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"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

06:09 min | 4 months ago

"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"You're right. You know, my mom just made me feel good. She told me I was big bone. And although the key is once told me I was fat stuff, and I had a speech impediment where I could put a sentence together. A lot of people know for four years of my life. I've never spoken a classroom. You know, four years of my life. I sit in a corner and was afraid of almost everything. And and ah, and key about Anam. Anthony Logan beat me up. And I think that changed my life on then I had a coach Tom Jordan at the church used come pick me up. You know, he coached my two older brothers, and he has realized that The horse has gotta have something. And he took me out Ah, at the church on Sunday Use to talk to me about no believing in yourself, going out trying your hardest. Don't worry about anyone else and worry about what people say. That sort of helped me to feel good about myself. And I think that just changed a lot. But what people don't know about me, as you're talking about it is I didn't grow up as a little kid watching sports that wanted to be a football player, a track of field In that, like anything like that. I just wanted to do out. Go out and do try my hardest and whatever happens, happens. So, Herschel. How did the transformation happen? Presumably in high school where you become not just a kid who likes sports, not just get to play sports, but really somebody who became a legendary amazing High school athlete. What was what was the transformation? Well, you know, as I got beat up Ah, you know, I was going home on a school bus, you know, crying over way going on crying and I'm never getting home. Turn the TV on and Gilligan Island his own and And I realized enough was enough. Remember this force horse? My nickname is Bodo Divorce that Bowe. Enough is enough. No one has to beat you up again and The day of my life. People hear about the push ups sit ups that I was doing, and this is 100% true. I started doing about 5000 push ups every day. 5000 sit ups every day. I thought, climbing trees doing chin ups, our donor three lamb, and that summer I started to develop my body. I start to lose weight. I start running and with that coach getting me mentally. Repaired. I had nothing to do with sports. Our get mentally prepared. Just be best portion Walker Khun B. To have people not pick on me. Anymore And ah, and the reason I only started playing sports like sort of playing football, you know, my mom used to say I'm not my mom. But my parents make me watch dishes. You know, we have Over seven kids, and we had a time and it was my time to wash dishes, and I thought, Man, it's not start playing football. Maybe there to get me out of Washington dishes because my family always if you start something, you're going to finish it. So I said, Man, I was just start playing football. And that was a big mistake because it didn't get me out of Washington dishes ago. They say the dishes for me, but now I gotta finish football. Well, remember, I got that mindset that if you're going to do anything, you do it well, so I went out and I was a decent football player and you know, and I was a decent student as well. And I started getting scholarships and all that thing. All that and stuff just changed at that time. But I didn't realize I was a great football player ever allowed all the decent You know, I got academic scholarship to go to college. But I really, really, really wanted to go to the military. Ah Mei was cut out to be a Marine. That's what I really wanted to do. Well, I remember you say decent, just just for fun just once just to enlighten people who were in the audience just to tell you how decent Herschel Wass in his high school Johnson County High School, He rushed for 6137 yards and scored 86 touchdowns. Johnson City High School, which broke all the records that he was parade magazine's high school player of the year. But in track, Hershel I mean, one of the things that just astounded me was I don't You may be the only guy that I can think of that was on the track team and both ran the 100 yard dash and threw the shot put those two things rarely go together. But you were able to do that. You ran 109 51 state title and you threw the shot over 54 feet. So obviously everything that Mr Jordan had you doing in terms of exercise? It was definitely paying off. Well, you know, you gotta remember you do what? You can do it the very best you could do it and one of things and I wasn't listening to people cause you know, first thing, people. You're too big Biron. You know, I didn't get it because why do you tell people something You can't do on Lee because you can't do it. I've never heard. If you're a big guy, you can't run fast. I never heard because you may be bigger than I am. You got to be stronger than I am. I don't believe in that. I believe I'm going to try my hardest to go out and really try and that's all I've ever known is you go out and do your best, and that's what I dispatched. I never looked at staff knew. Even today. When people talk about my program. I don't look at stats like guys. There's so much more going on in my life right now. What I worry about something. That? Ah does it relevant to what I'm doing? You know, maybe when I have a lot of grandkids, we could sit around and talk about me when I played football and made my stats. Danno means something but Right now on bike, then all I went out to do is do my hardest. Well, one stat that was certainly worth remembering. Is your your high school valedictorian, which is pretty damned impressive. And end up going to the University of Georgia set the freshmen rushing record in your first year. There is a true freshman. And play three years, finishing the top 10 rushing yard All three win the Heisman Trophy. Um I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question, because I'm sure it wasn't easy. But you're a guy who went to college and it's just the greatness was there. Um Well, let me tell you this before you went to college..

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"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

09:07 min | 4 months ago

"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"11 breaks a tackle for Walker. Over here, Walker 1 16 yards right over our rhyming and running with it. Well, Ray, you and I have enjoyed doing these. Tell us your story features. Really since since sports stop back in March, and we talked to a lot of Hall of Famer is a lot of interesting characters and great names, and I got to tell you, this is one that I'm looking forward to the most Heisman Trophy winner When Maxwell Trophy one of the greatest players in the history of college football hand, an illustrious great pro career. Hey, the man was an Olympic bobsledder. He is now a motivational speaker. He has done it all. Let us welcome to the show. Herschel Walker, Herschel. Thanks for joining us. How you doing today? Oh, I'm doing well, how you guys doing it. Thank you guys for having me on Wlp very well. Well, you know what? We're going to go out of order here because we always like to start with the person's childhood and tell us how were you raised? But since you brought up W Ray and I were remembering this the other day. Um, before you came here We at the station in particular morning host Angelo Cataldi wanted the Eagles to sign Herschel Walker and started a campaign called Hirsch. Excuse me, hunk for Hershel, Do you remember that? I do remember that? You know what was strange about it is ah, Reggie White. God bless him. You know, he had called man and he asked me to come to fill it is her brother They love and he told me about the hunt for her show everyone what was around the stadium and and thank you guys, and I talk about Debbie a peace deal. I said that you guys were one of the best sports station I've I've known and an idea What your people station for sports. Well, thank you for saying that I I just didn't want to wait. When we do these interviews. We try to take guys all the way back to the beginning. So we'll do that with you will take it back to your growing up and I remember One of your first when you were first in Philadelphia after you came and joined the Eagles in 90 to when your first big group interview you were talking about your growing up and you were talking about your youth on. You talked about the fact that when you were a kid grammar school that you were picked on that you're a little overweight. You had a stuttering issue. Ah, and you were terrified of the dark on that you had. I mean, you had to work through a lot of stuff as as a youngster, But, yeah, I guess you had a gym teacher in grammar school that actually kind of encouraged you to Run sprints. Do sit ups do push ups and develop your body and sports And that kind of conditioning actually worked you through some of the issues you had as a little boy. You're right. You know, my mom just made me feel good. She told me I was big bone and all The other key is the one that told me I was fat stuff, and I had a speech impediment where I could put a sentence together. A lot of people know, for four years of my life. I never spoke in a classroom. You know, four years of my life, I sit in a corner and was afraid of almost everything. And and ah, and key about Anam antenna. Logan beat me up. And I think that changed my life on then I had a coach Tom Jordan at the church used. Come pick me up. You know, he coached my two older brothers, and each has realized that Horses gotta have something. And he took me out out the church and they used to talk to me about, you know, believing in yourself going out trying your hardest. Don't worry about anyone else. Don't worry about what people say. That sort of helped me to feel good about myself. And I think that just changed a lot. But what people don't know about me, as you're talking about it is I didn't grow up as a little kid watching sports that wanted to be a football player track of field. In that line. Anything like that. I just wanted to do it. Go out and do try my hardest and whatever happens, happens. So, Herschel. How did the transformation happen? Presumably in high school where you become not just a kid who likes sports, not just get to play sports, but really somebody who became a legendary amazing Ah high school athlete. What was what was the transformation? Well, you know, after I got beat up Ah, you know, I was going home on a school bus, you know, crying over way going on crying and I'm never getting home turn on the TV own and Gilligan's Island is on and And I realized enough was enough. Remember this force horse? My nickname is Bodo Divorce that Bowe. Enough is enough. No one has to beat you up again and The day of my life. People hear about the push ups sit ups and I was doing and this is 100% true. I started doing about 5000 push ups every day. 5000 sit ups every day. I thought common trees doing chin ups are out on a tree limb and that summer started to develop my body. I start to lose weight. I start running and with that coach getting me mentally. Repaired. I had nothing to do with sports. I would get mentally prepared. Just be best portion Walker can be to have people not pick on me. Anymore And ah, and the reason I only started playing sports like sort of playing football, you know, my mom used to say I'm not my mom. But my parents made me watch dishes. You know, we have Seven kids, and we had a time and it was my time to wash dishes and I felt manager start playing football. Maybe that to get me out of Washington dishes because my family always if you start something, you're going to finish it. So I said, Man, I was just start playing football. And that was a big mistake because they didn't get me out of Washington dishes ago. They say the dishes for me, but now I gotta finish football. Well, remember, I got that mind set that if you're going to do anything, you do it well, so I went out and I was a decent football player and you know, and I was a decent student as well. And I started getting scholarships and all that thing. All that and stuff just changed at that time. But I didn't realize I was a great football player ever allowed all the decent You know, I got academic scholarship to go to college. But I really, really, really wanted to go to the military. Ah Mei was cut out to be a Marine. That's where I really wanted to do. Well, I remember you say decent, just just for fun just once just to enlighten people who were in the audience just to tell you how decent Herschel Wass in his high school Johnson County High School, He rushed for 6137 yards and scored 86 touchdowns. Johnson City High School, which broke all the records that he was parade magazine's high school player of the year. But in track, Hershel I mean, one of the things that just astounded me was I don't You may be the only guy that I can think of that was on the track team and both ran the 100 yard dash and threw the shot put those two things rarely go together. But you were able to do that. You ran 109 5 won the state title and you threw the shot over 54 feet. So obviously everything that Mr Jordan had you doing in terms of exercise? It was definitely paying off. Well, you know, you gotta remember you do what? You can do it The very best you can do it and one attains and I wasn't listening to people cause you know first thing, people. You're too big Biron. You know, I didn't get it because why do you tell people something You can't do only because you can't do it. I've never heard. If you're a big guy, you can't run fast. I never heard because you may be bigger than I am. You got to be stronger than I am. I don't believe in that. I believe I'm going to try my hardest to go out and really try and that's all I've ever known is you go out and do your best, and that's what I dispatched. I never looked at staff knew. Even today. When people talk about my program. I don't look at stats like guys. There's so much more going on in my life right now. Why would I worry about something? That? Ah does it relevant to what I'm doing? You know, maybe when I have a lot of Grand Qi is we sit around and talk about me when I played football and made my stats Danno means something but Right now on bike, then all I went out to do is do my hardest. Well, one stat that was certainly worth remembering. Is your your high school valedictorian, which is pretty damned impressive. And end up going to the University of Georgia set the freshmen rushing record in your first year. There is a true freshman. And play three years, finishing the top 10 rushing yard All three win the Heisman Trophy. Um I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question, because I'm sure it wasn't easy. But you're a guy who went to college and it's just the greatness was there. Um Well, let me tell you this before you went to college..

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"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

94WIP Sports Radio

06:07 min | 4 months ago

"johnson city high school" Discussed on 94WIP Sports Radio

"I had nothing to do with sports. Our get mentally prepared. Just be the best Russian walker Khun B. To have people not pick on me. Anymore And ah, and the reason I only started playing sports like sort of playing football, you know, my mom used to say I'm not my mom. But my parents make me watch dishes. You know, we have Over seven kids, and we had a time and it was my time to wash dishes, and I thought, Man, it's not start playing football. Maybe there to get me out of Washington dishes because my family always if you start something, you're going to finish it. So I said, Man, I was just start playing football. And that was a big mistake because they didn't get me out of Washington dishes ago. They say the dishes for me, but now I gotta finish football. Well, remember, I got that mindset that if you're going to do anything, you do it well, so I went out and I was a decent football player and you know, and I was a decent student as well. And I started getting scholarships and all that thing. All that and stuff just changed at that time, But I didn't realize I was a great football player ever allowed all the decent You know, I got academic scholarship to go to college. But I really, really, really wanted to go to the military. Ah Mei was cut out to be a Marine. That's what I really wanted to do. Well, I remember you say decent, just just for fun just once just to enlighten people who were in the audience just to tell you how decent Herschel Wass in his high school Johnson County High School, He rushed for 6137 yards and scored 86 touchdowns. Johnson City High School, which broke all the records that he was parade magazine's high school player of the year. But in track, Hershel I mean, one of the things that just astounded me was I don't You may be the only guy that I can think of that was on the track team and both ran the 100 yard dash and threw the shot. Put that those two things rarely go together. But you were able to do that. You ran 109 51 state title and you threw the shot over 54 feet. So obviously everything that Mr Jordan had you doing in terms of exercise? It was definitely paying off. Well, you know, you gotta remember you do what? You can do it the very best you can do it and one of things and I wasn't listening to people cause you know, First thing people say you're too big Biron. You know, I didn't get it because why do you tell people something You can't do on Lee because you can't do it. I've never heard. If you're a big guy, you can't run fast. I never heard because you may be bigger than I am. You got to be stronger than I am. I don't believe in that. I believe I'm going to try my hardest to go out and really try and that's all I've ever known is you go out and do your best, and that's what I dispatched. I never looked at staff knew. Even today. When people talk about my program. I don't look at stats like guys. There's so much more going on in my life right now. What worried about something? That? Ah does it relevant to what I'm doing? You know, maybe when I have a lot of grandkids, we sit around and talk about me when I played football and made my stats. Dinner means something but Right now on bike, then all I went out to do is do my hardest. Well, one step that was certainly worth remembering. Is your your high school valedictorian, which is pretty damned impressive. And end up going to the University of Georgia set the freshmen rushing record in your first year. There is a true freshman. And play three years, finishing the top 10 rushing yard All three win the Heisman Trophy. Um I'm trying to figure out how to ask this question, because I'm sure it wasn't easy. But you're a guy who went to college and it's just the greatness was there. Um Well, let me tell you this before you went to college. You know, I'm not going to college. I was going to the Marines. I spent time at West Point. And I thought I was cut out to be in the military and I really Wasn't going to college and I couldn't tell my mom and Dad. I don't want to go to college or we're going to the military. So, you know, sign and date for college athletes within favor where And I didn't sign. I didn't say anything. And March came and I didn't see anything of you People read about it, but I didn't sign it Easter Sunday. With the reason why my mom came to me Easter that don't really that Saturday and she said Bo Ah, don't you think it's time for you to decide whether you want to go to college at And before I gave you an ass and told that Mom I wanna go to the military, she's But let me tell you this. If your mind your heart His pure our Lord. Jesus. They really don't matter about your decision. Go gotta make it right for you. And I flipped the corn. And if I'm in a university job corn and putting their names out of a bag You know, my mom is a minister. I have three sisters as ministers and to brother in law doesn't Minister so I'll raise in a church. So that's how I ended up at the University of Georgia about flipping a corn and Ah ah bulletin names out of a bi I had read that story when doing doing my background on the interview, and I had read the story about flipping the coin flipping the coin. First of all, to decide whether you're going to go into service or go to college and then then just the region in the bag and pulling out the The decision of what college you were going to go to, because everybody wanted you. I mean, it's just a supplier. You're you're off the charts and your valedictorian. Your class. You could have written your own ticket. But I read that and I said, Oh, that can't possibly be true, but obviously it is. That's that's an amazing story. And I'm not telling you don't want to do that today. But today I I made flip a corn on some major decision that I made my company. I've done that. And I run a very decent company today. But but I just said, you know, I don't mean in the harm by doing innovate and the one I want to do it and they have the greatest heart and doing it and not believe in it. And sometimes you come into across roles in Almaty. When you come to a crossroads, you gotta take a direction. You may make a mistake, but you can always turn around..

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"johnson city high school" Discussed on The Book Review

The Book Review

13:07 min | 1 year ago

"johnson city high school" Discussed on The Book Review

"Book review is supported by Henry Holt publisher of the new novel by Susan Choi trust exercise, a story about the enduring aftermath of the events of adolescence and about the complexities of consent and coercion among teenagers in adults through a narrative twist trust exercise raises questions about the reliability of memory. And the accuracy of the stories we tell and considers the consequences of our memories and our stories across time trust exercise by Susan Choi is available wherever books are sold. We've only one guest on this week's podcast, but a great one Robert Caro Pulitzer prize winning biographer of Robert Moses and Lyndon Johnson joins us to talk about both of these men his work as a journalist and a bag refer and his new book working to celebrate an honor national poetry month. We'll have a special reading by special poet Alexander alter will give us an update from the literary world. Plus, we'll talk about what we and the wider world are reading this is the book review podcast from the New York Times. I'm Pamela, Paul. Robert Carroll joins us. Now, he is the Pulitzer prize winning author of many books is new book is called working researching interviewing and writing he's also the author of the years of Lyndon. Johnson four volumes of them, thus far and the power broker, Robert Moses and the fall of New York fob, thanks so much for being here. Pleasure to be here. All right. So everyone has been greatly anticipating volume five of the years of Johnson. But instead you have written this other book working researching interviewing writing, why did you decide to do this over since the powerbroker a kept myself out of the book? I don't think the word I appears in there many times as soon as the book came out people started asking me, what was it like ten of you, Robert Moses. And I realized that I should have put in something to tell people what that was like. So for like forty five years, I've been hearing that question and people ask me what it's like to work in presidential libraries. What can you find out from interviews? This isn't advice to anybody. But it's sort of. I said, well, I wanna give people some glimpses into how I work. So I took time out to do this book. Now, I'm back doing this. If valium. I mean, it's an interesting question about interviewing Robert Moses because you had five sessions which seven sessions with him, which was very different from the Johnson biography where he was dead already for several years before you could get started. And I'm curious you write about it a bit in working would it. The difference was like for you writing the book writing a biography of a person who was still alive versus writing a biography of someone who was already gone in one sense. It's great to write about someone who still alive because you get to meeting that Moses didn't talk to me for the first couple of years of the book. Then we had seven interviews soon. As I started asking questions, Pamela the interviews were over, but they will long sessions, and I really got a look at him with Johnson. You felt okay. I came on just too late. He just three years before what was great about him was that he died so young he would have been only sixty seven when I started. He started. Sixty four that everyone was still alive. He had. I think twelve people in Johnson city high school when he was there. They were all there to be reviewed, but you can't make up for not meeting and talking to the person you're writing about you just can't do feel that absence in working on that Johnson Johnson. Yes, you do everything you can't overcome that. You know, you interview people closest to him over and over and over again constantly asking them. What was he like if I was standing next to you? What would I see him doing? So you try to get a feeling of him. Now, we have these telephone transcripts where you hear him talking hundreds and hundreds of hours, you can listen to him talking and see how he deals with people. And how he gets what he wants from people. That's what's always amazing tonight changed the way that you've been doing your research having access to those types. I think it should change the writing of history in general. Like on the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which has been sort of a mystery what really happened there how many attacks were there on our destroyers. You know that then Johnson to launch these launch bombing attacks with the nam. Now you actually hear the communications between Robert McNamara. The secretary of defense cincpac the Admiral at Honolulu and the commander of the fleet. That's had an invalid name you hear this in. What was really going on in real time? The other aspect of your interviewing that I that was so interesting that you write about in this new book working is the delicacy of interviews. And especially when you get to touchy subjects, and they'll you didn't interview Johnson for the book, you did interview lady bird. And I tell the story about how you and when you approached the subject of Johnson's longtime affair with Alice Marsh. Well, when Johnson is in the Pacific during World War Two you're allowed easing or stralia. You're allowed one telephone call. The Senator from Texas has just died Johnson has to decide whether to run again for the house of representatives to run for Senator. I'm going through all the correspondents. And suddenly in the middle of it. There is a telegram from someone sewing Alice. I've never heard of Alice he appears in no book, and it says Lyndon everyone else that happened to me in the White House. Everyone else thinks you should run for the Senate. I think you should run for the house. Please try to call a love Alice. I said who is Alice who is the person that he makes the only one telephone call and who's giving him political advice, which he follows shortly after that. So that's you know, an example of going through the papers by sheer luck. Her sister and best friend show up at the Johnson library. And they asked to see me, and I go down to see them. And they say, you know, we want to tell you about a woman named Alice Marsh, we don't want to portray to some Bimbo. She was really very important in Johnson's life. And they told me the whole story of this Lorn and significant relationship in his life. So how do you then ask lady bird, you know, Pamela? That's the only interview I ever had in my life where I couldn't bring myself to look at the person, I was interviewing Alice was a small town girl at she turned herself into the brilliant, Washington hostess, brilliant, meaning brilliant salons, and she came from a little town called Morlin now, no one would go to mall, and unless they were looking for inflammation on Alicea little town in the middle of nowhere. And I never know. I went up there, and we learned about her. And how remarkable she was. But all of a sudden, we have a mutual. You'll friend who lived in Morlin who calls me in panic and says bird in Texas, everybody cools lady bird bird bird, and always you've been in Molin. So she knows you know, about Assad said well that had to be that doesn't concern me. But her secretary then shows up at my desk and the reading room says MRs Johnson would like to see you out at the ranch this weekend we had been meeting in her office. So we sit down at the dining table. She's at the head of the table. I might right hand. And my stenographer's notebook like like the one you use is is down on my right hand, taking notes and without preamble. She starts to talk about Alice glass, how elegance she was how sophisticated she was how she taught Linden things and everything that she taught him. He followed the rest of his life. You know, he these lawn when she met him. He was this new congressman very awkward with Lorne gang, Leo arms. She said turn them into an asset always wear shirts with French cuffs. And very nice cufflinks. So when people. When they were attention is called to them. It's called in in a in a good way. She told him what kind of necktie to favor Countess Myers tie, but most of all at crucial elements in his life. It was her advice that he followed an in a number of cases, one in particular. It's not exaggerating very much to say she saves his career. This takes a moment to tell. But it's it's interesting his early careers financed by a very fierce us, Texas contractor Herman Brown, Brown and root and Herman was prepared to keep financing his ROY. And in return Johnson was getting used contracts for Brown and root. When all of a sudden, they had a falling out Lyndon. Johnson was getting them with recession to build a dam which they wanted. But Linden wandered a low rent housing project built in Austin in what was very poor Mexican American neighborhood the houses in that neighbor. Hood were owned by Herman Brown. The tenants were paying rent to him. They were very profitable. And he was enraged at Linden wanted to condemn them for his housing project and his chief lobbyist and his chief lawyer talked to and says, you know, Herman was about to turn on land. And when Herman turned on you he never turned back. When Alice here is about this and invites them both down to her greatest state in Virginia. She sits down at her table and says, why don't you just compromise give Herman the dam and in the land? And all of a sudden, everything was okay. So lady bird starts talking. Not only about her elegance. She says the quotes are in the book. She was so sophisticated so beautiful. I remember her in Mexico session of wonderful beautiful dresses and me in well, not so wonderful. And and then she said, you know, Lyndon, basically, Linden always follow. Alice's vice during that whole interview I have to say my head just stay down. And I took notes I couldn't look at her. So that was done then the next week. We went back to ordinary interviews launched into it without without a word of preamble. Yeah. I, you know, I sometimes think I know something about politics. I'm really glad I don't have to write about women. I never understood why she did that. Presumably thinking, how am I going to bring this up? Yes. And then you never I didn't have to she talked. She answered all my questions without a word out of you right in working about the use of silence interviews, and I love you to talk about that for a minute. And then talk about the opposite. Where you have to actually ask uncomfortable, and sometimes aggressive questions, the silence thing is is interesting. If you look in my books where tech notes on into you'd find the letters s you written very big sometimes they mean shut up because I tend to talk too much, and the thing is if you're interviewing somebody silence can be a real weapon for you. Because as a human seems to be a union need to fill a silence. So if you ask the question, if there's a silence, he's not answering it if you can just shut up long enough, an amazingly large percentage of that time, he has the talk, and we'll give you the information. You. You want? You're dealing often with people who are master politicians who presumably also know the sometimes the use of silence serious with someone like Moses where you say, you know, he was a monologue guest, and he talked and he talked it he ever used silence. Didn't have through with Moses with Moses few AS to question. He might answer it for an hour or an hour and a half the thing about it was you didn't want to interrupt when I start an interview I was young reporter. I had one. A couple will of mine I mean, really minor journalistic awards, but when you're young, and you win anything you think, you know, everything I thought I really knew how political power from the minute. Robert Moses started talking to me I knew that I knew nothing compared to him. I mean, it was like I had never even dreamed of this level

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