff is going to get done is going to get done. And don't worry you are the guy you know. You GotTa know that. I most years the guy who I win replace him. I'm just being honest I'm being I'm GONNA replace him. You know it's it's it's one of those things that you don't WanNa mess up. He got the potential to bring you several super bowls just because he that's a guy and you know like I said In operate at you know Mr Jones the whole entire Jones family understand that Know that he's a that's what you want. That's what you want. Lead a franchise Is it's not every day you go and pull up on a DA- press guy is not every day you first round sick around that stuff. Don't meet nut don't get caught up in that. He got something that can be coach. You know I'm not. I'm not just smoke and look demarcus. Lawrence in Zeke. How contentious those things got and they both got paid. You got paid. People are GonNa get planned. It'll get done now. I know you we've sat here and you and you've talked a lot and made reference to it and you've padded rob on the shoulder and said this guy right here next year. Just in general. I GUESS EXPAND. On What Rob's coaching is meant to you the last year and a half and in general what? Because I mean it's one of those things where you always hear when you talk about a veteran or what makes a veteran good one of the lines football players always have is. He's seen a lot of football football. So you've seen a lot of football but it seems like you've learned a lot even coming rob as a guy who's seen what I have. I've learned a lot of learn. I say this about culture up I'm not saying it's because you hear out and say this away from when he wasn't around me I really Li- put a whole different perspective on the game for me like just just basically like just repetition package to to the small things things that I wouldn't even think about. I he really. He's a big reason of the fire that I got. He's a big reason. He brought my companies back. And I'll tell you know we talk around and you know we last humble left fighter here. I say look I win. It's comeback player of the year. You'RE GONNA be right there. I told you right I mean because I just feel off. I feel like you know out of being let it go. If it wasn't for him I just shoot straight. You know I'm excited. I hit the what time we're going. You know. It used to be the other way around the other way around. Right Ed. I'm I'm excited. I'm excited to listen to him like he's not. He knows exactly what he's talking about like I say you know he's Arou- Guru so he he's everything you know. Whenever I get on the team for is game. He has to be there. I if that type of field type of op he. He made me wanting a big reason for me being this way. And you know it's Thinking back to something I know earlier. You're talking about teammates in the locker room chemistry. And you're seeing kind of romanticizing it a little bit We all saw that viral clip from the all or nothing. Were you in Jordan. Lewis Kinda went head-to-head little contentious. But I know you guys look back fondly on it when it was. Is that what you miss? Most about the game juice the first time in Jordan went in. I can imagine we all we've heard your Jordan was rookie by and could go. Coach seating there There's a lot of coaches to sit there and I remember I had I had beat him on Beat them on a slot fate and get ready to run another play. I forgot who I want to say was. Barney stepped in front of me Jordan. Move Far Away and he was like Nah. I won't him instantly fell in love with. Did I actually fellow with because I was like basketball we need. This is what we miss in on the defensive Saudi ball and I used to always still always step on the type of short need to play. I don't know why Jordan are playing by the practice stuff they don't bother me we're GonNa get into their practice. We're GONNA fight in practice but I know when game. Tom Comes Sunday a shit. Yeah you know it's that type of the war with I quote award brings you closer you know I it. Was those things still to this day. I'll talk to draw from there. I forgot this little silly. That was going through right around the corner from here. Some of the guys go there talking to let them know how product when they played Chicago. Bears and ain't exception it. He Eh got on the sideline. I was like. They should have been planning. I'm sitting on my couch on my age. Should have been planning you know because this type of guided us on this scooping score against the giants you know he just had that knack for the ball in the NFC against the saints to seal the game by just gravitate to those kind of players. I can recall like it is only a few players that I do that with Georgio Ballplayer I lo- ballplayers you know your dog for the game. I gotTa tell you it's hard listening to you. Talk About Your Passion for the game because I sat down Tony Romo Super Bowl. And he's just as passionate and I think about DeMarco Murray when I talked to him how to not see you guys Jason. Witten throw him in there to not be able to get something done. How hard is it for you to do these workouts? A block away from the star to be this close to Jerry and Steven and not go knock on their office to not go to the stadium and go to these games. Mike McCarthy said it. I thought very interestingly when he took away from football and he said I needed football. We need it. Football talking about his family. Does that resonate with you? Of course of course exactly right now at this point in oil one point in time like I said you need just need that time to sit back and reflect I. You don't know what you're missing too is gone. You know what I'm at N me. Being thirty one. People WANTED TO BE A. That's old man. This guy's still doing it in the league. Thirty two thirty three thirty four plan wired super and you know a my man. I'm not you know I'm I'm right there. You know deal in between a little bit you know like if I was thirty. Three of some Adrian Peterson playing one of the toughest position early. Thirty five or lower. Look at Richard Sherman comeback having an all pro year in his thirties often achilles. So and I'll tell you. This is one thing that I learned to focus on to. You know how it is with negative stuff. That's going to get the most highlight. That's going to get the most shining bright Albert. What I've learned to do is just Ama- stay focused on his positive? I do do do. Do you really like it's like God talking to look at all of these thousands of thousands of positive comments. He's just going to point out that one negative and let that make you feel some type away now. We're going to scratch that. These people believe you me so you know what I'm GonNa believe me just as much as they believe you me and I'm GonNa keep on rocket so that's the attitude I love. That does does thank you so much for sitting down with us. I know it's been a while. I always feel like when we can sit down. Sometimes I feel like people can sort of see that side of you that doesn't always get projected. Social media isn't always our friends but I think the people that do know you to your point earlier. They know what you're about having been your friend in coverage you. I've seen a change in you so I want this for you. I hope this works out for you and We'll keep following your workouts and I know you're anxious to see where you end up appreciate it. D- Rob Giant. You the man. We always appreciate you allowing us into your workouts. You keep cranking out some of these boys in the League pay man. He's NFL job to out away selfish. Because he do that. Actually that will get you on a route that will get you on the roster then Robs Calvin thanks guys for your patients and of course for the fact that you guys subscribe and care about what we're doing around here. We promised to deliver more fire content as it was the cowboys. Twenty four free agents that Dot Contract Amari Cooper Vira Jones. Jason Witten Sean Lee To talk about in the off season we'll have plenty of stuff. 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College Football Week 12 Picks and Previews

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College Football Week 12 Picks and Previews

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Could be we're gonna get into that. As you mentioned at the top of the show, and as we hinted at on or Sunday show week twelve not exactly loaded to the gills. No with exciting action packed suspenseful college football action, just not not there. So as I do near the top of every preview show when I talk about this window of opportunity you, and I actually discussed almost a reverse window of opportunity as opposed to the window of time during which you can go out and see the world goes, see cats run, your chores and errands instead this week, we may just want to give you a window of games to make sure that you watch. If you want to pop in from whatever else the. The world might have for you. Like if he can't watch games this weekend. That's fine. But if you're looking to maybe target a specific window to come in and watch a couple of games before you go back out to the picnic. We kind of identify that for you in week twelve which is your window. I mean, there's only basically two options you can watch during middle to late afternoon early evening. And so you'd get bright West Virginia, Oklahoma state's USC UCLA. If there are any clay Hilton stakes on the line there. Chip kelly. Does he beat USC near one or it's basically the night game? See of Duke, Clemson, Stanford Cal Cincinnati UCF. And if you are fortunate to enough to live in the Republic of Texas, Iowa State and Texas on the Longhorn network. Yeah. I think I think for me the window is starting at let's say four o'clock eastern time through me be six thirty seven clock. Okay. So you you're not watching the first half or so of Notre Dame Syracuse now just get it's like an MBA get get in front of the TV for the last two minutes if you're interested. I think that's the time. And that would also give you chance to catch up with a lot of the West Virginia Oklahoma state game, which if nothing else should feature a lot of scoring. Absolutely. And I think we'll get into that. When we get there. Yeah. We'll get into before we do though actually. We do have. Boop up people. Boop, major breaking college football. Firing news dropped about what twenty minutes after we hit stop on Sunday, something like that. Even it might even be a quicker turnaround. Yeah. That's usually the way it works. This time of year. We joke about it. It seems to happen every week who knows who it will be this Sunday. But yeah after week eleven clearly things have not been going very well for the Louisville cardinals. There have been rumors. The rumors turned into a near certainty Louisville loss pretty handily to Syracuse last week we found out on Sunday afternoon that Bobby portray no had indeed been fired from Louisville. Cardinals was not a good year. Everyone kinda saw this coming. I guess now the focus shifts from portrayal era Louisville to who comes next who does come next and who are the early names? So this is according to odds, shark, which. I mean, I don't know what. The reality of of these odds, but these are the current odds. So Jeff Brown has been the obvious name that has been thrown around with the little job, of course, strength having coached a Louisville played at Louisville played high school football in Louisville. Ky is your current leader at minus one ten so you would have to bed if I am correct hundred ten dollars to one hundred dollars. That is correct. Yes. So he's the overwhelming favorite. Of course. He's had a ton of success at Purdue and this long standing rumor with, you know, Bobby Katrina, even while he still had a job looking like it was not a long term situation for portrayal at Louisville. There's been this back and forth of what's the better job Purdue with the comfort of being in the big ten without having the pressure of having to get to say a New Year's bowl. He has a sizeable contract. I believe he was extended either last year the four. And Louisville which you know has a history of they've been to a huge bowl game or two. They've produced a recent Heisman winner they've had a basketball national championship. It's a higher profile athletic department, no longer affiliated with Papa John. We should point out. Right. That's correct. But I tend to come down on it's probably Louisville. But I don't think it's that far apart, and I would understand because unless you live a lot closer to where you grew up than when I did I am never in the mindset of oh this person went to the school. He definitely wants to go back and coach there or this person grew up right around the corner from the stadium. He definitely wants to go back and coach there there are a lot of us myself included that don't necessarily want to go back to the immediate place in which they grew up. Right. I think that's fair. I also think to your point there will be a hell of a lot more pressure on him. If he did go back to his hometown, you know, because then he's coming back almost in the same capacity as Scott frost. Now, there's been much more pomp and circumstance around Scott frost, going back Sherm, Nebraska. But I think it's similar in that. Yeah. Jeff Brown will be coming back is obviously a successful coach Louisville had some really high highs. They're going through some low lows right now, he has to be the guy he needs to be the guy to lead them back to prominence. Whereas if he stays at Purdue look produce bit in the gutter for awhile, it finally seems like they're building some positive momentum surely fans in west Lafayette are going to be a lot more understanding and patient than I think the fans if you went back to Louisville. I would add right now there is one surefire roadblock. If you are the head coach at Louisville. That's Clemson right in the ACC. Sure. We don't fully know what's going to happen. With Florida state's or Virginia Tech or Miami. Each of whom are having pretty down years to various degrees. There's that one surefire roadblock. At Purdue the division is winnable, but you still have the Wisconsin roadblock, potentially Nebraska moving forward. But that's unclear and then you have three and a half roadblocks on the other side, you know, based on whatever your feelings are about Michigan state at the moment at least in Penn State, but Michigan and Ohio State are for sure the the behemoth standing in the way of high high level success, which isn't necessarily expected at Purdue. But in terms of roadblocks that will forever. Stay ahead of you know, that sort of the situation. Interesting what other names very quickly are. So are on that list. Neil Brown who was once again quietly had a lot of success at Troy this season. His name was you know, in the Arizona conversation last year Ryan day whose name who's the offensive coordinator at Ohio State whose name has come up with you know, urban Meyer were to step down after this year when? He would be the transitionary name with Ohio State. He's he did a very good job has done. A very good job with twain Haskins. Brent Venables whose name has always popped up. But he seemingly doesn't have much interest in being a head coach anywhere. The defensive coordinator. Clemson who's done a marvelous job, Luke fickle, who I think has Cincinnati ahead of where a lot of us would be. We're gonna talk about Cincinnati. There have great. So the former Ohio State coordinator and recruiting super well at cincy and certainly not far away. Geographically Matt Campbell who I think will be in every single open coaching conversation. Who's done a great job at Iowa State, Dino babies who has Syracuse on unforeseen levels of of success setting. They're in the top fifteen right now in the college football playoff rankings, Scott Satterfield, a name I like a lot who's had a lot of success recently with app state. And then finally on this list Jason candle who is down year for Toledo, but has has some some nice. Is moments in success with the rockets. So those are all pretty local to Louisville which is a pretty good job. But not on the top tier in the ACC in other college football news, Dan, there are new college football rankings. And guess what? They look exactly the same almost exactly the do as we could go. No change right now if the season worked end it would be Alabama one Clemson two Notre Dame three Michigan for do. You have a problem with that order. No hope NY now. Some some people have pointed to Michigan perhaps having a more successful way through their perhaps more difficult scheduled nothing that Notre Dame can necessarily control those two teams play Notre Dame. Michigan. I believe Notre Dame did win that game. I believe it was twenty four seventeen that will be the end of the argument is that the end of the argument, though, do you do you cut it off at head to head week one? Like, I know I know you're mostly saying this seriously. But there's a part of you that says that that you're saying this is a N D nation. Dot com. Lurker? Sure, of course. Yeah. Will they played head to head and Notre Dame lead it, so I don't understand the logic and putting Michigan above Notre Dame? They play well Notre Dame. One name hasn't lost that should be into story why they played head to head. I know they did. But wise at the end of the story when there's an entire the season is involving beast, the season isn't involving beast for sure. But if there is that head to head comparison, that's the problem with the whole system. That's the beauty in the whole system in very few instances are far fewer instances than we need. You don't have that head to head comparison. So certainly it should hold the most weight knowing that they played knowing that one team beat the other Notre Dame looked pretty damn good in that game. They did. So if you've got that as a variable to consider you should want to use it, you should use that first and foremost above all else. So right now, and depending on how much stock you put in this. Bill Connolly's s and p plus ratings. I'm very careful use ratings not rankings Kurt's future predictive. So Michigan is ahead of Notre Dame in terms of offense defense and special teams. The the resume s and p rank of Notre Dame is fourteenth and the resume rank of Michigan is third. Okay. So a against what he purports to be a stronger schedule, which I think is reasonable to say also with Ohio State coming up and potentially a big ten championship game. Michigan has performed better against better competition. Okay. And I I don't think that's everything. I think head to head this part of it. But I'd say head to head in week seven might be more important than head to head in week one. Okay. So you would put Michigan above Notre Dame. I might I might. So here's the thing the sort of addendum to this. Yeah. I think I might be inclined to do that. This is a ridiculous argument. But continue I'd like I mean, listen Michigan didn't have the chance to sneak by ball state. Right. That's right. Michigan did not have that opportunity to get by pit. Although I it's pretty good now. My addendum is Notre Dame fans are looking at this as a Michigan verse Notre Dame thing they're worried that it's gonna come down to the Irish. And the wolverines I think the Irish go twelve now they're not going to be competing for a spot. Right. I think if Michigan wins out in the big ten so they finish the season twelve and one then it becomes a Michigan, Georgia, Michigan Oklahoma, Michigan Washington state question. If everybody seems to our West Virginia excuse me for that matter as well. Unfortunately, UCF probably won't be in this conversation. But I don't think ultimately it will come down to Michigan and Notre Dame and Yellen about head to head in early September. So also in those same SNP plus ratings, please we've got Fresno state above West Virginia. We've got central Florida. Yeah. Above Ohio State. We've got Appalachian state above LSU. Did you watch? State struggle with Nebraska. I remember that game. Pretty I'm using examples here, I know. So are we just going to accept that at face value? Then that be no, I just radio said, therefore, no, okay. I use that as an example of saying Michigan's performance throughout the season can be looked at as more successful than what Notre Dame has done. You know, selecting the wrong quarterback potentially to start the season. And Notre Dame beat Michigan with their backup quarterback. They did beat Michigan with the backup quarterback in. Did. They did. So I'm just willing to believe that the season evolves. And it's a it's a changing beast. Let me put it to you this way. Oh, yeah. I value the head to head matchup more than a value. Anything else note was week one. I know the season of all of Michigan's come a long way, I think what Michigan's done so far the season from start to finish has really been admirable. I absolutely think they deserve a spot in that top four. But as long as Notre Dame remains unbeaten as long as Notre Dame did beat Michigan to head to head. There's no reason noted aimed shouldn't be ahead of them. Until proven otherwise. Okay. Interesting. I actually had another question for you. Because I don't I don't consume a ton of college football talk. I will listen to our friends at P P N, Stephen Godfrey and Bill Connolly, but that's sort of it in terms of odd casts, a radio or TV. I I really reading I read a lot. That's what idea. Yeah. And I just I I like to live in reality more than I like to live in like the argumentative world as you can probably guess tied. Don't really like arguing all them. Now, not really our brand of podcasting. But the one thing I've seen in a couple of different places is the question of has this been a good season. Has this been done has this been fun because there are certain seasons where you know, there's a crazy amount of upsets, and that is really fun to some people or that is sort of to topsy turvy and people like order, and you know, people like the teams accomplishing things being. Rewarded for complicating things and not having everything sort of be turned on its ass has twenty eighteen now that we are heading into week twelve is it a capital g good season capital. G well, how do you quantify the? I mean first off we do a podcast. We've done this podcast mostly in our own free time for not a lot of money for ten years. Yeah. So for us the definition of good. We will find the goal have. I not been sending you the checks. Oh tie on. Sorry. We will find the good in any given season. Because that's that's why we do this. But I think relative to some of the other seasons that we've seen here that we've been podcasting. There is a little bit of excitement out the window because Alabama is so good because since like week three it's very much felt like a foregone conclusion. That Alabama was the best team, or at least that Alabama. And Clemson were the best two teams. So I think and I said this a couple of weeks ago this constant battle for what feels like second place has definitely taken a little bit of shine off the season. I'd also add something that we brought up last show or the show before more. We talked about the quality of some of the winds that we've seen the season. This is actually your I d I can't take credit for it. How many good high level legit winds? Have there been by top ten teams? So far and Suzanne. Yeah. Not a lot. There's there's a lot of in retrospect, oh, I guess beating Penn State is not like the craziest thing. Are there are sort of? There are look backs that don't make you feel like it has been a heavyweight season that there is so so much at the top happening that you have to pay attention all day every Saturday, like I'll take TCU as an example. Sure TCU lost to a high state forty two twenty eight back in what was that week three? We thought that was really gonna be this. This is a harbinger of things to come for the college football season. Well, right TCU's, really really bad way right now and a high state Ohio State has regressed a little bit Ohio State isn't what we thought it's always easier in retrospect to examine what games were bigger, and which ones weren't but still that's one to me that looking back. It's disappointing that game. Didn't mean a whole lot. This makes me think makes that thing. This makes me question. Not in a negative way. Not an ill meaning way. But is Alabama excellence? Or are they good in a year where nobody is basically good where it's just like Alabama has met expectations of being good with good players and good coaches, even with all the turnover on the coaching staff, whereas everything around them is being is sort of crumbling or is so new you look around the SEC west, and you know, LSU with its second offensive coordinator in two years under Ed Ron and taxonomy hiring a new coach Mississippi State with a new coach ole miss going through it went through off the field, and the changes that it was going through Auburn really looking like it was going to be a good team on both sides of the ball with an experienced quarterback inexperienced defense, and they fall off a cliff for a good chunk of the season. Is it just that Alabama? And maybe that is the brilliance of Nick Sabin in Alabama is just they're consistently good. But if you were to weigh this team like this defense against two thousand eleven defense, probably not as good. But the fact is they're just meeting expectations. And we go around call. Football because and this is something we've talked about before. We spend eight months talking about hypotheticals. We are hoping this team is good. We are hoping this team is improved. We are hoping this quarterback keeps on his trajectory of improving and looking great. And then when we get to the season and teams don't meet at least our personal expectations or conventional wisdom for expectations. It's disappointing and this season if you look across mostly the major conferences, but even some of the smaller conferences, there are no small conferences, just small mines, obviously. Basie c has one team. We are positive there. At least good, okay? The big twelve has two teams in Oklahoma and West Virginia that were positive is good. But you know, Texas is week to week entertaining. Iowa State looks, you know, aggressively competent, and then beyond that, you're like, well, Texas, Tech and injuries and TCU's been crazy injured, and this would have been a good year for Kansas state to jump up and be pretty good with everybody else struggling there's been a vacuum in the big twelve the big ten it. Okay. Down Wisconsin here who's jumping up and taking their place are down. Penn state. You're down Michigan state who's jumping up and take nobody vacuum in the big tent. And then you look at the the Pac twelve and he's like, okay, Washington big expectations. Definitely didn't come close to meeting them taking their place, even the SEC, Dan. Yeah. Outside of Alabama and Georgia. It's a it. Feels like a cafeteria year. Again, I always bring it back to two. Food. We're not gonna go hungry and a cafeteria you're not gonna have a bad time watching college football season long. But sometimes you just gonna get mush man, there's a lot of mush this year in college football. And I I hope you know, bowl season gets weird. I hope rivalry weeks. 'cause I guess there's multiple weeks. Now, get weird. And I imagine they will. But in terms of filling vacuums it has not it has not been the most exciting year. And no, I I am magin. It's cyclical and next year will be crazy or something like that. But you know, I was talking Pac twelve and just, you know, the the mess that isn't I find it entertaining. But it's conference that has a hard time getting people to pay attention to it. The s the Pac twelve south has been a mess. The Washington vacuum has allowed Washington state's really establish itself. But Stanford and Oregon with down years, and there's just that that pretty good gap where it's a TB D. And I think it's just going to be a TB all year long. There's there's. Not a lot of conference number four of risk conference number six games that either have steaks or really presents a reason to like, oh, I gotta stay up late to watch, you know, Arezzo Utah or something it was just it's tough. It probably makes for a lot of interesting matchups come bowl season. Yeah. To our earlier conversation. It does set up nicely for a team like Notre Dame that isn't in a conference. Oh my God. The best Bryce thing for Notre Dame conference. Play would have taken a different turn throughout the course of the season. Notre Dame might have had a tougher argument. Even despite the fact that they're undefeated not being in the conference might have come back the bite them in a way that it won't this year. Because so many conferences feel like they're down out so way in let us know solvable gmaiLcom is the Email also look up on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, all the usual hot-spots, Dan, real quick before we get into some of the games, we got some other things that were going to drizzle in here over the course of the show because it is saved. The date Saturday mind you in we're going to have fun with it and talk through all the games, but it's not the highest of high profile college, football wise. We're gonna talk about some other odds and ends here. The thing I did want to get into though before I forget, what is what is going on. Now at Ohio State. What is this latest bit with a wide receiver Trayvon Grimes of understand? Correct. Trevan games. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna last much longer. It's very strange story Brett mcmurphy who's now at stadium formerly at ESPN reported that there that basically there was a confrontation between Zac Smith. You should probably know who's ex- myth is by now the now fired former Ohio State wide receivers coach confrontation between him in this former Ohio State receiver Trevan Grimes, which went into a a racial component. There was an accusation from Trevan Grimes who has snout transferred to Florida. I believe his father levied accusation that the racial component was brought into. To basically, Zac Smith dressing-down Trevan Grimes at practice and immediately after and with just no hesitation, Ohio State receivers urban Meyer, and gene Smith, the Ohio State athletic director, Michael Drake. The president of Ohio State all came out and said this one hundred percent not true. The receivers said they saw the altercation, and there was nothing racial about it and just across the board denials, which I think speaks pretty loudly, but the the sangha of of Zac Smith and Ohio states and just strange weird accusations continues. I don't think it's gonna last that much longer. I don't know. It's it. It was very odd. Okay. Well, we'll have to wait and see. Yeah. Let's get into some of the games here, shall we? Let's do it. All right as we said, not the most loaded slate of games. But that's may we'll do our best to add as much sizzle and spice as we can. But before we in. Let's talk about Indochino. Oh, please. I'm ready. Let's talk about Indochino it's North America's leading made to measurements. Where company they make suits to make shirts to your exact measurements. Which gives you an unparalleled fit, unparalleled comfort. Who if we're being honest, all you gotta do is visit a showroom and have someone take your measurements. Personally, or you can measure yourself at home and shop online at Indochino dot com. That's I N D O C H I N dot com. Then you pick your fabrics, and your customisations, and you know, you just wait for the best suit you've ever worn to roll on in in addition to the compliments who get wearing such a finely tailored suit. Here's what's going on. 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If they win next week on the road at USC they are in the playoffs. There's any two ways about off. Yeah. The stakes are extremely high. And what worries me is at Syracuse knows that as you know, from time to time. I talk about games that I call, quote, I'm using the air quotes here defacto national championships. This my friends is a classic case of that Cassara cues ain't winning the ACC Atlantic. They're not playing. The title game. They close out the year with Boston College at this point in the season. This game is syracuse's national championship game. And so I get a little worried when I see a situation like that. Because I know they're going to be fired up. So the good thing is it's not in the carrier dome. I mean, just in terms of rain, a huge moment for Syracuse football in what they are themselves playing for and just this huge stage where there's nothing really else happening at this time, it doesn't appear. I also liked that Syracuse ahead of this game. Like as a school. Like, we did not move this game Yankee Stadium. This was not a Syracuse home game. I wanna make that perfectly clear. So this is a Notre Dame home game. If you like Syracuse in this game, you probably love the idea of hidden yards. And that's because Syracuse has the best special teams unit, which I guess is like five different units by in college football. That's right. They they hunt amazingly. Well, they cover a punt amazingly. Well, they return. Punts. They just you know in in the game of field position. They are just consistent winners and against what appears to be a very very good Notre Dame team. It feels important. I don't trust. Syracuse offense to move the ball against a a top-flight. Notre Dame defense too crazy extent. And I don't know how much that I don't know much. Syracuse stops Notre Dame, especially if if the Irish are getting going on the ground with Dexter Williams, which listen if he's running while they're winning. That's just the definition of Notre Dame season. I think it's close for half. I think Notre Dame ultimately wins this game by double digits spread is about nine nine and a half depending on where you look I have Notre Dame thirty four to twenty. Okay. Interesting. You can I'm sure talked to the book situation. Well, yeah. I mean, I'm curious to see how Ian book looks. He sat out the game last week due to injury. Syracuse actually does a pretty good job getting after the passer and ryobi injuries. Can be aggravated very easily. I've done it. Believe me. I've broken ribs. It's not hard to reactivate, them comparable athlete. Tighter. Brand. Of course, I can speak to it from the Ilene athletic perspective. Yes, sir. I do want to get back to what you said though, you mentioned hidden yards. I'd expand that out and say hidden stuff. Syracuse is at a point now with Dino babies where they're scoring like forty four points a game with which is great. But what intrigues me most is the boring stuff the hidden stuff that you mentioned field position to your keys. Very good. When it comes to play in the field position game. What about turnovers turnovers right now cues is the fourth best in the nation in turnover margins. All right. They've got a freshman defensive back with five interceptions. It's incredible. And then you mentioned the special teams, according to the S and P plus Syracuse does of the dust special teams in the country. So if nothing else, I think that points to Syracuse playing really good team football. That's not always something that shows up statistically in terms of box scores. But in a very Iowa State. He kind of way that to me is a team that's going to hang around and play tough. Now. That's why that's why I worry. Also, worry I won't drone on too much about this. I promise I worry about Eric Dungy, excuse me grungy. Eric dungy? Thank you. He's very much a dual threat quarterback. He leads Syracuse with one hundred and twenty nine rushing attempts. Any is twelve rushing touchdowns on the year? Plus he's a capable passer. Notre Dame's defense hasn't really seen that that kind of quarterback this year. So I'm curious to see how they respond. They could see a quarterback like that. If they make the playoff. Won't mention any names. But certainly this is an interesting next step for them just as a defensive unit. So the problem for Syracuse. They give a lot of big plays. Notre Dame has some homerun hitters you mentioned, Dexter Williams. I just I think it'll be a close game. I do think noted has got the edge here. But I think Syracuse is go fight him. I wanna count anyone else. So I'm taking taking I always take points. I know. But who are you act? I take the point STAN I'm on the side of the points. It should be forties and sunny, so nothing crazy weatherwise we disagree. I guess what is it? Moving on. Let's go to three thirty ABC West Virginia at Oklahoma state. I got this one at four and a half right now. Here's the deal for West Virginia. They're six and one in the big twelve they're tied for first in the conference with Oklahoma. If they win this week it sets up, I guess two straight weeks of Oklahoma versus West Virginia once the regular season once in a conference championship. I am certain that Oklahoma state has to be aware of this. You know, they love to play spoiler. But they're defacto national championship game was last week. And they lost to their hated rival by let them miss two point conversion. So I'm wondering if there isn't any Norma let down effect in play here for Oklahoma state. Then. Maybe I mean, the games in Stillwater. It's it's hard to be to let down in a huge game. You have an opportunity to not bought knock off a top ten team once again, Oklahoma state has one this came these last three years. Yeah. This is not like a crazy underdog story, even though and you can play the the sound from a real quick if you have it. Yeah. Oklahoma state's my uncle's home dog of the week. Who Doug of the week? And I don't know how we haven't mentioned it, but the ultimate tie receiving corps. Yeah. In Thailand, Wallison Tyron Johnson who are not who are not huge receivers. And that's who's given West Virginia secondary some trouble this year. If you look at what Texas Tech what I mean, a Butler at Iowa state's Texas with old, Jordan Humphrey and Colin Johnson. They've had success against West Virginia secondary, still a very good, or at least an improved West Virginia defense, I like Oklahoma state here not just to cover this four five point zero buddy. I have them winning. I have them winning at home against West Virginia. I like the the fight that they showed last week against Oklahoma. I think they're secret growers right now. Oklahoma state in spite of Mike Gundy, having just another dumb week of quotes. I am still going with the pokes here because I like Shuba hub. And his advancement. I like the corn dog. I love the all tie receiving core. Okay. Okay. I want to be honest here. Yeah. It would be a waste of time to try to dive too deeply into the match ups here because this is too high powered offenses, this is going to be a shoe. It's gonna be a shootout. Anyway, you slice it. It's gonna be a shootout. My big bet here is that Oklahoma state is spent from bedlam a week ago, and they come out flat. And when you come out flat against West Virginia, west Virginia's gonna be fired up for this game. I think they get out to a lead and Oklahoma state can't make up the ground. I think they win comfortably. I think a lot of points. But I'm gonna say, but fifty one thirty eight was foul. Yeah. A big win setting up a big game in the big twelve next week. Can I ask you for a favor because I've noticed something about you? I'm listen, we're going to go through so many games so quickly. You love a good defacto national champ. I love it. I love it. Can we before the season starts go through every teams defacto national championship? And also can we come up with a as the? This week. But in the last couple of weeks of the season. Can we come up with a defacto college football playoff of four teams playing in defacto national championships and see how they do we could? I mean, it might be John Nash situation while I'm writing with the chalk pencil on the window. But I will do it. Then I want an earth to defacto season that we are just going to start up and just imaginary stakes across the board. That's all I want is Colgate involved in said earth to all my guy. This is one hundred percent coal gates to facto national championship going to army, buddy. Oh my gosh. All right, next one. I guess we disagree again moving on eight PM ABC Cincinnati at UCF. Now, look this is not a game. We usually preview with the others. I don't want to take anything away from either of these two teams because it's been a really good year. But you're about to. Yeah. I also think the fact that we're talking about it this early in the show. Ranted forty five minutes in speaks to the volume of other games that we've got here on save the date sadder, but UCF nano I think eleventh in the college football playoff rankings. Cincinnati non in one. Both our top twenty teams though, they've taken very different paths to get their UCF has the offense the prolific offense McKenzie Milton. Everyone knows about the offense Cincinnati's played really sound defense. I think in this game UCF has way too much offense. But also more defense than you'd expect. Now here is my one. Disclaimer don't get too excited about me saying that because I used I believe the exact same logic. When I locked up UCF, minus five I wanna say against Memphis earlier, one by one. Yeah, they want thirty one to thirty. So I'm going to go back to the well here, I'm going to hope that second time is a charm the UCF defense top fifty in the nation. Not great. But better than you think. I like them. They're at home. They're a seven and a half point favorite. I think they win by thirteen going away. Wow. Okay. I disagree. I should also point out. There is no defacto national championship on line one. None here UCF's will be if they were on the table and get a big ball game. That's right. Yeah. I think he hit everything. Fine. UCF has an awesome offense generate big plays. They're complete the defense actually improved from where they were last year. Cincinnati just an incredible defense ahead of schedule with everything. Luke fickle has had to do with the Bearcats. They do give up some big place through the air. I think that's not great. But with the energy in this building. I think their defense will travel game day is going to be there. I'm going to take the points here. I'm actually going to say UCF thirty-three since he twenty seven and UCF is played tight at times this season. We've seen them. Let teams back into games after jumping out too, comfortable leads. I think Cincinnati comes back and doesn't win. But makes it a game. So I'm gonna take the points. We. Eight PM on Longhorn network. If you have it or an illegal stream somewhere else out Twitter dot com. I state at Texas the line here is three points. The longhorns again state of play here is that Iowa State is worn five in a row after losing at the end of September to TCU a loss that yet looks don't look too closely at it a little worse and worse by the week. But it's different team now. So I think we're all excited about Iowa State and Brock Purdy in the way, they've looked since. Then on the flip side. We've got we've got Texas. Let's take a good look at Texas. Dan, say a good hard. Look stick a good hard. Look at the long horns. Okay. Sam etlinger will join Humphry. We like them, right? Yeah. For sure how do you feel about the defense though? A lot better early hunting season than I do. Now, you can move the ball on this Texas defense, especially through the air. They've had to deal with injuries. They've suspensions it has been a a step back year losing a couple of pretty big piece. Eight lost they lost pieces. But look the S and P play rough the S and P plus says that Texas has the sixty ninth best defense in the country. I mean, it's nice. But it's just tough to be impressed. If you play the season in verse knowing what we know. Now, you hold TCU to sixteen points that that ain't that impressive whole now who has C to fourteen points in retrospect