8 Burst results for "Jon Allen Chao"

"jon allen chao" Discussed on Ghost Town

Ghost Town

05:24 min | 1 year ago

"jon allen chao" Discussed on Ghost Town

"The island of no return. I'm Rebecca leave. I'm Jason Horton. And this is ghost town. This was a journey American missionary. John Chow was warned against taking the island was off limits to out to protect outsiders and the tribe which has no immunity to modern diseases. This morning investigators are trying to figure out who else might have been involved in that fatal mission today. This remote island in the Indian Ocean is the focus of an investigation. Where is American missionary? John Charles Body Jon Allen Show was an American missionary who tried to convert the sentinel lease indigenous on contacted tribe located in North Sentinel Island in the Indian Ocean this one. I'm going to have to preface immediately. Yeah I don't want to make this about Disparaging Religion Okay. Which is a very easy. Go to with this story. Sure and I'm generally not opposed to it you know. I'm not opposed to knocking religion but also I'm not also looking to disrespect people's religious beliefs and how important it is to them and I get that I kind of A. I like that about people's Times there. I like songs about some of the Lord because it's so intense and passionate I do. I mean just like simple exonerated him him I do I do like in. I have my sister got married. I got married in in Rome at a old school church at other Senate Orthodox Jewish wedding that I was in so I have no hang-ups in that sense where I'm looking to make a stand or wherever but I'm just not particularly religious and with this story the Jon Allen Chao. A lot of people Really Kinda go. After the fact that he was very intense religiously in his pursuit as a mission. So I don't want that to be the thing because I read a lot of things and we love conversation and to me. That's almost a moot point. Okay just out just out there. Diplomatic I like that about you. I hope being a sell out the middle of the road fair enough. Yeah I mean. I think that I'm sure there's some element I mean. Religion is a complicated thing. I don't think have probably a lot of like super observant people who listened this podcast. And if you very cool caja do I like yeah. I like the professor like I'll maybe we shift our focus not put so much into that element. It's also. It's very easy for me to do you see. Religion is bad liquid. Religion made you do. I don't want that to be the the issue because there's other issues for me involved and I don't take any pleasure. I told you low-hanging it is low-hanging fruit. And and I told you so complicated sophisticated and we don't ever take low. Hanging fruit never ever true crime yet. Earner Su Chao was from Vancouver pentecostal the coup a pentecost from the coon. There's a lot of maybe I can't speak to his speaking in tongues. Yeah something that happens there. It's it's very intense. I gauge alkaline. Updating a former pentecostal and dated one in Grad school and their services are intense. I'd be interested in. I mean we've talked about. Things are going to a A Satanic Temple Satan or many pentecostal or something just to experience and I've been to many churches I've into usually of the Christian or Jewish faith because those big ones deserve little big box store of of relief apathetically also like a lot of the United States is. It's very. It's a very strong. It's got a very strong culture around it to once you're in it. I think it's history very very interesting. And it's important to interpret history when you talk about society culture it is important. He had help With a group called all nations which has looked into a little bit. They set up missions casts seemingly the Christian. I'm assuming the inside of met some really great Mid Mormon missions relevant San Diego and their sister Joan was like sister Jones an editorial Assistant Jones in like sister Smith and they were super cool. We came over hung out with just moved there. We were like Thanksgiving. It was very cool. Never pushed religion on us as we and it was it was a very cool positive thing and still i. I still the same kind of us and stuff. I was like listen. You're not pushing anything on me. I'm not pushing anything on you. Yeah and we're all going to get along and and those pie.

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"jon allen chao" Discussed on The Non-Prophets

The Non-Prophets

08:51 min | 3 years ago

"jon allen chao" Discussed on The Non-Prophets

"Know? I don't know about this guy. I really don't buy his his claim that he was an accident. And he he's a full grown adult. He has kids. He doesn't have the excuse that Jon Allen had of, you know, being a very young man that was heavily indoctrinated and wide eyed. Ryan boys, an old, man. Yeah. Yeah. Tom he really should have known better than to be putting these people at risk. I feel like he has less excuse. I think that what we need is some sort of intro where I am the devil's advocate. Yeah. Bring it on because. I don't know what his motivations were carries mind. I don't know if if he accidentally stumbled on a mode error, but if there's a tribe of indigenous people that have no contact with the outside world, you'd think somebody would put up some signs or something because if the goal is to protect them from, you know, a trail of tears type incident, then I would say the Brazilian government, and perhaps that tribe, and some others have some responsibility. So I don't know where they're signs saying to turn back. You're gonna kill it that that's fair. I do have some bad news though, on in in terms of U, F U N A. I think. Those are you aren't aware. The new Brazilian president riot. A salerno. He's the real bright. He he gained a lot of support from the evangelical and. And. It was basically he his anti-abortion stance, and he's very anti indigenous tribes people. Well, yeah. And he appointed let's see actually got a quote from him. He said there is no indigenous territory where there aren't minerals gold tin and magnesium in these lands, especially in the Amazon the richest area in the world. I'm not getting into this nonsense of defending land for Indians. Is that so presumably that's translated out of Portuguese Portuguese. Okay. Yes is the word the word translated into Indians. I don't know. There was a indigenous before so I don't know what this is from the guardian. Facebook. Thank said, it's a shame. The Brazilian Calvary. Wasn't as officiant as the Americans who exterminated the Indians. Wow. There's so much to unpack. They're not just the fact that there are still native Americans are their descendants. So the never mind it's not what the word exterminated means. Yeah. Dante thing to object to in that heinous statement. I just think you know, we're. Focus on the jackass is clear bigotry. Oh, yeah. I don't give a crap about these people. So let's not talk about and, you know, no matter where the responsibility rests he has to own some of that responsibility as their current president. Well, he he openly carries the label of the Trump of Brazil. Yeah. The Trump of Brazil. He's like, yes, I am. No, he he's a he's at it. He should build a wall around intention indigenous community extremely worrisome. He's in charge of the lungs of the planet. Yep. And actually. The the F U N A. I he actually appointed an evangelical preacher and congressional aide. Who also co founded at a teeny a controversial group that evangelize is to indigenous communities and is subject to an investigation currently by prosecutors, right inciting racial hatred against indigenous peoples what I'm going to go and make it prediction and say that either nothing happens to this guy legally or he's going to get a pardon. Yeah. I think there's going to be any consequences for how pardons work. I for the most part don't know how the Brazilian government works. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know if they do part pro prosperity because it just arrest the family members everybody who disagrees with me. And then there's no reason for a pardon. I don't know whether that's a specific reference to a specific thing or just a strongman tactics and general. Yeah. Okay. See it's not fun. When when you make a joke, and then other people just sort of stare at you analyze it. It's not as well. Headed opinion about. Yeah. No. So I tend to think a little bit differently about. Because a lot of the people that I know that we know sort of default to here's an indigenous population. They have this land, leave them alone. Right. We should definitely like one. Yeah. Now, if you if someone else has land, you shouldn't take it from them. Right. Right. But there seems to be this underlying value placed on no, preserve this ancient culture in ancient way of life by having people live and in general, right? If there's a foreign nation that refuses aid. We don't force them to take things. However that doesn't mean we don't offer it, right? And if there were people who were subject to again, I don't know how well off the indigenous peoples of Brazil are but under Bo Salerno, they're not doing well. Well that. Yeah. That there's that. But I mean as far as comparing the lifestyles of I don't again, I don't know this. Example, but I've run into this idea of like now there's something pure and beautiful about ancient ways of life that I wholeheartedly disagree with. Yeah. I view it as easily being a version of a naturalistic fallacy. I think the thing that we're trying to value is the individual in liberty and freedom of those groups, and let's not run right over them. I think I'm in the same boat as you, and I was thinking about saying something kinda similar along those lines, which which is one of the reasons why I meant went straight to devil's advocate, and and arguing that, you know, the government, and that tribe bear some responsibility because it's sorry. It's the twenty first century. And if there's a group of people who are completely isolated from everybody else. It's sort of incumbent upon them to make that clear that end don't cross his line. And if they want to shoot anybody who crosses the line after they put up signs, and you know. Yeah. That was those a lot more crystal clear with Jon Allen Chao actually had to go out. To that island, and they were very very secluded to bribe people to break the law to get him. He knew what he writing. Yeah. Whether this person new to earn I definitely agree with that. But the degree to which you're required to put up a billboard versus put up a fence versus just if you're in the market. Chris probably known because there's only so many ways to get to the Amazon forest without trout us, another aspect of this too. Which is okay. So this group is cut off from the rest of society, presumably voluntarily. Yeah. All right. Have people left that drive in gone out in consider? No. So here's my problem with this as right now, there are children being born isolated from modern society. Yeah. And they are not being afforded the opportunity in many of them are not being afforded the opportunity to be free. Yes, right. You can have an isolated community in the United States. But you're still need to vaccinate your kids, and you still need to follow the laws of the United States and have religious freedom in general freedom. Yeah. Yeah. There was actually a separate part of the article that I didn't go ahead and underline because. It wasn't turf is gonna come up but a while back ago fairly recently. There was a provision that allowed indigenous tribes to opt out or up into staying isolated. Not sure how that how you really do that. If they're. That's the thing that will part boss Salerno got rid of that. So they can no longer opt to stay isolated. Yeah. Well, that's the case. Then there may not be because he changed what the law is not even be a potential crime here. Well, I think he.

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"jon allen chao" Discussed on The Non-Prophets

The Non-Prophets

05:20 min | 3 years ago

"jon allen chao" Discussed on The Non-Prophets

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"jon allen chao" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist

Thank God I'm Atheist

04:25 min | 3 years ago

"jon allen chao" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist

"Can we just call them Christian Aries, Chris is Christian airy from Maine who down to Brazil to convert some indigenous folk who have requested to never be contacted anyone from the outside ever. Oh, there's been and Brazil has a very. A very strong policy or has had because this is potentially going to change with their new president. Oh, their new president is a peach. He's a total peach. But but up until this point in time they've there are strong protections for these indigenous groups, well anyway, so this this smacks of this whole like Jon Allen Chao thing. Yeah. Yeah. Except this guy actually walked away alive. Well, that's nice for him. Except for the fact that now he's very likely going to be tried for genocide for genocide genocide. Well, is what? That sounds extreme. But when you think about the fact that what they're trying to do is protect these these uncontactable people from out design hatha Jains, right, right? As much as like, the the the effect that it would have on their culture, right right to to have contact with somebody like this who wants to introduce all these horrible, Christian ideas right into their society. Aside from that they could die. They could all these are usually very small tribes. Yeah. That could literally all die could just you you introduce, you know, you're the one person who had a natural immunity to the thing. Right. And so you're the last person of your tribe, how horrible how absolutely absolutely horrible. So anyway. Let's see what were the important details with this one. So he just he just wandered into the jungle looking for these people. So he was actually working with another with a nearby tribe that was sort of open to him being there. He left that space and got a little lost and found these other folk and then decided well might as well my God, right? If good Lord has presented me with with with an indigenous tribe of you know, good. We need to send missionaries out the just say go after other missionaries have gone and just be like, you know, not everybody believes this shit. This is this is bullshit, right? It's don't believe. We don't have a message for you. Except for the fact that right, don't we? We don't believe this look figure you think you're getting on board with like what the out siders believe trust me. These guys don't know anything more than you know, yours keep keep doing what you're doing working for you for this low at every year doing that's probably bullshit too. But they're sheds bullshit. That's true. Yeah. So I mean, that's really about it. Yeah. This is this is don't do it. Don't. Oh, God these missionaries. Doug who? I mean, it's worked so well throughout the ages. You know, what I mean like there's never been a time when Christians going into a non Christian world has worked out badly for anybody. Right. That's always worked out. Well, hasn't it works out for them? Right. Here's the deal either. They have their great success with this tribe. Right. And so they get all their little field. Good about that. We're at all these people. We will. We we won these savages over to Jesus. Yeah. Ooh. Look at me. Right or they killed and there are martyr. Yeah. Bingo. Great. Right. Like, you can't lose. You literally can't. I mean, you're dead and one scenario. Yeah. But as far as at least as far as far as they're concerned, they're dead. And in a better place died righteously and they're doing the Lord's work. That's like it straight one way ticket. To heaven. Yeah. Jesus himself. Stop you hand job for that one first class seating. Yeah. Whole thing. Right. All right. I'm going to take us..

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"jon allen chao" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist

Thank God I'm Atheist

03:22 min | 3 years ago

"jon allen chao" Discussed on Thank God I'm Atheist

"Yeah. I think anything that shakes up the Christian dominance and gets and gets the conservative Christians, especially those in congress a little flustered and bothered awesome. Yeah. Absolutely awesome. Yeah. Yep. Speaking of fluttering Christians that that ding bat Jon Allen Chao who who decided to go in and missionary against all of the laws of everywhere. Yeah. To bunch of people who are not to be contacted, right? He got himself kilt. Yeah. So that was that was an interesting story. I hope I hope they all learned valuable lesson about that. But they did they didn't say someone else will try sooner or later, and they'll just keep missionary. Ing. Yeah. So there you go. The Lord's word is important apparently. Here's one that. I wanted to we never talked about it. I wouldn't have recognized the name Eugene Peterson died. Here as eighty five years old now, I wouldn't have known that name. But I do know some of his work, which is that he created the message bible. Oh, okay. I think I I made you aware of this this morning. The message bible you read that to me in the past. Oh, okay. I became aware of it. When I back when thank God. I'm atheist was a blog thousand years ago. Yeah. And I had written a blog post about the the Lord's prayer, which we didn't say in Mormonism. So while I was aware of it. I didn't really know anything about it. And I hadn't really read the bible part of it and stuff and I stumbled on it when I was reading the bible the thing that I do sometimes which is weird. Why would I read that trash book? Anyway. The the Lord's prayer that people say is not the Lord's prayer. That is in the bible. No, that's not true. It is true. No. Because in the bible in almost all of the the translations of the bible. It doesn't say. So give us day our daily bread and forgive us, our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us is what I've always heard that is not what's in the bible. What's in the bible? Our debts. Forgive us our debts as we forget, those who are in debt to us or something along those lines. So just so you don't, Dan. Yeah. Longtime listeners of the show will have heard the exact same exchange. Okay. Two of us at some point. We are talked about it. But what I like verbatim. Okay. Fine. Most people haven't gone back and listen to the back catalog. That's fine. We're hall. Okay. What I'm getting to is. The message version. I didn't know that's what it was called of the Lord's again, this that the first time you brought this message is a bible. That's not a translation, it is just this guy's crazed version of everything. So he just took some liberties. And now, I will read you the Lord's prayer from the message. Okay, let's hear which may have also been on the other episode. I don't care. It's too much fun. Not to say..

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Colorado's Morning News with April Zesbaugh and Marty Lenz

00:32 sec | 3 years ago

Nooses found by Mississippi Capitol before Senate runoff

"The best of our ability to to this community in deep red taxes democrat or ROY Gloucester Republican cruise by only three percentage points. Jim Ryan ABC news. Dallas Indian authorities will not retrieve the body of an American suspected dead on north sentinel island for fear of confrontation with the local tribe. Jon Allen Chao is believe. To have been killed by the sentinel. Lease after breaking local laws to visit them earlier in the month. The decision to hold off on getting the body came following several meetings and surveillance trips to document the situation. Local authorities say they have not ruled out the possibility of finding the body at a later date element, Financial Engines brings us this look at money news. Pat's here we are often trading that nice rebound. We saw yesterday. Just a pleasant memory today. Stocks are down this morning. Possibly reflecting news on trade in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, President Trump said it's highly unlikely the US would delay imposing a twenty five percent tariff on Chinese goods. He also suggested imposing a ten percent tariff on iphones, laptops, imported from China right now, the Dow is down one hundred seventy points, and NASDAQ is down thirty eighth ESPN's down twelve home values continue the climate.

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Indian police map area of island where US man was killed

RMWorld Travel Connection with Robert & Mary Carey and Rudy Maxa

00:26 sec | 3 years ago

Indian police map area of island where US man was killed

"House reporting police say they've mapped the area of remote Indian island where tribes people received burying the body of an American adventure and Christian missionary. But Indian authorities continue to struggle to figure out how to recover the body of twenty six year old Jon Allen Chao who was killed by north sentinel islanders, apparently they shot them with arrows and then buried his body on the beach. Chow reportedly went to the island mission to share the love of

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Indian police struggle to recover body of American killed by island tribe

Here & Now

03:42 min | 3 years ago

Indian police struggle to recover body of American killed by island tribe

"Indian authorities are trying to figure out how to recover the body of a young American missionary who was killed on a remote Indian island by a tribe. That has resisted the outside world for thousands of years before he was shot with arrows and buried by the tribe on the beach, Jon Allen Chao wrote that he thought God was protecting him from authorities who try to keep people from visiting north sentinel island joining us now is Jill mcgivering BBC. South Asia editor she's in London. Hi, jill. Hi. So what more do we know about the circumstances surrounding his death? And what was he doing there? Well, the thought is being a little bit cautious about saying very much. You can imagine this is extremely sensitive. But we all hearing a little bit of information from the fishermen who apparently were paid by John to take him out to this area. They say that he'd made several attempts to go out to north sentinel island to make contact with this group, and that this particular instance, he took a canoe with. Him and went from the fishing boat to the canoe and manage to land that in itself is actually geographically a little bit difficult because there's a big coral reef, which is one of the barriers that's being between the outside world on the sentinel. As people the victim and say that almost as soon as he set foot on the send he was attacked with arrows and a page to die. And then one of the issue is now is really verifying. Exactly what happened and also retrieving his body, which is still Ed, but it seems clear from what he wrote before he died that he knew that he was in danger going to this island. Yes, I think he was very aware of the dangers this tribe in particular is known for being the the most uncontactable and the most hostile to contact of all the many tribes in this area. We're talking about a very very remote area there about three hundred islands basically right in the middle of the day of Bengal. And in terms of things like flora and fauna, you're thinking more Burma and Thailand and Indonesia than than really India, but it comes under Indian. Jurisdiction. What more do we know about the people on this island? They're all quite a lot of photographs of them that have emerged from very long distance. But obviously, it's difficult to know a lot about the way of life. There are thought to be between fifty and one hundred and fifty of them left. It's thought that they may have been living on that small island, which is described as being around the size of Manhattan, full something up to fifty five or sixty thousand. Yes. So possibly the oldest on contacted tribe left on the globe the have been attempts in the pasta, contact them. But they have been very hostile to anyone attempting to engage with them and giving a strong sense if they want to be left alone that quite physically small in stunt, you that almost unclothed just went something that looked like a loincloth, and they have very dark skin. So at this point the task to try to get a Jon Allen chows body back that that is not going to be easy. Indian officials. Don't even travel to this island can his body ever. Be recovered. It presents the authorities with a tremendous dilemma, I think partly it's to do with culture in a way it's to do with diplomacy and the respect that they won't want to show the family. The may also be practical issues one of the concerns about maintaining this no contact rule with these with many of the tribes. But this one in particular is to do with the risk to them of having any contact with people from another part of the world because they do not have immunity to thing. This like, you know, the basic common. Flu will come in cold syphilis, all sorts of things that have been in the past instances where the tribes have made some contact and large numbers of them have died, and as I'm saying already with this tribe, which looking about dwindling small number

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