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Interview With Sam Querrey And Eric Hutchinson
"Jon Wertheim here, and it's this week's. Illustrated Tennis podcast, we have two guests this week, a bonus guest in mainstream tennis player guest I. Am Query joins us. He is at the Greenbrier in West Virginia where he was laying world team tennis, and then as he will explain, is ready to embark on a full season starting in August, and we talked to him about what it's been like in the tennis bubble what his plans are for the rest of the season and sort of what the impact of this crazy and cratered year has been on a on a player of his status, his age. then. We have Eric Hutchinson. He's been on the show before Eric is a friend of big. Band of tennis and we talk a bit about what it's like to be a solo performer solar artists in the time of Cova probably not dissimilar to being a singles player. Eric has a new album class of one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight. So we talk a bit about the process a bit about this sort of enforced break that we are all on. What the overlaps between music and tennis. All right now and some tennis chatter with a big tennis fan. So Sam Corey versed Haircut Simpson's second. Let's start in. West. Virginia. You're. In the bubble. I am. Tennis bubble. Let's let's start the president as a been. IT'S BEEN AWESOME You know for me I hadn't told a match in. Australian Open because my wife had a baby in February also I mean it's been five months. So I was excited to go I think all the players here are are really loving it and it's fine and we're finally back plans some competition and it's been great i. mean the I've never I don't know if you've ever been here. I. Know I haven't most you'll have in, but the resort is awesome So it is a bubble but at the same time you can there's golf fishing a bunch of restaurants you can go. You know skeet shooting eighteen. So you're you don't feel like you're just you're playing tennis and going back to your room. There's so much to do outside tennis, which is really made it fun for everyone because we are here for for three full weeks. And it's great to be back in absolute competition and. Going to court I mean it's going great so far. Some sounds like summer camp widsom competitive tennis thrown in. That's exactly what it feels like especially 'cause you're you're in the mountains that it's got a very, very much camp field. We're we're only doing this audio. I have to say you're your backdrop is tremendous. It looks like I mean you can kind of see like. Beautiful. No it's. It's this part of the I've never been here like I said it's I mean we went ATV and a few days ago, and you go up in the mountains in the views and. I. Spectacular. Doesn't sound like a bad way to spend July. What's been the? What about sort of the training, the nutrition, the hydration everything that comes with competitive playing how have you been able to deal with? With that. I, mean for me personally that's been that's been tough. The last like months to find the motivation for practice knowing or not knowing when we're GONNA. Start. You know you're kind of always like like apprenticed for like, wow not studying for I'll just as the next day and then I do the next day. So you know the last two months I haven't practicing hard but there's there's a practice shape and there's match shape. It's hard to really get back into your match shape until you play match. So. I'm doing the best. I can I've got Christian Cossio who travels with me as like a physio here with me. So we've been in the gym every day and working on my body. So physically actually feel fine because you know the team that I'm on I'm only playing singles every day. So I've literally got a thirty minute sets of five. And that's all the tennis I'm playing. So off days and even some matchdays I'm finding the other guys have updates in in an extra and extra practice and spending time in the gym and trying to make the most of it won't here. What's the level play? Overall? It's been high I. Mean I've played tennis twenty years because of the incentives this year online means finals, winters, It's intense. The teams are into it i. mean every you really feel like everyone's kind of laying it out there and It's made it better. You know I it's fun of the past but these incentives, I, it's it's up the level and there's a few more come on. There's a the teams kind of gathering around over a little bit more. So it's it's been really fun and I hope they continue to do is incentives can. Stays at this level. Yeah. I mean I was GONNA. Say, this is an interesting. You're a world team tennis veteran. This is unlike any other season you've had you just. League can. Use this crazy. This crazy three weeks as a springboard. I hope. So I. Mean Look at Fred Leading Eric Davidson behind it and they love tennis and You know they seem to have the financial backing to help move it forward in a good direction and Like the nave because of what happened, I mean the level and the talent they have this year is like no other year they've had world tanks. See this type of caliber players for a full season. So hopefully I mean I everyone that plays this year know especially those top players are GonNa say oh. My God this has been fun like this has been a great. Few weeks of practice, it's fun to be on a team and hopefully for the years moving forward, they're going to those top players GonNa WanNa do it again. Give, give us your your like top top four players of the season. If you're writing in your MVP, votes would be Gosh I would have to look at kind of like the the win loss record. you know Bethany Matic Santa's up there because she's just it seems like every mixed doubles in every doubles cheese. You know winning most of those. Sets. closers was up there until she got her she was just on fire. So I'm still GONNA put closers in the mix and then. Not so I'M GONNA try to I'm trying to think of a guy that's. been somewhat dominant. I can't tell I. Don't know I would need to look at like. He's been winning losing.
World TeamTennis CEO Carlos Silva
"Jon Wertheim here. Sports illustrated tennis podcast. Let us start by pausing for a second of silence to acknowledge that this ought to be the second week of Wimbledon one of the great pinnacles of the tennis calendar. We'll have to wait till next year, but meanwhile we have a good podcast this week. Our guest is Carlos, Silva Carlos as the CEO of World Team Tennis, which has perhaps you know we'll have a twenty twenty season a little bit different, but there will be a series of sixty three matches from July twelfth to August first at the greenbrier. The resort in West Virginia where all the players and all the teams will effectively be bubbled This is tennis's version of. Of what we're seeing, the NBA and this is a a prelude of sorts to the twenty twenty us open but world team. Tennis persists Carlos. Talks about where how and when you can see the matches, but they will be televised on a variety of networks and platforms, and World Team tennis stalwart in the sports since the early seventies will persist, so we talk with Carl's about world team tennis about staging an event amid corona where his league fits into this crazy mosaic, we call tennis and his experience with the sport as well as a former player so good conversation with a guy I've known for for a while. Here's Carlos Silva. Doing Oria I'm good I'm good. Things are good. Where are you? Where are we getting you? I'm in I live in Potomac outside of DC our. Okay so you're you're not far from. The greenbrier of these things go yet now I've been. I've been a few times over the last of the last few weeks, so yeah, it's like it's like three and a half hours from Dallas. All right, so you can, you can You can drive that. So! Yeah, let's start there I feel like. Talking about TV shows like a succession or Ozark but tell us about season forty five. What are we expecting a year? So. I mean as you know we. We have nine teams in season forty five. We had a new expansion team in Chicago there. Unfortunately, not comply in Chicago. Sloan Stevens is anchoring that team along with her coach out Murray. and. And so yeah, we're bringing everybody. We looked at a lot of different states John in Texas Florida. Nevada California, but But West? Virginia felt good It still feels good in the grand scheme of things was based on everything. That's happening, so we're out. We're bringing all night teams the Greenbrier, but we're GONNA. Play a complete season, and so the season will still be fourteen regular season, seven home and seven away. If you will, which will really only consists of. You, know whatever jersey, they're wearing that day home or away. On one court right at the writing a great low stadium that the Greenbrier Scott. I was GONNA. Say I. Commend You on a not picking Florida California. Texas Arizona, you. you picked well. I guess I think other sports are going to be looking at this as a real sort of. Canary in the coalmine to use the West Virginia and. Nobody I think whether it's dope, it or whether it's the Orlando in this NBA bubble. Do you feel pressured to sort of do this? Right for world team, but also I. Suspect a lot of other sports. Outlets are going to be looking at this. Yes we feel pressure? I mean in an I. Think you're right I. Don't think it's just tennis. I think it's sport. You know all of us. I mean the one thing you may have found it to John. I've found that over the last three months. Everyone's been very collegial in. In a weather we're on white. House calls whether we were all together. I mean I talked to Jay Monahan you know about a month ago before before their season started because they were GonNa go to tech says, and he gave me some great feedback on what they were doing with testing, and so yeah, we do we. We're We're trying to be very diligent and we're also trying every day to make sure that what we're doing. We're still analyzing it every. Every day, no as I told my team and we've told the players you know until August second when someone raises the King Trophy we gotta be diligent every day, so we've. We've even made a few adjustments as you know we're. We're going to have five up to five hundred fans in the stadium right halls, twenty, five hundred, and originally those fans were only required to have a temperature check, but about five days ago before everything a little bit. A little crazy over last five days we decided that we would add masks in for the fans as well and so all all. All the fans will also have mass in the stadium. And you know with the way we thought about that as you can always take the masks down at feel better, but better to be a little safer so Yeah, there's there's definitely a low pressure. I think we're up forward and I think we're going to show everyone how how we can be safe and be. Operationally smart every day. It's a five hundred fans as of today is the number you're working with. It is yeah. Yeah, and what? We got I don't know if you've ever been to that stadium, but it's a great little Horseshoe Horseshoe stadium around the court with a lower bowl at an upper bowl, and so the you'll either by a lower bowl, general admission, ticket or bowl, general admission ticket, and then every other rose blocked, and then the Oscars will social distance. Distance when you come into the stadium, so if you came John with your family, you'd be able to sit with your family. But if I came with my family, we'd sit together but I wouldn't be able to sit next to your family. We'd be six feet away and so and so that that works and we'd. We'd all at mass in the in the stance.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Darren Smith Show
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"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Darren Smith Show
"And then we realized well at Wrigley Field Fans are closer to the field, and they aren't any other ballpark in the majors. So you know I, think these fans when when they say you sock, and they boop players, and they get away the stupid sticks when you shoot free throws, it doesn't have much impact, but the fans yelling at the refs have a lot of impact and again some of the some this come down because of replay. It's interesting that when. Calls get overturned. The majority of them are overturned in favor of the road team. So the officials in the absence of replay would have made the wrong call favoring the home team. but yeah, I mean again. I think it's important to stress these are. Behavioral biases that you have an I have these. This is not corrupt officiating, but you know these these referees are human, and we were told that in the past two years a lot of times in the training they even give refs to special training to be aware of bias, but. Again. You've got to make a split-second block versus charge and twenty thousand basketball fans are all hoping you call it one way. It's hard to blacked out, so the. Bathrooms. Politics over there certain sports that that. Were you saw more of this I mean. We're certain sports for whatever reason you mentioned. A little bit about Wrigley talked a little bit about some of those European soccer stadiums where you have an Olympic track around it, which keeps the fans a little bit further back, but were there certain sports specifically that we're more susceptible to this type of bias than other sports? I mean I would think NBA. Because there's almost a call on every play, but then again in baseball, you also have a strike zone. What sports were most susceptible to this type of referee bias? Yeah those were two of the big ones I mean there were NBA seasons. You know I think we're talking like. The Allen had my research in front of me, but they were NBA seasons when the row team was winning like twenty five percent of the time. So basketball had a hugh. It's again. It's come down a bit since we've had some ability to to review calls. Basketball very high I think baseball was a little lower for a variety of reasons, one of them is just the bigger sample size one of them as a one hundred sixty two games. Inevitably you're you're gonNA take a few games off but again the other thing we found was that like. Baseball has the almost to the to the decimal point, the same homefield advantage as US baseball, the WNBA's homecourt percentage is almost exactly the same as the NBA's, so it's consistent across sport, but every sport is very consistent within itself, and you know again I mean we're you know we should probably know the the the NFL. Has Gone way down. We're coming off a world series where the road team won all seven games I think, didn't they? that's right between. Yeah, the extras and the nationals. We've got a seven game winning streak in baseball of of road team winning so I think this is all coming down a little bit. What would you suspect and last thing again?.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Darren Smith Show
"Year's revenues I mean there was like a single ticket. They're not gonNA sell a single tweet They've got the TV money in the prize money. Is GonNa? Be Ninety five percent of what it is last year, so part of it is that tells you what kind of TV money is being paid? And what's the profit margins are and even though the players side is obviously we're not get half the revenue the way NBA. Players are, but the US Open is going to take a bath this year and the players are only gonNA. Take a five percent haircut, so you know they're they. They ought to be very happy right now. Wow Yeah. Teach your kids how to be tennis players everybody out there Jon Wertheim aside dot Com sl now. CBS News Sixty minutes joining us on extra thirteen sixty. I John so I've I've heard a lot about these plans for some of the sports. Being played without fans talked a little bit about it just now with regards to the US Open. We're hearing about the NBA going into a bubble. We're hearing about Major. Major League. Baseball football is still a couple of months away, but who knows and I always remembered the chapter that you and toby wrote about homefield advantage, and what it means, and what your conclusions were and I started seeing some of the data coming from the Bundesliga the German Soccer League guess what Home Field Advantage doesn't really seem to matter all that much early on, although we're only but a month in. and I wonder if it made me think about your book I wonder if you started thinking about some of the research that you guys used for the chapter in score casting as it related to Homefield home court advantage. Yeah absolutely I mean just kind of backing up homefield advantage, home-ice Homecourt, no myth I mean it exists. It's been remarkably constant through time. It exists in every sport all over the world. I mean there are sports where cumulatively the home team has always every single season one more games on the road team, so it's it's a thing it's definitely and then the question is laureate will. Why does it exist and we looked at a number of different options right so it's you play better when you're sleeping your own bed and you're you have the comforts of home, but that that didn't really pan out in the. Things like free throw shooting are almost exactly the same home versus road quarterback ratings, the same home versus road. If anything quarterbacks are a little better on the road, there's very little to suggest performance drops You know we looked at things? Like well, it's it's the rigors of travel and you're taking red. Is You know I? Mean we know first of all the travel now is pretty luxurious, and also it's not like the winning percentage was any different. When say the jets played the giants than when they traveled to Seattle or San? So the length of the trip didn't really impact the home field advantage, so we thought that probably wasn't the explanation and you know we looked at the. To the Ballpark, but that that didn't really pan out in basically what we came to was. There is a huge discrepancy. Between Home Calls in Rhode Calls in close calls on the road and red cards and yellow cards in soccer and blocks versus charges and it. It's interesting I. Mean you mentioned this was the almost ten years ago?.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Darren Smith Show
"Dan I know we were just joking about Mardi, reading baseball cards or having baseball cards I still have a hard cover book. The name of the book is score casting the hidden influences behind how sports are played and Games are one. There's chapter in here specifically. About homefield advantage, and about how vocal fans matter, but not in the way that you think. And I always remember this and I always reference this anytime. We see a situation where a home team home cooking are rough swallows the whistle in a certain situation. I always think about a particular chapter in this book that explains Homefield. Homecourt home ice advantage because I'd never really heard. Explain this way and Jon. Wertheim, who is with sixty minutes? WHO's with the tennis channel WHO's with Si now who you can find on twitter at John J. O. N. underscore wartime collaborated on this book with Toby. Moskowitz we had him on radio row in Dallas I. Remember it very vividly. He joins us on extra thirteen sixty. John Darren Smith in San. Diego, thank you very much for your time. Pleasure you, sir, have a memory I I don't remember what I had for lunch. Can we talk about Tim Flannery and Marty's baseball cards? The Union recollections better than mine, but pleasure pleasure to be here. Well we can definitely talk Tim flannery since we worked with Tim Flannery for a couple of years on the radio, so we can definitely dive into that and the Brown uniforms making a comeback, etc, John Before. We jump into any of that. You know you are with the tennis channel now. We saw news today from the governor of the state of New York announcing that the US Open. It will go on. We understand that all plans are tentative. During a pandemic tells a little bit about what you think. Tennis might look like or at least what the plan would be for tennis here between now and the end of the calendar. Man Yeah, there will be no home court advantage. It's weird, though because tennis actually in some ways it's great for this. Arab for social distancing. You know you're you're yards and yards apart and there's there's no net and big deal you don't you? Don't shake hands on the matches over. So some ways tennis sort of is Cova friendly. At least socially, the problem is that tennis is a global sport and players are coming from all over the world, and they're sharing locker rooms, and they bring entourage's and things get crowded in, so tennis is really sort of struggling. There haven't been any matches since the first week of March today. As you say, we have an announcement that the US Open will go on no fans. Fans, but it's it's happening. It's going to be really weird. The players are all going to be staying at the same airport hotel. We hear the apparently there may be some carve-outs. It's going to be really things which players decide to play in which don't, but you know for example there they don't want everyone the same locker room so the US Open..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on No Challenges Remaining
"You know Venus Venus Place Arena and then wins Wimbledon with her dad jumping on the commentary booth holding up a sign thing. I told you so and we were in the whole time. You had Cornucopia you have. I mean there was enough going on outside the majors. Well the federal the Federal Dahl. What became strokes of genius that that I worried about halfway through saying. I think I am at my advanced. We don't have a book here I think with the publisher I think was as much interested in the whole sort of fishbowl. Yeah all the whole Tiger King. I keep going back to you exchange references. What what do you looking back? You mentioned corker looking back on Corn Cova twenty years later. What do you make of that whole phenomenon of just how she was covered the whole machine that you know looking back on? I mean I think. Espn page to that. All website essentially invented just for Kournikova. You know just talk about her more like she was the ultimate sort of side show in the sport and nothing has come close to her. Since then I don't think in even people talk about Bouchard Sharipova. But I don't think Cornucopia was sort of reading about the amount of oxygen. She took up at that. Time was was pretty remarkable. I'm just curious what you make of it. Twenty years later was revolutionary. Was it embarrassing at some all the above? Or what do you make a Cornucopia as a phenomenon and as a player I guess also but most phenomenon now. It's a great question because I think within tennis the answer would be very different and I think she's obviously known. If you ask casual fans what are they know? Well she was pretty and she never won anything. Yeah it Tennessee. Say this extraordinarily talented player. One of the reasons. She didn't win anything because she was so popular. She couldn't play these rinky-dink events. I mean I think that was something that became clear to me in some ways. She was really a victim of her own success. She was a great tennis player. I mean go back and look at some of her wins go back and look at her doubles record. The only reason she didn't win a title is because she was so popular the WTO wouldn't allow her to go. Play the equivalent of two fifties. And I I think history will remember quite well. I mean I remember just covering tennis like you've got. How many players have we come across? Who were inspired by her? And I don't I mean spent Lonzo would tell you. Obama had more influence on her than any other player. I think a lot of people benefited including Maria. I think a lot of people benefited from some of her errors. I mean I think a lot of people learn from her missteps you know. There's a reason why cocoa golf is playing small events in you know winning and lince. They don't the subject to the pressure of never having won anything and it's all hype I think At at the time I think you're right. I mean Boo Shard is as close as we can get and it's nothing like that. I remember there was an event in San Diego in these these frat boys who knew nothing about tennis I mean. They didn't know how to keep score. They had no idea what they were watching. They all written on. Everyone got a letter and it's spelled out Anna Mania or something like that on their chests I mean the the level of Of interest was was really quite something and I think it's. It's a pity that she didn't win. A stupid title because I think it would have changed things now within tennis but I think sort of the the common narrative but I don't know I mean some level it it traced. He's broader feminist issues. Right I mean this is essentially. She was the the great feminists debate about sex workers. Right if it or God bless her. This is capitalism. And it's empowering to monetize your sex appeal. Yeah I well what are what are you what are you? GonNa. I was GONNA say on the title thing. I think I've said this before. I think maybe not on the show but like it was one of the most underrated important events of the last decade. Dennis for her was Eugenie Bouchard Winning Nuremberg. Which is a complete non event really in her career and it was like honestly not a top five accomplishment in her career for anyone who knows a sport but it made that monkey get off her back but never winning a title. I still her only title. But you know she. Wimbledon final two grandsons semifinals before that. But it's just winning Nuremberg. This dinky. You know I've been at number twelve late. Smells AT PINE? It's great but the week before the French Open not a toughie. But it gives you that sort of no longer cornucopia thing and you're right about Coca Golf. You know golf winning Lynn's makes alright not the stigma like she already. Has that trophy photo? Credibility an insane. Way With like Serena like three and a the most celebrated she was during her whole maternity. Comeback was for winning Auckland. Probably that was her moment of Purist Riot Vegas even though it does. It pales in comparison to making four grand finals. So you know I I. I think it's sort of arbitrary metric that people use to pick on Cornucopia. People were eager to rip Cornucopia for sure. Yeah and I think that what you said John is right. Which is that you know if you look back at the history of women's tennis in especially obviously in the open era but like you know you have Chris Everett in like seventies and eighties being. I mean she was on. Snl She was. You know. I mean people really don't under the the children don't understand how big of a deal Chris. Everett was and how much she changed a lot of the perception of women's tennis of the WPA girl next door pretty all these sorts of things And all that and then and in a lot of ways like her sex appeal her girl that whole thing was marketed. In during that time it was no one really bat an eye about it. It was just like that's how you sell women's sport. That's how you know whatever then Cornucopia comes along and I think that's when at that time right is when we start reckoning with it and being like wait hold on like you know second wave or third wave feminism whatever it is of like is this okay and should you be using this as your marketing campaign and you should you be criticized. Should she be criticized for using her sex appeal when she's fully in control? I mean on a was never seemed to be exploited. She she had agency one hundred percent And then you flash forward to now and that continues to be a debate. I think that happens. I think when people talk about how did the W. T. A. is marketed? How players to market themselves. And I think that in a Lotta ways like if you take like right now for example like the top ten and you look at them and you see oh my gosh. There are also different and some of them want nothing to do with it. Like that scene of You're describing of Lindsey muttering under her breath In in the boat down the Yarra all I could think was ashby. Like if asked wins ause like that's going to be ash fine like you know and just heat. It Kenan loved it but can in love dead and Jeannie wants to do all those sorts of things. Like Carla does not. I mean it's okay and but it's funny because you know twenty years on. I don't know if people have reconciled the CORNUCOPIA problem honestly I feel like people still struggle with it. Oh completely and I think you`ll. You'll still find you know you'll find veteran players tough tough skin. You'll find other people who say boy you know use whatever use whatever you have I didn't have much report. All with Cornucopia during this book. I think she was very sceptical when she she was ahead of the curve in terms of sort of media management. And you know you go call up Venus and she would tell you. She was making her Halloween costume. Kinda report with Cornucopia but I you know it's funny I di. She's really retreat. You guys know this but you have real retreated from the scene. I mean you never. She might play an event here and there in in it's never in the US and you know she's moved on from tennis. And I think feels a little bit burned by it but I did a piece for sports illustrated and like me. I don't know maybe two thousand ten and as she was awesome and be she. I gave her every opportunity to sort of blame the system and blame the machine and she basically said you know I cash the checks. It's on me and she really got it and I think she. She admitted if there was something. Yeah I would. I would have done things differently but there was no model for this. I mean you mentioned Chrissy and her sex appeal but you know look look at Cornucopia does And people can have fun with the Google machine but you know what I mean. Honestly like sports have clean hands. Either I mean you going through rolling stone photo shoot shoot about sixteen years old and there was a sports illustrated. Cover that I think. In retrospect is probably one of those things we all regret. There really wasn't much of a precedent. I mean this this. This was feminism. Like eight point compared to With using sex appeal and it's opinion to me the corner. Cove is not a bigger part of the tennis. Firmament I mean you know she hall of Famer probably no but she should have some sort of profile. I think the sport does her a debt But she's just not I I I don't think necessarily interested and I I don't know sort of where things stand but I think when they tell the his when they tell the history of tennis a I think she's going to Be Very underrated. I think she's GonNa come in for a lot of credit and I. I think people are going to regret how she was characterized as as as a teenager. Who was you know she? She was so big. They basically wouldn't let her play a Rinky-dink Dicky events as you could get stupid title. I've tried reaching out to a couple of times in the last thing. I wanted to do. Something on her twentieth anniversary of her Wimbledon. Run or something which the Semis. When was sixteen? Which again is another great breakout feat? That people sort of loss over now she was. Her agent was basically saying denying everything she you know. She's had a couple of kids recently. Just sort settling into home life with her very long relationship now with the Ricky glitziest. So I mean that's the celebrity parent that has had surprising durability. That's one thing that's funny. Just going off of the Iglesias think because reading the book I just kind of kept laughing about how high profile these celebrity pairings were with these players like setting aside like Gurion fedor off Kournikova and whatever but Roberto Oh being involved in in in the book Yeah just all of the name and I just kind of looking at the current landscape of the door and it's like yeah like we had one last high. Yeah exactly I mean is red food last high profile like like dating like what about slowly. Sloan and Josie Yeah for sure like Naomi and courtenay. Yeah it just it felt. Maybe because I was of that time as well like these. The names felt so much bigger. Like you know just the electricity. I suppose no yeah right. I mean it's interesting to you at the I mean again like I feel like I do a time stamp. Everything pre social media. But you also I mean it's really interesting to me Do the fleeting celebrity. I mean re- red foods are good example from more recent times but someone who seems like a really big star in you know in in the year two thousand that never mind twenty twenty five years later. It's like who is that again but no when no I mean again. This book was a Was a learning experience. A lot of things I would probably do differently. Would you recommend I'm just curious to somebody who's thought about this idea for a book and having you think really only time you've done it this way but would you recommend sort of year on tour type format to somebody thinking about writing a book or is it. Did you get lucky is it? Is it good? Is it convenient? Or how do you do with that format that you were? You do a great job. Obviously you know taking the Australia chapter to go into Lindsey in the French. Open Mary Pierce. And you find the convenient tangent as they worked but do you think it's because you have to plan for an advance. I'm just curious if you think it's a good way to go about writing booker or not as a structure I mean. It's it's probably not the freshest approach but I do think there's something just sort of from a narrative standpoint with a beginning a middle and end yeah. I think it's effective. I think you guys would have had on you. Set yourself up for hey the the French Open the nevermind corona virus and the the French Open has yielded Al Kosta against Juan Carlos. Ferreira in here. I was trying to write about Sampras Agassi I think there's a certain danger that goes to it but I also think it's sort of a tried and true sportsbook conceit and I suppose In in the sense that we we all start freshen there's I mean it does sort of trace the same arc of of narrative I would encourage someone..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Capital Allocators
"I think it's definitely a continuing within tennis. Yeah. At what point in time as you're covering sports. Did you start diving into behavior? Analytics? I always liked sports. I was never a hard hardcore sports fan. I mean, people are always disappointed when they come up to me, and they hear what I do. And they say who should I draft in my rotisserie league or who should I my fantasy picks? And were you surprised that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers pick? So, and so in the second round and I sort of have to either fake it or just confess that I like sports. I don't live sports onto me. Always was interesting. It's sports is I think I told a ball, I like sports, and so- sports, and economic sports, and the law, sports and psychology. So I think from the beginning, I never had to really cover upbeat. So I was never the guy who went to a hundred baseball games a year or only did the NFL. I always was sort of a generalist, and I always tried to write and watch sports with a plus one and it always more about the game and more than the athlete. I think I had the good fortune that I never had to be the NFL guy or the college football guy. So I think pretty early the games are interesting and sometimes are very dramatic, and sometimes they're not in the athletes can be very interesting. And sometimes it can be very boring. But really from the beginning again, especially since I was sort of hired under the guise of covering sports on the law. It was always about more than the game that sounds really trite. But no, I think early on doing this job. It was always about what can sports explain beyond what everyone can see reading a box score in the books that you've written are there, a couple of either stories and research that. You've done or lessons that really stick in your mind is kind of the most interesting ones that you found. Yeah. I mean, I guess it varies from book to book some books, I've done for different reasons and sometimes I wrote a book about pool hustling, which is probably has fewer lessons air. Lease practically speaking than score casting. The feminine doll book. You mentioned as always stuck with me, especially now, I think it's a specially resonant that these guys, Roger Federer Rafael probably greatest rivalry in the history of men's tennis. They'll probably if they retired tomorrow would probably rank one two is the best players of all time. They're completely different. They came to tennis differently. They play differently lefty. It's righty. It's western Europe and my orca. I mean, there are one hundred contrast but at the end of the day, they're really a lot of similarities and one of the rare rivalries, where it seems totally normal to root for both them, you would say I like Harvard and Yale or I think max and PC's or both awesome. You pick your tribe, and it says something about you, and you don't budge and you build a case for you and against the other guy with federal dollars completely normal to like both of them. And I think one of the reasons of the very early on they recognize that rivalry ultimately benefits, both of them and Nidal may deprive me of a few titles, and federal may deprive me of a few titles. But ultimately, I'm better off for having the sky in my life, and they've shown that you can compete against someone and have a rival, and you can compete fiercely. You can really really want to beat that guy, but he doesn't have to be an enemy. And, but obviously taken on perhaps a significant amount of resonance lately, where it doesn't seem like you have a lot of instances of that. But I think the fact that you can have this rivalry but also respect. The guy be friends with a guy in even genuinely appreciate that he exists. That's something that stuck with me. I mean you mentioned score casting and the book I did subsequent to that your brain on sports. I mean that's. There are different kinds of lessons..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Capital Allocators
"I went to law school took a year off went to law school, which was sort of a path of least resistance move. You know, you're twenty two years old. You're not quite sure what to do. Well, wall schools, always safe. I'd love law school. I met my wife in law school. I, I was in at Penn in Philly and Elizabeth Warren was on the faculty is a great time. I just had no interest in being a lawyer. And I worked one summer in a law firm and have never looked at my watch clock. Watching is not just a metaphorical term. And I just said, boy, I got to figure out another game plan I can't do this for the next forty years. And I lucked into an internship at Sports Illustrated. They needed someone who had a legal background. This was. After Mike Tyson, and this was nineteen Ninety-six. I think they had come to this realization that sports in the law was going to be a increasingly busy intersection, wouldn't it be cool, if we had someone who knew the difference between a charge and conviction and knew how to get papers at a courthouse. So I started as a legal intern. And this was the tail end of the golden age of magazine Sports Illustrated was his high flying entity that took the staff to Atlanta on private planes and had these crazy retreats and Sports Illustrated, essentially paid for my last year of law school on the condition that I worked there when I graduated. So it worked out, great by finish law school took the bar on a Friday. And I think that next Monday, I started at Sports Illustrated in hard to believe in this day and age in this media environment by still there. And I've sort of been able to again as media's changed so much one of the night. Nicer changes is that things have really opened up in terms of moonlighting and freelancing and working elsewhere. And when I started if you wanted to do an NPR interview you would have to jump through hoops and get signed approval from a manager's manager. And now I think there's much more of an acknowledgement and a reasonable policies as long as something isn't directly conflicting. It probably helps all of us if you branch out. So I've been here, we're doing this interview at my office at sixty minutes, I've been here for a few years, and I do work for tennis channel, and write books and sort of have a number of proverbial. It's a diversified portfolio. You might say. Well, let's dive in a little on sports, and then we'll turn to kind of that intersection of sports and business. I thought of reaching out after watching the documentary strokes genius, and I know you've been writing about tennis forever and the one question I wanted to start with, was what nuances do you understand about tennis, having followed it and traveled with it for a long time as you have that someone who enjoys it and watches, it on television, wouldn't quite understand, tennis is sort of I always say it's my guilty pleasure. But I really have a fun nece for tennis. I cover a number of sports. I mean obviously tennis is not covering the NFL it's not going to get you the biggest following. It's not going to draw the ratings of the NBA or the NFL called football. But I think tennis is just an extraordinary sport. I'm really drawn to individual sports. I also like cage fighting UFC don't tell my wife, but people say, how can you like tennis, which is? At least notionally image wise. This elegant upper-crust board. How can you like cage fighting and to me, the similarities event, diagram is significant that there are a lot of similarities. So I think the individual nature of tennis is really special even boxing, every three minutes, you get someone to give you instructions and give you encourage men and give you water mean tennis. You're totally out there by yourself. It's men. It's women. It's teenagers. It's Roger Federer is a thirty seven year old father of four and he'll very easily be playing against an eighteen year old and Serena Williams, upbringing is completely different from Rafeal on the dolls upbringing. And everyone approaches the sport differently..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Sports Wars
"Two in the world millions of dollars prime of their careers. And they're both looking at each other like holy shit. Is this awkward? Yeah. But also, you had the sense of like were not going to get to this point. Right. So you had these two rivals and the two older ones are having this very awkward are fighting. Yeah, right. Yeah. Not in front of the kids, but fetter dollar looking at each other. And some of it is just how awkward is this? But you really felt as warped between them like we get this, and this is not going to be us. I always thought that was a very poignant moments way. Yeah, it was fascinating and sort of round this out, just because you've. Entered a couple times the match ends the two thousand eight Wimbledon final match ends in virtual darkness. There's light but not a lot of light. And you mentioned that they were basically one game away if they stayed on serve possibly postponing till the following day delaying till the following day. Should they have done it earlier in this moment, I, I was speaking to my dad earlier. So shutout Richard Rubenstein eleven years later. He said he's still holds a grudge. He's still bitter that they didn't delay until the next day because they were playing in darkness. And that's not the way a match of this magnitude should end the federal loyalists will say this happens to be a federal list. Yeah. TV is a big player in this. I, I think it would be very anti climactic to say, like you're right. Yeah. Great great day guys, there was a women final. It wasn't discontinued. They started the match on Monday. And it was fine. And it was a people's people's day. This was, what was I should know this off the top of my in two thousand one okay? Rafter even ISA vich. And it's it was rowdy. The security guys didn't all show out, and I think they were just some of it was just dramatic and sense of vacation, you had finish and it had end in darkness. Right. But I just think logistically, I mean, people had plays the catch and NBC had a window who knows where this would have aired just it would have been really awkward to say, guys, it's, you know, it's seven I'll come back, and let's a wrap this thing I may only take fifteen minutes. But come back Monday morning. You can't do that. You know, it's like the vendors telling everyone to come back for the last ten minutes. So after that match there was a couple of great CEO. It's, it's pitch dark right? And literally people have these phones on their cameras and flashlights on their phone. It's funny. I mean, it's, it's only ten years ago. Yeah. Literally NBC's cameras were the source of light, but federal doll, one point two victory lap together, and they slap five when it's over. But. Then the doll camp said one thing that Nidal said is boy, I hope Roger is. Okay. And I think some of that wasn't a doll genuinely feeling concern. I mean this is is right. Boy, but this is also kind of his co-pilot like he's sort of said, listen, I, I got nothing without Roger. This is pushes me to be better. So I think some of it was general sort of genuine solicitude for Roger is he okay boy, it must have been crushing. He's the five time champion now he loses. But I think the doll also thought to himself. Holy shit. I hope this isn't the knockout blow. I need this guy. I need him to be Roger Federer. So I think the doll was a little concerned that I beat this guy at the French Open. Now, I've been Wimbledon. Is this gonna be it is he really crushed fetters they're crying? And I think the doll part of him said holy shit. I need this guy. I care for him individually. But I also feel like I need this guy to be healthy and robust for my own sake, and you hear McEnroe talk about that with Borg. When Borg retires sort of out of nowhere that McEnroe's calling them up saying, we need. I need you need sporting easy, like I need somebody to push me. And so it's interesting that dynamic, and I say, you know, now, here we are in Rogers thirty seven the dolls could be thirty three and I think it's no coincidence. Everyone how it's amazing that they're still playing so long the both of them and I'm thinking, yeah, but I don't think that's coincidence. I mean, if there's no if there's no Rafa is federal hanging around like this, there's no Roger in twenty majors.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Sports Wars
"Back and win that match. I think is one of the more underrated. I mean, there are a lot of sort of little story lines in this match that have gotten loss. I think that's one of them. Sports wars is brought to you by ADT. What does real protection mean for you? I can tell you that with AT the most trusted name in home security. You can get all of the latest innovation and smart home security combined with twenty four seven monitoring with AT. You can get a system custom designed to fit your home with everything from video doorbells to indoor and outdoor cameras to smart locks and lights and a team of professionals will design and install it for you. And you can control all of it through the ADT go app or the sound of your voice, and it doesn't stop there. Get professionally monitored carbon monoxide and smoke detectors, get safety on the go in the car or when your kids are at school. And with ADT eighteen thousand employees safeguard you there, even connected with first responders, visit ADT dot com slash podcast to learn more about how eighty. Can design and install secure smart home just for you ADT real protection? If you're looking to build a website, but you've been putting it off. Maybe you don't know where to start or think it's going to be outrageously expensive. It's time you got to know wicks dot com with wicks you can create a stunning professional website all by yourself. Just ask the over one hundred and forty million people who've already done it. You can build your website from scratch or choose from over five hundred templates that.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Sports Wars
"From wondering, I'm Dan Rubenstein, and this is sports wars. For the last four episodes. We've been exploring the incredible back and forth between Roger Federer the man with the most grand slam crowns in men's tennis history, and Rafael Nadal. The clay court genius who did the impossible and outlasted the Swiss champion on grass in the greatest match ever played at the two thousand eight Wimbledon championships. We still have one more chapter to go in their rivalry atop the sport. But today, we're taking a pause to dive deeper into everything that went into and came out of that incredible match in two thousand eight at the All England Club, and who better to discuss it with than Jon Wertheim, author of strokes of genius. Sixty minutes correspondent and writer for Sports Illustrated. John has spent decades.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis Podcast
"I think I wonder whether actually after Australia when he did come out and say what he thought about the Chris commode situation was kind of admonished by. Novak Djokovic a little bit is to say where you could have come and found me. It was I wonder whether he thinks actually what I should do is tell the people making the decisions rather than talk to the press in them hear about it from that a wonder whether he feels that which I could kind of understand I would pass prefer. I think they just need to get on with tell us what they what they think like has bigger than an internal dispeat-. Now. I think. For me all the way through the last few years showing his unusual ability to actually see tennis from abroad perspective, which very few of the others. Have you know? Athletes are my very nature, very selfish. They live in the bubble. They have to they have to try and compete and folks on the call, and I'm the is being unusual -bility to see big pictures and some of the other players resent him for the things. He's said in defense of equal pay. And his feminist stance. So it wasn't a surprise to me that he he was the first to comment on this. I did reach out to Naboth Djokovic shoes press wing. If you like to say, you know. Is there any way we can discuss? Well, for his don's might be off the record even and didn't have any with that. So I you know, he's gonna come into the pressroom in Madrid. And that will be interesting as well. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what's what are all of our do's on the situation as things down? What's your views on? I think he will stand for election on maybe fourteen figure out to miss, but I feel that the board. He'll sit down by all of the ball all the player count for what will make a stand do actually thing that will happen, but I've been up to mystic before thing. That's the right thing. And I've been wrong before I did not sure the tennis channel Sam by Eva. But again, the same writer applies fascinating incident. That's Jon Wertheim who is somebody who's worked with him for twenty years and Cohen broadcast on tennis. Channel wrote a really interesting piece on the Sports Illustrated website, kind of like an imaginary address to Justin Gimelstob, if he was his boss and effectively said look. I'm not going to stand you down. You're gonna stand yourself down. And he made the point of tennis having had enough of him and the damage that he was doing to the moment. I've heard absolutely nothing to suggest. He is interested in doing that or considering it. I mean, maybe he'll move his position. If people don't saying that they wouldn't vote for him. So the thing that will happen. But I do think that was a fine piece from John, and I think people some people have been criticizing him for not going further. But you've got to understand that they are calling in the sense and hands a little bit tied and he's been up front, John. I mean about the position even with regards to having the same employers. And I think within the constraints with working with he went a long way and put himself on the line..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"So I mean, the fact that fettered out in the middle of tournament in the middle of tournament of this magnitude are meeting for coffee to discuss this tells you something about their level of concern and dissatisfaction, and you know, I mean, I think it's greatly simplified, but it amounts of this, which is better all have done their time and their time admirably capably taking a political position, and they sort of handed over someone else's turn Novak number one player in the world. Obvious choice of Novak now plays the. Very active role on the players council. Novak wanted change and soft fit for new leadership. And I think that's totally. I mean, if you can make the case that's completely consistent with the job. The fact that you're not rubber stamping everything. I think in a way shows how seriously you're taking it. Novak really helped to whip the votes and get the necessary votes up to the players councils all very sort of tedious parliamentary work, but basically, you know, Novak played a large role in what amounted to people are calling in a palace coup. But as I see it aboard and accountable part of their job is to assess and and make determinations about leadership so Novak once change whether he has someone else in mind, or whether he wants to blow up the system, he's talked about unionization. I personally think that's a great idea. I think the current tour structure is really outdated. So I. Union. Asian makes a lot of sense. I think a lot of this to the flaws that'd be tour structure. But I think the issue a lot of people have this break simplification is that Novak really orchestrated this. And then he aid didn't really take ownership of it, and sort of said, well, you know, I I don't wanna talk about it. We're talking tough and geology. I'm not comfortable talking about what happened, and he didn't really take ownership of it. And then there hasn't been a clear alternative. I mean, I think Chris Clarry likened it to your destroying a house, but you're not sure what's going to be there. So it's been it's been a little disconcerting for a lot of people. I get a lot of people thought that the incumbent that crisper mode. The CEO had done an admirable job and deserve to have his contract renewed. Again, if council and a board reach a different conclusion, that's well within their rights. But I think what a lot of people including clearly. Better. But with a lot of people are having issues with is the fact that okay, you got rid of this guy. Well, what's your plan, and that has not been clearly articulated into they wanna completely try and blow up the system and talk to Larry Ellison and try to have a whole separate tour. Is there someone else in mind that they would like to install as a CEO in the same format? And I think everybody I mean, it's sort of has echoes of Brexit where we need change. We're gonna blow this thing up, and we'll deal the details later, I think that's what a lot of people have have taken issue with. So, you know, tennis, tennis politics messy business. It has been since before. I started covering the sport, and it will continue..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"Going on here and through four sets of tennis against four very different opponents in tricky conditions cold. It's windy. These are not sort of tennis conditions right chief in phys. She played and Guinea Collins is an annoying player to play against and feisty and against two very different types of opponents in not great conditions. They only Asaka has conducted ourselves away. The number one player in the world. You would expect her to I think there's been sort of a small sample size. She hasn't been very been number one since she only became number one, which you on the Australian Open, but it's been really impressive. I think she really kinda feels comfortable in being the number one player in the world. So I think tonight, you've segue segue. I think I think tonight again spent his will be really interesting because I think it is going to be a pretty challenging match for her. And we say all this, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. But this is this is the kind of player, and this is the type of match where she really either elevates herself or kind of tells us. Okay, I'm still I'm still figuring this all out and she's proved us wrong again. And again in those situations at the majors in huge matches. But I think in in this particular instance, when she is the defending champion, and she's kind of coming full circle back to where she started her, really. The rapid rise last last spring. I think it's gonna be interesting looking forward to it. Well, I think you're right. And I think that benches playing extraordinarily well, it's one ten matches arro- they are the same age. And I think that's that's really that's really a fruit point that. I think it's a different type of opponent from the previous two. So yeah. Some of this is just about keep doing what you're doing and give a greater sample size from which to judge. But I think we talked about there. But I think you're you're segue was really good and not just because they're a similar age. Fair of is someone who clearly still has to feel more comfortable with his place in the sport. And with everything that comes it's. Yeah, it's going to be annoying. People are gonna call you by a nickname that you wish were used for more formally. But it's like using the the formal you in a foreign language, that's annoying. But maybe that's an annoying that you you can live with. I again, I think. I think that's a good cop because Asaka has really nicely grown into this role. Any other young players this tournament that have impressed you in particular? For the for the Canada portion of today's show. Feeling OJ Alliott see, and I think we're all team seduced by his tennis. He's eighteen years old. He lost seven six third to me. She okay after having beaten sits poss, but I think we're all getting seduced by Felix both his tennis. But also his disposition and his personality. He lost last night. Conditio get eighteen years old imagine honestly, probably should've won any walks to the net. All the neuro chemistry that I often speak about all these chemicals coursing through his body stress hormones, and it's disappointing loss and that he was Ponant. That was a great, Matt. Thank you. And I think that we are trying to sort of perhaps conflicting tennis, and there's a lot to like there with personality and as a ton to like there, but but feel like sort of a breakout star of of this tournament shop off it's still in the draw. And then a player people know less about eighteen year old Bianca and rescue. Who is getting reputation for helping players change their Wikipedia bios. She also is in the fourth round than eighteen years old and just playing terrific tennis and his destined for, you know, the top.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"And I thought that was really mature of her to not only go out and talk about that and say that to her fans, but just to kind of recognize and be in that space, and then go out and still get it done on the court and not let that overwhelm her. I thought that was pretty impressive. I think so. Absolutely. And it's it's it's funny. I think there was some concern that, you know, she's she's a sweet she's a sweet woman, but she's she's she's on the young side, not just chronologically. But I think in terms of that of a modal development. I think he would pop to that she openly admits that she's shy and introverted, and you feel funny by people coming up to her, and she's very all this comes from the point of being lovely. I mean, this is not someone who is not arrogance. This is the opposite of that genuine shyness. And she wins the US open into the straight circumstances that I think there was sort of this fear. We see the sill often that a player wins and major and then they retreat and some of that is just probability in the law of averages. But some of that is that it's a real adjustment to suddenly have to deal with sponsors and media and all of these obligations, and you're next on your back for the opposition. I mean, it's an adjustment. And I think there was a question of. Nyo me ready for this. And exactly you saw post like the one that you're referring to you see these. I mean, remember that in the middle of the US open, Billie. Jean King sort of had to go on Twitter and say, don't worry NIO me. It's okay to be a little strange a little different you on an apology, which which was lovely. But that's something you often see directed at a twenty year old athletes. I only have to wins the US open it. I think there was a bit of a concern. Is you ready for what's we've seen this movie before the history sort of speaks for itself is she ready for what's going to come next, and she has really grown in to the tire of being the number one player, he's really feeling increasingly comfortable and some of that is going out there. And and defending and some of that is you're the top line of the draw sheet. And some of that is recognizing that my Lord there are people that are I'm genuinely their role model and she seen a very short amount of time. He seems increasingly comfortable with this. And she we talked. A few weeks ago about how she made this coaching change, which I think truck some people strange, but I think also spoke to how badly she wants this and how seriously she's considering her role and her present role in in the sport. And she comes here as you say she had lost them of. It's the last time they played a few weeks ago. She's the defending champs the new number one. There's all sorts of stuff going on behind the scenes with their sponsor. I think we should probably not get so used to deny OMI Asaka wearing Adidas, there's a there's new coast. There's a lot.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"So but Jamie, you're in the driver's seat. So steer this wherever you wanna scare this kill that metaphor. Sounds good welcome. And you know, we've been watching on TV. But of course, as always I'm curious to hear what you've experienced and seen and heard being onsite and intermingled with the players. So give us kind of your at this point in the tournament. What's been something that you've heard or seen? That's been the most surprising or most interesting, but let us have it. Well, you know, the rule of tennis in California state penal code is that you cannot talk about Indian Wells without first complementing the setting in the site of the venue in the atmosphere. So we will discharge our duties, but but seriously, this is just tennis for Mendes tennis paradise. Exactly. So little bit aggrandizing, but not by much and I would encourage anyone to come out here. And I also I feel like you've always sort of hear about the high end the Nobu and the expensive seats down low and Larry Olson's worth. Sixty billion dollars. But it really also has this populist touch where you walk around and you see players practice, and you know, I needed to buy a t-shirt for someone and I went in the fee Las store for twenty two dollars. I bought a t shirt, that's not the usual price point at sporting event merchandise. I I wouldn't courage people not not great. He get your lodging and accommodations early, but it's really a special place especial. And I think most importantly that really trickles down to the players. They like coming here. They invest a lot in really doesn't. It's become a cliche, but it really does feel like a fifth slam. And if you like it's really a special place time for a weekend stay for the duration of the tournament. But it really isn't extraordinary sporting event. All right that this is the FA, you know, this is the FCC disclaimer that I had to get out of the way but in all all series. People rave about this place for for good reason as far as tennis has been an interesting tournament, so far I mean in some ways this has been a continuation of tennis teams, which is we all love the big three. They're amazing. They're incredible. We've exhausted the library of supporters describing them and he's thirty seven Roger Federer is back to playing some release. Strong tennis. He won his hundred title beating chore itch and then in the Middle East. He comes here and Hughes looked quite good. So far famed for Nidal newbie Donald singer Donaldson after having loss at straits match to carriers Jovic rained out last night. But let's against for tansel..
"jon wertheim" Discussed on The Tennis.com Podcast
"Everyone John Wartime here this week's you're the FM of Alana on wheels that will talk about a road show that he's been doing for for a number of years and overall just one of the the great overarching presence in sports. This is a fun conversation I think you'll see why Matzos so so popular why he's such an important member of the tennis community always good conversationalist and this time was no exception. He's not in his home of Idaho but he's on the other side of the ocean but we'll talk to him now here's Madison blonder always pleasure was a pleasure speaking Likewise thank you where where are you where we you I am in Paloma the Orca really vein yes it's It Ain Idaho what what brings you there now it's it was an ATP champions tournament last weekend where I played a couple of doubles did not play singles but played a few doubles with monsoon Barahmi and Michael Byrne forces Tim Henman jumped in and so was very nice and I'm here for another three days doing the tennis Kinnock's tennis camps with Michael fourth and and Twelve Scandinavians twelve scandinavians in my orcas sounds like the setup to a joke Yeah Swedish Actually Palma Majorca is quite Swedish a lot of Swedes here and they sweetie show Towel and Swedish owned tennis club where they play Lamentin so yeah it really really good spot did you have anything to do with the Nidal Academy is a totally separate no totally separate yeah he's in over in Monaco which is about forty five minute drive from Panama but it's totally separate yeah we're just here for Moyer Tommy Haas Ferrero Henman me and career played the singles and then they but if you dabbled in between so let's talk tennis what it's me Doc Tober when you look out at the sport right now at this period of time what what are you seeing sort of big big picture where is professional tennis right now wide open think that both men's and women's side there is a little bit of a range going on top obviously obviously Novak Djokovic she's stopped that debate I suppose winning the last three but I still feel like this I mean it's obvious that the rough is getting older for obvious reasons but you could just tell that he's not necessarily slowing down but we might not see Liam Addy's best all the time for physical reasons and I think that opens up a little bit of void and the chance for the younger guys come in obviously right we the US Open I will discount that but the last three or four months he's lost close matches so yeah he's not they're not on their way out but I think that there's as a professional teams right now there's a good chance for young guys to come through unfortunately we haven't seen in the last ten fifteen years but I think it's inevitable that I mean and I think that the younger generation is coming obviously on the women's side it's already happened and on the women's side I'm not sure which of the older there's they're going to stop the young invasion Serena is maybe able to but so I think that's what I see and obviously when that happens you start thinking about what's going to happen the day that said KC and philosophy joke of the game anymore or Serena or Maria Sharapova I think that it's you know it's a good thing it's going to happen and we have I guess you could say survived changes like that before with jumbled quitting and mackinaw not winning much after that so I'm not worried sided and looking for new rivalries really if you're if you're gonNA back one or two horses on the men's side we I mean you said it and it's we say it you don't even think about it when it's been ten or fifteen years since we've had a breakthrough which is just remarkable but if you were going to pick one or two horses to be the next player to win a major not named fettered Adrovic Murray of Rinca who who do you like you know it's so hard to know what's going to happen to the likes of Canaan she corey and meals round H. and I mean I have to throw Griego Dimitrov in there when these guys you know the great for big four done are they going to be able to step up and and suddenly gain that confidence to win majors the young guys GonNa push him out of the way there's a lot of young guys so for me I think the maybe at the moment I think I'm looking at Stefanos Deposits if he's GonNa win a major in the next three or four years but I think he's a pretty safe bet on on heading to the top of the game I think he's got pretty big game the head on his shoulder as he he moves well for big guy great attitude seems to enjoy the fight than Joyce a bit of variation in this game obviously Benesch up of olive but I think is is a safer bet than than most others apart from maybe Karen hats I think he's a full on work source Pew Game Great Attitude Moves unbelievably well and and he's got good technique and most shots and I think he's learned to learn to managed beforehand side so I think that's where I'm looking I think what we found out that and again we find out all the time but it's you have couple of great players winning a lot of majors in one generation generation that comes behind usually suffers when Sampras Agassi wins most of it board mcenery wins Mo and then and now so I mean it's good to have stars in the game but they do sort of delete a lot of potential grand slam winners by being just a little bit better and breaking their confidence down basically nothing against them when you when you say I mean people have always said the same thing boy tennis is really going to be in trouble when when Hurndall Djokovic three Narcan but why wouldn't you take that bet I mean isn't that preferable to have these four reliable unbelievable old generational champions is isn't that preferable to the alternative of of every tournament for grabs and we don't have these di solid stars I mean I guess it is in a way Yes because it brings tennis to the masses and I think people tune in to Roger Federer and obviously by now everyone knows Spanish but I think people tune in that are not necessarily tennis fans 'cause he's obviously transcended the sport but I I don't know I I look at this next the next generation as I I do the generation came after Sampras and then of course Agassi hung in there longer than we thought but you know that was late new Andy Roddick Corn Carlos Ferrero caffine and I mean they all one one slams before budget cetera one slams and and it seemed to me that maybe Sampras and Agassi kind of had to be out of there four federal gain the confidence to to believe he can win slams I know he beat Pete Sampras and Wimbledon early on his career but he really didn't win the earliest a lot of great championship but so I think that's what we're going to see and I think a great style will will come through and the guy is refuses to lose those younger guys I think and like on the women's side I think they will come through so yeah there might be a year or two or three when we're sort of who's GonNa be the rivalry who's GonNa be the next guy and we don't know and then suddenly somebody comes through and do you have to win safety majors in our sport these days to be called the great champion I don't think so I think fifty plus comes through and win four or five or shop on of I think that you know the era we've had now is so so it's shorting Oh it's unbelievable but I mean you have to also look at what's happened I believe with which slower courts slower balls the guy completed thing game and all the different surfaces and nobody because that's basically what he does and he's unbelievable added I think we're seeing tournaments change a little bit of staying open as much faster we have more one handed backhand coming up we thought that was over that's not over they're not they don't have to come from the bigger countries I mean suddenly we have a Greek player we have somebody from Canada I mean it's so I don't think so I think that tennis as in in a very healthy place because of what's veteran Jovovich far doing and have done and I think they've just raised the bar I look at it as tiger woods in golf where hey we need that star but the game is so good engulf right now and I think that tennis will be I mean when you when you're crawling around the slow at home both against the wall and you're looking at Roger Federer's ended back and you're going to go world on a second I'm going to do that but senator rand they're going to get better and stronger mentally at the same level as those three I'm not one hundred percent sure but certainly physically they're going to exceed those guys somehow nations of beautiful thing I e one of the I was just telling just telling a friend this is one of the great treatise covering the sport is when we travel we how you guys have covered Jovovich which I think is sort of one of the great secrets in in plain sight it's sort of this great story that's hidden in front of us what happened to the guy and then this remarkable comeback and I think sometimes conflicts of interest get in the way sometimes relationships get in the way I feel like this is is a story that hasn't been properly told I'm curious given the freedom you guys have on your broadcast how you're handling the return of Novak Djokovic in the mystique serious Sabbatical he went on I think it's more mysterious that we're not talking about what you said or having a dry spell not waiting for five years what had a mysterious time in his career for a couple of years where he where he he got injured or did he or did he not or was it you just not playing well it wasn't able to practice so I think Novak's road is more normal and natural than than we have allowed ourselves graceful roughing it covers it up by by not showing any negative emotion but just going full on and it doesn't matter how good is playing he's just it's just me and him were you and you him and he doesn't WanNa lose to you would Novak he's a little more I think more human in the way that he shows disappointment and satisfaction on a tennis court and that's way more if you look back at what's great champions have been like in the past with maybe the exception of economists but there have been ups and downs and I think federal dollars is just the way they have handled themselves through tough times we don't really talk about them having a being in the slum so Djokovic yourself.
Jon Wertheim mailbag: Wimbledon preview, Nick Kyrgios
"L dot com to hear the full interview with laura luma on the jenin bill page george zimmerman is expected in court this morning to face a stalking charge zimmerman is accused of harassing and sending threatening messages to private investigator darren warren who was working on a documentary about seventeen year old trayvon martin's death deputies say zimmerman called warren fifty five times left thirty six voicemails and texted him sixty seven times in just over a week one message sent to the film's producer allegedly threatened to feed warren to an alligator zimmerman has pleaded not guilty samantha jordan abc news orlando of course zimmerman was acquitted in the shooting death of martin in two thousand twelve and thirty six year old serena williams who's a palm beach gardens resident is getting seeded at wimbledon despite taking a break from tennis to give birth to her daughter did not make an exception and remember she was not seated the us open has already said that they will absolutely take this into account but wimbledon is making an exception.
"jon wertheim" Discussed on Sports Media with Richard Deitsch
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