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05:27 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"There is in the death tape. Jones talks about you. Know is just preferable that we died this way rather than at the hands of our enemies. Yeah the exact quote with something. Like i would rather spend. I would rather died this day then spent ten more days in your godforsaken world or something like that. Yeah yeah that is another thing that does definitely make this different from other call even though even though a religion initially it really turned into a political Lost my word. It turned political thing. Yeah i think after he embraced. Socialism is when he started to see that. And you know a lot of people like to conveniently gloss over jonestown when they're talking about areas and times in history win. Socialism marxism hasn't worked. it conveniently. forget jonestown as another failed experiment that interestingly it's right next to venezuela true i hadn't thought of that which is busily turning into the stone age under eat communism yup such an oil rich country too. Yep this just kind of a personal pet peeve of mine when they gloss over jonestown in that list right because they had every opportunity to to quote unquote do it right. Yeah oh yeah most definitely. Nobody was bugging. Nobody had they had no outside influences. it was just them choices.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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04:18 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Most likely they in turn send the army into jonestown and they say something that has never been seen before since. Oh yeah to the point that they even had trouble describing it over radio so they actually had to bring in the cameras. Yo that yeah just bodies on bodies. I'm bodies that they saw an initial reports said three hundred dead then it was four hundred than it was five hundred than it was six hundred. It took days before. The final tally because people were piled up on top of each other. Yep oh in. During all this. Jim jones dies by gunshot to the head fucking poison. Of course he wouldn't know and is it. Was it suicide or was it nut suicide. Was somebody pissed at suicide is the official report. I would imagine pretty early on. He probably walked back into his. Did it yeah. So that is all. I have on jonestown. Yes put this quote from steven one more time because it just so telling he was sick fucker any absolutely caused the death of almost a thousand people he did and you know it was the this. This shook the world. I and i know that because at the time i was actually in sweden. Oh wow and. I remember going to the library and pouring over the newsweek and time magazines reading every word about this and seeing the photos and just being aghast and appalled and just shake to my core that this kinda shit could happen You know in in this i. I watched this documentary series that was produced by the french and and subtitled and they one of the reporters like you know. We all thought that religion was wasn't interesting to people anymore. And here's this this whole cult. Were all these people died because of it yup. I think we'll continue to see it as well never eradicated. No not completely but you know it's it's tough. It's not an easy thing to commit to convince people to commit mass suicide not at all. That's a tough sell. It's a really tough sell. I mean even even manson didn't pull that off. No i mean he did in you know. Look at how hard it was jones where he had you know up to a huge other point there. Yeah you know. He hit him wrapped around his finger for so much other stuff instill over a third of the people wouldn't go along with it at least to answer. Kelly's questioned no. They weren't hoping for anything spiritual with the suicide. This is where that revolutionary suicide idea comes in. We're doing it for political. And they were not doing it for spiritual lamb..

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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04:38 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"He indefinitely bring the full force a law down on your head if you still around right. But jones's lieutenant maria cut sarah's walks up and is whispering jones stirring this and you just see him ask. Is it quick and then does it taste. Okay yeah so it. They had already been Mixing the the kool-aid yes. Yes they had been there on elsewhere in jonestown. human subjects were actually Testing the cyanide. Jeez ext mixed with as we pointed out earlier slave labor aid right kool-aid although widely reported as kool-aid yeah it would be like the difference between dr pepper and flavor ride. Drink basically kind of sucks though if you're the kool-aid brand and you have that shitty press that game of it yeah. I don't think hurt him much but probably wasn't fun for them. Yeah yup yeah. The death paper courted all ran. So the interesting thing is is that well i was going to talk about. The practicing is that is that. It's a good spot for that. Yeah we could definitely do that if you wanna get into the practicing so jones you know we talk. You mentioned earlier about how he had Told people there t. was poisoned but he spent a lot of time a lot of time practicing this exact scenario where people would be committing suicide by and and he he told them you know. Initially they practice but a lot of times he told them it was the real deal. Oh well just like hidden bet. Yeah they thought they were gonna die. Well that trick would only work once and people would get wise to it after that. Well he would pass it off as you know. You've you've passed your test. And they would feel more part of the group and more accepted true which we give them an incentive to not you know be credulous about it right interesting and and one of the reasons why that's important is because speaking of pilots we had just mentioned earlier. One of the axioms among pilots is that under stress you revert to your most recent training and so to make that suicide drink make it possible for people to go through that they had to practice it because so that when they are under stress in that moment they will revert to that training and drink it on. That's very true but nevertheless when they actually did do it. This time there were many people who did not drink willingly true and the other thing that they would do was literally just take a hypodermic needle. Oldham down and inject him with cyanide and then with many of the kids there they would take it in injected into their mouth. Yeah what two hundred and seventy so yes children they murdered yes oftentimes by their own parents. Yep which by the way was also part of the practice was to give your kids the the kool aid to drink our the practice and.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

03:01 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Dumb true very true. You think you'd hope anyway but yeah. It was during all this dead ryan decides before today takeoff. He's going to stay behind while the rest of them are more or less the rest. The group ed's back to the airstrip so they take off from there and we're in the hell was. I never felt jonestown so peaceful. It was ten minutes after this first group leaves tractor carrying about eight armed men leave jonestown in pursuit of them so so they had a flatbed truck you know kind of flatbed with the the rails on the side yes and then pulled by a tractor. Basically what was necessary. Yeah so they had. They had one with the delegation and then they had the armed men take taking up pursuit ya essentially and they would've actually left on a bit earlier than the ended up leaving if it wasn't for a storm the night before it goes to show how bad those roads were that then that storm 'cause you know that much more mud on there where you basically needed a tractor to get through. Yep so at is where that comes into play. And meanwhile during all this carter is trying to organize his family leaving to was standing there his wife on monica was there in his son malcolm. We're all their son. Malcolm was four and you know he goes on to say through all this that i felt like there was target on my back because i held saved. The congressman's live in. We're all gonna die. Geez they're leaving. Jones says to another one of his followers. You're not gonna leave here walking. Yeah and he meant today. Yeah nobody i mean you could say that you know you kind of think. That was just kind of a general concept but he really meant today. yeah. I mean he really. He knew he knew already because he knew they were going to be forced to do well. He knew what he sent those men to.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

Real Monsters

03:29 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"It was after that harris holds onto the note after ryan reads it. And he's actually interviewing. Jim jones the next day and he blindside set with it. Saying you know. What do you have to say about this. Note that saying we're basically prisoners here. And what did he say jones. He pretty well just dodged didn't answer him at all. So meanwhile is congressman. Ryan is still talking more people the next day november eighteenth nineteen seventy eight. Don sly man from the temple approaches behind ryan shaking all over in crying as he holds a knife to ryan's throat he says. Ready to die mother fucker. Wow in to their credit. Various men of jonestown actually tackled and disarmed before he could do anything so they haven't they haven't yet they haven't gone past the point of no return not quite yet And tim carter while all this is going on says to himself. Oh my god the leaders of murderer. And i've been playing peace and love and heath a fucking murderer. He said i felt completely naive. A meanwhile jones on after all this happens looks at one of the Camera people and he says to them on video. I've never felt jonestown so peaceful. Wow yeah and that made a lot of people were even the ones who weren't worrying so much up to that point. It's hard to imagine today that. A us congressman would go into the jungles of south america without a single member of a security element. Yeah he he just grabs some people that wanted to go with them off they went. Yeah that's weird. I never thought about that. You're right no protection at all. Nobody from the military even It's weird wonder why he didn't do that. Well because because he ed balls a stone for one yeah well they and he also worried about seats on the plane. Maybe that's why seats on the plane. He he feels that his position and rank protect him as much as anything very well could be a little bitty hubris who the who. The fuck is stupid enough.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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03:14 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"You know in the mail was also of course censored both ingoing and outgoing and throughout that the contents of letters home to family members were often literally dictated verbatim ghazni. His quote was at this time it was like a concentration camp. Yeah one of the One of the comments from him on the documentary was that during these midnight sermons that he would call them out to. They're always men with guns around the perimeter of the pavilion. He said but the guns weren't facing outward to protect them there are facing inward. Keep people there. Oh absolutely and and he had a roommate that had attempted to escape and was tortured so bad that he was afraid to do anything. I mean he he. He was afraid when the congress congressional delegation showed up. He was afraid to ask to go home. oh i wouldn't doubt it at all in you know the another thing that was really keeping people there that i don't think we touched on the site. It being just the huge amounts of jungle around them. yeah they didn't have a passport surrendered this right. They had an office in in the capital They had a. They had an office in the capital so they probably kept the passports so they weren't even onsite. yep so they also didn't have money right. 'cause you don't need it there. Yeah i mean the best thing that they could even hope for if they manage to by some miracle get out of that would be to get to the american embassy in georgetown which is one hundred sixty miles of a sickly almost impassable ground right away so yeah and it's not like these people had any clue even what direction to go even if they get out even if they wanna too so you snuck away into the jungle which direction restrictions georgetown from jonestown. How you even know that. They don't have any sort of supplies. Let alone compass or maps. Even if you had a map how do you know where the hell you are unless you have a sextant. For god's sakes yep it's not like they had. Gps note still talking wide at least twenty years before it's even invented yet which interesting story in its own but not bad cast the outlook. Look that up now. Meanwhile in san francisco the families of the cultus are really scared. So.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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03:28 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Jonestown started hitting about a thousand people the food shortages started happening. Which you know another interesting thing about that. That tells you what a real shit he'll this guy was. He had money throughout all of this. It take care of their needs in jonestown for literally decades. But he hadn't. Betty kept it to himself. Yeah yeah he hoarded dad and nobody knew so. The food shortages medical shortages started happening and it was also around this time when the loudspeakers in very isolated jonestown start going off all over. Yeah it's jones on them. Twenty four seven especially. Yeah especially the middle of the night shit that he would pull yep You know sleep deprivation sleep deprivation and malnourishment are two key bricks in the cult wall. Oh absolutely makes people that much easier to control once you get down to it absolutely moving ahead a bit to may nineteen seventy seven is when we have around nine hundred and johnstown. Let's see you know. Jones throughout all of is really driving home. They utopia angle it. Hey we're building our own communist utopia. But it wasn't. Was it just guessing here. Not all just spitballing utopias. Never are nope never ever and again around. This time he had steven jones says quote was is drug. Use was off the charts. So that's all getting too. Yeah you know in most of the time when. He's not when he's not rambling on the loudspeakers for several hours at a time. When he's not be raiding a follower doling out some sort of punishment around jonestown. He's literally bloated and passed out in his cabin. Jim jones probably the people's favorite time of the day. Yeah oh yeah nicholas. Around this time where they. He started a new punishment that even sedonia now called the box. It's literally a hole in the ground where people were put into it blindfolded and made to sit in it for quite some time and jones would tell whoever's sitting there that there's email snakes leeches all mad or of stuff in their wisdom and interesting how he uses that psychological ankle. Yeah big on the psychological torture. That was another thing. I didn't know until i started doing the research on this..

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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03:18 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Let's see. We already talked a bit about that. Nineteen seventy-three was when they skirted building jonestown guyana. Oh so they were there several years. Yeah yep on. The village initially only needed to hold about five hundred people which is interesting because it ended up with a lot more was like twelve hundred something like that. Yep it was around. Twelve hundred not to mention the fact that jones would bring in a huge entourages and he would travel with them to and one of the defectors. Jeannie mills on jones said something that i thought was kinda apropos to his mental state. More power he got sicker. He got well. Yeah it does that. She was going to say. I mean especially if if power is your objective There are some people who might be rare but it does happen but there are some people who have who accumulate power. Almost you know inadvertently yeah And it's not there. It's not their goal and they have a moral foundation outside of power seeking and it doesn't have that effect on them but most people who end up with power they go after it. Yeah they really do. Johnson is definitely one of them. Who i don't know just attracted to it sorta from day one i think but yeah you know they were getting defectors even back in california and one said that her kids actually told her quote. Go as far away as possible so we aren't the ones assigned to kill you. Wow yeah yep not not so. They won't find you. Yeah yeah so. We aren't the ones who have to kill you right. But yeah they so. They sent a contingent a people down there to start building jonestown. One thousand nine hundred seventy three and jones is still on the north american khan and he's usually very good at handling bad press but there has been a reporter sorta vonnas his asked for a while from the sf chronicle named marshall kilduff. He was writing a piece on Jonestown called inside jonestown for new west magazine and jones. Having a hell of a time keeping this guy away for so he ends up fleeing to guyana and Also again because his political base in san francisco really can't help him either so right yeah i mean he knows people pull now no. He doesn't have the sufficient poll there.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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04:05 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"And he started telling the members of the people's temple there that if we don't flee to guy in because it's a socialist country blacks will be put into concentration camps in the united states and they will be tattooing numbers on everybody's body still waiting for that i am mine. May maybe it's maybe it's just under black light. I don't oh yeah. Oh yeah kelly we will be getting to the sons towards the end of this but yeah. They went to guyana in south america. They drove buses down there. Initially right they did urban. That's a hell of a long drive. It's several thousand miles to get down there and not on good roads. Yep yep they got down there and they started building at any idea why they chose that country. Is there anything about that. Why did the socialist others others weren't at the time but jones like that. It was socialist. Okay i think he was trying to get a land deal with people in that government to because the area that they chose was literally. You couldn't imagine a place more out in the bfe. I'm fucked egypt for people who don't out in the sticks literally and vital thing about that was it kept people from escaping. Wanted to leave to this fucking jungle now. So here's my his. Here's how so the capital of john is georgetown. So they haven't international airport as you'd expect. Yeah but jonestown was hundred fifty miles from the capital. Now there was. There is an airstrip the you could fly into on a on a small prop plane and that was still five miles away from jonestown and not five miles like oh i gotta go to the mall. This is five miles on rough-hewn roads through literal jungle. Well actually there wasn't a way to drive to jonestown much at all not initially. Yeah well the only way that you had to get in there. What's the airstrip or you could take a river boat. Well at some point roads were cut to the airstrip from jonestown. Yeah yeah a couple of them but you know. There's no way to drive from georgetown to talk not from georgetown. no but from the airstrip to jonestown. You could drive but it was not even. That was not yeah. It's confusing georgetown in jonestown. Yeah that's it's easy to hear those. The same jonestown was five miles from this tiny little airstrip And there was a kind of a road that a heavy truck could get through a heavy truck or tractors. Yeah yeah the tractors pulling it in the condition of that road day. You were mentioning there. The airstrip actually gets pretty vital. The more we get into the sort of crescendo. Lean with what happens..

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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02:50 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"It it's pretty well known at least on the surface and it's a really good introduction to the topic. I mean it's hard to find a better one. Let's just put it that way. Oh absolutely yeah. It definitely is and getting into that before. We dive deeper into Jonestown itself and jim jones. I thought it might be instructive to get a definition of what makes a call yet to do that. I went digging next just before we got onto Find a definition or an article or something by a guy who's work. I had followed a bit in the past. And that's rick ross. He does a lot of cultivation and a lot of d program like yeah like family members will recruit him to try to help with that. Is it something for a while. That is a rough job. Oh man i can't even imagine. This is taking it from the piece he wrote. In the guardian word kalt can be broadly defined as quote formal religious veneration a system of religious beliefs and its body of adherence a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious and a great devotion to a person or idea as well as persons united by devotion or allegiance to an artistic or intellectual movement. Or figure. i'll go ahead and put that in the chat so people can see the full article. I think we're most familiar with a charismatic leader that that aspect of cult right. Yeah i think when it's used most nowadays it's definitely is to that. I was surprised here. word artistic in there I don't i can't think off the top of my head of colt. not that. I know all the colts Were art was at the center of it. You know with that definition almost made me think of something more like a cult. Film like dishonored following called. Yeah that's a that's a pretty Okay i mean we do use that term.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

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04:15 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Real Monsters

"Hello hello hello. This is west from real monsters. A mega wanted to take a few seconds in talk to you about pinker. It is the easiest way to make a guest and believe me. That was something that i was looking for men. I had to take over the tech side of our operation. It's free that allows you to do a lot of stuff when you get in there so head on over to anchor dot. Fm start today to get your opinions out be heard it can definitely help you Good evening it's another thursday night episode of real monsters. I'm your host escape barrett and joining me once again wes hob rick. How's it going on in all. We have a bit of special show tonight. Yes. we're kicking off a new recurring feature death cults. And we're choosing a to start off with the granddaddy of them in modern times. And that's jonestown. Absolutely this is man. This is a biggie. In many ways in so many ways still think that number attached to that as the greatest modern on for this story thing yeah go back a long ways to find anything close to it. Yeah i would imagine definitely all right but we're going to kick things off with do this week in crime history this week in crime history. I actually don't have anything for the history side of that. But i do have a couple of news items okay from this week and crime. Let's see this one just came across my feed before we were going live tonight. Mother killed toddler because he was getting in the way of an affair. Prosecutors say in glaucous turn new jersey. Prosecutors say new jersey mother killed her toddler son because she felt he was getting in the way of for extramarital fair. I wish this was the first time we'd heard of this still every time you hear about something like that. It just makes you think man. The human race is going a bit lower and yesterday you know it does me. It can feel like it. But we know i mean objectively. We know that's not really the case we're just more aware of the bullshit that's going on in other places in the world more than ever before so you know thirty years ago we would be.

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"jonestown" Discussed on The Investigation Guru

The Investigation Guru

07:45 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on The Investigation Guru

"Worse a field of body. Some many of them were just lying face down in the mud Frothing at the mouth just body after body after body just a sea of senseless death the fbi recovery forty five minute audio recording of the mass poisoning in progress and again you can listen to this on from several different sources It's available easily. If you are interested in this new wanna hear what jones was saying. You know the kind of the events of that day. I don't know why you would but it it is out there for you. If you want to hear it. I am not gonna play on this podcast or or i'm not gonna posted on on the show notes on the website or anything but If you are interested it is definitely out there. It's a it's a tough listen but You know. I think it's important that That it'd be heard But i want to warn you that is not it is not a pleasant experience Especially knowing what all went down and what happened while that tape was going on The reason given by jones to commit suicide was again. This consistent previously stated conspiracy theory that Intelligence organisations were allegedly conspiring against the temple. He he began. You know he was very very paranoid he was. He was on drugs he. He began taking a lot of drugs back when back when they were still in california. And you know the the military was gonna come in hearing in parachute in here on us. And he was really convinced that they were gonna invade him and he was probably right once. Once you know. Congressman visit happened in everything that went down on the on the airstrip though that was probably a pretty fair assumption but again he consistently held these beliefs that that they were targeted. And they were. You know going to be going to be tortured and and going to be you know captured and all of these things. They were going to be overtaken. And that's that's just kind of how he really again maintained a great deal of control and that is you know with them being completely isolated and not able to get any kind of independent independent news Ever again everything. They heard everything everything they knew about the outside world from the point that they got there until the point that they died came from jones he was the was the only voice that they heard and whatever he told them began to again kind of brainwash. And you know. They began to see him as the only true. The one true source of truth and his interpretations were were warped and probably likely not not very accurate but What he told them and how he managed to continuously ingrain in them that they were a target. Were consistently going to you know the the threats were always just just outside just outside and they were always trying to reach in. It was just a matter of time and the right around the corner and the sense of urgency was very very important. It's sense of this was this was impending and they didn't have much time in everything was especially especially on that day When all of this was going in jones can be heard saying over and over again. Hurry hurry hurry You know don't don't think about it. Don't worry just just just do it. One temple member christine miller again to express her reservations toward the beginning of the tape. The you know she didn't she stood up and said. Why do we have to do this. What we have to kill ourselves There's no there's no reason for this and jones had been talking about going to russia About possibly relocating to communist russia and taking the temple over there because again you know that was kind of the seat of where his views were manifest and So she brought the ideal. Can we still not escape to russia. Is that still. Is that still on the table. Why do we have to kill ourselves. Why do we have to end this. Like this. and jones continued to play off that You know russia no longer wanted us and russia you know turned us down That's no longer an option. We need to do this so that we aren't. We aren't taken prisoner. Were not taken captive and again this idea of of hurrying and pushing and always you know everything had to be rushed. And he didn't want them to think about that and he just wanted them to india. You have to kind of understand it that they are completely insulated that they have had no contact with loved ones or anyone outside of the group itself in a lot of people you know. Don't understand this about Colts psychology The leader is viewed as as a god. The leader is viewed as a perfect. And they they tend to take their the word of the leader as the word of god that is. Somehow you know whether it's an interpreter. Or whether he speaks for god or he has the ear of god That's a very very common thread and very very common theme in these types of coal behaviors and So jonesing even said you know why you know if you see me as god than i i will be your god and so that that was that was a constant permeating message and the the fact that this was all that they heard over and over and over again it really ingrained in their psychology and it really took over their ability to think for themselves and that that is a very very important factor in facet to to kind of understand why how this was able to to happen in the jonestown. Massacre has been studied a time and time again when we look at colton when we try to examine how this could possibly happen. How someone can convince other people to to kill themselves in you know this is. This is not the only instance of that you know. Heaven's gate cold others. Have come down the pike that have purported to commit suicide on on the command of their leader But but this idea that you know someone. Finally standing up in questioning really upset jones when when other members started in and began crying in wailing jones council stop. These hysterics is not the way for people who are socialist or communist die. No way for us to die. We must die with some dignity. Don't be afraid to die. Death is just stepping over into another plane and he continued to hammer this home over and over and over again a jones's wife marceline apparently protested to killing the children. She wanted to to. you know. Maybe maybe we should let the children. Children live when she said that she was forcibly restrained and then joined the others in poison yourself. Tim quarter a temple. Member who escaped into the woods during the tragedy summed it up pretty perfectly and a pardon the language here. But this is this is a quote. I said quote. We were just fucking slaughtered fucking slaughtered. There was nothing dignified about it. Had nothing to do with the revolutionary suicide and nothing to do with making a fucking statement. It was just senseless waste senseless waste and death in quote at the end of the day. Jones concludes quote. We didn't commit.

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"jonestown" Discussed on The Investigation Guru

The Investigation Guru

07:57 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on The Investigation Guru

"Potentially even illegal so he started. Draw a lot of scrutiny and a legal attention on on what he was allowing to happen in his church so he took that the New decided several years before the actual move the that he he wanted to get the hell out of dodge and so he started areas to take the the church and he settled on on jonah. In in south america he promoted jonestown as a means to create both a socialist paradise sanctuary from the media scrutiny in san francisco jones purported to establish it as a model communist community adding that the temple comprised quote the purest communist in quote Jones did not permit members to leave the settlement so he took a small group at first down there in had them start. Construction start building and once they were down there he did not want them to leave in. This will come up again later on and we talk about the the final days and this was a again a very very common norma rule in a lot of the cultist type of environments You know he started to cut them off from from their family and started to remove them from any kind of news of the outside world so they were very very insulated community and really kind of the only means of outside communication. The only on news that they had of the outside was from jones himself so he really controlled every single aspect of their lives. And they were completely insulated and really just lived. The community lived breath. They weren't allowed to talk on the phone. They weren't allowed to watch television. Listen to the radio in anything like that. And all of their all of their news or information came from jones himself. They were forced to give up their passports and they were eighteen to twenty hours a day. Just literally working all the time trying to get this project ready and get this area ready for the nine hundred people that were later come down. They were completely self contained. And self reliant so they had everything they needed. They produced everything that they needed all of their food. All of their clothing all of their medical care everything was taken care of right there at the site. So he he had. Doctors had nurses at people who could farm. He had people. Who could you know the build you know the structures and actually create the buildings and things like that carpenters engineers and those types of individuals so they needed no outside help whatsoever and they were completely able to you know. sustain themselves. They needed nothing from the outside world and they provided everything they needed for themselves. They were truly on. You know on their own and completely isolated. In the compound there was also a speaker system where jones could make announcements to the entire community and of course only jones was allowed to use it. Can he use the day and night to spread his conspiracy theories about the corrupt nature of the us. How the temple was a target. The temple was always a target. Everyone was always out to get them and he knew that you know he kind of saw the writing on the wall and knew that this was you know he was starting to draw some unwanted attention to begin to propagate his belief in what he termed translation wants his followers settled in jonestown claiming that he and his followers word all die together. Move to another planet and live. Blissfully took another box on your weird behavior bingo card He talked about these things constantly over the loudspeaker it was. It was just no matter where you were in the compound. You could hear it all the time when day and night. When he was talking to them when they were falling asleep he was talking to them when they got up in the morning. He was talking to them when they worked. He was talking to them when they eight It was just always constant constant constant. Jim jones in their ear and he was again. The only the only voice of one of the only source of any kind of outside news or or any kind of Information that they got they were allowed to watch television or contact any any of the member in any anything outside of the area itself and back in the states. The pressure again was was really heating up. They began to get word that You know he was trying to escape and in start building. Nece kind of fundamentalist area down in south america and Taking a lot of a lot of american citizens with him and you know a family members of temple members were really starting to become very very concerned because a lot of their family members were deciding to leave and go over there with him and kind of start this new life. And you know they were. They were starting to wonder and worry if they would even ever see or hear from their family members again jones began to draw increasing scrutiny from the public and from concerned family members who claimed you have received reports from former temple members who escaped by deborah layton provided an affidavit detailing crimes by the temple and substandard living conditions at jonestown in november of nineteen. Seventy eight congressman. Leo ryan led a fact-finding mission to jonestown to investigate allegations of human rights abuses is delegation included relatives of temple members an nbc camera crew and reporters from various newspapers is group arrived in. The guy needs capital of georgetown on november fifteenth. And two days later they were transported to jonestown attractor transporter cell reception for the delegation that evening at the central pavilion in jonestown. And it was really kind of big huge celebration in a party and he wanted to kind of send off the image that everyone was happy there. You know everything was was going great and they were singing and dancing and everyone was laughing and they had a big huge feast and just really kind of rolling out the red carpet. Where this congressman. Who had come down there to to really look at what was going on because he had received word at a lot of bad things. Going on in congressman ryan was kind of those fringe congressman. Who really kind of made a name for himself by doing a lot of things that a lot of other politicians might not do for instance he In order to kind of investigate the prison reform in prison justice he actually became a he actually locked himself in In a prison. But i will leave us for something like eight days and he lived the life of a prisoner to really kind of get a firsthand account of what was going on so that he could really make some informed decisions and so he would. He was really more of kind of a hands on type of politician. Not something that we really have much of today but He was really kind of one of those guys that wanted to get his hands dirty. And make sure that you know. He wanted to experience things. First-hand congressman ryan Made a speech during the ceremony. Praising jones saying that quote a few members that i've spoken with say that this is the best thing that ever happened to them in quote in. This of course received thunderous applause from the members. Who were there. And a lot of the group that was with ryan kind of thought that this was a little bit rehearsed in manufactured in seemed not not genuine. It was over. The top delegation members. Felt that the this performance had been rehearsed and that it was going to tree reflection of the Of the conditions in the camp that they had been almost coerced into this performance. That everything was wonderful and everything was grand and everyone was so happy and ecstatic to be there and it. Was you know the best thing that ever happened to them during the reception celebration Temple member vernon ghazni actually passed a note meant for ryan to nbc reporter don harris requesting assistance for himself and another temple member monica begbie and leaving settlement so he He kind of pulled one of them. You know by the by the arm in handed them a note secretly handed them onoda being. You know we want to leave. We do not want this. This is not how things really are in. 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"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

Fun Time Horror Show

02:22 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

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"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

Fun Time Horror Show

03:34 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

"Just let them grow up and be dummies like they want them to be not grow up to be a thirst like the one and only jim jones. I like to think that for opportunity for leading town be not read. It could be but what jonestown is. Thank you not to be feared. It is not to be feared. It's a friend. Hit the friend sitting there. Show your love for one another. Let's get gombe. let's get gone. We had nothing we can do. We can we can separate ourselves from our own people. Twenty years leyland demo rotten nursing home through all these years they took it and put us in chains. And that's nothing that's this is that that there's no comparison to that to this roberts of our land and they've taken us and driven into we try to find ourselves. We tried to find a new beginning. But it's too late. You can't separate yourself from your brother and your sister. No way i'm going to do it. I i refuse. I don't know who fired the shot. I don't know who killed a congressman. But as far as i'm concerned i killed him. You understand what i'm saying. I killed him. he had no business coming. I told him not to come know. I was a degree of dignity. Lay down your life with dignity. Don't lay down with tears and agony. Nothing to death is like mac that stepping over another plane. Don't don't be that way stop the hysteric those communist die no way for us to die. We must die with dignity soon. We'll have no choice now. We have some choice you think they're gonna tell allow it to be done and allowed to get by with it. Must be insane dumping little rat. So god.

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"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

Fun Time Horror Show

01:59 min | 1 year ago

"jonestown" Discussed on Fun Time Horror Show

"Members building jonestown often sent messages and videos back to the members that remained in the us giving them updates and building their excitement to relocate referring to jim jones dowels father and jonestown as the promised. Land promised land is working on the bulldozer. Right now i am a cleaning up. Parts of the road that have been messed up by the rain. Darren how do you like here in the promised. Land you kinda sign. It's better than you are off the record. It broke loose when it hit me. When i stand on top of the record knocked me clean off and it bounced off me and hit the truck. It should have went through me and kill me. But i'm still alive. Thanks to father. Oh it's really nice here. We're going on a scouting mission to get some barrels along with leaves barrel the barrels to put a water in the stores and binds. Tie up the banana trees tank. Tim and i was pressurising. Are well and i was leaning against us tank. When it blew up you can see it. Split in the bottom and across the top and the explosion knocked me eight feet right through the air. I live on the ground on my shoulders. I came out without a bruise the tank and the pump. When it encircled tim the wires broke. They were laying in the water. We were both standing in water and neither one of us read received a shock. Bruce scratched or nothing names. Don twenty and I'm grateful to be down here. It's more freer down here. And it's more beautiful there. I wouldn't get along with people very much down here along with people. Learn about new machineries. I haven't even seen before. It's really getting along great here..

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Chino Shoho Yuko Chino

Cults

05:06 min | 1 year ago

Chino Shoho Yuko Chino

"Sixty nine year old. Yuko chino's hopes to avoid. The apocalypse were dashed when her followers were unable to rescue. The wayward bearded. Thomas chan from a tokyo river with the end of the world. Imminent chino and her followers fled to a mountainside road where their convoy stopped after several days of snarling. Traffic and headaches for locals police arrived and barricaded the group to monitor them on the day of their apocalypse. And hopefully past the authorities planned to keep chino and her followers under watch until the press and other gawkers moved on but as may fifteenth quickly approached. Everyone was on high alert. A minor earthquake struck. Tokyo potentially foreshadowing chino's cataclysm chino's followers readied their minds and bodies for a swift death. And then the morning of may fifteenth arrived. The group eagerly awoke to see if they could spot the mysterious tenth planet bureau in the sky but they were only met with some warm spring rain showers. They held their breath for the rest of the day waiting for monstrous earthquakes. But those never came and when the sky cleared up new bureau wasn't anywhere to be seen. There were no reports of disasters anywhere on earth. The world capped spinning pana wave. The science wing of chino's group immediately went into damage control mode. They announced that. Chino delayed the doomsday. For one week. Chino said the fearsome date was now may twenty second one panel wave follower rationalized. The lack of apocalypse by saying the gods and our chairman did not wish for the end of the earth. This is going to take over on the psychology here and throughout the episode. Please note the nasa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks greg when chino's date for the end of the world came with no fanfare. You'd think it might be challenging for her devotees to continue putting their faith in her but continuing to hold beliefs after a failed. Prediction is actually quite common. According to psychiatrist. Neil liser if a cult member had strong beliefs and sacrificed a lot continuing to believe might be less painful than discarding everything. They've stood for. He wrote the occurrence of a prophetic disprove. Rationalization must follow in order to assuage anxiety created by this this confirmation wiser even specifically wrote the this rationalization may take the form of an admission of the miscalculation of the predicted date. He said for truly committed believers prophecies cannot and do not fail even though pana wave postponed the end of the world by a week the authorities continued to keep a close watch on them. The public still had no assurance that the group wouldn't turn out to be dangerous in the vein of a previous called called omission. Rico ocean rikio scar japanese society forever when they released talks six seren gas into the underground subways of tokyo. In march of nineteen ninety-five that attack resulted in twelve deaths and more than five thousand injuries. Ever since then japanese authorities were wary and watchful over bizarre and apocalyptic religious groups in addition to any comparisons to option. Rico the actions of other cults such as heaven's gate toward the people's temple also left them on alert in the example of heaven's gate thirty nine cult members committed group ritual suicide the deterioration of the jonestown encampment of the peoples temple resulted in the deaths of more than nine hundred individuals. So after may fifteenth came and went the police nervously watched and waited to see what chino and her followers might do. Next tensions were high at the encampment as cult members who just been granted. Another of life continued with their daily tasks. The police and press marveled as chino's flock bother to do laundry and dane duties as the apocalypse approached. But they watched closely to see if there are any signs of a sinister plan. Most of the other bystanders were there for entertainment but some wondered what if chino was right. The old reclusive woman seemed so sure and her conviction spoke volumes the days slowly past and then may twenty second finally arrived but just as before nothing extraordinary happened. Chino's followers were disappointed but most never lost faith in their leader. The authorities hung around for a few more days but when they realized the group wasn't dangerous they lost interest and broke down their barricade.

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"jonestown" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

01:40 min | 2 years ago

"jonestown" Discussed on 710 WOR

"And at this moment this is Joanne Columbus New Jersey hello Sir hi Hey rob Russia is going good Sir I see I pulled your screen I was discussed it but I get all new now because this is just an expansion of also being called oracles three years ago right what if trump his supporters are call thank you have a lot Jonestown Guyana and the Kennedys were Jimmy Jones Hey what what about what Obama was a like to all the school kids being assembled in school auditoriums to sing songs the dear leader absolutely love Obama Obama is great we love all by the one and only we got how they wanted to relax about Franklin Roosevelt third term without a cold getting a call yeah exactly of course they they what we're what we're doing here is artfully and cleverly pointing out the deep hypocrisy of these glittering jewels a colossal ignorance of unfortunate doesn't stick to them but here's the thing they think that the people there were insulting are not hearing this they open we have been insulting trump voters for three and a half years and counting well hello five years if you count the campaign five years and counting they wonder why they are not able to drive a wedge between trump as voters when all they do is insult them and now trump is using mind control invisible strolled lights sub consciously when you.

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Jonestown memorials held at cemetery with remains of 400

Joel Riley

00:28 sec | 4 years ago

Jonestown memorials held at cemetery with remains of 400

"Dozens gathered at a ceremony cemetery in Oakland, California Sunday to Mark the fortieth anniversary of the Jonestown tragedy and the completion of a memorial there. Evergreen cemetery is a final resting place of over four hundred of the more than nine hundred people who died in Jonestown Guyana on November eighteenth nineteen seventy eight they were members of the people's temple cult led by Jim Jones who led them to commit mass suicide five non cult members. Including congressman Leo Ryan were murdered at a

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