12 Episode results for "Jonathan Blake"

Why is the Queen involved in Brexit?

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

07:47 min | 1 year ago

Why is the Queen involved in Brexit?

"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by indeed. Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist qualified candidates using an online dashboard and get started today and indeed dot com slash marketplace. That's indeed dot com slash marketplace and by the michigan economic development corporation evan lyle rush enterprises is a big fan of michigan as he put it. The future mobility is going to be decided right here in this state visit planet dot com to find out why that's p. He l. a. n. E. t. m. dot com confused about brexit or here to shed some light live from london. This is the marketplace morning report from the b._b._c. world service. I'm victoria tori craig good morning historically. It's big ben we're used to hearing outside parliament <hes> but as the brexit clock ticks down this sound has become more common those are protesters who last night took to the streets as tensions rise across the u._k. That's after the queen approved government request to suspend parliament from early september to october fourteenth just two weeks before brexit. It's a move that's been met with opposition support and confusion so to get a grasp of what exactly is going on. We went to the source home here for westminster abbey and how does the parliament. I've come a few steps away from the westminster a tube station which stands in the shadow of the houses of parliament. I'm with the b._b._c.'s jonathan blake good morning first of all why did queen elizabeth have to get involved in this process as the monarch. It is her government and any decision. The government takes have to have the queen's approval. So what does this suspension enough parliament mean for the brexit process. Does it make a no deal more likely well. It doesn't actually make too much of a difference to what was going to be happening here at westminster because m._p.'s were going to be on a break during september so there was very little time available to m._p.'s to try to stop the government taking the u._k. Ounce of the e._u. Without a deal you there is now even less time. We've seen reaction in the financial markets just yesterday when this decision to suspend parliament was announced the pound fell about a percent percent and we've heard a lot from business groups in the last two years warning about the economic impact of a no deal. Is anyone in that building behind you in parliament. Are they listening to the business inscription. Oh i think they are on the government side. They would absolutely make the case that the uncertainty that businesses have raised concerns about is one reason why the brexit procession be delayed any further others in the opposition parties who <hes> set against leaving without a deal they say well businesses can't have the uncertainty and deal deal with the economic impact that they say would follow from leaving the e._u. Without dale and that's why we need a better deal and we need to stay longer to negotiate that so aside from brexit what other issues maybe are getting pushed to the back-burner during this suspension. This is one reason why the government wants to have a queen speech as it's called which which is where they set out the legislative agenda. The new prime minister in the new government haven't yet had chance to put forward their plans in detail for the things they want to do great explainer shedding a little bit more light on this brexit process jonathan blake. Thank you so much you okay. Let's do the numbers. Italy's benchmark is up. Nearly two percent after the prime prime minister accepted the task of forming a new government. Meanwhile global stocks have studied tesla's c._e._o. Elon musk and alibaba founder jack ma kicked off the world artificial intelligence eligible conference in shanghai today the b._b._c. stephen ryan has more on stage. The two leaders debated whether computers will take over the world but the broader focus of the conference in china also centered around a education and policy google launched its first african research center in ghana many believed the content like behind though when it comes to to technology jobs for anthem runs the company that wants to get kids interested in science technology engineering and math if students right from the beginning are not interested instead in stem then obviously going to get into computer engineering. You're going to get into all of them. You have to offer. He says bringing up the younger generation will help your tech giant's to africa a next frontier on the b._b._c. Stephen ryan for marketplace roughly a third of all international tourists visit a park or garden at least once during a trip to the u._k. In twenty seventeen that added three and a half billion dollars to the country's economy but climate change is taking its toll on the garden capital of the world. I set out to find how the horticulture industry is adapting. Take a stroll through lush green spaces bursting with vibrant colors and it's not hard to see why preserving beauty and balancing the ever changing climate is top of mind. We're asking almost impossible for these plans nowadays. That's christopher rebel a senior gardens adviser for for english heritage a charity that maintains more than four hundred historical sites in gardens across the u._k. We're asking them to cope with different winter conditions different summer conditions funds to deal with storms and quite southern changes is very difficult to choose aplomb with match order those conditions to keep the grounds historically accurate and in tiptop shape for visitors visitors would l. and his team are thinking outside the box to replace plants incapable of thriving in the changing climate a nineteen thirty. S era rose garden at elton palace. One one of the english heritage sites is a prime example rose breeders continuing develop new an interesting varieties some with that look and feel of the nineteen thirties but with better resistance so so it's easier to choose those wants to give ourselves the best presentation for the historic environment tweaking arose variety or even scaling back the number of flowerbeds to save water resources says might not seem like dramatic changes but for those millions of tourists who visit britain's gardens each year seeing less in the gardens and extreme temperatures when they want to visit it could mean the difference between opting for a day out or a dan side when it gets houghton join goldens they are less attractive to visit and we do find a lot of our sites. The people people not wanting to come out and visit gardens. They'd rather be somewhere else. That choice could take money out of the horticulture industry which contributed more than twenty five billion dollars to total economic growth growth two years ago. Here's osman small from oxford economics. The activities of the industry equivalent to what the pharmaceuticals industry or the aerospace industry contributes to the national output and in terms of jobs <hes> there's about three hundred and seventy thousand people who engaged in some way and holds cultural activities so that's non trivial. That's not a bit part player in the economy to keep money flowing through the system and visitors coming back gardeners like mr with dell have to be laser focused not just on what plants can flourish but also so on using resources wisely riyan acutely aware of the limited resources that we face not only within our own gardens but in bringing in materials that we want to use so we're not going to spray water willy nilly and we're not going to vote for the house because we have more significant things to be taken care of while conservation efforts helped now in the next fifty years challenges may be greater for gardeners who want to keep english gardens a place visitors still want to enjoy in london. I'm victoria craig with the marketplace morning report from the b._b._c. world service. This marketplace podcast is brought to you by indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste. You need help getting your shortlist qualified candidates fast. 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18: The Secret to Breaking Through Your Fear with Jonathan Evans

Straight Up with Trent Shelton

47:27 min | 1 year ago

18: The Secret to Breaking Through Your Fear with Jonathan Evans

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Welcome to episode eighteen straight up podcast and I wanted to drop these little note to prepare you for what you're about to hear first of all the information is going to be incredible as I interview one of our closest friends as somebody who's made impact in my life and thousands of people's lives across the World Mr Jonathan Evans. You're GonNa hear language as episode fifteen or you might think it's like Oh. This is the only episode. It's the right episode. This episode was recorded about a month ago but we decided to release it now. Which is the perfect time. Enjoy it your life is about to be impacted straight out of your trench down here. Today's a special episode. Because I have a guest. One of the things that I wanted to do was like bring people that I know personally. This guy that you're about to hear from somebody that is impact in the world a major way but more importantly he's impacted my life in a major way and he's straight up just holistically straight up from you know from his dreams to his father being a husband and everything. I know about this guy. What you see on the stage are online. You know it's the same off line and I'm not into just interviewing celebrities just for Click Bait just interview them. I want to interview real people. I in my life and just kind of give a backstory a little bit before I bring them on here. We've played at Baylor together and if you read my book is you know. This guy is He was a big part of me. Starting Rehab Tom. I don't know if he knows that or not but he was a big part. Because we spent some time with the redskins and when I look back on this role like I was just talking earlier that I don't believe God brought me to the redskins football. I really believe he brought me there to interact with you as roommates because you know the conversation that we had you to rededicate my life to Christ you help me understand that I had a bigger purpose for my life. Let me doing it event at Oakland Bible Fellowship the cage event that I really didn't want to do just because I was nervous like I'm introverted person. At that time I was. T- Shelly Rapper. But you gave me the courage step on stage and from the next day I was supposed to go so arena football but after I got off stage I was like I just feel like this what I was crazy do. And that literally changed my life forever. So we'll against all of that. I want to introduce you guys to one of my closest friends. I meant to remind and just all around awesome human being my boy Jonathan Evans. What's up? Man Set me happy to beat it. I was across the world. Welcome to straight up with Trent Shelton throughout my career from the NFL to sold out stages speaking of thousands. I built up a tool kit to negative mindsets. Let go what's holding you back star rehabbing. Your life in every show is going to be jam packed with tips tricks and tools to push do for. I'm always going to be real with you and one hundred percent truth even when it's GonNa Pierce your heart. This is me shrink shelter strata row. That's big that's big. I'll say you're like the first portion of my book. I think to be mentioned. I personally strata podcast. So it's only right man like what titles man like. What titles do you? What's your titles dislike man? Okay first of all a believer. Yeah we start with it absolutely with that. That's number one A believer and then family. I always tell my kids. It's a it's a it's going to be. It's going to be family and then it's going to be responsibility and so so family man married to my wife for thirteen years now. Time go by fast. I got a win to. Let's say we got We got five kids three girls and two boys. I'll push that on you. I was GONNA say he's responsible for for Morally Imerese. You've got us. I mean around Jonathan because I don't know any baby doc. Right so you know we know we believe the net is just you know be provable. And multiply as much as you can do so that we done out of responsibility. Some responsibilities are I'm the chaplain for the Dallas Cowboys. Coach apple into the Mavericks. Men's Ministry at my Dad's Church Dr Tony Evans. Many of you may know that name And then I do. Young adults who got a young adults ministry named generate? And so that's really fun for me. And then I work at the National Ministry. To because taking my dad's national ministry is real important to me so we do a lot of a lot of different hats. Put it that way and so just working in ministry just pushing hard to do what God is calling me to. Let me ask you this question. This was like totally some. I wasn't GonNa ask but and hearing you say all that. How do you find balance because I know so many listeners? They asked me a question. Like do you even feel like balance that you can obtain are. Do you feel like you know you. Just gotTA gotta be president every moment. That's how do you balance and doing all of that well. The balance is understanding. It's understanding your passion and understanding the opportunities but also understanding how to say no no is a is a key word for me now. I can't be everything for everybody at all times. Just can't do it and if I get out of priority than I know I'm out of balance so if I'm not loving God loving my family and taking care of my primary responsibilities. Anything outside of those three is out of balance and so those are the top three priorities. When I pray over my kids every night I say Lord helped him to love God love their family and take care of their responsibilities and say number number four is fun but I don't even put that on the list because if you take care of one two and three number four is not here you go here you go so I I want people to write this down like because I'm big on that like having people see things whether it be on their phone or the billionaire. Whatever like you said if I GET OUT OF PRIORITY. I'm out of balance right at Harmon. That's I mean that's that's because every time about life is Alabama. I'm used out of priority in my life. That's right so one of the things that also connected us and you know was our mothers battling cancer and I remember you calling me. I remember it was like a year ago and I was in Puerto Rico. Actually and I remember you calling me and you hitting me up and just be honest. It hit me hard because I was in the moment like when my mom going through our battle. And she's still is and you know it's hard to even find words. People always ask them. Like how do you deal with it? I'm just like I don't really have the words outside of just giving it to God and you know your mother transition recently and I went to the service and what stood out to me. Man was like your. They're giving the eulogy and I'm just saying because you're here. I think I told you after right after like I was up there in tears but you are so strong in the message that you gave brought so much understanding for me even with losing my grandparents. Are I think any anybody listening to this podcast right? Now you're GonNa go through losses whether you're going through now you went through it. Are you going to go through it? What was your battle with it because I know with me. You know just as a man of faith my mom is like a warrior and I'm asking guy like why like. Why is she going people in the world that are terrible people in our living a blessed life which I know? They're not because our thinking man but I'm just like man. Why is my mom? Had to go through this so like Louis your journey and just how are you dealing with it and just whatever you WANNA share? Yeah well I We found out. two thousand nine hundred nine in. March we were at an event and I couldn't figure out why my dad was so sambre because we were at the in RB Convention National Religious Broadcasters. So we were there and my dad was going into the hall of fame. So we were there to watch him get inducted into the hall of fame for his broadcast and so we were wondering why he was so somber at the same time he was supposed to get inducted into the hall of fame so finally brought us all into the room to make a long story short and he said this is the hardest thing we've ever faced as a family and we were like what is when your heart starts beating fast like what are you talking. And he said your mom you know has been diagnosed with stage for kind of gall bladder cancer. Billy airy cancer and You know it's all over her adamant there's nothing they can do and when when I heard him say there's nothing they do my deck and always buying silver lining somewhere. You know he's a he's an optimist and so he said there's nothing they can do and he started crying. People started crying all over the room. We don't know how much time we have and all of those different things and I look back at my mom and my mom was just sitting there stoic. Just like watching US cry. And then she said everyone in this room sit down and we sat down and she said I understand your fears. I understand what you're going through. But you gotta understand like this is spirit warfare. This is not something that you can. You can be shocked by. I know you're shocked but understand that Jesus told us in John. Sixteen thirty three they in this world. You will have trouble. So so he's he's letting you know up front that no matter who you are. This is what this is what the experience is but be of good cheer because I have already overcoming and so I was thinking about. She's she's challenging me and she's the one who's you know dealing with the cancer and she said no one in this family is allowed to. Tuck tail and run No one in this family as well as allowed to stop. No one in this family is allowed to let any situation. Make them press the brakes. When you see these situations you press the gas. You never let the enemy win. And so when she said that I mean we were saying we were shocked but it also put a fire under us to carry on a legacy but also pray. You know for healing. You know we weren't going to give up. Their fight was was dual. It was like. We're going to pray for healing but we also gonNA keep going because my mom said keep going So we prayed for healing and and when we didn't get that in the physical realm like when she when she died. I struggle with that like I battled with God. So if you if you watch the eulogy you'll see that I'm talking about this battle year that I have with guy because I'm like you said in your word if if we come to you believing we'll receive of we. Have you know faith the size of a mustard? See we can move mountains. You know you say that we pray according to your will you hear us that you hit the heavens are arm quoting all of these scriptures that. I've read that I've learned and it seemed like those things didn't come through so I was real disappointed. I was like how can you say this? This not come through and you know when I was looking back at what my mom said she said in this world you will have trouble but be of good cheer. I have already overcome it and I learned that God was telling me no Jonathan. You don't understand my victory. I have already come through when when I sent my son. Jesus Christ I came through. I came through for past present and future. So you know there was only two options for your mom the whole time. Either she was going to be healed or she was going to be healed. Those were the two options like either. She was going to be with family or she was going to be with family either. She was going to be well taken care of or she was going to be well taken care of. There's no other options when you're in me because I've already provided the solution two thousand years ago when I put my son on the tree you know what I mean and so when I thought about that helped me understand the world that we live in. This is what it is like. You're not gonNA every player who plays on. A field has to retire suspect. There's no sport where the player doesn't retire and the players that keep having the player said when that player retires because they're used to having the player around but they have to remember that while they're game is still going to while clock is still taking on their game their life in the game their job is to put their head down and be the best they can be for the contribution of that organization until they retire to and so. I'm not allowed to think that my retirement not coming all I can do while. I'm still playing. Put My head down and play the best I can for the advancement of man. I hope you guys are like listen to that because when you were reminded me of my dad right you did up there because my father like he's the one and I don't. I don't know if I could be that one because I know people are going to look to me. Be like hey like you're you're doing it and my dad. I mean Michael just passed away two days ago and he's going to do his brother's service his debts. He's done four siblings services and when I look up there and I know it's tough but I just see my debt. I'm like how are you doing this? Like how are you in this moment of like your father and Europe? They're like serving so much and I know it hurts them. But it's like the mission that God had put in his heart in. That moment was so big that I felt like. I don't know it's just like how did you. How are you able to stand in front of thousands of people? You're probably your heart is moment of your life and be able to deliver like you delivered like I just it was just. It was just guide talking to me before I tell you that the battle I was really fighting and fussing with God like how could you let this happen in when he spoke back to me and spoken to my life through his word? Just talking about I told you you're more than a conqueror like I told you you already have Vicki like I told you already set you free. I told you that this experience that your mom was experiencing is not one of those things that's isolated to her isn't experience everyone is going to go through but understand the the silver lining or the other side of that experience like this is a this is a commencement a graduation. This is a retirement only to go to the next phase. Which is you know me perfecting the work. That have already started like when the Bible says that he will complete the work that he started like the work that he started perfecting us. You know the work that he started was changing us. The work that he started was all of those different things and now he completes it. Because when you get to the other side of of death when you get to the other side of that is that's when you get to experience the fullness of life you know what I mean and so it was really me God teaching me in that moment that this is something that not only do you have have to experience yourself but the other side of it is so much more grand than where she she when you were. You were praying for her to be somewhere this. You wouldn't rather be nice. We're holding her back so so it's just me it's just me thinking through you know. The reality of it was tough. It was hard but the victory that we have is what I had to focus on. That was the of the whole thing is like we have victory. And that's where the focus is even when it looks like you're experiencing defeat and that brings me to fear right. I think where we are right now in the world in Corona virus has gone on and I don't know where we'd be when this pocket. There's probably has released this coming Wednesday so I don't know where we're at and you see the going into you know a frenzy in our toilet paper like nothing right black and it's funny because me and we were talking about is like I get the toilet everything but like at the end of the day like you could literally clean yourself with water. The ads tell just shows you to like how we live in a selfish world. This is like everybody's like this. Oh it's about me mentality. Let me get everything for myself and so when it comes to fear like how do you? How do you deal with your? How do you process fear in? How do you get over it? Because there's so many listeners. Right now that could be going to situation where you know. Their parents might be sick or could be going situation where they have a thing they want to do with their life. But they're so afraid. You know my thing was. I was afraid to speak and I was afraid to really just step out there just being an introverted person. So like what is fear. Means to you and like. How do you overcome fear? Maybe it's the speak in order to fear of going into the unknown. How do you deal with? That was unbelievable. You know because I had that too you know when I started speaking especially being my dad son like my dad is like the Michael Jordan of preaching so your family siblings priscilla she to like being like and I'm the baby everybody do well and I'm like Okay Bill. You're here. This is not going to work but because I'm watching them. You know do it so that that made it to where I was really kind of afraid to go forward and most of the people guy us was afraid of Moses said. I can't even talk like you start looking at your deficiencies and what you're not good at when you're called and so anytime that's what fear is. Fear is seeing the purpose but only able to look through the window of your insufficiencies when you see it. You know what I mean just by yourself so you start disqualifying yourself or even if you have someone who's who sick or you start thinking about all of the things that could happen negatively because of this particular disease or because of this problem and then the feeling starts connecting perspective and so that's the way it was for me and really what it is. Is You have to learn to cause fear is actually another another version of pride because it still focused on you see. Pride is not just when you think high of yourself proud is when you think of yourself. Proud is when you are the subject of your focus. It doesn't matter whether it's up or down so when I let fear the way I feel determined the way I walk than it is a pride issue that still contributes to my fall. The pride comes before the fall. Whether it's you think highly of yourself or whether you think down of yourself what do you think bad of this situation. Where do think good or this situation if that if that stops you or stumps you from being able to push past when you really know that you're called to do something then you've let your pride or your fear. Be The determining factor of your success. Hey listen I'm GONNA be real with you. Most of us we put ourselves on the back burner. We're taking care of everything else except ourselves and then we say things. I don't have the time or money to take care of myself. Well I WANNA help you out talk space. Online therapy is the most convenient affordable way to make lasting change in your life with the support of a licensed therapist. You can sing. Your licensed therapist techs audio pitcher video messages from your phone or your computer whenever you need to entrust me. They are there to help you. Make that change that you WanNa make talk space match you with a licensed therapist based upon your needs and preferences and they find the one that is right for you. 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Am I going to mess up? And it's I and I'm just like I'm here to serve our serving can't have selfishness. You're there to serve my people. What can I give in? And so once I started getting out of myself. Focus on just going to serve my mission and giving myself permission to not be perfect and all of these things change. But you're exactly right because I think so. Many times we focus on ourselves and we let fear control US absolutely in fear. Fear controls by was guide has given us the spirit of fear of love power and discipline and so I try to focus is not that you don't have that feeling but you have to walk in spite of it. You have to walk in spite of feeling should not be the criteria of our function. And we gotta understand that are that are function cannot be dependent on our feelings because it says the heart is the most deceitful of all in his desperately sick who can understand it and so the cultural mantra of follow your heart. No it's followed the truth and make in put a leash on your heart and make your heart. You know come behind them. And so whenever you're you're able to demand that your heart or your emotions followed the truth. Then you'll still be walking rightly even though you feel wrongly. I know that's not. That's not a correct terminology. But we make you know what I'm saying and so and so that's what I've had to teach myself to do and then you realize you know when you're past that you know that's why you can't give yourself the glory that's why you can't say it was me now. You were scared like head to you had to base it on a truth an objective standard outside of you to rely on that and not rely on. You Hula. You can't give yourself glory. You know it ain't you you know what I'm saying. It was that objective standard. That truth there you say it. Lean on in spite of how I feel brought like. You're like you're really like confirming things for me right now because you know just right across the street like I said at the cage event it was that like the thing that I told my mom because we're not talking through football like I mean it was like she got silent and it was just like what are you going to do with your life protection but I realize I told her. I said I never felt so much confidence in the midst of fear in those moments like I never felt so much. Thirty in the midst of being uncertain. And it's because like you said I was. I can take the glory for that because I know me I live up like I don't know if know like are prepared like a speech to go up there and I got up there. I forgot it. Yeah okay well guy used me I live in the heart and I guess that's what really helped me these days. Like just be able to be that speak from the heart and while prepare it. I don't know it'll lock. You does not saying. Don't prepare whatever but yeah. I'm more nervous when I have notes on stage I am. It's just crazy note. I try not to like I. I'll use maybe bullet points you like. Keep me on track but if I have notes I'm just let me go back to my notes. So yeah man you know you confirming Israel. Because that's how I knew that's how I knew that this was the call in from light because I was like that wasn't me. You Know God use me up there. So Yeah Your your your study in your experiences. All of your preparation is just the foundation for your freedom. it's just a foundation for it because all of the experiences you have in your life or when you steadier you prepare a speech or try to get ready for something. You're doing that. Preparations sometimes can come out of nerves. I WanNa make sure I wanNA make sure that I'm ready but then you had those experiences that you can't even control that are in your life but all of that is to prop you up so that when you hit your purpose and passion you can be free there. You know when you talk about something you know. You don't need notes. Yeah you know what I mean when you talk about something you've experienced story you don't need notes so your story is the most impact impactful part of anything. You know what I mean in. The problem is when people don't let their story out due to fear. The problem is all of this foundation. You know that's the hardest part lay in this concrete. All of this. All of this foundation has been set up to unleash you to the world. To unleash your story to unleash your passions gets brought back down because you're concerned whether the house is GonNa stand or not and it's just like you know so a lot of people when you talk about a lot of people can't achieve because their fear even though the foundation has been set by all of their experiences their fear holds them back so they don't get to experience they leave like what's the point of going through the sands of life only look back and see that there were no footprints because because you were you were afraid that your feet will stop man. What's your instagram right now. On the moment people get our way to the end was what's your instagram's my name is Jonathan Jonathan. We're GONNA make sure to get that out because I I don't forget because I'll forget we even talking to you all right now and so just taking this man so you had a message. I just saw an instagram and actually posted about dealing with the krona virus. Right and one of the things that I want to ask you this question. I think already know the answer to but so many times we want to be in control of our lives right and I think this is a perfect example to show people that no matter how much you think during control you're not in control my goodness and so what do you feel about that. You feel like there. I know you can influence certain things in your life right not to be telling people being responsible but eh evil eye you can be in control over your life like how do you feel about that. That's interesting I feel like I can control the different aspects of of the boundaries that have been set for life like I feel like ultimately God's sovereign he says he sets the boundaries. Okay but inside of that when you talk about the virus I can control my surroundings. Yeah I can control whether I'm with the crowd or the few I mean this teaches you a lot about you know how negative it can be just associated with the crowd instead of the few because right now they're cutting down on the crowds because the crowd is where you get infected and people live their life for the crowds but the crowd is where you get infected. You know because you don't know what people are carrying that are influencing your life in a negative way so I can control those things. I can make sure I'm positive environments where the people that I'm around our healthy so that don't get infected by anything negative. I can control some of those things but ultimately back to your question. There are things in this life. A lot of this life is out of control. I mean businesses are shutting down the NBA is shutting down. All of these different things are shutting down off of something. You can't even see it's awesome that you can't even see. They came from halfway around the world. You know the shuten stuff down and so all you can do is have faith and based on that faith be as best prepared as you can be for whatever circumstances may come and so. I try to allow you know my faith to have priority and how I walk and you can't see faith means my dad said this is acting like it is so even when it's not so so that it might be so simply because God said so. Repeat that faith is acting like it is so even when it's not so so that it might be so simply because God's so It's acting like his true. Whether you feel that our weather whether you see it or not whether you totally understand it you WANNA press forward in it so I think a lot of change has come. You know based on this virus. We've made some changes in. We've made them by faith. I mean we know what people are saying. But we don't know what's going to happen to. We don't know if we touch something. If we're going to get sick all we can do is do the best. We can do based on the knowledge that we have. And that's all you can do in your sphere with your family and your sphere. Which your job and your sphere with what your kids. You do the best that you can do. And you allow your faith to take care of the rest. You know what I mean. And so that's what we have control of is to do our best and you teach that all the time you know doing the best in the in the in the circumference that you're in and the boundaries they got us set up you do your best where you're planted and you have faith there and guide can flourish anywhere else and I and I think man I mean that's perfectly put out and I think to it. We talked about this right before we came here how it is pulling back the curtain on people's lives right and bouncing difference in you know so. I mean like myself I had events counsel vents are cancelled. I mean speaking for all these people. It also exposes even to you know. Hopefully this thing you know comes and goes but definitely it exposes finances and things like that on my own. I mean if you don't have stuff saved up and it's something that you told me a long time ago the worries that you put it in but you basically say you know which you have so much money you have money you spent and that's always stuck with me. It's always douglas part of the reason. Why still dropping two thousand seven hundred and fifty thousand mile? I'll probably get a new car soon but it always stuck with me because I'm like man that's right because so much of my life growing up. You know just what I thought. Success was. I mean you used to call me bt out of the House? And he just watched a fabulous video. And that's not what you just watch the fabulous video spinners and spinners man like I mean the fake chain all that stuff man and it just like. I thought that's what success was. I thought it was having all these things and I'm glad that again after going through the NFL phase. Really prepared me for what I have now and so now I'm all into save them all into being debt free. I'm on to invest in and things like that so I know you're like that also like what did you learn from her. Dad are like definitely came from growing up. My Dad give us credit cards. And he just taught us the concept of you know Loans means it's not your money you know all of those different than so So those were things that I learned from him. But also you know just just making smart investments and things of that nature but but the key that you were talking about. Is You know living for other people will crush you always say. I'll tease impress and other people impressed. We'll go broke and that's the question I asked myself to like. I'm not emotional buyer. I don't think like emotional by off emotions like if I come back to it a week later or to even with our house right I had to like really come back to land. I really obviously a house is a is not a acid ability right. But I'm always like that Bromley Immi- getting this for me and I do this word thing. If I was the only person in this world nobody could see. Nobody can say oh. That's no violence school which is still get it in. My heart is like yeah really want this. Then I'll get it for the most part of this is something that super crazy. So there's so many people in this world. I know some of Y'all might get a little offensive in Australia. Podcast ME and truthful. The truth sometimes hurts but always helps. But it's so many people in this world going broke trying to impress other people. Yup and you know I mean not only impress other people but they spend a lot of money for something that they can't enjoy because when you are housebroke it impresses the people but you can't enjoy it. Yeah you know what I mean like and when your car broke you impress a lot of people but you sweat and trying to make sure that you get this thing done you know pay that you get to keep it or when hard times hit where banks may close or the government like this virus may have to shut things down or may have to change them some things you're stuck with notes payable based on a perception that you would like to have from people they could care less about you know you and I learned that I learned that Bro. I learned that the reality of life is so important because when we talk about my mom earlier you talk about people people leaving when I was a chaplain for the cowboys player. Death team and that was four or five years ago and you know that whole twenty seconds of silence is real like we went on the field and they said let's give this person twenty seconds of silence and then they were like all right. Let's kick the ball off because we came here to see a football game and I was like no matter what he contributed to the NFL. Until the world the best we could do is give twenty seconds of silence so you can live for people as long as you want to. But I guarantee you the best we can be able to give you about. Twenty seconds of silence and then we're going to move on and keep going about our business because the world keeps turning the world keeps turn. It doesn't matter who you are like. Nobody on this podcast. Nobody teaching his podcast me. And you is greater than Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson Colas. You'll Michael Jackson. You wack like that is music. He's the colours. Do but to be honest with you. No disrespect to him. But because I'm so busy in the world keeps turning like I haven't really thought about that ten years like every now and then when the anniversary comes around I'll start dancing the gaming about ob right now. It's not like it's fresh but not many people are still talking about Kobe. Kobe. Kobe. Like and we're we won't be as big as these guys from world impressionable standpoint like these guys are mountains as it relates his world and just know that the world keeps turning people. Keep going like now. We gotTA talk about. The Corona virus. Was News now like everything keeps going. And so if you're living for the fifteen minutes of fame or the twenty seconds of silence you're spending a whole lot of money for something that doesn't last very long. Listen it's not a daily goes by that. Somebody's in my inbox and ask me. How have much energy? What everything that I do like how you can you nutritional needs with everything that you do like? It has to be hard. It is hard until I found the cheat code so I found the secret and the secret is athletic. Greens like this is a strong word to use. But I'm I'm obsessed with Athletic Greens. There's not a day that goes by that I don't start my day off with athletic. Greens because it gives me everything that I need seventy five vitamins and minerals. I don't have to sit here and take all these pills. So listen if you're looking to boost energy strengthen your immune system our support gut health athletic. Greens is the way to go whether you're taking steps towards a healthier lifestyle or you're an athlete pushing for better performance athletic steps towards committing. To a better you take the guesswork out of everyday good health and give athletic. Greens a try go let it brings dot com slash straight up and claim a special offer. Today twenty three travel packs by the seventy nine dollars which are I purchase. That's led a green dot com slash. Straight up what's your legacy like. What are people going to really say about you as really your family really the people who are closest to you that no you the people that you impact the people that you give to the Bible says better to give the new receive because if you're taking and taking and taking then you won't be remembered for anything but what you have and I've never seen a hearse pulling a u? Haul will you have doesn't matter it doesn't matter and so it's important to long-term and when you think long term it makes you live a little bit differently. I asked him a question. I did a podcast dodger dreams and it was a wise man. I've got your the wiser. But that's all right. I just want to say anything that comes to my mind is a Wiseman Ajay and I said you know. I'm sure you could you quote this way better than me but it was about. I remember you told me and it stuck with me and I made that video with Tristan. It was like you're not only because your birthday your audio based upon your death de Right and what you do between Dash really matters and I asked him this question on. Dodger Dreams podcast. 'cause I just say so. Many people are going to die not meeting the greatest version of themselves and the question that I asked myself often and I want like your answer with this is what's going to live on once you move on. Ooh What's GONNA live on once? You're no longer here like what is going to be that thing and You know I think when you start focusing because that's what legacy is about right. It's leaving something here as I'm GonNa continue to live on and that's what honestly has helped me to lose people in my life my my grandparents my close friends when they passed away. You know even with arline you know this. He's one of the reasons why I went home for Reeb. Saw at six something from his life whether it was a struggle or whether it was some he stood for my grandmother right and I take it and I give it to the world even if people don't know that to keep them living on so like for your legacy like what is it that that you want to live mountjoy multiple things but if down to one thing it would be impact. Yeah and that's what we're here for. I mean we're here for impact you know what everybody's here for impact and everybody may want that impact to be the big stage but it doesn't have to be that like you can impact one person who impacts the world like whoever taught my grandfather what he knows and somebody came and he they witness to my granddad. You Know Tony Evans is one of his sons. Tony Evans got a radio broadcast on fourteen hundred stations. Thirteen hundred and thirty countries. Tony Evans is the first African American to write a Tony Evans. Steady Bible and Bible commentary. That's in the that's in the Bible Museum in DC right now. He's got his own display. But but but whoever that whoever those two men were that brought the Gospel to my granddad had no idea that that son that was in his house will be able to impact the world at that level. But they still get the credit. You gotta understand that the links in this chain not easily broken when you're doing things the right way but we live in a culture that's opposite it's about you know me myself and I you know what I mean and you don't build a legacy on me myself and I don't even build a legacy only on what you achieve for the greatness of yourself because remember that's only that only earns you twenty seconds of silence before the world keeps turning leaky moving so the the the way that you leave a legacy is by impacting people who impact people with the same character that you impacted them with you. Know what I'm saying. That's why we're supposed to pass on the image of God be fruitful and multiply. Wasn't for you to look for God to have lookalikes right. So I want to impact my kids to look as much like him as possible and if I give him his character that never runs out because he never stops and they keep impact and people with that legacy lives on simply because it was connected to something that was eternal not temple. And so. That's what it's about. That's what it's about you talked about that Dash. Whether you're young old is based on you know your birthday to your depth. That's the problem with people in their thirties or twenties or they eighteen or even forty. I'm still I still have time what we should be. We should be smart enough to know at this point that you cannot base Tom. Based on your birth. You can only base time based on when you're going to die since you don't know that we don't know who's young or old there may be somebody who is eighty years old has more time than you. That means he's he or she is younger than you challenge. Everybody listens right now. If you think you have time go walk around the cemetery and just go go. Look the tombstones and that's Tristan. Tristan was like this person was eleven. Exactly he was like I'm eleven exactly and I was. I Bro. I'm not trying to you know I'm trying to get this reality man like there's you know you never know and it's funny. You said that I thought about two blocks. You know I might not change the world but I was sparked the change in a lot of truth he got a Lotta man five twenty four twenty s crazy so as we wrap this up which I mean guys you see why this guy is. I mean amazing. Why he's one of my mentors one of my closest friends and he's really impacted my life and not just in that just for some flip but on a series. Now he really has and you guys know why I wanNA. I wanted to start doing this when I do interview. People are had these commerce straight up conversations. What is something in your life when everything that you do? You're a father of ninety kids right. I husband you have so many responsibilities. We talked about earlier. And I know how that is. Renowned throughout is to be the go-to person when people look to you for answers. Look to you for strength. Looks you for wisdom. What do you feel like right now is like maybe maybe maybe not right now but maybe a struggle that you dealt with recently are? Maybe you're right now that struggle that you're dealing with and how are you getting through that struggle? Because I know there's so many people listening to this right now and have struggles and I like to not diminish the greatness of a person of you but I'd like to show people like even my life like this. I know you're looking at me. Oh you have all these people on social media. You don't go through nothing. No the reason why I talk about so much that I go through so much and so I like to bring that humanity to people so they can understand. Wow like okay. This person goes through her too. So what's a struggle that you might be dealing with? And how are you getting through it if you are through? Yeah definitely especially when when people look at you my case Tony Evanston or your speaker all of these different things got a family You know I've had to learn to push past pain but not ignore it because really what happens is is you. Get into a position where you're kind of like showing base in showing strength that you really don't have in so really that authenticity just to say you know what. I really need help like I really need to talk to some people about my struggle that I'm going through about some of the doubts that I had and I've got strong faith but when you're praying for something and it doesn't happen you like man is this. Is this even real like this? Is You know so you have those thoughts and so you get with the right people who you know can guide you in the right direction and in order to be okay with accountability to work through your pain. Even though you're called to push through it you cannot be prideful like people who are prideful. One of the key ingredients of their pride is autonomy. They just WANNA be by themselves. Handle it by themselves. And they don't want anybody to know you know what they're experiencing and what they're going through but authenticity and getting that out is a key ingredient of you actually being able to get to the next step in the next level of what you're going through and so that for me has always been a challenge especially when you're a person who a lot of people look to to help them get out of their pain. Yeah exactly how you GonNa help me if you lay so so no. It's realizing that that experience and the pain that I'm going through is what qualifies me to help you and people have to realize that what you're going through like nobody goes to. What would a soup? A superhero movie would not have meaning unless there's a problem in a villain absolutely. That would be the dumbest movie you've ever seen in your life that this dude or this woman is displaying all this power. But there's no problem or villain power over right that makes them a superhero. Makes THEM A superhero? And that's what makes. That's what makes guys when Jesus Christ my hero because he's not just powerful. Isn't that just a theory of spirit and never never land? I've actually experienced him. Be My hero. But in order to be a hero I had to have a problem. And so your problems that you go through. Were actually qualify you to be the hero in somebody else's life who may be going through the same thing it actually prepares you for the ministry got has for you. Nobody wants to hear your story. There's no bloopers in it. Nobody wants to talk. You hadn't gone through anything and so was pushing past the pain but it's also dealing with it and understanding it so that you can actually be useful with man. That's hard because I feel like with me. That's one of my struggles to you. Know just being in that spot where it's like everybody comes to you. Whatever you just and people don't even know and I had a line that I actually wrote again like smiling for the camera but down behind the scenes no and is like what's the point of that you know if I'm giving all this to the world but losing myself and so like conversations therapy Having conversations being open Being honest where I'm at in my journey is like really really helped me be able to heal and be able to be like okay cool. It's all right to go through these things because with social media you filter life perfection and there's so many people that think like that. Oh if I show people that I have a problem then then they want self perfection in order for people to follow me are for people to buy my product or people look at me as a guru. That's hard to keep up with very hard to keep up with and so I'm just glad you share a lot on that man with your transparency and I'm going to take this time man to come on the straight podcast. Yeah where we going so you guys. I'm I have to tell you if I know you got some out of this definitely hit a up at Jonathan Blake Evans right on Instagram facebook. Hit him up anything that you have going on that you WANNA share. No I mean just Yes and no There's a lot going on but yeah just just follow him. You keep up with me on that. I got video blogs and we do speaking whenever we give back out there saying so all of those things everything that I do is just to impact people and y'all are a blessing to me just as much as I am new together. So it's right man. Well I appreciate you make sure you guys check him out follow him. We hear this apply. Don't just listen. 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Season Four - Introduction

Making Gay History

16:52 min | 2 years ago

Season Four - Introduction

"I'm Eric Marcus and welcome to season four of making gay history. This season is about beginnings about how the LGBTQ movement began an unfolded in the years before the stonewall uprising, and how the people who got involved in the movement priest on wall got their start. But in the spirit of beginnings. I I'd like to tell you how the making gay history project got its start in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight because my journey of discovery is something like the journey will be taking together over the next ten episodes. Or so it started with a phone call from an editor at Harper and row now HarperCollins who commissioned me to write an oral history book about what was then called the gay and lesbian civil rights movement. I was a journalist with one book under my belt about same sex couple relationships. Why knee? I asked the editor said he liked how I handled dialogue and he wanted someone fresh to the subject, I was very fresh because I knew almost nothing at least I knew where to start stonewall nineteen sixty nine. Everyone knew the movement began there on a hot summer night when the New York City police raided a gay bar in Greenwich. Village and queer people fought back or so I thought before I began my research before I port overbooks public records old magazines and telephone directories defined the early troublemakers who started the movement before I crisscrossed the country to interview people who had gotten together in secret in tiny groups as far back as the nineteen fifties before I heard firsthand from people who dare to dream about a fair tomorrow in the nineteen forties. And as I found those threads stretching back through history. I learned that there were some threads that stretch back much farther than the US in the mid twentieth century threads that stretched across the Atlantic to Germany back as far as the nineteenth century by this point in the project. I was so overwhelmed by what I was finding that. I thought I'd made a terrible mistake and taking it on. How can I even begin to tell all these stories how could I weave together the history of a movement that had for so long gone undocumented a history that wasn't considered a legitimate part of the American story. What saving in the end was. Setting that. There was no way. I could tell the whole story. I'd have to use bits and pieces of our history. Told by the people I interviewed together, their individual stories would give people at least a sense of how that hidden history unfolded over the decades, and I took as my guiding principle some words from Lytton Strachey. He was a founding member of the Bloomsbury group in England in the first half of the twentieth. Century anti was gay in the preface to his groundbreaking book eminent Victorians, he wrote the direct method of a scrupulous narration that the explorer of the poff can hope to depict that singular e-p-o-c-h if he is wife. He will adopt a subtler strategy. He will attack his subject in unexpected places. He will fall upon the flank or the rear he will shoot a sudden revealing searchlight into obscure recesses, he the two undefined. People row out over that great ocean of material and lower down into it here. A little bucket. Which will bring up to the light of day some characteristics. Specimen from those far debts to be examined with a careful curiosity. So that's what I did with careful curiosity. I dipped my bucket into the ocean of our history clipping on a microphone and pressing record in dozens of living rooms and kitchens on front porches. And in a porn theater in San Francisco to listen to the people who changed the world and made possible the life. I've lived as a gay man, and in my little bucket or on those tapes were fragments of our history, the stories of our beginnings, and it's those stories and fragments of sharing with you in the episodes to come which will take us from Germany in the late nineteenth century to the eve of stonewall in nineteen sixty nine. So we're going to start with Dr Magnus Hirschfeld a pioneering six and founded the world's first LGBTQ rights organization in Berlin in eighteen ninety seven and his doctor dogma Herzog, a professor of the history of sexuality tells us he was courageous two nations and way ahead of his time. It's not like he's just there for homosexual meal rights. He's there for the bearded lady. He's there for the, you know, cross dresser. He's there for the intersex person. He's there for the little ladies has been lesbian lovers for forever. You know, he's like he loves them. All Hirschfeld's legacy, laid the groundwork for the earliest gay rights activists in the US from short-lived group called the scientific humanitarian committee, which was founded by Henry Gerber in Chicago in nineteen twenty four to the Mattachine society. Founded twenty six years later in Los Angeles by Harry, hey, and a handful of others, the founders of the. Mattachine took inspiration from Gerber and Hirschfeld an added their organizing skills from their days as coming us in. Harry Hays words, everyone was arrested. Then they built a highly secretive and quietly radical group that sounds timid now, but the first steps are often the hardest to take especially when the people you're fighting for our despised and largely hidden minority. We are filled have always been up until the twentieth century. We have been seen as of laws, and the point is if you will take this law, and even though we burn we don't do all these take the law. Anyway, what other bull would you take to your you are a danger to the stick because you deliberately take a law breaker recant afford to have you dissed Harry hay. And the other managing founders weren't the only ones organizing back then have you ever heard of the knights of the clock chances? Are you having a nice? Neither head I until nineteen eighty nine when one of its founders door leg told me about an organization he founded with the enigmatic merchant bird, an African American man who had a vision he said to me I have been thinking about an ordinary. Describe. It racial. Both male and female couples. And that was what it was about. Would you be interested? I certainly would. I thought if something different. But is the movement started to take shape there were those who couldn't fit in no matter how hard they tried stellar rush came out in one thousand nine hundred forty eight in Los Angeles, also known by her pen name sten- Russell. She was a writer who contributed to the earliest gay publications one magazine and the ladder, but she didn't always feel welcome. Sounded to me like the Butch imitated the man and the fem imitated the way we think feminine women should be with their man. And I just simply said. Exposing both. She said don't say that. Your boat. You gotta word for that. I'm both don't say that still. That's almost as bad as being bisexual Maloney new. I was that sexual Butch van. Bisexual Kaikai son of a bitch. Butch fam-. Oh, boy, you know, placed around I'd go there. Still ahead to explain Kaikai to me nine hundred eighty nine when I interviewed her. So you'll find out what it means when we hear her story in a couple of weeks. While the movement was blossoming on the west coast in the nineteen fifties over on the east coast, Barbara Giddings was finding herself and looking for her people later, she'd be called one of the mothers of the movement. But when she started out the obstacles seemed almost insurmountable at the time the movement started which was the late nineteen forties early. Fifties. We were considered sick. So the sickness label infected everything that we said and did and made it very difficult for us to have any credibility for anything. We said for ourselves we were considered sinful. So we had to start dialogue with churches, and we were considered criminal. So we had to deal with the sodomy laws and by extension with any of the laws that controlled our our lives or did not give us the freedom that we needed six and full and criminal where the three major things that we could objective problems that we had to deal with. Now, the overriding problem, I think was invisibility, but. But there were these three objectives things that at least you could get a handle on in some way, the price of visibility for almost all LGBTQ people was high in a never before heard interview. Byron Rushton who organized the March on Washington in nineteen sixty three shares how a nineteen Fifty-three arrest on a morals charge. He was found having sex with a man in a car almost cost him his place in the history of the black civil rights movement. And it also led to the United States Senator Strom Thurman denouncing him in the congressional record calling him a pervert on the Senate floor. The United States. Attack me as a draft dodger. Which was true because I was conscious objective. Me. A. A member of the young Communist League. Which was true. I had been. As a whole section. You were the original crummy pinko bag. Yeah. Bard Rushton is one of the people I wished I'd had the chance to interview, but he died a year before I started my work. So we reach beyond my archive to hear his voice and others voices of people. I didn't interview, but who had important stories to tell about the movement that interview with fired Rushton is thanks to the generosity and meticulous record keeping of buyers estate in the person of his partner. Walter Naegle who you'll also be hearing from later this season. We have Barbara getting's Kayla who's and the new York Public Library manuscripts and archives division to thank for preserving this next voice. Ernestine Ecksteen took a big risk. Allowing her photo to be published on the cover of the lesbian magazine the ladder in nineteen sixty five Ernestine was the first woman of color on the cover, and she was also in the vanguard of gay people prepared to show their faces in public in support of a cause here's Ernestine talking to Barbara getting Kayla who's in in nineteen sixty five. Officials fake we want to set them and we want as citizen his people. But this doesn't mean that all of our activity in all of our goals. Defy by other people's filthy mind. Ernestine was on some of the very first pro-gay picket lines outside the White House and in front of Philadelphia's Independence Hall in nineteen sixty five with the men dressed in suits and ties and the women in skirts and heels the carrot coordinated signs with blunt messages demanding their rights, Martha Shelley who would one day become a radical activist started out participating in those demonstrations to in one thousand nine hundred nine she shared with me, how public visibility in the sixties came with compromises that. She found hard to take if you're female you had to wear a skirt if your mail you had to wear white shirt and tie. So here we were a gay people trying to pass as normal, and I say that, you know, ironically, because that wasn't the way we really dressed, but we were trying to show that we would just as good and okay in middle class as everybody else, regardless of what we really like. The Bengal you quietly. Oh, yes. Definitely. Did. I thought it was ridiculous to go there in a skirt. But I went and did it anyway because it was something to do that might possibly have an effect. And what I remember STAN walking around in my little white blouse and skirt and tourists spending. They're eating they're ice cream cones and watching us like, you know, the zoo has opened as protests everywhere ramped up in the nineteen sixties a newly media-conscious band of activists sought out, publicity where their predecessors had hidden in secret. Dick, light, then president of the Mattachine society of New York lead. What came to be known as the sip in? It was modelled on the black civil rights lunch counter, sit ins in the south and performs for the cameras at Julius a gay bar in Greenwich Village in nineteen sixty six that's three years before stonewall. The sip was designed to challenge laws that made it illegal to knowingly serve alcohol to homosexuals. Cutthroat future gay, you know, that you're with the medicine society. You know, it's against the law to serve whole sexual. We got busted last week. We got cops the damn door. We ought to go to court, then we can't serve you. All this bardo carry on girlfriend. But the. We didn't get serve as so the press. What's his name took this pictures, and and the times to the story in the post to the story and all that? And so we got our coverage, and we're very pleased with ourselves and. It became kind of an issue. You know, like, how can you not serve food and liquor the whole sexual? So the Drake that people were talking about it and three years later, they did more than just talk about it. When queer anger erupted outside the stonewall inn and a new chapter of history began, but we're saving that for season five for now. Let's start at the beginning. I love Lytton Strachey is little bucket theory of exploring history. It really helped guide me as listen to tentatively to hundreds of hours of oral histories, and they heard an echo of stretches theory in something Barbara getting said, and it reinforced for me, why are stories matter all of them. All of our histories are lacking the little events, and the little activities that never got noted in the papers. What few there were at the time. But that really built the movement, you know, not not a mass demonstration in Washington fantastic. But before that, there were all sorts of little things that never got noticed that we're being done if it is recorded somewhere it didn't happen. And I think that's really unfortunate because I'd like to see some of it recorded. So off we go with our little bucket to dip into the stories that built a movement from the very beginning. Making history is a team effort. Thank you to executive producer sour burning him and the rest of the making gay history crew producer Josh Gwen production coordinator in d'italia, social media, producer Daniela Rinco photo editor Michael Green and our guardian angel. Geno wise Berman a special thank you to Jonathan Blake for his gorgeous recitation of Lytton Strachey guiding principle our theme music was composed by Fritz Myers. The making a history podcast is a co production of pineapple street media with assistance from the New York, library's manuscripts and archives division and one archives at the USC libraries season. Four of this podcast has been made possible with funding from the Jonathan Logan family foundation. The Ford Foundation the Kalmus foundation and our listeners, including a generous gift from Andhra and Irwin press. 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Bonus To The Bone

Bad In The Boondocks

29:39 min | 1 year ago

Bonus To The Bone

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an investigation and no one started in nineteen fourteen and he was drafted and left the house to do Quebec while he was away in July and one of the barrels in it was the body of a strangled woman smell had to be horrible couldn't you imagine so yeah police decided to search the other barrels in and his and Ian Welcome to bed in the Boondocks as always I'm one of your host staying and I'm you can really talked to them the townspeople Budapest saw him sometimes bring hall middle barrels it became a little Nagy told the military to arrest kiss right away Nagy also arrested you Quebec untold on the then when World War war awards do that every time that I try to say something World War this is accomplished complice since kiss had left her money in his will but she insisted that he that she suspicious so police decided to stop I'd talk to her's response to why he owned the barrels was to feel them with gasoline well that was not the case there was also a room in his house that Jacob was never allowed in that contained bookshelves seven barrels and then around property altogether they found twenty four dead bodies but they're still not quite short I think that he killed more than that knew nothing about it and thought that he just you know feel the barrels with some elicit liquor Ri- filled with books about strangulation and poison they're also letter sent in to him on his desk confirming that he course Ed's over the other things yes and I actually like the October actually and I like the leggings if you weren't yet there aren't there Mrs Ju- Quebec basically considered him to be a player talking to many different women by this time and offering our to her mother saying that she was going to move to America because she couldn't deal with shame of rejection by bellicose after she wrote the letter he strangled her put her body in the middle barrel didn't mail the letter each woman dumbs had went to court about him taking their money and they were never seen alive again a woman named Margaret too on it with seventy four different women these later showed that he was defrauding women he will put ads in the newspapers barrels close in your house whatever however you live you know we don't know how it's pretty it's pretty bad smell but anyways you WANNA get on into to I've got a story force today what you got Fars Oh yeah you really can't beat that piece of merchandise Brag about it to all of everybody Oh yeah notebooks you came to the house was strangled guests don't their corpses in alcohol and sealed them in the airtight metal drums police found that her own blood and then she will sink her teeth down in either like neighbors or friends and they're totally forget about it at the bodies had puncture marks on their necks and their bodies were drained of blood this led them to believe that kiss was missile services to hold anything that would be coming in to kiss in Casey had an accomplice Nagy I all the Ju- Quebec Loyd L. but that wasn't the case yeah I don't think that's again that would be a little hard unless you put a straw in get clogged raced in his bid he'll somehow Bila had been informed a police searching for him and then he just scuttled skit the war and he was also cited a lot of times within the following years many rumors started to soldier in the French Foreign Legion reported on another legionnaire named Hoffman. The name kiss had been used in some letters well he had boasted how good he was at using a Garrett and it Hoffman slash may be kiss I don't know deserted before police could ever reach him the last one what actually happened to him including that he had been imprisoned for burglary and Romania or he had died of yellow fever in Turkey in nineteen twenty the noticed smell something that is dead on the road or on the side of the road or in your front yard or you smell something hello was a patient there recovering when Nagy got there to arrest the bed Renna man he was gone and in his place was a corpse he had and bill told the townspeople that she had ran away but they could couldn't ever remember seeing them leave after he probably practicing Peresm Okay Vampirism home and they uncovered twenty four dead bodies wow that's quite you house and in the barrel so there was like kissed coming out of the New York City subways at Times Square in Manhattan there were also rumors that kiss was living in she will drink their blood so fun fact for us Oh my strange addiction so I thought that was one of your friend shut hit kisses description a garage a garage yes I'm not good at different awards I don't know but anyways yep well you know there's this woman who drinks her own blood while yeah but she got puncture the net just suck it up well technically she sort of she they would bob batting laughed so all all the sidings and speculations and stuff like that well kisses fate and exact number of victims is still spy exchanging the identities with a dead soldier name McCurry Math Cardi yeah inciting occurring in New York City in nineteen thirty two well in nineteen thirty two homicide detective him Riyaz walled was certain he had seen preferrably you know lyrics the newspaper Yeah and convinced women to send him money well two of his vic yeah I do come home with marks and you don't you say you don't know where that came from I do not know where they come from mystery and probably won't ever be found out but that is the story of Bela Kiss Bela To say that vampirism I think it is but I'm not exactly sure we're not vampires I'll literally thought that he was like the flood it's not always the humans that have the crimes committed against there are really sickos out there than ultimately I think he just sort of inserted a tube and drawing it on but why one of the laundry dryer yanked out of it and dunked into a bowl of water all of this city and working as a janitor but these could not be verified on the police went into the interview went to interview the janitor he had already huth to talk came to kiss his home in nineteen o six he forced her to write a letter letter addle yeah royal own many times speculation arose that kiss had definitely faked his death kitten named Moakley had eaten her goldfish I'll know cody condliffe later recalled that she don't do heinous things to our beloved animal friends Oh no I become talk about cats was placed in a microwave oven for ten seconds and emerged from it smoking she was then shoved into a looked at the cat and said you evil fucking bitch whereupon she placed the cat in a microwave oven for minute Oh my God with cats internal organs cooked cunliffe retrieved it from the microwave and at this point filmed on a mobile phone by two teenage boys and a middle aged man Noah people are sick bastards I know that all three were to me then we have a twenty three year old British woman named Laura condliffe she discovered that her the kitten began screeching for about ninety minutes until it died her defense lawyer claimed that she was mentally ill and had ceased available so you think he was sucking the pull it out I think that he probably he made cag- shoved into a microwave microwaved put into a drier slant put put out the dryer but it makes no sense taste for animal cruelty roxy survived that's something the how in the world I have no idea does a freaking this of his his his mom already call a hobby yeah that's all I could come up with a pair of Australian men kidnapped a Fox terrier puppy named peanut in the middle of the night poor kitty would have won in twenty ten a black and white cat snake was roxy don't judge me all right well I'm GonNa do a little short stories a short nagy got a letter from one of the doctors at a Serbian hospital well it stated that bit here's they amputated to his legs and separate his nose before they finally decapitated him old Keith John Parker drove while plastered on vodka cricket suffered scraped for a swollen taking her medication first off because the queen told her to quit while Dina how bad that would hurt our sex crimes he allegedly had a following out with peanuts female owner and tortured the dog as an act of revenge they reportedly laughed throughout the video one of the two men Jonathan Blake had previously been convicted pit bull puppy and Missouri named cricket cricket was dragged by its leash outside van as its owner forty-three-year-old in late in twenty eleven we have a female yeah no it was one of my friends while sometimes you come home with mark and you don't you claim you don't know where you got him a whatever your full now I'm not weak from blood loss but trooper survived and he was put up for adoption I don't see how these animals survive because like carve your organs are already comtrex while screech hooked in side and they're just waiting to fail you know they'll be here right and they took him to a park behind some rodeo grounds and recorded themselves slashing him with a knife and garden now and lost one of her claws Parker was sentenced to ninety three days in jail but police officer ended up adopting cricket ev even yeah I think sometimes he he may have sucked a little blood out a little or all know they didn't have any blood not it's most of them have rabies why would you want to get close to I don't now in January of twenty ten in New Zealand action of animals said they either burnt them by spraying aerosol cans on them with a lighter like a homemade flame thrower or they exploded major fainter vascular something wha wha what was the purpose of it just I don't know just this practice his leash attached to the back of a pickup truck and was dragged for nearly a mile down interstate fifty five no in interstate our David Snook was sentenced to twenty eight months in prison drunk he had gone to a former lovers house argue met not sweet the story but puppy so Q. Poor thing poor thing in oh my goodness was in two thousand and eight all yes according to a director of a local humane society he could barely sit upon his own God that would be just he was extremely aw wasn't that sweet now early in twenty twelve a male pit bull puppy in Kentucky named trooper had a furious that our cat fluffy had scratched her grab the animal shoved it into a washing machine set the water temperature at boil the railroad tracks and they had gotten a kitten they got a kitten and then basically poured gasoline all oh come on lift was jailed for fourteen weeks that's it much this next one is so sweet I can tell you animals are a lot more stronger than humans she has a human probably would have died and what newspapers were told me that story over well I don't enter over and over and then there's these the these boys basically in its own hatred I don't understand it in two thousand and five a British mother of three named Holly Thacker alleged wither grab the family kitten and ripped its head south while laughing oh my God a judge called his action and allowed it to spin for around ten minutes until it died God a veterinarian who examined Fluffy's corpse stated that Vertu as the worst case of animal cruelty ever prosecuted in Tasmania two young men pleaded guilty to hunting possums late in two thousand nine and filming themselves as a stabbed and club them to death to make matters worse and official with the Royal

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Robert Caro

Fresh Air

48:35 min | 2 years ago

Robert Caro

"This message comes from NPR sponsor MU offering premium business cards, postcards, and more all backed by award-winning service print your big ideas to life, use code fresh prints for fifteen percent off at mood dot com. Mu let's get physical from WHYY in Philadelphia. This is fresh air. I'm Davies infra Terry gross today Pulitzer prize winning journalist and biographer Robert Caro talks about digging up long, buried facts and discerning unseen, motives through countless interviews and the relentless pursuit of documents. His subjects would prefer. He not find Carol spent seven years on his book about New York powerbroker, Robert Moses and decades writing about president Lyndon Johnson. I never was interested in writing a biography of Robert Moses or Lyndon Johnson. I never had the slightest interest in writing a book just to tell the story. Great, man. I wanted to use their lives to show how political power that's what I was interested Caros new book. About his own methods is called working also Kevin Whitehead reviews, the new album by trumpeter Tom herald, which he says is inventive and easy on the years. That's coming up on fresh air. Some journalists are great at breaking news some like digging deep into their subjects for weeks or months for investigative stories. Our guest today Robert Carroll has spent decades burrowing into the lives and careers of two men who he says were masters at accumulating and wielding political power. The result has been five widely acclaimed books about how things get done in the corridors of power which have earned two Pulitzer prizes and a host of other awards Carro spent seven years writing the powerbroker about New York City insider, Robert Moses and his influence on the city, and he's written four of five planned volumes on president Lyndon. Johnson at age eighty three Caros working on the last Johnson volume about the Vietnam war, but he's also managed to write a short memoir about how he does what he does unearthing critical facts old and withered documents cleaning insights from patient and persistent interviews and writing and rewriting the story. As he finds mostly in longhand. I spoke to Carol last week about his methods and his book called working researching interviewing writing the Robert Carroll. Welcome back to fresh air. You went to Princeton. But you didn't exactly go up than an Ivy league family. Tell us a little bit your background. Well, perhaps the most salient thing about my boyhood. Is that my mother died when I was eleven but God very sick. When I was five, you know in those days, if you've got breast cancer, and it came back. There wasn't really very much. They could do for you. So I remember that a lot. My father was hit. He came from Poland. When he was a teenager. He spoke English he taught himself to read and write English by copying out hold columns from the New York Times, but his language with his friends was hitch. So the year's version of fiddler on the roof was been great for me. You got sent to. A good private school where you got into the school newspaper. You went to Princeton, and you became a newspaper reporter for Newsday. Which did a lot of serious investigative reporting in those days. Newsday was true crusading newspaper. Right. And you did that for years. Why did you decide to give up daily reporting and focus on a book about Robert Moses? Oh, you know, I was a reporter for like six years. I was an investigate became an investigative reporter. I then my interest was on politics political investigations. But you never have a chance to think when you were a reporter you running from one story to the next all of a sudden, I got an Eamon fellowship. That's year at Harvard to study the area that you're you're covering on paper. I was studying I had started to get interested in Robert Moses, that's an anecdote that's going to run a little more. Well, you know, a lot of our listeners know who Robert Moses is but some down so maybe. Give us a little fun meal. Who was this? Robert Moses held power in new who's was never elected to anything. He held power in New York state in New York City for forty four years. He had more power than any mayor more power than any governor and more power than any mayor or governor combined and think of it he held it for almost half a century. And with it he shaped New York if you were driving on a highway or a Parkway around New York City, you are driving on a road built by Robert Moses, he builds six hundred and twenty seven miles of road. He built one hundred forty eight thousand units of public housing. He reshaped the whole city by putting bulkheads out into the water the ocean Hudson river and filling a man with shale. So he he transformed the city and in doing that he accumulated power he had levers of power over people powerful people in Albany and in New York, listen to Robert Moses, you saw some of this as a reporter. And you decided you wanted to do. Well, I thought of doing a long series on Robert Moses did he got this power? I realize I didn't know where he got indicted anyone else and struck me on never do this in the context of daily journalists and a have to write a book. Right. And so you embarked on that project thinking, it would take how long. Well, we I say this way we had no saving. So I was trying to do it. While I stayed in Newsday. Couldn't couldn't get make any progress. I got a grant for a year. I said too. I know that my wife will finally get to go to France get paying me for a year, and I'll finish this knowing months. That's what my seven hours lawyers. And at the end of that year, we're out of money. I had barely started the book I knew was going to take years and years. So we sold our house on Long Island. This was before the real estate, boom, unfortunately, so we bought it for forty five thousand we sold it for seventy thousand. So we cleared twenty five thousand dollars that kind of sewage second year, and then we would just broke you got a little apartment in spite and developing in the Bronx the Bronx. Yes. And then you'd been working on this book and Li you reached out to Robert Moses, which is an enormously powerful guy. And they told you what? Well, you know over forty years numerous biographies, some of them quite famous had tried to do a started to do a biography on him. And I suppose he told them the same thing he told me I was told it by two. Public relations men who took me out to lunch and inform me across the table that he would never talk to me his family and friends would never talk to me his close. No. And then they had a phrase no-one, whoever. I don't forget the exact phrase, but the import was no one whoever wants a contract from the state or city would love to talk to you. But I kept started interviewing anyway. So I do a series of concentric circles on a piece of paper in the center. I put a dot that thought was Robert Moses, the inner circle was his family and closest friends. The next circle was close friends, but not quite as I figured he could keep those people in the first couple of circles from talking to me, but out in the outer circles are all the other people that he dealt with. He couldn't think of them all and I started interviewing them, and I don't know that this is true since it's on complementary to me, but his closest associated. Chiefs aboard and gardening sit Shapiro once said to me that he realized that someone was finally going to do a biography of him with a rewarded it or not Robert Moses, Robert Moses? Yes. And after two years his daughter suddenly calls me out of nowhere. She calls him Papa bear. And she said Papa bear will see you. So I went to have my first interview with Robert Moses, what was it like when you met him? Well, it was very dramatic. He had a cottage out at beyond Jones beach, which is the great bathing beach that he built is a little community summit community called oak. Beech. He lived he had some cottage they're very modest Conard, but he had ripped out two walls of the living room. So through the left hand wall. You saw Robert Moses causeway, the Robert Moses bridge over the fire island big big, period windows, big. Oh, yes. There was like two whole walls of glass. So you saw this long bridge. The Robert Moses bridge out the left hand window of the right hand window. You saw the column of Robert Moses state park. He sat in the corner and this huge black leather chair, Robert Moses. So when you talk to them, you're looking at Robert Moses frame by his monuments. Wow. And pussy candid. Yes. I remember I was to legislature had been opposed to Jones beach. I asked him. How how how is changed? I he said something like the following. It was eight two seven against us in assembly ways and means, but the key vote was Stevens of cataracts county and Stevens had a mortgage on his farm in the mortgage on his farm was held by the Rochester, First, National Bank, and that key to the Rochester Bank was so and so so we got Stevens vote news eight two seven on he remembered all the details. Yeah. Well, he knew all those pressure points. Remember? And yet what was he like when you challenged him? There came a point in the seventh interview, we're. He was very. I mean. Yeah. Educated me a lot. But a lot of the things that he was telling me did not comport with the facts as I was learning them from the papers of the governors mayors serve soon as I started asking him questions. I saw his eyes change and shortly thereafter. He said well that's enough for today. And I never got to see him again every time after that that I call the secretary said he was busy. And when the book was published he wrote a critique. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I you know, he was a great writer himself. He was the editor of the poetry magazine Yale. He whistle gray writer, and I remember he he used these phrases that you're not he tacked me for years, and you'd read this thing in the paper, and you say, I never think of myself. I'd say oh that poor basic, Carol. That's me in this first attack. I remember he was trying to make the point a point of doubtful. Validity a nice tells you I was a Johnny come lately environmentalist. And that he hit always been viral medalist, and he called me a seasonal Walden pond. I he had great phrases. Yeah. The book that you've just finished working as a lot of stories about how you keep at it. And you keep at it. And you find things give us one example of one of the unseen ways that Robert Moses acquired in used power, and how you found out about it. Well. For one thing. He wouldn't let me see his papers. Of course. And his papers were kept on his headquarters, Ron Randall's island there was a coward. Or with all these file cabinets in an guard at the door. I needed those papers one day, a friend of mine who's who would become the public relations and great crusading editor. And then Mary Nichols. Who would become the PR person for the parks department caused me and said I hear you doing a book on Robert Moses. And I said, that's right. And she said I hear you can't see his papers. And I said, that's right. She said, well, you know, what he forgot about carbon copies turns out that he had twelve different agencies that he was the head on and he communicated with them by carbon copies. This is the Europe before Xerox. And when he left the port one of them the parks commissionership, he forgot about the carbon copies. And she said, I know where they are not can. Get you the key. So they were stored two or three levels down underneath a seventy ninth street boat basin next to the Hudson river in Manhattan. So I went down there. It had been designed as a garage Utah garage for sanitation apart department Trump up there were no trucks parked there. I turned on the light and against the far wall was this row of thirty years of document. I think there were twenty three four drawer file cabinets. So I knew annoy for months spent going through those toil comes you're going in there with a flashlight every day. Well, I where you can turn on the light. But we used to happen with the we used to call them Parke's these little guys in the green uniform because Robert Moses was head of the party for many years. Yes. And you idolized him. He was the Commissioner. So they didn't know what exactly what we were doing there. But they knew it was something that the Commissioner would like so when. I would I would go out for anything lunch or just to go to the bathroom. We both went out. They unscrew the lightbulbs, you know, they just a couple of bare light bulbs, hang out and take them out. So we started coming to work every morning with an attache case with four light bulbs in. There's so many stories of how he would bend people to his will when he needed a vote from the legislature in Albany when he needed an appropriation when he needed a change made to the root of a road. Can you just tell us one of those stories that show how power works in ways to the public where you know, Moses when someone oppose them a public official? He put what he called his team of bloodhounds. That's his investigators went to this person. If the if they found anything about the person that was derogatory, he basically would say, you know, I'm going to leak it to the newspapers unless you go along. So I was. Examining a very mysterious thing that happened in Moses career he wanted to run this road. The cross Bronx expressway right across the heart of the Bronx, the displacing thousands of people when there was an alternate route just two blocks away that displaced almost no one. And every elected official was against him. But all of a sudden, the key official a lawyer for Demeo council, mayor Wagner, changed his mind. And wrote a letter saying Moses route was good. So when I was talking to Moses I said, what did you do? The Henry Epstein. And he said something like all we hit them with an axe. I said what do you mean? And he said I said to him near investigation they had found that he had a girlfriend. He was a married, man. But he had a girl for longtime girlfriend. He said I said to Henry you in this CHOGM of yours and Henry said, she's not my chum. And Moses said, oh, yes, Henry, she's your show more. Right. So Moses said to me, Bob, Caron. So Henry wrote his letter. Well, and so that allowed Moses to take the cross Bronx expressway through this neighborhood of east Tremont, which displaced hundreds of thousands of. People. And here's the interesting question. Why wouldn't he just take that alternate? Why didn't you do that? Because if he took the alternate route he would have had to because of a bend at the end of this mile of highway. Tear down a business that was profitable to high members of the Bronx democratic political mission. After you finish the powerbroker this book about this towering figure who exercised powers and many unseen ways. Robert Moses, you decided you wanted to write about Lyndon Johnson. Why? Well, I never was interested in writing a biography of Robert Moses or Lyndon Johnson. I never had the slightest interest in writing a book just to tell the story of a great, man. I wanted to use the law to show how political power that's what I was interested in and with Moses I came to see I didn't really under you know, I should do in a book. You are finding that you're realizing what you're doing. You don't realize I realize I'm writing a book about urban political power power and cities. I said if I ever have remember, I was broke my editor told me, no one was going to read this book. I said if I ever could do another book I'd like to do national political power, and I'd like to do it through Lyndon Johnson. Well. As it happens. I should wear my publishers in going to let me do that. Because I signed the contract in order to get enough money to do the power broker had a sewing a two book contract. And the second one is to do a biography of fear rela LaGuardia the mayor of New York, so I was starting on the LaGuardia biography. I didn't wanna do it. I figured my publisher was never gonna let me wouldn't my ender. Bob, Gottlieb, Robert Copley. He calls me up one. And he says now, Bob he says, I know you a terrible temper. We used have terrible sights. He says I want you to come in. I have something I want to talk to you about. And I want you to promise me, you won't lose your temper into life finish. And I said, okay. And he says, I I don't think he should do biography of Fierro LaGuardia here, and I have no idea who you should do a biography of and it should be a biography of Lyndon Johnson. And you should do it in volume. So we don't have to cut any of the stuff out. I own. Always felt I increased my advance by some substantial some by not saying when a great idea by saying while think about okay when I read the first volume of your series about Lyndon chant Johnson, which is passed to power. I always tell people who are are daunted by reading a book as long as you write them. Trust me, you will find this fascinating from page one. And what you begin with is the history of the hill country where Lyndon Johnson grew up. And I know from what the book you just did that a lot of people had written by Griffey's of Lyndon Johnson. And you thought this will not take a lot of effort that grounds been covered. I'll do a few interviews and get onto the other stuff that didn't work for you. Why exactly? Because when I started interviewing the people of the hill country were Lyndon Johnson grew up. I realized that I wasn't understanding them these the this was such a lonely remote isolated area of the country. I was being told about a loneliness. I'm a New York boy as you can tell from my accent. I'm sure. I didn't. I couldn't grasp this loneliness. You know, his brother once said to me that a corner. The Johnson ranch came down near what they call the Austin Fredericksburg road. It was just ungrade an unpaved graded path. And he said he and Linden would sit on that at the fence at that corner of hours hoping that one new writer or taraji would come boy. So they'd have someone new talk to these people were very on used to talking to strangers. And I knew they weren't giving me too story. Right. You wet moved to Austin right in you went and you drove out to the hill country to talk to these people. But that wasn't close enough. Yes. And I had to tell my wife, you know, I don't understand this country. These people were going to have to move there and live there for a while. I said to me why can't you do a biography of Napoleon, but we did that and for three years. We lived in the hill country. Robert Caro has written biographies of Robert Moses and Lyndon Johnson. His new book is called working after a break. He'll talk about what he learned about Lyndon Johnson by moving to the Texas hill country and about talking to LBJ's wife lady bird about Johnson's long-term relationship with another woman. Also, jazz critic Kevin Whitehead reviews, the new album by trumpeter Tom herald, which he says is inventive and easy on the ears. I'm Dave Davies meant this is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from going through it a new mail champ original podcast hosted by an Friedman. Listen as an sits down with guests such as Rebecca tracer, Soledad O'Brien semi knows rats and Hillary Clinton to hear about the pivotal moments in their lives careers and relationships when they had to decide whether to quit or keep going subscribe and listen on itunes or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe and listen on items or wherever you get your podcasts. We're talking. With Pulitzer prize winning author Robert Caro about writing his groundbreaking biographies of New York powerbroker, Robert Moses and president Lyndon Johnson. He has a new book explaining his craft called working when we left off careless talking about researching Johnson's early life. He said to get Johnson's, friends and associates to tell him the real story he and his wife moved to the Texas hill country for three years. Give me a sense of what you heard that was different by being there long enough to get acclimated and to have people get acclimated to you. Get a Lyndon Johnson had been portrayed in the seven previous books as sort of Horatio, Alger hero or the hill country. This popular charismatic guy that everybody loved and he was popular guy at college. And he became the congressman. I I was realizing that they, you know, I'd say I tell the people in anecdote a story one of these stories and they'd say well something like well. That's not quite what happened, but they wouldn't they were sold. Laconic? They wouldn't tell me what had happened and. There was a turning point for me. The following thing happened. I have been interviewing his brother same Houston. Johnson. And shame Houston Johnson. There was a lot of braggadocio and bravado, and basically untruthful nece in in what his stories and I had gotten disgusted with interviewing him. And I decided I'm not going to use anything. He told me, and I'm not going to spend any more time on this. So I'm working with other people all of a sudden I hear he's have this terrible operation for cancer, and he stopped drinking and one day. I'm walking around Johnson city and the Sam Houston coming towards me. And he's wit limping one leg is shorter than the other. He's using a cane now, and I took him for a Cup of coffee in the cafe there. And the guy sitting next to me all of a sudden was a quiet. Introspective go I decided to try to interview again by this time, I knew the key to Linden Johnson's youth was this childhood has conflict with his father. So I thought of a way to make him. Remember, exactly more more accurately what had happened. I got the National Park Service to agree that I could take them into the Johnson boyhood home after the tourists will go on we went in. And I sat down at the table in the same at the dining table. He's a plank table on one side Linden's with at the top was his father and the bottom his mother, his three sisters sat on one side and Linden and Sam Houston Johnson sat on the other. And I said to him now saying, and I remember I didn't sit at the table. I didn't want anything in his sight that wouldn't remind is way would so I sat behind them. And I. Said repeat those Adila time conversation with a father. He started yelling back and forth lending or a failure. Always be a failure. What a you that your bus inspector? That's what you are. And he was shouting back and forth. And I thought he was now in the more. I said now Sam eastern I want you to tell me again, we'll those wonderful anecdotes, those wonderful stories that you whenever you know, else told about you brother for all these years only just give me some more details, and there was a pause. And then Sam Houston said I can't. And I said why not and he said because they never happened. And then he started without any other prompting to give a completely different picture of Linden Johnson's youth that had never been at this time. When I went back to the other people and set and says, that's what happened and they'd give me more details and you'll learn that he wasn't an admired figure. He was a self centered guy who a lot of people found. And a lot of people found ruthless and pherson action untrustworthy nip live all of that. Right. You make the point in this book that truth takes time, if you'd relied on the other books, if you hadn't moved there, you wouldn't have gotten to that layer of depth Lyndon Johnson is a young man in congressman there. I think second full term, and you notice that in this correspondence, he's like the new guy and doesn't expect auto spectrum than anybody else. And then there's a point where suddenly he's being treated like a man of influence, and you want to know why how did you use the documents to figure out your your you? You're a good reader. Well, the change occurs in one thousand nine hundred forty you can tell from the correspondence all of a sudden people are asking for a few minutes of his time. Although he's a young congressman. So I asked an old Washington fixer named Tommy the CoR Corcoran what happened. He used to call the kit. See he says mom. Funny kid money. But he says you're never going to be able to write about a kid. I said why not he said because Lyndon Johnson never put anything in writing. And I for a long time through that was true. And I'm going through all these boxes, you know. And all of a sudden in the middle of a whole box of innocuous papers. There is at the he did put something in writing. He put two things in writing. There's a telegram from George Brown, Brown and root who is secret, but you financial backers saying Linden the checks her on the away told the thirteenth nineteen forty. They owned a huge construction company, huge construction company, and he was getting them used contracts from the federal government and Linden says, thanks, George. I won't I won't acknowledge this. But he had his knowledge that in writing and the six names of the people were there. So I cross check into the and in cross-checking in the middle of this unrestrained where people had just shoved letters in. The time. There's the most amazing document. It's about six pages long. It's a list now, his two of us assistance. Join Connolly and wolf to Jenkins both told me they talked to list. I don't know which one did it. But it was dramatic in the left hand column. Tight was the name of the congressman in the center of the page was what how much money he wanted tiny amounts by four hundred and fifty dollars s round that advertising six hundred dollars for poll watches cheating us at the polls. Lynn, but in the left hand margin in Linden Johnson's handwriting. He had written next rename if he was giving the guy as much money as he is for this money from Texas. He wrote, okay if he was giving part of it he wrote. Okay. And the amount he was giving. Okay. Three hundred or okay five hundred. But by some of the names, he wrote none. And by some of the names, he wrote none out and I asked to on Connelly. What did none? Out mean Connolly says head can remember his tone? He was never going to get anything from Lyndon. Johnson Lyndon Johnson never forgot an inevitable. Forget so Johnson is a political genius. He's gotten this money from Texas. And he's giving it out. That's the first source of his power. So we got this young congressman who gets this. He gives a bunch of federal tax payer funded contracts to a big contractor. They in turn recruit contributions from other. These big wheels in Texas. Yes Johnson Controls that to help other members of congress in their reelection. Who now oh him favors? Exact use power to accrue, power, exactly. Everybody today writes on a computer you actually your early drafts writing longhand. Yes. Even though you do have a typewriter use a typewriter, but you your first after long, and then my the restaurant a typewriter. I don't use a computer cable, why longhand and not the typewriter beginning, surely when you were a daily newspaper reporter, you type o of closed at the typewriter, of course, bullets be situation. He's very good questions that ideal within workings. I'll tell you it is because of something that was said to me at Princeton by an professor very courtly gentleman, southern gentleman who is my creative writing teacher every two weeks outta hand in short story. I was in his course for two years for two years, he gave me high marks. But I always did these short stories at the last minute. I mean, I remember we used to call it pulling all night. I remember because I I would always start at the last minute and just type because I could write very fast at all last session. He hands back by short story with the usual any complements me. And as I'm getting up to go. He says, but you know, Mr. KIRO you will never achieve what you want to achieve unless you stop thinking with your fingers. You know, I say in working did you ever realize that someone has seen right through you? He I realized he had seen right through me, all alone. He knew that I wasn't putting any sort into these. I was just writing because writing was so easy for me. So when I was a newspaper man, I was really fist rewrite, man. But when I quit to do a book, and I began to realize how complex the story of Robert Moses was I said, I must make myself think things all the way through and the slowest way of committing your thoughts to paper is by writing in hand. So I write three or four or more something. I write a lot of graphs in hand. Then I go to my typewriter. And that's how I ride our guest is Robert Carroll. His new book about his life working is called working researching interviewing writing we'll talk some more after a short break. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from mayo clinic when you need a level of medical expertise. You haven't found anywhere else. When you're looking for advice you and your family can trust. When you want support from people who can give you the certainty you need, you know, where to go mayoclinic, find out more. At mayo clinic dot org slash answers, summer movie season is here and pop culture. Happy hour has you covered for a guide through the blockbusters, you know, about and the surprise bright spots. You might not we'll tell you what we are looking forward to over secretly reading. And what might seek of on? Listen, Friday, and subscribe. This is fresh air. And we're speaking with Pulitzer prize winning journalist and biographer Robert Caro, he has a new book about his process of working. It's called working researching interviewing writing. You talk about interviewing people again. And again, and again, which I think most reporters don't, you know, you you do it once, and then you move on give us an example of how persistence like that made a difference? Well, let's say you're trying. To you would never there with Lyndon. Johnson was never there. And I want to give a picture of what he was like in the Oval Office. What what was he physically what was happening? So his chief domestic adviser. It was a man named Joseph Califano he's been immense. Help to me. He's been so patient and unstinting with this time, but he used to get so angry at me. I had a lot of use. I would say so Joe if I was standing there in the Oval Office with your what would I see? And he said, what do you mean? I say something like what do you mean? Would y see I told you he was sitting at the desk get up and walk around. So I tell you again will when he got up and walked around. What would you see, you know, I told you that already worked up on? What do you expect me to say I kept asking he would get he would get angry. And then when he said, well, you know, he'd go over to the Lyndon Johnson was so interested in. The news that he had three wire service tip is the Associated Press United Press orients installed in the Oval Office on three tickets there. And he said what he was always. So Colorado says well, he was he always go over to those tickets like he couldn't wait to see onto the I say, no if I saw him go over to the tickets, Joe, what would I see Bob I told you he went over to the tickets. What do you expect? He read the tickets. I said Joe, what would I see? And then he suddenly said, you know, what? Bob, I forgot her. Sometimes he would get so impatient. To see what the reporters were writing that. He'd bend over the ticker and take the paper in both hands as if he wanted to pull it out fast from the, you know, details like that help you understand the personality of intensity of the the intensity the right word intensity of the guy. Right, right. You. Also right about interviewing Linden Johnson's wife, lady bird. Yes. And having to bring up the most delicate subject, I mean, the he had extramarital affairs. One of them was meaningful loss Alice glass, you you asked her in which you couldn't bear to look at her. Yes. You know, I wasn't going to go into Lyndon Johnson sexual affairs, again, a lot of affairs. But none of them seem to have any impact or significance for the way. He ran for his professional life. They didn't seem to mean much to him. But all of a sudden, I discovered there was one of fair that he had for a long time perhaps twenty five years, I think the sexual part ended in two or three years, but she was valuable to him because he relied on her political advice, and no one had ever heard of her name was Alice more Alice glass, and then how smart? So I went to the small town that she came from an learned about her and one day, a mutual friend, a friend who lived in the small town called Morlin, Texas, you know, no-one would go to mall and unless they wanted to it's in the little town in the middle of nowhere. No, one would have gone there unless they wanted to know learn about Alice quiz one day, this friend of mine calls up and from Orlen and says bird in Texas. Everyone calls lady bird bird knows you've been tomorrow, and Bob so she knows you know, about Alice. So I said, well, I can't do anything about that. So the next interview I had with her the secretary says I had been interviewing her and Austin in her office secretary says she'd like MRs Johnson would like to see you out at the ranch the Saturday. So I went out. So you summoned you for this. Yes. Oh, so she sits at the head of the table. And I'm sitting at her right hand, my stenographer's notebook. Right. Take notice to my. The right hand. So I'm looking down at the stenographer's notebook. Which is pictured means I'm looking away from her. And without a word of preamble. She starts telling me about Alice glass, and how important her influence was in Linden's life. And you know, she talks about how elegant how beautiful and elegant. She was she says something like it's quotes in the book. I remember her in a succession of lovely dresses in me, and less lovely. She says, you know, everything Alice told him he had long when he comes to congress. She she meets him when he's in new congressmen and his arms, very long on gain -ly. She says making advantage of that by wearing always French cuffs with beautiful cufflinks, and you did that for the rest of his life. And there are times in his life where she saved his political career one in particular, Marsha Alice Marced, but she's talking about this lady bird and during the. Whole time. She's talking to me I can't bear to look up at her. I just sit there writing out. So she speaks admiringly of this woman who probably had an affair with her husband. You know? And it's interesting because you spent so much time talking to Linden Johnson's little brother Sam Houston Johnson. And wanting to get the real story from him we prepare to just leave it there with lady bird. I mean, not ask about the pain that might have caused. Let's say I didn't ask any questions that interview. It's the only interview to elect can remember where I didn't ask any questions. And in fact, I couldn't bigger to look up at the person. I was interview. And so you didn't feel like that was something you just needed to get to the bottom of well from my point of view. I had gotten to the bottom of it. Because I had seen could document how she sit for a number of times in which she saved his political career. You know, he relied on her during the war. He's an Australia. You were lack it's nineteen forty to one of the Texas senators has died he has to decide whether to run for another term in the house of representatives with run for the Senate. He's allowed one telephone call. He doesn't call White House. Franklin Roosevelt has told them you can always call him. He calls. I didn't know this. I came across this telegram in the files, we're out, it's sewing Alice. I had no idea who Alice was the telegram says Linden everyone else, which means the White House. I found out everyone else thinks you should run for the Senate. I think you should run for the house again he runs for the house again at a number of two points turning points in his career. It's her advice that he he relies on. I didn't really. You want to go into what you asked me about. I I wasn't gonna ask lady bird about the pain. Of course, did she appreciate the biographies that you wrote in the end or I understand. She hated him put on wall. So I'm not sure who I site was too good. Maybe I'm not sure from various things she said, I was never quite sure that she felt she actually was in relying what staff people told her about you're working on the last piece of the Lyndon Johnson series. It's about the Vietnam war years won't ask you how far into it. You are. It's going to take as long as it's going to take your eighty three. I know you gotta ask this a lot. Are you worried about finishing it? Well, I don't think about not finishing. You might hear the clock ticking. But you can't let that rush. I'm trying not to rush this book. I'm trying to do it the same way. I did the other books because what would be the point if I did different way. Robert. Carol. It's been fun. Thanks so much. Good. Luck will look forward to the last volume. Thanks for a great into great questions. Fact, Robert Caro's books include the power broker about Robert Moses and four volumes of his biography of president Lyndon Johnson. He's working on the fifth, but has taken time to write a short memoir about his research and writing methods called working coming up jazz critic, Kevin Whitehead reviews, the new album by trumpeter. Tom harrell. This is fresh air support for this podcast and the following message. Come from each rate with all the jargon investing can feel like a foreign language. Each raid makes investing simple by providing personalized support and guidance in terms you can understand they let you get started in the market with as little as five hundred dollars. 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One Night in Miami + Judas & the Black Messiah

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One Night in Miami + Judas & the Black Messiah

"Welcome to the knicks where we talk about puff culture until we can't stand it anymore and lean exit. I'm justin heart tongue. And i'm fanny darling as always a quick warning. There might be spoilers for anything. We talk on this podcast but we always do our best to late. Knew that they're coming this episode. We are reviewing two films about important periods of history with Serious award buzz judas in the black messiah and one night in miami as always a fleet to rate and review us on podcast apple. Podcasts pudgier cheeser pod bean stitcher are cast box and wherever other such made up names a reside. 'cause i don't know what those are but i'm sure you do rate review it'd be nice the plea to rate and review is like guns. Owes thing where you know. It's how are we gonna fuck it up this day. Still true it is like green smoker like chicken flocking around the trumpets. Like i don't know what i'm saying. We fuck it up and also people don't do it so many santa clayton spot on how you doing. I'm doing okay. My brain is very full of new job information and so. I'm just very tired a lot of time but it's good new job is good right. New job is great. I really really like it. It's a tickles all my weird little things that make me happy. It's research little boxes that i'll have to be put in the same places it's meticulous things. It's super precision really like it. I made a form today. You're in the right job. i love it. Yeah good how are you doing okay. I'm just you know just hanging in there just week by week day by day but the weather it's getting a little nicer and she says her down and you know my parents are vaccinated and vaccinated and it's like things are feeling. I feel glimmer of hope. I don't wanna get too sucked in by that. But i'm also i'll take it where i can get it. So that's that's good. You talk about our main two movies this week. We should do that. All right As we mentioned up top we are talking about juiston the black messiah and one and one night in miami. Judas them arkansas. I think it's available. I didn't write this down. I think it's on amazon prime. We can switch that all right. This one's i judas in the black messiah is on. Hbo max and one night in miami is on practice you got you. I'd never talking about right now. We're talking about judas and the black messiah yes is keith. Stanfield and daniel columbia starring in a true story about a sort of low level chicago thief who is recruited by the fbi to infiltrate the black panthers and ends up ultimately complicit in the assassination of the black panther leader at hampton in the late sixties. It's the highest profile film yet from shock. Akin who most recently directed episodes shrill a showed that we both. I think admired and talked about on this podcast. What did you think of judas. Messiah really like dominic fischbach. Who's that again. She's the she was in the deuce she plays Fred hampton's wife. yes she is just. I love her in everything that she's in she was also in the hate you give. And she just dominic dominique. I'm not sure which but Anyway she's just always so good and so fun to watch and she made what was otherwise. I think somewhat convoluted and yet oddly. Boring film really fun to watch her. Parts The acting in this was great. I'm you know everybody was really really good. But somehow it just felt packed. When did you think so. Just said note for both these movies. I think we're going to go full spoilers. Because he's are sort of real life events Yeah so we feel less worried. About spoiling sports spoiling them spoiling them work. Yeah i kind of had the same reaction. I i watched a bunch of black panther stuff last year like those an amazing documentary. I think there's one about the panthers specifically what about friend hampton. It is a crazy story especially considering. I think how. They've been framed in so many ways. Like i pop culture machination. It's like oh they were dangerous but you know on the maybe on the right side of history and clearly they were mostly on that history and that's often dis- dangerous to people that are not on the right side history so i. I liked the way that this movie was clearly just grounded in their viewpoint. I feel like we have not seen a lot of that. I mean i feel like we should have way more movies about all of this era and all of the various characters players in this absolutely and i think the keith stanfield really i was reading the other day that he like when a little crazy making this movie like it was really hard for him to come back for making because he plays the ultimate judas like he is really betraying kind of things that really believed in. Yeah i mean as an actor. Here's where i think. The movie failed for me. A little bit is you. Don't get a sense of enough of his character of the real guy. I forget his name but history doesn't care about him that's fine but it's like you know ultimately he didn't care about him. Yeah you don't really get a sense of like This guy was and what made him tick like his. I feel like stanfield. Performance really brings out the conflicted feeling of okay. I'm a little bit intrigued violence. And i understand why it would help me as somebody who's basically resorting to shitty crimes or whatever and shaking down gangs and a fake fbi badge. But it's sort of like. I don't know the transition i feel a little letdown a screenplay of like who is this guy right. That's an interesting story. Because i understand. Why shocker kings latched onto it. It's sort of like the ultimate sort of judas story. But i don't know i just i don't know i almost rather seen more about fred hampton which i think has been really celebrated in now man ole stuff i mean i knew fred hampton was. I mean we grew up in oakland. Black panther lor is. It's taught you know it's like one of the few places where you know we had malcolm x. Elementary school we were taught. The history of you know true. Black history of of true leaders. Even though the rest of the united states wouldn't necessarily call them. That was but i was maybe my teachers to win it. But but i was tied a lot of black history blood of black panther history and in school strangely I'm glad for but Anyway so i knew. A bit about fred hampton but mostly. I knew that he had died super super young. Never got to meet his son and that he was pretty much the founder of the rainbow coalition which was we were taught that probably at the time because just jackson was was running under the rainbow coalition for president. And and but it didn't never had a feel for for who he was. You know we were given very much a feel of you know in in school. You're given malcolm x and martin luther king and martin luther king is. They're generally they generally teach you. He was the good peaceful one. Who taught us how to do things. The right way malcolm x. Said you know shoot everybody and he was a little more controversial in. Maybe you know you're kind of taught that they're two sides. One side isn't as good as the other which i don't agree with but that's very much how they were presented to me and i remember you know. It took me a long time to kind of shake that as a as a young adult to not just to do my own investigation and and figure out how i felt about malcolm x. Which is very different than what i feel like. I was taught to think about him. You know more on that for next movie do yeah exactly but i didn't. I thought that the fred hampton speeches. Which i assume are taken from history were wonderful and i would have just kind of like to see i mean i understand that the story of how he betrayed his was portrayed is a big part of his story but a i almost would have liked to seem more of of his story alone without having to be this. You know i. We know the fbi sucks. You know what i mean. We know. j. edgar hoover was terrible racist and yes. Everybody needs to know that. But you know the white guy in. Ohio isn't sorry ohio fence but they're not watching this movie anyway so it was would have been more interesting to me i think just to have it be about the tragedy of losing fred hampton than adding to try to set up this multi-layered betrayal story. You know what i mean. It's interesting like you know if you are going to like literally in the title. Posit is two characters against each other and sort of the expectations of what those roles mean. Because it's very the title tells a lot then you need to kind of like really develop that relationship more and i. I just don't think the movie did right. Yeah yeah. I didn't see them. Get super close. She you know you saw more of jesse plemmons endlich heat stanfield relationship than their growing friendship than you did of hampton and ryan stanfield. I mean well. Now i'm like that'd be fucked up but i'm like i'm assuming judas the science referring to this guy is supposed to right. Now just deployments is good good. Yeah always good yeah. It was very odd to see martin sheen in you know jan groover makeup a little freaky true. Yeah not a great movie. Am surprised has gotten snatch buzz. I feel like i'm gonna say some good things here. I think from chaka king. Who's kind of a new newish director. I thought it was beautifully. Shot especially early scenes absolutely and great moments of just like small moments of dialogue and beats in it. That i thought were great. All obviously keith. Stanfield is a genius and just sort of watching him directing him. Both of the leads are are great. They're just both very natural actors. One is you know the keith. I think a little bit more not charismatic because because they both are but he's a little bit almost more showy Gla is he's much more of a quiet actor. I've said this every time. I talk about it. He's just much more of a. I have inhabited this person. And you don't see him doing the work as much as sometimes you see other people and that's a compliment to him to but sometimes i think his performances can get lost in. Yeah i felt like else's. I think he felt the little lost and i think that's mostly on the screenplay so i agree with that. I mean when he when he had the big scenes his you know the big scene when he gets out of prison. He's doing the. I am a revolutionary. He owned that room he and that scene and the scenes where it's just him and his girlfriend were also very touching in an engaging in two actors that were quite obviously working really really well together and really liked that. Yeah and it's interesting. I feel like the movie more than a lot of other. Black panther narratives have seen sort of did try to show kind of the women sort of real way and not just in like we're holding the fort down for our daddy's whatever like it. Yeah i did appreciate that allowed. The more we can tell those stories about our obviously. Yeah i mean and they are still running the hampton. And i am so sorry. I can't remember her name and i will look it up and try and tweet it out. But but they are both running It's not black panther. But it black panthers in the name organization congo and so good on them. You know Still doing stuff. should we talk about. Miami yeah we should talk about night in miami because regina king is awesome and i love her Say that. Because i need her to like hear it and then company our friend because we just love her. I love her voice along the way she is love her acting and i even kinda like her directing. I think both of us might have a little crush on regina king. Okay anyway. She loved this movie which is a fictionalized retelling of Well one night in miami where malcolm x. and cashes clay right before he changed his name to my mohammed ali. In fact the next day he did Sam cooke and jim brown two names that have eased on the end of them for no apparent. Reason is wrong I didn't think i was gonna go my fault. It's a play based it's based on a play by cam powers and he also wrote this screenplay. So what did you think justin. So i i mean there's i don't want to frame this because it feels reductive in weird of like. Oh it's a you know compared to houston inside. We obviously theme these movies together because they are about black history very important utter told stories. But i think what this movie made me kind of think about justice blackman's i was the variety of Stories about resistance and protest and sort of how how that intersects with masculinity and how people can be sort of like soft sort of protesters and hard protesters whatever that means very loaded. But i think the movie really explored that in a fascinating way and regina king directing nece for me was why this movie did the that as well as it did serve like i am directing this movie is ultimately these four men mike. They're barely any women in the movie and yet she throws herself into understanding who these four men are not necessarily like in real life but like in our pop culture immagination of them and kind of what their intersection might have produced a certain as far as cultural change. And i just. I found that fascinating and it made me just love her even more like she's the star this movie the so it's it's beautifully filmed. It is really tight. It is based on a play but it's also doesn't feel hemmed in claustrophobic. I didn't feel that at all and that's always my number one complain about Yes i mean very early on. I texted you and said was this the play. Yeah tell yeah yeah. You're right. But i didn't feel claustrophobic. By but i could definitely tell the you could feel the entrances and the exits of the characters where the scene changes would be and again. Beautifully shot incredibly. Well acted. I talk about leslie. Juniors wig at an upset me in ways. I don't want don't want investigate too hard. However if you're going to have anybody try and be sam cook. He did a great great job. I'm thinking sam cook. Oh the last seen. Oh miami longley good and you're like oh that's absolutely so. Yeah i mean 'cause especially sam cook patsy kline told the most beautiful velvet voices ever and it's just impossible to duplicate them and i thought that leslie odom dude did a great job i thought and i need to look it up the gentleman who played malcolm x. I thought he was wonderful. So that was i've never. We've obviously seen a spike lee malcolm x. And you know eyes on the prize and various things. We've seen real footage about max i think this tribute to king's direction and maybe the play of like will definitely gonna play but it's sort of bringing out like maybe he was kind of a a nerd like we think of him as the militant. And you know like you're saying for him okay. Is sort of like soft nerve and this movie it really challenged all of that and a super interesting way and i just wanna make well and it's the only time i've really seen him be be portrayed as just as person as a somewhat gentle person as somebody with a sense of humor. You know what i mean. Instead of you know they. He talked about other things besides of course he did he was a human being. You know what i mean. But he is put in such a small bubble in our history in our popular remembrance of him. And that's not unimportant what he did but this presenting him as a person was i thought so wonderful. It made me feel lake. I dunno attached to him in a way that i never had before. You know that that oh you were a person you know and not always angry and not always trying to make a point and you know you had friends and you razz. Scream exactly his name. Is kingsley a deer tiny. It was great. And i always like eldest hodge and lance riddick. Good cast here. I loved the thing about the sports figures to which as anybody who's listening to podcasts. Knows we know less than nothing about sports unless it's hockey. In which case fanny barely has you covered. It's like it. It kind of got that sports of the in the popular imagination the fighters black culture really helped me understand that in a way in which like i don't know like i feel like often all sort of talk to african. American people are black people and sort of feel a real obedience sports that i don't get that and i think this movie release of gets it. Why media sometimes. More important for reasons that i'm understand so display any movie that makes me think about all. This stuff is like this one on. This movie is super like regina king. Yeah no. I want regina king to do everything but i don't. I don't want her to only behind the screens. Because i really want to watch acton be wonderful and that too but yeah i really. I really really enjoyed this A it you know. It didn't change my life but it changed enough of you know of my way of thinking too about some historical figures that i think. That's i think that's super worth it. And even if it wasn't transformative really made you do some thinking and i liked that a lot and it was interesting that it was just kind of this. It didn't have a big mess asset. It was asking you over the head with And was more novel okay. Should we move onto. We did what you saw. There are roundup of pop culture that we enjoyed and you probably did too or added or not. And we'll tell you you already know what puck did that. She saw there. She helped us out there. She saw a whole bunch of strawberry. Yogi's gang yeah so this is a. psa listeners. Is this all dogs all although no one strawberry yogis i mean all bugs like yogurt and dogs like sweet. They say and if your rats eat little chips of strawberry yogurt don't let your dog eating entire bag of them because it will be the you know the shining of strawberry yogurt puke in your house For about an hour and it's real real gross and she feels better now. Don't worry about her. I mean you do it again. That i almost imagined puck farthing strawberry ever. But i'm like yeah now probably only for minutes like i mean. She looks so surprised. A little bit for warn about it that it was kind of cute but the puke wasn't cute. it was cute. She had it on her little lip and it just kept coming. And coming. As i was trying to clean it up parker's trying to get her on the linoleum so at least it's not on the couch. And yeah you guys have heard more about strawberry poop and you want to. Do you want to know what i did that. You saw there because they did not see puck buick. Strawberries and i didn't take any pictures. You're welcome what you got. First thing that. I have is little bit of rumored news. That makes me excited. They say that berry is on. Hbo is filming season. Three and the writers have announced that they have already finished seasons three and four. So bring me back some berry. I need to sign. Eat some no hank in my life i am ready for this and just an you need to watch the show i will. I'm ready. thank now on hulu. I watched this kind of cheesy documentary called Onlyfans selling sexy this. I'm going to die. I'm tying just like falling down dead on the floor. On my got his carpeted but what else was a documentary. would only fans isra. Yeah point amateur porn sites break. And i don't know i'm confused most mostly reality films the if they're showing boob their reality people if they're not showing boob there you know cardi b. now cardi b. Black chana maybe cardi b. two. Yeah and Bella thorne very famously. But then they get a whole bunch of people to give them money and then they don't show any boob and then people quit was basically what. I got out of this documentary. It wasn't as interesting as i thought it was gonna be. I thought it was going to be this exploration about you know what reality. Tv stars of become an and have some big overarching commentary on life. It didn't it was about reality. Stars who show boobs for by ninety nine a month not continued to make me feel bad about humanity. There's nothing wrong with pornography. there's nothing wrong with or it's just this reality. Tv in particular made me feel bad about humanity people want lulu. I said i said at. Lowe's sorry. I didn't see it and then that's okay. I didn't put it in the notes because you shouldn't watch it would've taken we gotta help. Our viewers find maybe boobs or not. Boobs wasn't a lot of boobs in the show. The banana peel boobs on. These are my next two. Were both on net flicks. I don't i know. I talked about this book on this podcast and i believe i finished it while we were up in tahoe one time and i ranted for about a month. About how much disliked it. Because it's ending was like it had one of those like what the fuck endings the whole world would be talking about except that it didn't earn. It's what the fuck ending and you never saw it coming and it didn't set up any blocks for it. I guys if you haven't Finished behind her is a morning. You now one lucid dream to walking down a hallway. Three astra projections okay. I'm going to go into some spoiler here. And i know this is super fuzzy so really really bail out if you don't want to know because it will ruin the ending of this show and or the book this book and movie is supposed to seems like it's just gonna be psychological thriller about this girl who start sleeping with her boss and is also friends with his wife at the same time and there's gonna be tension than maybe somebody'll get murdered. Here's what happens at the end. You find out. The wife is not the wife because she was in the looney bin and she met a heroin addict guy who was also in love with her well actually in love with the relationship that she had with her husband so she taught him how to astral project and he convinced her to try and switch bodies and then when they switch bodies he killed his body while inside her body and threw his body a well so that he could be married to the husband but the husband didn't want to be with him anymore because they killed somebody and so he had to keep threatening the husband that he'd tell the husband killed the guy and so they were unhappy in their marriage and then once he meets this new woman then through all kinds of machinations. He gets her to go outside of her body. An habits the the mistress's body and then kills the other body and then he's the husband and they get married and it's the the little son you can tell that he knows that that's not his mommy and hinch. She's gonna kill him. I kinda did you just sold. Do not be in. here's the thing the show. Does it in a more fun trashy way. They do put the building blocks in their better. The lead guy has a scottish accent. So you know. I'm fine with that and it's five hours and it's kind of fun and trashy the movie gave you it. Had there was no hint that it was going anyplace supernatural or paranormal into like the last twenty pages. It was completely unearned anyway so that is behind her eyes. I watched it. I liked it better than the books. So that's saying something. I also for some reason after that thought. Oh all watch the third season of center. Even though i didn't watch the first or second season but they're all stand alone season stories. They just have a bill pullman in common as as the detective. This has matt bomer and chris messina. I'm about halfway through it. It's not good. But i will watch the end of it because again Psychological thrillers speaking of trashy psychological things. I watched the first episode of allen. V farrow and. I think this is where we start talking about things. We both did. Yeah you tell me. I you know i know a lot of the story or some of it. From reading. ronin farrell's work In his exposes of harvey weinstein But this is sort of the deep dive in the long history of woody allen and his relationships with all of his children and ends mia farrow. And it's not fun to watch. And i don't know i know that i will watch all of it but i'm not sure why because i'm not enjoying myself Do you okay. Are you done okay. So they're they're basically like read passages from allen's audio book in the to provide a counterpoint to pharaohs clearly sympathetic figure documentary and definitely run in pharaoh. So what did you think of that and is it. do you feel like it. Sort of is trying to both sides a little bit. Like i don't i don't feel like it's trying to both sides. I think that they picked the pieces that they had him read very strategically and that they're trying to make him look worse. They're trying to make him you know they're they're picking pieces that a show that he's creepy but be also show that he's just trying to justify things i died. I do not think they are both siding. I don't think they are trying to be in any way Balanced about this. It's true they don't interview anybody on his side of even family friends or like was creepy for now. I got to admit. I don't think there are both sides to this. I think is attachment to. His daughter was creepy. I believe what she says. I mean. I don't care how much he said i didn't have anything to do with these children. The man married his wife's daughter. Okay even if if she didn't see him as a stepfather. Even if you know which is bullshit she did. He's known her since she was a little kid. He took naked pictures of her when she even we will take the whole dylan thing out of it for a minute. He's naked pictures of his stepdaughter and then he married her. I mean and that's already like just like oh we're getting to that run even near sudanese like like. It's yeah it's it's upsetting it's really upsetting. I couldn't watch it. That's my re of it. Like yeah i made it three quarters of the way through and it the way that it sort of end this is important and i blame myself not wanting to sort of sit through. It is like the way that she felt loved by him. And fatherly figure it away from him and also had no yeah. Let's just sort of the slowly creeping realization young age of like. I am scared of this man. Is doting too much affection on me and hearing yeah ronin as what people watch it. Because i want him to stop getting book. Deals movie deals. And i wanted to just kind of go away in a corner and stop but it is hard to watch and i kind of know enough about the stories that i don't know why watching it. I was a series. I thought it was like like episodes. And i was like oh god can get wants us. There's going to be four episodes speaking of things. I don't know why i'm watching. That made me cry One less thing. Cbs is doing. It's a follow up to silence of the lambs with clarisse i. I don't know why i do this to myself. I i watched stuff has close. That is close to things that i love. And then i get mad because they're not paying tribute to the things i love and then i can't stop watching them because they just make me mad and then something touching happens and i cry. That's clarisse on. Cbs don't watch it. It's like if you know. Cbs made silence of the lambs which they did now. So they have the original What's her the the mom of the women live. The girl that kids gets kidnapped. She's the one returning member from a cast member from silence of the lambs and wedeman. What's her name Blair martin is the woman who's kidnapped but the the her mother the woman that you know. That was the senator or the congressman or whatever. She's the only returning cast member all. Think it's not in your notes but i also know you watched the end of the stands so i feel like you should give it of the stamp again. This is a pretty good adaptation or a pretty. Why can't i think of the word. I want Close adaptation To the book. it's a better Imagining and the nineteen nineties. The stand spending series. A odessa hats off. You did a great job as franny I like this i did. I mean this is not or shattering and and it's not going to change anybody's life but it. It was a good imagining of the stand. Alex cars guard washed away. The wounds that jamey sheridan did randall. Flagg so thank you for that. There was a slightly different ending. That i liked the that they went. Very into the franny and Stu story and changed a bit of the ending. That i thought gave the two of them. And they're ending a little more depth. And i liked that And they might have set themselves up so that they can tell some more of the story. I don't know if that's what they're doing. I don't know how i feel about that. But this is it's worth your time. It's gonna fall out of your head. But i am so attached to these characters that it was really fun to watch. Something else happened to them and they at least took the trap my least favorite a character arc in the books is the trash can man story and they his historians very very small. They condensed to the point that it almost wasn't necessary except that his part is necessary for one of the ending. Things that happens Don't yeah i. I can recommend watching it if you're a fan of horror. If you're a fan of the stand watch it quickly. Well we still have. Cbs access to yeah so much twenty-third. You gotta not lose all right to move on to things. We should both saw first of all the muppet show. It's back on disney plus all episodes. I think all maybe a couple of saying. Wow what are you thinking them up. It's back on tv. I am so happy to have them up. It's back on tv. I the one problem. I have is disney. Plus plus gives you the to skip the intro. Who does this monsters. Monsters do this who that is. That's the best part. Capriccio is getting to sing about. This is call them up at show. All those realize the and i didn't remember this. The intro changes a lot bigger and bigger bigger and bigger. But then i think they'll sort of bridges loss after the first season. There's a lot of stuff that happens. Like and changes also knew that it was the best part of the show because it grows. Its back. I'm so happy. That's all i can really say about that. What have been your favorite Episodes or moments that you've seen so far we've really only watched the first three episodes of the first season and my favorite thing is that reimb- rano is awesome. And i love you reader marino and dancing with doing the tango with the big tall that she's fighting with those great big monster. I love againsir. So he's not even really a monster. He's a frenchman ranked. He's that guy he's not the big shell through monsour. She has a conversation with the big with a big monster. But a dancing is with the big frenchman beret and recently watched west side story. God i love you read marino so so we've been watching it. Can willy nilly just jumping around. Of course dave wanted to jump straight. Julie andrews recommend that. Don't do that. But i've been leapfrogging frogging around. And the with what is causing goes first of all fawzy and bigger still characters of all muppet land ever like. They're the best characters. Fonzie is really my like buddy. Like he shares. The brain may allow fosse so much and i so i watched some of the later up says i watched that christopher reeve episode which is really funny and wonderful. I had forgotten that. Basically the show continued after the movie like the movie. Was midstream. said they they'd become really popular and the showed got really slick and smooth but it's kind of funny to see them. Grapple they get smoother as the show goes on but it's also crazy and sixty s like it's fascinating also the seed martin episode. Wow that is an earlier episode from season two. It is banana pants. I want you to watch it next week. It is basically like him cracking up the actual crew and doing things stick which is kind of weird and terrible forgotten. How strange some of their early. Steve martin stand up stuff is i mean it's not like offensive but it's like really odd and you get the cast members like the puppeteers cackling with glee. Does this bill. But then he goes into the deliverance like banjo kind of solo and it is like wildly entertaining and wonderful. It's a weird. Show it the thing that's reminding me most of all is that the muppets was mostly about just good chaotic. As andy andy. It's just so fucking chaotic and so funny and ultimately kind of kind hearted. I mean i wouldn't say necessarily but it's like a little like chaos can lead to freedom but hopefully i one last thing. Yes chaos no. The swedish chef is chaos. And you're cheating. If you're close captioning says the real words absolutely. I understand that you know that closed. Captioning is for our hearing impaired friends. And i respect that and make it happen but you could write it the way swedish chef is saying it. It's it's take some of the joke out to have it be put the chicken in the pot. No all we ever was. Tikki tikki bork bork. It's a sin this ed new show on what's new. I think it's about you cave a little bit but it's unusual. Hbo max this is russell. Tdb's doctor who and folk and a couple of about podcasts. And most recently years and years. This is a show about kids in the eighties into london. Kind of discovering themselves and dealing with aids and dealing with a phobia. It has a lot to me and has a lot of oppose vibes. it feels like british pose. What did you the show. How many have you seen so far to set. Two and a half. maybe. I don't think i made it all the way through the second episode of I really love the relationship between the friends every time one of them says to each other it does my heart wet warm and showing these friends is the is the strongest part of the show. I think And their relationships with each other and that that kind of again chaotic. time of your twenties. When you're living hovel. And trying to figure out how to get. Get a meal and never know that you're going to be a grownup have responsibilities. And that's it captures that well and yet you're also all still so in love with each other and being free that you're creating a family and it captures that very very well. I i don't know how to save this properly because it's a it's not necessarily my place and be a hard thing to phrase but a i tire of things that are period pieces that have to go. You know these right and Show all the things. We've talked about that in the past but also specifically around this time in queer stories the we have to touch these certain bases about the aids crisis and it becomes just the origin story of the plague. And it's hard to make it original. And i know there are people that still need to hear these stories but this almost weakness of all while the doctors wouldn't be telling us that if they know and i just i have seen this story so many times and it become a comes to the point where it's like you're just ringing by emotions again and i lived through the end of this wheel. We both did. And i understand that this is not completely my story to tell but this is my community as well and i. I don't know how to fix it. And i understand that. This is something that needs to continue to be talked about. Especially now in the midst of another plag- But i get i tire of the we have to touch these bases in a stories and that makes me feel like a callous asshole. You know yeah. I wonder if some of that is i. Don't i mean. I'm saying this very in my own ignorance like if the u. k. And then sort of british. Television has not grappled with it in the same battery baby. American culture has pop culture as well and that was kind of a plot point and one of the episodes. So maybe you're right. It does feel a little like oh this is like it's sort of pedantic in that way of a teaching moment of back but it's like it was fun but it came with grief and it's like you can tears my russell team. He's thing but i earlier it is like he is a little bit of the ryan murphy of egg when to me like there's always sort of like i got to sell the fun and the freedom of it with a sort of like hitting the notes of suffering and melodrama and that's maybe why to pose sort of thing came up though i think posed as much better job of a lot of this a rat. I like a lot of it. I think the actors are great. I think it's funny when you. When i i mentioned this to you and you're like oh i heard it sort of not like it's a very white sess. Cut a rep active on this and and watching it. At first. I was like there's like character. This a black woman is the best friend. Whatever and then the more you start to watch it. You're like no. I see what people are talking about now. It's like it's saying look. We're not just about this white because we have a black guy and the black best friend and i have to see the black best friend if you like is really first of all. She's in years and years. I love that actor. I think she's fantastic. But this character does heard. It's it is really like wow you are just like essentially the like black suffering sort of best friends slash at nurse slash. You know like just taking care of all these people and you have no internal like who are you. Don't understand anything about who she is. Or what your desires are or what she wants. She's just sort of in service of these other characters. So yeah the i watch more. I had problems with that. Which also neil patrick harris. I don't wanna get hate mail. I think he's perfectly fine. He's great tony thing. But i feel like this is a little bit of the a neil patrick harris of like centering white male and of gay nece in a very like i got like we've already seen that. We got that we know that story. So if you're in this to give a little star power than maybe a little bit to people. That are yeah exactly. Don't make it about you. And oh my god. There's no reason you couldn't have just made him an american. I know i know. God that accenture i. It's turned you i even knew. We didn't have the blacks and cop. I was like ooh this is so bad it hurt. Cain was like a high school production. Of what's the circle of friends where they wanted you to have the irish accent you know and it was just like every you know. Eighteen year old sixteen year olds trying to say you know i'm doing lawyer. Jesus mary joseph just allow. I appreciate your big swings. But i also think maybe better children's television sat terrible. I mean this is television children's television. Okay keys he thinks in very sort of broad to the point of childish of strokes about serve morality and sort of and meth making which is rather nice way to think about it. But maybe this is not. I've never seen queer as folk. I'm not sure. I want to only seen some of the american. No that's not true. I have. I've seen quite a bit of the british queer as folk. Now that i'm thinking about it i don't remember it. I know. I've seen it. Because i can picture charlie hunnam and aiden gillian having sex but should talk about one division point. You talk about london. Oh my god so we going to spoilers for one division. Going to spoilers is the one show us show i think. There's a little spoiler warning. We'll say one mysterious aerospace engineer Two cans seem song three Catholic hans what do you think of one of asia's we have two more episodes ago right. Yes they love this show. I love this show. I love this. Show where's i don't necessarily think that the modern family office format worked super well aside from the theme song which was dead on theme songs. Always dead on. I still enjoyed the episode and the rest of the setup. Besides the just didn't work for me. Neither one of the shows were really my favorite elizabeth. Olson's julie bowen was dead on thank you that was great Also i don't like julie bowen so it kind of felt like she was making fun of her in that made me feel good to But this show continues to be delightful and so much fun and aware that it's playing with you. it is not telling your dumb. It's not saying if you haven't figured this out. There's something wrong with you and you're doing it wrong. It saying there's something here anywhere you look. There's something for you and you can try and make it something else and if you're wrong that's okay. It's fun because we've thrown everything at you so that it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong and we're having just as much fun as you are paul cetinje and cat. Dinning are having just as much fun. As i am watching this show and i find it to be delightful. It's re watchable. I i am going to be so sad when the show. What do you think justin. I love this show too. I did not love. I think the last maybe two episodes but especially the last episode is quite as much as you did. I feel like i think talking to you about this. It feels a little like it serving two masters which is always the problem of like everybody knew this was i. Sorry splitters weird. He talked about this darkness. And i've read too much to kind of suspect that although i probably would never have guessed that had read about it. But i'm i'm kind of in between of like reading just enough but not knowing enough that i sometimes feel a little like. How would this land on somebody who knows nothing about this. I would say that you don't think about this except you. Don't you research a little you kind of know what's going on to that but that's i heard lonn rights. I don't know what that means. Like i read some about agatha harkness. And i know it just a tad about her and so i don't know what it means but i know that i've gone down the deep dive you know. I do know that. Here's something that parker found out and told me. Apparently she's in the x. men world and that's why she brought back that tro o. Since she brought the the back she brought back the x. Men quick zoom on. I don't know if she's been talked about in one of the movies or something. But she is in the movies fox. She's the x. men world yet. So i thought that was very smart when i heard it. But there's a funny. There's definitely a feeling that were like a little lawsti like conspiracy theory. I tweeted the other day. Like oh we should reprogram or d program rather cunanan people have come up with you Isn't theories it is. It's a little like oh it's indulging that conspiracy theory thing which i think is and this is me future shipping. Because that's what. I do getting ahead of disappointment for those people because things don't play out exactly they want and then also leaving maybe newbies cold and like i'm in the middle like i feel like i'm probably going to be dissatisfied with however this ends but i also kind of no that's on me and i do think it's commitment and especially with olsen's like performance is a commitment to grief and denial in a way that i said this last time like we have not seen this in any marvel movies and and the format of the show being like. This is a nine episode kind of like half hour however long like exploration of a single story is like the thing that i love about comics. So i'm so rooting for it. I think i needed to recalibrate my expectations a little bit. Yes yeah. I just think it's brilliant. I'm so happy with it. I'm going to be so sad. When i have to watch marvel bang shoot 'em up kitty punchy lasers instead of let's do something interesting in newnan and let's really you know. Oh my god please. Kevin fiji learn from this learn. How much people are loving it and and do more of this and don't he doesn't have to just tie into your next movie. Just do more of this. And i think that's all good. That's a little a little bit of what i think is like weighing on the fan base right now of like. Oh what how does this tie into everything. What spiderman going to be like. What's doctor strange. And it's like no the good parts of the shore really removed from that. And i wish they didn't have to serve two masters in that way i guess maybe then he'll see we can just do some offshoot shows that don't that we can just play with like they have off stoop books. Do that play with that. Put these characters weird you know. Take the weird off shoot books and just make them that they don't have to try and make it. You know marvel cinematic tv or whatever you know when just tell these stories. Because it's so fun. And i loved the moments of tian perish when you when she does a three point stance. And you know okay. He's she's a superhero now and it's telegraphing things very smartly and fun in that marvel way to not trying to take anything away from the movies split. I want this is so my lame. And i wanna see of this it it thrills me in the way that lovecraft country thrilled me you trying this weird wonderful thing that saying very deep things with science fiction and with paranormal and those two things can marry and it can be brilliant and i. I hope that this shows that he can play with this totals. I want more of it. Totally the line. Netflix ended the best. Would be proud of the entire series was like. Don't don't let her. Don't let them make you the bad guy wanda and she said but like what if i am or something along those lines and it's like yeah. That is better writing than anything we've had in any marvel movies so far get liking specifically said villain which was a very which which shows a wonderful because the villains in the marvel universe are so important in our so right villains and heroes and so to have her say that. What's so good. Yeah there's a lot about this. It's a good thing. I in my pop culture. This week i've been reading a shit ton of marvel limited to try and solve all these mysteries. I'm fully cunanan marvel here. I've been watching watching reading vision. The twenty fifteen series scarlet which that series of vision quest which was back in the west coast of vendors and now actually onto vision and the scarlet witch which by the way why isn't that scarlet witch vision. I mean it tells you right there. There's a lot of garbage comics all this. I don't love all that. I think they're adapted comex so it's a great little way to get clues into all of this. I will say the vision twenty fifteen contract and the scarlet witch twenty gene. Comic are actually really. They don't tell you a lot about what's going to happen in the show but they're really committed to those characters and their grief in the same way that the shows drawing from so. I'd recommend those dark as faulk which the other thing i like about the show. It was like a real Darkness to it. That i think is captured in this connex west coast avengers. Skip anything like that. It's terrible. I also watched i care a lot about this movie. No you're going to have to watch this movie and we're gonna talk about it later. This is it's on netflix. it's jonathan blake shelton. Who i don't know who that is but it's a true story new yorker article adapted into a movie starring rosamund pike. Peter dink college a bunch of people that you recognize that i would never recognize. It is rosamund. Pike plays basically this real life super villain who is basically taking over people who are dying or sick at nine sec olszyna loan and basically just going in and kind of taking over their finances and committing nam to a retirement home that she also owns a stake in. She's like a soulless monster and she kidnaps diane waste. There's the other person i'm forgetting who you wit is in this crisis sina. You're gonna thoughts about this movie. It is. I don't know i almost want to table it and talk about because i think you'll enjoy to watch like you'll enjoy watching it not some thoughts. It's interesting and yet also we'll talk but hey it's a crazy enough story that i thought it was totally made up and then i did research and i was like wow. This is a real thing. That happened The world is madness and it made me appreciate also rosamund. Pike is fucking great knit. I don't always good. She really likes to play this type of character but she's always good. She is mom. This is like a super. Is this like god role on crack. I didn't i didn't girl ever shit but she's so good. I now whatever. It's not great but everybody saw. I didn't i also shadow in the cloud. This is on video on demand. This is ''chloe grace moricz battling Gremlins and reward to japanese fighter. Planes movie is. I think this is that on twitter. It's dumb as rocks. And i loved every minute of it is so stupid i mean it starts off very interesting. It's like she's locked down in the little. What do they call the gun. Things in the bottom of planes turk deterrent. Yeah the gun. So she's like down there. Nobody takes her seriously the woman even though she has credentials although she's clearly like hiding a secret and she starts to see like enemy planes and then also a. It's not really spoilers monster in the clouds of attacking her and the plane and the first half of it is just her down in the turret. Talking to a bunch of crazy. Awful sexist pigs who don't believe in anything that she sang and are also being horribly offensive and she's just sort of like trying to deal with it and i was like. Wow this feels like a fucking crazy. Good like know film noir player something then of course the action kicks in and she's soon enough like sorry. Spoilers crawling underneath the plane like while it's flying like on the bottom of the plane and she becomes a superhero and it's really fucking stupid and the monster is so stupid so not scary. But i kind of enjoyed it. I don't know if you're ever really stupid like fun this. If we hadn't seen this in the theater as we might have been like two drinks in this is kind of god. It's really stupid. Well on greenland. I saw that on video-on-demand also this is what's his fucking bucket tom. He's the guy that used to be sort of a big deal. That's not a big deal anymore greenland. I'm looking up google. His name is gerard butler. This juror butler being. He was a big deal for second being a concerned family. Man who is busy trying to save his family from an impending impending asteroid strike. So there's a lot of prolonged like pre asteroid strikes and like the big ones coming now is released again. Really stupid kind of entertaining hate it. I think i'm in just total like teen for lucky. But i'm just like give me all of it. Like mainland the crap into my veins it feels like the real world I don't know this is a kind of a hall dark to moving on modest heroes. This is a net flicks movie It's an animated anthology kind of on a movie about people that have powers of some sorts. The only reason. I check this out. Because i saw a little short clip of of the segments online. That was amazing. This clip is. It's worth watching this. It is a guy that is sort of like if a superhero became invisible. He'd also become weightless. And just like this kind of everyday guy who's basically trying to do good and also survived but he's floated off the earth and trying to hang onto things as he does and putting himself in danger. It is sort of profound and buster. Keaton me and kind of like superheroes real this is what would like It's worth watching. If only for that segment the rest of the other two segments are totally forgettable modest euros that flex for anime superhero fans. And i have a little bit of good news okay. I like infinity trained season four. I'm excited glad you're excited. We're getting book for this. Show that i love and i even though i didn't love the third season quite as much i think there's he clearly has one more story to tell and it in a way. It's like you got to wrap this. Up is a really delightful show has the moon palace crew. Watch this at all suggested to them. I wonder what they all the you know. All of the animation stuff runs together. I don't know who's watched one. 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In 2019, Jazz Reckoned With Old Boundaries, and Marched Past Them

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In 2019, Jazz Reckoned With Old Boundaries, and Marched Past Them

"Uh to the New York Times. PODCAST is a new decade and we are your tiny bird under a big blanket amused criticism. I'm euros Junqueira. Monica uh-huh. I say it's a new decade and yet we're still slightly living in the last decade. We are here in early January but we are wrapping up our twenty nine hundred nine coverage looking back at the last twelve months jazz and maybe the last ten years and maybe the next ten years you were. Just listening to Nikki's Bob that is on the Topeka meeker record record called old new and that is the number one record of twenty nineteen. I'm on Jazz. Records between nineteen for Martin Johnson Martin's. Here what's up man Lou Walking Long Martin. I've known Martin for a long time. Haven't seen him in a long time. Martin covers jazz for Jazz Times on the wall. Street Journal Jeers here was up Geo from the page of the New York Times. Do you just come in Tan and fresh and and just just glowing. Yeah right off of vacation exactly so the talk about what's on the last twelve months and we're also gonNA talk as we really should. We should do it more than once a year to be honest but at least once a year about the bigger movements that are shaping the world of jazz so we started off with Martin's number one record. Tell me a little bit about this album. On a micro static level well and then also bigger picture was represented. Well for me. What this album represented was if you wanted to pick one record and I have other endeavors where our people know that I write about jazz? So they'll come and say what's going on in jazz if you listen to this record in wanted to know what was going on in jazz in two thousand nineteen. This would tell tell you a lot because a whole lot of things that have happened gradually over the last many decades a represented in this record. First of all the ensemble SOMBO is unusual. But it's very very life fluid. The Guitar player Mary Halvorsen. Who won a macarthur? This here is on it. Drummer are Toma Fujiuwara and the Bass player Jason Rep G. It's a phenomenal group. They've been together. Even though this is only their second record they have been playing together for six or seven years. I now and there's that level for poor and also because it's not a horn and rhythm section type situation. You have a base a cello guitar in a drummer. You have a lot of dynamic movement. Sometimes the cello and guitar out front and the Bass and drums are in their customary rhythm role. Sometimes the rhythm is created by guitar and drums. And you have bass and cello. Maybe Arco maybe not doing doing things it moves all over in terms of. Who's in the foreground? Who's in the background? And it also as such moves very very organically into group improvisations. So it's not just solo head Solo head that we come to expect from Jazz. It really reflects a lot of thought a a lot of compositional innovation that has gone on in Jazz. I mean there are group's where its head Solo in advancement of the head or something else altogether other you know and there are these kinds of things that go on in this group. I thought it was really really representative of it and I thought it represented really good presentation of a musician who has been a vital part of both New York and Chicago scenes for almost twenty years now Topeka read. I think is building toward that moment where she gets kind of within the demimondaine jazz some sort of universal recognition as a phenomenal. No player a you know for lack of a better word the genius that she is Geo this record resonate for you Humongous I completely agree with everything. Martin sang and I feel like there's that element of not in determination but just Disoriented transcendent listening that you can get into. When as you mentioned the instrumentation little unusual the roles that each instrument is being invited to play are super broadly defined? So you're listening to an album of love sound but that's about all you know right so then you just have to say okay. I buy in do what you're GONNA do. I don't have any expectations. What's is GonNa do for me? You know and and what it turns out that this record does. Is it quickens your pace it really like kind of seizes you rhythm. All through and through it's also the texture and the grain reign of the instruments. I mean it's acoustic music very very much. You hear and feel that shallow for all of its capabilities whether she's playing pizzicato whether she's playing Arco. Oh you know walking a line and then taking that walk line and making it a rhythmic. There's so many different directions you can go. What's beautiful is that it's firmly firmly ensconced in the president because you wouldn't have these rhythms necessarily exactly as they are thirty or forty years ago in American music? But there's an ancient quality to it it. I relate this a lot to the kinds of hip hop that we hear from more lo fi producers like mad Lib Roz g who he lost last year who themselves are doing a sort of ancient thing. That's very much about everything is in that James Brown way a rhythm instrument but it's also got got a texture and grain and a melody element to it may be whether it's the cello guitar or the Bass or in the case of rows g some kind of exploding ambiguous sound. That is more than just rhythm can ask a sort of naive question because I feel like this is a thing. I've thought a lot about a lot in the nineties as far as feedback loops between the jazz ecosystem and the bobby system and I feel like they were heavy for a long time. They kind of faded at least coming from my perspective which is the outsider perspective and for those core listening if you're the type of podcast listener that doesn't like to hear me talk. This is going to be a great episode for you. Are there any. Yeah there's like I got an email. There's like wine as I don't know what to say that but anyway this is your episode. a are those feedback loops. Are they stronger now. And if so are they functioning functioning differently than they did two decades ago. Well they're much stronger now. I'm not entirely sure how they are functioning differently. I think I'm not saying I don't know they are different. I mean I know that there are different but I don't know if it's that they're they're functioning the same in a completely different universe where we're at or they're functioning different you know whether both elements the timeframe and the way they function are different. I mean I do think that it's one of these things. Where if year a thirty two year old musician in nineteen ninety five the odds that you grew up listening to hip hop or not as potent? As if you're a thirteen year old musician in twenty nine hundred of course if you're even forty year old musician today hip hop has ben part of your accepted reality in much the same way that you might receive Dwayne Allman Guitar Solo Short. You will also receive Steve Pete Rock Beats and I think from a macro historical standpoint like jazz spent a Lotta time in particular eighties and nineties and early two thousands bolstering during its credentials and bolstering the systems by which it was passed on and those tended to be academic and those tended to be above board it. It was basically to make that a little bit. You know more direct. There was a lot of money and time and Ernest investment. Put into making sure that there were great. Jazz studies studies programs across the country. And they're great jazz academies across country and there were opportunities for kids to learn music things with an eye to the fifty year plan exactly and into the cultural legacy of this music and establishing that there were certain roic that had gone down in history. That wouldn't be forgotten. Wouldn't be lost at the same time time. It served to divide the music from popular culture and a lot of ways. It served to say that like okay learn these fundamentals as a text `institution music exact thing Music and released in those beautiful thing about that is that you can learn that and then you can integrate it into something a little bit more natural and a little bit more integrate itself uh-huh and that's where we're at right now. I mean there's nobody who's really making this music in a serious way and communicating with listeners. That's just satisfied to stay in the academic side. It's really tumbling all out. And together. In spotify universe where like Martin was saying the amount of access that we have is just astronomical terms of our history history recent history long history. I mean whether it's allowing lomax recording or it's a razzie record. It's all there for you as a creator and the greatest musicians are drawing from all of it speaking of someone working in the academy but also outside we talk about your number one. Go what album is that is his called diatoms ribbons by Chris Davis. Although maybe it's not Diet Diana Diet Tom. We don't we don't know we're not quite sure but you know it's one of those emails if you know so let's listen to a little bit of Corn Creek. And this is Chris Davis with Terri Lynn. Carrington and VAL Gianatti they could put yup it So jio one of the things that I was struck by listening to this record and I think this record was a little tough for me to access but the kind of I don't WanNa say collision in but the the bringing together of people who at least based on your writing about this record maybe ordinarily wouldn't be in the same room. Been in the same room. Can you tell me a little bit about these choices so Chris Davis herself is a piano player. WHO's been on the rise in New York for the last fifteen twenty years me too? I've also been the last fifteen or twenty years contrast I'm falling. I'm trust me. I'm right behind you see on the way down. So she's she's every jazz enthusiasts big curiosity right about now okay. What is her next move? And usually she's got multiple next moves She's playing on six different people's projects at once. She's got a couple of her own things going. She in the last few years started a record label. That is what she put this album amount through. She's faculty at Berkeley. She's a faculty member at Berkeley. Her qualifications are many. And I'm sure I'm leaving some off. But what matters most is that she has this distinctive but also extremely hard to pin down or define way of playing the piano that also also becomes a way of composing and it's really built around a atomic approach. Which is where I think she got the the name for the album? Where shall build little phrases? And then she'll explode them or recast them in a different key but you'll always without realizing it necessarily early be hearing some kind of motive effect over and over and over. And that's why it was so brilliant for her to work with the musician whose not often associated with the avant-garde Tailing Carrington the drummer bummer. Who has her own way of? I like to think of it as like a prison. Matic way of drumming which is like she'll be playing a funk groove but then she'll turn turn it on its side a little bit and it won't be okay. Let me play this groove until you're deeply hypnotized by it'll be like let me disrupt the hypnosis return. That's something that she gets through a long lineage but I think especially from Jack. Dj Her big mentor. And then Val Gianatti. WHO's is the turntable list on? This record brilliant Haitian sort of I guess you could call are conceptual turntable list. I mean she's really got her own approach and she uses is is samples on this record often of spoken word elements from I would. I shouldn't call it spoken word. Because it's not really poetry samples from interviews and statements from people especially Levine C. N. The composer who's on this particular track and seasonal Taylor the pianist and composer who is a big influence on. Chris Davis Piano playing particularly that kind of heavily rhythmic material style. I was talking about so it's an awesome. Blige it's funk rhythms uh-huh on both the drums and the piano kind of screwed up in messed up it's weird avant-garde playing whether that's actually done by the basis trevor done or war by the samples on the turntable. It's a lot of commingling of musicians from different worlds because the core trio's what you mentioned Carrington Tin Jonty and Davis but there's also a couple of saxophone players who don't usually play together jd. Allen Tony Mallaby. There's the oven guard guitarists nels cline line and Margarita Marco. Thank you Chad. Smith is a percussionist is here on vibraphone. Mostly think as spalding does vocals recites a beautiful garden numbers palm and it's just so many different things coming together and it's a reminder of something that I hope we can get back to later when we talk about a peace Martin recently put on his personal site about Jason. Moran's thing at the Whitney this past year. which is that jazz is an has forever ever been a music of mixing an assemblage? And that means not only that different source materials being drawn on like we were talking about before. But but also that different people get to exist in their own fullness and in communion at the same time or and that in also in in as we had spoken about previously not strictly musically to me the significance of this record and the thing that made me think a lot about this record was if this record had been done ten in years ago you would purely get the Chris referencing cease all Taylor Circa a Keesa silent tongues and the early seventies hitters this phrase. Here's this phrase again. Here's this phrase summit extracted and on in there is that but there's so much more and I I think that's a reflection of the times there's such a great ambition on Davis's part and I think it kind of it kind of plays with her dynamic flow of her discography. I mean she does this record where she's doing both a song. Duet and improvised with many different improvisers is irs. And she's still in a straight piano duet record with Craig table where they do some of his some of Hers Carlo Blais Asandra that sort of thing. Yeah it's you know. It's almost like big production. It's just trim. Now here's something more ambitious again but still in all Davis enormously important and player on the scene and again one of these people were you know. It's a far more complicated answer. What does jazz sound like? Twenty nine thousand nine hundred. Listen to Chris Davis problem is you you be running around a lot. I mean I liked you know I love this record but you know my Chris Davis moment happened hearing her as a side woman. She was in the Jonathan Blake. Group that Blew everybody away at the vanguard and she was playing Friday Saturday Sunday after David guerrillas on Tuesday went which struck me as. WHOA can? I just set up a Futon back here right and writing to me about that week at the vanguard and maybe any other last year I saw Sunday night at one the beauty of a village fan type gig or a multi night engagement is that the performances evolve set after set after set. I was there for the second can set on Sunday night and there was a moment toward the end. Where each musician sort of takes a solo command and Desmond? Douglas that basis had done his and started into this slightly Gospel leave Memphis funk thing and then it turns into Chris Davis turn and end. Everybody almost stopped because the band wanted to hear what she was going to do to and she played totally into the House and then brought it into her style and it was amazing. I love what what you said about the fact that her ambition just continues to grow and I like that this record allows us to think about personal ambition as not just a personal thing because Ashur ambition grows. She's done something really smart and I think really of the moment which is to expand your network along with ambition and to expand her interdependence her independence on other collaborators and other people with ideas as opposed to just putting it all on her shoulders. And I think that's deeply a part of the jazz ethic and as we move away from AH TEXT ORIENTED AND ACADEMY ORIENTED IDEA OF JAZZ which says here the great figures here. The great ideas have your own to you know. Study that stuff so you can be you you you it says no actually it's a huge an amorphous tumbling history of communities and collaborations and just free a yourself to depend on those around you and to depend on the tradition. And don't say you need to be the next great what you know say what did that. Ah Context of invention feel like back. Then and how can we emulate. Something is today if you look eighty ninety years ago you had. Jazz seems developing being independently in New Orleans Chicago Kansas City. That sort of thing in you have it again today. Yeah I mean part of the fun of going to the Detroit Jazz Festival or the Chicago Jazz Festival estival or what Hyde Park. Whatever you know whatever locale you go to Isn't too heater the same sort of concert. You might hear at Jazz at Lincoln Center words to hear all the local cats. Yeah because they're on their own thing. Yeah because it seems in context more than its individual figures You guys are walking me right into the Jason. Jason Moran thing you walk in just a me right into it. So marinas worked across discipline with a variety of artists. One of whom is Adrian Piper. Correct tell me about what they've done together. Anyone jump on Moran has collaborated with a number of artists Piper. Carrie May weems Karen Walker Joan Jonas. He is sought these collaborations and he's kind of illicit other people to engage in this dialogue log to Y'all know about the facebook ten right where you get tagged by somebody who wants and you're supposed to name ten albums that were meaningful for your teenager feature will Moran Plays The facebook ten by saying name ten artist are ten paintings or ten installations I've gotten tagged twice by heaven. I'm like at time for this first of all everybody gets facebook. Let's listen to. Let's listen before we get into the specifics of the exhibit. Let's listen to WHO Jason Moran with injuring by Virtue. Yeah this is a piece that he did with her. I don't know if we should call the tuner. What many years ago but feels newly relevant Adrian Piper who are self had a great retrospective show a couple years ago at the Whitney? They've been working together. She's sort of one of the couple. Conceptual Artists Joan. Jonas being the other who really unlocked for him His own relationship to conceptual art as a tunnel into jazz history jazz thinking and this particular piece is called breakdown and it's a really great great example of their collaboration. Great listen to break down barriers. Now misunderstanding the art world. The general public bring this bring out bring tension and bring down right now understanding right now Now now now now right down the right now you it so if you had the chance to be in New York or I guess in a couple of Cities Minneapolis. So Jason Moran Columbus just concluded at the Whitney Museum Exhibition that kind of engages with some. I'm the ideas that we've been talking about. Jason Moran has been around for a very long time a piano player and he has had a kind of sustained engagement with artists in other media and this exhibition thinks about music but really thinks about music and conversation and how it could be reflected through and reflected within other art forms and through other artists practices. Go can you tell me a little bit about what the room was like. Tell the people rather because I was there. Don't tell me I I saw it. They do that yes I didn't get to go to performances unfortunately but But I I dig at checkout the exhibit but can you explain for votes who didn't get to see it how it was set up and what the principal especially coming out of what we were talking about. Contexts that's really resume. Jason Yes Jason Moran as you mentioned is this pianist who is now entering into his third decade as a bandleader of no in New York still feels very very much on the cutting edge of. What's going on this exhibition? which as you mentioned traveled across the country and came to the Whitney in the fall involved three installations that he he had? I built. I think the two of the three hit I built for the Venice. Biennale a few years ago they were re-creations not quite life-sized but big enough to step into to literally of old jazz stages from New York City. There was the Savoy ballroom. There was slug saloon and there was the three deuces. All of those from different time periods. Exactly the Savoy is from the swing era in the thirties forties. Three DEUCES is from the BEBOP era which directly followed then slug saloon. It's from the Seventies. Really sort of the heyday of post BOP avant garde in New York City. But that wasn't it he also had what he would call. I think drawings that were made through a variety of means some of them were picking up the residue of his fingertips on the keyboard and created what looked looked like a David Hammons basketball. Drying they were long and thin the length of the keyboard exactly so it is quite literally the the remnants exactly and and then there were some video installations including one that lasted for. I think it was six hours and that was done with Stan. Douglas the conceptual artist I was in its own little room. It takes a while to explain. Maybe Martin can explain it for us a little later but it was sort of a rendering of what miles house Davis live evil sessions. I think we're like that can seventies but then turned into their own experience. The bottom line is just. The Jason Moran is putting Jazz has into conversation in a bolder and bigger way then. Many people have done before with other mediums of artistic expression. But but it's not just that he's saying conceptual artist as well as a musician and I like to work across media. 'cause that's something that we can grasp now people do. But he's saying that when you you do that you get a lot more physicality your body is in this space with this present experience whether that's listening to a recording that you can then actually actually kind of see the visual element Accompanying it or whether it's okay. I'm stepping into a quote unquote sculpture. That's actually jazz. Staged that actually carries decades of history mystery within it and that can also be activated in the present moment by a band playing and you which is when you wrote about it you saw about in starting on one stage in one style stepping living off into another stage yet and adjusting the Fleischer. Yeah I mean so. That's something I should mention is that these stages weren't just idle sculptures. They were activated I by The bandwagon in a AH gallery show opening performance and then with a series of performances by other jazz band that he invited to come in and play on the stages so really what he's doing to me he is he's saying jazz. History is embodied and it's physical as much as it's able to be documented either on paper or in recordings so that has has subtly a lot of political messaging associated with it which is to say you can't just collect records and you can't just collect the memories and the histories you've also got to remember that. There was a physical and a social engagement around this music in these spaces that gave it. It's it's important near revivify. Not just the spaces is but the people who were in the spaces exactly sending the music and also absorbing the music listeners windsors or whatnot which to make a somewhat self serving leap to a piece that I wrote not for the Times but for the Atlantic. It's it's the reason what you just described is the reason why I thought of idea. Hartman's writing read a New Book Wayward Lives Beautiful Experiments which is a re-centering of basically under documented or undocumented or miss documented lives lives by young black women moving into American cities in the early part of the twentieth century. She goes into the archive in a way that Jason Moran often does when he does his little historical excursions in search of inspiration in search of information in search of his next project and idea Hartman. WHO also happen to win a macarthur grant just a a few months ago decided to use the broken histories that we have through the documents of social reformers or psychiatrists who who are misdiagnosing young black women coming to the cities and saying they're they're social pariahs essentially and she said actually? There's a huge social history that we're not even aware of here and when I saw Jason Moran Presentation at Carnegie Hall which he put together in collaboration with the operatic soprano Alicia Hall Moran his wife. It it was also an sort of an examination of the history of the great migration in the early part of the twentieth century in Middle Part of the twentieth century through uncovering and dredging up a lot. The music that was not necessarily in the Canon yet or in Carnegie Hall yet but deserve to be and so by taking that physical kind of claiming of space to Carnegie Hall and that claiming of this historical memory through music. He was saying like we need to remember that history is about all kinds of people. And it's about all kinds of assembly and it doesn't always get documented but it could you know and that's the message sure that I think if we're gonNA treat jazz as a historical artifact which often is we should remember that there was a lot of stuff that wasn't necessarily written into the first or second draft of history that we have to recover and here and here he is doing that. So Martin you also wrote about the Miranshah you wrote about it on your blog. Tell people two blocks called rotation dot wordpress dot Com so honored Asians. You were talking about one of the things that this exhibit does is this kind of. I think I don't know Whose word would smudging one? Ellsworth sponging DECA. So but but I was gonna Martin going off Martin. Yeah so Martin tell me a little bit about what you took away from the Maranto. Oh well there were two things that I took away. I mean one of them. I actually wrote in the other one Dante drugs exactly because you know. This is often why I don't blog because I'll post it then I'll keep thinking about you know five days later I'm like why did I write that. All the sauce away for free we know okay so the Moran thing was super important. I think because it invites us to think about jazz differently. And you know bringing in what I've thought about since then it's inviting us to lose. The paranoia has been for the last fifty years. Part of being. A fan of jazz is worrying whether it's going to who continue to exist. Well clearly if jazz survived what has happened in popular culture over the last fifty years and yet for one you have jazz musicians headlining stages at Coachella and Bonnaroo. You have jazz musicians. You know collaborating. With leading hip hop producers producers of our time you have jazz musicians in every phase of every academic institution bets invest in culture. It's here and it's going to be here so instead of fighting for its presence leads utilize its presence to integrate and expand manned and that's what Miranda ease expanding into conceptual visual creative arts fields. He's inviting other artists to follow through on their ambitions as well and he's inviting us as an audience to see the parallels so that yes I see I you know I see Chris. Davis has an advancement of Cecil Taylor in a way but maybe it's useful to think. How does that work relative to WHO Kurosawa in one car way all right? So here's a question that I was left with afternoon ranchos so I think you guys have alluded to this and maybe maybe not set it outright. I don't know if I'm right or wrong. But tell me that Moran is actively seeking the sorts of collaborations. He's actively going out and and saying I WANNA work with such and such conceptual artists symptoms and part of that is personal his own artistic journey but also some of that as historic one advocacy work of him wanting to help expand where jazz footprint can be taken seriously. That's the first part if I'm full of nonsense. Okay Okay you're you're wrong saving for this way. Save it for after their to work for them to. That's that's exactly how much this is him. Wanting to put jazz in in conversation with those people and how much of it is those people wanting to be in conversation with jazz so I spoke to Adrian Edwards. WHO's the brilliant curator of performance at at the Whitney who put together this show with Jason Moran and she said I noticed that all these artists Glenn Ligon Joan Jonas Jonas Adrian Piper had themselves actively sought out working with him? Okay and I wanted to know why. And she said. I finally found that. It wasn't something super distinguishable about his style or his sound or even his mentality necessarily she said it was a feeling that they wanted that he had in his work that they wanted to put into. There's I sort of. I rebelled against that because it felt too wishy washy and felt almost like a diminishing of of what Maran's doing I mean. Just call the feeling but then I realized she's talking about she's trying to basically say something too big to say he's doing so much in his work that he's able to wrap his arms around so much history and so much conviction he really has an idea of what he's trying to accomplish accomplish and it involves an ethic of collaboration that is inborn in Jazz. It involves a long historical memory. That's born in jazz. It involves the ruggedness and the contingency of improvisation it involves the relationship to time. The jazz can have that. Visual Art. Can't have so. There's all these things that he's so good at manipulating. And he's hungry for the kind of inspiration that these visual artists can give him because they're not boxed in the way that a lot of people. Oh come out of the Jazz Academy are they are quote Unquote conceptualist not to say. They're really pretentious. And up their own. You know. Ask doing their own. I think for him conceptualist means I get to just imagine I just get to like break stuff down. You know as Adrian Piper says in that piece as opposed has to following the rules worshiping the idols. He said that Adrian Piper told him once that she's always trying to dismantle dismantle the grid and I think that's a really good way to look at what he's trying to do a jazz. Oh for sure going back. Maybe ten twelve years ago if you were just to to stumble into jazz standard. One Night Where Moran and Bandwagon replaying you know they might all come out. And then and he would pull out a little MP Three player player or something. They're effect and Sir playing a whole ish broadcast of a soccer game with all the interesting vocal rhythms and excitement. That comes from sports casting. And then he'll pick a figure and riff off of it And then Nasheed weights would reform of his finger bigger and then Taurus matere with dive in with a baseline and so on and so forth and by the middle of the tune. The sport cast is gone. But here's this piece that they've more or less combusted on the spot and that was Moran's way of saying that jazz is about sound in all sound. You know it's not just US twelve bar blues or whatever just place have the same meaning in your guys mind today that it did in the that the Moran show sort of calls back to no because I think we live in the ether a lot more right through our screens. Screens are not really a place at all easy Jenny. Oh Dal AH easy easy. Yeah I mean on Instagram. Please please or you could. You could call me Budgie art fifty the years ago I I. I'm not I'm not being particularly original with that whole idea but is definitely a trend that we need to both accept and probably push push back against a little bit and I think that's Iran's point is that if we allow it to get so conceptual that it's just able to be condensed into words words or ideas so to speak. Then we're losing the physicality and that's really where the power comes. I mean bodies in motion bodies. You know in collaboration and I think it's about the people in the physicality of doing this stuff that makes plays important and that's his point. He wanted his fats waller record not to be trimming trimming defense waller. He wanted people to get up and dance. I mean when he presented Harlem Stage. There weren't seats And similarly in bringing people in the James Reese yes Europe thing was exactly about that sort of thing but yeah and two wings. The this is starting to put the entire context of twentieth century African America into into a broader picture that if not jazz is at least chaz adjacent to wings being the the show that they did it Cardi exactly. Let's transition transition a little bit Gio. You wrote a piece earlier this year talking about more mother age about two. We'd been Lamar Gay. Only Charles e were sort of pointing towards Africa refusers in that piece and feeling like an emergent nor maybe reemergence sensibility. We've been talking a lot about people who are only say not not satisfied with kind of jazz as it's been presented or historic is or whatever but I did feel in the music of the people you wrote about this kind of restlessness. This kind of I don't WanNa say discomfort but certainly moving in that direction with. Maybe what what they've been handed. And maybe wanting to push harder at the musical margins Ke told me a little bit about what made you bring rivers together. What are the kind of broader themes of the last couple of years have led us to this moment? Where that's happening? Yeah Yeah I mean that's the there's so much there He'd taken our off. It was this idea that the word jazz or the idea of jazz history is only one element yep in a much broader tumult you know and that at the same time these musicians do have certain ambitions about human power about the power of the collective of the power of memory of repatriating. Some the memories that have been suppressed and of just plain artistic expression and innovation. That goes way beyond. What's codified or circumscribed into Asia? or into even a medium all of that is essential to the work of these musicians and by that I mean I mean they're not even musicians necessarily they're poets visual artists video artists improvising instrumentalists singers. Pretty much everybody on that list is all litto polyvalent. Yeah I think the word that I was sort of struggling for a minute ago. It was like there's something fundamentally insufficient about what they had been handed right and using these tools that you're talking about to either improve upon expand upon right grow the boundaries of. What's on the table? Double the insufficiency kind of what I came away from. And here's a here's a positive way of framing that insufficiency. I had just seen more mother who I hope we can play this on this one right now. Why don't we play black flight? By more mother. A track that features saw Williams from the album she released in two twenty. Nineteen the albums called analog fluids of sonic black holes. And it ain't jazz. I mean that's obvious but it's also not any particular other genre so let's listen. Listen to 'em breaks and space ranks. Obama got the balls and I've changed with a choice freedom race. I bet. Replace Your brace no black flight gotta get away gotTa get away black flight black wings. Black lie blood. James Doug Medicare is theory. The invention of the zero mathematical compromise times carswell Israel capitalism comedies. Marsh Mountaintops Kermit schemes spouse. That habit shot for citizens the seven note seven holes seventy acidity as mythical landscapes Zik infant black capes draped in. Eternity said return to see my own self. Such an approach to the magnetism displaces in Bay Dro in the ether drop in ten seconds of Saul Williams coded language from one thousand nine hundred nine just to see the kind of long long arc that we're dealing with right now. Whereas whereas Rick Beats have been the missing link connecting the diaspora committee to its Drummer Elvin past whereas the quantities from has allowed the world mathematicians to calculate the changing distance between Rock and start spinning vinyl cross faded spun backwards then release at the same given history the different moment in time continuum trump with the back in the present or maybe the future future more mother? Yeah exactly I mean it's a continuum seem sure it seems silly but it wasn't and it's not only is not only that historical continuum. It's also what Martin alluded to in that blog. Post that he put up about Jason Moran and what we've been discussing before it's it's that flow between media and I think I felt it really strongly at the toward the beginning of this year. I had just seen more mother perform with a more jazz oriented into group. She's backed by a jazz quartet. It's called irreversible entanglements. Full disclosure a close friend of one of the musicians in it. It's got a mention it and I was in Chicago at at the Midwinter Festival. Not a jazz festival at the Art Institute of Chicago and one of the galleries had a Dude Bay Exhibition. Called night comes tenderly black black and it's photographs that I don't fully remember how he does this but they're very very very darkly black and gray tinted and their photographs photographs of places along the underground railroad route from the route. That enslaved people would use to get away to the north in the mid eighteen hundreds reds and I had this palpable feeling as if I was listening to more mother again looking at these deep dark forested images ages of basically that we're trying to convey flight the fear of having you know Hell Hounds on your trail quite literally but also so this sense that okay. This is only a way station. We're going somewhere. We're getting out and and kind of out of that darkness. You know. Post Tenor Bridge. Looks like out of the darkness. Perhaps there will be a light. And that's what my mother said to me in our interview for this Arctic was and that's the only time I use that word after a few tourism is at the end of the article quoting here. She said I'm an Afro futurist because I'm not negative about this stuff. I do believe that. Out of of all the darkness and all of the terrible stuff you know. Write my poetry about something. New is coming and it was that feeling forward momentum in the darkness of WBZ images as well as in the kind of hyper excited beats that she makes that. I felt the commonality there. Sure sure Martin did any of the musicians in this space really movie this year. They moved me in general. I made a lot of. This actually reminds me of things that I used to play on the radio A long long time ago because what specific low the in the eighties. Yeah because it's of a piece of of mostly African can Americans finding the available definitions insufficient and looking for ways of using artistic tools to expand that announced the expansion mansion and moving forward right coming to a close of this conversation. I didn't WanNa talk about one musician. Who I learned about from Geos List Matters Joel? Ross it's Joe. Ross plays vibraphone get a record. This year is called kingmaker. Thought this record was a Banger A smooth Banger I really enjoyed it. I felt like there was almost like an unconscious elegance to it and I was struck by how easy it was for me to. You get absorbed inside of it and at the same time be like kind of like woken up by it. I and I've listened to everything on your list. I listen to a bunch of stuff that Martin had written about as well well. This was the only record. They're really work that way for me. Well I'd be really curious to know more about him you guys earlier. He plays a lot and gagging right. Now this record is as an old self recorded basically talked me talk me through it so I mean Joel. Ross is one of these. Just preternatural synthesizers like he takes history and he takes the present moment and it all just kind of bundled together and comes out like you said kind of in this really cool stream of ideas of sound. He's one of those guys like I mean this record reminds me more than anything else that has come out recently of Roy Hargrove in in the nineties because it does that thing where it is nominally quite idiotically jazz. Contemporary jazz down the center like everybody in the jazz world. Yup He's got the chops he's hitting the notes like he's doing it exactly as you would be taught you ought to do it in school. And and then he's just flying beyond and you can't even say how'RE Y. I mean he's not breaking the mode in a way that so conspicuous. He's not like say it's not an avant-garde send up of anything in particular. But he's just got an original way of playing the vibraphone that's rooted in Milt Jackson and Bobby Hutcherson the two great pillars of vibraphone in the mid twentieth century and he's got a funk and hip hop influence flow. That also is deeply still swinging in a jazz way. So Martin. How do you how do you define the force that has come on the scene in the last three about listen? Joel Ross is what sociation I make and sure there are all kinds of references. That suggest bobby. Hutcherson Milt Jackson accent or read north all even but then when I saw him at chess gallery three weeks ago four weeks recently one of the two things that struck me was his first solo. The musician that came to mind was grand Poobah you know just in the way he played and You know the thing is I'm I'm a fan of Terrell. Ross maybe big Fan Ross. But I'm not one hundred percent sold yet because I feel like the movie just starting. Yeah Dan You know there's a lot more especially as he evolves as a composer and that sort of thing but the other thing that totally completely blew me away that jazz gallery. The show was aside from the fact that it was completely totally sold out. I'd say half the crowd wasn't a jazz crowd that I'm the one of the things that I have immense amounts of fun with is. I'm out often enough that you know I can smell jazz on people and and so one of the things you know. There are certain musicians. I Darcy James. Argue is another his crowd. You you know you might be waiting to get into one of his shows and they're talking about going to the ring cycle or something like that attracts a non jazz crowd. The people I saw at Joel Ross. Were people that I. I saw Gary Clark at celebrate Brooklyn Pat. Yeah kind of crowd. I mean it's as if you know. I don't think there's a role. Ross tiny desk concert but it was a tiny desk crowd. Yeah there ought to be and I mean that's really going to be essential for the music going forward. We talked a little bit about jazz being engaged in that kind of super important process of breaking down its own boundaries in which at all the great moments for the music. It's been doing. But for a few the decades it was more concerned about building its own boundaries than bringing them down. I think when you look at the audience at a lot of jazz shows as you mentioned Martin. That's a huge problem. I'm Lou you can tell that. Most of the cats in the crowd are also musicians themselves or have been in some way raised within the music and there are a lot of artists nowadays. Who are breaking out of that one of them is also similarly to Joel? Ross arising musician who with roots in Chicago now based in New York Murky Hill who also put out a great record this year and record that actually unlike Joel Ross's does not check all the boxes to be called a contemporary jazz record. It's called love tape and it's it's much more almost like a beat tape and it like many other records. These days in jazz uses clips of words spoken to convey unveil messages. That give you something a little more tangible to hold onto. But also you know once in a while Josh Johnson Alto Sax player or Markey's Hill himself. The trumpeter will break out with a dazzling solo. So yeah I think that because the music itself is escaping its own sort of shadow you you know like dancing outside of of whatever boundaries are around that the crowd is following and the media that cover. The music is following Joe. Ross's record got not a best new music but it got a warm review from pitchfork and I'm sure made a big difference and that's happening more and more to I'm GonNa do a little bit of urine wrapping up after this but let's go along with someone off the record listen to ill relations And and it before or we close out the episode. I know it's early twenty twenty but I did want to talk a little bit about Twenty Nineteen Been Very enjoyable year for podcast and end. I've been really grateful for all the feedback and the emails and tweets and instagram messages etc.. PODCAST doesn't happen alone own so I wanted to take a moment to kind of talk about the folks who are involved one. Thank John Parrella. Our chief pop music critic. Joe Kaas Garelli are pop. Music reporter Karen Organza are pop music editor who are frequent guests and pop gang knows them. Well I wanNA talk about Pedroso. Who is not here today? But Pedro is our faithful full producer and is behind making me look presumably better than I ordinarily. Look Actually Dan is the room today and Brad is not in the room but Dan and Brad had to help on the back end. And I'm always grateful for that shouts to Gilbert who runs culture. WHO's a big podcast? Listener would up Gilbert. I kinda worry sometimes about the state of criticism and I get anxious about. Is the Internet. Undermining the possibility for strong critical writing contrarian very uncritical writing writing that is not designed to make you liked on the Internet and so I was Worri with each New Year of podcast. Like are they gonNA GONNA be new folks that I can have on the show and I put together a list of everybody who was on the show this year and I won't say at least half. It was their first time time. I was really really excited to have all these folks on this year. So just to read real quick ten blanks. EDGEWATER CEPEDA BRIAN. X Chen in Bret Clarkson name. Cochran Camp collins-benn Dandridge lemke. Jim Jauregui says talking about Hootie. All things a Sydney Ember. Eli Suzy exposito Larry Fitzmaurice making Garvey. Hana Georgia's Jason. Green Aisha Harris. Hunter Heiress Robert Villa Caroline Haskins Isabelle. You Harare Manda Has Charles Holmes Shannon. How jains Assan James Jeff Johnson? Sebastian Jones Christian yueh-tzu Kim Ron Lieber Lieber Robert Muravich Evelyn. McDonnell Leslie Morris. Keith Murphy. Mar Andrew Ski. Amanda Petrovic Al.. Pierre Ben Ratliff it lifts Jody Rosen Melena Riziq Ao. Scott Maria Sherman Remiss Cillian Ben Scenario Danielle Smith Jay. Smooth Tim Sommer in Frazier tharp. David Turner Andrew Unterberger. Elizabeth Vincent. Tally Jada Watson. Nick Weidenfeld Jonah Weiner Natalie Winer brianna younger Lindsay Absorb Lads all on podcast in twenty nine teen. The state of podcast is strong even stronger this year. Thank you to Martin and Geo. Oh for coming out today. Our producers are Patriots Outta from had separate media and Dan Powell in the room today. Listen every podcast ever ny times dot com slash slash. podcast email me. PODCAST TIMES DOT com any questions you have and if you have a question about jazz afforded someone who knows the answer. Let's go with a little bit of hip hop jazz as it used to be. Not as this today but as it once was this is off jazz. Record that guru put out. 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Creepypasta Theater Vol 3

Podcast 42

1:18:51 hr | 6 months ago

Creepypasta Theater Vol 3

"You are about to embark on a show about four people who find themselves from Russ engine the back stories of ball culture history joy first boss jail, Troth, Laura loss, and suffering the air as they poorly impersonate celebrities drink a lot of beer and answer very hard trivia questions you are now listening to. PODCASTS FORTY TWO It is time for podcasts forty two and I am super excited because this is probably in the top two of my favorite reoccurring episodes that we do. It is creepy Pasta Theater. What's your other one insert lightning and thunder sound effects The Christmas One about this many times. Yeah I figured. About it many more time. So matter-of-fact even said because this year because of covid things are changing for US workwise. So I said, if no matter what we have to at least come together to do the creepy Pasta episode and the Christmas episode. So we're recording both of them at the same time if nothing else this. I'll take after take out the creepy music and I'll dubbing Christmas music. and. It'll just be the same thing but will be different and it's too early in the year for me to have to deal with Michael Boob lay against. Hopefully something different than my go boo blade. So we are GonNa actually open the beer cooler first before we get into our stories. Do. What's in the cooler? We have two beers because we have a lot of beer, the beer cooler drink here. Welcome. This one is from jacker brewing company. All right. It's their cuddle buddy devil Ip and the label's really scary as one of the picked up for the episode it's an eight point, two percent Ab, which is also very scary. That's why we picked it for this episode this one's out. Of North Dakota I was trying to figure out what it said there North Dakota's scary state. That's why we why there's a viking in the logo for this episode. Pairs the Viking. It looks like a Viking to me Oh that the actual like the actual brewery logo looks to me like it's a viking with a hop beard. That definitely Viking we'll be able to see the picture of the beer since you don't know what we're talking about. pooping the site. What's the other one? The other one is from seventh Sunbury. It's there had banger. IPA Not a scary as of much of a label. No but it's like spinal tap. If the blackest of black they could get for the can since son could be kinda scared. That's kind of a scary name reminds me of cult. It reminds me of iron made in the seven son of the seven son said that doesn't spell seven it's. Seven then. Spell, with the number seven and then some letter. So it's like seven. Out of Seven Vince, they share a brewery in two places. So they're in like Dunedin and Tampa. Florida beer too scary places where we picked up from this episode exactly I, mean, have you ever been to Dunedin Scary I didn't even know there was a needed. It's right next to the Dunkin on the corner. It's like right there. Barely get home without Broadway. Dunedin Broadway is dark tonight. So what the Creepy Pasta episode is is you're unfamiliar with Creepy Pasta. The are scary stories. Written by regular old people and published on the Internet. Have you ever written one. Yet. No I've never written a creepy pasta she. Actually a professional writer. He's got the IMDB credits approve of the and I published. And insieme Barnes and noble. Stand there with an empty book. So their their published stories by regular people and sometimes they're. Pretty good. But mostly, they're really bad and they tend to be full of spelling mistakes and errors and lack of. And lack of sentence structure. We taking these pastas we're going to turn them into a little play and we don't change anything about how they're written. So if it sounds a little off, that's the way the author intended it to be. So. What you're telling me as you want me to Ron Burgundy at for wants. Yeah for once. Yes. Okay. You have full permission. So the first story is called. The supermarket monster by call me Kevin. Funny. Is I think this might have been written by my brother who became the supermarket monster when people did not follow correct directions down the aisles. Yeah. Way He was he's very concerned about that. I think he became the supermarket monster. His name's Kevin just nobody knows what you're talking about. To, remind you to call them Kevin Yeah call me have a combing Evan and I go Kevin Girl. Coming that nobody knows what you're talking about. Yeah. If seen up, they know what? I'm talking about. Okay I've never seen it. Q. Scary Music. Once in a place far away a very long time ago there was a boy named Roger. He was tall but a bit round. He lived in a big city where unusual things seemed to happen every day. For example, his uncle died. That's strange anyway. So I'd passenger that Roger has lots of enemies in the city. All the people he used to like right now, his enemies because he changed. Used to be a really successful banker name Ron. But he decided to go another way and now he's a Hobo name Roger. Opposite of a bankers are Hobo supposed to be laughing these spooky scary. Sorry. Because of this his friends thought they didn't like him anymore. So they said you're our enemy now roger was like, no, I have no friends but loads of enemies, Roger Lives Day to tomorrow by the change. Spooky. You told me not to read it ahead of time he gets off strangers outside McDonald's. Sometimes he. When he gets Are Info from before. When he gets enough money, he goes to the local shopping center called teco. He now by things when they are on sale. So he by only buys things when they're on sale because he doesn't have any much money sometimes even gets enough changed by chicken when it's on sale, he goes into KFC and says. Cook this me. And they do it because they are his enemies and spit in his food. Yuck today on the most windy and stormy and rainy and cloudy and sat of days he decided he needed to eat and what teco when he went inside there were no baskets. This was weird. They must be giving them a break today. So he kept going he saw that bread was on sale. So he's going to buy it in a big fat hairy man ran up to him and said, no, that now for you a tip for sale sign away, which made the bread go back up to one hundred, thousand dollars. This is all in the future. So that's normal for the future. New. Yeah. Roger made a face similar to this. And he said. Boorda don't Gimme vert I will strive. As written folks. And the Fatman laughed. and His fat went bouncy from laughing. Did one of Ron's enemies died ceron fell his anger rising. That happens when his enemies die and he punched the man so hard that a spat fell off and the man was so angry I'm angry that I'm crying blood the lights went out. So fast that Roger knew he was going to be murdered a black miss came out of the cereal boxes and the Bacon was flying everywhere pancake mix splashing over the counters freezers freezing at higher temperatures that normal so that it was freezing the frozen peaches too much Rod Rosenstein way to the aisle that's always full of people it has like lewd sweets and crips. CRIP, my favorite there was like ten. No wait fifteen monsters. They're all black with is boogieing with blood and tears that look like Bacon though are actually dead people skin. He screamed firmer and hope. But when the fatman camera he said. But when the fatman camera he said. That's what it says I understand. But when the Fatman Camera, he said you by fat now you will pay I am your enemy. And then he ran went inside a freezer but forgot that the freezers throws too hard now and he died from freeze. Roger ran to annex. It was almost out when he tripped on something he looked down and saw his enemy sane. How May pancakes stone? And then he said they'll arm Roger. You Will Ron's friend not mine smelly. Ran. Out The door he was safe he got out he escaped he avoided death. He was alive. He was tall. He was safe. He was Roger. Did he went back in for the bread but forgot about the monsters. So when he got the bread, the monsters came out between the slices and cried blood from their mouth saying I enemies. And he said, how do you know my old name? And then they ate him and he just fell down on the floor crying from death his last words were. Are Your Enemies. Then, he fell down and died just before he died he said I will be your supermarket. Monster. So. When you are in a supermarket remember that Ron is waiting. In the future though because it's the future remember. The End. All right next story is called smoking by author unknown. Christopher device. I didn't write any these. As we all know smoking is really bad for your health. What a lot of people don't realize is that when you smoke those few minutes of the expected lifespan are literally transformed into the ASS. You flick away into an ashtray ash trays each and every one of them are constructed by a single group running several dozen from front companies. Basically, unless you're putting out your smokes benef- beneath your in the Ashtray your kid made at Camp Dispensing Ashen life until the group's eager little receptacle. There Ashtrays absorb the life force when the ashes and send it to a central holding facility. Not. One knows for sure what these guys are going to do when they collected all that life energy. But it's probably to be you GE-. Pedigree. On the Internet, the and. Others next one is actually kind of a famous one. Is Candle Cove when people think of creepy pasta fan of the genre then you definitely know the story. And, this is by Kris Straub and this story takes place in the net nostalgia forum in the television section local. The local television section yes. Sky Hell. Zero Three Three Subject Candle cove local kids show does anyone remember this kid show? It was called Campbell cove and I must have been six or seven. I never found reference to it anywhere. So I think it was on a local station around Nineteen seventy-one Nineteen seventy-two I lived in iron ton at the time I don't remember which station but I do remember it was on a weird time like four o'clock pm Mike underscore painter sixty, five reply. Seems really familiar to me. I grew up outside of the Ashland. Was Nine years old and seventy two. Candle cove was it about pirates I remember pirate Mary Net at the mouth of a cave talking to a little girl? Yes. Okay. I'm not crazy. I remember pirate Percy. I was always kind of scared of him. He looked like he was built from parts of other adults real low budget. has had was an old portland baby doll looked like an antique that the in belong on the body I don't remember what station it was I don't think it was w TSF though Jaren underscore two, thousand, five reply. Sarda resurrect this old thread but I know exactly what show you mean? Sky Shale. I think candle cove ran for only a couple months and seventy one, not seventy two I was twelve and I watched a few times with my brother. It was Channel Fifty Eight, whatever station that was my mom would let me switch to it after the news. Let me see what I remember. I took place in candle cove and it was about a little girl who imagined herself to be friends with pirates. The pirate ship was called the laughing stock and pirate. Percy wasn't very good pirate because he got scared to easily and there was collided p music constantly playing. Don't remember the girl's name Janice or jade or something I. think Janice. Thank you. Karen. Memories. Flooded back when you mentioned the laughing stock and Channel Fifty, eight, I remember the bow of the ship was a wooden smiling face with the lower jaw Sumerch. It looked like it was swallowing the and had an awful Edwin voice and laughed I especially remember how jarring it was when they switched from the wooden slash plastic model to the foam puppet version of the head. That's hot Yeah. I. Remember that now to Winky Smiley face, do you remember this part sky? Shall you have to go inside? Hug Mike I got killed trading that yes. I remember that's what the ship always toe. Percy. When there was a spooky place, he had to go in like a cave or dark room where the treasure was and the camera push in on laughingstocks face with each pause you have to go inside. With his two is a skew and that flopping jaw in the fishing line open and closed it. Just looks so cheap an awful. You guys remember the villain he had a face that was just a handlebar moustache above really tall narrow teeth Kevin underscore hat. Reply I honestly honestly thought the villain was piracy was about five when the show was on nightmare fuel that wasn't a villain, the public with the moustache that was the villain sidekick horace horrible. He had a monocle to, but it was on top of the mustache I used to think that meant he had only one I but yeah, the villain was another Marionette, the skin taker. I. Can't believe what they let us watch back then Jesus H, Christ the skin. What kind of a kid show we watch it I seriously could not look at the screen when the screen take a showed up he just descended out of nowhere is strings just a dirty skills wearing that brown top hat and Cape, and his glass is with two big skull Crest Almighty lesson, his top hat and cloak all sewn up crazily. What that's supposed to be children's skin. Yeah I think so. Remember his mouth didn't open and close his jaw just slid back and forth I. Remember the Louisville said, why does your mouth move like that and the skin taker didn't look at the girl but at the Cameron said to grind your skin I'm so relieved that other people remember this terrible show I used to have this awful memory a bad dream I had where the opening jingle in debt, the show fade it and from black, and all the characters were there for the cameras just cuttings each. Of their faces and they were just screaming and the puppets marionettes for failing sporadically and just all screaming screaming the girl was moaning and crying like she had been through hours of this I woke up many times not nightmare used to wet the bed when I had it I. think that was a dream I. Remember that I remember that was an episode now no, no, no no not possible. There was no plot or anything I mean literally just standing in place crying and screaming for the whole show. Manufacturing, the memory because you said that, but I swear to, God I remember seeing what you described just screamed God yes. The little girl Janice seeing shake and the skin taker screaming through his gnashing teeth his jaw careening. So wildly I thought it would come off it's wire hinges I turned it off and it was last time I watched Iran to tell my brother and he and we didn't have the courage to turn it back on I visited my mom today at the Nursing Home I asked her about when I was little in the early seventies when I was eight or nine if she remembered a kids show candle cove. She's she said she was surprised I can remember that and I asked why and she said because he used to think it was so strange that you said I'm GonNa Go Watch candle cove now mom, and then you would go then you would turn the TV too static and just watch dead air for thirty minutes. You had a big imagination with their little pirate show. Da and. Yes one of the better creepy pastas. A couple out there that are really good and famous like I said, that's one of them. The next stories called cannot me like that? That's not what the story is. Actually, ask you I. Just looking into, she's just surprised that you found a good creepy pasta story. I kinda wanted to do that for a couple of years but like there's no humor to it. But I. To do desks one speed. No humor. Is called body more murder land by author unknown. Early in the morning, of August, nineteenth two, thousand, five, the body of young black man approximately sixteen or seventeen years old was found on Wolf Street in downtown Baltimore the corpse lay in a pool of blood that was dressed in a pair of loose jean shorts over white cotton boxers a Baltimore Ravens. Football Jersey number seventy seven and the name Ortiz a pair. Of White cotton athletic socks a small goal cross on a chain around the body's neck. The body worn no shoes and no wallet or other Identifying Possessions Baltimore City. Police concluded that the young man had been just another victim of the CD's frequent violent crimes nobody came forth to claim or dentistry the body and it was passed onto the coroner's Office for autopsy. The coroner's report concluded that the cause of death was blood loss and trauma caused by three shots to the upper chest, one of which penetrated the heart and the other to the left lung so far. So normal right here's the part the official statement left out. There were indeed three entry rooms. But. There are no exit wounds. and. After a thorough search of the body nece slugs fragments were found nor were there any heat damage? The young man had been killed by three shots to the chest. But there were never any bullets. The body was never identified. Postscript. As of this writing, the Baltimore Ravens have never had a player who supported the number seventy seven or who was named. Ortiz. I think I know this one he was probably shot with like. Ice Bullets. Thing like. No No. I mean that would I mean they would just melt. Shoot him think you're missing a spooky spooky part is there's no number seventy seven on the Baltimore Personalized Jersey. Or Ortiz pictures on number personalized the Jersey His Jersey he shot with ice bullets. No, it's the Omega Ray from dark side. It's transported them in time it's definitely a ghost. Dark. Side is how is he goes wearing a Jersey that never existed? Future. Exactly. Like I said, dark side hit him with the Omega beams and boom in the past and then shot with ice bullets. No ice bullets captain cold. Only comic. What people know what you're talking about I know next story is called God's mouth. By labral cadaver. Why are you wishing you dead? Hopefully it's pronounced ABRACADABRA CADAVER A no no. No, you're saying it. All wrong. Quiet Laura the suites. Nathan huffed and puffed under his breath as he star stared into God's mouth it looked like the big bad wolf ready to interrupt the three innocent little pigs as they hurriedly fortified their makeshift homes. He grinned at this thought and then turned his head to look to Margaret. She was a couple of feet down the hill from the entrance to the cave holding a walking stick close to her petite breasts. Hurry up. He called down to her. He turned back to the caves still Brennan and old rotted sign outside read God's Mouth Cave keep out. Margaret finally made it to the entrance and stood him almost doubled over and out of breath check it out. God's mouth. Wonder Jesus is ENA says Margaret was less amused. GimMe that damn water bottle the open bottle met her lips and firm Moment Nathan, felt peaceful in a way watching her drink the water he side and turned his flashlight on. He pointed into the cave it was black. Market, was finally Santa Strata. She nodded Nathan Clark too friendly to her back and they walked into God's mouth. The inside was dark dismissal and endlessly black it seemed to stretch endlessly no matter how Nathan positioned the flashlight. The, rocky terrain was dampened imposing the last natural light slowly disappeared behind them as they made their way deeper and deeper. Despite the lag diets the stalagmites, another various rocky formations being so jagged the world seemed as if one could lay down and. Rest there forever. It was comfortable Margaret started to shiver. Major Co.. Margaret did not respond and then key blackness of the mouth. Continued to walk in silence until suddenly Margaret stopped and stood motionless Nathan Stop to why the hell even in here. Nathan shrugged and shove the flashlight under his face laid shadows obscured half his face, the other half illuminated in a wretched mask. Spooky. She didn't move. I thought you wanted to go. Nathan's voice echoed along the cave. Walls. I mean, you did say you want to go see some major for our vacation and you did sound impressed when I told you about my visit to mammoth caves couple years back. So now you want it to go here I wanted to go to a beach or something, but no, a cave, a cave Nathan I know you have this Weird Fetish Or something, but I don't really want to be dragged into it. No don't get me wrong. I'd love to go on a trip and get into nature and fresh air but this this is Kay they're not fresh air that's is particularly for Minton plus isn't this illegal? Can we please just leave they both stood there. The only sound could be heard was the electricity in the air being stifled and smothered by the damp atmosphere Nathan began to not sure Margaret was following him. Nathan stop pleased up Nathan Stop. I'm sorry I'm tired and I'm not used to running climbing around and and the light I'm just tired. It's okay. Really it's fine which means out I don't remember not a one of them could remember and confusion of of our argument they had forgotten which way they had been moving should've brought goddamn rope or something to trail from the entrance to the cave. Let's go this way They walked for what seemed to be hours. Their feet were tied and Sore Margaret Groaned and held Nathan. Tan. Tightly. Fault suddenly. Nathan froze her hey put your hand Phyllis Rock Margaret's bear palm pressed against the stone isn't this like abnormally Margaret. San Thing Nathan began to walk to work his way along the wall. Feeling it. As you went shining the flashlight in front of him suddenly felt sharp pain of his head is a ceiling. A Gods Mount met his scout ow Shit Oh. Natan are you? Okay Martin was on the verge away. Margaret was on the verge of panic. Please come down. Here sued I promise. Neighborhood side again, partners flashlight upwards. Now to see the Limbaugh, them seem to be getting narrower he thought that strange listen Margaret. Deep I've been turn around. They walk for a decent length. Nathan kept his flashlight pointed upwards the space and the case seemed to become smaller and smaller. There was no resonate in light left and God's mouth aside from the flashlight they were completely lost Nathan let go Margaret Hand and began to feverishly feel his way along the walls. No Nathan Nathan kept feeling along the wall until he abruptly hit corner. Margaret, this is to be a dead end. I read. Now answer came from Margaret Nathan began to repeat the process again almost running as he felt, the wall run passes fingertips, it was nothing but cou damp rocks and jagged spears suddenly found himself at a corner again. Fuck, fuck. And the corner of the Caves Mall where Nathan had been. So many times already heard a noise. It sounded muffled static from television he presses against the rock. He seemed to be getting even warmer. Now he heard faint sounds of Margaret on the other side of the rock she was screaming. Now. He began running haphazardly into the walls around him. What Darling realization Nathan was overcome by way of sheer horror there was no insurance there was no exit only these four cores in him I'm bleeding so much in the cuts gets a bashing my body into the caves walls. Out Me. Coming in for the kill. The person. Must. Read Cage. Nathan sit there for hours waiting for death. His flashlight was becoming dim. I feel the still torture the rocky walls prestigious by bank Nathan began to cries a laid down on the ground. He led his flashlight role on the small hill stone as equality stayed prone tears drip down his face he turned and looked at the flashlight. It's last fading beams of light pointed at something not far away from his face he's. squinting in the darkness as high as Wyden, and he felt tears follow over Har- even harder from the face from his face the Rock Star Pearson his skin and blood dripped from all sides they're and the last light of his flashlight Nathan saw hand whose nails were painted red and he screamed and agony as he watched God's mouth to lay laced lastest meal in could. Latest latest, his latest menial. Latest last this lastest. I think those interesting choices for how you guys read that. Sabrina was Morgan Freeman if he was a redneck woman. Welcome. Jail was stuck on helium. and. Laura who has her back to me for some reason? Didn't care a bit. Underneath. Careless shows that character our. Character doesn't give a rat. Adding not to my repertoire of Morgan, Freeman as a redneck woman. As a redneck one I am forever going to speak like I'm on helium. You're in a cave yet. You brought helium balloons. You should have brought a rope Nathan, but you think if. Your row. Nathan nailed. Calmly. Nathan said late. Name in the fire. All right. Moving on. The next one is called the scariest video game. By author unknown is this one by you Chris because it's got us in there. No sign the parts. Okay. Myself, you can be whoever you WANNA be he. WanNa be redneck Morgan Freeman. Character on him. You ought to just be yourself. You got so many options by showing much myself as Margaret with A. She said in a panic. took. Part of that, she realized it. You're you're in a cave that's trapping you slowly by the walls moving in. That anybody got A. Glass of wine. Would make it easier. I just finished plane one of the scariest video games ever now hear me out before saying, oh, he's probably just a girly man get scared of everything. I don't get scared of video games or movies. I played many survival horror games and have seen many horror movies in my day. This came was different. Very, different. You are given any of backstory to the game at all. As soon as you press play, it throws you right into the game. Apparently you play as a madman for some reason, you escaped from whatever mental hospital room you were hiding in. Now, the very hord state of your mind has transformed the Hawes of the hospital into nothing but a pitch black maze with the only light being the walls which glow a deathly blue. Your character is apparently some type of Mad Cannibal. You can barely control you can force them into corners and creepy hallway, but not much else can be done. Your character seems to grab anything and try to eat it whatever it is in front of him is thrown into his mouth and he munches it down. While playing the game, you're being chased by four hideous fucking scary ghost monster. You cannot hurt them at all and they come even close to one is instant death in which the ghost latches onto you and obscure insides out all. While you hear the horrible noise of your body being torn, you can however eat some objects hidden in the maze. After which your character goes into it even more unstable state you can literally eat the ghosts monsters your characters run right up to them and devours them only leaving there. Is there any words to describe how horrific and terrifying this game is now want to spoil the surprises for you? Just, go ahead and try it for yourself. Google word. Pacman. and. You'll find it on first serious. fucking, goes, which Sabrina is wearing. Act Did you read it ahead of time or was it was coincidence toe coincidence churches scary. She s she founded in a corner somewhere. Yeah Wow is by the dimly blue wall. While I was being. Want what what, what? The. All right next scary spooky tale. If you can handle, it is called Zach and Megan by author unknown. Doesn't even say that. Just as Zach Meghan. Broden I did not write any of these mega changes, the spelling of her name. Which is why I think he? Does. I'd never noticed back in Meghan. Meghan. Ranga voice in the forest. What do you want? Yelled Zach. It's just me. said his girlfriend Megan. Oh I knew that. Then, she started to fade. She Oh, she disappeared. Room what's happening Yoke Zach Then he solid. Chin, the tree moaning that looked up and screened. Then He. Then, he mustered up the courage. And, then he asked. What are your giant is four? To look through and through what are your giant clause for does garage And who look. What are your giant teeth four? Olds. That? Wasn't. An all caps. This next was gonNA be fun. For shadowy that started running and when he was in a clearing, he looked back and he saw his house. So he ran inside and though three rings no three things. To graves in the yard and a monster. Zach screamed. So loudly he died. Check. Out The monster was Shrek Smoking Pot. And he just wanted to give an. What? About the month there was Shrek Smoking Pot he just wanted to give an onion to the child. The End. I don't think he'll sleep tonight. This isn't the one. This is not the jail special. Now we know. You're not supposed to yell you will people turn off the podcast. Read it as normal read it as normal but like emphasize it because it's in Cap, not not read it like it's all in caps. So so real like it's all not Narita. Say. So nobody can see overseas. It's like ninety six year old grandma got a hold of the scripted. Caps lock exactly the whole. The whole script is written in caps just copy pasted over, and then we assign parts out. But these. We'll screen the whole thing regardless because they've done that to me before. And then editing I got pot everything down. Because people drive their cars off. Screaming ears of don't scream in their ear. Okay fine. I wasn't going to rewrite it because I was being late. To rewrite it all you had to do with highlight at all and then turn catfights cap lock not doesn't it does not how that works. But Things Change Them I can change the color and the font and the size. So maybe we made them smaller print we wouldn't have noticed they were all caps. No, we we it's. So would've been yelled all in caps just with like an accent. Morgan Freeman. Anyway I was nervous about putting the story. People. Read it the way it's written pretend. It's not written that way. Okay. Never, the story is hello I have no is not all in caps by. I know you wanNA shout so Babbitt. Coach. Bernie. And told me not to yell happy, medium fine. Pretend you're on helium don't pretend. If you don't copy and paste this to twenty places in an hour, you will suffer my curse. You will wake up and I will be in your bed. I will have a knife. Then I will disappear you will done have my seventh day curse they won while you lie asleep I will hide your socks throughout your house. When you go to find them, they will be hidden even better by me. Take to. Me and the hereon will go into your kitchen wall. You're not in your house and make a really big mess of your pots and pans and utensils day three. I will leave all your food out and it will spoil and you will be hungry or pay a lot of money. I will hide under your bed and try to try to tell knock knock jokes. Well, you try to fall asleep if you fall asleep, wake you up they five me and one hundred ghoulish horrific ghost will fly round room and a massive vortex and steal your soul subjecting U2 on ending whore day six I will jump doorways and Gary You. So much worse than taking my soul. I hate day six. Day Seven I. will hit you in the head with a book. Really hard. Okay. You gotTA. Go copy paste. Wouldn't let the yell yelled anyway that's right. We do what? Not yet should never written that in all caps I didn't you knew better I didn't write any of these. You keep saying does this sound like my writing? Yes. Okay. He got me there. Also you're the one who gives out the parts. You could just read that yourself if you didn't trust us to yell at, you could have read it all. It was a trust exercise and Y'all failed. You're welcome. No you trusted us to do that. So I think we pass. Next story when a man's gotTa go speaking of which. By author. This is a quick when you only have two seconds ago. All I need. Paint was a very Todd Jong Man. He had just scoffed down beef and bean Burrito from the local gas station and his stomach was telling him to never do it again. Fine. Hey, said to himself at least not until tomorrow. Hey, continued plying his mortgage game and marveled at how many men A believe it's MMORPG's yes. I'm British and that's how we say everything. Jr.. Massively. Multiplayer online role playing game is what it stands for. That's what I said more. Game and mobile that how many more experience points he would need to buy a new ship suddenly his. Intestines had decided that they couldn't take the pressure anymore Oh gee. Need to get to the bathroom, Hey, flipped up the toilet seat and sat down. Little. Did he know that he would be the loss shit he would ever take. This is no normal shit somebody help me but peter lived alone at never had any friends he could ever call suddenly. Burst Harley Realistic Goal flew everywhere and his skeleton bumped out of his kid flying into the like an rocket model blasted at junior high school. At SPAC, his skin was left behind like a human crops fleshy shell. Weekend another one where the guy pooped a skeleton. Happens may swear this is like what three years in a row that we've had somebody poop skeleton I do search for the poop skeleton. Shirk. Police get. Don't check my google search. It's pooped skeletons out the FBI is wondering about me. All right. Our next. Scary terrible tales called the puppet strings by Fu Bari Void. Done Bari. Boy Bari Void. Mortgage. Him Mortgage. It all began when Jonathan Blake was dead. Wanted his siblings as his younger brother in eighteen years. Old Boy named Jack Blake found him dead in his room when he was trying to call his brother to come downstairs and have dinner when the family discovers that they were heartbroken from knowing that Jonathan is dead she sounds like some right. Collins Common. Use Commas just in the wrong spot. A few months later. Jack was sitting on his desk, narrowing his eyes and look it outside of the windows to see the birds, trees and skies while the teacher was in the middle of teaching while the teacher was teaching. He suddenly noticed that Jack was paid attention called out for Jack. Using Mr Blake. yes teacher. You paying attention to what I was teaching for this entire period. Jack looks around him and turns back at Teacher Dan Oh? Yes. Yes I do. Really, and then come up to the board and thaw this equation. Jack walks up to the bird as he began to do the math equation. When he is finished, he walked back to his chair and sat down dad walks back onto the wall and checks just size looks back at Jack. Correct. Mr Blake next time do not try and get distracted by anything especially when it's a my lesson understood. Jack Dodds good. Now let's continue. Shall we after school? It was now the afternoon Jack was walking down the streets back to his home while walking he noticed that there was a cat in the middle of the street as a truck was driving by was about to hit the Kitten Jack immediately rushes forward and throws the kit to the other side of the Road Bang. Jackie was been crushed by the truck as the driver immediately walk out of it and runs toward him. He hit my God hey, Hey, kid you. All right. The drivers stood there but Jack didn't respond the driver immediately Russia's back into his truck to call the ambulance the ambulance soon arrived and they've transferred Jack into the hospital at the Hospital Jacks Parrots Mary and Christopher sitting outside. Mary was sobbing and trying to hope that Jack would make it as when the doctor walks out of the room. Go Dig my son May on talked the doctor looks at her. Mr Miss Blake I'm sorry to inform you this. Your Son Jack Blake did not make it. Apparently those wounds are unavailable. He lost too much blood. I'm sorry to have to make your make you hear this and hopefully you can make it through the as the doctor walks away Mary falls on the Ground Christopher comes there and tries to commerce down. Or? What thaw. Jack slowly opens his eyes as he stood out of the bed and looks around what? Happened where am I? What is this place? I'm Captain Kirk. Is, this the hospital how did I end up here? Jack tries to remember after a few minutes later his eyes went, Wide Shit I was crashed by a truck. Oh. Jeez. Hope. Mom and dad are two of senator. Sad because of this. Maybe I should wait for someone to come in here. I guess but wait a minute what is happening to my voice warriors so As Jack Stays on the bed for a few minutes. Later, he just lives down onto the bed. But when he does, he started to feel like that he's lying on something What's this beneath my back Jack slowly turns around as his eyes went wide. He immediately jumped out of the bed as he falls and looks back in horror. What he saw in the bed was his body Jack is dead and has officially become a spirit that was not able to exit the Living World Jack stood up, it moves backward as he but there is not one period. As bumped into the mirror and he is actually turns around and looks at it when he looks to the Marinos is that there is something else different about him. His eyes are now blue and red his mouth is red. His skin tone is now grey what? I gotTA catch my breath. Right this. Jack Jumps back in shock only to find that there is something else that is happening to him. He is now levitating on the air. Am I dead? Is this what I look like now, why is my voice? So deep? Am I have vengeance spirit? The Door Opens Jack immediately flew towards the WASI passed through it. A few years later. In the middle of the Empty Street, a woman who is screaming from being robbed by criminal. As he was about to stab or suddenly he stopped his his body became an active. He slowly raises his hand and stabs his legs instead of targeting the woman. The criminal files is when the woman just runs away from behind the criminals back, a shadowy figure emerges revealing a boy was smiling as he swings his hands the man immediately gets dragged directly onto the air as he gets life off immediately into pieces. The End. I actually did not realize that that had no commas or periods lies. Lies. It's true I. Don't always read these. As he's writing them hence last year's. Fiasco with the. Garfield. The cat. Like you missed that one. Laura. A two day episode. Yeah. I don't remember I. Guess they think so. Comic con stuff or. School you guys hang out. Well, you do live like three hours away now. Matter this last year when I lived in this house, you must have been in a van down by the river. This next story is called the show Laura wasn't on by author on no. It's called wheel of fortune lost episode by author. Unknown. I worked as a janitor, an elementary school. Once, upon a time after up some kid vomit. VHS tape underneath the lunch table the lost episode of wheel of Fortune. It said I was so excited that I quit my job and one home and pop the VHS tape intimate maybe US player. Like by a person Pat. I'm sorry slavery ended years ago. Please spending in. Depend landed on bankrupt. Just in the lady contestant turned into a prostitute and had lines of cocaine all over her backside that means morally bankrupt a ripped out VHS tape, set it on fire. To this day, I cannot watch TV without wondering why I quit my awesome janitor job. The End. I mean I was wondering that too. He could have just said he was sick or something you had to go home early just watched after work. I feel like he was kind of a overzealous leave work that day I quit aren't we although? I don't know how many people in this room have a job. Site is twenty, twenty, three of us the last story this is the last story, and this is the jails special only drink. You have three. It's more like two and a half the jail special is try to find the story with the worst misspellings the worst punctuation use. And then jail gets to read it to us. So he's GonNa. Read it. As it is written, nothing has been changed. This is the story the spooky story of the Spooky Man. To ends by author unknown, all these are author unknown. By unknown, it's not even the authors unknown to nine. It's a mystery story. That's the best pen name ever. Good luck. Warning this so tree will ask blow your head ten meal. PC's risk at your own read. Spooky story of the Spooky Manana. What's up an honor tie? A yes. Has had no practice reading this this. Time seat. Once up on a time, there was a game tat is what called toll off. Too. I is always hear it about. In, a school and I very like shoot gaming's so I was like, Hey, what is happens if I tried this If I try this a game. And then I was Adele Moodie in a game lecturer name ice. This was a very exciting moment of the in life. I was going to play a good gaming with a lot of very balanced and very a friendly community. For some is a reason. It stopped the down hard at exactly six, six, six percent. This was a wired because is was a very spooky ass new brain. But is. But it is on freeze leader. Ciller Evan. MNUTES. Click on store and download team fortress two, three, zero one. While I was downloading. Weary Game, me Come Chore Is. Start speech to me he is a say. The alert. You as well. Diet twenty, five hours per week I replied. Immune. The game finale is now download. I launched the game. A spooky man with valve is back for head. He'd trends and the me and then I get sacred. I know that is only see crine, but don't is scrutiny as Shite. The game fish loading and Pick cells suddenly become a hyper realistic blob and starts running out of my screen I was very scared from that but I wiped it and played on I. Chose a good server and shows the black explosions master creams say that he is storing and P. I is a walk outside of base and look a round. I see new man ruining around. Game is have no sound when suddenly a slim humane shape is in far away to fort. He. Or She? turned around and ruined away. At this moment I do know it like to game because is spooky the SITUA. Pu. Out of off me. My Man Walking Room and think I am master Beta scene because she is hear me yell like a psychopath and is says speak silence. I see. Okay. Then man leaves the room. Exiting is gamed for awhile because is bore. Weeks. Eight ater. Double Click the game and played again this time the is man no turn around I'm happy. I go to Blab server. Server and Jews red face man or spy from here. I used the this guy's kit and turn into heavy man from. Russian land. I walk out side and press ee, which makes the might charter say medic. A parental. The enemy is here at asks well, but no enemy edicts tried to touch me with their medic guns. After I could hear a high pre realism, white noise and lots of Caractacus. Hers Cry Literally Cry. I was very in spooks and in Chat I see someone say Someone. You is should not have got this game. I thought he is trowel. But he was on. The green team. I don't know how he is having a green name. I had an idea of going where that black figure tried to take me still in to Fart. When I is ago, I see a lot of blood l over the. Lean. Dripping fresh I, get afraid and go upstairs I C. N. G. Beam a spooky dead men. Be Sh- BRI is behind the knife butter. Good night him. He is blue with scary massive. Is and BIG GHOST STI hat. He had a grammy seen hurt I got so spooked out sniffs myself. What? Myself Eight. I break my Compu- trae by throw emptying out of the wind. Now, I was very fear. Now. It has now is have been seven years since I played team far trez. and. I was kicked out of House for throw WIG my p. c. out of wind now. Now I live in cardboard box with nothing but STD. Scary? True. Every night I usual- here spooky noise and see a man like in game. I need to go and die now. So thank thank you fo dean and seeing you next TM. No. It didn't record that whole thing. Do that over, you're a liar liar. Tries to, me. Every year. We have so many issues on. I totally relate well. Kept Up. So the last will post on the website. So you can actually see how rough that was for jail to read. And the computer. Like I don't know what that line even supposed to stay. There were some of I was just like I mispronouncing what's mispronounced and. Some of them are phonetically correct but they're not spell right there were some that I'm just like well. CPT E and C E nights should have been and I G H T and it was Those are fun I. Like this one j already. We're the bucks that had to tease so. Well. Let's do something else scary and revisit the Spear Cooler. Don't think it's that scary. J.. No, way? No. Way. Way. Cool, now. Perfect. APA. Right, they were better than the. Last, show. well, that shows actually being released after the show. Well, they're better than the next. We have from the future. So when you listen to the next show. That these ones are better. Dark side is all right. What we reading I JAIL You know what? Let's do the cuddle buddy the WPA from recor brewing company out of Fargo North Dakota that was in the glass. That's glass. Okay. I don't know what all the sediment is in it. There is a lot. A lot of sediment and might laugh that is beer p. Fair P. Not. Bear but beer p bear p either where he misspelled it in his script problems, it's beer beer beer p. he mixed in I'll go first. I actually enjoyed this one I thought it was really good. He would you like it with all the sediment 'cause like mine sedimentary no look at yours and mine. Spitting Yours. That's called backwash Laura. I didn't even drink it. So how is that possible? This one that you're supposed to like flip over probably know. Does it say flip over I can't read it. Yeah exactly. Drunk. At seven Nope does not see any of that so. says. Pale to row. Spelt careful what I you still reading the last. She's reading about the Malt Taylor van. Anyway back to my reading says you guys go right works by Punch Gut and you're still getting squirrelled I'm gonNA give it a six but here Cynthia I really enjoyed this. He's not GonNa Finish your? Years full of sand. Terrible but millions of beaches I give each is for a little while a fruity finish at the end I really enjoy that. I I don't know why it's so cloudy and so full of sand but because it's a double I, pay 'em disallowed. Can we please mix them. Why are we mix? Do you WanNa? Try Mind set have a better taste. Okay. Anyway six for me. Really good Ip drink that one all day. Just. Don't look at it. Laura still won't drink it get lors chewing. or I mean give one. Oh, it's one lower than I thought. Any other reason besides the sentiment. Yeah I like the way. I'm club. That'd be the same thing as a sediment. Yeah, I said. Look that's the only reason what about the taste years taste better than mine. Mind, she should never be judging by appearances though. and. I judge by appearance all time. I don't think so I don't know I. Don't think I like the taste I like the white it full it splashed on the one for Laura. And if. I'm Sabrina Sabrina Day six. Six. I it's. Finished my. Guys. Yeah. There's a lot of sentiment in the bottom. With. Cinnamon than FFOM. It's there to cuddle with you. His cuddle buddy I don't know how I feel about this one. It's good but it's not. But it. Every week. Yes every week air. Welcome to three seconds segments. It's a three. Thank you. See I missed you because of this because. She thinks it's awful. It's a sick. He's at. Least four times twice. So you were trump the other shoe times, you don't remember well, you're going with the three. Yeah because it's good but not good. Yeah. Beer? Master It's Kinda weird taste. It's. Supposed to be like that. It'd be better if it was hazy. Hazy Ip as I just had a conversation with somebody about hazy Ip and we were talking about that and we all agree that it's the training wheel I for people. My favorite day at work when the kitchen manager looked at me being the floor manager and said. Hey. You WanNA drink some beers. So we went to the borrowing drink beer. Your store. I had to. The. Point of the story she drank and IP A. And we did I forget what the other one was. Whatever it doesn't matter looks like grapefruit I have a real interest. Real quick. My daughter left her mask in the car. So I went to the car and opened the car and I got the mascot I went back inside. Interesting smething. While it's Okay, it's fine. I'm just going to rate this a five. It's good traditional. Like the flavor. Good happiness slight little bitterness at the end. Really, good. I enjoyed it. Now, you said the hazy Ip as the training wheels, but yet I feel like the hazy as just kind of starting to really make its rounds on the market is because never really heard of it before now it's the New England style in the hazy thing it's like become the new thing where it's as I was talking to a bartender yesterday he said the hardest part about talking about the whole hazy EPA is trying to say how juicy a beer is because a how you get the flavors. And it's juicier style. And we then started saying how but it's great because people who don't typically drink. IPA's when you say, Hey, it doesn't taste like a normal IP A. Go and they try it and nine hundred ten seemed like it. I'll take the training wheels any day over the stuff. Gimmie those training as he rates this a five or. Whatever this one was pretty good. I really enjoyed the finished because it wasn't that pure hop finish. It's got dryer finish at the end and it was kind of fruity for me and I didn't like that I want all you can do is look at it and you turn off. Yeah, it was weird. Like, when you look at me Three weird. It's your facial hair. That's why yeah I know she's been smoking for. Facial hair and I was like, no matter going to hear the end of that. It's never come off. Were they blind? HOW INSENSITIVE OF US They were not they. Like We were eating. So if you're blind would like to write a Braille Letters. Sabrina. I'll give you the address at the end of the show. I'll give it to you now. I was more concerned with how they sai through your mask, and that was be my question we were sitting in a restaurant. Casts forty two show at G. MEAL Attention crystalline right. Here. All right, we got one more for you from seven sign brewery. Already rated. No it's the head Banger IP A. Really a cigarette drinking beers today. We got two more shows to do before. I don't think those other two we try could be classified as a beers. Forum I had to. At they suck. You don't drink which is why you rate the scale from one to six or beer's taste zero because it was their atlas terrible. Nobody said you ever nobody ever tells you you're? Eight seven, five on the APP it'll be on the spongebob episode if you want investigate. Naggar. This beer is good. So I would easily finish it. Trying trying to get back on track. For once they cuddle buddy rated, right? Yeah. This is the same got. Should add more cookies in between the show I didn't have any cooking in south salsa were also I had lots of those. But apparently not enough, we ate the entire bag. There's seven of us You're telling me there is no more after I have another bag 'cause I plan like that. Because you know US another container. Salsa. CHIPS AND SALSA MINNEAPOLIS RATE Disappear. Ted for dental chips and salsa Which one is this is. Still. Inside. I. Love. It. I like the color of this one. That we used to only see one. Doesn't look like grapefruit. There's nothing in here about grapefruit it just says I know but Sitcom Buddy tasted like grapefruit. Look like grapefruit, this is Tom by SIM. hops, I think I could do like four of these. Four from you yes. Sir. Let's go any particular reason. Why? 'cause she's drunk. It's a Migraine or if it's Sabrina. I got a lot for my husband to. Is that what he's always drunk. Reject. Beer Beer. Yep Are we just leaving it as a four with no explanation from. Trying to share can more so. More show after the. Oh God, I forgot about that. It's GonNa. Be Fun. Got To find out what move breath. Split Top. Am I'm an Irish Soda Bread. Let's be honest. Tall, man No, it's. It's a four borderline five for me like it's Nice. It's it's a nice beer beer. Four from supreme. Like pulling teeth I never had a name. Until she joined the show. I don't know who causes me more stress her or my six year old. In here tossup you're welcome as a for either way they have the same attention committing what? Seven. I'm going to go. Next. It's an Ip a it's your standard Ip. There's nothing special about this one. Again, if you like as you'll probably find it drinkable and under memorable is a four. Three. Or? Wow, we all know I don't like. That's why we picked him. This show is pretty rough to get through on the bare level because we had to. Ip. We don't have any as and it was even rougher. It was I. WHO FAR OUTWEIGHED SPONGEBOB? Yes. This is better than the spongebob. So what I'm hearing Laura is you like as more than some other beers? Correct. I just wanted to get you to admit that you like Ip is that sound bite yeah. Laura, do you like IPA's now better than other beers? anyways, this one I tried after the first one that we had this show that I did not like. This one's not too bad. Actually for an Ip a at finishes. You do get a little bit of that hop at the end a little bitter at the end, but it doesn't linger so. I appreciate that about it I am. I ready for this guy's. Ready to. I'm GONNA give this a three. Oh. Sorry, I'm choking on my beer, which is way higher than I would normally give an IPO that isn't Very Peer Master. You take another SIP for prosperity. For Prostate I. Like to good traditional IP A. No lingering aftertaste nice. Amount of hops in there. I give it a sex. It's like you said, it's a very traditional. Ip. I like it though good flavor. You do get a little bit of lingering on the tongue and palate of like the hops. Overall I love it. So yeah toll sex. All righty well, that went on longer than it should have welcome like reading the Garfield from Hasher it's a four to. Sabrina do you know where they can find us? You can find us on facebook in the official. PODCAST FORTY-TWO FACEBOOK page. On facebook. Find US on facebook is. That's right. 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Part3:NHC 2020 Live from Las Vegas

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1:46:19 hr | 1 year ago

Part3:NHC 2020 Live from Las Vegas

"Form now early days yet things can still change at that. Trend does look like it has a chance of continuing David Snyder with his five million dollar dollar bonus potential if he were to win with that entry seventeen forty cents some work to do there and then Brad Anderson rb the CBC winner his Second Entry Is Okay with thirty to twenty but his three million dollar bonus two dollars eighty cents so We might not have a bona story story to to track. It always happen. How how is it that that just doesn't it? Is it a pressure cooker. Or why do you think it's been so challenging. I think that it's mostly probably random but I think it probably is a little bit of potentially a little bit of panic to. We've we've seen. We've we've talked to dave good freund when he was playing for it. I guess that was just last year and I did sound like He. You felt like when he was looking back at it he may be got in his head a little bit baby effect that a few things and he did get up off the floor and make a run on day two. It was not happy at the end of day one so I do think it's mostly random is one of these years and it could even still be this year make no mistake. We'll get a really fun. Bonus story sorry to follow but it is also possible that the that one's going to go away by the middle of the day Tamar I know we're we're still trying to find a champion to win twice. Yes I mean there's been never been a two-time winner very very difficult to have a big run super difficult. We have seen a of past winter. Make AK- final table. We're seeing Ray arsenault now up on the leaderboard that'll be fun to follow Stanley Babylon not too far behind that is. That's the story more than the bonus story. The story I want to do is the time the two time. Winner Steve Wolfson. I guess is came ridiculously. Close winning back right away and then And then running second the other the year so we did we did get the follow that all the way to all the way to the end or nearly Hanging hanging Paul. Paul Dominic. WanNa come chat for a minute. He's looking picture. You have all your pets in. Don't sit down and work so is is that that the two lanes sweatshirt the one sweater t shirts on. Is that the famous Tulane sweater. That is g shirt that is your good luck charm. Yes is it working today. Yeah I guess so. I tried a new strategy with one ticket and You know those two bombs probably knocked me out but it was on the bubble okay for a while you know like a fifty dollars or something or forty so basically. That's an th that was five two twos and two two ones and three two ones that I just put in the first thing and the other tickets blanks we were talking a lot. ABOU- Golden Gate and synthetic and that potentially being an ended advantage on a day like today. Where with the East Coast tracks diluted that a player who plays woodbine might would have a little bit of an edge in terms of familiarity with golden gates? And all I can't I can't I can't six. I don't follow Golden Gate at all that plays the same or you know. So what are the factors for you in synthetic handicapping that are different than betting dirt or turf that it's it's basically a fair surface. Most of the time I I just hate factoring bias into every a lot of players look players that big money do it and you're the second person to say that on so I don't really care villas fair every day. Hey would you know I i. I'll be fine. I'll be more than fine. Just don't give me a don't want to buy it. I don't want that horse. I've been waiting for to get over Beca it's plain speeder. Her closers and you feel like sent generally speaking fairer than than any the surface woodbine house right now. The previous one the poly all tracks they had it was basically the opposite of a dirt track. It was seven white closers all day and all night you know and I think keeneland had the same track and and that one was blowing at their backs in the lane just handicap. The last two so the new the new surface. It's it's everything is just most days. I don't even pay attention to the bias like I don't even keep them for the for the synthetic I wouldn't mind your thoughts on the new Woodbine Turf Horse. Did you play much of it last year. You're looking forward to it this year. Yeah I was playing playing it. It was all right but you know I just. I snuck on a couple of times after rains jeans and seem pretty hard but I'm no track specialists or anything right and even more important. I didn't run a horse on it and and I have someone who's doing an indepth study good handicapper. That has nothing more time than I and he goes. You want me to do something. You only woodby right because women do something over the winter some stat I will. Yeah tell me how the horses coming off the inner turf races I would mind. How did they can come with a number you know how did they all come back overall? was there a trend very interesting. I think I think there is one. But that's just kind of thinking about a day to day meeting. You WANNA share. Sorry you WanNa share your theory on what you with your hypothesis really. Yeah yeah talk more about that goes on. How's the summer How's The wicker down in Florida? It started off badly. I spent the first five days in the hospital. Oh my God At Idiots a Toronto airport made me take my cat out of the bag right then. Don't break my balls on twitter or some please guys but this poor cat security yelled let me to take it up like twice so I took it out of holding her and she's neurotic and she. She was fine and then she looked around and she started just sunk into my hand three times. I'm gushing catcher at the other end of the airport under so my something. She bit me again and I find it locked and she went in the age and we got infected off five days. I five days in Florida. I've been to a hospital. It's not good. KNOCK GINA recover. Okay yeah it's almost the middle finger kind of locked in the morning. It's like tendon thing. But no offense Tommy but I was more worried about the cat. My Cat's great now. Because you know what's she's really scared of everything but in my backyard. There's this manmade lakes it and there's squirrels and little lizard big lizards which ducts with Whitehead's and. She just stares at the window imagine murdering them all. Today's nine to one shot is going to be second and Faisal watched shot two to five or three to five is going to go down Royal insider for Steve Leave NAP with Yego. Pierra is five to one at twelve dollar winter and the nine to one that looked like Who did all the hard work? And I gotTa tell you that horse the five Kyle L. More the Gary student that went to its nose out of the gate and so that was a tremendous effort by the five nine to one and a lot of people. The yelling presumably more nine to one and the winner but option plays dwindling. I'm sure a lot of people participating there. How many places do you have left timing? I don't know how many are alive. But they're all in I'm done for the day. You put them all in early. I one ticket all in once. I got the scratches and and had to go to change the law races. I A couple of Laurel races. They were censored by the way who you. If if it's not you in this tournament who you rooting for Justin. Do two dollar ticket on them so for anyone. So Ray Arsenault was up there doing pretty well you sitting with him. You sitting with Toronto. No no no no no. Where are you with well stocked around? I'm trying right you know. I don't want to bug the Toronto guys side. Saw Tony's I'll share so I know probably till four o'clock I'm going to have all the allegra shows up. He's been bouncing around here. Don't he's been beside me and where you know. We talked for a while. Once razor started perfect guy to sit next to He's he says the same thing about me because I can really start talking and you know I'm so like today I was ready. I had nothing to do but you know handicapping to do just a little bit thinking so I was read. I've been ready for the last few days right so I can sit there and talk talk all day tomorrow. It's a different than how excited are you for the Breeders Cup betting challenge to be back at Keeneland this year. The site of your great victory. Oh Yeah just to get. Even though it's a a two day trip just just to be able to go to keeneland three times in the year instead of two I want something. It's your home away away from home in many ways. What do you like about Cain lintels? I don't know I just I don't have always hated. Going to places that are crowded compan- no one likes to hang around about drunk and you go to a place where everyone is drinking. The odds are so the first time I went there. I never had. Everybody was just one thirty. Everyone around these hammered right and and it was never problem. You know what I'm just saying. Okay so I got over that then just just got to relax. Don't they. Don't relax and then the money. I want like heroin. Never mind. Relax relax you subtle make you want to. I don't know what it is. I feel magic every time I go there now. What whether it's getting see people get the C. France but I'm real sweeping? Don't sleep for a week before the because I going to go there and kill him ears feeling. What what what what? I'm confident I don't sleep. I asked Jim Goodman what he thought. The connection between you and your success excess there and he cited confidence. He said you feel he feels like no horse. Blair is more confident than Tommy. Massa Keelan do you think that's right or are you that confident I've I've won every way possible team Lynn's got back to the hotel room then even though I wanna catch twenty four thousand because my horse was scratched and I got the favourite and a big war all kinds the stuff like that. They were watching as executive branches Even money winner Chad. The one four four seventy two so no help in the nightcap at Oaklawn for anybody really I mean unless you're just for some reason how to play left and decided to get involved but unlikely to shake things up the way we've seen we should be due for new leaderboard fairly soon. Well we just saw John Kosten. John Walked by. He's got royal insider. The Steve knapp Napa Winter Nineteen dollars combined and so a nice little boost for him and we'll look forward now to the Santa Anita This will be excuse me the seven. I should say we already had the cows come up with the winners back to where exactly right now. We're looking ahead head to the seventh and our. We have two more mandatory as things have just whistle by the this. Oh and by the way actually Casey. I'm sorry Casey asked me a break break an hour ago. We just ran through two hours since the last break unbelievable. Let's take the break here. So the Casey Chop up the segments on the website site. We're coming to you live from bally's Tommy masses. The Hammer is with us and look so distinguished with the with the glasses blesses. My aunt calls me the Macedonian George Hamilton back after the apparitions with Steve on Sirius Sirius. XM radio develop by horsemen horse. 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XM Radio uh-huh the we're back on the music is playing but PEOP- compete nine headed to the metro and rich was saying hello to somebody and I ran into Andy Burg and and and he started to talk to me speaking of music music. I got some comments on the music that was playing on the feed before you came on today and I couldn't I couldn't remember first of all was super positive about The quality of the music but it was it specifically. It was about the GIN and juice bluegrass cover. Who's that WHO's the artists on? Yes and Casey and I have been. That's that's that is that plays haven't really used it. We haven't used it In show but it plays as we have a K.. Cases got a pre show and kind of OPPO show tape and I'm and I found it originally. I want to say say case. He'll tell me a second. I completely forget I founded years ago and I said I knew because I knew case with would go crazy. And he'll give him a second. I forget who it is but it is. It's awesome pro player Sean. Bormann was very excited about hearing it and said you know if for you if we need to take a break we could just play that again. The GOURDS gourds. Yes the Gorz. Yes there it is thank you. Thanks case Steve Out to make the suggestion to you in DC. And the Pete some of the interviews that you just had here with those people when when you when you put together a Like a best Delvin love and taking a day off but if if you could cut off as some of those interviews man oh man tremendous tremendous interviews well and it's funny. Elite people seem to love the coverage from here and at the same time when I when I run. When I'm off like we'd have I especially especially the June July break? My tendency is to run. You know at either final table Sunday Sunday tape or you know whatever and people say. Oh it's boring to listen to contest. It's not interesting. What do you mean it's not interesting? Are you not interested in the kinds of people because we're not just talking about the I mean we talk strategy but what about everything else that gets it gets discussed and incites set approach and tools and I. I'm I'm surprised when I when I hear that from some people. I'm surprised I I would say for for example Roxy Interview with with you folks if he was a paid consultant at a gaming conference he pipe big money for a lot of the stuff he talked about hundred eight percent. If you if the quality of guess we've had nothing that we've done but the quality of guests we've had today yourself included rich if you can't learn something and be entertained by by them. I can't help you well. Here's a compliment as somebody. That's enjoying the show. Our partner in the horses. Steve Garland checking in listening listening on the beach and Costa Rica. Oh now that's how it's done that's how it's done right. Not so bad not so bad. It feels like some people have left Steve. I'm looking at the crowd is thinning out here for some people they put in there too they must there's still to Mandatory so they must have made their mandatory plays and they're gonNA go watch it from their roots dangerous because of you know late scratches and whatnot agreed agree. Maybe they're close enough. They think they can get back here. I don't know TQ. Tom Quickly walking by. He gives us the mets quickly quickly. It criticised rocking the trademark aloha shirt and looking really good quick you put in their Their last mandatory about a half hour ago Oh and then went up to the room and took a nap and say they were like in Fifteenth Place. If they take a look at the standings at the end of the day they might be fiftieth. I mean there's there's a lot going on is coming. Well we've got a full field coming up a seven to five favorite for Peter Miller for the Rosen's going to vegas going to Vegas. How about that seventy five here? In the seventh race at Santa Anita let's handicap this and how about how about ELISSA WITH I. I saw her daughter. It's gotta be your daughter Right. It uh it would appear that way on the feet Making a giggly appearance. And what's the secret of we're going to hear here from Christina Oliveras blacker tomorrow and What's the secret all these quarter horse trainers marrying up marrying up the TV the to go become a quarter horse trainer to Landa Right TV? They become an unbelievable. It's unbelievable looking ahead to this seven. Here it is. It's a maiden eighteen. Seventy five going a mile on the grass and fielded nine quick A quick glance. Let's look at this field. Doug O'Neill stretching out violent speed of violence philly for great friends racing Out there and you're looking get a twenty one to one third career start. Hasn't done a lot to recommend her as of yet Flamingo Bay. An Irish bred the holy Roman Empire for an an and May Her brother or brother. Her husband is a bloodstock agent mail Mail Lloyd I think right they eloy. Male Loyd is I think the partnership this is another try sources over five got one the show performance newtown or stunned actually actually bread and thirty two one four two one on wine at sunset a second time starter. Eric Cruel Jack and by the way earlier one of those nights so I think one of the Nice Prices Matthew recently and that is the. It's not respectively. It's not the kid road on the East Coast. This is the the the the veteran or is young. But he's still a veteran who wrote in Hong Kong. And it's reese Poli Reese Poli reese he's like like reese Poli Poli Walk Poly. Rose Reese Poli is how you pronounce that I got that directly from Mir Ahmadi. So it's gotta ought to be right now. He was master of pronunciation. Eric Rule Jack is using him to great great success He's getting a lot of good mounts but cruel cruel Jacko's with Mike Smith in this spot Wine at sunset. And you're looking at four to one off of a ten to one morning. Line Cosmic cowgirl Ritchie. She bought this for sage racing and partners. She is with responded and eight to one here and Rosario Road last time This one is moving to the grass with Malibu Moon out of a yes. It's true mare bred by casselton lions. I give up the five Hector Palma seventy-two With the Pierra puts the blinkers on. Lucia's design Craig Lewis. WHO's won four races here the first COUPLE COUPLE OF MONTHS COMING OFF. A bullet work says two one then. Some prices thirty five to one on heat the storm Turkish Angel with Jose. Valdivia Junior. I I love you. More mean Michael McCarthy going back to the grass after a trip to Golden Gate was actually a decent third in their up at the s African and thirty thirty eight to one and then three two two on going to vegas who is over six but four seconds. Isn't that a career. Megan might might just might just have have that look about it. Maybe an interesting place to try price against this favourite despite the hunch play name. Golden Gate is in the gate and the eight after this will will be the last of the mandatory and there's only three races left on the day for everybody and looking here at a field of eight. You've got got an eight to five favorite brother Chichi. Oh and You've got to shot seven or stone grow for Tim. The Cana trying to win his second of the afternoon looking for the quickfire double up there at Golden Gate keeping an eye. There is my man. How you you doing John Lennon Netco Louis up there we go John Nichols having himself day up into fifteen place as I think he was about ninety five dollars turning for home and every raise the golden gate like like you said they all live across the top of the typical poly track? It's unbelievable this quite a Finnish Bali track. Did you play here now Now the two wars eight to five favorite and here comes five to one inside three seven one shot as typical polly chaos. You have eight horses. Assist seven of the eight were separated by a like the corner. That was a crazy craziness. I look at the three Gallup out. This is Juan Hernandez aboard for Dan. Marky seventy one. Dan markel a smiling tiger four year old gelding and this is a nice mutual. Sixteen dollar winner John. Talk About Your Day Got Lucky early. In the day with the off the grass race at Gulfstream started looking at the race and really didn't like anything now went back again. I looked at the force a little bit in the pocket. Lopez like the rider changed him and the mayor or the Horse three times I start on the dirt that well really took a little money. Came back around on the grass twice and didn't run a separately. I got to look and I said this horse bred for the dirt and mud Justin Adjusted Philip Philip out of the. I can't remember kind of Mary was the thunder Gulch. Maher is mud on mud. I thought so I took a shot with him actually better my pocket too so that paid eight thirty four dollars. Four dollars Just Andy Berg from dumpster and the ad that horses and then got a brutal be huge double chickens double ticket. These live for fifty fifty grand opening of those of you who don't think the contest players are betting. There's your answer after that after that I had the Saint Lawrence Gulfstream and other than that. I just grinding it out. What how how how you approach mandatory? Yeah I'm not the kind. I don't go reach for bombs until I have two of them. I mean I'm more logical player. I go look for value and everything. Thank but if I'm still said okay I don't go out just play. Twenty two one demand worry. Just play twenty two once. I'm GonNa take a horse alike or horse. I'm going to actually play the race right. Actually using a gimmick bet him to win but I'd use them in the gimmicks next. What was your goal coming into today? John One hundred dollars ninety Already Pomona next to you. Plays in our no what I'm got so you have a and you're you're done with the optional. Yeah so you just got the two dettori left. We got a top of the hour or about eight minutes away from the Santa Anita seven and then now the nightcap at Golden Gate actually these are both nightcaps right where does golden gate has one more after the nine altogether nine racecar interesting so there will be hanging around for that. I guess. Yeah we'll get we'll we'll have a we'll have the leaderboard going into the day. Let's got eight minutes Decapa how we just shot on the three. Didn't know I figure Mike Smith ride had them the first race English Channel stretching out. He's taking money now other than that. That's that's the only way I could really come with. It might offer offer little value. But he's been better off the board kind of good sign. I brought up the fact that cruel Jack has been writing recently in you know a lot of a lot of resources and so I thought also that the Mike The the Mike Smith was a bit of a was a bit of a flare. I mean if I wouldn't up close right now I wouldn't know if I'd go. Forty four to one. I'd go for something else in the Stabat but this is where I'm at now I've gotTa take him this play logical. How's the rest of the table doing over there? Francis Francis Truth and sixteenth. He's in there he's he's the table next week. With the Matisse Jesse's in my table he's right up there right now we've got the bet with our table able Jonathan Blake Jesse all of us against the HR table US head to head scores. And go you're looking pretty good right now What what what everybody on the on the on the hook for one hundred and fifty nice like twelve hundred altogether? It's a fun idea that he'd on the other competition. I don't know if it's a table to table but it's kind of fun. The ten strike a partnership and the Little Red Feather partnership have a little bit of a head to head going. I think they did it a little bit different different. They're GONNA do like best three scores or something. And there's a charitable element to that one as well so it's kind of fun. The all the competition Titian within the main contest and then tables amongst themselves and entities amongst themselves as well. You have a pretty good record in that head to head against the bay chocks don't you. I wouldn't involved. Yeah I was always on the Mideast table and they were the table next to us but I know they won the last two years. Insure I love what what's been the dining. You've been here a week you almost a week. Yeah we're going to the steakhouse here in the Tonight Look Nicer. Pete and I went to uh-huh tire restaurant the other night today last year. Last yesterday I was worn out early on when a lunch date. Any fog eating at night here here that I know the feeling feeling what What how much work have you done for tomorrow? And I've looked at about five tracks already. I'm already gone through the preliminary stuff and I'll finish up in the morning. You keep on east coast time this morning at three o'clock Vegas time which is six nine slave their toy for five o'clock vegas time it'd be eight lifetime well at home at home you're churchill by duet ten five. I get there. I'm there. Track them down there at five o'clock just like Mardi Mardi gave me. I've seen he's beaming there once. I think I've seen their one night though when we're still on the old press box when I was a great story Marty. Don't don't cuss me. That much. But but This one we were still in the press box Derby Week and he's now go during the break. I walked back the restroom back in the back of the book I looked down the press frozen. The lack they had the whole road where the press during the Derby and there's Mardi laying on the floor and Indians curled up in a ball talking more during the break always taking a break so fast fast none other. He's he's Tampa What Speaking of which what what. What your impressions here about? How are you? You're not gonNA go anywhere now. Visits more for a week or so. It was like to have a little time off. I go nonstop from. I'll start at Keelan at the end of March and I'll go pretty much seven days a week in a few days off here and there till the end of November who suppressing ring as we get Kinda Roland now nobody really I mean I don't I don't get too excited about him. This early in the year to me horses too much contained with a horse between now and then and I just want to go into the race so now I just don't I don't fall. I've I've gotten to where I don't fall in love with anybody. Now who's who's Jake like I don't know he was. He was going back. He called me last week and he was headed back to Louisville after the draw on Saturday to see his girlfriend. I guess and he's been so busy. Now it'd be Allie. He's gamble is needed for channing. Hill and Joe Talamo. I mean it's like a real working. You never thought you'd see what the kid growing up. He's all grown up. It's unbelievable to funny. We're talking about Jake Romans of course Who who John? Who Harasses John for winners for as long as I know that I've known him since I was a kid and his grandmother? TAMMY's Mommy's actually babysitting me when I was a kid so I kind of feel bad for you gotta look out from a little bit but aw he used to hang out the track with all these guys. It's when actually go the track. Every day be down by the paddock. He was like nine or ten. You come running up this to see who I liked. And we'd watch him. Go Run off until these other guys. He's big betters and everything. So was there one day he comes up one day. I'll look at them. They're shake my head. He goes over to Winfrey Winfrey pulls kick it off. Pocket flashes. Adam J goes run off little say that was a losing ticket. Merlin a day. It was random number on it so they kind of learned after that the next time you talk to jake asking me all that storage straight too funny too funny body they're heading onto the turf course And have the odds moved at all. No Not really twenty five to one and thirty two one for the inside runners that violent speeding beedon flamingo bay. John's worts the four three is four to one wine at sunset. The cruel jacket Mike Schmidt six to one cosmic out girl Maltese. A couple of nine to two shots money spread out here. Five a horse I give up a Becker Palmer. I mean this this going to vegas doesn't this is a horse. That's been second. Four time had the worst marks of a play the right for yeah exactly right. I mean you don't WanNa bet this so you don't want them actually GonNa have golden gate the worst. I took stretch between now. Oh goodness well. I'm glad we flagged you down. Go back to the room one to five shot now in in in that Golden Gate Eighth. Now that's unfortunate. Wow Mandela Mandela. Sent the Horse Up to got horse up Golden Gate after. Take a look just on principle. That's GonNa try to beat. You gotTA wonder five and a three to two. So let's see what happens as they load them up going to Vegas now seven to five. And I know Steve I ran up real money on the four pocket cosmic cowgirl cosmic cowgirl or Rich and wind at sunset for John. Frank Mir Ahmadi giving the The contest the shout out participants this is a maiden claiming seventy five thousand dollar maidens going a mile in the grass Cubans This is Greg. Shout out for the Love Groove Leo Rich James Leo Fluorine Fluorine. Sima not sure. Who else is in that group of there? They're all able they do of course take you there you go. There's the there's there's the five of them there's the table there is the table. The leaderboard continues to roll. They're giving us a double uh a double look and they're promising a Breath update after After this as we just click past seven o'clock doc. This has been the fastest Friday yet and we thought with with some of the difficulties. It was going to be tough here we go. Let's listen to Frank Mira Monte. The second last mandatory day this out of the gate violent speed along inside is very prominent by give up also up close with cosmic cowgirl taking third there followed by three go racing inside all of you more is designed why that subset of the distant trailer is Turkish Angel. I turn it's violent speed in front by go into data for big obey the rail conflict cowgill between three one. Three of the kids that it's all if you talk to design when at sunset and the distance to Turkish Angel Jordan while Polston violence speed we there live from Vegas second I give up to their outside next the cowgirl two and a half ranks you decide it inside. Libya board is for the bill to war to sunset and Turkish Angel. This trend through you go into Vegas takes around the form germ violence speeds second this. It took tame seems to please the champion scare business. He seems designed was sensitive. It sets in completes the assuming well. There's a maiden breaker at took seven tries. And I I Jon. Your Mike Smith was standing up going onto the back stretch and didn't ask for a thing that was that was. I didn't get slow paced. Who there's no passing there? It didn't Jerry Jenny Reese they can Getting the getting a little little Kentucky Kentucky Anna going so sixty-five winner and the six four to one so no real You know modest takeover now steve power right and that gets us through the night nightcap and seem to remember you're GonNa Handicap again. John it's going to look back at it and it was nine six five eight and and three nine six five eight three the nightcap you money in Santa Anita so we've got to racist left to on the race day Dave Golden Gate's eighth and ninth haven't looked at the nine yet but three. What do we know that that we'll have a look right here? That's right 'cause that's it for Santa. So we're we're and then there were two you can use the last race as a four thousand dollar claim to eight horses. Signed up for that one would manager the two to one favorite Jonathan Walk so people will be trying to beat. Jonathan one needs to release the next one race. Eight coming up in ten minutes. I would imagine a lot of people's Day. We'll be wrapping with this Mandatory in Christian hellmers sitting at eight hundred eleven and everybody. Everybody needs to go blindly. Hit a number back spin the wheel. RANDOM NUMBER DOT ORG number one through you John. Thanks Nichols everybody One of our favorite people around the country when and We're doing our thing. And the two weeks we get to spend John so accommodating to the invasion of his of his private sanctuary Mary He Don Winfrey and Beat vestal they're up there by themselves and and Oh my Gosh Barest the the recording the recording numbers we are but say hi rich resnick. How're you actually grab that preppy grabbing the and here's Jay Jay French wonderful full experience? You have to talk about it. It's a much different experience than going to the track with your friends You have to be physical Shrink Pink Siren at Sire. This really and I hope we can get him next year. What the your your next next year? What's going on this year? You're in trouble radio. I'm hanging in there. Somewhere in the low sixties. I haven't seen well. That's that's that's not bad. That's nothing wrong with that shortly today. It's four dollars. Yeah so just sixty dollars now and I think the last where he said Golden Gate's pretty wide open the the nightcap not not the mandatory take this one Are you going to try to end mandatory. I was not gonNA play boys. Wow this is okay so this is a starter allowance. I have not looked at this rate. She had thought on the Thurber of sheets. It was a very close race is interesting at and let's you're my third graph the user of the day and talk a little bit about the. When did you when did you discover Jerry Jerry for Scary about thirty years. Twenty five years. I remember when she's written on small five by seven graph graph paper and when we went to Saratoga we would pick it up at the diner when the bus came in. That's so They knock the building down. The dog also swims with the Fisher House. What it it's gone and I think it's a it's a wonderful product? And she's become a he's become a friend and this is terrific. This is terrific. How did you qualify I won A feeder and then a qualifier one of the twenty seven dollars one hundred sixty five dollars and were in great horse racing stories it was a twelve race qualifier and in the last race was picking prey which I think is terrific and in the last race I had a twenty two to one shot. Just please don't ask me if I made a bet on it because I the answer is no I was twenty eight dollars behind the winner and then My wife is screaming out in Iowa. So that's great this as a small bucket list item for and of course in the Pan and the pick and pray that you you pick that horse in the last race you really liked it that was. I don't have that opportunity. Just reach for prices. That frustrates people in the live format prior people picking it just because they can do math. And that's that's the event they need can pray. You set your own line and you can't just take a stab. Yes I've read your book twice. Oh No that's awesome. Thank you and I listened to your father when I was asked. Where did you From Manhattan Bronx Broom. We're at McKinsey Manhattan. Which were dad was from his dad's family there? That's very cool. It's always great to get a chance to talk about him. And you know I always make joke when you when you were a fan Dan. You let me know you're a fan of my father immediately. Know three things about you. I'm old great musical taste of a certain age. No doubt no doubt very very cool. Well that's good to see everybody and keep doing good work. Rats are that's our obligation. It's our it's our mission and delighted that you get here and How much work have you done for tomorrow? Well I took a quick look at the mandatory my daughter and granddaughter flew in from La to be here and go out to dinner tonight. And I suspect I'll have my usual solid twenty three hours sleep and down here three thirty thirty tomorrow morning whatever. Hopefully the weather will be good for everybody. It can knock out what it looks. I have on fairgrounds grass racing. I spent a lot of time on them. Didn't that a nickel off the turf races. Everyone's in the same boat right absolutely absolutely thanks. That was great. Thanks rich resnick and one of one of Jerry's kids as I like because all of us that That are that are disciples of Jerry Brown always good to bring in that star graph after user perspective and served in pretty well today. That's not a bad spot to be in as we approach the today one obviously tons of work to do tomorrow but I would say you know if you can get a number close to that holding serve total. I'd be feeling pretty good about that. WE'VE GOTTA GET WE'VE GOTTA get What is going one on there? We go We gotta get hold of get Ahold of Michelle or or Keith. We gotta find out the leader of the inventors be willing to find out what about this. I don't know I do is. Hopefully I mean very very likely to be the leader at the end of day once Hopefully they'll be digging. Do they did. They do the booklet this year that we have a yes. But it's if you didn't like basic is because he didn't qualify insulate Gotcha goes through December. Okay well let's take a look and see I'll see if they can find about our our leaders while you go on the Well you go on the mission there's We've got three minutes to this last mandatory Golden Game here is the this is interesting. They player profiles. Yeah there's a ton of information this buck lately we. We're drawing live to find something interesting out here rich. Did you look at this golden gate forest to the favorite Horse interesting little bit. One was three tall. He's only two to one in the bedding right now. The other one is a little more price was the four it. It was really woke up with a huge huge race last time out as a million Bentley Norsk repeat every repeats outrages. She's actually got a pretty good shot from trouble before is eight to one right now. Drift out on that favorite out to three to five live and I would think this potentially get some people yelling especially in this favorite dozen fire some pleasing prices on the Lord some folks GonNa GonNa look to try to get back in this thing. Hurry as we approach our last mandatory race it appears that now being j benton qualified after after the deadline to put the book together because his name is not listed in there so no help from his book. The Miss Yeah we like Men and women of a mystery in this tournament. So we'll we'll get the skinny before too. Long Steve's off on a fact finding mission Somewhere I have have a somewhere I have a list of where people are sitting. That might offer a clue as well we we can go. We can go to the horse's mouth as it were but I'm pretty sure what happened in terms of building. That impressive leading total is must have had those quick fire cap horses thinking he must have had both of them so that was a good. Yeah that's the quickest way to get to the top Cap Cap Cap. Take a look here. one minute to post now at Golden Gate two races remain and oh we might have our man here we do. That was impressive. Steve Holly that was Halley Short. Got That so we were speculating. Albion as to how you built your big total did you have those quick fire cap horses. Interro what was that experience like coming up with those two and having that all happened within such a short period of time. Unbelievable unbelievable will it. Just put me in a position where I can manipulate. What do the rest of the way? Let's I can't let let's catch up up on on your background. It's your first time. Yes yeah did you qualify for qualified on horse players. I got really really hot in August. I I just started rolling after the four day and then just going from there and am I ended up getting bailed out with junior Alvarado in the last race Saratoga. Talking one day he had the news on the eleven hoist and he was seventy one and he got there for me and I walked over twenty people to get in amazing. Or are you a New York area. Guy New Hampshire. Oh New Hampshire very nice very nice and how long you been involved in racing. I've been since about two thousand one mile alkyl owns racehorses These take me rocking apart and definitely need to play the sport I love it. It's great unbelievable animals most they they're athletes. They really how how did you. How did you get pulled toward the contest side Well believe it or not. I watch I watch that show that it was first players actually came in from that and I said you know what I think I can do this and then I was talking to the life and I'm like I think you know if actually sleet devoted some time to this actually be pretty good because I worked three jobs so this is what is your profession. I work at Walmart at their a distribution center. I'M GONNA unload their I worked for my buddies cleaning company and Believe it or not I still deliver pizzas to this day. That's been there twenty three years so that's right. Where do you find time to play the horses with that schedule even or not? I put it all in before the pick and praying to pray realistically. That's amazing and you play a lot of the feeders and things like that Yeah I played most of them. MM-HMM for me. It's pretty much Friday Saturday. Sunday for me is the only time I really free chance but when overtime comes back at work you know what I mean I just put it in and go to work. I'm sure it's a blur but what do you remember about what you liked about those big price winners. You had today while I just love how they both sat awesome trips and and you know they. They came right growing needed him late and they just held on delay which is which is awesome for me handicapping methods and a tools computers algorithm name. Mary Kate and I just run through. Stop the rams. orbs words have a program that commercial staffer proprietary thing I got him through a buddy of mine who works pretty interesting and yeah hey gives me shots anyways keeps me in there and you know whatever happens tomorrow happens today and so in in some ways. You're basically you're basically just picking winners off of us. There isn't that too but I but in terms herbs of but in terms of the format as opposed to as opposed to playing. You know playing cash money how you know. How does the the wind place format format? He'll fit into your approach It's great because I know I have lied bombs. I just have to wait for him. You know what I mean. And that's one of those things. Thanks I I was sitting on lease it. I missed a horse earlier. Gulfstream four horse ended up winning dollars. Voice I just haven't got them. What did you hear this mandatory Three US I just think they had the had the trip he added ozone way. He's still can win. So I the three who had a little bit of trouble and a strip irrefutable myron older today three two one now. Nah then you can do four to five on the Mandela Klondike Creek. Gio Ponti a seven year old. Run down the one voice in fourteen. The one mad at money The Ray Bell Twelve to one shot. And then you've got Electoral that Alvian is taken to irrefutable. The Board is seven two one five stretch choline six is sixteen and the outsiders American thirty five to one as they're ready to go. Here's Matt Bittermann. Take your has a clear. Lead appears to be going beyond their ouster agreement with track tasted second the second lease recruitment and he's very again in the data from reading in the rear end of office. Leader sloughs things down the next link behind a bit closer that sick Zeeshan American prince third leader role going pretty right now green green as the seven runners. We're sick reading still bye-bye bad apple. Irrefutable again insisted re-instill showing the link Shuli Snack position. BURPING troop hits the Third America's neck. Listen recall seriously. You repeatedly trying to steal reclusive doing ninety ninety three take command on doing well even money with her. You could just hear the air go out of the room in the last. That's fifty yards there. When it became clear the chalk was going to get there? A lot of people had the longtime leader. You look good for second there. He just it didn't find well and and it's funny because Anthony. Georgie was sitting still. I mean he was. He didn't didn't. That's that's what I thought too swell glance here waiting these numbers you gotta you gotTa turn that air. We go little little committee. I'm the only one wearing a headset and Dinner was blaring through hundred. Seventy eight forty You'll you'll finish for the day and The the closest pursuer is twenty five dollars. Back that's John Bale who was the first the first leaderboard update of Of the day He was on top so he that he kind of floated down and floated back up so probably twenty dollar plus lead the going into Saturday. The perfect awesome. What will you have to change game plan for tomorrow? It'll be editing. Just pick winners and you seem very comfortable at the high end of the of the odds versatile obviously in the mandatory there at a a five to two shopping seems like your preferences to reach the longer while the funding is so my buddy is is that you know going through this I i. I'm very very restricted and contests races. This is the first time I've been able to just take playoffs in play. Would I want That's interesting so good point. Did you do anything special to prepare for. That applies valid six hours. After I sat on the tarmac for two hours took a six hour flights it ended up being eight hours as wired for sound when I got into now. It's just go back at it. I got so many races to look at you. Got To try and find what is logical for a priceless. What's your goal at this tournament? My goal is forget around two thirty ready for tomorrow but obviously we're we've done very very good so I put myself in positions firm all I would have loved to be here Sunday to play for Sunday. The man upstairs us we do that. Keep finding horses like you did today. You're going to be Withdraw and live to win the whole darn thing Melendez Coletta today take care of itself and move on tomorrow and just keep going. I love this is a tremendous restaurant. What's the rest of the night? Hold I think I know the answer. Yeah think it'll be merryman government governments leaving God speed man. Thank you for coming by. Welcome guys Albania. Benton tremendous best tomorrow. Cheers Buddy Golsby. How great is this and About as the media media's over that this is Chris Little more story yes it could be to go. You know a a real proper rapper force players horse player comes here. Gets the shot gets hot shoots to the lead. We'll see we'll see if we can keep it going like Chris little more it working three jobs mason. That's that was a real working man when these -cation yeah shots dot Gov awesome. That's great My friend Vince Stevedore Vince is asking. What's the day money I think the day money is ten thousand thousand? It's the BBC entry. Okay I think you get an entry so very likely. We don't a jinx the poor man and he could happen. I suppose in the last but he's looking very very. Are you good looking to get that day money about that. And he's got he's got them he's got jenny receives got the Frank A thanks recording and The press will be rooting very heavily for for for not a big upset. EXAC Jack exactly the deal being motion and then also have to interview somebody else it. Let's take a look at and we got a nice. We got a nice opening here here in our last. Probably half hour of coverage We Are we're GONNA hit it right at eight o'clock it looks like Let's scroll through and Hit some of the names and and see where things stand that obviously that mandatory is not going to move anything to know for the most part But the Albion Benton one seventy eight forty as I mentioned John Vail One fifty three twenty. John Fail a good story. uh-huh hot early hot late and one fifty three twenty there Brian Sullivan in third with one thirty four twenty trae styles. NHCD Hall of Famer fifteen plus qualifications for this event. I'm not sure what is best finishes but He's doing great today and thirty. Two Robert childress in fifth at one. Twenty six forty at Peter's Pantini from the Derby Trail Forum one twenty-one twenty best finish in a contest so far a second at the Breeders Cup betting challenge looking to better that here in this mythical money three day format seventh Robert Magneti one twenty sixty former champion. Ray Arsenault arsenault in eighth right now. One Seventeen Sixty Sean. o'malley in ninth at one Sixteen Melissa Margolis top rated female player at the moment. One fourteen eighteen sixty darren. I'm having trouble reading that name from this angle. Looks like spelled J. Guys Geilo or Gilo. One twelve forty Christian hellmers walking right bias. There known more for his live prowess but finished something like eleventh or twelfth. This event last year has got to be happy with one hundred and eleven twenty. He's got Michael Murphy and Lucky Thirteenth at one hundred ten George Bryant Fourteenth One zero eight forty William Holmes Fifteenth One. Oh seven forty todd far or open up their much of the day one oh six eighty Michael Otari co one. Oh six twenty. In Seventh Place John Fisher a very well known and well regarded regarded contest. Player dances all the dances one. Oh five sixty fisher. One of the many players looking for his signature win might get it here. Who knows James Morgan? We started out the day with two entries in the top ten keeps one of them in the top twenty by day's end here probably with one zero five forty. There's another name it just the the angle. Some of the letters others run together. And I don't want to put your somebody's name that you take one jerry philosophy rounds out the top twenty one hundred and five. Some names We talked earlier with John. Kosten John Sitting sitting nicely at twenty second out terrific to twenty Rick Broth last year's Katie winner. WHO's had a lot of high up results? He's keeneland winner in the past. Two One oh one sixty John Farrar one hundred twenty. Stephanie Davis with an even hundred Russell Weber also in that century club. There's here's Bill Schanberg Ninety seven twenty and The other Morgan entry and see their and thirty third. So he's he's in very good shape. John Don Nickles and we talked to ninety four twenty sitting now tied for thirty seven kind of push down a little bit from the fifteen the his highest the slot. Stanley Stanley babble issue did have a lead for a moment. Ninety two forty. He hasn't really moved since we talked to him. No but that's That's fine I think you know if you're ninety or higher here feel really good going into Going in today's to Blake Jesse we talked about earlier. Ninety one sixty trader Mike Denney. I didn't realize that one six genie was in my city. Ninety one sixty Bill Sherman. WHO said he'll talk to us tomorrow? I like it he was going to. He was take pass until tomorrow. Ninety one bucks. The the the the sibling rivalry could get interesting brother. Paul of course has three top ten finishes in the history of this event. He's a past tour winner of second. Nobody's got a resume like him. William Sherman Bill Sherman as we call them looking to another looking for that signature. Victory to move things along how `bout the scandals That of course. We're the point of contention the contest. Gillian queued via the beard. Rule for that appearance but has another entry apparently and doing quite well. Stephanie Davis Her Cousin I would imagine we set her name before as well. So team up there. Lee is here. I'll go you one of the most beloved figures in the contest world and a shout out that Frank Mir Ahmadi gave the Eddie Logan crew. Leo Did you know that was going to happen. Nor nor nor I didn't put doesn't surprise me the Franks He's a big supporter of all of this week. He is A true A true horse player at heart and definitely pays attention to all the things going on. What are the vibes? Like at the so-called Eddie Logan Table here at the treasurer tables in one's like a cemetery in action wasn't we actually really interesting wars. Were just talking about the war in front. He had regained. Hey but after that I mean. You're the hunt I mean. Not US guys shouldn't ten bucks right now tomorrow make the cut us it right Ya. Yeah the cut line looks like it's going to be at the theoretical cutline as of the end of today. Looks like about one eighty bucks eighty six eighty six right now season you look probably what percentage of the people in the room that play Golden Gate that they already wasted all there so That's what we were just talking about right now with with with the guys at the table is like you know anybody can anybody right now. There's nobody out of it right. Where is your ticket line on that? I'm not I'm not playing support is here. Yeah just here with the guys you know steak lobster. Every night. I get a funny story. Yeah about that. I've I've been listening to two big constantly pretty much every day. I don't Miss Because I get on the road. I got an hour drive to work every day so I try to get out about missed the first part and there's a guy that I like But that was years ago but it was. It was funny because when when he's talking about when he's here he it goes to del Rey and had been there a couple of times and then I should take my wife there and the last four five years we go there about thirty five times is a year so if you ever have a bad day where he reservation you can't get in. Just call me and I can get you can get you in. It is so so funny. You told me that story and then I met a couple I met a couple. It might have been here or no. It just may have been at Santa Anita Nita was at Santa Anita and they said you know we used to go to when we were kids when we were like a young dating couple apple we used to go to the Dow all the time and then for whatever reason we kind of moved in we were we were within range but we all of a sudden we didn't go for fifteen fifteen years and you started talking about the Dow Ray and we looked at each other one day and said why have we not gone back to the Dow and all this time and the same thing now. They say that they go almost twice a month now again. Yeah Yeah we don't we don't miss it. Was We started going back to my wife. Ordered the same something like the first two years and then she finally shake. She's she's finding she's right now. She's on the Chilean Sea. Bass right. That's that's the biggest. You'RE NOT GONNA get it if you're not going to get a pepper steak Chilean sea bass. I'm funny I should have gone to the Super Bowl party last Sunday. And I I'M GONNA kick myself that. I was in town for Super Bowl and actually I didn't think to call you my go-to guy was Richie Silverstein. Because he was dating. Yeah Yeah Yeah Right. Is he still. Data's yeah yeah she yeah I think so. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. So it's retired. He retired judge agents. Yeah the funniest other things you know you like fossil men's right. Yeah and I grew up like three blocks from there. I grew up from three blocks from there. Yeah there was a there was actually before you don't probably with the time you start going there. There was a liquor store on in the corner called Dornier's and that's you know I have about five things that got me into racing but when you walked in the door. He's as a kid. They had the winners. The Guy who had a owned a bunch don't you horses and he had the winner's circle pitchers and they were like I mean they were. They were like eleven by seventeen like those big black and white around the whole around the whole place itself so yeah so we go to Dorney and get soda and and we get the green sheet right and we get the green sheet so this is funny J. Privilege so we get the Green Jackie and then we would go. We're like eleven years old right then we would go to the park right and so we played in the summer. We'd play Football Basketball Football Baseball and then at five thirty we stop doing. Put a Horse Jockey on right. You take which you know what that is. That's that was a real race recreation show. That was popular back in the day. Jay Richards right. Who's still alive and they've got a really funny story about that so but So we would do. We would bet so we were. Betting is like eleven we were betty. So we've been ten cents we take returns and then I. I was always a clever when I was trying to pass post like I was trying to fight it out before I can win the money but it was so funny because in the sweet was funny as I've I have something big scores. Something I'll yellow horse and jockey or whatever like that right and so Mir Monte he One day after we're talking in a button horsing jockey comes up and so he clicky he gets his foldout right and he calls Jay Richards on the phone so Jay Richards is still still alive and kicking in town. Right Out Vegas. Yeah Yeah Yeah you gotTA. He's got an incredible story and he went from that that he went from there. Doing the horse and jockey came to Vegas Right. He did the when you went to the Racing sports book when he went through the racing sports book after after. You know. This is when they didn't have you know he had no video. No nothing you'd listen to the races and it was j richards calling the races. He did the regime town. Yeah Yeah so you know they jump from one track to another and it was all racist creations from the right absolutely. Why not guys up the guys up? The you know like the hotel across from Saturday. Getting the service right and he he run and tell Richardson I were friends. WHO shuttle human? He was my predecessor at the Las Vegas Review Journal. He worked there ten years going when I was doing or in writing the columns and the handicap turf right when he was going to retire and do the Hong Kong thing with the Hong Kong the Hong Kong. Hey the Capris I him and Rosser recommended to his bosses forced. That's all. I got the job at the Journal. which helps how it was funny? Because you know freight how how how how funny he is and he has. He has Jay. He'll do his call. Oh you know person jock powerful speech or you're not so we have a lot of fun. We have a good group of guys on lowering since to my right James Lee House there. We have guys coming in and out and or Katya who runs the place right. It sounds. It's a special place has a place as you know when they talk about like magical places like there's a lot of spores that happened in that place so it's tough for me leaving because of the product but of course you know we're we're loyal customers have weeded free time. We we we still. They're still showing up reporting the room. Where you support Sanam Leo? You're known as a player sharp handicap. But I think of you as one of your particular alert skill sets as the ability to write tickets and and construct. That's yeah so when you've played in this tournament before do you feel a little bit. You feel a little bit handy because you can't you don't have now. I'm not I'm not out of my comfort zone but my strength is I pick pick pick pick six multi. Take a waitress funny because I was thinking about what are they. I think Hawthorne does is anything where I know Jonathan. Yeah he had a sixty five today. Yes so I think that's my strength and so it doesn't define me as a player. I think Nick Paton on. I think it was telling you it's like you said you'll don't chase it you'll next here's another year so that's the way kind of looked at it right and then you came yesterday. I'm here with my friends We're having a good time and and You know it's the place to be. You set it man definitely definitely Kelly is and hopefully. We'll get you back playing in this next year. Yeah yeah it might start earlier. Maybe this year yeah all right. Great Cheers Leo. Leo of monitoring is one of the great players need any logan sweet and just a just a real a real positive person. Paul Yeah that. Follow him at polyester. Yeah he's contests player a cut. Come on the last New Year's just the last year brand new at it he's just these these absolutely torn it up. Yeah and UH UH came here came here with a chance. Don't know how he mentioned how he ended up today. Leo mentioned Dave Good for the the artist formerly known as maybe curious to get an update on him. Let's take a look at standings linked to see where he ended up tonight anti on August. We're talking about last year when he was playing for the bonus started off Chile. Chilly and ended up ended up in pretty good shape fifty three and Thirty eight okay. Well within a cap horse or ran away a lot of people look at it and I think at the end of the day you can say hey within a cap horse of the cut line on people will be happy with you know at the at the end of the day. They'll have to have a day tomorrow but why if not why not fall. Kush forty seven six taking the context where seven hundred entries if told you at the start of the day so you could finish eightieth. Yeah that's right because you're imposition. And the you know the real running in many ways starts tomorrow especially with the cancellations we had today. There's just of options available tomorrow with the better weather expected tomorrow. Moving Day here at the age. See the top sixty nine players will want want to compete in the semi final on Saturday on Sunday at about halfway through the day. Those sixty nine we'll get winnow to the final ten we'll go on to compete for the eight hundred thousand dollar first prize and the title of forced player of the year just about three million dollars a year on the line. It's going to get very serious. Tamara state well. And just you know not to not to Belabor some of the people that have struggled. But they're going down the list from from zero up and one of Roger's one of Roger's subpoenas do tickets has struck out and he needed. There was a price eyesores that he needed. That looked like it was going to get them going Then we look at some of the some of the smallest numbers. Joe Corey Right Joe Rogers Roger his other ticket five sixty Rogers Struggled today Carl Broberg. I see down there with seven forty seven with a bunch of horses and tomorrow. You'll wonder if you wonder if he thinks about the daily. I wouldn't but you know when you're so busy like he is i. It wouldn't shock me. Pete dresses joining us here. How did you do today my friend Pete did you Did you get off the off. The mark today extremely mediocre. uh-huh what does that mean to you. Fifty dollars nothing wrong with ash well within a CAP horse of Of being above the qualification cutline. What was your goal coming into the day? I wanted triple figures but I had some good prices that got third and that seemed to be coded quite a a theme for table. Does it change what you're looking to do tomorrow or do you come in with the same approach looking for that hundred and figure that might get you where you need to be Probably follow a lot of the cut. Line is kind of project some stuff out. I mean I just have to probably sounds somewhat obvious but just you're successful at at the choices that I have confidence in a couple of years ago you were the NHCD rookie of the year. How has the development bent for you as a contest player? You playing as often as you did that. Rookie year I I do. I play off and on online tournaments pretty busy guy and we don't have we don't have tracks like my home track in Saratoga. I live in Boston so Yeah I mean I enjoy it. It's a nice way to spend a weekend afternoon and night. You know my my son and so A. He's a man now he's twenty four years old right you know. We do our trainer together. Go to some football game things but that that's it. Where did you qualify this year? A couple of online tournaments. So you're you came here double-barreled. Yeah what's where's your second entry. Forty two okay so both in yeah in that range a lot worse offering you that makes me feel so you're not looking. Ah Damning with faint praise here. I didn't mean to do that to you. What's the plan for tonight? Going back to study or you're going out now have a nice meal I I've done most the cards of fortunately did not do act. They didn't waste any time on the smart and I will. I will do that. I will wait until tomorrow to see what's going on there. Looks like it's GonNa be okay just. FYI But yeah. Ah What the tracks doing regular fair enough Erin. I that that's a work in progress. I mean we're getting ready to load for the final final race of day one here at the NHCD The nightcap race number nine at Golden Gate fields Still a handful of people around. I imagine. Imagine they'll be some serious rooting going on here. You have any place left or you. You Rat Paul Paul Sirven. He touted some minor values values or competence level in in the big bomb. Here the two so I said you know I got one play left. Let's do it and you're not kidding. Thirty four to one which which is the longest shot on the board Eight to five favorite comes from Jonathan. One four thousand dollars flavors and eight to five. I've On the seven. Unusually Green unusual heat nine year old. There aren't that many unusual eats still running That's that's notable second choice. Wish right now. Five to two on the one blamed right with his main man Juan Hernandez The one horse color me happy a seven year old gelding five. Two two two nine two two on get like me. Sightsee Tamayo with Francisco Monroy aboard and then a six to one and shot the recipe. Six one is the five worse than the whigs up nine to one thirteen one on the three moonlight blue and twenty eight to one pocket prints that were rooting for Peter for cap horse. Capsule the two here we go win. Burley's GonNa go and snacks. The second and like eighty right outside of possible. dachshunds racing with on the wings of pocket grits the grave boards. The red was Thrill deal the one-sided pocket second land in unusually making their way towards the let them work on light blue him. He's on the outside. They open up links on on the links. Strides into third with Koch. Sabado made ape clear after breaking the outside closing score legs off the piece the blackjack gap to the rams racing with the eleven year old lock in rich in a pro scrambling to sixty five favorite has seven path and links to make the final mile color behind me. Light blue contentious turn color me happy in a light blue space of four on the wings of being sent back to the pod. Aw Brown at this point excreting asked by getting like need also leave grim filling Nakisa the woodland owners the rift grinding with Chris. Raillard the script cleaning leader. Kim depending the rim on the other be happy wondered should be activated second is usually green and occurred and they thank you everybody. which great night haven't I say? Get your work done. I and we'll come back. We'll talk to you tomorrow. You got another hat for Tamari wearing the same one. Of course he does of course he does the Great. Yeah I did finally by a hatbox for the for the topper. I couldn't I could've brought it but I'm recycling this one good stuff. Peter Jackson's who ever heard US talking about contests world Three four years ago and got involved in is one of the great One of the great stories that what are the really good stories absolutely seventy-two winter color me. Happy that is the Blaine right trainee with Juan Hernandez. Who of course blamed used and along the way with with his with his preakness horse last year Those days now escaping me my brains to Friday holy cow. It's in there somewhere but my brain fried but it sounded like a lot of people might have had that we're sup- almost surprisingly but I mean I guess if you're you're opposed to the favorite you come come up with a logical. You're you're nearing that sweet spot. It's actually smart just to grind. There's no reason to reach here at the end and should assure that we've this is great normally we'd We'd have to hang around a long time. Find the day one winter. We we did that already. We did do that. And nobody's going to leapfrog past Alvian in Benton and everybody out and a lot of smiles no matter what the scores are Justin in Moose starring. Guns he was reaching out to say hi and color me. Happy nine dollars in change so somebody will pick up. You know ten eleven points are GonNa come in very handy tomorrow this time tomorrow. It'll be chaos. They'll be all kinds of human drama people. Waiting people sweating ten cents in a place. Price is GonNa make the difference for somebody between getting to advance to day three and the not so consolation tournament which will be happening on Sunday as wow. That's a very good point. Six six or eight or ten dollars today. It means a lot because moving the day to take those dollars moving position and trying to get into that top sixty nine to earn the right to play on Sunday. It'll be a lot of that going on. Well we can ask you should not burden necessarily Obliged to wait for the the final update L.. Send out the link and send out some some snapshots of of the way the board finished up are being the Jimmy standings. Things are looking while says. He needs the Silky Sullivan. Finish for we'll see we'll see how it works. Though guy like Patti Daddy can get hot and get moving. There's somebody with zero who's GonNa make you know. So we should mention speaking of some lower scores Bring up the date date on team Matisse because Paul was sitting well down thirteen eighty not where he wanted to be for sure Duke with twenty seven twenty and twenty forty. Yeah I mean a little bit better and those guys never out of it you could see them adjusting and getting back into the fray for sure but but clearly not the day that they were looking for where Jonathan end well. We don't know yet because his last race but Jonathan Sixty four forty eight. He's going going into the end My goodness I just got kissed by somebody. S O Joe Scanty out. Nice this guy. I hope that wasn't like like you know after after everything that went on I. I hope that wasn't like you know Michael and make on freight Freida beat. You're broke my heart and I had nothing to do I. I report the news and I kept his name out of as much just five thirteen call at fourteen twenty which is which is really good. Good points that was actually. The worst was basically four to one. it was a tick away from four to one all the break out a little bit of a drift. There got to be happy with it and it will change some of this positioning being at some stage here though. Certainly not at the top of the leaderboard where Albion Benton is gonNa Punch ticket for the Breeders Cup betting challenge and look really good heading in today's today to here but of course you know lotteries tomorrow very early days and we're going to have to see what happens. Let's all right. That's all right. Yeah Yeah Noah James James and in the sixties. Let's get a couple of updates on some of the Defenders says some of the former winners Chris Little Moore's his high ticket eight sixty. It's not bad at all. That could be developing story tomorrow. What about some of the other champs we saw Steve wolfson making some noise? Seventy seventy one forty seventy one forty before that last race that the other new hall of Famer Rich Goodall playing this event the two thousand eight champion forty one twenty no no. I wouldn't mind being higher but not bad at all sally. Sally has struggled Sixteen forty seven sixty imbalanced professional player. Jim Chicago and sixty. They're they're all sort of you know just hanging around and they put some you know. Put some points It was Kinda first half a story right if any one of those people that you mentioned with those scores gets like one hundred fifty one hundred and seventy Mile Bang. They're right up there. They have their Albion Benton Day in in there and they're going to be looking looking good drawn. Live to make it to that final table trying to think who else who else should we What we check on the bonus baby? Here's what we're looking at one right there in the tour available for a huge bonus I think off the mat a little bit thirty five eighty so that he's got to feel good good about that given he was nowhere hour ago absolutely acid. That's good and then Brad Anderson was the other There's there's the Maven twenty and thirty eight forty Anderson the BBC winner who just walked by. He didn't look unhappy. I wonder if One of he hits something sixty eight eighty but oh thirty three twenty. It can't feel too bad about the sixty eight eighty. That's the one that he won yesterday at the last chance as a very very fun table able with the reigning champs. Scott Kohl's and Brad Anderson they each one in and where did Scott in eighty four eighty eighty four eighty four hundred. He's not have a bonus in this one eighty four eighty. He's gotTa feel excellent about that when I checked on him midday there wasn't much going on And Yeah and he he obviously put A little bit of movement in Let's see where Ray arsenault finishing up for any mental don. Lose some glasses of that one of the venting missing Zingani Glasses here. All the important stuff getting sorted out at the end of how are they going to read the handicapping. David is somebody who left early. Unfortunately for them you learn a lot of things when you punch these letters in A. R. S. gets US Scott Carson Marshal Graham and ray ourselves three of our friends so ray as we mentioned before it looks like he'll finish the day in the top ten or close one seventeen sixty Scott Carson sixty seven forty and Marshall grams. Thirty one sixty another another in that category of not where he wants to be but Couple of horses away from launching himself right back into the situation. Have we heard how John O'Neil's health is by the way no is Robert Ramirez playing in the tournament this year. He would know if we can find him. Yes yes one dollars. We'll find his table tomorrow. We'll get a John O'Neill update hopefully. Hopefully good news helps. One of the nicest men are just love him did we. I should AH NO JOSE. Arias aided qualify this year. Patty County's health is also some question not great and I betcha mentioned Jamie And let's see where he is ending up The way things are I thought I saw a decent seventy eight sixty. Okay yeah lots of former champs drawn life to make day three. That's terrific not not bad at the wall. Well a little less than a couple of minutes really. Don't say goodbye on this Friday evening. Almost eight o'clock back east and a have five o'clock here in California. There's I see Frank Sorenson sitting still and what's frank look APP. No he doesn't. It is not the captain captain. Frank Forty to sixty. That's not that he's not. They shouldn't be desperate rich gang. I gotTa thank you for a wonderful afternoon to noon. Yeah thank you for having me folks. I'll be back tomorrow accent schedule tomorrow. Steve same two o'clock to to the to thirty to thirty two to thirty the first mandatory is is that how is that is ten thirty Pacific Super League. They shifted this a little bit Wow we've does that mean we need to be on for it. I think we not not enough enough to be on for the first. They don't need to be on for that first one but that is trying to do the second one though That is well. You know what I I think. That is crazy early. But I'm glad I'm glad we showed up at two thirty would've been like hey to racists are done Dan. This is why it seems like they've taken a very specific composition of the race. Can't figure out what it would be. But maybe maybe I mean just randomly. Maybe it ended up. The fourth and fifth at Gulfstream were better contests type races than the stuff later in the car so the first mandatory about ten thirty Pacific Time Ten thirty is the first first mandatory that is really ever being the case before well and the last Dettori with golden gate is at four fifteen so you know about about where we were today but they really spread this out a five hour spread. Yeah that's borden that a serious it's going to be fast and furious action on a longer day than usual. Well I I think I think our ticket might be noon instead. Okay Hey that works. Just come in. We'll have we'll have an updated story but there's still all to play for. It's not like that's going to determine the course of things no not at all a and that there's an hour and a half between the second mandatory and the third this you know what's strange range about this is this is very different than the. Are you doing the charity thing I am. It's not the mandatory. The charity thing is no well no I. Pack does have it does have have the fourth and the fifth. There is one rate the OAK. They're not using the king cotton for the contest. They're using that maiden special way to Gulfstream instead. That's very strange. Should be mandatory is but but there was one that they that they swapped out that they swapped out So all right. So let's let's let's call it noon tomorrow. We'll or out along the same day it is. It's the same it'll be the same instead of instead instead of two to eight. It'll be noon to six basically noon to no not even noon eastern three two nine right. 'cause we know we'll we'll be done right. I'm sorry we'll be done by five o'clock Pacific time local so eight so it's so it's noon to eight. Yeah Eh long no no. It's not no it's three. It's the same five hours. Okay right because we're taking eastern three. So annoying I want rich. How are you the sorry guys? Take you take you to make the full adjustment moving from east to west. I felt comfortable after maybe a year. We're here at the beauty of it. Guys is when you're watching ball games on television because the three hour time difference we get to see everything out here it. It is great for sports yup three hours behind the world but great for sports. Well there you go. It's that's a wrap day one and we us the new leader board. I think not that I see any. I don't see any significant movement. I Man Rob Robbie Courtney Courtney right on the bubble right now. That's a story. I'm looking forward to following tomorrow. That's cooled there's marginal I think there's marginal change here. Ed Peters hit ED. Peters hit that last That last race I think to get up to eighth is that right. What was he he was? He was the top ten already was he the baby. Is that updated on this big screen. I this one looks updated. Well the this this update update. Yeah this updates just as quickly on them and Melissa on their Yes yes yeah. There's no it was eighth. There's no major major switches. Know whether it is all right. I'M GONNA GO Casey get home. It's been a it's been a marathon day. Obviously for case on the Board Award and back tomorrow we're GONNA tell you noon to five eastern time. Excuse me noon to five Pacific. All three eastern can add three to Polish three days. Hey this is exactly exactly exactly. Get a bite. The and rest up the vocal chords. Actually John John. No this this is this is updated because John Nichols is up to twenty fifth. He made his he got us. Yes he did one on one sixty oh so he made so when he changed in the Golden Gate Scratch his horse. Scratch that Golden Gate and he ended up getting something yes he got something yeah he he got pilots hadn't seen him yet at very nice well up today We'll find out we're GONNA find out not that ended. Yep Good dinner plans. How am I supposed to remember? I can't I can't remember the difference between East Coast and west coast time. Oh my God awed Steve You gotTa See five seventy. Oh that's killer. This is amazing fabulous more of and t shirt with the iconic Obama campaign poster design but with more of the bet runner. This is my new favorite t shirt. That's responsible for this. Yes I I am. I cannot take the credit for the art. My girlfriend did it all. She's she's pretty good with this stuff you know she doesn't do it for a living. But it's it's fabulous. Look at the look at the pocket. Oh that's great moisture. Asthma colored shirt he wants and he goes Brown. I'm like I'm not finding brown long eared around pocket shirt anywhere. So so what's your next year. He goes black long season. Like I'm not buying long sees. We believe we got on any confirmation about whether or not you you're not the youngest pat stitches the youngest five-time qualifier to the your second. That's something mustache. Bring you luck today. Fifty Comey writer and conditions first. Half that's not that firing away we like like to hear that. And you're in good shape for tomorrow so I gotta get second drink tickets. You're you're winning so if it starts to go wrong long you'll start getting after it on top of a decent deal with conscious. That's that that's what it's about and obviously a lot of smiles. Great Work Eric. Eric don't go too far. We got sort out to dinner plan. Veep thanks so much thank you. My friend is one of the great pleasures of the year to be here get to interact interact with so many players and I thank you for the opportunity. We'll be back with you tomorrow. Noon Jewish capital Pacific. Three o'clock three o'clock eastern time. Everybody when I look forward to talking to you then Rejang again thank. You can't even go through the list of visitors. Who many they out there? There were so many but Roxy Roxborough being the highlight without without a doubt no doubt about it Las Vegas Legend always great to spend time with him from bally's Day One and H C talking tomorrow apperances with Steve on Sirius. 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Legendary Teachers: Max Abrams with Neal Wilkinson

Drum History

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Legendary Teachers: Max Abrams with Neal Wilkinson

"Hey, I wanted to let you guys know before we start this week. I just launched a drum history merch store on the drum History Podcast website where you can go there and you can buy a drum home tee-shirt, which is super comfy and I'll have more merch up there soon. And while you're on the website, if you want to help support the show in a different way, you can become a member of patreon where you get all kinds of cool perks starting at $2 and four $5, you can get the episodes early and it goes up from there with a lot of really cool stuff. So check it out and go to drum History Podcast. Com and check out the merch. Thank you. Enjoy the wage. So Welcome to the drum History Podcast. I'm your host bar vanderzee. And today I'm joined by Neil Wilkinson a legendary. Uk-based wage session drummer to talk about his lessons with the great teacher Max abrahms Neil. Welcome to the show. Hey Bart, how you doing? Good to be here. I'm great. I'm really excited about this one because I love focusing on the teachers and there's there's a lot of legendary teachers where people may not know about um, like I know Max I've heard of his name as being a teacher to people like Stewart Copeland and Simon Phillips and obviously he was your teacher, but why don't you just tell us about this this iconic off go back to the beginning of his, you know, his life his career and and yeah and us through it. Yeah well to to just to put him in a little perspective. I was at The NAMM Show in dog In California, maybe fifteen twenty years back and I was grabbing a little lunch at a restaurant nearby and I happen to be sitting at a table next to Joe Morello and I was with my wife and I couldn't help it say hey. I've got to say hello to Joe, you know, so I leaned over and I said Excuse Me Miss Amarillo, you know just like to say hello and I'm a big fan and and he was very nice. He you know, he was he was very nice to me and and I said, oh by the way, I studied for eight years with Max abrahms and he put his knife and fork down again and extended his office and then he said well now we're friends so that puts it into a little perspective. He just said wow. Wow, what a teacher you know, he really so he definitely got some International street cred and respect among the greats, you know? Yeah. Wow. Yeah Joe there was a biography episode on here about Joe where where I mean, he's a drummer Drummer. He seemed like a nice guy but like he respects hard work and dedication and Real Deal teachers like that. So that's that's saying a lot. Yeah. Absolutely and Max was he was a real Taskmaster, you know, he was a real like hardcore, you know, I've always said I think the closest analogy would be like a Victorian kind of being a teacher that just would not mince words and would put you through the mincer every single time you went, you know, and it doesn't matter about physical pain or endurance you just going to do this and you know, if you're not interested then don't bother showing up next week. I'll see you later. You know, it's like it was for an eight-year-old. That's pretty that's pretty hardcore. You know. Well, well, let's back up a little bit. So so what is his era of like like do you know when he was born? I've actually looked online and it's kind of hard to find in for yeah about him. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know the exact year. I could probably I should probably have Googled that just so I'm a little more aware but I'll park a slightly know that his Heyday of playing was the kind of big band Goldberg. Error in the uh, kind of you know, thirties forties fifties through London and he was he played in pretty much all the well-known London big bands that would play and now those guys were the kind of the pop stars of the day. It literally didn't get any any bigger, you know, because if there was a Life radio station or when it became TV sessions those guys were the musicians that got to do it because they were the best, you know, yeah, and so he was playing with Joe Gibbons and the Savoy orpheans at the Savoy Hotel Jack Hilton. Let me think Geraldo all these incredible. They were like the cream of the crop in in learn, you know, and yeah, so and he told me once I was telling him about about how it is to do a home. Big know, you know, we've all been there and done the embarrassing Hotel gig you know, where you have to load your gear under back through the kitchen, you know, and he said no no, no not in my day. He said he said the guy the porter opened the door for me and said good evening Miss Abrams and he said none of us helped him with my equipment and well, it's you know, that's what I mean. They weren't kind of half tons these guys they were really a big deal, you know, no and it comes up in a fair amount of episodes where where you have to put in a perspective that the the hotel was the and I was actually just wage I was talking to my wife about it yesterday for some odd reason. Usually she glazes over when I start talking about Trump history stuff, but it was like I was telling her know that the hotel was like the the hotspot that's where I said you get, you know, the Gretsch broadkaster and the slingerland radio King and now lutely. Yeah, but but no, it's it's the it's the you know the happening. It's kind of cool to think about that people like, you know, your birth If you're martini and you're you know, you're the Ritz and yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean just the the Glamour and I guess the the the kind of movie stars of the day and all the you know, I guess all the politicians of the day would be at the Savoy in their finery and there's Max in the background just stirring the soup at the back with the brushes, you know, and yeah and he and he you know, he did a lot of cruise ship work to you know, and again, you know, like as I say this is way before any kind of a studio career was possible or or a touring career or anything so he had written literally reached the Pinnacle of his career. You know, that was it that way because you could get so it's there was a a radio show here called workers playtime and they you know, obviously needed a band to supply little music so They hired all the the best musicians of the day. So he was the drummer on that, you know, so he I guess he was one of the first call early session musicians, you know God. Wow, which I mean kind of a that's sort of he laid the groundwork for guys like you. Yeah hundred percent. Yeah. Well that's interesting. It's so neat to to think of the differences in In studios and recordings and a lot of these recordings would be made and I know in America. I'm sure it's the same. They're like you were saying the radio would broadcast from these hotels off. So, okay. So he's he's full-on like you said, I mean, he has reached the top of the mountain right basically my point and that's probably what like the fifties. I mean, I'm not open it probably corresponds with like rock and roll in this because the sixties things changed right obviously, but in in fact, I always bring up the the kind of like, you know in that forties era things were different obviously for you guys. I've had some British episodes on where there's some British Jeff Nichols has been on where those who great. Yeah in the 14th London was bombed. So things had to be different than all these guys. Yeah, but actually to some degree I think there was that kind of faith. You know like to hell with this we're just going to the gig goes on, you know, like, you know movie theaters stayed open and I think the hotel bands would just be playing the air right at the air raid sirens would be sounding while and this you can imagine chandeliers being shaken and you know and and Max still just tapping away at the background there, you know faith and different world, you know, that's like a movie or something. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely and actually talking about him sitting at the back there and what you were saying about early recordings, you know, may I have a couple of kind of compilation records with a few Max Abrams tracks on it and you can barely hear him playing unless there's a little too bar break where he's you know, you can just hear this kind of very polite time keeping, you know, and then there might be a little kind of syncopated Phil here and there but it's dead. Think there was slightly know Mike's on the kit. I'm pretty sure it's just leaking into maybe one or two mics for the whole Orchestra. You know that I'm always in in, you know, I keep kind of shooting myself in the foot cuz I say this and then I actually have to do it but I want to do an episode on early recording techniques where you look at, you know, a live performance on a stage with like Duke Ellington or something and it's like there's one mic. Yeah, how did list its position of the musicians? It's it's okay. Drums. You be quieter piano. You need to play harder. Oh, yeah, and I think that actually what what you're talking about. There is a a quite a deep subject that I think musicians were very aware then of internal balance of how the Rhythm Section were balanced and how they reacted with the rest of the orchestra and and I have I kind of carry that with me off And so sometimes you know when I get to a live gig or a TV gig or something and there's like screens around and I'm like God she say they don't even know. I'm going to play off a just presume. I'm going to be smacking the hell out of the drums and you know and often I'll will I'll say can we just try with no screens a couple of times and and I thought, you know, maybe it doesn't work all the time because a lot of times it's to do with maybe the strings are going to be near to me and they quite rightly don't want the the kind of bleed into their life is you know, but there was certainly a a more awareness of balance between the instruments and also of course knowing is and things like that, you know, that's so you didn't have a guitar player kind of turning his ear pack on to 10:00 and his amp on 2/8 and his guitar and to 7 and that's my sound you know, yeah, they were more aware of where they were playing the game. The tunes they were playing. I think that's a very interesting interesting time, you know? Yeah in the humidity in the room and you're right. You're right. You're I mean that affects sound but also your home or drum heads are now yeah, you know completely lose so and and I keep saying that we'll talk about it later, but I should say right now. So people know that we're referring to like Studio stuff. I mean, you know you are you have your your credits are I'm looking on the Gretsch website here. Like you've played with Van Morrison Paul McCartney Ray Charles Annie Lennox. I mean, you've got I mean you've the the movies like Star Wars, I mean, yeah, so, you know what you're telling you know what you're talking about when it when it comes to the stuff, but we'll talk about that a little bit later. So great. All right, so did his job career did he just sort of naturally wind down from being a performer to then being a teacher or how did that transition go? Yeah. I know for sure that it was a conscious choice. Move on his part, you know, I think he just maybe things were changing and I know also his schooling that he had he was very often in very schooled in rudiments and he could his reading was yeah, he could read anything, you know, so he was kind of primed to be the teacher of the day really so he was constantly getting people say hey, could I come by for a lesson? Could you show me this? How do you do this? Could you know, and I think you just thought This is crazy. I can just live in Chelsea and and teach you know, and so he kind of just he just sort of shut the door and turned his back on it, you know, and I I think he was I think it was a possibly his main calling, you know, cuz he was really good. He was really good. Well that's very very similar to page Joe Morello where Joe performed forever, but he really taught. I mean he he became obviously a student of stone but then he he was you know teacher and then kind of helped to create the modern, you know, the modern clinics that we have today, but it's very similar where they're these guys maybe, you know, all of their and Jim Chapin and these guys they're they're they're years performing really lead up to their better-known. You know, I don't know a hundred years later that's probably too far. But but like as teachers than they are performers. Yeah, absolutely for sure and click on a little side note here Max. There's there was a a guy in England called Bob Armstrong who passed away a couple of years back now dead who was a pupil of Max's and he became it was the same story with Bob. He was a player for a while around London and then just did the same path, you know, just kind of shut that down opened a studio and just thought that's me now. I'm I'm the teacher of the UK teacher which he was, you know, it was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a noble. I mean, it's just it's awesome. It's like we're all drummers, you know, you can't I mean, it's it's it's a probably a more nuts safe, but it's like I mean, he was probably getting older and it was becoming more of like a this is a bit easier. They come to me kind of thing, right and Max. I'm guessing if we're talking about the fifties. I don't know Max was maybe in his I don't know. It is forties or something. You know, it's you want an old man by today and it's but maybe I then he just felt like I need to to settle down or something. You know. But yeah his I think to be honest. He really had the knowledge. He really had all the experience of playing experience. He knew his rude, but it's like probably better than anybody else in the UK having done all the Scottish pipe band thing and I you know, I often think about him now. With the covid-19 for lessons, they you know, and I can hear I can hear Max's voice over my shoulder saying well, what is he going to teach her? He was he was so beautiful. I mean it was just lethal, you know, and so if you if you weren't really pure and knowledgeable he would call you out, you know, so some I mean, I honestly wish that there was a bit more of his honesty flying around the internet. It was it would be great. Yeah. Yeah and well, all right, so So I know you said did you say you were eight years old when you took lessons with them? Yeah, I I went to Max from when I was eight until I was sixteen and it's a really interesting way that I got the link to study with Max which was also equally as old school. It sounds like we're talking about a hundred years ago to me, you know, it's crazy. You know, we're talking exactly fifty years ago to the day in August August 15th, fifty years ago. Most of my phone number first lesson with Max abrahms. I was eight years old amazing. So what happened was that summer of nineteen seventy I was with my parents. We were on edge a day, you know, just a little Seaside vacation in a town called Margate a little Seaside town in Kent and for some unknown reason. And I've been playing drums for about a year. My uncle was my first teacher actually and so I've been playing for about a year and I entered this Talent competition for some unknown reason is because I was very shy so heaven knows what maybe I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, I I guess I did. Okay and I I won some little kind of cool like man from school kind of briefcase or something, you know, it was very Google. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was great and then maybe a little later this guy this chat appeared at the long table. And he said to my dad. Hey, I think your son should have lessons and I know my dad, you know, like I could imagine him looking him up and down and going. Oh, yeah, I'm like, yeah and what do you you know, who are you? What do you want, you know and and he produced his business card and he was from the Melody Maker. I don't if you've heard of that but it was a he was a music Weekly Magazine actually was more of a newspaper. It was an actual, you know, big kind of spread sheet newspaper. Yeah. I'm in the back where all the contacts for, you know bands looking for dramas and etc. Etc. You know this chapter the chat from Melody Maker was a guy called Chris Hayes and he contacted Max on my behalf and Max agreed to give me six lessons which Chris unbelievably paid for Thursday. Oh my God. Yeah. So Chris from Melody Maker saw your talent show performance. Yeah. Yeah, and then he said and then he contacted Max and then he believed in you so much. He paid for your first block of lesson. Yeah. Yeah exactly. You were discovered. Yeah, and it was unbelievable. You know, my my dad have the letters know, you know, and it says to my dad you show up at Max's at whatever time on Saturday and then there's a letter from Max same which took a train station to get off and all this stuff. And yeah, it's very very cool that time. You went is super just like it couldn't be better eight to sixteen. I mean that is literally the most Joy Formidable years. Yeah, probably in your life. Yeah, absolutely and I have to put it into a little perspective because my uncle was a big band drummer. And so he was all the time at home. I was hearing he play me, you know, Duke Ellington Count Basie, Buddy, Rich, etc, etc, you know so long and it wasn't like I was going home to nothing, you know, I was going home and I had my own call kind of Kind of keeping me under his wing kind of thing. You know, it was very cool. And also my brother was living at home still he was he's thirteen years older than me. So I you know was hearing he was very heavily into Beatles and Motown and the Rolling Stones. I was hearing lots and lots of different music. So I was home alone between my lessons with Max, you know know which is a good thing to yeah point out. So people aren't like it's almost more of a it would be more of a struggle if you didn't have that. I don't think it takes away from it off. It's good to say like you had support and you had yeah. Yeah, it doesn't end when you leave the lesson room. It takes constant right unlike know where you have the the office able internet and etc, etc. People, you know where you could find some inspiration to spy looking online, you know, then you really had to go and look for this stuff, you know. Which was yeah, so yeah, it was it was very interesting time. But but then I did start playing gigs not long after them and I guess we'll get into some of Max's approach but he was pretty hard on reading. So by the time I was kind of ten or eleven and I started to do local little small game, you know and rehearsal big bands that kind of thing I could already read pretty. Well, you know, so that was that was great. Yeah, so you were eight years old that would have been what nineteen seventy so and I want to hear about his other obviously Mega famous students as well. But I just like you said, so let's talk about him as a teacher. So yeah, you said me off I mean guy but like like almost like a drill sergeant kind of absolutely that's exactly yeah. That's perfect. Yeah. Now was he that way was there any was he compassionate at all? Nice to an eight-year-old. Well, you know the funny thing is yeah, I think he was compassionate but he just didn't he just didn't kind of took off on the gas pedal, you know, you just kind of was come on. Do you want this how badly do you want this? You know, you know, he never wants kind of I mean, I do have Recollections of him to say and well done something like that, you know, but never overly, you know, like now people almost do people are like even if you did horrendous on your lesson, your teacher is expected to say, oh you're sounding so great. Wonderful, you know. Yeah and he would know no you're not going to get that. You know, he have kids. No, he didn't actually okay. I am curious cuz yeah and that's interesting point you bring that up because my mum remembers that one time he said, Something something about I can't remember the exact context, but he referred to his boys and my mom said oh so you owe you have sons and he said no known know. I mean, my boy is my my drummers. I've got to look after my boys, you know, I gotta make sure these guys are you know, so that was definitely his focus. It was you know, that's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so he would give you what was it? Typically you said he focused on reading a lot. What was the typical lesson like, maybe not when you're maybe not your day 1 8 year old lesson, but let's say you were twelve years old, right? You've been there for four years you're gigging a little bit. What was like a what would it be an hour yet would be an hour and I'll just touch on the first person for only this reason sure. Please do it. Yeah. The first lesson was on the drumset in the top room and then he had a room downstairs and actually if I can't remember but he may have had two other dog. Jobs, but certainly the drumset was in the top and down stairs were practice pad drum sets. And the only lesson for about the first three or four years that I had on the drumset was number one and every other lesson after that was on the pads. So yeah, it was kind of a Rite of Passage to get back on the drumset, you know? Yeah, like he he hooks you with the fun. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So yeah, it would be he had a very interesting way of working it would be exact an hour and somebody pointed out to me that I didn't notice this but somebody pointed out to me that his clock was always five minutes fast. So so he's got long time up, you know, so so pretty pretty hardcore there but in contrast to that in the Joe Morello episode, I I learned that they would be like for our dog Long lessons where they would take like they would then go to lunch. They would then and this is what Steve fit a coup took lessons with them where they became like it was like a friendship and it sounds like it was the exact opposite of Max where you know, yeah. I mean, I have no right or wrong. Yeah. I don't actually know anybody who became any of his students who became his friends. That would want to go back out. I mean, I will I'll touch on that later but I did go back and see him when I moved to London and was getting I was doing okay in London and working and I went I was think I was about twenty-five at the time and I went back to see him but we can talk about that later. So yeah sure typical would be typically about an hour long. Yeah, and I all along and he would have this pre-owned next thing, you know, the his either his book would be open on the music stand or some exercises here written out or a big band chart and then he had the dog Really great system of he always have pre-recorded lessons on a reel-to-reel tape and that might be him. Let's just had a bunch of paradiddle exercises to go through. Well, it would be like say I don't know twenty exercises or something. He would have it a reel-to-reel tape him playing those exercises. So the phone know maybe five minutes ten minutes each set you down and he'd say, okay play me exercise one and you played that and then he'd say, okay have a look at bar 24, you know, and I thought oh, oh, yeah. Okay, and you know, I'd say okay and then it start the reel-to-reel tape and that that there would be him talking saying, okay. Let's start off the size one. And here we go one two, and then he would be playing and you'd have to play along with him. Wow. It was pretty cool. Because if you got lost you could kind of hear his sticking where he was and they you could pick it up, you know? Yeah and but interestingly this is what this is where the jury is out on whether this is a good good move or not. I actually think it's a great move, but yep. Would leave the room and sounds like what an easy way to do a yeah. Yeah, and then so, you know, sometimes you could hear a guy upstairs or downstairs or whatever he wage and check on him for a minute probably but the cool thing was you never knew where he was. So he you know, the nerve the nerves were gone a little bit because he wasn't staying at standing over your shoulder, but the pressure was still on because he could be right outside the door which is like five feet behind you, you know, yeah, so the pressure is still on but reading in his Diaries, which I got years later after he passed away. He wasn't outside half the time he would be it would be referenced to him cleaning the car before, you know, believe him or sunbathing on the roof of 15 minutes and then he'd come back here and he'd probably stand outside the room for five minutes and go. Then he'd walk in and say so what's wrong with Bart 24. I thought you yeah, and you'd that would always be the one that you struggled with was like, oh man, he was listening G. It was really troubling, you know, so he had this very passive way of teaching, you know that he wouldn't stand over your shoulder and spend the whole hour with you when I take a lesson, we all thought way. We're we're and I'm everyone who listens to show knows that's where I've since I stopped taking lessons when I was twelve and then just went like straight into you know, playing in bands for a long time and I'm now taking them with Barry Jacobs become a good friend and he was student of stone. But anyway, if I'm like I'm practicing in the week and I'm nailing it and it's great. But then the second I'm like, yeah. Okay bear here I go. I'm like it doesn't it's not as good when when the like you're saying when the teachers watching you. Yeah, that's right. Well, you know you're in mind if I was eight nine. Well actually for a from many years my dad or my mom or both of them would be dead. Bring me down to London on the train cuz I was from Coventry and it was like a hour and thirty minute train ride. Wow. So, you know Max would say Okay. So let's look at what I showed yet. So from the top exercise one and I would stumble, you know, am I can hear my dad saying he could play that yesterday IMAX would go he had this great Mid-Atlantic glaswegian accent, you know from glad he was from Glasgow be the other mild Little American thing in there, you know, my dad would say, oh, that's so strange. He could play it yesterday. My Max would say, well he can't play it now like man, he doesn't care off. This is so funny. Like it doesn't care who if he's talking to what parents don't care if he's No, in fact while this is on my mind, I remember my dad had a very short few years. You know and the drums were facing the wall in in the studio. So I'm bear in mind. I'm sitting at the kit looking at the wall and I'm probably ten years old, you know off and Max and my dad are getting into this real kind of heavy duty argument about something, you know, and the the max I remember Max said, okay, you can get out now and you can take him with you and I remember I just remember having my head in my hands off. My dad's going to get this is not going to end pretty like and and my dad just can't my dad just called me said yeah, I'm leaving he's staying. Wow, not heard the door gently clothes. I thought that's so cool. That was like a life lesson right there, you know. Yeah, and I'm sure I'm sure my dad walked out in a absolute majority of Red Mist. Yeah, they get such a God. That's right. I mean but that is a life lesson of like I feel like in that scenario like your dad one. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, cuz I think it was over something very trivial like, you know Max saying what did he get for Christmas and my dad saying, oh you got a new drum and Max saying what do you mean a drum? Was it a snare drum Tom Tom a base? What was it? You know my own I don't know it was you know, and that kicked off and you know something else and before, you know, it they're gone through the roof, you know how long it was a interesting dynamic between the two of them? Yeah, but all this being said it clearly worked his technique wage. Obviously worked right hated writing amazing drummers now, but I just I can't that you're right. Where is it? Good. Is it bad that technique of leaving the room? I would love I mean, I'm sure they're they exist somewhere. I don't know if anyone has them but though I wonder if those tapes of his lessons are out there. Well, I've got yeah, I have my original reel-to-reel tapes and I'm so I'm so nervous about touching them because they're so old so I'm actually looking into maybe a sort of a a professional company that would maybe transfer them for me because I don't want I have a reel-to-reel machine too, but I don't want to risk, you know, a fifty-year-old tape. Just putting it under having it crumble. I don't know whether they need to be kind of baked or yeah or treated in summer. I don't know I've done that. I've never done reel-to-reel like, you know, the thinner kind of smaller ones. I have personally transferred to inch twenty four track tape wage. And for people who don't know this is kind of a cool side thing. You have to what's called baked the tape where you put it in little it's kind of I mean, it's really like a little convection oven. I mean, it's it's an oven and it it heats up and you probably know better than me. I mean, I've only done it a few times but it it then releases the like it's not so stiff. Like if you then start pulling off the the word trying to unravel the tape the magnetic really the information like the bass drum and the snare will just come off. It'll flake off right? There you go. That's what I'm trying to avoid. Oh really, you know a look at them there at my parents placed and I look at them. Every time I go there and think I've got to do that have to do it. You know, you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah because their personal to invite them specifically to you these one generic ones that he would farmer two people. You know, he he would talk to you say Okay Neal, let's look at this one and you know, watch out for this job. No, remember the protocol sticking in bars of eleven and you know, the end of that he talked about some of the under was always a little reference halfway through and he'd say your name, you know is amazing that's different than what I originally I cuz I thought it was like okay Max puts on he has ten copies of the same tape. So that's almost like he's putting in more work my hoarding these at home. Oh, that's totally different. Yeah, absolutely. Because in the diary he refers to it, too. He says something like, you know, 7 till 9 p.m. Recorded a you know, a a technique rudiment tape for Dave Smith or whoever, you know, yeah. So yeah, it was obviously putting in the work, you know, totally yeah. Yep. Well, like I said it got good results. So, all right, so maybe we so you obviously were a great product. Let's talk a little bit about some of his other very, you know home. Deemed students. Yeah. Yeah, and how did that like, how did he get these guys? I mean, how how did that happen? Well, there were there were a lot of he had a lot of pupils that were that easy to become very successful around like the London scene, you know who were maybe not household names at all. Maybe not even in England, you know? Yeah, but they a lot of his drummer became working pros and to varying degrees, you know, they might just end up in like a I don't know what you guys would call it. What do you call those clubs like a lot of top forty band kind of thing. I mean, oh like a cover band. Yeah, like a cover band in a in a nightclub like a six nights a week kind of gig, you know, but, you know being able to read anything they could play they're not going to be able to they're not going to be playing with they're not going to be a first call Studio player but there but he produced a lot of those kind of musicians those kind of drummers, you know dead. But then he also there were guys that just went to info one or two lessons just for a just to get a real like a like a tune-up like an engine tune-up or a you know, just where am I? How am I looking has my playing and then he had the top-end guys like Simon Phillips went home for awhile and Stewart Copeland a little bit. I don't know if I had long and then let's see this actually it was a very famous drummer he of called Barry Morgan who was a game. He played on lots and lots of big big records. He was oh maybe around in the sixties or seventies was his studio time, you know with him and Clem cattini worth the kind of The American the LA equivalent would be like hell Blaine and most guys like a wrecking crew days, you know, yeah and berries Barry Morgan's office bread is a really great drummer and Barry just sent into max. He said not you got to have the best, you know, you gotta go to Max and you know, he could have easily learn from his dad, you know, but he went to Max of quite a while. Well, it's different if you have a family member teaching you rise a drill, you know, yeah drill sergeant kind of guy. Yeah, absolutely. So Yeah and his oh and there's also a another guy should mention who's probably not a household name to you guys there but really highly thought of in the London studio recording scene and he's a tremendous big band drummer guy called Mike Smith and he went to Max for many years who maybe about the same time as I did about eight years or so off and Mike is a completely I guess. This is the what I think of of the mark of a really great teacher doesn't really put too much of themselves in in you you know, what do you mean by that? I think I know what you mean obviously, but just maybe you know explain that a little bit Yeah. Well for instance You know, this is probably well definitely going against the grain of her most great teachers thought Sox Max never he didn't touch on technique with me off at all. I mean not even remotely he didn't talk about upstrokes downstrokes much grip. It's interesting traditional grip nothing. He didn't talk about style. He didn't talk about that anything. He just talks about what I felt if if I have to sum it up and I've thought about this before obviously is that I felt like he gave us all a like a tool box of what you need to play that instrument. You know, like I'm sure if you weren't making a very good sound he would kind of I mean that one thing I do remember he was very very big on Dynamics within your rudiments and making them swing. You know, like I remember playing like, you know, yep. Diddles like yeah, my name is saying to me. What is that Morse code? It's full of thought. It was just brutal and then he would lean over me and just kind of play this beautiful kind of with a little kind of swing in there, you know this and not Dynamic the difference between the low strokes and the high stroke was like one and ten, you know, it was huge and almost just by demonstration. Really I got it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay, I get it. Okay, so but never any but basically so I think he he kind of approached it from look you're going to need you should be able to play single Strokes double Strokes paradiddles slams drags, you gotta be able to read you know, and you would take me through kind of classical snare drum parts and off. Count Basie big band charts but he transcribed himself note-for-note and I felt like there was no, you know, I thought there was no style involved. He didn't say this is how to play Bebop all this is how to play Dixie or this is how to play reggae or anything like that. You know, it was just yeah, that's how you play off the snare drum and the bass drum hi-hat and the symbols that's it. So it's not creating clones of himself. No, not at all. So what I was going to say was Mike Smith who had the same. Amount of tuition probably the I did that probably around the same time. I did came out a completely different drummer. You know, Mike is very Akin somebody like and I hope he wouldn't mind me saying it cuz I know he loves him but he loves of kotler with yeah Sinatra, he's got that thing totally down, you know, but he's he's off a very contemporary play. I don't want to I don't want to undermine what Mike does cuz he's fabulous. But yeah, if you want somebody to nail a big band chart first take with all those like our classic setups and a beautiful sound. Well, that's my call over, you know? Yeah. Well, yeah now let me ask you cuz they're obviously the like like you said the household names like the name like your mom knows is obviously like Stewart Copeland or even down to Simon Phillips guys like that. So they went as adults. Right were they successful musicians at that point where where's was little Simon Phillips, you know, ten years old. Yeah. Yeah, he was he was a boy. Yeah. He was a boy because interesting life Max played in Simon's dad's big band. Simon's dad was called Sid Phillips and I think he played clarinet if I remember rightly and down Max was the drummer in Sid Phillips band. So hence Simon goes to some Max for a few lessons to you know, get get his stuff together, you know God so it was just a few just a few lessons I think so but also, but I think he probably got his reading together with Max and you know, Simon was a big deal by the time he assigns through the National Youth Jazz Orchestra. So his reading was pretty good and by the time he was fifteen or sixteen he was Major wage. You getting big big session calls in London, you know, gotcha. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. You know, so I may I felt certainly like a like I'd passed it. You know, I was Nineteen when I first started do my sessions in London, you know, and I was like man, I'm so far behind Simon, you know, I mean 19 years, you know, you still look at kids, you know, it's crazy. Yeah, and so Stewart Copeland, oh was he older because I I guess I just think of like, sometimes you equate things to like Neil. Going to like Freddie Gruber and he's older and he's you know, an already famous magician was Stewart. Not the kit was he just still younger guy too? Yeah. I think they both those guys went to him as I did before they became. Who they who we know the mess, you know, it wasn't like, you know, you mean with Neil. Yeah going back and kind of go and I need to get my I don't know my my traditional grip to get off my chest shops together or whatever, you know, and yeah, they just went for a proper proper lessons, you know. Oh, yeah, the one of the big guys that I think have you heard of Jack Parnell. Yes. Yeah, Jack was a pupil of Max's and Jack of course was off probably better known as a arranger conductor because he's he had his own big band and orchestras. That would do all the big TV shows through the 16th. You know, you're you would always see, you know, like a variety show featuring the Jack Parnell Orchestra and there they be you know, like a, you know, Thirty piece Orchestra onstage in Jack will have done the arrangements and I'm would be conducting so but he was a really great drama to you know, yeah. I know if shared some videos of him online. Yeah. Yeah on social media, but I thought well, okay. So then as we get further into it What happened towards I mean did did he teach until the day he died or or what happened towards the end of his you know, yeah. Well, actually the the short answer is yes, but the long is that he he did but he kind of I think he kind of eased off the gas at that point. You know, he he decided to move out of London move down to Eastbourne on the south coast and he got himself a little apartment near the seafront and and had a I guess he was, you know, most people would call it retirement wage. I think he was still having about two or three students a day, you know, but I've got I think yeah, but I think he was kind of saying yeah. Yeah, you'll be fine to anybody. Yeah, and so I think it wasn't like he was he wasn't that same. Guy that would get your on the back of the head for a right left instead of a right, right, you know? Yeah. Now how old was he when he passed away? What year did he? Yeah, that was awful mid-nineties. I think ninety something like that. Yeah and wow, I went to his funeral and oh I should mention my good friend Mark Fletcher. Who am I from the same tone? He became the house drummer. Ronnie Scott's for quite a long time. He also he also studied with Max for a for a while and we both went to Max's funeral home and we went back to his apartment afterwards and everything. Was there everything. So we said well what's happening with all this? Stops, you know and they they weren't sure so we were worried. It was going to be just kind of dumped. Yeah, and there was a guy there said look just take if there's something you want just take it off. So I took some 78 he has these beautiful. The 78 RPM records of his snare drum technique with a little kind of booklet, you know. Yeah, and so I have those and I took his Diaries ten years of his office, but actually the I eventually found out that they didn't trash a lot of it. It went to be archived at Leeds College of Music in the north of England. That's great. But you were right to do that though. Cuz if again, he doesn't have like much of a family I'm assuming as an older guy that didn't have kids or anything. Right right. You could think it being just you know, let's throw it away but wage. Yeah. Oh actually, you know what though? We get to the the his funeral service. Probably his most famous pupil is not even a drummer. It's most famous pupil is Jim Marshall from Marshall amps. Yeah. Whoa, and he he said a beautiful thing at Max's funeral. He said If it wasn't for Max Abrams there wouldn't be any Marshall amplifiers. He said because I wouldn't have been in the business at all. So that's a kind of a weird connection, but I thought that was very interesting. You know, I didn't know Jim Marshall was a drummer. Yeah, apparently started out as a drummer and went to Max and then for whatever reason fell into I don't know if he played guitar, but he certainly took into I guess it was hearing guitar players say, oh man, these apps are terrible. We need something more probably louder. I'm guessing you know, yeah. I'm like, wow, this guy's life really mean to me. I'm going to switch instruments that you go. So yeah that that was great hearing Jim talk about Max and he was very he had a very fond memory of Max, you know. Hm. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, that's so cool. I mean, it sounds like Sometimes tough love can be a good thing and and obviously produces great drummers and not I don't say coddling but saying yeah, you're sounding good. Okay. Oh you didn't practice. That's okay cuz I'm home. I taught and and I that was me. I would say. Oh, it's all right, you know, I know and I honestly if I'm honest I don't think it is a good idea to say that God. I think you need a little you know, I don't think you need to maybe go as far as Max would but but I think a little just the honesty is is the best policy, you know, I think that's and actually Although he dished out the tough. Love as you called it when I eventually went back to kind of with Humble Pie. I went back to see him in my mid-twenties. We went to T at a local hotel in Eastbourne, and he had a briefcase with him. And when he opened it when we sat down Petit, he had all this stuff about me. He'd kept all these like newspaper cuttings and stuff from Melody Maker and all my boss just things that he taught me and it was like this whole kind of like, wow. I was just blown away man. Yeah, so there was obviously a you know, there was just a sort of a love there, but I guess he he didn't feel comfortable showing it or whatever, you know. Yeah, you're you were one of his boys. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah and keep I've got it somewhere. He pulled this napkin from the table and rotate this little thing like a little reading exercise and he just turned it raised a claim that was just it wasn't any kind of drum thing. It was just a rhythm, you know in and it was in common. So pretty hard to read a quick Tempo, you know. Yeah, and he said, Okay. Yeah, then he wrote something else and it was exactly the same Rhythm but in for for you know anywhere, okay, and then he's okay and then he wrote the same Rhythm but in 3 4 so went over the phone line of okay, you know, you're not catching me out these. Oh, okay. Okay, you know it was not just you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool though. Yeah. Okay. So I want to talk about we're going to talk about drum hangs, which is something really cool you're working on but first I want to talk about your career and just give us kind of the overview here. I mean, whoa you have like I mean Paul McCartney Ray Charles like what? Yeah, you know most amazing you well, it's a really, you know, I did I found a job. Let's a I think it was from Max Abrams and I was about thirteen or fourteen or fifteen around that that time may be closer to the end about 15, I guess and Max said said that he kind of training me up grooming me to be a session musician and he wrote that to my dad and I remember thinking what does that mean? You know, but I guess he saw that I had some kind of ability to play to be able to read and to be able to kind of handle maybe turned the stress on purposely so that when you get to a stressful Dodge dealership situation that you can just go. Oh this is easy cuz Max Abrams isn't that quote unquote listening outside of the door. I mean exactly. So so basically he'd given me the I could read I could play. Any style of wanted that I so chose but it just happened that I'd I was very into Motown. I was very into Beatles and you know, and I discovered all the great kind of Studio players, you know, like Jim Gordon Porcaro Gad Purdy all those you know, that great seventies timer had all these guys. So my first gig was a big band gig down on the Isle of Wight like a 10-piece band or something. That was pretty cool. You know, I was fifteen reading it was like six six five or six nights a week and off the back of that. I went onto the QE2 the cruise liner, you know did for a year and there were lots of london-based musicians on that ship and they all said to me you have to move to London. So yeah, I thought okay. Maybe I'll pass. See what happens, you know, and yeah, so it was I was working pretty quickly, but it was very like everything. It's it's all a process. It was very very gradual, you know, which was just what I needed, you know, the kind of be taken regular steps, but kind of small ones, you know, but a really big thing for me was there are two great musicians in London called Jim Mullen a guitar player and Dick Morrisey tenor sax player and those guys had lived in New York for quite a long time and when stuff you know with regard etcetera briccetti all those amazing New York guys, when they when they both went up to Japan Jim Mullen and Dick Morris he put the band together to sub for them at mikells in New York. So they're band was Steve Jordan Cliff Carter all these great New York players, you know and by the late seventies they'd moved back to London. So by the time I moved into London by 81 when I was Nineteen, I got that gig with them and that was a very R&B Groove baseband, you know, so I'd kind of landed on both feet. I couldn't believe it, you know, and they were the great thing about that was they were working at least three nights a week usually for So it was like I was able to make a living, you know at nineteen and doing these great gigs and you know word got out that I could read pretty well and found that that was it. I was play I started doing a lot of little jingles and you know and still do you know things like that TV adverts radio whatever but that was really great life, you know, the Opposites playing lots of different styles. I mean, I love playing big band as much as I love the R&B group thing, you know, so yeah, I was right for the picking I guess, you know, yeah. Yeah. Now what were the gigs like, let's say the the obviously, you know, you said you grew up loving the Beatles. Like what was your experience like playing with Paul McCartney? Yeah. That was great. I did two things with him a one is a it's on his album called her shoot. What's it called flowers in the dirt and it's a very beatley thing to do, but he did this Thursday. He had two tracks that he wanted to link together with a kind of a big band section. And he had a an American arranger called Richard miles arrange a little piece to go to to link the two Tunes, you know home and so we went in and they put the parts out and we he wasn't there at the time McCartney wasn't there and janier said, okay, let's run it down and I'll I'll take it anyway, and we'll we'll have less, you know, so we hadn't played it at all. So we run it down and Richard went into the control room written ours. Well, I think we all did and he said wow, that's exactly what I want. Exactly. Wow. He said sick. He said I'll tell you what, let's just leave it like that, you know until Paul gets here and so half an hour later Paul comes in and he's like, hey, good morning everybody. How's it going? You know off and how's it going? You know and Richard said well, I think we've done it and he says, oh well, let me have listened so he had listed here. Yeah, I like it. Sounds great. He said but no one gets to leave. And and we were like, oh well, and he said I haven't heard you guys play it. So we we had to go back out in the room and we played it live just for him and they didn't record it and he said, okay now you can leave just like the real deal. It's just very it was so great, you know, and I've got to hang out with them a little bit that day and then he called me back which was really need us to do a I've never done expand at all, but he did get to do a great single. I just hope it it was released month, but I just hope it gets to be heard one day because it was a it was Linda McCartney's 45th birthday. So, of course, he made a 45 single for her of a choose called Linda an old standard called Linda a double a-side with two different versions want a big band and one month. Good kind of Cuban version cool. Yeah, and he it's like a box of ten singles and he at the end of that session he'd had them pressed and both times she got there. It was wrapped in ribbon and he presented it to her as a birthday present and we were oh my God, this is unbelievable, you know, and at the end of that session I was sitting in the back and seen it was great. I was sitting on my own waiting for a cab and they came over and sat at my table and said, oh do you mind if we join you and I said no God, please do and he said I'm starving. You know, he said do you want something to eat? I said, yeah, I'm starving too. And he said let's get some there's a a very foul Liverpool bit of slang for a sandwich. It's called a booty. He said what about cheese butties you fancy cheese booty, you know, and I said, yeah, that'd be great. So he called them. Every cent 8 3 cheats booties and T please you know, and that was it and I thought oh my God, this is amazing. That's it. I can retire right now, you know, yeah, that is so cool. I do offer a cassette copy of that but I I've never heard the actual. I wish I could have got my hands on one of those ten singles, but hopefully it will be available at some point, you know. Yeah, I'd love to walk but wow sneak out onto the internet somehow, you know, that'd be great man before we move forward here. I have to ask to like Star Wars Return of the Jedi wage. Yes. Yeah, famously shot in London, which was like in my little knowledge about it was like riddled with problems with shooting and people not getting along and all that. That's really kind of an interesting side thing. What was your role in that? Yeah. Well in the I don't know exactly what year was ninety something they when they did the remastered versions they deceived I did to add. I wish my boys were here cuz they could tell me exactly what they added but they added little characters I think here and there but in in Return of the Jedi they added a whole scene which was like a nightclub scene. And so apparently I actually have a Star Wars character real name which is called a creative. And so I and one of the guys on drum Hanks actually sent me my Star Wars figure accurate, which is pretty cool. I love it. So, I don't think any I don't think my boys care about any other credit other than I'm active in Star Wars Return of the Jedi to know the level of celebrity who I was talking I was talking to a crash it's crazy. So basically what it and even this with had a really great little Side Story they'd I mean, it's it's old news now. So this one matter of this comes out, but they had Recorded the drums already in LA with Gregg bissonette and it was some Union thing while they couldn't use it. So I they brought the the Jerry. Hey the range of trumpet player. He came over to London and asked this guy took walk-ins. Who's the well probably the finest lead trumpet player ever arguably. We need a drummer and Derek very kindly recommended me. So anyway, I enjoy doing this session for Jerry. Hey for for Return of the Jedi and Jerry handed me the strong part which was written out note-for-note. So I presumed it was a transcription of what Greg had played. So I got very very close to it. You know, and Jerry said to me it's got to be exactly the same, you know, so he said will it became like a game he put Greg up in the left speaker and me and the right. And we would sit in the middle listen to play back and we would go it's close but let's do one more, you know, so, okay. I'll go back out and do another one a whole take not drop in, you know, but we do a whole week off. No, no. No, that's not it. That's not it and after about I'm guessing about, you know, eight or ten takes or something I said to him. That's it. That's it. And he said yeah, I've listened so I wouldn't had a little he at the end. He said, you know one more one more and I said no no. No, it was exactly right. There's not one. There's nothing I could hear and he said I'll show you and there's a simple Crush overhangs for about two bars. And in that silence, you could hear Greg tapping his foot on the hi hat pedal and it was just a game. He said come on to another one with the hi-hat foot in there. And I was like, yeah, come on. So random button. We did another take and I kept my foot and he said that's it man, you know, so but you know, I did get my I thought maybe they'll tell people they need the session and they'll use Greg's take but when I listened to it back I could tell they'd use my take so, you know this little even though two people play together. You can always tell who it is, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, so that was very cool. Yeah, really really that's great session man. Yes. So cool. Yeah. Yeah. That's anything Star Wars is its own kind of like moved to this day. It's still one of the biggest like, you know, I guess it probably means and yeah, is it the biggest what's the word, you know, not French only at all words, you know. Yeah, I think it probably is yeah series of move. You see a yeah. Yeah, probably. I actually I really really love doing movies because it is a different. It's another level of kind of concentration. You don't know what to get handed out. You're going to be playing off and going to be playing live with maybe eighty people in the studio, you know, and you don't often get to do that so man, that is awesome. But so now I'm going to do something on the show, which is a little bit different. We're actually going to switch gears, you know, you've been working with a gentleman named Russ Gleason on his project called drum hangs down. Russ is a you know, music industry veteran has played for a very long time. So I want to welcome Russ onto the show who's going to talk just about their project drum. Hey, Russ, welcome. Hey Bob. Great to be here. How you doing? Good. This is this is cool. It's like a surprise guest for for listeners. Yeah. Yeah popped in at the end, you know, yeah, it's be here Thursday. So cool. So so why don't you just tell us what drum hangs is just tell us all about it and then we'll close out with that think that's a good way to end the episode. Yeah. Well, I think I think back to the day so happy lockdown success story I guess and there was so much obviously we know what's happened with the covid-19. And I say oh, you know, we've had an hour and we're just playing and he said I was good that and I said he said oh might do some Zoom lessons and I said, no your Neil Wilkinson. I'm not letting you do Zoom lessons. No way I said, hey, I've got this idea and I'd already thought about this idea. And I said look what you do next Saturday. Let's invite some people along and she can do a group Zoom thing and you can talk you can play and people will want to see you. So we did it on the Saturday. I just put it out some friends and we had about sixty people turn up and we were like, oh, oh and the energy that came off the screen when it happened. It was like everyone just went yes like this Buzz of being so uninterested in music and untrue interested in their drummer and to actually fill this inspiration just bounced off the screen and so we were like, wow it just like two hours just flew by wow. That was amazing. So we thought well do age Again next week. And in the meantime, I've been speaking with Nate Smith. Who's who's someone? I know and I've done some sort of put on some stuff with him before and been to a lot of gigs. And so I'd said to him. Hey Nate you want to be a guest on this thing? I'm doing and he said yeah, absolutely. So we announced at the end of the second one would kneel at night was going to join us and sometimes a picture of everyone's face in the gallery and they just couldn't believe it. So, you know, it was like, wow we go. It's going to happen. So we went downstairs after the hangar and had dinner with my wife and I pray for my Instagram. I'll see Nate would be joining us and then about 5 minutes of digging into my my career that we're eating my phone starts dinging distinct things like that. Oh my God, what's happening? And it turns out now shared on his story. And of course, he's got 200,000 Instagram followers. So I'm up for two nights running the responding to inquiries just I didn't expect him to suck. At all, you know, I just I was going to be me and my friends, you know, so and then that cause happened so then we had people from twenty different countries around the world joining us and it was amazing our language and nearly always does sort of intro at the start. We used to share some ideas and then the guest comes on and it's very relaxed in for more spontaneous and people get to interact with their Heroes, you know, and we've had Steve gadd spent on twice when he call you it has been on Jack dejohnette Jim Keltner. Simon Phillips is on tomorrow night. Obviously this go out a different time. But but then it's Chambers. Ma Juliana. Chicken. Cordon McClain Jonathan Blake David Garibaldi, Steve Jordan Gavin Harrison. I mean the list goes on Robinson, you know, the great drummers of all time of being on drum Hanks and people are going to talk to their Heroes directly, you know, and it said dream and and to be honest it's a complete accident and my my home For doing it was because I realized all my favorite drummers probably had their work was probably cancelled. Well, it was you know, nobody was working and I wanted to support them and I wanted to connect dramas worldwide and that's kind of our tag line is connected dramas worldwide and I had to put the website together drum Hanks.com and we'll have just been running since then and and playing music as well. I know he's about being in the moment and this whole thing with John pants has been about being in the moment, you know, yeah off and it's completely I'm running, you know, the base that are running and like I say, we've got people from you know over thirty countries around the world joining us every week and month. It's still very relaxed. It's the same as how it started, you know, but can you let me clarify too. So people know like Like it's not like a zoom lesson where they're actually like like is it more of like you just kind of sit and listen and they talk about the drums and they they kind of share some stories and they play a little bit for me. It's kind of like watching like a clinic at a Drum Shop. Yeah, right. Yes, The Dramatics we we don't record anything. It's all live in the moment. The artists are very very relaxed are at home and they're sharing stories about their insights into music. They're also doing a bit of playing if they want to and you're you're seeing them really open up because we're not putting on YouTube. It's like an old school clinic in a way people can ask them directly questions and speak to them, you know, so they can meet their Heroes and it's really an amazing thing because if you were to meet a guy like say for example you bump into Vinnie colaiuta a gig you're going to be so nervous, but because of the community we've built up everyone's there together and we we all know that someone's going to ask the right question of the day. Go deep, you know what? I mean? And then yeah, it's very cool what's happened? You know because everyone is is a lot of camaraderie with the whole thing. I've met people from all around the world people will sometimes tell me. Hey Russ like do you want to zoom to get to know each other and I've met all these people, you know, I've never felt so connected when I've been signing my house since March, you know, so, you know where to make lemonade out of lemons. I mean, I think that's that good things can come from such a A really kind of you know bad situation that we've all been put in. So it's it's it's cool and and I want to point out too that these are obviously there's a little bit of a conversion with from Volvo pounds to you know for me US dollars, but these are not that expensive you're not charging $200 for a half hour. I mean these are these are really wage very affordable. Yeah. Yes, and and I didn't want to sort through the whole thing where this it's costs so much money, you know, it's like almost like a crowdfunded thing in a way, you know life which is excellent with supporting my heroes, you know, and we're connecting everyone at the same time and you know, I'm very much a drama, you know, and we're talking about teachers and I studied with the great Jim Blackley who lives in Canada and Bob Armstrong, we will see what to Max so, you know and and Neil is a real Mentor for me as well. And so I have a real love for all these people and all these people from a far-off. Make them my friends food listening to them. You know, I'm so familiar with these peoples playing and the amazing thing about the hands is you get such an insight into the personality off the when you listening to them after the hangs. You kind of hear them in a different way. You hear them as the person as well as crazy. Yeah, so it's yeah, we've we've really kind of hit on something which is very profound. I think yeah, that's so cool. I'm gonna I'm going to definitely pick one out here in the next month or so and and and do one cuz I feel like where I'm like God I need to you know, get around other drummers and be around other people and keep that motivation up exactly exactly and and I think it was so scary when they lock down happened. You didn't feel like listen to music. You didn't feel like getting to the drums both Neil and I felt like that and to actually have this thing of like to be surrounded by light off. People were all that kind of together and it's it's a really wonderful thing. You know, it's it's magic what happens to be honest. I mean I've got I've got so many stories of coming out of this thing. I don't think anyone's probably dealt with 40 of the world's greatest drummers in the last four months. Like I have I mean, I I'm writing a book about the whole thing because it's it's seriously astonishing. I mean I could sell you some of the stories on there, but I'd probably want to save it to be honest. Yes, so, okay cool. Yeah, that's so cool. I mean it's all coming together for good and just like we're all drummers no matter how big you are at the end of the day. So again people can go that's drum happenings. That's spelled exactly how it sounds and Yeah, yeah will be pleased to welcome you and you know come and join the family because and the guys, you know who are special guests they pop in and say hi. You know, I mean you can be on a hang off. I mean you can be on a hang reject the internet and Vinny might be there or you know, I mean, you never know who's going to swing by so it's pretty cool. You know, it's pretty yeah, it sounds like it's back into the thing like the I don't know. You know what I mean? Like the the like the hang for lack of a better term. It's like the the drummer's spot. So congratulations. I mean really that's that's so cool for both you and Neil to be you know, yeah and so have Neil involved is just magic, you know, because he's he's like I say, he's one of the greats, you know, and yeah, so it's it's a real dream and I have to kind of go wow, but you know it all stems from my love of music and my love of listening to these guys forever, you know, and yeah, they're they're more all my heroes, you know, and yeah, it's it's a great thing. So yeah. Yeah, perfect. Well, I think that's a super cool way to end the episode. So first thank you to kind of our our surprise ending guess Thursday or Russ Gleason. Which again drum hangs.com go check it out. I'll be on there on one soon for sure and I'll post about it and hopefully people who like drum history can log. And then we can all hang and watch one of our favorite drummers together. I mean that sounds like a, you know, just a amazing thing to do to connect with people who like my show on your platform with one of our favorite drummers. It just couldn't be more. Drumi, you know, so awesome. Well, thank you Russ and then a huge huge. Thank you, obviously to Neil Neil. Thank you for being on the show me. Thank you. But yeah real real pleasure. I feel like we could do another couple of hours easily. You know, it's great to really great. Absolutely. Well, and I should also call you a Creve Coeur. That's right. Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you to both you guys, and I hopefully I can we can hang soon and one of the upcoming drum hangs be great to see you anytime you want to swing by about just let me know. All right. See you guys. Wonderful. Thanks so much part. If you like this podcast find me on social media at drum history, and please share rate and leave a review and let me know topics that you would like to learn about the future until next time keep on learning. 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"Ed cases that live and breathe sports and food For God's Sakes two and a half weeks of the final four is great home gaining time. You can't not be around your TV. So so why not include the patio the hot tub. You've got all the efficiencies of the home and it just makes you know Game Day food and organization a lot better so we have a little phrase we tend to use around superbowl time and Super Bowl. Parties called upper crust upper-crust tailgating for God's Sakes Punch showed side your whip. We your weight class. You know Sunday's the time to do what we call excess in moderation all right We Love Tapa style style. A lot of finger foods. Such they're famous for that. Own at an raiders. Parking lot I was talking about this with way back And just so so many different types of foods and getting a lot but bring it home and all that excess bliss do it up do it up. Well marinates me do a lot of finger foods. But you're far more capable and you've got a lot more time to do it while you're at home so that access in moderation phrases certainly applicable to super bowl. We're speaking with the Grid Iron Chef doc here I you know I always figure because some people say hey look to just keep it simple. Can you just grow up a dog or a patty. And I'm like look if if that's what you WanNa do that's is great but to me variety is the spice of it. If you want to go out there and make Sushi you know whatever whatever you do I I like the fact that I got multiple choices. It's the best. Hey if you can get Sushi grade fish for your super bowl Sunday or in the parking lot. I don't care where you are you you know whatever rose your boat. I'm telling you that's great but I kinda about ten years ago in serving a lot of people on Game Day. We had Philadelphia up in Buffalo and and I did six courses but we just started to think about rather than big courses just continual tapa style food. We did coca-cola a little CIA marinated chicken followed by stone big pizza followed by Scampi followed by a small part of Jambalaya. Just enter Mitten Mytton courses and then you can get into all kinds of different foods. And I'm a big saints fan so I do a lot of Cajun Creole and you do occasion. I got a great tailgate. Tailgate shrimp recipe. We're GONNA apostrophe A. L. E. so it's a beer cage shrimp we're GONNA be publishing on the Game Day. Media feeds here for Super Bowl. Oh and it was featured in draft magazine. But that's a seven minute course with a good cold beer do those intermittently and I think you're you're crowd will be far more pleased. Do you have speechless do this for fun. You talked about the final four. I'm going to give you your final four. Hopefully this is not our last day on the planet. The let's say it is what what are your four four things that they could put on a plate in front of you right now for food would items. Yeah right the first of my favorite meat item is something I'd featured in USA. Today is called BLACKTOP. Flank marinated in Sherry race. Oy and a lot of fresh garlic. That's my pro team. You know you gotta be some Red Meat in there you know. It's meats like football's not like defense defense. Where don't have to have it but if you don't have enough of it you kill your party so How that I've got to have some smoked onion dips? So there's gotta be some sort of depth yep with some grilled Pitas and Nachos not just the standardized nachos I gotta definitely have some seafood Of some sort. Whatever rose your boat there but finish off with something sweet and I'll give you your listeners? WanNa really great simple desert finish off off with some good craft beer and a good sweet dessert. How about a chocolate peanut butter one time later deep fry with a little a bit of powdered sugar? You get that savory that melted chocolate in a one time gift to the Chris so that that's kind of the perfect fair for me. It's a little bit of everything. Diversity versity and still that excess in moderation principle. So what are you. What are you eating? Well I did I would probably say a I'm going to need A sausage pizza from favorite place. I'm going to need Probably a Spider role Sushi I would probably have a bacon double cheeseburger and then I I would have This isn't the official term but a big ass shake. That's what I was nice. Yeah and listen you can do that for two and a half half weeks we say final four but really I don't know but anyway but I I am. I engineer a new sandwich every year. For twelve o'clock tip off off traditionally before the sixty eight you know when back when I was forty eight teams and Thursday afternoon was appointment. TV and you had to have your food food ready and It certainly just like the masters or any great sporting event on TV. So I home getting so applicable. And you don't have to spend that the three day planning of Layering your your dishes and planning your travel and there's a lot of logistical planning. That goes into tailgating whether it's the three-day tailgate at a NASCAR. Race or just something on a four five hour six hour tailgate at an. NFL are just like the raiders. But at home you've got the benefit of the pantry. The full fridge the Fraser and not have to move your fat Butt and you just Park yourself from twelve o'clock until midnight and and home getting necessary. 'cause you gotta eat but or you're dying or you're on the couch yes well what would you say. And I'm pretty confident I I but when it comes to being a chef I'm I'm just not that good and I'll make something and I'll just kind of thing in the back of the my my my mind. I well if I made it. It's not that good. What advice advice would you give outside of? Just grow up and be a man to to the to the maybe the chef. That doesn't have the confidence that what he or she is doing is going to be any good. And you gotTa let the quote unquote experts handle it. Well I a lot of that A lot of moving across that threshold is something about you know I coach and we talk about being comfortable with being uncomfortable and I. I'll tell you I introduced a lot of people to marry nations and SUV lead. You know sue. VDI We do. I got guys at Suva in the parking lot. Talk about fresh seafood. There's an application for fresh seafood. But I will just say. Try some new mayor nations. 'cause because a Lotta Game Day or whether it's in the parking lot or at home is about prep but you want flavor and marinating and brining using liquid That steak recipe. I gave you a twenty four hour marinade a fresh garlic soy and Sherry which is an not just wine it's Sherry California Sheri's perfect perfect for it but prepatory allows you to do extend punch outside your weight class on game. Day marinate some food. If uh if you're not confident in smoking traditional smoking smoke something smoke something simple like a lawyer. Tenderloin do some reading getting all the resources are on the Internet. It's their punch outside your weight class and don't be self conscious about it. You know. We Love Game Day food. Generally everybody's nobody's got a couple of Debbie's in them so you tend to lower the bar in your game day food the more varied if at so just get comfortable with being uncomfortable. I think that would do. You will just got about a minute left. And we know that you nail so many So many food choices. What's one that? Oh you is there one that you never really could do. And you're like I'm not even GonNa try and make that 'cause I always make a hash out of it. Well I tried to make Sushi. She wants you really need. A Course I tell you. I came back from a Sushi restaurant and I had smoked. Salmon Smoked Salmon Sushi. That just blew my mind as part of the boat I had ordered and I paid twenty bucks and he came back. I tried my best Rick I forget it. You know the let the Sushi expert. Serve me that I'm not just not good at it. That's for sure I'd like to be. You can only be Jack of so many trades so aw that's weird because that's supposed to be just raw fish it is but there there's a there the if you watch the great Sushi artists from Japan there isn't there is an art to it that that some watch some of those great chefs from Japan. You really need years of proper for preparation and education to do it. So there is the Gridiron chef. Doc might hear him a little bit more on sports pilot but he's the Co host of the tailgate radio and the also tailgate Home Gay Nation as well Jeff. Thanks for your time appreciate how good bowl and We'll catch up with you soon. My friend hey listen on behalf half of my co host. The Grill Sergeant John Large as we say keep the drinks called the grill. 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Go Navy and go niners. You're listening to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper Vivey on the sports byline I'm broadcasting network. The show Brian Alvarez here wrestling observer live Mike Super VP. Jim Valley's here in studio today. This person here says. Is it a coincidence that just a week before the launch of the XFL. Jorge Mario Michelle Wilson. Were let go by Vincent. Well my friend I think that has zero to do with the XFL. But yes W E announced a big management shakeup yesterday to members of the leadership no longer with the the company Co Presidents. George Borrows and Michelle Wilson Gone. Effective immediately will no longer serve on the company's board of directors directors. They had been with the company over ten years. They were there helping. Get me the Fox deal there. Two point three billion dollar television deal over five years. They're gone. I would like to thank George Michelle for their ten plus years of service contribution to the organization. Vince McMahon said. I am grateful foil for all those accomplished during their tenure but the board and I decided a change was necessary as we have different views on on how best to achieve our strategic priorities. Moving forward in other words. They had an idea and he had an idea. Guess who won Vince. So they're out of here by the way yesterday on twitter. This story was on twitter and people were talking about it and everything like that. And there's all these crazy. WWe fans the guys like everything is all right. We just fire to tenure executives. But don't worry about it. Everything is all right. This person insists it's tell me. Of course they have a plan. Well well here in. WBZ's own release. It is noted. Frank a Riddick is the company's interim cfo they have begun a search for a CFO etta chief revenue officer. You know it's too bad they didn't have it a couple of weeks ago because you know being. WWe President would have been a hell of a price to win the royal rumble. Sure but the point of this is no. They didn't have a plan now. Then have people take these these roles they just fired. Bartelson Jason Wilson. And now they've got to figure out who is going to replace them the stock at this moment forty eight dollars and thirty. I four cents. I know this has nothing to do with the XFL but as coincidence would have it next. Thursday is the fourth quarter of twenty nineteen and full year earnings report for me. It's her. It's her call so I mean obviously they're going to have a lot of money coming in because the television deals kicked in at the end of October over so they've got giant. TV money coming in and they've got Saudi money coming in so I wouldn't be surprised if they had like a very profitable a quarter but the fact of the matter is about six months ago these investors started to figure out that even though things look too good with Fox and Nisa and that they finally after all this time started looking at all of the little things that Debbie markers of of overall popularity celerity and every single one of those markers was down and if I recall correctly I predicted that the domestic S.. Tick me network number was going to be below one million for the first time since twenty fifteen. I was ridiculed for this well. We'll get back to me this coming Thursday. I bet you anything that network number in the US is below one million subscribers. I'll bet you anything. It's the lowest since two thousand fifteen and we can't say why I don't know why people quit but I do know one thing which is really gonNa make people mad. I know that. WWe Put exte- On the USA Network for Free One of besides the pay per views. I mean you know Dr w network live wrestling a wrestling shows and besides the pay per views. What else are people getting the network for? Will they were getting the network for an xt not and if you put an xt for free for two hours on the USA network. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they lost subscribers because of that because has now people can get it for free on USA. And that's one of the reasons that the network number is going to end up being so low. So yes in some ways you you can blame a e W for Michelle Wilson and borrows here being fired. Not all the reason. But I'll bet that's part of moving annex t off the network. It's still on the network but you know got seven hundred thousand people watching it every single week on USA. How many people do you think we're watching it on the US that were? Let me tell you somebody who was way lower than seven hundred thousand so this is the story and anything else about it. We don't know what the issues news world with. Vince Borrows Wilson. We may never know. I'm sure they they've got their nondisclosure agreement I'm sure they've got their their settlement or whatever. It's called their their their severance package. We may never know what happened here but we are going to know a lot next Thursday when we actually do this earnings call. So we'll see what happens. Mike any thoughts on this well. It's the stock still seems somewhat uh over inflated hit forty eight dollars it just it always blew my mind. That thing went from God at one point nine when really we started to heat up. I guess it was around thirteen fourteen than it exploded two to nearly going to one hundred dollars in. It's amazing when the the network numbers as you say. Ah Down when how shows are down when merchants shows are canceled when ratings. Are you know ridiculously down It's amazing that in but it industry best based on speculation and and based on flashy numbers and influence and can be swayed you know the the market love. WWe In his loved it for quite some time and at some point that was going to burst in. I guess it has happened now. I think maybe you're we're reaching a little bit with the a w thing is relates to to borrow some Molson because I can't even that being the straw that broke the camel's back when when he came to the network and he came to borrow some Wilson just because the blame of that goes on everybody. When it comes to that network? I actually gave them some credit that they would have a plan. Stand by this call with an idea of what they were going to do. And maybe they will but what they're going to do for twenty twenty as far as tears as far as programming programming all that sorta stuff I doubt it. They could but I gave him credit as they were going to have some sort of plan. They don't seem to have any plan at all they have. I'm not replaced annex. T was something that that makes the network a draw. They haven't even haven't even tried so you know. Obviously there a a heavy time for them right now the XFL distraction but just on the wrestling. And you're going into your bill to Wrestlemanias so you do have a lot of that stuff going on and I'm sure they're going to try to sell that as hard as they possibly can. How great things all right? Now Hey Brian Alvarez folks said they were going to have our best ever over run towards Wrestlemainia in quite some time have faith. That's what they're going to say. You know everybody's remain calm. Everything is okay but obviously everything's not okay okay after the rumble I was thinking your prediction. Brian may turn out to be true. And then after yesterday I'm like. Yeah your predictions dead in the water water. It's not there's still there's still hope Jimmy kidding me knew. This could not have advocated worse time wrestlemainia season Super Bowl this weekend and then once the Super Super Bowl is over here in Seattle we're seeing The rollout of the your Seattle. XFL Dragons and. I'm sure it's going to be more in earnest. After the Super Bowl there are a lot of things happening right now. There were questions before and now with this huge shakeup. It's it's like a tempest in its e potties eighties. It's bad and I have a theory. It's GonNa take a little time so maybe after the break but talking about the network everything right now streaming and everybody who is a content provider now as a streaming service and they're bringing all of their properties back under their umbrellas for their streaming services. And we're seeing shows that are now cross platform. Marvel is going to have shows on Disney lice. That crossover with the movie. So now. In order to follow the Marvel Universe you need to have Disney plans to follow all of it and that's going to be the strategy and you know wrestling or not. Everyone is familiar with that. So I'm sure there are. There are a lot the people on Wall Street saying putting something off of your streaming service and onto a network goes against the complete trend right now and that's going to be bad and why they do that. A. W. and. Whose decision was that Vince? And who took the blame on to blame for a lot of things back in a moment. It's over live life black and at twenty eight. I'd struggled with opioid addiction for twelve years. I didn't said things that the sober me never would have done one day. I realized I was not invincible. Was Not exempt. And that's when a friend told me about the early Rehab Place. When they gave the tools I needed to get sober and all it took was the one phone? 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They were cancelling. And they were quitting and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Then we the earnings call and they had a huge surge of pay per view of Network subscriptions descriptions the day after the real room so one one bad main event is not causing people to give up on the product it is a long slow decline and people just get out of the habit and they just they stop. It's a trickle. It is not an event that almost never happens that there's an invent that causes people. Just quit something. They trickle trickle trickle trickle trickle. Because everybody has a different thing when they're like dude I'm not watching and they're done now and x t is different. That isn't event because there are a lot of people that are done with the main roster but they still watch annex t I I hear from them all the time out in the real world and I don't think it's like a massive cancellation but if the network was at one point one million million US subscribers and they took an x t off the network and they put it on the USA network which now seven hundred thousand some people watching Annex T. Yeah I can see it going from one point one two nine hundred ninety easily. I don't think it went from one point. One to five hundred thousand and they're not gonna Zap many people because they take that at work but I guarantee there was a percentage of people that had the network that had the network for an extreme and they took it off the network but like does anybody watching extend the network if it's on USA network. I don't i. How many people do that? You're telling me there are art. Twenty five thousand people that decided okay. It's on the USA network. Now I can save might nine ninety nine a month and just watching every Wednesday. I think it's a very real possibility posssibility but no I do not think they lost tons of people because I mean the the estimate that we had when when there was at Saudi show was like thirty five thousand thousand people quit because of the Saudi show and chances are twenty thousand of them came back for the royal rumble or for whatever the next big pay per view was they got. They got furious serious. They quit and then they came back. That's thirty five thousand people if that's what they lost. Saudi Arabia show in the middle of that whole controversy. Then no I don't think there was a sizeable number that left. Because of Helena sell I the only thing I want to throw in ear is. Don't don't think that that Saudi he showed didn't have some effects and also there were people that just very quietly over every there's nothing quiet anymore who social media. There's always GonNa be somebody screaming about something but I think with that Saudi show and and a st not being on there and he could be a mix of things where people just what. I'm just not going to give the money and and I think there are there obviously because you see. Aws crowd every single week. There are people that are actively actively against wwe and and giving them any money for anything at any time at any point ever and have really kind of ice them outside of maybe one thing here or there that they're definitely not we're GONNA pay for this kind of where their hat right now with a lot of people and they have they're not dealing with people who are apathetic towards them in wrestling right now with some fans and some potential customers that they have. They're dealing with a group that is you know fearlessly anti what they're doing an anti title they stand for and I'm not saying that number's growing. I'm not saying it's massive. But it is I think significant enough Brian Logan Pauly's yes a youtube superstar Loganville. I saw today that he had another boxing match. And he's been doing this for awhile. A matter of fact one of these matches that he had one point. Three million pay per view buys on pay per view this claim yeah medium the dying medium that nobody uses that everybody hates Blah Blah Blah. One point nine million. We got one point three million. I had to check to make sure it's not nineteen ninety eight when I saw that number. How was he able to do that? The matches are terrible and and it's not because he's on youtube or tick tock or twitter or any other social media. BUZZWORD has nothing to do with the medium itself he is successful because because he has an emotional connection with his audience and they care and they follow him and they pay their money. He's able to convert these social show media metrics to money which. WWe Cannot do. No one cares. There is no emotional investment in wwe and then it hit me today. You want to know why the fifty year old plus people watch annexed. WWe while they do so well in those numbers that is the last generation that wwe made an emotional connection with twenty years no emotional connection and unless there. There was something with the impeachment and the death of Kobe Bryant. There's no real emotional connection with edge coming back twenty years. Nobody nobody cares and you want to know why cares. Because I don't know who these people are. Who is Roman reigns? What does he stand for? I know he's the big dog is supposed to remind me of the undertaker because to me it sounds like the t shirts fat guys where at barbecues. I don't know who he is. There is no emotional connection. A non league that compare it to eight. W When Adam page debuted everyone was very excited and when I saw his match with Chris Jericho and after that you like home. Maybe he's not quite there yet. And we have had episodic television that has told the story and made people invested in Adam Adam page and told us who Adam page is what he wants his frustrations obsessed with the title. He's all these things about him when. WWe Me when Roman reigns comes out for a promo. It's always exposition. It's not about character development. It's last week. King Corbin jumped dog food on me. Well let me tell you King Corbin. We're now going to have an extra match tonight. And we're GONNA fight for a stipulation it's never character development. It's always about the next match and these next matches. Everybody knows if they're going to stretch these things out. You'RE GONNA have a first match. Then there's going to be some kind of small's which will lead to some second match Wjr with some stipulation and then the third match and Rondo another competitor. It's like it's not real storytelling. It's like adding water to soap to make it go farther. Well the big issue to me is. Nobody feels real on W. E. television. And that's the end of the story. I mean it's so emotional connection it so over-produced that every single person that you see on WCTC produced. There's no no it is back store. I it's over produced because Baxter you don't know these people people because overproduced like everybody has to read from a script the fast and furious movies. They're overproduced people still talking to different kind of overproduce. I'm talking about you have to read a script. You have to be a character you have to be one dimensional like a name a name of character and W who is not one dimensional original name one and not only that well hold on so the double whammy for Debbie. Okay the W. W. Wrestlers. Because they're allowed so much freedom but I watched the show I at least feel that they're all real people and maybe the heels thinker despicable. Maybe I like the baby faces. Whatever but I feel like they're all real people it's storytelling and some scripting? They're allowed freedom to be who they are are look at Jon. Moxley Jon Moxley. NWEA is dean. Ambrose was a one dimensional character. He was a wacky guy. That was it that was the character. He's a wacky guy. There was zero dimension to him he had to read Wacky promos. He had to say wacky things. None of this was who he was in St John Oxley. I was on the boat with the guy for five days. That's exactly how he is in real life when it went in the boat. This this dude was Jon Moxley. He wasn't and I'm GonNa talking in the ring. I'm talking on the boat. He was not Tina. Umbro's that's who that guy is. They're allowed to be who they are in w either overproduce the double whammy is on social media. They're real life. Life personalities are so unlikable in almost every case maybe the exceptions like Kofi Kingston. A and biggie. They never get involved in this stuff but it on TV. They're not real and on social media where they're supposed to be real they're completely unlikable ecoboost so you have this double whammy here of how can you get behind anybody. It's impossible. It's literally impossible to get behind. Find almost anyone. I think there's something to be said for episodic television and W eight power. They've seen some growth may be small but they've seen it a w do you know each week. Why tune in? Oh we're going to get ten lashes this week or this is going to happen with. WWe television maybe he'll know match attached. But is this just going to be a match is going to be an angle. They don't give you those breadcrumbs to keep you coming back anymore. There I think one something that is topping with e w and w powers the importance of episodic television and they did that in the attitude era things lead to another thing naturally truly and something was going to happen next week and they told you about it and you look forward to it so that day came and you oh yeah Roz on. This is going to happen. Stone Cold Steve Austin now I go Roz on and I have no idea what's going to happen. Because they don't do episodic television anymore. How about a bunch of long story? Short like what was wrong with pro wrestling in. WWE's insistence on making it something other than what it is and they have been successful in some ways with it but the further they have gotten away from that the more they have lost the plot more they have tried to do everything and re imagine everything how people stand what they say how they are as Vincent attached. Though you know everybody's puppet man dancing prevents and unfortunately this is the result. 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Here's some music to get you pooped. Yeah I hear your budget laughing at you. Oh wait that's just those kids laughing at me casualty. Insurance Company and affiliates price and coverage match limited by State Law You're listening to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike V on the sports byline broadcasting network. The Braille is year wrestling observer. Live Mike Zimmer. Even Jim Valley. Here's one a gym can tackle. I know he's a fan. I in here. Who says perfect example of overproduce? This weekend me Lacey Evans. Look at her promo everything she said was real about her life but felt so forced with unnecessary melodrama. So if you saw that segment on smackdown Jim I bet you a thousand dollars that if you had an equivalent amount of time on Saturdays Wrestling Observer live with Lacey Evans. You would get a five thousand housing times better interview out of her. You couldn't be right. Because she just be Lacey Evans telling her Real Story Lacey Evans hasn't done this for very long to beef for one. She may not have the instincts develop yet it does. It does take time we right but what I'm saying is like that's a real story. Yeah so she has done this forever for for her whole life right all you have to ask her about it and let her just tell you her story as opposed to being the evil Sassy southern bell whatever that will scripted. They scripted her life for her to say I think it's more about storytelling and more about giving character development instead of just exposition. And that's that's what they did do with her. They need to do more of that. Let me give another example. You know who succeeded. Because they became real the new day and the new. Who'd at one point or the number one merchandise sellers in all of WWe? I'LL TAG team. Can you believe that. Not Single performance but a lowly tag. Eddie met Vince has been trying to get rid of tag team wrestling for years and they overcame that they started out they were were they an evil church choir. I don't know what they were but they overcame. That actually started as a baby face church choir. Whatever they work hated but either way they overcame that and now they're real people see that there's the real relationship and that's why they are still over to this Dan they've lasted much longer than so many other acts in? WWe because they're real real and you understand who they are and what they stand for. There's a problem also with top baby faces. There are three holes. They put these people in you. You get the Stone Cold Steve Austin Treatment Becky Lynch the man which they screw up every time you get the rock treatment which it looks like Keith lease getting that and maybe drew McIntyre tire or your inspirational John Cena. And that's it. That's what you get on annex t when I saw keithly and he was like on now he's giant rock and there's been a progression of how they're producing and developing him and giving him trademarks limitless catchphrase as whatever that means it. Sounds more like a catchphrase for commercial for unlimited appetizers at Applebee's or something. I don't mind limitless. What does that mean for him that he can reach anything so it just? I don't know he's not going to be the rock. The Rock is the greatest of all time. God God likes the rock more than any of us and as great as Keith Lee is nobody can be the rock so find what works for him. Because maybe it'll work but I don't know but quit. It's like the same. Three pegs always resist speaking of the network. Why haven't they fixed it? Well that listen. There's no one event but if people really didn't like the whole Saudi deal and they he really hated Helen his cell and these pay per views have been letting them down and on top of all of that the network is having one issue after another. Yes that could also lead to cancellations nations. I have blown my stack on the show countless times because of this network having issues and the answer is and I don't have a good. I don't have a good explanation. The Nation for what happened here but they left Bam tech which was their longtime from from the day that the WWe networks started. They'd been on Vam tech they left Bam tech and they literally had to rebuild the WB network from scratch. And it still glitch. E Glitch Ritchie Glitzy Galore. Now they're working on it and they've been working on it for a long time. The answer that I don't have to this problem is was. Is this an abrupt departure from Bam Tech Book. The heck happened where they had to depart with an w network built from scratch. That was totally like like. Why wasn't that thing built and tested? And then he left Pam Tech. I don't have an answer to this but yeah I can see that being an issue for a very small percentage of people I don't I don't think if you love the w network and you love watching shows on there and you'll love the pay per views. I don't see the fact that you have a hard time. Fast forwarding. Being a reason to tons of people are going to quit but I think that that it could be an aspect of it. I think a lot of this stuff. It is just A. It's a compilation of things. It's a collection of things over time that has done this damage now. Wall Street is catching up to it. And you know I guess. The Front Office is catching up to their own trip. UPS convinces doing Vince. Does right now but you know when it comes to the network same thing and skin all of those things I think have played a part in why people have just said to hell with it. I I don't think it's ever won any one thing. It's never usually ever one thing unless at thing is so incredible and you know the Saudi deal. There are a lot of people who probably left and he didn't come back. I think it's probably more than you might be giving it some credit for a but you know. I think it's just a collection of things now. One thing has sunk. WWe In their creative creative or overtime. It's been many things as we keep pointing out here literally every single day and as jim new appointed out here. Today it's just it's it's this whole collection of things and getting away from what they should be and again. This is vincent puppet show and until Vince. Make some changes until again until Vince. Make some changes really. We're spinning our wheels here and things are GonNa go there going. Hey runs you remember in nineteen ninety-seven when WCW. Did you see W overtook. WWe And the paper views were down. Then do you remember the attitude that wwe took convinced took how so fan fan fan-friendly they tried to be. Bring your signs in do this. We love the fans and they really paid a lot of lip service and tried to have a very fan friendly face face on themselves. I would start there and knock off the stuff about toxic fans or we wanna pick all the things apart or it's all adult fans translate to all the time it's always because of the fans you know they're used to fame or the wrestlers pretended to the fan's faces that it was real if you wanna be frustrated by fan interaction that's completely understandable but you some K- fame and fake it publicly go home and explain well part of it is they have the heels they the fans and then the baby faces come defend the fans so do that yes we know well in theory we know that what Seth Rollins is saying is just what Vince thinks is and what he thinks but I mean they claim that like he's just being a bad guy we actually love you fans is just as despicable seth rollins character that hates you who comes and rescues excuses. I think we have fewer friends than aged us will. You don't have a lot of France. Yeah ratings for Wednesday yes. Mike never good ratings for Wednesday so so dynamite eight hundred twenty thousand viewers and annexed on USA seven hundred and twelve thousand viewers so they were about one hundred a and ten thousand viewers apart which is not a huge. It's not a huge number but the demos once again the eighteen to forty nine demo for for a w they were third. I believe which I think is the best they've ever done and annex t was thirty-seven and that's all the eighteen to forty nine and to be fair because people get so angry raw was one two and three in the demos. And what's funny is people want me to talk about the raw demos because they can say oh see roster and great even though these numbers are down Ross doing great well to be perfectly honest robbing one two three in the demos I can paint that as a negative because there was zero royal rumble bump on that show okay if if there were zero royal rumble bump but there was like a bunch of stuff with Kobe Bryant or the impeachment or whatever there was like dominating in the eighteen to forty nine then you can say well hey you know that's okay. They didn't ever royal rumble bump but everybody was watching something else. Guess what. Everybody wasn't watching something else while one two and three the Kobe Bryant Trivia game or whatever did a million viewers when raw got affected by actual real life football ballgames fourteen. Fifteen million was one million none of this. None of this had an effect on W. E. W. E. had no post royal rumble bump because people didn't care that's slightly distressing but yes. They were one two and three. So it's not like the end of the world but a w the number three annex t thirty seven not really much else to say about it. It was very very average day in the ratings. This is probably largely where they're going to stay and steel the up a little bit. They'll be down a little bit. Awb up a little bit. They'll be down a little bit but this is where they're at they were down one hundred thousand viewers combined overall but that could also have been people watching other stuff in in DVR ing because both shows are doing over one million viewers if you add in the plus seven so wrestling on Wednesday is not doing terribly and wwe on Monday as far as like the prime demo. They're not doing terribly either. So there's far all our bigger problems than than these and you know what they're all easily fixable. It's GONNA take time. It's GonNa take time sure. Well that's look it's again. Let me bring up those words per wrestling again. You know like rebuilding your territory. And they don't have burned to the ground to rebuild it back up again because they have everything at their disposal when it comes to the roster that they have and it's just sometimes going back to simple tenants Randy Nej now granted. There stars no dispute what you said earlier but edge coming back and having no emotion whatsoever that is is incorrect backs me up the ratings. I mean some young people in the crowd. You know really who backs me. Oh you mean the people need to be there anyway it Jim what are you like. Don't go sports radio like hot take battle on me. It just started. Maybe maybe on Sunday. We just had the crowd on Monday Monday. React to people react to on whether edge people it's sparked something we don't know how it's GonNa work out specifically for them yet. But I do know the reaction that he got. I do know the reaction. Let me play man in the middle. I'll play man in the middle. Mike you are right Jim you are right okay. The fans there are there are very emotionally invested in edge. But this did not draw one single new viewer to raw because of edges return so the the lapsed fans don't seem to care that edge came back but absolutely positively the fans that were there on Monday. That was the most emotion that I've seen for a wwe wrestling angle. Since I can't Roman reigns coming back from leukemia because it was not an angle but as far as like an angle or a moment you probably have to go back to Dana Bryant winning the title in two thousand fourteen edges great. But here's the thing now if they paid so much money. WWe To keep him out of AWS hands and he is not having any extra numbers no extra fans. What does that mean? Maybe the next time Awa wants to bring somebody else aboard. There's wwe go. I mean we'll take a pass on this. They're gonNA pay big money. We'll say dude there. Look I mean the Matt Riddle Riddell one is is just the perfect example like they were concerned that he was going to go to new Japan and so they were like okay. Well we'll give them a lot of money and do nothing with them. That was their plan. So you know I can tell you this okay. Last week. The revival asked for their release again. They were not giving their release. They desperately want out and I. I'm sure there's like a number with it w we won't pay for the revival of the revival went to me and said listen. We'll stay but we want one million dollars. Each they would be turned down but the amount of money that they're going to offer the revival to stay when you when you take into account like what they're actually going to deal with the revival. It's ridiculous everybody. There is making can ridiculous money. And they're all in the exact same position they were before this. This is just thrown out money. 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Identify here down. A dollar twenty four. Their stock wasn't anyway and biser homes homes here down three dollars and forty six cents thirteen dollars and forty cents. There is nothing on this chart. I take that back. Credit Except Acceptance Acceptance Corp.. Was Down Thirty eight dollars a share but that was only eight percent so wwe the big winner. Here and stock market declines. I bought some. I've W W E stock today as a matter of fact they had a group on for it so it's a good deal dude. Well I'M NOT GONNA get stock market advice. I did my. There's always. There's always next Thursday I it's IT'S GONNA be bad. Angus research gives advice and the analysts recommendation here on Yahoo who finance sell stock. Po Q I International Medicine Inc was up seventy one percent today. You should have bought that Jim. And it's Medical Rona virus. Yes maybe they found a cure for dave meltzer's cough one life healthcare fifty seven percent up up. Wow all right Jim. Mike always callers and listeners. We didn't listen to you today. We'll talk again next time. Wrestling Observer live You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty. Four seven news in this stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow on facebook twitter and Instagram's uh-huh new service gorgeous cast for January thirty first twenty twenty on Mike Clifford Reuters reporting the. US House passed two pieces of legislation on Thursday they seek to rein in president. Trump's ability to deploy US forces is to fight abroad Reuters as Democratic led House voted nearly along party lines to pass one measure that would prohibit military action against Iran without Congressional approval approval. It also voted to repeal the two thousand two authorization for use of military force for the war in Iraq which presidents have long used to justify a range of military actions. Meantime President Trump signed the United States Mexico. Canada Agreement this week. It could have some impact on states like Maine Rain which is a neighbor to Canada. Much of the new agreement is similar to the former treaty. KNOWN AS NAFTA One big change that Canadians can now buy up to one hundred fifty Canadian eighteen dollars worth of American goods online without paying duties or import taxes. This is much more than the twenty Canadian dollar limit allowed in Nafta we'd Merit Merritt President of the main International Trade Center says this could be significant for main border saved me a lot of Canadian tourists in name and this is something and we've been keeping an eye on for a while because there's a disparity between what Americans can purchase in Canada and bring back versus what Canadians can purchase in the United States. And take back their country so you think that's a positive for comparison. The United States limit for online shopping from other countries is eight hundred dollars. But this rule known as de minimus shipment value levels only applies to shipments. It doesn't change how much Canadians can buy on their visits to the US in amount that increases if they're visiting for longer than twenty for hours. I'm Laura sprouts Hellum reporting conservation. Go speaking out against the move. Thursday by the trump administration to remove penalties for companies unease. Whose business activities is deadly kill birds the US interior department is finalizing a change to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act or mb Ta? I announced two years ago. It removes penalties for bird. Deaths considered incidental take even in cases of such gross negligence as a massive oil spill. Bob Dreyer with defenders of wildlife says this will lead to many more bird deaths. We already have evidence that businesses and federal agencies have turn their backs on conservation of birds because of the administration's policy. This may a accelerate that you may see more and more businesses saying birds will be killed. But that's okay go ahead. In the past the Migratory Bird Treaty Act gave companies incentives to prevent bird deaths with proactive measures whether it's placing nets over oil pits. Or we're making power lines and wind turbines more visible to birds. The administration says the changes would ease onerous restrictions on commercial activity and infrastructure projects ups. I'm Suzanne Potter. This is PMS. The US's urging Americans not to travel to China now amid the corona virus outbreak Komo more than two hundred people in China State Department elevated travel advisory to the highest level Iowa. Lawmakers have been in session for about two weeks. Now advocates for people with disabilities hope. They do not overlook their concerns expanding community based care supports. Is One of the top priorities. Brooke lovelace heads the Iowa developmental orbital disabilities council at says lawmakers can help people with disabilities in many ways. Adequate funding on the Medicaid Program Funding Funding Kid make sure that it's been a house. System is adequate funding lovely says providing funding to eliminate the waiting lists for services is a top priority as well a task force charged with solving cases of missing and murdered native Americans held his first meeting in Washington. DC This week. Here's Ross Brown. The trump administration announced the missing and murdered indigenous persons initiative last year and placed coordinators eleven. US Attorney's offices to develop protocols for a better law enforcement response. Joelene holgate coordinates the missing and Murdered Dinner Relatives Initiative on the Navajo Nation. She leads forums about the resources available. Able to help people when someone they know goes missing. This has been happening. Since the time of colonization in the southwest for us that includes human trafficking sexual violence silence violence perpetrated against US site non native individuals the Navajo nation includes New Mexico. Utah and Arizona. Finally Mark. Richardson reporting healthy healthy pension. Plans for public workers help the Arizona economy not just retirees who get the checks. That's according to the latest research backers of Arizona's his public pension system say they're defined benefit. Retirement plans are doing well. Although critics have claimed that some plans maybe underfunded the National Institute on Retirement Tarmac Security says the benefits from these pension plans including teachers generated more than seven billion dollars in economic activity in Arizona in two thousand sixteen. The most recent figures here's available Julia Hormone with the Zona Education Association retired agrees there helping to keep the economy. Strong pension are not yet an entitlement given than people who are older. They're actually one of the chief economic engine that you ride Arizona would out those tensions our economy except for a great deal on example of criticism was a recent op. Ed By the Research Group Era Zona Chamber Foundation it warned that local and state governments are regularly having in to increase their pension plan. Contributions suggesting this could eventually lead to solvency problems despite claims public. Pensions Drain State and local coffers supporters quarter say only about one quarter of contributions to Arizona. Pensions are from employers. I Mike Clifford. Thanks for wrapping up your week with Public News Service we are member enlisted supportive enrolling at public service DOT. 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Twenty nineteen instead of twenty twenty confederate General General Robert e Lee became general in chief on this date in eighteen sixty five in the American civil war. Three am began marketing. Scotch tape on this date in nineteen thirty. The Green Hornet Radio Show debuted on this date in one thousand nine hundred eighty six and in Nineteen forty-five Army Private Eddie Slavic executed the first American soldiers since the civil civil war to be executed for version. Desertion back in nineteen forty-five president. Truman announced a program to develop the hydrogen bomb in one thousand nine hundred and in nineteen fifty seven three students on a junior high school playground in Paco. Karma California among eight people killed following the mid air collision collision between the Douglas DC seven airliner and the Northrop F eighty nine Scorpion fighter jet above the San Fernando Valley section of Los Angeles the first successful launch of American satellite into orbit on this Stadium Nineteen fifty-eight Explorer One Cape Canaveral Florida and final checkup for the seventy Jupiter C about to put the explorer into orbit around the Earth the success of the Russian sputnik and the failure of a Medical Van God Project Jack must have been in the minds of all consent is the moment for firing an United States is ready to play in place its first satellite satellite into orbit I of playing we can see that you may be a great sigh ever leave accompanied the explorer as it saw away into space exactly according to plan newsreel audio of explore one launched on on this date in one thousand nine hundred fifty eight James Van Allen discovering the Van Allen Radiation Belt also in one thousand nine hundred feet on the state and Ham the chimp traveled the outer space on the Mercury Redstone two in nineteen sixty one on this date after thirty seven day pause President Johnson ordered resumption of airstrikes in Vietnam in nineteen sixty six on this Monday morning and Vietnam at my direction actor complete and thorough consultation impatient and agreement with the government of South Vietnam United States aircraft have resumed action in north Vietnam two years later the Viet Cong would attack the US embassy in Saigon nineteen sixty eight President Reagan spoke at a memorial service honoring the crew of the space shuttle Challenger who were killed lift up three days earlier. 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Rescue night's presentation of Radio's outstanding outstanding theatre of thrills. Tonight we bring you transcribe story of a group of brave men who risked their lives in a desperate effort to save their fellow men. We call it Arctic rescue now starting. Mr John Stevenson eras tonight. Suspense play our rescue Christmas night miles and miles of endless and broken vice an ice floe drifting somewhere in the vicinity of the seventy third parallel north of the Arctic Circle. Nothing but I. It is really nothing Catholic. Through the winter night you'll see two tiny duct blemishes. The figures of two men one twisted in an unconscious are skipping. Jonathan Blake the other figure Gerald L.. Stealing I it makes us only civilized men in a wilderness of ice waiting helplessly. Sorry picture it. It's a different picture you've seen if you've been part of the excited crowd standing at the battery of a New York waterfront on June morning joining the year. Eighteen fifty the moment of departure. I let's mistake. The high tide me. God and his great mercy protect you young men from the perils which are wait you after Ted for heart and we shall succeed the others have failed and ending the mystery Erebus and terror back to other Dean in time for Christmas feast. We prepare Christmas celebration. Your men will never look at captain England next week. I actually pray for you Mr Steuerle. Thank you Miss Croft. I stand many watch. Watch out at sea thinking of last night football answering you all of us. I mean what I made his. Thank you tell your niece lady. Thank is how grateful the officers and crew while the farewell ball you held in their last night. I am grateful one Captain Blake. Please bring them all home. Safely income now lady function no need for that. Jessica is a sturdy ship. The men are in good health and spirits. We'll be back with MS Ross title. Change must be another way then. Goodbye and good luck. Captivated the lake the banisters. Kill it. Godspeed you we shall see Aberdeen Christmas Week. It's yes it okay anyway. That all hands it. They're moving stations business. It's a plus the oldest two costal. I aw what a Reyat underway veil rayle Mrs Stewart. Villier is the site of New York. It's lasted for some type of a good long long time. I'm a Jessica. Moves slowly to the outer harbour. I watched a tiny delicate white don. The crowd at the water damage side Lady. Franklin waving I watched until the morning fog erased inside of the New York waterfront. Aside from the ship's log I've decided to keep a running account will be transferred to a water-tight Johnson onto the current fit any seven disaster. The first three weeks of navigation north were merely a matter of settling down to ships routine on June thaddeus after officers. We did punk farewell on the Greenland coast. Time had come for the captain to read a letter of instructions given to him by lady. Franklin Captain Blake. I'm sure you will do all the Dinnie men. Ken In discovering the fate of my husband's and John Thank Lynn and two ships the Erebus and terror ETA. My only fear is that you might sacrifice your lives and the unknown regions of the Arctic. Therefore let let me state that above all else. The preservation of the lives of you and your companions is more important to me than the purpose of your journey. God in his great mercy preserve you all from harm amidst the perils which await an restore you to US safely and didn't in health as well as your sincere detached friend Jane Franklin. These are the only written instructions actions. I have gentlemen now. Then this is the map. Please Gentlemen Admiralty Admiralty Map of the Arctic regions that we ought to pitching map. It's almost completely. I missed a day. Thousands of miles of chartered wilderness. And somewhere are in that frozen Tundra Sir. Thank Lynn and his men vanished and I'll search will begin tomorrow when we dropped anchor. GO WE PICK UP OUR ICE pilot. Mr Mr Patrick Henson's on additional supplies and then make the Arctic Circle Acted Cinco. Sounds like the edge of the world is fighting to you. Right right. Mr Halliday I were you. I would respect Mr Stewart's fear of what lies before US captain. I was just thinking if Franklin was looking for the northwest. This passage probably make an approach through here. Lancaster sound must've passed bonds. Bay and according to our information there ESKIMOS IF BONDS Bay. They might have seen shipped into Lancaster sound and if they did then we'll have something to go by. I hope Mr Hansen understands esquivel dialects. They can tell us but I don't see how we can cover all this territory and get back by Christmas captain. We have no choice. Mr Stewart if you get caught beyond the Arctic circle after the summer months we may never get back never I in the winter. The Caesar covered with great ice floes. Once ship is frozen in in in those letter to stay there until the summer thaw and you come to mention the hovers. We didn't do an Arctic Winter Holiday. I I suppose not. Franklin the newsmen were probably frozen in for the winter and they were never heard from again sexy that will give you a brief idea. Yeah of reinforcement. No more after Mr Hansen comfortable any questions. I have nothing but questions captain. I wish I had the answers Stewart around Known the next day we dropped anchor in the harbor of air we can take on Cole Additional Winter Clothing Dogs Eskimo drivers I am Mr Hansen. Our ice was nothing more than a few of Beckham Bay Trading Company as we prepared to go ashore alone. Boats suddenly appeared appeared alongside Captain Blake. I ask Patrick Hans Pilots. We would about Cindy voter show for a handsome all the time for that captain but we planned on picking up supplies. Dogs brought them in the boat. What's the rush? Mr Hansen this Gerald Stewart and I I made never been to the Arctic before Mr Stewart. No take my word for it. We better get Dave. I'll be got the summer weather. You Bet all right so we run into a little summarize Jessica's because we paid for it. She looks like good strong ship. You never seen iron ship up here before and steam engine to all the Jessica has. There's an additional iron plates across to Ho as well as edit bracing thought you and forward to the bow is solid iron and razor the shot at the end. Do you think that will do to your ice. Mr Hansen to new see the ice can do to ship. Even I chipped Mr Stewart. You received my letters and you made inquiries about the edifice some here. They couldn't get dogs so they headed for pawns. Bay across Baffin Bay that's right just as we saw. La Yes get those supplies all then prepare. The ship for sea is up. You can talk to coach across the Arctic Circle next and onto in north by northwest costs leaving the last outpost of civilization behind this and cross the right Basham Bay on July fourth. We crossed the Arctic Circle and we had ice freezing deck and in the rigging day later. We saw office floating iceberg. But this time of the year we should not have seen either one from two ponds bay six and a half days perfect con upon landing. We found a small contingent of Eskimos. But nothing else. They seemed hostile and would give us no information. Then as we were preparing to return to the Jessica one of the natives girl rushed from one of the Hudson down to the beach. We'll say Mister Hinson sure kept look hand. She wants us to look at it. And it's a the small blast button from a naval uniform. Tissue traded listen saying delivers. What does he mean by that? You're says she turned to say man's knee. Joseph Gallagher Stewart is that name Munson. 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An episode of Arctic rescue as it was originally broadcast on Tuesday January thirty first nineteen fifty-six in the newspapers of that Tuesday sixty four years ago. These were some of the headlined. The Atomic Energy Commission mission reported yesterday testing of nuclear engine designs for aircraft is now underway at the ABC's Idaho Experimental Plant a semi annual report of the Commission mission covering developments of the last six months of nineteen fifty. Five said the aircraft reactor program was accelerated from Washington Secretary of Agriculture Alter Benson came under fresh fire in Congress yesterday with Congressman Verdict Republican. South Dakota suggesting that Benson and some other cabinet members should wear you're demands for Bentsen's resignation rose last week after publication of a letter signed with his name applauding magazine article which called the American. Farmer are pampered. Tyrant Benson's apologetic statement Friday. That the letter to the editor of Harper's magazine was stamped Boehner and into the uproar on Capitol Hill but there were a Republican from Utah. Senator Bennett told the Senate yesterday. The Secretary Frank. Acknowledgement of the yetter editor showed courage and should persuade. Critics is to withdraw their demands that he resigned. Prime Minister Eden Pledge Britain sports support yesterday. The President Eisenhower Statement of policy that Russia should ease world roll. Tensions by deeds not words even personally assured. Eisenhower Britten stand at the first of a series of White House meetings called to coordinate British and American can policy William Jed winged across the North Atlantic and treacherous winter weather at the controls of a single engine plane but is not forced him to abandon Anthon yesterday and effort to fly nonstop from New York to Cairo. He sat down at an airport near Paris. After thirty four hours eleven minutes in the cockpit of his gleaming the silver and Yellow Star of the Red Sea the forty year old native of South Haven. Kansas was forced by icing crested wings. And six hours of tiring instrument from applying to end his flight in Paris. The explosion late last night rock. The home of the Negro Ministry has been a prominent leader in the eight week old. The Negro boycott of city buses because of the segregated seating arrangements early reports indicated damage to the house was extensive however police would not immediately say if anyone was injured in the home of the Reverend Martin Luther King Chief Spokesman for the demonstrating Negro population of Montgomery Baltimore's two hundred thousand regular bus and trolley writers unseated by strike but the second time in four weeks Mumford. Their way to work yesterday through streets jammed with cars cars. All City and state officials kept pressure on the Transit Company in Union drivers prospects for an early settlement did not appear encouraging from Tallahassee. Asi Florida comes word that a nineteen year old German girl as Governor Leroy Collins to help her find a not rich but wealthy American husband Care Orrin Hatch of Berlin writing. I wish that he is tall and from a good appearance he must be in a certain position. I mean he don't must be rich but wealthy his character shelby likable. That is my greatest wish Karen pinned at three tiny snapshots to the letter which were not clear enough to give a good idea upper qualifications occasions however she did send along. These vital statistics wait fifty one kilograms height. One point seven meters hair. Middle Bond is blue took her letter addressed to the Mayor of Florida. said she could find an American to marry in Berlin but she much preferred floor because she quoting likes. It's nature and I hear Florida is wonderful. No word from the governor's Office on whether he was going to be searching and those are some of the day's top news stories as reported in the newspapers up Tuesday a January thirty first nineteen fifty-six on your Radio Suspense Arctic rescue which Continues News now on Classic Radio Theater after leaving Ponds Bay. Two months passed without incident. Then we ended. Lancaster sound and approached. The sketchley trotted islands along the coast and we counted great mountains of floating ice and we had only a few hours of twilight each day. We crossed the seventy fifth parallel North into Wellington Channel to Bathurst island last of the islands on my match with a change northwest us waste Gail Sleep and heavy fog at forced us to a bath. Crawl a mammoth ice floes. That closed in all around us the ESA even I on the temperature I answer don six degree small time getting the temperature still nothing zero. What do you think of this lead and take maybe the better back out to hear back? I'll take a look back. outwear acting Rutta won't respond fix Ed Lee just getting spoiled a captain. Coptic seems to be closing down on us on all couch. Doc was the lead moved in closer until a man could jump to the ice from either side of the and then the Jessica was through the acts making her own but slowly we lost feet. It finally ship gave up to the ice. If Rose Stop Engines was disturbed. Asha Captain Blake. Looks like we can forget about looking for a young Franklin and his ships be frozen and they're going to have to look out for our own lives you bet You are listening to Arctic rescue. Tonight's presentation in Radio's outstanding theatre of thrills suspense sixty four years ago January thirty First Nineteen Nineteen fifty-six suspense on Classic Radio Theater. The conclusion comes up in just three minutes on this Friday edition right here on your favorite station. How did you sleep last night? I can guarantee you. I slept better than you did. Unless you. 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Russians were cutting food water and coal consumption. Furious gales came and went there were more freezing. Temperatures often his lowest thirty five below. The doctor was a busy man. Daily all hand suffered from frostbite. Gangrene conditions about the Jessica Sokaia. They couldn't get any worse October. November the result of home and holidays and Lady Franklin and this cross sitting alone. The Christmas feast that was to be held in our on Christmas Day the cook outdid himself. We had a feast first of all the Jessica on the left of the salt pork and the beef and with the last of the male and minced beat. The Cook made pies and we had a celebration Christmas Day. Eighteen fifty two men. The captain the word to say I I dropped below to offer you. Greetings on this holiday and to wish you much happier Christmas. Yeah in this mosquito eighteen fifty three one year later. We're still frozen in.

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Eight hundred nine three two one seven four nine eight hundred nine three two one seven four nine eight hundred nine three two one seven four nine. That's eight hundred nine three to seventeen forty nine from San in Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network. You're listening to wrestling observer by with your hosts Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper V. Let's get it. Hey everybody welcome to wrestling observer live. I might simple V.. Here with you for the next hour talking professional wrestling and mixed martial arts know Bryan Alvarez today obviously it is the first Monday of the month which means it is. It's time for a trip to the dentist. I'm still not sure if that is code for anything but saw good. We'll be back with you tomorrow. He will absolutely. We'll be back with Dave meltzer tonight on wrestling observer radio for subscribers over wrestling observer DOT COM. It is Monday which means that his Monday night. Raw Take Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City tonight road to Wrestlemainia the roads wrestlemainia which is leased Insp- last Thursday been paved and sold stock tickets. Stock closed forty eight on Friday on Thursday and close to sixty two thirty one and then George Barrios and Michelle Wilson got fired as it stands today in his. I speak with you to begin this show. Forty six fifty seven down another two dollars and thirty cents today bad times for for the wwe stock wwe's the news. Today they're going to be all weekly the into Thursday really and depending on what happens there and we'll see in our in our little bubble here if you have C.. Two forty seven in John Jones Dominic Reyes can get some steam going into Saturday night or wwe it all the Shakeout shakeout from that press conference the investors call that they have on Thursday. See that's GonNa end up leading everything into the weekend. The news from this past weekend is filled with lots lots of announcements for Wrestlemainia and beyond not wrestlemainia proper but all the events that go around Wrestlemainia. There's been some good stuff announced lake. Tatum Joey Giannella during the Super Bowl last night dropped big one. We'll talk about that game. Changer wrestling the people's champion. We'll talk about them. Rab- Abrasions from the no sale w dragon gate of got together. When we get back from? Break me being the charming and calming presence that I am talk to producer Tom to help those depression super bowl yesterday Mike semper fi be wrestling verve alive. This is Sara's a reilly auto parts story driving cross country with two young children is ambitious to say the least then. Our check engine light came on. We pulled into O'Reilly auto parts and they tested it turned out it was a faulty sensor. 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Mike Semple v You know what it is find us on twitter at Bryan Alvarez at Sports Byline USA and Ad Semper Viti at mid Atlantic pod if you love a pro wrestling can't speak on directly though you can't if you wanted one eight hundred eight seven eight play one eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine. That is the number. Can't guarantee if when we'll get to them but we'll see how it goes producer dom as everyone. No No. They're already knows we are. We are headquartered in San Francisco home at San Francisco Forty niners and everybody out there that listens to the mighty sports byline radio network. You would have heard testimonials being sent in from across the world soldiers from the area routing on the San Francisco Forty niners American football. Yes folks folks out there. Globally there is other American football out there besides the XFL yes. The National Football League held their Big Game San Francisco Forty niners loss to the Kansas City chiefs yesterday producer dom still pulling himself together dumb. Are you okay. Eventually I will be Mike Thank you eventually. Maybe I know you just came off of a producing It'll fiddle show spoke a lot about the super bowl has been Somewhat tortuous for you not listening to rick obviously but having to sit there. And just uh you're just relive everything from yesterday. Held the lead lost the lead as Atlanta Falcons Fan. I understand when it comes to Kyle Shanahan that this maybe maybe becoming a thing for him but you have a bright future ahead of you with lots of young guys in lots of cap space right now so things are still looking good for you. But what are your thoughts last last night. Out of the the game and And how are you actually feeling today because it does suck obviously everybody. We joke about sports but we try to find our release in sports and like many of us try to find it in professional wrestling. So the the kick in the gut if not lore when something like yesterday happens is always painful. Yes there's a few things I'm I'm GonNa take away from that The first is I did a great job of avoiding everything. I didn't watch sports center. I didn't watch. ESPN didn't watch Fox. Sports I watched my local news for the weather and everything this morning but then I watch something on my DVR. So I did a great job avoiding it and then in and it sat on my on the on the subway on the way here Mike. That's right I work at a sports radio network. I'm going to be exposed to it whether I want to or or not. So that part stunk. The game itself it not fun was not entered. I don't know I'll L. ask you for for afterwards. Mike removing myself as a fan of one of the teams involved. It strikes me as a game that wasn't super entertaining. You can respond afterwards Intrigue me a super entertaining not as bad as last year's that was bad and then in terms of getting over it. It's it's GonNa take a little bit Mike Baseball team. The giants are horrible. Everybody's talking baseball seasons right around the corner pitchers and catchers report a giants fan fest. This is on Saturday. I'm like I really don't care because they're going to be so so bad. They won seventy five games or so. Oh last year. There's no way they match that this year. They're going to be terrible. This is this is not a silver lining. I understand people trying to help. Oh Hey dumb baseball all seasons right around the corner but I'm spoiled. I'm spoiled. I will admit them spoiled. Got The three titles. The warriors have been fantastic but the warriors are trash right now. I'm not a hockey fan. I'm like I really don't have anything sports going on the worst thing I have going on radically enough. Is that one of my all time. Favorite wrestlers edges back. That's what I've got going on for me right now. Mike See. That's sad when you of your sports is going to be wrapped around the road wrestlemainia. You don't have an accent. I thought I thought the bay area had XFL NFL team. You can sink your teeth into we had one. Originally we had to San Francisco Demons we do not have one in this iteration of the XFL. So is the closest team is it. They have one in. La can't even remember now. No the Seattle Ryan's are I have not the slightest idea there used to be an LA team again back into the original iteration. I believe he was the L. A.. Express la renegades suddenly be La Express the assessments renegades. Then I think that's where that would Tommy Maddox ex- yeah exactly are maybe it might have been something stupid like that. Ono was LAX LA extreme. Something it's something stupid like bad it's the XFL. What do you expect? Maybe it was one of those before and after his it was the L. A.. XFL No but Yeah I don't I don't no no I'm pretty sure California actually doesn't have team this. Go around the rams and the Patriots last year. It was a defensive football. As far as technical Nicole goes it was technically. It was a great football game but you know. Obviously there's God knows how many people have a billion people whatever watching around the world. The last thing they care about for sports they barely ever watch is to see a defensive technical classic so I don't think anybody who's looking for that last night and at least you know even though we got a relatively pedestrian industry and game at portions of it and it was a lot of defensive chess going on in quarterbacks being stopped by good defenses stepping up we did. At least I get a story at the end with the comeback of the chiefs. Which of course is an extra kick in the crotch for you and forever? They called into this show and made fun of me. After the Atlanta Falcons Blue Twenty five point lead to the Patriots. Obviously not going your direction but as the momentum started to turn I mean did you. Did you feel it coming. Did you feel that the San Francisco could actually hold on here in hold Kansas City off. Come up with something or did you start feeling this thing. Slipping away the same thing I you know. Basically as for the I felt when he came to to Kyle Shanahan and and and he came to a everybody in in Atlanta with Dan Quinn when he came to the Patriots game that SORTA slip out of their hands. All right so whether it was seven minutes left the niners just gotten the second turnover interception against mahomes. They were up ten. I was feeling really good and I just went to my text messages. I don't remember exactly when in the game. This was but it was at some point between at that moment where I thought the niners had a really good chance of winning with seven minutes left. And some point maybe after the first touchdown to make it a three point game or whatever Ed something in that time period I texted my friend and this was at six forty two Pacific. I don't like this so there. That's how much faith veith. And this is the thing that I think. A lot of the niner fans have forgotten about a lot of them were like. Oh the defense was so bad. They were terrible at the end. They let Homes do it and I'm like I think you have forgotten literally how the entire niners teams have operated over the last fifteen twenty years most of my life. They've been bad nets. Just that's just a fact. I was three when they won the Super Bowl. And then we've had a couple. You know the Jeff Garcia Kotaro Terrell Owens and then you had capper knicks boom and then you got now but it doesn't that the offense has been so bad that the the defense is gassed because they're always on the field and as exactly what happened in the fourth quarter in a high emotion game a lot of these guys operating on Adrenaline Win eventually that adrenaline is going to start becoming a negative. And it's going to tire out a little bit and then the offense but back to back like four play possessions and it's like there's no way the defense can handle having play Patrick mahomes in the cheese. This is at the end of a long season. I don't care that you had a bye week last week. It's the end of a long season. You've had a long game. It's it's not like you did a great job but it's not like the chiefs are easy to defend. I'm sure tons sons of those guys were chasing tyreek Hill and Meco Hardman and Sammy Watkins. On routes. That didn't amount to anything. The defensive line was a little banged up. They were going all out. It just ran out of gas and it was. It was definitely frustrating to see that both that happen and then also I don't WanNa put too much blame on Shanahan but man put your foot on somebody's throat for once man and just push please. I know it's a little violent but come on man pedal to the metal. Just everybody's like Oh. He's learned he's learned. He's learned he has has not learned because it was three years ago and he did the same thing. Yeah he's going to have to live with that one and Dhamma. I thank you very very much I might call on you again here in a minute because I am interested in hearing your thoughts actually since you did bring up edge and Randy Orton. It's one of the things we have announced for Rawdon night a a little bit of an update on their situation which I will tell everybody about after the break but I thank you for coming on indulging me a little bit here. 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USA Say we get this one out of the way now hymie is on the phone line hymie. How are you might I just recently only started watching wrestling on the network like started from the first step so the earliest episode they have on there in eighty one and I gotta say it was like a lot of stuff stuff that if AB eight aws book didn't like we wouldn't here in the last from Brian last in Gym Cornet like they've bugged Inter gender tag matches with it grown men and I don't WanNA use the the I don't want to say midgets but little people as literal tag team partners and we'll see like a bunch of wacky wrecking gimmicks like like a fad timeout. Let me stop you right there. Do you have any. I guess the breadth of knowledge of history three. You know when it comes to the women wrestling in midget wrestling across the country. They were used as specialty items. No matter where it was whether it be in New York or Los Angeles or Dallas US wherever and oftentimes they were mixed together to be matches and that wasn't just ended south. That was all over the country. That was a regular thing when it came to wrestling. Oh definitely but I'm just saying like you know how bill watches religion to like guys like Dave Meltzer in Jim Cornet Ornette and Bryant last and those like make Jim Cornet and Brian last. Oh they argued that Awro in high me. I'm going to go ahead and let you go. And here's why if you want to argue with Bryan last in Gym Cornet then right into Jim Cornet into Brian. Last and one of the eighty eighty eight shows the Brian. Last does like you know to do it. Here doesn't really make any sense and you talk about the religion. That was passed on by bill. Watts it wasn't a religion. Pass Tom by bill watts. It was a learning tree thing about some of the knowledge that he has about things that actually worked and things that he learned from. Eddie Graham and things that Eddie Graham Ram had picked up along the way and there's a whole tree of knowledge that exists whether you like the people or their politics or how they were as real human beings as we know I know Eddie Graham was a terrible human being Roy Shire was a terrible human being. There's probably older fans out there. Listening in San Francisco Right now in the Moi these sports byline that have their their memories that go back to Roy. Shire running that promotion. He wasn't a nice person one of the reasons he got kicked off his. TV was because he was like chewing tobacco and spitting it on rug the Nice TV studio. That's one of the things that got him. Sunk off of that station as well as many other things too but like that was one because he just couldn't help himself from being being a prick. Now that prick ended up. Having some incredible wrestling knowledge passed down finishes that we see to this day passed on knowledge about how to do things and how at a tell stories that we see to this day. Whether it be Eddie Graham Bill Watts or any of these people yes. They weren't the best people in the world but they had a lot of knowledge to give. And that's we've got passed down and that's the religion that you talk about you know it's the good things everybody does bad things. There's things you can point to in every promotion at any time almost ever and point out. How ridiculous elicit is like? You can continue to harp on that and beat it to death. You know all that you want but the reality of the situation is that that's what it is so if you have an ax ax to grind with something you saw you know out of context in isolation midsouth. TV and you want to ask him about it asked him about it so Rochon tonight transition to that by the way if you can do better than that one. Eight hundred eight seven eight one. Eight hundred eight seven eight seven five two nine get a hold of me on twitter. Twitter's well at separate Vivey that wwe stock as we stand right now. Down five percent forty-six sixty two Monday night raw tonight. They won't be talking about that. Not sure what they're going to be talking about. The only thing that they have announced so far is some fallout. From last week's edge and Randy Orton angle go to the wrestling observer. Dot Com website. WWe has announced that Orton will address his actions from last Monday night on raw last week. So Oh close with order taking edge and hitting a CON CHARITO to his head. I just love seeing how that was written out there concerto concerto to. I don't know oh but that we need A. Is there an on bud. Zeman here the need the Wade Keller style guide to tell us about how to spell properly concerto in his at capitalized. I know it's not all caps as if it was wrestling. In Japan though. WWE also issued a storyline update on his condition after the attack angle. It said. Is that a quote family. Spokesperson has confirmed that edge is now. Home has begun the recovery process and is waiting for the results of battery of tests. WWe noted that edge will update his condition early next week at families spokesperson. It was probably Was was probably Beth Phoenix on annex. T in which I think pretty much exact same thing I think last time she was on there after returning to the ring the royal rumble edge. Cut a promo in the main event segment of last tweaks were all. He was interrupted by Orton who proposed. Reuniting they're rated R. K. O.. Team before edge to give an answer. Orton laid him out with an Arcadio or then hit edge with a steel chair and wrap his head around it or went up to the Middle Rope and looked conflicted and seem to have decided against continuing the attack. But then got two chairs and gave Edgy. Concerto Edge had eliminated or in the men's royal rumble match the previous night. The story was edge and Orton. Were working together but edge. Ordinance was about to turn against him edge versus ordinance planned for Wrestlemainia thirty six. Tonight's raw taking place at the Vivian. Smart Home Arena and Salt Lake City. Utah the city is dealing with a significant snowstorm but the arena wrote. That raw is planned to go on as scheduled. I am sure we are going to have people taking pictures. And and Of of the crowd before they get in half empty buildings in going. This is raw. The same way people do that with raw and smackdown he w h and everything else. We're going this crowd. Take a picture of cited starved off. Somebody will be doing that tonight. Dom I'm GonNA actually drag you back in here real quick just because you mentioned in the opening segment and you happen to be our guy on the street that we go to. For the average average fan the most lapsed average fans you are coming from a different generation of fandom one where there was a minimal stars but there was John on CNN edge. Randy Orton a handful of other people at the time edge obviously had to retire due his neck injury. The spinal stenosis a miracle recovery a miracle miracle of modern medicine. A marvel him coming back here. Now to face off against Randy Orton WRESTLEMAINIA. It is a massive matchup. We talked about it a little bit last week. Go for a lot of people. It's trying to get the old feels back. That's what they're going for with their lack of stars bringing edge back. You instantly have a a callback to a different time A.. And frankly at that time. He and Randy Orton always put on great performances. So they're trying to kind of like you know. Shake the ghosts and wake up and and get the echoes of time once was. Did it pay off on Monday night. It's seemed to inside the arena. We'll ratings hash this out as we move along. People people have that kind of interest. We'll have to see. But as elapsed fan who they're probably aiming at with stuff like this and and at least are hoping get woken up with stuff like this. What what did you think about it and is it something that makes you keep an extra eye on the proceedings for for? WWe As we lead in Wrestlemainia first off. Thank you for the names that you said Grew up with because that makes me feel really young I actually was you know nine ten years old during the attitude era so actually Mike. It wasn't wasn't the John did for me. It was you know Austin the rock the hardy's edge Christian and then even later on a little bit you know Batista's has mysterious. I headed good man. Second off yeah. They got me admittedly I would. I would record it every week just to fiddle my way through it fast forward on the DVR see if anything caught my eye. Whatever and then I went because I because I know the wwe network is going to offer for me a free month? Whenever basically I wanted I went and got a free month so I can watch the royal rumble got really excited? That edge was there and then wouldn't you know it. Sorry let me take it back a little bit a few months ago I stopped recording it because I just didn't care anymore but wouldn't you know it last Monday after royal rumble. They got me to record it again. Fast forward through the whole thing. It's not like they. They got me to watch the whole thing. But I watched the entire closing segment with edge and Orton and I. I'm I'm one of the fans that my favorite part of being at a live event isn't necessarily the actual wrestling. What what I love about? It is the music just. There's something about when somebody a wrestler that you love their music hits. The video starts playing you. You know there's fog or Pyro or what God. You are a child of generation and all about the pop for the intro. Yes I am. An edge to me at least has is one of my favorite theme songs that there is so hearing his music. Royal Rumble was awesome. I love that he's back back. I'm GONNA follow this again not wholeheartedly. I'm still going to be fast. Forwarding through most of it probably but at least they have me paying attention in in some regards and I may try to finagle my way into the other trial come mania. You know you're going to do that. I totally know better price than free going to they're going to be offering them left and right especially for people who are lapsed out there from getting the network I am guaranteed that. I'm sure I still wonder if they're going to even mention inching the network number coming up this Thursday. I seem to recall from the last time that they had one of these conference calls it the way they were. Basically stop talking about the network they stopped bringing it up and they kind of fudge with the numbers or kind of it was basically seemed to be stated that no matter what the number is is your no matter what they say. You're not going to be able to really trust it anyway. So it doesn't seem like Wall Street's doing it either stocks down but a lot to get into from this weekend a lot of the news on the news on the perimeter that we need to get to myself. Avi Restrooms ever live. Aw at Aaron's we believe in a magic of wintertime more the magic that comes from good people out there always helping others. There's working hard and providing for those. They love no matter one. So why are there so many stores and willing to work with some good people just because your credit isn't the best doesn't mean your TV or frigerator campy. That's why errands we work with you. So you can get flexible lease to own plans. 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You're listening to wrestling observer for life with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Zimmer v on the sports byline broadcasting network except for maybe back on the show with your alive type stuff to get into the weekend arrest people on the phone lines to try to get a little bit later on this news though. Hyped it up earlier on Joey Gino's Oh spring break Jelly Natella. Guess for a for Hymie out there with his axe next to grind so he knows spring rate for release the trailer during the Super Bowl halftime show revealing the minore. Sukey will face off against Orange Cassidy. Video announcement was an animation featuring both men preparing for duel and also highlighting their contrasting styles. It would be technically a battled between a new Japan Regular and somebody. WHO's under contract to eighty it? W It had already been announced. Previously the minority Suzuki would be a part of Wrestlemainia weekend festivities. He assigned to face Chris Dickinson at Josh Burnett's blood sport three on April second both bloodsport and spring break or being held under the game changer. Wrestling's that collective banner of events. The Great Mood Alex Shelley and we'll Osprey spray have been announced for the event which will take place Friday April third of the Cuban Club in Ebor City of Florida. Josh Barnett's blood sport. Worked three also has killer Kelly and added to the Thursday April second event from Portugal based in Germany she is currently remember the annex t UK roster but she is not exclusive to them. She's a regular and W X W she tweeted out a couple of weeks ago. She was looking to get booked more on her non-annex days so she's filling up a wrestlemainia schedule. She's only Russell twice. Since December once in December once in January and that was a dark match and eve and she's had eighteen matches for the wwe since two thousand and one thousand nine five have been at may young tapings. I believe she's Owen. Three the young five over matches have also been dark matches Not used a lot not used as match as you now. Some people thought she was going to. She's going to be obviously on the weekend. Which Jon Moxley against Josh Barnett? That was supposed to be on on the second bloodsport show. MOXIE got injured was off of that. They're going to do that this year. Minoru Suzuki Against Chris Dickinson Davey Boy Smith. Junior and Jeff. COBB also announced announced on the show blood sport is the the hybrid shoot style. Show originally with Matt Rentals name on it and then he got signed by wwe. So Josh Barnett picked up the torch it was a pretty good one Pretty obvious one for him to pick up as it moved along. The only way to win is a a knockout or submission. It is amazing. I don't like for those people who have been listening for years and years To The big audio nightmare partner Adam Summers from Chicago loved loved going to I w midsouth shows I was never a fan of death match. Wrestling never was fan of it. Another thing that Adam absolutely adored shoot style wrestling. I always appreciate STU shoot style. Nobuhiko Takada is one of my favorite wrestlers. I think that Josh Barnett. Even though INOKI ISM made my stomach twist I thought he should have been utilized more new Japan while he was there at his peak and was rolling along. I thought he was great. I I think he or she tomorrow. Might be the best prowrestler in some ways that I've ever seen in my entire life he can make real things look fake fake things. Things look real to a level that is just beyond a lot of people will say Volkan. I can appreciate it. I just don't necessarily really like to see it. It's not my bag. I don't really hate either one but I can say that it's Kinda funny that I would kind of recoil from death match stuff but it can also sit here and tell you unequivocally the best promotion and the promotion gives their fans more and and then what they want in anybody. Anybody else's game changer wrestling the success of that. They're going to have with these collective shows this year. I think the for the culture one I think is going to be very very notable for a lot of people I think the blood sport show at this point the Joey Genova spring break show speak for themselves. They are incredible the loss in New York. Show that Annella you know is basically with his name on IT I. I'm not a gigantic fan of Joey Giannella as far as having to see him Russell Russell on my TV every week. I don't hate them but a slut like I have any sort of emotional attachment to him whatsoever. But I can say that he shows if you WANNA be entertained you know or a you know a one off I. Maybe you don't need a steady diet of them. But I can say that. His spring break show Wrestlemania Menu. Weekend has been a very welcome addition. You know the ridiculous stuff takes place on it. The names get brought back and get paid as on it. I'm a fan of them. I like those shows again. A steady diet of it now and it's amazing that you know those are probably the two types of shows at author most known for the the wackier type shows and those in those death match style shows and it's still incredible company in Japan right now and again. I don't know the details beyond that but you know the Veon D- another one probably probably those two companies probably give their fans more of what they want than anybody else I know. Aws trying ring honors influx. We Know A. WWE does with their fans transition over Shingo Takagi. Your new never open weight champion. He signed phase Bandido now at the Russell Super Show on April second can last Wednesday announced that the Mark Hitchcock memorial super show April Second Niebler city. Takagi is also going to face Chris Dickinson. There's another now the one for US pancakes POW drivers four event. I love Wrestlemainia weekend. If Not Wrestlemainia for everything else that goes around it and the fact that so many the people can get paid and we can have so many unique one off of match ups like this and by the way. Let me rewind to to spring break a a traditional list. WHO's probably pulling their hair out right now? It's like look there's a time and a place for everything in thirty one flavors and I don't take a steady diet of those shows so every once in a while I'd I'd like something different in that gives it to me. Could I watch that every single week. No would be something that I would want to promote every single week. No Is it enjoyable that a day. Yeah with everything else taking place. Yes because that's part of the thirty one flavors Russell cons twitter feed noted that Shingo against Bandido may be the only now. It's a match that they announced the Super Show Osprey Black Tour Zak safer junior mazing read also confirmed for the event ring of honor had a busy weekend Mardi skirl his seemingly for all of the headache ached at that company had between really march of last year. When who quit to kneel dash would quit? Madison rain quit it. Brody King got hurt. Madhavan didn't get over Kenny King. People recoiled against him winning the rumble. The alert debut that fell flat endzone Gas Gas Burger King hurt again. Just things started to fall apart issues with fans the whole Kelly Klein thing. It just was a mess. Injuries left and right things have been looking a little bit Sunnier. Those smarty scroll resigned brody king has resigned nine. Hopefully he has a less injury. Plagued year seemed like every couple of months or so. He was getting hurt the briscoes every signed. If they were going to go anywhere else Dave donate observer radio man they should have made tried to go somewhere. Where are they going to go? WWE DOESN'T WANT THEM IN A. W I don't you know I great of a fit on paper as they are are they. I don't know Alex Shelley's back to face Ray Horace and Dan Naff on February twenty eighth and twenty ninety nine. That's nice they've also been booking. They're super card of honor. Show taking place wrestlemainia weekend in the best possible way which is loading it up with new Japan talent. They've now announced Jay White Jay white against Maurice Girl. The great slimy. He'll battle. Jake Jake Kenta Fantasma Ish Amaury Romero. Amazing Red will hombre nick oldest announce for that show so far are which also announced bringing back the pure title. Oh and he possibly may get a new roster member out of that deal. As well Anthony Henry leaving evolve hinted on twitter about his interest in the pure title. Not sure if I like this or not. We'll osprey about a month ago. said it was one of his favorite tiles and wrestling says once the rules to be updated with it brought back with updated rules. I don't know if I want updated rules to the pure title when you got guys like Jonathan Gresham right there who aren't over where you need them to be. I mean that that's Zyppah title. That was that was perfect for him. I don't need don't think you need to update the the rules too much. But we'll see the tournament for that looks like it's going to take place March thirteenth and fourteenth as she no that's anniversary weaken the titles are going to be after Wrestlemainia the tenth and eleventh when they're out in Pittsburgh in in in Columbus Ohio on that tour anniversary weekend with the got set it up is the past versus present theme on the thirteenth. They're going to have the anniversary pay per view special on the fourteenth themed named show. We've already announced that show generation next villain enterprises matchup. Although it's a little bit of a loose loose definition of generation next Alex Shelley Matt Side L. Teaming up they were not generation next at the same time. But they're going to be facing off against Mardi. Scroll Flip Gordon. They've also announced today Doug Williams Liam's who already announced for the show face off against Jonathan Gresham just seems to make sense their homicide against brody king. That's probably pretty fun. Allison Danger Nacro. Nacro butchered delirious and Grizzly Redwood also advertised so far jay lethal has issued a challenge to Xavier which is interesting some other stuff to get into. We'll hit the phones. Here we push up against the break. Don't WanNa wait too long here John. I'm in Arkansas Jonah Aria. I am doing great boy. That sounds like a amazing lineup for for that weekend. A- and following Oh boy and the bureau title being brought back hitting buddy of mine Who hasn't always they follow the H.? Just about the pure title after the press. Release it come out. I gotta say this this money. Scroll thing he might be the turnaround that Naro h really needs to get a foothold back into things. And I think he's smart enough to realize now that in today's pro wrestling landscape it's not necessarily about isolationism promotion where it's just us. And nobody else matters the cooperation with other groups and utilizing talents from other groups. And then sending your guys to other groups I think that helps everybody overall that whole territorial mindset of that. I think good thing I had a question for you johnny. Cut You off here. Just because some other people rushing Russian. Thank you very much for the call. sorry I don't want to cut anybody else short. Here's Carlos in Houston Carlos. Hey Mike Just real quick. He touched upon fundus earlier. as far as Rago tonight with the snowstorm Are they gonNA roll on with the show or are they going to do something of a tape eight delay or or or something because there's a apparently according to what I'm reading online there's GonNa be quite a storm tonight. Ah just wondering if you've heard anything on that like other going along with the shows promise so far the arena has announced that they're going to get along with it so much of the Car Carlos you know unless let's go into a state of emergency or something like that keeping people off the roads. They are going ahead with that show. I am sure that they have some some things Plan just in case although it sounds like all the town is there so that is not going to be a concern. Jim In Virginia. GotTa Rushie here Buddy. But how are you. And what's on your mind real quick. I'll auto tell you I really haven't been doing the power. I think. Most underrated wrestling shows that every all about t. the and and giving me and all that Jimmy faded out there but we got the gist of the call. Appreciate you call in hope. Everything is well for you my friend yeah. NWEA power you know. It's like there's so many options out there. If you don't like what's taking place place on a w whatever it is that you don't like there's always something out there few to sink your teeth into and I think a strong our own agent and Nwea Union. I think that is important. And I think a strong evolves important as a AA for wwe and and you know whether alone or whether to develop talent however you you want to look at. It needs to be there. And I need them to be strong. Come on changed this year up Mike Super. VP restaurants are alive. What a fly somewhere looking for cheap flights or cheap tickets then call? That's right. Call the low cost airline travel hotline now now for prices so no. We can't publish them anywhere. 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They offer increased income as possible using strategy suited to your goals and may require buying multiple annuities and holding full-term. You're listening coming to wrestling observer. Live with Bryan Alvarez and Mike Semper Vivey on the sports byline broadcasting network producer dom was reminded minded. This week does not get any better wrestling. Wise will not be going to the show in San Jose Y smackdown comes and that means barren core of is going to pour it on thick about vow. Kansas City his team where he's from winning the Super Bowl over the San Francisco. Forty niners very short on time bomb or call on the line. We gotta get to Moses in San Diego. Thank you for waiting patiently my friend. What's on your mind? I appreciate you Mike. Thanks for making me the real quick Are you hoping we get go. Go to oversee Shingo Takagi for the never built and do you have any update on Coda no update on Kota Right. Now as far as the sickness goes was wasn't on any of those new beginning shows I love the thought of Shingo and go to I love the thought of Shingo holding onto that felt that built has now gone from the Haas title and most thanks for all non so long. They're a man who has gone from the hostile to the boss title now. Shingle go out there and and chop and pound away against goes in the world of course is going to have a banger with Goto. Yes literally in more ways than one but he can take that felt offended against. We'll Osprey we're going to hear him against against against Bandido. Obviously the belt will be online against Chris Dickinson but no matter what the style is there is not a style that Shingo can't work easy perfect person for that Bill L.. especially if you're going to use it as a transitional belt maybe to bring up a we'll all sprain officially make him a heavyweight so much more to get info from this weekend. I know Dave Meltzer and Brian are going to talk about a ton of it. We've got saint. Louis Milwaukee announces new places dynamite to be taping dynamite has also added added a South Eastern Continental presentation. They're going to be doing this. This coming up this Wednesday Huntsville So we'll see how that goes at. I thought the Memphis one was a little bit. We hope they do a little bit better in hype that one down there and Hans for a little bit more but a ton of stuff gave him. Brian are going to get into knife or subscribers caressing observer DOT COM and as far as this show goes for here for you every day and we shall talk to you again after a while. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed. Radio Network Broadcasting Live twenty percent or by Newsweek in this stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram in the public service charges cast February third twenty twenty on Mike Clifford former Morgan. 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Southern border the the groups contend it's unconstitutional for the trump administration to abandon environmental health and safety regulations to speed wall construction including the three hundred seventy mile. Arizona Zona border with Mexico Rob Peter Senior Arizona representative for defenders of wildlife says a steel wall would threaten habitats of hundreds of animals mini on the endangered species list as well as fragile areas. Such as the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument this area the south border regions as one of the biologically Klay richest areas in the entire country. So that's why this kind of environmental vandalism that wall would represent is a really really a bad thing president. Donald Trump is building the wall using an executive order declaring a national emergency and diverting funds from the military and other federal agencies that action action is currently facing several legal challenges. Mark Richardson reporting along with the defenders of wildlife. 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They're getting another job another two jobs and that affects what's is going on in the classroom when our great teachers cannot give all their focus to their main job he adds the state also has a critical shortage of school nurses counselors and teaching assistants assistance and a disproportionately low ratio of educators. Who are people of Color the PSE is also calling for an increase in the minimum educator salary from eighteen thousand five hundred dollars to forty five thousand dollars a year? That minimum salary has not been increased since nineteen eighty-eight Maryland's. It's the first state in the country with a program that offers daily wellness checks by phone for older residents State Delegate Ben Kramer sponsored initiative he says the folkestone. I don't answer the phone. After three attempts desert any contact person or local law enforcement will be called to come to their homes. Very often are senior. Residents residents. Don't have someone who checks in on them routinely so the goal here is to give them a little piece of mind so that we can try to help nope our seniors age in place and that. If they can't get to the phone there will be a follow up after I successful pilot program in two thousand eighteen senior culture became became available. Statewide last month. Finally are Eric Rudolph reports. It may be winter but thoughts of Sunnier days already. The mind in places like northeastern Montana talent the American Prairie Reserve Rowing nonprofit conservation project attempting to protect Montana's grasslands wants the public to see this unique landscape and there are signs the public wants to see it to Mike counts with. APR says reservations quadrupled last year. The conservation effort butts up against the Upper Missouri. Lever Breaks National Monument. Kelt says there's a new hut system on the river. We've been working for a couple of years now to really wide not options for people wanting to come out and exploited. Grasslands we have a hut that's on the Missouri River that I think can be a great stop for paddlers doing the wild and scenic Missouri River. Apr Stores both of four hundred thousand acres between Lewistown and the Fort Belknap reservation. I'm Mike Clifford. Thanks for starting with Public News Service we are a member ambulances disappointed or online at public service DOT. Org and listen to them and say yeah let everybody listen the USA radio network presents presents the greatest radio programs of all time coming the CBS Radio Workshop Gop dedicated to man's imagination. The theater of the mind this is classic Radio Theatre wanted to get away from it all aw. FBI and he's in war McGee the unexpected. The unexpected unexpected. Ah Now here's your host. Why cops evening friend? An episode of suspense from late in Jim. They're run John. Stevenson starring in Arctic rescue. This was originally broadcast sixty four years ago today January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty six. Thanks for tuning in on this. Tgi Friday thirty first day of January thirty first day of twenty twenty and we have three hundred thirty four days remaining. Until can we get two twenty twenty one or you're still riding twenty nine thousand nine hundred. Yeah you'd be surprised how many times I still say twenty nineteen instead of twenty twenty confederate general. Robert Lee became general in chief on this date in eighteen. Sixty five in the American civil war Three am began marketing. Scotch tape on this date in nineteen thirty. The the Green Hornet Radio show debuted on this date in nineteen thirty six and in Nineteen forty-five Army Private Eddie Slavic executed the first American soldiers since the civil award be executed for diversion desertion. Back in one thousand nine hundred eighty five president. 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Stevenson starring in Arctic rescue night's presentation of radios outspending spending theater of thrills. Tonight we bring you a transcribe story of a group of brave men who risked their lives in a desperate effort to save their fellow man. We call it. Arctic take rescue starring. Mr John Stevenson Eras Two nights spence. Play Arctic Rescue Christmas Thomas Night Miles and miles of endless anti broken vice an ice floe drifting acting somewhere in the vicinity of the seventy third parallel north of the Arctic Circle. Nothing but I that is really nothing. If you look Catholic through the winter night you'll see two tiny dock blemishes. A figure of two men. One twisted in an unconscious are skipping. Jonathan Blake the other figure Gerald. Excuse me own it makes us sorry civilized men in Conservative wilderness of ice waiting out listening picture. It it's a different picture you've seen if you've been part of the excited standing at the battery of a New York waterfront on June. The year eighteen fifty to the moment of departure. I Lady Franklin. It must take the high tide me. God and his great mercy protect you and your men from the perils which await for Ted for heart and we shall succeed where the other failed and ending the mystery of the Erebus and terror. Back to Dean in time for Christmas. Feast we prepare Christmas celebration. Your men will never forget. Captain that can England next week. I actually pray for this talk of you. Thank you Croft. I stand many a watch chatted thinking of last night. The ball answering you that he's all of us. I mean what I made you staying. attilio niece lady thinking it is how gratefully officers and crew while the farewell ball you held in Iran. Alas not grateful one Captain Blake. Please bring them all home safely. Come come now lady. Thank you know. Need Jessica is a sturdy ship. The men are in good health and lovely spirits. We'll be back Christmas title. Change the other way then. Goodbye and good luck cat. Lady this this breakoff Captain Blake the banisters. Kill it Godspeed thank you. We shall see evidence Christmas Week. Let's get this yes yes you're that all hands it then morning. Stations business to sir. Pass the oldest accustomed to Kostov. Aw what a what. Eh Shifts underway. Mr Failure is the site of New York. It's last-ditch be seeing for some time to a good long talk Jessica. Moves slowly to the outer harbour. I watched a tiny delicate white donna crowd at the walk. She stood beside lady Franklin waving. I watched until the morning fog erased in the New York waterfront. Uh aside from the ship's log I decided to keep a running account at least will be transferred to what to John's from onto the current fit any disaster. The first three weeks of navigation north. Were merely a matter settling down to ships routine on June thirtieth that he is after officers mess. We did punked farewell on the Greenland coast at the time. Had come for the captain to read a letter of instructions given to him by lady. Franklin Captain Blake. I'm sure you will do all the Dinnie men. Ken In discovering the fate of my husband's and John Franklin and his two ships Erebus and terror. But my only fear is that you might sacrifice your lives and the unknown regions of the Arctic. Therefore let me we state that above all else. The preservation of the lives of you and your companions is more important to me than the purpose of your journey. God in his great mercy preserve you all from harm amidst perils which await and restore you to us safely and in health. Breath is whether it's your sincere detached friend Jane frankly. These are the only written instructions as I have. Gentlemen now this is the map. Please Gentlemen Admiralty. I didn't get of the Arctic regions. We pitchy map almost completely blang. I missed Halladay. Thousands of miles of chartered wilderness. And somewhere in that frozen Tundra sir. John and his men vanished now. Search will begin tomorrow when we upped anchor in God. We pick up our ice pilot. Mr Patrick Henson's or medical supplies and then make the Arctic Circle acted circle. Sounds like the edge of the world is doing frightening to you. Right Mr Halliday Bible you. I would respect this Stewart's tier of what lies before us. Captain I was just thinking if Franklin was looking for the northwest passage passage. Probably make an approach through here. Lancaster sound must've passed bonds. Bay according to our information there are Eskimos at Bonds Bay. They might have seen ships into Lancaster. Sound and if they did then we'll have something to go by. I hope Mr Hansen understands ESP devote dialects. They can tell us. But I don't see how we can cover all this territory and get back by Christmas captain. We have no choice. Mr Stewart get caught beyond the Arctic Circle Circle after the summer months. We may never get back. Never I in the winter. The Caesar covered with great ice floes once a ship is frozen in in those latitudes. Stay there until some thought and you can't imagine hovers Arctic Winter Holiday. I I suppose suppose not Franklin and his men were probably frozen in for the winter and they never heard from again. It's actually that will give you a beef idea ultra reinforcement. No more after Mister Hinson comfortable any questions. I have nothing but questions captain. I wish I had the answers Stewart. Uh the next day we dropped anchor. In the harbor of Ga air we could take on additional winter clothing dogs eskimo drivers and Mr Hansen. Our ice go. Tab was nothing more than a few Hudson's bay trading company that we prepared to go ashore alone. Boats suddenly appeared it alongside captain. Blake I Patrick Hansen. Your ice pilots about Cindy voters. Show Hoya Mister Hinson all the time for that captain but we planned on picking up supplies. Dogs brought them in the boat. Watch the rush Mr Hansen. This Jarrell stood and I I made never been to the Arctic kick before Mr Stewart. No take my word for it. We better get up Dave. I'll we got the summer weather. You Bet all right so we run into a little. Summarize Jessica's repaired for it. Yeah she looks like good strong ship. You never seen iron ship up here before and steam engine to. That's all the Jessica has. There's an additional iron plates across to Ho as well as edited briefing. Thought you and the forward bending the bow is solid iron and razor sharp at the end that will do your rice. Mr Hansen to knew she at the ice can do to ship. Even iron chip Mr Stewart View received my letters and you made inquiries about the edifice. Some here. They couldn't get dogs so they headed for Pawns Bay across across Baffin Bay. That's right just as we saw it is L. A. Day Esa get those supplies aboard them. Prepare the ship for sea is observed. You can watch US across the Arctic Circle next and onto punched me. North by northwest costs leaving the last outpost of civilization behind this and cross the Basha Day on July fourth across the Arctic Circle and we had ice freezing deck and in the rigging a day later. We saw I floating iceberg. But this time of the year we should not have seen either one from goto Dupont's bay six and a half days. Perfect con on lending. We found a small contingent of Eskimos. But nothing else they. They seemed hostile and would give us no information. Then as we were preparing to return to the Jessica one of the natives a girl rushed from one of the Hudson down to the beach Say Mister Hinson sure captain. Look she wants us to look at it. It's a small small last button from naval uniform. See She traded this insane delivers what what does she mean by that Yosef. She turned to say man's knee gallagher. Joseph Gallagher Stewart is that let name months of John's cruelest. I'm looking for. It's here master Joseph Ghana. They've been here. 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Thirty first one thousand nine hundred fifty six in the newspapers of that Tuesday sixty four years ago. These were some of the headline Atomic Energy Commission in reported yesterday. Testing of nuclear engine designs for aircraft is now underway at the E. C.'s. Idaho experimental plant a semi annual report of the Commission and covering developments in the last six months of one thousand nine hundred eighty five said. The aircraft reactor program was accelerated from Washington Secretary of Agriculture Benson came under fresh fire in Congress. Yesterday with Congressman Verdict Republican South Dakota suggesting that Benson and some other cabinet members should wear muzzles demands for Bentsen's resignation rose last week after publication of a letter signed with his name applauding a magazine article. which called the American? Farmer are a pampered. Tyrant Benson's apologetic statement. Friday that the letter to the editor of Harper's magazine was a stamp. Boehner added to the uproar on Capitol Hill. But there were a Republican from Utah. Senator Bennett told the Senate yesterday. The Secretary Frank. Acknowledgement of the editor editor showed courage and should persuade critics to withdraw draw their demands that he resigned. I'm Minister Eden pledged Britain's full support. Yesterday the President Eisenhower Statement of policy that Russia should ease world tensions tensions by deeds not words Eden personally assured Eisenhower. Britten stand at the first of a series of White House meetings called to coordinate British and American Policy Captain William Jed winged across the North Atlantic and treacherous winter weather at the controls of a single engine plane but is not forced him to abandon yesterday and effort to fly nonstop from New York to Cairo. He sat down at an airport near Paris after thirty four hours eleven minutes in the cockpit of his gleaming silver silver and Yellow Star of the Red Sea the forty year old native of South Haven. Kansas was forced by icing crested wings. And six hours of tiring instrument applying to end his flight in Paris. The explosion late last night rock. The home of the Negro Ministry has been a prominent leader in the eight week old Negro. We grow boycott of city buses. Because of the segregated seating arrangements early reports indicated damage was extensive however police would not immediately mmediately say if anyone was injured in the home of the Reverend Martin Luther King the chief spokeswoman the demonstrating Negro population of Montgomery Baltimore's Alta. Moore's two hundred thousand regular bus and trolley writers unseated by strike for the second time in four weeks Mumford their way to work yesterday through streets jammed with cars. There's all city and state officials kept pressure on the Transit Company and Union drivers prospects for an early settlement did not appear encouraging from Tallahassee. Florida comes word that in one thousand nine year old German girl as Governor Leroy Collins to help her find a not rich but wealthy American husband Keirin Aletsch of Berlin writing. I wish that he is tall and from a good appearance he must be in a certain position. I mean he must be rich but wealthy his is character shelby likable. That is my greatest wish. Karen pin three tiny snapshots to the letter which were not clear enough to give a good idea per qualifications nations however she did send along. These vital statistics wait fifty one kilograms height one point six seven meters hair. Middle Blonde is blue in her letter. Addressed to the mayor of Florida said she could find an American to marry in Berlin but she much preferred Lord because she quoting likes nature. Richard Florida is wonderful. No word from the governor's Office on whether he was going to be searching and those are some of today's top news stories as reported in the newspapers up Tuesday a January thirty first nineteen fifty-six on your Radio Suspense Arctic rescue which continues now on Classic Radio Theater after leaving Ponds Bay. Two months passed without incident. Then we ended Lancashire sound and approached. The sketchley trotted islands along on Bass Strait and we counted great mountains of floating ice and we had only a few hours of twilight each day. We crossed the seventy fifth parallel North into Wellington Channel to Bathurst island last of the islands in my neck and on September ten with a change northwest iced gail sleet and heavy fog at foster's to a crawl and whoosh mammoth ice floes at closed in all around us. Even I on the temperature I gotTa Daban six degree three smaller all time getting the temperature still nothing zero. What do you think of this lead and take maybe the tobacco go to hear back? I'll take a look stern heads back outwear. Tin The response fix Khalid is getting spoiled. The captain wet seems to be closing down on us on all couch. The walls of the lead moved in closer until a jump to the ice from either side of the ship. And then the Jessica was through the X.. Making her own slowly. We lost it. Finally ship gave up to the ice frozen in stop. Engines is disturbed. Catch Asa Captain Blake. Looks like we can forget about looking for John on Franklin and he ships be frozen and they're going to have to look out for our lives you bet You are listening to Arctic rescue. Tonight's presentation in Radio's outstanding theatre of thrills suspense fifty four years ago January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty six suspense on Classic Radio Theater. The conclusion comes up and just three minutes on this Friday edition right here on your favorite station. How did you sleep last tonight? 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Ed List from the pressure of the flow Russians were cut in food water and coal consumption furious gales came and went there were more freezing temperatures often as lowest thirty five below. The doctor was a busy man. Daily all hand suffering from frostbite many from gangrene conditions about the Jessica they did. They couldn't get any worse October. November December should we sort of home holidays and a lady Franklin and this cross sitting alone. The Christmas feast that was was to be held in our on Christmas Day the cook outdid himself. We had a feast of the Jessica on the left of the salt pork and the beef and with the last of the also Ale and minced beat the cook made pies and we had a celebration Christmas Day. Eighteen fifty two men. The captain has is a word to say I. I dropped below to offer you. Greetings on this holiday and to wish you a much happier Christmas Christmas eighteen fifty three one one year later wish to frozen in some came and passed without an appreciable rise in temperature on the ice failed to break up and living panicking occasionally see lubbock lime juice. This means scurvy. Also the loss of eleven minutes doctor and the ice pilot Hanson among them all to chase pull their three from scurvy and the restroom gangrene gangrene of the men had frostbite. Second Christmas or the optic flow that holds the ship is shifting south down peels he saw the shores of King William Island in the captain sent three men on a sledge to look for food devils Iraq. Ken Uh anything they returned today. Did you find it in a can. We also found Empty Pinton cans and in bits of ships tumor stirred. Listen to this. It was written by Franklin himself eighteen fifty one. Let it to sixty nine degrees. Longitude eight degrees. West Taylor sank when ice broke head of a still flows in since April twelfth eighteen fifty. We are deserting the erebus attempting overland much to Beck's fish river Hudson Bay if unheard from when this found. We must be considered lost so John Plankton captain h a mischievous. We've found on what we came for. And they're all dead. I if something. It doesn't happen pretty soon. We'll be dead to make sure a very merry Christmas captain mm-hmm. I hit the ice breaking cracks in the ice. And then through the helpings another great they might of six hundred yards up into the sanctions on this great. Thanks thanks for the We're going out on the ice. Ace could feel the ship jarring. Listen I believe Jessica Can aware of pain in my leg movement. I in my eyes Captain was helping me. Look I looked into the winter. Darkness familiar cited the Jessica so nothing nothing but I I'm feeling about the ship. Gone the rest of the none those on the other side we have. We no keep walking. They keep walking. We've looks to let's Christmas without you. Log in US goof. SKIP move it on. Finding Jagged Hunks of ice falling fin spots. Meg Scott froze. We beat the Ice Shelf walking in circles. Through the optic night. This realist in this sleep. Bitch the ice comforting. I don't sleep wake sleep. Vapors will tomorrow this morning this to it but we'll be hidden the EH C.. SUITE SLEEP PAT I. School have crave sleep to the sweep. Was I was right here. In the sky over the horizon in the night was over cash other just aw bright in the distance I could see. Aw Bright Star over the horizon pop up on your feet going to keep talking. I WANNA see so. You've got to get up on walking their thoughts. That stop unconscious now. What could it be? The nights to the optic stops for the August proving this talking plaza awesome. I couldn't believe what certainly a bad through the dacas beneath the stop outline ship off breath He's coming out of it house. Do It do it. I Stock Doc Holliday. In the flesh I saw ship. You're on it. But how did it come from the Jessica. I know it's the oedipus one of Franklin ship the one they deserted. Who did it come from? Well there we were all of us. Except you in the captain lying on that flow off Jessica. Went Down Ready to die it just as we thought you died and then just as graceful as you please we see our ship. Drifting slowly out of the fog through the broken ice right to us the captain I left him out on the ice now. He's all right. We brought him aboard and pretty soon. We'll be on our way home. Yes the ice is open we can get out the other of us. Were take us back. How's that for Christmas surprise? I follow this time. Is He's sleeping. What was that? He said he followed a stock. Aw Now we must have seen that land hang on the main must mistook it for a star saved his life and the captain being that. It's still Christmas. I guess you could call it a miracle. He's talking that Sir Uh Suspense off in which John Stevenson starred in tonight's presentation of Arctic rescue suspense is transcribed in Hollywood. By after the other night was written by Gus. Bay The music composed by Ed guy and conducted by Wilbur Hatch featured in the cast where her butterfield. Norma Varden Lillian via Richard Neal George Walls John Dodds worth and Layton January thirty First Nineteen fifty-six suspense on Classic Radio Theatre Visit Our web page classic Radio Dot Stream have a great weekend until your friends. The great radio shows are back right here at this spot on the dial classic Radio Theater on your favorite station and the USA. I say radio network. You're listening to the heartland newsfeed radio network broadcasting live twenty percent of newspeak. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM's public service charges artist Caspar third twenty twenty. I'm Mike Clifford former New York mayor. 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Now to really widen the options for people wanting to come out and exploit grasslands we have a hut that's on the Missouri River that I think can be a great stop stop for paddlers doing the wild and scenic Missouri River Apr Stewards both four hundred thousand acres between Lewistown and the Fort Belknap reservation should i Mike Clifford. Thanks for starting to weaken public news service. We are member supported or online at public. Do Service Dot. Org in the USA radio network percents the greatest radio programs of all time. Dylan the United States Marshal the first man. They look for the last thing I want to meet. It's a job that makes them an watchful. Lonely gun smoke. This is plastic. Radio Co Theater James Stewart as the six you have gun will travel over the lone ranger. Now here's your host. Why it Cox in Western adventure this hour Jimmy Stewart Stars as Rick Poncet? The six shooter an episode that was originally broadcast January thirty first nineteen eighteen fifty four. The trail to sunset James Stewart as the shooter The man in the saddle is angular long skin. The Sun died the gun in his holster is gray steel and Rainbow Mother of its handle unmarked. People call them both the sexual The NBC ABC Radio Network Presents James Stewart as the six shooter transcribe series of Radio Dramas. Based on the life of Brit puzzle the Texas Plains men who wandered through the Western territories leaving behind a trail of still remembered ledge Snow during the night. Thank wet snow Pine Trees and bank over the boulders turn on him white and I found myself lying under a heavy six inches of GonNa woke up Scar he looked like a white whiskered borough over there standing in and decide what was left with a campfire trying to shave himself dry. I don't take it easy boy. The fire started again. The would I'd gathered at the night before pretty wet so I got a hand act out of a pack and I headed over toward a little hill about a quarter of a mile away since the wind had been from the north. I figured some some of the brush on the far side might still be burning and very easy climate a couple of times in my the need but the snow was already beginning to melt fast. Even though the sun hadn't slashed this guy and that meant we'd be able to start it off on our show them stuff would be thinned down to Moseley's muddy water I at the crash on the hill loved around and the south side sliced away at a good sharp angle and grounds variety Dr a spot on a couple of dead oak saplings. Lying on the ground tenpy be blooming. Seemed likely they'd get far drill on. I kinda surprised to find jobs grown at this altitude even so some bothering scar from a Jack Rabbit or Squirrel Sure was making a Lotta racket. Wasn't like him get upset. And let's all that wasn't Jackrabbit as a whole lot more than that dropped my accent. I climb back the top of the hill as fast as I could. Climb son was inching over the rim of spooner arrange and I the reflection. The Snow Blind eyes focused I. I saw the follow standing beside scar. Tried a cinch. The saddle bag along and looked up and for a minute. He stood there. They didn't know exactly what to do next any jerk. The leather tightening put Mr Scar wasn't very helpful. But it didn't keep the amount now. Aw I knew. I couldn't make the snow before they wrote off and I didn't like the idea. Chances Shot not with scar raring away was but I didn't have much choice voiced on my first shot wide. Oh maybe five. Six feet scar was taken the spur sort of starting to move in spite of himself. Another another minute or two. They'd be out of range or that was close but not close enough and must the high on the leg. He twist around tried to get a whole Powell buddy his fingers slip off and I saw them slide in a small couldn't see whether he had a gun or not out the time there was a clear on between us and he was using the boulder for cover little spread. Snow told me I ah the rock right in front of them. I waited for him to answer my fire but one the sound from that side. Maybe it was just waiting to open. I'd get anxious awesome. Come out in the open. Well I wasn't going to be that obligent still the Najer. I reloaded my gun. Edged over to the ride. I can just circle without him saying maybe yeah I can come up behind him. Twenty minutes later I managed to skirt around the clear and he was up in front of me now just a couple of bowlers away. Got Up on haunches and I charge then. I saw why it's been so quiet. He was sprawled out. Face down on the snows staying on at red wasn't just his leg. That was doing the bladen either. I was a bullet hole in the small of his back in the piece of cloth fastened over it had come. Loose gun was lying beside him. Within easy reach I picked it up up still on bullet had been fired started coming to and I eat them on. His side is is kind of have openly. His lips were too heavy for them to rise all the way still a lot of things in my time. But I ain't never been horsey before odd. You better take it easy. I'm pullout addition. I guess I'm lucky. His whole man being caught always said they'd never hanging alleged rewards is wanted posters. Just waste to donate never hang as expressway tressler. You heard me yeah. Yeah I've heard everybody's heard amaze dress the one way or another to bed. It West your shot the I liked mighty fancier award. Three thousand dollars must do not counting. Yesterday yesterday. States Deco over to sunset. Jiji didn't like that a day being held not just took care of him. He won't be shoot. Nobody else. You Killed Sam Fletcher. I Dunno is named messed. You don't expect to file it another names all the many shoots. How'd you get out here without a horse? Good twenty miles from sunset opponent. This two couple of hours ago all that snow coming down. He's sort of missed foot. BERTA self assured having put him out of his fine. How messed I have Surat shame? Shame Man Gilo horse like that's only reason that dreaded take thank you and I had to have some gun is posse how much I've never stolen before I know hoc- well you think you you can hang on about. Hi Shawna the saddle. What folks you need a doctor scar carry us both only doctors and some yeah? That's right make this get this. You can try no. I'm not going back to. We might run into Paseo headway. Yeah we might aid. String me up in the other extreme and nobody turnover in your face but the Bandage Bangla Semester. Anyway is too few you can stay here and then you can say you collect the reward for yourself. Three I come on turnover long as he let again. But nobody's GonNa Lynch you treasure. His Commute Yeah how missed what align hang a stressor. He passed out again but he was still alive. Still hanging on by a thread. I managed to get a couple of makeshift bandages. Fastened on the bleeding seemed to have his leg wasn't hurt too bad. The bullet just sort of went through the flesh and it didn't look like broken anything but the wounded is back l.. Is more serious far as I could tell. The bullet had just gone all the way into his chest. I picked him up Latam across scars back. Then I looked a robe around is brought in tried to fix it so they wouldn't slide around too much of it was going to be very comfortable ride but is unconscious. Running would not all right. Let's go come on. We weren't able to make very good time with scar carrying both of us through all that slush almost two hours later before we became the main sunset trail just we turned on. I spotted the posse. least what I've figured was the plaza. Five man opened along toward us from the East East. Dog Prints had the for session and he was the local dentist. Anna recognize tie bar stone frosty ender behind him. Two boys bringing up the rear. I didn't look familiar. Probably moved into sunset since the last time I was there. War Howdy Odi Hello Doc. I said he was pleased. Reach Mr Pons houses. I'm cliff sloshing. This year's hard north I shit I recognize he the minute you come at the site. I said there's a security and I guess there's nothing is quite loud Brit what happened. It's our Tressler Dressler New Neil Patel. Gone Ceesay team. Oh right as it sure. Looks like them pictures on the posters. That don't don't take the cake as neighborhoods getting to be real outlaws haven Oregon Maybe they'll change their mind about hanging around after they find out what happened today. Yeah we've done a pretty good job of taking in welcome at Hertie. Good asked me. We set a record with Poncet. Help record oh you boys didn't need any help from me. Okay you would have found Tressler yourself or long what are you talking about Brits. We didn't have the faintest idea he was in these parts. Sure we were already on our way back to town. You mean you mean you weren't looking for I'm am I not well. What are you doing here then? I thought you were a positive Possi like we were hunting Georgia rabbit rabbit. Yeah you remember him. Don't you Rob Rob Pill. Jefferson General store a couple years back almost killed. Oh Man Jeffers Yeah. I remember Sarah Hebrew gene week ago. The one over the polk city. And what do you think he did. He headed straight for sunset and he tried to pull another robbery on this time. You did kill Sam Fletcher while he was added. Now just hold on a minute here. Are you trying to tell me that. You're looking for George Revenue Nudge. You think he's responsible for the robbery at the state depot and we know it grits looking for him anymore. We found why yeah a couple of hours ago. I do a cabinet over by Walnut Creek right and they won't be pulling no more holdups. Neither we resorted that you'd better let me explain this. He kind of hasty this morning. It isn't as if we didn't give reva trial. Hi How trial. Well there was. No doubt about is being guilty brick and seeing houses no judging sunset and we have to wait 'til next green for a formal hanging the speed things up on my you you didn't string him up yourself not very high up just a couple of feet. The Boys Hannah Brick. There's no point in your look all fired serious. There's nothing anybody can do about it now. That's true enough dog. There's nothing anybody can do. We'll will return to James Stewart as the six shooter in just a moment January thirty first one thousand nine hundred fifty four the six continues in three minutes on your favorite station. 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You say I gave them my word that he was gone to a medical doctor. I don't get you. You say he was afraid he might balint. We ain't got no grudge against Tressler. Brit I guess he's mean as they come but you never given us no bothering son's head that's all I told you. We didn't even know he was in in these parts. Why you should have known a dog? And he's the man who shot Sam Fletcher. Look Doc. I know what you're up to. Just Joshua S. You're trying to make ends up along and take care of George. All I'm saying is the Tressler told me he's held up the stage depot last night and killed the fall on charge. You Ain't Sherry. I'm about a series as I can be. Oh but that don't make sense. I I had had to REV it. What made you assure we knew? He broke and somebody said they thought they seem to be. And let me see who was Janis suits I think career yeah. We picked up his trail per from the depot. Read to that cabinet alone. Greg where we find him he admit the robbery and the shooting when he don't expect Amanda admitting that when he knows it's a rope waiting for him. Yeah well I'll tell you well. No No. No we hold vigil wrong about this. Why you just gotTa be wrong? You think I'm lying. No no no no no of course not everything pointed to revenue or maybe just making that up to forty told you the how did he find out about the robbery. Then where you'll know we wouldn't have done anything. We weren't certain in our own minds we will right. Why why you know that it's possible? We made a mistake. Well I'm not saying that we did but it is possible even if we're dead rather deserve hanging. He's deserved it for a long long time. Yes that's what I'm getting at. We didn't do any harm. Breath not really get an Oh of course not but what if you tale folks about this. Well they might not see it our way they might figure that we took too much. himselves see won't say anything. 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We did go off half cocked. I suppose we were kind of hasty with revenue where we're sorry about it but there's nothing we can do for him now. That seems you told me that before while it's the truth and sure within. What would you gain by getting into hot water letting people know that we kind of overstepped the mark? Is that what you call. Overstep on the mark would be different. Revenue was innocent. Well somehow I got the idea that he was robbery. Maybe but he had a brother Ponce's He'd be alive today wasn't for George Rabbit. Is that why you hung him to get even for your brother. No no no no cost. We'll just just doing our duty as citizens we thought he shot. Sam Fletcher. Why why are we standing here? Argon wants to try and make trouble. Ain't got no proof. His word against hour clips right. We can even say that record confessed why everybody accent settled beliefs. Well then I don't see what you're so worried about is we ain't worried Brit not really. Of course we're not. I know you pretty well. We've been friends longtime why you're not gonNA go out of your way to stir up a Hornet's nest no I'm sure that well I answer. Sure just a minute poncet. You're not leaving here yet now. Frost and borders. It's about time we started using our heads he goes into. Tom Spreads this story around the law. Believe it whatever. Brit onset says that's Gospel but he ain't going to say anything that's right he ain't ain't riding in into sunset. He's turning around and heading east is that's all I know you're fast man on the draw but there's five of us. You're not that past no Reagan. I'm not we want to get into except Brit frosty. Start saying we might have George Rabbit mattered. That ain't done at all. His family might not agree with your cliff. They found out the truth about about that whole of last night. And he's got a brother two. Maybe they is something in what processes but we can't stop Brit now if he takes it upon himself as stop reverend. Didn't we the gun away. Put It away for. I'm sure the pundits right in east. I'm wondering you ever breathe a word about what Pressler told Yeah. I don't like Ben ordered around frosty and just gave away from sunset. I'm up I said WOW al.. I held my ground. I knew frost and are pretty well. On her newly wouldn't showed his business would rather rather pushed him in the deep water but not that Dave watched his jaw muscles tighten up is so limited bead of sweat begin together between his eyes and for a minute. Nobody said anything and then barshop forward. I told you to put it away for us. De wasn't what we already done today. Bad enough. You WanNa kill somebody else. We got nothing wrong. Get three or Scott. Hi deserve the Hanley on him. What about Brit spos-? He deserves being shot. Now I'M NOT GONNA ask for that gun you're holding just proves our wrong. We were this morning. We've been right. You wouldn't need it shut up we've been right. We wouldn't be standing here freedom. Shame you feel shame. It's where you don't want anybody to hear but that's why you're threatening Brady and I'll make good on that threat to we're going into sunset and tell them what happened. We're GONNA take our medicine. You'RE GONNA look at ages because rabbit didn't kill Sam Fletcher. Even if he had still wouldn't have been right I reckon we wouldn't have found out so quick but sooner or later you know adhere tie a yellow got a strike a yard. What Danica back? We're just as anxious to string up. Reverence arrest US things. Things didn't turn out the way you figured strew enough. That's what you're clear who you got the gun for us to stop me if you want to along. Yeah Okay Earth monitoring on Rosty kept on yellow until they're almost almost out of sight then he turned and shook his head like he couldn't figure out what had happen picked up tressler bought in. I laid it across Scars Back Jack. Frost swung around and stared at me. And he'll folks segue done fine. Nobody would have known about Tressler Hustler. meet up with him today. Why because it snowed last night and his pony stumbled and he needed another horse? Eddie no reason. Oh maybe not frosty may not you coming into the town yeah In the shooter is transcribed. NBC Radio Network Production in Association Association with revue. Productions it is based on a character created by Frank Burke underwritten by Mr Stewart may currently be seen in the universal international pictures of the Glenn and Miller story others in the cast were Robert Griffin. Harry bartell Lamont Johnson Howard McNair Forrest Lewis Special Music for this program was by Basil Adam. The entire production under the direction of Jack Johnstone all characters and incidents were fictitious and any resemblance to actual characters or incidences purely coincidental. Oh by the way you'll be interested in knowing. The sex shooter has been chosen for broadcast doormen overseas to the facilities of the armed forces. 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And here's the story of the three road to administer uh-huh I mean my honest Amish table ringing being all along On Ah to call upon thank Harvey Floor counting on you. Oh Man Dan this what am I supposed to do. You can tell where she was about the most thrilling experience of your Great Scott it's my turn already. It certainly is frank and I have an idea. You're going to give us a story about Mexico. You've been all over Mexico. Where yes I've seen most of it but I doubt if any one man can quite see at all? I have marvelous experiences in the Mayan country. And you could hand and why don't you tell us about that. I shall someday but I understand that this clip wants. The most thrilling experience of my career didn't occur in Yucatan but in the northern part of Mexico in the state of Sonora. This is all you gentlemen have heard of the notorious Punch Avia. You have any trouble with you. Well he tried to kill me and I tried to kill him outside of that. We didn't have any trouble I Did he do all ransom. No he got me in all started this way. I'd been supervising an engineering project. Near Prieta Data Punch. You began taking as usual and she and the border towns raided and burned round shows. Stolen cattle general proved himself to be pretty some rain. I had never seen him but one of my Mexican lubers came to me with a story that he used used to be punch. Sylvia's Lieutenant Lieutenant. I think it was. This claim that he knew where punch Sylvia kept his trader. There was a secret canyon in the Serum Mountain where he had hidden all his lewd and us out to you. It certainly did if if I could outwith veer by stealing his treasure I just about ruin him if he couldn't support army is powered begun. Furthermore a lot of that money in fact most of it had been taken from American plumes or even banned layer recompense moon former and back for the USA. With everything. I could get my hands on was daring scheme. Dangerous business to me. He was here. It was plain foolhardy but I was called called by the spirit of a thing. This Mexican had a map that showed the exact location of the treasure. Took another American into my confidence. Young Sologne named Arnold would previous battle with fear and who hated. He's very name. So the relies the Mexican Arnold and I all headed into this little canyon in the mountains where we hope to find the then York these. I'm low because via E on for Ambriz from dead the three. Let's see if it agrees with them. Yeah so this is where the Oh boy buries these pressure pretty desolate looking place. If you ask me these in your me I am the unmanned on northeast bless financial via e. Men will not keep his money. There's a deserted ranch house on this map rim as seas anywhere the NBA via just begun. LOW BOOM BS lost out. Your horses are moving away from remains. We'll see see I. Yeah what's the matter with those horses very nervous. Look at them. Horses consents danger ahead of men. I wonder if there's anyone else in this canyon funding in yours. Let's get busy. Forget horses yes. The sooner we got him here the better I'll like it like can just see via stringing up the poor devils who were hung on that three all alright replaces west of this complementary Anita then Lyon with Killington peak and two paces to the north there's policies on his ninety three ground. She has been there before. I don't give me a pick and fire on ambush move Bloomberg view these men with our live hustle beyond a dustman. They down the murder ranch. Houses maybe we can. We can make that break house. Barricade ourselves they WANNA break. Where's Miss Interesting? I think they've got me she'll be back. Oh He's heard. He shot one or two right on heartless seniors. I can look go on. I stay for the on their more while. You're right on because then when I die out of your seniority move anti has that'll be but he's gone. He can't live ten minutes. Got To make everything straight ahead inside the away at them. Let me I need GonNa crack at the around the rare horses Petiot. Elisa's hurry to even closely. You mean the Post Beers minted tired. At least we picked it out. Then we go. You're right as usual even this year. Old Woman the American girl American. Oh I thought you will bend for you David. My Father Ni- onus ranch was your. Ooh killed him his men kill him only an hour ago. I thought I thought you were men. Oh they go out of here to recruit. I'll belong to you alone. He'll be here in thirty seconds against Garland right. I'll stop the can't desert you to. You've got to save the girl begging you to let me stay. Take back with Ms Davis. Hurry Anything Arnold and when you give me one for me. uh-huh Scot wasn't while she was we'll have gone on land. I wrote for two days created where I knew I was safe there girl and tried to organize it force to return to the Terrible Canyon. It was three days before I could get a group of eight men with enough courage to go with me. What had happened there? I could only guess. The ranch house had been destroyed it by fire. There was times of battle and several men Remiss poor on homes have died and that house but since that they knew the man has ever seen punch over here and I'm sure that Arnold published what he wanted to do. There was money in the spot that we're supposed to contain the bandit flew to this day. I've seen a penny punch-ups treasure. It's hidden away somewhere in the mountains of Mexico and some day. I may go after it again. The man that story make Spring Harvey like the adventurous and up to win a mess to tell the story. WHO shall it be? Do Your Thang. Aw John You're not eh and came on in Oh Aw neat I on and Aw Man AH AH on demand. Ah I and as you say goodbye to the World Adventurous Club. Don't forget that you always a welcome guest. They invite you to join their group and here. 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No there was that Catholic and Pentagon out whether she didn't happen to mention where she was going did she. Actually you don't get slapped with the mile. Okay but I ask so your question remember well come to think of it. I do happen to remember. She said she was gone. The Union station Matlock. She was crying. Tell me something else. What does this misstatement look like? Once she wearing. Oh Gee blondes in dark shot away as sure but not one of them. We thought kind lunges. She's break great man he was wearing them big floppy heads all she can get away with them so because like I said she short but not. We'll thanks thanks very much. Now now I can pick a right out of a crowd This is wonderful wonderful. Valentine called you from the Union station brother that means you can catch coach wise splitting your size for minute lieutenant. Roddy I'd like to know what this is all about. Well there's no such woman as Maj Damon I dictated that. Let it to my Secretary Moose certainly can be on your opinion about a stunt like that. He didn't even recognize dodging Williams dressed up opposite janitor of policewoman fair scrubbing the floors. And I I know. He's seen the both around headquarters at least a dozen times. Oh brother that's your big sleuth. Portion of your life is complete. Why don't you give me a hot put? I love Look look you. Don't get it. All this was merely incidental. I had to get balanced out of the office this morning. All the weight. Honey wait till you hear my Rio pay. I'm sure it's GonNa slain all right Miss Brooks. What Day is gay? Well it's one minute a new. I know what you forgot. You forgot. Just as he got what. It's Valentine's birthday I checked on. Just make sure we can't be. I've got gotta get out of here and get him a present. Where's my coat? Relax relax relax this time. It's yours truly. It was giving Valentine a president. Yeah how sweet. Yes sir. Look here here in this box. Yes Sir and then just a few minutes five. Five top notch mystery writers. All big shots in the field are going to be here to attend Valentine's surprise his birthday party. Lieutenant you sound like you're running a few. No no no. I've done them favors in the past and they're just dying to come along for the fun. Nafta Nafta what you did this morning. I'm suspicious of what you consider fun. come on how come on. Where's your sense of humor? We're going to stop this aid. Your Pony mercy with you. You is Vick and I'm betting Valentine's for it hook line and ticket. Pardon me I laugh. Yes Sir look to see agree to examine the supposed victim an announcement. He's dead and like just see Valentine going into action without even checking without even bothering to find out if there's really been a crime and in front of all those writers to Oh. ooh I'm not GonNa let you do what now. Come on come on reasonable. Valentine's put me on a few spots where I didn't look too bright. I need need this for my morale. That's what I make your bed. What kind of a Ben Wendel for you if I lose the boxer Goshen the I win? Okay you're okay now we Miss Brooks I want you to meet Steve Barron. He writes all those hardboiled detective novels about Dan Flint private. I you mean you write those books about damn flu young lady. One doesn't have to look like a thug. then you understand the psychology of talk to his in Canada and this this is Cornelio Williston. Who writes such wonderful but currently our story you see some of the people? I'm eating my night gruesome. When did the festivities begin? Lieutenant well Valentinus still probably wondering around union station. So let's get on with the introduction. This is Ben Forest and Miss Brooks. He's of the deductive who he's hit right cops today. I don't make the liveliest one you ever saw. Not Think so Miss Brooks your profession. You know what a cook look This is Sigmund Agreements Allies Scientific crime why he spends more time in our police lab than we do. Thank thank you lieutenant. I admit the thoroughness. Even though some of my colleagues nothing like being thorough that may and this it is finally young. Misty Copeland believes that every crime has the psychological basis. And that's the way it will always be as long as crimes committed by human beings. I don't mind suspensive Savannah but I happen to have a dinner party. Where is Mr Valentine? He'll be along any minute now berry or not. Look here much you You know what you have to do as I understand offended. I wore down the window blinds. Dock at the office. I turn on the night right in. Women defendant dying begin to light the candles on his birthday cake. I flipped the lights off and with the pathetic stifled scream. I crumpled to the floor. Oh yeah mother can and beat so repetitious even when you stage it just one minute and one more thing Green Mets I beg your pardon I don't oops poison Valentine's take one of those exotic venoms. You always fall back on in those incredibly dull stories of your. I may seem a little out of date successful accessible bestseller high like you but at least I use careful research. I'm not a hold. You tight a gentleman and remember. This is supposed to be a party. CUT It out green. I I don't like people to laugh at my work. You'll go through the annals of crime you'll discover the voice has been used more officejet. Everybody I think I just heard Valentine's any outside also us. I still think I'm going to win that now. That letter I got this morning I I met Damon. What is this are they? The matter of fact. They're all well no mystery I they might. You'll get an leader but tell me something. Get what about pajamas. And the scribe woman. Didn't you recognize Williams and this verizon hand you had me coming and going no hard feelings. Ask Look here provided Kate and some refreshments so come on celebrate okay. I'm just like screaming. Oh this is nice and cozy. Don't even have a match. Yeah use my lighter. That's the audience. Hurry up Valentine No. You don't get away from it. was that happens sounded sounded like for us. What's going on? Yeah you agreements to get those lights STA with him. Why is he lying there like that? So the town there barry helping. I better get a dog. Wait a minute wait a minute. Don't touch him let me get him. Get the corner. This man's dead lying on his guy on his chest. Dan What are you talking. We want to keep things. Well what's the matter Valentine. Aren't you interested. This happened in your office. I'm quivering like a leaf. I think the only thing that'll calm down as a piece of cake. Tell you still get up lieutenant. This whole setup is as crooked as a worm in an apple. Dining I get a new lands of my man joke. Didn't work the way I get taken for a ride in the morning I try to smarten up come afternoon. Well don't be such a ham for us here yet up. He always did like holding the center this day. Hey wait a minute. You're not trying to put anything over on me. I'm not kidding. There's no dagger in for us. It's just across says the same. He's been killed well. What are you talk on practical job this is no joke roxy right now must forester? There's very much debt we'll return to tonight's adventure. George Lord Valentine in just a moment January thirty first nineteen forty nine Bob Bailey starring in let George do it on Classic Radio Theater back in three minutes with the recession ending. If you've been putting off building your business now is the time to act. General Steel will meet or beat any price on a pre engineered. Steel building of the same size is and specifications act now before steel prices. Go Up so call us today for free information. 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That's eight three three thirty four Bible eight three three thirty four Bible Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station. I should January thirty first. Nineteen forty nine. Bob Bailey Stars as George Valentine in let George do it you'll find yourself a victim of a very elaborate and phony birthday choke planned by of all people kind of rally. It might have been fun except at the man who is opposed to play dead really died and right in your office and and in front of four top notch mystery writers. You know one of the four at the murder him you might call. It may him by experts. In fact that's what we do Uh Valentine why. Why do these things happen to me? I don't feel too good either like a accessory after the fact is I'm GonNa wait. Listen both Indian. Don't let your conscience bother till much forrest as murder was carefully planned. It didn't happen back there in my office it would have happened somewhere else. Well at least we're pretty sure they'll give it somehow. I still can't believe it was greenness. He just doesn't seem to be. The type of Angel is second abortion but the facts sure stacked up against him I tell you could not coupled with a feather when the Communists had forest poison jabbed with a hypodermic needle and then then to find the needle in Green Mets Talk Green. That said he didn't know how it got there and when everybody going around in the dark anybody could've put it there well. He admitted that forrest had been needling him for months telling him all he's been doing for twenty years as rehashing Sherlock Charcoal It's just a little too lieutenant but I certainly don't have any other answer. Well I'm holding green mets on suspicion of murder and I think he's going to turn out to be on man. Good being lieutenant could could be. Hey Brooke see we never did get to celebrate my natal day. Suppose we spended on treasure Saving applying the lights which well lateness to foster foresters apartment has all the standard equipment including copies Craig light another daughter the other room. Brian not to see okay. We're GONNA find out somebody's looking for something you've got to have. He's not missing a trick like just in case. But I don't have to like okay buster. I can't see you but I know you're in there. Come on vocal cords all right all right suit yourself. Now you're either going to have to jump out of that window at try to get past me. biking up your mind. I don't think you're gonNA jump Rancho just stay put while I find the switching now going to be the one null friend I feel like I was baking a cake and stuck my head too far into the oven. Oh judgment what did I do. What did you do? I don't tell me you put this in my Skala. I hit him Yeah that gentleman nine face down over there by the couch. Oh you handle yourself right. Well he hit. You know wasn't anything I could do except take my shoe off and hit him back. God I hope I didn't hit him too hard stern well SURPRI. Yeah big surprise. It's Berry Steve Berry any time on. Vary you realize your story. Sorry sounds as phony as a dime store engagement ray. I know what it's the truth Valentine I heard of people doing things for publicity but not anything like this but I'll try to understand my position in your office Valentine at that pocket the scene of the murder. Well now what would my readers they give. I then Flynn's literary father wasn't able able to solve it. Oh I can just hear the whole nation going. Just what were you looking for your enforced. His apartment and I I don't know does like you any little clues improve whether it was or wasn't greenshoe did just any little clue. I could find the murder. The to my new book might run into millions. You know it's just possible somebody might think you kill forester and we're here trying to destroy evidence. Hey what about that very me. Here's somebody why why I can't even stand the sight of blood it. It makes me faint. The story is my public. Expects from me all that mileage you just have no idea what to strain it. His on me green has the story and you have yours but I told you I am telling the truth and you got you believe me. I'll be able to tell you better about that lady. I got home very put a cold compress your head and you ain't. You'll join me. Where now believe it or not the public library to read some mysteries George getting laid can expect to read all those mystery books tonight. What are you looking for anyway? I know the Butler. Didn't this interview what we're looking for. Yeah see here are the books by Cornelia Williston. copen one of them. Yeah also one particular phrase that keeps bobbing in Tak anything to the police get him in the translucent twilight would you mind repeating in the translucent twilights. Yeah that's what I thought you said I just wanted to be shoot. Why should a lush raise like that keep popping up the books? Both them wrote for me on more intriguing. That'll Franks Cornelia anaemia. Williston is most accessible book. Twisted claw was dedicated to be G. Think fight here on the punishment. The BG kindred spirits with undying block. Look at that Brittleness Willison. You'd never think she'd go into baby. Talk gingered spirit. Look at this book the first one I ever wrote. It wasn't inside Ben for scale like all the later ones it was signed. BG Forester. Do you think maybe it's more than a coincidence. I'm sending a telegram to sweetwater Oklahoma donning. It's little streaks of logic. Bill would rather the book jacket on the twisted claw. Says Miss Williston was born in sweetwater. A telegram the local paper will bring us a lot of interesting details about running and then and then I may WanNa pick up my birthday party where it was violently interrupted with the same list of guests. Guess except of course the late. 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The conclusion of let George Do January thirty first nineteen forty nine time. What's the reason for this crab break? Just what have you got on your mind. Have you found something to clear this man here on coming to Michigan the medicines and other over. I if you're here to tell me how much I despise foster. You wouldn't be saying anything. That's not who he was obnoxious arrogance. But I wouldn't go to the double healing easy green much okay about nine okay. What are you know that we should know Brooks before the G- lieutenant blows a gasket? Goodbye Good Bye Josh dotting I shall meet you. Translucent fly light translucent modernist Williston those words seem to have a special meaning for you. There's nothing more beautiful than a translucent. Twilight is what's going on inside look wouldn't you say that was purple phrase Mr Copeland in the translucent twilight I I would not. Should you read your own books or if at least you read the ones somebody else wrote for you. What do you mean by that? What is this like you want all these fine detail not? She made the library. I believe US Williston will at Michi road. All of Copeland's books. As well as our own crudeness you knew what you're seeing that can't be the style of two different Allenton even knowing one phrase he recurring off in a book written by coach. All right as a crazy anyway. It could have been coincidence. Office this fall in love with certain phrases I use them over and over again without even realize it. They become just as much a part of him. Revealing is their fingerprints. You're right valid. I know right I keep finding my anti contain over again. I'm going to slam you since we opted. That's cool yeah. I my influences antique Mr Valentine I I famous I received a little information from sweetwater Oklahoma. That's supposed to terrify me. You wrote Copeland's books. Very good reason. He happens to be your son. What hit pride forced you to make a successful rider viewers John Coney Son Mitch Take it easy there? No there was a Mr Williston one time okay. Why don't you admit bitcoin into your a widow? It's all here in this telegram. All right what if I am. You're GONNA stop it. No Valentine yes. Cornelius quantity is my mother. She wanted to help me my rivers nobody else's business how K- okay okay so this is going to make headlines in the Saturday review of literature. Now what about go on reese mystifying the Williston. You very reason to kill for us too. Didn't you write iheart knew him except professionally. He was just another writer. And is that why you dedicated a kid. Twisted Claude of BG at I quote with Undying Love Forest as middle initial was G.. Kafer jared. He was the kind of man who had other women call him. BG and with the same undying love. You're right about that. Valentine forester was always bragging about his success with a fair sex. The truth is I once told him to his face that he was a Ha Valentine. Get to the end of this. Don't you see lieutenant on Forrester. decided he was through a Canadian. He held the whip hand the threat to expose the hopes of young Ted Copeland the promising new writer. Richard Canadian. You killed forester and in a way that would place all of suspicion on agreements. I didn't yeah. That's exactly the way it happened. I thank you Mr Pattern. Believe me Mrs Williston. I'm vegetal of course you know you're lying on year. What's this and I have an the idea that I won't be the one to prove that? Wait a minute. Are you trying to say. She didn't kill Farzaneh. She said so herself. Thank you for being a practical man. Tennis no no. This is one time. I'm going to stand on my own. Mother Ken he Joe Forrester Valentine describing what you had to come and join for such a long long time doing had had you have your whole life. I'm sorry I had to do it the way I did but I had a feeling he told the truth. We saw the gilding placed on you. I knew how much I love you. I saw three over all. I do and by scandal about the book it was going to ruin. Not only need you. That's why killing Sexy rematch would never in a million years poisoning anybody. When he knows he's authority in view? And you figured it had to be either Koneohe. What made you decide? It was the sun. Why Angel don't you remember when I was letting the birthday cake? Cornelia handed me the lighter. He was standing right next to me yards away from forced. You can keep your genius Badge Mr. What are you trying to do trip over you so now? It's just as Don John Yielded. Isn't there incidently my fine friend. I'm putting the cost of a new pair of shoes on the office expense accounts. Oh shakeout girlish superstition. Never Knock anybody unconscious twice with the same shoes next week. At this time we pick up George Valentine on an out of town unmet which begins on a train. That's just ballooned to Sharon. Tail Kinda cold out platform check. What I'm getting off as soon as the train stops get now here Jack? Let me thinking please. What is broken bottle? I don't like this is the blood that's not going to be my blood. Get off happy. Landing check stay on a journey John Gale and night's adventure unsure of George. Valentine has been brought to you by standard of California on behalf of Independent Chevron gas stations and standards stations throughout the West. Let George do it stars Robert. Robert Bailey has george with France Robinson roofing while they may her ears Lieutenant Riley. The night story was written by David. Victor Herbert Little Junior and directed by Don Clark. You also heard in the past where Jeanette Nolan Cornelia Roland. Morris has Kopplin Junius Matthews is Barry Howard as far as Louis Van Ruben as we met and route parrot as a scrub woman. 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Yeah as over across the slope of the moment they're getting the bodies out of what's left of the plane. I think we had already guessed it was an explosion. Alright dynamite in the baggage compartment probably put on boarding a piece of luggage figures Ron something down here in the city along those same. Lions Ryan's Liamine. The ground crew members one of the baggage handlers acting stage before flight six took off last night. A man named Ramirez. What do you mean? Strange range had one sort case it. He wouldn't let any other handles touch or did I just before takeoff. You know anything about Tigers Mac. I'm about to tangle with one Tonight and every Weekday Night Bob Bailey and the transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed. Expense Account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigators yours truly johnny dollar from special investigator Johnny Dollar Location Mexico City to the Home Office Guarantee Transport Insurance Company. Hartford Connecticut assignment. Don't the flight six matter. Expense account continued. I was taking Gino. Romero's word for it that the girl who was a tiger his word my own instincts. At first glance. She seemed soft shy lovely. Then you sensed a wildness about her kind of suppress violence. That brought up short. Made you stop and reappraisal. He leaned against a tree watching the bodies of the plane. Crash victims being carried down the slope in place in the army jeep with no sign of emotion on her face cool detached. She had no reason to be here and I wonder why she was the only way I knew we'll find out what's do Oscar. Yes what is it. Your marveled terrence heavily. That's right and I have not met you somewhere before all but but you're about to y name is Johnny dollar an investigator for an insurance company in the state. That might be very interesting work sometimes on some jobs other times it's only dirty and disgusting gusting like this time for instance. We all have our problems. Maybe I can help you with yours Mr will you. I'm not in the mood as me. I think that seeing ten bodies picked up and hauled away out of put anyone in a gay carefree move. Look beat it. You came out here sightseeing. Didn't you twenty miles from town so you must like this kind of thing I had friends is on that plane Mr Dalla so did a lot of other people but maybe not as good friends as you. I don't know what you're talking about and I don't care you h Palmer and Jim rourke where those your friends must turn. Let's get this straight. I'm not interested in playing footsie's or any other game you have in mind. You're wasting your time buster. Now get going wait a minute. Maybe you've got the wrong idea. This isn't just a social chat. Now you want to help me with my problem. Just one problem wondering how you're going to spend that fifty thousand dollars but yeah. That's a fair sized chunk doc. Money to drop right out of the sky talking about what fifty thousand dollars a money you'll get from the deaths of you two friends Palmer and rook. What do you mean so? Tell me you with them at the the airport last night when flights six took off. Yes I y you must have known that they both took out flight policies and that both of them named you as beneficiary. No No I. I didn't know I wasn't with them exactly based not up until takeoff than you claim this is all just a big surprise. Of course I didn't know a thing about it. It's just liked them. It's what they do. Why did you come out here to the reckless turns? I don't know Ed and Jim when my friends and I don't know why I came because I brought her Mr Nobel but I didn't bring her here to be pushed around by some morbid curiosity. No please this is Johnny Dollar Bill. He's an insurance investigator. They'll blatant star along. It was asking me some questions why you add in gem both took out insurance policies in my name. Why Flight Accident Policies Fifty thousand dollars word allows the blakely? You said Miss Terence's here because you brought her. I wonder if you tell me why you're here. I don't another any of your business. Sometimes I make things and sometime you may get your teeth knocked out there in pretty solid blatantly. Yeah well maybe. I'll stop sorry mobile APP common. Kim rival who builds business partners. What business to blakely engineering? We're willing some roads around Mexico City. How many partners just the three of you in? Just that's right. Dollar business belongs to me now. What about it? Nothing about it. Congratulations one more stop it. Let's go role model. I've got to get back to wait for them. If the truck I'll be there in a few minutes searches a dollar just one thing. Don't push me Blakely Glee. Ten people died over there on that hillside last night they were murdered. I intend to find out who did it and takes pushing to find out. Then I'll push you around. Yeah you probably will this thing hit bill pretty hard Mr Elliot have to make allowances along have been on a couple of Mon bomber rourke the same. It's nothing serious. Nothing romantic. If that's what you're thinking. It was all just for fun. was that all it was on this I oh man always claim to be serious. That's only part of the game. What else do you do? Ms Terrence beside play the game at all I'm a wealthy orphan is two Dahlie and my only career is drifting around the world playing the game. I'm ornamental irresponsible and rather useless. Maybe not entirely useless. Just being ornamental has has some importance in this world. So you play to now. I meant it. I guess I was pretty obnoxious when you spoke to me while ago I suppose I ask for it. I'm staying at the hotel. Tell Montecasino I'd like see again. I could teach you the game johnny very attractive offer outside of business hours. But do you think I'm mixed up in this. No I'm not sure well think about it. Johnny in calm me at my hotel Monte Cassino. That's where the Lagos's staying having to know him Komo yes of course. Why one of the passages killing lane was his wife? Didn't you know I sat named Lago said I. I didn't even know he had a wife another just for fun. I think you've got some wrong ideas about me. Johnny come see me enough straighten them out for you and something else. You'll find it out anyway so I may as well tell you. Tell me what I had reservations on flight. Six to was going over to van for the weekend. I canceled out at the last minute. I see. Maybe that's why I came out here to see for myself. I'm not afraid of death. I've tempted to twenty times to be but it does fascinate me. I stood there. Watching thinking could have been me being carried down that slow except the luck. DOC Why did you cancel out at the last minute. I was talked out of making the trip by Home Bill. Blakeley I watched swing down the slope live wrecks and lovely a strange girl of an era of aloneness abetter. Now that I felt would be whether even in the crowd crowd strange but also compelling exciting. She might be involved she might not. I didn't know I was sure of one thing. In either case I was going to see her again later. Gino Romero and I were heading back to the city and the government jeep leaving behind us the wrecked plane the crush trees and the lonely slow among later interested in your yeah I founder of interest. Yeah she's doing crazy. Things Better Devon floating with the is looking for danger lying the game she calls it. She's a your blaney game. Last thin persons are not be playing a game now anymore arts. Alright Gino and not that much gender spell. She's Gillian Anyway. I'll turn it on just as quick as the next one but I didn't know they don't thinks thinks she's been if he's not the thing she will do and she doesn't need the money she's very rich. You know that everybody says well. That's what I mean. It's worth checking in to see. But I still do nothing. She will do such a thing. It is terrible and she's too beautiful. Maybe I ought to give you the advice. You know before the beauty of a woman senior. We are all as brothers like senior blakely. I see he were look very disturbing. He did get a little hot under the counter. What do you know about him genome? Almost nothing is come here for three months now making the road and his partners Palmer and Rourke were killed in a plane crash. What do you know about them? They same nothing. They all arrive together. Always they work together play together then. Along on came marvel terrence drew they would rival for the data and then he's one thing was that they have the building for the machinery outside outside the city. Where House you call it? What about it a lease warehouse? They keep much dynamite Gino dropping my hotel. Del Prado Avenida. Juarez I changed clothes cleaned up. Sent some telegrams to the states at about that time Mac macklin phoned up from downstairs and asked me to join them in the bar. Expense Account Item Three sixteen dollars and forty cents drinks and dinner with a chief inspector of the Federal Department of Civil Air Transport and then some more drinks. It's been here seven years. Johnny like you feel at home here. I like the paper then. Their way of Life Chhaya again snow piling up along the loop the wind ripping off the lake crazy little joins along Baker street only of their last nineteen thirty two in high. And you're about do why don't you take a couple of weeks and fly up their own too much water under the bridge Johnny. Too many little walls here and there the word since thirty two. I'm McLean was flying in on one side or the other. Whatever where you know? Could Sam frowns on that kind of thing Johnny. So we've gotTA I saw an understanding I stay the heck away and he forgets about high see. I've got no complaints actually. I'm doing all right here but sometimes I sure do get homesick. The Old Town of course. It's probably changed so much. Oh Yeah yes been makes an Asian elephant. Thanks a global team. Hello Yeah what all right. We'll have you told a federal police videos. We just lost our best angle. Johnny what do you mean that baggage handler. The one I figured sip the dynamite on board the plane. The boys just no located edited is throat has been cut. And now here's our star to tell you about tomorrow's rose intriguing episode of this week store tomorrow. A bereaved relative lies a frustrated lover. Comes up fighting and a lovely lady in the case just vanishes join us. Won't you yours truly Johnny Dollar. Uh Yours Truly Johnny dollar starring. Bob Bailey is transcribed in Hollywood they were written by Les Crutchfield. It is produced and directed by Jack. Johnstone be sure to join us tomorrow night. Same time and station for the next exciting episode of Love Yours. 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Did you hear any anecdotal tales of how Liberty Forum was e- well they moved to a different sprint hotel. You're referring to the Free State projects yearly wintertime convention. That happened over the weekend in Manchester New Hampshire and it was at a new to hotel this year so it was actually in its fourth hotel. They they moved it to near the airport instead of downtown Manchester so the hotel that they had added in this time was arguably a better venue because I mean the the one that they used to have it in in downtown. Manchester is a fine venue. It's the largest convention you mentioned center and all of new New Hampshire but it was just too big for the Liberty Forum. The Liberty Forum is not the size that it once was it used to be an event that attracted several hundred people. You know. Of course it's peak was when Ron Paul spoke in like two thousand eight or two thousand nine and forget what year it was but I mean then. They needed a huge venue. But now it's just not like that anymore and it's it's actually sad what's happened to to liberty for me and I'm I'm not saying it's a bad event. It's I'm sure it's still fine. Event in its own right is just for whatever reason it doesn't attract the and this what people tell me right like I haven't been in four years right right. You can't give any first hand knowledge right but what people tell me. Is that the bulk of the attendees. Now our New Hampshire locals meaning that the people who have maybe migrated it here because of the Free State Project That are attending this event. And it didn't used to be that way. It used to be the bulk of the attendees. Were from outside of New Hampshire. Sure and so not only are the numbers down. So I've heard that it's no more than a couple of hundred people. Not only the numbers down but the because he eastern check like five to eight hundred so it's way down compared to what it used to be. I heard it was as low as like just over one hundred last year. But you know people don't know they don't release those numbers number so it's just what it's just what people look around and see although I can say just you know as as a musician. There's nothing worse than book and a show at a place that's bigger than your raw. Aw Yeah it looks empty like we did a CD release show at a place that held. I don't know man probably like could've held a thousand or something and people showed up. It was you you know and like you could tell we had a videographer doing some video stuff for us and make it just looked empty right and so that that was I think a smart move on their part to move to this new hotel because the area they have for conventions is smaller so a smaller amount of attendees. He's looks better in a smaller space. So they made that that move with good move for them also. The other hotel is not in the heart of Manchester. It's sort of on the outskirts by the airport. So the property is it's just a larger property. Meaning there's more parking the other location. It was like you had to get into a parking garage and then get your parking validated here at the hotel. Just Park where you need to park right. You're good to go so there's plenty of space to kind of spread out and it wasn't his cramped but you were invited to a thing that was out in the area right all. XFL Alternatives Expo. which is the sort of fork from The Liberty Forum it it was created in two thousand and seven at the First Liberty Forum. You're always on the cutting edge of like the new stuff. Right is not new though. It's all but I mean well. You know the forks and all that kind of stuff compared to like a regular Joe Listening to the show tonight you know you're certainly on the edge of stuff. I guess I mean they. They know who we are. We interviewing the all texts folks. Oh folks for years Because what happened was in two thousand and seven. We told this. No Jackson make the founder told the story on on free. Talk live on Saturday but just to sum it it up. He was trying he was on the Planning Board for for the first liberty form in two thousand seven and they. They wouldn't let him put the topics that he wanted had to put in about various different alternatives whether it be like alternative medicine or alternative currency or whatever different things. They wouldn't let him do who all the topics he wanted or they gave him very limited amount of time to like shoehorn. Four topics in an hour or something like that right so it wasn't what he wanted to see happen and so rather than like like fighting bag and Cajole with the board members he was just like well. I'm just GONNA do my own thing and He rented a couple of hotel rooms in the same hotel L. and just opened up his hotel rooms and said you know we're having speakers up here. I love that attitude. I I run into people all the time that are in the midst of doing things themselves. Or maybe they're involved evolved with the thing and and you know they complain about how difficult it is to you. Know work with you know X. Vendor or organization to do what is they want to do and so few people like just try to you know well all right. I'll just go do my own thing. which is what should happen? In a line of cases in my opinion sure and I think that that's unique to well not unique but at least more frequent to liberty minded people right probably is and and that's hopefully because people who are liberty minded are more independent They're more likely to strike out on their own if they don't like something because it's a lot easier to just complain. Yeah I mean it's a lot easier to say well so and so well let me do you know or whatever. Oh this board there so bad blah blah blah. They're running this event into the ground. Yeah just complain and complain but he went and did his own thing. And and that takes some effort and it's amazing like how well how effective it was considering this year. considering it was literally thrown together two weeks in advance. I mean he came to me and said hey you know are you guys interested in in sponsoring the event and I said well sponsored on behalf of Fork Vest da Party and so I've through some some money and on behalf of forecast because there is no official forecast anything so anybody who wants to. Can you know sponsor something on behalf of what I love that too and And so I did that. We got the hotel room room which hadn't been booked. There had been no promotion whatsoever for because it hadn't been booked there but there was no schedule and dude through together a schedule of of speakers an and that came together nice as it usually happens somebody cancelled right. Likes and always happens. But that's okay like he came to me and say hey so and so cancelled. Can you Can you fill villains. Yeah sure so. I talked about the gold back. Nice Oh what an excellent topic to a did you film it. No I didn't. I didn't come prepared to do that. I mean I always have my camera with me but I didn't have a tripod and I did. It didn't happen so you had to be there. Well sorry I couldn't make it out there A Jew but I was expecting to have both nobody who is supposed to be here with US tonight And and Aria out there repin happen fork fast at the liberty form. Because I'm not allowed to be there. Yeah and both of them turned up sick the the day we were supposed to leave so I hope it's not like corona virus or something like an and technically even though nobody isn't here nobody is here. Technically no no one is nobody see. Hopefully nobody will be nobody. Nobody see very soon I love the word play on that. I'm so glad he changed his name. It's so much fun. It is fun and it is going to be a lot of fun this year ear when he actually finally gets to file for the office because yeah you know it's still early. That doesn't happen till June. So by the time fork fest comes around. He will be the officially campaigning as a candidate for governor named nobody. That's which is very excited so great. It's just great of really good Response from people to like. He'll he's got stories that I'm sure he could regale us with Of encountering folks at like a bar or a store or whatever and when you know when he says what his name is like Hayden run for mayor of key so even though nobody even though no one actually goes in votes in municipal elections. They still I heard about him. They got the news. Welcome thank you speak of the devil. P Your ears must've been burning. I Yeah Yeah a little bit nice. We were just talking about how how much fun we have with the word play of nobody. Yeah Yeah it's always. It's always fun. 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I don't own the property and your landlord hasn't had a problem with it. None of your the other tenants there and and what I like about it is. It doesn't specify what nobody is running for. Sure right so in could be vote. Nobody for whatever right you know maybe your classes voting for class president. You know you're in the eighth grade or something right and somebody writes in nobody right and you win. Class President the the eighth grade team Middle School. Well all the government jobs out there. I can't think of a single one that nobody shouldn't do indeed very very nice nobody. Are you like everybody else. When it comes to being creeped out by some of the ads your served up as a result of you know searching urging social media or Google and facebook and all that kind of crap I don't I don't generally have Avenue issue with it. I don't keep a lot of. I don't have an Alexa Browser settings settings that are very restrictive do the incognito mode and I blog brain browser. I don't oh US brave. Okay but I do have some plug INS in my chrome I. I do have an adobe not say. Don't use brave. It's not the browser houser. I usually I use most commonly I do have it and I do use it because as I understand it. That is a chrome offshoot. That has all the blocking stuff built right into it and I got a little better because when it first started it was Kinda Janke on a few things like didn't look right in certain certain websites but I think they've improved it. I I think Probably the the three of us here tonight any way are probably above average Internet nerds when it comes to like you know privacy and your browser or you know how to work around being tracked or eliminate trackers and it doesn't creep me out either to answer your question from my perspective. It's like that's just the way a things are with you know and you can't blame advertisers for wanting to target people that are better prospects right. So there's that But the weird thing is like whenever I noticed the ads that are being fed to me. It's usually because I already went and bought something from a place have you have you had that happen happen. Where like like? There's a place called mono price where I get cables Yup So I go and I order network cables or audio cables or whatever they they sell them dirt cheap and they're actually pretty good quality early and then after I go and I order something for Mono Price I notice. I'm getting ADS Vermont. Oh price everywhere. I go and it's like well. I already bought from you advertisers take. It's not what pisses me off about. That kind of thing is like I bought a twenty eight channels snake and because cable. It's that's a cable for those of you don't no no not an actual snake not eating critters or anything but And then I don't know I paid fifty bucks for it or whatever and then after I buy it I get an ad for like another another one same quality same brand for like forty bucks and I'm like Oh you from different places from a different okay different Provider right so and what I find. The part that creeps me out is that because I'm probably above average when it comes to turn and all the stuff off and you know no having the right plug ins and all that kind of stuff is I generally avoid most of you know this kind of thing where people like. It's like magic right when something happens and they get advertised thing that they've been talking about recently or whatever it happens to me when I'm around other people right and by other people I'm GonNa say like like people who aren't as tech savvy as I am right so say okay Google to their phone. Yes yes so. If I'm amongst a crowd of people say Okay I don't know in a bar and a gathering in a grocery store and a conversation ensues amongst multiple people and you're talking about one subject. Let's say we're talking about. I don't know furniture right and so having this conversation you know got a couple of cocktails emmy met the borrower talking about yeah. I bought a new SOFA from hero. Yeah I like leather or no. No I liked the CARINTHIAN. The in you know Blah Blah Blah. I like postmodern style an island the classical and all this kind of stuff then all of a sudden like within I don't know it could be minutes could could be hours could be days all of a sudden I'm getting bombarded with furniture ads in in the social media and stuff. That's when it gets creepiest when it's when you know that it must have been listening when it was listening to other people listening to me. And somehow they knew still advertise to me even though I've got all my tech stuff. Dial in to prevent that kind of thing from happening phone is not preventing that from happening. Well okay I mean to you yeah. There are some strange strange games. You can play with that sort of thing. There's a guy Performance artists he calls it. Performance performance art and apparently he wanders around his town with a little red wagon full of phones all of which are turns on and causes. Google maps is to think there are traffic jams. Yes and I love this guy. How did he decide to start doing doing that? I don't know I don't know I just. I saw very brief some. It was even mentioned very briefly but I haven't looked looked. Looked him up to to find out more yet. Well I stumbled upon an article that talks about this very thing earlier and this is from uh-huh vox dot com from there recode section. Stop me if you've heard this before you go to a store browse it's wears consider or even to make a purchase. Then you go home only to find a bunch of ads for from that very store or perhaps the very item you bought following you around the internet or maybe you. You have several emails from that store filling your inbox urging you to buy more stuff. How did your offline shopping habits? Make it into your online life. Well it turns out those brick and mortar stores are getting as good at tracking you as their online rivals and it all starts with your obviously obviously through your mobile device that you have on you at all all times including as you walk past or through store businesses can potentially see which of their products you prefer which websites you visit demographic information like your gender your age your location and much more and they have the ability to do some of these things without asking for your consent or telling you what they're doing at all now that's interesting to me that they would would be able to see demographic information about you right Wondering how they gather that is that something like facebook is providing for instance. Where's that coming from facebook? Google we'll because I don't have you know I don't think Google knows my age necessarily like I don't think that that's in there right and I all admitted that information The article does get into how and will l. of course talk about more of that. Coming up You know do you find it creepy when you know you're being advertised to Simply by going and visiting a store four and then you see that Ed has that happened to. Let's talk thoughts. We'll talk about it coming up. Eight fifty five four hundred fifty free. This is free talk live. BITCOIN DOT COM has launched a trading platform at local dump BITCOIN DOT com allowing you to buy or sell bitcoin cash. Ashby a dozens of payment methods. Like Pay Pal then Mo bank deposit remittances or meeting in person with cash. There are no idea requirements to sign up for and use the site and all communications occasions between buyers and sellers are encrypted finally global trading platform. 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That are you know a little bit too on the nose or two quick and we'll talk a bit more about that but first I wanted to terrorist terrorist advertising. I wanted to tell you about a local dot. BITCOIN DOT COM. BITCOIN DOT COM has launched a trading platform at local BITCOIN DOT COM allowing you to buy or sell bitcoin cash via dozens of payment methods like pay pal then Mo bank deposits remittances or meeting in person with cash. There there are no requirements. Let me repeat that there are no ide- requirements to sign up for and use the site and all communications between buyers. There's and sellers are encrypted finally a global trading platform that respects your privacy visit local dot bitcoin dot com to get started trading. bitcoin cash that's local dot. BITCOIN DOT COM. So you know. You're in the the Bitcoin Mall full of stores. Or you can spend all your bitcoin. You're wandering through and it's almost as if there's some creepy person following you around every store you go to watching you. What what stores he going into? He's going into the easy street records. Is he going into. Victoria's secret is he going into radio shack. These are all people we'll go to malls. Yeah maybe more anyway they still have barely. It's a dying business but yes you're right. There are still still physical stores and the stories telling us about is that they're watching you watching you via your phone and here's what you should know before you download a stores APP or log into the free WIFI offered at the mall or any other retail establishment of what you're really opting into when you use free Wifi in the stores mobile apps these days many retailers offer free in store WIFI and shopping APPs which is convenient very convenient and also I you know. I've used the Wi fi at Walmart before. I don't have an unlimited data plan on my phone so I like to Wi fi hops. You know if I'm out and about doing stuff. Yeah what's your Wifi. What's your password? And then whenever never I go to those places again. My phone saves it. Connect life is good. Well in some cases like at Walmart cell phone signal may not even make it through the building building. So that's true. Yeah yes steel building is a great big Faraday cage. Yeah sure enough so free Wifi. It can be convenient way to access the Internet without using your cell phone's data plan. We talked about that depending on your carry a plan. You may be preserving precious resource mobile APPs often offer users users exclusive deals on a business products or allow them to order items before they set foot in the store. Have you guys ever done an APP for a store. Have you ever installed one of those. No not for a store specific not either. I have used in start here in town because I let you order groceries car and so getting to and from the grocery store I had to use like Uber ride or whatever and so I was like Oh yeah ah let's see what they have you know online enough Insta- cart was available here. I was able to get from a variety of grocery stores. And they just deliver your groceries is it. There's a fee of course but it amounted to ten or twelve bucks per trip and so I just do my shopping once a week or so and some person would show up at my door with my groceries and it was pretty great. That seems pretty great. I've never used the service but it's it's tantalizing. I mean at ten or twelve bucks. That's probably less than what you'd pay Cabbie to get you there and back indeed. Yeah I like the first time I tried to go grocery shopping. I did an Uber and Uber is not as popular here as it is in say a big city and so the way like a half hour for the guy you know whoever the next ride and then go to the place and then like Oh. Do you want me to wait for you or no. I'll just get NEWBURGH and that was a bad India because you go shopping and takes half hour and then you gotta wait another half hour for up to take you back and then you know you gotta tip and all that kind of stuff so it definitely was a much more financial economic a better decision for me to do the INSTA- carts so with that but I did get like more ads for stuff using using the instant cart APP on my phone. I found that I was getting advertised. Stuff within the APP itself right store specials and all that kind of stuff which was great because like they see what I'm buying they go. Oh Hey special. This week's now and you might have liked it. Maybe you did but you might not be aware of what you might be giving away when you take. They could vantage of these services by using them. You've also opt to opted into what's called active tracking you know in terms of service. You agreed to probably correct that you didn't really in writing. I know I didn't usually can only access in store Wi fi through what's called a captive portal. This is the page that pops up when you first try to connect usually usually asks you to submit personal information like an email address and I do something like you can just type in. Yeah nobody one-two-three at Hotmail DOT COM. Whatever no offense nobody? Hey I started doing that before. I knew you so blame it on me through. I've done this all your spam although although you could call it premarketing getting right like I was. I was talking about nobody before. Nobody was anybody who are the great thing about being nobody. Nobody has great name recognition through. Nobody's sure ask anybody who speaks English. And they've heard my name and then agreed to terms and conditions before letting you access the Internet so we talked about that thing is when you log into Wifi through businesses captive portal. You aren't just giving the business. Whatever personal information you submitted at the portal page? You're also attaching that information to a set of data. The store collects from you. And you're granting the store permission to use that data in ways you may not realize and if you use the social media profile like facebook spoke to log into the service you may have given the business everything from your full name to your employer etcetera and saw like any of those social media accounts if you log into. I don't don't know when facebook became sort of the passport of the Internet. But I mean that's that's to me is like I don't know why you would ever log into anything using facebook. Well all the reason. Why is because it's convenient for people? I mean they see you go to a new website. It says you will create a new account or do you just want to use your existing facebook or Google legal or whatever and and for most people that works fine until they get banned from facebook. Then what happens. Then how do you get back back into the account that you created on that other website. You don't have credentials anymore right. It's gone. I have no idea what you do because I don't use these things in the same way. Most people do right. I'm very limited about how I actually use and the reason I use it is because they don't get anything from facebook that I wouldn't have to enter onto a forum to get an account on their site anyway so the only the difference is I haven't created a new copy of it I've just given them. What programmers call a pointer to the copy that already existed? And but you don't have as much control over that that's yeah you don't have to kill your account and you can't I would i. I would certainly never use it for anything important important but there are times when they'll ask me to do log in or sign line up and if I can't do it with my facebook account I just feel like it's not worth filling out another form so I think the other thing. Here's I mean. My facebook account is widely published. So you know I mean I run. I run public pages and I've had God I have my facebook account posted on the elect. NOBODY DOT COM website. NOBODY DOT COM. That sounds interesting so so so I guess basically anything that to me anything. That's on facebook. I might as well have painted wanted on the outside of my house. So That's how I regard it and because I regarded as a as most as a purely I by publicly published set of data. I don't worry about who has it but I don't keep the facebook spoke APP on my phone. Good choice so they don't know what stores I'm going to. We're going to talk about more of this and how you know what else goes into this Here on free talk. 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That's offered that business business and then and then cascade that with using facebook to log in any of these types of services and we're just sort of digging into what kind of information does the retailer have on you at that point. Well the thing you have to remember also I was thinking about this over the break. FACEBOOK facebook sells information right. They certainly do so. Why wouldn't they buy information to fill in the blanks? You don't have their APP APP installed but maybe you have somebody else's APP installed well if that information is out with their then it's going to be aggregated into into a database some win and so then it gets published two and then it can and be combined to complete the Datus Complete the database. Right so they build a picture based on smaller pieces of information formation scattered throughout their companies out out there. Although I don't know who they are that that's their business. They buy every bite of data that they can buy and sell it back combined with other data absolutely. Yeah now The article goes on for instance. Your Wifi connection can give stores location information as specific as how much time you spent staring longingly mainly at those shoes you cant afford before giving up and heading for the clearance rack. I don't know about you but luckily they probably don't know if you were thinking if you were staring tearing longingly at them or thinking. Those are the ugliest shoes I've ever seen. I can't believe somebody made shoes like that. which is almost is infinitely improbable if you're male but that's true but fact the fact that you were there for a while does communicate something? Oh yeah there's there's definitely data that could could communicate that you're indecisive about the things you were looking at whether you could afford it or not as another question like if I go go to a grocery store and stand at the end cap. That's one of these displays at the end of the end caps. That's a big giant display of beer. Odds are I'm a fan of beer now now they know that You know or they've done I really crappy job of building their end cap display. And I'm just being a critic right well and and that's one reason I've experimented with not carrying my phone unless I have some reason to or leaving it in the car and I don't have to have my phone on me every moment. Nothing is going to happen. Almost certainly that will require my attention in the next ten minutes as a result of this article. And it'll get into the question that you like. How wow right like how does all of this sort of what's the Lynch Pin and this article will get into sort of the key if you will the the magic bullet if there is one it'll get into it but as a result of me reading this article I'm going to get one of those fair day bags like I'm like yeah? I'm just a little creeped out about it and like turning earning. Your phone doesn't always mean your phone off especially these ones where you can't even take the battery out. It was doing a drug a drug deal back in the day. When I did that sort of thing I would not only turn my phone off off but also take the battery physically out of it Now even that is not completely reliable. Because it's quite it would not be difficult. Technically to have a low power device in the phone recording information so that as soon as you put the battery Gary Back in it can be transmitted and that could be done by a battery. So tiny that you don't know about it or you think it's just a big capacitor on the board right or the phone manufacturer installs a backup battery quote unquote but that still functions as a hard battery even when you pop. Oh Yeah if you have a bad backup backup battery taking taking the battery out won't solve your problem even if you don't it might not solve your problem. of Faraday bag. We'll probably solve solve your problem. I mean you'd need to test it and make sure Out of the only hesitation hesitation day bags a lot. A double is it depends on how much influence the government has had on on technology manufacturers. Because it would not be impossible if your day bag was man was is marginal for the phone to have been programmed to every two days. If it hasn't heard from anybody but it's turned on send an extra extra hive string signal trying to get somebody anybody at least tell the MSA where you are stats. That's that's what scares me. I'm not scared of facebook. Google and I'm not scared of advertising. I'm scared of the government and for good unreason and I want him not paranoia when when they've really already come and gotten you. I want to be very clear that I'm with you on that in and you to like I don't mind signed being advertised to you. Know I don't mind if I agree to something even if I'm the layman who doesn't read the terms and conditions under whatever girls girls girls except except right You know the idea is with anything in the free market you can opt out. Well I've opted in. I can opt out right but I want everybody the our listeners specifically to keep in mind that we talk about here all the information that these stores have on you guess who else can get it because of the stores can get it you know damn well the government can get it and they don't even need a warrant to do so so yeah stores will know which websites you browsed while you were connected to their service and they can install cookies cookies on your browser to track you around the Internet long after you've left the store now. I know you guys probably have the thing. Where when you close your browser deletes all the cookies and that kind of thing? I got got that Privacy Black Badger which is a nice thing which is an extension. What does that too? It shuts down trackers is on websites so it recognized if it doesn't act by having a database of these things that it consults which you can get around if it's keep seeing the same plug in on different sites if it sees it like three times it's like yeah I'm shutting this zing down and so and so that's that's a very nice feature because you don't have to trust them to update a database this so that's that's very handy They can see which sites you're connecting to win and use that information to build a profile about your behavior of Bennett ciphers last name ciphers. Then it's safer as a technologist for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. He must have changed that name. That CAMPA could not possibly Bennett ciphers. Cyp Browsing history can be used to guess at demographics age age income race religion political leaning this data can be used to target ads or sold to data brokers combined with other data streams. So we were talking about that about how other businesses is just sell information. Actually take this information. They buy more information they put it together and they form a bigger picture. Your offline activities in a store or are important to retailers can send that data to services like live ramp to match it with your online identity allowing retailers to place ads for those shoes that you couldn't afford all over the Internet if you're using a businesses mobile APP you're giving it even more information targets APP. Courage as users to provide personal information about themselves like shopping lists and scan item Barcode to see if there's any deal so it's a whole bunch of information that you're you're giving away that could be accessed by people you don't want it to be accessed by but it could get better deals certainly good more coming up. Free Talk Live eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom. FREETALKLIVE DOT COM. 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From the case of Virginia Grevy versus Ghyslaine Maxwell the socialites attorneys argue for a cash communications in the case to remain sealed. Her attorneys have said that there were serious. Mistakes including insufficient reactions in the August document released New York Saint Forces citizens to pay for stargazing permit to the united sky and public parks. That's according to activist post light. Pollution across the state of New York. Makes it hard for folks in highly populated areas to view the night sky. So those who wish nice to gaze upon the stars at night have to drive many miles away to remote areas. Many of the remote areas are located in taxpayer. Funded say parks in their efforts to squeeze every dime they can tax form. Bureaucrats in New York have devised a scheme to extort citizens who wish to use public parks to gaze upon the night sky. The the extortion comes in the form of a thirty five dollar stargazing permit. 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