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Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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"Baseball tonight, the podcast. Visit the baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday, June twenty fifth two thousand nineteen BUSTER only FEC and Bristol. Try Farkas injust macrey who's going through victory tour in his last week on the show. We got the official word on Monday. Josh, it looks like Twitter, everyone just fawning over you. It's kind of gross. You may think it's gross. I appreciate it. I like the positive response. I'm a sucker for stuff like that. So thank you to everybody, for your kind words, though, BUSTER. I did notice that you said, Troy's name I on today's show so that has been noted and remember that. Well, I mean, from a practical standpoint, you know, making the transition to talking about you better than having a double bag. I'm just saying, but you know what I mean. We're, we're preparing to move on. Especially after yesterday. Tim, basically, gave me credit for all the success of the show. And you know, that that's kind of that kind of hang something tells me, Carl will not be so kind, we'll see what Karl has to say. But I just knowing the Rabbie express, you'll probably run you over, like a freight train. Exactly. All right. News notes of the day, devastating news for the Saint Louis cardinals on Monday. They announced that closer. Jordan Hicks, has a torn elbow, ligament. They announced injury. They did not disclose whether Hicks will undergo surgery. But that's usually what happens in these cases. Be talking about that situation. With Carl coming up dodgers. President Stan Kasten told the Orange County Register that they will extend netting they'll become the thirteen now to indicate that they're going to extend the netting, and as we talked about in the podcast last couple of weeks you figure eventually all thirty teams, we'll get to that place. Mets dysfunction continues reportedly they find both manager. Mickey callaway. In pitcher Jason Vargas for what happened in their clubhouse on Sunday. Those fines about ten thousand dollars. There was a lot of back and forth before the game about whether or not Mickey Callaway should have done a better job apologizing. We'll hear from Mickey Callaway later in the podcast. Also the reports initially by the New York Post, I did reporting confirmed that during the course of games. There've been moments where the Mets leadership has dictated decisions down to the coaching staff during the course of games Tim coaching, our friend was on spanning company talking about the Mets and control. The Mets are huge trouble in their division. They're in a mess. Overall eternally and it's just never a good. Look, when the manager who's really smart, by the way and kind of snaps like that. It's usually a sign that the pressure and the frustration is mounted to the point where oh, I've seen this Napa. Before manager, flips them for, you know, he's not the man of your anymore, not suggesting that's going to happen anytime imminently, but this is not a good look at all. And that was very unlike Mickey Callaway, but this is where ownership management there, or has to step in and be in control of this situation, and clearly that has not been the case, and the Mets problems continued, once they started playing baseball on Monday and this important series against the Phillies. The Mets were blown out. Get over saying, oh, there we go to war. To who? Second the knife Phillies retake the lead five four. Three. Oh, swing dry, centerfield state back does Conforto take that. Foot signed Senator Mike l fry Joe. It's a cure on home. Run is essential to the season. The two swan Belton deep right field and that ball is gone. Run Homer for Jay Bruce over the night for the Phillies for Bruce, twenty first of the year, his seven with Phillies, and it's well to six Philidelphia versing mercy, mercy, the Phillies blow out the Mets thirteen to seven that sound, Tom McCarthy, Jimmy Rollins NBC, sports Filadelfia, and then the sound from Scott Francey sports radio ninety four w I p the cubs in the Braves played in Wrigley field in the benches cleared in the bottom of the second inning toront- stairs in gets the sun, the catcher flowers pitch. This one is they're fairly deep to right going back his Marquette. Switch. I. Hamrin loosen contrarius his sixteen one bridge nothing here in the second. I don't know it going on something to be said in all. There were vice. Or the paint soil the graves running on site. Not suit up once Wilson, not wanting to Ron. Choir. John Tom pain is literally pushing Ceron that from the third base line, all the way back to the mound, the benches have emptied. There's a lot of dialogue taking place on the field. I'm guessing flowers some of the antics, and things like that, that's something he doesn't like he's talking to Joe Madden. And that's what I'm guessing. Yes. Something happened home plate. I'm not sure what was set something was said around the flavor. As soon as controller ship the homerun watching the replay turn around and set something either the home plate on fire or the catcher flowers could be both. It could be could be conversation that contributed with Johnson pain, flower said something along with that. And now both teams are going to be warned going into this next pitch. So that's what's going to happen players. Are now going back to their respective dugouts poll pens that from the cubs radio network and after the cubs beat the Braves eight to three Wilson contrives explain why Tyler flowers mad at him to be on those visual were even close to trikes got my because I was talking to buy about having jump to the conversation. Yeah. And he extended his conversation about what he said, Tyler flowers are just tell him to do mine. Does. On why he got because it does say that you do. Use dumai. Yeah. They're Wilson chairs had been upset about the strike zone. And so when he hit the home run, he looked back at Tyler flowers, and then he was barking at Tyler flowers, as he crossed home plate and is Ron Coomer described on the cubs radio network flowers and Joe Madden spoke after the game here is Tyler flowers having play a portion of that Troy. Instigating words and then whole whatever the heck that was. What's that? Even happy with the empire second shrike for some reason, he felt inclined to say something to me after the ball. I dunno. He started saying something while before he got to the plate. I'm pretty sure you've flexed or something as he left the box, so they wouldn't about me. It was about him showing up pitcher in that kind of situation that was more. My issue with it. I got. No problem with them saying anything to me. But, you know, when it starts to reflect on pitcher on the mound, and our team that's that's more than issue for me. Diamondbacks and the dodgers in the bottom of the second inning, the Diamondbacks jumped on Clayton Kershaw. Dr. Center. Time. We're tied up at three I got all back. Definitely has a big slip on Clayton Kershaw. Just wears, I mean, we're not even talking about Basit we're talking about home runs every time he steps into that batter's box to us center. Cut nothing ball in Christian. Walker hits it out onto the home run porch in left center peel, St. birthday, human Bob Branly on Fox Sports errors on that. Bottom of the second inning. The rally continued Verizon is at cranky at the plate his one one pitch and snacks point sits at the left blown out. Be caught at. Grevious. His third of the season with vaccine, the lead four to three. Whoa. Yeah. From Arizona sports ninety eight point seven FM now late in that game in everyone was aware of what happened on Sunday with Cody Bellinger fan running onto the field. This is what happened in the bottom of the eighth inning with Cody Bellinger out in the outfield and there's going to be a delay on the field. Baresi pootie Bill injure in right field. Young woman went out to try to meet him. And she was quickly escorted off, still one of the dumbest things anybody can do it a sporting that they go to jail for what? Tim never AM five seventy LA sports. So back to back days fans run on the field to get to balance your Bellinger, talked about that after the game had a feeling that it was definitely possibility just because kind of blew a social media, so yeah, I mean I'm just trying to play game. Yeah. Don't have to worry about who's gonna come on the field and whatnot response on it to stop. I mean, yeah, I think it could be dangerous on those innocent right now could be dangerous was Dave Roberts. The dodgers manager. It's one of the things that unfortunately you know, something like that happened yesterday. And it kind of gains momentum. And then it's kind of something that attract more people and the thing is that he just worry about Cody in the sense of something harmful gets in people's heads. So we really got to be mindful that and it's unfortunately he's got a now worry about people coming onto field at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees playing host to the Blue Jays and the did with the do. True. To you. His final adjustments. You wait. Just a little bit longer save. Sweet. Get a C for five okay? Three run over for Hicks. Michael Kay, and Paula Neil on the yes network, the Yankees, power manifesting, again, the Indians and the royals are tied to all bottom of the tenth inning. And this happened he fires kipness. The. Goes kane. Jay said kipness? Homerun. Sam sampler fifth. Watch off win their third feel the run Josh. It's your last week. So we'll give you this gift of giving the credit on that one. Yes. Tom Hamilton WTA AM eleven hundred love Tom. The day today was at Fenway park, a while one back and forth between the Red Sox and the White Sox. The White Sox led five to four in the bottom of the eighth inning in this happened. A right field and that's going to settle down privee said, JV around his throw by jail become off at a Red Sox have tied up. Dave O'Brien on Nessin in the bottom of the ninth inning, it was still tied five all Marco Hernandez at the plate Bri with a one zero pitch here comes swing. Grab all left side that can't Handerson wall. Dropped anyway of the Red Sox. Walk it all they win. Six five. Marco Hernandez with a game winner a walk off a runoff in this case, really as he had a ball that the short Andersen did. All they could he made a nice backhand staff through across his body. That from Joe Castiglione W e ninety three point seven FM. What's going on with the cardinals now that they won't have Jordan Hicks moving forward? And what the heck is going on with the Mets. Let's get you it. It's the Ravi train with Carl Ravitch. And the Rams express has been at the station now for a while Carl you. But tonight might be the last day last game in Omaha depending what happens to the college World Series. Michigan Vanderbilt Michigan. One last night. Vanderbilt gets to rocker pitching. Tonight's, what do you think? That's a good one. I kinda think that the way Michigan is playing and the looseness that they're playing with. They will provide a challenge for a guy that struck out nineteen if there were no hitter in the super regionals and MC really good pitching here in Omaha in rocker. This is the old throwback ver- Lander. You know, schilling K drew Martinez. Randy Johnson guy on the mound. He's the one that can slow down this express train if you will. He's a freshman, he's got great bloodlines dad was a terrific NFL player. He's kind of made for this moment, and it will help define a guy who probably in three or four years, I think will be a star at the major league level. But again hasn't really experienced like this, I think it's a test for him. I think I think Ville school runs. I also think the Vanderbilt offense is going to school runs regardless of what Michigan does with its. Shing, but I've just reminded being here. You saw kid a lefty last night. Tommy Henry who pitched great and he's not far from the major leagues. All that stuff that he throws plays up there you're watching JJ day. The Marlins hit a home run. You're just seeing guys that very soon we'll be there and we've seen that transition from, you know, drafting whether high school or college to a predominant college based draft and it's really, it's really Gribben home when you see guys like Henry, and like the day at, like Austin Martin, men, like this Kumar rocker tonight, it's a neat thing. I think it's close. I think Michigan has a has a real chance to to win tonight. There's also a chance that they throw four or five guys like we've seen the major league level with the rays and save the guy that's closed their games for them. His name's Jeff chriswell. He'll be a pitcher in the major leagues for game three if necessary or let him close game. Sue. If they have a lead, or there's the debate he threw last night, nine pitches. Does he start game too? So those are the things that are going on here, but the I think Michigan is a real challenge for Vanderbilt Michigan, one of the last four teams into the tournament and here they are one win away from winning their first title since nineteen sixty two. So it's cool really cool. It is really cool night now I mean, I'm bias because I went to Annabel or but yeah, but I but I've enjoyed watching these two teams and their two teams. And, and to me, you know, personally be more happy Vanderbilt wins. But at Michigan be terrific champion as well. So it'll, it'll be it seem to see plays out tonight. Carl the locked-in, I'll be sending Texas we go, as you know, this is Jasmac Reese last week on the show, and we're giving everybody take one last shot at him. You know, you can rip them you can complementing do whatever you want. What do you think? Well, I saw that I saw the thing he sent out on Twitter with his Michelob ultra hat. And then he said, maybe I'll go. For a run. And then I'll get a buzz. That's what you're supposed Michelob ultra Ravi. It's, it's beer for the active drought, interrupting now you're none of that stuff makes any sense. First of all, Michelob ultra is drinking water. You don't you don't run enough that you would then warrant enough Niccolo ultra to get Abe. The ACC network is hiring somebody that they deem responsible. And here you are talking about drinking. That's a problem. You have taken me happy train Ravi, express, in driven it into more mountains that. I don't even know how much anymore. It is time for macrey to move, and let's see what the next chapter brings. But BUSTER, to your credit and your undying dedication to this thing, you've kept it on the tracks and I'm comfortable knowing that moving forward. We will have smooth transition. Yeah. You know, I, I kind of like that I think you're right Carl this is like a roast format. He's not allowed to Santa thing. You keep the microphones away from Josh macrey when our guests speak so him years ago that was a big mistake, he's sort of third wheel guy. It's now feeling is oats thinks he should be, you know, big part of this thing. And that's, that's like drove havens away with all due respect to Sarah's on this. She really doesn't like having Baccari involved. But again, these are all he doesn't he doesn't need to know about. So I I'm sure he's listening, but he doesn't even know about these things. Okay. Josh got five seconds to respond. I'm giving up my commuter pass to the Rabbie express. Okay. We'll missing was like Josh, it's we we do and he works really hard. I'm glad for him. And for the ACC now we're getting they're getting a good one. Yeah. That's that's way too. Nice where we're gonna cut this conversation off right now. All right. Let's before we talk about the Mets messed, which seems to be recurring conversation every week here on the podcast. Let's talk about the most important news of yesterday. And that's what happened with the same. That was cardinals. They announced the Jordan Hicks is a torn UCLA. He's out for the year. You would assume at some point we're going to hear about how he's gonna have Tommy, John surgery. I asked Mike showed the cardinals manager about his status before the Sunday night game and Mike said luck based on the information. We have we don't think this is serious. They hadn't yet sent him for an imaging test. In fact, he told us at the medical staff was confident that they wouldn't have to do that. But obviously that changed. And now he's out for the rest of the year. First and foremost, if you're the cardinals you gotta go and get. Some help whether it's a Will Smith or some other relievers in the market. Yes, carl. Oh for sure. I mean when you see that just on the surface, yeah, they, they need to their, their dead without their dead without Georgia Tech. So look, there's a bunch of teams that are, and the Mets are one of them that are kind of floundering around here, and they may be willing to part with a closer at some point in the next, you know, next ten days to two weeks. So I think there will be somebody but yeah, you absolutely have to get closer bullpen short Jordan Hicks has has has had inconsistency. At best, you need a closer. I would agree a hundred percent and this to about this injury. It's amazing where we've come with high-velocity pitchers fifteen years ago of guy through ninety nine hundred. We get really excited and really fired up and talk about that pitchers future. And I gotta tell you Karl now when I see a pitcher throw a hundred two hundred three the way the Jordan Hicks through consistently. It makes me cringe. And I assume that this is a time bomb. And you're. Thinking there's no way physiologically that human beings are built to throw that hard and he just wait for the breakdown and it happens here. Yeah. I mean there does feel like there's an inevitability to it. I think if you take other sports, you know watching nineteen year old tiger. Woods swinger off you as a as a older person would look at that and say, at some point, the back is going to give out, you know, physiologically that's going to be impossible to maintain and obviously, he dealt with a ton of injuries including a back in the case of some twenty two euro throwing a hundred four miles an hour. You know, the bodies being pushed to a limit that it previously hadn't been pushed to. And when you make a living throwing a baseball as hard as you possibly can. Yeah. You do feel like that thing is gonna is gonna break soon. Now, the interesting part about Hicks is, as we all know a lot of times after Tommy, John, surgery, you actually come back, stronger, and throw it harder. So what does the possibility for a repaired, Jordan Hicks? Are we going to see? A hundred six hundred seven miles an hour. I mean, historically you tend to pick up a little velocity. So that part of it is going to be interesting. But yes there, there was an inevitability feeling about Jordan Hicks watching him throw and seeing that radar. Gun light up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hope when you say, could we see hundred six hundred seven I hope not I gotta tell you and I think your comparison. With folks, another sport is at. It is like watching a running back, you know, in college in first year in the NFL carry the ball, thirty five forty times he just waiting for the break down. And yes, that's nets what happened, Jordan Hicks. I wanna ask you about Cody Bellinger. And what's happened within the last couple of days fans running on the field, and giving him a Haagen any told reporters after the game last night that he almost assumed it was going to happen again that it would become a thing. And I don't blame him for being nervous about this. And I don't know how exactly fix it. Carl this might be a situation where it wouldn't be the w-. First thing in the world. If one of these people runs on the field gets a week in jail if some team absolutely throws a book at them to try to create some sort of deterrent. Because I tell you what. And I've had players tell me this is that when somebody runs on the field they're nervous because they don't know exactly what the ten of that person is, are they going to pull something out of their pocket or they coming at them trying to injure them? Or are they gonna pretend that they're going to hug them? I understand, Cody bellinger's concern. To me. This is a simple one. You, you have the public address announcer. At whatever stadium you're at announced before the game immediately before the game any fan running on the field will be permanently banned from the stadium meeting the rest of your life. And whether it's somebody who's there for a for a just watching, I love, Cody Bellinger, or there's a radio show that's putting somebody up to doing it which is happened before. But sure in sports, similar to Monica Sela situation. It, it can get dangerous. I, I also think it's very easy. And I think Dave Roberts alluded to it. You add extra security. You can you can't afford to pay to security people to sit, you know, right on that right field line. And, or in the right field corner. So if somebody comes over the wall, and the outfield they intercept somebody, and they do it with with intent to make sure that person does not get. To Cody bellinger's. So there can be some type of forceful tackle. So, I think in announcement, I think added security that completely understand what you're saying. And this, this is where you get into that. Fine line of you know, access to players. Whether it be the tennis tour, the golf tour where they are just ropes that are preventing fans from running out and interacting with the player and it can become a thing. We, we saw with, you know, the heat to date ourselves. But more data the kissing bandit it became a real funny thing where she would run on the field runs. The pitcher's mound give a kiss to the to the pitcher, and then sort of run off or escorted off. In this case, you know, it feels like societies, a little bit different than everybody wants their, their moment. And their moment is now glorified on social media. So it's not just something that the local news might show now it can quickly become a viral thing and, and look, he's, he's aware of social media Belen. Earlier in that market has anybody is. And I think he's absolutely right. I do think there are ways to prevent it. I don't think there's a hundred percent foolproof way to prevent it. But I do think he's justified in his concern. And, and I hope it doesn't become a thing. But I, I would hope that the threat of being permanently banned from a particular stadium would would be a deterrent enough. And that's and that's fortified by extra security. All right. Let's talk about the match, you know what happened in Chicago on Sunday. Mickey Callaway after reporter Tim Healy of Newsday said something that set off Mickey Callaway yelled, Adam a couple times, and eventually, Jason Vargas who staring at Tim Healy attempted to go after him. He had to be restrained by teammates, the Mets announced on Sunday evening, basically their disapproval of what happened according to sources and the Mets do have a lot of sources Karl. Both Calloway in Vargas, fined ten thousand dollars a piece. Let's go layer by layer with this. We'll start with Jason Vargas spoke with reporters yesterday sort of it addressing the situation give, listen. Yesterday that fortunate to all parties unfortunate distraction Phillies play team, the dresses, situation organizations statement and. That's really all there. So thanks for taking your time, and we'll see again. Again. Yeah. Put this in the category of, I'm gonna stand in front of cameras. I'm gonna move my lip sound will come out of my mouth and that will enable me to walk away and say, dressed it. Carl, what do you think? Well, I mean that the whole thing is been a disaster. But you describe it as a fortunate situation. If there's nothing fortunate about it never had to happen. Unfortunate situation is you know, when it rains on your wedding day, that's an unfortunate situation. This is a situation that was created. And, you know, I'm not defending our but look, he's now talking to group of people who clearly are siding with the reporter, so you're, you're in enemy territory when you're out there with microphones face. And I think right away, you know, like a porcupine you get your needles your back and, and nothing nothing that you seem prepared to say it's sound sincere and nothing. He, he did say they're sounded like they were sorry about unfortunate situation is sort of a way to avoid what really is going on. You just throw that label up there. There's there's nothing unfortunate about that situation. That was created again and unfortunate situations where you got a flat. Fire on a long road trip. That's unfortunate. It's not something you created. And this is something that, that was created by by Nikki Calloway, and certainly Vargas. And I think we've all been around sports long enough to recognize even as Mickey Senate. I agree with you know, we, we all we all clay with an age. We don't like what things going lousy we get defensive, somebody looks us the wrong way or says something that we perceive to be, you know, inflammatory it's gonna hit the fan. And in this case it hit the fan. And the problem is it, it keeps hitting the fan because they, they seemingly can't get out of their own way when it comes to how to apologize, and that's a hard thing for some people to do apologize. Yeah. We'll get to make you send a second disa- quick follow on that. I wanna make clear everybody this what happened in the Mets clubhouse after the game on Sunday is incredibly unusual in my thirty years of covering the sport. I look, I've had a lot of people. You know, players managers front office, people commissioners union lawyers upset with something I wrote and they will call you and sometimes it'll get salty and sometimes it'll be profane. But it's one on one, I can only remember a small handful of situations in which a player m a reporter in the clubhouse setting can confronted them in that way. I've never had a player physically confront me in the way that we heard about what happened would Jason Vargas. At one time, thought, I'll do k was gonna physically confront me, maybe another day. He'll tell the story, you know, Duquesne I have laughed about it, but I was never confronted in that way. What about you Carl? I haven't making that certainly been made to feel uncomfortable. But I'll be honest. I think I think the writers where there tend to be, you know, literally indelible stories written that they can call up or read, oftentimes television BUSTER, somebody will come up to you and say, I heard, you said this, and there's opportunity to either clarify, what was said or clear it up. I think in the writers taste, especially, historically, they can bring an article in they can cite the words that were used and m-. It's not just hearsay. There's, there's some words that they deem inflammatory and then they can confront you. I've definitely had people look at us. I think sometimes there's guilt by association, which is my point about the pool of reporters who were asking Vargas questions or expecting an apology is that is that they all are we all get lumps together. And if. Somebody on say sportscenter is saying something negative about a player or a team. I know we've been looked at I've been looked at as well. You're part of ESPN, or you're part of what that guy said or that woman said, and you have to cut to diffuse the situation by say, well, wait a second, you know, there's, there's there are different people, it's not just one collective group. And that's why I brought up the idea that sitting in front of her standing in front of those microphones in a sense you collectively are the enemy here. You understand that you, you're on our turf? You're in our clubhouse where playing we're playing like crap right now, you're saying things that aren't necessarily favorable to us, not remembering any of the favorable things you've said about us, and now on pissed off. And if you're gonna if you're gonna challenge my manager, I'm defending my manager because he's defended me. So again, there is no defense for what happened. But there are certainly aspects of it that you. Can you can if you understand it? See how it happens. All right. Now, let's get to Mickey Callaway when he met with reporters the first time yesterday. He never actually said that he was sorry and that, that was bad around on talk radio in New York. They talked about it on s and y the Mets station. And then Mickey Callaway later called reporters back give listen to his second run, it speaking with reporters, which, again is very unusual. This real quick. You know, I understand that I get some feedback that, you know, that wanted you to know that in my, my meeting with Tim, I apologize for my reaction. It shouldn't regret it. I regret the, you know the distraction. It's cost to the team. And, you know, like I said earlier, something that will learn from. So, you know, it's something I'm not proud on proud of the distraction. I'm not proud of what I what I did to him, you know, so for that I'm definitely sorry. Yeah. Carl, I think this is a case. Mickey Calloway was comp-. Petted when he was I asked about he wouldn't use the word. I apologize or wouldn't use that phrase early on to me, kind of reminded me of dog having his no-show, shoved in his own poop, he didn't like it initially, he didn't wanna utter those words he should have. But, you know, this is where we are with, with the Mets with Mickey Callaway. What do you think? I think one of the great American bands of all time, Chicago, Chicago. Sixteen hard to say, I'm sorry. There is a difficulty for people in, in taking accountability for their actions and unsalaried or too hard words, for many people to say, and in this case, that, that was the that was the I need you to go into the classroom and explain to your teacher. What happened? Hey, mommy. I, I went in and I and I told, you know, I told Dr Watson, what happened. Oh, really? What did you say? Well, I you know, I I said I wasn't feeling well well that's not what happened today. You'll go back in and you'll explain exactly what happened. Mickey Callaway was told that wasn't really what was supposed to happen. You will now go back out there and explain to the class that you're actually sorry, and that's, that's a tough pill swallow, there's a hell of a lot of pride going on here. And there's a hell of a lot of, hey, aren't you supposed to be supporting me? And figure the dynamic that's been set up here. You have, you know, you have a front office and ownership and a team and Commissioner's office, who are trying to be respectful of the media, and they, they deserve the same respect that the player gets that is that's they work environment. You know, and unfortunately go behind the curtain a little bit. It's why now so many major league teams have set up club houses, where players are never accessible, never accessible, and it's, it's changed so much that you could go into a clubhouse at three or four in the afternoon before a game at seven and see nobody and that wasn't the way it was, you know, years ago. And now it is because there's this, there's this seemingly, distrust that's been created as well as a pain in the ass part of this job that I don't want to deal with. And now you're looking at a front office. He's saying you gotta go out there and apologize, really. I mean, do you understand what's happening here is if I'm Nikki Calloway. You understand. And that, that what he said, you know, was was if it was sarcastic it shouldn't it shouldn't be tolerated, and I'm doing my job, and I need your support, and you're not giving me the sport. You're telling me to go out there and say, I'm sorry. It's a it's a tail between the legs moment it and it and it sucks. But he failed the first time to say, I'm sorry like listen to the cog or song hard, Sam sorry. Yup. No doubt about it. And then you know as this was playing out yesterday afternoon. I began to work on a story got some stuff from some sources about how during games the Mets leadership has dictated pitching decisions through the Mets support staff on multiple occasions, and I was actually close to sending in and then the New York Post Mike poma broke the story last night, he had some more specific information that I had specifically writing about a game against the Diamondbacks ticket the grandma's pitching and according to the New York Post Brodie van wagon incent. Word through the trainer to get out of the game. Degrom is you remember was not happy about being taken out of the game. There was some surprise afterward about why this decision took place. Now Brody was asked after the game about the idea of the Mets leadership, dictating decisions to the manager to the coaching staff during the course of the game, his quote was no in game decisions are ever called down to the dugout. We're not allowed to communicate with Mickey coaching staff during games, and we're not doing that and Carl, I'll say flat out. No one reported that the Mets leadership was calling down to the dugout. What has been reported is, is that these dictators have come through the Mets support staff, that has not overtly been denied by Brody, look, you, and I, both know is that his time has gone on. And we've gone into the Sarava analytics there, so much feedback from the front officers so much information, given then come up with a pre game plan for everything from the lineup to the pitching. Possible decisions in game and the game starts generally speaking, the managers are left to make their own decisions in games. And you see actually front offices in the manager meeting after games to review with the manager is done to have engaged decisions dictated is highly unusual. And I confirm that again with folks around baseball last night like now that, that's a line that you don't see crossed but that's where we are. And look, I think this totally undercuts. Mickey Callaway, it makes them look look at complete poppet now that folks in the organization and they have been aware of it, that it makes him look completely week in this situation, which is part of the reason why this can't happen this way. What do you think? I think it's going to continue to happen. I, I don't even think there's a line now between manager and son office. I think it's a collective group. Think I think managers frustrated by it. I certainly don't think there there should be a direct line between office and manager during time of of game. But, you know, I think if you look at our own industry, when we are doing what we're doing. We wear earpieces. We have IFE's we have we have direct communication, with people in the truck, which means we have direct communication with those that are, you know, that are making decisions that we're not really making, and they may say don't say that or you really wanna check that before you say or hey, you don't look good or you're you know, you're going down a path. You shouldn't go down. So stop doing it. It would almost be like the pitching coach or the manager has an ISP and. Ear that that's, that's how close I think we're getting to having the front office folks, you know, get involved with or dictate decisions. And look, I know all the managers you know, would dispute that and I don't think it's to that degree in game. But clearly the relationship between front office and manager has changed dramatically such that the decisions that dusty Baker, and Buck Showalter and Bruce bocce early on in his career and even Terry Francona early on his career. We're probably more independent than they are. They were more independent than they are. Now. I don't think we've gotten to the point where there are, quote unquote, three managers or two managers, meaning president of baseball operations or GM and manager. But we're, we're definitely getting closer to that. And I'm not certain that it doesn't doesn't ever get to that point, it may. And I think there's a. Group of managers who are, you know, kind of defending their hill and their territory. And once the first pictures, thrown this is my game and this isn't the first example of, of well it is your game. But it's, it's not there's ways we can get messages down to managers and some prominent general managers, and our team, presidents have been accused of similar things, you know and, and while they have similar interests in winning the game you know, you may have a front office, who has who have other interests in the back of their minds health of player trade and -bility of player, don't wanna put that player in a position where his value is going to be diminished, because we may have an asset here that we don't wanna have become a liability. A lot of factors go into this, but the bigger issue is that, that line continues to be blurred. And I think we've all heard general managers in front office folks imply that. Is that the manager's role has changed very dramatically? And I think it's only going to continue to do that. Yeah. And I think that moving forward, I, I would agree with you. I do think that if you're in Micky, Calloway's position, orpheum, Brodie van wagons position. And you have meddling from your boss to a degree where it affects you and affects the perception of you. I think you have to push back and I'm gonna write a piece on ESPN dot com. It'll be posted later today about that because there's no question you and I've talked about this before the Mets organization. Cultura blame this happened again yesterday. It makes me laugh every time I see it Carl. There have been at least four instances in which the beat writers cover the team at tweeted out almost simultaneously. Mickey is not being fired today. Making is not being fired today. Think about the craziness of that dynamic, because you and I, both know that in the Mets organization, only two to three people have knowledge of that, so you would assume it probably comes from one of those sources, and the idea that anybody would hang out there with twist in the wind under head kind of. Speculation. We saw it happen day after day after day with Terry Collins. That's unworkable. And I think that we have to keep in mind that big picture that, that culture of change can only be altered by Fred and Jeff wilpon. No, I, I would I would not argue with that, and I think that I think the Mets with their with their addition of Brody you know, would probably look at Mickey right now. And think that some of the decisions, he's made he, he wouldn't great out the way that they wanted him to be graded out. They were flashes early on and things have gone south and all of a sudden, the fingers begin to point I agree with what you're saying. I think with regard to the premise of your article, though, I think the word meddling is an interesting one. I think if you, if you canvassed front office, folks, that meddling may have been the word that that would have been used as I said, you know, ten fifteen maybe even as early as five years ago, I don't think that there are many people or there are some people who look at what they do and their input into this, and maybe it's minute by minute. Maybe it's pre game. Maybe it's post game but meddling has a connotation of negativity, like wait a minute. You're, you're, you're involved. In things you shouldn't be involved in. And I think I think the culture affront offices is changing, so that the point of med wing is sh should be. Redefined we're not meddling, we're collaborating. That's what we're doing. You know, we, we think that having six different is on this, or three different opinions is, is better than having one. And I think the idea that we're meddling is an interesting. I think it's an interesting article but I would think you'd find people who would say, whoa, whoa, you understand how this works now where where are sort of where a three headed monster. We go from ownership to front office to manager to player, and we are all in line with each other just because the game started doesn't mean that, you know, manager has, has more thority than than we do to at least provide input. If we want to draw the line on manager makes the final decision. Okay. But why are we leaving in game decisions up to just manager? When we all have acknowledged, we're in this together way more than we once were and again, I'm not suggesting that, that is the right way to do it. I think the culture of today, that is the way that they are thinking about it. So, I think meddling is a word that would be challenged by certain people. Yeah. And I think the reason why think it's applicable in this case, because Mickey Callaway for questions about his managerial decisions. He's more qualified to make in game decisions than Brodie van, Wagoner Jeff wilpon, and I think especially pitch somebody benefits. Yeah. Especially about pitchy. That is his background. But that doesn't mean that the other people think he's more qualified will they get rid of him. Right. Then go get somebody, you think is qualified, that's and that's where we are with the Mets. All right. Carl. We'll have fun tonight as they say, all be watching. I'll be texting good to be with you BUSTER macrey get outta here already gone. Carl. Yup. We'll be back in a moment with Sarah Lang's, but I, I wanna tell you about ZipRecruiter hiring is challenging. But there's one place you can go were hiring a simple fast and smart, a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates that place is employed. Cruder dot com slash BUSTER. Ziprecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. Ziprecruiter, send your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards. But they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invites them to apply to your job as applications. Come in. Ziprecruiter analyzes each one in spotlights, the top candidates. So you never miss a great match ZipRecruiter. So that four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate through the site within the first day. And right now, my listeners can try ZipRecruiter for free at this exclusive web address that ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. That's. Ziprecruiter dot com slash B. U. S. T. E R ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire numbers. Sarah Lang's is a reporter and producer for MLB dot com. Sarah before we get started everyone's paying tribute to Josh, you can rip him if you want. But we got the news from Josh recently, this is it. What do you think I think that we need to find a way to make him cry on air? That's my goal. I you know, potentially get started today, but I really, really want to get the waterworks going on Thursday. So that's kind of what I'm going to be thinking about over the next two days. And I'm open to any other old Destin. I was gonna say, don't spoil it. Sarah, don't spoil. It was still to go. I times. Yeah. I've done that a few times, my interview process, and so I'm gonna have to think about that. But here's the thing, I don't know of. Joshes precondition Cryer Josh the moment has to be right. I'm not too proud to cry for sure. I'm in touch with my emotions your wedding. Yes. I did actually so, so potential it can be done. It can be done, but it has to be a good effort. I I'm ready to bring the good effort. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not dick for meal over here. I'm not gonna cry because like we had a bad practice, but it happens. Good practice. Exactly. Yeah. That's what we're looking for that type of Cryer. I mean, we saw Albert pools the other night doesn't show. He got some emotion came out from him. So I don't know. That's a good idea. Sara, I'm gonna have to think about that. Let's play the numbers game. Number three. Number three is five last night Clayton Kershaw. Allowed the fifth home run of his career to a pitcher, including the postseason to that grant key Grank grantee joins Brandon Woodruff in the NFC last year. Tyson, Ross and Madison Bumgarner as pitcher Homer off of Kershaw and Bumgarner has two runs off of him five runs to pitchers. Kind of sounds like a lot for the best pitcher of the generation. But I thought this is really interesting. He's never done at home, who Dodger Stadium crowd has never had to see Clayton Kershaw standing there, while a pitch around the basis and for grantee Kershaw is the second Cy Young winner. That he's homered off of along with closely and Elias tells us that he and Don Drysdale are the only pitchers with homers off multiple Cy. Young winners. Number two, number two eighty one in Carlos Stanton hit his first Homer of the season for the Yankees last night. And it was a typical stint, Tony and blast. It had a one hundred eleven point one mile an hour as velocity. That's his eighty first home. Run hit with at least a one ten mile an hour exit Boissier tracked by stat cast since twenty fifteen and we're including the playoffs. This one in that same span. Nobody else in the majors has more than forty nine hundred ten mile an hour home runs only five teams have hit eighty one or more of those home runs and the reds have the fewest among all team with just seventeen. Number one, number one is twenty seven. So it was Aaron chicks Homer run last night. Not that sent one. That was the first of the night extending their home run streak to twenty seven straight games. That's ties with the oh to Rangers for the longest streak in. MLB history. The Rangers hit fifty five home runs during that twenty seven game stret-. The have hit just forty seven which is so lot. The ranger streak ended on September tenth two thousand two against the Mariners. Joel Pineiro started in the Mariners and allowed three runs, but no home runs over seven, plus ending and then Arthur Rhodes came in and finished. It off scoreless. The Rangers did have three extra base hits a double from Yvan Rodriguez, and two from Herbert Perry, but no home run. So we'll see what is in store for the anxious tonight. All right. For very mediocre team. The Mets seem to generate a lot of information. A lot of attention. A lot of stories they're your favorite team. That's well established on the podcast working on a calm. I think it's gonna be posted later today on ESPN dot com about how I think that Mickey Callaway and Brodie van wagon if they're going to be viable, and not just survive. But to be viable that they have to push back against the meddling that goes on within this organization. You know what was reported by the New York Post to myself last night, about pitching decisions being dictated through support staff, Mickey Callaway can't let that happen. Because now everyone in the clubhouse is been well aware of this dynamic, and it basically makes him look like a puppet. And that's part of the reason, why if I'm Mickey Callaway, I'm telling Brody people above me. Don't do that, again if you do it again. I'm going to ignore it. And if you've got a fire me than fire me. And I feel like the same would be true for Brody. If in fact, he's getting day-to-day pushback from Jeff wilpon, and Jeff is tell him to do things. He needs to stand up to him to be viable. What do you think? Yeah. I think that makes a lot of sense. And to your point of the puppet, I mean, the first thing, I think of with this is just that there's feels like there is so much going on behind the scenes. And there's so many string being pulled that we don't even see those invisible ones on those puppets marionnettes, and that's sort of what I feel like is going on here where even though we know about, you know, incident that happened and, you know, these reports of maybe text, or whatever it was that start for degrom in Arizona and whatever else like we don't even know even half the story of what's going on here. And that's what's really I think concerning for both of their jobs in a way because it's, it's really hard to do your job with that kind of pressure. And especially when the whole story is out there. It's hard to deal with public perception, as well. You know there's going to be a lot. Digging on this type of stuff as we move forward. They're going to be more stories. Sarah, thanks for doing this. Thanks for having me about their high Fuster only here and my friends at marathon or really helping you save. 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More and more from people within the game that they don't like the current product that they don't like all the strikeouts and all the walks in all the home runs. Yeah. J B is next JB's at pit boss racing and says, am I guilty of recency bias or is this year's group of rookies better than any we've ever seen? You've got Alonso shave his paddock in Guerrero and many more already killing it at the big league level has there ever been a class as strong as this one. I thought you were gonna throw in the last line that J B had their job. He said, thanks, Josh Lewin missing. I'm trying. I'm trying not to make this self so that I mean it's all about you, when we're putting the these believe him, I omitted you wanted to you just laid it out there for me wondering if I'd follow up and get you compliment look. Yeah. I mean it feels like as sport gets younger and younger, the rookie classes continue to have a growing impact in the sport. I don't think there's any question about, I'm not ready to say this is the best rookie class ever. But I am going to say rookies are having a huge dent their denting the game like we haven't seen before, Johnny la- master is my hero is at is Lemass ter-, says BUSTER. There's lots of talk about the giants trading mad bums Smith and hopefully some other pitchers. But we'll any giants position players draw the attention that those pitchers have before the deadline if so who Johnny? I've asked that question. The answer is no. Like the giants could try to dump the contracts guys like Brandon belt Brandon Crawford. But they would have to eat a lot of money, and they'd basically get nothing in return there. There is not interest in the group of position players that the giants have right now. Connor is at Glick. Connor has a really cool question for you. Buster wants to know. What's one moment in baseball history that you witnessed in will remember for the rest of your life? And what's the rest of the note of the rest of his note, says thanks for being a great podcast, producer job? But I left that out again, because I'm not here for that kind of kind of that, you know, that I'm gonna ask you to read the whole believes June to leave -able year left it in their incredible. Cal Ripken, breaking Lou Gehrig's record. That was really cool. That's a good one. Yeah. And I mean I said yesterday that, you know, Cal Ripken break the record would probably be number one for me. And what I saw on Saint Louis over the weekend with Albert pools cardinals fans probably. Would be number two. That's really cool. Absolutely great question Connor. And finally, Matt Benson's this is why I was trying to leave out the self-serving tweets before. Because this way totally self serving Matt at Saint Louis. Cards, UK wants to know if the reason I'm leaving the podcast is because I've run out of original morning caps. Perhaps. Yes. I mean you. Yeah. You think of the reason people go to different opportunities. Whether it's a new challenge, more money, better location. The real reason, is that they run out of hats for their morning videos. You're onto Matt good. Good. Detective work there and good. He's everybody. Go ahead. Let me cut in here. I gotta have to cut it here. This is definitely leverage play. I've not independently confirmed that you have another position waiting for you. Now, I do wonder you know, are you just threatening to leave now until our listener send you morning? Here's the thing three and a half days left. If I get ten more hats, now Friday morning, I might have to renegotiate my new deal with the ACC network. Don't make the same state read a banana did okay? Lay that out there. Good point. Good point. I'm leaving. I'm leaving trains, leaving keep the tweets coming though use hashtag Belichick. That's it for today. My thanks to Syra Lang's to curl Ravitch into the Mets for giving us so much content. 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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 709  Wild Waiver Weekend

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 709 Wild Waiver Weekend

"Seven oh nine of the sleeper, in the bust. It is Monday June twenty fourth. I'm heroes pulse. Board joined by Justice. Mason, just on what's going on, man. It's january. No. Thankfully, not. Life is life man. I'm looking forward to go on a vacation. I'm supposed to leave tonight, but we'll see if that happens got some other stuff going on. So, yeah. Looking forward to getting away. No baseball for me for God like seven days. So that's going to be that'll be interesting. I'll go through withdrawals. I was gonna say you looking forward shish? I'm looking forward to just getting away from work and responsibility and stuff like that. The vacation with two kids isn't really getting away from responsibilities. What would be nice and listen, not complaining my job. Love it. It's fun. It's awesome. Just be inches. Be kinda cool to have like a week or this absorb baseball, and I don't really think beyond that, not like, oh, what article gonna write about that. Or how am I gonna talk about it here just like absorbed, but, you know, which which owes this and again, it's pretty great to be able to do about a life. We got lots of good stuff to talk about a lot of it's. Waiver based and stuff like that. Whereas ended up being a pretty big waiver period yesterday, lots of news coming out. We're actually going to start with the big closer news section, and then get into some of the pickups. What was paid for them? If he got any of them, some of its some review from some guys discuss like the Marlins just maybe see what they went for in your league. It'd be them same with kind of the Ross stripling Orioles thing because we did Gus the Marlins and those two dodgers with Ariel Cohen. And then Nick and I went even deeper on the Marlins. I don't want to go too much there. But let's start with some closer news. And the latest news, the most breaking news is a torn UC L for Jordan Hicks, which is bad. It's definitely not good in anyway, perform, and obviously, it looks like Tommy, John surgery could be on the docket forum. You know, we hear about this, a lot about how long guys have torn you see out, but it's a matter of how much it's on this one seems bad, though. I don't know that this. They're gonna come off Scot free with this one in any way, shape or form. So where yet on Jordan Hicks right now, and then we'll get into potential replacements. Namely, John Gant. And maybe even Andrew Miller. Yes, this huge bummer, especially for me, because like the one league or one of the league's those doing really well in. He was one of my real nice pieces in my bullpens gonna mix this with some other unfortunate closer news. And I think teams are going to be struggling quite a bit. I mean obviously, this shelves him most likely even if they do the rest in rehab, route, you would have to think this shelves him for at least two months. So I mean it's, it's, it's a massive blow. There's just there's just no way. So. So obviously, they're going to turn to someone else. It looks like Jon, Gant right now. But. I mean I feel like this is a really good opportunity for them to just make Carlos Martinez the closer. So I know the transitioning back into the rotation that I don't know. I don't know. I think I think they should try to make him a starter. But at this point you know they've got five usable starters in that rotation. So why not just put Martinez in the ninth let him dominates there? It's quite a mess. I think going out right now. I think a lot of people spent a lot of money on fat involve on guys like John Gant last night. This is a team that could easily go out and purchase a closer from another team via trade. I could see that, but it doesn't look like it's going to be Martinez. I mean Gant. I believe there's been some, some pretty, you know, relatively firm talk as firms closer chatter ever, is that Gaunt's going to be the guy? I know that he got in yesterday. And it didn't really go well, but I mean you know, that's not that's not something that we're going to freak out over just because it happened, right? As, as Jordan Hicks was getting her. But yeah, I think he has adverse has for a lot of people went with it. What about Andrew Miller? I mean, I, I guess they could they've given the given the money so they don't really have a replacement lefty in the back end of that bullpen. So I wonder if that kind of stops them from wanting to mess around with Miller in the. In the role, full time, but I guess he probably could get mixed and matched in the ninth. I just feel like Gantt isn't going to be the long term solution. I think they're gonna go at with someone else, whether it be via trade or Carlos Martinez at some point. So I, I'm just I wasn't willing to invest a ton of money in John Gant in the same way that I was willing to do it in another guy. We're about to talk about. Yeah. Gant, by the way, just quickly, forty-one innings really strong work sixteen percents strikeout, minus walk rate buoyed by twenty four percent strikeout rate, and that, that has been back to back years now of strikeout rate, or swinging strike booze should say up to thirteen percent this year. Everything looks great. I mean he's certainly fits the role got the fastball up to ninety six. So everything's there for gain if they want to go with him. I'd like to see Carlos Martinez. Get into a more fantasy relevant role weather. It is as the starter or closer. But I'm suspect right now, let's move onto the next move here. Blake trying heading to the I L, and I don't bins the door for Liam Hendriks another one that pretty firmly, I think this was out of Bob Melvin mouth even saying, hey, it's gonna be it's gonna be Hendrix for the foreseeable future right now by the right shoulder. Strain is what sent trying in to the I L. So Hendrix is going to be the guy and he was pretty heavily bid upon last night. Unsurprising. What do you think of Hendrix in Oakland? A lot of money on him in a lot of different places. So spent one hundred seventy nine dollars on him in a league where I am. Really struggling for saves. I had drafted Trevor may in criminal as my closers in TJ FBI. So I think I've got like a total of six saves this far. I can't figure out TGIF BI or even really detailed online, like. The backups make no sense. I mean you were you were a hundred bucks clear of the next person. By the yeah. The other two people who bid over one hundred their backups weren't close. Hell even the ones that were just under a hundred ninety five eighty they had twenty seven and thirty seven respectively. It's, it's just it's weird man. And this is not an isolated incident at all. Especially when you get into the online, and I've talked about it all year about. My frustration or just, you know, I- others are experiencing, it more NFC longer term veterans are saying the same things I don't think I'm just out of bounds or something that I just don't get 'cause I'm relatively new to the format just for the last couple years, but the twelve team, and there is just like no rhyme or reason, and it's frustrating because I feel like well this players wore this. He's really good. And then I put like a substantial bid on them. And then the backup is four dollars or something. And I put, you know, ninety two dollars on because I thought that's what he is worth. I mean you go look at a guy we're going to briefly hit on that gallon in the wealth. Teamers you go look at these backup IDs, they are nowhere near the winners. None of these bids are optimized the closest one as far as a high dollar optimization would be one seventy one against one fifty seven or the one ninety seven against one, sixty two. Otherwise you've got a button. Load of triple digits with double digits and sometimes single digits in my wrote wire online championship started veer off on design gallon. He was unopposed really unopposed. But anyway, I think I think one of the things were starting to see is people start to really check out for sure. And by the way, I could've kept topical in my bro- championship. So was Liam Hendriks now? I didn't need a cause. Why, why, why did you get them all? They need a closer. So that's why I wasn't in the Hendrix thing. And I had Ross stripling a higher priority than that, gallon. So I wasn't. I wasn't in on that either, but it's crazy that those both went on opposed like that's insane. And the guy put over one hundred bucks on both. So he's probably kicking himself. Like what the break, you know, this is insane. So I know you're right about the checkout stuff, although I've been experiencing this for the last. Month, plus at least as far as the twelve team goes. It's very bizarre. And again, I know taking us off on a path, but as far as Hendricks goes, I guess, more importantly, where do you think trying to going to be here with the shoulder strain, how long, do you think this is going to be with a rotator cuff strain? This is something that's going to be a long-term scenario. I mean trying for what he's done hasn't been that great this year for eighty or eighty one, fifty three whip does have the sixteen saves but he's been a far cry from what he was last year. What do you think training's outlook is which would then kind of parlay into what you think? Hendrix, looks like longterm. Originally, it was reported as a shoulder strain on, then it's been kind of clarified as a rotator cuff issue, which is much more scary for me. Those are the kind of things that tend to leave people out for longer. I've, I think right now for the most part, people are just guessing it with the timetables, going to be I've seen. Some people say like two to six weeks. I'm really afraid that this turns into something greater he's really struggled this year and suppose have been dealing with zoo for a while now. And Hendrix to me, seemed like the clear number or clear, like guy was going to step up and take that role. And so I was willing to just go all out on, on Hendrix, this fab. This fabulous. Bummer for me. 'cause I've got trying in the second chance leagues. But yeah, I'm I'm very nervous about this. Understandably. So and again, you add in, I think there was some tendonitis earlier to I wanna stay elbow. So that's couple issues there. And then, like I said the results for trying simply haven't been that great. He's really kind of fallen back to his Washington days as far as performance. He really just, you know, the walks are way up the strike outs are still one printing basically thirty six and thirty five and a third, you'll take that, but it really hasn't been that great. And that's that's unfortunate. I think. And this was something that I really want to be mindful of when I was in drafts of, like. Closer rankings are still a problem because we just take the best guys last year in automatic, we bump them up, and like I understood why they was love for Diaz in training. And I put them top two. So this is not like a told you. So, but then I didn't draft I passed on them, I was willing to let folks open the door with the closers, then get in on now. Listen as far as skills, and Wendy as has been fantastic, you have reasonably perhaps that the Aaron whip can come down with him and trying to, you know, it's been mostly health. So who knows what he would have been if he'd been healthy all year, but I don't know man, just seems like you know, Kirby gates is going to be top to guy next year, and it's like, well, should we automatically bump him up. I don't have. That's the answers. But I do think there's some flaws in how we rank those IRS year to year. Just don't know what the solution is in terms of finger out a better system for that. Because just stick with the guys that have, I guess, just go to track then, because I was more interested in the Janssen Osuna even chap. In the price, it's less about, I would've taken if push comes to shove that I think I would have taken them first. I wouldn't have done that. And D as Diaz more than like I love trying to night, and I was so excited with what he did last year. But I mean it was one year for thirty one and a half years though. Right. Because he was even like some of the established guys had, like big words to had some more Janssen's velocity Chapman, dealing with an issue coming on Janssen's Hart, being something concern over. But the AUSSIE, I, I want, I mean, that was the will blip at the beginning of last year. And then you barely notice. Some people probably don't even remember when you brought it up right now there. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Now by the end of it. He was excellent. So you're right. I mean, they all have their wards, I guess you just kinda guys Eli pulled shoes from these special with concrete short short. Yeah. It's really getting less and less to. So that makes it even more complicated and we'll see how it goes. But we do have even more closer news here. Tampa Bay's closer role is kind of up in the air right now because those Alvarado's still on leave dealing with some situation with the family back in Venezuela. He did throw a bullpen port Charlotte. So things back in the states. I don't know if it was like a temporary thing to kind of come check in with the club. They've been amenable to him handling his family situation. So hopefully, everything's going all right there for him. But he's been out for a while. So Diego Casteel, was there doing his thing. But now he's on the I L so that opens the door for an Amelia Pagon to come in and still more saves memory that big three save week. And then people went off scooping him. I mean he's still been. Excellent. Here's a want three area pointed to whip thirty six strikeouts. Twenty nine and a third innings. He's been awesome. He can handle it. It looks like for Melia gun. Remember they were right there in the Craig kimbrel situation. So they'll, obviously, get Casteel and Varotto back at some point. But how are you handling the situation Tampa Bay right now which is already rife with uncertainty when they have all their guys? Is it still that way? Now that they've eliminated two or does that just mean Chas Roe, and, like, I don't know, Adam caloric now going to be in the mixed steal some as well with maybe gun being the top choice, and then those other two can be the choices behind him. I, I don't know what you think of Tampa Bay closer situation. I mean, I think big on is probably going to get the fair amount of saves or the, the lion share of things for the near future, obviously that could change if and when kiss DO comes back healthy Alvarado's ready to return. But I do think they will probably mix and match because if we've seen anything from the raise, they hate our fancy teams and they're not for sure they don't they don't care about. They just don't care. And so, yeah, I would not be surprised to see row or posh, or bring up as a coach Colin. Remember how it's pronounced but. Column posh or poach CHP. He gets it over a cleric, as the lefty. I would I would say so he's a strike out guy. He had forty eight twenty seven innings at triple eight this year before. Coming up. He's already got eleven in his nine innings. He had a buck ten in sixty six innings last year across double AAA with just nineteen walks too. So it's not like he just throws it all over the joint and, and, you know, they don't know where it's going, and so they swing at it. So common poach. That's an interesting one there. And I agree with you that he would be placed in the hierarchy over cleric, as far as like two lefties in a righty coming up. Maybe tell a gun, you know, we're gonna go to the left ear because we got two of them there. So maybe he's kind of the sneak pickup, Colin poach, and even if he doesn't really get saves you could get some strikeouts while you're waiting to see how that plays out. I think that's a good play. This is a way to especially if you don't have a lot of five or your about that. I know like in the main event, I just dropped eighty one dollars on gallon and then eighty one dollars on Hendricks. And so on down to my under a hundred bucks for the rest of the season I am bro. At now here's the thing. Lot of you're going broke. And prices are coming down, and I think I need to make that adjustment because even on some of the scrubs that put like six on, I think that those prices are now like three or two. I'm not spending more than just a couple bucks here. And there on guys that aren't super impact. I think you've got you've got a really, really readjust the way you approach fab rest the way, especially in these leagues. Where is much as I know, like for me, like I've just a few few bucks here and there in most of my leagues there are leagues where I've got a ton of money or other people have a ton of money. And so. You're just going to have to realize in those leagues that you have to put in a ton of FAO bids to make sure you're getting guys and you're not dealing with eggs in one basket. Yeah. And you gotta remember this is a long season. We're still not even halfway through halfway. I think one teams hit eighty one games and probably probably the Mariners because they started. Mariners are the as I would imagine if yeah, it's still a long way to go y'all. So, yeah, just be smart about how you're using your fibrous the way too good. Call for sure couple other situations here. Speaking of those Mariners in Elliot's had some saves and so he was he was an interesting pickup. Do you think he can hold the job? Even when a when a hunter Strickland type returns from the I L. Or how are you assessing that situation between ROY Innis, Elliot's hunters stricklin down in or over in Seattle? I think Strickland probably gets the job back being right handed he was really good before he got hurt. So I would assume he maybe he has to work, his way back in, but they're looking for tradable assets. And. To clear cap spay, or clear, money, not, not really cat. But and to gain assets for rebuild. So I think Strickland, probably has the most amount of value, if he can kind of get back on track and get some saves under his belt. He'll be a pretty. Desired resource for the Mariners, considering all the other issues that we got going on. So I would expect Strickland to get that job back. But Elliot's could be a guy that is also traded. And, you know, I think for right now he's gonna hold onto it for a little longer when he's a lefty. So again, they could end up with a Elliott says the lat tea and Strickland, the righty. So they can kinda mix and match there as well. Even when both guys are back in upright. Michael Rennes in has snapped up. Some saves out in Cincinnati now. It's certainly looks like it's still right glasses job primarily, but I've been I'm just kind of praying that Michael renting get on track and really go off just because he's such a fun unique player for those unaware. He's really sharp hitter, even jumps out in center field with stump some regularity. I mean he's he's logged parts of nine games in the outfield. This year playing each of the each of the. Three positions is just the super athletes. I just like him. I just wish you had more fantasy relevance outside of like an NFL, only some kind of polling for this from that aspect. We have four saves now on the year. Is he a threat to rice, glaze, and before he anti would say originally, I thought, maybe, you know, if they'd kept going the way they started a voice could be someone who was traded. They're now just four games under in by run differential, they'd be on the cubs. But they'd be a half game behind them. So they have to look at all the all the numbers and say, we've got a crew here if the offense keeps going and keeps improving we've seen our boy, we get going few of the other guys start to turn the boat around. They could be in contention. So I don't think the reds are in a sell off mode. So how do you assess it between rice glitziest and Michael Renzo Lorenzen was a popular up this weekend? We knew that division was going to be close. But when the season every team is within five and a half games of first place. Crazy. I mean that's, that's going to be a really. Fundraise especially if the reds, try to stick in it, and I agree. I think they should I think they've got a not not only have they been able to kind of stay in it in spite of that awful start like they still haven't even got really good contributions from some really important players on this team so including one of their best hitters hasn't back. It's Janette working, it's way back. I mean, once he gets back, they're going to start to have an embarrassment of riches offense. Now as we say regularly, those things figure themselves out, remember Cameron, maybe where's he gonna go when all the guys get back? Unfortunately he got an injury. So something will probably happen. But I mean they've done all this without him. And he's been. Yeah, that's a good call. This is a team that I think could be really and they have a lot of tradable assets if they do wanna try to make a Bush. I think they should trade away guys like Jose, Syria or not the premium stuff I would trade, the because they've, they've got some depth in their system, they could create some of the fringe guy, not fringe, but like the non top of the scale, guys and still get some supplemental pieces to improve the team, even maybe some guys that we've seen this, you know, like Josh Van Meter maybe he gets flipped somewhere and they can bring in some stuff. So yeah, this reds teams. Interesting so do you think Lorenzen could wrestle the job away? Because glasses has been used in a multi like it might not even be a hostile takeover. Maybe they're like we're gonna Lorenzen this job so he can be a one inning guy. And we're gonna use a glassy says a two inning guy or is it just makes match be fantasy nightmare? I would not be surprised if it's a mix and match. I mean Iglesias hasn't saved a game since June, ninth, dang and Lorenzana saved two since then on back back days. That's interesting. So I think we're going to characterize it as you know, we're kind of giving glitziest chance kind of. Get better in, in not in, in kind of recover from a few bad outings and things like that. But I think it's moving in that direction, especially considering. I don't know. I mean they gave them that they've got. He's got that glitziest got that contract. So it's really friendly deal too. Yeah. So I mean I'd hate to see them. I don't think they would necessarily take him out full-time, but I could definitely see this turning into some sort of time share. Especially if the reds are okay taking Michael Rennes bat out of that lineup. Yeah, exactly. As it's a nice little at to have on, on the bench there, especially getting one of these long games, or something, or you gotta make some moves early because of injuries are never you've just got Lorenzen as an interesting weapon, they're worth noting rice, hog Lacey's, his last appearance. He did finish the game. But it was not a save tune ity. So that we've got that there. That's the closer stuff. Let's get into some free agent, pickups kind discuss where they went what, what's your outlook on them? I mentioned the Marlins guys. We did discuss them with Ariel Cohen. And then I did their deep dive with Nick Pollock side referring to those two to really get the analysis on the guys that gallon Jordan Yamamoto Elliot's or Hernandez. I'm more interested in, in the pickups of them in, in what you did you mentioned that you got Zack gallon. Did you pick them up and and what were the prices you paid paid eighty one dollars four? In the main event. I just figured he of all the guys who were available this week as starting pitcher yet, for eighty one. Yeah. So I, I was actually surprised that I got him for the for that price. Sibling. There are a number of people in my main event that still have money. I am not one of them anymore. I now have thirty five dollars through got somebody else. Eighty-one right. Yeah. I didn't think I would end. I got Hendrix. Is well, it eighty on bugs I didn't think I would end up with both. And this is where my doing my math correctly. Definitely helped because I got Hendricks and in gallon, both eighty one and I'd put in for somebody else. And I was like, okay, I got to make sure that I bid more than thirty five dollars or thirty eight dollars at that time a picking up, someone for coal Tucker finally got that bomb off my Ross. Yeah. So. Yeah, it's, it's going to be, it's going to be tough to make moves in there. But like I said, I really felt like gallon has a ton of upside after watching him pitching that for start super impressed by him, especially that change up. And I thought that of the guys that were available this week. This is a guy that could really help me kind of maybe move out of the cellar of standings. Yeah. Duo to pick up with gallon and Hendrix there. You got a nice starter and then a closer as well. Gallon gets Washington on Wednesday. And then lining up for to start next week where he faces Washington again this time in Washington. And then a trip to Atlanta. So staying in the division, the Washington lantern. Not easy competition. If he comes out looking good in those three starts, I think those who invested the big exit gallon gotta feel pretty strongly about that investment. I mean obviously he doesn't have to be perfect in all three. But if you look at the bottom line when he's done, and it's still a pretty sharp gown, that's going to be encouraging Clinton. I actually got him in in labor mixed for six bucks. It's one hundred dollar trade, right. We made a big deal. So we had a lot going on. Of course, anytime. Good things happen to us something bad has to happen. We do. In fact, have Jordan Hicks when we got six bucks on that gown which, I honestly. It was the old coupon. Sounds like someone's going gonna go, you know, probably ten here we can go six, and it's fine. No, we ended up getting him. And we also brought back Aaron judge. And both of those moves will will account and that all pairs with getting Christian yelich in a big deal where we traded Goldschmidt. Tommy fam-, Adam Eaton, and Zack Wheeler, as well as a catcher slop of we gave Jake see Tony Walters for Barnhart. He won a little boost. Sure. 'cause he wanted Laurie on own. I wanted to give eating into that was the compromise was to give the catcher boost, Julie, those didn't eating off your Auster, as you know, he's obviously not going to be a clubhouse favorite. That's what I'm saying. Dude Laureano hated him. Calhoun, Willie Calhoun, threatened to stay on our L until he was off the teams say, what I tried to change him in the website said he won't come off until you get rid of eating. So I had to get him out of there. So the catcher swap was kind of the sweetener there to make Jay go away from Oriana and focus on eaten. So it was Goldie fam- eaten and Wheeler. Those are the four primaries for yellow ch- coal, Kowloon, and the other one, I missed in here. Oh, Yandi is because he's not in the MAC Ross. He's coming back to we have both Kowloon's. I really liked the monopoly on Callahan. So that's that. Yes, I'm pretty happy with that. So you know we feel pretty good right now. Joey Wendell it's gonna fill in a little bit at corner until Yang as gets back, which is due back this week. So, yeah, we did trade for an injured guy, but somebody who's on the road back already, and we need an offensive infusion. And so getting the best offensive player to date along with judge, obviously, those are the two primaries, both Calhoun, joining the squad one returning in one joining that helps sodas, but the primary is adding yelich, and bringing back judge to hopefully infuse this offense. And with Wheeler, you know, it's tough to lose them because I do think you can really go off. You know, he kind of had a similar era as he does right now last year around this time and then absolutely took off. And just because that happened last year doesn't mean it's going to happen this year, but for me, I just believe that it's a possibility I still believe in his arm talent. So four sixty ninety are a while, not as nice as you would like certainly makes me believe that he can still go up. Tough to get rid of him or Trey much. Thank you read. But we have some really strong strong pieces in the rotation that have really come up force, like Brandon Woodruff, Jayco, Taridi, David prices there, sunny grays been more useful than not. We've actually curated some good start. So we felt pretty good about this deal. And, and hopefully jump starts us a bit. But sitting on our hands wasn't going to do anything so we went ahead and made the deal. What do you think? To be honest. I don't love it. I think you guys gave up a lot. I, I know that yellow pages. A really great piece in amazing piece to get into deal. You gotta give up a lot for him. But I feel like you guys especially are struggling a little bit offensively and have a lot of holes in, so I don't know. It was necessarily the best move for you guys. But I yeah, I we discussed it right. And I was like little much I ran the numbers, though. And we were all you, and I because no because it's really not. So this is with Laureano even I didn't even do the numbers with Eaton in it, as is when it was yellowy a yellow Iandi and Cal Hoon versus family oriented, Goldie. We were gaining nineteen homers twenty runs thirty one rabies five steals and even fifteen points. That's just today. That's not what it's necessarily going to be going forward. But that was a much bigger advantage than I thought just to date to be quite honest. And so that really. Surprised me? And I was like you know what? If I can get Oriana out of there, because he has nine steals steals are pretty tight, and I like his speed potential more than Eaton's. And so if you stitch out eating bring in Laureano, I think it's a much better move than it's looking to be now Goldie could go off. But I don't think there's any illusion that yelich is going to stop. He's going to continue to be great. I think Gandhi, there's nothing fluky about what he's doing. Even feeling hits another ten Homer the rest of the way but his batting average guy with runs and ribs. I think that would be fine and coal Kowloon has been quality with the power and, and his runs scored his average is down. But that's being covered by yellow chin and Yandi to be quite honest. So I ran the numbers I agreed with you initially, and I don't think we want to do this, and then we started talking about it more. And once I got eaten in there, instead of Riano. I thought it was the right move for us. I'm not gonna not gonna rain on your guys is pretty too much. I think it's a bad deal. I don't know that I would have done it. But. Yeah. I mean, I think I wish you guys luck. I hope you guys kind of get back into it. Yeah. Jake was too. He's, he's actually out of fab and he's like you know what? If this doesn't propel me then I want you to win. So hopefully, this, this jump starts both of our teams. And if he he's like if I got a bunch of injuries and die off because of that because I can't replace anybody then then good luck to you guys going forward. So we'll see what it does. We had to do something against sitting on her hands wasn't going to do anything. I'm just looking at goldsmiths numbers right now from. At this time last year early similar he'd already started this turned around though. And so where is it and here's the thing, too, he's not going to run. I mean you only you only had seven last year I fully believe that he can he can get back. Like we didn't trade Goldie with her is close to what he can do, but he had already started turn around. In the beginning of June. He had, like, like eight home runs or something like that ridiculous. I'm looking at this best at best, he's going to not even fully cancel. He'll mitigate yelich at best because even with the speed that yellow will deliver. I think they'll keep JR. So again, I think the key for me was eating over Laureano there, because I really do like what Lorient has been doing since may he got off to a slow start in, in April and has been good sense. Let's get some of these pickups where you in on Jordan Yamamoto or Elliot's Hernandez at all. And if so what you pay. I was not at least I didn't get any shares I put some bids on, on Yamamoto didn't get any of them. So I like Yamamoto and I think he's been super impressive. He's obviously not strong outing yesterday. I mean not as strong as well. Yeah. We could face the cardinals every game, let me say this actually give up runs for once yes but four walks in five innings what I liked though was three of those were in the first inning. And he bounce back. I like CNN pitcher face adversity, and stabilized from it. So he had a brutal first inning, a hit and three walks gives up the two runs finishes up strong with with four quality innings after that was limited to five because they ran them up to ninety nine pitched by then did the Phillies but I was still pretty impressive that Yamamoto did there. And I got a couple of shares of motor going forward to some pretty excited about what he can do. What about Elliot's Hernandez anything on? Him. I know some people picked him up, and he's been he's been pretty decent. But I, I think he's kind of the odd man out in this rotation wants the pieces start coming back that, that was my concern. And that's why I kept really small bids on him. He should get a start Elliot's or Hernandez. Shikha the start this week against Phillies pencil. Then it's not confirmed yet, but then Caleb Smith's do back very soon, and then Pablo -pez right now. It's not looking like it's going to be severe and keep him out for a while. So spots, just become tough at that point. And yes, something could happen to open back up. But Elliot's an end is not the kind of talent that I say, well, I'm going to bet on this and let it play out. You know, we you and I kind of doing that with Ross stripling coming into the knowing that he could be compromised as a starter. And we said, well, we really like is talent anyway. So we're going to get them, which is a segue into Ross stripling who did start to get cut in a bunch of the best in the business. Thank you. He kinda bunch leagues did stripling. And now he's looking like he's going to be the primary guy to take over for Richhill and they do still have who he'll orients. I do think that, you know, the starts that may be stripling wobbly a perfect opportunity to bring earliest for multiple innings zone and they end up being kind of tandem starts. That's what they did in this first start. But right now all the probable start websites have stripling getting to start this week at Arizona at Colorado, a how many shares of them, did you still have and be did you acquire anymore via free agency. I didn't acquire anymore via free agency but I still had a ton good mostly because he was at least he was still pitching. Wasn't wasn't getting the innings or anything. But he was still on an active roster. And I was able to kinda keep rotating them in. So I you know, obviously get a hold onto those. This is looking really good for my fantasy teams. Not good with the bet. I made with aerial on Friday, but who doesn't need another road where shirt in their life? So, right. No, I'm excited to see what stripling can do. You know he he was good in his five starts, but it just was a numbers game. And they felt comfortable pushing him to the bullpen and then the immediate for the first appearance out the bolt penny had a third of an inning gave up three runs to the worst team in the universe. San Francisco Giants, and it was like. And here's what I thought I didn't think numbers that you put up against triple, h I didn't think those counted. So I don't even know why those are baked into the IRA because if you face a minor league team, that's a minor league outing. Right. You would think that's how it works. But unfortuna- Lance, they count, if it happened a major league stadium stills still counts from that point on. He's got a 235-yard and fifteen in third sixteen strikeouts for raw stripling and he was the second part of the tandem outing with aureus getting the getting the start. But looks like they're gonna flip or I shouldn't even say flip, because stripling is going to start. We don't know what this is going to be like, and even stripling, not confirmed. So you didn't add any more shares were you nervous that maybe not the guy or was he just not available in situations where you needed to pick them up? I'm a little bit nervous that he isn't the guy in a little bit nervous about. Could this be a tandem thing where he only goes three or four innings and be like a quasi opener? Have your ears comes in because then you're says the guy who's going to get the win. Correct you want because I like both of them damn near equally still at that point. Gimme the guy going second. Yeah. So or fantasy. Obviously held onto my shares but also picked up a share of your is this week. So I think I think both of these guys are kind of canceling out each other's fantasy value, which is the unfortunate part, I it is annoying. I can also see them trading starts to where it's like stripling gets the one tomorrow Tuesday, and then or is gets the next one in that spot. Although that would be Colorado be honest. I mean how this more than half this rotation is a strong breeze away from an Alston. This. Got real my ENA, even the themselves stripling in, in areas have had their own issues. So you're, you're right on that. Euro, this good work itself out by some we post podcasts. I'm not overly worried. I I'd probably grab both in. Yeah. I mean wherever you can and probably most twelve team formats. They're talented enough that, that you can have stripling areas on your roster and feel good about it. Even if they're not in a prime find fantasy role which is starter or closer, obviously neither then we're going to close. Let's stay in the division over to Logan, Allen. The rookie lefty for the Padres pitched. Well in his debut seven shutout innings he gets a trip to Baltimore. You always a little bit nervous about Camden Yards. But it is the Baltimore Orioles. So I'm not too nervous about it. I do worry about your boy. We're not a Nunez, maybe clubbing him a little bit. But other than that, I was pretty interested in, in. Logan ended up acquiring share of him. What do you think about Logan Allen and his his prospects going forward? Here Allen is one of those guys that I think his name is prospect type is a little bit higher than. His actual fantasy value allied, by the way. I got three shares. He's, he's not a guy that I think necessarily translates into a future ace of in fantasy or guy that is gonna help carry a rotation, but more of a mid rotation fantasy starter which I think, has a value. And if you're grabbing that off the waiver wire or via fab in this season. I think it's you can be extremely valuable, especially with the state of pitching, but I think some people think that this guy is potentially a future ace because of where he fell on prospectless coming in the last season in this season. I don't think that's the case in so dynasty and keeper leagues I'm looking to kind of sell high on him right now. But in redrafts definitely willing to pick them up the pitching. Petco division that isn't necessarily the best in the world. So, yeah, I think he's, he's a good pickup for redraft but not a guy, I'm going to bring the Bank on, especially dynasty keeper. Yeah. There were some strong scales from Logan in triple A numbers with twenty five percents, strikeout rate eleven percent. Swing strike the five fifteen year a was bad. So is one forty four whip. If you look at the game log though it was actually kind of crappy start for his first two outings, really great middle. And then the last three actually leading up to his promotion or bad. So it's one of those things where I know you're parsing thirteen start sample. But I do like to kind of see the makeup of it as he just routinely getting shellacked, or as he been great in a one ninety one for like the middle eights arts of that. Run encouraged me. So I wanna end and I didn't have to break the Bank on him too, because I knew I wasn't going to go crazy on that Cowan because of because of budgetary reasons. So Logan was a reasonable backup to me. So I'm excited to see what he can do it. Looks like he's slated to get Baltimore this week. They. Only have five games so just that star. And then a to start next week, Stanford Cisco and at the dodgers, obviously that at the dodgers will be a big test. But I like what Logan setting up to do. What did you do with Chicago Cubs prospect, advert LA, because he's also it probably even bigger prospect in some circles than someone like Logan, Allen. But is he going to kind of Julio aureus where he's really seen as just kind of this utility knife? He's going to get to starts here and then one's gonna freak out, but then back in the bullpen here. What were you doing with ally from the cubs? I kind of put him in the same tier as Logan Allen as a guy that in redrafts, I'm willing to go and grab, but I think again a little bit over hyped though. I don't know where these strikeouts came from this year. I mean this guy that. Has had like twenty you know kinda low twenty percent strikeout rates and is your in AAA is thirty six and a half percent strikeout rate like, hey, just a huge jump. So I don't know. I haven't I haven't read a lot of notes on him. In terms of did he get increased velocity or. At another pitch or something like that. But I mean this is a former prospect of. No, he was always considered kind of a high floor, low ceiling type of guy. Okay. Interesting to see him kind of put it all together as he gets to the major leagues. I think your concerns with him being kind of a long long reliever or a guy who gonna comes in after an opener. Valid it'll be interesting to see what the cubs do with him kind of moving forward. But I I wasn't overly concerned with going after him considering the other options, I were around. Yeah. Again, he felt like somebody who advert house late felt like somebody who's a nice backup. If you didn't have budget to get that gallon or rush dripping where he was available. I got him in one TGIF be I didn't really pay much forum figure. You know what cubs this guy, I think that was even something that projection Jomon said they hate him. Well, he also didn't pitch much last year. And he wasn't that great. So it is kind of a toss up sort of thing. I'm looking at him as a short term guy he is pencilled in earn Inc. Didn't he's starting on Tuesday. House lay is against the Braves and we'll see where it goes from there because they're, they're actually starting chat, what on Thursday to which, by the way that who opened for house lay in his first appearance. So there's starting both guys. So. So Ashley spite starting on Tuesday of a seven game week as not getting a second start. He would be lined up to start again at Pittsburgh next Monday. So it is going to be one of those things that rotation could have wanted two thousand fourteen World Series with, with less lesser Darvish cantata Hamilton. Yeah. I mean obviously veteran guys whose best days are buying them, but they're still all pretty good. Even Darvish is coming back back this week. I guess. So many intro, bro. You're Strope ac- shares are taking a hit. But if you hung onto if you hung onto Kimbell this long it's finally going to start to pay off. So we'll see what make a trade towers last night. That's right. Oh, yeah. You had to be trained to you traded kimbrel, Janssen, four Willson Contreras. That's right. That's nice move to catch only it was just a really nice upgrade. And it's one of the things kind of learning a lot about this league this year because my first year in L tout, and apparently, it's really hard to trade closers, because buddy, punts them, and nobody wants to pay more than like draft Abe rises. Okay. You got a great return. Yeah. For johnson. I got offers of Garrett Cooper. Yeah. I mean in a couple other offers not saved plus holds right? No, it's. Just making sure like I didn't think it was, but I was like, that's that, that, that would make any amount of sense. And even then I'd probably and I love Garrett Cooper. I love what he's been doing. Scoop them in some leagues. But come on. No, you gotta come out of the room for kennel morte just you know what I mean. But Indy barons of Yahoo came with a really strong offer of Wilson dress really a great the grave. Yeah upgrades my catching spot, which has been a bit atrocious. So, yeah, it was a pretty nice deal, especially with kimbrough coming back afford kind of cut them loose. Yeah. I liked that for you. I think that's going to work out a couple Tyler's where we're in the in the pickup news this week Skaggs. And Molly always been one of those guys is probably been on and off your waiver wire depending on what size league you play in. He's been. He's been mostly good. But like I said, just kinda bouncing back and forth, he's, he's been snake bit, and they'll because his his skills, and his even seventeen. ERA like you look at everything he's done. He deserves better than a two and seven record. But if you like you're in a point sling, that counts negative for losses. You've probably been pretty frustrated by because a four seventeen era in one twenty whip with over strikeout printing eighty and seventy seven and two thirds. Serves better than two and seven. So he was somebody who was picked up and so Tyler Skaggs, which of the two Tyler's where you more interested in did you pick them up anywhere. I got both of them excellent. So grab Tyler Molly in TGIF with a top guy, and you paid a airy nice, sixty nine bucks form. Again, just trying to bolster my pitching in a league where by pitching his kind of been the thing holding me back, and then I picked up Tyler Skaggs. I believe in my beat just in Mason Li. Yep. Got rid of Travis Shaw finally see that. And that was more optimized at nine hundred and twelve. Yes. And so. Both of them. Have I think decent starts coming up both of looked pretty good as of late? I've always been a Skaggs guy. So. Unfortunately eight a lot of his really bad early season work, but last restarts got at least five innings and hasn't given up more than three earned runs and only one overs last two starts. So I'm hoping he's kind of turning corner and molly's a guy like you said, I think with a little bit of luck could be a much nicer player you in those angels lefties. You also love Andrew Heaney. Yeah. I think those are both nice guys some to start scrubs that were out there that folks really well I could one of the guys in there 'cause I'm a little bit nervous about him. But he's been markedly better than the other two. It was act Davies a hat tip, and say he's he's higher than scrub. But then the two were Adam put co and Brad Keller who I think are firmly in the scrub category. But what did you think of these to start guys? They were. They were all drawing attention. I think co setup for like a ball Baltimore Detroit or something. I don't know Casey, both. Yeah. You gotta love that and then Keller gets Cleveland on the other end of that. And then at Toronto and you gotta love a trip to Toronto. There has been a business. So we're you in on any of these to start guys. I was in on Davies and Keller. I'm not touching go. I mean the one thing he does is give up home runs. In the one thing, the Orioles do is home runs. He's Josh Tomlin and I'm not even gonna say two point oh because two point ply. Is better like an improved version of something. He's Josh Tomlin point five like he's worse is eight career two point five eight Homer for nine this year where he is two point nine eight career two point five. That's what I'm saying. He is Josh Tomlin point five is his the downgraded version. Windows both of them in the same room at the same time now. Exactly. It's tomlin. It's older Tomlin, who was like just worn down a bit. But wanted to keep playing the only way you could get back in the league with different name. And so he's now Adam put he made up a really weird name that no one would draw suspicion to like, just just seems like that could be a real name. Interestingly enough Tomlin's been pitching out of the Baltimore out of the Braves bullpen and is still run machine. Despite some quality numbers, otherwise three seventy seventy a point ninety five whip great whip the reason the IRA so highs because he's given up eight homers and forty three innings. But anyway, so Davies and Keller Davis has been much better than these other two this year and we've seen this before oughta him. So I don't want to dismiss it out of hand. Like I said, I put him under the scrubs category, which is probably a little unfair with three oh sixty RA. But at one thirty six whip. Three six is still too high even for what you can do. I think it can be a high threes comfortably, and you can believe in that, but I can't buy three. Oh, six with these skills, but what do you think what do you think Davies can do for you? Are you keeping them beyond the to start, which is Seattle and Pittsburgh both at home this week? So I don't know if I'm keeping him beyond the to start gifted Berg again, next week, by the way. That might be interesting because Pittsburgh has not been playing well, maybe I keep him for the next two weeks or three all star break. He's not a guy that I want in my tation long strike. I guys. So but he is bitching well he's got that awesome offense behind him. So he's going to pick up some wins. I mean he's already seven one on the season. So we're talking about Molly gins and bad luck. He's got some really nice luck. But he's just he's not a good pitcher in terms of fantasy wise. And he's a nice little kind of mid rotation in real life of but really shouldn't be on many rosters in yet. Perfectly capable real life type of guy, you know, that's a four five but not fantasy is just tough. But you get an amored with the area. And you're like, well, this is this is good. Don't sleep on that whip we've talked about this phenomenon before to where people like Zach Davies of the world. Get more love than somebody who does the reverse with a crummy era in a really good wit, and I actually prefer the reverse someone like afford twenty or Molly four seventeen ERA one twenty whip. I prefer that to the three oh, six thirty six here, but the winds have gone more in Davies favorite because keeping runs off the board is the name of the game. So that's where we're at with that. Let's move onto the it was a it was a light talking about Brad Keller, real quick. Oh, B B Cal, what? Another baseball week. Probably Carlos Santana for looking at something wrong. I. I ask them Ricardo hitting well killers guy that are like coming into the season. It's been very up and down and his last start raised his Yara by almost exactly a half of a run. Seven seven four innings before that? He had turned in three straight quality starts. He's been looking a lot better as of late. He's a guy that I definitely grabbed in a few leagues as kind of a streamer for this week, okay? And, you know, one thing you really need to highlight with those three starts to were at Texas at Minnesota, and they were all seven plus endings for Brad Bratkowski, the White Sox isn't an easy. The White Sox has got a team that can take and pound on you. Exactly. And especially I mean thing. Yeah. That is I didn't realize he had those three excellent starts you mentioned. He got ripped by Seattle, which is a bummer because they've been on such hard times lately, you were hoping that he could keep it going. But you just pick them up for the to start again, at Cleveland Toronto you like that he's not a strikeout guy, Brad Keller, but give him an opportunity to actually get some strikeouts. Because both those teams can swing and miss, he'd get at Washington after that, if he did, well, if he does what you hope for this, or even exceeds expectations and beasts out this week, would you? Keep Brad Keller for at wash. Shing ten the following week depends on what my other options are. But I think it'd be inconsideration. I mean he's very. He's very Zach Davies issue triggered. Yes. Strikes out a few more guys. But I mean he's gone the his last game where you got blown up. Seattle was the first time this season he'd gone less than five innings and a game true, true innings eater, in an era, that is that is getting, you know, getting rid of that role pretty much. He's going out there and eating again. Great for a young team that just needs to grind out a buck, sixty two and get the innings filled and doesn't want to use a million guys twenty three years old. Brad Keller keeps the ball down to AL best Palmer. Yes, good home park. Some quality defense behind him. You could see him going on run where he brings that ERA back into the high threes against them. More today. He's good. Good call out there as far as a guy he kind of emulate. Although it's gotten more of the Tyler Molly luck this year with a three nine record, although in fairness, he hasn't had Davies area yet, but that's a best case scenario guys that if you curate him well, and if you're good at curing starts you've. Probably got him with like early on your fantasy team. He's had like a three Yarra because if you were if you were able to kind of avoid those Tampa Bay starts which without Tampa Bay started the season. Hopefully you didn't start him there. And we're avoid this kind of at Seattle start. You probably got some good work from him this season. So that's true. The only downside would be that you'd probably miss probably van soda. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe at Texas, that might have been at toss up 'cause they're pretty good again something you highlighted very early in the season that you always want to be leery of Texas, people know that as a general rule. But then the offense itself is actually good. So you're right though because he started off brilliantly. Didn't Keller his first five starts at two sixty four year because he was beaten up on the scrubs of the division. You only got Minnesota ones, but then to White Sox one Detroit and one Cleveland when they were really, really bad. He got ten strikeouts against them. So Keller is somebody who going to be one of those waiver guys back and forth, all year, but you could catch them at the right moment. Let's move onto hitters. It was a light hitting week. There was a lot of pitching out there to be had we just covered most of it. If not all of the premium ones hitting was tough to come by. There wasn't really that premium guy. The one guy I would I would call premium and. He wasn't even available in all the league's would be Chris Taylor falling back into a role with Cory Seager being on the I L and again, Taylor wasn't even available in all that many leagues. And it was really shallower leagues. So it wasn't even a main event type of deal was like a twelve team in below sorted sort of situation. Do you think Chris Taylor, can get back to the twenty to the twenty twenty thirteen the Tony seventeen version that we saw him that was so good. I don't think so if you'd like a if you'd like a little bit of a laugh right now. Go check out. Chris Taylor's baseball savant page. Okay. Okay. Is it going to be all blue? It is. It is. Blue is blue could be it is like dodger blue except for spread speed. Oh, great rent a little bit. Oh, jeez. Yeah. So for those that don't all the time I can go on baseball Savan gonna player profile page in the upper right corner that got this little dashboard with exit below aren't hit sprint speed. X wilda XP next slug with these sliders from blue to red blue blue cold bad red hot. Good. And he literally ice in all of them. You can't even yet the league in almost every single on its twelfth percentile for the slugging, it's, it's really, really bad. I don't think this is fast. He's fast in that always help something they always been fast and lease very good defense. Yes. And so he's going to be in the lineup. He was, you know. Hardly anybody plays every day for them outside of their premium stars. So he wasn't gonna play every day, you know, even even with core cigarette. He's not going to be playing him. I will say that if we were able to kind of isolate, maybe the last two weeks or something and look at baseball savant. I would think that it would improving because over that time period, he's got a three forty nine four twenty six fifty one line with three homers for Chris Taylor. Thirteen ribs and nine runs as well. So he's on fire bit. I wonder if you can keep it going here. Let me look at something on their setup. He's also hitting two eighty three sixty two five eighty one against left handed pitch. And that's exactly what I was looking up was how many of them got coming up, they get AVI Ray on Tuesday. But then the next one is the following Saturday, June six or joysticks, excuse me, right right before the break. So you're only going to get three more before the race. Plays what it is. Yes. And in fact. Recommended him as such in my SPN daily notes for tomorrow going against rights. That's Christina move on from aimless time Jason kipness, Ali talking doing. I haven't liked Jason Guinness for years. I don't fall for as little hot streaks. I take them up in a league where I was really hurting for second base. If you're looking for playing time I mean, they're going to yes and. He's their version of Dustin Pedroia. Guess? The Cleveland version because it has no championships. Accurate accurate. I mean listen again, if we wanna give favors to him and do the same for Chris Taylor and talk about the last two weeks, three sixty two four fifteen six seventeen with three homers and fifteen rebels and eight runs. That's what's brought kipness back onto the radar with one two, three four five six seven multi games. So that's something, it's something, the hang your hat on and hope you can get a little spur going. The best I can say form though is that Jason kipness is going to play. So if you need playing time as he is Jason kipness. That's he isn't deejays campus. Let's talk about his last year of his contract, so -ssume the team will not spend the sixty minute half million dollars on his on his option for for twenty twenty. There is literally no universe, when that happens. None, no Univer, less time, Colin Moran, who is been on track of late. Actually ended up having a bum week. I it was a big pickup last week too. But team folks that didn't pick them up went around and decided to get him this week where he was still available again shallower leagues. A lot of the deeper leaks already jumped on him because he been hot to go having a good month. Looks like he's going to be tuned guy, but a strong side, petunias column, rand somebody who can really be a difference maker in anything but deeper leagues. I don't know that he can be a difference maker, what he can be is someone that doesn't hurt you a gu-guy in deeper leagues that has value. I did pick him up in I think to league. I cannot remember for the life of me where they might have been my main event qualifier. So I grabbed him especially because the batting average. He's the guy that I feel pretty confident is gonna hit two seventy or close to that rest. The way may not be with much power might get another five to ten home runs, but he's not gonna hurt me anywhere like he's gonna play. And he's in his average, isn't gonna sink me anywhere. So I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah nothing but it's all perfectly fared for column. Morand especially commie gong has just been so atrocious, so brutal. And so he might not even be put tuned as often as he might normally be if there was a capable platoon part for column rain like you might even get some of the left the at bats. And I don't think that'll tank is average basically the platoon with maybe like a two eighty. But if you plays fulltime I think it is going to be something that to seventy range for him Junko gong. Isn't even getting my way, and that's really bad, because I weigh one hundred seventy five pounds and he's any one forty five. Justin, like. Hey, I was looking for someone to pick up this week. I wonder how gongs been doing. It was like, oh my God. I did that a couple of weeks ago. Yes. I, I was like, oh, maybe I'll circle back around. He's up vomited everywhere. And then and then left his page. That's pretty brutal at this point. How is he still in the majors that is very surprising that they're giving them a chance? We'll see. We'll see what happens can't talked about earlier. I mean, Pittsburgh is technically still in this. Hey, they're, they're all in a man five and a half games behind. I know they've been really cold as of late. But they've gotten surprisingly great contributions from Kevin Newman, and Brian Reynolds, Josh bell has been an MVP candidate. I mean that rotation is. But let's go back on track with Jim did DFS. It was. Yeah. I mean that was that was nice to see they've got some good bullpen parts. They could definitely use some pitching. They should trade their best prospects for like. A mid tier starter. The traits. I know like like Arizona got crushed on the trades that they made. But you think of the trades that Pittsburgh is made. Recently for trading away Garrett Cole. And then training. Austin meadows. And yeah I mean this tower glass now and Shane Baz like bands has even done anything like most people like our listeners know, because obviously, you know where I'm not even trying to be like, arrogant, whatever. But if you play deeper fantasy leagues you listen our stuff, you're, you're probably a cut above the average fans far as like knowing prospects and stuff. So y'all know Shane bads but there's gonna be a lot of fans that like a year or two are going to wake up and be like their race fans. And we got this guy, are you kidding me? Like he was the throw in. He was the chip in another first rounder named Shane Baz. So I mean they totally brutalize. The only thing I will say about the Garrick deal is it was better for them to get something because he wasn't going to do this with them because they wouldn't allow him to, they were going to keep that stupid ass sinker to seem theory with him and keep making Cole. Not utilize his secondary stuff. So it looks worse than it is. Because he want he wouldn't have broken out with them in less. He just went rogue and started pitching. However he wants. I understand where you're coming from with that. But let's talk about the return for Garrett Cole. Even if he was just a league average starter. They got Colin Moran, Michael Felise Jason, they got nothing. They got Joe must grow. What are you talking about? All that's right. And must grove, that's right for out much so. I mean it's not as bad, but still, I mean about an eight yeah, we're talking about a premium ace here baseball. It's. Yeah. Exactly. So either way they lose. It's it's been rough. I don't know if you've seen what Baz doing in a right label right now. But thirty percents strikeout rate through thirty innings. His walk rate is two walks per nine. Only given up one home run in this first thirty innings this year and couldn't be with a butter team for pitching development. Well, he could be a center Houston, with the better team in terms of getting to the major leagues because that's true twenty right now. And we'll see him when he's forty seven years, what you say. Thirty five forty five. John surgeries before he ever him. Yeah. You're definitely right about that. That, yes. Tampa Bay fan settled down, the it's not like it's like the pirates have been any better about that. I mean how long did did would take to get to see glass now in Mitch Keller and, and you're right? Yeah. And teams just they need to adjustment, especially with pitchers. Don't those bullets in the minors? There's different thing. But pitchers especially, but anyway, one last guy want to talk about that. We'll get going. Eric Sogard was still available and a lot of leagues. And I know that it's kind of like, well you know, he's obviously gonna fall at some point but he hasn't it. And we're you know we're we're about halfway home now. He hasn't played all the games. I think he might have had an I L stint here, but he's got eight homers and five steals. I think those double his career totals at this point then have an outstanding just started late in April, but he's Eric guard still been great. And he, he just hit another flurry recently. If you look at his last has been kind of, like his best month. Yeah, his last his last. Yeah, we'll just do since June first. He's up at three seventy four five six fifteen with or homers in the steel, it's like he did start to come back to earth in may. But after. A really fast starting April in everyone's like, well that's going to die down. You know, we've seen him do these fast starts before. But he's, he's back again. Eric Sogard is. I gotta ask you put any stock in this. He's thirty three's arc and he's hitting really well I'm torn dude. I'm at a loss. What do you think of Eric Savard? I mean, he's got a Chris Taylor Esq baseball savant. Pitch unsurprisingly is expertise ninth percentile hard hit percentage, second percentile. So is expanding averages sixty four it's I mean, I think there's a chance that he could maintain some batting average. But I think ultimately, I think he's definitely benefited from the Jews balls. Oh, sure he's probably benefited up there with the majority of guys. I'm just kind of writing out the hot streak. I think you give for batting average. But I I'm willing to drop off if I see a better option there's a league what am I twelve team leagues? Where says an end as the waiver wire. And you would you would. I picked him up. I didn't I ended up dropping someone else for him. I believe, but. Who I drop the league dropped Jimmy Nelson RIP? Yeah. Boy, so that's pulling from from inside lines because it's just not working. I kind of, in my leagues too brutal to waited this long. Oh, I know, Mikhail Franko in my second chance or earn this main event. What a fall off for, for Franko. What about okay? Eric Sogard over not on ios. Newness Eric garner teammate, any Galvez. Galves Eddie, Eric Sogard. Or Stephen Scottie, Scottie one more, Eric garner. Kevin newman. Newman leading off right now. Yeah. Dude, they were all cut for Eric so garden. Online championships. I don't understand that. You already missed the hot again. I think he can can be like a decent average type of guy agree with you there about Sogard working. He doesn't strike out on heavy guy, and playing sure on. Oh, but no, I wouldn't cut any of those guys for them. The only thing I could see is maybe Nunez, if you were power loaded, and you had a positional need that so guard fit. That's about it. But Newman is a better Sogard in my opinion. Scotty. That's a real tough on. I know his struggled. But damn he's got so much more. Somebody more pelts on the wall was far as MLB production, and then FREDDY Galvez. They play they have the same position eligiblity. I'm sure right both middle infield short. So I would just keep galvastan. But anyway. Unless things change Galvez, like the opposite static cast profile Galvez. At least co what's come down quite a bit. Never mind. He doesn't really read start the year. And now he's. Yeah. He's started off the season brilliantly. And he has eleven homers. And he's like one of those guys that you feel like you're not going to kill your average is not quite Colin Moran, where you feel like that to seventy barriers pretty good. But you know, you're rarely going to wake up and see. Like Freddie guy was totally, like two thirty that you just have to get rid of him. He's a handful like he's benefited the ball to the last two years. He played all hundred sixty two games. He went twelve and thirteen with this homers. He already has eleven seventy three games this year for Galvez. So I don't know. It's not like shade those people that made those moves I just show like well with SIL. Listen, I'm not above shanty somebody, but like and I don't know other teams I think the one that sticks out to me is the Kevin Newman one you already had the better version of Eric so guard in my opinion. Yeah. That one, I don't get because he's been fantastic, since he's come up. I play the same position. And he's banning. I like you said. So by the white guards pointing I batting first as well, so I wanna make that little power. But that's not where I'm going with if I'm going power go to Eric. So I, I don't get it 'cause I mean Newman as chance to steal ten more bases rest the way he's leading off. On an offense that should be at least a top of that offense should be pretty decent with oldies smart, bell once belonged comes back, that whole office should be actually pretty good. So this is why like that centralists that just Niki division this year. We we're talking about. It's like even since in Pittsburgh can make noise I wouldn't necessarily pick them to win it, but they're going to be a thorn in everyone's side in the second half and some top end starters, they had a guy like, like lots now or care, whole a big time prospect, like glass now, if you could just get a couple of guys like that, you might be busy Trevor Williams with, with those two guys and you've got a really nice start your rotation. Got a little something going on. Chris Archer and, you know, have, you know meadows meadows could also be there for, you know. On foul right now. They still had this does. And honestly, like. I understood I guess, because I've always been a must grow fan boy. So I understood the coal when a little bit more at the time just knowing that they were never going to get Kohl's ace capabilities out of him just by their own limitations. But from from the jump the Archer, one was bad. Like this isn't even hindsight with that one. It was never the right move on board with the Garrett Cole one being. Well, you know, I mean they may have thought this was in there, but they weren't necessarily ever gonna get that production. I just don't understand like you traded to even just Austin meadows like, oh my God. I know even if it should have been meadows for Archer and it still be bad. But at least you could justify or MB Tyler glass, you can say, well, well, we didn't know that glass was ever gonna get together. Jimmy made out of in Pittsburgh, but, like the whole idea that you were going to trade away meadows for orchards me's insane. Just Archie you trade it for the. Name in the personality, and I mean the contract. Yeah, I mean locked up pitching. But I mean if it's locked up and it's not doing well, like what? You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right man. It's like and I've been in Archer fan boy, but I hated it when we remember Nick, and I discussing Archer possibilities, and we both literally said, as long as he doesn't go to Pittsburgh. We'll be happy with it. And he went to Pittsburgh, because we knew that they were going to cut him and cut him down into the fastball, heavy approach, which is the last thing we would've wanted somewhere like Houston would be great, but anywhere that would emphasize breaking balls and kind of let him be Corbin Esq, and just lean on that slot. Or even teach him third pitch. But anyway, we're belaboring it. Sorry Pittsburgh fans, but you're going to be hearing about that one percent home run to fly ball this year yet and it's basically earned though too. Because when you watch him pitch, you don't really feel like it's going to come down that much. So anyway, that's going to wrap us up just and I know that the -cation is off to a great start yet. And hopefully everything gets sorted out. You're able to enjoy yourself. I've got a pinch hitter come in, and I'm not even gonna spoil it. But I'll tell you off off air. But anyway, I'm looking forward to getting Wally pips them vacation. Enjoy your vacation, and you damn well may take care, Justin.

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Starting 9 Episode #105 - Hunter Pence

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Starting 9 Episode #105 - Hunter Pence

"Welcome back to starting nine episode one. Five vodka lot of interesting topics to discuss today, because, you know, we obviously is this a baseball podcast. We talk about baseball, by the way hundred Pence is on the pod today. What a maniac that guy, you know, I feel like it's a cliche to say, oh, he's an easy guy to root for. I've said that I feel like I said that mostly about Sean Mnaya, easy guy to root for Nolan our Nado I've said that about but hundred Pence easy guy to root for g Bradley, there's, there's a few guys in my in my little easy. Gotta root for tree, Luke Voight and other one but one hundred Pence is one of those guys and I haven't listened to the interview yet this was a Dallas j production, but. I mean out of the value deals from this past off season. He's gotta be somewhere at the top in terms of what they were signed for how they were signed when they were signed and what they're doing for their teams this year hundred Pence has to be I mean who would be above him. In terms of signed a minor league deal people were talking about a potential retirement, like is this guy? Washed or not. And now we're trying to get into the all star game. And that's the cool thing about it is we actually kinda got into that, just a little bit not extensively. I didn't really want to get into a ton of baseball shit with him because he is such a cool dude, such an eclectic dude away from the field. I wanted to kind of give fans a little more of that side. Yeah. Has opposed to where he's at this stage in his career, blah, blah, blah. Why? Because he's going to get hit with a ton of shit like that because he should make the fuck and all star team. And Woody makes the all star team, there's a good chance he's going to be ask those questions at will is just gonna be fucking peppered with those questions. So. He actually talked a little bit about going to Mexico or excuse me going to the Dominican Republic, revamping his entire swing spirits of winner ball shit like that. So it was a great interview. It was a great insight to the brain power. The steam engine that makes hundred pins, go we reflected on some World Series moments as well, his time with the giants, what it means to be back in the great state. Great state that great People's Republic of Texas playing bass. Yeah. So he he's such a he's such a weird, dude. Such a cool dude. But I think honestly after listening to the interview you'll take away that hundred pins is a very thoughtful in a, a calculated individual as well. All Beit a super fucking weirdo slash nerd that sounds like you bit. Bit. That's why we had a good time like honestly, we've spearing some major technical difficulties that had hunter pins, the fucking three-time all-star two time World Series champion, sitting on hold with our tech guy Manley for like twenty minutes because they couldn't figure out the fucking phone. So this had the opportunity to be a media one, but I had I had to let the guy go had you ever faced before he, he got lucky? He never had to face me. Got to look at those things, so that interview coming later in the show, but we've got to start with the Mets and I called it I called it three weeks ago when I was at the gym, and that's sexy. The, the there was one part of me that said to this individual be careful what you wish for, because this individual comes up to me shows me his phone. He's listening to starting nine at the gym, and he says to me, you need to talk about the Mets more. And I said, listen, sir. I don't know if you want that I don't know if you want that because look where you are in the in the division standings. Because right now at the time rather I feel like it's a little more bleak now. But at the time they were hovering around five hundred there were probably what seven and a half games back so not completely out of it. But obviously not a, a World Series, contender by any means. So I said to him, if we're talking about the Mets given the state of the current team that means that only bad things are happening. So the I forget what happened between that exchange and the next time that we talked about the Mets, this'll be the second time that we talked about the Mets. What was oh, it was the Noah Syndergaard injury guard hamming. Yeah. Syndergaard Hammy injury. So like if we're talking about the Mets, it's probably gonna be something bad. Now here we are another week later another week removed. And this is going to be by far the most met story that we're going to hear in twenty nineteen. I feel like there's always one every single year. But now we have a met story for all met stories like this is going to go down, and Mets lore, like wrong with this. There's nothing wrong. But, like a couple of guys getting fed up, you know. Yeah. Now that we can put out the merch like we have the keys to the kingdom for merch. We need to put out a C tomorrow. Mickey shirt. I would love for that to happen. We don't necessarily have the keys to the merchant, jer if we do if trust me for, if we did those shirts that I showed you last week, they'd probably be out, they'd probably be up. You know what I mean? That's kind of how I think about things. Yeah. So I want I am. Well, I'm eagerly awaiting for that bow to be placed on the relationship between us, and the, the merchant folks that is a great idea. I, I love the idea. You know what fight club, we need big-league fight club, and we need beat writer fight club. And I think when this kinda shit happens there needs to be like the media has to wait like fifteen minutes after the game for everybody to get in get settled, whatever. And then they can kind of come in and punch in the face without terrible. You were that night and you have to answer no problem all part of the game. We get it. And I'll say this much for the beat writers. I'm not defending them. I need people to understand what kind of shit storm. Those folks signed up for could you imagine following a big league team? And I don't know. Let's call a team. The mets. They've got endure what they endure throughout a baseball season. Do you think those players are happy dealing with what's going on in their clubhouse and on the field? No, the answer's no at times that shit. Just gets to be a little too much. And it boils over for a beat writer, you or planted squarely in the middle of the field, which is where they're going to go out there and either have successor fail. And then in the clubhouse where they either celebrate those successes or wear those failures and ultimately take some of those failures and the aggressions and disappointments that come with it out on you the lowly beat writer so the relationship between clubhouse and writer and media in general, is already one that's kind of fucked up to begin with. So it's almost like players and managers, they're just throwing crumbs to these fucking people as they're walking down the street and every now and then every now and then you'll actually get them to stop. And maybe will. Get a little something. And this was just a matter of a couple individuals. I think not really wanting to answer to what had happened out on the field. You've got you've got a microscope that you're playing under now for multiple reasons. And this is this is when shit hits the fan. I mean in all honesty, though this should happens more frequently than I think people understand this. That's what I was going to ask you, which, I don't know if, if you're the best test subject for this, 'cause it's like no one pays attention to as, as gonna ask you, if you've ever gotten close to physically attacking a reporter because I feel like if anyone were to snap on someone it would be someone in the confines of the Coliseum when they're going in there, and they're like, this is this is barely. This is like a high school locker room type deal that we've got going on. I'll kill anyone that asked me a question that I don't like. But I feel like like you said, I feel like this is not. I think it's more so. Oh now because social media where stuff like this happens. I think guys are more cognizant to not react that way because they know that there's no such thing as keeping in the clubhouse, like keeping it in the clubhouse is only a concept of just the players are in there, even that to, to an extent, has has gone by the wayside, and that right there that right there is, is how these relationships form and get to the state that they get to, to your point baseball players understand that this is our clubhouse the rules of the game that dictate our business. Relationship say you have a right to be in here from this time to this time while you're in here you see the same shit that I see you hear the same shit that I hear. And if you're looking for a story, really the responsibilities on you who do you wanna be to this club, what type of beat writer, do you want to be to this club, or you going to be a writer that these folks can open up to? They feel like you are. Unbiased they feel like you're doing the diligence and doing the homework and actually putting forth, the effort if so you're probably gonna get a lot of respect. There's a, there's a lady out in the bay area named Susan slugger who just one she's who just want co nor Cal writer sportswriter of the year, and she's been dominating the scene for a hot minute. There's some folks who have opinions about or some folks, that don't like her. Some folks that I think I'm in this camp fully understand appreciate what she has to do what she's had to do not only as a female in this business world, but in the sporting world as well, I have a lot of respect for what she's been able to do and how she's been able to carve out her in the clubhouse in the writers world and in the sports world, the baseball world in general, so it can be done. It can be done successfully, it just about. I think how you as a writer are wanting to be endeared and portrayed. And you're saying well that shouldn't be a decision to make them here to cover the sport. We'll guess what? That is a fucking decision. You have to make whether you like it or not. Because that's the same kind of decision these players have to make whether or not they want to be a role model during that fifty minute window. Your ass is allowed in there with a camera microphone because you might just catch them doing or saying something unsavory that wouldn't be allowed at a children's book reading that they might be going to this weekend. So do you want to be the Astle that turns the guy reading the little engine that could into a fucking dick, or do you want to be somebody that just gets the nuts and bolts of it gives the fans, what they're looking for shows the players that they're going to do their work, and can actually coexist? Who do you wanna be now? I it's, it's a fascinating almost like a social experiment. Inter for human interaction like we're talking about two different worlds colliding and this happens every day like the media and the players have to find a way to coexist. Because I, I mean Dallas you've done it on both sides. I don't know. Have you ever have you ever been in a clubhouse as a media member, asking questions? I know that you've interviewed baseball players. But you've never have you ever gone into a club? I was. How to ask questions and a media, scrum? Now that, that might gig a bag chief, I fucking hate that, so basically how I got media pass all the media gang is what it's called. Yeah. Like how I got passes was the Red Sox wouldn't credential bloggers, which is what I am. I guess classified as they wouldn't do it. I've asked for years, tried for maybe eight years, and then Dallas was able to get us starting nine passes out. No clind for the, the series that Mnaya through the no hitter. And then I just came back and asked the Red Sox, you know, hey, you guys better than the as like why are they give me passes? But you guys don't and then, like, well, do you like what is it that you're looking for like, do you want? Like, do you want to be in the clubhouse? Like what, what are you trying to do? And I was like, no, I just wanna be accountable, if I say something about a guy I wanna be available to them like if they have an issue with it here. I am. I don't wanna hide from that. I don't wanna be the guy on his couch, who just says, whatever he wants never have. To be accountable for it. So I just want, you know, feel passes for batting practice never going to go in the media room. I don't care to ask questions, if I want to ask or something text them, clubhouse questions, you're never gonna get anything. Good there. I want podcast interviews. So, for to give you, I guess some perspective on how uncomfortable it is to be that guy in the clubhouse, twenty twelve was the only time I've ever been in a baseball clubhouse as a quote unquote baseball. Writer journalist, whatever was writing for magazine back then. And it felt like and I've described it this way a bunch of times it felt like being out awake. Everyone everyone was walking around kind of quiet awkwardly. It was almost like, you know, no one wanted to their different cliques of people hanging out in different circles. And this isn't every major league clubhouse, you have to remember two thousand. Twelve that Red Sox team was an unmitigated disaster, and they were miserable. It was August. So they already knew that it was over. So this isn't the same for all club houses. But just to give you an idea of what the Mets clubhouse is probably like, because they are an unmitigated disaster. And they know that it's over some sure that the temperature in the room with somewhat similar the players walked around media like they were furniture like that. They were not human beings. You're in the way now, like just we've just gone out and competed, and it's such an awkward experience. I don't I don't ever want to be in the club, not just because I don't care to ask questions that I know I'm gonna get cliche answers to. But, like I feel like that's your space as the players like that's your space. If I were player, I'm not. I don't want a guy like asking me questions at my locker. When I'm trying to like dry off my balls. That's the thing that's the thing is, is there is an understanding, so you will you would learn to navigate those waters by watching your peers and you would really you. That's how you. Do it is you would understand you know what? I don't see anybody else walking up to that dude right now. I'm not going to be the first guy to walk up to that dude right now that gonna happen. I'm gonna give and players. We know that you have a job to do. We understand that. That's why we will walk right by you like you don't exist is because we know you're there to do a job. So what do you want me to do? You want me to stop and talk to you, and engage with you about my pre game routine out of nowhere. You gotta fuck and question asked me if not keep it moving to stand over their and collect dust like every other bucket writer while I get my work in. And that's how you coax look, I'm not here to be your friend man, like, there's nice guy awards and their shit like that about people who are receptive to the media. And I've always said, I challenge you to find a member of the media that I was ever rude to that. I ever was dismissive of you'll never find him. It'll never fuck it happen. Because I understood, I respected the coexistence. So there's, there's just lessons. To be learned on both sides, a young media member learns how to handle a wily veteran in the clubhouse, a wily veteran, and the clubhouse is showing these younger guys, hopefully how to respect the work that needs to get done because these are the message these are the messengers, right. For how good you are. You wanna be lauded for it. These are the ones who are responsible when you fuck up when you're going to be held accountable, these are the ones who have been put in place to do that as well. So again, let them lick your ice cream cone, but also understand when they have to throw it away. It is a very uncomfortable coexistence. It's coexistence because it's for decades, but it was very uncomfortable. And like you said, you're, it's all going down with me either half fully or partially fucking naked. Yeah. Well, let's not let's not overlook the actual question that kind of precipitated this issue because it's a very fair question. And it's one that the Mets have struggled and Mickey Callaway has struggled to properly address all season, the use of Edward. Yes usage of Edwin d as and the bottom of the eighth. The Mets were up three to two with the heart slash top of the cubs. Order coming up, it was shorter Bryant Rizzo and bias. Okay. And he had the option of either doing what everyone generally now accepts to be the best way to maximize victory which is to put your best pitcher against their best pitcher could have thrown windy as that inning. Instead stuck with Seth Lugo, who is not nearly as good as windy as when he could've used Lugo or gazelle men, or sorry, not Lugo, could've used gazelle men in the ninth inning after got through the heart of the order what happened it ended up being five to three they gave up three runs because higher by hit a home run. It's the fact that Mickey Callaway can't a properly execute that and be properly respond to a very fair question about his, his, his refusal to use Edwin, is that where after they invested a decent chunk of their off-season, and acquiring him is laughable in its and the idea that you're going to have a beat writer removed from the clubhouse asking a question. Like what the fuck is that censorship is that who you are right now. The fuck right outta town guy. Say care, the Xs and os before we start censoring, the media or thinking that you're even close to being in a position of thority to do, so you need to need to walk that back, man need to walk that back, you know that each of them were find. Right. You know how much how much to stacks ten ten K ten K? Now is not a ton Jin each did you guys see the other part of this story? Which part of that, being that Micky Calloway's trying to get fired. What? No. The report the New York Post and BUSTER only have the front office has dictated at least some pitching moves during games this season. Multiple organizational sources confirmed ESPN. So that's a retorting the wilpon cz. Are we talking van wagon and I mean I can see that which is see that coming who didn't see a player age in taking over who, who didn't see that. Not me. I mean I feel like that was that was just I feel bad for Mickey Callaway, I think he signed up for something. Obviously, when you take over the Mets, regardless of the market, just just something is different about the Mets, it doesn't matter that it's New York. It's just there's something about that organization where funky shit happens. So when you sign up to be the manager of the Mets, you, already know, day one, I got myself in some shit, and then now you're in an organization that hires like Jess Mendoza as it advisor fucking agent as, as their general manager is blessed them their pitching. Coach is fucking ninety eight years old, this all happened in the last six or eight months is it was the age at your hiring just take stock of that entire situation a front office that has been in shambles hires their best pitchers agent. Why we. We all know why. Hey, you could do whatever you want here, as long as you can get degrom to stay here. Fair enough. Just Kim to fucking stay here giving stare, you could be the guy sound good. All right. Fair enough Gobi the guy now you know what? We'll even let you we'll even let you mix at changes during the game. You want to draw the lineup. Fuck who knows send out a tweet lets you sit and cleanup tonight. But it fairness, I don't think that's just a Mets thing. I think a lot of organizations now have their baseball perations departments. Churning out lineup cards for their managers, I don't think that many, how many of them represented there ace the year before that's completely different dynamic. But I'm just saying in the sense that there are not a ton of managers that are making up their own lineup cards. That's the whole point of a baseball rations department is like they're putting in their numbers and they're coming out with whatever line of it. That would be seat. Aaron Boone one and Aaron judge leading off when he came back. That is what the baseball operations job. Is it is not to write those lineups out? It is to provide the front offices and the managers with all of the data necessary all of the impactful data necessary and from there allow the manager and the staff to make an informed uneducated decision. That is the very definition of what a baseball operations unit should be doing now on the other side of that, you are right. That isn't the case. There are puppeteers out there differently puppet managers out there, but I just don't want people thinking, like, oh, baseball operations, you work for a baseball ops department. You're part of writing the lineup that is not the case. There are part of gathering, all of the important information that helps make an educated decision in regards to the lineup but that's not their fucking job. But that responsibility does get placed on these. Guys, and it is a part of what they're doing far more than it ever should be at this point in my opinion, because they're still a baseball feel that has to take place. You just have to know. And if you're just pounding a calculator, you're not in the know it is a fascinating process, like, I, I can't, I mean, it's not that I can't, but I just for the sake of the conversation, I will omit the organization, I've talked to guys in baseball ops. And it's very secretive. Like what they're doing and what they're up to and what they're paying attention to outside of just numbers. They don't they're not just looking at these, like databases, they're looking at all kinds of shit and they're a very curious bunch. It's it's a lot. It's, it's like a fuck and secret service, all I'm gonna let you. So I'm gonna I'm gonna play back for you a little scenario that occurred the other day. I'm talking to one of these baseball ops folks on the field in Oakland. We're watching bullpen. Pins were watching things were having a discussion. And we're starting to talk about spin rate and we're starting to talk about pitch presentation and, and tunneling and like what the end result and stuff. And I said, you know, you're asking for all these numbers, and, and we're getting all these numbers, as far as what the baseball looks like what the baseball's doing, and we're just sort of taking that as our answer and not really, diving into it much after that. And I said to him note, I wanna know I wanna know what type of swing throughs, we're getting as a staff. I don't wanna just accept the fact that the ball is been swimming missed on. I need to know what the attack angle for the opposition is. And I need to know what that is based on what that is per pitch. I'm getting my swing and miss on. So if I'm getting a swing and miss on my fastball elevated in the zone or what I appear to be elevated that doesn't necessarily mean that that hit. Her is swinging underneath my fastball. If he's over top of my fastball forever. I wanna know that typically they're going to be underneath late. But the same thing with Koerbel did he actually try to attack me? And come in underneath me was he shallow or is he actually swing over the top of this, those and the fucking eyeballs on this kid, Jared lit up and was like? Oh my God. Oh, like I just created a whole nother avenue of information for this to try to find it was like scurrying fucking pushes lashes backup onto his nose and all the pens and get them in the pocket, protector and gather all his tech up and run right. Up into his fucking lab, and spend the next three days figuring out shit like that. So they are apps, and it's because this is all proprietary, man, if I'm figuring something out, and I'm applying it, and I'm getting results you think I want twenty nine other teams to have an idea of what I'm doing right now? -absolutely fucking not. And if I'm in that baseball ops department. This is my opportunity to put my name on something. Whether it's an algorithm, or it's a certain. Certain filter of data that I that I've been able to collect and produce that's allowing these players to, to apply and perform, like I want my name to be catched to that. So even if you and I are working in the same baseball ops department. I'm making sure you're not looking at my fucking paper, tell these fools role, which is I love it, though. I really I think it's fascinating. And I mean, there's probably never going to be a camera crew that goes into one teams organization in talks baseball ops people. But what they do because that's a competitive advantage that they're just giving away. So you really do have to talk these people off the record and you'll never know that you come across them. They don't identify themselves to you. They're not in the public image, but it is fast. But to circle back to Mickey Callaway. Real quick. The Mets are not gonna fire him mid-season Micky Calloway's job, especially after this particular incident in my opinion is one hundred percent safe. You had media members calling for his head saying this should be the final straw, the team stinks and now this and they find him. Sure. Yeah. He's gonna pay a nice old tab, but he will not be fired midseason, and I believe that because you look at Jeff wilpon track record in terms of whether or not the decision was justified that's a matter of opinion, but the things that he does decisions that he makes that are then heavily criticized or crucified in the media, he will then stay away from that. And he got ripped to shreds for firing Willie Randolph midseason. He's not going to now go back and fire. Mickey Callaway midseason because a it's admitting fault and be he just he he's trying to learn from his past decisions where it's like, hey, I got fucking dragged for firing a manager midseason. We're not doing that again. So I think he, he might not be safe moving forward. But I don't think that we're going to see a Mickey Callaway firing during the season. No matter how bad it gets. But it's just 'til for me to put optics on the radar of this front office at this point it really is. Yeah. Because it's like, who even talking about, you know, and you need to tell me, you, you give a fuck about how that looks like never pulling on a glass and on the field. But that's what you give about. And if so that's just that is par for this. Course by the way, the phrase is there. Anything more Mets is probably played out. But is there anything more Mets finally having like a star level roof? Who may hit fifty home runs having that season. Be Furling services overshadowed by utter utter. Avoidable bullshit by the shots pita Lonzo he has already is tied or broken broken the Mets single record for home runs by a rookie twenty six by Darrell strawberry pita Lonzo had that. Yeah. June twenty third or whatever. Yeah. That's the thing is that he I mean these single season. Mets home run record is within reach for Pete Alonzo, and he'll probably get there, which is greatest position player in franchise history is probably only a year or two away for Pete. So we crop. It's a week route that was the job. But I'm on. By the way, Jay has turned his hat front words. But when it was backwards, he definitely looked like silent Bob. That's not a compliment. Play a little pepper here. Dow Dallas are you ready uranium playing a little pepper here in Dallas? 'cause we got some things to discuss. Toefl for Jordan Hicks. Didn't see that coming. Yeah. This, this news. I actually I have a heart. I do I have a heart. When I saw this news, I genuinely felt elated. Yeah. Key montage has received an eighty game suspension, one of my favorite things to do because this is become routine as a baseball fan slash on bias national baseball journalists when an eighty game suspension gets handed down. First thing I do is I researched what they tested positive for because I think casual baseball fans or even just the general public that doesn't really care about baseball, but they're fascinated by the controversies that happened within the game. You see an eighty game PD suspension like up steroids steroids. Not everything is steroids. And this was not a steroid, the substance that he tested positive for, but it was a banned substance that has a steroid like affect. So same idea, but not a steroid, and I think that, that does matter. I mean obviously. Trying to be sneaky with all I didn't take a steroid. I took something else. There is a difference. And I think there. I think the other thing that we don't find out right away. This kind of comes out way later is the amount of the substance that was detected. And that might have been from masking agent. We don't know or could have just been something that ended up in, in a in a whatever of substance that they took that was legal. There's a little something in their boom. You're gone. I think when Stephen right got tested positive. They said what they found was the equivalent of like three grains of salt in an Olympic size swimming pool. So there are different measures to it. But Montas catches the ADA game suspension. The first thing I look for is what's the substance second thing. I look for is, is he going to outright say, I did this or is he going to go with the I don't know how it got my body has? That's my favorite. I just tripped and fell into a pile of steroids. Don't know how they're very strange is that McDonald's had some chicken nuggets, boom steroids. To my knowledge he did go with the I don't know how it got my system. Yes. Okay love that. Dallas, your reaction to the I don't know how the substance, God my body because this is for for, you know, anyone that's curious about this stuff. This can be purchase over the counter. This was not like, hey, some shady shit went down to the Dominican talk to my cousin and he hooked me up with something that's in syringe. I mean you could go to you could buy on Amazon right now. It's not that hard to track down, right? If we're going to address this the way that I would like to address this than we can't just get detailed really. Because for me that falls into my explanation. The reason that we're even talking about metabolites the reason that we're even talking about three reigns assault into an Olympic sized pool for Stephen right? That is all engineered that is in place for a reason so that when this happens were not asking the question that needs to be asked, and we're not accepting the only feasible answer as a way to solve this. And we just continue to not move the goalpost back, but move it around it moves laterally, and that's, that's just that's a moving target. And again, that's engineered in place for a reason the idea of using steroids or a PD as been around since the beginning of. Time the whole if you eat genius try and approach. So it's about a business decision, and I've said this, so many times, it's about a business decision. And if it's a PD usage, will get into that for Frankie, Montas. Whether it's a fertility pill, whether it's a hydration pill. Whether it's anything other than what you're taking from the clubhouse itself that's already in there, you know that there is a risk and responsibility factor involved. And you get that beaten into your head the minute you become a professional and start to receive a paycheck, so from that point in time on it is your responsibility. And there's really no other person that you can tab to be responsible or accountable for that because it's on you. It's your body. It's your career. It's on you. So what we have in place is a phone number. That's available for you to save in your phone. You walk into the store. You've got a question about a product or the contents of a product, you whip out your phone you, call these people. If they can't give you the answer there, make your purchase take a sample out. Out since it off. They'll tested for free sit it back to and let you know, you're good, or you're not good. We have the ability to do that. That's in place. So if you want to go to the store and buy it, and come home, and take it and not wait. Well, that's a risk your running against who's going to be responsible for that. You are. So with that being said, regardless of, whether it was a P E D or not. We have things in place to make sure that you taking a really aggressive Advil, isn't gonna fuck you up. So that's your responsibility as a player. Now, let's go to the idea of it being a PD. Let's say he was actually looking for an advantage here. What you need to understand about this folks. Is this is simply a business decision at this point based on the punishment that has been levied based on the punishment? That is in place for major league baseball. This is simply a business decision for folks, and nothing more. Let me. Plane that to you, breaking Montas entering the season had to make the roster out of options needing a third pitch to compete and stay in the big leagues. He's faced with a very different spring training than a guy that says, I dunno has eight years in the big leagues. Just signed a one year flyer deal. But he's guaranteed a spot, right? Those are two very different places. In a big league career yet could be after the very same thing. And listen. Frankie montage, again, has to make the roster out of options. So he's got decisions to make do I run the risk. What's the return on investment here? Right. I need to be in the big leagues. I need to make money for my family for that guy who's eight years in. He's thinking I need to get to that ten year, Mark. I want my full pension. I've already got my money so I'm after a World Series, and I'm after my ten years, though. Those guys are in very different boats. But it's about a business is at the end of the day for Frankie. Mom toss there's things that players evaluate. There's three things not just for Frankie for anybody evaluating whether or not they're going to do this, you evaluate whether or not you are somebody who can handle the blowback the criticism from the public the scrutiny can you handle free Astles on a podcast telling the world that you should have gone about it differently? If the answer to that is, yes, you've already cleared one hurdle. The second hurdle is can your family. Can you face them or you okay? Do they understand what decision you're about to make going down this road? I'm going to use something illegal. Here's why maybe it's to get me back to a place that I was before an injury. Maybe it's because I just need this boost. Whatever does your family understand. And are they? Okay if the answer to that question is, yes, you've cleared that hurdle and there's one more hurdle left. Are you a player? It was good enough that after you get that pop after you get banged, or you're going to be given the opportunity on the other side to show that it wasn't steroids or wasn't PD's that got this performance out to you? And if the answer to that is, yes, if you think you're good enough, if you think you've got the tools that other teams are going to come calling all you've done is evaluate a business decision the pros and cons or return on investment, and you're saying yet, on all fucking in have you seen the amount of money, we make big league ballplayers, you're telling me three Astles on a podcast and maybe a bad article is all I'm really going to have to deal with if I'm going to be given the opportunity to play baseball again. Fuck, yeah. Here's your pen and paper, a load the fucking Aitken your printer for your mother fucker. I'm getting paid because at the end of this, I'm going to country club that you're not I'm going on a vacation that you're not my family, and they're great kids are taken care of, and yours aren't but you've got your opinions off. You got the. Click on your article didn't you good for you. I got my money did night. Good for me. So what are we complaining about here and it's all because the rules are what they are. You can keep coming back until you do it enough. We'll just tell you to fuck off. Well, now let's talk about that guy who's got eight years in the game who's been faced with that decision. Right. He's not a Frankie Montas doesn't have to make the roster. He's out of options and he's probably made his money if he's talking about an eight year. Bigly career. Good chance. He'll be all right. So he's after two things are ring and the pension. So say he gets popped well, you know what you do you eliminate his ability whatsoever to make any more money other than the league minimum and then you allow folks you allow teams to have a bidding war. So let's say somebody wants to page your corrobos twenty million dollars after being popped for steroids. Outstanding you know what happens you're going to send that nineteen million. Ninety five or nine hundred fifty thousand five hundred thousand dollars two great now to to the rest of the team and to the rest of the league, and that's going to be distributed evenly, kind of, like when you go and try to sign an international guy right posting fee that you have to pay. So, so if the Red Sox because that's your team wants to pay. Jared, the PD offender twenty million dollars will outstanding but they actually don't have to pay him league minimum and the other nineteen and a half that they were willing to commit gets put into a pool that goes back into the leaf there's ways around this. The problem is we just don't wanna do it. It's natural selection. Kind of like we're doing with minor league pay. No, no, no. We're not gonna we're not gonna upped the ante we're gonna we're going to allow you to eat yourselves and cannibalize yourselves and the ones who make it to the top the strong sperm. They get the and that's kind of what this is keep fucking up. Don't go ahead. I it'd be easier way for us to weed, you out of here because if we install this lifetime ban this, you know then than now. We're just Astle. So, we'll let you we'd yourselves out because nobody wants that Pete Rose label. Right. Nobody wants to have that, that black flag flying over there. Tassell. He's just never allowed in the hall. Could you imagine living that kind of suspension to Frankie montage right now? That'd be terrible. Right. Because freaky, Mantell punishment, folks. Whether you believe it or not is greater than you'll ever be able to put on him when he has to steer his little boy, in the face and explain to him, what's going on. He has the stairs, family in the face and explain to them, what's going on. But again, if you've already had those conversations if you already made those decisions this is just a formality. This is just a businesses you right? While said, while said, Dallas, by the pay the big bucks. Blake China is going on the injured list with some shoulder issues. What do you got on Blake trying and also hasn't even really been the best reliever in as bullpen this year? So. Obviously, you don't wanna lose Blake Trenton, but you have a guy who can slot right in there. And in your Gucci at times, blade trainings willingness and desire to be a fucking Clydesdale can get in his way. He wants the ball and he'll take the ball three days in a row. And give you six outs three days in a row, if you let him, and I think, Blake has put a ton of expectation on himself after a record setting historical campaign understandably. So because as athletes, you want to challenge yourself. I can do better than that. That was standing. But I've got more in the tank. And I think what was asked of Blake last year and asked up some of those guys last year like it or not, as probably having a residual effect at this point, as far as I don't know, it's not over usage because that wasn't it I think, I mean, it's a combination may be of volume at times, and these guys bodies, maybe just not bouncing back as quickly as it would have if usage was different or if they had more time to bounce back the bottom line is Blake trying and shoulder is barking. It's not so serious that they feel like there's, there's no structural damage which is great. It's what's a strain grade. One strain, just probably some fraying and some inflammation in there. And here's the other thing, it wasn't ninety two. You know this guys throw a ninety eight ninety nine one hundred mile an hour singers. It's not down to ninety two ninety three like at times it is because those are cutters and sliders, and those balls are moving eight tonight. Inches, but it was ninety six ninety seven but it's a little flatter. Doesn't have the depth. That's a big deal for guys like that. So what they do have though is a guy in Liam Hendriks, who's been able to stand up and sort of fill in at the moment. For Blake, which is great because there hasn't been a ton of guys that have been able to do that down there in the as bullpen. So you lose a you lose. Baseball's best closer last year you lose him this year right now for a stretch. It's tough. It's very tough for a team has been reliant upon their bullpen. And that piece hasn't been the foundation that you'd like it to be either a few Nogues on trying in. I mean, we know he was much better last year, but it's kind of start to see the difference eighty and a third innings last year. He allowed to homers. He's allowed three homers in thirty five and a third innings this year. So not even half the innings pitched. You look out the strikeout-to-walk ratio a hundred strikeouts to twenty one walks last year. Thirty six strikeouts to twenty one walks this year that yeah it's not even close as walk rate has doubled from last year. And so, and to the point, when you don't feel right when you just don't feel right? There's a lot of things that get masked. And you think guys just getting his ass kicked. You think? A guys just get beat up. And that's that's just I mean, for me, it's not the case watching Blake because I've seen the stuff and I've seen the difference in the stuff he's just not the same duties, not right. He's not healthy. And you're not gonna get those same results. I know that. And I think those numbers do a great job reflecting that. No, it's, it's, it's, it's a shitty situation. But obviously, like you said, I guy wants to one up himself. You could tell that even at the end of the season, he was a little ga-. He wasn't the dominant Blake trying and in that wildcard game. I think I mean but also he was asked to do a lot in that game say, hey, be the savior when you're used to being a one inning guy, maybe five outs here and they're not three innings or whatever it was that he was asked out there and do it's like you, you just run out of gas. But yeah, the as the it's still regardless of having a decent replacement. Still bad news. Same thing for the cardinals Jordan Hicks. This is a torn UCLA. I hate to say that you kinda saw coming, but when a guy's blowing one, oh, four. It is kind of a matter of time. But then you, you know, you look at the oldest Chapman's of the world and the it is possible to throw that hard and not eventually run into Tj sir. Surgery. But when you see a guy throwing one oh four a young guy. It's it kind of it felt inevitable here. We are Jordan Hicks torn UCLA. They for some reason, the cardinals have announced Tommy, John surgery. They're like our going to look at other options. What other options are there at this point? Well, let's just the that's the protocol. I mean, they're the options depending on the level of the strain, which is the word that's used which is just a fancy word not really a fancy word, but just a different word other than tear, depending on the level of the severity of the tear. There are other options PRP is an option. That's -pletely. Rich plasma injections, very painful, by the way, not fun. Not fun at all. There's stem cell therapy that can be done. There's, there's a there's a lot. There's a lot of alternative approaches that, that can be that can be taken before. There you go under the knife. And I think is always trying to find a way to not get cut. That is just if you can. That's why you get two maybe three opinions. But I remember getting like a fourth opinion on my shoulder the last time like you sure you sure there's not a fuck it rain dance. We could do. Are you sure you know what I mean? Like a weedy board shit you stick in my ear, lobes, or something, that'll make this all go away. You sure all right? Cut it off fine. So that's, that's that's where we're at. Kind of shame, too 'cause he'd, he'd really kinda show last year. I think we were all kind of underwhelmed with velocity to results translation kind of air. I mean like whip is good. But the strike on numbers are just I mean I don't understand it. No, that's fair. But it had made a substantial increase even from last year, like his strikeout rate was up to twenty eight percent from twenty one his walk rate was down from thirteen to ten so I'm with I'm with you. That a twenty percent strikeout rate and ten percent. Walk rate is still a little bit underwhelming for what for one hundred and five miles an hour. And what you see in the stuff, but it was still disappointed because he had taken a step. Even if there was another step to go. Yeah. And I think I mean, Jay, maybe this is something you would wanna look into now that I think about it's probably something I'll take a dive into, like how, how efficient is he with his breaking ball in and around the strike zone. That's something that I would really dive into to probably get me an answer on why, why is not punching folks out. Because we know maybe we can have that by the end of the podcast. It could be a hundred and five all day long. But if you're not competitive around the zone with other things, you're not giving these hitters anything to respect in grad in the big leagues one hundred five with nothing else that might as well fuck. Ninety-two. Yeah. It's fascinating to me, how I mean, this is if you have a one hundred and four to five mile an hour, sinker again, this is not a four seam fastball time, it's it's one of four with movement. And this is a guy that should have two times as many strikeouts innings pitched. And I think he has maybe three or four more strikeouts than than pitched. It's. But yeah, obviously speed recovery to him. But the, the cardinals are going to have to look elsewhere, at least for a year, maybe even through the twenty twenty season. Because every even now like a year is optimistic. They did sign Andrew Miller. Andrew Miller, did not get off to the hottest of starts, but he's got a two seven zero Yara twenty five strikeouts. In is last twenty two appearances. But it was interesting candidates close Vanni go is it Gallego? How, how do you say guy goes Giovanni gatehouse who some numbers on him a zero nine to ER a five, six whip and a ten nine eight strikeouts per nine over his last seventeen appearances and over that span of the eighty three were relievers with at least fifteen appearances geigo has the fifth best ERA and the best whip in the majors. Stat guy guy goes was the guy who ended up in Saint Louis in the Luke Voight trade from the Yankees. Wow. Wow. So you're saying the cardinals won that trade saying. Yo another name to watch could this be the next act in Carlos Martinez career? Ooh ballgames. He's been pretty decent for them in a relief and believed she'll just came out and said that there are no immediate plans to transition him back into the rotation. I don't know. Closing ballgames and pacing yourself out through a ballgame or completely different things. But I think somewhere in there lies, a very similar mentality, you have to have a certain level of focus and discipline that tells you I have a job to do right now I have a job to do right now. And you need that in the ninth inning you need that as a starter. It doesn't appear that he's been able to grasp that concept fully because the stuff the stuff he's been able to dominate folks at the big league level with the stuff, it's about holding the focus, and is that somebody who at times, couldn't be volatile that you want to rely upon to get the most important outs in your baseball game, but ten most important house to get near baseball game, not say I mean there's we're not questioning the stuff right? We're not questioning whether that shit can play in the ninth inning. I think it's more about can the player play ninth-inning fair question. Ask I'm still going guy goes. The guy your sofa millions Gallegos gal yoga's. Print the shirts. Faulty another starting nine alum bites the dust. I mean, how many fucking guys have been on this podcast? There were excellent. Ed shares the bed, I starting to rub works in mysterious ways. Well, Lucas g Lido comes on. He goes from a leading the league in earned runs and walks to potentially starring the all star game for the American. I'm not gonna let Mike Fulton evidence to motion cloud. What is day legitimate starting nine role how we had we had Aaron Boone and Alex Cora on this podcast. And then they were magically just out of nowhere names, the managers of two most percentage franchises in sport. Okay. Yeah. It was two petitions by themselves outweigh fifty Mike, Fulton evidence, j you bring up a good point. And look, this is not me. Bashing faulty at all. Not at all. But I, I will say this much, there was a time in a place if I remember correctly where we may or may not have had the ability to secure that individual and their time at the all star game. And it was kind of told to us that. Around about way. There was probably going to be a mob factor or a mob affect. There was going to be an inability to kind of keep at bay. Maybe some fans that would be storming the areas that we had corn tnd off that we were kind of hanging out in. And we weren't able to get the incite or the sit down or the time that we were after that we were told we would get. So you're right, j while there is a positive rub that is clearly in full effect. I'm not gonna say that there's a negative side to the rub. I'm just going to say that. There's an individual who maybe wasn't able to come through, and now well, they're not going to be able to come through for. Well, yeah. I mean there is I think we've, we've probably mentioned this guy before, but I know needs to bring his name up again. There's someone else who turned us down during spring training who immediately got hurt for a long period. So. Yeah. I mean don't, don't fuck with the starting nine ju you saw the most of the guys that came on during spring training. They immediately got a lot of money. They were prepared properly for the twenty nine hundred season. Yeah, I mean Christian we, we've essentially turned Christian yelich into into Barry Bonds, go. He kind of is exactly Christian yelich though is that. He's very humble and bear. Berry knows how giddy is Christian yelich. I don't think realizes just how good he is Christian yelich cares. He doesn't care how good he is. Like I think he knows how good he is. He's like, yeah, I know. I mean that's cool or whatever. But he's just so mellow mellow. Like he I feel like you know this run that he's on could be over tomorrow. He'll be like. Well, you know how to run. It was pretty good. All right. Cool. Rollovers sweet. Yeah. Just a very, very down to earth. Cooled understand. Why he's good knows wise. Good doesn't need to share it with everybody. Let's the bat do the talk. The defense do the talking so yeah, there's look doesn't mean that Jared, I or not smarting up and ready to rub up. I'm ready to go at all times. But I'm just trying to think if Mukhi walks. And you kinda just wait like another year. Christian yelich is last one hundred and sixty two games three forty one four twenty eight seven six with fifty seven homers one hundred forty. One hundred and forty five RBI one hundred thirty eight runs and thirty two stolen bases. A hundred forty five Rb is in a hundred and thirty two runs thirty eight runs. Don't cheat them. All over his last say that again. One hundred sixty two games one hundred. So a full season, quote unquote home runs fifty seven home runs opium of over what twelve hundred has yet. Yep. A no PS over twelve hundred. Sorry, I'm trying to find it. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry eleven hundred eleven thirty four is the three forty one batting average fifty seven homers one hundred and forty five RBI one hundred and thirty eight runs in thirty two stolen bases. That is preposterous. Behaviorally video game number. Yeah. I mean you're talking about not even exaggerating that has to be one of the best one hundred sixty two games stretches in baseball history. It would imagine Barry Bonds doing shit. Like that for a decade is doing that in asleep. But quick note on fully. This is another case of the long ball killing a guy last year. Seventeen homers one hundred eighty three innings pitched this year sixteen homers in fifty nine in third. It's baseball. I'm so tired of shila. It's the baseball j nine point six percent of his fly balls last year turned into home runs. Twenty point five percent of his fly balls have turned into home runs this year so over double his fly balls or leaving the yard at double the rate they did last year. And I just I can't like I'd love to see maybe get into this. What's is average exit velocity that he's yielding standby. I saw Christian yelich hit a ball. On Sunday that almost hit the fucking wall, and was never more than like ten feet off the ground. Errand hits the fuck and missile that Eric the other day. Shit. He hit a ball and the bat drop the backdrop that ball should've went I thought it was going a thousand feet wages drop the bell. I thought that bowl was legit going to hit the second level maybe even the third deck of fucking Yankee. Stay on a line going up was shot upon over the weekend. The fuck it inside out on talk. Oh fuck. Rookie Smith comes up to the plate, and he gets jammed on the hands edit goes for sitter out kill right? Fuck it sitter corrobos shove as repeat seat. Todd Frazier get pissed and like throw his bat down, or like whip his bat after ball and the ball went out fucking home, or it's a joke. It is rate up joke, by the way, Foltz and exit velocity is essentially identical to what it was last year, fifty earth's percentile, so basically average exit velocity so associated. So you tell me that right there, Jay? All right. You're the fucking nerd, you got your lock your protect your on. What, what about that? You're, you're reading those numbers, and you're just like, oh, nothing to see here, nothing. I'm not saying I know you're not. But now I'm asking you to speak up for fucking nerd Ville now not like okay. Okay. So I'll speak up for nerd Ville. There have been studies that have existed for over a year now, by, like the smartest of the smart people. Okay. Alan Nathan, who is a widely respected physicists. There have been he's written books. He's written studies. He's like noncontroversial. They wrote about how the ball they studied the ball and the ball is different. That was concluded a long long time ago. And this idea that there's been some sort of mystery as to the baseball, and what constituted whether there's been a change. There really is. No mystery. The mystery is just why it isn't one hundred percent accepted at this point as opposed to whatever percentage it because OPEL Manford is lying folks. That's why tell. The people tell the people on command for tell tell the people what you've done with their balls. What did you do to my house? I feel what do you think the reaction would be? I think people will be more upset that they tried to cover it up for so long versus just admitting that. Yeah we try to do something with the balls to increase the offense because. I think people take steroids or conversely, we didn't do anything to the balls intentionally and they were manufactured differently, which has happened throughout baseball history. That would not be a first okay? So whether it was intentional or unintentional. The idea is, why don't we just say what it is Jay Europe, into Costa Rica. No, I have let me tell you. They're not sitting around Costa Rica. They're not sitting around the rich coast plotting on how to fuck with these baseball's that's being made. Plot. I'm not saying if it was done unintentionally by major league baseball that it was done intentionally by somebody in a factory. 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What do you got him? Get you love him. Three times star two time World Series champion and above fucking house and resident psycho with the haircut in the is all the above one bad equip, who is this dude, you know, hunter Pitts hunter, thanks for taking the time, brother, good to have you. Well, what an inch showdowns man. Thank you. Previous great to be here. Great to Hannity, my friend. As as we sit here today. I don't feed up in California. We've had some issues over there and do your city at the studio. But I doubt nonetheless. And when you fight you if I'm not mistaken, or you'll catch this, I no, no way we are in Detroit right now. Oh, you're you're in Detroit. You got an off day. I wanna ask you, because you are now with the Rangers originally drafted by the Astros. We know about the career kind of come full circle, but here you are out back home. What, what is it like now to find yourself to that play defense in the state shirt happened early you've gone through a shitload of the big league level in find yourself back here kind of where it all began in front of the hometown crowd? If you will what kind of mean to you have experienced what you have up to this point. And now here you are sort of able to, I don't wanna say put a bow on it 'cause you ain't done not by a long stretch. But really kind of the latter part of the career is bid at home in front of the folks, you love how fucking cool is that all I wanna I say, everything has been extremely cool. And I think you know this Dallas, like plan and, and bigly. In the big leagues. If you baseball, you know, it is a remarkable blessing. And, and it's just a complete joy. And literally every city that I've gotten to play for and gotten to learn about. No and experience. I've been extremely thankful for have had just absolute wonderful time in Houston house there. Now where it's been my off seasons. Philly was just an incredible. Noah's this quick, one year, but mandate, I learn a lot about that city that I love that city was awesome. And then kinda trade it not expectedly and, you know the roller coaster being traded, when you when you don't expect it is and ended up being just as a maze. Ing journey over to San Francisco. And that place, as you know, completely changed my life, I met my wife there absolately love that, that, that city in organization and you know, it got to be a part of some amazing teams that did some wonderful things and. And you know memories in forever changed by being giant. And then, you know, I, I gotta ask. I gotta ask you, what is it like going from the city of brotherly, but, like you mentioned, you know, opiates a quick time a quick trip, three dollars if you will, but yeah, brotherly love. That's bad base. Right. On into San Francisco, especially with the way those boys were playing ball at the time. What is what is that transition like? You know, it was it was definitely, it was definitely crazy. Because, you know, we were the Phillies hit on a five years in a row today. Shin expected to win chasing Ryan housing first half, you know, in, you know, it was it was definitely, the, you know, a tough time to, to not be, you know, for them to sell at the break, because I thought they were still clear trying to win when those guys got back and you know, it was, but it was exciting because the giants were young no one really expected a turn out of them if they had won the one World Series so obviously being in the playoff races a big deal and it was it was just really exciting. I got to experience the giants dodgers robbery really quickly. And at that time was was really intense, and those games were super fun. Because both teams are really good man. Yeah. You know, I don't really know how to explain it other than just a roller coaster and an exciting time and, and no, he really can't beat getting traded over. Or being. I think we were either a game up or game back and we have Wednesdays by ten and then ran on. And while won the World Series. So it was a pretty spectacular memory from me, that's for sure. Fuck of unreal. You Kimmy walked right into the fucking postseason. How many people I give my left testicle to, to, to enjoy that? That, that, that's phenomenal talks about the, the, the actual I dunno was something that you would kind of know you hear about growth. You watch baseball. You gotta feel for you know the Yankees SOX dodgers giants. Like you mentioned. But kind of getting into that was that something that was, like, kind kinda presented to you Kate. And I don't know if you understand this, but we hate the dodgers. Welcome to the giant was that kind of something that you that you grow into having play those dudes nineteen times a year. Like how how it that kinda how did it? How was it possessed it to you? And I guess how did you handle that? Well, when I get over there, there's always a lot of build up. And I, I honestly didn't know how, how big it was until, like, if I wore a blue shirt on like, and I was seeing or posted it on social media. Like a lot of like navy blue and blue shirts. And it was like people did not like blue. And this is not as soon as I posted one with the blue. All right. All the blues out whenever wearing blue again. The party you just like, you know, and rivalries like that or actually wonderful sports. And you know, wouldn't say hate the dodgers, but we love to play them. And we love to beat the dodgers, especially when you're giant, and you look for those series especially with both teams are good the electricity the energy to pulse of the fans when those teams are good really can't beat it. Other than, you know, the other the other are the rivalry seems like it's, it's pretty exciting electric as well. Yankees Red Sox. You got the east coast and the west coast robberies they're beautiful for baseball and all the all the all the people involved. You know, typically enjoy it. We talked about rivalries, obviously, what are the main recipes in, in a rivalry is emotion. You had the opportunity to be a part of that rivalry, but you were on the team eighteen eight of one of the more emotional yet, almost like. Folklore folk tale type characters in Madison Bumgarner, and we all know about the history between him and plea. And the reason I bring that up is point to lead me this. We talk about, and we see backflips going on these days. We pitchers. Did you see the kid in the callers series, the other day after punching homeboy out walking off the field? I think he was he was sharing his favorite coffees is like flex sickles flood sickles or something to that nature. I think you saying seen that video that I saw the clip of it. I didn't see it live. I just saw on the on the Instagram. All right. So you don't know why he did it or when he did it or what the that was or what player done before. They know each other like there's so many things, I don't know about that moment. Oh, sure, sure. And yet believe me, I'm not looking to get into that specific scenario, but it was later in the ball game, and it was a big punch out and video just kinda shows the guy walking off the mound, and he's looking in at the hitter and from there, you can see the pitchers face, like kind of light up like he's reacting to maybe gesture or facial gestures, something from the hitter. And then he just tells them twice. Like whoa rescue. But I asked you, that because we see flip in the bat at a ridiculous rates balls flying out of the port ridiculous rate starting pitchers kind of create their own little celebration or their own little version of the backflip. Here's this thing that you are here for something that needs to be sorted out. Is this something that we need to turn it keep old school? Like where where do you stand on this, because you're a dude who I said, man, you come into the game with your fucking hair on fire? Love what you clay the game. I loved the approach I loved the intensity. So there's something that tells me you're a guy who I would love to be in the foxhole there, which is why I want to know where your mind that was shit like this, because of her on a team you don't send them taking a bullet for you like you or not doesn't matter off the field. Maybe we don't have dinner, but on the field under kevlar vest. So I need to know what hundred things about this shit. Well, first off just go on and say these are all, you know, opinions and I do think that all of these things find a way to work themselves out themselves. You know, some people people are going to take exceptions things. Some people are people aren't there's gonna be fights. There's gonna be not fights is gonna be all sorts of stuff, and that's the beauty of sports. That's the beauty of baseball. I mean I just got back from winter ball and man did I ever have a blast? They I mean what will go pitcher did is like miniscule to, like every single strike out of could be the first and the guys leg and move walk in doing a trip. And they just love it. And you know, played with that was that. Yeah. And that was, and that was the first time. Where'd you play you play Mexico? Or you wouldn't put DR did you? I went to DR Dominican Republic. I was completely changed. My swing this off season. So I, I started like two days after the season working with a hidden guy. Actually Justin Turner is hitting guy. And then I worked with him for month and a half went to winter ball for month and a half to, to work it in games practice, little bit longer, and then came into spring training feeling like the new human these sway, and it was a lot of fun. But back to their original question, though. And like like I said, all these to me are pinions, and I have a, you know, my theory is he who angers you conquered you? So therefore, like, oh, like I'm, I I'm kinda more like the collide Leonard where like I don't care how it gets done. What gets done. What happens all the that takes like I'm here to win the game yet you do? I went to look to see who won the game. And it looked like Vanderbilt won the game. So. I think is that who won the game. I believe, so, yes. I mean that's the mission. I mean, the reason I put on, you know, the reason I put in all the work and do all that. And I'm willing to back my teammates, because you need to be strongest knit team. You have, and you need to be focused in on tasks to win the game to win, you know, to continue to reach those dreams, those goals of doing some, that's greater than yourself something greater than yourself as to, you know, winning a championship for your college for your city for your stadium for your family for all of the people that are involved with the organization, all of the memories and all of the inspiration of the people that you, you know, are in touch with. So to me, it's bigger than one moment, me in guy, or guy show and be up. You're representing your family representing your uniform, and so many other people in a bigger thing, and you don't know what kids watching? So to me, I want to be an example of like you said being a great teammate being a player that plays the game to win no matter how you know what, what happens. And also when when I do get beat and. Level at the highest level, I lose with dignity, and respect. And I honor and congratulate you 'cause I came, you know, as Tom Brady one said, he's like sacrificed my life for this game. So you'd better have done the same beat me like let's go like I'm all in. I'm ready. And I'm gonna get my cats you and I'm gonna enjoy the competition. That is that is a goose blow type buck in response. Are you kidding me? I've got a brick wall out back hundred it's probably not gonna be. Are you? Look, that's just the way I look at it, and, and it doesn't matter to be what you do your and honestly, I enjoyed the entertainment of the sand. So like all that stuff. I it doesn't it doesn't affect me, as long as you're not threatening the F U thing I might have had a problem with. But like those things like I said worked themselves out dancing, and, and, and doing your thing, it doesn't matter to me. I think we can all agree that at the certain point in time. And, you know, those magic words time you're trying to get a feel for the strike zone behind you. Right. You look back there out that as far down, as we're gonna goes that about as far high. It goes. But if you look back there and tell him you or horseshoe won't properties about yourself an early shower that that's shit. That's the flexibility there. So it's all about how you that's how you massage it totally understood getting back to you making the point about the close knit team via Greek teammate. It's been well documented, but the but the grounds crew the folks were listening to just so you know. Diverse listening base here. You've got this insight. We've got other parents who are absolute cycles for letting their kids. Listen to this. We got everybody all over the place. They all know, and they over member that extremely impassioned and motivated speech use wrote down in the dugout two thousand twelve I had a little insight to what was going on. Obviously, my best friend being Brian Wilson. Not the pitch at the time but was still around the club to be a part of it, but he bore witness to that. What comes over you? I don't remember two minutes. Thirty seconds, whatever before you're like Boyce gathering little campfire, uncle hunters got fucking. What, what, what, what we to that? Well, I mean, it was built up momentum much bigger than just even myself, you know, and, and actually Wilson was a huge catalyst to, you know, a lot of our talks, you know, before I ever gave any speeches or before any of this was ever, you know, brought, I was just kind of the messenger and, you know, you know, there's always the, the, you know, the elders of every team and the ones, you know, when you care you, you, you willing to say anything to anything and, you know Wilson was one of the great informers leaders, and, and just giving me great great ideas and insights in what, you know, timing, and he was he was giving us everything he had even though he wasn't out. They're able to play mentally and spiritually. And then you know obviously hobby Lopez. Jeremy Affeldt BUSTER, Posey's scooter. Oh scooter. Oh was unbelievable. And they were just like if they something were dead, and we were like, no, we're not. We're not ready to die like we're not ready to be out of this. And so we'll say anything we just kinda all bounce it around. And I just became the messenger in, you know, and, and honestly, it was just I don't even know how to explain it. Almost like blackout and just go crazy. We all. That series. Get what I said, let me help me. Gay Siri delivered message. Fuck and sent. That's all that would. Credible. A team that you mentioned. We'll see you mentioned a lot of other guys that were impactful, especially streets. But. Mold underpins into talking about maybe. Or under wall when you were just Wooltel trying to out which aunt, we're gonna put that solo that glove on, maybe it was somebody that you rolled up to your first big-league camp. It was like, okay, you know what this guy is this guy. He's helping me out who those early influences for you. My early influences you come out just a little bit for me. But I think you said the early influences. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So I have many, many influences coming up, but obviously me and my brother, my brother's four years older than me. I mean, it was kind of our, our journey together, you know, every summer like you know, getting in growing up in Texas. It's hot and just filling up water. Coolers and going and play baseball all day until the sun went down every day in the summer and practicing on our own and you know, playing with the ball games and tape ball games. And, you know, he went to us before me and start giving me all the stuff they were doing in college, and he wants to pro ball before he was give me all that stuff how to train how to do this. And you know it was both of our like pure love and passion. And like he's been with me through all of this also had a couple of other, you know, significant people darn Warner who I believe, is still with the Orioles. He's just like. Minor league core. Minor league catching coordinator, maybe he's had a couple of major league jobs. But his son Ryan Warner was on my high school team. And I didn't have a car and high school, and I would just stay at the field and he was a minor league coach at the time, and he would just come up there and like him be grounders, everyday taught me, a whole bunch about staying inside the baseball and swinging we just played literally like once again, till the sun went down to my dad could come and give me and I mean I didn't really wanna go home, because that's what I wanna do. So, you know, I think it's pivotal, if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have had a lot of the guidance. It wasn't for my brother. You know, that was it was kind of our thing. And he's, he's still, you know, my best friend and knows everything about everything and follows every game more than anyone. So those were two that I think everything every baseball player has like, someone who really is like a big partner, and has a lot of help and a lot of assistance to make it to as far as you know, the big leagues just like you Dallas. I'm sure you have a similar story of someone that just like you really connected with. That, that changed your life. So I've had a lot of help, and those are two of the best. That's, that's incredible. You're absolutely right. 'cause a lot of times it's not really it's not really a coach as the -sarily it could just be somebody maybe neighborhood somebody who just kind of gets you from aid to be that allows that dream to be realized and they don't believe, they don't know where realize themselves how big of an impact, they're having on their life, your brother. He's just being brother. Right. He he's cool opportunities and he's over doing exactly what he would do overhaul with you look up and holy shit. I've raised a Piggly, that's gonna be awesome feeling not only for your family. But the for your brother as well. You talked about how that your, your wife said, you met your wife in San Francisco, you're just a baseball player, your for lack of a better phrase English absolute during way possible your fucking weirdo. And I am I am here for. But like the level of Where'd it goes to you, and I actually talked about this. I'm starting to get into the, the coffee. See your facet. Call dude of what your video game guy, or your guy or board game guy. 'cause like your book like and all that, aren't you? Yeah, I'm into honestly, I just loved competing like and I love to play games. I love to play. I'm into anything to be honest with you like I enjoy video games. I can get down with, like rocket league smash brothers, you know, I like that, you know, car games like magic I like board games like sellers could ton- you know, really just anything that that brings people together and have a good time just, and that's why I feel like coal sorts so fun because it has options to do all that. But also, that's kind of what our houses game night, just play in hanging out, laughing and chilling but yeah, I don't mind getting into some weird stuff that you not everyone knows about, like keep an that's for sure. I wouldn't be or so you're, you're on an off day. You've got the world at your feet to go wherever you like to go, where is, what is your favorite city in the league to experience an off day in all right to eight millions land on are like, oh my God, it's underpins. He's on an off day where. Man. That's tough to say 'cause all the cities are so good in different ways. Wow. You know, typically I always liked to. There's good coffee. That's my main. My main thing is waking up going at breakfast and coffee. You know, obviously, it's hard to and not everyone's gonna agree with this, but for me because I have a house in Houston. It's always awesome to be Houston have so many coffee shops, and I know the food, and you know, it's home for me. So I love I lo- being there. That's a great off-day anywhere in California, 'cause the weather's amazing Colorado's great have a amazing coffee. Shop I go to their called little Al copy. Yeah. View cities. They're great awesome. Is that is that spot in Colorado? Is that near the field? It's near the hotel. Yeah. Actually, you can walk for middle out coffee to the field. Typically, I'll walk from the hotel too little the field. And that'd be my morning. Every day your morning. Jaunt. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how is your copy going, by the way else, it's going great man? It really is. It's going great. I'm finding out that I'm a huge fan of the dark roast. Like I went from looking at people who drink the dark rose to drink their coffee, black. Like they were absolute like not the kiss to now. I'm like, no, no. Honestly. Give me black. Let it brew for probably double the time. And I'm all in. I'm big portal. Her guy, you know, I I'm, I'm dabbling in the ice will, I still I'm doing novice though. I'm trying to try what might be in terms of talent. Pour over gonna get it really is. I feel like it is. And you know, far more than I would. 'cause, you know, my life's not the fancy this spread so Johnny with all the. Bells and whistles and shit. And I feel like it's more of a fucking chemistry project for me to figure that out. Then it is just simply poured over. So I could be case. Grinding, them and Orrin water or you know. Feels good, doesn't it? It's like we come in, like it's like just being part of the earth, you know, like, that's why love, you know, coffee grind Bruton like, yeah, it makes me feel good on a big fan of the fruit of the or hundreds of furnace providing flowers. Trust me. I'm doing everything. I can't consume. I wanna taste them. You have been very gracious with your time. We appreciate that one question. We do at all of our guests. What relevent Bill? If I can put you in a hot tub time machine and take you back any moment in baseball history. Any moment you can be there to relive it. What is it? I mean I'm a hundred percent system bachelor with Babe Ruth, it would be really any any opportunity to talk to Babe Ruth any of his World Series championships. Many probably the Homer that he called that would be another one. But yeah, I mean you know, every baseball he's like the face of, of baseball history, America's pastime, he's got the charisma got that he just had the style of the class, the everything. And I just love studying him. I love every picture of and, you know, I, I always, you know, just get full full that like childish, awesome energy, every time I see anything that has to do with abor. So that would definitely be anything anytime any moment to just say, Hello, shake. Sam. I am with you. I can't say we are. There's roughly fifty percent of this podcast. That is Babe Ruth from the podcast. I represent that fifty percent. I've got a picture of Babe Ruth who was present at a stadium in Stockton, California. Colleague, the name of the stadium. Is Billy Heaver field, but he's actually standing on that student. He played in that stadium during the born storming off season days, and that picture hangs ominously in or great room in my home. So I have a long you do in vapors. That's why like surely on. God. It's the second coming toward. So I, I really yeah. That's awesome. I wanna see one day I'm invited myself over whenever I'm around. Well, what coffee? We'll have caught here. Neighbors. Yeah. Good time. Appreciate your brother, take time. Enjoy that off day man dose. Thanks for having me on your show, pre sheet it all the best. My man take care. Shout out two hundred Pence for making the time. Obviously, I know you're, you're, you're making the rounds you're trying to you're trying to get yourself on that all star team. Sure he's talking to other outlets. None more important than started nine. But thank you, two hundred Pence for making the time, obviously Dallas mentioned earlier shocker, there was some technical difficulties on the barstool end of things, and we were able to make it happen. He was patient throughout that process. Instead stemming there's some guys in this league. We'll name any names, but you make them sit around me. Hey, sorry, barstool you, you know, the deal we got fucking squirrels chewing on the wires. We gotta wait a little second before we can have you come on the podcast. Yeah. Sorry. Maybe next time that, that's you know that's the thing that happens with some guys not hundred Pence. He's a guy at one point in time. One hundred Pence was legitimately offering solutions. At that point time, I had to hang up ago hundred you're gonna show you right now you're away bitter human being than I am. Because I'm Cussing at this and I'm telling him and I love him. I love me some Manley. But I'm telling him that he's a fucking more on right now and you're trying, you're trying to trouble shoot. I need you to not do that love that. I love that. What I didn't even get to ask you. I wanted to ask him like out of all the signs right? The hundred pen signs, what's the best one. I didn't even get. There was shit like that 'cause we were sitting there with are digging our hands for twenty minutes is also a big is Daniel Bryan guy because he brought the yes movement to San Francisco, which is really fucking cool. 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I don't wanna call this breaking news. It's more of just a floating report, and I would also consider the source. This is Chris Moore, who works for CBS radio. WFAN heat tweets just a maybe a half an hour ago. The Yankees are targeting Lewis castio of the reds, I'm hearing twenty six under control through twenty twenty three Ballo blah, blah. I why would the reds do that, who the hold on the who's targeting them the Yankees? Why would the reds do that? I don't I don't think they would I'm not giving this any stock the. We have young talent that they could make it happen. But Lewis castio is the real deal. He's under team control for another four seasons after this trade him for prospects. You're trading him for guys that you can only hope will become as good as cassio is right now in will be for the next four years. That doesn't make any sense of the reds to do that. Are the Cincinnati Reds a team that you think looks at the next four years as a window of opportunity for them to get all of their options, all of their actions? This offseason suggested that yes, the other view that, and honestly, if you're gonna if you're going to trade Louis, which I'm not saying this reports true, so, whatever, but hypothetically, if they were going to trade, Luiz Custodio, that would have to precipitate like a half dozen other moves like that would be full, pivot of what's going. He's under control through twenty twenty three. Yeah, if he's not somebody that you're holding onto and valuing than what is the what is the point? What is the I there's no denying what he represents? I'm just wondering if the Cincinnati I get it with the moves. They made this year like you know what we feel like we'd be able to compete even with this roster right here. That's fine. Is that reality? No, I don't think it's necessarily reality. But I think it can still be a reality. If you like if you refocus on twenty twenty through twenty twenty two like to me, there's no real reason why the reds couldn't be competitive during that stretch. It always felt like a year early to me. Just the idea of like Louis is a guy like you have to would have to get a unbelievable hall that it would be difficult to imagine out there for Lewis castio. It just doesn't make any sense, doesn't make any sense. Sure, doesn't just want to acknowledge it as it is a blue checkmark person writing or working for a somewhat reputable media outlet. Didn't want to get caught with our pants down. Don't wanna help. You'll be like, why didn't you talk about that? So we gotta do a little check in on some teams here. The Atlanta Braves have been hot for a little bit. The Atlanta Braves. It's, it's we, we talked about them if not last week the week before about moving a kunia back to the leadoff spot. And how that was the exact same thing that launched them last year. It, it it's working again. It's working again this year. JD Josh Donaldson has been hitting the shit out of the ball. Akhoon is obviously doing what he does best. But this is a team that is taking advantage of now a division that I thought I don't know if I thought it would be the best division baseball, but definitely had a strong case, but we just once again have teams that are not living up to Jack speculations. I thought for sure. That, you know, you, you, you take Bryce hopper off the nationals, Soto takes another step forward. But you sign Corbin. There's not gonna be that big of a drop off. There has been the Mets the Mets the Mets the Marlins not even worth discussing. The Phillies have been the most interesting team for me in that division. Because I still expected the Braves too. I didn't think that the Braves were flu clash here. I thought that they were early, but I didn't think that they were a fluke. I thought that they would be able to repeat what they did, if not better in twenty nineteen versus twenty eighteen but the Phillies. What the fuck is going. I mean obviously the mccutchen injury is, is one thing share Bryce Harper, not being the Bryce Harper that, you know, the Phillies dot that they are paying for. That's another but outside of that those are two guys that were there last year when the Phillies were a very good team in the first half of the season, it almost feels like they're slide that they I mean, historical slide that they endured last year towards the end of the season is just happening earlier this year and the bullpen has not been greet. The bullpens, the bull in his featuring I believe, like a like a whip almost at one and a half that sixty six five six bullpen ERA over the last month and I believe, yeah. And opponents like their opponents batting average is. I wanna say it's like two seventy I was looking at it last night to sixty eight to seventy I believe that's third worst in baseball, the second highest home run rate out of that bullpen right now as well. Things have not been good things have not been good. Any? Put a middle of the pack towards bottom of the pack up as well. Real real Mutoko has been as been MIA recently. I mean, I think you can I think you can say that on the whole on the entire offseason overall this season Reese Hoskins is the only offensive player who has met ofensive expectations Cesar Hernandez. He's been okay. He's been okay. Maybe he's met expectations. Certainly nobody's exceeded them on Muto's doing a great job defensively. If you buy those numbers, I don't watch him enough to know whether he's being a great defensive catcher. But strictly on strictly offense, he's got a sub three twenty on base. Percentage power has not followed along with the power in the game right now. And this has been a tough stretch us I believe like looking at it last night. I would he have fucking for a Bs or whatever so he's like two for twenty four maybe something like that to last twenty four. So it's been a rough stretch. A rough stretch. Here's the other guy that we haven't touched on as far as the Phillies slide Aaron Nola. Yeah. Like he hasn't been like impossibly bad, but his ER as at, like, four four. He's like, is he are as almost double from what it was last year. Like, the, you would assume part of the Phillies thought process this off season was, hey, we have the pillars in place where adding a Harper mccutchen, a real Muto make sense because we have our ase. We have another cornerstone offense player in Reese Hoskins, we have some other mildly intriguing pieces on both sides. And a lot of those guys that they thought they had employees have kind of poof like Aaron Knowle's pitch, nothing. Like an ace the bullpen that they thought they would have Dallas touched on how bad they've been Sarangani Dominguez was probably their best reliever. Has been essentially worthless and or injured this season. I mean on a baseball field, not as a human David Robertson, was there, big free agent acquisition. We've almost forgotten about him because he got injured so early in the season is not contributed. The ace level relief pitching that they expect it so like. It's not necessarily a disaster long-term, but you can see why this isn't working when, you know you're ace crumbles and nobody steps up to be a number two potato was a big breakout candidate. Nobody stepped up to fill that void. So, and to go back to the Braves for a second. I mean that offense is just like that's a point television as far as I'm concerned between between Tunisia, and Ozzy Jaydee Freeman, interesting players, legitimately run a half dozen six to seven players, deep on that lineup every single day. And there are very few offenses, where you can really say that we're like I wanna watch that guys that I wanna watch that I that one thing. One thing about the Braves what are your thoughts on all as both you this? What are your thoughts? I don't know how much attention you pay. Sirocco after getting drilled. Yeah. On the orm on the and if you like if you go back and look at maybe his last four starts, or so they've been a little different. Than the starts previous. And, and there was no way. And I think we're on the same page here. There was no way he was ever going to continue posting like a two flat Yarra, right? Like that's that was never going to happen. It was like sub to up until I don't know like three or four weeks ago. Elko seven Phipps over three like he doesn't miss bats, like which isn't the only way to pitch. Well, I'm not saying that. But, like he doesn't have huge swing and miss stuff. He's got a low walk rate. He's really suppressed home runs this year. Like I think if you count on him to provide you with number three level production moving forward. I think you're, you're likely to be okay. You're not going to be disappointed. Yeah. Which goes back to the idea that again, I think we're all on the same page with even after the kaikal signing. I do feel like the Braves could use another starting pitcher who might that be go. So what do you think is the bigger need for them as well now that they've they've demoted Fulton? They still need a closer. I think I think they need both in ace level reliever or one of the three or four best that's on the market. And I think they need a starting pitcher. I think they need both and given the comments that they made about their ability to spend when necessary, you would think that there's room in the payroll for this. I'm not gonna call him in elite ace level reliever at this point, but two key served. Well out of the bullpen an Israel as not yet. And so as Luke tax they have a few guys who have been serviceable. But like there's no way that you can convince me that going in with Tuckey Tucson and Luke Jackson is your top two relief pitchers going to fly over the final three more and, and, and nuke nuke stolen the ball. When he's not trying to knock should down with his. He's throwing throwing the ball very well in that role as well. Where do you think the odds are that the Braves pull off a move where the choir both from the same team? I guess who would fit that Bill. And I mean, I guess the tens with Bumgarner and Will Smith. Right. That would be one out. One way that satisfied, both little little bullied kills me. Ooh. Will Smith and Madison Bumgarner. They might not have far to travel should they. Fuck off. There's you wish. Jerk. Do I ever just throw around? No. But. I don't ever just throw shit like that. Right. Not just throw shit like that. And now that I'm thinking of it the money's not crazy. So. Not at all. Not because I was thinking, like a Sherzai do little package, but that's just never going to happen for the Braves. But I feel like that could be a package for a team. I don't know where that would fit. But yeah, moneywise. Yes. Will Smith and in Madame travelling together that would make a lot of sense for, for a handsome package. Sheriff Bryan McCain, he and Bumgarner can just police the entire diamond. It'd be great. They're going to yell at the cubs for all the shit that they do. Everybody. Yeah. Don't let the Indians get hot Jay. Boy, not dead yet. Mhm very at. Well, I mean to me, this is all been about the offense the cleanser injury again. Hurts. Brutal. That's brutal. It's like you wait for him to get back remember. Yeah. You remember Dominy was in the brief taste that we had this season. And then he goes right back on the shelf. Obviously, corral news, which we talked about recently. I mean, they're missing a preposterous number of high level pitchers at this point between kluber harass go and cleven jer but the offense which looked like honestly hard to watch at different points this season is kind of clicking. Right now, the Carlos Santana Francisco indoor Oscar Makoto trio has been really productive. And the idea that like. Mocatta playing and he he he produced quickly, but not immediately. So it was encouraging to see them kind of like, let him work through some stuff because he's obviously their best outfielder. They just released or designated Leona smarten that trade did not work out. But to see like Mercado emerged from that outfield, which has been kind of a wasteland that we've talked about plenty has been really encouraging. You know, I think just mathematically, it's going to be really really difficult to get back into the AL central race because they're still seven and a half games back even after this done in the central but. They are in the wildcard spot right now. The second one they have a one game lead on the Red Sox Rangers that also will be hard to hold because I think we can all into Speight. The Red Sox continuing to come, but. It's not it's not it wa- season. And I do think it's going to make the idea of should we trade, Trevor Bauer or should we trade one of these other players? Much more difficult over the next couple of months, but it's been the offense that's carried and that's been really encouraging. Some, some breaking news here. We got the Yankees have designated Kendra Morales for assignment, could be the end of the road for him as. It is painful to watch him attempt to run to first base has not been the power bat that we've known him to be in the past maybe team that needs desperately needs. Some lefty pop takes a takes a flyer on them. But would not be surprised if this is the end of the road for him. Rest, former Oakland a great. We gotta give some love to Zach. Please ACA sure, he's Dan, please. X nephew. Correct. Yeah. Restore. Yup. Come up. And, and some of that void we've been talking about what the starting rotation for sure by and Bieber Bauer of held their water. You can't you can't just you know so as long as those guys continue to do that much, and maybe the offense can start to figure it out, j I don't see any reason why you're not competitive in that AOL wildcard spot. I mean not not to be a complete asshole, but your shot of winning that division for me is gone. That's not going to be a thing, but it's only seven games. That's honestly, like eighty five percent me just being an asshole to, you know, it's not. I mean it's not dodgers division lead level. No, I I don't know why those four other teams are even playing baseball. The dodgers have a twelve game lead on the second place, Colorado Rockies, which is. Second place to. On the second point. They're run differential is more than double the next closest in the NFL. It's, it's dot even fucking close. Like you look at the NFL and I'm just like man like what would be an exciting five game series that might give the team to that's gonna play the dodgers chance to beat the dodgers dodgers raves? They I don't think that would be particularly close right now. The, the dodgers have achieved the enviable combination of having the best offense in baseball and the best starting rotation statistically. It's pretty it's pretty hard to be. It's really hard. Speaking of the dodgers, how about how about the fuck in history, set by three rookies that was awesome or you kidding me. Walk off. Walk on walk. Fucking crazy. Is that at your point Jared, some of those baseballs? Probably could have stayed in the part a little jam shot. Not walk off jobber. I could not believe that I legitimate was just beside myself like you hit up all, and I'm like, oh, what a great. What pop basement? Right. Like that's easily I in my head and because I mean you just and I'm sure you guys are just like me. You, you watch so much baseball. You see a ball off the bat, and you can just almost close your eyes and envision how the rest of that play unfolds. So I'm envisioning the rightfielder the center fielder and the second baseman like converging out there in the shallow outfield to make a play. And that ball goes out to right center. Sweet we can talk shit about at all. But for them to have three guys in the lineup at that age on three days in a row be able to answer the belt that. Isn't it a barest of riches? I don't know. Yes. Is it is 'cause like I still good. And they have rookies coming out and doing damage for them like they are aren't away, the most productive team in major league baseball this season. And they've got rookies out there that they're bringing up and they're contributing in a way that's, that's helping the dodge. Let me let me ask you this. I'm just I'm just thinking about this right now. I'm thinking about three performances out of that starting rotation. Is it am I just am I really am? I way too high right now for the morning for me to think that they could have three guys potentially three guys kicking around in a Cy Young conversation. Yes, I think it is too early. Visit cursed I don't think her Shaw's going to get the body as we sit right now. Do a little Karabelas math. All right. Let's do some crops, if the season were to end today, or those three arms Walker review in Kershaw viable Syon conversation pieces right now. I think it's real. I think that's, that's the main guy, I think inability, but yeah, the whole if you want to do the whole if the season were to end today. I don't know. I feel like I. I'm not saying that they're one two three. Let me I guess. I'm not saying that the one two three not by any stretch. I'm saying this rotation that j just told us is the best in baseball along with the best offense in baseball that rotation could potentially feature three guys or is featuring three is that you could weave into the Cy Young conversation right now. Just just right now. I guess I guess that's a better way to say because there's not is there another staff in baseball. That's got three. You know what I mean? No, there's probably no other staff knock on real is out of this world right now. I think I think the raise would have a case if glass now didn't get hurt if he wasn't hurt. Yeah. I mean he's throwing thirty innings though case with I mean, Morton's been great fifty innings whatever it is for what it's worth fan graphs, top four in wins above replacement in the NFL right now is sure Zor review degrom. Bueller? Mueller. And he's in there. No. You didn't. It was very very average. Oh, by the way, I was just looking around on the leaderboards. The dodgers also have the best defense by defensive runs saved. And it's not even close. How about their bullpen j? It's more likely average. Have you taken a look at it? Yeah. I mean, I didn't bring it up because it was the only one that wasn't I Walker bueller theme. I was selling Walker. Bueller had a in eight to five ERA over his first three starts over his last twelve starts, or in the twelve starts since then a two one six ERA opponents hitting one eighty five to seven Opie, s and he has struck out ninety one batters in his last seventy nine and a third innings pretty good. That is, including that sixteen strikeout. No walk piece. Oh my God. I was I was so hard so hard watching the fact that he even couple of solo shots. But that's just speaks to the balls. I think more than anything else you go complete game. Three hits. Two of them. Go over the fence. Both solo homers, no walks. Any punches out sixteen Rockies the free swinging Rockies. The Rockies were the team that sale punched out eighteen against. They've had some real tough camps, but they actually fucking won that game, which is insane, but just another example of just because you playing field doesn't mean you have a good offense. I'm going to handle this next team. Because there has been some refusal to admit this shortcoming by my podcast partners on on this on this starting nine and I want you guys to admit that it is a problem. Now the brewers starting rotation, folks. The brewers not out of the division very much in the NL central very much in the wild card. They have a negative run differential right now. So if we're just being objective, this is not the follow up to last year is breakout campaign that I think most were hoping for maybe some anticipated most would not have said that the brewers would have a negative run differential. They're starting pitcher Yara over the entire season is five point zero two that's not acceptable. It ranks twenty second in baseball even worse their starting rotation. ERA over the last month is a head of only the Blue Jays and the Mariners who are baseball teams in name, only okay? So what would you say? Jared namely. What would you say to me once again, bringing up the idea that the brewers starting rotation is insufficient for a World Series contender. I like to help out here man, but I'm just gonna sit back and let you do know the brewers. I mean, I've been saying this since last year, and they never I guess they got GIO Gonzalez last year. But I've been saying since last year that you have a group in place, at least. Ofensive -ly. Where you should go out and do something like Masimba MD garner was a guy that they should have been talking about at the deadline last year. Like I don't understand how you could see what they did pitching wise in twenty eighteen see how close they got to a World Series and then not address that in the off season. I don't I don't get it because the offense clearly is good enough to be supplemented by well, I mean, obviously that they've had Jeffress was a Jeffress hasn't been Jefferson's the postseason started last year. So something happened with Jeff bullpen snowmen really good this year. No, the bullpens been good. But there's, there's definitely something off with Jeffress. But yeah, it's I don't understand how you can look at this team. And think, yeah, that's that's the rotation that I want to go to war with. I mean so there have been they've had six guys six starters, log at least thirty innings how good Wade Miley has been like at the beginning of the podcast. When I was like, yeah. How many guys could you put in the conversation for best value offseason acquisitions, with hunter Pence? Wade Miley is probably very much in that conversation with hundred Pence, and I mean, what did he signed for, like three million five million? Not much. I mean if got so they've had they've had six pitchers throw at least thirty innings for the rotation this year, I would say three of them are clear answers as part of some productive rotation. Geos Zach Davies and Brandon Woodrow. Woodrow spend by far their best pitcher this year. What he's strike twelve the other day he's got he's got a K per nine just under eleven his Phipps at three zero seven. He's basically been as productive according to war as the rest of the rotation combined. Zach Davies fuck executives. What's that? Another new thought you were forgetting Zach Davies, no Gonzales, Davies and Woodruff are part of a successful rotation. But the people that you have who have thrown the other innings have been absolute trash, like chase Anderson, Freddie Peralta, and you'll e show seen the ladder. The last of whom was a big part of their success last season. Those guys have been really bad, like scenes ER, as at five eight Peralta over seven chase Anderson doesn't look like the guy he was else. Than what's that, Nelson. Yeah. Jimmy Jimmy Nelson. I think the, the news after his most recent start was that he might be in jeopardy of his spot. And obviously he was a guy who looked like he might be a frontline starter before that shoulder injury. But I make sure they're running the basis. God, dammit. To me, this is just like I don't think anybody's burying the brewers but I was looking at the standings and I couldn't help, but notice that they had a negative run differential, which when you think of just out some of the Joe's first place. Jay, what's that? I couldn't help. But notice that they're a game back of first place. Well, you know what I think we all know what would be more indicative, future success? And it would be it would be that shady ass run differential that their sporting out there, even while they got berry fucking bonds on their team. Literally figure it out. This is not that there's a difference between. Let me see what, what's like a comparable team to the brewers this year. I guess the Phillies. Yeah. The angels, the angels, the Phillies. The brewers out of those teams that have very many like barely breaking even teams. Would you agree that the brewers have the best chance to actually do something here? I think they're the best team of the group. So it's not a quick fix. But it's an easy fix. If that makes sense. Yeah. And they have the benefit of not being in the division of the Astros to which is nice as to the angels. Yeah. I got to tell you about audible. Listening makes us smarter. More connected people. It makes us better partners. Parents and leaders. And there's no better place to start listening than audible. 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Pitching Hangover for the Nats?; Jordan Hicks Opts Out; Clevelands Rotation Health

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Pitching Hangover for the Nats?; Jordan Hicks Opts Out; Clevelands Rotation Health

"Baseball tonight. The podcast is is the baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday? July, Fourteenth Two thousand twenty, producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut is Taylor Schwenk I'm buster only working from my home studio in New York and Taylor. Yesterday you know after days and days and days of hearing a lot of uncertainty about whether or not, the season will start yesterday. I really felt like the winds had changed a little bit. Pull that I talked to We're talking about you. Know what I I think. We're going to get there. I D I think we actually you're going to get started up next week and they feel like that, you know. The players are getting into rhythm of it and I heard a lot of compliments about how the players in the staffers are. Following health and safety protocol that is super encouraging I feel like I've been a little more optimistic i. feel like when we had Ravi on last week and he was like we'll probably start. Who knows about finishing I've felt good, but you know you're obviously that's just me. My intuition my insights telling me it's go time. I'm glad to get some concrete info from you that it it's it's looking good. You Book Your Hotel yesterday we're. We're marching on nine days away from opening day. Unbelievable, yeah, eight days away till I drive down to Washington DC potentially to be reporting on the sidelines for the nationals hosting the New York Yankees in the opener Gary Cole- against Max Scherzer. Yesterday Shohei Ohtani had his second. Summer, camp, outing the first one had been very ugly at command issues. He was better yesterday and afterward Tani through a translator. Angels Manager Joe Madden talked about his most recent outing. Nothing coup softball obviously better than months last night performance. Come out. Really good overall. I was able to hit two straight days because my thought well. Today. I felt very good physically after hitting into strings, problems pitch. Saying physically wounded. Is better than last night in bed a little bit better. Obviously, there's another level for him, but I thought it was a step forward I don't know how he said he felt afterwards, but. I thought overall is better performance I still think once we get a real game going on with their without fans. another level of him skies all that good but I thought he was better than last. Overall yesterday was cody bellinger's twenty fifth birthday, and his manager talked about changes. That bellinger has made to his hitting mechanics since we had the shutdown in mid March. Coating over orange team. In Arizona working at. Dance? James that you look at put. IS ON CBS different? It was last year. For coding for us is just more. At. Taking up the new mcadoo's little bit time. Great evening while the. or infamous words he did not get. As finished season And the oath that. He was on James came up with. The change feels really comfortable, whereas at, can we? SEE The results share. Nozzles Snyder right now, but I think that it's a it's individual is field. Is Mama's. Yes confidence. In talking. Guys. As baseball ramped up. We heard that Charlie Blackmon the All Star outfielder. Rocky tested positive for coronavirus well, he's back on the field and he spoke with reporters yesterday I feel great, I have felt that way for at least a couple of weeks now I had. a day and a half of symptoms and then. After that I started feeling much better. And I. Yes, I mean I I. I WANNA. Be ready for opening day That's a pretty short period of time to get ready for a major. League, Baseball. So I'll I'll do my best, and that's that's kind of a goal. The athletic reports in Major League, baseball and the Players Association have reached an agreement as how to deal with contract, options and bonuses in this short in two thousand and twenty season. We've seen some real baseball injuries Byron. Bucks into the twins hurt his left foot tracking. Apply Ball and Monday and was carted off, but it looks like he could be okay. Manager Rocco Bowl Deli said the team is cautiously optimistic. He's quote. Fortunately. Relatively speaking, the initial once-over didn't show anything which I take as a cautiously optimistic, good sign Baltimore Orioles left hander tie block will undergo season any Tommy John Surgery shortstop Ricci Martin. Martin will have an operation on right risk. That will sideline two to three months. Robinson Chirinos the veteran catcher, playing with the Texas. Rangers had rolled ankle when a teammate slid into him at home plate on Monday. The initial images that were taken on x Ray came back negative. The manager Chris Woodward acknowledged that it's concerning to say the least when you ever catch. Your role is rolling his ankle, so we'll get more information about that probably later today the Detroit. Tigers cut ties with Zach Godly. Giving the right hander, his release Ron Gardenhire the Detroit manager said the move was made to give. Give Godly a chance to catch on with another team. hard-throwing Cardinals Reliever Jordan. Hicks has opted out of the season. We're going to be talking about that with Golda. The Saint Louis Post dispatch coming up a cubs manager David Rawson five other tier. One individuals did not attend the team's workout on Monday because they had not gotten. Test results back on. This was don out of a feeling of caution that they didn't want to. Potentially expose players to staffers who may have been positive for coronavirus and Robinson casinos situation continues to be murky. He's not working out with the mets. He's not with a team. Team and it's unclear whether he'll be available or potentially will opt out before we get to talk about that in many bell of MLB. Dot Com to discuss the Cleveland. Baseball franchise a heads up season. Eight of the ESPN's latest thirty for thirty podcast is here heavy metals inside the Karoly gymnastics empire, a groundbreaking seven part podcast series that takes listeners on a deep dive into the lives and influence a Bela and Marta Karolyi, the most successful and controversial coaches in USA. Gymnastics, history subscribe now to the thirty for thirty feet to listen to the entire season on apple, podcast or every. Get Your podcast numbers. Length, Zeh report under producer Brett Melby Dot, com and Sarah I was just mentioning about how Robinson Cano was not been on the field yet for the mets and there's a lot of questions about You know if he's going to participate when he's going to participate at the very least, it doesn't look like he'll. He'll be available to start of games. You know the mets well. Established on this podcast. You have been a crazy mets fan threat your lifetime. What do you think the mets best and be options are if he's a No-go? Yes I mean first of all you know. With everything going on in the world, I really hope everything is okay but aside from that and I think that when we found out about the National League, having a d. h., or when those rumors began I remember mentioning that if suspect weren't able to go, which now it looks like that he will be. The canot could potentially be a good option. Even there so I think that that's almost a way that I've started to re imagine that Infield. Infield and outfield for them without him playing position in there, even before all this but I think the most famous thing without really introducing any names from the minors or anyone that the mets are a little or the fans might be unfamiliar with would probably just be moving Jeff McNeil to second base from third putting. Jd Davis at third base and then having dom. Smith Clang field regularly. Assuming that you want us to suspect is going to be. And couldn't play the field and you know I mean from the Macneil side I don't think there's really any downside he was actually. He had the same number of above average at both second base and third base last year knee actually played more second than anything else in two thousand eighteen when he first came out so i. don't think that that would be much of an issue. Jd Davis is played third I mean that's what he initially when he first came up with the Astros, you played their last year. It was actually worse in left field that last year than he was at third base that may be partially a sample size issue, but I mean he was minus seven above average in left field, and plus one at third base, so you would have to hope that with more exposure at third base. Base that wouldn't go down too much. Dom Smith in the outfield is a different situation. We. We saw that he's not necessarily the best defensively out there. Obviously his best offensive position last year was at first base, but that's just not going to be much of an option with Pete Alonzo, raining rookie our when our everything else going on there so I, think that that's honestly not the worst solution, and that's probably what I would imagine they would do. I think that you know Davis playing third I'm pretty sure he's talked about wanting to defense there. So you know you definitely want to sort of you know. Latch onto that and hopes at. He really takes that into consideration. The mets of course playing in the national. League east. is absolutely stacked with the braves having the division the last two years the Washington nationals having won the world series. The phillies are in there i. just want to focus on the nationals per second. We've always heard that the greatest challenge for any team trying to repeat as champion. Is the the the. Hangover effect on pitching from year to year in other words, staff pitches deepened October and the next year. There are a little bit gas. This situations obviously going to be different. So do you feel like the sixty game season? In assuming that able to play, it helps in the nationals, chances of being the first team in about two decades to go back to back or you think it hurts it. I think it helps I mean as you. We're used to that sort of hangover effect. We're used to pitchers being so tired after pitching basically into November, and then having to come back and ramp back up in spring training and they did that then they got some time. Often. You know trusting that guys are back to where they want to be. Obviously I think Max Scherzer. Look good yesterday in i. think it was something like. Like four innings, and these guys are getting back to where they're supposed to be. You have to imagine that the chance for baseball related injuries like that in terms of just too much workload has gone down I think that it really helps them in that respect I think with their pitching. My biggest question is the same question I had entering the year last year, and it ended up working out for them, and it's the bullpen. Bullpen, but we know that bullpen was not great. The in the regular season it was a over five, and a half a your a the postseason was four point four four and remember postseason. They had US Corbin Sherzer and Strasbourg out of the bullpen, which was one hundred percent the right move, but when you're going to that in those kinds of situations that does show a little bit about how you're feeling about that bullpen, so. So I think that that's the biggest question but I. don't think that that's a related to the sixty game season. Though I do think they will probably rely on the bullpen. Even more I'm anticipating all of these teams to do that. So if that is a weak spot, it could be magnified, but I don't think that's the world series. Hangover type of effect is really going to apply here because the season starting July twenty third. I kind of wonder. My biggest question is about corner infield offense with Anthony Ren down off having signed with the angels and Free Agency in the wintertime. Ryan Zimmerman's out and they are going to have a lot of new faces at the corners this year, and and you wonder how they're going to make up for that lost offense. I get this question. I'm sure you see it a lot on social media about how we're going to regard. a champion for two thousand and twenty I don't really have that much of a difficult time with it I just kind of feel like we're going to look at it. If they're able to complete it in the same way that we look at the nineteen eighty-one dodgers and I was a fan of that team where you know in the end. Because they had a strike to took out about a third of the season, the numbers were all kind of jumbled. They didn't look the same. Some teams play one hundred and eight game. Some teams played one hundred twelve games. and I don't look at the dodgers is being a comparable title in eighty one to eighty eight because the season wasn't long. How about you? Yeah. I think I mean that's very similar. The comparison I was going to make you know from the staff perspective. There are a lot of stats where we say you know. Excluding strike shortened season seasons, and usually that's because of you know very burnt numbers whether they're extremely low compared to something else like the most home runs by a world series champion. Something like that and I think that this season is going to fall in there. I think that we're just going to have to when we. We talk about the fewest wins in a season to win the world series. We're not going to mention this season because it's different. You know we're going to say. He was wins in at least one hundred fifty four game season, or however, we're going to word that in the future so I do think in that way. It's going to end up excluded from a lot of lists, which is sort of how I view it, you know. Where is it going to fall when I look up? Up Stats in ten years, but ultimately I ending all certainly still say you know you did win. The World Series that certainly accomplishment, and with everything going on in the world may be in its own way. It's almost more of an accomplishment, though for intangible in different reasons, but I i. do think that it's going to be hard to compare that to even know the nationals from this past year. Any of those other chains yeah, I mean. The the nationals could be a classic example that you know no team has won a world series in in more than a back to back world series, and more than two decades I. as I mentioned. The one thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two two thousand Yankees won three in a row and if the nationals win the world series this year than than they will be regarded as the first team to avant back toback world series since that team, and if some people say yeah, but it wasn't the same my response be, you're right. Yeah, that's you can't argue that, right? It's an arguable. Yes, you know first team to win back to back world series in two full seasons, versus not you know something like that I think that that's definitely a point to be made in the conversation that we just had an in certain ways, and some people like us might think that it is a little easier to repeat this year just because of when the season is starting structure of the schedule and everything else and so if that's the case, then yeah for your first light real repeat. Or, we don't even have to use the word rail, but whatever it might be full season. We probably would have to wait a bit set up. And last one for wrote on Sunday, a little bit about this I. Think I'm going to write more about this upcoming. Sunday about how people in baseball right now are struggling with the concept of value. You know we always hear about value where you know. What's the value of of a player going into? NC? you know what's the value of a player who's upper trade like a Francisco? Francisco Indoor and you know it's it's through the use of analytics I. Think Teams Probably Have Gotten really good evaluating that and that whole you know, the the whole projection of that has completely changed and will change going forward, because the financial landscape and baseball, and as well as in the industry across the world is completely changing. You know we don't know where that's going to be. And I kinda the more that I thought about it. I feel like that. We really need an extended period of free agency. You know perhaps this December into January before we begin to restore that idea value, and where the parameters are and I thought I. It's actually to me very comparable to one thousand, nine, hundred, seventy six, when baseball free agency began you know there had been a couple of guys who had been free agents Andy. Measure Smith catfish hunter, but we didn't get the full range of full class of free agents. Agents until the fall of seventy six, and so when guys like Reggie, Jackson Bobby Grichin rollie fingers and hit the market. You didn't really know what was possible. And then all of a sudden reggie, Jackson sets bar five years three point five million Wayne Garland got a ten year contract. Is You know and then people began to get a sense of okay? What our players really worth and I kinda wonder if that's what we're GONNA. Need Sarah as baseball, as as I mentioned as well as rest of the country rebuilds into a new norm. I mean I. Think the first thing that I thought of when reading from you in hearing. That is just like what would Garrett. Cole be worth this off season, I think it's a very different contract as you said for a number of different reasons and I do think that this offseason can really define that, you know. We don't have a Garrett Cole on the market in terms of pitching, but we do have movie bats, and he may not get the type of deal that. We perceived that he turned down the red sox extension four, and all of that, but I think that that will set a sort of bar and I think of the twenty seven, the off season, the two thousand seventeen season, when Mark Melanson and then Kenley Jansen and then Aroldis Chapman. Each successively broke the record for the largest total value on a contract for a reliever, and how each of those broke, not just the. The one that had been signed two weeks ago, but also all the previous lines and I think it's almost like we need that to happen, but added position or at a lot of different physicians just to show us what to expect you know because so much of this is the conversation. The way that things are surrounded. We've talked about four hundred billion dollars per mike trout for so long and then he got. Got that extension entering last year, and you know, what number should we be talking about? How many years should we be talking about? And we sort of need that to be set in order for us to know what to be expecting? Yeah, a great example that JD re Real Mutoko. The phillies told reporters last week that he had started conversations with the phillies about a long term deal, and then the pandemic hit baseball. Baseball was shut down and now they're not really conversations, and you can sort of understand why, from both sides like on the phillies right now. Normally we would have looked at J. J. T. is being okay. This is what buster Posey got for Catcher last winter. This is where he has Monte. Grande doll where he fell and this might be where jt. falls in something in the north of one. One hundred million dollars, but now we don't really know. And if I'm I, wouldn't blame the phillies. If I were to say look, we want to see where the numbers go before. We you know. Give them a contract. You don't want to feel like we overpaid by twenty thirty percent, and if you jt you don't want, settle low until you're on an open market, and there's bidding and then teams at that point. Point are going to reveal themselves as to what's possible with. They're shifting budgets. Yeah, you just need everyone to sort of reset in. You need to know what those numbers are agree. When I saw that conversation happened and unstopped, based on what he said that made all the sense in the world to me. It's almost like you're negotiating different contracts. You know I think that the first idea of the contract extension in. In February whenever those conversations were taking place is just completely different from what would happen if they were to have that conversation today, or if they were to have it in the offseason with him on the open market in December, so I I'm interested to see and I mean as you referred to with him. mookie, Betts, there's definitely some intriguing names on the market. This offseason Marcus semi was an MVP candidate last. Last year he's another one George Springer I. think that there are enough. You know good players out there this offseason to help us do that and to show what it's going to be, but it's going to be really interesting. Last one before we go real quick Where do you think Mogi bets lands this off season because i? Turn this in free, SPN, DOT, com, and I think you're GonNa like the answer. Really. That's interesting that you said enough that what my goodness are you saying? Are you saying I have immune? There's two teams. We talk about with me so now. I'm just wondering about that, but I mean I could certainly see the mets trying to make apply if that's what you're saying I. think that he's certainly indicated that maybe something like a New York type of money. If the mets are willing to go, there could be really interesting but I really don't know yeah I think he's if if if in fact it Steve Cohen or some of the group buys the mets. And make right away, and announced their presence with authority and guess WHO's GonNa be the best player in the market, and we sort of learned about Moltke in the way that he's looking at negotiations unless he just likes the dodgers so much in l. a. in his early feel that he's like you know what I just WanNa, make a deal, but if that's not the case, if he feels like look because of the of the number one free agent, I have to take the most money possible to set the market for everybody else I could see him being with the mets next year, and that'd be very interesting. A bit. Can you imagine vets and judge in new? York I mean there are so much to be done there. That could be those interleague games. Lot of fun. Lot of that could be really interesting. Exactly all right. Sarah, thank. You thanks so much. Before we continue. We need to talk about our friends. Marathon oil now more than ever to look out for each other in count on each other marathon. 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We got news about Jordan Hicks that he's opting out of the season because he's a big name because he's the hardest ruined baseball, it got a lot of attention, but it felt like it was sort of inevitable Tell me about the thinking behind what happened. Yeah. You know what I agree with that Kinda description there he this is a long conversation one that really began back in spring training to be candidates. He was getting ready for the more intensive elements of his throwing program he had Tommy John Surgery last year after you know, a fourteen saves right there around the mid season, and he was expected to be back this year. All things being equal a little bit after the All star break, but you know he's got. He's type one diabetes. He actually diabetic. Phanom stitched onto. Onto his glove and he's been very candid about that. the cardinals even built in and he working with him an extra month in his rehab process, because weren't quite sure how his diabetes would impact his rehab his recovery, his healing process in have any setbacks. He didn't have anything along the way they just wanted to. At least create that possibility that if he needed a break or had trouble coming getting strength back, it will be possible for him to do so you know. He comes to camp. He was part of. Of the the sixty man roster that they put out there, but the conversation continued. He threw a bullpen at Busch Stadium on one of the first days of this quote Unquote Summer Cam, but the conversation continued, and eventually here a week, or so in you know he's continued his throwing program, but the cardinals and him decided that you know the pre existing condition the fact that you know he would be healthy for maybe the final say six weeks of the season seven weeks of the season that there wasn't a reason to put. Put undue risk on him and that he would opt out he because of the type one diabetes he obviously qualifies for full salary for the service time. and they felt that it was the right healthy decision for him. It does leave the bullpen another person down which really has been the story of summer camp for the cardinals. They're open just hasn't been fully together and there's really no indication that will be. John Brennan has gone because Tommy John Giovanni. Guy Goes had traveled difficulties getting from Mexico Unisys Cabrera has. announced he'd tested positive for in nineteen had a second positive test since then, so they're really looking for relievers. They're really test their depth there. Yeah I. Was GonNa ask You later interview about their their biggest challenge on the field as they come back, and it certainly sounds like that in your eyes. That might be it. I you know what I think. They have the death to overcome it to be honest, and like young guys like cody. Whitley and you know the eight or ready to step in the biggest challenge for this cardinals team is the one that they still had leaving last season. It's how they. How are they going to score runs? From this team they let their cleanup hitter walk and they feel like they can get that same production from deal there from cleanup, even more production from clean up. At Eight, hundred eight fifty ps from either one person from a committee of people, but that's no guarantee, and if that's no guarantee than an improvement on last year's offense, also isn't a guarantee and this team that was the lowest scoring team of any playoff. Teams you know last year it put such an emphasis on their pitching relies so heavily on their bullpen to hold games, and they have the talent out there. The question really is the runs to at least give them a breather every so often. So during the shutdown You went through the Labor talks. I get asked the question a lot. I'm sure you did, too. As it was a stalemate that was developing okay. Who the leaders on each side that are needed people who could emerge and I thought out. There was no baseball, going on one of the interesting things that happened was the emergence of object clarity as leader. Leader in baseball, and that really you know initially was about the Labor talks when he was tweeting out about that a lot of social media response to the Labor talks, and then after the killing of George Floyd in a he continued to emerge even further, and I feel like in five years. Guys like Walker Bueller will be really important Jack Flaherty. SORTA cemented with what he's done. The last three months that in the years to come, he's going to be one of the big leaders in baseball. You've known him since he broke into the big leagues. Tell me about what you saw the emergence of a young man. Oh, yeah, known him since the day was drafted, and they put him on a phone call with us to be honest, and we watched his kind of ascent from high and got to know him and. more about his family and his mom there He I thought. You know you know the the the phrases like a guy finds his voice right? Thinking knew what his voice was had a chance to talk with him, and he's been very forward. candid also very pointed in his comments about being renewed each of the past two years. you know he made stance, he said look. I'm rejecting what the cardinals! Are saying my salary is, and I'll take the ten thousand dollar penalty that the cardinals policy on principle. I don't want to be told that this is what I'm worth because I'm not and I don't want to go into arbitration. Have somebody say that I accept that salary? 'cause I'm not I did not accept. That's out and he has always been really forthright with that. What we've seen now is just basically an amplification of that voice, you know. He used social media to drop start half big. Gifts there you know the the little videos on twitter that he would put out there just as like a little riff, a little satire on the ongoing negotiations between the players and the owners, and his his eye rolls some liberal. metaphorical about you know the responses from the owners, and then you're right you know because of social unrest and the the racial injustice. He pivoted You know the the twitter feed the for him used to be a lot of shouting out. How much of a fan of Kobe Bryant he was or sharing Kobe Bryant lights or talking about Kobe Bryant's death. Gained this like Kinda swelled to a larger volume as he started talking about the Labor Relations and labor discussions in baseball, and then of course into the social factors, and how to draw more attention to some of the injustices going on I think. We saw a young man get traction in in what he always wanted to be. He started to be. And you're right I. Mean I think in a lot of ways? He has the potential to be the face of baseball. He's talked very openly buster about wanting to be more active when it comes to youth baseball particularly when it comes seeing African American boys involved in baseball, he wants to be more present. Their more of someone who can rally the game at a younger level and inspire. The game at a younger level I think we're also going to see him used as a when it comes to the new CBA for how younger players should be paid more when they're producing better, and his career will be trotted out as an example of W-, how that works or how that could work, and why it's important for the young players, but it does work. What's the bedrock in his background that that you know I is is behind nece in terms of how you know He was raised his awareness and obviously I mean I've talked to him in. Just a fraction of what you've talked to him. Man as he is smart kid. Yeah you know. I mean I. Think you know a year ago on Mother's Day? I did a story I think the headline was five tool. Single MOMS or the five two MOMS, and it had its genesis in spring training, where I was talking with a lot of the players, and you know I've known Adam wainwright and covered Adam wainwright for the entirety of his major league career. Career and long I did a story about his mom and older brother, his single mom, and older brother, helping him, and raising him and working with him, and it dawned on me that you know there were envelope cardinal pitchers. All of whom who had gotten pretty close. We'd talk quite a bit who who had single mothers and you know Jack is one of them. He's the adopted. Adopted son of a single mother he has a brother as well and you know recently on a podcast that he the he was the guest on with former Cardinal Matt Holliday. He was telling the story and I thought it was really revealing and it's one that he's kind of touched on before, and and did so in this in the story I did for Mother's Day where. Where he's like people come up to him and and ask him things like you know reporters do like hey. Where do you get your competitiveness? Where do you get your drive? Where do you get your lettuce? And where do you get your work ethic and he was saying that you know a Lotta Times. He lapses into the answers that are kind of you know the usual right like. The phonograph spins and they they say the same thing, and he said you know I I often say like well, somebody goes. Where do you get work ethic? He was I. don't know any different he goes. The realization is I. Don't know any different. Because I saw my mom or I saw that she was working before I got up I saw that I couldn't get up quicker and get to work. She did I saw what she did with two. Two boys raising on her own he was. That's where I got my work ethic I. Don't know any different because that's the example she set for for me and I you know I think interest in talking to him, and knowing him talking with her, and getting to know her and it you see such a strong presence from the mom and such a eagerness from the sun to live up to that presence that it's just it's hard to mess. That's awesome. All Right Derek. Thanks for thanks for doing this and good to talk with you again. Yeah good to talk with you, too. It's great to hear you and you know it'll be good. We can talk a little baseball, and hopefully everybody is healthy enough and aware enough in conscientious. Enough that this baseball season gets off the ground. Manny. Bell covers the Cleveland Baseball Franchise for MLB DOT COM and he's you know we're all sort of struggling with. How should refer to the baseball franchise from Cleveland because they have indicated that the name Indians is under review. Where do we stand with that right now? The team really given us too much of an update aside from what they said about two weeks ago. That's meant to determine the best path forward I. Think Right now. They're going to the process of having every conversation that they can have and I and I know that something that was important to them. Make sure they're talking with the right people to understand what their name to everybody, and if it is offensive to groups out there then they want to make sure that they're. They're figuring out what they can do to make sure that it is not offensive to anyone, and I think from. From talking to Tito and all the players so far, everyone sort of had the same mindset whenever they're. They're discussing all this and they're saying we just want to do with Beth, and if there's time in the world to listen right now is the time to do that, and so that's all they want to do. At this point timing. Wise I. I don't know how long it'll take, but it looks like it'll get there eventually. Do you think that the decision made by the football franchise? Formerly known as the Redskins, puts pressure on on Cleveland to make a change and or at least. Formally indicate that they're going to change. Yeah I'm sure I'm sure it does at least a little bit I'd. I don't know just because the season is starting so soon. I don't know how quickly they could get this turned around I mean with the branding, and just having to to fix and change everything that you have and just focuses obviously majority on the season right now, so I think the timing for a little bit weird for them, but it definitely will expedite the process. I think just having the the The Washington franchise. Moving so quickly which among the many names potential names of the unions that have been mentioned interests you the most? I think the Cleveland spiders is one that that has an interest. Most people I know Anthony, catch Castro with us. He did a great piece on on the Cleveland spiders, possibly being their name, and I know there's a lot of people who are really hoping for that. Historically now. The spiders weren't necessarily a part of their franchise because it was before one thousand nine hundred before they were in the American. American league, but they were the Cleveland Baseball P here. from like eighteen, eighty, nine to eighteen, ninety nine. There's there's so much history there that teams record. Wasn't that great so there's some confusion there with some people about why they would that take on a team. That wasn't that great, but I think that was out. There I've heard the Cleveland Guardians. I've heard people asking for the Cleveland Rocks or Cleveland. Cleveland Rockers I think the hall of fame theme. Maybe a little overdone, but I mean that's out there, too, so there's there's definitely some options, but I am intrigued graphically spiders right last week. The Indians had a situation that popped up that I think got everybody's attention around baseball. Because of all the teams you know in baseball, the the Indians are certainly among the the clubs that are considered to have some. Some of the best leadership Chris Antonetti at the head of baseball OPS He's one of the best in the game. If not the best, you have Terry Francona 's manager, Future Hall of Famer Francisco Indoor leader in the clubhouse respected, and then of course Carlos Carrasco last year, going through treatment for leukemia. He's the embodiment of what potentially could be high risk, and yet the Indians had a situation. That scared everybody a little bit. Can you sort of walk through that and what your perspective was? From talking with people within talking to people within the organization. Yeah, absolutely from Rasa went to a fourth of July event without a mass there was a bigger group of people they were not social distancing. He posted some videos I think as instagram page and people within the organization saw that reached out to him immediately and informed him not to show up to crack this They wanted to make sure that they were going to take the necessary precautions that if somehow he would have been exposed to the virus there, he was not going to bring it in to the facility with him They asked him to get tested immediately, and he was not able to come back until those tests came back negative to be absolutely. Absolutely sure it was a it was a learning experience, and and when we talked to Terry Francona about it, he just kept saying over and over again he is not in the doghouse. Make sure this is clear. We understand that this is a unique situation and everyone's trying to figure out an adjust to the guidelines that we have. It was a it was a mistake. And this is what we're using the learning experience. and Peter said that he went around and started talking the guys about it and now they can't have bigger group discussions right now, so he's been having smaller discussions with people on the sides and he's. He's been saying look. Look! This is going to be what we have to do this year. This is what the season's GonNa be like and we need everybody to be one hundred percent committed to this. If we're GONNA, try to make sure. The season gets played in its entirety, and we want to be the team that China's Day as responsible as possible and that when we talked to some of his teammates, they also the same thing and we're like this is. This is something that we all can learn from that. We that we saw this, and there's not gonNA be any slip-ups this year without some sort of a a penalty for it because we just WANNA. Make sure that. That everyone staying safe, it's bigger than the game, even and where there's help comes first and so That's how they've looked at it. And whenever Fran milking back, he couldn't have been more apologetic and and he just said that that he grew from it as well, and he wants to make sure that everyone around him so what he had to go through and and make sure they were learning him Mandy it felt that I i. mean it as it played out, it felt like from a four like you know what this is. Almost a good thing that this happened like it was almost lucky that this happened early in the process in this way. Absolutely I mean at the having this be like three or four days in the camp that I think that was just get that out of the way. Have everyone see that they are super serious about this as they should be and I think everyone can can understand going forward now with in the regular season that I think that just the importance of staying safe will only continue as this goes on. Right on the field of from your perspective, what are the most important factors in determining how good this team can be? Well one that will be the health of the rotation. Rotation stays healthy I think that they they have a good chance. I mean Tito says are going into every season. As long as you have pitching, you're in every single year. No matter what else you have and they have seen Bieber might club jerk Carlos Carafe does their top three errands Savelli, Zach pleased second Adam though right now. We're sort of fighting it out for those last. Last two spots volley seems like he's the a leading array. P might be funding in at number four, and that leaves, please Acapulco as as fighting it out for five, but no matter what the depth they have rotation-wise. They think it will always keep them in it. especially when you have a one two punch Lebron, clovinger, and then I think there's going from there it'll. It'll be a lot of it is gonNA fall on friend, mores I think I mean he's just going to be a difference maker in that lineup and whenever you compare from last year where they were at the start of the season two this year that that batting order just so much more depth and and I think the power that he can bring in the middle of. Of the order is something that that could one hundred percent like I said the difference maker he was on fire during spring training after the last three and a half months. He said he never even saw live picture during the break for quarantining so whenever he came back to progressive field that was his first time seeing live pitcher again and so his me was a really off. I started, but it now seems like he's starting to settle in a little bit more took a double off the top of the left field wall last night, so things are starting to click for him and I think that's going to be a big factor for the Indians. All Right Mandy good to talk with the again. Yeah, thanks so much about the. Bleacher tweets. Ra Buster bleacher tweets for Twos de coming in with the starting block at the starting block. He writes in with how everything has turned out is Mike Trout's decision to extend with the angels with a year to go instead of going to free agency now the smartest contract decision in Major. League baseball history in retrospect. What do you think? I think it's more nuanced than that. I think there's some good fortune. I mean who would've imagined. There'd be a world pandemic in place that would shift the market in the way that we're going to see and also on top of that, I think Mike he someone who doesn't necessarily like change. We know that because he goes home to Millville every off season. He's built his home in Millville. His kids are going to school in Melville so that sort of him, but you know what Taylor a this is a reminder. A burden hand is worth two in the bush. Like and we've seen players turn down, may huge contract offers, and their feeling is you know what I could get a little bit more Fi- wait, but I think in this case, he got offered a ton of money. It would have been I probably. Mistake turned down and and it's paying off now. Yeah, what he? I mean. He could about on himself. I sure. Sure he would have made more, but it might have been marginal. I guess when we're talking about that. Some of cash next up PK Steinberg writes in for much PK guy from March to July. The players quote unquote had off. This is the same amount of time roughly as the off season. Do you think Major League? Baseball would consider shortening spring training if the. The players are in good shape or form PK. The answer is no for a couple. Reasons one. You know that sort of the rhythm of the sport and I think people like you know having that time now we're players. trained physically. They began throwing sometime pitchers due in December now. Typically by the time they get to spring training there. They're ramped up. Up and ready to go, but the number one factor at spring training and I've had many executives acknowledges to me off the record through the years they play those last three weeks of spring training, essentially four the affiliates for this the on the sites there were. They know they're going to be drawn. Good spring training crowds, and they're paying bills playing those games. That makes sense last one debbie. James Brown rates in so boop Shami describes it as obscene, but if it were entirely up to you, buster, would baseball be played before dawn? What is your ideal? What would be your ideal timing for a baseball game is that? Is that eight am? Are Not you know the more that I thought about this? I'm thinking that it would be. How cool would it be if we had games played from four thirty, a M and they finish up around seven, thirty, eight o'clock and Taylor as you and I are getting ready for the podcast. We got all these results to react to a lot of new information to respond to. Any cool it'd be amazing I love morning games of any kind I mean when the Olympics are on, and it's on the other side of the world. You got some early morning. Action the MLS. We got a game on right now DC, united played yesterday I love the early morning. Games I'd like more of them. Unfortunately NOCCO. Yeah, when I've traveled I have taken vacations in the NFL Games are on at like seven am. That is awesome. Also the West coasters, only for that reason exactly all right that does it for pleasure tweets bleacher tweets on twitter. Thanks, everyone. My thanks demanded to Saturday. Derek and Taylor a great day. Everybody thanks for listening. Stay safe and remember every day we must fight against hate in inequality based on skin color. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball, don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast. 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"Hit a home run and get pre-approved for your next refinance or home purchase at the home loan expert dot com, enjoy the podcast. Mclaughlin here to tell you about the hometown automotive family I trust the most loop US automotive network and you know they are saying Louis loop. US has been a part of Saint Louis for over seven decades. They're proud to support Saint Louis. In the surrounding areas with cars, youth sports and charitable efforts, fourteen brands, ten locations just visit views dot com to start shopping today. A Wednesday that means it's a chance to visit with Brian Walden of the Cardinal Nation Dot com, and we get so much response when we visit with Brian, because it so much information if you love the game baseball whether it be on the amador side, the minor leagues are certainly Major League. Baseball and fans got their first look whether it be you want it on TV or on the radio or streaming like we had last night on cardinals dot, com and Brian I know. You took into the game It was nice to see actual baseball back on your TV or streaming. Wasn't it last night? Dan I think today should be your day I mean. The the you represent thousands and thousands and thousands of cardinals, fans, and hearing your voice, and seem those players on the field with such a big deal. I almost feel guilty talking today because this should be your show, it was a great opportunity for folks to see you know the cardinals players field last night, and and you help bring it to us. I appreciate that and it was A. A special day it was great to be back in the booth and I was texting with Mike show the other night Brian and I said Man I missed the game I miss everything about the game, and I miss the people to and I. I got a chance to see the people I know. You feel that way, too as you travel around the minor leagues in covering Stops along Minor League Baseball you forget how much you miss the people throughout the summer. Don't you see in those faces you know might be just once a year, but man you just miss and the people. That's the truth and you know. Screen camp ended so early minorly camp never even really got going, and you know now there's uncertainty about how they. They summer camps south in. Springfield is going to be able to be handled just because of the resources, but as Motoki last night they want to handle that camp AAA like and so they'll be a thirst for news and for information. That's going on with those games down there as well when they start probably in a week or so, what did you tell? Yeah what? What did you take away from the game last night? As you were watching clearly no fans in the stands. We all know that, but you got a glimpse at Busch Stadium. You saw some of the different sign age You know it was Bush stadium. The lights were on. The the guys are on the field. It was squad. What what did you take away from the game? Ask. Questions about the crowd noise and some of that stuff is interesting. It's probably more important to the to the people who are really focused on that, but I mean if I felt like I was like most fans I was just want to the players and the Games and the fact that there there's only from your cameras. Maybe they still had enough born on that. You could see the the place on the basis, or you could see the throws, and it felt really really good to watch in terms of sound about the play i. mean you see six shutout innings pitching and you realize hey, the pictures are in. A pretty darn good place right now, but you know postgame Mike. Schultz SORTA bristled when suggested that the hitters aren't in a good place as well. You brought up the fact that there were a lot of good at bats against you know arguably one of the very best pitchers in the game inject clarity, and so you know he's not concerned. He might show does not yet concerned about the offense. There's a lot of different guys in there and you know the regular lineups. There's a couple of guys who who haven't been played yet. So yeah. I thought the at bats against. Against Flaherty, while I give Jack a lot of credit I thought he was sharp. and I'll get into Gombar here. In a moment I thought the at bats against flaherty were really good. He was getting ahead, but the cardinal hitters grinded against him, and that's where you gotta tip your Cap. If you're the cardinals on that side, the offensive side against Jack Flaherty grinded against him and Yeah, the the pitching was good on both sides, but to grind against Jack Flaherty, one of the best in the game that's to Kinda borrow a cliche. That's where you tip your cap. Absolutely and you know and we saw some of the younger guys. Do Well New York out a couple of hits. made a nice play in the gap and the outfield Rebelo. Even Thomas who was offered to you know went deep into the Coutts Multiple Times, and that's the thing that the office needs to do against post pictures make him throw a lot of pitches and get into the bullpens I. I am fascinated with Austin Gombar and more so this season than ever because you don't know if a player's going to test positive, so you've gotta be pitching wise. You gotTa have depth in your rotation. Specifically got have guy stretched out and Gombrich fits that role perfectly because he could do either all he could be a starter, he could be a reliever. I thought he was efficient. Strike One and quick I mean. It took him I. I think Brian either ten or eleven batters that he saw to go to a three ball count I mean that's about as good as you can be. At the major league level. That's right I mean. He went through the lineup. The first time you know one thirty nine in order, not the second time. Did he actually even have a base runner, and I? The thing we've convert that's clear is always the fastball. He always had the the twelfth six wipeout curve, but he didn't have a dependable third pitch, and that's something you really need to differentiate yourself as a starter, and so he talked about the fact in two thousand eighteen when he was writing. Writing the Memphis shuttle is he taught him a cutter and he started to experiment with Ad, and he said it Kinda migrated to more to a slider last year, and over the winter he used the analytics and technology to help him a Austin convert decide. Hey, should I focus on the slider or the country? And he's decided the slider and he said last night was the you know the rare night where he had both his auspey pitches working curve insider rider. He felt like he could throw them anytime. He wanted, and that allowed him different pick sequences because let's face it. All these guys know one another really well. They know their tendencies, but as conversation. Conversation kind of with a smile. They hadn't seen this before. And you know that's true differentiator for him. If he can continue to throw that site or strikes on top of his other offerings, Brian Walden the cardinal nation dot com, my guest Let's get into some of the news. Jordan Henderson opted out no surprise here I've said it from day one I don't begrudge any player for personal reasons doing this and you certainly don't begrudge a young man. That's diabetic. He'll get his prorated salary. He gets a year of service time and also we found out last night. He was dealing with a little tenderness coming back from Tommy. John Too. That's right the fact that Jordan Hicks. Camp, you know. He gave it a try. He was comfortable with the system. There wasn't any indication he was. In fact. My showed even commented that that hit said that he felt safe and felt comfortable in that environment of in this. Pseudo bubble that they have but. In a void voided, talking about Jordan Hicks, is scheduled publicly before but last night he said that their schedule had been for Hicks to return on the eighteenth of August, that would be when he would be able to rejoin game action, but he had some inflammation after the last time he threw, and so they put him on a no throw program. For a while until the inflammation could subside well that push that August eighteenth date out into September and so basically the children, the coaches can the conclusion that. Jordan hates his ability to really contribute this season. Really really diminished to the point where the best thing for him is probably just took a home and and focus on his rehab and hit him art in twenty twenty one, I. I don't know if you know the answer to this question, but technically speaking and you mentioned he's going to go home, but if he. He wanted to stick around in Saint Louis. Could he come to the facility and workout? Let's say the teams on the road. Could he come to the facility and get treatment and throw a bullpen? If you wanted to do that, or is that something? If you opt out your away from the team, your way from the facility, according to the operations manual and by the. The way I said go home. That isn't what what might show that actually segues that he was going to go to a more private setting, so that may or may not be home. It could be Jupiter, but the operations manual for Major League Baseball makes it clear that those players who are you know restricted from playing being involved with the team because of covid are. Are Not allowed to you know be in the facility, so Jordan, Hicks won't be in Saint Louis. Gotcha, we're still trying to figure out how this roster is going to take shape now. We know it's going to be thirty players. In the onset Probably Sixteen of those thirty players will be pitchers. They're still question marks with. Let's say Hennessy Cabrera Giovanni Guy. Alex Ramos. Where do you think we're at right now? In trying to set a rotation, a bullpen with Carlos Martinez maybe Where do you think we're at right now with trying to set this roster and in particular the pitching? A lot of questions as Dan, not too many answers yet the first point on the number of players. showed again said last night it could be sixteen. It could be seventeen pitchers out of the gate, but by giving him as many as twelve player pitchers in the bullpen. You know that obviously gives him of flexibility so that's a positive on one aspect, but as you said, there are a total of five players out including the three pitchers that you mentioned that you know we're expected to play a part on the major league staff and they're they're still. Still Out, there is no timeframe on went gyco and racing. Cabrera will be back. So one has to assume the guilt given that we're getting down near the end of the camp and they're not in their throwing it all that goes. Guys can't be counted on to start the season, so that creates an opportunity for sort of the next year. Guys you know the Junior Fernandez's. Maybe the cody went lease to to get a chance potentially to start the season on a major league roster, but again as Mo- explained you very clearly last night they start with. The first two weeks then they dropped to twenty eight, and then they dropped to twenty six, so we know again most very clear that one of those extra players will probably be. A catcher certainly looks like Andrew Kisner has. Played exceptionally well, and it's getting good marks, so he'll be one of those, but they'll also. He'll carry a few extra pictures to help. Them through the early weeks of camp. regarding. Carlos Martinez. I only go by what I hear from the manager. Mike show has been very very clear. Multiple occasions that Carlos Martinez spent the time and the effort in the off season, and in the break doing everything that they asked him to do to be ready, and that he Mike Schultz view cost Martinez deserves the opportunity to start. You know. We saw in his where we heard about him in his last outing Very very dominated very well and so I believe that even though there's all this concern about the bullpen rightfully so. Carlos Martinez hasn't done anything to lose his opportunity to start. which is something that he's very? You know said that he very much wants to do. Cody Whitley Johan Oviedo also impressive. Do you think the club feels comfortable? Starting their clocks, even a sixty game season. That's a great question. It's GONNA come down to the back of the bullpen, and how comfortable they are about the actions I mean the good thing that we've seen is that some of the guys who are back You know like a like a whip for example have looked very very good, and so you know it's not as simple plan is completely decimated, and the question on their part will be. You Know Will Oviedo and Willie. AAA, experience already and pitching on a folly go via does not Oviedo. Never pitched AA so they could be different decisions on those cases, but you think. At some point in the season, we're going to see the guys even if they're not there day one now, neither one of those guys are on the forty man roster, but even though Jordan Hicks was in the sixty man pool for this team for the season. He'll be able to be moved off and they'll be able to move another player into the sixty man pool, and they have to potentially up to forty man roster spots, which they could use on Oviedo in Whitley, but also they're going to keep spot on show for killing Carlson. If who if that doesn't make the team right away, we'll certainly be up a relatively soon. We shy a three man umpiring crew last night. Major League Umpires, and that starting to now trickle into these major league camps. Eleven umpires have opted out which is a sidebar to this which gets overlooked as we get closer and a lot of these empires are older gentlemen Do you think we're GONNA? See more and more of that happen as we get closer to opening day. Well that's a that's a good question. I mean about one out of every eight, because there's roughly ninety major league I'm ever take so roughly about one out of every eight empire opted out, either for their own personal reasons for a close family member, but of course the good news is that because there are no, there's no minor league season. There are plenty of competent triple, hey. You know. Trade Umpire sewer available, so there will certainly be enough unpire schoolwork the season there may be some different experience levels of some of the guys, but again I I don't think the umpiring is gonNA suffer now. I guess they're not gonNA. Have you know instant replay this. You're right, so that's one area that that will be a little different as well. It's a great point. His any team and I know you study all the different teams. Any teams really stood out in terms of not having a lot of positive tests I don't WanNa. Say Luck of the draw, but I mean just just all of a sudden. You look up and they've had. Success with. You know the fluidity of the testing and they're just not having a Lotta. Guys pop with positive tests. You Know Twenty Mission Dan because I just yesterday James Click who is the new manager of the new general manager of the Houston. Astros was quoted publicly saying. I believe the team that is going to win. This year will be the team with the fewest number of positive cases exactly and you know I mean. It's it's sort of a talent equalizer. If you think about it so I mean the the Washer closer the Rosser best pretty. Freeman, so you know there's GonNa. Be a definitely an impact this year, but in terms of your question I think the Chicago cubs are the only team, if I remember correctly, that did not have a causative case yet, but still they were impacted because the other day they didn't get their test results back from the weekend, so a handful of players plus the manager David Ross had to sit out couldn't participate in. In practice because you know the testing, mechanism is still not running as completely smoothly, and that leads me to this. We're in a camp right now, so essentially inter squad games and practices. Is there a plan for Major League Baseball? If this happens once, the regular season starts so say player X is GonNa. Make a start that night or is your starting third Baseman, but yet his test hasn't come in time. What happens in that particular city to try to get it done? If the test results can't come back. Is there a hospital or Major League Baseball designated a place where that player can go. Get tested quickly, so we can play that night. Yeah one thing that's not going to happen is that teams are knocking at least the cardinals and I'm sure others will be saying. Teams are not GonNa Shortcut or short circuit the protocol, right? They're not GONNA TRY to slip guys in because they understand what's at stake now. When the cardinals hit the problem with testing back about ten days ago, their solution was to contact Mercy Hospital and get a bunch of quick test through there, so you know. They had an escape valve that they needed. Needed the other thing that I've heard I haven't substantiated this, but I saw mentioned yesterday that Major League Baseball maybe considering opening a second testing facility because the one has just been so overrun with all these tests and it's it's going to continue as the season goes on, and finally as more discussed on the telecast last night. You got the second camp satellite camp. If you will down in Springfield Hozeal, candle essentially will run that over seen by Gary, the Rocco's player. what are you anticipating out of that camp and how that thing will be run? As told everyone last night they're going to run it like a triple a team. And that was he came into that sort of in the context of roster management in that players will move back, and forth between the Springfield, and the Saint Louis Club as needed You know it won't be the I fifty five shuttle I will be the forty four shuttle, but. But but anyway the the the point being that they'll be playing actual games just like they're doing in Saint Louis maybe not every day, maybe not nine innings, but they're going to have enough from our master players down there. They're able to have to fourteen and play games like like. We were able to see last night with you. The call the question is. Is, you, know what will be the amount of resources at the cardinals can invest, and will they be able to have media access will be able to have a even if it's a single camera access because you know, let's face. A lot of folks are GonNa WanNa know about what's happening with those players down Springfield and but you know it's not clear yet. Yet, how that's going to work? What are you working on Brian Right? Now? At the Cardinal Nation Dot, com and I should tell fans. There is content at your website every single day. Well, the thing I wanted to call attention to today is something that I've been doing since the beginning of Camp as most folks, no, after the workouts after the Intra squad games each night. Cardinals, PR have players and managers sometimes Mo- as well come and. Entertain questions media, and so what I've been doing tonight is just taking quick notes of those in summarized for folks who don't want to listen and watch you know large long clips to incoming read just the net points that the players or two managers making them also providing some of the line scores in the box scores, so folks can see those players who stand out, and that's a free function on the Cardinal. Nation Forum always great to visit with you on these Wednesdays. Thanks. Thanks Brian Talking next week. 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The Kist & Solak Show #78: Eagles 7 Round Mock

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The Kist & Solak Show #78: Eagles 7 Round Mock

"Michael kissed Benjamin, so lack it's the kissed Solex show presented by SP nation and leaving green nation. You are flying high on the kissed and so lack show this Assode seventy eight brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kissed. You can follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL as always joined by the best dog co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin. So lack follow him on Twitter at Benjamin select that's L A K. Ben, how're you doing brother? Mike everyday is good day to be alive here guests. So actually, you gotta love it. I have man I love a good life and happy Quesnel of Johnson podcast. You Caleb Johnson. Tree. You know is the practice squad guard from Rutgers sucking I thought practice quarter. I really don't even know who that is. I have no clue it's like it's like it's like week sixteen. Everybody signed the bunch of people to futures contracts. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's on reserve user contract with eagles right now. I or a second-year player at Rutgers six four three hundred pounds twenty five. Years old future starter book it Martin Love it love it. So Caleb Johnson. I guess that. That's the episode that we're going with saving. These numbers less than Caleb came through the guac. So Ben today we're going to be talking about some NFL draft for the eagles. We're gonna do seven around mach. But before we get to that some obvious house going to do as news continues to drop throughout the day of what's going on with this eagles team as we move into the off-season today. Adam Schefter tweeted out that the falcon signed former Cowboys linebacker Bruce Carter to a one year extension. That's not the news. The news is golden Tate. Replies. To this and says quote, oh, so you don't have to wait until March to sign extensions. Interesting. Good to know, and then a piece on emoji, unquote. So it doesn't look like the eagles have made a hard push to resign. Golden Tate at the moment, which comes at a shock to really no one. Maybe there's an outside shot that they're waiting to move Nelson Agla and is over nine million dollar option in a trade before they push the chips that on tape. But that's like even just an outside shot type thing either way things are not looking like Tate is going to be. Back for next season that to find your stand the peace emoji correctly. And I think I do, but Ben I know you're pretty awful at translating among the emoji means 'cause that's the wrong choice, though. Ben, how're you feeling about this. How you feel about maybe it's cryptic season for some of these players, but that two cryptic to me. So it's interesting because Ben as always is eating on the podcast. You can't him eating right now. Can you know, I I have a bacon bit my mouth 'cause I'm in MAC and cheese that I made and the leftovers with bacon on anyway. Yeah. It's interesting because the peacein were interpreting to me he's leaving. Right. But he says like also turns out, you know, you can do extensions before March which would indicate that he's been told that we'll talk with you. We'll talk to you about an extension in March which would indicate that the eagles might be looking to add more fragile receivers. They might be seeing who they're cutting so on and so forth. So maybe there is a chance to go. Take us back. They just don't want to address that until March to get a cheaper option and Tate his understandably as veteran taking Portland. So he wants to just go. Susan tell you. That's right spot. Whatever do you think? It's smart that if the eagles are eventually Asha gonna make a move on Tate to give him time to really test. What his value is. Or do you think they don't even think they're going to be in the same ballpark with him? Just like, well, we'll see what happens, but we can't offer something that you'll like right now. That's all ask you this way. You know? I've got Tate is not traded to eagles stays with the Detroit Lions continues to have a decently productive. But generally, you know, like a a lighter season for him. And then hates free agency. What his stock and free agency if we're not treated eagles be higher or lower than it is right now, man, I I would think it's got to be in the same ballpark. Definitely didn't do himself any favors. I think it would be higher. Right. I think he would have a higher right value to stay with the lions these then you can explain, you know, his his his general like maybe like lesser production. Just because the lines I've gone through golden chain new offense coordinator job, creators, fire, whatever that ended up then that explains that and now all right like taste the base of the free market. Honestly, probably still is the biggest name of the white sea refer. Agent market. He's he's going up against guys like Robbie Anderson and j JJ Nelson and John Brown like, you know, it's not a huge waters your free agent market. So he's very he still gonna be valued guy. But I think is his stock slow below X. He went to Philadelphia a good offense and really they weren't able to get him integrated. And they only became successful when they started taking targets away from him and following them to other players. And so I think Tate stock is lower Feb regards. So I liked it. Philadelphia's willing to let him hit the Frazier market. See what he's worth because maybe he will be cheaper than you would have intimated. I still think he's gonna go get science where I think he's one of the best. Why was he was in the free agent market? But there's no reason to take a guy who perform the way take did over the last eight games for you and extend him immediately. You know, what I mean, you should take a look at what else you can get especially, you know, it's been reported that they have interest in a guy like, Robin, John Ron John Brown do that can really fly. So maybe John Brown becomes the the deep guy. Whatever the moral of the story is nobody really expected them to resign Tate. I think we'll probably within the next day or so get. Classic. You know agent encourage tweet that's like low y'all guys re too much into the stuff. Ha dang things. Right. We'll get bad like face saving thing. I don't think this reflects terribly bad on on or anything. It's just business doing business. You know what? I mean. That's just like the reality of the situation. Whether or not the eagles need a wide receiver the extent to which they do and where they're going to get that guy's really initially conversation. I don't know about you might in my seven around mach, which currently doesn't have all the picks eagles because there's no picks yet that we know of like, obviously, we expect them. But those get this month. I didn't like to see 'cause I don't see it as a super big need for them. But the why so why does your position, you know, you got you got Mike Wallace? And then you have Nelson Igor who who's set to mcdonagh half-million as we've discussed before in the show. I don't wanna pay Nelson. I run on a half million dollars this year. Someone's got to be done about that as well. Yes. Oh, baby. Restructure, or like, I alluded to before outside shot for trade something to that effect. That will see what happens from there you mentioned. Rod the Anderson might ears perk because I'm thinking the eagles might make another push towards him as well. We'll see what he commands on the open market. Speaking of the open market, Jordan Hicks, recently has said or alluded to the fact that he wants to test free agency in kind of see what he's worth out there, which I can't imagine is a whole lot considering his injury history. But when he is on the field. He has definitely been a difference maker for the eagles played like the best linebacker on the team last year. So that would be a hit to the eagles. If he were to walk in free agency, you're talking Nigel, Bradley and the team is either gonna like community hill. Or nit Gary as the as the second linebacker now. It's of note, the eagles spent a lot of their time in nickel in big time in big nickel a lot of those different packages. Right. So bas- packages three starting linebackers that third starting spot doesn't mean a whole lot. But I think it is notable that fixed leaves you're talking about promoting someone like commute to a full time starter, which would be my choice there in has been my choices last preseason to be overnight, Gary. But then after that, you're looking at, you know, veteran debt pieces that are more special teams guys it really does kind of create a whole there. And at the very least the depth is very troublesome as well. So that might increase the need for linebacker in this draft. And I look at this linebacking class, and I was talking about this today on Twitter. I don't know if this is the best class to go and get one I'm not through with the class yet by any means when I took it took a look at the top. And we were talking about it with Joe Marino last week from the draft network about some of those linebackers out there like Devon white. We have questions about the athlete fish. Profile is nice. But mental processing is just not there yet Devin Bush is a guy that I'm really comfortable with. But I'm comfortable with them. With a second round grade. I understand what I'm getting with him, which there's limitations there. But overall, I liked I liked the product Mak Wilson, I watch him in Alabama. And I watched the guy next to one the guy next to him is just absolutely out playing him. I thought he was played by Moses. Then you look at the rest of the group who is is the the kid from Duke is a is a project like Terrell hangs from Mexico state that they might look out later like I haven't really worked through the group. But I'm kinda worried about the top of this group and also the middle portions because I don't think there are many solutions there. So they may have to look to free agency for a cheaper. Just gimme a reliable guy. Give me some someone that understands what's going on around him as that third piece because I don't think the eagles have that guy right now, unless they have more faith in Gary than I do, and I don't have a whole lot of faith in my understand. He's a safety convert. But you want ask out what Nate yet? It would look like if it was good. Yeah. Let's do it. What does he look like Ben Burtt curve wash? Even a procurement is basically a safety. Right. I mean for his size. He they say to twenty two auto even planet at that weight. Oh, yeah. Okay. He definitely played to twenty two. He definitely if okay he played under two twenty two Devon Bush way. It went down butchers out there getting mauled by office of linemen. I can't get like Bush is really good sidelined asylum of impactful box, man. I really struggle getting on Bush. I like Bamber urban more than a lot a lot of folks. Do there's some folks who like him more than I do. I'm more ninety which is wild. But yeah, you saying Berkovitz, basically a safety the thing about that. Is that a here that like framework and everything, but what I really like about bourbon is typically of these undersize linebackers who don't know how to approach contact in thereby aren't aggressive coming downhill Burke, Irvine is soubra aggressive end and measured end intentional an intelligent coming downhill in terms of he knows how to attack lockers deconstruct them in present to gap is absolutely gonna lose regular. Guys were hundred pounds superior. There's no way around that. And he's probably a guy who's a bit maxed out like, you know, you're not gonna make him much bigger. But if we're talking about putting him next to two hundred forty pound Nigel bradtha mood. We can probably hide that size problem a little bit. But I agree with you in the sense that I don't think this linebacker class is great in something that we've just start the year with when you watch them white who never really has has that out. Never really be ironed out the issues to me. The only round one grade in this class will be MAC Wilson. I agree with you, Moses. The man they're they're little strong side edge Dudayev Anoma. This freshman is the Rick and man he's rate. But overall, you're at a point where I think that met Wilson's Wilson be my one I wouldn't hate Wilson to the eagles. I just don't think they're ever gonna go linebacker one. It's Mike K of engine com who had the status of deals having drafted around online like seventy nine automations like it's not a position that high Roseman with the way he approaches team building is gonna value. So it's gonna be a role playing sort of guy who comes on day to day three. That's. Guys liked it. My mum I'm talking about. So I'll tell you this the thing that I do like about benbridge Caribbean is the fact that he played for years as a linebacker, and he's not like a third safety convert that we have to reach as is and everything that's a plus this this this mile. Listen, my like, half, serious half ached take on member kurban you. Remember shack Thompson coming out Washington. Right Thomson was like athletic speedy a little out of control undersized guy any play that like about five six years ago. I wanna say twenty twenty fourteen draft into he played like safety linebacker running back for them. Right. And he was more athletic preserving for sure. But like if if you took college Thompson and put him back on the two thousand eighteen washing huskies, he would play bourbons Rolex. That's how offices have changed enough in the Pac twelve like you can play linebacker at that size. You know, what I mean bourbon in his undersize nece represents the changes in linebacker play specifically in that conference the Pac twelve point where you can let him you on. I mean like the. Utah had chase Hanson plan. Linebacker to twenty five Cody Barna two-thirty, those are two main linebackers. They're both sub two-thirty guys and Utah had second best defensive pectoral, arguably, you know, up there, I'm caliber with Washington. So it's it's what that conference demands. Now in terms of linebacking boy on again blow the fact he's three or starter there Washington. He didn't go from safety to starting job stolen, Azeem Victor suspended. All right. He hopped in and never relinquished the job victories hands destroyed the Invictus draft stock. Yeah. In China that no one had any interesting if I'm not mistaken. Did he go undrafted mistaken as Victor I think he did? And then a pressure area Keyshawn area. His his running mate linebacker number seven to the Broncos Victor win Holloway in the six round forty forty second pick in the six round to the raiders on your and then and then I think I'm pretty sure areas on the Broncos I liked area, Victor, so yeah, we'll we'll move on from that. But yet it's going to be an interesting conversation. As far as far as what we're going to do with that. Now whole if Hicks does in fact test the market find something that he likes and moves on. Let me ask you a let me ask you another NFL question before we get into the mock drafts. Has sounds great bend. I love talking with you. Let's go talk Mike dozen abortionists coming. So it's often of Mike. I have John Dorsey on the line. He's willing to send you Duke Johnson for the eagles fourth round pick which pick one hundred and twenty one overall I wanna say one hundred twenty one. Yeah. Santa fourth. Gimme Duke your how it what you do. You're looking for a back with that skill set you like picking one around that area as we've seen? He brings the skill set that we want we can split him out. I pull the trigger. I say, yeah. I think it's worth fourth. See, I'm not, right. My my only umbrage with that. Is the idea that you're looking for a back with that skill set? The eagles have their third down pass catching back on. I mean, even if it's not Darren sproles coming back penalty, not retiring that I think it's Corey Clement. I think that's where they. Him. I think where he is most successful when he was the third down guy last year in twenty seventeen. Do you think you showed them enough to how faith in not make a move on someone that has that kind of skill set? If it's there for four, right? Exactly. Like is that enough end like, you know, is it bad to have all of your backs able to be pass catching backs. Probably not you know what I mean. So I if it comes down to and this is a two again to this with eagles fans all the time. Do the eagles want to be running back by committee or have been forced to be running back by committee because of the talent question one question two, which you know is corollary to question one really what defines a committee. I'll put it to you this way. I don't think for as long as duce Staley is the running backs coach deputy as the head coach the eagles will ever have game where three running backs don't at least one touch. You know, what I mean like they had a couple of games this year were like it was just smaller than atoms when they had like nobody healthy. Right. But if they're at full strength. They're gonna want. They're gonna have throwback someone again touches, I think it's just like the nature how they wanna run it. Them. You saw that with Peterson. Casey, nothing that deuce really likes his ability like ride the hot hand, you talked about that before. So I think they want to be committee. I think they will draft. According to be committee that doesn't mean you won't invest a decent day too. Big a guy that doesn't mean you won't give guy. Fifteen twenty carries when the situation warranted. They just want to have multiple guys who deserve touches. Like, that's a better problem to have than have all your eggs in one basket. He gets injured or to have only one guy who deserves touches. And now, you're you're stuck you're forced your funneled into that that player that position. So I think they wanna be committee. I wanna give just I do Johnson's the ideal committee back in the NFL because like you said about wide, Mike hurry up in twenty two personnel. This how patriots Los Angeles Rams this baby, Greg. It's a coverage indicator, and you're not taking a step down from just having a guy out there and take one step and look to the quarterback. He can actually run out and be productive that way. So yeah, we have no idea what the future of do Johnson is now that and for those who don't know this the reason we're asking the question the Browns. Today. Monday signed Kareem hunt, the Kansas City running back who was released from the chiefs due to a salt incident, violent incident with a woman it in Cleveland hotels. A matter of fact hunt in has has has made promises in strives was rehabilitation the Browns have laid out there their policy from returning. He will be suspended. He won't be available for the beginning of two thousand nineteen sees we don't yet know for how many games, of course, John Dorsey, the new GM of the Cleveland Browns is the general manager who originally drafted cream on out until Lido and Kareem didn't have a rap she out of Toledo, but he was kind of you'd into Lido even when he was being recruited to plan to lead as a bit of a a tough guy to work with at times potentially character red flags. So you know Dorsey is obviously done work on that before the amount of work. He's done on the specific incident. I don't know they said they did a lot of work. But then again, the kind of always do Kareem hunt. Nick Chubb, a last year's second round pick their ZOA a second year player out of Georgia and do John. Now who was extended at a pretty a small figure pre manageable figure now feeling that running back room. It's fantastic. Three D. They're running back. You don't really know how those types are gonna be divided. And do Johnson is viewed as movable, you know, he he he was called not expendable yet. You know what? I mean, those kind of the answer that they gave in the press or announcing the cream hunt signing if Johnson's on the move there will be calls for him. And I think he is very nice Philadelphia. Does the sign me up for four Johnson. I'm they're also really gonna pass protection despite his size. He's a dog. He angered yeah. Obviously got clips on my time when I cannot I can find when I was watching one offs league. Get my grind tape school. Exactly. That's what I do, man. That's what we do in. What we also do grind tape about these NFL draft prospect, so main topic for today a prince. Seven round mock. From Ben end myself, I did one as well. I had one tutorial I had one that is like the ultimate won't be there. Mock that won't be there guy will love, but I didn't make the rules that just happened all use the other one. But Ben I'll kick it to you for the first one since you wrote this whole thing out for draft network dot com. Go check that piece out pick twenty five. The eagles are on the clock. Hit me with the good stuff. Who you got them? I Jafri Simmons entrance attack on a Mississippi State. And now, you know, we talked about cream hunt type Jeffrey Simmons Jeffrey Simmons was I believe a freshman or have a redshirt freshman sophomore was twenty sixteen. He had an incident where he he he beat a woman, and it was caught on camera. This one was in an argument with his sister. And he was, you know, a reacting from a place of anger aggression. Also from a place seemingly of some sort of filial. Loyalty says the situation that's not super cut and dry in terms of why he acted the way that he did all reports out of the Mississippi. Day program, which again, this is not irregular. There's times where it's opposite. But this is not irregular and been he's he's he's a wonderful exemplary of leadership of character. Will they like the bulldog program to represent Simmons? Was you know, there was the consideration that he was going to be moved on from the Mississippi State program was gonna release him. They eventually liked it not to to the degree to which that revolves around his character in the way, he holds himself unclear. Simmons was also the best recruitment sippy states had a while at that time. And so. Multiple layers to them. Simmons was not invited to NFL combine as result of this and his pass, which is a policy the combine is upheld. Whether or not it makes sense it continued up hold. I particularly think it's one of the dumbest things in the world. But Simmons's guy is going to have to answer a lot of questions teams have been rumored to be okay with him in the first round given what he's done over the past few years in response to this this this violent outbursts this incident. So he's first round viable. He's the guy that that is is not like Joe mixon case where somebody's gonna make sure they draft him in the second just to make sure that he's you know, the kind of clear that bar. He's first round viable nephew driving. The first round you have to deal with the fact that there's a video of him beating a woman, and that video is going to circulate for a whole twenty four hours before we get to 'round to around three then it's gonna continue to circulate after that. So as picky tricky, but Philadelphia the benefit of coach who's renowned for Canada emotional intelligent aspect to him coaches renowned for being able to connect with players and have very good feel. They also have a very well. Savage locker at the time of good veteran presence. You could argue that that discourages them from drafting Simmons because it would look like a reneging on what they've really sabotaged in Philadelphia in the locker room or you can look at it. As a sign of this infrastructure in place to help Simmons be successful to deal with stepping to the NFL level to all of a sudden and being a multimillionaire so on so forth. I don't think Simmons will be off the board for Philadelphia won't. Maybe we'll know more time goes on. I don't think he will be. But I didn't even that. He's not makes perfect sense for what they need next Fletcher. Cox guy complete one tech in three tech can absolutely handle double teams in the run game. And in the past rush game. Fudge Cox, an ex bulldog. An ex Mississippi State player is my comparison for Jeffrey Simmons a play. I have my top ten falling to twenty five in part, probably because team some teams will have him off the list recently learned Mike that Daniel chair mind made the same comparison said Fletcher Cox to Jefferson's that makes me feel pretty good. I'll be like six four three ten is the frame hands. Are unbelievably powerful pass rushes. Good can even get better filling out of soften angles a little bit better than settlement as Russia better. Hey, Cox, graded that immediately steps defensive tackle position. Which increasingly I'm becoming more and more interested in David's attack on round one. I've seen this conditional joining being released, but I really like that as so Jefferson pick twenty five overall. So in the ultimate won't be there. Mock I had an Oliver fall to me maybe because some teams find him as a linebacker or some teams to necessarily thing in the thing is like we love at all in the media. But it's a very legit. Like right saying that Oliver could fall to the teens and twenties. Yeah. So that would be a really interesting scenario if at all of our is there, but I ended up taking Jeffrey Simmons is well, I share a lot of the same. As Ben does. I don't hate comparisons. But I like that comp with some Cox, the guy is an absolute animal you look at what chip used to bring in. And they're always like team captains and everything. Like that. Like how we Roseman isn't necessarily that style not saying these all loosey-goosey and everything like that. But it's not. Strengthen as it used to be. If this were chip Kelly, Jeffrey Simmons would definitely not be someone that I would be linking to them. I may I remember the draft with Marcus Peters and Nelson Adler, and I said, I want Marcus Peters. But my assumption is because of the character of Nelson, galore and the character, Marcus Peters. Stuck opposed each other that chip Kelly will ultimately take Nelson Lor, and that's what happened I want. Landon collins. Oh, yeah. That draft from Harrisburg Pennsylvania on my way to state scholastic scrimmage competition. I was in the hotel ready next day, man. I was going to war. Hi, this is Jim this. Check out our podcast step over Moby ballers podcast network for all of your Sixers needs. Game breakdowns with a cool. Senate headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcast feed. An I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball, mostly. Before we get to the second pick. Ben. I was kinda hoping that when I did mind that Boston College interior offense alignment Chris storm would be there. Just for the discussion. But from a value perspective, I think it's enticing and something you would have to think about as only as a stopgap, Phil. But an upgrade in a long-term answers while because I think this guy's gonna be ten years in the league, just a super solid. Here's how my process with Chris Lindstrom went number one. Watching the senior bowl say to yourself. Hey, this guy's damn good. I gotta check out his tape. Number to watch one game. Say hey, self disguise, probably first rounder. Number three watch the second game. First rounding intensifies number four watched the third game hit him with an official first round. Great number five. Forget about for a while. Number six see that you need to follow up on some interior divas aligned prospects like Gerald villas from Miami. Number seven watch Bilas get dominated by Lindstrom against Boston wash. He wa. Washed Willis wash them as so law eight tape every rep he lost every rep against Lindstrom. Number eight circle. First round grave for Chris list them so easy evaluation for from you can start anywhere on the interior. He dabbled in some work tackle, it is time to BC. You put him in your underrated your five underrated prospects article for draft network dot com. Ben real quick before we moved on to the second pick year, regardless. Would you ultimately pull the trigger or not which went least give it some thought that the eagles might be interested in Lindstrom and filling up that interior offensive line? No, I figured as much because it's all depending on Kelsey right, Alvin Kelsey and also they and Saint Malo they don't want him snapping. He Nagas nabbing and it wasn't great van preseason during training camp. And also, I think he got good at left guard don't fix what I'm broke adding into that fact that I think that if Kelsey goes, I think it's a situation where they I remember, I don't think it was a free agent. I think was not Selander contract. Mizzou's cylinder contract. Yeah. But I think would you was new ski would be your meat move to center there on you would address that was actually later pick building him up yet was new still around at three point seven what deal. Anyway, how I mean? It's still I still think was wiz would start a half the lines league. Yeah. So now, I don't I don't is bay into your Wyoming that high of need. I could see it being a later need later pick draft, a great athlete. See if you can make if you can, you know, pay twice on Kelsey, which would be nuts. But you know, like, you know, take take the inquisitive glance if you want you need to get younger in that room you into space or the next two seasons losing a whiz calcium warm Mak, which leaves Sam. Although and Matt prior random Brooks as your three who you have around. You're probably gonna wanna add another young to that mix. What about your bradberry in a second round NC state? I mean, my issue like a free agency goes great, and they have as many immediate needs. Let's get it man on there. I'm on the train, but we got address. We gotta figure out I'm in dreamworld. Go ahead, namely of tackle three slash OT. One of the future left tackle the future. I hit with Yod could use any odd. Knee is a player that we discussed on the Joe Marino the show listen to the previous show from kiss on the feed out of West Virginia attack was gonna hit measurable numbers pretty nicely. Who's gonna hit good testing numbers in the three cone in the short shuttle ten yard split. I think is explosive quick technique wise. Absolutely like fine survivable, you could start them in your one and stay afloat. But it would benefit him w I think a lot of that is just the reality of like prospecting in the big twelve where you're just not seeing seventy nine Tech's that much. You're just not seeing guys where you're gonna regularly see them in the NFL coming actually the ways, they typically are you're sitting tight fronts. They're not coming at that wide angle at you with speed rushes and things writer. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, when we talk about big twelve defense. That's good. We're talking about. Three-man front so odd man fronts writing about four and five techniques guys who are to gap Inc. Is who are reading inside out there? First step is not intended to beat you in the pass rush. It's to leverage against the run because they have responsibilities against the run because big twelve defensive trying to drop seven eight into coverage because the big twelve hour, if you if you don't watch college football, you mono this big throws the ball. They have to sling the pill as it were. And so you're even to Lyman are not quick Jerry that pass rush. You're trying to drop underneath guys into coverage. Take with the quick game. Take away the RPO game. And then you're gonna get more coverage sacks than anything else. And that's not true everybody, right? Like TCU's out there Russian edge. Guys taxes is out there Russian edge guys could use game against OJ. Call your to you was very good got him. So right. And so here's a great example where L J Collier. And I wanna look I don't remember exactly what he weighed in as at the senior bowl. He's a longer guard. He was trying to get him with the long arm of bunch of in. He was able to to Trump a couple of times. It was nice, right? Violent hands. Right jakarta. Yes. So collar is crazy ample TCU's got unless at six four to seventy six. So he's a he's a great example of a or type like six four to seventy six guy is not what could use is going to be seeing. Right. When he's taking, you know, forty five degrees sets for like the first time, but like regularly for the firm. First time. He's game. Be seeing to sixty guys who are three times a quick, you know, what I mean? It's like, it's it's just a good transition for for in my opinion for big twelve months of linemen, and especially when with could use type nickel flaws sue game in the second round cinema left tackle for a year cinema behind Jason Peters. Bring him up twenty twenty. He's your your favorite start coming into camp. Probably gonna win the job over big. The other thing about could use is that there's the idea that he may be to guard C has some balance issues. So he does give you, you know, the potential to move there in the future. If that's like, you know, big the Jordan, my of pan out, whatever you want. So they could use at fifty three would be a great value off my board. It makes ton of what Philadelphia's do on their offense of line. I mean, I would consider could use that at twenty five. So when he was sitting there for me at fifty three jumped all over in the alternate won't be there. Mock I got Joshua Jacobs at fifty throwing back to Alabama, and then got could use that fifty seven because I wanted to grab him anyway. But Josh Jacobs at. Twenty five are you happy or sad with that pig? It happens on April Thursday, the twenty seventh of Haggas rate at one ten right now choose and never waver before I love the player. He's the only complete back that I see in this class that I don't have really many concerns with whatever any has no tread on his tires whatsoever. Brings a playmaking aspect to this offense would bring a steady back. But again, we're going to be a committee. We're going to do all these different things than I think we can get value later on. I think the eagles see it that way too. When you're also looking at some of the more immediate needs at higher positions of priority. Like offense attack will like some of the interior offensive line guys for the future like defensive line all along that line and also the safety position. So I would I would go with a four because I love the player. I feel like that's that's good value for me. But ultimately, I'm not a big move first round running back. I you know, I loved Darius guys last year in thirty two. I would have been all over it. But that was very different team, then and guy. Was a higher player on my board significantly than what Jacobs will be still like Jacobs. But he's got a high second round grade from me, how do you feel that the Josh shake-ups Alvin Kamara comparison? I mean, everyone gets compared to Alvin Kamara. Yeah. What I didn't notice that either. Everyone's looking for the next Kareem hunt that doesn't get into those types of incidents. The least that's what the is before that happened or everyone's like getting compared to Alvin Kamara. It's just it's soul. Hats me touched his Jacobs and justic very good football player. I really don't. I really don't mess around with comps like that. That's just pay. I feel like he's got similar burst. And I feel that there's very similar contact balance. There. I could see those similarities see, that's my thing is I think that I think Alvin kamera's contact balance. And I think that Josh Jacobs cosmic valances goal. I think Jacobs is a little bit more official scouting terms, by the way. And you Jay Jacobs a little more of a take on guy than Chimaera Chimaera loves some some contact. But I think as far as running style his little more take on van of it is Jacob's is super urgent runner rice. He's very much. So like daylight upfield below amity cool as his foot work in his flexibility through heads down in. So it allows them to do that. Because you. Can stop on die dupe it. Right. And so that's change of direction. That's where I'm going to categorize that trait. And as a result, your contact balance will suffer when you're super urgent style runner because Yulia call your feet just out from underneath your hips. You know what I'm saying? You'll get just caught a head of yourself that happens to Joe mixing that was one of my concerns hit coming up. Right. So they got so so that I can't get around the alad Kamera thing. I teased Frank gore a little bit for Josh Jacobs kinda thought about that like, you know, like younger sprayer Frank Goertz after remember him because he's been a league for years. He's been healthy or nyc lake you know, as as quick for the first half of that. But I haven't land on when he he in mile Sanders out of Penn State at the two running backs. I really just can't get a good feel on a cop. Forum. Sanders is guy got early three. And he's really good athlete. But he's time he needs to learn what he's doing is a one year starter whose way too interested in in in like he wants to break eleven tackles. Every place was like Honey, just go pick up five. Yards play another down. But anyway, fifty seven. Yeah. Fifty seven who did you take you can go first time until took darnold savage the safety out of Maryland. We needed safe you offer FOX safety. I think is a guy that you can eventually develop right now, he is not a center fielder. He does not have a good feel for it. That's where his mental processing released rebels. He's a goal. Make the now play kind of guide downhill go get it. I love his aggression. I love is competitive Thomas. I feel like he's going to be able to stick with guys. And I feel like he's gonna test well too. I love what he brings to the table as a box safety right now in a love the fact that you're going to be able to possibly get more out of him from versatility standpoint. As you move forward throughout his career when the eagles were really need him. And at the same time, you're getting an absolute demon on special teams if I can project skills correctly, Ben your I like this idea because I think savage on the field less run more trap coverages. And if we learned anything from the first three to the season, then once more trap coverage is like the Christian Miller. Her the edge out of Alabama fifty seven. Here's the thing. Here's the thing about that. If the having a real life, I feel a word about it. Because Miller is dealt with significant injury over his time, Alabama. He's not been able to stay healthy is is an all soft tissue stuff. It's so hard to find a good injury database for caller. I know. Yeah. I mean if they teams not listed, right? Like he has a lower body injury. While then I have no idea what is happening at a bone bruises of the Hammy. What is it because we know that Miller could not participate in the senior bowl because of that hamstring that he suffered later on the season. There was also some previous issues with as well. Yeah. So it's Deva the hamstring was the one that happened this year and a playoffs. I feel like my head. I feel like there was a knee at some point. I'm not positive injury prone. They did the same thing with Josh sweating around four last year. Right. Sweat too late day too late round to grade the draft in late round four. Okay. Miller. Have you just take Miller's state route one? Kin run on a thirty degree go to the ground. Unbelievable. He's hand usage to soften. And then clear and then corner is on its herald Landry ask the alignment, you would use him in in my opinion is the eagles more than a guy like Montas sweat. I think Miller of fruit fruitfully people who mock Montesquieu to the eagles dumb make much sense to me, but that different conversation. So I- Miller makes on a sense. He's he'd be another. Let's gamble on an injury high upside edge rusher and seeing get one of them to hint to hit. And then you're going, you know Barnette, plus then it question Mark on the outside. And then it's behind them, Josh weighing Christian Miller. And if you on one of those two it's win you know, what I mean if you get one starting Calvert edge rusher out of a second and fourth round pick. I'm fine. Like, they're both great players. I don't hate that. At all. I like that. They're I think the eagles do have a serious chance to go early. They lose Brennan grams are gonna wanna add a potential to contract body to that rotation which is going to be. Around one round to around three pick given what edges cost in the NFL draft. So I think I think eagles drafting an edge in their top three or four picks is going to be something that is going to be pretty regular all my mom crafts this season. At something that expect to see now we don't have access to what compensatory pick the eagles have at the end of the third round. So we are going to skip that. So we apologize. But we are going to move onto the date three picks that we have we'll try to get them just favorite prospect. And that they picking round three you wanna give it you wanna give him in a stack. I'll give mine in a stack. Let's go with one twenty one. I went Elisa Holyfield the running back out of Georgia. He's not lasting one Twenty-one baby. That's a good player. That wasn't even on my won't be there won't be there. Mock in the other one I took Meco Hartman at once one. But in the other Mark I did at one fifty three miekel Harbin the wide receiver out of Georgia was still there. So I took him another guy. I don't think it's going to be there. He's gonna test really really. Well, right now one dollar bet. I think jihadi field is off the born April before Meco Hartman Holyfield. Holy. Field shoot. I who's off the board. First Holyfield hardman. I'm gonna go hardman. I think we're gonna go Holyfield. The loser has by the winter a vending machine item vending machine item. Like a pop tart. He always get around by me popular. That's fine. I mean, I get to choose obviously depends on Phelan at the time depends on the vending machine. That sounds good. So we'll have that in there. I think hardman's gonna blaze is gonna go his time. Emmanuel hall is a Hollywood Brown are. So that you go, right. I love Holyfield's tape too. I just have a real issue projecting him as a pass catcher because he has seven career catches at Georgia. That's it. So the way he catches the ball and runs out at the runs routes at the combine is going to be very important for him in his thought. But as a runner man is he good. All right. My last pick at one eighty five Terrell Hanks, the linebacker out of New Mexico state another safety convert but did play year of linebacker for New Mexico state. He's got he's allow. Player. He's real aggressive. Got some lunging us to tackle there. He's still got a figured out upstairs whatnot. But some guy, you know, that that you like lettuce isn't profiles a physical profile one the way at the senior bowl. He was jacked up just carved from marble. So that's a guy for me that you may be developing nothing hits and free agency. And like I said, I don't like this linebacker class on not taking any of 'em word. You know, I would evaluate them earlier in the draft. But someone that maybe you can develop in bring some youth and death to that team like his coverage gills, I think is if he hits ceiling doggone good, pick at a good value that you've got to be patient with them. Then what about your stack? I'm very curious to see where Hanks goes 'cause I like feeling team is gonna Darius Leonard him to very honest. Like, all like, listen. Darius land is gonna go at one twenty end the cultural at one about thirty five one thirty six tonight that the obviously I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Pretty nicely for them. If you noticed like that that really hit us on nowhere. Yeah. Round four pick one Twenty-one. I guess right by the early show to Evan Worthington safety, Colorado in the simple fact is safety is don't usually come six one two hundred plus with free safety range. Evan worth six two hundred plus free drainage, thirty two in something in arms got really great size profiles to be able to play deep, and he has the speed to play really does has pretty good hip hinges. Well angles are hit or miss right now in that makes his play hit or miss. He will give a big place. You'll also have insane interceptions like wide receiver body tore interceptions clefts against USC skins UCLA from last year that you can really see like man this guy can track attack. Exactly like you wanna see he has box ability because of his size because he has good man cover stuff as well. He can get physical. So that you go you like his combo ability. Here's the problem. He's so inconsistent his Nebraska tape. This year is probably one of the worst games. I've watched in the fourth round. Like, it's just so tricky this guy who came out of a Jew, go. College was suspended for year in the Colorado program for unknown violation of team rules Sagata figure that out, you know, he's he's married. He's got a kid like, you know, he is a is an older prospect. He's a gamble. But when you're talking about potential starting safeties because he's got the Bill the physical tools in flash place potential starter round four one Twenty-one, I'm not sticking knows about anybody. So that's selection their round five where I've actually went running back one hundred fifty three divine zig, not know Brassica, Tom ri-, young fella, two hundred twenty five pounds. You can really really move really fluid guy. Very springy. Great jump cuts for it size can drop his hips. I love it a lot a non combine invite which is shocking to me was the the biggest surprise lack of combat might who shrine game guy that really the more film against him the more on liking him if he has while does pro day, which hey to produce you're gonna test. Well, a he will sneak into a round three. For me at the back end of round three fits the zone scheme, but Philadelphia likes to do nicely. He's a Carlos Hyde type to me, I think that that that's perfect with the mafia once gone to your head, Bruce, Sanderson divine. Visit who will I rank higher probably Ziga? I haven't live through Anderson film yet. But I really like him you'll go through Anderson film. You're gonna love him. I'm doing or s p with Matt Waldman coming up soon tomorrow actually slyly stunt on a little bit. So I'm going to teach all you folk about Mumand, Bruce Anderson. So check that out when it drops Ben having have the phone how many of you have into it, but you need to. And then make sure that you are the playoffs too. Because I went back to pull a clips for what me Matt are gonna talk about. I hadn't seen the playoff games yet playoff game. Just reinforced my love on I'm smitten. Another combine something he's gonna talk. Joe? Marina loves zander's. Every time I bring him up. Joe's on my mentioned say I can't believe you have been invited to the combine. It's ridiculous. A travesty of Justice, and it will not go unchallenged, Ben. Yes. My last pick round six. One eighty four overall took linebacker Ryan Conley, Wisconsin Collins smart player he wins. With anticipation you wins with instinct. And so if he sees it develop he regularly beats off the lime into their spot. You can draw a tips you can hold and he's constantly turning plays back into the teeth of the defense. Will he makes a lot of non box score plays in my opinion. I really like his ability to get downhill to beat blocks to their spot to be polars to beat fullbacks. And he plugged the gap forces the runningback star to freelance, and that's what the rest of your defenders can open up. So I like him as a Sam will in preferably Sam. But will also for that reason. Now, I wanna call range silent sideline. It's good. It's probably not that great. And when he doesn't anticipate he needs to learn how to start playing with his hands. He needs to learn how to attack downfield. He's not super dissimilar my opinion to how MU was when he was much younger when it was worse. In terms of really great in space. Good set in the edge of whatever. But like when he didn't see it happening. He was regularly losing his second level climbers sealing off so on fourth. Out of this problems, but around sex Connolly's absolutely Ross Rable. I think he's fine as the deaf player abs- absolutely going to be a good special teams guy. You don't want scout helmets. But Wisconsin players typically are end so Connolly as my as my sex round pick up the phone pretty good. 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The Kist & Solak Show #68: Slowing Down the Saints' Offense

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The Kist & Solak Show #68: Slowing Down the Saints' Offense

"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin, so lag. It's the kissed Solex show presented by SP and bleeding nation. You are high on the kissed and so lack show. This is episode sixty eight brought to you by the folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your host Michael kiss while at me on Twitter at Michael kissed and as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin. So lack follow him on Twitter at Benjamin. So like, that's S O L A K. Ben, how're you doing road? You didn't say what number episode was there said it was sixty sixty eight or you're not listening to me. Usually, it's me this this not listening to you weigh sixty eight no, it's not it's like sixty five or something. No, sixty seven was the one with Evan Silva yesterday, by the way, if you haven't heard that go back and take a listen to that Evan silver from rota world joins us for episode sixty seven this is sixty eight Ben is buying time. Because he can't find Jordan. Have Jordan my life? So we finally got out of that nasty area. The sixties there were no active players with those numbers. And I was just making stuff up a call an office a linebacker off as linemates. I have no idea who he was or wasn't played that it was just googling him on the fly. People were very upset. With me every day is a good day to be alive, buddy. Eagles are playing the saints. How you doing I'm doing? Well. Yeah. The eagles are gearing up for their divisional round match up with New Orleans Saints big rematch from week eleven today's topic of the show. The main topic is going to be we're gonna preview the eagles off. I did it again Ben every week. Every time. Do we change the order that much or now I feel like we get into a rhythm of four or five weeks? Then son will be go. I wanna watch the bears defense I and likable fillet. When when a team has an elite unit we wanna watch that one. I yes, we definitely had Houston defense. I write n we're doing saints often for his fate. That's what decides. Yeah. So this preview is gonna be the saints offense against the Philadelphia. Eagles defence on the next preview show will flip that will do the eagles offense against the saints defense. Keep it with the saints offense for today. Nail that I take as always. But I obviously some house cleaning to do. Now, we are recording on a Thursday morning. So we're still working with the Wednesday estimated injury report or walk throughs, or whatever the case was so this may be a little outdated, but we are going to use this as kind of a guideline because there are some talking points to talk about within these injury reports on Wednesday did not participate for the eagles. Michael bennett. He really isn't practicing all that much this time of the year. That's fine. I would not expect him to miss anytime. Carson Wentz issue with the back limited participation DJ Alexander and that hamstring on every single. Injury report. So we'll see if he plays or not wide receiver Sean Jeffrey dealing with some ribs Sidney Jones with his hamstring. Of course, offense tackle, Jason Peters with quadricep. He's been on every one of these injury reports for the entire year as well. What was the phrase was the sparred phrase come back with your shield or on it? That's how Jason Peters is going to leave the game of football. Come back on your shield. Right. Yeah. Come back with your shield or on it out. So like either alive or dead yet? Golden Tate is dealing with a knee knock end wide receiver. Mike Wallace still trying to come back from his ankle injury. Pretty standard fare here. Ben anything to add on the injury side for the eagles. No, nothing. I can think of they've talked about Cindy Johnson. We tweak don't just pay him coming back into the paint. Putting a even remotely gimpy cine Jones against the saints who saw happening in Dallas. And the saints last time when he was gimpy. Yeah, right. There's actually somebody. This has been a topic that's been discussed all the various it. Eurasians of in terms of if Carson Wentz healthy in how healthy he is in what the future the playoffs could look like this year. Of course, healthy we add Greg doors Agra doors who is a he's a writer for the Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy came alive in for the hard show, who's listening to buy gas shadow. Greg said that he has a take Carson could play through back injury right now Doug is using doctors and a precautionary approach to shield eleven feeling like he bench for foles. If os is hurt in eagles win against saints. When's plays week after which I'm not sure if it would be exactly after probably would be actually championship game. Yeah. But honestly, like, I think there's a very very good shot. Like Carson still could play and they're just gonna keep him in the cooler because I'm absolutely have deactivated him. They're human the cooler because the worst possible thing you could do in terms of managing this roster. Into twenty nineteen is win in the playoffs with foale's have foles. Injured. Have Carson come in and lose the next game? That is litter. Let's Defcon for that. Is that is all red alert has you've you've painted yourself into the worst coronet situation. So I don't just pay was Carson at all this playoff. Honestly, I think if the Super Bowl is on the line, maybe they make a push. They get him out there health, even than you're risking. So so much if you loses. Now, my problem with that theory is that it posits that perhaps he was benched because they wanted to mention in. They knew about the injuring it wasn't worse or anything like that after week fourteen. Even though they lost the Cowboys with offense never got to get their hands on the ball. Carson wentz. Played a really good football game at game for the second half football game was bad overall. And at the same time. I mean that was the defense is lost in overtime third in our second in nineteen third nine not being able to get off the field offense. No, we're going to chance. But look or regardless of all that there are a lot of different scenarios that are going to lead to. To media heads talking about different controversies with the quarterback situation. Here's how I been dealing with it all week replacing the New Orleans Saints Nick foles quarterback. And that's how I am operating. So we'll cross that crazy crazy bridge when we get there. Obviously, you know, I don't have a whole lot of interest on about that right now. We're focused on the saints. What's more likely in my opinion? Fulls drives down the field. Oh, boy generates a five point lead on the plan, which he does it against the Rams in the LA. Calcium gets injured Nate Saad failed comes in fence tight ends up. They score a field goal on the drive. They end up winning by eight. I don't know maybe forty three thirty five score like that or something. And then Saad failed wins the NFC championship game against the Cowboys inside feld wins the Super Bowl. And now the eagles have to separate SuperBowl MVP quarterbacks on the roster as well. As Carson Wentz the top three quarterbacks in the NFC east, isn't that a story line? So I was I was actually I was thinking about this. This is not a topic. This show, but I was playing around with my head could fun. My father's favorite thing to do in the entire world is to tell me that you I man he's a hall of fame quarterback because it gets under my skin so easily, right? He's totally disgruntled thing he is realize a hall of fame quarterback in heavy air quotes. Let's say foles wins. This will right nothing. The whole ornament nothing that ally. Manning's resume will be stronger, the Nick foles and no one in their right mind would put put Nick foles in the hall of fame at least this as current understand his career even Super Bowls. He would not make the hall of fame. So there's no way you could convince anybody with a rational mind that alive. The hall of fame is a product of anything other than his last name. But if falls wins this who bowl, the only leg on which allies stands can continue to stand is the Super Bowl wins right now to over one for Eli manning, so foles with this role voles probably gonna better career stats better rate, sats. The winds. So if foles of all his accomplishments if two to submarine the hall of fame bit of ally manning by virtue of comparison, then he will go down. It will they'll put a statue next. Rocky. I wanna stay with us for a second because our friend Justice must Gaiga optimum scouting dot com. Recently released an article I think about five days ago, the title is quantifying the best playoff quarterbacks since the merger. And what he did was he took defense adjusted yards per attempt value for all these playoff quarterbacks since the merger. And then he ranked them ally. Manning right now rings thirtieth Nick foles rings twenty seven right now. Nick, like, I mean that just goes to your argument right there. Nab silly lately. Like, you know, if you are going based off of the typical hall signifier, which tend to be rates Dasan career, compliments, right Nick foles gonna have more records in the ally. Manning, he's probably right now he's gonna he's as better. Rate stats, and then if he has the same degree of playoff success like if you lose his next week he's four into the playoffs for the Super Bowl win. That's still great playoff success. Right. But if he pushes into other Super Bowl berth now. So I I it to the Super Bowl win. Then there's not a single just Sunday. I was thinking about for fun because when I can't sleep a night, I come up with ways to to cannon Yulia Manning's hall of fame bid. That's pretty much time. But like that I wanna own a plug this article though bit more to the top quarterback of all time in the playoffs. Just run through the list real quick Joe Montana, number one. Kurt Warner number two. I love that three is Tom Brady four Kenny stabler five drew Brees. Who were you're gonna play be playing this week? That's a bad omen. Great. Yeah. Exactly. I just do a few more Terry Bradshaw came in at number six or those surprised by because everyone thinks like he just got by on on a really good defense and whatnot. But he pulls out in the playoffs of followed by Peyton Manning, Iran. John Elway Brad floor of those year top ten I thought it was a really interesting way to look at. Playoff quarterback. So a highly recommend that article. Hopefully, Nick foles can move himself up that list in the playoffs this year. Let's get to the eagles side. Or soothe me let's get to the let's get to the Saint side of this injury report. Because there's there's some no care. They're coming off. A by their starters seventeen. They still got limited participation from a lot of their offense of Lyman that's offense attack which German Bushrod with a hamstring off. Its tackle Theron Armstead with a pack which he toured back in week ten if I'm not mistaken and then returned in week sixteen. He was all right not his elite level self 'cause he was playing like an upper echelon tackle before. He tore his pack in week ten offense. Tackle Ryan ramczyk is still dealing with a shoulder injury. Offense of Garly warford with a knee Andrews Pete with a hand as a ton of offense of Lyman that are banged up off of one right exa-, everyone except max under. That's it everyone outside of him dealing with some sort of injury. We've seen some drop in their play which we can talk about also on the defensive side, Alex locavore, dealing with a knee, full participation. Action. And we definitely have to talk about this guy wide receiver. Ted Ginn junior dealing with a knee knock and then safety, Chris banjo. Don't even know who that is. He is dealing with a knee. The reason I wanted to touch on Ted Ginn row. Quick kind of transition into the saints offense eagles deepens preview. Here is been. I know you just got done watching the film on the Pittsburgh Steelers in the New Orleans Saints. I kinda wanted your perspective because I know what I think on how you think Ted Ginn changes offense a little bit in how they wanted to use him when he returned. What would it? What were they looking for from him in his return? When you talk about Ted Ginn is the number one thing you're going to be discussing is the ability to take the top off defense and the ability to draw safeties because he has fantastic deep speed. And if you look at the general way that the saints offense is constructed a number one. And if I'm like ninety central Nevada on the the first black reprieve these guys this is a saints team with a top to MVP candidate in. Breeze. That is producing an amazing rate. They run the ball the fourth most league they run the ball the fourth most frequently right? And so how is this? Saints offense contracted number one. It wants to run the football which again is not is a little confounding. But it's what they want to do until the very start a lot of their drives. First and ten is going to be runs ton of the time. They're going to do it at a twelve personnel to do at twenty one personnel. That's often gonna put breeze on her son, which means that they're passing game is very much. So a five to seven step drop passing game off with play action was hatched to it. Because it's coming from under center. And that's that's a crucial thing to understand for Philadelphia is going to win this game. Is that the saints liked to run their offense out from under center in a lead? That's very heavily shocking oriented that leads to super deep drops for drew Brees, especially because he has to hang back deep in the pocket because he is short, right. Like being short is fine. You can be quarterback short in school. But because you're short they're not gonna have him like, you know cars. Wednes- takes a three step drop plants in stands there. Because carsl six four he's a bit of an idiot. Drew Brees is gonna take. Well. Yeah. Carson like we talked about this is the problem. Carson is how to manage a pocket. It's flaw his feet get stuck a little bit. And he kind of regressed in that area. This year idiots bits drug, but good. Anyway, so breezes kinda take those deep drops. And and it's gonna be like forty five degrees sets from his tackles. And he's gonna have a lot of space in front of him to hitch throw because at seven step drop is just going to be time. With intermediate crossers intermediate dig intermediate out intermediate curl route very often those intermediate routes crossing underneath just clear out routes, and that's what you're gonna get from Ted gins. You're gonna get a ton of vertical push. Whether it's the seamer on the outside in terms of generating space in the intermediate level for breaches drop rainbows in buckets. Just absolute tear-drops in terms of the enemy levels the strength of his game. Now gin will is not exclusively a decoy, obviously, the saints love shallow, crossers and Ginza. Greg hit in stride on shell across her because he can really turn on the jets and go in a corner. So the saints find themselves on the situation where they think they're gonna get man coverage special command coverage blitz cover one covers zero which they know they will get out of Philadelphia. Especially in third medium third along situations. They're going to be very fine to leave gain backside. Run out of shotgun. Led the eagles. Bring six throw it, right? Over the top of the zone. See again can outrace pursued Douglas. He came to the first down marker, right? Like, that's that's going to be very easy for yards. You saw them take that again. I think it's the Panthers. Great deal on the new any man of the Panthers falls infrequent. And then against the the Steelers. They were getting mad coverage for linebackers. Michael Thomas Steelers include they were doing, but that's a different matter entirely. So I think those will be the two ways that you see Ted gain get used his depth of target is gonna be inflated because he's gonna get those super downfield shots, but mostly it's create space for enemy across and then use a shallow crosser yet sort of a guy that was my read. What did you think? I mean right out of the gate. I think it was pretty obvious what they wanted to do with gin and they wanted to get downfield shots the first half of the season this team ranked in towards the bottom of the league in deep ball frequency. But I mean, my notes pretty much line up with what you're. Saying the I had was three men vertical route combinations. And one of those guys is coming underneath those routes, and what they like to do at to those guys is stack those releases in them. Get one in breaking get one outbreaking is. So they're definitely looking for to either clear stuff out or they're making him a primary target whether it be on a switch vertical release or on the backside. Like you said with vertical route they wanna be a vertical team. They can't take the stuff underneath that. If the vertical shot, isn't there? But we're seeing that gin dynamic adds a little bit more to that deep passing game. So they could be dangerous in that regard. So definitely good points on that they really wanted to take shots to gin in that Pittsburgh Steelers game. So he adds a new dynamic that we had not seen in the week eleven matchup a with them. Now, speaking of breeze and no disrespect to an all time. Great who I think still has the juice, but I kinda covered this on the cubes go show with marks go field coming out. Also have Seth galena as guest on guests on that one as well will be released later today but weeks one through twelve compared to weeks thirteen to seventeen paint. Very different pictures. Breeze. Went from league and completion percentage in QB rating singer drop of seven percent completions shaved off point two yards per attempt, which is massive and uneven bigger number his quarterback rating drops forty three points all the way down to eighty four point seven. That's not a dip in play. That's falling off a cliff in terms of officiency and affective nece. They went from fifth and explosive passing place to twenty first they've been made much less dangerous. But here's the question. The NFL season is a roller coaster. We all know that. It's I is that a short lived blip that area that I'm talking about for legend like breeze or Kenna continue not I don't know the answer to that. But I can tell you this Ben if you remember back in week two Ryan Fitzpatrick had a big day on us and got rid of the ball in lightning speed. And charted this to prove a point about how it wasn't a pass rush. That was the problem not even close to it was the coverage that let the eagles down. So I started every drop back and what I was looking for were dropped X. Ryan, it's. Patrick for the ball out within one hitch after the natural drop the number. I came to was seventy one percent. That's a lot. That's high. Now pro football focus charter the eagles with the press rate of thirty seven which is high top ten on the week. If you get that number every week your hand in is sex to a lot of guys in the front four. But it didn't matter because the pressure did it move. It's Patrick from the spot and the coverage didn't discourage him from getting rid of the ball at the top of his drop. He was free to wheel and deal and not take hits his quarterback rating. Under pressure was one hundred thirty six point four on the day. That was third best of the week fast forward week eleven chart of this drew Brees against the eagles under less pressure than what we saw. The eagles applied to Fitzpatrick with a patchwork secondary getting beat like a drum bentayga guests at what percentage of dropbacks breeze took that were delivered within one hitch of the top of his natural drop against the eagles week eleven sixty three. Seventy seven percent. That's more sixty. Christmas that's seven nine that's huge. That's enormous his quarterback rating under pressure. And this is this is kind of the point. I'm getting to hear when they did get pressure one. Oh, five point two again third-best on a day in. Here's the last example, bend Dallas against the saints week thirteen thirty seven percent Prussia rate on breeze. The exact same numbers that the eagles had against Patrick in week two and still got towards except the Cowboys moved breeze off the line that frequency of throwing from within one hitch of the drop dips to sixty percent and his quarterback rating was sixty nine. Now, why is that it's the coverage? This time of the year especially with Brady in the playoffs or really any quarterback. You're going to hear the talking point the pressure is the way to a quarterback's heart. If you wanna rip it out, and there is some truth to that pressured negatively impacts quarterback some more than others for sure you're going to see the magic number thrown around forty percent. Forty percent. Russia. Right. You're gonna hear it all the time. We heard it in the lead up to the Super Bowl last year. It has lazy pressure does not matter. If you do not have the coverage at the top of the route the eagles have to force breeze off his line with pressure. But just as important they have to force breeze off his first to reach not one to because you're dealing with a fast processor here. He can get to the second re by the top drop. You have to get him off those reach coverage. And I point this out to tackle a narrative that I believed to be garbage, which is part of my brand that I have cultivated here on BGN. But I also pointed out as something that gives some hope because this secondary is it the secondary from week eleven and the covers deployments, aren't this encouraged appointments as week to and and to me crucially, the defensive tackles are in the same as they were only eleven correct so interior pressure to move him off the line, boom lesson a brother can hack fresh the middle, and that's huge. Right. And so I I let let's breakdown what you said because that's stellar work. The. Reason that like I think that the Tampa Bay Fitzpatrick thing, I'll even apply so much more to what you're seeking John pain. If you remember back in week to MIR planned the buccaneers when they were like we're good being season. Todd Mahnken was calling plays off its coordinator and Malkin comes from the background of Oklahoma state. Southern miss pay in also has every aspects to his game at his patients strength as a coordinator has always been merging area ideas with the west coast offense. And so there's not as big a disparity between the bucks offense under monk in week two and the saints general offense this year as there is between just like two gentlemen. Offenses are actually like close in terms of how they'd like to be executed. You're like we bring it up shock it on center going to be more Chuck on the for the buck show whatever, but the the top of the drop hitch and fro spread Chablis spread because New Orleans to go condense multiple vertical route stems in the same area. There you go that that air raid style idea. That's those are very analogous between the two offenses and they're going to execute in similar ways. Now when you look at why there was the fall off for breeze in the last four games. He's played thirteen through six years. Three reasons that I think all kinda come together. Number one off the line is clearly quite beat up. Young office lives beat up. There's more pressure and pressure problem or any back to that. That's Philadelphia's going away number two teams began to key in on tendencies for the saints allow them to take away the intermediate. He wants the intermediate. He does not want deep. Don't take the cheese. He wants intermediate allow them to take that away to wall off to stay sticky with it in man coverage force Bruce to hold onto the ball for half second longer that brings him to his check down for quicker. Mike his his intended areas by next gen stats have dropped off significantly in these past few weeks three of the last four weeks. He's played have been three of his five lowest weeks in. Terms of intended area arts. So he so the depth of target is going down. And then three is just simply a guy who was on fathom ably accurate for the first two weeks of the season is starting to crash earth. You know, what I mean, just like a breeze who was by even his own standards. Having an ungodly season has begun to look more human like that's just you know, like the attrition of the season. Plus also regression to the mean like you just can't keep up seventy seven percent. Eight point eight yards per attempt. One hundred twenty seven point four quarterback rating. Not I don't care. That's inhuman. And it is the reason it doesn't happen every right? So I think those are the three things now you can't you know, we said like do we expect it to be a blip while if it is a blip? This is when it changes because he just had two weeks all three weeks. No two weeks off because the the week seventeen any of the by. That's a good opportunity to reset as good opportunity to come back out on the field. Kind of you know, new season playoffs. Whatever you can't really control if reassigned to go superhuman, right? That's like this. You know? It's that's the God, humid. He's an MVP candidate. What you can't control is going to be taking away the first reach that pressure. Rives number one number two is pressure. And as we discussed this saints passing attack wants to throw the football from under center, if they're if they're in shotgun. It's quick game. If they're in shotgun. It's double slant. If they're in shotgun, it's snag if they're in shotgun a smash seven of the weak side aids. Like everything we saw from Chicago's very spread heavy attack. Ryan's just gonna be you know, it can be a triangle read with two short routes one Intermedia route breezes deadly accurate. He's got a wicked quick release and the he nickel dime the shotgun. But that's not what they wanna do. Because they don't like to run the ball shotgun. This offense wants to run the ball. Can't run the football. Eagles running very good, Mike. It was really bad against the say to me eleven. Oh, yeah. One of the big reasons was because. You had fled for Cox TY McGill actually was playing in that game. Positive entry Trayvon Hester in Hester was playing Hesters playing saw lately has her wasn't playing solid in the beginning. Wouldn't even say has playing saw lately to me that's still do charitable. But whatever he's playing less snaps, and that means there's less bad snaps, which cool. How dare you slander Trayvon Hester on this show again, listen fingers, the fingers look at these failures. Listen, go ahead. There's a reason he's playing special teams like just say, I know anyway, the presence of TIMMY during logging out is gonna help number one. It's gonna take away the rushing attack the saints run in a ton of different ways on they liked to do a multitude of things in life too, though, the runs zone week with go unbalanced formations runs on week, by the way, which Philadelphia should frigging take that in a heartbeat by love that on the run g lead the run crack toss specially with with Alvin Kamara. They wanna get him out in space. We know this. But if Andrew's pecan. Go and Ryan ramczyk can't go which right now, you know, we're looking at a situation where max probably our best lineman is obviously healthy. But you've got the potential for Andrew's Pete who's currently says questionable. Let's play. Ryan. Ramczyk question Ron played on Bushrod questionable. Let's run Armstead questionable. Let's play if they can't get especially ramczyk and heat out there. They can't do as much of their polling as they want to because they do not have the athletes to continue to do it. Correct into. That's gonna force them to run significantly more up the middle of Ingram rather than their space plays with Kamara that was a problem for Philadelphia in the last game. When in this game, you'll be significantly improved interior of the line. I into that to go better for Philadelphia than it. Did that's gonna force the saints into longer passing down situations when they're in those is when they're going to go to their intermediate deep passing attack with custom under center comes under center, white tiller on the ball hunch mater center, and that means Brees is hard play action was putting his back to the defense. He's taking five or seven step drops. He's going to be deep in the pocket. Number one. That's Chris long. Chris long loves to go to the peak of the pocket enforce quarterbacks. Back up into the rush breezes. Not super Mobile's. Chris long nine techniques. Weird. Little two point stance. I don't really get right around the right tackle baby Franchuk's playing. Let's frigging go gas up Chris long around the outside. You get Michael Bennett. Timmy, Jernigan Fletcher Cox three primary to Russia's you Brandon Graham in there, and you leave somebody else in the outside. Whether that's you know, day on hall. I don't even care and you're able to get to breezes seven step drop your get his peak when he gets there. You force him up. You keep him out of throwing position this line will not hold up that long with the injuries occurred. It will not hold up that long, and you can get into your pressure. You can hit him on throws generate turnovers. You can get sacked. It's going to be a race to the peak of the pocket. I think it's a huge Chris long. I think the massive Chris Longo who's been a load acquire this year is Philadelphia's brand grandma go inside. Michael Bennett likes to go inside. Josh wet is injured durbar. That is injured Chris long as the best like outside track. Rusher of getting to the outside. Peak of the pocket you need on like Chris long third along these boot nine technique and race every single snap. And the interesting thing about that is the saints wanna line up with their full complement of weapons along the offense of line. You're gonna see left tackles run Armstead Andrews Pete at left guard center would be max under right garwood be Larry warford and Ryan ramczyk would be the right tackle in again. You're over dealing with the Wednesday report here. So this is going to be quickly outdated information is released today. But regardless every week, we take a peek at pro football focuses blocking advantage metrics. And according to them the saints have the worst matchup on the weekend by far in both run blocking and in pass blocking. And Ben my guys Andrews, Pete if I'm looking for somebody that's the weak point, whether he be at guard, and especially at tackle on that side with praying Graham. That's that's that's by guy. That's who. I'm trying to go after. So even when guys kick in Michael Bennett, you'll kick entered TIMMY Jernigan working against them. Join against been affective Jernigan has been special when he wins immediately. He can get bogged down a little bit. But when he it's that first step and he gets off. I'll put it this way Jernigan 's flexibility if is weaker than it was in the past. I don't think that's just confirmation by the fact that you would expect to do with the her and yet not be as bendy through the spy and like. I think it has also ability. I think that's legit. That's going to affect his ability to anchor in sit against the run. Right, right. Vegetated take on power from weird angles and to maintain his positioning. So he's we hear against the run, he's near liability territory at this time. But honestly, it's the run game, and you can fix it. I don't really go after. Watching loading NADA and Trayvon has thrown TY McGill. Bruce hacker whoever else been landed. Nice Cox pass rush watching Jernigan is like I think he's the best player of ever seen in my entire life. I'm John deers. I quickness is that much more magnified when you watch him juxtapose guys he uses his hands like actually like as weapons odds. It's it's extraordinary. It's a site of whole sublime joining outrageously joining his absolutely big piece, and we've been talking about this during the whole carousel just in terms of getting another body in the rotation needs to minimize bad reps for the other guys like everybody's fresher. When it comes to the fourth quarters. You're not taking plays off obviously is really struggled with fourth where a defense this year. Your passwords more active. Everybody's taking less snaps and joining enough himself as simply more dynamic rusher dynamic penetrative anything. Philadelphia's had deep interior penetration is going to be important because if our goal is to get resolve his spot and force him up into the pocket you need to maintain rush lane integrity. So as to ensure that breeze can't just hitch hitch that I take a free four yards in the middle. Just little scrambling slide or hang out there, which I think what you'll see Philadelphia do is they'll do what they typically do to three texts nine tax in engine choices wide nine. And then they'll just leave a linebacker in the middle often KOMO gray hill, if it's nickel which probably will be than it's can be Jordan Hicks. And what that allows you to do is number one as a wall off shallow crossers right away. Which is how breeze wants her the ball quickly. He won't shallow crossers. So you need to find a way to cover Alvin Kamara without using your linebacker. He's gonna stay in the middle which probably means from Jenkins, which probably means Alba Camara has good game. But we'll get there leaving your linebacker in the. Middle allows you to wall off a quick shallow. Crosser breeze can make that throw in. If he has to climb up max probably already slid to aside to help there's no longer tagging the linebacker night. Good green dog blitz. You've got a free opportunity to go up there and hippies because he's not making a linebacker miss. Let's talk about two key matchups in two key situations. Offense for defense. We're going to look at third down and red zone to highlight a couple points. So we can talk about mar we could talk about Michael palm whatnot the red zone for the saints rakes fourth in conversions in scoring touchdowns. When they get there. The eagles are the top rank is R. Yeah. But in the last three games tied for second on third down the saints ring six the eagles had the fifth best third down defense in the last three. Ben twenty two point five eight percent tops in the league fourth in turnover. Frequency the bears were five in six five of sixteen against them. This defense. Has been excellent. So who are they looking for on third down? I think it's obvious. It's Michael Thomas Xilin Kamara in the red zone. The number two and the number four targets in the red zone. League-wide Michael Thomas Alvin Kamara which is they have a fifty eight percent market share on the saints for red zone targets on third down. They have a forty six percent market. Share Alvin Kamara has eleven conversions twenty one of twenty seven hundred seventy yards. Michael Thomas has twenty three conversions that second in the league thirty thirty seven caught for three hundred forty one yards in the red zone. Michael Tom is second targets twenty six. Like I said twenty six targets twenty two catches. That's I in the league. Eighty four point six percent catch percentage in the red zone. Tie for second. With guys over ten targets seven touchdowns aside for fit Alvin Kamara in the red zone. Twenty five targets this fourth again. Twenty catches that second eighty percent catch percents three touchdowns. They're like read one and retu- like you have to be able to stop those guys. And we've talked. Out the shotgun. Offense is the quick game for the saints in the red zone. It's it's it's patently unfairly very year. Yeti? It's listen, we're gonna leave drew Brees giaga. We're gonna have three receivers over there to receive over here, you guess where the ball's gonna go. And then you see if you could beat it is you can't right because Brees has such a fast process in terms of like, you know, we talk about what release speed is released beat isn't like how quickly you publ. It's how quickly you decide to throw the football activate your process at how little you tip off your hand in that initial stage and released football. There's like four steps to it. Right and breys is just wicked. I mean, it's just it's it's veteran. It's polished. It's naturally gifted. It's everything it's a it's the perfect intersection of talent at mechanical work experience where he's just so quick in the ball when he's working short game. And then his accuracy is. Pinpoint we've said his struggle with actually a little bit in the last four weeks, but still we're talking about a guy who can absolutely thread a needle that you saw him. Do it against Phil about nine thousand times probably his most accurate game of the season. In terms of just man coverage have half a man, I'm gonna hit half a man just perfectly. So when you're in the red zone. It's simply we're gonna run curls. We're gonna run a space in concept. We're gonna make your corner here is going to open his hips to this crow route or is going to open his hips to this flare route, which everyone he doesn't open his hips to we're gonna thread the ball right there in Deir him to get back and make a play ninety nine corners can't do it. And that's why this red zone. Offense is very effective philosophies resolutions has been good, but it can be very hard to stop this red zone offense. Because it simply they're gonna put you in athlete on athlete situations, and they had the best ball distributor in the league. We talk about the eagles how they split up their field. They'll have zone beaters on one side. They'll have man beaters on the other side. So that saints will come out those own beaters. On the left side on the right side. You've got why Alvin Kamara releasing into a slob route that option route you've got Michael Thomas running at quarter out. It's a pain. It's annoying. It's annoying to deal with it such a dynamic offense. They do so many different things in the red zone. It's not just bring it tastes hill to and they'll do it different things. He'll throw pop dont even talking about taking us to talk about tastes healthy dynamic that he brings is a pain in the butt for any office. I don't care like people make fun of it. Because it's not that good. And he's not that good. And he doesn't bring NFL level running skills or passing skills. But he does just enough to be a pain in the butt for defensive coordinator. So it's going to make that point. He's not good. It's a pain in the butt. I spent three minutes figure out. How drew Brees threw the interception? He threw against the Steelers, and it wasn't him. King. You lies tasted hill. I hate it. Tastes hill so much. Okay. He's the worst that. Anyway, we talk about taking one defender and making him wrong. Yep. In regards to the eagles offense the saints red zone. Offense is taking. Defender making him wrong. They do it obviously like all through the field every team does. But when they get down into the short areas to let breeze distribute the ball quickly prevent pressure from arriving simplify the choices and exposed quick space with athletes. It's there's the corner. Ana make them wrong. There's the interior linebacker rights angle routes ladies have the slop row slot option. There's follow routes just take a guy put him in conflict make him look like an idiot. You sweetheart the good just got a message from somebody in. It says who wants to die in mobile, and it's a it's a thirty dollars. It's a keychain Breathalyzer at my friend, Bryce Rossler from that to say, I find a one guest it's Bryce will Mark sent the picture of the product, but Bryce giant din with weak and to save money and use the one in Mike's car, which is amazing. I don't have a Breathalyzer my car for the ADA. I defy the odds. Anyway, Ben sorry about that. Let's kit to some over unders here what we're not going to predict the gain yet. But right now the line that I'm seeing no free ads. The eagles are underdogs by seven and a half points the over under his fifty one. Let's call it twenty nine to twenty two somebody already did the math before the show. You could see me look over to the note that I was I also heard that there wasn't a six second vase while you did the mental Matt's. Yeah. Witty expose my process there. I'm I'm actually very good. I'm sure when the listeners heard you. Rattling off cash rates success rate total yardage output for Alvin Kamara Michael Thomas. They're like bikes probably this up in his head. Just doing the math man, it's zeroes in wines. Look, let's call it twenty nine to twenty two just for these purposes. So the twenty nine when obviously be the saints. And if there's any other points that you wanna hit on with the saints of offense, you can put it under this umbrella. But do you go over under on the Saint scoring twenty nine points in this divisional round playoff game? You ready for this is really hard go on the heart. Oh Benz confident. I know you're convert about this team right now. So I may have underestimated your hubris under say it gets louder for the people in the back under. There's one very very easy reason why under which is defense is don't give up forty eight points crawl their way back into the playoffs. Have a huge win come into New Orleans, and then give up forty points again as not going to happen. I just Shively. I I have spent seventeen eighteen long arduous weeks giving reasons for things and like I said as they beat the bears, I'm not bending this team anymore. It simply we're at a point where you hear the way that this team talks about the saints game. The offense is by seven point output defenses embarrassed by the forty eight point return, you've got more guys who are healthy. You've got a defense. That's been playing significantly better. Football in recent weeks, you wrench in how you mentioned how third over the past three weeks situation so much wrong. They can get off the field on third down. They can force field goal attempts in the red zone. Yeah. This is a team that in four last five weeks have been under twenty nine total points. Right. And I don't see this defense getting boat raced at all I said that I it would shock me a team that feels this underdog mentality so strongly, and feels this sort of, you know, spoiler sense. So so there's really wanna defend their championship. It's going to let the number one seed who came out with the whole two hundred twenty five thousand Lombardi trophy Bullock's who embarrassed them in week eleven the lowest point of their. Season run 'em up. Again. I I would be flabbergasted that'd be so out of character. What we've seen this team over the past two years. So now, I'm under twenty nine, and I I agree with some of that. And even like uncomfortable with throwing out the forty eight point performance from the saints because things have changed so much for the eagles defense and just for the team in general, the offense moving the ball, and in well, they're gonna move the ball better than they do in the first one we're gonna talk about that in the preview show. So that the fence will be exposed as much. But again, the personnel has changed the mentality of the team has changed. And I remember going into that game. And especially after the game just being disappointed because the team was fighting. We have seen this team fight a lot more the effort. Is there the mentality? Is there? The players have bought into the message that Doug Peterson has been giving them. They're now bucking against the media. They're an underdog again, they they know what they're they're to do. They're not gonna get embarrassed again, in my opinion. So I'm with you. And I think I'm gonna go under. So let's go under on twenty nine points there. We'll see. What we predict for the eagles offense against the saints defense on the next show here on the kissed and so like show Benny any other points. You wanna hit before you say goodbye, Genta listeners. Go ahead. Say the thing where if there's a fullback off said the running power. No, what's that out of as their twenty one personnel. And they've got that little white fullback in there. What's his name Zach line? Zach line off said the running power, especially if they motioned into it like if they bring zoom motion into the formation of doing that he run with Dave run with her fullback to. It's like y'all just do everything you pass Tatum hill, you're wrong with your full bear. Murrow there yet it's hard to prepare for they have so many different personal groupings. They're really diverse team when it comes to that. If it's metal the field close than breezes throwing the white cross. That's but they're gonna see a lot of middle of the field close from this eagles defence they run it through a top-five frequency in the league. We'll see if that changes it's annoying because you luck it y cross for smell field close in your like this shouldn't hit because there's a safety right in the middle of the field. And that's where the tight end are slightly running promise breeze. We'll just wait until he clears that guy. Yeah. So that wherever breeze puts the football, he put it. So that the the cross or is between the safety in football. And then it protects it from picks, whereas middle fueled open wall might look open initially the open-field safety has an angled affect the football. And so if the feel if as seasonal clothes at this nap, and he knows he has like Ross he will he does not care the linebackers. We'll do heels put it directly on top of which is a maze ING because people don't have that level of accuracy. Okay. That's all my fund notes. Oh, no one more. If it's twenty to twenty two percent gonna run the football. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Yeah. I have I hope you have all my film notes. And then I was like. Blau plane, we'll have a whole paragraph and then like have a line with no time where I'll just bold, and I'll just write a sentence. Go very bold claim, and those are the ones that I scroll through for this. It's like ninety percent of the my say during the show because they matter. But then there are these claims don't even remember making that are just sitting there. So I just read them out at the end of the show. And if they hold true sweet, that's funny. 'cause that's kinda how I do. My Scott evaluations, all go through in all have like, I don't know fifty lines of notes and like every six or seven line. All right. Like, a definitive statement about like a certain quality. And then we'll see if it holds up over time in your doing that. That's that's I'll be like it'll make the first half of a game. And I'll have a node. That's like I like the Texans. I think added note where I was like off. It's thirteen percent of the running the football hundred percent of the time. I had watched like twenties. Nasa the offense. But then question more, let me dial back to this. This holds up 'cause you see a trend. 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The Kist & Solak Show #72: Film & iTunes Review

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The Kist & Solak Show #72: Film & iTunes Review

"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Michael kissed Benjamin, so lag. It's the kissed Solex show presented by SP nation and bleeding nation. You are flying high on the kissed and Solex show. This is episode seventy-two. Brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green nation. I am your post Michael kissed. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. That's K I S T as always joined by the best dog on co host in the game, Mr. eight year streak without a bad day. He is Benjamin. So like follow him on Twitter at Benjamin Solex, that's SOL, aka Ben, how're you doing brother, ma'am. I did. It'd be alive be hopefully podcast gonna be a sticker. There's better seventy twos. But if it's if it's a guy who's currently on the roster happy go for its habit. Big podcast. I could feel I can feel the pressure already. This is religion y'all Twenty-two show June bugs reviews today as well. Right. But we also wanted to we started recording in the middle of our pre show chat because Mike was going to tell me that he took the five thirty personality tests, which is weird thing with the radar charts. And I wanted I don't want the Allen the answers to be cath. On the internet forever. So Michael, even though you have the ability to take all the sound post. Anyway, now share with me what visor aid things about your personality. So one of the major takeaways for me in one of the funniest ones was the agreeable trait. And they had these agreeable this sub traits. So it's a triangle at the top of triangles compassion on the bottom left is respectfulness. And on the bottom right is trust link. Rea- words that count to mind when I think of my best those three exactly now respectfulness escorted fifty that solid. Right. So out of a hundred out of a hundred nice. It's a nice little medium area. It's close to the average issue. I guess compassion at twenty five that ain't great now trust trust zero. It is that is most sliver shocking to me. If you'd have asked me to guess, which the three would score the highest. I would've said trust. I respect the fact that I don't trust you, right? Like this is about whether or not you trust people not about your trustworthiness. I experienced was very, trustworthy, but perhaps urine experience anybody else's, trustworthy, which I mean, let's be real Mike. I'm constantly one whole minute late to the podcast. So no wonder you have such a a harsh and critical view on the people the world in one of the quotes in here. That kills me the first quote about it because it gives a whole paragraph that describes her personality how they see it. So says low agreeable nece in quote is quote, if life seems a little unfair. That's because it sort of is to you personally, unquote. Good hit me with both barrels. Ben, we got that out of the way. You gotta take that test. We got to see which parts of your personality are a little bit psycho like mine. So I can feel better. I feel like yours are just going to be like awesome. And it's gonna make me feel worse. Now. I feel like I think I'll be okay and compassion. Trust might get dicey. Depends. I can be very like just like everybody sucks, but respect now that that's the thing. We're gonna find some trouble there. I think I tend to tend to be a little bit too to a holding people in too high of esteem. So we'll see what happens. I'm very curious because your results I expect it's I'll have to show the other ones to maybe we'll talk about about another time. But this is going to be the old twenty to review show. We're gonna do a small portion of that not as intensive as we usually do we were supposed to do it on the last show Gibson Solex shows seventy one, but we ended up talking about Nick foles his future. And then we started power ranking the draft needs for the eagles in that kind of gut on a hand 'cause we're big drought heads. So that's what happens when that happens, by the way, Ben got to see all your boys from the draft network. John Leger Kyle crabs Joel Merino Trevor sick all them down there at shrine week. We have breakfast at an I hop. It was nice and pleasant. We joked we laughed. We had a good time. I'm excited for what you guys are doing over at the draft network. Is there anything that you can because I know a little bit. Is there anything that you can kinda give listeners a peek into what they can expect from the draft network is we're gonna have you who work for them? But also guys like ledger crabs Marino whatnot on this show with us as we prepare for the draft as well. So it'll be a nice little peek into what they have offer. Yeah. The draft number a very exciting time because it has draft season. Which means we are we're in the throes of kind of our heyday are hot season, which is great. And so currently on the site what you'll see is you'll have updated big boards. I'm at a top one hundred of the. Chiefs. The fuck the full timers are at top one. Fifties. You also find the player database, which is a database of every potential draft eligible player in the entire world, which is like six thousand people from you know, FBI FCS football, but also more specifically there's gonna be our consensus top big boy, which has all the names linked all the scouting report. So if you want to get a feel for who's good in this class, who's got good film was gonna go high and you go check out the database. You not only be able to see the names see who it is also be able to click on their scouting report. See what they're strong at see what they're weak at a node kind of project them in see what what system they fit the best in how they're going to impact the team. You're also gonna find like a full week of senior bowl coverage, including our live shows immediately after suitable practices, which will be streaming on twitch on periscope on Twitter. And so if you follow us on twitch the draft network on Twitter at draft network LLC, you'll be able to see our media senior bowl reaction all the posted come from that. And then in February of face to gets launched which phase to his his much, more under rafts. Now, I think he has. Learn more about face to a little bit over a week. Can I tell you do they give you a little sneak peek them, I got a little sneak peek them at phase two, and I am very very excited about it. And I wait to to use it and to publish content around it like it's going to be amazing in. It's not just revise like me. And you is for you as well gentle listeners, you are going to love is. It's it's incredible. It's gonna blow your mind but Bengo head. Yeah. Now face to has some some app features has some interactive user interfaces opportunity to prepare for the draft just as a regular fan away. You simply never have before Rivera excited of what's coming down the mountain. That'll be a it will announce an official launch date like I said about a week or so. But if you're if you're watch every around during February getting ready for the combine, then you will miss anything. So yeah, if you follow at Dr nor galaxy on Twitter the draft. No, we're going to scream at the draft on you'll never miss a beat. But. We've we've enrolling for five six months now, you know, what I mean like it's always draft season. It's just this this time you can put things in second year. So yeah, man. I'm palm senior we to be a ton of fun of jobs. You got to be with everybody on trying week. I've been up here going to class and doing other pointless waste of time zone excited. The take a week off from class and be down a mobile will. I'm glad we can spend time together right here. Also next week in mobile for the senior bowl where both and you will be covering it. So again, the topics for today's show we're going to do some light all twenty two film review of the divisional round loss to the saints where the eagles were eliminated from the playoffs. Unfortunately, we're also going to get into into some items reviews gonna read some of the real funny ones, we told you guys that we would do this. We also ask for some mean tweets. So we might throw some some of those out there as well. People weren't as same. We say we asked mean to specify what you mean. Exactly as a mean tweets and tagged me in the tweet. Don't worry. I'll do it for you. That's what you did. But people weren't as mean as I thought they as I thought they would be at that. They would be coming out in droves to make fun of you. And it just it didn't pay out that way. But we got some good ones. Anyway. So it's okay. That's for later. Let's finally get into this all twenty two before we get distracted in some twenty minutes. Sidebar yet. Again, I want to start with the quarterback play from Nick foles looking at the day from Nick foles against the saints, which is possibly and very likely his last day wearing an eagles uniform. I'll just throw some numbers out there in the we can kinda talk about some individual throws every one but under pressure thirty two percent of the time. So a little high not game breaking but that's under steady. Fire under pressure was five or ten per seventy six yards and touchdown there. So one hundred seventy one hundred seven point nine quarterback rating. So the pressure really didn't rattle holes too much in the box score. And when it really worked for foles was play action, which they kicked up a notch. Thirty six percent of his drawbacks were play action concepts and. These stats Ben with play action. Check this out in. You'll see the difference. We play action nine for eleven one hundred five yards nine point five yards per templates. Very high my touchdown one. Thirty six point seven quarterback rating with outplay action nine for twenty ninety six yards. Four point eight yards per attempt to interceptions might not be as good massive difference there. And when you hear that you might think that they should have ran more play action. But they already ran it. As such a high rate is supposed to compared to the rest of the season that I really wouldn't buy that on. I also think it has to do with his time to throw being a little bit higher this week than it has been since he took over as starter later in the year two point four five seconds time to throw which is still the second quickest time throw on the week just about I want to say about point two point two five higher than it has been recently. I mean, the main thing in this one for maybe I am beyond all the analytics he was just inaccurate for a good portion of the day, really bad placement. Lot of balls under through some that we can talk about. And I want to talk about the interception, but he was off for the better. Out of this game. And I saw the I saw the tweet the other day talking about this. I think it was Patrick claybon of NFL network where he said quote soon we'll have dropped coms like this floor knit foles ceiling Nichols. Listen. I did the I have no idea. Where means come from can't tell you what it is. But the one where is the guy he's he's animated figure. He's sweating profusely in. There's two buttons in front of him in you change, the labels on the buttons are the best. It's the best joke of ever made in my life is just labeled the guy Nick foles. I'm one of the planes. Really good throw a the other bun really bad throw. And he's just there. Sweating trying to right which button to press 'cause there's no in between. It's just like. Wow. That broken out of more perfectly placed or while. They never had a chance to catch that football is one of the do as look we got yelled at by the foles faction. That's what I'm calling them now for calling him inconsistent. But that's that's the thing. You can't really yell about that. When he's playing will for such a small stretch when we know that one of these games could very well be right around the corner. Hell one of these throws could be right around the corner in that game where he's playing really well that's just kind of like what foles is in. We saw a ton of that this gain of saints, and we can talk about their coverage and whatnot. I thought they did a really good job, really, sticky and coverage and all that stuff. And there was some tight throws that had to be made. They just weren't made in a lot of these cases, Ben. And so I think when you luck and we're talking about the precious. Let's have the play action split what this saints rail to do most effectively in terms of generating pressure on Nick foles, and that be able to throw him off when you go into the tape. I think it's not that they were blitzing and they weren't. Yeah. Third. I think our only charted one or two blitzes. I think some more early down stuff, but definitely not eight day blitz earlier in the game, and they stepped away from it. Which was the wrecked in game adjustment. Hats off the DEM sound defense coordinator for doing it blitzing Kohl's is a bad idea. And the reason but falls about it because he's a smart. Quarterback who very good pre snapping knows. Whereas hots are like the number. One example is the touchdown to Jordan Mathews where playside was the other side of the field play. They're running little, you know, basic levels like triangle reach the ones that feel like too short breaking in cuts one Intermedia breaking in cut run levels. It was to look before the snap at the snap. The saints rotate down from two high into one high into single high. So there's a change posts nap because they're bringing five until they're bringing the safety down into the middle of the field. It's cover one man once foles he'd play action once he looks up. He sees the saints to hide a one high. He knows he's gonna have outside leverage single coverage on that deep post, and you even had a shorter throw again outside breaking underneath that post again away from the playside place. I was levels concept over there beating too high coverage will this change the one high foles nose to come to the other side and just throw faith row? That's that's a one on one. And you expect Jordan Mathews to be PJ Williams and foles degrade ball out there again hit the really good throw button. And it's touchdown, right? It's fantastic throat perfect process. And that's where you know, foles is successful in terms of when you blitz him. You're not going to be able to play much coverage on the back end that requires a lot of post nap processing, you're allowing throws the full foles to throw hot. And that's the thing which is the most effective. That's he's very strong. You can run like, you know, zone blitzes go like three hundred three high. If you want to on. But like I said in the in the Brigham show the saints don't really do that when they blitzed the saints go to cover one man to go to cover zero. So stepping away from the blitz and running far more coverages up near the line of scrimmage. Whether safeties were close to the line of scrimmage in the linebackers were buzzing quickly to the flats prevented foles from getting the ball out quickly. And I think that's where pressure gets involved. That's because you're able to take away. What foles wants to do pre snap? That's where you're able to. Fluster him. Even if you're not getting a great pressure. Moving him off his spot Vos is not a good post nap processor. So the greatest pressure. You can put on him is forced him to make decisions after the snap. And that you saw foles with with some poor throws forcing the ball into coverage where it wasn't necessarily the best choice. And that's that's when you have him constantly going beyond the Stick's kind of going to his I read instead of just kind of like facilitating into space like a point guard where we typically see him. Do. Let's go to turn your pages to second quarter thirteen forty five in the game. This is the interceptions. Zakar? I wanna talk about this kinda hits on some of the points that you were talking about Reese nap. But so what they have for the eagles is a condensed alignment to receiver set. They've got the double wing tight ends. They're on opposite side of the size of the formation of this is eventually gonna go to urge out and up type deal. Pre snap. This saints are showing single high safety right before the snap. You see them starts rotate into to hide this is based on the leverage in what I can tell. This covered two-zone. I really basic stuff. Right. So hurts releases. Marshon Lattimore Chuck's Matthews to the inside in fades off to earth's who was breaking out. So urge collisions him at the top about ten to twelve yards past the line of scrimmage, and then shoots up now with those two high safeties that means that Turkey hole right between the corner and safety is where the throw needs to be needs to be over that corner. But what Lattimore does. And this is something that the eagles corners were not very good at doing was Lattimore didn't care about anything coming underneath because he knew he had extra coverage because the saints dropped an extra guy into coverage. They only rush three. So they have an additional underneath zone. So they can spread that drawn out more draw. The thing about the thing about dry betas this. I'm sure the drop eight checks like exist. I'm sure like they know what to do but drop Asia's to coverage where like for us for me. There's so little data on draw eight that I can't tell you what. The procedures when when you drop like what I know is. Yeah. Absolutely. You're bringing up in terms of Lattimore knows he can fly deep on he get support there. She has an extra underneath defender. But like the late in Vander as she interception was against drop eight that was Carson Wentz one on the nipples interceptions that Cunningham's against rob eight. When teams are dropping defense. Tackle the struggle for the eagles defense or for the eagles off into mean. Eagles office. I pulled a kissed. Sorry. So yeah, what you see Lattimore is able to drop so full drops back and just he has to moving the pocket slightly. And it's just a big underthrown. It's it's it's seven yards underthrown because Lattimore is able to drop underneath he's able to go up and make that play and that's a tough play for urge to because he has number one at that point when he's running up field. It's really hard to just point your foot and go up and get it like there's a year down process to that. That's Aker task to go through. So it's hard for him to really come back in impact the catch point. But he goes up. Lattimore Lattimore just makes great play. So great play call that really confuse the eagles bathrobe by foles fantastic play by Marshall Lattimore. So that's kind of what we saw in the passing any other passing game notes that you wanted to have before we started the move on. And it's condensed all twenty two view. I think when it comes to this like the simple reality. It was it was a bad ball should be six. In the same. And in the same way that drew Brees interception. Opening play the game should have been six the ship and six and that would put Philadelphia at this point. I believe up twenty one to nothing with a little bit with a little bit into the second quarter. And we said like, you know, I got I remember in the game. I got yelled at because I said like right now up fourteen nothing, you know, first half your number one. Rog is not running the score up. It's ball control. The last thing you wanna do on this drive is turn the ball over lasting. You wanna do is give a spark and little did. We know that turnover return to to fourth down conversions one of the fake punt the other on the goal line and the saints will walkway was seven on one ended up being a huge dry for them. I mean this this play right here killed all Philadelphia's momentum, and it was simply a bad throw. Right. And what's curious is you can go back to a game that I believe was like fourteen. Nothing or twenty one seven or something against the saints. And we've eleven where Philadelphia really needed again healing going on offense. It was a different situation. But basically Carson Wentz took so much air out of Philadelphia sales in New Orleans because if you really bad pick Marshon Lattimore play making corner, he can he change the game like that. But it just goes to show you the impact I think turnovers have on a game. Like like after that pig. Marshon Lattimore the saints ran away with week eleven and they did the same thing in the division around as well. And even if the thing is thrown like, not a head of urged store. He's just running with it. I mean, he comes down with that ball the twenty yard line. You looking at a three score lead at the very worst. Unless you know, dick Elliott comes out there in one. So yeah. Big time minutes interesting because usually fulls I understand why he put this thing on rope. Because he's still worried about the hash safety like I get that. But hash say hang in the floor away. He's taking the post from tape, which is what you want. This play to do on design. Now, it's Tampa to drop because the dropping eight like that that middle getting deepen the whole. So I guess you're worried about him continuing to carry tables allows the safety to come off the hash and get involved with wrote a usually you see fulls put air under this thing. Usually he's pulling that thing with a lot of a lot of touch on it. He's is a rifle thing in there. That's probably why it came short as not as typical fro arm strength. Like that is not his it's he's like, okay. But it's not a strength. So I was just looking up some eagles personnel numbers while we were talking there and twenty eight percent twelve personnel in a single solitary play. With three tight end sets from the eagles on the day. We expected a lot of eleven that's what we got those three wide receiver sets as opposed to tight ends. That's what we got in his game. We figured it would be more effective in. It was fifty percent success rate from the past end from the run from eleven personnel much worse numbers from twelve personnel. They weren't just they just weren't able to run affectively from twelve which we knew they would struggle. Pound the rock against this third ranked Devia way rush defense, but that would have helped keep the offense a head of the chains. Keep them on the field. Not have that time of possession turned so poorly, you know, out of their favor, I'm assuming despite the low point total that you'd like them following our recommendation in terms of the groups that they used or after having viewed the film, have you changed your mind. Yeah. I would like to see more twelve which you know, shocking. How much maybe like five to ten percent. Like, maybe like, yeah. I'll put it this way. I would've liked to seen. I was with the amount of eleven they opened with by the time we got to court or four, and we we haven't needed desperately move the football. I would have been cooler seen some more twelve personnel. Obviously, you kind of lose the threat a little bit. You're going to run out of it. Which is one of the strengths of told personnel kind of forcing base defense. Because teams believe you could be running the football out of twelve makes more sense to blockers in that regard. But I would like to see a little more of it because it had been the most effective package, and it's. What they have been successful in with Nick foles over recent weeks. So kind of like all right? There's a doer die drivers go back towards been good for us, you know, for the past month or so on really they stayed with eleven which started out hot in that. Obviously had like six straight drives Philip he was able to score. I can't complain about it too much. Because again to me this was a game where poor execution from the quarterback position is what put them down what was killing the offense. And then like, you know, a really untimely mistake from atop wide receiver. Who's the man, you know, really put the nail in the coffin to me. There's a lot you this. This reminds me of those middle early middle the year games where people really mad at Peterson. And it was like listen to people were just making throws making blocks. This one problem, you know, likely you could always nitpick on personnel designs in whatever. Like, I was calling for like a little like inside screen like one of those things that worked so well for them recently, they run that. I mean, okay, but again, alshon Jeffery that can catch the passive Naples able to hit. On that third down able to hit alshon Jeffery a little better on the on the von bell. Switch route like, you know, work with a little more Greece. So I it's tricky turn your page to quarter four twelve thirty five left its first in ten we kind of touched on this in the last show. But I kinda wanted to go over it again here. I was this Brad I'm getting eaten alive. Yeah. Ben, this was unquestionably. The worst game I've ever seen from nudge Rodman eagles uniform. And this is just one example and people are saying this is a hold, and I just have no interest in gifting flag. When a dude got blown up. This is a thirty six yard run. From Mark Ingram saints lead with a fullback sack line. Brought him steps up and just gets on early destroyed. In fact, he is blown up so bad. Not only is his gap vacated, but he gets piled driven into the gap of anti Maddox was trying to fill the affectively taking both of them out of the place. Allying gets two for one here. So there's just nobody there and it's in its foot race, which I mean, thankfully Ingram, isn't that fast? And crayon LeBlanc is able to track him down. From behind to save it but front the back as you say, bent stem to stern I could not have this like the Brad's in tire performance any less. I wonder what the butterfly effect would have been if his pass coverage snaps of which there were forty were swapped with Jordan Hicks who only had seventeen. I I like Brad some bad place. Third. Sixteen was a bad play. I don't think this was the worst play needles uniform. I doubt when I mean, what can you think of one because what Tampa Bay head? But yeah, he's had some rough games this year, yet better games last year is up and down gives to me. I simply New Orleans putting a the coverage linebacker into conflict with Alvin Kamara in marketing like this happens every linebacker placed Orleans. He wanted me. Yeah. He was like exposing coverage. I haven't met a linebacker who wasn't exposing coverage. They have oven. Kamara running out of the backfield. It's obnoxious this place specifically, I'm sorry. But if Trayvon Hester frigging anchor against the double teams, not a problem. Let's watch history. Here. I'm hitting play. He's got the double. Right. Here's the thing. Don't fight to men. Get one guy. Get off one guy like he's trying to fight both guys here at least. That's what my eyes right initial byu. So those what we're talking about this is this a fantastic teaching table, how to take doubles. If you do have game pass or like how not to like what you should do if you do have game pass. Again. This is twelve thirty five quarter four trailer has the three playside. And now he's gonna he's gonna get what looks like inside zone action away both his guard, which is his visual key and his tackle. Which is pressure key take steps to his right? You know away from the side of the ball. He's aligned looks like it looks like it could be inside zones disease expecting a double team as visual key in pressure key. You're looking through the guard into the backfield when lined up as the three decks your visual key, how he moves. You're watching him is gonna impact what you do if he comes toward you are you've got to maintain leverage in the Big Apple zone to he's going away from you are you on a collision him don't a free release up to the second level zone away. Right. You want? To make sure you create some traffic on the back side. You also have your pressure key. Which is your is the tackle. You're not looking at him. But you can feel him on your left side coming from your other side. And if he comes towards, you will, you know, you're expecting a double team, you know, if he comes to down block you and garso's the poll it's run outside you've to go, replace a gap. Go get outside that tackle you're reading those two players. And when they both give you those zone step you step into the app as he does. And then as they go to double team, you contact sure you contact the guard, you get your shoulder into the tackle. And you drop your hips and drop your pads you get low. So as to not be moved off that spun you hold that point of attack. So that when Nigel Brad comes up to Philly, the fullback, he only has to fill against one shoulder of the fullback, right? Like as this fullback comes up comes right at Brad, m the gap is pretty big, and if is coming to fill the the new Sieg app and Radames gonna come fill the new big app because the fullback comes into the space. He adds a new. Gap, right. We will see gap when the fullback gets inserted. There's two sides to the fullback left shoulder, racial. So he's adding a new gap. You know what I'm saying? And so brand would come up and fill the new gap and manage to fill the new C gap. But as Hester tries to anchor is this double team is hips are up and his shoulders are up and it lets the right tackle get controlled him. Ryan ramczyk. And when he does that he's able to turn Hester out of the gap. He's able to really generally displacement. And now there's a big ole began a big gap and bradtha fuels the responsibility to take this block head on instead of taking it just on a shoulder taking half a man, just one children, leaving one shoulder clean. And when he does that Zach line puts him into kingdom come random is not in a position of strength. Right. If you like brands trying to get back into the gap, but she doesn't have to should know Maddox as their his mistake. But the amount of space that has ter- loses on the double team as well puts Brad into a state of conflict, and that's why run fits or. So we talked about run fit you run as a unit you run fit as a everybody responsible for their gaffe. Hester gets not like you said. It's not gonna Matic's Hester gets knocked in Jordan heck's is trying to come support the playside takes trying to work back from the weak side. Right Haixia get over there because has gone driven back into him. And Hicks makes a diving attempt fails, you know, I think if anyone gets held might be Hicks there. Right. Yeah. Right. So there's a situation where like they're running like I. Oh, right. This is just this is just take a look at this watch watch the feet of the guys I wanted to ask you this. As as I'm watching like watch this center and the left guard the left guard takes insights is this do. Oh, this might be due. Oh, I don't think it's duo. And the reason I don't think it's duo is. Because typically you have to run duo out of two tight end sets too tight ends to the side. Here's your what you'd wanna get. You get the the outward is what if you have a tight end and fullback, right? So you had that's what I'm saying. You have the actor to that side. But what you're what you're really seeing here is in my opinion, which maybe you're calling this fullback due out. Like, I've never seen two teams use fullbacks. Really testify here. I don't think I've ever seen fullback do out there. But yet it's interesting you're seeing to single blocks between tight end fullback on the playside, which typically do you see one? And then the two double teams one double here is more so backside at the same time. Absolutely. Those two double teams on the on the one tech in the three tech or very dual looking and duo ask to me. This is just an ice. Oh play. Thank on duo. You typically stayed longer on your double teams, and you let like Jordan Exum outcome Jenkins, the linebackers, quote unquote who are coming up. You let them read and you see them gal dumpings pretty quick. So to me, this is just eyeso-. But actually there's there's similar similar towns here regardless it's a it's a well drawn play. But like, this is just goes to show you this quick hitting play Ingram straight up the guy. He's coming straight for the big gap right off, the fullbacks buzz his immediate you need to be able to hold the point of attack. Shalon Hester does not do. So and it puts every supporting cast run fit behind him in a little bit trickier situation. The whole is bigger for Brown to handle it's bigger for. Demands handle more traffic for Jordan heck's to get through. Ingram's got good enough, contact balanced. Good enough, I to get to the third level. And then, you know, Corey Graham gets blocked by two guys any other players that you wanted to touch on C were again. Running late into a topic. Because that's what we do. We get. We get stuck on one play. There's so many different things. And this is kind of like you can't just watch film and go play to play to play to play to play. You really gotta like take everything in as you go through it to understand all the different nuances because I didn't notice pastor the first time that I watch is. That's a good point by then we start talking about is a duo is it is, oh, you know, all these are and you start to that's when you start pulling up different video clips and film, breakdowns and all this stuff. And that's how you really learn the game. Ben any other thing that you wanted to talk about in this game from all twenty two review before we get to some of these items reviews that we love so much last. They are ramping offense. The side of the football is having watched the film, I can confirm that in no way, shape or form was like a panting. Doubled over sweating L. Sean Jeffrey frantically hustling some line of scrimmage before the interception. He's just standing. Like a regular power should make right now. Foles is late to the slant. Now, watch what happens to to to to jeopardy's hands. He runs this. He's expecting. He puts his hands up. Yeah. As he puts his hands down. That's when the ball comes. So he's got a shoot his ends backup which right which which which on the broadcast. I was like it feels that. He's looking for it. And what you see is falls res the drop that middle linebacker. He's got a sale concept to the play side of slant. Flat to the backside and that middle mbacke drops towards the slant flat. Which usually is okay. We're throwing the sale route throw in that idea over there. But also as a ton of depth, and so L Shawn's able to get like a lot of cushion in front of him. Right. There's a lot of space. And so there's hesitation for foles because typically that that linebacker open is don't throw slant flat. But also like he got a lot of depth because they're worried about the deep shot. Probably the more worried about the outside boundary. So yeah. Ball's late foles takes extra. You can see him taking a little of bunny hop in. Pocket ball's late, which probably contributes to the drop slightly. Also, it's usually a catchall Sean makes that is what most contributes to the drop. But anyway, anybody who like, you know, again, there's no reason to go run a play your have to. But I don't think it was a problem. I think there's a ball was late. And it was a catch out on usually makes and stuff goes wrong. Again, I thought this was a play that they were running beforehand was rolls. The the run that was a kill. They had. They had both plays in there. He could passed or runs. They weren't running to get to the two minute. Warning. Like that was the sole intent of that run. They saw box numbers. They might what they saw they killed it to a run. That's the only reason it was a run this like the eagles you all the time. So they weren't trying to get down to the two minute wearing they definitely weren't rushing up because the play went nowhere you also Jeffrey Lucas has to walk back five steps to where he was. And then twenty seconds later, the Bala snap like it's the most calm no-huddle that you're going to see. And plus I mean, dealing with the crack ribs and credit to alshon because something that. Noticed in watching the game again from the film the first two catches like the big catches that Alcyone has he immediately taps out and ghosts island. You can tell like he's in in pay. Does that like not like one of trying to say here? He does that like sometimes like that's the thing that he's done before. I don't I don't disagree like you Intel. He's like he's beat up like you not attrition of the season for sure, but he often does that where he gets a big catching mealy watch over the sideline. He's like is picked up thirty yards under Gatorade. Like this Ben. So that's going to do it for the the all twenty two film review here with these saints in the eagles will get to these promised long promise, I tunes reviews that you guys have written. Ben is there anyone that stands out the one the one that I love was about you the person that saw you man ring J K five stars. Interesting topic is Ben is somewhat squarely in real life. Quote, Ben, I was living in Chicago right by you. I saw you while I was listening to you yelling on the pod. And for a moment. I thought about running up to you to say hi until I realized I would look Razi. You guys though, a great job so much love. Okay. I love this at anytime. If you seem he come up, visit highs like you are crazy. Look like a person who recognize another person's Z here. Okay. So way way back found it. Okay. The vest period. Five stars from echo derelict. I once stood next Nick foles at one of those urinal troughs in his piece fell out made a crisp loose aound only bar of gold or cinderblock hitting the ocean. From a great height would make also I can only make love when the sound of Brandon gallons voice and come compasses me. My wife hates it. But it's the only way I can maintain my Phillies special. So she lets me wear headphones. Oh, yeah. This podcast is good one out of one listeners found this review help. I love that. He calls. It his Phillies special. Yeah. Let's do it. Also, like, a brick of gold or cinderblock to things that are like equally valuable. I like this somebody created in IT tunes account with Yemen kissed and so lack rules with a bunch of misspelt the name of the show list and solar. Five stars. I am a su- loyal listener. And I'm always excited when you guys drop a new episode, you guys give the most informative football podcast and celek is hyper and funny. Keep up the good work. I feel like even when now people try to say nice things about me. Like always, hyper funny. Like those words I used to describe squirrels like this. This is a problem. We gotta get new music for the for the show the offseason. I feel like there's a when I mix this show. I added a show. It'll be thing. I do at some point. I will choose the music in. It will be a it will be a slat. It will be a banger. What's the thing is lapsed? That's cool kids say notice, I got it. Let's see. All right. Let's find all the different things that people say that sucks. A could be like oh to podcasts. Five star Boston. Bob level. I was bumping into Massachusetts. Oscar to bet is a little squeaky. But that's because he is still a punk kid lull. But as punk kid impressive, knowledge wise. Yeah. Thank you J P H one fifty amazing five stores. I have a crush on Benjamin. So lack Michael kissed too isn't too bad either to where are the why. Where was the game told me to always be sick? Because my voice sounds better. When I'm sick really that one. There's so many reviews that boy drizze finally new content five stars long Bill always got show appreciation to the silent. Assassin gay new episode? Don't know what that is that it did not new continent was podcast, real experts hockey guys Sino, Ben get sick every week which probably sounds harsh. I tend to be your voice sounds better. Who was it? Somebody on Twitter when we when we call it out for it told me how much my voice sucks, I gotta find Detroit definite Amana count. Let me let me pull that. We have always said like I've never. Once before my entire life like being a person who's like subconscious about how his voice sounds like voicemails, or whatever. And then I started this podcast with you with your ridiculously perfect voice. And now every time I listen to the podcast. I'm like, I hate I hate how my boy sounds. This was what it was. It was very funny. Matt Trowbridge at throw bridge. Ben's voice. Sounds exactly like his haircut looks which Sean. I don't know how they pictures are on the internet. I'm assuming he's talking about my old profile picture where I had the French crop in the bowtie which nary like, they was very booze. You looking photo. Is that the one that I that I took in Photoshop your hair onto my head's, yes, really made me really comfortable. Really? I was so okay. Seeing that is great Chris Gorbachev, Dan. I appreciate that. Chris at the at the underscores C train. I mean, it's hard to criticize you guys down. How many reads will it take for Michael kissed NFL to read that without flooding it? Well, I nailed that one. It's the offense in defense part that I always have trouble with in these Doug on previews. I know that sounds bad being a football podcast and I can't discern between offense and defense. But it happens. We switch up the order in which we do our preview shows, everyone leave me alone, everyone focused attention on how screwy Benneh's. We should we should bring this one here because he'll be upset if I don't bring it up. Also on the tweet. Beat that has more card against than friends. Yeah. Tweeted out by at Nico. So lack Nicklaus elect who's my wonderful young rather who I loved dearly who makes fun of the amount of cardigan own. I don't know why I think Harding is very comfortable. I think they're stylish and they make me cozy. And he finds to be he's lays is in highschool shoe near. He finds it to be a great point of humor. And so he decided to you know, send out his one tweet per month because Twitter's not cool for young kids anymore, by the way. Learn this to criticize me on my podcast. Thanks Niko Levy, buddy. So one of the ones I'll point out. I just wanna make a broad point here before we get out of here. One of the reviews and a lot of the reviews are like this. I I would spend a lot of time reading all these. But this is kind of the point of the show here by red cans, fantastic podcast five stars listening to these guys. Make you feel like you're in the film with a coach breaking down film. Extremely knowledgeable. Entertaining this podcasts. Nap flute must very hard corporates fans and the stuff that you guys have written. Eaten about the content that you like letting your voice be heard about re want the depth stuff. We want the analytics talk, we want the film talk. We wanna really understand the context of what's happening with our eagles seem beyond the box score beyond the win loss column. The amount of you that have chimed in and said that you really appreciate that aspect of this show. I mean, this is really the context show if you if you wanna know what's going on with the eagles just beyond the reactionary nonsense than we like to be your home for that. So we appreciate all of you chiming in with that. It makes us feel great this what we're here for. I mean, montage M O M OT an AG says these guys are young but clearly have done their homework on fundamental NFL com sets on offense defensible with listen. I'm not that young Benz the young one I'm old man starting to get grays on my beard. But yeah, Ben is incredibly emotional Benz football intelligence for how young he is is far. On mine and Ivan trying to learn this crap for years now. And he only gets better I try to get better along with them. So I don't get outpaced on these podcasts about some of these concepts. But we really appreciate you guys. 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I feel the world needs to see athletic profile number one not gonna happen. Number two. This is the. One hundred percent of the same thing that people then start tweeting mate because everybody gets so mad at me say Philadelphia, I say not the eagles. And I don't know. I don't get it. It's very cleaver. I'm talking about is eagles five chests. It's seems like people like from Philadelphia, which is weird that they don't say Philadelphia when they live in Philadelphia all of them say eagle, right? They just say eagles. I don't say Philadelphia. It's a long way to go to say eagles like really, right? So there's a couple of things number one. I think I really liked the word for the name the city Philadelphia. Number two. I know people say that I pronounce it with a little too much of a guttural reduction on the Philadelphia Philadelphia, which it's annoying Thirdly. When you're when you're counting five, let's when you're like a on the drum line for five years high school, you're counting five let's right like five. Like hits five hits a beat. Philadelphia has five syllables Philadelphia Philadelphia, Philadelphia Philadelphia. So like, I'm used to using the word, I think and also I don't care what I say. Like, I feel like we we we produced one episode of on eagle's like, hey, welcome to the world. It's like eagles kiss Benjamin Zolak. Eagles a great. And then our first response was like, yeah. Why does bend never say the eagles? I feel like it's been since day one. Ben his never once that in the podcast. So I'm definitely going to try. They probably not a an upcoming show. 'cause there won't be like, you know in the season. But next year tried to on whole show. I don't say Philadelphia. Once I say the eagles the whole time. This is what feels like I think there was a show that NIA new did because people were really amping up the discussion about it. And I think there was a show that we did a while ago where every time you every time you said Philadelphia, I just came in with a quick eagles, really. Multi show thing that was a good bit. But in the way. Yeah. Now, these these these reviews of tremendous, and we didn't read ten thousand of the ones that are really kind ones and the ones that remind us, you know, for us like not only do we try to produce this content of, but we also consume it, you know, like we because we're we're constantly working on. How does the offense win? How does the defense winn-? What can they be doing personnel wise book in the beginning, formation wise, what can statistics tell us about why the the office successful struggling defense acceptable struggling because that's how we work. That's also the conto that we consume. 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BGN Radio #106: Ranking the Eagles Top FA Needs

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BGN Radio #106: Ranking the Eagles Top FA Needs

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred and sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast. App listening to BGN written with Brandon. Lee County and Jimmy. Kimmel oh this is against you from philly voice dot com with me as always on. Espn Radio Episode Number One. Oh six I think is it. Breath of Linear Nation Brandon finally have a little morsel of news to you brought back the along. Aided your at the beginning I appreciate it. It's probably a little bit too much juice but I guess you had to add some because of exactly this news you're referring to so yes now's route was Released and then it was reported as heels. Not Picking up his option and then it was reported not reported in the Eagles so they released him but he's gone. Is the bottom line the short explanation on Niagara Adams releases that they will be spending eight million on him that they would have otherwise been. Spending headey picked up his option. This off season. Do you think that that was the correct move? I think it was kind of a no brainer move. Really when you look at where Nigel Batman's production had been the past couple of years here. I mean obviously he was awesome in two thousand seventeen legitimately like awesome like right. Next year I was on the Super Bowl. But you look at what he what he's been the past two years He has one interception zero force fumbles into sacks in his last thirty games that includes the playoffs and this is going to be the guy in your team had like the seventh highest cap. Hit this year. If he was kept at the rate was supposed to be like. You're really paying guys one of the top players and he turns thirty one September so Yeah to me no-brainer. So I had him as a stay. is not that. I thought he should be back but I thought the eagles I leaned slightly toward them bringing him back. Just because I know how much Jim Schwartz likes him so I didn't think he should be back. Eighteen for shore but at the Eagles did the right thing. I agree with you that In my opinion it wasn't over in her and they did the right thing and they they moved on from him. They serve Me Still. Bring him back if he hits. The free agent market doesn't find any really suitable offers elsewhere. And then you know who knows back on smaller deal deals. Did a season ago with the Timmy. Jernigan near there's any possibility that or even was new ski to do a little bit different same kind of thing you know like they let him go. Yeah I think that's possible I mean it's the preference right. I mean obviously you WanNa find someone. Ideally better younger and I think like Nigel batum with the kind of player that our Roseman was talking about when he said in his post mortem press conference that we need to get younger. I think that's not that he was specifically targeting. Only Nigel Redden. Like I think that's one of the guys like he kind of had in mind cues kind of hinting at the one thing that I could see him coming back. As maybe the the you know not necessarily the signal caller of the defense like if they signed somebody in free agency. And we'll get to that in a little bit will voyage give our tap three free agent linebacker menu options Coming up but you know they brought in a guy that that becomes that and then Nigel. Become sort of the other linebacker. Who's kind of free to run around and make laser did during during the Eagles Super Bowl Year? I can see that as more of a better role for him that way to me. That's where he originally was brought in to be right now. The Eagles had Jordan Hicks in the middle and he was the signal caller and then randomly took over there when he would get hurt. So yeah I think that makes sense But again in the ideal goal should be to get younger there And I guess it'll be interesting to see what brands market is like a mini. Consigned with anyone right now. That's the advantage to him barley while they let him go and begin the opportunity to that end because you can't get complex anymore. Declining options on players. They couldn't just kept him on. They could just not released until time came to exercise option or not so they did do a little bit of a salad. Let them letting them go now. As opposed to waiting more weeks for sure. There's nothing wrong with bitcoin. There's no benefit to them. Getting rid of right. Now's poster but should but yes you're correct brand alert that You know my brand no can't brain brain so you're telling me that brand alert brand brand alert COM pick formula. He won't count toward that away. So the way that it used to work was the eagles In some other teams across the League would sell contracts that there were Kinda like year to year. They pick up an option or not and the way that favor for them as the view not exercise the option. That player will become a free agent at any account tour the cockpit formula but the NFL's realized that will pull. It appears that they have closed that off so to matter whether they cut him. Or they picked up the option He will not counter the copy formula. I will note that last year A player that was a baby a little bit of a different situation with Nick foles because they had like a sort of a nuclear submarine. GotTa turn both keys. Kinda deal or they both had to exercise the option. Eagle's actually did exercise. Found HIM. But Nick foles at opted out of the option. I'm told that he will absolutely still count toward the topic. Formula Alice Year. Whatever the picks are out maybe today were recording on Monday by the way that that won't affect his status as it got cancelled Formula He will show should still get that late round pick from so they'll probably have ten picks and total assuming the projections from over the cap and and whatnot are correct. They'll get another another. Two fourth round. Picks for the losses of Jordan Hicks and for Gold Tailed Antique. So in the wake of Nigel being cut. So let's each give. Our taps three free agent linebacker menu options. He got number one. I'm doing this in terms of realistic. Yes since so like I know kissing select. We're talking about Joe. Sherbert Shelbert attribute. Whatever you WANNA come in the last podcast. But I don't think he's GonNa make the market like the browns atomic apps base in probably gonNA resign him. He's young player So like I don't even really consider him super realistic. Although I will note that I have this list. Jimi of the all the players that'll be available in pregnancy. That has some kind of notable connection to the Eagles in some way. We're at the same tap. One Guy I'll tell you about schober is that the eagles Joel to his pro day to work him out specifically so I didn't know that when I was looking back at my draft notes the number one guy up here. Is Nick quite task? Yes is that who you and we talked about this when we were over? Some of the free agent fits earlier this off season. But you know legal shot a ton of interests in pre-draft. I think a key thing to keep in mind with free agents in general wise's player on the market and like why might they leave and a lot of the times? I think it's probably because you know that player might not be as good. Obviously the team didn't resign them. That doesn't always mean the players bad but sometimes it could. It could be a sign that like okay. The team doesn't really value this player. A ton but I think with him in the case of quite Like the big I. W It's not there quite yet quiet. Calcium do yet But Yeah I think the case with him is like this is the kind of an ascending. This is the kind of I think you'll should make. Yes on a guy like eases sending like he hasn't played more than he could of because he's been behind like good players in Danny Trevathan Roquan Smith in Chicago. Like I think he could be ready for a bigger role in Philly and I think that's why the kind of ideal free agent you go after. Yes so they had the new advocate who defensive coordinator. Is this year after. There was his face left to be the head. Coach of the broncos yet right forgotten left VIC FANGIO US. Thank you so At the beginning of the year that sheer human plane at all. I mean forget like even some small role he just wasn't playing really at all. And then you know the head a couple guys get hurt and he became a starter and played really well so it does make sense for him as a guy that there's a good reason why he's going to get the market like in but for the personas to play because I think the eagles really do make a lot of sense for him for the reason that you noted because they pay a lot of attention to bear the pre drug process in two thousand sixteen and especially notable as noted in previous podcast. Because that was the off season before. Jody even got there. So it was specifically Howie Roseman. Who is interested in this guy? And Howie Roseman is obviously going to be of Greater. Portland's this off season job having moved on So yeah I see him at number one guys two. Who's number two the last thing I'll say on for caskey their Quiet cousy quiet quiet. Quiet quiet we're probably heard Tony. Romo call might call them three different versions of adoring the game in this year. So I think we'll find to do that too. Well that's that's a little deal will always say different name. He'd be running with the Claxton above and one and we'll be right one of the Times. Maybe the last thing on on him though is there was this big gap when the Eagles didn't pick from in that two thousand sixteen. Nfl draft like they picked Somali. Show at number seventy nine and then because of like Carson Wentz trade and other things. They didn't have a pick again until one fifty three shouting gets wrong. Ear Jimmy Smallwood right right or is this judith. In sixteen right you idiot. They had A. There's a big gap in there. And he was taken in there and like schober was taken in. There could have been like eyeing those guys very well but they just didn't have the pick in that round the taken so Last thing I'll say on that The other one I would say I mean little in Cory Littleton from the Rams. Obviously make sense in terms of profile. So realistic but go ahead. Yeah I just don't need super realistic like again. He texts so many boxes which is great in terms of like why you should want this player but that also means is price. I think should be happy. And this is like a two thousand sixteen undrafted rookie free agent. So He's definitely looking for a big deal because his his first chance to make like real money in the NFL doesn't turn twenty. Seven till November is never missed. A GAME IS THIRTY. Seven starts his stat. Line is incredible in terms of productivity out. Twenty six passes. Defense Twenty tackles for loss and I think you had mentioned the the passes. Defense lead the league great linebackers at eight point five sacks the six hundred sections five blocked punts which you pointed out is that's crazy that doesn't get enough attention. That'S INSANE AWESOME. Blair and I have reason to believe that how he very much likes him. I like that but yeah I can't really get dive into that but He is. He's he's a guy that can make a difference. Is the way that I would put it in if they are going to spend maybe a little bit more than they normally would. He's the guy because he's really gonNA coverage that's sort of the Jim Schwartz. Prioritizes in his linebackers is guys with coverage ability. Not necessarily guys that can push the quarterback. They had guys like Michael Kendricks for example in utilize that way. But for you know. A guy like Littleton. Who so good and coverage you mentioned the pass break ups and the and the place that he makes the passing game. He's like a perfect fit for that. Eagles defensive gives you gives you some apple juice in on special teams. If you gotta spend for a guy at linebacker this is the year is the guy that I that that I would go after me. It's like it's A. It's a perfect player for that. He Will Stevens and they do. Need a proven starter. We'll get into that. In there are reasons he ranking spamming. Like you know brought him has gone. They don't therefore linebackers under contract right. Now are anything Gary. He Day Edwards Duke Riley announced Singleton. Yeah did you know that none of those players are under contract beyond this season or one of them is? I think singleton team I guess ever told me to those guys. All right yeah. That's what I meant instead of Singleton but yeah so so they need. I'm idiot now. They need long-term answers there and they need immediate starter. So what about number three for you number two little really? I other fun threes Nigel. Just come back on a on smaller girl. There's really nothing more ad ad that I'm going to cheat here on number three in AD. Three guys forever All these guys have while it's even it might be even more before I'm looking at my list year of these connections and Patrick own. Wha Sar is a guy that Benjamin select wrote about nation he was. He's been with the Ravens so you look at the Andy Wider Connection. There got bench last year. Yes he did. You cannot be like a fallback plan. I guess that's not a guy like like that's not a team anyway. That like Third down they don't know they have like they know thing for four day four. Preston Brown is a name is a guy who used to play for. You started for gym shorts in his rookie year in Buffalo. Yeah that's probably more of a fallback guy. Never Never Hewitt John stolnis Vinson that on one of the recent median row podcast played for Matt Burke. Lynn Matt Burke Defensive Coordinator and linebackers coach Yep in Psalm. Keep an eye on him. What was he with the jets? Yes devinder Campbell out. Keep an eye on because mark landmark hand Manuel of hard names to say not conducive for podcasting Obviously he was the defensive. Backs coach are using offensive experts now for the Eagles and he was the Falcons offensive coordinator so behind him and then Jamie College because reportedly turned thirty one this year so he's on the older side but eagles reportedly had interested in last season and they signs background instead. So what was that mcclay up? Yeah Tono Schober in. You're listening. I just don't easily hit the market so I rise. I really think resigned. I think he's overrated to personally. So I like her in two thousand nineteen he had for picks which POPs out on the statute. Look at them. And they're like of the Hugh really make the play writing. Bolic's she's up in the air and just kinda camps out under catches it like the need Gary against the jets for example where us on the one side of the field sprints across the other read the play like which was going to be a little the the the running back in flat he jumps in front of it. Picks it up. Runs back against great play? Schubert's interceptions weren't really like that all right sale. Like I get the the the idea that he's like some kind of Stud in coverage is maybe a little bit of restated. Because you know those four picks will will stick out on the statute but I do like it was a player I think is game coverage and he always gives you a lot in on specialty. Sweb didn't make a pro bowl to one year. You did you heard it here. You heard it your first folks. Jochen is known nate Gary Right exactly boom. Probably not the best example again. Like nate gary making the play mile. No he said it's too late now. All right let's take a break. We'll come back and we'll review in light of the linebacker position being more important outrageously or review our updated top-five pregnancy needs brandon. Beck up to this baseball truly. It is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. Along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk as we discuss all the ways the phillies of hurt us on our podcast hidden season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty inning subscribed to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us back here on Radio Jimmy. How do you WanNa do this? Let's just jump right in not the draft you. Now that you're clear we're talking about positions that they have to fill players who are will be expected to have significant roles in the short term in twenty twenty so like in the draft. You WanNa get good pliers. Obviously but they you know they're not out there week. One starting it's not the biggest deal Number One and I'll be even that close. Really cornerback so I think like wide. Receiver is the biggest need overall on this roster. Yup I think for Free. Agency specifically quarterback is a position that they have to address and I think they gotta spend significant resources there and they gotta get like you know like a legit quote unquote number one or so that number two on my list. Obviously the gap between one to is not very big at all I put starting quarterback in parentheses too because they probably need to starting cornerbacks than that you know depends on what day with Jalen Hill. Both we both think they're gonNA resign jail mills but if they don't they're gonNA need to starting quarterbacks because you're not going into next season counting on Sidney Jones or Isil to start like it's not it's not going to have now so they need to get at least one and again depending what happens with mills to cornerback number two. I had starting caliber wide receiver number one on my list. I don't think you necessarily have to get speed in free agency. I think in general I prefer speed like because I think that's so we kind of had this talk earlier offseason about like like the eagles just need everything wide receiver. Yes I agree with that conceptually. They don't need just speed but at the same time like they can't keep making exceptions. I feel like what the speed thing like. Oh this guy is good. But he's not fast. You can't keep doing that because all the sudden starts stacking the slowest offense in the league. Which team has been? And I think that's been an issue and I think they've they've devalued it really too much speed in general and you look at a team like the forty niner. Let's hope they've devalued it to the point where it's been like okay. Lee Mike Wallace. But then he's out there. No one else is fast. That's not good enough. You can't just do that one thing and have that one thing and there's no fallback plan and they basically did it last year to Sean Jackson to. You can't just have the one guy that everyone else is. Slow was hell. You need to be like the chiefs. The forty niners. Who have some of the fastest literally? Some of the fastest offense is in the league like speed needs to be more prior tours prioritized. They do prioritize it. I would argue. Well would always answer that during the press conference that the Sean they had a top ten fastest receiver in the NFL. Based on Air I guess next year the next Gen. He'll data a really a paid off. Investment really made a lot of sense so but clearly it didn't work out so I don't necessarily think they have to get a burner increase and see. Maybe that's why because they need to fill a slot role to really when you think about it. Neither lawyer is going to be gone. we don't know for sure like you don't just know that great word is going to be there. So maybe they find a guy in pregnancy contemplates there I don't know but they need probably at least one starting Calbert wide receiver. Because who do you have coming back like We think often Jeffrey is gone. Nelson Adler is definitely gone. And then Sean like you. Can't he's GONNA be thirty four this year and he just missed pretty much all last year. You can't count on him so they need. Would you agree? They need at least one starting caliber wider software shore. Now a huge free agency to see by by thinking on Leading quarterback amuse really enlightening. Doing like kind of going through the exercise of of you know finding all the a forty plus yard pass plays that they gave up beyond that big big plays that they gave up. I mean we all saw throughout the season in a how bad the corners wire terms of getting deep deep. It was across the like milk. Ipt Darby upbeat. Reasonable got torched regularly members of light so like stacking them all like one on top of the other and to see how bad it wasn't a safety certainly didn't help either but the most glaring dignity was that just the cornerbacks can't run with faster receivers in in this league. They have to get somebody who does like you can have jail mills covering the best player on that can't cover the best receiver on the other team. They have to have somebody so you know. It's an issue there to Jimmy commonly lowy was lack of speed. They can't run what what is going on like this position or positions on offense and defense at Positions where you need it boss. What is that like? I can't what does this organizational ethos that like speed does not matter into the NFL GETS INSANE. A realize it now. I do think they are gonNA. They're gonNA correct that thinking this offseason. I really I really do. I think I think they are going to correct that. So missing wide receivers number two for you. Why was he is number two but before we move on dairy slight? Yeah you know. That's picking up. Steam says the topic of conversation and You know I think it's kind of become almost sort of like dairy slave versus Byron Jones. I guess I guess really close. Arise any close to Byron Jones. Would you say we? Would you agree with like in terms of like So the top of the free agent market like he records. Yeah he's like number one gap number two. You agree there for sure. He checks every box. Pretty much that you would want so James Bradbury in the same neighborhood his hand or example. No no yeah. I'm with you there. Late numbers are similar in terms of like completion percentage allowed quarterback rating allowed unless all that stuff but just for me like the athleticism size in tackling ability and everything that Byron Jones has going for him sort of ECLIPSES. A guy like bride. I actually do like the more than I do like him. A little more than I had before but I do think there is a pretty soon being gap between Jones. Bradberry terms of appeal. Why isn't Byron Jones like an elite Tommy Caliber quarterback because that's because he doesn't splash plays? He has two picks career but even agree with that because like he has forty three passes defense. So and how many of these I kinda WanNa go especially this WanNa double check this. How many of those fast pass defenses are like being picked off you know what I mean like? How many how many times is he like deflecting assumption? That might be a good thing to sort of explore you know because I saw that and do that. Pre Pre them signing him. That's right they did. Then that's that's really GonNa look at that point and I think the other point to be made there is a pond is still sort of turnover any forcing a Lotta. Those those pass. Defense and also with his tackling Tackle percentage the last two years anyway so like pro football reference dot com. Has I guess. They started adding more than statistics over the last two seasons so it doesn't go beyond twenty eighteen for the last two years as ms tackle percentage or something like four percent which before five percents of like that which is outstanding. Furqan back like by for by Harrison. Jill Mills up around eleven twelve percent. Darby's around sixteen percent which isn't a surprised but we think of males look good. Tackler visit lend percents tackles was Byron Jones missing four or five. So you're making tackles short sticks in other punts tail so Y- Y he might not be making like these. You know the you know. Pick sixes or anything like that. He is getting the ball back for his office. And they're not like teams aren't throwing Don't like that's what happened with nominee when nominee was good. And obviously this is. I'm not saying Byron Jones's nominee in the sense of like you know he's younger. The profiles are different. And I think it's actually it's a good thing it'll be great for the eagles to have a cornerback. That teams didn't WanNA threat because they definitely do not have that like imagine this being able to Byron Jones on someone teams best receiver in racing them from the game right. That'd be nice right right so Byron Jones again. That's kind of get like you know. He's at the top of the free agent class and then the other guy that's compared to him in terms of appeal just as a solely as a player is Darius slay who's two years older than him is not a free agent in the lions are pretty. The national guys are pretty sure that he's not going to be on the lines next year. They're pretty sure that some team is going to trade for him probably will take a day to pick. Whether that's a two or three. I would guess it'll probably be a three. And then sleigh wants to be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL team signs of. And you don't get any deva them if he's GonNa be a free agent near so for me. It's pretty simple. Between choosing between paying Byron Jones. Sixteen seventeen million dollars whatever it is than it is for two to trade for. Darius leg at least two years older and has also gonNA cost you a day to pick kissing select. We're talking about this on their show and obviously they were dead wrong about everything as they usually are now Kiss was talking about more. So is that like the movement idea has gone a little too far for him. And you can't just be young everywhere news pointing out how the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl. They were older. The Patriots have been older although I think looking at the Patriots in general isn't always a great thing because they're very much first of all and also they have Tom. They had the best quarterback arguably ever. I mean we kind of we kinda think of Tom Brady like now. Twenty twenty four eighty falling off a little bit but certainly over. The last ten years has been ridiculous to get like hey continued. There's a balancing act to be done. You don't want to the youngest sealy don't win also though like you. Don't you're not GonNa win by just being like the youngest team but I mean this team. This eagles seen clearly needs to get young They have to like how he said it. And there's a reason for that. You Look at how this team is falling apart and he looked conversely you look at how. Their season was resuscitated last year. It was when young guys had not to need to step up for these ageing ineffective players guys who like it came to a point where I remember theorizing in. I was alone in this but like a lot of people were theorizing like. Maybe these guys just wanted more and you saw that and now that can't be everything. He can't design Joe Schmo off the street because he wants it more than some other guy but like that's a factor and when it comes to building around Carson Winston having these guys where young hungry I think. There's something to that and with Sleigh like I'm not ready to rule it out entirely because like if you could get him for a fifth round pick which isn't gonNA happen but you know there's a cost for everything I'm saying if they can get him at the right cost even if he's not this long term option up so you didn't even extend him you just traded firm and you're gonNA get him for the one year but like the values too good to pass up like I'm open to that. But ideally that should not be like the first option at all like you should be looking for long-term answers that some of these long term in the Senate like five. That's that's that's a long time in the NFL. But I think you're looking at least two years. I think that's what you want out of a lot of these things and I just don't know If if sleigh is really like the right I was. You wouldn't be the priority for me. I don't think that age argument has swung too far in the direction of the happy younger personally. I think it's very clear they have to get the deputy young. I mean. It's not just that they're going to be losing a couple of guys and then the average age of the team will go down significantly like if Jason Peters moves on to some other team and Josh mccown is doesn't come back to the NFL all like that. You know as a forty year old guy in a thirty eight year old guy. That are back yet. It's going to affect the average age of the team but the thing that I pointed out when I did my age piece for the season began was that they had it was eighteen players. That were either twenty nine years of age or older and that whatever it was whether it was eighteen or is seventy nine thousand nine hundred Whatever was it led the NFL. So it's not just like in Mccown that are really dragging that average age up. You know. It's been sort of across the board on the roster in the post year press conference I forget who go ask the I mean it was pretty. It was pretty obvious. Answer yes out how. He sort of acknowledged it is there. A correlation between guys getting older and more injuries ratio. He answered of course of course. There's a correlation to that you know I'm I you know equated it to himself like I can't do this. Exercise Jimmy more like the US too but it is true the orient the NFL the more prone to injuries and what's been the biggest problem with the eagles last three years. Ding Dang injuries. Like I think on that front you know they do need to get a substantially younger in my opinion when you when we talked about this before your time. Not that like these ratings are and I'll be already on ESPN Winter who had ranked from one to thirty two from the worst the under was twenty five talent across the. Yeah I WANT. I want you to do this for me. Real quick. Who were the top five eagles players who are twenty five or younger Dallas got her Miles Sanders no particular. Order that out right yes anders. The fact that you can't think of a third instantly but Bardot's over twenty five. He's twenty two. He's really young right. Yeah he was. He was twenty one But you couldn't jump to that name you're like Okay Santa's got hurt Barnett. Nothing your points made. I'm looking Ruben. Frank did this and he has maddux. Mark Needs Jake Elliott Jake Elliott by. So right like that tells you that says something the fact that you buy wanted surprise you to. Yeah like off the top of your head. You can't even like and that's an issue. It's it's not just like the eight so I agree with you. It's not just like this age as a whole it's also like AIDS combined with lack of like young guys coming up the thing like once. These older guys are like done like who's behind them. No one right. So the trade or slates. You're bringing you know our quarterback. Forget that part you're giving up a pick sutures to pick. It would be a young guy who theoretically should be contributing someway. You're you're you're taking him around Stewart. Great number three on your driesen needs Number three for me is starting safety. Okay island out of which one do you WANNA cover? I covered linebacker. We But Safety for sure is I've I've saved before so we just have sort of switched. But yeah sure you have one one of either Macleod or Jenkins in probably back. I think cloud Jane stays about you. Yeah agree for as much as Jim. Schwartz seems to like Rodney cloud to think it's just it's Kinda Rodney is not gonNA be back. That was one thing I took away from your posts by the way yes Like running without team very culpable on a number of big plays play. Yes he was like a culprit in a lot of those. I think like he seemed worse than I thought he was last CETERA. That was the most surprising thing about that. Exercise that for me as well as just not only like Was He culpable on. Plays on others. Where you but necessarily say oh. He has to make that play. He never bailed anyone out here. Yeah One guy who deals could be looking at an pro. Football Focus had put this out in the list of like region predictions. So kinda got me thinking about a little bit more was ha ha Clinton dix. Okay Especially because the eagles have a connection to him. In the sense of he was one of the Roseman six. We can call it. Say the sexy six One of the six players that eagles realistically wanted in two thousand fourteen. Nfl draft at pick number twenty two overall Clinton Dix off the board at twenty one to the packers right before the eagles pick before the eagles traded down then selected market Smith so didn't work out too well for the eagles there but Clinton Dix was one of the guys they supposedly liked and I think he's the kind of guy who makes sense for them given the price tag and what is market will be. I think I think you can sign him to a deal. That's reasonable. That's maybe like a three or four year deal. That's actually like two year deal when you look at like the guaranteed money and I think he's turning twenty eight so you'll have him for a couple of years not not the greatest tackler. He is not known for that but he is known for having coverage skills and I think having that guy on the back end of the defense to replace Rodney McLeod. Kinda makes sense. There think that'd be that would alarm me would be if he doesn't belong to a new team which is highly likely his fourth or fifth in like many something worth team since the beginning of two thousand eighteen really. So that's not great. It's not the the guy. The top of the class is justin sentence from the broncos. Who is you know? He had four picks last year Had A ton of tackles l think they're going to be in the market for that they want to spend that kind of money at the kid tagged any Mike attack to and they should tag really the other guy that I like a lot as far as his game goes and how he would translate to. The Eagles seem is Jimmy Ward. Because he's fast and he can really cover silence deep guy in head but he's he's short which isn't a positive thing but that doesn't he gets hurt. That doesn't like he doesn't Jim Schwartz care about that whereas other teams will but like you said like he gets hurt so much silicon like I mean. That's not as no small thing gets like a big big deal like you know you mentioned the injuries butleigh three or four minutes ago and now advocating for a guy that like turtles died and he's also twenty nine that's problem but as far as what is ability actually is I mean. He's perfect fit for this eagles defence. In another guy that I think The Eagles liked and this was during chip. Kelly when he came out was Damaris Randall because You know in those days they really put a high priority on safeties who also cover out of slot which he can do. I knew he had some weird stuff going on this year. He got benched. I think at one point. I don't know that whole situation. But he's a guy that I think makes sense. A sort of gym shorts does like Are Guys that have cornerback. Experience in their background. So Jimmy. Wardhaugh College Damaris Randall has that from college. He played some corner in the post. Well so those are two guys that make some sense. It's kind of weird safety class. Because they're you know there's the one guy at the top and Simmons and there's actually some pretty decent options out there like that. I love come out of college. But don't think bell really be super interested in is Carl Joseph. Remember him from Raiders. Like his highlight reel from college was just so fun to watch. You just like destroying guys. Like he's like a hitter than he is covering I use a real Taylor mays. It'd be very I pick seventeenth overall like I loved them Buddy money went. You WanNa get drafted. It was like. Wow it's really early for him. That's the reader for you but I don't really have a great handle on the Safety Commission terms of prioritize Scott Tricky. There aren't a lot of guys at safety in Free Agency with connections to the team so on this list I have. I'll be there's I did put him on the air. Do we give? Because it was really rumored to be interested him back in two thousand fifteen when chip was in charge but still it kind of seemed like even the interest might have went beyond that beyond the tip seem like the organization really liked him. They assign him. They thought they had. Yeah and then. They didn't get him. They had this extra money that they didn't account for the day that they signed and they went. Uh Screw. Let's just get DEMARCO Murray instead. Good idea that's a true story. It worked out so it's one guy I had on. A list of potential casualties would be reshad. Jones older so not necessarily the perfect fit there but he played under Matt Burke in Miami so I just added them their potential connection Shana Neil also might be available. I'm seeing but again. That's more like a miserable guy here. Cover Guy and. I don't know if he actually gets cut that I saw there some buzz about that in Atlanta so eagles tenable hero yes. China Neal's need to be really specific there Yeah so that's the safety position. What did you have at number five Jimmy? So that was the route like it was tough like I know. A lot of people really want You Know Defensive End Help. I guess I went there. So that's like my fifth one but I don't see them out realistically. I don't see them going after the Janaka Gaga for example. I don't see it like their starters are barred at Graham. I mean whether you like it or not and I understand that the argument against you know those having those guys and just being happy about it I get it. But they're the stars like you're have to pay what like you got to pay over fifteen million for sure and it. Could it could approach twenty Indus. Even WanNA come here if he's not gonNA be like time starter in rotation Alam ever guy. This is my argument all last year. When light the county rumors popping up I was like they're not gonNA trade for him as they have like. You might want him and I understand that but I'm telling you like realistically what the team likes. Like they like what they have and you might not feel great about that but like that's what it is. That's the situation. I'm telling you they like they like Derek a lot. I bring up all the time. Lords talk about how his daughters Whereas Jersey? They're not sending me to the bench like he's starting this year the first round pick. Ram obviously too and and they shouldn't be diese euro forever so So yeah they're they're they should add. I mean ideally in a perfect world they should add more there but I just don't think they will so I don't have that and I don't I don't think they need more guys there too. You know what I mean like. They have they don't need another body there. They have a lot of bodies. They're not save. Joe Seven of bodies. There's really what it is. They have Girardi read. The Sheriff Miller Josh Sweat Day Sean Hall Probably. Begin the season on pup. But he's around to. He's still only twenty four so they just have a lot of guys there. I HAVE BACKUP. Quarterback is number because who is it. I don't I don't know like the mccown thing is weird to me because like he seems like such it like the way I think about is. They need to keep account in the building somehow but he's not ready to be coached east recovering from a hamstring injury. By the way which I don't I kind of forgot that that was a six month recovery. He put on that. He can barely walk A day or two after that game I was walking behind a mic of the steps toward the owner complex and he barely walker but he he can barely like unstrained his his leg is the way I would describe it. He's turning forty-one this off season he got hurt not too long into playing his first significant action of the year really like extended playing time in the playoffs. Like how much can you really count on his body to not break down like I love Josh mccown like I think again? I think you need to find a way to keep him around somehow in the building but like is he like really equipped to be the backup quarterback in terms of like his body. I I don't know down such as a as a player. You wouldn't count on him as a player. Count Him as a player okay. and then suddenly will be a free agent to like. Has He proven enough? Ideally I do think he's back but I'm saying like equation N N one name. I'm to say who doesn't make sense for the eagles. I think people have floated out there. They're not going to sign. Joe FLACCO. Marcus Mariota well that to actually get into that but but FICO like flacco was criticizing skin. Carello by the way he ripped him. There's no way there's no way flacco wants to come play DOH first of all like Denver ousted Cottam. I haven't read. But if they do like I don't think those are picking up Joe Flacco like he might WanNa come. Here is the you know the post nearby in South Jersey and Andy wireless ear but like Offense coordinator him will the facto often coordinator and five Don't seem to be on the same page so I'm not counting on that. Yeah and then. The MARIOTA thing is stupid to calcium Why is he gonNA come here? He's not gonNA WANNA come here. He's GonNa go go somewhere. Where at the very least like he can compete for the job or at least be like last year's Ryan Tannehill. Actually what happened to him literally? What happened to him like he can go sign with the bears and be like? I'll just wait for trubisky two F. and then and then they'll turn to me. That's where he's GonNa go. Yeah Yeah and he's GonNa cut like he's GonNa cost too much to so he's going to be at the is going to be at the top end of the backup quarterbacks that remark and it's GonNa probably be on a one year deal where he can again explore the market again If he does it on the assumption that he does play at some point. This year end shows anything that he's always value whatever he goes somewhere else so they can get a one year deal somewhere. And that's not like it's GonNa be expensive like it's GonNa be tomorrow between what eight ten eight ten million dollars. I'll take legally low win starting money can't I can't see spending that kind of money either with I mean in previous years. They spent a lot on Nick foles obviously but when you talk about like all the the obvious immediate needs that they have cornerback. Receiver linebacker safety. They have to find players before those positions in free agency presumably. I have that much weight. Leftover for a backup quarterback now. So Laurie go gaff belts back. I think it's going to be the same thing that happened last year. Where the two all off season long and then if some spooks them or they're scared off and they'll bring in another guy you just before the start of the season whether that's account or somebody else. I don't think they're gonNA make a move there. But I do agree with you that it is sort of a Anita has addressed at some point. We'll take a break here. And then we'll get into some all Sean Jeffrey Discussion Jimmy Back. Hello this is Jesse David Fox. I'm a senior vulture and host. The podcast good one. Eight podcast about jokes. It's a podcast about well jokes. Every week I sit down with a comedian comedy writer or Director. One of their jokes and figure out how it all came together. I don't sit down with a pen and the pad physically. Write down everything I just has not my style turns out comedians. Take jokes pretty seriously. I like all jokes okay. That's what I do. That's what I live. There's really nothing else I care about. I it's all very revealing. What did you sort of learn from this? What was your takeaway? Nothing Guyane not. I'm not sure mar curse good one from poultry and the box media podcast network. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or on your favorite podcasts. At you do not use the puck APP. Let a great question Jesse David Fox. Back here on. Bg and radio for final segment of episode one. Oh six these rate review subscribe all those good things. The podcast We are here to talk about off Shawn Jeffrey. Now Jimmy Alshon Alshon. The Guy who complains about our say lane a while ago during the season someone was like. Can you stop you? Have these stop seeing Al Shaw Animal. Yeah I don't know now. I'm really self-aware aware about it so that's great but there was a report that came out last Friday from the athletics. Connor Hughes who is a jet? Speechwriter SHOULD BE NOTED. It was a whole article about the New York jets. Potentially being a landing spot for Sean Jeffrey who by the way right now is still under contract with the Eagles and the exact language that was used in this report from counties. That are looking to move awesome. Jeffrey which I saw a lot of people yourself included here on the prep. She ear Jimmy that said like no s league. No like no right like I don't but I think that's not no doubt everyone. I think some people are like convinced that he's going to be still even after having this conversation with you last week in posting the transcript of you know you saying you're extremely confident they're gonNA look to move on from yes he some people are just have been so in denial about this whole thing about him even being the source behind ripping Carson Wentz. Like I don't understand why people are so in denial about this especially now when you have even more evidence from Connor who saying that leak sources told the athletic that Wentz in Jeffrey never saw either and the relationship was testy. The Eagles are looking to move. Jeffrey and Jeffrey would welcome the change of scenery from my perspective. I know for sure with one hundred percents certainty that he bashed Carson Wentz in each of the last two seasons with certainty so from my perspective might WanNa get them off the team when writing other so I understand where the perspective of somebody who doesn't know that can say just rumors. We're basing all this offer rumors like okay. But I mean if they trade him for nothing he'd be gone yesterday actually can't wrote traded yet sleep till the newly gear but he would be heels. Beagle if you'll share them for like a loaf of bread tomorrow that they get gone like kind of breath. Just to mitigate pepperidge farm Sentiments world. They will do that like the first minute of the newly year they would trade him for literally anything. Just to mitigate the twenty six million dollars cap hit that comes with a dropped sixteen in by Good Luck Al-Shar Bank control the Super Bowl memories but We gotTA move on. Do that. Unquestionably they would do that so as far as like you know the eagles looking to move. I do like that phrasing looking to move as the right way to put it because they just WanNa move them like they're not necessarily looking to trade him for anything they'd be happy to just get rid of them because they weren't a trade him it would have to come with some sort of draft pick compensation going with him to another team. Allah Brock Osweiler Were keep delete this past year. For example you have to treat something within did to be able to move them. Now I did like along L. Jeffrey primer where like azure super boring. Every question that has come up and I agree. It really was super boring but it did serve as answer all the questions. That like Peop- fewer questions that people had about the situation and You know one of the one of the things that I asked Joel Corey WHO's a former? Nfl agent and You know now is analyst for CBS. Sports he thought it would take to pick along with Jeffrey to to be able to move. The actually said I'd ask for one but ultimately like I'd settle for two if I were a team like the colts for example that or like dolphins or like that that has a ton of cash face. He said it would take to and obviously the aren't going to do that. So He's pretty much in my opinion untradable. That's not going to happen. It is interesting as you mentioned that it was jets reporter and when you think about Janet's obviously Douglas Joe Douglas Played for the for the bears were Jones. Is there included Joe? Douglas was there so no Jeffrey does shake free and again. I don't think he's tradeable in any way. I do see that as sort of a a a logical landing spot for for him so that one of the more interesting things about that report was that all. Sean would welcome the move. All Sean aged denied this letter he loves. I don't really get the sense that he would. All Sean seems to like to be around. I don't think the issue I think the issue isn't that I don't think all Sean is trying to force his way out as much as it's just you identified it. This is a guy who criticized the starting quarterback and like you just can't have that two years in a row and also so here's an interesting point. I guess what people fight back on that point when they don't WanNa believe that they say. Why would they guarantee his contract for this year if the eagles new in the first time that like back in two thousand eighteen? When they're that I report came out from Josie Anderson and other suspicion that it could be Jeffrey because of the relationship there. Why would they then guarantee his contract war this upcoming season into nineteen are you? Athletes Upson developing. Yeah Okay al-talia Weird case like. He's not Odell Beckham Junior in that. Like he's not like this side show. That's constantly bulk me to drop right. And he's not like Antonio Brown who has his own patented style of crazy. He's he's very quiet in the Locker Room. He's he's you know he's not like like he's not like a like you said like look at me. Kinda guy so I think when. I'm pretty sure they understood when they did that. Contract renegotiation or whatever you call it restructure. They're pretty sure that he was the. I'm sure they do not perform sure. They knew that he was the one that talked to Anderson. But one time a lot different than twice in consecutive years out in great so like they they wanted some extra. Catholics ability they actually saved like ten million on the twenty nineteen cap at the time. There were like some appealing players that were potentially available so I think like the right deal come along. They needed that cap space to be able to make a deal. Obviously deal never happen but certainly it makes sense that it didn't make didn't make sense to me at all. Really when when they did that restructure like I thought that in terms of like the overall picture of the wide receiver position because they drafted a guy in. Jj whiteside that had the similar still said as Alshon it makes sense for them to move on from Alshon. Anyway you know forgetting all about the you know any Justina Andersen stuff but as far as like creating cap space like that strategy made sense in the sense that you know they think might have added a player that could have helped them during twenty nine thousand nine season when you me and everybody else sort of them as superbowl contenders. Yeah I think you hit it there with the two times is different than the one time thing. It was like okay. He did this this one time. He was frustrated. Whatever it's not going to happen again but it did happen again. Yeah full full chase. Got Full Foamy while shame on Hand Right House foaming shave on the Eagles now. Like if you go three times just shave on everybody. Same Had AGO seem on shame. Are The George Bush. It was the West. Pull me once. Strike one her by the Michael Scott. Twice strike three. In addition to Jeffrey the locker room thing like even putting that aside again going back. To Ruben Frank I referenced earlier you did a good job of comparing Alshon Jeffery and James Thrash you kind of have like similar numbers and if you go on their averages based on their years when they were regulars on the eagles and So James the assets fifty five catches six hundred. Seventy five yards CO POINT. Four yards per carry five touchdowns. That was his average off on Jeffrey. Say many cats is fifty five seven hundred seven yards so about thirty yards. Four point five more yards per carry in one more touchdown neither averages and so it's like it's not that different Is the fourteenth highest paid wide receiver in the NFL right now but since two thousand seventeen? He's thirty seventh among receivers in yards per game. So it wasn't any wasn't good this past year. There's another point that kind of gets lost He's not dead. He said clearly the line he might be cooked. The what's kind of come to fruition. Here all of the concerns about signing him originally have kind of come to fruition. When you think about it like there were concerns about injury issues. Those popped up Obviously Jeffrey a very commendable job appointed show doesn't seventeen. I'm not sure I'm not trying to take any. I think the legacy of all Sean is complicated. That's put it. No one's trying to take away the things he did but this is the reality of where we are. Now we're talking about but we when we look back when we look back at the time of all Sean. Jeffrey was legal. It's not going to be only be defined by the Carson Winston. That's not the case like the good times happen. Yeah but just talking about it now in where things have gotten. It's just you know it's all the concerns when you were signing him in free agency in why. He was available in Free Agency where the bears moved on for them injuries. Locker Room concerns. That was a thing. There is concerned. Valor implied room. They first silent and this reasoning for that so like now. You're seeing some of that stuff. Coming to fruition combine Jimmy the. Nfl Combine starts this week. We will hear from Howie Roseman and Doug Peterson starting at one thirty PM on Tuesday February twenty fifth speaking at the combine and every year. It's not like they give away all their secrets. Obviously I don't like the people who will they don't say anything. That's not necessarily true kind of dropped some hints about some things last year Flat out said that you weren't GonNa Franchise Tag Nick Foles. So that was some big news Even though we suspected that still confirmed it so less Belen I was reading some of one of his articles today and he kind of did a good job of looking back at years past looking at like the big theme coming out of some of these combined pressures and they're usually was one it could be like in two thousand seventeen when he like how he pretty much said like we need upgrade the cornerback. Spot like that was obvious but still he said it. So what are you looking for this week to me as you attend the combine in person yet while the obvious thing is or is using the at the Y. Receivers we'll see how they run like Henry Rugs for example. Everyone's expecting him to run a sub four three forty and if he does you can pretty much forget about the eagles drafting Cinco. Some cadillacs way up draft board. Can you go to Indianapolis in make sure that stubs his toe really rocking issue or something like that? Actually got here combine odds and props at during the show here man oster on the fastest forty yard dash and I like a lot of these websites aren't actually gambling websites. They usually just website. They're trying to jump traffic to but they have rugs at four one if the top occasion handler Penn State. Seventy one Noah Igbo night e he quarterbacks Auburn nine to one David Arnett from Ohio state. Fifteen one those. Those two guys are corners during for a two more receivers. Deputy Rene Texas fifteen one at Jeff Thomas from Miami. Sixteen to one so we've already kind of beaten to death. The old need to add speed both in this podcast and the previous ones and There are a lot of fast receivers draft. I mean it's not just a really talented deep draft just overall people were on it like potentially store draft In terms of the number of guys that are going to get drafted. You know your first round or just overall day to day. One whatever And you know how good they're going to be once they get to the NFL potentially historic. But also there's a lot of guys that kind of fit with heels knee rugs handler for example Degrom is maybe not a great example. Jerry Judy's faster guy Ringer town ray or from TCU's faster guy CD land that doesn't have elites feebly. Certain fast not probably gone. By the time they will pick Brandon Euch from Arizona. State has a chance to go in the first round if he has a good combine that you know maybe he's more of a of a palatable to the Eagles at twenty one so what the what. These receivers run you know. There's there's GonNa be a lot of people say but the but guys do. The combine doesn't matter while I'll buy that like you know at the wide receiver position anyway. Cornerback that stuff does matter or is it doesn't really matter like therefore net runs a four eight. Whatever was that doesn't matter as much as it does for like a receiver that receivers running like a four six than you know. That's not good you don't want you don't see it certainly. A cornerback. Is running for six like Brazil? Douglas did a few years ago. Detriment indication of what he's going to be the fell and that's sort of played out the way you know. As sort of as expected or Elisa Holyfield last year who I mean dense elect said on tape like that was his running back number two going into the early early in the process and I think going into the combine even and then he just horrible combine didn't get drafted on Eagles on the future contract Bottomley roster kind of deal. So that's definitely matters and especially at the positions you mentioned. I'll be interested to see how t higgins runs sweeten ocular eagles target example. Actually we don't have him. I hate some some of the descriptions around him like Kuyper over and over again keeps reading fifty fifty ball guy when nothing else. I think he's a lot more of that and get that combine so we personally I just remember the play in the championship game specifically where he was on a reverse. It looked like it took him forever to get into the end zone. It was like Nick. Foles ran for a touchdown in early in his career. Touched our on wasn't it but like just watch it. Watch it though. It looks like moving in slow motion. He looked at it. Looks like it's taking forever for him to get there. This is like no one in the like he's not like like stacking guys racing guys like it's just like it just felt like it took so long we shall not so well. Look I'm open to be. I hope he does do degraded the. I'm not rooting against him. But like I WANNA see it. Please let let me see. Prove it to me the other prospect. I wanted to talk to you about Jimmy before we wrap up here. We're going long. How do you feel about Justin? Jefferson and I asked his Daniel Jeremiah. Yeah Did a press conference last week kind of talked about a bunch of different receiver prospects in quarterback prospects throughout but specifically when asked about the eagles. You know he was talking about how now rugs and guy that would make so much sense but probably won't be there. Justin Jefferson is a name that could be there and he's actually number sixteen on. Dj's top fifty than just refreshed today on Monday so How do you feel about Justin? Jeffers yes I have him as the first round pick in I think it was my eagles. Mock draft you point out and not that I felt great about it but I think you know I think Ross is GonNa be gone. I think judy is going to be on. Cd LABS on the. I think the Biscuit Chenault make sense. I Take T- Higgins. Make some sense if you can get past the time brandon. I make sense. Jefferson's the other guy so like Jefferson is probably best at a slot and he was super productive there for Lsu. I think in the NFL is gonNA frustrate opposing Because he catches everything so he's able to get open tables Decent lab separation. So if you know any kind of separation he does get Catches everything who's GonNa frustrate defense in the sense that he's going to keep moving chains but I don't think that's all I think he's a sort of a guy that also gets open in the intermediate deeper parts of the field although he's not like a burner like drugs or rigor or as that. But I think he's just a really solid player was inside and outside experience at Lsu super productive like yeah. I think it was third in the country. Thirty four in receiving yards fifteen touchdowns you know twelve touchdowns in the red zone. So he was going to like that to Adiel. Pick at twenty one but I can see it. I think the thing with me wide receivers like the eagles have to find a burner somewhere. They have to leave. That is not is non-negotiable they have to do at some point and then once they get that guy like then. I'm kind of open to other types of wide receivers but if they don't have that guy it just doesn't matter to me you don't find the burner. What are we doing? This is like how am I supposed to go into another season? Just kinda hoping okay dishonored. Better stay healthy. Because we doesn't end just going to be in the same spot the engine for example. You Pie feel better about the pack right To me that's the number one thing they must do ultimately what we're just talking about entire offseason needs. They need burner. They can't just get a guy like that's what I don't like about D. Higgins if he's going to be your only guy who you add like that like that doesn't count to me like he's not burner he's just not he's not a flat out burner like he wins. Increases exposure plays where they need someone who can stack people and can be legit burner. And they can't discount onto sean to do that because of what we saw last year. So that is what kind of I am dislike obsessed with quickstart time for a quick story story for Mental Ramaphosa Twenty Sixteen How he's doing his His press conference at the podium and at the time I was up Mike my girlfriend was. I'll say like whenever I like we'd go on the road. Cheat was like uncomfortable that thought screwing around on the road again. It's not what you I couldn't do if I wanted to write so but I think that's what her process was so like those road trips would be difficult on the relationship. Because that's just what she thought wrongly. But that's what she thought so Howard Rosen seven his press conference and again the two thousand sixteen so to the draft Carson. Wentz we all know. They're taken quarterback at some point out. Just don't know when before they traded up for you know from thirteen eighty eighty eight to obviously. But I have some some question about quarterbacks and how he goes yet quarterback that's the sexy possession. Jimmy right and who? You're feeling sexy today. I remember that and like I'm like was heavy. Yukio like no. You're not like You don't really know how in the way the press conference say weird things like that. The Roy may be funnier than he is. He like. Let's say weird things like that sometimes so like my girlfriend designed was watching the press conference live on. Nfl Network and again because she wanted to see if you're gonNA ask me questions. So when he said that in her mind she was like he was out last night and he saw me go home girl or something on no created this huge fight. I think we even link broke up with it over over briefly. That wasn't the alternate break up. Like we did break up briefly about because we just got an is humongous fight or this nonsensical comment from Halley. Throw in line. So that's why combine story? It's a four year anniversary of Jim. While Jimmy were you feeling sexy that I was yeah he was correct. I was feeling sexy. Yes well it's a fair point then hard to blame for that Any final thoughts. I got nothing other than that. Yeah that's about it for me. Obviously we'll have coverage of the combine can read my work at bleeding nation. That time. Jimmy's work at PHILLY DOT com. You can follow me on twitter Jimmy on twitter at Jimmy. Kamsky you can fall. Bgn Radio on twitter at BDO and underscore radio make sure you rate review. Subscribe all those good things more good draft stuff for you including a surprise that people kinda like nothing too big. Don't get too excited and at the temperature down but it will involve some other allies now. Talk about podcast interplay. We talked about this. So that's all I have. We will see you next week here on January by. Hey there podcast Powell's I'm John Stolnis the host of the Phillies pod hitting season. 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Starting 9 Episode #80 - Nolan Arenado

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Starting 9 Episode #80 - Nolan Arenado

"What go back to starting nine episode eighty eighty well because on that hun do well, by the way, creeping. Max heater right now. Eighty got some word on the street. I don't know if Rosenthal put it out there yet. Rumors swore around right now that starting nine might have two week during the season. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know anything about that sources. I'm just I'm just telling you what I saw on read it. Around on Twitter feed the grounds crew just might be something that happens during the regular season. So I'm just saying that might accelerate the process to get to one hundred yards. And if we do not if we do when we do get to one hundred we gotta do something special for that a blowout. Maybe we try to get everybody that throws one hundred dollars. That's probably not going to happen. No, one do throws one hundred miles an hour to do the podcast. So like, Jordan Hicks. I would love it. It's like one oh five gonna wait for one hour. We. Yeah. I think he's one of the guys that were supposed to be getting down Florida. So this is our this is our week off. We did a week in Arizona. We got a week and our respective domiciles. And then a week down in Florida with list of names, a juicy list of names. Than the list of names is going to be the miles traveled godforsaken state of Florida. Yeah. And I mean, you know, obviously, the we got a bad week weatherwise in Arizona. But everything else lived up to the hype everything the Dallas talked about we after week about Arizona spring training lived up to the hype. And I'm almost seeing it in reverse. I think if we had gone to Florida I and this is fucking miserable. In terms of you know, the distance between camps, and then we would have done Arizona after this is so much better. It's almost like I saw our Zona saw great. It was. So how convenient was? But then we sort of talked to players they were like yet, you spring Chang and Florida it's a bad time snag as I told you I told everybody that would listen everybody that does listen and download and subscribe leaves the comet I told them not going to be great reactions. You're going to hear it from the horse's mouth. Don't take my word for or lavar Burton's word for it. Take their for it. Yeah. It's in the two. Didn't you mention today that like six teams have left Florida for hours ONA? Yeah. Like, I mean think about it. The dodgers were in Florida should who. That's the one that comes to mind right now. Should I forget who else? But like over the course of like, I'm not talking about in the last five years, but over the course of I want to say twenty years teams have migrated towards eras ONA and kind of left Florida behind that number could be high. But I know it's more than just the dodgers which I talk about. Yeah. It needs to be more. What by the way? Why the fuck why are the D-Backs of Florida spring training team? Why are the diamond the diamond backs are not Florida spring training team? They're not I thought we just looked at the map today, and they are cheeses Christ jeered. Do we not just look at a map today in the Florida team? You I don't know if this is you failing geography, or if this is you not remembering which fucking folk law. We were on. But a little buddy the Diamondbacks play in Arizona. They I'm aware of that. Did they not have spring training and Florida before no? No, okay. Then we can we can forget that that ever happened. Yeah. That'll yeah. But the other thing about Florida is that like the if you're trying to have these teams go down there and have this sort of relaxed environment. You're basically in a time portal back to the minor leaks. It can't happen it sucks. It's brutal. It's grind. E you gotta get up in the morning. You're taking off. I mean, four hour drives three hour rides. Like, I mean, I understand that for some guys and for some areas, it's a little more condensed, but as far as experiencing spree trading as we have sold it. It's not where you want to go to do that. It's just not as a player would you've experienced the convenience of Zona. And what that does for a spring training schedule your idea of spring training, your family's IT of spring training is completely different. It's a different life. It is. So I'm super tempted. Because I am super excited about the the Florida trip just based on the names so tempted to just go down this list of names. But now, I know better because we did have we did have guys confirm for our Zona that we didn't end up getting and we did have guys that ended up coming on the podcast that were not confirmed by the time that we landed in Arizona. So let's I'm not I'm tempted to say names, but I will not say names. I don't wanna promise names that we can't liver. But and also, you gotta understand to your point schedules. Change should these things pop up and guys end up making a road trip that they had initially planned on because maybe somebody gets scratched or they're gonna see somebody or you know, what I'm actually going to get by working on the minor league side today. So I'm not going to be able to meet you somewhere that we had scheduled like that can all change. And that's that's all part of this this free training experience. Is we are as fluid as these guys. And that's that's our job. That's what we're here to do is win. They're available. If they're available. To bring you that content. So we are we're at the mercy of the ball players in the schedule. But the the college effort is there. That's that's just rolled life baby. That's just a couple of road dogs out. Dan thing. The only way it could be better. If we had Jay, I I would love to have Jay, you know, riding along the long roads of Florida with us. Yeah. I feel like I feel like the dude with the longest hair and like just Jay's earthy individual. If you will. And I feel like in my writing the magic school bus was Jay he's probably near the top of that list. And to not have him is. It's they say, you don't you don't really know a person until you've driven across Florida with them. Yeah. It is. It's a test of sorts. Yeah. So we we do have Florida coming up next week, by the way our policies for not dropping a podcast last week. Again, we were those were long days we were kind of like up at fucking seven thirty Dallas was up at four thirty some days us over jerk enough the as before he came on the bus with us. So we had long mornings long days. We were calling it a night at like, eleven o'clock. We were getting messages from the ground. Screw saying. Hey, come out and drink beers with us, and I was like dude I'm going to fucking bed because we had to again tomorrow. So we have a ton of content already logged again, the YouTube channel is coming. I think that that might be coming within the next week or two where we're going to be dropping say we drop a podcast with an interview on like a Monday that full length. Video of the interview will be on the YouTube channel within the next twenty four to forty eight hours. So that's a look forward to the blog. Is going to be going all year. And yeah, we have a ton of interviews. That are backlogged. Plus, the interviews that we're gonna be getting in Florida. And I think we've kinda gotten to a point where we want to be on the road more. So we can be going out during the season, especially during the all star break in Cleveland. If we go to the all star game, those guys are just kinda sitting around waiting for something to do about. You do something with us. So I think that that will be on the horizon. So a lot of sort of sit down in person interviews with your favourite major league stars. I saw some people Dallas some people not all people. But some people say we're doing a better job of promoting major league baseball players than than major league baseball. Yeah. You know, it's not really for me to say though. And we're not we're not we're not the judgy type. No us no somewhere here to do. We're to tip the cap all ten right spec. We appreciate you. But we appreciate the players even more because sometimes you hit road blocks. Sometimes not everybody is as in tune with what we're putting down. Not everybody wants to pick it up and put it in their bucket, but we do understand. And we are realizing that there are quite a few folks who who just like the way baseball is being played today. Actually, enjoy the way that you, and I and J, and frankly, I think the rest of the rest of barstools is delivered. And again this for us to say, but we just want to let you guys know our effort is one hundred percent, they're growing growing like a like a fatty tumor. That's what we're doing what we're doing. So check on us because we're getting big I got a question for you, douse comapny, bro. What was your favorite interview that we conducted in Arizona? I think I think that's going to be a quick and easy one for me. That's clever trim. No doubt. Yeah. Club of it was seventy nine episodes seventy nine that was for me that was fun because. And we talked bro. It was. It was a it was a conversation that we were just that. We were able to record is really what it was. It wasn't an interview of sorts. It was just a it was a couple of goods who have who have really aligned with each other. They're feeding off of each other. You've seen the friendly competition grow with Trevor Bauer and his his media company. They've been pumping out content or the offseason some intimate intimate interviews with guys obviously, one of them. But they come on the bus. And I mean, it's first of all it's great because you know, it's like meeting old friends, and really, and then they they let you into their world. They let you they're talking about the things that frankly, a lot of us want to hear about that'd be great podcasts cleven trav- trip. I mean, I'll I'll retain the rights. I would hand them to them. No questions asked looking do. You know, look into Martin Shkreli anybody here. But that was that was by far for me, the favourite, but it was just because obviously the new ones behind it, obviously, obviously the lefty or frequent oh free ball. I had a bucket. Great time with that dude as well. Because after after we were chopping it up. Impromptu, change combos starts starts happening. And I was just you know it. We'll talk about changeups. I'm fucking all in so blast. Yeah. I did to my favorite interview personally. Nolan are not. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Seeing like that dude. Just walk onto the RV was like oh shit cause. I mean, we had a long list of guys that we planned on interviewing when we touched down in Arizona. He wasn't on that list. He was a guy that sort of just fell into our laps. Once we got down there doing some networking trying to figure out like on a whim. Is there anything that we can do extra down here? And then the name Nolan are not pops up. Hey, are you interested? Yeah. Yes. So we got we got absolutely shot out or boy lofty grinding the axe hard all weekend long or all week long excuse me, or or Josh is well grinded out all week long with those shelves to Travis from old hickory the old hick, boys. It was it was just a great. It was a great total bucket team effort. But when era Nado steps on the. A bus team would out the window. And I it was it was it was you and him from the very beginning because she stepped on the Nolan Nolan. Look at me right now look me in the eye Nolan. Had the audacity fun of me to congratulate corrobos like he started getting what seven like he hit booked in free eighty. We didn't need again seven. It was it was it was incredible talk about a classy can act steps on the bus congratulates, the rocket on his championship. And I'm like what got a payback respects. Now got to pay my respects, obviously, sits down he gets comfy, and let's be real. I don't know. How many seconds it took before? Jared was like inverted under his scrotum. Just fucking. Hey suha's. Boston boston. Do you like chowder? How do you like how do you like Red Sox Red Sox? It was. Wow. Now's my favorite. Like, I feel I get Yankee fans tweeting me the video of we got like a question. I like who's your favorite non Red Sox player? And I go on this whole spiel though, Giancarlo Stanton. He was my favorite non Red Sox player. But now, he's on the I can't he cannot be my favorite non Red Sox player that seems understandable as a Red Sox fan in my opinion. I don't think it's an old takes expose thing. It's just he's he's a Yankee can't be my favorite Red Sox player. So that man, but came Nolan are not the second that Giancarlo San held up that Yankee jersey at the press conference house like no one's guy. So here we are on an RV in Arizona. It's pouring out, by the way. All the locals were like, hey, it rains twenty times a year here, you're here for one fourth of it. It's pouring out Nolan role is up in the Range Rover gets up on that RV. And we just couple couple of guys couple dues. Just talk. A little shop. He was he was he was so accommodating with his time. And I mean, this isn't says in a knock on anybody else. Because everybody that we were able to sit down and spend any amount of time with I mean, folks open their homes us Nolan was as welcoming and like you said he wasn't even we were not even on his radar. Yeah. Until about three days before we left so for him to for him to make time and make that happen. I mean that speaks to the that speaks to the character this, dude. And I think there's no wonder why why Nolan got breaded the fuck up. Yes. So. Before we get into any of that. You can still go to Zona. And if you go to Arizona, you'll probably have way better weather than we had we absorbed all the bad weather for you. So you can go to resort and have a better time. We caught a couple of games. We went to cubs brewers. And then we went over and saw White Sox as so there's still plenty of spring training left for you as a fan to go and enjoy douse while you tell the fine folks the grounds crew what else that they can do in Arizona. Well, I think I think what else you take away from getting to Arizona is one you're going to be able to enjoy the weather like Jared said because we took that on the chin for you. We took all those big raindrops right square on the cock sucker for you. Yeah. So for everybody else. It's going to be joining you out there family, friends this. This is an environment for everyone horseback riding games restaurants. There's a lot going on in old town, Scottsdale. There's a lot going on in luck went on. There's a lot going on everywhere. If you're into science museums. Check wildlife parks. Shut aquariums. Big aquarium guy check. They've got it all the best part, which we've Syrian the proximity folks the proximity. We took you to ball games in one day frankly in a morning and an afternoon, we took in two games. Four teams two different stadiums. Two different types of dogs to different types of beers. All within about two and a half three hours of each other ten stadiums. Fifteen different teams. All right, all within fifty miles, folks. So if you're a debase ball, if you're into music, if you're having a kick ass time in great weather. Arizona is these spot to be folks Arizona is these visit Arizona dot com slash spring training to line up all of these activities for you in the family Bizet era, Zona dot com slash spring training to get the cactus league in your life. Bucket list type shit. Folks. Sorry that you're not going to be able to get dialed in on the live ABC's, maybe fly it on out to Florida get some grapefruit action in your life. But for now, you're visiting Zona dot com, you're hitting slash spring training. And you're locked in it in for you and the cactus league. Hell, yeah. Endows mentions bucket list. If you're a baseball fan, it is bucket list because it's just like everything is right there, everything for us is obviously different because you know, we got fucking players on the RV. We're just shooting the shit with these guys for me as a baseball fan. That was my pinch yourself trip. It was like, hey, this is your job, dude. Like your fucking roll around going to all these different camps. By the way, you're tore guide through a perfect game in major league baseball. It's it's that's what you like a lot. This guy's our tour guide. And then you just in Kyle free living room his dogs interviewing him this guy. Started the game that ended the cubs season less than a year ago. Scooter Jeanette, a guy that absolutely mashes. He's talking to you about going shoe shop with big cat. So we got a pl- that was that was the other cool thing. Some of these interviews some of the questions some of the dialogue the conversation. Created a spin off to let's do this down the line like Lucas, g alita with the White Sox. We're gonna go down to the g spot. We're going to do a little hair to to'real. He's got some great moss up there. I'm trying to I'm trying to do what he can do scooter Jeanette, he shit all over big cats shoe game. We're gonna go shoe shopping with big cat in cincy. And you're gonna have to listen to that interview because scooter Janette is going to be featuring could be featuring an all time outfit on opening day. So just download that one and get that in you all time outfit. Oh, yeah. Big time, huge huge. So let's get into this contract situation before we hit you with that interview. Which is it's lengthy as are all of the interviews that we've done I think the shortest one was like forty five fifty minutes or something like that. But I would say the average duration of these spikes up tour interview is about an hour and fifteen minutes. Yes. So you will get to enjoy those at your leisure, but Nolan are not oh signs in eight-year own extension. Thirty two point five million is the average annual value of the contract. Two hundred. Sixty million bucks blooded up chicken has. He is now the highest paid player position player by average annual value in baseball history. This is the fourth most lucrative contract in baseball history. Jay had the tweet earlier about the top one hundred contracts in baseball history. The Rockies got five of them five five they know what they want. I love that about a team where it's like, hey, you're our guy. So we are going to compensate you as such in when you get down to the nuts and bolts of the Nolan are not Okon tracked extension. This was not a hometown discount. That was no look at what many McDonnell just got. I'm about to be a free agent at the end of the year. You know, what I'm going to do because I'm consistent. He's forty doubles forty homers three hundred batting average north of nine hundred every year gold glove defense every single year over the last four five. Years all star every single year. So by what sorry platinum glove? So you're now going to approach an off season where you know, every team is going to be like, hey, this is a guy that I can back up the Brinks truck for and the Rockies know that the Rockies know that he is the face of their franchise, regardless of the Charlie Blackmon extension last April and a lot of people were like oh fuck if they gave all that money to Blackman designed me in that they can't afford Nolan are not. Oh, no, no, no. They will not be in that same mindset. So here they are backing up the money truck for a guy that absolutely deserves. It a contract that is one thousand percent fare if he were a free agent this contract extension is more than likely what he's getting as a free agent. Also. So he does have the opt out after the third year. So he can become a free agent by the age of thirty which is a great time to become. A free agent again. So at the very least Rockies fans you have Nolan for the next three years, which is your there's they have a great window to win right now. They do Lauda young talent. What our young talent? They a y'all got a lot of young talent on the mound or. Yeah. J shut up. I think the bullpen if they could figure it out a right? That's dazzling. Get those dudes in that open to perform Jay come on them. Put them all in their pre put them on their platform years before those deals occurred before they moved out to the Rockies. And you tell me that group of men is not a group of men that you can rely on. That's not a group of men that extends your foreskin. It is it is it absolutely is. So sure they didn't perform and you've got what you've got from them. What are they finish what out from LA for sake with with an absentee bullpen? You. Get those starters another year of experience under their Bill handed over to a performing bullpen. You're locking NFL tation type guy in in no one get Jimmy J. I need to you as a sound baseball mind. The. Universally appointed smartest man on this podcast. You see this news, go across your news, ticker. And you your reaction was. I think it's great. I think it's great. I don't think it wasn't surprising because we heard Newt noise about it in the weeks leading up to it. But if you had told me that this would get done at the beginning of the off season. I would have been totally shocked. I don't think anybody was talking about like, I mean, we in some ways this is a mea culpa. I think I've said on the podcast that the Rockies like given their investment in black men and their investment in the bullpen. How are they going to possibly afford to pay Nolan era? Oh with his time comes and they showed that oh, they're very capable of doing that. And investing in other areas of the team and to me like I don't think anybody needs to be told that he's one of the five or ten best position players in the game. I don't there have been plenty of studies done by Mike Petri, low and others about the idea that his home road splits. Are you can't just look at those and say, that's. What he would be outside, of course. Because it doesn't work that way. And I would point you to patriarch article if you're listener and while learn more about that. But so that's okay here. Let me ask you this before we kind of get into some of those or I guess the impact of what this deal, I think has across the league agency. Jay, do you have do you have some numbers? Did you mind some numbers that you that you let me ask you this way has J been in the kitchen cooking up some hot nuts who I got. I got some Knox. Because I've got some numbers. Do I looked at some stuff since two thousand thirteen up until last year? This is where Aeronautique ranks in major league baseball and home runs third one hundred eighty six game started so durability eight hundred sixty four that seventh runs scored he scored five hundred twenty four during that time. That's third in baseball. He's sixth overall with nine hundred seventy five hits two hundred twenty two doubles has him at second three excuse me. Twenty five triples has him sixth in all of baseball. Nobody has more RBI's the Nolan Aaron auto since twenty thirteen at six hundred sixteen slugging. He's tenth five sixty one PS nine thirty five. That's good for ninth in baseball. We're talking about a six time gold glove. Two time platinum Glover four time, silver slugger, four-time all-star. Okay. That's who Nolan Aeronautica is. That's who's manning the hot corner in the Rockies right now. If we're looking at some of the road numbers, I believe only trout Rizzo Stanton and Harper have more road home runs during this time. Than than air. No. He has seventy eight there's very little doubt in my mind that Nolan air. Not oh is a great is a great player. There have been plenty of instances in the past where people have performed at a great clip at Coors and gone onto extremely productive careers and shown marginal drop off if any once they left there like Matt Holliday. I guess is the classic example. Of a player who is a little viewed a little bit skeptically when the cardinals signed him to that deal because he had quote, unquote, hadn't performed for any substantial period of time outside, of course, field any went on to basically post the same numbers. Now also a seven year deal. Yup. And I just think like from baseball perspective, I think this is encouraging in many ways. But let me give you that nugget. I. You guys ready for this? I mean, let me just tell you one thing if you wanna drop a no one hour an auto nugget every podcast, you're more than welcome to do that. I don't know that I've ever going to do better than this one as far as Nolan air. Nado goes he has three seasons with at least three hundred fifty total bases. Okay. Mike Schmidt, George Brett Chipper Jones and Adrian bell trae have three such seasons combined. Void what together all combined all four of them. They have three seasons of three hundred and fifty total bases or more Aaron auto by himself has three. Oh, and you wanna know what? Mike schmidt. I threw in there just to like just kind of make it ridiculous. He has euro. He's guy with. Nothing. Yeah. The consensus greatest third basement of all time, no such luck. Now, obviously, it's not Brooks Schmitz. It's not Brooks. We can debate that separately. But yes. Yeah. Schmidt is the greatest third baseman over all time. I mean, there are reasons for this. No one is the only one to play in cores while I'm confident that he would perform outside. Of course, there's no doubt that it leads to more base hits overall. But I just that was too hot not to share. I mean that was enough. It that's been kind of simmering. That is crispy you. So you made the point jeered thirty two point five av annual average value on on track. That is would you say that as the most lucrative? It is the fourth most lucrative of all time. But it makes him the highest paid positional player by average annual value of all time setting records, just set a record arbitration as well. So before they even Inc. Vis one Nolan was already in a record setting type mood twenty six or seventy six Bill are extra common. Appreciate you, which which is ripped up, by the way. So this. That's. It was just like all right? So here's twenty six million arbitration just kidding. How about an extension that gives you thirty two point five plus that for another seven years beyond that. And I guess the sticking point was another year. And if you're the Rockies who gives a fuck he's probably going to opt out after that third year anyway. So if you want that eighth year, it's like, yes, you're taking. Yeah. That's gonna get you to sign. Okay. That's that's great. That's great Safeway into this question. The strike think do you think that Nolan Aron auto at this point in time right now as far as an established star goes, and I'm thinking about the Machado who just sign them thinking about the Harper who still out there thinking about a guy like masters a Stanton that just signed abuse. Go is he the last guy that could be considered in that monster contract territory that could live up to that monster? No because here's another point that sort of factors into the opt out. Mike, it's going to be a free agent two years. Well, I mean, yeah. So for me like this is what I I have it written down. And I didn't I didn't say it trout is in his own fucking universe. So to Mckee bets is going to be a free agent the same years trout, so that offseason there twenty twenty off season, you're looking at two it depends on who signs I, but you're going to more than likely have your first four hundred dollar four hundred million dollar, man. So I think that if you're if you're Nolan that would be the off season after those to get their deals, and he's gonna be thirty. So is he going to four hundred? No, but we're going to be looking at the average annual values of the trout in Mookie contracts in he might not match those. But I think in terms of what's left on his contract after he ops out if he does opt out he could probably get in total dollars if he signed somewhere else earth even reacts with with the Rockies. You might just be like, hey, you know, chorus field pretty good. I mean, if I if I e ops out, you don't think he opts out. Do you think that the strike plays a factor in whether or not he ops out? I just don't think that I mean, we'll see the way his deal is exactly structured, but let's say that. So that would be what after three full seasons is the out is. So let's say two. Yeah. Let's say he earns ninety million over those three years. So they're still like a hundred seventy million left on the contract over five years. I don't think there's going to be that sort of market for thirty year old all star. I just don't know. That's what we're seeing. That's what we're seeing right now. That's what I was going to say, no one's gonna land this to sixty piece so-so well-deserved. Absolutely. I just don't think the game of baseball is going to entertain a thirty year old Nolan. Erin auto with the split differential that will probably be there. And well in fairness, we don't know because his splits in twenty seventeen. I mean, he's on the road. Yeah. I think I I have to dig up the blog, but I dug deep into the twenty seventeen splits and I compared them to other guys in the league. What's his PS like his? His on the road and seventeen and compared to other guys OPN overall. And he was still a top, Jerry. Remember, don't don't don't don't don't fucking remember pal. You were the one who was telling me. But is sucking is right. But the Hopi peeing on telling you, do you mean to tell me that a two seventy road average. Do you mean to tell me that that type of production is something you're not okay with I think they came down on the heart splits was LeMay, Hugh when he was like when he was hitting whatever it was like three sixty something we looked at the home road and cargo is another guy. I mean, he never sign anywhere else for the rest of his life his numbers cores. He's got like nine seventy cores. It's like six seventy everywhere else. Like, no, one has done a nice job of at least making it. So that when you look at the home road, we're still dealing with an all star, regardless. Of course, the Mayhew the year that he was saying the cover off the ball. It was pretty glaring cargo. It's. Always been pretty glaring Chucky Blackman it varies but Nolan. I think is a guy that it's like if you put him in Texas, he's gonna mash you put him in Yankee Stadium. He's gonna mash like it's just it's the ballpark. But it's the same for everyone. Everyone has their ballparks that they play better in everyone hits well and cores, but you put Nolan in ballpark. X y and z and he's still going to do what he does. Yeah. I mean, you're you're talking about. Yeah. We're talking about the difference between a road opium of like eight fifty eight sixty eight seventy and a thousand or plus a thousand north of thousand at home L, take that guy. All absolutely take that that guy he can play on my team where every once wherever he will. You know, you know, another team that you could probably put him on. I would absolutely love to have him on my fantasy baseball team. I bet you would Betsy would he's probably a keeper though, this would have to be a brand spanking new league for you to even have a chance at having him on your fantasy team. But go ahead. Well, I would probably take it over to Yahoo. Starting nine y'all fantasy baseball. We're we're going to be a thing. It's going to be a thing pitchers. Catchers, folks, they've already reported. We know that we've got Danes going on. Now, it's your turn to get game. Yahu fantasy baseball leagues are now. Open the number one fantasy mobile app is here or you. And it's fantasy baseball on the official fantasy game of the Melby. Check out. Yahoo. Pro leaks public leagues where you can play for cash. And again, the best part is y'all who handles all the loot for, you know, Commissioner none of that bullshit by in first little as twenty bucks or as much as g you gotta rack late around that asked hacking, savannah, see how you can also join a public league for free. Create your only with your homies doesn't matter flex your skills though, bro. This is your opportunity trust your instincts trust your gut throw that calculator out. And let's go let's go down. Hello the fantasy app right now. Sign up yahu dot com slash fantasy baseball. Do not miss this monster opportunity during this Munster baseball season. There has never ever been a better time to play folks. Get it in you. Yeah. I'm if we start clean if we start clean with like a starting nine fantasy baseball league. It's like, let's let's start a project that top five would would are not obese top five draft pick in our league is all right. Let me ask you a question. Yeah. Probably doesn't matter for air. Nado, actually. Yeah. This. But would it be a keeper league? Or would it be a one and done league? Let's let's just say for the let's just say it's a it's a one and done because if it's a keeper league, then we'd have to make up the rules for what tears and all that. You'll get one keeper. And that's like you get to keep a guy from the eighth round on the twelfth round on. So this guy who came out of nowhere. What I would to answer the question then. Yes, he would be a top five pick. Okay. Where in that top five? Ooh. I mean, trout Traore trout, still my number one route movie. Yeah. I think I think well, I think I think air Nado is in the conversation starting at number two. I'm not sure I'd take him there. But I think you you could be justified doing so I think I'd have Mukhi as my number two. Then I don't know, man. I think it might be Aaron auto would you take scoring not over pregnant scoring format impacts this decision making greatly in my opinion. I think I would take over bregman. Yeah. Erno is is as close to a fantasy lock as you can get. I would agree but see they like recounting stolen bases bregman talking. I would assume. I'm doing I'm assuming a basic fantasy structure here were stolen bases have real value and stuff like that. So yeah. Bregman would bring more there. But like if you're telling me, I can lock in thirty five and one ten with a nine hundred plus oh Pius into it. Yeah. Like, that's a decent. That's decent get at three or four or five. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Is we're gonna find out. We're going to find out where these guys fall in our Yahoo fantasy baseball league. But we've we've hyped it up enough. We've talked about it enough. We'll let the the interview speak for it self. It's starting nine. It's no one are not oh are pats have crossed here. It is Nolan. I are not on the spikes up tour RV with us. This is a big one bit one way for this one for a long time, souljah platinum type moments guy, my favorite if not my favorite. I'll be honest. Giancarlo Stanton was my favorite that. He's Yankee can't be no one hour. Not oh slides, right? Into the top spot for favorite baseball player. Active in the league right now. It is a pleasure to be sitting next to you, sir. Thank you, man. I appreciate this is that we've been waiting a long time for we actually in terms of like active players. It's you it's Joey Votto non-active it's like Griffey bonds on that's a good one. I appreciate aside site. Yeah. So, you know, this is your guy right now that we can put the superstar label on you for for what your total package is talk about because you are one of the best. If not the best defensively at your position how much pride do you take in your defense because you're a guy that can go out there and mash forty homers and growing up watching nineties and early two thousands baseball. The guys who are mashing forty homers did not give a fuck about defaced. You know what I'm saying about? Talk about like being so well rounded. Yeah. I think I think it's just a matter of taking pride in both. You know, I think for me growing up with guys like to the whiskey and stuff like that. He always used to preach to me. Like, you gotta be both. You can't be one sided, you know, you won't last long in this game. He used to totally preach that all the time to me. And it kind of stuck with me because I was it was right? You know, I didn't want to. I don't want to be able to let up somewhere. I don't wanna be that guy. We gotta find a position for him. You know what I mean? So little things like that. I was kind of like, I took the heart. I don't know. Why just kinda hit me hard? It was like, man. I don't wanna be like that. So it was too little guy that you definitely either you gravitated towards or he took you under the wing. However that transpired was. But he was a guy that sort of health instill that kind of mindset. Yeah. So I think it was more. I mean, he kind of put me under his wing for sure. But I I gravitated toward him. You know, he was always getting on me. I mean, he would shoot me out. Call me out. But like I kind of pre she'd lazy. Exactly, I was overweight and stuff like that. So he would give me a hard time all the time. So he did help me. But I I really appreciate because I knew care. Sure. So do you. Now, find yourself being that guy you you're now the too low when they're younger guys that are coming in. And you're the guy that gets on them for for certain things. Yeah. You know? I try not to I'm not a big yelling guy. I'm more of like men like I'll talk to like I'll talk to these young kids about the game. Anytime, you know, time of the day. I think nowadays it's more of a got a it's a little different. Now, you know nowadays, you kind of have to cut them. But you got to like, you know, you gotta be hey, man. I'm here for you. If you need me, I mean, we're back in the day was like you got to earn it here. You gotta make sure you're into giving close to talk into Todd hell for me. You know, I didn't wanna bother Todd. Yeah. So now, we're no question about hitting let me know or whatever because I'm trying to win ballgames. Those kids are gonna help me out. Is that is that where this is going right now, I love to hear this. There's a couple of guys sort of echoed the same sentiment. And I believe I always kind of lead towards the Saint Louis cardinals. When I say this talk about this the difference between being brought up to the big leagues. And brought in the cardinals the cardinal women. They bring guys into that fold has been a big proponent of that. And he's echoed the same things you you have said just now. So I like to hear that is that where this game is going is that the best way to handle some of these kids that are coming up now that have done the travel ball cycle that they know only one speed all baseball all the time. Is that the way to sort of go about that? I think there's certain guys, you know, it's I think it all starts getting to know someone, you know, if you don't know how the guy is then, you know, then you're not going how to react to them how to treat them. But I think at the same time you've got to have tough love with some of them, which we have a group veterans that do that. You know what I mean? But there's a time to bring him in and be like man, we need. You. Let's go let's clean this up and stuff like that. And I think it helps us out. I mean, we have some young guys on our team that have really stepped up really good job because they feel comfortable talking to us in like playing their game. They don't feel like they gotta like got perform these guys aren't talking to exactly. Yes. You're we're just talking to you. Now, you're pretty calm guy. You've had some tense moments. Yes. Yeah. The the walk off with the blood on the face that charge in the Mau, where do you sort of told me that picture? Hey in your house. Balkan maniacal. Three hundred. When when do you find that? It's most useful. Because here's a question that I've been meaning to ask a lot of a lot of guys that I haven't asked walk up music. Some guys want that intense shit some guys won't like the country music relax going up to the plate. Like where are you on that? I'm on a play Travis Scott my walk out for years and just bombs. It's lousy. Yeah. That's what I need. I need I need intensity. I think when the game starts that's kinda. Hi, I'm kind of intense. And I don't know. I just gotta turn. You gotta be a different person, you know. And I try to be that way on the field. But definitely you know when I'm away from the field. I try to just be normal. Enjoy my life. You know, enjoy hanging out with people, but the game starts. You have to be a different person. Yeah. Travis Scott bumping off the field as well. So it is. Okay. What is what is keeping you? Because I know you go through spring training. And there's things that you gotta do to keep yourself. Ok keep yourself healthy. But you're still transitioning back into that everyday flow that you're going to have coming. Find yourself in the middle of the season. Maybe there's an effort to get away from the game during an off air whatever how does Nolan or not oh get away from the game. And relax if that's the thing. Yeah. I think I try to. I golf once in a while. I try not to do it during the season during the season. I'll either get a massage go hang out, go workout or something just kinda sweat. I've had those moments where I've binge-watching Arcos. Watch the second one Mexico on a real guy. I haven't got I watched a little I know you got to. I I started watching it this off season for the fifth time. So I turned it onto him. This time you need to dad loves it too. I am bull's team. Did it in a big anti-big? Oh my God. All I know that offseason this off season all locked in on that one. But try to watch those. But sometimes when I like, you guys know when you lay in bed all day and the next day your little largest, right? So I hate going to the ballpark like that. So I always try to find a way to move around walk around the city, we're on the road, and we'll go to the mall. Okay. You know in New York or wherever just walk around the town, you know, city or travel Travelgate around. Yeah. A little bit. You know? I'm not a big like, you know, checking things or like, oh, wow. I need to go. See this place mean Washington brochure. You know, you go to the link. That's awesome. That's awesome jerk. Got tackled on the grass of the Washington Monument. Really? Yeah. We're doing like we're doing like a skit video and one of the parts of the video. We asked this random, dude. Like, yeah. You know, just just tackle me. And he lit me. There was no not like WWE like our just going to make it look like, he's he, you know, he basically was like I've been waiting since high school to do this. Again, finally got that call the next day and all that go faster than him. So. While you're about DC, though, that was pretty bad ass. And we went and saw all the stuff in DC on the bikes at like, two o'clock in the morning. Oh, that's all. You have the whole city to yourself. It was awesome roads. Eddie, that's one of them. Boston's one of them love the food there New York, Chicago Chicago's fantastic. It's it's a point. You just brought up we've asked this, and it's a consensus. It's a resounding concensus best park to grub at visiting side who right now period period like this right now for me is the best Atlanta. This new visiting locker room is ridiculous really be to SunTrust. This is definitely something. It is. It's huge. It's it's like just as big as a home run. If it's like, the food is unbelievable chess back their TV's like everywhere. It's stadium. Yeah. That's I mean, that's I mean, you're trying to say his mouth. Simply asked him to pick that in twenty fifteen. I think it was twenty sixteen. We went back. We went to New York for the first time there, and it was like a eight Weitz bacon Turkey bacon, Sasha's Turkey. So I'm like, oh my gosh. Yeah. It was ridiculous. I've never seen anything like this in my life. It was the most fun decent. I've seen it is for the child in their offer. So I gotta ask you about the world baseball classic. Because the guys that played in that, especially when team USA actually one I feel like that experience has to be unlike anything that you've ever had is not even just a professional baseball players baseball player in general. What did you sort of take out of that? Well, first of all I played terrible. And I played terrible during that whole thing. But it was so much fun. Because those guys just picked me up, man. And that's like, that's we know you're on a good team. When guys are actually picking you up constantly. And that's what those guys were doing Jones with one of the best catches I've ever seen in my life was raking Kinser was hit raking. I mean, these guys were all yelich. Yeah. It was it was so much fun, man. I mean, these guys were were great. But it was still. I mean, he's the building in San Diego. Raking as bad as play was seriously, one of the best times in my life. And you know, when you play bad, you know, it's not really that. It doesn't really become that fun anymore. So so when so when I was struggling, and I was still having one of the best time in my life. That's when you know, it was real and legit. But just watching how guys go about their business every day. And you know, you understand why they're so good. You know, so it's like it's like an all store setting. But it's a totally different venue. Totally different feel right? You're talking about like, obviously, you have knowledge that you didn't perform the way you wanted to the way that you expect from yourself, and that's understandable. But the feeling that you know, what this is for something for greater than myself. And there's another ring at the end of this. There's a lot of pride. Yeah. Sure. There's a title that goes with it. But talk about what that's like having that sort of feeling with another group of big league all star caliber players taking you back to sort of that literally feeling where over four doesn't matter we've one and I'm going to get in line for my free hotdog and soda. No, exactly, I think, you know, just it was crazy just being on teams with these guys because you're play we play against guys all the time. And then being with them. They're awesome. And it was like, you know, you lower your guard with them. And like you said it was one goal to win, you know. And I will say this. You know, what I might about Dominicans and Puerto Ricans and Venezuelans and all that they're always proud about the repping countries. I love sleeves and all that. And I admire that about them, and it was really cool to just like win. You know, beat all of them and then represent America. Yeah. Those flags. I feel like nobody wants to talk about America the greatest country of all time and just ripping off champs. I love the fact that that venue that it sets up the idea that you know, what we can get over the teen colors national pride. Yeah. Look, I'm not getting tapped never getting tapped to make that squad to perform for country. I have a just irregular Nana pride when you guys run out. There strapped it on the back with the flag on your back. So I mean from coast to coast man, no that we as players who aren't there with you love every. Yeah. You're representing everyone representing everyone. You know? It's you know, when we went to the cause that year we've seventeen went to the wildcard game is a dime bags we lost. And when you're with a group like is for six months, eight months going to that Walker came out a lot to us. You know? I mean, you know, obviously, you're, you know, winning the world baseball 'cause you're only with them for maybe a month. You know what I mean? So you don't it doesn't feel as connected, but how big America is and the pressure and everything I mean, it felt like you're with those guys forever. So I'm forever grateful for every one of them. So when I always see them was like, man, you're nasty. Then who did you walk out of there going? Wow, fucking weirdo or guys guys. Exactly how I thought. He would be an obviously, you know, like, we're not talking about in a bad way. Because you you meet those dudes in like, you said it's cool to watch them go about their business. But I was always interested in that. Like, we get into player over whatever. Like, what's this guy? Like, yeah, I say it will Marcus roaming, works extremely harsh. And he he loves the talk. And I love him. I loved him. It was it was great. He was great. He was intense staring down there, you know, because forte Puerto Rico was like running over the mound on doing some things. And he was just staring them down, and he just kept competing, and he was unbelievable. So that was awesome. But Andrew Miller really impressed me he gave up a home or to Dominican Nelson Cruz, you know, when we lost that game, and the loudest place I've ever been in in my life still to this day and right after that game in the weight room getting after it working hard finding a way to get better the next day. Like, I don't know. I just had mired that you know, because a lot of guys I want to just get out of lock go home. He was still getting after it. And that's just something I admire what was what was it like to play under Jim Leyland awesome. I mean, he was my manager for what two and a half weeks whatever and he's like going. He's he's already going down as one of the best, man. He was intense. And you know, just he gave he gave them some speeches to us that like just I mean, got your blood flow. And it was like water was he was he was getting teary eyed talking to us, and that was just he was just his fire and his energy. And he was it was awesome. And I don't want to bring this up in a negative light. But there was there was issues with guys, you know, they're roster availability, you know, they wanted to be there couldn't be there or whatever. And he just feel that from him. Like, you know, he was already like auto wanted stoops's guys at be her and it's like yo- Jimmy. Yeah. I was a speech that was the streets. On that team wanted to be there minute of every day. And while that's not possible. It was good to see Jimmy because he's dude in you already. You you. Yeah. And he's school, you know. And I think it's he's he has that old school mentality. And you know, you know, how it is. It's just different. You know, I think with the way people McManus now it's different than with how they were back in the day. So he was really connected to us. You know in the locker room with us talking to come into the film or stretching just cool stuff. Like that was just for like two weeks. He's not coming back for anything else. In america. Right. That's right. Earlier. I said, you're you're a bona fide superstar does it irritate you. When people try to take away from that. Because the chorus field affect I think a little bit. But at times, I I don't even care anymore. Man. You know, I think I've heard it for a while now. And you know, I don't know what to tell you. I think people like I said I've said this before people to understand is going on the road after you play at home is the movement is it's just a lot more drastic. And it makes it harder to hit on the road. There's no question that I struggled on the road last year, which I didn't like but the year before I played really well. And you know, it's just it's just part of it. I think cycles Mansi baseball is just like that. But you listen, I play course, a great place hit there. There's no question about it. And I love it, man. I love when I hit balls that go out that should go out. And I don't like going to San Fran when I hit those should go out and the. Exactly. So what's what's what's the most interesting conversation that you've had with an opposing player standing at their base when they're on the back. Man, change or anything like that. No. I don't know. You know, I I've had some interesting ones. But for the most part, nothing crazy. I think Jason worth was pretty funny. He was always just making noises and stuff and stuff. But I was in Meyer that he was always really cool to me. But honestly, joy bottles. Awesome. Talking about the game hitting like that one day. He was asking me about how I dive. And my man, I don't know. I just dive I loved the way dive. And I'm like, I say about it. Thanks, man. But you know, he's he's awesome. Honestly, I try to I try not to talk to a lot of people. Right. But there's guys I have to pick their brain Bado. You know, I don't know who else prince Villers been over there. I want to pick their brain about hitting right? I wanna ask you about young kid that I'm getting to know on a personal level as well as a player level. Matt chapman. Yeah. Platinum over there in the ale to. Because on the same folk and high school squad. Yeah. Like was it just you and him on the left side? And like, we don't even need it outfielder because they'll probably burn. What what is that light? Because you've been very humble in your assessment of match happen. And I have been very vocal about Maya segment of match Chapman hands down the best third baseman in the American League potentially in all of baseball. And I throw that word out there because there's only one individual that even takes pause for me. And that's you that prevents that just in fairness Machado in the conversation. The conversation shows he is shifts back there. Play. But what is it like seeing him sort of start to come into his own as well knowing where you guys came from together. Like you've been here you've established yourself clearly. And now you're watching that kind of unfold before you knowing where he came from his is that cool like a sense of lineage from where you guys came from where you are now. Yeah. Well, I I he we didn't start together. So he was my backup shore sought sorry about. Yeah. How high school goes if you're a senior yours it is what it is. You know, you don't even have to be the best player. If you're the senior. That's kinda how it is. And we had a good team though, we were like top five in the nation. One point like we had a good senior class. So he had to wait a little bit. But there's I mean he could've played anywhere. But you know, coach the team already, but you know, when I pitched Oregon trouble for throwing my home it would play when you play. So that's how it usually went down. And so whenever pitch he was always short. So that's how it worked. But it's pretty watching. It's pretty amazing to watch him play. Because he does some special things out there. I Meyer his game. I think he's only gonna get better. And I mean, I mean, he's so strong, and he's got such a strong arm. I mean, he makes throws man, I need at a couple of steps in mind. Make those throws, you know, I gotta get out a little bit quicker. But you know, what I he's definitely one of the better ones out there. And he has a chance to be the best for sure. Correct me if I'm wrong, you're not on social media. I'm not at all that is so smart like, that's so smart. Yes. It just you don't it's. It's it's it's it sucks. Kinda guy though to be able to cut that world. Need? It doesn't need certain guys needs to market themselves in brand themselves. Or if you're you're an okay player, you're decent enough. It's like well. I need my purse, I need to extend my personality to get commercials or whatever I don't need them, man. You know, I think I think social media could be a trap. Yeah. She allowed people get in trouble with it. You see a lot of negative things on it. I mean, shoot people are his a lot of things on it. You know, people talk a lot of trash on there. And they wouldn't say those things to your face. I don't need that stuff. And I don't need to be posting pictures with my family and someone tell me about my home moms, ugly or something in my life. I don't need to deal with us though. Because then I'll start deeming people, right? And find out he's twelve year old kids. I don't need that. No, I don't need that man. I I feel that peace just not having to deal with those things and the focus on things. What's the worst chirp you've ever gotten in a road ballpark? Atlanta was hey cups, a little smaller honky. Real bad, my rookie year, my rookie year, and I was just kind of like trying to fix that. Going on. Yeah. Was over two. And I'm like, this is the worst day of my life. So it was a terrible time. I want her. Yeah. I yeah. Especially the rookie. Lewin secure. So right now, it's it's a universal opinion that it's the worst time to be a hitter. Everyone's blowing ninety six you get to the bullpens it's ninety seven ninety eight what type of preparation are you taking with video or whatever to make it. Look so easy. Yeah. I think I I wanna know movement Oz. I wanted to be low in movement. I think those are really important to me spin right to. I mean, those guys I mean guys now they're throwing eighty eight to ninety that feels like ninety four lost zone. And it's crazy, man. It's crazy how they develop it like that. But I wanna know movement be low. I always do my homework on what I'm gonna do like who am I gonna face and all those things, but at the same time, I try not to buy into too much. I I like to trust myself. I I mean when these guys doing that hard you all you can do is trust. What you right? So you know, I go up there. And I try to have a plan, and I'm trying to get the ball up and hit hard, and that's all I'm focusing. How are you utilizing measurements technology? Things of that nature stuff. Some of the stuff you just touched on on the pitcher side. How are you using some of these newfangled instruments to better yourself? Are you using them are you implementing them when they talk about? Because the first word that comes out of a lot of people's mouths to a hitter asking this is launch angle. But that's just a word. And if you don't understand what you're asking. I feel like you end up sounding like a dumb ass asking. So what are you doing to try to assess an analyze yourself with the technology that is starting to make its way into the game. And do you find value in it for yourself? Yeah. Absolutely. You know, I think I like to watch like I do a lot of video on my side. My swing on the sides like watch every every couple of days. I try to do it. You know? I try not to do it everyday personally for me. I just I don't wanna get caught into tinkering this and this and that because if I feel good I feel good, right? You've got to trust it like I like what I feel, but I'm definitely paying attention to little things. Now, more than I ever have. I think it's something to keep away because I've gone last year I've gone through some big slump. And you know, you have video of your swings. And that's what I try to focus on. But it's just a good. Keep like on it. You know, I heard you AD Mookie pass these guys do it every day. And look what they're doing. You know? So I'm like, man, if those I mean, these guys are hitting this level, and I wanna get I wanna be like that too. So I'm learning, you know, I'm trying to adapt to different things. But at the same time being myself while I'm doing it owns a freak. Yeah. He's amazing. He records his BP. What he he watches tape on? Yeah. I've heard that in and I love that. And I don't know if I could do it every day because it's not me. But I definitely got to do it a little bit once in a while now because I really got make sure and focus on these little things that you know, these little things become big things. What is your favorite defensive drill to prepare yourself for the game? Because in your routine, you have x y and z these things need to be hit grumbles to the left grumbles to the right throws on the run coming in and charging balls bare hand plays. And then you're probably done whatever it may be. This is something that no. No one has to do and Nolan does every day out in the field before the game. Yeah. What is that? Because little kids. Listen to the. Trying to go ply them to sure. Well, I take rambles on the back of the grass okay to start. I like to like throw across the from there. I feel like when I do it from there. And I go in the game. I'm not throwing from the back in the middle. And it's it feels like it's super easy. I don't have to like put so much on it because I've been working on it from back there all day earlier. So it's just kind of like just fling it over there. Now, that's my job. That's what I like to do. I do twenty at me. And then I'm, you know, side five five five at the Ryan. Then I go double plays right on me. Again, forehand backhand. You know? I go back to the back. And then I just home that's hard as. Let me just remind myself that hey, don't, you know? I don't want to create the habit of just make sure that you've got this ready just to remind just a reminder. So I think it's more of a and move your feet these kids, I think these kids they'll get caught not moving their feet anymore. Can you explain fielding ground balls with your feet? Yeah. Can you explain that is I try I have I can explain it. It it's going to sound so much better coming in. Explain to the people. What that actually means why that's important. It's shuffle. It's not crossing the feet. You know when kids like they like go like that. That's you get in trouble there. It's it's shuffling the feet toward the bag. It's easy on your arm helps your arm out, and you have more on it. And it's an easier throw. I think kids sometimes kinda just go. And yet they're on the there's only guys there's enough. You guys can do that. If Matt Chapman is one of them. And I don't know who the other guy is. But I don't even know around. I don't even know around like that, you know, unless the rush, and it's like d Gordon run or something. But you know, I try to shuffle my feet constantly it makes you know, because a long season you're gonna be sore like my arm my arm last year a little bit. My surely all those sore because I wasn't moving my feet. And so if I could just preacher those kids as costly move your feet toward the base and where you're going. I think it's gonna really help him out cross country flight five and a half hours. What two movies you pick it a pastime? Ooh. Wow. Django Django on this. Quentin Tarantino like. Roese fiction a couple of days ago, but good Django for sure. And then I gotta go to my favorite move all time goodfellas. Okay. Yeah. Pick and and those movies will by the time those movies and be back. Long movie. Yeah. So on the flight over here, I was flipping through the thing. And I was like it should be mandatory that Titanic is on like all these. Three hours. It was it was hell. Yeah. James cameron. Talk about the the atmosphere at cores during a playoff game because they get loud. I feel like Rockies fans don't get enough credit for their passion for baseball. But when it's time to show up and the lights are on they show up. Yeah. No. It gets. It gets really loud. I mean, I mean, the one came we had a home we got killed by the brewers, and we. And we got really loud. And then it got to boo boos and got quiet, but but I will say leading up to the the playoffs coop before we flew to LA that one sixty two or three we played the Washington nationals, and it was loud, man. It was so loud. And I mean, it makes it huge difference. Man. That's how you win. I mean the crowd plays a factor in the wins. There's no question. I think people really take that for granted. But it's obsolete. Truth. Pittsburgh was it the Pittsburgh wildcard game where they were just they absolutely rattled someone in a wildcard game. I forget who it was fourteen way. Too was quite old Cueto Quayle. Cincinnati. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, it gets louder and cores and fans are really into it, man. And it's been so much better. We were me, and my brother, and my cousins, we were watching old rocky games on YouTube like old homers. I don't know why just because we were bored. So we're watching some homers pretty cool YouTube video. Know, it is a bunch, and we don't have that many fans there. So. Yeah. In those games, you know, man. That's it wasn't that long ago. So it just shows where we how far we've come. You know, we're winning ball games in the fans are really paying attention. So it's been really cool. What was your? I'll Hamam Oma got him in the big leagues. Holy shit bigwigs. And and I talked to this. I asked this question to some of the guys, you know, younger guys, and it could be a number of things that that trigger that response or that that kind of click that memory was it on the field. Was it just seen a guy in person? When did you realize? Oh my God. I'm in the big leagues. Yeah. This is nuts. I haven't three times. One time was my first game in LA. And I was looking at the stadiums dodge teams big it's a big step sells like oh my God. I can't believe here in the AJ. Let's hit like a sly cutter through my legs right after I was like, oh my God here. And then boom cutter I missed I know my old God. Oh my God. I'm I'm trouble here. That was one of my crazy moment San Fran. How it was angel gone inside the park home now. Because it was sold out him. I this is the loudest I've ever been. And then it was in Boston just playing in Boston and seeing the green monster be in like just being there. And I was like I can't believe I'm here. Go did you go into the monster? I did I went in there. I signed a San Ted Williams. Big Homer out there out there. Coming up a lot. Do you think he actually hit it? Do that's for man. I don't know straight up. I'd call them a liar. Bullshit. I mean people from back in the day always say that the would we get now his way better than what they had in this and that and or guys nowadays. Right. So I don't know. Ortiz went there with a metal bat and didn't reach it straight up didn't. Yeah. I mean, it's a great. It's a great story story is fictional. Hey. I don't wanna make anyone Matt. So whoever Choo true. But I don't know about that one. Who's your favorite baseball player growing up? Sean green dodgers. He's hit homers. And then he's he's give about and go away all the time. So yeah, I used to love that guy. Shawn green Adrian bell. Trey and Matt Holliday actually was those are like my main three how old are you in two thousand four thousand four. Yeah. That was his best year ever in LA. Yeah. I remember. I remember. Four graduating. Oh, nine so. I don't know yet. It's well. Yeah. Matt Holliday feats of strength stories because when Maddie came over to Oakland. I always tell the story the trainer handed him, the grip strength tester. And he just kind of looked at. It was like I'm gonna all break it and the trainer was like come on. But he's gonna go like come on. Don't just shoot me away. Like, I'm gonna break it. Let's find grab it broke it and just like headed about to hear I told you. And I'm standing there. Yeah. Dude. He's strong St. strong. Actually, he's actually in great shape. Too leaned out. I just love to swing. I try to always my fall through is kind of like mimic his because he's always stayed through. Yeah. So I got to do that. I'm a little different. But I do I try to do it like him for sure that was kind of like my guy when you came on the bus. You knew I was a Red Sox fan. Does. That mean that you're also barstool fan. Yeah. Man. You know, I think you guys are great. Well, you know, we always mess around. You know, I'll tell you funny story we whenever we hit me and my cousin my brother, we always do a little game. Where like we'll play like a competition. Yeah. Three outs. You know, you know, how to BP throw. Hey, we'll see scores. Most runs whatever. And then one time, you know, making the ninth inning. And I messed around. I'm always my cousin. Always does this. He's always like all right once wing. Everyone knows a real. We we do that. We like the pizza thing, you know. So we always joke around stuff like that. So guy like you, obviously like you use your so conceal. Your numbers are consistent and they're consistently. Great. So when they're consistently great. Is there anything that you can even say like I need to make an adjustment going into new season? Or is it just need to do what I did last year to get back to where I was lashing. No that there's definitely things I want to get better at for. Sure. I think it's quality of about. I think it's offset wanted be better on the road again. And then I think it's just being more consistent up there. You know, I've got a lot last year. And I don't like doing that. But you know, there's guys that are hitting three thirty. And I think everyone's goal is hit wanted three hundred thirty one hundred. I mean, but those are, you know, I truly believe my heart those can be realistic goals, and I'm trying to do it. Those aren't my goals. But you know, those are things you always dry for. So definitely there's definitely room to get better. And I definitely to be better on defense. My goes always make ten or less airs and made fifteen last year. So got clean it up. I feel like. Already know the answer to this question you being in NFL guy. I'm gonna ask you who has the nastiest shit that you've faced I feel like I know the answer this question. I'm curious to what you think. Wow. In the National League for no. I'm just saying, I don't know. Yeah. In like is Noah. He is pretty good. Yeah. He is nasty. He's good pitcher Corey kluber was in seventeen was was a tough about. That was crazy. Yeah. It's hard. I don't know. You know, I think Walker Bula got some really good stuff. He's a tough one. But you know, what man honestly, everyone of these guys. Now, it's it's just is what it is. But it comes with it. And was that where you just you know, you you took one look in or you just missed it by two feet and walk back to the dugout almost like laughing at yourself now is just ridiculous. No. You know, I'm not I don't know. I feel confident every bad. So I don't really go. Yeah. I mean, the guy. These guys are nasty for sure. But no, I mean, I never go back saying like, well, you just dominant. You know, I I guess that's just like just being a baby. Maybe just. Yeah. That's kind of what I do sometimes. But you know, when my and my rookie year Belisario ninety six senior sue say Ryan, my hands. And I was getting so jammed that year my thumbs were killing me, I'm serious on. I was just like I I remember just being like I do not wanna hit right now. And I jammed in my thumbs were killing was like this is why didn't wanna hit. So I that's what I remember my rookie year for sure something like that was just the moment. I was like I really don't wanna go up there right now. Yeah. We talked earlier about your influence on guys in the club. Hosts who's the guy in the Rockies club owes that keeps everything loose. Well, we got Mark Reynolds. Back e always keeps lose. Yeah. He's great for us. We could do a split, right? Just do. I like nuts to the ground. Yeah. He's cargo was always that guy for us drought apar-. Yeah. They're not here in the more. Which is sad for us because. Yeah, come back. Yeah. Tim wakefield. All right. We'll give you one year deal. Give you one year. Numbers at cores are like. Like, I was disappointed when cargo left obviously, lived Oakland myself. He's going to Colorado. I was watching shit. Yeah. Yeah. Just discussed. The other day. Like you walked out of the creative player mold like just super swaggie just dropping deck. The left side does go get it in the out. It was five player. He was awesome. And he's still got big time. Pob? I mean, we would love for having back. You know? He's awesome. But you know, I think got Murphy now in Desmond keeps things lose. I mean, we got a good collective group and Saul pitchers, and I it's easy to keep those around there from afar just standing in watching being a witness kind of having a ticket to it. Every night talk about the run that story went on. Oh, just. Yeah. Pro everywhere just smashing, and you know, the young guy, you know, he's like he's probably thinking to myself games pres this one on a lock. What's? Yeah. Dominate. Yeah. It was amazing to watch. Honestly because it wasn't just one way. Right. Backside homers poolside Homer centerfield homers defense stealing bases. I mean, I think he was only a couple of bags from thirty thirty. I mean, and it was amazing to watch. And it just the transformation from seventeen to eighteen for him was crazy because you know, seventeen struggled, you know, there's a book on him sixteen. You had a great year got hurt seventeen. Everyone expected. You know? I don't think there's pressure on them. I think it's just one of those years. You know, there's a tough year and then eighteen man just a different do just totally in his own. I mean, pitches our nasty he was just getting to like and bombs like they weren't even like, they weren't wall scraper authority. Yeah. With Lord getting to shit that you're like trying to lay off that at more like trying hit like a base it up middle going backside homers, and I'm like, dude. What is I mean? It was crazy, man. But it was it was so much fun to watch. I mean, he carried us at the end there for a little while. So it was huge. We just saw which just saw Morial Rivera become the first player. To get one hundred percent total induction into the hall. Who's going to be the next one the next the next one hundred percent the next since consensus like he's the guy. Yeah. Is he already retired is the guy playing right now? And why do you think we would or would not see? Man. I said jeeter I think some people are gonna kinda give him a hard time about, you know, just because he didn't have bunch of homers or something. I don't know. I think Kershaw will. He'll be one. I think I mean, I I don't think you can argue numbers. And you know, I think when it's also done he'll go down as the best pitcher generation or baseball. You know? So I think he'll be a hundred. I mean, whoever doesn't vote for him. It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. Why why wouldn't you from? But you know, honestly right now. I mean, I don't know who's I mean, I don't know too many guys. I mean, I know like Barry Bonds and always guys out there today. They didn't get it. But I don't know my special player. I mean, he did some special things. So yeah, it's nothing that he got. But it was awesome. Man. He's a good dude from what I don't know personally about things about so few times great things about we asked the as this question. You know, obviously just talking about Mariana Rivera if you could step in the box to see one pitcher in baseball history. Not to be like, yeah. Like, I could take him deep. But just just to see what it looks like who's that guy while? Kitchen sink, a whole repertoire everything. Roger clements. Yeah. 'cause he was nasty. He'd be Pedro Martinez. Yeah. I think Pedro for sure when he was in Boston kinda like, you know, you know, just nasty stuff. And then he'll come out your head once in a while. You comfortable seven. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I think that'd be he'd be amazing. I don't remember what year it was. It was like ninety nine or two thousand somewhere in there. Peter gammons was trying to do a story going around asking players who has the best fastball. Who has the best changeup? Who has the best curb all and then he scrapped the whole peace because he was like everyone said Pedro for every really? Yeah. Greg Maddux one too because it wasn't high v low. It was just like the movement would be crazy to think at the ball pops waste. So that'd be crazy to wants to being in that lineup with other guys like Chucky black men, and you have cargo when he's their story. Does that sort of take the pressure off you 'cause you are the guy, but you don't have to like no one's looking at you like please Nolan carry us to the promised land. Because there are guys at mashing that line. Does that take pressure off you knowing that the guys behind me and in front of me are going to be doing just as well? Yeah. I think so I mean, I I put enough pressure on myself let I wanna be the guy even if I have very bonds, and these guys I still wanna be the guy too. So. You know, I have a job to do. And I want to do it at a high level and do best. I can so, but it is nice to know that I had that protection there too. You know, Danny Murphy story, Charlie dolls ACI becoming a dude. You know, we got some guys, you know. So definitely it makes life easier that I don't have to stress about these at bats. And I think that helps but I definitely want to be the guy every time. Do you think that there was a double standard last year because everyone wants to take away from the Rockies hitters because of course field. But then the Rockies pitchers last year did a tremendous job. But everyone's like, you know. Yeah, they're doing. This course field like whereas whereas their extra love like there's an element of that. I know I agree. I mean if you're gonna dog the hitters. Yeah. And you have to book how freely at the top. I mean, you know, it's I mean come on with the Graham did was ridiculous. You can't. I mean, you definitely I mean he deserves the Cy Young Freeman deserved to be right up there. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. A little bit more than what he had. I believe. And then what you're Marquez. Yeah. He's nasty to. I mean, people who understand how good this guy is he he's he's got some nasty stuff. But you know, I think freelance deserves a little bit more credit. I just you know, it's just one of those years where you went up against the guy that did historic stuff. So we by the time this interview with you airs Kyle would not have heard this going to place later. So what what's a question that? We can ask him. That would be like how the fuck did you know that? Let me think of something. I mean, he I don't know something about is hitting. He was brutal last year. And he's got a good swing? But he was awful. So you can say something about a swing. But whereas golf swing. We played a little skins match last week, and I t shot on the T when just like fifty feet about that little pop up. His I I I. A whole. Through your mind when you normally just can't hit pass the ladies box. Like what's going on? Say to hit that fifty yarder hundred fifteen at mount shadows that go and he'll he'll be like, oh we Nolan. From their part from there before. Yeah. Yeah. If you had to pick a second sport. What would it be? I say golf, you know, it used to be basketball 'cause I love basketball and all the celebs at every game. That's sick. And eight teams make the playoffs which is like. I mean, that's that's my love baseball was like that. That'd be fantastic. But I mean eighteen make the playoffs. It's crazy. So be cool. Pretty cool. But I've been watching a lot of tiger videos. Big putts Vic shots. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Man. Still before we let you go one question. We like to ask each everybody that we have here if we can take you back in hot tub time machine any moment in baseball history that you can bear witness to what would it be? And why wow. It's either going to be. Man, that's tough. When asked to be that those Yankee Red Sox rivalries for me. Personally. I think just watching a-rod you got jeeter on the team got Roger Clemens going against Manny, big Papi. I mean, I think Pedro Martinez was huge. Aerotech? Yeah. The third baseman is Miller smell like. Yeah. They were still Miller. We have we have Millar. There's all those millions. It was crazy. And I would love to be like a part of a part of it or like in the locker room seeing how these guys were acting. You know, that that was crazy that was. Can there's. We'll talk about twenty Nolan are not thank you so much for coming on. But you don't need it. Thanks, guys. Thank you. And there you have it. I mean, he's he's obviously not coming to the Red Sox twenty twenty. But he could he couldn't twenty twenty three. So we're not gonna rule it out. You never know. I cannot believe I bore witness to that. I can't believe it. I'm not calling on command. I'm just saying if Manfred calls me jured honesty's the best policy. Yeah. Yeah. It's. It was tampering. But I mean, I would if Nolan are not oh up with the Red Sox in three years, and I'm in prison, fine, whatever. Yeah. Nights EV's in there. All let your com Syria. Yeah. Yeah. Why not buns main takeaways Dallas? Main takeaways is I think I think this now kind of speeds up the process for Harper. I think I think we may have a Bryce Harper signing by the end of the week. I think we may have a Bryce Harper signing by the end of the week. All right. We don't have this on the docket. But as of today, we're recording this on Tuesday. The latest was that the the Vegas odds. Now have the dodgers as the favourite Selanne Bryce Harper did not see them reemerging. I thought this was going to be a two team race between the Phillies and the giants when the dodgers moved Wiegand camp. And they I mean, they didn't free up. Kind of space go get Harper. But it was we freed up positions to do. They will they they actually cleared a total cap space of seven million dollars. All of that movement. Cleared up seven million dollars. Yeah. They free up the position for Bryce Harper. So you kind of expected Bryce Harper to be following. But then, you know, the giants get involved even the Padres. Hey, what's up? You know? It's it's been long enough. Let's just do the dodgers just lay out here sell lecture Vegas. Odds are pumping it up. I understand Bryce Harper's a guy that you don't wanna miss out on. But. Who who might trial? That's might droughts going to be a free agent a couple years. Yeah. And the angels are already I believe they're kicking around the idea of moving to Long Beach. That's been proposed crazy. I think some stability could be something that might trout looks for. And if it's LA that is home, and it's LA wants to stay the dodgers. The dodgers could go barking up that tree. Yeah. Could. And by the way, are either of you convinced that the dodgers the team that ends up at Bryce Harper 'cause I'm not I'm not I'm not convinced of anything anymore. I I was I said the dodgers early on because for me, it was a no brainer in terms of marketing. And what he I think could become and does want to become outside of the baseball field away from the baseball field. Because I think I think there's I think he's got that in him. He wants the limelight. I think he wants to enjoy being dude that people can get on board with because he's got more blue collar to him than I think he's been kind of given credit for he's been dubbed as spoiled as Brad at times when he was early on in his career because he was making young kid mistakes. But he's a fucking superstar growing up in the big leagues. Like there's been like three people that have done that like for fuck sake. So as the guy starts to figure shit out. He becomes a dude that I think LA would welcome with open arms that he would welcome LA. We were talking about in the office. And Nate had a great point is like if Bryce Harper sign with the dodgers. Just how soon would it be before we got a selfie of LeBron and Bryce Harper courtside together. Oh that happens like Bron reaches out and might even send out the PJ. And like, look, you know, welcome. And all but a McCain. Selfie. So I'm gonna go put you, you know, kind of like a rod used to do with all the beef. You just throw it over there on the third base side right in the bonds. So he could sit there and talk to them during the game. And you know, make is and shit like. Yeah. That's run. That's LeBron probably wants to break the fucking news bet you LeBron is like, yo let's take this selfie courtside. And then I'll tweet it. And and be like, yeah. Bryce offers. Wow. You know, what's happening? You know that that's how if he does sign so we'll see. But I still this is this is some John Hayman fucking concoction where this dude tweets out the same fucking thing every day every day. It's always like, you can tell it straight. From Scott Boris is either Email or text message. Hey, why don't you go out there? And let everyone know that there's there's another team with a three hundred million dollar offer on the table. It's like is. There is like I can't if there is a big money free agent. Who is a Scott Boras client out there? I just can't I'm going to get my news from everyone. Like, I would rather get my news from smashmouth than John Hayman in regards to a big money for agent. That is a Scott Boras. Client, am I wrong. You know? It's become a bit repetitive. Hasn't it a little bit? I it's fair to say I could say this with a lot of confidence on the only one on this podcast that I think has any form of relationship with John Heyman whatsoever. And I appreciate John. I understand what he's doing. I've been walking by with friends laughing and having a good time and walked by him while he was by himself with nobody does that count as a relationship. Kinda kinda. It's very repetitive. It's nothing. But repetitive. It's just all there is I think I gotta go find the Twitter account, but there's a Twitter account. That's dedicated to just pairing up. John Hayman tweets that are exactly the same message. But just reworded he tweets the same thing every day every day. I wanna ask do I get credit for like confirming the Aaron auto deal because every other every tweet that I saw as I came along was like deal in the works all but done, but my tweet I didn't use the word confirm. I said it got that word. That's J school wanna one is. You gotta use the word confirm or sources. I didn't go to j school. But that's that's how I separated myself. Here jeered is not the journalist. I'm just the dude who's reading journalists and all go out on that limb. And I'll say it air Nado snags the back. I said I said it before anybody else anybody else could firmed it for the. Jays confirmed. I want to know if I'm getting credit for that. If that's not a credible thing. That's fair. I'm going to continue to shoot my shot. Like that though credit the Dallas breaking news starring nine had it. I put it in the books the the highest paid positional player in baseball history. Dallas Brayden shared that with the world. I and I wanna think some of the sources I don't feel like I need to name them because we're talking that's talking about the redundancy factor there. So we got a little for kitty Rosenthal. Lot of love for Jeff passan. John heyman. Just everyone. John hayman. It's pretty cut and dry. Oh, you know what? Shouts to tip kerchief because I believe two thousand one of those years for Nolan air not oh, he also led the league in sack flies or no excuse me. Yeah. Two thousand fifteen he led the league in sack flies. Do you know that in two thousand fifteen and two thousand sixteen Nolan earn on a lead the league in back to back years in homers and RBI's two years in a row? Fifteen sixteen two thousand fifteen sack flies. Shouts Atip kurkin. Jay before we move onto this average. Yes. More your thoughts on. Our live AP's. You're live ABC's. Just our. Yeah. Yeah. You in Dallas. Yeah. Yeah. Thought it was wildly entertaining. Did did you have any any any complaints because I know some people had some complaints about. But like the the mouth but forty two feet if you Google it right now, you say forty two feet is standard wiffle ball distance in people the other thing too complaining about the balls. We're going to have real wiffle balls in Florida. So can hear about these complaints. Because I tell you what I didn't do what did you click on the video. And then look at all of the people complaining in the comments on the replies. All I did was watch the video and then move on with my life. And I was like, you know, what it's great to see my friends out there just kind of getting it on and having a good time and smiling and throwing some wiffle balls around and maybe hitting each other and brushing off the plate. And I didn't I didn't wonder whether it was forty two feet or forty six feet thirty eight feet and all. These losers who talk about exactly what mile per hour you and White Sox. Dave throw move on move on nothing to see here is the thing Dallas. They don't want us to use real wiffle balls. We were doing them a service by using those other balls because all you can throw with those are fastballs. Official starting night. Equipment is what we were using that's out reference that equipment. Yeah. Now now that we have real willful balls. Here comes the slider air comes the sinker. I gotta tell you as a guy who who never really lived with the heater corrobos. -joyed throwing heaters really joined growing heaters. I'm still going to be I'm still going to be burning them in there. But I will be giving you some to think about that slider will be in the back of your mind and in the back of the fucking batter's box because it's not going to be it's not going to end well for these people. It's just not going to end wealthy people. So when we get down to Florida be on the lookout for the RV, the flags will be everywhere. You'll know that we're rolling up, and I can't wait. Dallas. I'm fucking juiced. I hope my arm doesn't fall off between now. And then because you bet your ass. I'm going to have to go set up a strike zone to order with a balls to figure this out. I've I'm waiting for my arm to come back still after air Zona. Yeah. So maybe I'll be rested. Just in time am non tally show that's going to happen. But tell us a little bit about Roman. You want to hear about Roman? Do you do know about Roman? Well, if you do then, you know that their collective success depends on you folks, staying true to your personal brand. And style would always works. Best is if you talk about why? Shit. Stuff. Stuff. That is bullshit. That is a completely weeding sentence right there. It goes from ad read to tell you what to read awesome. That's bullshit. I'm burgundy keep that in. 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Visit Git Roman dot com. Tom slash starting or click the link in the description below. That's get Roman dot com slash starting for your free online. Visit get Roman in your life immediately. How did you do that you go to get Roman dot com slash starting? That's a bullshit. That's awesome. Good job. Dallas. Do you? Do you believe in karma? It's bullshit. That's that's I feel like you type that out. That's an asshole move. Tremendous J. Hey, Twitter questions. Who would you put your money on to win an MVP in their career? If you had to pick one, Matt Chapman or Trevor story. Yeah. Chappie? I mean. Yeah. Full I'm going full package. Not to knock Trevor stories defense by any means, but chappy is a different beast. Yeah. I'm obviously being a massive Homer here and not take away from from from store. But I mean, I think Chapman. I mean. Yeah, I watched the dude I will. Here's the quote on before you continue. The other thing about story is that he's on a team with Nolan are not. Oh, so like if even if Trevor's story, what did he lead the league in it was either like it was ribs or doubles or something like that? Even if he has a standout season, you know, that no one's going to be taking MVP votes away from him. So it's gonna be hard to stand out on his own team. Chappie is get a clearer path, MVP wise, so Chapman. This is a pretty we made this Nolan aeronautical heavy podcast on purpose. But this is a pretty important question. Given the news over the past week or two Dallas will start with you. How worried should we be about Clayton Kershaw getting another injury? And so soon in spring training or this person called it an entry if you don't wanna call it injury. Then the discomfort that he continues to experience. Yeah. Look, man. I don't know how many of those guys on TV you're going to say it. Also. It's about time. You look at the mechanics, and it's about time. I think to start looking at where the issues are coming from. And we've watched these issues kind of creep up Abbadi of Clayton Kershaw. Right. We've gone from low back mid bat. Now, we're working at the shoulder for me. This is this is what we call correlation. I think like I'm starting to see I don't know if it's necessarily a breakdown, but we are starting to see Clayton Kershaw not be Clayton Kershaw. And it's happened for a while. He's done a tremendous job of Justin in light of some discomfort in light of some physical hindrances. But I think a lot of people initially wanted just chalk it up to spring training. Chalk it up to him getting getting back on his feet getting on that grind. Right. Would he have last year? Bicep tendonitis. So he's had some issues here. And for the folks at home who are listening. If you can't do it in your car because you can't I've tried, but when you get onto dry land, just take yourself through Clayton Kershaw mechanics and take one of your hands and just feel the lower back your lower back muscles are levitated their elevators, they help stabilise from the ground. But they help you lift shit. Right. So when you're lifting that leg and you're pumping, and you're lifting and pumping. I mean think about it. He almost pumps out leg twice every pitch. If you think about it. He lifts it up takes it down. And then lifts it up again. And then delivers so if he's thrown a hundred pitches in my mind, that's almost two hundred leg lifts, I mean because not all of them are going to be out of the white up. So he's not executing all one hundred in the same fashion. But let's say he throws. Sixty pitches or so out of the wind up. That's one hundred twenty those leg lifts at least. And that's what he's doing his bullpen nuts. So I think the body is starting to tell him you'll clean man, you're the fucking best best to do it. But we've got to figure out a different way to go about it at this point because the time between injury and recovery is starting to blend a little, and they'll it could be a matter of just shaking off that rust and get back into the swing things. You don't like I mean, you you just don't like to think that the mechanics, and maybe not paying attention to them are something that is that as factor into this. Because there's been a lot of talk about, you know, his in-season regiment, and how he's going to go about maintaining himself in light of these injuries. So it is absolutely something to pay attention to in. Because this is the guy that the dodgers are going to lean on. And we know that are they. 'cause we interviewed a guy by the name of Walker computer who could be the next big thing over there and Tinseltown. Watt injured. I think I think that is I think that's the feeling I think that's the feeling and we talked to about that little teaser. I don't know when that interview is going gonna drop, but we did talk to Walker. Bueller? And max Muncie at the same time. And we kinda talked to him about, you know, being the next Clayton Kershaw. We'll Clayton Kershaw still there so be on the lookout for that or of you. But. Yeah. I think you make a good point too. Because I think everyone is sort of in a rush to not because of Walker. Bueller? But because Clayton Kershaw has been on top of his game forever. It's like here comes the downfall. Everyone's like for some reason just this negative connotation up Clayton Kershaw. He's on the downfall, which in in some regards. He is I think we did a we had a discussion on this podcast. Have we seen Clayton Kershaw best season? I think that that answer is a resounding. Yes. That's I mean, he can't still be great. I think that we will see another great season or seasons, plural. Clayton kershaw. But what was it? I was at the barber shop the other day sitting there 'cause I never watched ESPN, but I'm sitting there and they got ESPN on. They got a graphic on the TV, and it was kershaw's average fastball velocity by year. And it was. Yeah. It looks like the fucking stock market just crashed. So yeah. But he's a guy. He's a pitcher though like. He can still pitch with ninety ninety one because he locates, but there is sort of that whole, you know, he's had the epidermal. He's had the back problems. This is not an isolated incident. Terms of injuries. But to Dallas is point. Guys sort of feeling fatigued and spring training. It's like Tommy, John, John. It's like no that shit happens. Especially to veteran guys with a lot of miles on them. And he has a shit tone of miles on them. No. He does. He absolutely does. What what I think? We hope doesn't happen is he just sort of becomes a ghost in that dodger rotation. I hope that's Felix. Yeah. Yeah. Because because you want them. I mean, do it buck, man. It kills me. It kills me to think that like I'm not think that I know I'm not going to see the Felix that I grew up competing against that. I grew up watching, you know, like, that's I'm not gonna have that. I'm not going to see that. I know what that was like I saw it firsthand. And that was just incredible. And I wanna see that like I don't want to see link Kershaw not be Clayton Kershaw, it sucks. But I think at some point in time we have. Start. You know, we have to start being real with ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, again, if there are any guy of of the top pitchers in baseball who are the guys that you have the utmost confidence in that. When they lose their velocity. You still have confidence in them to be a frontline starter. Like, this guy can still pitch. I think you know, what man as all be all be honest when I say this. I don't know that that is easily. I don't know that that's easily analyzed without having a feel for the individual's capacity willingness to learn because you think about a guy like CCC bath you who. And I'm not gonna say it was just out stuffing people for the better part of his career. But for a long time CC was just fucking way better than you better than you. And he could compete in the strike zone. Aaron Lee at times he could compete in the strike zone. And he didn't have that ability five years ago. Now, he doesn't he hasn't had that ability and he has missed all right nowhere near what the dominancy looked like. But his capacity is ability to learn the two seamer star turned should over a little bit. That's bought him years, man. That's bought him years. And I don't know that if unless you know, who CC is I don't know that you thought that was going to be the case. He's not dead. So I think I know what our answer is here. But I just wanted to answer the question because I wanted this person to know what the answer is. Hey, guys listener from the very first pod and a huge fan freesheet. You we do appreciate you. My question with how the nationals have reshaped their rotation and roster this off season are they possibly a better team without Bryce Harper. And if they make it past the first round of the postseason would he be to blame for their previous shortcomings? Appreciate all you guys. Do. So two part question. Obviously, I think with the first part of the question. It depends on what type of Bryce Harper you're gonna get. 'cause I mean, if he signs a free agent deal. And he puts up a monster season in call it San Francisco would you have the same season in DC? We don't know what we do know is that he's been wildly inconsistent year to year. But if you take Bryce Hopper's monster MVP season that he had in what was it twenty fifteen and you put that on the nationals, which he's still he's not even entered his prime years yet. That's what's so crazy about Bryce hopper is. Yeah, we can analyze what he's done. But we don't know what he's about to do. We still don't know. He's about to do. So it's it's hard to answer. That question. Our the nationals a better team next year without Bryce Harper. They have the potential to be. But does that mean that it's price Harper's fault? No. I mean, I still think if they can still be better than they were last year. But I think that might have a lot to do with adding Patrick Corbin. I think you kind of took the words out of my mouth there. I think I think it might have more to do with. Yeah. With another arm and that rotation. Reinforcements in the bullpen. And I said it very early on man. Not a knock on Bryce. But I think that one Soto can be more than enough for you to forget about rice Harper, or at least be okay with not having Bryce Harper at the very minimum. That's what I truly truly believe that I truly believe that either way. They're in good shape. Yeah. And no Bryce Harper is. Now, the reason why the first round exits. No, that's not no mask hunter Strickland. If he's the reason why. We we've been on a little bit of a fuck Mary kill run on these podcasts. We have our latest version of that. This features real humans. David Ortiz prince fielder, Vlad Guerrero. Oh god. Can we even do that? Yes. Well, yeah. If you interpret the question is not actually fucking marrying or killing them. But. I don't like to sit Idi of my brethren out to the pasture. That's all well be like signed him to a lifetime contract signed him to a one year deal or release them be man. Think of it that way. That's what the questions really asked reminds obvious. I'm signing. David Ortiz to a lifetime contract. I'm giving Blatty the one year deal number releasing prince fielder, and I love prince field there. But I just like Blatty better. And David Ortiz. Yeah. I mean, that's I'm actually I'm I'm I'm signing Vlad to the lifetime, Johnny. Yeah. You're I think I'm with Alice on that signing blacks at the lifetime, Johnny poppy, you and me every year, buddy, you and me every year and prince nothing personal. But as captain of the all fragile team. I understand I understand what it means when someone doesn't deliver. And you my friend delivered on a far far greater skill than a lot of people who would ever be considered to have not lived up to their you had a mountain of expectations. And as far as I'm concerned, you did the damn thing you were just cut short you were cut short, and that's the fucking crime here to have to send a guy out to pasture because his bucking career was cut short. I resent both of you for making me play this game right over a six-year period. From two thousand seven to two thousand twelve six season period. Prince's average year was thirty eight homers one hundred twelve RBI a 4._0._1. OB in five forty nine slugging few is over type. Plus a PS cut. He actually have four straight at four straight seasons of four hundred plus on base. That's territory, bro. As juicy Ovada over is like fuck and four fifty right? I mean. I can't. I mean, like, I don't know how we would pull it off. But an interview Joey Votto has to happen now that we got the end with scooter if we really, hey, can we can we get that cell can get that Email can get that PR contact something like that. Let us hit us up do need to get a starting nine dogs calendar going. Yeah. Yeah. Volleyball players got dogs. We wanna touch them. We want to touch me touch your dogs. What else we got? Why don't you? Why don't you tell the people about one more thing? Well, you know, that's kind of where I was going with the I hope he doesn't become a ghost. Yeah. 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I would argue that we spend one sixth of our life sleeping because we've been up all hours of the day all hours of the night. Getting you the best baseball content on the fucking planet in there's more to come. We do have let me just run down this list. Just run down this list for you, Dallas. Because I know that you know, there's there's people out there that are intra. Hey, what's coming up? What do you guys got up there? Well, we sat down with Evan longoria. Lucas g Lido Eric themes. Travis Shaw, Christian yelich, max Muncie. Walker? Bueller? Scooter Ginette, you just are Nolan. Are not oh you had Trevor Bauer and Mike club injure earlier in the week the entire as pretty much. And there's so much more coming while. Once we hit Florida. I miss anyone from Arizona. Probably because there's an ASO, but I don't think so. Yeah. Wow. So there's more coming a lot in the tank j what up baby doll. You got any predictions for us. By the way, I hit Matt Wieder finally. Did you? What would I don't know? That means I just he there was when we go at the end of the show, we try to predict which free agent is going to sign before the next podcast Wieder was my random free agent that I kept throwing out there. I think he finally signed today. Yeah. He did. He did. Where'd he go? The cardinals minor league deal. Sweet. Yeah. What you heard mine Bryce Harper signs by the end of the week and he's going to Philly. Okay. Oh, by the way. Jay thoughts on Hanley Ramirez to the tribe. A big pickup. Sure. I mean, if my real analysis, I guess his exit velocity numbers are mildly encouraging. There might be something still there. I'm pretty sure that that groundout to Simeon in the ninth inning of Moniz. No hitter was the hardest. Hit ball. It was like one hundred six I think. Yeah. Hundred six exit veto that was hit by Hanley Ramirez. Yeah. Mean among the players who still don't have jobs. The Indians could conceivably have really truly signed. You probably would have been pretty high on my list. I guess share. But that's about the extent of my enthusiasm for it. Yeah. I mean, listen, the the Indians off-season, I guess, I guess the the win there is that it's the deals you don't make and the Indians managed to get through this season without trading one of their stud frontline arms in order to save money. So what what a win for the Indians. What a great off-season my pick who am I going to go with who's still out? I think. What do you have somebody was going to am I allowed to put its I waited a week? Can I put kaikal in an Astros uniform again or sure is he he's coming back. He's going back. He's back. I don't think he's going back back. You know, it's going to. I mean, if if this big if because I still think he's going Philly. If the Phillies don't sign Harper. Don't you see them just going? Hey kaikal kimbrel. Here's the money that we would have given to Machado. Absolutely, absolutely. But I think that there are the player for Harper. And I think that the Astros. I don't want to say that the Oakland A's gave them a scare last year. But when you look at the disparity between or the difference between the Rangers wrote to me the Astros rotation and the as rotation and for for that division to get within striking distance the way it did to have Dallas cycle out. That's a two hundred inning arm. Not to say that he hits that Mark again, but come on man doubt year with a three seven plus innings. Fucking kidding me. That's what's out on the free agent market right now just book and floundering around two hundred headings. I don't love this prediction because I don't he does not strike me as the type of guy that far on Zaidi would pursue. But I just have a hard time believing that Adam Jones is just gonna fade into like. And just he's just gonna go from like, a borderline all star. Like a guy a face of a franchise to just not in major league baseball any more. So I I think by the time, we do our next podcast. The giants will have failed in their pursuit officially for Bryce Harper. And we'll have settled on Adam Jones to bring him in to compete for a job at camp this year because that outfield stinks. It might be the worst in baseball. Probably them are the Indians. But according to MLB depth charts. It's Harare Parham MAC Williamson and Stephen do gar Duggar. There you go. Point. Okay. Cam been they signed like, I know they've been kind of filling in some of these gaps. But I mean, why not throwing Adam Jones on there too. Yeah. Why not how about thinking outside the box here little bit. How about GIO Gonzalez to the cardinals? Ooh familiar because that makes sense the Carlos Martinez injury. I know they were telling with putting him in the bullpen anyway. But could use some rotation depth now. Because if you're the cardinals who would you rather have GO or guy like clay Buchholz who is pitched well in the National League us interesting because I mean. There's conversations that I've heard about GIO to the dodgers. And there's conversations I've heard about geo to the giants just because of the familiarity with far Hans eighty they you know, he was there in Oakland with GIO, obviously G leaves town. People have tracked Yale the career. He said he had a great year. Get a great lear- last year. I think they'll have the money because it's it's about trying to show that you're trying to be competitive, right? And. I the rumblings about whether or not the giants front office and their entire front office is on the same page with Harper. I mean, I think that could become a very sticky sticky sticky situation, and so two Jay's point and Adam Jones or an arm like geo could be a a fallback plan. I'm gonna I'm gonna walk. Mine back actually, a mino-. I'm going to retract the giants. I'm sticking with. Adam Jones is the target. What about the Marlins? Well, as crawl says, they're playing baseball out there. They're handing out like couldn't you couldn't you see a world where Derek jeeter brings Adam Jones is kind of like the right handed. Curtis. Granderson the veteran outfielder the respected clubhouse guy like you could even form a functional baseball platoon with those two players. Sure. And he's also fall backing case. Lewis Brinson is like unplayably bad and centerfield like he was offensively last year could slide Adam Jones Adam Jones could eat into fifteen or twenty percent of Lewis Brinson played appearances. I'm not sure that's good for the franchise. But. I'm tossing out there too. Don't hate it. I mean, they they need baseball players. They're hired. They do. Until next time. We'll catch it down there. And hopefully, sunny, Florida sure would be nice to see the sun. I would really. Here we come killing fields.

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BGN Radio #30: Wild Card Playoff Preview

Bleeding Green Nation

1:03:16 hr | 1 year ago

BGN Radio #30: Wild Card Playoff Preview

"They. Hi, this is Jim. Check out our podcast step over. We'll be ballers podcast work for all of your Sixers needs layer analysis. Game breakdowns with a colts in headband and more subscribed. Liberty Bowers podcasts he'd I tune Stitcher Spotify or ever you get your favorite podcasts. And check out the step over a podcast about Sixers basketball. Mostly. Gentlemen. Can I please have your attention? I've just been handed in urgent and horrifying news story. Listen. Tell low bleeding green nation and welcome back to end radio. This is episode number thirty. I'm John stolas from bleeding green nation dot com. You can follow me on Twitter at John Stolnis. We got a playoff game to talk about everybody. Eagles bears coming up on Sunday afternoon who to thunk it just a few weeks ago when the eagles walked off the field in Dallas that we'd actually be previewing a playoff game. But here we are getting ready for one of the four wildcard match-ups, then we'll get into all of the wildcard match-ups this week. We're going to go over the injury report detail this game of Ford backward in out, every which way you can imagine in joining me to do that is the brain behind the operation at bleeding green, nation dot com. Brennan league out and Beal g how you doing my man, John your boy, Kirk cousins of huge. Eagles in week. Seventeen coupons. Did it baby. I knew he could come through by totally choking going back to you know, making those pigs between the bears and the Vikings game was like I said it my heart was telling me how can I possibly pig cousins to win. And thankfully, he lost the bears give the a huge favor, and maybe a detriment to themselves. We'll see but these are the playoffs baby. That's awesome. There's really no way that we are realistically thing about is. When they walked off the field in Dallas like you said for good reason they had like zero point six while cartoons. Like this wasn't. This wasn't supposed to happen. A lot of things happened crazy things to get where we are. So let's talk about it. So I mean just saying that zero point six percent chance of getting the wildcard everybody needs to remember. When we talk about all these percentages of making the playoffs and all this stuff during the year. They're just for fun because obviously anything can happen in the NFL. If enough stuff goes on and. You know, it's funny. You talk about the bears beating the Vikings allowing the eagles to get into the playoffs. And now the eagles are gonna play those very same bears here coming up this weekend reminded me a lot for baseball fans who are listening to the podcast of that two thousand eleven Phillies season when on the very last day of the season, the Phillies at had everything locked up, and they beat the Braves in extra innings on on in game one sixty two and the cardinals got into the playoffs because the Phillies beat the Braves in a game the Phillies didn't it didn't matter to them in any way, shape or form that first round playoff series. The cardinals beat the beat the Phillies who had one hundred and two games that year in five games in one of the most crushing baseball series in city history. So I mean, it's I'm just saying Chicago Bears fans. It's it sometimes sports, really sucks. Now. Could happen. It could very happen. Very easily happen this week Beal G, and by the way, follow Brandon on Twitter at brand gotten if you don't already, but if you have been keeping up bleeding green dot com, you know, we got a lot of great content about the the playoff game coming up here. So make sure you keep checking the website out. But on the podcast here. We have to talk a little bit about last week. I before we jump into the bears. And you know, the great thing is that I think no matter what happens from here on out Beal the two thousand eighteen season went from being a disaster went from being a law season to being a successful season. I know when we talked a little while ago that winning a wildcard wasn't really something that interested us all that much. We were really focusing on the NFC east. We were focusing on beating the Dallas Cowboys. And when the eagles walked off the field in Dallas after getting screwed by the referees on the opening kickoff after playing terribly in the first half and then blitzing the offense going on a blitzkrieg in the second half to. Tie the game. And then losing the way they did in overtime losing twice to the Cowboys. Looking like they were dead in the water. There's no way any sane person could have imagined that we would be talking about that. We would be preparing for a playoff game against the bears a playoff game. I think that is very winnable Beal g very winnable and kind of just talk about know, how this team has turned it around a lot of people are, obviously it's all falls and look him coming in has certainly helped. I'm not trying not trying to deny that he's rate these past few weeks. But to be like, it's only him is just it's not true. I mean, this when you look at it they're five and one in their last six like this run started before him. And if they don't get screwed in Dallas, they go three zero in the start of the stretch here. So there would be six no over those six games. Like, that's that's what it comes down to. And I think that goes to Doug Peterson. I tweeted out earlier this week where I was like man you look at where this season could have gone, really wrong. It was when you know, they're coming off this forty. Seven loss to the saints in New Orleans of Malcolm Jenkins, Colin out the team's effort. This Kelsey had the week before. I think just said, you know, said talked about an accountability the team is kind of a weird spot and very disappointing. I of course, but you know, and then continues as they get down nineteen three at home against a guy inst-. Yeah. I forgot man. Like the season's over like right here. This is this is awful. And all of a sudden, Malcolm diggings gets a huge interception on manning. And the team just never looked back from there in terms of going on this run that they've gone on late in the season. So kinda started back, then when you really think about it. And when you look at the offense like they were turning a corner around that time now it helps they're going up against some bad teams there. But still I mean, they they were finally getting something going you look at the chart of eleven personnel. His twelve personnel. As Benjamin solid has been talking about. Where basically every podcasts rightfully so you see like the trend was starting to go away from eleven in more towards twelve which has been their most efficient package all year so much trying to take credit away from foles. I'm just saying let's give credit to other people to like Peterson has done a great job. And it's definitely not some you know, fraud coach that we made him out the be all of a sudden now how much are we talking about Frank Reich in John D Filippo, you know, as much as much recently. I'm not decide their bag coaches good. But just like, you know, it's not like Doug was total puppet. Which I think was a silly story line that was out there. Because look these guys play hard for him in the ER will. So you can't say like he doesn't get any credit for that. So I think it's been huge for this team down the stretch. It's part of why you feel good about this team. There's good coaching here. So that's really big. When you look at this opponent this week the bears. It's it's tough because on one hand you can look at their schedule. And be like, yeah. Who they? Really beaten. It's they don't have a super impressive resume in that sense. But I look at their losses in them. If for from this year in all of them have some kind of like really like they they almost have won that game factor to it. So you start out week one. They're a big on the Packers and riders comebacks in and comes back in and he leads an incredible comeback that only Aaron Rodgers can kind of lead. Like what you almost can't do anything about it. It's again air not as on like sorry, right? Exactly. You're out of luck. So they lose that game by one point in week one. And again, it's like met Nagy's first game as a head coach too. So like, okay, you're not gonna like hold that majorly against him. And then the Yulon they lose in overtime to the giants at one point. And that's what Daniel starting and it was at the Meadowlands. So like okay in that really not the worst loss. They lost to the patriots at home. They're only homeless this year. And it came on a play where they were one yard short of hitting the end zone. In their instead of tying it sending in overtime and is the patriots like another their losses and their other loss was a really crazy game down in Miami. And overtime once again where they lost in the easily could one there could he parking misses a field goal. And all of a sudden the dolphins Winstead. So I mean, you look at that. And we can sit here and say this isn't a juggernaut of team and they're not unbeatable, but they're finding a legitimate opponent. And I think you know, when you look back at last year's eagles run. I think we might undervalue in comparing it from last year to this year that they don't home field advantage in. I think that's big and it's gonna be tough to play on the road. So they have their work cut out for them in this one yet. No having having to play all these rogue games is definitely going to be a huge challenge. That's one of the reasons I felt the eagles could get to the Super Bowl last year even before Nick foles went on his run after they lost Carson Wentz who was having an MVP season. Because when you are. The home team, and you only have to win two home games in a row to get to the Super Bowl. That is an immensely easier road to travel than playing three straight road games to get to the Super Bowl. And you just got to knock them out one at a time. The eagles almost pulled it off in two thousand eight when they got in on the last day of the season. And they went into Minnesota in the wildcard round beautify kings team, really, frankly, wasn't very good. And then they took on the giants team, which is thirteen and three that year that was the top seed in the NFC, and they went into New York and dominated that game. And then lost to the cardinals in the NFC championship games. I mean, that's was a heartbreaker, but you know, that was also. Yeah. It was totally pass interference. I mean, come on. It was ridiculous. But you know, that's just that's why it's so difficult though is by the time you get to that third road playoff game. It's it's really hard. But you know, I think with the eagles were seeing team that's hitting their stride at just the right time. And I just you could feel it from the beginning of the season that it felt the beginning of the season felt weird. You know, it it felt like they were still adding players as the season went along winds coming in three games in Sean Jeffrey come done starting until the fourth game. And then guys guys getting hurt at the same position over and over again as you're trying to bring new guys in and it just it. There was never enough continuity with his team and Jason Kelsey talked about it today as a recording Thursday night talked about it on Thursday afternoon with reporters when he was talking about the accountability comments that you mentioned a few minutes ago. He said today that he used the wrong word what he was trying to get across is that the players just were not executing. And that's something we talked about on those podcast is that we. You didn't necessarily see Doug Peterson doing a lot of things wrong. I think a lot of some of his personnel usage was a little bit head-scratching to us. But we noticed players especially on the offense of line, but lots of players committing penalties just getting caught in the wrong place. And you had some guys because of inexperience where that was the case especially in the secondary with all of the the injuries there and losing J J for this for the season early on and not having Darren sproles for most of the season. There are a lot of headwinds facing this team. And I don't think it really feels like this team arrived here in the two thousand eighteen season until two thirds of the way into the season. And now feels like we've got the eagles. This is the eagles team kind of that we expected not with not with Nick foles quarterback. You know, we expected to see Carson Wentz. But here we are. You know, this is still an injury ravaged team. But the offense of line which was the big strength last year is playing about as well as they did in that Super Bowl run last year. And you've got Nick foles a guy who is slinging it. So I also think you have to give some credit to Jim Swartz bay. Eljay because what he has done with a bandaid ravaged secondary and managing to get these guys through a season to the point now where the secondary feels like it's actually stabilized is goes is really tremendous. And I know, you know, we were really some people were talking for Jim Schwarz's head with all those blown fourth quarter leads. And now, I gotta believe he's he's a very secure coach in this organization. I mean, you could get a job. Elsewhere anything that's too. I don't know. I'm generally not the biggest fan of hiring defensive coaches. But I think he interviews. No, look at some of these other guys getting interviews this offseason like Adam gays again, Mike McCarthy, like okay, like them towards can't get an interview. Yeah. I think what you look at what he's done in over these last three games. If that's all the focus slightly on the raids here when the eagles have been on the three no streak. I mean, legal's rank tied for six and tied for ninth, respectively when it comes to Saxon takeaways, so you know, they're getting to the quarterback there in great pressure taking the ball away. It's just that unit is playing pretty well right now and they're playing with confidence in in swagger. They're not they're not the bears the bears defense. They're not going to be this absolute shutdown unit. But they're gonna be competitive, and that's what Jim towards wants his defense to be. That's what he looks for in players especially the quarterback the defensive backs. We know that once guys who. Yeah, they might get beat every once in a while. But you know, they're gonna they're gonna not let that hang on them. And they're gonna turn around and make a big play at some point. And that's what we've seen from this defense. You know, they're certainly gonna bend at times. But they've done a great job of breaking ranked number one overall read. Red zone defense still with all these injuries that they have here. So that's really impressive. It's been huge for this team. After earlier in the season. They just weren't taking away the ball at all on that was a huge problem. They weren't getting they were never setting up the offense shortly. No field your offense. They can't do anything. And then they can't get any help either from the defense in that regard. So just wasn't a good formula for winning Johnny talk about how you know, just the feel of the team. And I think that's a big thing going on right now. That's something you can put in the stats or kwan-. It's just feel like the feeling of this team right now and Brett farve even kind of said it when he called the eagles the hottest team a heading into the playoffs here. And for whatever you think of Brett farve. I think we're all kind of thinking that thing. I think we're thinking like men there's a confidence that we have in this team. And it's not I don't think it's just because of what they did last year. But I certainly think that factors in. I just think it's they're playing like fundamentally good football in the sense that if you have if you're good in the trenches, you're gonna win football games. And when the quarterback layer gonna win football games is not like it's not like this team got into the playoffs by scoring bunch of special teams touchdowns. Or or something fluky, no legitimate wind. Offense of line is just playing great. And Nick foles getting rid of the ball quickly, which certainly helps and then on the other side of the ball and Fletcher Cox's having a monster stretched in the season. He was amazing against Washington. I know they're playing backup guards. But still. Yeah. Michael bennett. I thought Brandon Graham looked like the most like he's been healthy. And actually looking Lee Brandon Graham against Washington, even though that didn't fully show up the stat sheet. He just looked so much more active and healthy out there. So I think it's kind of interesting Johnny talked about the comparison the last year's team because when you look back at week one that felt like such a I don't know if it's a smooth or natural or weird. I don't know how what the word is for it. But it just it felt like two thousand seventeen a week one. Because you know, they're playing the falcons, and you know, the offense can't really get going to well for either side. It's a close game comes down to the end. And at the end of the game ends with Steve Sarkissian being unable to get the ball in the. Ends on once again. So kinda just there was that deja vu moment. Then after that, you didn't feel like you saw too many signs of that two thousand seventeen but going down the stretch. Now, we're seeing it again. And that's a very good feeling. And honestly like why would you bet against this team? That's why. Yeah. I know they have to plan the road. I know the foes banged up. You know in addition to being a streaky player is he has nap ribs. He's doing with. I'm not saying like everything is rolling in their favor. But it's almost like how could you possibly pick against them? Again. Like, this is the team that no one believed in last year when they got into the playoffs. I mean, we did for the most part. With. Not going in there. But I'm saying after the falcons got you, and I'm talking about more, generally, we as we in Philadelphia. But yeah, nasally like no one believed in them, even when they did win the falcons everyone was still taking the Vikings and everyone's still taking the patriots SuperBowl yet. But like I was just so confident they were gonna win. I was a little bit nervous. But the NFC championship game. I picked them the win. I thought it was gonna be closer. Yeah. But once it got to the Super Bowl. I was like they're going to win. I honestly had no doubt in my mind. And it wasn't even like era Gance I felt like I knew it just felt like I knew and I feel like I'm getting that same kind of feeling right up not necessarily about winning the Super Bowl just dip. I can't say that so easily but just in terms of like this game. And where the team is at right now this week. I just have that kind of feeling of like, there's no uneasiness. There's no like, oh, man. What if this kind of dislike they're gonna play good football kind of doesn't really matter who the opponent is because you're playing so L trenches in your quarterback is playing really well. And you're getting great coaching when have a chance every week and they're really good team. Yeah. Yeah. You know? It's really nice about where they are. Right now is that the fact that they got off to such a rough start this year but managed to finish nine and seven and make the playoffs. It's it's kinda gravy from here on out. You know, I mean they won their Super Bowl last year. So the pressure of. Of winning that first Super Bowl is not on this team. So they can go into the playoffs loose here. You know, they're the number six seed, and I know you met you tweeted this stat out earlier today that number six or fifteen and seventeen all time in thirty two wild card games. Yeah. That's not. That's not crazy. Right. I mean, that's. Yeah. It really is. Absolutely. It absolutely is. And so when when you look at teams normally in that spot, most of them are not defending Super Bowl champions. Most of them are teams that may be have been in the playoffs once or twice before maybe their new teams into the playoffs at get in as a wildcard in their first year that they've been in the playoffs and in some time, whatever might happen to be. But this is a team that can go in there. There's no expectations that they're going to get back to the Super Bowl here because they're the number six seed and some of our minds. I think we feel like there's a great chance they could do it because they did do it last year. They did it in a much different way. Like, you mentioned to home playoff games versus three road playoff games, different big big difference. And that team had a better roster had a healthier roster than this eagles team right now there were there were more good players on that two thousand seventeen team. Just because this two thousand eighteen team has lost a lot of guys to injured reserve so far this year. And but not mean, that's the beauty of the situation. The eagles find themselves in as far as I'm concerned the two thousand. Eighteen season was redeemed. And if they lose in the opening round to the bears, you say, you know, what they came back. They had a great. They finished up the two thousand eighteen season stronger gonna get everybody healthy. And you you made the playoffs the year after the Super Bowl at least got back to the playoffs. It wasn't a two thousand five type season. It wasn't a loss season. You got yourself back in the tournament. And you lost to you had to play some road games. And you lost two good team on the road, which happens, and you can if you know, the fact that you have the Super Bowl already in your back pocket helps help just wallo that a little bit easier. So for me, I think I think the pressures more on the bears this weekend. Pressure's off. Eagles Doug's of the earlier this year. So bad time. Nice thing is I'm not the coach. So players aren't listening to me, you know. You've kind of danced on it when you were talking about like this idea of playoff experience because that's been talked about this week. It's been some people have written about it. And I don't know. I guess I wanna hear your take on it before. I give my take. I wanna see where your I think I think the play-off experience is a real thing. I think especially at the quarterback position. I think you see quarterbacks who have gotten rattled. I remember one of my favorite games that I ever went to was that nineteen ninety five wildcard game where the lions came in with Scott Mitchell. Need one like seven in a row and everybody thought the lines we're gonna blitz their way to the Super Bowl. And Scott Mitchell went into veteran stadium in a playoff game. An absolutely imploded I had never seen any quarterback, absolutely shrink, and he was red hot too. I mean that guy was was throwing it as well as anybody in the league. And I don't I think that when you're talking about the quarterback position. I think playoff experienced definitely helps. I think if you're a team that gets down. Early in a playoff game. And you don't have that playoff experience that you can fall back on. I think you can panic. I think you can try to do too much try to make too many things happen. And that's as we've seen with with the eagles this year. That's when mistakes happen. So I do think that playoff experience. Also with the coaching staff, you know, the coaches know how to get their players prepared for for a game. Like this. You know, to know what to expect that the they know that the adrenaline is going to be there and how to handle it. You know? I so I think I think there is an aspect of playoff experience that does matter I think, generally, speaking, talent matters, more and home field advantage matters more most of the time. I would rather have those two things necessarily than experience. But I think if your team like the eagles taking on a team like the bears the experience that they got last year helps and is an advantage in intangible kind of a way what I don't know. Because I think you know, it's tough to say you look at last year's team. And did they have a lot of playoff experience? So that's what I mean. And then and then look at some of the teams they face like Elena was just in the Super Bowl. And that's a great parallel. Yeah. You know, the patriots obviously have a ton of playoff experience. More play. Expand anyone combined in some cases. So I don't know. I think it's kinda just something to think about if it's a little bit overrated. I don't think it's totally meaningless not gonna say that. And I think you hit the nail in head there with a quarterback thing. I think that's you know, again, that could be a significant thing I know Jimmy kimchi is kind of been tweeting out some stats about quarterbacks in their first playoff start. And it doesn't always go well for them. So I think that could certainly be the case this week when we look at a guy in Mitchell Trubisky don't harm it Mitchell. Who is certainly not very threatening at first glance in look into closer. He's really not. I wanna say he's like it's awful like, which is a very, you know, first of all just very beckoned comments on. You're not brutal. So you got that going for you Mitch average in most passing headed Gorey's that you look at. But the thing I always think about when I think about Mr. risky, besides the thing that the old tweet some of the tweets that are out there and the people who know about those will certainly have laughing. Is when I saw him make his first start against the ravens in last season. And I've never looked are never seen quarterback. Look so lost in the game. Like, I just remember him constantly looking at the sideline play after play into seemingly had no idea what he was doing no confidence. And I was like man I didn't really like this guy to begin with. I'm definitely not in on this guy. Now. Now he's in a second year. I'm sure, you know, the coaching a lot better not having John FOX in there. And instead having met Nagy in there. So I think he's certainly improved since then. But just something about him that I feel like you don't really trust rightly if he's your quarterback like you're not. Oh, yeah. You know, mitts myths has got this like, no, I don't I don't think it's like that. So I think that's a huge reason. Why eagles fans are feeling pretty confident? Competent about going into this game. 'cause it's it's just Mitchell Trubisky like most fans are going to be confident that Nick foles can help perform that guy. And that this defense can hold up against that guy. So maybe I'm really setting myself up here to eat my words, I don't think so I hope not. But I think that's what it comes. That's such a huge factor this week when you just look at the quarterback match-up alone. I will note that Mitch Trubisky eight no in his last eight games started this year. But I saw this stat online today that when he's played a playoff defense this year. He's combined for five touchdowns and seven interceptions and only completed fifty nine point six percent of his passes. So this will probably be one of the better teams. Obviously eagles are one of the better teams. He's faced this year. And we'll have to see how he does real quick before we get to the injury report. This will be the third time. The eagles have played the bears in Chicago in the postseason. Of course, the fog bowl for those of us who are old enough to remember the fog bowl. I was twelve for the fog bowls. I remember it vividly. I remember exactly how infuriating I what infuriated. I was at the officials for not post-poned the game. And I still believe that if if the fog bowl happened today, given how important television is to the NFL it was important back. Then it's it's even more important. Now, there's no way TV executives in the NFL will allow a game and entire half of football to be played when no one could see it. Well, there's happen with the patriots in like a season or two ago. It probably I don't know if it was as about of the ball, but they had switched to the skycam. Like for for the game because they couldn't they couldn't get the broadcast from the remember that you might be right? Yeah. I don't think it was quite as bad as the fog bowl, and obviously technology has gotten better. So yeah, you might be able to work around it now. Yeah. I just think I I mean that came should have been post game should have been held off until the fog cleared or postponed at I know that there's scheduling windows and everything like that. You wanna get that game done? So you don't have people having to split between watching. Different playoff games. Whatever that the eagles got screwed in nineteen eighty. That's all I'm going to say and then in two thousand one in Andy Reid second playoff run with the team. They'd made the playoffs your poor in two thousand and really that two thousand one playoff was kind of Donovan McNabb coming out party. When he went back home to Chicago and beat a bears team that was thirteen and three that year very much like this bears team in that they got a lot of turnovers. They don't have a tear. They didn't have a terribly impressive quarterback. But they manage to to play good defense and had a decent run game in the eagles just went into Chicago. And really dominated that game. Even though they didn't pull away until the fourth quarter. The eagles went in two thousand one and really asserted themselves in a game that they were not favored to win. And then lost the following week. Obviously in Saint Louis against the Rams in the NFC championship game. Do you have any memories of either one of those games Beal g no way to win before you before? Beal. Jeez time everybody. I know what you mean, man. It's like that the fog bowl game the more. I think about it the less. I remember of it because it was it was desperately. All remember. It's it's a haze. I've tried to block it out to be honest. Let's look at the injury report here in as far as the eagles are concerned at a number of guys limited in practice on Thursday Fletcher. Cox with the knee Avantis Maddix limited in practice with an oblique injury. Jason Peters with quad Isaac seal. Amal with a chest window Smallwood with the hand and Mike Wallace. With the ankle. I think the two names of note on this list because I think we know Cox is gonna play and Jason Peters. Gonna play. We've heard that same Otto is actually going to be in the starting lineup for the eagle over was new skin can talk about that more in just a minute up medics and Smallwood being added to the list here on Thursday. I don't know what this means for Sunday. I know is it would be hard for them to lose either guy. I can't believe I'm saying that about window Smallwood, but they really can't afford to lose Maddox. They have to have him in in that game on Sunday afternoon. John Dino who would be starting at corner. Play. I don't even wanna know. Josh hawkins. You made that name up. I'm convinced that name up. There's no way not a real person. When does that that person's even on the team? But it's true. And I don't you know, we haven't heard any kind of major panic. So I'm gonna assume that's good news on the fact that it was the mid I just it's a new injury. I never like when new injuries pop-up day. I usually like pre right injury report. Pretty good idea. What's what is going to have like adds some more stuff in like that might not not good? Not great. It could be nothing. Sometimes the happens Jordan Hicks popped up on the injury report at a nowhere last week, and he still played. So it's not a death knell by any means. But certainly something to monitor here guess again, it would be really bad if he couldn't even smaller because he's really one of the teams most efficient running back played. Well, even saying recently, yet this point was crazy when he again, he was phased out of the rotation entirely. The second year in a row. Dead. He's been officiant lately. And looking at probably not gonna run over this bears defense. So that's not so much where they could be the basis you. It's just a matter of a hand issue. So contributions as a pass catcher could potentially jeopardize hopefully, not but overall really major surprises on the injury report. Good to see that. You're next isn't on there at all. At are. Having some injury issues last week, great scenic falls is full go on Thursday after dealing with those ruse ribs the air. And apparently he's gonna be wearing a little bit extra protection this week. So we'll see how that goes. Yes. Overall, not too bad in for as far as the bears go it looks like they will have any Jackson was limited. So I'm assuming that you know, he's probably gonna be good enough. But we'll see, you know, barring a setback, hopefully that doesn't happen for his sake. But we'll hear. Yeah. And any wide receiver. Anthony Miller said. He dislocated shoulder against the Vikings. But it'll be deal. Yeah. I guess it's happened happens. All the time. I just pop it back in like Mel Gibson in lethal weapon. No worries just need shoulders play football. Recommended but not required. Absolutely. And as far as eagles who did not practice on Thursday. Obviously Michael Bennett with the foot. They're just resting him. DJ Alexander with a hamstring and Sidney Jones with the hamstring. Looks like Sidney Jones once again will not be on the field on Sunday. What a frustrating year for ten out of thirty six possible games. He's played just brutal. Just brutal. All right. Well, let's get into this game a little bit more here Beal. And as we look at these two teams, we match them up the Chicago. There's a reason they have a twelve and four record this year. They've been very very good Chicago's overall this year's number five Philadelphia. Number fifteen the offense of DOD Philadelphia, slightly better than Chicago at sixteen Chicago is at twenty but defensive DVD Chicago is number one in the NFL with the eagles right in the middle of the pack at number fifteen, and I think the key match up to watch the biggest match up to watch especially when eagles are on offense lane. Johnson verse. Khalil Mack bell. Jay lane. Johnson is in zone right now. I mean, he he stymie JJ watt a couple of weeks ago. He's had tremendous success against some of the league's best pass rushers. This year is come a long way since his struggles from earlier in the season. But we know how good Khalil Mack is. He is an absolute terror on the edge. And this just as this is a up of strength versus strength b l g I mean, that's that's huge. And it's you look at what you know. Why MAC is so dangerous. It's not that he can just get to Nick foles and hit him. So he can take the ball away. Like, he he has. Yep. Where I'm losing my numbers. John. I'm looking for what he I think is six four fumbles this year. So he's really good at getting in there and stripping the ball out. And it's not the same to it came Hicks. It's another big pass rusher for them as a three four defensive end. Like they have guys who are gonna cause some trouble tensely for this eagles offense of line. He goes off into line is. Really, well, but all it takes his one play. And I think that's the biggest takeaway for me. When I look at this bears defense. It's not just that. They're really good at not allowing you to drive down the field. It's not like they're stingy like that. It's that they take the ball away. Yeah. They have thirty six takeaways, which leads the league the next closest team has thirty one to not only do they lead the league Balik by five twenty seven of those thirty six have been interceptions and knowing that team has more than twenty one. So again six or sections than the next closest team. That's crazy. Just end it's legit to. This isn't just like something coming together. All of a sudden, the players are really talented. There's really no weak point on that bears defense. You don't look at any of those players. And you're like, okay. You know, that's the guy we can pick on. It's it's not like that. And then Vic Fangio is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league if not the best defensive coordinator in the league. So it's just a really legitimate unit that they. They have their going to be tough any of this. Offense wine is going to have to come up big. They're going to for for a couple reasons. First of all because you know, Nick foles having Bruce ribs, you don't really want him to get it a lot. He's going to have to leave the game. If he's getting hit all game in their further damaging those ribs. So hopefully, that's not the case. And then I just think when you talk about you know, what's critical in this game. And you can always point to the turnover battle in any given week just as a general point. So you're right better. When you went takeaways than turnovers, but I think in this game, especially in a game that could be so close that Nichols. Makes that kind of mistake like he does against Washington early in the game. Where just throws a terrible interception. Like that could be the game right there that could it could be close game could be so closely contested that that one kind of play makes a huge difference. Because look the bears aren't going to have too many. He plays probably where there are almost turnovers. It'd be like that like they're going to capitalize on these opportunities. If you give it to them and all of a sudden note now, you're giving the offense which doesn't scare you a lot extra possessions. And that's going to be tough. Because all of a sudden now, okay, you have to match that again going up against this tough bears defense. I think turnovers are such a huge thing to kinda be focusing on this week. You just can't have those careless mistakes against this bears team. But like you mentioned giving Nick foles time to throw in the pocket where he's not harassed is going to be too key is going to be the key to all this and getting you know, continued great play from Jason Kelsey on the inside is going to be huge. Brandon Brooks has been unbelievable this year Isaac Sam also being in there as well there. They have to deal with the key Hicks who's a monster in the middle as well. So I mean, this is this is it you like you said this bears defense that is better than the Texans defense. The eagles faces two couple of weeks ago. We did mention that voles has been getting rid of the ball super-quick. Over the last three games. And it's really helped. He's thrown over nine hundred sixty yards passing which is the most over the last three games. He's got a a league best seventy seven percent completion rates. I in yards per attempt. He's I in net yards per pass play. So I mean, if you can get Nick foles time he needs. He they're going to go back to the short passing game. Because this is a bears defense that stuff's the run is going to be like the Texans game where you're probably not going to be able to run Josh Adams all that much or Wendell Smallwood. I I predicted a big game for Darren sproles a couple of weeks ago against the Texans. And I'll do the same thing again, Chicago. I think I think they're going to have to use Darren sproles a lot out of the backfield as a runner, and I'm pardon me as a receiver, and we did see that he broke a couple of runs against the Texans. But that's because he was mostly being viewed as a receiving threat out of the backfield. So yeah, I think that's how the eagles are going to have to move the ball in short chunks are going to have to use. They're going to have to use Darren sproles, and they're gonna have to use Zakar tes short over the middle allot to get those. Four and five yard gains. And and that's you know, that's the form of the way the offense played against the Texans is pretty much how you have to do it against Chicago as well. As not you're going to have to get the ball out quick that's imperative you just give them time. You can't give Khalil Mack time and time to to get after it and blindside sag Nick foles stripped the bottom his hands. You can't do that. And that's the be easier said than done. Sometimes I mean, you know, the bears are going to be expecting that. I'm sure, but you look at what the eagles did against Washington who have an awesome defense. They have some talent of front and the way that they were able to just now they're not going to be able to do it the way they did against Washington because to have a nineteen play eleven minute. I was in Saint like Dr. Crazy. That's just not going to be able to do that. But I mean, you kind of want that thing would be nice to kinda dessino to control the clock there and kind of dismiss audibly move down. And in kinda get the points where you can now I'm not saying aggressive, but you know, just to kinda, you know, make the most of your opportunities in this game. I think it'll be really important. It's just, you know, now say all this, and we talk about this tough there bears defense. And then part of me says like maybe this doesn't matter because the Vikings supposedly at a pretty good defense last year when they kin Philadelphia then ac- championship game. We were talking about how they were historically good. Especially on third down. Like they were. There was nothing fluky about that defense. Again. Mike Zimmer is a very good defensive mind as had coats. So it's not like something that totally got exposed. Offensive line. Wasn't it? They'll be Eljay wasn't. Yeah. That was pretty much in. Yeah. They kept foles clean the whole game. And he didn't to his credit. You know, he didn't make any mistakes with the ball. So that's come down to again, and you have to feel good when you talk about strength strength. When you have this offense, align that's playing really, well, let's talk about the line a little bit because I guess we didn't get into it. We make here of eagles seemingly changing their starting left guard with Somali expected to be back in the starting lineup now that these seemingly healthy again. And also he was seen taking team reps in practice. I put up a poll on the post on bleeding your nation. John and was about a fifty fifty split in terms of people who people want starting at left guard between Somalia and was Nikki it is comes down to forty five percent tomorrow. Fifty five percent was new ski. So how you feel about that? I probably side with on the news key side. You know, he's he's been in the lineup as this offense has really. Taken off here over these last last few games. And you know, I know that Saimaa CMO same all replaced him earlier in the year for reasons. I did was I mean same plate. Okay. But I think it was new ski was also the guy who was part of the stretch run last year. I thought the offense of line played really well together when he was when he got added to the starting lineup last season. And so I would I would go with was new ski. I don't know that you lose a lot with Sam also. But I think that was new ski would probably be my choice. What about you? It's interesting because you would think okay, they're playing, well, why mess with a good thing. But I guess that's shows. You clearly feel that Somalia is a upgrade over him. It's not necessarily so close. I think that's kind of when it comes down to know kissed and select have been talking about how they feel like swallow has played pretty better say pretty good. But you know, if they clearly feel like he's played better than was new. So I don't really think it makes a huge deal to be honest with you either we're talking about left guard here. You know what I mean like? I just I don't think it's the the total game changer, but maybe it will be. And then we'll all be questioning. Oh my gosh. Why would have beaten guy though, this make this change? I think probably we might might even think about it by the time Sundays over do. You think this is another game where Doug Peterson throws balanced between running pass out the window? I almost has to right. We're talking about that. Like I do. I do you really think you're gonna hit the ball moving on the ground with these running dies in this bears defense. I mean, they're just incredibly stout. We talk about MAC in Hicks like those guys can do as pass rushers. They're really good run defenders as well. They've a ton of tackles for loss this year, and you had any Goldman into that makes it at their nose tackle position in ECE guy who gave just days until Kelsey some struggles back. Remember when they played the bears in two thousand sixteen and it makes sense to Eddie Goldman's like six four three twenty five and kill C is a little bit smaller for center only about six three to eighty so. It's just a big size mismatch there. So I just don't see them getting these opportunities where they're going to be able to run over. I don't think you abandon it completely. You know, you tried out. You see what you have going there and manage it where you can? And maybe give the offense of line break from pass breaking on game on. But I just don't really expect it to be a huge weapon for this team and small been while recently. But you know, you can't really just trust him always to be like that. And you know, Josh Adams kinda got off to a really bad start last week before kind of picking it up a little bit. So I think it's kind of like what you said he kinda just wanna get during sproles were involved in the running backs involved in general in the passing game. And that is something I do wanna note request from last week's game a little bit of encouraging scientists Josh Adams get involved in the receiving game. Because he don't mean for receptions coming into weeks any three into Washington. So that was kind of a little bit of a nice thing to see there on the on the flip side of gonna flip this around to what the bears can do on offense. They're running. Backs. Not so scared of Jordan Howard when it comes to stopping him as a runner because the eagles run defense is really tightened up here down the stretch is the bigger issue in the middle of the season. But I mean to Rico, and that is a guy who is definitely going to be a problem for this. Eagles defence. I know that the no pump Frey was playing the role of Torri co in practice. I know he's, but the he is essentially the bears version of Darren sproles, and he is a guy who can create a lot of problems for the Philadelphia defense who is playing a lot better right now. You know, it's and the key is going to be can they get to Mitchell Trubisky enough? So that. They can make him that they can force him into some mistakes of their own their own. Like, you mentioned the eagles defense has done a better job forcing turnovers lately, and that has been a huge help. But getting the defensive line getting more pressure on the quarterback has also been really big. And I know that the the Chicago offense is very similar to the type of that the eagles run a lot of our PEOs in there. A lot of the the short passing game. Lot of the the shallow crossers and throws into the flat. And that means that you're Bisky will probably be getting the ball out quickly as well. And so it's going to be a challenge for this. Eagles defence to generate the kind of pressure necessary to get to Trubisky before he gets the ball out. But again, I think the inexperience of Trubisky, and you know, maybe Jim Schwartz has something up his sleeve that can give Trubisky. A look that. He hasn't seen before that's going to be a big key here to stopping the offense because they do have some weapons on the outside. Beal Jalen Robinson is a really good wide receiver. He's he he can be very. Dangerous if you had a better quarterback he'd probably have better numbers this year. But. Robinson is a guided definitely keep an eye on in addition to to Rico in and and in our old friend, Trey Burton, I think Trey Burton is gonna see a lot of action across the middle of the field on Sundays well Robinson's ago, obviously get you deep, you know, cutting up is that big playability leads the bears and big plays receiving this year thirteen point seven yards per -ception average. So that's something. That's definitely going to test needles defense that really has cut down on giving up. Those big plays recently another big part of their success in this one just kind of looking again at this bears offense the offensive line. It is a pretty solid unit. I mean, the they rank they're thirty sex rank tied for eighth fewest football outsiders. They ranked the bear seventh best in justed sacrilege. So they're doing a good job overall protecting Trubisky. But I mean again when you just look at Mitchell as he wants to. He called just don't. Bye bye. That no. Rich, man, you know, I mean, maybe win, but. I just don't trust him. Like, I just comes down to that to me. I just feel like he's going to make a mistake at some point. It just it feels like that's going to be the case, especially with this being his first playoff game. And the fact that the bears run game they rank and they're the bears run blocking ranks twenty eighth. They're four point one yards precarious tied for twenty seventh. Jordan Howard who kinda gets a little bit more hype that might deserve. He's averaging three point seven yards carry as very good three cone is much better, obviously. But he's you know, he's not a lead back as much as he is a factor as a receiver. So I just don't think the bears are really going to be able to get this run game going, and that's what eagles want. They don't want you to be able to run the ball. They want you to have to pass a game long because that gives them a chance for their pass rushers to go and make a play and they've been doing that recently butter Cox has been unstoppable against that. As was last week. So I think that plays into the hands that they can stop the run here. Nine kind of T O. Off on Trubisky. That's what they that's what they need. And that's what they want to get in this game. And now with all that said, the one thing about Trubisky that you do kind of have to worry about is. He is not bad when it comes to mobility many react fifth overall quarterbacks in rushing, so he's going to be able to get some yards with his legs here kind of move around a little bit. And that's something else will certainly have to keep in check as mobile quarterbacks. Have come to hurt them at times. That is a factor. They have to consider. But overall, I mean, I just don't think you look at Trubisky and be like, you know, that's a guy who's really gonna carry this bears team to win especially all odds and adversity. I don't really think that's the picture here. So this bears. Offense is definitely it's capable because you have Negga here. And he's he's going to, you know, drop some interesting stuff and office coordinator to Mark Helford organ like they have some good scheming here. But I just it's not like a juggernaut of offense. Spiny means again it ranks twentieth. Interview a twentieth in yards per play. They ranked twenty three point six twenty three point six off into points per game, which is twelve. So the points are a lot better than the yards, but you know, that factors in because the defense is so many turnovers and they have the best average starting field possession. So that's another big reason why turnovers are so important because if you're not giving this bears offense good starting field position. They're not going to be able to drive down the field the whole game. Probably in have these long field drives. So I think that's another reason why it's important now. One thing the bears offense does do really well is score when they do get into the red zone their fifth and red zone conversion so that'll be an interesting battle the our first overall as I said in red zone defense that's kind of just another strange versus strength match up to watch their and that'll be really critical. I mean, you know, if the eagles can get stop. In the red zone in this game. Cody parkey is not the best kicker. Not at all our former friend in once a folk hero kinda for this team. I mean, he is only kicking seventy six point seven on the year which ranks twenty seventh at a kickers. He's missed three in the thirty to thirty nine range in MS six in the thirty to forty nine rain. So, you know, not exactly dismissing the far kicks missing some easy ones to also missed three extra points and one was last week. So that could come big in this game. You know, you're looking at a potential defensive struggle close game. Sudden Cody parkey is missing one kicker at least a couple that could be another big thing in this game. Yeah. And just hopefully, Jake Elliott makes all his extra points because I feel good about Jake Elliott with a with a pressure kick that if he has to make one, but this wanna make sure you get that seventh point on those touchdowns Jake because this probably will be a single possession game. If not a feel. Goal game between these two teams at sit should be pretty close one. We'll get into our predictions for this game coming up here and just just a few minutes. But first there are three other games on wild card weekend that we should talk about g and we'll give give everybody our picks for and we will start off with the first game of the weekend on Saturday. And that's the Indianapolis Colts at the Houston. Texans to Texans favored by one and a half. Who do you have in this one Texans frauds coats, really Frank Reich, baby. I mean this team started one in five gone on a run. They've made the playoffs. I was so confident in the colts beating the titans last week even before a new Moda wasn't gonna play just like they're really good team. They're really well coached team. They're often line is playing great for them. And you just trust in Frank Reich in his coaching ability, and he should be coach of the year. So I if you really good about that one I just don't buy the Texans overall doing a little bit that are giving them credit Ford's. Watson and economically do some incredible things. But I mean think about Bill Brian in the way he cowardly did not use coward. And that he's a he's a yellow belly. Man. Takes him over Frank right down to for me. No, I two and people are sleeping on Andrew. Luck to Andrew luck is still a great quarterback. The eagles were lucky to get that colts team in Philadelphia at the beginning of the season before they had really hit their stride. And you're right Frank Reich versus O'Brien. I mean, I still can't believe that the the the chances that he gave away with punts in that game against the eagles a couple of weeks ago, though, some of those fourth in shorts where you, you know. It's just it's we're so used to seeing Doug Peterson go for those that it seems obvious that Bill Bryan should go for them. And Nope the. Coward went and kicked it every single time. So cowards don't win, and I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you. I'm gonna take the colts to win that game as well. Seattle at Dallas gee, Dallas favored by two points at home. Now before we get to our picks. I wanna play I wanna play a quick clip of the of the only other time the Cowboys and the Seahawks have met in postseason history. Give listen. Unbelievable. Crazy is this. Nothing on American football. Just slipped out of his hand was a good snap. And he went to put it down and it just slipped. So that, of course, Beal the Tony Romo. Pop pulled snap on the chip shot field goal that would have given the Cowboys a two point lead the c o still had like a little over a minute left in the game. They possibly could have gone down the field. Russell Wilson's a magician. They could've gone down the field and gotten a field goal. There's no guarantee the Cowboys win that game. But I mean, what an what an incredible play that. I mean, one of the one of the all time classic NFL plays back in two thousand six when Tony Romo. Bobbled the snap as the holder for the field goal. And so now Dallas going to try and exercise some of those demons at home against the Seahawks. Dallas favored by two g I think I think Seattle wins this game. And I think they win it pretty easily. I mean, I don't even think this is a six or seven I know that I'm I know the jinxing I'm gonna jinx you're not. I generally speaking, you are not a letdown guy. I am. Generally, not a jinx guy. So I'm just going to go right on through. I'm gonna say Seattle wins this game and wins it comfortably Beal j. I hope you're right. I just you know, I think back to the same scheme when I come on the saints should've beaten the Cowboys in Dallas, they should have one. And they just didn't and kind of scares me a little bit. And I think back to when the eagles when the Cowboys were last in the playoffs in two thousand fifteen and you know, the the lions on wild card weekend in the refs just handed them the win. Like that was so pathetic. I was so mad about that. So I'm kind of afraid something that would happen. But overall, I mean Cowboys team tried to win in week seventeen for no good reason have nothing to play for us. Bizarre. Their starting left guard is no out for the game. Basically because of that by the way, so that stupid by distant Garrett, and they barely manage to beat that giants team a bad giants team. Like they bear barely managed to beat them trying to play to win that game. And you just look. The rest of Dallas peripherals here in fourteenth point differential to non playoff teams ranked higher than them the twenty first overall in. So I just don't think they're in actually good team. I know they had that run their that'd be the saints by just don't think they're actually good. And I think the Seahawks even though they struggled there against here's ONA. I think they are a really good team. And now in fairness, I don't know why the Seahawks replying trying to win either. They nothing to play for. But I just think you know, the Seahawks are going to find a way to win this game. You've we wanna talk about playoff experience. Mattering Seok certainly have that in the Cowboys do not. So I would just love for probably not gonna be that same exact play, of course. But I would just love for that to have some signature choke moment against the Seahawks following the steps of Tonio. It'd be great to see. So jinx be damned. I will take the Seahawks. Please be on a thing. Yeah. If the happens eagles will have automatically outlasted the Cowboys. That's right. So who are the real? And if he's. Well, I know what the t shirts will say, but I know in my heart would it'll be last the last of the wild card games before the eagles eagles play last year this weekend. The LA chargers at the Baltimore. Ravens ravens favored by two and a half year. Beal g so far. We have picked both of the road underdogs to win here on wild card weekend. This feels like a game where I think you gotta pick the home team to win this one. Baltimore is just really hot right now. I mean, they just beat the chargers in LA and weeks Ecksteen that means everything. But I think it says something and when I look at this with this ravens team has done lately, they are six in one in their last seven games. The one loss came in overtime to the teeth in Kansas City. And I just think they're playing really good football right now. Even if Mark Jackson is in his best. I still think that defense is just so good. And the chargers, they always show. They always joke. They always do and done it a little bit less this year. Like they've done a little bit less. So maybe there's some kind of hope for them. But I just think that Baltimore defense is gonna be really tough at home, and they're just playing so well recently that it's kind of tough for me about against them. Isn't it totally the chargers to finish twelve in four and have to play a first round playoff game on the road? I mean, isn't it just the most charge? Staying the most Philip rivers thing ever that this is happening to them. And not only that is they're playing in the one o'clock eastern game here on Sunday. Tevin AM start time. According to, you know, the the west coast folks, you know, and that's that's asking a lot of team to fly across the country and play a game. Where normally would be according to your internal clock about ten in the morning. I think it's a tough ask for the chargers. So yeah, I'm taking Baltimore. And I think I think they'll win by three or four points that one. All right. Beal g it's the moment of truth. My friend eagles versus bears. The bears are favored by six points at home. You wanna go first with your picks or you'll may take the first stab at it. A low you go for so obviously, I mentioned the postseason experience before I do think that helps this Philadelphia team knowing that they can come in calm cool collected that they they've been here before they they know what they're doing their defender defending Super Bowl champions. Nick foles is playing out of his mind right now. I think we're seeing Doug Peterson back. I think. I don't know what it is. But when Doug Peterson is calling this. The Nick foles version of the offense seems to flow a lot easier flow a lot better. I think he's in a groove again here as the playoffs are rolling along as far as playcalling is concerned. But I think the most important part of this eagles team right now is that the two most important things the offensive line is playing like it did last year and the eagles secondary has stabilized. Those were the two big problems early on in the season for the team as lane Johnson was struggling Jason Peters was struggling even Jason Kelsey was having his issues with some injuries early on in the season. And Carson Wentz wasn't getting any time to throw getting pressured all the time the running game wasn't finding any ground because the line was opening up any holes. Now, all of a sudden those things have turned around and all of the injuries in the secondary B L G killers in the middle of the season when they went into New Orleans, and when they when they had to play some of those teams and just had no one back there when when Avantis MAGS just didn't have the reps when result. Douglas, just didn't have the LaCroix craven LeBlanc. Didn't have the reps. Necessary to to know what they were doing out there. They didn't know where they were supposed to stand part of the time. Remember that giant's game until until Malcolm Jenkins went to gym shorts. And said you need to simplify this man. They had no idea where they were supposed to be on the field. And it's just been such a night and day difference over the last three weeks. It seems like the secondary is playing pretty darn well against some some good competition over the last couple of weeks with the Rams and the Texan. So I think the eagles win this game. I would take you know, I think certainly I wouldn't take the bears as six point favorites. I think this is a close game. I certainly don't think this ah game the bears win comfortably. And I think this is a game. The eagles do win. I think it's an offense. I think it's a defensive struggle. I'm going to say twenty two seventeen b l g twenty two seventeen. Right. So for me. I just think again, you talked about earlier in the show this you'll team has stuff going on. For them, very sustainable and has very similar to last year. Getting great quarterback play for getting great play from the trenches. They're getting good coaching. Those things will help you win. I don't mean the playoffs anytime of the year and use are going into the playoffs as the team a no one wants to play not just because they're on the hot streak 'cause I mean other teams are going into the playoffs. Hot to the you'll have been there before they're just there last year. They know what it takes when you wanna talk about experience. There is some kind of factor in there where the team has been there before. So it's not like the moment is suddenly just going to be too big for them. And I think conversely, it might be for Mitchell Trubisky. Mitch whatever you wanna call. So I do. I think that's kind of going to be the case. I think it will be a very competitive game. I do think it will come down to the wire. I do think it will be twenty one to twenty. And I think it just might end on a Cody parkey missed field goal as runs out. It'll be heartbreak in cargo for the wonderful people of Skyguide love Chicago. Great city, so bad news for them. But great news for the eagles as they advance to the divisional round to play in the Orleans against the saints. I think that's what our man got that. While we'll jump off that bridge when we get to it because that game was nightmare inducing earlier in the season. But I do feel good about this game on Sunday Bill. Gee, I just I have a good feeling that the eagles are gonna come away with the victory here in Chicago. I don't think this bears team is overly impressive offensively. Any final thoughts before we wrap up here. This this wildcard. Preview show, my friend when love it love it. And folks, make sure that you subscribe rate and review. Thank you. By the way, all of you guys for tremendous two thousand eighteen as we're going into two thousand nineteen here with the relaunch BGN radio and the bleeding green nation podcasts. It's been awesome. Your support on the podcast over the two thousand eighteen season has been phenomenal. 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All In on Odorizzi?

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All In on Odorizzi?

"Are you a big guy fed up with clothes that don't fit? Here's a tip head to DSL, anyone can make a bigger shirt, but DSL makes closed that actually fit. If it's all they do one another secret. Okay. They've spent years developing their own sizing patterns to make sure it's a comfortable fit every time and every size and good luck finding that anywhere else. So head to DSL dot com and check out a store near you, d XL big and tall built for you at DSL dot com. This is no fantasy focus baseball podcast here. Your hosts tristen Cochran's in America, rebel, indeed. This is the fantasy focus baseball for Monday, June third two thousand nineteen. He is league winters than I am driver Eric joining us today, versatile Kyle soppe pushing all the right buttons, and the editorial watchdog and the guy who published my first photo credit last week is Tom Carper wasn't on vacation, Kyle. Vacation. I went to the Astros game in the Rangers game and. Stories two of the best players in baseball guys were both on vacation. How could you pictures? He is eating the best chickens out on the world. It was fun on today's show, the good stuff we wrap up the weekend. Performances matter talk the latest injuries pitchers. Watch a carousel at the closers, and of course later on myriad hashbrowns answered by our expert tryst in all right. Let's budget. All right. Before we cap, everything today, the big day in the baseball world, because the latest amateur draft will occur and really shouldn't be the lead of our podcast because it's not a whole lot of fantasy utility tristen. Do you watch the first round of the draft? What do you think of it? If you're an identity format like does this change anything like like that. First guy that catcher Adly rush men from Oregon state, you know, I'm kind of cool on catchers, cool, meaning bad and dynasty formats, because most catchers, don't have a long run of success. I mean BUSTER, Posey's an example of did. But, you know, most of the pitchers, take two or three years, if you wanna wait in a dynasty form. And I understand that, but for people playing fantasy for just this year tonight, doesn't mean very much doesn't. It doesn't it's it's just the dynasty leagues because often do we see a player picked in the in any round of the draft who makes debut that season? I keep going back to those relief pitchers Chad Cordeiro and that class. Those are the ones usually breeze their way into the majors. They contribute as relief pitchers. Actually, the red stoop Brennan Finnegan show that was a royals guy, and then he was well read. Yeah. Today, but when they drafted him Royal state and they throw them into their bullpen during their playoff run. I'm so so Russians. Interesting. And the only reason I this is both were from a major aspect is just that the scouts are speaking about him as, as a franchise chip any, as a catcher and considering the Darth of quality catchers there in the game if he progresses quickly through likely the Baltimore oil system. Maybe he will contribute in a big way two years from now. So that is a guy who it did see league I will in, in my league will put in a pretty hefty bit on him, even as a catcher like you're saying as a positive. And I'm saying. I'd rather have one hundred Bishop who I know is going to hit for power like there's so many good hitters college hitters his draft. I'm thinking they're going to make a bigger impact than catcher, I but if this guy rush is Posey. Your Gary Sanchez, Johm, our then, you know, I guess it changes everything. But you know what makes me hesitate? Just a little bit. We're talking about a he's switch it and catcher who could be trapped by the Baltimore Orioles, who is considered a great defensive guide. Here's like exactly was that. We'd is a great fantasy option. No. Although, although now maybe he's worthwhile. We'll get into that. Yati goes on the deal. We're going to get into that because not worth discussing. But like he did have a run with Baltimore where he was relevant. Anyway, what's the drug because it's really exciting but you don't know when you're watching it. Who the next Mike trout is pick like twenty fifth? Right. He was believe it was twenty six. He was a spot ahead of the eighties. And that was the Yankees guy. So I remember that part of the story pretty crystal clear sitting there waiting for his name to be. I like your your mention of Bishop Bishop was one of the likely to be drafted in the mid range of the first round who does interest me, a lot from the dynasty angle anyway, it's gonna take a while for most of these guys to matter for fantasy purposes. But if you're an and if you're in a format you're probably probably already have Richmond in your league do you have to wait until he assigned a team. Yeah. On the league check your check your rules. The other one is by the way, do you have any different approach between college and high school prospects? Well, I don't wanna wait as long so college guy. Yeah. I mean, I remember you know, I've been playing since I was I wasn't even born Pat burrow when he was rafted that was a college hitter, slugger, he was going to slug right away here later and move quickly and Ryan Braun. Same thing, though, third baseman, but, you know, these kids, you know, teams can be more patient because it depends who gets them, the world's get batting the first round he can be up next year. You think in terms of Bobby Witt junior being the high press that's three years, at least. Right. And by the way, and that's the guy projected. To the royals. They have modesty short. So they don't worry about that stuff because he could be a long. We're talking about a long term project, then, so I mean, by the time went debuts for the royals Montiel already had, like three seasons where it was a first round fancy pit. Exactly you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Crawford was supposed to still be ranking after like j p Crawford ranked about where you at this point. I don't even up dating my but like he's should be the top fifteen for. Sure. Yeah. It's one of the best players vanity baseball said on Turner. He's a some questionable real baseball skills, but he is making it work. He's fun. Fifty bases. With fifteen home runs you're going to do exactly what transfers walks and might not even be fifty bad. Batting average points off a trade Turner. The other reason why today's a big deal is because the compensation pick for the free agents gets lifted Dickey's that they have in baseball but Craig kimbrel and Dallas psycho can now sign with teams and it's just money that they're spending. They don't lose the compensation draft pick which is important, okay. But I don't think either of these pitchers pitching this month and the track record for players who missed the first couple of months of the season is terrible. I, I mean, I guess it'd be different with Kimberly short reliever as opposed to a starting pitcher for doesn't throw ninety five. So I do care like if kimbrel goes at the twins today. Okay. He'll become their closer upon activation. But that may not be this month. So I care from a couple of angles on this one, and that is more. The only the deeper leagues. These are players who are going to be dropped into your league if they weren't taking on draft and kept on your bench. The entirety of the year and they are going to eat up a large amount of fab and I would argue that it's probably going to be too much. And I think it is probably going to be kimbrel who deserves it a little bit more because, as you said, a lot of bullpens are very much in the air and kimbrel based on his reputation and swing swinging miss stuff is going to probably breach right into being a closer. But I like your projection on the timetable, it would take for them to get up to full speed Jake Arrieta comes immediately to mind, the Phillies did not race him right into the rotation. He got in there pretty quickly, but they didn't raise him right in so I'm with you. I feel like we're looking at a June, thirtieth timetable before either one could contribute at all. Anyway, I still have to season can Brooker get fifteen saves, especially if he's on the twins are really good team. I say the twins, the Red Sox would be the cardinals me anymore words, it could be. Yeah. Means brewers. You know, they want a right hander. Bullpen who can get some saves so hater can't the Corbin burns finished yesterday's game? I don't wanna keep doing that. We'll get the closers a little bit later on here. Let's move onto some other news from the weekend, maybe some of this, you got to Thursday on. No, but, oh, Joey Galloway with that. And I'm not the jinx I did speak to him on Thursday. This is that's the fine yet traveling around and players. Get hurt the characters not at not at all. He heard his oblique swing pitch on Saturdays on the injured list. I doubt we see him again until the all star break to shame. He's having a month or season. I believe the headline said morphed into a fantasy star. I was all for it boss, was for it, Texas is not replacing it with anything fantasy. I think fantasy managers are want mean Danny's, I just don't think is going to help you much, or Delilah shields. They can still a base, but I'm tired of like rostering stolen base. Guys like this and Billy Hamilton who do nothing else terrible, like she was in the minors for reason it can't hit Billy Hamilton. I watched I was at the world's ranger's game on Thursday. He struck out off or of the bats. He offers nothing at the plate and the stolen bases don't matter and and real baseball anymore. So I just it's hard to Rosser players like this, which is why overspent in a trade this weekend to get Starling. Marseille in a fifteen mixed league. And you told. Me not to do it. And I did it. Anyway. Give this backs give the specs. I, I actually really liked this trade. And I know you and hate it, but I was an idiot, but I liked this trade, I all right. So I get more tape because I'm second last on basis. And he's a Seoul-based guy he should still twenty more bases the rest of the season. But it's the throw in that you don't appreciate Christian. Walkers legit. All right. I'm not saying he's going to hit thirty home runs. But he's, he's their first baseman and David Fletcher and on base percentage league is I think gold, I can play anywhere. Underrated I will get on that helped fifteen steals on the season twelve homers he's going to bat three hundred with a three sixty on bass, I love David fled shirts, Martine pro. I find steals. I traded away, Edwin good thirty Homer, guy and Miguel. So no who I thought it was a good time to sell high on because he scares me healthwise. It's an on the Opie league whatever. We'll see what happens. I see your perspective on it. And as I pointed out, just to the listeners understand the fact that on base percentage completely replaces. Batting average. And there's no other categorical changes did influence, Martisn great and on base percentage, and Edwin Encarnacion is better there than in batting average. But I see your point very much about the steals guys taking it back to gal. I agree. I'm finding it very frustrating to have to trust even Malik Smith. Malik smith. I have one of my ale only and finding it very frustrating to have to squeeze my stolen bases at players like this who are very streaky who aren't contributing to the level expected in the preseason and maybe that does make Marty worth more than a game. And then like the rest of the week. It's like it's like raw string, I've just sort of sitting Greg home, then Hector, Narus enclosures like this even in the vampire Lee because I might get a say this week, I might not get any like it's amazing. What has some of these closures are legit closer for the teams. They're not getting any saves that all Alvarado is six saves in two months. Jose Alvarado I I dropped them in the vampire league, which I won by the way the second week in a row. Sure my team. Tiles mom gonna make that transaction. I'm not ripping your mom. She actually made the transaction last week group pinch hit before. Yeah. Trista would you have allowed that would you have allowed Kyle's mother to make the transition win this week? I don't know. She the, the week somebody VP of the year for putting up with you. But like, you know, since mom of stat got into baseball to help back her Suns fan. I credit the moms who get involved in fantasy based women play. Let's not pretend they don't it just I could've made the transaction myself instead. You text me back on my mom's doing it for me right now. And I'm like, what are you eight on long phone call on the way home? But the very friendly was able to walk through it. We made it happen. ESPN app. Loaf. I'm there's eat. So I don't know what he's gonna eat the meat loaf briefly because otherwise it will be an hour and a half show. And I don't think that changed my week way. Phillies trait for Jay, Bruce, that doesn't matter. Does attrition. I don't think so you know going to play against Ryan pitching online. He's going to play but, but where the pieces left field. No. He's going to play left field against Rhianna pitching and maccagnan's gonna play center. Can't be happy with that. Well, I can't be happy as Zach Zach effluent manager or investor mccutchen shouldn't be in center field, but I just don't think the Phillies go out on the DL on. For or look great yesterday. I just I'm just mccutchen, your point the pieces, don't fit perfectly naturally, and I did. I think of it's just impor- all over again. It's not. But you're right. You know, he's going to play more than just than board is by the way, Seattle has nothing. That's they're going to play the interest because of the open PA's colonic is not coming up this year. He's like nineteen just lots in the pats for the guys you already knew in Seattle, Nick Williams doesn't play and Nick Williams shouldn't play. He's playing terribly terribly. Nicknames is not deserved a play right now. And by the way, who I compare them to, and you're gonna think this is I do these cops off the top of my head. No mamas are if Nick Williams played every day, he would put up his numbers. That's how under underachieving Missouri Missouri's three straight seasons. Twenty home runs, not a Walker. He's knox. And runs only because he bats cleanup for them. If Nick ways bad clean up every day and got six hundred as he put up the numbers Missouri's, which is nothing special. That's what I'm saying. I want. I want to challenge you on them as our thing. And, you know, I I can't I I'm right. I can't I think that I do think greatness could be there down the road. 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Three the last four days since our last show, and there were only three there on Saturday, Christian yelich early him trout for to him, and Harare, par. Just party. While you still yell it, and I gave up roadblocks to do it. Why? Because he's terrible in points. You're gonna points right in a row, he'd be really valuable uses. That's where it'd be giving up hunter pets. But yeah, would you have given up hunter Pence, or would you have given up si you've won so much that you're not you're giving away good players? Now I gave away guy blinders midst Keller. You like if you win too much you're going to have to give yellows back at some point, all right? The way I had the option of taking away, JT real Muto from the guy who named his team after real. You wouldn't do that to me. Next up the carousel closers. Big Jordan Hicks van here. But that's not trending. Well next save chance for the cardinals Hicks Gant Carlos Martinez, Craig kimbrel who is. Yeah. That sounds like a good list. Let's get the dartboard out. I think it takes but I, I don't feel confident in the slightest throws so hard that sometimes he just doesn't know where it's going, he was a big Walker lassie's and not much the first six or eight weeks of this season. But last week, had a couple of blowups, and I don't know what the cardinals are going to do honestly here. They're committing it. I'm I'm pretty sure committee. And by the way, when we mentioned the word committee here Alex race. No, no, no. That's starting this weekend. Exactly. I would you rather pick up because most people are going to listen to this show before game start today, the first game, I think is at four o'clock today. And by the way, because of the draft, there's nothing at seven so people are on Twitter complaining about this that those games being played during the drip, but they're really not a game at four and then like the ten so replay the one at four that's a rescheduled game. Right. They didn't schedule at seven because they wanted the draft to get all the. Let me ask you this two guys to start this week. And we haven't seen them in a while Jimmy Nelson, Alex rest who would you rather ads for the week? Jimmy Nelson by a large margin because the race one isn't guaranteed. He takes Cabrera spot on Sunday. But I think it's like they say we thought he would who would you wrestle Morrison still but then it becomes closer. The reason for Nelson here is that when you throw a guy like this missed this much time it does a very good against the Marlins, especially in a home game. I'm going for that. I picked up chase Sanderson an a league because of the Marlins outing. The Red Sox watching last night as a Marcus Walden investor in a few leagues. I was frustrated. So map orange blowing it in the eighth inning is a six run lead. You can't throw strikes frustrated with the rain and the mound, and the unpire and walls warming. I'm thinking he's gonna get the ninth inning to save role is a joke. It's an absolute joke. If that game was eight four in the ninth inning, Brandon workman doesn't get to say, but he's still pitches. If it's eight five he gets to save. I this rule is, and there was an article about it was on the attic somewhere like this rules terrible. Anyway, we have to have saves just like we have to have stolen bases and fantasy baseball. I would like league without saves and without steals. There's not enough of either one. Like you're you're picking up all these Boston relievers. Like, none of them are getting more than one save week. No, Boston relievers gonna save fifteen games a season. I really believe that now I in less. They, they're the ones on kimbrel. I agree with you. And it looks like that's going to be the case, even if they traded for a guy in July, they won't be time, by the way. By the way, I met. Born is the best fit of any of their guys in their bullpen. He's really in their bullpen. But he's the guy clearly the guy I don't know that that's necessarily. I think that most often you're right. But I think that is a complete mix match bullpen and I actually like what they're doing with it. It's maddening for us. And I think that all this is going to do is in the future. Switch an awful lot of leaks into the plus holds and I I get that off were that I'm frustrated with, with having saves the category, and I'm getting frustrated with stolen basis, because there's just not enough of them. That's the thing is at least in this bullpen if you're going to draw from a committee, they have the arms that are going to give you enough quality in terms of the ratios on the case to be worthwhile. And I throw Minnesota's in here too. There are other bullpens going this direction that I don't want any part of as a result, and the cardinals are close to that. Well, tell Rogers got seven out save he's really good. Jose Alvarado should be doing with Taylor. Rod is doing. And maybe he will the only team I wanna talk Scott Oberg is Colorado's closer until way. Davis comes back, that could be this week. But you don't activate Davis week any other teams. I'm dropping hozeal Leclerc. I got no sense being in Texas of thinking clerk is getting that save that save back anytime soon. It depends on the context and the mixed leagues. You just can't burn the roster spot like this. But I'm still clinging to him in the only fair enough was clinging to some hash Browns after this listen up fellas DA excel's built for big until guys. Okay. Which means they've got closed built for style built for comfort investable Bill, three, you get this DSL spent years developing their own sizing patterns to deliver a great fit every time and every side. With over one hundred brands DSL, have you looked in great? So head to DSL dot com and check out a store near you DSL big until build three you DSL dot com. You say. Negative. But like I roster and Greg Holland in multiple leagues. And I was proud of myself, I pick the right guy. He had good April, you've got saves let me save how have in may two and none of it was his full. That's the thing like, right? You can say, oh, you had a bad month. He was clerk Jordan Hicks. No wasn't. How did nothing wrong? And AirAsia wasn't awful. They weren't like Detroit or Baltimore for the month, but he he has one save since may third. No other diamondback now in his defense. The bridge has been dreadful. Archie Bradley has been mess, and that has contributed. You know what my point is? My is look at it this way. I think that in Holland's case you turned a profit on them or at least you're very close to also wasted the last three weeks, one save last week's. But you knew that this wasn't something, you could take six months. I mean you didn't know there was no way I was a lot more optimistic than you. And I feel that I'm right because Greg Holland still is pitching really well to doubts and five. Past six outings. He hasn't allowed to run since may ninth he's doing his job, but they're not giving him safe chances. The chances you'll get the six months of this though. Any level of productivity are very slim with him. I disagree with you. I do it for three years in a row three, always giving you half a year of very good production, and the rest of terribly Fernando Rodney, who's now going to be on. Washington's bullpen probably got bought in tout NL and for good like a decent chunk of fab. I didn't look to see if he went in the labor and L I didn't have any moves to make their I had to actively Tyler Beatty is facing the Mets, I wanna believe you. You've seen them. There's, there's something something there. But yeah, it's going to be like, no, I was going to say like the giants are gonna win much, but it's a good ballpark. So he's not like a Baltimore Detroit pitcher. But I was either that or leave an absent Cal Cointreau active. I didn't get anybody I bid on, I still have a shot in both those leagues. I've blown a huge lead labor at an eighteen point lead. And then I fell out of first over the weekend. It's crazy. Our still I how fast things move there. And then Intel four or five teams that are all right there at the top, maybe I'll plummet after the straight. All right. Let's get some answers, you have such confidence in yourself. Eric Niccolo like. Like book standings change in these extra mouth, of course. Regular leagues too. I know that this four more months ago thought that I'm not confident. I just think I'm gonna finish second like to in every expert league this second places in that bed. Nikola says a question from Twitter, he wants to know with d- coming back who is his cut? He's got a mud resort or Scott Kingery. I'm not sure either have to be rostered, but I would probably Kingery. I, I do king required a bit. I think. He's going to be in the platoon with Jay Bruce essentially like they're gonna play Bruce and left field and Kingery center against lefties. And Michael Francke was really close to just losing his job. Overall and Kingery could play third. The problem here is gave capitals, one of his players still basis. So if Kingery was on almost any other team, I think he'd be stealing twenty bases on this team. Nobody is streams occur is not stealing fifteen basis on this team. Sorry, so resort. It was really rawal. He's really replaceable. He's nothing special but he's gonna steal more basis than Kingery and play more. So I guess I keep him around Phillies by the way are not in last place in stolen base. What do they have like twelve on the seventeen stolen bases? On the year. They are the only ones behind them. Are Toronto is fourteen and the cubs have thirteen but by the way, the Phillies K I you know, I thought their percentage success rate would be above league average. It's actually beneath it. That's why the running captain got mad. When says Hernandez, stole basil couple. Weeks ago took the bat out of Mike. Oh, franco. Sands, I don't know why he'd be mad at that. Well, you know what? Michael Franklin hitting hit terrible me, by the way, is a reminder to fantasy managers. Don't look at season stats, we're in June. Now look at the trends, if a guy batted one seventy and may with one home run. He probably isn't any good. That's my front go. I got a great April out of him. And that's it signed the move on. I haven't played them in weeks out. I just wrote a recent thing like this on Paul young who and I love the guy that I still think he has a lot of value to for people going ahead. But the batting average we talked about coming down. It hit a pretty severe way over the past ten fifteen days that it's something like eighty James the difference there is at least he best like clean up or third, if he keeps hitting like that, and that concerns me a little, I'm not I'm not ready to panic on, but their corporate turnaround last year it was like the first week of June was right around now. Yeah, yeah. It was the big corrections coming, by the way agree with you on the king reassessment, then Dennis DC on the case. They can make I still think in dynasty Kingery is going to be a top. Ten second basement and twenty twenty potential provider. But I don't see it this year. Your direct, sir. Next Shane's got a question on Shane green. He wants to know if you can push forty saves he hasn't allowed in earned run in twenty to twenty four appearances this year. Yes, he can and like I'm gonna go against and again like you he hates Holland he probably hates green to. Yes. Angry was bad last year, every four to sixty six year while we just forget about that. Yes. Shane green. We'll get forty saves. I think that'd be more apt to buy to believe in chain green because he's shown the track record of seasonal entirety. The yes. Like last year the as bad. Okay. Bad outings in September that really spiked his era. Yes. So if wanna criticize one month that's different from the Greg, Holland criticism, he could do it danger here is this. Okay. Do you see Shane green with eighteen saves in Holland had one last four weeks? Shane green could get one saving June. Like there's. No guarantee that he will continue. It's not something you can project ahead that Shane greens gonna continue to get nine saves a month. He's going to have a month with three. Yes. So be careful also trading season is open the royals everybody's available. The Tigers everybody Baltimore. Find a guy point is like I don't think anybody's trading for Shane green or Michael Gibbons trade teams are smarter now the training for Ryan Presley types of trading for your setup. Men now Joe Jimenez was good people be trading for him over Shane green, but he's not good. Like I what I think teams like the Phillies. I mean the relievers are thrown out there are awful right now. And I'm surprised they didn't get one from Seattle. They would've taken sores acade- was still there. Probably, I by the way, I do agree on that idea that these relievers aren't necessarily automatics to get traded. When you mentioned, the Presley example, that's gonna make people think that Presley was great at the time he was traded, what it was was the Astro saw something in him that they could correct an exploit and if other teams do that with green. That is why I think he would get treated. Exactly. He's going very heavily on the cutter and sinker right now. So maybe somebody sees a little tweak. They could make. And then maximize greens potential. That's when he gets traded Lori and when he gets traded to another team he ain't closing. He's sediment easy Presley. I mean, I guess the Phillies can do that. But like the Phillies have won closer and he doesn't get many save when they win. They win like six to one. They're not right. Which is weird because they're not like a dominant offense. They didn't score any of this weekend. Let me read something, I and then we'll get to more questions. Do you ever feel like ticketing websites make getting to the event difficult on purpose? It is, as if they're so big, they can get away with not caring about the customer experience. So what if their sites knowing doesn't have the events you want status quo? The real question is, how easy could it be? If those ticketing sites actually cared with millions, a live event tickets and a price match guarantee, Seekie proves. There's a better way. 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All you need to do is use the promo code download the seek app today and use promo code F, F B for ten dollars off on your first purchase. That's promo code F B for ten dollars off your first purchase. All right, germs wondering the same thing. I am here. Jake is E. S P three on the player Aitor. What are we doing with him sub to Yari right now? I got a message from somebody saying is the time to buy it on a good friend of ours. You're gonna have to tell me afterwards who it is. I from what of our Sibley, I'll say this. Like he's not a pitcher who's going to keep a one ninety six ERA for six months. But I remember I shares of in that sibling for years, and I had them in the other one, and I think I let him go finally. So that clearly explains why he's great. I like I saw pitcher with Tampa, who is somehow giving up too many home runs in that ballpark. And he always just had like a bed inning or two. But his whip was always much better in relation to his ear Ray. He's a guy who should have broken out Minnesota figured out now last year he wasn't good a high whiplash year. He walked too many guys. Now. He looks a lot better. But that home run rate is a little too low four home runs over twelve starts. I don't see how that can continue. So where he might win like eighteen games because twins are really, really good. They're arguably the best team in baseball with the Astros and dodgers that era has the I'll say the rest of the year that erase three fifty. But he wins like ten more games, and that's probably the appropriate amount of regression. I can make the case for being better than three fifty because something clearly has changed the average velocity. And the fastball is ups. Did you notice like isn't giving up a run and six of his last seven outings? Right. And the fact that he's missing bats to the extent did makes me think, okay. It's time to dig super deep like the Lucas, g Alito discussion. We just had just going to say they're both top five this year. Who do you like better the rest of what I g leader? I got ripped for leading my free agent report with him last week, because people are like everybody knows about g Lido an unbelievable percentage of ESPN. It was sixty four percent available when I wrote the article last week, I agree he should have been picked up. He was picked up an expert leaks. Of course, I'm not writing for those I'm writing for our audience, which is a ten point attend team points or rotor league. And if I see guy out there, shouldn't be out there. I'm going to write about him. I would still take g or over over ODA Rizzi, but keep Julia's doing. That's crazy. Penis to like we went a little in depth on this Thursday about what he's, he's changed something like there's a definitive change here. And one of the things that ties to odor. Izzy is that they've both shown the fastball velocity increase in release case, by the way, sinker usage. He's always had a good sinker. He never used it. He's using it a lot. Now about a quarter of the time. So something's different here. And I wonder whether we need to buy in g Alito by the way, the criticism and why I would endorse what you were saying about adding him, is that their schedule. They have the fewest games between now and the all star break, and they have one of the war schedules. And I'm still all in on G Alito at this point after digging deep, I all are you all in on order Odori about their I'm all into this perspective that I have to rank him as a top forty starting pitcher now, which is craziness, g alita, though, has the potential to be like Walker? Bueller? Okay. Like we might be ranking GIO, lido's the number twelve starting pitcher next year. We're not doing that with Ota Razi. I mean it's great what he's doing for the Vikings right now but he's not going to. End up as a top forty starting pitcher. I don't think like it's borderline. Save Viking up thinking of like sounding the horn now. I read a Todd Gurley article. I multiple sports. Tristan really for the dodge. I don't. I did more than you ask Tom basketball. Wow. Ember we'll show timber was right hander Jayco to Rizzi. I. This. Towns. In my mixed sport, dynasty, I have sport dynasty. I I just I. The difference is like the twins twinning winning ninety five games odor is, you'll get run support. And he's veterans. So there's no innings concerns. I so you're mean to me, and I'm going to be mean back did I ever call you a Jerko while show? Just call me out on sports now. This is the fun when I want to know what your perspective is on one thing, G Lido. We gave up on him. And I'm sorry. Everybody gave up on hill did this year. Yeah. So nobody can sit here and be like, hey, that was patient care. What do you care what people know? But what I want to ask is on. This is worse. The misread here was something he must have changed. I know he did. But now we're all back on board with all of this top. He was top ten pitching prospect. As a matter of fact, I think it was the number one pitching. Debuted. We're all right. Back in. Is it right to do that? When a pitcher shows that his skills have gotten back to that point, is it. Right. And how as if he changes, something literally changes something and emerges, the net changes everything. But I do not understand why that is now taking his criticism for not being quick enough to get back on board on a particular pitcher. He was awful last year. I admit I wasn't quick enough a month ago. But nobody was. Baseball changes. We were on board with more team Parisa couple of weeks ago and not to a high level, but because he had changed something, and now he's reverting back and I'm not on board. I mean that's how quickly it changes. But like when it comes to a pitcher's mechanics or batter swing or an approach. I don't have any shares Joey Gallo in my leagues this year, I admit that perfectly. I would've admitted it to him if you'd asked me the fact is I didn't expect Joey gal hit above two ten ever if change something. So so because he's changed something of I assigned you you're doing the dynasty ranks right now. And it's a five year rank does you do with that. What number starting pitchers Lucas Jalil today, you have to make that rank right now I'd say he's back of the top twenty I say between twenty twenty five and I'm exactly in the same number as you. And there are people who think that's too low. Well cares what they think I'm curious where you where you reside on. I like if you said to me Buehler Buehler, if you say, Jack, Larry, I think Flaherty, there's there needs to be some hesitation because he had a very long adjustment period. Get all the way back in here. I agree with that. But he might end up number twenty or eighteen because, like, what I him over James Paxton I might taxing the healthiest dude, what I take him over trying to think who else is there Kyle Hendricks miles, Michael assure both of them are not strike not hard throwers or young. So I guess it depends on what is to be honest with you, I you know, but, like I feel like I have Beulah ranked number fifteen no Geelani belong there. I might actually like more than you do. I've just been like, like I mean, in five years, come on. I know I know. Yeah, you're going for the high the top shelf stuff the things that the scouts when he debuted. And it does look like he's gotten a lot of them back a month ago, we would've taken farce Whitley for Chris sale. Everything changed that quickly. So, you know, if Mike O Franco, hitting fly balls again, he'll do what he didn't April. Sometimes I don't understand why the players don't change when it's obvious. What their problem is like Martine prison need another pitch. How come nobody saw the last five years? You know maybe they did player to listen. Like, look, I was in the clubhouse is the last couple of days. I know these players aren't listening, not some of the players are listening summer not, Joey Gallo Luis Ortiz his hidden coach got through to him and said, this is what you gotta do. If you wanna hit above two ten it's the best part of the game. Nowadays, though, the fact that these players are making such distinct changes. I find this just fascinating to research. I do. I love it. I love the story. And I was behind the curve. I guess I don't care that I was wrong. I care that what we shouldn't do is continue to be wrong when it looks like something changed, and that's what we've done on Gallo and unfortunately, veto, who's just it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen with Joey Votto. I'm sorry. I was wrong. I thought he was gonna twenty home runs. Twenty five he's not gonna even ten there's a lot of back on vodka. By the way, there is a singer. I'm sure there's a lot of you know what if bottle had we turn to twenty five home runs. The people that predicted he would hit eight wouldn't be saying a word, which is why I don't care about the able and. Going back to Holland. It's kind of like tying this whole thing together might take is never do your victory lap until October. I I'm not doing a victory lap. One Holland, I just disagree with what you're saying. I'm not saying you're doing the victory lap. I'm saying that in general any of us has fantasy managers never do a victory lap until October first when the stuff on the books, then it's time to. I won't even do it then because what's the point like it doesn't matter to me. But, but that's, that's when you appreciate where you got people follow me on Twitter, read my stuff, they don't need me to victory laps. Okay. Like Iman situation. Look, I do agree with you love around me as many times. Why would I do that you're my friend on with that? You were but that doesn't matter anymore. Like the point is we disagreed. And I took a stance and you took a stance, you're probably the majority nine tonnes, I'm going to be right with that. But man, he is a frequent nature as baseball player credible. Homered in the game. I was that he can from bos- just amazing player. And I should've known it. When I watched him hit the ball over the fence with you sitting. Right. I think you were sitting in my right knee hits that I come over the fence. I would one at bat. There's something I don't know. There's something about him that bucks every trend. Yes. And it's the same thing that bucks trains. I'm not comparing to flats father, but like not every player has to walk have your buys doesn't have to draw walks to be a successful player when he was striking a fifty percent of the time four or five years ago I was like there's still something here but I don't want any part of it right now. Just wait. I don't know. I still don't know why the industry was so down on hobby bias at the beginning, he was striking. Fifty percent of the time he was awesome last year. There was was last year with the batting average was going to aggress it, regress what twenty points a little bit. I mean that's going to drop them down out of the second round. That's crazy. Well, no it shouldn't, but and let's get the next. Okay. Rambling speaking of another guy with a high strikeout rate that's being productive. Austin Riley's got sixty seven at bats this year. Twenty five strikeouts eight homers where you guys ceiling as this year, and long-term. This can't continue if he continues to strike out like this. He's not modesty with the speed. He's. I think I'm getting dangerous here. A Christian Walker through stretches coming up for Riley it continues because they can pitch to indifferently. Chris Walker the first ruins the season awesome. The next few weeks. Not awesome. Awesome Riley, the same thing's going to happen. Pitchers are going to figure it out. Pitchers on good teams figure it out and he's going to two hundred over three period. He might hit a couple of home runs. But I I watch. Pat burrow like I'm trying to think like my comps. I don't think Austin rise hitting better than two fifty for the next three years. But I do think he's hitting thirty thirty five home runs. Don't you? Yeah. I mean, that's an that's an aggressive home run total throw at them. But I can see it because his, his value in its skills are tied very much indepao our at the expense of a lot of other things. The NC's comp, I think of in terms of how to apply the regression is Michael Chavis. I could see him chasing is awesome, though, James is not been that special over the past two weeks certainly been useful, but he has not been what shave was over the first two to three weeks that he writes, agers, he just happened. It's the same thing Walker Ceva same thing. And I provided this warning when Riley debuted and that is that he was promoted during the middle of outrageously. Good streak that could have continued on sometimes the players just have it over a period of time. I do believe in streaks and Riley's is going to cool at some inevitable period and it doesn't mean cut him. It's just the. Regression chaves. Fair enough. That's fair. We gotta last question here from John wants to know Julio to rise been on a roll of late over the last month. She we expect an up and down ride the rest of the season. Or is he a viable weekly starting candidate? So I go back and forth in the Toronto because I got him for a dollar in, in labor, and he didn't go to, and we talked about Levi didn't. But then again like he got Lester for a dollar, and I didn't go to I wanted to. I don't know why. Last Toronto pitchers that we didn't expect to be great. They're trends looked bad for Iranian whip and it may still be let's just been terrible late Toronto than even go succeeding at the time, but he doesn't allow any runs slim how like his fifth has to be higher than his ear. I haven't looked at it recently. But call it up in a league where you just need like one hundred and fifty decent innings. I just needed to Ron to have an era of four and get some strikeouts ten wins. That's all I needed out of him. And I have less talented of the same thing. Double digit wins gave me some strikeouts. Keep erase around four with a usable whip if you do that. That's okay. But Toronto lesser. I don't know why I'm throwing western into this question because he wasn't in it. But it's that's how I view it. Because my leagues and what I think about Toronto lesser to me. Don't need to be rostered in a standard mix points or rodeo do agree with that. They top fifty starting pitchers either them. Borderline I, I'd more make the borderline case on Lester. However, I've got a piece coming out that's going to do a little long term forecasting forecasting forecasting. Is that a word that does give the pro Tehran case? The walks are problem for him right now. That's what's changed over the past year. Plus, but the Braves and I'll read the note. Exactly. Seven times in their thirty three games between now and the all star break, they face do. They face a ten a bottom ten forecast agreed offense. So in other words, only seven times do they face one of the worst match ups in the game? And he can only mathematically face one of those teams one game during that period he's gonna great schedule. I think you need to get Tehran. Yeah. As a Phillies fan. The Braves are going to pass them at some point. But it should be a good race in September, which is all you can ask for. All right. Music stopped. I know what that means. Any find on Mondays baseball tonight podcast BUSTER, on our pal. Dave Schoenfield talk about the latest with kimbrel the impact of the amateur draft. And the Jay Bruce trade plus conversations with Aaron Boone and Zander, Bogart's. Find it on your favorite podcast app. Any final thoughts tristen? Yeah. I do have one for you Tehran has played seven full years in the majors. And do you know how many of those times he had a higher fifth in the area? Not zero. All seven. Also. Yeah. I at some point pitchers do outperform their peripherals and hitters to right. I mean like some hitters Babbel, B this little weird and some hit pitchers just pitch better than they should. And after seven years, don't we have to expect that with somebody like this? How many years do you have to see one's not enough every place? I can't tell you that it's not years. It's like your eyes tell you. All right. I've seen enough out of this player to know what he's going to do. And they will have better Erade than his fifth, and we're just one example, if they don't make changes and then with headers like I'm trying to think of a guy with a low bad, the bever year who's who's not slow or like a guy like hinders Morales who, who won. You're a three forty badmouth. I remember like it doesn't make sense. We know they're baselines usually it means higher. Elite ground ball percentages. They have extremely low hard contact rates. That's usually how you can tell when pitcher has. And my caution as I give so many times, the Matt Cain story when it goes wrong for these guys, it tends to spiral downward, right? There's a downside to lesser and Theron that you will not want to get any part of it's not happening this year and long-term for Hendrix as you raised. And I agree with you fully there. It's yes. Someday. I thought you seen what have an era of four four four four twenty this year. I really did. I was wrong, if I had to change something I was there was something interesting there. I thought he was going to be okay, and now going to have to cut them out. Although he's on the deal you can I'll him down for today's show. Thank you so much for listening, watch the amateur draft. Tonight, watch your baseball kimbrel, probably gonna sign before our next show. We'll talk about that on Thursday and preview the weekend then. So thanks for sticking around with us for Kyle for Tom for tristen. I'm Eric have an awesome day. Draft picks.

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Ep. 30: Jesse Finds Catharsis as the NL Central Tightens

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Ep. 30: Jesse Finds Catharsis as the NL Central Tightens

"Woah to. Welcome to the new best rivalry in baseball. Hey, hey, welcome to another ninety miles podcast. And it's been rough rough go for the cubs brewers Lali. This is ninety miles from Wrigley to Miller park, all cubs brewers, and yeah. You know, cubs been kinda scuffling and I don't know. I'm still like change. I think we should change the podcast and talk about two different teams this week. Yeah. Twins. The twins out the Braves. The cubs are playing the mound Braves. No. Don't care for the Braves that much anyways. Well, I liked them when they were in Milwaukee, even though I wasn't alive. Right. I could root for Baltimore. They were the nineteen o one will walkie brewers. That's something. Yeah. Talk about that. Terrible week. I guess we're gonna talk about. We got, you know, we got a couple of younger pitchers doing a few things for both the teams are gonna talk about them starting some games, desparation mode. We got head to head contrary versus grand all. So that's e- contrarius hands down Granville. Yeah. Right. Okay. So that'll be fun. Then we got actually talk a little bit about, then I'll central because basically. Yeah. I mean, any any team I mean, even even in an extreme situation, if the reds are pirates on absolute tear, they could be in first place with this bad as everyone's been doing their six games out there, both six games offers place. That's crazy. Broke away. The brewers are the cubs had the best African Unity to break away of any teams in neither could do it. Yep. Does then the pitching falls apart, the haters can't hit, everybody's running so western play baseball. It's it's Casten heroes in the minors. I'm let's talk about the Baltimore Orioles. Seriously? Yeah. It's a lot easier to talk about somebody else being bad than it is to talk about your team being bad. Yeah. And we can't even talk about teaming bad in the central because they've, I mean, I mean, the reds pirates are under five hundred but they're only six games out, so, you know, and they're not even the worst of, you know, when you look at all the majors they're quite a few more teams worse than them. So I don't know. Well, no. The division division. We thought was going to be really good right now. It looks like everybody's kind of the same mediocre is kind of how it feels I still think between the brewers and the cubs, there's more talent there. And there's a better chance for one of those two squads to make a run. Probably the way the bruise of implying in the starting pitching been going. Yeah. Yeah. You'd might have to give it to somebody like, don't know the cubs, but. Whatever. Burs aren't done going through their pitchers. They're just about done going through all their pitchers to see if there's any starters left, but the good news is the trade deadline's coming up from the walkie. There are some available pieces, but the systems a little thin we were talking about the Al central we might as well, just do you want to do the tweet of the week now should we jump in and do it backwards today? I mean I guess that's all right. Well, we already talked about the central right? There's a lot of things going on right now. Now, let's just do what we were going to do. We'll get to. Okay. Sensual has some, the central has some messy stuff happening wanted to talk about the two young pitchers pitch on them here. You know, for better for worse, I guess we're kind of saying that is it for better for worse for the teams that, that these guys are starting games? We got advert house lay and Adrian Hauser for the brewers. Yeah, I don't know if it's for better or for worse, but it's definitely for desperation, that's how I feel about it with the. Houser has he's been decent as a starter in the minor leagues. Nothing nothing. Outstanding some pretty good stuff. He's been very, very good this year out of the bullpen. He's been really lights out from the bullpen side. But now with every single pitcher, Milwaukee's thrown out there as a starter, except maybe Brandon Woodruff. They need somebody to step up and to start a game without giving up three runs in the first inning against the reds like they did three times this week, which was boggling back to back to back games that could happen. You know what I don't know a lot about ads lay though. So we're going to try and head to head or kind of for better for worse. Compare these guys, right? Feel about the cubs having to start ads late. I mean it's it's it's because mainly because Kyle Hendricks. And you know it was earlier in the year was there was. I mean he's he's basically a top pitching prospect, you know, he's a starter in the minors shirt, Taylor. And, and so there was talks about. Well, how are we gonna there's some way, we can get them? Get 'em. Somme J-League experience this year and you know, and then you got injury to Hendrick so that kind of open up opportunities, so they call them up, and he did you know, they have given them. Well, he's got eight point two innings logged. He did four innings kind of following up chat, would, you know on the on June twentieth? And then June twenty fifth just yesterday. He started first major league start for point two innings pitched one run. So. You know he gave up a few walks as well. Right. So it wasn't like it was a lights out performance. But sounds like it was pretty solid from what I four walks or strikeouts. But you know you know he threw eighty seven pitches, but yeah, I mean you you're going to expect that he's first major league start. I mean, let's see what he doesn't is fifth starter. If he if he does, you know, like, Kerry, wood, his fifth major leagues. No. I that's a obviously. Yeah. Yeah. You dream a lot and you dream big. We all love about just. -tunities to mention, you know, Kerry Wood's league stars. The best pitching performances in major league history. But anyway, so, you know, a lot of things can happen, you know, early in the career, but. That's not going to happen. He's not carry what he does not have carry would stuff. Let's just move on with our lives a little bit. He's a little bit of a different pitcher. But, but yeah. A little bit. But yeah, it's, it's so anyways, there was some expectation that he may come up and pitch a little bit this year. So that's where the object cut opened up. So I don't for better for worse. I in fact, you know, it's not good that Hendrix is injured. Of course. To bring you up some depth. I would say that's for better age league again. Yeah. Given given the circumstances, I, I'd rather I definitely would rather have him, come up gets a major experience. And despite what the performance might be add rather, he's in there than than like chat would or Montgomery starting games. I you know, at this point I you know Montgomery. I don't know what's going on with him. He's, you know, he he used I used to feel a little better about him coming into games than I do. Now, that's for sure. But sure anyway. And well, you know. But that's right into get into my side of it, too. Yeah. For worse Hauser I know we're comparing and contrasting the two guys a little bit. But it's two totally different situations. The cubs needed a guy to come up and fill in the cubs have generally speaking, very solid starting staff Milwaukee was counting on some young guys to perform this year. It just hasn't worked out. You know, Corbin burns did not work out, real well in either the bullpen or the rotation the way they handled him. Maybe wasn't the best. Maybe he should've gone back down, but hindsight's twenty twenty. It was good to try again in the pen because they needed bullpen help badly chase Anderson hasn't worked out real. Well, if you go down further and you keep thinking about it. Jimmy Nelson didn't really pan out, Freddie. Peralta is really up and down a lot of the guys. They've been counting on to pick up some of the slack expect before the season. We talked about the expected or I did at least three out of the five guys, the panel that were in the starting rotation ULA seen should be around a four point. Oh, ERA guy, he hasn't even been that good. You should have had one or two of the other young guys would drifts the one. That's panned out. Woodruff looks like a potential future ace if he can just close the door. He has one bad inning game. Basically, once he gets through that. That he's going to be ace material long story short in a four better or for worse segment. You can't really do for worse with Adrian Hauser. I mean really it has to be better really think you only think about it is he's not stretched out. Well, yes. Going to be something that's a little different. So he's almost more like like an opener issue or you know. Yeah. Yeah he did. He did have one start where he was the basically the opener. He had two scoreless innings. Looked really good. Basically, he treated it like a relief role as a in the majors this year. He's got a two point two seven ER as got thirty one and two thirds innings pitched, a one point two whip ten point two strikeouts, per nine innings really solid. Reliever numbers is able to stretch out. No, I don't know. But they're gonna give them two shots at it. I'm thinking what else? No, I'm looking at this. And I. Yeah. I mean as reliever he's been very solid. He's got a one point five year. A twenty five point two innings pitched as a reliever as a starter. Just six innings pitched seven point five yard. You know, I guess as an opener, you know, I mean as reliever. Yeah. Searching out. I mean, if he did an open a couple of innings that looks good at his other start than what he went Horning start for innings, and I think five runs five runs, basically his entire era for the most part is eaten up by that very first appearance in the big leagues this year, which was a start, I think, in April or may I don't recall. But I had it pulled up here, but long story short. Yeah, what other choice to the Bruce have nobody else's working out? We'll give them a shot in the rotation. Very I mean, what might have made sense to try to kaikal but, you know, or something. Thing. Well at that point in time, we had talked about it. This team isn't built to handle a big long term contract for a guy that's going to be what top thirty percent starting material. I don't know that Keiko's any better than that. At this point locking up a lot of money. I think the way they're looking at it. You're gonna want to maybe look at trying to sign a grand doll type a move stock as type after the season, the money, open some other guys. Well, here's the thing. They, they expected these g. I know it's been bad. It's been bad. Starting pitching for about the last three weeks and there's no question about it. They could help out there pitchers and score a few more runs, you know, that optioning Travis Shah and bring up Casten hero right here. People are going to be, well, then how are you gonna, you know, who's gonna play first base when there's a left handed pitcher. Don't worry about that stock is at third here at second and let let Jesus hit it. First and split with things. It's not complicated. You don't have to tune everything. Well, no, I peaked in on some arguments. You're having with some brewers fans on, you know, on Twitter stuff, and I, I do tend to agree you know if the pitchers give up seven runs. I mean you're you're I mean, I don't care if you bring up here, you can't score more than seven runs a game. You know, you're not. Nine six with. Yeah. Yeah. Right. But hey. Yeah. Number games that might not even be enough though. You know I mean with the way the pitching, especially the star starting pitching. What's the harm in having him on the field? Okay. That's not the only hole is all I'm saying that might be enough because, you know if the cubs go on a tear or he got the cardinals go on a terror. I mean you're gonna need more than just just here. I mean you know the pitching. It's it's been bad. It has been bad and the two games that they won. They held the other the opponent five runs. Right. You know, they've been giving up a lot of rice six seven eight a game. Here's a game where they, you know, against the Padres, they only gave up four runs. They couldn't win that either a game against the Padres. They lost by two to nothing. Do you think cast in here in the lineup might helped you know losing to the giants? When they only score three or four runs the argument that hero can't help a team that's got bad pitching is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Pitching needs to get fixed. There's no question the pitching these it gets fixed, and hopefully how's your can be a part of that fix. But there's no reason not to score more runs when you have the opportunity. That's asinine. Oh, you know what? It doesn't matter. If you're is up because, you know, the score one point two more runs a game, it won't matter if you're pitching sucks, you're right. It won't matter if the pitching, absolutely sucks. But every win counts and it's huge. They're in a slump right now having hero up allows you to win one or two or three more games that you might not have at this point until the pitching figures itself out. Yeah. That's my argument and oh my God, have gone on a tangent. I'm sorry. I knew that tell him frustrated. But yeah, how about that? Advert. Annals league. I. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no. I mean, I think that that's kinda I think we want to touch on that. So I mean, I you know, I think in the case for better for worse for the brewers. I mean obviously agent Hauser's is a much stronger much stronger reliever. But what, what can they do? I mean, I think it's it eight shows a whole whereas ads lay. It's more of. Well, there's an injury, so I mean, that's a different thing, and it's kind of actually, it's like okay, well might as well turn a negative into a positive and give this kid some major league some big-league spirits. But go no for sure. The burs. They have to do what they have to do right now. And the cubs had to bring somebody up, it makes perfect sense to give him some time in the big leagues. Yeah, we'll see what happens. You know, Meyer Yamin is still win as many games as you can even when you do have problems, which means you need to score more runs. But anyhow, yeah, that's, that's totally different argument. Today's thing I think both moves are for the better, the Bruce have nothing to lose by putting Hauser. There's an argument that you lose some really good relief. Help at the back end. But the whole staff is in disarray. You can't give up three runs every first inning and expect to win games either. So why not use the opener theory? Go Tampa Bay throws out there for two or three innings. Don't even worry about stretching out get it to Freddie Peralta, for a few start piggybacking. Do whatever you gotta do to get through the stretch. And maybe you can pick up a starter or a longer reliever at the deadline or bit of both. Right. Yeah. Do the cubs have anything they need to pick up at the deadline anything you're thinking would be nice to have since I keep referring to that wasn't really it wasn't really on the outline today, but it's just a thought. I you know, it's at this point hard to say, I still feel like they could use a little more depth offensively or some of the haters getting their crap together and, and hitting hitting the ball with runners in scoring position that would be helpful. I mean with kimbrough with kimbrel. Now, I you know, I feel like they're in pretty good shape. Pitching wise in general. I feel alright with that, you know Hendrix, when he comes back, I thought I saw something maybe around all-star break, maybe rate, after that kimbrel kimbro might he could be on the team as early as the last game against Atlanta potentially interested in a couple of days. So yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because we're recording this on Wednesday, Wednesday, so by Friday, and a couple of days, he could be on the team so that I think that will be helpful because there is still a little bit nervous tension. And and you know things with you know in the later inning. So I mean that we are talking about all that. How that's going to help move. Everyone into better spots as far as the the relievers. So that's coming up. So, yeah, I mean, you know, Hayward's been showing some some fire again lately. So that's been good contrary has been on a tear which I guess could transition us rate to control versus grand all head to head. We wanna do a little bit because at least a couple bright spots on the teams here. Yes. Yes, it'd be nice to talk about something that doesn't involve desperation EM rotation for Milwaukee. Yeah, I got a little a little excited. There. The I call me down talking about, you know, some of the good stuff. Well, let's talk about grand doll and contrary. You guys have some pretty similar things. Pretty similar seasons. And you know, and, and actually very to have such production at the at the catcher position is, is a huge, huge. Plus, so, at least that's a, that's a bright spot for sure. You know well without grand doll. I have no idea where the bruise would be right now. Yeah. Choson granddaughter? Yeah. Yeah. Good pick to free agent signings. Yeah. Huge pickups. You're paying them boatload of cash versus control us, but to get that kind of production out of there. I mean, not everybody, you don't have that many catchers, you can home grow that are putting up the kind of numbers that Wilson controllers putting up. Sometimes you got to pay for that kind of production. And that's what the bruise went out and did. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And, and no Katrina says worked out very well. I mean he's he's, you know, been great grand. All I mean, I, I remember, you know, see it. I mean, the cubs of seeing the dodgers a lot, the playoffs last few years. So, you know, and then just seeing the your I, you know, I pay attention, you know, being near LA, or in or living in L A last number years. I've paid maybe slightly more attention to the dodgers as far as non L central teams. So Ben familiar with strand all. But, but yeah, he's having a career year this year for sure. If the brewers picked a good time to sign him. This was probably the best possible year to sign him since his rookie year in twenty twelve he has not run with a higher batting average. He has not run with a higher Opie s the switch any catcher has figured out how to hit from the right handed side, which is something that the dodgers never seemed to be able to figure out. I love what I love about the grand ole signing is not only did the Bruce bet on them for a season but grand all bet on himself. And he is performing very well. He may get himself rewarded with a very fat very fat contract at the end of the season. Although he is a thirty year old catcher, so it will probably be a shorter term one contrast. They're putting up extremely similar numbers. So from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen grin Dahl and contrasts are eight twenty eight twenty four respectfully on Opie s granddaughter. Has hit more home runs, but control. I think I think sixteen was his rookie year might not mistaken for home runs for contrast wasn't twenty sixteen twenty sixteen. Yes. Because I'm looking at the game's grand all does have more plate appearances. He is ninety home runs. The fifty nine home runs. You know, he's out slugging him by a bit. But that's twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen really similar number. Then there that they should be the two selections for the all star game. The out, Brian McCann is at a nice season. Yeah. Don't you talk about contrast a little bit. I feel like I've talked a lot this episode. Yeah. I mean he I mean he's, he's just what's, what's great about Tuesay's got such a fire too. I mean he's just like you know, very enthusiastic very athletic catcher. I mean, you know, I mean even you look at I mean, not only solid catcher great offensive numbers. But I mean he can, you know. Base running and just kind of being in there, just in general. He's, you know, he's really. You know, a lot of energy for a catcher. I mean it's just like I mean, you, you know, I and actually I think he has put them in the in the outfield even you know, he's played actually he's played some left field. I mean so he's. Yeah. And his arm. He's got one heck of an arm lots of, you know, he can throw out baserunners. He does he can he throws over to I you know, an and has gone some assists that way. He's got what he's aggressive. He's got seven. He's aggressive from behind the plate. He is. Yeah he's not afraid. He's got seven assists to first base this season already thirteen last year eighteen into the in two thousand seventeen so you know, that's sure that's pretty good. And what that, that does also put him in position to occasionally commit some airs. He's, he's leading the league as far as or at least the National League. Catchers, go for errors committed with nine that's not a rip but necessarily because when you're that aggressive you're gonna have moments where you throw into right field. Yeah. Or you know the first basement maybe should made a play. But. You get the throwing error right, right. He's. He's got fi- five of those nine are throwing airs. That makes sense and then grand only has the four errors on the year. But you know that's middle of the pack as far as catching runners, you know, turning double plays Grenfell's got four turned as a catcher. I don't see I don't see control us on that list. But when you look at a couple other things where was it I had a number in front of me here? He's right up there for caught stealing percentage at thirty eight percent. Real mutual leads the league at forty nine percent. I don't see grand doll on that list, but he's been solid. But Kern, shares is the better arm at this point in their career you talked about flexibility being able to play some outfield. Grendel has played plenty of first base and his actually hit leadoff for the last three or four nights from Milwaukee. And that has been interesting to watch basically Milwaukee's been a little desperate to get the leadoff spot rolling. Well, when you got a guy on bass at a three eighty four clip, it makes them sense. The put them there, even if the wheels, aren't what they need to be, you know, Lorenzo Cain hasn't been what he was last year. He hasn't been what he was in his career. It's been an odd years has some thumb issues. So why not throw money grand all in the leadoff spot? So it's kind of a kind of a Kyle shore Brin the leadoff spot comparison away, and how they operate a little better batting average for. Yes. But. It's a some interesting stuff. These guys are neck and neck on their numbers across the board to point to war this year for yeahs two point one for contraire. Well and put these guys head to head tight contrary nine forty nine oh p s grand all nine twenty seven opiates plus, which I've been digging into a little more. I guess we'll have to do that. You know, grandma's got one thirty six oh, PS. Plus, so he's you know, thirty six percent of average for the position batter than average. You know, and Wilson shares one forty one opiates plus. Yep. So just so folks know at opiates plus kind of means basically, they take your opiates, and they adjust it to the average rate across the major leagues. If your well above it, that means you're x percent better. So one thirty six thirty six percent rider than the average Energi at that position. And it's justed for ballparks to correct. So it's kind of an interesting number, we're going gonna we're going to try and bring more of that kind of stuff. Yeah. Able, I know I did do. Some research I used at brew maths brew underscore maths to do a little research on Adrian Hauser. I didn't really drop it in the earlier segment. But he, he was expected to be about the third best quality of pitch out of the Bruce bullpen this year. Ironically, Josh hater was last so that tells you that not all sabermetrics are created equal, but these ones that we're talking about with controls in grand doll. I think they ring pretty true. When you start looking at their value to their lineup in their team. Yeah. And, you know, I think I mean okay if we look at controls, versa grandpa. Well, it it's not totally fair in the sense that I mean continuous you know, twenty seven years old, correct value on obviously contract wise. I mean contraire as is, is, you know, you know, in, as I think, as a lot of upside, he's continually improving, you know, he had a little rough year little bit of a rough year last year. He just had a seven thirty. Oh, PS, yet, ninety four Opio. Plus to forty nine batting average. And he admitted you know, he's, he's from regression. Well, yeah. Well he he admitted. Well, then he's you know, he's getting back to his mean this year because obviously doing a lot better. He did it he, he is from Venezuela. And he did admit, you know, he, he, I think was kind of distracted with what's been going on over there? And and he just something slipped. But he made some big adjustments big improvements in offseason. And now this series avenue, huge year could be his best season yet, you know, his numbers are career-best for sure so far. So and he's been picking up the last couple of weeks. He's just been he's been really good. So as, as grand ole he's been carrying the squad. These two are, if you wanna talk contracts that is an interesting way to kind of do the head to head for this. I don't know that we're gonna come to a conclusion on which will address better the better. I mean I don't know man. For what Milwaukee needed, for what Milwaukee needed grand all was a superb fit. He's a great pitch framer. He's part of the struggles with the staff may have come from grand all having to learn a brand new staff after being in the dodgers system for number years to pitchers are handled. A little differently out there. I'm sure probably a little more successful. If you wanna look at history now but grand all for the price to upgrade your offense at that position by that much, and not lose anything really serious defensively. That's a huge pickup. Like I said, with grand all the brewers would be arguably sub five hundred. Five hundred. Well, I can see that. Yeah. I mean, look at I mean consider this, I mean, the last nine games. The cubs are three and six. And. In control us in the last nine games. He's batting three ninety four with seven fifty eight slugging one point two oh to Opie s he brought his opiates from nine await to nine fifty two in that stretch. And sure he's got three home runs, twelve RBI's. And yet the cubs you know, obviously have other issues besides that. But, but yeah. He's been really good lately. I think if he keeps it up and the rest of the team can get get it together a little better. And you know that's that's gonna be huge. But well that's that's baseball. I mean obviously. Yeah. It's like me saying show if he ever gets his stuff together, or I mean. I mean Milwaukee we had this discussion go back and listen to last week's episode, by the way because we talk about the depth of the lineup for each squad, and that all plays a role in this because you had control says what your four or five best contributor? Yes. I had to have grand all in my top three Ryan. I didn't have a great case for anybody after that. Yeah. He was expected to have a bad ass line. I mean just by Ben. Okay. Yeah. Just by the numbers. I mean contrivances his higher than for the thing is, is the cubs got Rizzo Bryant and bias in which when the year comes in. I mean those three are going to be be up there. So to have control us also putting up those the similar numbers be fantastic, especially from the catcher position. Now, you know. You know, Schwarzer and, and, you know, Hayward he might end up. Well, okay year he gets hot again in may. You know and gets you know he had a good start to the season. And you know, but yeah, anyways. Yeah. Well the long and short of it head to head. These two guys are having very, very similar years. They've had very, very similar past four, seize contrary. Shes contract is obviously more beneficial to the cubs. The brewers went out and got grand all because they thought there are a couple of pieces away from making another World Series run, or at least the deep deep playoff run, if they don't get stuff together in the lineup that's not going to be the case. But I do think, you know, yes, is earn some extra money, somebody's gonna pay that man next year. And maybe it's the bruise. Maybe it's not. But there's no question that they have been big contributors to their squad. Yeah. Think it was smart of the bruised ego get grand all. And obviously was the cubs have done a great job developing controllers. Yeah. Well, I think what more we want to get into on concluded confers is better. So now we can move on. Grand all is the hero. All right. Oh. Eating. All I thought heroes the hero, but well he would all his ass out. Asa. Not that I'm bitter. Right. Right. Absolutely not. Yeah. Okay. All right. Let's get to tweet of the week. And, and it leads us right central because I think we need a little time to talk about about this. So. Sure. Want you bring it in for us. Okay. Well tweeted the week is Philip gray being at t h n D racquet, and it's actually replied to UK reds at UK reds MLB, so, yeah, the reds are really excited about their prospects. If we went by run differential day are so, so, yeah, I, you know, I mentioned just imagine if the season started on Tuesday, April ninth so reds, didn't lose eight of the first nine games, NL central would be cubs forty and twenty eight reds. Thirty five thirty two cardinals thirty five thirty two Milwaukee thirty four thirty three pirates thirty one thirty six, you know, Philip graving then replied to that thing or imagine for us path the Gordon win loss which we talked about. We just released that stretch episode where we talk about Ron differential now. So if. If you don't you don't know what that is. Check that out because we dive into that. But using the gore in win loss, which takes a new car around differential cubs would be forty five thirty three reds would be forty three thirty three cards, forty thirty seven brewers at five hundred thirty nine thirty nine in pirates thirty one forty five. So it's, it's an interesting division. I guess the, the teams are, are all kind of rate in there. It's all there's what a six six game spread from first to last six games. Yes. Which is pretty tight, especially now that we're getting close to. Well, we are half way at right? Aren't we? We are. Yeah. Yeah. We are on the right on the yes and thirty seven for Milwaukee. My quick math, forty plus thirty nine seventy nine games or a couple of shorter eighty one. Right. So and then close it also break as well here. So. That's pretty tight. And, and it's you know, I guess looking at the the gory win laws. It's just the teams some teams are under performing some are overperforming some are lucky, some are where they could be expected. They're winning. Well, it's, it's. Winning the way they're winning games is, is different not in the end. They're all within six games. So in the end, it's like, well, you know, the whole UK reds thing, just imagine if the season started on Tuesday. Hey how about I play that game? Just imagine if the brewers didn't get blasted by the Marlins won game. They'd have sixteen more runs is soon as you start cherry picking these stats. They become totally useless. I mean they're, they're borderline, they're borderline usable. And they give a good projection of what teams really are at times granted the Pythagorean win loss for the brewers make some sense, because the pitching staff is really struggled, and they haven't had the run scoring that they should so they look about five hundred. But then when you factor in some clutch hitting from grand doll, some clutch hitting dacas. You know, I don't know one of the best players in the world, you know, Christian yelich, and then Josh hater at the back end of the bullpen. Yeah. You're gonna win more games that are a little tighter, than you're gonna, you know, whatever. Anyway, I thought it was funny. I think it's, it's interesting to look at it that way. I just. I don't understand. So imagine if the season started on Tuesday, April ninth will great, let me take out the last twelve games for the brewers, and that's redo the numbers that way whatever. Yeah. Well, it's, you know what's interesting is looking at, you know versus. Versus a central. Brewers are pretty good. They're twenty and twelve. So there anything, they're beaten up the most on their opponents, but they are six and eleven against the west to five and interleague eighteen twenty one the road drug alled it's almost like they built their lineup in their structure to be really good against the teams that play the most. Yeah. Well, sensible is that doesn't doesn't seem to be. Until they've, they've just stunk against some teams that this should beat. And it's really, yes. It's really it's really come on in the last three weeks. You know the Marlins. Yes. Of where it started. And right. Well there it's been three and seven a rough stretch for the pitching and seven three seven last ten ten and ten last twenty and fifteen fifteen last thirty. I mean a five hundred sure club when you look at the last thirty games. Well that tells you, they bad they played bad teams there that should. That's why it was vitally important to get through April. The way they did. In fact, they've been fortunate that they got through on really a big plus side coming out of April, which was unexpected but baseball baseball, and they've struggled against teams they should beat. It's frustrating fan. Yeah. Good thing. You're really, really digging in this season, you know, since we're doing this podcast, it's been probably a lot of fun for you. Hey, no, no, no, no, no. There was a stretch last year where I was just as frustrated the five games in pirate. They lost the next game after the all-star break. It was well the way they're losing to the pirates to that red series started out the same way. Just there was a stretch games. The couple three before the red series and the red series the way it started where just felt exactly like that. Except kinda worse, the reds would you know a home. Run ball off the top of the fence and a home. Run ball off the fair poll in the same game as just, you know, the fire blows a strike call puts guy on first base. Of course. The next guy hits, three run, Jack off the foul pole. Oh my God. Yep. Well, wow. I've been really frustrated this week. This has been cathartic talking with me Ryan. You've been pretty nice. I've been surprised even harder on myself. Yeah. Well, takes the pressure of me, I guess, and you know. I have my complaints about the cups. I'm excited for kimbrel. That's going to help a lot. Sure, I'm excited for Hendrix comeback. That's gonna make a big difference. And I'm excited to see, you know, see a little more power from Bryant, you know. And just in general the offense starting to hit with runners in scoring position that would help. But, but yeah, I mean looking at the rest of the central I mean, the cardinals somebody, the brewers could run away with this division to the cubs could ran away with the stuff. Yeah. In the past two and a half we s I think that's one of the things that's so frustrating, the Casten hero thing, bothers me, not only because of what the numbers are. And what they say could be. And it's not necessarily you know one hundred percent guaranteed. I get that. But it's frustrating to watch when the team struggling when you know the cub. Are struggling. And you know there's something you could do about it. And you don't do it. That's yeah. Because. Well, yeah, you've got that with the birds that's extra frustrating. I mean, you know, would you know you can't really the cubs kinda have done what they can. I mean offensively. I think they're okay, it's cups half and frustration, you know, other than control us lately, low frustration offensively and then and then otherwise it suspend waiting for kimbrel. So that's gonna tighten everything up there, I would say, I would go this far. I'd say Milwaukee won the off season. And a lot of ways, and I would say that the cubs are winning the NC's in when it comes to front office maneuvering like that. Well, yeah. Milwaukee obvious there's been some unfortunate luck. Well kimbrel. Yeah. But even kept him away from the brewers, right? Getting cargo. Yeah. What I would say is losing Canabal is unfortunate not have. Ving any of these young guys turn into anything other than Woodruff who I kinda thought would outside of those guys not developing. That's some bad luck. So it's, it's fun as it was the do these podcasts in February. It's really interesting to see how the seasons developed 'cause you could never see half of this stuff happened now. And yeah, ozzy's. I mean jeez. I you wanna talk about not expecting one thing. I mean the cubs let Tommy Lee Stella. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's you know, but you know what? You can look at that, and it doesn't really matter because he wouldn't have been in a regular starting role with the cubs anyways. So I mean great for him. He's at least he's a you know in the American League with the angels. So whatever get him some playing time. Yeah. And and but yeah, he's, he's having a sick season. Eight sixty to Opie as batting three hundred. He's got sixteen home runs. I mean that's just ridiculous. I mean, he was kind of, that's probably how I felt you, if you go back to three years. That's probably how I felt a little bit about Milwaukee letting scooter Ginette go turning into a home. Run machine for Cincinnati. You know, hitting over three thirty in season. The thing is sometimes that change of environment is a big deal. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he, he hit in from two thousand fifteen to two thousand eighteen with the cubs. He hit nine home runs. He's got. Right. Yep. You know. I mean he he was an incredible pinch hitter. Very good. Pinch hitter. Kind of we kinda missed that we don't really have that, you know, not like as good as he was. So but, but anyways, yeah, I mean again, looking at all this, this stuff, you know, Goldschmidt, it's not been so great. So, but of course, I just did one before we get to far into the break down there just want to say, I love most of what David Stearns has done. I'm just really frustrated with one thing, and that's it outside of that. I think he's done a fantastic job. I'm not here just. Yeah. Whining, and moaning about everything. He's done going out and getting Ben Gammel, looks really brilliant right now. You get a left handed bat off the bench comes in plays. Great defense, an upgrade for the bench. If you wanna talk benches. That was a big upgrade for the Milwaukee bench over Domingo Santana, although Domingo's Santana last down the stretch last year head some huge pinch hits as well. Yeah. I did just want to get that in there. I am David Stearns fan. I'm just really annoyed by the situation with the lineup. No. I can't say anything bad about THEO. Obviously, you know, maybe he's well, I mean, you know, come on. I mean he's, he's hall of fame caliber, you know. I mean go read, so I had that role I'd have a fifty fifty shot at being hall of fame, caliber to come. Wow. Okay. Maybe now. All right. We like to pretend were GM's here. Just a couple of fans. Duke it out. Yeah. So at least today I got to express my frustration. I feel so much better. I'm surprised it was kind of a kind of fearing the podcast. But I feel a lot better now. I'm glad I'm glad I could help. I, I you know, I don't know. It's I I'm to some degree you're -tated to see see. I mean the cubs should a broke away here. I mean it it just so I can't, you know, I'm not in a way. Same way as as easily. But, but in any case. The cubs. The cubs are. Yeah. Yup. In I they are a seventh if you look at all major leagues, you know, just as far as win percentage you know, so they're in. They're up there with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. They got these four games against Lanta which that's going to be a good test while they've played to they got to more, you know that's that's good. You know, dodgers are are at the top and the twins and the Yankees in Houston. They've sure you know been rolling cardinals down and thirteen while, you know, when you look at all everything that's gone wrong for everything that's gone wrong for Milwaukee in the last three weeks. They're still the top wildcard. Okay. And they're only a game. That's where you're frustrated is only a game ahead of me off because, you know, if they put their stuff together, it's going to be a race again it's been amazing that the entire central division. I mean, the I guess. Berg Cincinnati are six and four over their last ten but the entire division is struggled Saint Louis, yes, it's about same. See what happened Jordan. See that. So Jordan Hicks. That's cute at is going to be tough for them to deal with. So he's going. Yup. Tommy John surgery for Jordan Hicks. The guy that consistently throws one hundred to one two torn UCLA. He was. He was running with a three point one, four ERA thus far this year. Real tough guy to hit cards, still have Andrew Miller. They slept breath. Be the big one to step up. But that's a huge blow. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's a Corey naval type of blow to that. They don't have that shutdown guy, you know, anymore, and I know you know, the cubs going without that. I mean that's why I'm excited for kimbrel to come in it. It makes it tough. They're going to have a tough situation now, having to, you know, put put their relievers in positions that maybe they're not gonna best succeed in and yeah, it, it really that I think that's a huge blow. I don't wanna see injuries ever, but you know, it's like, well I mean. More more problems than that, though. They've also have have pretty underperforming offense in particular Goldschmidt, seven seventy Opie as I mean to fifty six batting average. I mean, you he's only got fourteen home runs. I mean you gotta expect there's gonna be some progression. His mean at some point, which is a little scary. Well, yeah, because he's who would you rather have right now? Who would you rather have right now? Josh bell of the pirates playing first base for you. Oh, goldschmidt. Yeah. Josh bells, Ben. That's how good Josh bell is the other side. The flip side. The Anna three eleven. He's batting got an opium of one point zero one three twenty home runs. We haven't talked about a much on this podcast, but between him and FREDDY Freeman. Yeah. Those are kind of your to first base stars. I know rizzo's on the ballot tube but those who have I'm sorry they've had superiors Rizzo thus far resolve fine player. But yeah, you think about it Goldschmidt or bell? I mean long term, I think Paul Goldschmidt, s- going to be dominant again by the end of the year but Josh bells having an incredible season. But yeah, that's another thing hurting that cardinals lineup big time is not having the anchor, they expect right? His numbers were you're going into his numbers. I thought. Goes interrupted you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No I mean I was just mentioned. I just mentioned. I mean, seven seventy oh S is, you know, I mean, he should be nine hundred plus for sure. Right. So P S. So I mean you Goldschmidt is he should definitely be. I mean at least at least Rizzo rizzo's nine fourteen Opie s he's got nineteen home runs. I mean he really is having a good year. I mean Freeman as you mentioned twenty one home runs. He's got a nine ninety one Opie s and yeah, like like you mentioned with Josh bell already his, his numbers. I mean, you know, sir. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. I mean, that is a tough both of the cardinals have such an underperforming ultimate, so I that's fine by me. Yeah. We're not. Yeah. Keep them healthy and keep him suck. That's fine. Yeah. I didn't wanna see Hicks. We wanted to wrap up on Hicks to. I didn't wanna see him. No. Because actually really enjoyed. I enjoyed watching Bruce hit off of him. Yeah. Now granted, it's always tough. But well that high heat yellow chips that it's fun to watch him hit against some of the best pitchers granted, you don't hit it every time. But it was it is disappointing to see that hat. I mean as much as I hate the carton. Yeah. Don't wanna root for that. Consider consider this the cardinals for qualifying starters offensively. They don't have anyone over nine hundred Opie s at all in their lineup. Awhile, and they only have to over eight hundred everyone else's below eight hundred including Goldschmidt, Molina's six seventy nine Opie s. Yeah. I mean that's, that's not. I don't think that's often sake. We're expecting especially adding Goldschmidt. I mean ozone Duda, and Paul Dejong are the only two over eight hundred Opie s so I mean ozone ah. You know, he's well he was hot earlier. He's, I guess he's eight thirty seats. He's, but he's got twenty home runs. And I think that tells a big story, we keep talking about Pythagorean puts oriented wins losses easy for you to say, yeah. Runs scored run differential Saint Louis as a plus eleven run differential. They're literally rate were they're supposed to be. But when you start talking about their lineup. That's tells a different story. I almost tells a story that they've overachieved at times this year. When you think about the offense, they're putting up. Yes, no, I that granted they've had they've had pretty decent pitching three hundred and forty seven runs against put somewhere in the middle. But what is not a that is not a team that I fear here? I think that's why the Jordan Hicks thing is such a huge blow. I mean, in some ways him being a piece in allowing that those relievers to lay out the way they should is probably the only thing that's been keeping him a float. And now you lose Jordan Hicks. And if the offense continues to scuffle I mean, there, hopefully they get buried, there's been there's been some Saint Louis fans that haven't been happy about the way that pens used to begin with rice. Right. This'll be enter this'll be interesting to see how it lays out Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh's being Pittsburgh. Their minus seventy six run differential, but only five games under five hundred. Yeah. Kind of interesting as well, really? They should be much much other there. Look air lock. You might have passed. The gory unlock is five plus five for them. Whereas Cincinnati dragged if seven so they, they they're kind of opposite stories, yet they have the exact same record, you know, thirty six and forty today. So that's interesting. How despite the different make-up's that they have the same record right now. Well into to dig in one thing on Cincinnati. To the brewers lost Derrick Johnson Cincinnati. They're pitching coach. He went over there this year. There are they've given up two hundred ninety one runs. The Milwaukee Brewers have given up three hundred ninety nine runs their, the Milwaukee pitching staff is just about in shambles. Cincinnati staff seems to be hanging in there doing quite well even though the Bruce seem to take Louis castio when they do get hold of. There is more and more grumbling, especially on the fan side, that maybe you and there was before the season two, we talked about losing Eric Johnson. We didn't know what we're gonna get. You've got a rookie pitching coach first year in the big leagues as a pitch in code. Yeah. To keep the staff together, it may be a bigger factor than we want to admit it's hard to say. But Derek, Johnson's obviously done a nice job in Cincinnati. It's hard to keep that many runs off the board in that ballpark. So right anyway. Yeah. Anything else you want to add and the NL central breakdown that was a long one for. Yeah. Dug in a little girl, you know we're getting close halfway through the season. It was worth looking also just because it's six games. Six games separating. Yes. The entire division is pretty crazy. So I yeah. Well, the thing is all five of these teams are capable of going on a ten game winning streak and it'd be in first place potentially at the end of that whoever it was even if it was Pittsburgh. Yeah. All of these teams are capable Josh bells ridiculous. Pittsburgh has an okay starting staff. I can see Cincinnati. Putting some games together, no doubt about it. Derek Dietrich not liking that guy much and stick your elbow somewhere else. That boy, cathartic park. Yes. Yeah. In better. Yeah. Let's get the prediction. Yeah. Let's get done here. So predictions, I guess while we got a couple to conclude here. I made that prediction about you Darvish, his last start that he'd yet a ws he's pitched didn't didn't happen. You had. Well, you had one as well. Yeah. I had one that ended this week. It was I was really this was more of a betting with my heart than betting with my head's. Right. Well, that's what I did with the with the Darvish one too. So that's why we're so good at this right, right? Yeah. Well, we make ridiculous predictions and see what happens last week, I predicted in the next six games, Braun, Sean themes, would combine for six home runs. So they're sort of on June nineteenth that concluded that they combined for two so Braun head one and Shaw had one. Socia- basically hit the longest bomb of his career and didn't do anything else, and then Braun was actually very solid and across the week in general. Just only had the one home run a ilar themes did not take one out of the art. Yeah. So that's a fat L for me. I and I guess it should give the numbers to on the that Darvish third. He, he went six innings, not seven and Ota, gave up four runs six strikeouts. Two walks he did give up two home runs. So yeah, that's, that's what happened there. I you know. I guess. I guess we gotta make some predictions. Yeah. We, we do have to make some predictions. I don't know where you are at as far as being ready. If you got one, you should definitely get it out there. Oh here quick. I don't have one prepared at all. You know what I was going to do? Okay. And I know what I'm gonna in. It's actually I haven't made made an end of season prediction and a very long time. But I actually I'm going to basically, I'm going to double down, you know, on the contrary grand all thing you made that prediction, and episode twenty seventy said grand all will lead catchers in the National League in war and have twenty eight plus home runs you made that prediction. I'm I feel very confident that could actually happen even though that is a bold prediction. It's bold send us season. And, and, you know, so you made that prediction, and basically, I, I'm so convinced that's not gonna happen that. I'm gonna I'm actually going to predict. That, that. I'm gonna go ahead and predict that contrary as is going to lead. The National League in. In war war ups based on that. You just copycat another prediction of mine. The double down. Yeah. So basically what will happen is all win my prediction. You'll lose your it's just like you know, the brewers losing. And then the cubs winning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a full game. Right. Right. S-. So that's doing here. Homerun wise, you know. Let's. I'll go ahead. I'm gonna duplicate it. I'm gonna say twenty eight plus as well. Okay. Well, that seems reasonable, both these cancers are on pace to have right borderline careers. I would say, it's, it's exciting to see some, some really great catching in the division here. Again between these two guys. Yeah. So that's, that's the other the other clubs have some okay except that, that prediction. It's, it's. Yeah. That'd be much the same exact thing Myers, just contraire as. Yeah. How can I argue again right there? Yeah. We just discussed. They are and and besides for one or the other of us is going to be a full full full game. Swing essentially, so or we both over both wrong. That's true. It is. I don't forsee but it's right. So I think he's actually leading in war last time I checked, which actually that might have changed now. But, but yeah, that could be. Okay. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna make a prediction here, and I kinda wanna tie it to the Adrian Hauser conversation. The hard part, here's, I'm not sure exactly how they're going to use them. So you're going to have to help guide me through this a little bit. They are promising. Basically, they're promising him to starts. I'm expecting he'll go maybe three innings tonight. And maybe four or five on July third, if that's his next expected start unless they bump into the fourth. I'd like to predict that he only gives up one earned run in his two starts combined. Whatever that is if that's used as an opener. I don't think it is. I think they're trying to stretch him out. But I I'm betting on desparation along with the brewers here. Open that this is. Yeah. This is going to be one that will work out. So one earned run in two starts for Houser. However many innings however many innings he pitches. I don't expect him. My expectation is that he goes, three maybe four tonight and they try and search him to four maybe five in second start. But it hasn't been made perfectly clear what the plan is there is the possibility. They only use them a couple innings both times, and they bring somebody like Peralta out of the pen, a Jimmy Nelson pitched last night. So I wouldn't expect him to be the piggyback if they do, do the piggyback thing which frankly might be kinda smart right now with how the seasons going, but is that bold enough? Or do you want me to do something a little different than that? Boy. Is it bowl? Nuff. I feel like one earned run for a guy that gave up five the last time he started. Well, when they tried to stretch him to four or five innings he gave up five when he did an opening job. He only gave up he didn't give up anything. Right. Right. So it could be if it's the opener situation where they just run them out there for two innings both games. I can seize euro earned runs, not being that bold. Because he's a reliever right? Kind of. Yeah. Well that's that's stretch him out. That's if they're stretching him out, which I expect them to do because they need a starter. Right. That's true. He's been a starter all the way through the minors. If that's not bold enough. I have a backup prediction. That's unrelated. Let's see, so detailed, again, one earn running his next. His next to start. For anybody else. That's not been an opener. That's pretty bold. It doesn't matter if that's clean. No, I agree. I agree with that. You know what I'm used as an opener because then that's not all right? Let's put a minimum. Things pitched. Yeah. There let's put a minimum number of. Let's say you ask the pitch at least five innings in the two starts combined with only one is that enough? How about six five innings total six? Yeah. Yeah. Six innings with only one earned run. Yeah. That's three equality or. It's hard to predict a quality start telling me that a guy over two separate games. How minimum innings pitched, I'll meet in the middle five and one third innings. Minimum one earned-run. Yeah. All right. Fine. What? All right. All right. Yeah, that's fine. Remember, if he gives up two run home run tonight, the whole thing shot. Anyway. So it's that would be six innings one earned run for any pitcher on any given night. Very bold. Yeah. All right. I'll go without going over to starts pushing it five and a third minimum okay? Because if yeah. If they use them as an opener, he won't go five in a third he'll go. All right. Right. So you should be safe if that's your fear. That is my fear. All right. Well, I think that was pretty. Yeah. Predictions, we've wrapped them up, by the way, we've also got a giveaway going on. Make sure you go to ninety miles podcast. The more people we have subscribe, the better the press, we're definitely ramping up to possibly raising the level. Yes. We've got we've done pretty well. Keep telling your friends, let him about if you enjoy the show. Yeah. If you enjoyed the show, leave us a review, whether it be what are your favorite streaming site? Yep. Yep. And yeah. Then out of. Yeah. And. Spread the word on the on the on the contest, as well or the, the giveaway thing. So, and if you if you've been hearing us talk about it, and your regular listener, and you haven't signed up, yet, don't forget to do that times running out. So do it. You know, that'd be good. Absolutely. The other thing we haven't talked about much is Howard, treating the stretch episode. Hello. Yes, we're stretching out the stretch episodes a little bit. We're going to do one every couple of weeks or so inbetween Ryan, and I are going to try and get some blogs up to kind of fill some space that way as well. We hope you enjoy it. Please leave us some feedback on what you like about what we're and what could be different. Also, we do need to come up with something, and I think we should put a term on it. I haven't talked to you about this. Okay. We need a we need a consequence for losing the prediction. We do. We do need that. I mean, we got some time we did have one we do, but I think we. Should be able to talk about what's going to happen. Why don't we come up with something by the all star break. If you have an idea out there hit us at Twitter. I'm at at brew crew winning Ryan where you at wraps cubs win. Hit us with your ideas, and maybe we'll put up a poll, and what is the loser at the end of the season going to have to do to embarrass them. I mean, we do have some time to figure out because it will be won't be when the season ends, it will be probably late November before we actually this season, all comes in, because it looks like well, I'm looking the last things we will that will need to be put to bed are Cy Young votes, which I think have been mid-november typically so so it could be decided before, then based on record. Sure. But, you know to feel fischel. Got actually occur. So, but we'll yeah. We'll we'll figured out and but yeah, let's, let's get outta here. Okay. Sounds good Cup suck. Cubs. They're the best. Worst best. Okay. All right. We're side by.

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"Hit home run and get pre-approved for your next refinance or home purchase at the home loan expert dot com enjoy the podcast this cardinals broadcaster and Chinooks Shopper. Dan McLaughlin Chinooks would like to thank everyone during this difficult time that includes those that are working in the stores as you can imagine. During this time Chinooks employees are putting in long hours around the clock to best serve our community so the next time you're in Chinooks tell them thanks and that you appreciate them. Let them know how much we appreciate their efforts because we will all get through this together. It is a Wednesday and every Wednesday we visit with Brian Walden of the car donation dot com. He's got great insight into the minor leagues and also what's happening with Major League Baseball. The CAR DONATION DOT COM. We call this Wednesdays with Walton. As Always Brian. Good morning to you. How are things Great Dan? It's always a pleasure to be on. It's always a pleasure to visit with you and I know so. Many fans are curious about not only league baseball but a minor league season. What are you hearing on the latest of Minor League Baseball? Well there's no doubt that everybody's priority right now is on trying to figure out how to get the Ju- Leaguers back as soon as possible but the safest possible in while there's a lot of optimism around the game you know there's also that thorny questions of testing and keeping people safe haven't been worked out yet and once that does get resolved and there's a plan that could be. I think attention will go to the minor leagues and the most logical scenario right now would have teams assembling in their spring training locations and have some type of season that would be. Kinda like spring training or extended spring training. We're maybe you're scrimmage get yourself. Made scrimmaging gets teams in the local areas. But I think the one thing that folks do seem to be pretty well Accepting is the ability to play and one hundred sixty different towns across. Us The summer for Minor League Baseball. You know isn't and if there are no fans in the stadiums then there's no there's no incentive for the teams to be a business because you know selling tickets and concessions are there total revenue stream so if they compensating for minor league ball. It seems like it's going to be most likely it'll be something in the you know. Jupiter's of the world however minor league players trying to stay in shape during What has been such a difficult time for any pro athlete right now. Well the cardinals are doing a great job of keeping in touch with everyone as probably organizations are and they have a plan for each of them to work on the performance organization under Dr Butler and the strength and conditioning folks. You'll have play as we player. And they had to customize it because You know nobody can get into gyms right now for example health clubs at least in most of the country and you know some guys have access to batting practice of breading cages and others may not some guys may just be able to long us and you know some can have better step. They can pitch against live competition. Other guys can't so you know everybody's a little bit different turns of what they have to work with where they are but of course the idea and we've heard both John was as it might shed say this the ideas to kind of have everybody in January kind of level of preparation where they've started to ramp up but the pacers aren't throwing it full of Alaska yet. That kind of thing because you know they want to say bullets in ramp them up whenever spring training to able to start in terms of who benefits coming back if we base boy. I know you've kind of really had a a long look into this. Who Do you think benefits potentially from that cardinal roster well at the at the initial point you say well it's easy? It's the guys who were had mild injuries during spring training the miles Michael S.'s. You know for example who you know look like wouldn't have been ready to start. The regular season cease all. You know we're not sure about him. And we Miller was another one who was kind of banged up. You know so those guys should be able to you know whenever they come in you know should be ready to go again but the guy. That intrigues me. The most on the pitching staff is Jordan Hicks because as folks remember he required. Tommy John Ligament replacement surgery last June. And a normal twelve month kind of Thirteen metro would have had him back around the All Star game early July and everything seems to be pointing to him being on track for that. And we don't know what it's control is going to be like when he comes back we don't know if he's GonNa be thrown one all three right out of the gate but Jordan Hicks is a closer to Saint Louis Cardinals. And if he's available you know. I think he might get a chance to show if he can do his job or not and if he can he could potentially be available for most all of this schedule and It's the one area that there's worry. Obviously the scarring. Kitching is in great shape. We know about the six guys on top because the convers Pasta Leonce in Hell's lease and Cabrera's back him up yours ten guys right there but the bullpen depth wasn't necessarily strong Hicks could somehow contribute this year. It would be a huge benefit for the cardinals. Guy That You talk about dealing Carlson. I'm just so intrigued with this young man. And it's unfortunate right now. It's a law season but How do you think he approaches? Twenty twenty and the cardinals approach it as well. Yeah from the position player perspective. There's no doubt in my mind that don't Carlson could really benefit from this delay. And the reason I say that is we don't know yet. What the size of the rosters that Major League teams will be allowed to bring. We don't know the construction those rosters. We don't know if those rosters will be set or whether they'll be able to change we don't know if non forty nine players still gonna cost costume could be added in. Will there be a taxi squad. And if there's a taxi squad guys who aren't active would they be accruing certes time during those days that they aren't accurate because one of the big concerns about doing Carlson aside from the fact that there isn't a place to start necessarily in the lineup? When concerns was Heiki started service cock the beginning of the year and he puts full year in. You know you lose them a year earlier free agency they're kind of tax discovery isn't accruing service time then the issue gets down to work and you play him and guess what the schedule. The way the organization that that we seem to be gravitating toward is one in which the National League in the American League teams will play together and common sense tells you if that's the case there's probably going to be a designated hitter if any hitter. Now you've got one more BAT IN THE CARDINALS LINEUP. And who better than it either easier or maybe extra fowler someone like that becomes guys here in cost place in right field and you potentially improve your defense as well so. I think both Jordan Hicks and potentially Dylan Carlson. Depending on algae structure the the rosters are to benefit the most from this delay. Absolutely good points a lot of news with Yada. Your Molina saying he wants to play beyond twenty twenty. I wasn't shocked at all. I thought that was the direction he'd go anyway. But there was indications that if it's our the cardinals he would play potentially somewhere else. What did you think about his comments? Well I thought he was basically taking back control of his career. You went up. I think we all kind of surprise when Molina said hey you know if the cardinals want me back. I'll play and if they retired before I play somewhere else he basically said. Hey It's GonNa be bills as to whether I you know whether I continue or not. And he's decided now given that he's not he's losing a half a season that you know. Hey I definitely WANNA play next year and he knows that the cardinals are dragging their feet on offering him a new contract because the way the rules are set up that collective bargain agreement. A player can only receive a no more than a twenty percent reduction in salary from year to year for an extension and Molina makes a year. He was high speed. Cardinal Prior to the Goldschmidt extension. But he's getting to point his career. What you say. Twenty Years Steep. Maybe even sixteen million is a little steep. And there's no reason to not wait and see how. Molina plays this year if he stays healthy and all before you commit as much that much money him going the future so this is something that the same scenario happened with Adam wainwright now granted. Eddie wainwright was coming off some injury plate years but he was coming off a five year contract and he actually had to become a free agent before he could accept a lower deal for the in his first year. His FIRST YEAR. At the cardinals. Twenty nineteen after that know he had very incentive laden contract only two million of the ten million that added wainwright made last year was guaranteed. He earned it back because he basically outperformed everybody's expectations other than his own APPS. I you know. There's no reason why Melina couldn't couldn't come back on some type of contract like that. We're you know the more he plays with better. He produces the mortgage paid makes sense I thought this was interesting. You've been writing about the cyclical nature of the minor leagues. When you add teams teams get contracted and it's been going on for a long long time. We may have it here in twenty twenty But you've done a lot of research into this haven't you? Yeah you know. 'cause there's a lot of conflicting emotions about what's happening with. Minor League Baseball Right now. You know folks who live in these these forty forty or forty. Two cities are are very discouraged because they potentially lose their affiliated ball and whatever comes in to replace him won't be the same. It'll be something maybe hopefully it will be the same but you know if you look at the history of Minor League Baseball. There's been this these cycles of huge growth and then something happens. In some cases it was world war. Two Where they really really drop back. The nineteen fifties With network television and Mike patients the suburbs and everything changed in minor league. Baseball went another cycle. That went down. But here's the thing in nineteen sixty two the Meyer. Minor Leagues were deep deep trouble and it'll be stepped in and said okay. We're going to guarantee there's going to we're going to keep one hundred minor league teams basically four per make glee club and we're going to subsidize You know salaries and we're GONNA make sure that you minor leagues can stay in business and what's happened. Since then was major league expanded. They added more teams multiple times in the in the eighties and nineties and and organizations continue to invest in so now of Minor League teams are are much higher when the hell organizations feel like they can more cost effectively developed in identify players. And so they want to scale back on the number teams and more hand. You say that stinks. It does but on the other hand you know. It's what businesses like in America today companies. Decide they can run more efficiently and unfortunately in some cases that means jobs lost or they get sent overseas or or whatever it may be so basically. I've been going through this thing and the interesting thing I think about the current rumors at least that one hundred twenty teams or what. They're gonNA WANNA keep that same four teams per organization Triple eight AA high. A Class A. are the same four organization that MLB agree back in nineteen sixty two. So it's kind of back to the future in a way all time cardinals team. You've been working on that. Cardinal NATION DOT COM. What are you become up with? You know it was. It was funny. I got contacted by some friends at run a liar who are on the siriusxm fantasy radio on the weekend and they wanted to do a draft of all time cardinals teams and so they invited me. We had a three man draft and it was just a So much fun to look at the career contributions of so many great cardinals players overtime and we basically had a draft. And I let me guess how the first and of course. That was a no brainer. Stan musial then Gibson Hornby pools where the you know the first four pretty much the guys that you would think that he got interesting. You can boy author basement. Before Ozzie Smith shortstop where does Ted gold versus Yati Dingo your black versus edmonds wretched chain versus You know and so there was so many decisions that were made. And I've got several articles about the site. Folks can go read and they can see about the team. I put together versus my competitor's it was just it was auto finding a in a good way to pass a Sunday here with no baseball I love it. Good stuff brian. What are you working on this week? Well I still work on the mainly history series. I regressed permit from a for a few days to to focus on this other stuff but the next one is the the Gulf Coast League in the history of the cardinals in complex baseball scenario that they've invested in and I think they're going to continue to invest more in the future so know we're continuing to cover the news as it happens in terms of resumption the season as well and You know we'll continue to have our active message board where folks come and talk about baseball in in which we had it back in. We all do. Thanks Brian so much. We'll catch up next Wednesday great stuff. Take Care of their young Mclaughlin here to tell you about the hometown automotive family. I trust the most the loop US automotive network and you know they are saying Louis loop us has been a part of Saint Louis for over seven decades. They're proud to support Saint Louis in the surrounding areas with cars youth. Sports and charitable efforts. Fourteen brands ten locations just visit views dot com. 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Babes On Broad #20: We're Just Bitter

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Babes On Broad #20: We're Just Bitter

"Welcome to your favorite sports postive Jesse town and same. Well they're smart and they're all thanks Welcome into episode twenty of Babes. On broad I am Sam Wilson with my co host Jesse town we are brought to you by SP nation and believing green nation. You obviously found a way to find us on your your podcast if you're listening to us right now but get a five star rating say nice words share it. No we don't like being. I don't want me words those. They're long gone now. I feel like every now and then at one yes who say Nice every now and then and also just stupid like I tweet something and someone on responded aggressively telling me. I'm wrong but they didn't actually read the whole tweet like today. I tweeted someone asked. We'll get into this eventually but about like deuce possibly being the next offensive offensive coordinator and I said I would love to give him consideration because I love what he's done with the run game and I think he deserves the consideration. But I think they I need to go for an outside hire and everyone's like what has he done to deserve the head They need to go outside. And I'm like I know in science as a second song when I said learn how to read stopping aggressive all the time but leave. I know what Jeff said. Well I if you want to follow us on social media at on broad on everything's hard look it up me. I am at Sam Wills. Eighteen house aggressive. I'm sorry I didn't mean we're talking about being aggressive. That was I'm fired up sad sad. Okay Oceans Roller Coaster over here. I can't do so I am as Sam Wills. Eighteen on twitter. INSTAGRAM and on twitter jess is at run. This town with any thirteen and a On instagram at Jessica Underscore town with an e. So easy enough. You can wrap us by buying south on design tree dot com slash Babes on Bob. You can probably Google us on broad. I Dunno for Google yet. Both we're trying to get there. We're trying to get. But what is Google. Is that a word. Google probably not only not but we may need more right there. Did it by our Google T-SHIRT OWN DESIGN TRADE DOT COM coming out and we anyway. Yes yes I was sad now. We're delirious but the reason our sad because eagles season has come to an end and unfortunate SCHNITT end. My thing about it is. I'm not mad. I'm a little bitter just because I I had such high expectations but at the same time like okay. I'm not mad because like injuries. You can't help and all that happened to hit on Carson happened. We'll get into that and a little bit. They did what they could end. The people stepped wrapped up. I'm proud of them honestly. They shouldn't have even made it as far as they did. So like. I'm proud of that but I don't know because I think also the momentum they have the four game win streak at the season. I expected a lot so I think that's why I'm disappointed because I was like. Maybe they have shot. I talked myself into. Yeah and I don't disagree with that at all. I think I truly I think Mark Varzideh said it best this week and he said I felt cheated out of something and I. I completely agree with that. Like I'm not mad at anything. The Eagles did on Sunday. Anything they did. I have no issues with any of the players that set foot on the field on Sunday. I have no problem as with anything that was done. Because at the end of the day they played the seahawks in November and the score was seventeen to nine and the eagles turn the ball over five times on Sunday. A score was seventeen to nine with the backup. quarterback Carson plays that game back forty year old quarterback. I have no doubt in my mind. The Eagles win that game. No I agree one hundred percent and that's why like I feel so disappointed because they did go through that or game. Winning in issued the momentum was on their side they were clicking on offense. The defense is playing so well at home. Jim Towards Defense has been number one in his five years when points allowed at home. I mean you know everything was was falling into place for them to make a run and all it took was that one hit. And that's why I'm just disappointed in the way ended and I'm upset that with the way it ended but I'm not. It's it's nice to not be upset at the idea that I agree. You know I guess Silver Lining Carson got hurt in the game. But he's not injured he doesn't have to go through a rehab. He doesn't have to go through any sort of testing to to get him back on the field opposite he I think he did. Pass the concussion test. And he's okay now he doesn't have to worry about anything in the off season. He just goes right into camp if the eagles would have won. And we're GONNA play on Sunday. He was cleared series. See that and someone tweeted it and then and then quoted some awesome unquote the tweet near like what the the FBI supposed to do with this information. That's exactly how I feel like. What am I supposed to do with this now? Cool Dude awesome thanks. I'm glad he's okay but like you didn't have to add to tell me he's okay. Yeah right that's it. Don't add salt to the wound. I don't even deal but so let Like kind of dance around it. What do you think about the hit? You think it was is intentional. Do you think he was dirty. Do you think he should be fine. You think it matters all right. I'm going to Rant I okay go ahead and the floor is yours here. Is My issue issue. Anybody with eyeballs can see that it was late and that's fine I. My seats are on the visitor side of the field so from where I was sitting bidding. You couldn't see him dip his head and initiate that helmet-to-helmet contact. It was late before we saw the Slo Mo replay of him dipping his helmet et him. There should have automatically been a flag based on the late hit Anyway things get missed. refs miss things all the time. Five calls get missed all the time and at the end of the day like we make our peace with it. That's fine regardless if that flag is thrown or not Carson is still knocked out of that checking fifteen yards right. There doesn't really do much to help you. Maybe I mean he did finish the drive. Maybe he's able to finish that with a score if you give them those extra who knows house and you know the the score is a little bit different. They're able to play a little bit different style. You know at one Josh. mccown comes in but at the end of the day the hit happened and whether the fifteen yards words came or went or didn't happen that was not going to change the fact that Carson Wentz was not going to finish that game now where I have. My biggest problem is is then Derek Barnett Hits Russell Wilson. Late hundred percent Layton I agree with that roughing the passer call no question in my mind but event Josh mccown gets knocked down twice late nothing after the game clowney shows no sort of remorse at all. I think it was absolutely absolutely intentional. I think it was late hit. I don't think he could have stopped the hit lowering his head. That was intentional. That was dirty. That's crap not only. Is that crap. Then you get get the refs who stand by that call after watching it over and over and over again and seeing it and you give me some. Bs Line of incidental helmet went to helmet. That doesn't exist. You made that up. Let's talk about some things that have happened over. The course of the last couple years in twenty fifteen I I watched Jordan Hicks Shatter Tony. Romo's cholera. He landed with all of his weight on Tony Romo and shattered his collarbone. Nothing happened two years later. We watched Anthony Barr. do it to Aaron Rodgers. Land on top of Aaron Rodgers shattered his collarbone not only. Is it a flag. There's as an entire rule change in the NFL that you cannot land with your weight on the quarterback. Another rule change last year. The New Orleans Saints Absolutely robbed opt out of a first goal opportunity with a blatant missed. Pass interference in the off season there. They made this rule change to be able to challenge those that you think were egregious. Calls or non calls for some reason only certain quarterbacks get respect with the rules that are in place and for some reason the rats in the NFL have too much of an ego to admit any wrongdoing in a call that they won't reverse anything so they won't admit they're wrong and only these rules. Apply to certain quarterbacks that to me is a problem from the top down and the fact that the League is not done anything anything about it in terms of the rest and the League has not done anything about it in terms of finding clowney. That is something that I have a giant problem with because after all these years when you put so so much of an emphasis on player safety helmet contact whether it's incidental or not. There was a huge rule changes that came out two years ago with the emphasis on. It doesn't matter what player you are. You can be alignment put in your head down a running back initiating the contact with your. It didn't matter if you were leading with the crown of your helmet. You were in the wrong. That is a personal foul that there's a fifteen yard penalty and then you are subject to find. They made it very clear that they were changing the rules to be more similar to college. And the targeting rule and the unnecessary roughness and the personal. No foul where it leads to possible objections. You can't you can't pick and choose when you want. That done doesn't get that if this happens to Russell Wilson on Sunday or Saturday our when they play. I don't care Saturday. They've like Saturday. If this happens to Russell Wilson on Saturday Saturday there will be a fifteen yard penalty. The player. Who Does it will be? Let me know that if he does it again he will be objected and there will be a fine give it if it happens Aaron Rodgers. Same thing yeah it was Tom Brady. Cloudy would have been arrested on the field in that moment the ramp wouldn't even have at the time throughout the flag out because the police arrested him in that moment. If it was Patrick Mahomes same thing there will be a flag. There will be a penalty at the end of the day the hit not Carson Wentz out and at the end you know they weren't GonNa win that game without Carson. We're not GONNA as fans we're not gonNA sit here and we're not going going to blame the game on the refs because at the end of the day Russell Wilson still made every play he needed to decay. Metcalf was an animal animal. And we're we're not going to be saints. It's fans hold a parade and demand a rule chair. We're just demanding that the current rules that you have talked about putting such an emphasis on need to be upheld. I listen the Guy Right. He couldn't remember who they were playing currently. He couldn't remember who they played the week before. He couldn't tell you any of the players that had just happened. He couldn't sit still without swaying back and forth and he couldn't couldn't see if that happened and there's no repercussions for it. There was a very I forgot who in the NBA got ejected the other day for like accidentally like hitting a Guy Alcudia. Heads all the Lakers. Right it was yeah. It was like he was tossed immediately and he was fine. So here's my take on it. On Nam I am not doing anything like the refs and then if the NFL does nothing on it. I think it severely hurts them in the long run because not only all the rule changes you're saying but like that's just extremely subjective but then to own another point if you do have that they have all these things now about Al concussions and make the game safer and doing that but if ultimately it comes down to the subjectivity of the REF. What are you doing the then the NFL? There's no way way of securing safety. Why would anybody play that game? Why would anybody support that game so I think the NFL definitely do something we had? Jimmy Jimmy Kamsky on today. I said whether they do something or not. The league will most likely posts. We will be finding. We will not be finding so that's like win one nil when they make the decision will hear something that by now should have heard it by now so like it's Friday currently as recording. Yeah it's happened on Sunday. I now now at like five o'clock it wasn't that it was it. Was that early in the game. Wasn't that far in. Yeah you're exactly right. The subjectivity of it is the problem and if they just makes the game so dangerous so unfair. Nobody's GonNa like that and my thing about it too is one all the national attention like national hate Carson got move in furious me because one concussions are very very serious joke. Do not come at a guy because he got hit and got a concussion late. What's what's he supposed to do? Have next strength in throw off cloudy and then get whiplash like no the like. I know what you're supposed to deal with. That situation is literally no what so people were defrauded his wife down because Lewis adding so many issues like they brought his wife down which I heard. It's not uncommon for like when there is an injured player for them to get eh significant other but still h. Is there so much that goes into it. It's a very touchy subject. It's very dangerous for the NFL. especially if they just don't do anything it's so dumb on their part but the good news about it is is a big market so philly they keep complaining about it. Hopefully it gets something done on. You know what I mean like the saints got something done. I mean granted. They threw a parade and we're babies about words was such like a passionate fan base. It's not something you can just ignore. So hopefully that is something done but as my feelings on the hit I understand the argument. I go against you on this. I understand the argument. A love clowney. Not being able to stop himself shirt like yes like technically it's late hit but I agree with the rafts on the fact that I don't think he was able to stop his momentum. Please don't don't think he's going to be able to pull up now so like. I don't think that was an intentional late. Hit the intentional part is he throws his head down and he hits him in the back of the a hundred thous percents. It's touchy so as like you know how competitive yes. I was very very competitive athlete. I love Christian Leitner because as uncommon as that is because because I would be Christian Leyland like I will play to win. I don't care what happens. You're on the court with me. I'M GONNA do whatever is legal to make you lose you ever in a competition with Sam lookout. Well I'm I'm just being honest and so I don't think clowney went to actually hurt Carson because I actually do think that there's a respect there. Obviously he's another other NFL guy. And so I don't think that he was trying to hurt him trying to do anything potential for his career anything. I do think that there would have been intention. Yeah throw this kid is hard as you can into the ground. So maybe he can't come in for a play and maybe it helps us out because any athlete that cares. That much about a game is going to do that. I you think any one hundred players will tell you defensive line near you that their goal is to. They're trying to knock that trump said that he's like if you're a football guy you're trying to knock off the mouth of the game. That's what that's what you're trying to do so as dirty as that sounds i. Don't blame him for that. I would do the same thing but my thing is he. Did we do it. People did notice as a league. The League the rest they have to penalize it. It can't Embarrassment the league should be embarrassed. Orest if they don't exactly shameful if they don't and so that's my thing overall. I do not blame clowney. Because he's just being extremely aggressive athlete. I don't hate the way replays. Dog Him on It'd be the same way. He should realize that he should get like penalty. Obviously he's not gonNA come out and be like you find me. I shouldn't have done obviously is not gonNa do that but I think in his head he should realize that. That's what you should be penalized for. I think the NFL arrests everybody should come out and be like that's a dirty hit. You shouldn't have that mindset especially when the NFL cancer enough is so oh pro or anti concussion. Were doing everything you resign protesting aim and if you don't do anything on hit your absolute bullcrap. I will not believe anything you're saying you're trying to say whatever you can to keep keep national attention make pants and make money. Yeah exactly my problem with it. My biggest issue with the So from from an athlete perspective. I hear what you're saying. Thank my problem is. This is not his first time doing this. And doing these things so I struggled to believe that there was no kind of dirty intent behind it because 'cause I've watched him do these things over and over and over again and that is where that's where I have. The biggest problem especially at the League doesn't do anything because you find him several times in the past for doing we watched it last year tried to tear Nick foles head off his body and he has the audacity to save media. Oh Well Eagles fans. They tried to kill Nick foles. I watched you try to kill Nick foles. Not that was there I saw. Nipples is the most field mild tempered individual and this man jumped off the field and was in the face of the rest. I've never seen him act like that. No one's ever seen him act like the entire team came out and said they've never seen him that fired up before I blew out my entire voice box screaming screaming unbelievable obscenities at that revenue. I agree and that's the thing is I am not saying you're all he's shouldn't do that as an athlete. I understand why he's not a problem in like on having that aggressive intensity and you know that I have it I have way less of a problem with the clowney hit and the aggression of that than I do with the myles. Garrett aggression against Rudolph will that was it a whole other Lebedev's. I don't think I've never said what I'm saying. So like that to me. Is the level of intentional her intentional. I don't care about your career I have no respect for you. I don't don't get that feeling from cloudy. I think he's just an extremely passionate player. He's GonNa do what he has to do to win that game. He's not trying to take you out for your career. Oh he respects you all that especially Carson Wentz highly respected but I hear this helps as an eagles fan. I'm pissed I hate cloudy. I'm like screwed because like whatever right if I'm an athlete I understand exactly what he did. If I'M A seahawks fan I agree one hundred percent. I have no problem with it. Because I'm I'm like that's what you're supposed to do. If that makes intentionally injure someone I don't think he wanted to end kids for the kids listening never heard anybody it. Never go after them. I am a terrible person but I would play the same exact way. So that's why I do not I don't think he went with an intention to like ruin Carson wentz his career. I don't think he tried to do anything thinly at but I differ from you in the sense of so some people have said to me. Wouldn't you be happy if it was Russell Wilson it. He was knocked out of the game same as much as there are some players in the NFL. That I'd hate like Dak Prescott for example I would never sit here and wish an injury upon you know what I mean like. Yeah I have too much respect for the game of football and I just love the like Lonzo Ball so much that I would never want that I know I never want that for a team for a player. Like they're people too you know so so for me. Would Russell not being in that game. Make it a hell of a lot easier for the eagles. Yes but I would never want it for that reason and I also go back to you know people are saying. Oh we'll have cloudy was an eagle. Everyone we praising is set. I disagree with that because if you remember back to the Green Bay game when Derek Barnett. Put that lose weight dirty hit on Jamal Williams. Yeah as an eagles fan were we happy about data. Though I were embarrassed we were extremely embarrassed. That player wearing our team's Jersey was acting like that on the field. One and two had done that a couple of times and was starting to maybe get a little bit of a reputation as a Kurt. Meyer and I don't want that kind of player on my team and I tweeted this out on Sunday right after it happened. I'll say it. I don't care what anyone thinks. I didn't want cloudy here in the first place ace because I didn't think he fit with what more needs at the time and people tell me I'm crazy for that. I don't really care but at the end of the day I'm glad he's not in Eagle. Because I'm not feeling like I don't I I don't want that crap representing might team and my city because that was bs no I completely agree with that in yet. Hit was terrible when we did. I feel bad as families. I just think it's different. It's in the playoffs. I even go as far as like as an athlete perspective you want Carson. You WanNa get a good shot on him. You want him to Shiro Hero. Sure like I think I don't destroy with that involve yes so I feel. Sometimes you're not really thinking in the moment it's a playoff situation. It's a good team I I don't i. Don't blame him overall. I just do day I really think the dip of the head was dirty. And I think the guy's yelling out and giving me the incidental helmet-to-helmet is crap than I think the fact the NFL still hasn't found him at this point probably won't because they already have in is embarrassing to end completely hypocritical of everything. They've said we're they were working towards the last ten years we're completely on the same page with the rest in the NFL. For sure. I mean I mean. Obviously that was the biggest story of the game. The second the biggest story was probably decay. Metcalf and his one hundred sixty yards and a touchdown when. Jj Theta whiteside did even play like was he there. Dude I sold. Yeah I know he played yet not forbade on or for Beta. Is that those forbidden but so they lake for some. It was like all year yet not forbade him. I can't deal so. Jj Are Thelma. Tide had like seven or ten receptions all year like one hundred and sixty nine yards and something down any touchdown and decay in. Just Sunday's game had seven catches for one hundred sixty nine yards and a touchdown or like. That's not yet won one game than Jj all year yet. My biggest thing is I was sold on this guy being this elite fifty fifty jump ball. Receiver can't wait to use him in Red Zone goal-line packages up in the corner corner. The end zone get up over a cornerback. At one point they were in the red zone they were on like the four and it was before one of the delay of game. Something like that. But they also terr- awful they lined up and Jake Arrieta. Whiteside was one on one on the one side and I looked at Joe and I went. This right here is exactly why I was told. He was drafted. This is when he is supposed to be right here right there. He didn't even look his way he. It wasn't even looked at that. He was not a fact he was not the first second third fourth fifth. Sixth seventh eighth thought he was not an option. Yeah so I'm with Jj. I'm disappointed because okay you go into the by you. Tell me you look really help you out. You just had to focus in. Learn the book okay so like I'm not gonNA blame a new for taking your time getting to know the playbook whatever like I wouldn't be able to memorize that either at least now you have so. I expected a much better second half and we didn't knock it and that's why I'm disappointed. I'm disappearing. I used to wonder like. Is it really. You just aren't talented. But yeah you know the playbook now you said you know it. I really just think that at this point I mean you brought guys is like Greg Ward Up Josh Perkins. I know they've been with the team for a little bit longer but at the end of the day they're making big plays for you and your you know your your newest receiver who you spend draft pick on. It isn't and I think that's kind of leads us into the next part of the conversation that we will be having. We'll probably talk about a little bit. More next next week is what they need to do these things but ultimately you know what happened on the offensive side of the ball and where they are right now led to the decision of firing micro and Carson while the people that are the biggest proponents of the passing game which honestly is not shocking at all. Now now I've noticed it's exactly what happened and I thought I was shocked. When dog said they'd return next year I was like no? He just meant they were gonNA come back the next day so he could fire them but yeah I thought it was really telling a couple before the game against I wanNA say. It was the first game against the giants during the week. There were pictures that came out from practice and Doug had taken over all be offensive drills and the receiver drills and everything. He took over running all that the ones that might grow and Carson while usually did. I thought that right there it was very telling of happen. So yeah I mean they're right. Now the two names out there Jim Caldwell and Kevin O'CONNELL neither one of those names really excite me. I could do Caldwell 'cause he has head coaching experience itself. I don't I've never even heard of Kevin. He was the redskin. I knew that because they looked into AH performance by lake. I feel like I should know your name if I want you on my team. Kinda young so someone asked a question about the new offensive coordinator later or choice. So we'll talk about that a little bit later dude. I don't even know or or just what we're looking for. What we would like as what in the ideal world? What would you want like? Do you want internal expert like okay. So we'll talk about that in a little bit but right now we're gonNA take a quick break a quick break a quick break. Goodness instill riled up over to Debbie sorting take a quick break or the based on broad on. BGN Radio Songwriter. 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Thanks welcome back to Babes on Broadway episode twenty so so we just talked eagles off things. Eagles will get more into that next week but the sixers sixers sixers three baby against the Celtics. This season at last year last night was scary. The first half was not good they were trailing seven going into half but like just play it was. It was ugly. I had no. I hope for them going in like at halftime really yeah. I didn't like us. You know with any Philadelphia Sports Damn. It is not over until we were at dinner so so I wasn't listening to nine I was like check in Okay so I I was like oh so bad. There's Joe yes so Joel. EMBIID is is out for now surgery today today. Tore Ligament in his hand Reggie Jackson was talking about it last night. He had the same injury he was out almost two months now closer to one month. Hopefully it is like a forty eight week recovery typically for athletes. So we'll see where that goes but right now the sixers after their four game skid they did not beat the rockets after our last episode last week they had no Joel embiid and a Joel on Friday Joel played on Friday because he played against Clink Capella which was actually really fun to watch that match up but they are now on a two game win streak against two really good teams. The thunder are playing. Yeah really good basketball right now and then obviously the Celtics last night the the biggest question is going to be. who kind of steps up in the meantime so last night Josh? Richardson stepped up. Big Time leaving only nine. Al Horford had a phenomenal complete game. You got really good minutes and good energy from Norville off the bench and Ben. Simmons played a good game offensively phenomenon almond on the defensive end so my here my two biggest issues last night and why the game got out of hand for a little bit of a little bit of time until it calmed down Josh. Richardson had eleven. Points informants four minutes and then Brett took him out which I did not like and then he kept putting it on court Mas in the game. Yeah I saw that. So here's here's my issue with Burke on yeah you'll hit us three every now and then but then you do things like fast-break Ben is flying at the Rim and you give the laziest lob pass ever and everyone's like Oh ben could Couldn't convert on the no. The pass was like behind him and below him. It was a horrible pass. So it's a turnover. It goes flying back the other way key. Let's not only does he. Foul Cam which is fine. He lets him get the shot off so it's then an an one. Yeah so if you're going to foul him don't let him get the shot off. Please don't don't don't don't dull because he's one of those that will score those. Yeah you know what I mean. So that was my biggest issue and then after like halfway through the Third Quarter Order Inc for Concord. Mas Again and I really enjoyed that that was that was really nice to see And some people came in and gave you some really important minutes Trey Burke did with Trey Burke and again Joshua Johnson great on both sides of the floor Tobias Harris a couple of big buckets in the fourth quarter again playing good defense getting some really good boards is came back. He didn't have any points but he's on his way back in your and he he had a couple steals he he was. He still made his impact. Impact on the Definitely did it was good to see him out there again and you know they. They closed out that game very well. Thirty two to eighteen in the fourth. First quarter that's nuts. They played a role. The and that's what I like about this team now. Sometimes it may get a little bit closer than I would like at the end. But they're closing Out Games that they wouldn't have closed out in the past and I think Brett every now and then still does his hockey line changes. which like if I have any criticism problem with Brown around? That's it is the hockey line change when some like when someone's hot and you take them out yet. Don't do that the reasoning. Did he come out last night. Like was he questioned. Why I don't awesome? No because he still ended up having twenty nine points in the state hot and they won but I mean you know I just I i. That's the only thing about him. That bothers me. Trying to force for Concorde Mas in there and like if he's on great he's a liability on the he reminds me of Jj Keretic obviously. It's not the same kind of shooting. Jj rettig but when he shooting well it the world's on fire and hasn't been nominal when he's not making shots he's just a liability the nothing helpful on the defensive end. So it's it's not worth having him on the floor so you know you don't want to just like not outplay him. But you want him to make shots but if he's not making shots get it's not worth getting out of it I I don't WanNa see but they're back tomorrow night. Saturday aac playing the mavericks which should be a good match up. Yeah I don't know if KRISTAPS IS GONNA play or not because he didn't play they played last night. No no they played tonight tonight. They played two nights ago and crops did not play and they played tonight. They play the Lakers tonight and they have two games back to back. Yeah favor cleaned thunder earlier this week. So they're the it's a tough week for them and I think they lost to thunder. Actually so I don't know kristaps is gonNA play a hopefully. He doesn't play because we don't have Joel embiid but Al Horford I trust our completely and his beautiful eyelashes and now he does have free island. It looks like he's wearing makeup and he's not yet. Do you know how hard we have to work together. He's Isla Excess. He has beautiful beautiful meters. He is he is such a beautiful beautiful features Gab. It's ridiculous and sister tweeted something the other day. It was like my friends. Don't believe me that people have a weird obsession with als is but they do and I absolutely do even when he was a celtic. Wisest man is the most beautiful day I was like. Oh my God. Yes staring UNIFIL bone structure he does. I can't stand it. And then I also Matisse Zayas perfect eyebrows. I can't Scaring I just can't I don't care I can get. How far does have nice skin? He does very nice. Get I hard hard. We have to work for this lake seriously. What anyway so guess so? The mavs are playing the Lakers tonight. So they get the sixers and the second night of a back to back which which is also when we happened to catch the Celtics. So that hopefully bodes well for the sixers. They lost to the mavs in their first matchup at the Wells Fargo Center. That was that there I I lost home it. Yeah no no. No the he was. He was a personal. I can remember. They were like right around each other. So we'll Z.. Y. You know. I think I mean look phenomenal to watch. He's so much fun to watch. But we'll see and I hope hopefully the sixers can continue to get guys to step up up play a big role in the absence of dwelling did and I love that. They're still trying to include Joel. He was put him on face salmon locker room during ago. Yeah I thought that was was I thought that was great because obviously he's a huge loss but yeah so not only did they kinda pull their ish together. The flyers dials flyers liars. Pulled it together to they lost a Russia games in a row. Four Lovely I'm yeah and it. It's Kinda worry I'm just because they have four away games and then they lose four games so it's not likely now. It's not what you like to see. I was hoping that they will go down. Where where they Carolina on Tuesday was Resituto Susan knows a back to back. It was Wednesday night because capitals. They a lot of things not in their favor for the caps one of the hottest assuming the NHRA now he the lay back to back to back to back. And there's something else about it that I did not like the match. It was making me worry about that but they pulled out the win against capitals capitals. Break their four game losing streak and it didn't look promising early no it didn't didn't look But the third the third period Carter heart had a a giant period because he shut him out he was phenomenal to be able to hold onto the three two win. And a couple really good saves to let you really impressive saves with APPs man. Their shots are dirty shots. Like it's not like they're just I couldn't find the I couldn't keep up with the puck and I was like I don't know how Carter's doing this but it was. It was really great and especially. It's good to see that that he can play at that level again such high team. Yes yeah and the end to make it even better. I mean the flyers defense stepped up in a big way too because the the capitals are one of the best power play teams in the NHL and they were over five on their power place. He hasn't said they did a really good job. Bob And I think the flyers the Flyer scored off of one of their power the capital's powerplays too. So it was. Yeah because it was Tori. Cory I forget what he did but he was in the box and Kevin Hayes went score and then turn around like look but yeah I mean it was. It was a really good kind of complete elite team. Like they need is not what you needed after a four game losing streak. Yeah Yeah and it was. Yeah because two the hurricanes they they lost Brennan Elliott gave it five goals four goals. Does he get it hurt in that game. One point two he was in the whole game he got hurt at one. Point and Carter was like warm ready to go and I don't think I think he he. I guess he stayed in but yeah they wanted. That was overtime right. Yeah overtime yeah. Yeah because they still got a point from it they still got a point from it and I was like all right overtime and then all of a sudden my phone buzz and I was like. Yeah because what was was it somebody I forget who it was had a great shot and it was just stopped or no. It went in or something. And there's a controversy about it. I don't remember who it was or the situation situation. I think that was that game. There's controversy about a goal they recalled. It didn't count and an interesting. The canes scored. What was what Royal Tim was the kid's name? Because I remember the name that the Guy Score Dougie who goes by dougie. Unless we're talking about w what is is named Dougie p Doug Dougie Hamilton dougie Hamilton. You got the game winner in the Ot let Garrett there yup that's him he looks like Guber Dougie he does look like Dougie. That's absolutely true But yet so one again. What do they play again tomorrow? I think tomorrow tomorrow on update anchor you should. I know I'm pretty sure tomorrow. I think them and the sixers play tomorrow. Oh that's a fun night because the sixers are our way in Dallas. So I'm pretty sure that would make us liars are home again and he can do the likely borrowed seven. Ah Six later this sixers play at seven or six thirty. Six thirty really isn't after eight. Thirty eight thirty. Oh that's a fun. TIME FLO flyers L- L- little sixers right after that's a fun time snacks. I'm excited I just got really excited about come over I wanNA come over and hang out. Yeah Yeah we'll get some snacks. I'll get some checks makes for your dog. Your come hang out the flyers and we'll watch the sixers both win Dan and it'll be phenomenal. It'll be good night. Yeah that sounds like fun all right so we're GONNA take one more quick break when we come back. We'll answer some questions you're listening to the Babes saves on broad on BGN radio I'm Jillian Weinberger. Who's to the impact to a podcast from vox about how powerful people affect the rest of us this season? We're looking at the big ideas from all the people running for president. In Two thousand twenty hit this opioid crisis head on public option. move away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and it's GonNa be a Great Wall and it's going to work. A lot of those ideas have actually been tried before like that. Wall trump wants to built the gallows Zona has had one on its border for decades. I don't understand why individual people have a right to have a fence and yet a country can't Senator Warren's proposal to end the OPIOID crisis it's based on what we did to fight the AIDS AIDS epidemic. We would like to name the Ryan White Care Act and the green new deal. 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Anybody who is a free agent if they stay or go And then if there are other free agents in the NFL who we think would fit. Maybe or if there's someone in the draft that we like because Eagles contender affects the way they were talking. It sounds like they're going to pretty much use them. They're not going to meet you know being I doubt at all I don't know though because I don't like how how we kinda had a sense of. We have a lot so that's good because we have a chance grow bound to hit kind of thing is what is what it was sweet and I don't like how he's like. Yeah like we got a lot picks one out of tasks and work. I don't like his tone But I think that at first glance because I just looked at a list and I couldn't tell you because I have to like look at it. I'm a visual person. Look at it yet but just looking at the list and not looking at all the positions of what they avenue all that stuff I would probably say big. That's an interesting one. Yeah yeah the one that I think I would be like the the one person on like you have to keep. This person for me is comma garage sale. He had what what about injuries. That doesn't worry you know because everyone said the same thing to me about Jordan Hicks and it This year I knew they weren't going to pay him that money. Because here's the thing. They don't value the linebacker position. Who is not a person that he like? He's not like Cj Moseley Quanta Alexander Jordan Hicks money. I hope he doesn't try to command that because he's not that but I think he's someone who he was captain of special teams let last year this year. This year yeah I just think he brings a lot to the field. He's when he's in the game he's always around every every single play and I really don't know if they're going to pick up the option on Nitro br Adams contract so then. You're left with nate. Gary Who Shot Silence Me Nate Gary for playing the entire season with a torn muscle in his core. I saw he got surgery. I was wondering what it was more muscle. Tort and Training Camp Played All year my animal absolute because he thought he saw he had the opportunity to start on defense and he didn't want to give that up here. We are is missing somebody. Yeah I've have been linked guidance about Nate Gary. Just because I'm like what what do you do. But he actually had a dion. Tours corner was out for a month from baseball. Yes so so I will say I am the worst shot in Gary for having a terrible person taking over having a real for having a really good season Given those circumstances. Yeah so that's awesome hat off to him. But the only other really the Duke Riley who who was routinely a special teamer TJ Edwards had got a lot of snaps at that at in the rotation a little bit at the end when they hit area. And I I liked him and I still can't believe he went undrafted. Most people can't believe he went undrafted and I think he's good too but I think having someone like calm is necessary and he would be one who I would think it's he he would be my number one like on that list interesting. Yeah I think it's because you are. Obviously we didn't look on. WHO's out on the board or anything? Yes so so. That'll be our kind of go from here on out. We're GONNA break down by physician and see kind of what our ideal world would be but last question who do you want as an oc or what are the qualifications that in your ideal world the eagles next offensive coordinator will have Somali. I don't have a guy that I'm I'm like that's it. That's who I want. Bleier Lanchile have that guy on my closest is kind of unrealistic. It would probably be Jay Gruden and that's just probably my head because I hear like Jamie talk about it some time on the show and I'm like okay. I can get behind that but most likely he's not because he'll probably go to his brother who he's is going to be a coordinator somewhere. Yeah so That's probably who would be first from me but other than that. I don't really know who's available on who I would like not knowing their qualifications and stuff but I really just. I think we need to go. External obviously the way in talking together obvious not internal at all And and then quarterback central. We need somebody that's going to team up with Carson Carson Humam I mean even greater that offense to car exactly. I just think I totally agree with you. I think it needs to be external unless they hire someone like Josh mccown. I would not. Hey Josh mccown an offensive coordinator. I wouldn't either either but I it makes me hesitant to throw him in right at that maybe as a QB coach May. I could see that. I so so my thing is I don't know I I I. I see where experience In the coaching area can be important. But I just think based on how influential he was in the quarterbacks room this year with Carson they have a good relationship he obviously has a good relationship with doug he told Doug which players from the practice squad to bring up when they needed players. Bring up the Burnett. That was his decision that was shot down and I was. He has an eye for talent right and also he's played in so many different organizations he's played with so many a different people under so many different systems under so many different coaches that I think by seeing everything that he said I think he would have some really interesting fresh new innovative ideas and obviously he already has Doug Peterson Trust so. I think that relationship could work really well and I just any ads passionate obviously crying and I really do think so my from my main qualifications that I want I do want someone. Maybe a little bit a younger but I want somebody who has who can be innovative. Can you know give some new ideas because obviously the today this is Doug Offense Doug is GonNa make every call and I don't see him relinquishing that responsibility and that's fine. I don't mind that but you need someone who can can throw in some new ideas here and there that can be incorporated because I think doug offense is a good offense. It's executed well but I think there are times when it can get a little bit vanilla and a little bit predict year and that's when someone who has some QB mind yep mind some interesting ideas Mamie sees something nothing else just another i. That is on the same wavelength is Doug but is not just going to be. He's not going to say yes everything he's GonNa be like well maybe here would be so. At least it's in my mind a little bit that Jesse into it. I like your reasoning. That I can see why do I should be the the only what it is. The only the thing I'm switching up is instead of considering him like from the outside I'm GonNa say he would be. What's he options? I can't think of the word where we say we want a day. QB Or QB central innovative. Now we wanted a Oma God want what do we want. I'm going to consider him account an internal guy but thinking outside the box so internal but out of the box option. Yeah I agree because these extra because we talked about last week. He has soared. They couldn't think of internal external bells. My mind just went blank. And that's what got morning show. Mine does a a because I mean last week. We talked when Jerry Jones was about to fire Jason Garrett and Higher Mike McCarthy and the whole Ni- we talked about how everybody everybody in their organization is a cowboy in one form or another and they like to keep it in house and they don't like to expand. I don't want the eagles to turn into that non at all but I think Josh mccown on would be a really interesting that that out of the box he I like it. I like your reasoning behind it. The only thing is the experience for me. I don't that because you only hesitant. Obviously yeah but the factors a big one definitely but it definitely could work out. I mean Dougie P was a high school coach to get that. Who knows you never know who knows time will tell my friends? I'm excited so so. Welcome back next week and we'll talk about all this stuff. We'll get into a little bit more about doc who is a free agent and we'll start that ball rolling hopefully by this time next week. We'll have a new wide receiver coach. A new offensive coordinator and we can talk about that a little bit further it but for today that is our entire episode. We didn't expect it to actually go this long. And we started ranting about the clowney hit and all of a sudden here. We are D- minutes but thank you for listening listening to episode twenty of Babes on broad. Thank you to espy nation and bleeding green nation. Don't forget to follow us on twitter. Follow us on instagram. Like us on facebook. 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St. Louis Cardinals Off-Season Overview w/ Benjamin Hochman (St. Louis Post-Dispatch) + NLC Top 5 Ps

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St. Louis Cardinals Off-Season Overview w/ Benjamin Hochman (St. Louis Post-Dispatch) + NLC Top 5 Ps

"Saint Louis post dispatch writer and author of three books. Benjamin Hochman joins us to talk everything cardinals possible. Whether it be yada, your Molina in pretty much everything else. Saint Louis also the chatterbox today is the top five pitchers in the NFL central. Hope you guys enjoy the upset. Welcome. Painting corners, your weekly gas or all things baseball. Now. Here are your host Austin Hartsfield, and Dave quit cow scheme. Welcome back everybody. We are having another offseason recap this time we have our Benjamin Hochman on Benjamin. How you doing tonight? I'm great thanks for having me on will coming on, man. Everyone at home pretty much knows that this goes on by now. But in case, you're new to the show in case, you know, a couple of Benjamin's friends or family listen to this. We're going to be going over the Saint Louis cardinals. And what their opening day roster is going to be like we're going to start off with future hall of Famer Yati or Molina Augie a few minutes to talk about yadi. And just what do you mean to this team the city just this organization? We know he's going to be a starter. After you talked about him who's gonna be the backup catcher to start on opening day with him because he's gonna need some breaks. What's funny, as you said that he's going to need some breaks in a lot of people agree with you, the one person that disagrees is yada your himself who famously Instagram that he prepares for one hundred sixty two regular season games and eleven wins in the postseason. Oh and all star game every year. Exactly. What you want to hear from your French? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's ageless in his mind. And look last season the ad one of his better offense of seasons. It was or maybe not like as good as his MVP candidate ac- seasons. But he he was he was pretty good for Saint Louis and he played a bunch of ballgame. So I mean, I can answer that the backup in real quick. It's it'd be franscisco pain. You Tony paintings son who for the second year in a row will be here in Saint Louis and Francisco will play seldomly, and he is very good friends with yadi air, and they seem to have a good mix of guys. A good group of guys that include yadi and him and Marcelo Zona and the hang out together and gyro moon knows as well. So it's it's a it's a neat. Little fraternity. They have and they're always talking baseball. They stay late after game. Sometimes hang out in the clubhouse and talk baseball often in Spanish, and it's it's pretty cool. So yeah, you to you're Molina, the thumping heart of the Saint Louis cardinals a future hall of Famer like you said, I'm sure some people will point it some advance stats, and and they find ways to poke holes in in his candidacy, but the fact is he was the best defensive catcher of his generation Andy put up some pretty important offensive seasons too. And he has a multiple World Series appearances. It would be pretty bonkers to think that the modern voter doesn't put yadi ear in heading into this year, though, you know, he's a year older. And and and we'll we'll see I mean the old films dumb saying. Zeal saying father time is undefeated. But we don't know if that battle will happen in two thousand nineteen with Yod here. Yeah. I mean, it's hard to argue with nine Gold Gloves. A couple of platinum gloves to World Series and nine all star appearances. But the the question is almost how long, and I think you with this Paul Goldschmidt trade sending Carson Kelly away. I think you put your trust in your ear that he's going to be here for a couple more seasons. Because Carson was sitting back there. You know, waiting on his time, not exactly, you know, lighting up when he did get to play who is the future after yada. I mean, I know the number five prospect last year's still is still in the system. I'm never going to be able to say Andrews last name, but he hit well, double and triple A and limited a shirt, Springfield. But is he the future? What's going on at the catcher position posts yacht ear Molina? Yeah. The the air why space H E, I R we're go. We're big dorks and Saint Louis the yadi air for yadi air is is the aforementioned Andrew Kisner. I believe there's an end like k and it and I end is silent. So it's Kisner and. And he's going to start and AAA in Memphis this year, and they hope he gets a bunch of at bats. And he is the guy they're grooming now to to take over if yadi are indeed a plays two thousand nineteen in two thousand twenty and calls it a career. There we go. Let's go and move to first base. We just talked about Carson Kelly. He was in the deal to get this guy. You trade away one of my personal favorite players in the entire league. And Luke quaver and also trade Andy young to get possibly the best. First basement of his generation and Paul Goldschmidt, six all star. Parents is three Gold Gloves. Four silver sluggers you FA after twenty nineteen though. But the big thing about Paul is you get consistency. He's played ninety six percent of his games after his rookie season. What kind of buzz is in Saint Louis right now in are they excited about Paul Goldschmidt? Oh, yeah. It's funny. When you mentioned the players over traded, though, there's a funny little stories. A sports caster here in town named Bob Ramsey, and he goes somebody goes, hey, the Carter was just got just got Goldschmidt. And he goes. Oh, man. That's awesome. Who did they who do they trait and the guy said Liu quaver Carson, Kelly and young and he said. But he thought he spent palled and Paul the young shortstop. He's like, oh that's too much. Oh my God. Andy young. Oh. But of course, it was Andy young who we're okay with the was leaving. Of course, there's a lot of excitement about getting a guy who as Alex Rae has said at the winter warm up ever since I started hearing his name. It was tasked with thirty home runs and one hundred RBI is Goldsmith is a a winning baseball player. His Gold Gloves pedigree, though, talking to some people the cover the Zona Diamondbacks. They said is defense. Maybe got a tad worse last season and some of the defensive metrics back that up so we'll see. But basically the narrative here at Saint Louis was they finally got a a clean a not clear evidence. I got a a marquee slugger. And they thought they got that last year with Marcello Zeta who I'm sure we'll talk about shortly in the podcast. But but now they've got a they've got a guy Goldschmidt for one season. Who's coming off? Just another great Paul Goldschmidt season. He's one of those guys who's like his worst year is better than most guys best year. And so if he can stay healthy, they think he'll be an enormous part of Saint Louis cardinals in moreover, the owners the ownership the owner himself has been public saying that he wants to sign Goldsmith to a long term deal. So who knows maybe we'll even get that done during spring training, the optimist says, yeah. Well, you gotta think about coal boggles myth this way. He was hitting less than two hundred through the month of may last year, instill wound up top six and MVP voting. I mean, it's pretty. Just figures it out every year. I mean, he is lost in the generation lists with guys like Joey Votto, who's another big name first baseman that is arguably going to be all Famer Fogle might get on that, you know, not first ballot. But he will be in the conversation, you know, third fourth ballot through because he'd literally is the Mars the model consistency. He's gonna be thirty one hundred every year before last year. He's fine. Pretty good defense for you know, bigger slugger as well. And I mean, I base. I mean, your corner infield is pretty much set next year and hopefully for the future with both guys. Get an extension. We'll talk about carpenter later another first base and you got on the Rosser listed is Jose Martinez. Where does he kinda fit into this? You know, with the addition would Goldschmidt. It's pretty interesting because I even wrote about this. I remember like when the calendar turn to September. He was only I think sixteen percentage points behind the. Batting leader in the in the National League. Basically he was like he was like in the hunt for the batting title in September. That's how good of an offense of season. Jose Martinez was having last year. And obviously, I I know we all know that other stats are more important than batting average. But it's you know, it's still means the guys getting a bunch of hits. And and any was and now he's been so I guess I'm getting most teams if you have a guy like that like the next year. It's all right. He's back for more. It's exciting with Jose. It's like oh gosh. I guess we'll we'll we'll stash them on the bench and have you know, play here. And there the manager might shelters pretty confident that because Martinez can play outfield and first base that he'll get in most games. Even if it is just one pinch hit. But yeah, it's it's pretty crazy that a guy with those numbers has kind of become an afterthought as opposed to a key cog. Yes. So it sounds. Like, he's going to be your, you know, your quote, unquote, six man off the bench. If term when he can go in the outfield and going first base, and I mean health he's gotta get a third base real quick for the extra innings. I'm sure he'll be able to do that to Marwood on athletic. Yeah, he's a Marlin Gonzalez. He's a, you know, he's a Brockhall type of player it's turned out to be. And that's not bad thing to have you got him on the contract. What three more years after this? So yeah. Yeah. I make more than he does a man. It's you honestly might at this point. And. So we'll jump to second base because I know awesome. It's gonna really wanna talk about their base. And I want him to was well, two guys. I've questions on one is Colton long in one is jet. Is it Greco girl? Turco jerko. Oh, yes. Right. Name's dave. It is one of those. It's one of those things where when you say it, I get it. Dave. Ever so often. Before I've been good today. So you got genu- Colton Colson not had the best offensive season last year. You got him locked up for two more years with kkob option after that and Jedi. It this year next year. Also, the club option next year third base is locked up. Like, we talked about are. These guys are gonna flip off between second base together is going to be tuned of one. We're going to be there. It's going to be kind of like utility guy are the angles switch off lot scenes and writers what do you think's happening there? It's my understanding that it's Colton longs job. And the reason is defensively he is a Marg wizar- wizard and here in Saint Louis. We don't throw around the term wizard too lightly because we were home to baseball's wizards from for many years at shortstop. But if some of those plays that cold long made last season, we're just absurd and I kinda describe him as a as a basketball point guard when he's when he's dishing on the on the double play. Second base. He's very flashy. And if you look at the defensive runs saved and some of those numbers, I mean, they're through the roof. You could argue that he should have won the gold glove last year, which he did not. But only makes them hungrier and as for as offense two seasons ago. He was pretty good. He gets injured almost every year though. Which is frustrating beheading heading into two thousand eighteen last year. There was a lot of optimism. Ooh. Maybe this is an all star even defensively he was a defensive all star. If you will. But he started off so poorly at the bat him he index or Fowler. And Matt carpenter were just there in the one hundred's. It was terrible. But Colton Doug is way out. And if you look at his splits from last year, how he did I don't have it in front of me, but I suppose after July after June he hit if you will regularly and so his total season stats aren't great. But at least there was optimism as for jet Jerko. Here's another. Guy that you know, probably could start for some major league teams. He's got a lot of pop at he hit thirty home runs. Just two seasons ago. But he will be a a master off the bench. Yeah. And the amount of money that you're paying Colton long. He's another guy that it seems like they bought out his Rb years, and that's not a bad idea. I mean, he's a three and a half four player. He gets. It gets your at bats Jerko like you said could be a starter on a lot of major league teams. I'm sure San Diego would love to have a guy like that back. But if we're looking into the in the distant future, you know, you have a guy like shrunk down there. You have a guy like URI's where do these guys fit into the kind of the picture in the future? That's a great question. I I I think Colton is going to be the second basement here for a long time, and he might even sign another extension. If he has a good year this year in love, Saint Louis. He's really become part of the community. He he has a charity that that's very active, and I know many players have many charities across baseball. But he he seems to really like being part of this organization. So I I just I just pencil him in for me. I can't after the contracts expired, but in my head he's he's there for for quite a while. And I don't know if a amac's rocker who or Tommy admit or whoever will supplant him anytime soon. Shortstop. So we have Paul the young, you know, another guy I love when teams by out. There are beers. We could talk about Paul the young. But I really wanna talk about Mack Matt carpenter. I was gonna say you're gonna skip your guy right there. What a second half. Like what the heck was going on there? It was there anything that seemed to attribute to kind of the turnaround that he had. I mean, there was a stretch there to where he was the best player in baseball. It seemed like it was Matt carpenter homerun watch just to see what he did that day. Yeah. I mean, the only thing we can contribute to that was the salsa that he made an eight. Yeah. I mean, it's the only thing if those listening that don't know he has a garden and his backyard Saint Louis, and he grew the ingredients to make salsa on the first day. He tried it. He hit I believe three home runs at Chicago. And however, the story goes and soon the rest of the cardinals or eating the salsa. Two, and they had an amazing July and August, but to be honest, and Matt will tell you this. And if we really, you know, get on baseball savant, or whatever website you need to look like he didn't. He was hitting is is numbers were terrible early on in the year. But he was still hitting the ball pretty hard and hitting it where he wanted to to an extent. Like, it wasn't like he was striking out at a crazy abnormal rates or anything like that. So he kinda doubled down on his on his hitting approach and just hope and thought that throughout the course of six months things would even out and once he got going he got scorching like you mentioned, and it was a bunch of fun and similar to Jose Martinez. Heading into September talk about how maybe if he if he goes on a Ron Ginette, whomever goes down, maybe wins the battle. It was the same thing with net carpenter. Her and the MVP at that point in time in the air. But a carpenter had a had a definite law that final year. Maybe he ran out of gas. I mean, we can we can assume different things. But I spoke to Matt carpenter at the cardinals winter warm up their their annual convention last weekend. And and to excuse me, a Matt was talking about how he hopes that new hitting coach Jeff Albert he can get on the same page and cook up a plan to where he's more consistent. And maybe maybe doesn't have one of those months where he hits four fifty. But he has more months where he hits three ten if you will. Yeah. No more consistency in his game there instead of going, you know, batting two hundred two months in five hundred two months going even around three three twenty and that that would be huge for the cardinals as well. And you can pencil him Mogo there. And I think he's gonna have another great year. And luckily, he's on the contract for two more year one more year after this. You don't have to worry about extension yet. A guy that's locked up that Austin kinda touchdown quickly. It was pulled young. I mean, he's going to be there for awhile. He's arbiters aboard out contract gets better. And better every year. I mean, he he's locked in there. And I he's obviously going to be a staple. So I'm going to skip over him get to escape over him. But will brush by that considering that we know he's staying this outfield. I love the Southfield when when they want to actually perform, and I say that because I drafted cells soon, a very high my fancy was and it didn't work out at the beginning. But it helped me out the end, but Dexter Fowler. Locked up the great baseball player. Great guy. You know, really good human three more years sixteen point five he ain't going anywhere ozone ah, hopefully, not going anywhere for a while for you. Guys, avoided arbitration this year of signed the twelve point two five million next year, those UFA hopefully, get something locked up there. Although than that, you have no one listed as big money for this outfield, and you've got to center fielder. You gotta leftfielder who's your star who's your regular and starting right fielder for the year. Yeah. So their plan is to move Dexter to right field and Harrison baiter, the the former Florida gator who had a breakout season at least offensively last year. He had I think he led all outfielders in five star catches, he'll he'll start at the center fielder. But I say it like that because he doesn't he only hits one. I think he only hits left these well, and he also struggles against the cubs and the brewers statistically, and he. What's those those teams? And moreover in September he had a he had a downward situation. So I like Harrison a lot. He's one of my favorite personalities on the team their marketing him more. He he's he's because he's a speedster as well. These fun to watch. And so he'll he'll start centerfield and Dexter will be in right field in. Yeah. We we all loved extras personality and his topless minutes in the past last year was really tough for him. He told the post dispatch that he was suffering from depression and was really going through a tough time both physically and mentally during the two thousand eighteen season. The optimist says that he has found his way out of that. At least he has said that. And he honestly like he probably couldn't do worse. If you tried if you look at some of the stats from last year. I mean there there I mean, not I mean, I think he would he hit like one eighty something. You know, no slogging. Few walks amuses abysmal year for Dexter, and he is very fired up about coming back and reclaiming his spot as team leader in team producer. So we'll see what's Baxter. So a really is a lot of excitement about the outfield. But there's a lot of question marks two because I just mentioned two players that are starting with question. Mark the really in my opinion. The biggest question Mark on the entire St Louis cardinals offensive side of things is Marcelo SUNA who had a on even year last year. Rough allot of feathers in town when he slept through a day game and came late and. Like you say he came on strong late in the year. But the the thing that was the most problematic was his shoulder. He had he showed up basically with the bummed shoulder was having trouble throwing and couldn't really throw all year. And so everyone's like, all right. We'll surely hill it will get back on track this off season. Well, the general manager John Mozilla he'd said just a couple of weeks ago that he hadn't had much communication with Marcel who has down the Dominican Republic and not in Jupiter Florida where they wished he was getting rehab on his shoulder. So they didn't even know just how well Marcel was feeling at that point in time. And so once we get down to to Jupiter Florida for camp in just a couple of days or weeks here, we're gonna find out a lot about Marcelo Zuma in which Marcello to has arrived because he's the cleanup hitter for the Saint Louis cardinals. And we can talk about Goldschmidt. But. If you don't get anything out of that left field spot from an offensive production standpoint. I don't know how much better the cardinals are from lashed. So before we get to the the pitching side of things is there a position player prospect that you think will shock a lot of people in twenty nineteen. I mean, you have a guy like Nolan Gorman who's pretty far away. But is there a guy that stands out to you in the system position player was that you just go. Yeah. I think he's doing things in twenty nineteen. Yeah. The the name is lane Thomas. He's an outfielder who they got from Toronto in two thousand seventeen within eighteen months. He had cracked their forty man roster. So he's a guy who has some speed, and and can hit some homers to spoke to Tommy Edmund where I mentioned earlier who's a infield prospect for the cardinals. He said Nov is years in college and pro baseball he'd never seen a combination of power. Speed like lane Thomas so Laignel start AAA Memphis this year, but if Harrison Badir, you know, candidate curveball or what have you maybe lane? Thomas gets gets some at bats get some starts in centerfield for St Louis. 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This is when it gets a little interesting because I wanna talk about before we, you know, hit on the shirt things like Michael's Waqa guys like that. Let's talk about a guy that has a little bit of a question here. And that's Reyaz coming back off that injury. Only had one appearance in two thousand eighteen for the big league roster. What's going on with him? Is he better off being a reliever do they still have full confidence in him that he can be a starter in this league? It's funny because when we had our our pre podcast meeting in you're saying you want me to list five starters, then three key relievers. I the first thing that came my mind is like where or how do I talk about Alex Rae because right now he's he's not slated to be one of the the the five starters. We'll see what happens and he's not slated to be closed or anything like that. They're gonna have to see what he can do. And we will all watch together the scouts the executives his teammates and the. Media to see what else can do during spring. But the optimists says I say that a lot about the cardinals a lot of things after go, right? But it's optimism is cheese. This could be a pretty good team because we're talking about a guy now three as used to be the number one pitching prospect in all of baseball in these still young. And of course, they're really high on him. So who knows I mean, they they expect him to pitch many many endings for Saint Louis this year, probably as a starting pitcher. But I don't know if that means he's in the the Blake March rotation a lot will have to be determined in that regard. So you have twelve men product, you know, you have Michael Walker tech Saint kid, but what is the one through five looking. I give a guy like Michael who was phenomenal last year quietly. Amazing. What is how does the rotation fill out? Who's actually the ace of the staff because I feel like the legit. I know that point. Yeah. Yeah. One. Well, I'm gonna jump in real quick just to say, they're all this. The Carlos Martinez contract will go down as one of the best contracts in baseball by twenty twenty three. You can quote me on that. Carlos Martinez a legitimate stud. And we'll be wanna bet a top five pitcher in baseball by that you're he's your heat on one. He's got he's got. He's got so much town. It's absurd last year. However, there were some discipline issues with him and they were disappointed how he came to camp. They didn't think his body was was ready to go anyone on the deal three different times last season ended up finally putting him in the bullpen as the closer. Which was was nice feel-good story, and he was doing really well as the closer down the stretch, but that was only out of necessity because they knew they couldn't stretch him out as a starter during his third rehab from the from the DL. So key is mentioned those from an offense of standpoint Carlos Martinez. The equivalent big big important question Mark from a pitching standpoint. Because if he didn't can return to his his all star ways from just two seasons. Go three seasons ago. Yeah. You've you've got you've got a legitimate ace than the number two is miles Mike who get Sony. First pitch strikes, who's got confident command seldom walks dudes and had an all star season lasted that's not a bad one. Yes. So I think the third star for Saint Louis will be Jack Flaherty. He hopes to flirt with one hundred eighty hundred ninety endings this year will will see he had a lot of quality starts for Saint Louis. He's a very poised and confident young guy who prepared and some big games. And and they love he's got great stuff. He'll be the if you will the number three starter you mentioned Michael walkup who gets injured a lot. But was having an all star type season last year before the injury. He's if you will your number. Four and then number five is Adam Wainwright, the former Cy Young candidate one of the best pitchers in cardinals history. Who had one of the weirdest years ever last year where on he started out terribly got hurt again, and then came back, and in his mind, he wasn't revealing it to the media at the time. But his mind he was thinking about retiring at season's end. And then something happened in September where he kind of got healthy and found it again, if you will any of that just a couple starts there that were reassured, including one against the dodgers, the pitches, but off in that basically reminded him that he showed him that he still had something left in the tank that sent him to the the offseason confident he signed a ridiculously low contract. One year a lot of incentives in there for endings pitched and things like that. And he's going to he's going to try to make the club's fifth starter. And. And we'll see. But like you like, we all know, Alex Rae SS is looming. Daniel pon Staley owned, John Gaunt's, even Dakota Hudson. There's these other pitchers in the cardinal system. Who got starts last year who proven to be able to pitch in in big games. Austin is a lefty another guy. So we'll have to see what happens with Wainwright because that's that's a huge storyline in Saint Louis because he means so much the fans he's been part of some of the greatest moments of this centuries cardinal history. And but he's not getting a younger. Yeah. He's not getting younger at all. But he has been big part of the organization the pass, and he'll play a role this year for sure and like you said racists looming and he'll get his innings like you said. I mean, if it's like a Nathan of all the type with the Red Sox in the postseason this year where he started one day coming out of the bullpen, the next you never know he might be you know, pitching a little bit here. And there he might end up being the fifth starter for a month or two if there's an injury, but he'll be around. And I wouldn't be surprising the bullpen and speaking of the bullpen. You guys made another big move this year this off season. I feel like that's all that. The cardinals really did is just improve this team. Was you went out and got Andrew Miller, formerly, you know, the grim reaper, obviously was hurt, you know, not himself. That's for sure. But with a lot of rest and a new contract in a little bit off his mind with that and a good contract to especially if he performs anywhere close to what he did in Cleveland in two thousand sixteen eleven million and eleven point five you got Andrew Miller Brett seasonal Luke Gregson who I like, Greg. Naturally a lot. Then you have Dominick Leone. And of course, you still have race looming around who's a seven eight nine guy and who's got to watch out for since you have so much talent in this pen. And because I know the big count talent is Jordan ex. Yeah. Yeah. And then the guy that that you didn't name who I think is kind of the guy to watch is John Brennan who I think will be very effective reliever yet again for Saint Louis he wasn't seventeen and eighteen he was strong down the stretch, especially if you look at his numbers last year. He's just a good guy. Also, very funny quirky guy. Good quote, and he doesn't overpower, but he finds ways distract you out. And so I I look at him getting a lot of the seventh endings if you will now with Andrew Miller. I mean, that's the whole thing is that for years. The cardinals were like man, we need to upgrade. Our our bullpen. We need we need like an Andrew Miller tight. You know, a guy that can go multiple landings a guy. Can pitch high leverage. Whether it's the fifth through the ninth or whatever it is. If only we could get an Andrew Miller type pitcher will now they got the real thing in Andrew Miller the caveat. Of course is he's coming off some injuries. But even last year when he was struggling he still had a high strikeout rate. So that's reassuring for Saint Louis. So I mean, you talk about seven eight nine there'll be days. Maybe Andrew Miller goes Stephanie eight nine if you will depending on the on the scenario, but but yeah, he he'll be key. He'll probably pitch a lot of eighth innings and then Jordan Hicks. Who was one of the craziest stories in baseball last year? He he didn't he wasn't supposed to make the cardinals roster and on the final day of camp. He got a start against the Washington nationals while while the team was up basically the the big team was up in Canada to play the annual game in Montreal against the Blue Jays. So the cardinals are gone, basically like all the starters and the manager ever gone. The kind of leftover dies played against the Washington. Nationals in this seemingly meaningless game for Saint Louis. Jordan Hicks got the start, and he was striking out rundown. Striking out Bryce Harper own those dudes and throwing over one hundred miles per hour and the harmless folks are watching it thinking like wait, wait, wait a second. This is the this isn't the minor leaguers on the on the nationals. These this is the nationals and he's dominating them. This. Guys got to be on our club. So they they they made a move right there. Right. Then there after that start and put them in the bullpen and he pitched on opening day out of the pen and had a lot of great success for Saint Louis has a rookie kind of wore down towards the end. But he kind of changed the narrative of who the fastest thrower is and baseball. It used to always be Chapman. If you look at some of those sites, they show the the speed of Jordan Hicks his fastball, and he famously even hit one oh five last year. He needs to strike out. Dudes more. He needs to improve his slider. More Yati or Molina and Jordan Hicks pointed that out during the winter warm up, and these are these are doable. Things is slider was nasty later in the season at least more than it was in the first part of the season. So yeah, he's just a young gone a fireballer and what a great stories diabetic as well. He takes those shots every day. And he's been in. Operation to a lot of a lot of people in Saint Louis as well playing with believe, it's type two diabetes. So a great story, Jordan Hicks. So we'll see if you get more strikeouts. This year. Yeah. Absolutely. Join hicks. His great store. I didn't know diabetic which is cool to bid. I mean this. I mean being diabetic obviously is going to hold you back max Domi out Montreal Canadian NHL. You know, his dad was an angel player. He's a top six NHL player. He also has diabetes and he's diabetic. So nearly cool. It's something that you know, kinda show people. Hey, a little bit different. Who cares? You can still you can still dominate in a sport and played at a high level. Yeah. With all that there. I mean, everything seems like we said before, you know, before we get on this podcast, and sorta in started recording, you know, we had this locked up. This team is ready to go. She's organization at this point one thing that also helped this team, and it was the sausa-, obviously. You kind of fired your manager midyear you kind of forget that -ccomplish manager and accomplish manager a former player he's been two World Series. I mean, he is a very long resume. What was that? Like, I mean that was a big twist. I mean, also and I were talking about before. And you know, we just want to know from a from a fans respect some of the falls team and everything like that. What was it like around the media? What was a Reich about the team? What was the clubhouse was there meeting? Everyone sit down and say, hey, boys, been fun butter. I got like, oh was it a big you this and that chairs being thrown what was it kind of like? And what was the mood around it afterwards? Because obviously it might have been a little sad for a couple of days. But then you guys went on your hottest streak of the season. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of unpack there when you when you look at Mike Messini, you gotta put it in context with the with the history of the Saint Louis cardinals. They entered the two thousand eighteen season. They had missed the playoff. Offs the previous two years and not. And while they were missing the playoffs there. He their hated rivals. The heated rivalry with this cargo cubs taken off to another level in the cubs became champion and the cardinals were slipping and they entered the two thousand eighteen season knowing that Mike Metheny needed to do something to get the team into the postseason or else they would possibly make a make a change the the the team wouldn't say that publicly, but you know, as a columnist. I I wrote a such and that that that this was his final year if they missed the playoffs, and I even wrote in spring training like look if he they're struggling in June or July mean why why not why why stick with him because this team has a as a lot of great players as could be ninety plus win teen on they clearly weren't playing like that by the time. Mike Metheny was fired. So yeah, they got rid of him and. Derek Gould is is the great beat writer for the post dispatch. He wrote a great story comparing Mike Metheny follow me on this to the the old the basketball coach, Dan isel who was a star with the Denver Nuggets. But then became the coach of the Denver Nuggets. And Dan nestles line was by joining the team as the coach now, I'm possibly giving up the Ovation's in the future the idea of like right now if I walked into the arena, they'd give me a standing ovation from the former star player, but if I'm the coach, and I blow it I'm no longer. Just the former star player, I'm the coach the blue. And that's kind of what happened to Mathie who was a beloved catcher for St Louis. Played on many playoff teams stayed in the community, of course. And then was named manager went to the World Series as the manager. But towards the end there things fell apart under his watch other making a lot of errors. There was a lot of bullpen bungling and the. The cardinals got rid of them. And they promoted a guy who isn't a famous name. But in the cardinals is Mike Schultz was the coaching equivalent of Alex race, if you will a prospect that they groomed in their own system that they thought had major major potential and Mike Schultz is a different man than Mike Athenee. He is he's very more way. More personable. He'll crack a joke. He tells us players. I'm not here to judge you. I'm here to love you. That's his famous quote created a thing called ball talk before the games where he basically has opened his office door two guys that sit here on the couches and tell stories and talk baseball and that created a good vibe around the cardinals. And and yeah, it led to some winning. And they didn't win it off. They I can't remember how many they had last year was eight wins or there in eighty eighty six. Eighty eight range did not make the playoffs for the third year in a row, but there was optimism under my. Built. So here we are. Then they add Andrew Miller than they had Paul Goldschmidt. They hope to get more out of Marcello SUNA. We talked about some of the young players there. A lot of optimism here. Saint louis. The cardinals will make the playoffs. Finally for the first time after missing it for three years and last Sunday, Mr. for three years was last century from nineteen ninety seven to nine hundred ninety nine. So you're awesome. Tell everybody where they can find your work and find you on Twitter. Sure, our website for the Saint Louis post dispatch is S T L today dot com, and I'm on Twitter at Hochman at H O C H M A N at Hochman than mos- on their own on Twitter. So look for in a four to meet some new fans shut his boxes a little while this week. Stephen Bruno actually joins me to talk about the NL central. If you don't know. Stephen is Stephen is a recently retired Chicago Cubs. Infielder sway figured. It'd be perfect die to have on to talk about all these guys one guy in particular. In his top five. He doesn't know how he did it. But he did hit a home run off of him. Stay tuned to find out who it was Dave is actually at the end a little bit of scheduling conflict. They're not really conflict but little interlock, but Dave's comments are at the end. So enjoy it. What is your top five list in this NL central division? It is an absolutely stuck division. Like, we just talked about pitching wise, and even heavier probably reliever was than any other division. What kinda is your top five? Awesome. It's it's it's a tough one. Do the best. I can narrow down not in any particular order. I think. You know, when you when you look at our lists. You know, you can you can switch names here and there, but I would say I'd say haters definitely on the top. He pretty much emerged as as delete reliever his pissed year. I had experienced face him few years and how that go. It's funny. The first couple of times face them. I don't think I saw a fastball. Meaning he threw a fastball. I never saw and actually had homerun off in spring training couple years ago. They had close my eyes in somehow make contact that's something to tell the grandkids. Definitely I would say haters up there. I don't know if it's anyone on any of your list. But I think that Jordan Hicks is is is gonna be. I mean, I know has somewhat of a control issue sometimes. But I think he's going to emerge especially how young he is down the road just here in some of the interviews that he has that guy's got a good head on his shoulder while young he is. So I think he's going to be on my list lesser, obviously is is been a league for many many years as you continue to get continue to get older. You know in the the the less hardy throws. The more accurate is in his location. I think that's what makes him elite is he dominated from velocity standpoint early on his career. And now, he's you know, he's starting to get his location down. Conceit here. See have Lester, you have Hicks hater if hater in which two of the three on my list and Hicks was an honorable mention. Okay. Okay. You know, man. You. I'm going to say I'm gonna say this name, I'm gonna say this name, and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna critique me. But I believe I believe you Darvish is gonna be on my list as well. Although. I think a you may say I'm biased for for being with the cubs organization. But I think he's a dominant pitcher. I think unfortunately, what he went through last year in injury in not being able to help the team. I think he is is is elite pitcher he's dominate. And I think he's going to help the cubs succeed. He's going to be that that fourth or fifth guy that they need it. Fully definitely a you know can really contribute organization like said amaze dominated in the past with injuries. Fortunately, but I believe he's he's definitely on on my list. He got one more man is tough is phenomenal division. You have guys like Archer, Mike lists. I have a name that you're gonna kinda just probably be like, whoa. Really like we can get to my. List if you wanna try to figure out that v guy. Gimme gimme gimme a second. It's tough, man. You look through all these names, and it's down like there's no other way to put it like, it's it's reliever heavy as the analyst is starter heading. Can we give me some of the names on your list haters, obviously, I think everybody should probably have him number one at this point just because even even with some adversity last year. I mean, you know, the whole digging in people's Twitter thing happened and all that nonsense. That's a whole nother topic. But I mean he was dominant last year. He did everything possible that he could to earn a number one spot on guys 'less, John Lester model for consistency. Nobody nobody is done it better in the time stretch. I mean, he's adjusted still can't though the first base, but you know, some camping we can't fix everything. Would you still the glove? Michael is was phenomenal for the cardinals last year's like kind of quietly put together. One of the best cardinal pitching seasons. In the past ten years. Dave's list includes guy like Carlos Martinez, who's extremely naturally downloaded. Philippi. Romero Jose, glazed they could kinda go hand in hand. If we if we really wanna talk about it, depending on who you prefer better, closer wise, two guys that were absolutely phenomenal for the teams that they played on last year and have the stuff in have the opportunity to do a lot more in the future. Now, an honorable mention that people are gonna roll their eyes that like when we make these lists. It's kinda like projecting what they'll do for twenty nineteen. I think sunny gray is going to have a pretty damn good bounceback year, reuniting with his Vanderbilt pitching coach being out of New York. Despite what people think that everybody's built for New York. I mean, I think that's I think that's a fair statement. Don't you think I'm I agree with that? It's funny. They said I forgot that the. There Johnson moved over to the reds. And he was the pitching coach for Sunday. Great Vanderbilt can realize that I know he was with the brewers previously. But I think that'll help sunny a lot. I mean, he was an absolute Phoenix at Vanderbilt me. They that's a factory, you know, that right? But I mean any any thoughts. I mean, Jordan Nino is again, I I think that. I mean when you look at the last few years in in you look at those. There's analytic stats. I think that those have emerged as in a pretty good evaluator of of in not only offense defense, but also pitching over the last few years. But you kinda you can't forget Kyle Hendricks man, really chant, and it's easy to get lost in the shuffle to you know, he's he's not the stereotypical new age pitcher, you know, he was easy to Tom glavin. Greg Maddux type s player obviously would not the accolades they have yet. But I mean, he is I'm gonna go with him for number five again. I'm cubs heavy, but. With the. Proper. Proof of how successful they were of the last few years somebody go Hendrix, Lester Darvish Hicks in hater. Will this goes at the tail end of the cardinals episode? So the cardinals at thought about a thought about that. Because when I looked at the episode picture, right? It's you and your I will cubs hat on the bottom in at the bottom of the cardinals page. I wonder how cardinals fans are gonna react to that one. But we're just going to go with who's going to go. Jordan Hicks in there. All right. Yeah. I mean is hater the best pitcher that you've ever faced? I was as the best pitcher. Yes. Facing him a few times he faced so many good pitchers over the years in maybe once or twice, but I could say man, he's he's a different animal when you step up in the box, you go from room his wind up to electric his fastball is and talk about spin rate now guy, it gets real low to mid nineties when it comes out looks like it's one hundred five so those one of those guys that you go up to the plate, and you really don't have much of an approach. The only approach you may have is trying to make contact. And there's only a few those guys Mike career that that I had had approached with so haters f for a guy like that. He's not a starter. You don't know when you're going to see him a caddy. No. What are you ready is? He is a guy, you know, you know, you know, when I faced him with the. Colorado Springs faced him with the Black Sea in double in AAA in. He's the type of guy that before the series starts. She go in a just try to watch video of of not only your theirself facing. But other right handed guys in the top or way bottom of the lineup to see how they pitch him how he pitches them. Whereas going first pitcher. Particular counties gonna throw his off speed. He just kinda try to golf tendencies. And that's kinda how I did it with a lot of pitchers is, you know, based on guys like myself as hitters, you know, how how those pitchers you're gonna attack those guys in particular count in particular situations. And then you build your plan off that depending on on how you're feeling that the plate that particular month or week or day it all varies, but. He's a type of guy man that you just gotta go up and try to make contact with fastball. Do you have to give up? They Jordan Hicks. I never got chance to face Jordan Hicks. I think he went from an what was his jump this year from rookie ball the big leagues. Yeah. It was. It was he went like a two year stretch for he came all the way up. It was like an Andrew Benintendi esque. Pole vault, basically, a special player, man. Well, I thank God that I never got the face. Sure, I sure I got a K you my statistic line. So is there anybody that had your number like, you know, facing them like you just couldn't figure them out. That's a good question and them about the ask you the exact opposite here in a second. That's a really good question. Nobody. Number. You know, I can't really think of anybody particular. I know I kind of dumped it on too. So it's like. I always had a problem face in. Over the last two years is when you kinda see guys more consistently planning AAA in in the smaller division. I always had a problem facing Mike Myers. He was as a reliever with the with the Memphis redbirds in. He has plenty of time in the big leagues with the cardinals. But some reason man, he his fist was another one. Like like baiter like Batur haters, the just rose in. I couldn't get on playing with it. I had difficulty. A successful against my did get one hit this year. Resolve my pine tar my bat. And that was an infield hit. But. The guy that I can think off the top of my head anybody that you that you had their number. I don't think Marcus Stroman ever got me out. Really? Yeah. We face each other in college actually played with each other and Heisman, right? He went to do. Go went to Virginia. He's from the northeast right outside New York City. I believe you we went to high school, and but the everytime face them in pro ball end in college. I always always had good at bats against against. Sometimes you see pictures. Well, and you know, maybe catch them on a bad day knew had a good day at kind of thing. So. That's a guy that that that I've always had success against hater is the next Andrew Miller. He's gonna be next grim reaper. He's unbelievable. And he's gonna keep doing it for a while. Unbelievable. Your this year? Unbelievable the playoffs. That's another reason. You gotta be able to do it in both especially if you're gonna be on a good team like the brew crew are so that's why he's one LeicesteR the model of consistency. The guy's been around forever has won multiple series in absolute moose in the playoffs. And he is like Tom Brady where the older he gets. He's still getting better. He's still pitching close to meetings. He's still going to win you bunch of games. And he's gonna keep his ERA at a very manageable route throughout the regular season in the postseason, his, you know, psychopath takes over as even better. Michael is an open like he's just there. He's going to be a top five pitcher in a National League this year. He's sick. He's on a great team. He's gonna have great support. He's not going to have to be the number one star in that team in that town, which I think makes it easier for everybody involved doing it by committee with a bunch of stars is great in another star on that teams calls from tina's. I've been Carlos Martinez legitimately going. To be a top ten pitcher in baseball within next year the year after I think he has all the stuff that people like to say, I think he just needs to learn how to control it at Dickey's. Learn stay in shape there were rumblings of him being a little odd shape and little injury prone. If you get in better shape, if you look at the Galle Raphael Denver's people as worried about him do the treadmill stopping AAA in, you know, loading up on guac and ice cream all the time. It'll be fine. And the last one Trevor Williams, I really like Trevor Williams one of those guys that you heard his name for a long long time. And you're like, okay, he's here. Now, I think you'll be here to stay. I think he's gonna work his way up. I think he's gonna be a great addition to, you know, mid round fantasy is in that realm. But also just going to be a dominant pitcher antigen be quietly like make himself in all star and sunny, gray like you mentioned before on your list. I mean, a he does better in smaller markets. He's going to be in a smaller market. I said if the reds actually made some moves that they would be over seventy seven wins. So I'm sticking to that. I think they win any games this year reuniting with his vandy pitching. Coach is going to help a lot. I mean getting back to his roots. You know, doing the fundamental things. Right. You're not being in New York is going to help a lot. Yeah. It's going to help his mental state for sure. But just getting back to the little things you lose focus in that. You lose you lose. You know, the effort in the drive to do it as well. I mean, you saw him when he was getting rock sometimes he's laughing coming off the mount he's just like I can't believe this on on so bad right now. And I think having him be a reset. He reminds me a lot of that Grinky. He's a little bit of a mental case the stuff is there. But you gotta get them in the right location and Grank he found themselves in Arizona, but he's every other year type guy, I think sunny grades going to bounce back this year. He can't do any worse. Honestly. But I also think getting back in the smaller market with less pressure. And with is big for him. I think being in a familiar place with large vacations is better than jumping around trying to be the man, I don't think grays ever gonna be the man of a staff. He reminds me more like, you know, David price. He doesn't. That's the thing. And that's the thing. He doesn't it. But in New York, he was kinda brought in to be the next big thing. Right. He's going to be the number two in be sevi- sunny Cy youngs for the next ten years and just didn't work out like that.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 237  QFTA

The Tim McKernan Show

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 237 QFTA

"Yes. Yes, welcome in to another dish of Tim mckernan show on the inside T L podcast network, from the hormone expert dot com studios are podcast, presented by Ryan Kelly, the home loan expert dot com, Mark Hanna of evergreen wealth strategies James Carlton. Carlton state farm insurance agency design air heating and cooling online at designer service dot com than ruin train dealer in the West End, Johnny Llandough Chevrolet online at Llandough dot com. Highway two seventy and the Washington has exit. If you are a fan of the podcast, please make sure you support our sponsors without them. We have no podcast. I don't say that lightly. I mean, it it's questions from the audience. And I really am excited about the questions today. Good ones on the fan page. Good ones in the Email, and, and I tip my cap t mckernan inside a steel that calms. How you can send them to me anytime you'd like. TMC. K. E. R N, A N at inside us -til that com-. And if you want your name read that's great. Otherwise, I will air on the side of caution, and not read your name. I'm going to go through the phones on the TMA fan page, I that's the. TMA fan page. And if you do want to join it in there like seven thousand eightyish members right now. Seven thousand ninety two there are some questions, and this is just to prevent bots and, or fake accounts from getting, even though I know some still slipped through. So make sure answer those other wise, you'll sit in purgatory forever. So I answered the questions if you want to join the team may fan page, which is fun and games throughout the course of the day with seven thousand ninety two people. All right area. What do we have here, a why does John Cletus Watson have to pull his pants all the way down to we at the right great question? That's a great question to start thing. Cletus for those of you not familiar is a, a friend of mine in day known listener of the Ryan Kelly morning after the radio program who call, I think. And seems to have to urinate every hole. He plays. And when he does he does just drop his pants. He doesn't use the restroom the way most men do I don't, I don't have an explanation for it. I have seen images of it, and I have seen it in person, I was driving my one year old and a cart, and we turn the corner and there was cleanest doing that. So that was a great baptism form. So I don't have an answer as to why, but I can confirm that it is that it is true. Let's see what we got. I like I got this a few times, both in Email, and I feel a couple of times in the fan page two. Is baseball more boring in general with all the strikeouts. Or are the cardinals just a boring team? It's been hard for me to get engaged the past few years. Of course, I'm asking this is Jack flirty gives up two home runs the as take the lead, and somebody then follows up by saying it's nine thirty. The game started at seven and it's just the fifth inning. It's ridiculously slow and boring as hell to watch than the original poster says, I want to say it's because we just had the Stanley Cup playoffs, but it's been like this for a few years. I like this question. I like this question a lot because it kind of forces me to reflect on it. I don't know what has happened. And if it's chicken or a in that the product is boring, and therefore, I'm not as interested in the cardinals, or I'm just moving away from my interest in baseball, which was for certain in, I don't know if it's still is my first love, but I can tell you that I feel like this is going. At this moment at this moment, it can change. This is like the fourth straight cardinal season of I would rather them be terrible than this kind of the other two games out. But every is kind of, like, yeah, they have zero potential to win a championship. The problem is you would go well, if you look for months into the blue season, you'd say they're zero chance of them winning the Stanley Cup or four months into the two thousand six cardinals or four months into the two thousand eleven cardinals. And so we've had these three statistical outliers lead to championships. Unlike say if the two thousand four cardinals would have been the only World Series champions that we've seen in Saint Louis that team didn't win it. And yet, I think most fans would say, that's the best team. We've seen the last thirty years around here and they got swept in the World Series. So it's tough to two two totally say a team can't win when we've seen three teams that I think most of us felt like couldn't win wind up winning world championships two World Series and won Stanley Cups. That's a weird spot. But I just I I look at this, and I'm just oh, here's the other thing, the roster the cardinals have as. As we close out June is different than the roster that we thought they were going to have when we left Jupiter, or even when we got to Jupiter. Jordan Hicks situation is now a substantial problem. Carlos Martinez is not a starter. Now I gather is going to be the closer and then you have some guys who are just on the other side of thirty who are not performing, and in, in really bad ways met carpenters, the mad carpenter the first half of last year. Paul Goldschmidt is the Paul Goldschmidt. We've never seen before. And then you just have a few guys were candidates average to below average be kinda they'd be below average going in and then Marcello Zuma is the one offensive piece that you feel good about. But he's a free agent a few months, and then it's like, okay if you wanna pursue Marcello soon, and I have a bunch of dollars tied up in a handful of players. So how you gonna handle that? It's a it's a weird spot. In that it's the same spot. They've been in for the last three years, I feel like which is you're at the end of July and you're like having I'm having the same argument of have with Doug, and the cat, which is I'd really like to see them sell. Which isn't what I'm saying right now, but that's where we were in sixteen seventeen and eighteen but I also understand why they didn't because they were close in one of or both of the respective postseason spot races. So that's why say it rather them. Be totally out of it, and then they could make a move. I also feel like there's a there's a general frustration with the organization. That, you know. That I thought might be eliminated when Mike Metheny was fired, but it's, it's still there. It certainly still there might even be more intense and I don't know. I occasionally see it, but it's, it's like kind of like when a news organization sites one bad shit tweet and building entire segment around it. So I don't wanna make it sound like it's, it's everywhere. But, you know, they won't spend money and it's like, oh, jeez. You know, he's signed Paul Goldschmidt to a monster dealer. We really going to do that, or we really going to do that. Because it just it, it really if anything they've spent money irresponsibly. They've identified talent really poorly either for the people. They've brought in or the people, they've let go, and I think that to me is where you have the discussion. I thought Derek Gould story this past weekend in the Saint Louis post dispatch was outstanding in that it broke down a lot of these trades have been made that you dislike how look who is gone. Look what they're doing elsewhere and look who the cardinals got for those players. Look at the cardinals worth trying to sign is free agents or did. Try to sign or did sign as free agents and look what they've brought to you look at the fact that Mike leaks pitching quite well in Seattle in the cardinals or paying a good portion of his salary. I mean, there is an issue in this, this issue. This, this opinion was felt by a number of people going into the twenty eighteen season credible people that Mike Metheny is the one who's going to take the fall if this team fails. But look at this team this team is not necessarily a great team. And I'm talking twenty eighteen not twenty nineteen I didn't miss speak. And then, of course, Mike Metheny took the fall. And, and then I think a lot of people like an, they saw what happened in August with Mike Schill twenty tonight, say it was Mathie but in speaking with some people tied to that team was kind of, like, yeah, we were winning. But we kind of felt like we were playing above our heads. And then also, if you look back on the schedule at that time and not many people were talking about that, but we weren't exactly killing it. And then when we did have to play the brewers dodgers at the end of the year. Remember what happened? So. So I think that needs to be included into discussion. It is an odd thing. I have very little interest in watching the cardinals play very little interest in watching the cardinals play. But I've had very little interest in watching the cardinals play for the last few years. I, I don't. It's I don't I have not worked in media in Saint Louis at a time where I feel this apathy is the word. I think I don't think there's that much, there's certainly anger. But again, it gets a wing of the fan base. It's apathy and also dislike God, this team is how if anything I mean, people are almost frustrated by the fact that they're only a couple of games out of first place because it just doesn't stand reason when you think of first place cardinal teams from, you know, the last twenty years. So I also think that the, the bringing up the Stanley Cup playoffs thing you're going from the intensity of that, and how it's action constantly in near death experiences or near euphoric experiences. At least, you know, God, I don't know five a minimum per period. An every one of the matters, and you're talking about twenty six games of that, which means twenty six nights or days of that, and all. Also that it was uncharted territory for blues fans of a certain age, and even those that around sixty eight sixty nine seventy I would imagine would agree that this was a whole different world than that. Then that, yes, this is this is this is this is feel so much floor. But it's also it's a team like who gets you excited. I don't know who gets you excited, and I think there's some concern that is bad as it is right now. And again, bad being relative, they start are in a race. I mean, I think it's getting overstated and I think part of it is just the success has been expected but for his bad as it is right now. I it's not like you go well next year will be better. You don't I mean Alex Rae is the situation is starting to make me wonder if we're ever going to see him. Jordan Hicks is not gay. Jordan Hicks come back. That's not real highly likely at the level that he was thrown one hundred four miles an hour on five once, but that's not going to be for year with having Tommy, John. Marcello soon even going to be part of the team. I'm not sure even want him to be part of the team. I know that's a prisoner that would sound like take that we get killed by prisoners of the moment. And I listen, I would understand why they would pursue. My also wanna understand why they, they would go God, we, we can't or we need to unload and eat a bunch of a contract here with follower. I mean they're, it's that's the thing. It's not like you know you go. Yeah. They suck now but I see TJ. Oh, she coming that type of thing that maybe blues fans felt during like two thousand seven so I understand it because it doesn't look really impressive, and then also just in general baseball. You know, the strikeout versus homerun thing, the, you know, I mean my falling in love with baseball came during the, the air of the stolen base. And yeah. Home runs are strikeouts. Doesn't really fascinate me the shift may be plays a role in it. I don't know. I just know. I, I wonder it's like like the college basketball discussion. I will occasionally have if Missouri and or Saint Louis U and, or Illinois were really good, would I feel the way I feel about college basketball because while Saint Louis you went to the tournament this year. That was a surprise in Missouri went last year. Albeit is kind of a you figured they best would have two games, even though the team that they lost to end up going deep in an eight nine matchup that I just I for me. I just don't think college basketball's ever gonna come back, at least under the current format. Now, maybe it changes in need not have the one in Duns, and maybe it changes, but I just don't think it's going to come back. And I say that even if Missouri is good. I said, even if Saint Louis you is gonna fail. Annoys good. I just that's and I don't know if my ship has sailed here with baseball, but if has has, but I feel like this is kind of going on, which is why this whole thing about being the best baseball fans. It's kinda like okay, what city really is synonymous with baseball outside of Saint Louis. I don't know. And so it's like this odd source of civic pride about these Ovation's that such a weird thing to me. I mean listen, it doesn't bother me. It's just it's like why do gives us shit as we stand up for baseball players? I you know what is what does? I don't know. And like Pat ourselves on the back about it. I don't I don't know. I don't. And I wanna make it clear that the pools thing I believe, like ninety five percent of the people doing it. Where either there to enjoy him themselves or to show their kids who may not have been old enough to even know what was going on when he was doing what he was doing. You know because I haven't I haven't taken my son to a game yet, but I was thinking about just taking him to so he can say he saw Albert pools play, even though he wouldn't remember it but I'm talking about like Ovation's for, like skip Schumacher. I mean, it's kind of, like look at us, I feel like there's a lot of that when that's going on the Elbe pools thing was different. But with that said the point in in bringing it up is it's not like the game is surging with young people as far as an audience goes it's surging and regional audiences but it's an older demographic, but which would fit Saint Louis at this particular moment. Yeah. So if you are younger, and you are into the NBA or you are into the NHL or you are into. To soccer, or you are into the NFL or college football. And then you flip over to a baseball game. Wow. I mean it isn't it? It's an it's an aggressive shift in pace. And, and this is coming from somebody who loves the game. You know way more than I would think the average person has throughout my life. But, you know, at this point, I don't know. So that's why I wonder if the cardinals got it going would I be engaged to the level that I was even you know, in two thousand fifteen you know, we're not talk about twenty years ago, and I don't know. I don't know. I'd be curious. I'd love to see that means they got it going in, by the way, I'll put it on the record here. Kind of like the weird thing with feeling. The blues would lose game six but then win game seven that I think the cardinals are going to get it going. I just I you know, even though the a lot of these guys are on the other side of thirty and it might not come back to the level that it did. I just think mathematically, it would make no sense for them continue to be. Yeah. So be low their career projections in just have have moves it. So our buying up players and fantasy baseball. I try and get Paul Goldschmidt. I'd try and get mad carpenter right now. That's that's the time to buy do with that. What you want. All right. What are we got what do we got what we got? You know, James Carlton of the Carlton state farm insurance agency is my insurance agent. So this is a first hand endorsement of James Carlton and his staff in Webster. Groves three one four nine six one forty eight hundred or go online at Carlton insurance dot net. I think a lot of people just go Kay. We'll have got a guy. I've got a lady, I'm good. I don't really care to talk about insurance. It's something, you know, I'm twenty five whatever and that's fine. 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If your insurance costs a leg and arm call James Carlton state, people like this one. My answer won't really excite them. But I'll address it. Have you spoken with Senator Danforth by Josh hollies performance as a Senator date? I imagine the author of faith in politics was vocal support of holies would be alarmed that his protege has become so far right wing that he has been called by one article quote the one man, most likely to turn the United States into a theocracy and quote, assuming you cannot share private conversations. Do you think he at least recognizes the contradiction? This is turned out to be like you've stated I also have been repulsed by greitens and Holly and their willingness to be anything to anybody for the sheer purpose of serving their own ambitions. You are correct in that even if I did have a conversation with him about it. I wou unless he said, yeah, you're more than welcome to talk about this. I would not, you know, and I think most of you would hope under. Stand. Why wouldn't violate a president and making a public, but we have not talked about it. We did talk about it leading into the election. And it's like the first time or his is kinda lit up and he's like, oh, good. You wanna debate me? Let's debate and you know, he kinda got back into his US Senator mode and, and I expressed to us. I listen, I know you're a fan of this, this guy in a big way. He's a big. He was a big fan before he was even running for for Senate. But I said he just he is he is not my style, and that's not like he's a Republican. And therefore, that's not it, it was recognizing some traits. And obviously, he's now cut from the same cloth is greatness style of governing. So it's not just like Republican Republican has nothing to do with that. It has nothing to do with that. It's not like I was some enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter. I am the democratic candidates, I guess, a portion of them because there are so many are debating tonight, and I really have zero. Oh, interesting watching it candidly. So this, this isn't a political thing so much as it say. Intuitive read on what this person who posted this said, which is I have been repulsed by greitens, and Hawley in their willingness to be anything to anybody for the sheer purpose of serving their own ambitions, that essentially sums it up that sums up my read. Do I think that it that I'm on all the time? No. Because I can't imagine that I am. But I do feel good about the very least I don't know when I started having these I felt really good about. John McCain in two thousand I can tell you that you go. Well, he didn't get the nomination in two thousand I said, I know and I think that's the beginning of a lot of problems. The South Carolina primary of two thousand as a watershed moment in the history of the United States is weird is that statement might sound because I don't know who in the world would even remember that. But if you wanna dig into it dig into it, because I think that was a significant moment in the history of this country and. And what wound up happening there, then what that then led to, and then what that then led to in the what that says this domino effect? That's why say that. So without all said, whether it be being horrified by a variety of candidates since then or feeling like I was right on reads on candidates since then, I'm, I'm pleased with the intuition, I guess, but inevitably that streaks gotta come to an end. I would think, but, you know, I don't know if you start going into it, then it's like, oh, you're taking this. It's an it's not some trying to think of some. I had a bad feeling about John Edwards. Sarah Palin was like the moment to me where I'm like, wow. This has now been normalized. I mean she's a weekend sports anchor I was weekend sports anchor. I do not believe I'm qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency even if I can talk and get a certain segment of population riled up. So it kinda got this. This is the different world than fifteen years ago. And, and a lot of people thought that was a different world then but yeah, I can't speak for Jack Danforth. I would love to have him on. But if I know Jack Danforth it's not like he would go. Yes, I am appalled. It just would just wouldn't be his style. So, you know, I I I'm not and it wouldn't be right for me to speak for them. But, you know, Josh Holly is, who I thought Josh Hollywood, let me put it that way. And if I were sitting down again, with lunch with Senator Danforth, I realized. Yep. And I don't know what he would say, but I know I would. Yep. All right. Let's see how much has the blues playoff hockey reduced. Your. Here'