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Billikens Basketball Update with Travis Ford  January 30, 2020

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Billikens Basketball Update with Travis Ford January 30, 2020

"Welcome into my weekly visit with head coach Travis Ford at the Saint Louis University billions billions. Coming off a terrific win last night on the road in overtime. Seventy seven to seventy six over lasalle up next as they continue their trip through Philly. It'll be Saint Joe's lots of topics to get into Jordan Goodman and becomes a thirty second player with one thousand points in Slough Billick in history. We'll talk about the Saint Joe's game LaSalle game last night. The impact of a former manager now now playing meaningful minutes for the billions Joshua hightower and Kobe. Brian Great Story from Travis about Kobe. Bryant and Howard pertains to Saint Louis University Billiton's this is presented by Royal Bank's Missouri visit them at Royal Bank of Mo- dot Com they remain locally owned. They offer a full full range of banking services to individuals and business clients in the Saint. 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What were your thoughts taken away from the the w last night well you know first of all thanks good to be with you You know we. We came out of the gates on the road in a very difficult place has always been difficult. I've played that Lasalle many times And we played really well from the beginning to have time had a ten point lead A lot of the first half Really liked a lot of the things that we were doing. They opened it so played a lot zone against us But really thought we put together very good half came out second half Got Up Thirteen. Got Up Thirteen with ten minutes ago and things started to Kinda fall apart. We we got foul trouble was one area that didn't help but we We start taking some tough shots shots. Turn the ball over And they were converting the next thing you know. We're we're headed into overtime. And we went into overtime Dan and The five players that played in overtime to 'em of the We had Josh hightower walk on that played the whole five minutes of overtime TJ Hargrove played the whole five minutes and then we had Hassan French. Jimmy Bell going back and forth 'cause Assan I had four fouls most of the second half in and and all of into overtime and Jordan Goodman and Yuri College so we were playing with kind of a different type lineup all through Overtime but we figured it out. We told our team as they were sitting in front of me as as we were heading into overtime after regulations over and we had those five guys cinema said you are the ones that are GonNa win the game for us You guys are GonNa this five gotta go we don't have anybody else right now. Everybody else is fouled out and they stepped up. And sometimes that's what it takes not told her team afterwards at this time of year It doesn't matter how you win as long as you win but you better learn from it and we've been spending all morning trying to watch film and figure out ways we can get better. How do we continue to get the thirteen point lead but but also how can we go from thirteen to twenty and finish stronger is an area that we're really looking at for fans that don't know tell us the story of Joshua hightower and he? He was critical especially early overtime. But it's a great story in one of You know a guy that perseveres and finds himself playing meaningful minutes on a division one team it is and it's A. It's a good story appreciate you asking. You Know Josh was about this time last year probably or maybe a little bit earlier in January possibly. He was a manager on our basketball team Came to Saint Louis University. They wanted to get a great education They had his major hit. Hit played a little bit of junior college basketball Prior to Saint Louis University but came to go to school and came and Was a manager just wanted to be a manager and if we look at the last year remember all the entries we had so we were down to like eight players in in practice and and we had heard that Josh was a pretty good player so You know we said Hey. Would you like to kind of become a walk on and help us out. We need practice players and he said absolutely love to. That's what I really came here for is to walk on So absolute speed up a little bit candid up it just really playing well and practice every day. I mean just kept impressing day after day after day always lunar says that will wish we'd known this this from the beginning that you know That's you know get a felt bad and Can't work at all this past summer work very very hard. And I've stated at a many occasions to media and everybody that we we do not hesitate to put Josh. How when the game? We wish we would play more we. I should probably play more because if you watch practice every day you'd think wow he's one of the top players. He plays that well in practice. He's notice a defender he's a really hard nosed defender getting better with his offense but he's gone for being a manager to your man who just helped us win a conference game on the road in overtime making big shot handling the ball playing good defense. It's a great story it really. He is coach. Have you ever had a situation like that. Where a guy was a manager and then all of a sudden starts playing meaningful minutes on a division team? You Know I. I've not one that's is played me meaningful minutes and really contributes like he does in practice every day but I did have a manager When I was head coach at Umass that that I put in That was a manager. That was a manager for us for a long time And really reason I put him on the team His name was Matt. Penny is out of her. It was always his dream. His dream was to be a part of the team and so one day as they. Would you like to be like a welcome. I'd like to dress out and he just starts crying and everybody starts celebrating and You know his his his probably greatest moment on senior night I ended up starting putting him on senior night. In a crucial countries games into the year end. He actually scores The beginning of the game and helps and but you so Just a tremendous person and it but I have done that in the past but not not just. Somebody's extent like Josh. How Tower who could get it only game this point? We'll we'll probably play you know more minutes. It's an amazing story and it does remind you that these guys are college kids. They're student athletes. Which means means when you go on the road? I'm sure part of your time in Philly right. Now is all about hitting the books and studying which is something you have to incorporate as a college college head coaches you go on the road and make sure guys don't fall too far behind with with school work. I assume well as we sit here and talk Our kids are in study study hall right now for a little over an hour They'll stay in there for couple of hours. Do it again tomorrow We we are traveling with Then academic advisor with US organizing it and Helping run the study hall and Helping our young man so absolutely when you on the road especially this time of year when they're her missing class You gotta spend time on what's important and yes we we watch film at night. We watch film in the morning but during the day They're diving. Having entered their classwork we saw Jordan Goodwin last night thirty-second player in Slough history as a junior now at a thousand points. He said he had quote the mob mentality thirty in honor of Kobe Brian. But what did that mean to you to see Jordan Goodwin point number one thousand last night and very meaningful point in that part of the game to What a big the big shots in the game? Three that he made It's so exciting. It was so happy for Jordan is a great honor. They don't realize how difficult it is and and he's still got a year a half left just about so He's GonNa score a lot of a lot more voice before he leaves Slough but you know even that's that you don't get Jordan Jordan by all accounts how we judge the How we looked at as the staff is a game going on tour? Good was was really struggling last life really struggling we were getting frustrated with maybe some of the shots he was taken. But we don't say a whole lot. He does too many things we give him a lot of free rein and we tell our players sometimes. Sometimes you've earned the right As you grow older in a system as you grow older within this program you get more you you get a little more leeway. He's earned earned. The right deserves the right to have more leeway but he was really struggling at times last night but with all that said at the end of the day he made the big play play made the big rebounds he made the big shot and he also ended up with seventeen rebounds or something. Twelve points So he he is set such a high standard for himself that sometimes you might think a guy with those stats and we still looked at it as maybe an off night but to be able to get a thousand points It's big time. It's a credible source side void absolutely coach. Couple more questions and we'll let you go. We know you're busy on the road We saw after the game you met with the media. You're very shook up and the news hit all of us right before the opening tip of the Fordham game on Sunday of Kobe. Brian and those in the helicopter that that passed away. Hi Did you know Kobe. And and what was your tie in with Kobe Bryant. Well it's I did not know Koby he's one of the few players that even thinking about it that I have not been around or met or you know played with or against some form but I studied Kobe. Bryant right quite a bit As far as his work at what the things he did to become a great player. drills did the workouts he did. I've used His example over the past five years or so different videos of him talking about his work ethic different videos of other people talking about hell he committed himself and dedicated himself to become the best at what he did And it's just such a tragic agic loss For his family and all the people who report of the The the the incident tragic tragic crash. it just. It still doesn't seem real. We were talking about it again this morning but it's it it's something to be able to reflect back as we've all we did with our eighteen. Yesterday we showed our team. They video Two days ago while we were here in Philly the night before the game we showed our team video of Kobe Bryant addressing addressing the University of Alabama football like two years ago so two years ago. That's they were coming off a national championship win. Probably get ready to win. Another one. Nick Sabin was sitting in the front row of with this football team listening to Kobe. Bryant so totally why would probably the greatest football coach of all time. Coaching one of the greatest programs of all time bringing a basketball player to talk to his football team. What could he be telling them? So you know he's gotTa be special work ethic and how he approached his crap and then we listened to Kobe. We listen to what he told Alabama football so it hit our team right where it needed to just the message and I could go on and on but just special athlete a special person and You know definitely GonNa be missed with what happened in Oklahoma state coach. Did it did it bring back some some awful memories and the only way I can put it but did it make you think about what you know the people that were affected their and those that you knew at Oklahoma state. It did You know it is. It's she bring that up. It really did. That have talked about it very much but you know what I was gonNA say. He learned a lot about The ten that were lost in the plane crash when Eddie Sutton was the head coach and they were coming back from Colorado and I was fortunate to meet a lot of those families. And just great people who would come back to campus You know a lot of times foresee. Sometimes it was during the anniversary of the plane crash but just incredible. Incredible people who you can only imagine all that they've been through and all the different emotions that go through and I learned a lot about the young men and the different people that were part of that plane crash but also why I'll was there the head women's coach and assistant coach for killing a plane crash a recruiting trip and I can still. You'll remember like it was yesterday the phone call 'cause I was very very close To to Bucky who lost his life and I talked almost daily. Shared ideas almost daily A great coach great man. Great family man still trying to honor them every year here By wearing an orange ribbon and honor of them on that day because I did know them personally and and we're very close so so it does bring you back to those days when something like that happens it does make you reflect on those things So yeah that's I it it definitely hit home. I'll wrap it up with this coach. You've got Saint Joe's coming up this weekend. I'm sure you're studying tape. What can you tell our fans about? the match matchup with the bills and Saint Joe's this weekend. Well I was just on that team this morning. It's interesting you know. You look at Saint Jo's. They got a new coach You know Kinda Rebuilding a little bit. Look at a team that has struggled in league play but every team at the top of the League they take them to the wire they had Rhode Island beat at Home Rhode Island's at the think in second place right now they were up eight to ten with four minutes to go When I was studying to watch Dayton we're GONNA play date and I told our team said guys? It's you'll remember back I told you. Saint Joe's had played Dayton better than anybody. I use some of the things. Saint Joe's did defensively against Dayton. I said that this team plays very well against good teams and I think we're pretty good team. They're averaging thirty. Three's a game. They took forty three threes as in one game this year. So they're relying on the three point line they have the leading score in eighteen On their team young man named days left thing days or transfer from from Delaware. He's averaging about twenty points a game they're playing an MBA style offense Their coach came from the NBA from the Philadelphia. Seventy sixers it's all about spacing. It's all about passing told about ball screening a dangerous team Really dangerous team. Just because they shoot so many threes and We better play extremely well played better than we did last night. In order to get the win looking real quick I want to add. We're talking about Jordan Goodwin scoring thousand points. But also then you know. There's been a little bit. We've had Hassan. French broke the all time shot-blocking right Saint Louis University of the year and then last night Yuri broke the freshman record for this. Yeah last night. So you know all these guys have played at a high level and I told her team does those things are to be celebrated. They are great honors And they are helping US win game so I wanted to add that in and therefore Yuri Collins has on French you bad. Hey coach thank you so much We appreciate it. Always do this every week. I know our fans love it and go get him this weekend. We appreciate. It always enjoyed. Thanks a lot.

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How to Be Much More Interesting & A Fascinating Approach to Managing Your Money

Something You Should Know

51:14 min | 4 months ago

How to Be Much More Interesting & A Fascinating Approach to Managing Your Money

"In a different future starts with you. That's why go daddy does more than help you find a name. You can create cell and found online so any small business could be a driving force to create change or build an empire. We know old ideas are cutting anymore. So we're calling for a new generation thinking your way of thinking so whatever you have in mind that will help make different future. Find everything you need to get started at go daddy dot com because the future is decided yet this up to us to make star different at go daddy dot com today on something. You should know how to protect your cell phone this summer from water and sand for less than ten cents during then sound and solid money advice. You haven't heard before including paying off your mortgage fast and literally. I've just saved listeners. Twenty five years off their mortgage and tens of thousands of dollars in needless interest. This is something you'll never hear about the bag. They have no interesting telling you about that whatsoever. Then ever notice. The grocery stores only have windows in the front. I'll explain why and we speak and listen to people all day long and we could probably be better at it. Listening is not a capability. We treat it like that. We don't teach in schools. We expect kids just to pick up how to listen. It is a skill and it's a skill which when mastered hugh to jews in life all this today on something. You should know support for this. Podcast comes from invent together. According to studies less than thirteen percent of all inventors who hold a us patent are women black and hispanic college graduates patent at half the rate of their white counterparts. But we can fix that by increasing participation in innovation and patenting underrepresented groups. It would quadruple. The number of american inventors and increase annual gdp by almost one trillion dollars. Invent together is a coalition of organizations companies. Universities and concerned citizens committed to ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to invent and patent because the more diverse. The american patent system gets the stronger and more successful. our nation will become. What can you do to help. Divers inventors patent and unleash economic opportunity. Find out at infants. Together dot org learn more and take action today somethingyoushouldknow. You should know fascinating. Intel world's top and practical advice. You can use in your life today. Something should now mike carruthers. Welcome to something you should know. I know a lot of people myself. Included are looking forward to summer of getting outside going places and doing things in a way that we really couldn't do last summer and with the warmer weather that means trips to the beach or the pool or the lake and one of the things you have to consider of course is how to keep your cell phone or tablet dry and sand free while you're at the beach or the lake or the pool and there are special cases in bags you can buy at the store. That will do a fine job of doing that. But a few years ago consumer reports tested plain old baggy sandwich bags and snack bags to see how they performed in protecting cell phones and tablets and what they found. Is they work really. Well the zippered kind. If you zip them up correctly they even dunk them in the water and they kept the dry. Not only that but you could still text dial and even talk through the plastic bag so you never really had to take it out so the next time. You're headed to the beach. The pool of the laker. Wherever you're going you may want to stop at that drawer in the kitchen and grab a plastic bag to put your phone or tablet in and prevent potential disaster. And that is something you should know. Over the years. I have interviewed a lot of financial experts and one of my favorite people who discuss his personal finance is jordan. Goodman jordan's a nationally recognized expert on the subject of finance he's appeared in the media for years. He was the wall. Street correspondent for money magazine and he's authored several books on finance. His latest is called master. Your debt and i liked jordan. Because he doesn't always say the same things that all the other money people say his advice very sound. But it's often a bit different from what you've heard before and i think you'll enjoy what he has to say. Hey jordan welcome to something. You should know great to be with you mike. So let's start with debts and that's the topic of your latest book. And also i think topic on the top of a lot of people's minds where what's the lay of the land. Where are we with. Debt turtle amount of debt in the. Us has roughly thirteen trillion. Roughly ten trillion in mortgage debt credit card debt is roughly a trillion a student loan debt about one point seven trillion a card debt about eight hundred billion. Something like that Some areas are getting better. Some are getting worse. Credit cards is somewhat getting better People are using money to pay down credit card debt the one that's rising that the biggest burden by far is student. Loan debt because People are really having a hard time paying that back. That's that's the biggest crisis right now out there it. Generally i mean people when they hear the word debt there is kind of a negative connotation to it but not all debt is bad yes correct. I mean debt can be used to get things you couldn't get otherwise you can't buy a house if you don't have cash for the house and yet you buy it over time and you pay it down and the mortgage interest is deductible and it's a way of you building equity in theory student. Debt should be a positive. It's giving you the skills to get a career to pay it back and be productive in society That's many cases trooper not always true because a lot of people don't really come out of school with skills that they can use them. They've got the debt without the skills but in theory student loan debt should be kind of wave investing in yourself. Credit card debt in general is not a great thing. it's very high interest rate and is typically for consumable items So people get credit card debt because they don't have the money to make normal a purchases car. Loan debt can be okay. A car is depreciating asset. When borrow for something that's going to appreciate not depreciate but if you don't have the money in the car then got to go into depth to to buy the car so that is not necessarily a bad thing. You should be the master of your debt not the victim of your debt. So what is the difference. How do you tell if you are master of your debt or victim of your debt. You're a master of your data. If you're used the debt to acquire skills or assets that will appreciate in value over time. You're a victim of your debt. If you're paying on something that you really didn't get value for and it's digging yourself deeper and deeper A good example of a positive debt. Would you buy a house at a three percent mortgage rate and you pay it off the house appreciates and that was a very very good use of debt A bad use of debt would be getting into credit card debt where you have eighteen. Nineteen percent interest rates piling up against you all the time. You're getting further and further behind. Do you think that people who are in over their head or getting over their head with credit card debt for example the that they don't know there's a problem or they know there's a problem but they just think i'll deal with it later when i get rich but i think people get into credit card that know the problem they just don't feel there's any solution to them. Their expenses are more than their income and maybe fixed expenses at whether income went down or their expenses went up and they just feel the only way to survive is to float it with credit card debt and that in itself was a very expensive way to deal with having more expensive than income Solution to that is to increase your income reduce your expenses and hopefully positive cash flow to that have negative cash flow. We have about a trillion dollars worth of credit card debt out there and at very high interest rates and the people got into that credit card debt in general did not want to enter the credit card debt but they felt they had to survive. Is it just kind of well. I'll charge this. Because i don't have enough money this month but i'll pay it back next month but then next month comes in something else happens is is that typically kind of how. It's just kind of a slippery slope or what. Well that's right. It is a slippery slope. And of course the american society makes it very easy to get credit card debt. First of all. I make it quite available you get mailings all the time offering you to sign this and you get free money and look very very easy on of course the whole society is based around merchandising and selling and buying things they want to sell you whether you can afford. It is not their problem. It's your problem to figure out whether you can actually buy things so people go for what i would call candy. You know the latest iphone or they just new car furniture. Tv's whatever it may be where they can afford it or not. There is a certain kind of delusion in that. I'll figure out later and later arrives. They don't have the money and they pay a lot of interest started. It can cost you more interest in the original thing cost. That happened for houses. People end up over thirty years paying more interest for the house and they actually paid for the house originally but at least you're getting some deductions you're building equity. If you're using credit debt for normal everyday expenses or consumables the things that i immediately go away like vacation that there's no return on investment for that and when you find yourself in trouble what do you do. I mean if in fact your income doesn't cover your expenses will your income doesn't cover your expenses. So that's correct him of people get into debt so there are various ways of dealing with that as far as credit card debt There are you can do Nonprofit credit counseling where they will consolidate your debt into one payment at a lower interest rate. there's debt settlement. We settle the debt for pennies on the dollar. That really hurts your credit badly. You can do it but There's a real penalty for for doing something like that. And of course the end of the line is bankruptcy bankruptcies or down recently people are being more conservative with their debt. We had a big explosion. Debt going into the crash in two thousand eight then. The banks clamped down sharply and they've been more cautious on opening things up over the last few years so fewer people are in credit card debt problems than they were say in the two thousand one thing people have often done when they have high interest debt like credit card debt is to take a mortgage second mortgage out on the house so they they now pay it off at a lower interest. I is that a good idea. That is not a good idea. But you're right people do that all the time. What you're doing is exchanging short-term debt for consumables for long term debt based on an asset and it sounds good. I don't wanna be paying off a meal that i ate a month ago over the next thirty years and pay interest on that. Neil that was long ago consumed. So i i don't like taking short-term data and paying off with with long-term debt which is typically a mortgage is going to be now if you do a home equity line. That's something that is more flexible. And you can pay it back when you get income in. And it's deductible to some extent. But i do not like paying off short-term debt with long-term debt and getting himself into long-term trouble because what happens mike is that then you pay off the credit cards and then you spend the credit cards right back up again and now you've got the long-term debt and the short term debt if the the basic income and expenses ratio out of whack. Yeah i've seen that happen. I know people that that that's exactly what happens is they. They do something like get a line of credit or take out a mortgage balances on their credit cards down to zero and then of course now they go lay look. Hey i don't have any credit card. Deng run these right babies right back up again. Exactly which the credit card companies love. That's why they keep extending credit to people They have incredibly good profit margin. Remember the bank is paying you zero on your savings at the bank. And they're charging you. Fourteen eighteen twenty percent credit cards so it's incredibly profitable for them and they can afford to take some losses on people who don't pay because most people do pay so that's why they keep pushing credit cards all over the place not a good use of debt. I must say better use of debt is to use what's called the mortgage optimization strategy where you can pay your mortgage off much much faster than most people ever thought possible typically five to seven years. I think you've seen a copy of my book. Master your debt and i've got a chapter on that called mortgage free and five to seven years. If you use your home equity line of credit as almost like a checking account you can make dramatic progress on paying off your principal. Much much faster than you ever thought possible. I could explain that. More of that would be helpful mic please. So let me just do the traditional system. And i'm gonna give you the alternative system. The traditional system. Is you take out a thirty year mortgage you make the same payment for thirty years the first ten to fifteen years. It's pretty much all interest. You're making very very little progress on the principal. And then the latter years you pay off the principal. Meanwhile your money that you're earning sitting in a checking account earning zero. This is the existing system that works very well for the banks. They pay you nothing for your money and you pay them interest for thirty years and even better for the banks is when you re financial mortgage you start a new clock all over again and just pile on that much more interest okay. That's the traditional system that people think is working for them. It's actually working very very well for the banks the alternative system which caused mortgage optimization. Is you use a home. Equity line of credit or he lock is called. Which is a liquid line you can put money in. You can take it out. You could write checks on anytime you like and you keep your income in the home equity line of credit. He lacks a based on. What's called daily balance. How much do you owe today. So the money that's going in. There is pushing a balanced down. Meaning you owe less interest. Then you pay your bills out of the he lock but every day. You're making progress on your principle. As opposed to traditional system where your money sitting the checking account earning nothing and you make almost no progress could many many years and the traditional mortgage system the end result of this depending on your cash flow is you can pay off a thirty year mortgage in about five six seven years On your existing level of income is a free website. People can find out more about how this works which is called truth in equity dot com. And they model it for you and show you exactly how to do this and literally. I just saved your listeners. Twenty five years off their mortgage and tens of thousands of dollars in needless interest. This is something you'll never hear about from the banks because they have no interest in telling you about that whatsoever. This almost seems too easy. Maybe we should go through a quick real quick example. By the way i'm speaking with jordan goodman than the name of his book is master. Your debt different future starts with the u. s. by go. Daddy does more to help you find name. You can create cell and get found online so any small business could be a driving force to create change or built an empire. We know all ideas are cutting it anymore. So call them for a new generation thinking your way of thinking so whatever you have in mind that will make a different future find everything you need to get started go daddy dot com because the future isn't decided yet up to us to make it happen star different at go daddy. 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The program has helped mason dramatically by creating the best conditions for him to thrive even during the pandemic to help walgreens support even more kids like mason donate today at checkout or at walgreens dot com slash red nose day so take us through a quick example of how this method works of paying off your mortgage. I think that'll help. So let's have a house worth three hundred thousand and you get a first mortgage at two hundred thousand okay. And it's at a three percent interest rate a good interest rate the traditional system. You pay the same thing and over thirty years you pay off that two hundred thousand mortgage so using the system you would get a home equity line of credit for say fifty thousand. You got plenty of room there. You would then write a check on that home equity line of credit for fifty thousand towards the first so now you one hundred and fifty on the first and fifty on the he lock. Use this technique. You keep your income in the he lock An day you're making progress after whatever say nine months or a year you pay that. He'll walk off fifty thousand completely. Then you do it again. You had another fifty thousand dollar check towards the first so now on the first it went from one hundred and fifty to one hundred. You pay off the helix over the next year. Okay and then you do it twice more. After four years. you're. I is paid off and the fifth year. You've paid off your lock and you are now mortgage free. That's an example of how it works but you see every day you're making progress on the principle because the money that you're earning is going into pushing principal down instead of the traditional system where it sitting in the checking account. Earning nothing few while the bank is earning money off your money. Think of a couple. That's thirty five. Just got their first home. Mortgage is paid off by age forty instead of sixty five. I think they would have a positive impact on their life. Conventional advice has been from many money. People is to leave your mortgage alone especially if you have a really low interest rate because you'll do better in the stock market than paying off your mortgage. Well that sounds good but you complaining two different things. There's one thing that certain and one thing that's uncertain what's certain is what your mortgages and how many years you don't pay off. What's uncertain as you return to the stock market. So yes we've had a bull market for quite a few years and let's hope it goes on forever but the stock market can go down to so you don't want to count on the stock market going up forever and getting positive returns whereas you know for sure using a strategy like this you can pay your mortgage off in five or six years and then you have all your cash flow that you can be investing in stocks. I'm not saying do one or the other. But if you use this technique and have most eater cashflow pushing mortgage down having becoming mortgage. Free is a great thing just as being credit card free and student loan free. I'm big on getting out of debt as fast as possible because then frees you up the rest of your cash flow can be invested for your future. One of the things that's always bothered me doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the banks charge an awful lot of money to borrow like on credit cards and other kinds of loans. But they sure. Don't pay very much when you put your money in there to sit in a savings account. That's why banks makes so much about it. That's why the banks of all the big buildings downtown is they're charging interest on mortgages on student loans on carlin's on credit cards and they just at their cost of funds pretty much zero and they pay nothing on savings accounts and then when interest rates go up. You've been noticing lately. Interest rates have gone up the long-term treasury which year ago is maybe point. Five is now one and a half or something like that. Well interest rates go up. They charge more but they don't pay more right. It's have gone up with still not paying anything. I'm savings accounts or money. Market funds or cd's basically do you differentiate and have a preference between banks and credit unions. Yes credit unions in many cases. They're nonprofit they tend to pay high interest rates on savings not higher but at least somewhat higher and they tend to charge lower interest rates on loans because they are owned by their members. They don't have the profit motive the way a shareholder owned bank. Would i actually have several resources. In the resource section of money dot com that our credit unions. There's one called consumers credit union. Which is currently paying about four percents on savings for example. That's a lot more than you're going to get from any commercial bank in the country four percent. That's pretty good percent correct and the other kind of bank you might want to take a look at our online banks that again do not have the expense of brick and mortar. And so on where. Because i don't have all that brick and mortar expense. They pass it on to you in the form of higher savings rates and lower more lower loan rates. It does seem though that that as as much as there are strategies and tactics to do this a lot of this is is more fundamental in terms of the way people think about money that that yeah you can do these little tricks in. But if you don't really get a handle on the big picture you're never gonna get anywhere. Well that's right and people are not being trained. I mean i'm very big on personal financial awareness literacy. It's getting somewhat better. I think there are currently seventeen states. That requires some kind of course in personal finance before we graduate from high school which is good could be better but at least it's something a colleges tend not to teach personal finance very much all. I've always said a small amount of effort and knowledge about personal. Finance has a huge payoff. And what you wanna do is create the right habits personal finances. Not an incident. It's a moment it's not a one time thing. It's an ongoing learning process. And the more time you spend earn learning about these things and implementing strategies the better. You're going to be so people doing really really well in society today. They've learned about these things. They've maximized they mortgages. They have investments working for them. They're doing great and then there's lots of people have not learned about these things. They're struggling with student. Loan debt They can't get a down payment to a house. And in many cases just knowledge that makes the difference between struggling and thriving. I've heard people say it's interesting to me that you know when you're young you say well you know. I got plenty of time to get this figured out right now. I want to enjoy my life and and you know. I'll make more money later and straighten this all out and then when when it's later people go well. It's too late you know. There's nothing i can do now. I don't there's not enough time left to fix this. Well you have to be where we are at that moment. When you starting out a job you have a fantastic advantage. Which is time. I'd rather have more time than more money. Because if you start young in your mid twenties and you set up an automatic savings program certainly four one k. At work but also like an automatic savings program at a mutual fund. Or something like that to have that compounding for many many years is going to end up being a lot more than if you start later in your late thirties or forties even with more money and have less time for that might have compound. People often underestimate the value of time and compounding money which over a long period of time really really does add up. What else do you find that people just. They just knew this that that would help much. But i think the power of compounding is certainly something a lot of people don't really appreciate and having it be a habit not an accident. I put it so setup automatic investments systems we talked about an automatic system for paying your mortgage off faster. The more automated. You can make these things the more likely. They aren't a happen. Otherwise if you wait till the end of the month to do something somehow you forget you into the next month and it never never happens So automate good habits as much as possible. Both saving investing paying down debt An investing in yourself in including learning. I mean this is what i've done for many many years. My that's what my website is all about. Money dot com is helping people learn about all these things i've got about one hundred and fifty different resources in about twenty different categories to help people get out of debt get better health insurance save on travel cars investing mortgages. I mean these areas. I've been dealing with for a long time in every area. There's something you can do probably better than doing today. Well i that automatic thing to me is like magic because it's amazing if you never see the money if it goes somewhere else i you don't miss it but if you have it it's very hard to to take the time to say. Okay now i'm going to put this in in a savings account or in somewhere else. Where i'm not gonna touch if you never touch it. You don't miss it. This is why they say pay yourself first. Grandmother would tell you pay yourself ten percent whatever it is off the top you'll never notice it but set it up. I mean you can set up with the mutual fund saying index mutual fund. Where you put in one hundred dollars or two hundred dollars or whatever. It may be automatically month into a no load fund with no commissions whatsoever and it just keeps compounding. Certainly that's one of the advantages of a 401k. Or four three be at work is it comes out pre-tax you never even see it. It goes in there. You invested it's growing tax deferred for many years. Probably the best thing out there of anything. Mike is the roth. Ira you can put it up to seven thousand dollars into a roth ira where it grows tax for you putting after tax dollars but it grows tax free forever when you take it out. No matter how much it's grown it is there no taxes on it whatsoever So that's something you should certainly maximize you don't get a tax deduction of front by metro had grow tax free them got a small tax deduction up for deductible. Ira well this is great. I mean i. I don't think there's anybody who hasn't had some bumps along the way on the road of life or wish that they had done something differently than they did with their money. And i think your advice is really helpful. Jordan goodman has been my guest. He's a personal finance expert and the author of several books. His latest is called the master. Your debt there's a link to his book at amazon in the show notes and he mentioned a couple of websites truth inequity dot com and his His website money answers dot com. And i will put both of those websites in the show notes as well. Thanks jordan. all right thank you might it. If you are the hiring expert for your company you have a hard job. 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And since you do it all the time this speaking listening you probably don't think a lot about how you do it and since you've been doing all your life you probably figure you're pretty good at it and maybe you are and maybe you could be better. One of the world's leading experts on communication and sound is julian treasure. He has some great. Ted talks available if you want to see them. And he also gives workshops on the subject. He's author of a book called how to be heard secrets for powerful speaking and learning. And after you hear what he has to say. I'm pretty sure you will be a better speaker and a better listener. I julian welcome. Thank you mike. It's a pleasure to be here. This as you might imagine is a topic of interest to me. Because i make my living talking and listening. It's what i do on this podcast. Why are you so interested in it. Well it came about from being interested in sound originally. I got to ted talk in two thousand and nine about the effects of sound Which is what you know. I do for a living which audio branding for companies. But then. I got very fascinated. By the fact that companies make a lot of noise of sound largely unconsciously but of course companies are just groups of people and it all comes about fundamentally because most people aren't very good at listening. That's what i realized you know. We teach reading and writing in schools. We do not teach speaking much a tool and listening. Hardly ever it's assignment skill. Most people confuse it with hearing very different things so that was really the realization. That's what got me on the track. And then i did more. Ted talks about speaking listening and they became very popular. And i wrote a book. And that's that's really the focus came about when you look at people who speak well and people who don't speak. Well what's the difference. What is it that people who speak. Well do that people who don't speak well don't do. I think a lot of people speak well understand the couple of things. Firstly that speaking this thing Intimately related. it's not a straight line. It's not simple. it's not just. I speak you. Listen because the way you listen affects the way. I speak and the way i speak affects the way you listen. So there's a kind of dynamic secure relationship going on there so we need to be thinking about listening. When we're speaking. The best speakers are also good listeners. I think and they're very conscious. Also that the always speaking into a listening now. That's something that most people don't think about. Everybody listens in a different way. Every human being has a unique way of listening and it changes over time. I mean you probably spoken on stages where you get the graveyard slot. Just after lunch was very different. Speed listening that you're speaking into when people are a bit slow and will the blood set. They got then first thing in the morning or last thing in the evening in. You have to ask the question. What's the listing. I'm speaking into. So i think that is probably the biggest single different shades. It's people who great speaking understand. That listening being conscious of listening is really important. You talk about in your ted talk. Some of the things that people do when they speak. That really hurt their message. You even you even mention your mother but there are a lot of things. I hear them. Because i talked to people and i notice how people speak things that dilute their message. Make them sound like they don't really know what they're talking about or they don't sound very enthusiastic about their subject and that make it hard to listen to your heart. Humorously call them. The seven deadly sins of speaking gossip condemnation negatively complaining. Excuses exaggeration and dogmatism. We see an awful lot of these things around us in the world today. I mean you mentioned my mother that was in relation to negatively because sadly in the last years of her life she did become very negative and goodness it so wearing. Isn't it to be around somebody who's entirely negative where you say sons ato. It'll be raining later. Oh you know the the story told absolutely true story is. I took a paper inter she. She was in hospital. She told her arm. And i said except for the first today. And she said i know. Isn't it dreadful will dreadful. What what hope is there. Fortunately you that was the filter. She saw the whole world through. Everything was dreadful. And you know when you're around somebody for whom everything is dreadful. It's very very difficult. So these these things which we can monitor a little buttons you know my whole message radius to become conscious conscious of what we're doing conscious of these habits. Which if they get out of control. I mean they're not bad. Wrong is not never do them but if they get excessive they do make us very hard to listen to. It's like being around somebody who's entirely matic. you know. People confuse opinions with facts. And that's fortunately becoming more and more true so we have a table thumping this dogmatism. This making other people wrong all the time. And it's concerning to me that you know that's a loss of listening which is really hurting the world and it's it's making the world a more dangerous place. I'm afraid let's talk about listening. Because i think people think they listen because they here so if i hear you i must be listening but really listening. Listening is is different than hearing so so talk. About what real good listening is well defined listening as making meaning from sound so you hear everything but when you listen to two things festival usa let certain things to pay attention to not. Not everything you hear your. Something's and then the second thing you do is ascribed meaning to them. Listening is not a capability. We treat it like that. You know we don't teach in schools. We expect kids just to pick up how to listen. It is a skill. it's a skill you can practice. It's a skill you can master. And it's a skill which when mastered gives huge advantages in life. And that mike i think is the biggest realization that i mean. Hopefully people listening to this might take away and you practice that skill by doing what well there are. Lots of exercise is that You know some of the might put into my third. Ta-talk incidentally people value speaking much more highly than listening. And it's interesting. Ted talk i gave listening has got around one fifth as many views as the ted talk i gave on speaking. So we're into sending much more than we are into receiving and we need to pay much more attention to this thing so there are exercises. I mean i can recommend the couple right now. Reacquainting yourself with silence is a very very good idea. silences something which we don't encounter that often and if you can't get silence which often is the case in the city you could try simply peace and quiet relatively quiet places. Nature is very lovely around. You've you can't get sinus but it's resets your ears it recalibrate s- the baseline for will sound. We don't get enough of it in our lives. So that's one way of practicing and a great thing to do if you all in any kind of built environment at home in the office even in the car i guess is savoring sound. That is like you would food. You're very conscious of put something bad in your mouth. You spit it out but without is we ignore sound so much. We kind of become numb doubt. Because there's so much noise around this time and it's really important to become sensitive to that again so you can do that by closing your eyes and having somebody walk you around your house so your office and just listen and go. Wow i never noticed that basel knocking sound before. It's really probably be narrating and asking the question. Is this the most productive and lovely sound. I could have in this room for what i want to do. Their so then it's into designing rooms and spaces with your ears as what is with your eyes. I find that. I'm more sensitive to sound than i used to be. An and i guess what i mean by that is iran. How irritating sounds irritate me. More and i you know i've noticed that i probably don't hear as well as i once used to. Well you and everybody else included. It's called the cocktail effect. Because i hearing does degrade as we get older. It falls off. We lose the high end quite a lot. You know sadly the biggest threat to hearing in the modern world is headphones. There are many many kids unfortunately ramming one hundred decibels of music into the is ours. And what they don't know. Is there flattening those tiny youthful cells those hassles in your is which allow you to perceive sound. Once they've been damaged enough times they give up the ghost and become deaf so huge problem. In the united states stiffness and it's going to get a lot worse sadly because of headphones. So you you mentioned that the a good way to to practice listening is to incorporate some silence into your life and all that but when you are actually lists listening to someone if someone is speaking to you what is it. You're supposed to be doing that. Makes you a good listener when you hear the words coming at you. It's about intention really so the most important thing in terms of listening to is to give them your full attention. Scott peck said you cannot truly listen to another human being do anything else. Same time and i agree with him completely with so used to partial listening phone listening at doing something else tapping away on a keyboard device in your no am listening to you. Know you're sending text. That's different so it is attention first of all and being conscious that you're doing something is the first part of that battle really talk about four cs of effective listening and consciousness. Is the first of those doing something here. I'm not simply you know. It's not a background activity The second one is compassion. Compassion is very important when you're listening attempting to understand. The other person is such a thing you know. Seeing seeing the people you meet opportunities to learn something that is such a transformative way to see people rather than being dismissive. When judging the book by the cover and thinking you know what they're gonna say and that kind of stuff. The third see is commitment. Which is a really necessary. That's the scott peck putting everything down. You know listen to this. I wonder when the last time is you absolutely. Stop doing everything and gave somebody the incredible gift of your full attention in the modern world where into multitasking. With time poor always things going on. You know they're huge corporations spending billions to get your attention away from the person you're with so why not try that after you. Listen to this podcast. Sit look at somebody listen to them. They'll be preparing what you're going to say next and speechwriting not listening. Actually give them full attention and you'll probably get the reaction. What are you doing. Because the so unused to that way of communicating and then the fourth see curiosity real russia's curiosity about what they can say what might learn what could lead those really good places to listen from and commitment is absolutely critical. Something interesting i've noticed. Is that when people speak. Sometimes they just speak without putting a lot of thought into what they're going to say. I i see this in podcasting. i've asked podcasters. Why are you doing a podcast. And sometimes it comes down to well. It's easier to talk than it would be say do a blog and to write everything out in edited as if talking doesn't require the preparation and the intention of making it interesting so people will like what they hear and find it interesting and engaging oh definitely and we're back again i think they're to the intention into what's the listening i'm speaking into. I will say. I train people on public speaking from time to time and i look the important thing is it's not about you and i'm sure that's what you feel when you're doing this very successful. Podcast mike is not about mike. It's about what can you give the very title of your book. Something you should know about the audience and the focus is on them and the gift giving to them. Then you're in the right place to start with really aren't you. It also seems though. That and i know a lot of people. I'm sure you talk to people who don't really give a thought to making it interesting that you can tell me things in a really boring way or you could tell me things in a really interesting way and listening to you for example i mean you ana i don't think i've heard you Since we've been talking a that's not true for most people the debts factions. I just said There are people who who don't think about what they're gonna say until they say it. It tends not to be very interesting and people are bored by it and yet it doesn't take a lot of thought to put something together in your head. That is interesting or more interesting. Because you've edited things out or you've focused it to the person you're actually talking to definitely iming and a lot of it's about fear it's fitting space and One of the reasons that i recommend reacquainting with silence is because that's a great thing to do if you're speaking to an individual or you're on stage in front of a thousand people when you're on a stage or in the conversation it's quite okay to pause to slow down to gather your thoughts you don't have to fill it to the biggest sin that i see. People who particularly people get nervous committing on stages is gambling is thinking. They've got to fill every second with lots of words. It's not necessary. So i wouldn't do it here on the radio program podcast because if you stop for twenty or thirty seconds that's der and people think they've lost the program and they go and do something else but if you're standing on a stage i mean i do this a used to do this quite often when we used to stand on stages i could stop for twenty or thirty seconds quite happily. Just stand there and nothing's happening and the audience is probably thinking what might have for lunch and they feel quite comfortable because i am obviously not looking uncomfortable. You know i'm not sweating and shaking and obviously lost my way and we have a moment and when you get comfortable with silence like that you can slow down you can enjoy the pauses and you do not have to fill them up with filler words. So i think that's really where that's come from. Over the years. I've become more comfortable with speaking at my pace without having to gamble and fit every took the time with words which makes it more interesting because it has peaks and valleys and pauses. And it's the way it draws people in when you talk that way as opposed to And this is another thing. I find that. I'll talk to people before i interview them on this podcast and they speak in a very normal way and then as soon as we start they get very. What's the word hesitant like. They're afraid maybe they're being fact checked by somebody that they per parse out every word and there's a of ause that weren't there before him there. I guess it's just self consciousness that now that we're actually doing this now. I have to be really careful what i say. And it screws it up. Breathing is a really good way to counteract not for anybody who has these things happen and isn't used to the situation. They put in a big deep breasts. Voice goes a little bit like this when you say nice. Big deep breaths because voices only breath. It's the fuel feel voice voices all it requires really and then there's a practice helps you go on stage at carnegie hall to play a piece if you've never played the piano before but it's amazing to me how many people will stand up on a stage in front of people or give giver webinar in front of people these days more likely without having practiced using the tools without having practiced delivering the thing. Really well the us to yourself. Surely i think what you just said. My was absolutely on the money about variation whether it's pros at the you know the sing song of speech pace valeo you to vary. Things is what creates the interest. Otherwise it's like a billiard ball. It's a featureless saying and people get into repetitive cadences. Don't they you often hear that in people who are not very good at public speaking where everything goes like this and if everything i said went like this every single sentence was you know eventually i would hypnotize you. And you'd be in some sort of comatose condition and go to sleep so variation is the heart of engaging people's attention. You're absolutely right. Well as i said this is a topic. That's particularly interesting to me. But i think it's interesting to everybody because how we speak and how we listen our communication skills. It's part of how we navigate through the world. And i think your advice is really helpful. Julian treasure has been my guest. He's got some great ted talks. I think you'll enjoy in. I'll put links to him in the show notes and he is author of the book how to be heard secrets for powerful speaking and listening. And there's a link to his book amazon in the show notes. thanks julian. well thank you mike. It's been absolute pleasure talking to you the next time you go to your grocery store. You'll notice that there aren't any windows in there except the ones in the front why well. It's a component of retail shopping psychology retailers. Try to create an environment where people feel comfortable spending time and money in the case of windows while having no windows creates this sense of suspended. Time where. Shoppers won't notice inclement weather or that. It's getting dark outside. So they stay longer and the longer they shop the more they spend there are some practical considerations to large windows letting in sunlight can cause fading on packages which make them seem old in warranty consumers. Also swapping out valuable wall. Space for windows would reduce the number of displays in products available to shoppers. And that's why there are no windows and that is something you should know. We are getting close to five thousand ratings and reviews on apple podcasts. I'd really like to hit that number. And you can help. Go to apple podcasts. And leave us a rating and review and a five star. One is preferable. I'm mike her brother. Thanks for listening today to something you should know.

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How to Avoid Investment Fraud

Money For the Rest of Us

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How to Avoid Investment Fraud

"Walk on the money for the rest of us. This is a personal finance show on money. How it works? How to invest it? And how to live without boring about it. I mean host David Stein today upset to forty eight it's titled how to avoid investment flawed. Two thousand an ex girlfriend of mine came to visit the pill, and I she drove a red dodge viper that she said she borrowed from a mutual acquaintance of ours that I hadn't seen also in fifteen years. She said it was one of five cars that he owned and he lived in this huge house, and he was doing really well investing. I thought it was odd. Because last I had heard this gentleman was selling and installing home theatre equipment. But now he was managing money. And was to really really well now, I was also an investment advisor at the time. I didn't own five cars. And so it struck me as odd then in two thousand three the SEC filed an administrative proceeding against this individual stating that. He had acted as an unregistered broker dealer in connection with offering securities as part of a fraudulent scheme. He had raised thirty five million dollars in his theories of offerings and represented that he could and had traded in a successful options strategy, then in two thousand five he was sentenced he pled guilty. They lost five million dollars of their clients money as part of that plea. He acknowledged that he had used the money in purchasing automobiles paying for personal living expenses and gambling. He was sentenced to ninety months in prison. I was shocked to discover this. And then about eight years later another incident this time when we were living in Idaho. This time, I didn't know the individual. But I knew individuals who had been swindled by unregistered as an investment advisor. Or broker had an investment scheme that effectively was upon scheme and took millions from individuals had promised twenty to twenty five percent returns. Cluding one of the victims was local cart dealership owner who have put millions with him this episode. We're going to look at how to avoid investment fraud. The first thing to do. When somebody presents you with an investment opportunity both of these fraud situations the individual or their firm was not registered in the United States in order to share investment advice or to provide to invest somebody's assets to provide advice or to sell securities you need to be registered registered either. As an investment adviser with the security and Exchange Commission or with the local state authorities. Or if it's a broker they're registered with FINRA whenever there's an individual. And you want to see what their investment background is? I do this all the time to look up different investment advisors. You can go to advisor, info dot SEC dot gov. The investment advisor search or you can go to broker check dot FINRA dot org, and there you can see if it's an investment advisor, you'll be able to download their what's known as their av part two which is a brochure all investment advisers are supposed to have a required to have a brochure that describes their business their investment process and details about the firm and the individuals if they're broker you can find out they have any type of administrative procedures against him or customer complaints. And that's important to understand who we are potentially investing with or taking advice from before we look at what else to consider to protect yourself from investment fraud. Let me pause and share some words from one of this week sponsors when it's time to make a higher for your small business naturally. You want to find the best person for the job? I'd sorry. That person is on linked in Lincoln jobs makes it easy to get matched. 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The first step then to avoid financial fraud or investment fraud is to understand who the individual is even if they're somebody a friend or a family member understand have they gone through the steps to make sure that they are registered with the proper authorities. The next thing to consider too devoid investment fraud is what are the parties promising? Do you understand the investment product the process? What are they doing? How are they making money? What is generating the returns and are there conflicts of interest in December twenty seventeen SEC crackdown on another Pontius scheme. This was perpetrated by Robert H zero and a group of unregistered investment companies called Woodbridge group of companies they were formerly headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida, and they swindled defrauded eighty four hundred investors most of whom were. Elderly. What was interesting is. They weren't promising twenty to twenty five percent returns. But they said they were doing is. They were issuing loans that were secured by third party commercial real estate hard money loans. Short-term charging eleven to fifteen percent. And then in turn they were promising to pay their investors five to ten percent. I have to admit this one might have been hard to figure out some of the things that Woodbridge pointed out is that clients keep coming back. They said over a ninety percent national renewal rate. Now one reason Woodbridge could point out the ninety percent. Renewal rate is very difficult to get your money out. And that's because it was a Ponzi scheme. They were using money from new flows coming in to pay out old investors, and ultimately that scheme fell apart, the SEC complaints mentioned that these securities were unregistered or that the companies were unregistered, and what we mean by registered is there are what are known as registered securities and registered investment companies is within the US other countries that have something similar, a registered investment company is a business that issue securities and invest in. Securities. Typically, it's done in a combing gold or collective fashion where they take in investor money. The money's co mingled, and then they invest the categories of investment companies in the US our mutual funds closed end funds, and what are known as unit investment trust. And there are sub categories within that which would include stock funds bond funds money market funds index funds and exchange traded funds. So those are registered investment companies. In addition there are what are known as registered securities, and this is registration under the securities act of nineteen thirty three a registration would include a definition with the company's businesses a description of of the security being offered for sale information about the management, financial statements. A common stock would example would be registered security. Not all securities have to be registered. There are private offerings to a limited number of individuals. And that's what these fraudulent securities weren't. So if a security is unregistered, we should be more wearing that doesn't mean, it's a bad investment. But because it is not registered. It's not offered by a registered investment company, or it's not a registered security. We should we should just be more wary because the disclosures aren't as great, and we might not have as much transparency because they're not required to file ongoing information about the investment offering in terms of what's going on with the underlying investments at center with the SEC or other regulators one of the interesting wrinkles in. This Woodbridge case is Jordan Goodman. He hosts the money answer show. It's actually a podcast and a radio show that Nash nationwide that I was on. On last year. He was charged by the SEC for the sensually promoting these unregistered Woodbridge securities on his show on other podcast, but not disclosing that he was getting a commission. He earned two point three million dollars in transaction base sales commissions in marketing fees from Woodbridge securities or affiliates associated with Woodbridge securities and Goodman didn't disclose that he was being compensated. Now, he says he didn't know this was a Ponzi scheme, and I believe him, but you have to look at our their conflicts who is suggesting a particular security on his show on a particular radio station KOA in two thousand fifteen Goodman mentioned that these products. Were very popular with KOA listeners and that they earn six percent annual interest. His quote was there's a way of getting six percent and not having to worry about capital loss. It's very safe. Now, I I've done direct lending like that that is secured by real estate. I wouldn't say it's very safe. There are definitely risk there. But this one might have been difficult to figure out, but you have to understand who who's promoting it. And then why in the fact that he didn't disclose that is just that's not right thing to do. And it got me thinking about you know, what am I disclose improperly? I try to I don't have any type of affiliate relationships with investment products. I'm not brand ambassador for any type of financial products. I do have an affiliate relationship with Amazon. If you happen to click on a book link on the website, I make about thirty. Dollars a month from Amazon, but the sponsors on the podcast are not affiliate there straight up straight fee. I strive to make sure I've used every product that I represent that the sponsor of the show, and if it's an investment related product. I if it's gotta be a my portfolio, I have have to use it in my own investing. I wanna have skin in the game. I do the same thing with money for the rest of us. Plus, I share my performance. I share what I'm doing. You can see what I'm holding. And I'm not recommending anything or lease putting it in. Let's say the model portfolios unless it's also in my investment portfolio. Now, I'm not a registered investment advisor either. So I'm not providing investment advice. I'm using what's known as the general education Glushkov, essentially, a newsletter type format, but. But it's important understand. Because as you there's podcast is out there. There are other services out there, and we have to understand how are they being compensated and are the disclosing that compensation speaking of sponsors, let me pause here. And share some words from this week. Sponsors sleep number is an example of a product that I bought with my own money and use and can say is a great bed the prone. I have been traveling recently and the other night, she just found this bed at the hotel so uncomfortable. She went out and slept on the couch. My sleep number's number fifty. We've had this bed for a couple of months now, and I sleep great. These sleep number beds, are smart they adjust based on your moves and automatically adjust to that. And they keep you sleeping comfortably all night. 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Advisers parley owes curious what competition was doing, but also to learn security regulations complicated, and we certainly had made mistakes at our firm just out of sheer ignorance one of the first brochures that we did marketing, brochures for a particular service our business had it has testimonials test. Omonia aren't allowed. If you're an investment advisor. I keep up the practice a periodically looking at SEC press releases and was surprised in December defined enforcement actions against two robo advisors. So not all enforcement actions are against regarding unregistered securities or firms sometimes it's it's registered firms with registered products. The enforcement action was against wealth front a Levin billion dollar robot. Visor eleven billion dollars of client assets under management the SEC determined that they made false statements regarding their tax loss harvesting strategy. This particular strategy or text us harvesting is a strategy of selling securities that are at a loss to take the capital laws for tax purposes, and then buying back a security that needs to be different can't be the same security, and it can't be very very similar, especially within the first thirty days. Otherwise it. Here's what's known as a wash sale just doesn't count. What they've found the SEC found that thirty one percent of the accounts that they denied that were enrolled in this strategy were actually wash sales the SEC essentially said that while front said they were monitoring these accounts. But in turns out that that they were triggering wash sales. They also found that wealth front improperly re tweeted prohibited. Client testimonials, this is sees words paid bloggers for client referrals without the required, disclosure and documentation and failed to maintain a compliance program. Reasonably designed to prevent violations of securities loss gets a little dicey. When it comes to testimony os and things like that. Sometimes we would get SEC audits at as an investment advisor. Sometimes you just make mistakes that was the case with this situation with wealth front, another robot visor is hedge -able it's much smaller. But. Eighty one million dollars. But they'd see found is hedge -able posted client performance of their clients. Compare them with two other robot advisors, but they cherry picked you only four percent of their client assets. And they were the better performing clients. And then they compare them to robo advisors and use performance from these robots sizes actually weren't Representative of the robo advisors trading models investment performance is very important in oftentimes in deciding whether to select an advisor or a product. And so you're not allowed to just cherry pick performance. You have to really the proper way to do. It is to follow. What are known as the Gipps standards g p s and you do a composite of your accounts, we spent a lot of time constructing these composites as investment advisers, and the the gold standard haven't verified by a third party have counting firm to make sure that the return calculation is correct in that they're doing the composite. It correctly. But when you're selecting and investment product adviser be very careful about the performance read the disclosures understand whether it's a hypothetical performance or it's alive track record. And if it's alive track record under read the disclosure regarding the composites to make sure that it's Representative of the investment strategy and see how many client assets are actually in that strategy. But that's what they were doing. Hedge avoid also says SEC's order also found that hedge will fail to maintain required documentation and failed to maintain a compliance program reasonably designed to prevent violations of the security laws clients, it takes time these firms have to put the time into doing that. So performance is another area to be very mindful of in selecting an investment advisor product and to avoid any type of fraud. A final area is fees to truly understand the fees. And there was an SEC enforcement. Action against Valley Forge asset management. They're now owned by Beebe and tee securities at the time when most of these violations occurred, they were not, but and their case what they did Valley Forge had an affiliated broker dealer. So they were an asset manager, but they also had a broker dealer and for some of their clients, they would direct trades to their own broker dealer in the earliest when I was in investment advisory. We also had a broker dealer, and sometimes we ran trades through that broker dealer to offset the client fee, we later stop doing that just because it's really really messy. But in this case Valley Forge was charging commissions four and a half times more than what clients would have paid. They use an outside broker dealer now Valley Forge said, they were they were offering additional services to do that. But it turns out they they really weren't. So clients are effectively paying four and a half times more than they should. If you have some type of adviser relationship, you should be receiving trade confirmations to be able to see how much is being charged for commission and make sure that it it's a an appropriate rate or with your with your broker relationship understand what you're paying understand what the overall advisory fees. There's another adviser Richard T diver. This was actual enforcement action against an individual. He was she rating officer at a particular investment firm, and he was overbilling clients a certain billing clients, and then taken the money paying him himself a higher salary. So he overbuilt three hundred investment advisory clients by about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in order to inflate his salary. So understand what the fees are. And then verify I mean, that's the key here is to verify that it's correct and stepping back then sometimes it's difficult to identify fraud. Oftentimes, it is. Which is why we wanna make sure that we don't put too much money in particular strategy, particularly if it's if it's unregistered if it's some type of private strategy. We need to understand who we are investing with we need to search SEC's advisor platform, search finres brokerage check to make sure you know, who are these individuals. What's there background has there been enforcement actions against them? We needed one hundred and what the investment strategy is to we understand the strategy. Can we see the holdings? Do we know? What's what the holdings are is the particular security registered with the SEC? We need to study the offering documents in great detail to understand what the risks are most strategies should have lengthy disclosures in terms of the risk. We need to understand the performance. Is it verified has it been audited? Is it Representative of the strategy had there been losses sometimes with these Ponte's games? They show performance in. It's so predictable. Most investment advisers. There's definite there's going to be some volatility in terms of return. So does returns look reasonable. And is the particular strategy manager over promising we need to look at the fees understand what the fees are verify. Once we hire them that fees are correct. And finally never invest an amount that you would be harmed. If it turns out to be a Ponzi scheme. Puts a registered investment company or registered security. It's unlikely to be a Ponzi scheme where it gets becomes an issue is if it's some type of private vehicle, whether they call themselves a hedge fund investment partnership or something private that's unregistered where they're just investment is valuable just a few individuals or dozens could be hundreds. But that's where you need to be the most wary because that's where there's the most exposure. Now, most are not Ponzi schemes most are just doing their best trying to manage money, but we need to mitigate that risk by making sure that in the case of this Woodbridge there, there were investors there that just to get that six percent return in for a while they were getting it, but they put way too much in their say sold other assets for this predictability of the six percent return, not really understanding that hard asset lending if if the actually had done that there's still risk there. That's not something you wanna put most of your assets in. So we need to be wary understand what we're investing in be able to explain what that is in a way that we can understand and keep an eye out. That's two forty eight show Notre money for the rest of us dot com. Twirl have links to the different enforcement actions that I've talked about with the SEC where there please sign it from my free insider's guide and on Email those links to each week along with some other essay a writing that. I do only to that E mail is some other things that might be thinking about that they want to share with you some of the best writing do each week, and that's money for the rest of us dot com. Everything I've shared with you in this episode Finn for general education. I'm not a registered investment advisor. So I don't provide investment advice. I just provide general education money investing and the economy have a great week.

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Pyar Mujhe Meri Kalam Se. Vikas Sahu. IINK Podcasts. Episode 47

IINK Podcasts HI

02:45 min | 6 months ago

Pyar Mujhe Meri Kalam Se. Vikas Sahu. IINK Podcasts. Episode 47

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Chris May  SLU Athletic Director

Scoops with Danny Mac

14:00 min | 1 year ago

Chris May SLU Athletic Director

"Show you one big time college basketball in Saint Louis. Well you got it because Dayton is coming to town on Friday night to take on the billions billions billiton's are playing outstanding basketball right now and certainly they have a great shot to get into the NC Double A. Tournament. Coming up you'll hear from Chris may but on Friday. It's a blizzard. Everything will be in white. It'll be sold out. It'll be a atmosphere that is second to none in college. Basketball and the best way to get tickets is at Slu. BILLITON'S DOT com. There's only a handful that are left. Yesterday I had the chance to visit with Travis for the head coach of the bills and he talked about Dayton atop hop fifteen team coming to the gateway city. They're just very very talented. Obviously a high level office averaging eighty four points game And they're very strong defensively. They're a final four type candidate when you start looking at their pieces They've got a lottery picks Ob it'll be topping on everybody's draft board is top ten top five and some deservedly so I could go on and on about The things I'm thinking of with this team. They're legit Final four type candidates because of all the weapons they had. PODCAST is on the website. SCOOPS WITH DANNY MAC DOT COM. Tom You can hear from Travis Ford and again Chris may coming up get your tickets at Slu. Billiton's DOT COM handful left for Friday night at six Knicks at shape. It's arena while we just heard from Travis Ford talking about Dayton the challenge that is presented for the bills on Friday. It's a Bilican Blizzard on Friday. Tickets are going very very quickly so as Travis said yesterday get those tickets right now in this one he really really means because this will sell out it'll be a great atmosphere. Maybe the biggest crowd ever chief. It's arena on Friday night. We have the chance to visit with the athletic director at Saint Louis University. And that's Chris May. Hey Chris congratulations on the start of men's basketball and it's been a great start should be an incredible atmosphere on Friday just in a general sense. Dance How do you feel about What's happening right now with the program and just how well your your team is playing? Well you gotta just be unbelievably proud and honor to work with these guys and Travis Ford and his staff and our student athletes around him. They're just a great group young people that really enjoy being taint Louis University. They enjoy playing together playing for each other. And they're having a Lotta success. I I hope You know that everybody saw was able to watch. Watch a little bit of the Richmond game the other night because you go on the road against a really really talented Richmond team and Our team just got after it. And so Really super excited about this week and proud of Travis and the guys and and we talk all the time you put a lot of time and effort into what we do. You're helping steen Athletes get a great education in Slough. You're helping them compete. You're helping them build community and you do all this work to get to compete in these big time games and It's GonNa be a great week for Saint Louis. It's a great week for Saint. Louis University were huge crowd. That's coming selling tickets. We're going to run out at tickets probably by Thursday and It's going to be an electric night in shape. It's arena for sure we'll get to that in just a moment. Take me back to when you hired. Travis Ford why was he the right right guy at that point in time to come to Slough for him and for the university. Well Danny I think it was just a perfect timing for both of us We we were in the market looking for somebody that could really light the match. We knew we had a lot of pieces here in Saint Louis. It's unbelievable sports town. It's a great re fertile recruiting area. But from the minute we really started talking with Travis. We were engaged with the person who so passionate about what college basketball and from the first minute we spoke. He talked about recruiting Saint Louis. and He's been to Saint Louis many times he grew up three hours from here he He knew what this market could be. And I think His his passion his excitement his understanding of what Saint Louis can mean and can be in college basketball and we can really put ourselves on the national map for the minute we started talking. We're like here's a person who really is in line with what our objectives and our values are and so and from the first conversation he said we gotta get Jordan Goodman. Yeah and started away. Hey Yeah it's a good start and he circled Jordan Goodwin and really hours his top priority from the start and God bless Jordan came and and he has grown own immensely unbelievable to watch this young person grow and and he is leading a team right now he is leading team and doing just a fantastic job bob and helping the young players along and helping the older guys really POLA team together and I. I really enjoy watching as Jordan helps. His team leads. This team. Works with Travis to Have a step of success. It's really it's gratifying to watch and be part of. He's the player of the week and rightfully Lee. So He's averaging a double double. You mentioned that you're watching him grow. What what have you seen from Jordan? Goodwin from your seat as the ad at Slough and seeing seeing him turn into this young man that is becoming. I think Chris I don't think it's far fetched to say he's an all American candidate Jordan to watch him grow his leadership he he was always. I was fortunate I got to watch him. Play in high school and He was leading them but what he's doing now to really bring bring everybody together in the heat of the moment. I can count numerous over in Kansas City when we play Kansas State. There was a heat of the moment in that game where he brought everybody together. There's there's Times as I'm sure Travis has talked about that both in practice he brings the energy income gametime when when he goes and attacks the offensive boards how he brings the passion and the excitement for playing college basketball. It it is We haven't seen anybody like that since George Air jet. Who was the player of the year and an all American and It's really fun to watch Jordan. Because he is doing a great job and and really leading this team and by first by example and then by really connecting with his teammates. He he so cares about his teammates and cares about winning and he's doing an unbelievable job of leading the way. It was such an incredible run last year to get into the NC Double A. Tournament. And then you get in and you you have the HOOPLA and the fanfare and the excitement of it and your alumni fired up and the fans here are fired up and then it goes into summer new move into a new season But from from your perspective Chris when you're trying to get the best players good kids character. Kids get your team into the the field. What it what does it do? What's the trickle down down effect for a university when you make it to the NC Double A. Tournament? Well Dan. It's funny. Bring that up. We had a meeting just yesterday. We had a all coaches meeting and being with all their head coaches and we talk just about that is as this. Men's basketball team makes. Its run do we take advantage of it. You Know Darin Hendrickson. Well Well Darren. Aaron uses it for recruiting or soccer coaches uses for recruiting. It takes all it takes everything up and it brings the excitement and brings some juice to this community and our university and We are in this unbelievably positive position. Where we've got from the chairman of the Board board chairman Conran to Dr Castillo our president Our trustees and our university leadership everybody in line with how do we take advantage of this college basketball team that really this community is rallying around. So there's a lot of positives that this basketball team is helping our department All of our teams and the university and so it It helps all of us. No question about it. And that's why it's so critical that we We do everything we can to to to fill the arena and and bring the energy and passion that comes with winning college basketball because it goes hand in hand with helping the young guys make that extra shot getting that extra rebound as Travis. I'm sure talks with you about but it's It all is. This cohesive unit working together and when that happens it it helps everybody in the university and certainly with our athletic department outside of of the game on Friday against date. And we'll get into that in a moment but with the not playing so well off to a good start in conference player seeing an uptick in ticket. Sales interest. Guys like me asking you for interviews that kind of thing across the board. It's great it couldn't be better and again we spend a lot of time and energy trying to get to this moment right and so now we want to have more of these moments. So it's how how do we deliver for everybody that's connected. We've we've got such a great loyal fan base. That is their game in a game out. Now bring inference. I heard I heard from your old friend. WATE hers Come into the game off by you. Get to hear from all these unbelievable Saint Louis community leaders and icons that everybody's he's starting to rally around this billick basketball team and You have you have The Blues come into Games. You got all different kinds of community leaders starting to really participate and really be part of it. And and that's that's what brings the excitement. Everybody's gotTa bouncing their stuff around here this week. You know from from the blizzard to the white t shirts everybody to Dayton being a big big time the top fifteen team coming in here. There's a lot of anticipation and excitement but In this community right now as you look at the a ten Chris In the early season was you know three maybe four teams could get in. Maybe not now this year so how. How important is this particular game in terms of you? Look for signature wins. How important is is this game just from XS and os not the crowd? We'll get into that and tickets but just from looking at it from a broad view of how important this game is for Slough to get this win. This is a big one. Danny this They're all big at the end end of the day You've got to have X. amount of wins but you've also got to have quad one wins in this As going to Richmond was a big time win on the road. When you get a top fifteen team coming to your house Those are those games. Put you in position and The goal is always to get in the NCAA tournament and then go make a run and so this is This is a big game. No question about it But they're all you gotta win. You GotTa win a bunch of Games Games. You GotTa Get In our league you gotta you gotta get that double by get into the Friday. Get into Friday in the tournament Thursday at least single by I but if not a double by then you gotTa win a game or two to get yourself in position for not large Invitation into the into the big dance so this everybody knows what's at stake stake. It's a big big game for us But there's a lot of big games you know you got. VCU coming in. Here we go to Dayton We go to Rhode Island. We've got some big time games in trouble is in the ten any game. You can get bit if you don't play well You can. That's still a little bit of the challenge about Atlantic ten is that Anybody can get you So you've got to be on you can't take many days off or else you'll get bit and you what you really don't want if you don't want the signature losses. The signature wins are super important. As is you don't want signature losses and we'll wrap it up with this Howard ticket sales right now it's Again for fans don't know Dayton as you mentioned top fifteen team in the country. It's a six o'clock start which is awesome on a Friday night. So that's a great way to get your your weekend going so ticket sales right now and best way to get tickets because it will sell out. It will be so fans can go on slew Billiton's Dot Com and just order them online. There's under eight hundred tickets left right now. So we'RE GONNA we're we're going to run out in the next forty eight hours so There that they can buy tickets right. Now get to shape its arena. Come around five. o'clock have an extra anheuser Bush products before the game. D Did all the traffic and it is going to be an electric atmosphere here in shape on Friday night. When you sit in your seat can you relax on Friday tonight or you just kind of take in the atmosphere and say Yep this is why we you know? This is what we were trying to do There isn't a lot of relaxing dear section in one or three row M. C. One. Yeah not a lot of you know all my pals Jerry comedy sits next to me. You know Jerry Attorney in town. Jerry's like Chris everything calm. Yeah absolutely not Jerry though. Not Not not right now. They buy ten or eleven o'clock at night. At least you're honest about it. I mean you know I am the absolutely absolutely but that's why we do it. It's fun it's There's a lot of energy and there's so many people that really care about Bilican basketball. That's the exciting thing. So you you you spend a lot of time just trying to make sure. It's is perfect of experiences. Everybody can have and that's what we're working hard at and it's going to be a great day. It's going to be a great day college basketball and we look forward to seeing many many billiton's out to enjoy it slew Billy Kim's Dot Com Slough Billiton's dot com. Best Way to get your tickets. Hey Chris thanks so much and doc go get him on. Friday should be a lot of fun. Thanks Dante we'll see go bills.

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3.15.19 Well-known money advice guru ran ponzi scheme; Clark Stinks

Clark Howard Show

34:49 min | 2 years ago

3.15.19 Well-known money advice guru ran ponzi scheme; Clark Stinks

"I'm so glad you're here with us on the car Howard show. You get empowerment through knowledge. So you can save more and spend less and don't let anyone ever rip you off you feel like I've given you a bum. Steer. Will you get to hear what other people have felt later this show and yet to hear Clark stinks? Where people let you know where they feel that I have failed in my job. Actually, I look at it. As a great way for me to earn a passing grade from you as I learned from you now there are so many times someone will say to me they love what they hear from in. They my show. They have my podcast the website. They love seeing me on TV, whatever. And I do exactly what you say. And I like cringe in and instead of saying thank you say, well, you know, it's just my opinion. And you should always learn as much as you can because my opinion could be wrong. I take that very much. Much to heart that that it is just my opinion. I've done this for a long time. And I may have a decent advice on many things. But others I may be missing something. And so don't just take what I say and think well, that's what I should do. But it's a natural tendency when you learn to trust someone, and there's a guy who I've known forever that pains me to talk about this. But he's a name that particularly people that are older might remember very well, Jordan Goodman longtime author used to be with money magazine did radio TV and well after all those years of building up trust with people and all the rest, he got in trouble for running upon see scheme. And he had built up such a reservoir in goodwill and trust with people that people just bought in to what he started talking about on the air, and he made millions of dollars steering people in to a Ponzi scheme. That you may or may not have heard on the radio or elsewhere, Woodbridge. And he after he got in trouble with the law. He's paid back money paid fines, and he's banned forever. From the securities industry. He is not going to prison. But this is a guy I've known a guy who who wrote very eloquently and simply about strategies about how how to handle money, but then he kind of lost his way and started looking for the big score putting people into things that were not, okay. And he they were many different ventures. He was involved in in sleazy, finance, and it just absolutely upset me. So much. This is a guy who's been at this just a little longer than I have doing this. And the reason I'm talking about this is I said, you just couple minutes ago that I cringe when somebody says, well, you said it, so I'm gonna do it. I want you to take guidance from me, maybe, but I want you to know you never know when someone you're trusting is maybe going to pull a fast one. And I know if you know me the odds of that ever happening with me is close to zero as it could be. But this is not specifically about me. It's about anybody. Who's you hear pitching something on radio? And I think about a lot of the stuff I see here on radio see on TV see on the web where people who are very eloquent or very chatty or very friendly are pitching things that are not necessarily a good thing for you. But because they build up this familiarity with you in this trust in this comfort that you're more likely to suspend normal precaution normal caution. And actually thoroughly checking out what it is. They're pitching. So often what's consistent is that people are saying as so often people are worried with their money that their money is at risk or they're trying to grow their money and the pitches repeatedly, including some of the Jordan Goodman stuff, we're about how you could earn money above market rates without risk anytime. Somebody is giving you a song and dance about how you're going to earn above market, but eliminate the risk equation. That's when you know to be very very wary. I think about that guy made off who ripped off some of the most sophisticated and wealthy people in the United States for billions and billions and billions of dollars just because his he became familiar with them through the rich people circuit of country clubs and things like that. Private jet lounges. And all that that people were like oh. Made off so genius. And he's giving me a chance to be in his investments. I mean, how would I not do that? What did you really know about what you know about what he was investing. In was always a big mystery this dark pool that he was investing it, so please remember this forever. You can get information from somebody you can get ideas from them. But when they start pitching a specific product or service. That's when your normal caution needs to come back to life and make sure that you do your third party checking. Before you say, yeah. That really would work for me. Let me give you just one example you hear me say repeatedly. When people ask me basic investing question saving for retirement, putting money in a Roth whatever and I go through like a protocol about you look at the low cost companies vanguard Schwab, fidelity, these are the investments at Schwab. And fidelity, I like do your Roth IRA you can do up to six thousand a year the get going with it make it automatic. And all that. Okay. So it is you strip out the vanguard fidelity Schwab, the advice is completely standard and commonsensical. But then when you hear me say, well, we're I would go is vanguard Schwab fidelity. Just taking my word on. That is not a good decision. You wanna make sure that you check and say, well, we're going to fidelity thing. Let me see. What is this thing? Clark talked about about this funder that fun isn't really good. Is it really, okay? Don't just take my word as the word take my word is guidance and direction. Chris is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, chris. How you doing? Fine clark. It's a pleasure to talk to you. I've listened to for decades. And I'm glad I'm having the opportunity. Well, great to have you here and view wanna talk about some. It's been a really hot topic on our show the last maybe two and a half years hit me with it. I live in the outside. The you might be. I know you travel a lot you might be familiar with it greater finger lakes region of upstate New York. Not only my familiar with it. I been in the finger lakes region. Well, then you're not froze my tail off in September. And there were snow flurries. There you go locum upstate New York. But I it's beautiful area. But one of the disadvantages is it's kinda as you as you been up your scene, it's rural and scenic would the lakes and mountains, and we're very limited. As to what we could watch for television, especially we have very limited choices out with a package right now that supper. Renewal this summer, and I'm getting a decent deal. But as you know, loyalty is not a thing that is used in the TV business when it comes to cable and satellite and things like that. And once my two year special is up that summer invest starting my investigation now, it's to what if the look for a television options, we have an issue where we can't get the local stations very well with with an antenna because I'm a distance probably the closest city is Rochester, New York, and it's difficult with an antenna. So I'm looking at these options that I had a colleague of mine a week or two ago. Hanes to me and said that there was this television streaming package that he gets of heard you talking off and on the past two years like you just said about Hulu and YouTube and all these other sling and so forth. I don't believe I've ever heard you talk about this one. The only thing my colleague told me is that it's very inexp-. Twenty five dollars a month. You can't get the local stations on it. But you can get up to five hundred channels which seem to me a ridiculously high amount of channels for twenty right? Right would really seem strange is that many of these channels are carrying proprietary sports packages, which normally you would have to pay a misportrays fan. So I know like if I get a hockey package, it'll cost me a couple of hundred dollars a year, or football or basketball or anything costs you. But for twenty five dollars a month. You're getting a lot of right? So let me explain there's some stuff I need to tell you and your friend can make the decision the your friends made. But these this is one of many pirate services services. I use that word loosely there any of number of these pirates that grabbed program packages and grab channels. They don't have rights too. And so the twenty-five that your friends paying is getting him a lot of ill-gotten gained television. And there are many of these out there. We got a lot of calls about these alternatives because the. Cost of the the programming services in the program channels, and then the specialty channels hockey baseball NFL college all that NBA. They're they're on their own. They're very expensive. So these are all pirates, and whether you would be prosecutor something like that who knows but the legitimate streaming products start at about twenty bucks a month. But to get a decent amount of programming for somebody really likes to consume video. You're going to be more in the range of forty a month. The issue we have here with local. I mean, I I would go at one of those. But the issue we have is like my wife likes to watch the Niger. I mentioned the, you know, the the major networks from the lorry that generally is going to be covered. And I would look at look at the bigs among these my favorite of them is the one that called YouTube dot. Tv or YouTube, TV, whatever you wanna call. It is my favorite streaming products. But we actually have a guide at Clark dot com. Where we go through the pros and cons, and what channels you get on each of the services again starting roughly at twenty a month plus for people that are all tra- cheap. We have zero dollar a month. That's legit zero dollar a month. Series of services. You can do that. We now list on our comparison guide at Clark dot com. So let your friend do this. If your friend wants to, but I don't advise it. I don't recommend it because of the dangers being involved with one of the pirates David is with us on the Clark Howard show. Hello, david. How're you? Hello clerk, just fine. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Listen to you for for years. Thank you. How can I be of service today for Christmas in two thousand seventeen I gave my son a thousand dollars and started him in one of the big companies and putting him in a twenty fifty targeted fund in hopes that he would put some more money into it. But he hasn't. Okay. So I got I got a tip for you. This is a parent of three children have been down this road before when I do is. I only put money in for my kids as as teenagers if they put in money so that if they put up a dollar, I put up a dollar call at the daddy match. And I I've been able to create the incentive where my kids put money aside, because they know that they're going to instantly double their money. Is twenty one year old working at all or what's going on year? She's a world, and he traveled the country willing. So he may make late money to he makes he's been making some pretty good money. But he seems to spend it all our find a way to spend it. Okay. He bought a big camper. And he's now he's looking at a truck and. So in other words, he's a typical twenty one year old. That's that's correct. And as right now. It's now twenty one he's actually twenty two now when he to okay. So so what are you thinking of doing because you gave him a thousand and it's just sitting there hadn't touched any of that has he no sitting sitting there nine seventy right fluctuates with the market of Corey war. But I was wondering about letting him maybe take that out and put it into one of these accounts that can trade free. I wouldn't do that like Robin Hood or something that's the one. I was looking at. Yes, david. I I wouldn't go that way. I'd go back book into what I said up front. He's making big money as a welder. And you know, he's gonna hit a point later in life going to say, I should have listened to my dad and shouldn't put money aside. So what I would do is this money. That's the nine seventy that's in. There is it inside a Roth IRA or is it just in a regular investment? Count just a regular investment pointy fifty Carre. So when I would do is he's working. He's got income. I would migrate that money into a Roth IRA there'll be no tax doing it. Because the accounts actually where thirty dollars less than it was originally, and what I would do in that Roth and do Roth is tax free account for people that are working, and he can have to six thousand dollars in it and you want to build this habit in him and the target retirement fund is actually a great choice. And so what I would do is. I would go to him and say, hey, I'd really love for you to think about saving money and something to offer you this. I don't know what you can afford to do. But whatever amount it is you offer to put up a dollar for each dollar hill put into this. Roth IRA. Because it's not about getting him interested in investing. It's about getting them interested in not spending. Every last penny. He's making as a welder. That's true. Yeah. And so the dad match that you can do with your twenty two year old son would do more for him if he'll participate than anything you could imagine because you'll really Bill that habit of saving and investing by the time. He's mature enough to understand it. He will already put in money because it want to pick up the free money from you. It's my pleasure to welcome you to the Clark Howard show where it's about you learning ways to keep more of what you make. No this show is so different than most any talk show in that this show is not about me having the last word about my opinion, being the only one that matters. It's about collective wisdom. We all learn from each other. And it's really important that I learned from you because I'm just a guy just one person. And when I give advice I give information when I give Pinon when I'm answering someone's question. It needs to be on the money. And there are times you feel like well, my brain's bankrupt. And that's why we have Clark dot com slash Clark stinks. Where you can post where you feel. I gave bad advice. I missed the Mark or I'm just plain dumb. And so once a week, our producer Krista goes through your posts on Clark stinks and shares highlights with you right here on the air. I should've never to speak which thing I'm pretty stupid. All right. All right. This one might be a little tough for me say something I just wanted to mention I get more comments from people kind of awkwardly nervously or guilty laughing. How much thing love hearing Clark stakes that it's just their favorite thing. We do on the air, and I love it too. And love that we do this. It's it's fun. It really it's. Because of the way you you just have such a good attitude about it, the more the more wingless into others, the more we learn and the better we are as people in what we do in our lives. All right. Hope I do this one right? You'll see what I'm talking about can someone please coach Clark on how to pronounce. Wow way. It's not that hard you if you can say one, you can say while way, it's the same thing. There's no reason that trend's transliteration of and they put the simple in. There is. Oh, wow. Way. There's a reason that that's while way in not Weiwei. The h is there for a reason remember J in Spanish is also pronounced like an age. So everything is they're telling you pronounce it properly. And I'm sure you you say one properly and don't say one. So can you please stop butchering the company's name, the Chinese think were incompetent and uneducated enough as it is Scott, Scott. Thank you. Why way once that to be the westernize way that their name is said because they want people just to identify with the brand in the United States. The brand is tarnished one because of fears in the Trump administration that way is an agent of the Chinese government engaged in spying, espionage and also a disruptive force. But why is it said in everywhere else in the world except as? Asia is the way they prefer for their name to be said. So it's easier for people who don't speak Chinese to say the name. Hey clark. I love your show, but you failed to mention in addition to freezing your credit reports with all three bureaus. You should also freeze your check systems report to prevent people from opening fraudulent accounts in your name. I work at credit union, and we can pull a credit report. Even if it's frozen for the purposes of opening a new account, but frozen check systems report would prevent this. Thanks for all you do. Nathan nathan. That is a great suggestion and Nathan let me tell you the challenge I face with all the potential ways that people can create havoc using your density is that I don't want people to feel overwhelmed and shut down. Your suggestion is one hundred percent valid I start with the low hanging fruit of trying to get people to freeze their credit files with the three majors equifax trans union and experie-. And just as he point out there other ways that people can cause mischief another that came up recently was from someone who works at a cell phone store about freezing your identity with the database that the cell phone carriers used prevent somebody getting a cell phone is there you so there are actually a couple of hundred specially bureaus out there and to add others, if you're really diligent is a great idea like adding check systems Claquin stink. However, there is one thing that you seem to leave out when discussing Roth IRA you always say can joy your contributions penalty free. But when I research it I'm seeing that you have to be fifty nine and a half to do. So this true. Does it vary by state or situation? Thanks, you're awesome. Dustin destined. Thank you for that. All right. So here's the nuance. You can withdraw your contributions tax penalty free at anytime. But your earnings. Must stay in the plan to your fifty nine and a half or older to avoid any problems. So that is the distinction with a difference. And that's why there are people who use Roth IRA's is their initial way to build up a rainy day account at the same time. They're building up money for retirement that is money that you don't wanna be tempted to draw from. But if you had to you can withdraw a significant portion everything you've contributed amounts you have contributed tax and penalty free Clark at been listening to your show for over eighteen years. And I love the advice you give a lady call. She asked you what to do regarding changing her last name to her married name when it came to travel, you told her to go ahead and change her name on a driver's license. And not to worry about our passport until it would expire the problem is that when you book an airline ticket the name. On the ticket has to match the name of the document used for travel. Furthermore, if you were enrolled in a frequent flyer program the name on that program has to match the name on your profile. So as you can see if you travel domestic and abroad, you've a problem purchasing ticket and getting miles with that airline also programs like TSA clear won't allow you to use your maiden name after you've changed your name to a married name. The list of hassles goes on and on if you don't take care of all of your documents credit cards airline frequent flyer programs cetera. Sandy, sandy, I appreciate that. You are not the only person who pointed out the fall on the advice. I gave I gave vetted vice based on how expensive obtaining passport is. And renewing one is and that's why I explained the way I did because most people who travel very rarely travel internationally. And so I thought you'd just got the clock run on the passport. Obviously you and several others felt that that advice was short-sighted. And that I was cheapening out on something that could cause severe hassles at some point Clark for the first time in honors listening to your show, I needed some air freshener recently, you spoke of loan forgiveness for specific professions to prevent professions mentioned as public service are the very careers of my neighbors who worked short days and or weeks and spend their free time drinking and playing corn hall while the way rest of us worked twelve hour. Plays corn hall. That's the game where you tossed the beanbags onto the wooden. It's usually wouldn't platform with the whole in there. And you try to get in the whole and there's like two of them, and you go really tailgating, you've never tailgated. Okay. Anyway, their time actual real lying and drinking and while the rest of us worked twelve hour days, why should their loans be forgiven? Loan forgiveness is a flawed concept at does not hold people accountable for their choices something you've always supported besides how public service defined most companies generate product or services that benefits the public, for example. A civil engineer that works for a private company, but decide designs roads for a city, wouldn't that be a public service? Andy. And the thank you. And that's why public service loan forgiveness has always been controversial roughly one in four college graduates work in something that qualifies under the current law as public service, the idea of the loan forgiveness is there are a lot of people who might have made a different career choice if they had to absorb the full cost of their college education. And so the idea of public service loan forgiveness, which remember right started under. President George W Bush. I think that's when it started. Anyway, the idea of it is to encourage people to go into lower paying jobs that are with nonprofits or police officers. Teachers firefighters that kind of thing so that people will not feel that their student loans would keep them from taking a job like that. And so there's always been the question and capitalism, what is the greater benefit to the public is somebody who creates a new product or service that the public craves and loves or is it somebody who serves people in a traditional public service, capacity. And that's something that we still haven't figured out as a society, Clark stinks almost as much as the smell of burning cellphone. I had a neighbor who acts accidentally ended up putting their cell phone in the oven and Clark's advice on cellphone, smells, almost as bad Clark. And his team spent a lot of time talking about finding the right cell phone. Plan, but very little time discussing the upfront costs of the phone itself. My wife, and I have a plan with one of the big carriers, which costs us a little under a hundred dollars per month. It is not an unlimited plan. But it gets us all the data we need for most months. I have an iphone five c which I purchase new years ago, which apple has not updated for many years. It is glitches at times because of the lack of updates, and you cannot download the newest apps to it because of these software shortcomings. But when I look at trading it in for a newer model, the cost of a new phone always makes me pause. Even the cost of upgrading to a six, which is what my wife has makes me almost as likely to pass out as the fumes from burning plastic. The break even point seems to be just too high to make it worthwhile. Please clark. Give us some good advice in how to manage the entire cost of cell phone ownership. Not just the plan portion, Michael Michael. I appreciate that. So rule number one. If you wanna be able to upgrade your phone and not. Spend a fortune is you got a switch from apple to Android. And there are a lot of perfectly adequate androids. It would run circles around that five see that you can buy at around one hundred dollars for one hundred fifty dollars. You can buy a phenomenal phone like the Motorola g six that's now street price around one hundred and fifty dollars. And if you do want to stay in the apple or a bit you can buy at very good prices refurbished of the sixes or the sevens. Although I would recommend the sevens. Because of the battery issues the sixes have I've used a live Clark's advice. I have two and a half percent fifteen year mortgage because I listened to Clark's advice to refund refinance after Brexit, an eight fourteen credit score that I'm honored monitoring credit karma because of Clark life insurance from policy genius because of Clark van God. Roth IRA never target retirement. Fund for my wife because of Clark his advice about prepaid burial, however needs to be updated. If a person goes into a nursing home, they should get a prepaid burial. It is an exemption for Medicaid. And that way if a person ends up on Medicaid, they won't have enough money to pay for a funeral. An Arkansas attorney. I appreciate your advice, and it is a dilemma involving the prepre paid funerals because the biggest problem with prepaid funerals. How much people are paying in advance for those funerals. You know, the cost of funerals vary so much that Mak preference has been the you use one of the services of state or local memorial society. You can see them at funerals dot org, and even with some of those you can find these low prices, and if necessary depending on the state, you may be able to prepay but pay roughly about one fourth of what the typical funeral might be in an area. Sorry clark. I think your calculator batteries are running low and giving you wrong answers. You stated that there was no sense getting an airline credit card unless you flew at least twice per month. I fly once per year at Christmas and still come out ahead. My AA credit card annual fee is ninety five dollars bag fees are twenty five dollars per person each way, which would cost me a hundred dollars some already a newspaper and a coffee ahead. Then I factor in the miles. I crew and it's worth it to me. True. I'm not getting double cashback, but I'm still coming out ahead for flights. I'd be making anyway, plus earning miles for free trips later, just so, you know, le- le- you give a perfect example that if you fly an airline that charges for checking a bag that having a typically the lowest level airline card tied in with American United. Delta will get you a free bag for everybody on your reservation. Purchase with that card is usually a ninety five dollar annual fee and. One family trip can make that pay. I never check a bag ever not ever. So I don't even consider that. But your point is valid otherwise you could fly south west in two bags per person. Fly free every flight, I appreciate all your posts. Please go to Clark dot com slash Clark stinks. And let me know how I can serve you better J joins us on the Clark Howard show. Hi, jay. How're you doing? Good. How are you? Great. Thank you. Jay. You have a question that is close to my heart. You wanna have a vehicle that'll dry forever. Haven't made them yet. But I try to get as close as I can. And you know, and I know the brands that last the longest, and I was listening to your one of your last sessions where you were talking about cars that people have held onto for fifteen years or more. Exactly. And that sounds great. What I'm wondering is is there a website anywhere that rates pretty much? Maybe not just the brand. But even the models of which cars have the best long Javadi ratings, and I'm talking to hundred thousand miles plus so that is that is the point of a list, and this may have been the one you heard me talk about or not from C cars dot com. The vehicles that people tend to drive more than a couple of hundred thousand miles and they are specific models, and I've got it on Clark dot com. But I'll tell you it's divided the longest lasting cars, the longest lasting trucks, and then overall the longest lasting vehicles. So are you interested in a car or truck or SUV? Eventually would be a a minivan. And then my wife do for an SUV. So let me hit you with quickly the highlights. And then you see this in full on our right up at Clark dot com. The vehicle that is most likely to last the most miles the Toyotas. Koya is in terms of what people keep on the road, the longest miles Chevy suburban Ford, Expedition the Yukon XL Toyota forerunner Chevy Tahoe. Toyota Highlander, hybrid Honda ridge line in Yukon, those are all the SUV's. And then I got the cars, and they're overwhelmingly Toyota and Hondas well in Gan, you can see this whole list on Kark dot com and make a call on it. There's only too many vans that make the list the Honda odyssey and the Toyota Sienna, you're listening to the Clark Howard show. Thanks for joining us today. The Clark Howard show is produced by Kim droves. Joel LARs guard, Debra Reese, and Jim airs and remember twenty four hours a day where there to serve you at Clark dot com and Clark deals dot com.

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Andy Gray-Game Of My Life

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Andy Gray-Game Of My Life

"Bound i thank you very much. I'm just back in uk. right now. because i'm just recovering from a subject and knee replacement after all these years at faintly the old rate knee after sex operations and what we finally. I had to concede defeat to mother nature. So i've just been back for the last five or six weeks in the uk But heading back to cata on elliott approved by the south of april. Anybody to cut off for the season. Will you'll same ning greis. Defeat wasn't a didn't face defeat many times in the season we're gonna go back to knowing teen seventy six bothering welcome all to a game of more laws with andy gray and in this episode. We're going to be focusing on that. Christmas cracker villa park on the fifteenth of december nineteen. Seventy six she he water. You were number one in the charts with under the moon of love and that noise under those floodlights at villa park. You showed your opponents liverpool. Who were number one on the year. That was quite a night It was an extraordinary evening Episode it was like fighting over a season. Actually for when i think about it. Because you know end of the season before my ra- season we haven't really suggested that we were going to repeal this season. You know we we've done okay. We have too many. I remember that my first season too many draws so close to a good team close to being a bad team we find but you know that results shouldn't surprise to respect that we start the season i think we played west ham opening day and four and beat them for going on. We switch five five to. I think at villa park. It'd be awesome five villa park so we had short not if we get it going and we head to what all assets that we can we. We can score goals so we certainly knew we were. We were good enough to score goals. We invoke a five goal as well. that we that we won three two. So we had to ennis. But this is love to this was the champions-elect and this was arguably the arguably. This is the best team in the lions coming developer to swat a young pretender. Because that's where we are with the young pretenders and liverpool. This mcdermott on different missing euro. Liverpool were champions. And i did go on and retained the total that season but that nowy you give liverpool one hell of a hammering and if i can take a from usa take a bow son tycoon. It was far five one against liverpool. You'll manager with obviously run cylinders Pie was the manager of liverpool. The attendance inside villa park that was forty. Two thousand eight hundred and fifty one deliver poteen were in colorado clements phil nail jerry jones phil thompson. Right kennedy befall. A don't know why but pay tacoma quarter before him. as well emlyn hughes kevin keegan. Steve heighway john. Toshack wasn't plying divy. johnson. Terry mcdermott and kalugin. That was fantastic liverpool lineup. Can you remember your lawyer pander. Well beaten then tell you that i hadn't just kinda because i remember that we. We went in there with a couple who would not normally plagued corrects for season. I wasn't being jake. Findlay was angola dates and one young large. It didn't play much for bella. Do think jolly young at santa bike. Chris who never made it so Challenges brought into play alongside lee phillips and the rest. Sade was pretty much As we heard you know we a good. He would have been raped by yet. I'm rob what would you be left back. And then we came with people always makes me laugh when the people go to but four three and which nevertheless vantage until you cry from bentley at the bus load. And what have you. And i look back to that night and that season when we did play with it like a like a three tight. Medfield and dennis cowardice And then joined the and bryan. Let let be front. You gotta go any voice. Three bet fuel plaza white players brian. I just frontman all of us and not enough. I cannot them. The middle of dixie and blindfolded davis eight four seven every since And don't makes me laugh. When i look back and see that people say no no that wasn't invented and you must be to trust me boys long before then and you are. Because in the modern age football premier league premier league football star cd. In the icu. Hundreds the the hungarians were plying different system in the in the fifties the the austrian tinware in the thirties. Football hasn't just invented goals. These systems of all is implied and gripe playas plight systems. Don't win games. Players weaned games. A not game. You were totally on fire. You've started the scoring and the after ten minutes once you memories of your goals that evening and strangely of quaint clouded alabama. I don't know whether it was the first goal of the festival. Got one and five eight but one just beginning. They gave him one right. And this will cost. I think just to put the seal on what was amazing. Forty five minutes of people But i do remember when coming over from the left and claims him out trying to punch up. Yeah and and i just go ahead of them. And then nick awesome and because he had a goal that was Just talk to the an empty net basically now know if that was the first of the festive as my thinking was the i think that was the first and i've new collection of yeah. I can't believe someone they will tell you. The boys always you have me talk. That goes to school. Be trying to think about festival not make the member. Brian school that wonderful goal A wonderful exit the clock as well. Remember my phone festival. First goal just before halftime and dixie was supposed to be playing feeling. The twenty one's at noise at night for england and pulled out to play against liverpool actually was making a name for himself. You know he had always been the team Bought too short. Everybody walk good player. He was. And i think. Roy just find see that i'm fee understood one. Sean does This was no negative team. He packed when you look at frank cowardice he was always running for what frank and then then it's more are always subject forward. The alex kroll was a forward player. You know we didn't have what you would call a setting midfield player. And there we have. No we just three very good metric. You could play box to box. And that was that was a strength about. It was a really an attack. Mainly team in jordan goodman. I mean we may as well ahead to right wing like naked getty plead out but i think the and this other. We are great and does get headlights. Thanks to the players about yo that particular denison and alex semi alexander staff because he went off injured members tells me well alex of that night. Dennis mortem on the first half absolutely unbelievable limits. You the absolutely post a team that had delayed satanic dan. Ray kennedy in callahan You know these players not team and yet they never had to look at two hundred dollars off off. and then mickey buttress chemo. Played the second half and you know. I don't know how many games mckee ended up playing for. But i don't think it was too many but he played a part in the second half. That was canada anticlimax in came by. You look at what should we do. But we were good and again. I think clam played really row for them second yet. We just came out and sat back and said we might do in the game. we'll just protect. But we have 'cause it's levek and getting a bit scared. We young and philip bravado. Apart from chris. Nicholl and lee phillips. We're young and philip and full of confidence and that's will be dead but the second half and we could go easily two three more second. Half of claim hadn't played as rail in the lubbock go. That's what all the match reports also say. What was the mood in the aston villa dressing room at halftime. Because you know to to be leading against liverpool you think what would that even if you a drawer and against liverpool you go with. Tha that to be five one against liverpool. It's dreamland an honestly. If you look at the stotts bowl. I think we had six shorts ago in the scored five of them or sex attempts at goal scored refi of. It's just an extraordinarily Evening that you don't often get. I think in the duration of about you know roy saunders corn because as i say we bought from layton with experienced players. We had a young say. Yeah we use you know myself. And i was only my second season england joined. Dna topic. played. Brian russillo bit more experienced. But it still was an old Flying alex was just that he's season. I think you're being an english boat. Outer stunningly street. Yes it'd be an awesome. Yeah so You know at halftime a look at each other while we thought well here. We've played really rebel. You know where you couldn't take them out. It'd be leather gloves. Come back is the fly second half and you know we've got no lack older. Because he he kept ahead. state level. headed You know what like pragmatists very pragmatic very tower didn't get carried. We He would he would be like. Yeah well you just have to put up over forty five minutes to him again. That's sort of like just making sure that nobody not think convenience already one but it was. It was a little bit of i thought. Wow that was something special member sitting. Yeah i'm the cup of tea thinking. Geez what just happened but sadly no cameras there to record it the tragedy. The tv cameras. Apparently were the dhabi. Dairy cows was making his debut. Hours your spleen transferred for a lot of money to to dhabi county from charles and nothing. The bbc cameras are believe it was the sports review of the year. That was on the bbc and cameras cameras. They wasn't many cameras in those days. It was it different ballgame. Wasn't into of of that. It was also different. Ballgame game for liverpool. Because i wasn't used to getting beat. That was their worst defeat since they got beat. You mentioned earlier. Yellen close to iraq's nineteen sixty six in the european cup on the seventh of december. You'll go you reference you go against ipswich town. That was the first hat-trick on aston villa player in the top flight. Cinched tony hateley. Schooled at three against tottenham at white hart lane again in nineteen sixty six in the fall. Involved draw why we didn't know about. Can you remember the only team that got the double over aston villa that season only the double over. We beat my united. It would be a good seems would be other good teams so old on now. I know mindset. Be alien this season and the ad that they'd be again. No we know. Who did the double of those bobby serving. Mcc look the season an oil lease look at margins when when you played that game against liverpool that wonderful neue villa supporters you. Would you still have the game in hand on the poll. Yep two points for winning third. You were flying was he. The case of you played so many cup games that season in replies you got the fallen out of the league and you had so many games in you playing catch up from from mid march. You apply in the game every three days. I think it called immediately. I never finished the season as well as i've been fucked three quarters of it and it was. It was only my second season was still i just on that liverpool beginning december. Twenty one On november the thirtieth weeks before that lever became so i bestow Comes with the demands of english football. And you're right. The cup runs took a low. There's absolutely no over that. We went deep in both well as cell. We went deep in league cup. We had three semifinals against keep ya. We had three finals against there. But you know we had we deepen if it kupp as well. I do think that as we got near the end of the season that that we did. I gas a little bit. I'm results were part. We lost we lost. Maybe three games out all at one time near the end of the season that just that knocked but we'd so continent that we could keep going because we are young adult evidence of their heads and the things like rotation you never thought of rotation and there days of saw this a company and said that's if a cup tie you ninety bum. No plan rest. It'd be like well you got chad's escorting in this game you must be kidding me on. You know what we wouldn't have thought it'd been rested. You missed the game engine. That was about it. So thank you. Fifty plus games. That was that we did not like. It must have been fifty six. Sixty some closely sexy. It must fifty six games. I saw games and there was and we didn't have big sports with twenty five. Scorza has had fourteen fifteen players that you relied on and to get you through those. So what big demand. And i do think a young stokely meetings because only rela second season by after a long day. So we're still about any experiences. Well i do think that it just took. I was a little bit because we more schemes. And that's shaking of the season Against sates that we normally y- beaten by. So i clicked on the uk serena atp onto this season as well I think things often so it was. It was a bit like that. We were at such a good. The played so well. Unbelievably texas is a great team to be a member. Just feeling edgy time. We're going to win the feebles. Whatever we went we didn't always of course but you know when it went right as a dead that night. We would as good as anybody in the league. Yeah there's no doubt in my mind we were. We are a great site. You plied without failing you. Roy you give a lot of teams a lot of goals. I guess when you look at the season as a whole aston villa would go in for for the treble you ended on It was the highest placed finish since the war for for aston villa so it was a fantastic fate. You ended up just six points off. Liverpool that when the league on fifty seven new yorker. Yeah you at fifty one. Had you birmingham. There's four points you two points. When you look at a season you can make these points off. And it was a case of jost. If only use go to patrick's at season you scored six braces. So you had too much bulls. The hat trick scored against dips. Which always talking to keith birch. Indicate said all. Watch that game and went underscored those goals. I realized i had to change game. So you didn't just go. You influenced nor the central straw could. Who's watching you that game. You influence men twenty nine goals and that season twenty five in the league. Three in the league and one in the f. I and you had a lot of injuries at us. How many times did you miss. Can you remember approximately well i. I've scored twenty five league goals. Yeah i probably missed a forty two league games. I guess i must twenty five league. Probably that in thirty five games. Yeah you probably missed a dozen games that use it usually so i mean it could have been to. That was niggly ones. That was that was always unlucky. Bay spokane owned and before we we were playing a final replay against avenue in the league cup and we played at the bay spoke at the weekend before and it was like a wasp patch of other played in my life as it wasn't newsday's man but i did not. I did one of the on the patch and turned my ankle and it went. And that's why. I must the final game of the league cup which is so disappointing but just a stupid singlet not just by patch just causing me on mine cool and made me miss the game that was got about. Yeah the cutting edge is that what the baker wwe or luck and that was this season that you play pool violin the copen. You were injured while he was playing. That guy was in soon this force. She's apply yeah he did the deal once. We know i'd like him half say. Yeah because i didn't want to play. Because i couldn't play actually going and i was up at ten days a week. It was portfolio. For god's sake it wasn't like played mandate united and we were at home. And i i didn't get his desire to get me on the football pitch and because we could've beaten board vale easy with someone else in the team and i would have been feted play in ten days as it was struck me off the injected me through on the patch. You know we. We won three now easy automatic off. You just said to me. I need you the team. I need you. I need to put that team. She deport with your name on it. Then they're going to get such a left before the game. If you wanna get that. But i was listen as kind of compliment and many ways that he was desperate for me be because he thought the team would gather stiff awards. Were playing against but it was a bad mistake. And because i was young i did what i was told to. Patent an cost me. Injuries law games during the planet shouldn't have done but that definitely was about one because You know. I was hopeful about months after that So that wasn't no you missed. The phone was the missed. The the fa cup game at manchester united in in the sixth round as well. That's the thing and also my sister but next week the your whether it was called europa league uefa cup. Yeah yeah that fatal quarterfinal against you. These things that only got beat one old trafford plan. Who knows what made the difference. We we had played united. He's and we were. We felt we. What is good is and we certainly didn't feel intimidated platinum. You know we. We did lose ultra daily in the season but we had beaten him as well. So you know we would. We would okay. We would okay about again not being fat games on that as well. It's not great. Good that liverpool game was that one of your best performances in an aston villa. Wow my individual performs. listen I because of who was again. Yeah when you talk about performance you kinda say right. Who was against. I'm not was against the champions. And the champions elect No mugs toll So it's up there. I'm other than strap. That's nothing could once. Thank my my my performance against eps which yet in the second half in particular i was hopeless asaf and the second half and ago second exist. Good a hat trick as i could. It was amazing. That was good. Good gives us a lot. That i was lucky because i was young. Was one thousand nine hundred twenty three and i was i was i was Key make an infamous alfred. I was. I'm vicious. And i didn't like losing so you know the many can think of when we i was good and hot the allegiant ated away just before they'll ever pull gave them. We beat leeds. three one. gail odroid score to that day. I really good at that age. I was played such a big season for best. Because i wanted. Pfa that's a measure of how consistent i'd beaten and that's not easy with the young player but it was. It was affecting ed for the of so much team. It was named as he's to get that. After the disappointment of missing they're gonna leave both cup competitions and but it was a season that we can look back on everybody us know what that was especially at some unbelievable games as i say to win five three games that season against good teams to score four goals. I don't know maybe four. Fives i mean. There's quite strongly that we we started the league season when ford now at home against west ham kicks and we finished the season when ford now against west brom yeah fish and yet you scored a hat trick on the last game this season you school bryce on the first game this season and had you taken the penalties you scored a hat trick henrik riding school to one from the spots though again you would apply. It didn't take penalties. You did take a leave. One that season arrest in villa possibly the only penalty that you ever talk. That was richer. We know it was stoke tone of the penalty stone shops goal of thinking. Yeah so go again. If you took penalties in school the penalties you'll know misery even higher ground again pro. Can you hear me back now. Yeah yeah. I mean that pedal i think was in goal for he was he would have been that. Yeah yup villa. We portland oregon shooter. That was it. That season couldn't because that season you got beat one nil at a. Who's your roommate. Andy when you were. We would go in and y on on trips with with the villa. Tuna know okay like me. I don't get in brian. You still have a room. Together and chat and players phillips enroll would always be rooming together. I i just to curb it. I was given. I was not followed up but not because it was just a case again ready for the game but not even a everton and never had a designated. Just i remember shopping. Join bailey videos. Boys and villa with the i mean suppose went probably mcdonald because it was scopus. Am i ever one and now i never had a particular roommate thought right. I'm gonna remember them. All the time now again for margins could win could have won the treble that year with satellite. What we tend to do is remember the winners and forget the losers or forgetting the runners-up which is very unfair. Because when you look at that season you would as good team as we had in the country that together done something special and sadly. Because you didn't win you only won the league cup. And that's not being disrespectful because that was a great competition to win but you've on the double the f. i. In the league people would have looked to that season in a slightly different way and that. He's very very unfair. Isn't it very unfair missing it. I mean i get yes. I thought we'd agrees believable. Football hundred percent things called with us. Because we're having won the league later just a couple years lay then european cup. That's gonna die. Any sage really dead prior to that and i get that i can understand that totally but anyone who played not say there was something special about an could've been special. It could have been special but sadly we never quite got there. I think if you ask any aston villa supporter they would all echo these words that although you didn't achieve the league championship although you didn't achieve european winners you were out there. Just as greis in the in the history of aston villa football club as the ones that did when you were just very unlucky plight a few times too many it coach with you and a case of if i only any terms of that noise against liverpool what annoys me december back in seventy six as an atheist and it's been an absolute pleasure reminiscent and just looking back on a game of your life game that you'll never forget the game. Villa supporters will never forget a game that liverpool will never forget when i come to birmingham six and got forty one by one of the greatest aston. Villa teams all towing. Thank you sir j zander. Thank you me jas pal. Bovine three were be

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Scott Highmark  SLU Billikens Season Preview

Scoops with Danny Mac

13:31 min | 10 months ago

Scott Highmark SLU Billikens Season Preview

"It's friday it's almost basketball season and saint louis university. Their season is right around the corner. It is highly anticipated. It's one of the most highly anticipated seasons. They have had in years. We get to talk with the saint louis university hall of famer and that is scott. Hi mark scott. Always great to hear your voice. Hopefully you are safe and healthy and your family is doing quite well. How are things going. They're going gray dan. Thanks for having me always good to visit with you looking forward to hopefully doing some basketball with you this winter and it's fun to talk hoop so thanks for having me. Hopefully and that's where i'm at right now. Fingers crossed knocking on wood and hopefully is probably the best way to put it i. I'm hopeful that we get to a college basketball season and a high school season. I'm hopeful i'm not one hundred percent sure yet. Where where are you as we get ready for a college high school basketball season. Yeah i don't think. I don't think you can be anything. But hopeful certainly. You can't have certain t. I mean every day you look online or you look on twitter and literally like teams. You know you know. Scores of teams are getting quarantined. Or somebody's getting it or or you know. Entire how half of certain leagues are out for a period of time already. So you're hearing about schedules having to change three four five times. I talked to a couple of college coaches last couple of days. Who they they know. They're gonna miss their home opener and their second game already. So it's hard to think about a schedule is is certain and It's just interesting to see how everybody's navigating this Y- obviously is a basketball fan. You know in for the kids who've worked so hard you certainly want them to have the season but that doesn't so it doesn't trump the health and safety of of of the players and the coaching staff and the administration so that that takes priority. But i would say hopeful. Inflexible are probably the key terms and college basketball this year. And you saw it in. Baseball flexibility is the key. If you get hard and fast about anything The news is changing the cycles changing. And if you're not flexible you're going to be really frustrated this year. Probably do you think that they can be as flexible as the college football season has been to where you can have the off week and then say okay. Well let's take team x and match it up with y and z is out this week and okay. That's how we're going to do it. Let's let's match up these two teams very quickly and and play this game on tuesday night and then these two teams can play on a saturday and and do that kind of thing or is that going to be too tough to do with with college basketball because i. I do think that's the way this thing's going to go as we move along especially in the winter months. It's a great question and i. It seems as if that would that would be the the plan of attack in terms of trying to be flexible. And i even. I even read something this morning about coaches regionally are staying connected through like a group text message that says hey if you have a game get cancelled. Call us and we'll see if we have an open date. So i think the schedules going to change a lot and teams are probably gonna end up playing more regionally. I would say at the end of the day if if if if college basketball most teams in college basketball got to play their conference season and the tournament i would. I would take that right now. Just book put me down for that. And i would take that right now but i know a lot of schools and you know including you know teams like saint louis you that need typically need that non conference season. They need to get a couple of victories in the non conference to build their resume. You wanna play those non conference games to build your resume so you if you're on the bubble and march you have an opportunity to to get in but i just think it's not going to be an apples to apples when you look at. Rpi's net rankings whenever the tournament is in selection sunday. It's not going to be a fair fight. Dan because some teams are gonna play twenty seven games. Some teams might play fifteen. Some teams might play eighteen. Some teams can't travel to get the competition so it's going to be really interesting if we get into double a. Tournament how that committee is going to make a selection because it's it's not a level playing field it won't be this year. Yeah and the other thing too. I think you have to look at is when they get to that point when and if we get to that point let's say a team Loses a game and we know that if they had the normal five seven complement of players. That they they would be. Let's say on a normal the game they they would have the top seven players but two of their best players are gone. You know for for fourteen days seventeen days because they had cove it and they lose that game is at fair to to knock them because they they were out. That's the other thing. I think you have to keep in mind too. It's like hey. Trevor lawrence didn't play against notre dame. She count that against them. I don't know if that's if that's fair right. That's something to think about two point. It's a great. I mean if saint louis. She doesn't have jordan goodman on french and they lose to duquesne do how. How much do you knock them. I mean especially in basketball. I mean basketball. I mean it's there's five guys on the court and football least there's you know eleven and eleven twenty two. Maybe you got more of a chance in football. Perhaps but in basketball you lose a key player or two and it's a totally different makeup. So yeah i mean there are just all kinds of uncertainties like that that it's not going to be perfect and you know they're going to be folks that are probably going to be well already are disappointed and probably been when we get through this season or probably gonna feel like it wasn't a fair fight but you know we're all learning to to be flexible and understand where we are big picture now. So let's throw that out the window. Let's talk about if we get to that season. With some point we will Slough with all its complement of players. Coming back in my mind. Top twenty five team. I think the best team in the a ten. I think they're a team that can make a run once they get into the nc double a. Tournament how excited are you about this. This team coming. Back for travis ford dan. I'm totally with you. I think it's as deep and talented group as i mean even even looking at the of teams which were fantastic and he had some top twenty teams and teams. That made one games in the tournament. I look at this team in the roster. Both both kind of the at the top of the jordan goodwin's the hasaan french the devante perkins but then if you go beyond those top three the death that they have with your e collins and gibson jefferson threat. Thatch jimmy bell and terence hargrove and the new six eight shooter from sweden. I mean they they just. They literally have ten nine ten. Maybe even eleven guys That they can play not lose a lot when they go to the bench. I this would be a real shame if they don't get to play a full season or get an opportunity to play in the tournament. This is a team that has built for a what. I would call like a second weekend in the tournament. They can win a game or two in the tournament With the experience and the talent in the athleticism that they have and you know most people think they re enrichment are going to be the top of the ten. But i have a hard time believing that anybody is going to be More competitive in the end and then the billikens is travis. Sports fifty years recruited well and he's got experience. He's got guard play. He's got shooters. They always defend they. Always rebound and now. He's got a little bit more offense punch at a true point guard. I'm trying to poke holes in it. And i don't see a lot of whole devante perkins. I don't think it's enough credit. We always talk about goodwin. We talk about french. Perkins is is about as pure score. That's lewis had in quite a while. Would you agree totally. I totally agree that people forget up every talks about good when french. You are fantastic. And we'll go down to the all time players at slough for sure but devante perks. Maybe it's because he was a college junior college transfer Forget from saint louis And when southwest earn eleanor junior college and came in and just is a natural born score is just. He is so smooth. I think average about eighteen points a game in eighteen play and just got better and better and it usually takes junior college kids about a half a half a year as you have to really adjusted visual and play but the second half of the year i mean he was there go-to guy when they needed a bucket they were clearing out aside in running an isolation play for nevada perkins to go get a bucket. He's six six six seven really long. It's got a good mid range game but he's long enough to finish at the rim. I mean you got three guys. Good friendship perkins. That are probably the top five or six players in the eight. Ten terence hargrove. I'm excited about this kid. He was about his athletic. As you're gonna find as a freshman last year took them a while to get time but A lot of people are talking about him in year number two. What are your exp- expectations for terence hargrove. Yeah it was interesting you know. Everybody came in with a lot of expectations wednesday championship at saint. Louis high school and kennedy was buried on the bench for the good part of last year. And then it was the maryville game that that they were a little short handed and he. He's twenty four points and just got some competent. And i think travis ford saw something in him. And i think tarrant saw something in himself and all sudden the light kinda went on in from then on he was really a key contributor and we know how athletic years we can finish in transition. He's athletic. he'll guard. He'll rebound question is can kenny scored enough. Can he shoot the ball. Well enough and consistent enough to be a threat and he has proven that and then by all estimates he's really worked on his game in the all season i think he's kind of one of those x. Factors you think about getting you. Have him infrared thatch and gibson jemison all on the wings. I i mean that is a great Those are three guys that bring three different elements to the game. But i think hargrove has a higher ceiling than than the other two. A collins was a leading assist man among all freshman not just in the a ten not slew but in the entire country what is he after due to take his game to another level. Yeah you're right. I mean the the kid sees the game in a way that people don't see it and he passes guys open they don't even know they're open and he sees it developed before they see it and he's really really a gifted gifted passer unfamiliar thing he really needs to work on his. Just be a credible fifteen. Eighteen foot jump shooter. Because if they have to come out in pressure him he's going by him And team started the scout him a little bit late in the year if he gets in transition. It's over because he's going to make the right decision more times than not is it. The question is has he developed a credible jump shots fifteen feet maybe out to three point line where they have to come out and guard him because if they do that's going to open up driving lanes not only for him but his teammates. But i think your accounts gonna come. He will end up being one of the best point guards in slough history. Now one of the best players. I gotta ask you about as we Just about wrap this thing up. You know there's another hi mark that's coming along that's better than scott. Hi mark will you tell me about that. High mark. Police well she. She would not argue that point. Young daughter brooklyn. You've seen coming to games since he was little as the. She's a junior in high school westminster christian academy and she loves the game and she's just like every other hooper she wants to play and and they're hoping to play tomorrow night their first game and we're all crossing our fingers and hold our breath that that they're actually going to get to play high school basketball around here but Yeah she she loves the game and she grew up watching the bill. Coming to games with me. Just as as your kids have it. It's fun to watch your kids plays you know it's awesome and you're doing some great work in the financial world to For for fans. That are curious about what you're doing. Scotty these days tell us what you're up to you. Yeah thanks for asking we We have a company called family wealth and we're multifamily office and registered investment advisory firm and Here right right. Outside of clayton brentwood. We we get up to work with some incredible families and business businesses and just kind of help them steward their wealth and you know pursuing pursuing you know beyond success to a life of significance and making sure that we're helping them on their journey so it's really really rewarding kinda marry the financial piece of it with the behavioral finance piece of it and i'm very blessed Work with incredible team here. So appreciate you asking. I know that the younger hi mark Doesn't like to pass up shots just like the old man so she shooting in. Actually she shooting a little bit better than the old man. I can tell you that. Oh she comes by it naturally. She asked me from time to time. What did you shoot from three point. Line shoot from the free throw line. Did you ever do this so she. She had to this point. She hasn't shown much interest in by my career but now that she's getting a little more serious about it. She's she's trying to make a name for herself so it's been fun. That's awesome stuff. Thanks got appreciate it anytime. dan thank you. You got that scott hi mark.

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Martin & Marlow  Episode 33

Scoops with Danny Mac

25:29 min | 8 months ago

Martin & Marlow Episode 33

"Martin marlo episode. Thirty three charlie keeping close tabs on this. It's three anything other than great basketball. Jerseys come to mind. Well obviously larry legend but you just said besides great basketball players. We've discussed this before my boyhood idol. Because i didn't know about all of his off the field issues. Jose canseco so thirty three has always been my favorite number and then my little brother's favorite player was scotty pippin with thirty three. And i've always said thirty. Three is the best looking number on jersey. It just looks beautiful but why. Why don't i other than your guy can cycle. Maybe larry walker. But i don't imagine a lot of baseball probably forgetting some great football guys but basketball. You've got kareem. Patrick ewing like centers. that were thirty three Did larry big where thirty three. I'll have to check on that one. How about our guy not gonna check. I'm not going to check it all. I do know this one. I'm usually wrong these numbers but my guy who has fifty five double nickel with the rams was thirty. Three with the ohio state buckeyes. We're talking about little animal. James nights but all it august back the buckeyes the thirty three linebacker jersey with ohio state. He looked bad ass with that. Yes it always gets back to the buckeyes. There truly is a lot going on. But i i gotta start off topic one of my best friends. Milwaukee sends me a text today. He said hey. Bunch of my buddies wanna come down to saint. Louis is going to be an april. We're gonna do some golfing and give me a couple ideas. And he said hopefully one night we can meet up for a beer too. I'm like if i if invited to the gall. How do i respond to that. Are you a terrible golfer medium. do you wanna golf. Though i would like to be invited. I probably would say no but i want to be invited. I get that i understand. That isn't that a weird request. Can you name then if we can meet up. Because i'm not big on my best friend. Hopefully we'll meet up but you're probably so bad golf that you ruin it for everybody else. Oh that's not true. I mean i. I can maintain okay. Maybe just going you ride in the cart and drink them. I'm not welcome is the problem. That means you're probably really bad. Or maybe i am and i don't know it. That's what i'm telling you that right now. I think for next week edition thirty. Four the herschel walker addition. I'm gonna ask. My friend is a hachem. i'm not invited. And he will tell you what i just told you. Which is you're not very good. They want to have a quick pace of play. You hit every ball on the tree then you go to find it. They're like using old. Have maybe i can see it. And you basically add an extra hour to the round. I'm sure you around more fun with your jokes but then the fact that it takes five hours to play. They're not happy with that funny guy. What jack and get yourself something. Maybe grabs stuff for the boys will meet you couple of holes ahead something like that. I don't like playing golf with good golfers. I wanna play golf with people. Who are as bad as i am. We can all laugh at each other. We can drink the whole time. We can all basically quit on the thirteenth hole and just pick up the ball and throw it one time and just all get frustrated. But i don't wanna play with people who really take it seriously. Because i don't i feel like i ruin it for them. They've already ruined it for me. That's why i just don't even go. How about this. I respond because he did say. Hopefully we can meet up for beers. I responded say. I don't know that's going to be kind of tough weekend for me to get get away. I got a lot going on how much you say something more like. I'd really liked to kind of get my golf game going. And just see what he says. Yeah well you should say there truly is a lot going on. I know that's one of our pretend sports things that there's a lot going on because for a fake it for a while really busy work honey. What's going on really busy racket. A drink with from yesterday. What else what's going on. But the nolan aren't of deal obviously stole the headlines. And i i have. I'm gonna try and talk to john. Lewis alec next week kenmore the one on one zoom thing. It's just impossible to really get that feeling for somebody else. That could truly good interview. But i wanna know maybe won't admit it either. But do you feel vindicated at all like. Everybody thinks you're an idiot not everybody. But a lot of people like you're running this franchise into the ground you're counting. You're not a baseball guy. Even though they've won a lot of games if had a lot of great players so there was a really vocal minority was vocal may have been more than a minority so down on him and he mentioned that he was nauseous over the last week trying to get the deal done probably because he knows like goes through what his images is resumes and if it doesn't for whatever reason then it's just a schlab. You didn't get anything done even though you were that close do you think he is. Do you think he cares about that. I do think he cares about that. And kudos to the cardinals and also the rockies for for not letting this out until the very end when you hear. John moselle talk about the fact they were. They were discussing this again for over a month or for a month when when we finally heard okay. No-one are nado cardinals. Rockies are discussing this again it was basically completed the next day so clearly both in my opinion the rockies and the cardinals did not leak this out until it was pretty much a done deal which was very smart because if a month ago we'd've heard o- cardinals at no one are not again and it didn't happen that further cements the the bridesmaid there in on everybody that ever get anybody. They're always talking. Oh francisco indoor and one are not in a deal. Never gets done and to me. It's not a coincidence that we didn't hear about this deal to what a day before it was actually completed. Because i'm pretty sure it was. It was basically ninety. Nine percent done right. It had gotten out there. Further than the fan base would have gotten all fired up and like. Oh well we were in on them. But i also think it's turning points too strong. But it's notable for the franchise. It's somebody really wanted to come here because we all knew that giancarlo stanton didn't wanna come here. I mean good for wanted to go to new york. It's fine jason heyward's wanted out wanted to go to chicago and i think we kept saying. Oh guys wanna come here. We we got used to saying that but it wasn't really true in this sort of turns that narrative back on in the beef ribs. I feel joe straus needs to be here to make. Fun of the fibs. The rest in peace. Joe but the best fans in baseball often mocked are an atom basically said. Yeah i love those fans. And i want to be there because of that. I say. Score one for the beef phipps. I love that. I've never thought people didn't wanna come here. If you go back to two thousand nine with matt holliday. Remember john smoltz. I know somebody's. we're trades. Mark derosa when the cardinals were really good. Eleven twelve thirteen fourteen. You're getting like lance berkman. Carlos beltran coming here to try to win a ring at the end of their careers. Obviously lance berkman did then. I stretch the cardinals aren't as good and to me. It's more about personality. Giancarlo stanton jason heyward. I believe young single guys. they wanna go to chicago. And hayward's situation giancarlo stanton is from california. He was living in miami. He wants to be in new york and look at a couple of guys where we always say. Players like paul goldschmidt known are not. They're almost built in a laboratory to be saint. Louis cardinals guys like that. Fit with the cardinals. Okay veteran guys quiet. They don't wanna be all over the media. They're not on social media. They don't talk big game. They're not allowed their baseball players. Those type of players always seemed to fit really well here. Holiday was kind of like that even though holiday does tons of interviews now but just professionals grinders love baseball. And so the last couple you got paul goldschmidt and no one are not so. I've never thought that narrative was true. It's just some guys here and there wanna play in different cities. There's a lotta great franchises. There's a lot of great cities to play and not everybody wants to play in saint louis but a lot of people do. I wonder what wayne right new on friday. Because he's doing his zoom about him coming back and he kept saying. We got a good team. We win a championship. And i think the zoom reporting room. We're all well. That's a nice idea. Adams always upbeat. But how are they gonna win a championship. There may be good enough to win a depleted division. And he was asked. Why are you so confident. Any kind of teased well. We got a really smart group of people. And i don't want to say too much. But i think there's good things coming. How did he know you think mo told them one hundred percent and he almost didn't leak it. I guess but he kinda did he big wisconsin when he said something big is common and then hours later you see that no one arnaldo is being discussed once again with the cardinals and and look at wainwright. It was reported. He had an offer from the san diego padres so i don't think he really ever wanted to leave the cardinals but if he was thinking about okay. Do i go back to the cardinals. Are we a team that maybe we get in. The padres are young. They're super talented. They're going for it. Okay maybe maybe it would be cool to play for the padres for your have a chance to win the world series but john was illich says ueno. We're about to add the best third baseman in baseball right now. That's quite the sales pitch. Don't you think maybe he has to say all right. I know you're on the fence here. But i i need your trust. I'm gonna tell you something huge and probably at that point was can trust weiner. Even though that's i'd be super paranoid. Be but you gotta fifteen twenty relationship with that guy. I think you know you can trust them. But maybe it's i need to ask more weiner at that he did you tell them. Because otherwise maybe would think about san diego. Wouldn't you if you didn't get told. Hey we're about to get arnaldo one percent and i can't remember who reported this but there were different reports or tweet saying that the cardinal players were buzzing about this right the last couple of weeks so clearly some of the players knew this was a possibility and i think that also happens in baseball circles. Where you see matt. Holliday is really good buddies with arnaldo. You know matt holliday. Still really good friends carpenter and probably a bunch of these cardinals right. So those guys. All talk paul goldschmidt. S- really tight with our nado. So all these guys are talking about this. And they're trying to get no one to want to come to st louis. Oh i'm guessing it's hard to stop rumors like that amongst the players who are all talking amongst each other now. It could be really awkward if matt holidays talking about carbon dude. This is unbelievable. I was talking to this. They're going to bring him to san luis. You guys are gonna be stacked. He's in a play third. Oh you played age. Is that age coming. That could be a little he met. This is so cool. We got a gold above third baseman carpool. They gave second edmund. Where am i. He's going to have a weird year in terms of just basically super utility great question here for you. Do you think matt carpenter. You just decide for yourself. But it was a great question. I haven't even said the question yet. You think matt carpenter would rather be on the cardinals this year and hardly play at all because known are nado does not sit and paul goldschmidt is not going to sit. So maybe you have some matchups. We'll see if the age comes. Do you think matt carbon would rather be a bench player for the cardinals or go somewhere else and play every day for team is not as good who you know what jerk. That's pretty good question I think he'd want to be here in part because familiarity likes mike she'll noses teammates has a house place to get for one year to go somewhere and to be honest he doesn't know what kind of player he is probably like if he knows he's going to go somewhere and hit thirty homers and driving one hundred. He probably does want to play every day but he may not. I don't know what his confidence level is that he's that guy right now. Okay but matt carpenter. And i'm trying to. I'm predicting the answer would be that. He wants to stay here now. Hold on though. Did he wear number thirty three at any point in his career. Martin marlo on the scoops with danny mak dot com network. Chuck marla martin kilcoyne. Yes okay. Second great question wrote from me. More of a statement now carpenter is thirty five years old. Do you think he feels like he's one hundred percent done and i say that because we know this is his last contract. You're guaranteed contract here with the cardinals. What if he went somewhere else. Put up some numbers and got another deal summer. Do you think he wants to be done after this year because if he wants to play baseball beyond twenty twenty one his best shot is probably not being bench player. For the cardinals. Or what about this not a great. What if john mosaic talks to him. Candling says listen. We're going to move you around. You might have a little outfield little infield the d. h. Thing would certainly help. We don't know if we get to the middle of summer and you're just not playing and you're miserable we'll shop you gotta eat some money. Whatever and say let's give this a shot and see if you're happy with the way sheltie funds time for you but maybe you keep open mind on both sides that if we have to move you. Maybe i guess you'd have to assume somebody would want him at the deadline for a playoff push but maybe you tell them that the like let's give this a shot and carbon or has already said things like that where he is. Such an organizational guy came up with the cardinals. Been here for a long time. That if it if it worked out better for the cardinals traded somewhere else and he wasn't playing. I think you'd be okay with that. Because he knows it actually benefits the organization that he really cares about fascinating. Topics appliance. discounters. Saint louis success story there in maplewood south counting saint charles and fallen and they carry. Ge appliances you know the story at appliance discounters. Great merchandise even better prices while they carry ged. So what i tell folks to do all the time and just tell them go to the website. The appliance discounters dot com little search engine type in ge in all the great products will pop up ranges. 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I think it's just an added bonus that he's like a great guy like everybody likes him. There's nothing bad because sometimes when you grab a star whatever you just have to kind of like put up with the fact there's ego or maybe they're kind of jerks but you're like oh well it's worth at their great. It just added bonus who happens to be a good guy but when players leave get out. Good i bummed the colton long. It's gone just from a media standpoint which doesn't matter. It's all about winning. Gala does or does does. Yes by the way. So he signs milwaukee friend of the show lance allen sends me a text. Hey tell me about one. I didn't say. Check out. The ps sprays at the other way great footwork. I said he's awesome. He's super polite media-friendly and again you want a guy to hit and succeed fans don't care about the media stuff but he was a genuinely polite guy and we sort of had that running joke for years he gets picked off in the world series. Twenty thirteen young guy. Terrible moment world series picked off and he has to answer the questions after the game he's teary eyed and i felt like for two to three years after that. It's a five years. Hey called knows a big Homerun yet tonight. Does this sort of make up. And instead of saying move on as hats like. I don't wanna talk about that anymore. He always answered the question. Always friendly and upbeat great ambassador for hawaii by the way super friendly guy i just. I just think it's worth noting with somebody. It's not even immediate thing like are guaranteed clubhouse guys fans are like oh. I love meeting him. He represented the brand. Well yes. I agree with everything you just said. He was always in there in the clubhouse and if you asked him do an interview unless he had just run out and hit he would always do the interview. And i do think meeting with the media though. It's not just about us. We also don't like the guy but to me. It's more about being a spokesperson for the team and being a professional and if guys talk to the media more whether it's tv radio print. Whatever it is. There's more buzz about the sport and more people will be interested. That means more money. More people watch on tv and so you do need guys like that and cold long one of the best here for eight years and you know we're going to see him a bunch of times over the next couple years. Maybe three years if that option sets in in milwaukee and he's always still do interviews and have fun and any makes baseball fun because he's colorful and if he does hit a home run he'll do the backflip. He makes amazing plays at second base. he's fast. He's one of those guys. That baseball needs more. People like colton long because the way he plays also is very exciting. It takes you back a little bit to the whitey bald as where he's running he's making plays he's diving he's sliding that's what baseball needs more of baseballs all about walks these days and hitting home runs guys like cold long. Make the game fun and on opening day for a huge ovation. Because the brewers are here for the cards home opener we can interview them after the game and say does this sort of make up for that world series. It was every national game. Yes every national game. If if fox on saturday red zone after a great red zone pre-game show of course if he hits a home run in like twenty sixteen coal know. What does this mean after you got picked off in the world series to that was three years ago. Okay i understand. You haven't watched me play all since then but let's turn the page. How about this note related are now but more so anytime a big signing happens or a big trade happens. Matt holliday made this point. He said it's tough guys coming over. Because everybody's excited if you look at the video every play you guys shows a home run and diving cat. It's like our anatomy. His never made a mistake. You trade from wire. It's thirty seconds of video hidden bomb. It is it is kind of funny when somebody comes. You never show them striking out. Not that you would. But the idea is like it's almost like subconscious with the fans. This guy doesn't make a mistake. He's unbelievable and there's going to be times in arnaldo does struggle right. I love matt holliday. I've never thought that. And if he does struggle our nice little twenty second video on fox to. It's going to be him striking out. But if he hits a couple homers we're gonna show him double sitting homers. It's like a goalie if during benson's playing really well we're going to show video of him making every safe but he gives up four. We're gonna show him giving those goals up so to me. That's just that's just kinda how we do it in the media and you know if we showed them striking out and an errors just randomly like. Here's our nado even though he's the best third baseman baseball. Here's a ball going through his legs. This guy hit forty homers. But oh here's taking a called third strike. They'd be pissed about that. This is the dilemma. We have if we do a matt carpenter story right now and true story. Say hey let's show a little video clip of mike shield mozelle seen. He's raring to go. He's going to be good that kind of thing. What's the video. I mean you can show him hit a home run. Is that representative of what he did last year. No you show them striking out. Then you're kind of an aso. It's like us. I think we say let's just do a homer and maybe strike to be fair. It and people are really you have to kind of think of it. That way should not just gonna show him striking out every time aria or maybe walking. Here's what we should do. We should be more fair in terms of what they did. Where we'll show somebody advancing a runner so guy sack you hit a ball to right side and advanced to third. Then maybe you have a walk. Show fans clapping. Show fans clapping just going nuts because you had a really nice baseball play. Maybe you fundamentally back someone up right and you hit the kaufman and we show all that. That's the answer Martin marlo brought to you by the fine folks at kenwood pat resorts corner butcher in fenton saint louis lawn care that fit north. Ooh by the way it's funny. You mentioned that the fenton north t shirt which anybody listening can get. It's a really quality t shirt. It's only twenty dollars okay. And almost all the proceeds by the way go to a small business in saint louis dot the i. Embroidery so you go to dot the i. Embroidery dot com. And you see the charley marlowe North t shirt twenty dollars. It's a really quality t shirt you can also go to my twitter or facebook and check it out. 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I think next week we'll do a deeper dive into the college basketball excited. About doin right now just worried about slew like the wheels could come off not their fault but has little concerned about where they're headed. It really stinks for guys. Like assad french jordan goodwin. We know that made the tournament their sophomore year now dayton was really good last year but slew coulda given them a run for the money and the eight ten tournament and maybe made the tournament last year and then here. They are in their senior year. Where everybody's talking about high expectations and they have to basically not play for for over a month and now they're in jeopardy of not making the ncw and you think about a class of guys who who should go down in my opinion the same way that maderas class with george air jet and all that because especially jordan goodman hassan french. They've been here for so long all four years. Then you add in devante perkins martin. And i were talking about this before we started this beautiful podcasts. But interesting questions because you can get that eligibility back now jordan goodman already said he does not want to come back or that. He won't come back. You know. start his professional career. But you wonder guys like hassan french and maybe devante perkins if you're not going to the nba. Would you wanna come back for one more year where it's more of a normal year. Maybe you have some fans and get back to the ncaa tournament with what should be a great slew team. Next year as well are deep dive next week. Super bowl prediction here. We put it to tape. What do you got. Oh my goodness we're ready for this. I just. I've said this a few times people are saying well. How do you pick against tom. Brady i just haven't been overly impressed. Tampa bay three road winds. Give them credit. Washington's a bad team thought new orleans look bad they want in green bay total credit there. I'm just not sold that they're that good. They've got to marquis star. Players of course led by. Tom brady but i i don't see the chiefs lose. I don't unless unless mahomes gets knocked out. That changes everything. But i don't see the chiefs loser i will go ahead and say i would feel pretty good tampa bay getting three and a half so i will say oh the spread i i will take tampa bay right now on wednesday getting three and a half but i will say that the chiefs win the football game which actually matters more than the gambling. Now what did you say that they're going to. Who's going to win. That would be the chiefs and you cover. The chiefs won't cover and our our guy turk okay from you city who i interviewed. Who plays for the chiefs. I asked him a lot of questions. About steve spagnuola. Okay so that's coming up this week two as well. A local guy who will be playing in the super bar guy turk tershawn how to use city plated missouri s t that's That was me being the one guy. 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SLU Billikens Update  Scott Highmark  December 4, 2020

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SLU Billikens Update Scott Highmark December 4, 2020

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Let the doctors at blue tail medical group show you. How schedule and appointment today. The number six three six seven seven eight twenty nine hundred six three six seven seven eight twenty nine hundred stem cell regenerative blue tail medical group blue tail medical group dotcom. Let's jump right into it with scott. Hi mark. I'll be on the call with scotty tomorrow as the billikens will be on fox sports midwest and they'll take on arkansas pine bluff. The bills are to and it was just last weekend. They had a big win over. Lsu at shea fits and let's bring in the hall of famer. Scotty high mark scott great to be with you. How are things going. Things are great. Dan good to be with you. It's a basketball seasons rocking and rolling. So it's a great time here. It is your impressions of watching these games without crowds like cameron. Indoor the other day to me wasn't cameron. It was weird. It was different games without fans. It's the first time it's really caught my attention without fans. How about for you. it's totally odd. Yeah watching that duke game the other the other night even my my wife notices like does that do those cutouts. And and so. Even you know watching some of the maui. Classic that was played in asheville. North carolina was weird. I mean there's been a lot of weird optics with college basketball you. I thought the nba and obviously the college basketball doesn't have the budget to do this. But i thought they did a really good job with television optically with those graphic the boards the video boards in it kind of looked good on television. It looked like there was some atmosphere. But when you get these empty arenas with seats in seats in rows and not leaders and no bands and neutral sites. It's it's definitely a different Experience watching on television. For sure. I was thinking of you the other night. You are a great shooter of preeminent shooter in the country. Now when you're practicing on your own you're shooting in an empty building does would that affect your shooting at all in a game and not having fans or is that a dumb question no no. It's a good question. I my my theory on that shooters want a dark background with that. Is that has good depth perception. So you never nobody ever shoots well in a dome because you have no depth perception right. So let's space behind the basket. So you want is is dark background in his close. Ah background as you can to the basket in my view. In so yeah. I think whether whether whether you have fans. I think having some sort of canvas to shoot against that you're is used to is helpful. I always thought hearns hearns. Arena was was hard place to shoot because they had yellow in. If it wasn't full always felt like that was hard. I'd rather shoot. He gets a black dark background. That's right up against the backwards. So i do think it could affect the players from shooting standpoint and certainly just from an atmosphere standpoint i was also thinking about defense like switch him and hearing a guy like switch. Or pick to your left to your right. Whatever screen left screenwriter i. I wonder if there are guys picking that up easier now than in years past because you can hear everything. There's no question about that and that's a great point. I mean you could. You could hear it on television. You guys talk. You hear the coaches barking. At the referee's i think the home court advantage which in college basketball is probably as important any other sport because momentum. You mentioned playing duke with that atmosphere. You take that away ill. Richmond beats kentucky at rep arena. That doesn't happen now. Richmond actually is a better team than kentucky right now and much more experienced but but you know instead of having twenty five thousand rena. There's nobody there it kind of feels like a glorified inter squad scrimmage. That's i think you're going to see more upset. Because of the lack of atmosphere of the lack of momentum that the home team is usually you know has the advantage in that area. I gotta wonder if slough and i was talking. And i know you were on this too and The zoom that we had as kind of the the tip off Zoom call that we had with Lisa stone and travis ford and chris may and and many billick fans were on this. I got to wonder on the men's side. Especially if slough and other programs that have depth. The senior leadership is at an advantage and this across the board as opposed to one in. Duns if they're at an advantage this year more than ever because of their experiences opposed to these great athletes that come in that just have not had the practice that normally would be available in a quote unquote normal season as a great point. And i've been thinking that same thing. And you re the richmond. Kentucky was a great example that you haven't experienced richmond team that have three and four year. Juniors and seniors kentucky. I mean that was a beatdown. That was even. I mean it was close for a while but that was not watched the game that was not like. Oh that's a big upset and they got magic in a bottle for a second. I was like they're the better team and you go back to the summer. These these freshmen. That were coming in. They didn't have a normal summer. they didn't get reps. they didn't get individual workouts. Some of them couldn't travel They certainly couldn't work out. They they didn't have a normal fall. So there's no question your you know the the lack of homecourt advantage because a lot of these mid major teams are going to have to play on the road any way against these power five schools and then you take away their home crowd and you take away the preparation for the five star one and done type schools. I think you're going to a lot. More upsets in college. Basketball a lot more parody in terms of slough. What is the lsu. Game is a really good win Sl is. it's a nice win. I mean that's one that you expect to win. But what is what stood out for you in the first couple of games in watching slough. Just you mentioned earlier. I just. I'm just really really impressed with the quality of their death. Not people say hey. We can play ten well. Yeah but you're seven eight nine ten or not nearly as good as your five but when you go to the bench with slough and you bring in a guy like demaria's jacobs and fred thatches. When he's healthy. Jimmy bell started game last year in. He may not play as much this year as he did last year. He's been a little bit under the weather. But you know they've got martin who's come in and take over that center position while hassan french's been out so just the quality of the depth and you can bring a damaris jacobs you can bring hargrove. Whose gotten a lot better. You can bring jimmy bell who of experience when you can go legitimate thatch. You bring a legitimate nine ten to the table. I just think that and you don't lose much and you bring get some energy off the bench. Think that's going to be really hard. But the way that travis ford teams always placed so hard they rebound. They defend their so physical. And when you can do that with forty or forty minutes with ten guys it is going to wear out teams. I don't think i've not seen a lot of teams in the little college basketball that season we've had so far that had the quality depth that that the billikens half scott. Hi mark the hall of famer is my guest linchpins. Kind of an interesting guy is an e. We're just finding out about him. The sound french is now off the Concussion protocol. He's in full contact rails. We expect him to play. Tomorrow against arkansas. Pine bluff again. You can see that game on fox sports midwest will have the call but he's with his third team and he's kind of just fit right in not a big deal for him to go with his third team third university. And it's just fit right in with travis ford yet. He looks like an experience guy. Who's been playing college basketball for a while. He only played thirty eight minutes a game so far again. French has not been playing but he's a reliable guide. You can throw the ball to the post in. He'll make good decisions and he has it. He is an interesting neck. He's not crazy athletic but he has a way to get to the free throw line. He's gotten to the line. Twelve times in two games shoots eighty percent from the line is a good passer out of the post. He's been a nice surprise in is just. He's a nice compliment to what you have with jimmy bell and john french when you got an experienced guy like l'instant really understands the game in can impact it. Yeah i'd say that's probably the one thing that's jumped off at me watching these first. Two games jordan. Goodwin scotty your guy that that could've gone pro and and done some more things with your career. So you understand what it means to be a pro jordan goodwin to take his game to another level this year. He's been a double double machine already. Two doubles Double double so what you have to do to take his game to another level. Yeah i think he said even when he went through that pre-draft process to get some feedback from nba teams. And and. i heard him say. They told him he needs to have more reliable. Jump shot from the perimeter and he needs to improve his ball handling I mean he's outstanding right. I mean he's a triple double for every day in college But the tighter he can become with his ball handling because he's probably going to be a combo one two if he gets if and when he gets to play at the next level whereas others in the nba overseas but if he could just be a reliable three point shooter or even sixteen to eighteen. I mean the whole game opens up because he he will drive us a junkyard dog. He will get offense rebounds you'll finish in transition. He's got everything else if he can just added a reliable even a mid range game and occasionally a three point shooter. I mean the sky's the limit. Everybody kinda compare them to marcus. Smart and i see a lot app but if you watch markets learning in the nba now. Marcus is in a very very reliable three point shooter so again. He's got some growth. But jordan goodman got things that you can't teach like motor and hands and i just instincts to hunt and find the basketball. So he's an outstanding outstanding colleague. Dodgeball player. i'm sure you would agree with this more than ever Conferences need the non conference. Wins in two thousand twenty because we don't know when games are going to get cancelled so you got to build up resume now more than ever. The ten holy smokes. They're piling up. Non conference wins. There been some huge ones here in that is just beneficial for everybody in the conference right now. Honestly it's been about perfect. So far for the ted what what needs to happen. What needed to happen for the eight cents particularly in this kind of pandemic with lottery scheduling is the needed to pick up some really not quality non conference. They needed the game to be played and be. They needed to win. Some so that. When you get into conferences in you're playing each other your arp. Rpi your net ranking doesn't go down in you know. We talked about richmond beating kentucky. Vcu beaten up this slew be lsu davidson. Had to quell like to two point. Losses the techs in providence and beat. Unlv last night rhode island. Beat seton hall. Some you've got four. Five quality wins That are really going to raise the league up. And so depending upon how the schedules workout the rest of the non conference way. You're gonna have a league. Rpi or league ranking. That's high enough. Dan that when they play each other. You don't drop and you have an opportunity to you. Know you beat or richmond. You beat a vcu you beat a davidson and you actually have an opportunity to increase so the honestly. I haven't talked to travis. Transfer directly about it but i. I can't imagine that this has worked out any better. Couldn't have scripted. it any better for the league. Now you've got to win your games. It take your business but at least you have an opportunity to get into the league. Play in in probably get three or four teams in the tournament. Yeah there's no doubt a wrap it up with this. What you expect to see Tomorrow night as we do that game on fox sports midwest excited to see hassan french back in the lineup and and just see how he adds a how he linson. Jimmy bell play together. Fund excited to see i would imagine trump's forward in his staff really trying to play faster. You're seeing a lot more full court pressure. So i would expect them to come out and try to really rattle time bluff early with their pressure defense and just see if they can continue you. Starting to see things you know you're going to get from perkins and goodwin and and for the most part french but just confront get back into the flow. Emerson have a big game can diminish jacobs be reliable like that six seven energy guy off the bench. Ios hargrove gonna take a step. I think the games like tomorrow or tomorrow night. What you'll see is is one of those. What are those next five guys going to do. What role they play. Great stuff scotty appreciate your time. Good luck over at mosaic You know you're you're you're making financial dreams for everybody here in saint louis so keep that going. Okay we're we're trying our best you got you got that scott. Hi mark and scotty is always with us. On scoops who danny mac and He'll be with us tomorrow on fox sports midwest.

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Kinda Cute  Ep. 68  Everyone Wants to be Friends with Jordan Firstman

Kinda Cute Podcast

25:51 min | 10 months ago

Kinda Cute Ep. 68 Everyone Wants to be Friends with Jordan Firstman

"It's kind of cute right. Hello and welcome back to kind of cute. If you're new here a welcome. Oh i missed you. Little sugar plums last week and speaking of sugar plums. Dunkin donuts came out with a new sugar plum drink. And i really need one of you guys to try it for me and tell me how it is like i know i can google reviews of it but i really feel like i need to know from a listener of kinda cute and i just don't think i can bring it myself to buy it. It's purple and brown. It looks truly odd. But i need to know how it tastes. Even dunkin. donuts won't come out and say what it tastes like so please someone do me favor and let me know now you guys know. I was very into the crucial globe drama. Because i'm a big dancing with the stars fan and actually just this year. I kind of got back into it. I was kind of off my game a couple years but chrishell from selling sunset. There was rumors that she was sleeping with gleb. Her pro dancer partner and gleb broke up with his wife and the wife posted an instagram saying that he had had multiple affairs yada yada so a lot of people were drawing that connection. There was blinds about the fact that it seemed like Chris shell and him were sleeping together at this kind of like off site apartment and again the stars and the pros. This year had to quarantine where they could only see each other. So it's it's a recipe for disaster. So i think everyone really believes that those two had a thing. Well it just came out today. That chrishell is hooking up with kiel now keel her as the dancer who has repeatedly screwed over he year after year after year gets the shittiest partner they would give him the partner that i feel like they had predestined would be the first person to get kicked off like the super old people the people who could barely move it was actually. I really do think a form of racism because he was one of the only black people on the cast and he would get this shittiest partners and this season was no different because he got paired with an hayes who actually ended up being fairly good. But i don't think they thought that she would be and she's still got voted off. I think after the fourth week so poor keo so i'm glad him and chrishell are like having a thing and i think i read that he's actually recently divorced so i don't know pretty messy. I don't know if this is just to get everyone. Oscar shells ask. If she's sick of people thinking that she broke up gloves marriage part of you. Who maybe she was with gleb and keo. Maybe she got to make glove jealous. Who knows i can kenzi saying maybe gloves. An asshole which you know probably tracks. I also saw rumors that he'd also hooked up with eric hygiene and kinda of suss that. They both ended their marriages at the same time. I don't know if you don't watch dancing with the stars you're like i don't really care but i'm telling you it's juicy beyond the dancing maybe give it a try caroline. Calloway posted this week. You know we are big caroline. Calloway talkers on this. I know a lot of you found me through my caroline. Calloway dive which wasn't even as big of a deep dive. As i probably could've done and i probably should have gone in way deeper. But she posted on her instagram this week. And it was a her tits how she was wearing a sheer thing over at. Apparently if your tits out with like a shear layer over at that's fine for nipple guidelines on instagram. Who knew. I wouldn't do it just because i don't have the balls and my parents would never speak to me again. But good on her and speaking of nipples. She was on only fans that we've talked about here before it's the site where it's kind of like a patriotic on on a lot of sex workers because they don't have rules regarding nudity et cetera et cetera. She was one of the top earners on the site the summer and she revealed that she earned over one hundred thousand dollars on only fans just through this one summer of work and with that one hundred thousand dollars. She was able to pay back the debt. She owned a flat iron books now. Flatiron books was the company that agreed to publish her first book and they gave her an advance of one hundred thousand dollars. She ended up not writing the book hence why she owed them that much and it was this big drama. She was contractually bound to them. She couldn't write certain things in her new book scammer because that's so allegedly she says scammer is now going to be the book she's wanted to be scared was supposed to come out in september. I bought a copy. Don't worry guys. I'm not asking for a refund. I still definitely wanna read it but it's a late. let's put it that way. I don't think there's any chance we're getting in two thousand twenty and she's free now though so she's very happy and she says she actually quit onlyfans because she believes that it should be reserved for the sex workers and not for you know pseudo celebs like herself. She didn't say pseudo celeb- but that's what i'm going to say. I think especially after all the bella thorne drama that we talk about on here of illuminated her ideas of how she felt about that so she stepped away from only fans. But i got into a discussion with one of my good friends who i know. Listen to this. I won't say her name just in case she doesn't want to be implicated in an only fans discussion but she is very anti influence or she doesn't think influencers should exist. She doesn't see the purpose of them. I am very pro influence. Our i would love to become an influence or myself escape from the doldrums of the law. You guys know this. If there's any you know podcast network listeners out there who wanted to take me on gimme a venue and maybe a paycheck. I would be attorney. Grateful and i am not turning to onlyfans again. I wish i had the assets and the ability to not be never spoken to again by my family. And then i would consider it. Sorry getting very. I tracked but my friend is against influencers and telling her that i would legitimately like to represent only fans and protect them. Legally if i could think of like my ideal legal job. I want to get out of the law. But i've talked to on here so many times before about how there's these young stars on tiktok etcetera and they get taken advantage of in the entertainment world. They signed contracts that they don't know what they're signing and. I'm not saying that they don't know what they're signing. Obviously they can read it and they know what they're signing but i think sometimes they just don't realize the repercussions of what they're getting into. So i think. I would like to put that into the universe if my whole podcast influence. Our lifestyle doesn't work out. Currently i have a whopping one hundred and seventy-five subscribers on youtube. If you want to go one hundred and seventy six hint hint you can find me at bailey. Evan and remember to follow me on instagram bailey. Evan or it kind of cute podcast and hit me up in the. Dmz took a week off last week. And i really miss you guys. And i just want to hear from me more so reach out. Leave a five star review on apple itunes or wherever you listen you can go to rate this podcast. I'm blanking out if that's actually what it's called. I think it's review this podcast dot com slash kinda cute but don't despair. It's in the show notes for your ease you know. I put everything in the show notes. Alright we finished the undoing this week. And what did you see. I binged. I wasn't watching it as it came out. And i'm kind of glad because it's one of those ones where it always ends on a cliffhanger. You wanna know what happens next. It feels like it should just be kind of like a six hour long movie instead of tv show series and it was a limited series on hbo. Everyone's heard about now like the kardashians are all posting about it. It was starting to call him in and hugh grant now. I have a few thoughts that have nothing to do with the plot. First off. i think this really highlights sexism in hollywood because there are so many damn close ups on nicole kidman ass face literally smoother than my thirty-one-year-old face by a mile five miles just so plump. So many close ups in her really blue eyes. And then you have hugh grant who still looks like a snack but damn does he have some craters of wrinkles in his face so he still gets to be like the sex icon with his crater face and nicole. Kidman has been bo. Talks to the fucking gods. And i'm sorry getting off the undoing really quick. It came out this week. That jaylo said that she has never used bo talks. And i've said on here before. I don't buy it that she uses whatever skin line she's coming out with. I saw her expensive product list. I want to believe her that she's never done bo talks and maybe she truly is that blessed. But i'm telling you. I got bo talks two months ago and these wrinkles are already coming back with a vengeance so i just don't buy it and putting that on the record back the doing the other thing that struck me about this is the stupid opening intro. Can someone please explain me. What the symbolism of that stupid opening us two little girls playing with bubbles like is it. Is it innocence. Is it okay. Kenzi thinks that's great because the girl does have like red hair reddish hair but on top of that nicole. Kidman is singing the theme song which may be supports that theory. That is grace. But it has no relevance to the show. It was kinda creepy. I didn't enjoy watching it. And i'm totally fine. Never having to see it again but if someone can explain to me the deeper symbolism going on there again slide into those. Dm's bay be. There's been some big news in the lgbtq plus community this week ellen page has come out as transgender he is now elliott page and bronwyn on real housewives came out as a lesbian and i believe also read that. Her son is wanting to experiment with makeup. So i don't know if he is actually transgender as well but she's very open with him about doing about a correct me. If i'm wrong on that. I just i read that somewhere and this is my problem. I consume so much shitty pop culture. That i love. Obviously this shitty pop culture podcast. That sometimes the headlines. Get a little melded. Welded bamboozled and my mind. Speaking of bamboozle. -ment let's talk about erika jane embezzling money. Oh wow zor. So i thought maybe she was just sick of having an old crusty shangdong and her face it turns out there might be something more going on here and people are surmising that it was actually a sham. Divorce between eric. Jane and famous layer. Tom girardi to protect themselves against a lawsuit. That accuses them of embezzling funds funds. That were meant for families of the victims of the fatal two thousand eighteen lion air plane crash so a lawsuit was recently filed and it says that it was the divorces sham. It's him to fraudulently protect tom. Air because money from those that seek to collect on debts owed by tom and his law firm now. This is so wild to me because funds for clients cats in a completely different client account. And you can't mel those messes with your attorney funds and you can get disbarred just for that just for like the funds together. And this is saying that they took the settlement money energised using it to fund their life not playing out to the victims of this crash in their families so the lawsuit goes on to say that they are locked in a downward spiral of mounting debts and dwindling funds in the two tens of millions of dollars to clients lenders co-counsel settlement administrators and experts to name only a few and gerardi's firm. Aided in the lawsuit against boeing following the two thousand eighteen indonesian plane crash where a boeing seven thirty-seven crashed into the sea cult. One hundred and eighty nine people and gerardi. Like i've always said he's. This is a quote from the lawsuit. He's widely regarded by his peers as one of the nation's top trial lawyers like he's a big deal in the trial world and it says that variety with the help of his clients held onto a significant portion of that money and potentially all of it sharing with his friends and family innovating attempts from the crash victims to contain to obtain their share. This is from a us aid today. Article that i got this information so that just adds a whole other dimension like i again. I'm thinking she doesn't have a pre-nup she's just trying to live her young sexy life. She's hanging out with gleb she's hanging out with. I read. This is another bizarre headline that. I heard that she was also maybe having an affair with scooter braun which that blows my mind. And we'll get to scooter again in a second but speaking of just like crazy pop culture juicy scoop hailey bieber posted on her instagram saying that she figured out who do as you guys know. I've said it five thousand hundred million times at this point. I'm obsessed with the doom wa instagram account. And i don't want hailey posting this to stop dumas from saying what she says. Because i feel like she might be scared to get out there in the open. If if sloughs are going to reveal who she is and it's interesting because dumas has actually done a fair amount of podcasts. So her voice is out there. I know of other influencers like emily. Gillis who about a lot of back in the fifties episode fifty six. She knows who do. Ma is i think in real life so i just again. I hope this doesn't shutdown dumol. Haley didn't seem antagonistic about it. She said that she felt like she had figured out. Who gossip girl was which i've read in the past that you doesn't necessarily like being compared to gossip girl i think of her more is like a conduit for people to share their stories and not like she's trying to be malicious or share. Gossip is going to bring people down which is deathly what dan humphries was trying to do. Let's be real now moving on back to our boys. Scooter braun so it just. We just heard the very first. Snippet of taylor re recording some of her master's so brian reynolds came to her and asked her if you could use part of her song love story for his match dot com commercial that he directed now. It is a brilliant commercial. If you haven't seen it yet. Satan and the year twenty twenty they match on match dot com which actually now seems like. They must have like a tender like app now. Because i don't know that might be what it's an ad for their moving this more kind of trendy like app world c. n. d. or twenty twenty match. They all these dates together fucking shit up causing havoc love. Story plays in the background. The re recorded version that suit braun does not have rates two zero zero twenty twenty. So are you to me auburn. And there's a scene where there is a scooter. That's fallen down in front of a dumpster and has the number six spray painted on it and they're six albums that scooter bought of taylor's masters so that was very pointed. Dig at him. She really has been open with her. Digs on scooter braun. Recently and i i love it. He deserves it. And i was also watching her. Long pond sessions. We didn't finish all watched a fair amount of it. It's on disney plus and it's kind of like the reputation tour that was on netflix. Where it's like the songs that are played. But then she kind of explains a little bit about them But this one is obviously way more. Scaled-back jack antonoff aaron desma. And they're like in a cabin in upstate. New york or woodstock okay. Okay but isn't woodstock in woodstock in upstate. New york okay. It is long. But i think it's near woodstock doesn't matter. They're in this secluded cabin very cottage core. They're playing the songs. Taylor's talking about. What the song mean. And she reveals what everyone knew what i definitely stated on this podcast. That joe allen is william bowery. Who has to songwriting credits. He did exile and betty on folklore. And she's like yeah. I just heard like joe singing betty in the other room. It was just like this fully formed chorus and i knew that had become a song. And i'm just like really bitch like he's just singing betty and like i feel like she's giving him a little more credit than he may be deserves here but sure jane whatever you say but eleanor. It's very good. She she such an artist and such show writer and poet honestly. And it's it's highlighted when she's talking about her process for writing and i've you know the track at the end of what album. Was it kinsey where she does. She goes through the mocks through her songwriting processes. In one thousand nine hundred nine and She sometimes writes to song. And then she sometimes i like she'll have a sound of music. The actual music part of it. She'll right to that and sometimes she writes first and then. The melody comes in leader. So that's just so wild to me that people can think on that level and right like that. I can't even write like a super little poems. Like put in an e. Invite for a party the fact that she can pump out this many songs. I mean just incredible. Like i'm waiting for the day that someone can inject some creativity in me some humor just something that i can again really pop off on this influence or lifestyle that i'm going for and no one highlights my jealousy of that fact more than the person we are about to talk to and this is our first and only cut article today because the well was dry there was just nothing. I felt like talking about today from the kite. So this article is called the cocky prince of quarantine comedy jordan. I mean instagram. From your impression. It talk sex drugs and getting famous and social isolation by katie. Heaney now for those of you guys who haven't heard of jordan goodman yet. He really came to fame over these impressions. He would do. He would do them by what we call season. So it'd be like a slide show of impressions that he put on his instagram. And that would be like one season. We'd be like one post ten impressions and the one that really pops off and got a lot of attention was one. He did where he was doing. An impersonation of banana breads publicists. Because i think that was something. Everyone could relate to in quarantine. And he's very good at them. They are very funny and this interview just delves into him as a person in at the beginning of this year he broke up with his longtime boyfriend and creative partner and he worked on a show for four years that ended up getting canceled before it even went to be made. Which kind of seems like the deal with entertainment and hollywood says much as i'm like. Yeah yeah like sign me up. I'm also owned my god. I could never i mean. Can you imagine for years of work and down the drain but clearly. It was a blessing in disguise. Because now he has over like eight hundred thousand followers on instagram. He's popping off. Everyone is in love with him. And i heard him on juicy scoop podcasts and he he came across like kind of a dick but i think he. That's almost part of his brand at this point so this article says that five days after his show was killed. There was a song that he wrote to honor. Laura dern and performed by the gay men's chorus of los angeles at the independent spirit award and people wit nuts for it even laura dern and honestly that whole since it's kind of sums up the chaos of this year so and then in february. He says he went to mexico city and did more drugs than i've ever done. And he fucks some really really hot guys get it home. He and then he came back to california. The say at home order came into place. And that's when he turned to his instagram and the impressions were born. That changed his life and this is just like some of his quotes in. This is why. I wanted to talk about this article. He says the break-up changed my face and made me really hot. And then katie rights. It's true that though he deleted most photos from before two thousand and twenty. What's left in two thousand nineteen shows a more self conscious. Selfie taker less photogenic settings twenty twenty jordan is hot and does hot girl shit. I'm cocky and that's what repels people. But i'm also warm and real. I feel like. I'm always bringing people forward and backward at the same time deep so a lot of slobs love him. Harry styles even followed him. I think one point. Maybe he's still does jennifer aniston chrissy teagan and he talks about how he was actually dropped for the second time by a therapist because he would cancel on his therapist to frequently and he says i needed him so bad but i figured it out. I had the mushroom trip. I got a lot out of that and his trip. I'm really saad. i missed this. But apparently he documented this trip on instagram but an instagram took it down. And i swear. This year is the year of taunting me about doing mushrooms. I'm not going to go into it again. You guys know very much how i feel about the shrooms. But i feel taunted and the article also mentions his architectural digest home tour that was featured in the magazine. So you know. I love eight home tour and holy shit guys. This is just his rental and he put so much effort into it and he says he will only spent twenty five thousand dollars. Which i get is a shit ton of money but you guys don't understand that i spent twenty five thousand dollars unlike the boring shit in my house that no one even sees like replacing my hundred year old electrical wires. No one gives a shit about this. Well jordan i meant. Has this lake deck. I don't even know what's called pop deco palace. He describes it as a info coming from miami neon jungle which honestly is probably the aesthetic is by too. I think i would go really well with my west palm lifestyle. He has for built in bed. It looks like a white gritty the mascot. If you don't know a gritty looks like please look him up. It looks like if gritty just like got really overweight and exploded over a bed and was also white. I know that sounds bizarre. But i'm telling you if you look up the bed and you look gritty. You will know what i'm saying. But i'm so into it. He has a cloud. What well. yeah because it's white can this is no. It looks cleaner than gritty. 'cause grittiest orange okay. She says greedy looks matted. I love gritty. Okay anyways he also has a cloud mural. I threw a cloud for party. Clouds are very much my aesthetic. You ever want to get me a gift in. That's cloud themed. I wouldn't turn it down and guys that is sadly are only cut article from today. I'd like to say that. After my week off i really came out of the gates. Swinging really brought some quality content. You guys but i. I don't think i can say that. So let's just move on to our legit shit for the day now. I'm thinking leading up to christmas. It could be kind of fun to share some items. That i don't own yet but that are on my wishlist and again as much as i would like you to send me cloud things i and not actually asking for these socks because i already asked my parents for these socks and my parents still by me presence. Even though i'm turning thirty two this year yes again. I realize i am spoiled and fittingly. These are called. The brother vellies cloud socks and they're from a brand. That makes the most gorgeous shoes elena. And i saw these boots like years ago. She saw them for. She took me to the store just to see them. I hadn't even heard a brother vellies at that. Point the coolest fucking boots you've ever seen there like a thousand dollars but one of these days i'm gonna own some brother vellies boots and it's a black owned business and these socks so you can get for thirty five dollars which again expensive for a sock but the only thing i can afford on that site so check them out. They look so comfy. Everyone raise a house off. They are. I asked for them in oaten sky. But there's like fifteen colors to choose from literally all gorgeous. I hope you enjoyed this episode. And i will see you next week bye.

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Restaurants Have Slow Recovery and the Pirates of the Highway

The Daily Dive

22:15 min | 1 year ago

Restaurants Have Slow Recovery and the Pirates of the Highway

"Iheartradio and state farm know the graduation stage is the first of many, and while grads may not be walking across one this year. They can get the send-off. They've always dreamed of with our new podcast commencement, featuring inspiring speeches from the biggest names like John Legend Katie. COURIC and cashew listened iheartradio new podcast commencement brought to you by state farm speeches are now available on iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcasts and remember state farm will be there for this stage and every stage after like a good neighbor, state farm is there. It's Tuesday may twenty six I'm Oscar Ramirez in Los? Angeles and this is the daily Diet. act. As the country's continues to reopen business. One of the hardest hit industries will still have a difficult time recovering. Restaurants will see a long slow ramp up back to the way things work real time. Industry data is showing that while people are starting to get out there. Restaurants are only seeing a fraction of the business. They used to have partly due to capacity. Limits were social distance. The estimates are still dire as to whether some businesses can remain open after the comeback Jordan Weisman senior economics reporter at slate joins us for more. Next, we'll tell you about the pirates of the highway. Either stealing big trailers, oftentimes without even knowing what's in them hoping for a big score. In one case, the two men made off with thirty thousand dollars of canned corn. The operations in stealing these trailers range from getting lucky and picking up unattended trailer to elaborate schemes and paying off low level workers for tips on cargo and location, Dylan Taylor Layman writer and narrative. Joins how these highway pirates are making off with precious cargo. News without the note, let's dive in. It's a fraction of our normal restaurant revenue, and they'll be cars lined up out front to to pick up their branches, but Um. It's really sad to see. The chairs piled up and the tables pulled away and no one dining. no-one bellied up to to the bar. Jordan Weisman senior economics at sleet. Thanks for joining US Jordan. Hey. Thanks for having me on. One of the talk about restaurants and how they're going to be fairing, as states are reopening I think all fifty states now are starting to reopen in some capacity. The restaurant scene is varying obviously state by state, but the restaurant industry really one of the hardest hit industries in this whole corona virus pandemic. There's been a lot of who have managed to stay open, just doing delivery and takeout, but there's a ton of other restaurants who closed throughout this. This and might never reopen. And as we're seeing some states reopening, we're getting some headlines and some good shots of people actually making out to restaurants, but it could be a little misleading. We get a lot of real time data from the industry from places like table and other places to do analysis on restaurants and people eating out, and the numbers aren't all really. They're just yet, so Jordan tell us a little bit about what's going on with restaurants. You know thing I want to say is before you even get into the numbers, so people actually. Why do we care so much about restaurants? Specifically right? A lot of different small businesses are hurting right now. Why is it such a big deal? How the food industry is doing and one very simple and not technical answer to that is people like to eat out like restaurants or a huge part of just like the cultural fabric of cities and towns, and they're apart. What makes going out on a? A weekend fun people care about these David deep emotional attachment restaurants, but also their economic reasons to care about this industry. It's a huge employer. More than six hundred thousand full service restaurants in the country have been essentially shut down some capacity or another partially or entirely because of this crisis there are millions of jobs attached to them and the more of these businesses that go bust that don't make it through this crisis or its immediate aftermath, the longer. It's GonNa take for the whole economy to heal. Heal, the more small businesses that disappear and can't bring their workers back the longer it's GonNa. Take us to crawl out of this whole. We've ended up and so it's important how quickly restaurants can recover and at the same time you have to balance their concerns. Their business with health issues right? So what we're seeing is that yeah, they're all these stories about how in Georgia, restaurants and someplace getting packed again. Then how you know in Texas, you're seeing people show up at diners and stuff but if If? You actually look at the numbers. They're not quite as encouraging. You mentioned open table, which is actually a surprisingly useful data source right now because they track obviously reservations made on their platform, but they also track walking diners and people may phone reservations because people run restaurants, use the software for a bunch of different tasks, and they'll tell you that right now. The number of diners at restaurants in places like Georgia are still down about eighty percent in Florida same thing in Oklahoma which is doing. Doing as well as anyone that's closer to percents, and you can look at other data sources to. There's credit card activity data that suggests that twenty to twenty five percent of restaurants, part and I rarely closed in places like Texas and Alabama and Arizona which has been a lot of fanfare about how these states are reopening began. That's a fifth to a quarter of restaurants. They're not doing any business at all. Not even doing takeout again. There's this one company called Toast, which is essentially a point of. Of sales software provider you know when you go, and so if your credit card at a restaurant, they are the ones who are recording your sale or recording. What was charged on your check? According to their data total spending year-over-year at the twelve early bird states I refer to them in my teeth are still down forty four percent again total spending a restaurants down forty four percent year over year in states that have reopened early. It's gradually recovering, but those are not the kind of numbers that are. are going to stay in business if that continues a lot of them are not going to survive the reopening and a big part of that obviously is the social distancing measures that are put in place. Restaurant is not gonNA be able to fill to capacity anytime soon. Just looking at kind of where all the states stand right now there's a handful of states that are letting restaurants open at fifty percent capacity, but the vast majority of them are either twenty five or thirty three percent capacities, which you. You can have in there so a lot of times. These restaurants depending on how many covers they have throughout the night are throughout the day. They're barely meeting the expectations that they need to keep the restaurant open it and to make any type of profit there, so these capacity limits are going to be hurting them for some time to come leading. It's going to be long slow recovery for them. Because they're not going to be able to hit that scheme very quickly, a restaurant can handle having. HASTA three quarters of its tables empty on Monday night. It cannot handle it if that's every Friday Saturday and Sunday they will not survive that way. It's that clear and simple, and so the question is. How long will these social distancing measure to have the same place with Public Health? My guess is probably for a while even in places where the number of infections is fairly low, people are nervous. Nervous they want these protections in place, and so do the local officials, and then second is what else can they do to make money? One option that's promising is to expand the amount of outdoor seating for the summer seems to be. What I'm told has happened in South Carolina which is probably having one of the quickest recovery's right now. Restaurants in Charleston or being given a lot of sidewalks. Sidewalks space, and that's allowed them to start making up business a little bit quicker, but to me. It seems pretty obvious that they're going to have to be some longer. Term Sport Program some government in order to all these businesses survive, or at least tread water until things get a little bit more favorable for them so far what the data's showing is! That is kind of a good news. News Bad news scenario. It's good news that the states are reopening their restaurants. People are getting out there, although not to the capacity that we wanted to just yet, but on the flip side, the bad news is that how long can these restaurants be sustainable that way and in a lot cases? It doesn't seem that they will be able to survive, so it's a tough balance that needs to. Even, go further. Say Part of the good news here is also that it doesn't seem like people are being too irresponsible, right? We've seen all those pictures of and I guess video crowds running back to Brunch or whatever, but it doesn't seem like that's the norm places or not packed to capacity, businesses and diners are gradually returning to the dinner table, and so that's not a bad thing. If you're worried about public health, just the question is since everyone is worried about public health. Nobody wants to take crazy risks. How do we make sure that these vital businesses that we all love and cherish? 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Your school will count you if you didn't visit twenty. Two Thousand Census Dot Gov to be counted. To in one of their otherwise typical scouting operations, they saw unattended trailer just as we described at a truck, stop hooked up to and drove away and ended up being I. Don't know if it was eighteen thousand cans of corn or something like that, but just yeah, it was a trailer. Four canned corn intended for a food bank joining us now, dealing Taylor Lehman staff writer at negatively. Thanks for joining US Dylan. Yeah. Absolutely thank you very much. So your story called the pirates of the highways, and it looked like fun re in my head right away I started thinking hard fast, and the furious parts storage wars, only in the fact that the story is about people who steal truck trailers, these big eighteen wheeler truck loads, and it's kind of this crap crapshoot, because they don't really know what's inside of it until they get away with it and open it and then try to sell the contents, and then it's not so much like. where, there's high speed cars doing the thefts on the road. It's a little different than that. These are the things that are swirling around in my head, so dylan wonder bring you WanNa? Talk a little bit about this. This has been an ongoing problem forever. Really, but you had a few stories about how this is going on, and it was just an interesting look into all this, so start us off deal and tell us about some of these highway pirates. Just to say I. Don't want to discount the possibility that there are some really cool. Hotak action movie style. As I'm sure they are, but just by and large. It's a little bit more low key than that and so yeah, the research I did and some of the detectives industry people I talked to. It seems like the most common trailer theft is just as you described. People will see an unintended trailer in a parking lot truckstop, whatever and just link up to and drive away then kind of figure out what's in their later and talking to a long haul trucker. He mentioned that. That people know what they're doing especially. If you have a team going I mean you can hook up and leave within a matter of two minutes literally, so if you know what you're doing and know how to kind of make those disappear, you know it seems like the payoff can be pretty substantial, so the first major question is why would a trailer full goods whether we'll get to later whether it's canned corn or cell phones or other electronics? Why would it be left unattended? As thievery increases, this is kind of a practice that I think the industry is starting to discourage if not clamped down on entirely, but people especially in smaller areas will leave trailers unintended if they're driving their cab home for the weekend, or if they're getting it serviced, or if they're have another load takes precedent, so it's not really that out of the ordinary from what I understand to in an otherwise. Secure trustworthy place just leave your trailer and then come pick it up when you're ready to make that whole so I think it's just kind of a practice out of convenience, but I think people are starting to realize that there may be some consequences there, and there are some other more organized ways that this is happening, and we'll get to those in a minute, but specifically talking about these trailers that are left maybe on the side of the road or at a truck stop. Stop or something you started off your article with the story about an uncle and nephew duo who did this some years ago and they're big hall ended up being a whole truck worth of green giant canned corn. Let's I kind of chuckled about it and said it was part storage wars. They didn't know what it was until they got away with it. I guess their whole was about thirty thousand dollars, so tell US quickly about that story and kind of what happened in them. Understanding that somebody is still thirty. Thousand Dollars Worth of Candy, Gordon was a pretty appealing story to look into when I was researching some relatively recent cargo theft that happened twenty thirteen, and as you mentioned, it was an uncle on a nephew who had been essentially jacking trailers for the past ten years in various law, enforcement agencies were onto them, and so one of their otherwise typical scouting operations. They saw unattended trailer just as we had described truckstop, hooked up to and drove away ended up being I. Don't know if it was eighteen thousand cans of corn or something like that, but just yeah, it was a trailer. Four canned corn intended for a food bank. And from what I understand that that may seem like a you kind of got the short end of the stick. They're stealing canned corn, but it turns out that food pet, food, and other relatively small scale items are actually a little easier to move in these networks, the black market networks so something untraceable like that and relatively inexpensive can still yield some pretty handsome returns. Yeah, even the trailer, if it had been completely empty or something would have been worth it like seventy five hundred dollars to them if they wanted to sell it off. Somehow the police report noted definitely the value the trailer in. In a few miscellaneous other bits of equipment that were there I mean this happens so often that there's actually police forces task forces that are designed to handle these things in two thousand fifteen I like this. There was a string of a snack nut heists where there was about thirty one heist. Costing cares more than five million dollars, so this is kind of happening throughout the years obviously, but still happening with some regularity, we all know the unfortunate high prices of this dashes. A cashier so not only is that perhaps a viable target to begin with, but the reason why there is that surgeon. For he was because there was droughts and various shortages that did make them you know in even more valuable commodity than normal and so rings, thieves, obviously attuned to the markets, were able to coordinate thefts of items that were pretty valuable at that point in time, so then ankle and nephew duo that stole the thirty thousand dollars worth of canned corn. The FBI was Kinda hot on their trail. They had been doing this for some time. They were caught in all. What time did they face for this? From what I understand, you're crossing state lines, so that's. A, much more serious crime, which is the FBI and US marshals get involved as opposed the ringleader who used to be a professional trucker himself, which is I guess probably how he figured out how to make all this happen. The ended up getting about ten years, and he still is in prison, and his nephew, and his son, who were also involved or sentenced I think around four and a half years, and since been released, but they also included in these indictments were there implicated in a number of other high, so it all kind of compounded? Compounded together. Let's talk a little bit about some of the other ways. These truck heists happen a lot of times. They're inside jobs. It might be a guy who works at shipping yard or something. You throw him a little bribe. Few Hundred Bucks to let you know where the shipment might be something like that that way you can follow that truck driver. Follow the trailer and then go from there, so tell us kind of how it's being done right now. There's also people looking up on message boards and doing a little detective work for themselves. This information was thanks to a guy who works for Major Logistic Sperm, coordinating all the shipping, and as you can probably imagine oftentimes when they're shipping truckloads, full cell phones, computer, equipment, or medicine or something very valuable, they certainly make a point to obscure. What's actually inside, and so in those instances as you mentioned, there is an inside man or somebody who has knowledge of where those specific trailers and where they're heading and so yeah, they'll coordinate and that way, or if you're good at talking your way into things you can. Forge paperwork and charm your way into picking up loads that were intended for other people by pretending to be those people. I mean they're certainly a lot of creative. In fairly complex ways, steel trailer is in addition to just hooking up with them and dragging them away, and there's a lot of money at stake throughout all of this, you wrote about a twelve member Louisville based outfit that we're doing these cargo thievery things across ten states I guess in the three or four years that they were operating, they stole up to thirty million dollars worth of. Of cargo and what they were doing, they were following drivers until they might have stopped and took a break or something like that, and then they'd hijack the truck at that point, and that was led to changes in the industry I. Guess they say you know if you pick up load, you gotta drive at least two hundred miles. It's about four or five hours or so before stopping to deter somebody that might be following you. Certainly tracking GPS devices on trailers are much more robust, locking mechanisms and various other practices. When you do have to leave a trailer, a lot of carriers will require that you do that. In a registered location secured by a number of fences or even backing your trailer up against the wall, so nobody can open the door, and it seems fairly obvious that all trailer should be outfitted with tracking equipment, but as somebody I was talking to. You explain you know there. There are tens of millions of trailers out there, and so for these mega carriers to retrofit all them with security devices and GPS that's just not possible or not financially viable, so yeah, there are still going to be some vulnerabilities for sure. The most recent example that you mentioned in your article happened just three days after Christmas this past year in two, thousand, nine, hundred eighteen. Tell us a little bit about that I mean the guys ended up getting caught, but But I think they were stealing from like a military family or something like that. One of the guys worked for a moving company who had coordinated a Trans National Movement of three military families, so three families worth and belongings in the struck the guy. A The moving company knew that that was there, and so drove off with it, and for better or worse I guess he ended up stashing a lot of the goods in his own house so once they kind. kind of figured out who it was and where he had gone, you know his entire house was filled with these other people's belongings, and I don't know if he was arrested while riding a motorcycle that was taken from the truck, or that was also in the possession, but that was another fairly obvious that this guy has accomplice were involved with stealing this entire trailer finally caught up to They had a bunch of boxes. Eletronics bikes things like that and yeah. They were taking the family, so yeah, no, it's just an interesting look into what happens and how these kind of truck thefts are happening. Trailer thefts are happening. There's a lot of other little nuggets in the story that that are pretty fun to go through and read so I. Suggest everybody. Check out Dylan's article there for anybody WHO's interested in checking out some of the? Written both narrative and other publications, please feel free to check out my blog at the yawning chasm dot com and I'd also like to just get a heads up that I have a book coming out on June. Nine is called Zealand true story of the world's most stubborn micro nation and its eccentric royal family, and that is about the world's foremost micro nation, which is in a country that was founded on an. Fort in the middle of the North Sea and just the five plus decades of piracy and adventures, and just overall madness taken place in the name of this tiny country, so that'll be out on June nine police by the version press. Dylan Taylor Layman writer at narrative. Thank you very much for joining us. Absolutely. It was a blast. Thank you very much. That's it for today. Join US on social media at the bottom both twitter and instagram. Comment give us a rating. Tell us the XETRA interest in. Heart radio or subscribe wherever you get your podcast. This episode of the daily divers produced by right and engineered by Tony Soaring Tina. I'm Oscar Miras this? Daily died. October Sixteenth Nineteen seventy-two to congressman. Vanish on a small plane in Alaska. Despite a massive search they're never found. The case goes cold. That is until I. Start Researching it. I'm standing right. Portage Pass and Alaska. 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"Today's episode is brought to you by Mazda. The joy of being alive comes from what we discover on our journey and with the first ever Mazda C thirty. There's inspiration within every mile traveled it spirited performance and available predictive all-wheel-drive heightened your senses like no vehicle. You've ever experienced with ample cargo space and available off road. Traction assist the X. Thirty s perfect for a weekend getaway destination wherever engineered like nothing else to feel like nothing before experienced the premium Mazda C X thirty at your local dealership. Mazda feel alive. You're listening to math and magic production iheartradio welcome to math and magic stories from the frontiers of marketing. Today we're going to hear some of my favorite stories from this season of math and magic with lessons we can all use. I'm sure you know I love radio. It's where I started my career and it's my love for audio. Brought me to IHEART. Radio can be transformative for the listener but also for the on air personalities. Here's the story of how Charlemagne the God discovered his talent radio and started a new chapter in his life. You had a lot of problems in school. You Graduate High School. You had some run INS with the law. You tried a number of jobs. I working at a clothing store. Telemarketing Agency Flower Garden. Your sister hired. You had I guess fired you at Taco Bell for two weeks for for not taking it seriously. Then you discovered radio For we get to that though why the bad times. I'm sure you had some explanations then but looking back now. What do you think it was about? What lessons did you take from that? It was really just about wanting to fit in. When you're not getting what you need at home you will get it from the street and it's not like the love was real indiscreet you know. It just made me feel good to be accepted. If my father wasn't dealing with the DNC was dealing with and he probably would have embraced me a little bit more and gave me confidence I needed and you know that courage I needed and just empowered me. I probably would have gone to crews the way that I did. What did you take away in terms of your life now from that experience nothing? It was nothing beneficial about being in that situation. You have a bunch of skills that you really don't need. I don't need to know how to sell drugs. I don't need to know how to carry a firearm. Without carrying it illegally back then anyway like none of what I went through then serves me and my adult life other than the have those experiences and when I'm talking to young men that grew up in these areas I can relate to them in a different way and they can look at me and they can say oh well you know. He went to a lot of the same things that I went through. When I thought it'd be a lot of my friends going to jail guys around me actually get in prison sentences and people around me actually getting killed and cousins that I used to look up to. They really were two cousins. That were doing everything that I was doing. Previously and they ended up broke under the tree strung out on drugs or alcohol. Whatever it was. That was a wakeup call for me at a very young age to say. I don't want to end up like that so more important than why did Radio Click with you? I was really just looking for something positive to do. I started working a lot of odd jobs. I worked at the close called Demo in the mall I worked at Taco Bell. I worked at this factory industrial acoustics. I worked at a telemarketing place. Where I used to be the guy that I would call you out and try to sell you. Twelve CDs for a penny. Did you ever do? Oh yeah excessively. I wanted to ask a new music. That was a gift I had. I knew music's I knew what was good and my mother would tell me rethink that. Don't pertain me. I would always listen to things. That don't pertain to me. So I knew everything from Johnny cash to fleetwood MAG to new Jay Z. Like I knew all of it and so I would just know how to sell these things to these people. I WANNA rap out in this recording studio and I met a Guy. His name was Willie Will. He was a radio. Personality got a local station in Charleston Causes Ninety jams and I just asked him. I said you. How'd you get into radio? And he was like. I wonder and I got an internship and I'm like is that easy like I don't have to be in school or anything and he was like nine mighty since one thousand nine hundred eighty eight in Charleston South Carolina's. The things are a lot different now. So that's what I did. I went down there the next day and I feel about the internship. Application inmate hired me as an intern in the promotions department. And that's how I got my foot in the door but I guess this is one of the ways that you could say. Discreet helped me because being at the radio station at the time. Oh somebody who's got one a week so I would have the we've for them and they would always want me around like they would always request me. Oh I want to drive me to this remote are IOS. I'll let me when you had come to the studios. I would just be in studio being a fly on the wall. Just sitting there watching everybody do their job and then sometimes they would call me in and asked me my opinion on things and I would just talk and the music director days name was wrong. White Ron why it was like yo you thought about being on radio and I was like no but I am. Now like yeah. I'll show I'll try it as they made me voice track one Sunday morning from eleven. Am TO TWO PM. And I did that for a few weeks. And they immediately cut that out because it was Sunday morning in Charleston South Carolina and I was a bit too much that Bible Belt so they started putting me on Saturdays seven pm to midnight and voice tracked from seven to ten and then from ten to twelve. I will go live and I think the best thing that ever happened to me was. I did not have any radio skills. Nobody taught me the traditional way to do radio so I would just be talking about. Go back and let's not tear. I was yelling and screaming and I'm answering the phone and we just was kicking it like we would kick it. You know in the hood and it became very popular in a very short amount of time. One day in doing overnights said to myself. I love this. I've never felt passionate about anything before that. I just knew this is what I WANNA do for the rest of my life. So what advice do you have for those people who want to be the next you? That's where you fail. You fail by trying to be the next anything. You she truly. Just be self greet to be inspired like I was inspired by a lot of radio personalities but I would have failed tremendously trying to beat any of them. The beauty life is that we are all blessed to be our own individual unique personality. That's why DNA different than everybody else. If you really tap into who you are and your experiences in what you've been through you can deliver a story that people can relate to but nobody else has been through so I wouldn't ever tell you don't WanNa be like me 'cause you can't be because you haven't gone through what I've gone to. You're not from where I'm from. You're not me be yourself genuinely be yourself your authentic self and I think that you will be A. Okay and you'll be a personality that people WANNA listen to. Charlemagne is truly one of a kind and I'd love that he's part of the IHEART family another media pioneer I talked with is Jerry Lee born the first president of Nickelodeon and a media innovator. She found her calling creating television for children and she shared her story becoming one of the first female executives in television. You had a Boston nickelodeon before. You're the boss. What did you learn from that boss? He was a very conventional top down manager. I don't think we had a single team meeting the whole time. He was vice president of Nickelodeon. I was the first president thank you. He had low expectations. He sent all of our good creative problems. Take old crony friends outside. And he didn't encourage us to work together. I actually kept a notebook of what I would not do when I got to be the boss so when you gave me the opportunity. I don't know if you remember this but you kind of looked at me and said I don't know what you can do but let's see and it wasn't like okay. You're now the executive vice president of Nickelodeon and it was just. I know enough not to get rid of you. Let's see what you can do. Oh my God. Nothing could be better than that. Just a straight on challenge. I took the twenty people that were working for Nickelodeon off to a conference room and we put all the things we knew about nickelodeon. Here's what's not working. Here's what's working. And at the end of the day. I knew which people were going to be on the team in which we're not. I fired seven people. We needed to be a rebellion. We were taking back. Nickelodeon for kids after the switch to add support in nineteen eighty four and the relaunch nickelodeon the Twain Channel. You really struck gold. Can you talk a little bit about one? What that felt like and to why you think nickelodeon caught on like that. Well first of all it helps to be the first to have really no competition and to be true to your audience. We literally did not put anything on the air. That hadn't been tested with kids and we were adventuresome. We had some big flops. I remember promising you the moon with Turkey TV was going to be comedy clips like MTV for kids and the day it arrived on Memorial Day. Weekend nine thousand nine hundred eighty five. It was even worse than video dream theater. My son who at this point was. Ken just started to stop. This is horrible you will never work in TV again. I called everybody back to the office and we spent six days reediting everything you let me off the hook on that. Well one thing we all know is you. Don't come close to getting a hundred percents fact. It's the big flops. Your take the chances. And we worked for him Steve. Ross who ran warner communications. And then Time Warner and Steve used to say you know Bob around here you number of fire from making mistake you'll be fired for not making a mistake. Sure I'm making mistakes tells me try anything new and that was our life-blood but it was just so much fun and the other thing was if you were working at Nickelodeon you really had to like kids. I had this trick question which I would ask any employee probably illegal. What were you like as a kid and they tell you everything how they get along with their siblings. How they're going to work in a team and what they care about. Let's talk a minute about how it was to be a woman in this very big job in this very highly visible environment. Well I had this boss Bob. Pittman the first day that I was invited into the executive suite. There were only four of us. Tom Preston you Bob. Bergen County and May. I made my husband quiz me for four hours about sports metaphors. It was terrifying to me and I come in and the first sports metaphor that I could possibly come up with. I came up with and of course I us tennis metaphor in a basket ball court and you looked at Man. Said you can skip that. We have you here for what you know. And I don't care about sports we want you to be you. You have no idea how incredibly empowering that was and if men would do that they would get such better results. But it wasn't that hard for me. You wanted me to be the nerdy caring creative loving head and you encouraged me to make mistakes. And you didn't hold grudges. Let's talk about building companies building teams. What kind of culture do you need to have a building situation? Will you need different thinkers at the table you need people who art strategic and he people who are creative you need people who are tactical and you need to make sure that they feel comfortable giving voice to their point of view and that in fact the team depends on them? Debbie? Bc was of the Fred Cyber School. You're wrong and I'm gonNA tell you why that's the best thing for a dreamer like me to have. He couldn't have a better relationship. We all had this philosophy that our responsibility was to make sure everybody at the table. Getting a we had a program called the pit program presidents in training so everybody my executive team were presidents training. And I promised them if you come in here and look at our problems from up. Here we will all learn to be presidents together. And you won't all be president of Nickelodeon but you'll get to be president of something and many of them did. They did stay right there. We'll be back after a quick break. I am Bob Zip as you probably know. Time and place is everything especially marketing but in today's age of a million messages per minute and not enough hours in the day. How do you really catch people's attention? Fortunately there's a simple way linked can help you speak to the right professionals. At the right time linked ads driving traffic and engagement. 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Welcome back to math and magic and today's episode. We're picking some of the best stories of how great business leaders got where they are today. I've always believed that. You make your own luck Bobby Brown founder of Bobbi Brown cosmetics and host the beyond the beauty. Podcast told me the story of how she grew her startup. Cosmetics company by capitalizing on every Opportunity Tillerson late eighties early nineties. She began to make your own makeup. How did that start will not in my kitchen? People said they started making their kitchen. I did a shoot for magazine. I think. It was Mademoiselle magazine. The story was actually on me. How a makeup artist shops in New York City for off the beaten path makeup? We went to kills Nice Guy. Behind the counter. He's a chemist. I started talking to him about this lipstick. I can't find and he's like oh I can make it for you. I said really and I told her exactly what I wanted. He made it sent back a couple of times not right to dry the color and I said all right. These are the ten colors that I think all that you need really to get any color out there and he said about this. I'll make the lipstick you sell. It will sell for fifteen dollars. You get seven fifty. Get SOME FIFTY THOUGHT. Great idea and he made them for me and we started selling them out of my house. By the time you debuted and Bergdorf Goodman in New York by Nineteen ninety-one you'd figure something out well. Do you know how I figured it out. I want to hear that I was in the elevator in my then apartment in New York and there was only elevator and I said hello and she said hello and I said my name's bobby. Her name was Sharon and I said what do you do? She said I work at a lab a cosmetics lab. I said really. Do you have a card and that lab. Still makes the lipsticks today. That is true story. You debuted and Bergdorf Goodman right. They estimated they would sell one. Hundred Lipsticks in the first month. Instead they sold the hundred in the first day. Yes did that surprise you. Oh it was pretty cool but at the time I had one baby. I was commuting back and forth from New Jersey to New York. I was still working as a makeup artist. My husband was in law. School money was tight. Everything was kind of a Blur. You had to scramble. Obviously to get more and BERGDORF must've said wait a minute. We gotta hit here. Let's give the shelf space right. Well we were originally on a table and the only reason we're on a table is because they didn't have any counter space people now think it was a brilliant marketing idea. And it was in retrospect and then they said okay. We need pencils. We need I pencil so we slowly started adding and it grew the Neiman. Marcus called and said we'd love to take you enforce stores and then Barnes called and then bengals called. We didn't have a sales person to go sell it. That's pretty good when it sells itself because it was different than what was on the market and it was really hitting a nerve and I think the combination of having this product. That actually didn't really look like makeup. That was out there. Just major looked better. It didn't smell. It felt good. It wasn't greasy. It wasn't dry. Women looked pretty. It was a more natural look. It's what people wanted and at the same time not because there was a strategy but the makeup artists to make for the fashion shows so I got to talk about the Trends Roy. I was also on the today show. I got to talk about it and everything together look like brilliance. But it was just really good luck of true. You made your luck. Let's go back Gopher Goodman. How did you get the introduction? It's going to sound like I make this up but I was at a party. Someone's Fancy Party in New York City and I said thank you for inviting me. My Name's Bobby I said. What do you do and she said? I'm a cosmetics buyer Jordan Goodman. I'm not even kidding. Wow and give you money to put on the Roulette table for me. I think we do very well there. So you've been a big success by almost every measure of success family financial work fame excetera. I know there are a lot of folks listening who are building their careers today. What advice would you give them? I would first of all say there is no rush. I help a lot of young entrepreneurs that I'm friends with and they always seem like it has to be done now. Oh my God has to be done. Only got series A. Series B. I don't even know guys calm down. You got to build a brand people think that the whole idea of building brands is to sell it and make a lot of money. No build a brand you love. It takes time. It's like a baby. You gotTA nurture it Building a brand new love is great advice for entrepreneurs but for proctor and gamble building brand is also about staying true to your values in my conversation with Mark Pritchard chief brand officer of PNG. We talked about some of his most impactful campaigns and how they pushed his brand forward. I want to talk a little bit about the view of this company and I want to go back in time back to when you were. Gm of the covergirl business and you had an epiphany about the broader impact. You can have on culture. It had an immediate effect on the easy breezy beautiful ad campaign very well known at that time. Can you tell us what led to that accompany? And how it changed you. What I was doing at the time I was a general manager of covergirl business which is both more than my white betsy and our three daughters who are all under the age of ten went to place called Wind River ranch up in the Colorado rockies it was a spiritual ranch nondenominational spiritual ranch because I was born Catholic. My wife Jewish. My Dad was alcoholics anonymous so we had a higher power and he was also there with us when we were there the spiritual leader at the very end of it came up to me and said you know mark you really can make a big difference in the world because you're in business. The greatest force for good in the future is going to be business. It's not going to be clergy. It's not going to the government is going to be business if you choose to do so you can do a lot of good. We've just introduced these e breezy beautiful cover go campaign and I literally. It was an epiphany where I thought. Oh Wow the effect that we have on. The Standard of beauty is profound. We're essentially portraying what we do is the standard of beauty. And unfortunate time the spokespeople we had were too young to skinny and two white and I sat there and looked at my ten year old daughters and I said I have an obligation to do the right thing and I knew then that when you didn't make change we brought in Queen Latifah. We brought an Mellon generous. Sofia Vergara Pink Janelle monae. We became divers. We moved to a standard of beauty that came from within as opposed to externally and it was really a very profound moment. Because I realized how much impact advertising can have on people's perceptions and that was really the start of what we're doing now at that moment. What was the reaction internally from the consumers and from the AD industry well at first when I went back and talk to our agencies of the time. They're like whoa wait a minute. No no no no no no. That's not what women want to see. They don't WanNa see themselves? They WANNA see other people who are the quote better version of themselves I said No. No no no no no. We need to try. We can do something. That's better thankfully Alice Eriksson. Who was the creative director at the time did a magnificent job and she's the one who really along with the other team brought in Queen Latifah. That really is what transformed that campaign and that brand. What was the reaction internally when you came back with this tiffany you know internally people got it. They got it pretty quickly. They thought you know this is something we can do and we went for it. It really unlocked a lot of creativity. Png's accused company but it has a heart. You might actually expect from a nonprofit. You talk a little bit about where this came from. But I'd like to hit a couple of the things you've done and are doing just to get a little context on love over bias. Can you give us a minute? On that. Low over bias was our last Olympic ad which was turn to shine the light on the bias that exists in the world and then imagine what the world can see if they looked at it through mom's eyes and looked people through mom's is it was just a brilliant add. It was one of the best we've never done. It was also directed by Oma Hurrell. Who is you may know. Founded free the work. Just a brilliant director gave just such a touch to it. That was just phenomenal. That really helped build our business at the same time. Were you able to measure it? In any way impact. It had on changing attitudes primarily the way we measured that one is through just the sentiment that it provided the reactions that we've got an ad is really brilliant or a piece of work is really brilliant. It does amplify and get carried. You've been vocal advocate for pay equality. I think my numbers are right about forty. Five percent of the managers of the company are now women. How would he seven percent forty seven? Sorry I was an old numbers. How did the company do that? What was the process to get there? Because I think there's a lesson in that for a lot of other companies that are wrestling with the same issue. A big part of that came from leadership. When I started there were not many women managers but the leadership at the time. John Smale then eventually John Pepper and others. So diversity is important and that led to over time now at the forty seven percent and we're seeking to get fifty percent or leadership still today. David Taylor is absolutely adamant about the power of diversity and overtime what we also found. Bob was that diversity is not only the right thing to do. It's the smart thing to do when it comes to building business. The most diverse companies the most diverse teams tend to do better as gender. It's racist this ity it's sexual and gender identity its ability religion and age and we look at things now on intersectional basis because it's intersectional phone is important. A big part of that is because that's who we served we serve all humanity so therefore our companies to reflect humanity so were deliberately focusing on that. We're not going to be at but we're absolutely delivered about making a difference there. That's it for today's episode of Math and magic. Hope you picked up some valuable insight. We'll be back to our regularly scheduled series next week with another guest from the frontlines of marketing. Until then. I'm Bob Pittman. Thanks for listening. Thanks so much for listening to math and magic a production of iheartradio. The show is hosted by Bob. Pittman special thanks to sue Schillinger for booking and wrangling are wonderful talent. Which is no small feat Nikki tour for Pulling Research Bill Plaques and Michael as our for recording help our editor Ryan Murdoch and of Course Gale Raoul Eric Angel. Mango and everyone. Who helped bring this show to your ears until next time? Are you confident? You've got the right numbers at your fingertips. I'm Bob Pittman. I'm here to tell you that serious entrepreneurs and finance teams run on that suite by Oracle. The world's number one cloud business system. It's time to quit flying blind and unlike growth for your business with net sweet schedule your free demo right now and receive your free guide. Seven key strategies to grow your profits go to net sweet dot com slash math. That's net sweet dot com slash math.

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93: Micro-quasar Blasting Gamma Rays Towards Earth - SpaceTime with Stuart Gary Series 21 Episode 93

SpaceTime with Stuart Gary

30:19 min | 3 years ago

93: Micro-quasar Blasting Gamma Rays Towards Earth - SpaceTime with Stuart Gary Series 21 Episode 93

"Entertainment design, just for you, then checkout, customizable, streaming TV from finishing. It makes your life simple easy. Awesome. He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to Insperity dot com. Call one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply. This is space time series. Twenty one episode Ninety-three for broadcast on the twenty third November twenty teen up on space time the micro quasar blasting gamma rays towards earth, the earliest asteroid amount opposing new mysteries and its mission in finishes planet. Hygiene, Kepler space telescope all that and more coming up on space time. Welcome to space time. We'd Stewart Gary. Astronomers detected high energy gamma rays, volley blasting out of a mock 'request within the Milky Way. Galaxy democra- Cueva named SS for three three is fifteen thousand lie is from a it comprises twin jets beaming deep into the galaxy. The jets are being generated by a still a mass black hole in the binary system. Feeding off material it's dragging off a companion style. A report in the journal nature claims the discovery strongly suggests that electron acceleration together with collisions at the end of the Marquis as jets are producing the path of gamma rays the discoveries important because it offers a glimpse into more extreme events happening at the centers of the galaxies. Which involves logic ways is being generated by supermassive black holes, the office gathered they data using the high altitude water sharing of gamma Ray observatory that. Take this design to look for gamma Ray emissions coming from astronomical objects, such as supernova, remnants, quals and pulse is scientists have detected over dozen Margaret quasars in the Milky Way. But only a couple of appear to emit high energy gamma rays with issues for thirty three's close proximity and orientation to worth scientists had a rare up at unity to observe the extrordinary Astro physics taking place. The study's lead author professor Jordan Goodman from the university of Maryland says S four thirty three's right in alachua. Still a neighborhood. So using the high altitude water sharing of gamma Ray observatories, unique wide filled view allow these team to resolve both Mara quays particle accelerator sites. By combining these ups evasions with multi wavelength and multi messenger, data from other telescopes Goodman, and colleagues hitting proved their understanding of particle acceleration. In essence, four thirty three. And then extrapolate that data to the giant extra galactic cousins? The quite us produced by Sipa Massey. Black. Halls earthquakes as powerful enough to be seen right across the universe visible. Some thirteen billion line is away. But because this far away most non quays has only been detected when they jets are aimed directly at just like only noticing distant flashlight when it's aimed directly at you. In contrast for thirty three jets are oriented away from the and the high altitude water sharing of gamma Ray. Observatory was able to take similar in Jeddah coming from the micro quasar side, regardless of where they originate from the gamma rays involved. Always travel in straight lines to the distant action. The ones that arrive at earth than collide with molecules in the atmosphere, creating your particles and low energy gamma rays, and each new paddock will then slams into more stuff in the atmosphere, creating what's called a particle shower as the signal cascades towards the ground the high altitude water sharing of gamma Ray. Observatory is located roughly four thousand one hundred fifteen maters for thirteen thousand five hundred feet. Above sea level near the Sierra Negra. Okay. And it would make Seacot that a ticker is amazingly simple. It's composed of three entered tanks of pristine distilled water h tank being about eight meters. Diameter when the paddock was hit the water the moving so fast, they produce shock waves of blue light coach Sharon cove radiation, special cameras in the tank, then observed the sly allowing scientists that term in the origin of the gamma rays to reach their conclusions. The authors of story examined some one thousand seventeen days worth of data finding evidence that the gamma rays. They were seeing coming from the ends of the micro crisis jets rather than from the central part of the star system based on their analyses the authors concluded that the electrons. They were seeing the jets attained energies that are a thousand times higher than anything can be achieved in earthbound particle accelerators such as the large Hadron collider soon the office hot Papa sized the jets electrons collide with low energy microwave background radiation, which permeates space resulting in. Morais mission. If they right. This is a new mechanism for generating high g gamma rays in this type of system any different from what scientist of observed when quasars jets pointed directly at of I'm Stewart, Gary, you're listening space time. Entertainment designed just for you, then checkout. Customizable, streaming TV from Finnity it makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended? He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to Insperity dot com. A one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions applied. A new study is place new size limits on how big that strange looking into Stella astrodome, mama is likely to be the findings reported in the economic journal suggests the any in visitor is five brighter and consequently small than originally estimated possibly as small as one hundred Mehta's Oles back in November twenty seventeen scientists pointed neces- Spitzer space telescope towards the object. Go to study at infrared wavelength they found a Mao was too thankful spits at detect when it looked more than two months after the objects closest approach to worth in early September that year at Weber. The non detection puts new limits on how loud the strange shaped asteroids. Luckily to be the studies laid off their professor David trilling from both Arizona university says the ferry that amount was too small spits it at the tech is actually a very valuable result. He says amounts being full of surprises from day one. So just eager to see what spits I show the new. Size limit full as oxidation zolia this year suggesting that outgassing could be responsible for slight variations in the mouth speed and direction which would attacked it as it was being tracked last year the hypothesis being that the expelled gas. He's acting something like tiny thrust is gently pushing the object in different directions and different speeds. That determination was dependent on a mouse being relatively smaller than most typical solar system. Comets subsequent develops aversions conducted by moldable ground based telescopes and space telescope detected. The lot being reflected off amount surface large variations in the objects brightness suggested that amount is highly elongated and probably less than a kilometre in its longest dimension. But bits treks asteroids comets using the infrared energy or hate that they radiate and that can provide more specific information about an object size than optical versions of reflected sunlight alone. Could you say the fact that amount was too thankful Spitzer? Detect sits limits on the objects overall surface area because the non detection can be used to infer shape. The size. Limits were presented as what amounts. Diameter would be was very CLE using three separate models to make slightly different assumptions about the objects composition. Spitz's? Non detection limited amount of mouse, Feerick diameter to four hundred forty meters one hundred and forty meters or perhaps as little as one hundred maters the wide range of results stems from the assumptions about a Momo's composition, which influences how visible effect. It would have paid Spitzer word particular is then you study also suggests that amount of up to ten times more -flective than the comets which reside in our solar system. And according to the pipe is authors that was a surprising result because infrared light has largely hate radiation produced by Walt mob. Jacked it can be used to determine the temperature of Commodore asteroid and intern that can then be used to determine their affectively the object surface what astronomers coil. Al beta just like a block. Teasha in sunlight hates up more quickly than a white one and object with low reflectively retains more hate than object with high reflectively. So a low temperature means a higher L Beato now a comet Silvio can change throughout its lifetime. When it come at passes close to the sun. It's is is warm and supplemented spaces gas in the process weeping, Dustin dirt off, the comet surface, and therefore revealing more reflective is, but a Momo's been traveling through interstellar space millions and millions of years far from any style that could refresh surface, but it may have had it service refresh through such outgassing when it met. It's extremely close approach to the sun a little more than five weeks before it was the scarred. In addition to swiftly where the dirt and dust, some of this released gas may have covered the surface of a Mao with reflective coat of ice and snow. That's a phenomenon which has also been observed on competent also system a Mao is now almost as far from the sun as satins orbit at speeding. Back into deep space will beyond the reach of our existing telescopes. I discovered on October the nineteenth twenty seventeen the strange looking cigar. Shaped object was originally catalogued as a twenty seventeen you one. And then one I twenty seventeen you one and then later named mama and Hawaiian would meaning distant visit a arriving for the first time. It was initially detected by the university of a wise pant styles. One telescope is Pat of neces- search for Niyaz near-earth objects celestial bodies, which could pose a threat to our planet at the time of its discovery was estimated to be four hundred meters long. This was led to revise that one hundred eighty made his by thirty minutes size amount. Now dropped into our solar system from the direction of the constellation Lyra. Cruising through interstellar space at twenty five point five kilometers per second. It approached us solar system almost directly above the ecliptic the orbital plane upon which the planets and most of the asteroids over the. Son. Now, this means that didn't have any close encounters with eight major planets during its punch towards the sun. Then on September the second twenty seventeen cross just under the clinic inside mercury's orbit making its closest approach. The sun a week later on September nine pulled by the sun's gravity amid a hey pinton under our solar system passing under earth orbit on October the fourteenth at a distance of about twenty four million kilometers about sixty times that is to the moon the sun's gravity assist had flung amount. Like a slingshot accelerating it to a spate of forty four kilometers Pacific, relative to the sun and onto a trajectory heading towards the constellation Pegasus. Initial estimates indicate amount was now speeding through the solar system at an astonishing sixty four thousand three hundred sixty four kilometers Brown. It's high read of speed and orbit was proof that a mouse couldn't have originated from within our solar system or even from the surrounding or cloud of tag along objects traveling without Sola. As the morale the galaxy amounts usually referred to as an asteroid rather than the comet is up survey ships haven't taken any volatile gas emissions usually Saint coming from comets with any other son things like that nebulous envelope of gas and dust coat kinda surrounding the object or not conic commentary tile, of course, the absence of fuzzy halo signature tau doesn't end. It's not a comet a possibility that's been further aid forced by the new measurements showing the objects accelerating and changing course with suggests. So that guessing of wells is occurring Maomao past the distance of Jupiter's orbit in early may twenty teen and it will pass the distance of Sanzo, but in January next year. It'll Richard instance, corresponding to urine odor in August twenty twenty and that of Neptune in late June twenty twenty four by late twenty twenty-five amount will reach the outer edge of the compability, and then the Hillier pose the edge of our solar system in twenty thirty eight after which time. It'll be back into interstellar space the find out mole Andrew Bagley speaking with a strong, Dr Fred Watson, it's back in the news. Because there's now some speculation that it might actually be official. And would island has popped up. I haven't used that one myself bought it is being used. So where are we at? He we talking a big politics. He. But was still talking about us droid. I think let's recap again Amoah a Hawaiian word meaning the messenger from the first message of from afar, I think if I remember late chosen because the subject was discovered by telescope Italia. Calla on the island of Maui in the Hawaiian islands, this thing muster the solar system at roundabout year ago until November last year, and velocity was such that we immediately knew that it wasn't something that belong to the solar system plus through on a trajectory which brought it in from outside will take it outside again as it carries on on his on his journey through space. So very exciting stuff. It was the first into Stella asteroid. Now, there was some debate of the time as to what this object was wasn't enough. Streudel was a comment and the difference between them is the bicyc- asteroids. A rocky comment Sarai, see nuts. The you know the bottom line. Although come it's also include a lot of Dustin. The weird thing is that it was long thin as described so graphically a mine site it something like a quarter of a Killa mates along to fifty Mehta's all two hundred fifty yards of there. Abouts by about forty maters Unsa, gosh, I'd tumbling end over end. So that it had think he's got a rotation period or tumble period of something like eight hours something about. So it was not tumbling. Of course, the ways Brian this change that allowed us John of us to work out more or less what it shy walls what really clinched that. It was an Australian is the papal observed it as closely as they could give him the dated already posted its closest to the sub on the date is closest to the they observed to look for any evidence of what we call outgassing this material coming off the surface, which is typical of what happens to comments when they get reasonably close to the sun and the gas comes off his excited to glow. Which is why we think of comments is being the. Objects, traveling through skies. However, nothing was saying in that regard. And so the conclusion came that it was an asteroid uninvited Kulla is slightly. Reddish color is also consistent with the rocky surface been bombarded for a long time. Millions of years by cosmic rays that the telling positives really Comey the whole of space so that so the same to put the little the discovery except that there were a slight peculiarities in its to jet trade, and this sort of led to the idea of it being a comment being reopened because I experienced accelerations that could really only be explained something was pushing slightly. And so the suggestion is that perhaps it wasn't outgassing. There were plumes of gas coming from the thing which were providing acceleration changing it so very slightly. We'd can detect things very accurately under that why little. Nitty gritty things like this crop up. So that was speculated. Although once again, there was no sign of any country outgassing. So what has now happened is a pipe which has been produced by scientists at Taba university in the USA, and I have to say that lead all through somebody who's always bit provocative when it comes to this thing. I'll I'll explain that in a moment. But the paper is really about what could be causing this celebration. And a lot of the piper is about the idea of radiation pressure from the Selm giving this celebration MU Mura seem to exhibit. So that was the bulk of the pipe, but rice at the end there is a little bit. That says. What about speculating? This is actually a lie sil- that this thing is out fischel vice craft with a light sil-, which is receiving the sums right action, and that's causing it to summarize. So they all the Packer immediately gets into highly speculative regions and a lot of the has been a loss of commentary by other. Astronomers on this saying, why do you go to the the least likely explanation of this? You know of whatever this phenomenon might be gets attention kits. You noticed? Yes. The media's unwritten rule is never let the truth. Get in the way of good story said I've watched on the laced likely situation, and it's become the lead. That's what I reckon. Well, of course, that's right. That's what he's all about. It's a love is the fourth. He's put put this idea out is certainly a in the world scout simplicity for the of strongly may department and other love the chairman of that department, this scientists might mentioned is also the one who speculated that fuss threat yoga's John something else that currently don't have an expert plus ride you that's the one radio bus. Speaking those the result of aliens using lasers to propel lifestyles through the universe. He's very keen on the idea of light. Silence. Unclearly brings them into any conversation where it seems relevant fair enough. But I'd say don't have a problem with. I think it's good to put these ideas out that, and I think of the same time. It's also good to realize that they are highly speculative. That's Dr Fred Watson and astronomer with department of science speaking with Andrew Dunkley on assist. The program space nuts. And this is space time. I'm Stewart Gary. Just days after the end of neces- stolen mission to the main asteroid built mission managers have wished to fund farewell to another tile of spice workers the planet. Hunting Kipling space telescope on the evening of Thursday, November the fifteenth Keppler received its final set of commands to disconnect or communications with earth. The good night commands finalize the spacecraft's transition into retirement which began on October the thirtieth with confirmation by NASA that Kepler had run out of fuel and could no longer conduct science. Coincidentally Kepler's good nut falls on the same day as the three hundred eight year anniversary of the death of its namesake, the German astronomy Hanis kept lot discovered the laws of planetary motion and passed away on them. The fifteen sixteen thirty the final commands was sent of in as deep space communications network from Kepler's operation center at the university of Colorado in Balda Kepler's team disabled the safety mode, inadvertently turned systems back on and civic communicate. By shutting down the transmitters because the craft slowly spinning Kipling tame had to carefully Tom the command. So the instructions would reach the spacecraft during periods of viable communication. The team will monitor the spacecraft some time to ensure the commands were successful Keppler is now drifting in a safe Ovid around the sun, some one hundred and fifty one million kilometers from of the planet hunting space telescope was designed to stay at a single region of space in the direction of the northern constellations of cygnus Lyra Drako searching foot any slight changes in light coming from some of the one in fifty thousand Stana than it's filled view. You see those changes could signify a planet passing transiting in front of the stars seemed from Kepler's position eclipsing blocking out some of that stylized during its nine point six. She mission Kipling discovered some two thousand six hundred sixty two confirmed except planets it observed five hundred and thirty thousand five hundred six stars. And documented some sixty one supernova events the discoveries made by Keppler resulted in the publication, so fun of two thousand nine hundred forty shake scientifically pay reviewed papers kipah has proven the remote planets than stars in our galaxy and knowing that revolutionizes Allen the standing of place in the cosmos. Kept was also shown that the Milky Way is taming with terrestrial sized planets and many of them may be similar to earth in size and distance from their parents is the most recent analysis of Kepler's discoveries includes that twenty to fifty percent of all styles in the sky, a likely to have small rocky planets that are in the habitable zones of this style places where liquid water central for life, as we know it can pool. Planetary surface was also discovered a diversity of planetary times. But interestingly the most common size of planet found by Kepler doesn't exist in our solar system. These are wounds sucrets which at somewhere between the. Size of earth and the size of Neptune. Kipling also showed scientists that. While the sons in a solar system has just four terrestrial planets Macri, Vince earth, MAs Kipling found other systems with up to eight terrestrial planets. Opening close into the host is the existence of these compact systems raises new questions about how still systems foam planet. Spoon close to their parents does what do they form further out? The migrate inwards. Besides introducing golden age of exit punditry discovery Kipling also reinvigorated the study of stars observing more than half a million stars of the course of its nine years of operation, kipness observations of so many stars was essential to understanding the basic properties of the planets that opened them Kipling also captured the beginning stages of exploding styles code supernovae with unprecedented precision, providing new clues about how they store explosions begin the data collected by Kepler of the course of operations is still being analyzed the mind for new discoveries discoveries which will help keep producing. Scientific papers for many many years to come the scientists and engineers who worked on Kepler have praised the many compliments of the starring mission, which has changed sciences understanding of the universe and out place in it. You're listening to space time. I'm Stewart Gary. Entertainment designed just for you, then checkout. Customizable, streaming TV from expanding it makes your life simple easy. Awesome. Expended? He gives you, customizable, streaming TV options. Enjoy the most free shows anywhere on any device and even access your streaming apps right on your TV with x one. Go to expend dot com. Call one eight hundred Finnity or visit a store today. To learn more restrictions apply. And time now to take another brief look at some of the other stories making using science this week with a science report. And you study is found that coffee drinkers loved the bitter taste of caffeine while Taylor this absolutely hated the findings published the journal scientific reports based on data from the UK by a Bank linking genetic variants associated with the perception of three Bitta substances caffeine, quitting and purple Farah. So prop with papers preferences for tricky Tae coffee or alcohol, the study found those who are most sensitive to the bitterness of caffeine, usually drank more coffee, but let's see but for both the other bit variants the effect was the opposite. Those who are more sensitive to Queen and prop drank list coffee, but more t for alcohol people are more sensitive to pro tended to hit the bottle list. But the other two variants head no faked the findings show that genetic differences may help determine whether people end up being tea or coffee drinkers. Apple has launched than you online tool that lets us his download change or delete all the day data Apple's collected on them. The tool was initially role that for us in the European Union in response to the us data protection lows. It's now available in the apple privacy website figures in the United States Canada. Australia new-zealand, a new study claims that red Brown and blue green pigments found in birds eggs, I evolved when FA that friends was still Donoso's a report in the journal nature, analyzed fossil eggshells of all the major dinosaur groups, it found preserved pigments spotted and speckled patents in the shells of the dinosaur group notice theropods the group, which includes a modern birds eggs from dinosaur groups that will closely related to builds including triceratops in the plot has did not content. Any pigments, and so would have been planning kala. Life aside, the active ingredient widely used in weedkillers roundup is being discarded in common brands of dog and cat foods. The Cornell University study reported in the journal environmental pollution found glyphosate president low levels in eighteen different pit food. Brands purchase that local stores, including one climbing to be J A free. The concentrations ranged from eighty to two thousand micrograms per kilogram that's still considered a safe level for human consumption once apprising finding of the study was that the glyphosate detected in the one GMO free product, the researchers analyzed was it live was higher than those in several the process feeds study suggests that keeping faith stocks on contaminated is a real challenge even in the Jameh free-market. The scientific method involves observation hypothesis experimentation analysis in conclusion science is all about critical thinking it's a search for the truth that just take someone's word for test the cli- safe it's factual and stands up or if it's just a great steaming pile of. Woo. That's what scepticisms all about search for the truth. And remember scientific facts don't care if you like them or not Dettori twenty thousand bent spoon award highest this honor. Astray and skepticism has this she'd been awarded to a social media blogger who claim she -cutor civic with displays ya using nothing, but the power of prayer holistic treatments lifestyle changes and share willpower with the data ELS, which my team Mendham from straight skeptics that. We've given that every ES same about them that we have spent award which cost bent by gala himself and mounted on from nine was etcetera. Very heavy. They we have more levels all the time this year in two thousand eighteen. The basement went through a woman who has a podcast, I'm YouTube channels, Instagram, all that sort of stuff has a million followers, and unfortunately, she's promoting cedar medicine ideas, and especially because that audiences again, young women, she's attractive person. She's obviously very appealing and the things he's telling specifically in this case was that she had Hewitt her precancerous condition that he'll displays you. And she had done it with the power of natural medicine food changes in prey now, the trouble is that this particular condition, which is caused by the pay in Lima virus Catholic ouncil says that there's no evidence anything woman can do in terms of diet and lifestyle to promote regression of this. So obviously, there's a lot of issues they are way shaming, and we don't have rate anyways. And Mel to as she really did have said dislike. But the fact that she's giving these natural medicines. And last China's and pray as the reason she Q it is a great while Chris. A lot of other young women who very faithful of this obviously within follow search travelers safe not going to say doctors, they not going to set of guys proper medical prices spaghetti just turned to group. That's Tim Mendham from Australia. Skeptics, you're listening space time. I'm Stewart, Gary, and that's the shy Fano. You can subscribe download space time as a free twice weekly podcast through apple podcast. 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Ben Fred Friday  February 12, 2021

Scoops with Danny Mac

21:22 min | 7 months ago

Ben Fred Friday February 12, 2021

"In just a moment. We'll hear from ben frederickson of the saint. Louis post dispatch. ben fred. fridays is always brought to you by blue tail. Medical group and the doctors are blue tail. Some of the nation's top experts in the fields of sports medicine and stem cell regenerative therapies. So if you're in line for surgery before you do that make sure you check out doctors bays crane and wolf experts and stem cell regenerative therapy doctors from all over the world. They traveled a chesterfield valley. To learn how they're doing it we're talking about your own bodies stem cells redirected to concentrate all their power in the joints. It causes you pain to schedule an appointment. Six three six seven seven eight to one thousand nine hundred six three six seven seven eight thousand nine hundred and see what they offer at blue tail. Medical group dot com. And we always do we say. Good morning on a friday to ben frederickson. It is a busy week in sports. How we doing. Ben go well. Dan happy friday to you until the listeners and plane to discuss some good some bad. Some really interesting and another Sports pack weakened here. I want to start with the really interesting What's going on with the rams. I i know you kind of had a little peek behind the curtain with that and their situation with saint louis in the lawsuit. What's happening there. So some some some reports coming out An the business journal for for being kind of On this first of of what's going on with these depositions You know there's been been reports of tar jones being resisting a deposition of the cbc as well and folks are wondering what's going on here. Well there was a lengthy lengthy hearing on on thursday done virtually between all parties and basically. What's what's coming out of this. Is this that the rams are continue. The rams and the nfl are continuing to try to find ways to drag this conversation back to you. Know what we all know. Was they a regrettable. Lease on that the team head in saint louis at the dome and time and time again the The judge in this case and he's been supported by the appeals court as said this case which is about nfl and the rams violated the relocation guidelines before moved to los angeles It's not about what happened in nineteen ninety five it's not about the Police or the arbitration Or or the you know. The saint louis decision to not make those tier one upgrades. This is about what happened. When saint louis tried to build a new stadium for the rams and the rams were motivated that whole time to go to los angeles and they're just continues to be a difference of opinion on on whether or not you know how far back you should go. But the judge has made his opinion clear and so has the the appeals court yet. The the rams continue to try to to push that story back further Even at one point had bidding on thursday that it really don't feel like that much of a defense unless they can turn that dial back so that's gonna be really interesting to see how that plays out To charlotte jones will be deposed. That's going to happen on friday. At least it's scheduled to and it sounds like That you know the other folks. Cvc might as well too. Although what information becomes you know from that deposition actually gets brought up in court because of the limitations placed on the time line by the judge will be will be very interesting to see how that how that plays out basically. It's the difference of opinion on win. This story starts. Does it start in. Nineteen ninety five or does it start win. Saint louis made an effort to build the rams stadium in the two sides have very different opinions. The other interesting thing going on here. Dan is there. The saint louis side is having a hell of a time getting eric grubman scheduled for deposition multiple times. One has been on. The books in multiple. Times is now gone away. And it's a question of is he going to have to beat deposed or to be subpoenaed in order to be deposed. The he's kind of in this grey zone where he's not technically in nfl employees anymore. But he's supposed to be kind of working on their behalf so he wasn't subpoenaed to appear but now it's a question of should he need to be if they can't they can't get him to sit down and do a deposition. So that's been frustrating on the st louis side of things in a pretty a pretty Pretty blistering take from one of the saint. Louis lawyers involved bombing. Who who brought attention of the judge. How many times some of these depositions had to be rescheduled Cancelled at the last moment without a notice without an excuse. Conquers was canceled. Dean spanos was cancelled. Both of those had to be rescheduled. Now it's grubman his. They're having a hard time getting pinned down every time that happens. It affects the schedule. You know there's so many depositions in here a hard deadline at least we'll see if the pandemic changes the time line of things but It's it's really cumbersome and difficult when all of a sudden there's a cancellation. All the schedules have to be moved around. So the rams are playing delay tactics. I think it's safe to say that. And they are. They're continuing to try to convince the judge in this case to to maybe dial back that time line a little bit deeper than what he initially said. We'll see if they have any luck with that. Sounds like it could be a pretty important part of their defense. In terms of cranky he has been deposed and he has done that correct. Yeah well he was scheduled earlier. It got cancelled they but they have done it. Yeah he was one of the two day depositions along with roger goodell. Grubman is scheduled for two days as well. Some of the big ones have taken place Some of the big name some of the other big names of including some folks who were on the the relocation committee are still are still upcoming on the schedule. Now the rams and nfl's side of things said that both spanos an kroenke had to reschedule their their depositions because of because they got covid That that what was said on thursday in the hearing So that's that's their side of the story. At least those have been done. Yes have you heard anything about those anything. Come out that's leaked from those depositions her So the i've not heard anything specifically about cronk his deposition There is a protective order on the case which You know sometimes documents escape out from the i. None of them have escaped out from under that into my possession. There there was to to give full credit into condominium on the reporting that business journal did have. I think one of the documents that they had been able to obtain that had talked about. Crock may be trying to clarify some of the comments. He made that. Of course they're going to hang over his head in this case about wanting to do what was best for saint. Louis always working to keep lewis paraphrasing that of course but you know. Remember the comments. He made that of course stand out in bold now as making those kind of kind of trying to decide those things that were said before. The city decided not to upgrade the dome. So there's they're really trying to everything trying to include that entire time line as a willingness to show that they did operate in good faith with the rams side with the saint louis side is saying is none of that's relevant and this is. This is a matter of what happened when saint louis was told the rams cannot just pick up a move to la if you guys present a plan to keep them and that was of course. A lot of money went into that plan. There was a stadium. You know sponsor willing to put its name on a stadium for that plan. So they're there they. I think that really good job of saying. Let's not make this about what happened. In ninety five and all the fallout from it. All the way up to the two thousand thirteen. Let's make it about what happened when that plan was catch to try to keep the team with a new stadium and then that was made in vain because the team was already determined to move. So they're saying not only are we not concerned about that passed. We also included. They included every other. Nfl team in the lawsuit so by doing that they are making it clear that this is not about five or the lease arbitrate. The dome this is about the league saying it's relocation guidelines were ex and then doing why when saint louis was attempting to build a new stadium to keep the team understood Let's switch to what's happening in sports in on the playing field or in this case. The ice The blues continued to play and they continue to play the same team. The phoenix coyotes Not good for the league and not good for the fans not good at all. I mean you wanna play. That part is good. It's just the continuation of playing the same teams because of covert outbreaks with other teams. What what's your You know just your thoughts and seeing all these games against the same team. It's kinda negative but my my gut reaction is kinda like wake me up when this is over. What are we learning here. Yeah we know that. Coyotes are good against the blues They've had their number for a while. Now craig berube e- especially has his teams struggled against against the coyotes. Are we getting any real real information about the team out of this. I don't know it's a playoff series in the middle of the season With no implications yet. The division implications. But it's just not natural natural. The guys they're sick to see in these guys I think it's got probably kind of feel like almost an exhibition at this point. It's not their fault. At least these two teams are doing what they need to do. In order to dodge the the virus. But just i have a hard time. The at it in thinking it's a really really You know up up you know legitimate contest. Here it's kinda goofy. And i got imagine it feels pretty goofy to all of the guys going through the seven game stretch to they also Bottom line they gotta get better on special teams. They have been terrible. This season the blues special teams well. It's goofy because they should was kinda supposed to be one of their strengths with guys. They added You know you know it takes a while for chemistry to to happen and and you wanna give some patients there. But we're not talking about having all that much of a season left here. Everything is shortened right so the pressure is starting to to build a blues. Have been so good at five on five. But you're right at this point. It's not something. That's the kinks. It's time to start moving some things around and trying to get some production there course. It's one of those things to where longer it doesn't click the more. The pressure builds. Which doesn't help anybody to but at some point you know the idea of them being a killer. A power play team. I think that's probably out the window but they should still be able to be a decent one Mrs may be finding the right guys all right of guys this time next week. Cardinals around the field and jupiter This past week they signed. Yada your molina's so i look. I felt he was coming back the whole time. I really did insane with ueno. It was just gonna take some time and be patient as most said and i believe that the market had to kind of settled down and see where it was going to go and see if we had baseball this year. If it start on time now we know Your initial thoughts to see in yati come back in and have at least one more year in saint louis and by the way i'm not sold. This is his final year either. Yeah i'm not either. But i did say i mean. I went back and read something i wrote in. I'm i'm wrong a lot here. This is like my best. But i said a while back like what the cardinals need to do. Here is put yati on the on the way no plan. He plays one year. You reevaluated. after it's over. Everybody knows you're not going anywhere and you just do it year to year and you know that's what they are on now. I think there will could turn into another year. We'll see how this season plays out. I think he and wayne Both in the same place if they're healthy and they feel good and i think the team has a chance to be good. They wanna be apart if something something changes there where they don't play well or they don't feel good. I think both of them are to the point where they can walk away with their heads held high but why not have them back on a on a league very advantageous salary in terms of their performance for what they mean to the team what they needed the fans. It's it's it's the best for both parties. And i did think both would be back I thought that was just a matter of time. I wasn't sure what else the cardinals would do. A that would find a way to upgrade the lineup. They certainly have done that. And then some by padding nolan out who is one of the best players which makes that made it easier much easier for audio molina to jump back. And he's wanted to play with this guy for a really long time. So i i think this. Is you know it's good for all the reasons that that that are obvious. You know the fact that people like way knowing yati. It's another season of them together. You know that their story gets another chapter. But it's also really interesting to me. Because i think they feel like this team can be good and i think what trading for aeronautics did was it it kind of bridge the gap. The cardinals were a team. That was kind of have a foot in both camps right at wanted to trust the young guys turn some playing time over but also wanted to bring back these two wiley veterans in sin them outright but they had a real gap in the middle. It was like paul goldschmidt hanging out by himself in the middle in terms of the now will now. They've got a great player. Nolan are not oh that now they can be a good team atop six to ten team being fueled by both prospects and veteran guys with some real heston the middle. And i think it really kind of the move. A series of moves made them not. That isn't trying to figure out if it's going forward or waiting till next year it gives them a purpose and what their purpose has been for. Years and years is to be good now in later and i think now they are that team now. Can they get better sure. Are they going enough to win it. All not necessarily but they're good enough team to be top six ten team in his top sixty ten team. Can i think you know have a chance to win it. All the cardinals last year. The the big thing was. If if you're good enough you get into. The postseason may be catch. Break go away. let's not forget. The cardinals did catch a break. Last year the padres pitching staff was roasted with injuries and the cardinals couldn't take advantage of it. They got crushed in a bullpen game. So now they're better than that on the padres of course have gotten better so dodgers but the cardinals i think can head into the postseason now with a little more a little more proof that they are the kind of team that could stick around a while. I'm interested into how many stars yati will get this year. I'm thinking if he's healthy. Alongs the season if we get one hundred sixty two games and he's healthy for all of them. I'm pencil and for one hundred twenty five. At least yeah i would too. I don't think he came back to sit He did say the right things in zoom call. Where he's you know. Says he wants to help that next generation whether it's kisner harare but look if the cardinals are planning some sort of massive timeshare dan. You said this. This isn't news to anybody. They would've played kisner more last year. you know. I think injured kisner started four games last season. I know it was a sixty game season but right that was still three times fewer games than one legged matt. Liter started mean. Met leaders wasn't good last year. Nope no disrespect to him. But but kisner still didn't play and in most said this offseason that if he didn't come back they'd probably have to make a move at a catcher. Which didn't necessarily put a lot of confidence in kissinger's ability to the guy it'd be great for him to get some reps and i don't think yati will start every day. Maybe he's a little more open to take in a game a week off but I think if you're molina's back and cardinals uniform that i'm going to expect to see him out there a whole lot more often than not it was good couple of nights ago to watch sloot that finally in that second half into the first half that looked like the slough that was the team before the shutdown. Pretty good yeah. They're kind of starting to get their legs back. I think can good to seek jordan goodwin playing jordan goodman again He had been a little slow to launch after the covid post You know we still don't know which guys had it which guys didn't specifically although probably better out guys didn't so many good but they're starting to look like themselves again and that's really good. You know you gotta gotta beat the bad teams in the league Short ability needs to do it again and kind of i think. Put up a body of work that if you're the instable selection committee at the time to talk about those at large bid you're looking at the net you're looking at all these things but this year too. They should at least be looking at covid. In the fact that the billikens got nearly wiped out with you know lost a month of their games had shut down for a month in the fact that they came back and lost two games and then got back on a winning track at that continues. That's a pretty easy decision for me to make. If i'm if. I'm on the selection committee. I see a team that had multiple double digit number caseloads of covid that that that was playing great before the shutdown took a two games to get to get its wind back and then went on another run. I i felt good about that team. So they need to keep they having that be their storyline and mizzou. Not good in the state of mississippi. My man but they got arkansas. Coming up this weekend It's been a fun year. I think for missouri basketball for martin. He's had a solid year but man. Sometimes there's just some clunkers and you do scratch your head don't you well. I'll tell you what. I don't know what it is about. The magnolia state but missouri needs to get the hell out of there and stay out of their down. Just goes back to. I mean. remember the football team loss. Mississippi state to kind of put put a dent in. Its in its nice season. They're under eli drink quits missouri lost. That had that terrible second half at mississippi state after after the Might have been the best first half of their season. That was a bad loss for teams. Got some really nice wins and then this this at amiss. Tell you what kermit davis. He's got figured out he's now. I think six two against zo dating back to their first meeting which was a game between missouri state middle tennessee. And he's just kind of got his teams fired up to play against kansas. Teams has seems to have. Have you know some coaches have more luck against other coaches. They kinda got him read. And it's kind of like that's the case with with kermit. The other thing is for whatever reason. Missouri just doesn't play well in oxford miss hasn't for a long time and that was a trap game and man missouri keenan balled into it. They looked like they didn't want to be there They looked flat. Especially in the second. Half anytime you got jeremiah. Tillman taken four field goal attempts. That can't happen They got out rebounded by a lot. it was their worst point. Large loss of the season and konso pretty much said it. I mean he didn't he didn't sugarcoat. Be some guys to show up. He's putting a lot of a lot of of a lot of not blame but a lot of challenge on xavier pinson to play better when he doesn't attack their offense doesn't get going the good news for the tigers. They haven't lost spectrum games all season. They're gonna play their rally for ryan game at home against arkansas and saturday. They have not lost any of those games and usually when they're coming off a big loss they they played better pinson when he's coming off. A bad performance tends to play better so I think they will bounce back. But yeah you're right. It's hard to explain that when away. There's really no answer fourth this weekend on fox channel two To honor the negro leagues will have bob kendrick the director of the negro leagues baseball museum. I think fans will really enjoy that connection of lou brock to the negro leagues baseball museum. Bob kendrick will be my guest up on the website right now you can listen to a visit. I had yesterday with hall of famer. Ted simmons and i think people will enjoy that as well and brian walton on wednesday and so on and so forth and as always. We love visiting with ben frederickson on these fridays. Ben have a safe weekend. And where are you going this weekend. You're going to cover the mizzou gamer. What are you doing. I was actually going to be here around here. So we've got a. I've got i've got a couple of colleagues at mizzou for the mizzou game so i'll be here kind of saving up my My cold weather. Time before i hopefully get down to dupe to jupiter. I think i'll be going down to spring training for the final three four weeks year. Just hoping it's still up and running by the time. I'm supposed to go fingers crossed my in the truth. I wanted to tell you that was a great get with with bob to got encourage folks One of my favorite things to do growing up. I used to spend some time every year with my aunt who lives in kansas city. And she'd take me to the negro league museum so for people who have not been Next time there in. Kc they gotta find a way to go you really if you're in missouri within driving distance and you haven't been to the negro leagues museum. You're doing yourself a disservice especially if you're a baseball fan. Yeah it's about baseball but man it's really about our country which is the the neatest part about it and teaching lesson for so many people and that's Wonderful to hear the bob. Bob has great stories about hank aaron. And you'll see in the show on on sunday. I have a picture. That baba's and i said to bob This week i said bob. That's i think my favorite picture. I've ever seen of henry aaron and It's henry aaron at the age of seventeen. Yata see this ben and i have it in the show. He is so skinny. Innocent looking and scared as hell. And that's the way the bob put it. He said he has no idea. What's about to hit them. He's outside a bus station in mobile alabama getting ready to get picked up to go to the indianapolis clowns. It's an unbelievable photo. It's unbelievable we had no idea what is about to hit us. Yeah no kidding. It's pretty needs. I think people are people. Enjoy the show as always. Thanks for man will catch up next friday. Okay sounds good bye.

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CFP 033: Choose Your Monetization Model with Kerry Lutz

Cashflow Podcasting: Authority, Audience Growth and Sales through podcasting

34:20 min | 4 years ago

CFP 033: Choose Your Monetization Model with Kerry Lutz

"It's time for cash flow podcasting join your host Ben Kruger to crack open the secrets to generating massive influence income and freedom through the power of cash flow podcasting. Here we go. Effort podcasting audience on exciting fourteen days podcast guest. This is a topic that is constantly talked about throughout podcasting and especially among people who are considering getting started podcasting whether it's for their business whether it's as a business and really excited to invite today's guest because he's a long time podcast, her he's had a show since two, thousand, twelve and. For a while for the first couple of years, it wasn't the most financially abundant show on itunes and after testing out and trying few things, he's unable to figure out how to really monetize his podcast and has written a book about viral podcasting process to earn a six figure income from your podcast. So I'm really excited to welcome to today's show carry Lutts. Harry thank you for coming on the show in a really excited the Chatman. I really appreciate your inviting the on and. Love to share the lessons that I've learned over the past six years of podcasting. Well, those are the best lessons to share. Love it. So it's a little bit about you have been running financial survival network dot com for a while and De podcast book is a more recent thing. Tell us a little bit about your experience around podcasting kind of what got you into it in lead you to this point will a been an attorney for thirty years was really unsatisfied unfulfilled from my career there even though it was quite profitable over the years but I just always felt like I was missing something and I started listening to other people's podcast like Leo LaPorte like. Lift Ravenscroft podcast, answer man and. A number of others and I say, well, I could do this maybe could figure out technical stuff maybe I could do it and I got into. A pay for play radio show on real estate. I wasn't really happy with the topic and decided, Hey, I'm rebranding I'm going to do this about finances in the new economy, how you how you basically thrive in the new economy and the online course and podcasting figured out all the technical stuff and then I was off to the races and built a pretty good size audience in. Pretty Short period of time and had some sponsors but I could never quite figure out at make this thing pay and. Took a number of years to got to that point. Yeah and so. It sounds like the show started out as mostly at of interested you start in the very beginning with the intention of it being an income generating podcast will always had my eye on the bottom line that it would become profitable but I knew it was going to take time to do it and initially, I was really just looking at pretty much. I was going to do a lot of reports about precious precious metals about alternative investing including things like bitcoin and I figured I would get the mining companies to buy sponsorships on the show and unfortunately shortly thereafter shortly after starting the mining industry went into a prolonged. Depression that it only lifted out of last year. So my business model was shot in the foot. You know trying to do a advertiser supported podcast with out being influenced her of into a specific company. Is the most difficult model where building podcasting business. There are other models that are so much easier and more pro instantly profitable, but I didn't see myself fitting into any of those other models. Got It yeah. Sounds like. From a timing standpoint that just did not work out in your favor from a market influences standpoint. So you mentioned that there are other more profitable or more quickly profitable models. What are some of your favorite podcast monetization models, some of your top preferred models as at worth. Will, for instance, one of the Is You're an influence ser and you can. Let's say you love surfing or your escape border and you can get your so good at it. You can get the company to pay you to be a spokesman I. Mean that's perfect because you have no risk in the show you just start doing it and they start paying you and if you're really good in your reach is really wide you could make six figures just doing that, but it's a little rare but. Who aren't really celebrities are doing it. Now, another one we talked about earlier was. A May existing business, maybe brick and mortar I. Sell Products, services, and I use my podcast to become a guru to establish authority in the marketplace so that using the podcast and distribution, model, I get a lot of free content out there the people who are interested in what I'm doing and I build my business up. I would call that rand extension and that is a very. That's probably the best model that's out there. Now of all the podcasts models has it's the easiest because you're not starting from Ground Zero and you've got an intimate connection to what your podcast subject matter is, and it makes it much easier to succeed. For the listeners out there that have listened to cash low podcast for a while. You know that that is a model that I. Myself Am particularly keen on and that's a lot of what we promote and encourage folks to do at Kaslo podcasting in with the show. So that being said, then let's say you know, let's let's of turn this into a case study. Here. Let's say I'm a small business owner I've got an online coaching practice. Let's say and I've got a small audience had been around for a little while. So I've got an established offer that works it sells, and I'm considering using podcasting as a way to get my name out there bill authority kind of build some more that Guru status you were talking about and. At the end of the day, I want to generate some additional clients and be an actual profit center for my business not necessarily just a market costs. So what are some of the initial steps somebody in that scenario could take to number one really get an idea of is podcasting really does it have the potential to be a profitable thing for me as as a small business owner? So, when you're in that situation, just say so you'RE A. Coach and he want additional income. So the first thing is my theory is the way you build this is that. It's going to pay for its off because it is a marketing outlay. Presumably. If you're shows good, you're going to get clients from it but first thing is gonNA have compelling content. I have a chapter in the book it's the content stupid and. It's a little takeoff on on carvills thing. It's the economy. Stupid. But if you're content, isn't there, it doesn't matter how slick your marketing is or anything else. It's just not going to do it for you. So you need to be very focused on your goals. What it is you're trying to accomplish here and you've got to build an audience or what you're doing, and once you have the audience, the monetization will come. Eventually. You'll find right model for it but building your content making compelling shows is really what it's all about and everything flows from that it doesn't flow from I. Finding sponsors to monetize. You know I was told by an expert don't monetize your show until you absolutely have to. Well, I don't believe in that either I think the two go hand in hand. But if you're doing a great show and you're getting tons of Than in your struggle to monetize will will be much easier. Right out the gate, my main focus sounds like should be really content in making sure that whatever. Whatever I'm putting out there is valuable to my audience. So with that being said, then what are some kind of concrete things we can focus on concrete steps that we can take to make sure that The ideas we have about the type of content. We WanNA create. How do we know that? That's GonNa make a good show. Are So. You know you have to look I what kind of format are you GONNA do? Is it going to be interviewed based or commentary based or a combination of the two? That's number one how long are you going to do it? How often are you going to do it? Doing, a podcast less than once per week I don't recommend I think that's a huge mistake because our brains are programmed to to want continuity and regularity, and if you don't believe it just think. TV shows when we used to be into them whether you are not anymore. It was always a weekly show that you would look forward to every week to to turning on and watching. That's what you have to look at with your podcast got to be at least weekly podcast if you can do daily or two three times a week that's fine. Just make it regular. That's the key and then post production production values right someone once told me was cliff ravens craft high production values won't get people to listen to your show, but it will keep them coming back if your show sounds like you're recording it in a tin can. You'RE GONNA only get like a certain percentage of the possible audience that you could otherwise get so. That's another thing I suggest that you do a business plan for your podcast, not a business plan. Necessarily it's going to look like one where you would go out and raise capital from investors but where you cover the basics for instance. Soft cost how much is it going to cost you per month to do this thing when your goals, what do you think you can make off of it? What are you? What do you hope to make off of it have goals established goals for your podcast extremely important. The old saying if you don't know what road you need to be on any road will take you there. If you don't know where you're going any road will take you there or if you fail to plan, then you're planning to fail. It's especially true for podcasting. It's easy to wander and drift in the world of podcasting and not get anything accomplished while you think or you appear to be rack up episodes, you're not getting anywhere. So the business plan is really essential and I would put that as number one doesn't have to be detailed blaker land where you're trying to raise money, but it's gotta be detailed enough. So you've got a certain clear goals and you've got a plan to take you there. Yeah and I'm I'm a big fan of starting with the end in mind or starting with the outcome in mind because that then helps you. Really map out all the pieces in between whenever you get lost on any of those steps in the middle section you can always kind of refer back to is this taking me towards that end goal or have I started to wander and wondering I think is part of natural process and self righting along the way. Though is the necessary part because I think human nature and just outside influence kind of forces wandering upon us, and you kind of have to find your way back to the central path to keep moving. So with that, then let's say somebody has. Put together a little bit business planner an outline with some clear goals for their podcast. They have a good idea of what they want it to do. They're not exactly sure if that's how it's GonNa play out or not. But that's what they want to figure out. You know they know that they're going to focus in on making really great content. They've got a good idea of what their format regularity is going to be all that kind of stuff winter our first steps into figuring out this whole monetization angle actually bringing in the first dollars from the show. Okay. So the next thing is who is going to be listening to your show? Who is your more? Your archetype listener some people call them avatars and particularly care for that say who's your market who's going to listen to your show and and then who are these people? What is their age racial composition ethnic composition how much do they make and why are they your market You know who? Who Do you want to buy and if you're doing brick and mortar or an existing Business, and you're becoming an add on. You should have a very good idea of who your market is and then what is going to appeal to these people? Why would they want to listen to you just because we have a chapter in there if you build it, they won't come because just because you put the podcast up there and I tunes and you're all enthusiastic in its. livestream whatever once it goes up there. Then what are people actually going to listen to this thing? So that's why the replanning of your market is as much as you can know about these people you need to know. So you have a coaching practice. So who's your average customer? Is it a female in her forties or a male in his thirties? All of this important because otherwise, how are you going to attract these people and then if you know who your audience is when you go? To monetize, it's going to be that much easier because you will be able to pick out potential sponsors who match your audience. That's why have chapter in their becoming a master of analytics. Once your shows up and running, you need to be able to look at those numbers and understand the story tells about who is listening to your podcast and how they would and win all of these things are important. So once you've got your market out of the way, then we basically move on from there. Okay. So we've got a good idea of the market. What's our next step here then? Okay then your next step is you got to start doing these shows right because nobody really. No advertiser no sponsor. Really. For the most part wants to get involved with an unknown quantity they wanna see like, Oh, you've done three hundred shows good. So you gotTa have shows and I would suggest if you're going to send it out to potential advertisers sponsors, then you should probably do some kind of demo reel. That's what they call it radio where you take excerpts from your show and you kind of piece them together and kind of tells a story of who you are and what you do. So you got to start doing I but. Let's say that that's not an option. You can't. You have to start right away. Still you can do a demo reel of what a sample show is going to be like and then. I use a blog talk radio and there are other platforms for podcast server that probably are better technically that better analytics, etc. But blog talk has something that the others don't they send me money every month just this month they sent me four thousand dollars and the way it works is you do a show you put it up. There is a AD insertion tool and ads get served up during your show lately it's really picked up as an income stream. So you got to be looking at multiple income streams. Right? We talk about that. You have one income stream right now if you have a job if you have a piece of real estate, you're renting that that's another. Income Stream. So you WANNA look at multiple income streams so You'RE GONNA do a website presumably can't just do a podcast without a website. You absolutely have to do a website too, and when that traffic builds on that website, it becomes its own income stream. So all of these things. That block talk you've got do a lot of downloads for it to really be profitable but look at two hundred dollars a month off a blog talk five, hundred from another sponsor, all these little pieces up and they can make the difference between being a success or a failure. Interesting interesting. So at least so far we've talked about you know having. The podcast generate leads for whatever the businesses products and services are as probably the lowest hanging fruit as far as monetization models goes sounds like so far. Sponsorships is the second weather that's through something a platform like Bartok radio or going out in manually landing sponsors by kind of pitching sponsorship packages to different companies that you think would make a lot of sense and I. Imagine at least I always think of kind of affiliate sponsorships to be very similar. Obviously, you don't have to. Go Out and pitch any audible or any of those kind of companies to allow you to promote them on your show that one is just straight up an affiliate commission. So you're gonNA earn however many new customers you're able to generate for those services what are some of the other best options around monetization or best additional ways because like you said in each little piece can can add up to a bigger overall hole. What are some of the other pieces we can play with here? It will affiliates have worked for me in the past, and then they felt the past Commission Junction, Services Lineup these affiliates. Some of them can be great I know a Guy Jordan Goodman he has money answers dot com. He was a long-term writer for money magazine noted author, but he earns a living off of his affiliate. Relationships with different lenders with different financial advisers. All of these things he's getting a piece of and he's doing incredibly well, he's one of the success stories that I quote in my book and he's really the ultimate advertiser supported, but he's also compiled an amazing mailing list. Of things like that, you have to, you have to have tools and you have to have giveaways to build a mailing list because your potential sponsors are almost always gonNA, watch it do an EIB last. So I talk about the fact that you have to do a newsletter your newsletter alone and become a monetization tool when it gets widely read enough and look every. Email service out there gives you analytics how many people open it, how many links get clicked everything else you can use that as a sales tool as well, and the newsletter has the additional benefit of. Actually, increasing your downloads, your listenership because when you send it out people. A lot of people will forget about you. I listened to that once it was really good. Oh, forgot all about it. How many podcasts have you experienced that with? So newsletter is great and then you need to think out of the box or sponsorships. For. Instance. My demographic is fifty percent or higher six figure earners, and they were forty five and up, which is a great demo for different luxury items, financial services, tools, things like that. I actually had a gourmet coffee service or May roasters sponsored the company for while we're into preparing for. Tension, disruptions emergencies not straight prepping were not. Per Se, but I believe that you should always be ready for a natural disaster or something. That could disrupt your community for a few days up to a week or two. So we had emergency. Preparedness Food, they were a big sponsor for while that kind of died out. So you're you're sponsorships some of them will last for years and years others of them will burn out because your your audience gets saturated in six months and they'll be gone onto the next like audible for was direct sponsor of mine. It was great for six months after that it just petered out and they said become an affiliate. And I said Okay and. Like I say the affiliate things have not focused on as much as I could but affiliates can be very profitable like when you put stuff up from Amazon, on your site, if you've got the affiliate code, People Click it time, they buy it, you get a commission on it. So there's lots of things that you can do just think that unless the affiliates pay huge commissions, the numbers that you need to raise, it are probably not going to be. Enough to be worth your while but if somebody pays five hundred or a thousand. or every account they closed from you and they're credible they actually wind up paying, which is another story then though for affiliates where you can get them. So the phillies pay thousands of dollars for one account that convert or one need that converts and you don't have to do any work for that for sure. So how would you go about finding those opportunities? Those affiliate deals that you could potentially lineup as sponsors for the show. I'd start. With the commission junctions and see what they have and then I would. See what other shows and websites similar to yours or doing what sponsors they have. You don't have to. You don't get points for originality in sponsorship opportunities. So I if I was going to be a podcast. Instructional Monetization course like you I was GonNa Knock off your site. I would go see who your answers are. I'd approach them know I look for the networking opportunities. And, that all goes down to what we said about figuring out who your market is getting a demographic profile of your audience and then trying to fit it into as many different. Sponsorship opportunities as you can you know like for viral podcasting, thinking about sponsorships at this point but for my other show my my cash cow show in a financial survival network I'm always on the lookout for new sponsors and and new ways of doing it if you're in the podcast realm teaching people how to do it. Heil or other met Microphone Matt you factors. It will be a place where you wanna go equipment maybe mackey or barringer whoever they're all potential sponsorship opportunities and if you can't get the sponsors, you can always put their equipment up from Amazon on your home page with a link. So you get a few bucks every time someone buys it passive income. You Know Pat Flynn's the master of that. He's got a lot of ideas on it and you can take advantage of it as well. No reason you can't one concern that I hear from time to time from different focuses. How do I balance? If I want the podcast to generate clients for my own business, how do I decide what's enough for? What's too much if I'm having other sponsors or if I'm you know sponsoring other businesses or other products or that kind of thing on the podcast how do I make sure I'm not cannibalizing my own you know income stream here if I am promoting my own stuff and I'm promoting other people's stuff what have you found as the best way to kind of balance those two things? So that kind of. Building when you're marketing products and services and your monetize your podcast that will kind of potentially lead to conflicts but. Always maintained integrity always be transparent and when you're getting these sponsors. If there's a real conflict that you can't really serve them and serve yourself at the same time. You have to say no to that one, but usually you can find a balance. Usually you're not gonNA have you're not going to be taking ads from direct competitors to what you're doing. So the key is Like I said tag ready always be true to what you're doing, and then you know let the prospective sponsor advertiser no that that you've got a potential conflict and have them sign off on it, and as long as you stick to that I don't believe conflicts are really a big issue. Yeah and I've I've found the same in my experience in working with clients in that as long as there's one hundred percent transparency and there is no, you know trying to pull one over on somebody I think that's where people get into trouble is kind of thinking. Well, if I just don't say anything, then it won't be a big deal and that being said that happened very often I think I've only I only know very few cases where that's actually happened and it was one hundred percent because there was just lacking transparency. So the other concern that I hear frequently with that same situation of you know, hey, I'm trying to promote my own products and services. But at the same time I've got these sponsors and that kind of stuff. When does it get to be too much for the audience so that it becomes a turnoff for them as listeners because everybody that listens to podcasts some of the more successful shows you know they'll hear three, five, ten minutes of sponsors at the beginning some do a little bit too beginning a little bit at the middle a little bit at the end. You know there's all kinds of different ways of going about it but we're have you found to be kind of the sweet spot of this is enough promotion and this is too much promotion in what kind of put off an audience. So, there's different types of advertising here different types of messages number one is the standard re roll post roll mid roll before the show starts, there's an ad spot in the middle, it breaks for an ad and at the end of people are still listening, which probably most won't be. There's another ad that's put in place right? That's the least effective advertising for podcasting. That's what blog blog talk radio kind of specializes in those types of ads like he said, hey, how did you get Gyco as a as a client as today, but we are big and Cross Blue Shield. I can't believe their advertising with few and I'll say I can't believe it either. It's so. Your website as sponsored by Blue Cross Blue Shield. Exactly. So the most effective type of Ad if you WANNA call it that is the law read or live endorsement where you're talking about a story and then you tie it in to your sponsor. All right. You say and that reminds me our sponsor. You know you're talking about identity theft or something like that and say, you can easily avoid that if you're using XYZ companies surface. Hey without naming names since they're not paying us but you know that's that's a very effective one another one that I use all the time is have the sponsor pay made interview them and I tell you up front tell you the audience. You know the X. Y. Z. Company is now a sponsor we're very grateful to them and. People understand that we don't just take anybody as a sponsor that we vet them as we can so that if any of our listeners actually use the service whatever they're going to get value and they're not going to get taken, so your credibility is online. Take these sponsors you have to vet them and know that they're going to deliver, and as long as you do that, you know there's a lot of ways to advertise. Other than a standard thirty, sixty ninety seconds spot which I think most people off anyway. Yeah yeah and I see exactly what you're saying there, and this has been really helpful Carrie I appreciate your time today to kind of bring us full circle here. If I'm a listener I'm either I've started podcast I'm considering podcasting and I'm starting to figure out the monetization side of things. What would be your top piece of advice for me where perhaps you see people going wrong or people getting off track what would be kind of your one, wrap it all up piece of advice be for those folks looking to monetize podcast. Be Realistic in your goals and don't just make a plan and put it aside and not really you would periodically his things change business changes the economy changes you change, you get better you need to go revisit that plan periodically and they did rocket up to date as see if you've deviated from it, the other thing is content. You should always air check your shows periodically have a third party either consultant do it or a close friend and you don't want. Gratuitous criticism, you want constructive criticism so that that way you'll stay on course and you'll be successful. Love it love it. So if you're listening and you're interested in learning a little bit more about the different ways, Kerry talks about monetize a podcast, go check out his book viral podcasting approving processed earn a six figure income from your show. You can also check out is main podcast, financial survival network, dot com that where you'll get an idea of the type of show that he runs in has been running for a couple of years now. So Carrie, thank you so much for coming on how people connect with you and get in touch with you. They can go to viral podcasting, DOT COM, send me the contact work ill at carry. Let's dot com sent me an email check out the book. It's on Amazon and you can order it through the site is will and we've got a podcast viral podcasting, which is going viral pretty quickly. Wonderful wonderful. Carrie thank you so much for coming on really appreciate your time here today this has been great and really looking forward to hearing how our audience takes what they've learned today and start making some money from it. Thanks for joining us for this podcast episode, and if you've been thinking about launching your very own podcast I created a twenty seven step checklist of the exact steps you need to follow to plan, create and launch a highly effective podcast for your brand. You can find that four free over at the PODCAST CHECKLIST DOT com.

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Hour 4: Jordan Davis

The Paul Finebaum Show

30:34 min | 4 months ago

Hour 4: Jordan Davis

"Fried passion and patron three of college. Football leaves here. This is paul finebaum. Show our four podcast. Jason bit sitting in for paul on. Espn radio the espn app. Siriusxm channel eighty one. Oh it is memorial day weekend. I'm just calling it kicked off. I know that you know. I still got work to do. A lot of you guys calling in today from your jobs. Which by the way is amazing. Thank you so much for giving me time and listen to me while you're at work can't thank you enough for just taking the time to consume what we do here. Spn but if it's going to be memorial day weekend that means we're going to have a little bit of fun in a few minutes. We're going to hang out with one of my buddies country singer. Jordan davis has had a couple of number one got single out right. Now just came out with luke bryan by dirt. You should by the song shameless plug but got me thinking. And i want you guys to chime in on this eight five. Five two four to seventy to eighty five. What what's the one concert like. You would go out and you want to see this summer. We're seeing touring return. Suddenly everybody's getting back out there and it's really inspiring y'all because like you think about what we've been through as sports fans you know and i keep using this one example. Put realistically as i watch right now. The knicks and the hawks go through warm ups. I if trae young hits game winning shot in the bubble it's cool. If trae young walks up in shusha spike lee after he doesn't it becomes a sensation. People madder right like the experience of watching games matters and we became so used to watching games over the course of the last year. Particularly nobody there that we've almost justified why that feels normal. It doesn't right. Seeing people in crowds feels different watching the celebrations and games feels different. Hearing a crowd roar after a touchdown is just a different sense and we spent all last fall watching college football in the nfl action. Would nobody in the stands for the most part occasionally some people in the stands but think about the music side of it i live in nashville have lived in nashville for twenty plus years this economy. I mean nashville itself. It's funny one of my neighbors. Lives a few houses down for me. It's a fiddle player for gary allan. gary had a bunch of hits in the late nineties. Early two thousands. And you know my buddy hasn't had a gig hasn't had a paying moment in what eighteen months at this point. A little over that. The way the touring cycle has run. You're talking about people here that haven't made money in two years. Oh another one of my buddies. Is the drummer for florida. Georgia line. he put out the tweet today. Show everybody where they're going to be on tour and it's just a reminder that we're starting to get back to normal but it makes me wonder what you would want to get back to normal for like country music's all about marathon festivals in and huge. Tours i remember when i was playing for the band perry and we were out on I think it was the water to where we were. We were onto a couple of times. We're brad paisley but one of the tours we were on with brad. There were four or five acts on the main stage and then another four or five acts. They were playing out in the parking lot. Like brad really put together an all day festival. Where starting in the middle of the afternoon. Like janet kramer was out there in a bunch of acts that were out in the parking lot and then once the got inside the amphitheater. And i think danny kaye might have been on that for a little while and darius rucker brad paisley all on one like all on one ticket. I'm surprised we're not seeing more of that this summer because realistically there's only so much money to go around right like we can't just go out and buy tickets everything so. We got to be a little selective. I'm surprised we're not seeing more huge tours. Put together just to try and capitalize on the cash that people have and make sure everybody's getting bang for the buck like do you is a fan. Wanna go see somebody. You've seen twenty times because they're back on the road. Do you wanna see brad again. Who puts on a great show. 'cause you know it's you know it's hard earned money you got one concert. Go to you. Go into brad or do you wanna see somebody new somebody up and coming somebody. Maybe you haven't seen live before you that that's such an interesting question to me as we look towards the summer and the fall and know that actual tours are going to be out there and actual shows are going to be seen emily's working behind the scenes on the show producers ordinary. Emily thanks for. I'm putting on the air all right so this summer. This fall if you could go see one concert. Is there anybody who loved. It's touring this year. While i'm not aware as she is touring or not. But i'm an expose myself as very much a zeleny also mixed between gen z millennial but i love tiktok but i've been obsessed with olympic. Olivia rodriguez new album sour dough. My gosh i cannot wait until i. I would love to be in a crowd of people seeing the saw the line from good for you like a dang sociopath. That is what. I am waiting for it to be around that group of people. So that's one thing. And then i also have a series of artists that i feel like helped me through the pandemic and one of them is a band called camp winch. will be touring and i am hoping to see. Then they are going to announce their red rock state and red rocks. Also one of my A bucket list items bucket lists venues to go. See a band dot and i think that camp would be and tastic To go see their red rocks should be on your bucket list. I'm an ad gorge in washington to your bucket list for you. Because i think the gorgeous actually prettier than red rock and it's just not as popular so you just add the gorge in washington. If you're going to be out you know gallivanting around on the west coast scene concerts. I think the gorgeous worth going for and by the way even though everybody knows i'm living in country music i've played on artists of all genres. Ben been part of a lot of different projects. I a pop tart through and through a love me. Some pop and olympia. Rodriguez record absolutely didn't disappoint really spectacularly. Well done in jason. You want to know my my my dream concert right now. Dream concert and our would be taylor. Swiss folklore lover combined with libya. Rick rodriguez because they know their friends their besties if they came together and like lord. Oh my gosh. I my heart would explode. That's the that's where it's been a lot of hard earned money on. Well i look. I think that's actually a pretty good call taylor by the way puts on a just a spectacular show not even a good show like she puts on a spectacular spectacular show and her her drummer matt. Shout out to map billingsley. Good buddy of mine absolutely loves. That gig is always loved working for taylor. Like she's just she's does a great job and you know for any for particular for me not gonna rage fifties. Her voice isn't always the best for me. It's not my favorite. But it doesn't matter because the song she writes are so stinking perfect that i would eat all of that every single day and fifty two times on sunday like it's absolutely great dua lipa. We're gonna go pop dua lipa would be on my on my list of artists. I would want to see liz. I know she also released a new single fat apple commercial. I'm also hoping that she has more tornados coming up soon. I get that she'd she'd kill. It need to breathe my favorite band. Probably right now has been for years need to breathe. They just put out a song with carrie underwood. they're going to be playing at the c. M. t. awards this summer so for any of you guys. That haven't checked out. Need to breathe Let that be the opening of the bookcase of need to breathe for you. Get in there. Check it out They do great stuff too. It's it's just fun and inspiring to see concerts. Come back emily. Where would you be on festivals. Because that's a much different like lollapalooza all this stuff. That's a much different world than just going to see an act. Like you're committing. To being in the thrones with the masses. Are you comfortable with that. I have never been a big festival person. I have more of a small venue. My favorite concert ever went to. I saw the band lawrence and a small club in philadelphia. So i'm much more of a small perform like concert venue. But i wouldn't be scared to do it. I just feel like it have to be the right context as well as the right price. I have gone to one festival and has actually when mumford and sons was kind of newer on the scene. They were throwing their own festival series of indie artists including high before they got big and that was a really great experience for maybe not experienced. I'd wanna do again. I think. I like i prefer not to be around smelly sweaty people as as little as i can but i think that festivals are really fun. Just maybe not my favorite thing. But i would be excited to go to these small intimate like concert venues. That are still packed. I like that kind of things where i could still talk and see these artists up close. I'm with you actually a lot of country. Music like you play festivals right every county festival every county fair every state festival. It's a festival world. But there's some festivals that we've played like when i was touring up in wisconsin. Everything great huge country fan bases. Put your out of the festival where you know that they've been camping out for three or four days. You're playing on the sunday night set. Which means you the last act. That's going on and you're seeing people that are just absolutely all over each other and like random making out in the third row and you're like god. Neither of you of showered since at least thursday and this is an outdoor festival. That's been hot discussing all day. Like i just. I don't know i'm just saying all right. You guys can chime in eight five five two four to seventy to eighty five. What are you excited to get back into like what who would you go out and see what's really got you hyped for memorial day weekend. Let's have a little bit of fun. Eight five five. Two four to seventy to eighty five speaking a music jordan davis coaching music. Artists is gonna join us next. Get his thoughts on his new single. With luke bryan his upcoming tour game brown and all things country music next on the paul finebaum show on. Espn radio jason. Fitz filling in for paul. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast do you own or rent your home share you and i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com denna quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy. Visit geico dot com today. That's geiko dot com. Wnba is on its way back playing basketball in a pandemic looks like this. No mask no six feet apart took put yourself in. Harm's way was scary decision. We are dedicating this season. To ron taylor the unity that we were able to experience with something that we won't forget and we can lean on as we move forward. I do it all over again because bigger than me bigger than my teammates. Espn films presents. One forty four presented by honda now streaming on espn plus finebaum show on espn radio the espn app and siriusxm channel. Eighty one eight five five. Two four to seventy to eighty five is how you get in on the fun. Jason fitz sitting in for paul today having a little bit of fun and we've been talking all day long about kickoff times and scheduling name image likeness. But we're we're having a little fun in the last hour of the show today before memorial day weekend officially kicks off for me. And when i think about having fun i think about bringing this guy on jordan davis joining us. You can check out his new single right now by dirt's company you've got you've got star power coming on this like you didn't need any starpower jordan but you got luke bryan coming on your songs like so. Walk me through that a little bit. Like when you've got a song you're really hype about and then you look at it and you've got all this motion behind it and then somebody says. Hey you bring luke bryan in on that. What's that process like. When it's going down for you. I actually his. I actually text luke the song I mean 'cause. I finished it and i this on just felt like mood brown and i was like man. I'm i'm going to look back and kick myself if i don't just give it a shot so I met luke at a golf event. A couple of years ago and really got to hang with him and i just sent him a text messages. That man this means a lot to listen to it. If it's something you wanna be a part of let me know. But that's how. That's how. Cain came to be on this team. So how nervous are you when you press end on that and like how many times phone before you get a response dude. It was like you know like me. Texan like the the girl in class waiting for text back For dude i was so i. You know 'cause i hate. I don't want like bluetooth to think i'm like bomb barton them with songs and all this stuff and like i hate putting people in situations where it's like you might have to say no like if you did like the song so i. I was very awarded. It gave him out of a minute. You don't even have to send me a message back when we worry about You know but i do. I was just staring at my phone just hoping to how it see. Luke texted me back. And that's a funny thing guys. Like i'll be honest with you of us. Everybody thinks that we just sit around and collaborate like making the music you make is such a real invulnerable thing and then when you're putting it out to your friends like there's a moment where you don't wanna feel dumb you don't want to feel like your music you don't wanna feel like they have to say they like it because your buddies you also don't want everybody involved weird about it you don't want anyone affiliated pressing like this is a real stuff for artists even really successful artists when they're trying to figure out if there's a collaboration out there so jordan like i totally feel that like there's this vulnerable moment to right. Yeah no i mean. Because like i mean dude i'm talking. It's like luke so busy with american idol. He's releasing his own music. He's got a tour. He's getting planned and it just aim. We're on the same label so it's like you know if he says no. I've gotta see this guy you know potentially play a show within a couple of months you know at a festival or something and i'm just like Like right after. I sent it. There was a thing of what are you doing. Dude why did you do that. Like luckily it worked out but Yeah there's definitely there's definitely there's a lot of nerves round that talking to country artist jordan davis on the paul finebaum show jason fitz filling in for paul. So you've got a bunch of tour and coming up Not only your own by dirt tour where you're playing dates but you're also gonna be out on the road with came brown and we've talked about this a little bit but anybody that doesn't know your bass like you went to. Lsu louisiana is part of you. You watched lsu winning national championship. And i think it's a little under told how many. Sec football fans there are in general this fall. They're going to be out on the road at the same time. So like is the trash talking. Are you cautious because lsu did not have agree year last year. Are you all back in or you're going to wait and see how it plays out before you start trash shocking especially kane being a georgia fan. Yeah no i'm all in. I'm not holding back one day. We're going to work on undefeated. We're we're gonna win national championship again. But that's my that is my mentality right now. And i'm i'm believing it until i see otherwise. Which is i mean amazing but you guys are actually playing to and you talked a little bit about this before but like so. I'll always go back to the garden like when i was a little kid. I used to save my lunch money. Because you know we didn't have anything grown up so i'd say my lunch money. When i was in new york i would go up to scalpers after the puck. Dropped her after the tip off at the garden. And i would just be like. Hey this is what i have. Can i get a ticket. And so i went to all of these different events as a little kid at madison square garden. The worst show ever played in my life was when the band. Perry open for blake shelton at madison square garden. Because the whole time i just had this adrenaline like for you look at the tour dates. You know you're going to be back. Be home you're going to be playing like what's your adrenalin routine. Going to be like to make sure that you can just appreciate the moment. I think you know that of like you said like being able to drink it in like when you're on stage and you know it's it maybe we look like we're having fun but there's a lot of things going on in our heads there's like we gotta get out of this song. Do this transition. I'm getting guitar. Change here. you know My movements for this like there's a lot of different things going on and you know our job is to make it look like it's second nature but in the back of your mind you're always thinking what's the next part of the show and i think for me when i go back to new orleans and i get that i'm on stage. It's gonna be just being like dude. Just stop for a second. Drink it in. Enjoy this moment When i have so many friends friends and family and crowd so it's like you know. Just i'm hoping that i just have that second to just stay up there looking around and just really drink that in. I mean you have to at some point right like that. I mean i say you have to. But that's easier said than done. I always tell people to like you know. I had a vocal mike in front of but a foot switch on the bottom. So if i stepped on the foot switch i could talk to command and so the number of times i'd say. Hey we're moving to this song. We're changing this and the settlers. Not if you got me and we would everybody not so. I tell people like if you're watching the show and you see a bunch of people not at the same time that really means somebody was talking to somebody. So here's the little communication moments that happened. So i gotta ask. You had a lot of success. And then kobe shut the world down right and so you've had a couple of number ones. Everything's going the right way then with the with the break. That comes are their nerves. When you're putting music back out and realizing now you got to recapture that momentum and get people back with you. It is into do the craziest things. We just sit. We just started talking about our show coming back and we have this list. With a whole album's worth of music that we've released during the pandemic that we've never played out loud and i've never had a harder time making a set list because i don't know how these songs go over and it's so in you can back me up on this. There's some some songs that are that are great on a record and recorded version of it but don't necessarily translate you know on a stage in pharma crowd and so i was sitting there at a piece of paper the other day for they felt like three hours like why is it so hard and it sank in of it. Well i haven't done this in a year and three months like so. It's you know those first couple of shows back are gonna be just figuring out where these songs need to fit And just kind of get in the flow of the settlers back. It's amazing when you're standing on stage with the song you love like this huge and then you out and you realize midway through like nope don't haven't going to have to remind this whole weird it really is like in and it just takes that getting out there and experience it because you know you can stay i don paper or even put it in a playlist and listen to it down but until you get that you know adrenaline fans out there. Everybody's heart rate elevated you. Just you just never know all right. Obviously i already asked you a little bit about lsu but looking at this season knowing that you're going to go fully undefeated but knowing that you guys have lord at home you gotta go to alabama am at home. Is there one game this year that you look at it and say man. I really hope scheduled me get to that one. I mean for me. It's always alabama like that's just like lsu alabama. I don't care throw the records out. You know who's doesn't matter where we're added where they're at mike. You always get up for it. So that's the one the one game every year if you just give me one. Lsu game to be at. I don't care if it's tuscaloosa or baton rouge. I want to be at that one. Well i i wish you the best of luck because george is going to be good this year and you know the last thing you need is came getting a big head and all this so just make sure no. It's just one step at a time lightly one step at a time. I'll tell you. I'm rooting for you. And then when i talked to him i'll tell him i'm rooting for hand it. It's fine you know what i'm excited to be on the tour so hey i'm not gonna trash talk too much because the last thing i wanted to kick me off of it but every chance i get we're definitely going to have some fun Me ragu dogs and him him ragging tiger. So it's gonna be hunter. I'm gonna talk to ryan clark and see what we can do to get you some lsu stuff that you can. Just you know grace grace. Cain with all right. Follow him on twitter at jordan. Cw davis most importantly check out by dirt. It's out right now. Wherever you get your music you'll get and check him out this fall like not only a great dude not only great musician but puts on a great show. So go checkout jordan. Jordan's gonna be on tour everywhere jordan goodman and so i'm so excited to see the world coming back to life because it means that we get to watch our friends make music in. You're one of those so keep crossing my ex for coming on with me. Man fits appreciate it and the joy right. Now and is real in nashville. Just knowing that music's about to come back out to the world and that these tours are going to be hidden is absolutely amazing. Eight five five two four to seventy to eighty five. You can answer question. You can also tweet me at jason fitz is. There's somebody out there that your super excited to see this summer. You can get in the get in a little bit of fun. We'll have a little bit of memorial day conversation. Have a good time together. It's the paul finebaum. Show jason fitz filling in on espn radio and the espn app. You're listening to the paul finebaum. Show podcast finebaum show on. Espn radio the espn app. And siriusxm channel. Eighty jason filling in for paul eight five five two four to seventy to eighty five. Get in on the conversation. You can hit us up. We're talking a little bit of music. Having a little bit of fun talking a little bit about early kickoffs also so you can get into any of that conversation with us at eight five five two four two seven two eight five but there's a conversation right now happening today around all of sports so that i think is important for everybody to listen to and it's about behavior what we're accepting were willing to allow and we genuinely mean you and me and everybody else around you see at some point we look at what's happening and specifically over the last few days. What have we seen. We've seen popcorn thrown on west. We've seen a russell westbrook. I should say we've seen trae young spit on. We've seen racial slurs. Thrown john marantz family for just being at a game. We've seen fistfights from fans it major league baseball games we've seen fans toppling over each other inside. Nhl stanley cup playoff farinas during games. And i look at all of it. And i think why. How are we allowing this to happen. And again i mean we. Because it's you and i have to have some level of responsibility. Fan base will always be defined by the lowest common denominator. I need you to really hear that when you about what it means to be a fan understand that the one negative experience that somebody gets from somebody in your fan base will define you. I'll go back to my first time ever stepping into a bar in nashville tennessee late nineties. Peyton manning era. I didn't really understand the phantom of college football because they didn't grow up in areas that loved college football now obviously the twenty five years ago. Now i love it i covered. You know that but this was my first experience. So i walk into a bar in hillsboro village in nashville where everybody was watching the game and it happened to be a game. It happened to be tennessee. Taken on arkansas. I wasn't thinking. I didn't know anything any better. I just wore a t shirt. I didn't know wearing a red t-shirt into a bar would get me in trouble. I barely walked into the bar. When i had beer thrown on me and then all of a sudden when i tried to watch the game people yelling at me at the top of the loan. Their lungs for the entire process. Why because they thought that. I came in making some sort of grandiose statements. I didn't it wasn't trash talking. I know that it was far beyond that and for a long time. I actually didn't really like the balls because of tennessee. Fans now later my touring life. One of my closest friends. had his calf tattooed with the checkerboard pattern from the end zone. Unfortunately i lost him a few years ago. But i still wake up every saturday in his honor. Look up at the sky and say go vol's because then how much it meant to him. So over time. I met great voles fans and it changed the way i thought about things. But that wasn't my initial experience and in fact my initial experience made me hesitant towards the entire team. I'm a raiders fan. And i understand what that means. I understand that people automatically judge how i watch games. What i'm going to say how i act. They judge it. Because raiders fans have created that. When i was on tour years ago we i was in a band at the time nobody ever heard of and we were opening for kenny rogers. I remember kenny. Saying hey always remember that. The perceived reality is the only one that matters and we all know. Perception is reality is a statement but kenny went on to say remember that not only do you have to live in the perceived reality but you helped create it. Something you did helped create the reality that is now your existence not always sticks with me not just from me but also for fans for behavior. How many years are we going to hear utah. Fans make the wrong statement in an game. Say the wrong thing. Say awful things without anybody holding them accountable. And i don't mean the organization. I mean the people sitting next to them. How do we change the conversation. How do we be better. The first thing we do is we demand better from the people that we actually have the power to demand better from the people in our lives. Think about this fall when you go into a stadium. What we're seeing so far is that people are pent up their aggressive everybody's going into these arenas to have a time but they get over the top because it's been a long time since we've been there act like we've been there such a phrase well someone so many of us haven't been there for so long now we get there. We obviously don't know how to act and when you don't know how to act when you can't act the right way you're not only making yourself look like an idiot. You're not only putting everybody around you at that game in a bad experience you making all of the fans that root for that same team look like idiots as well have a fairly famous. At one point my life disagreement with clemson fans. And it was. Because i was holding hosting my first ever game. show i should say on college football college football on espn u. was hosting it. With michael junior and elegance today dig and we were doing all sorts of features at the time on lamar jackson. Because lamar jackson. Don't know if you remember. This was very good but it turned into some perception that we were anti clemson because we were lifting up a louisville player. I'll never understand it to this day in my life how it got to wear it got but clemson fans got angry. They would just come at us after every single episode me particularly because i was the new guy on the block. Then we played a segment with crispy cream donuts. And i made a joke afterwards. That i don't like crispy cream which is true. I prefer dunkin donuts the crispy cream but it was a clemson celebration involving crispy cream donuts. That may clemson fan. Suddenly decide that i was an anti clemson monster. Not at all true. But the hate that was thrown at me and i mean thousands of tweets that were thrown at me at the time that included. You know threats to my my wife and my family included threats to me things that harm that they hoped would come it tainted my view of clemson fans and i talked about it on air i went on air and said you know what i'm gonna root against clemson fans now. I'm the first to say that. I could have handled that moment better. And since then i've met some wonderful clemson fans but one part of my message that i gave them that i stand behind right now to this day is very simple. We ask constantly for the players that wear the uniforms of the teams. We love to represent those uniforms the right way we ask constantly for every single kid wearing alabama tennessee. Your vandy pizza gear to make sure that they're always representing the school. When they go on. Break coaches say remember. You're representing everybody in this room. We asked the same coaches be better. Act better act like you're the adult that represents the institution that we're giving money to all of these things are what we demand of the people that wear the uniforms of the team that we love. Why do we not make those same demands of the people standing. Next to us in the stands. Why did we not ask everybody in our lives that are fans of the teams that we're fans up to be better to act better. Yeah of course it's it's a live event. There's going to be a lot of passion. There's gonna be a lot of trash-talk in for all of that but we all know where the linus why do we continually let people step over that line and then we looked at everybody else to solve the problem at some point. There's a very real solution to the way. Fans act that real solution of the people in their lives to turn around and say hey stop. Don't be that guy. Don't be that girl be better is what we ask from athletes all the time. It's what we ask from coaches all the time. It's what we expect from the universities in the programs that we support. Why do we not expected from each other until we do. We won't get any better. My hope is that we can figure that out. Thank you for to the paul finebaum. Show podcast the paul finebaum. Show airs weekdays on the sec network beginning at three eastern this remortgage scheme check out my podcast with insight and analysis on the top stories in the nba. Adrian forging ascii are insider extraordinary reaction. Breaking news this is the latest bomb and it def conversations with some of the biggest names in the league. Thanks again. i'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yes thank you always appreciate you. Having me listening. Subscribe to the wolves off wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Thomas Jay Oord

Carry The Fire Podcast

1:12:00 hr | 1 year ago

Thomas Jay Oord

"Welcome to carry the fire a podcast. We explored the big questions of life through the Lens of the good, the true and the beautiful. I'm your host Dustin cancer and my hope is that through these conversations with people of diverse and divergent backgrounds and beliefs. We can glimpse the world the new through each other's unique perspectives. I kind of thought there was a loving. God and Jesus is pretty cool. And that was about it. You know I didn't have much of a theology, but I remember. This book that I really didn't understand and the book is called You might know at called Omnipotence and other theological mistakes. and. That was the first time it wasn't. The power thing was a big deal, and I've worked with that a lot since then, but that was the first time. I really took seriously. An idea I think is. Is So fundamentally radical. And most people probably haven't thought much about, and that is the idea fundamental openness thought. That God really experiences time moment by moment like we do. Hey everyone today on the part of we are joined by Thomas J Ord Thomas a philosopher, theologian, author and all around good. And our conversation Tom Explains the INS and outs of open and relational theology. And explains why it might be good news if God has a different kind of agency or power than the standard omnipotence. Many of us have been told is the only game in town. Let's dive in. Thanks for taking the time. Hey It's my pleasure looking forward to I feel like. I have had this with a few people were I've heard I've heard like your voice. The Nafta feel like I, know you. Just slightly. No, you don't know, but that's okay. I listen to either or your podcast or maybe Dan coax. It must have been. On. and. He was on my. That's what it was I was on his way back. Okay! We talked we talked about Trusting your experience. Yeah, I don't remember the theme I just remember you talking about your podcast orienting around the true, the good and the beautiful. Yep, that's what I try to do. awesome. Well I like to Forget if I warned you or not, but I like to start out as people What gave them a sense of wonder when they were a kid? Okay. What would give me a sense of wonder? I was a person when I was younger. Who was in awe of? Famous ACETATES I. Spend a lot of time collecting sports cards sending letters off to athletes to get their autographs. I. Don't know if that's quite what you're looking for, but. That caught my attention when I was a kid. Sports everything. Just about everything I mean I don't really like hockey but I actually got into hockey collecting hockey cards just because I had basketball baseball football but it was mostly the three major American Sports Football Basketball Baseball, and do you remember what it was about? That that like! You were not the ethics. WAS IT Like seeing them do this. On Your TV or live or like? Yeah I really didn't see it live. I was a strange kid in that, my family didn't have a TV, so we I would watch TV. Occasionally somebody else's house, but there was something about athletes. And the strive for excellence. That attracted to me. you know of course I was playing athlet- athletics as well and I was doing that a lot so. Kind of those the combination of enjoying the activities and appreciation for excellence. I think probably. Made me have a sense of about who they were all right. so you recently started up the Center for open and Relational Theology which I just signed my my supportive Banks glad to maybe so. Some of the listeners will have heard me talk about process, philosophy and theology bit I try not to overwhelm people with it because I liked, but You know we've had fuller on here and John Cobb But maybe. Give us an understanding of what open really at the allergy. Is. Yeah well I think of open relational theology as a label as kind of a a broad umbrella under which sit process theology. Open I'll call it evangelical. Open theology various relational theologies some feminists, some Wesleyan, some sort of a hodgepodge of thing, but what? Creates that. Is the two words open relational, so relational means that God is Don only one who affects US influences the world, but we have an effect on God which most people I know if they've hung around the church very much. They think that's a pretty obvious idea. But If you've read much Christian theology, it's not a common view amongst the major theologians, like Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, John, Calvin, Martin Luther Amin Most of those folks thought that God was perfect, and because God was perfect God couldn't change in any sense whatsoever and any kind of influence that we might have upon. God would mean some kind of change in God. Therefore, God couldn't be influenced. Rope and a relational theology rejects that view. It says that God is really influence. At least God's experience is influenced by what we and really all creation do. And then the open side of that is kind of the more radical claim. It's the idea that the future is open to God A lot of folks feel pretty good. I think today saying God has predestined everything but openness folks take it a step further and say not only has God. Not Fore ordained everything. God can't for know everything that's going to happen because the future is inherently open is not yet decided. Okay. That's helpful and then it seems like. So this would encompass more of A. Or maybe you can answer this question lately. Does this only work for Christians as that? Is it a smaller umbrella? That's you're thinking is is only in that space. No No you know i. a fairly significant number of Jewish scholars fit in the open and relational label not as many Muslim scholars, but I do know some open relational Muslims affect early in the history of long there was a whole sect of Muslim theologians who were open relationship didn't use and language, but they thought the future was yet to be known You know I suppose you could be Hindu and a lot of other traditions I don't know that many Hindus. Thinkers but Hinduism has openness for a variety of ways of thinking, so I suppose. Buddhism you know at least the formal, the pure land Buddhist. Don't have a god, so they wouldn't make that kind of claim. Although the majority of Buddhists do believe in God because they have sort of a synchronous kind of religion. But I would think if I was a Buddhist who believed in God. I would be drawn toward open a relational thought simply because Buddhists have this fundamental sense of the ongoing -ness of time, and the interrelatedness of the universe and I in via Daniel fit. Yeah, and. How did you kind of land in this place I've heard you talk about it a bit, but I'm sure a lot of our our listeners haven't like what. Would you describe as like A bunch of smaller steps, or was there something like a bigger issue? The con turned you onto it. Yeah, there are a lot of things I think. Fundamentally I think it was my deep intuitions about love. That drew me this direction I. You know I grew up a person pretty committed to try to be a Christian a fairly traditional Christian home and church, and I for a while was a pretty hard core evangelist, and did a lot of praying for people to get healed, and that sort of thing and then. I ran into some really smart atheists and agnostics in the form of reading books and articles and They had such good arguments that the reasons I had for believing in God. Didn't make sense to me anymore and so I was an atheist for a short period of time. but I kept sort of at the quest of trying to figure out the whole God question. and. Two things were really fundamental, and that one was this quest are the search for meaning and my belief, that and still today my belief that it's hard for me to understand anything to be ultimately meaningful if there isn't something like a ground for ultimate meaning that most people call God. And also my deep intuitions, at I ought to be a loving person that other people ought to love and my that. That intuition ought also have some kind of source or foundation. Or, ground. But you know I thinking today, I'm I was recently asked to preaches. A sermon at a church in our area, and they were giving me the the texts that had to us, and so I was thinking about that text and it. It kind of brought me back to a time when I was in college in the late eighties. And I was gonNA write this paper. I kinda gone through the shaft of being a core evangelist to then being an atheist, and now of just trying to feel my way. Kinda back into believing something and I. You know I. I kind of thought there was a loving God and Jesus is pretty cool, and that was about it. You know I didn't have much of a theology, but I remember. I remember reading. This book that I really didn't understand by this process. Philosopher called channels Hartshorn. And the book is called You might know it monitors your listeners bill. It's called Omnipotence and other theological mistakes. And That was the first time it wasn't. The power thing was a big deal and I've worked with that a lot since then, but Dow is the first time I really took seriously. An idea I think is go. Is So. Fundamentally radical. And one most people probably haven't thought much about, and that is the idea fundamental to open his thought. That God really experiences time moment by moment like we do. Like I think that is hugely radical and I've. Since that time trying to work out the implications of that idea. Yeah? I always found that to be. An odd concept especially if I if I tried to Think back like before. The Cosmos right before anything was in time and trying to. Talk about Like any A relational. Ground that had no. Sense of progression over time in it that never. I could never like, and that doesn't mean it necessarily is wrong, but it. It never sat. In any way that I could make any sense of I guess. Yeah I'm with you I I. I'm sure then and I. I know now, but I'm sure then. I kind of A. Thought God was experiencing time kind of like we did. Otherwise you know so many biblical stories wouldn't make really any sense. And I probably then had a view that God wants existed timelessly. And then for some. Weird reason maybe love decided to create a world with time and therefore started experiencing time. And I didn't I probably thought that in the future God would still experience time i. don't know, but I had a sort of a view that. Today, a guy philosopher named William Lane Craig endorses that God is essentially timeless, but enters into time after. The world That's probably what I thought. But the implications I don't think that really makes sense now. But the implications of believing that God has always experienced. Time that there was something before. Another universe I mean I'm still sort of working out the. Implications the applications the assumptions that go into that way of thinking yeah I mean anytime. We're going kind of free universe. There's a lot of lot assumptions going on whether you whether you're going multi-diverse or Right I mean even just the. Christian view of that is still really weird and yes. Has! Has Not I mean it. You run into problems. No matter what because we're so time bound in our. Thinking that it's. Really hard. To figure out, what would an infinite regression mean if anything which seems to be? Nonsensical and what? What then would a time before? They look like so. Yeah, I don't know. We gotTA. Find some kind of weird answer I guess. So I kind of wanted to. Go a lot of times, I don't The good true beautiful lenses aren't as obvious in kind of the way of framing discussions, but I thought it might be fun to do. Can I ask you what How does an open in a relational thinker think about this like how is that shifted for? For you maybe personally. Yeah. Yeah so I want to make clear that I don't speak for all open a relational thinker, so I'm just sort of this is how about it as someone who identifies as such, but others would disagree maybe point out the places. Someone might disagree if you if it POPs okay yeah. I have. I noticed something. In fact I was thinking about this in preparation for this talk with you I've been thinking about it for a while, but it kind of coalesced in my mind. When I was very young. It was the good. That was most important. And I understood that primarily in terms of. Being a good boy, being a good son, being a good kid in my church, being a good student kind of certain following certain moral codes. Dutiful. Dutiful, yeah, and I'm not saying there's anything necessarily wrong with that, but that was sort of the highest goal for me. And? Then as I got kind of later in my teens and twenties, I think we're shifting toward the true. It was shifting toward in in my case, having a defense doing a kind of classical apologetic, so I got the right answer, and for a while in my life I thought I had an inherent Bible that I could prove. I had the truth. And so Goodness never left, but it was I spent a lot more time on the true. And then more recently in my life, the aesthetics the beautiful has become more important. I spend more time in the outdoors and I'm a photographer and. I was a musician earlier, so wasn't like I. was you know the beautiful wasn't important then either but So all of these have functioned in important roles and continued to info function important roles. But I actually think of my primary goal as love, and that not being a fourth, but it being something that transcends the three, but incorporates them. So maybe that's kind of more abstract, and you want to go, but I think of love sometimes asked me to do things that are not. Good in the sense of following the rules love sometimes asked me to do something that goes against what someone thinks is true and I'm putting quotes. Scare quotes around these things because you know, these are partly subjective etcetera. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean as far as I understand it like You know if you're talking about the the good that you're in the beautiful like get one of the. The ways to think about that philosophically is at the root. There are all kinds of getting. Somewhere similar they become inextricable from each other. So I like the idea of kind of framing in love. I kind of do that with wonder, that's kind of why I start because I think You need to be able to. To zoom out and not. Just live in one of those i. think all of them. Yeah on their own. There's not there's not a balanced. It's almost A. What was a bit of a tripod? Kinda, thing, you know Not yet you don't. Want to push that analogy too far, but I. Don't know there's something helpful to to trying to balance those out. Yeah, and there are certain times and moments in which one might predominate you know and I have three daughters all of them are now out of college, so they're older. And what I told them was the good thing to do when they were younger is not the same thing I tell them now. So what good is is partly relative to what their situation is. You, you, we've mentioned processed in. You've read some of that. When I think about these categories I think about some of the lines from Alfred North Whitehead you know he has this one line at the end of process and reality when he says love is just a little bit oblivious as to morals, by which he means, you know these certain codes we have in place are are helpful, but Sometimes we have to. transgress them in the name of love or another line in think this is a F- might be the function of reason I came. Anyway, he says It's more important that proposition. Be Interesting than it. Be True. So, he's made a claim there that there's something about interest that can transcend even truth now another another points he says, truth ads, interest, but. The the basic point. Is he saying? If you're trying to find these fundamental truths, you can no absolute certainty. something. That's interesting might actually be more important than that kind of goal. But again like you said they're probably inextricably linked. I, just think sometimes one will come to the fore. That's interesting. Something about what you're just saying made me think of. The we all know that. Truth is important, and that's a broad term, and it can mean these smaller truths of. you know. Is fact true in that can matter in the case of trying to do justice for someone like What is the actual situation truth as opposed to a lie, but then we get stuck on kind of capital, T. Truth and. Those often end up being. Either you know shackles or weapons And I started wondering if there's like I'm sure you know the dunning Kruger effect where you know the the. The more less you know about something, the more you think you know about something And I. Almost feel like that operates in terms of. Thinking about? You know the big tease certain truth like the. The more you. Allow Yourself. I think a lot of it's allowing yourself to know but the The information you allow yourself taxes like. It becomes clear that. It's really hard to fit it all in one perfect. Kind of bucket and have it. Just all lineup by things are too complex to and. It doesn't mean that there's not a way that reality is, but I think you start to give more humble about what that possibly could be. Yeah those are important ideas. I mean I think it's hard to function well in the world unless you presuppose. There's something like as you put it away. Reality is or something like a Capital T. truth. But that's not the same as knowing what that truth is, or at least knowing with certainty. You Know I. I live a strange life in many respects in that I spend a lot of time in academic settings. Scientists theologians philosophers. And I spent a Lotta time sorta just with your average person on the street especially in. Churches Evangelical Churches. And It's interesting. The kind of claims People WanNa make with regard to truth. It's not. Uncommon when you're in the academy, especially in religion to hear, people say make claims about truth. That sound awful lot like. Extreme relativism like we ain't got any idea about reality is really like it's you know it's all in our heads is sort of a content skepticism was we talk about it and I? Don't buy that on the other hand. Sometimes I'm in more conservative settings and you know everybody is supposed to all agree on the capital T. Truth, and we know what it is it like I'm not there either living in that space in which you believe, there's Capital T. truth, but you can't capture it fully. It's can be an uncomfortable way to live, but it seems like it's the most authentic. Yeah, the more. I've kind of thought through that and heard people talk about it I feel like. That tension is in a sense what faith actually is? The tension between those things the I don't know. but I believe I I. I got some reasons to think this but I. I definitely don't have it in my hand. But it changes the way that act right it. That's the thing that I'm like okay well. For better worse, this is what seems to be. Right and I'm going to be open to hearing new things. Be Open to hearing from people from different points of view. But I. Don't know that that tension. I think is difficult. But there's a there's an energy in a vibrance that can be found. I think as you learn to live in that space. Yeah I totally agree with you I'm just finishing up another book while it's a follow up book to this. God can't book and this one's called questions and answers for God can't and one of the chapters is on the question of whether or not I can be sure. That, God can't control others, which is the main argument of God can't and so I kind of play a little bit with what I think of his two extremes on the one hand blind faith. You know you just believe it. There's no arguments. There's no evidence that makes no sense at all, but I just believe it. And on the opposite side, absolute certainty, you know, I have no shadows with no shadow of a doubt. This is the right thing both those extreme seem to me to be wrong headed and I worry about people who gravitate there I don't know where the proper balances maybe it depends on the situation and the subject that we're discussing, but something like living in between those two extremes makes not only the most sense, but as you mentioned seems to be a vitality there. As far as like The problem of evil which I think probably a lot of people listening are familiar with Kind of this classic dilemma. Where if God is all powerful? And dot his all good then there shouldn't be evil or suffering in the world. Is was thinking through that a a part of your process of kind of coming to open a relational. Yes definitely you know I started thinking about that. When I was in junior high, probably him I. Didn't have you know early in my life I sorta gave a free will argument. Look, you know we're have to be free. God would create us robots, and that's the answer to evil, but I didn't take me too long to realize it had to be stronger than that. Because a lot of bad things happen that. No one did and no one used their free will wrongly and you know some people will attribute all that sorta stuff, too satanic or demonic forces. There was a time my life when that that explanation played an important role. It doesn't play an important role anymore in my life, but I was wrestling with the questions of evil when trying to think about whether or not there were demons who were acting in the world and warfare. I think I've always been committed to the notion that we have some kind of freedom. That just seems so obvious to me. Even though a lot of people want to you know say were free and also determined simultaneously, but it just seems so fundamental to my experience. I think that is always kind of shaped. My I spent a piece and the puzzle on the way. Toward searching for what I think is a full out solution to this question of evil. And so in open, a relational thought Kind of the pressure valve in that scenario is. I think you usually say And this is kind of why the book is called I think. God can't is the God can't prevent suffering or Handedly. And what do you mean by that? Yeah I'm glad you caught that because the title doesn't add that in. And you know so people see that title or hear me say God can't and they think well Gaza doing anything you know. God's sitting on the sidelines. Or maybe this is the God of Thomas Acquaintance. Who's just sort of a or maybe Thomas is a good reference here. Maybe this is like the the force on Star Wars. Who's just sort of the stuff in the universe that has to be there, but doesn't really do anything other than make sure of things exists The God. I portray really axe. Really is an act or cause in the universe. And But can't single handedly or all alone. Bring about particular results. So that means that God is always active in any situation whatsoever, but there also other creature Lee actions are actors and factors and forces and God can't control those and I find this to be a helpful way to think about evil, because if God can't control others than that means God's not to blame. We shouldn't say God allowed or permitted the evils of the world, because God couldn't stop them single handedly I i. mean I think for me? That may be the biggest. Reason, that I was drawn towards. Process an open kind of thinking was. Because I had so much cognitive dissonance about. That issue in the first place And you'll see some people like. The the problem. I think with the traditional kind of story is okay. We'll letting people act, but then sometimes he'd just stepping in and single, handedly changing something, and then you're, this can undermine though of okay, but what about you know? There's this avalanche on a hill in this orphanage gets. Like he got dropped a a line like you know had the GonNa walk, or you know what how hard would that have been to? and. What do we mean by love? If God is loving in that situation and can act and doesn't act and it just it kind of unravels, if you if you push on it, I think. Exactly yeah. When I talk about this in various context I like to bring in all kinds of everyday examples to illustrate that we wouldn't think someone is loving who. Had the kind of power to stop. Something allowed it, so you know I got lots of illustrations. Here's here's one suppose I'm with my daughters out at the lake and I look up in one of my daughters is starting to drown. Now, suppose I could jump in and prevent drowning by swimming out during rescuer, but I allow her to die. No one's going to say well, you know that Tom. What a loving guy he is! He's just the perfect father. He just lets his kids get killed or drowned. We could save them. No one's going to say that, but most people think. Has the kind of power to singlehandedly rescue anyone at any time, and yet for some mysterious reason God either permits allows, or even sometimes people say causes this kind of deaths, and it just doesn't make sense with what we understand love to be. Lardy hold onto that then. Well, I. Think there's a number of reasons one I. Think some people see the dissonance. They see the tension. but they have this. The M-. Majority of people I know who believe in God. Their default mode is that God has controlling kind of power. I mean think about the movies. We watch this old one, but maybe you remember it Bruce Almighty. I never saw that actually you know I. I mean it's. Yeah it's the basically God played by Morgan Freeman gives Jim Carey. Power to control others. Will you know when it's a good illustration that when? Hollywood or somebody makes a movie about God. Most of the time it's about power like it's not bruce all loving. Because most people, their default is God is a powerful God. The only question is what does it power entail I think guys powerful. I just don't think God has kind of omnipotence that most people think so. I think part of it is default mode. Another part of it is I think people. Believe that they have more hope for things turning out right if God can do it single handedly and I understand that one you know the problem is is that if God can do it then God's doing a Piss poor job of it right now. You Know God is leading lots of people. For whom this Ghana God could have stopped or saved so once you start thinking through the problems with that view I think he start getting attracted to the possibility that you know. Maybe God doesn't have that kind of power, and so then what some people do is either they'll. Not Believe in God at all anymore, or they'll have kind of a Da God who sits on the sideline, eating popcorn, or they'll have like I said earlier. The Star Wars, force God who's kind of like the Google of the universe that you have to have them around for things to work, but never really actually does anything particular never acts as an actor. So there's kind of some more sophisticated ways and other one is to say I. Believe in God but God is so far beyond any categories in my mind. God is utterly unknowable. Some scholars will go that direction. I find all these unsatisfying, but that's kind of to answer your question I. Think the way some people try to deal with this. And for you, would you like? Are you comfortable using kind of the? Process terms in that lure guide can lure things towards good, or what is your preferred way of talking about what God's action is in? Yeah I don't use the word lure very much I. Don't even use the word persuade very much. If you know you know process dot, you know those are kind of the to go to words. lure for me. This is just the way I think. Maybe people think differently I think of like Somebody. And they've got a lure in the water. And it's not really acting upon the fish is just sort of dangling there and the fish has to decide whether to go for it. Well I. think There's free decisions and is in in this thing, but I think God is actually acting and doing something and lurid sound to me like God's little passive. Persuade I'll use that probably more often than than the other, but. When Whitehead uses the phrase or the words, coercion and persuasion. He doesn't mean them in the kind of popular way that we use them today like if we say China coerced Julia to give up some of their gold resources. Well what we mean by that is they put a lot of pressure on them. And they said you know we're not to give you X. Commodities, or we're not going to help you in this situation. Whereas coercion and the metaphysical senses being the only 'cause. What philosophers call being sufficient cause, and then persuasion than means being one of many causes or being one alongside other causes that that's just not the way most people use that word, so that's a long way to say I've tried to come and use other kinds of words, many of them biblical like call God calls us to thing. got I'll use the word influence because that sounds more active rather than you know lures passive I've got language like that. but sometimes I kind of revert to more philosophical words because those can be helpful to what what words would you use in that case? Well I I'll use the word general. The 'cause word I'll say. God is inefficient and final cause and that's drawing upon. Aristotle's categories of causes so like again my heads in this new this book that I've just finishing up coming out in July. I've got a section where I talk about God being an efficient cause and efficient causes kind of like think of a football player hitting another football player. There's two bodies. There's actually impact I think. God has that kind of causal capacities assisted God's not a football player God's at Omni present spirit. A final cause is something that is attractive and I think God attracts in the sense that would be where the thing would work better. formal causes the idea that there's possibilities for us to act and I think God provides those possibilities, so god is an efficient and final 'cause that provides formal causes in the world, so those kinds of more philosophical ways that I will use language when I'm talking with certain kinds of crowds. Not In churches. See say. I feel well. Maybe you, don't i. I don't know if I'm. Confusing stuff! I've read in New Your books versus. Tang. What's his name Chair mark curious. Curious curious cares. Who's taken some of your thoughts and expanded the and how they relate to prayer, whatever but I think the idea is that. The? The idea that God can't unilaterally do this. Do certain things is good news and why? Yes? I don't think we feel really landed there yet. Why? Why is that good news? Maybe I had explained it this way. I on average I probably get a letter a week. From someone who's read, guard can't. WHO's gone through some tragedy? been. Abused Ten a child die of cancer. been the victim of sexual molesting whatever? And they read that God could not have single handedly prevented. What happened to them? And they find that to be good news. because. They've been told, or at least they've in their minds. If kinda worked at other possible explanations. Caused. That doesn't sound so good. Guinot God is punishing you so God and had you raped? That isn't doesn't present a picture of a loving God. Another one. Is You know God abandoned me? God could have rescued me, but was off on holiday. God allowed or permitted these things. One letter I got from a girl whose brother raped her repeatedly as kid. She said she had a dream in which in the dream God comes over to her while she's being raped and holds her hand. As, she says for a couple of days that was comforting, but then she realized hold on saying God is here holding my hand instead of stopping the rape? What's going on there so for people like that? It's good news to hear the God wasn't allowing or causing what happened to them but God was there present working to try to persuade those who harmed her not to persuade, but unable to singlehandedly stop it. So I think for a lot of people who. grew up with the more traditional view of God and God's power specifically. This. There's a lot of this. That's hard to reconcile with the what they've grown. Especially, if you come from a background where you have a certain view of what the Bible or whatever your scriptures are supposed to be How do you end up talking to people in that place about how the Bible relates to this understanding of God? It kinda pins in the setting, but sometimes especially when a big audience. I'll start off with a really bold claim. I'll say. I've got a thousand dollars to give anybody in the room. Who can find a passage of scripture? That says God. Alone brought about some consequence or result. And there was no creature, league, contribution or cooperation whatsoever. And then I'll say and I mean the beginning of the world in Genesis, the hardening of Pharaoh's heart, the resurrection of Jesus any miracle, you WanNa bring up the end you show me a passage that explicitly says God's power was controlling in the sense that God was the only one acted who acted, and there was no creature Lee contributions. Now what some people will do is, they'll find a passage. That only mentions God. And, they'll say Oh, here's here's the proof. This passage says God healed ex, but it isn't says you know I was God healed Sarah, but it doesn't say Sarah cooperated well. There's an obvious example, and I'll say hold on a second that the argument is does a say God. Did that and Sarah didn't cooperate or any other factors didn't cooperate. And I've yet to have to give up my thousand dollars. What we've mostly done as people is had a particular view of God's power, the back of my mind our mind, even if we don't even if we're not hardcore, Calvin who think that God controls everything even for you know Wesley and Armenian or whatever you think you have free will, but we've thought that guy could if God wanted to occasionally singlehandedly. Dick something control something. But the text never explicitly uses that kind of language so I'll start there with the audience and they'll say oh. I'll make that bold claim. And then I'll start moving into some biblical examples in which explicitly says I can't do. Some things like God can't tell a lie. Her God can't grow tired or God cannot be tempted or my favorite one. Is this line where the Apostle Paul? Says? When we are faithless, God remains faithful because God can't deny himself and say look guy can't go against God's own nature and rarely. Does anybody fight me on that? and then I'll move into what philosophers and theologian, the Christian history of said about God not being able to make rocks big. Even God can't lift it or make two plus two equal, nine, hundred, seventy, two or whatever. And then I'll say yeah, but what about God's nature can you know? Can God say you know? This existing necessarily really sucks. I'm. GonNa stop existing. And so once I start sort of building these arguments making bold claims bringing in theology bringing in scripture. It doesn't I'm not saying everybody's convinced, but things soften and people are starting to open up to this possibility that maybe God's love is inherently uncontrollable. That's really helpful so I have a question from one of the patrons in the show Johnny. I'll paraphrase of what he's saying, but he he wants to know. Your thoughts on. The counts of miracles in the Bible. Some of these seemed like they'd be kind of big things happening. Whatever do you believe those happened? Do you believe there are meant to be hyperbole? Do, you believe Somehow they might. Be, miraculous without God being coercive and actually have happened. There's A. Broad set of things you're addressing question yeah! And forgive me if I'm sounding like. this is an exercise in shameless book promotion, but. Next month, this book comes out called questions and answers for God. Can't and there's a whole chapter miracles so I'm going to answer your question here, but if you want more my encourage, check that book out. I do believe miracles occur. one of the big problems with saying that is. We have to define what we mean by miracles, so you know they're Salman. The more progressive tradition who will define miracles, either by saying all of life is a miracle which I reject because that means you know my cousins. Rape is a miracle. I just can't go that way. Or they'll say Yes, is happen all the time 'cause they're in your mind. You just see the world as miraculous and so there's no objective reality that changes in the world is just the way you perceive it i. don't think that's the way to go either I mean obviously I think way we see the world is influenced by how we look at it, but a Marie list. I think actual things happen that go beyond what I just can imagine. So. I think miracle should if defined as good. Unusual events. At involve God's relation to creation. So these good and unusual events it involve God's relation to creation. mean as I understand it. Miracles never involved God controlling or being the only actor. And once you have that kind of frame in mind. It's absolutely wild. How many biblical passages support it which Jesus talks about the faith of the person who's healed or the faith of their friends or talks about some kind of cooperative venture in fact, the vast majority of miracles that involve healing extra systems You know those kinds of things they fit really nicely in the end, the view that there has to be the cooperation at some level of reality for them to happen now the nature miracles are harder by nature miracles. I mean like Jesus Walking on water. Parting the Red Sea that sort of thing. I can account for those, but it takes a little bit more theoretical speculation, related chaos, theory and quantum stuff, and those kinds of things. Is that in the news to? Actually, there's some of that in the uncontrolled love of God. So if if the person wants to look at chapter eight in there I talk about chaos, theory and quantum dependent. Scholarly Book that deals with a lot of the same right, yeah. Yeah So the short answer is yes I believe in miracles. Yes, my theory can account for the vast majority of miracles in the Bible. There's a couple that I I have a hard time. Actually seeing happened like the sun standing still or the axe head floating on the water I suppose I could probably figure out a way to make that work in my system, but I kinda doubt. Those actually happened in the world But the big ones like the resurrection of Jesus and the kind of healing miracles I can fit those very nicely in my view. I think the other. Big thing too is mench. Worth mentioning I think in your view I know in like a more process view Miracles are not defined as This kind of There's the static you know. Kind of the world is doing its thing, and then got breaks in breaks, the rules to to to make something happen and and a process view would be more like no, God's always working and that it doesn't break any rules because it's intimately woven into. Whatever's happening, anyway it. That's totally my view as well. Yeah. I mean I think even if you don't like process, thought or my thought, you still out of recheck night. Yeah, I mean this kind of supernatural interventions sound as if God is out there and occasionally sides to come here, but boy that doesn't fit well with most theology says God is omnipresent. The God is always working. That God sustains everything. God's never sort of just out there and were doing her own little thing got I think even if you're not a process person, you should say. God is always present in and. I I guess. I grew up feeling like. I was taught that but it. Didn't have any weight in the sense like. God's present in that he can see when you do bad things you know like A. There's an intimate. In dwelling of of everything I, think that I think that's the way most people are taught. Yeah. You think about it. When you'RE A kid. You're authority figures, probably another adult. And if you think of God in terms of another adult, that person has a spatial location, and that person not always around you, so you know you, it takes a little work to think about an omnipresent being who's also I. Think always influential. Yeah, he talked a bit about. that you of kind of shifted more towards the aesthetics and the beautiful. in how you purchase a lot of things Is there a flavor to like how that's changed? The way you view beauty in the world, the way you kind of take it in. Or or increase question I don't know. I don't know exactly how to ask that with now, but. I'm just curious about the effects of. De Frame of open relational thinking and how that affects how you encounter beauty. Yeah. Her two things come to mind one. I'm. I'm a person who thinks a lot about being responsible with my time. And using my time wisely even. Not that I'm a workaholic I. Mean like I WanNa play hard to but I I i. just want to use my time well. And I think before. HAD WE CALL IT MY AESTHETIC TURN? I kind of felt a little guilty. Spending too much time in art because I really wasn't sure really mattered, you know. Like, it wasn't as important as keeping the rules and knowing the truth. but now I have much more film US more justified. That's an important part of reality in my own only spirituality, but just the way I live in the world. So. I see a Lotta pictures of you out kind of hiking for days at a time and does that give you like the the justification we like this is good. I can go spend this good time. In, nature. I don't see that as frivolous like once did. I see that as Integral to My way of being in the world, my mental health And because I'm an oprah relational theologian, and think that what I do has an effect on God I think my time in the in the wilderness is not only good for me. It's probably good for God. That may sound strange but The the notion that God is relational and that we can have an effect on. God has radical implications. I think that far greater than most people realize and they've been helpful to me. and I'll the share another. I used to. Go to church. And be really. Disengaged with the worship music. and the reason was is I i. thought to myself. Why are we saying the words were saying? Most of them are like praises to God God your. God. You're mighty. You're so cool you're you know whatever? more eloquent than what I'm saying here, but they're you know saying and I thought will God already knows that if it's true, you know if it's true God knows it. May Be all we're doing is just kind of reminding ourselves of these divine attributes. And that has the place, but. You know we could probably do that more effectively. Maybe in some other ways maybe music gets US jacked up emotionally high, and then were more open to these. Proposition claims about God's attributes. And maybe that's what's going I mean I'm the Kinda person who analyzes these things of church? At then I donned on me. That if God truly is affected by what I do. That my words of praise could actually make God happier. To use a really common for good increase God's overall wellbeing. that. My worship was more than just repeating attributes to myself and reminding me, but I could say things at actually actually could really jack got up. We might say. And changed my whole attitude toward worship now I still like some lyrics estimate all things are, but when I singing a song that I liked the lyrics, and the groove is good. I I can imagine God being happy. Happier in fact may be a tiny bit. Because of my activities and worship, and that's a benefit that open relational or process way of thinking about. God provides that you can't get in Thomas Aquinas or most Kelvin's theologies because God's not relational in that way in those views. Yeah imagine that freaks a lot of people out if you start pushing on it. Yeah. Are you. Makes me start thinking about some process of and some move Maybe, the stuff I've heard from Alan Watts where. And I'm curious for you. Let on this, but. Did like process theology the ideas the. Part of the idea would be the God is actually. experiencing. The world through creation yeah, have and not in some disconnected sense. Yeah, but God's experiencing the world through an electron and through Tom and through. A Sparrow and end. I don't know what do you? What do you think about that totally? Okay. I love that idea I love. In that case like when you were out on a hike in, you are seeing. Sunset with your pair of is right that are even different than my revising. Small Ways and that. That is adding to God's experience of the sunset. Totally Yep, rather than. God has just some objective view of the sunset. What is that even? If it's not. The only thing I think that actually could be is. The amalgamation of all of those subjective. Experiences of the sunset. At this goes back to an ancient debate. A and I think I mentioned earlier. We were talking, so forgive me if I'm repeating myself a bit, but. An ancient debate about what it means to say God is perfect. and. Not only ancient people, but twentieth century and twenty-first-century people. Understood, perfection and a very static kind of way. That perfect could mean only that there was no change because yeah, perfect could. Only if there was change, it could be only toward imperfection. And I think that's true of God's essence or God's nature, so I think God's nature is unchanging. It's perfectly the same eternally. But I think God's experience changes every single moment and every moment guards perfection increases as God increasingly takes in all of the experiences of as you said I think a corker, an electron and Tom and the mouse and everything and all of reality. process folks call this the die. PULL OUT! Of God I call it. God's essence experienced buying a the God's essence is fixed eternal, unchanging, immutable, impassable to use all those technical language God's experience changes moment my moment, it's mutable. It's passable its temporal, and it's not the God has two natures is sits. One is God's nature. God's others experience kind of like if we think there's such a thing as human nature, but you and I both are humans that. That we have different kinds of experience, God's got one nature that's fixed, but God's experienced changes moment by moment, and that makes so much better sense to me in terms of how I think about prayer how I think about love how I think about whether or not my actions make any difference alternate difference in the world to God I think it opens up a much more beautiful way to think about life. Yeah I'm with you there. I feel like as I've come into thinking. In some of these categories my. Experience of the world has grown a lot more beautiful. and. I think especially helped me to connect with. The. Present moment where? Beauty is being experienced And and not abstracting things so much. Yeah, yeah, that's good. Hey, everyone if you're already supporting the show through around, thank you so very much if you aren't yet. I wanted to let you know that you can now becoming patron and support the show for as little as five dollars a month. 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He's imagining what it would be like To go into hell and into heaven, but there are these very interesting ways of thinking about it like hell. Is this vast grey city where? Everyone just keeps moving away from each other. Just endlessly to the horizon and there. which is a very fascinating? Basically, it's like everyone who's there is choosing. To be away from everyone else, and that's like they're. They're making me WanNa read it. I need to read it. It's it's a fascinating book it's short to. If. You're digging this podcast and wants to join me and others like you in our pursuit of the good true and beautiful and joining us on Patriot is the best way to do it. Sign up today at Patriot, dot com forward slash carry the fire. Pot All right. Let's get back to the show. Do you have any consistent practices or habits that are helpful for you. Here quite a few We've already mentioned the hiking. How how often do you do that? You have an Amana least once a week, You know depends during the summertime. I'll go off for multiple days because my schedule's different, but during a years almost every Sunday afternoon I'm hiking somewhere and it's usually not overnight in the winter. One of my the last couple of years I've had a prayer practice. It's been especially helpful to me. So it in a process, just say an open relation a way of thinking about. God's relationship to me. It's assumes that moment by moment, but my life consists of moments, and that every moment begins with God acting. And enabling my next moment to exist in that action, presenting to me, a range of possibilities, relevant to whatever I am or doing at that moment, and then God calling luring persuading commanding, encouraging me. Toward the best, the most beautiful, good true loving whatever. I have a prayer practice practice almost every day. In which I wake up in the morning and I imagined symbolically. Breathing in God. and. I just try to fill my lungs to the utmost. Not that I think that God is entering me literally in the my body but I think of it as the very first moment that God acts. And then I. Hope. I exhale and when I inhale I think of God, and when I exhale for the first few times I just think of love. Sort of have this. Inhaling God exhaling love, inhaling God, then sometimes switch over, and I'm inhaling love and I'm exiling more love, and then I'll kind of start begin to set my intentions for the day, and if there are some concerns, kind of more traditional prayer requests with Chris Rock about those kind of come up there, but oftentimes it's just breathing for a few minutes symbolically, reminding myself to God. Fills me, and then I can respond. God enables me and then I can act. God acts and I can then. Do something in the world and that way of thinking centers me and makes me Remind me of what I think is fundamentally true about reality, but also helps me think about who I want to be in how I want to act for the day. Yes you kind of Among other things, CA- starting your day proactively and. Living reactively. So Yeah! And that's not just a process. I mean the whole breathing thing. Lots of people have done that, but it makes more sense to me from Pope Relational. Perspective given this idea that God experiences time with us says that every moment begins with God's activity. Are there any ways that you haven't mentioned yet that are the you regularly. Seek out or county or encounter beauty in your life. Yeah that would be unusual I mean like. I think we all. Live by certain kinds of beauty. Things have changed my life. You know now so much of my beauty. Experiences revolve around the outdoors and photography. When I was younger I was in a lot of bands and wrote music and. I, have you calluses on my fingers anymore? I. Don't do that like I used to which I miss it sometimes, but I, just you know different place in life. I suppose another aesthetic. Element. That I become more attuned to lately. Is, the aesthetics that come from. Words well placed. In books and music poetry. Even a good. Article like a magazine words well placed. Yeah, there's something. Deeply beautiful about that. What's something you've been? Reading or consuming in that sense lately, that's well. It's got more that I've been thinking myself that I need to be more beautiful. Like I've been writing and. Part of it, too, is you know? As I mentioned earlier I live in a lot of different worlds and I read a lot of really. Academic Theology and philosophy books and science books and then I'll you know read some more popular books? and. Most academic theologians scientists. They don't write well. Really need three more beauty so then when I write my own stuff, I say okay, take your own advice here. What are you GonNa do to make it more attractive and at it's hard work. Yeah well Super Nice talking to you I. Really Hope we can hang in person sometime. I'M GONNA go eat some dinner, but Yeah man appreciate it. Appreciate to when you finally. Put this out. Let me know on all. Pass around on my social media channels as well awesome. Jesus thanks to all right. Let have again. If you're wanting to? Follow along with what's going on at the Center for open a relational theology. The website is C. Four like the letter R., the number see for ORT DOT com. And Yeah, check it out You can check out a book. God can't if you want to get more in depth. He's got a book called the uncontrolled love of God, and then he's got a new book coming out soon, which is a questions and answers. Relating to God can't so keep a lookout for that. 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"You're listening to Monaco. Saturday first broadcast on Saturday. The second of May two thousand and twenty on monocle twenty four March hello. I'm Jordan Goodman Broadcasting to you live from the Dory House in London coming up on the show. Portugal is about to ease. Covert nineteen lockdown measures. But is it too early? Lauren Colosio Rabelo joins me with this. Weekend's papers then we'll hear from our editor. I'm Jay Talk. Asthma Lampert remember that many revolutions started in a bar. We can wait but we need this world back also ahead in our weekly feature. What's in my paper will focus on the London Times? Leads me to Michael Binion. Who's the publications foreign affairs specialist? And what's a quarantine? Well like a Martini. But you can get on. Your road drinks expert Joel. Harrison gives us some recipes for corona cocktails. It's Saturday the second of May live from London. This is Monaco on Saturday before we get started with our guests here the headlines of two weeks of intense speculation about the health of Kim Jong UN state news agency Casey. Na said today. The North Korean leader attended the completion of fertilizer plant north of Pyongyang the first report of his appearance since April the eleventh. This has not been independently verified Malaysian authorities rounding up undocumented migrants as part of efforts to contain the spread of Corona virus. The country's police chief said off to hundreds of migrants and refugees were detained in the capital. Kuala Lumpur the Taliban have mounted more than four thousand five hundred attacks in Afghanistan marking a sharp escalation in violence in the forty five days since signing a deal with the United States that paves the way for a US troop drawdown and reaches of Monaco. Weekend Edition today will be able to dip into our pop. Culture picks. Get some prompts for building a business. Have News from the Caribbean and learn about the evolving. Etiquette of lockdown breakup. Sign UP THAT MONACO DOT COM FORWARD. Slash minute to get your copy delivered daily. No let's start with the roundup of today's newspapers Monaco's zone collateral. Rabelo joins me on the line could want to color. Good Morning Gene. Which doing Portuguese papers because you are. Portuguesa you missing home. I mean I guess whenever if I'm stuck at home as most of us are right now home being here in London adding is inevitable that I wish I could fly back to Portugal right to the second especially when all my friends. Quarantine seemed to be blessed with sunshine every day and perhaps to quarantine. What is the press saying there at the moment so the main focus across most of the first Portuguese front pages? This morning is the fact that from Monday onwards Portugal enters the first phase of unlocking some of its citizens so opening up a few businesses and also lifting some of the lockdown restrictions. That have been in place now. It is important to remember that yesterday of Friday first of May is a big national holiday in Portugal as it is in many countries around Europe celebrating Labor Day and workers 'cause throughout history. Now this weekend in Portugal traditionally would have been one where people would have gathered and not only in public spaces about two at each other's homes. So this weekend actually. We're seeing additional measures in terms of restriction of movement so people cannot even leave their own burrows this week and these is a similar level of restrictions that Portugal put in place for Easter. We can for example and this is to ensure you are not doing any travel that is not essential from. May the fours from Monday. There is a bit of easing of some measures. Small businesses and the government emphasized specially those that have their front door directly to the street. So we're not talking about shops within shopping centers or that within the same building are able to reopen to the relief of many this includes of course hairdressers and barber shops then. Some others businesses such as some other services such as libraries and bookshops. And even some of the smaller National Archives will reopen as well to the public what about institutions like museums. So museums is quite interesting because on the eighteenth of May an celebrated the International Museum Day and Portugal is very sad to reopen most museums and cultural landmarks. By that date to you know not only mark the day but by point will have a good two weeks of easing of restrictions so the country will be able to you know more or less understand where things stand. We need to remember that in the case of Portugal in total only only here of course for Portugal in comparison to the rest of the world but twenty five thousand people to twenty five thousand three hundred fifty one cases of Cova nineteen have been confirmed. So when you look at the scale of it when you have some countries that that is their weekly number if not higher than that. This is why Portugal has been able to take these restrictions lift some restrictions now so the Portuguese Cultural Ministry has made it very clear that for museums to reopen certain sanitary conditions need to be in place for example. All staff needs to be able to have the appropriate protective equipment now. They didn't specify exactly what this means. But we can assume means masks and gloves. There needs to be a clear clear cleaning wrote more than usual to the common spaces of the museums. There needs still to be some easing of the amount of people that are allowed inside each of these institutions at one time but it is quite hopeful to read these stories and to see that people will be able to go back and enjoy some what. What for many is what makes a city right is to be able to leave your house visit a museum or a tea or any other landmark whenever whenever you want and many of us at least myself. I've been trying to cope by missing the theater by watching and alive feet from the National National Theater here in London But I wish I could be there on the eighteenth to head back to a museum or two. It has been fascinating. There hasn't it. Let's see I've been doing live gallery tours and things and it's just often galleries that I that I wouldn't have gone to Really interesting just to kind of to get a proper look at some of this art and as you say the theatre the National Theatre has a wonderful streaming program. No it is fantastic and I agree with you. I think I've been on more virtual tour watching some of the special exhibitions from my laptop that perhaps if even if I was in these cities from the comfort of your of your home you can watch these gallery tour from wherever you are we want in the world and it is fascinating to to think that maybe we were there. We wouldn't have spent three hours going through every single piece of exhibition but also I was just WanNa mention still here in port talking about Portugal you know as I said. This is the first phase of easing restrictions by the eighteenth of May the same date. That's the museums are set to reopen. Some schools are set to reopen to So this is mainly a four year years eleven and a twelve which are the two years right before you go to university because that is now the concern for the government is how unlike here in the UK. Where a they have made a decision not to have this year. Portugal has not made that so they want very much these students to go back to school so that they can take their final exams at some point this summer and apply for university. Because the last thing you want is someone ending up missing an entire year of education because of the pandemic that is also the date where most restaurants specially those with outdoor seatings. Seating will be able to reopen and after that by the first of June. Most things should be coming back to normal including then finally teeth irs and cinemas and some sporting events as well somebody else who appears to have emerged from lockdown. Or what we don't know where he's been is Kim Jong Hoon. Yes and of course this story we need to take with. Pinch of salt as the only source we have for for. This story comes from North Korea but it is gracing every international front page this morning including the New York Times There's been a lot of speculation over the past week or so over his whereabouts. Even people looking at you know satellite images that his train was in the eastern resort town in a North Korean. That's where probably he was hiding. Because that's where the train was and there was some suspicious activity in terms of boats and etc and so these are Indian. Unconfirmed news that Kim Jong on has resurfaced in public view yesterday. According to North Korea state news media and at the ceremony at a factory in a city of San Sean now he lasts appeared publicly owned April the eleventh. There's been wild speculation about his health and just because there's this report now we cannot assume that everything is back to normal. There still quite suspicious that he disappeared for such a long period of time. And I guess what's interesting here is of course. North Korea has throughout the pandemic said that they didn't have any cases the cases of corona virus. But if Kim Jong UN was indeed ill or they are rumors that might have been a heart surgery that had some complications. But we will indeed never know. Factually did he have coronavirus. Did he have some other disease that we that obviously impacts his image as a strong leader? And therefore that would explain why he disappeared. There's just so much that we don't know and in Truth. I don't know if we ever will have the full picture There was a very interesting Interview that we did on Wednesday mornings globalist with John Everard who was the British Former British ambassador to Pyongyang and I had intended to ask him about various people in the frame who might be there to take over from Kim Jong Un but actually what he ended up saying was he thought it was so bizarre. That not only had a Kim not being present at a very important anniversary in the in the country nor had any single member of his family and no had any of them sent flowers or any kind of contribution and he felt that that might mean the perhaps had been a kind of soft coup and that Kim might be being held against his will somewhere and we still don't know if as you say this could have completely been as a staged photo core and perhaps something like that is going on anyway. That's I just want to flag up that that's something you can download From a website. It was Wednesday's glibness with with John Everard culture. You talking to us from home as all of our guests at the moment and nuts because of course offices here in the UK closed now the F. T. is saying they going to be close for months. Yes a story of T. Today about workers here in the UK that we should all be ready. That will indeed be closed for a couple more months even if there's an easing of locked restrictions at some point in the near future now of course if we if we try to understand this in makes complete sense of companies throughout the past couple of months identified work that can be done from home and until the exact in ideal conditions in terms of health and safety can be have outside of our home. It makes sense that if you can work than from the comfort of your home that you should do so now of course. A lot of companies are eager to restart operations relatively quickly especially retailers and factories and warehouses. These are this is a sort of work that indeed cannot be held from home. We'RE TALKING HERE ABOUT OFFICE. Workers particularly and of course we still need to also think about what it would mean in terms of the recommendations for the government when we actually return to the office. I think it would be quite. I don't know I can't think of another word other than naive. But that's perhaps too strong to us here but it is a bit naive to think that whenever we are allowed to go back to life in our office that it will be exactly as it was before I'm sure there will be some sort of official guideline about the distance. We have to have between desks colleagues. Even how many people can be in the same room at the same time we the traditional office today is a longer to one of the nineties of everyone having its own cubicle and space. We are in open plan offices. I mean even as they're at Murray House where you are Georgina. That is our sort of office now. Of course we are lucky that we can find easily close and safe-space Allen behind the comfort of the door of studio one or control room one because we work in a radio station but there is of course wider questions here about what the new reality of office work will be and of course here in the UK as well. There's this discussion about non-food shops reopening as well. And what sort of policies will they adopt us? This story here in the Allude to the fact that they might be expected to use the same practices are already in place in supermarkets that we've now grown accustomed to that being the two meter distance to the person that's in front of you waiting outside after a certain number of people are inside et Cetera. And and of course I mean just just looking at the way we operate here and just looking at the urban is which is the program that you produce. I know that later on today. Andrew Tuck will be talking about how that translates into how cities will will actually work Often lockdown. Yes so this week we are looking on the urbanism for example to importance of public realm and the transformation of public realm is going through at the moment because of the consequences of coronavirus over the past few weeks. We've been approaching this show together at. Andrew are very closely on the issues affecting our cities due to the pandemic and T- today's episode. That we have on this week is quite interesting and the fact that you know. It's it's interesting to talk about public ground. When must must have most of us cannot go to public spaces but it is important to rethink and have a serious conversation about the new reality of the city and of course most people might think okay. This includes squares and places where people gather but a conversation. We had that it's quite important was with Miracle Milan. Who's the former nightmare from Amsterdam? I believe he was the first in the world and he has been partnering with other people around the world that do similar work including a cop commissioner from Berlin to bring together this nighttime economy relief package and the future of the night time economy is so important right now as well because as we go through the places and the stages of easing some of the restrictions we can even talk refer back to what I mentioned a moments ago about Portugal bars restaurants and places that live and work in the nighttime economy are so down that so we need to think as well. It's not just about us. Businesses but artists as well people a DJ's and musicians and performers that would traditionally perform in an evening nighttime setting. So we have this interesting discussion with him on the show as well about public realm is not just what happens during the day and it is important to you think what will change whenever cities reopened. I think for many of us as much a as we might be craving. You know a good night out with friends. The idea of going to a bar after weeks and weeks and weeks of being told do not stand close to people that you don't know stay two meters apart. Might feel a bit daunting even as much as I hate it back then to be stuck in a COBB nightwork where could barely move quite eager to be in that awful situation again and in fact will hear Andrew In his column talking about that conversation with Merrick Mellon of quickly before we go collateral. I know that you've got a story from Mozambique which features the Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa. Yes this story. The reason why I brought up this is from page one of the daily newspapers from Mozambique as I was browsing what was in the front pages of the Lusophone countries. It really is a really striking front-page because we have the two leaders. This great photo of the two leaders sitting two meters apart. Both of them wearing masks and I don't know I can't remember when I seen before. Two leaders of a nation sitting like that keeping such a distance. I mean conversation that they had the the reason for this meeting was because of security in the region more than anything else so both. Mozambique and Zimbabwe have been seeing rising in violence over the past few while I was GONNA say weeks and months but it's been going on for years really and so it's important that these conversations about bilateral cooperation continue but deferred. Oh itself is so striking I duNno. What did you think of it when you saw at Georgina? Well I'm afraid that think that he's such a giant hypocrite that I expect. It was completely staged. The fact is he chartered. A plane a private plane from Dubai to get to a place you could drive to in half a day. He's defying all the lockdown measures taken in Zimbabwe whilst ordinary Zimbabweans being Rested for coming out to find food and put into really crowded conditions. varies jetting off at this meeting. It was a striking photograph. But I'm afraid it hides myriad of sins I feel oh of course and the same can be said as well by Filipino. Easy while he has quite want to say like a better rapid zimabwean president within his own domestic press. There's also been criticism especially when it comes to the cultural sector in Lewisham. Baked that not enough has been done. The government has failed to present a plan for a thousands of people that have lost job due to the pandemic because it has all presented clear measures for the cultural sector so there is of course a bit of that as well there that we have this whole enter meeting and preparing the meeting between the two leaders while the average population is still waiting for answers. Color Tom Fry. We must leave it there. But thank you very much. Indeed that was Carter Revilla. You're listening to monocle twenty four. Let's hear from Monaco's editor. I'm Jay talk here. He is with his wiki letter. I was talking to Merrick. Mellon through the urbanism. I met several years ago when he came to speak on a panel atr inaugural conference in Lisbon. He's a clever passionate man. Who at the time was the nightmare? Amsterdam responsible for promoting and protecting the city's nighttime economy. He's also the owner some great loud shirts which always makes a panel session more memorable today. He runs vibe. Lab is a concern that gets cities to think of clubs as cultural assets. Bars is useful. Employers City music festivals as potent. Branding and the whole world is key for pulling in a creative class in your city now. He's trying to get those cities. Business leaders operators to think about a recovery plan. And as you can guess it's tough. Okay I'll do the obvious. Quip his literally gone from nightmare to nightmare. But and this is a bit. We have to keep reminding ourselves about well. Lots of people cannot stop talking about their baking or their new pickling habit or stating their rediscovered joy of Jig saws there are lots of people who had rather be focusing on wild oats wild nights and some vigorous dancefloor maneuvers not. Everyone is settled down now. Everyone is delighted to find themselves reenacting scenes from the life of nineteen fifties housewife. But there's something else that's lost here. Sometimes it's across arc of funny tipsy night on the town. That friendships are made unbreakable. The passions are revealed. The crazy ideas take shape and big plans are gleefully concocted or as Milan puts remember that many revolutions started in a bar. We can wait but we need this world back and until then well as an online flower arranging course. It looks rather repealing. Do mind return to the park last week. There was the tail of dogs. Having to do social distancing now this and a bit keep people from touching things all public conveniences have been closed the taps where you could wash your hands quench your dogs. I turned off and so this week me and the leash terrier have caught sight of more than one person. Squatting low in the grass is swiveling this way and that with a lizard like dexterity and I assure you they are not on military training exercises the first time. I thought that some Perot deer had stumbled or lost an earing and I was just heading in her direction to offer my assistance and the plaintiff no boomed out in my direction and all this in a rural park in the immediate future. We need cities to provide more places to clean our hands. We need to find a water fountain. Not fewer of them. Things you miss. It'd be nice to have a restaurant reservation to me up. I asked my partner. If you pretend to be a maitre d' and show me to our kitchen table. He was clearly unhappy with the role and told me firmly that there was no looking in my name but they may have a spot on Monday at ten pm or I was very welcome to Q. Outside in case a place the kitchen counter became available and delivered history. I saw that there was a book about a house near where I live and address in Bloomsbury by Alec. Foreshore is the oldest willing in the neighborhood built in the sixteen eighties and the author lives in went online to a well-known site. Put IT IN. My boss get paid a few hours later. I was outside the house when along came Mr Forshaw to hand deliver my copy. And what's more every page has a fact. I'm now determined to remember from when Sash Windows took off in London to how the man who gave his name to Yale also lived just around the corner. Trouble is that he mentions so many intriguing details bank house like finding myself outside staring up at his windows Buckley. The police have not been called. So hopefully I'll be here next week if do take her Thanks to and you. Tuck Monaco's editor and do sign up to the monocle. Minute and uncle weekend edition at our website said that you get set your own bulletin of Weekday News and we can treat direct to your inbox every day. This is Monaco. On Saturday we continue with our regular segment. What's in my newspaper? After this short break Japan is home to the highest number of long lived family run companies in the world. We traveled to Russia to visit furniture manufacturer Maroon would industry founded in one thousand nine hundred ninety five Takeshi. Yamanaka tried to resist his fate by moving to the United States and working as a banker in Tokyo before becoming Maroon as president and reinventing the company. Today I am so lucky for my rene. Is My the bold business owners Takeshi? Yamanaka is part of our film series on the future of Japanese craftsmanship. Watch it now in the film section of Monaco Dot Com come back. This is Monaco on Saturday. I'm Georgina Golden. And this is our section. What's in my paper? Will the paper that we're looking inside today? Is the London Times and joining me on the line? Is Michael. Binion whose foreign affairs specialist at the paper Michael. Welcome thank you so much for agreeing to come on the show today. You're welcome now. I I guess your best known as being the Times Moscow correspondent but you've reported from all over the world from Berlin Washington all over the middle all over the Middle East. What for you was your your career. Highlights T- think well I suppose it was Moscow because I was that the height of the Code Wind Brezhnev's time and it was like reporting from the moon almost nobody had ever been to Russia and manufacture people ever met Russians. So whatever you wrote about was of interest to readers in Brighi and you're right about all sorts of day to day things like what gang shopping in in a Russian shop and what it's like traveling around to the countryside and the other was a great deal of interest and it was alive time and it was also quite a busy time politically. It was the Moscow. Nine hundred eighty Olympic time of invasion of Afghanistan was plenty going on lots of speculation about Britishness else so really that did keep me pretty busy. And of course now because you've reported from so many different places it means that you're in a position to write about just about anywhere and indeed the papers Foreign coverage is excellent. What what's in the what's in the paper today. Well of course like all papers dominated by reporting on Karenna virus but the Times has had a policy which I really really enjoy the babies to give a few upbeat stories every time not just endless tragedy in dispagne's statistics of deaths but some stories that show that there is real. Hope coming a stories about Vaccines that are on the way. The lead story is about a possible moves for when the lockdown eases How public transport my operate how people should take that temperature before going to work on public transport and then there are other things vaguely related to the health situation. Nice story for some. It would be very very good news that the fatality treatments are to resume on the NHS. They were all cancelled after the lockdown and then things about how scientists are wrestling with the problem of trying to find either a vaccine. Aw Medicine that will help. Current embarrass marriage a lot of those stories. But that's only part of the Times it's coverage or a whole other stories on other issues which I intended to sort of take your mind away from the dreadful virus yes exact can and as I say. The the foreign section very very good very interested in the piece about a sedan is outlawing. Fgm Yes that's interesting There's a lot I mean. The foreign coverage is determined on dominated by the virus. It's everything that's going on. In other ways there is quite a lot about as you say the Sudan Story. Female genital mutilation is to be banned. Now this is extremely important because Saddam is one of those countries where almost every woman is subject to this appalling mutilation and now it will be banned. That's in the light of the new more liberal government incident. There's also a big story saying that Putin faces a crisis as his plan to his rule indefinitely hangs in the balance. Putin is having a very bad time with this virus. He's not taking judge his visibly not. They're making making decisions on this. And there's a lot of grumbling obviously from many people not only about the lockdown but the fact of the government seems to be drifting making false promises about what's happening and now it looks as though Opposition which has never opened but opposition is growling away down in the background currently leave foreign affairs coverage without mentioning. Donald Trump and the fact that he says he's seen evidence that the virus comes from a Chinese lab. He's said absolutely nothing whatsoever to back that up. Well this of course. One of the many mysteries of what trump has been saying about the Mara's Yes the Times being quite careful not to criticize him in news stories. A rather simply to report some extraordinary statements. He's made that under the famous. One about drinking a disinfectant to try to ward off the virus about as you say he has said that it is he has evidence that it comes from a laboratory in China it looks this continent attempt to deflect attention away from his own failings in ordering proper measures to counter the virus early on and is now trying to blame. China throw the spotlight on China and accused Democrats and not standing up to the Chinese. I'm not sure that it will work at. Cetinje caused a lot of questioning. About what on Earth? He's trying to do but then well. I think almost everybody else has raised questions about some of his statements as well one of the sections. I always love in. The paper is comment. And Matthew Harasses Column Yes Matthew is always a lively writer and he has been talking about his lock down of course in his house. Indomesia and he's been talking about how people are coping on what's going on and this week is talking about pubs which she says are endangered now vital to the countryside they should be revived or lease rescued That shouldn't be last. Orders all the landlords as historic buildings. Talking about how nice it is to go job. I'm afraid he's going to have a long wait because pubs indeed are probably one of the last things that will come back to normal and so Paul Matthew. It's getting to be enjoying pint down there for a while. It was also very good very interesting piece. About what Eaton is during the school. Eton is doing about the lockdown. It's taken on a large number of children of key workers. There's a picture of them sitting in college sitting there on the benches at sexual distance from each other and of course they're not wearing the traditional uniform measures young kids who are taking advantage of the opportunities for education. And there's a headmaster's injury with ahead Mazda saying that helping others. Excuse me helping out. There's got to be very much or Eaton's mission in the future and he's got plans for the school not just to be a bastion of privilege for the few about to open up some of its opportunities to people in the east end. Poor kids are those who really need the excellence of its and traditions. Michael just before we go. Of course. It's not just the main paper. There are a number of other parts to the Saturday Times. Yes well one of the parts. That of course we'll catch. Everyone's interest is one's dream holiday the great British bucket list of as call it where to go off to lock down and I think again. This is part of the idea of trying to inspire people with something that looks beyond the immediate crisis. And it's got a list on wonderfully illustrated places himself little beautiful spots in Burton. The famous steam railway line from Fort William to my leg is on the cover of the paper and also inside an lots of descriptions of some of the beauties of the Lake district and other places. So that's something to lift your spirits. Also the humor's writer Caitlin Moran has ran has got a guide to how to wear a face mask out. You look fashionable and cheek wearing a face mask as we may have to do in there there are plenty of stories of things and of course plenty on gardening which is becoming an obsession for many people as it's about the anything they're allowed to do. My we started by talking about the fact that you reported from all over the world and just with reference to this bucket list Article I wanted to end if you could tell us. Where will you go as soon as we're allowed to travel my goodness well? I like to pub- but the last place obviously a seeing family is the keesing. My daughter had a little baby boy six weeks ago. And of course all seen videos and they what's Zoom and that sort of thing so it'd be nice to meet the newest edition of the family for the first time it's not very far the other side of London but that will be a priority Then of course it would be nice to go into London though. I need to find a pro. Probably a reason to do so maybe to come to the Mongol Studio on day absolutely will Michael would be delighted to host you just as soon as we can you so much thank you. That was Michael. Vignon his foreign affairs specialist at the Times. You're listening to Monaco on Saturday. We'll continue after this break. Monaco's latest entrepreneurs issue is packed full of inspiring stories about businesses. Who have good at solving problems and tools to help you figure out your next move. We introduce you to the heroes helping companies get through these extraordinary times from fashion. 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Is it too early to have a drink? Well I've got a coffee frontier moment so I think that that will start to my journey today all the experimenting with making some different cocktails little bit later on but not not until after lunch but it is quite a serious question in that we are being told that many of us are drinking much more during this time. Do you think that that's true? I think it as and there is a there is a reason for that and firstly. It's the fact that we are stuck at home to some degree so small pleasures in life. Your little bits of chocolate or lipstick effect is I think is known in business where get pleasures are are have become big pledges which is which is great but secondly I think people are also experimenting more home and that digging into the backs of their cabinets and In the same way. They all with with experimented with different types of food. It keeps your day a little bit more colorful. If you can have something tasty it at the end of it to reward yourself absolutely and I just find myself putting Lamelo in chocolate cake. Mix No very nice. The only thing to do with a screaming. We were talking earlier about quarantine being a Martini. But one that Eugene on your own jinking Elaine. Of course is often been subject to create stigma. But no longer no I think as we stuck at home when we're maybe on different types of video conferencing or Kohls with friends and family in the evening then having a little drink being able to share something having a common theme is is a really nice thing to do. I I have a part of my family live in Bergen in Norway and I was J WANNA trip over there to see them. See My auntie and unclear in the seventies and we couldn't do it so we had a quarantine neo four A resume and they they dressed up for it in my own corporate bow tie on. It wasn't the real thing in terms of the community of being that with somebody but it wasn't far off and it was just lovely. We talked him through the best way to make his Monte. It was fantastic it was. It was a lovely way to communicate and have a kind of virtual hug if you like. Oh that's lovely well. I'm hoping now that you'll talk us through the best way to make a of cocktails now. The problem is that of course. We may not have a great deal of choice available to us in in our houses. I mean there is always yet the dusty lemon cellos or whatever. It is at the back of the cupboard But quite often we lack things to to make cocktails. But I know that you've thought about a couple of your favorites that normally most people will have the ingredients for. Yeah Unsa made big things just understanding the architecture of cocktail which is bringing together alcohol. His Lesi you've got that lovely flavor and kick but you've also got sweetness and often that comes from a sugar or sugar type derivatives and then also you've got some sort of s acid or sourness will bitterness which comes from often from citrus. Fruits will fruit juices so as long as you got a collection of those One of my favorites for example would be the bee's knees which is a classic cocktail developed during prohibition in the Nineteen Twenties. Kinda similar is tied to what we're having now a funny way which simply brings together lemon juice. So you'd you'd want one measure twenty five lemon juice twice the amount of gin so fifty m. l. of gin and then a good squeeze honey to be your own sort of flavor profile. You put that in the Shaker with no ice shake it up to dissolve the honey add some ice carry on shaking and just stray not into into a coup poor white wine glass or tumbler. If you've got one and you have a fantastic balanced cocktail it's called honey sweet Senate which is beautiful. Because it's natural says a lovely round its weakness you've got the acidity of the lemon juice coming through and then of course you've got the beautiful juniper. Let's GIN and it's beautiful easy to make balanced cocktail during on a lot of the things that are in your in your store cupboard. That's nice easy way. Of course if you've got lemon and honey it's awfully good for a sore throat. So frankly if you are infected with covert nineteen billion drink. Something else is absolutely then. Another classic that people have to make especially as the days Getting a longer and you might need something to relax in front of the fire is an fashioned and classic old fashioned takes a Lotta bitches so maybe youngest orbiters sugar a little bit of water and some whiskey into a glass and you keep staring staring stirring to this to list. Sugars dissolved the advice and you keep staring. Should take about seven to eight minutes to make a good one but if you wanNA speed version take the sugar out and put into Maple Syrup so start with an Daschle Maple Syrup in the bottom of your class. Didn't fifty whiskey. Add Ins megastore bitter COUPLA ashes of that and ice and just keep staring building in the ice and keep staring dilution happens. And you got brilliantly nutty wonderful flavorful old fashioned and it doesn't take much work and storing on yet another staple a lot of people will have in the couplets which I wanted to ask you. Joel about ice because I'm not a fan and I understand that it is upset is central to making cocktails. Why well I have a phrase you run out of ICU party. And I think it's one of those things where is does a couple of different things firstly chills drink so anytime you shake shaken. Drink Bee's knees. I talked about the purpose of shaking. Drink is to chill it but not dilute it whereas stirred drink like the old fashioned up. It was just talking about or Negroni. For example the point of the ice in that is actually the dilute drink down a bit and Chile as well so you can make drinks with our ice. But it's much better to have a drink. That's made using ice and the classic Martini. If you go to a great bar like jukes hotel in London where they they make a legendary Martini. They keep all their ingredients in the freezer. The glass the gene a little bit of mood dash and there's no dilution required because everything just comes out the freezing cold so that Martini debate vodka or gin well personally. I'm a big GIN fan so I like my Martini made with a good citrus forward. style gin and with a twist of lemon. But if I'm going to have a VODKA MARTINI. I like it as a Gibson with a cocktail two in its to give it a little bit of a lift Joe How are you staying sane without the option of going out to restaurants and bars? It's you know I'm very privileged. My wife is a food stylist so she is a fantastic turn in the kitchen makes amazing food so we have not been struggling to badly on that side. So I've been doing the drink. She's been doing the food and we've been keeping all south protean detained but I just can't wait to get back out traveling. I just before. The lockdown return from a lovely trip to Switzerland and went across from Zurich will the way over to San Moritz and just some of those flavors that I discovered some of the great drinks that were out there as well wines but also some of those amazing foods come from the Swiss mountains just fantastic and I miss that. I miss the opportunity to get out and uncover and discover other cultures food and drink habits. Well as we asked Michael before you whereas the first place then that you'd had to as soon as you're allowed France to winds AMIS is up. There is is one of the best drinks in the world cocktail guy but I'm keen to go and explore Burgundy so I'd love to jump on a ferry go round The central regions of France and try and some local wines. Well listen thank you so much a Gel. That was absolutely lovely and I cannot wait to try some of those cocktails that that you've told us about the bee's knees lovelier Maple Syrup Ole fashioned And of course a classic Martini Joel Harrison. Thanks so much under cheers. And that's all for today's program. It was produced by Marcus. Hippie on a studio engineer was newer hull. Climb Georgina. Godwin Michael on Saturday returns at the same time next week and tomorrow Emma Nelson will be here at the same time with Monaco on Sunday. And of course I'm with you here for a few more hours today. Thank you for listening.

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Valerie Forstman

Carry The Fire Podcast

1:25:52 hr | 1 year ago

Valerie Forstman

"Welcome to carry the fire a podcast where we explore the big questions of life through the Lens of the good, the true and the beautiful. I'm your host Dustin Cancer, and my hope is that through these conversations with people of diverse and divergent backgrounds and beliefs. We can glimpse the world the new through each other's unique perspectives. Fairly long ago. Coming out of this practice started. Giving myself sort of instruction that when your heart is breaking. Let it break all the way open. All the way you know that. We. Really look into this. Pain and suffering. It's you know we. It's the suffering of the whole world first of all. And that. Realization! That you know hearing the cries of the whole world then this. This becomes of a piece with compassion. We think well. How can I bear the suffering of the whole world? Low everyone today on the pod. We're joined by Valerie Forstmann. Valerie is an associate masters, then teacher in the Kyodo and tradition. And also has a PhD in Hebrew Biblical interpretation. In our conversation, she tells the story of her introduction to Zen practice. She talks about the way her practice has impacted her life and specifically. How does impact the way? She walks through these strange times of social distancing and canceled plans. And she shares some about the ways. The Zen has given her new ways to interpret the unconditional love. She found in her spiritual roots. Let's dive in. well, thank you so much for. Taking, the time pleasure really. However? You've been holding up in lockdown. Such an interesting time early remarkable to be alive now. yeah. I of course. all plans canceled and my partner and I are sheltering at home. Both of us able to reach out to others. Do a little bit of work from home, which is helpful. But everything is different Yeah and. You know for US personally. We're. Were our life. Has It such that I travel a lot? We're often apart for long stretches of time. And here we are together. We're taking daily walks at a beautiful lake, nearby and sitting Sawsan together. Enjoying meals together just a sense of solitude And really Wonder and so so personally! You know it's. It's rather a heightened time. For A for practice? for for really being mindful For doing things that I I see as gifts. And at the same time, You know sitting right in the midst of the suffering and. we are watching the news and. I feel that it's important to be. With people endo aware of what's going on without being swamped by that. Yeah. So. Yeah extraordinary time. Yeah. emailed you about you, but basically I'm just trying to get perspectives from different people and specifically. Through the Lens of the the good in the beautiful. and I like to start out kind of getting those by asking. If you remember when you were growing up. What would give you a deep sense of wonder about the world? But a lovely question. I feel very fortunate. Then I was bored into a context. Where that was, there was space for wonder. My. Mother was an educator Piano Teacher. My father was a theologian. There was. From early odds somehow perhaps for that. Context perhaps. Stat genetic makeup. I? I lived in the world with a sense of wonder. And with a with also. Being drawn to sort of the deepest questions, even as a young child. and. You wondering at. A with amazement at the beauty of the world, and also quite aware of of suffering and wondering why. Why so? but Perhaps, because of my context nature. And Music. And human love. Human relationship. We're all sources of. Of wonder also I mean. You know growing up in that context I remember. Very young child. Sitting on my bed in the dark at night. You know. What is God. AD. I was hearing. You know in my faith context about this person. You know the. The Christ Jesus Christ. And as as a little girl, you just. Just walk into my room and show yourself. So what happened? There was this great wonder at mystery. Also like. Just. It seemed. There was an expectation that this would be shown and. You know I remember period night after night of waiting and strangely never. I can't remember feeling dashed or disappointed or angry. EW It just somehow what came out of that was a sense as I grew that The the questions themselves. The seeking itself. Had A value in a life to it. that. While! You know it's genuine seeking. It it has. That they're real. Place of value might be and very asking the question. that. That's where we have our life. And that it was okay that this mystery was big enough to contain all of that and. Kind of continue to draw. Draw said. How old were you when you were starting to think through? I remember the evenings. Nights about five. Five five. Remember that continuing. My father was a professor at Stanford when I was young child. Religion Department and then moved the family to Nashville, Tennessee. which was tough? You know for kids. To join the faculty at Vanderbilt Divinity, school, so I can kind of track. Being eight and still. Having experience of waiting in the dark. See you now have PhD in Biblical interpretation. You're also zen master in the sandbox Cuban tradition. You continue to work at a Christian University in Texas so it's a wide variety of things happening in A. Curious here a little bit more about your spiritual roots kind of what tradition you raised, and then how those roots of kind of grown out to where you are now, yes, I one correction and Part of the sun bows in tradition and that tradition I. My title is Associate Send Master. So there you know in this Japanese way, there is a progression through the practice and so it's it's not an. Say. She but there is a distinction there. Yeah so as I, said I I grew up in A. Really bored into what I would call it progressive. Protestant religious tradition so Christian faith was See very natural. it was a faith of exploration one very much tied to social justice and. Church and community and and a sense that God is love. were were Kinda bred in the bone. Never with proselytizing I wasn't forced. but I did grow up with the sense that You know there was this. Fundamental reality that Christian faith was. Opening Up, you know to me, and in the world. Of. You are might be love it. This. This sense of Unconditional love. At the same time. It would be quite unusual i. think to grow up. No matter when circumstances a matter. The privilege. You know having experiences that wound us. And that cut us off and that Make us. Feel separated and. Lacking Yudo. That sense of lack that just goes to the heart Oh at so at the same time, but I thought this unconditional love is a beautiful idea, and in some way real in this world, but not for me. Either there's just that gap. Not Quite. And I went off to college. I was. In, love with classical music by then and pursued that. And carried with me into that. A sense of lack. I remember my. My mother, had, taken a You know a little card a blank. Card and written on. It something about unconditional love you. Unconditionally no matter the circumstances, no matter and however she put that in a beautiful sentenced to I, had put it up on the mirror in my dorm room. But but somehow it there was the struggle to feel. Completely included in that love. and. So. Fast forward, you know Career in classical music Help me find my way. of all places that brought me to Dallas Texas. for work. and Lo and behold I found the Maria can nonsense eter with Ruben Hobby Toro. She the guiding teacher. didn't I had had an experience I think. As a teenager. Actually of The world that is in points to. But I had no context for unpacking that for understanding that. I had. Dabbled in meditation and College I. Went to Oberlin College where this? You know these kinds of practices and Inter religious understandings and Everything was going on. There was all available. But I hadn't really found a practice and. through music I. was led to this. Amazing. Opportune moment finding myself at the Zen, center, receiving introduction and feeling. Really at home, knowing that this practice was something that I. Absolutely needed to. No matter. How it went. Yeah, I kept at it. And As one does months in I signed up for what's called a session? an intensive period practice. Actually it was early enough on in my practice I didn't really know. It sunk in. What that that session that intensive retreat would be? so I showed up portions it was. Far enough drive out of town that I didn't feel I. could just look at the schedule? Think I can't do that and Turner and out. There I was. I was so. Great I was. We were all arranged in. A big Sendo is kind of a cinderblock building was turned into Zenda with a little altar down at the front and and. Unusually no other emblems often these retreats are held and. You know former! Comments or monasteries, so there are Christian symbols around, and in this case that wasn't so so it was really empty, space and I was seated between I remember to. TAP INTO BE TALL men. Long time practitioners. So In my sort of Wow. How am I going to do this? Eight and a half hours of sitting day. All United how? I was seated between. It felt like two pillars. and. I was working on this. Initial co on that is so. Integral to the Zen traditions, ancient choline and At one. The one that I was given was. Joe Shoes Mu. To smooth does a dog have Buddha nature or knocked? You this great? Aid Century Master says. Boo! So the invitation to the student is to sit with that. Breeds Mu Walk Moon nothing but move. That's there's a lot that can be said about that, but. In the context of that session a few days in. Know before there was any chance to have some expectation. I was sitting and Had the sense while. Sitting of I guess you could say an apparition a vision some this figure. White sort of figure appeared before me. And Even in that context and having actually been. away from the church, not out of rebellion just. Circumstances for some time. What what came to me in that moment of this? Facing this figure was That's Christ. Almost immediately. I heard the words. This is my body. Utterly transfixed. This is my body and after I don't know a few moments. I'm not sure how long. The thought came. That's blasphemy. This is my body. So immediately, it all went away. and Fairly soon. Yeah. Did you take that to mean? This! This of everything or it fell on me in the sense of this one sitting here, assure this everything, but really this one. This is my body. You know. What's happening right now? and. You know I wouldn't have separated. I wouldn't have said Oh. Until the thought that's blast with me when that came up, it's like Oh. This Valerie is the body of Christ like there's some equation there. You don't, but actually the experience was. Nothing, but this very body sitting there. Is The body of Christ. So! The bell rang in. We bowed and we. Stood in the clapper's sounded and we slowly started this. Walk Kalkin Hin. you know. The the ongoing silent walking meditation. and. Ever about forty people so is a big circle. This room and down at the end was this altar. Where there had been a long a photo, a picture in a frame of my teachers, teacher, Monaco and Roshii. and He's you know. Someone I've had such respect for I had read about him in the three pillars of Zen just the fact that he was my teachers teacher. Great respect. But in that face was just had been for me and inscrutable Japanese face. And where were walking and Kim Hin and In somehow walking past the alter. My I just happened to. Just, glance at the photo disc-, catch a glimpse of it. By chance. And sadly. This compassion was just pouring out of his face. Adan. The sense was I understood. I understood why. Not In some rational sense, but there was just. This understanding. And pretty soon we went back began the next head, and before long I happened to be tapped to go and see the teacher. and. Fortunately, there was a because it was a large session. There was a row of five mats in lying to see the teacher. And I'm just sitting there without. Really with this Moo what is Moo what is Moo? But all the while these tears kind of cunning, running down my cheeks. Quiet? And By the time I got to the Matt right outside the door in my lap was wet. But the last thought I had was I'll never get this. Did, what what is Moo? This question, this deepest question this sort of. Opening question. The fundamental matter. Where that came from now as a teacher, it's so common I hear over and over I'll never can't this. And there's something about that. Surrender That is. Part of the path. I went in and I sat down in front of my teacher in front of Ruben and. He said what's happening? I said nothing. And then. I suddenly recalled. And said well I was sitting in this figure appeared in heard these words and. Then I had this thought it all went away. I walked by the you know I just recounted, and as I did that, it opened up. This space that had. Just this vast space that opened up in a very intimate way, and he asked me at that moment. What is Moo? And it just came. It came without. Not from discursive place was just in the most natural way, and then it comes with a lot of checking questions, and we were suddenly just with his guidance plunged freely into this world. Rather just is no separation. And you know if I could now stepping back from that. you know. One way I might describe what happened. Was this shift? From unconditional love as something that. You have. It's not something we have. It's what we are. At at that came home in a way that has just it just doesn't leave. It's not to say your practice is forever lifetime. Forever and ever at always opening new horizons. But that's shift. But we cannot fall out of this that in a sense, it's our birthright. It always simply what we are. That came home in a way that I would call the great relief. So. Without any? You know beyond anything I could possibly concoct. This merging in a sense of Christian faith and Sen. awakening. Just unfolded. In that particularity. Yeah. That point you had not. Started your studies in Biblical interpretation. Yeah. That's right so I. Continued of course, this launched me into practice any now. My practice can begin. When feels that over and over? And this practice ad so. That retreat. was in the fall and about. Four months later I. Basically got off my. Christian Wendy and heard myself say out loud I think I'll go back to school. Oh really. and. What had come up with a sense of? Wanting to find Christian language. To. Interpret what had happened and then to be able to share? With Christians this practice. Because, it had been so liberating. Ed and really innocence opened the gate for me to find a embrace my own Christian. Innocence background inheritance. So. I thought well I'll just go to school and get a masters of theological studies There's a place. About fifty minutes for my house, and in a divinity school that happen to have its own heritage, and the tradition I grew up, in which is the Christian Church, disciples of Christ, and I knew some of the faculty there who had actually been students either of my father at. The school where he taught I'd even. When I googled that place, and it just felt like the commitments of the institution to Social Justice and this sort of. Progressive Theological study, but included my own concerns for. Feminist interpretation. For Concern. For reading on the margins. For Persons of Color for. For Persons. LGBTQ. Identity, I needed a place I needed to study these tax and these. Theological! Sort of rubrics for this framework in a context that was clearly supportive of all. Of Humanity. And the schools seem that to me so applied and I started at at the time I was continuing to play as a professional musician. continued that. One thing led to another I I much to my surprise. Kind of fell in love with With the Hebrew language. which had never studied before? With what's called the Hebrew Bible. And with. Questions about Literary theory, which all resonated so deeply for me with this zen practice. The linguistic construction of meaning for one thing that just that's just. Ito. Was So exciting to you know that we are the stories that we tell. And how are we creating this world through language At. And then theologically what? What does it mean to say? It is no longer I who live, but Christ who live in me and and the sense from zen practice that is so clear that either there's this death. And Life. And, that's the heart of it. You know what? What this great thirteenth century Master Dogo called Life Death One. He put a hyphen their life death. So that. That fundamental question belongs to both of these traditions and to be able to wrestle with that, and and and then began to unpack it through the reading of texts. and. And, actually looking at language and the way it requires the gap to make meaning `to. So fascinating to look at that what it is to be human to be linguistic creatures at the same time that I'm doing this practice where you can absolutely see through the gap. Zinn! GONE WORDS LADDERS Yet when you see that words are also it, you know. So it's. It was just this. Path that naturally one thing led to another. Talk about wandering into the of the circle of wonder. That's master once she put it that way. It's wonder. that I could explore in these ways and so the door opened to enter the PhD program there. In Hebrew Bible, which by then was my area of? And it. Strangely, seemed just opportune. Why not I mean I! Don't recommend that actually. I don't i. I, don't think. that. That's the normal reason to do a PhD. Yeah! Know I had the privilege of having this other career of other means of support. So. It was possible to do this out of sheer interest. Just. A love of language Pursuit of the intersection of all of these interests of what it is to be human. and. At a way to kind of cultivate. As it turns out. Zan practice and and sent teaching. I feel it's. It's really fueled that and along the way it gave me a second career. which happened to be very convenient and the timing and just? How. Interesting is that to have the chance? That our lives to To do thing thoroughly as a career, and then to Shan't food and have this whole other arena of of your work life that is. Not unrelated but really fresh different. He'd. I was an administrator in a theological Graduate Theological School for eleven years. I've just retired in January rather ironically. From that work to devote myself full-time. twos and Training ends and teach. You just stopped working at the Cote did yes, yes. Just so I had. I had all of this travel. scheduled. The opportunities were were just sort of coming in and it was. It felt like. I was holding back the floodgates for awhile aid. The Grad School where I worked was incredibly flexible about allowing me to travel. For Teaching and you know to work around the edges of what was a very demanding job, but finally it just felt like it's time now. I can now do this and so I retired in two. Months of schedule of traveling for to lead this session. Cody, this session work at this place or just practice in this place I mean I. I went to New Mexico I went to Germany for three weeks went back to new. Mexico I was headed to Florida group lead there. I was scheduled for a month in Germany and May and you know about a month ago. Everything ceased. Its stopped. and. So then I had the. Opportunity like so many of us to. Sit with disappointment. At five new ways you well. Now what do we do? How do we reach out? How do we connect What's? What is the wonder of this? Really. Exactly this where we. At at at. It took a little bit I was quite disappointed. Because I had waited so long. For the opportunity I think and when it took off, it was, it was really an incomparable joy. To do this thing and. To begin to grow more in it To offer. What's what's mind to do in these various contexts? Ad then you know. Just all canceled I founded a really. Really Compati- teacher. That disappointment and maybe that's again coming from a place of privilege. because I have a house where I can. Take shelter. Enough resources right now. I could see that disappointment. Has An agenda right. Thanks, there's a plan that ought to happen. That's been cut off. and. That's construct. Really sat with it, you what? What could be more alive? More dynamic. More complete more calling to us. Then this. Place where we stand. It led me to reflect on. Again perhaps a kind of privilege, but I think a real pointer from this practice. The A contrast between. Loneliness. Which? I know so many people are suffering from a practice perspective you, that's a little. That's like disappointment. That has an agenda. That thinks it knows. What would be better than this? Whereas solitude. Includes everything. But externally they look very similar at time. Would you connect that to? Kind of? Bigger issue that the Buddha was getting. In looking at suffering where the? The main. Pain will come, but then you extend this pain by. By, not wanting in in some sense by not just accepting what it is by wanting something other than what that pain is. Yeah I connected very much to that suffering. Compassion. Fairly long ago. Coming out of this practice started. Giving myself this sort of instruction when your heart is breaking. Let it. Break all the way open. All the way that they're. So there. We really look into this. Pain and suffering. It's you know we. It's the suffering of the whole world first of all. And that. Realization that you know hearing the cries of the whole world then this. This becomes of a piece with compassion. At An IT A- then I. We think will. How can I bear the suffering of the whole world? You. Can't you can't? This wide open heart. Is Limitless. there's just no boundary. There's no container so it. It allows this suffering. To be of a peace with a boundless compassion. That is. At the heart at this practice. I. I really like. At have been SORTA reminded of title of a book by James Forida. MASTER IN A. Very close tradition to sign bows in. Some ago. He wrote a book entitled Lucky. Your heart. Will break. And it's his sense story really at that point early on, and he tells an experience of his own awakening just. The most simple circumstances. And, it's in a way of having this sense of being kind of closed down of things are right. They're not as they should be, and then suddenly being met. I suppose you could save by the extraordinary beauty. He Stirring This thin soup you know for the meal, which is also very unhappy about right. And up comes. Just a little wilted leaf have cabbage. And suddenly. Just the. You know extrordinary Pudi of that one wilted leaf of cabbage. A good friend and other. Associates master in this tradition who? a few years ago, we were enjoying a meal together and just in the conversation in the course of the conversation, he said. People cannot tolerate the beauty of thanks. And that the coversation went on I had. I have left with that just carrying it. And sort of sitting with it will. Why is that what is that? and. To really, See Beauty. South has to recede. It is sense you disappear. The beauty disappears you. It's just that. That happened to. John Ishmail Fort when he saw? That cabbage leave. So this for maybe a roundabout way of talking about this suffering that is so at hand now. I feel it is one and the same. With compassion. And out of that then. We find what is our to do? This is not. Awakening into some Shangri la that takes you out of the world. It's world. Exactly, this world! This broken world. That for myself needs to break. All the way open. It seems. That this time! Is Kinda primed for those kinds of? Openings Maybe that you are stuck. He can't be thrown into. For a lot of us can't be thrown into. All of the things that are normally. Distracting you from? The beauty of everything I think and. It it starts encroaching, and you can kind of fight it off for find me. Finally see it or have breakthrough in these these moments. That's beautifully put yeah. It starts encroaching. I mean. There is no way to Make something grandiose of this global pandemic. And yet. The Global. For for many of us, what's global, pause? And this great. Uncertainty this great, not knowing is a is a chance. Certainly. Plunge us into practice. I would think in whatever tradition. When can find? That is fitting it. Opens up the possibility of making a different kind of world. Speaking of practice are. Could you just tell a bit about? What does then practice looks like for you and your tradition sure. So you know the fundamental. The core the heart. The ground was in is Saizen is sitting meditation practice which is practice. Which is skews me posture, breathing and stilling the mind these three basic elements. And you know went, finds a posture conducive to balance to still us kind of alignment to really being in the body being grounded. Normally kneeling. It can be kneeling on a mat and a cushion. It can be if someone is flexible you know. The the the oldest tradition was sort of Full Lotus Yudo are hat leathers. That's what Duggan. Teaches his monks, are you? There's a some people can sit cross, legged, but with both lake sort of on the Mat. Kneeling is helpful position. Some people use a bench which is fine like a small prayer bench to kneel on. A chair as also fine it's. it's not about enduring pain. Yeah in fact. Finding posture. That's conducive. With as little pain as possible conducive to this awareness, concentration practice, really being present following the breath. That's what I would go for so. I once heard. The Abbot of Sambo's in teaching an introduction does into some college students out in California and he taught posture breathing stilling the mind. At the end that one of the young students said well, which is most important. City there. I think he's going. Say stilling the mind because that's challenging. And he said posture. So that first element of finding this posture. Somehow. Your knees. If you're on a mat, are are on the Mat. so there's a tripod. Between your you know your. Your sits bones and your knees, and and then you can find this. Balance With the upper body that allows the chest. The head to gradually rise up. You know there. There are a number of fairy helpful introductory. You can Google Online and get lots of instructions about that various postures. If you're in a chair feet flat on the floor back a little away from the chair There's a a hand, position and blue dread that. We use in some bows in. That's very common That is right handed in the laugh lap. To resting in the lap, left hand on top, and the thumbs slightly touching, so it almost forms. A kind of a heart. The thumbs are very near the the naval or the HARA. I've come to move very much. Appreciate that position though I know, there are others. And Mrs Simply. For someone who feels Having struggling with the shoulder, sometimes we'll suggest just laying your hands in your lap I mean it's it's. It's not A. You know it's a very helpful for. But not at all a straight check. so then. Breathing is just following the breath. When I sit I. Take a few I i. sit down I Iraq a little bit. I find my poss- Chirac little. Left, right back and forth from back so I really find that fulcrum that sense of century. And then I take a few deep breaths to begin. And then I just saddle into. Natural breathing. Breathing in I, if in less than terribly congested breathing through the nose. With the mouth gently closed so it's very helpful to notice the. If there's any tension in the jar the throat let that open. It's very helpful to kind of do a scan re just balanced. I remember so many times. My teacher, saying fully relaxed fully alert. Over time the breath naturally seems to slow down. It naturally seems to deepen. But. I'm not. Necessarily making that happen. I just pre. And then stealing the mind. Thoughts arise. sometimes this is like an to sitting like a mountain. And the thoughts pass by like clouds. So the invitation is as soon as you notice a thought. Rather than trailing after it or sticking to her, adding to like. You, know beats. Putting beads together. On a piece of string. You chasse as soon as the thought. You noticed thinking just returned to the breath, so you just release it. like a cloud. Passing by. In this time especially. But it's not unique to this time. Sometimes, people get very quiet and things come up. If it's. If it's really important matter One Way. To deal with that is to maybe have a pad of paper next Hugh, and actually jot it down so that you won't spend the rest of the period of sitting ruminating on that, but you acknowledge this is something to tend to affect. Some people get great ideas while they're sitting. So rather than having to sit there, remembering the idea or developing the idea, you just ride it out. Returned to the breath. If. Sometimes anxiety! Comes up, and it usually comes in the form of constriction. Somewhere in the body. Just to notice that and breathe into it. Again I wouldn't discursive -ly analyze it. That's not the practice. But just. Allow some space surrounded. and. Again it it. It can be thought after sitting. You know it can hear other. They're very helpful ways to help to explorer and help us address anxiety at what might be pointing to. But, on the cushion Just to notice the construction and return to the breath allow some space. Breathe into it. You know some teachers and I. I really appreciate. It just flooded with loving kindness. Dokan in his universal instructions said. Take backward. Step and shine the light in. Some translations say learn the backwards step and shine a light in. That light itself at shining through that constriction and it will us. My experiences, it will dissolve. At like this phrase. Said is a solvent I think I. Think I I heard. Father Kennedy years ago another. Sin! Teacher Sambas in tradition. Say That, but said is a solvent. Dog and actually. 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An ASS does a dog have Buddha, nature or dot. This monk would have. Come unquestionably. Fervor Tradition Buddhism. where? It's absolutely fundamental to that air every. Everything every sentient beings, certainly I would say everything has buddha nature. So. He would have in some sense. He would have carried that with him. That Tenet. Maybe like carried unconditional love as a tenant. But he. Does a dog. Maybe you could say. He's asking about those lowly creature in China. They were really dogs were not well regarded. That day. Rabies asking about, himself. To I. Have this awakening nature. That's all that Buddha. Nature means wakened awakening nature to high. Joe Shoe says in you and Chinese. It would have been woo. W.? transliterated. Which means literally no. Nothing not having. White can look into that. In myriad ways. The first week. I sat with this code. I B I was driven. I was hair on fire. I remember. Day night. What is move? What is that's the question what is? What is what is Mu Negative? What is that Mu what is? and. I about seven days I was driving home one day. From this graduate school. Get to stop light and realize sooner. What is what is and I? Really I was giving myself a terrible headache. So it was it was a wonderful moment I've just. Kind of. Almost slamming into the wall of our discursive mind at limitation. That is just not what this is about and is so helpful to have that exhausted. To. Run into that limitation so I. Think you said You know like like this? Like this pandemic has sort of put us in this place where we're. Facing us, you know you're you ran into that limitation and then you began to just. Breathe Mu some people. It's just every acceleration sitting. And let you walk. Let booed. Talk. Let drive. Some teachers say live the life of Mu. You could say well. It's sort of like a mantra but it. If you practice with. It that that's just scratching the surface. It's a solvent. It's a penetrating son. kind of a way to. Get! At, seeing or experiencing. Non Duality and everything es. When I say solvent. I mean our concepts are assumptions. Of course are constrictions, but what is all that you know? It's like the scaffolding of I me mine. That is. Fundamentally based on the sense of separation I here and you are there. And out of that I. Concoct this identity that I then feel compelled to defend. I'm insecure. You know that I've separate Ed, so there's this thing I have to. You know sort of. Hold up in the world. And that's threatened. All the time. In some way you know it's, it's like a A scaffolding and also it's wall. and We could say our identity our. Our sense of separation. Fundamentally. And so students who work with mu or maybe. Another there other. Cohen's that are sometimes given initially will come up against this middlebury. They'll encounter fear of letting go. You, if I if I let this fall. If I if I let go of that separate self. Then what? Yeah and That is really Fertile ground. To encounter that fear. And let yourself sit with it and real. You might come to see that from the beginning. Our hands are empty. that. There really is nothing to defend. It might come through just as you said a glimpse. Of, this non dual world, this one world. Yomata conroe she who I mentioned before. Likened are. Her experienced to. Living as an a, Glass Room darkened room, darkened glass. and. This practice with sitting. Maybe with Mu. Maybe with. Who here's there other ways? gradually. The glass get slider. And then maybe in some sudden moment there'll be. Like a pinprick. Through the glass. And you see. This whole world out there. You get you get a glimpse of this world. And actually there, then, maybe not even an here out there. You know, and and then over time with practice some for some people it's as though that little opening just like Lynn's that just widens and widens and winds. Until finally. It falls away. Completely. For some. The House collapses. And then everything! Comes rushing them. Look Image. So when you're sitting. You're be clear mind. And then are you always do proceed to Cohen or do you? Like when? How do you decide like what you said? You kind of a mix of these two schools. There's a a so to speak curriculum. That's one way of calling it a a series of coins, these different volumes we start after an initial. Awakening experience that that collapsing that non dual world is this oneness empty infinite oneness. Timeless Boundless World of equality and equanimity and dynamism, a taste of that launches a student. can. If. They're drawn to it. into. This whole process of Koan study and we start with West called miscellaneous cards, and then there's the a book, called the gate `less gate or Mohmand con-. You know about forty eight Cohen's and then there's the blue clip record or Heke Gone Roku and then there's the book of Equanimity the book of serenity the show, euro, Roku, and then the Dinka Roku finally transmission of light, which of these beautiful exchanges between Master and At the moment of awakening this so to speak transmission so. Myself, because I was quite taken with Cohen's I found them. Very very helpful I mean. I flew to them though they can become founding, and and it's so helpful when you come to one that you get stuck, know there's other really good ones. Actually it's. There's a certain kind of agony because when someone wants to see this world and the world that is really. Opened up in these 'cause. You know if you're. If you look at them from outside they they look like offense, just nonsense really. and. From. The World of that. I've been describing here. They're they're so natural. You they they really. It's like getting to see this Oh. And this and this each one just clarifies it and the masters are all here sort of keeping company. It's like this great. Crowd of witnesses in a sense, right here with us and so so through that practice I've. You know I've done that curriculum. twice with my own teacher at another time with another teacher and And my experience of it was I I would. Do My daily sitting and have have read the CAW and be kind of holding the Cohen and my heart mind. But not necessarily sitting. You know only focused on Bat. I one teacher liken it to hanging on a hook in the back of the room of your practice. And then sometimes it imposes itself. It'll just. Come right there. And in time it's you don't figure it out. That doesn't work. It's just even if you can't figure it out. It's. It's like dry gruel in a bowl, and the teacher can see that and we'll. Help, you. Will ask a question that that throws you off that perch. Makes it fresh. I now am. Continuing. I have a gun now and then that comes up, but I often now in my practice and just sitting. Just sitting or Really just sitting with the Living Cohen. Of. Pandemic global pandemic. Whatever's at hand. When I guide students. Some, are in this really thriving. By. You know taking up the Cohen's one by one in this particular order. And and some find that that. They don't resonate particularly you know. It throws them into a place of anxiety, or or into discursive mind in a way that is just not helpful to their practice, so they they find home. In just sitting. And they still come to A. You know what we call on this face to face. They can still find A. Just A. Face to face encounter around practice can be very helpful, but we're not respite. Raise the question of a coli or just span practice. The. the just sitting sounds. Pretty similar to. I've been practicing. Centering prayer recently At the only difference I think would be the. Centering prayer doesn't even focus on breath, but it's. That seems like a small issue it because in the end. The breath is. When I've sat focused and breadth that becomes. Background, too. So, for for me, I mean. Centering prayer is so close to this and. I I had a chance at my school when I was teaching to. The Grad school to teach. a course at prayer across traditions and we looked at. Christian contemporary practices and send practice and students got to taste these and look at the similarities and differences, but what you just described about the breath I mean. That's your experience. Another way I might put that as. The breath can open up in a way where there's nothing that's not the breath. I'm trying to like the contrast. Because on a surface level, it sounds similar and I'm sure you have a better insight into it but the. The Way I've heard it described as centering prayer is Intention based like the only thing you're doing is intending to. Not hold onto any thoughts. And then breath focus attention. You are giving attention. Positively to. The breath. which seems to lead to similar places, but I don't know. What other differences you'd see between those practices and why prefer does in practice. The word that comes to mind for me and centering prayers emptying. emptying. And that. Is Resonate so deeply with what what we're doing in the sent practice. What are the differences? I mean the Forbes I've been Quite taken. Especially during this time with how often I've heard. Send Teachers. In the West. Where where it's now so? You fertile. Use The word love. Perhaps in sin. I. This is just for myself. I might say. love without substance. Love without. You could say subject object. Just this this. Love. Beyond knowing and not knowing. You know it's. And Yet Love is. Is the word that comes up. You know seeking for words. K. It's beyond words, but somehow. We keep returning to this word love. In centering prayer, it may be an you could answer this of. That that love. And that emptying is. More understand itself more as emptying into. It, how would you describe? That love. Are you soaking in. It is a bad lewis timeless. I don't know that's that's. It seems to me, The big thing that a lot of meditative practices are getting at is. I guess you're saying that the solvent like the disillusion of. How strongly the EGO is holding on. To its separateness and so. I think. From My. Experience in different practice. A lot of them are getting their kind of different means. I mean, can you? Just, that cannot survive love. It can't. Win The love fills up. There's there's nothing outside it. It is. This whole one existence and what you called Ego, you know that that sense of separateness that we hold onto. Just can't. Really can't survive that love. At the same time when you see that even in it is love every that that compassion you know. that. Once we. Fall into this. Even at our anxieties, our sets of separation our sense of inadequacy. That's. Nothing, but above. That line nothing can separate you from the love of God and Christ Jesus. For me, that is so big. That I couldn't imagine. Saying well unless you sign on the dotted line. Of Christian faith, you're not included that. It's interesting. Seeing so I was raised in a pretty conservative Christian. Setting. and. Having kind of deconstructed reconstructed a lot of. ways that I look at. The world and the divine and certain things like. what you just said. Nothing can separate you or I. I hadn't thought about the I no longer live Christ lives in me. those kind of things. Take on a new beauty seeing them from a different. Angle whereas at least from me like. The under Senate I'd been. Kinda given for those things. I always felt very small an and limiting limited. and seeing it. I guess as bigger picture. Nothing could be less limited than sing it from from that perspective work. That understanding of Christ in all things. That you, it's not you no longer being, but it's You opening up to. The whether you are connected to everything. Yeah, I curious I'm sorry. I just wanted to say. What are the most meaningful aspects of my work at this? Graduate Theological School I interviewed every student who applied to be admitted. Usually face to face or On A. On my platform. Most often face to face with campus visit. And I was also the kind of open door for students there who were struggling and I saw so many people. Go through of their own unique repeatable version. Of coming up in a very limiting very judgmental. Christian context. Sometimes so violently rejected by that very context you that that that home so they they were forced to leave and then. You know the bravery and creativity of. Going through that. Deconstruction. And Finding One's way. To a faith that is. free liberated. That cannot exclude anyone. By its very definition by the fact of what it is, you know this love. I. Really appreciate the work you're doing. And the process you've gone to it. It just reminds it just hugs me because I've I've seen. a number of stories of people who. You know even. Left that and came back and are in training. You're. Out in the world, being pastors or chaplains counselors. And you're doing that in A. In a very creative way. Think. Yeah, I think a big part of why I'm. Doing this one reason is I get to talk to interesting people, which is fun but Is that it? I want I like that little spaces that I've found. Someone had gone a little bit before in a certain direction was so life-giving. Oh! There are options of ways of thinking because I think that's what. Stopped me so many times before when I'd come to a wall was. I only saw two. Options and both problematic, but I wanted to hold on to goodness truth and beauty and I thought the only way I could do. It was hold onto this whole. Chunk of other things and so I kept doing that. But not realizing there was so much. So many new paths of seeing everything so. I think just hearing people's stories and. Even for me I didn't know. Like. It growing up, there was like the Christians in our camp and then. You would hear about like the liberal Christians or something, but like they basically might as well have not believed in the same God like it's. It was like the that's real bad over there. As I didn't understand this barrage. Breadth I've. Even with the Christian faith. Little on again. Ways that you can see the interactions between. When I listen to anyone of any talking now like there's so much that I can see. I. Don't know share all of the backgrounds, or even some of the more literal belief they have there's there's so much beauty and so much residents and. All of the ways that these things have been formed over time. Yeah I would agree and. What a world if we could Open our eyes to that more and more that we see, so we can begin to hear these resonances. Appreciate them even in the midst of our differences. But I think that would go a long way. To! Helping US nut There's sort of reactive as you as you said. There's an edifice constructed, and you feel like if any part of that gets. Pulled out like a house of cards or You know it's all going to fall and yet. So, we relate to one another through fear and through judgment. At if if we could just. Pause that and allow ourselves to. Acknowledge and Listen to the ways that the resonances. I. I think this could. Transforming, and so I'm hopeful because I know that's happening in some. In, many ways around the world. You know you asked about. Centering prayer and sin and. I responded in a way to the emptying. I would at the same time. Not Want to take from centering prayer its. BEAUTY IN A. Practice. Utah, it's I am not I wouldn't say oh. These are the same. You know I. I think this process of emptying. There's only. Emptying into what from what I mean, there's just one. But the paths. You know they have their distinct characteristics and. I obviously have. I mean I just have these roots in Christian faith at? That show themselves in various ways, but Zinn has called my name. And so you know why that I mean. I can do no other. You know it's just. A great gift and perhaps something of a mystery. How how? I, you might ask yourself. How could we be so? Lucky. To find this path. There Times where I actually feel. It Oh this I was born. At I, don't there's nothing grandiose about that my goodness? You know we're always beginning a beginner's mind is. Just the fact. And it's shown. Moment to moment. But at the same time, it's like I I could never have imagined a life. Of such meaning and Opportunity And It's sort of infinite possibility. And in that sense, you're saying tied to your practice, yes. this particular path. That I happened you could say perhaps. You know. That was there at just the right time in the right place? I don't. I. Don't know why, but I'm just I mean. There's this Japanese poem my teacher. would quote often early on in. My practice at translation anonymous. I don't know the reason why. But Tears of gratitude fall for my eyes. Feel like that's That's a good place to wrap it up. I appreciate so much you taking the time. The first. Person Than A. or even broader Buddhist tradition. That I've been able to have on so. Value Having your perspective on that and. Thank you Justin and Somehow you know when you contacted me. Some months ago, I was traveling right. I was launched into that and this seemed so far away, and we had at the time I had no clue when this conversation would fall that it would be in the midst of social isolation. Honestly. Especial joy to. Talk to you today. Thank you very much. If you have a moment today. 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