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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

07:25 min | 6 months ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

"It risks separate in these things out the Anti Semitism racism, putting them with Limburg at the end of the novel, then Roosevelt is restored to the presidency in having lost. The election is nineteen forties in DC election in the book. On that seems to me, risks sort of saying that really all the origin of antisemitism in the United States lies with Fascism in America nineteen thirties. We know that that simply isn't the case there. All kinds of political movements in the United States in the nineteen twenties thirties were permitted by some form off antisemitism, and that was a peculiar to the United States a tool as we nine tragically, antisemitism terms up in all kinds of different politics I mean the Scalia former think of western politics has some relationship to antisemitism. And if we look at what was on elite universities in nineteen twenties in the United States in terms of discrimination in terms of discrimination against Jews on them, what the relationship was of the new deal to Rice I think it's very deepen actually quite painful question as well so if you were going to try tie Sarah suggesting make. Fascist America very racist where African Americans were concerned as well then having Roosevelt as the conduct. Reestablishment of order at the end that would raise I think some more good questions about how racist new deal was particularly in terms of housing, so I think that that a kind of quiet, which in some sense of story is actually to comforting full. The way we should try to grapple with what was going on into America. So one more thing that. I've been thinking about. I'd have the ability to answer this question but in this context we make comparisons between. North, American Fascism in European fascism, but there's another way at least potentially describing the American story, which is comparisons with south. America and the ways in which authoritarian militaristic racist politics can take hold has taken hold in South American countries is also true that in the nineteen twenties and Nineteen Thirties. There were many fascist movements inspired by Europe in south. America as well as North America is at least a case for thinking that the Europe North American cars and misses out the ways in which. The various iterations of this in North America also have South America Paulo. There certainly a case to be made, and it really goes to my point about the limits of everyone's expertise in the way that it encourages us unconsciously to think about our particular areas as being somehow, it becomes a kind of unconscious. Because, it's the boundaries of what you know until you think it. kind of stands bubble, and and works in its own context without being in a related in these ways, all of which is by way of saying that that I don't know enough about south. American, history to my shame to be able to comment in any kind of depth on that, but certainly. Immediately you think about Perron Argentina for example and again I. I'm sure that Argentinian historian would come in with exactly again. Analogous questions and debates about whether Perot. Movement is best understood as fascism. What is its relationship to fascism? How does it derive out a fascism? How does it differ from fascism and these are exactly the questions that we need to answer, and I would love for you guys to bring on a South American. And believe me I would tune in, and then obviously that takes us to Bolsonaro today. There are people Jason Stanley at Yale, arguing right now very vehemently that Bolsonaro is absolutely a needs to be understood as a classically fascist figure again. That's beyond the bounds of my expertise, but certainly people who know what they're talking about are making that argument and they're making it. It strongly so it certainly an important part of the question, and it goes to my kind of broader point, which is as as kind of against thinking of fascism is something that only happens in Europe and or can't happen in America or didn't happen in America which isn't to say that I'm certain of the answer. I hope that's clear, but the ways in which. Which I think we need to think it through and keep it an open question and keep thinking through what what fascism means I mean part of the problem. We haven't gone to this, but it's foundational to the whole thing is that it's impossible to define fascism and one of the reasons. It's impossible to define. Fascism goes back to that point, I made about alter. Alter nationalism so it will be singular in each of its context, which means that they're end, people come back to phrases like family, resemblance or Umberto Eco's famous idea that fascism this fuzzy. You know when you see it, but it's very difficult to pin down with any kind of fixed definition, because it just keeps eluding your grasp, because each integration takes its own form. If we didn't think about the United States in twenty twenty or indeed over the past few years. The trump years. The word fascist is used a lot. It was used when he was elected. It's being used a lot in the past few weeks. Only there are also other ways of talking about it. Guess to my point, which is the other thing people sometimes say is that United States is becoming a banana republic all. The United States is failing in ways that they don't want to characterize fascist on. They want to find another frame of reference. Again. What counts as a Banana Republic is an? Open question. If we think about the word itself Fascism in the context that we discussed it very briefly on this podcast took into Jonathan Shannon from the Guardian about the times in on the control of around Tom Cotton's op-ed, send in the troops and the way that the Times itself then published. Another pet a couple of days later by Michelle Goldberg Cooling Tom. Cotton's op-ed fascist. Basically saying my newspaper two days ago, whatever it was published a fascist op-ed. When people use the word fascist now in that kind of way. It, stretching it to fall, we've had the kind discussion where we've tried to get to the complexity and the nuance of a term that for many people, it's absurd. It's almost obscene to complexity and nuance affi- it. Like, you say Sarah People note when they sit and if they see in our newspaper, they want cool out. What do you feel about just take that example, the use of the word fascist in that context. Well I. Think they're really kind of two ways that I think about the question of using fascism. In this moment, one is about kind of historical accuracy in the ways that we've been talking about, and the other is about utility political utility I i. mean I literally think about this all day every day? It's all that I've been working on and I. I did want to say in terms of the the dismissal jumping back on something, but I think it's related in terms of the question about Helen's reservations about the ending of the pot against America about it. Being to need into comforting is an exceptional standing, right says. Says that America can just go back to everything. Being fine and democracy will be restored in it, so it's actually a mess. David knows I've I've actually been working on an essay reviewing the HBO version of this which it's worth saying does find a different ending, because it won't. It doesn't find that comforting..

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

09:05 min | 6 months ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

"Hello my name's David. Runciman, and this is talking politics. Last week we spoke to Jonathan. Shannon, who is head of opinion at the Guardian about facts and opinion in the current polarized age. And since then at the New, York Times dot. Question has blown up on its almost blown up newspaper so Jonathan's back to help us understand what's going on. Talking politics is brought you in partnership with the London review of books. Europe's leading magazine of Culture and ideas improve the quality of your solitude with a subscription to the. They'll send you a section analysis of the politics, economics, sociology and science behind the crisis and reporters from around the world. But also gloriously unrelated Richly immersive distraction from the world's best authors and critics writing about history and philosophy Austin technology, fiction and poetry just go to L. A. B. Dot me, slash talk and get your first twelve issues for just twelve pounds. Thoughts Alabi dot me, slash tool. Hi Jonathan I David. I think we should try and sketch out what it is. We're talking about people who may be aren't quite as inside this stories. We Are I. Think we should say up front. This isn't really a declaration of interest on your part, but you do hold at the Guardian, which is in some ways, assistant newspaper The New York Times. The role that was held by James Bennett. Who has just resigned the New York, times is at that. Say That I would say that. Within The Guardian. Yes, there are big differences which will come to a moment between the way that the New York Times is structured managerial ear kind of editorially the other difference. Worth noting I suppose is that my job does not. Encompass Management of the editorial board, which rights the leaders, and that is part of Bennett's job, but what seems significant and maybe I should just say it now is that in the New York Times there has been always a. Very overt separation between the news side of the paper and the opinions of the paper so something unique about James. Bennetts position is that he did not report to Dean Bouquet. Who is the editor? In chief of the New, York, times he reported straight UP TO ARTHUR SULZBERGER AG as they call him. Who is the publisher? An you do report Kathleen I. Report to Caffeine. Yes, yeah, I mean the Guardian doesn't. British newspaper has the structure. So. Let's just briefly sketch out for people who don't know so. It starts with an op-ed. That was commissioned and published by Tom Cotton trump supporting Republican. It was given the headline. Send in the troops. And then all hell broke loose suggests sketch it out for us. How all hell breaks loose. So this was just after we talked. I think so Tom. Cotton is a senator from Arkansas. He's very young. I think he's about forty three. He's a Harvard graduate and former soldier I believe a veteran. He represents I suppose. A kind of next generation trumpism if you will. Hear someone who certainly is seen, and probably sees himself as a possible future Republican, presidential candidate. Cotton wrote a piece suggesting that the way to address the chaos taking place. On the streets of American cities was to send in the military. He says some elites have excused this orgy of violence in the spirit of radical chic, calling it an understandable response to the wrongful death of George Floyd. Those excuses are built on a revolting moral equivalents of rioters and looters to peaceful law, abiding protesters, and he also said and I think the phrase. It's become notorious as that. One thing above all else will restore to streets and overwhelming show of force to disperse detain and ultimately discover lawbreakers that phrase, an overwhelming show of force, strong, strong stuff. I think we all agree what I think is most notable most relevant for the purposes with conversation we're about to have. Is that the? PUSHBACK I suppose against. The publication of this piece began. Inside The New York Times or rather, presumably it began outside the New York Times, but it was very quickly. Picked up by. Staff members of the New York Times on what must have been Wednesday night? The night that the piece was published I can remember before going to bed seeing some people starting to post on twitter about this and I think you might know this better than me. If you have the dates at your fingertips, I think the same nighttime maybe. Or, maybe first thing the next morning. The New York. Times published a piece. About the disquiet inside the New York Times over the Tom Cotton piece, and then James Bennett made a statement which was also published in your time. One of extraordinary things about the story is. It's all in the New York Times only things that we're talking about. James Bennett the the equivalent of you, the head of opinion in a different role from me, trying to justify it, but it was a pretty agonized justification, he more or less ended by saying. He wasn't sure whether he done the right thing. Not He justified it. In the name of a newspaper of the New York Times, readership and record needing to. Publish a wide range of us. It was that kind of defense there. He was already. It was clear very uncomfortable. Yeah. It's an interesting thing to look at this piece that he wrote which was kind of part of a newsletter that goes out to the New York Times subscribers, but then they put it on their website where he says I'm not in favor of deploying federal troops and the Times editorial board has argued against. Such, propositions in including trump's use of federal forces in Washington I referred when we spoke last week to a kind of. Classical Model I called. which governs a lot of our thinking about the relationship between the press, the public and power. And Bennett's. Defense of the Tom Cotton piece is very much in the spirit of one aspect of classical model, especially as it has been interpreted at American. Newspapers and especially at the New York Times. We can maybe talk more about this, he says we published cotton's argument in part because we committed to times readers to provide a debate on important questions like this, it would undermine the integrity of independent and independence of the New York. TIMES, if we only published views that editors like me agreed with so this is. A familiar argument and I suppose probably an argument. I would say that no one disagrees with I. Don't think you could find anyone in journalism. Including me who thinks that the purpose of an opinion section is to publish pieces that reflect the views of the editor or that you should only published pieces that reflect the views of the editor is a bit of a Straw man. I, suppose in that regard, right? We'll get onto the debate. Questions of that throws out. Pretty need complete the timeline. That know where we're heading. It's very hard not to get drawn. That's part of what's extraordinary about this story. At every stage, these huge issues open up so Bennett and the new times itself eventually publishes this kind of slightly agonized defense, but disquiet grows and Yo-. Times also publishes on those same opinion pages an op-ed from one of their columnists Michelle. Goldberg Headline Tom Cotton's fascist or ped-. Tom Cotton himself tweets about. His views about being called fascists by the newspaper. That's published his own opinion. But in the end, the opposition grows and yesterday James Bennett resigned and the paper as I understand, it gave as the reasons for his having to step down that this piece that was published on his watch, did not live up to the newspapers standards, but these were framed in again. PHILLY classical term standards of fat checking. It had been poorly edited. The piece was badly expressed implication. Implication being I suppose that was a version of this piece would have been acceptable, and this wasn't a now. We're ready into the audit. That's yeah, we all now Nice admit something out missed any crucial steps out, and so the newsroom revolted I mean that's the other thing I'm slightly lost track of the actual day by day Tiktok of it, but I think by Thursday or Friday..

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

Talking Politics

06:11 min | 6 months ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Talking Politics

"Hello my name's David. Runciman and this is talking politics. Today Helen I took Jonathan Shannon. Who is head of opinion for the Guardian newspaper? We're talking about political opinion and political fact in a deeply polarized world. Talking politics is brought you in partnership with the London review of books. Europe's leading magazine of Culture and ideas improve the quality of your solitude with a subscription to the. They'll send you exceptional analysis of the politics, economics, sociology and science behind the crisis and reporters from around the world. But also gloriously unrelated Richly immersive distraction from the world's best authors and critics writing about history and Philosophy Austin. Technology, fiction and poetry just go to hell, be dot me, slash talk and get your first twelve issues for just twelve pounds. Thoughts Alabi dot me, slash talk. So, Helen, as usual, is in London I'm in Cambridge, Jonathan, Yeo, in Stevenage right I just outside Stephen Jess. We're allowed to say that that's probably. Secrets. There's a lot we could cover here and we're going to talk about some big themes to do with. Political opinion means in the kind of new cycles that we're living through now, but we should try and frame it through some of the the bay, controlled cities that we will be living through, and before we come onto covert, and before we come to what's happening in the United States at the moment. Maybe we could start with brexit. You at the you've been at the Guardian through the Brexit is you edited? God long reads before he became head of opinion altogether. So now you cover the the short term opinion psychos well, there is difficulty in nine how to think about all of that frenetic opinion, some of which you will have commissioned during the brexit years that kind of fizzled out the heightened state of political opinion and political opinion writing. Particularly in two thousand nine hundred nineteen. The kind of almost hysteria around Brexit in very serious opinion pieces, and then poof. It's gone so when you look back. Look back on that kind of journalism what you feel about it. He feel that was something. Illusory about it. It's interesting. I I moved to the UK in summer of two, thousand, fourteen and the first. Major News event that I encountered. Here was the Scottish independence referendum. It seems to me almost like it was a harbinger of things to come. I guess the thing about Brexit which I guess is going to hang over a lot of the things we're going to talk about is. The extent to which. This period that you're describing made. Kind, of politics and political commentary. Feel very urgent, very vivid, very immediate to readers of the Guardian certainly to to listeners of your podcast, right, there's a kind of sense of. Politics being very political again I guess I mean. I don't know a better way to put it in that. Did that make opinion writing different was we will come onto the question about whether it's still possible to hold the line if it was ever possible to hold the line between news and opinion, fact and comment, but the opinion pages became this vehicle for kind of tribal politics, and certainly in the Guardian, but everywhere I mean telegraph on the other side, and the ship volume of it as well the relentlessness of it, so it also partly felt like came political, because it was like this beast that had to be constantly fed with more and more, but often it was more and more of the same i. mean it had that kind of relentless urgency to it? And that's the thing that I mean he's come back. Maybe in relation to covert bill has gone with Brexit. I so that's the thing that to me. Makes it so feel like there was something slightly illusory about it? was there sort of bubble or A fantasy that this political reality or this kind of juncture was was more movable than it later turned out to be I mean. One of the things that I think is very interesting about this period is. And this may be seem like a bit of diversion is a relationship between sort of technology and. One of the things that we became aware of. Because of technology in the Guardian at another newspapers was the enormous appetite among readers for news and commentary related to Brexit. Every news organization has degree of sort of internal analytic sophistication. That didn't used to be there certainly when I started my career, it was not there, so we have quite a lot of data about who's reading. What what they like how long they read it for! How many people are aware they finding it? How are they getting here? All of that kind of stuff and I think you know. Some of this data has allowed us for instance to understand maybe in a way that was ahead of the curve. How much our readers cared about the environment and the climate emergency, and the extent to which you know, some of these subjects that I think may be traditionally. Journalists might have seen as not big box office. You know. Turn out to be very interesting to readers I. I think with Brexit and this is echoed in a in a very different way with corona virus. All of a sudden there was a feeling among many more people than think ever before that. What was happening every day in Westminster? The dramas of daily politics of parliamentary arithmetic of decisive votes people felt in a way that maybe they hadn't felt previously that that this really visceral. Personal effect for.

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on What The Suck?!

What The Suck?!

06:12 min | 10 months ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on What The Suck?!

"Two episode eleven. Wish upon I am your host Chris and your mother. My Mother's here with me as well. James cannot be here tonight so I got my mom with me Excuse me boy. She's a lifelong smoker. So she sounds like the Selma Patty Selma the margin centers. I would not dare robbed them of my presence. This James what's up. Everybody was everybody. Yes Oh tonight's episode is wish upon one of our another Theatrical release piece of crap That we are reviewing It's a twenty seventeen. American supernatural horror. Film it is directed by John. Are Leeann. Eddie supernatural horror produced by Cheryl Clark written by Barbara Marshall Starring Joey King Josephine Langford Ryan Phillipi. He's he's been gone for a while. key because it is fucking movie. Sydney Park and Elizabeth Roam Roam Roam Roam Harlan Anyway Music by Tom and Dandy musical duo from New York. Okay cinematography by Michael Galbraith. Galbraith edited by Peck Prior. I saw Tucker Pack Peggy Prior Pack Prior. Okay production. My name is peck. Produced by producer did produce. It did by. Is it true but charting productions? He has no pack. That man has no Dick. Cheney by Broadgreen Pictures Orion pictures released. I am Yeah Oh lord or at least eight July fourteenth 2017 Runtime is ninety minutes and had a budget of twelve million dollars and it made forget nutbag it up ninety minute running time unrated ninety one minute so somewhere. There's an extra minute minute minute of it of true gyms to add on I mean. That's that's a lot of of Extra scenes and shit for a whole fucking minute whole fucking minute Budget was twelve million. But it may twenty three point five at the box office which would make it a success. Unfortunately yes yes it would But it also had a nineteen percent rotten tomato score for Critics and thirty percent audience score now. The Holy Shit. Ninety tomato meter had ninety reviews and it was nineteen percents God. Dang last episode was only seven and they had and it was zero Holy Shit Ninety in only at night to and then the audience score was four thousand six hundred and one reviews and it had to thirty percent. Thirty yeah the critical consensus is that wish upon as neither scary nor original but it's fundamental flaws as a horror movie may make it destination for after midnight. Camp Genre enthusiasts. Such is my friend. James and I hear Destination Toilet A I in twelve days all right. So what is the movie all? You're asking well I can tell you okay. Why don't we got from duck a bunch of she it all right? Be careful what you wish for. Jonathan Shannon played by Ryan. Phillipi gives his a seventeen year old daughter. Claire Joey King in Old Music Box that promises to grant owners seven wishes Lord. Skeptical at first Claire Becomes Deuce bots dark powers when her life starts to radically improve with each wish. Everything seems perfect until she realizes that every wish she makes causes the people who are closest to her to die in violent elaborate ways other teenagers. Yes yes yes it's a yes. It's eighteen dying film now. They kill grandma. The Dog fucked is moving. I think there's a grandma and his mother fucker so And now So until we radar so rating system is a reverse rating system based on Modi's lund. Five one being the best. It's the one that we enjoy that we will watch over and over keeping a Q. And then five being the worst of the worst pieces of Shit and everything between is just whatever it is listen to the other episodes. You'll find out exactly if you don't know by now then you don't need no no you know if you own us by now. Oh God you can go was shut the fuck up dumb. Get the fuck out. That's either getting editors can end up in the fucking. We'll find out that'll be the trailer at the beginning. How it is who knows what would you say? We watched this movie and see how Shitty it is. I don't WanNa go all right car. This I wish Darcy chaplain just like go. Rot It's given me everything you love at. What cost you have to get rid of it. All.

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

The Stephen A. Smith Show

15:43 min | 1 year ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on The Stephen A. Smith Show

"Shell v Power Nitro plus premium gasoline now at four levels was of defense against gunk where corrosion and friction lots of stuff to get into here our number two before I get back to the calls as is a few things that I wanted to get into number one state of California the Senate. Ok's athletes bill NCWA calls harmful the NCW on Wednesday said legislation in California aimed at giving college athletes a chance to earn money while in school known as the fair pay to play act is harmful and unconstitutional and would quote up in the balance end quote of National Competition in College sports the Organization's Board of Governors in the letter Wednesday to California Governor Gavin newsom asking that the state not pass the bill. California's State Senate voted Wednesday for those of you. I don't know the past the fear pay to play act with a tally of thirty nine zero. That's the Senate vote in California. The California State Assembly approved a bill by by a seventy three to zero vote earlier this week. The bill now moves to newsome who have thirty days to decide whether he will sign it into law. Here's my belief thirty nine senators out of thirty nine thirty nine a state senators out of our thirty nine voted in favor the fair pay to play act terms of the state assembly seventy three out of seventy three voter food who the hell is the governor to say now you you got elected officials from every crevice of the state of California every single one of them seventy three plus thirty nine which equals is one hundred twelve all of them voted to pass this fear pay to play act right and put it into law. The bill is aimed giving college athletes a chance to earn money while in school now understand what the NCW saying it will cause an up it would up end the balance. Wa because because when you talk about athletes being able to make money off of their like this in names able to receive marketing deals except endorsement deals that kind of thing because that's what they're talking. What about here right what you're saying. Is that somebody at do is. GonNa give more than somebody drexel what you're saying. There's somebody at the the University of North Carolina in Kentucky on John John Calipari or something like that or somebody. Villanova is going to get paid all going to be compensated in a fashion that somebody at Mount Saint. Mary are right or Lee. Uh or someplace like that ain't going to get paid. Here's my response. All of that will come to America. Put Me what the Hell is this. I really don't understand it. Thank God for this and forget whether I supported it or not because I why do go forget all of that for a second. This is the problem that I have with the ANC AA and most of you damn people in Meson states of America is the problem by the way at the interpreting Stephen Getting a little bit of political clinical and what a debit toby so be it out had enough of this. I Love America. I I believe the greatest country to what just came for France beautiful over there by the way very very beautiful. I want to say that very beautiful over France. I'M GONNA hit Italy KNACKS WCHS hit England next put up from America you understand I'm a black man in America. Nobody is suffering more than us. You can make this stuff up. All your want to those. Are you critics. WanNa come at US talking about affirmative action. I got news for you. Nobody has benefited more from affirmative action the white woman that's right. I said member money. Josie knows brothers brilliant. No no no what are these people that doesn't believe in gender equity or anything like that to the victims go to spoils. If you've got it like that you could get it. God bless you. God bless you. This is America. I don't really understand this so let me get this straight is due do but to God Bomani and Pablo playing at Drexel and I'm brothers go at five hundred hundred every day Kansas and C. Double A. Tournament but this brothers compete for National Championships while playing under my Cesky. He's supposed to be equal to them. mm-hmm in America in America would walk around and see. There's the problem. Tell Ya at the right man Dan. I Ain't getting into socialism fascism democracy what I'm GonNa tell you this much and I don't mean it it an incendiary way when I say they do this because there are negatives about capitalism no doubt but I'm GonNa tell you something. I'M GONNA capitalist. Do I think that everybody it deserves equal stuff equally hell no hell no. I don't believe that I believe those also better deserves more than those who by the way my position has consisted remember when this title nine they came down and we started talking about female sports out. There folks was talking about equal pay. No I'm not down with that. I think so women deserve. I think Serena Williams Cocoa Golf Naomi or a sock in they deserve more money than most of the men but dammit if they Federa Brian Dal and joke bitch and they don't have that bosseaux appeal even though we know Serena does hey. That's the way it goes. You got women all over the place talking about listen female sports you remember when a coach but Notre Dame Macara regard her name is and she went off about women being putting on this play that tape over and over and over again because she was one thousand percent correct women more positions of power and more positions of influence no question about but when it comes to the Dallas if you ain't generate revenue damage you deserve it period now. We ain't talking women's tennis because we know what they can generate but the WNBA makes less than NBA players for reason all these women and world out here why why do they are going to the WNBA Games. Why don't you go. You got you got you got money. You Got Cachet. You Got Influence. How come you ain't going to the game you you've got the freedom to go out there as support the Wnba what do those turnstiles packed nineteen thousand people inside Madison Square Garden for the liberty inside the staple centers for the sparks inside the Verizon Center nation's capital for the mystics. I'd go get too much of the weeds. WNBA because all it names just real which I don't know all the names because I don't watch the WNBA like Dad. I watched someone who watch all of them like that. My point is these females plan in the world of sports there are there are plenty of women out here in this world who are successful accessible who are making money who who go to games who love sports but you're. WNBA make it as much as the NBA because is y'all ain't going to their games supporting their product the way you support the NBA product so why did you say this stuff about Equality Know Ladies and gentlemen. It's equal opportunity. That's way quality comes into play away opportunity but whoever you support you support and if somebody generates more support that somebody else their debit the people that generate great the most support to get the most money that's capitalism. You really really think that we liked sitting here in America and our police officers are law enforcement officials who put their lives on the line everyday for us. You think we don't deserve money. How about a firefighters. How about doctors you think we'd better nurse teachers serves. You think we don't know they deserve every penny they can get ladies gentlemen. They don't generate ray revenue. The Way sports does the way people don't Wall Street might the way to see over fortune five hundred company my that's why the money that's why there's a discrepancy money. Johnny go to those who generated they set up there and even talked about me back. I remember I was in the news. People speculate how much money I was making how much money I would make. You don't know you'll you'll never know for me. Let me tell you something. Do I believe that I deserve to be the lowest pay Jonathan Shannon. Look at me when I'm talking to. Y'All do I believe that I should be the lowest paid or some mid range pay dude AH ESPN or in the world sports media. Oh Hell no hell no now the work that I do that was put in it. The writings that I generate the revenue that comes with it you damn right. I deserve to be paid. I apologize for nobody. This is America capitalist. I'll be damned if I'M GONNA apologize for that. The State of California stepped up on this the NCWA as acting. I'm not accuse them of being this way but in this particular case that acting like they're anti-capitalist just what the hell you mean equality you eight equal the big five conferences. They get more money than other conferences. You had no problem with that problem. Nick Sabin get more money this coach at Villanova. I guarantee you next became more money than cut clip at Duke. Davos Sweetie signs a ninety any plus billion dollar contract which he deserves. I hear nobody complaining about that. We know how much money Mike Success he's making. I assume Oh you is top notch complain about that but it comes to these kids. Oh now we it unfair. Will you the go she ate show deals with CBS but he NC Double A. Tournament. I don't hear you sitting there complaining about that but with the kids are we gotta be fair. You WanNA teach kid in real life lessons. You remind them that this is America and to the victors go spoils you wanNA piece of this PA aw produce you want more get it done. Hey this is the revenue that we generated last sheen. You want more generate more entrace generate more revenue. If you teach teach them about and maybe you wouldn't have so much trouble. We don't WanNa talk about that. Doing you will walk ground want hide. That reality happened on. This ship ankle happened on this show. I'm not saying that money. Is Everything obviously principled positions. Come with everything we do in life somehow some way you gotta make choices every day but I'll be damned. If I show up to work every day out of the goodness and kindness Mahar trying gotta get paid apologizes after no party. I'll put the work I'll make it happen. I'll do what I can to bring value and equity to this to this monstrous behemoth notice. ESPN and Walt Disney. I'll do all of that. I have my hands out to get paid to. It ain't for free if that's the real world while we acted like any different with these these kids everybody don't get to be sane be good enough in Basketball Duke and Kentucky and Kansas and so in North Carolina and so on and so forth they come talk to me really good enough to be Alabama Clemson Georgia and football boy even Lsu Lsu. Come talk to me if you tag good. That's why you ain't getting compensated the way somebody else might be compensated. It'd be real this baby and every damn body acting like we're baby and went in fact what we're trying to do who is keep all the money for our own coffers. Instead of spreading the wealth around gluttony is one of the seven since very few people are better at it than NCWA finally record up to you now. You have to do a little bit more sharing. Get the hell over. It does go. This is market dollar endorsement deals and stuff like that be happy. California has unlocked in making sure their schools in their state need to compensate state the players the student athletes directly and oh by the way when I say compensation of talking about football and basketball if you're playing volleyball volleyball three happy which damn scholarship. It's not a revenue generator if wrestling be happy with the Damn Scholarship..

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on TalkRadio 1370AM

TalkRadio 1370AM

02:18 min | 2 years ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on TalkRadio 1370AM

"That's right i budget committee meeting you kill each other i was like a bull in china shop with their budget thing 'cause i after going to class we got now you're fired up for me the toughest part was really the him you know being convicted and and understanding this is all about stewardship that was what that's what financial peace really did for us and and and being able while you're going through this process of trying to get out of debt to say to yourself by gotta take ten percent off the top and and give that back to the church that would logically that didn't make sense and how are we going to do this and still that and and so that was really tough and and those conversations were tough but as far as the fights go i mean i'll be honest with you they still happen talk about but they're not fight now of course of course corrections because you're three hundred and forty seven thousand dollars lighter than you are sixteen months ago man so that tithing thing and budgeting thing works nice like before when we first started we had to like each paycheck we had the allocate and we had like down to the penny and now we i don't worry like we just pay our bills at the beginning of the month and then i know that there's not going to be any big purchases coming through without knowing about it and i also know for the little things the money's there lowers before it was not lava artist jonathan shannon and julia spartanburg south carolina we got a copy of chris hogan's retards barred book for you the next chapter for you to be millionaires and outrageously generous all right three hundred and forty seven thousand paid off in sixteen months selling a two hundred seventy eight thousand dollar rental making one hundred to one seventy five down to one sixty count it down let's a debt free scream three two one dwelled on you guys.

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

Chapo Trap House

01:44 min | 3 years ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

"The west some you in the city we were talking about this before the election and we will do to to it a little bit on our uk preelection show that we did with jonathan shannon but i remember talking to you about it that if this had gone another way it would have been really fuck in hard but he would have been really hard to keep going you know or or to make the case that we have been making with regards to electoral politics in western democracies yeah this is gonna be so so excited about this is a is a proof of concept of what we've been saying since trump as well if you get people you know of vision of a world where their lives are better than they are now and you identify the actual malefactors make their lives shitty in the present moment instead of going off on scapegoats you could actually engaged people regardless of their circumstances or whatever their tribal affiliation czar and and motivate amendments specifically motivate people who would otherwise vote yep a tap into that which is like the most fertile ground in terms of of a future electoral prospects and this was really the chance to see that theory brought out and i was and if bucking worked it fucking were even though the entirety of the british press they all said that he was a a nightmare ira sympathizing dipped shit editon fighting matter it didn't work at all were able to bring out people devoted otherwise would never bring a young people seventy two percent now because the media classes so cynical they literally underestimate people all the time every time they say.

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

Chapo Trap House

02:14 min | 3 years ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on Chapo Trap House

"So there you go right we're gonna kill your da we're going to kill your i just want to say one thing of the end here i have plenty of reason to be incredibly pessimistic about this coming election we live in the hell world we all need to remember that we live in a just a just a endless nightmare well where are the worst thing you can imagine happening will happen sooner rather than later so what the likelihood of this being a crushing disappointment is very high but if we were to apply the bill mitchell electoral analysis rubric to the british election there's no question the corbyn his winning because remember it was bill mitchell who said polls don't matter what you should look at a social media engagement and crowd size and by those metrics corbett is crushing it and by god if if bill mitchell is our task then why can't he be our our uh whatever the what's the british tunnels are dap user da da da i dunno i never said that and we're gonna on it and we're gonna hold you detention and threatened to kill him as as they do under theresa may's new security laws but despite what matt said last questions you jonathan yet is depployed gonna do it is he about to do it you know i i should say here is here we here we're later we so yeah that's a that's all i've got it were putting this out tonight elections on thursday you know what anything can happen maybe something good can happen you know once in history for wants to such a change you know just as a change of pace if nothing else jonathan shannon of the guardian thank you so much for filling ascend on all everything all events across the pond it's my pleasure my lord's natural might this government is wrong is contrained civic grounds this is the way grain and placement land now it's the color of the flocking baby c weather matt it looks like a name iq dog shaped tapie.

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"jonathan shannon" Discussed on KROQ 106.7FM

KROQ 106.7FM

01:56 min | 3 years ago

"jonathan shannon" Discussed on KROQ 106.7FM

"On his 25th anniversary well the 25th anniversary was the impetus to kind of look at it um we were approached by the producers of the of the film simon chin and jonathan shannon a um had had set up the film at national geographic in asked us if you know we'd be interested in the arctic kind of cold together some the archive ole but it was in looking at that footage that we decided we are going to make the film entirely with our cable sources so we there's no interviews there's no voice over and we called through thousands of hours of footage to piece together we really now the intention of the film is to put you back in that place in time and hopefully make you think about that but also what is happening in it works really well but h how did you make the decision to not have interviews or voice over i think there's a lot of reasons i think first and foremost is if we can remove the filter of some kind of de constructing the events and almost creating an analysis of them that way it it it creates a more immersive experience for the audience for like a better terms it brings as events to life and you we give the audience the benefit out of wrestling with those ideas wrestling with race wrestling with class wrestling with inequities an injustice and then you can kind of create those connections on your own and the fact that you're able to understand the narrative in a whole different way grown it's not being told to you ray your literally they're going holy crap all of this i was telling you guys before we went on a monopoly native i was way too young when this happened fame and as a as this job bathroom here live agree to disagree i realized wow i was way too white and wait to living in the suburbs to grasp what was happening to essentially my city so watching this it was like i was watching everything for the first time.

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